New Star Trek Movie Features Vengeance-Seeking Villain Who Returns After Period of Abandonment, But It's Not Necessarily Khan

He is Khan-like, though.

If I were making this a kids' series for the Disney Channel, I'd call it That's So Khan.

I might do companion shows called Deanna Explains It All and Where In The World Is Hiraku Sulu?

Ah: A commenter, I think, nails it:

I thought it was supposed to be Gary Mitchell.

I assume he means the Star Fleet officer who gets godlike powers while on an alien world and then a godlike ego to match it. I forget the title of the episode -- it was the second or third one. Where No Man Has Gone Before or something.

This would explain his wearing the Star Fleet uniform.

Hikaru: Geeks tell me it's not Hideki. I was pretty close, though.

Posted by: Ace at 08:32 PM



Comments

1 What Kahn be done about him?

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:35 PM (BAnPT)

2 Heh. The trailer makes no sense. Its Michael Bay on steroids.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 08:35 PM (t866N)

3 THIS IS SETI ALPHA FIVE!!!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 08:35 PM (0fxcV)

4 Definitely not Khan, and people still arguing that it is are fools easily led astray. Even if they wanted to do Khan, why would they do it like that? Replace a Spaniard playing an Indian with a Brit playing a... Brit?

Besides, why would Khan want vengeance when he hasn't been wronged yet? Took him decades of being marooned on a dead planet to get REALLY pissed at Kirk, no?

Not Khan. Somebody else.

Posted by: Looney at December 07, 2012 08:35 PM (Ys6PL)

5 He blows fireballs out his arse like William Wallace.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:36 PM (BAnPT)

6 Ya, I think it's set up to make people THINK it's Khan.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 08:36 PM (Tt6ky)

7 I thought it was supposed to be Gary Mitchell.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 08:37 PM (R+6Q+)

8 Hikaru. Not Hideki. Harrumph.

Posted by: TrekPedant at December 07, 2012 08:37 PM (6f2wv)

9 Haha, yeah, Star Wars is awesome. Greedo shot first!

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 08:38 PM (I2LwF)

10 Hideki Sulu?

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 08:38 PM (r2PLg)

11 I missed the prank call thread, but Ace, you da man, as they say, when it comes to psychological analysis and human behavior. This, and the witty commentary insane rantings of the Horde are why I just caint quit you.

(man, I really gotta stop sucking up to management)

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 07, 2012 08:38 PM (Ai+tZ)

12 This seems . . . racist.

Posted by: wte9 at December 07, 2012 08:38 PM (6Tcdo)

13 Oh, and by "I thought" I mean, that's what I read on some geek blog somewhere. I can't remember who the hell Gary Mitchell is. But the trek geeks seemed pretty sure.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 08:39 PM (R+6Q+)

14 Hideki is probably yet another Japanese porn term i don't know about.

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 08:39 PM (r2PLg)

15 I'm thinking it's Gary Mitchell.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 07, 2012 08:39 PM (lxc0s)

16 Where In The World Is Hideki Sulu?

He's not in his closet, I can tell you that.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 08:39 PM (Lxw+T)

17 Holmes seems ... different, since the plunge off Reichenbach Falls.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 07, 2012 08:40 PM (Th6CZ)

18 I Khan haz cheezburger!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 07, 2012 08:40 PM (Cnqmv)

19 Chris PIIIIIIIIIINE!

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 08:40 PM (Lxw+T)

20 KHAAAAN YOOOUUU DIG IT?!??

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 08:40 PM (GEICT)

21 No Khan Do!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 07, 2012 08:41 PM (Cnqmv)

22 He blows fireballs out his arse like William Wallace.


Oh my!

Posted by: Hideki Sulu at December 07, 2012 08:41 PM (Lxw+T)

23 If his ship is the USS Botany Bay, it's Khan.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 07, 2012 08:41 PM (Zd/NW)

24 It's mirror universe Gary Seven of 9.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2012 08:42 PM (lgELp)

25 From where do I know the blonde?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 07, 2012 08:42 PM (Th6CZ)

26
Abandoned and then returns for destructive vengeance?

Obama?

Don't tell me somebody else didn't think of that.

Sure, it's all political now. All the time.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 08:42 PM (Md8Uo)

27 This is why it's useless to build anything or advance. Mean bastards come from outer space or Saudi Arabia and blow it all up.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:43 PM (BAnPT)

28
Beware the Genesis Lens Flare Device.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 08:43 PM (Rhie+)

29 If there is rich Corinthian leather involved, it is Khan.

Posted by: wooga at December 07, 2012 08:43 PM (Ep4mv)

30 Should have just done Khan then. You could have easily set that up to go directly into a third movie. After all didn't Khan almost succeed in taking over the enterprise originally. You've altered the timeline but not before Botany Bay was launched. Have another ship find them since its not Kirk that did Khan succeeds in taking it over and the enterprise gets tasked with bringing him in. Strand him and his group on a planet afterwards and you have it set up for his seeking revenge in the next movie.

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2012 08:43 PM (sWI/N)

31 Sherlock?

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:44 PM (doBIb)

32 If they can get Charlie Sheen to play him, I might shell out the $$.

Seriously, they've already screwed up ST enough, so why not go whole hog?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 07, 2012 08:44 PM (Y5I9o)

33 I wonder if the chick they show in the previews is the chick who Kirk nails and "gets got"?

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 07, 2012 08:44 PM (Zd/NW)

34 27 This is why it's useless to build anything or advance. Mean bastards come from outer space or Saudi Arabia Chicago and blow it all up.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:43 PM (BAnPT)



Fixed

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 08:44 PM (GEICT)

35 From where do I know the blonde?

The Bunny Ranch.

Posted by: minometer at December 07, 2012 08:44 PM (PwwAS)

36 What's the Maguffin in this one? Blue matter? What's the excuse to get a cameo from Nichelle Nichols or whoever,

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (I2LwF)

37 Fight Milk!
Fight Like a Crow!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (R+6Q+)

38 Revenge is a dish best served cold.~
Old Klingon Proverb

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (BAnPT)

39 yeah, seems more likely to be Gary Mitchell, if he's who I think he is.

But he must be marooned, a la Khan, to be so damn ANGRY at EARTH.

I forget why Mitchell went crazy but I don't remember him having a general destruction of earth vengeance thing. So this version must have been screwed over by Star Fleet. Like they sent him to the planet without warning him sufficiently. (Like... in every Aliens movie.)

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (LCRYB)

40 Well the trailer has a dark haired guy in what might be an alternate uniform. So it might be Mitchell. There is also the comely blond that might be Elizabeth Dehner. The flypast of the Testors F-19 Stealth Fighters and people fleeing what appears to be a terror attack does not bode well. Then got these cauldrons of fire that recall the Fatima visions of Hell. And finally what seems to be an entire star ship, perhaps Enterprise, crashing into the ocean.

There is not a single word of narration, you are just bombarded with images at breakneck speed. It makes me think of the Billy Joel music video Pressure when life is Channel 13. Or perhaps those chained in a cave to watch shadows on the wall.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (t866N)

41 Captain Sheen: "Fire the violent photon torpedoes of truth!"

(And you know he could fill Kirk's shoes with the womanizing)

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (Y5I9o)

42 And does Sulu get to whip out his sword again?

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 08:46 PM (I2LwF)

43 Whoever he is, he wants REVENGE.

Just like the last villain (Nero). And the one before that one (Shinzon). And the one before that one (Ru'afo).

Maybe we could, I dunno, have a villain who has another motivation?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 07, 2012 08:46 PM (uhAkr)

44 Potatoes are a dish best served freshly fried.~
Old Grandmomian Proverb

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:47 PM (BAnPT)

45 All I can say is there had better be some serious greasing of the Captain's log in the Captain's cabin or this will be one boring voyage. I've always said if I had to relive an alternate timeline, I would lay pipe like the Federation just discovered plumbing.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 08:47 PM (Lxw+T)

46 The flypast of the Testors F-19 Stealth Fighters

Heh.

The planes, boss, the planes!

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (Th6CZ)

47 Is this going back in time or something?

Looks like San Francisco.

Movie looks good to me--you guys gotta learn relativity--there's a lot a crap out there so...

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (r2PLg)

48 Second look at Harry Mudd?

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (I2LwF)

49 23 If his ship is the USS Botany Bay, it's Khan.
Posted by: MrCaniac at December 07, 2012 08:41 PM (Zd/NW)


The sleeper ship was the SS Botany Bay so not it wouldn't be :p

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (sWI/N)

50 KHANNNNNSSSSS...!!!

Posted by: liberal trolls, trying to stay topical at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (LCRYB)

51 There's a Japanese version of this trailer that has one final bit of dialogue from Benedict Cumberpatch. He says 'what would you do for family?' or something like that.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (doBIb)

52 Kirk: Khan. Khan, you've got Genesis. But you don't have me!
You were going to kill me, Khan. You're going to have to come down here.
You're going to have to come down here.
Khan: I'll do far worse than kill you. I've hurt you. And I
wish to go on... hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me, as you
left her. Marooned for all eternity, in the center of a dead planet...
buried alive. Buried alive.
Kirk: KHHHHAAAAAAAAN!





Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (0fxcV)

53 43 Whoever he is, he wants REVENGE.

Just like the last villain (Nero). And the one before that one (Shinzon). And the one before that one (Ru'afo).

Maybe we could, I dunno, have a villain who has another motivation?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 07, 2012 08:46 PM (uhAkr)




One BILLION dollars!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (GEICT)

54 Looks like San Francisco.

San Fran was always Starfleet HQ.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (doBIb)

55 So the new Enterprise is submersible?

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 08:49 PM (hO9ad)

56 The flyby is missing man formation, = Mitchell presumed lost?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2012 08:49 PM (lgELp)

57 I wonder if there will be more Orion slave chicks?

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:49 PM (doBIb)

58 Second look at Harry Mudd?

I'd rather take a second look at Yeoman Barrows.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 07, 2012 08:49 PM (Th6CZ)

59 53 43 Whoever he is, he wants REVENGE.
---
Tax the rich!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 07, 2012 08:50 PM (Y5I9o)

60 Hideki! Hideki, Hideki, Hideki!

Posted by: Chi at December 07, 2012 08:50 PM (+xKk0)

61 54 Looks like San Francisco.

San Fran was always Starfleet HQ.
Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (doBIb)

__________

Well is this suppose to be prequelish?

Sorry not a Star Trek expert.

Didn't know that ^.

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (r2PLg)

62 San Fran was always Starfleet HQ.

This explains a lot about Sulu.

