Sunday Morning Open Thread

Merry Christmas Eve eve.

Get your shopping done, slackers.

Posted by: Andy at 07:42 AM



Comments

1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, December 23, 2012. On this day in 1913 Woodrow Wilson signed the Glass-Owen Bill creating the Federal Reserve. Shortly after we got the Great Depression when they began “controlling” the currency.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:43 AM (53z96)

2 Newtown children flooded with money and gifts. This is not a “poor” community and these children do not need “gifts and money”. They need for the MFM and the busybodies to get out of their life and leave them alone.

http://is.gd/bLgvDE

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:43 AM (53z96)

3 Debate about rich people and businesses leaving CA because of taxes? Why is there a debate? They have been leaving by the droves for over a decade already. The only reason CA has not lost population is the flood of illegals and even that is drying up.

http://is.gd/y0giru

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:43 AM (53z96)

4 Another foreign policy victory for the Chum King as Egypt approves the Islamic constitution.

http://is.gd/gS6uZh

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:44 AM (53z96)

5 CNN parodies itself and calls for “profiling” white people. They have got to be trying to drum up viewers by controversy. Nobody is this stupid.

http://is.gd/jJNb7p

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:44 AM (53z96)

6 Parents sue school and obnoxious teacher for ridiculing their daughter’s Romney shirt. If the actions in this story are true this scrunt does not belong within 5 miles of a school.


Before you look at the teacher’s picture yes I denounce myself.

http://is.gd/HxGqrw

http://is.gd/Kmv569

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:44 AM (53z96)

7 Why is it that in every “news” agency people who support the second amendment are “gun lobbyists” while gun grabbers are “advocates”?

http://is.gd/6wItwE

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:45 AM (53z96)

8 BB speculates the end of Boner on Jan 3. I doubt it.

http://is.gd/XtzxSm

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:45 AM (53z96)

9 Two fake Republicans who are gun grabbers attack the NRA.

http://is.gd/eYJsr2

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:45 AM (53z96)

10 And good mornin' to all.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 23, 2012 07:45 AM (4Mv1T)

11 Gabe likes to say the “plan B” vote was sabotaged by a few angry conservatives who are doing us no favors. It turns out that the Pelosi Plan vote was never even close.

http://is.gd/OolzRo

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:45 AM (53z96)

12 Newspapers in SC still pushing the BS globull warming crap from NOAA based on a few hot days. For the record I have been logging the high and low temps every day since 2008. Only one month this year has had a higher daily average than the same month last year and it was only a fraction of a degree higher. The rest were actually lower. What you are hearing from NOAA is a lie.

http://is.gd/nC2LDo

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:46 AM (53z96)

13 WaPo searches for a motive in CT shooting. Look you stupid shits, the guy shot babies there is no motive. The SOB was insane and should have been locked up. You can thank the liberals in the ACLU.

http://is.gd/ds7YlP

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:46 AM (53z96)

14 Kindle Daily Deals

http://is.gd/zIx9jm

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:46 AM (53z96)

15 Daily Christmas Kitteh


http://is.gd/teNgfs


Good thing it is almost Christmas. I am running out of kittehs. But that is it for Sunday, December 23, 2012.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:47 AM (53z96)

16 Ah Andy, I used to have one of those Lionel train sets. I wish I had a large room I could put one up in now and the money to buy it.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:48 AM (53z96)

17 I have a small one around my tree, Vic.

http://goo.gl/dnf1B

Posted by: Andy at December 23, 2012 07:50 AM (OZPoa)

18 Nice

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:51 AM (53z96)

19



DAY 47

1,413 to go


Mayans, Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, miscreants, momzers, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 07:51 AM (XkWWK)

20 Nothing fancy, but I still put up my dad's Marx train that he got as as a kid in the late 20's. Just a short track around the tree. Reminds me of the simpler times even in the 1960's when I would run the thing for hours. I don't think most kids would appreciate it now.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 07:53 AM (d6+Gd)

21 Here is an original 1954 Lionel train set for a small price.

http://is.gd/dcuuFR




Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:55 AM (53z96)

22 It appears the new ones run about $400. Of course when I was a kid that $400 was about $4.00 so the price has come down.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:57 AM (53z96)

23 Good morning all.

I have been a model train enthusiast (read: "nut") since I was a kid. Scale models, though I do appreciate anything with wheels on rails. I have zero space for a layout, but I still build the odd model now and then just to keep the skills handy.

Ironically, my dad's brother was one of the founding partners of Comet Model Airplane & Supply Company. He was the annoying little pisher who every now and then would raid the warehouse for kits and wood. Dad went on to build models for NACA before being sent off for B-29 gunnery training.

Miss him every day.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 07:57 AM (XkWWK)

24 And why the hell did Neil Young have to buy the company? Sure, he did help pioneer a lot of today's model railroad electronics, and I am a big fan of his older music, but couldn't he just shut up and sing?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 07:59 AM (XkWWK)

25 Christmas Eve is Dec. 24, you Morons.

Posted by: Manolo at December 23, 2012 08:01 AM (PttbO)

26 I got mine ten years ago or so.

The Mrs. had bought some cheap little toy train as part of the Christmas decorations and my daughter really loved it. It broke, and I said, "f*** this, I'm getting a real train."

Posted by: Andy at December 23, 2012 08:03 AM (OZPoa)

27 Ain't "Plan B" for abortions? That pretty much sums up what Boehner's effort has been. Time for new House leadership. Maybe this time elect someone who has some jimmies.

Posted by: Manolo at December 23, 2012 08:03 AM (PttbO)

28 Thanks Vic. Nicely done. Merry Christmas Eve eve.

Posted by: USA at December 23, 2012 08:04 AM (RIg+t)

29 11 Gabe likes to say the “plan B” vote was sabotaged by a few angry conservatives who are doing us no favors. It turns out that the Pelosi Plan vote was never even close.

http://is.gd/OolzRo
Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 07:45 AM (53z96)


I do not understand Gabe and others getting their panties in a twist. No matter what Boehner and company presented, it was DOA. Besides that, the real issue is spending, not taxes.

SCOAMF's end game is to destroy the Republican Party by making Boehner admit that our core principles of low taxes and limited government are what destroyed the economy. It would pave the way for the total take over of the country's economy and the re-writing of history.

6 weeks ago, he could have told the President and the American people that the only way out is to cut spending and reduce taxes. But within moments of Romney's concession, Boehner capitulated. That's why our party is convulsing, we have no message and the left is once again framing the debate with their lies.

I think, at least temporarily, the GOP is still alive because good people in the party stood on principle.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)

30 Nice story, J. J.

Posted by: Andy at December 23, 2012 08:08 AM (OZPoa)

31 27 Maybe this time elect someone who has some jimmies.
Posted by: Manolo at December 23, 2012 08:03 AM (PttbO)

In NYC, we call jimmies "sprinkles."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:08 AM (XkWWK)

32 Obama own the MFM so it doesn't matter what we do we will get the blame if it goers South (further than it already is) and Obama will get fake credit on BS made up numbers.


