Overnight Open Thread (12-25-2012) - Yule Edition

Merry Christmas all!  Hope all your Christmas wishes came true.

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Hans Christian Andersen - The Fir Tree

Out in the woods stood a nice little Fir Tree. The place he had was a very good one: the sun shone on him: as to fresh air, there was enough of that, and round him grew many large-sized comrades, pines as well as firs. But the little Fir wanted so very much to be a grown-up tree.

He did not think of the warm sun and of the fresh air; he did not care for the little cottage children that ran about and prattled when they were in the woods looking for wild-strawberries. The children often came with a whole pitcher full of berries, or a long row of them threaded on a straw, and sat down near the young tree and said, "Oh, how pretty he is! What a nice little fir!" But this was what the Tree could not bear to hear.

At the end of a year he had shot up a good deal, and after another year he was another long bit taller; for with fir trees one can always tell by the shoots how many years old they are.

"Oh! Were I but such a high tree as the others are," sighed he. "Then I should be able to spread out my branches, and with the tops to look into the wide world! Then would the birds build nests among my branches: and when there was a breeze, I could bend with as much stateliness as the others!"

Neither the sunbeams, nor the birds, nor the red clouds which morning and evening sailed above him, gave the little Tree any pleasure.

Read the rest here.

David Gregory: Either a Liar or a Deliberate Felon

It's illegal to possess a  high capacity magazine in DC - yes even for the MFM elite.

It may be even worse for Gregory and NBC News.  According to an e-mail received by The Patriots Perspective website, which originally broke the Gregory story, NBC News had inquired whether it was permitted to use the magazine and was told that it was not permitted.  The authenticity of the email has not been verified.

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Merry Christmas Gunnery Sergeant Hartman Style

Operation Christmas Drop

Every year for 60 years the US Air Force has dropped gifts to the people of Micronesia.

This large-scale humanitarian mission had relatively humble beginnings. According to the 36th Wing historian, the exact origin of the operation is unknown, but legend has it that the first supplies were dropped around Christmas in 1952. An aircrew, assigned to the 54th Weather Squadron at Andersen Air Force Base, Guam, flew a WB-29 aircraft over a tiny island and saw the villagers below. The crew then packed a box and sent it down on a parachute used for weather buoys. This became tradition and continued each year until Operation Christmas Drop was officially named and organized in 1958.

Christopher Lee Wishes You a Heavy Metal Christmas

Not a joke - he really is into heavy metal.

The Christmas Day Menu

For the 2nd Battalion Suffolk Regiment in India.

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Comments

1 Have a great evening, everyone!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 25, 2012 09:21 PM (yrFRz)

2
In before everyone but the lurkers.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is not Eddie Willers yet at December 25, 2012 09:24 PM (Md8Uo)

3 Hi all!

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:25 PM (vc40y)

4 Merry Christmas! Hope everyone had a good day.

Posted by: .87c at December 25, 2012 09:25 PM (VeDGH)

5 152 So, I just saw the Avengers.

Why was I not informed about Captain America? Wow. The face, not so much, but the shoulders..


Also, I thought scarlet johansrn was supposed to be wearing leather?

Copied from the last thread.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:25 PM (vc40y)

6
Looks like Elvis is proudly showing off a German Drilling, that is, a side-by-side shotgun, with a single rifle barrel nestled b'neath and b'tween the smoothbores.

Sure would like to know the history of the photo, and the provenance of the drilling!

Merry Christmas, y'all!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 25, 2012 09:26 PM (vvk2F)

7 @Burch: it's not worth showing up before the ladies.

Posted by: .87c at December 25, 2012 09:26 PM (VeDGH)

8 Also! Just discovered that the Christmas cards I made and sent have TWO typos.

And there's no one to blame but myself. Fuck.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:28 PM (vc40y)

9
It's all about getting there fustest with the mostest.

Or something like that.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is not Eddie Willers yet at December 25, 2012 09:29 PM (Md8Uo)

10 What do you suppose is meant by "minerals" alongside the "beer?"

Posted by: tcn at December 25, 2012 09:30 PM (VLG62)

11 I'm guessing the Wicket card picture is there just to skeeve us all out. I know I nearly lost my Christmas dinner.

Posted by: tcn at December 25, 2012 09:31 PM (VLG62)

12 Elizabethe: I know how terrible that must feel. But you do have yourself to blame--you could have used an online editing service, like mine!

Posted by: .87c at December 25, 2012 09:32 PM (VeDGH)

13 Merry Christmas.

God bless.

:-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 25, 2012 09:34 PM (T0lrq)

14 Washington D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier has confirmed that the department is looking into allegations that NBC's David Gregory violated D.C.'s gun laws during a recent taping of 'Meet the Press' in D.C. In a discussion about gun control, host David Gregory brandished a 30-round magazine purportedly for an AR-15 or similar "assault rifle." The discussion took place on December 23, during the broadcast of NBC's Sunday morning political talk show. Washington D.C.’s gun laws, however, state that even possessing such a device is a violation

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 09:35 PM (8sCoq)

15 87 or I could have just asked my hyper attentive to detail husband to proofread the damn thing. I was in such a big hurry to get them out.

Hopefully no one will actually read the card and be distracted by te super cute baby picture.

Online editing? Do you do novels or copy editing or what?

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:36 PM (vc40y)

16 David Gregory.....maybe a felon...surely a putz.

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 09:37 PM (j7iSn)

17 Dude, lurkers, step up and make a comment.

It's slow.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:38 PM (vc40y)

18 boo yah !


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 25, 2012 09:39 PM (jfSqj)

19 I have to make a mincemeat pie tomorrow. Sucks ass.

Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 09:39 PM (4zFn7)

20 Drilling is the slang for Dreiling rifles. I think only Krieghoff still makes them. Kinda cool. I still think the M1 is the best end of the world tool. Kind of like an axe for the European peasant. It'll do it all. Slaughter food or kill enemies.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 09:39 PM (OQpzc)

21 Hello, Horde!

Full of food, candy and hugs and kisses from the granddaughter. Yes, a good day indeed.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 25, 2012 09:40 PM (kD+fa)

22 14 Washington D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier has confirmed that the department is looking into allegations that NBC's David Gregory violated D.C.'s gun laws during a recent taping of 'Meet the Press' in D.C. In a discussion about gun control, host David Gregory brandished a 30-round magazine purportedly for an AR-15 or similar "assault rifle." The discussion took place on December 23, during the broadcast of NBC's Sunday morning political talk show. Washington D.C.’s gun laws, however, state that even possessing such a device is a violation

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 09:35 PM (8sCoq)



Some underling will probably get canned, unless he was the person to acquire it. It would be something if he borrowed it from someone in the MPD. Since it's DC, that's actually possible.

I'm done. Good night, everyone!

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 25, 2012 09:40 PM (yrFRz)

23 Damn Elizabeth those may be the worst cards ever sent to anyone ever. Not proofreading before mailing shows you really don't care and are definitely a bad person. You should prolly begin the self-loathing now and send the JEF a check tommorow to atone.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at December 25, 2012 09:41 PM (m/9JW)

24 I have to make a mincemeat pie tomorrow. Sucks ass.
Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 09:39 PM (4zFn7)

Then Don't, break out the pecans and Dark Kayro syrup and make a pecan pie.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:43 PM (3Y7RV)

25 Not quite a lurker but Merry Christmas Everyone. Ya'll give me humor and perspective. Thanks for these gifts.

Posted by: Palerider at December 25, 2012 09:43 PM (PV+Zw)

26 Not sure what the eye relief is on Elvis's scope but I'd want to bump it forward a tad.


scope against forehead or bridge of the nose is not any fun saw that happen last month

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 25, 2012 09:44 PM (jfSqj)

27 Not quite a lurker but Merry Christmas Everyone. Ya'll give me humor and perspective. Thanks for these gifts.
Posted by: Palerider at December 25, 2012 09:43 PM (PV+Zw)

Merry Christmas to the one whose nic is one of my favorite Clint Eastwood movies.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:44 PM (3Y7RV)

28 24 my husband's birthday request. So mincemeat it is.

Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 09:45 PM (4zFn7)

29 my husband's birthday request. So mincemeat it is.
Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 09:45 PM (4zFn7)


OK then, best get busy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:45 PM (3Y7RV)

30 Merry Christmas!

OK I'll second that.... what are minerals?

Posted by: Long Island at December 25, 2012 09:46 PM (hl8SI)

31 OSP wrote a book? Next thing we'll be hearing AllenG has a blog

Posted by: Palerider at December 25, 2012 09:46 PM (PV+Zw)

32 29 yes sir! Congratulations on the book. Quite an accomplishment.

Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 09:48 PM (4zFn7)

33 OSP wrote a book? Next thing we'll be hearing AllenG has a blog
Posted by: Palerider at December 25, 2012 09:46 PM (PV+Zw)

As a matter of fact I have. I will beat the horse till it's bones turn to powder. I will blow the horn like Joshua bringin down the walls of Jericho.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:48 PM (3Y7RV)

34
I'm frightened to think what that Ewok is going to do to one of those stockings.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at December 25, 2012 09:48 PM (VrVBw)

35
@ #20, Invictus,

Good call on the correct nomenclature. I do think though, that Merkel still turns out the occasional example thereof?

I do know this, a Merkel double in .45-70 Govt., is one of my Holy Grail of bucket list rifles!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 25, 2012 09:48 PM (vvk2F)

36 I tried to ping and tracert the police server the D.C. Gregory e-mail supposedly came from. No response. Probably bogus/faked headers.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 25, 2012 09:49 PM (hcG0U)

37 yes sir! Congratulations on the book. Quite an accomplishment.
Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 09:48 PM (4zFn7)


Only if it doesn't suck. Otherwise it's a monkey beating on a keyboard.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:49 PM (3Y7RV)

38 David Gregory isn't a newsman or a journalist, he's an actor.

Posted by: Spottswoode at December 25, 2012 09:49 PM (8/bPb)

39 Merry Christmas!

Mineral water?

Posted by: Grover's at December 25, 2012 09:50 PM (9aKQB)

40 Karmic justice.

http://tinyurl.com/cxmxkuf

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 25, 2012 09:50 PM (hcG0U)

41 >OK I'll second that.... what are minerals?



I think it refers to mineral water, sparkling water, something like that

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 09:50 PM (8sCoq)

42 Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at December 25, 2012 09:41 PM (m/9JW)


I knew it. I am a terrible person.

Next thing you'll tell me when I'm 10 minutes late it means I don't respect other people because I think it's ok to waste their time.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:50 PM (vc40y)

43 41 >OK I'll second that.... what are minerals?



I think it refers to mineral water, sparkling water, something like that

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 09:50 PM (8sCoq)

Ever seen the movie "Snatch"? I think it's Brit slang for testicles.

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 09:53 PM (j7iSn)

44 I like NCIS, but NCIS LA is as bad as NCIS is good.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:53 PM (3Y7RV)

45 The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one. I see my work here is done, and very gratifying I might add.

Posted by: wierdflunkyonatablet at December 25, 2012 09:54 PM (m/9JW)

46

Davis Gregory, waving an "illegal" assault rifle magazine, on TV, in Washington DC ...

... the best Christmas present I could wish for ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 25, 2012 09:54 PM (VBu2v)

47 At my cousin's insistence, we watched "The Woman in Black," starring Harry Potter Daniel Radcliffe.

Conclusion: the anime Ghost Hunt did it first and did it better, especially in keeping all the necessary plot points necessary to understand the plot (and the final denouement). *throws up hands* Also, Harry Daniel looked like he didn't eat for the entire filming of the movie - I guess that's sort of the hollow look they were looking for, but I just wanted to stuff some food in him.


And Merry Christmas evening to the horde!

Posted by: Where's my prezzy at December 25, 2012 09:54 PM (i7uP7)

48 It's exceedingly difficult to single out the most sickening media asshole on TV these days.

But in terms of over the top, unctuous and overbearing smart-alecs, Monkey Mug Gregory is peerless.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 25, 2012 09:54 PM (aZ6ew)

49

Happy Life Day!

Posted by: itchy, malla and lumpy at December 25, 2012 09:55 PM (yBF/9)

50 44 I thought I was the only person who felt that way about NCIS LA. I just can't watch it. Too phony.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 09:55 PM (Ahxbg)

51 I always like minerals with my beer.

Posted by: rickl at December 25, 2012 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

52 But in terms of over the top, unctuous and overbearing smart-alecs, Monkey Mug Gregory is peerless.
Posted by: ontherocks at December 25, 2012 09:54 PM (aZ6ew)

There is just so many. Geraldo is still the #1 Asshat in my book.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:56 PM (3Y7RV)

53 Anyone seen my life coach?


I don't know what the fuck to do now, without instructions.... I know I'll punt


Posted by: Moron #3 at December 25, 2012 09:56 PM (jfSqj)

54 5
152 So, I just saw the Avengers.



Why was I not informed about Captain America? Wow. The face, not so much, but the shoulders..



Posted by: Elizabethe at December 25, 2012 09:25 PM (vc40y)

I wasn't looking that high.

Posted by: Where's my prezzy at December 25, 2012 09:57 PM (i7uP7)

55 What about meeeeeeeee?

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 25, 2012 09:58 PM (9aKQB)

56 Elizebethe. Typo on Christmas card is nuthin. I had 3 typos on my mom's memorial service folder that I didn't notice until after I had them printed out. Had to paste over the year of birth on the front and correct May to Mar. inside and nothing to be done about writing Estes Park when I meant RMNP. As my dad said "I still think we did ok for amateurs"

Posted by: Palerider at December 25, 2012 09:58 PM (PV+Zw)

57 Anyone seen my life coach?


I don't know what the fuck to do now, without instructions.... I know I'll punt


Posted by: Moron #3 at December 25, 2012 09:56 PM (jfSqj)

Yeah, I think he was buying Val-u-rite Cranberrys at a bar with somebody elses money.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:58 PM (3Y7RV)

58 I like both of the NCIS shows. Tonight was one of LA's weaker efforts.
Still had two totally different ladies who are both, in their own way, saamokin'.

