Now They Tell Us: Howard Dean Says Everyone Must Pay Higher Taxes to Pay For Obama's Mega-State

We didn't hear this, surprisingly enough, before the election. What we heard was the claim that Obama wanted to raise taxes on the "richest 1%" (now the richest 2%; the second richest 1%, sorry, here's a tissue to wipe up your mouth). He claimed he wanted to reduce taxes on the middle class, and even claimed Romney would raise taxes on the middle class.

Which, by the way, was the lie he won the election on. By charging Romney with this, he immunized himself from the truth -- that Barack Obama himself planned to raise taxes on the middle class.

Now that the liberals have won an election on a lie, they can start floating these trial balloons to see if the public is ready for them.

And the truth is that if week keep spending at this level, the rich, the middle class, and even some of the working poor are going to have to pay more in taxes.

The money isn't "free." It comes from somewhere. Unfortunately, we can't tax the Germans as the Greeks can, so we'll have to tax ourselves.

I have long believed that Obama's goal was to set up a crisis situation whereby Republicans are forced to call for his own goal of higher taxes on everyone in order to forestall an actual meltdown and the ensuing calamity.

I've seen nothing yet to convince me I was crazy to think that.

Votre Bouche

Excusez-moi, il y avait une erreur inévitable avec mon pénis.


By the way, people are questioning why I'd learn French.

They are extremely racist. So, they've got that going for them.

Posted by: Ace at 05:09 PM



Comments

1 first?

Posted by: The Regular Guy at December 06, 2012 05:10 PM (qHCyt)

2 With 10-15 posts an hour, eventually we'll all get to be first at least once.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 06, 2012 05:11 PM (TOk1P)

3 Burn, baby, burn!

Posted by: filbert at December 06, 2012 05:12 PM (NaNKB)

4 Ya mean democrats lie their asses off? Who knew?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2012 05:12 PM (79ueO)

5 2
With 10-15 posts an hour, eventually we'll all get to be first at least once.

Posted by: BurtTC



Yeah, but for only 15 minutes.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 06, 2012 05:12 PM (b+jI9)

6 Higher Taxes! ARGHHH!!!!!

Posted by: Howard Dean at December 06, 2012 05:12 PM (/YJYi)

7 don't worry, we'll get plenty of "innovative" liberal thinkpieces on how generally higher taxes are swell so long as you're taken care of

just look at Sweden! /every college lib's fave example

Posted by: JDP at December 06, 2012 05:13 PM (60GaT)

8 Même un porc aveugle peut trouver un gland.

Posted by: jakeman at December 06, 2012 05:14 PM (96M6e)

9 And we are now finding out just how much our economic data has been an outright fabrication the last year.

All of it.

Posted by: Hopeless at December 06, 2012 05:14 PM (dYizu)

10 Now that the liberals have won an election on a lie, they can start
floating these trial balloons to see if the public is ready for them.






You're assuming that most of the ignorami are even paying attention.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 06, 2012 05:14 PM (1Jaio)

11 There's always the pillaging option. Canada and Mexico are right next door.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 05:14 PM (QupBk)

12 If you're learning French, shouldn't you be surrendering to someone?

Posted by: dantesed at December 06, 2012 05:15 PM (WUGe0)

13 Its been patently clear for 4 years that when Barry says "middle class" what he means is "union member" Any non -union middle class people that voted for him are idiots. The MarxSpewMedia are not even an excuse anymore, they went so far it was obvious they were covering for TFG and the Dem party.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 06, 2012 05:15 PM (dkExz)

14 I didn't think the your mouth thing could get better. It did.


Bravo, ace, bravo.


O/T but jesus fuck I'm starving. The problem is that I'm afraid of actually eating anything that's not bland in case my stomach turns all traitor again.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Shipping Sheldon/Penny right to the end. at December 06, 2012 05:16 PM (VtjlW)

15 So, that civil war I mentioned previously.......no so unlikely now, eh?


not so......unthinkable?

Posted by: Larry in Laramie at December 06, 2012 05:16 PM (Dll6b)

16 Inévitable? Ou malheureux?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 05:16 PM (QupBk)

17 Here's all you need to know about taxes, you unwashed masses:

1. The federal government's annual deficit for FY '12 was $1.089 trillion. Rounding up, call it $1.09 trillion.

2. The total in income taxes collected by the federal government last year was $1.093 trillion. Rounding down, call it (coincidentally) $1.09 trillion.