Anyway, I think he has a staff office on Castro Street.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (Lxw+T)

63 >>>55 So the new Enterprise is submersible?

always would have been. Most of the same design features for space would make it submersible. I know, external pressure is a different consideration, but the ship is built to withstand very very high stresses. I'm sure it can manage a couple of hundred feet of water.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (LCRYB)

64
So the new Enterprise is submersible?


Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 08:49 PM

If it can fly through a star's corona water ain't poop. Unless it's San Francisco Bay and then it's at least 15% poop.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (BAnPT)

65 Fight Milk, the first alcoholic dairy-based protein drink!

For Bodyguards!
By Bodyguards!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (R+6Q+)

66 It's Hikaru Sulu.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (doBIb)

67 If she is blonde I know who she is. really good in the sack effin crazy in everything else though. Do not ever give her your real name or number.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (Z9EHQ)

68 Maybe we could, I dunno, have a villain who has another motivation?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 07, 2012 08:46 PM (uhAkr)


You dress your females? How decadent. You must be shown the true way.

Posted by: Daimon Matt at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (lxc0s)

69 Flatbush, a message to you in the psy thread at the bottom.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:51 PM (doBIb)

70 Geeks tell me it's not Hideki. I was pretty close, though.

________________

I'm pretty scared to google Hideki because it could be--


something.

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (r2PLg)

71 Vengeance seeking conservative abandoned by his political party, after a subversive take over of his republic

Posted by: Clemenza at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (ND1/g)

72 Was Troi at the helm again?

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (HiKk0)

73
Gary Mitchell (Gary Lockwood) had a high "esper" rating, and when they went into the energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy (magic dingus) it mutated him, and he started to develop super ESP type powers, greater brain activity, the wholenine years.

Sally Kellerman (aka the original Hot Lips Houlihan in the MASH movie) also had a high "esper" rating, just not as high as Gary's. She mutated slower, but still mutated.
At the end of the episode, the great power makes them egotistically insane, and before Gary can kill Kirk, Sally turns on him and they duel each other with their super psycho-kinetic powers. I thought they both ended up dead.

PS. In this new fangled culture, I hate the JJ Abrams re-boot because it makes Chris Pine's Kirk to be an arrogant and unlikeable blockhead. As much as you can pan Shatner's Kirk, it was an optimistic and hopeful vision of a future where technology was cool, but people still had those 20th century family values. Sort of.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (Md8Uo)

74 Unless it's San Francisco Bay and then it's at least 15% poop.

This is pollution caused by the local industry of poop mining.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (Lxw+T)

75
So this version must have been screwed over by Star Fleet. Like they sent him to the planet without warning him sufficiently. (Like... in every Aliens movie.)
Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 08:45 PM (LCRYB)









Like maybe they sent him on a diplomatic mission on a war-torn planet, and when the embassy comes under attack from terrorists and rebels, he begs Star Fleet for rescue, which they ignore.

Nah. No one would believe that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (Rhie+)

76 The Wrath of Khan really was a great film.

Shatner and Montalban really should have won something from the Academy.


I am not kidding!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 08:53 PM (0fxcV)

77 .

Posted by: butternut at December 07, 2012 08:53 PM (nbYoV)

78 I think he has a staff office on Castro Street.

ISWYDT.

Posted by: HeatherRadishô, Crankypants Extraordinaire at December 07, 2012 08:53 PM (hO8IJ)

79 Yeah, the Japanese trailer also has an iconic trek image -- think the whole semi-twist ending and lead-in to Search for Spock.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 08:53 PM (R+6Q+)

80 SS Valiant was lost. USS Enterprise detects its distress buoy. Beams it aboard. Enterprise crosses teh Great Barrier and barely makes it, warp drive is knocked out. Dr. Elizabeth Dehner and Lt. Cmdr Gary Mitchell are the only crew actually knocked unconscious. When Gary awakens his eyes have a silvery sheen. Later Dehner's eyes go through that transformation. Meanwhile Spock is digging through Valiant's records and they finally find the link. ESP. Kirk waffles he does want to kill his best friend so instead tries to maroon him on an automated factory. This causes more deaths and Kirk has to kill Mitchell. Kirk says one thing a god needs is compassion.

This episode was George Takei's first appearance in Star Trek. Though not as a helmsman, but as another scientist like Dehner.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (t866N)

81 It likely is Khan or it could be a combination of villains similar to how Iron Man did it. The guy is human and seems to be well super human given the jump he's pulling off in the trailer. Also since it's a rehash of TOS it doesn't have to be exactly the same Kahn or at least not the movie Kahn so he doesn't need to go after Kirk to be out for revenge given he was ruler of a large part of earth in the past before he fled earth

Posted by: Bill.S at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (xNWZU)

82 Speaking of movies, it appears that Sean Bean actually lives through this trailer - http://youtu.be/uM5FBW9pLg0 - so that's something new.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (Gk3SS)

83 Do Dr. Spock still have dem baby books in space ?

Posted by: babydaddy at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (HoQxe)

84 74 One Third the households in San Fran have an operational poop packing device.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (BAnPT)

85 @78 I bet he gets the staff on Castro street

Posted by: Clemenza at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (ND1/g)

86 It likely is Khan or it could be a combination of villains similar to
how Iron Man did it. The guy is human and seems to be well super human
given the jump he's pulling off in the trailer. Also since it's a rehash
of TOS it doesn't have to be exactly the same Kahn or at least not the
movie Kahn so he doesn't need to go after Kirk to be out for revenge
given he was ruler of a large part of earth in the past before he fled
earth


So they killed the best fucking Trek movie of all?

Fuck Abrams.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 08:55 PM (doBIb)

87 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 08:52 PM (Rhie+)


Brilliant.

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 08:56 PM (I2LwF)

88 "This, and the witty commentary insane rantings of the Horde are why I just caint (sic) quit you..."

Posted by: DC in Towson at December 07, 2012 08:38 PM (Ai+tZ)
-
My sentiments. Exactly. 'Sup DC. Hey BC '81.
Howdy --all ya'll. I caint quit neither.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at December 07, 2012 08:56 PM (mkb9H)

89 Fight Milk!
I drink it every morning so I can fight like a crow!
Fight Milk!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 08:57 PM (R+6Q+)

90 okey doke, fuck nut. call me out

Posted by: butternut at December 07, 2012 08:57 PM (nbYoV)

91
The Wrath of Khan really was a great film.

Shatner and Montalban really should have won something from the Academy.


I am not kidding!
Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 08:53 PM (0fxcV)








Love that flick. Although, the sets must have been made of Krispy Kreme donuts, given the amount of scenery-chewing from those two guys.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 08:58 PM (Rhie+)

92 okhana

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2012 08:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

93 EC, I think JJ Abrams might have a bigger ego than Mitchell. So of couse he could be dropping Mithcell hints when all he is doing si reaming Khan. Just to prove he is a superior director.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 08:59 PM (t866N)

94 butternut, you want to post about how we should be working now?

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 08:59 PM (LCRYB)

95 92 okhana

Outrageous!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 07, 2012 09:00 PM (uhAkr)

96 EC, do you play the online Star Trek game?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:00 PM (t866N)

97 What the hell is going on with--

butternut?

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 09:00 PM (r2PLg)

98 >>>Shatner and Montalban really should have won something from the Academy.

The both won a first class education and passage into space. Isn't that enough?

Posted by: The Star Fleet Academy Wants Respect at December 07, 2012 09:00 PM (LCRYB)

99 Is he mad at the Fight Milk! thing?

Not like I get what that's about either.

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 09:01 PM (r2PLg)

100 I think they are holding back on Khan cause they know that's what we all want.

So if the 2nd or 3rd one fail, they can pull out Khan and say, he's in the next one, and we'll all get excited again.

It's their ace in the hole.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:01 PM (R+6Q+)

101 I play Star Wars: The Old Republic.
It's very good. My Jedi just made his light saber and that was really cool.

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (I2LwF)

102 O Fortunaaaaaa!!!

Posted by: Hanoverfist at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (HiKk0)

103 Anna,

Not sure if you read my comment back in an earlier thread this week about the new Trek. I don't like the new one Abrams made. In fact, I think of the reboot as a quasi-sequel because Nimoy comes back as Spock Prime. So, in a way, it's technically not a reboot since we have a link to TOS universe. Abrams was stupid doing that. It should have been a clean break with a new origin story. Instead, he whores Nimoy out to bring the old fans back.

Also, the new "reboot" means that ST2 doesn't happen, and neither ST3 or ST4. With the destruction of Vulcan, the timeline for those movies is demolished in that universe. So, Abrams nullifies ST2 from taking place. That's a huge black mark against him in my book.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (doBIb)

104 Gary Lockwood did not have much good luck when it came to science fiction shows. Dr. Poole killed by rogue AI. Gary Mitchell killed by rogue ESP.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (t866N)

105 Gary Mitchell eh....Prolly right. But I thought Kirk killed him?

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (BAnPT)

106 You haven't lived until you've seen San Francisco's Gay Pride parade during Starfleet Week. If you drop your communicator you kick it all the way to Oakland before you pick it up.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (Lxw+T)

107
The sleeper ship was the SS Botany Bay so not it wouldn't be :p

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2012 08:48 PM (sWI/N)

Yep, the second I hit post, I knew it was wrong.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (Zd/NW)

108 Well, yes. You should be thinking. Are you thinking? I do not sense it. I see cats batting at moths.

Posted by: butternut at December 07, 2012 09:02 PM (nbYoV)

109 Not Gary Mitchell. Garth.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 09:03 PM (Tt6ky)

110
What? JJ Abrams want a hole in his ass?

Huh?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:03 PM (Md8Uo)

111 I'm confused. I'm just idiotically posting bits from It's Always Sunny. The Fight Milk thing is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. So I was just gonna repeat it until I drained all the humor from it.

Fight Milk!
Caw!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:03 PM (R+6Q+)

112 Assuming this is the Gary Mitchell/where no man has gone before episode, this sets up the movies, perhaps, as simply re-doing classic episodes.

Which I don't necessarily think would be a bad idea, so long as they are changed a bit and have some more added to them.

Gotta be better than anything new. Think about it. Think about when Hollywood does something new.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:03 PM (LCRYB)

113
EC, do you play the online Star Trek game?


No. I don't play MMORPG's. I do play FPS like Battlefield though.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:03 PM (doBIb)

114 Flatbush!

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:04 PM (doBIb)

115 >>>101 I play Star Wars: The Old Republic.
It's very good. My Jedi just made his light saber and that was really cool.