Posted by: teej at December 25, 2012 09:59 PM (LKr5H)

59 >>There is just so many. Geraldo is still the #1 Asshat in my book.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:56 PM (3Y7RV)


Agreed, but I had him in the comedy category with Sherpa Swift.Problem is no one told FNC.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 25, 2012 10:00 PM (aZ6ew)

60 I like both of the NCIS shows. Tonight was one of LA's weaker efforts.
Still had two totally different ladies who are both, in their own way, saamokin'.
Posted by: teej at December 25, 2012 09:59 PM (LKr5H)


OK, I'll give them points on the fappage gauge. But when the asshats jump off the building in the end to escape the flaming explosion and are hanging from ropes, WTF? Are those super sonic fireproof ropes? They should have fell to their FKN deaths and ended all our misery.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:02 PM (3Y7RV)

61 Only if it doesn't suck. Otherwise it's a monkey beating on a keyboard.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 09:49 PM (3Y7RV)
Judging from the book description on Amazon's page, it sure doesn't sound like it sucks. I'm eager to read it. If it passes muster, I'll get one for my oldest daughter, too.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:03 PM (Ahxbg)

62 Agreed, but I had him in the comedy category with Sherpa Swift.Problem is no one told FNC.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 25, 2012 10:00 PM (aZ6ew)

OK, if you are using catagories, I'm with ya,

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:03 PM (3Y7RV)

63 http://is.gd/KmUVjs

Careful with the axe Eugene.

I guess the kids thought I needed one of these.

Posted by: sTevo at December 25, 2012 10:03 PM (VMcEw)

64 That menu is actually pretty interesting. Breakfast and Dinner (the midday meal which we call lunch) were the biggest meals. Tea was traditionally served at 4:00 PM if I'm not mistaken, and Supper, the evening meal, was a light meal.

That makes sense. The morning and noon meals were the biggest ones. They were during the day when people were most active. The evening meal, supper, which we call dinner, was lighter since there is less activity at night.

Posted by: rickl at December 25, 2012 10:05 PM (sdi6R)

65 JimSunk New DawnGalveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 25, 2012 09:48 PM (vvk2F)

I'd never dump on a rifle that is so awesome an example of craftmanship. If no humans existed, I'd choose the combo rifle too. Darwin will choose which one of us chose well. All the best.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 10:05 PM (OQpzc)

66 Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:03 PM (Ahxbg)
It's very empowering for a girl. The first twelve or so chapters read like a hillbilly my fair lady, I mean, it's more than that but I fear losing men in the first chapters before it starts rockin.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:05 PM (3Y7RV)

67 63 You know, if you read the name of said axe too fast, you MIGHT think it was something you'd use to split your fireside friend. Kinda like Lizzy Borden.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:06 PM (Ahxbg)

68 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 25, 2012 10:06 PM (JMmQ9)

69 Currently watching White Christmas and will follow it up with A Christmas Carol with George C Scott. I was over at my Sister and Brother In Laws place for a fine meal and booze. I'm now back home with even more boozeFeelin' alright! Merry Christmas morons. I work mids so when work is slow, I log onto the ONT and its usually pretty entertaining!

Later!

Posted by: puddleglum at December 25, 2012 10:07 PM (+0N13)

70 66 Sounds perfect for Child 2 of 3. Probably for 3 of 3, also, if she'd actually sit down and read something that wasn't plastered on her smartphone.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:08 PM (Ahxbg)

71 I certainly hope the 2nd Battalion Suffolk Regiment in India had a nice Christmas in 1934.

Got into politics just a bit today when my lib older brother began with the class warfare and tax the rich talk. He brought up the Great Depression and I said it's been proven that FDR's policies prolonged the Depression. He said our dad (a long decreased Reagan dem) would disagree. Then he brought up "A Christmas Carol" and the workhouses - I said,"I'm quoting actual data (Amity Shole's book about the Depression) and your answer is a 19th century novel?" He got upset and left the room.

I am invited to celebrate New Year's Eve at my BIL's cottage in Northern Wisconsin. He is conservative but has many lib relatives. I ended up screaming "F you" at one of them during the run-up to the Walker recall election. I am debating if I really want to drive two hours on New Years Eve to argue with libs. Dealing with one today was enough.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 25, 2012 10:08 PM (BStAJ)

72 Some underling will probably get canned, unless he was the person to acquire it. It would be something if he borrowed it from someone in the MPD. Since it's DC, that's actually possible. I'm done. Good night, everyone!

Either that, or NBC will suddenly become very interested in any complaints against the DCPD.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 25, 2012 10:10 PM (YphDF)

73 I see that now...fireside friend splitter. Better be careful with that thing.

Posted by: sTevo at December 25, 2012 10:10 PM (VMcEw)

74 Sounds perfect for Child 2 of 3. Probably for 3 of 3, also, if she'd actually sit down and read something that wasn't plastered on her smartphone.
Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:08 PM (Ahxbg)

It's violent and honest. When I say NSF 16, I'm a little old fashion about things, but I mean 16. My wife won't read it because she knows whats real and what isn't. She finds that part of my family very disturbing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:11 PM (3Y7RV)

75 I didn't get what I wanted. :-(

Woke up this morning and SCOAMF was still Preezy.

Posted by: someone out there at December 25, 2012 10:12 PM (iW2D2)

76 T3. Best holiday movie ever! The future has not been written. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves. I wish I could believe that. Next time bring a clue, not a paintball gun! Just remember, be the T-101 when you tell Obama to "talk to the hand" when he tells/asks you to pay for "that". Talk to the hand!

Posted by: and irresolute at December 25, 2012 10:14 PM (DBH1h)

77 My fire went out. You know it is a f'd up world when you can't eve trust fire.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 10:14 PM (OQpzc)

78 Occasional poster mostly lurker decloaking to say I had fun with the family today. Both my nephews got long arms (one rifle one shotgun) and Uncle Helofixer got them goodies for their new weapons(ammo, cleaning kits, and carrying cases) I cant wait to go shooting with them. I hope you all had a great Christmas and had some quality time with your relations.

Posted by: helofixer at December 25, 2012 10:15 PM (BjX+W)

79 I have a feeling 2013 is going to suck balls

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 10:15 PM (8sCoq)

80 This was the best Christmas I've had in years. My kid wasn't a total asshole, my husband actually gave me a gift I lovedthat he actually thought about first and my kid, his girlfriend, her mother and I went to see Jack Reacher which didn't suck. Didn't even have to argue with anyliberal relativesthis year, which is a big plus for me.


I hope everyone's Christmas was special. Now back to work tomorrow.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 25, 2012 10:15 PM (yxBcx)

81 Saw David Gregory in a restaurant in LA over about a month ago. I knew he's tall (6' 4-6") but I was surprised at how skinny he is. Not just the naturally thin build skinny, but the starve yourself diet kind of of skinny. Had a kind of "twink" look to him.

Posted by: Mr Chips at December 25, 2012 10:16 PM (G5FQb)

82 It's violent and honest. When I say NSF 16, I'm a
little old fashion about things, but I mean 16. My wife won't read it
because she knows whats real and what isn't. She finds that part of my
family very disturbing.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:11 PM (3Y7RV)
Oldest is 28, youngest is 25 - I think they'd both like it. Oldest just spent 6 years in the Army Reserve, and she's married to a Marine sergeant.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:17 PM (Ahxbg)

83 Why do they need a petition to get the police to arrest David Gregory? Just watch the video, he is clearly in violation of D.C. law.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 25, 2012 10:19 PM (98AOY)

84 Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:17 PM (Ahxbg)


OK then She'll dig it. My Neighbors, all Marines from Lajeune and one retired combat Corpsaman were awesome at helping me disect what was real and what wasn't. I took great pains to make sure any Military person reading it wouldn't have to say, "Hey, that's bullshit!"

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:20 PM (3Y7RV)

85 I tried to ping and tracert the police server the D.C. Gregory e-mail
supposedly came from. No response. Probably bogus/faked headers.



Possible that the server does not permit response to ping.


Merry Christmas, Morons.

Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 10:20 PM (z9HTb)

86 OK then She'll dig it. My Neighbors, all Marines
from Lajeune and one retired combat Corpsaman were awesome at helping me
disect what was real and what wasn't. I took great pains to make sure
any Military person reading it wouldn't have to say, "Hey, that's
bullshit!"

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:20 PM (3Y7RV)
You live near Camp Lejeune?

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:21 PM (Ahxbg)

87 OSP, you drove stock cars? Cool, we were involved since the mid 90's to last 2007 with stock cars in the Northeast. My kid is working on a late model now at Stafford. Nice bio on your book. I will be purchasing it, no Kindle version yet though, oh well I'll just have to do it the old fashioned way.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 25, 2012 10:21 PM (yxBcx)

88 >Why do they need a petition to get the police to
arrest David Gregory? Just watch the video, he is clearly in violation
of D.C. law.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 25, 2012 10:19 PM (98AOY)


yeah, but he's David Gregory of NBC, his name is on the Protected rolls, and he will come to no harm
what- you thought MPD was gonna bust him, and he'd stand trial? It is to laugh.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 10:22 PM (8sCoq)

89 You live near Camp Lejeune?
Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:21 PM (Ahxbg)

Yep, about halfway between there and wilmington close to the intercoastal.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:22 PM (3Y7RV)

90 Howdy, all!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 25, 2012 10:23 PM (kaalw)

91 81 Saw David Gregory in a restaurant in LA over about a month ago. .....

Hope you didn't puke....or break his ankle and knee....and jaw, femur, tibia, fibula, etc.

Posted by: and irresolute at December 25, 2012 10:24 PM (DBH1h)

92 Yep, about halfway between there and wilmington close to the intercoastal.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:22 PM (3Y7RV)
Well, how 'bout that? I live in Newport, just about thirty miles from Jacksonville. I work at Cherry Point.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:24 PM (Ahxbg)

93 Posted by: Jaimo at December 25, 2012 10:21 PM (yxBcx)

Yeah, It was the most fun I have ever had with my clothes on. UMP late models on dirt. Midwest mostly, Southlake in Indiana, Kankakee at the fairgrounds, LaSalle, Mederiville. My Dad was an Engine builder. I grew up with cars. Can't throw a ball worth a shit though.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:27 PM (3Y7RV)

94 lurker here, checking in.
Merry Christmas!!!

Posted by: RichatUF at December 25, 2012 10:27 PM (ga+7c)

95 We have a lot of NC morons.

Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 10:28 PM (4zFn7)

96 Okay, they fire is merry again. I will control this fire. Oh, yes I will.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 10:28 PM (OQpzc)

97 Posted by: antisocialist at December 25, 2012 10:24 PM (Ahxbg)

Outstanding, I wanted to go to the Airshow this year but one of my kids was sick. Well, maybe we'll have to plan a moron meet-up.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:28 PM (3Y7RV)

98 Howdy cthulhu!

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 10:29 PM (j7iSn)

99 Oops...flash flood watch in effect.

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 10:30 PM (j7iSn)

100 Oops...flash flood watch in effect.
Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 10:30 PM (j7iSn)


Be Safe.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:31 PM (3Y7RV)

101 69 Currently watching White Christmas and will follow it up with ....

Excellent choices!. I don't get even a little Christmassy until the lonely day is over and I have absorbed a few of those great old flicks. Glad I have a year to recover and get mad-dog mean again.

Posted by: and irresolute at December 25, 2012 10:31 PM (DBH1h)

102 we had a white Christmas here in Fat City- current temp is 9F

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 10:32 PM (8sCoq)

103 We have a lot of NC morons.
Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 10:28 PM (4zFn7)

In the words of that dirty Ex Con, "It's a good thing"

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:32 PM (3Y7RV)

104 > Glad I have a year to recover and get mad-dog mean again.

Posted by: and irresolute at December 25, 2012 10:31 PM (DBH1h)

I start tomorrow

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 10:32 PM (8sCoq)

105 Be Safe.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:31 PM (3Y7RV)

I tend to keep to the high ground.

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 10:32 PM (j7iSn)

106 Currently watching White Christmas and will follow it up with ....

Isn't that the one where Bing Crosby dances with Danny-fucking-Kay?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 25, 2012 10:33 PM (YphDF)

107 91: No, the food was too good to puke (at least for me, I can't speak for Gregory) and I was with my mother (she was treating) and my son, so violence was out of the question.

Posted by: Mr Chips at December 25, 2012 10:33 PM (G5FQb)

108 Ever see David Gregory and a piece of shit in the same room?

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 25, 2012 10:35 PM (BVkEs)

109 the collectivists aren't resting

Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at December 25, 2012 10:36 PM (XvrTA)

110 Currently watching White Christmas


hmmm.....rrraaayyyssssiiiss tendencies

Posted by: BignJames at December 25, 2012 10:36 PM (j7iSn)

111 Gather round rons, It's time for Science class. These are both definitions of Minerals. One is Circa 1898. The other is Circa 2005. Can you guess which is which? and why?


A)"A mineral is an element or chemical compound that is normally crystalline and that has been formed as a result of geological processes"


B) "Every distinct chemical compound occurring in inorganic nature, having a definite molecular structure or system of crystallization and well-defined physical properties, constitutes a mineral species"

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:36 PM (3Y7RV)

112 Isn't that the one where Bing Crosby dances with Danny-fucking-Kay?

LMAO, my favorite part of my favorite movie.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:37 PM (3Y7RV)

113 Donna V.,
Everyone in my family made it for Christmas at my dad's and no politics were discussed.
Most of my relatives are conservatives except for a retired union teacher sister in law and a nephew who has always been a low achieving douchebag.

Usually we avoid confrontation and don't get into politics, but for a little over a year now the sister in law has gotten all union asshole on us. Today she didn't bring anything up. So it was great.

The nephew is the type of dolt who makes one dumb decision after another, completely irresponsible, so of course, he's in favor of government programs that help losers at the expense of the taxpayers. My sister, his mother, is fed up with him, but there's really nothing she can do. He throws his money away on crap, then has to buy a car through J B Byrider because his credit is bad. These are the kind of people who elected TFG.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 25, 2012 10:38 PM (jLiVY)

114 the collectivists aren't resting
Posted by: ghostofhallelujah at December 25, 2012 10:36 PM (XvrTA)

Neither am I. I am, however, good with them thinking I am asleep.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 10:39 PM (OQpzc)

115 And again I survived "The Opening"
Two hours to wrap gifts
Two minutes of shredding to open them

Then two minutes of family time till "love you daddy, I'm going back to bed"

Ugggh

Hey all

Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 25, 2012 10:40 PM (aYJgz)

116 then has to buy a car through J B Byrider because his credit is bad. These are the kind of people who elected TFG.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 25, 2012 10:38 PM (jLiVY)

Thank God for JB Byrider hey? Otherwise how would Douchebags and gangbangers get around.

Cereal? He'll find his way, we all do.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:41 PM (3Y7RV)

117 Btw, hey east coasters, you get your present tomorrow

Obama is flying back early, he's all yours

I'm a giver like that

Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 25, 2012 10:41 PM (aYJgz)

118 Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 25, 2012 10:41 PM (aYJgz)

You do know we are Packer fans this week, right?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 10:42 PM (3Y7RV)

119 Currently watching White Christmas and will follow it up with ....


Isn't that the one where Bing Crosby dances with Danny-fucking-Kay?