Based on that Boner should just sit back and shut up. Wait for Obama to do something. He should never have opened his mouth.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:10 AM (53z96)

33 30 Nice story, J. J.
Posted by: Andy at December 23, 2012 08:08 AM (OZPoa)

Thanks, Andy. There's actually a short documentary that one of the partners' kids made called "The Comet Model News." I cried when I saw it; really brought my dad's stories to life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:10 AM (XkWWK)

34
Man, got lots-o-shopping to do today that normally I would wait till tomorrow to do. I figure it'll be a good day to get a few deals from HH Gregg and Game Stop.

And good morning.

Posted by: Gmac - Who wishes all a Merry Christmas, except for those retards that re-elected the SCOAMF at December 23, 2012 08:11 AM (IanLz)

35 JJ it is colder here than in NYC. Got down to 24 last night.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:12 AM (53z96)

36 RE: The Federal Reserve

Economies have downturns, the natural cycle. 1929 is the first time we had a government agency "Enforce Market Discipline"

The Fed assured the depth and destructiveness of the Depression. and that is why in 2008 and 1987, they flooded the market with cash. Didn't want to fuck it up again.

Posted by: billypaintbrush at December 23, 2012 08:12 AM (P9y1e)

37 They created 2008 just like they created 1929.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:14 AM (53z96)

38 35 JJ it is colder here than in NYC. Got down to 24 last night.
Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:12 AM (53z96)

Oy! New York City winters are fairly tolerable, except for the odd blizzard and the ensuing Doomberg incompetent response. We usually get a bad cold snap in late January/early February.

As someone's Norwegian relative used to say "there is no bad weather, just bad clothing."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:16 AM (XkWWK)

39 Merry Christmas to all.

Posted by: ExPat Patriot at December 23, 2012 08:16 AM (frDtf)

40 The bigger the government gets the bigger the crises get.

And the only solution is more government.

Embrace the DOOM.

Posted by: eman at December 23, 2012 08:18 AM (EWsrI)

41 >>Christmas Eve is Dec. 24, you Morons.

That's why Andy said Eve eve.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2012 08:19 AM (SUKHu)

42 The same as liberals are always just introduced by their name on the MSM shows, but conservatives are always announced with an adjective or two in front of their name.

Posted by: Icedog at December 23, 2012 08:19 AM (9ScGj)

43 37 They created 2008 just like they created 1929.
Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:14 AM (53z96)


Yup. And I never knew until very recently that we had a crash and almost a depression in 1920. But Calvin Coolidge ignored his key economic adviser, a guy named Herbert Hoover, and did nothing but lower taxes. An obscure phenomenon known as "the Roaring 20's" happened.

And 9 years later, Hoover was president.
Hmmm....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:19 AM (XkWWK)

44 And if 1929 had not happened we would have never got FDR.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:21 AM (53z96)

45 42 The same as liberals are always just introduced by their name on the MSM shows, but conservatives are always announced with an adjective or two in front of their name.
Posted by: Icedog at December 23, 2012 08:19 AM (9ScGj)


Standard operating procedure starting in journalism school. The words "far-right" "extreme" and "radical" are always used as prefixes to "conservative."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:21 AM (XkWWK)

46
G'morning, 'Rons and 'Ronettes!

Gotta go walk our Portuguese Water Dog. Where's my $100K?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 23, 2012 08:22 AM (Jcd0S)

47 44 And if 1929 had not happened we would have never got FDR.
Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:21 AM (53z96)


Interesting thought. Though Hoover, despite being a Republican, was also a progressive. He, as you may know, was the one that enacted Smoot-Hawley and turned a bad downturn into depression, paving the way for FDR to turn depression into the GREAT Depression.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:23 AM (XkWWK)

48 Hoover gave us 1929 and FDR. FDR gave us the extended Great Depression.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:26 AM (53z96)

49 I should say The Fed at the direction of Hoover gave us 1929.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:27 AM (53z96)

50 For another look at an 1951 electric train set which I think is a Marx check out the top Shorpy today.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:29 AM (53z96)

51 Ho ho ho, dammitt!

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 23, 2012 08:34 AM (5H6zj)

52 I wonder if they have virtual train sets yet?

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 08:36 AM (NIZHJ)

53 Plumbing got fixed easily yesterday.

20 minutes to find the clean out valve buried in the flower bed.

20 minutes to get the machine in place, including time to use the hedge trimmer to clear a path through the flower bed (hedge bed would be more accurate).

40 minutes to listen to the plumber tell horror stories of hot water heaters attached to heat pumps (so they keep working when it gets really cold) and complain about the city and the way it wastes money.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2012 08:36 AM (SUKHu)

54 I love model trains. Never had one, maybe because I'm a girl. Prob should ask the ACLU to sue my dad for gender discrimination.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 23, 2012 08:37 AM (5H6zj)

55 "making" cinnamon rolls for the kids
hot coffee in a favorite mug
Sunday Morning thread.

The world seems right for a moment

Posted by: USA at December 23, 2012 08:37 AM (RIg+t)

56 Mmmm be right over USA.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 23, 2012 08:38 AM (5H6zj)

57 I wonder if they have virtual train sets yet? Somebody at Zynga is asleep at the switch.

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 08:38 AM (NIZHJ)

58 I miss the days when kids put on a tie and combed their hair before they opened their presents. Oh, wait, no I don't.

Posted by: pep at December 23, 2012 08:38 AM (6TB1Z)

59
They need for the MFM and the busybodies to get out of their life and leave them alone.





Now that they've finished laying their loved ones to rest, the vultures will go home.
I detest the media.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 23, 2012 08:39 AM (DoZD+)

60 A dog and a train set. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Al at December 23, 2012 08:42 AM (V70Uh)

61 My favorite "abortions rights advocate".vs "abortion foe"

Somehow they're never "fetal foes".despite the pleasing alliteration. Nope. They're "rights advocates!"

Blargh.

Posted by: Lauren at December 23, 2012 08:42 AM (wsGWu)

62 The Great Depression did have it's good points though -- lots of stockbrokers jumping out of windows and making splatty sounds on the concrete.

C'mon, admit it, it would cheer up your day to hear that Jon Corzine took a nice swan dive off the Empire State building.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2012 08:43 AM (cHZB7)

63 We had to go to church before we could open presents.

Good thing the church was four blocks away and they had a 6:00 am Mass.

Posted by: Al at December 23, 2012 08:43 AM (V70Uh)

64 I wonder if they have virtual train sets yet?


Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 08:36 AM (NIZHJ)

Yes they do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln_smOJ6T64

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:45 AM (53z96)

65 Still have my HO gage train I got as a wee lad back in the sixties.
One day I'll set it up permanently.
In other news, I picked up a brand spanking new Evil Black Rifle the other day.
The counter guy told me I'd make money on it driving home.
Got their last one.

Posted by: VW Zao at December 23, 2012 08:45 AM (vWZa0)

66 Stock brokers and the banking cartels today don't have the courage to do the right thing. They need a little help.

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 08:46 AM (NIZHJ)

67 My kids have spend countless hours playing with trains.

Thomas the Tank Engine, not Lionel, but still fun.

My oldest played with them for hours every day, from the age of 1 1/2 to about 7 or 8. This is the first Christmas since 2001 that I haven't bought any new engines or track! (Only because I couldn't find any engines we didn't already have in local stores...)

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2012 08:46 AM (SUKHu)

68 We followed the German tradition of opening our Xmas presents on Xmas Eve. You got to play with them for an hour or so, and then off to bed. I guess I never came to grips with the inherent conflict between that and Santa's midnight visit. This may explain a lot about the Germans.