Sith Inquisitor you Jedi Scum.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 07, 2012 09:04 PM (HBRB0)

116 So I was just gonna repeat it until I drained all the humor from it.


It is the Moron Way.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:04 PM (Gk3SS)

117
I assume he means the Star Fleet officer who gets godlike powers while on an alien world and then a godlike ego to match it.[i/]


Foreshadowing Earth ca. 2008?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 07, 2012 09:05 PM (+v9b3)

118 Fight Milk!
Watch your profits soar high as a crow!
Fight Milk!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOxpXZxgpCo

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:05 PM (R+6Q+)

119 always would have been. Most of the same design features for space
would make it submersible. I know, external pressure is a different
consideration, but the ship is built to withstand very very high
stresses. I'm sure it can manage a couple of hundred feet of water.


Most of that is accomplished by energy fields, I think. Which would be easier to maintain in a vacuum than submerged.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 09:05 PM (hO9ad)

120 flatbush--

I told you, stay out of my peripherals.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:05 PM (LCRYB)

121
So I was just gonna repeat it until I drained all the humor from it.


It is the Moron Way.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:04 PM (Gk3SS)








Werd.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (Rhie+)

122 97 I am a general asshole. Sorry

Posted by: butternut at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (nbYoV)

123 What?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (R+6Q+)

124 "I'm sure it can manage a couple of hundred feet of water."

All the seals and sills would be on the wrong side to with stand pressure.

They COULD be made to operate under both and if the Enterprise was a planet landing Starship, it probably would.

I know you caveated that but I wanted to point out that external pressure dictates some fundamental design implementation that are very much reverse of internal pressure.

Let alone the PSI considerations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (3E2th)

125 So Nurse Chapel and Kirk were siblings separated at birth to hide them from their dangerous father?

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (I2LwF)

126 Just follow my lead, and I swear. I will get you off. In ways you've never even imagined.

Posted by: Dennis Reynolds at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (LCRYB)

127 Think about when Hollywood does something new.

*thinks*

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (doBIb)

128
The Moron Way.

It's like the Cowboy Way, except no horses or saddles or cows.

Just guns, booze and occasionally running around naked.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (Md8Uo)

129 Flatbush, I left a comment for you at the end of the Psy thread.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:07 PM (doBIb)

130
Whoopsies

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 07, 2012 09:07 PM (+v9b3)

131 "So. Any ideas, guys?"

[two year pause]

"OK fuck it we'll just remake Nemesis again."

"I think this time we should make it look like Battleship? You know? Make the blue stuff, like, sad blue? Like in a sad movie? Because it's sad how things are? In the movie? And then when the water is like BLOOOJ it's not like...Captain America? Because it's, like, a global world now?"

"...What? Were you... Yeah. Do...those things. The things you said."

Posted by: oblig. at December 07, 2012 09:07 PM (cePv8)

132 111 I'm confused. I'm just idiotically posting bits from It's Always Sunny. The Fight Milk thing is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. So I was just gonna repeat it until I drained all the humor from it.

Fight Milk!
Caw!
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:03 PM (R+6Q+)

_____________


Ha! Okay.

I thought --

Butter "nut" was taking special offense.


I guess I was wrong--he wants Ace to think deeply.

Yet he calls himself--

"butternut".

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 09:07 PM (r2PLg)

133 I'm telling you, if Abrams reboots "Spock's Brain" I'm going to rape his sausage hole with a phaser rifle.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 09:07 PM (Lxw+T)

134 The Moron Way.

It's like the Cowboy Way, except no horses or saddles or cows.

Just guns, booze and occasionally running around naked.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (Md8Uo)






Occasionally?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 09:08 PM (Rhie+)

135 98
>>>Shatner and Montalban really should have won something from the Academy.



The both won a first class education and passage into space. Isn't that enough?


Posted by: The Star Fleet Academy Wants Respect at December 07, 2012 09:00 PM (LCRYB)

Son, those two boys were some of the finest young men I ever coached. Both would have made hell of great pro players, but they answered their Federation's calling. Good young men, but boy did those two play grabass all day long. Hell, those boys had more sword fights in the locker room than that Sulu kid.
And we got that respect when we joined the SEC.

Posted by: Lou Holtz XI, Head Coach Starfleet Academy at December 07, 2012 09:08 PM (Zd/NW)

136 Do Sith get to schpoink girls? Because Jedi have to be virgins. I'd totally join the dork side if if could schtupp the fuck out of some hot Outer Rim poon.

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:09 PM (I2LwF)

137 The Moron Way.



It's like the Cowboy Way, except no horses or saddles or cows.



Just guns, booze and occasionally running around naked.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (Md8Uo)





Occasionally?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 09:08 PM (Rhie+)



Running?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:09 PM (Gk3SS)

138 Reason why I ask about the Trek online was because I know someone who does play. Loves the thing. Loves talking about new weapons to attack the Borg. I mention First Federation, Melkotians, or Organians to them, its like I am speaking gibberish. Has no idea. And those are the ones who will flock to this movie. It sounds cool and is flashy, but its not what it purports to be.

As for what you said about Spock Prime. That makes sense. It is a cop-out. Red matter and Nero. And it could have lead to new things after the destruction of Vulcan- Spoke Prime knows of Genesis and his DNA is riddled with the after-effects.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:10 PM (t866N)

139 Could you not at least provide a 1500 word review about this preview if you're not going to fight the good fight?

And provide me the local number for Dominos take-out.

Posted by: I Am Mad As Hell at December 07, 2012 09:10 PM (9SwFX)

140 Why would you re-do or re-imagine the Wrath of Khan?


It doesn't need redone!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 09:10 PM (0fxcV)

141
Hot Outer Rim poon?

That sounds vaguely like a line from a pornographic movie.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:10 PM (Md8Uo)

142 The Weirding Way: martial arts that emphasizes speed and mental agility to defeat your attackers.


The Moron Way: draining all humor from funny skits by repeated posts.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:10 PM (doBIb)

143 HiKaRu Sulu.

With the K *before* the R.

Hikaru.

I've never heard of anyone called Hiraku.

Anyway...

Totally Gary Mitchell.

And thank the LAWD not a lens flare in sight!

That's what I freakin' hate about JJ Abrams' directing style. He thinks littering the screen with those amateurish lens flares makes a picture look cool. Sorry, guy, it's annoying clutter that gets in the way of the images on screen. Fucking gangster rappers and inbred country music stars might dig that shit in their music videos but they also enjoy snorting cocaine and getting busted on illegal weapons charges or fucking their cousins so fuck them.

Other observations:

Enterprise can't operate within an atmosphere. I realize it's an alt-continuity but...no, sorry, it's designed for outer space. Nothing about it allows for flying in an atmosphere.

I guess Spock dies again judging from the end of the trailer with the hands pressed against the glass. Ya know, maybe it *is* Khan.

Posted by: Robert at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (LUnTP)

144 In case no one else said it, "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was the second pilot for the series. The first one, "The Cage," was too cerebral for the network, but for some reason the coughed up the money for another one.

Gary Mitchell ended up squashed pretty good. I cannot see him coming back, but if so, cool.

Posted by: cranky-d at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (HDtn6)

145 121


So I was just gonna repeat it until I drained all the humor from it.





It is the Moron Way.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:04 PM (Gk3SS)





Werd.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (Rhie+)

Does that milk go with peanut butter?

Posted by: Toby the Beagle at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (Zd/NW)

146 Garth is a highly decorated former Starfleet officer who went insane. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whom_Gods_Destroy_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (Tt6ky)

147 >>>I know you caveated that but I wanted to point out that external pressure dictates some fundamental design implementation that are very much reverse of internal pressure.

the ship is frequently depicted as grotesquely elongating as it goes into warp. If we assume it's really doing that, it's got to be built pretty tough. plus all the shear forces (?--is that what I mean?) when it's traveling at warp nine but gets batted sharply to the right.

What I'm saying is the thing is built so strong, with technology beyond us, that it does a lot of things it's not even designed to do.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (LCRYB)

148 82 Speaking of movies, it appears that Sean Bean actually lives through this trailer - http://youtu.be/uM5FBW9pLg0 - so that's something new.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 08:54 PM (Gk3SS)




Since when the hell is that allowed?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:12 PM (GEICT)

149 The Moron Way. It's like the Cowboy Way, except no horses or saddles or cows. Just guns, booze and occasionally running around naked.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:06 PM (Md8Uo)
-
I like it. But with more cowbell...

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at December 07, 2012 09:12 PM (mkb9H)

150 My main complaint about the last several Star Trek movies, it is that they don't "Boldly go" anywhere anymore. They are always rushing back to save Earth... I'm hoping they don't save Earth this time, so they are forced to create new plots for the characters.

Posted by: publius75 at December 07, 2012 09:12 PM (4TA6G)

151 Where In The World Is Hideki Sulu?



He's not in his closet, I can tell you that.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at December 07, 2012 08:39 PM (Lxw+T)


Let me know if you find him.Haven't seen him since I called him dad.Oh, my.

Posted by: Ensign Demora Sulu at December 07, 2012 09:13 PM (mETGQ)

152 118 Fight Milk!
Watch your profits soar high as a crow!
Fight Milk!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOxpXZxgpCo
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:05 PM (R+6Q+)

______________

LOL! Jeez never heard of that show.

I'll have to check it out.

Posted by: tasker at December 07, 2012 09:13 PM (r2PLg)

153 Since when the hell is that allowed?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:12 PM (GEICT)




I know! He lives like nearly 3 minutes! That's got to be a record.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:13 PM (Gk3SS)

154 >>>Gary Mitchell ended up squashed pretty good. I cannot see him coming back, but if so, cool.

the new star trek is set in an explicitly, in-universe rebooted timeline. Gary Mitchell was not already squashed and does not need "to come back." He has not been encountered yet.

In this universe Kirk seems to take over command of the enterprise at an earlier age than in the previous timeline.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:13 PM (LCRYB)

155 132 gee gosh. Ouch.

Oh hey, off to find a 13 yr old cambodian bride.

Aint you'ense jealous?

Great student of history, eh?

Off now. Good luck Ace.

Posted by: butternut at December 07, 2012 09:13 PM (nbYoV)

156 >>>the ship is frequently depicted as grotesquely elongating as it goes into warp. If we assume it's really doing that,

Of course it's not really doing that. It is space that is elongating not the ship.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 07, 2012 09:14 PM (89r5W)

157 Also, the new "reboot" means that ST2 doesn't happen, and neither ST3 or
ST4. With the destruction of Vulcan, the timeline for those movies is
demolished in that universe. So, Abrams nullifies ST2 from taking place.
That's a huge black mark against him in my book.


