Penn And Teller On Gun Control

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Comments

1 Damn you NSFW!

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 17, 2012 03:01 PM (GFM2b)

2 TELLER never talks but he DOES sometimes.

Posted by: elevenwing plover at December 17, 2012 03:02 PM (KXm42)

3 What? Violent overthrow of the United States government?

Why, if you even think about such things, you shouldn't even be talked to, because you're just crazy. Extremist gun nut teabagger warrer-on-woman...I don't know what else to call you, but I've been told you're my enemy, so you don't deserve rights.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at December 17, 2012 03:03 PM (Y/HG5)

4

hehe, awesome

Posted by: frozen beach at December 17, 2012 03:03 PM (LpQbZ)

5 Extremist gun nut teabagger warrer-on-woman

I hate those people.

Posted by: Patrick Moran at December 17, 2012 03:04 PM (O6q63)

6

New Drudge redline:

Shooting Doesn't Deter Huge Turnout At Gun Show; More Crowded Than In Past...

link at drudge

Posted by: frozen beach at December 17, 2012 03:04 PM (LpQbZ)

7 Why did the NRA shoot those poor little children?

Posted by: your betters in the Media at December 17, 2012 03:07 PM (bAGA/)

8 The first guy in the brown chair is a liar and an idiot. Do I need to watch the rest of this?

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2012 03:12 PM (53z96)

9 Why did the NRA shoot those poor little children?
Posted by: your betters in the Media at December 17, 2012 03:07 PM (bAGA/)


They were clearly working under the direction of Sarah Palin and the Koch brothers.

Posted by: Other examples of your betters in the Media at December 17, 2012 03:12 PM (4df7R)

10 I hate those people.
Posted by: Patrick Moran at December 17, 2012 03:04 PM (O6q63)


How's your son and his GF, Patty? They still good kids? Are they over their embarrassment yet?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 17, 2012 03:13 PM (4df7R)

11 The leftard worldview is amazing. They want to take my firearms away because a lunatic who should have been locked up wasn't and he killed kids, that had they been parial birth aborted would have been cheered as "Choice" by these same retarded leftards.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:14 PM (OlN4e)

12 Second guy is an idiot too.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2012 03:14 PM (53z96)

13 But I least got those 32 oz. Mountain Dews out of the criminal's hands. One success at a time, comrades.

Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at December 17, 2012 03:16 PM (71LDo)

14 How's your son and his GF, Patty? They still good kids? Are they over their embarrassment yet?

Leave me alone!!1! I'm a good kid.

H8er

Posted by: Pat Moran, special snowflake at December 17, 2012 03:17 PM (O6q63)

15
The Dems may try to bring back the idea of a 'Federal Gun Registration'...like they did in 2009, just as Barky took office.

It was Bobby Rush from Chicago, who put forth that Bill.
It didn't get very far.
But that was then...and this is now.

A Federal Gun Registration, as it was proposed...would require every gun owner to apply for a 'Federal Permit' in order for them to legally still own the guns that they already have.

The application for that Federal Permit, required you to list all the firearms that you have in your possession.
Perfect, huh?
That way they can say "permit denied!" and then they would have a list of what firearms you have.

Posted by: wheatie at December 17, 2012 03:17 PM (K4wCe)

16
"The leftard worldview is amazing. They want to take my firearms away because a lunatic who should have been locked up wasn't"

And of course the reason why the lunatic wasn't locked up was because of leftards having destroyed the concept of involuntary institutionalization. Thanks to their idea that the insane have "civil rights".

Letting crazy people out of the asylums onto the public streets didn't make the crazies any less crazy. It just turned the public streets into an open air asylum.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 17, 2012 03:19 PM (ymG7s)

17 PT.

I started to click on the arrow and then I just thought ...meh.

Loud suit hippie/hipster guy schtick.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2012 03:19 PM (KXm42)

18 It's too bad I lost all my firearms in a woodchipper accident.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at December 17, 2012 03:19 PM (ZWvOb)

19 Letting crazy people out of the asylums onto the public streets didn't make the crazies any less crazy. It just turned the public streets into an open air asylum.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 17, 2012 03:19 PM (ymG7s) Exactly.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:20 PM (OlN4e)

20 No ampersands even? This place is a dick.

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2012 03:20 PM (KXm42)

21 It's too bad I lost all my firearms in a woodchipper accident.>>

Mine were all eaten by PVC pipe worms.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 17, 2012 03:21 PM (81UWZ)

22 John Lott has a LOT of good pro-gun books.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2012 03:21 PM (53z96)

23 When you seal your guns in PVC pipes, make sure you bury them under anabandoned car that has been in place for decades. Makes metal detectors useless.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:22 PM (OlN4e)

24 I honestly don't think the Left is going to win on this issue, and if anything it will probably decimate Democrats outside of urban, coastal states in 2014 if they overreach.

Oh, the gun grabbers might get something meaningless like a return to 10 round magazines for semi-automatics, which will accomplish absolutely nothing since there are millions of 100% legal large-capacity magazines, but I don't see a real transformation of our 2nd Amendment rights from this tragedy.

I actually think gun control is one of the few issues americans are actually somewhat "wise". Anyone with a shred of intellectual honesty knows these shooting have everything to do with mental illness and absolutely nothing to do with our gun laws, and I think even the dumb shits in our country get that.

Posted by: McAdams at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (h7ZMs)

25 There was a guy in Alhambra, a suburb of LA, who owned a pharmacy and shot and killed 4 or 6 people who tried to rob his pharmacy. All were armed with guns.

Then there was a guy on SMBlvd who ownedn a pawn shop who was also robbed and shot 6 would be robbers, also armed.

The cops and so called "community activists" made their lives miserable. What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)

26 Not enough bandwidth to watch at work. Will have to wait.

PnT are usually pretty entertaining and their Bullshit series is top shelf. The recycling one cracked me up, with the guy who was good with 12 recycling bins.