Posted by: pep at December 23, 2012 08:47 AM (6TB1Z)

69 The Great Depression did have it's good points though -- lots of
stockbrokers jumping out of windows and making splatty sounds on the
concrete.




That is a myth. It did not actually happen.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 08:48 AM (53z96)

70 @63
We went to Mass Christmas Eve, then we'd drive around and look at lights. Presents bright and early.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 23, 2012 08:48 AM (5H6zj)

71 69 I found one in Baltimore.

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 08:50 AM (NIZHJ)

72 >> That is a myth. It did not actually happen.

Killjoy.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2012 08:50 AM (cHZB7)

73 My mom made the best stockings for us. She'd sit on the edge of our beds while opened them. Damn I miss her.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at December 23, 2012 08:50 AM (5H6zj)

74 Good morning, sunshines!

Last night I wrote a fine bit of doggerel, only to have it end up in the ban bucket. I presume it's not personal, since my cell comments are getting through. What's the procedure? Do I need to send the Acemeisters my IP, or look up my desktop hash tag or what? The bribe will be in the mail just as soon as I can fit the pennies into the envelope. The virgin fleshlight has already been sacrificed.

Posted by: That drive-by Mindful Guy at December 23, 2012 08:51 AM (u57y4)

75 We went to midnight mass.
Christmas morning was all ours.
Later with kids of my own, we had just finished putting all the stuff out and got in bed. Then we heard "Santa came!"
That was about 1:00 AM. I called shenanigans, but alas, too late.

Posted by: VW Zao at December 23, 2012 08:52 AM (vWZa0)

76 >>We had to go to church before we could open presents.

That must have been hard.

We're going to a service Christmas Eve afternoon. Almost feels too easy!

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2012 08:55 AM (SUKHu)

77 I have a large basement layout, 25 feet by 15 feet, running all of the Lionel trains I received back in the 50's. The oldest engine is one I received for Christmas 1948 when I was 18 months old. Still runs great. Throughout the 90's, I added many of the newer steam and diesels, many with Railsounds, along with many of the accessories I didn't receive as a kid, such as the saw mill, barrel loader and milk car. A nice relaxing hobby, for sure. My mom took a picture of me with that original set running under the tree in 1949, and I did the same with my son when he was the same age, placing the cars in the same order in which they appeared in the that long ago photo.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 23, 2012 08:56 AM (TPimP)

78 >>Do I need to send the Acemeisters my IP

Andy seems to be the one who gets it fixed.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2012 08:57 AM (SUKHu)

79 25 Christmas Eve is Dec. 24, you Morons.
Posted by: Manolo at December 23, 2012 08:01 AM (PttbO)

Thanks for sharing!

Posted by: Cricket at December 23, 2012 08:57 AM (2ArJQ)

80 When you're a kid, Christmas Eve is the longest day of the year.

Posted by: HH at December 23, 2012 08:57 AM (XXwdv)

81 I'm STILL mad at my oldest for what he did about 5 years ago.

I'd found a really awesome present and was sooooooooo looking forward to seeing his face when he opened it.

The little turkey got up early and just started opening his presents by himself!!!111!!

BRB, glaring at the kid one more time...

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 23, 2012 09:00 AM (SUKHu)

82 #77 That is something to admire!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at December 23, 2012 09:00 AM (l3vZN)

83 60 A dog and a train set. What could go wrong?
Posted by: Al at December 23, 2012 08:42 AM (V70Uh)

A CAT (or two!) and model trains do not mix! Oh well...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 09:02 AM (XkWWK)

84 My kids were getting jaded.
So one year we went off to midnight mass.
We had enlisted the neighbors to pile the swag under the tree while we were away. The runts about freaked when we got home. Kept ol Santa in business for a couple more years.

Posted by: VW Zao at December 23, 2012 09:03 AM (vWZa0)

85 74 Mindful Guy,

Did just the post get rejected, or is your home IP now banned for all posts?

Andy is the best about getting accidental bannings unbanned. He needs details though, and I don't know his email addy. I wish the instructions on the process was made into a permanent sticky in the left sidebar.

I also wish to find Kate Upton under my Christmas tree wearing nothing but a bow and a smile.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 23, 2012 09:04 AM (cHZB7)

86 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 09:02 AM (XkWWK)

However, cats and slot-cars can be quite entertaining...

Posted by: HH at December 23, 2012 09:04 AM (XXwdv)

87 However, cats and slot-cars can be quite entertaining...


Posted by: HH

Ditto that. I had HO and 1/32 slots in the mid 60's. Kept the cat busy practicing his stalk and pounce. Laugh our butts off.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:13 AM (d6+Gd)

88 Andy!

Banning question in comment 74.

That might work.

Or his twitter account is in his name in the 'posted by' up in the post that is posted in this post.

Posted by: Mama AJ, Moron Help at December 23, 2012 09:13 AM (SUKHu)

89 Largest Train set in Da World....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_oDdGmKyA

Damn Germans know how to drink beer and build Train Sets...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 23, 2012 09:13 AM (rBK2Z)

90 I used to have a Lionel train set when I was a kid in the 60s, and my dad even worked for a railroad. I guess trains were a more important part of people's lives back then.

So why don't kids today get airport sets? That would be cool. On the other hand, I guess planes taking off would crash into the walls.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2012 09:14 AM (sdi6R)

91 Help DESK.
Ah, yes, you can post a comment here by hitting some key combo.

Ido sometimes and have no idea what I pressed. I was trying to make a capital D...

Posted by: Mama AJ, Moron Help Desk at December 23, 2012 09:15 AM (SUKHu)

92 The Federal Reserve is not a govt agency. It is a privately owned central bank that creates money out of nothing and charges us interest for it.
It is the main tool used by the "progressives" who hate our freedom a want a return to the type of aristocracy our founders fought a revolution to free us from.
Some of our founders warned about this but people who listen to their words today are Alinskyized (like that word? ) as tin foil hat types by self described intellectuals.

Posted by: teej at December 23, 2012 09:16 AM (SYS+p)

93 I have an apple fritter, a cup of Jamaican Blue Mountain Coffee and a snoozing Greyhound. Life is good right now and I plan to enjoy it today.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 23, 2012 09:18 AM (QkEg0)

94
At least you didn't say Happy Festivus!


Merry, Merry Christmas and a very joy filled and safe New Year, Moron and Moronettes!

Posted by: peace on beach at December 23, 2012 09:20 AM (LpQbZ)

95 Good Mornin' Horde.

I just got finished watching the videos of Piers Morgan getting schooled by Uncle Ted Nugent. What a great way to start the day.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 09:21 AM (yiIja)

96 Largest Train set in Da World....


They had (have?) a large set in the Museum of Science and Interesting (my youthful pronunciation) When we would go back in my ute, the damn thing was hardly ever running. You would look at all of the track and layout, an think how great it would be if you could have a small part of that in your own basement. Nothing running...maybe one switch engine. Fck that, on to the U505!!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:21 AM (d6+Gd)

97 From WZ:
An Imam at Australia’s biggest mosque has issued a fatwa against Christmas, warning followers it is a ”sin” to even wish people a Merry Christmas.