Not exactly. They just made another parallel universe (like the Mirror). ST 2-4 probably wouldn't happen anyway because old Spock would warn them (and he isn't going to get sent back in time from this universe because new Spock already knows the events that lead to that).

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 09:14 PM (hO9ad)

158 I thought you were done for the night, Ace. And then this.

Posted by: L is starting to think there will be no SMOD and looking for alternatives to LIB at December 07, 2012 09:15 PM (0PiQ4)

159 153 I know! He lives like nearly 3 minutes! That's got to be a record.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:13 PM (Gk3SS)



And short hair?!? I'm confused and frightened....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:15 PM (GEICT)

160 In this universe Kirk seems to take over command of the enterprise at an earlier age than in the previous timeline.

Pike is crippled by Nero at the end of the first reboot movie, but Spock was actually a higher ranked officer than Kirk was. Spock flakes out and relieves himself, so Kirk is automatically the next in command.

It's completely anti to what we know of James T Kirk from TOS universe.

This Abrams reboot sucks.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:16 PM (doBIb)

161 I watched the reboot movie. I didn't think too hard about it. I especially liked Scotty and Bones.

It was entertaining.

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:16 PM (I2LwF)

162 In the original timeline, NCC-1701 was assembled in orbit above San Francisco Naval Yard. First skipper was Robert April. Source: Counterclock Incident.

In JJ Abrams universe, Enterprise was built whole inside Earth's gravity well. Young bratty Kirk sees this, its part of the trailer. So in Abrams version anything can possibly go. Just not a shred of originality anywhere.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:16 PM (t866N)

163 >>>Of course it's not really doing that. It is space that is elongating not the ship.

yeah but the ship is actually elongating due to spacetime effects. And yet doesn't tear apart.

I mean it's not just an optical illusion --it's actually doing that, due to wibbly-wobbly lightspeed stuff.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:16 PM (LCRYB)

164 Also: Poor Chekov LOL

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:16 PM (I2LwF)

165 >>>Do Sith get to schpoink girls?

Peace is a lie there is only passion.

Hell yes the Sith get to get down.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 07, 2012 09:17 PM (89r5W)

166 Not exactly. They just made another parallel universe (like the Mirror).
ST 2-4 probably wouldn't happen anyway because old Spock would warn
them (and he isn't going to get sent back in time from this universe
because new Spock already knows the events that lead to that).


Which is the reason why I hate Abrams and his new movie: ST2 doesn't happen.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:17 PM (doBIb)

167 And short hair?!? I'm confused and frightened....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:15 PM (GEICT)



Just stare at the bikini chicks with machine guns and all will be well.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:17 PM (Gk3SS)

168 101 I play Star Wars: The Old Republic.

It's very good. My Jedi just made his light saber and that was really cool.


So I found out visiting the Twilek priestess that you need to complete bonus quests before the actual quest you were attempting or they go away. Good to know early.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 09:18 PM (hO9ad)

169 167 Just stare at the bikini chicks with machine guns and all will be well.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:17 PM (Gk3SS)




They have machine guns???


*sprints to google*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:18 PM (GEICT)

170 I liked the reboot, but I suppose this movie is the one that will prove if it's got legs or not.

I liked the reboot because I found it far more hopeful than the rest. Perhaps that's a paradox because I found it hopeful because the bad sh*t that happened didn't get FIXED. In this reality Kirk had a crappy home-life. He's a jerk in a lot of ways but in others is as idealistic as the old Kirk. But in the end, his father was still dead, his childhood still sucked, and he was pretty much still an egotistical cynic. No re-set button at the end of the movie.

I loved Spock. He's less... complete than the old Spock. His passions less controlled. And he's a bit of an egotist, too. But that's not as important as the fact that Vulcan is destroyed. And in the reboot there is no re-set button and Vulcan stays destroyed.

And that was hopeful. It was hopeful because Kirk and Spock will persevere. Their realities will not be fixed for them, so that the hardship never happened, an abusive childhood won't be replaced with an idyllic one, and Vulcan will not reappear as though nothing happened, but they're going to persevere. Because they have the will to do so, and the ability to do so. They will continue into the future and they will *win*. It's very forward looking.

It's a better message, in my opinion, because no one gets a re-set button on a bad life or on mistakes or on misfortune, and the idea of overcoming and persevering, is more positive than needing to have past wrongs removed from your time-line.

Posted by: Synova at December 07, 2012 09:19 PM (7/PU+)

171 @161

I too liked the reboot but I have to keep my self in control and not just yell

STOP MESSING WITH MY YOUTH AND MAKE SOME DAMNED NEW STORIES!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 09:19 PM (0fxcV)

172 Objects contract along the direction of motion as v approaches c. By we're talking superluminal speeds so relativity doesn't say much about an object's shape versus velocity.

More likely space ahead of the enterprise is contracting and space around the enterprise is expanding to fill that gap. or light traveling through that warped space refracts in such a way that the enterprise seems longer.

Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:20 PM (I2LwF)

173 Ace,

<< I forget the title of the episode>>

It's "Where No Man Has Gone Before"

"Whom Gods Destroy" is the episode about a former Starfleet captain who goes insane...not Gary Mitchell.

Posted by: Sgt. York at December 07, 2012 09:21 PM (WHcjL)

174 Oddly enough, Ace got the episode right, but not the villain. Garth is the right villain., and he is from Whom Gods Destroy.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 09:22 PM (Tt6ky)

175 Well, now he's done edited it away.

Ace, you were (half-)right the first time!

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 09:22 PM (Tt6ky)

176 They have machine guns???





*sprints to google*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:18 PM (GEICT)




Kids these days. Not knowing the classics.

Bikini Girls With Machine Guns.

http://youtu.be/30sXNkxejUM



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:23 PM (Gk3SS)

177 In the reboot, how much time did Kirk actually spend at the Academy?

In movie time it was, what, 10-15 minutes from drunken townie to captain of a ship?

I didn't pay that much attention, I remember thinking it seemed like maybe he was there for half a semester. Were we supposed to believe he'd completed a long, presumably multi-year, course?

The TV shows always implied it was like going to college. If not much longer.

I always assumed it was like going to the Naval Academy. So 4 years minimum. But there seemed to be a kids prep school as well, right? And presumably grad school programs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:23 PM (R+6Q+)

178 no I think it's mitchell from Where No Man Has Gone Before.

I do not think it's Whom Gods Destroy.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:24 PM (LCRYB)

179 Not Gary Mitchell. Garth.
Lord Garth!!!111!!!

Posted by: Lord Garth!!!111!! at December 07, 2012 09:25 PM (jPVBi)

180 Isn't the elongation of the ship during warp a representation of what it would look to someone in regular space?

I can't imagine a space ship being able to withstand being stretched a few thousand feet and then just snap back.

I can picture that entering warp drive might stretch a onlookers view of the ship as it took off. (although, would they actually be able to see it since the light would be going too slow?

anyway. yes the Enterprise is strong and stuff but a pressure seal set from the wrong direction will most likely leak at the slightest bit of pressure or vacuum. Even if it was really really heavy and thick.

As I'm sure you know, pressure seals and vacuum seals are designed using the mechanical pressure from the highest pressure side to aid in sealing. To make them work from both sides would entail some radical redesign that isn't present in any of the various Star Ships shown. And it would be instantly obvious. (such as circular doors that recess into a pocket or Iris like doors.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:25 PM (3E2th)

181
The elongation effect they dreamed up when the ship accelerates to beyond lightspeed in warp drive from normal space is something they conjured by looking at the reverse of the classic Lorentz contraction.

In real space, as an object approaches a significant fraction of c (light speed), the object shortens (there is a formula for this written by Lorentz, a famous classical physicist, prior to Einstein).
Actually, what really happens is the object precesses, as was told to me by a pretty smart physicist (well, he told the whole class, not just me).

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is Eddie Willers, sure at December 07, 2012 09:25 PM (Md8Uo)

182 102 Dude, ewe got something wrong with the old pyloric valve?

Posted by: Buddha the Magnificent at December 07, 2012 09:25 PM (8NlUk)

183 Just think in Abrams version 'Journey to Babel' can't happen. Amanda is dead.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:25 PM (t866N)

184
If he has god like powers why be pissed, just create a few hot vicki secret models in maid uniforms, with a big screen, a bucket of bru's room hotwingsand your good to go. Being god-like is supposed to be awesome fun, what's with the revenge nonsense.

Khan's wife died and that was the real reason he was pissed. Oh yeah and he was an aggressive asshole! That is why it was believable.

Posted by: Africanus at December 07, 2012 09:26 PM (fbOLK)

185 Gary Mitchell wouldn't need to fight hand to hand. Nor would he need a big gun.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 09:26 PM (Tt6ky)

186 And he has silver eyes.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 09:26 PM (Tt6ky)

187 Isn't the elongation of the ship during warp a representation of what it would look to someone in regular space?
It depends whether you're behind the ship or in front of it!

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:26 PM (jPVBi)

188 A big gun never hurt anyone!

Much.

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:27 PM (jPVBi)

189 In the reboot, how much time did Kirk actually spend at the Academy?



In movie time it was, what, 10-15 minutes from drunken townie to captain of a ship?



He completely glosses over the Kobayashi Maru scenario like it's joke. In ST2, you get the impression that Kirk actually put an effort into making it through the simulation with a modicum of effort, even though he cheats. The new Kirk douches his way through it.

*facepalm*

And did you read my comment?

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:27 PM (doBIb)

190 Bitter Clinger,

I think what I'm trying to say is sometime shit gets weird, and who ya gonna call?

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:27 PM (LCRYB)

191 In the reboot, how much time did Kirk actually spend at the Academy?

They mention it should be hour years and he says he'll do it in three. I thought there was a caption indicating three years had passed in the following scene.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 09:27 PM (hO9ad)

192 Force fields. It's always comes down to force fields.

If we could only invent one, we'd be able to do all that cool shit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:27 PM (3E2th)

193 172 Objects contract along the direction of motion as v approaches c. By we're talking superluminal speeds so relativity doesn't say much about an object's shape versus velocity.

More likely space ahead of the enterprise is contracting and space around the enterprise is expanding to fill that gap. or light traveling through that warped space refracts in such a way that the enterprise seems longer.
Posted by: Truman North at December 07, 2012 09:20 PM (I2LwF)






So what you're saying is that the warp drive is a giant nukular Dust Buster?

Sorry, I only speak Moron.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2012 09:28 PM (Rhie+)

194 That chick on Deep Space 9 was hot.

Posted by: slatz at December 07, 2012 09:28 PM (fAVBA)

195 Tanned, ready and rested.

Posted by: General Trulane Retired at December 07, 2012 09:28 PM (Z5BDI)

196
Other observations:



Enterprise can't operate within an atmosphere. I realize it's an
alt-continuity but...no, sorry, it's designed for outer space. Nothing
about it allows for flying in an atmosphere.