3. In short, to close the budget deficit, we would have to FUCKING DOUBLE EVERYONE'S INCOME TAXES!!!!!!!

Q.E.D. Anytime anyone talks about closing the budget deficit by increasing the marginal tax rates on the "richest 1%" or "richest 2%" back to the Clinton Era tax rates, which amounts to about a 12% increase (from 35% to 39.6%), they are lying lying lying lying lying lying lying lying...

Posted by: The Regular Guy at December 06, 2012 05:16 PM (qHCyt)

18 "If the dilithium crystals don't rest for at least 12 hours, they'll build up too much heat and then we'll have to eject the warp core! Then we'll be dead in the water, Sir."

Posted by: Commander Montgomery Bernanke Scott, in the burning Printing Press Department at December 06, 2012 05:17 PM (yiIja)

19 >>>Même un porc aveugle peut trouver un gland.

My guess on this one was WAAAYYYY off.

Posted by: ace at December 06, 2012 05:17 PM (LCRYB)

20 Nice to know.

I'm sure the tiny bit of meat i use to make the edible better won't be missed.


much.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (nqBYe)

21 3. In short, to close the budget deficit, we would have to FUCKING DOUBLE EVERYONE'S INCOME TAXES!!!!!!!


You're lying. Norah O'Donnell told me so.

Posted by: Jordan at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (/YJYi)

22 higher taxes will make you lose weight


so there's that. ( you won't be able to afford as much food and you'll get lotsa exercise running from bill collectors )

Posted by: Larry in Laramie at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (Dll6b)

23 Heh..heh-hahaha! BWAHAHAHA!

A little reality for the reality based community. A lot more is coming....

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (0q2P7)

24 My guess on this one was WAAAYYYY off.

Un Gland was suggestive, no?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (QupBk)

25 fuck them. It might not be french but it is a universal comment.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (nqBYe)

26 Excusez-moi, il y avait une erreur inévitable avec mon pénis.




I've forgotten all my high school French, Ace. What is this about an inevitable penis?

Posted by: Retread at December 06, 2012 05:18 PM (zxitI)

27 Baissez mon cul, putain.

Posted by: Larry in Laramie at December 06, 2012 05:19 PM (Dll6b)

28 It's Howard Dean, so you know the rednecks with gun racks in their pickups are on board wth this.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 05:19 PM (4pSIn)

29 I have to give Vermont props. They elect rabid communists like Dean and Bernie Sanders. But at least the communists they elect don't hide their true intentions.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 05:19 PM (HDgX3)

30 beans edible.

shrug.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:19 PM (nqBYe)

31 Seems to me the entire purpose of the state so far has been to insulate the people from the consequences of their own stupidity and short sightedness. This is coming to an end.

Posted by: navybrat at December 06, 2012 05:20 PM (Ty7ja)

32 Well, Obama's dickhead father said that as long as the government was providing value for taxes paid, a tax rate of 100% was just fine.

So, clearly, the next wave of the Left's propaganda is going to be to define "value" so low that even the DMV clears the hurdle.

What's gotten clarified for me with this most recent election is that there are a ton of people who can be convinced that a shit sandwich is fucking filet mignon.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 06, 2012 05:20 PM (FFwP9)

33 alex, start with grilled cheese and chicken soup?

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:20 PM (nqBYe)

34


we would have to FUCKING DOUBLE EVERYONE'S INCOME TAXES!!!!!!!


Obamafo' lady sez:

That's OK! Even I know dat 2 times nothin is nothin!

Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 05:20 PM (UaxA0)

35 Swallow it down (what a jagged little pill)

It feels so good (swimming in your stomach)
. . .
You wait and see when the smoke clears
. . .
Wear it out (the way a three-year-old would do)

Melt it down (you're gonna have to eventually anyway)


http://youtu.be/GFW-WfuX2Dk

Nominee for new AoSHQ theme song.

Posted by: filbert at December 06, 2012 05:21 PM (NaNKB)

36 Who posted that thing about the rich and poor guy going to a bar yesterday and splitting a $100 tab? I'd like to copy and paste that.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 06, 2012 05:21 PM (t06LC)

37 Just pay a little more to help the poor. $30,000 per poor person per year in current welfare spending isn't enough. It is patriotic to pay a little more.

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 06, 2012 05:21 PM (LOCUC)

38 as i said arlier maybe they will just have your check sent to Them and re-imburse you what they Want you to live on.

and the people will say Yeah! look how wonderful the govt is, they sent me money!


Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:21 PM (nqBYe)

39 "They are extremely racist. So, they've got that going for them."


Plus they; like yourself, like to surrender.

Posted by: nip at December 06, 2012 05:22 PM (11Tdq)

40 I posted that. It is still there, Jolly Roger.

Posted by: navybrat at December 06, 2012 05:22 PM (Ty7ja)

41 Q.E.D. Anytime anyone talks about closing the budget
deficit by increasing the marginal tax rates on the "richest 1%" or
"richest 2%" back to the Clinton Era tax rates, which amounts to about a
12% increase (from 35% to 39.6%), they are lying lying lying lying
lying lying lying lying...

Posted by: The Regular Guy at December 06, 2012 05:16 PM (qHCyt)

__________________
This is why the GOP is dead. They could easily make this argument. It's simple math even a recent public school high school graduate could understand. Would work great in a 30 second ad as well. Instead, Boner and Co, get bogged in the weeds of closing tax deductions nobody understand.

Stupid party.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 05:22 PM (HDgX3)

42 He claimed he wanted to reduce taxes on the middle class, and even claimed Romney would raise taxes on the middle class.

Which, by the way, was the lie he won the election on.


Yep, they kept repeating it over and over and it was maddening watching the Romney camp fail to respond to it until a few days before the election when they made a half assed attempt to appeal to the middle class, but even then never flatly refuted the charge. That along with the advertising juggernaut that never appeared after the convention because surprise, turns out Romney was broke instead of rolling in cash like everyone had been led to believe.

Posted by: booger at December 06, 2012 05:22 PM (HI6wa)

43 I didn't think the your mouth thing could get better. It did.





Bravo, ace, bravo.





O/T but jesus fuck I'm starving.




Not off topic. Not off topic at all, AtC

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 05:23 PM (T0NGe)

44 Don't you have to suck a lot of dicks to get your mouth to form Fwench words properly?

Posted by: maddogg at December 06, 2012 05:23 PM (OlN4e)

45 what a bunch of lying turds the progressives are.

Hey look we Won!
that's what it's really about.
and their followers go nanananana .
Not knowing they will suffer , They think it's those 'others' that will.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:24 PM (nqBYe)

46 Who posted that thing about the rich and poor guy going to a bar yesterday and splitting a $100 tab? I'd like to copy and paste that.

No idea who, but it was the first comment on the thread.

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 05:24 PM (4pSIn)

47 Michigan's legislature just passed a right-to-work law.

Chris Christie vetoed a bill to establish an Obamacare insurance exchange.

There are some glimmers of hope in the states. Republican Governors and legislatures are not going to go down with the Good Ship Obama.

Posted by: rockmom at December 06, 2012 05:24 PM (aBlZ1)

48 Bark Soup. A Lifestyle.

coming soon for Amazon Kindle.

Free Download. $399.95 Fed/St/Lcl tx.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 06, 2012 05:24 PM (H1M3J)

49 >>In short, to close the budget deficit, we would have to FUCKING DOUBLE EVERYONE'S INCOME TAXES!!!!!!!

That, or get A LOT more people on the hamster wheel. Guess which would be better for the economy, productivity and the unemployment rate? Guess what the ones not currently on the wheel would prefer?

Posted by: angler at December 06, 2012 05:24 PM (SwjAj)

50 @40

Awesome, do you recall what thread that was on?

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (t06LC)

51 "O/T but jesus fuck I'm starving. The problem is that I'm afraid of actually eating anything that's not bland in case my stomach turns all traitor again.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Shipping Sheldon/Penny right to the end"

Veterinarians recommend starting with white rice for dogs that have been upchucking.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (C0pH1)

52 I can't wait for the tax rates in CA and NY to be over 50%. Pass the fucking popcorn watching those lib hell holes burn. Hers's a news flash to all libtards. you have to raise EVERYONE'S TAXES if you are going to be uncle sugar daddy nonstop. Guess what libs, you can own it. You voted for this POS.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (qnRAE)

53 That along with the advertising juggernaut that
never appeared after the convention because surprise, turns out Romney
was broke instead of rolling in cash like everyone had been led to
believe.


Posted by: booger at December 06, 2012 05:22 PM (HI6wa)

________________________I never quite got that either. We had all these stories about Romney pulling in $100M+ every month over the summer. And then September comes along and they don't have 2 cents to rub together? HUH?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (HDgX3)

54 laisser les corps frapper le plancher

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (QupBk)

55 By the way, people are questioning why I'd learn French.

They are extremely racist. So, they've got that going for them.


