Michigan State Legislature Passes Right To Work Law

Michigan. Michigan? Yes, Michigan. This will make them the 24th Right to Work state in America.

Earlier today:

The House vote also fell mostly along party lines, 58-52, with all Democrats and some Republicans opposing it. Democratic House floor leader Kate Segal, D-Battle Creek, said she would ask to reconsider the vote on HB 4054 during the next day of session, but that decision will be up to Speaker Jase Bolger, R-Marshall.

And just hours ago:

The Michigan Senate passed their first bill by a 22-16 vote, with Democrats and a few Republicans voting against it. A separate bill approving right-to-work strictly for public-sector workers passed a few minutes afterward by a 22-4 vote. The chamber's 12 Democrats walked off the floor in protest and were purposely absent for that vote.

As you may expect, the unions aren't taking the news well.

Governor Snyder had asked the House and Senate Republicans not to move forward with RTW legislation. However, the RTW proponents were encouraged to push forward after the pro-union initiatives were soundly defeated in the 2012 general election. One of the initiatives, Proposal 2, would have enshrined collective bargaining into the constitution. It was defeated 60%-40%.

I've been told there is a five day waiting period before the bill reaches Governor Snyder's desk. He has previously stated that he would not veto RTW legislation should it come across his desk.

This is a major victory on the Midwestern front comrades. While Obama may have won soundly in 2012, many of his individual constituencies are still unpopular.

For more background on the battle in Michigan read this article.

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Posted by: BenK at 08:29 PM



Comments

1 How long before a judge stops it? I say Jan 15th.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:31 PM (HDgX3)

2 Hahahahaha.

Posted by: huerfano at December 06, 2012 08:31 PM (bAGA/)

3 By the time Obama's done, so will the Unions be.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at December 06, 2012 08:31 PM (BAnPT)

4

woo hooo!

Posted by: soothsayer at December 06, 2012 08:32 PM (8dspl)

5 Oddly (or not) Democrats are more popular than their policies are.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 08:32 PM (Tt6ky)

6 We need to work on posting technique in Ace's absence.

Posted by: tommylotto at December 06, 2012 08:33 PM (LBxr1)

7 What good will the right to work be when obama is done and unemployment is over 12%?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2012 08:33 PM (79ueO)

8 Sanity? Is that what I smell?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 08:34 PM (QupBk)

9 Well, this is an interesting kind of double-post.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 06, 2012 08:34 PM (POfhd)

10 Weird shit on this post.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 08:34 PM (O6q63)

11 6
Oddly (or not) Democrats are more popular than their policies are.


Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 08:32 PM (Tt6ky)

___________________________________________
GOP controls MI because in 2010 they won big. They did this because blacks didn't show up to vote. They did show up in 2012 to vote for The WON. Looks like any victories we might get will be done via mid-term elections.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:34 PM (HDgX3)

12 Were those guys expecting something to fall out of the sky or do they just like rockin' the hardhats?

Posted by: huerfano at December 06, 2012 08:34 PM (bAGA/)

13 6
Oddly (or not) Democrats are more popular than their policies are.
--

File under: Importance of the media and the schools.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 06, 2012 08:35 PM (lQczv)

14 Dude

Posted by: Dept of Redundancy Department at December 06, 2012 08:35 PM (Qg1n0)

15 Hey, it's an internal double post!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 08:35 PM (QupBk)

16 5 RDO

Why do you think it took so long? Are you imagining that Ace had to rush out and cash his check from Boehner? Is Ace secretly in cahoots with the RNC and Faux News? A conspiracy is really the only possible explanation after ruling out all the other possible explanations.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 08:35 PM (Tt6ky)

17

Get back under the stairs, freak.

Posted by: soothsayer at December 06, 2012 08:35 PM (vanqS)

18 I've gotta make a blog post, make a blog post.

Posted by: Jimmy Two-Times at December 06, 2012 08:35 PM (POfhd)

19 1 Yeah,can't get excited because I don't feel like it will stand.The tide is against conservatism.

Posted by: steevy at December 06, 2012 08:36 PM (9XBK2)

20 Maybe they should organize Mcdonalds.

Posted by: BignJames at December 06, 2012 08:36 PM (Sg0G/)

21 Sorry for the formatting issues, lousy copy and paste messed it all up. Swearsies.

Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2012 08:36 PM (xTHBC)

22 Am I seeing double already? Kinda early for me ...

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at December 06, 2012 08:36 PM (GRvW4)

23 @12:"Looks like any victories we might get will be done via mid-term elections.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:34 PM (HDgX3)
--This assumes the Dems aren't datamining the piss out of all the info they got from the 2012 (really the 2008-forever) campaign, and aren't solidifying ways of getting "uninterested voters" to the polls by *ahem* unorthodox means (e.g., free shit).

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 06, 2012 08:37 PM (lQczv)

24 TD Denver.....

Posted by: Tami at December 06, 2012 08:37 PM (X6akg)

25 Local elections have real world consequences too. But the irony is that a substantial percentage of the Internet-talk radio-cable TV poseur blocs won't be able to connect those dots, even you explained things to them using a puppet show and Hooked on Phonics. In any event, right to work laws are crucial to economic growth and to overall job creation. All other things being equal states that have them are far more prosperous than states which don't have them. This is very bad news for unions. Very good news for Michigan.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at December 06, 2012 08:37 PM (pmsMR)

26 He has previously stated that he would not veto RTW legislation should it come across his desk.

Ah. I'm back to counting eggs on this one. Even if it's signed into law, expect a couple of years of lawfare. Democrats and thieves, birm, never give up.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 08:38 PM (QupBk)

27 Posted by: Romney Defeats Obama at December 06, 2012 08:32 PM


You should ask for a refund on your subscription fee.

Posted by: huerfano at December 06, 2012 08:38 PM (bAGA/)

28 There was no double post within a post. You all just have bad vision.

Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2012 08:38 PM (xTHBC)

29 yeah this will be overturned in court- opponents are shopping for the right judge as I type this

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 08:39 PM (8sCoq)

30 Covering up your 'crime' eh?

Posted by: esch at December 06, 2012 08:40 PM (Qg1n0)

31 Yes Manning took them right down the field for 6

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 08:40 PM (8sCoq)

32 --This assumes the Dems aren't datamining the piss
out of all the info they got from the 2012 (really the 2008-forever)
campaign, and aren't solidifying ways of getting "uninterested voters"
to the polls by *ahem* unorthodox means (e.g., free shit).


Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 06, 2012 08:37 PM (lQczv)

___________________True. But a lot of people just don't care about elections that don't involve the Prezzy. This goes on both sides of the aisle. Which is why the party out of the white house usually has big mid-term wins....it's the really commited voters that give a shit and actually vote. 2014 should be another good year for us....but then again, given how inept Boehner is, who knows?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:40 PM (HDgX3)

33
Wisconsin redux.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 06, 2012 08:40 PM (n/ubI)

34 Here's the deal. Life sucks because we lost the WH and the US Senate.

BUT--we gained governors, and there are more statehouses controlled by Repubs now than in decades.

We can fight the monster at the state level for now, while angling to get more seats at the national level in 2014.

Posted by: stace, L.I.B. at December 06, 2012 08:40 PM (m+UHL)

35 GOP controls MI because in 2010 they won big. They did this because
blacks didn't show up to vote. They did show up in 2012 to vote for The
WON. Looks like any victories we might get will be done via mid-term
elections.


Dude, you're harshing my mellow.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 06, 2012 08:40 PM (6TB1Z)

36 If the federal deduction for property taxes were to be eliminated, more wars would break out against the public unions on a city, county and statewide basis all across America.

Good for Michigan.

Posted by: Deli LLama at December 06, 2012 08:41 PM (lGu1O)

37 Yay.

I walked by the Capitol this afternoon - after reading news reports I was surprised how small the protest seemed to be. A few hundred people in a state of 10 million? Maybe it was because of how quickly these bills materialized - but as you say, Prop 2 fell 60-40 last election.

Posted by: longerthoughts at December 06, 2012 08:41 PM (CVVLU)

38 >>yeah this will be overturned in court- opponents are shopping for the right judge as I type this

They haven't been able to do that in Wisconsin yet.

Let's not get so down on ourselves. This is a victory. It's a major victory.

Unions are on the decline in this county and that's a good thing. It's one of the few areas where we seem to be winning. Let's enjoy it.

Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2012 08:41 PM (xTHBC)

39 President Barack Obama has repeated his opposition to right-to-work
laws as the Republican-controlled Michigan Legislature moved toward
adopting the union-curbing measure.
The
Michigan House voted Thursday to approve a bill barring unions from
collecting mandatory fees from non-members. The Senate also took up the
bill, and Republican Gov. Rick Snyder endorsed it Thursday.White House spokesman Matt Lehrich says Obama has long opposed right to work laws, “and he continues to oppose them now.”


Obama opposes any work.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at December 06, 2012 08:42 PM (rzTDZ)

40 Last stop, Scum Village!

Posted by: The Gravy Train at December 06, 2012 08:42 PM (ZA675)

41 What is best in life!


http://tinyurl.com/yk7n7bv

Fuck unions.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 08:43 PM (wR+pz)

42 "Of all the gin joints, in all the world"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2012 08:43 PM (79ueO)

43 Unions are on the decline in this county

Private sector unions are, along with the private sector. The tapeworms of the government unions, not so much.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 08:44 PM (QupBk)

44 Unions suck,unions destroy jobs.As ace wrote in his thread yesterday,unions always wind up being supported most by the worst workers.If only good employees would realize that their union is making them pull dead weight(in my experience they DO know,yet they STILL think the union is good for them).

Posted by: steevy at December 06, 2012 08:45 PM (9XBK2)

45 GOP controls MI because in 2010 they won big. They did this because
blacks didn't show up to vote. They did show up in 2012 to vote for The
WON. Looks like any victories we might get will be done via mid-term
elections.


Here's the thing. Although there's no trend in politics, I like where this is going. Let's face it, Obama won in 2012. With the exception of MO and IN Senate, almost all Democrat victories can be pinned to Obama personally and his ability to GOTV.

Now there are a dozen reasons why Obama is able to win, but it was all about him. Nobody else. You can do the War on Women rationalization, but the truth is that all of those "issues" were just cover for the fact that people were not going to hold Obama accountable for his policies.

The turnout in 2014 will be similar to 2010.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 08:45 PM (T0NGe)

46 Private sector unions are, along with the private sector. The tapeworms of the government unions, not so much

THIS. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 06, 2012 08:45 PM (RqkrF)

47 Math is raciss. It doesn't care what the union wants.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 06, 2012 08:46 PM (d0Dmj)

48 I sure hope President Romney abolishes the Department of Labor.

Wait.

Oh, yeah.

Never mind.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 08:47 PM (ThczH)

49 #36:
Harshing your mellow, or mellowing your harsh? It's hard to tell the difference with Eeyore.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at December 06, 2012 08:47 PM (pEQ6r)

50
What might be scaring the unions is the fact that Indiana is right south of us. How it works--well--is obvious.
And it's not hard to get to Michigan from Indiana. Anybody who wants to move his business south can still get up to the Great Lakes State for hunting, skiing, snow sports, boating, and various kinds of resorting from tents and jerky to posh condos.
IOW, you get the best of both worlds.
Got to be getting somebody's attention.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at December 06, 2012 08:47 PM (z4bFV)

51 Closed-shop unions are unconstitutional.

They violate freedom of association (1st amendment) and involuntary servitude (13th amendment).

Of course, I didn't go to law school, but that was hampered by my ability to read and to think.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 08:47 PM (T0NGe)

52

Were those guys expecting something to fall out of the sky or do they just like rockin' the hardhats?


Posted by: huerfano



It's fun to stay at the Yyyy---M-C-A

Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 08:48 PM (UaxA0)

53 The turnout in 2014 will be similar to 2010.


Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 08:45 PM (T0NGe)

__________________________________
Not so fast. 2010 was a big year because conservatives had this crazy idea that if cons won elections, they'd do conservative things once in office. In 2014 cons know that it doesn't matter who wins, Boehner will give Obama whatever he wants, whenever he wants it, then have a good cry. You think a lot of people stayed home in 2012? Just wait until 2014.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:48 PM (HDgX3)

54 Unions suck,unions destroy jobs.As ace wrote in his thread yesterday,unions always wind up being supported most by the worst workers.

That's because the purpose of a union, at least a modern union, is to subsidize the lazy and protect the incompetent.

Unions mean something in this country once. They were needed. Now they're just like any other parasitical infection.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 06, 2012 08:48 PM (RqkrF)

55 The turnout in 2014 will be similar to 2010.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 08:45 PM (T0NGe)

I agree.

And in 2016 the GOP will step on its vagina again.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 08:48 PM (ThczH)

56 Democratic House floor leader Kate Segal, D-Battle Creek


***

I really liked her in Married With Children.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2012 08:49 PM (piMMO)

57 >>>I'm just wondering, what took so long.
Posted by: Romney Defeats Obama at December 06, 2012 08:32 PM (KdyqO)

Why so ... curious?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 08:49 PM (0q2P7)

58 Twinkie union hardest hit.

Posted by: sTevo at December 06, 2012 08:50 PM (VMcEw)

59 And in 2016 the GOP will step on its vagina again.

If the Democrats can nominate another black man, maybe.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 08:50 PM (T0NGe)

60 yeah this will be overturned in court- opponents are shopping for the right judge as I type this

They haven't been able to do that in Wisconsin yet.



Posted by: Ben at December 06, 2012 08:41 PM (xTHBC)

_____________________________
Try again.http://tinyurl.com/a9trl2r

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:50 PM (HDgX3)

61 It's all over except the crying


CNN

Fiscal Cliff Deal Down to Wrangling Over Details

Both sides agree the wealthy will pay more, so now fiscal
cliff talks come down to how much Republicans can wring out
of the White House in return for giving in on taxes.

To President Barack Obama, it's all about first locking in additional revenue from raising taxes on high-income earners, an outcome the GOP has long rejected.

Republicans led by House Speaker John Boehner want to secure commitments on entitlement reforms and spending cuts opposed by Democrats as part of a broader agreement to reduce the nation's chronic federal deficits and debt.


So again the GOP will cave, they will give the President and the Democrats tax increases immediately in exchange for future cuts that will never materialize or eventually cause a crisis that will lead to another grand-bargain!

I'M MAD AS HELL!!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 08:51 PM (0fxcV)

62 I don't get it dont you know.

Posted by: Olaf from St. Olaf's at December 06, 2012 08:52 PM (8YWGG)

63 5 It takes Ace a while to get around to most things. He often sleeps in. He's going on vacation. Cut the guy some slack.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 06, 2012 08:52 PM (i0vBR)

64 If the Democrats can nominate another black man, maybe.

One thing is absolutely certain. The Dems will never again nominate an all-male, all-white ticket. Well, unless one of the white males is gay.

Posted by: pep at December 06, 2012 08:52 PM (6TB1Z)

65 BOOM!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 08:53 PM (CA2NO)

66


Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 08:51 PM (0fxcV)

_______
Raise your hand if you didn't expect Boehner to cave?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:54 PM (HDgX3)

67 Ace I hate you. You know why.

Posted by: baldilocks at December 06, 2012 08:54 PM (Su0W2)

68 >If the Democrats can nominate another black man, maybe.


Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 08:50 PM (T0NGe)


are you kidding? They've discovered a winning formula. The Democrats may never nominate a white male again.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 08:55 PM (8sCoq)

69 Raising taxes by closing loopholes is better than raising tax rates.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 08:55 PM (Tt6ky)

70 Yes, Michigan!

Posted by: holygoat at December 06, 2012 08:55 PM (XnwWl)

71 So Boehner gives Obama everything he wants and gets nothing in return. And on top of that he allowed the MFM 3 weeks to demonize Republicans some more.

Hey fucknut, why didn't you just give Obama what he wanted the day after the election? It would have been a lot easier on everyone and you might have even received a pat on the back from the media for being bipartisan after the election.

I can't decide who I hate more these days, Boehner or Obama.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:56 PM (HDgX3)

72 I have an idea. I really creepy, yet maybe-it-will-work idea (like the Grinch). In Washington, the state just ok'ed recreational weed. So the feds are gonna go crazy - and the stoners will protest. We join 'em!!! Add to the numbers. This thing with RTW plays right into my plan, too. We add numbers (*not* necessarily sincerity) to every anti-Obama/Fed cause out there. Make him look impotent at his own game, with Dem issues!!!