I guess Spock dies again judging from the end of the trailer with
the hands pressed against the glass. Ya know, maybe it *is* Khan.

Posted by: Robert at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (LUnTP)

SIF fields are miraculous things. Also, it wouldn't be the first time Enterprise entered Earth's atmosphere. o.o~ And Anna Puma I know EXACTLY what you mean about STO kids. I like STO and play occasionally, but so many of the players don't have the first clue about the good ol' Trek days.

I think my favorite thing about STO (aside from flying around in a Sovereign-class starship) was the Reman episodes, where they had the ol' Kirk's-gonna-kick-some-ass music in the Romulan dueling arena. Freakin' classic, loved it.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 09:28 PM (Lvgz1)

197 Just think in Abrams version 'Journey to Babel' can't happen. Amanda is dead.
But there are still silver midgets in Shriners' hats, aren't there?

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:28 PM (jPVBi)

198 Isn't the elongation of the ship during warp a representation of what it would look to someone in regular space?
It depends whether you're behind the ship or in front of it!
Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:26 PM (jPVBi)

this is why a quickie is so important - makes everything longer

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2012 09:29 PM (Z9EHQ)

199 Isn't the elongation of the ship during warp a representation of what it would look to someone in regular space?

And what happens when the Enterprise turns on its headlights during Warp?

Posted by: Steven Wright at December 07, 2012 09:29 PM (jz/Gm)

200 This.

'...starting to think there will be no SMOD and looking for alternatives to LIB...

L is starting to think there will be no SMOD and looking for alternatives to LIB at December 07, 2012 09:15 PM (0PiQ4)

- And, so, having little to add to the Sci-Fi thread, I'll see ya'll on the ONT. Where I'm going to talk about the new dog. IKYWTK.

Posted by: Capt. Backfire at December 07, 2012 09:29 PM (mkb9H)

201 176 Kids these days. Not knowing the classics.

Bikini Girls With Machine Guns.

http://youtu.be/30sXNkxejUM



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:23 PM (Gk3SS)



You're welcome.


http://tinyurl.com/byze5ue


NSFW

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:29 PM (GEICT)

202 It's Charlie X.

Posted by: Evan at December 07, 2012 09:29 PM (OBvH2)

203 Looks cool. But the one I'd like to see updated is the Kirock one, with the blazing hawt Indian babe...

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 07, 2012 09:31 PM (MmH0Z)

204 That chick on Deep Space 9 was hot.
Especially the lesbian or bi version on the alternate timeline thread where O'Brien, IIRC among others, was a slave.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 07, 2012 09:31 PM (jPVBi)

205 Abandoned and then returns for destructive vengeance?
Obama?
Don't tell me somebody else didn't think of that.


Ambassador Stevens would be another.

Posted by: t-bird at December 07, 2012 09:31 PM (FcR7P)

206 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:29 PM (GEICT)


I approve.


You may have a cookie.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 07, 2012 09:31 PM (Gk3SS)

207 bitter clinger,

What I meant was as I do not know what kind of technology the ship is built with (nor the economy of technology-- it might be trivially cheap to add this or that to turn a starship into a submersible), it's a hand-wave to me. I do not know enough to object.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (LCRYB)

208 Stopping laughing at me!!!

Posted by: Kilgore X at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (jPVBi)

209 Kinley Ardal, I kinda stopped talking my friend. Faserius vs Borg cube. Or a few ticked off Organians. Roddenberry relaunched the franchise and then forgot it seems everything that they had cobbled together previously unless they had to wave the hands to have it make sense.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (t866N)

210 And what happens when the Enterprise turns on its headlights during Warp?Posted by: Steven Wright

She becomes part of Rule 5 Sundays of course.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (08zV/)

211 Capt Backfire

Still here? What kind of dog? I've been thinking about getting one.

Posted by: L is starting to think there will be no SMOD and looking for alternatives to LIB at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (0PiQ4)

212
You may have a cookie.



I like a cookie.


*hopeful face*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (GEICT)

213 the ship is frequently depicted as grotesquely elongating as it goes into warp. If we assume it's really doing that, it's got to be built pretty tough.
Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:11 PM (LCRYB)

Or, it's the change in perspective as space-time is... warped

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 09:33 PM (vGtOG)

214 the ship is frequently depicted as grotesquely elongating as it goes into warp.

The ship itself doesn't elongate, your perception of it does. If it did, everyone on board would immediately die when they went into warp.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2012 09:33 PM (OevbG)

215 Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:28 PM (jPVBi)

Ensign, how many times do I have to tell you. Do not present the Tellerite ambassador with an apple in his mouth ever again. Or you will be put on an Away Team.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:34 PM (t866N)

216 Capt. Backfire, thanks for the nice hello in the last thread!

Posted by: Cheri at December 07, 2012 09:34 PM (EAgmr)

217 That chick on Deep Space 9 was hot.

Kai Wynn?

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 09:34 PM (hO9ad)

218 On second thought the franchise has so many hot babes I can't decide which ones I'd most like to see updated. Plus the pron versions. In my head.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 07, 2012 09:36 PM (MmH0Z)

219 177
In the reboot, how much time did Kirk actually spend at the Academy?



In movie time it was, what, 10-15 minutes from drunken townie to captain of a ship?



I didn't pay that much attention, I remember thinking it seemed like
maybe he was there for half a semester. Were we supposed to believe
he'd completed a long, presumably multi-year, course?



The TV shows always implied it was like going to college. If not much longer.



I always assumed it was like going to the Naval Academy. So 4 years
minimum. But there seemed to be a kids prep school as well, right? And
presumably grad school programs.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at December 07, 2012 09:23 PM (R+6Q+)

Son, when he passed the Kobayashi Mauru, he graduated even though he still had several years of eligibility left. I could have really used him in the KY Bowl.

Posted by: Lou Holtz XI, Head Coach Starfleet Academy at December 07, 2012 09:36 PM (Zd/NW)

220 Shatner and Montalban really should have won something from the Academy.

SciFi is considered 2nd class geek/knuckle dragger shit unless its got blue aliens and bashes the military...then its deep stuff and praiseworthy.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 07, 2012 09:37 PM (xaPEC)

221 Those neocons at the United Federation of Planets could not keep out of other people's business and respecting cultural differences. Now we have all sorts of villains trying to blow San Francisco.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 07, 2012 09:37 PM (NzBQO)

222 the ship is frequently depicted as grotesquely elongating as it goes into warp. If we assume it's really doing that, it's got to be built pretty tough.Posted by: ace

Are you doing that Gutfeld thing, trolling your own commenters?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 09:37 PM (08zV/)

223 >>>about it allows for flying in an atmosphere.

It is designed to operate in nebulas so no it does have "atmosphere" design considerations

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at December 07, 2012 09:37 PM (ymWVT)

224 Kai Wynn, a face that looks like it launched a thousand battlecruisers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:38 PM (t866N)

225 Ooohh, I feel so young and serious talking all geeky about how the Enterprise could stay dry underwater and the elongation thingy.

Now THAT'S suspension of disbelief. When you can seriously discuss how some plastic model that never left the design studio can withstand the forces arrayed against it in outer space.

Now if we could only light a joint or two and call out for pizza, the illusion would be complete.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:38 PM (3E2th)

226 Or you will be put on an Away Team.
Yes, ma'am.

...Bitch. Meow.

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:38 PM (jPVBi)

227 Now we have all sorts of villains trying to blow San Francisco.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand


Oooh Myyyy!

Posted by: George Takei at December 07, 2012 09:39 PM (08zV/)

228 Ensign, your Agonizer. Now.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:39 PM (t866N)

229 Now we have all sorts of villains trying to blow San Francisco.

Only during the Folsom Street Fair.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2012 09:40 PM (OevbG)

230 209
Kinley Ardal, I kinda stopped talking my friend. Faserius vs Borg cube.
Or a few ticked off Organians. Roddenberry relaunched the franchise and
then forgot it seems everything that they had cobbled together
previously unless they had to wave the hands to have it make sense.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:32 PM (t866N)


That's one of the reasons I stuck to the book series for so long. There was a Q trilogy, set after the launch of the E, that dealt with Q's origins, and in the process, touched on the origins of several metaphysical entities from TOS. I like it when Trek authors remember TOS and don't forget to tie their new stuff into the old Trek mythos.

Then they started writing about gay Klingons and I stopped reading the book series, 'cause I don't care who you are, nobody wants to read about gay Klingons dudes. Nobody. >_> (This was in the Enterprise novel series.)

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 09:40 PM (Lvgz1)

231 http://___23.imageshack.us/___23/2505/trekspoiler.png

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:40 PM (DC1tz)

232 215 Ensign, how many times do I have to tell you. Do not present the Tellerite ambassador with an apple in his mouth ever again. Or you will be put on an Away Team.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:34 PM (t866N)




Not the red uniform! Please, anything but that!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:40 PM (GEICT)

233 (remove the _ characters)

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:41 PM (DC1tz)

234 Ensign, your Agonizer. Now.
I knew you couldn't stay mad at me!
BTW, love the goatee!

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:41 PM (jPVBi)

235 If counselor Troi stands facing forward while the Enterprise is warping along and she gets "chilly" (IYKWIM)

Does that mean her nipples have gone where no nipples have gone before? What will be their warp speed? Is there a limit?

These topics need addressing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:41 PM (3E2th)

236 As long as we're being geeky, I always thought it was weird in STNG that the female officers were referred to as 'sir' whereas even now, 'm'am' is used. You would think in the enlightened future that 'sir' would be the last term used.

Discuss.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 07, 2012 09:41 PM (MmH0Z)

237 Kinley Ardal, uuhhmmm.

Worf, "So Alexander where did your cousin Korath take you today?"

Alexander, "Well he took me a recreation of Earth, a place called Castro Street."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:42 PM (t866N)

238 I thought gay Klingons were the ones that prefer sex to fighting?

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:42 PM (jPVBi)

239 Kai Wynn, a face that looks like it launched a thousand battlecruisers.

They were running away after their captains met her in a bar. Quark told me.

Posted by: Garrick at December 07, 2012 09:43 PM (hO9ad)

240
236
As long as we're being geeky, I always thought it was weird in STNG that
the female officers were referred to as 'sir' whereas even now, 'm'am'
is used. You would think in the enlightened future that 'sir' would be
the last term used.

Discuss.


