Overnight Open Thread (12-10-2012)

Beer and Your Politics

We've analyzed Scarborough Research data, which includes 200,000 interviews with American adults, to determine the politics of beer drinkers. As the bubble chart shows, Dos Equis is a bipartisan brew - Republicans and Democrats both like to drink it. So Mr. Goldsmith's [the Most Interesting Man actor] public foray into the 2012 race could alienate a large share of Dos Equis fans. Ironically, this is in contrast to its corporate sister Heineken, which as it turns out is the most Democratic beer of all. On the other hand, Republicans love their Coors Light and favor Sam Adams, which is brewed just a few miles away from Romney campaign headquarters and whose namesake was an original tea partier.

Unfortunately there's no word on where the only Hopper-approved (PBUH) beer falls on the political spectrum.

Eh - there may be correlations between certain brands and politics but I'm just going to drink what I like and not drink what I don't. Life is too short to drink swill just because of politics.

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Too Many Good Men

Almost 10% too many.

The U.S. Marine Corps is having a hard time reducing its strength from 202,000 to 182,000. At first recruiting efforts were cut, reenlistment bonuses were eliminated and standards for reenlisting were increased. This did not get the job done. With a recession on too many first term marines wanted to stay in and too many well qualified, but unemployed, people wanted to get in.

...The marines are also offering early retirement to officers with less than 20 years. Again, this gets rid of people the marines would sorely need if there were another war. But now the battle the marines must win is getting strength down by 20,000.

This order to shed good people was pretty sudden. Last year, just as the marines were completing their expansion (ordered by Congress) from 180,000 to 202,000, they were told that the expansion must be reversed.

Sadly this yo-yoing is nothing new:

After World War II, the marines were ordered to cut strength from 475,000 to 75,000 and do it by 1950. Just as the marines finished those cuts, the Korean War broke out and the Cold War got a lot warmer. By 1955, strength was back up to 200,000. Then it dipped but shortly went up during Vietnam in the 1960s. Then it came down a bit in the 1970s and managed to keep it at around 180,000-200,000 until the present.

I'm guessing those 20,000 men will be sorely missed in a few years.

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Mexico Fun Fact

Six years ago, Mexico was the world's ninth largest exporter of cars. Today the country is ranked fourth-behind Germany, Japan and South Korea-with exports expected to total more than 2.14 million vehicles this year.

One in 10 cars sold last year in the U.S. was made in Mexico. Next year, every new taxi in New York's fleet-made by Nissan Motor Co.  -will carry the "Hecho en Mexico" label. Mexico is now exporting vehicles to China, and even helped Japan keep up with orders after last year's tsunami.

Mexico's Economy Minister Bruno Ferrari boasted that a batch of new factories planned by car makers will help Mexico surpass South Korea in a few years.

China Fun Fact

Though China is geographically larger than the United States, it has far less arable land per capita available: 0.08 hectares per person versus 0.53 per person here. And the arable land available in China is shrinking, mostly because of extreme desertification.

So China imports food to help feed its huge and growing population. But its imports vastly outweigh its exports in agricultural products (see the chart below, courtesy Zero Hedge & FAO). And that deficit is going to grow: There will be lots more mouths to feed in the future, and as more and more Chinese enter the middle class, appetites evolve.

Good times to come.

American Anti-Scumvilles

A recent cob discussion over the Dutch proposed 'scum villages' reminded me of this article from a few years ago. It turns out that the US has been experimenting with the opposite of scumvilles - spreading the poor and dysfunctional around the city via section 8 housing. The hope was that the better environment would lift up the section 8ers. In practice it just spread crime around but now with multiple nuclei for murder and mayhem.

About six months ago, they decided to put a hunch to the test. Janikowski merged his computer map of crime patterns with Betts's map of Section8 rentals. Where Janikowski saw a bunny rabbit, Betts saw a sideways horseshoe ("He has a better imagination," she said). Otherwise, the match was near-perfect. On the merged map, dense violent-crime areas are shaded dark blue, and Section8 addresses are represented by little red dots. All of the dark-blue areas are covered in little red dots, like bursts of gunfire. The rest of the city has almost no dots.

Betts remembers her discomfort as she looked at the map. The couple had been musing about the connection for months, but they were amazed-and deflated-to see how perfectly the two data sets fit together. She knew right away that this would be a "hard thing to say or write." Nobody in the antipoverty community and nobody in city leadership was going to welcome the news that the noble experiment that they'd been engaged in for the past decade had been bringing the city down, in ways they'd never expected.

Maj. Doug Barnes of the Memphis police department sits inside the Old Allen Station Armory

Jack Stuef - Staying Classy

Last time we heard of Jack Stuef he was mocking Trig Palin while working as an editor at Wonkette. Well that got him fired and he's now fallen into the great catch basin of snarky assholes, Buzzfeed, where he's maintaining his usual levels of decorum and professionalism.

This time he wrote a article on Matt Inman, the cartoonist behind the Oatmeal, that was so utterly un-fact-checked as to approach libel. This led Inman to do a full-scale no-mercy Fisking of Stuef's article. The fact that Jack Stuef still gets a check for journalism should give hope to all the nasty un-professional wannabe writers of the world.

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Herbs That Kill

Attention anti-Western medicine hippies: natural != safe. Lots of things that are natural like cyanide, cobra venom, hemlock and Chuck Norris will also kill you dead - naturally.

Aristolochia has been widely used in herbal medicine, but it contains aristolochic acid-a powerful kidney toxin and a carcinogen. As a result of including Aristolochia in the regimen (for a period of two years), 105 women attending the clinic developed rapidly progressing kidney failure and had to go on dialysis or have kidney transplants. Many of the women went on to develop cancer of the upper urinary tract. Cases of kidney failure due to the ingestion of herbal products containing aristolochic acid have also been reported in the United States, Europe, and Asia.

...People failed to recognize the nephrotoxic effects of Aristolochia in spite of its use in many cultures worldwide over thousands of years. In an interview, Grollman explained why: "The reason, of course, is quite simple. It's painless, and the damage happens much later, so you don't put together the fact that you took this medicine and four years later, you have kidney failure. It's been part of Ayurvedic, European, Chinese, and South American medicine for centuries. All of the great civilizations have used it. And not one reported its toxicity until the Belgians did 20 years ago. There are certain things that tradition can't tell you."

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5 Things You Didn't Know About Dave Brubeck

Among them the fact that he graduated with a music degree even though he couldn't read music.

Brubeck's other teachers protested that he was a very gifted musician even if he couldn't read music, so the dean cut a deal with the jazz man: Brubeck could graduate, but only if he promised never to teach music and embarrass the school by revealing his shortcoming. Brubeck later laughingly told the website JazzWax, "I kept that promise ever since, even when I was starving."

He did learn to read music later in life.

7 Makeup Techniques to Make You Look Slim

I hear stripes and standing next to your fat friends work as well.

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And my twitter thang.

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Comments

1 Here!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 10, 2012 09:48 PM (4Mv1T)

2 And now I'm going to bed.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 10, 2012 09:49 PM (4Mv1T)

3 The cars made in Mexico come complete with built in smuggling compartments preloaded with marijuana and cocaine. Efficiency!

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 09:49 PM (HwgHt)

4 Rolling Rock!

Posted by: fluffy at December 10, 2012 09:49 PM (z9HTb)

5 Where is everybody?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 10, 2012 09:49 PM (4Mv1T)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2012 09:50 PM (JMmQ9)

7 Alright. I'm really going to bed now. Watched four hours of high school hoops tonight.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at December 10, 2012 09:50 PM (4Mv1T)

8 I'm glad I got out of the Army when I did. Every officer knows that cuts are coming, and that it's going to get ugly when it comes to office politics and evaluations.


Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 09:50 PM (HwgHt)

9 My current beer of choice is Simpler Times Lager, brewed for Trader Joe's in Monroe, WI


Cheap, with 25% more alcohol.

Posted by: fluffy at December 10, 2012 09:51 PM (z9HTb)

10 Here's a sixth fact about Dave Brubeck: he was a convert to Catholicism, and composed a Mass, though I don't know if it's ever been recorded.

Posted by: Anne B. at December 10, 2012 09:51 PM (dTXIW)

11 probably watchin' MNF, TR

Posted by: AltonJackson, MFO at December 10, 2012 09:52 PM (JMmQ9)

12 Jack's a good looking dude... Haha.

Posted by: Adam at December 10, 2012 09:52 PM (/YJYi)

13 Re: the China article,

I still believe that any Chinese expansion will not be into the Pacific but instead will be westward into Central Asia. They need the resources and the available land.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 09:52 PM (HwgHt)

14 The beer graph and oatmeal hong are coming 403 access forbidden for me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 09:53 PM (GEICT)

15 Obama's Free Stuff Army - The Mob Rules
More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=751

From Obamaphones to enough contraceptives to sleep with the entire country of Lichtenstein (more than once), Obama’s coalition of beggars grow more emboldened to demand more and more. When they don’t get it, they try to riot.

http://bit.ly/UQOJ30

It’s only a matter of time before they “redistribute” the property of the kulaks 1% non-parasites. As the late Ronie James Dio said: “If you listen to fools, the mob rules.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3__NN16uoXk

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 10, 2012 09:56 PM (sZTYJ)

16 What this chart predicts is that I won't vote. But, if by chance, I happen to show up at the poll, it predicts thatI'll vote Democrat.

Posted by: gm at December 10, 2012 09:56 PM (K0tm3)

17 According to my tastes in beer, I should be a high turnout Democrat. Republicans need to stop drinking swill.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at December 10, 2012 09:58 PM (7zk6v)

18 It's nice to see Godzilla met a nice girl and settled down.

Posted by: eman at December 10, 2012 09:59 PM (9gcmf)

19 Shiner Bock ftw....

Or Yuengling. I can't get Yuengling out here

Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2012 09:59 PM (zyaZ1)

20 I wonder how her parents reacted.

Posted by: eman at December 10, 2012 10:00 PM (9gcmf)

21 Yuengling Chesterfield Ale, baby! There's one sitting in front of me right now.

Although I could swear that I read somewhere that Obama likes Yuengling.

Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2012 10:01 PM (sdi6R)

22 Obama likes Yuengling because he's sucking off PA voters

Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2012 10:02 PM (zyaZ1)

23
I wonder how her parents reacted.


It was an uncomfortable Thanksgiving dinner at Mr. and Mrs. Mothra's house...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:02 PM (HwgHt)

24 Section 8 housing, putting the Ebola all over the city's body.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:03 PM (Fhaif)

25 I wonder how her parents reacted.

It was an uncomfortable Thanksgiving dinner at Mr. and Mrs. Mothra's house...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:02 PM (HwgHt)


But they were glad that at least he wasn't Korean or Chinese.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:03 PM (pAlYe)

26 Gojira is such a cad, notice where the umbrella is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:03 PM (Fhaif)

27 I generally do not drink beer in clear or green bottles. They always taste skunky to me. Lately, I have been forgoing the beer and sticking with Scotch, bourbon, or rum. I recently tried Blanton's bourbon and Angostura rum for the first time. They are both very good.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2012 10:03 PM (mjR67)

28 MrsCaniac and I watched "Frosty the Snowman" tonight, and hoy shit, talk about getting screwed in the ass. The show was made in 1969, and the cost of the train ticket to the farthest point north was $3,000.04, that would be over $18,000 in today's money. An airline ticket from NYC to Svalbard, Norway, the northernmost airport costs $3,014.

Frosty could have flown first class to the North Pole, and had 15K to blow on hookers and blow for the same price as getting screwed by Buffet and Biden on their choo choo trains.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 10, 2012 10:04 PM (Zd/NW)

29 Section 8 housing, putting the Ebola all over the city's body.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:03 PM (Fhaif)


Funny kind of chemotherapy that induces cancer to spread...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 10, 2012 10:05 PM (sZTYJ)

30 25
I wonder how her parents reacted.

It was an uncomfortable Thanksgiving dinner at Mr. and Mrs. Mothra's house...
Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:02 PM (HwgHt)

But they were glad that at least he wasn't Korean or Chinese.


Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:03 PM (pAlYe)


Did she attend Berkeley?

Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:06 PM (X6akg)

31 Lol Tami,

A Cho Ray Me!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:06 PM (Fhaif)

32 That stripes thing is true. I look slim standing next to hippo's and rhinos.

Posted by: Zebra at December 10, 2012 10:07 PM (jucos)

33 Good evening.

Just read that Oatmeal thingy. Wow, brutal!

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:07 PM (LUnTP)

34
Did she attend Berkeley?


Stanford. Gojira just got a job offer from Google.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:07 PM (HwgHt)

35 Did she attend Berkeley?

Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:06 PM (X6akg)

I did.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:08 PM (GsoHv)

36 Paramount reveals, kinda sorta, who Benedict Cumberpatch plays in the new Star Trek: Into Darkness movie.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59945

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:08 PM (LUnTP)

37 I'm nursing a Sam Adams Latitude 48.

Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (sYewh)

38 Robert, WTF? So now Khan is Garth of Izar?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (Fhaif)

39 There is a much better video of the Brubeck quartet playing "Take Five" that was from a Belgian TV show in 1964. It's high definition, and you can watch it full screen. There are great closeups of all of the musicians.

Alas, I just discovered that it has been removed from YouTube due to a copyright issue.

Posted by: rickl at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (sdi6R)

40 hi all

wtf, Leinenkugel is a Republican beer? And a high-turnout one?
okay somebody explain that one please

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (d/5qf)

41
I did.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:08 PM (GsoHv)


I know....I'm sure you have your own plaque in the library.

Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (X6akg)

42 How long will it be before the restless males of China start spanning the globe looking for women?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 10, 2012 10:10 PM (jucos)

43 beer sucks drink scotch

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 10:10 PM (Z9EHQ)

44 Y5 blasphemes!

Posted by: kalneva at December 10, 2012 10:11 PM (S+/pH)

45 Fuck. Guinness skews Democrat? Now I gotta see if Murphy's Stout made that chart.

Posted by: CDR M at December 10, 2012 10:11 PM (dKV5k)

46 WTF? So now Khan is Garth of Izar?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (Fhaif)

Personally I'm down with it. If they rehashed Wrath of Khan that would have really sucked. It's not gonna be done better, do something new.

The cockteasing bullshit sucked, but new stories with new characters is good for me.

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:11 PM (LUnTP)

47 Drink Natty Light-- It's Bipartisan!

Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:12 PM (yExak)

48 Robert, it seems they are tossing everything into a plot Cuisinart. Instead of actually being creative.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:12 PM (Fhaif)

49 How long will it be before the restless males of China start spanning the globe looking for women?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 10, 2012 10:10 PM (jucos)

Give us your daughters or we give you kung-fu!

Posted by: Some Horny Chinemen at December 10, 2012 10:13 PM (LUnTP)

50 CJ think Western Wisconsin

Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2012 10:13 PM (zyaZ1)

51 @40

Everybody in that region is really conservative except for Minneapolis, Fargo, Madison, Chicago...they just have been fooled into believing that Democrats are legitimate....maybe they will catch on someday.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 10:13 PM (uis79)

52 Me so horny.....

Posted by: Sum Yung Gi at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (jucos)

53 48 Robert, it seems they are tossing everything into a plot Cuisinart. Instead of actually being creative.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:12 PM (Fhaif)



Creative? Ha. Ha ha. Hahahahaha.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (GEICT)

54 Also. I got my order of BuckyBalls. They are fucking awesome. Make my hands ache tho.

Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (zyaZ1)

55 Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:09 PM (X6akg)

You obviously haven't seen my transcripts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (GsoHv)

56 Holy hell, I just noticed: Apparently Corona Light actually exists. It's already water, ethaonol and yellow dye... How do you make that 'light'?

Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (yExak)

57 ahh, it's the cheeseheads - okay got it

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (d/5qf)

58 You obviously haven't seen my transcripts.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (GsoHv)


You obviously haven't seen last night's ONT.......

Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (X6akg)

59 If you have to go by that chart, Sam Adams Cream Stout makes a nice substitute for Guinness. Doesn't always seem to be available where I shop, though.

Posted by: fluffy at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (z9HTb)

60 I drink wine and whiskey/bourbon/scotch. I hate beer. What that says about me, I don't know.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (B9aMH)

61 I can't afford Scotch, and it kills me the next 2-3 days.
I helpes pops kill a bottle of Glenlivet (sp) whist taste testing minor blends. I was fuuked.

Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (jTr5F)

62 54
Also. I got my order of BuckyBalls. They are fucking awesome. Make my hands ache tho.


Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (zyaZ1)

Your HANDS ache? I'm in agony here!

Posted by: Bucky at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (d/5qf)

63 My God.......

I'm all over the board. At least I do prefer Labatts Blue over Molsons.

Unless, of course, we're out of Labatts Blue.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (suQ++)

64 Posted by: CDR M at December 10, 2012 10:11 PM (dKV5k)

Chicago, Boston and San Francisco have large Irish-American populations.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (GsoHv)

65 Ronery too.....

Posted by: Sum Yung Gi at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (jucos)

66 Gojira-san has ladyfriend.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (GE81t)

67 Someone mentioned 4chan in the earlier thread about stupid internet stuff. Being bored and with a surfeit of brain cells that have really been annoying me lately, I decided to check on what the /b/ tards were doing. I happened to find something that I could use y'alls help with. Can you please help me make sure that Alexthechick doesn't click on the following link?

http://tiny.cc/yxt4ow

I really don't think she'd enjoy it. It's not NSFW or anything, but I just really like Alexthechick, and don't think she should click on the link. Can you guys help me out with that?