Posted by: sTevo at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (Q5+aX)

27 Hmm... So I just read that The Lanzas were originally from NH; Kingston, NH, to be exact. One of the reports I read said that the mother, Nancy Lanza, grew up in a "rural NH town;'" the implication being "backward" and "hickish." Well, it might be rural to non-NHites, but Kingston is right smack dab in the middle of one of the most built up, populous, wealthiest regions in the state, Rockingham County, just a stone's throw from Portsmouth, Salem, Exeter, and the Mass border. By NH standards that ain't "rural."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (4df7R)

28 I love that the same fucking liberals who spend so much time reminding me that not all Muslims are terrorists are not screaming that every gun-owner is a criminal.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (fwARV)

29
>>It's too bad I lost all my firearms in a woodchipper accident.>>

>>Mine were all eaten by PVC pipe worms.

I knew I shouldn't have kept them on that sinking boat

Posted by: Ben at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (C2Y4l)

30 The cops and so called "community activists" made their lives miserable. What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die?
Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)

You sound awfully uppity for a peon.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (FsUAO)

31 25
There was a guy in Alhambra, a suburb of LA, who owned a pharmacy and
shot and killed 4 or 6 people who tried to rob his pharmacy. All were
armed with guns.



Then there was a guy on SMBlvd who ownedn a pawn shop who was also robbed and shot 6 would be robbers, also armed.



The cops and so called "community activists" made their lives miserable. What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)
Would you actually be surprised if the answer was yes?

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (uFY4s)

32 29

>>It's too bad I lost all my firearms in a woodchipper accident.>>

>>Mine were all eaten by PVC pipe worms.

I knew I shouldn't have kept them on that sinking boat

Posted by: Ben at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (C2Y4l)
Why, just why, did I leave them in the hotel room with the hooker

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:25 PM (uFY4s)

33 Just watched youtube video "innocents betrayed". Couldn't be a more timely message.

There is only one reason to disarm the citizens. And it ain't pretty.


Posted by: Derak at December 17, 2012 03:25 PM (lkjWK)

34 What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die? Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)

No, they expected them to give everything to the robbers, not make waves, and go bankrupt. Getting shot and dying was just ONE option.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (4df7R)

35 28
I love that the same fucking liberals who spend so much time reminding
me that not all Muslims are terrorists are not screaming that every
gun-owner is a criminal.


Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (fwARV)
One is about ideology the other is about the "VICTIM"

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (uFY4s)

36 The cops and so called "community activists" made their lives miserable. What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM



That's what a professional calls a "rhetorical question."

Posted by: your betters in the Media at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (bAGA/)

37 34
What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die? Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)



No, they expected them to give everything to the robbers, not make
waves, and go bankrupt. Getting shot and dying was just ONE option.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (4df7R)
why not both

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (uFY4s)

38 It's too bad I lost all my firearms in a woodchipper accident.
In a moment of clarity, I tossed all mine in the middle of Lake Michigan.

Posted by: Roland THTG at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (I7O5y)

39

Best part of this video above...starts at around 19:10 where they start exploding the myth of the 'Gun Free Zone'.

"All of these mass shootings have occurred at Gun Free Zones."

Posted by: wheatie at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (K4wCe)

40

Figures. After Tim Scott Announcement – Cries of “Token Black” and “House Negro” Begin

gatewaypundit.com

Simultaneously slamming a female Governor's decision making.

Posted by: frozen beach at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (LpQbZ)

41 15

The Dems may try to bring back the idea of a 'Federal Gun Registration'...like they did in 2009, just as Barky took office.

It was Bobby Rush from Chicago, who put forth that Bill.
It didn't get very far.
But that was then...and this is now.

A
Federal Gun Registration, as it was proposed...would require every gun
owner to apply for a 'Federal Permit' in order for them to legally still
own the guns that they already have.

The application for that Federal Permit, required you to list all the firearms that you have in your possession.
Perfect, huh?
That way they can say "permit denied!" and then they would have a list of what firearms you have.


Posted by: wheatie at December 17, 2012 03:17 PM (K4wCe)
Even with the DEMONRATS in power I don't see that happening

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (uFY4s)

42 It's too bad I lost all my firearms in a woodchipper accident.>>Mine were all eaten by PVC pipe worms.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 17, 2012 03:21 PM (81UWZ)


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Just a question. Could a metal detector locate guns buried in a pvc pipe? I'm thinking they could. And if they come after our weapons, they'll be coming with metal detectors.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (I1x6h)

43 40




Figures. After Tim Scott Announcement – Cries of “Token Black” and “House Negro” Begin



gatewaypundit.com



Simultaneously slamming a female Governor's decision making.

Posted by: frozen beach at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (LpQbZ)
whodathunkit

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:28 PM (uFY4s)

44 I bet the "community activists" were lead by "reverends".

Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2012 03:28 PM (KXm42)

45
12
Second guy is an idiot too.


Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2012 03:14 PM (53z96)


I sense a pattern.

And what the hell? Some cartoon's sex toy gets to guest blog but I'm not allowed to do a post on boobehs? For shame Ace.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 17, 2012 03:28 PM (da5Wo)

46 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:29 PM (jWwDJ)

47 Soona, see 23

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:29 PM (OlN4e)

48 Again, the problem with this, and many other issues is the fact that Liberal Opinions get air time on Television and in Newspapers/Magazine, and Conservative opinions get discussed ad nauseum on Conservative blogs.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 17, 2012 03:29 PM (bb5+k)

49 *geezer plays the 'I used to work them' card, laying it softly besides the Mr. Paul Anka, card.

Posted by: Retired Geezer at December 17, 2012 03:29 PM (r8xWd)

50 The momentum is against 'Gun Control' worldwide

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:29 PM (uFY4s)

51 46

Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:29 PM (jWwDJ)
I think i just earned my first deadly sin

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:30 PM (uFY4s)

52 Just a question. Could a metal detector locate guns
buried in a pvc pipe? I'm thinking they could. And if they come after
our weapons, they'll be coming with metal detectors.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (I1x6h)

After you bury the pvc pipe, you scatter shot the entire area with buckshot. Too much metal. Drive 'em nuts looking for needles in the haystack.