A very young Brian Dennehy plays the Green Mountains of Vermont.

Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 10:43 PM (z9HTb)

120 107... Posted by: Mr Chips at December 25, 2012 10:33 PM (G5FQb)

... as we forgive those who trespass against us .... thank you for the reminder of civil behavior. My cup runneth over. God bless all here. A safe and prosperous New Year to each and every one. .... talk to the hand!

Posted by: and irresolute at December 25, 2012 10:43 PM (DBH1h)

121 I'm a giver like that
Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 25, 2012 10:41 PM (aYJgz)

So, you are saying there is a chance the plane will go down in the Pacific?

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 10:44 PM (OQpzc)

122 118. I'm trying to stay in denial
Although I'm quite sure peaches will be around soon to remind us

Damn you to hell lovie smith!!!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 25, 2012 10:45 PM (aYJgz)

123 121. It'd be a Christmas miracle!!!

Oh wait...
President Biden

Good lord we're boned

Posted by: Navycopjoe says FU lovie smith at December 25, 2012 10:46 PM (aYJgz)

124 Possible that the server does not permit response to ping.

Turns out the addr Legal Insurrection originally posted was incorrect. It was supposed to be blahblahblah@dc.gov

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 25, 2012 10:51 PM (hcG0U)

125 As I recall from the originating blog, the email to the DC PD had a typo in the address.

I'm taking my eldest nephew (15) out for his first trip to the range tomorrow, weather permitting. Can't wait.

'sup jackwagons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 25, 2012 10:53 PM (c2oll)

126 Merry Christmas to all the 'rons and 'ettes. I hope you all had a great day!

Posted by: Mr. Alu Fods at December 25, 2012 10:54 PM (xOWfm)

127 50
44 I thought I was the only person who felt that way about NCIS LA. I just can't watch it. Too phony.


So bootleg it off TPB rather than buying the DVD's eh?

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 25, 2012 10:55 PM (hcG0U)

128 Santa Claus Came in the Spring -- Benny Goodman and Orchestra


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcYJYIScR1k

Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 10:55 PM (z9HTb)

129 {Merry Christmas all! Hope all your Christmas wishes came true.}


-------------


*squirt*

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at December 25, 2012 10:56 PM (8hBZi)

130 I hope everyone had a great Christmas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:00 PM (bxiXv)

131 We have a lot of NC morons.

Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 10:28 PM (4zFn7)


Yeah, how about that...you'd think some of them could show up to a moron meet-up...

FWIW, I'll be at the unfortunately named air force base for Wings Over Wayne coming up this spring, the Mustang club always has a display there.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 25, 2012 11:00 PM (xa1/W)

132 FWIW, I'll be at the unfortunately named air force base for Wings Over Wayne coming up this spring, the Mustang club always has a display there.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 25, 2012 11:00 PM (xa1/W)

P-51 or Ford?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 11:01 PM (3Y7RV)

133 Breaking: David Gregory holding off DC SWAT Team with his magazine

Devolving.....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 25, 2012 11:02 PM (BVkEs)

134 Tidings of comfort and joy.

Posted by: Bayonets on my Christmas Tree at December 25, 2012 11:03 PM (qR+xF)

135 Breaking news: David Gregory holding of DC SWAT with his cutting wit!

Update: Standoff ends!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:05 PM (bxiXv)

136 Next Meet the Press: David Gregory will say the magazine he displayed is chocolate. And then eat it.

Stay tuned.....

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 25, 2012 11:05 PM (BVkEs)

137 128 Santa Claus Came in the Spring -- Benny Goodman and Orchestrahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcYJYIScR1k
Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 10:55 PM (z9HTb)
Wow.
I didn't even know that Santa Claus came out.
Now, that Easter Bunny, that was no surprise..

Posted by: TexasJew at December 25, 2012 11:05 PM (V0jvX)

138 Well Rons, I hope you all had a wonderful Christmas, Goodnight.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 11:05 PM (3Y7RV)

139 Seen parts of White Christmas airing on AMC recently, so I went and bought the DVD so I could see the whole thing with the wife. Thanks to Mary Poppins Practically Perfect Piercing, all I could notice wasVera Ellen's anorexia. Damn you!!

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 25, 2012 11:06 PM (98AOY)

140 Elizabethe: mostly college-related papers, applications, that sort of thing. I've also edited business letters, solicitations, and ads, and also some work on a book.

Sorry for the delay, Christmas dinner and all. I hope everyone had at least as good a dinner as we had here.

Posted by: .87c at December 25, 2012 11:06 PM (roqgV)

141 Good night, friends in a box

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 25, 2012 11:07 PM (I2LwF)

142 Shouldn't that Ewok be dragging a sack full of hobo heads?

Posted by: PabloD at December 25, 2012 11:08 PM (xfWXD)

143 Slow night up in here...to be expected, I suppose.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 25, 2012 11:12 PM (lJJMb)

144 Valve still bringing the suck with their Christmas sale

Posted by: The Dude at December 25, 2012 11:12 PM (tw6Ar)

145 Guess that trydopeyoufiend in turkey kinda slows everyone down.
Or something...

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 25, 2012 11:13 PM (BVkEs)

146
Santa can bite me. All I wanted was a Carl Gustav with thermobaric rounds and what did I get? I got a watch.

Total letdown. Santa sucks.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 11:13 PM (OQpzc)

147 Merry Christmas, morons, from a lurker.

Christopher Lee is a BAMF. Not too shabby for a 92 y/o.

Posted by: In Exile at December 25, 2012 11:13 PM (wPV9w)

148 83 Why do they need a petition to get the police to arrest David Gregory? Just watch the video, he is clearly in violation of D.C. law.
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 25, 2012 10:19 PM (98AOY)
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Because they're not going to arrest him. He's not a pleb. He's elite.

Don't worry though, if one of we plebs were caught on fil with one they'd certainly lock us up, so go about your business and feel safe.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 25, 2012 11:14 PM (BgIBZ)

149 Hidy-ho, Morons.

My mother just forced me to watch some ridiculous dreck on Lifetime about a shrink (all of 25 years of age) in miniskirts who violates all the ethics codes and several state laws then falls in love with a patient who may or may not really be Santa Claus. Followed by the local nightly news, which didn't tell me anything useful except today's high temperature (which I could have located online in 15 seconds instead of sitting through four teasers and nine minutes of advertising).

I can't believe people do that shit on purpose. What a waste of life (compared to, say, hanging out on the internets talking about booze, amirite?!)

And I may be stuck here, there's a fucking blizzard back home.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 25, 2012 11:15 PM (6Uliu)

150
Because they're not going to arrest him. He's not a pleb. He's elite.

----

Citizens Arrest! Citizens Arrest!

Posted by: Gomer Pyle at December 25, 2012 11:16 PM (BVkEs)

151 methinks minerals are salt tablets, quinine and the like.

didn't somebody mention her family was just eating and pooping all day? sounds about perfect

Posted by: billypaintbrush at December 25, 2012 11:16 PM (wx8cF)

152 142
Shouldn't that Ewok be dragging a sack full of hobo heads?

Posted by: PabloD at December 25, 2012 11:08 PM (xfWXD)

Nope, that Ewok leaves fap juice covered Marco Rubio garbage in the other Ewoks' stockings.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 25, 2012 11:17 PM (Zd/NW)

153 Merry Christmas

I am now into hour 3 of putting the youngest pup's X-Mas Ping Pong Table together.

I should drink...heavily.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 25, 2012 11:17 PM (OWjjx)

154 And David Gregory sucks donkey.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 25, 2012 11:18 PM (OWjjx)

155 Merry Christmas to you, my beloved Hordes.

Hope your day was filled with good cheer and sweet eats.

I myself indulged greatly. Indeed, I'm about to crack open this bottle of cabernet!

Also...I haz a robe! I love my robe. My robe is comfy and warm. What a great robe.

I hope your robe is awesome, too, ONT! And your Christmas. Yes. I meant Christmas.

Posted by: Robert at December 25, 2012 11:20 PM (LUnTP)

156
"Gregory held up what appeared to be a 30-round magazine to ask if it should be banned. The cartridge is illegal in Washington, D.C., "
The cartridge? WTF. Don't they know the difference between the two?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:20 PM (+9AX9)

157
Robert at December 25, 2012 11:20 PM

You can only wear the robe if you don't have any pants on.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:22 PM (+9AX9)

158 Because they're not going to arrest him. He's not a pleb. He's elite.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 25, 2012 11:14 PM (BgIBZ)


They will determine the magazine was a prop or replica. They will "determine" this by asking MSNBC.

I'd love to see Gregory do the perp walk, as well as the person who brought it to him, largely because "journalism" needs a class 5 attitude correction.

They think they're doing God's Work by bringing leftism to the masses and bashing everything else, and they imagine they're above the law because of it.

When Lyin' Sam Donaldson said the country wasn't the TEA Party's, it was "ours," he will explain later he meant all Americans, he actually meant him and people who think like him.

About our only hope against the FSA is the arrogance of their "organizers."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:24 PM (bxiXv)

159 ridiculous dreck on Lifetime about a shrink (all of 25 years of age) in
miniskirts who violates all the ethics codes and several state laws then
falls in love with a patient who may or may not really be Santa Claus



This was not parody?

Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 11:24 PM (z9HTb)

160 yum chocolate meringue pie

Posted by: The Dude at December 25, 2012 11:24 PM (tw6Ar)

161 Vera Ellen died of cancer. I'm not sure about the anexoria stuff though. She looked smokin' in White Christmas though.

Posted by: puddleglum at December 25, 2012 11:25 PM (+0N13)

162 Heard this story from a nuclear engineer for an unnamed utility.
It seems that had it not been for two nuclear power plants in New Jersey, all of New York City would have been dark during Sandy.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 25, 2012 11:26 PM (e8kgV)

163 The fire is now by bitch.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 11:26 PM (OQpzc)

164 You can only wear the robe if you don't have any pants on.
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:22 PM (+9AX9)

Well I should take the pants off, shouldn't I?

Posted by: Robert at December 25, 2012 11:26 PM (LUnTP)

165 There are no pants on the ont.

Posted by: garrett at December 25, 2012 11:27 PM (m9BLI)

166 "Gregory held up what appeared to be a 30-round magazine to ask if it should be banned. The cartridge is illegal in Washington, D.C., "
The cartridge? WTF. Don't they know the difference between the two?



"The cartridge is for the AR-47 machine gun that is favored by mentally ill right wing spree killers. They also use glock machine guns loaded with high capacity clips with hollow point bullets that explode on impact.

Posted by: NBC at December 25, 2012 11:27 PM (+paCV)

167 I was going to post my great uncle's 1918 regimental Christmas card from the 75th Canadian Infantry Battalion but it looks like the anonymous picture hosting sites now want you to sign up for an account first and not just allow you to upload directly anonymously. (And 'image frog' that I had used for this in the past timed out while I was trying to access it.)

Its cover is similar to the one at the link including the regimental ribbon although in dark green, black and red for a "Rifle" regiment rather than in the red of the infantry. The inside is plain however with a list of battle honours on the one side and the Christmas greetings on the other signed in pencil by the Lt. Colonel.

It was sent to my grandmother as his closest next of kin as my great uncle had been KIA on Sept. 30, 1918 during the final 100 Days offensive.
R.I.P.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 25, 2012 11:27 PM (jPVBi)

168 I am greater than the fire.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 11:28 PM (OQpzc)

169 Well I should take the pants off, shouldn't I?

You came here, with pants on? What's wrong with you?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 25, 2012 11:28 PM (xKC/c)

170 I'm in Kentucky. I'm not used to blizzards.

What do I do?

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 25, 2012 11:29 PM (m0h0I)

171 MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Waiting for the blizzard to start crankin up here is southern IN. Should be fun. The generator is on standby and the fridge is full of leftovers. Hubbymayhem is a bit unthrilled but he is a truck driver and grew up in Northern New York state.... he's been there done that hate the shit out of it.

Posted by: MadameMayhem at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM (iRgZG)

172 The cartridge? WTF. Don't they know the difference between the two?
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:20 PM (+9AX9)
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Rhetorical question?

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM (BgIBZ)

173 170 Bourbon.

Posted by: NCKate at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM (4zFn7)

174
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 25, 2012 11:29 PM (m0h0I)

if you are in the hills, go driving

Posted by: The Dude at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tw6Ar)

175 The cartridge? WTF. Don't they know the difference between the two?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:20 PM (+9AX9)


If they knew the difference, that would make them the kind of person who knows that sort of thing.

Identity politics *literally* demands ignorance.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM (bxiXv)

176 "The cartridge is for the AR-47 machine gun that is favored by mentally ill right wing spree killers. They also use glock machine guns loaded with high capacity clips with hollow point bullets that explode on impact.Posted by: NBC at December 25, 2012 11:27 PM (+paCV)What is an AR47? I'm going to be really pissed if there is a 30.05 AR and no one told me.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM (OQpzc)

177 What do I do?
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 25, 2012 11:29 PM (m0h0I)Stay home. Invite in any Jehova's witnesses and make them your sex slaves. Geez, get with the plan.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 11:33 PM (OQpzc)

178
Robert at December 25, 2012 11:26 PM
Please read the membership rule book. Now into the barrel for the next ten comments.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:33 PM (+9AX9)

179 So watched the Muppet Christmas Carol for the first time in over a decade. Damn, that really was as good as I remember. Michael Caine was great. That's how you do a Muppet movie. That insipid piece of shit that they released last year doesn't hold a candle.

And watched A Christmas Story right after. Damn, I've seen that movie at least two hundred times (I might exaggerate a touch) and it never stops being awesome. Always something to enjoy about it. This viewing was all about the performances. Good gravy but the acting is above and beyond the acting in most Oscar winning performances (most of which, it seems, given for being able to cry on cue). No, I didn't watch it on TBS. Opted to catch my bluray copy. THAT'S how you watch a movie!

Posted by: Robert at December 25, 2012 11:33 PM (LUnTP)

180 with hollow point bullets that explode on impact.
Posted by: NBC at December 25, 2012 11:27 PM (+paCV)
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You forgot to mention the armor piercing capability of 9mm hollow "cop killer" points.

Posted by: Not Ready to Unsock at December 25, 2012 11:34 PM (BgIBZ)

181 149
Hidy-ho, Morons.