Well, it couldn't hurt......

Posted by: Pentangle at December 06, 2012 08:57 PM (UUU4/)

73 Fiscal Cliff Deal Down to Wrangling Over Details

That article doesn't really live up to the headline.

In fact, it appears no different from the story as it's been the past year.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 06, 2012 08:57 PM (POfhd)

74 So again the GOP will cave, they will give the President and the Democrats tax increases immediately in exchange for future cuts that will never materialize or eventually cause a crisis that will lead to another grand-bargain!

I'm shocked, shocked to find clusterfuckiness going on here.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 08:58 PM (QupBk)

75 @62 General Woundwart- Know who else wants to cave to the Dems and raise taxes? True Conservative Rand Paul.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2012 08:58 PM (X9Mnx)

76 @67

I knew he would cave, but he has to know he's finished with this
deal, the GOP is finished.

What is he thinking? What in the hell is the GOP leadership thinking?

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 08:58 PM (0fxcV)

77 Why would anyone cite a MFM source given everything we know about the MFM?

Posted by: Adriane at December 06, 2012 08:58 PM (gh+mp)

78 "tea gaggers"

good to know lefties have gotten that much more clever in the past two years

Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 08:59 PM (60GaT)

79 Raising taxes by closing loopholes is better than raising tax rates.
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 08:55 PM (Tt6ky)

Getting ass-raped with a cucumber is better than getting ass-raped with a baseball bat.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 08:59 PM (ThczH)

80 So again the GOP will cave, they will give the President and the
Democrats tax increases immediately in exchange for future cuts that
will never materialize or eventually cause a crisis that will lead to
another grand-bargain!

I'M MAD AS HELL!!!!


Try Letitburninol* it may help.


*Side effects include. 20%+ Unemployment, hyperinflation in the currency, persistent hunger pangs from lack of food, roving mobs. civil anarchy, and a sudden affinity for tree bark soup. Those who think socialism is cool shouldn't use Letitburninol as this may cause an unsafe mental condition that leads to suicide.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 08:59 PM (0q2P7)

81 Email from rand Paul: Sign the No Tax Hikes petition

http://www.randpacusa.com/notaxhikes.aspx?pid=1206a

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 06, 2012 08:59 PM (piMMO)

82 If Oboehner is still Speaker in January I'm switching to I or even D.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:00 PM (85EaA)

83 Ironically, this has the possibility of putting the auto industry on more solid footing in the long term.

Posted by: holygoat at December 06, 2012 09:00 PM (XnwWl)

84 *Side effects include

and dry mouth.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:00 PM (QupBk)

85 >>>Why would anyone cite a MFM source given everything we know about the MFM?

Right I'll just contact the armies of conservative news reporters that...never mind they don't exist.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 09:00 PM (0q2P7)

86 Spread propaganda.

Move to a red State.

Go Galt.

Prepare.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:02 PM (ThczH)

87 Just wait until 2014.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 08:48 PM (HDgX3)



Unfortunately, I think that you are on to something. After participating in the reawakening of 2010, followed by the debacle of 2102, and what I perceive to be the 2012-2014 perpetual cave by Boehner, I am more politically dispirited than I have ever been in my life. If there is not a meaningful renaissance within the political conservative realm by 2014, I tend to believe that I will view my vote as meaningless and not worth the effort to cast. I doubt that I am alone in this!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:02 PM (Cnqmv)

88 Good lord, you bunch of crybabies. If you think you can do a better job, why don't you get out there and do it?

Effin' whiners.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:02 PM (Tt6ky)

89 84
Ironically, this has the possibility of putting the auto industry on more solid footing in the long term.


Posted by: holygoat at December 06, 2012 09:00 PM (XnwWl)

__________________-
Anyone who buys a UAW made car is a fucking idiot. And this goes for you F150 fans too.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:02 PM (HDgX3)

90 Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2012 08:58 PM (X9Mnx)

If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (ThczH)

91 And I thought I was cynical.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (Tt6ky)

92
Get out there and do what? Vote? Send money? GOTV? Volunteer?

Yeah that's so effective, even if your guy wins it means nothing.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (85EaA)

93 JohnJ's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:04 PM (QupBk)

94 What is he thinking? What in the hell is the GOP leadership thinking?


Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 08:58 PM (0fxcV)

__________________________
"Now I will get invited to all the cool cocktail parties. AWESOME!!"

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:04 PM (HDgX3)

95 Right I'll just contact the armies of conservative news reporters that...never mind they don't exist.

Try wire feeds, conservative bloggers, tweets from conservative politicians, Drudge Report ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 06, 2012 09:04 PM (gh+mp)

96 >If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (ThczH)


More bronzer

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:05 PM (8sCoq)

97 Hooray. A small island of hope in a deep dark sea of shit lately. I smell a recall coming

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at December 06, 2012 09:05 PM (2075p)

98 A double on the rocks.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:05 PM (QupBk)

99 93 Get out there and do what?

Run for office.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:05 PM (Tt6ky)

100 Good lord, you bunch of crybabies. If you think you can do a better job, why don't you get out there and do it?

Effin' whiners.
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:02 PM (Tt6ky)

Whatever.

We can do a better job by moving ourselves to places where our presence better helps the Conservative cause.

We are not obligated to like or accept what Boehner does just because he has that job and we don't.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:06 PM (ThczH)

101 Ace I hate you. You know why.

He ate all the pancakes and ran out before you got out of the shower?

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:06 PM (O6q63)

102 The worst part today on Rush: He's talking to Jim Demint, conservative savior, who promptly mentions how he and Harry the Weasel are good friends.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:06 PM (85EaA)

103 >>>What is he thinking? What in the hell is the GOP leadership thinking?

That they still have a chance at saving the US so they need to work out the best deal they can. Maybe it's denial, perhaps bargaining, it's tough to tell from this angle.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 09:06 PM (0q2P7)

104
If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (ThczH)

____
Gee I don't know. How about running a campaign to tell the imbeciles out there that $50B in new taxes does nothing to stop a $1.2 T deficit?
Or gee I dunno, actually articulate the case why we need spending cuts and not tax increases?Oh I dunno how about pass an extension of all current tax rates, announce this is your one and only offer to Obama and go home?What's that called again? Oh yeah...PLAYING POLITICS. No, Instead, he just has a good cry then gets down and sucks Obama's dick like he has for the past 2 years.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:06 PM (HDgX3)

105 Well, it couldn't hurt......

Posted by: Pentangle at December 06, 2012 08:57 PM (UUU4/)


I think you conservatives are all gonna be wanting some of that sweet choom after my total tax and spend plan is revealed.

Posted by: Barky Ochooma at December 06, 2012 09:07 PM (Cnqmv)

106 >Get out there and do what?

Run for office.


Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:05 PM (Tt6ky)


can't. I have more skeletons in my closet than I can count.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:07 PM (8sCoq)

107 Good gosh, you people are so stupid. I shall enlighten you. Big brain and all that.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II's Gristle-encased head at December 06, 2012 09:07 PM (NL15p)

108 93 Get out there and do what?

Run for office.
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:05 PM (Tt6ky)

Jeesus.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:08 PM (ThczH)

109 Boehner can "sell out" some, the question is how much, and look bad to the trucons, or "stand his ground" and get...what?

i guess i just don't see the endgame here

Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 09:08 PM (60GaT)

110 how dare they sack Peyton Manning?

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:08 PM (8sCoq)

111 So basically aside from maybe 20 house members and 5-10 senators, we really have nobody speaking for us. It really is over isn't it?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:08 PM (HDgX3)

112 Gee I don't know. How about running a campaign to tell the imbeciles out there that $50B in new taxes does nothing to stop a $1.2 T deficit?
Or gee I dunno, actually articulate the case why we need spending cuts and not tax increases?Oh I dunno how about pass an extension of all current tax rates, announce this is your one and only offer to Obama and go home?What's that called again? Oh yeah...PLAYING POLITICS. No, Instead, he just has a good cry then gets down and sucks Obama's dick like he has for the past 2 years.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:06 PM (HDgX3)

Thanks.