Really? well maybe I have misjudged our french Bros and sis.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (3Y7RV)

56 Aidez-moi!!!

Posted by: Le Squèakhole de Les États-Unìs at December 06, 2012 05:26 PM (APmL9)

57 What say you now, fReEsHiTaRmY!!11!1!!!!?


YEEEaarrrRRRRGGGHHHHHH...

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 06, 2012 05:26 PM (H1M3J)

58 I am contractually bound to mention that Inevitable Penis would be a great name for a band.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 06, 2012 05:26 PM (yiIja)

59 I am contractually bound to mention that Inevitable Penis would be a great name for a band.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 06, 2012 05:26 PM (yiIja)

Agreed, It's like rapey rape code.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 06, 2012 05:27 PM (3Y7RV)

60 Actually, most of the world is racist. Liberals and Europeans doubly so.

Generally, if you're not ideological, you're going to end up being tribal.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 05:27 PM (T0NGe)

61 it was the first comment on the thread

or maybe not

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 05:27 PM (4pSIn)

62 Backwards, why not 'just the tip'?

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:27 PM (nqBYe)

63 1 reason you want to learn French.....picking up French girls in Montreal is a lot easier if you can at least babble a couple of sentences. If you've been to Montreal you know what I'm talking about. If you haven't....do yourself a favor and go sometime.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (HDgX3)

64 @50

Found it on the Teacher's union one. Thanks.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (t06LC)

65 S'il vous plaît pardonnez la série d'événements malheureux qui peuvent ou peuvent ne pas avoir eu lieu dans votre bouche

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (QupBk)

66 Inevitable Penis? Is that from the Pat O'Brien voicemails?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (GEICT)

67 I guess they must have internet on the plane, either that or ace's vacation is not working out so well.


Bumped??

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (wR+pz)

68 OT,
On a previous thread Vic used the term "FSB".
"The largest percentage of people who voted for the JEF are the FSB. "

I can't figure out what it stands for. Any help?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (C0pH1)

69 oh wait,' just the tip' was so last month.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (nqBYe)

70 French porn is outstanding.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (3Y7RV)

71 What's "stuttering clusterfuck" in French?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (QGyiB)

72 Awesome, do you recall what thread that was on?>>

Here's a link to it on the net.

http://bobmnu.hubpages.com/hub/The_Dinner_Party_or_The_Income_Tax

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 06, 2012 05:28 PM (tf9Ne)

73
Now They Tell Us: Howard Dean Says Everyone Must Pay Higher Taxes to Pay For Obama's Mega-State



Shit, we're gonna have to rewrite that damned song.

Posted by: The Who at December 06, 2012 05:29 PM (4u2LN)

74 52 I can't wait for the tax rates in CA and NY to be over 50%. Pass the fucking popcorn watching those lib hell holes burn. Hers's a news flash to all libtards. you have to raise EVERYONE'S TAXES if you are going to be uncle sugar daddy nonstop. Guess what libs, you can own it. You voted for this POS.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 06, 2012 05:25 PM (qnRAE)

Hehe then they will move to where you live an fuck that up too.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 06, 2012 05:29 PM (UgWn4)

75 Eh fuck it. Just turn over all posessions and income and dole out to me what you think I deserve Generalisimo Clusterfuck and your merry FSA.

Posted by: RWC at December 06, 2012 05:30 PM (sqp6o)

76 44
Don't you have to suck a lot of dicks to get your mouth to form Fwench words properly?


Why, yes you do, why do you ask?

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 05:30 PM (wR+pz)

77 Howard Dean, va te faire foutre!

Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 06, 2012 05:31 PM (w7SXX)

78 I have long believed that Obama's goal was to set up a crisis situation whereby Republicans are forced to call for his own goal of higher taxes on everyone in order to forestall an actual meltdown and the ensuing calamity.



no joke

the spending free was "free" for the libs, and they will bank on it.

Posted by: beach & a kindle at December 06, 2012 05:31 PM (LpQbZ)

79 Just think now Obama is free to force through anything, who will stop him? Roberts?
executive orders by the reams we won't be able to keep up , just as we cannot now. but moar.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:31 PM (nqBYe)

80 FSB?

My guess? Fucking Stupid Bastards

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 05:31 PM (wR+pz)

81 What's "stuttering clusterfuck" in French?

Most everything

Posted by: fluffy at December 06, 2012 05:31 PM (4pSIn)

82 Hehe then they will move to where you live an fuck that up too.

---

Exactly. And the only French coming to my mind is....holy merde.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 06, 2012 05:32 PM (lTVJy)

83 By the way, people are questioning why I'd learn French.

They are extremely racist. So, they've got that going for them.