My mother just forced me to watch some
ridiculous dreck on Lifetime about a shrink (all of 25 years of age) in
miniskirts who violates all the ethics codes and several state laws then
falls in love with a patient who may or may not really be Santa Claus.
Followed by the local nightly news, which didn't tell me anything useful
except today's high temperature (which I could have located online in
15 seconds instead of sitting through four teasers and nine minutes of
advertising).

I can't believe people do that shit on purpose.
What a waste of life (compared to, say, hanging out on the internets
talking about booze, amirite?!)

And I may be stuck here, there's a fucking blizzard back home.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 25, 2012 11:15 PM (6Uliu)

Lifetime is the gold standard of television movie making.
BTW, have you seen "The 12 Disasters of Christmas"?
http://tinyurl.com/cz7s84m

Posted by: Paul Sheoldon, President, SyFy Network at December 25, 2012 11:34 PM (Zd/NW)

182 What's wrong with you?
Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 25, 2012 11:28 PM (xKC/c)

I'm sorry! It's a lack of alci-hol. Fixing that presently.

Posted by: Robert at December 25, 2012 11:35 PM (LUnTP)

183 Just got back from The Hobbit. Gotta agree w/ Ace, 100%.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 25, 2012 11:36 PM (WcgMM)

184 Lessee. So, it's get loaded on bourbon, take a bunch of Jehovah's Witnesses for a drive through the hills and perform the unholiest of acts upon them.

Sort of makes one wish you could have a blizzard every day!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 25, 2012 11:36 PM (m0h0I)

185 This was not parody?
Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 11:24 PM (z9HTb)
Everything on Lifetime is parody.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 25, 2012 11:36 PM (4u2LN)

186 This was not parody?

Lifetime seems so deadly earnest, and it's all so much bullshit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 25, 2012 11:36 PM (6Uliu)

187 >
I'm in Kentucky. I'm not used to blizzards.

What do I do?



lose the pants

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 11:37 PM (8sCoq)

188 If you are Kentucky and you are not used to blizzards, here's what you do. This is exactly how we handle these situations in Virginia: 1) Panic; 2) Go buy all the milk and butter you can possibly find; 3) Abandon your vehicle in the middle of the busiest roadway you can find.

Posted by: Cowboy at December 25, 2012 11:38 PM (WcgMM)

189
I checked out that 2nd Battalion Suffolk Regiment in India. link.

WTF is with the Brits?

DINNER
...
NUTS, FRUIT,
BEER. MINERALS,
CIGARETTES.

Who the hell has MINERALS for dinner?

Anybody have an explanation?

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 25, 2012 11:38 PM (tOkJB)

190 Remember in Iraq when that woman claimed her house or village etc. had been wantonly shot up by the evil Americans and "proved" it by showing the bullets used to do it and they were all unfired, whole cartridges? I recall the MFM believed it at first until brighter average minds pointed out that they weren't expended brass shell casings but were whole, unfired bullets.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 25, 2012 11:38 PM (jPVBi)

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 25, 2012 11:38 PM (tOkJB)

192 Doh. Someone's turn in the butt of malmsey wine!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 25, 2012 11:39 PM (jPVBi)

193 >Who the hell has MINERALS for dinner?



Anybody have an explanation?



we think it has something to do with not wearing pants

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 11:40 PM (8sCoq)

194 http://tinyurl.com/3lezvzd

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:40 PM (+9AX9)

195
My mother just forced me to watch some ridiculous dreck on Lifetime about a shrink (all of 25 years of age) in miniskirts who violates all the ethics codes and several state laws then falls in love with a patient who may or may not really be Santa Claus.


Oh no, not another documentary?



Speaking of improbable characters, on the operative day we watched 2012, which is pure unalloyed crystalline dreckitude of the first order, and features several brilliant black scientists. You know, the kind you run into all the time. The evil characters? If you guessed white conservative guys, you get no points. That was a gimme.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 25, 2012 11:40 PM (4u2LN)

196 Sort of makes one wish you could have a blizzard every day!
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 25, 2012 11:36 PM (m0h0I)

It is a white christmas thing. Snow makes it infinitely easier to hide the bodies. They won't even begin to rot till spring, and you will be long gone by then.

Posted by: Invictus at December 25, 2012 11:41 PM (OQpzc)

197 Mr Anger to the barrel, Mr Anger please report to the barrel.

Posted by: AoSHQ Intercom at December 25, 2012 11:41 PM (Zd/NW)

198
MadameMayhem at December 25, 2012 11:30 PM
You can check the weather at the previous post if you're worried about it.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:42 PM (+9AX9)

199 I'm sorry! It's a lack of alci-hol. Fixing that presently.

Good man.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 25, 2012 11:42 PM (xKC/c)

200 OK, I'm out

and I had so much to say

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 25, 2012 11:43 PM (JMmQ9)

201 @ 188
-- No, no. That's what we do for snow flurries. I'm talking about a by-God blizzard -- where the snow goes sideways and accumulates and everything.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 25, 2012 11:43 PM (m0h0I)

202
Lifetime seems so deadly earnest, and it's all so much bullshit.



I can't figure out why they call it "Lifetime." They should call it the "Helpless but plucky woman being stalked" channel. They would haveheroines tied to train tracks (High. Speed. Rail?)but that would traditionally require a male hero to rescue them, so that's obviously out.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 25, 2012 11:43 PM (4u2LN)

203 Lifetime seems so deadly earnest, and it's all so much bullshit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 25, 2012 11:36 PM (6Uliu)


I rewrote that movie you described in my head so Santa was a Community Organizer who lured the psychiatrist into the Occupy movement and progressively harangued her into a Black Bloc operation, which she belatedly realizes is a terror plot. Paralyzed by fear, she seems to go along until she is opportunely left alone with a timed explosive. She sets the timer and runs, and the explosion destroys the house, killing Santa and the Black Bloc cell.

She turns herself in at a police station nearby and confesses, there, a Jaded detective convinces her to "just shut up and go home," and closes the case.

As a minor sop to the Lifetime audience, before she enters her office and closes the door behind her, she stares wistfully at the camera, giving them a chance to feel all angsty for five seconds or whatever it is they do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:44 PM (bxiXv)

204
giving them a chance to feel all angsty for five seconds or whatever it is they do.




Change batteries?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 25, 2012 11:46 PM (4u2LN)

205 >They would haveheroines tied to train tracks (High. Speed. Rail?)but
that would traditionally require a male hero to rescue them,


And then along came Jones...

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 11:46 PM (8sCoq)

206 First of all, Ed, barrel.

Secondly, my wild guess is that the "minerals" means vitamin and mineral pills. The less likely but possible option is that it means mineral water (which I would guess would just be written "mineral water").

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:47 PM (bxiXv)

207 I'm taking my bag of dark Hershey's Kisses into the barrel with me. And my minerals, too.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 25, 2012 11:47 PM (tOkJB)

208 They should call it the "Helpless but plucky woman being stalked" channel.


Another problem that could be solved with a handgun.


"Did you say something to me?" *exposes butt of revolver in purse*


"Sorry, Ma'am. Have a good night." *scurries away*


Or you could just shoot your TV.

Posted by: fluffy at December 25, 2012 11:47 PM (z9HTb)

209 And there's a fun cat video for Christmas buried in my sock for those that didn't see it the couple of days ago.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 25, 2012 11:47 PM (jPVBi)

210
You can check the weather at the previous post if you're worried about it Posted by: harleycowboy at December 25, 2012 11:42 PM (+9AX9)

Not worried at all. I'm in the 8 to 12 inches of snow range on the map and am looking forward to it. Our locals didn't even bother covering this thing until today when no one was paying attention. I however have been checking it on an alternate source and have been prepping for SNOWMAGGEDON for a couple of days. If it gets as bad as they are saying, the local weather creatures are gonna catch hell for saying "One to three inches of snow are possible".

Posted by: MadameMayhem at December 25, 2012 11:48 PM (iRgZG)

211 Kung Fu Panda!! And Blue Moon!

Posted by: Jmel at December 25, 2012 11:49 PM (9tSXa)

212 Change batteries?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 25, 2012 11:46 PM (4u2LN)


Pretty much all daytime TV, soap operas, and Lifetime shows are nothing more than "emotion porn," a way for someone who is addicted to emotional stimulation to get a constant "fix," as well as develop grotesquely unrealistic expectations of life.

I've seen consumers of such dreck form elaborate and entirely fanciful conspiracy theories about their friends and families based on what they consumed of "emotion porn."

Drugs and alcohol aren't the only destructive addictions or habits people form.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:50 PM (bxiXv)

213 Who the hell has MINERALS for dinner?
>>

Since it's India maybe it's a nice way to refer to Gin and Bitters anti malaria drink. Oh and I love Yorkshire pudding and gravy.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 25, 2012 11:51 PM (wYGx/)

214 If you are Kentucky and you are not used to blizzards, here's what you do. This is exactly how we handle these situations in Virginia: 1) Panic; 2) Go buy all the milk and butter you can possibly find; 3) Abandon your vehicle in the middle of the busiest roadway you can find.
Posted by: Cowboy



LOL!
It's funny because it is true.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 25, 2012 11:51 PM (+paCV)

215 nerdygirl at December 25, 2012 10:38 PM (jLiVY) Yep, nerdygirl, I have half cons and half libs at family get-togetghers. I've given in in the past, but now I think "f you, if you start it, you're going to get it." And they stop - because they have nothing past "I feeeeellllll"

Posted by: Donna V. at December 25, 2012 11:51 PM (BStAJ)

216 >Pretty much all daytime TV, soap operas, and Lifetime shows are nothing
more than "emotion porn," a way for someone who is addicted to emotional
stimulation to get a constant "fix,


the people who worry me are the ones who have to see every variant of 'saw' and 'hostel' and suchlike

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 11:53 PM (8sCoq)

217
I rewrote that movie you described in my head so
Santa was a Community Organizer who lured the psychiatrist into the
Occupy movement and progressively harangued her into a Black Bloc
operation, which she belatedly realizes is a terror plot. Paralyzed by
fear, she seems to go along until she is opportunely left alone with a
timed explosive. She sets the timer and runs, and the explosion destroys
the house, killing Santa and the Black Bloc cell.



She turns herself in at a police station nearby and confesses,
there, a Jaded detective convinces her to "just shut up and go home,"
and closes the case.



As a minor sop to the Lifetime audience, before she enters her
office and closes the door behind her, she stares wistfully at the
camera, giving them a chance to feel all angsty for five seconds or
whatever it is they do.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:44 PM (bxiXv)

Could you send us a treatment of this script?

We would prefer one that has some kind of DNA experiment between a shark and an eagle gone amok.
Also, we need for it to be two plucky women, Debbie Gibson and Tiffany.
Thanks, love ya, mean it,
Shel

Posted by: Paul Sheoldon, President, SyFy Network at December 25, 2012 11:54 PM (Zd/NW)

218 Long time lurker, first time commenter. Merry Christmas to all of you morons! OsP, I'll have to buy your book and get an autograph since we're practically neighbors.

Posted by: Emdoc at December 25, 2012 11:56 PM (0RJ16)

219 These machine gun cartridges aren't the only problem. Some "gun nuts" use a machine called a "reloader" that can fill up these cartridges with shells at home. There are virtually no laws whatsoever to keep these people from loading their clips with armor piercing cop killer hollow point bullets. In addition, there is nothing to stop someone from using depleted uranium in their shells. These bullets are used by the US military to blow up tanks. If a child were to pick up a machine gun loaded with these cartridges, after they accidentally shot themselves in the head, the clip would go through all the walls of all the houses in the neighborhood. Killing children indiscriminately."

Posted by: MSNBC at December 25, 2012 11:58 PM (+paCV)

220
Donna V. at December 25, 2012 11:51 PM
If you'll notice they always ask how you "feel". Not what you think. The next time ask them what they "think". It will confuse them because they don't know how.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 12:00 AM (+9AX9)

221
Eh. Whatever...

Posted by: indifferent ren hoek at December 26, 2012 12:00 AM (yBF/9)

222 Posted by: Jones in CO at December 25, 2012 11:53 PM (8sCoq)

Yep. I liked the first SAW. The next 35 installments are shit.

Never watched Hostel but have seen a bit of the 3rd one and know how the rest must be.

Gore is gore, and not scary at all.

(something tells me i should have read the comments though)

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:00 AM (sqp6o)

223 Nice to meet you Emdoc. Merry Christmas. Nice to have another doc on the blog. The place is lousy with famous authors now that OSP is published too.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:02 AM (+paCV)

224
MSNBC at December 25, 2012 11:58 PM
You left out that the radioactivity would make an area 20 miles in dia. a wasteland.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 12:02 AM (+9AX9)

225 Yep. I liked the first SAW.>>

Squad Automatic Weapon?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:03 AM (wYGx/)

226 We would prefer one that has some kind of DNA experiment between a shark and an eagle gone amok.
Also, we need for it to be two plucky women, Debbie Gibson and Tiffany.
Thanks, love ya, mean it,
Shel

Posted by: Paul Sheoldon, President, SyFy Network at December 25, 2012 11:54 PM (Zd/NW)


Are you paying cash now instead of grocery coupons?

Send Debbie and Tiffany to my house to negotiate in person.

Ciao bene.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:04 AM (bxiXv)

227 Posted by: MSNBC at December 25, 2012 11:58 PM (+paCV)


Dammit! When is the MSM going to use facts about those guns!

Or did you just forget that they're undetectable by metal detectors and could be used to bring down an airliner!!!

Also....bayonet lug!!!

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:04 AM (sqp6o)

228 I've seen consumers of such dreck form elaborate and entirely fanciful conspiracy theories about their friends and families based on what they consumed of "emotion porn."
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 25, 2012 11:50 PM (bxiXv)
But she's trying to destroy me!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 12:05 AM (4u2LN)

229 Some people watch horror movies to figure out the stunts and effects, some do it because they like to be scared, but the people who get a thrill watching suffering are the ones who are going to end up with police tape around their house.

Me? I've seen a few, but it's not my thing. Mainly I've only seen Sci-Fi / Horror crossovers because the Sci-Fi pickings are not always that great.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:06 AM (bxiXv)

230 Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:03 AM (wYGx/)

The movie.

For a SAW, give me the MG-42.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:06 AM (sqp6o)

231 I was given some high capacity fully semiautomatic clip cartridges capable of firing piercing bullets for an assault rifle in the high-powered and super-lethal 5.56 casing as a surprise from a friend for Christmas. They are the HK steel model, as used by Christianist crusading US military members to assault innocent Taliban women and Iraqi journalists. I hope they don't jump out of the safe and commit a rampage. Still, I appreciated the thought.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (lJJMb)

232 >Gore is gore, and not scary at all.



