State Department "Security" Officers In Benghazi Were Unarmed

An exclusive from Kerry Picket, now at Breitbart.

Their weapons were in another building. After the attack started, some of them went to other building to get weapons, but all but one was prevented from re-entering the consulate.

“From the accounts I read, those guys were not ready. When the attack came that night, they had to go back to the other room and grab their weapons. Then the worse part about it was they never even returned to be with the Ambassador. One returned to be with the Ambassador with his rifle. The other two went back to where there were [sic] barracks. And two stayed in that same building where there were radios and other weapons and the safe and other stuff was there.

There were no shots fired in return. On the embassy property, just the embassy property, none of those security agents blasted a single bullet from a single pistol or rifle at all in defense of the Ambassador—nothing.”

And she has this solid. This isn't scuttlebutt.

This was the security situation Obama and Hillary engineered -- five dudes, with no time together to form any sort of group cohesion, without guns. The serious military security had been sent away in August, over the objections of the consulate's security chief.

BTW, Word geekery: Why did they add [sic] after "there were barracks"? I'm guessing it's because they think the noun doesn't agree with the verb, like the noun is singular but the verb is plural. But isn't "barracks" used interchangeably to mean both a barrack and a cluster of barracks?

If you're a military person with some word geek skills, let me know. I think Breitbart got this wrong.

Not be confused with "Barack," meaning "a stuttering cluster***k of a miserable failure," of course.

Oh, Here's Another Military Word-Use Question: "Bivouac" means a temporary camp, right? So is it used to distinguish between a more permanent, more structured camp (which is still pretty temporary)? Like a "camp" would be a more serious shelter you intend to stay in for a while, while a bivouac is a quickie thing you build overnight, en route to the place you intend to camp?

Or is it just jargon?


Posted by: Ace at 01:55 PM



Comments

1 Arguing English grammar? Here?

Heh.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 11, 2012 01:56 PM (PMGbu)

2 Grammar questions? Military spending involved?



This looks like a post for Moo Moo >_> C'mon down, Moo, regale us with your wisdom.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 11, 2012 01:57 PM (O/vys)

3 This has little relevance to any Kardashian, so I'm ignoring it.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 01:58 PM (Lxw+T)

4
We used to have a long time commenter here with "sic" as part of their AoS handle.

I forget who, though.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 11, 2012 01:59 PM (jUytm)

5 Free shit trumps 3 month old, covered up incompetence.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:59 PM (XkWWK)

6
So sick dude (sic).

Posted by: SnowSun at December 11, 2012 01:59 PM (UAUr6)

7 Where is our resident drama queen

Posted by: alex at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (uFY4s)

8
the sic is after "where there were". Before barracks.


"Where there were" implies past tense..... as in the barracks are no longer there.

The proper sentence could be written : "The other two went back to the barracks."

Posted by: fixerupper at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (nELVU)

9 English grammar - Let it burn!

Posted by: Flounder at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (Kkt/i)

10 Come on, be serious. You want outrage? Let a bank raise an ATM fee by twenty-five cents. Then you'll see water cannons, bags of burning dog poop and gay bikers with crossbows.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (Lxw+T)

11 The U.S. marines guarding the U.S. base in Lebanon in the 1980's were unarmed as well. 243 dead. I guess both D presidents and R presidents don't learn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

Posted by: Jake at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (8816I)

12 This is starting to look like straight up murder of Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (VtjlW)

13 Ace, I guess the jackasses that pointed out your typos yesterday got under your skin.

Posted by: L, elle at December 11, 2012 02:02 PM (0PiQ4)

14 Lets be smart and repeat the 1930's

Posted by: alex at December 11, 2012 02:02 PM (uFY4s)

15 State Department "Security" Officers

Perhaps they were armed with blankets.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:03 PM (Lxw+T)

16 What's Benghazi?

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 02:03 PM (fWAjv)

17 Actually the marines were armed, except their rifles didn't have magazines inserted and no rounds in the chamber, which is the same as being unarmed, as far as I'm concerned. Thank Reagan for that.

Posted by: Jake at December 11, 2012 02:03 PM (8816I)

18 "where there were barracks"

Okay.

"where there was a barracks."

Also, Okay.

"Barracks"- it's the "elk" of building structures.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 11, 2012 02:03 PM (RuUvx)

19 a barracks and a cluster of barracks?

FIFY

Yes Barracks is both singular and plural.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 11, 2012 02:04 PM (MJ7uZ)

20 I am still in abject disbelief that the country at large chose to ignore the Benghazi debacle and re-elect the SCOAMT.