Posted by: USA at December 23, 2012 09:21 AM (RIg+t)

98 Once I found out Santa wasn't real, that part of Christmas lost something for me. Last year.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 23, 2012 09:22 AM (MPjT8)

99 If I was a kid today, this is what I would want:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny-AKUIQr9c

(Don't look, AtC!)

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2012 09:22 AM (sdi6R)

100 86, 87 -- Still have three sets of slots (32nd/Eldon) from the 60's/70's...they're a fun diversion on a snowy, weekend day. Haven't done that in quite a while...

Posted by: billygoat at December 23, 2012 09:22 AM (6DDE+)

101 I was half-watching a 'This Old House' episode a couple nights ago. They're going to refurbish a 'shotgun shack' (remember the Talking Heads tune?) in New Orleans. Maybe it's a rerun, I don't know. (I just checked, it is a rerun.)

Anyway, it's a very ancient, very lousy design which provides for about zero privacy. Wiki has a lot of information and history on the things, including one of the reasons they came into being; high taxes.

In other words, even back then, at least a 100 years ago, the market adapted to high taxes. Instead of government adapting to the needs of the poor by going on a freaking diet, the poor adapted to the needs of the government. By sleeping in shacks, elevated off the ground with cinder blocks. With throwaway material like wood gathered from barges. In a flood plain.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 23, 2012 09:25 AM (feFL6)

102 77...that sounds great! Have a friend who has a layout in his barn...and of course, he has all kinds of R/R memorabilia on the walls...it's pretty cool.

Posted by: billygoat at December 23, 2012 09:25 AM (6DDE+)

103 So why don't kids today get airport sets? That would be cool.

I ordered the Official TSA Groping Kit.
It comes with a real TSA two page training manual, shirt and latex gloves.
Stopping people on the street to frisk them last night was a hoot.

Posted by: Beto at December 23, 2012 09:25 AM (+I8Mq)

104 The Federal Reserve is not a govt agency.


I beg to differ. It was created by gov act. It is the government's bank, and it has a .gov internet address.


And it takes orders from the government such as buying up worthless T-bills so Obama can spend more.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 09:25 AM (53z96)

105 Good Morning All-

Vic there were emails to everyone in my office, one was collecting new teddy bears to bring to Newtown. I deleted and decided I give enough to charities I choose, Wounded Warriors, Alzheimer's, and occasionally others.
I'm glad we agree that they do not need toys and more press. Leave them alone, they need to heal w/o the frigging media in their faces every day.
Carol

Posted by: CarolT at December 23, 2012 09:26 AM (z4WKX)

106 100
86, 87

Mine are in boxes in the basement. 1/32 Strombecker and Aurora HO. If nothing else I should see what some of the stuff is worth on ebay.

Or just play with the things!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:27 AM (d6+Gd)

107 68 We followed the German tradition of opening our Xmas presents on Xmas Eve. You got to play with them for an hour or so, and then off to bed. I guess I never came to grips with the inherent conflict between that and Santa's midnight visit. This may explain a lot about the Germans.

We too follow the German tradition of putting up and decorating the Christmas Tree on Christmas Eve and then opening presents later in the evening. These presents are not from Santa, but rather from the Christkind, the traditional gift giver in Germany.

Santa (or St. Nicholaus) comes on December 6th and fills stockings hung on the mantel.

Posted by: TexBob at December 23, 2012 09:27 AM (pUOpM)

108 For me, the passion was for HO race car sets - Aurora and Tyco. Loove.

Posted by: mrp at December 23, 2012 09:27 AM (HjPtV)

109 97 USA

Australian imams are ACLU members? Who knew?

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2012 09:27 AM (sdi6R)

110 105 there were emails to everyone in my office, one was collecting new teddy bears to bring to Newtown.

What, no emails about the 446 kids shot this year in Chicago????

Posted by: TexBob at December 23, 2012 09:30 AM (pUOpM)

111 Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:27 AM (d6+Gd)

106...Strombecker...that was the good stuff!

Posted by: billygoat at December 23, 2012 09:31 AM (6DDE+)

112 For me, the passion was for HO race car sets - Aurora and Tyco. Loove.

I've got a bunch of old Aurora cars. Of course I played with them, swapped out tires, threw away the boxes, so they are probably worthless as collectibles, by we did have fun with them.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:32 AM (d6+Gd)

113 >>What, no emails about the 446 kids shot this year in Chicago????

Carol probably should not accuse her office of being racist, but....

Posted by: Mama AJ, Moron Help Desk at December 23, 2012 09:32 AM (SUKHu)

114 106 We have a group that still plays with the toy cars. Certain Aurora cars can bring some decent money. Do your homework before selling them.

Posted by: someoldguy at December 23, 2012 09:33 AM (fR7g6)

115 105 there were emails to everyone in my office, one was collecting new teddy bears to bring to Newtown.

What, no emails about the 446 kids shot this year in Chicago????


Posted by: TexBob at December 23, 2012 09:30 AM

I got a solicitation to send more 9mm to General Delivery, 24th Karlov 60623

Posted by: Beto at December 23, 2012 09:35 AM (+I8Mq)

116 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 23, 2012 09:25 AM (feFL6)



The "shotgun" style house wasn't designed so much for cheapness as ventilation. They were popular in the South because the central hallway with adjoining rooms provided for more ventilation and breezes in the days before A/C. It got its name for that central hallway that was like a big shotgun had blasted a hole through the house.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 09:35 AM (53z96)

117
Yeah you watch these toy collector shows and realize the thousands you threw away back in the day.

I had a GI Joe I tied to a tree and it was a family joke to see how many years it stayed up there long after I left home.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 23, 2012 09:35 AM (MPjT8)

118 ace left the keys to the time machine he doesn't have and won't let anyone use out again, I see.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 23, 2012 09:36 AM (Gk3SS)

119 I've got a bunch of old Aurora cars. Of course I
played with them, swapped out tires, threw away the boxes, so they are
probably worthless as collectibles, by we did have fun with them.


Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:32 AM (d6+Gd)


I still have some of that old Aurora HO car stuff up in the attic that dates back to the early 60s. The heat has probably ruined it.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 09:36 AM (53z96)

120 Or what the hell, now my computer is deciding to eat posts and then put them back up on it's own? Out, out demons of stupidity!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 23, 2012 09:37 AM (Gk3SS)

121 It got its name for that central hallway that was like a big shotgun had blasted a hole through the house.

Yup. Kitchen on one side, bedrooms on the other to get away from the heat of the stove.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 09:37 AM (yiIja)

122 Disagree all you want Vic. When was the last time time the Fed was even audited.
Do some deeper research. The Fed was created by the govt but is not ruled by the govt. The only power the govt has over the Fed is to abolish it.
It's the Fed, not Congress or the Sec Treas that decides what interest rates will be. It is the Fed therefor that is the main driver of what the economy will do. And it it the class A stockholders of the Fed that make a killing off of the manipulation of our money supply.
Try to buy even one share of Class A stock in the Fed. It exists, but you can't buy it.

Posted by: teej at December 23, 2012 09:38 AM (Gr8tW)

123 What, no emails about the 446 kids shot this year in Chicago????



Carol probably should not accuse her office of being racist, but....