Posted by: Derak at December 17, 2012 03:30 PM (lkjWK)

53 44
I bet the "community activists" were lead by "reverends".


Posted by: eleven at December 17, 2012 03:28 PM (KXm42)
I wouldn't bet against that notion

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:30 PM (uFY4s)

54 Just a question. Could a metal detector locate guns buried in a pvc
pipe? I'm thinking they could. And if they come after our weapons,
they'll be coming with metal detectors.>>

They'll hopefully get bored digging up the farm yard that is littered with a centuries worth of metal bits before they get to the tubes.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 17, 2012 03:31 PM (81UWZ)

55 By NH standards that ain't "rural."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 17, 2012 03:24 PM (4df7R)


By our standards, anything north of The Bronx is considered Bumblefuck, Nowhere.

Posted by: The MFM at December 17, 2012 03:31 PM (W7ffl)

56 52
Just a question. Could a metal detector locate guns

buried in a pvc pipe? I'm thinking they could. And if they come after

our weapons, they'll be coming with metal detectors.



Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (I1x6h)

After
you bury the pvc pipe, you scatter shot the entire area with buckshot.
Too much metal. Drive 'em nuts looking for needles in the haystack.


Posted by: Derak at December 17, 2012 03:30 PM (lkjWK)
Why does it sound like you have done this before?

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:32 PM (uFY4s)

57 One is about ideology the other is about the "VICTIM"


Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (uFY4s)

Also interesting that there were no calls for gun control when Hassan shot up Ft. Hood.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:33 PM (fwARV)

58 The leftard worldview is amazing. They want to take
my firearms away because a lunatic who should have been locked up wasn't
and he killed kids, that had they been parial birth aborted would have
been cheered as "Choice" by these same retarded leftards.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:14 PM (OlN4e)


It's more than that. It is my understanding that the perpetrator was being raised by a single mother. It is my belief that single women are not well suited to raise male children without the male children developing narcissistic or psychopathic tendencies. There is a certain benefit to having a male around to impart some self control to the little buggers by smacking the shit out of them when they start r mouthing off.

And thereby they learn how to behave in society.






Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 17, 2012 03:33 PM (bb5+k)

59 Anything greater than 250 people per square mile is considered suburban by Nebraskan Standards

Posted by: Alexioi at December 17, 2012 03:33 PM (uFY4s)

60 If the right to bear arms is obsolete, so is freedom of the press. No one NEEDS to own a newspaper or television channel. Arrest the journalists now.

Hell, as we see every midterm election, the majority of Americans think no one NEEDS to vote! We could save millions of tax dollars by skipping the whole vote fraud stage altogether.

Posted by: King George at December 17, 2012 03:33 PM (MyJgf)

61 Why does it sound like you have done this before?


Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:32 PM (uFY4s)

Hah. Rushbabe posted a you tube video by Missouri Prepper last weekend that showed not only how to make such tubes, but how to camoflage it from metal detection. I thought it was pretty interesting.

Posted by: Derak at December 17, 2012 03:34 PM (lkjWK)

62 57
One is about ideology the other is about the "VICTIM"




Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:26 PM (uFY4s)

Also interesting that there were no calls for gun control when Hassan shot up Ft. Hood.


Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:33 PM (fwARV)
It would not get any popular support at all since it was obviously a terrorist attack. Few people are so dumb as to not see a motive there.

Posted by: Alexioi at December 17, 2012 03:34 PM (uFY4s)

63 CNN: "Do you know who owns more than a 6% stake in the maker of .223 Bushmaster rifles, like the one used last Friday to murder 20 first graders and seven adults in Newtown, Connecticut? California public schoolteachers."

Clearly, we should ban schoolteachers in California.

Posted by: Jordan at December 17, 2012 03:34 PM (Hz1zc)

64 "Federal Gun Registration, as it was proposed...would require every gun

owner to apply for a 'Federal Permit' in order for them to legally still

own the guns that they already have.

The application for that Federal Permit, required you to list all the firearms that you have in your possession."


I honestly hope Democrats try that shit. Maybe that will finally wake up the retard conservatives that stayed at home. I see a tsunami like 1994 if they pull a stunt like that.

Registration ALWAYS comes right before a Roundup.

I will say the NRA does a good job of drawing the line and not making compromises. Who cares if they aren't beloved by the beautiful people.


Posted by: McAdams at December 17, 2012 03:35 PM (h7ZMs)

65 60
If the right to bear arms is obsolete, so is freedom of the press. No
one NEEDS to own a newspaper or television channel. Arrest the
journalists now.



Hell, as we see every midterm election, the majority of Americans
think no one NEEDS to vote! We could save millions of tax dollars by
skipping the whole vote fraud stage altogether.

Posted by: King George at December 17, 2012 03:33 PM (MyJgf)
We also don't need the third amendment anymore either. Bring the Hessians forth

Posted by: Alexioi at December 17, 2012 03:35 PM (uFY4s)

66 63
CNN: "Do you know who owns more than a 6% stake in the maker of .223
Bushmaster rifles, like the one used last Friday to murder 20 first
graders and seven adults in Newtown, Connecticut? California public
schoolteachers."



Clearly, we should ban schoolteachers in California.



Posted by: Jordan at December 17, 2012 03:34 PM (Hz1zc)
They are also the biggest donators to the democratic party so I am in favor of that motion

Posted by: Alexioi at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (uFY4s)

67 Clearly, we should ban schoolteachers in California.



Posted by: Jordan at December 17, 2012 03:34 PM (Hz1zc)

I think you added too many words. "schoolteachers in" just doesn't belong in that sentence.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (fwARV)

68 If I was a government cockbite inpector, and I located ground seeded with buckshot, I would put in a call for the backhoe, as it would be like a huge sign that says "dig here".

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (OlN4e)

69 >>>Could a metal detector locate guns

buried in a pvc pipe?