Thanks.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (aH+zP)

68
Holy hell, I just noticed: Apparently Corona Light actually exists. It's
already water, ethaonol and yellow dye... How do you make that 'light'?


Run it though a set of kidneys or two.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (HwgHt)

69 it seems they are tossing everything into a plot Cuisinart. Instead of actually being creative.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:12 PM (Fhaif)

But but but ENTERPRISE UNDERWATER!!1!!111!1!one!1one!1

After the 2009 reboot I'm not expecting absolute greatness and long gone are the days of Star Trek being remotely hard sci-fi. . All I can reasonably ask for is a fun movie.

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:16 PM (LUnTP)

70 From the sidebar, the story about the German BF-109 pilot attempting to escort the damaged B-17 into Sweden:

The "code of conduct" of the air was not as commonplace as the article suggests. Plenty of pilots on both sides were machine gunned in their parachutes after they bailed out, and gun camera footage shows that pilots routinely kept firing at aircraft even as they were going down.

I never understood the need for historical revisionism. It was total war at that time. A pilot who survived would come back the next day to kill you or your compatriots.

The article talks about the "chivalry" of World War I pilots. That's more bunk. Read about AEF pilot Captain Douglas Campbell, who shot down a German observation plane after the gunner ran out of ammunition. Campbell wrote later that the now-helpless German observer tore up his maps and then stood in his cockpit with his arms folded until Campbell shot down the plane.

"He took his medicine like a man" Campbell said.

Most of the Red Baron's 80 victories were over observation planes that he shot from below. They were defenseless against him. Edward "Mick" Mannock of the RFC loved it when his victims went down in flames.

"Got another flamer today," he'd tell his squadron mates. "Sizzle sizzle, all the way down!"

The truth should always be told, even if it's unpleasant.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:16 PM (nMCEa)

71 Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:14 PM (X6akg)

Oops.

Have I just inextricably linked myself to something horrid and left-wing and new-age and in every respect disgusting?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:16 PM (GsoHv)

72 "Any Microbrew" is quite the large net. Leinies FTW anyways

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 10:17 PM (tw6Ar)

73 Just wanted to thank rdbrewer here for posting my video about the Laffer curve. It's sort of crazy dense with information, so I'm glad a few people like it.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at December 10, 2012 10:18 PM (BdzEV)

74 http://tiny.cc/yxt4ow

Posted by: Weirddave at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (aH+zP)

Aaaawwww, how cy0000000t!

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:18 PM (LUnTP)

75 Have I just inextricably linked myself to something horrid and left-wing and new-age and in every respect disgusting?



Last night's ONT featured a cheap Chinese knockoff of Sandra Fluke blabbering about how she had sex in the school library.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:18 PM (HwgHt)

76 "Any Microbrew" is quite the large net.

I think the Pacific Northwest covers that one.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2012 10:19 PM (mjR67)

77 The truth should always be told, even if it's unpleasant.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:16 PM (nMCEa)

Thanks dad.

Can we get ice cream now?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:19 PM (GsoHv)

78 I thought Ms. Cho was some cheap North Korean knock-off of Sandra Fluke.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:19 PM (Fhaif)

79
Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:16 PM (nMCEa)

I thought the rule was, you could shoot a guy in a parachute if he was going to land in his own territory.

Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:20 PM (yExak)

80 Cho is Korean...... No?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 10, 2012 10:20 PM (jucos)

81 I thought Ms. Cho was some cheap North Korean knock-off of Sandra Fluke.

Ah yes, my mistake.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:21 PM (HwgHt)

82 I love that Shiner is the most Republican beer. Shiner, Texas. We make beer for Republicans and cheer when dads beat child molesters to death. God bless Texas.

Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 10:21 PM (wsGWu)

83 Soooo. Who's going to try out some of those makeup tips?

I do need to look slimmer but I think the GAYNESS might make me look too bold.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (3E2th)

84 Antioch, CA; fucked up by section 8.


Posted by: nip at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (11Tdq)

85 77 The truth should always be told, even if it's unpleasant.
Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:16 PM (nMCEa)

Thanks dad.
Can we get ice cream now?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:19 PM (GsoHv)


Don't make me pull over this ONT and give everyone a long heartfelt but tedious lecture on civility and loving your fellow Moron no matter how jackholish they can be.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (pAlYe)

86 Posted by: Colorado Alex at December 10, 2012 10:18 PM (HwgHt)

Yeah. Probably true.

I came home one night to find two people fucking in my driveway. Not on the curb. Right smack dab in the middle of my driveway.

Berkeley was, and I am sure still is, quite fucked up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (GsoHv)

87 Also, does Guiness also include Harp? Not a big fan of the former but Harp is usually in one of our taps

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 10:23 PM (tw6Ar)

88 Berkeley was, and I am sure still is, quite fucked up.

That's what SHE said!

Posted by: CBD's Berkeley Hippie Driveway Fuckers at December 10, 2012 10:23 PM (d/5qf)

89 Thanks dad.

Can we get ice cream now?


Mr. Dildo, there's no need for you to feel inferior to me. I'm just jabbering away here, exactly like you are. I don't feel the need to try and bring you down. I'm not threatened by you.

You really don't need to be threatened by me, either. We'll never meet. You'll never have to compare your life to mine. We don't even have to compare our intellects. You have certain interests, and I have others. So what?

You need to give up your obsession with me. It's unhealthy.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:24 PM (nMCEa)

90 We make beer for Republicans and cheer when dads beat child molesters to death. God bless Texas.
Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 10:21 PM


...wipes away a tear. doG bless, indeed.

Posted by: AltonJackson really misses the land of his birth at December 10, 2012 10:24 PM (JMmQ9)

91 85
Don't make me pull over this ONT and give everyone a long heartfelt but tedious lecture on civility and loving your fellow Moron no matter how jackholish he can be.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (pAlYe)



But he started it!! He was on my side!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:25 PM (GEICT)

92 That's what SHE said!

Posted by: CBD's Berkeley Hippie Driveway Fuckers at December 10, 2012 10:23 PM (d/5qf)

You can quite now. You already have the thread winner. #62

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:25 PM (GsoHv)

93
I came home one night to find two people fucking in my driveway. Not on the curb. Right smack dab in the middle of my driveway.
Berkeley was, and I am sure still is, quite fucked up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (GsoHv)

------------------
Thanks for not calling the Po po.

Posted by: That Cho Girl With Loose Morals at December 10, 2012 10:25 PM (jucos)

94 Also no crossing the Line of Death while the ONT is in motion.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:25 PM (pAlYe)

95 Fukui-san! It appears the actress is not impressed with the basashi ice cream.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 10, 2012 10:25 PM (GE81t)

96 Ha, no Flying Dog Raging Bitch. Had it the other day at the Tap Room. Was quit good.

Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:26 PM (vroT8)

97 Llarry, yes we must face reality even by killing our souls. We tell tales of the extraordinary to prove we are not monsters.

Robert Johnson, P-47 pilot, was struggling to nurse his shot to bits Jug across the English Channel when he looked up. He had a German fighter flying formation with him. He could see the pilot in other plane giving his a thorough examination. After awhile the German fighter broke off to return to France and Johnson landed safely back in England.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:26 PM (Fhaif)

98 I loved sam adams - until their stupid fucking commercials. I hate them more and more with every stupid fucking commercial they do. Someone who likes sam adams should send them a note. I especiall despise their commercial with the "overwhelmed" song

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 10:27 PM (Z9EHQ)

99 94 Also no crossing the Line of Death while the ONT is in motion.



Line of Death?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:27 PM (GEICT)

100 You wanna know what will really kick your ass??

Regular Coors (the Banquet Beer) in the 16 ounce aluminum bottles..

That and a pint glass mixed with equal parts Jack Daniels, Bailey's and Egg Nog....On ice.

Woof!


Posted by: Portnoy at December 10, 2012 10:27 PM (A5Abh)

101 HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan, who as a Clinton HUD official helped ease agency underwriting standards before the subprime crisis, calls such easy lending the "democratization of credit."
But he and Obama are merely financing failure, which does nobody any favors, least of all taxpayers. By bankrolling borrowers who contributed to the last housing bubble and bust, they're bankrupting the FHA.
Losses are deepening, and every year under Obama, the agency has missed its statutory capital requirement. FHA's capital shortfall now totals $56 billion.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 10, 2012 10:28 PM (e8kgV)

102 What? No PBR?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 10, 2012 10:28 PM (wSTfB)

103 Budweiser the brew of Democrats. That's Anheuser Busch right? Isn't that Cindy McCain's inheritance or something?

Slacker "independents" go for Bud lite. That's about right.

Make a decision bitches! Get off the fence and take a stand.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:29 PM (3E2th)

104 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:27 PM (GEICT)

Ditto?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:29 PM (GsoHv)

105 A lot of good craft breweries are in deep blue areas like Portland or Boulder, FWIW.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 10, 2012 10:29 PM (85EaA)

106 CBD thanx

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:30 PM (d/5qf)

107 I don't often drink beer but when I do there are two.

A Heineken that is as close to being frozen and still remain in liquid form.

A freezing cold corona with a pinch of salt dropped in the neck followed by a thin lime wedge the then pour tequila into the neck till its to the top.

Place a thumb over the top, invert the bottle until the lime and tequila rise to the bottom, flip over and enjoy.

The rest of the time I drink scotch neat or with a little water.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 10, 2012 10:30 PM (0fxcV)

108 I can't afford Scotch, and it kills me the next 2-3 days.
I helpes pops kill a bottle of Glenlivet (sp) whist taste testing minor blends. I was fuuked.
Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:15 PM (jTr5F)

you have to consume scotch in smaller quantities. if you consume scotch in appropriate quantities it is not much more expensive than beer.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 10:30 PM (Z9EHQ)

109 Is this the line of death?

http://tinyurl.com/bwmkd8j

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:31 PM (GsoHv)

110 Kind of figured that Heineken would be a lefty beer since their commercials are overloaded with hipsters and throw in a shitload of pointless scenes with ironic hipster music

The one with the old Punjabi swing song in the Asian nightclub is the worst. I could never figure what a hot Asian chick was doing on a date with a goofy and homely hipster

And the "Golden Age" singer sounded like The Chipmunks on helium

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:31 PM (wwsoB)

111 HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan, who as a Clinton HUD official helped ease agency underwriting standards before the subprime crisis, calls such easy lending the "democratization of credit."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 10, 2012 10:28 PM (e8kgV)

It's "democratization of credit" now, but when it all goes to pot it'll be the fault of "predatory lenders."

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:31 PM (LUnTP)

112 Just 14 shopping days until Christmas.

You *have* done your shopping, yes? I'm all done. I haven't started. One of these statements is true.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 10, 2012 10:31 PM (ccXZP)

113 HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan, who as a Clinton HUD official helped ease agency underwriting standards before the subprime crisis, calls such easy lending the "democratization of credit."
But he and Obama are merely financing failure, which does nobody any favors, least of all taxpayers. By bankrolling borrowers who contributed to the last housing bubble and bust, they're bankrupting the FHA.
Losses are deepening, and every year under Obama, the agency has missed its statutory capital requirement. FHA's capital shortfall now totals $56 billion.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 10, 2012 10:28 PM (e8kgV)

obama has started making plans to democratize gravity when he is done with the economy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 10:32 PM (Z9EHQ)

114 Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:30 PM (d/5qf)

You owe my wife an apology. She came downstairs and asked what was so funny.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:32 PM (GsoHv)

115 Don't make me pull over this ONT and give everyone a long heartfelt but
tedious lecture on civility and loving your fellow Moron no matter how
jackholish they can be.


To paraphrase an illiterate, "Expecting civility from someone whose user name is CharlieBrown'sDildo. Hilarious!"

As for love, that's precisely Mr. Dildo's issue. His unrequited love is creepy.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:33 PM (nMCEa)

116 What about Olympia? Wasn't there a Lucky Seven beer on the west coast?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:33 PM (3E2th)

117 99 94 Also no crossing the Line of Death while the ONT is in motion.

Line of Death?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:27 PM (GEICT)


The Line of Death was the middle seam in the back seat of the car that separated my sister and myself when I was growing up. It was sorta like the Korean DMZ mixed with Star Trek's Neutral Zone.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:33 PM (pAlYe)

118 ONT Line of Death?
Would this involve ATM machines in some way?

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:33 PM (d/5qf)

119
The one with the old Punjabi swing song in the Asian nightclub is the worst. I could never figure what a hot Asian chick was doing on a date with a goofy and homely hipster

-------
I always thought she was a man, baby.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 10, 2012 10:33 PM (85EaA)

120 I'm sorry, Mrs. Dildo


(that was very weird to type)

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM (d/5qf)

121 To paraphrase an illiterate, "Expecting civility from someone whose user name is CharlieBrown'sDildo. Hilarious!"
As for love, that's precisely Mr. Dildo's issue. His unrequited love is creepy.
Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:33 PM (nMCEa)


Zip it Mr. Talky.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM (pAlYe)

122 No Old Milwaukee?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM (3E2th)

123 Speaking of annoying commercials, I'd like to nominate the Kia Soul ads. The ones with the opera and the breakdancing hamsters. It's like someone took my psychological profile to Kia's ad team and said, "We want you to design a campaign that will ensure that this man never buys any of our products, ever."

Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM (yExak)

124 Here is an interesting conundrum. I understand the major wars that start when a sibling (especially a dumb ass little brother) crossed over the hump on the floor onto your side of the car. What if you were in a Toranado? No hump no war?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 10, 2012 10:35 PM (jucos)

125 the breakdancing hamsters.
Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM (yExak)

The ones that send me into psychotic episodes?

What's wrong with 'em?

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (LUnTP)

126 The Kia gangsta hamsters really are a turn off.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (Fhaif)

127 I don't see moonshine on that chart.

Posted by: dantesed at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (WUGe0)

128 So I've been thinking about how to move forward from the Democrat victory in November. I know a lot of ink has been spilled on how to fight back politically, or to let it burn and hope that something good comes out of the coming Democrat failures if they "win" in the short term.

It occurs to me though that one reason that we lose consistently is that we consistently fight in areas liberals hold strongly - the media, the government, etc.

Why aren't we as the productive class trying to take the fight to our stronghold - namely the private sector as a whole?

And then it hit me. Why aren't we doing to the left in the private sector what the left does to us in academia? Namely, holding liberal politics against liberals and kicking their asses out of the private sector.

Layoffs coming up? Instead of laying off the least competent or newest hires...who is the most liberal? Trying to decide between two candidates? See what they had to say about election 2012 on Facebook...etc...etc...etc

Thoughts?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (AUeaU)

129 Llarry, yes we must face reality even by killing our souls. We tell tales of the extraordinary to prove we are not monsters.

I agree. My issue is that the mercy and chivalry shown were the exception, not the rule. That article made it seem like most pilots adhered to a code of honor, but all you have to do is watch the gun camera film from WWII to see that it just isn't true. All sides were ruthless.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (nMCEa)

130 "if you consume scotch in appropriate quantities it is not much more expensive than beer."

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 10:30 PM (Z9EHQ)

That's a good point.

A two ounce portion of my favorite Scotch is $5. From my own bottle. In a bar (I have never ordered it) it must be $25.

But you are comparing Scotch in "appropriate" quantities to beer in normal quantities. That's apples to piglets.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (GsoHv)

131 The Stella Artois commercials with Adrian Brody make me want to throw things at the TV set. Is he only doing commercials for beer and mens' grooming products now?

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (mjR67)

132 I dunno, that Godzilla could be a girl lizard

Posted by: boulder hobo at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (QTHTd)

133 And the "Golden Age" singer sounded like The Chipmunks on heliumSpeaking of helium. I though about helium when I saw the cheerleader picture from the previous thread.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 10, 2012 10:37 PM (wSTfB)

134 yeah I don't understand the stupid hamster ads either.

First, they're hamsters. For a car commercial. Is this a way to show that your cars are *roomy*? Umm, no.

Second, they're *gangsta* hamsters. WTF?

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:37 PM (d/5qf)

135 Some aviation art. Robert Johnson and his Jugs.
http://www.aviationartstore.com/pilot_Robert_Johnson.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:37 PM (Fhaif)

136 My husband was given.a Kia Soul once as a rental for a business trip. The cashier at Wendy's actually laughed at him for driving it.

Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 10:37 PM (wsGWu)

137 (that was very weird to type)

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM (d/5qf)

Trust me -- it was weirder to read!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:38 PM (GsoHv)

138 Zip it Mr. Talky.

Sir Talky to you.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:38 PM (nMCEa)

139 All right!!!Dave Brubeck!
Compared to last night this ONT already has more sax and less violins!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (1OZSU)

140 109 Is this the line of death?

http://tinyurl.com/bwmkd8j
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:31 PM (GsoHv)




I just lost an eye. It was worth it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (GEICT)

141 I'm trying to think if there were any instances of me and my older siblings fighting over crossing the invisible line and crying to our parents about it during long car trips.

I don't think there were any.

I mean, I really can't recall.

On the one hand, being the youngest, they didn't look for any excuses to hit me. They just did.

On the other hand, if both my parents were in the car, we were probably watching them fight the entire trip.

Huh.

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (LUnTP)

142 122
No Old Milwaukee?


Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:34 PM

Old Milwaukee is hobo beer. "Arn City" (Iron City) too

No hobo ever begs for change to buy Rolling Rock

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (wwsoB)

143
Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (LUnTP)

If you're going to piss on the face of Western society and culture, you'd better be advertising something a hell of a lot better than a fucking Kia shoebox van.

Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (yExak)

144 Thoughts?


Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (AUeaU)

Well, it's illegal, for starters.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (d/5qf)

145 Smaller quantities. That's the ticket.

Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:40 PM (L7std)

146 Does anyone remember Drewry's beer? Tasted like Bud. After you got the bottle deposit back a case of it cost around eight bucks. Great for 80's college students.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 10, 2012 10:40 PM (GE81t)

147 83 --- "Soooo. Who's going to try out some of those makeup tips? I do need to look slimmer...."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:22 PM (3E2th)

Me!
I can't believe this. All this miserable effort I've put in over the years to stay slim, all the doughnuts I turned down, ....damn.
And now they tell me all I had to do was choose a pinker shade of lipstick. Damn.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (C8mVl)

148 Hi ont, watching my fair lady. My bil is in this movie, cool, huh!

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (adaoe)

149 "...the noble experiment that they'd been engaged in for the past decade had
been bringing the city down, in ways they'd never expected."

And that's the problem with most Government efforts. This was a completely foreseeable possible outcome and they should have been LOOKING for this as the program took effect to judge whether it was being successful or just spreading the problem around. But Noooooo, they just start the program and assume it's going to work perfectly until years later when somebody makes the totally unsurprising discovery that the entirely predictable has happened.

Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (5z6T9)

150 IRON CITY LIGHT, BABY

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (d/5qf)

151 Shiner Bock ftw....Or Yuengling. I can't get Yuengling out here


Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2012 09:59 PM


I could kill some Yuenglings right about now.

Posted by: Anakin "Annie" Skywalker at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (yBF/9)

152 The Kia hamsters proves Ace's previous post. Vacuous Gangham-style gangsta hamsters have replaced actual wit and creativity.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (Fhaif)

153 Hi Lou, didn't know that your BIL is an actor! wow

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (d/5qf)

154 Second, they're *gangsta* hamsters. WTF?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:37 PM (d/5qf)

If you're retarded, sure, they're gangsta. If you can actually grasp the concept that b-boy and gangsta are on the complete opposite sides of the spectrum the no.

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (tw6Ar)

155 The Kia ads I can take or leave

It's the Subaru hipster ads that make me want to go Elvis on the tv set


Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:42 PM (wwsoB)

156 Is he only doing commercials for beer and mens' grooming products now?
Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM (mjR67)

After watching Predators I'm amazed he's even doing that!

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:42 PM (LUnTP)

157 I was the Line of Death. I had to sit in between my two younger brothers on car trips. They were little shits. My elbows may not have been pointy, but they were sharp. I had quite a lot of practice throwin' 'em.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2012 10:42 PM (mjR67)

158 153 Hi Lou, didn't know that your BIL is an actor! wow
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:41 PM (d/5qf
No, he was a choreographer, ballroom scene.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 10:42 PM (adaoe)

159 Well, it's illegal, for starters.
***
How so? Private sector employment is generally at will.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:42 PM (AUeaU)

160 Ad guys should avoid rodents. My wife hasn't let eat at Quiznos since their smashed mouse campaign. You would think a company that puts a conveyor belt in front of their customers would have thought that one thru.

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 10:43 PM (ICwOo)

161 My Mom didn't even have to pull the car over to beat our asses when we acted up. She had those Stretch Armstrong arm that could get to the fartbesg reaches of the station wagon while still driving. It was remarkable

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 10, 2012 10:43 PM (jucos)

162 >>>154 Second, they're *gangsta* hamsters. WTF?

Richard Gere is very nervous.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 10, 2012 10:43 PM (GE81t)

163 Brian Denehey didn't play the Line of Death?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:43 PM (Fhaif)

164 I keep getting that Ohh Ohhh Ohhh song from Overstock.com stuck in my head

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:43 PM (wwsoB)

165 Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:36 PM

EXACTLY. This. Word.

Posted by: AltonJackson really misses the land of his birth at December 10, 2012 10:43 PM (JMmQ9)

166 I always got car sick, so I got to sit in the front between mom and dad. My sister and brother got the back seat.

Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:44 PM (X6akg)

167
How so? Private sector employment is generally at will.


Civil Rights Act

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:44 PM (d/5qf)

168 I just lost an eye. It was worth it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (GEICT)

That is quite a sexy image.

Sometimes covered up is sexier than bared.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:45 PM (GsoHv)

169 That Mozzarella Chicken sandwich by the Wendy's Ginger?

I'm tweeting her that this is it, I'm leaving her

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:45 PM (wwsoB)

170 sorry Dude I know very little of your modern ways

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:45 PM (d/5qf)

171 If you are gonna go with hamsters, go classic:

http://www.webhamster.com/

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 10, 2012 10:46 PM (sZTYJ)

172 Sometimes covered up is sexier than bared.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:45 PM (GsoHv)

The devil you say?

Posted by: The Editors of GQ, FHM, etc etc etc... at December 10, 2012 10:46 PM (LUnTP)

173 No, he was a choreographer, ballroom scene.

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 10:42 PM (adaoe)

Does he know Empire of Jeff?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:46 PM (GsoHv)

174 "Eh - there may be correlations between certain brands and politics but I'm just going to drink what I like and not drink what I don't. Life is too short to drink swill just because of politics."

Can I get an amen? As a beer snob, I should be a high-turnout lefty instead of a member of the LIB club. Not to mention my brother (former Marine, now a cop) is considering a more self-sustainable lifestyle just in case The Burn gets really bad and hence considering homebrewing. So I wonder where homebrewers would be on that chart.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at December 10, 2012 10:46 PM (WE5bx)

175 I may have seen a clip of adrian brody stabbing topher grace. It may have been a movie - wish it was real.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 10:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

176 Civil Rights Act
***
That bans discrimination based on grounds of race, color, religion or national origin - liberalism may be a religion, but liberals well never agree that it is...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (AUeaU)

177 Does he know Empire of Jeff?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:46 PM (GsoHv)

Sorry ?

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (adaoe)

178
That Mozzarella Chicken sandwich by the Wendy's Ginger?


I notice they don't use the *actual* Wendy anymore.

Posted by: Secundus, Life Coach at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (yExak)

179 The art of dressing alluringly is the art of cover. Leave things to the boy's imagination and far easier to reduce him to a drooling slack-jawed grunt to be lead by a cute smile.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (Fhaif)

180 If you can actually grasp the concept that b-boy and gangsta are on the complete opposite sides of the spectrum the no.

Sadly, this sentence means nothing to me at all.


Get off my lawn!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (QupBk)

181 Speaking of rentals, I am driving an Avalon. The Japanese have clearly hired a German interior designer. Oh, helln no they didn't, they just ripped off some designs.

Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:48 PM (L1YgQ)

182 You know the street cops knew this was happening, I bet they slow dripped the data to this egghead so as not to appear racist and because they couldn't bring it up themselves as public servants with truly racist, democratic bosses.

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 10:48 PM (ICwOo)

183 So...would this count as covered up or not? NSFW

http://tinyurl.com/254wqgc

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:48 PM (AUeaU)

184 Sorry ?

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (adaoe)

Inside Baseball joke.

EOJ was a theater major, so of course it is fodder for making fun of him at every opportunity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:49 PM (GsoHv)

185 This British ad for an energy drink is hilarious, with boobehs too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAD7Vmh17-4

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:50 PM (wwsoB)

186
Fuck. Guinness skews Democrat? Now I gotta see if Murphy's Stout made that chart.

Yeah, I saw that too. Not gonna make me stop drinking, tho'. The local Wal-Mart grocery just lowered their price a lot.

Guinness, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 10, 2012 10:50 PM (yiIja)

187 EOJ was a theater major, so of course it is fodder for making fun of him at every opportunity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:49 PM (GsoHv)

Wow, would have never guessed that!

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 10:50 PM (adaoe)

188 "Oh, that role play"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:51 PM (Fhaif)

189 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.


Just trying a simple declarative sentence as Ace suggested earlier!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 10:51 PM (1OZSU)

190 Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2012 10:48 PM (AUeaU)

I think that depends on your definition, but it doesn't matter if it was full frontal nudity...it isn't sexy, so I don't want to look.

Weird that a woman's breasts, almost totally exposed, look rather unappealing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:51 PM (GsoHv)

191 EOJ was a theater major, so of course it is fodder for making fun of him at every opportunity.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:49 PM (GsoHv)


He was also outed by ace as a closet intellectual.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:51 PM (pAlYe)

192 Homebrewers...libertarian, bordering apolitical to anti-establishment. Check.

Posted by: sTevo at December 10, 2012 10:52 PM (L7std)

193 Anne Hathaway wants to star in a new Robert Plant video. Might as well face it she's addicted to love.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:52 PM (Fhaif)

194 so he is gay then...

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (AVfT8)

195 What is everyone's favorite scotch?

I drink Glenmorangie, neat mostly.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (0fxcV)

196 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:47 PM (Fhaif)

So...no tramp stamp and thongs pulled up to your ears?

I approve.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (GsoHv)

197 Or was that Palmer.. I will be going on Sabbatical or the barrel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (Fhaif)

198 Scarborough Research?

Is that some kind of meta-humor?

Posted by: filbert at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (NaNKB)

199 @194

No.....He has Sweaty Vag Syndrome (SVS)

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 10:54 PM (uis79)

200 A Japanese collection of illustrations that depict dictators and tyrants as... Moe little girls and/or busty babes.

Fair warning: Ads are [NSFW]

http://bit.ly/T38Etz

WTF Japan, WTF...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 10, 2012 10:54 PM (sZTYJ)

201 He was also outed by ace as a closeted intellectual.

Posted by: Mætenloch at December 10, 2012 10:51 PM (pAlYe)

Which is more embarrassing?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:54 PM (GsoHv)

202 193
Anne Hathaway wants to star in a new Robert Plant video. Might as well face it she's addicted to love.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:52 PM

Sorry, but that was Brian Dennehy in the video

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 10:54 PM (wwsoB)

203 missed it by that much...

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 10, 2012 10:55 PM (AVfT8)

204 Actual art as tattoo I don't have problems with. It's the slag at hibachi who's upper arm is just a swirl of orange and blue I have issues with.

And if the item can be pulled that far up. Ugh.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:55 PM (Fhaif)

205 I drink Glenmorangie, neat mostly.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (0fxcV)

Good. I'll be over for cocktails.What time?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:55 PM (GsoHv)

206 I drink Glenmorangie, neat mostly.
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 10, 2012 10:53 PM (0fxcV)


***

I used to drink Glenlivet, but not so neat. In fact, I usually sloshed half of it on my shirt!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 10:56 PM (1OZSU)

207 My eight year old is home brewing root beer right now, trying to get his mix right for the family xmas party. Its actually taken over my reloading bench, where does put me on the chart.

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 10:56 PM (ICwOo)

208 Anne Hathaway wants to star in a new Robert Plant video. Might as well face it she's addicted to love.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:52 PM (Fhaif)

I assume you mean Robert Palmer? Although a video by Plant might be of interest.
Palmer's dead though so he's out. Unless they're doing a Zombie reboot a la Touch of Grey by the Grateful Dead.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger (aka Ol' 3 tooth) at December 10, 2012 10:56 PM (3E2th)

209 Hmm I guess I am wrong.

It's the Civil Service Act that bans discrimination against political affiliation when it comes to working in the civil service. But I guess you can discriminate by political view all you want in the private workplace.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 10:56 PM (d/5qf)

210 The Jack Stuef and Matt Inman feud is like the Iran-Iraq War. You wish both could lose. A belligerent, Obama-supporting mental patient on one side and a defensive, unfunny Obama supporter on the other.

Couldn't make it through that article.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 10:56 PM (nMCEa)

211 @209

Not in hiring and firing though.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 10:57 PM (uis79)

212 Gaddafi didn't need the MOE treatment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:57 PM (Fhaif)

213 The QB's on Facebook site makes me laugh out loud, every.time.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 10, 2012 10:57 PM (QupBk)

214 Evening 'rons and 'ettes. I finally got on that Twitter thing, @conservativecra, and also posted a new blog post. Working my way up to a long-form piece on what I'm calling the Second American Awakening--may need to source that to make sure it's not already used for some New Deal era crap...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at December 10, 2012 10:57 PM (83wHT)

215 Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 10:56 PM (ICwOo)

If this works, please inform the horde.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:58 PM (GsoHv)

216 @205

We usually start cocktail hour around 7.

Bring the qual liver pate and mini sausages

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 10, 2012 10:58 PM (0fxcV)

217 Supported your local Ewok lately?

http://tinyurl.com/czxklh5

Amazon DVD/Bluray lightning deal times for tomorrow.

Notably, to me anyway, Johnny Weismuller Tarzan collection for $15, Harry Potter bluray complete set for $62 (or about $7.75 a movie), Back To The Future Trilogy for $29, Looney Tunes Golden Collection volume 1 for $27 and a Marylin Monroe seven movie set for $29.

Wednesday brings a Planet Of The Apes box (presently $20 bucks), Grimm season 1 and the Jurassic Park trilogy among others.
Not the lowest prices ever, but hard to pass up.

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 10:58 PM (LUnTP)

218
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:52 PM (Fhaif)





That was Robert Palmer....hot models. One with no bra! Good times....good times.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 10, 2012 10:58 PM (hq+RW)

219 @216

Did you mean Quail?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 10:59 PM (uis79)

220 Posted by: General Woundwort at December 10, 2012 10:58 PM (0fxcV)

I make pork rillettes, so will that work?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:59 PM (GsoHv)

221 Ha. A young buck who has been hanging around my sister's neighborhood in the 'burbs has fallen in love with one of her lawn ornaments - a wicker deer. My sister says he has been coming around in the early morning for about a week now to stare at the thing. She likes to make the fake deer festive for Christmas, so she put a red bulb on its' nose to make it look like Rudolph. Apparently, this has made the lawn ormament even sexier to the dumb sad-assed buck, who is now getting bolder, and starting to get closer to this hunk of wicker that he is mistaking for a doe. Geez, it's like a man falling in love with an inflatable doll. You'd think a deer would be able to tell by scent that a wicker lawn ornament is not a real doe, but this buck is even a bigger idiot than your average Obama voter. This will not end well.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 10, 2012 10:59 PM (BStAJ)

222 Llary, you've obviously looked into this World War chivalry thing. I've thought about it, one way and then another, since I was a kid, and I've talked to a lot of veterans (both wars) too. I wonder if you've ever run into this:

Before the internet, there was a story that went around, about a toast offered in a RFC mess by an ace, to the consternation of his comrades. It began "To our gallant foe," and was full of all the fantastical bullshit that we fantasists always attribute to early aviators. Being full of bullshit, of course, it's quite likely a Brit pilot really did say it. Every year or so I go through the motions of looking it up, and it has vanished. Have you ever seen a reference to it?

Posted by: comatus at December 10, 2012 10:59 PM (qaVK+)

223 Can someone explain why I hate Anne Hathaway?

She just completely grates on my nerves, and I can't figure out why.

I think it might be her mouth. Totally Julia Robertsesque.

Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 11:00 PM (wsGWu)

224 Complete list of Moe-fied dictators here:

http://___ur.com/a/UBc8p#0

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:00 PM (sZTYJ)

225 I like the Macallan if I want something less peaty. Lagavulin is my usual choice.

Posted by: no good deed at December 10, 2012 11:01 PM (mjR67)

226 Remember Pixy-misa hates the letters ' i m g '

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:01 PM (Fhaif)

227 Apparently, this has made the lawn ormament even sexier to the dumb sad-assed buck, who is now getting bolder, and starting to get closer to this hunk of wicker that he is mistaking for a doe. Geez, it's like a man falling in love with an inflatable doll. You'd think a deer would be able to tell by scent that a wicker lawn ornament is not a real doe, but this buck is even a bigger idiot than your average Obama voter. This will not end well.
Posted by: Donna V. at December 10, 2012 10:59 PM (BStAJ)

*****

Who knows? Maybe there will be a 'happy ending'!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 11:01 PM (1OZSU)

228 Gaddafi didn't need the MOE treatment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 10:57 PM (Fhaif)


Gaddafi here:
http://bit.ly/T39UNi

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:03 PM (sZTYJ)

229 Geez, it's like a man falling in love with an inflatable doll.

Once you go plastic, you never go back

Posted by: palin steele at December 10, 2012 11:03 PM (d/5qf)

230 223 Can someone explain why I hate Anne Hathaway? She just completely grates on my nerves, and I can't figure out why. I think it might be her mouth. Totally Julia Robertsesque.
Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 11:00 PM (wsGWu)

I liked her as catwomen,
However watched Love and other drugs with her in it, was a porno, swear she and jake gyllenhall (sic?) had sex in that movie. So like a good wife, saved it for hubby to view,

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 11:03 PM (adaoe)

231 Did she attend Berkeley?

Posted by: Tami at December 10, 2012 10:06 PM (X6akg)

I did.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 10, 2012 10:08 PM (GsoHv----------------Just out of curiosity, what is your vocation?