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 07, 2012 09:41 PM (MmH0Z)

Didn't Janeway yell at Paris about that in Voyager, and so he started saying "Aye, Captain" instead of anything else?

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 09:43 PM (Lvgz1)

241 The only way I see warp ever working is as a space/time displacement of sorts where some yet to be devised mechanism displaces conventional space time around the ship allowing it to squirt/ooze around like a squeezed water balloon.

Once the displacement area is opened/created, the ship should effectively vanish because it no longer exists in a space where normal space photons are flying around.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 07, 2012 09:44 PM (xaPEC)

242 Troi and Doctor Crusher exercise.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXZZeHkL29c

Posted by: andycanuck at December 07, 2012 09:45 PM (jPVBi)

243 However warp drive comes to be, I know it will take a butt load of energy to effect.

That's the real technological problem.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:46 PM (3E2th)

244 You would think in the enlightened future that 'sir' would be the last term used.

Discuss.


That's how the patriarchy first started keeping me puffy and down!

Posted by: Ensign Lefler at December 07, 2012 09:46 PM (jz/Gm)

245 As long as we're being geeky, I always thought it was weird in STNG that the female officers were referred to as 'sir' whereas even now, 'm'am' is used. You would think in the enlightened future that 'sir' would be the last term used.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid


It made sense to me. Militaries tend to want things as regular as can be. Uniform, if you will.

Sir is from the Latin 'senior,' as crazy as that sounds. So an officer is usually a 'senior in rank,' no?

Posted by: George Takei at December 07, 2012 09:47 PM (08zV/)

246 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:42 PM (t866N)

And now I must sit and imagine Worf's expression. I'm thinking something like a thundercloud... in space... an ion storm. With a battle going on, lots of phaser fire.

Also, while we're discussing Trek stuff, while I love DS9 dearly, all throughout the series, nobody seemed to have any functional shields. I remember the first encounter with the Jem'hadar that blew up Oddysey, but I was pretty sure Starfleet reverse-engineered the Jem'hadar polaron beams midway through the war, and learned how to adjust their shields to 'em.

And yet nobody in the damn fleet ever had functional shielding, nor the Klingons, nor the Romulans, or the Jem'hadar, for that matter. Your ship got hit with a torpedo or phaser, and wasn't named Defiant, you were S-O-L. The hell!

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 09:47 PM (Lvgz1)

247 I've never watched a Star Trek episode or movie until about a year ago I saw the new Star Trek remake on TNT. I really liked it and plan on seeing this one too.

I think it was an entertaining movie and you didn't have to be a Trekie to enjoy it. So to Trekies that are made about the remake, keep in mind that the goal was to appeal to a broader audience. They succeeded if someone like me enjoyed it.

Posted by: Ben at December 07, 2012 09:48 PM (xTHBC)

248 236

The use of "sir" for female officers isn't new but I couldn't say where it's used. I had heard that this is a Navy thing. Certainly in the Air Force we said Ma'am.

The new Captain on Castle prefers "sir".

I don't think it's a "feminist" thing, though. Not like "call me Senator" Boxer.

Posted by: Synova at December 07, 2012 09:48 PM (7/PU+)

249 I wonder what the enterprises carbon footprint is?

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 09:48 PM (0fxcV)

250 I've watched the trailer 5 times now. Shit.

Posted by: L is starting to think there will be no SMOD and looking for alternatives to LIB at December 07, 2012 09:49 PM (0PiQ4)

251 "242 Troi and Doctor Crusher exercise." I'm guessing Takei didn't bookmark that URL.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:49 PM (DC1tz)

252 It might be Ma'am while you're the medical officer and "Sir" when you're acting (or actual) Captain.

?

Maybe someone knows.

Posted by: Synova at December 07, 2012 09:49 PM (7/PU+)

253 *mad

Posted by: Ben at December 07, 2012 09:49 PM (xTHBC)

254 Also, while we're discussing Trek stuff, while I love DS9 dearly, all throughout the series, nobody seemed to have any functional shields.

That's true of Trek in general, not just DS9. Shields always work unless it's dramatically inconvenient for them to do so. Same with the transporter.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2012 09:50 PM (OevbG)

255 I'm guessing Takei didn't bookmark that URL.
I don't know. They are wearing great exercise suits.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 07, 2012 09:50 PM (jPVBi)

256 *scribbles signature*
Effective immediately Ensign Sullivan is hereby transferred to ISS Stompy Boots commanded by Captain AlextheChick.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:51 PM (t866N)

257 I wonder what the enterprises carbon footprint is?

In the future, it's plasma footprint.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:51 PM (doBIb)

258 Trying again:

___23.imageshack.us/___23/2505/trekspoiler.png

___23.
imageshack.us
___23
2505
trekspoiler.png

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:51 PM (DC1tz)

259 The ___ crap is "___".

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:52 PM (DC1tz)

260 Bastiges.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:52 PM (DC1tz)

261 Looks like they bought some of that lava planet footage from Lucas.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:52 PM (3E2th)

262 Regarding your continual attempts to distance yourself from the trek knowledge you possess: The lady doth protest too much.

Posted by: ChrisValentine at December 07, 2012 09:52 PM (ht3c8)

263 The red dragon is born out of anger. Do you see?

The dragon takes the shape of man. Do you see?

The dragon must prey upon man. Do you see?

The dragon becomes a God. Do you see? Do you see? DO YOU SEE?

Posted by: Francis Dollarhyde, Showing Some Slides From His Trip To the Museum at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (LCRYB)

264 If this doesn't work, I give up:

bit.ly/VCtnsu

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (DC1tz)

265 Looks like Lor to me. Is the same actor going to play Data as well? Ugh.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (kTTUz)

266 I wonder what the enterprises carbon footprint is?

You joke, but late in TNG they came up with this concept that the warp drive was somehow polluting spacetime and they had to stay below Warp 5 or something lest it kill space spotted owls or some crap.

DS9 thankfully never acknowledged that bit of idiocy.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (OevbG)

267 The ___ crap is "___".

The blog software eats "i m g" and "i m a g e".

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (jz/Gm)

268 I wonder what the enterprises carbon footprint is?

In the future, it's plasma footprint.
Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:51 PM (doBIb)

it is actually their warp footprint - entire episode of next generation considered how warp travel was wrecking the universe and some hippie lost rainforest tribe equivalents were bitching and moaning about how the fabric of space was getting shredded in their neighborhood and everyone should go back to internal combustion spaceships.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

269 Ricardo Montalban was Mexican, not Spanish.

Posted by: Al at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (V70Uh)

270 Who cares? As long as there are a lot of scenes of Chris Pine looking HOT.

Posted by: Susy at December 07, 2012 09:54 PM (zDV9T)

271 monatbaln's ship did have really nice upholstery

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 07, 2012 09:54 PM (Z9EHQ)

272 it is actually their warp footprint - entire episode of next generation
considered how warp travel was wrecking the universe and some hippie
lost rainforest tribe equivalents were bitching and moaning about how
the fabric of space was getting shredded in their neighborhood and
everyone should go back to internal combustion spaceships.


I remember that one!

Then Gene Roddenberry died and the writing became tolerable.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:54 PM (doBIb)

273 Shields, engines, transporters, phasers, shuttles, and photon torpedoes will fail when most dramatic. Plot driven reliability.

The transporter was invented to save air time and money. They figured it would take about 10 minutes of air time to land the ship. Plus shooting the sequence. Transporter effect was far cheaper and it also opened up a whole new range of options for the writers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:55 PM (t866N)

274 However warp drive comes to be, I know it will take a butt load of energy to effect.

Maybe not. If you're not trying to accelerate a mass in the usual sense, rather make the space around it do something, then F=MA for the vehicle and degenerate to zero.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 07, 2012 09:55 PM (xaPEC)

275 Corinthian leather was from New Jersey.
And probably naugahyde.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 09:56 PM (DC1tz)

276
That's true of Trek in general, not just DS9.
Shields always work unless it's dramatically inconvenient for them to do
so. Same with the transporter.


Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2012 09:50 PM (OevbG)

Eh, true I guess. I mean, the Borg get away with it, they're the Borg, they rip through just about everything, but the rest of the antagonists don't get that excuse. That's half of why I loved Nemesis so much, a damned good space battle where all the combatants actually had shields. Damned GLORIOUS space battle, even if they basically wrecked my favorite starship ever. >_<

I hated that part of the first Abrams movie, where Enterprise warps in to Vulcan space, and promptly gets smacked by a piece of wreckage in the left nacelle. I was growling about it in my head, but some dude in the front row says out loud "Where are the fucking shields?!" and got some nasty comments for his trouble.

Trekkies always make the movies fun. At Nemesis, when Data beamed Picard off the Scimitar, and turned to blast the thalaron array to dust (and himself as well), some chick behind me wailed "Please God, not Data!"

Frikkin' hilarious.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 09:57 PM (Lvgz1)

277 177

In the reboot Kirk hadn't graduated. They took a bunch of cadets up to the ship for an exercise and then... stuff happened.

I think Spock was meant to be something like a graduate student. So, in charge of other cadets but maybe not out of the academy yet himself?

I suppose I'm not a Trekkie enough to have paid all that much attention, and I only watched it the one time, so I could be wrong.

Posted by: Synova at December 07, 2012 09:58 PM (7/PU+)

278 Effective immediately Ensign Sullivan is hereby transferred to ISS Stompy Boots commanded by Captain AlextheChick.
Party's over. No ice cream for you. I'll take you homo home again, Kathleen!

Posted by: ensign andi sullivan at December 07, 2012 09:58 PM (jPVBi)

279 Actually, Sir would be the Uber Feminist and empowering term. (Since they have yet to even come up with a all inclusive term for a group of woman that isn't "girls" or "ladies" and you can't say womens so they're stuck with "guys". How pointed is that?)

By using the term Sir for all senior officers or even equal ranked officers during certain formal circumstances, there is a certain "equality" of outcome that would seem to be more likely than not.

It also has the effect of uniformity.

However, last I heard, Ma'am is the appropriate title used by anyone addressing a female officer in all the US services .

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 09:58 PM (3E2th)

280 Anyone watch Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome?

Tonight was the final 2 eps.