I want to hear from Hollowpoint.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:09 PM (ThczH)

113 Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:07 PM (8sCoq)

I can't even afford a closet for my skeletons!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:09 PM (Cnqmv)

114 Bob Michel was content to be in Congress for 38 years by going along, and never in the majority. I think that there are plenty on "our" side who would do the same.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:09 PM (QupBk)

115 Fuck it. As of today pot is legal in my state of Washington. I'm getting high for the next 20 years. Maybe by then some sanity will have come back.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:10 PM (HDgX3)

116

I'm assuming that Stephen Baldwin is not a conservative. So I think we are OK there.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 06, 2012 09:10 PM (1Y+hH)

117 "Now I will get invited to all the cool cocktail parties. AWESOME!!"
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:04 PM (HDgX3)
What's up with these damned cocktail parties?
I can't think of anything more tedious and boring. Maybe if they had magicians, fortune-tellers, and casino games, but these would get old too.

Posted by: nevada-ette at December 06, 2012 09:10 PM (tEe1I)

118 >>>Run for office.

Oh I get it. Funny when your car is a piece of junk, you don't say "you effing engineer a better one then" you just dump your piece of junk for a better one. In a modern society of specialization it is not a valid to say that no complaint about a product or service is valid unless the person making the complaint could in fact provide a better product or service of the same type. By your mode of thought Motor Trend and Consumer Reports should just wrap it up and go home because they can't make a car better than the ones they regularly lambast. That mode of thought is just asinine. Perfect for an ass.




Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 09:11 PM (0q2P7)

119 Closets are taxable under Obamacare if you keep skeletons in them!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:11 PM (Cnqmv)

120 Look for the union label ...

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at December 06, 2012 09:11 PM (p4U6S)

121 If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?


Start drinking for breakfast.

Posted by: no good deed at December 06, 2012 09:11 PM (mjR67)

122 It's one thing to believe, as I do, that the Army cannot win a particular battle. But it's quite another thing to sit back and moan and complain about everything the Army THAT IS FIGHTING FOR YOU is doing.

"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do." Ben Franklin

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:11 PM (Tt6ky)

123 Posted by: nevada-ette at December 06, 2012 09:10 PM (tEe1I)

_________

It's not the event itself. It's getting invited to the event that matters. These are politicians remember which means they are narcissists to the 15th degree.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 09:12 PM (HDgX3)

124 I am very happy about this.

Because here in Missouri, the right-to-work debate has been raging in the state legislature, and there have been just enough Republican assholes blocking it in order to prevent Missouri from becoming a right-to-work state.

If we here can see that even frickin' MICHIGAN can do it, there's no reason why we here in Missouri can't do it. Especially since the Republicans now have a 2/3rds majority in the legislature. Governor is a Democrat, but fuck 'em, override his veto.

Posted by: chemjeff at December 06, 2012 09:12 PM (d/5qf)

125 F this clown and his bull horn. Not to mention his stupid little helmet. Why isn't he working? Must be on break of something.

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at December 06, 2012 09:12 PM (p4U6S)

126
"What's up with these damned cocktail parties?
I can't think of anything more tedious and boring. Maybe if they had magicians, fortune-tellers, and casino games strippers"


FIFY.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 06, 2012 09:12 PM (4u2LN)

127 Posted by: Richard Aubrey at December 06, 2012 08:47 PM (z4bFV)

I love my (somewhat obscure) home state of Indiana. Always nice to hear some appreciation for it coming from our neighbor to the North.

One of my best friends, an old Army buddy, lives in Kodiak, Alaska. He's always sending me these photos of a majestic bald eagle roosting in the tree in his yard, or of a pod of whales swimming by in Kodiak Bay, or of the mighty Kodiak bear strolling by a clear running stream jumping with salmon.

In return, I send him the occasional picture of the cornfield behind the house in all its Midwestern glory. Fuck him and his scenic grandeur. I still love my home state.

Posted by: troyriser at December 06, 2012 09:12 PM (ptcFO)

128 If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?
Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (ThczH)

______

I think if you have a Boehner, you have to do something to take of it. Or at least that's what Ace says.

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 09:13 PM (DrC22)

129 "Funny when your car is a piece of junk, you don't say 'you effing
engineer a better one then' you just dump your piece of junk for a
better one."

You don't just sit around complaining about the engineers, as if you have some kind of entitlement to the car of your dreams and it's their fault for not building it for you.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:13 PM (Tt6ky)

130 >So basically aside from maybe 20 house members and 5-10 senators, we
really have nobody speaking for us. It really is over isn't it?


well I'm of the belief that politicians just don't give a shit. Most of them are pretty well-off and won't suffer the ongoing economic repercussions that us proles will. If they suffer a crushing defeat in some legislative fight, they still go out for cocktails and then back to their mansions on Foxhall Road in chauffeured limos and, you know, just another day at the office for these bastards.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:13 PM (8sCoq)

131 Boehner can "sell out" some, the question is how much, and look bad to the trucons, or "stand his ground" and get...what?

i guess i just don't see the endgame here
Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 09:08 PM (60GaT)

Ah, yes, the perfect RINO argument.

Get the best deal you can and do some good trades during the off-season.

The endgame is easy to see: radical upheaval of the current system.

What comes after that? Who the fuck knows?

If you can't act until you know exactly where you will end up after you act, then you are paralyzed and useless.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:13 PM (ThczH)

132 111 how dare they sack Peyton Manning?
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:08 PM (8sCoq)

_________

Peyton Manning's been fired?

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 09:14 PM (DrC22)

133 Posted by: nevada-ette at December 06, 2012 09:10 PM (tEe1I)

You missed the part about insider trading information being exchanged at cocktail parties (also known as off the books compensation). Boner does go for the free booze, but he scores a lot of good stock tips as well.

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:14 PM (Cnqmv)

134
Well, you hit it JohnJ, many of here no longer believe the repub establishment and the Speaker are fighting for us. In fact its quite apparent.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 06, 2012 09:14 PM (n/ubI)

135 Michigan?

Welcome , brothers, sisters, friends!

How is Senator Nugent?

Posted by: the Red State Alliance at December 06, 2012 09:14 PM (EZl54)

136 how dare they sack Peyton Manning

Tough times for the elderly in Obama's America.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:15 PM (QupBk)

137 It's one thing to believe, as I do, that the Army cannot win a particular battle. But it's quite another thing to sit back and moan and complain about everything the Army THAT IS FIGHTING FOR YOU is doing.

"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do." Ben Franklin
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:11 PM (Tt6ky)

Oh, that was a good one!

Fighting for us!

Hahahaha. Ha.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:15 PM (ThczH)

138 >
If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:03 PM (ThczH)



I'd say "Fuck- look at these shoes! They're like butter. They must cost more than my house payment."

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:15 PM (8sCoq)

139 >>>and complain about everything the Army THAT IS FIGHTING FOR YOU is doing.

Last I checked I fought for them too ASS, helped them keep their jobs. Cost me TIME AND MONEY. So yeah, I feel I get to bitch.

Also last I checked. They arean't a damned army. They are a bunch of well compensated politicians, with nice homes and a great retirement. Not a bunch of grunts sleeping on on the ground and facing bullet fire for fuck all pay.

So no. That whole statement is top to bottom dumb.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 09:16 PM (0q2P7)

140 Why isn't he working? Must be on break of something.

He's a union official. His working days are behind him.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:16 PM (O6q63)

141
Fighting for us!

Hahahaha. Ha.
======================
Somebody's fighting for us? Is it Bill O'Reilly?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:17 PM (85EaA)

142 You know who's not fighting for you, Mohawk? Liberals. They're fighting to own you.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:17 PM (Tt6ky)

143 Broncos playing well.

Posted by: Meremortal, time to slutdrop the GOPe at December 06, 2012 09:17 PM (1Y+hH)

144 Well, didn't Reagan say that "A rising political class lifts all sorts of scum?"


Wait, maybe I got that wrong!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:17 PM (Cnqmv)

145 I love my (somewhat obscure) home state of Indiana. Always nice to hear some appreciation for it coming from our neighbor to the North.
Posted by: troyriser at December 06, 2012 09:12 PM (ptcFO)

____

Many fine young men have come out of Indiana. And the finer they were, the faster they came out.

Posted by: Mike Royko at December 06, 2012 09:18 PM (DrC22)

146 ahhh RINO tag, i'm so proud

Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 09:18 PM (60GaT)

147 "Also last I checked. They arean't a damned army. They are a bunch of
well compensated politicians, with nice homes and a great retirement.
Not a bunch of grunts sleeping on on the ground and facing bullet fire
for fuck all pay."