As Hollowpoint said last thread, We the People are the disease - Obama, Reid et. al are merely symptoms.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 11, 2012 02:04 PM (O/vys)

21 The suckers of cock belong in prison, or the gibbet.

Posted by: dick cheese at December 11, 2012 02:04 PM (QupBk)

22 Isolationism jn interesting times is such a good idea

Posted by: alex at December 11, 2012 02:04 PM (uFY4s)

23 I think they were armed with spitballs.

Posted by: Zell Miller at December 11, 2012 02:05 PM (0PiQ4)

24 The operative military jargon for that situation is FUBAR and SNAFU.

Posted by: maddogg at December 11, 2012 02:05 PM (OlN4e)

25 There is no such thing as a "barrack". "Barracks" is a plural singular noun, used like "pants". Please don't be the ass*ole that tells me about using "pant", as in pantsuit. I am talking about acceptable colloquial language.

Posted by: higg at December 11, 2012 02:05 PM (zLQ9q)

26 What's Benghazi?>>

It's what you get when you spell Bazzinga wrong.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 11, 2012 02:05 PM (81UWZ)

27 There were no shots fired in return. On the embassy property, just the embassy property, none of those security agents blasted a single bullet from a single pistol or rifle at all

Bob Costas just sighed enormous relief.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:05 PM (Lxw+T)

28 >>
"Where there were" implies past tense..... as in the barracks are no longer there.

I don't think they ARE there anymore! They burned the place down.

Besides this is a quote from oral speech. We usually don't throw (sic) in such things about minor things.

Posted by: ace at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (LCRYB)

29 Not be confused with "Barack," meaning "a stuttering cluster***k of a miserable failure," of course.

That's plural, as in Legion.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (T0NGe)

30 >>>Bivouac
Think small temporary tent. As opposed to larger more difficult to put up and down tents.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (MJ7uZ)

31 An exclusive from Kerry Picket, now at Breitbart.

Their weapons were in another building. After the attack started, some of them went to other building to get weapons, but all but one was prevented from re-entering the consulate.

________________

I think I first read this in the State Department debrief that they held with reporters over the phone.

Eli Lake was one of the reporters.

They ran from where Ambassador Stevens was--and where he slept--to the TOC to get their weapons.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Why the hell if your job is to protect the Ambassador--do you not have arms located where he sleeps and lives most of the time?

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (r2PLg)

32 Hell, I expect better security at the American consulate in Ottawa, let alone Benghazi.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:07 PM (T0NGe)

33 At least no one died because our guys didn't have guns.

Posted by: Bob Costas at December 11, 2012 02:07 PM (0PiQ4)

34 interesting fact:

Kudos is a singular noun.

So you give someone a kudos.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 11, 2012 02:07 PM (RuUvx)

35 Right moomoo

Posted by: alex at December 11, 2012 02:07 PM (uFY4s)

36 14 Lets be smart and repeat the 1930's
Posted by: alex at December 11, 2012 02:02 PM (uFY4s)


Can we skip ahead to the first week of August 1945?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 02:07 PM (XkWWK)

37 We usually don't throw (sic) in such things about minor things.

Posted by: ace at December 11, 2012 02:06 PM (LCRYB)

Agreed.... but you asked.
Now.... tell me more about beave whacking

Posted by: fixerupper at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (nELVU)

38 They were all armed. Clinton made sure they had with them at all times the two that they were issued at birth, along with accompanying fingers.

Posted by: higg at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (zLQ9q)

39 for extremely large quantities of "interesting"

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (RuUvx)

40 (sic)

(sic)

(sic)

I have to stop drinking so early.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (Lxw+T)

41 If it's only one dude's bed, then it is not a barracks. A group of beds can be called barracks (pl.), even if it is in one building. I have never heard the use of "barrack"(singular) in any common usage, so I would assume that the use of "[sic]" in this case is unnecessary, or follows some extremely formalistic convention, of which I am not aware.

Posted by: Flounder at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (Kkt/i)

42 This is starting to look like straight up murder of Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with bacon cheddar fries. at December 11, 2012 02:01 PM (VtjlW)

*THIS*When it first happened I called Obama a murderer, and even my conservative friends said things like, "Let's not be overly dramatic....difficult to know what you would do....crisis situation....."And now we see.

Posted by: Pentan at December 11, 2012 02:08 PM (Ik9tJ)

43

(Sic) transit gloria mundi...



(sister of Coati Mundi?)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (XkWWK)

44 OT or maybe not so OT:

I'm back from my stepson's swearing in ceremony. He is now a Marine and in their hands. Not a dry eye in the house as the recruits filed out of the MEPS building into their vans. My stepson's girlfriend and her mother also came to see him off. She cried more than my wife I think. I hugged my stepson and told him good luck and to do well, and that he made us all very proud.