Yes. The only thing that prevents a metal detector from detecting a metal object is encasing it in a bigger metal object the metal detector would detect instead.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (0q2P7)

70 Another question. If they would have a federal registration and I refused to register my guns, even though OK has the famous "Make My Day" laws, and if I used them in self-defense for any reason, I could be held liable and/or sent to prison for illegal guns, am I right?

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (I1x6h)

71 64
"Federal Gun Registration, as it was proposed...would require every gun


owner to apply for a 'Federal Permit' in order for them to legally still


own the guns that they already have.

The application for that Federal Permit, required you to list all the firearms that you have in your possession."


I
honestly hope Democrats try that shit. Maybe that will finally wake up
the retard conservatives that stayed at home. I see a tsunami like 1994
if they pull a stunt like that.

Registration ALWAYS comes right before a Roundup.

I
will say the NRA does a good job of drawing the line and not making
compromises. Who cares if they aren't beloved by the beautiful people.




Posted by: McAdams at December 17, 2012 03:35 PM (h7ZMs)

Oh your too kind

Posted by: Helen Thomas at December 17, 2012 03:37 PM (uFY4s)

72


Gallup Top Ten Liberal States

1. District of Columbia
2. Rhode Island
3. Connecticut...
4. Vermont



http://tinyurl.com/2f9y8qd

Posted by: frozen beach at December 17, 2012 03:37 PM (LpQbZ)

73 Just say to your Progressive "gun control" advocate ...

"... you may trust Obama, but imagine Sarah Palin as President ..."

Posted by: Charlton Heston at December 17, 2012 03:37 PM (e8kgV)

74 Nice.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 17, 2012 03:37 PM (HDgX3)

75 68
If I was a government cockbite inpector, and I located ground seeded
with buckshot, I would put in a call for the backhoe, as it would be
like a huge sign that says "dig here".

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (OlN4e)
Not exactly. What if you did this to multiple fields, even ones with no guns in them

Posted by: Helen Thomas at December 17, 2012 03:38 PM (uFY4s)

76 >>>Could a metal detector locate guns


buried in a pvc pipe?

Yes. The only thing that prevents a
metal detector from detecting a metal object is encasing it in a bigger
metal object the metal detector would detect instead.


Hmmm come to think of it. I guess you could use the anti-magnetic properties of supercooled superconductors to block a metal detectors magnetic field. I don't know there is a practical mechanism to make that work though.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 17, 2012 03:38 PM (0q2P7)

77 oops

Posted by: Off sock at December 17, 2012 03:38 PM (uFY4s)

78 Moloch is your one true god isn't he.

Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 17, 2012 03:38 PM (HL0e9)

79 If I had to bury a metal object and was worried about metal detectors, I'd bury it under a metal drainage pipe, metal cable, or something like that.

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 17, 2012 03:39 PM (x6tId)

80
Posted by: Helen Thomas at December 17, 2012 03:38 PM (uFY4s)




That would be a truckload of buckshot.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:39 PM (OlN4e)

81 Supporters and opponents alike of gun
control will point to this fact in the coming days: Connecticut already
has some of the toughest restrictions on gun laws in the United States.

Posted by: Charlton Heston at December 17, 2012 03:40 PM (e8kgV)

82 I don't know there is a practical mechanism to make that work though.

First, reconfigure the main deflector array to emit an inverse tachyon beam.

Posted by: Ensign Crusher, fresh from exercising patriarchy over Ensign Puffy at December 17, 2012 03:40 PM (JACEX)

83 78: how wonderful, now please get off my turf

Posted by: Gerg at December 17, 2012 03:40 PM (uFY4s)

84 That vid was great. The first guy sittin in the chair was a douche.

Posted by: Infidel at December 17, 2012 03:40 PM (z/wx3)

85 I'm the troll around here

Posted by: Gerg at December 17, 2012 03:40 PM (uFY4s)

86 The same liberals who tell us we don't need to check id when people come to vote, are the same ones trying to make it so we have to go through the Spanish Inquisition getting a gun, if we're that lucky.

Posted by: EC at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (GQ8sn)

87 82
I don't know there is a practical mechanism to make that work though.

First, reconfigure the main deflector array to emit an inverse tachyon beam.


Posted by: Ensign Crusher, fresh from exercising patriarchy over Ensign Puffy at December 17, 2012 03:40 PM (JACEX)
Making shit up; a true democrat platform

Posted by: Gerg at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (uFY4s)

88 Mabel has an ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MSM at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (fWAjv)

89
Soona,

That Bill that was put forth, to create a 'Federal Registry'...made it a crime to have any firearms in your possession that weren't covered by your 'Federal Permit'.
With a 10 year sentence, for any violations.

Posted by: wheatie at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (K4wCe)

90 Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:36 PM (OlN4e)

ayup. Nothing gets by those guv't geniuses.
Full employment plan. They'll have backhoes in every yard. Maybe they should make them dig with spoons. More employement!

Posted by: Derak at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (lkjWK)

91
When does anyone need an assault weapon?
It helps mostly when the guys loading the boxcars taking you to the campsalso have them.

Posted by: Roy at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (tiOTz)

92 Well, whaddya know. Our little troll is back. Hi there, little troll.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:42 PM (I1x6h)

93 The same liberals who tell us we don't need to check id when people come
to vote, are the same ones trying to make it so we have to go through
the Spanish Inquisition getting a gun, if we're that lucky.


Good point. If ID's not required to vote - because it's a Constitutional right, then ID's not required to buy a gun.

VICTORY!

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:43 PM (fwARV)

94 92
Well, whaddya know. Our little troll is back. Hi there, little troll.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:42 PM (I1x6h)
Your referring to his penis size yes

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:43 PM (uFY4s)

95 Oh, 78, you are so wrong.

There is just one God. Freedom is what my God gave me. He expects me to take care of his gifts.

Posted by: huerfano at December 17, 2012 03:44 PM (bAGA/)

96 93
The same liberals who tell us we don't need to check id when people come

to vote, are the same ones trying to make it so we have to go through

the Spanish Inquisition getting a gun, if we're that lucky.


Good point. If ID's not required to vote - because it's a Constitutional right, then ID's not required to buy a gun.

VICTORY!


Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:43 PM (fwARV)
I believe one should have ID for both

Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:44 PM (uFY4s)

97 I just checked .223/5.56 ammo prices. What was in stock last week is almost all gone, and the prices have gone up 25-30%.

Get your shit now if you haven't already done so.

Posted by: EC at December 17, 2012 03:44 PM (GQ8sn)

98 That Bill that was put forth, to create a 'Federal Registry'...made it a crime to have any firearms in your possession that weren't covered by your 'Federal Permit'. With a 10 year sentence, for any violations.
Posted by: wheatie at December 17, 2012 03:41 PM (K4wCe)


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I don't think prisons would be big enough to hold all of the people who'd refuse to abide by this law. I think this is where they'd finally build the "camps".

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:45 PM (I1x6h)

99 Mabel has an ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!!>>

I used to laugh at the obligatory picture they would take after a bust showing all the guns on the bed. There would usualy be less than 5 and it would be an ARSENAL!!!!!!!!!!!. They apparently hang around with the same people I do cause that's just a start.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 17, 2012 03:45 PM (81UWZ)

100 The MFM is in full anti-gun mode. Yahoo headlines:

Why we should politicize the Newtown school shooting, starting right now by Jeff Greenfield

Most Back Ban on High-Capacity Clips

Madison never meant Second Amendment to allow guns of Sandy Hook shooting by Aaron Burger of the "Christian" Science Monitor




There's no more news. Just propaganda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 03:45 PM (1Jaio)

101 Get your shit now

Good thing I left a bunch of it in the hallway ...

Posted by: some NYer at December 17, 2012 03:45 PM (JACEX)

102 I believe one should have ID for both


Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:44 PM (uFY4s)

So do I. I'm just applying liberal logic consistently.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (fwARV)

103 100
The MFM is in full anti-gun mode. Yahoo headlines:

Why we should politicize the Newtown school shooting, starting right now by Jeff Greenfield

Most Back Ban on High-Capacity Clips

Madison never meant Second Amendment to allow guns of Sandy Hook shooting by Aaron Burger of the "Christian" Science Monitor




There's no more news. Just propaganda



Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 03:45 PM (1Jaio)
Yahoo Used to have news? whodathunkit

Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (uFY4s)

104 Get your shit now if you haven't already done so.
Posted by: EC at December 17, 2012 03:44 PM (GQ8sn)


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Already did. Way ahead of ya'.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (I1x6h)

105 I have an advantage in my access to extremely rough terrain. Locate an old junkpile out in the woods in terrain too rough to get equipment into and bury part of your stash. Then locate another spot for another cache. Then another. They might find two or three, but an army of government imbeciles would never find but a couple. This is moonshine country. Old stills througout the hills. Most convenient.

Posted by: maddogg at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (OlN4e)

106 102
I believe one should have ID for both




Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:44 PM (uFY4s)

So do I. I'm just applying liberal logic consistently.


Posted by: washington nearsider at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (fwARV)
Making shit up; maxim number 1 for democratsInconsistency; Maxi number 2

Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (uFY4s)

107
Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 17, 2012 03:38 PM (HL0e9)

How many babies were killed today at abortion clinics?

Posted by: wheatie at December 17, 2012 03:46 PM (K4wCe)

108 Maxim Number 3; emotions are to be used exclusively

Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:47 PM (uFY4s)

109 Arguing that “all of us are residents” of the
Connecticut town where 20 first-graders were massacred, Mayor Rahm
Emanuel called Monday for a “vote of conscience” on an assault weapons
ban in Congress and in the Illinois General Assembly.
At a Navy Pier graduation ceremony for 41 police
recruits and 40 new sergeants, Emanuel said his efforts to put more
police officers on the street, lengthen the school day and bolster after
school programs will fall short unless Congress re-enacts the assault
weapons ban that expired in 2004.



Cause that's gonna make Chicago much safer than the war zone it is now. I'm surprised that Tiny Dancer had time for the graduation ceremony what with the vending machine snacks running out of control

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 03:48 PM (1Jaio)

110 40 million per year/ 365 days in a year means roughly 110000 people

Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:48 PM (uFY4s)

111
Good point. If ID's not required to vote - because it's a Constitutional right, then ID's not required to buy a gun.
VICTORY!

Posted by: washington nearsider






Why, look over there. A living document!

Let's see if we can find its penumbra....

Posted by: The Guys in DC Passing an "Assault Weapons" Ban

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 17, 2012 03:48 PM (kdS6q)

112 What we need is for a conservative to submit a bill that makes it a felony with a ten year prison sentence for anyone who proposes a bill that violates the 2nd amendment and denies Americans their freedom.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2012 03:48 PM (53z96)

113 109
Arguing that “all of us are residents” of the

Connecticut town where 20 first-graders were massacred, Mayor Rahm

Emanuel called Monday for a “vote of conscience” on an assault weapons

ban in Congress and in the Illinois General Assembly.

At a Navy Pier graduation ceremony for 41 police

recruits and 40 new sergeants, Emanuel said his efforts to put more

police officers on the street, lengthen the school day and bolster after

school programs will fall short unless Congress re-enacts the assault

weapons ban that expired in 2004.


Cause that's gonna
make Chicago much safer than the war zone it is now. I'm surprised that
Tiny Dancer had time for the graduation ceremony what with the vending
machine snacks running out of control


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 03:48 PM (1Jaio)
Aren't most gang murders done with Glocks?

Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:49 PM (uFY4s)

114 Thanks a lot West Virginia.

"This awful massacre has changed where we go from here. Our conversation should move beyond dialogue" says Sen. Joe Manchin (Democrat). But but but but he swore up and down he's a Democrat but he's pro gun. Right? Right?

And the same big FUCK YOU goes to gun owning Democrat voters in Montana, N. Dakota, Indiana and Missouri too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 17, 2012 03:49 PM (HDgX3)

115

52

Just a question. Could a metal detector locate guns


buried in a pvc pipe? I'm thinking they could. And if they come after


our weapons, they'll be coming with metal detectors.





Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:27 PM (I1x6h)

After

you bury the pvc pipe, you scatter shot the entire area with buckshot.

Too much metal. Drive 'em nuts looking for needles in the haystack.




Posted by: Derak at December 17, 2012 03:30 PM (lkjWK)
Why does it sound like you have done this before?


Posted by: Alex at December 17, 2012 03:32 PM (uFY4s)








Nah. Dig down about 3 ft in a flower bed next to your fence. Then dig about 3 feet sideways UNDER THE FENCE so that the PVC container actually sits under your hoplophobe libtard neighbor's backyard.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 17, 2012 03:49 PM (TIIx5)

116 I just made myself depressed by figuring out the 110000 murdered a year stat
I need a christmas kitty

Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:50 PM (uFY4s)

117 Most Back Ban on High-Capacity Clips


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 03:45 PM (1Jaio)

To be quite honest I am very much in favor of a total ban on 30 round clips.

Posted by: MSM at December 17, 2012 03:50 PM (fWAjv)

118 off you damn media sock

Posted by: RWC at December 17, 2012 03:51 PM (fWAjv)

119 Maxim Number 3; emotions are to be used exclusively
Posted by: whodathunkit at December 17, 2012 03:47 PM (uFY4s)


--------------------------------------------


Maxim 4: For all future laws -- refer to maxim 3.

Maxim 5: Executing laws -- refer to maxim 3.

Maxim 6: Punishing lawbreakers -- refer to maxim 3.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 03:52 PM (I1x6h)

120
Aren't most gang murders done with Glocks?
Posted by: whodathunkit





“a Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon.”

Ed Schultz MSNBC

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 17, 2012 03:53 PM (kdS6q)

121 Burying your guns in the back yard makes them unusable.

Posted by: Vic at December 17, 2012 03:53 PM (53z96)

122
I don't believe I'll hide a single weapon I own. The Constitution affirms my right to keep and bear, so that will do just fine.

I will NOT allow any entity to seize those tools.


In any case, should things deteriorate to that extent, lawful government will long have ceased to exist.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 17, 2012 03:53 PM (SAMxH)

123 25 The cops and so called "community activists" made their lives miserable. What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die?
Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)


Yes. Bullet-ridden corpses make for excellent props for the left, because they are "victims of society" that no doubt is in need of fundamental transformation.

To defend yourself, as is your G-d given right under the Constitution, destroys that meme. So you must be destroyed.

One way or another.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2012 03:54 PM (XkWWK)

124










Iowan who was world's oldest person dies at 115http://is.gd/ljmJyP

We should ban longevity.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 17, 2012 03:54 PM (/kI1Q)

125
AIDS killed more Americans last year than guns. So, will we be outlawing dicks? Gay dicks?
(channeling my inner Louis CK)

Posted by: JDW at December 17, 2012 03:54 PM (g2rsW)

126

Sad part of the video, where the woman describes how she had to watch her parents getting killed. And, the frustration she felt following the law by leaving her gun in the car.

Posted by: frozen beach at December 17, 2012 03:54 PM (LpQbZ)

127 I agree with irongrandpa.

Posted by: Infidel at December 17, 2012 03:55 PM (z/wx3)

128 The left just wants to grab guns so they can terrorize, punish, and kill the middle class.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 17, 2012 03:56 PM (iO3BG)

129 I'm very sick today. It sucks because I really wanted to dig into the content.


To everyone who is contributing: I will definitely read when I feel better.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 17, 2012 03:57 PM (I2LwF)

130 The cops and so called "community activists" made their lives miserable. What did they expect them to do? Get shot and die?
Posted by: Walkers! at December 17, 2012 03:23 PM (jWwDJ)



Yes. Seriously, that's the logical conclusion of those who complain about people protecting themselves with guns. They are angry at those people for living.


Oh my lord, I read part of that article in the sidebar and I was nearly overwhelmed with the urge to pat the writer on the head.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Tick tock tick tock. at December 17, 2012 03:57 PM (VtjlW)

131 Bloomberg was asked by a reporter to respond to Rep. Louie Gohmert’s comments over the weekend that he wished the principal of the school, who died trying to take down shooter Adam Lanza, had a gun. Bloomberg responded by saying, “There are dumb statements and then there are stupid statements…..I don’t know what the gun would have done.”


... and that is why Bloomberg is unqualified to be President

Posted by: Charlton Heston at December 17, 2012 03:57 PM (e8kgV)

132 If you wanted to bury your gun, why the hell did you bother acquiring it in the first place?

That's about as practical as a flap holster in a quick-draw contest.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at December 17, 2012 03:58 PM (Qxe/p)

133 When these commies push the idea that the government should decide what we can and can't do, they get the whole idea of America backwards.

Everything that they say and do is for the opposite purpose. Progressives are regressives in disguise.

So when they say that they want to protect citizens by taking away their guns they really want to protect themselves and their centrally planned totalitarian oligarchy.

The best insight in that piece was that Columbine was a "gun free zone".

Posted by: ontherocks at December 17, 2012 03:58 PM (aZ6ew)

134 I will NOT allow any entity to seize those tools.In any case, should things deteriorate to that extent, lawful government will long have ceased to exist.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 17, 2012 03:53 PM (SAMxH)


---------------------------------------------


And this is where I'll make my stand. If they come for what's mine Consitutionally, then I'll be making the news too.

It really is time to start saying "fuck you" to DC.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (I1x6h)

135 Go ahead and ban 30-round clips.Highest capacity clipI ever saw was just eight rounds anyway.

Now, high-capacity magazines - leave them alone.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (w41GQ)

136 We should ban longevity.



Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 17, 2012 03:54 PM (/kI1Q)

Already on it.

Posted by: the Department of Health and Human Services at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (rmdRH)

137 Handguns used to kill at a school. The takeaway for liberals - ban assault rifles.

This isn't about the school at all. This is about control.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (iO3BG)

138 Bloomberg was asked by a reporter to respond to Rep. Louie Gohmert’s comments over the weekend that he wished the principal of the school, who died trying to take down shooter Adam Lanza, had a gun. Bloomberg responded by saying, “There are dumb statements and then there are stupid statements…..I don’t know what the gun would have done.”


... and that is why Bloomberg is unqualified to be President
Posted by: Charlton Heston at December 17, 2012 03:57 PM (e8kgV)


Ah perhaps you have not noticed, but the bar to be President is set pretty low now a days? Just saying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (79ueO)

139 Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (w41GQ)

Glad you got the meaning of the statement.

Posted by: RWC at December 17, 2012 04:04 PM (fWAjv)

140 “…..I don’t know what the gun would have done.”

I thought guns automagically killed people...did someone just accidentally admit that guns have no agency of their own?

Huh.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 17, 2012 04:04 PM (/kI1Q)

141 The moral of the story: make sure your party's Senate candidates clam up when it comes to rape, or else the gun-grabbers get elected. Still don't understand MT and ND, Romney won those states easily. But, what the hell, Tester brings home the pork.

Posted by: Lt. Resentment at December 17, 2012 04:04 PM (/Bbvl)

142 Iowan who was world's oldest person dies at 115http://is.gd/ljmJyP

We should ban longevity.



Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 17, 2012 03:54 PM (/kI1Q)


I'm pretty sure it is in Obamacare.

Posted by: Tami at December 17, 2012 04:04 PM (X6akg)

143 Sad part of the video, where the woman describes how she had to watch her parents getting killed. And, the frustration she felt following the law by leaving her gun in the car.
Posted by: frozen beach


Now may or may not be the best of times to fight back with personal tragedies but it's exactly what is needed to hold off the fascists.

The Left lives to exploit tragedy, to cover themselves in pathos, and declare "Something must be done!" We'd do well to bring our own emo-ganda to the battle and shove it down their throats.

You there in favor of banning guns, tell this women she can't defend herself against her insane ex. Tell this vet that his service to his country now includes dying on a street corner for pocket change. Tell this immigrant store owner that his livelihood is less important than a thug's.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 17, 2012 04:04 PM (AsRy8)

144 Ah perhaps you have not noticed, but the bar to be President is set pretty low now a days? Just saying
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (79ueO)


-------------------------------------------------


Unfortunately, it's a direct reflection on 51% of this society.

Posted by: Soona at December 17, 2012 04:04 PM (I1x6h)

145 ... and that is why Bloomberg is unqualified to be President


Posted by: Charlton Heston at December 17, 2012 03:57 PM (e8kgV)



He isn't qualified to be dog catcher but then look at the idiot in office now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 04:05 PM (1Jaio)

146 I approve of stripper clips. They make things better.

Posted by: EC at December 17, 2012 04:06 PM (GQ8sn)

147 Remember when we thought that the Dems had given up on gun control ? Good times.

Posted by: Lt. Resentment at December 17, 2012 04:06 PM (/Bbvl)

148 131 “There are dumb statements and then there are stupid statements…..I don’t know what the gun would have done.”


... and that is why Bloomberg is unqualified to be President
Posted by: Charlton Heston at December 17, 2012 03:57 PM (e8kgV)


Doomberg is right about that. Anyway, in your own words, G-d damn him all to Hell.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2012 04:06 PM (XkWWK)

149 145 He isn't qualified to be dog catcher but then look at the idiot in office now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 17, 2012 04:05 PM (1Jaio)

He's a dog-eater, remember?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 17, 2012 04:07 PM (XkWWK)

150 147 Remember when we thought that the Dems had given up on gun control ? Good times.
Posted by: Lt. Resentment at December 17, 2012 04:06 PM (/Bbvl)

They are running on emotionalism. An emotion that will fade in about a week.

People will forget about the shooting, and be back to being generally pro-gun.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at December 17, 2012 04:07 PM (FsUAO)

151 Hah. Rushbabe posted a you tube video by MissouriPrepperlast weekend that showed not only how to make such tubes, but how to camoflage it from metal detection. I thought it was pretty interesting.


Trench out the letters F U. Line with aluminum foil. Replace dirt.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 17, 2012 04:07 PM (GFM2b)

152 It's occurred to me lately that Bloomberg might be even more fucking stupid than SCOAMF, with even less self awareness.

That thought stuns me.

It's kind of like finding another planet or death star.


Posted by: ontherocks at December 17, 2012 04:09 PM (aZ6ew)

153 Go ahead and ban 30-round clips.Highest capacity clipI ever saw was just eight rounds anyway.

Now, high-capacity magazines - leave them alone.


ISWYDT. Slick.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 17, 2012 04:09 PM (GFM2b)

154 I hope you're correct hobo. After the events if last month I'm not confident about anything, however. I keep waiting for a backlash but it seems that common sense has run and hid.

Posted by: Lt. Resentment at December 17, 2012 04:11 PM (/Bbvl)

155 Ban high cap mags and we'll have these on the market...

http://tinyurl.com/3mamgzu

Posted by: RWC at December 17, 2012 04:11 PM (fWAjv)

156 I like stripper clips.

And strippers.

Posted by: EC at December 17, 2012 04:14 PM (GQ8sn)

157 Saturday night, I was at my church's annual Christmas Party (not "Holiday Party," by the way), where we had one of those ten-dollar gift exchanges where everyone draws a number, picks a present, there's an option to steal - you know the game. What exchange gift did I leave with?

A box of 12-gauge shotgun shells.

Clearly, I'm attending the right church.

