Overnight Open Thread (15 Dec 2012)

Forget the Mayans, Isaac Newton Had His Own End Of The World Prediction. In 2060. So you still have time to do whatever you need to. That is unless the Mayans were correct. Then you're screwed. Here's Why You're Going To Die In The Apocalypse.

1. The only food that can survive an apocalypse has been discontinued.

Accidental Inventions

10 Common Items That Were Invented By Accident. Is the Slinky really considered a common item?

Vulcanized Rubber: Charles Goodyear had spent ages trying to find a way to make rubber resistant to heat and cold. After a number of failed attempts, he finally stumbled across a mixture that worked. Before turning out the lights one evening, he accidentally spilled some rubber, sulfur, and lead onto a stove resulting in a mixture that charred and hardened but could still be used.

Hockey

You know, if the NHL lockout continues, I just might have to give The Bikini Hockey League a shot.

Car Mileage

Is 200,000 Miles On Your Car The New Normal? I'd say yes. I didn't hit 200,000 on my last car but it was 14 years old and starting to cost some money to keep running so I'm driving a new 2013 Nissan Altima SL now. Like it so far. 36.5 MPG is mighty nice too. So how long are you guys gonna drive your current cars? What type of repair would make you buy a new one?

A little Christmas Video

Models should probably stick to modeling and leave the singin' to the pros. Entertaining nonetheless.

Happy Birthday History

Hmmm. I had no idea that It's Illegal To Sing 'Happy Birthday' In Public. I always wondered why chain restaurants never sang 'Happy Birthday' but instead sang something else.

There are about a million other confusing transactions in the story, but those are the basic facts, and why “Happy Birthday” is copyrighted; in fact, according to Snopes, the song brings in roughly $2 million in royalties annually for Warner.

Booze Study

Men Think They're More Attractive The More They Drink. Well no shit Sherlock. And the women look hotter too and you do stupid shit when you're drunk. I can't believe people spend money on studies like this.

Canoes

Before there were car backseats, there was the canoe. The Delightfully Sinful History Of Canoes.

Kitteh Video

Ready? Fight!

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Comments

1 Hi!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2012 09:51 PM (DoZD+)

2 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2012 09:52 PM (JMmQ9)

3 Marty McFly: "This is heavy, Doc."

Doc Brown: "Weight has nothing to do with it?!"

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 09:53 PM (I88Jc)

4 Wasn't the potato chip invented/discovered by accident?

That should make the Top 5, never mind the Top 10.

Posted by: logprof at December 15, 2012 09:53 PM (LMgaP)

5 yo

Posted by: navycopjoe at December 15, 2012 09:54 PM (fKtDL)

6
OK, dragging in from last thread:



Report: House Speaker Boehner proposes higher taxes for millionaires, Obama declines but talks continue - @AP __ ___ ___ ___ ___ __ __ __




wut?

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 15, 2012 09:54 PM (1Y+hH)

7 Hello

Posted by: Al at December 15, 2012 09:56 PM (V70Uh)

8 I have 147,000 miles on my 6 1/2 year old SUV. I just made some major repairs (replaced the AC, flywheel, and a new pan gasket). I hope to get 200,000 out of it. If I do replace it before then, it won't be with something brand new.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2012 09:57 PM (mjR67)

9 I'm waiting for B+rry Choomwagon's regime to buy me a new car. Why should I buy one? I wasn't born yesterday.

Posted by: Greecefornia Obamaphone Owner at December 15, 2012 09:57 PM (I+Z9T)

10 You know, if the NHL lockout continues, I just might have to give The Bikini Hockey League a shot.

Sharp elbows can be mighty dangerous in hockey, I hope the boobehs make good padding when checked on the boards


Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 09:59 PM (wwsoB)

11 The pretty but somewhat crappy 2004 Jeep Liberty has 105,000 miles. Last week the water pump had to be replaced, and the mechanic also said I had $950 in rack and pinion steering repairs in my near future. That's still not enough for me to sell--I've owned the car for 8 years and it's been paid off for four. Ideally, I'd like to drive it until the tyrant is out of office.

Posted by: Palandine at December 15, 2012 09:59 PM (g7D8V)

12
Wasn't the potato chip invented/discovered by accident?




I think it was a spite thing. A customer complained that the potatoes weren't cut thin enough so the chef sliced them super thin out of spite. Or something.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2012 09:59 PM (DoZD+)

13 Sharp elbows can be mighty dangerous in hockey, I hope the boobehs make good padding when checked on the boards




Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 09:59 PM (wwsoB)

I wonder if the fighting is any good?

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM (dKV5k)

14 Christmas kitteh will kill you in your sleep on Christmas.

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM (z9HTb)

15 I wonder if the fighting is any good?


Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM

Bikini hockey with catfights?

DAMN !!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:02 PM (wwsoB)

16 @6, also moved up from previous thread:

Report: House Speaker Boehner proposes higher taxes for millionaires,

Obama declines but talks continue - @AP __ ___ ___ ___ ___ __ __ __

Now wait a minute....wut?


Remember
when we were a representative republic and these sorts of issues used
to be discussed on the record, in public, by Congress, instead of by
cronies behind locked doors?

Good times, good times...

Posted by: Palandine at December 15, 2012 10:02 PM (g7D8V)

17 I wonder if the fighting is any good?


Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM

It is if they make out when it's over

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:03 PM (wwsoB)

18 I wonder if the fighting is any good?

Fighting earns both contestants five minutes in the jello pool.

Posted by: Alex at December 15, 2012 10:03 PM (o1kXv)

19 I must say that putting that cat into that hat was a novel way to off one's self.


'sup, windowlickers?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Considering waiting until after March Madness. at December 15, 2012 10:03 PM (Gk3SS)

20 "What type of repair would make you buy a new [car]?"

Having to detail the interior after the parents rekindled their love in it.

*rocks back and forth in the fetal positon*

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:03 PM (I88Jc)

21 Hello! I have no idea what's been going on around these parts, since I've been slaving away in the kitchen since before dawn. I hate the work involved, being the designated Christmas cookie baker, but I do enjoy the effusive praise. Then hubby brings home pheasants, and has a definite idea of what to do with them, involving lots of chopping and mincing. So happy to finally be able to sit down and enjoy the moronic humor!

Posted by: Kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:04 PM (S+/pH)

22 I just chucked some raw BJS data on NICS rejections/prosecutions I researched into a blog post so I wouldn't lose it.

http://purpleavenger.blogspot.com/2012/12/bjs-data.html

There's some interesting stuff there about prosecutions for prohibited persons trying to buy a gun. Obama ain't looking so good compared to Bush. In fact, the whole thing looks shamefully lax even under Bush.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:05 PM (G0eua)

23 I'm getting more attractive as we speak!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 15, 2012 10:05 PM (0WLla)

24 http://tinyurl.com/c6duess

from Politico via Drudge

Fiscal cliff talks: Speaker John Boehner pitches millionaire tax hike


Just the tip...



Posted by: T.Hunter at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (EZl54)

25 1996 Honda Civic with 295,000 miles on it. Still runs great but is starting to look like shit. I drove my first born home from the hospital in it and now he is set to take it over when he gets his license in 3 months. Best part of it is that it has been paid off for 14 years. My other car is a 2003 Chysler Town and Country with 165,000 miles on it. Have to buy a car in February to replace my Honda. Wife wants new. I don't. Cars are a pain in the ass. Nothing gives me peace of mind more that a car owned free and clear.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (jucos)

26 Then hubby brings home pheasants


Those things are revolting

Posted by: King Humperdink at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (z9HTb)

27
Isaac Newton was pervy.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (jWwDJ)

28 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 133K miles on it. MrsCaniac has a 94 Mitsubishi Eclipse with 134K miles on it. We just painted her car this summer and put new tires on mine, so unless I blow a tranny, it's gonna be a while.


Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (Zd/NW)

29 Some of the cars that are not overteched and are well built will probably do 300,000 miles without major repairs, and if you don't live in the Northeast where the winters will eat the body away

Toyota Corollas, Honda Civics, Nissan Sentras, Subaru Imprezas, Hyundai Accents

Volvos are just getting broken in at 200K miles. I think the Scandis built them to withstand the apocalypse

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:08 PM (wwsoB)

30 What type of repair would make you buy a new one?

One where parts were unavailable or so expensive a new car would be cheaper.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:09 PM (G0eua)

31 Fucking NHL. The Blue Jackets are dead to me. I've been supporting those losers even before they had a fucking name.

I'm going back to the Red Wings.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 15, 2012 10:09 PM (0WOz6)

32 Hoody-hoo!

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:09 PM (w+hCD)

33 2002 Jeep Liberty, just approaching 60,000 miles. Unless some asshole smacks it up on me, I will drive it for quite a long time to come. I always buy used and pay cash. Drive about 3500 miles per year. So, I probably don't count in the survey.

Posted by: Peaches at December 15, 2012 10:10 PM (kpCLl)

34 Fucking NHL. The Blue Jackets are dead to me. I've been supporting those losers even before they had a fucking name.

I'm going back to the Red Wings.
Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 15, 2012 10:09 PM (0WOz6)
-------------------------------------------------------
Wait, there's an NHL team that goes by the name "Blue Jackets"? Really?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 15, 2012 10:10 PM (jucos)

35
I wonder if the fighting is any good?

*Tweet!* Two minutes in the box for *cues DJ voice* Excessive Sexiness!

Errr...make that one minute.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 15, 2012 10:11 PM (0WLla)

36 I have a 9 year old pickup with about 50,000 miles on it.

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:11 PM (NIZHJ)

37
1994 Camry with 100k. Will buy again when it stops moving.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 10:11 PM (jWwDJ)

38 The only food that can survive an apocalypse has been discontinued.

That's a damn lie.

Posted by: Fancy Lads Snack Cakes at December 15, 2012 10:11 PM (SiF4n)

39 So how long are you guys gonna drive your current cars? What type of repair would make you buy a new one?

****

Until it falls apart, which is okay, because it's a Jeep. It's okay to own an old Jeep.

I would, however, replace it, should any single repair exceed about $1.5k or any combination of repairs exceed $2k.

I keep hoping that Jeep will make a turnaround and it will once again be okay to purchase one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:12 PM (piMMO)

40 We can rebuild it, we have the technology.

Posted by: The Savage Hordes of Bentonville at December 15, 2012 10:12 PM (NIZHJ)

41 Remember
when we were a representative republic and these sorts of issues used
to be discussed on the record, in public, by Congress, instead of by
cronies behind locked doors?

Good times, good times...


...between members of the legislative branch? Haha the constitution is over 100 years old!

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:12 PM (w+hCD)

42 I wonder if the fighting is any good?


Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM (dKV5k)

In real hockey fights if you pull the other fighter's sweater over his head, it gives you an advantage. If they pull the bra over the head of the other ones, the sound of zippers being pulled down would be deafening.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:12 PM (Zd/NW)

43 Wait, there's an NHL team that goes by the name "Blue Jackets"? Really?


Wait, the NHL is still a thing?

Posted by: fluffy, Twinky hoarder at December 15, 2012 10:13 PM (z9HTb)

44
I'm not sure how good they are at hockey, but they sure do have a nice grip on those shafts!

*rimshot!* Try the veal!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 15, 2012 10:13 PM (0WLla)

45 Good evening / night, morons. Obama ate a dog.
http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1355620954633.jpg

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 10:14 PM (QTHTd)

46 CDR, how you driving a new car in this LiB mentality?

Posted by: sophistahick at December 15, 2012 10:14 PM (91TGs)

47 I drove my 89 Firebird for 21 years and 195K miles

Had to replace the engine and the suspension. I don't know of any other 3rd gen Firebird or Camaro that made it to 150K, they weren't exactly well built


Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:14 PM (wwsoB)

48 Volvos are just getting broken in at 200K miles. I think the Scandis built them to withstand the apocalypse
Posted by: kbdabear


Ford bought Volvo in 1999, who just sold it to the Chinese in 2010. The quality declined significantly after the '99 acquisition. Mysteriously.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2012 10:14 PM (TtXjG)

49 The Mullet demands respect in the UFC!

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:14 PM (I88Jc)

50 37


1994 Camry with 100k. Will buy again when it stops moving.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 15, 2012 10:11 PM

94 Camry with only 100k? You'll have that one quite a while with just minor parts to replace for a very long time

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:16 PM (wwsoB)

51 Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.

Well, there does your Horde membership.

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 10:16 PM (QTHTd)

52 hey all.

windowlickers? that's a new one.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 15, 2012 10:16 PM (xzxDr)

53 @34 Not anymore. This town has bent over backwards to accomodate an NHL franchise and build a world-class arena and all they've done is suck.

They had ten years. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (0WOz6)

54 Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.


Because you cheated or because you're gay?

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (w+hCD)

55 I don't know of any other 3rd gen Firebird or Camaro that made it to 150K, they weren't exactly well built.

The hell you say!

Posted by: Reinstated UAW Employees at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (mjR67)

56 Toyota.

Posted by: The Savage Hordes of Bentonville at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (NIZHJ)

57 46
CDR, how you driving a new car in this LiB mentality?


Posted by: sophistahick at December 15, 2012 10:14 PM (91TGs)

One does have to be mobile. I was going to have to put too much money in my old car to keep it running. I can go 600 miles on a tank on my new one. Perfect for getting out of dodge and going long before having to stop for gas.

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (dKV5k)

58 I driven everyvehicle I've owned (except 2) until they were on their last leg. Most had well over 200k. I could work on the older ones. The new ones, not a chance in hell could I repair one. What used to be a simple project, such as a water pump replacement, will probably cost $900 at a repair shop.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (JgkPs)

59 One where parts were unavailable or so expensive a new car would be cheaper.


Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:09 PM (G0eua)

And another reason to hate Obama, "Cash for Clunkers". This past year I had to replace a part on my seat that had broken, a repair that was needed to pass state inspection. Mopar no longer makes the part, and thanks to cash for clunkers, no junk yards had the part either. A part my repair guy said used to cost 75 bucks cost me $300 on eBay. So many cars that would have gotten scavenged for parts were just shredded up so that Obama could pay off the UAW.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:18 PM (Zd/NW)

60 The max I have kept a car is 7 years.

After that much time your interior starts to look like crap and you are going to have to make serious repairs and maintenance upkeep that it is best to trade it in for a new or used car.

I was able to trade in my 2004 Hyundai santa fe for $7500 towards a Honda.

There is no way I could have gotten that much for the Hyundai selling it myself. Plus you can't really work on your own cars like you could in times past.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 15, 2012 10:18 PM (0fxcV)

61 Lol, at the grumpy cat (which I guess is the point). Gushka'a been linking to a lot of Lolcats with him lately.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 15, 2012 10:18 PM (wbeNt)

62 I would, however, replace it, should any single repair exceed about $1.5k or any combination of repairs exceed $2k.



That's my rule as well. At that point, you're starting the downhill slope towards even more expensive repairs.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Considering waiting until after March Madness. at December 15, 2012 10:18 PM (Gk3SS)

63 My car is a 2006 Lezmobile with 103K. It needs about $650 in work, totally doable.

I want to get it to 160K anyway.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:18 PM (w+hCD)

64 I've got a 99 Century that hasn't hit 100,000 miles yet. So I'm hoping to drive that for a bit longer though probably as soon as I can I'll get a car that will get over 30 mpg. And its likely going to be a Honda or a Hyundai manufactured vehicle. Afterall I want to get a car that is mostly made in America that is interested in making cars instead of providing pensions.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:19 PM (GULKT)

65 1993 Nissan 300 ZX with 193,000 on the clock. Many non-cheap repairs over the years, but it is still fun to drive. Looks like hell, but it starts every time and corners like it is on rails. I will try for 200 k miles, but don't get enough chances to drive it anymore.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 15, 2012 10:19 PM (Cnqmv)

66 63 Ford F-150 Janet Reno Edition?

Posted by: The Savage Hordes of Bentonville at December 15, 2012 10:20 PM (NIZHJ)

67 The owner of hubby's company "confided" in us, last night at the Christmas dinner (which has been pared down to upper management, only) that our health insurance will end soon. If he provides it for us, then he has to provide it for everyone (hundreds). Thanks JEF! And Merry Fuckin' Christmas.

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:20 PM (S+/pH)

68 Synthetic oil all the way. My 2002 Suburban is still kicking ass at 255,000 miles. No sign of slowing down.

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 10:20 PM (doBIb)

69 wow cars. lots and lots of cars.

I'm watching 'fathead' right now. I am infuriated by it, but in a pleasant way. It's numbing b/c I already know about it.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 15, 2012 10:20 PM (xzxDr)

70 Hrothgar, my parents still have their 92 300 ZX Twin Turbo. I think it has 250,000 miles on it now but is in very good shape.

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:21 PM (dKV5k)

71 Having to detail the interior after the parents rekindled their love in it. *rocks back and forth in the fetal positon*
Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:03 PM (I88Jc)

If this van's a rockin', don't come knockin'.

Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 15, 2012 10:21 PM (nZvGM)

72 Thinking about getting another mare: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cao44xd

Posted by: Thorvald at December 15, 2012 10:21 PM (fS2Sn)

73 When I moved from NJ to CA in 1995, I was surprised how many VW Beetles were still on the road. Since they weren't rotted out by road salt from the Northeastern winters, I shouldn't have been surprised

They're so simply built and easy to fix, I imagine you could get a million miles out of one

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:21 PM (wwsoB)

74 So synthetic is the way to go?

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:21 PM (dKV5k)

75 53
@34 Not anymore. This town has bent over backwards to accomodate an NHL
franchise and build a world-class arena and all they've done is suck.



They had ten years. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (0WOz6)

To be fair, at least you aren't Toronto.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:22 PM (Zd/NW)

76 66 63 Ford F-150 Janet Reno Edition?
Posted by: The Savage Hordes of Bentonville at December 15, 2012 10:20 PM (NIZHJ)



I wish! Subaru Outback.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:23 PM (w+hCD)

77 This... is the new birthday song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXkT54U6ZmI

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 10:23 PM (QTHTd)

78 One of the very few drawbacks of living in the sticks, is the mileage racked up. I have to drive 25 miles almost every day just for the basics, and to go to Costco, or out to eat, is a 60 mile round trip. It adds up quick!

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:23 PM (S+/pH)

79 Cash for Clunkers was amateur hour. What's REALLY gonna wipe out the used cars and force everyone into new cars is the push for 15% ethanol gasoline. Vicious engine destroyer. Why force everyone to get a new car? Sales tax revenues, UAW, and most especially the new laws requiring GPS black boxes in every new car.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 10:23 PM (XDC0v)

80 The new ones, not a chance in hell could I repair
one. What used to be a simple project, such as a water pump replacement,
will probably cost $900 at a repair shop.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:17 PM (JgkPs)



I can't remember where I saw it, but I do believe the new Mercedes are built in such a way that it is impossible to change your own oil.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Considering waiting until after March Madness. at December 15, 2012 10:24 PM (Gk3SS)

81 So synthetic is the way to go?
Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:21 PM


It's a TRAP!!!!

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at December 15, 2012 10:24 PM (JMmQ9)

82 spam. Just testing, I have had 4 comments rejected saying something to the effect that I am a spammer.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:25 PM (9Cfw6)

83 That's my rule as well. At that point, you're starting the downhill slope towards even more expensive repairs.


****

Yep. And, begins the price you pay in worry: Should I drive at night? Should I take it on a trip?

The power-train on my Jeep, fortunately, is covered until 100k miles and, after four years, I've only accrued 45k, so I'm good for a little while.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:25 PM (piMMO)

84 63 My car is a 2006 Lezmobile with 103K. It needs about $650 in work, totally doable.

I want to get it to 160K anyway.
Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:18 PM

Subaru Forrester or Outback?

http://tinyurl.com/ckluult

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:25 PM (wwsoB)

85 I live under a mile from everything I need. Especially with Amazon taking care of the less usual things.

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:26 PM (NIZHJ)

86 So Boehner caved just like Obama said he would.

Posted by: Sho Nuff at December 15, 2012 10:26 PM (jo0fs)

87 AAA just called for a halt of 15% ethanol sales to protect unsuspecting motorists from damaging their engines.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2012 10:26 PM (mjR67)

88 LOL kb, U know it

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 15, 2012 10:27 PM (w+hCD)

89 We are a Honda family. My wife has a 2004 Pilot, 140,000 miles, I have an Acura MDX, 2008 with 100,000 miles. We were looking at a 2012 Civic Hybrid this morning to replace the Pilot and go from 20 mpg to 44.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 15, 2012 10:27 PM (vYJuY)

90 I have had 4 comments rejected saying something to the effect that I am a spammer.


Was that you??

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:27 PM (z9HTb)

91 And AAA has no authority to stop anything.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 10:27 PM (XDC0v)

92 CDR M. One of my real regrets is that I didn't get the turbo version of the Z. At the time, I thought it was one more potential expensive to repair component. Now, I think what the hell, you probably only get one of these in a lifetime.

I have become a believer in synthetic oil. I now run MobilOne in every thing I own and the only engine problem I ever had was back when I was still running conventional oil. The cost difference is noticeable, but well within the reasonable range especially as I really think it increases engine life.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 15, 2012 10:28 PM (Cnqmv)

93 2002 toyota tacoma 4x4. 57K miles. i fully expect it to outlast my lifetime. better investment than my home.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 15, 2012 10:28 PM (JvP2I)

94 I can't remember where I saw it, but I do believe the new Mercedes are built in such a way that it is impossible to change your own oil.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Considering waiting until after March Madness.


Probably true. I guess if you can afford a Mercedes, you can afford to pay for an oil change.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:28 PM (JgkPs)

95 Yeah, Amazon is a godsend. I only wish they weren't so... you know. Same with Costco. I don't understand why they endorse the Democrat agenda. People with no money are not going to be able to use their services.

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:28 PM (S+/pH)

96 I have possessed the following cars

1 - 2011 Honda fit
2 - 2004 Hyundai Santa fe
3 - 1998 Mitsubishi galant
4 - 1991 Mazda rx7 turbo II
5 - 1986 Buick regal with t tops.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 15, 2012 10:29 PM (0fxcV)

97 One million miles on my old Dodge...

Posted by: Al Bundy at December 15, 2012 10:29 PM (AC0lD)

98 Wasn't the potato chip invented/discovered by accident?
----
It was invented for spite, to screw over a customer, and the customer loved them.

Posted by: Whatev at December 15, 2012 10:29 PM (2t6Gz)

99 93 I have the 2003 Toyota Tacoma without the 4x4 part. Getting hard to find tires.

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:29 PM (NIZHJ)

100 79
Cash for Clunkers was amateur hour. What's REALLY gonna wipe out the
used cars and force everyone into new cars is the push for 15% ethanol
gasoline. Vicious engine destroyer. Why force everyone to get a new car?
Sales tax revenues, UAW, and most especially the new laws requiring GPS
black boxes in every new car.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 10:23 PM

I see E-85 as a huge bonanza for tort lawyers.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:29 PM (wwsoB)

101 Molly K, were you trying to paste in a link that still looked 'live'?

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:30 PM (z9HTb)

102 spam. Just testing, I have had 4 comments rejected saying something to the effect that I am a spammer.
Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:25 PM (9Cfw6)

Were you trying to sell us lace wigs? Or machines?

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 15, 2012 10:30 PM (nZvGM)

103 So Boehner caved just like Obama said he would.

Posted by: Sho Nuff at December 15, 2012 10:26 PM (jo0fs)



Hahaha--you effed up. You trusted us!

Posted by: Karl Rover at December 15, 2012 10:30 PM (Cnqmv)

104 84 kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:25 PM

Subaru Forrester or Outback?


... blue or red flannel?

Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2012 10:31 PM (5B5zZ)

105 1 - 2011 Honda fit
2 - 2004 Hyundai Santa fe
3 - 1998 Mitsubishi galant
4 - 1991 Mazda rx7 turbo II
5 - 1986 Buick regal with t tops.

****

I purchased a 2003 Galant with 12k miles in 2005. I sold/practically gave it away to my daughter when I bought my Jeep in Nov 2008. She's still driving it.

Great car.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:31 PM (piMMO)

106 The old Chrysler 225 Slant Six would last forever

The Dodges and Plymouths that came with them? If you got 50K out of them I think Chrysler sent the marketing guys to your house

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (wwsoB)

107 kbdabear, my wife want to get a Volvo wagon. Should I be worried?

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (z9HTb)

108 Yes, synthetic oil. I go 6000 miles between changes.

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (doBIb)

109 spam. Just testing, I have had 4 comments rejected saying something to the effect that I am a spammer.


****

did you try to use the word bl*zer?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (piMMO)

110 Hyundai Santa Fe - 156,000 miles, 7 years

We're buying new next year to avoid the 'black box' Obama is gifting us with.

Re: boxing kitteh - he keeps looking at the camera and saying, "Get this kid the heck out of my face. Seriously. Do something."

Posted by: Pentangle at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (fEkwe)

111 Older codgers like myself don't like to drive around in something that might leave them stranded. Didn't use to bother me. I was usually a mile from drivetrain self destruction.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (JgkPs)

112 "And AAA has no authority to stop anything."

Could it be the next AARP of consumer orgs--mandatory roadside assistance coverage?

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (I88Jc)

113 I wonder if I said I had a Lazerb......

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (NIZHJ)

114 99- i've got goodrich allterrains on mine. they seem to last exceptionally well. kinda tough looking too.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 15, 2012 10:33 PM (JvP2I)

115 I wonder how many miles those old 50's cars in Cuba have? They're still using them as daily drivers

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:33 PM (wwsoB)

116
82 spam. Just testing, I have had 4 comments rejected saying something to the effect that I am a spammer.
Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:25 PM (9Cfw6


Are you trying to talk about a car? Is it a particular Chevy SUV that starts with the letters Bla, and end in zer?

Certain words are in the spam filter and using them in a comment will get the comment rejected.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:33 PM (GULKT)

117 If SCoamF ever comes up with an invention that succeeds, it will be much like the potato chip. Invented to screw someone, but accidentally working.

Posted by: Whatev at December 15, 2012 10:34 PM (2t6Gz)

118
101Molly K, were you trying to paste in a link that still looked 'live'?........
...............
I didn't try to paste a thing!! Or try to sell anything for that matter. Let's just say whoever runs the spam detector must be a Ravens fan...

Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:34 PM (9Cfw6)

119 Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (doBIb)

Another advantage of synthetic is the extended mileage between oil changes. I still try for 5000, but if things are too frantic, 6000 to 7000 in a pinch and I don't feel too bad.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 15, 2012 10:34 PM (Cnqmv)

120 I wonder if the government subsidized those "Snapshot" devices that Progressive uses to see how many consumers would give up all their freedom to save a few bucks a month

Flo is a statist bitch

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:35 PM (wwsoB)

121 "The Dodges and Plymouths that came with them?"

Torqueflite's were bullet proof although I'd concede that transverse torsion bar front suspensions were a serious mistake in the late seventies.

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:35 PM (I88Jc)

122 Believe it or not my best vehicle was a '92 Saturn. The worst was a Mitsubishi Eclipse.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:36 PM (JgkPs)

123
I'm gonna try a few words I used to see if they get past the spam moniter

Baby mamma

Domestic violence

I'm sure this will end well

Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:36 PM (9Cfw6)

124 Can an ME tell this quickly, and just from autopsies, that all the victims died from semi-auto rifle fire, as he said few hours ago? OR IS this just (partially) political posturing?

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (opS9C)

125 BackwardsTruck has 223K miles on her. She's a '91 Chebby S10 I bought new in the summer of 1990 with 24 miles on the odo. Ran just fine until a couple of months ago when she started blowing ECM fuses on a fairly regular basis. Now I gotta find one, right after I find the money.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (yiIja)

126 1997 Olds Achieva ( last year they made them, except for some 1998s made only for duh govt ) with 156k


drivin' it until it dies, man. Until it's as dead as me

Posted by: Zombie Slim Whitman at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (Dll6b)

127
Terrell Suggs

Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (9Cfw6)

128 Yeah, there's a ban on Space Battleship Yamato knock-offs on this site. We're Gamelons only here, sunshine.

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 10:38 PM (QTHTd)

129 Evenin Horde!


Freedom!


Two dance recitals for the eldest resulted in no nap for the 2 1/2 year old. Epic meltdown.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 15, 2012 10:38 PM (GEICT)

130 Torqueflite's were bullet proof although I'd
concede that transverse torsion bar front suspensions were a serious
mistake in the late seventies.

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:35 PM

Mopars never had good suspensions in them. I had a Road Runner and a Demon that would go out of alignment if you so much as ran over a pebble. I finally decided that if it was close enough to steer, it was cheaper to buy tires than to keep taking it to the front end shop

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:38 PM (wwsoB)

131 Well it's a mystery, thats all I can say.

Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:39 PM (9Cfw6)

132 No Comet Empire?

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 10:39 PM (doBIb)

133 So synthetic is the way to go?

On anything with a turbocharger, for sure. The synth won't polymerize more as its fed to the turbo shaft bearings.

If its a car that sits for extended periods, maybe no. The synth PAG oils are more prone to absorbing moisture than dead dinosaur oils. Anything run with some regularity on synth will boil out any minimal condensation and/or absorbed stuff after a few minutes of running.

I've seen stuff rust even when its run with the pricy Klotz synths if it sits for a long time in a humid environment.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:39 PM (G0eua)

134 Double plus on the synthetic oil. worth the money..just remember to either get the extended life filter of change your filter and top off your oil at around 3500 miles. I go 5500 on my synthetic on my past two vehicles..both nissans and never ever had engine problems, leaks or consumption.

Posted by: helofixer at December 15, 2012 10:39 PM (1q5k5)

135 I'm gonna try a few words I used to see if they get past the spam moniter


I think I see your problem. You need a flush an occasional F-bomb, just to keep the fucking pipes clean.


Basic fucking maintenance :--)

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:39 PM (z9HTb)

136 Well it's a mystery, thats all I can say.


*****

Did you type the word bl*zer?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:40 PM (piMMO)

137 Volvos are just getting broken in at 200K miles. I think the Scandis built them to withstand the apocalypse

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:08 PM (wwsoB)


I've driven Volvos since my first car (not always but I've had many), my newest was a 98.

I can categorically say they are not reliable cars. Durable, sure, but that's something else. Some people get lemons, some people get lucky, but on average budget for some repairs.

Get ready for odd shit that shouldn't fail to fail, but it's always repairable so you're stuck with the car forever (or until you finally get rid of it).

The old, simple B20-engined cars from the 60s would go a million miles (and many small repairs), the new ones won't.

I think they primarily have talented engineers who don't know when to quit and have never worked on a car themselves.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 10:41 PM (bxiXv)

138
127 Terrell Suggs
Posted by: Molly k. at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (9Cfw6)


That's likely the problem. See there is a certain boot out there that used to get spam here to sell that looks a lot like his last name minus the first S. So sometimes the spam filter will identify that as spam.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:41 PM (GULKT)

139 "What type of repair would make you buy a new one?"

Well, we finally broke down and got new vehichles when both the oil and anti-freeze (?) in the Tempo had been leaking for some time and the driver's seat back had had to be propped up with a board for over a year. Mostly we were afraid we couldn't drive it back off the dealer's lot. But it was given to us and we'd driven itabout seven years. When the fourth baby was born we also got a 20 year-old van (for cash) but only drove it about 2 years because the King-pins could no longer be aligned.

Both current vehichles have been paid off two years and have needed some repairs, but by G-d, I'm not changing until I absolutely have to. After all, eight-seat minivans don't grow on trees.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 15, 2012 10:41 PM (wbeNt)

140 Ok, well. it's the car ONT tonight.

I'm out. see you tomorrow. love you, big hugs.

Posted by: elizabethe at December 15, 2012 10:41 PM (xzxDr)

141 Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:38 PM (wwsoB)

What year and which engine?

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:41 PM (JgkPs)

142 122
Believe it or not my best vehicle was a '92 Saturn. The worst was a Mitsubishi Eclipse.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:36 PM

I looked at buying an Eclipse a few years ago at an auction. No frigging leg room with a stick shift and I have a bad back, in L.A. traffic?

Not much arm room either. If I was driving one with a woman in the passenger seat, her boobs would have been sore just from getting bumped every time I shifted

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:42 PM (wwsoB)

143 Ugg Boots?

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:42 PM (NIZHJ)

144 Can someone put me some knowledge on why bl*zer is bannable? Sorry for my ignorance.

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:43 PM (S+/pH)

145 26 autopsies in less than a day, in a small town, in the biggest case of the year. Yeah, that is believable. I guess they figure since the shooter is dead...

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 10:43 PM (opS9C)

146 144 There was someone who posted under that Chevy name.

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:44 PM (NIZHJ)

147 Another advantage of synthetic is the extended mileage between oil
changes. I still try for 5000, but if things are too frantic, 6000 to
7000 in a pinch and I don't feel too bad.


The synth oil itself is good for 100k+. Its the crappy filters that get farkled. A high-flow micron range filter (very pricy $100+) would allow for going 100k between changes.

Mobil wanted to advertise Mobil 1 as a 100k oil, but when they found out what a 100k filter would cost (prototypes that worked were actually contracted for and designed and built) they gave up on the idea.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:44 PM (G0eua)

148 I have been over at Drudge, he has link to pictures of yesterday's victims, from USA today. I cant' look.

Boehner caved? That SOB!

Posted by: CarolT at December 15, 2012 10:44 PM (z4WKX)

149 Thanks, butters.

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:44 PM (S+/pH)

150 141
Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:38 PM (wwsoB)



What year and which engine?

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:41 PM

Road Runner was a 1969 with the 383 4 bbl with the 440 heads and a 4 speed

Demon was a 1972 with a 340 4bbl with the Torqueflite

I loved the 340 engine, everything else was barely scrap metal worthy even when it was new

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:45 PM (wwsoB)

151 My sister had a toyota camry that had 400,000 miles on it, my dad is pretty amazing with cars, when she bought a new car my dad gave it to a college kid in the community, it could probably break 500,000. Toyota's are fantastic, but just like any car you can't get the first one in the series.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 15, 2012 10:45 PM (NzBQO)

152
143 Ugg Boots?
Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:42 PM (NIZHJ)


Drop the boots and just stick an S on the end of the first word and you'll see.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:45 PM (GULKT)

153 124
Can an ME tell this quickly, and just from autopsies, that all the
victims died from semi-auto rifle fire, as he said few hours ago? OR IS
this just (partially) political posturing?


Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (opS9C)

Not at all too soon to make the gun shot ruling, but the semi auto rifle fire is a bit of political posturing.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:45 PM (Zd/NW)

154 I had a 73 Chevy or two that were tanks... Bought one for $300 (c1982 or so). Wonderful car.

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 10:45 PM (opS9C)

155 @PurpleAvenger: like it or not, you've been added to the "AltonJackson's Fellow Moronbloggers of the ONT" blogroll on my small (but tiny!) blog

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2012 10:46 PM (JMmQ9)

156 Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:43 PM

It was from a legendary banning back in the summer of 2009


Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:46 PM (wwsoB)

157 Not much arm room either. If I was driving one with a woman in the passenger seat, her boobs would have been sore just from getting bumped every time I shifted
Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:42 PM (wwsoB)


Go with the younger ladies. Their boobehs don't hang that low.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:46 PM (JgkPs)

158 I saw that Isaac Newton special on the History channel, the man was really into religion, and secret unknown knowledge hidden in the Bible.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 15, 2012 10:46 PM (NzBQO)

159 Electronic Control Module, that is. There is no way I possibly afford anything else. Even a used anything is out of the question.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 15, 2012 10:47 PM (yiIja)

160 1991 Mazda B2200 pick-up with Extra-cab, 155,000 mi. And with a whooping 85 HP. Did I say whooping horsepower??? 85!! Did I mention that?!

Looks nearly new. A/C has never been serviced and still blows ice cold. It is simply a wonderful thing. Did I say wonderful? It is. It is just wonderful. Been paid for for 22 years.

And grown men stop my wife when she is in it and ask to buy it it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 10:47 PM (4Mv1T)

161 Mobil wanted to advertise Mobil 1 as a 100k oil, but
when they found out what a 100k filter would cost (prototypes that
worked were actually contracted for and designed and built) they gave up
on the idea.


Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:44 PM (G0eua)

Sounds like a great factory installed option for a new car. $100 for the filter would be lost in the noise, and I'd be willing to let the dealer change the oil at 100 kmiles.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 15, 2012 10:47 PM (Cnqmv)

162 "...OR IS this just (partially) political posturing?"

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 10:37 PM (opS9C)

I had exactly the same reaction.

.223 vs. .357 in tissue and bone? I doubt he can say with any certainty whether they were all the rifle.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2012 10:47 PM (GsoHv)

163 107 kbdabear, my wife want to get a Volvo wagon. Should I be worried?

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM (z9HTb)


I know I'm jumping in sideways here, but I have one.

Brand new? Probably fine, if you don't plan to keep it more than 4-5 years.

The Volvos are comfortable, roomy, safe, handle better than most non-sporty cars, etc.

But after 7-10 years, stuff starts breaking and it's a pain to maintain and expensive.

I never buy new cars so take that into account.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 10:47 PM (bxiXv)

164 Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:45 PM (Zd/NW)
- Thanks. Should go to bed sa feel like eyes re being pulled shut nd n

Posted by: Baldy at December 15, 2012 10:47 PM (opS9C)

165 The truck that is.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 10:48 PM (4Mv1T)

166 Re: Twinkies, the idea that Twinkies survive forever is not only a myth, but nearly the opposite of the truth. It's just that Twinkies had such a great distribution system that you never even noticed that you were always looking at fresh product. This is from William Poundstone's Secrets series:

Contrary to popular belief, Twinkies do not have
the shelf life of gravel. The modern Twinkie is
baked in 190-foot-long ovens operating around
the clock. The Continental Baking Company forecasts
sales and delivers only a few days’ supply.
(Demand is remarkably stable. If you’ve got
a Twinkies monkey on your back, he’s on a
short leash.) Twinkies are discarded if they don’t
sell in four days.


I especially like the line about the monkey.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2012 10:48 PM (2IW5Q)

167 107 I never suggest getting a European import unless you have lots of extra $$$. Trust me on that

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 10:49 PM (XDC0v)

168 Evening 'rons,

I love my car, 91,000 miles still running like new. I crunched the numbers though and even owning it 10 years, leasing would have still been cheaper a month. I'm basically gonna have to own it 20 years before I come out ahead.

Unless you plan on keeping the car for decades, is there really any benefit to owning over leasing?

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Are Now Decorated For Christmas at December 15, 2012 10:49 PM (+AV7H)

169 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 10:49 PM (LUnTP)

170 Thanks, kd.

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:50 PM (S+/pH)

171 Road Runner was a 1969 with the 383 4 bbl with the 440 heads and a 4 speed

Wife bought a new '68 Super Bee with same engine and tranny. We still have it, but I tore it down to a million pieces. Don't know if I'll ever get it back together.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 10:51 PM (JgkPs)

172 167
107 I never suggest getting a European import unless you have lots of extra $$$. Trust me on that


True enough, but some of the domestic makers' dealers will make your life about as expensive if you trust them to do your service, which you shouldn't. Lots of great independents out there if you can locate them.

Posted by: Splunge at December 15, 2012 10:51 PM (2IW5Q)

173
250k on the Dodge Ram with religious lil changes; every 5-6k miles. Pullsa 21'sailboat from the water like its nothing and still gets the same mileage it did when it was new.


I run Amsoil in the hog and it makes a huge difference. Shifts and runsquieter and runs cooler in the summer.

The single most important thing you can do to prolong the life of your vehicles is the scheduled maintenance.

Posted by: crotcheyoldjarhead at December 15, 2012 10:52 PM (QeXG/)

174 The modern Twinkie is

baked in 190-foot-long ovens operating around

the clock. The Continental Baking Company forecasts

sales and delivers only a few days’ supply.

Demand is remarkably stable.



Cash cow, Baby!

Posted by: IBCTG union at December 15, 2012 10:52 PM (z9HTb)

175 I find tearing things apart much easier then putting them together.

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 10:52 PM (NIZHJ)

176 Can someone put me some knowledge on why bl*zer is bannable? Sorry for my ignorance.


****

Banned moron. He was funny, but liked to get drunk and push his limits. He eventually went way too far over the line.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:53 PM (piMMO)

177 Was a taxi driver at one point driving a crown vic with more than 430,000 miles on it.

Posted by: Lazarus at December 15, 2012 10:54 PM (q4ggw)

178 107 kbdabear, my wife want to get a Volvo wagon. Should I be worried?



Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:32 PM

They're pretty sturdy and always have a high safety rating, they're roomy and comfy too. Good quality interiors, not the cheap ass plastics that GM cars are cursed with

If she's into speed, it's not going to float her boat, although they have more power than they used to.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:54 PM (wwsoB)

179 144
Can someone put me some knowledge on why bl*zer is bannable? Sorry for my ignorance.

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 10:43 PM (S+/pH)

Several years ago, a moron with that name used to post here. He had a habit of getting into the cups, and one night he did and decided the Head Ewok needed to have some fucking knowledge put on him. Ace banned him. Several days later he decides to post from a friend's computer. Ace reminds him to get the fuck out. He doesn't, decides to doubledown, and gets into it again with Ace, on a Saturday night. Ace not only bans him, but makes even his name banned.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:54 PM (Zd/NW)

180 >>>75 I find tearing things apart much easier then putting them together.
Posted by: Butters

Specially if you use C-4

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 10:54 PM (4Mv1T)

181 Evening morons and 'ettes, early night for me as another 6 am shift beckons tomorrow. Keep your powder dry and the ban hammer ready.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 15, 2012 10:54 PM (83wHT)

182 Banned moron. He was funny, but liked to get drunk and push his limits. He eventually went way too far over the line.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:53 PM

Now that guy got BANNED !!!

Posted by: George Costanza at December 15, 2012 10:55 PM (wwsoB)

183 174
Cash cow, Baby!

IBCTG union at December 15, 2012 10:52 PM (z9HTb)


We milked it and milked it and then it died. Not sure what happened there.


Posted by: Teamsters Local 982, Brotherhood of Snack Conveyers at December 15, 2012 10:55 PM (2IW5Q)

184 Drudge also says Kerry is going to be nominated as SOS. Swift Boat Veterans will probably reunite.

I have email from Powerline that said Hagel is going to be SOS. I haven't read all of it yet.

Posted by: CarolT at December 15, 2012 10:55 PM (z4WKX)

185 Unless you plan on keeping the car for decades, is there really any benefit to owning over leasing?
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Are Now Decorated For Christmas at December 15, 2012 10:49 PM (+AV7H)


Might depend on how much driving you do. Don't leases typically have a yearly mileage limit that you're not supposed to go over?

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:55 PM (GULKT)

186 Used to drive a used 2002 Volvo V70 wagon. The only repair-related problem I had (that wasn't repair shop induced) was that it ate light bulbs. I ended up selling it to my dad after five years when I switched to a new 2011 VW Jetta diesel, which in retrospect was a bit of a fuck-up. Protip - don't do the following things when buying a car:

1.) Don't buy a new car. Let some other sucker take the immediate depreciation hit driving it off the lot;
2.) Make sure when you can see the front end of the car from the driver's seat;
3.) Make sure you can see out your right window when you have a passenger in the front;
4.) Make sure you can see around the rear columns (which is becoming impossible in most vehicles nowadays0;
5.) Air conditioning vents in the back are helpful if you ever have passengers/dogs riding in the back; and
6.) Don't buy a car that incurs $3,000 or higher in damage when accidentally hitting a parking bumper at idling speed because the front end is too low.

Posted by: Professor Marius von Totenkopf (formerly Hoss Fuentes) at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (aozUR)

187 Isaac Newton was definitely an Ass Burger.

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (QTHTd)

188 162 The difference between .223 and .357 is HUGE. Should be obvious which someone got shot with. .223 is 3200 fps. .357 is what 1200? F=MVsquared

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (XDC0v)

189 Sounds like a great factory installed option for a new car.

These days, yea, it would be. 20 years ago I guess it seemed prohibitive. The filter system my friend designed for Mobil was interesting. A huge glob of very fine stainless steel mesh that started out about the size of a cubic yard and then got squashed down to filter size. It was micron grade and had huge internal trapping surface are so it wouldn't clog easily.

My own personal drill on a brand new or rebuilt engine is dead dinosaur oil for the first 5-10 minutes of running, then drain the oil and a filter swap. After 5-10 minutes the old oil is gonna come out looking like metallic paint there so much metal in it. Do that again after a week or so and switch to synth. The dead dino oils seem to promote initial breakin and ring seating a bit better.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (G0eua)

190 Colton proves that grinding can beat superior technique in MMA!

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (I88Jc)

191 They're pretty sturdy and always have a high safety rating, they're
roomy and comfy too. Good quality interiors, not the cheap ass plastics
that GM cars are cursed with



I was joking about them being on your list of lesmobiles.


She perceives it as an anti-status symbol, or something.

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (z9HTb)

192 Funny how that "Georgia" font at AofSHQ makes everything all wacky. I like wacky. It's my native tongue.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (4Mv1T)

193 I have email from Powerline that said Hagel is going to be SOS. I haven't read all of it yet.


***

I thought Hagel was rumored to head up Defense.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (piMMO)

194 For Christ's sake. It's not illegal to sing happy birthday in public because it has copyright. What utter crap.

Posted by: wte9 at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (6Tcdo)

195 Just got rid of my '99 Passat wagon with 183k miles for a new Passat TDI. It was very reliable and fun to drive. Wow! The TDI is a great car.

Posted by: Ben Ghazzi at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (j2YuD)

196 Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.

It not that bad. Didn't hurt my career none.

Posted by: Eddie Murphy at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (2075p)

197 Sorry, I hadn't read email before I posted. Powerline writes that Hagel is up for SOD.
I should have read it before I posted it.
Confirmation hearings for both are going to be contentious. I hope they are televised and we can watch.

Posted by: CarolT at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (z4WKX)

198 I have email from Powerline that said Hagel is going to be SOS. I haven't read all of it yet.
Posted by: CarolT at December 15, 2012 10:55 PM (z4WKX)

Hagel's being considered for Secretary of Defense, no?

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (LUnTP)

199 Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (Zd/NW)

yeah even if you have an open marriage some things are a little beyond the pale.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

200 Look at this. I drop the apple and it lands on the ground.

Posted by: Isaac Newton at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (NIZHJ)

201 If she's into speed, it's not going to float her boat, although they have more power than they used to.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:54 PM (wwsoB)


As much as I complain about reliability, they really do have the characteristics you describe. But don't forget the R models, if you want speed. Not too many people make sporty wagons. Audis are faster, but more expensive.

But don't buy one used or if you plan to keep it for a long time, that's all. Some people get away with it, but all the "old Volvo owners" I know are comfortable under the hood and have shelved full of parts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (bxiXv)

202 So bl@zer is He Who Must Not Be Named?

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (doBIb)

203 My '90 Ramcharger has been nothing but a fucking nightmare.

8 mpg on a good day and the POS leaks coolant to the tune of half a quart a day.

It had potential to be cool but now it's a fucking Adam Sandler bit.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (0WOz6)

204 Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (G0eua)


I have heard to use Dino oil during the break in period then switch to synth.

Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:59 PM (dKV5k)

205 Been going for twenty years in my car. I hope to replace the engine someday and continue to enjoy the lower registration fees.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2012 10:59 PM (FcR7P)

206 I want to buy a 66 Alfa Romeo Spyder convertible so I can be hip and ironic for the 60s Retro theater in Silverlake

How often will I need to have it repaired?

Can I drive it to San Francisco?

Posted by: Annoying Hipster Artist at December 15, 2012 10:59 PM (wwsoB)

207 For Christ's sake. It's not illegal to sing happy birthday in public because it has copyright. What utter crap.
Posted by: wte9 at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (6Tcdo)

Heh, was wondering what the hell they were talking about. Companies pay royalties to use it like any other copyrighted song.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 10:59 PM (LUnTP)

208 Temporarily putting on my tinfoil hat, I'd like to predict that the black boxes mandated for use will have radio activated kill switches. Or at least the protocols and xmitter/recvr circuitry present for later upgrades.

Just in case the law wants to stop your car. Public safety and all that.

And a GPS of course. So they won't have to go to the trouble of having to plant one on the frame to track you.

It will take about 10 years to turnover the majority of vehicles but by 2030, the gov will be able tell you when, where and how you may drive your car. And you won't be able to do squat about it.

It is a privilege you know.

/tinfoil hat off

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 15, 2012 10:59 PM (3E2th)

209 The only reason to lease a car is, well I can't think of one.
You pay for the car and after the lease is up and you still want the vehicle, you have to pay for it again.
I could be wrong.

Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (JgkPs)

210 It not that bad. Didn't hurt my career none.
Posted by: Eddie Murphy at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (2075p)


Nope, it was your choice of movie roles that did that.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (GULKT)

211 Hagel's being considered for Secretary of Defense, no?

Yes, Robert, I hadn't read it before I posted it.

I was feeling disgusted by the link from Drudge to the USA Today with pictures and names of the children killed yesterday.

Posted by: CarolT at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (z4WKX)

212 My daughter (married, heterosexual), bought a Forester. She picked us up at our hotel and had Indigo Girls playing on the stereo. She pre-emptively gave me the "shut up, mom!"

Posted by: Kalneva at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (S+/pH)

213 As much as it pains me to say it I may never buy an American car again. If I do it will be a Ford but I am leaning towards never buying anything union.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (Z9EHQ)

214 162 The difference between .223 and .357 is HUGE. Should be obvious which someone got shot with. .223 is 3200 fps. .357 is what 1200? F=MVsquared
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 10:56 PM (XDC0v)

I would think it has more to do with what casings and fragments have been recovered.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 15, 2012 11:02 PM (nZvGM)

215 It not that bad. Didn't hurt my career none.

Posted by: Eddie Murphy at December 15, 2012 10:57 PM (2075p)

yeah even if you have an open marriage some things are a little beyond the pale.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

Huge difference between blowing a tranny and getting blown by a tranny. Huge.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 11:02 PM (Zd/NW)

216 Re: Volvos

I'm not saying it will break down every day or anything. The difference between a gem and a lemon is not that one will break down every day, just the other will go years without doing so.

Brand new to a few years old, maybe not so bad, though some people have problems. Half the problems are probably bad service departments.

It's after 5-6 years the differences really start to show.

Make sure you can get out of it if it turns out to be a lemon, though.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:02 PM (bxiXv)

217 208 No, you're correct. And insurance rates will be tied to it as Progressive is now doing on a voluntary basis. The justification used will be to replace the gas tax tying tax rates to road use, which hybrids and electric cars have made impossible.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:02 PM (XDC0v)

218 The only reason to lease a car is, well I can't think of one.
You pay for the car and after the lease is up and you still want the vehicle, you have to pay for it again.
I could be wrong.
Posted by: Ronster at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (JgkPs)

the math for leases varies greatly from manyfacturer to manufacturer.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:03 PM (Z9EHQ)

219 214 There is a significant difference in wound cavity caused by hydrostatic shock due to high velocity. Significant.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:04 PM (XDC0v)

220 It is a privilege you know.

I'm more worried about it being used to collect a mileage tax.

Posted by: no good deed at December 15, 2012 11:04 PM (mjR67)

221 Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.


Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (Zd/NW)

Someone talking about me?

Posted by: Sandra (That's a Man, Baby) Fluke at December 15, 2012 11:04 PM (3E2th)

222 216 Volvo station wagon IS a hippie status symbol. Yo0u'd be so much better off with a Ford Flex

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:05 PM (XDC0v)

223 If you lease, you're expected to keep the thing looking good too. No filling the back seat with concrete blocks and using it like a pickup truck.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:05 PM (G0eua)

224
213 As much as it pains me to say it I may never buy an American car again. If I do it will be a Ford but I am leaning towards never buying anything union.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (Z9EHQ)


Eh, just go with a Honda, Most of the engines and cars are built in the US.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 11:06 PM (GULKT)

225 Just got rid of a 2002 Chevy Bla*er with 180k for a '12 Tacoma 4x4. It was time.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:06 PM (lJJMb)

226 Is Huckleberry gonna tell us why he released that cop killer?

Posted by: Butters at December 15, 2012 11:06 PM (NIZHJ)

227 202
So bl@zer is He Who Must Not Be Named?

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 10:58 PM (doBIb)

No. bl@zer is "The Banning Word", "He Who Must Not Be Named" is another blogger who has search engines set up to look for his name being used on other blogs. He is referred to as Carlos Johanson by some.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 11:06 PM (Zd/NW)

228 As much as it pains me to say it I may never buy an American car again.
If I do it will be a Ford but I am leaning towards never buying
anything union.


Remember, UAW makes Fords too.

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:06 PM (doBIb)

229 213- what you said.

I have been a huge fan of American cars (despite the great the Mazda truck I inherited) nevertheless, damn UAW, I am done with American iron. Really done.

Oh, and the 2007 GM vehicle I bought new?? ...with their 20 year old tech 3.4 V6 that they've made forever and works well?? Mine was manufactured in CHY-NUH. CHY_fucking-NUH. Had to have major valve work done at 20K miles. Thankfully under warranty.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 11:07 PM (4Mv1T)

230
221Of course, if I blow a tranny, MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 10:07 PM (Zd/NW

If you blow a tranny and your wife wants a divorce, we would definitely want you to contact our show.

Posted by: Head of Booking, Jerry Springer Show at December 15, 2012 11:07 PM (AC0lD)

231 Huge difference between blowing a tranny and getting blown by a tranny. Huge.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 11:02 PM (Zd/NW)

it is a pretty big difference. When she goes to the beauty parlor and says "so I walk into the room and some guy is blowing him" plays a lot differently than "so I walked into the room and he has his mouthful of some guy's."

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:07 PM (Z9EHQ)

232 "My '90 Ramcharger has been nothing but a fucking nightmare."

What do you want for a 20+ y/o vehicle with 30+ y/o technology?

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (I88Jc)

233 I've got a 99 Century that hasn't hit 100,000 miles
yet. .

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:19 PM (GULKT)
You may get another 100k out of that car. My beater car was a '99 Century, it had 200k on it, running strong but looked like hell - dents all way 'round, blue-gray paint peeling, hubcaps in four states (NOT on the wheels) no a/c, back windows wouldn't go down. LOVED that car. Friend (slumlord) needed a $50 car so he has it now, still rolling. Thing is, when you pull out in traffic in that thing, people get OUT OF THE WAY. So true, so miss that thing, good times. I was in a 5 car pile-up in it outside of Philly and I couldn't identify which dents were new. All the newer cars just crumpled.

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (Lia4j)

234 Few "domestic cars" are made in the U.S.anymore. Flex is made in Canada. The most American-made car is a Nissan.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (XDC0v)

235 There are some decent studies of which cars are reliable or not. You can look those up on an internet.

Try to look for large samples and detailed records, not just interviews or polls.

I don't know if JD Power is the best, but they try:

http://autos.jdpower.com/ratings/

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (bxiXv)

236 I was feeling disgusted by the link from Drudge to the USA Today with pictures and names of the children killed yesterday.
Posted by: CarolT at December 15, 2012 11:00 PM (z4WKX)

For the past few months I've been wanting to bury my head in the sand when shit like that happens. I can't follow it. It's too messed up. That psychotic fuck...

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (LUnTP)

237 Ms. piggy is giving me the pink eye.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:09 PM (uR3yC)

238 I would like to leave a comment, but I can't because I slipped and hit my head.

Posted by: and irresolute at December 15, 2012 11:09 PM (DBH1h)

239 Hey yankeefifth, pretty sure we didn't date. My mom is not a pastor.

But I'm sure I was just as crazy as whoever that girl was.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:09 PM (xzxDr)

240

227 Caniac

I see you ...

Posted by: Larches Sojnnoh at December 15, 2012 11:09 PM (5B5zZ)

241 What's up, night crew?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:10 PM (JDIKC)

242 The most American-made car is a Nissan.
Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (XDC0v)

Toyota makes their pick-ups in San Antonio, I believe. I know they have a facility there. Big news when it was announced.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (LUnTP)

243 As much as it pains me to say it I may never buy an American car again.
If I do it will be a Ford but I am leaning towards never buying
anything union.


Werd!

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (doBIb)

244 What's up, night crew?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:10 PM (JDIKC)

My di...no, no, too easy.

How are you tonight, Mr. of Jeff?

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (LUnTP)

245 242 Yep. Pretty much everything you assume about foreign and domestic is backwards.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (XDC0v)

246 Acura has a plant in Marysville, OH.

Non union ofcourse.

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (doBIb)

247 Want a car that'll run forever? Get you a cheap little 4 cylinder, really doesn't matter what kind. Sure, you won't have any power and people will probably laugh at you but those are the energizer bunny of engines, they just keep going and going and if you take good care of it you'll be getting mid 20's mpg or better even after 200,000 miles.

Posted by: booger at December 15, 2012 11:12 PM (HI6wa)

248 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:10 PM (JDIKC)



EoJ, I think you would've enjoyed how I spent my afternoon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 15, 2012 11:12 PM (GEICT)

249 Hi Robert. I feel the same as you. I go into media silence on these things.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:12 PM (xzxDr)

250 The gas tax is supposed to go for highways but they don't spend it for that. They use it for other mass transit that isn't cost effective.

What I always wonder about is:
1) diesels are just now going to get hit by soot requirements. They've enjoyed a free ride pretty much up til now.
2) the majority of wear and tear on our major highways is from trucks.

how about mandating some reorganization of the transportation rule and incentives to put more stuff on trains. (making them better money makers) and use trucks for local delivery. (the way it was originally imagined until the Teamsters came along.)

Oh yeah them. So much for efficiency and less wear and tear on roads.

Anytime you travel on a highway and run over some washboard like ridges? That's from overweight trucks. Also the grooves that they dig in asphalt is trucks also.

Yeah there's a lot of cars but trucks do more damage per vehicle than cars do.

Posted by: Sandra (That's a Man, Baby) Fluke at December 15, 2012 11:12 PM (3E2th)

251 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 15, 2012 11:12 PM (GEICT)


Lol! Hi BC, did it end well?

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (xzxDr)

252 Howdy, Elizabethe!

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (LUnTP)

253 >>EoJ, I think you would've enjoyed how I spent my afternoon.

Did you catch a matinee of Cats?

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (uR3yC)

254 Toyota makes their pick-ups in San Antonio, I believe. I know they have a facility there. Big news when it was announced.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (LUnTP)


My 2012 Tacoma was made in Meh-Hee-Coe.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (lJJMb)

255 Had to have major valve work done at 20K miles.

The problem with China is material substitutions.

If you're not watching them 7x24x365 and testing each shipment of parts coming in, you're gonna get some stuff substituted with whatever recycled tuna can steel happened to be laying on the floor at a subcontractors shop.

If I had to take a guess, your valve guides went bad, valves started rocking, seals got whupped, and it started burning oil like crazy, right?

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (G0eua)

256 I wonder if Obama gives the finger every time he says "Americans". He sure did yesterday... what a tweaker bitch he is.

Posted by: DAve at December 15, 2012 11:14 PM (XDC0v)

257 My 2012 Tacoma was made in Meh-Hee-Coe.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (lJJMb)

Orrale.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:14 PM (LUnTP)

258 Hey yankeefifth, pretty sure we didn't date. My mom is not a pastor.

But I'm sure I was just as crazy as whoever that girl was.
Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:09 PM (xzxDr)

Elizabethe!

You are a very thorough moron - going back to a previous thread and following through a day later! A fine moron indeed!

I nearly fell out of my chair when I read your description of your journey to the dark side - I was sure I was reading the bio of an old flame. Sadly, for her, I do not think she ever made a course correction, I last heard more than a decade ago, nearly two now, that she had tacked hard left and shredded her charts.



Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:14 PM (Z9EHQ)

259 Lol! Hi BC, did it end well?

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (xzxDr)




It ended, therefore it ended well. Lol. Kiddo rocked it. Was adorable.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 15, 2012 11:14 PM (GEICT)

260 OK, I'm out

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2012 11:15 PM (JMmQ9)

261 If the valves a rockin' you'll hear some knockin'.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:15 PM (uR3yC)

262 it is a pretty big difference. When she goes to the
beauty parlor and says "so I walk into the room and some guy is blowing
him" plays a lot differently than "so I walked into the room and he has
his mouthful of some guy's."

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:07 PM (Z9EHQ)

Either way, I'm cutting my own hair with a rusty pair of child's scissors while she is "getting her hair done" at the beauty parlor with what used to be my money. No thank you. I'd rather fap and keep my money.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 11:15 PM (Zd/NW)

263 Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (LUnTP)

Robert what's the music of choice tonight?

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:15 PM (xzxDr)

264 The Clash of the Redneck Titans in the Octagon pending!

Posted by: It's dialectic; boogy woogy at December 15, 2012 11:15 PM (I88Jc)

265 Oh, Scorpions, even after lo these many years you still know how to rock my shit hard.

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:16 PM (LUnTP)

266 EC, I've thought about checking that out. I hear that prevailing wage is 30$/hour.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 15, 2012 11:16 PM (0WOz6)

267 what's the music of choice tonight?
Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:15 PM (xzxDr)

Was listening to Frank Hannon's (of Tesla) solo album earlier and now I'm listening to Scorpion's Sting In The Tail.

Good shit!

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:17 PM (LUnTP)

268 Just because: http://tinyurl.com/czam7kk

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:17 PM (lJJMb)

269 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:14 PM (Z9EHQ)

Well thank you what a fine compliment. That's too bad about your ex. I don't know what "shredded her charts" means but it does not sound good. I was surely headed in a bad directional well. I seriously credit divine intervention.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:18 PM (xzxDr)

270 Regarding men whomthink they're better looking when they're drinking...Barry in Beerfest beer goggle scenebwas awesome.

Posted by: RWC at December 15, 2012 11:18 PM (sqp6o)

271 changing oil on a benz is a snap. you don't even have to get your hands dirty. 04 and later they have done away with the dipstick (as have bmw & porsche). onboard puter checks your oil to a 1/4 of a qt.

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 15, 2012 11:18 PM (AVfT8)

272 "If the valves a rockin' you'll hear some knockin'."

Ohh myy!

Posted by: Increased Bearing Clearance at December 15, 2012 11:18 PM (I88Jc)

273 95 Volvo with 90k miles. I'll drive it until it starts having big problems ..... then it will be something non-union. Only things that have broken on it so far: the odometer, and the ignition switch. The 5/20 engine purrs, and I like feeling safe.

Posted by: carolina at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (dmqAl)

274 I think MrCaniac is partially right. It's not Chuckles J. but some literally insane woman who goes nuts on anyone who uses her name on the 'net.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (jPVBi)

275 EC, I've thought about checking that out. I hear that prevailing wage is 30$/hour.

Go for it. I love my RDX.

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (doBIb)

276 I spent yesterday evening immersed in TRS-80 nostalgia, which I guess is the 40-year-old-male version of sitting in front of a Dawson's Creek DVD set with a huge tub of Rocky Road.

I mean, what's to say.

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (QTHTd)

277 A bad directional well? Wtf autocorrect?!

It should say a bad direction as well.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:20 PM (xzxDr)

278 Aaaaaannnnndddddddd I'm out.

Good night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at December 15, 2012 11:20 PM (LUnTP)

279 >>> 261 If the valves a rockin' you'll hear some knockin'.

Sounded like the engine was trying to launch one of the valves through the hood like a Polaris submarine.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 11:21 PM (4Mv1T)

280 Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (QTHTd)

Spent my evening LP shopping on eBay. A guy without a life can score some good deals around midnight on afriday.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:22 PM (uR3yC)

281 Enough of the frkin muppets.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 15, 2012 11:22 PM (K3B0+)

282 Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:18 PM (xzxDr)

all I meant by shredded her charts was that she steered liberal and decided never to look back - double down, all in

really smart girl of course had not thought of her for years until I read your paragraph.

I suppose that would make Mrs. Yankeefifth happy to know but hearing anything of her would probably outweigh the good.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (Z9EHQ)

283 276
I spent yesterday evening immersed in TRS-80 nostalgia, which I guess is the 40-year-old-male version of sitting in front of a Dawson's Creek DVD set with a huge tub of Rocky Road.

I mean, what's to say.


Posted by: boulder hobo at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (QTHTd)


Thanks for sharing that nugget of nobody gives a fuck. Now I have that doo-doo-dooooooo-doo-doo-doo-doo I don't wanna wait song stuck in my head.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (lJJMb)

284
233 I've got a 99 Century that hasn't hit 100,000 miles yet. . Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 10:19 PM (GULKT) You may get another 100k out of that car. My beater car was a '99 Century, it had 200k on it, running strong but looked like hell - dents all way 'round, blue-gray paint peeling, hubcaps in four states (NOT on the wheels) no a/c, back windows wouldn't go down. LOVED that car. Friend (slumlord) needed a $50 car so he has it now, still rolling. Thing is, when you pull out in traffic in that thing, people get OUT OF THE WAY. So true, so miss that thing, good times. I was in a 5 car pile-up in it outside of Philly and I couldn't identify which dents were new. All the newer cars just crumpled.
Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:08 PM (Lia4j)


Um no. Its had the head gasket go bad on it already and I had to get them redone because I was not at a place I could just stop so they warped. Have had to get the water pump replaced at least twice. Have had the brake line on the front get a leak and almost cause me to wreck. I will not drive another 100k in it and will hopefully get rid of it before even hitting 100k.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (GULKT)

285 I'm good but slap wore out, Robert. Thanks.

What did you do today, BC?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (JDIKC)

286 250
The gas tax is supposed to go for highways but they don't spend it for
that. They use it for other mass transit that isn't cost effective.

What I always wonder about is:
1) diesels are just now going to get hit by soot requirements. They've enjoyed a free ride pretty much up til now.
2) the majority of wear and tear on our major highways is from trucks.

how
about mandating some reorganization of the transportation rule and
incentives to put more stuff on trains. (making them better money
makers) and use trucks for local delivery. (the way it was originally
imagined until the Teamsters came along.)

Oh yeah them. So much for efficiency and less wear and tear on roads.

Anytime
you travel on a highway and run over some washboard like ridges? That's
from overweight trucks. Also the grooves that they dig in asphalt is
trucks also.

Yeah there's a lot of cars but trucks do more damage per vehicle than cars do.


Posted by: Sandra (That's a Man, Baby) Fluke at December 15, 2012 11:12 PM (3E2th)

Gas taxes average about 49 cents a gallon. Diesel averages about 55 cents a gallon. We start taxing it more, all of our goods will start to cost more.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (Zd/NW)

287 Big Buttery Mullet Country dominates!

Posted by: Increased Bearing Clearance at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (I88Jc)

288 Because of the amount of plastic in new cars (I mean post 1960s), cars just don't last 15-20 years.

The plastics just won't take it. And they put plastic in radiators, door locks, and other places that just need stronger and more durable materials.

You could design a car to last longer, but it would be heavier and more expensive.

So for most people, buy something new or nearly new and replace it after several years. Which works out well for the manufacturers - but they aren't "to blame" in that sense. The regulators want lighter vehicles and so do the buyers, as well as cheaper.

There is a point of diminishing returns. Saab went past that, made some really great (but not *exciting*) cars, and went out of business because they spent more than they made.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:24 PM (bxiXv)

289 Good night Robert. I'm out as well. See you yankeefifth and BCochran and garret.

Posted by: Elizabethe at December 15, 2012 11:24 PM (xzxDr)

290 159k on my 3/4 ton.
About ready for a new clutch. Still on the first set of brakes, though.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:25 PM (uR3yC)

291 Get you a cheap little 4 cylinder...

That's why we bought a Accent. My husband drives 50k.miles a year for work, so we needed something he could drive into the ground. Still going strong at 140K. Had to have the transmission replaced at 95K, but we paid nothing because.it was covered by the powertrain warranty. We're hoping.it will survive past 200,K though since that.only gets us 1 more year...

Posted by: Lauren at December 15, 2012 11:25 PM (wsGWu)

292
246 Acura has a plant in Marysville, OH. Non union ofcourse.
Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:11 PM (doBIb)


That's the Honda plant. There's also one in East Liberty that makes a lot of there SUVs I believe. And the engine plant is in Anna OH. And the Transmission plant is around Indian Lake I believe.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 11:25 PM (GULKT)

293 17 I wonder if the fighting is any good?


Posted by: CDR M at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM

It is if they make out when it's over

Posted by: kbdabear at December 15, 2012 10:03 PM (wwsoB)

~~~~

What he said.

Posted by: The Man From Athens at December 15, 2012 11:25 PM (RXQ2T)

294 285 What did you do today, BC?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:23 PM (JDIKC)




Spent the afternoon/evening watching much song and dance. Very....theatrical.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 15, 2012 11:26 PM (GEICT)

295 Sounded like the engine was trying to launch one of the valves through the hood like a Polaris submarine.

Collapsed hydraulic lifter?

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:26 PM (G0eua)

296 :::253 >>EoJ, I think you would've enjoyed how I spent my afternoon.

Did you catch a matinee of Cats?
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:13 PM (uR3yC):::

You're off the Protected Rolls, fucker.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:26 PM (JDIKC)

297 If money were no object I would drive something made by Paramount. I would love to see the look on bloomberg's face and hear the outrage from the local media as I cruised up and down broadway in this.

http://www.paramountgroup.biz/en/marauder

actually I would prefer their http://www.paramountgroup.biz/en/mbombe but I will save that for the ranch

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

298 There are two links at Drudge saying Senator Horseface is officially President Shitstick's SoS nominee.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2012 11:27 PM (jPVBi)

299 Cairo rejects new draft Constitution. 57 - 43%
More rural areas vote yes.
No final result yet......

Posted by: carolina at December 15, 2012 11:28 PM (dmqAl)

300 Some people play hard to get. I play hard to want.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 15, 2012 11:28 PM (K3B0+)

301 "...get the league up on it's skates in cities like Chicago, New York, Phoenix, Oklahoma and more. ..." Oh, that's good!

Posted by: and irresolute at December 15, 2012 11:28 PM (DBH1h)

302 There are two links at Drudge saying Senator Horseface is officially President Shitstick's SoS nominee.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2012 11:27 PM (jPVBi)

lurch is going to be SoS?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:28 PM (Z9EHQ)

303 What up EoJ? Which flavor bourbon you enjoying tonight?

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:29 PM (uR3yC)

304 Haha, Dana White's gotta be pissed!

Posted by: Increased Bearing Clearance at December 15, 2012 11:29 PM (I88Jc)

305 I can't remember where I saw it, but I do believe the new Mercedes are built in such a way that it is impossible to change your own oil.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Considering waiting until after March Madness. at December 15, 2012 10:24 PM (Gk3SS)

Just bought myself an '88 Mercedes 300TE wagon a few months ago. Oil change is a snap. 148K on the clock, and I expect it to last at least another 3 years without any major service need. Paid 8K for it, should have paid double that. Yes, I do have a reason for saying that.

Posted by: Bill H at December 15, 2012 11:29 PM (3sZO1)

306 night Elizabethe

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:30 PM (Z9EHQ)

307 I am feeling so handsome right now! ... (*tromps off to the kitchen to yell at the Makers Mark for not pouring itself*)

Posted by: and irresolute at December 15, 2012 11:31 PM (DBH1h)

308 The plastics just won't take it.

Some of the newerish VW's used a plastic impeller on the water pumps...that didn't work out too well. They rebuilt a lot of engines for free due to that clusterfuck.

I presume the bean counter who though that was a good idea is inventorying rolls of toilet paper these days.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:31 PM (G0eua)

309 Tonight's looking like a Buffalo Trace night. 5 trips to hockey rinks today and I was on the ice for two of 'em. Need to pour some of Kentucky's finest on my knees. From the inside.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:31 PM (JDIKC)

310 There are two links at Drudge saying Senator Horseface is officially President Shitstick's SoS nominee.
Posted by: andycanuck


Meaningless in the larger picture. The SCoaMF scoamfs as only a SCoaMF can. All personnel follows.

Thus as it always has been, yea, as it always will be.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2012 11:32 PM (TtXjG)

311 Great tribute for the kids on SNL.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 15, 2012 11:32 PM (BVkEs)

312 The 5/20 engine purrs, and I like feeling safe.
Posted by: carolina at December 15, 2012 11:19 PM (dmqAl)


The Volvo 5-cylinder is a great design. Some of the external systems are annoying and they are harder to maintain (but need it less). For example, no valve cover - if you need to work on any of that, the "head" comes off. And that requires a bunch of seals and the liquid gasket and stuff.

I actually *love* Volvos, I just feel like an idiot after I buy one and shit starts breaking. I have one door that can't be opened without cutting it off, and I have had to replace a lot of parts including fixing some massive oil leaks.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:32 PM (bxiXv)

313 There are two links at Drudge saying Senator Horseface is officially President Shitstick's SoS nominee.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2012 11:27 PM (jPVBi)

lurch is going to be SoS?
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:28 PM (Z9EHQ)


I don't know why, but seeing Lurch and SoS together makes me think of Shit on a Shingle.

Posted by: Bill H at December 15, 2012 11:33 PM (3sZO1)

314 Just bought myself an '88 Mercedes 300TE wagon a few months ago. Oil change is a snap. 148K on the clock, and I expect it to last at least another 3 years without any major service need. Paid 8K for it, should have paid double that. Yes, I do have a reason for saying that.
Posted by: Bill H at December 15, 2012 11:29 PM (3sZO1)

mercedes are reliable as heck but the mufflers are a pain.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

315
308 The plastics just won't take it.Some of the newerish VW's used a plastic impeller on the water pumps...that didn't work out too well. They rebuilt a lot of engines for free due to that clusterfuck. I presume the bean counter who though that was a good idea is inventorying rolls of toilet paper these days.
Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:31 PM (G0eua)


Are you kidding? The way cars are today he's probably overseeing the cost savings of the entire engine.

Posted by: buzzion at December 15, 2012 11:33 PM (GULKT)

316 >>>Collapsed hydraulic lifter?

Never got an intelligible diagnosis. Much discussion about so many service bulletins that were out on this valvetrain and had to pester the crap out of them to fix it. They kept saying, "it's characteristic of this engine, and "you have a 100K power-train warranty".

I told them that I sold a butt-load of these cars/engines when I was "between careers" ten years earlier, and that the 3.4 V6 does NOT sound like that when it was made here, and that I no longer felt safe allowing my wife and kids to travel in the vehicle. They fixed it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 11:34 PM (4Mv1T)

317 I'm a few fingers into the Blanton's. Wishingi wasw atc hing somef uckin' hockey.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:34 PM (uR3yC)

318 mercedes are reliable as heck but the mufflers are a pain.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:33 PM (Z9EHQ)
What's the story with the mufflers?

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:35 PM (Lia4j)

319 309
Tonight's looking like a Buffalo Trace night. 5 trips to hockey rinks
today and I was on the ice for two of 'em. Need to pour some of
Kentucky's finest on my knees. From the inside.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:31 PM (JDIKC)



Do you play hockey, or worse, are you a hockey parent?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:36 PM (lJJMb)

320 lurch is going to be SoS?
(Clomp)

Posted by: zombie trigger at December 15, 2012 11:36 PM (jPVBi)

321 Alright, I'm out. See you degenerates tomorrow. Try not to break shit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 15, 2012 11:36 PM (GEICT)

322 :::317 I'm a few fingers into the Blanton's. Wishingi wasw atc hing somef uckin' hockey.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:34 PM (uR3yC):::

That's what I'm talking about.

No Pain, No Pain.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:36 PM (JDIKC)

323 Got 275K on my old 86 Honda Accord 3-door over 16 years. It sat on a pier for a lot of my short duration underways. It was parked during deployments. The car went from Lant to Pac Fleet ports with no problems except speeding tickets. Repairs got to be a problem at the end.




Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 15, 2012 11:36 PM (u82oZ)

324 EoJ, I haven't been here at the same time as you for quite a while. I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed the garbage-man series. Loved!

Posted by: kalneva at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (S+/pH)

325 What's the story with the mufflers?
Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:35 PM (Lia4j)

very expensive.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

326

John Kerry as Secretary of State.

I predict this will not go well ... at all ...

... then the Swift Boat Veterans will get involved again ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (5B5zZ)

327 Bill H: if you go to MB world forums, they'll have a section on your model/year and you can see how to most of the stuff yourself. There are some dedicated pro mechanics over there who are eager to help. many owners post extensive "how to" videos on a wide variety of topics.
also a good source for parts...

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (AVfT8)

328 mercedes are reliable as heck but the mufflers are a pain.

Posted by: yankeefifth


Big fan of bolts welded through the wheels, are you?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 15, 2012 11:38 PM (TtXjG)

329 @ St.Patrick,

Both. I'm asst coach on my son's team and playing in a Saturday night league. My three daughters also play, so weekends are a fuckin blur.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:38 PM (JDIKC)

330 320
lurch is going to be SoS?
(Clomp)

---

John Kerry's first trip overseas will be to Vietnam, where he will bow to his communist masters.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 15, 2012 11:39 PM (BVkEs)

331 Even if you don't intend to modify your car, if you buy one that is popular for modifying, you will be able to get better aftermarket parts - sometimes better than stock. A few hondas, toyotas, as well as older domestic cars and VWs are like that.

For people who want to keep a car more than 10 years. Provided they don't make that illegal or anything.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:39 PM (bxiXv)

332 I don't know why, but seeing Lurch and SoS together makes me think of Shit on a Shingle.
Posted by: Bill H at December 15, 2012 11:33 PM (3sZO1)

it may as well stand for that. anyone willing to work for obama is irretrievably stupid. lurch is going to be another speed bump in the obama regime.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:39 PM (Z9EHQ)

333 Much discussion about so many service bulletins that were out...

That's a "silent recall" - they'll fix it for free if the customer bitches enough, but if you don't bitch, they won't.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:39 PM (G0eua)

334 very expensive.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (Z9EHQ)
GREEEEAAAAT. There's a rattle under mine and I'm afraid to look. Been living in denial about everything since November 6.

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:40 PM (Lia4j)

335 mercedes are reliable as heck but the mufflers are a pain.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:33 PM (Z9EHQ)


True- but like any other "reliable" car, they are labor intensive and you do have to keep after them. Much like all the French cars I've owned.

I'm still looking for another Citroen GS, preferably a wagon.....ooops- did I just say that out loud?

Posted by: Bill H at December 15, 2012 11:40 PM (3sZO1)

336 John Kerry's first trip overseas will be to Vietnam, where he will bow to his communist masters.
Posted by: CraigPoe at December 15, 2012 11:39 PM (BVkEs)

he probably needs to apologize for bleeding all over the place and polluting their rivers with his filthy riverine patrol craft.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

337 EoJ: Bulleit. Period.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:41 PM (MPjT8)

338 Thanks, kalneva. My family asked me every get-together to retell that one to the point where I decided to write it down.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:42 PM (JDIKC)

339 OH! And don't buy ANYTHING from Barnes and Noble for Christmas gifts, or just ever. They charged my credit card for stuff I didn't buy this month.

I called them tonight, and after looking at my account they said. You are correct. That is a whole different name and shipping address. BUT, they said, "You'll have to call a different number after 9:30 tomorrow morning." I said, so this thief/person using my card number can keep charging stuff to you, that my credit card company won't pay for after I call them next, and you are powerless to stop it? They didn't know what to say.

Un-freaking-believeable. It's like they just started selling stuff on line last month and didn't realize that if you operate a mercantile website 24/7 that fraud will also happen 24/7.

Off soap box. Like anybody will read this rant. Don't do business with them. It is just awful.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 11:42 PM (4Mv1T)

340 326




John Kerry as Secretary of State.



I predict this will not go well ... at all ...



... then the Swift Boat Veterans will get involved again ...





Posted by: Arbalest at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (5B5zZ)

---
And then there's Teresa "Burp" Heinz to contend with.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 15, 2012 11:42 PM (BVkEs)

341 GREEEEAAAAT. There's a rattle under mine and I'm afraid to look. Been living in denial about everything since November 6.

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:40 PM (Lia4j)


A good custom muffler shop will probably be able to fabricate something for a lot less than OEM.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:43 PM (bxiXv)

342 GREEEEAAAAT. There's a rattle under mine and I'm afraid to look. Been living in denial about everything since November 6.

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:40 PM (Lia4j)

a little trick I learned is that you can save some money by buying the parts yourself and having the dealer install them. If you have or know someone who has their own corporation subs, proprietorship, they can usually order the parts wholesale from suppliers - even if you are not in the automotive business. every so often a guy shows up at our house or my parents with a big package of auto parts.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:43 PM (Z9EHQ)

343 329
@ St.Patrick,



Both. I'm asst coach on my son's team and playing in a Saturday
night league. My three daughters also play, so weekends are a fuckin
blur.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:38 PM (JDIKC)


Good for you - it's the best of the team sports for teaching both strength through unity and success through creativity and individualism. I played the game for years and coached high school for many years as well, but just got retired due to injury. Weird part about the last sentence? I'm 33.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:43 PM (lJJMb)

344 Bulleit's pretty good. Haven't had that in a while. Need to grab some next time I'm at the Communist Liquor Collective.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 15, 2012 11:44 PM (JDIKC)

345 I actually *love* Volvos, I just feel like an idiot after I buy one and
shit starts breaking. I have one door that can't be opened without
cutting it off, and I have had to replace a lot of parts including
fixing some massive oil leaks.

That would upset me too! I've been lucky with this 850 GLT. Don't think I would buy another Volvo now, with the change in ownership. I hope this one lasts another 17 years.

Posted by: carolina at December 15, 2012 11:44 PM (jjmSa)

346 Nathan Bedford Forest shall rise again in the UFC!

Posted by: Increased Bearing Clearance at December 15, 2012 11:45 PM (I88Jc)

347 And don't buy ANYTHING from Barnes and Noble for Christmas gifts, or just ever.

I did a contract gig at bn.com some years ago. Your story does not surprise me at all. Their IT staff were reckless gunslingers.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:46 PM (G0eua)

348 a little trick I learned is that you can save some
money by buying the parts yourself and having the dealer install them.
If you have or know someone who has their own corporation subs,
proprietorship, they can usually order the parts wholesale from
suppliers - even if you are not in the automotive business. every so
often a guy shows up at our house or my parents with a big package of
auto parts.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:43 PM (Z9EHQ)

GREAT tip, thanks! I probably shouldn't wait until it drags the ground or something. UGH. Need to check it out.

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:48 PM (Lia4j)

349 There's a foreign specialty garage here that's been around forever and has a great rep, what's funny is that it's in a shitty part of town and for whatever reason they just won't move, so when you drive by you see this slum looking area and right in the middle of it is this garage full of porsches and ferraris etc., i'm always amazed that they've never had any kind of crime problem, at least not their garage specifically.

Posted by: booger at December 15, 2012 11:48 PM (HI6wa)

350 OT. Went to see The Hobbit this afternoon in 3D. Go see it.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 15, 2012 11:48 PM (HiKk0)

351 and another thing, if I, or rather when i get my Marauder or Mbombe I am going to have some seventies van mural painted on the side to make it less threatening. may get an "if this mrap is a rockin' don't bother knockin'" bumper sticker.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

352 So I guess this registered sex offender (no, really) lied when he said he wrote it. It is a wonderful rendition, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA07EPOdZQ8

Posted by: Snotnosed Nuclear Sonic Punk at December 15, 2012 11:49 PM (Y+woW)

353 A good custom muffler shop will probably be able to fabricate something for a lot less than OEM.

Some galvanized roof flashing, hi-temp silicone, and big stainless hose clamps will extract a lot more mileage out of a blown muffler

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM (G0eua)

354
So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns. If I buy an AR this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it confiscated.
\
thoughts?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM (MPjT8)

355 347- Whats' craziest is that i used my usual ploy, and called a second time after i got an unsatisfactory answer the first time. Second person was more forthcoming about what happened. The first one shut-up once she saw something was happening on my account. It is apparently a policy thing. She couldn't do anything to fic things even though it was crystal clear what was happening. In fact, neither one of them even knew that the "sales audit/loss prevention" people were closed at night until they both tried to transfer my call.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 11:51 PM (4Mv1T)

356 Posted by: D. Hopper at December 15, 2012 11:37 PM (AVfT

Thanks for the tip. I already go to Benz World on occasion. I really do spend wayyyyy too much time at AussieFrogs......

lurch is going to be another speed bump in the obama regime.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 15, 2012 11:39 PM (Z9EHQ)

Yah, I can see THAT being seared into his memory.

GREEEEAAAAT. There's a rattle under mine and I'm afraid to look. Been living in denial about everything since November 6.

Posted by: Rural VA at December 15, 2012 11:40 PM (Lia4j)


Don't let that go. A 100.00 fix now easily turns into a 500.00 fix 6 months from now. I do speak from experience.

Posted by: Bill H at December 15, 2012 11:51 PM (3sZO1)

357 Well this always makes me happy, so here you go: http://tinyurl.com/6jcnwo

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:52 PM (lJJMb)

358 "I can't believe people spend money on studies like this."
---
Have you actually spoken to Psych majors recently? It's not all that surprising.

[Not to knock all people in psych, but you have to admit, there's usually a lot more chaff that dept. that wheat...]

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 11:52 PM (Y5I9o)

359 Yesterday, my son was in a school play. He was an "Indian" who dumped tea over the side of a ship during the Boston Tea Party.

So proud of him!

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:53 PM (doBIb)

360 Breaking: Susan Rice has just challenged Lindsay Graham to a cage match

Devolving.....

Posted by: CraigPoe/cbslocal at December 15, 2012 11:53 PM (BVkEs)

361 354-

I am delivering an LC Smith shotgun in state tomorrow two hours away that I sold on-line today. I sold it SPECIFICALLY for funds to buy an AR for the "rainy days" that I expect soon.

I wondered the same thing as you. Might be better to buy from an individual so there is no paper trail.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 15, 2012 11:53 PM (4Mv1T)

362 So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns. If I buy an AR this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it confiscated.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM (MPjT


Unless your name is Aaron A. Aaronson, they probably won't make it to you on the list.

Given the number of people who don't answer surveys, especially about things like this, there are probably 180-200 million people in the country who have guns.

It would take decades to actually disarm them without a bigger army than exists. They will go after sales first.

There have been a few confiscations, on the small scale. Test runs if you will. Wide-scale would be a war, hopefully they're not that stupid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:54 PM (bxiXv)

363 So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns. If I buy an AR this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it confiscated



There's a risk of losing it in a boating accident.

*wink*

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:54 PM (doBIb)

364 Of course if I blow a tranny,MrsCaniac will probably divorce me.




What happens when you blow a seal?

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 15, 2012 11:54 PM (HiKk0)

365 [Not to knock all people in psych, but you have to admit, there's usually a lot more chaff that dept. that wheat...]

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 11:52 PM (Y5I9o)

It's actually bullshit all the way down.

Posted by: The Turtles are tired of being blamed at December 15, 2012 11:55 PM (lJJMb)

366 360 Breaking: Susan Rice has just challenged Lindsay Graham to a cage match

Devolving.....
Posted by: CraigPoe/cbslocal at December 15, 2012 11:53 PM (BVkEs)
---
How much longer until we reach the point where this is actually plausible?

It might be worth it to start a tradition of watching Idiocracy every new year's eve and ticking off a list of how much closer we're getting.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 11:55 PM (Y5I9o)

367 @365osted by: The Turtles are tired of being blamed at December 15, 2012 11:55 PM (lJJMb)
--
Indeed, those turtles do take an unfair beating

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 11:56 PM (Y5I9o)

368 got 2 honda vans; a 99 with 195k and a 12 with 9k. at the rate we put miles on them they both could last until we dont have kids at home. also have an 07 mx-5 to balance the hipness of our fleet. the blackbox thing is a potential pain in the ass but the 07 gets gets us in before the mandatory traction control. i may never buy another drivers car again. that and the abs destroys the handling.

Posted by: pashmr at December 15, 2012 11:56 PM (nlfBL)

369 Also, people buying ARs - don't listen to Gun Counter Guy. Do a little research on brands and configurations. It doesn't have to take long, you can find out everything you need in an hour.

They Are Not All Interchangeable.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:56 PM (bxiXv)

370 The first rule of gun acquisition club...

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:57 PM (ICDox)

371 hopefully they're not that stupid.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:54 PM (bxiXv)


The bad boys they'd send after "us" would also be us. They know there are limits, and they hate it.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 15, 2012 11:58 PM (lJJMb)

372 The second rule of gun acquisition club...

Posted by: EC at December 15, 2012 11:58 PM (doBIb)

373 Mine is a bone stock genuine Colt CAR-15.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:58 PM (G0eua)

374 "What happens when you blow a seal?"

European or Japanese industries swallowing?

Posted by: Jeopardy at December 15, 2012 11:58 PM (I88Jc)

375 @365:It's actually bullshit all the way down.
Posted by: The Turtles are tired of being blamed at December 15, 2012 11:55 PM (lJJMb)
--

Oh, and my favorite story from a math prof is that a visiting psych prof came by his office to get the precise mathematical description for a model of a "parabola with asymptotes". He replied, of course, that a parabola doesn't have asymptotes, and he proceeded to show her the proper model that she was looking for. When the paper was eventually published, he saw a copy and sure enough there was not the correct model he gave her, but a "parabola with asymptotes".

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 15, 2012 11:59 PM (Y5I9o)

376 Well Hillary got her ambassador whacked in a crazy kidnap to exchange for blind shiek gambit that wnt bad so that's kinda hard for the Christmas in Cambodia kid to top. He'll have to do. Pray for America.

Posted by: torabora at December 15, 2012 11:59 PM (I+Z9T)

377 So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns. If I buy an AR this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it confiscated. \thoughts?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM


Depends if you want to use it right away. If it's going to get as bad as expected, you should be really careful transporting across a deep body of water, etc. Then there's always the chance that they'll go with a buy back. But, maybe not.

Posted by: otho at December 15, 2012 11:59 PM (yBF/9)

378 354

So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns. If I buy an AR
this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it confiscated.
\
thoughts?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM (MPjT

Should be able to keep em if you already have them. Either that or it will be like "eminent domain" in that the government would have to reimburse you for taking your property.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 12:00 AM (Zd/NW)

379 Either that or it will be like "eminent domain" in that the government would have to reimburse you for taking your property.


Like Kelo vs New London?

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:01 AM (doBIb)

380 also have an 07 mx-5 to balance the hipness of our fleet.

Nice, i had an mx 6 that i absolutely loved, great little car. I'd still have it if that drunk driver hadnt smashed into me.

Posted by: booger at December 16, 2012 12:01 AM (HI6wa)

381 When Sandra Fluke blew the seventh seal . . .

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 16, 2012 12:01 AM (QTHTd)

382
What happens when you blow a seal?

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 15, 2012 11:54 PM (HiKk0)

I go to Greenpeace jail.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 12:02 AM (Zd/NW)

383 206
I want to buy a 66 Alfa Romeo Spyder convertible so I can be hip and ironic for the 60s Retro theater in Silverlake

How often will I need to have it repaired?

Can I drive it to San Francisco?


Posted by: Annoying Hipster Artist at December 15, 2012 10:59 PM

Of course. Just remember that Alfa Romeo is Italian for
"British Leyland"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 16, 2012 12:03 AM (wwsoB)

384 Damn, only I am too stupid to eff up a Python reference.

Posted by: Tard-is Traveller at 374 at December 16, 2012 12:03 AM (I88Jc)

385 Had to buy a car this year when the timing chain in my '04 Chevy Cavalier broke and wrecked the engine. It would cost to to fix than the value of the old wreck.

So now, I have a '01 Ford Focus wagon, 25 in the city, 30 on the highway, and only 67k on it when I bought it. Runs great, and I hope to keep it for another 5-6 years.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 16, 2012 12:03 AM (5J54Q)

386 don't listen to Gun Counter Guy

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 15, 2012 11:56 PM (bxiXv)

So i shouldn't have gotten The 454 Casull pistol for my aging mother for Christmas?

Dammit.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (sqp6o)

387 Also, people buying ARs - don't listen to Gun Counter Guy. Do a little research on brands and configurations. It doesn't have to take long, you can find out everything you need in an hour.

They Are Not All Interchangeable.

Posted by: Merovign


Right, so is the S amp; W Sport able to accept after-market uppers?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (TtXjG)

388 >>>They Are Not All Interchangeable.

I sold an 85 year old classic double shotgun that's gathered dust since 1949 for three generations so I can buy an AR for potential future defense, that will also likely (and hopefully) sit in the gun safe and gather dust.

The shotgun sold for $35 new in 1928, and I got $1200 today. Which AR do I need to buy that will be recognized as a "classic" 40 years from now when my kids sell it?

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (4Mv1T)

389 get the precise mathematical description for a model of a "parabola with asymptotes"

Catenary's look vaguely parabolic but have defined range on the X axis. If Y is large they'll look pretty asymptotic at the X limits

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (G0eua)

390 373 Mine is a bone stock genuine Colt CAR-15.
Posted by: Winston Smith at December 15, 2012 11:58 PM (G0eua)


For good info I prefer m4carbine.net

They are seriously hoity-toity and not always right, but they are *trying* to take it seriously and depend on experience and measurable characteristics instead of word-of-mouth.

They have a rather unusually large number of high-volume armorers commenting there.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:05 AM (bxiXv)

391 79
Why force everyone to get a new car?

---------

The primary aim of modern warfare (in accordance with the principles of doublethink,
this aim is simultaneously recognized and not recognized by the
directing brains of the Inner Party) is to use up the products of the
machine without raising the general standard of living. Ever since the
end of the nineteenth century, the problem of what to do with the
surplus of consumption goods has been latent in industrial society.

Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein at December 16, 2012 12:05 AM (1c58W)

392 Which AR do I need to buy that will be recognized as a "classic" 40 years from now when my kids sell it?


Colt.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:05 AM (doBIb)

393 Thankfully with our carbon emissions making the earth hotter.

If this rain was snow we'd be F'ed.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:05 AM (sqp6o)

394 If you want a vehicle for the zombie apocalypse, a diesel would be the best bet since you can make bio fuel to get you out of town

Apocalypse car if you could at least score some petrol? Old VW Beetle

Posted by: kbdabear at December 16, 2012 12:06 AM (wwsoB)

395 387 Yes

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:06 AM (XDC0v)

396
Like Kelo vs New London?



Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:01 AM (doBIb)

Yes. If the government takes your property, they must pay you. The taking in Kelo to pass along to a private developer sucked, but if New London took the property for a library, it would be for the "public good". New London just needs to pay "fair market value" for the taken property. If the government takes your guns, they should have to do that.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 12:07 AM (Zd/NW)

397 396 Would not could not will not happen.. Why speculate?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:08 AM (XDC0v)

398 If the government takes your guns, they should have to do that.



It's my understanding the people who lived in those houses got fuckall.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:08 AM (doBIb)

399 So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns. If I buy an AR this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it confiscated.
\
thoughts?
Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM (MPjT

Do you really think so? I am sure they want to but appreciation of guns is nearly ubiquitous in the U.S. - even california has fairly reasonable gun laws and there are a lot of ars and aks in california.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:09 AM (Z9EHQ)

400 98 It was invented for spite, to screw over a customer, and the customer loved them.

--------

Personally, I think it's proof of time travel. The complaining customer was obviously a time traveller who wanted potato chips and knew what they were.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at December 16, 2012 12:10 AM (1c58W)

401 Old VW Beetle

EMP proof if is old enough to have a carb and not the later EFI stuff.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:10 AM (G0eua)

402 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 16, 2012 12:03 AM (5J54Q)

That makes me nervous since our "around town" car is an '04 Cavilier. I just had to have the starter replaced too. Were there any warning signs or anything I could keep an eye out for? Another problem with Cash-for-Clunkers is that there are going to be few reasonably priced older cars for new drivers. This means that I *really* want the Cavilier to survive so that Eldest Kidlet can use it as a learning car.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 16, 2012 12:10 AM (wbeNt)

403 For those who want muscle for the post apocalypse;

Mad Max Cars

http://tinyurl.com/cpknh8q

Posted by: kbdabear at December 16, 2012 12:10 AM (wwsoB)

404
The shotgun sold for $35 new in 1928, and I got
$1200 today. Which AR do I need to buy that will be recognized as a
"classic" 40 years from now when my kids sell it?

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (4Mv1T)

I think any AR will be a collectors item in 40 years with the way shit is going.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 12:11 AM (Zd/NW)

405 If government outlaws gun, only government will have guns.

Right back where we started from.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 16, 2012 12:11 AM (BVkEs)

406 New London just needs to pay "fair market value" for the taken property. If the government takes your guns, they should have to do that.
Posted by: MrCaniac


Of course the problem there is that the arms of the Federal government can and have 'adjusted' the price of property.

"Hey, we just found a gossamer unicorn hooded snail on your property. It's now an official protected domain. Yeah, you can't sell it anymore."

Boom. Zero point zero dollars.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2012 12:11 AM (TtXjG)

407 So look. I guarantee they are coming for the guns.
If I buy an AR this week, I'd hate to spend the money and then have it
confiscated.
\
thoughts?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 15, 2012 11:50 PM (MPjT

I don't have any guns that anyone in the .gov knows about/can prove.

And I tend to drive cars until the wheels fall off of them, so I'll be Mustanging for years to come. I plan to be buried in that car so the kids don't fight over it.

Howdy roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:12 AM (yh0zB)

408 FMV for prohibited contraband is $0.00.

They'll reimburse you buy the pound at scrap value.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:12 AM (G0eua)

409 The govt will pay whatever they think is fair in eminent domain cases, meaning it won't be. They carved a highway through our family farmland and we are slowly but surely finding that our lawyers are as big as their dooffus clerks, and they are paying us x4 what they originally offered.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 16, 2012 12:12 AM (4Mv1T)

410 Right, so is the S amp; W Sport able to accept after-market uppers?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (TtXjG)


If the aftermarket uppers follow standards, sure.

In theory, everybody follows the same specs. Cheaper outfits will tend to screw up more.

With a few exceptions, for example, early on Colt was pressured to find a way to prevent auto parts kits from being installed, so they changed a couple of pin sizes on civilian guns. No one else followed suit, it doesn't matter anymore except that a lot of Colt guns require different parts kits (or at least the relevant parts).

Otherwise Colt make excellent guns, in fact, the standard to which others are compared.

The shotgun sold for $35 new in 1928, and I got $1200 today. Which AR do I need to buy that will be recognized as a "classic" 40 years from now when my kids sell it?
Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 16, 2012 12:04 AM (4Mv1T)


No way to say who else, but certainly Colt. Any of the "top tier" manufacturers should be, Bravo Company, Noveske, LMT, Spike's.

The Tier thing doesn't tell you everything, it isn't magic, lower-tier guns can be fine. And it's a moving target, sadly.

The Tier system is based on manufacturing standards, materials and measurements.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:15 AM (bxiXv)

411 The benevolent .gov will take whatever they wish...eventually.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 16, 2012 12:15 AM (lJJMb)

412 The govt will pay whatever they think is fair in
eminent domain cases, meaning it won't be. They carved a highway through
our family farmland and we are slowly but surely finding that our
lawyers are as big as their dooffus clerks, and they are paying us x4
what they originally offered.

Posted by: Tobacco Road


The Bureaucratic Empire doesn't have to be smart about the short-term accounting.

All that matters is that individuals are numbered and accounted for.

They can knock on your door in a few years and describe how you are going to help them. After all, fair is fair.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2012 12:16 AM (TtXjG)

413 You can take me guns, but ya'll never take me scimitarrrssss!

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 12:16 AM (I88Jc)

414 Does anyone outside of MA know that John Kerry used to live out of his car?
One of his nicknames is Liveshot, because he used to show up at any opportunity to have his picture taken.
We want to get rid of him in MA but I think he would offend other countries as SOS. The man is a jerk.

Posted by: CarolT at December 16, 2012 12:18 AM (z4WKX)

415 Question for the historians: I've read before that during WWII, US artillery was very effective compared to other countries.

Any good books you'd recommend for further reading on the subject?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 16, 2012 12:18 AM (xHaTb)

416 The man is a jerk.
Posted by: CarolT at December 16, 2012 12:18 AM (z4WKX)

seeing as he is from your state I believe the correct term for lurch is masshole.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:19 AM (Z9EHQ)

417 I've read before that during WWII, US artillery was very effective compared to other countries.



Hahaha...come here Amerikaner!

Posted by: German 88 at December 16, 2012 12:20 AM (doBIb)

418 even california has fairly reasonable gun laws and there are a lot of ars and aks in california.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:09 AM (Z9EHQ)


The law is a ridiculous patchwork, actually, but there's a shit-ton of so-called "evil rifles" and though they are slightly crippled you can get most new ones here now.

The big recent reforms have been the courts demanding consistency which has removed some restrictions. More cases are coming up.

With regards to eminent domain and confiscation, the USC just reaffirmed the 2nd as an individual right. They can't just go Kelo, it would be a coup.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:20 AM (bxiXv)

419 You can take me guns, but ya'll never take me scimitarrrssss!
Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia


Someone needs to trident your ass.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:20 AM (TtXjG)

420 >>>They can knock on your door in a few years and describe how you are going to help them. After all, fair is fair.

After we got a more favorable settlement on the farmland, they tried to bill us for the "new" taxes that should have been paid on the "revised" accessed tax value, back as far as the statute of limitations would allow them. Fuckers.

Got that reversed. Say what you will about lawyers, but a good one is worth more than his weight in gold.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 16, 2012 12:21 AM (4Mv1T)

421 They can't just go Kelo, it would be a coup.



I'm hoping they will try. Reeeally hoping they try.

Posted by: German 88 at December 16, 2012 12:21 AM (doBIb)

422 More people died from teh AIDS in the past 30 years than from gun violence. People don't kill people, dicks kill people. We need to have a national discussion about the dangers of butt-sex and easy access to butts! There are over 300 million butts in America. It is time we stopped the madness!

Posted by: jdw at December 16, 2012 12:21 AM (11KLF)

423 Off sock.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:22 AM (doBIb)

424 With regards to eminent domain and confiscation, the USC just reaffirmed the 2nd as an individual right. They can't just go Kelo, it would be a coup.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:20 AM (bxiXv)

yeah, in 100 years, if everything continues as it is that is going to be taught as "roberts folly"

I do agree, popular and legal opinion are trending in the direction of preserving second amendment rights.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:22 AM (Z9EHQ)

425 Hey, Kids

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (kfC1R)

426 If the govt limits access to certain firearms via licence/permits etc, or an outright no sale ban, the compensation in a take could get very low, even if they go with "fair value". Put a choke on buyers and the price on 2nd hand, partuicularly,may drop significantly. It won't be what today's going price will be. There'll be a relative glut of firearms with far fewer potential buyers.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (yBF/9)

427 Any good books you'd recommend for further reading on the subject?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 16, 2012 12:18 AM (xHaTb)


Since all I would do would be to search for "American artillery WWII book" online, just do that if you haven't already.

The internet is like the WWII Channel, there's tons of stuff there.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (bxiXv)

428 I'm hoping they will try. Reeeally hoping they try.

Posted by: German 88


Is Stormfront down?

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (TtXjG)

429 414
Does anyone outside of MA know that John Kerry used to live out of his car?

One of his nicknames is Liveshot, because he used to show up at any opportunity to have his picture taken.

We want to get rid of him in MA but I think he would offend other countries as SOS. The man is a jerk.

Posted by: CarolT at December 16, 2012 12:18 AM

I knew that after the divorce from his first heiress wife, he was bumming around sleeping on couches of friends. When he moved on Teresa before John Heinz's body was cold, he went from being the poorest to the richest Senator the minute he said "I Do"


Posted by: kbdabear at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (wwsoB)

430
It's my understanding the people who lived in those houses got fuckall.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:08 AM (doBIb)

My understanding is that after all the court fees and back taxes they didn't get anything, but they would have gotten fair market value.

Even after this case, all the changes in eminent domain laws haven't done shit for cases like this. The legislatures all changed their eminent domain laws to make it sound like these types of takings can't be done, but the exceptions they made in these laws still allow Kelo style takings to be done. Instead of it being an industrial/office development, it becomes a park that is being downsized from the original plans, so they sell the surrounding property to MrDeveloper.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 12:24 AM (Zd/NW)

431 Burgundy, keep working your podunk affiliates because the head honchos at corporate appreciate that I grew up on the mean streets after waking up on monogrammed sheets.

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 12:24 AM (I88Jc)

432 Never bring a repeal of the 2nd Amendment to a gunfight.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 16, 2012 12:25 AM (BVkEs)

433 If the govt limits access to certain firearms via licence/permits etc, or an outright no sale ban, the compensation in a take could get very low, even if they go with "fair value". Put a choke on buyers and the price on 2nd hand, partuicularly,may drop significantly. It won't be what today's going price will be. There'll be a relative glut of firearms with far fewer potential buyers.
Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (yBF/9)

everyone is already producing at maximum capacity for firearms and ammunition, any disruption in supply would probably force prices higher.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:25 AM (Z9EHQ)

434 Since all I would do would be to search for "American artillery WWII book" online, just do that if you haven't already.


If Anna Puma were here, she'd be all over you.


Not like that, though.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:25 AM (doBIb)

435 Yeah... they're gonna confiscate guns... they're gonna search every building in the United States... porous border... ever hear any advice about going full retard???

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:26 AM (XDC0v)

436 Over and out, all. Got to drive some tomorrow.

Posted by: Tobacco Road, stuck in the ditch at December 16, 2012 12:27 AM (4Mv1T)

437 It's my understanding the people who lived in those houses got fuckall.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:08 AM (doBIb)

No no no, they loved paying their fare share.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:28 AM (sqp6o)

438 I had never heard American artillery was especially effective - not to knock our guys. The germans frequently commented on the American's ability to draw on enormous supplies of artillery while they, the germans, had relatively small supplies and had to be much more niggardly in their application.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:28 AM (Z9EHQ)

439 I'm hoping they will try. Reeeally hoping they try.

Posted by: German 88 at December 16, 2012 12:21 AM (doBIb)


Nothing good could ever come from that. No matter what happens, even under the best possible rosy-glasses scenario, life would be worse after than before.

Anyone who died would die unnecessarily and it would almost certainly spiral out of control.

I'm hoping people come to their Goddamned senses, but it's a vain hope.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:28 AM (bxiXv)

440 AR's are currently $599 all day long. Cheapest THEY'VE EVER BEEN

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:28 AM (XDC0v)

441 AR's are currently $599 all day long. Cheapest THEY'VE EVER BEEN
Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:28 AM (XDC0v)

which brands?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:29 AM (Z9EHQ)

442 Burgundy, keep working your podunk affiliates because the head honchos at corporate appreciate that I grew up on the mean streets after waking up on monogrammed sheets.
Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia


I believe you are missing a verb in that sentence, but I'm just a poor duck affiliate.

Have you tried PHONICS FOR LIFE? Good stuff. Good Stuff.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:29 AM (TtXjG)

443 Yes. If the government takes your property, they must pay you.


====


wasn't that the built-in constitutional solution that prevented the folly and bloodshed of the Civil War (aka The War of Northern Aggression) ??



Oh, right. When it is real money the constitution no longer applies. I forgot. Never mind.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 12:30 AM (kfC1R)

444 441 Deltons and dpms, for instance. And that's in CALIFORNIA.

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:30 AM (XDC0v)

445 everyone is already producing at maximum capacity for firearms and ammunition, any disruption in supply would probably force prices higher.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:25 AM


Understood. But, I was referring to restricting buyers, not supply.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 12:30 AM (yBF/9)

446 Hurry up SMOD. I just watched a commercial where the gals use their bras for an emergency respirator.

End times...faster please.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:31 AM (sqp6o)

447 Evening all.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:31 AM (Ai+tZ)

448 I have mentioned this before but so I apologize in advance, but I have been wondering if the whole civil war thing might have been avoided if the government had simply bought the slaves at a fair price instead of pushing to free them without compensation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:32 AM (Z9EHQ)

449 I just watched a commercial where the gals use their bras for an emergency respirator.


The girls with gel bras would be screwed.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:32 AM (doBIb)

450 Polliwog: From what I've been able to discover, it's not a common problem. So I wouldn't worry.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 16, 2012 12:33 AM (5J54Q)

451 We want to get rid of him in MA but I think he would offend other countries as SOS. The man is a jerk.

Posted by: CarolT at December 16, 2012 12:18 AM (z4WKX)


So we could send him to Bengazi...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:33 AM (yh0zB)

452 DAve, where can I buy an AR for $599? I can get a DPMS for about 8 bills, but six? I'll take three.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:33 AM (Ai+tZ)

453 Evening all. Posted by: DC in Towson

You confuse me. Are you in DC or Townson?

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:33 AM (TtXjG)

454 So we could send him to Bengazi...

Nah, he'd just get a couple of scratches and get sent home 6 months early.

Posted by: Alex at December 16, 2012 12:34 AM (o1kXv)

455 http://tinyurl.com/a46cm How many $600 AR's would you like? C'mon people this conversation is getting way past absurd

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:34 AM (XDC0v)

456 Understood. But, I was referring to restricting buyers, not supply.
Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 12:30 AM (yBF/9)

I understand. my thought was that the first signs of someone moving to restrict guns in any way would be to increase demand before the restrictions went into effect, even if it was only placing orders to get grandfathered in.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:34 AM (Z9EHQ)

457 Evenin DC in Towson!



Got a bunch of ammo for the SCAR, some PMAG's, Magpul foregrip, and an Aimpoint RDS on the way! Can't wait to take her out.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (doBIb)

458 All the talk of confiscation reminded me of this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=AQ6Q3BfbVBU

Posted by: booger at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (HI6wa)

459 Instead of it being an industrial/office development, it becomes a park
that is being downsized from the original plans


Or just do something like Palm Beach did around the airport. A whole neighborhood was leveled for a claimed runway expansion that never happened. That was about 20 years ago...and the runway's the same as it always was, but a kinda slumy neighborhood that was annoying got removed.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (G0eua)

460 Burgundy, had you roughed the toughest prep schools north of the Berkshires, as I did, you'd recognize that imperative statement.

I'd wage your school jacket had no lapel or pocket to put in a signalling device for the queer, er--inquisitive boys!

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (I88Jc)

461 449
I just watched a commercial where the gals use their bras for an emergency respirator.





The girls with gel bras would be screwed.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:32 AM

Sounds like a great occasion to set off a stink bomb at a Victoria's Secret show

Posted by: kbdabear at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (wwsoB)

462 I have been wondering if the whole civil war thing
might have been avoided if the government had simply bought the slaves
at a fair price instead of pushing to free them without compensation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:32 AM (Z9EHQ)


But then you have not answered the question of if it is right for one man to claim another as property, leave alone all the other "reasons" that have been given (here's a hint, every single reason comes back to slavery).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (yh0zB)

463 Because of a class action I discovered on the 'net (not publicized, and with hoops to go through to be covered by), Toyota rebuilt the V6 in our dorky 2002 Siena van two years ago, at no cost. We took the opportunity to change the timing belt and rebuild the front suspension as well, since the engine had to be taken out.

The odometer says 82K, but that car, with a perfect exterior, runs like a clean, mean 'chine.

No way we're trading it in.

We've also got a 1997 Honda Accord wagon with only 80K on it (wife uses it to go back and forth to work two-three times a week).

A couple of dents, but it's rust-free and doing fine. We're gonna give it to our oldest kid.

Oh, and it helps to have a great mechanic. If you've not got one yet, find one and hold on to him for dear life. Mine helped me jump through the hoops to get that Toyota rebuilt. I gave him a gift cert to a fancy restaurant for his help.

That's the way things are supposed to work here in the USA.


Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 16, 2012 12:36 AM (9gW0q)

464 448
I have mentioned this before but so I apologize in advance, but I have
been wondering if the whole civil war thing might have been avoided if
the government had simply bought the slaves at a fair price instead of
pushing to free them without compensation.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:32 AM (Z9EHQ)

Civil War already started when the Emancipation Proclamation was issued, and it only dealt with the slaves in the CSA, not in the Union states.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 12:36 AM (Zd/NW)

465 452 There ya go. I guess CA. gun laws make AR's cheaper... I was just down there today but I'll go down again any time

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:36 AM (XDC0v)

466 I knew that after the divorce from his first heiress wife, he was bumming around sleeping on couches of friends. When he moved on Teresa before John Heinz's body was cold, he went from being the poorest to the richest Senator the minute he said "I Do

Posted by: kbdabear at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (wwsoB)

I hope the Swift Boat Veterans save us from him as SOS. I know that means we're stuck with him in MA but glancing over the more conservative newspaper's website this morning, I would rather have that jerk than Vikki K. Her only claim to fame is she married and rehabilitated Teddy's reputation after that Palm Beach rape by one of his nephews and Uncle Teddy was walking around without his pants that night.

I wish I could make the people in this state wake the hell up and realize that the Kennedy family bought the presidency in 1960 with Daley in Chicago but the electorate is made up of either liberals and low info voters.
We used to have great leaders, now they all suck. I hope the 2016 nominee for POTUS is from MA, we've seen how well anyone from MA has done as POTUS in the last 24 years!

Posted by: CarolT at December 16, 2012 12:37 AM (z4WKX)

467 Holiday flyer: http://tinyurl.com/c46dblx

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:37 AM (XDC0v)

468 But then you have not answered the question of if it is right for one man to claim another as property, leave alone all the other "reasons" that have been given (here's a hint, every single reason comes back to slavery).
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:35 AM (yh0zB)

I agree, I was thinking it is more palatable if someone says "hey here is fmv for your stuff, which also gives you the capital you need to enter the nineteenth century and have a shot at industrializing", than to say, "hey there, we are taking your means of production."

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:38 AM (Z9EHQ)

469 I'd wage your school jacket had no lapel or pocket to put in a signalling device for the queer, er--inquisitive boys!
Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia


Amigo, I'll see your wrestling singe and raise you a jockstrap.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:38 AM (TtXjG)

470 I hope the Swift Boat Veterans save us from him as SOS

He's the best we're gonna get our of Obama. Anything else will be much worse.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:39 AM (G0eua)

471 So wait, when they confiscate the guns they're gonna search every building in the U.S., right??? Or how else would it work?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:40 AM (XDC0v)

472 After all, the men from the Whale's Vagina do not back down so easily!!!!

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:40 AM (TtXjG)

473 So wait, when they confiscate the guns they're gonna search every building in the U.S., right??? Or how else would it work?



They start with the paperwork on file first.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:41 AM (doBIb)

474 I understand. my thought was that the first signs of someone moving to restrict guns in any way would be to increase demand before the restrictions went into effect, even if it was only placing orders to get grandfathered in.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:34 AM

Oh, sure. Recent years have shown that. But when the axe finally falls, afterwards will be a different situation. The restrictions on ownership and buying will likely come first. The move to take what's already out there will follow later. IF they go that way.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 12:42 AM (yBF/9)

475 Page 34 on the holiday flyer: SW AR for $649

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:42 AM (XDC0v)

476 Burgundy, can't you see how I deftly weaved in the Bostonian patois of dropping the "r" in "wager" to prove my allegiance to the working fool, er, man?

You mock me with that reference to my graeco-roman days!

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 12:42 AM (I88Jc)

477 They start with the paperwork on file first.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:41 AM (doBIb)


All I have is a concealed weapons permit. That doesn't prove I actually have a weapon.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:42 AM (yh0zB)

478 Can't wait to find out how opposing Kerry is "racist".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 16, 2012 12:43 AM (fjNx5)

479 Can't wait to find out how opposing Kerry is "racist".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 16, 2012 12:43 AM (fjNx5)

more likely to be deemed speciesist

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:43 AM (Z9EHQ)

480 People spend so much time debating absurdities that they have no time or energy to make progress on stuff they can really make happen

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:43 AM (XDC0v)

481 477 There are 200 MILLION guns in the U.S which aren't on any paperwork.

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:44 AM (XDC0v)

482 I think we have another sausage party.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:45 AM (Z9EHQ)

483 All I have is a concealed weapons permit. That doesn't prove I actually have a weapon.



They'll come after people like me first who bought from a dealer.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:45 AM (doBIb)

484 477 There are 200 MILLION guns in the U.S which aren't on any paperwork.

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:44 AM (XDC0v)


Which, ironically enough, was my point...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:46 AM (yh0zB)

485 450 Capt W. Thanks, that's at least a minor relief (although I'm sorry you had such rotten luck).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at December 16, 2012 12:46 AM (wbeNt)

486 "I think we have another sausage party."

Come now, good sir. Rachel Madd-at-bio always brings the plastic.

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 12:47 AM (I88Jc)

487 EC! I got an ammo shipment today too. 300 rounds of 5.56 and 100 of .40 S&W JHP. From ammunitiondepot dot com. Arrived in about 4 days, decent price but limited selection.

I still need to get a scope and a rail system for my evil black rifle.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:47 AM (Ai+tZ)

488 Can't wait to find out how opposing Kerry is "racist".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 16, 2012 12:43 AM (fjNx5)


... more likely something discriminating against the 'tarded ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 16, 2012 12:47 AM (5B5zZ)

489 484 Yeah GCE I was agreeing with you completely but I just used your number as a placeholder-

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:47 AM (XDC0v)

490 They'll come after people like me first who bought from a dealer.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:45 AM (doBIb)


Which is why I'll buy a couple from a dealer. You know they will come to my house because of the CWP, to not have at least one or two guns for them to seize will just make them look harder. Give the .gov guy what he expects to see right up front and they will quickly go back to surfing internet porn on government time, exactly as it should be.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at December 16, 2012 12:48 AM (yh0zB)

491 nearly as important as laying in a supply of ars is coffee. it has become apparent I am officially addicted to coffee. if the smod ever does hit I am planning on becoming the biggest coffee merchant ever - effin pablo escobar of folgers. also, I intend to break the first rule of drug dealing -I am getting high on my owns supply of folgers even if I have to sniff the stuff.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:49 AM (Z9EHQ)

492 You mock me with that reference to my graeco-roman days!
Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia


It was an accident, I assure you.

Still, a no-holds-barred event would excite the masses, no? I can see us mano-e-mano, locked in a combat grabbing for superiority ... for the children, of course.

What say you, grinning djinnie of MSNBSRCCNN?

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at December 16, 2012 12:49 AM (TtXjG)

493 DC,

I used Luckygunner. 1000 rounds of 5.56 at 40 cents/round delivered in 3 days. Fuckin awesome.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:49 AM (doBIb)

494 EC! I got an ammo shipment today too. 300 rounds of 5.56 and 100 of .40 S&W JHP. From ammunitiondepot dot com. Arrived in about 4 days, decent price but limited selection.

I still need to get a scope and a rail system for my evil black rifle.
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:47 AM (Ai+tZ)

see, you are doing the smart thing. most people I know have way too many guns in too many calibres and not enough ammo.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:50 AM (Z9EHQ)

495 When they start going to houses there will be blood on the front porch all over America. Be realistic. Will.Not.Happen. They could control guns like they've succeeded controlling dope and from the same source. Be realistic people

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:51 AM (XDC0v)

496 479 Can't wait to find out how opposing Kerry is "racist".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia, Pope Alexander VI at December 16, 2012 12:43 AM (fjNx5)

Didn't you read upthread that he used to live in his car?

Why does the right hate the downtrodden?

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:53 AM (sqp6o)

497 Hi ont, is it guys night?

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 12:53 AM (adaoe)

498 EC! I got an ammo shipment today...

Posted by: DC in Towson


Just a thought:
Is that really something you want to be broadcasting?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2012 12:53 AM (TtXjG)

499 folgers?

Posted by: Niles C. at December 16, 2012 12:54 AM (AVfT8)

500 For some reason my computer has gone stupid and forgotten my chapter tag.


Also, I got a smart phone yesterday and I've been playing with it a bit. From everything I have experienced thus far I can't imagine why anyone in their right minds would want to try to use the internet on the damn thing except in extreme situations (IE, I need directions to the nearest ammo store). I got it mostly to keep Youngest Son from tying up my phone talking to his little girly friend (he's getting my old one for Christmas) and to have an E-reader, it looks like it will be capable of that, but I can't say I'm extremely thrilled with the (lack of ) battery life.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 12:54 AM (yh0zB)

501 Hi ont, is it guys night?
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 12:53 AM (adaoe)

not anymore!

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:54 AM (Z9EHQ)

502 Hi ont, is it guys night?



Looks like it. No ettes to sexually harass.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 12:54 AM (doBIb)

503 494 Y5 is correct. Ammo is guaranteed to go up so it's what the frugal buyer focusses on now. I told you folks the same thing Election Night and those who listened SCORED. I got 5k that night and now I'm fully stocked and everyone else is panicking and can't find anything. I'm telling you again. What's the point of getting 100 rounds? Don't you guys ever practice?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:55 AM (XDC0v)

504 498 Is wise

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 12:55 AM (XDC0v)

505 They start with the paperwork on file first.

In theory, ATF is only in possession of 4473's and dealer log books of those dealers that closed up shop, and supposedly NICS doesn't retain info on whoever checks has been run against if they were OK'd.

So, in theory, they'd have to round up a bunch of 4473's and log books from FFL's.

But that's all horse shit. You know the NICS check results are being retained somewhere, and now they got this online 4473 shit.

First they'll start the low hanging fruit - those states and cities that require local gun registration.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:55 AM (G0eua)

506 Burgundy, you domestic-beer quaffer, every postgrad knows that wrestling is harmless. I dare you come on an unstaged, battle-royal free-for-all that is my show!

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 12:56 AM (I88Jc)

507 see, you are doing the smart thing. most people I know have way too many guns in too many calibres and not enough ammo.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:50 AM (Z9EHQ)


I have enough 7.62x54R to equip the average Russian peasant all the way through WW2. Or the above average peasant, giving the Russian's tendency to throw people at a problem until it goes away.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 12:56 AM (yh0zB)

508 I have enough 7.62x54R to equip the average Russian peasant all the way through WW2. Or the above average peasant, giving the Russian's tendency to throw people at a problem until it goes away.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 12:56 AM (yh0zB)

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (Z9EHQ)

509 501 Hi ont, is it guys night? Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 12:53 AM (adaoe) not anymore!
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:54 AM (Z9EHQ)

Sorry, bored wanted to see what ya'll were up too

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (adaoe)

510 448

I have mentioned this before but so I apologize in advance, but I have

been wondering if the whole civil war thing might have been avoided if

the government had simply bought the slaves at a fair price instead of

pushing to free them without compensation.



Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 12:32 AM (Z9EHQ)


===

1860 Census had about 4 million slaves. Auction price about $1000 / ea. So, about $4 billion needed to buy all. (assuming no price increases as supply dropped due to purchases leaving the available market)


Total yearly federal budget at that time -- about 80 million, or about 1/50th the amount needed. So, to take the economic route, taxes would have to be raised, and who would pay them?


In practice, it becomes a political impossibility. Slave owners would be the "beneficiaries" of sham transactions where they received their own taxes back, but the taking still occurred.


Everyone else would be steamed for another reason. Their taxes would be raised to pay slaveholders for behaving in a manner that they either could not afford, or of which they did not approve.


The constitutional process was available, but it was just never going to be politically possible.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (kfC1R)

511 And it's been a month+ since i got my AR and haven't shot it yet. Freakin' holidays.

DPMS AR with quad rail, magpul furniture, 4 PMags, 2 regular mags, flip iron sights and cheap optics and a light for under $800.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (sqp6o)

512 First they'll start the low hanging fruit - those states and cities that require local gun registration.


Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 12:55 AM (G0eua)


Durham NC, for example.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 12:58 AM (yh0zB)

513 If you bought it with a credit card, there's a record. So I don't think telling the horde will put me on some gubmint list.

EC, at palmetto state armory I could get it for .35 per round, but they're backed up and apparently having problems getting orders out.

Lou! Look everybody, a real live girl!

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:59 AM (Ai+tZ)

514 Sorry, bored wanted to see what ya'll were up too

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (adaoe)


You know, the usual. Stompy boots, recipe swaps, gun talk.

DPMS AR with quad rail, magpul furniture, 4 PMags, 2 regular mags, flip iron sights and cheap optics and a light for under $800.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (sqp6o)


Very nice! One day I want an AR, just because.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:00 AM (yh0zB)

515 Durham NC, for example.



Durham county requires registration?!?

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:00 AM (doBIb)

516 Lou! Look everybody, a real live girl!
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:59 AM (Ai+tZ)



Dammit.

(wiping cheeze dust off chin and fingertips.)

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:01 AM (sqp6o)

517 I bought a '95 Chevy (model = he who shall not be named) with 2000 miles on it for $5K off sticker, drove it 300,000 and sold it for $4K about 8 or 9 years later, having replaced only brakes and exhaust as needed, oh and one rear window wiper motor. Of course, I would not buy a government motors car today at gunpoint, but I did have that one incredible experience. Planets must have all been aligned the day they built that one.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 01:01 AM (jts1f)

518 what is new, just checking in


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:02 AM (jfSqj)

519 EC, at palmetto state armory I could get it for .35 per round, but they're backed up and apparently having problems getting orders out.



I cancelled my order at PSA because they were being assholes about communicating with me. Fuckers still charged me a fee for canceling.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:03 AM (doBIb)

520 Burgundy, it brought down the bathhouse, er, house at my club when I said that your lady-love will be your downfall. Hahaha!

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 01:03 AM (I88Jc)

521 Very nice! One day I want an AR, just because.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:00 AM (yh0zB

Perfect reason. And i consider it an Erector set with bonuses.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:03 AM (sqp6o)

522 RWC, where'd you make that purchase? I'm getting a new piece soon, choice is between another glock or another AR, and I was looking hard at DPMS. If I can get one tricked out for under $800, that just decided it.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 01:03 AM (Ai+tZ)

523 Burgundy, you domestic-beer quaffer, every postgrad knows that wrestling is harmless. I dare you come on an unstaged, battle-royal free-for-all that is my show!
Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia


Beer? I'll have you know that I only quaff the finest of Scotch whisky hard alcohol liquor that is restricted in 26 states!

Yes, with alcohol in it!

Compadre, you are tango-ing with the wrong dance partner. So let's agree to disagree... lest it become

The Forbidden Dance

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 16, 2012 01:03 AM (TtXjG)

524 Lou! Look everybody, a real live girl!
Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 12:59 AM (Ai+tZ)

Hi all, ordered our wedding rings today, omg I cant believe I am nervous. We have lived together for 12 years, been together 14, sheesh.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (adaoe)

525 The constitutional process was available, but it was just never going to be politically possible.
Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 12:57 AM (kfC1R)

I agree with everything you said. I do think it is interesting that it seems to be another instance of where well intentioned people were willing to violate some one else's rights - undo the deal - to achieve a good. Hopefully unsurprisingly, I am anti-slavery of any sort, however, since it was part of the deal / Constitution it needed to be undone in fair way; fair in accordance with the deal. If they were serious about getting rid of slavery they should have been willing to pay the price.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (Z9EHQ)

526 but I can't say I'm extremely thrilled with the (lack of ) battery life.

Is it an Android phone? If so there's an app that might help battery life but of course i can't remember the name, search battery in the store and you should find it, the pic for it is a little shield.

Posted by: booger at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (HI6wa)

527 Regarding 517 ... I knew the lore regarding he who had a name like a GM product ... I knew that the ass who runs LGF was persona non grata among the horde ... but was not aware that he held the title of "he who must not be named" ... noted for future reference

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (jts1f)

528 Sorry to hear that, EC. I had nothing but good experience with them. Quick delivery, no shipping charge. I think they are just overwhelmed right now.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 01:05 AM (Ai+tZ)

529 Durham county requires registration?!?

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:00 AM (doBIb)


Yep, for certain guns including handguns.

H. B. 566



CHAPTER 157



AN ACT TO PROVIDE FOR REGISTRATION OF PISTOLS AND SIMILAR FIREARMS BY OWNERS THEREOF IN DURHAM COUNTY.
http://tinyurl.com/chxvvcs

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:05 AM (yh0zB)

530 AN ACT TO PROVIDE FOR REGISTRATION OF PISTOLS AND SIMILAR FIREARMS BY OWNERS THEREOF IN DURHAM COUNTY.
http://tinyurl.com/chxvvcs
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:05 AM (yh0zB)


what city is in this county?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:06 AM (jfSqj)

531 I'm thinking the Feds might want to rethink this court house's security system.

http://tinyurl.com/d82dnzm

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 01:06 AM (G0eua)

532 On the gun note, went shopping today, drove by the little gun store/shooting range, could not believe the cars in the parking lot, had to be 20 which is crazy, this place is tiny.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:06 AM (adaoe)

533 I was away for the Hillary post, but I noticed no one mentioned this, so here it is.
In 1964 John Glenn was running for a Senate nomination. He was immensely popular, and regularly mentioned as a Presidential candidate. He had an altercation with a sliding glass door in a bathroom, fell, got cut, injured his inner ear, and spent a long time recuperating. It ended his campaign at the time. Later, of course, he ran against Metzenbaum again and again, and as things worked out he got into the Senate (even though he'd "never held a real job") in time to be implicated in the Savings and Loan scandal.

He wanted to be VP in1976 and President in 1984. The point is, every time his candidacy for anything came up, that bathroom fall became a major issue again. They let him back into the space program even with his inner ear damage, or whatever it really was, but never onto the top of the ballot. It's a mystery.

Now comes Hillary Clinton, falling down for odd reasons. In the hands of qualified name-callers and insinuators, she'll never be President. Whatever she's covering is worth that to her. Or, maybe she's sure the GOP can't attack her competently, although I have no idea where she'd get that notion.

Anyway I think Glenn's case is a more apt comparison than Ford's supposed clumsiness. In a just world, SNL would be advertising in Variety for her full-time pratfalling impersonator. Go upstairs to the network offices, and you'll find plenty already there.

Posted by: comatus at December 16, 2012 01:07 AM (qaVK+)

534 Yep, for certain guns including handguns



Wow....another reason I'm glad I don't live in that shithole county.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:07 AM (doBIb)

535 Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 01:03 AM (Ai+tZ)

On gunbroker. I think they usually have deals like that since it's more or less a retailer. (but i did have to badger them for the optics because their add was misleading.)

I'm sure i have the email trail at work so i can give you more info on Monday.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:09 AM (sqp6o)

536 Jake,

Durham is in Durham Co, NC.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:09 AM (doBIb)

537 omg I cant believe I am nervous. We have lived together for 12 years, been together 14, sheesh.



Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (adaoe)


Congrats lou. 'Bout time you stopped living in sin. (hope you know I'm just yanking your chain)

booger, yes it's a 'droid. I'll look for the app, but for now I just leave it plugged in whenever I'm at home or in the car. Damn thing is huge though, just carrying it makes it feel like I'm lugging around a flat panel TV.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:09 AM (yh0zB)

538 omg I cant believe I am nervous. We have lived together for 12 years, been together 14, sheesh.



Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (adaoe)

I am sure it is going to be fine. If you want I will give you the best advice I ever received about marriage.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:10 AM (Z9EHQ)

539 Not that gunbroker is a retailer, i meant the people i dealt with are.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (sqp6o)

540 I love how you gun nuts like to call yourselves Christians. Yet you don't worship God above all else, you worship the gun above all else.

In your feeble minds its power to do good is matched by its incapacity to do anything wrong. It cannot kill. Thwarting your god is what kills. If it seems to kill, that is only because your true god’s bottomless appetite for death has not been adequately fed. The answer to problems caused by guns is more guns, millions of guns, guns everywhere, carried openly, carried secretly, in bars, in churches, in offices, in government buildings. Only the lack of guns can be a curse, not their beneficent omnipresence.

The gun is your Moloch.

Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (7yu6O)

541 "Compadre, you are tango-ing with the wrong dance partner. So let's agree to disagree... lest it become

The Forbidden Dance"

Martin Bashir, I'd recognize you anywhere with your velvet-smooth tones of enticement. Stop reminding me about that moment we shared in the copier room during the Winter Solstice Party of '11.

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (I88Jc)

542 "I have been wondering if the whole civil war thing

might have been avoided if the government had simply bought the slaves
at a fair price instead of pushing to free them without compensation."

***********

Where would the slave owners who sold their slaves to the government find
replacement labor? Certainly not from Southern whites who would
consider themselves as replacing negro slaves, especially if they were paid
very little.

So
stoop labor wages (to use the old term) would have to be high enough to
attract new free laborers, white or black (mainly the latter).

That wage would necessarily have to be
higher than the upkeep of wage-free slaves, and the increased
costs would have to be reflected in the selling prices of the cotton and other crops bought by the mills, mostly in the UK.

If cotton from other slave-holding countries/colonies in the New World, as well as places like Egypt, was offered for less, the US plantations would lose in the world marketplace.

Southern plantations would see the offer to buy their slaves as a slow death for their businesses, wealth and influence.

From start to finish, slavery was all about economic advantage.

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (9gW0q)

543 Durham is in Durham Co, NC.
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:09 AM (doBIb)


anyother place in the south have registration?


Did you ever get a deer?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:12 AM (jfSqj)

544 Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (7yu6O)

oh what the hell is this? someone run out of paint to huff?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:12 AM (Z9EHQ)

545 If you're scared to buy guns because of confiscation, don't. More for me.

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:13 AM (XDC0v)

546 Lou: congrats!

RWC, thanks.. Problem is, after shipping and FFL fees it usually is about the same price as the store. But, I'll take any info as to seller gladly.

And with that, I'm out.

Goodnight all.

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 16, 2012 01:13 AM (Ai+tZ)

547 538 omg I cant believe I am nervous. We have lived together for 12 years, been together 14, sheesh.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:04 AM (adaoe)

Sigh...diving back into the Cheetos wit no remorse....


Congrats though! If you've lived together that long there shouldn't be any surprises.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:14 AM (sqp6o)

548 night DC in Towson

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:14 AM (Z9EHQ)

549 John Glenn was from a different era...one where people paid attention to the qualifications of presidential candidates.

Clinton kinda changed all that. Now anything goes. Drugs, infidelity, gross incompetence, pathological liar, thief, traitor, commie, whatever.

None of that matters. I expect we'll see our first convicted serial killer president someday...

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 01:14 AM (G0eua)

550 540 What you don't know about God is a lot. Are you majoring in Douche Studies at your local community college or does it just come naturally?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:14 AM (XDC0v)

551 what city is in this county?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:06 AM (jfSqj)


Durham NC, Jake. Thing is, the shitweasels in the statehouse had a chance to overturn this 1935 law with HB650, which was pretty sweeping legislation, but they chickened out and threw out the repeal of Chapter 157 along with deleting restaurant and parking lot carry. If you are packing in NC you can't take your gun in with you to any place that sells alcohol for consumption on-site (which leaves out most restaurants) and you can't have your gun even locked in your car in the parking lot anywhere it is posted. That means I can't legally drive to work armed because my place of employ is a Disarmed Victim Zone.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:14 AM (yh0zB)

552 oh what the hell is this? someone run out of paint to huff?


We do not acknowledge the full retard trolls.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:15 AM (doBIb)

553 544
Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (7yu6O)



oh what the hell is this? someone run out of paint to huff?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:12 AM (Z9EHQ)

=====
hoping everyone's rights will be eliminated so it can experience free daily cavity searches.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 01:15 AM (kfC1R)

554 We do not acknowledge the full retard trolls.
Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:15 AM (doBIb)

my bad

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:15 AM (Z9EHQ)

555 Jesus said sell your cloak and buy a sword. But what did He know?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:16 AM (XDC0v)

556 The gun is your Moloch.

Our Moloch is puny compared your abortion clinic Moloch

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 01:16 AM (G0eua)

557 From start to finish, slavery was all about economic advantage.
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (9gW0q)

I don't know, slavery as an economic model has some flaws.

one is your work force is really unmotivated


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:16 AM (jfSqj)

558 hoping everyone's rights will be eliminated so it can experience free daily cavity searches.
Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 01:15 AM (kfC1R)

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:16 AM (Z9EHQ)

559 I love how you Big Government nuts like to call yourselves atheists. Yet you worship government above all else.

In your feeble minds its power to do good is matched by its incapacity to do anything wrong. Et fucking cetera.

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 01:17 AM (FcR7P)

560 554 Fuck that watch me serve this little bitch. Your move, cc...

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:17 AM (XDC0v)

561 Did you ever get a deer?





Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:12 AM (jfSqj)


Sadly...no.

The gun is your Moloch.

Posted by: Conservatives want our children murdered at December 16, 2012 01:11 AM (7yu6O)


Enjoy the gulag, comrade.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:17 AM (yh0zB)

562 3287 children murdered by abortion EVERY DAY in America. Liberals got no place calling ANYONE a murderer...

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:18 AM (XDC0v)

563 Militant atheism IS a defacto religion.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 16, 2012 01:18 AM (G0eua)

564 It looks like my wolf hunt won't happen this month.

maybe in January, we'll see

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:19 AM (jfSqj)

565 Enjoy the gulag, comrade.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:17 AM (yh0zB)

heh - that is the funny thing about communism, the shock and horror of the faithful when the machine turns on them. At least our side knows we are on the menu.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:19 AM (Z9EHQ)

566 3287 children murdered by abortion EVERY DAY in America. In case I wasn't clear.

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:19 AM (XDC0v)

567 Holy shit. michelle Obama just flashed onSNL!!!1

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:19 AM (sqp6o)

568 Enjoy the gulag, comrade.

If you're lucky, you get the gulag. If not, you get the wall like I did.

Posted by: Maurice Bishop's ghost at December 16, 2012 01:20 AM (G0eua)

569 At least our side knows we are on the menu.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:19 AM (Z9EHQ)


True, but of course we expect to be dead. "Oh Lord, if this be the day you call me home, please grant my last wish, to be found atop a pile of spent brass surrounded by the bodies of mine enemies..."

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:20 AM (yh0zB)

570 Holy shit. michelle Obama just flashed onSNL!!!1
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:19 AM (sqp6o)

the censors let her flash her schwanz?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:20 AM (Z9EHQ)

571 I am sure it is going to be fine. If you want I will give you the best advice I ever received about marriage.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:10 AM (Z9EHQ)

Absolutely

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:21 AM (adaoe)

572 It pisses me off that Michelle's dick is bigger than mine

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:22 AM (XDC0v)

573 I am sure it is going to be fine. If you want I will give you the best advice I ever received about marriage.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:10 AM (Z9EHQ)



Absolutely

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:21 AM (adaoe)


My wife told me "don't get married, it ruins a man." Of course that doesn't apply to you, but...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:22 AM (yh0zB)

574 Holy shit. michelle Obama just flashed onSNL!!!1

Truly, is there a more serious citizenry than our own?

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 01:22 AM (FcR7P)

575 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:20 AM (Z9EHQ)

Thankfully no. Just trying to be an attention whore so the attention is taken away from the fuck that is fapping to the deaths of children.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:23 AM (sqp6o)

576 192 people shot in Chicago in Nov 2012.

Chicago, it's gun free you know


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:23 AM (jfSqj)

577 Bread and circuses!

Posted by: Maurice Bishop's ghost at December 16, 2012 01:23 AM (G0eua)

578 Whats going on with You Tube?....about half of it does not allow access anymore?

Anybody know if something has changed?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:24 AM (uis79)

579 [L.o.] Damn those Christians in Africa. When will they stop?

On tonight's broadcast we have D'kembe. D'kent-state, how do you feel about guns?

[D'kembe] Um, I my community is being hacked by machetes because they're Christian--

[L.o.] So you're saying that guns keep the world unsafe? Thank you, D'lil kim.


Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCryia in a kilt at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (I88Jc)

580 Chicago, it's gun free you know

Not if you look around each alderman's home. But that's different!

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (FcR7P)

581 Absolutely
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:21 AM (adaoe)

never ever ever never ever discuss divorce. do not threaten it, suggest it, discuss it, argue over it, and if anyone brings it up ignore it and move on - do not respond out of pride and threaten divorce back.

I got it from a guy who was divorced many times. He said once someone rolls it out and puts it on the table it is all over.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (Z9EHQ)

582 GGE,

I just looked up Wake County's handgun rules and one needs a permit to have one there also.

Shit, up here in Roanoke they just do an instant check, when it comes back clean, you walk out with your pistol. Down there, you have to have the permit to even have the gun, and if you do a private sale, you have to make sure the buyer has a permit. That fucking sucks.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (Zd/NW)

583
2001 buick regal. 281,214 miles 20k to 25k per year. Purrs like a kitteh.!

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 16, 2012 01:26 AM (WX65W)

584 Wow....another reason I'm glad I don't live in that shithole county.

Posted by: EC at December 16, 2012 01:07 AM (doBIb)



Just caught this...another NC moron? You would think a few of us could get together sometime...maybe I'll put the flag up again and see who salutes.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:26 AM (yh0zB)

585 Whats going on with You Tube?....about half of it does not allow access anymore?

Anybody know if something has changed?


You've answered your own question by being so specific.

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 01:27 AM (FcR7P)

586 The very people who complain the loudest about police overreach are the same ones that insist only police should have guns

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:27 AM (XDC0v)

587 1997 Ford Taurus, 186,000 miles. We bought it used 10 years ago and it's been a fairly good car. The Check Engine light has been on for 5 years, but it's still going strong.

Posted by: Aud at December 16, 2012 01:27 AM (PGpgl)

588 I just looked up Wake County's handgun rules and one needs a permit to have one there also.


Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (Zd/NW)


Not quite, one must have either a pistol purchase permit OR a concealed weapons permit to buy a handgun. This was the primary reason for me to get my CWP, so I didn't have to ask the sheriff's permission to exercise a Constitutional right. We are working to get that particular piece of Jim Crow legislation abolished as well.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:28 AM (yh0zB)

589 never ever ever never ever discuss divorce. do not threaten it, suggest it, discuss it, argue over it, and if anyone brings it up ignore it and move on - do not respond out of pride and threaten divorce back. I got it from a guy who was divorced many times. He said once someone rolls it out and puts it on the table it is all over.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (Z9EHQ)

Love this, Thanks

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:29 AM (adaoe)

590 welcome may have been a bit too warm for our liberal friend...

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:29 AM (XDC0v)

591 That fucking sucks.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 01:25 AM (Zd/NW)

In Idaho, no NICS background check with a valid CCL.

Just fill out the federal 4473 and pay.

quickest gun purchase I've seen is 8 minutes. in and out the door



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:30 AM (jfSqj)

592 #557

Which is why chattel slavery would not survive the Industrial Revolution in the US. But that would have taken many years to force the issue. Many would have been content to wait if they saw it coming but it was science fiction then.

If malaria had never found its way to North America there would not have been importation of Africans. Once malaria got established in the NA mosquito population the only labor force available that had any resistance were Africans, who had been living with the problem for thousands of years.

Up until then, slavery in NA was largely Indians who'd been enslaved by other Indians and sold to colonists. The Indians had been practicing slavery for millenia with about the same geographic lines as were in place when the Civil War broke out. Southern slavery was a common thing long before any Europeans came to stay.

Posted by: epobirs at December 16, 2012 01:30 AM (kcfmt)

593 Just to clarify...one does not need a permit to OWN, just to BUY. You can have a purchase permit and not necessarily buy a hand gun, but you must have a purchase permit or CWP to buy one even if the seller is out of state (in which case the seller is supposed to retain it for their records, but if they are out of state...), it is another Jim Crow era effort to keep the guns out of the "wrong" hands (wink wink nudge nudge). Wouldn't want them darkies to shoot back at us as we're trying to hang them, dontchaknow...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:32 AM (yh0zB)

594 Truly, is there a more serious citizenry than our own?
Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 01:22 AM (FcR7P)


Anna Wintour is going to be an Ambassador. Why do you think we're not serious? She's a high calibre appointment.

Matt Damon!!!1!! For Energy Secretary.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:32 AM (sqp6o)

595 2000 Saturn SW2, going on 210K miles. I'd trade it in for new something not tied to the UAW tomorrow if I had my debt paid off and a steady job. But until it develops a problem more costly than a good used car I have to stick with it. It's hit me with some costly repairs but always below that let it stay dead threshold.

Posted by: epobirs at December 16, 2012 01:33 AM (kcfmt)

596 Love this, Thanks
Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:29 AM (adaoe)

I am sure you will not need it but I share it with all of the people I like that are getting married. It has worked for me so far.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:34 AM (Z9EHQ)

597 @585

Well....for example if you research columbine or the band T-Rex.....most of the videos will not play.

Is that specific enough?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:34 AM (uis79)

598 When I finally gave my 82 Rampage away it had over 300K on it (200K with the engine I had put in it when I first bought it). Funny thing, the damn thing was always prone to running hot, when I was trying to figure out why it had vacuum issues just before I got rid of it I pulled the head...and found a channel between cylinder 2 and the water jacket. It had been like that for the ten years I drove the little trucklet, no wonder I had to put the V6 minivan radiator in it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:35 AM (yh0zB)

599 shouldn't have thought about it and just picked up Serial Experiments Lain when I had it in my hands yesterday even though $40 is still pricey for 13 episodes (my younger self would kick my ass considering how much I used to spend on anime and films from HK)

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 01:36 AM (tw6Ar)

600 Is that specific enough?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:34 AM (uis79)

I ran a search for columbine and had no problems. some did ask me to sign in because of content. no problems with trex either.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:37 AM (Z9EHQ)

601 T Rex works on youtube, here.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 01:37 AM (yBF/9)

602 Since all I would do would be to search for "American artillery WWII book" online ...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 16, 2012 12:23 AM (bxiXv)


Was hoping for personal recommendations. That's how I picked up "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors", and that was a sombering good read.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 16, 2012 01:37 AM (xHaTb)

603 597 Works fine for me. Do you have 64-bit?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:37 AM (XDC0v)

604 Really.....I wonder what the hell is going on with mine?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:38 AM (uis79)

605 MoPar/Mitsu power!

Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:38 AM (I88Jc)

606 Was hoping for personal recommendations. That's how I picked up "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors", and that was a sombering good read.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 16, 2012 01:37 AM (xHaTb)

now that is a great effin book and a great effin story. probably a better story than book.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:38 AM (Z9EHQ)

607 hi all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (aWt7q)

608 Did you try to play any songs from Electric Warrior Album?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (uis79)

609 597 @585 ... Well....for example if you research columbine or the band T-Rex.....most of the videos will not play. Is that specific enough? Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:34 AM (uis79)

I searched T-Rex on YouTube and tried the top five links, all of which worked fine. You are the third person I have heard make this complaint in the last 24 hours. The other two were on Apples. What platform you running?

I tested T-Rex on a Win7 machine with the Chrome browser. Lots of YouTube is Flash based. Adobe and Apple do not get along, perhaps upgrades to or the other has glitched something.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (jts1f)

610 MoPar/Mitsu power!


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:38 AM (I88Jc)


2.2, no Mitsu in the Omni platform cars. MOPAR or no car, there really isn't much of a difference...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (yh0zB)

611 American artillery? Gotta be "With the Old Breed"

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (XDC0v)

612 Really.....I wonder what the hell is going on with mine?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:38 AM (uis79)

have you recently messed around with your plug-ins or your security settings?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (Z9EHQ)

613 Re: YouTube issue, I am running 64-bit without problems.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 01:40 AM (jts1f)

614 and now that I've said that...the 1.7 may have been Mitsu...but it was crap. More so than the cars it came in.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:40 AM (yh0zB)

615 I'm not sure! I don't know much about computers. I'm using an Apple Laptop!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:40 AM (uis79)

616 Did you try to play any songs from Electric Warrior Album?


Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM


Yep. "Get it On".

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 01:40 AM (yBF/9)

617 Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:30 AM (jfSqj)

Same down here in Jawja. Also, no classes or certification to get a GWL (Georgia Weapons License), just fill out the paperwork at the Probate Court, pay the fee, then Johnny over to the local LEO for fingerprints. In rural counties like mine, you have your GWL in less than a week.

Posted by: Country Singer at December 16, 2012 01:41 AM (svK4p)

618 It's an Apple problem. IE is groovy

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:41 AM (XDC0v)

619 "2.2, no Mitsu in the Omni platform cars."

Allpar citation or gtfo (the special-special edition Omni).

Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:42 AM (I88Jc)

620 hi all
Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 01:39 AM (aWt7q)

"arizona really feels alright"?


or at least the Scorpions thought so in 1983 or so

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:42 AM (jfSqj)

621
Y5, I was just eyeballing spam cans of 7.62x54 tonight on CtD, you never really can have enough.

My 86 Toyota Celica ST has 236k on it, burns a quart of oil a week and goes there and back. I can do any work neededon itand I'll never sell it. The 94Thunderbird has 137k and it just got a new transmission so along with the new brakes and suspension I put in I think its good for another 60k.

Posted by: Gmac at December 16, 2012 01:42 AM (IanLz)

622
Not quite, one must have either a pistol
purchase permit OR a concealed weapons permit to buy a handgun. This was
the primary reason for me to get my CWP, so I didn't have to ask the
sheriff's permission to exercise a Constitutional right. We are working
to get that particular piece of Jim Crow legislation abolished as well.


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:28 AM (yh0zB)

In Idaho, no NICS background check with a valid CCL.



Just fill out the federal 4473 and pay.



quickest gun purchase I've seen is 8 minutes. in and out the door





Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:30 AM (jfSqj)

I looked up Wake's, and it didn't have the CWP part on it, but to have to jump through all those hoops is kind of a bitch.
When I bought mine in Virginia, I was out in about an hour, and that was without a CWP or CCL. That included the background check by the State Police.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 01:44 AM (Zd/NW)

623 Hey, CJ.


Howz U?

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 01:44 AM (kfC1R)

624 Allpar citation or gtfo (the special-special edition Omni).


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:42 AM (I88Jc)


As you wish. In North America the 1.7 was a VW engine, in Europe they came with a variety of Peugeot engines, everything else (including the special-specials) were 2.2 Chrysler engines.
http://www.allpar.com/omni/omni.html

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:45 AM (yh0zB)

625 Happy Bill of Rights Day!

http://politicalhat.com/?p=904

ALL of the Bill of Rights for ALL the people!

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 16, 2012 01:46 AM (sZTYJ)

626 12 Posts of Christmas, Day 3: Trey Parker and Matt Stone's original "Southpark" short, Frosty

http://politicalhat.com/?p=826

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 16, 2012 01:46 AM (sZTYJ)

627 618 It's an Apple problem. IE is groovy. Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 01:41 AM (XDC0v)

I am guessing it is a Adobe problem because some videos work if I understood the reported problem correctly. I would try reinstalling Flash as a first step.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 01:48 AM (jts1f)

628 just fill out the paperwork at the Probate Court, pay the fee, then Johnny over to the local LEO for fingerprints. In rural counties like mine, you have your GWL in less than a week.
Posted by: Country Singer at December 16, 2012 01:41 AM (svK4p

30 to 90 days here after prints, depending

proof of training is very easy, Hunters ed card, DD214 will work.


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:49 AM (jfSqj)

629 Is bcochran still recovering from the pageant?



615 I'm not sure! I don't know much about computers. I'm using an Apple Laptop!
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 16, 2012 01:40 AM (uis79)


Apple and Google are going through a pissing match at the moment. And yes, iPad/Mac are having trouble wit youtube.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 01:49 AM (sqp6o)

630 Wouldn't want them darkies to shoot back at us as we're trying to hang them, dontchaknow...


Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:32 AM (yh0zB)

Yeah, I kinda figured that when you said it was Durham County that had the law, and when I saw that Wake had something similar, I figured out that Rockingham and Caswell counties don't have that law.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 01:49 AM (Zd/NW)

631 Y5, I was just eyeballing spam cans of 7.62x54 tonight on CtD, you never really can have enough.

Posted by: Gmac at December 16, 2012 01:42 AM (IanLz)



True.


I looked up Wake's, and it didn't have the CWP part on it, but to have to jump through all those hoops is kind of a bitch.


Posted by: MrCaniac at December 16, 2012 01:44 AM (Zd/NW)




Yes it is, which is why we (GRNC, if you are a North Carolinian gun owner and not a member you really should be) are working on getting rid of purchase permits. Keep in mind many of the county rules were overturned with HB650 a couple of years ago.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:50 AM (yh0zB)

632 I'm using an Apple Laptop!

I had no problems with T-Rex on a Mac with Safari, however I use the "ClickToFlash" plugin which allows me to skip the Flash version of a video.

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 01:51 AM (FcR7P)

633 GCE, this k-frame dropper salutes your diligence!

Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:52 AM (I88Jc)

634 14 Christmas kitteh will kill you in your sleep on Christmas.

Posted by: fluffy at December 15, 2012 10:00 PM (z9HTb)


I approve of this kitteh.

Posted by: G. Washtington at December 16, 2012 01:52 AM (sZTYJ)

635
Toyota Sienna XLE 2004. $2300 for new AC this summer, $275 for some O2 sensor shit in November, and last week $400 for brakes. The latter was completely my fault. Some hungover SCOAMF lover hit her the morning after the election so she's been in the shop for that this week. Went to pick her up and the seat wouldn't move back up. The body shop has her until they fix that because it worked when I dropped it off.
Next set of tires, she's a trade in.

Posted by: Hazchic at December 16, 2012 01:53 AM (BrORD)

636 180,000 miles on my 1999 Nissan Maxima. And it still looks good and drives just fine so I see no reason to get rid of it. Yeah, I'm hoping to keep it until it has 200,000 miles. I put in an average of 5000 miles a year (I bought the car used 2 years ago, when it had 170,000 miles) so I'll have it for quite a while. I've done the same with every car I've owned - bought a used, but reliable model, and basically driven the thing until I hit 200,000. I take very good care of my cars, but I've found that after 200,000 miles all sorts of things start to go to hell, so it's not worth it past that mark.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 16, 2012 01:54 AM (BStAJ)

637 WEll, looks like Egypt is really fucked now.


How much tax dollars you think Barkey will send over when it burns?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 01:54 AM (jfSqj)

638 hi jc, doing okay tonight
gotta get to bed pretty soon though, got a big football day tomorrow, going to the Cardinals-Lions game

Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 01:55 AM (aWt7q)

639 How much tax dollars you think Barkey will send over when it burns?

How much do you got?

Posted by: Barky McFuckstick at December 16, 2012 01:55 AM (FcR7P)

640 Oops. Correction: GGE.

[wraps self back up in eternal cloak of feigned superiority]



Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:56 AM (I88Jc)

641 Night guys, enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 16, 2012 01:56 AM (adaoe)

642 how is everyone doing tonight

Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 01:57 AM (aWt7q)

643 yeah, my car is creeping up on 200k miles too, it's a 2000 Toyota Rav 4

I really really really want to pay cash for my next car though so I am resisting the urge to trade it in at the moment

Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 01:58 AM (aWt7q)

644 GCE, this k-frame dropper salutes your diligence!


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 01:52 AM (I88Jc)


You know what's funny, I had the trans in and out of the Rampage five times (I put a lot of junkyard 5 speeds in that 4 speed trucklet before finding a good one) and only dropped the K frame on the last one. It really did make things a heck of a lot easier.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 01:58 AM (yh0zB)

645 Y5, I was just eyeballing spam cans of 7.62x54 tonight on CtD, you never really can have enough.

Posted by: Gmac at December 16, 2012 01:42 AM (IanLz)

more is better! ammo is always a commodity so if you ever do have too much someone will make a trade.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:59 AM (Z9EHQ)

646 It likely has nothing to do with the client system. Major portions of YouTube content don't reside on Google-owned servers. This was a huge problem for me a few years ago when I doing work for an event in San Francisco called YouTube Live. They wanted me to set up a bunch of TouchSmarts HP had loaned for the event so that they would only view certain content but seemingly have full access to YouTube. That left out doing a dedicated intranet site for the event. It turned out the allowed content lived on such a wide range of servers that going through the complete list was a nightmare task in the time available.

So, you can have access to YouTube but be unable to reach big chunks of the listed content. If your ISP is having trouble reaching certain locations that can cut off big chunks of YouTube.

Posted by: epobirs at December 16, 2012 02:00 AM (kcfmt)

647 It certainly helps that my kid brother was once a mechanic and has checked out my cars before I bought them. Thanks to him, I've never bought a lemon. It pains me that he's a f'ing Democrat, but we've done each other so many favors over the years, that we have an unspoken agreement - we never, ever talk politics. I didn't say word one to him after Walker's recall election and two days after the JEF was reelected, I spoke to him - and he didn't mention the election either. It's the only way we can continue to be as cordial to each other as we are.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 16, 2012 02:01 AM (BStAJ)

648 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 01:59 AM (Z9EHQ)

Regarding ammo...precisely why i'm geting a .22 next.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:01 AM (sqp6o)

649 how is everyone doing tonight


Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 01:57 AM (aWt7q)

watching the new Berserk and writing the gaming post

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:01 AM (tw6Ar)

650 Regarding ammo...precisely why i'm geting a .22 next.
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:01 AM (sqp6o)


lr?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:03 AM (Z9EHQ)

651 Regarding ammo...precisely why i'm geting a .22 next.
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:01 AM (sqp6o)


what is on the wish list?

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:04 AM (jfSqj)

652 Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:03 AM (Z9EHQ)

Yes.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:06 AM (sqp6o)

653 Public Enemy's "By the Time I Get Back to Arizona"?:

http://youtu.be/zrFOb_f7ubw

Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:06 AM (I88Jc)

654 Dude, that is great

Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 02:09 AM (aWt7q)

655 well I am going to bed, good night

Posted by: chemjeff at December 16, 2012 02:09 AM (aWt7q)

656 night chemjeff

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:10 AM (Z9EHQ)

657 Good evening again.

Not much to do tonight.

Ate some delicious butternut squash which I spiced the ever lovin' hell out of.

Damn, now that's good eatin'!

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:11 AM (4ixH5)

658 651 Regarding ammo...precisely why i'm geting a .22 next.
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:01 AM (sqp6o)


what is on the wish list?
Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:04 AM (jfSqj)


Ruger 10/22. And that is just for the ammo capacity. What i really want is a M-N or 98K.

Would loe a '03 or Garand but they are way overpriced at the moment.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:13 AM (sqp6o)

659 hmm Experiment in Terror is getting the Twilight Time treatment

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:13 AM (tw6Ar)

660 Hey Roberto,



Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:16 AM (kfC1R)

661 Now what does one get for Christmas for a 63 year old woman who keeps insisting there's nothing she needs?

dammit...

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:17 AM (4ixH5)

662 Howdy, JC!

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:17 AM (4ixH5)

663 I'm hitting it once you guys reach The Number

Posted by: t-bird at December 16, 2012 02:17 AM (FcR7P)

664 can't go wrong with a Ruger 10-22.
tons of aftermarket options

I've read, but not confirmed the Israelis use tricked out 10-22's for some urban combat, dogs and street lights and stuff

for the centerfire on the list get all 4 eventually.

I got a feeling gun and ammo prices are not going down any time soon

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (jfSqj)

665 fyi, the last two posts are richard fernandez's site are something you morons would probably enjoy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (Z9EHQ)

666 What the heck, I might as well try.

Posted by: Museisluse at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (SsWgR)

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (4ixH5)

668 661
Now what does one get for Christmas for a 63 year old woman who keeps insisting there's nothing she needs?

dammit...


Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:17 AM (4ixH5)

==
get her addicted to drugs.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (kfC1R)

669 Muse for t3h w1nnnn!!!!!!!

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (4ixH5)

670 642 Hey chemjeff why does putting lemon juice on an apple slice keep it from turning brown?

Posted by: DAve at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (XDC0v)

671 Bwahhahaha!

Posted by: Museisluse at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (SsWgR)

672 Now what does one get for Christmas for a 63 year old woman who keeps insisting there's nothing she needs?

dammit...
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:17 AM (4ixH5)

new revolver

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (jfSqj)

673 317 I'm a few fingers into the Blanton's. Wishingi wasw atc hing somef uckin' hockey.
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2012 11:34 PM (uR3yC)


fuckin'A!

Posted by: Wings Fan at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (jts1f)

674 Kitteh and car today
http://tinyurl.com/brpnhgc

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (hWrM7)

675 Uh oh...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (yh0zB)

676 get her addicted to drugs.


Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (kfC1R)

Think I could get all her prescriptions replaced with a single daily hit of meth?
Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (4ixH5)

677 now I get to remember if I liked Experiment in Terror the one time I've seen it

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (tw6Ar)

678 can't go wrong with a Ruger 10-22.
tons of aftermarket options

I've read, but not confirmed the Israelis use tricked out 10-22's for some urban combat, dogs and street lights and stuff

for the centerfire on the list get all 4 eventually.

I got a feeling gun and ammo prices are not going down any time soon

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (jfSqj)

I have read some chechen's have found it is a useful round for sniping in urban areas.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:20 AM (Z9EHQ)

679 new revolver

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:19 AM (jfSqj)

Mmmmmm, I feel like I would be giving it more to myself.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:21 AM (4ixH5)

680 thunder and lightning...a thunderstorm in December means snow within 10 days, or so the old wives tale goes. So we should be getting it for Christmas, one can hope.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 02:21 AM (yh0zB)

681 A weekly occurring car-thread should become a feature here in this web zone before Ace starts examining the statistics.

Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:21 AM (I88Jc)

682 Insomnia can be fun. Love the baby battling with the cat. We always buy used cars, my son is driving the old 1999 Chrysler town and country, 143k miles. I am not sure how much longer it will last,he is in CA now ANSI don't think the engine likes the ethanol blend.

Posted by: Museisluse at December 16, 2012 02:22 AM (SsWgR)

683 Get her a revolver so instead of 'Granny got run over by a reindeer' it will be 'Granny popped Rudolph.'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:22 AM (hWrM7)

684 Ace starts examining the statistics.


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:21 AM (I88Jc)

bye bye videogame thread when that happens

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:22 AM (tw6Ar)

685 Mmmmmm, I feel like I would be giving it more to myself.
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:21 AM (4ixH5)


I would suggest you could get her the new revolver and then she could give you a new pair of stiletto heels and everything would net-out, however, seeing as you are a moron and amember of the horde n good standing I have a feeling there is a 50/50 chance you will wind up with a revolver and a new pair of shoes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:23 AM (Z9EHQ)

686 A Moron car thread on which vehicle to take to the Apocalypse?

Woody Allen in Sleeper on VW Beetles, "Can't kill the things."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:26 AM (hWrM7)

687 I have read some chechen's have found it is a useful round for sniping in urban areas.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:20 AM (Z9EHQ)


I think I saw something about that also.

a .22 LR with standard velocity ammunition is suprisingly quiet, even without a supressor.

Head shots at 100 yards and under are pretty doable, if the wind is not crazy

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:26 AM (jfSqj)

688 A weekly occurring car-thread should become a feature here in this web zone before Ace starts examining the statistics.


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:21 AM (I88Jc)


You could always go here, too: http://gearsandgridirons.blogspot.com/

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 02:26 AM (yh0zB)

689 Speaking of weekly threads I've kinda thought it would be a neat idea to have a few others to fill space on the weekends.

Weekly or biweekly. Something to keep the content coming on mostly dead weekends.

Weekly/biweekly movie/TV reviews would be kinda neat.

Mary Poppins already posts great Hollyweird stories in the morning news thread, just clip the best ones and slap 'em up. Toss in a couple of reviews from some Morons with some halfway decent writing skills and there ya go.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:27 AM (4ixH5)

690 a .22 LR with standard velocity ammunition is suprisingly quiet, even without a supressor.



Head shots at 100 yards and under are pretty doable, if the wind is not crazy

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:26 AM (jfSqj)


I have a Marlin model 60 that is a tack driver. I want a Marlin 795 for an Appleseed gun.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 02:27 AM (yh0zB)

691 683 Get her a revolver so instead of 'Granny got run over by a reindeer' it will be 'Granny popped Rudolph.'
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:22 AM (hWrM7)


It'll also protect her from zombies.

http://tinyurl.com/c7f7rjc

Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2012 02:28 AM (GULKT)

692 Speaking of movie threads, wonder if the head Ewok has gone to see The Hobbit yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:28 AM (hWrM7)

693 "bye bye videogame thread when that happens"

Rest assured. Will the burgeoning pool of Morons/Moronettes be waxing nostalgic of about their console/PC games or automotive tools?


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:28 AM (I88Jc)

694 A Moron car thread on which vehicle to take to the Apocalypse?

Woody Allen in Sleeper on VW Beetles, "Can't kill the things."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:26 AM (hWrM7)

actually a moron apocalypse / smod survival thread would be more interesting than a gaming thread. It is interesting to think through the process of managing a global disaster and there are enough variables and things to think about that it would have legs and attract a variety of people on a regular basis. Let me know if you want help running one.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:28 AM (Z9EHQ)

695
for the centerfire on the list get all 4 eventually.

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:18 AM (jfSqj)

Absolutely. Kind of felt like an ass reading my discretion between them.

Hell, buy them all! 2-4 hundred a piece, buy them up!

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:28 AM (sqp6o)

696 seeing as you are a moron and amember of the horde n
good standing I have a feeling there is a 50/50 chance you will wind up
with a revolver and a new pair of shoes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:23 AM (Z9EHQ)

Ever see Sin City?
The bit with the gun toting hookers?
That would totally be me.
But with a saggy ass.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:29 AM (4ixH5)

697 Weekly/biweekly movie/TV reviews would be kinda neat.


Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:27 AM (4ixH5)

it will just end up with people spamming about how they are shut ins who won't do anything with watching it

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:29 AM (tw6Ar)

698 Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:29 AM (4ixH5)

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:30 AM (Z9EHQ)

699 we could also have a thread of accidental tranny hook ups while traveling in the pacific, southern europe, and caribbean.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:32 AM (Z9EHQ)

700 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:28 AM (hWrM7

He's seven pages into the first half hour.


Went this morning. Liked it for the most part but absolutely hated the mountain troll camp, the dinner at Bilbos, and the Goblin King.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:32 AM (sqp6o)

701 FDA Guidelines on the use of Potassium Iodide.
http://tinyurl.com/4a3qvhh

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:33 AM (hWrM7)

702
Jumping in....
(stares at keyboard for 2 mins thinking why the hell did I get stuck in Calibonya when I could have been long gone in 2006...)

got nothing,

Jumping out...

Posted by: Richard at December 16, 2012 02:33 AM (98kcW)

703 it will just end up with people spamming about how they are shut ins who won't do anything with watching it


Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:29 AM (tw6Ar)

So we'll need to make a sort of hybrid thread. The biweekly movie/tv/survivalist thread.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:34 AM (4ixH5)

704 The dwarves who came to dinner and the Indiana Jones and Temple of Doom trolly ride in the lair of the Goblin King were far too long. The trolls were trolls so eh.

Mountain troll, "Everything tastes like chicken, except the chicken."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:35 AM (hWrM7)

705 we could also have a thread of accidental tranny hook ups while traveling in the pacific, southern europe, and caribbean.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:32 AM (Z9EHQ)

If you screw a hot post-op tranny and you don't know she's a he was the encounter really all that gay?

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:36 AM (4ixH5)

706 I'm not seeing The Hobbit until Tuesday.

Did anyone see it in 3D?

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:36 AM (4ixH5)

707 I have to go to visit the men's room but I don't want to get up.

Wondering if this empty empty 34 ounce bottle will suffice.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:37 AM (4ixH5)

708 Mmmmmm, better not chance it.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:38 AM (4ixH5)

709 So we'll need to make a sort of hybrid thread. The biweekly movie/tv/survivalist thread.


Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:34 AM (4ixH5)

then you just get people posting about how this isn't conservative enough (ie Chuck and Justified threads)

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:38 AM (tw6Ar)

710 Did anyone see it in 3D?


Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:36 AM (4ixH5)

yeah, it's a subtle 3D but it worked (looks better in 48fps)

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:38 AM (tw6Ar)

711 Went this morning. Liked it for the most part but absolutely hated the mountain troll camp, the dinner at Bilbos, and the Goblin King. Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:32 AM (sqp6o)

I agree the Goblin King was the biggest miss. The troll camp and the dinner did not bother me so much. Erebor visuals were stunning. Looking forward to Smaug.

Posted by: Wings Fan at December 16, 2012 02:39 AM (jts1f)

712 Just when you though they couldn't get any lower:

Connecticut school shooting: Westboro Baptist Church planning to picket

They are quoted as saying: "Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment"

http://exm.nr/WcETLr

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 16, 2012 02:39 AM (sZTYJ)

713 There is one show in ID about a guy who gets the seven year itch. Loses his job and all but keeps scratching the itch. Wife finally finds out and tries to cut him off. So husband decides to kill wife and takes family to Mexico to reconcile. His itch, who is a Mexican national, follows. While he has the kids out of the house, his mistress goes and kills the wife.

The kicker of the story is, the mistress used to be a guy. But had all the operations and knew how to be a killer in heels. So fooled everyone. Husband and post-op mistress are serving long prison sentences.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:40 AM (hWrM7)

714 I definitely recommend the 3D HFR (48fps). The 3D provides depth, not crap in your face antics.

Posted by: Wings Fan at December 16, 2012 02:40 AM (jts1f)

715 I believe it only matters if you find out, or at least if you find out before you are finished. It is not ok if you are a minute from completing the transaction and you find a handful of twigs and berries to complete the transaction. "dude it was only another minute" is not an acceptable excuse. only proper course in that instance is stop, puke, run away screaming and swearing and never tell anyone.

if you are not sure if you had one or not you need to keep drinking until you blackout.

I hope no one lets their children read this.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:40 AM (Z9EHQ)

716 TPH, oh goody. WBC really knows how to keep their name in the spotlight. I predict things will end badly for the losers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:42 AM (hWrM7)

717 night y'all




Posted by: Jake in ID at December 16, 2012 02:43 AM (jfSqj)

718 Husband and post-op mistress are serving long prison sentences.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:40 AM (hWrM7)

same facility?

being a post op tranny in a male prison would either be great or awful. no middle ground.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:43 AM (Z9EHQ)

719 night Jake in ID

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:43 AM (Z9EHQ)

720 "You could always go here, too:"

I will certainly not! Any man who could value a life beyond all the happiness a Roadrunner or Demon could bring has nothing to speak to me.

Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:43 AM (I88Jc)

721 Y5, IIRC the mistress got tossed into a Mexican prison. Hubby I think is in a US prison.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:44 AM (hWrM7)

722 Cya Jake

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:44 AM (hWrM7)

723 (looks better in 48fps)


Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:38 AM (tw6Ar)

The 3D provides depth, not crap in your face antics.

Posted by: Wings Fan at December 16, 2012 02:40 AM (jts1f)

Kewl.
48FPS is only showing in a handful of theaters, no? Pretty sure my local theater doesn't have it.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:45 AM (4ixH5)

724 Good night, Jake!

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:45 AM (4ixH5)

725 Y5, IIRC the mistress got tossed into a Mexican prison. Hubby I think is in a US prison.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:44 AM (hWrM7)

ooh, mexican prison is not good for anyone.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 02:45 AM (Z9EHQ)

726
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:45 AM (4ixH5)

http://tinyurl.com/chgqpsh

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:47 AM (tw6Ar)

727 Re: WBC - I hate Illinois Nazis

and other loud mouthed evil douche bags

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 02:48 AM (jts1f)

728 hmm Doomsday Book on blu-ray for $12.99 at Amazon

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (tw6Ar)

729 So yeah Y5 justice was really served in that case.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (hWrM7)

730 been thinking about it half the night, and it turns out I am fan of hot Carla Gugino pix.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (kfC1R)

731
WA/PO opinion. To solve our debt crisis lets just sell Alaska! Instead of using the resources that will generate revenue, just do a storage wars scenario that will help no one except the buyer. Hell, why not throw in the Palin family as a rider on the sale!/sarc

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 16, 2012 02:50 AM (WX65W)

732 Hank Williams Jr - A Country Boy Can Survive
http://youtu.be/I4s0nzsU1Wg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:50 AM (hWrM7)

733 http://tinyurl.com/chgqpsh


Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:47 AM (tw6Ar)

Thank you very much, Dude!
Ohhhhhh, there's a FPS screen in Mission!

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:52 AM (4ixH5)

734
Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (kfC1R)

her in Sin City....yum

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 02:52 AM (tw6Ar)

735 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:35 AM (hWrM7)

See, the 'tastes like chicken' line and the snot jokes is what i couldn't stand. It's like Lucas took over. And can i rant for a second...Holy shit either Tolkien or the screenwriters are lazy as hell.

Impossible odds...send in the Eagles..

Imposible odds....send in the Eants

impossible odds...send in the Eagles (again)

Impossible odds....ehhh, F it...just send in an undead army that can't be stopped.

I love the LotR movies, but think they're going down the wrong path.

(but i'm learning that I am much more of a fantasy dork than previously thought.)

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:52 AM (sqp6o)

736 been thinking about it half the night, and it turns out I am fan of hot Carla Gugino pix.


Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (kfC1R)

*Thumbs WAY up*

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:53 AM (4ixH5)

737 RWC rant away.

The eagles saving them in the nick of time again was too much Deus ex Machina. You are more discerning on what makes a good story than most.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 02:55 AM (hWrM7)

738 Dammit, I can't play my seasonal music lest I rouse suspicion beyond the usual for at least a week.

Crosby and Bowie's "The Little Drummer Boy":

http://youtu.be/DiXjbI3kRus


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:58 AM (I88Jc)

739 Connecticut school shooting: Westboro Baptist Church planning to picket



They are quoted as saying: "Westboro will picket Sandy Hook
Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in
executing his judgment"



http://exm.nr/WcETLr

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 16, 2012 02:39 AM (sZTYJ)



scum sucking bottom feeding shitbags.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 02:59 AM (yh0zB)

740 To sum up my opinion on the below: ಠ_ಠ

Monica Lewinsky set to reveal Bill Clinton's sex secrets in tell-all

http://bit.ly/WcJ2Pu

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 16, 2012 02:59 AM (sZTYJ)

741 Life is getting back to normal. MSNBC is glorifying the thug/prison life. Again.!

Posted by: t-dubyah-d at December 16, 2012 02:59 AM (WX65W)

742 Posted by: Wings Fan at December 16, 2012 02:39 AM (jts1f)

I didn't like those scenes because of the song and dance and fart jokes (snot part.)

Or are they trying to appeal to the G rated crowd?

If so, that's fine. My buddies 5 year old daughter was a bit scared of Smeagle...ya know, Smeagle from Harry Potter.


The expression you have on your face probably looks like her older sisters face when she was saying it.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:00 AM (sqp6o)

743 The nick of time thing is overdone in all kinds of literature and movies etc. Hardly unique to Tolkien. The books tie the eagles in better than the movies which skip over the 'lore' behind them regarding Gwahir the Windlord and so forth.

Now that is some freaking geekery talking.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:00 AM (jts1f)

744 Ray Stevens - Nightmare Before Christmas.
http://youtu.be/3Ps-bUBagNE

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:02 AM (hWrM7)

745 Posted by: Wings Fan at December 16, 2012 02:39 AM (jts1f)

Helluva palate cleanser.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:04 AM (sqp6o)

746 Grumpy, with three movies to play with, would think they could squeeze in that lore and fewer panorama shots.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:04 AM (hWrM7)

747
Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 02:52 AM (sqp6o)
so in other words, you want them to change Tolkien's stories more than they already did




Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:00 AM (sqp6o)

Though it's played up a little more than I remember in the movie, The Hobbit is a funny book

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:04 AM (tw6Ar)

748 I will certainly not! Any man who could value a life
beyond all the happiness a Roadrunner or Demon could bring has nothing
to speak to me.


Posted by: Sprockets before Dieter danced at December 16, 2012 02:43 AM (I88Jc)



I wanted a brand new Challenger (what can I say, I must have had a grudge against myself http://tinyurl.com/crj793m ) but they never made a convertible like they were supposed to, so instead I got a brand new 5.0 Mustang convertible. I'm not disappointed.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:06 AM (yh0zB)

749 Jackson 5's "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus":

http://youtu.be/lyNOZWZzTeE

Posted by: Bah Humbug at December 16, 2012 03:07 AM (I88Jc)

750 Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:00 AM (sqp6o)

Yeah, I can do without the snot in the troll scene in the Hobbit and Hogwarts for that matter and the shit humor on South Park 'stains' an otherwise bitingly sarcastic and hilarious commentary on the modern world.

Smeagle/Gollum was intense. My older son, now 15 was terrified by the original Gollum entrance in LOTR with the glowing eyes in the cave.

On one hand, the Hobbit in particular is a Child's tale, but the ability of modern graphics may be more vivid than many kids imaginations.

Those parents trying to extend innocence may want to hold off on young ones seeing this movie. For my part, I think innocence is a luxury kids today can no longer afford. I do not shield them from anything, I just make sure they have a solid moral and philosophical framework from which to view them.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:08 AM (jts1f)

751 Howdy, all.



The BH had friends over for making candy all day today, so I've been hiding out. It was raining, as well, so it really wasn't conducive to anything.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2012 03:08 AM (kaalw)

752 736
been thinking about it half the night, and it turns out I am fan of hot Carla Gugino pix.




Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (kfC1R)

*Thumbs WAY up*


Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 02:53 AM (4ixH5)


===No, really, don't try to talk me out of it. I'm serial this time.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 03:09 AM (kfC1R)

753 it turns out I am fan of hot Carla Gugino pix.


Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 02:49 AM (kfC1R)



I approve of this message.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:09 AM (yh0zB)

754 749
Jackson 5's "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus":

http://youtu.be/lyNOZWZzTeE


Posted by: Bah Humbug at December 16, 2012 03:07 AM (I88Jc)

===
based on what we've heard about the Jacksons there is a pretty good chance they saw more than that.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 03:10 AM (kfC1R)

755 746 Grumpy, with three movies to play with, would think they could squeeze in that lore and fewer panorama shots. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:04 AM (hWrM7)

I would take both but I am one of those few people who actually pay for the 20 hour version of the movie that will never be made.

Just to play devil's advocate, as I recall the books, they were filled with descriptions of terrain as they journeyed through Middle Earth.

Make me choose lore or panoramas, I would take the lore.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:11 AM (jts1f)

756 Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:04 AM (tw6Ar)


The humor in the book is what i remember, so no, don't want them to change it too much.

But i do want them to make changes to it that I feel are acceptable.

And yes, I am still pissed that my parents didn't get me the leather interior instead ofmcloth in my BMW for my 14th birthday,...why do you ask?

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:12 AM (sqp6o)

757
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:11 AM (jts1f)

though still condensed, I thought the extended editions did a pretty good job in telling Lord of the Rings

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:13 AM (tw6Ar)

758 Grumpy that is scary to think about.

"So dude what did you do this weekend?"

"We watched all the LotR and Hobbit movies back to back. Suzy got septicemia from sitting so long. And Jack had to have a leg amputated. But it was awesome."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:15 AM (hWrM7)

759 hot Carla Gugino pics...yum...



not really NSFW http://tinyurl.com/ct3o88f

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:15 AM (yh0zB)

760 Those parents trying to extend innocence may want to
hold off on young ones seeing this movie. For my part, I think
innocence is a luxury kids today can no longer afford. I do not shield
them from anything, I just make sure they have a solid moral and
philosophical framework from which to view them.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:08 AM (jts1f)

eh, don't think it hampers a kid's innocence as it's good high fantasy. If it was S and S, then you would be right

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:16 AM (tw6Ar)

761 Cthulhu, so did you make an extra special voodoo candies of your visitors then while hiding out?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:16 AM (hWrM7)

762 though still condensed, I thought the extended editions did a pretty good job in telling Lord of the Rings. Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:13 AM (tw6Ar)

I thought so too. With few exceptions the casting was excellent. The think the overall quest was respected. The Ents were better than I expected. Bombadil being cut completely was disappointing but I can understand why.

I think Jackson had his way with all the books but was overall respectful to the world created by JRR.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:17 AM (jts1f)

763 based on what we've heard about the Jacksons there is a pretty good chance they saw more than that.


Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 03:10 AM (kfC1R)

Now presenting the lost Jackson 5 classic, I Saw Michael Kissing Santa Claus.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 03:18 AM (4ixH5)

764 Hail, Cthulhu!

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 03:19 AM (4ixH5)

765
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:17 AM (jts1f)

only thing that I wished were in the EE versions was the damn poetry.

But having a couple of songs in The Hobbit was very nice though

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:19 AM (tw6Ar)

766 GGE, or perhaps all the Morons and their favourite rides could gather sometime in the spring or perhaps in October for Cruising the Coast.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:21 AM (hWrM7)

767 sweet, $40 for the collector's edition of Game of Thrones

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:21 AM (tw6Ar)

768 Now presenting the lost Jackson 5 classic, I Saw Michael Kissing Santa Claus.
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2012 03:18 AM (4ixH5)

around their house it was less santa clause and more tranny clause.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:22 AM (Z9EHQ)

769 Surprised no one has decided to make an HBO mini-series out of George RR Martin's Wildcard series yet. All the digs at Quayle you know.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:22 AM (hWrM7)

770 Oh hi Anna! Just the 'ette I'm looking for.

Any pointers for what to read to learn more about US artillery in WWII?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at December 16, 2012 03:22 AM (xHaTb)

771 Just a thought on Boehner caving on the tax hikes: If we know that Obama will necissarily reject any GOP proposal because he wants to go off the cliff, then proposals that the GOP makes that involve caving can be used by the GOP. Obama can't claim that the GOP drove the country off the cliff to protect "millionaires" if the GOP explicitly said they are OK with caving in to Obama.

I don't think it'll work, but perhaps that is the gambit they are trying to play?

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 16, 2012 03:23 AM (sZTYJ)

772 Those parents trying to extend innocence may want to hold off on young ones seeing this movie. For my part, I think innocence is a luxury kids today can no longer afford. I do not shield them from anything, I just make sure they have a solid moral and philosophical framework from which to view them.
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:08 AM (jts1f)

It was pretty good that the 13 year old daughter (not my daughter, but i consider her so) sitting next to me was grumbling about Bilbo not taking the threat (Gollum) out while he could.

Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:28 AM (sqp6o)

773 Hell yeah, the Lightbringer wants to go over the cliff. Decimating the military is very high on his agenda.

He will still blame the GOP and the MSM will drive the message constantly and the vapid insipid culture of America will lap it up.

Things are going to have to get far worse than today before it penetrates the decadent not to mention the FSA.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:29 AM (jts1f)

774 Carla Gugino: A Woman We Love

http://tinyurl.com/dykmzru

It's an interesting article, too, once you get done looking at the pictures.

You're welcome.

Posted by: rickl at December 16, 2012 03:29 AM (sdi6R)

775 This isn't in the library but it looks like it will fit your need. An overview of US field artillery in WWII by Steve Zaloga.
http://tinyurl.com/cgk288y

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:30 AM (hWrM7)

776 so they are playing bikini hockey on rollerblades? I am not so sure repeatedly wiping out in a bikini on concrete is going to further their careers. most modeling gigs require skin.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:31 AM (Z9EHQ)

777 Y5, zombie bikini field hockey... skin optional.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:32 AM (hWrM7)

778 zombie bikini field hockey... skin optional.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:32 AM

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:33 AM (Z9EHQ)

779 It was pretty good that the 13 year old daughter (not my daughter, but i consider her so) sitting next to me was grumbling about Bilbo not taking the threat (Gollum) out while he could. Posted by: RWC at December 16, 2012 03:28 AM (sqp6o)

Gandalf said, "Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends."

He also said, “What a pity that Bilbo did not stab that vile creature, when he had a chance!' Pity? It was Pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy: not to strike without need. And he has been well rewarded, Frodo. Be sure that he took so little hurt from the evil, and escaped in the end, because he began his ownership of the Ring so. With Pity.”

Me? I am not that good a person. I would have whacked him for sure!

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:33 AM (jts1f)

780 10,000,000 million cable channels and not a single thing on.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:33 AM (Z9EHQ)

781 Heard that, I got Les Stroud reruns in the background for lack of anything else.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:34 AM (jts1f)

782 so do most morons still use dial up connections or is everything really this slow this evening?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:35 AM (Z9EHQ)

783
780 10,000,000 million cable channels and not a single thing on.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:33 AM (Z9EHQ)


That's why I've got netflix on.

Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2012 03:35 AM (GULKT)

784 Aw, eff it.

Mario Lanza's "O Come All Ye Faithful":

http://youtu.be/cDnfKueIMJM

Posted by: derit at December 16, 2012 03:35 AM (I88Jc)

785 Got ID channel on, women killing their children. Been meaning to watch Battle Fairy Yukikaze again but so far not managed to.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:36 AM (hWrM7)

786 That's why I've got netflix on.
Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2012 03:35 AM (GULKT)

hm had not thought of that. not sure what I would watch.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:36 AM (Z9EHQ)

787 Or watch a lot of anime on www.crunchyroll.com

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:37 AM (hWrM7)

788 Vanessa Williams' "Do you hear what I hear?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTzDw10nDYI

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:39 AM (jts1f)

789 hm had not thought of that. not sure what I would watch.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 03:36 AM (Z9EHQ)


Well I'm watching one of John Pinette's Comedy specials. He's a funny fat guy, as opposed to someone like Ralphie May who is an annoying fat fuck.

Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2012 03:39 AM (GULKT)

790 tempted to splurge and buy myself a new belt before Christmas

Posted by: The Dude at December 16, 2012 03:40 AM (tw6Ar)

791 Netflix, great idea ...

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:41 AM (jts1f)

792 gotta go kids. CYA.

Posted by: jc, whose dog unexpectely ate his homework so he can't testify either at December 16, 2012 03:43 AM (kfC1R)

793 GGE, or perhaps all the Morons and their favourite
rides could gather sometime in the spring or perhaps in October for
Cruising the Coast.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:21 AM (hWrM7)


Gulf Coast? That sounds like a great idea! We could converge on Pensacola FL and go to Biloxi.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:45 AM (yh0zB)

794 Ray Conniff Singers "Twelve Days of Christmas" 1962
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bzHBUKLHfs

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:47 AM (jts1f)

795 This is not good. Starting to get sleepy but must stay awake so I can sleep in the morning so I can work all night tonight.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:49 AM (yh0zB)

796 Amy Grant's "Winter Wonderland"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBoRfpFUgSk

OK, that's enough for one night. I got to pace myself. Still a couple weeks of this holiday cheer thing to get through.

Merry Christmas and to all a Good Night!

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:51 AM (jts1f)

797 Ghost in the Shell AMV: Short skirt/Long Jacket by Cake
http://youtu.be/xwVNhjOz1fw

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:52 AM (hWrM7)

798 I have a 2001 Ford Escape, it just flopped 100k miles. Still runs like a champ. I love it. Lots of power for the size of the car. I have not been particularly religious about changing oil, just the usual, maybe every 5 to 7k miles. Keep the tires rotated. Check the fluids. Had the original spark plugs until about 75k miles. I dunno, the thing is paid for, I like it. I'm keeping it.

Oh, one thing I bought was a data reader. This is the thing that you plug in to the connector under the steering wheel when your engine (or other warning) light comes on. It tells you what is the problem. And most importantly, it turns the fucking warning light off. Costs about $35, well worth it. This is good thing to have since about two thirds of the time the warning light tells you to bring it in to the dealer so they can charge you $200 to turn the warning light off. In other words, it is all bullshit and an income generator for the dealer.

Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2012 03:53 AM (wo54F)

799 GGE, night shift? Start at P-cola and tour the aviation museum?

Cya Grumpy.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:55 AM (hWrM7)

800 My Subaru needs an O2 sensor. The sensor itself isn't bad, the heater circuit in the sensor is bad.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:55 AM (yh0zB)

801 Anna, yep, 12 hr shifts starting at 7PM, three this week and four next. Aviation museum sounds like a good place, never been there, I did my schools when they were still at NAS Memphis.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:56 AM (yh0zB)

802 797 Ghost in the Shell AMV: Short skirt/Long Jacket by Cake http://youtu.be/xwVNhjOz1fw Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:52 AM (hWrM7)

You are into some interesting shit. I bet you are a riot to party with. And now, good night for real.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:58 AM (jts1f)

803 GGE, a picture from the museum I took back in 2010
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/06/midway-to-victory.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:58 AM (hWrM7)

804 "I dunno, the thing is paid for, I like it. I'm keeping it."

My MoPar righteousness can ignore easy K-car bashing because of all the Chevy Citations and Ford Escorts that fell by the wayside while Reliants and Ares K still roamed.

Posted by: derit at December 16, 2012 04:01 AM (I88Jc)

805 This isn't in the library but it looks like it will fit your need. An overview of US field artillery in WWII by Steve Zaloga.http://tinyurl.com/cgk288y

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:30 AM


Zaloga's stuff is pretty good. Got a few of his.

Posted by: otho at December 16, 2012 04:01 AM (yBF/9)

806 Midway, the turning point of the war. Hard battles still ahead, but the Japanese advance had been stopped and their retreat begun. Nice pic Anna.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:05 AM (yh0zB)

807 797 Ghost in the Shell AMV: Short skirt/Long Jacket by Cake http://youtu.be/xwVNhjOz1fw Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:52 AM (hWrM7)

You are into some interesting shit. I bet you are a riot to party with. And now, good night for real.
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at December 16, 2012 03:58 AM (jts1f)

good video but this is a "better" interpretation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8cKKxOv8Bc

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 04:06 AM (Z9EHQ)

808 761
Cthulhu, so did you make an extra special voodoo candies of your visitors then while hiding out?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 03:16 AM (hWrM7)


Sorry for the delay in the reply, but the BH left the place a bit of a mess and I noticed we were getting ants.

No, no special voodoo candies. They were all using the kitchen anyway.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 16, 2012 04:06 AM (kaalw)

809 there is a strong possibility the girl in the video is to stupid to eff but hey.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 04:08 AM (Z9EHQ)

810 I did my schools when they were still at NAS Memphis.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 03:56 AM (yh0zB)

That's where I went to school, 82-83.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:09 AM (3Y7RV)

811 Thanks GGE, the P-40 was recovered from Russia and restored. The green wing with the rising sun is a George fighter. The dive bomber behind the Dauntless is a Vought SB2U Vindicator or as they were called at Midway Wind Indicators.

Geez Y5, the Air Force gets little respect as is...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:09 AM (hWrM7)

812 especially important in the video is the credits.

pay attention to the responsibilities of leslie rehm.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 16, 2012 04:09 AM (Z9EHQ)

813 while Reliants and Ares K still roamed.


Posted by: derit at December 16, 2012 04:01 AM (I88Jc)


My Aries was...adequate. It died a horrible death by Jeep but was still drivable when the insurance man gave me more for it than I had into it, including the purchase price and all the repairs I had made in the 2 years I owned it.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:13 AM (yh0zB)

814 That's where I went to school, 82-83.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:09 AM (3Y7RV)



85/86, I graduated AFTA and checked out the day the space shuttle exploded (the first one). Yeah, I was a push button, but I did ace my second class exam.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:16 AM (yh0zB)

815 What Hannukah has to say about modern America. A beautiful message, and one not really compatible with my own view of LiB... But compelling nonetheless.

Link in my sig.

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 16, 2012 04:17 AM (I2LwF)

816 http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12d/chanukah_2012/index.html

Posted by: Truman North (D) at December 16, 2012 04:18 AM (I2LwF)

817 GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:16 AM (yh0zB)

I was an AT. If I remember, they had a great E-club. Memphis was so much fun. Silky sullivans, the antenna club. Some of the best days of my life. Too much fun.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:19 AM (3Y7RV)

818 GGE this is how close I came to meeting Neil Armstrong and Gene Cernan
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/05/memorial-day.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:21 AM (hWrM7)

819 Yep, I was an AT myself, 20 years worth. Oh hell, Sullivans, yeah that's a name I haven't heard for a while. Brass Rail is another, and there was some skanky dive down on the main drag too, can't remember the name of the place but IIRC it was in a blue-ish building. Good times, man, good times...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:22 AM (yh0zB)

820 That's cool Anna. Armstrong was an interesting character, a geek's geek. Above all Armstrong was an engineer.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:24 AM (yh0zB)

821 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:21 AM (hWrM7)


Gene is my Neighbor.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:25 AM (3Y7RV)

822 "My Aries was...adequate."

It was never meant to rival an Imperial (pre-Dynasty/AP body, of course).

Were it not aimed at giving the impression of a contemporary car (hey,
that show "Hunter" would be a great showcase!), like the VW
Beetle, it could have become more iconic.

Posted by: derit at December 16, 2012 04:25 AM (I88Jc)

823 OSP, fine rub it in!!!! Picked up a hardcover copy of Cernan's book 'Last Man On the Moon' at the museum gift shot autographed by him. Mere $75. Worth it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:28 AM (hWrM7)

824 Gene is my Neighbor.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:25 AM (3Y7RV)



That's awesome. I think he would be an interesting fellow to have a beer with.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:29 AM (yh0zB)

825 OSP, fine rub it in!!!! Picked up a hardcover copy of Cernan's book 'Last Man On the Moon' at the museum gift shot autographed by him. Mere $75. Worth it.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:28 AM (hWrM7)


He travels a lot. When I do see him it's just a wave. He's very private. Drives a little cranberry colored Mercedes with Apollo licence plates.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:30 AM (3Y7RV)

826 That's awesome. I think he would be an interesting fellow to have a beer with.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:29 AM (yh0zB)

We aren't drinkin buddies. Like I said, he's real private.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:31 AM (3Y7RV)

827 I think most of the Apollo Moon astronauts are real private. Except Buzz Aldrin, him you just want to slam in a capsule and leave him there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:32 AM (hWrM7)

828 Well, I think I'm gonna try and get some sleep. G'night.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:34 AM (3Y7RV)

829 We aren't drinkin buddies. Like I said, he's real private.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 04:31 AM (3Y7RV)


Oh, I got that. I just think it would be interesting is all.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:35 AM (yh0zB)

830 Alan Bean paintings are a bit pricey
http://www.alanbean.com/available_originals.cfm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:37 AM (hWrM7)

831 Yeah I am out of here. Night all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 16, 2012 04:42 AM (hWrM7)

832 Wow, yeah I guess they are a bit pricy. Kinda cool, having art painted by one of the astronauts though.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:43 AM (yh0zB)

833 was it something I said?

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:43 AM (yh0zB)

834 No point in hanging around then I guess. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at December 16, 2012 04:45 AM (yh0zB)

835 GGE, or perhaps all the Morons and their favourite

rides could gather sometime in the spring or perhaps in October for

Cruising the Coast.

Lovely idea -- I may even be able to help set up some hotel rooms. They get a little thin during tha Cruise. It's kinda a big deal around here.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 16, 2012 04:46 AM (ccXZP)

836 2002 Mazda b3000, aka Ford Ranger: 460k

Posted by: bill-o at December 16, 2012 04:51 AM (AWwDY)

837 .

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka 3 tooth) at December 16, 2012 05:57 AM (3E2th)

838 1996 Volvo 850 275,000
last year, new struts, shocks, brakes. All new EGR and water hose rubber under the hood. New leather on the front seats and headliner. Cost $3500
You can't buy a car like this anymore for under $36000

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 16, 2012 06:33 AM (BAnPT)

839 Mornin 'rons. Insomnia. I hate it.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 06:47 AM (z/wx3)

840 Heh. Heya infidel. Might have insomnia too if I don't get the whole terror of the shooting/lib jumping on gun control thing out of my head.

Re: car...
Have a 2001 Chevy Silverado, 166,000+ miles. Had a few things wear out (power steering pump, rear engine seal, pulley), but she has been an absolute tank other than parts wearing out that you would expect. Driven her as far as Texas (live in WA), and multiple times to Cali Utah. Heated seats, hauls whatever is needed. LOVE HER - the way she feels, the way she drives, everything. Would rebuild her top to bottom before selling. When something is good, wears well and you're happy why trade it for an unknown? (That's not to say I wouldn't mind also owning oh, I don't know... a Porsche Panamera, but a girl can have several cars, right?)

Might get something newer in addition if the economy was better but don't see the point of having a car payment with Zero in the White House and SMOD looming.

Posted by: Linlithgow at December 16, 2012 06:56 AM (Gim9y)

841 Hi. I have a '96 Yukon I love. Had to do some repairs, nothing or a grand yet. New shoes last year. Half price at big o. 221K miles so far. I love that girl.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:01 AM (z/wx3)

842 Chuck the whole damn thing.
LiB.

Posted by: In Cognito at December 16, 2012 07:08 AM (GnJ7A)

843 Morning morons and 'ettes. Got the dawn patrol again in the ED. Wonder if I mssed anything good in 800+ comments overnight?

Posted by: Conservative Crank, in work purgatory at December 16, 2012 07:12 AM (FqcJu)

844 Spent some time with a dear friend today. She asked why society was so fucked up. She has never had children of her own. I told her it was a number of things. Schools, loss of morality and responsibility and every fucken person thinks they are a special snow flake. They all get participation trophys. Such a messed up world. Still looking for a local church I can go to. Not much luck so far. sigh.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:13 AM (z/wx3)

845 So our Quisling speaker, according to the AP, is in the process of surrendering - he has proposed taxes on those who make over one million. My guess is he'll fully cave by New Year's.

My hope is that the caucus revolts and our drunken asshole speaker resigns when it is apparent he has lost their confidence.

If they don't the GOP is hopeless, and it is time to create a third party willing to be an oppositon party and not a scapegoat party.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 16, 2012 07:17 AM (uhAkr)

846 Well, Boehner HAS proved that Obama doesn't want to tax "millionaires and billionaires."

Obama wants to tax two teachers in New York City, or a couple of IT workers in California.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2012 07:19 AM (GoIUi)

847 he has proposed taxes on those who make over one million


When that isn't enough....taxes on those who make over $250,000
When that isn't enough....taxes on those who make over $150,000
When that isn't enough....taxes on those who make over $75,000

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 16, 2012 07:24 AM (BAnPT)

848 Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2012 07:19 AM (GoIUi)

Boehner's not willing to aggressively state that, and nobody is paying attention to the negotiation except Democrats and us. The Democrats see it that he is scared and close to cracking.

His seven-dimensional chess has always lead to us getting a shitty deal.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 16, 2012 07:29 AM (uhAkr)

849 #848 Yes, I know. I was just commenting on what the offer and refusal demonstrated.

Pretty hard to get any message about that out this weekend, you know. TV is wall-to-wall coverage of the Connecticut murders.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2012 07:31 AM (GoIUi)

850 Lib.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:32 AM (z/wx3)

851 So how long are you guys gonna drive your current cars? What type of repair would make you buy a new one?I drive a 1991 Mustang GT. It is a project car So I'll have to buy a new car soon seeing as I do not live on the bus line any more. The next carI get I will drive until the wheels fall off and build other cars and trucks.

Posted by: theworldisnotenough at December 16, 2012 07:39 AM (AlIAz)

852 So how long are you guys gonna drive your current cars? What type of repair would make you buy a new one?I drive a 1991 Mustang GT. It is a project car So I'll have to buy a new car soon seeing as I do not live on the bus line any more. The next carI get I will drive until the wheels fall off and build other cars and trucks.
Posted by: theworldisnotenough at December 16, 2012 07:39 AM (AlIAz)

Mornin rons. I have a 2005 Honda Element that so far has been good to me. It's got 107K miles on it. I keep the oil and transmission fluid changed and drive the crap out of it. Best car I have ever had. and it's paid for. I will drive this car until I can afford a new Ferrari California, or it quits running, whichever comes first.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 07:46 AM (3Y7RV)

853 I guess Vic will be along shortly with the real news, so in the interim there's this:

Vodka helps stranded elephants survive in Russia

http://tinyurl.com/dxpgy2a

Well, yeah.

Posted by: Herculean Effort at December 16, 2012 07:49 AM (bS6uW)

854 Ferrari California? Is that different that a 'regular' Ferrari?

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:49 AM (z/wx3)

855 Ferrari California? Is that different that a 'regular' Ferrari?
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:49 AM (z/wx3)

Make and Model. Like Chevy Corvette.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 07:50 AM (3Y7RV)

856 http://preview.tinyurl.com/bt257dw

Ferrari California.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 07:53 AM (3Y7RV)

857 Ah, gotcha. Not sure I would want one if I could afford one. In this day and time think I might want a good tractor instead.

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:54 AM (z/wx3)

858 Maximum lifespan for any car is 7 years for me.

Once the cars interior starts going to shit and the big expenses start to kick in it's time to trade in for a new one. I got a 7500 trade in for my Hyundai Santa Fe for a Honda Fit.

The Santa Fe was in need of new tires, struts, shocks, brakes, etc. I totaled up the cost of getting all of the work done and what I could get for it in trade in as is and it really was a no brainer.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 16, 2012 07:54 AM (0fxcV)

859 Ah, gotcha. Not sure I would want one if I could afford one. In this day and time think I might want a good tractor instead.
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:54 AM (z/wx3)

That's good pragmatic thinkin. But before the end comes, It's one of those things I've always wanted.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 07:56 AM (3Y7RV)

860 Wow. That convertable is sweet little ride!

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:56 AM (z/wx3)

861 Wow. That convertable is sweet little ride!
Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:56 AM (z/wx3)

And it comes with a 7 year 85,750 mile free maintenance agreement.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 16, 2012 07:58 AM (3Y7RV)

862 nood thread up

Posted by: Infidel at December 16, 2012 07:59 AM (z/wx3)

863 To while away a bit of time until we get Vic and the news thread, today is the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party (1773). We haven't learned to like taxes any more than our grandfathers did.

And in the category of 'What a hell of a way to spend Christmas' OTD in 1944 the Battle of the Bulge began. We haven't learned to like Nazis either.

Posted by: Retread at December 16, 2012 08:02 AM (zxitI)

864 We drove a Ford Explorer from Desert Storm to Operatioin Iraq Freedom - 10 years and over 300,000 miles. Original engine, transmission and electrical (except for batteries and plugs). Interior was still in good shape, but the rust was so bad that pieces were falling off and there was a hole in the floor.

We finally traded it in on a used Jeep Cheorkee, which I am currently driving. I hated to see her go, but there was no way to keep it and the body was just terrible. I was afraid that one day I would stop and the body would just break off and keep moving forward, like a cartoon.

That Ford Explorer made 5 trips to Missouri, 3 to Florida, and one to Virginia. We hauled furniture, bushes, and even a riding lawnmower in it. I just loved it, and if I ever see a 91 Explorer with a good body I will buy it just to have it.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2012 08:04 AM (GoIUi)

865 I have 192,000 miles on my '06 Mustang GT. I've only done the brakes once, replaced the serpentine belt and the right front wheel hub (damned NJ pot holes!). Still runs great and gets an average 30 MPG on the highway every morning on the way to work, a 56 mile commute each way. I change the oil/filter every 3000 miles and the fuel filter every 30,000. Oh, the original battery finally died at around 125,000 miles.
In 1970, I purchased a Chevelle Malibu and drove it for 36 years and 676,000 miles before finally retiring it in 2006 when I bought the GT. One engine replacement at 345,000 miles...the original 350 and a restoration in 1999. It now has classic plates on it. I do all the work myself on the cars which, in my opinion, helps.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 16, 2012 08:26 AM (TPimP)

866 '00 Passat/4Mo w255k; '07 Ford E-150 (work trk) w112k;
'96 Honda (mc) ST1100 w81k...drive and ride them until they stop...!

Posted by: billygoat at December 16, 2012 10:01 AM (1iJ3a)

867 96 Grand Am 232,000. Shock struts brakes brakes, alternator
94 Cut Supreme 196,000mi. Same, still ran great when sold

Current vehicles:

99 F-150 4X4. 197,000mi - new coils, wheel bearing alternater. Rust finally starting to set in to panels. Now drive only in winter weather.
03 Odyssey 247,000mi - Warranty transmission, shocks/struts, brakes.
05 Accord. 108,000mi - brakes, timing belt. Had her since 32K. Just getting her broken in.

All the above: routine oil change!

Posted by: Goodytwoshoes at December 16, 2012 11:21 AM (UkfaC)

868 Just traded in my 2004 Lexus RX330 with 230,000 miles on it. Bought it with one year and 25k miles on it. Maintenance was expensive through the dealer, but never had any unexpected repairs along the way. Was usually able to go about 7000 miles between oil changes.

Posted by: Dudley Smith at December 16, 2012 02:13 PM (6T+1F)






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