I liked it! Much, much better than the series which was gawdawful after the first season. BC is straight up action, none of the bullshit religion and philosophy.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 09:58 PM (doBIb)

281 Carbon will become a non-issue 100B years from now when stars are fusing all our elements into super heavy shit in the island of stability.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. In the long run, carbon ceases to exist.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 07, 2012 09:58 PM (xaPEC)

282 >.> They figured it would take about 10 minutes of air time to land the ship

it was about money, not time. It's expensive to film a model landing on a model terrain. Plus, then you would have to show the people in relation to the ship -- that would require another special effect, another optical composite.

if you watch this old clip from the titles of "UFO" you'll see dudes jumping into some kind of tubes in order to gain the cockpits of their ships and vehicles. That was done for the same reason as the transporter in Star Trek -- it would have been too expensive to show actors in relation to the miniature vehicles. So they invented this idea of "jump tubes" which put you into the cockpit, conveniently off camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQUdcYk82U

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:59 PM (LCRYB)

283 I still cringe at Deanna Troi's wedding. They are dressed like they serve aboard the Love Boat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:59 PM (t866N)

284 Watching Snow White and the Huntsman wife the wife.


Wife "Charlize is strikingly beautiful."


Me "She's fucking hot."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 07, 2012 09:59 PM (GEICT)

285 Transporter effect was far cheaper and it also opened up a whole new range of options for the writers.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Which I still think is a mess.

Why not just set up a bunch of 'transporter relays' throughout the universe like satellites and just transporter the whole ship and everyone instantly?

Another thing, for a science mission they really didn't seem to do much 'science.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 10:00 PM (08zV/)

286 263 The red dragon is born out of anger. Do you see?

The dragon takes the shape of man. Do you see?

The dragon must prey upon man. Do you see?

The dragon becomes a God. Do you see? Do you see? DO YOU SEE?
Posted by: Francis Dollarhyde, Showing Some Slides From His Trip To the Museum at December 07, 2012 09:53 PM (LCRYB)

CHEERS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR7q-qf3VSQ

The Six Demon Bag!

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:00 PM (vGtOG)

287 Is it Kirk or Mitchell that gets the special uniform due to the weight gain issue (because they got too busy during shooting to work out), or will that be left for a hero/villain in the third movie?

Posted by: H. at December 07, 2012 10:00 PM (PVxAN)

288 I think Spock was meant to be something like a graduate student. So, in
charge of other cadets but maybe not out of the academy yet himself?


Spock was a commissioned officer, a Lieutenant. He was second in command after Pike. He later relieves himself from duty, which then makes Cadet Kirk the ranking officer and commander of the Enterprise. By that time Pike was crippled from the bug Nero put in him, so he was out of the picture.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 10:00 PM (doBIb)

289 Thanks for the reminder EC. Now I gotta go look up those last 2 episodes.

Posted by: CDR M at December 07, 2012 10:00 PM (dKV5k)

290 Regarding the subspace footprint referenced with much disgust above, in the apocrypha, they tried to explain it away by advances in warp technology which rendered the previous environmental concerns moot. Can't be having warp drive brought down by something as petty as the environment, they think to themselves, and so they desperately seek a way around it. O.o Totally predictable!



With that said, I would like to point out at this time that space is pretty big. Yer average Lefty Trek fan may not be aware of it, but space is really, really, REALLY big. If your environmental concern doesn't start with "O" and end with "mega", then it isn't an environmental concern on a galactic scale. It just ain't. >_>

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 10:01 PM (Lvgz1)

291 What I *want* to watch is Bourne Legacy, or Ted, or maybe even Total Recall (though that looks awful).

But what I have available is Dark Knight Rises, which I already saw and didn't love, or the Expendables 2, which I didn't see, but I turned off the first one, because I thought it was lame.

Any suggestions?

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:02 PM (LCRYB)

292 ace @ 282, fishnet shirts on the men, yikes.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 10:03 PM (DC1tz)

293 ONT up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 07, 2012 10:03 PM (piMMO)

294 If this doesn't work, I give up:



bit.ly/VCtnsu


That seems pretty conclusive to me. Note her blue uniform. The last scene of the hands on window in the Japanese trailer that seems like Kirk and Spock from ST2 is probably Kirk and her.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 10:03 PM (hO9ad)

295 I think Spock was meant to be something like a graduate student. So, in charge of other cadets but maybe not out of the academy yet himself?

I suppose I'm not a Trekkie enough to have paid all that much attention, and I only watched it the one time, so I could be wrong.
Posted by: Synova at December 07, 2012 09:58 PM (7/PU+)

Pretty sure Spock had actual rank. Also, Vulcans age more slowly. Could have been some time between his graduation and Kirk's arrival.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:03 PM (vGtOG)

296 By that time Pike was crippled from the bug Nero put in him, so he was out of the picture.
Beep.

Posted by: captain christopher pike at December 07, 2012 10:03 PM (jPVBi)

297 if you watch this old clip from the titles of "UFO" you'll see dudes jumping into some kind of tubes in order to gain the cockpits of their ships and vehicles.
Posted by: ace


Now you're just baiting me.

Posted by: George Takei at December 07, 2012 10:04 PM (08zV/)

298

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 09:59 PM (LCRYB)

Hot damn, that reminds me of Levar Burton's old Reading Rainbow episode about Star Trek.
Nostalgia just kicked me in the face, hard. Wow, I feel old. ._. I was a kid when all that was goin' on.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 07, 2012 10:04 PM (Lvgz1)

299 Here's something fun for the hardcore Trekkers that was released this week:

http://youtu.be/UA34dfODi4M

Posted by: Gran at December 07, 2012 10:04 PM (0pcT0)

300 I haven't seen the Japanese trailer. Off to see the Japanese trailer.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 10:05 PM (DC1tz)

301 The temporal surge they detected was caused by an explosion of a microscopic singularity passing through this solar system. Somehow, the energy emitted by the singularity shifted the chroniton particles in the hull into a high state of temporal polarisation.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2012 10:05 PM (lgELp)

302 Any suggestions?

A little known Neil Marshall movie called "Doomsday". He's the guy behind Dog Soldiers and The Descent.

Turn off your brain and just enjoy the ride. This movie is like Resident Evil, Road Warrior, and Gladiator all combined together. It's balls to the wall action, but it's very well done. The lead character is a woman, one of the Lara Croft body models, who is actually smart and does smart things. She does not get naked and show her tits, but is really tough as nails and kicks more ass than both Expendables put together.

Try it.

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 10:05 PM (doBIb)

303 We're all still kids . . . inside.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 07, 2012 10:05 PM (3E2th)

304 @291

Have you seen trouble with the curve?

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 10:06 PM (0fxcV)

305 Any suggestions?
Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:02 PM (LCRYB)

Safe. Lawless.

Lawless is kinda slow, and has Shia La Boef, but I find myself re-watching it.

Oldman is was underused - but fantastic.

I think I just like the depiction of a people and an era where brass knuckles are an appropriate answer to threat. Also, free enterprise.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:06 PM (vGtOG)

306 Ace, you might catch up on Season 3 of The Walking Dead or watch Battlestar Galactica Blood and Chrome on the internet.

Posted by: CDR M at December 07, 2012 10:08 PM (dKV5k)

307 Moonrise kingdom was good.

Not wes Anderson's best but better than most of the rubbish out there.

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 07, 2012 10:09 PM (0fxcV)

308 Weft Cut-Loop. In the original Star Trek series format or bible transporters are addressed. It is called a matter-scrambler and is described as short ranged line of sight and energy intensive. - pg 26 'The Making of Star Trek : What it is - how it happened - how it works!' by Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry. 1968.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 10:10 PM (t866N)

309 Ace, DON'T WATCH EXPENDABLES 2!!!! PRETEND IT DOESN'T EXIST!

And I never type in all caps, but this is serious.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 07, 2012 10:10 PM (Tt6ky)

310 I can't find doomsday available. On Lawless, I heard it was kind of pointless. Not in the movie for that kind of thing anyway.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:10 PM (LCRYB)

311 >>>Moonrise kingdom was good.

I saw it in the theaters. Very cute and fun.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:11 PM (LCRYB)

312 I still need to watch Cabin In The Woods.

Posted by: CDR M at December 07, 2012 10:12 PM (dKV5k)

313 Yeah I'm staying away from The Expendables 2. I didn't like 1, either.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:12 PM (LCRYB)

314 I can't find doomsday available. On Lawless, I heard it was kind of pointless. Not in the movie for that kind of thing anyway.
Posted by: ace

Netflix?

That Liam Nieson Alaska-crash- survival- wolf thing is available.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 10:13 PM (08zV/)

315 310 I can't find doomsday available. On Lawless, I heard it was kind of pointless. Not in the movie for that kind of thing anyway.
Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:10 PM (LCRYB)

Safe with Stratham - good stuff.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:14 PM (vGtOG)

316 hm, Wolf thing is on netflix? I would watch that.

Posted by: ace at December 07, 2012 10:14 PM (LCRYB)

317 I was thinking it was a re-imagining of Finnegan (from Shore Leave).

But, yes, Gary Mitchell makes more sense.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at December 07, 2012 10:14 PM (mAm+G)

318 Yup, Expendables 2 was lousy, but it was stil better than Prometheus.

Posted by: Hoss Fuentes at December 07, 2012 10:14 PM (aozUR)

319 I can't find doomsday available. On Lawless, I heard it was kind of pointless. Not in the movie for that kind of thing anyway.

Are you using Netflix?

Posted by: EC at December 07, 2012 10:15 PM (doBIb)

320 Picard at the replicator: "Dump, steaming."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2012 10:15 PM (lgELp)

321 Even after the correction, you still managed to spell Sulu's first name wrong. Loose shit.

Posted by: Brennan at December 07, 2012 10:15 PM (bpbtD)

322 Jet Li was the smart one in Expendables 2. He bailed early in the movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 10:15 PM (t866N)

323 A little known Neil Marshall movie called "Doomsday"

Ugh. That was the one with the graphic canabalism, wasn't it?

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 10:16 PM (hO9ad)

324 322 Jet Li was the smart one in Expendables 2. He bailed early in the movie.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 10:15 PM (t866N)

Jesus - yeah, he did didn't he? Ha!

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:16 PM (vGtOG)

325 Liam Neeson's in They Grey

me no spell gud.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 10:17 PM (08zV/)

326 They've released some sample MP3's from the collection at http://www.lalalandrecords.com/STTOS.html, some examples:

"Charlie X": http://bit.ly/VRHsyL

"The Corbomite Manuever": http://bit.ly/QOpGwY

"Amok Time": http://bit.ly/TKB91e

"The Doomsday Machine": http://bit.ly/11UIcHs

Posted by: Gran at December 07, 2012 10:17 PM (0pcT0)

327 If we are going to mess up the Star Trek universe, might as well let some furballs have the honor. Hey you Hoka! Here is this great idea of exploring space.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 10:18 PM (t866N)

328 Ugh. That was the one with the graphic canabalism, wasn't it?
Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 10:16 PM (hO9ad)

Did not know that. And I get a little exasperated at the fighting chicks movie. It's feminist mental masturbation. We can't bomb or shoot anything in a meaningful fashion in real life because women freak out in epic seizures of moral superiority when they see it on CNN, but every other damn movie paints them out to be brutally kick-ass superwarriors.