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 17, 2012 04:15 PM (n4EDK)

158 I am sorry. Why is nobody on the right tying this to abortion? 30ish kids is sad and it is a lot of kids.

But it is just a slow week for your average Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: gulfkraken at December 17, 2012 04:15 PM (WBfjO)

159 Go ahead and ban 30-round clips.Highest capacity clipI ever saw was just eight rounds anyway.



Now, high-capacity magazines - leave them alone.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at December 17, 2012 04:00 PM (w41GQ)







30 round clips actually DO exist......for the WW2-era Japanese Type 92 machine guns, the preferred weapon of urban gangs in the US.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 17, 2012 04:17 PM (TIIx5)

160 @ 134

Well, Soona, that will make 2 of us on the 11:00 news.

This IS my hill to die on.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 17, 2012 04:18 PM (SAMxH)

161 I am sorry. Why is nobody on the right tying this to abortion? 30ish kids is sad and it is a lot of kids.

What about Fast and Furious? That program deliberately put guns into the hands of criminals, allowed 2 federal agents to be killed by them, and no one still has all the answers yet. Any stupid libtard screaming for govt to control the guns completely forgets that the same govt did this.

Posted by: EC at December 17, 2012 04:18 PM (GQ8sn)

162 Burying firearms and sealed ammo is actually a pretty good idea.....for your backup firearms. Always nice to have a Plan B.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 17, 2012 04:21 PM (TIIx5)

163 Nice video. Now I have a thing for leggy redheads with guns. That's just what I needed.

Posted by: CJ at December 17, 2012 04:22 PM (9KqcB)

164 “They need to [be] wiped off the face of the earth” -- John Cobarruvias, a blogger, Democratic precinct chairman in the Houston area and a member of the Texas Democratic Executive Committee.

That doesn't sound too inclusive and diversity conscious.

Posted by: Jared Loughner at December 17, 2012 04:27 PM (e8kgV)

165 2 FIVE GALLON GAS CANS. 4 PROPANE TANKS. 150 POUNDS OF HARDWARE NUTS AND BOLTS. 1 LIGHTER. 1 ELECTRIC GRILL IGNITER. Loaded into the trunk of the car this monster drove, these items could have killed EVERY PERSON ON THE PREMISES. So, are we ready to engage in meaningful gasoline sale reform? Propane legislation? Lighter bans? No? Why not? Where do you need to go that you can't plan ahead and wait ...a few days to get gas? How can you be opposed to a 24 hour cooling off period before you can get gas for your lawn mower? Do you have a building plan that demonstrates a NEED for nuts and bolts? Why do you "need" propane? A lighter?
Politicians understand the psychology behind loss: they play on anger, and most of all, BARGAINING. We all want to BARGAIN... to make sure the loss we have seen others experience won't happen to us. Most importantly, we want a deal that COSTS US NOTHING... Others should be forced to sacrifice so we'll feel better about ourselves. When the people expected to sacrifice present debate, THEY MUST BE VILIFIED... That way we get to lash out at someone to show ourselves we aren't the powerless creatures we fear we are.
Unfortunately, THERE ARE NO BARGAINS THAT GUARANTEE PEACEFUL EXISTENCE OR FREEDOM FROM RANDOM ACTS OF INSANITY. To want to protect our children is noble... to refuse to accept reality is DANGEROUS. This is the deodand fallacy: "This is the accursed item! It contains the seed and soul of evil itself! If we burn it, we will cleanse our society!!!" Pure show business.THIS IS WHY THEY ALWAYS DEMAND IMMEDIATE ACTION: if you are given time to think, you'll reach "acceptance'... and after that you'll begin to apply LOGIC to the problem. They don't want that. They can't prevail if that happens.

Posted by: sixgunsam at December 17, 2012 04:28 PM (0r7Rv)

166 Of course they question the comma, these are the same idiots who believe "the separation of church and state" appears in the Constitution.

Posted by: Cindy Munford at December 17, 2012 04:46 PM (6MiMG)

167 And now? We all talk about Gun Control, instead of Fast and Furious, or Benghazi, or Hillarys convenient concussion, or the Fiscal Cliff.... or the HUGE amount of Regulations in the works...

I'm not a Christian but with the Super Storm that helped Obama get elected... and now this??? I'm begining to think Barry HAD to have sold his soul to Satan...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 17, 2012 04:53 PM (lZBBB)

168 Not exactly, Teller.

The founders didn't give us a right to own guns. God did that. The founders RECOGNIZED our right to own guns and restricted the government from interfering.

Posted by: JackT at December 17, 2012 06:16 PM (zKrpP)

169 PT are awesome.

Posted by: vivi at December 17, 2012 07:07 PM (hY2XN)

170 fyi - My old Sig Sauer 226, the same pistol (the other was a Glock) the psycho had up in Newtown, had a standard 10 round magazine
You could get a high capacity 20 round magazine with an extended footplate

Posted by: TexasJew at December 17, 2012 07:27 PM (lD8ju)

171 I have to agree with Bill O'Reilly Americans don't need AK-15s. He came back on after the break and said I made a mistake. I know their is a difference between an AK 47 and an AR 15I'm not a gun expert but I'm not an idiot?????????????

Posted by: Buffalobob at December 17, 2012 08:20 PM (x+7qA)

172 Worst school mass killing ever was in Bath, Michigan. A nut-job blew up half the school with dynamite and pyrotol. Pyrotol isn't made anymore and dynamite is almost impossible to get....and yet there are still mass murders. Gun control won't do diddly. If someone wants to kill, they will find a way.

Posted by: bocephus at December 17, 2012 08:22 PM (3Crtn)

173 (CBS) – An Austin-area gun store owner is joining the gun rights debate with a controversial offer for teachers in light of the tragic shooting in Connecticut.

Crocket Keller of Kellers Riverside Gun Store says if educators want to get a concealed handgun license, he’ll give them a discount.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 17, 2012 08:40 PM (e8kgV)

174 One suggestion for burying PVC tubes with guns inside. I think going under a garage slab might work. The metal detectors would pick up the reinforcement of the the concrete. Digging the hole would takemore work, though.

Posted by: JB1000 at December 17, 2012 10:12 PM (Ws44U)






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