Photography can be completely mystifying . . .

. . . to the average person when they first undertake to practice it; it certainly was for me. Fortunately, I developed an interest in it in an era where the process of learning it is relatively cost-free compared to the days when you had to actually buy film and pay to have it processed before finding out that you really suck at it. Had I started in the age of Kodachrome, I have absolutely no doubt that I would have taken up something far less expensive as a hobby, like yacht racing or polo.

But, thanks to the advent of digital photography, if you stick your finger in front of the lens or cut off a person's head in a shot you may never have a chance to take again, you can see the results instantly, make the necessary adjustments right there on the spot and call do-over. Long gone are the days when photography was limited to a few people with endless patience, perseverance, talent and money. Virtually anyone can now afford to experiment, fail and experiment again now that "film" is essentially free and disposable.

There is a downside to the near-complete democratization of photography, of course. It's called Instagram -- the web app all the kids are crazy about these days that allows you to upload and manipulate photos of teenagers making duck-faces, adding a warm sepia tone to give them some real, retro-artistic pizzazz.

Still, the fact that photography is vastly more accessible now than it's ever been is a thing to be embraced for the simple fact that it removes a financial barrier that would otherwise discourage talented people from taking it up as a pursuit. That's not to say that photography has become cheap, by any means. Once taken up, it can become an all-consuming obsession -- the newest DSLR body, that must-have lens, lighting rigs, flashes, a good tripod, etc. When you take up photography and plunk down several hundred dollars for a camera body and two-lens kit, you'll soon discover that even though it's useful for just about any kind of photography you might need it for, it's never enough.

But, the mistake most people make is in believing that you must have the latest, greatest equipment in order to take great pictures. And that just isn't so. Great photos can be taken with a relatively cheap point-and-shoot when used within the parameters around which it was designed. The only thing you get from more expensive DSLR cameras is a larger image sensor that allows for large, poster-sized prints and a set of features that give you the control needed to be more creative. But, the average shutter bug rarely prints anything larger than 8X10, and just about any modern point-and-shoot is capable of that.

The key to becoming a good photographer, though, is a willingness to get away from the fully-automated mode that most people tend to rely on and use the various priority modes available: Aperture priority (Av), Shutter priority (Tv), Sensitivity priority (Sv) and, in some cases, Shutter/Aperture (TAv). (The somewhat counter-intuitive "T" in Shutter priority mode stands for "time", and the "v" in all modes stands for "value". I'll get more in-depth in discussing these modes a little later in the post.)

One mistake beginning photographers tend to make in choosing a camera is in assuming that the higher the number of pixels, the better the camera. For several years, camera makers have chased after more megapixels as a selling point. And, to be sure, it's nice to have lots and lots of pixels available when making large prints. Having all that image resolution makes for nice detail. But, unless you're planning to exhibit massive, art-gallery sized prints, just about any DSLR body is capable of producing wonderfully detailed photos up to 8X10 -- certainly any camera produced today is capable of that and more.

But, the crucial factor in producing better images (aside from good technique and aesthetic sensibility, of course) rests in the size of the sensor and not he number of megapixels that have been crammed into it. That's why my 6.1 megapixel Pentax K100D Super produces smoother, more detailed photos than just about any 12 megapixel point-and-shoot camera. In fact, very first DSLR camera was a 5 megapixel Olympus E20n I bought used on eBay for $130 after I discovered that the 10 megapixel Nikon point-and-shoot just wasn't capable of reliably producing the kinds of images I was trying to shoot at the time (frozen-action drag racing shots).

While the Nikon offered a setting that allowed for frozen-action photos (an "Action" or "Sports" mode indicated by a depiction of a running human figure on the mode dial), it's shortcoming -- as is the case with most point-and-shoot cameras -- was in its slow reaction time, known as shutter lag. It's damn near impossible to capture a drag racer launching at the starting line when there's half a second between the time you press the shutter button and the time the shutter actually trips. By then, the car is typically well down the track and has settled back onto all four wheels after its initial wheel-stand, and there's no interesting detail like the wrinkled sidewalls on the rear tires that occurs when accelerating off the starting line, so you end up with nothing more than a picture of a car on a drag strip. And that's not too compelling.

With DSLR cameras, you have near-instantaneous shutter response so that the only real challenge is to accurately time the launch. That's not easy to do at first, but with some practice, you tend to develop a pretty good sense for it and can nail the shot just about every time. And this is where the Shutter priority (Tv) mode is useful, as that's the best way to ensure that you freeze the action. In Tv mode, you set the desired shutter speed (I usually go with 1/500th of a second or higher for drag racing) and the camera automatically adjusts the aperture setting and light sensitivity to get the proper exposure for the light conditions. A faster shutter speed will freeze faster action (and also help to eliminate the blur caused from camera-shake).

You can also use shutter priority to create other effects in action shots. For example, if you're pretty good at panning (following the subject and locking focus on it), you can capture the sense of action by having the subject in sharp focus while the background exhibits motion blur. That, to me at least, is considerably more challenging than simply freezing the action. Other photographers have much better panning technique than I have, but with some practice, I've been able to achieve it on occasion.

Now, if you're mostly interested in still photography, you can use the Aperture priority mode to create effects to help you isolate the subject from the background, or alternatively capture the entire scene in sharp focus by manipulating the size of the lens's aperture -- or the size of the opening through which light passes to the sensor. Aperture priority photography can be confusing at first as the settings would seem to be the exact opposite of what you'd expect; the higher the number on the aperture setting (commonly referred to as f-stops), the smaller the aperture.

For example, my favorite lens at the moment is my Pentax SMC FA 50mm f/1.4 auto-focus prime lens. The "f/1.4" indicates the maximum aperture setting for the lens is 1.4 -- meaning that the aperture is wide-open. Alternatively, the minimum aperture setting f/22 -- which is the smallest possible opening the aperture can be set to. The purpose of manipulating the aperture is to control the amount of light that passes through the lens to the camera's image sensor.

Also, by manipulating the camera's aperture setting, you can control the depth of field in your images. That's just photography jargon for the size of the area in the image that is in focus as opposed to the area that is blurred -- often referred to as the focal plane. The key thing to remember in that regard is that the wider the aperture setting (i.e., the lower the f-stop number), the shallower the depth of field. For example, a shot of a flower taken with an aperture value of f/1.4 will have have the flower itself (or a small area of it) in sharp focus while the rest is blurred and extremely soft. On the other hand, if you photograph a flower with a higher aperture value, more of the total area of the image will be in focus and the entire image will be more detailed. Landscapes typically have greater depth of field than portraits and closeups.

That can be useful for a number of reasons -- for instance, it can be used to isolate a subject from a cluttered or bland background, or alternatively, to lend a sort of dreamy quality to the shot. Some photographers refer to that dreamy quality of a blurred background as "bokeh" while others consider the term pretentious twaddle and refer to it simply as "blurred background". I actually like the term, myself, because I'm pretentious and I like the notion of having a word to describe the aesthetic quality of the blur. It's a quality that makes some lenses preferable to others as some lenses render a clunky or "busy" kind of blur while others lend a more smooth, creamy-looking appearance to the background.

When shooting in Aperture priority mode (again, Av), you choose the aperture value -- in the case of the lens I'm currently using most frequently, anywhere from f/1.4 to f/22 -- and the camera will adjust the shutter speed and the light sensitivity to ensure proper exposure. As you've no doubt begun to put together by now, the three different values (Aperture, Shutter and Sensitivity) are all interlinked in producing proper exposures. Essentially, they are all means by which you control the amount of light that passes through to the image sensor.

The final common priority mode available on DSLR cameras (and some point-and-shoots) is Sensitivity, which as the nomenclature suggests, determines the light sensitivity of the image sensor. The value of the sensitivity is referred to as the ISO setting; the lower the ISO setting, the lower the light sensitivity. On a clear, bright, sunny day you typically want to shoot at a low ISO setting to avoid overexposing the image: ISO 100, or so. Though, you may want to bump it up just a bit in order to allow the camera to adjust the shutter speed higher in order to capture and freeze objects in motion.

Higher ISO settings, however, will allow you to capture images in low-light and nighttime conditions without using flash. But, while the ability to capture images in extremely low light is awfully handy at times (especially if you're like me and hate using flash unless it's absolutely necessary), it does have its drawbacks. As is the case in film photography, using a higher sensitivity setting has a tendency to obscure detail in images with digital noise -- the functional equivalent of "graininess" in highly sensitive film. Unfortunately, though, where film grain can often lend a nice effect to photographs, digital noise tends to be a lot less aesthetically pleasing.

On the other hand, you can bump up the camera's ISO setting in low light situations so as to ensure that the camera gets the proper exposure while the camera adjusts its shutter speed high enough to avoid the blur caused by camera shake -- a very common problem in photos shot hand-held in low light. Unless you're using a camera with a good shake-reduction system, it's difficult to take sharp photos with a shutter speed of less than 1/50th of a second. That may sound like a very short amount of time, but unless you have rock-steady hands or use a tripod, trying to capture a sharp image with a any slower a shutter value will likely result in blurred and/or streaked images as a result of almost imperceptible movement in your hands upon triggering the shutter button. That's just how it is.

The great thing about the pace of innovation in digital photography is that you can get a used DSLR with all of the above capabilities (some better than others, obviously) for a song. The Pentax K100D Super I mentioned above cost me a paltry $100 -- albeit in very used condition. While it's not exactly a world-beater in low-light conditions, in good light it produces some absolutely wonderful images. The same can be said of my current favorite, the Pentax K20D, which I got in beautiful condition for a whopping $250. Not too shabby for a camera that listed at over $1300 when it was released just a few years ago.

So, if you're on a budget and would like to have a nice DSLR as a starter camera, there are some wonderful bargains to be found that will enable you to learn without sending you deep into hock. If you don't quite trust eBay or any of the other auction sites, you can always keep an eye on your local Craigslist or online classifieds for deals on cameras that you can actually hold in your hands and examine before taking the plunge.

Fair warning: Once you've purchased a camera body and a kit lens, if you find that you're taking a shine to photography, you've only just begun spending your hard-earned cash. Suddenly, you'll find yourself coveting lenses, lenses and still more lenses. My first new DSLR purchase was the Pentax K-x two-lens kit with 18-55mm and 50-200mm zooms. It took about a week before I decided that I needed a longer zoom lens, at which point I went out and purchased a 70-300mm zoom in order to get better shots of birds on the wing.

And if you think camera bodies can be expensive, you'll want to be sure you're sitting down when you start pricing lenses, which often sell for multiple thousands of dollars. The good news, though, is that you don't really have to spend a lot of money to get a lens that produces good photos. The 70-300mm zoom I bought set me back a little over $200, tax-included, and I've managed to capture some wonderful, detailed images with it. The key is in knowing the lens's limitations and operating within them.

Also, the availability of cheap, high-quality glass is one of the reasons I decided to make my first new DSLR purchase a Pentax. While it's a very small fry in the imaging industry, Pentax carries the benefit of being compatible with every lens ever made to fit Pentax cameras, going back to its early film days. So there are literally millions of second-hand lenses on the market that can be had insanely cheap. And we're not talking about flimsy plastic junk, but high quality, well-constructed lenses with absolutely wonderful optics.

For example, you can buy an SMC (super multi-coated) Pentax 50mm f/2 prime lens on eBay for well under $50 at any time. And if you don't mind the lack of auto-focus and electronic aperture control contacts, you can use it to make some of the sharpest images you'll ever see with a wonderful, dreamy quality to the "bokeh". And, if you're like me, once you get a taste of using a nice prime lens (that is, a non-zoom, fixed focal-length lens), you'll fall in love.

If you should give photography a try and decide that you enjoy it enough to pursue it seriously, you'll soon learn that there's nothing quite like shooting with a good, high-quality prime lens. And the fact is, there's no better way to learn photography than using an old, manual-focus prime lens. You'll discover that it's better to get closer to the subject you're shooting than zooming in on it from a couple-hundred feet away, or more. As one photographer whose name I can't recall once put it, "If your photos aren't good enough, you're not standing close enough." And, as others have said, it's always best to "zoom with your feet."

As I mentioned above, there is a ridiculous amount of K-mount (Pentax) lenses available on the market to be had dirt cheap. Just a few weeks ago, I picked up four Sears-brand K-mount lenses (a 50mm f/2, a 135mm f/2.8, an 80-200mm f/4 manual zoom and a 28-85mm f/3.5-4.5 zoom) for a total of $50 -- including the camera. They're not the greatest lenses ever made, to be sure. But, they are capable of producing stellar images in practiced hands.

Of course, you'll want to bear in mind that I'm far from what anyone would call a great photographer. I've only been at it for a few years, starting in the spring of 2009 with a Canon Power Shot point-and-shoot I borrowed from my father to take photos at a drag strip in Sikeston, MO. But, in that short period of time, I've learned a great deal -- albeit nowhere near everything I need to know. And in that time, I've discovered how therapeutic it is to have an outlet that takes me away from all the crap I tend to dwell on when writing for my own blog, as well as the personal challenges that arise in day-to-day life.

In fact, I have an entire series of photos called "Front Porch Photography" that I started when I was taking care of my mother in her final days and wasn't able to stray more than a few hundred feet from the house in the event of an emergency, or to simply be on hand to give her meds to keep her comfortable. Having some kind of outlet to take my mind off the sadness was absolutely essential to my own mental health.

And, as the Chief Ewok has been keen to point out, conservatives have been terribly absent in the area of cultural pursuits for decades now, to the point where we have all but conceded that crucial part of the American scene to the left. Maybe photography isn't exactly what he's talking about; it's certainly less influential that movies, television and literature. Still, it is an avocation that contributes to the overall culture in a small but significant way, and it doesn't hurt to engage that culture wherever you can. I have established friendships with liberals who come to my blog because they appreciate my photography. And, while I'm hesitant to claim the mantle myself, others have referred to me as an artist -- which is truly flattering, and certainly can't hurt when it comes to being a conservative voice actively engaged in cultural pursuits.