Posted by: Ace at 05:09 PM



LOL

I live with a french man, surrounded by french, and worked in france.

I am racist.

Posted by: beach & a kindle at December 06, 2012 05:32 PM (LpQbZ)

84 53,

Remember that red state post where erick Erickson explained how all the entrenched GOP consultants share office space and incorporation with each other?

Romney Kept paying huge sums of cash to former Bloomberg, Charlie Crist, Massachusets republican aides and staffers to consult.

Orca, for example, was tens of millions of consultant dollars, and it turned out it was outsourced to volunteers and Staples and Best Buy's geek squad.

Romney was always a big bank bailout crony capitalist type and he ran his campaign accordingly.

Posted by: Hopeless at December 06, 2012 05:33 PM (zLsg3)

85 If ace were to turn french similar to dissident frogman it wouldn't be so bad.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:33 PM (nqBYe)

86
They got the consultant's bill.

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at December 06, 2012 05:33 PM (BHM5V)

87 What's "stuttering clusterfuck" in French?

probably a raised eyebrow followed by a shrug.

Posted by: really, really pis'd off ette at December 06, 2012 05:34 PM (nqBYe)

88 FSB is free shit brigade.

Posted by: Hopeless at December 06, 2012 05:34 PM (zLsg3)

89 Two strokes of a greasy mustache or armpit hair.

Posted by: Amalgamated Cliff Divers, Local 157 at December 06, 2012 05:36 PM (BHM5V)

90 I am contractually bound to mention that Inevitable Penis would be a great name for a band.

Obligatory link to King Missile's classic, "Detachable Penis."

http://www. youtube .com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4

I woke up this morning with a bad hangover and my penis was missing again...

Posted by: jakeman at December 06, 2012 05:36 PM (96M6e)

91 What's "stuttering clusterfuck" in French?



Le Unione European

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 06, 2012 05:36 PM (GEICT)

92 For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

David R, PHD
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for a beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.



If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:



The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.00.
The sixth would pay $3.00.
The seventh would pay $7.00.
The eighth would pay $12.00
The ninth would pay $18.00.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.00.


So that’s what they decided to do. The men drank in the bar everyday
and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner
threw them a curve.
“Since you are all such good customers,” he
said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.00.
Drinks for the ten men now cost just $80.00.”



The
group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.




But what about the other six men, the paying customers? How could they
divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get their fair share?
They realized that $ 20.00 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth
man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner
suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly
the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should
pay.

And so:
The fifth man like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of 12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid 14 instead of 18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).


Each of the six was better off than before! And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10
back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!” “Wait a
minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything
at all. The system exploits the poor!”

The nine men then surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine
sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the
bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough
money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And
that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax
system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might
start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

Posted by: navybrat at December 06, 2012 05:36 PM (Ty7ja)

93 I can't help but think about Ken Burns' stupid (so stupid it Burns?) statement that people use the "N-word" all the time now, or so he's heard 2nd or 3rd-hand.

First, the implication that he even has 4 degrees of separation from an Obama opponent is laughable. He's firmly ensconced in Pauline Kael country.

Second, it indicates his deepest desires. You see, Ken Burns needs Obama to be the victim of vicious racists. If not, Ken would have to judge Obama on his record or character. Better to view him as a victim, at least then he can't be held accountable.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 06, 2012 05:38 PM (T0NGe)

94 I'm not getting why tax rates need to be raised at all.

Just keep devaluing the dollar, the invisible taxation from THAT gets paid. by everyone who buys anything.

it's already happening, duh!

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at December 06, 2012 05:38 PM (J6kXj)

95 Posted by: rockmom at December 06, 2012 05:24 PM (aBlZ1)
__
Here's the glimmer of hope in our state: Bruce Castor may primary Corbett in 2014.

Posted by: kallisto at December 06, 2012 05:38 PM (jm/9g)

96 "88 FSB is free shit brigade.
Posted by: Hopeless"
Thanks

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 06, 2012 05:39 PM (C0pH1)

97 "Fucking Stupid Bastards" also works, btw.