Please.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:19 PM (vGtOG)

329 The transporter was invented to save air time and
money. They figured it would take about 10 minutes of air time to land
the ship. Plus shooting the sequence. Transporter effect was far cheaper
and it also opened up a whole new range of options for the writers.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 09:55 PM (t866N)

IIRC, the various versions of the Enterprise always had a shuttlecraft in the landing bay. I remember episodes when the shuttlecraft was used, but I can't remember why it was chosen over the transporter, at least within the narrative of the plot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2012 10:19 PM (29+x5)

330 325 Liam Neeson's in They Grey

me no spell gud.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 10:17 PM (08zV/)

That movie was stuck on stupid.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:19 PM (vGtOG)

331
He completely glosses over the Kobayashi Maru scenario like it's joke. In ST2, you get the impression that Kirk actually put an effort into making it through the simulation with a modicum of effort, even though he cheats. The new Kirk douches his way through it.

*facepalm*

And did you read my comment?

If you watched the movie you would notice that when he cheats its at least the second time that he has attempted it and based on Bones reaction it's likely been more than that.

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2012 10:20 PM (sWI/N)

332 In Metamorphosis, a shuttle was used to ferry an ill Federation ambassador back to Enterprise. And that is how we met a certain Mr. Cochran. Not the nervous nelly from First Contact.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 07, 2012 10:21 PM (t866N)

333 That movie was stuck on stupid.
Posted by: Hollywood Accountants


Like I've written before regarding the 3 Hobbit flicks, I'm going to watch it, and there's not a damned thing you can do to dissuade me.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 10:22 PM (08zV/)

334 Gran: "Amok Time": http://bit.ly/TKB91e "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O23EzxT-Ug Ace Ventura kicking Ferris Bueller's ass.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 10:23 PM (DC1tz)

335 Warp core ejectors are the most poorly designed equipment in the ST universe.



OFFLINE

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 07, 2012 10:23 PM (QupBk)

336 Like I've written before regarding the 3 Hobbit flicks, I'm going to watch it, and there's not a damned thing you can do to dissuade me.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 07, 2012 10:22 PM (08zV/)

hey man, go ahead. I got it because it thought it'd be a Taken-like deal with Neeson kicking all sorts of ass.

But all I wanted to do was kick him in the teeth; ultimately it was the writer's fault. Just awful.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:26 PM (vGtOG)

337 "Polarize the hull plating. It's too friggin' sunny out."

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 07, 2012 10:26 PM (DC1tz)

338 If you watched the movie you would notice that when he cheats its at least the second time that he has attempted it and based on Bones reaction it's likely been more than that.
Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2012 10:20 PM (sWI/N)

They say it's the 3rd time, but he spends more time making out with the Orion slave-girl cadet than we are shown figuring out how to reprogram and beat Spock's test.

I would like to have known that, too.

Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:28 PM (vGtOG)

339 A little known Neil Marshall movie called "Doomsday". He's the guy behind Dog Soldiers and The Descent.

Doomsday Book?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 07, 2012 10:28 PM (QupBk)

340 But all I wanted to do was kick him in the teeth; ultimately it was the writer's fault. Just awful. Posted by: Hollywood Accountants

Considering that post Ace put up earlier this week, it may have not been the writer's fault, per se, but "executive notes." But, yes, point understood.


Posted by: George Takei at December 07, 2012 10:31 PM (08zV/)

341 I don't have any beef with eventsAbrams' reboot. It's a reboot, he can do anything he wants to the TOS timeline after Nero shows up.

My quibbles are two: one, Kirk goes from disgraced cadet on academic probation to Captain and commander of Starfleet's newest ship. Right. I don't care how smart a guy is, it takes years of experience for a young kid to learn to do captain shit. Kid to O-6, that stuff happens in Banana Republics and North Korea, and only if you're the dictator's son or nephew.

Second, Spock is a full Commander. A commissioned officer, instructing at the academy. And bumping uglies with a cadet. Not just wrong, horrendously career killing wrong. But maybe in Starfleet senior officers screwing extremely junior personnel is cool.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at December 07, 2012 10:32 PM (HoGA+)

342 They say it's the 3rd time, but he spends more time making out with the Orion slave-girl cadet than we are shown figuring out how to reprogram and beat Spock's test.

I would like to have known that, too.
Posted by: Hollywood Accountants at December 07, 2012 10:28 PM (vGtOG)

Oh definitely. Ten more minutes of screen time at the academy would have been good. Doing the reprogramming and some conflict with instructors but coming out ahead. Certainly room for improvement on that first one.

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2012 10:35 PM (cjZlF)

343 They say it's the 3rd time, but he spends more time making out with the
Orion slave-girl cadet than we are shown figuring out how to reprogram
and beat Spock's test.


I assumed those sequences were one and the same. Orion girl's roomate was Uhura, who's dating Spock. Whatever Kirk used to hack the simulator, I assume he got through the Orion girl.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 10:35 PM (hO9ad)

344 @343

Yes - there's a deleted scene that pretty much explains that.

Posted by: Gran at December 07, 2012 10:39 PM (0pcT0)

345 That Orion chick was too human.

All these "alien" characters, they either paint or put a plastic forehead on, and we're supposed to be convinced they're "alien".

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 07, 2012 10:40 PM (lgELp)

346 That Orion chick was too human.



All these "alien" characters, they either paint or put a plastic
forehead on, and we're supposed to be convinced they're "alien".


Kirk needs someplace to interface.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2012 10:51 PM (hO9ad)

347 Here you go, Ace.

http://tinyurl.com/aezyvlu

Posted by: Sgt. York at December 07, 2012 11:07 PM (WHcjL)

348 Betcha Kahn is 1/32 Cherokee Indian.

Posted by: torabora at December 07, 2012 11:14 PM (cAONf)

349 Betcha Khan is Chaka Khan's older brother, dumbass.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at December 07, 2012 11:18 PM (HoGA+)

350 Come on. How long do I have to wait for somebody to post "Yeah, well... double dumbass on <i>you!</i>"

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at December 07, 2012 11:29 PM (HoGA+)

351 Baaaarrrrrrackkkkkkk!

Posted by: Rob in Katy at December 07, 2012 11:58 PM (PiTBB)

352 What up?

Posted by: Bon Qui Qui at December 08, 2012 12:18 AM (/sZ/D)

353 Late to the party...
It is Gary
His ship is the Valiant
The blond is Elizabeth Dehner
The episode was "Where no man has gone before"

Posted by: James Madison at December 08, 2012 12:48 AM (T//x+)

354 And for some reason, Hikaru Sulu has a middle name. I forget what it is, but technically, Japanese people don't do middle names.

They also don't usually do L's, but it does happen from time to time, like anime legend Leiji Matsumoto, who actually does spell his name with an L.

Japanese has a sound that's halfway between an L and an R. It's usually represented as an R when transliterating. When men say it, it sounds more like the rolled R you'll hear in Spanish or with a Scottish accent; when women say it, it sounds more like an L.

When they're transliterating our words, our softer R's following vowels are often represented as lengthened vowels. For instance, manga artist Johji Manabe's name is actually George Manabe. The soft R in George is represented in Japanese by lengthening the O.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at December 08, 2012 12:56 AM (RLZvP)

355 I looked up Sulu on Wikipedia to see if they had his middle name there, and they don't. They do, however, have the origin of the name Sulu...

George Takei recalled Gene Roddenberry wanted the character to represent all of Asia, which symbolized the peace of the Trek
universe in spite of the numerous wars in the continent. Roddenberry
did not want a nationally specific surname, so he looked at a map and
saw the Sulu Sea.

"He thought, 'Ah, the waters of that sea touch all shores'," the actor
recalled, "and that's how my character came to have the name Sulu."

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at December 08, 2012 01:07 AM (RLZvP)

356 Oh, and also, the meaning of Hikaru is "shine". Just in case anyone was wondering.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler (@ProthonotaryW) at December 08, 2012 01:11 AM (RLZvP)

357 tinyurl.com/bj6fob7 A variation on #347.

Posted by: Parking Lot Bozo at December 08, 2012 01:25 AM (DC1tz)

358 I get to explain it all?? W00T!!!

Posted by: Deanna at December 08, 2012 01:27 AM (QjZhI)

359 The blonde lieutenant is played by Alice Eve, who played the incredible hottie who hooked up with the loser nerd in "She's Out of My League."


Posted by: little miss spellcheck at December 08, 2012 08:17 AM (a5ljo)

360
Alice Eve's character has the same type of haircut Sally Kellerman (Dr. Elizabeth Dehner)had in "Where no Man has gone Before".
http://tinyurl.com/a97btyq

Posted by: perdogg at December 08, 2012 09:03 AM (Ttf/I)

361 Like it, don't like it, discuss it, opine about it, outdo everyone with your knowledge (obtained online. I see that bookmark to Memory Alpha there).

As an entertainment, I see that TPTB have had their intended effect.

Posted by: TheSev at December 08, 2012 09:50 AM (iHeMr)

362 WTF? This is like James Tiberius Kirk meets Bane in Gotham City, or something.

Posted by: Fritz at December 08, 2012 10:26 AM (ZA675)

363 But maybe in Starfleet senior officers screwing extremely junior personnel is cool.
I wish!

Posted by: yeoman rand at December 08, 2012 10:37 AM (jPVBi)

364 It's going to be Gary Seven, with Teri Garr reprising her role as whatsherface.

Posted by: Bobby Shandy at December 08, 2012 01:20 PM (b1iOR)

365 Benedict Cumberbatch has the sexiest voice on the planet.
Doesn't hurt that he's smokin' hot, either. So yeah, I'll be there.

Posted by: Niere at December 08, 2012 01:52 PM (PNrbt)

366 thanks

Posted by: ‘«  ŕ—«řš« at December 08, 2012 03:37 PM (8dNBD)

367 Gary?

I thought we were in a different time line/Universe from the TV Show?

Posted by: Mojo at December 08, 2012 08:19 PM (nqyLY)

368 The villain IMO is likely to be Captain Garth of Izar If you remember the character from the OS then it would fit this part

en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Garth_of_Izar

Posted by: McGuire at December 09, 2012 03:37 AM (Jqaju)






Processing 0.05, elapsed 0.0571 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0151 seconds, 377 records returned.
Page size 178 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.

MuNuvians
MeeNuvians
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat