Top Headline Comments 12-12-12

Happy Three Dozen Day.

Liberals started bleating about "free loaders" as soon as it looked like Michigan's right-to-work law would pass. Heritage's Lachlan Markay explains the myth of the free loader. Generally, there's nothing in law stopping unions from members-only bargaining; they usually make a choice to bargain on behalf of non-members, who they then deride as "free loaders" and demand agency fees from.

The Seventh Circuit shot down Illinois' blanket ban on carrying outside the home. It relied, in part, on the Second Amendment's "bear arms" text to reject Illinois' argument that the "keep" in "keep and bear arms" meant that citizens only had the right to keep arms in the home.

Rand Simberg has an excellent article on property rights in space. It's long.

Meanwhile North Korea successfully launched a satellite.

The Democrats really have done a number on us. Not only have have Democrats seized the mantle of tax cutting, but Obama is demanding that Republicans, not himself and not Democrats, take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 06:55 AM



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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Wednesday, December 12, 2012. On this day in 1917 Father Edward J. Flanagan founds Boys Town as a farm village for wayward boys.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)

2 Obama continues his war on financial prudence by stubbornly refusing to cut spending at all. Like last time it will go down to the last minute and Boner will roll over.

http://is.gd/7WDxgT

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)

3 RIP Ravi Shankar at 92.

http://is.gd/FKknaW

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)

4 Amid the union violence and hate screaming the MI legislature approved the right to work law. Teachers unions not withstanding.

http://is.gd/ObilZC

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:56 AM (YdQQY)

5 Obama recognizes Syrian rebels. Yes, the same ones who gouged out a Christian priest’s eyes and killed him.

http://is.gd/P89gR6

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

6 Recall that medical device tax I linked to the other day. Well the Dems wish to delay it now. A clear case of “you have to pass the bill before reading it”.

http://is.gd/SgSKVE

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

7 WaEx reviews all the crap that has stripped out of Obamacare so far.

http://is.gd/UmclO8

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

8 Holder wants automatic voter fraud now

http://is.gd/9ZkklN

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

9 Census data shows CA is continuing to lose residents as more and more people move to TX. Even the flood of illegals from Mexico is tapering off so CA population will finally start dropping. Too bad all those illegals are counted for the purposes of apportionment and representation (thank you Democrats).

http://is.gd/nU1KCu

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:58 AM (YdQQY)

10 Some want to sneak the ill-fated farm bill into the cliff negotiations. This article talks about subsidies for corporate farms but as I recall > 80% of that farm bill was food stamps. It should be renamed the Food Stamp bill.

http://is.gd/PPQ3zW

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:58 AM (YdQQY)

11 Shitweasels in that MI union now claiming the video of them tearing up tent in orgy of violence is a false flag operation to destroy their credibility. What credibility?

http://is.gd/N7xBVx

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:58 AM (YdQQY)

12 Boner’s secret purge list criteria to be revealed to Republican “study committee”. Perhaps one of them will leak it.

http://is.gd/GfuT2d

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:58 AM (YdQQY)

13 Costas now doubling down on his anti-gun rant by bringing in the Zimmerman case.

http://is.gd/XbTiph

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:59 AM (YdQQY)

14 Scenes I like to see (to paraphrase the old Mad Magazine phrase). Crowder tells union thug to come forward and face jail or fight me in MMA fight. He better take the jail time.

http://is.gd/PQqw08

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:59 AM (YdQQY)

15 DeMint replacement narrowed down to 5 with Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy leading the pack. Also included is Mark Sanford’s ex-wife. I have to throw the BS flag on that one.

http://is.gd/cXG2m3

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:59 AM (YdQQY)

16 It is amazing that Liberals claim to speak the same language as the rest of us.

"Freeloader" means to me someone who gets something for nothing....you know like Free Shit Army, to a fucktard mule it means "person who likes to work without engaging in extortionary practices"....

Let it burn and use them for fuel.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 06:59 AM (LRFds)

17 IRS to discontinue “Tax Migration” report because blue States were embarrassed.

http://is.gd/YwBSsy

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:59 AM (YdQQY)

18 Jail time for charging a cell phone?

http://is.gd/wRNqfR

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:00 AM (YdQQY)

19 Kindle Daily Deal:

Death of Kings

Historical-fiction master Bernard Cornwell's latest installment of his critically acclaimed Saxon Chronicles begins as the ninth century wanes. Alfred the Great lies dying with his kingdom on the brink of chaos. Though his son, Edward, is his successor, others desire the throne and ambitious pagan Vikings threaten from the north.

(Note: I read the first 3 books in this series. They started out good but became tedious after a while)

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:00 AM (YdQQY)

20 And finally today’s Christmas Kitteh

http://is.gd/0OD5bx


And that’s it for Wednesday, December 12, 2012.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:00 AM (YdQQY)

21 It takes a fucking lawyer...

to look at "keep and bear" and not see "own and carry"

You have to go to school a LONG time to get as stupid as the legal profession.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 07:01 AM (LRFds)

22 "Deck the halls with macro follies..."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bbygfqd

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:02 AM (1V6Pv)

23 The Democrats really have done a number on us. Not only have have Democrats seized the mantle of tax cutting, but Obama is demanding that Republicans, not himself and not Democrats, take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts.



The Democraps haven't seized anything. The MFM is handing it to them and the general public is too stupid, or lazy, to see the difference.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

24


DAY 36

1,424 to go


Mayans, Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, McCain's, MIRV's, mutants, malcontents, miscreants, menstruating mons veneri and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:04 AM (XkWWK)

25 "The only question is when the cure for all known diseases actually turns out to be the word 'hope', where will we find room amidst all the overpopulation to plant all the money trees?"
As bitter as I feel:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/aep2o99

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:04 AM (1V6Pv)

26 We ought to just shoot the satellite down and tell Pyongyang to pound sand for it. The Norks could use a good bitch-slap.

Posted by: General Zod at December 12, 2012 07:04 AM (2+bRt)

27 The cruelest tax, inflation... Dr. Sowell lays it out for us:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/a7334ao

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:05 AM (1V6Pv)

28 With breathtaking deftness, Ogabe at once ratchets up his Class War while poisoning the well of prosperity:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/cqp2yfc

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:05 AM (1V6Pv)

29 What inflation, we have no stinking inflation.

Posted by: Gov approved propaganda at December 12, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)

30 I'd been wondering what the Fairness Nazis were going to do about the huge problem of an abundant food supply produced by private agriculture. Here's the answer: "Obama phone" = "Obama farm". It's where the Free S**t Army goes come the revolution. "It's more just, Comrade."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bowltgo
It also opens a market for a Van Jones-revivified New! Improved! Soylent Green. ("It's the new green energy!")

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:06 AM (1V6Pv)

31 My AOS reader android app is getting close to complete. Latest version is available in the play store now. Amazon market is taking longer to approve.

Posted by: errhead at December 12, 2012 07:07 AM (p4fm6)

32 21 -

Alas, I think most lawyers don't learn "teh stoopid" until after they get out of school. It's the profession itself that corrupts their minds. The milieu in which they operate is so isolated and insulated they develop a way of abusing the language that only they fully understand, and in the end, only benefits them.

Whenever I encounter lawyers (and I have several of them in my family) I tend to look at them with sympathy. It's like a chronic, self-chosen disease.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2012 07:08 AM (BeSEI)

33 On picking the programs to cut Obama is lying yet again. As soon as the Republicans picked the cuts he would denounce them and Dirty Harry would say "dead on arrival".


Bit if I was Boner I would cut every social welfare program there is and eliminate entire departments like HUD, DOE, EPA etc and then dare him to kill it.


The people that support those programs do not vote Republican anyway.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY)

34 In doing a little research for a friend's screenplay, I started reading the citations for Medal of Honor recipients. Totally captivating.

And then I come here and read what the hell is going on today and think of those wonderful guys and their sacrifices.

Not enough tears and rage.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:12 AM (XkWWK)

35 Concomitant to the right to assemble is the right to not assemble.

The corollary to that is if I choose to not join with you, you are in no way obligated to bargain on my behalf.

The term free loader is as they say, not applicable and is more applicable to the FSA!


Oh and let it burn!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 12, 2012 07:13 AM (RrD4h)

36 Guess I'll be the first lawyer commenter to say good morning ya'll.

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2012 07:13 AM (gSN6u)

37 J.J. Sefton another Medal of Honor story
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2009/08/saint-in-hell.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2012 07:14 AM (4+0nx)

38 Good morning, morons! The fiscal cliff thing has gotten on my last nerve, so I have nothing to contribute on that score.

Am tired of TFG's performance, and am really tired of the vast array of pundits and Washington officials who continue to pretend that his goal is something other than bringing this country to its knees.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:15 AM (GoIUi)

39 Well, Boehner is a poor negotiator. He has been pretty plain that what he most fears is blame, rather than outcome.

Let''s go over the "cliff" which isn't a cliff at all but rather a set of legislative choices.

The scaremongers saying we are due for a recession because the cliff will take seventy bazillion dollars out of the economy seem to discount the fact that the only way to avoid the cliff items is to replace them with something that does exactly the same thing. Obama just wants a different set of seventy bazillion dollars.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 12, 2012 07:16 AM (/1U3u)

40 As Rush said yesterday, "Submit the Clinton tax rates, and submit the Clinton budget. Let Obama veto."

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at December 12, 2012 07:17 AM (4sAbs)

41 Remember the doc who helped us get Ben Ladin? He's being tortured in prison now by our "allies".


Thank you for outing him for political gain you traitorous scum bag Obama.

http://is.gd/QxvthS


Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:17 AM (YdQQY)

42 Is there any evidence that Boehner does a fucking thing other than sob about being born over a bar? He's probably as lazy and worthless as the JEF.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 12, 2012 07:18 AM (oOfdY)

43 @29

My pretzels have gone from $2.50 to $3.59 that's a 43% increase in the last week.


They are up 80% in the last four years.

I do all of the shopping for my family so I am quite familiar with the real inflation that is going on.

It's a good thing that the rocket surgeons who calculate inflation don't use food prices in their calculations or the President might have something to answer for.

Oh that's right this President answers for nothing.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 12, 2012 07:19 AM (RrD4h)

44 Posted by: Golan Globus at December 12, 2012 07:16 AM (/1U3u)


And that is aside from the fact that we have never recovered from the 2008 "recession" to begin with.


If OBama had lost the election we would probably be seeing signs of a coming recovery now.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:19 AM (YdQQY)

45 Bret Baier's (of Fox's Special Report) five y/o son is having angioplasty this morning. He's already had two open heart surgeries.

Posted by: Retread at December 12, 2012 07:19 AM (zxitI)

46 Exactly how many layers of irony are present in the political left pulling out the absurd "free loader" meme with regards to right to work laws? Try to get your mind around that. Is there even an apt analogy for that? Geez. And what takes it from retarded to fully retarded is that many tens of thousands of Michiganders have lost their jobs and all hope directly because of labor unions. It's not a coincidence the U.S. auto industry imploded.

As for the Democrats already outflanking the GOP on taxes and spending, elections have consequences. And the reality is that even when the GOP cleaned the Dems' clocks in prior cycles the Dems nevertheless were and remain a lot better at the game of politics.

Politics is a rough and serious business. It's not a coffee klatch or a prayer session. The Dems decades ago figured that out. Many of those on the right and the putative right still are clueless. Now we pay the price. Literally.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at December 12, 2012 07:19 AM (r2PLg)

47 @17 You can't make that s**t up! Unbelievable!
Crank the handle on the combinatoric machine with these inputs and you get Minneapolis: shiny trains, bike paths, beautiful urban marathons... and property taxes that far exceed what I ever paid in rent when I was young and dumb enough to live there, paid by fools who vote for Sheikh Ellison for Congress, and otherwise peopled by very recent immigrants from tropical capitols who have absolutely no idea how to drive, much less how to drive in the snow.
"A nation always begins to rot first in its great cities, is indeed perhaps always rotting there, and is saved only by the antiseptic virtues of fresh supplies of country blood." --John Burroughs, 'Phases of Farm Life'. That supply is now cut off and supplanted.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:22 AM (1V6Pv)

48 Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at December 12, 2012 07:19 AM (r2PLg)


I saw a study that was done by Heritage back around the 2008 time frame. The average cost in wages and benefits to build a car in Detroit by the big 3 was around $80/hr. The average cost to build a car at the non-union plant in TN was $35/hr.


The numbers speak for themselves. The big 3 will be bankrupt again soon because the root problem was never fixed.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:24 AM (YdQQY)

49 Our leader is an effete loser who wants to be cozier with our enemies than with us. He lives in a fantasy world where the greatest threat is those rabid teabaggers with their racism.

This is the guy we have negotiating with Obama.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 12, 2012 07:24 AM (uhAkr)

50 General Woundwort, the food inflation is something that one would think the media would give attention to. It is devastating on seniors on fixed income and the working poor.

I work every Friday in our church's food pantry and we are beginning to get people who simply cannot feed their families and pay rent. When people are excited and grateful to get a free pack of beans or box of cereal, it just makes you so sad.

I went to the grocery yesterday and noticed that the Tombstone pizzas, a frequent sale item at Kroger, have gone from 5/$10 to 4/$10. That's a 25% jump in pricing. Eggs have been at $1.98 / dozen for 3 weeks. Butter, which I remember buying 2 years ago for baking at 99 cents/ lb. is now on sale for $2.49.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:25 AM (GoIUi)

51 36 NC Kate,

No offense to any Moron Lawyers present....

my wife was a legal secretary before induction, I know many nice lawyers of course I also know many nice pit vipers.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 07:26 AM (LRFds)

52 37 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2012 07:14 AM (4+0nx)


Thanks, Anna. I know the story well. In fact, my mother and some of her family survived Mauthausen. Perhaps they knew Ted Rubin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:27 AM (XkWWK)

53 Politics is a rough and serious business. It's not a coffee klatch or a prayer session. The Dems decades ago figured that out. Many of those on the right and the putative right still are clueless. Now we pay the price. Literally.
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at December 12, 2012 07:19 AM (r2PLg)



This.

And as a result they've pushed past the threshold where the political process is a viable remedy for our ills. LIB (maybe with a little bit of legal MIB)is the only legal solution we have. The administration is litterally evil - they endorse evil men and evil practices. They are shameless lawbreakers, and are never called to account. Let it fall down and die. America deserves it for abandoning that which is good.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 12, 2012 07:28 AM (Qqva6)

54 Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:25 AM (GoIUi)


Don't worry, some price controls will fix those problems right up!

And if that doesn't work, the state can reorganize agriculture away from the bourgeois mentality of profit-making.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 12, 2012 07:28 AM (uhAkr)

55 50 Miss marple,

Oh they'll pay attention to food inflation....when we take office....

then granny will be 'forced to eat cat food"...

Fuck the media.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 07:28 AM (LRFds)

56 Fox did a segment on food inflation that I saw a few weeks ago. They blamed everything in the world except the real culprit.

Of course it was drought in the midwest, use of grains in ethanol, and all kinds of other minor shit. Not a stinking word about printing money to the tune of trillions since Obama has been in office.


It is the Argentina method of paying off massive debt w/o defaulting. Make the dollar worth about ten cents and you automatically owe 90 cents/dollar less.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:29 AM (YdQQY)

57 Vic, back when my state still had auto plants, the workers took home crazy wages, better than a lot of professions , and then when things got slow ( when there were no cars to make so no work ) they used to still collect 80% of their pay. They never got laid off.

Oh, and those plants are all closed now. Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 12, 2012 07:29 AM (53riN)

58 The Democrats really have done a number on us. Not only have have Democrats seized the mantle of tax cutting, but Obama is demanding that Republicans, not himself and not Democrats, take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts.


Who’s “us,” white man? If the goddamn GOP is too stupid to keep out of the way of its own dick in dealing with the SCOAMF, they deserve the pounding they get. I remember in one of the endless post-mortem threads, someone asserting (in view of some commenters’ insistence that Romney should have really pimp-slapped Barky) that people like me wouldn’t be happy unless Romney had called the Kenyan dog-eater a “lying asshole” on national TV. Obama is a lying asshole. Perhaps instead of wondering “when the President is going to get serious,” as Bitch McConnell was reported on the morning news, the leadership should call him a lying, lazy, shiftless, worthless asshole and let the chips fall where they may. So we get blamed for harsh language – so what? Time to punch back twice as hard. So we get called out for demeaning the office of the presidency – so what? We can’t demean it more than Preezy’s own presence has done.


Oh, what’s the use? Just roll over, Boehner, and get it over with. We know you don’t really give a shit about the fiscal cliff, the country or the base. You only want to make sure your access to a carton of Camels and a case of Man-Tan is unimpeded. Jackass.


*deep breath*


Thanks (I guess) for the news, Gabe and Vic. Today is the birthday of Edward G. Robinson (“where’s your Messiah now, nyeahh?”). Like Roger Moore, he didn’t like to handle guns and would squeeze his eyes shut whenever he had to fire one, forcing makeup men to tape his eyelids open for scenes that called for gun-slinging.


One day, as Robinson was coming out of a movie theater, and elderly woman holding a little boy by the hand came up to him and asked if he was the actor “who played Little Caesar and all those other bad men,” and when he said he was, exclaimed, “Well, I’m glad I have this opportunity of telling you to your face what a bad influence your pictures have had on our young people.” “What makes you think so?” Robinson asked. “I ought to know,” she said firmly, shaking the little boy’s arm. “I’ve taken my grandson to see Little Caesar eight times.”


If you’re a fan of classic movies, you may have seen the name W.S. Van Dyke on a number of pictures. A veteran of the silent days, Van Dyke was known as “One-Shot Woody” for his insistence on speedy takes. Here’s a story from Keenan Wynn that illustrates his cost-saving measures: during the filming of an early Thin Man movie, it seems, there was a trucking shot which moved down a long refectory table. Seated at the table were most of the MGM stock company, character actors that audiences knew on sight. At the head of the table was the group’s boss, who was supposed to deliver a long speech as the camera trucked down the table, capturing the reactions of the other actors.


As the camera got to the end of the table, the actor intoned, “And that’s all I’ve got to say.” He sat down. . .and actually died! Naturally, the studio doctor was called. “Yes, he’s dead,” the doctor opined. “Better get him out of here.”


“Hold it! Hold it!” Van Dyke yelled. Before anyone could touch the corpse, the director pulled out his viewfinder and squatted down in back of the actor’s body, looking for an over-the-shoulder shot. “OK,” he finally said, “take him out, but leave the coat.” And he kept on working.


Now I’ve got to go to work (ugh!). Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Charles Barkley at December 12, 2012 07:29 AM (zF6Iw)

59 52 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 12, 2012 07:14 AM (4+0nx)


Meant to add, it is amazing how many of those guys intentionally fell on grenades to protect their buddies. They must be looking down on us, stunned at what America's become.

G-d bless them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:29 AM (XkWWK)

60 Turn of the Italian!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:30 AM (XkWWK)

61 I went to the grocery yesterday and noticed that the Tombstone pizzas, a frequent sale item at Kroger, have gone from 5/$10 to 4/$10. That's a 25% jump in pricing. Eggs have been at $1.98 / dozen for 3 weeks. Butter, which I remember buying 2 years ago for baking at 99 cents/ lb. is now on sale for $2.49.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:25 AM (GoIUi)



This is all true, but is not likely to be inflation in the sense that the change in the money supply is a factor. We just got through the 5th worst drought in recorded American history. This isn't the only country that had problems this year, either. Demand is stable or increasing, and the supply is constrained.

Much as I hate, and I really do mean HATE, the current administration, this is one area there is damn little anyone can doto help.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 12, 2012 07:31 AM (Qqva6)

62 Filthy Italics.

Posted by: Butters at December 12, 2012 07:32 AM (NIZHJ)

63 Well, the food inflation is something we should be shouting about and asking reporters why they aren't covering it.

This is something that everyone can understand. I swear that yesterday at the grocery it seemed like a huge number of things were priced at $5.00. Bag of apples, pound of American cheese, large container of oatmeal, etc.

Try feeding 3 kids on a paycheck of $350/week and you can see what the problem is.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:32 AM (GoIUi)

64 Taking food and energy out of the inflation calculations is like something Orwell would've rejected from his novels as being too fucking implausible. Those items directly impact every fucking citizen yet some bureaucratic cocksucker deems them too volatile? That's like those climate geniuses removing data which doesn't fit their dipshit models.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 12, 2012 07:32 AM (oOfdY)

65 barrel

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:32 AM (YdQQY)

66 60 Turn of the Italian!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:30 AM (XkWWK)

ma perchè? Ti offende?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 12, 2012 07:34 AM (53riN)

67 So the mid-west had some drought. The South had the biggest bumper crop in corn in a long time.


Drought is not the cause of our food inflation. Perhaps a wee small but. The real culprit is printing money out the kazzoo.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (YdQQY)

68 Here is where the R's need to latch on to the word "freeloader" and drill it into everyone's head. Come out strong against freeloading, and only casually mention that non-union employees are not freeloaders, but the 47% are.

this is the kind of moment Breitbart could turn around to our advantage

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (zZJJp)

69 I know. I know. I think I'll just start reserving my barrel spot every morning.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (zF6Iw)

70 BTW, they do not grow apples in the midwest. Those are from the NW region.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:35 AM (YdQQY)

71 @70 Beg to differ. Big apple orchards in WI and MN along the Hiawatha Valley. Of course, were big apple-eaters.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 07:38 AM (1V6Pv)

72 Hey, Reactionary, much of the produce comes from outside the area that was affected by the drought. Why are Chilean grapes $3.49 per pound?

AND, why are food prices and fuel prices conveniently left out of the inflation calculation? The whole point of inflation calculation is to allow the country to know what's going on, and to give cost-of-living calculations for things like Social Security. When they drop food prices but include the cost of televisions as their method, they are jacking around with the figures to make Obama look good and stiffing the seniors.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:38 AM (GoIUi)

73 BTW, they do not grow apples in the midwest


What?

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 12, 2012 07:38 AM (oOfdY)

74 Johnny Appleseed begs to differ.

Posted by: Retread at December 12, 2012 07:41 AM (zxitI)

75 OK they grow some but not like WA and OR. Also, the drought did not extend to WI and MN

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:42 AM (YdQQY)

76 66 ma perchè? Ti offende?
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 12, 2012 07:34 AM (53riN)


No. Basta cosi. Grazie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 12, 2012 07:42 AM (XkWWK)

77
Johnny Appleseed begs to differ.


He needs to renegotiate his contract with Disney.


Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)

78 Why wouldn't a corporation just incorporate in a country that didn't sign the OST?

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2012 07:43 AM (/FT0A)

79 MPPPP, your rants are awe inspiring. If I were to read them in public I'd end up choking the shit of the first OWS-looking fucktard who walked by.

If you ever get tired of the writing gig, head coach may be a successful occupation for your skills.

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 07:43 AM (9ScGj)

80 What is the OST?

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:43 AM (YdQQY)

81 Morning!

Cuts? Across the board, baby!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2012 07:44 AM (UTq/I)

82 Here's another thing, even if the food inflation isn't Obama's fault (which it is to a large extent) I say:

BLAME HIM ANYWAY.

Why not? We get blamed for hurricanes, why shouldn't he be blamed for food prices?

Politics, how is it done?

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:44 AM (GoIUi)

83 Most of the apples bought and sold here are locally grown. We may not export as much as the northwest, and when we import apples from those regions it's something of a novelty item.

Apples from Washington? Let me try those! Say, these have an interesting flavor... you can almost taste the ocean breezes!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2012 07:45 AM (BeSEI)

84 Miss Marple is spot on, but it's not just food and gas. Clothes prices are creeping up. A regional chain of discount clothing stores here in NJ just closed after being in business almost 30 years. Even Christmas trees are crazy high this year. Do not even get me started on what we pay in tolls as we just had a toll hike in NY/NJ. Why no one is complaining and protesting is beyond me.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 12, 2012 07:45 AM (53riN)

85 I'm confused on the Michigan law.

I understand how individuals can now opt out of paying dues. But how does this law affect whether a business goes union at all?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2012 07:46 AM (UTq/I)

86 He needs to renegotiate his contract with Disney.

Heh. I don't think Disney negotiates, they dictate.

Posted by: Retread at December 12, 2012 07:46 AM (zxitI)

87 Why we will never see Johnny Appleseed on television again:

The Lord is good to me,
And so I thank the Lord
For giving me, the things I need:
The sun and the rain and the apple seed.
The Lord is good to me.

(Johnny Appleseeed's song from the Disney cartoon, back when Walt was still in charge.)

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:47 AM (GoIUi)

88 Hey, Reactionary, much of the produce comes from outside the area that
was affected by the drought. Why are Chilean grapes $3.49 per pound?


If I can't buy an apple from Illinois and I'm hungry, I buy something from someplace else, perhaps grapes from Chile.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2012 07:47 AM (hO9ad)

89 Politics, how is it done?


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:44 AM (GoIUi)


The clean toga Repukes don't want to get in the trenches with those icky Tea Party types. Crist and Lugar are the rule rather than the exception.

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 12, 2012 07:48 AM (oOfdY)

90 82 -

Don't be silly, if we tried to blame them, they might not meet us halfway across the aisle for our daily reacharounds.

Posted by: McLame/Gramnesty at December 12, 2012 07:48 AM (BeSEI)

91 I'll tell you what the real measure of inflation is. Gold


in 2007 gold was running about $650/oz. It is currently running about $1700/oz

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (YdQQY)

92 #84 RondinellaMomma, I rarely buy clothing, since my wardrobe consists mostly of jeans and a large collection of Lands' End polo shirts and sweatshirts, plus a couple of church outfits.

I should pay attention to those prices, too. It probably explains why there are so many resale shops in my suburban area.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (GoIUi)

93 Obama recognizes Syrian rebels. Yes, the same ones who gouged out a Christian priest’s eyes and killed him. Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 06:57 AM (YdQQY)

Priest?? Oh, well then, if it's a priest then its no big deal. "Priest" implies the victim was Catholic. Catholics are moving away from TFG, ergo no reason to be upset about "some guy" dying a grisly death.

Just business.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 07:50 AM (sbV1u)

94 Liberals started bleating about "free loaders"

Really?

That's ...ummm....rich.

Posted by: Troll Feeder at December 12, 2012 07:51 AM (isPOH)

95 Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:47 AM (GoIUi)


How right you are. But I have that cartoon on a DVD and I can play it any time I want.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:52 AM (YdQQY)

96
Liberals started bleating about "free loaders" as soon as it looked like Michigan's right-to-work law would pass

Ooooohhh...
You idiots went full retard. Everyone knows you never go full retard.

Posted by: Juan de la Salsa at December 12, 2012 07:53 AM (kKA/s)

97 Thank you all for giving me my morning depression fix. As I thought, things are worse than I thought. I am going to go play with a puppy. Poor thing, he is too busy enjoying the leaves and the fresh air to realize that Obama would view him as a tasty snack, not a companion.


Has anyone seen Bo lately? There was a big post-election dinner after all!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 07:56 AM (Cnqmv)

98 I missed my opportunity to comment on the Italian menace...

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 07:56 AM (LRFds)

99 For those that do not have the DVD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IASrP1-DulU


For those that want the DVD

http://is.gd/mekgCq


Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:57 AM (YdQQY)

100 I saw a study that was done by Heritage back around
the 2008 time frame. The average cost in wages and benefits to build a
car in Detroit by the big 3 was around $80/hr. The average cost to build
a car at the non-union plant in TN was $35/hr.


The numbers speak for themselves. The big 3 will be bankrupt again soon because the root problem was never fixed.


Posted by: Vic
................
Vic - That may have been true in 2008, but the auto bailout changed the pay structure. New hires since then are paid much less than existing workers.

And, I'm not sure where that $35 figure comes from, but I know Toyota plants in the south (non-union) pay as much as $70 per hour including all bennies.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2012 07:58 AM (UTq/I)

101 OK they grow some but not like WA and OR. Also, the drought did not extend to WI and MN


A lot of those grown in WA and OR are those tasteless red delicious. Never cared for them and I think they are grown so they can be shipped all over the place. They taste mostly like water. WI, MN, and MI even Il, grow apples and I always look forward to them in the fall. Macintosh, Jonathons and Golden Delicious are always a treat. This year there was a early frost that took out a lot of the crop during the blossom stage. It wasn't the drought so much. Of course the drought could impact next years crop.

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (Q6u7O)

102 MPPPP, your rants are awe inspiring. If I were to read them in public I'd end up choking the shit of the first OWS-looking fucktard who walked by. If you ever get tired of the writing gig, head coach may be a successful occupation for your skills.

You're very kind, Icedog, but my talents are a fart in the wind compared to EoJ or AtC - they're the true masters of rage. I'm just pissy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (zF6Iw)

103 The Democrats really have done a number on us. Not only have have Democrats seized the mantle of tax cutting, but Obama is demanding that Republicans, not himself and not Democrats, take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts.

It is so obvious that the answer is to simply do nothing. If we're going to be blamed either way, then for God's sake take a principled stand. Raise taxes across the board, let the auto-cuts take place.

The dickheads who voted for Obama are the only ones who actually deserve to have their taxes raise. By all means let's accommodate them.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (bS6uW)

104 The Heritage numbers do not agree with you and the so-called pay cuts were a mirage.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (YdQQY)

105 And, I'm not sure where that $35 figure comes from,
but I know Toyota plants in the south (non-union) pay as much as $70 per
hour including all bennies. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2012 07:58 AM (UTq/I)


I think those figures are actually health care and pension costs alone, per vehicle, not including salaries. I could be wrong, but I remember seeing figures similar to Vic's.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:00 AM (sbV1u)

106 Looks like we jumped right into it this AM. The Michigan Leglislators and Governor are a bright spot in an otherwise grim landscape. They took the initiative, fended off threats, begging, more threats and then screaming to smack the greedy Lefty pigs right in the chops. In short, Michigan gave them a big plate of their own shit as a short order. Brave men and women and true Americans. God bless them and keep them safe.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:00 AM (6H6FZ)

107 "When you look at the mob that has gathered around the capital building
the Republicans had better hope that the union cops continue to protect
them. This situation will get worse before it gets better."

From the "Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor" article at WaEx.

Lefties proving once again, that without the threat of violence, their policies stand no chance.

Non-snarky question: how long until they start killing people who disagree with theim? I'm totally serious.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (fwARV)

108 Hey, Reactionary, much of the produce comes from outside the area that was affected by the drought. Why are Chilean grapes $3.49 per pound?AND, why are food prices and fuel prices conveniently left out of the inflation calculation?
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 07:38 AM (GoIUi)


I don't know much about Chilean grapes, but I do know that the cost to get them here is not going down. And I know that in addition to the US drought which actually IS a big deal (Michigan grows apples, corn, and almost everything else that can live in our climate and we're hit HARD this year by drought and late frosts).
Here's the thing about the inflation number - it's meant to reflect how monetary policy is affecting prices by inducing money-supply inflation. Fuel and food have wild price swings that are not money-supply-induced. We have a global market for food and energy that suffers constant supply shocks and a demand level that is continually growing and doing so at a very irregular rate. China is converting rice paddies into pastures, and the same thing in places like the Phillipines where standards of living are rising. The rich get their meat, and the poor get the shaft. The reduction in supply of basic grains pushes up the price. Swings up, or down, in food and energyare affected far less by money supply than by exogenous factors. If we are to measure the impact of increased money supply, we need something that has a more stable supply and demand profile, or else we induce a bunch of noise to the calculation. Thus, any inflation figure that includes those two factors is fairly useless for making money-supply related decisions.
Food and energy "inflation" should be its own separate reportable figure. Then we could use it to drive policy changes that would be specific to those items without trying to use the broad brush of monetary policy to affect change - which is ineffective.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (Qqva6)

109 From everything I've ever read, food is included in the CPI and in determining inflation. Has something changed or am I missing something?

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (9ScGj)

110 You're very kind, Icedog, but my talents are a fart in the wind compared to EoJ or AtC - they're the true masters of rage. I'm just pissy. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (zF6Iw)

Don't sell yourself short.

Tea? It's the drink of Rage Champions.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (sbV1u)

111 Re: inflation:

I notice too. My groceries are starting to hit me in the wallet hard. I can carry $150 worth of food in one hand now w/ plastic bags. Thats how I track inflation.

I earn a pretty decent living too... i dunno what other people are doing. Then again, i do pay 40% in taxes and dont get an ebt card.

Hint- go to the Mexican stores for meat, vegetables, fruit and some other random stuff. Your jaw will drop when its time to check out and the total bill is $12.

Bonus: Youll get to practice the language and maybe, just maybe, meet some sexy latina. Usually not though.

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (t5sVh)

112 I'm here for the free Loafers. Size 9 please.

Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:02 AM (3ZtZW)

113 Non-snarky question: how long until they start killing people who disagree with them? I'm totally serious. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (fwARV)

When the gravy train completely shuts off with no possibility of getting more.

I hope you don't live anywhere near Anacostia.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:03 AM (sbV1u)

114 102 MPPP,

or just more guarded....

like I try to be.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:04 AM (LRFds)

115 Heritage report

http://is.gd/Uq3xas



Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 08:04 AM (YdQQY)

116 110 Sean Bannion,

Yup...my rage went up at least 15 points when I chucked all soft drinks and started imbibing Tommy Lipton's Anger blend nonstop.

Oh Vic you'll never guess who got Ft Jackson on her assignment queue.

I may get to buy you dinner after all.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (LRFds)

117 Hi rons and ronettes.

I just woke up and reached for my guns. No guns here in Chi Com land. They all be back in the states.

I just wrote a long email to my daughter about the first civil war.

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (FhHqe)

118 From everything I've ever read, food is included in
the CPI and in determining inflation. Has something changed or am I
missing something?

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:01 AM (9ScGj)

Food and Gas are not included in the inflation numbers that the gov releases for the news media.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (YdQQY)

119 If I were Boehner I would take a vacation ... in Hawaii. with daily pressers pointing what an incompetent hypocritical liar the President is served up every morning at nine.

Offer nothing.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (bS6uW)

120 I hope you don't live anywhere near Anacostia.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:03 AM (sbV1u)

Alexandria.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (fwARV)

121 57
Vic, back when my state still had auto plants, the workers took home
crazy wages, better than a lot of professions , and then when things got
slow ( when there were no cars to make so no work ) they used to still
collect 80% of their pay. They never got laid off.



Oh, and those plants are all closed now. Who'd a thunk it?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 12, 2012 07:29 AM (53riN)

My former brother-in-law had a union job with a company that makes aluminum Coke cans. Part of their contract said that, if they threatened to go on strike, workers could work as much overtime as they wanted in advance. If they didn't go on strike, everything went back to normal and the workers kept all the extra money. The only one hurt by a strike was the company.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 12, 2012 08:06 AM (Gkhxf)

122 >>Non-snarky question: how long until they start killing people who disagree with them?

I'm keeping an eye on both MI and the Pensions case in RI. States are going to find it a lot easier to renege on their Union Pensions than to pay them out. MI is one solution: Dilute the Union. RI is another: Erase the obligation.

What does that have to do with the question? I dunno.

Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (3ZtZW)

123 .....I know Toyota plants in the south (non-union) pay as much as $70 per

hour including all bennies.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2012 07:58 AM (UTq/I)



It costs abot $70 a man hour to be at top production but that is all overhead combined. With benefits pay is from $39.00 for entry level to $45.00 for top wage workers.

Posted by: Dept of Accuracy at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (+I8Mq)

124 Anyone notice that tonight's 12/12/12 concert for Sandy is for the Robin Hood Relief Fund. Maybe the whole class warfare thing has me suspicious, but why is it named after Robin Hood?

Posted by: zippy at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (n422X)

125 Oh Vic you'll never guess who got Ft Jackson on her assignment queue.


So you will be in the Columbia area now. Good news.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (YdQQY)

126 Liberals started bleating about "free loaders"

Yeah yeah yeah.

Pay your doctor with cash at time of appointment? EVIL FREE LOADER!

Bitch about having to contribute $2 co-pay on the prescription the doctor and pharmacy take a loss on after they file appropriate paperwork for partial reimbursement of the costs of giving it to you for just $2? HONORED CONTRIBUTOR TO SOCIETY!


I hate myself for wasting my teenage years reading instead of breeding indiscriminately.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (hO8IJ)

127 109 IceDog,

They altered the definitions of "inflation" for the CPI by weighing the price of food and gas differently and justifying it with mealy mouthed "well you have to buy these things so do they really count?"

http://tinyurl.com/ad3dol9

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (LRFds)

128 OK they grow some but not like WA and OR. Also, the drought did not extend to WI and MN

What kind of crack are you smoking? The drought in WI was the worst in at least 25 or 30 years. Most of the corn crop here died.

Posted by: GMan at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (sxq57)

129 Maybe the whole class warfare thing has me suspicious, but why is it named after Robin Hood? Posted by: zippy at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (n422X)

Because to a liberal, if you still have $10 left in your pocket when they're done with you....you're rich.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (sbV1u)

130 126 Heather Radish,

Ms. Radish look back in anger...

heh

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (LRFds)

131 The government can hide the taxpayer traffic numbers and misreport the unemployment numbers all they want ... at some point people will, you know, notice that they have no money. Good times to follow ....

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 08:09 AM (bS6uW)

132
Happy Aaron Rodgers Three Dozen Day.

Suck it, Bears fans!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:09 AM (Jcd0S)

133 how long until they start killing people who disagree with them? I'm
totally serious. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012
08:01 AM (fwARV)

Not long now if things continue as is. Their is an inevitable squeeze where the Democrats will have to choose between screwing the unions and screwing the poor and illegal. The union thugs will start setting fires and shooting at people.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:09 AM (6H6FZ)

134
Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (3ZtZW)

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the shooting started in Michigan in the next few days.

I've read a lot of 'tree of liberty' stuff, and 'when the shooting starts,' but I never took it too seriously until the past four or five months.

Now I think it might actually be serious. Deadly serious. I never thought I'd actually believe that about my country.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:09 AM (fwARV)

135 I hate myself for wasting my teenage years reading instead of breeding indiscriminately.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (hO8IJ)


LOL, Mornin rons. Worked for a week and a half and got laid off. They ran out of trainers on my new job. I get a day or a couple hundred off, I'm not sure.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack at December 12, 2012 08:10 AM (3Y7RV)

136 98 I missed my opportunity to comment on the Italian menace...

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 07:56 AM (LRFds)
non ti preoccupare, Berlusconi torna.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at December 12, 2012 08:10 AM (53riN)

137 Alexandria. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (fwARV)

Ditto.

At least the Potomac is a nice moat. All we have to do is pry up the Metro tracks from L'Enfant to Pentagon.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:10 AM (sbV1u)

138 Maybe the X-37B will take a quick peek at the Nork satellite, or just give it a little helpful nudge. That would really scramble their eggs back in Pyongyang.

Posted by: and irresolute at December 12, 2012 08:11 AM (DBH1h)

139
126 Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:08 AM (hO8IJ)


I'll have what she's having.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:11 AM (Jcd0S)

140 Happy Aaron Rodgers Three Dozen Andrew Luck Day.

They're both 9-4. And Luck mounted a stunning comeback over Rodgers from 18 points down.

(All that formatting...am I in the barrel?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:11 AM (hO8IJ)

141
It's a good thing that the rocket surgeons who calculate inflation don't use food prices in their calculations or the President might have something to answer for.




If you buy your food with EBT cards inflation is a non-issue.

Posted by: cicerokid at December 12, 2012 08:11 AM (g2Mgq)

142 125 Vic,

I plan to plan better for this leg.

She's down for AIT instructor duties or "den mother."

Part of why the last hitch didn't work out too well for us emotionally was her dad dying, dealing with decompressing from her Iraq tour at the same time, and my picking an apartment out of the phonebook from Fort Polk.

I may make a business trip down there this month and definitely in March/April.

Need to decide where to live, whether to get my CDL or get my EMT quals etc etc.

I'll definitely pick your brain.

Is the NorthEast still "the gold standard" for not having to deal with Steven Benjamin nation?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:12 AM (LRFds)

143 At least the Potomac is a nice moat. All we have to do is pry up the Metro tracks from L'Enfant to Pentagon.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:10 AM (sbV1u)

I always thought the Bishop (from HA) types were over-reaching with the bunker mentality. I understood the logic, but I never saw it actually playing out that way.

Now I'm glad I bought a rifle to go along with my sidearm. More glad than I should be about something like that, because of everything it implies.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:12 AM (fwARV)

144
LOL, Mornin rons. Worked for a week and a half and got laid off.
They ran out of trainers on my new job. I get a day or a couple hundred
off
, I'm not sure.


Math, how does it work?

Barky's economy is just a boomin'!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:13 AM (Jcd0S)

145 133 Surfer Doc,

Yup I live next door to a retired steward for the local Afl EIO ee I ee I o

Nice enough guy but I keep my wallet on a chain.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:13 AM (LRFds)

146 s the NorthEast still "the gold standard" for not having to deal with Steven Benjamin nation?


Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:12 AM (LRFds)

Don't know. Haven't lived in the NE for over 40 years and don't know who that is.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 08:14 AM (YdQQY)

147 @107, 113... merely getting killed by Socialists would be a good outcome, once they start, considering who their natural allies are. Remember, The State gave you life and nourished your body. You didn't build that. Now you must give your body to the State's New! Improved! Green Energy, Soylent Green. "It's magically delicious!"

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 08:16 AM (1V6Pv)

148 Not long now if things continue as is. Their is an inevitable squeeze where the Democrats will have to choose between screwing the unions and screwing the poor and illegal. The union thugs will start setting fires and shooting at people.
Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:09 AM (6H6FZ)

They'll just blame rich whitey. Union thugs are not necessarily Union workers. In my last Job at the motorcycle factory you would be shocked at the number of conservatives. Mostly the people that worked hard, didn't show up too wasted to do their job and didn't play the attendance point system were conservatives. if they were dems, they were Reagan dems.

In a big union shop, when someone is a slug, someone else has to do their job. That grates on you after awhile.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack at December 12, 2012 08:16 AM (3Y7RV)

149 I've been in a running engagement (multiple comments in a five minute window) with the lib who posted the comment I quoted up-thread.

My last comment: "Would you like to see Democrats killing those with whom they disagree? A simply 'yes' or 'no' will suffice."

Twenty minutes ago. No response. It's not like he had to go to work or anything.

Do any of the Horde think forcing them to confront - in stark terms - what they're advocating does any good?

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:16 AM (fwARV)

150 Interior Secretary Ken Salazar endorsed a plan Tuesday to remove a disputed inscription from the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial, rather than cut into the granite to replace it with a fuller quotation.

Salazar said he had reached an agreement with King's family, the group that built the memorial and the National Park Service to remove a paraphrase from King's "Drum Major" speech by carving grooves over the lettering to match existing marks in the sculpture. Memorial sculptor Lei Yixin recommended removing the inscription this way to avoid harming the monument's structural integrity.

Critics including poet Maya Angelou complained after the memorial opened in 2011 that the paraphrased quotation took King's words out of context, making him sound arrogant. The paraphrase reads: "I was a drum major for justice, peace and righteousness."

The full quotation was taken from a 1968 sermon about two months before King was assassinated. It reads: "Yes, if you want to say that I was a drum major, say that I was a drum major for justice. Say that I was a drum major for peace. I was a drum major for righteousness. And all of the other shallow things will not matter."

In a statement provided to The Associated Press, Salazar explained the resolution of the long disagreement over the inscription and how it should be repaired.

"I am proud that all parties have come together on a resolution that will help ensure the structural integrity of this timeless and powerful monument to Dr. King's life and legacy," Salazar said.


Well, thank God that's all sorted out. I'd hate to think Maya Angelou was upset.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 08:17 AM (bS6uW)

151 Now I'm glad I bought a rifle to go along with my sidearm. More glad than I should be about something like that, because of everything it implies. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:12 AM (fwARV)

I am looking at doing the same, and don't forget, CCW permits are only $50.

The Alexandria PD was nicer about it than I expected them to be.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:17 AM (sbV1u)

152 140
Happy Aaron Rodgers Three Dozen Andrew Luck Day.

They're both 9-4. And Luck mounted a stunning comeback over Rodgers from 18 points down.

(All that formatting...am I in the barrel?)


Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:11 AM (hO8IJ)

Oh, so now we're going to get all Cal vs Stanford, are we?Stanford saxophonists make the best free safeties...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:17 AM (Jcd0S)

153 Are these the same Syrian rebels that are experimenting with chemical weapons on animals? Sounds like someone TFG would recognize!
I couldn't watch the video, I saw enough of it and can't stand the language!

Posted by: CarolT at December 12, 2012 08:18 AM (z4WKX)

154 :::110 You're very kind, Icedog, but my talents are a fart in the wind compared to EoJ or AtC - they're the true masters of rage. I'm just pissy. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 07:59 AM (zF6Iw) :::

Nonsense. Captain Hate is the gold standard in scorn and invective, and there are no pretenders to his throne.

Let the Hate flow through you.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 12, 2012 08:18 AM (JDIKC)

155 146 Vic,

The mayor or what was his name?

The guy who put a woman in a coma "not drunk driving" when he was seen on camera back in '10?

Anyway my son was never happy at Meadowfield, the staff there thought he should be in the Obama Youth Choir.

I thoroughly hate the Columbia metro Board of Education.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:18 AM (LRFds)

156 If Andrew Luck beats the Texans once, then he is a minor deity. Twice....well....I don't think there will be a room large enough to contain my schadenboner.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:19 AM (sbV1u)

157 Bags of cat food keep getting smaller as prices get higher. Little old fixed income ladies with cats are getting hammered in the purse. Young people with kids are getting clobbered on everything else at the food market. All the TFG's bullshit can't convince them that things are getting better.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:21 AM (6H6FZ)

158 The Texans appear to have a bit of a problem stepping up in big games. I sense the butthurt roaring at them from somewhere out in the universe even as we read and post this morning.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 08:21 AM (bS6uW)

159 CCW permits are only $50.

The Alexandria PD was nicer about it than I expected them to be.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:17 AM (sbV1u)

I need to get my CCW. I'm glad to hear the Alexandria PD weren't total douches about it. I've not been looking forward to the fight.
I tried to register my weapon (not CCW, just register, per the law) in Ithaca, NY three times, at $182.50 (cash only) each time. In all three cases, my application was rejected without cause.

I stopped paying the fee to apply and just lived without. Good thing I never had to use it. If I had caught the hippy fucks who burned the colors on my front porch, I may have been in some serious trouble up there.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:21 AM (fwARV)

160 150
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar endorsed a plan Tuesday to remove a
disputed inscription from the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial, rather
than cut into the granite to replace it with a fuller quotation.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 08:17 AM (bS6uW)


Hell, I'd do it for next to nothing. Get me a bunch of chewing gum and a dozen or so volunteers and we'd patch it up, International Bortherhood of DuPont Workers, Waynesboro Local-style.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:22 AM (Jcd0S)

161 Speaking as someone from the Indianapolis area, I am just grateful that Luck has given us a decent season. Had he been a flop, we would have had to listen to the caterwauling of the Manning fans for the next 5 years.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 08:22 AM (GoIUi)

162 Vic, Sven,
Thanks for the info and link!

I'm now thinking the problem is even worse than simply leaving food and gas out of the equation in order to skew the numbers. The fact that Americans are having to spend more - much more - on food and gas, means they are obviously spending far less on items that are used to calculate inflation. This lesser demand will skew prices down (on these items), which will even further hide the true rate of inflation.

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:22 AM (9ScGj)

163 take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts.



The first thing I would say is POTUS/FLOTUS holidays.

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 08:22 AM (LpQbZ)

164 Wow so the woman he hit died of cancer this year...?

Ah well as long as i get to see Jimmy Bales signs for election to the SC state house it is all good....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:23 AM (LRFds)

165 I thoroughly hate the Columbia metro Board of Education.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:18 AM ===============Sumter County ain't too bad as far as it goes...if you find a place near/north of Shaw AFB, there are the public schools inside the gates. There's also a pretty good Catholic school (or at least good 3 years ago) that lots of the AF send their kids to. Not to bad a drive, if you time it right for AM traffic

Posted by: eurw at December 12, 2012 08:23 AM (1W/Ec)

166 162 IceDog,

Remember the old days when we could mock and laugh at the Soviets for their Potemkin Nation?

Yeah 'memories"

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:24 AM (LRFds)

167 The big 3 will be bankrupt again soon because the root problem was never fixed.

problems were

There's too much and too many of everything people, sub-brands, shareholders, etc., etc., etc.

The only things they got rid of was senior debt-holders and Republican dealers.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2012 08:24 AM (Xefrb)

168 That 7th Cir. gun ruling is, to paraphrase crazy uncle Joe, "a big fucking deal." Illinois is no faced with implementing a concealed carry law in 180 days or appealing to the Supreme Court. By appealing, they are rolling the dice. If they lose, the right to defend oneself becomes law of the land.

I predict after much consternation and collaboration, the Illinois AG will just take the hit and keep that ruling in the 7th Cir. only for now.

Posted by: DanInMN at December 12, 2012 08:24 AM (khf9A)

169

The Daily Caller headlines today with:

Jindal piece (education), followed by
Rubio piece (middle class), follwed by
Ryan piece (GOP character).

Interesting.

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 08:24 AM (LpQbZ)

170 165 eurw,

Funny you mention that....we liked Shaw AFB to go to to clear our heads when the city got to be too much.

My son wants a good VoTech school and I may send him to private school for the 8th grade.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:25 AM (LRFds)

171 Regarding the Nork launch....Crowder's take on what makes them so bold.

(dated yes, but still funny)

http://tinyurl.com/nstn43


And good mornin'

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:26 AM (fWAjv)

172

The party of free-loading b*tching about freeloaders.


lol

Posted by: beach irony at December 12, 2012 08:26 AM (LpQbZ)

173 I tried to register my weapon (not CCW, just register, per the law) in Ithaca, NY three times, at $182.50 (cash only) each time. In all three cases, my application was rejected without cause. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:21 AM (fwARV)

That's the great news about VA. It's a "shall" issue state. It's why I moved here instead of Maryland.

The downside of VA is that it doesn't have a "castle law." Someone breaks into your house with mayhem on their mind, you have to try to retreat.

So, they're liberal (not in the political sense) on guns laws but restrictive on how you can use them. Total disconnect.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:26 AM (sbV1u)

174 The downside of VA is that it doesn't have a "castle
law." Someone breaks into your house with mayhem on their mind, you
have to try to retreat.

So, they're liberal (not in the political sense) on guns laws but restrictive on how you can use them. Total disconnect.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:26 AM (sbV1u)

I live in an apartment. "Retreat" only gets me so far.
I wouldn't kill to defend my stuff - it's just stuff, but I would ABSOLUTELY kill to defend my people.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (fwARV)

175 What's killing me about the food thing is the package sizes. Made "seasoned crackers" last week for office food day...recipe calls for 12 oz package of oyster crackers and the packages at the store were 9 oz. 12-oz packages of chocolate chips are now 10 oz. 15-oz can of evaporated milk? Ha ha ha ha.

Do they think people aren't going to notice their holiday baking is all fucked up?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (hO8IJ)

176 161 Miss Marple,

As something of a colts "fan" more like interested observer who likes the Chargers more since the old Jack Trudeau/Eric the big Dickerson/Al Bentley days I am interested in the next two years for the Football Club in the cul de sac....

I was happy you guys had a good run, as a Dayton OH area native I loathed the clowns and bung holes something fierce and would go see Colt's camps....

Jeff George was something in the blue and white wasn't he?

Posted by: sven10077 at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (LRFds)

177 124
Anyone notice that tonight's 12/12/12 concert for Sandy is for the Robin
Hood Relief Fund. Maybe the whole class warfare thing has me
suspicious, but why is it named after Robin Hood?
Posted by: zippy at December 12, 2012 08:07 AM (n422X)



You be readin' it wrong... it's the "Robbin' Da Hood Relief Fund"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (Jcd0S)

178 What's killing me about the food thing is the package sizes. Made
"seasoned crackers" last week for office food day...recipe calls for 12
oz package of oyster crackers and the packages at the store were 9 oz.
12-oz packages of chocolate chips are now 10 oz. 15-oz can of evaporated
milk? Ha ha ha ha.

Do they think people aren't going to notice their holiday baking is all fucked up?


Inflation takes different forms. The prices for those items may remain the same, but the portion sizes are now smaller.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (GQ8sn)

179

IRS to discontinue “Tax Migration” report

They should've named it "Depardieu Migration."

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (LpQbZ)

180 I live in an apartment. "Retreat" only gets me so far. I wouldn't kill to defend my stuff - it's just stuff, but I would ABSOLUTELY kill to defend my people. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (fwARV)

Yeah, same here. Ground floor though. There's only one window for me to go out. But that requires me to leave my daughter behind.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (sbV1u)

181 Not long now if things continue as is. Their is an inevitable squeeze
where the Democrats will have to choose between screwing the unions and
screwing the poor and illegal. The union thugs will start setting fires
and shooting at people.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:09 AM (6H6FZ)



You are awfully cynical. The MFM will find a way to spin it so that whoever is getting screwed will think they are getting a good deal.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 12, 2012 08:31 AM (Gkhxf)

182 Not. Gonna. Happen.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (sbV1u)

Same. Minus the daughter part.

Somewhat related - I need to find a range. Do you have anywhere you shoot?

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:32 AM (fwARV)

183 Eggs have been at $1.98 / dozen for 3 weeks. Butter, which I remember buying 2 years ago for baking at 99 cents/ lb. is now on sale for $2.49.

Here, in the middle of farm country?
Eggs 2.49/dozen
Butter 3.00/lb.

I do all the shopping and the price increases are incessant. But what I've found is the self-checkout, as soon as I swipe my 'loyalty card', usually gives me a coupon on 'next purchase' that cuts my average trip cost by 10%.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (feFL6)

184 I would ABSOLUTELY kill to defend my people.


Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (fwARV)

I think the magic words are:I would ABSOLUTELY kill to defend my people.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:28 AM (fwARV)



Officer, I was afraid for my life and he refused to stop moving toward me.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (Cnqmv)

185 Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (feFL6)

12 onces, not 16 of Bacon, 5.99.

Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole and transgendered chicken shack at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (3Y7RV)

186 Why is Drudge going on like that about Naggers?

Posted by: Randy Marsh at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (bS6uW)

187
Sven -
don't know the tuition rates now, but St Anne's in Sumter was pretty cheap (about $3800 for upper school). not heavy on religion except in religion class, and that was just basic catechism. the priest was a cool older irishman - ripped blue jeans, sweatshirt, and cigarettes while mowing the lawns.
from downtown sumter to the gardner's ferry target was a straight drive of about25 minutes in the middle of the day. there are some housing developments near the base that had rentals - decent price 3 years ago for good size with yard...if you don't mind the sound of freedom overhead.

Posted by: eurw at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (1W/Ec)

188 They'll just blame rich whitey. Union thugs are not necessarily Union workers.
Posted by: Tyrone Velvet, proprietor, Tyrone's coin operated glory hole
and transgendered chicken shack at December 12, 2012 08:16 AM (3Y7RV)



Nor are protesters necessarily union members. Many years ago, a union went on strike against a large grocery store chain. It came out that almost none of the picketers were union members. Most were homeless or unemployed people that the union had hired for slightly higher than minimum wage to stand out and picket for them.

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at December 12, 2012 08:34 AM (Gkhxf)

189 Jeff George! Aaaagh! The most chronically whining quarterback to ever draw breath!

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 12, 2012 08:34 AM (GoIUi)

190 Sven,
I'm taking my visiting daughter to the DMZ this month - I haven't been there since 1987. Back then, I remember chuckling over the Nork's "Propaganda Village" (obviously our name for it), right over the border. They bused in women and children every day to frolic and dance in the Potemkin village - before sending them back to their shitholes at the end of the day.

Unfortunately, I think I may see things through a slightly different prism this go around....

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:34 AM (9ScGj)

191 Dammit tyrone, let me talk.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:35 AM (3Y7RV)

192 178
Inflation takes different forms. The prices for those items may remain the same, but the portion sizes are now smaller.
Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:30 AM (GQ8sn)


Not "smaller", you goof -- "new, convenient*" sizes!

*per the a downgrade of ice cream containers from one-half gallon to 1.75 quarts several years ago

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:36 AM (Jcd0S)

193

I'm not sure it was a good idea for Drudge to label Crowder as a "Fox contributor."

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 08:36 AM (LpQbZ)

194 Cambells soup used to be .69. Now it's a 1.49.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:36 AM (3Y7RV)

195 Brian Dennehy Watch

Thur 12:20AM MT on MGMHD
"Best Seller" (1987)

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 12, 2012 08:37 AM (8sCoq)

196 >>>They bused in women and children every day to frolic and dance in the Potemkin village

See, this is how you know of a certainty that Communism is fuctup. If America was a Communist country [ahem] we would have a Potemkin Village filled only with Cheerleaders, bacon, and beer.

Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:38 AM (3ZtZW)

197 Heh. Wait for the backlash when distillers downsaize valu-rite vodka from 750 ml to 600...

Posted by: cicerokid at December 12, 2012 08:38 AM (g2Mgq)

198 food prices inflating - it's cheaper for me to shop on the eu economy than at the commissary

Posted by: eurw at December 12, 2012 08:38 AM (1W/Ec)

199 Last night Crowder challenged the guy that sucker punched him to an MMA battle for Charity. I thought Crowder might be a pussy, I may have been wrong.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (3Y7RV)

200 Kerbs, green packaging saves the environment and you can have smaller freezer - why do you want more ice cream, fatty

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (ytax8)

201 Officer, I was afraid for my life and he refused to stop moving toward me.


Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 08:33 AM (Cnqmv)

Yup. You want the tv? Go for it. I'll have it replaced.
You want me or mine? Go for it. I'll have my 5.56 rounds meet you in the middle.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (fwARV)

202 174 The downside of VA is that it doesn't have a "castle
law." Someone breaks into your house with mayhem on their mind, you
have to try to retreat.

So, they're liberal (not in the political sense) on guns laws but restrictive on how you can use them. Total disconnect.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:26 AM (sbV1u)

Beg to differ. The bill that was shot down would have added another criteria that would have to have been met in order to use force - the 'overt act.' As it stands it is more or less the 'reasonable person' situation, - did you fear for your life? Yes. Alrighty then.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (fWAjv)

203 >>>Heh. Wait for the backlash when distillers downsaize valu-rite vodka from 750 ml to 600...

Pfft. I'll make my own in the basement, using those weird mushrooms I find behind the oil tank.

Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:40 AM (3ZtZW)

204
Y'know the Hollywood remake that oZfic would love to see?

"Air Force One" with Preznint Barky as the hero... dropping to his knees to fellate the terrorists the minute they showed themselves.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:40 AM (Jcd0S)

205 The Democrats really have done a number on us. Not only have have Democrats seized the mantle of tax cutting, but Obama is demanding that Republicans, not himself and not Democrats, take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts.

This is what our resident fuckup, noodle dick trolls have been demanding for weeks.Which just goes to prove that Obumfuck and his dipshit army are the world's most high profile trolls.

Oh, and good morning, all!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 12, 2012 08:41 AM (4df7R)

206 Have to go into town for a while folks. bbl

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2012 08:41 AM (YdQQY)

207 >We ought to just shoot the satellite down and tell Pyongyang to pound sand for it. The Norks could use a good bitch-slap.



relax- it's just a very fancy toaster oven

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 12, 2012 08:41 AM (8sCoq)

208 Somewhat related - I need to find a range. Do you have anywhere you shoot? Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:32 AM (fwARV)

Yup. I go to Gilbert Indoor Range in Rockville. Just Google it.

But I hear the range at the NRA Headquarters on Waples Mill Rd in Fairfax is pretty nice.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:41 AM (sbV1u)

209 Pfft. I'll make my own in the basement, using those weird mushrooms I find behind the oil tank.
Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:40 AM (3ZtZW)

My new favorite show on TV, moonshiners, the most educational thing I've seen in awhile.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:41 AM (3Y7RV)

210 199 Last night Crowder challenged the guy that sucker punched him to an MMA battle for Charity. I thought Crowder might be a pussy, I may have been wrong.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (3Y7RV)

He messes around with MMA. Don't know his skill level, but I don't think he is a pussy.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:42 AM (fWAjv)

211
*per the a downgrade of ice cream containers from one-half gallon to 1.75 quarts several years ago

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:36 AM (Jcd0S)



I noticed some of the ice cream is now 1.5 quarts now. Same price as before.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:42 AM (6H6FZ)

212 210
199 Last night Crowder challenged the guy that sucker punched him to an
MMA battle for Charity. I thought Crowder might be a pussy, I may have
been wrong.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (3Y7RV)



He messes around with MMA. Don't know his skill level, but I don't think he is a pussy.



50 Quatloos on the skinny Canadian.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:42 AM (GQ8sn)

213 Check out americandigest.org this morning for a cold, hard dose of what's coming our way:


And just in case you don't think they're making lists.

They've already had the GooHooBingBook hipsters set them up with a data mining operation. Once it's up and running, it doesn't take much to re-purpose. They have lots of money left over. Now they are trying to get their supporters to call up other targeted people and put pressure on the Republican Congresscritters. And so it begins.

Which means they have a list of their reliable people, their potential supporters, and a list of Others. Data mining merges their own data, with anything found on the Web. Now that they aren't running a campaign, but they still have a war chest, they can grab or buy surreptitiously anything out there, and "there's no controlling legal authority". And Google will be glad to help, Eric Schmidt will personally see to it, he'll sell them the rope.

And when these unemployed hipsters with massive college debt call you up, and you start cussing at the mention of the Usurper and being "uncooperative", well, then you go on the "Other" list. And they data mine you and find out everything about you, and how you can be hurt.

They'll keep track of how often you help them. The compliant ones, who respond to their pleas, will soon start getting bennies. And who the heck is paying for all this? Shoot, no one had the courage to sue them when they were laundering millions in illegal foreign money during both elections. The Courts and the constitutional lawyers mewled that "nobody has standing to sue". Now that they are beyond the reach of election law, the money just magically appears. None dare call it treason.

Like a pusher or a pimp, they'll next try to get you to graduate to the "hard stuff": direct action. Please, they'll say, we really need your help, show up at this time and place to help the Usurper. They'll loan you a t-shirt to wear (and ask you to buy it). The leaders will have special shirts, and campaign-style buttons, and perhaps cute little hats. And you'll go where you're told, and do what you're asked to, and they'll bus you there and give you a stipend. You're One of Them now.

And if you keep answering their call, you go higher on the "One of Us" list, and qualify for more bennies. Free phones, debt forgiveness, extra ration cards. Chevy Volts at an unheard of discount.

Watch for it. The turning point is when the purple T-shirts disappear, and it becomes button-down shirts with epaulets. Uniforms. Insignia. The hats aren't so cute anymore. You'll be part of the team now, the core of the Usurper's civilian national security force. And you'll go where you're told, and you'll do what you're told, because the bennies keep coming, and you're in for a penny, in for a pound. And the people you're contesting against, well, they're the Other, they're just wrong, they're the 1% that's keeping you down and pissing on you all the time. And now it's your turn, your time to rise. Time for revenge, to punch back twice as hard. And when some of your folks start feeling queasy about the hurt you're putting on all those Others, somebody with hard dead eyes will say "You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs."

You won't have to worry about the police. They'll be on your side. They're loyalty is to their union and police brothers, not our Constitution. They'll look the other way, and slow-walk complaints. Unless you're on the "Other" list, in which case they'll come on like a ton of bricks. They'll be told who's on which list, and they'll do what they're told. LAPD has shown us the truth of it.When a sitting President encourages people to vote for revenge, that is a declaration of civil war! Statements like that should not be made, because they take on a life of their own. We the People granted limited powers to our governments to secure some of our Rights, and the Blessings of Liberty for everyone. The Usurper intends to use those powers for revenge of one faction upon another. No rational, moral, civilized, peaceful person would say such a thing. Ever.

The Usurper and his minions have told you all this. He decides how much money you're allowed to make, you don't own what you create, if need be they'll send you to re-education camps, we need a personally-loyal civilian army. Why don't you believe him? Do you believe that he can't possibly want civil war? Of course he doesn't, he wants to so demoralize you, and make you think you are alone, that you won't stand your ground, but give up and give in to the inevitable. But he will not shy from a civil war. He intends to push you to the limit, that you will start it, and he will then crush you before you have time to organize an effective opposition.

Right now the Usurper doesn't give a crap about fiscal cliffs. He doesn't care what any of that will do to the country. His three objectives are to demoralize and destroy the conservative opposition, co-opt and corrupt the Republicans (so easy!), and then break free of the Constitution.

It seems like a dream, a mirage of unbreakable normality. Like the spring of 1914 or 1939, like the crisp fall morning eleven years ago. Like our exceptional, beautiful country, the rarest gem in all of history, is so big and strong, nothing can happen to it, everything will go on peacefully as before, we are still the shining city on the hill, and our best days are before us. Every day we make plans for next year and the years after, and can't possibly imagine or consider that any set of events will break our idyll of peace and turn all our plans to dust. I fly across the country, and see the vast strength of it and Our People, and think my fears are childish and foolish vapors. And then I remember that all civilizations crumble.

We must make new plans. We must be prepared. We must resist the Usurper and his minions. Now and every day. They have lost their faith in God, and seek to secure their lives by taking ours. We must remain true to the faiths of our fathers and mothers. The United States of America, the new nation that put its Trust in God, that brought the Blessings of Liberty to the world, must not perish. Today is not that day. Tolkein is my guide. Frodo: "I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” Lincoln is my guide: “Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right”

Posted by: John A. Fleming at December 10, 2012 11:05 PM

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 08:43 AM (zF6Iw)

214 I noticed some of the ice cream is now 1.5 quarts now. Same price as before.
Posted by: SurferDoc at December 12, 2012 08:42 AM (6H6FZ)

I stopped buying that stuff unless it's a two fer at the food lion.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:43 AM (3Y7RV)

215 >Obama recognizes Syrian rebels.


and it only took 40,000 dead for President Fuckstick- obviously a man of towering intellect- to side with the people that side with al Qaeda

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 12, 2012 08:43 AM (8sCoq)

216 Do they think people aren't going to notice their holiday baking is all fucked up?


It's been happening for years. Any old recipes that call for a bag or box or can of something are going to be screwed up big time. Convert the measurements to weight, either oz's or nubans (whatever they call that god forsaken metric shit) now.

The package size reduction are to help you, because now the bag isn't so heavy to carry home. plus we can keep the prices the same for the poor comsumer. WIN-WIN!!!

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 08:44 AM (Q6u7O)

217 We ought to just shoot the satellite down and tell Pyongyang to pound sand for it. The Norks could use a good bitch-slap.

It would be awesome if we still had a space shuttle to fly up there and paint a shitload of graffiti all over it.

"Why so ronery?"

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:44 AM (GQ8sn)

218 In 1954 you could get a new Studebaker 3R5 pickup truck for $1372, without taxes.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/byw46mh
Put some stake sides on it, and your calves would ride in style. T-bone steak was high: $0.95/#.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 08:44 AM (1V6Pv)

219 Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 08:38 AM (3ZtZW)

"Cheerleaders, bacon and beer"? Sign me up Komrad!

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:45 AM (9ScGj)

220 Beg to differ. The bill that was shot down would have added another criteria that would have to have been met in order to use force - the 'overt act.' As it stands it is more or less the 'reasonable person' situation, - did you fear for your life? Yes. Alrighty then. Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (fWAjv)

I know, but I read the case law on that and it's not as rock solid as the castle laws in say, Texas or Florida.

If I lived in Danville, I'd be pretty comfortable with dropping someone with the VA law as is. But I live in Alexandria....so I am not as confident. There's just too much wiggle room for a camera-whore Commonwealth's Attorney to ignore.

Ask George Zimmerman what that scenario looks like.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:45 AM (sbV1u)

221 "The Democrats really have done a number on us. Not only have have Democrats seized the mantle of tax cutting, but Obama is demanding that Republicans, not himself and not Democrats, take the lead on picking what are sure to be portrayed as "unpopular" spending cuts."

The GOP reminds me of Chess grandmaster and innovator Nimzovitch, who once swept his pieces from the board after a tournament game loss to an opponent known for his unimaginative mediocrity, and shouted, "I can't believe I'm losing to this man!"

We have the talented leadership and the winning ideas. Our political philosophy is real-world and fact-based, not Utopian or fallacious. Yet here we are, outmaneuvered by a pack of corrupt machine politicians and Marxist ideologues whose appeal lies in its ability to lie convincingly and play to the basest human instincts and emotions. It's discouraging, I know, but it isn't forever. Truth will out in the end.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2012 08:45 AM (ptcFO)

222
Meanwhile North Korea successfully launched a satellite.


No fear, everyone! I heard this morning on the news that this successful satellite launch will bring about another heavy wave of sanctions against the NoKo's. THAT'LL teach 'em! I hope you all have bought all the North Korean goods and services you'll need for a while, because you're not going to have a chance pretty soon!

What's that? Oh, we don't buy NoKo products? Oh.

Well, hey, at least we'll be able to stop sending them food and money! That'll starve 'em out!

You know, until we're guilted into giving them more food again, which they'll immediately give to their political and military classes while continuing to fuck the general population.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 12, 2012 08:46 AM (4df7R)

223
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:41 AM (sbV1u)

I'll give them a run. Thanks.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:46 AM (fwARV)

224 Someday i'll learn not to consume 1/4 of a jar of Jalapenos with dinner, my asshole feels like the business end of a blowtorch.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:47 AM (3Y7RV)

225 I think it would be a good idea for anyone having any iota of support for unions to get a good look at the outside and inside of a union hall. You know the 'footprint' of a 'big box' store like a Lowes or Home Depot? Bigger then that. I had to go to a funeral 'party' once inside of one, and it felt like all the union dudes looked at me like a traitor in their camp, I guess since I don't have an ass the size of a semi trailer. Projection screen was probably 40 foot wide by 30 feet high. One hundred foot long bar at the back with four different beers. Fully stocked liquor. Seating for about 500, I'd guess.

I f'in hate unions.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 12, 2012 08:47 AM (feFL6)

226 Someday i'll learn not to consume 1/4 of a jar of Jalapenos with dinner, my asshole feels like the business end of a blowtorch.

Let it burn.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (GQ8sn)

227 199 Last night Crowder challenged the guy that sucker punched him to an MMA battle for Charity. I thought Crowder might be a pussy, I may have been wrong.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:39 AM (3Y7RV)


Crowder regularly puts his face and name out there tearing down some of the militant left's most sacred cows with humor and smarts. Without even going into strength, he's clearly not a pussy.

I'd put my money on him in a fight.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (4df7R)

228 >>Stanford saxophonists make the best free safeties...

Heh, heh, heh.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (SUKHu)

229 @224 Are you saying today's the day you'll call Reggie?

Posted by: Thorvald at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (1V6Pv)

230 Someday i'll learn not to consume 1/4 of a jar of Jalapenos with dinner, my asshole feels like the business end of a blowtorch. Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:47 AM (3Y7RV)

Go on.

Posted by: Barney Frank at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (sbV1u)

231 Crowder regularly puts his face and name out there tearing down some of
the militant left's most sacred cows with humor and smarts. Without even
going into strength, he's clearly not a pussy.



I'd put my money on him in a fight.


You know, I just had a thought....

He may be our "Andrew Breitbart" now.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (GQ8sn)

232 So the left is opposed to free loading now? Or just the union left?
----
The GOP should seize the opportunity to back the unions on this issue. That will garner some of the union vote in future elections (the solid Democrat union vote is what cost Romney the election) for the GOP candidate. In addition, union members will begin reading libertarian literature and join the right in whittling down the welfare state and the free loading it engenders.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (eEfYn)

233 The turning point is when the purple T-shirts disappear, and it becomes button-down shirts with epaulets.

Yeah, like you're going to get any of those lardballs and their moobs in a button-down. Maybe if they leave the top two buttons open. Maybe.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (hO8IJ)

234 Let it burn. Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (GQ8sn)

Thread winner, right there.

Context is everything.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (sbV1u)

235 Last year, I really started paying attention to food prices...

...and now I shop at different stores. There is a huge difference in prices between some of them.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 08:50 AM (SUKHu)

236 I have posted this quite a few times, I do all of the food shopping for my family.

Four years ago a small trip would run me $30 and a large trip would run $50, today a small trip is $50 and a large trip is $90.


So a small trip has gone up 67% and a large trip has risen 80%

I use my debit card exclusively so I have actually done a weekly chart of the last 208 weeks.

The lack of reporting on this "hidden" inflation is a crime and is intentional.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 12, 2012 08:51 AM (RrD4h)

237 You know, I just had a thought....He may be our "Andrew Breitbart" now.
Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (GQ8sn)


If not the sole AB, he's certainly one of the lieutenants of his army.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 12, 2012 08:52 AM (4df7R)

238 Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:48 AM (GQ8sn)


Empathy, what a concept.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:52 AM (3Y7RV)

239 Any old recipes that call for a bag or box or can of something are going to be screwed up big time. Convert the measurements to weight

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 08:44 AM (Q6u7O)



We.Are.So.Fucked.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:52 AM (fWAjv)

240 washington nearsider, Clarkes out in Warrenton, free when you buy ammo, not fancy

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2012 08:52 AM (UjSt7)

241 If not the sole AB, he's certainly one of the lieutenants of his army.

Not sure if there's another "Happy Warrior" who does the things that AB did and enjoys doing it week after week, messing with libtards.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (GQ8sn)

242 We have the talented leadership


Please name those you believe are talented leaders and provide examples of their talented leadership. No, really, I'm interested to know what evidence you have to back your assertion that the GOP has talented leadership.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (VtjlW)

243 And now Jamie Foxx too? Look, I don't care what he accomplishes in his life, he'll always be just another nagger in my eyes. I mean seriously, he never stops !

Posted by: Randy Marsh at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (bS6uW)

244 Empathy, what a concept.

LOL! Sorry, it was too perfect.

Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:55 AM (GQ8sn)

245 Let's see which side is serious about tax reform If the Democrats agree to the following, then they can carry the mantle of tax cutting.

Cap mortgage deductions so that the rich can't write off more than the average (blue state property values are higher than red state), end the deduction for previously paid state and local taxes (blue state Dems may find themselves suddenly in favor of tax reform when they hear this one), and cap personal deductions in the aggregate (aimed, again, at the wealthy Dems).

Otherwise, I'm not buying it. SCOTUS ruled that Obamacare is a tax. Several prominent Democrats have admitted we must raise taxes, even on the middle class. If they want their grand bargain, they can give a little, too, or to hell with them.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 12, 2012 08:56 AM (i0vBR)

246 233
The turning point is when the purple T-shirts disappear, and it becomes button-down shirts with epaulets.
Yeah,
like you're going to get any of those lardballs and their moobs in a
button-down. Maybe if they leave the top two buttons open. Maybe.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (hO8IJ)

I thought the AoSHQ Style Guide refers to them as "pus guts"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 08:56 AM (Jcd0S)

247 Bannion!


You're in Alexandria? Dude we've prob been within a few miles of each other. I used to live up in Laurel. Went to school in DC. (We've had that convo.) I was up in Gainesville, VA in June for my BIL's wedding.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 08:56 AM (da5Wo)

248 If I lived in Danville, I'd be pretty comfortable with dropping someone with the VA law as is. But I live in Alexandria....so I am not as confident. There's just too much wiggle room for a camera-whore Commonwealth's Attorney to ignore.

Ask George Zimmerman what that scenario looks like.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:45 AM (sbV1u)

True, true. (waving to you from Prince William County)

Hey, why do you go to Rockville for a range?

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:56 AM (fWAjv)

249 Any old recipes that call for a bag or box or can of something are going to be screwed up big time. Convert the measurements to weight

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 08:44 AM (Q6u7O)



You know, I never once thought about that. That's going to be a huge problem in baking because baking is chemistry and messing up the proportions will pretty much insure that the recipe will not come out right.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 08:57 AM (VtjlW)

250 Please name those you believe are talented leaders and provide examples of their talented leadership. No, really, I'm interested to know what evidence you have to back your assertion that the GOP has talented leadership.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (VtjlW)

Agreed, not that there isn't any conservative talent, but most have demanding jobs and families. also a little know thing called priorities. Our greatest potential talents love their friends and family too much to drag them through the shit. This is both a negative and a positive.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:57 AM (3Y7RV)

251 Please name those you believe are talented leaders
and provide examples of their talented leadership. No, really, I'm
interested to know what evidence you have to back your assertion that
the GOP has talented leadership.





Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (VtjlW)



I see someone else has drawn the ire of The Chick.

*wipes brows in relief*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 08:58 AM (da5Wo)

252
LOL! Sorry, it was too perfect.
Posted by: EC at December 12, 2012 08:55 AM (GQ8sn)

Indeed, I LOL.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:58 AM (3Y7RV)

253 Who was the guy who called obama a liar during the State of the Union speech? Let's put him in charge of the GOP.

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:58 AM (9ScGj)

254 I track everything in quick books, my food inflation is incredible. Part of that is growing kids, but I have also been merciless in cost cutting. I haven't found the ethnic stores to be cheaper, my big savings are Restaurant Depot and recognizing what stores are cheaper on specific items. For example, Giant is significantly cheaper on Country Style Pork Ribs then Shoppers or Safeway - why? I dont know. Milk is cheaper at 7-11, wtf.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (CofEF)

255 @253

Joe Wilson

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (RrD4h)

256 Made an interesting discovery today. In the milk aisle, Bailey's now has a non-alcoholic coffee creamer in the Irish Cream flavor. I found that if you buy one of these, pour the contents down the drain, refill the bottle with actual Bailey's Irish Cream, and use it in your coffee it tastes very good, and makes the day seem not so bad after all.


And people don't look at you so critically either.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (Cnqmv)

257 Who was the guy who called obama a liar during the State of the Union speech? Let's put him in charge of the GOP.
Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 08:58 AM (9ScGj)


What's Tommy Franks up to these days?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (3Y7RV)

258 232
So the left is opposed to free loading now? Or just the union left?
----
The
GOP should seize the opportunity to back the unions on this issue. That
will garner some of the union vote in future elections (the solid
Democrat union vote is what cost Romney the election) for the GOP
candidate. In addition, union members will begin reading libertarian
literature and join the right in whittling down the welfare state and
the free loading it engenders.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 08:49 AM (eEfYn)

Colorado or Washington state? Cuz you sure are smokin' something...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 09:00 AM (Jcd0S)

259
Posted by: John A. Fleming at December 10, 2012 11:05 PM

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 12, 2012 08:43 AM (zF6Iw)



Thanks for the post.

There is a news correspondent up on Canada's conservative news site Sun News TV. Brian Lilley.

He seems to be friends with Glenn Beck and the folks at Breitbart.

Canada is facing the same problems that the US is, in terms of liberal indoctrination, etc.

Last night, he had Ben Shapiro on from Brietbart about how to fight back the culture war. The setup segment and Shapiro's segment were both worth watching. Also, Brian Lilley has a blog where he lists organizations (in Canada) to join to counter the heavily organized and funded organizations on the left. This is also what Bill Whittle suggested. A counter culture. Take back the institutions that made our country great.

Here are all the links:

Get Engaged
http://tinyurl.com/czs9j25

Shapiro Segment: United Right Must Be Happy Warriors
http://tinyurl.com/cq4bett

Brian Lilley's blog (which includes list of organizations to get engaged with)
http://blogs.canoe.ca/lilleyspad/author/brian-lilley/


The answer to fighting back.

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 09:00 AM (LpQbZ)

260 Hey Randy; Go back to Cos and on the way, fuck yourself.



Cleanup on aisle douchebag.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at December 12, 2012 09:01 AM (+VMZ0)

261 You know, I never once thought about that. That's going to be a huge
problem in baking because baking is chemistry and messing up the
proportions will pretty much insure that the recipe will not come out
right.



Especially if you using one of your mothers or grandmothers recipes. Going to screw up big time. Hell, even the one I use for making Brandy Alexanders for Christmas was screwed up and that's only 8 years old. When they reduced all of the "half gallons" of ice cream to 1.5 quarts, the booze to ice cream ratio is off...Well, to be truthful, I like it better that way.

Honey, I just followed the recipe!

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 09:01 AM (Q6u7O)

262 And people don't look at you so critically either.
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (Cnqmv)

That's the move from amateur alky to pro.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 09:02 AM (3Y7RV)

263 Hey, why do you go to Rockville for a range Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 08:56 AM (fWAjv)

Oh, I just ended up there because I had a buddy at Walter Reed who used that range, and we'd shoot together. It just became routine.

You know of a decent one closer to Alexandria?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:02 AM (sbV1u)

264 Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (Cnqmv)

I needed a good laugh. Thanks!

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 09:04 AM (9ScGj)

265 my big savings are Restaurant Depot and recognizing what stores are cheaper on specific items. Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2012 08:59 AM (CofEF)

Jean....the one on Eisenhower??? I thought that was limited to only those in the trade?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:04 AM (sbV1u)

266 You know of a decent one closer to Alexandria?


Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:02 AM (sbV1u)

I'm in Alexandria as well. The NRA range is about 20 minutes out, Rockville is damn near an hour... So is Clark's down in Warrenton.

Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 09:04 AM (fwARV)

267 I see someone else has drawn the ire of The Chick.

*wipes brows in relief*
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 08:58 AM (da5Wo)



Awww, it's so cute that you thought that was ire!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:04 AM (VtjlW)

268 You know of a decent one closer to Alexandria?


Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:02 AM (sbV1u)

Blue Ridge Arsenal in Chantilly

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 09:05 AM (Cnqmv)

269 I stopped buying that stuff unless it's a two fer at the food lion.

Bought an ice cream maker over the summer. If I use store brand 'half and half' instead of heavy cream and milk*, I can get the cost comparable to store ice cream on sale. Taste is better, and it's actually a denser product, so in actuality it's cheaper. They now whip the living hell out of store ice cream so that you're buying more air. Pick up a container of store ice cream now and try to remember what it weighed years ago. You're not getting stronger, the net product is less.

And the best part is I can add Kahlua to the mix. The right booze and ice cream is an unbeatable flavor combination.


* I 'did the math' on fat percentages compared to an ice cream recipe from about 50 years ago and they're almost exactly equivalent.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 12, 2012 09:05 AM (feFL6)

270 Any old recipes that call for a bag or box or can of something are going to be screwed up big time.


I've already been experiencing this. Especially with canned tomatoes (whole, crushed, diced, stewed, w/e).

I always have to make up the differences with either fresh tomatoes (I usually have some on hand in small amounts) or with other smaller cans.

Everything is smaller, now. And, more expensive than ever before.

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 09:06 AM (LpQbZ)

271 Awww, it's so cute that you thought that was ire!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:04 AM (VtjlW)


Shit.

*starts sweating again*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 09:06 AM (da5Wo)

272 * I 'did the math' on fat percentages compared to an ice cream recipe from about 50 years ago and they're almost exactly equivalent.
Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 12, 2012 09:05 AM (feFL6)

Hmm, I'll have to look into that. One of my fondest childhood memories was my cousins and I cranking the handle of the Ice Cream maker on Grandpas front porch.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 09:07 AM (3Y7RV)

273 When is Bob Costas going to run for office?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 12, 2012 09:08 AM (DoZD+)

274 And the best part is I can add Kahlua to the mix. The right booze and ice cream is an unbeatable flavor combination.

This is a good idea, hehe.

I end up adding Kirsch to my frozen yogurts, etc, because it is supposed to help keep it soft.

I wonder if the Kahlua would do the same?

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 09:08 AM (LpQbZ)

275 But, If you make your own ice cream, are you getting you RDA of,

corn syrup, guar gum,
carob bean gum, carrageenan, xanthan gum, natural flavors (with vanilla
extract), annatto color
?


HMMM, mister smarty pants?



Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 09:09 AM (Q6u7O)

276 Hmmm. I don't know whether to be offend or flattered. The Grinch just came on the radio in the office and someone yelled out "Hey, it's your theme song!"

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:09 AM (VtjlW)

277 Colorado or Washington state? Cuz you sure are smokin' something...


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 12, 2012 09:00 AM (Jcd0S)
------Nah. It's way too early to cascade into a Rocky Mtn high. Just some satire.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 09:09 AM (eEfYn)

278 Hmmm. I don't know whether to be offend or flattered. The Grinch just came on the radio in the office and someone yelled out "Hey, it's your theme song!"
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:09 AM (VtjlW)

Well honey, when your adress is Mt. Crumpet.....

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 09:10 AM (3Y7RV)

279 >>>Yeah, like you're going to get any of those lardballs and their moobs in a button-down. Maybe if they leave the top two buttons open. Maybe.

In Soviet America, Fridays dress down on YOU

Posted by: uterus cannon at December 12, 2012 09:10 AM (3ZtZW)

280 OSP, oh yes, I remember spending all the summers of my youth cranking on the old icecream handle....sometimes three times in one day!

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (9ScGj)

281
276
Hmmm. I don't know whether to be offend or flattered. The Grinch
just came on the radio in the office and someone yelled out "Hey, it's
your theme song!"

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:09 AM (VtjlW)


I would just go with the default position. Stompy them.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (da5Wo)

282 Speaking as someone from the Indianapolis area, I am just grateful that
Luck has given us a decent season. Had he been a flop, we would have had
to listen to the caterwauling of the Manning fans for the next 5 years.


Since he was in college I knew he was the real deal. He is one of those special players that seem to come along every 5 or 6 years. First ballot HOF'mer.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (ZOf1l)

283 You know of a decent one closer to Alexandria?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:02 AM (sbV1u)

Blue Ridge Arsenal isn't bad. A tad small though. (And the owner voted for TFG so I haven't been back there.) I'm trying to get into the Quantico range but heard the list is LONG.

So no, don't know of a better one closer to Alexandria. Have you been to the NRA HQ?

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (fWAjv)

284 >>corn syrup

Found that crap in several brands of sausages I was buying.

My husband thinks I'm a conspiracy theorist when I start in on the subject.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (SUKHu)

285 Blue Ridge Arsenal in Chantilly Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 09:05 AM (Cnqmv)

I'll check it out, but hell, that's farther than Rockville for me.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:12 AM (sbV1u)

286 Posted by: typo dynamofo at December 12, 2012 09:01 AM (+VMZ0)

It's a well-known South Park bit, dumb ass. Randy Marsh is a cartoon character who screwed up on Wheel of Fortune when given the word puzzle Drudge is using. And it's Kos, not Cos. I'm not from there and I'm not going there. Sheesh.

Posted by: Randy Marsh at December 12, 2012 09:12 AM (bS6uW)

287 Well honey, when your adress is Mt. Crumpet.....
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 09:10 AM (3Y7RV)



Oh pish posh.


I would like to point out that I have always been on Team Max.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:12 AM (VtjlW)

288 Randy bS6uW, you shouldn't need reminding there are lines not to be danced around.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2012 09:12 AM (Xefrb)

289 So no, don't know of a better one closer to Alexandria. Have you been to the NRA HQ? Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (fWAjv)

Haven't been there yet but I hear good things about it. I was thinking about checking it out after the holidays

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:13 AM (sbV1u)

290 Alexandria. Posted by: washington nearsider at December 12, 2012 08:05 AM (fwARV)

Ditto.

At least the Potomac is a nice moat. All we have to do is pry up the Metro tracks from L'Enfant to Pentagon.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 08:10 AM (sbV1u)

Ditto again. And I've got a buddy who works with me in DC who lives in Fredericksburg. His place could be a good fall back. We figure when it hits the fan we'll avoid a lot of the mass hysteria by hiking down the VRE line.

Posted by: Mainah at December 12, 2012 09:13 AM (659DL)

291 >> I don't know whether to be offend or flattered.

Then you should shout "What's that supposed to mean?!" while stomping.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 09:13 AM (SUKHu)

292 Randy bS6uW, you shouldn't need reminding there are lines not to be danced around.
Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2012 09:12 AM (Xefrb)


Agreed, I like to think I'm a guest in Ace's house, cause well, I am.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 09:14 AM (3Y7RV)

293 2qt ice cream now 1.5qt BUT it costs the same
No inflation, see?

Posted by: Far Post at December 12, 2012 09:15 AM (7trj5)

294 Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 09:13 AM (SUKHu)
---
SUKHu? That's nice.

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 09:15 AM (eEfYn)

295 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (VtjlW)

As usual, AtC asks a very pertinent question, namely who are the competent leaders in the Republican Party. I would add, I can't think of any real standouts in the conservative movement either. My vision of 2016 is the the non-overtly-liberal constituency will be scrambling like mad to find a candidate, any candidate, that appears to have an IQ > 100, is able to read from a teleprompter, and won't be labeled as a right wing extremist by the MFM (until close to the election).


With leaders like Boehner and McConnell, and consultants like Rove, we don't need enemies in the MFM or the Dem party, we've got them in house.

I just hope DeMint has some long-term (actually about 18 months is all he's got) strategic plans for his Heritage gig, because that is the only hope I see, unless of course we nominate Jeb Bush by acclamation!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 09:15 AM (Cnqmv)

296 Found that crap in several brands of sausages I was buying.


A lot of sausage recipes call for a smmmmallll amount of sugar to be added to offset the saltiness of the recipe anyway. What they are doing with the corn syrup is sweetening the sausage PLUS bulking it a little (As much as they can get away with) so they can reduce the meat and fat that is supposes to be in it. Especially and reduced fat products.

Posted by: Bruce at December 12, 2012 09:15 AM (Q6u7O)

297 Then you should shout "What's that supposed to mean?!" while stomping.
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 09:13 AM (SUKHu)



That is a good idea. I'll need to limber up some first. brb stretching


Oh and I'm right there next to you wearing the tin hat on the corn syrup thing. I've seen it listed in ingredients for stuff and my response is why, just why? There's no possible need for it in absolutely everything.




Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:15 AM (VtjlW)

298
NRA HQ range is very nice. Clean. Good ROs. Hot. Fifty yards.

If you go when it's quiet, they won't kick you out unless somebody is waiting. I suggest Friday nights.

The all-you-can-eat pricing is a good deal.

http://www.nrahq.org/shootingrange/nrahqrange/fees.asp

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 12, 2012 09:16 AM (V3kRK)

299 Oh, I just ended up there because I had a buddy at Walter Reed who used that range, and we'd shoot together. It just became routine.

You know of a decent one closer to Alexandria?

Sean- ever been to Sharpshooters in Lorton? It's small, but when I went it wasn't too crowded.

Posted by: Mainah at December 12, 2012 09:16 AM (659DL)

300 lease name those you believe are talented leaders and provide examples of their talented leadership. No, really, I'm interested to know what evidence you have to back your assertion that the GOP has talented leadership.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 08:54 AM (VtjlW)

The usual trinity of Rubio, Ryan, and Jindal come immediately to mind. There are up-and-comers like Martinez, as well. Others. All of whom are more than a match for whomever the Democrats choose to field.

I don't ascribe to that 'Let It Burn' bullshit. All Drew is advocating is a GOP party split and a sure slide into irrelevance and defeat. Right now, the only thing standing between Obama and a complete stealth socialist transformation of the United States is the lowly, much-maligned GOP. Common sense indicates the best course is to strengthen the GOP, not tear it apart in the name of ideological purity.

Oh, and yeah: Drew's 'Let It Burn' essay is gaining support from all kinds of interesting people, like the batshit crazy NWO, ZOG conspiracy, black helicopter crowd who frequent the American Resistance Movement website. Check it out yourself.

If you find yourself on the same side of an issue as paranoid conspiracy theorists who stay up at night figuring out how to make home-made chlorine gas for use on fellow Americans, you're on the wrong fucking side.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2012 09:17 AM (ptcFO)

301 Bannion! You're in Alexandria? Dude we've prob been within a few miles of each other. I used to live up in Laurel. Went to school in DC. (We've had that convo.)


Well, now you know where to find me.

Remember, I only drink the very expensive hooch.

As long as you're buying that is.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:17 AM (sbV1u)

302 One of my fondest childhood memories was my cousins and I cranking the handle of the Ice Cream maker on Grandpas front porch.

I had one of them for years, but unless you get the salt to ice ratio down exactly you end up with a slurpy. The Cuisinart I bought has a bowl you keep in the freezer all the time. Throw the ingredients together, dump it in the bowl, turn the machine on, and 20 minutes later you pull the handle and it swirls into a cone or into a bowl. On the side it has three containers for choc chips, or those little colored things -- I don't know what they're called, but kids love them. Pull any of the switches, or all three, and it mixes that stuff in with the ice cream.

I think I paid around 70 bucks, but it looks like its built to last. Plus ice cream and Kahlua, did I mention that?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at December 12, 2012 09:18 AM (feFL6)

303 I shoot in the woods by my house, until the neighbor kids show up and out shoot me. Little bastards, I love em anyway.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 12, 2012 09:18 AM (3Y7RV)

304 Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (fWAjv)

Didn't realize that Blue Ridge management was in the tank for TFG (makes no sense), so it's NRA (of which I have heard good things) or Clark Bros in Warrenton.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 09:18 AM (Cnqmv)

305 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 12, 2012 09:16 AM (V3kRK)

Great tip. Thanks. Now I will definitely check it out in Janaury.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:18 AM (sbV1u)

306 >>SUKHu? That's nice.

Yeh, I've had that one for a while. Got lots of responses from "Mr. Hu" at first, for some reason...

>>A lot of sausage recipes call for a smmmmallll amount of sugar

Saw that it was at 1 gram or less on some.

Just really hate having to check the label on MEATto avoid that crap.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 09:19 AM (SUKHu)

307 No Republican has won the Presidency since 1984 except those....

JEB in 2016!

Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 09:19 AM (eEfYn)

308 I shoot in the woods by my house, until the neighbor kids show up and out shoot me. Little bastards, I love em anyway.

Some young 'ens can really shoot. They still have sharp eyes and steady hands.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 09:20 AM (bS6uW)

309 My husband thinks I'm a conspiracy theorist when I start in on the subject.
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 12, 2012 09:11 AM (SUKHu)



There are corn derivatives in A LOT of food. It's not a conspiracy.



new thread up, btw

Posted by: beach dozen at December 12, 2012 09:20 AM (LpQbZ)

310 Well, now you know where to find me.

Remember, I only drink the very expensive hooch.

As long as you're buying that is.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:17 AM (sbV1u)


The guest buys? Huh.
*shrugs*

AoSHQ Rules I guess. I'm easy btw. You set a bottle of Jack Daniels and a 2 liter of Diet Coke in front of me and I'm a happy man.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 09:20 AM (da5Wo)

311 I have to meet this guy who owns a firing range and voted for the JEF. Isn't that like a Japanese fisherman joining Greenpeace....

Posted by: Icedog at December 12, 2012 09:21 AM (9ScGj)

312 JEB in 2016!


Posted by: RioBravo at December 12, 2012 09:19 AM (eEfYn)

Electable AND Inevitable!

Posted by: Karl Rover at December 12, 2012 09:21 AM (Cnqmv)

313 AoSHQ Rules I guess. I'm easy btw. You set a bottle
of Jack Daniels and a 2 liter of Diet Coke in front of me and I'm a
happy man. Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 09:20 AM (da5Wo)



LOL. That was me 10 years ago.

Then someone introduced me to craft bourbon.

Bastards!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 12, 2012 09:23 AM (sbV1u)

314 You set a bottle of Jack Daniels and a 2 liter of Diet Coke in front of me and I'm a happy man.

Coke Zero instead? No cals just like diet but tastes better? Just a thought.

Existential musing: two-liter bottles of soda suck compared to cans.

Posted by: Italian Menace at December 12, 2012 09:23 AM (bS6uW)

315 Re Illinois: How would you get your firearm into your home if you couldn't have it outside of your home? I loathe those bastards with the heat of a thousand suns. Domestic enemies fo' sure.

Posted by: torabora at December 12, 2012 09:23 AM (I+Z9T)

316 Coke Zero instead? No cals just like diet but tastes better? Just a thought.




Not a Coke Zero fan. I've been drinking DC for a quarter century now, changing the taste is.....bleh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 12, 2012 09:25 AM (da5Wo)

317 Stay outta da Bush's!.

Posted by: Jesse 'payme' Jackson at December 12, 2012 09:25 AM (I+Z9T)

318 Didn't realize that Blue Ridge management was in the tank for TFG (makes no sense), so it's NRA (of which I have heard good things) or Clark Bros in Warrenton.
Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 12, 2012 09:18 AM (Cnqmv)

Actually for a short term business decision it makes sense. But still, F em.

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 09:25 AM (fWAjv)

319 I would like to point out that I have always been on Team Max.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 12, 2012 09:12 AM (VtjlW)


AtC/Max 2016?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 12, 2012 09:27 AM (4df7R)

320 And I don't know how he voted in the recent election.

http://tinyurl.com/a26c2gd

Posted by: RWC at December 12, 2012 09:28 AM (fWAjv)

321 I heard Crowder is skilled in Ju Jitsu.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 12, 2012 09:57 AM (i0vBR)

322 If you find yourself on the same side of an issue as paranoid conspiracy
theorists who stay up at night figuring out how to make home-made
chlorine gas for use on fellow Americans...


You have two incorrect assumptions here:
1) figuring out how to make chlorine gas from household chemicals doesn't require one to stay up at night. It's easy enough to figure out when you do it by accident once.

2) You're assuming that these douchebags are still "fellow Americans".

Posted by: GMan at December 12, 2012 11:02 AM (sxq57)

323 2) You're assuming that these douchebags are still "fellow Americans".
Posted by: GMan at December 12, 2012 11:02 AM (sxq57)

I dunno, hero. In my book, fantasizing about mass murdering douchebags using poison gas makes one, by definition, a douchebag.

These extremist, apocalyptic fantasies remind me of what the Left was spewing after Bush-Gore. It's disturbing as hell. I don't like seeing it on the Right. You shouldn't either.

Posted by: troyriser at December 12, 2012 11:21 AM (ptcFO)

324 >

Because clients NEVER do stupid things that require us to make stupid arguments to save their stupid asses. Just sayin'.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at December 12, 2012 11:31 AM (kht8M)






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