Posted by: TwiceBlessed at December 10, 2012 11:04 PM (cxl8k)

232 Once you Inflatable it's not debatable!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 11:04 PM (uis79)

233 I'd totally fuck Pol Pot and Al-Bashir

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 11:04 PM (tw6Ar)

234 Johnson was shot at by the German who found him struggling back to England. The German gave up, couldn't figure out how he was still in the air. Was out of cannon ammo, just had machine gun ammo. He did wave as he pulled away.

Posted by: Bill at December 10, 2012 11:04 PM (id/J+)

235
Apparently, this has made the lawn ormament even sexier to the dumb sad-assed buck, who is now getting bolder, and starting to get closer to this hunk of wicker that he is mistaking for a doe. Geez, it's like a man falling in love with an inflatable doll. You'd think a deer would be able to tell by scent that a wicker lawn ornament is not a real doe, but this buck is even a bigger idiot than your average Obama voter. This will not end well.

We're gonna take up a collection for your Christmas present: a bottle of Doe-in-heat and a disposable camera.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 10, 2012 11:05 PM (yiIja)

236 CBD, it works. The homebrew shops have pr-mixed flavor packs, you just bottle it up in a carboy with the yeast and carbs. Quick, too. He is trying to use raw flavors - vanilla, mint, licorice, etc. Results have been mixed.

Teaching how to keep a lab notebook at the same time. Im sure Chemjeff can relate

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 11:05 PM (ICwOo)

237 More than 3,000 U.S. military personnel have secretly returned to Iraq via Kuwait and 17,000 more are on their way in response to the civil war in Syria that has spilled over into northern Iraq, according to a report published Monday by Iran's Press TV.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 10, 2012 11:06 PM (e8kgV)

238 223 Can someone explain why I hate Anne Hathaway? Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 11:00 PM (wsGWu)

*****

I actually liked her in the Beverly Hillbillies

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 11:06 PM (1OZSU)

239 The Hugo Chavez and Josip Tito are pretty funny.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:08 PM (Fhaif)

240 Bush Sr. ditched in the ocean......the rest of his attack squad that was shot down were captured and cannibalized.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 11:08 PM (uis79)

241 yeah, she was the brains behind the Drysdale empire...

Posted by: D. Hopper at December 10, 2012 11:09 PM (AVfT8)

242 I just noticed that Gadaffi is an inu-mimi megane-ko...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:10 PM (sZTYJ)

243 Original Addicted to Love video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 11:10 PM (wwsoB)

244 Bill, seems you read the same book as me. Martin Caiden's 'Thunderbolt!'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:10 PM (Fhaif)

245 Johnson was in a P47 Thunderbolt, which was heavily built. Pilots liked to say it was reluctant to leave the ground and very anxious to get back on it . It was also one of the first few planes to approach the speed of sound in a dive, the controls would freeze due to the air "compressibility". A spitfire pilot said that diving from high altitude could result in you suddenly finding yourself hanging in a parachute in your underwear.

Posted by: Bill at December 10, 2012 11:10 PM (id/J+)

246 And time for me to get ready for woik.

Good night, ONT!

Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2012 11:10 PM (LUnTP)

247 Before the internet, there was a story that went around, about a toast
offered in a RFC mess by an ace, to the consternation of his comrades.
It began "To our gallant foe


The only reference I know of that phrase was a wreath placed on von Richtofen's grave by the RFC, but it was "To Our Gallant and Worthy Foe." When Oswald Boelke--the father of modern fighter tactics--died in an air accident, the British dropped a wreath on his aerodrome that read "To Our Brave and Chivalrous Foe."

Werner Voss was likely one of the greatest pilots who ever lived. He flew a Fokker Triplane and liked to go out alone. In his last battle, he faced seven of the best British pilots in service at the time, and they were flying SE-5As that totally outclassed the Fokker.

Yet Voss put bullet holes in all seven and managed to damage three severely enough that they had to be scrapped. The British reported that he was able to make his aircraft turn 180 degrees so he could fire at them while flying backwards. He seemed everywhere at once, looping around them like a hummingbird. All the Brits said he was the best pilot they'd ever seen.

But they killed him anyway. He didn't have a chance, seven to one. Only his superhuman skill allowed him to survive as long as he did.

The chivalry of the air was pretty much a myth.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 11:11 PM (nMCEa)

248 Actually read Johnson's autobiography. not Caidin's. His stuff is not well known anymore, even the Cyborg book, basis for the Six-million Dollar man series.

Posted by: Bill at December 10, 2012 11:13 PM (WZQdF)

249 Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance say "Akin"!

Posted by: Dieter Sh*tst*rrer at December 10, 2012 11:14 PM (eHIJJ)

250 Howdy, all!

Posted by: cthulhu at December 10, 2012 11:14 PM (kaalw)

251 hi cthulhu!
how are the tentacles tonite

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (d/5qf)

252 Can someone explain why I hate Anne Hathaway?


She just completely grates on my nerves, and I can't figure out why.


She's smug. It's one of the most unattractive qualities an actor can have.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (nMCEa)

253 Pinochet is bangable too...

http://bit.ly/TS0QMr

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (sZTYJ)

254 As Len Deighton said in his book Fighter, about chivalry
the survivors of the war could only wonder about such a concept.

Posted by: Bill at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (WZQdF)

255 35-7!!!

How y'all doin' tonight?

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (kpCLl)

256 Larry, dig up a copy of: "A Blond Knight of Germany"

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (ICwOo)

257 "I'm guessing those 20,000 men will be sorely missed in a few years."

Yes, no doubt when Iranian forces land off the Gulf Shores and begin marauding inland.


Posted by: limks at December 10, 2012 11:16 PM (x+59A)

258 Still disappointed that the Dick Tracy blu has no extras but very nice to see it's getting good marks on video and audio

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 11:17 PM (tw6Ar)

259 250 Howdy, all!
Posted by: cthulhu at December 10, 2012 11:14 PM (kaalw)

*****

'Sup?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 11:17 PM (1OZSU)

260 Sweet fancy Moses, we're talking 42-7. Doin' the snoopy dance of joy!!!!

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:17 PM (kpCLl)

261 We're gonna take up a collection for your Christmas present: a bottle of Doe-in-heat and a disposable camera. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 10, 2012 11:05 PM (yiIja)

I was thinking there must be a serious doe shortage in these parts if a buck is reduced to lusting after a wicker lawn ornament, but on second thought, perhaps he, like the Berkeley woman, is just into "transgressive sex." He's a hip, progressive deer and sees no reason to limit himself to sex with actual does, or even with animate objects.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 10, 2012 11:17 PM (BStAJ)

262 255 35-7!!!How y'all doin' tonight?
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (kpCLl)

*****

'Sup?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 11:18 PM (1OZSU)

263 Complete list here, now in pixy friendly format:

http://bit.ly/TS19a7

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:19 PM (sZTYJ)

264 Peaches, glad to see you so happy

Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 11:19 PM (d/5qf)

265 Perhaps the buck is simply contemplating his next work of performance art.

Posted by: filbert at December 10, 2012 11:19 PM (NaNKB)

266 How many Comanches, Apaches & A-10's = 20,000 Marines?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 10, 2012 11:19 PM (uis79)

267 Q: What did the buck say when it mounted the wicker lawn deer?


A: Doh!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 10, 2012 11:21 PM (1OZSU)

268 Larry, dig up a copy of: "A Blond Knight of Germany"

I've read it. Erich Hartmann is the highest-scoring ace of all time.

The Nazis didn't allow their men to serve tours of duty. You served until you were killed. That's why German pilots racked up such massive scores.

In the USAAF, you served your tour of duty and then went home and trained new pilots. The Germans and Japanese had run out of pilots by the end of WWII.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 11:21 PM (nMCEa)

269
I was thinking there must be a serious doe shortage in these parts if a buck is reduced to lusting after a wicker lawn ornament, but on second thought, perhaps he, like the Berkeley woman, is just into "transgressive sex." He's a hip, progressive deer and sees no reason to limit himself to sex with actual does, or even with animate objects.

Either that or he's really nearsighted.

Howdy Peaches and cthulu. Peaches, your Pats are kicking ass.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 10, 2012 11:22 PM (yiIja)

270 Robert Palmer - Simply Irresistible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGw_cOgwa8

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 11:22 PM (wwsoB)

271 OMG I'm a Rolling Rock fan. And look where I'm at. Sweet!

Posted by: Corona at December 10, 2012 11:23 PM (fh2Y7)

272 Larry, I liked the birthday party after you survived a crash.

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 11:23 PM (ICwOo)

273 Everyone talks of Hartmann or Galland.

Someone who is overlooked a lot -
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2011/07/star-of-africa.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:23 PM (Fhaif)

274 Ah, I don't have the cable tee vee, but the yahoo sports update shows that Houston has the ball and "B Tate rushes for a loss of 2 yards" "Yates passes for a 4 yard loss" . . . this is all I had hoped for and more. If it wouldn't upset the cats, I would break into song.

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:24 PM (kpCLl)

275 She's smug"

You're right. I think that's it.

Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 11:24 PM (wsGWu)

276 234 Johnson was shot at by the German who found him struggling back to England. The German gave up, couldn't figure out how he was still in the air. Was out of cannon ammo, just had machine gun ammo. He did wave as he pulled away.
Posted by: Bill at December 10, 2012 11:04 PM (id/J+)


IIRC(I'm not at home so don't have my references handy), Johnson either spun out of the clouds from vertigo or was " shot down " ( spun out of control due to enemy fire ) 4 times on that mission. He got 3 or 4 Germans himself. And yea, the last Jerry left him after running out of ammo trying to bring down the Jug. Tough plane, the P-47. Johnson's had literally hundreds of holes from enemy shells when he landed. it never flew again. Would be my choice if I had to go into combat In a prop plane (Mustangs not withstanding). Actually, I might take a TA-54 (FW-190 evolution if I remember the designation correctly), but it never saw production, so it doesn't count.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 10, 2012 11:25 PM (pmDdf)

277 Anne Hathaway is pretty smug, the girl got pissed when people kept relating her to her princess diaries character. It's annoying when actors/actresses diss their first big role, you have to start somewhere. Not every role is art house Oscar material, and didn't she date some IRS cheat?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 10, 2012 11:26 PM (NzBQO)

278 Soledad O'Brien about to get her walking papers?

http://tinyurl.com/b9jfqsh

Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2012 11:26 PM (wwsoB)

279 She's smug"

She is dumber than a bag of hammers trying to outrun a box of rocks. It's appalling. Very cute girl, super cute . . . just don't listen when she talks, it ruins the entire thing.

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:26 PM (kpCLl)

280 Re: USMC R.I.F., Marine Reserves carried the day in Korea.
The Ogabe Regime runs a hazard in putting that many trained, effective, moral killers stateside. Good things might happen.
Constitutionally speaking, there s/b no standing Army. There's the Navy, and it's complement of Marines... And what is the Air Force but a Navy of the air? The Militia, trained marksmen in every household, with plenty of ammo and an arm with a 3-position safety, is the army, and the police, and the fail-safe when Congress refuses to act.
"And if the army and the navy ever gze on Heaven's scenes, they will find the gates are guarded by United States Marines."

Posted by: Thorvald at December 10, 2012 11:26 PM (1V6Pv)

281 OK, I'm out

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson is out at December 10, 2012 11:27 PM (JMmQ9)

282 Someone who is overlooked a lot -
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2011/07/star-of-africa.html


Yup. Nice write-up. He was acknowledged as one of the best shots in the Luftwaffe, IIRC.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2012 11:28 PM (Z7Nt0)

283 Beer, real beer, from the land of Al Quie, well-spoken Republican:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/d27spb

Posted by: Thorvald at December 10, 2012 11:33 PM (1V6Pv)

284 Anne Hathaway is pretty smug, the girl got pissed when people kept relating her to her princess diaries character. It's annoying when actors/actresses diss their first big role, you have to start somewhere. Not every role is art house Oscar material, and didn't she date some IRS cheat?
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 10, 2012 11:26 PM (NzBQO)

yeah, she is smug, she has the notion that becoming famous somehow made her smarter or her opion relevant or meaningful. She is one of those actors / actressettes that refers to everyone else as "you people."

kim kardashian has the same first role phobia, hates to be reminded of how she got her big break / got something big broken off in her .

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

285 Larry, I liked the birthday party after you survived a crash.

You mean after pilots survived crashes?

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 11:34 PM (nMCEa)

286 " Soledad O'Brien about to get her walking papers?"

That's the best news I've heard since I read that Hugo Chavez has one foot in the grave.

Good night, morons. Hopefully my sister will have her cell phone camera at the ready if she witnesses some some hot buck-wicker deer action.

Posted by: Donna V. at December 10, 2012 11:34 PM (BStAJ)

287 when I get my yearend bonus I am getting one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marauder_(vehicle)

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:35 PM (Z9EHQ)

288 I'm outta here too. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 10, 2012 11:36 PM (yiIja)

289 Weir why the jug over the Hellcat

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 11:37 PM (ICwOo)

290 If only those Republican Shiner drinkers knew how closely the Shiner brewing family is with the Texas Democratic Party.

Might as well write a check every time you pick up a six-pack.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (2Oas0)

291 Weirddave, it was a Ta-152. they made about 250 and about 40 made it into service

Posted by: helofixer at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (REgvX)

292 The "Beyond the Laffer Curve" video in the sidebar is quite good.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (Z7Nt0)

293 Re: Section Eight and Crime
Remember when we Rethuglicans were derided for our concern over poor people's virtue? As usual, it was one of The Left's calumnies.
We were concerned with everyone's virtue.
(Thou, Fool, who wants license, and who does not understand God gave you Liberty: Why? So your virtue is worth most when it isn't compulsory.)

Posted by: Thorvald at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (1V6Pv)

294 "Scum" is not a life station, its a state of mind. If you're scum, you bring that with you wherever you go. You can win PowerBall and get $100M, and if you're scum, you'll still think and act like scum.

There are billionaires who are scum, and dirt poor who are princes.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (bodka)

295 *uses brain bleach by the gallon for the following thought*
Anne Hathaway as PonyGirl.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (Fhaif)

296 Hard Christmas candy, I cant quit you

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 10, 2012 11:39 PM (adaoe)

297 Any of you smart military types know much about Malden Airfield? My grandpa was an aircraft mechanic out there the whole time it was open, but we never really talked about it and he died a few months ago.

While writing his obituary, I came upon the preservation society, and it sounded like it had a pretty interesting history.

Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 11:40 PM (wsGWu)

298 Id take the P-47 as well. 8 .50 cals, loads of armor and an engine that would run with cylinders shot off of it. Great ground attacker. It and the Tempest/
Typhoon from the RAF did a shit ton of damage to the Germans in Normandy trying to bring up re enforcements to the front.

Posted by: helofixer at December 10, 2012 11:40 PM (REgvX)

299 Sorry to see where the "any hard cider" preference landed. I am drinking Woodchuck Private Reserve (seasonal) hard cider tonight and it is very smooth. And believe me, I have no Democrat tendencies!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 10, 2012 11:40 PM (Cnqmv)

300 uses brain bleach by the gallon for the following thought*
Anne Hathaway as PonyGirl.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (Fhaif)

I googled your "ponygirl" is that something diferent than what the Internet thinks it is

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

301 Waterhouse, thanks for the compliment. Joachem is one of my non Pacific hobbyhorses. Which means I have also gotten lost deciphering all the sub-sub-sub flavours of the Freidreich.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:41 PM (Fhaif)

302 Everyone talks of Hartmann or Galland.

Someone who is overlooked a lot -


I could never figure the meaning of JG27's unit badge.

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 11:42 PM (nMCEa)

303 Y5, probably not. Bit in mouth I take it?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:42 PM (Fhaif)

304 Haha, Pats!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:42 PM (kpCLl)

305 Y5!!! How's your bad self tonight?

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 10, 2012 11:43 PM (kpCLl)

306
295 *uses brain bleach by the gallon for the following thought*Anne Hathaway as PonyGirl.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (Fhaif)


Well that would mean she'd have a bridle in her mouth and couldn't talk right?

Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2012 11:43 PM (GULKT)

307 "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/b7hust3

"O, Muslim, why do you mutilate your sister?"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/bcv394n

Posted by: Thorvald at December 10, 2012 11:43 PM (1V6Pv)

308 Y5, probably not. Bit in mouth I take it?
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:42 PM (Fhaif)

for starters

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

309 JG27's badge would be Verbotten in today's PC climate. The Gruppe badge is a roundel that is split from top right to bottom left. The top left is an outline of Africa while the bottom right is a dark skinned native with large lips and gold earring.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:44 PM (Fhaif)

310 Any of you smart military types know much about Malden Airfield?

Here's a piece about it:

http://www.dddnews.com/story/1655929.html

Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2012 11:44 PM (nMCEa)

311 290 If only those Republican Shiner drinkers knew how closely the Shiner brewing family is with the Texas Democratic Party. Might as well write a check every time you pick up a six-pack."

Really? Boooooooooooo

Posted by: Lauren at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (wsGWu)

312 Beer preference is regional. Even the nationally distributed domestic premiums. It's the local dairy principle.

Sierra Nevada can be found in every liquor and grocery store in California but you'll be hard-put to find Sam Adams in say.. the general store in Fort Bidwell, Ca.

...

Anchor Steam Porter.

Divine.

Posted by: 13times at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (h6XiD)

313 I am so proud of myself.
I accompanied the missus to the hospital today, a little outpatient thing. Anyway a nurse attended her, same nurse I had a few months back. We nodded. I noticed that she was likely pregnant.

BUT! DID I SAY A WORD?

No. I was not born yesterday.

Later, as I was still sitting there with my mouth shut the nurse says she will be taking 4-5 months off.

I asked "Vacation?"

And both women, more or less in unison said "NO, you idiot, she's (I'm) pregnant!"

One word. One word sunk my battleship.

Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (Ty7ja)

314 PEACHES!

I am well. How are you? Are you and your feline overlords all ready for Christmas? Cards with the feline overlords in cute outfits in the mail?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (Z9EHQ)

315 Y5, now you understand the brain bleach comment. But buzzion is right, would shut her up.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:46 PM (Fhaif)

316 More than 3,000 U.S. military personnel have
secretly returned to Iraq via Kuwait and 17,000 more are on their way in
response to the civil war in Syria that has spilled over into northern
Iraq, according to a report published Monday by Iran's Press TV.

Posted by:Islamic Rage Boy at December 10, 2012 11:06 PM (e8kgV)

But what about the trillions that we budgeted as savings from canceling those unnecessary wars started by that warmonger Bush so Cheney's Halliburton could make a profit?
Glad to see that we got Congressional authorization for THIS operation!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 10, 2012 11:46 PM (Cnqmv)

317 289 Weir why the jug over the Hellcat
Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 11:37 PM (ICwOo)

I dunno. I was thinking in terms of the ETO. I don't believe that the Hellcat had the legs of the P-47, although the Jug loses big to the 51 or even the 38 in that regard. Still, carrier based aircraft were by necessity not as robust as land based. *shrug* it comes down to the pilot, of course, but I like the idea of a plane that can be shot literally to pieces and still get you home. The other guys are good too, you might get unlucky.

Weir? Lol.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 10, 2012 11:47 PM (iy7de)

318 Fleet Air Arm used Hellcats. So some raids against what was left of Germany's Kreigsmarine were carried out by FAA Hellcats and Avengers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:48 PM (Fhaif)

319 Lauren, if you're near the airfield, visit the FBO there. They may have a physical collection of memorabilia related to the airport's history not available online.

You might get lucky and find some of the old WWII era hangers still intact. AirGlades in Clewiston FL was a big training base for foreign ally pilots during the war and has some memorabilia at the FBO. There was a WWII hanger still there until around 2005 when one of the hurricanes flattened it.

Old stuff has a way of hanging around in the corners of hangers and storage lofts at smaller airports

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 10, 2012 11:49 PM (bodka)

320 Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (Ty7ja)

heh, bloomberg made the mistake you avoided. he was touring some den of sloth inhabited by city workers, he happened across jaba the hut's sister and asked "oh when are you due? minor kerfuffle of offended woman/minority/union employee - not necessarily union worker - ensued.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:49 PM (Z9EHQ)

321 "Never ask if a woman is pregnant unless you actually see the baby emerging from the womb." - D. Barry

Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2012 11:50 PM (Ty7ja)

322 One of the most memorable comments about the Hellcat came from Vraicu. "If it could cook I would marry it!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:50 PM (Fhaif)

323 Y5, now you understand the brain bleach comment. But buzzion is right, would shut her up.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:46 PM (Fhaif)

I am sure she would have something to say about the tail.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2012 11:51 PM (Z9EHQ)

324 I thought the carrier based aircraft had more redundant systems by that time of the war.

Posted by: Jean at December 10, 2012 11:51 PM (ICwOo)

325 Posted by: 13times at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (h6XiD)

Sierra Nevada Tumbler is excellent.


Also try Lagunitas "Brown Shugga" (seasonal) if you can find it. Wowza!


I always felt that since Becks complies with Reinheitsgebot, I could drink a lot more of it and still wake up without a hangover than any other readily available bar brand. In my testing, this theory usually seemed to hold up well.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 10, 2012 11:51 PM (Cnqmv)

326 Republic Aviation and Grumman were both Long Island companies. But Grumman Bethpage was called the Iron Works because of how tough the Grumman planes were from the 'FiFi' all the way to the Tomcat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:52 PM (Fhaif)

327 Y5, we could go and trot out some of Sorayama Hajime's art while at it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:54 PM (Fhaif)

328 291 Weirddave, it was a Ta-152. they made about 250 and about 40 made it into service

Posted by: helofixer at December 10, 2012 11:38 PM (REgvX)


I think there was one beyond that, which would have been the TA-154. Only a couple of prototypes ever flew, but I remember reading about a pilot on a test flight who was jumped by Mustangs. He opened the throttle and out ran them, and that's impressive, the 51 was FAST. If the plane had that speed and any of the performance and toughness of the 190, it would have been something special. Give the Germans credit, industry bombed to hell and they were still developing planes like that. Forgive Me if I'm misremembering, I'm posting from a bar, going by very old memory.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 10, 2012 11:54 PM (iy7de)

329 When I was drinking years ago, my brew was that tiny little Fosters dot in the middle. There was something unique about Fosters. Kangaroo piss or something, but it was unique unto itself.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 10, 2012 11:54 PM (bodka)

330 One word. One word sunk my battleship.


Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2012 11:45 PM (Ty7ja)


"You got a new destroyer in drydock?"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 10, 2012 11:56 PM (29+x5)

331 Great. Finally got out of the Twitter gulag and absolutely nothing is happening there.

Posted by: rockmom at December 10, 2012 11:56 PM (qe2/V)

332 Ta-152 and Ta-154.

Ta-152 was an improved FW-190D-9. Some D-9/-12s were even fitted with Ta-152 tails.

The Ta-154 Moskito was an all wooden twin fighter designed to kill the DeHavilland Mosquito. Luckily an RAF bombing raid wiped out the plant that made the special glue the Ta-154s needed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 10, 2012 11:57 PM (Fhaif)

333 ...but isn't dry red wine better for you than beer?

Posted by: Thorvald at December 10, 2012 11:57 PM (1V6Pv)

334 Ta-154 was the German version of the British De Havilland Mosquito. Twin engined night fighter/bomber interceptor made of wood. They had problems with the glue eating away the wood at the bond lines. That and engine development problems doomed it..that and being made late in the war.

Posted by: helofixer at December 10, 2012 11:58 PM (REgvX)

335 Too Many Good Men

Hmmm, I could help out with that IYKWIMAITTYD. They gotta like yard work and be handy though, cause i got a lot of projects that stacked up while my mom was sick.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 10, 2012 11:58 PM (+zZLi)

336 Time for a little interlude to watch a movie about the "war on pants"...

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:58 PM (sZTYJ)

337
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:58 PM (sZTYJ)

Didn't know there was a Strike Witches movie

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 11:59 PM (tw6Ar)

338 Please no Strike Witches... the Japanese did remember Marseille in that show. Eeekkk!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:00 AM (Fhaif)

339 I wonder what the intel story was behind a mission to hit a glue factory.

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 12:00 AM (X6eYN)

340 industry bombed to hell and they were still developing planes like that.

Speer pushed for diffusing that which could be diffused pretty early on. Component integration was still an issue with the rail getting hammered all the time, and a lot of war machinery assembly serialized (and stalled) through Schweinfurt's ability to crank out ball bearings...

...we (wisely) pounded the crap out of the ball bearing plants early and often.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:00 AM (bodka)

341 I just lost an eye. It was worth it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 10, 2012 10:39 PM (GEICT)

------------
I can't see a thing at all now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread is glad he learned how to touch-type at December 11, 2012 12:01 AM (5J54Q)

342 starting at 340, and skipping prior reads,

WHAT HAVE I MISSED?



Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM (2CiZb)

343 If we would have went after their oil production sooner, the war would have ended quicker. Ball bearings are great target, but they like everything else needs oil. Without oil you nothing that makes an military run. oil, gas, lube, grease, etc. The British were wasting their time and men bombing cities. German aircraft production rose as the war came to its end..the undoing of the Luftwaffe was the lack of gas for their aircraft.

Posted by: helofixer at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM (REgvX)

344
...but isn't dry red wine better for you than beer?

not financially

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM (kpCLl)

345 Syrian rebels gouge a priests eyes out...


Let's support them...what's the worst that could happen.

(sorry for the downer on an ONT)

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM (sqp6o)

346 Gonna sit down with some hot coco and watch Home Alone, reliving my childhood.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 11, 2012 12:04 AM (NzBQO)

347 Please no Strike Witches... the Japanese did remember Marseille in that show. Eeekkk!


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:00 AM (Fhaif)

the show was a lot fun though

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:04 AM (tw6Ar)

348 Jean I would have to really rummage around to find out. It could have just been a lucky fluke they got the factory.

Germany was churning out fighters like hotcakes. ME-262 production was dispersed widely. The 'rail' production in the forests was something. But lack of fuel and good pilots doomed all the efforts. Bodenplatt did not help either.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:04 AM (Fhaif)

349 .but isn't dry red wine better for you than beer?
not financially
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life

Black Mountain Fat Cat Cabernet at Trader Joe's. $3.99 a bottle. Vastly superior to 2 buck upchuck.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (+zZLi)

350 Now that I
think of it, it's marginally interesting that the Germans used manufacturer
designators, and not service designators, like the Americans did (P-51,
not NAA-51).

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (Z7Nt0)

351
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (+zZLi)

nothing beats MD 20/20 though

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (tw6Ar)

352 Oooooh, Mel Brooks special on HBO right now!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (+zZLi)

353 What's the word?

THUNDERBIRD!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread is glad he learned how to touch-type at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (5J54Q)

354 Foster's ESB was especially de-lish. Tumbler is tasty. I've not tried the Lagunitas yet but people rave about it.

Gonna homebrew some mead - think oak honey / orange marmalade.

Posted by: 13times at December 11, 2012 12:07 AM (h6XiD)

355 251
hi cthulhu!
how are the tentacles tonite


Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2012 11:15 PM (d/5qf)


Howdy, tiger! Tentacles are drooping a bit -- spent much of the afternoon under a bathroom sink....and, while much improved, I had to salvage some parts I should have replaced and it looks like I'll be taking another swing at it tomorrow.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 11, 2012 12:07 AM (kaalw)

356 Leiji Matsumoto's The Cockpit. Luftwaffe captured B-17G being escorted by a Ta-152.
http://youtu.be/kGh9DEGGuMo

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:08 AM (Fhaif)

357 Thanks purpleav, sadly I'm pretty far away, but it might make a good road trip.

Posted by: Lauren at December 11, 2012 12:09 AM (wsGWu)

358 okay, time for bed
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at December 11, 2012 12:10 AM (d/5qf)

359 Make that purpav..just realized I've been reading your name wrong forever...stupid brain.

Posted by: Lauren at December 11, 2012 12:10 AM (wsGWu)

360 I was thinking about how to stop voter fraud. So far everything that is done can be circumvented. What about electronic fingerprinting?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:10 AM (+9AX9)

361 not financially


Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM (kpCLl)


Ms. Peaches, have you tried to buy beer in quantity lately? A twelver has gone up around $3 in the last two years. Mostly due to fields that would have been barley going to corn to get sweet ethanol premiums, much like a loaf of bread is more expensive, since wheat fields are going to corn, and on and on.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 12:10 AM (lJJMb)

362 Syrian rebels gouge a priests eyes out...


Let's support them...what's the worst that could happen.

(sorry for the downer on an ONT)
Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM (sqp6o)


Well what do you expect>


BHO is running guns to everyone Bush II went to war with


Supposedly the US state dept is skyping with the rebels EVERY DAY!

This is just the warm up act on the Mid East, it is going to get worse




Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:11 AM (2CiZb)

363 the undoing of the Luftwaffe was the lack of gas for their aircraft.

That was the whole idea behind the Ploesti raids (which were largely ineffective).

There were dribbles of coal syn-fuel being produced, but those plants were constant targets.

If Hitler had cooled his heels for 5 years he'd have won the war, the Kriegsmarine would have been in top form, the syn-fuel plants built and operational (because you know the other guys are coming after your dead dinosaur oil supplies), and they might even have developed the A-bomb.

Fucker got greedy and it cost...

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:11 AM (bodka)

364 Harley, poll tax

Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2012 12:11 AM (X6eYN)

365 Great. Two more reasons to hate ethanol...

I'm glad we have ethanol-free gasoline here in Oklahoma. Whenever I fill the tank, I imagine I'm telling the Feds where to stick it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 11, 2012 12:12 AM (5J54Q)

366 was thinking about how to stop voter fraud. So far everything that is done can be circumvented. What about electronic fingerprinting?
Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:10 AM (+9AX9)

state issued ID to vote and a purple finger

So easy even the US Army can do it


GO USMC !!!

eleventy!!!!!

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:12 AM (2CiZb)

367 I was thinking about how to stop voter fraud.

Make it a capital crime. If you're not doing it, you don't care, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:15 AM (bodka)

368 343
If we would have went after their oil production sooner, the war would
have ended quicker. Ball bearings are great target, but they like
everything else needs oil. Without oil you nothing that makes an
military run. oil, gas, lube, grease, etc. The British were wasting
their time and men bombing cities. German aircraft production rose as
the war came to its end..the undoing of the Luftwaffe was the lack of
gas for their aircraft.



Posted by: helofixer at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM

The losses that the 9th USAAF took on Operation Tidal Wave at the Ploesti oil fields put a damper on that. 53 B-24's lost and 660 men killed or captured


Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 12:15 AM (wwsoB)

369 I'm glad we have ethanol-free gasoline here in
Oklahoma. Whenever I fill the tank, I imagine I'm telling the Feds where
to stick it.


Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 11, 2012 12:12 AM (5J54Q)


Color me jealous. I pay full price for 15% ethanol and have no choice, despite the fact that it is less efficient. There's no discount. Perhaps that's a good place to open up the next front in local politics, but it looks like a loser, since our governor and his family made their money by way of selling gas and diesel.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 12:16 AM (lJJMb)

370 Germany was churning out fighters like hotcakes.

As a kid, I once got a book on "Military aircraft of the world" for Christmas, spanning from pre-WWI to (then) modern-day. It included graphs of aircraft production by various nations by year during WW2.

I distinctly recall giggling a little when I saw that the American bars went completely off their chart in 1943 and 1944.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:16 AM (v3AGq)

371
Harley, poll tax
Illegal I think.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:16 AM (+9AX9)

372 Ms. Peaches, have you tried to buy beer in quantity lately? A twelver has gone up around $3 in the last two years

Oh, please, I got a twelver of natty lite at target over the weekend for $6.99 and, so far, only one has failed to open. I regularly buy 18-packs of Coors lite at the corner am/pm for $12.99, it's some kind of permanent sale and 2 bucks cheaper that target. I also have personal knowledge of 30-packs of natty for about 16 bucks, I just can't really carry that from the car to the house, so I rarely partake.

Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 11, 2012 12:17 AM (kpCLl)

373
Make it a capital crime. If you're not doing it, you don't care, right?

Those dead people are still voting.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:18 AM (+9AX9)

374 No hobo ever begs for change to buy Rolling Rock

Fun facts: It's no longer brewed in Latrobe PA which is the only place they pronounce it LAYtrobe, everywhere else it's Lah -trobe.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2012 12:18 AM (Xefrb)

375
I just can't really carry that from the car to the house, so I rarely partake.


Try it one at a time!

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:19 AM (+9AX9)

376
Red wine........

Now that's a subject I could enjoin with my own knowledge....cept I'm already a bottle and a half in so....I'll just lurk on this one.

Posted by: Richard at December 11, 2012 12:19 AM (WsDIO)

377 I distinctly recall giggling a little when I saw that the American bars went completely off their chart in 1943 and 1944.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:16 AM (v3AGq)

WWI was the first of 2 things I think

The first Gen 3 war and the first war of production.


For every 1 tank the Germans built we built 4 to 6

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:19 AM (2CiZb)

378 Made that monster a picnic, monsters love picnics.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2012 12:20 AM (Xefrb)

379 Some of the wines I've tasted I think apple cider vinegar and grape juice would taste better.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:21 AM (+9AX9)

380 30-packs of natty for about 16 bucks, I just can't really carry that from the car to the house, so I rarely partake.
Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 11, 2012 12:17 AM (kpCLl)


doesn't a 30 pack of 12oz'ers weigh 24 lbs.?


This was a beer test a few weeks ago

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:22 AM (2CiZb)

381
379!!!

SON!! LET ME TELL YA ABOUT......ooppps....
lurking.

Posted by: Richard at December 11, 2012 12:23 AM (WsDIO)

382 367 I was thinking about how to stop voter fraud.

Make it a capital crime. If you're not doing it, you don't care, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:15 AM (bodka)


That 'capital crime' stuff is just more right wing fear mongering.

Seriously though, it's a felony- has that slowed them at all?

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:23 AM (sqp6o)

383
PurpAv:

The Germans quickly switched as many ball bearing applications as possible to roller bearings. It turned out that lots of applications were suitable. So the Bombing of Schweinfurt's ball bearing factories did cause an immediate problem but overall had far less of an effect on German war production than many histories have claimed.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 11, 2012 12:24 AM (tOkJB)

384 Just opened a SAAZ Republic Pilz, a Czech-style Pilsener from Big Rock Brewing in Calgary. Very tasty indeed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2012 12:24 AM (29+x5)

385 Kd, Im pretty sure the losses during the Schweinfurt/Regensberg are comparable
60 B-17's shot down=600 men lost/POW. then we hit it a second time and lost another 60 or so aircraft. Ball bearing production was affected for a short time, but Germany had built up a massive reserve of ball bearings both local manufacture and imported from Italy Switzerland and Sweden.

Posted by: helofixer at December 11, 2012 12:25 AM (REgvX)

386 heh
http://tinyurl.com/barocoh

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:25 AM (tw6Ar)

387 372
Ms. Peaches, have you tried to buy beer in quantity lately? A twelver has gone up around $3 in the last two years.


Posted by: Peaches, Pats fan for life at December 11, 2012 12:17 AM (kpCLl)


TN has the highest "sin tax" in the country, which applies to tobacco and beer. The tobacco tax is much less than for beer, since we make almost all the round-can dip / snuff produced worldwide. The beer and liquor taxes are ridiculous. Even Bud Light runs about $1 /can these days. See the repression inherent in the system!

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 12:25 AM (lJJMb)

388 367
I was thinking about how to stop voter fraud.

Make it a capital crime. If you're not doing it, you don't care, right?



Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:15 AM (bodka)


With the extra added bonus that those ACORN jerks would be up against the wall.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 11, 2012 12:27 AM (kaalw)

389 What game is this?
http://youtu.be/26kxhuZwhxE

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:27 AM (Fhaif)

390
Richard at December 11, 2012 12:23 AM

I think my taste buds are too shot for the subtle nuances of wine.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:28 AM (+9AX9)

391
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:27 AM (Fhaif)

IL-Sturmovik 1946

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:28 AM (tw6Ar)

392 In vino, veritas.

Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2012 12:28 AM (Ty7ja)

393 you can get a 30 pack of Coors or a similar category for $18,
a 18 pack of the same for $15 here in SW ID


Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:29 AM (2CiZb)

394 err take that back, that is IL-Sturnovik Cliffs of Dover

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:29 AM (tw6Ar)

395 What price, your soul?

Posted by: navybrat at December 11, 2012 12:29 AM (Ty7ja)

396 Well besides being a bit off in the cockpit of the Dauntless and incorrect markings... is the game any good The Dude?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:30 AM (Fhaif)

397 the undoing of the Luftwaffe was the lack of gas for their aircraft.Posted by: helofixer at December 11, 2012 12:03 AM

And the killing of their own pilots. Haven't got the exact figure right now, But, IIRC they were putting so many experienced pilots into combat seats, that they kept exhausting their training cadre. I think the figure was that they lost more in training, than in combat.

Posted by: otho at December 11, 2012 12:30 AM (yBF/9)

398
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:30 AM (Fhaif)

if you can get over the eurojank, it's not bad of a dogfighter sim

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:31 AM (tw6Ar)

399 Seriously though, it's a felony- has that slowed them at all?

A few executions would get their attention. You always need a few examples to demonstrate that you're actually serious.

That combined with a tasty $1M reward to whistle blowers would have them falling all over themselves to turn each other in the moment anyone even looked a little bent.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:31 AM (bodka)

400 #267

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvph0eSb-Hg

Posted by: epobirs at December 11, 2012 12:32 AM (kcfmt)

401 'eurojank?'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:32 AM (Fhaif)

402 312 Beer preference is regional. Even the nationally distributed domestic premiums. It's the local dairy principle.

Sierra Nevada can be found in every liquor and grocery store in California but you'll be hard-put to find Sam Adams in say.. the general store in Fort Bidwell, Ca.


Heh. I actually was in the general store in Fort Bidwell, CA a few months ago. And no I didn't see any Sam Adams there.

Posted by: Maetenloch at December 11, 2012 12:32 AM (XkotV)

403 Their still flying Jugs in Ethiopia, did you know that?

Posted by: ApacheWarrior at December 11, 2012 12:33 AM (0cklW)

404 'eurojank?'


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:32 AM (Fhaif)

Eastern Europe/Russia have their own style of jank in videogames

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:33 AM (tw6Ar)

405
390

Damn shame,
Wine is so woven into the history of man's evolution dating ALL waythe back.
There are some wines (reds) that with the first taste, give one a sense of the good things of mankind. Which is why I do love me the red.....especially now.
A way to remind me of the good things of mankind in the quiet of the evening, under my orange tree......

Posted by: Richard at December 11, 2012 12:36 AM (WsDIO)

406 If Hitler had cooled his heels for 5 years he'd have won the war, the
Kriegsmarine would have been in top form, the syn-fuel plants built and
operational (because you know the other guys are coming after your dead
dinosaur oil supplies), and they might even have developed the A-bomb.


Well, except that he was both a tactical and strategic idiot. He forbade his men to conduct fighting retreats, thus ensuring that the best of the German army and SS were killed.

He insisted on building tank destroyers instead of more vital tanks, and then he demanded that the same superstructure go on two different chassis. He used the first jet fighter as a bomber, and he diverted scarce resources into insane weapons like the Maus, a tank so heavy it couldn't cross any bridges without crushing them. German tanks were built to last decades, while the average tank had a combat lifespan of three weeks.

With Hitler in charge, the Germans were destined to lose, thank God.

Posted by: Llarry at December 11, 2012 12:37 AM (nMCEa)

407 I am not looking up "jank" on urban dictionary.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:37 AM (v3AGq)

408 #337

I felt weird about sending those to my sister and niece. They went to a lot of effort to have an excuse to constantly have a POV between a very young looking girl's thighs.

Posted by: epobirs at December 11, 2012 12:38 AM (kcfmt)

409 No Bass Ale. That's okay, I like whiskey better anyway.

Posted by: Jix at December 11, 2012 12:38 AM (3GvbU)

410 Still a lot C47/DC-3's working Africa today.

I did a few jumps from a DC-3. Godawful loud, and that port engine whips the living crap out of you standing in the door. Its a wonderful aircraft.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:38 AM (bodka)

411 Posted by: @PurpAv at December 11, 2012 12:31 AM (bodka)

If that would happen I'd be supporting it 100 percent.

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:38 AM (sqp6o)

412 I am not looking up "jank" on urban dictionary.


Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:37 AM (v3AGq)

in videogames, it means you have loftier ambitions than your abilities can handle

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:39 AM (tw6Ar)

413 The Oatmeal guy has an airtight case, but DAMN, he said he voted for Obama both times. Yuck.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2012 12:40 AM (xjpRj)

414 in videogames, it means you have loftier ambitions than your abilities can handle

Think I'll use the word "jank" to describe some of our developers, SAP admins, DBAs, etc.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at December 11, 2012 12:40 AM (xKC/c)

415 What's 'Strike Witches?'

And i'm not googling it.

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:41 AM (sqp6o)

416 405

390

Damn shame,
Wine is so woven into the history of man's evolution dating ALL waythe back.
There
are some wines (reds) that with the first taste, give one a sense of
the good things of mankind. Which is why I do love me the
red.....especially now.
A way to remind me of the good things of mankind in the quiet of the evening, under my orange tree......

Posted by: Richard at December 11, 2012 12:36 AM (WsDIO)


Beer actually predates wine -- it was made by the Sumerians over 4000 years ago.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 11, 2012 12:41 AM (kaalw)

417 Anna, thank you. I was obviously confusing the 152 and the 154. At home I'd swivel a round and grab a book to clarify (boy, am I dumb, I had Internet and an iPad at the pub. Duhhh), but I went from rusty memory and I was wrong.

You're still mistaken about Kaga though.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 12:41 AM (aH+zP)

418 What's 'Strike Witches?'



And i'm not googling it.

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:41 AM (sqp6o)

Dogfighting anime with girls being the planes. They were no pants

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:42 AM (tw6Ar)

419 Still a lot C47/DC-3's working Africa today.

The Colombians have AC-47s! Here's video of one in action. They call them the Fantasma or Ghost.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fs6QuxXcwk



Posted by: Llarry at December 11, 2012 12:43 AM (nMCEa)

420 Hey!

WE are smarter that the commenters at the Blaze.

Check out Mark Steyn's post at the Corner at 12:18am EST


shocking I know

Posted by: Jake in ID at December 11, 2012 12:45 AM (2CiZb)

421 www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNtUmNk3XUk

It's pretty elaborate for a massive fan service exercise.

Posted by: epobirs at December 11, 2012 12:48 AM (kcfmt)

422 He insisted on building tank destroyers instead of more vital tanks,

If what I recently read was true, this was a failing of the US Army as well.

They conducted exercises in '42? ... can't remember the details ... and erroneously concluded (it was a pre-conceived conclusion, I believe) that tanks were shit, and tank destroyers were the more important weapon. This influenced their armor decision-making from then on in WW2.

Tank Tactics: From Normandy to Lorraine, that's the book.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:48 AM (v3AGq)

423 The Russians....with a shit ton of land, but no willpower to reproduce, better keep an eye on China.With their inability to populate their land...or defend it...Russia is going to become more and more inviting to the desperate Chinese.

Posted by: Icedog at December 11, 2012 12:49 AM (PTS+l)

424
Posted by: epobirs at December 11, 2012 12:48 AM (kcfmt)

and it's 100% fun

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:50 AM (tw6Ar)

425 Let me add that I don't have a good hold on whether the book is accurate, or hindsight-enhanced gear-grinding.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 12:51 AM (v3AGq)

426 Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:42 AM (tw6Ar)

Seriously?!?

That's crazy but i thought it would be a LOT worse. Like the Magnotta vid.

(let's see, watched the Magnotta vid but still worried about searching out stuff from the HQ.)

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:52 AM (sqp6o)

427 I know we all imagine that Patton's "Rommel, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!" quote is from a movie, but reading the man's biography showed that he had done so. Patton was an educated man in the tradition of military service back in those days (which continues today). http://tinyurl.com/arh9q3y

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 12:54 AM (lJJMb)

428

Beer actually predates wine -- it was made by the Sumerians over 4000 years ago.

Does Noah getting drunk on wine count predate the Sumerians?

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:54 AM (+9AX9)

429 See, you fucking assholes, I was just like Noah!

Posted by: Joseph Hazelwood at December 11, 2012 12:56 AM (v3AGq)

430
390
Dang you!
Harshed my mellow and you are correct once again....
never shoulda de-lurked....

Posted by: Richard at December 11, 2012 12:56 AM (WsDIO)

431 Damn. I need a proofreader.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:56 AM (+9AX9)

432
Harshed my mellow and you are correct once again
I'll savor that since it's my first time ever at being right.

Posted by: harleycowboy at December 11, 2012 12:59 AM (+9AX9)

433 /high-fives Joe

Did you have hot blonde nubile pursers on your ship too?

Very distracting.

Posted by: Francesco Schettino at December 11, 2012 12:59 AM (v3AGq)

434 423
The Russians....with a shit ton of land, but no willpower to reproduce,
better keep an eye on China.With their inability to populate their
land...or defend it...Russia is going to become more and more inviting
to the desperate Chinese.

Posted by: Icedog at December 11, 2012 12:49 AM (PTS+l)


Agreed. China has the population, plenty of Russian 0.5 technology, and a need to eat. If the former sovs start looking weak enough, the Chicoms will eat. They have the numbers, but are at a definite hardware disadvantage. 5 years from now, China's advantage regarding the ability to throw hordes of young unmarried men without purpose, since they can't have jobs - since those went to children of the party, into battle may be enough to overcome all else. There's potential for a new crusade, but coming from the West this time.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:02 AM (lJJMb)

435 The beer thing makes total sense. I live in the People's State of Washington and everyone here swills micros. And about 75% of this state consists of fucking liberal drones.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls und Sheft at December 11, 2012 01:03 AM (0SmH0)

436 If what I recently read was true, this was a failing of the US Army as well.

They
conducted exercises in '42? ... can't remember the details ... and
erroneously concluded (it was a pre-conceived conclusion, I believe)
that tanks were shit, and tank destroyers were the more important
weapon. This influenced their armor decision-making from then on in WW2.


Never understood the tank-destroyer mania. U.S. tank destroyers had open turrets made of thin metal. You could kill the crews with a shrapnel shell or heavy machine-gun fire.

The speed of tank destroyers were supposed to save them, but how do you outrun artillery or machine-gun bullets?

Posted by: Llarry at December 11, 2012 01:04 AM (nMCEa)

437 Some painting done. Futile, worthless, but some painting done. And goodnight. Will be up tomorrow for the Vic news.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2012 01:09 AM (xjpRj)

438 435
The beer thing makes total sense. I live in the People's State of
Washington and everyone here swills micros. And about 75% of this state
consists of fucking liberal drones.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel's Balls und Sheft at December 11, 2012 01:03 AM (0SmH0)


Speaking for Tennesseeans, I'm willing to accept the dumbass taxes on consumer goods...to a point, being as we also do not have a state income tax. We have a 9.375% sales tax on nearly everything, and that should just be the end of it. Why, on an Earth where Ben Franklin himself declared "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." should a single cent be added to a purchase of beer or spirits? It's last-century puritan belief enacted as 21st century policy.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:09 AM (lJJMb)

439 Weirddave, according to all the AARs from Yorktown and Enterprise, no one sank Kaga.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:11 AM (Fhaif)

440 437
Some painting done. Futile, worthless, but some painting done. And goodnight. Will be up tomorrow for the Vic news.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2012 01:09 AM (xjpRj)


My condolences to you. Painting is awful, and something I avoid at all costs. I say that as a guy who builds things at every opportunity.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:12 AM (lJJMb)

441 StPatrick, yeah, but it's art painting, which is worse.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2012 01:13 AM (xjpRj)

442 What's all this about the Kaga?

Did the Nimitz actually do the deed?

Posted by: Waterhouse watches too many Kirk Douglas movies at December 11, 2012 01:14 AM (v3AGq)

443 Oh sad, I don't drink Guiness anymore because the ownerswere bigots who refused to hire Catholics (or even men with Catholic wives) until 1940, and microbrews like Black Butte Porter (next best thing to Guiness) are on the lefty drinker side of the spectrum. I'll just have to switch to Butterscotch Schapps and kill may pancreas my liver at the same time.

Posted by: Mamma B at December 11, 2012 01:18 AM (V3vec)

444 Waterhouse, you mean this?
http://youtu.be/GtAG_5euAio

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:20 AM (Fhaif)

445 Did the Nimitz actually do the deed?


Dive bombers from the Enterprise severely damaged it. The Japanese assessed it as a total loss and scuttled it to keep it out of American hands.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2012 01:20 AM (z9HTb)

446
What no Old Milwaukee?

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 01:20 AM (NIZHJ)

447 439 Weirddave, according to all the AARs from Yorktown and Enterprise, no one sank Kaga.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:11 AM (Fhaif)


I'm telling you, it was Osama bin Laden!

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 01:20 AM (aH+zP)

448 441
StPatrick, yeah, but it's art painting, which is worse.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 11, 2012 01:13 AM (xjpRj)


Isn't art supposed to free you to make what has yet to be made emotionally, esthetically, and physically?

That was a weak attempt at a joke. I've tried writing songs a time or two, so I have to imagine the visual arts are more difficult, if only because a musician can start over at any time, whereas paint is permanent. Is there a worse feeling while making something than the creeping suspicion that doing it just a little differently would be a little better?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:21 AM (lJJMb)

449 With Hitler in charge, the Germans were destined to lose, thank God.


Posted by: Llarry at December 11, 2012 12:37 AM

The Germans also lacked the heavy bombers that the USAAF and RAF had in abundance. The Luftwaffe was designed more as a defense against bombers and close air support instrument for ground battles

The Kreigsmarine had top notch subs and scary ass battlewagons like the Bismarck, but imagine what a difference even light carriers would have made for them. Hitler lacked interest, as he was afraid of the sea


Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 01:23 AM (wwsoB)

450 Akagi, Kaga, and Soryu were all heavily damaged by bombs. The damange control parties could not control the fires. And orders were given to scuttle all three carriers after the Emperor's portraits were removed and crews abandoned ship.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:23 AM (Fhaif)

451 Wheat and Blue Mountain Flower make a Potion ofFortify Health.

Posted by: Dovakhin at December 11, 2012 01:24 AM (NIZHJ)

452 Hmmm. Tomcats and Intruders.

/cries just a little, maybe

/fuck you, it's dusty in here, asswipes!

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:25 AM (v3AGq)

453 The loss of Graf Spee to a force of British cruisers followed by Bismarck's loss, cooled Hitler to the whole idea of a real fleet action.

Doenitz was livid with Hitler's stumble into war. Just a couple more years and he would have had enough U-boats to starve England. As it is he still came close.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:26 AM (Fhaif)

454 Regarding the "Fun fact about China" part: . . . apparently I'm not smart enough to figure out the commenting section on Moe Lane's site because I was going to leave a comment there but couldn't figure out how. So I'll leave it here:

Yes, China is starting to import a lot of food, and it looks like that will continue for a while. I saw a presentation last week that 5 different companies are investing $400-$500 million dollars in the next 2-5 years to expand grain export facilities in the Pacific Northwest (not sure if that was just U.S. Pac NW, or U.S. Canadian Pac Nw) by about 450-585 million bushels. That is mostly due to expectations of increased exports to China.

And yes, the Chinese are using up their own arable land at a frightening pace. Not sure if it's currently mostly due to desertification, but about 10 years ago I saw an article saying they were losing arable land due to cities -- most of their arable land was in river valleys, which is where most of their cities were too, and they were expanding their cities over the top of their arable land.

And as Moe Lane commented, communists (and all central planners) are horrible at taking care of the land. P.J. O'Rourke made many observations along those lines when he was traveling in communist (and former communist) countries in the 1980s and 1990s.

Posted by: camille at December 11, 2012 01:27 AM (E29pD)

455 Waterhouse, just think if we had Air Wings full of F-14D Tomcats instead of the F-18E Rhinos.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:27 AM (Fhaif)

456 439
Weirddave, according to all the AARs from Yorktown and Enterprise, no one sank Kaga.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:11 AM

Explorations of the Bismarck wreck by Robert Ballard turned up evidence that backed German claims that the ship was scuttled by the crew because the British hadn't done enough damage to sink it.

As I said, thankfully for history the Germans never developed an aircraft carrier

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 01:27 AM (wwsoB)

457 The Kreigsmarine did have an aircraft carrier, the Graf Zeppelin. Just it was never pursued.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:28 AM (Fhaif)

458 443
Oh sad, I don't drink Guiness anymore because the ownerswere bigots who
refused to hire Catholics (or even men with Catholic wives) until 1940,
and microbrews like Black Butte Porter (next best thing to Guiness) are
on the lefty drinker side of the spectrum. I'll just have to switch to
Butterscotch Schapps and kill may pancreas my liver at the same time.

Posted by: Mamma B at December 11, 2012 01:18 AM (V3vec)


Mamma B, I'm an Irish-Catholic and come from a long line of them. Guiness was ours first in spite of their attempts to take it away. Let them think they have it, and it means they've made some kind of victory. I doubt they've done any such thing, seeing as modern manufacturing is not often informed of history. I'll continue to drink Guinness in Pub Cans or Draft at every opportunity. Their bottle offering is shit, and I recommend nobody try to drink them. There's not a glass in the world you can pour a Guinness pressurized bottle into which turns it into draft Guinness. What you get is a miserable hops-forward(!) flat version of a stout at first taste - the nose is unlike any pint you've ever had. The mouthfeel is awful, it has the metallic aftertaste of a bad red ale, and has nothing in common with a proper Guiness.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:30 AM (lJJMb)

459 442 What's all this about the Kaga?

Did the Nimitz actually do the deed?
Posted by: Waterhouse watches too many Kirk Douglas movies at December 11, 2012 01:14 AM (v3AGq)

Anna is an formidable historian ( look at how she set me right in this thread WRT planes). She also holds the traditional view, best put forth by the brilliant Samuel Morrison, who literally wrote the book on the Pacific theatre, that planes from Enterprise sank Kaga and Akagi at Midway, while Yorktown took out Soryu. I am an heretic historian who believes that Dr. Teluja got it right with his research that shows Leslie from Yorktown sinking Kaga. It's stupid pedantic shit of interest only to moss bound academics and idiot amateur historians. The US Navy, as a whole, kicked major ass. This is just discussion-over-a-beer stuff.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 01:31 AM (aH+zP)

460 Doenitz was livid with Hitler's stumble into war.
Just a couple more years and he would have had enough U-boats to starve
England. As it is he still came close.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:26 AM

Close until the US Atlantic fleet added light carriers to the escort groups. Cut down the numbers of U-Boats considerably

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 01:32 AM (wwsoB)

461 Fucking around with German aircraft carriers and deadly sub fleets is what Hearts of Iron (and II, and III) are for.

Also, nuking New York and Los Angeles.

/denounces self

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:33 AM (v3AGq)

462 And to be fair, the subs in HoI II kinda suck donkey balls.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:35 AM (v3AGq)

463 One interesting note from the Pacific theater is that the British lost few if any carriers to kamikazee attacks

The Royal Navy used steel flight decks, while for some reason the US Navy stayed with wooden decks

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 01:35 AM (wwsoB)

464 Things to Say to an Obama Voter Who Just Got Laid Off
1. "Hey, at least that successful Mormon businessman didn't win."
2. "Didn't your lady parts warn you t...his would happen?"
3. "Look at the Bright Side, Gay marriage passed in four states."
4. "Hey, Big Bird still has a job. Isn't that the important thing?"
5. "I am sure Obama cares deeply about your situation. Maybe he'll send you a postcard from Hawaii."
6. "Well, look at the bright side, Rush Limbaugh is getting a massive tax increase."
7. "Hey! Now you'll have more time to play with your unicorn."
8. "Isn't it worth losing your job to know that religious organizations now have to pay for abortions and contraceptives?"
9. "Well, now you and Keith Olbermann have something else in common."
10. "Forward!"

Posted by: Icedog at December 11, 2012 01:36 AM (PTS+l)

465 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:26 AM


Close until the US Atlantic fleet added light carriers to the escort groups. Cut down the numbers of U-Boats considerably



Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 01:32 AM (wwsoB)


True as stated. What do you see happening if Doenitz gets his wish in terms of planning? This an aspect of WWII I am thoroughly unfamilar with.


Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:36 AM (lJJMb)

466 Got my passport today. One step closer to fanfest

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 01:36 AM (2jh8d)

467 Yeah Waterhouse, its all good between Weirddave and me. Not like those USAAF lunkheads who got to Oahu first and claimed they won the Battle of Midway. A B-17 AAR stated they sank a ship of the Normandie class because that was the largest ship the pilot knew of.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:37 AM (Fhaif)

468 Anybody else slowly grinding their way through that "Atlantic" article? I'll admit it's got my full attention; I'm popping back in here from time to time. It feels close to home - this kind of thing didn't just happen in Memphis or Chicago.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:40 AM (lJJMb)

469 Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 10, 2012 11:58 PM (sZTYJ)

Didn't know there was a Strike Witches movie

Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2012 11:59 PM (tw6Ar)
338 Please no Strike Witches... the Japanese did remember Marseille in that show. Eeekkk!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 12:00 AM (Fhaif)


I'm still curious what Charles Yeager thinks about being portrayed as a busty usagi-mimi girl flying around in pantsu...

http://bit.ly/S1CaTI

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 11, 2012 01:40 AM (sZTYJ)

470 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:02 AM (lJJMb)

The Chinese have proven time and time again that they have no reservations when it comes to sacrificing millions of their young men in order to achieve a political goal.

You expand your lands, and rid yourself of the problem you created with your single child (aka, abort all your females) policy. Win-win!

Posted by: Icedog at December 11, 2012 01:41 AM (PTS+l)

471 What's 'Strike Witches?'



And i'm not googling it.

Posted by: RWC at December 11, 2012 12:41 AM (sqp6o)

Dogfighting anime with girls being the planes. They were no pants

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 12:42 AM (tw6Ar)


Magical Mecha Musume Kemono-mimi who blast aliens... without pants.

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 11, 2012 01:41 AM (sZTYJ)

472 466
Got my passport today. One step closer to fanfest

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 01:36 AM (2jh8d)


Fanfest? Where you going?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:42 AM (lJJMb)

473 467 Yeah Waterhouse, its all good between Weirddave and me. Not like those USAAF lunkheads who got to Oahu first and claimed they won the Battle of Midway. A B-17 AAR stated they sank a ship of the Normandie class because that was the largest ship the pilot knew of.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:37 AM (Fhaif)

I think it was the Graf Zeppelin.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 01:42 AM (aH+zP)

474 What's the word?

THUNDERBIRD!!!!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread is glad he learned how to touch-type at December 11, 2012 12:06 AM (5J54Q)


Thunderbirds are Go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfIAKj3Gl1E

Posted by: International Rescue at December 11, 2012 01:43 AM (sZTYJ)

475 True as stated. What do you see happening if Doenitz
gets his wish in terms of planning? This an aspect of WWII I am
thoroughly unfamilar with.




Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:36 AM

American production was as such that no matter how many U-Boats that Doenitz got, we could produce far more than they could have shot down

The Sherman tank was considered to be a widow making piece of shit by all sides, but we made so many of them the superior quality of the Mark IV's, Tigers, and Panthers.

It also worked to our advantage that the Battle of Kursk cut down on the quantity of Wehrmacht tanks considerably



Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 01:44 AM (wwsoB)

476 Interesting. I've read more than a few books about Midway, and this is the first I've heard about a controversy as to who sunk what.

The 'Q rulez!

I don't remember if the guys from "Shattered Sword" have an opinion.

Other than that Japanese damage control and fire-fighting techniques were ultra-crap.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:44 AM (v3AGq)

477 Fanfest? Where you going?


Iceland

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 01:44 AM (hQFp3)

478 Hey Anna, you don't by any chance happen to live in the mid-Atlantic states, do you? Splitting a pitcher of beer with you strikes me as about one of the most enjoyable things I can think of.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 01:46 AM (aH+zP)

479 Twinkies are $11.09 on Amazon.

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 01:46 AM (NIZHJ)

480 "Doenitz was livid with Hitler's stumble into war.
Just a couple more years and he would have had enough U-boats to starve
England. As it is he still came close."

Hitler promised him there wouldn't be war until the Kriegsmarine had 600 subs, while I think they actually had about 1/3 of that in 1939. But what military commander ever gets the material he thinks he ought to get?

"Close until the US Atlantic fleet added light carriers to the escort groups. Cut down the numbers of U-Boats considerably"

The allies didn't have an effective defense against U-boats until the summer of '43. It wasn't just carriers, either. By that time we'd produced enough destroyers that we had groups tasked specifically with hunting submarines. Before then destroyers on escort duty would have to break off hunting attackers or risk leaving the convoy undefended, so the Germans could just sit tight for a few hours and get back to business.

Once you have dedicated hunters that can hang around for a few days, a submarine that can't exceed one knot without being detected and runs out of air in 24 hours is in serious trouble.

If you like this kind of stuff I recommend the game "Silent Hunter III" with the Grey Wolves mod. You realize what a hopeless position German submariners were in by the later stages of the war.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 01:47 AM (1+XRG)

481 Zakn,
Spentthree anda halfyears stationed in Iceland (was on Keflavik, with the squids). Loved that place....the people refuse to wear any color other than black and the women are gorgeous...although the men there REALLY don't like foreigners banging their women (more so than other countries).

Also, I'm not a big lamb eating guy, but you must get a lamb dog while you are there (with the frie onions and mustard). Best hotdog you will ever eat!

Posted by: Icedog at December 11, 2012 01:49 AM (PTS+l)

482 The Royal Navy always built its carriers with more armour than the Americans. The British were willing to trade large air groups for more survivable ships. Early war they lost carriers to U-boats[Ark Royal] and to German surface raiders[Glorious with flight deck fouled with refugee Hurricanes]. RN carriers when they did make it to the Pacific were thus far harder to sink via kamikaze. IIRC HMS Indomitable took such a hard hit her keel was knocked out of true, but she did not sink and stayed in combat.

The American theory was the most airplanes per ship. The Essex class was designed before Pearl Harbor for such large air groups and more importantly to be series produced. So the US went for no armored hanger decks and wood over steel flight decks. So USS Franklin ended up being a gutted ship that never saw combat again.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 01:49 AM (Fhaif)

483 477
Fanfest? Where you going?





Iceland

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 01:44 AM (hQFp3)


They have things in Iceland? In that case, have a (non-volcanic) blast! KSP 0.18.1 has been fun today. That kurtjmac guy I mentioned awhile ago does a good KSP series whenh he's on it. Seems like he's getting paid on the Minecraft side, but when he does KSP, it's worth watching.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 11, 2012 01:49 AM (lJJMb)

484
Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at December 11, 2012 01:40 AM (sZTYJ)

There are some full body pillows of Charlotte

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 01:50 AM (tw6Ar)

485 Twinkies are $11.09 on Amazon.

/inferno of rage

Posted by: Moochelle of Obama, Stalwart Defender of Teh Nutritions at December 11, 2012 01:50 AM (v3AGq)

486 I use Mozilla Firefox. Trying to get the hang of Internet Explorer. This thing sucks ass. Where are the controls?

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 01:54 AM (NIZHJ)

487 Apropos of not much, the USN will take ten years to crank out the Gerald Ford.

Compare with the mind-blowing shit-ton of Essex-classes beyotches American shipyards churned out in WW2.

Yes, yes, quantity vs quality and all that.

Still.

Fuck.

Lose one of those new CVNs in an actual conflict, and ponder how long to replace it.

Pray it never comes to that.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:54 AM (v3AGq)

488 Waterhouse, read the book Climax at Midway by Thaddeus Teluja. The "controversy" is all laid out in appendix B "Who sank Kaga. It doesn't matter in the big picture. We won going away.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 01:55 AM (aH+zP)

489 Re: Section 8

The government decides to fix a problem. So they do something that seems to make sense to them without testing or checking the results, and it kills people, and they will keep doing it even though it kills innocent people, because it's "embarrassing" to talk about it.

THIS IS WHY government needs to be smaller. Because people in large groups with power is a horrifically, abyssally dangerous and stupid combination.

And it wasn't a "noble experiment," it was theft and imposition and self-righteous idiocy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 01:56 AM (bxiXv)

490 Cory Booker is calling for "National Food Justice"

We all know what the left means when they call for "justice"... be it "social justice" or "economic justice"

He wants to ration our food according to the whims of people like Michele Obama...

This will not end well...

I can't stand the fat man in NJ, but Booker MUST be stopped no matter what.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 01:58 AM (sZTYJ)

491 The CVN may be approaching the status of battleships in WW II. Not completely useless, but not worth building, either. We don't need 'em to destroy other navies and they don't have the strike range to be effective land attackers. Also, with AIP subs and missiles like the DF-21D they're getting much more difficult to protect.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 01:58 AM (1+XRG)

492 Waterhouse, read the book Climax at Midway by Thaddeus Teluja.

Bookmarked, will do, thanks!

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 01:59 AM (v3AGq)

493 Luckily the Nips didn't have Longbows.

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 02:01 AM (NIZHJ)

494 Alas Weirddave, no mid-Atlantic domicile. South of the Mason-Dixon am I.

The British were a bit put out when they received American built CVEs. The ship captains were offended by the lack of a bath, they had to adapt to American style showers. Poor dears.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:02 AM (Fhaif)

495 I am looking forward to going to Iceland for sure. I will look out for a lamb dog. I have cooked and eaten more lamb lately. It's been growing on me

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 02:04 AM (Qci+c)

496
You had to read it to find out what was in it.



WASHINGTON -- Your medical plan is facing an unexpected expense, so
you probably are, too. It's a new, $63-per-head fee to cushion the cost
of covering people with pre-existing conditions under President Barack
Obama's health care overhaul.


The charge, buried in a recent regulation, works out to tens of
millions of dollars for the largest companies, employers say. Most of
that is likely to be passed on to workers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 11, 2012 02:04 AM (n/ubI)

497 Still not read 'Shattered Sword.' I read the reviews and people saying its ground breaking. All the blurbs seem to indicate is 'Shattered Sword' better explains how the Japanese, in how they conducted their air ops and how they performed damage control, screwed the pooch royally. And also calling writers like Okumiya and Fuchida liars trying to cover up their failings.

Japanese damage control never got better. Taiho sank more from the post torpedo explosions than the torpedo. Shinano, good gosh what were the Japanese thinking, sending an unfinished aircraft carrier without watertight doors out to sea where the rookie US submarine Archer-Fish got lucky and sank her.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:07 AM (Fhaif)

498 While not entirely germane to the current carrier noodling, Alistair MacLean's North Atlantic convoy thriller HMS Ulysses would've made an awesome fucking film. Odd no studio ever bothered to film it, even back in MacLean's "Where Eagles Dare" etc. heyday.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:07 AM (v3AGq)

499 The British were a bit put out when they received
American built CVEs. The ship captains were offended by the lack of a
bath, they had to adapt to American style showers. Poor dears.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:02 AM

The crews probably appreciated the size of the galleys and commissaries though. All parties were astonished over how well fed American military personnel were, although by our standards today they were starvation rations


Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 02:09 AM (wwsoB)

500 One factor in the Battle of the Atlantic was the improvement in the range of B-24's which could recon and bomb wolf packs from bases in Newfoundland

Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2012 02:12 AM (wwsoB)

501 I wouldn't call "Shattered Sword" as much ground-breaking as, I guess, "completist".

It gives a really good, well-grounded, description of why the Japanese did what they did, when they did, at Midway. In other words, it wasn't all unicorn farts and sunshine, it was not a little rigid Japanese doctrine which lead to their mistakes.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:17 AM (v3AGq)

502 494
Alas Weirddave, no mid-Atlantic domicile. South of the Mason-Dixon am I.

Anywhere along the I-95 corridor? My birth mother lives in Florida, and even though we're on outs at the moment due to the election, I'm sure I'll be driving down there sometime this coming year.

Waterhouse, let me know what you think whenever you get around to the book. Weirddave at gmail dot com.

And Anna, they never did get any better at damage control, did they? Yorktown avoided Lexington's fate by changing damage control procedures, specifically WRT fuel lines, Taiho blew up because a junior officer vented gas fumes into the ship at large. One spark...BOOM! Funny that. On such minor details do empires swing.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 02:18 AM (aH+zP)

503 "And Anna, they never did get any better at damage control, did they? Yorktown avoided Lexington's fate by changing damage control procedures, specifically WRT fuel lines, Taiho blew up because a junior officer vented gas fumes into the ship at large. One spark...BOOM! Funny that. On such minor details do empires swing."

But would it have mattered, in the end? By Leyte Gulf the Japanese had plenty of carriers but not enough planes and almost no experienced pilots at all. They were reduced to using their remaining carriers as bait in an effort to sneak battleships into range.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 02:21 AM (1+XRG)

504 Feliz Navidad ONTer's. I find drinking wine coolers with several ounces of vodka speeds things along nicely. Cut to the chase so to speak...

Posted by: zeera at December 11, 2012 02:22 AM (3dXwx)

505 Enjoy the night off zeera

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 02:24 AM (DHOyR)

506 Cut to the chase

To spiral off in an entirely different direction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3H7kFDpQDM

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:25 AM (v3AGq)

507 One of those videos that should be rewatched from time to time:

Margarette Thatcher on socialism:

http://youtu.be/rv5t6rC6yvg

"Provided the 'gap' was smaller, they [the liberals] would rather the poor be poorer"

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 02:25 AM (sZTYJ)

508 Lexington and Saratoga had their AV gas tanks built integral with the hull. So when Lexington was hit, the jarring actually caused the tanks to start to leak. And when Sherman secured from General Quarters a machine room was restarted. Which gave the spark that doomed the great ship. Later carriers the AV gas tanks were not directly attached to the hull. Almost like bulletproof gas tanks for carriers. That helped.

But yeah the switch over to purging the fuel lines of all gas and filling them with CO2 was a major step forward. Still did not help Wasp when she caught Long Lance while fueling. BOOM. Major kudos has to go to the damage control parties who seemed to always perform miracles. Yorktown at Midway for shaking off two air attacks and still being able to carry the fight to the enemy.

As for location, Jackson, MS.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:28 AM (Fhaif)

509 Food justice? Isn't Booker the one who wanted to try a stunt where he lived on food stamps for a week? I don't know about Newark, but the "poor" here in Philly don't have a starvation problem.

I'd love to see the reaction from the base if they decided to limit the EBT card purchases to "healthy" foods only. Methinks they wouldn't be happy.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 11, 2012 02:29 AM (yJYwC)

510 "Margarette Thatcher on socialism: "

Sigh. We could really use someone like that now.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 02:33 AM (1+XRG)

511 Even as a dumb little shit, I always thought "Wasp" was such a cool fucking name for such a poor unlucky ship.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g10000/g16331.jpg

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:33 AM (NPdGx)

512 The Battle of Midway killed off about 300 of the IJN's best pilots. Which was a hard blow. What finally finished off the cream of the IJN's pilot corps was the Solomon Islands campaign. Japan kept throwing all those men, ships, and planes to fight until wounded or dead. Meanwhile the US, after the first few hard months, rotated their pilots out.

The only 'good' thing about the US losing Wasp and Hornet, their air group survivors went ashore at Henderson Field where they helped turn the tide.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:33 AM (Fhaif)

513 Food justice? Isn't Booker the one who wanted to try a stunt where he lived on food stamps for a week? I don't know about Newark, but the "poor" here in Philly don't have a starvation problem.

I'd love to see the reaction from the base if they decided to limit the EBT card purchases to "healthy" foods only. Methinks they wouldn't be happy.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 11, 2012 02:29 AM (yJYwC)


That's the stunt he references here: http://linkd.in/S1GG4H

IIRC, EBT pays $210 per person per month.

I live on less then that for food, and I'm not starving.

The fact that refers to "justice" is a dead give away for his ultra-left intentions. "Justice" is one of the dog-whistles the far left uses. Booker may come across as a "moderate," but that is what makes him so dangerous.

Booker must be crushed. Totally and absolutely.

He is that dangerous. Just imagine the chance to smash Obama before he became a U. S. Senator. We have that chance to stop Booker. We MUST take it.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 02:34 AM (sZTYJ)

514 He is that dangerous. Just imagine the chance to smash Obama before he became a U. S. Senator. We have that chance to stop Booker. We MUST take it.

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 02:34 AM (sZTYJ)


Or Governor... or anything else...

Posted by: The Political Hat at December 11, 2012 02:35 AM (sZTYJ)

515 #486

Which version are you using? Make sure you aren't in kiosk mode by pressing F11 to toggle.

Posted by: epobirs at December 11, 2012 02:35 AM (kcfmt)

516 Luckily the Nips didn't have Longbows.

chortle!

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:39 AM (NPdGx)

517 CV-7 USS Wasp weighed in at 14,700 tons. She was the last US carrier built under the Naval Treaties hence her small displacement. FDR loaned her to the British in early 1942. She off-loaded her air group at Scapa Flow and twice ferried Spitfires to the besieged island of Malta. Churchill quipped about a wasp being able to sting twice. Her air group carried out combat operations from Scapa Flow against the Germans.

After the loss of Lexington and Yorktown, Wasp was transferred to the Pacific. Which brought Nimitz' up to four carriers - Saratoga, Enterprise, Hornet, and Wasp. The escort carrier Long Island was being used as an aircraft ferry. After supporting Operation Watchtower, Wasp was hit by a torpedo while refueling her aircraft. And she quickly went down.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:40 AM (Fhaif)

518 Mrs. North has a bug in her belly. So we're UP for the night.

Posted by: Truman North at December 11, 2012 02:41 AM (UFQGb)

519 Hey Zakn! Sadly, I'm at woik so it's black coffee this evening. But Friday is closing in... We got 5" of snow; what was your total?

Posted by: zeera at December 11, 2012 02:41 AM (3dXwx)

520 BRING THAT SNOW TO MEEEEE!!!!

Posted by: The Dude at December 11, 2012 02:42 AM (tw6Ar)

521 I'll tell you what TPH, I'll never underestimate a Dem politician again. Or overestimate the American public's awareness.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 11, 2012 02:42 AM (yJYwC)

522 we hit 60 degrees here in Massachusetts today. It's still about 45.

Posted by: Truman North at December 11, 2012 02:43 AM (I2LwF)

523 "I'll tell you what TPH, I'll never underestimate a Dem politician again. Or overestimate the American public's awareness. "

Aye. It's difficult to stave off the idea your fellow citizens are fucking idiots at times.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 02:45 AM (1+XRG)

524 And she quickly went down.

Unlike some tasty WASPs I know.

/denounces self yet again

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:45 AM (NPdGx)

525 I thought Abe Books had some high prices. On Amazon, John Foster's 'Hell in the Heavens' someone wants $227.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:46 AM (Fhaif)

526 BRING THAT SNOW TO MEEEEE!!!!

Ecccch,

The longer gerbil worming casts its spell this winter, the better for me, as I try to decide between a new set of snows on a tired old car, and a new used car.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:47 AM (NPdGx)

527 Waterhouse, are you snorkeling?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:47 AM (Fhaif)

528 11ish. I live close to the airport, so thier total usually works for me

Posted by: Zakn at December 11, 2012 02:47 AM (HhX5h)

529 "I thought Abe Books had some high prices. On Amazon, John Foster's 'Hell in the Heavens' someone wants $227."

I think some sellers list high just hoping you'll mis-click.

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 02:47 AM (1+XRG)

530 They can keep dreaming, got my copy from a used book store. Love such places. Mine mine mine!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:48 AM (Fhaif)

531 Waterhouse, are you snorkeling?

I honestly am not sure if this is some kind of ribald euphemism.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:51 AM (NPdGx)

532 So tonite one of my students lets it slip that he's been shot 6 times. By 9mmHP. Oh hai

Posted by: DAve at December 11, 2012 02:52 AM (XDC0v)

533 Anti-scumvilles: Only a liberal would think that spreading scum around would improve the scum.

God is the only one who can take scum and transform....us.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at December 11, 2012 02:53 AM (+XVQe)

534 It's funny how the section 8 housing never end up in the upscale lefty enclaves, only formerly solid middle-class neighborhoods. I wonder why that is.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 11, 2012 02:55 AM (yJYwC)

535 534 It's funny how the section 8 housing never end up in the upscale lefty enclaves, only formerly solid middle-class neighborhoods. I wonder why that is.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 11, 2012 02:55 AM (yJYwC)


No you don't.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 02:57 AM (bxiXv)

536 "Oerlikons Bofors" would be a good name for a 6/8 song.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:57 AM (NPdGx)

537 Dammit, Pixy's appetite for ampersands strikes again.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:58 AM (NPdGx)

538 534 It used to be considered good manners to assume good intentions. I'm glad those days seem to be coming to an end.

Posted by: DAve at December 11, 2012 02:58 AM (XDC0v)

539 Waterhouse, I have no idea what you mean.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 02:59 AM (Fhaif)

540 @

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 02:59 AM (NIZHJ)

541 The Swiss and the Swedes
Pumped out shit we need

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 02:59 AM (NPdGx)

542 "So tonite one of my students lets it slip that he's been shot 6 times. By 9mmHP."

You should lean over and whisper "You know, we got Tupac eventually."

Posted by: Ace's liver at December 11, 2012 03:00 AM (1+XRG)

543 The cancer may not start in the elite liberal enclaves, but cancer does not recognize barriers once it goes into full kill mode.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:00 AM (Fhaif)

544 You're right, forgot the sarc tag......

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 11, 2012 03:01 AM (yJYwC)

545 I'm an engineer, not a poet
The bass and rhymes, I don't throw it!

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 03:01 AM (NPdGx)

546 epobirs
Looks like the default was kiosk mode.

Posted by: Butters at December 11, 2012 03:01 AM (NIZHJ)

547 Ecch.

/cringes

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 03:02 AM (NPdGx)

548 Anna, you do this for a living, don't you? I'm good, I majored in military history after accounting and I disagreed in college, but for me it's been a hobby whilst raising a family and working to support them. You're better. Miles better. Madam, I doff my cap to you.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 11, 2012 03:06 AM (aH+zP)

549 543 The cancer may not start in the elite liberal enclaves, but cancer does not recognize barriers once it goes into full kill mode.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:00 AM (Fhaif)


It is amazing how generally close to home the cancer stays, however.

A "rule of thumb" well-known before Section 8 Housing began.

There are virtually zero-crime neighborhoods here 3-5 blocks away from high-crime neighborhoods.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 03:06 AM (bxiXv)

550 I was on a business trip to Austin TX one time, waitress at the Lone Star Cafe asked my co-worker when she was due. I cringed and leaned away as the coworker yells 'I'M NOT PREGNANT'. The poor waitress opened and closed her mouth a few times and then says, 'No, I didn't think you were'. She didn't get a tip. The lesson to never assume a woman is PG was burned into my brain forever more.

Posted by: zeera at December 11, 2012 03:07 AM (3dXwx)

551 542 No f'n way. These people ain't normal.

Posted by: DAve at December 11, 2012 03:08 AM (XDC0v)

552 WeirdDave, no do not do this for a living. Its a hobby. Think I should perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:11 AM (Fhaif)

553 Well ain't that a bitch. I can't actually find a clip of a WW2-era quad 40mm Bofors firing on YouTube.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 03:12 AM (NPdGx)

554 552 WeirdDave, no do not do this for a living. Its a hobby. Think I should perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:11 AM (Fhaif)


I've got an idea.

You could write a book.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 03:12 AM (bxiXv)

555 Waterhouse, from Vietnam. Brown water navy. USS Benwah's crew practicing.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1145/660/1600/bofors.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:14 AM (Fhaif)

556 Merovign, write a book. By Zeus! What an astounding idea! Subject suggestions?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:15 AM (Fhaif)

557 Whoops USS Benewah, APB-35, assigned to the Mobile Riverine Force TF-117.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:16 AM (Fhaif)

558 With audio, and ambition, I could turn AA fire into marginally-interesting bass track.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 03:19 AM (NPdGx)

559 556 Merovign, write a book. By Zeus! What an astounding idea! Subject suggestions?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:15 AM (Fhaif)


Well, cats, obviously!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 03:21 AM (bxiXv)

560 Nyah!!

This needs to be played at the White House
http://youtu.be/iGNIDXUaVts

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:22 AM (Fhaif)

561 This needs to be played at the White House
http://youtu.be/iGNIDXUaVts

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 11, 2012 03:22 AM (Fhaif)


*Facepalms*

Posted by: Xenu at December 11, 2012 03:26 AM (sZTYJ)

562Bofors, and Oerlikons,
favoured by the neo-cons


/dark slashes through trendy Moleskine notebook

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 03:30 AM (NPdGx)

563 558 With audio, and ambition, I could turn AA fire into marginally-interesting bass track.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 03:19 AM (NPdGx)


One of my favorite pieces of music opens with about 30 seconds of percussion, in which is hidden not one but two tunes, subtly, so that you might not immediately notice them.

Followed by a fairly intense chorus.

It's by Jack Wall and though it's from the game Mass Effect 2, it's not separately on the soundtrack, it's ripped from the game files. there's always more music there than on the soundtrack.

It's in the 33 minute "extended" Suicide Mission Score on youtube. It's about 25 minutes in.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 03:32 AM (bxiXv)

564 Threadkilla!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2012 03:43 AM (bxiXv)

565 Threadkilla!

Moid-eh-ah-ah!

Seriously, how could those unimaginative Swiss fucks not think to record the characteristic stammer of an Oerlikon?

Toblerone-chewing bastards.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2012 04:01 AM (NPdGx)

566 Good evening again.

Great, a night with nothing to do but now mi estomago is feeling muy malo.

Aye!

Posted by: Robert at December 11, 2012 04:11 AM (4ixH5)

567 Aaaaaannnnnddddd I notice the thread's dead.

So no one will see me mention the fact that the Lord Of The Rings: Extended Edition bluray boxset is on sale for $39.99 at Amazon, the Alien Anthology is on sale for $30 bucks and the X-Men Trilogy is on sale for $20.

Support your local Ewok, motherfuckers!

Posted by: Robert at December 11, 2012 04:12 AM (4ixH5)

568 Posted by: Robert at December 11, 2012 04:12 AM (4ixH5)




Gushka was around a couple of days ago, and was looking for you to pose on a TPAKTOP,

Posted by: cthulhu at December 11, 2012 04:22 AM (kaalw)

569 The most inappropriate gift ever for a 13 year old girl.

MFG - I run a simple search for gifts for 13 year olds, and this is what comes up
http://tinyurl.com/d2gvw3s

Yea, if someone wants to be labeled and shunned forever.

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 04:30 AM (2t6Gz)

570 Ah yes...searching "for gifts". Right.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 11, 2012 04:45 AM (Y5I9o)

571 MFG - I run a simple search for gifts for 13 year olds, and this is what comes up

Maybe it was a reference to the character from House.

Posted by: Methos at December 11, 2012 04:51 AM (hO9ad)

572 The description is worse than the gift:

Panty-minimalists love our casual thong that covers sweet spots without covering your assets;

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 04:58 AM (2t6Gz)

573 Gushka was around a couple of days ago, and was looking for you to pose on a TPAKTOP,


Posted by: cthulhu at December 11, 2012 04:22 AM (kaalw)

I haven't been on Facebook much in the past week. Hell, I haven't checked my email much either!
I should do that.
*Poses heroicly*

Posted by: Robert at December 11, 2012 04:59 AM (4ixH5)

574 When my own kid was about 10, or 14, don't recall, she wanted a bookbag from Dicks Sporting Goods. She wanted to know the hours they were open so not thinking I said hell if I know, look it up on the Internet. That was a mistake. In later years google started filtering out the results she was shown.

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 05:01 AM (2t6Gz)

575 A beer study, That's something worthwhile that I could see gummit bucks invested into.

I'm drinking Jujiang pijou..Pearl river beer. It did not show up on the study. It tastes like crap but better than most American beer. I choose beer by alcohol content,and this one be 11 points!

The Germans taught the Chinese how to brew and they be good at copying stuff!

A kinks tribute..

Have another drink, it will make you feel better!

Have another drink and you'll feel alright!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 11, 2012 05:07 AM (lGsIm)

576 Younling - always a good choice, and smack dab in the middle of high turnout republican. I prefer the extra large can.

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 05:14 AM (2t6Gz)

577 I don't always spell my beer right, but when I do (look it up) I spell Yuengling. Old and blind, on a 12 inch netbook, that photo of beers doesn't do me much good.

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 05:19 AM (2t6Gz)

578 Yuengling be good! but pricey!

a buddy asked.".Why did you buy 10 SKS's and a scoped mosin?"

My reply..."I got a bulk deal..cheaper than 1 AR."

He also asked "Why do you drink Chinese beer?"

My reply...."Because it's here!"



Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 11, 2012 05:27 AM (lGsIm)

579 It's a little pricey. I usually get a six pack of bud light platinum, and 1 or 2 Yuengling in a pint can to end it with a good taste.

Posted by: Whatev at December 11, 2012 05:32 AM (2t6Gz)

580 The beer chart ignores geography. When I'm here in the southern compound, I drink Bud Lite and Yeungling. When I'm up north, I drink LaBatts and Bell's

Posted by: K-Bob at December 11, 2012 05:50 AM (rqdgP)

581 LaBatts, ROFLMAO!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 11, 2012 07:09 AM (lGsIm)

582 Up north, LaBatts is fresh, and tastes a lot better than beers cooked farther away.

Same thing with Molsen. Molsen tastes like crap south of New York. Up in Canada, it's pretty decent.

Same with Bud. Bud is bottled in Columbus, OH, which is closer to me than Miller or LaBatts, so it tastes a LOT better than either of those, down here.

Yuengling is also bottled closer to me down here, so it tastes a LOT better than Miller or Coors. Up north, Yuengling tastes like crap.

Geography matters.

Posted by: K-Bob at December 11, 2012 07:46 AM (rqdgP)

583 Anybody brew there own? That be freshy fresh!


Anybody reload ammo?

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 11, 2012 07:49 AM (lGsIm)






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