I hope in the near future he isn't stationed as security for an embassy. This is morbid, but I think he'll be safer in the middle of Afghanistan. At least he'll have another Marine watching his back.

Posted by: EC at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (GQ8sn)

45 This is starting to look like straight up murder of Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

The most interesting theory I heard was that the CIA was doing extraordinary renditions in Benghazi and it had to be covered up because Obama "banned" them with an executive order. Sounds kind of conspiracy theory to me, but I always like the liberal-hypocrisy-in-the-face-of-reality angle.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (T0NGe)

46 44 Posted by: EC at December 11, 2012 02:09 PM (GQ8sn)


G-d bless and protect him. And you and your family.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (XkWWK)

47 Where's CBD with the tasteful bare racks?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (JACEX)

48 How much security does one get for, oh I don't know, a spring break in Mehico?

Posted by: ryukyu at December 11, 2012 02:10 PM (C6XFd)

49 This is morbid, but I think he'll be safer in the middle of Afghanistan.

You might want to look at that new Army manual link in the sidebar. And keep an eye on your blood pressure.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (Lxw+T)

50 It was here--

Background Briefing on Libya

Office of the Spokesperson
Background Conference Call With Senior State Department Officials
Washington, DC
October 9, 2012


[...]

The agent with the Ambassador in the safe haven has – in addition to his side arm, has his long gun, or I should say – it’s an M4 submachine gun, standard issue. The other agents who have heard the noise in the – at the front gate run to Building B or the TOC – they run to both, two of them to Building B, one to the TOC – to get their long guns and other kit. By kit, I mean body armor, a helmet, additional munitions, that sort of thing.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/10/198791.htm

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (r2PLg)

51 Is "scissors" singular or plural?

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (Hx5uv)

52 Yes, I know it's Army and not Marines. But the rot is in the whole system.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:11 PM (Lxw+T)

53 Is "scissors" singular or plural?

They are always a pair.

Posted by: dick cheese at December 11, 2012 02:12 PM (QupBk)

54 They needed a real security expert there. A guy like Jack Bivouac.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 11, 2012 02:12 PM (kFnmp)

55 We usually don't throw (sic) in such things about minor things.

I see it more often now just to mock somebody, even if it doesn't apply. But it looks all NYT Style Guide and allows the writer to be pompous.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:12 PM (T0NGe)

56 Was there ever any word on the other survivors? Where they are, etc?

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 02:12 PM (fWAjv)

57 Yes, your understanding of the words is correct. You get a cookie...

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 11, 2012 02:12 PM (Dll6b)

58 51
Is "scissors" singular or plural?

----

I thought it was a verb......

Posted by: Ellen De Generes at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (nELVU)

59 38 higg!

Posted by: panzernashorn at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (BAnPT)

60 a bivouac is a campsite with improvised shelter

a usually temporary encampment under little or no shelter

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (8sCoq)

61 But but but the nightly news told me stingy Republicans took all the security money away from the embassies.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (Lxw+T)

62

one sciss, please.

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (UaxA0)

63
Free shit trumps 3 month old, covered up incompetence.





Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2012 01:59 PM (XkWWK)




The death of 4 Americans meant nothing, Barry's photo op over Hurricane Sandy meant more than actual results, womyn in binders meant more than a horrible economy. The country or large parts of it has become unmoored from reality

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (1Jaio)

64 That manual.... is infuriating.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (O/vys)

65 You might want to look at that new Army manual link in the sidebar. And keep an eye on your blood pressure.


But it has drawn
criticism from U.S. Marine Gen. John Allen, the top military commander
in Afghanistan, who aides said hasn't—and wouldn't—endorse the manual as
written. Gen. Allen also rejected a proposed foreword that Army
officials drafted in his name.


For some reason, this is not surprising to me. Leave it to the Marines to have some basic fucking decency.

Posted by: EC at December 11, 2012 02:14 PM (GQ8sn)

66 If it's only one dude's bed, then it is not a barracks.

Sometimes it is.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 11, 2012 02:14 PM (T0NGe)

67 however, 'blasted' a bullet is Over the Top.


the only thing in the military which gets blasted is various individuals during the half hour before closing time at the NCO Club

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 11, 2012 02:14 PM (Dll6b)

68 >
Is "scissors" singular or plural?



They are always a pair.


so, 2 scissorses X X

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (8sCoq)

69 Ace,
This is a "Smart Military Blog" (TM) I expect you to know things like: Whether Barracks is singular, plural or group. And what the hack a Bivouac is.
That's why I come here, because I don't know those things.
(No I come here for the cheerleaders.)