Posted by: filbert at December 06, 2012 05:40 PM (NaNKB)

98 A handy guide for you bastard francophiles. Myself included.

Alors, mec, tu débandes?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows pragmatism has pwned your asses at December 06, 2012 05:41 PM (Lxw+T)

99 beach and a kindle - my husband is french-canadian also!

omg his family.

is insane and impossible to deal with.

makes mine look comparatively sane!

French is lovely however. Italian is way, way WAY easier to learn and speak, just sayin. (I speak both)

also if you are going to watch films in French to help learn? go to the Canadian ones. they speak much much slower and more clearly.

Jesus of Montreal is one of my favorites, also it's Christmas-y.

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at December 06, 2012 05:41 PM (J6kXj)

100
Orca, for example, was tens of millions of
consultant dollars, and it turned out it was outsourced to volunteers
and Staples and Best Buy's geek squad.



Romney was always a big bank bailout crony capitalist type and he ran his campaign accordingly.

Posted by: Hopeless at December 06, 2012 05:33 PM (zLsg3)

______________I did a stint at a Big 6 (back when there were 6) firm IT consulting. It's amazing how fast the money gets flushed down the toilet. And the really fun part is, the more the consultants fuck up, the more they make fixing up the fuck ups. There are IT projects in the multi tens of millions that never go live because they are so poorly executed.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 06, 2012 05:42 PM (HDgX3)

101 I prefer FSA (Free Shit Army), because we're not just talking about a brigade, eh?

Posted by: jakeman at December 06, 2012 05:42 PM (96M6e)

102 Ça, votre fin chargée de suspense fiscale, c'est un petit godemichet.

De rien.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows pragmatism has pwned your asses at December 06, 2012 05:44 PM (Lxw+T)

103 Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at December 06, 2012 05:41 PM (J6kXj)
___
Me and cousins used to call the Quebecois who summered in Wildwood Crest "Canadian Bacon".

Because of their swimwear. (We were teenagers, what can I say?)

Posted by: kallisto at December 06, 2012 05:44 PM (jm/9g)

104 Ahh screw it I'm to depressed to comment.

Posted by: Iblis at December 06, 2012 05:51 PM (9221z)

105 Awesome, navybrat.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 06, 2012 05:59 PM (DuH+r)

106 Excusez-moi, mais mon pénis a menti à moi. Et je devine à votre bouche également.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 06, 2012 06:02 PM (kqqGm)

107 Naughty

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 06, 2012 06:03 PM (OTWsz)

108 O/T but jesus fuck I'm starving. The problem is that I'm afraid of actually eating anything that's not bland in case my stomach turns all traitor again.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Shipping Sheldon/Penny right to the end. at December 06, 2012 05:16 PM (VtjlW)

Alex, I have had it since last Sunday. Today is the first day I have been hungry. I had some Ritz crackers this afternoon.

Posted by: CarolT at December 06, 2012 06:14 PM (z4WKX)

109 Of course the French would claim : Est-il ennuis? Cherché les femmes!

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 06, 2012 06:22 PM (OTWsz)

110 Ahh. But here is the question.


Can they pay more in taxes? The economy is already bad and a lot of people are struggling. The economic indicators are abysmal, we are going into the double dip of the recession with or without tax increases. Lack of tax increases, or even tax cuts, won't stop it. But tax increases will exacerbate this and make the hit even harder.


There's also a question of will they pay it? Will you pay it? Are you gonna buck up and work us out of this 20 trillion dollar debt with 200 trillion in long term liabilities so FSA Obama voters don't lose premium cable channels?


Just because rates go up, doesn't mean revenue does. If revenue falls short, then the rates need to be even higher. But if the rates go even higher, the economy will suffer further and revenue will still fall lower. So can we even pay it if we were inclined to? And who's inclined to anyway?


At this point it almost doesn't make sense not to pillage the public treasury of everything you can get your hands on. Why not? Why cut budgets now? You know that simile about money, when they say spend it like it's going out of style?


It's not a simile.

Posted by: entropy at December 06, 2012 06:26 PM (YUttk)

111 Google translate sez Votre Bouche Excusez-moi, il y avait une erreur inévitable avec mon pénis.

translates to:
Your Mouth Excuse me, there was an inevitable error with my penis.

I don't get it. Your mouth excuse me?? What does that mean?

Posted by: Toby Flenderson at December 06, 2012 06:45 PM (NfzTx)

112 " If Obama wins re-election, I'm moving to France!"

Posted by: Reason #666 Why Ace Is Learning French at December 06, 2012 06:51 PM (DcKTG)






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