Finally, I'd like to thank Ace and the cobs for giving me yet another opportunity to showcase my talents (for lack of a better term) on the single best conservative blog on the internet. And I hope I haven't irretrievably bored the 'Rons & 'Ettes with this well-nigh interminable post/tutorial. If any of you have found this useful in any way and would like to contact me for whatever reason, you can do so at one of the email addresses listed in the sidebar over at my blog, The Damn Dirty RINO.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at 07:03 PM



Comments

1 I like pie.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Considering waiting until after March Madness. at December 18, 2012 07:06 PM (Gk3SS)

2 Best movie I've seen in a while.

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2012 07:06 PM (FcR7P)

3 I hated that movie too...

Posted by: James Madison at December 18, 2012 07:08 PM (T//x+)

4 So did the publisher insist it be split into three separate books?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 18, 2012 07:09 PM (0q2P7)

5 has the burning started yet?

Posted by: Burney McBurnstein at December 18, 2012 07:09 PM (q177U)

6 Wait. This post has nothing to do with ladyparts?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2012 07:09 PM (QKKT0)

7 Ditto.

Posted by: Taggart at December 18, 2012 07:09 PM (QKKT0)

8

Did I click on some alternative world version of Instapundit?

You know, where he still is a photo geek, but is way, WAAAY more wordy?

Posted by: imp at December 18, 2012 07:10 PM (UaxA0)

9
"There is a downside to the near-complete democratization of photography, of course. It's called Instagram -- the web app all the kids are crazy about these days..."

Instagram?
Is that the site that announced today that any photos that are downloaded there...are considered their property?
And that they are free to sell them.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2012 07:12 PM (K4wCe)

10 What the shit? I was going to read and then post something about getting my wife some a flash since she's taken to photography recently, but it just kept going. Anyway, got my wife a Sigma flash for the Pentax kx. Hopefully she figures it out.

Posted by: Xander Crews at December 18, 2012 07:12 PM (24UOj)

11 You can get pretty good quality with a digital point 'n' shoot.

I have made the leap to 'boat owner', as it were.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 07:12 PM (4pSIn)

12 A RINO is a Republican who does not support school prayer.

Posted by: Traditionalist at December 18, 2012 07:12 PM (xocZy)

13 Was? A post about photography and no cheerleader or Blake Lively pics?

What is this blog coming to?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 18, 2012 07:13 PM (35f4K)

14 Whoah, it's like you made a movie about photography and Ace reviewed it.

Posted by: Sarahw at December 18, 2012 07:14 PM (LYwCh)

15
quality-wise, to a pro, just how good of a photo (image) can you get with your average smartphone compared to film?

I think my LG phone has like a 3MP camera, but how does it compare to film? Can I fool a pro?

Posted by: soothsayer at December 18, 2012 07:15 PM (FC8Yl)

16 I still have my old pinhole camera in the closet.

Learn the basics with low tech first.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 18, 2012 07:15 PM (YgF3N)

17 If you don't quite trust eBay or any of the other auction sites, you can always keep an eye on your local Craigslist

That's supposed to be a joke, right?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 18, 2012 07:15 PM (QKKT0)

18 Holy shit, so, did we like the movie?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 18, 2012 07:15 PM (GEICT)

19 A RINO is a Republican who does not support school prayer.

As long as the prayer was written by Martin Luther or Jan Hus.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 07:16 PM (4pSIn)

20 "And, as the Chief Ewok has been keen to point out, conservatives have been terribly absent in the area of cultural pursuits for decades now, to the point where we have all but conceded that crucial part of the American scene to the left."

Bah. Clearly the way to change the country is to stick our heads in the dirt and scream mindlessly instead of, you know. Worming our way into the culture proactively. That's a silly idea. Everybody hates movies, art, television, books, music and photography. Those all went out with that silly "horseless carriage" fad.


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I've always been a fan of your asstrophotography, Walt.

Posted by: CAC at December 18, 2012 07:17 PM (kH1+r)

21 Cameras have come a long way since pterodactyls were pecking images on stone tablets.

Posted by: Fred Flintstone at December 18, 2012 07:17 PM (YgF3N)

22 Dammit, I don't come to AoS to learn stuff. But I did and thank you.

Posted by: Robin Banks at December 18, 2012 07:18 PM (EjsOc)

23 We need a LIB mascot like 'Little Burney.'

"Little Burney says skip your taxes this year!"

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 18, 2012 07:20 PM (q177U)

24 Long pieces on Camaros are a breath of fresh air.

Thanks.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 18, 2012 07:20 PM (aZ6ew)

25 CAC! I was actually wondering about you earlier. Couldn't remember seeing you around recently. How goes life?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 18, 2012 07:21 PM (GEICT)

26 I kinda liked it!

Posted by: Fawn Leibowitz at December 18, 2012 07:22 PM (KZi9D)

27 CAC! I was actually wondering about you earlier. Couldn't remember seeing you around recently. How goes life?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 18, 2012 07:21 PM (GEICT)

Projects.
Gall bladder disease.
Between the two relaxing with the Missus.

You?

Posted by: CAC at December 18, 2012 07:22 PM (kH1+r)

28 PUT that fire extinguisher down! Fire extinguishers are for tax payers.

Posted by: L'il Burney at December 18, 2012 07:23 PM (4pSIn)

29 You should teach an AOS photography class.

I'd sign up.

I have a little digital camera that I love (Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ but it's so easy to use the programmed settings that I've never leaned to use it properly. One glitch, however is in the size of the sensor. http://bit.ly/XGG5lz

I've taken some cool photos, and LOVE to take photos, but don't know how to use the instrument properly.

I really do need to sign up for a course. I think I would enjoy it so much more.

BTW, that landscape photo is spectacular.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:24 PM (piMMO)

30 And then instagram can take your pics and sell them without your permission. Hooray!


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 07:25 PM (HDgX3)

31


Cliff Notes: The Puppy Pict is Adorable


*nice photos, seriously

Posted by: beach imagery at December 18, 2012 07:26 PM (LpQbZ)

32 Can we use our cameras to take pics of the burning? I'm in for that.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 07:26 PM (HDgX3)

33 Thanks, you Damn Dirty [strike]ape[/strike] RINO ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 18, 2012 07:26 PM (gh+mp)

34 I was doing some truly stunning work in the vein of Moonrise Hernandez until Hernandez's mom found out.

Posted by: Hairy Reed at December 18, 2012 07:26 PM (QKKT0)

35 Wow!

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at December 18, 2012 07:27 PM (8lB0x)

36 So did Howard Shore do the sound track?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 18, 2012 07:27 PM (0q2P7)

37 Can we use our cameras to take pics of the burning? I'm in for that.

That's why you need to read this article. Otherwise, the glare from the flames will overwhelm the sensor and everything else will be under exposed.

Posted by: fluffy, LiB at December 18, 2012 07:28 PM (4pSIn)

38 I like turtles.

Posted by: Gerry at December 18, 2012 07:28 PM (DJIo7)

39 Oh, I have so many slrs! Each time they got smaller, I bought a new one to take with me on vacation. So, I have my old Minolta that I bought in 1979. I dug it out about 12 years ago to use for infrared photog. Then I have 3 point and shoots that fit in my pocket. Then I bought an early Kodak digital camera that cost a fortune. Then I bought a cheap chinese med format camera and a couple of Holgas. Then I bought a Nikon. I then lost all interest in photograpy and time passed me by. At least the old Kodak digital still works in a pinch.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 18, 2012 07:29 PM (jWwDJ)

40 >>>Thanks, you Damn Dirty [strike]ape[/strike] RINO ...

Haha, Adriane cant [strike]

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 18, 2012 07:29 PM (0q2P7)

41 yeah DDR, and don't forget about all the cashola you can dump on accessories, filters, camera bags/backpacks, flash and flash accessories, brackets and diffusers, etc. And if you get into macro you're doomed again, hehe. So just take what gear you've got and just go out and shoot pictures already. Having stuff is nice (and can be helpful), but it doesn't make you a photographer - actually taking pictures gets you on that path.

Posted by: dissent555 at December 18, 2012 07:29 PM (yR6A1)

42 Hey, I thought only Ace was allowed to post movie reviews.

Posted by: JDTAY at December 18, 2012 07:29 PM (a0nis)

43 "...an entire series of photos called 'Front Porch Photography' that I started when I was taking care of my mother in her final days and wasn't able to stray more than a few hundred feet from the house...."

Wow.
Talk about the possibility of redemptive grace during suffering --- very inspiring.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 18, 2012 07:30 PM (C8mVl)

44 27 Projects.
Gall bladder disease.
Between the two relaxing with the Missy's.

You?
Posted by: CAC at December 18, 2012 07:22 PM (kH1+r)



Alive and bitching. Wife's goin through some medical crap. But such is life. 5 1/2 yr old daughter had epic dance recital Sat. 4 performances in 2 shows. 2 1/2 yr old daughter is....insane. Funny, but utterly insane.


Sorry to hear about the gall bladder. I've had two friends have theirs removed. Pretty bad pain before surgery, almost instant relief after.

Hope you feel better. And enjoy being married!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 18, 2012 07:30 PM (GEICT)

45 I miss the dark room.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 18, 2012 07:32 PM (jWwDJ)

46 Google A Arthur Fisher photography. His stuff is unbelievable. I use him for Christmas gifts all the time.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at December 18, 2012 07:32 PM (oshol)

47 @15

-- You can get pretty decent shots out of a phone camera, but you'd have to be in really good light and avoid direct sunlight since there's no coating on the lens. You'd have a lot of flare and it would rob the contrast. There was a guy at the last Olympics who shot strictly with an iPhone.

@ 17 -- You'd want to meet them in a public place, with the camera in-hand, obviously. That's how I managed to get four lenses and a camera for fiddy bones.

@ 20 -- I really need to do more work along those lines!

@ 22 -- Happy to oblige!

@ 29
-- I'd be more than happy to do something along those lines, or just answer any questions you might have. Those Panasonic Lumix cameras are really nice. At one time, they made a DSLR that used Pentax K-mount lenses, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 07:34 PM (m0h0I)

48 I really appreciated this article. I bought a fairly expensive Olympus to take to England this summer because my old Sony has that lag which is SO frustrating when trying to photograph action shots.

Unfortunately, the camera had the video button right next to the zoom button, so over half of my pictures were videos! AAARGH!

I really haven't practiced with my camera since I got home and your post inspired me to get busy and do that. I would love to take good pictures, but the ones which I do take are accidental.

I would recommend using the zoom for one thing: taking pictures of pets who are bad about avoiding the camera when they see you shooting. I did get a good shot of my dog by going way out in the back yard and then using the zoom to take a full-front portrait. I would never have been able to do that close to her.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 07:35 PM (GoIUi)

49 I took some long exposure pictures of Comet Hyakutake back in 1995. I think I used ISO1600 film in my Pentax K1000. I still have the camera and the negatives. Hey - get off my lawn!

Posted by: Chris M at December 18, 2012 07:35 PM (4lyMJ)

50

I don't know why, but every pict I take of TFG has red- eye.


Posted by: Slytherin at December 18, 2012 07:36 PM (LpQbZ)

51 Love the post!
Long time lurker moron, but a few of my PShops have been up here--Quit teh Wall Street 5 yrs ago and hung out the shingle as a photographer.
My work is here: www.eastviewphotography.com, CAC has seen it and he's stuck around as a like on my FB page, www.facebook.com/eastviewphoto

Plenty of photos from Hoboken after Sandy--got linked on Instapundit (yay!)

I started out with a Canon 30D (I still use it at times) and bought as I needed it, never on credit. I wanted everything and still do, gear-wise. Someday I'll have the $50k Hassy.

Shoot, shoot some more and keep shooting--digital is free and easy-- learning from frame to frame is the trick.

Posted by: Johnny I at December 18, 2012 07:37 PM (WPA+a)

52 My 16 yr old daughter picked up a Minolta slr for $40. She is doing bw and will be developing her first roll soon at her school. I will be making a dark room at some point in the near future for her.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 07:37 PM (VMcEw)

53 I thought Brian Dennehy brought a new depth to his role in this.

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 07:38 PM (ay6+/)

54 -- I'd be more than happy to do something along those lines, or just answer any questions you might have. Those Panasonic Lumix cameras are really nice. At one time, they made a DSLR that used Pentax K-mount lenses, if I'm not mistaken.


****

I'm neither a gamer nor a chess player, so those regular threads don't appeal to me, but a semi-regular photo thread sure would!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:39 PM (piMMO)

55 I'm not much of a photographer but I like having camera equipment. I bring it on hikes or vacations and such.

One of my favourite american writers, Thomas Sowell, is also a fantastic photographer.
If you're a Sowell fan, check out his artistic side, his photos are truly stunning.
URL:
http://picasaweb.google.com/sowell.hoover/PhotographsByThomasSowell#

Posted by: fb at December 18, 2012 07:39 PM (JVEmw)

56 I really enjoyed bouncing around in front of a digital camera once.... good times, good times

Posted by: Kate Upton at December 18, 2012 07:40 PM (/jHWN)

57 I don't know why, but every pict I take of TFG has red- eye.

****

Yes you do.

You know why.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:40 PM (piMMO)

58 So, cheap-ass DSLR cameras, are there any?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 18, 2012 07:41 PM (bxiXv)

59 >>>>52 My 16 yr old daughter picked up a Minolta slr for $40. She is doing bw and will be developing her first roll soon at her school. I will be making a dark room at some point in the near future for her.

Posted by: sTevo


Tell her to try Ilford SX200. It's infared like without all the hassle. Alot of fun.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 18, 2012 07:41 PM (jWwDJ)

60 Learned on a Pentax K-1000, transitioned to an EOS Elan II, then to a Digital Rebel, now on a T3i. Used it with flash off (and with zoom lens on) at son's Christmas show to get shots from deep in the audience that folks in the front row weren't getting.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at December 18, 2012 07:41 PM (BvTwT)

61 But seriously, fine post. I am loving the new blood at the HQ. Who knew so many morons could operate a keyboard and spell and stuff?

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 07:41 PM (ay6+/)

62


Pffttt...

You guys need a camera.

Posted by: Man Ray at December 18, 2012 07:42 PM (LpQbZ)

63
Nice work...and good article, DamnDirtyRino.
Thanks.
I especially liked the low-light shot of the two smoke stacks at the lumber yard.
But they are all really good.

Posted by: wheatie at December 18, 2012 07:42 PM (K4wCe)

64 Geez, not seen this dense a piece of instruction since Combat Camera school.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 07:42 PM (QdVWw)

65 I remember doing BW development in high school photography class in '87. Later, I set up a dark room in my mom's laundry room, complete with the dim red light bulb. My most vivid memory from all that, was the time I splashed undiluted stop-bath in my left eye. Ouch.