A lib friend? was talking about the Viet Nam war the other night. He talked about how coming out of college he would have been a 2 lieutenant in charge of 8 black privates. He claimed that that war was one fought by the "poor"(lib code word) I wanted to punch him in the throat as I explained to him about my cousin who was a white high school grad. Volunteered after high school, just from a typical white working class family, killed in Nam as a member of the 101st.

Again, I was under strict orders from the wife.

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2012 09:38 AM (d6+Gd)

124 I still have some of that old Aurora HO car stuff up
in the attic that dates back to the early 60s. The heat has probably
ruined it.


Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 09:36 AM (53z96)
Don't be surprised if they're still OK. They built toys better back then.

Posted by: someoldguy at December 23, 2012 09:41 AM (fR7g6)

125
I still have my Marilyn Monroe blow-up doll with puckered lips. I plan on asking Santa for the new and improved Kate Upton model with gynormous hooters. Christmas day will be spent running my Lionel train, sipping Jack Daniels Black Label, playing with my '46 Erector Set, and also erecting Little Abe to the tune of Rockabilly Christmas while smooching my Kate Upton latex model with the pink merkin.

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at December 23, 2012 09:41 AM (ndqJC)

126 Yeah you watch these toy collector shows and realize the thousands you threw away back in the day.

***

My Mom threw away my brothers baseball cards
He had a bunch of Mickey Mantle rookie cards, signed by Mickey in 1965
Signed Yogi Berras, Roger Maris etc
He had several NYY team sets from 1950 to 1961 with many signatures

Posted by: Beto at December 23, 2012 09:41 AM (+I8Mq)

127 I have been a Marxist since the age of two. Get that Lionel junk off my working layout!

Mamet had a play in which Israeli partisans blew up a model train shop near Chicago because the owner was a Nazi. Interesting Kultur-schifft, Europe to US. Any Nazi train enthusiasts here ("Zey are not toys. Zey ah Mode-alss") must not have got the memo on Louis Marx and Joshua Lionel Cohen. I don't know, maybe he was a Flyer man. Flyers were different.

Fox has a photo of the "irrestible" dental assistant. Pretty, I'd say, but you can't even see her elbows.

Posted by: comatus at December 23, 2012 09:42 AM (qaVK+)

128 It's the Fed, not Congress or the Sec Treas that decides what interest
rates will be. It is the Fed therefor that is the main driver of what
the economy will do.



But every admin since 1913 has given them their marching orders and they go right along. They are what is known as an NGO which stands for Non-Government Organization but in reality a government run organization that pretends to be private.

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 09:42 AM (53z96)

129 125...Abe lives!

Posted by: billygoat at December 23, 2012 09:43 AM (6DDE+)

130 From Slate: That's all's I can take and I can't take no more...

Someone needs to tell Barack Obama—it must get particularly confusing this time of year—that his own birth is not Year One, the date around which all other events are understood. His much-noted, self-referential tic was on cringe-worthy display Friday when the president gave his eulogy for the late Sen. Daniel Inouye, who served in Congress for half a century representing Obama’s birth state of Hawaii.

Inouye was a Japanese-American war hero (he lost an arm in World War II, destroying his dream of becoming a surgeon), and as a senator he served on the Watergate committee, helped rewrite our intelligence charter after scandals, and was chairman of the Senate committee that investigated the Iran-Contra affair. It’s the kind of material any eulogist could use to give a moving sense of the man and his accomplishment. But President Barack Obama’s remarks at Inouye’s funeral service were a bizarre twirl around his own personal Kodak carousel.

Posted by: George Meanie at December 23, 2012 09:43 AM (e8kgV)

131 117
Yeah, my wife still bitches that her mom tossed all her trolls and barbies out.
She did hang on to her Beatles records though.
Found out later she has the butcher cover.

Posted by: VW Zao at December 23, 2012 09:43 AM (vWZa0)

132 The racist media only cares about dead white children when it suits the ideals of the Reich.

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 09:44 AM (NIZHJ)

133 Oh. Lionel joke. My all-time favorite Chas.Addams cartoon has a guy riding on a LIRR commuter train, looking out the window, and seeing a giant short-pantsed knee next to a mammoth Lionel transformer. Rod Serling would have taken a half-hour to tell that one.

Posted by: comatus at December 23, 2012 09:44 AM (qaVK+)

134 Bruce at 123....that's why I no longer have ANY lib "friends". I feel that they, as a lib, are crapping on everything I believe in and stand for, so why should I cozy up to, or tolerate them. Screw 'em. With a pineapple. Sideways. Wrapped in barbed wire. With nails. That includes the wife's relatives who have a sign in their kitchen that reads, :Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican". I don't set foot in that house anymore. If I did, I wouldn't be welcomed back anyway.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 23, 2012 09:46 AM (TPimP)

135 127 comatus
"Zey are not toys. Zey ah Mode-alss"


Great movie reference.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2012 09:46 AM (sdi6R)

136 My all-time favorite Chas.Addams cartoon has a guy riding on a LIRR commuter train, looking out the window, and seeing a giant short-pantsed knee next to a mammoth Lionel transformer. Rod Serling would have taken a half-hour to tell that one.

IIRC, they snuck that scene into one of the remakes of The Addams Family movies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 09:47 AM (yiIja)

137 Oops, forget one.
You really think barky orders the Fed to do something?

Heh. He, and all the other big spenders are doing exactly what the Fed wants, not the other way around. Every time the Fed buys more T-bills they (those private class A stockholders) own more of America's debt. And what do they buy it with? Money they create out of thin air.
It's the owners of that debt that we, our children, our grandchildren, ad infinitum, are in debt to.

And the borrower is slave to the lender.

Posted by: teej at December 23, 2012 09:48 AM (S08dG)

138 Found out later she has the butcher cover.

Wow, I wonder what that one's worth today. I have the Some Girls cover with Lucy on it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 09:48 AM (yiIja)

139 131 VW Zao
Found out later she has the butcher cover.


I would like to know who thought that was a good idea.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2012 09:48 AM (sdi6R)

140 I plan on opening a lithograph shop to print yard signs for liberals that will say "This house is proudly a gun free zone". Many will be bought, few put up.

Posted by: Bill at December 23, 2012 09:52 AM (xFYVW)

141 98
Once I found out Santa wasn't real, that part of Christmas lost something for me. Last year.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 23, 2012 09:22 AM

52 percent of Americans still believe in Santa Government

Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2012 09:54 AM (wwsoB)

142 Hey, Lionel had a flying airport: http://tinyurl.com/ch63uhe

Both Marx and Lionel independently developed the MRX missile system, too, twenty years before it was proposed by the government.
Could have been related to one of their presidents, Gen Medaris, being the retired head of Huntsville? Then there's that Roy Cohn connection, too.

The Marx rockets shot better, and the target cars blowed up better.

Posted by: comatus at December 23, 2012 09:55 AM (qaVK+)

143 OK y'all, is everybody up for a trip in the Wayback Machine?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dZe_cmZNDA

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 09:58 AM (yiIja)

144 South Park's Christmastime in Hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmaMfXwlq90

Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2012 09:59 AM (wwsoB)

145 142 comatus

My Lionel train set from the 60s had the helicopter that took off from the flatcar.

http://www.postwarlionel.com/cgi-bin/postwar?ITEM=3419

I spent more time playing with the helicopter than I did with the train.