Posted by: tsrblke (work) at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (VeCFA)

70 Just sent my buddy's Army son a Christmas package at Camp Marmal in Afghanistan. It's next to Mazar-i-Sharif airport, apparently a Bundeswehr base with about 5,000 troops from everywhere you can think of that sends troops. I'm hoping it's a relatively safe spot, he gets back April 15th, just in time for my Marine nephew to head over there.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (tkoGU)

71 But but but the nightly news told me stingy Republicans took all the security money away from the embassies.

Apparently the embassies needed a zipline to the weapons locker and a retinal scan lock.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 11, 2012 02:15 PM (T0NGe)

72 I didn't abandon the ambassador by myself.

Posted by: Barry at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (cUZV3)

73 "What's Benghazi?"



Wasn't he the lead in the movie Ghandi?

Posted by: Berserker at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (FMbng)

74 if you take a scissors and remove the screw holding the 2 knife-like parts together, what is one of the knife-like parts called?

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (8sCoq)

75 SIC III: The Scissoring

Posted by: dick cheese at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (QupBk)

76 Not a military guy, but my understanding of "bivouac" is that it is simply an overnight encampment for troops on the move. "Camp" on the other hand is a semi-permanent installation, that may exist for years.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (29+x5)

77 Why the hell if your job is to protect the Ambassador--do you not have arms located where he sleeps and lives most of the time?
**

along the lines of Rules of Engagement, suicidal but deemed "politically correct" by politicians who make the rules they themselves would never obey. The diplomatic decision made by Obama/Hillary, meeting the demands of allied al-Qaeda/MuslimBros, also known as the "democratic" Islamist new government representatives, installed by Obama. -- No?

Posted by: panzernashorn at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (BAnPT)

78 what is one of the knife-like parts called

A shank.

Posted by: dick cheese at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (QupBk)

79 Ze Germans in Afghanistan has Leopard II panzers defending their post


well-defended? Ja..

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (Dll6b)

80 Off, overused sock.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (T0NGe)

81 Wasn't he the lead in the movie Ghandi?

No, he starred opposite Patrick Swayze in Road House

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (kFnmp)

82
'sic' is Latin for what?

Posted by: soothsayer at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (jUytm)

83 Another interesting military word is "corps." I think that it is both singular and plural and is pronounced the same but some readers of audio books disagree with me.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (Hx5uv)

84 sometimes girls do a thing called scissoring. It is not about cutting up construction paper for school projects.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (8sCoq)

85 if you take a scissors and remove the screw holding the 2 knife-like parts together, what is one of the knife-like parts called?

Margaret Cho.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (T0NGe)

86 Yes, I know it's Army and not Marines. But the rot is in the whole system.

The Army as an institution is bigger and more complex, which means the rot has more places to grow.

Posted by: Alex at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM (3x3F6)

87 if you take a scissors and remove the screw holding the 2 knife-like parts together, what is one of the knife-like parts called?

A skank?

Sorry, all this hillary talk is confusing...

Posted by: georgepatton at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (qBLA2)

88 'sic' is Latin for what?


---

"Thus." I'm a fucking intellectual. I've got intellectual coming out of my ass.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (Hx5uv)

89 in WWII, there was Camp Patrick Henry in Virginia. Many guys shipped out from there.


Fort Drum in NY was Camp Drum for a long time. Camps can exist for quite a while....

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (Dll6b)

90 No, he starred opposite Patrick Swayze in Road House

Brian Dennehy was brilliant in the title role.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (T0NGe)

91 'sic' is Latin for what?





Posted by: soothsayer at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM



A few years of latin and I can't remember that...fucking pitiful.

Posted by: Berserker at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (FMbng)

92 if you take a scissors and remove the screw holding the 2 knife-like parts together, what is one of the knife-like parts called?


Posted by: Jones in CO at December 11, 2012 02:16 PM (8sCoq)

A blade.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (29+x5)

93 What are we supposed to use? Harsh language?

Posted by: Consulate Security. Also, that sergeant from "Aliens" at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (VYiE7)

94 'sic' is Latin for what?


Thus. Or of you're a pretentious fuck, "thusly."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (QKKT0)

95 Hey! You guys want a peace dividend or not?

We cannot spend money on sevcurity when there are millions still not getting food stamps!

Posted by: chi-town Jerry at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (UTq/I)

96 "Thus." I'm a fucking intellectual. I've got intellectual coming out of my ass.