Okay, that's a fair point.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:18 PM (Tt6ky)

148 It matters not because I won.

Posted by: King Pyrrhus at December 06, 2012 09:18 PM (I88Jc)

149 This is what Crying Bohner could do he doesn't even need to fucking speak just hold up a god-damned sign with the following

Federal Budget: 3.7 Trillion Dollars
Federal Receipts: 2.4 Trillion Dollars

Deficit: 1.3 Trillion Dollars

Requested new spending: 50 billion
Requested new taxes: 1.6 Trillion over 10 years (1.6T/10) = 160 Billion

3.7 - 2.4 + 0.05 - 0.16 = 1.2 Trillion Dollar deficit

WE WILL GAIN NOTHING FROM THIS, NOTHING!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 09:19 PM (0fxcV)

150 149 It matters not because I won.
Posted by: King Pyrrhus at December 06, 2012 09:18 PM (I88Jc)

___

I think, ergo I am.

Posted by: The Thinker at December 06, 2012 09:19 PM (DrC22)

151 Hey YOU! Yeah you, sitting slack-jawed in front of your computer screen. I need YOU to run for office? What, you can't afford to take time off from work? Fuck you, file the papers. Not a natural politician? Fuck you, file the papers. You live in an area controlled by a political machine? Fuck you, file the papers! File them! NOW!

Posted by: JohnJ is MAD AS HELL at December 06, 2012 09:20 PM (NL15p)

152 You know who's not fighting for you, Mohawk? Liberals. They're fighting to own you.
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:17 PM (Tt6ky)

Yeah, and the GOP is fighting for a comfortable collar and a coffee break between whippings.

Guess what? The GOP dance where they shake their hairy tits in out faces and tell us they are the only ones keeping the wolves at bay no longer works.

Except for folks like you.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:20 PM (ThczH)

153 i'd wonder what the ACU rating of the alleged RINO establishment House/Senate members are. aside from the usual suspects (e.g. Maine Sisters) i'd bet it's pretty solid

not that numbers tell you the whole story but still, this RINO/tru dichotomy seems increasingly dependent on non-substance to me

Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 09:21 PM (60GaT)

154 >>>You don't just sit around complaining about the engineers, as if you
have some kind of entitlement to the car of your dreams and it's their
fault for not building it for you.

Great I've got an idea. We just stay quiet and not let anyone know how we feel. And when they can't read our minds and give us what we want we bail on them and have them replaced without warning. You are full of so much......stuff intellectuals are made of.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 09:21 PM (0q2P7)

155 Many fine young men have come out of Indiana. And the finer they were, the faster they came out.
Posted by: Mike Royko at December 06, 2012 09:18 PM (DrC22)

Yeah, I was one of them when I was young, anxious to kick the cowshit off my shoes and never look back, but now, 30-odd years later, after the Army, after college, after a dozen relationships, a divorce and two kids and three cities, a convoluted journey all over the map, I somehow find myself living 14 miles from the small town where I grew up.

*Al Pacino voice* 'It keeps pulling me back in.'

Posted by: troyriser at December 06, 2012 09:22 PM (ptcFO)

156 OK, let's see what happens if Boehner doesn't agree with the tax increase on those earning over 250,000.

1. Endless attacks by the media on the GOP.
2. Blame for the coming recession.
3. Attacks on TV by the weak-minded on our side (there are a lot).
4. We end up going along with it anyway, or Obama does it by executive order, which is illegal but he would get away with.

I don't see any avenue to stop this. Since there is not, I say go ahead with it and deny Obama the talking point. Frame the argument as "This is what Obama wants, but we will be watching to see if it works."

That is my opinion. The alternative is to make a stand, and I don't think that will impress the electorate, given the media.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 06, 2012 09:22 PM (GoIUi)

157 After Walker allowed public employees to opt out of being in a union, the Wisconsin branch of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees lost 45 percent of its members in the first month

Coerce we much!

Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2012 09:23 PM (FcR7P)

158 152 Hey YOU! Yeah you, sitting slack-jawed in front of your computer screen.
Posted by: JohnJ is MAD AS HELL at December 06, 2012 09:20 PM (NL15p)

_________

Hey YOU! Out there in the cold,
Getting lonely, getting old, can you hear me?

Posted by: Doppelganger at December 06, 2012 09:23 PM (DrC22)

159 OMG we must be screwed worse than ever - whenever Hannity starts his show off with a preaching-to-the-choir speech, you know we're toast. Tonight's was a 10-minute "address".

Pretty sad. As if Boner and the House watch Hannity.

Bonus points, Sean: You said if we go over the cliff Barry will get partial blame. Nope. MFM will see to it that only the rethuglicans are at the end of the blame cannon. Obama was just looking out for us ;-)

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at December 06, 2012 09:23 PM (MmH0Z)

160 157 damn dirty wino

Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 09:24 PM (60GaT)

161 Say YES! to states setting up the Obamacare insurance exchanges. Why? Because I am a fucking idiot, that's why.

Posted by: Douglas Holtz-Eakin, some twat at NRO at December 06, 2012 09:24 PM (NL15p)

162 this RINO/tru dichotomy seems increasingly dependent on non-substance to me

We've had an annual deficit in excess of $1,000,000,000,000.00 for the two years that the Republican have held the house. They could have reduced it any time they wanted to. They did not.

If they think they are fighting for my children, they're delusional. If they think I think they are fighting for me, then they think I'm an idiot.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:24 PM (QupBk)

163 Guess what? The GOP dance where they shake their hairy tits in out faces and tell us they are the only ones keeping the wolves at bay no longer works.

That's a disturbing image.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:25 PM (O6q63)

164 Folks - I hate to let everyone in on our little secret, but Oklahoma is the place to be. Here's an update on what's been going on here recently:

Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election...
While everyone is focusing on Arizona ’s new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing.



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Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330. Guess what..........Oklahoma did it anyway.

more...........

Posted by: Not an Artist at December 06, 2012 09:25 PM (uRumV)

165 I think, ergo I am.

Posted by: The Thinker at December 06, 2012 09:19 PM (DrC22)


"I feel your pain, therefore you should vote for me (again)!"

Book of Clinton 12:2
King Obama's New Improved Version

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:26 PM (Cnqmv)

166 Many people in Michigan harbor resentment of the unions. I've presented this before.

When Japanese companies, such as Honda and Toyota started building factories in the U. S. Michigan had everything that should have drawn those factories.
Experienced factory workers, transportation systems, automotive engineers, automotive management, colleges geared toward automotive engineering, willing workers, including non-union workers crying for those manufacturing jobs.

Know why we didn't get any of those factories? Because the UAW mentality scared the shit out of the Japanese.
And that was fine with many in the UAW, some of them openly said that they only wanted unionized manufacturing jobs in Michigan.

These bastards have held Michigan hostage for years with the idea that if the Big 3 go down, the entire economy of Michigan will go down with them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 06, 2012 09:26 PM (Yqh1N)

167 Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake. Oklahoma did it anyway.

Posted by: Not an Artist at December 06, 2012 09:26 PM (uRumV)

168 So, a victory in MI and we turn it into BitchFest. Awesome.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 06, 2012 09:26 PM (GEICT)

169 >>>Posted by: Not an Artist at December 06

Everybody has to try it once. DON'T CUT AND PASTE FROM WORD!!!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 09:26 PM (0q2P7)

170 Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 09:21 PM (60GaT)

Whatever.

You know what would be really refreshing?

A politician who called another politician a stupid POS on live TV.

That is the kind of thing this country needs.

Our children will be thralls and our "leaders" lick ass like whores.

I want the system to collapse and I don't care if the collapse is a nightmare.

It is inevitable.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (ThczH)

171 Most people don't care about the nationalmoney, and won't until it runs out.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (85EaA)

172
That's a disturbing image.



Disturbing? That's a disgusting image, much like Moochelle's landing strip.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (4u2LN)

173 If you were in Boehner's shoes, what would you do?

He's in a no-win situation. ANY deal he makes with the Dems will be characterized as caving.

Don't make a deal, and he gets blamed for the ensuing sequestration.

Any deal is going to have to include some form of tax increase. There's no way around that if there's going to be a deal.

I'd first put up a bill in the House with the $800 billion in tax rate increases on the rich and only modest spending cuts. It wouldn't pass. Use this to argue that his hands are tied, Obama will have to give up more cuts and/or smaller tax increases.