(something tells me i should have read the comments though)



Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:00 AM (sqp6o)


well, I used to work with a woman that LOVED horror and gore exclusively- torture pr0n, slasher flicks, all of itshe was fired for bringing a handgun to work

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (8sCoq)

233 Also....bayonet lug!!!
Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:04 AM (sqp6o)


I used accessory rails to attach four bayonets to a rifle with no bayonet lug, just to see a liberal cry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (bxiXv)

234 Uh oh Jay.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (qEZxt)

235
If you'll notice they always ask how you "feel". Not what you think. The next time ask them what they "think". It will confuse them because they don't know how.

----------------------------



I ask them what it would take to make them reconsider and possibly change their minds.


I've never received a coherent answer yet.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (4u2LN)

236 Re: Elvis picture--

Well, since you are thinking of pudgy "Kings" and guns:

It has occurred to me that if semiautomatics are banned it will actually be an opportunity. Oh, it will be a blatant violation of the Seond Amendment, that I grant you. But it will be an opportunity to do some much needed house-cleaning in society.

You see, the argument for semi-automatic, and especially "assault rifle", bans will go something like this--there is just no *real* need for these sort of things in society. You don't *need* them to hunt, you don't need more than five shots to kill a deer, the people are not going to rise up in rebellion any time soon (true statement), you can defend yoyrself at home with a revolver, etc. etc. --and these may in fact all be hard things to argue against. Semi-autos and assault rifles may be *desired* by many, but they may not be absolutely *necessary* for society to function, and society will not immediately fall apart if they are denied--an argument I have trouble countering. Now, I think "not infringed" is a pretty clear statement and guideline, but politics, the rule of law, and the principle of right only rarely intersect, so I could see the "not really needed" argument winning.

In which case my response would be...Good.

Because, you see, there are some other things we can take a look at once we decide we can use the "desirement versus requirement" argument. Take the First Amendment. You don't really *need* to be able to look at pornography. The Republic will not fall apart if you can't get access to it. It's a desire, not a need, and it does have costs for society. The First Amendment is really about insuring ability to have political speech, but it is pornography, not political speech, that we have decided to make absolutist prohibition statements about the ability of government to regulate. Once we decide to ban the guns, perhaps we can take a look at some of these other non-essential interpertations of the Bill of Rights as well, that reflect things folks want to do that others think it woud be better if they couldn't. I thus suggest we look at the porn if we ban guns.

That is, if we wish to be consistent on this whole desire of the individual versus societal desire for safety and order thing, thus being willing to infringe on the Bill of Rights deal.

Now, it just could be, of course, that, this whole gun ban thing just could all be yet another exercise in the continuing attempt of the left to make everybody believe and behave as they do, via force of government action, with internal consistency be hanged. In which case, such imperium didn't work forever for the Puritans, it didn't work forever for the mainline Protestants, heck, it didn't work forever for the Soviets inside Russia. What makes the Progressives think they are going to keep what they have, much less expand it into an "unconditional surrender" victory that will serve to eliminate functional opposition, and enshrine Progressive values, for all time?


Posted by: T. at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (8+IYC)

237 "The radioactivity left over from these so called uranium cartridges, in addition to making an area 20 miles in diameter a wasteland where no one could ever live again or grow organic aruga, would cause an estimated 200,000 new cases of childhood leukemia; killing an estimated 200,000 large children or 400,000 small ones."

Posted by: ABC at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (+paCV)

238 Also....bayonet lug!!!>>

Worse yet a Barrel Shroud!!11!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:08 AM (wYGx/)

239 nerdygirl, the problem is most of my in-laws are NOt low-achieving libs. They are fairly high up on the food chain. My SIL is a judge - appointed by Doyle, a complete lib - but you can't pull the "you want free sh*t" on her. She makes much more than I do. No she isnt' a member of the free shit army. She's just a major enabler.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 12:08 AM (BStAJ)

240 yeah remember 'plastic guns' that were supposed to be undetectable by metal detectors?

good times

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 26, 2012 12:09 AM (8sCoq)

241 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:06 AM (bxiXv)

When I was in 5th grade I bought a Tom Savini book on how they do the effects. It was pretty awesome.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:09 AM (sqp6o)

242 My bad, the Christmas cheer has hit full frontal.

Posted by: JimboHoffa at December 26, 2012 12:10 AM (qEZxt)

243 To hell with Lifetime. Tiffany and Debbie Gibson are Skinemax material.

Tiffany: http://is.gd/tU3Fpc

Debbie: http://is.gd/Fsc0Os

Click "Show me the good stuff" for the reveal.

(Tiffany wins, BTW.)

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 26, 2012 12:11 AM (m0h0I)

244
"The radioactivity left over from these so called uranium cartridges, in addition to making an area 20 miles in diameter a wasteland where no one could ever live again or grow organic aruga, would cause an estimated 200,000 new cases of childhood leukemia; killing an estimated 200,000 large children or 400,000 small ones."


The half-life of 238U, IIRC, is on the order of 5 x 10^9 years. So if you want significant radioactive emissions, you're gonna have to wait a while.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 12:11 AM (4u2LN)

245
she was fired for bringing a handgun to work.

Hey you never know when a crazed zombie brain eating lunatic will storm the office with a plague infested axe.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 26, 2012 12:12 AM (+9AX9)

246 I used accessory rails to attach four bayonets to a rifle with no bayonet lug, just to see a liberal cry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:07 AM (bxiXv)


I just free-floated my barrel last week and didn't add any of the rail sections to the handguard...of course that's because I didn't have any bayonets on hand.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:13 AM (lJJMb)

247
Hey you never know when a crazed zombie brain eating lunatic will storm the office with a plague infested axe.

--------------------

I hate it when that happens.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 12:13 AM (4u2LN)

248 Me? I've seen a few, but it's not my thing. Mainly I've only seen Sci-Fi / Horror crossovers because the Sci-Fi pickings are not always that great.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:06 AM

Ain't that the truth. There ain't that many sci fi movies that are actually good. I mean thegood/suck ratio.

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2012 12:14 AM (yBF/9)

249 She makes much more than I do. No she isnt' a member of the free shit army. She's just a major enabler.>>

I think being a General instead of a Private in the free shit army still makes you a member.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:15 AM (wYGx/)

250 I used accessory rails to attach four bayonets to a rifle with no bayonet lug, just to see a liberal cry.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith


I like it but If someone showed a picture of that to someone who lived in Chicago you would be guilty of 4 felonies and 5 thought crimes.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:17 AM (+paCV)

251 The half-life of 238U, IIRC, is on the order of 5 x 10^9 years. So if
you want significant radioactive emissions, you're gonna have to wait a
while.>>

So it's kinda like sleeping on a granite counter top bed?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:17 AM (wYGx/)

252 Ain't that the truth. There ain't that many sci fi movies that are actually good. I mean thegood/suck ratio.

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2012 12:14 AM (yBF/9)


The last trend was conceptual sci-fi with spare sets and no real action, and no "bite" other than a failed cleverness, the new trend seems to be huge effects budgets and some post/anti-human thing.

With the occasional lower-budget "action movie in a sci-fi setting" thing thrown in in both cases.

I guess Avengers/Iron Man have been *kind of* an exception.

We need some good epic sci-fi with what sci-fi is good at; massive stakes, surprising novel concepts, and unique perspectives.

I wish us luck with that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:18 AM (bxiXv)

253 I think being a General instead of a Private in the free shit army still makes you a member.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:15 AM (wYGx/)


And like being at the top of any organization, membership has its privileges.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:18 AM (lJJMb)

254
So it's kinda like sleeping on a granite counter top bed?

____________________


Yup. And less than sittingnear a color TV, back when we still had CRTs.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 26, 2012 12:19 AM (4u2LN)

255 And like being at the top of any organization, membership has its privileges.>>

Waitress sandwiches being a big one (and getting away with murder too)

Posted by: Zombie Ted K. at December 26, 2012 12:21 AM (wYGx/)

256 I'm shocked that nobody on this smart military blog has mentioned that Charles Durning passed away at 89. Called the king of the character actors, he was in films such as The Sting (the detective chasing Redford's character), Dog Day Afternoon, The Hindenburg (as Capt. Pruss, with Brian Dehenny as the Hindenburg), North Dallas Forty (the coach), Tootsie (romantically pursuing Dustin Hoffman), etc, etc, etc.

During WWII, Durning landed at Omaha beach, later was wounded and hospitalized, returned to combat and was in the Battle of the Bulge. He was one of the few survivors of a massacre of POW's by the Germans at Malmedy. He was awarded the Silver Star and 3 Purple Hearts. One of the Purple Hearts was for bayonet wounds suffered in hand to hand combat. Durning survived that attack by killing the German soldier with a rock. He spent several years in and out of Army hospitals for both his physical and psychological wounds. Apparently he had recurring nightmares about the war for the rest of his life.

Durning rarely talked about his combat experiences but was a supporter of activities to support veterans. He participated in the National Memorial Day Concert from 2004 on. This link is to his 2007 appearance (please excuse the beginning with Tom Hanks). While Durning was an accomplished actor, he isn't acting in this video:
http://tinyurl.com/cud8evn
I live in LA and know many folks in the entertainment industry, including family members, and I have worked as an extra many times. For the most part actors have always impressed me as frivolus folks. Charles During, more than most, earned the right to be frivolus. RIP PFC Charles Durning.

Posted by: Mr Chips at December 26, 2012 12:22 AM (G5FQb)

257 I think being a General instead of a Private in the free shit army still makes you a member. Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:15 AM (wYGx/)

Oh, I agree. But they think they'll be calling the shots, not following.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 26, 2012 12:23 AM (BStAJ)

258 I think being a General instead of a Private in the free shit army still makes you a member.

Her free shit comes curtesy of the influence that she can peddle in a left-wing fascist state.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 26, 2012 12:23 AM (YphDF)

259 232 My husband's company sent 3000 employees home on Friday because someone was terminated and they decided to pull a gun on the HR chick doing the honors.

Posted by: NCKate at December 26, 2012 12:24 AM (4zFn7)

260
I think I should be moved up one rung on the geek scale. I have watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy so many timesI am beginning to seecamera change flaws. When Gandolf goes in to meet Theoden he is holding his staff upright. Camera angle change : He holds it horizontal. Camera angle change again: it's vertical. Final camera angle change: back to horizontal.

Still love it though. Even though The Hobbit has crappy reviews I will see it in the theater, though not in 3D.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Random Rant at December 26, 2012 12:24 AM (JKNDp)

261 hi all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:25 AM (Q/zAt)

262
Are you paying cash now instead of grocery coupons?



Send Debbie and Tiffany to my house to negotiate in person.



Ciao bene.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:04 AM (bxiXv)

Well what the hell, I just got a promotion because of "Pegasus vs Chimera".
I can offer you 3 months of free Comcast basic cable for that treatment.
Have your people call my people,
ciao,
S.

Posted by: Paul Sheoldon, President, Universal Networks at December 26, 2012 12:25 AM (Zd/NW)

263 Merry Christmas, ChemJeff.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:27 AM (lJJMb)

264 Good Christ, doesn't anyone sleep anymore. I tried, but all the Coke Zero I drank today is keeping me up. You would think the brandy would of negated that effect.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:28 AM (3Y7RV)

265 Since there is are stupid questions...what does it mean when the barrel is 'free float?'. I am assuming the barrel is seperated entirely from the rails/handguard?

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:28 AM (sqp6o)

266 I like it but If someone showed a picture of that to someone who lived in Chicago you would be guilty of 4 felonies and 5 thought crimes.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:17 AM (+paCV)


That's still below average, I'll need to add a cross and a picture of Maggie Thatcher or something.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:28 AM (bxiXv)

267 The last trend was conceptual sci-fi with spare sets and no real action, and no "bite" other than a failed cleverness, the new trend seems to be huge effects budgets and some post/anti-human thing. With the occasional lower-budget "action movie in a sci-fi setting" thing thrown in in both cases. I guess Avengers/Iron Man have been *kind of* an exception. We need some good epic sci-fi with what sci-fi is good at; massive stakes, surprising novel concepts, and unique perspectives. I wish us luck with that.


Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:18 AM

It's been quite a while since there was a decent one. "Pitch Black" comes to mind, but that's over a decade ago and isSF/horror, really.It concerns me that H/wood has either not seen fit to do some classic works, has dropped them into preproduction limbo or totally fucked up the story. "I, Robot" and "Bicentennial Man" and forever fucked now. "Rendezvous with Rama" will never get made and there's a bunch of great novels and short stories that don't seem to tickle hollywood's fancy. I don't count comicbook heroadaptations as SF movies.

Posted by: otho at December 26, 2012 12:29 AM (yBF/9)

268 He holds it horizontal. Camera angle change again: it's vertical. Final camera angle change: back to horizontal.>>

You don't drink (well not enough anyways) do you?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:29 AM (wYGx/)

269 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:28 AM (3Y7RV)

Red Bull and vodka shots coming up!

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:30 AM (sqp6o)

270 merry christmas StPatrick and to everyone

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:30 AM (Q/zAt)

271 David Fucking Gregory. Will not even get a wrist slap. The final proof that there is no more law, there is only power.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Hillary fainted from tight Spanx at December 26, 2012 12:30 AM (Lxw+T)

272 Update on my friend. They released him yesterday without pinpointing the bleed. This morning at 3am I got a call he was back in the hospital. He had another vomiting blood episode. This time though, on Christmas day, they ran a cystoscope down his gullet, found the bleed and clamped it off. He looked a heck of a lot better and stronger than I have seen him for a while. Heck of a Christmas gift huh? Kudos to the doctor and team that did this on Christmas day. If they hadn't found the bleed I didn't expect him to live out the week. This doesn't mean he is out of the woods. He still has advanced hepatitus and the complications that come with it but medication may have the time to help now. He isn't jaundiced yet.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Still feeling the Christmas mood. at December 26, 2012 12:31 AM (JKNDp)

273 Ohio Dan that is good news

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:32 AM (Q/zAt)

274 >
I'm shocked that nobody on this smart military blog has mentioned that Charles Durning passed away at 89.


your outrage is about 14 hours late- we covered it this morning

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 26, 2012 12:32 AM (8sCoq)

275 Since there is are stupid questions...what does it mean when the barrel is 'free float?'.>>

There is no such thing as a "free" floating barrel. Since to get one costs you an extra$500 bucks.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:33 AM (wYGx/)

276 Still love it though. Even though The Hobbit has crappy reviews I will see it in the theater, though not in 3D.

Posted by: Ohio Dan Random Rant at December 26, 2012 12:24 AM (JKNDp)


I think people are being incredibly persnickety. It was a good movie. I had fun. What do people want, a cross between Seven Samurai, The Wages of Fear, and a doctoral thesis?

If you go to the movie with 23 pages of notes from the book, you will be disappointed. You will also not actually be watching a movie.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:33 AM (bxiXv)

277
Morning Chemjeff!

Posted by: Ohio Dan Still feeling the Christmas mood. at December 26, 2012 12:33 AM (JKNDp)

278 265
Since there is are stupid questions...what does it mean when the barrel
is 'free float?'. I am assuming the barrel is seperated entirely from
the rails/handguard?

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:28 AM (sqp6o)


There are very few stupid questions when talking guns - the shit gets arcane very fast. When a barrel is "free-floated", what that means is that the barrel is only secured to its receiver (the part or parts that feed round in), with no contact to other fixed parts, e.g. the stock, or in the case of an AR patterned rifle, the handguard. This tends to aid in accuracy. Your assumption was 100% on the money.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:34 AM (lJJMb)

279 Oh, sure, *now* the blog picks up. I have to desperately sleep a few hours because I have to give someone a ride to the airport at Oh-Dark-WTF not-even-the-buttcrack-of-dawn.

Oh, and Sheldon, *Buddy*, just send the girls. Trust me, they will get a better deal than you will.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:35 AM (bxiXv)

280 OSP you can always try hitting yourself in the head with a hammer, that might work

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:36 AM (Q/zAt)

281 There is no such thing as a "free" floating barrel. Since to get one costs you an extra$500 bucks.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:33 AM (wYGx/)
br]
You either need a new smith, or are pushing some kind of envelope.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:36 AM (lJJMb)

282 Merry Christmas Chemjeff. Have a happy New Year.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:36 AM (+paCV)

283 Red Bull and vodka shots coming up!
Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 12:30 AM (sqp6o)

Thanks?

Whats all this trashing of lifetime? Don't you realize without that channel, the child stars fresh out of multiple rehabs could not find work. I'm thinking missy gold makes less than your average porn star. Isn't that just smart business? I mean who doesn't like stories of teenage prostitutes with gun wielding mothers being chased by rouge ex-cop boyfriends as they slowly die of cancer while being raped in their sleep by a psychotic doctor who has a prescription drug problem and has to elude a handsome alcoholic detective that is going through a painful divorce while missing his cherub like 5 year old who is an autistic concert pianist. I mean WTF, That's entertainment

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:38 AM (3Y7RV)

284 P-51 or Ford?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 25, 2012 11:01 PM (3Y7RV)


Sorry OSP, had to go act like I work here or something. Anyway, Ford not P51 (although Jack Roush has a version of the Ford Mustang that is called a P51).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:38 AM (xa1/W)

285 OSP you can always try hitting yourself in the head with a hammer, that might work
Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:36 AM (Q/zAt)

What are you, shemp now?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:39 AM (3Y7RV)

286 Daybrother you too, hopefully the happy new year part includes at least 20% more booze

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:39 AM (Q/zAt)

287 You either need a new smith, or are pushing some kind of envelope.>>

If I'm not pushing an envelope, what's the point? I have cheap non free floaters that are nail drivers. (and no not a smith)

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:40 AM (wYGx/)

288 nyuck nyuck nyuck

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:40 AM (Q/zAt)

289 nyuck nyuck nyuck
Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:40 AM (Q/zAt)

LOL

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:40 AM (3Y7RV)

290 "Whats all this trashing of lifetime? Don't you realize ...That's entertainment"
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon


We like the way you think. Are you available for a meeting? We're talking series here.

Posted by: NBC at December 26, 2012 12:41 AM (+paCV)

291 nyuck nyuck nyuck

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:40 AM

That's Curly, you knucklehead. *slap* *eye poke*

Posted by: moe at December 26, 2012 12:41 AM (yBF/9)

292 of course, Jack Roush also has P51 Mustangs, the not-Ford kind, so best of both worlds sort of thing.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:43 AM (xa1/W)

293
Oh, and Sheldon, *Buddy*, just send the girls. Trust me, they will get a better deal than you will.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:35 AM (bxiXv)

You my friend drive a hard bargain. We will throw in 3 free months of HBO and Cinemax to sweeten the deal.

Posted by: Paul Sheoldon, President, Universal Networks at December 26, 2012 12:44 AM (Zd/NW)

294 Got Christmas gifts just now.

History books. Very pleased.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 26, 2012 12:45 AM (GPIWm)

295 Howdy, Jefe! Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 12:46 AM (LUnTP)

296 And FTR, I am wearing pants. My employer insists on it, even if I am on my lunch break. I asked.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:46 AM (xa1/W)

297 hola roberto, merry christmas
how goes el dieto

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:46 AM (Q/zAt)

298 GGE bummer

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (Q/zAt)

299 Merry Christmas, ChemJeff!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (kaalw)

300
of course, Jack Roush also has P51 Mustangs, the not-Ford kind, so best of both worlds sort of thing.>>

Just think how fun a Ford Mustang would be with a Merlin V 12 in it. (If you could keep the tires from smoking that is)

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (wYGx/)

301 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 12:18 AM (bxiXv)

Oh don't worry, the Mass Effect movie will be botched in some spectacularly awful fashion:

Warner Bros. developing ‘Mass Effect’ movie

http://tinyurl.com/c935equ


Posted by: Stating the Obvious at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (SOGo4)

302 I'd just like to say fuck Google for them keep on forcing me into the html5 trial for youtube. I don't want to use that shitty codec that won't actually do a full screen mode.

Posted by: buzzion at December 26, 2012 12:48 AM (GULKT)

303 merry christmas cthulhu and to all of your tentacles too

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:48 AM (Q/zAt)

304 Of course, Jack Roush also has P51 Mustangs, the not-Ford kind, so best of both worlds sort of thing.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:43 AM (xa1/W)

When I Skydived I had a drinking buddy who would show up at the DZ sometimes, He had a P-51 Mustang. 35 year old anesthesiologist. Drove an old shitty truck and lived in a cheap apartment but he has a badass airplane.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:48 AM (3Y7RV)

305 actually I'm glad there's going to be a Mass Effect movie, then maybe i can find out what the hype is about

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:48 AM (Q/zAt)

306 GGE bummer


Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (Q/zAt)


I know, right? I even pointed out that I was off the clock, but they say as long as I am on the property I must wear pants. Completely unreasonable.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:49 AM (xa1/W)

307 Merry Christmas cthulhu.

http://tinyurl.com/cxtsn5x

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:49 AM (+paCV)

308 So, CJ -- how went the dinner with Transylvania Velma? What did you end up cooking?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 12:49 AM (kaalw)

309 If I'm not pushing an envelope, what's the point? I have cheap non free floaters that are nail drivers. (and no not a smith)


Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:40 AM (wYGx/)


My original comment re: free-float was in relation to the EBR AR-15, the curse of the American Gun Culture [ominous music]. You can easily float a barrel on those for way less than $500. If you're into the long range game (full disclosure - I'm not), my understanding is that costs go up exponentially to squeeze out every last drop of performance. If I missed your point, feel free to correct me.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:49 AM (lJJMb)

310 Posted by: Jones in CO at December 26, 2012 12:32 AM (8sCoq)

You mean I should read the blog before I post?

Posted by: Mr Chips at December 26, 2012 12:50 AM (G5FQb)

311
Just think how fun a Ford Mustang would be with a Merlin V 12 in it. (If you could keep the tires from smoking that is)


Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (wYGx/)

I would probably bet Roush has already tried to put that engine in a Ford Mustang already.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 26, 2012 12:50 AM (Zd/NW)

312 cthulhu, I ended up making baked ziti, it went over really really *really* well IYKWIM

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:51 AM (Q/zAt)

313 I know, right? I even pointed out that I was off the clock, but they say as long as I am on the property I must wear pants. Completely unreasonable.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:49 AM (xa1/W)


You can do the flasher thing. Cut off some pantlegs and put some elasic about thigh high. Walk around in a sashed trench coat.Then everyone is happy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:51 AM (3Y7RV)

314 The P51 was a bad-assed airplane. That and the F4U are my 2 favorite fighter airplanes of WW2, with the P38 a close follow-up.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:52 AM (xa1/W)

315 GGE, as a christmas gift to yourself, I say you should go pantsless during your lunch break

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:52 AM (Q/zAt)

316 307
Merry Christmas cthulhu.



http://tinyurl.com/cxtsn5x

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:49 AM (+paCV)


I've actually got this one --
http://www.toyvault.com/cthulhu/Santa%20Cthulhu%20-%20Large.jpg

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 12:52 AM (kaalw)

317 You mean I should read the blog before I post?


Posted by: Mr Chips at December 26, 2012 12:50 AM (G5FQb)


Why? No one else does.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:53 AM (xa1/W)

318 I've actually got this one --


LOL. Way cooler version.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 26, 2012 12:54 AM (+paCV)

319 GGE, as a christmas gift to yourself, I say you should go pantsless during your lunch break
Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:52 AM (Q/zAt)

Brilliant, Merry Christmas, the security gaurd here will be escorting you out. Happy unemployed New Year!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:54 AM (3Y7RV)

320 yeah I'm just full of great ideas tonight, how to get yourself fired and a concussion in the same night

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:55 AM (Q/zAt)

321 If I missed your point, feel free to correct me.>>

No correction needed since it appears we are both right. Anybody can free float a barrel but it will cost you if you want it to make a difference.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:55 AM (wYGx/)

322 You can do the flasher thing. Cut off some pantlegs
and put some elasic about thigh high. Walk around in a sashed trench
coat.Then everyone is happy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:51 AM (3Y7RV)


Well, maybe not everybody...

GGE, as a christmas gift to yourself, I say you should go pantsless during your lunch break


Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:52 AM (Q/zAt)


I would, but then they start using these long confusing words like "termination" and I don't think they mean teh Ahnold movies...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:56 AM (xa1/W)

323
299 Goddammit chemjeff we spent all morning trying to figure out how to detect tungsten in gold bars without drilling into them (x-rays and ultrasound) and you were nowhere to be found.

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 12:56 AM (XDC0v)

324 Brilliant, Merry Christmas, the security guard here will be escorting you out. Happy unemployed New Year!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:54 AM (3Y7RV)


Wait...you work here too??? That's exactly what they told me!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:57 AM (xa1/W)

325 Goddammit chemjeff we spent all morning trying to figure out how to detect tungsten in gold bars without drilling into them (x-rays and ultrasound) and you were nowhere to be found.
Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 12:56 AM (XDC0v)

Hey, I was thinking about that today, melt it down. I know, not easy but effective.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:57 AM (3Y7RV)

326 Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 12:55 AM (wYGx/)


So from one enthusiast to another - what envelopes are you pushing? I love to hear what everybody is up to with respect to...well pretty much anything.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:58 AM (lJJMb)

327 My son-in-law made cinnamon raisin cheesecake cupcakes. They are made with awesome.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 12:58 AM (xa1/W)

328 Natalie Merchant singing Because the night on MTV's unplugged is one of sexiest thing I have ever seen.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 12:59 AM (3Y7RV)

329 DAve, sorry about that, I was having a merry christmas instead

hmm how to detect tungsten in gold in a nondestructive manner... if you suspect the tungsten is dispersed uniformly throughout the gold bar, you could use some surface x-ray technique like x-ray photoelectron spectroscopy

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:59 AM (Q/zAt)

330 GGE - a kilt, my good man, is the solution you seek ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (9Qc6B)

331 312
cthulhu, I ended up making baked ziti, it went over really really *really* well IYKWIM


Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 12:51 AM (Q/zAt)


Ah, so it was Transylvania Velma, in the Conservatory, with the baked ziti.....

That's good -- so who's doing dinner next?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (kaalw)

332 what envelopes are you pushing? I love to hear what everybody is up to with respect to...well pretty much anything.


Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:58 AM (lJJMb)


1) my luck

2) taste

3) good sense

4) etc

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (xa1/W)

333 St. patrick,

Thanks for the explaination on 'free float.'

Next 5 minutes I'm elbows deep in Buffalo wings and Hoison winga.

Apologies If I get it on the walls.

Posted by: RWC at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (sqp6o)

334 So from one enthusiast to another - what envelopes are you pushing? I love to hear what everybody is up to with respect to...well pretty much anything.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 12:58 AM (lJJMb)

What? You a cop?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (3Y7RV)

335 if the tungsten is present in a non-trace amount (like, say, 1% or so) then you can measure the density very carefully, and that will tell you

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (Q/zAt)

336 Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (Q/zAt)

I think they have a problem with slugs in the center of the bars.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:01 AM (3Y7RV)

337 cthulhu well I think it is my turn for dinner again, actually, once I get back into town
probably on Thursday or Friday

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:01 AM (Q/zAt)

338 Oh don't worry, the Mass Effect movie will be botched in some spectacularly awful fashion: Warner Bros. developing ‘Mass Effect’ movie http://tinyurl.com/c935equ
Posted by: Stating the Obvious at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (SOGo4)


That goes without saying. Its a video game movie. About the only positive thing you can likely say about it is that with Warner Bros. behind it its not likely to get directed by Uwe Boll.

Posted by: buzzion at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (GULKT)

339 booh yeah ! !


for the 2x time

Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (jfSqj)

340 325 Not sure the tungsten would separate from the gold if it was a low enough percentage. Plus the bars are already certified, assayed and serial numbered they aren't gonna melt 'em down and lose all that. However, Officer Barbury said he would head down to Ft. Knox with his radar gun to analyze the speed of wave propogation through disparate materials. or something like that.

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (XDC0v)

341 GGE - a kilt, my good man, is the solution you seek ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (9Qc6B)


Oddly enough I asked about that as part of the Kilted to Kick Cancer fund drive that was going on in September. I was told that would be fine as long as I wore shorts underneath. Shorts! Philistines!

apparently, since sometimes I have to roll around on the floor while I'm fixing machines they were afraid I might...eh...expose myself...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (xa1/W)

342 And then along came Jones...

I love that song!

The Coasters' version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrGaoSB0Eus

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (9Qc6B)

343 Goddammit chemjeff we spent all morning trying to figure out how to
detect tungsten in gold bars without drilling into them (x-rays and
ultrasound) and you were nowhere to be found.>>

You tried XRF and were not sure? Was it you were worried they only put the tungsten in the inner core and not the whole bar?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (wYGx/)

344 Warner Bros. developing ‘Mass Effect’ movie

Posted by: Stating the Obvious at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (SOGo4)


Fuckity fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

PAUL! Forget about the script, I just want the girls!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 01:03 AM (bxiXv)

345 oh yeah, XRF was what I was thinking of, not XPS

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:04 AM (Q/zAt)

346 apparently, since sometimes I have to roll around on the floor while I'm fixing machines they were afraid I might...eh...expose myself...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 01:02 AM (xa1/W)

Yeah but don't screw with a muztard when they are wearing their gear. I thing you have a lawsuit sir.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:04 AM (3Y7RV)

347 329 Hahahaha

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 01:04 AM (XDC0v)

348 Yeah, not sleep yet. Window of sleep shrinking rapidly. I just want Tiffany and Debbie to help me sleep. Or forget I need sleep.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 01:04 AM (bxiXv)

349 yeah, you could do a speed of sound measurement through the bar, that's actually a fairly clever way to do it, but one issue is that the bar has to be kept at a very steady temperature

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:05 AM (Q/zAt)

350 What? You a cop?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (3Y7RV)


Far from it, OSP. I just find it very cool to hear what little things the long-range and benchrest shooters are discovering. Many of the cartridge offerings we have today came from dedicated amateur ballisticians, after all. Even though I have no intention to get into those particular games, I find the subjects very interesting in a "how things work" sort of way. And yes, I realize you were joking.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:05 AM (lJJMb)

351 I think it is my turn for dinner again, actually, once I get back into town
probably on Thursday or Friday


Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:01 AM (Q/zAt)


Well done! I wish you continued success in the New Year.

Unfortunately lunch break is now over, so once more I must go pretend like I work here or something. Not that I'm putting much effort into it, since I worked last night as well. Oh well.

Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 26, 2012 01:05 AM (xa1/W)

352 XRF didn't work for you DAve?

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:05 AM (Q/zAt)

353 apparently, since sometimes I have to roll around on the floor while I'm fixing machines they were afraid I might...eh...expose myself...

Well GGE clad in kilt,
came to work one evening fair ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:06 AM (9Qc6B)

354 Later GGE, Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:06 AM (3Y7RV)

355 335
if the tungsten is present in a non-trace amount (like, say, 1% or so)
then you can measure the density very carefully, and that will tell you


Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:00 AM (Q/zAt)


This was my first thought as well. Hidden W would reveal itself if one knew the exact volume of a pure gold bar of standard size, assuming the ability to measure the mass and volume of other bars to a very accurate and precise level.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:07 AM (lJJMb)

356 Old Sailor Poet:

B dates as late as 1898: "Every distinct chemical compound occurring in inorganic nature, having
a definite molecular structure or system of crystallization and
well-defined physical properties, constitutes a mineral species"

The Victorian Ere scientists did not believe that anything was created by long-term processes. At that early date, Geologic science hadn't settled on continental drift, or an Earth that was older than 6000 years.

Lord Kelvin had calculated that the maximum burn time for the Sun, using the most efficient chemical processes known, was only 17,000 years, and thus spent most of his career trying to refute any evolutionary or geologic theories that concluded that the Earth was older than that.

To his credit, when he saw the numbers for energy production by Uranium fission, which would allow a body the size of the Sun to burn for at least tens of millions of years, he immediately recanted his earlier views.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:09 AM (wYVte)

357 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:05 AM (lJJMb)

Well, I never discuss my third world dictator starter set on line. However, a short time ago I had the pleasure of shooting a Barret .50. I was seconds from buying it when a voice told me we have better things to spend 10K on. That voice was Mrs. Sailor.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:10 AM (3Y7RV)

358 Well GGE clad in kilt,

came to work one evening fair ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:06 AM (9Qc6B)


Well played.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:10 AM (lJJMb)

359 337
cthulhu well I think it is my turn for dinner again, actually, once I get back into town
probably on Thursday or Friday


Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:01 AM (Q/zAt)


Happy cooking!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 01:10 AM (kaalw)

360 Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:09 AM (wYVte)

And you sir have been officially named teachers pet. Outstanding!

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:11 AM (3Y7RV)

361 well, time for me to go to bed, gotta hit the gym early in the morning tomorrow, burn off all of those holiday calories

good night all
good luck DAve with the tungsten analysis

Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:11 AM (Q/zAt)

362
344 Warner Bros. developing ‘Mass Effect’ movie Posted by: Stating the Obvious at December 26, 2012 12:47 AM (SOGo4) Fuckity fuckity fuck fuck fuck. PAUL! Forget about the script, I just want the girls!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 26, 2012 01:03 AM (bxiXv


Oh God read the article. I bet the writer thinks its Grand Theft Auto in Space.

Posted by: buzzion at December 26, 2012 01:11 AM (GULKT)

363 So from one enthusiast to another - what envelopes are you pushing? I
love to hear what everybody is up to with respect to...well pretty much
anything.>>

Love shooting and the mechanics of guns (pisses me off the people that say you don't need this or that since I see them like art). But I'm old, have bad eyes and not as steady as I used to be so there will be no more envelope shooting. But I still like to keep up and see if I can tweak things cause it's a challenge.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:12 AM (wYGx/)

364 The prolem with XRF was the effective depth and the TYPE of xrays, I guess the type they use for testing industrial welds can't get through something as dense as gold (I have no idea what i just said). I was sitting at the bar at Norm's last night with this smokin' 22-year-old black Food Science major and i asked her about putting lemon juice on apple slices to keep them from turning brown. Like I know what an enzyme is. Sounded cute coming from her though- she said that most commercial fruit is dyed for appearance and ate her steak rare. I haven't had a dinner conversation with a beautiful woman in YEARS. Thanks God!!!

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 01:12 AM (XDC0v)

365 Posted by: chemjeff at December 26, 2012 01:11 AM (Q/zAt)

G'night Chemjeff, Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:12 AM (3Y7RV)

366 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:10 AM (3Y7RV)


The original question was for Buzz, but congrats on getting the starter set!

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:13 AM (lJJMb)

367 Chemjeff: If a good faith bank bar is suspect ( e.i., passed through Chinese hands ), they drill the damned thing, and then re-weigh and re-mark the new post drilling weight on the bar.

The gold scrap gets sold to an assayer.

( or they just do absolutely nothing, and pretend the bar is still good, and hope some sucker buys it from them )

If there is a tungsten block in the center, drilling the bar will reveal it.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:14 AM (wYVte)

368 The original question was for Buzz, but congrats on getting the starter set!
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:13 AM (lJJMb)

Oh, nevermind.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:14 AM (3Y7RV)

369 I could shoot an envelope if it's one of those 8 1/2" x 11" ones and you don't hold it too far away

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 01:15 AM (XDC0v)

370 I ain't holding any envelope that someone is shooting at.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:16 AM (wYVte)

371 I ain't holding any envelope that someone is shooting at.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:16 AM (wYVte)

So I guess an apple on the head is out of the question?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:17 AM (3Y7RV)

372 Just not my head.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:18 AM (wYVte)

373 Heat - gold and tungsten have considerably different thermal expansion coefficients!

A heated gold bar will expand more than one with a big slug of tungsten inside it.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 26, 2012 01:18 AM (hcG0U)

374 That's what hobos are for.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:18 AM (wYVte)

375 Good night, chemjeff

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:19 AM (9Qc6B)

376 That's what hobos are for.
Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:18 AM (wYVte)

Heh.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:20 AM (3Y7RV)

377 That's what hobos are for.

Don't be silly.

hobos are people who live in Hoboken ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 01:20 AM (9Qc6B)

378 PurpleAv: The bars aren't all uniform in size.

You either drill the bar, or use ultra-sound.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:20 AM (wYVte)

379 Well, I never discuss my third world dictator starter set on line. However, a short time ago I had the pleasure of shooting a Barret .50. I was seconds from buying it when a voice told me we have better things to spend 10K on. That voice was Mrs. Sailor.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:10 AM (3Y7RV)


I'm familiar with long range and .338's and .50's


Many .50 shooters don't like shooting them, yes they get out to 2500 yards ok but the current .338's will get to 2000-2200 ok also


the .338 shooters have a nicer dy of shooting


If you are east of the Mississippi River getting out past 100 yards is problematic from what I have heard


booh yeah ! !


Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 01:21 AM (jfSqj)

380 374
That's what hobos are for.


Posted by: Kristophr at December 26, 2012 01:18 AM (wYVte)


I heard from a friend that you can never get them to stand still.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:21 AM (lJJMb)

381 Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 01:21 AM (jfSqj)

The gent that owned told me 10 shots is a guaranteed headache. I fire it four times. I was thinking it would be a great tool to halt azure helmet's transport vehicles.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:24 AM (3Y7RV)

382 On the Tungsten and gold question. Will they actually alloy? Their melting temperatures are quite different ( 6192°F for W and 1948 °F for Au)and Archimedes density measurements would tell you with in fairly accurate way if they got above probably 1% of total.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:24 AM (wYGx/)

383 If you are east of the Mississippi River getting out past 100 yards is problematic from what I have heard





booh yeah ! !







Posted by: Moron #3 at December 26, 2012 01:21 AM (jfSqj)


Not in the midwest or Florida, but where I'm at you'd have to shoot from hilltop to hilltop to get to 600 anywhere houses aren't around.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:24 AM (lJJMb)

384 sock fail

ack!

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:25 AM (jfSqj)

385 The gent that owned told me 10 shots is a guaranteed headache. I fire it four times. I was thinking it would be a great tool to halt azure helmet's transport vehicles.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:24 AM (3Y7RV)

Last I saw the US Army will only let you shoot 60 shots from a Barrett per day in training


Overpressure is a bitch with .50 rifles


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:26 AM (jfSqj)

386 Overpressure is a bitch with .50 rifles







Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:26 AM (jfSqj)


Those aren't allowed at my home range - too much pony for the paddock.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:30 AM (lJJMb)

387 The problem with XRF was the effective depth and the TYPE of xrays, I
guess the type they use for testing industrial welds can't get through
something as dense as gold (I have no idea what i just said).>>

A normal XRF is likely like the one I use and has a 50Kv x-ray source. It will not accurately read anything covered by 1000 micro inches or of gold. (Time Distance Shielding).

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:30 AM (wYGx/)

388 Those aren't allowed at my home range - too much pony for the paddock.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:30 AM (lJJMb)


ballistically the .50 wins, but they suck to shoot and be around all day.

the .338 Lapua and .338 Edge do well out to a mile+







Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:34 AM (jfSqj)

389 the .338 Lapua and .338 Edge do well out to a mile+

Yep, I was poking around looking for something. Everyone is batshit over the black guns cause they are cool. I'd just not choose to get that close to the target unless it's necessary.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:36 AM (3Y7RV)

390 the .338 Lapua and .338 Edge do well out to a mile+



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:34 AM (jfSqj)



Any thoughts on .416 Barrett? When they first announced the cartridge, it sounded very promising in terms of BC. They said it would stay supersonic comparable to the big .50, but I haven't read anything regarding the round being fielded.


Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:38 AM (lJJMb)

391 Yep, I was poking around looking for something. Everyone is batshit over the black guns cause they are cool.>>

Dam shame too since it was the military stuff that used to be cheap.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:38 AM (wYGx/)

392 Yep, I was poking around looking for something. Everyone is batshit over the black guns cause they are cool. I'd just not choose to get that close to the target unless it's necessary.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:36 AM (3Y7RV)


there are guys locally who can hit a 2 ft by 2 ft steel plate regularly at a mile

like 2 or 3 out of 5 and the misses are not much of a miss


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:40 AM (jfSqj)

393 there are guys locally who can hit a 2 ft by 2 ft steel plate regularly at a mile

like 2 or 3 out of 5 and the misses are not much of a miss


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:40 AM (jfSqj)

That's fancy shootin. I can make a pie plate at 200 with iron sights, comfortable to 400 with a 7mm mauser and a 5x9 scope. Past that i'm real iffy.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:43 AM (3Y7RV)

394 Any thoughts on .416 Barrett? When they first announced the cartridge, it sounded very promising in terms of BC. They said it would stay supersonic comparable to the big .50, but I haven't read anything regarding the round being fielded.


Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:38 AM (lJJMb)



My understanding is the .416 has supply issues, as in out of stock alot plus it is expensive to shoot.

the .408 Cheytac is in the same boat


.338 is way more affordable than .416 and .408.

There is some chance that the .375 is promising






Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:45 AM (jfSqj)

395 Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 12:56 AM (XDC0v)

"Goddammit chemjeff we spent all morning trying to figure out how to detect tungsten in gold bars without drilling into them ..."


Just try to bend one, and see how it flexes.

Gold is soft, and not very springy. Tungsten is hard and does not bend nearly as easily.

Posted by: Arbalest at December 26, 2012 01:46 AM (VBu2v)

396 Though I enjoy Tarantino's movies I was going to boycott his latest because of lead actor Jamie Foxx's bigoted remarks, but now leading bigot Spike Lee is calling for a boycott of the movie.

Posted by: more confused than usual at December 26, 2012 01:46 AM (8/bPb)

397 Though I enjoy Tarantino's movies I was going to boycott his latest because of lead actor Jamie Foxx's bigoted remarks, but now leading bigot Spike Lee is calling for a boycott of the movie.
Posted by: more confused than usual at December 26, 2012 01:46 AM (8/bPb)

Fucking Canadians don't know WTF they want.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:47 AM (3Y7RV)

398 That's fancy shootin. I can make a pie plate at 200 with iron sights,
comfortable to 400 with a 7mm Mauser and a 5x9 scope. Past that i'm real
iffy.>>

If you're a cheap bastard like me it's an Enfield or a Mauser 95 I'm guessing

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:49 AM (wYGx/)

399 There is some chance that the .375 is promising





Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:45 AM (jfSqj)


Which flavor of .375?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:49 AM (lJJMb)

400 That's fancy shootin. I can make a pie plate at 200 with iron sights, comfortable to 400 with a 7mm mauser and a 5x9 scope. Past that i'm real iffy.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:43 AM (3Y7RV)


nah, it is equipment and training.

We had a guy show up with a brand new rifle and scope combo, probably $1k in the rifle and $1500 in the scope.


The match director gave him some instructon and he hit 1400 yards once in his first 5 shots


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:50 AM (jfSqj)

401 396
Though I enjoy Tarantino's movies I was going to boycott his latest
because of lead actor Jamie Foxx's bigoted remarks, but now leading
bigot Spike Lee is calling for a boycott of the movie.