That's where it comes out alright.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (T0NGe)

97 The country or large parts of it has become unmoored from reality
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2012 02:13 PM (1Jaio)


Bears repeating. This is why I am a LIB. These people must feel the fire, they had their chances and now they will learn the hard way.

Don't forget the crab effect is in full effect as well.

Posted by: cajun carrot at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (UZQM8)

98 Wasn't he the lead in the movie Ghandi?
Nope, he was in the original TV serices The Fugitive.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (HoGA+)

99 No, he starred opposite Patrick Swayze in Road House

The Road House itself was played superbly in a scene-chewing performance by Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (Lxw+T)

100 Kerry Picket is smart. And cute.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (zpqa2)

101 91'sic' is Latin for what?





Posted by: soothsayer at December 11, 2012 02:18 PM



A few years of latin and I can't remember that...fucking pitiful.
Posted by: Berserker at December 11, 2012 02:19 PM (FMbng)
"Thus"

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (x6tId)

102 Oh you stupid wingers trying to make something out of nothing!

Spit

Posted by: Truman North at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (UFQGb)

103 What are we supposed to use? Harsh language?

No, no, those measures are for the consulate in Lansing.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (T0NGe)

104 Posted by: Consulate Security. Also, that sergeant from "Aliens" at December 11, 2012 02:20 PM (VYiE7)


That's why I bring this... for close encounters.

Posted by: cajun carrot at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (UZQM8)

105 "Thus." I'm a fucking intellectual. I've got intellectual coming out of my ass.

Sic semper my anus, bitchez.

Posted by: John Wilkes Poofter at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (QKKT0)

106 Oh, thanks Amish, for stepping all over my snark.

*huffs away in a snit*

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (Lxw+T)

107 OT but it is about how boned California is and we could all use a good laugh. Linked on Hot Air: California's first cap and trade auction yielded less than fifteen percent of the expected revenue.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (Hx5uv)

108 That was my impression of pretty much every commenter on Politico

Posted by: Truman North at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (UFQGb)

109 Nobody cares. Another tactical victory for Team Obama and his media enablers.

Posted by: Fred at December 11, 2012 02:22 PM (VYiE7)

110 along the lines of Rules of Engagement, suicidal but deemed "politically correct" by politicians who make the rules they themselves would never obey. The diplomatic decision made by Obama/Hillary, meeting the demands of allied al-Qaeda/MuslimBros, also known as the "democratic" Islamist new government representatives, installed by Obama. -- No?
Posted by: panzernashorn at December 11, 2012 02:17 PM (BAnPT)

___________________


Well--crap-- I just remembered in the Oversight Committee document drop there was an email about how they had to wait in excess of 30 days for--

gun permits--from the current Libyan government. The emails also said that it took intervention at the ambassadorial level to get the permits.

I think this was for the local security staff--but still the embassy in Libya was forced to hire locals because US nationals were cut.

Even though the Defense Department and a General (whose name I cannot recall) personally guaranteed that they were willing to extend the TDY's of the military US nationals. For whatever reason the State Department did not accept that offer.

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 02:23 PM (r2PLg)

111 Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:21 PM (Lxw+T)

Beat you by 9 posts. I am King of Snark and Inside Jokes!

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:23 PM (T0NGe)

112
Sounds a lot like the circumstances where some of myBrothers once lived.

...in a barracks.

...in Lebanon.

Like Libya, it wasn't really a 'non-combat zone,' if you know what I mean. (Guard hadda call to get permission to shoot...while the truck crashes the gate right in front of him. Wasn't no kinda back-up in place, either.)

I'm still pissed about that one. (I still blame Reagan, too. The Commander and Chief has the ultimate blame for that one.)

Adding more fuel to fire wasn't really necessary.

Which is why my opinion is that if you go to war against Islam, it's Total War. Kill 'em all, let god sort 'em out and thenmake the rubble bounce...or stay at home.

Conservatives have never gotten serious about this war. The one they declared against us more than thirty years ago.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at December 11, 2012 02:24 PM (WwR1j)

113 Paul Blart, American Consulate Security.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:25 PM (T0NGe)

114 "Bivouac", "en route", heck maybe even "jargon"

we got it Frenchie

Posted by: dIB at December 11, 2012 02:25 PM (aRwtY)

115 I'm shocked to find out that the security personnel in Benghazi didn't have any arms. That just seems so cruel to task handicapped people to do jobs that whole people should be doing.

Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 02:26 PM (fLh76)

116 No shirt for you, Amish.

*slices toasty marshmallow with a fucking hammer*

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:26 PM (Lxw+T)

117 ..... speaking of pretentious fucks....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 11, 2012 02:26 PM (nELVU)

118 Hell, I expect better security at the American consulate in Ottawa


I expect the security there is to keep the Muricans from befouling their populace with silly memes like "right to free speech" and "right to self-defense." They'll be burning their tuques in no time.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 11, 2012 02:26 PM (/kI1Q)

119 Did Hillary train the consular security staff at Police Academy V?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (Lxw+T)

120 As a former aide to both a battalion and division commander and the author of hundreds of reports, I agree with those who state "barracks" is both singular and plural.

Posted by: jwest at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (ZDsRL)

121 Bivouac's not here, man. I think he moved to Belgium.

Posted by: Cheech Marine at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (vhwRj)

122 Which is why my opinion is that if you go to war
against Islam, it's Total War. Kill 'em all, let god sort 'em out and
thenmake the rubble bounce...or stay at home.

Conservatives have never gotten serious about this war. The one they declared against us more than thirty years ago.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at December 11, 2012 02:24 PM


I'm pretty serious. Last Christmas I told my brother's asshole leftist FIL that if I was in eye shot of the "button" I would push it with my dick, fire a fat joint, enjoy the light show and giggle myself to sleep.

Ah....the sound of a sputtering leftist.....

Posted by: Berserker at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (FMbng)

123
Camp Marmal:
There is one restaurant located in the atrium, The Oases. Various food items, coffee, sodas, and alcohol are sold at Planet Mazar, The Lounge, K2 and The Oases.

They also have a Green Bean Coffee, Pizza Hut, and Burger King.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (tkoGU)

124 Some old fashioned military terms are fun as well. If you try to draw your sidearm but can't because it is tangled up in your coat or something, you are embarrassed. If you want to create a diversion you must amuse the enemy. If you are to frightened to perform your job you are shy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 11, 2012 02:28 PM (Hx5uv)

125 State Department "Security" Officers In Benghazi Were Unarmed








There is no need for weapons. They love us over there because of Barry. The world is now nothing but peace and harmony because of Prezzy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2012 02:29 PM (1Jaio)

126 As a former aide to both a battalion and division
commander and the author of hundreds of reports, I agree with those who
state "barracks" is both singular and plural.
Posted by: jwest at December 11, 2012 02:27 PM (ZDsRL)


LMFAO.

I need to check your bonafides. Here, write a sentence composed entirely of military acronyms using only a single linking verb. It should take you only 30 seconds.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 11, 2012 02:29 PM (sbV1u)

127 It depends on what the definition of the word "is" is.

Posted by: The First Black President at December 11, 2012 02:30 PM (71LDo)

128

O/T

Hey, alberta peon, you asked yesterday about Texaco owning the rights to NiMH car batteries and not allowing use of the patent.

Here it is (remove space after "wiki"):

http://en.wiki pedia.org/wiki/Patent_encumbrance_of_large_automotive_NiMH_batteries


Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:30 PM (UaxA0)

129 yup, that was their policy. That's why it was stupid for Mitt to get bogged down in reaction times, etc. This was what they designed.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 11, 2012 02:31 PM (QxSug)

130 OT

If you need a laugh because the shit is just too grim, here is Frank Caliendo on the Dennis Miller show, doing John Gruden

http://is.gd/dLL8L6

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 11, 2012 02:31 PM (8sCoq)

131 Hey, alberta peon, you asked yesterday about Texaco owning the rights to NiMH car batteries and not allowing use of the patent.

Not in My House?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:32 PM (T0NGe)

132 Bivouac would be temporary, as in Ace should bivouac with Kerry around a small fire and a bottle of brandy.

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (pmDdf)

133 Bivouac would be temporary, as in Ace should bivouac with Kerry around a small fire and a bottle of brandy.


***

Kerry has the best lips in the business.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (piMMO)

134 I watched the Denzel Washington movie "Safe House" last week. I kept thinking how the real-life Obama administration version would be so much shorter.

Posted by: GalosGann at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (T3KlW)

135 If anyone thinks they've had a rough day, just be thankful that you're not my 7-month old kitten, "Flurry".The vet just called, and his neutering went fine, he'll be ready for pick-up at 5.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (tkoGU)

136


Oh, Amish. You so crazy.

Or maybe you didn't get any chemistry with that math degree?

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (UaxA0)

137 On active duty, military 'speak' is almost an entirely different language w/ diffirences in 'dialects' betweeneach of the armed forces.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (WwR1j)

138 An embassador in that part of the world should have a large tote full of goodies almost within arms reach 7x24 and be packing on their person whenever they're not in bed or the shower...

...maybe even when they're racked out.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (bodka)

139 If anyone thinks they've had a rough day, just be thankful that you're not my 7-month old kitten, "Flurry".The vet just called, and his neutering went fine, he'll be ready for pick-up at 5.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 11, 2012 02:34 PM (tkoGU)


-------------------------------------------------


At least he won't have to go through the hassles of getting married. No putting back any kibbles for a college fund either.

Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 02:37 PM (fLh76)

140 It was General Ham.


Transcript of the Oversight Hearing on Benghazi:


***************

COL. WOOD: Yes sir, I did. I assisted Eric Nordstrom in preparation of the requests for support, in as much as they dealt with SST support. I reviewed some of those documents and a — and assisted in the preparation of those. I’d like to — I’d like to add also that there was frustration from the beginning.

The initial — or perhaps this — it was the second request for extension that occurred on April 5th — Ambassador Cretz encountered some difficulty in understanding what was going on; he was getting conflicting signals from DOD and DOS. I got him together with General Ham; they worked out a complete understanding. And General Ham made it very clear to Ambassador Cretz that he could have the SST as long as he needed them. This was a great interagency cooperation, and that was made very clear to him.

It was also made clear to Joan Polaschik, who took over as charge d’affaires in between Ambassador Cretz and Ambassador Stevens. He came personally, and told her that.

He also had a VTC with Ambassador Stevens and reiterated that same point — that the SST was his as long as he needed them; all he had to do was request them, and General Ham was perfectly willing to provide that support.


http://iissonline.net/?p=3139


*******************

For whatever reason--The State Department did not accept the security.

Posted by: tasker at December 11, 2012 02:38 PM (r2PLg)

141 in that part of the world should have a large tote full of goodies almost within arms reach 7x24 and be packing on their person whenever they're not in bed or the shower...

Come now. It's not Detroit.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 11, 2012 02:39 PM (Lxw+T)

142 Bivouac would be temporary, as in Ace should bivouac with Kerry around a small fire and a bottle of brandy. Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 02:33 PM (pmDdf)


He lacks the requisite shelter half.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 11, 2012 02:39 PM (sbV1u)

143 ah aint no ways tard of scuttle butt hurt

Posted by: Your Next President! at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (B0hQ8)

144 OT: Federal appellate court tosses Illinois concealed carry ban (via instapundit.com):

LINK: http://preview.tinyurl.com/armfjma (Chicago Sun-Times)

Excerpt:

SPRINGFIELD-In a huge win for gun-rights groups, a federal appeals court
in Chicago Tuesday tossed the state's ban on carrying concealed weapons
and gave Illinois' Legislature 180 days to craft a law legalizing
concealed carry.

Posted by: mrp at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (HjPtV)

145 137 -

Military speak... where every 3rd word begins with the letter f.

I'm pretty sure bivwack is just the french word for a bunch of tents.

Stupid french... it's like the have their own word for EVERYTHING!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (TOk1P)

146 Anyone got Sandra Fluke’s phone number?

Posted by: Flurry at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (QF8uk)

147

Just seeing Sean Smith's name in the piece makes me sick to my stomach.

And, people voted in this disgusting administration.

Posted by: beach at December 11, 2012 02:41 PM (LpQbZ)

148 Pretty obviously, Hillary is an accessory to the murders (if only by malfeasance). I am willing to stay on as President.

Posted by: President For Life Obama at December 11, 2012 02:42 PM (B5y+v)

149 oh my God someone is leaking classified material Is it that fag Manning ? I thought he in jail.

Posted by: occam at December 11, 2012 02:45 PM (hgDJr)

150 The fact that there were only 4 dead Americans in Benghazi was due entirely to the extraordinary courage and heroism of former SEALs Doherty and Woods. If not for their actions, the dozens of Americans that were in the consulate would have been killed. Obama was perfectly willing to sacrifice dozens of Americans to the terrorists; Doherty and Woods were not. The Obama administration will do everything it can to keep this information from public view, but eventually the truth will be known.

Posted by: Observer at December 11, 2012 02:46 PM (/sohm)

151 Oh, Here's Another Military Word-Use Question:

I'm your guy!

Posted by: Baracks Corpseman Obama at December 11, 2012 02:46 PM (BrQrN)

152
138 An embassador in that part of the world should have a large tote full of goodies almost within arms reach 7x24 and be packing on their person whenever they're not in bed or the shower...

...maybe even when they're racked out.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 02:36 PM (bodka)

-------

Yep. It doesn't make sense that he wasn't armed, and that his whole crew weren't armed.
But then there is so much about this that doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make sense that they didn't evacuate when the Brits and the Red Cross did.
It was no secret that it was a dangerous situation.

Posted by: wheatie at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (CM59X)

153 Or maybe you didn't get any chemistry with that math degree?

APed out of it. Not really interested in memorizing a whole bunch of crap. I am very lazy.