Then I'd put forth another bill with more significant cuts, and some modest tax increases in the form of closing "loopholes". See that it barely passes. Reid wouldn't let it come to a vote.

All the while, sell it as the GOP giving in on tax hikes on the wealthy, with modest cuts. Don't mention rates vs loopholes. Name some less popular programs as examples of what is getting cuts.

Once sequestration hits (and it will), plead that we did all we could, gave Obama exactly what he campaigned on, but the Dem Senate wouldn't even vote on it.

Then take the blame anyways.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (X9Mnx)

174 164 That's a disturbing image.
Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:25 PM (O6q63)

____

What's disturbing is someone called Mad as Hell eating at Red Lobster.

Posted by: What's Disturbing at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (DrC22)

175 Recently Oklahoma passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102. Guess what...........Oklahoma did it anyway.

Posted by: Not an Artist at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (uRumV)

176 @157

No just no!!

Boehner made this fiscal cliff deal because he didn't want to fight over debt ceiling.

So he's made a shitty deal so he didn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight only to make a shitty deal so he doesn't have to fight......

.....until TOTAL FUCKING COLLAPSE!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (0fxcV)

177 Several weeks ago, Oklahoma passed a law, declaring the state a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

Posted by: Not an Artist at December 06, 2012 09:29 PM (uRumV)

178 Turd alert.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 06, 2012 09:29 PM (4u2LN)

179 >>>160 OMG we must be screwed worse than ever - whenever Hannity starts his show off with a preaching-to-the-choir speech, you know we're toast. Tonight's was a 10-minute "address".

Did he go 10 minutes without saying Obamamania Media?

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at December 06, 2012 09:29 PM (sGU4F)

180 I don't think Alabama will be a leader in the States Rights movement, bad memories there, but she will follow if others lead.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:30 PM (QupBk)

181
When traveling, my wife and I like to get off the expressways and take some back roads. Indiana's small towns and rural areas and homes are pretty much uniformly prosperous and graceful. Downstate IL is somewhat starker.
Love that fat, blacksoil farm country. Nice folks. Got some friends in Noblesville who, having arrived there about twenty years ago, wouldn't live anywhere else.
And to put the peanuts and whipped cream on the hot fudge, Indiana is showing Michigan how it's done. If it weren't for the water out my front door, I'd think about moving.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at December 06, 2012 09:30 PM (z4bFV)

182 Just this month, the Oklahoma passed a law that ALL drivers’ license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.

Posted by: Not an Artist at December 06, 2012 09:30 PM (uRumV)

183 "And it's not hard to get to Michigan from Indiana."

Lots of Illinois businesses moving to Indiana, too.

Posted by: Pope Pol Pot at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (OqWMe)

184
What's disturbing is someone called Mad as Hell eating at Red Lobster.

Posted by: What's Disturbing at December 06, 2012 09:27 PM (DrC22)


It will be a looong time before I eat at a Red Lobster again!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (Cnqmv)

185
If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.



Sounds like an outbreak of common sense.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (4u2LN)

186 There are two types of cocktail parties in DC.

The first involve drinks and a kind of minor celebrity that comes from fawning media wannabes and lobbyists.

The second involve attractive staffers and hotel rooms.

Republicans aren't willing to give up either of type.

Posted by: Alex at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (HwgHt)

187 Okay, okay. It's easy to get frustrated listening to people complain who don't even seem to be trying to help. But this is the interwebs, so vent to your hearts' content.

Just don't go thinking that it's a substitute for action.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (Tt6ky)

188 I think that shredded tinfoil Christmas tree in the NY Gov's mansion that got shown here last night was pretty disturbing ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (gh+mp)

189 There are more offices to run for than those in Washington. There are more positions in the Republican party than national candidate. Dupage County in Illinois was a shining light of conservatism for many, many years. In large part because of men like my dad - he was just a lowly precinct committeeman. It doesn't take that much time (except right around elections), but you put a bunch of them together and they can do a lot. He did that for years, and Dupage County was *the* preferred place to live for anyone who was conservative in the Chicago metro area.

Posted by: Pentangle at December 06, 2012 09:32 PM (UUU4/)

190 Michigan voters are also fed up with teachers demanding that the taxpayers keep funding their overly generous benefits.

Back when there were teacher strikes in Michigan, many manufacturing union members resented the fact that when teachers struck, they didn't lose ANY of their pay. If a factory worker strikes for 2 months, that part of his salary, except for minimal strike pay from the union, is GONE. He never gets it back. Teachers, because they have the summer when they don't normally work, can strike, then make the days up during the generous vacation time. They end up getting their entire year's salary, and lose nothing in the strike.

This used to really piss off wives of factory workers, who had to deal with their kids not being in school, while the teachers did not make the kind of financial sacrifices that factory workers make during a strike.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 06, 2012 09:32 PM (Yqh1N)

191 We gratefully accept your worship.

Posted by: Gay Kenyan Commie at December 06, 2012 09:32 PM (NL15p)

192 180 Turd alert.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 06, 2012 09:29 PM (4u2LN)

_____

Very moving.

Posted by: Stuck Up at December 06, 2012 09:32 PM (DrC22)

193 Just don't go thinking that it's a substitute for action.

We multitask. For instance, even as I comment here, I'm also substituting watching football for action.

I'm a Renaissance Man of inaction.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:33 PM (QupBk)

194 Disturbing? That's a disgusting image, much like Moochelle's landing strip.

Can it be both?

And for the record, I think lobster is disgusting.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:34 PM (O6q63)

195 "GOP controls MI because in 2010 they won big. They did this because
blacks didn't show up to vote. They did show up in 2012 to vote for The
WON. Looks like any victories we might get will be done via mid-term
elections."

As has been noted.

And hey, guess what?

2014 is a mid-term election.

It's a mid-term election in which the Democrats have to play defense in the Senate.

Less than two years to Election Day. Get busy.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 06, 2012 09:34 PM (ymG7s)

196 169 So, a victory in MI and we turn it into BitchFest. Awesome.Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 06, 2012 09:26 PM (GEICT)

We were waiting for you to get here and distract us with your hairy tits.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 06, 2012 09:34 PM (RqkrF)

197 passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and
ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green
card and become an American citizen. They all scattered.


Green Card == On Radar == IRS knows about you

This is the Democrat myth. These people don't want to be on the radar . The ones from central America fear the government, and don't trust the police or banks.

Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:35 PM (NT4Sd)

198 195 Just don't go thinking that it's a substitute for action.

We multitask. For instance, even as I comment here, I'm also substituting watching football for action.

I'm a Renaissance Man of inaction.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:33 PM (QupBk)




I believe AtC coined the term "multishirking"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 06, 2012 09:36 PM (GEICT)

199 Just don't go thinking that it's a substitute for action.
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (Tt6ky)

Here are two concrete things to do.

Spread propaganda.

Move to a red State.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:36 PM (ThczH)

200
We were waiting for you to get here and distract us with your hairy tits.


Leave Rosie O'Donnell out of this.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 06, 2012 09:36 PM (4u2LN)

201 eman

Hey, I'm moving to Chile.

To each his own.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:36 PM (Tt6ky)

202 The alternative is to make a stand, and I don't think that will impress the electorate, given the media.
Posted by: Miss Marple at December 06, 2012 09:22 PM (GoIUi)

Since economic disaster is inevitable at this point and Republicans are going to take the blame no matter what they do, why not take a stand? Stop playing go along and get along. Call out the President and his supporters as the Marxist socialist weasels they are and fight them at every turn, on every issue. No more reaching across the aisle. No more talk of bipartisanship. No more compromise. No more nice.

Posted by: troyriser at December 06, 2012 09:37 PM (ptcFO)

203 198 169 We were waiting for you to get here and distract us with your hairy tits.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 06, 2012 09:34 PM (RqkrF)

++++

They look nice on a Wookie.

Posted by: Barry at December 06, 2012 09:37 PM (DrC22)

204 The ones from central America fear the government, and don't trust the police or banks.


Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:35 PM (NT4Sd)


They aren't the only ones!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:37 PM (Cnqmv)

205 TD Oakland

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:37 PM (QupBk)

206 TD OAK

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 06, 2012 09:37 PM (8sCoq)

207 The ones from central America fear the government, and don't trust the police or banks.


Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:35 PM (NT4Sd)
So, they are a lot like me, then.

Posted by: tubal at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (BoE3Z)

208 I believe AtC coined the term "multishirking"

She only brought it to your attention.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (O6q63)

209 As bad as things are now, and as bad as things will get for the next four years, they will get even worse when Obama becomes Secretary General in 2016.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (Tt6ky)

210 They look nice on a Wookie

Yeeeeeeaaaarrrrrgggghhhhhhhh

Posted by: Michele Obama at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (RqkrF)

211 Chile? They hiring?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (85EaA)

212 Okay, okay. It's easy to get frustrated listening to people complain who
don't even seem to be trying to help. But this is the interwebs, so
vent to your hearts' content.


Just don't go thinking that it's a substitute for action.


So tell me, what is 'action?'

The grand bargain in August 2011 which 'assured our electoral victory in 2012?'

John Boehner's broken "Pledge to America" to cut a paltry 100 billion from the 2010 budget (he increased the budget by 3 billion that year).

John Boehner's decision to go golfing with Obama the Sunday after he overran the War Powers Act in Libya?

John Boehner's recent decision to oust congressmen who voted against his stupid moderate bills from committees?

John Boehner has a history of poor negotiation, quisling fear, and hostility to conservatives. It is delusional to pretend that he will behave differently than it has.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (uhAkr)

213 eman

Hey, I'm moving to Chile.

To each his own.
Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:36 PM (Tt6ky)

Chile, Texas?

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (ThczH)

214 Call out the President and his supporters as the
Marxist socialist weasels they are and fight them at every turn, on
every issue. No more reaching across the aisle. No more talk of
bipartisanship. No more compromise. No more nice.

Posted by: troyriser at December 06, 2012 09:37 PM (ptcFO)

I guess the dream still lives!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:38 PM (Cnqmv)

215 Can somebody help me oil up my hairy tits?

Do a good job and I'll let you comb my back.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:39 PM (O6q63)

216 178... yawn.

Posted by: predictable at December 06, 2012 09:40 PM (8YWGG)

217 There are games where the big screen HD is simply astonishing. I don't know what the difference with other games is, but tonights game is one of the good ones.

As Mrs928 has noted, you can see it sharper than in real life.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:40 PM (QupBk)

218 Do a good job and I'll let you comb my back.

I just threw up a little in my mouth

Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 06, 2012 09:40 PM (RqkrF)

219 Posted by: Romney Defeats Obama at December 06, 2012 09:39 PM (KdyqO)

Your paste is getting cold.

Posted by: eman at December 06, 2012 09:40 PM (ThczH)

220 Does Jon Corzine still fuck monkeys?

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 09:41 PM (O6q63)

221 Democratic House floor leader Kate Segal, D-Battle Creek

Peg Bundy is in politics now?

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2012 09:41 PM (sdi6R)

222 Action is the opposite of inaction. If you really believe, as I do, that things are about to get really, really, end-of-the-world, Book-of-Revelation kind of bad, then you don't just sit around waiting for it.

"[Y]ou may not be able to control your circumstances, but you can control your reaction to your circumstances." Condoleezza Rice

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:42 PM (Tt6ky)

223 217...enjoy your coming fail...retard.

Posted by: predictable at December 06, 2012 09:42 PM (8YWGG)

224 Is Harry Reid a pederast or pedophile...which one is which?

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 06, 2012 09:42 PM (85EaA)

225 @179
Not an Artist at December 06, 2012 09:29 PM (uRumV)
link, plz?

Posted by: T.Hunter - L.i.B. at December 06, 2012 09:42 PM (EZl54)

226 #204 Since economic disaster is inevitable at this point and Republicans are
going to take the blame no matter what they do, why not take a stand?
Stop playing go along and get along. Call out the President and his
supporters as the Marxist socialist weasels they are and fight them at
every turn, on every issue. No more reaching across the aisle. No more
talk of bipartisanship. No more compromise. No more nice.

----------------------------

I would really like the GOP to start speaking plain truth. NO, Obama is not a misguided nice guy. NO, he doesn't want to save the economy. NO, he isn't an ally of Israel. Etc.

However, I am dubious that they could find enough guys to go on TV and say stuff like this. So the refusal to pass the tax hike would be demonized and vanish like a candle in the wind. And Obama would probably do it with an EO because emergency or something.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 06, 2012 09:43 PM (GoIUi)

227 Red Lobster is "evil". Its one of the Darden chains. Darden is on the left's shit list for reducing employee hours.

I did some quick contract telecom work at a few Darden sites earlier this year to facilitate some T1 changes. I was there before they opened for the day. Cleanliness wasn't exemplary, just average for restaurants, and I can state that the lobster tails are frozen, not fresh. I saw the reefer trucks being unloaded.

Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:43 PM (NT4Sd)

228 I say, Jeeves! Old auntie Whats-It insists I marry Ms. Bollocks-Shavwik? What ever shall I do?

Posted by: Betram Wilberforce Wooster at December 06, 2012 09:43 PM (I88Jc)

229 Yeah, those teachers unions. They practically
bankrupted the country with all their over-inflated investment values,
and their fraudulent business practices, and their duplicitous dealings,
and their insider trading and their - oh, shit. sorry. that was Wall
Street investment banks. Sorry - I got confused, I thought it was the
greedy teacher unions that caused global market corruption and collapse.
You guys are all over that, ain't ya.

Posted by: Romney Defeats Obama at December 06, 2012 09:39 PM (KdyqO)

Teachers are responsible for the shitty and overpriced education system in our country. Fortunately they aren't in control of our entire economy or we'd be absolutely fucked.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 06, 2012 09:43 PM (uhAkr)

230 Sorry - I got confused, I thought it was the greedy
teacher unions that caused global market corruption and collapse. Posted by: Romney Defeats Obama

Actually, it was a certain former Nazi collaborator-turned-billionaire hedge fund investor and primary backer of Obama.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:44 PM (Tt6ky)

231 If you really believe, as I do, that things are about to get really, really, end-of-the-world, Book-of-Revelation kind of bad, then you don't just sit around waiting for it.

Now that's a different thing. I thought you were arguing that things could be saved by politics.

At least in my case, wood is being stockpiled against the winter.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 09:44 PM (QupBk)

232 Pederast- "relationship between a young man and a pubescent boy outside his immediate family"

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 06, 2012 09:44 PM (uis79)

233 231 I say, Jeeves! Old auntie Whats-It insists I marry Ms. Bollocks-Shavwik? What ever shall I do?
Posted by: Betram Wilberforce Wooster at December 06, 2012 09:43 PM (I88Jc)

_____

Hey! I went to Wooster.

Posted by: Wooster Grad at December 06, 2012 09:44 PM (DrC22)

234
"Email from rand Paul: Sign the No Tax Hikes petition"

But I WANT tax hikes.

I don't just want tax hikes. No. I want serious tax hikes. Deadly serious ones. I want huge, crushing, bent over in blurred-eyesight agony after having been slugged in the nuts by a 350lb outlaw biker tax hikes.

And I want them right away. Like, next week.

I just don't want for them to be permanent. I want these huge tax hikes to have a "sunset" date built in, the way the original Bush tax cuts had a sunset date built in. I want them to be called the "Obama tax hikes" just as the Bush tax cuts were called the "Bush tax cuts". Let the Obama tax hikes expire after Obama leaves.

But before they expire, I want those tax hikes to do what massive tax hikes always do, which is bring in far less revenue than planned while murdering the economy and driving up unemployment. Ruining Obama's second term and cementing his place as the least economically competent President in our entire national history. In a way he won't be able to evade.

So, no, I won't be signing that petition. I'm going to be busy as a bee, planning my hunker-down, spend-less, earn-less, starve-the-beast strategy to wait out the tax winter.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 06, 2012 09:44 PM (ymG7s)

235 #217 Has Obama gotten Corzine indicted yet? Why not?

Don't talk to me abut greedy Wall Street, when they are mostly the Obama supporters and donors.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 06, 2012 09:45 PM (GoIUi)

236 198 We were waiting for you to get here and distract us with your hairy tits.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at December 06, 2012 09:34 PM (RqkrF)




Dinner and drinks first Bannion. I'm a Republican after all. They require cocktail parties for a sellout.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 06, 2012 09:45 PM (GEICT)

237 I thought it was the greedy teacher unions that caused global market corruption and collapse.

A lot of them got burned by Bernie Maddoff. Some IBEW locals had their retirement funds absolutely decimated by him...

...because they were greedy.

Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:45 PM (NT4Sd)

238 "Hey! I went to Wooster."

WPI?

Posted by: Bertram Wilberforce Wooster at December 06, 2012 09:45 PM (I88Jc)

239 OK, let's see what happens if Boehner doesn't agree with the tax increase on those earning over 250,000.

Option #1: Agree to the tax increases...starting in 2015. Spending cuts now. Let's use those 10-year estimates in our favor for once.

Option #2: Agree to an increase...for those earning more than $5 million. The super-rich vote Democrat.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 09:46 PM (T0NGe)

240 Let. It. Burn.

Boehner really must like golfing with Bammy, or else he'd just walk away. This really is a no-win situation for Congressional Republicans.

Cave to Obama, and you'll have higher taxes on the rich (+1 Democrats), no real spending cuts (+2 Democrats), endless praise from the MSM on how Obama made this happen (+3 Democrats), and deftly put mockery from the MSM on how bad the GOP handled this (+4 Democrats).

If you walk and let the fiscal cliff happen, yeah, you get higher taxes on the rich, and you'll get blamed from the MSM, but you do get spending cuts. And the middle class gets to feel the pain in the wallet from re-electing Obama.

But Boehner doesn't see it that way. All he sees is a nice walk spoiled with Obama at Army/Navy.


Posted by: Hoi Polloi Wingnutia at December 06, 2012 09:46 PM (OPWiP)

241 Didn't Obama brag at the DNC about giving Wall Street billions of dollars? Yes, I believe he did.

Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:46 PM (Tt6ky)

242 Just don't go thinking that it's a substitute for action.


Posted by: JohnJ at December 06, 2012 09:31 PM (Tt6ky)

-------------------------


That's funny. And sad. Funny and sad. But mostly funny.

Posted by: mama winger, passing through at December 06, 2012 09:47 PM (P6QsQ)

243 Wall Street backed Obama heavily in 2008.

Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:47 PM (NT4Sd)

244 ONT Up

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 09:48 PM (Cnqmv)

245 "Yeah, those teachers unions. They practically bankrupted the country with all their over-inflated investment values,"

No, they're bankrupting states. How long is California going to be able to fund this stuff?
Teachers need to grow up and live in the real world.
I don't know anyone, besides teachers and gubmint employees, who get to retire at 55 and receive free health care insurance.

And just so you know, I've taught in a Catholic School. It's not brain surgery. And the vacation time is lovely.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 06, 2012 09:51 PM (Yqh1N)

246 @217 P.O.S. tickturd


Walnut Valley Unified School District bankrupted by union pensions and salaries

Superintendent Dean Conklin said that the $22 million in expected funds from the state is what has set the district back financially, and now is the time for action.

Because 90 percent of the budget is personnel costs



shinebox, bitch.

Posted by: T.Hunter - L.i.B. at December 06, 2012 09:51 PM (EZl54)

247 How long is California going to be able to fund this stuff?

I wonder how many wooden nickles can be made from a redwood tree?

A renewable currency...I like that.

Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 09:54 PM (NT4Sd)

248 Due to a heavy influx of illegal Germans in Fredericksburg Texas, the city has installed STOP/HALT signs.

Not really.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 06, 2012 09:57 PM (BVkEs)

249 I think a whole blog could be built around these words, "Common sense is not mean."

Posted by: Ohio, what can I say, Dan at December 06, 2012 10:00 PM (JKNDp)

250 A brood of bros brood beneath bonny but buttery Ashley.

Whaaa?

Posted by: Mr. Epidermis at December 06, 2012 10:01 PM (I88Jc)

251 Posted by: Romney Defeats Obama at December 06, 2012 09:39 PM (KdyqO)


Ok, now you're on my turf. I am substitute teaching right now because my mother is ill and I like the variable schedule. I work in four districts in an almost totally white population with a nice tax base and 'good' schools. I ask the kids questions all the time. Here's what I learned (this is high school):
Stalin isn't a *real* murderer.
Many teachers are proud they don't read serious books.
The students can't read, and if they can they can't comprehend a damn thing.
Christianity has killed more people than any other ideology.
Global warming is more *true* than any religion because it's *science*.

And the list goes on ad nauseum (they don't know that that means either)
I tell everyone I can to homeschool.




Posted by: Pentangle at December 06, 2012 10:02 PM (UUU4/)

252 the moderator's point is sadly correct. We are going to achieve our most meaningful gains in the states. Enacting RTW in the home of American unionism really stands out as an achievement.

Posted by: Jack Lavelle at December 06, 2012 10:24 PM (nE0Im)

253 @251:"And the list goes on ad nauseum (they don't know that that means either)
I tell everyone I can to homeschool.

Posted by: Pentangle at December 06, 2012 10:02 PM (UUU4/)
--
This, this, this, this, THIS!!!

I'm in an education program forhigh school teaching, and it's absolutely astounding how ignorant and arrogant the teachers are. I mean, they're relatively bright individuals in terms of general skills and behavior. But get into anything remotely political and it's propaganda down the line. But they call it "critical thinking".

One thing in particular, they complain about things that kids learn "at home" and see it as their job to "correct" that information. I don't care if some kids come in with flat-earth-ism, if you cede control from parents to teachers, you will get the Leftist factories we have (e.g., kids being taught that Conservatives want to keep in place old policies, whereas Liberals are for Freedom and Opportunity; White people are inherently racist, even if they don't know it consciously; you are guilty of some -ism if you make a comment that can be interpreted as negative against a protected group (no, your intentions do NOT matter); the same non-race-specific insult/criticism is not as bad when leveled against a white/male than when leveled against a minority/female)

BTW, all those examples were from students in graduate-level classes, many already teaching, and some preparing to be principles with doctorates. It truly boggles the mind...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 06, 2012 10:33 PM (Y5I9o)

254 @251 Ad nauseam, damn it. Nausea is feminine. First declension.
Wasn't everybody around here just today talking about how they "spoke" Latin?

Now even I'm pissed off. Mad as hell, whatever.

Posted by: comatus at December 06, 2012 10:43 PM (qaVK+)

255 Hy- what ever happened to Stuck On Stupid? Or was the in Bobby's dream where JR got shot?

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of one at full price at December 06, 2012 10:58 PM (quLHy)

256 Were I cognisant of Latin, I might better know how to use ma werdz all understandible, so's dat mees allz peeps be knowing, an' shit.

Posted by: Mr. Epidermis at December 06, 2012 11:09 PM (I88Jc)

257 Y'all have a good time with America.

I'm taking my stuff and leaving. Got my plane ticket, getting out of here to somewhere else. International, Southeast Asia.

Posted by: Picasa Tucasa at December 06, 2012 11:15 PM (BiMzb)

258 "No justice, no peace!"

I was looking for that fat bastard Sharpton... anyone see him in the video?

BTW, after letting RTW sink in, the next step is to create a Green Zone around Detroit.

Posted by: PelosiNeedsMorePlasticSurgery at December 07, 2012 02:43 AM (uy+Yh)

259 Obama spends more money on the UAW than the United States does on the State Department.

Posted by: burt at December 07, 2012 06:54 AM (8kEad)

260
This is the Democrat myth. These people don't want to be on the radar . The ones from central America fear the government, and don't trust the police or banks.

I don't think this is true but if it was we should absolutely amnesty those ones and get their asses some ballots.

Posted by: entropy at December 07, 2012 09:51 AM (TULs6)

261
Nausea is feminine.

Sexist patriarchal oppresser!

Of course, nausea is feminine, but stomachs are male and vomiting is neuter. However the puddle of vomit is transgender because the puddle is female but the vomit itself is male.

It's really quite amazing continentals manage to procreate.

Posted by: entropy at December 07, 2012 10:04 AM (TULs6)

262 Oh, my jacket! His button has come undone, the poor girl.

Posted by: entropy at December 07, 2012 10:06 AM (TULs6)

263 #32 wrote: "but then again, given how inept Boehner is, who knows?

I think I know. That's why I'm ordering a case of Juntos Luxury Silicone Intimate Lubricant today.

Posted by: MoeRon at December 07, 2012 11:47 AM (yWDpP)






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