Posted by: Chris M at December 18, 2012 07:42 PM (4lyMJ)

66 Shep Smith is now speaking to the new Instgram terms in past-tense.

They have backed off, a little.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:43 PM (piMMO)

67 Damn its cold outside.

Posted by: Scott Walker fan at December 18, 2012 07:43 PM (OOW33)

68 DDDRino, I am looking for a compact interchangeable digital with an available reversing ring? Any ideas.

Posted by: Jean at December 18, 2012 07:43 PM (EBBBm)

69 I broke a canon power shot digital camera a couple years back. The lens assembly glue melted when I hit it with too much rubbing alcohol. We decided to see what we could do with it without the lens on it.

It turns out to be a super-macro with about a one micron depth of field. I took a picture of a lady bug and we discovered that it captured the image of a mite on the false eye of the lady bug.

We call the broken camera the bug camera.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 07:44 PM (VMcEw)

70 @ 43 -- Thank you. It was a complete life-saver for me. Seeing the world immediately around me through viewfinder gave me a whole new perspective at times when I really needed one.

@ 48 -- I'm glad you enjoyed it and hope you find it useful in the future.

@ 51 -- Exactly right. You can't get better unless you shoot a bunch of crap. And, even when you do get better, you're still going to shoot a bunch of crap. But, there'll at least be a gem or two in the pile.

@ 52 -- I hope your daughter falls in love with it. I have an old K1000 body, as well as a Minolta Maxxum that I've yet to put through the paces. I keep telling myself I'm going to do it, but have never gotten around to it.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 07:45 PM (m0h0I)

71 Is the bug camera just the exposed CCD?

Posted by: Chris M at December 18, 2012 07:46 PM (4lyMJ)

72 No comments about the "less aesthetically pleasing" photograph?

Not one?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:46 PM (piMMO)

73 I wouldn't mind a weekly photography feature either. Something with moron sized pieces please, though. I think the Strobist 101 is a good template - basics covered, terms defined, etc. http://preview.tinyurl.com/lv9kd

Posted by: Xander Crews at December 18, 2012 07:47 PM (24UOj)

74 57 I don't know why, but every pict I take of TFG has red- eye. **** Yes you do. You know why.

------------

Worcestershire sauce as embalming fluid again?

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at December 18, 2012 07:47 PM (NmR1a)

75 Macro mode. If I have that, I am good to go. Seems like I am always trying to figure out how to get close-up shots of expensive stuff I'm trying to sell. Guns, banjos, guitars. Great pictures sell stuff over the 'net.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 07:47 PM (4Mv1T)

76 I've got an old 35 mm. Minolta X-700 that I still use. The things 20+ years old but it still takes amazing pictures.

Posted by: Bosk at December 18, 2012 07:50 PM (n2K+4)

77 #75 Yes, that is true. I have noticed that the better my pictures are, the better things sell.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 07:50 PM (GoIUi)

78 Also, Instagram can go DIAF. I don't care about their use of images posted there so much as the dumbass filter trend they started. My wife insists on ruining every photo she takes with one filter or another.

Posted by: Xander Crews at December 18, 2012 07:50 PM (24UOj)

79 Apropos of nothing, the firearms counter at Wally World was three deep in people waiting for their instant check.

Obama is the the best firearms salesman ever.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 18, 2012 07:50 PM (QupBk)

80 DDR, I could look at those Front Porch photos all day.

I particularly love the BandW photo of the horses.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:50 PM (piMMO)

81 I wonder how many eyes started glazing over here?

I actually take photos professionally, and have been in the biz to some degree since the early 80's, as a hobby even longer. Folks who grew up digital have no idea. I had a company with an E6 processor and a studio with guys who could really take photos (I'm still learning), and kodak was literally down the street for other film types. Now you just fake it.

As you too, on vacation I show folks how to get off of the little green square when taking shots, almost instant improvement from the first shot on.

It's hard to believe that these little PS cameras pack the kind of processing power they do, and amazing shots can be achieved with any of them.

My current kick is I resurrected my old Nikkor lenses on my Canon using an adapter - that old glass was pretty nice, and an f1.4 lens today ain't cheap! Seriously, it ain't that hard to focus the old fashioned way.

Even better, you can get a friggin' $50 bubble jet printer that makes incredible prints! Of course mine cost a lot more and can print large format. My old firm we spent like $20k on a kodak dye sub printer with a fraction of the quality of today's printers.

And the love/hate relationship with technology marches on.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 18, 2012 07:51 PM (Qxdfp)

82 or cut off a person's head
I would muchly like to subscribe to your newsletter.

BTW, TL;DNR.

Posted by: mujahadeen charlie at December 18, 2012 07:52 PM (jPVBi)

83 Damn, this is a subject that I am interested in, but maybe this post should have been broken into installments.

Posted by: Ace's unofficial editor at December 18, 2012 07:52 PM (0PiQ4)

84 66 Shep Smith is now speaking to the new Instgram terms in past-tense.

They have backed off, a little.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:43 PM (piMMO)
---
Yeah, but they tipped their hand.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 18, 2012 07:52 PM (Y5I9o)

85 Oh--
One last thing--digital SLR bodies are basically the equivalent of computer towers, just chips & bits.
Buy a used body from two generations back--CHEAP. Three--CHEAPER.
Spend the money on the glass. Lenses make the difference.
Canon L glass on my 30d is better than a kit lens on a 1DX ($8k).

Posted by: Johnny I at December 18, 2012 07:52 PM (WPA+a)

86 Believe me, homemade movies can sometimes not work out for the best.

Posted by: zombie bob crane at December 18, 2012 07:53 PM (jPVBi)

87 I met a guy who makes his living doing BnW photography and I asked him if he ever used digital. He called me a blasphemer and said he needed to stick to the original art form. This was back in the 3mp days.

I asked him is he had a GPS to navigate with. He said yes. I called him a hypocrite for not using paper maps.

He then said, you don't even know me, get off my case. I couldn't stop laughing.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 07:53 PM (VMcEw)

88 Yeah, but they tipped their hand.


****


Yes, and they hardly apologized. They blamed everyone else for "misunderstanding" their intent.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:53 PM (piMMO)

89 Just to expand on my question about cheap-ass DSLR cameras, I have a non-DSLR Sony that is kind of okay (in fact it has a lot of nice features) but the quality, especially close-ups and macro, is just Not Good Enough for what I want to do (not very good at coping with light, slight graininess).

I have had some success at making fake HDR photos by manipulating the gamma levels and color slightly in one photo several different ways and then mating them together - but it's still got the failings of the original.

I would like to be able to do better, but I just can't afford a high-end camera and probably won't for a while. I'm not setting a number because I am just trying to find out where the bottom of the DSLR-good CCD range is.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 18, 2012 07:54 PM (bxiXv)

90 How do you photogs feel about photoshopping?

To me, it feels like cheating.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 07:54 PM (piMMO)

91 Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 07:44 PM (VMcEw)

Please to post link to mite-on-bug-lash photo.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 18, 2012 07:54 PM (GsoHv)

92 In a spat with a liberal on Facebook about the breakdown of American culture. I threw a G.K. Chesterton quote at her. She shut up.

Posted by: Jmel at December 18, 2012 07:56 PM (9tSXa)

93 The dog and girl in "Front Porch Photography" is fun.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 18, 2012 07:56 PM (GsoHv)

94 I know the post is excruciatingly long, but I figured my window of opportunity was fairly limited since Ace is only going to be on vacation for a week. So, I thought it best to get the big basic stuff crammed into a single post and revisit the subject as warranted/allowed.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 07:56 PM (m0h0I)

95 >>>How do you photogs feel about photoshopping?
To me, it feels like cheating.

Depends on what you're photoshopping. I photoshopped the crap out of my headshot on my commercial website profile picture.

I now look young as hell!!!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 07:57 PM (4Mv1T)

96 Can't you rent lenses?

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 07:57 PM (XDC0v)

97

Iowahawk would like this series:

accelerating off the starting line

Posted by: beach hawk at December 18, 2012 07:57 PM (LpQbZ)

98 Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 07:44 PM (VMcEw)

Please to post link to mite-on-bug-lash photo.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I will dig it up and put it on my beer blog. It might take a few.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 07:58 PM (VMcEw)

99
I like Chesterton.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 07:58 PM (V70Uh)

100 No comments about the "less aesthetically pleasing" photograph?

I was still trying to figure out how he snapped the picture with his other hand.

Posted by: t-bird at December 18, 2012 07:58 PM (FcR7P)

101 Sony use to subsidize a black room near me. It was in a not great part of town that had at one time been sort of ritzy. IOW, big old mansions. In was in a community theater and the dark room was under the stage. The only drawback was that you had to be sort of quiet when they were performing. The plays they did were all these Mexican commie revolutionary shit. There was always gunfire and a march of the campesarios. Andale! Andale! It was a hoot!

Posted by: Walkers! at December 18, 2012 07:59 PM (jWwDJ)

102 Photography? How does it work?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 18, 2012 08:00 PM (SkyIE)

103 My wife bought a $1500 camera. I swear I see no difference in her pics vs. the pics I take on my iphone.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 08:00 PM (HDgX3)

104 Depends on what you mean by Photoshopping.

If its to smooth out someone's complexion no problem. Deliberate manipulation so it looks like you have Kate Upton's body, big problem. One is clean-up while the other is a lie.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 08:01 PM (QdVWw)

105 How do you photogs feel about photoshopping? To me, it feels like cheating.

Are you trying to cheat? Or just give it a little enhancement?

I post-process with iPhoto. I want to make my photos look better, not look like something they are not. Tone down glare, make the blue sky a little bluer, make the colors of a butterfly 'pop'

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 08:01 PM (4pSIn)

106 ace,
I loved that movie!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 18, 2012 08:03 PM (X/+QT)

107
little known fact: new phones have great lenses.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 08:03 PM (V70Uh)

108 Another thing you could point out is that if you need a super-fast lens for a specific sporting event for your kids or other limited time frame, most serious camera stores will rent them.

Much cheaper than dropping $6K (used) or $10K (new) for a 300mm f2.8 or better lens that is so heavy and unwieldy that you'll never want to take it anywhere, unless you do a lot of wildlife photography.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 18, 2012 08:03 PM (JDIKC)

109 Here is a picture I snapped in 2010. USS Arizona memorial the day Sen. Byrd died. I pretty much let the chips decide everything.

http://tinyurl.com/bmz6hst

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 08:04 PM (QdVWw)

110 Anna Puma- Great photo.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 08:06 PM (4Mv1T)

111 Photography? How does it work?

I understand there are books for that sort of thing.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 18, 2012 08:07 PM (PMGbu)

112 Can you even buy film anymore? And where can you get it developed?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 18, 2012 08:09 PM (MPjT8)

113 /wiki/Sunny_16_rule


In photography, the Sunny 16 rule is a method of estimating correct daylight exposures without a light meter. Apart from the obvious advantage of independence from a light meter, the Sunny 16 rule can also aid in achieving correct exposure of difficult subjects.

As the rule is based on incident light, rather than reflected light as with most camera light meters, very bright or very dark subjects are compensated for. The rule serves as a mnemonic for the camera settings obtained on a sunny day using the exposure value (EV) system.

The basic rule is, "On a sunny day set aperture to f/16 and shutter speed to the [reciprocal of the] ISO film speed [or ISO setting] for a subject in direct sunlight.

Posted by: 13times at December 18, 2012 08:09 PM (h6XiD)

114 >>94
I know the post is excruciatingly long, but I figured my window of
opportunity was fairly limited since Ace is only going to be on vacation
for a week. So, I thought it best to get the big basic stuff crammed
into a single post and revisit the subject as warranted/allowed.


Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 07:56 PM (m0h0I)

Lotta good stuff you RINO,Thanks
Bookmarked it

Posted by: ontherocks at December 18, 2012 08:10 PM (aZ6ew)

115 I just found two "fresh" rolls. exp. date 2009, in my old SLR camera bag just last night. I wondered the same thing.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 08:10 PM (4Mv1T)

116 OT
Hulu now has all forty episodes of Sledge Hammer. I'm going to start watching all of them, I don't think it will take as much time as reading this post.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 18, 2012 08:11 PM (GZitp)

117 @ 55 -- Sowell is a wonderful photographer. I think he still works strictly in film, too.

@58 -- I've bought a couple of decent used ones for $100 and change. Can't beat that as a starter camera.

@ 68 -- There are lots of mirrorless cameras out these days that would do the trick. I'd look into the micro-4/3 system (Olympus and others).

@ 80 -- Thank you. I still add to the series fairly regularly, just because I like the challenge of finding something interesting to shoot within a football field of my front door.

@ 85 -- Exactly right. A lot of people don't seem to understand just how great those cameras are. People have been making wonderful photos for a long time -- well before the hellapixel craze took off. Those photos had to have been taken with something that existed before the craze.

@ 90 -- It is cheating under some circumstances, I suppose. One man was recently stripped of a prize and gallery showing because it was discovered that he'd digitally manipulated some elements out of his images, in fact. It's tough to get away with, considering all the pixel-peeping that goes on among photogs.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:12 PM (m0h0I)

118

Really nice stuff.

I went to the Random section of your site.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/random/


How many images are on there!?

I do not know how you decide which to frame and hang, for your personal collection.

The nature shots are gorgeous.

Rand Paul!

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:14 PM (LpQbZ)

119 White man's picture box steal souls of my ancestors through my eyes.


Posted by: IgNoble Savage at December 18, 2012 08:16 PM (iXzYv)

120 85 Oh--
One last thing--digital SLR bodies are basically the equivalent of computer towers, just chips bits.
Buy a used body from two generations back--CHEAP. Three--CHEAPER.
Spend the money on the glass. Lenses make the difference.
Canon L glass on my 30d is better than a kit lens on a 1DX ($8k).

Posted by: Johnny I at December 18, 2012 07:52 PM (WPA+a)


Totally true, but you also need to keep in mind that "three generations back" is the equivalent of a 486 in terms of speed.

Just bought a new Panasonic "cross over" camera. It will take 12 flawless frames/second, do "panoramic" shots, has a glass Leica 18 - 300 zoom lens, and the wife loves it.
The whole rig was less than the lens we were considering for the Nikon we bought 4 years ago, and it's about 5 times faster.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 18, 2012 08:17 PM (Qxe/p)

121 Well I stayed at the bar for another b/c I can't stop lol.
The biggest factor between photos from phones/point and shoots and DSLRs aesthetically, is the ability to get the flash off the camera. A hot shoe and a flash goes a long way. See strobist.com and his 101 course (free).
If the lens and small flash on camera/phone are on the same axis, there won't be much difference in the end result, excepting the quality of the sensor/lens combo.
Try this: www.tinyurl.com/flashlightportraits2012
Take another cell phone flashlight and shoot with your camera's flash off--

And guess which ones were taken with a mytouch 4G slide...

Posted by: Johnny I at December 18, 2012 08:17 PM (WPA+a)

122 As a hobby photographer, the only way I stay ahead of the curve is lighting and ideas. Just sayin'...

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 18, 2012 08:17 PM (X/+QT)

123 http://brewing-with-stevo.blogspot.com/2012/12/bug-on-bug.html

Bug pic.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 08:17 PM (VMcEw)

124
I like not using a light meter. I do prefer auto focus because my eyes are wonky.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 18, 2012 08:18 PM (jWwDJ)

125 How do you photogs feel about photoshopping? To me, it feels like cheating.



This is an art all by itself.

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:19 PM (LpQbZ)

126 Sikeston, Mo? holy shit, that's where I went to high school.

...and great post.

Posted by: jazz & cocktails at December 18, 2012 08:20 PM (jSHRL)

127 Thanks Tobacco Road. Shooting pictures at the Memorial is a bit of a challenge. There are so many people and you have a limited amount of time before your boat departs. So I was snapping on the fly when I thought I could get an unobstructed shot.

One nice thing about digital versus the old film. Don't like a picture, just delete. When I had a 35mm SLR I took far fewer pictures.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 08:21 PM (QdVWw)

128 Sooo..when is Ace and company getting back??

Jesus....

Posted by: Portnoy at December 18, 2012 08:23 PM (A5Abh)

129 sTevo, I guess she was not ready for her close up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 08:23 PM (QdVWw)

130 http://tinyurl.com/c5f6wq3


Black Rock Desert playa with King Lear Peak in the background.

Posted by: 13times at December 18, 2012 08:23 PM (h6XiD)

131 It is cheating under some circumstances, I suppose. One man was recently stripped of a prize and gallery showing because it was discovered that he'd digitally manipulated some elements out of his images, in fact. It's tough to get away with, considering all the pixel-peeping that goes on among photogs.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:12 PM (m0h0I)



I remember at some of the SIGGRAPH's there were contests for digitally manipulated images. They were works of art. But, that was the purpose, art created with manipulation.

A bit different than straight up photography.

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:23 PM (LpQbZ)

132 Yawn.

Posted by: Butters at December 18, 2012 08:27 PM (3o1W0)

133 Anna Puma- That picture made me want to salute, or recite the "Pledge", or sing 'God Bless America"

Just a great photo. You can feel/smell the salt air blowing Old Glory.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 08:27 PM (4Mv1T)

134 Those photos of Barack Obama fucking a donkey in Tijuana are completely bogus.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 08:28 PM (V70Uh)

135 sTevo, I guess she was not ready for her close up.


Posted by: Anna Puma

That, or it's mister lady bug with a fly on its face. You know, like TFG.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 08:28 PM (VMcEw)

136 maybe poor little butters should grab his blanky and have a little nap?

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 08:28 PM (AVfT8)

137 Not much love for digital here. I much prefer the primitive camera and hard film. But, I know it depends what sort of thing you're going for, as subject matter,with shooting. Digital is handy and I do use it sometimes, but, there's just something about it that doesn't look right. You can get a higher ratio of satisfactory pics with digital, but, when you get it right with film, nothing comes close. I reduce the overall costs involved in taking film shots by using bog standard cheap,disposable cameras and working hard at light conditions, shadow and framing to get results. It's a challenge, but worth it.

Posted by: otho at December 18, 2012 08:28 PM (yBF/9)

138 Oh my God. It's full of words.

Posted by: Internet Dave Bowman at December 18, 2012 08:29 PM (OZPoa)

139
Jwb7605--
True!
Newish Canon Rebels out of the box are awesome too, but they don't have the magnesium body frames, more wheel controllers (awesome, instead of buttons, and highly recommended).

You can make amazing photos with "old" gear, and it's great gear gets "old" as quickly as a computer.

If I was just starting, I'd buy a 40D or 50D (yes a Canon preference) for a couple hundred bucks and a 50mm 1.4 EF for 300 both used. Shoot that until Manual gets to be second nature--it will be a long time before you outgrow that initial combo, and just add as you go.

Posted by: Johnny I at December 18, 2012 08:30 PM (WPA+a)

140 Then Al comes in to class up the joint. Then he wonders where are the chicks went.

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 08:30 PM (AVfT8)

141 Yup Yup we have a few Nikons but we take most of our pictures with our iPhones. Why? Because we are lazy bastards and the iPhones fit in our pockets or on our belts. Such is life

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 08:31 PM (79ueO)

142 Just got here, haven't read the comments. Over/under 13 movie review jokes?

Plus, at least one "my god, it's full of words"?

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 18, 2012 08:33 PM (Ai+tZ)

143 Sorry, (not really) we are fucked.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 08:33 PM (V70Uh)

144 Being a bit artsy
http://tinyurl.com/d9854o4

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 08:34 PM (QdVWw)

145 I am wondering when photo arrays will be available to slap on the back of an SLR. Like a databack, except with huge array.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 08:34 PM (VMcEw)

146 Oh! Was this a respectable thread?

Oops. I really, truly an sorry.


Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 08:35 PM (V70Uh)

147 Is this a movie review ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 18, 2012 08:35 PM (SfzOi)

148 Thanks again Tobacco Road. You are too kind.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 08:35 PM (QdVWw)

149 Would it be bad form to say TL;DNR?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 18, 2012 08:39 PM (+inzX)

150 Here's one I shot one morning while lying on my stomach on the dew-soaked grass using a 50mm f/2 with a reversing ring:

http://is.gd/mYQQpg

Immediately after I got the shot, it took the water droplet and rubbed it over its antennae.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:39 PM (m0h0I)

151


Just for shits and giggles, I tried to find my earliest post here, and was sad to see that the old comments appear to be gone.

ace cited me at the end of this old post, but the comments are broken

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/033066.php

Some of these old posts are still funny, though. go check out the archives

cough cough

Posted by: imp at December 18, 2012 08:40 PM (UaxA0)

152 So, Damn Dirty RINO is a peeping Tom?

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 18, 2012 08:40 PM (I2LwF)

153 Would it be bad form to say TL;DNR?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 18, 2012 08:39 PM (+inzX)



to each his own
but, worth the read, and clicking the links as you go

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:41 PM (LpQbZ)

154 Glad you got that off your chest.
Next: any plans to photograph the invisible (so to speak... seems like a promising field)?

Posted by: Thorvald at December 18, 2012 08:41 PM (1V6Pv)

155 Please forgive me for my negativity.

I am reading a book written 20 years ago that says that we were screwed 20 years before that. So. Between my parents and my grandparents, they fucked me, figuratively. In a literal sense, they robbed me.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 08:41 PM (V70Uh)

156 Here's one I shot one morning while lying on my stomach on the dew-soaked grass using a 50mm f/2 with a reversing ring:

http://is.gd/mYQQpg

Immediately after I got the shot, it took the water droplet and rubbed it over its antennae.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:39 PM (m0h0I)



where do you live?

nice country life.

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:42 PM (LpQbZ)

157 but, worth the read, and clicking the links as you go
Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:41 PM (LpQbZ)


I tried, dear God I tried. Made it about halfway through until I encountered an Ennui Battalion. Then I knew, it was a bridge too far....l

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 18, 2012 08:43 PM (+inzX)

158
I hate shutter lag. So much so that if I want to shoot the action photo's you were mentioning I will get down my Nikon F and load up a roll. My digital pocket camera is just a point and shoot 12 Mp. I get decent shoots with my cell phone but they are never used for action shots because the instant is long past by the time it takes the picture.

I got into BW back in the early 70's and have a complete darkroom to dable in the 'dark arts' when I have a project. No digital camera can reproduce the way film captures a subject, I don't care how good your resolution is, how many megapixels or what camera body/lens setup you have. There is no substitute for intuition and good film.The only drawback is there's no 'instant gratification' of seeing what you just shot. I liked to say that digital photography gave the blind the ability to take excelent pictures just by pointing at noises they heard. Seeing some of the pictures from my own collection I can safely say my film shots are still better.

Bottom line, digital is fun because it is instant gratification and it does take a good picture, but film trumps digital, period.

Posted by: Gmac at December 18, 2012 08:43 PM (IanLz)

159

Way O/T, but this, over at legalinsurrection is worth the read:

Does the cultural War on Young Men contribute to mass murders?

http://tinyurl.com/cvsdydy

Many of us have felt this, but here it is, again, reiterated.

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:44 PM (LpQbZ)

160 THE ULTIMATE EXPOSURE COMPUTER <- google.

Posted by: 13times at December 18, 2012 08:45 PM (h6XiD)

161 Kershaw woman 'brutally murdered' with baseball bat, American Baseball League still silent.

Posted by: Whatev at December 18, 2012 08:46 PM (2t6Gz)

162 @ 152 -- No. I generally don't have any trouble getting people to pose. Getting them to NOT pose is a different story.

@ 156 -- I'm way out on the far-western end of Kentucky in a town of about 350 people.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:46 PM (m0h0I)

163 Kershaw woman 'brutally murdered' with baseball bat, American Baseball League still silent.
Posted by: Whatev at December 18, 2012 08:46 PM (2t6Gz)

That's because all the hoodlums are in the National League

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 08:48 PM (79ueO)

164 "Between my parents and my grandparents, they fucked me, figuratively. In a literal sense, they robbed me."

No they didn't. It's water under the damn bridge. I don't know them, or you, but as a parent today I worry like hell about what I am leaving for my two young make sons, 16 and 20. They might say the same thing about me on day, but they'd be wrong.

I would die, and or kill, for my kids, and I expect your parents and grandparents would have done likewise.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 08:48 PM (4Mv1T)

165 I'm way out on the far-western end of Kentucky in a town of about 350 people.
Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:46 PM (m0h0I)


Lucky you.

Thanks for the post.

Really nice.

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:49 PM (LpQbZ)

166 Color me stupefied to see a long treatise on photography at AoS. BTW 'stupefied' is my new favorite word.

I've owned a lot of camera equipment over the years and I'm mostly a Nikon guy. My biggest regret was trading in my N90 for a DSLR. Now I have a D90 and a few Nikkor lenses, a Canon PowerShot A490 and a GoPro HERO2. I was quite the shutterbug for a while and even got some photos published in Equus Magazine, but mostly I used it for taking nekkid pictures of girlfriends


here's an example

http://tinypic.com/r/2dryj9i/6

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 08:50 PM (8sCoq)

167 No man can be a true artist with the camera lens until he's taken off center pictures of a tanker 5 miles off of Venice Beach, or the kind of closeups of bicycle handlebars and sprockets found only in a Schwinn user's manual

Then, and only then, can you achieve calendar fame

Posted by: Cahrsel Jhonsno at December 18, 2012 08:50 PM (wwsoB)

168 young males

fixed it

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 08:51 PM (4Mv1T)

169 @ 157 -- Maybe this will help: http://is.gd/41rNDV

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:51 PM (m0h0I)

170 So you think you know how to drive a camera? Get back to me when you mount the thing on an equitorial mount and do exposures measured in hours.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 18, 2012 08:51 PM (9HhTH)

171 To all of you commenting about this post having too many words, or being too long (aka movie reviews), you no longer can trash low information voters.

Come on, people! I used to have to read 20-30 pages of stuff like this every night when I was in college. You can do it!

He even gave you links so you could go look at an actual picture and then come back!

Make an effort to learn something! Good grief!

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 08:52 PM (GoIUi)

172 No digital camera can reproduce the way film captures a subject, I don't care how good your resolution is, how many megapixels or what camera body/lens setup you have. There is no substitute for intuition and good film.

Posted by: Gmac at December 18, 2012 08:43 PM


Amen.

Posted by: otho at December 18, 2012 08:52 PM (yBF/9)

173 #172 Maybe there is no substitution, but I don't want to set up a darkroom and there is nowhere near me that develops photos.

Digital is my only option.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 08:53 PM (GoIUi)

174 I finally had to go digital after breaking my Olympus 35mm pocket-sized camera. While with digital it's nice to see what the picture looks like just in case I need to take another, with film there was the surprise factor. I can think of several cases when I took a roll or two of film and in the middle of the developed pictures was a standout that I still point to with pride.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 18, 2012 08:53 PM (Mt4hP)

175 Come on, people! I used to have to read 20-30 pages of stuff like this every night when I was in college. You can do it!


Yeah but there was always the hope in college you might meet a girl in the library and have sex

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 08:54 PM (79ueO)

176 Bathroom gets pretty dark with the door closed and the lights out. A towel on the bottom of the door helps too. For anything other than the plain vanilla color process it's pretty much mandatory to develop at home.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 18, 2012 08:55 PM (9HhTH)

177 Holy Jesus...ONT already...

Hopefully posted by Maet or CDRM...

...or are we going to get an education on needle point or baking muffins???

Crafting your own panties???

Posted by: Portnoy at December 18, 2012 08:56 PM (A5Abh)

178 Make an effort to learn something! Good grief!


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 08:52 PM (GoIUi)



Effort is bad.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Helping it burn. at December 18, 2012 08:56 PM (Gk3SS)

179 150
Here's one I shot one morning while lying on my stomach on the dew-soaked grass using a 50mm f/2 with a reversing ring:

http://is.gd/mYQQpg

Immediately after I got the shot, it took the water droplet and rubbed it over its antennae.


Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 08:39 PM (m0h0I)


Wow! That is fantastic!
Thanks for sharing it.

Posted by: Tami at December 18, 2012 08:57 PM (X6akg)

180 Tobacco Road,

You really don't know my grandmother. She was FDR Democrat, Big Labor, Social Justice Catholic. Between Social Security and Medicare, she "fucked me".


Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 08:58 PM (V70Uh)

181 here are some more of my photos

http://is.gd/vJ4mmQ

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 08:59 PM (8sCoq)

182 Photography can be completely mystifying . . .


...and Fabulous!!!

Posted by: Portnoy at December 18, 2012 08:59 PM (A5Abh)

183 Anti-Defamation League: Chuck Hagelís Record On Israel Is ďAt Best, Disturbing, And At Worst, Very TroublingĒÖ

Which makes him the perfect nominee in Obamaís eyes.



Via NRO:

The Anti-Defamation League has officially come out against Chuck Hagel, the rumored front-runner to replace Leon Panetta as secretary of defense. Abe Foxman, the groupís National Director, tells the Washington Postís Jennifer Rubin:

Chuck Hagel would not be the first, second, or third choice for the American Jewish communityís friends of Israel. His record relating to Israel and the U.S.-Israel relationship is, at best, disturbing, and at worst, very troubling. The sentiments heís expressed about the Jewish lobby border on anti-Semitism in the genre of professors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt and former president Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 08:59 PM (79ueO)

184 I was quite the shutterbug for a while and even got some photos
published in Equus Magazine, but mostly I used it for taking nekkid pictures of girlfriends here's an example

http://tinypic.com/r/2dryj9i/6


Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 08:50 PM
--------
Which one is your girlfriend? I mean, they're both lovely and all, but...

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 08:59 PM (ay6+/)

185 For contrast. Here is a picture I took with my 35mm SLR using 400ASA film. Airshow. CAF replica B5N Kate torpedo bomber. And the pyrotechnics had started a grass fire.
http://tinyurl.com/d8uglya

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:00 PM (QdVWw)

186 >>>He even gave you links so you could go look at an actual picture and then come back!

I just read AofSHQ for the articles. I have no interest in the pictures.

BTW, Jones in CO, there was no nekkidness at that link.
Damnit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:00 PM (4Mv1T)

187 178
Make an effort to learn something! Good grief!




Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 08:52 PM (GoIUi)


Seriously?? With the entire interwebs at my beck and call..I'm going to come to AOS to learn photography???

Really??

Posted by: Portnoy at December 18, 2012 09:01 PM (A5Abh)

188 >Which one is your girlfriend? I mean, they're both lovely and all, but...


Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 08:59 PM (ay6+/)

ahhh ha ha

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 09:01 PM (8sCoq)

189 You really don't know my grandmother. She was FDR Democrat, Big Labor, Social Justice Catholic. Between Social Security and Medicare, she "fucked me".

That's hot.

Posted by: Oedipus at December 18, 2012 09:01 PM (4pSIn)

190 I'm still trying to figure out my Polaroid Swinger. This stuff is over my head.

Posted by: Ronster at December 18, 2012 09:01 PM (JgkPs)

191 158 Bottom line, digital is fun because it is instant gratification and
it does take a good picture, but film trumps digital, period.


Yes and no. I think a lot of folks are confusing what the sensor is capable of, and what its limitations are. For instance (and I might have missed it as I left for a bit) nobody has gotten into the differences of sensors, sizes etc. micro 4/3, crop sensors or full frame to throw some out there. Or Bayer vs. Foveon.

While I miss film, each type had a particular color - the closest analog correlation would be analog audio tubes vs. solid state or digital. And that particular film, velvia, ektachrome, kodachrome etc. all had a certain look, some quite romantic. Accurate, no. Same with digital. Depending on brand of sensor - each has a particular color palette. Some prefer Canon, some Nikon, others Sony.

Film was also sensitive to light (no duh), but you needed things like UV filters. Today, you don't, but they'll try to sell 'em to you anyway.

The biggest advantage to digital is that you can post process the photos, which was nearly impossible to do in typical color photography days of old. Hence "airbrush" skills. In BW you could do things like dodge and burn.

I'll say that analog LP's blow away CD's, but would pit digital against film, as much as I miss certain aspects of it. Of course, I'm talking about "consumer level" stuff, 35mm ratio. While a good full frame DSLR can take pics that can be blown up quite large (megapixels are a misnomer), nothing can compare to the resolution gained in a 4x5 piece of film.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at December 18, 2012 09:02 PM (Qxdfp)

192 Anna Puma- you are rockin'

The sound of that radial engine is making the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:02 PM (4Mv1T)

193 And, btw, I met her twice before she "went home to the Lord". She did NOTHING for me or my siblings.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:02 PM (V70Uh)

194 >BTW, Jones in CO, there was no nekkidness at that link.

Damnit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:00 PM (4Mv1T)

yeah that comment was written in a way to make you expect a different result at the link. we regret the inconvenience

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 09:03 PM (8sCoq)

195 Seriously?? With the entire interwebs at my beck and call..I'm going to come to AOS to learn photography???

Quit yer feckin whinin'

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:03 PM (4pSIn)

196 Deleted my Instagram account today. Fuck them.

Now, hot chocolate and AOS.

Better.

Posted by: trainer @ Home at December 18, 2012 09:03 PM (1QEkm)

197 Hey Oedipus,

My mother was 42 when I was born.

Mercifully, I NEVER had any fantasies involving her.


Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:04 PM (V70Uh)

198 @ 181 -- Very nice work! Enjoyed it very much.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 09:04 PM (m0h0I)

199 I cut my teeth with 35mm photography and gradually over time just stopped but then this year my wife bought me a used Nikon DSLR off of e-bay or from a Goodwill store for about $50 bucks and I was off and running again. I have other digital cameras, my go to guy is a Kodak digital that takes great pictures and has quite a few bells and whistles. The biggest habit I have had to break, one I didn't know I had was everytime I came back to download the pictures it was always either 24 or 36. That is the number of exposures on 35mm roll of film and I guess I just had some counter in my mind that would keep count. I have overcome that. My second biggest hurdle transitioning to digital, and still is, like Dirty Rhino pointed out, getting the right shot the first time. With digital in most cases you can keep adjusting settings, click another shot, review it and if you don't like it make some more adjustments and take another. In the old 35mm days you wouldn't really know what you had till the pictures got developed and if you screwed up a shot oh well. The benefit however is I developed a good sense for how aperture, shutter settings worked. I now travel with 3 cameras in my backpack. The big Nikon DSLR with a 55-200mm lens, the Kodak for when I can't seem to get the desired results from the Nikon and lastly a Nikon CoolPic that mostly stays in the car for those quick shots of things spotted while driving around or oddities like the time I got a picture of a poodle on somebodies roof.

Posted by: Tequila at December 18, 2012 09:04 PM (+KDIM)

200 Still learning to use this camera...

http://tinyurl.com/d29gzpg

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 18, 2012 09:05 PM (9HhTH)

201 Nicely done RINO.

Will you cover cell phone photography next week? I keed, I keed!

Posted by: CDR M at December 18, 2012 09:05 PM (dKV5k)

202 #172 Maybe there is no substitution, but I don't want to set up a darkroom and there is nowhere near me that develops photos.Digital is my only option.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 08:53 PM

Having nowhere to develop sucks. Film can be a pain. Digital does have it's own advantages.

Posted by: otho at December 18, 2012 09:06 PM (yBF/9)

203 My late dad was a great photographer. I've inherited a suitcase full of slides, which I really, really need to do something about preserving. Gah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Life Coach at December 18, 2012 09:07 PM (UOM48)

204 159




Way O/T, but this, over at legalinsurrection is worth the read:



Does the cultural War on Young Men contribute to mass murders?



http://tinyurl.com/cvsdydy



Many of us have felt this, but here it is, again, reiterated.

Posted by: beach at December 18, 2012 08:44 PM (LpQbZ)

______________________________________________I grew up in the 80s. Every day after school I played sports. Not organized sports, just pick up games with kids from schools or from the neighborhood. In summer/spring it was baseball. In fall it was football or soccer. In winter we went an outdoor skating rink and layed hokey. And (GHASP!!!) we didn't have pads or helmets, we just had fun.
You never see this today. Instead the kids are playing video games or texting or on facebook 24/7.

And the other thing I remember was fighting. It happened all the time. Bloody noses at recess were common. Today? Jesus fucking christ, give a kid a bloody nose and you're suspended for a week.

And surprise surprise, 20 year olds lash out and kill 20 kids. I wonder why?

Oh and nobody was autistic either.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:07 PM (HDgX3)

205 I wonder

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:07 PM (XDC0v)

206 >My late dad was a great photographer. I've inherited
a suitcase full of slides, which I really, really need to do something
about preserving. Gah.


Posted by: Jane D'oh, Life Coach at December 18, 2012 09:07 PM (UOM4

Jane you can get a scanner that accepts slides (I have a Nikon Coolscan IV) or you can get a photolab to scan them to CDeither way will cost you some $$

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 09:08 PM (8sCoq)

207 Wow...it's like I've stumbled upon a World of WarCraft thread by mistake...

my bad.

Posted by: Portnoy at December 18, 2012 09:08 PM (A5Abh)

208 Al- Your Grandma didn't "fuck you". (That sounds sick, sorry) but FDR did.

Anyone born after WWII really has no idea what the Depression was like. There were no safety nets. My mom remembers her dad, a small town preacher, losing his only $750 when the banks failed.

They didn't have a clue what the consequences would be in 2012.

We now have the benefit of hindsight.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:09 PM (4Mv1T)

209 Thanks Tobacco Road. Scanned it in at 200dpi from original 4x5. Should clean up scratches and adjust the contrast. But its real film and that picture just makes you think you are there at Pearl Harbor. So I don't mess with it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:10 PM (QdVWw)

210 I wonder if Neil Patrick Harris gets as grossed out kissing a hot chick on HIMYM as i would kissing a handsome man

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:10 PM (XDC0v)

211 208
Al- Your Grandma didn't "fuck you". (That sounds sick, sorry) but FDR did.





Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:09 PM (4Mv1T)

_________________________
But his grandma indirectly fucked him by voting for that communist fuck 4 times. Well maybe not his grandma, but a hell of a lot of grandmas and grandpas.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:10 PM (HDgX3)

212 Thanks, Jones in CO. There are a ton of slides in the suitcase. I've got to do something.

*adds to mental list of a zillion things I'll get around to some day*

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Life Coach at December 18, 2012 09:12 PM (UOM48)

213 >>>>And, btw, I met her twice before she "went home to the Lord". She did NOTHING for me or my siblings.

Well for gosh sake's son, don't air it here. Buy a bottle of scotch and forget about. Family's are not perfect, ever.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:13 PM (4Mv1T)

214 The problem was that our forefathers voted for things that would be functional when applied tomoral people who loved America. With the rise in another type of people the structures they built became horrible monsters. That's what happened to Inyoue, for instance.

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:13 PM (XDC0v)

215 Family's are not perfect, ever.
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:13 PM (4Mv1T)

My family is perfect. A perfect collection of liberal assholes and ignorant sluts. And those are the ones I'd turn my back on...maybe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:14 PM (79ueO)

216 RE: local grown food thread

Every time I see a "DO YOU KNOW YOUR FARMER" bumper sticker on a Subaru I feel like keying it. Who gives a fuck if I know my farmer? I don't know the guy in China building my iPad. I don't know the guy in California maintaining the Google servers I use every day. I don't know the chemist that makes the medication I take. I don't know 99% of the people that make the shit I use every day. So what's so damn special about a farmer that I have to know him on a personal basis?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:15 PM (HDgX3)

217 Also I found a pretty good site which provides a lot of good information, tips and tricks for digital photography for everybody from beginners to pros. I subscribe to their weekly newsletter which always contains useful information. If you're interested here it is: http://tinyurl.com/ggyrd

Posted by: Tequila at December 18, 2012 09:15 PM (+KDIM)

218 >>Family's are not perfect, ever.

Did I tell you that mom's birthday is December 21st? She is what the Mayans were trying to warn us about.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at December 18, 2012 09:15 PM (9HhTH)

219 214
The problem was that our forefathers voted for things that would be
functional when applied tomoral people who loved America. With the rise
in another type of people the structures they built became horrible
monsters. That's what happened to Inyoue, for instance.

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:13 PM (XDC0v)

_______________
Bullshit. FDR was no different than Obama. He was selling free stuff to the masses. And they voted for it. The Free Shit Army of the 30s was no better than the Free Shit Army of the 2010s.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:16 PM (HDgX3)

220 Love cameras, would never go anywhere without my kind of piece of shit Nikon Coolpix 8800, $900 online at the time. The same time I bought the (now) ex wife a $2200 Nikon that she used once. Sitting in the car, at night, taking pictures out the window with the flash on. Never touched it again, until she took it with her in the divorce. Biatch!!!

Posted by: Whatev at December 18, 2012 09:16 PM (2t6Gz)

221 Mr Moo Moo actually those Google servers would be in Douglasville, GA http://tinyurl.com/7glsxxq

Posted by: Tequila at December 18, 2012 09:17 PM (+KDIM)

222 My family is perfect. A perfect collection of liberal assholes and ignorant sluts.

Unmm, can I get some phone numbers and emails? I'm ok with ignorant sluts.

As long as they don't talk - and I have duct tape for that anyway. M

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 18, 2012 09:17 PM (+inzX)

223 So what's so damn special about a farmer that I have to know him on a personal basis?


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:15 PM
-----------------
Hell, I barely know my proctologist.

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:18 PM (ay6+/)

224 Then there is the whole raw image file subject. Some cameras, if set for it, can produce the CR2 file. Then you don't lose data due to JPG compression routines.

Get ready to chew up some serious hard drive space because each pic is 12+mb.

I use IrfanView to view image files and they have a plugin to view raw images.

I have to remind my daughter to turn on raw data when taking serious shots and to turn it off while goofing around.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 09:18 PM (VMcEw)

225 That's probably a good thing.

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:19 PM (ay6+/)

226 Relatively cost free? I would say so for the average Joe with a point
and shoot digital camera, but dSLR's are another matter. My gadget
bag is a honking backpack with 2 bodies, 8 lenses, flash, macro ring flash,
filters, etc.....

It weighs near 70 pounds. I became a compulsive collector of photographic
equipment. I spent nearly a grand on a 200-500mm zoom, only to find out
that it needed a 500 dollar tripod to keep such a lens steady.

All this to take family photos on Thanksgiving and Christmas for the most
part. Apart from the USS Iowa, the Fort MacArthur museum and the
Long Beach Aquarium, I have done little else.

My advice: Do not go overboard. Buy a decent high end point and shoot
camera. Learn to use your photo editing software and purchase a decent
photo printer.


Posted by: Leonard Jones at December 18, 2012 09:19 PM (Hfmdr)

227 My late dad was a great photographer. I've inherited
a suitcase full of slides, which I really, really need to do something
about preserving. Gah.


Posted by: Jane D'oh, Life Coach at December 18, 2012 09:07 PM (UOM4

Jane you can get a scanner that accepts slides (I have a Nikon Coolscan IV) or you can get a photolab to scan them to CDeither way will cost you some $$

****

I have a Dell that I paid almost $500 for a couple of years ago. It's fantastic and accepts slides as well.

Well, well worth the money for safeguarding your precious photos.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 09:19 PM (piMMO)

228 219 OK, so the character of population of the United States hasn't changed in character since the 30's? Really? Same rate of single motherhood, huh-

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:19 PM (XDC0v)

229 228 Tell ya what. Find ONE person here who agrees with you about that.

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:21 PM (XDC0v)

230 So should I next scan in a picture of an AH-64 at sunset? Or an FG-1D Corsair scrambling to intercept the CAF strike force?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:21 PM (QdVWw)

231 221
Mr Moo Moo actually those Google servers would be in Douglasville, GA http://tinyurl.com/7glsxxq

Posted by: Tequila at December 18, 2012 09:17 PM (+KDIM)

__________________
Google - one of the most liberal companies ever - has its data centers in GA, SC, NC, IA and, OK. What do all of these have in common? They are all Right To Work States.
Hypocrites as usual.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:22 PM (HDgX3)

232 So should I next scan in a picture of an AH-64 at sunset? Or an FG-1D Corsair scrambling to intercept the CAF strike force?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:21 PM
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Yes.

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:23 PM (ay6+/)

233 228
219 OK, so the character of population of the United States hasn't
changed in character since the 30's? Really? Same rate of single
motherhood, huh-

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:19 PM (XDC0v)

______________________
What does that have to do with anything? People in the 30s voted for free shit from the govt. Doesn't matter if they were Beaver Cleaver or not.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:23 PM (HDgX3)

234 229 ? Am I over my Scotch limit already?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:23 PM (4Mv1T)

235 Holy fucking TL;DR

Posted by: MadisonConservative at December 18, 2012 09:24 PM (sb+ta)

236 Air it here? Why not?

A thousand cases of Scotch never erase the neglect of the one grandparent that was alive and showed no affection.


Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:24 PM (V70Uh)

237 @ 224 -- Shooting in RAW is a definite must. It gives you a huge deal more dynamic range in post-processing. I love IrfanView, myself. You can use the old .8BF Photoshop plugins with it.

As for view RAW images, aside from Adobe Lightroom (which costs actual money) I like Picasa. From what I gather, it supports just about every image format. And it's a pretty handy image library organizer as well.

http://picasa.google.com/

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 09:24 PM (m0h0I)

238 233 'Cuz that was what I was talking about

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:25 PM (XDC0v)

239 So should I next scan in a picture of an AH-64 at sunset? Or an FG-1D Corsair scrambling to intercept the CAF strike force?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:21 PM
--------------
...but seriously, the Corsair. Always the Corsair. Please post links!

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:25 PM (ay6+/)

240 Just like today...the population of the 30's had no idea exactly what they were voting for.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:26 PM (uis79)

241 Mr Moo Moo. Gather your composure and realize that America of 1930 had no fucking clue that free shit wasn't just that. Free shit. They were in the depths of the depression. They didn't have anywhere near the available information we have today.. And there was no hindsight other than the experience of southerners with Reconstruction in the South.

In photographic terms, you really need to expand your depth of field.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:27 PM (4Mv1T)

242 Am I over my Scotch limit already?
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:23 PM (4Mv1T)


The only limit on Scotch is the loose change in your pocket or the generosity of a pretty lady

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:27 PM (79ueO)

243 Without using your Bing or Google fu tell me why its a FG-1D.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:27 PM (QdVWw)

244 233 OK, so food stamps for a starving baby is the same as food stamps for a fat healthy 20-year old who wears $200 sneakers. O.K., let's see if you can find one person here who'd agree with you on that too- Playing iconoclast is gratifying sometimes but at least be remotely believable

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:28 PM (XDC0v)

245 240
Just like today...the population of the 30's had no idea exactly what they were voting for.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:26 PM (uis79)

__________________-
I disagree. The population knows exactly what it's voting for. The choice is

a) work and buy your own shit
b) don't work and get everything for free
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. We talk about how Democrats are stupid all the time. They're not stupid. They're lazy. And actually they're kinda smart since they figured out they can have everything we have without having to lift a finger for it. And the same was true in the 1930s.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:28 PM (HDgX3)

246 I disagree. America in 1930 is exactly like America now. Tax the Rich! Free shit baby. The modern American is NO MORE informed that the FDR voter on 1932.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:29 PM (V70Uh)

247 244 Should have said a lazy fat healthy 20-year old who wears $200 sneakers- that's the same as helping people in N-E-E-D...

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:30 PM (XDC0v)

248 A thousand cases of Scotch never erase the neglect of the one grandparent that was alive and showed no affection.

Someone needs a hug.

I'll go look for a volunteer.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:30 PM (4pSIn)

249 241
Mr Moo Moo. Gather your composure and realize that America of 1930 had
no fucking clue that free shit wasn't just that. Free shit. They were in
the depths of the depression. They didn't have anywhere near the
available information we have today.. And there was no hindsight other
than the experience of southerners with Reconstruction in the South.



In photographic terms, you really need to expand your depth of field.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:27 PM (4Mv1T)

_______________________
I've studies plenty of history including the Great Depression. Here's a little history lesson for you. Prior to the GD, there was no such thing as a recession. An economic contraction was called a depression. The GD was called the GREAT Depression simply because it went on as long as it did (thanks to FDR's policies). Prior to the 30s there had been several other depressions. And they self-corrected. And fast, usually within 2-3 years. It was only in the 1930s when Americans decided to give communism a try. So spare me the bullshit about it was a depression, people had no choice. They did have a choice. And they chose the easy way out.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:31 PM (HDgX3)

250 *studied

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:32 PM (HDgX3)

251 OTOH, just celebrate the 35th wedding anniversary!

Yeah! The "grandmother" didn't love me. But hey, The wife still loves me after 35 years. I am not a complete failure.


Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:32 PM (V70Uh)

252 246 "America in 1930 is exactly like America now." Really. So the rates of single motherhood have no effect on anything. Good to see you've thought so much about it-

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:32 PM (XDC0v)

253
So what's so damn special about a farmer that I have to know him on a personal basis?

=====
What are you, an anti-farmite? Next you'll be saying they should have their own special land.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 18, 2012 09:32 PM (MPjT8)

254 I like the sketch effect. Then I tell people at work I drew it. They all act impressed.

Posted by: Obama at December 18, 2012 09:33 PM (2t6Gz)

255 3000 years ago, the Chinese figured out that private ownership of farmland was most productive.

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:34 PM (V70Uh)

256 Someone needs a hug.

I'll go look for a volunteer.


****

I hope others laughed as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 09:34 PM (piMMO)

257 I didn't study the Great Depression. I grew up with people who lived through it. The difference is like watching porn and f**king. p.s.: There IS a difference.

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:35 PM (XDC0v)

258 The United States has eliminated more than 20 of al Qaeda's top 30 leaders based in Afghanistan and Pakistan from the battlefield since Barack Obama became president, a top US government security official said on Tuesday.

Daniel Benjamin, head of the State Department's counterterrorism bureau, said that when Obama took office in 2009, al Qaeda's central organization, then led by Osama bin Laden, was a "formidable and dangerous organization." (Reuters)


So they are all dead and buried ha???? So who exactly is taking over the egypt, libya, syria, and the rest of the middle east?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:35 PM (79ueO)

259 No difference at all. Where are there people starving in the U.S. today? How many illegals were getting foodstamps and free medical care then? NO difference, NOPE.

Posted by: DAve at December 18, 2012 09:37 PM (XDC0v)

260 Al, Mr Moo Moo. I bid you both adieu. The scotch I'm sipping tastes far too good to be ruined by either of your rants.

Now. Can we get an ONT around here?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:37 PM (4Mv1T)

261 I didn't study the Great Depression. I grew up with people who lived through it. The difference is like watching porn and f**king. p.s.: There IS a difference.


****

I can relate. I was raised, for the most part, by my grandparents. Their habits rubbed off on me.

My grandmother would always stash away new linens and not use them because she never knew when she'd have new linens again.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 09:38 PM (piMMO)

262 Without using your Bing or Google fu tell me why its a FG-1D.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:27 PM
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Not a damn clue. I love the Corsair, though. I didn't know you were talking about what I know as an F4U until I googled the pics already. I'll go back and read now.

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:38 PM (ay6+/)

263 @245

In the 30's we were not the worlds reserve currency, so the value of the dollar was accurate. The government confiscated gold..etc. to cover the printing of money. The government couldn't just give money away they had to create "Labor" which helped regain the value of the dollar. Today....they can hand out truck loads of worthless money and it doesn't matter, which makes it easy for politicians, because Petro dollars are still in short supply. That won't always be the case, and when day comes the government could do hand-out even if they wanted to.

Money=Human Capital
Currency=Trade of Human Capital

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:38 PM (uis79)

264 The Great Drepression? My mother's physician father had to accept poultry instead of cash. Hard times indeed.


Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:39 PM (V70Uh)

265 The difference is like watching porn and f**king.

Would that analogy work better if you had lived through the depression?

I think it closer to the difference between watching porn and peeping on your neighbors fucking.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:40 PM (4pSIn)

266 Oops!

"couldn't do handouts, even if they wanted to."

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:40 PM (uis79)

267 #245 Here, let me draw you a picture (sort of staing on the topic):

THERE WAS NO WORK IN THE DEPRESSION. That is why people went to work in the WPA or the CCC! NO WORK. My grandfather was a pressman for our local paper and was put on half pay, and it is why my father couldn't go to college and instead enlisted in the Army and got paid a pittance and was glad to be fed!

Are you unfamiliar with the Dust Bowl? Bread Lines? Malnutrition? People living in lean-to's? Hoovervilles? People putting newspaper in their shoes with holes? The mother of one of my best friends in high school lived in a damn CHICKEN HOUSE! And people had no TV, no internet, no air-conditioning, few telephones, and no way to get to another state if they were too poor to buy a car (which most were). My husband's family were sharecroppers and his grandfather lost his farm in the Dust Bowl.

So get over yourself. You have no understanding of what the Depression was like.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 09:41 PM (GoIUi)

268 DAve. What you said,

times 1000.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:41 PM (4Mv1T)

269 I think it closer to the difference between watching porn and peeping on your neighbors fucking.
Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:40 PM (4pSIn)

OK that's an easy one. How about between watching porn and watching your college roommate have sex with is girlfriend in the next bed?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:41 PM (79ueO)

270 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:28 PM (HDgX3)

Tend to disagree, the demographic shift has been to create a large segment of the population that are willing to sit on their asses and get enough stuff for free without working.


With our entitlement society in high gear, the level of today's free enough is beyond the expectations of Louis XIV!


With our disastrous educational system coupled with our deliberate demographic shift, the percentage of the population that are totally incapable of understanding fiscal collapse is high enough that of course they would opt for free stuff. Hell, most of them have never seen anybody that earned the money to pay for anything!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 18, 2012 09:42 PM (Cnqmv)

271 And Miss Marple, likewise. Times 1000.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 09:42 PM (4Mv1T)

272 Anyone read "To Kill a Mockingbird?"

Wasn't there a chapter that involved someone leaving livestock on the back porch in payment for legal services?

Posted by: Al at December 18, 2012 09:42 PM (V70Uh)

273 CNN news flash: Report blames security for Benghazi/ State Dept comes out looking bad.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 09:43 PM (piMMO)

274 Flanuer, here comes some education.

FG-1D : F for Fighter [First contract so the 1 is omitted] G is manufacturer designation, in this case Goodyear. - 1 First variant. D sub-variant in this case this Corsair, like the F4U-1D, has a center line rack for a bomb or drop tank.

Goodyear later made the Super Corsairs. They were intended to deal with the kamikaze threat. These Corsairs had an R-4360 28 cylinder corn-cob motor. They were called F2G Corsairs.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:45 PM (QdVWw)

275 How many really believe Hillary fainted and has a concussion?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:45 PM (uis79)

276 only on AoS could a photo thread morph into a discussion of US economics in the 1930s

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 09:46 PM (8sCoq)

277 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:45 PM
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Awesome. Thanks! This really IS a smart military blog!

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:46 PM (ay6+/)

278 #275 Not me. I demand medical records before I believe she had a concussion.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 09:46 PM (GoIUi)

279 OK that's an easy one. How about between watching porn and watching your college roommate have sex with is girlfriend in the next bed?

Are they ok with me watching, or do I have to pretend I am asleep?

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (4pSIn)

280 How many really believe Hillary fainted and has a concussion?


Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:45 PM
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Dude, wadn't me.

Posted by: Bill at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (ay6+/)

281 CNN news flash: Report blames security for Benghazi/ State Dept comes out looking bad.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 09:43 PM (piMMO)


Hum? The family has buffers, plenty of buffers. All the "biggies" are protected. Shocka

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (79ueO)

282 I learned my photography skills on an old medium format Bronica. I needed to learn how to use a light meter in the process.
It was far more difficult than the cameras of today but I'm convinced it made me a better photographer because I had to become familiar with how light works on film.
My number one tip on becoming a better photographer is to learn how to edit ruthlessly. Nobody needs to see your bad photos-get rid of them.

Posted by: Northern Lurker at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (Q2kbX)

283 The irony of a massive post about photography without a single picture in it escapes me.

Its kind of like electing a guy with no fucking experience at anything except running his mouth, smoking a joint and jerking his dick to be president.

Unheard of in a sane world.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (ovpNn)

284 When I was in 4th grade, the 4-H club offered two photography courses. I loved it, but my folks couldn't afford anything past an Instamatic, so I let it all go. Maybe now's the time to try again.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 18, 2012 09:48 PM (5J54Q)

285 I'll not be recommending this excellent thread to my kids, now, with all the fuggin' going on.

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 09:48 PM (VMcEw)

286
How many really believe Hillary fainted and has a concussion?


=====
She may have fainted but her cankles would hold her up, preventing a concussion.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 18, 2012 09:48 PM (MPjT8)

287 278 #275 Not me. I demand medical records before I believe she had a concussion.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 09:46 PM (GoIUi)


She will be unable to recall anything.

Also, Anna Puma should explain that "UH" designates rotary-winged aircraft.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 18, 2012 09:48 PM (Qxe/p)

288 >The irony of a massive post about photography without a single picture in it escapes me.


I posted 2 linx to 6 photos

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (8sCoq)

289 Are they ok with me watching, or do I have to pretend I am asleep?
Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (4pSIn)

If they are doing the wild thing in the ned next to you, I think they have given up all rights to privacy. Although good taste and manners does prevent cheering and cat calling.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (79ueO)

290 273
CNN news flash: Report blames security for Benghazi/ State Dept comes out looking bad.


Well, you didn't think they were going to blame me, did you? Come on.

Posted by: Teflon Obama at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (2IW5Q)

291 If Hillary fainted and has a concussion.....then I'm Fucking Bruce Lee!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (uis79)

292 Flanuer, now try to figure out a Bf-109F-4/Z/Trop....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (QdVWw)

293 Dude, wasn't me.


Posted by: Bill at December 18, 2012 09:47 PM (ay6+/)


Me neither!

Posted by: Vince Foster at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (Cnqmv)

294 @285

Well...here's a quarter calls somebody who cares

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:50 PM (uis79)

295 280
How many really believe Hillary fainted and has a concussion?




Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:45 PM

fainted? sure.

fell and got a concussion?

Physically impossible.

She has cankles that are 46 inches in diameter. That type of wide base stabilization precludes any possibility of her losing her balance and falling down.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at December 18, 2012 09:50 PM (ovpNn)

296 275
How many really believe Hillary fainted and has a concussion?


Does she really strike anyone as the fainting type? Whalebone corset too tight? Bolton is right, as usual.

Posted by: Splunge at December 18, 2012 09:50 PM (2IW5Q)

297 If they are doing the wild thing in the ned next to you, I think they have given up all rights to privacy. Although good taste and manners does prevent cheering and cat calling.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM (79ueO)



True, but you can still judge and hold up the scorecards at the end.

Posted by: CDR M at December 18, 2012 09:51 PM (dKV5k)

298 Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 09:48 PM (VMcEw)



From what I have seen, all AoS threads eventually become NSFSC!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 18, 2012 09:51 PM (Cnqmv)

299 Are we o/t? Who likes a red filter for clouds? Fookin' A!
Fookin' clouds, man! They're just, like, vapor!
So, do you like Eliot Porter? Man Ray? Edward S. Curtis? Eadweard Muybridge? Documentary nature photography? Berlin Brixner?
Or do you like moving pictures? David Lean.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 18, 2012 09:51 PM (1V6Pv)

300 So how much of our money did this "committee" spend to figure out this administration is paying no never mind to the terrorists in the middle east and trying to make nice to them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:51 PM (79ueO)

301 I have posted three picture links. And working on a fourth. So try again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:52 PM (QdVWw)

302 Although good taste and manners does prevent cheering and cat calling.

Rare commodities in this joint.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 09:52 PM (4pSIn)

303 I see so communism in 2012 is no good. But since times were tough in the 1930s communism was A-OK. Pathetic.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:53 PM (HDgX3)

304 I loved the photography in the book The Cutting Edge.

Posted by: CDR M at December 18, 2012 09:53 PM (dKV5k)

305 So how much of our money did this "committee" spend
to figure out this administration is paying no never mind to the
terrorists in the middle east and trying to make nice to them?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 09:51 PM (79ueO)


Pocket change compared to what Obama's paying the FSA for their votes!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 18, 2012 09:53 PM (Cnqmv)

306 No one gets to bitch about the length of Gaming posts again. EVER

Posted by: Zakn at December 18, 2012 09:54 PM (zyaZ1)

307 Me neither!


Posted by: Vince Foster at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM
----------------
"Oh, look at me. I have a great alibi!". Asshole. Some guys get all the luck.

Posted by: Bill at December 18, 2012 09:54 PM (ay6+/)

308
Tax rates for those making up to $4000 those making $1000000

1932-33
4
4,000
63
1,000,000
1934-35
3 4
4,000
63
1,000,000
1936-39
3 4
4,000
79
5,000,000
1940
3 4.4
4,000
81.1
5,000,000

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 18, 2012 09:55 PM (+9AX9)

309 From what I have seen, all AoS threads eventually become NSFSC!


Posted by: Hrothgar

I know. I am as guilty as anyone for R-rated comments.

Unrelated...
Wifey just asked "what's with the bug?"

Posted by: sTevo at December 18, 2012 09:55 PM (VMcEw)

310
Photography - ephemeral.
Stone tablets - forever.

Posted by: Granite at December 18, 2012 09:55 PM (INNvP)

311 UH = Utility Helicopter. Hence UH-1 and UH-60.

Now do you know what the V means in VF-41?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (QdVWw)

312 Me neither!




Posted by: Vince Foster at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM
----------------
"Oh, look at me. I have a great alibi!". Asshole. Some guys get all the luck.


Posted by: Bill at December 18, 2012 09:54 PM (ay6+/)

My alibi is really unimpeachable!

Posted by: Vince Foster at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (Cnqmv)

313 @303

Nobody's saying its OK....but its an Apple and Orange comparison. Also, that was the first time the country had taken such a big step in that direction.....and I find it hard to believe that the population understood the consequences 70 years down the road.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (uis79)

314 #303 Not going to let you get the last word, Moo-Moo.

The average American in the 1930's didn't even have a high school diploma. They didn't know what communism was. Most people of that era only knew Stalin when he was FDR's ally.

No internet. No television. No tie to read many books because you were trying to survive.

Get off your superior attitude about my grandparents' generation. They worked hard and did the best they could. Plus, the only information they had was from newspapers and radio.

I think you need to go talk to some people in their 80's and find out what it was like back in the 1930's.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (GoIUi)

315 My alibi is really unimpeachable!

Dead ain't enough these days. Trust me.

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at December 18, 2012 09:57 PM (INNvP)

316 Posted by: harleycowboy at December 18, 2012 09:55 PM (+9AX9)

Maybe it is just me, but your formatting is so bad I can't understand your point!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 18, 2012 09:58 PM (Cnqmv)

317 Flanuer. Here is the FG-1D. 600dpi and no adjusting of anything.
http://tinyurl.com/ctwwou4

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:58 PM (QdVWw)

318 Posted by: harleycowboy at December 18, 2012 09:55 PM (+9AX9)

____________________


Hey man times were tough dontcha know. It was perfectly fine for Comrade Roosevelt to impose an 81% tax rate. But don't you dare call the people who voted from him moochers!! On the other hand anyone who voted for Obama and his 39.6% tax rate needs to be shot.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:58 PM (HDgX3)

319 Vertical Flight perhaps?

Posted by: Zakn at December 18, 2012 09:58 PM (zyaZ1)

320 @306 Gaming? You mean there are baseball posts I miss? Lot's of talk about nut cups and spitting? OMG! Does that bow-tied Solon George Will have a nom de plume here?
(Btw, is it true the NFL is all socialist now?)

Posted by: Thorvald at December 18, 2012 09:58 PM (1V6Pv)

321 Flanuer, now try to figure out a Bf-109F-4/Z/Trop


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:49 PM
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Jeez, I couldn't to save my life without google/bing. I know what 109s are but was never much fascinated despite its technical niftiness. As a kid I used to drool for hours over pictures of F4Us and P51s. Two sexy-ass planes, dammit.

I never did know about that steroided-up big 'ole motor version of the Corsair. Cool stuff.

Posted by: Lurking Flaneur at December 18, 2012 09:59 PM (ay6+/)

322 "If Hillary fainted and has a concussion.....then I'm Fucking Bruce Lee!"

Do not, I repeat DO NOT fuck Bruce Lee. You will regret that you ever Entered the Dragon.

Posted by: David Duke at December 18, 2012 09:59 PM (m50qE)

323 Maybe it is just me, but your formatting is so bad I can't understand your point!


Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 18, 2012 09:58 PM (Cnqmv)

___________
His point is the tax rate under FDR was 81% for evil rich people.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 09:59 PM (HDgX3)

324 and I find it hard to believe that the population understood the consequences 70 years down the road.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (uis79)

_________________
It's not hard to understand what happens when you steal from some people to give to other people using the govt as a means of perpetrating the theft.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:00 PM (HDgX3)

325 Now do you know what the V means in VF-41?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (QdVWw)


Having once been a plane captain in VF-24 (merged into VF-211), I'm guessing the V stands for "fixed wing", and the F stands for "fighter". If it would have been VA-214 or whatever, that would be "fixed wing attack".

Am I close?
(My rate was AQF, by the way)

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 18, 2012 10:00 PM (Qxe/p)

326 @308

#1.) Those are the marginal rates not the effective rates

#2.) Tax Loopholes were extensive

#3.) The number of people in the upper bracket were very small relative to today, hence the consequences to the economy were very much diminished compared to today.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 10:00 PM (uis79)

327 Heading to bed. Night, everyone!

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 10:01 PM (GoIUi)

328 Where do I find the f stop on my Polaroid Swinger?

Posted by: Ronster at December 18, 2012 10:01 PM (JgkPs)

329 But don't you dare call the people who voted from him moochers!

There was no concept of the welfare state as it exists now back then. Not even close.

FDR raised taxes on the poorest by about 250% during his term in office.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 18, 2012 10:01 PM (INNvP)

330 I am unnecessarily annoyed.

Has anyone else seen the new Dior commercial with Charlie Theron?

The ad is her, backstage at a huge show. Grace Kelly is there, as is Marilyn Monroe. Theron is hugging them as if she's their pal and then she takes to the runway as if she's the star of the show.

Now, don't get me wrong, Ms. Theron is a beautiful woman, but just how much convincing did she need to parallel herself to Kelly and Monroe.

What an ENORMOUS ego she must have.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 10:02 PM (piMMO)

331 The average American in the 1930's didn't even have a
high school diploma. They didn't know what communism was. Most people
of that era only knew Stalin when he was FDR's ally.

No internet. No television. No tie to read many books because you were trying to survive.

Get
off your superior attitude about my grandparents' generation. They
worked hard and did the best they could. Plus, the only information they
had was from newspapers and radio.

I think you need to go talk to some people in their 80's and find out what it was like back in the 1930's.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 18, 2012 09:56 PM (GoIUi)

_____________________
LOL. So voting for a guy who promises to steal from the rich and give to the poor was OK because they didn't have TV or the internet. Your argument is basically people in the 1930s were too stupid to understand what was happening. Please!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:03 PM (HDgX3)

332 Polaroid Swinger? Oh My!!

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 10:03 PM (AVfT8)

333 Robbin' the hood.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at December 18, 2012 10:03 PM (ovpNn)

334 Posted by: David Duke

THAT was funny. Yup.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 10:04 PM (4Mv1T)

335 Did web browsers stop navigating links, or something? I mean, I put a whole bunch of them in the post that lead to some fairly high-resolution (by web standards) photos. I would have included the images in the main body, but there are still some people with slow connections.

And, also, whining is fun to read.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:04 PM (m0h0I)

336 V in Navy parlance means the unit is a heavier than air unit. F means fighter. Just like CVN means Carrier Heavier than Air Nuclear.

Its okay Flanuer. Only reason I even know is because of Hans Joachim Marseilles aka the Star of Africa. Even now thinking about it makes me cross-eyed. If you really want to know I can try and rattle it off.
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2011/07/star-of-africa.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:04 PM (QdVWw)

337 When I was in 4th grade, the 4-H club offered two photography courses. I loved it, but my folks couldn't afford anything past an Instamatic, so I let it all go. Maybe now's the time to try again.


Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 18, 2012 09:48 PM


Dammit, man. Instamatics are fucking great!

Posted by: otho at December 18, 2012 10:05 PM (yBF/9)

338 LOL. So voting for a guy who promises to steal from the rich and give to the poor was OK because they didn't have TV or the internet. Your argument is basically people in the 1930s were too stupid to understand what was happening. Please!


****

Uneducated and stupid are two different things.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 10:05 PM (piMMO)

339 326
@308



#1.) Those are the marginal rates not the effective rates



#2.) Tax Loopholes were extensive



#3.) The number of people in the upper bracket were very small
relative to today, hence the consequences to the economy were very much
diminished compared to today.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 10:00 PM (uis79)

+++++++
So 81% marginal tax rates are OK as long as not too many people are affected. I'll remember that next time you freak out over a 39.6% tax rate applied to 1-2% of the population.
Don't you see the hypocrisy? We get all agitaed over a 39.6% tax rate and yet we're supposed to excuse an 81% tax rate from FDR because....well it was the 30s and times were tough.
Bullshit

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:05 PM (HDgX3)

340 Mr Moo Moo. Someone just needs to say it. And I've had just enough scotch to say it.

You are a fucking idiot. Please go shit on someone else's blog.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 10:06 PM (4Mv1T)

341 Did web browsers stop navigating links, or something? I mean, I put a whole bunch of them in the post that lead to some fairly high-resolution (by web standards) photos. I would have included the images in the main body, but there are still some people with slow connections.

And, also, whining is fun to read.


***

I clicked on all the links and they worked for me.

Gorgeous photos. I love the landscape.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 10:06 PM (piMMO)

342 jwb7605, it could be Fixed Wing but I usually ran across it being Heavier than Air. Of course that was in the original days when the Navy was still trying to figure out what to do with planes being launched from ships. Even though the carrier air wings are called CVW now, the guy in charge of all of them is still called the CAG or Commander Air Group.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:08 PM (QdVWw)

343 So for the FDR defenders...if next year unemployment is 25%, Obama decides to raise tax rate to 81%. You're all cool with that right? After all times are tough, right?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:08 PM (HDgX3)

344 340, I've heard somewheres that a Freshette will remove sand from the vaginal orifii so you could recommend that also.

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 10:09 PM (AVfT8)

345 341 Did web browsers stop navigating links.

It is my experience that different browsers operate VERY differently with this particular site. I use Chrome for commenting so formatting is not lost. Not sure about navigating links.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 10:09 PM (4Mv1T)

346 @339

"So 81% marginal tax rates are OK as long as not too many people are affected."

I didn't say that..I said 81% was the marginal rate and not many people would have paid that, if any. The government can only take in 18%-21% of GDP regardless of rates...it's called Behavioral Economics.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 10:09 PM (uis79)

347 Mrs. Duke and I took a class for our camera - best thing we did in preparing for trip to Ireland. Had some young kid explain all the Nikon digital features, how/when to use them, settings - even learned a little bit more about photography in general.

It was 90 minutes long, including a piss break. So it took about 1/2 the time as reading Tolstoy's post.

Posted by: David Duke at December 18, 2012 10:09 PM (m50qE)

348 You are a fucking idiot. Please go shit on someone else's blog.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 10:06 PM (4Mv1T)

______________
I may be an idiot. But I'm not a hypocrite like you.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:09 PM (HDgX3)

349 So for the FDR defenders...if next year unemployment is 25%, Obama decides to raise tax rate to 81%. You're all cool with that right? After all times are tough, right?

****

Oh dear Lord.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 10:09 PM (piMMO)

350 NDH, I think we have found the new corollary to land war in Asia. I will keep babbling about airplanes. Far safer.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:10 PM (QdVWw)

351 An independent panel charged with investigating the deadly Sept. 11 attack in Libya that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans has concluded that systematic management and leadership failures at the State Department led to "grossly" inadequate security at the mission in Benghazi.

Despite those failures, the Accountability Review Board determined that no individual officials ignored or violated their duties and recommended no disciplinary action now...

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

Move along. Nothing to see here.

Those Motherfuckers!

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at December 18, 2012 10:10 PM (mkb9H)

352 I've heard somewheres that a Freshette will remove sand from the vaginal orifii so you could recommend that also.

Grow your own oysters!

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 10:10 PM (4pSIn)

353 "FDR raised taxes on the poorest by about 250% during his term in office."

See, he did do something correctly.

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 10:10 PM (AVfT8)

354 Nice writeup above. I've been doing photography for some time now as I find it is a nice balance to my life as an engineer. You can find some of my work here. http://ralphbtelford.zenfolio.com

Posted by: RalphT5 at December 18, 2012 10:10 PM (qoD83)

355 Grow your own oysters!

Or pearls. Whichever you prefer.

Posted by: fluffy at December 18, 2012 10:12 PM (4pSIn)

356 is it either/or?

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 10:12 PM (AVfT8)

357 Various ways Man can kill his fellow Man.
http://tinyurl.com/cm98n9g

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:13 PM (QdVWw)

358 Your argument is basically people in the 1930s were too stupid to understand what was happening.

Government wasn't something that affected most people back then as obviously as it does today.

News of arcane things like Federal economic policy traveled slow if it traveled at all in the hinterlands, and trust in the government and media was higher.

I'd use "naive" rather than "stupid" to describe a rural nation that didn't have indoor plumbing or electricity in many areas. Its a grave mistake to conflate rural and uneducated with stupid.


Posted by: @PurpAv at December 18, 2012 10:13 PM (INNvP)

359 >>>Oh dear Lord.

Yes NDH. We are down to "I know I am, but what are you."

*sigh*

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 10:13 PM (4Mv1T)

360
I received a call from one of my renters. Aguy I let live at my warehouse was passed out on the floor, inside the door. He said he looked like he was beat up. I went to the warehouse and Larry was still on the floor with a blanket. He had blood on his face. He came around a bit and I asked what happened. Woozy, he answered he didn't know. He said he had vomited and crapped blood the night before. I looked in the bathroom and there was a pool of blood on the floor. He tried to stand but quickly sank back to the floor. He seemed to have a temperature and was shaking violently. I called 911 and they took him to the emergency. They rehydrated him and he is currently in ICU. Tests will begin tomorrow to see where the GI bleed is and why. I may have saved a mans life today.

Posted by: Ohio (Must a been on crack) Dan at December 18, 2012 10:14 PM (JKNDp)

361 ont up; thank the lord for small favors

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 18, 2012 10:14 PM (AVfT8)

362 We are down to "I know I am, but what are you."

*sigh*
Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 18, 2012 10:13 PM (4Mv1T)

NO that was last night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 18, 2012 10:15 PM (79ueO)

363 To review:

Obama is the devil himself for wanting a top rate of 39.6%

But FDR was just doing what he could to help the country when he imposed a top rate of 81%. Cuz you know, it was like tough living in the 30s and stuff.

I need some of that scotch.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:15 PM (HDgX3)

364 One of my bucket list items is pissing on FDR's grave...

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 18, 2012 10:15 PM (INNvP)

365 @ 341 / 354 -- Thanks, guys.

Those are some gorgeous hummingbird shots at 354. Looking forward to running through the rest!

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:15 PM (m0h0I)

366 Quick photo tip: open a picture in Photoshop, bump the contrast up by 10 to 15%. Click the preview button on and off to see the difference. Save and close.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at December 18, 2012 10:16 PM (79AXR)

367 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 18, 2012 10:02 PM (piMMO)

Theron is quite attractive, but Grace Kelly was stunningly beautiful....one of the most magnificent women in history.

Marlyn was no porker either.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 18, 2012 10:17 PM (GsoHv)

368 PurpAv, another grave to tinkle on - Sgt Provoo. He is buried at the Punchbowl even though he was an active collaborator with the Japanese. The US Army screwed up and gave him an Honorable.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:17 PM (QdVWw)

369 Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:15 PM (m0h0I)

I still like the dog and feet photo from the porch series.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 18, 2012 10:18 PM (GsoHv)

370 I was tired of reading after "to the average person..."

This was even longer than something Ace would post.

Posted by: Dogbert at December 18, 2012 10:18 PM (jWMIO)

371 Government wasn't something that affected most people back then as obviously as it does today.

News
of arcane things like Federal economic policy traveled slow if it
traveled at all in the hinterlands, and trust in the government and
media was higher.

I'd use "naive" rather than "stupid" to
describe a rural nation that didn't have indoor plumbing or electricity
in many areas. Its a grave mistake to conflate rural and uneducated with
stupid.




Posted by: @PurpAv at December 18, 2012 10:13 PM (INNvP)

________________
I'd maybe buy this argument for the 1932 election when people didn't really understand what FDR was all about. But in 1936 they re-elected him with 65% of the vote. And re-elected him again in 1940. It didn't take news 8 years to travel to the hinterlands in the 30s. They knew exactly what they were voting for in 1936 and 1940. FDR promised (and to his credit delivered) a whole bunch of freebies. And the people liked the freebies and voted for more.
** And yes I know he was re-elected in 1944 as well but that had more to do with the war than economics.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 18, 2012 10:19 PM (HDgX3)

372 336 V in Navy parlance means the unit is a heavier than air unit. F means fighter. Just like CVN means Carrier Heavier than Air Nuclear.

There are "a bunch" of designations for aircraft carriers.

http://tinyurl.com/br5dsd2

(I was on CVA-19 -- which I believe was the first one to be fitted with an angle deck after damage in the Battle of Leyte Gulf). It still (in 196 had a bent prop shaft, which made the cruise between Hawaii and the Philippines seem like sitting on a vibrating cell phone for 10 days.

VF-24 at the time flew the F8-J Crusader.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 18, 2012 10:19 PM (Qxe/p)

373 But FDR was just doing what he could to help the country when he imposed a top rate of 81%.

Soaking the rich is a play ever populist makes. Every single time. In any country. In any era. Whenever there's problems.

Its a universal constant, like the speed of light. If you're rich you can, move or ride it out. Whining gets you either reviled (as in the US), or more drastic measures as in France with the Jacobins. The Nazis weren't to gentle with pissy German aristocracy either.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 18, 2012 10:20 PM (INNvP)

374
While this post is interesting and informative, it doesn't help me take photos that make my junk look bigger.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2012 10:22 PM (Rhie+)

375 374
While this post is interesting and informative, it doesn't help me take photos that make my junk look bigger.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2012 10:22 PM (Rhie+)


That's a depth of field issue. Use a low F-stop.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 18, 2012 10:23 PM (Qxe/p)

376 @ 369 -- Thanks. That was taken with one of my cheap-ass Sears lenses. I need to get some hoods for those lenses to help eliminate the flare and retain more contrast.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:23 PM (m0h0I)

377 CVA-19 USS Hancock. A for Attack. First SCB-37C ship with hurricane bow, repositioned elevators, angled flight deck, mirror landing system, and other improvements. All Essex class carriers converted to SCB-37C standards were called Hancock class. USS Hancock was finally retired in 1976 IIRC.

F-8 Crusader, when you are out of Crusaders out of gunslingers. VF-24 the Red Rippers right?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:23 PM (QdVWw)

378 "...it doesn't help me take photos that make my junk look bigger."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 18, 2012 10:22 PM (Rhie+)

Try mine.

Posted by: Anthony Wiener at December 18, 2012 10:25 PM (GsoHv)

379 @ 374

-- You could always try the forced perspective technique. Hire a midget to hold it for you.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:25 PM (m0h0I)

380 F-8 Crusader, when you are out of Crusaders out of gunslingers. VF-24 the Red Rippers right?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 18, 2012 10:23 PM (QdVWw)


Fighting Renegades.
We did have a red checkerboard tail designation.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 18, 2012 10:27 PM (Qxe/p)

381 It didn't take news 8 years to travel to the hinterlands in the 30s.
They knew exactly what they were voting for in 1936 and 1940.


Staying out of the European "unpleasantness". That's what they thought they were voting for.

Landon got 7 EV. He was a joke candidate. Even McGovern picked up 17.

Willkie in 1940 won 8 more states than Landon, so the grumbling was starting.


Posted by: @PurpAv at December 18, 2012 10:30 PM (INNvP)

382 Nice Telford!

Posted by: Infidel at December 18, 2012 10:30 PM (z/wx3)

383 @363

Mr MooMoo,

Well your problem here is that I can tell your not familiar with 30's data or the economic analysis...so let me help you out a little.

I'm certainly not claiming 81% top rate marginal or effective rate is good, but 81% was the marginal rate, so only money earned over $1,000,000 was taxed at 81%, so research how many made $1,000,000 during that period....you might discover that you have been arguing for no reason.

Also, typically Democrats raise those rates, but nobody hardly pays them, because they also create Loophole structures along with rate increases. The reason is because they are more concerned about shaping behavior than they are raising revenue.

Also, we were not a Fiat currency in the 30's like now the dollar was still backed by gold, and the government did not hand out financial aid directly...they created "Make Work," so money was distributed through labor. This is what Obama sold us in the beginning and many conservatives agreed, and so would have Ronald Reagan, but the Democrats squandered the opportunity. Ron Reagan did the same type of stimulus, except he did it through military buildup and military technology through the private sector, but essentially the same task.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 18, 2012 10:30 PM (uis79)

384 DDR - Incredible post! Thanks so much for sharing!

Posted by: LaughingOutLoud! at December 18, 2012 10:36 PM (keqxh)

385 @ 384 -- My pleasure! And thanks for the kind words.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:40 PM (m0h0I)

386 What a great post! Learned a ton. Wouldn't read this stuff anywhere else probably, but since it was here ... well, you know. Anyhow that was great and thanks!

Posted by: and irresolute at December 18, 2012 10:47 PM (DBH1h)

387 @ 386 -- Thank you! I'm glad I could be of some help and appreciate your taking the time to read it.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 18, 2012 10:50 PM (m0h0I)

388 It's fun playing with old film SLR's too, which can be had for a song.

Posted by: Anon at December 19, 2012 08:34 AM (fh3lh)

389
This post rocks, DDRINO. Wealth of knowledge.
I guess some of this applies to my point and shoot that has the ASPM settings and the running dude... so I'll start there.

Posted by: SnowSun at December 19, 2012 10:19 AM (UAUr6)

390 @ 389
-- Sounds like you've got a pretty good point-and-shoot to work with. Just remember it doesn't cost anything to get bad exposures anymore and keep tinkering. You'll eventually develop a knack for it.

Thanks to everyone for all the comments. And if I overlooked anyone's comment, I apologize. I tried to keep up the best I could, but I'm just not used to actually having people respond.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 19, 2012 12:41 PM (m0h0I)

391 DDRINO, I've been using a simple digital Canon PowerShot A530 point-&-shoot camera since 2007. No filters, f-stops or lenses. Just point and shoot. Some minor Photoshop enhancements/cropping after. A few others with more aggressive Photoshopping for specific effect.

http://phototomas.deviantart.com/

(I need to add some recent photos from time in Mammoth, CA, a couple months ago.)

Been thinking about getting a new Canon p&s for under $400. Either the SX 50 HS, it's predecessor SX 40 HX, or the SX 500 IS. I like the higher optical zoom for distance shooting, and the 12 MP is good for viewing as a slide show on my big screen TV. Curious to know the comparative pros & cons of shutter speed for lag, and image sensor for low light.

Posted by: Trubador at December 19, 2012 01:27 PM (MlrAE)

392 @ 391 -- After checking out the specs on those cameras, the specs on the SX 50 HS stands out for a couple of reasons: First, it has a higher ISO range which, while you probably won't ever want to shoot anything at the top-end, does at least indicate that you have more flexibility. The second thing that really stands out to me, and the most important thing if you're really interested in getting the most out of your photos, is the fact that it shoots in RAW format. You can save a LOT of detail in your images that would otherwise be lost in deep shadows and blown highlights by shooting and editing RAW files rather than .jpeg.

Also, one review I read stated that it was pretty impressive in the shutter lag. So, of the three, I'd say that's the one to go with. I can't overstate the importance of being able to shoot in RAW format. That's not to say you'd want to do it all the time, because the files are pretty big. So, it may not be particularly useful for casual snapshots and candids. But, if you want the best image quality for landscapes, macros, etc., it's a huge benefit.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 19, 2012 02:55 PM (m0h0I)

393 Thanx for the tip. :-)

Posted by: Trubador at December 19, 2012 03:05 PM (MlrAE)

394 @ 393 -- One thing to consider is that a lot of image editing software doesn't handle RAW files. But, you can download Picasa for free. It will handle most RAW files and you can export them as jpegs for use on the web and other editing software for final touches. And it's a pretty good organizer to boot.

Posted by: DamnDirtyRINO at December 19, 2012 03:10 PM (m0h0I)

395 Sheet film is for enthusiasts. Or, if you really want to go retro, wet plates.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at December 20, 2012 06:17 PM (mw5ai)






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