Now they're coming to me and asking me to figure out molecule topology. Sigh.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (T0NGe)

154 "...but eventually the truth will be known."

Posted by: Observer at December 11, 2012 02:46 PM (/sohm)

And the people will say:

"We don't give a fuck. Give us free cell phones!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (GsoHv)

155 Posted by: AmishDude at December 11, 2012 02:49 PM (T0NGe)

Seriously?

One year of college chemistry is a very good thing.

This explains a lot.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2012 02:51 PM (GsoHv)

156 Another "new" inside-the-military expression: "Hi, sailor"!

Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 02:52 PM (fLh76)

157 Sean Bannion - re bona fides, did you ever see this from PJ O'Rourke?

"Spend any time around the Army and you'll start referring to a staircase as a Foot-Impelled Bidirectional Vertical Transport Asset."

Posted by: JPS at December 11, 2012 02:52 PM (YYDgg)

158 Man, I'm glad the Austrian embassy got their Volts and charging station at least.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at December 11, 2012 02:55 PM (hNXHo)

159

Nickel metal hydride, Amish.

Shit, a lawyer knew a science question! Man, you might have to revise your smug assumptions

Posted by: imp at December 11, 2012 02:56 PM (UaxA0)

160 Sean Bannion - re bona fides, did you ever see this from PJ O'Rourke? "Spend any time around the Army and you'll start referring to a staircase as a Foot-Impelled Bidirectional Vertical Transport Asset."
Posted by: JPS at December 11, 2012 02:52 PM (YYDgg)


----------------------------------------------------


Nope. It's Bi-directional Vertical Transport Asset, Foot-impelled type.

Posted by: Soona at December 11, 2012 02:57 PM (fLh76)

161 ^Mark 1, Mod 0.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at December 11, 2012 02:58 PM (hNXHo)

162
@160 - Nope. It's Bi-directional Vertical Transport Asset, Foot-impelled type.
----------------------------

Don't forget the M1 designation.

Posted by: junior at December 11, 2012 03:02 PM (UWFpX)

163 Breitbart.com?


Not a shred of truth to it. Pravda circa 1920 - 91 had more credibility and honesty than Breitbart and the rest of the Faux Stalinist at his web page.

Posted by: palooka at December 11, 2012 03:04 PM (+9zdv)

164 You know what I find humorous, if not pathetic, is that Celebrity Journalist @JakeTapper gets so touchy when someone points out that he has a book to promote when others are reporting on Benghazi.

Yes, Jake, I know your book is about troops in Afghanistan. No, I do not find it unworthy.

I find, instead, your desire to be a celebrity a bit crass.

His pretense at doing something noble is grating.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 03:04 PM (piMMO)

165 Hmm.

Which got to him, being called a "celebrity journalist" or pointing out thato thers are reporting on Benghazi while he's promoting his book?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 03:07 PM (piMMO)

166 Why would we want security at our consulates armed? Go figure. Read my blog Small Craft Advisory Chronicles at blogspot.com

Posted by: Damon at December 11, 2012 03:09 PM (3q4O6)

167 I tried to link, but pixy hates me really badly, even with tinyurl. Sigh.

Because I have read nearly everything written re: Benghazi until
Thanksgiving or so, I also read this: on top of not having guns, they
were not really trained to shoot them! Great job! The Libyan commander was an English teacher and was quoted as "never holding a gun in his life."

I cannot get hyper link to work for...so search:

"For Benghazi diplomatic security, U.S. relied on small British firm"
or look at Chicago Tribune 10/12/12.

Security firm, outsourced from the UK, by the way, Blue Mountain.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at December 11, 2012 03:49 PM (baL2B)

168 I tried to link, but pixy hates me really badly, even with tinyurl. Sigh.

***

bitly.com

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 11, 2012 03:50 PM (piMMO)

169 What bothers me most, and I'm in a position to know because I lived there, is that the American Embassy in Finland has (or had, when I was there, some time ago) a Marine Security Guard (now re-named Embassy Security Guard) detachment of roughly six Marines. Along with a significant, and armed group of what we typically refer to as "local hire" guards. In Finland. Pre-September 11th.

What the hell was going on in Benghazi? This is just pure insanity for anyone who lived the State Department brat lifestyle. Holy Hack, the Marines and DoS Regional Security Officer would occasionally run classes for the kids of the embassy staff on how to actively watch your surroundings, not get kidnapped, etc. Again, in pre-September 11th Finland.

Posted by: Sterlingthebandit at December 12, 2012 09:30 AM (cih6B)






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