Posted by: rickl at December 23, 2012 10:02 AM (sdi6R)

146 Christina Hendricks in the Broadway musical "Company"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOGYtCRMpek

Enough to make straight guys like show tunes

Posted by: kbdabear at December 23, 2012 10:04 AM (wwsoB)

147 Good morning rons, I had a Big Rail Work Train by Marx. It was the coolest present ever. My grandmother bought it for me when I got our of the Hospital when I was 5. I had open heart surgery. In 1969, a big deal.

I pray Boner is relaced, as long as it isn't another crying drunk white flag waver.

My favorite Chritmas presents ever was, My Revell high bank slot car track. Big, fast cars, sent one through the screen door when I didn't lift on the banking. And My Kawasaki 90 dirt bike.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 23, 2012 10:04 AM (3Y7RV)

148 I liked South Park's Christmastime in Hell.

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 10:05 AM (NIZHJ)

149 Does anyone know where I can get a TurNogin? Turkey stuffed with a Nog stuffed with a chicken. Sorry but I just loved that thread. It was so whimsycal...and I need more whimsy dammit!

Posted by: Guido at December 23, 2012 10:06 AM (XLuH2)

150 Does anyone know where I can get a TurNogin? Turkey stuffed with a Nog stuffed with a chicken. Sorry but I just loved that thread. It was so whimsycal...and I need more whimsy dammit!
Posted by: Guido at December 23, 2012 10:06 AM (XLuH2)

I think you special order them from the Spiral sliced honey nog store.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 23, 2012 10:07 AM (3Y7RV)

151 Have a a Merry Christmas folks.

One of my all time favorite singer/songwriters (I might be slightly biased) wrote a song called Waiting for Angels.
In it is a line "I've been waiting for angels, who are already here."
I get to spend Christmas Eve and Day with about 60 members of his family. Almost 30 of us spending the night at his house.
He and his wife, kids, MIL etc, are some of the angels who are already here for me.

Full lyrics to another of his songs is at, if I remember correctly, #358 of last night's ONT.

God bless

Posted by: teej at December 23, 2012 10:08 AM (/Bbvl)

152 The OPM money is fast running out (it's already run out in France, Greece, Italy, Spain, Ill, NYS and Ct.; in february the federal debt coffers are empty. Then what? My bet, the Repubs refuse to raise the debt limit, and Timmie G. issues bogus T-Bills which Bernanke buys. THE ULTIMATE PONZI. Spending created by issuing paper valueless paper (the bonds are legally invalid and no one other than Bernanke would buy them, hence they are valueless), which is paid for by the by printing more paper. Spending from NOTHING. Even Seinfeld couldn't have dreamt up this scenario. What value does one place on the Dollar then? Hint... starts with Z ends with O.

Posted by: Fact Checker with no bias whatsoever at December 23, 2012 10:09 AM (e8kgV)

153 teej, no disrespect intended, but you're off in conspiracy nut land.

The "owners" of the Fed are the chartered banks that have a membership interest in it. No fat cat Rothschilds or whatever are sitting around like Mr. Burns trading their secretly held Class A stock shares.

The shares you are referring to are essentially static membership interests, and are owned by the banks themselves in proportion to those interests. They aren't traded (they can't be), and they aren't increased or decreased in magnitude except in proportion to membership interest (e.g., following mergers or dissolutions).

The concept of the Fed (and it is admittedly a bad one, because it assumes the judgment of just a few men is better than the collective judgment of a market) is that, if properly structured, a reserve banking system gives very large banking families the freedom and agility needed to most efficiently carry out the Treasury Department's policy goals (which are in turn responsive to the policy goals of our Presidents).

Now, is there inherent tension between Presidents, their Treasury Departments, and the Fed about how best to carry this out? You bet. Are the officers and directors of these banks getting filthy rich off this no-lose system? Absolutely.

But you need a better understanding of how this institution works. It is a government run, semi-private, monetary reserve system that effectively takes its orders from Washington.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 23, 2012 10:09 AM (bS6uW)

154 Got to go pick up drugs. bbl

Posted by: Vic at December 23, 2012 10:10 AM (53z96)

155 "I think you order them the spiral sliced honey nog store"

See now That's what I'm talking about! Fuckin whimsey!

Posted by: Guido at December 23, 2012 10:11 AM (XLuH2)

156 http://tinyurl.com/2epvlx

Josh Grobin, O Holy Night.

I hope he spends time everyday praising Jesus for that voice.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 23, 2012 10:11 AM (3Y7RV)

157 Got to go pick up drugs. bbl

Bring enough for everyone, Vic.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 10:12 AM (yiIja)

158 One year, we pestered and pestered Mom and Dad to let us open presents on Christmas Eve. Finally they gave in.

Next morning: what a let down. Never ever did it again.

Posted by: Al at December 23, 2012 10:12 AM (V70Uh)

159 Hi Guido!
You didn't hear this from me, but when it's this late in the season and nogs are hard to come by, you can still find all you want if you take a quick ride over to the corner of Broome & Mott and look for the two guys hanging around a 76 Monte Carlo ( white with the red Landau & red interior) .

If you see the car, but the guys aren't there, poke your head into Caffe Roma. They're probably sitting under the clock in the back....

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 23, 2012 10:13 AM (53riN)

160 Yeah, the survival rate on both Marx and Lionel flying parts is relatively low. Bad boys. Bad.

My old boss stopped over at Christmastime once, saw my big holiday layout, and went on and on about how valuable old trains are now. "I had all that good Lionel stuff, and it sat in the basement and finally my mom threw it out. If I still had it, it'd be worth thousands!.

I drily pointed out that if everybody had kept their Lionels, they wouldn't sell for so much today. It was like a revelation to him. A couple years later, he became a conservative. I like to think that trains had a part in that. Marxist, heh.

Tyco's HO cars used worm drive, and lasted a lot better than Aurora. Their track design was inferior, though -- plastic snap hooks didn't last.. Neither was a patch on that wild 1/24 and 1/32 scene, where guys built the cars and motors up and went to shops with huge tracks to run them. Paid to do it, too. It was like miniature street racing. There accurred an awful cultural break between building Heathkits, winding your own motors, etc, and playing computer games. Both high-tech, sure, but, dude.

Posted by: comatus at December 23, 2012 10:13 AM (qaVK+)

161 Bring enough for everyone, Vic.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 10:12 AM (yiIja)
If it was anyone but Vic or Moma AJ I would have raised an eyebrow.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 23, 2012 10:13 AM (3Y7RV)

162 Oh gosh. We had a Lionel train set when I was a kid. The beautiful engine even blew little puffs of smoke. To this day when I think of Christmas I remember thie smell of the smoke. Kind of a piney, woodsy aroma. Funny how little things like that stick in your memory.

Posted by: Tuna at December 23, 2012 10:13 AM (M/TDA)

163 My son decided Santa isn't real this year.

He's been a perfect prince to his younger sister and has not let the cat out of the bag at all.

God bless him.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 23, 2012 10:17 AM (I2LwF)

164 Posted by: Tuna at December 23, 2012 10:13 AM (M/TDA)

I had a little bottle that came with the set, you put a drop of something in the stack. I think it was a light oil.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 23, 2012 10:17 AM (3Y7RV)

165 Never much into trains but I loved SSP cars. I invented the SSP Crash 'em Up Derby several years before Kenner.

I did have one train that I loved when I was little. It wasn't part of a set-it was a 40's style engine, about a foot and a half long, made out of metal, and probably weighed more than me (I couldn't have been more than 2 or 3). It had a big wind up key on the side and a little lever on the back and when you wound it and flipped the switch it would take off like a rocket. My mom would put pillows down along the baseboard when I played with it because it would hit the wall hard enough to put holes in it.

It was bad ass.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at December 23, 2012 10:18 AM (KAWvv)

166 I never had a train set as a kid. No real reason that I recall, I just never did.

A few years ago the Mrs. and I upgraded to a house with a three-car garage, over which is a fully completed bedroom that is now used primarily for cards and other gaming, my awful guitar playing, etc.

This thread has gotten me thinking that a dope-ass train set could be installed up there around the current setup that would be loads of fun to mess with.

Not sure what I would start with - probably pull my usual stunt of buying everything that strikes my fancy and then never using half of it, but this definitely merits investigation. I sense some serious eBay and train site surfing in my immediate future.

Posted by: Blacksheep at December 23, 2012 10:18 AM (bS6uW)

167 There accurred an awful cultural break between building Heathkits, winding your own motors, etc, and playing computer games.

There's a price to be paid when meat world competence is offshored/outsourced like that.

The collapse is the bill collector for that debt.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 23, 2012 10:18 AM (xpgUt)

168 Sure, start something. Ask anybody in O-27: Marx engines smoke better!

There was an arcade building in our downtown, oh sweet Jesus. All the big churches had professional choirs, and they sang on a shift schedule in the mezzanine. Biggest train layout you ever saw, and the kids were about four-deep around it waiting to see all the working parts. To this day when I smell light machine oil, it takes me back to Christmas there. And the fake cuckoo-clock whistles concealed in the pressed-steel station models? Real trains should sound like that.

The sidewalks downtown had steam pipes under them, so there was never any snow to walk through. But when you stepped off a curb, the slush was 14" deep, and three-buckle arctics were 12" high. See, I really do remember.

Posted by: comatus at December 23, 2012 10:20 AM (qaVK+)

169 The collapse is the bill collector for that debt.
Posted by: @PurpAv at December 23, 2012 10:18 AM (xpgUt)

Trademark that little statement. It is Right on.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 23, 2012 10:20 AM (3Y7RV)

170
My brothers and I heard about kids who got train sets at Christmas, but we never actually met one.

When you got two oranges, it was a big year.

Posted by: jwest at December 23, 2012 10:20 AM (ZDsRL)

171 164
Yup.

Posted by: Tuna at December 23, 2012 10:22 AM (M/TDA)

172 The beautiful engine even blew little puffs of smoke.

Yeah, I had a set of them, too. Big ol' Lionels. I seem to remember some tiny little 'pill' I put somewhere to make it smoke.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 23, 2012 10:22 AM (feFL6)

173 Thanks Rondinellamama! Since the tip came from you I'm sure it's the good stuff...100% nog. Not cut with anything...and I've forgotten your name already.

Posted by: Guido at December 23, 2012 10:23 AM (XLuH2)

174 >>>He's been a perfect prince to his younger sister and has not let the cat out of the bag at all.

The truth is empowering ain't it? Even to the little people. My oldest would start to get wise to our various ruses over the years. Santa, Tooth Fairy, et al.

He would eventually muster the nerve to ask me point blank. I made it a policy to never lie outright to his face, and so we would come clean on the myth of the moment, and ask him to please not blow it for his little brother.

He was always happy (if not a little sad) in knowing the truth, and always kept the secret for the "betterment of mankind".

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 23, 2012 10:23 AM (4Mv1T)

175 Now, is there inherent tension between Presidents, their Treasury
Departments, and the Fed about how best to carry this out? You bet.
Are the officers and directors of these banks getting filthy rich off
this no-lose system? Absolutely.



I believe the balance of that inherent tension was altered by TARP. Suddenly the executive branch is holding stock in the chartered banks sitting on the boards.


The Chinese don't want to buy government paper. I suspect "Big Bank" might be holding a greater amount of it than they would like.

Posted by: fluffy at December 23, 2012 10:24 AM (z9HTb)

176 The perfect Christmas gift...CNN and MSNBC, signing off forever.
Obama announcing his resignation...
The GOP finally growing a pair...
A giant brawl in the House during the State of the Union...
People marching in the streets...

Too busy fap fap fap with that Wazzu Cheerleader in a previous post.

We get the leadership we deserve.

Posted by: AgentLobos at December 23, 2012 10:26 AM (ivjWG)

177 Trademark that little statement. It is Right on.


The Avenger is wise.

Posted by: fluffy at December 23, 2012 10:26 AM (z9HTb)

178 100% nog. Not cut with anything...and I've forgotten your name already.
Posted by: Guido at December 23, 2012 10:23 AM (XLuH2)

You're welcome & if you throw the boys an extra c-note, they'll pull out the REAL good stuff: imported nog!

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 23, 2012 10:26 AM (53riN)

179 There accurred an awful cultural break between building Heathkits, winding your own motors, etc, and playing computer games.

Back in the 'early days' of computers, it was always interesting how many programmers were involved in music at an early age. A huge percentage. We swapped one keyboard for another.

I got some 'mom' pissed at me once online because I told her allowing her kid to spend hours every day playing a game on a computer was borderline child abuse in my book. He needed to learn something of value, not how to kill the most 'bad guys' with the most weapons.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 23, 2012 10:29 AM (feFL6)

180 I got some 'mom' pissed at me once online because I told her allowing her kid to spend hours every day playing a game on a computer was borderline child abuse in my book. He needed to learn something of value, not how to kill the most 'bad guys' with the most weapons.

Heh. If you really want to enrage these so-called 'moms', try suggesting that their precious little snowflakes play outside on a nice day.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 23, 2012 10:35 AM (yiIja)

181 RMama....lol! Thanks..I needed that. See you 'round the neighborhood kiddo.

Posted by: Guido at December 23, 2012 10:35 AM (XLuH2)

182 I suspect "Big Bank" might be holding a greater amount of it than they would like.

Oh yea. It's been like in Catch-22 where Milo Minderbinder steals everyone's parachutes out of the bombers and leaves a "share" certificate in his black market operation in its place.

When we need the parachute, there's only gonna be a piece of worthless paper sitting there.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 23, 2012 10:36 AM (xpgUt)

183 Noot up

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 23, 2012 10:42 AM (c2oll)

184 "Neither was a patch on that wild 1/24 and 1/32 scene, where guys built
the cars and motors up and went to shops with huge tracks to run them.
Paid to do it, too. It was like miniature street racing. "

When I visited the hobby store and spent my paper route money on HO cars, track sections, and accessories, I would also pick up one of the miniature racing car trade mags. Page after page of club track, and pay-to-race commercial track photos (all printed in glorious black and white). And then there were the how-to articles and the advertisements. I wonder what the markup was on the silver contact rails?

Posted by: mrp at December 23, 2012 10:46 AM (HjPtV)

185 My boss expained politics to me the other day. It's Bush's fault for starting 2 unfunded wars and the Tea Partiers for not compromising with Boner. He's really pissed his taxes are going up 'cause they should only go up on the "top 2%".

Idiot.

Posted by: Infidel at December 23, 2012 10:47 AM (k/0m2)

186 110What, no emails about the 446 kids shot this year in Chicago????

No, of course not, that is not in the media every day. I'm sure that people who read Drudge, etc know how many kids have been shot since The Ballerina has been Mayor!

Posted by: CarolT at December 23, 2012 10:48 AM (z4WKX)

187 185y boss expained politics to me the other day. It's Bush's fault for starting 2 unfunded wars and the Tea Partiers for not compromising with Boner. He's really pissed his taxes are going up 'cause they should only go up on the "top 2%".

Idiot.
Posted by: Infidel at December 23, 2012 10:47 AM (k/0m2)

There is an unspoken rule that you do not discuss politics in the office.
Your boss is a Obamabot!

Posted by: CarolT at December 23, 2012 10:51 AM (z4WKX)

188 Oh yea. It's been like in Catch-22 where Milo Minderbinder steals everyone's parachutes out of the bombers and leaves a "share" certificate in his black market operation in its place.

It's kind of interesting that you can make that reference to a book that I'd imagine more then half of us here have read. Because it is a book that needs to be read. Another person here can make a common biblical reference, and once again most of us will 'get it' and understand. We have a commonality in what we read, and what we believe.

I don't know what the future is going to hold when the only common book that the next generation can reference is "Heather Has Two Mommies'.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 23, 2012 10:53 AM (feFL6)

189 Do they have high speed rail sets?

Posted by: Butters at December 23, 2012 10:53 AM (NIZHJ)

190 There is an unspoken rule that you do not discuss politics in the office. Your boss is a Obamabot!

Yep.

Posted by: Infidel at December 23, 2012 10:55 AM (k/0m2)

191 LOL... Obama lied at the Inouye funeral, if he was telling the truth in his book: http://tinyurl.com/bu3wmq7

Posted by: Baldy at December 23, 2012 10:58 AM (opS9C)

192 Obama lied at the Inouye funeral, if he was telling the truth in his book

You know why police ask the same question, over and over again to a suspect at different times? To see how the story changes. Lies are much tougher to remember then the truth.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 23, 2012 11:02 AM (feFL6)

193 189 High speed rail

Lionel had a model of the Accela trains. MTH has a model of the Turbotrain. I haven't seen a true Europen TGV.

Posted by: Hef at December 23, 2012 11:08 AM (1Qpmy)

194 Personally, I love it when strippers come into the grocery store trying to pass as civilian. The shoes always give them away. The lucite sandals and the ankle tatts, too. Okay, add the shoulder tatt. And the skin-tight low-cut shirt and painted on fashion sparkly studded jeans, on Sunday morning are tells too. Hauling some schmuck's spawn around. Overly made up and gigantic man-made boobsicles threatening to pop out of containment at every dramatic shoulder twist or bending from the waist to reach the lower shelf items.

When she bent over to attend to some issue with her standing up little man-child, all bagging activity at every nearby register stopped cold. With one collective sound, there was a sharp intake of breath and a chorus of softly whispered "damn"s as her bountiful boobs and booty were expertly displayed.

Well Done!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 23, 2012 11:22 AM (BAS5M)

195 My brothers and I heard about kids who got train sets at Christmas, but we never actually met one.

When you got two oranges, it was a big year.

Word.
We loved the day after when everyone would chuck out the boxes and old stuff in the trash. Score!

Posted by: VW Zao at December 23, 2012 11:23 AM (vWZa0)

196 I inherited 20 boxes of old brass O Gauge Engines and Rolling Stock from the 1950's. With that came about 50 pounds or so of track, signals, and such. I ought to set up a nice layout in honor of my Grandfather...

Posted by: Flapjawman at December 23, 2012 11:41 AM (Dbv+Q)

197 When you got two oranges, it was a big year.

Posted by: jwest at December 23, 2012 10:20 AM (ZDsRL)

I had a childhood friend whose mother would go on and on (after a few martinis) about getting nothing but "10 cent holy cards" from her own mother for Christmas one year when she was a kid. It was during the Depression, but her mother was also a notoriously cheap old biddy (When cigarette companies used to hand out samples of cigs on the street, the old tightwad would take the bus downtown and spend the day walking up and down the main drag with a shopping bag, collecting enough free cigs to keep her in smokes for 3 months.) At first I was sympathetic - I mean, jeez, how you would feel at age 10 if you opened a present and found holy cards? After a while though, I thought, "Jeez get over it. You're in your 50's and you're still stuck on the holy cards?"

It was a dysfunctional family.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 23, 2012 11:51 AM (BStAJ)

198 I too had an O-gage Lionel as a kid in the 50's - the sleek, silver California Zephyr, the one with the "Vista-Dome" passenger cars. It ran the scenic route through the Colorado Rockies and over the Donner Pass back in the day.
Rode Amtrak this summer from San Franciso Bay Area up to Washington state on business and took the Coast Starlight, Amtrak's LA to Seattle route.
We had a long stop in Oakland andthere on the end was a refurbished Vista-Dome car, all shiney and cool, getting hauled as a private "varnish" car. My heart went giddy-up! The REAL thing, right there!
If I was a rich man.... I'd buy one and have it hauled around the country with me, 5 hookers and a cook. Turns out it doesn't cost that much to do so - Amtrak does it all the time for a connection fee and a per mile charge.

Posted by: Whitehall at December 23, 2012 12:19 PM (FmPSC)

199 25 Christmas Eve is Dec. 24, you Morons.
Posted by: Manolo at December 23, 2012 08:01 AM (PttbO) Manolo can't read and in breaking news, accuracy is only required 78.2% of the time here.

Posted by: Max Entropy at December 23, 2012 12:24 PM (NwTXA)

200
Yup. And I never knew until very recently that
we had a crash and almost a depression in 1920. But Calvin Coolidge
ignored his key economic adviser, a guy named Herbert Hoover, and did
nothing but lower taxes. An obscure phenomenon known as "the Roaring
20's" happened.



And 9 years later, Hoover was president.

Hmmm....

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 23, 2012 08:19 AM (XkWWK)

Warren G. Harding. Nothing against Cal, he's neck and neck with Reagan as the best president in the last century*, but it was Warren G Harding who made the decision to do nothing. Forever tainted by Teapot Dome (which wouldn't even make the news today if Barky's minions did the same), Harding was the man who had to clean up the majority of the messes left by fucking Wilson.
*Here's one of my favorite historical what ifs: What if Calvin Coolidge Jr. wore socks? CC Jr died in 1924 after playing tennis with no socks. He developed a blister that got infected and died. By all accounts this took a great deal of the heart out of his father, who didn't run for reelection in 1928. He'd have won in a walk if he had run. I'm not saying losing his son was the only reason Cal retired, but I suspect it played a big part. With Cal as president in 1929, they would have been no intervention following the crash, no over regulation, no activist government, hell, no Great Depression, as the economy would have bounced right back like it did when Harding made the same decision post WWI. No FDR, no nanny government, no nothing that's killed this country, none of it. Sometimes I try and imagine a world where Calvin Coolidge Jr. wore socks..
And then I cry. A lot.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 23, 2012 01:08 PM (aH+zP)






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