Posted by: more confused than usual at December 26, 2012 01:46 AM (8/bPb)


They can't figure out which PC rules to follow and what trumps what right now. Perhaps somebody can make a decision tree to explain what racism is acceptable and under what conditions. Perhaps then the permanently aggrieved could have a tool to find common ground, or at least a common target, as soon as the creator of the tool was discovered. Perhaps.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:53 AM (lJJMb)

402 If you're a cheap bastard like me it's an Enfield or a Mauser 95 I'm guessing
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 01:49 AM (wYGx/)


Actually it's a 1913 Chekoslavakian rifle. It's really cool.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 01:53 AM (3Y7RV)

403 I can eat a piece of pie off of a pie plate ...

Posted by: lil Adriane tryin' to keep up with the big boys... at December 26, 2012 01:54 AM (9Qc6B)

404 re: "Geologic science hadn't settled on continental drift, or an Earth that was older than 6000 years."

Aside from Ussher's famous guess, which seems to have been crafted with an eye to matching Johannes Kepler's contemporary estimate, earth's Biblically deduced age has pretty much always hovered around 8-10,000 years. Prior to the discovery of radioactivity, scientific/philosophic estimates of the earth's age ranged from 75,000 to infinite years. "6000 years" was a fleeting outlier, confined to Kepler fans and some Irish Catholics.

I hear a lot of people believe it now (and I doubt it), but back then, almost nobody did. The "Until [insert science-y thing here], people believed..." part of the "6000 years" story is just flattery of the storyteller and his audience. It never really happened (much).

Posted by: oblig.'s peeve corner at December 26, 2012 01:56 AM (cePv8)

405 Which flavor of .375?
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:49 AM (lJJMb)


today it is the .375 Cheytac, so a .408 CheyTac necked down to .375

Sierra is making a MK in .375 at 350 grains

BC in the 8's, MV north of 3100, maybe up to 3300




Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:57 AM (jfSqj)

406 403
I can eat a piece of pie off of a pie plate ...

Posted by: lil Adriane tryin' to keep up with the big boys... at December 26, 2012 01:54 AM (9Qc6B)


Ma'am, compared to these others, I am best suited to have some pie as well.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 01:59 AM (lJJMb)

407 I can eat a piece of pie off of a pie plate ...
Posted by: lil Adriane tryin' to keep up with the big boys... at December 26, 2012 01:54 AM (9Qc6B)


get a Glock 17, it'll be cool



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:59 AM (jfSqj)

408 Actually it's a 1913 Chekoslavakian rifle. It's really cool.>>

I bought most of my guns in the 70s thru 80s most are military and a friend was selling or I got a line on something cheap. So I have a really odd mixture of guns. Only when Clinton put the ban in did I get an AK. Learned on single shot stuff and they will always be the best distance shooters.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:00 AM (wYGx/)

409 I can eat a piece of pie off of a pie plate ...
Posted by: lil Adriane tryin' to keep up with the big boys... at December 26, 2012 01:54 AM (9Qc6B)


I got a SIG .380 with less than 100 rounds through it i'll sell ya.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 02:01 AM (3Y7RV)

410 Well, I'm gonna finish my drink, and go to bed. Later rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, aka Jack July author of Amy Lynn available on Amazon. at December 26, 2012 02:03 AM (3Y7RV)

411 Sierra is making a MK in .375 at 350 grains



BC in the 8's, MV north of 3100, maybe up to 3300





Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 01:57 AM (jfSqj)


So the USMC round in 360 grains will come next?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:04 AM (lJJMb)

412 get a Glock 17, it'll be cool

THE PLAN was to get a Remington 1170 20 gauge, followed by a Sig Sauer 9 mm (after trying out a friend's).

... but water and freeze dried foods might supersede that, the way things are going ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 02:05 AM (9Qc6B)

413 Goodnight OSP.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:05 AM (wYGx/)

414 shooting far with iron sights is fun.


since I'm Jake people have me shoot the wierdest shit.

I've hit 600 yards with a M44 Moisen Nagant in 7.62x54R and 550 yards witha K31 Swiss in 7.5x55 with irons



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:05 AM (jfSqj)

415 Good night, OSP ...

congrats on your novel.

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 02:06 AM (9Qc6B)

416 I can eat a piece of pie off of a pie plate ...

Posted by: lil Adriane tryin' to keep up with the big boys...>>

Big boys don't need plates to eat pie. AoSHQ lifestyle.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:07 AM (wYGx/)

417 Good night, Jake, buzzsaw, and St.Pat ...

Merry 1st Day Christmas to you all ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 02:08 AM (9Qc6B)

418 since I'm Jake people have me shoot the wierdest shit.



I've hit 600 yards with a M44 Moisen Nagant in 7.62x54R...




Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:05 AM (jfSqj)


If they were decent they'd have given you a Finn M39.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:09 AM (lJJMb)

419 So the USMC round in 360 grains will come next?
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:04 AM (lJJMb)

if they were starting from scratch, the bullit would be 400 grains or bigger

but Sierra is based in Missouri, I think and they don't shoot as far as we do



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:10 AM (jfSqj)

420 Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 02:08>>

Good night to you too, And Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:11 AM (wYGx/)

421 PurpleAv: The bars aren't all uniform in size.

Starting size doesn't matter for a before/after measurement. Measure it, heat it, and see if it expanded per spec.

Metal expansions are very predictable.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 26, 2012 02:11 AM (hcG0U)

422 posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:10 AM (jfSqj)


I hate to explain a joke, but that was in ref. to the Army running 168 SMKs in their M14 DMRs while the USMC went with 175 SMKs with their M14 DMR.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:15 AM (lJJMb)

423 THE PLAN was to get a Remington 1170 20 gauge, followed by a Sig Sauer 9 mm (after trying out a friend's).

... but water and freeze dried foods might supersede that, the way things are going ...
Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 02:05 AM (9Qc6B)

well without the Remington 1170 20 gauge, or SigSauer9, you might not keep your foor and water


an economical way to go is a Remington 870 nad a Glock or Springfield XD9


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:15 AM (jfSqj)

424 Posted by: Adriane ... at December 26, 2012 02:08 AM (9Qc6B)

g'night, stay safe







Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:17 AM (jfSqj)

425 an economical way to go is a Remington 870 nad a Glock or Springfield XD9



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:15 AM (jfSqj)



I am no expert when it comes to shooting, but I can say for certain, from personal experience, that the difference in speed between a pump-action shotgun and a semi is minimal. Get the pump. You won't be any slower and will have fewer moving parts.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:20 AM (lJJMb)

426 I hate to explain a joke, but that was in ref. to the Army running 168 SMKs in their M14 DMRs while the USMC went with 175 SMKs with their M14 DMR.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:15 AM (lJJMb)

I missed that, early on when I started shooting for serious, a Range Master told me the 168SMK was a 600 yard bullet, it took me about 5 years to figgure out what he was talking about

but hey, I learn from mistakes, er experiance, yeah that is it experiance



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:20 AM (jfSqj)

427 an economical way to go is a Remington 870 nad a Glock or Springfield XD9
>>

No an economical way is a Mossberg and a Makorov.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:22 AM (wYGx/)

428 shit, I gotta work for about 10 minutes


BRB




Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:23 AM (jfSqj)

429 Makarov - cheapy and bangy.

Hard to beat. The Soviets got that one right.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 26, 2012 02:23 AM (hcG0U)

430 Goodnight and Merry Christmas, morons. Thanks for the company.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:24 AM (lJJMb)

431 Hard to beat. The Soviets got that one right.>>

The soviets got a couple of guns right if you're outfitting a bunker. Or just like collecting tools on the cheap. Back in the day there were lots more that went bargain basement but since I'm no longer in the market (full tool chest for anything but collectable) I don't know the prices of cheap stuff anymore.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:29 AM (wYGx/)

432 Okay, so we've got some SOB who kills his grandmother with a hammer; is released after 17 years, and goes on to kill 2 firefighters. What is wrong with this picture?

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 02:35 AM (BVkEs)

433 Whoops, I seem to have dozed off.

For a couple of hours.

Thread dead?

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 02:36 AM (LUnTP)

434 I am no expert when it comes to shooting, but I can say for certain, from personal experience, that the difference in speed between a pump-action shotgun and a semi is minimal. Get the pump. You won't be any slower and will have fewer moving parts.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 26, 2012 02:20 AM (lJJMb)



speed wise a pump and semi are very similar, the diff I see is you tend to pull off target when stroking the pump, while the semi- shooter is still on target.



pumps jam less as long as you fully stroke the slide,



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:36 AM (jfSqj)

435 What is wrong with this picture?
Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 02:35 AM (BVkEs)


well, he is a fellon and prohibeted from owning a firearm, but hey criminals by deffinition don't follow the law

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:38 AM (jfSqj)

436 Something I find interesting (if I were a panic buyer currently) is the place near me has AKs but no ARs. One can argue the fine points between them but for the novice the AK has proven it's superiority in third world nations around the world for throwing lead.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:39 AM (wYGx/)

437 he is a fellon and prohibeted from owning a firearm,

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:38 AM (jfSqj)

We need a law that forces criminals to obey the law!

Posted by: Some Retard Independent Voter at December 26, 2012 02:40 AM (LUnTP)

438 We need a law that forces criminals to obey the law!>>

Well at least a Tax!!

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:42 AM (wYGx/)

439


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:38 AM (jfSqj)

---
Yeah, heard someone say: Well, he was a convicted felon, he wasn't "allowed" to have a weapon. Allowed? WTF! No guns for you?

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 26, 2012 02:43 AM (BVkEs)

440 I think the fellon = no guns for you, is Gun Control Act of 1968, not 100% on that though



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:45 AM (jfSqj)

441
I think the fellon = no guns for you, is Gun Control Act of 1968, not 100% on that though>>

Don't know (and this is not personal) but have you ever known a felon that didn't have a gun?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:47 AM (wYGx/)

442 is released after 17 years, and goes on to kill 2 firefighters. What is wrong with this picture?

Back in the 90's I was paying close attention to the FBI's LEO's killed/assaulted yearly reports. They gave fairly detailed descriptions of the murders and particulars on the perps.

Looking through about 10 years worth, a consistent pattern emerged. ~30% of the cops that were murdered were killed by perps with prior arrests for murder.


Posted by: @PurpAv at December 26, 2012 02:48 AM (hcG0U)

443 in 441 I should have included the word "convicted" with "felon" to not confuse things.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:51 AM (wYGx/)

444 Don't know (and this is not personal) but have you ever known a felon that didn't have a gun?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:47 AM (wYGx/)


Can't say, I don't hang out with any fellons, and don't know any fellons, at least that I can think of


I generally operate on the principle that I want fellons to not fuck with Jake, so they don't get shot.


You do know you can legally shoot someone in ID, right?


If it is a justified shoot, you can go home and keep your weapon





Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:55 AM (jfSqj)

445 444 ...and sleep like a BABY

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 02:57 AM (XDC0v)

446 The "convicted felon" thing is one of the problems we have. Felony firearms charges get bargained away far too often and you're left with 1st degree misdemeanors for the record...which don't disqualify.

I think its impossible to get prosecutors to ever change, they want a high conviction rate, and they prefer it never goes to trial ending in a plea deal.

If we had a category of plea where someone cops to the felony for the purposes of a NICS check, but it isn't recorded elsewhere as a felony conviction and entails no additional jail time, we'd have a more effective NICS, and prosecutors can continue playing their bullshit stats games.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 26, 2012 02:59 AM (hcG0U)

447 DAve, still working on a list of powder for .45ACP




,

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 02:59 AM (jfSqj)

448 Can't say, I don't hang out with any fellons, and don't know any fellons, at least that I can think of>>

You may think you don't but I'd be surprised if you actually don't. Anything above grand is a felony (I think) so lots of people make that bar and it doesn't have to be violent,

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 02:59 AM (wYGx/)

449 Mmmmmkay, I'm off to bed. Can barely keep my eyes open now and, as much as I'm enjoying his latest record, John 5 here isn't enough to keep me awake.

Good night, ONT, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2012 03:01 AM (LUnTP)

450 Looking through about 10 years worth, a consistent pattern emerged. ~30% of the cops that were murdered were killed by perps with prior arrests for murder.



I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

The rest were just force of habit...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQcgcmZvv28

Posted by: THE Man in Black at December 26, 2012 03:04 AM (SSWdi)

451 the end,

It is already tomorrow, and I got to work tomorrow





stay safe you 'rons and 'ettes





J

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 26, 2012 03:04 AM (jfSqj)

452 Good Night J in ID and Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 03:06 AM (wYGx/)

453 Holy crap It's after 2 here! Night all.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 26, 2012 03:08 AM (wYGx/)

454 I guess everyone got one but me: http://tinyurl.com/czgdq95

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 03:42 AM (XDC0v)

455 I'm actually somewhat pleased......had a discussion with the BH about relocating that wasn't adversarial. Didn't rise to the "RUN!" level, but gained some ground.



In case you're wondering about "RUN!" -- I live in California, real estate (half interest in my home) is my second largest asset group, and progressives have won an overwhelming majority in both houses of the state legislature -- there are no filibusters, supermajorities, or state constitutional issues to restrict them.....and they've had a serious bug up their behinds about Prop 13 since 1978.



I fully expect that the reverse of the Prop 13 effect will happen once the Progs start tampering with it -- real estate gained in value once purchasers could be certain of future cash-outflows for taxes. Just think about that in slo-mo.....an investor who is looking to invest would like to see a projection with inflows for rent and outflows for depreciation, taxes, insurance, repairs, etc.. The more solid (with positive return), the more valuable. If taxes could be $10K this year and $20K the next, how would an investor value a deal? At the higher tax rate.....which means a lower price.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 26, 2012 04:31 AM (kaalw)

456 455 Prop 13 was the only thing that made living in CA. affordable- hope they don't repeal it entirely but as you say there's noone to stop them

Posted by: DAve at December 26, 2012 05:26 AM (XDC0v)

457 Killing Prop. 13 would be something to bring joy to Jerry Brown's tiny heart. It would be the crowning achievement of the nation;s dumbest electorate in bringing back the governor who fought the legislation that allow the state to remain functional as long as it did.

My freshly widowed mother would have been forced to sell the family home and leave the state if Prop. 13 hadn't passed back then. She would have made a considerable profit over what we'd paid for the house in 1974 but where would we have gone that wasn't a severe step down in the now inflated market? We would simply have been forced to go to another state, which meant one of three choice where my mother had family and history: Rhode Island, Massachusetts, or Florida. None of them hold a lot of appeal to me as a permanent state of residence.

Posted by: epobirs at December 26, 2012 06:19 AM (kcfmt)

458 Anybody else notice that the recruits in the FMG video are talking (and singing!) at parade rest? Kubrick may have gotten outer space right, but he sure didn't do his homework on formation and drill.

Posted by: Ed Snyder at December 26, 2012 09:39 AM (U0r2s)






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