No Christmas in California: Management Company Orders Removal of All Christmas Decorations From Common Rooms at Senior Apartment Complex

And menorahs, too. We all have equal rights to be equally miserable.

Residents in a Newhall senior apartment complex are protesting an order from management to remove their beloved Christmas tree from the community room because, they were told, it's a religious symbol.

On Tuesday, Tarzana-based JB Partners Group Inc. sent a memo to staff at The Willows senior apartment building demanding they take down Christmas trees and menorahs in communal areas.

The company has owned The Willows for four years, but this is the first time it's given such a directive to staff.

On Wednesday, two dozen residents in the 75-resident complex gathered in the lobby to place a neon green sign that read: "Please Save Our Tree."

"We're all angry. We want that tree," said Fern Scheel, who has lived at the complex for nearly two years. "Where's our freedom? This is ridiculous."

Posted by: Ace at 12:15 PM



Comments

1 I heartell Christmas trees burn very fast.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:16 PM (bSsXM)

2 Christophobia

Posted by: Comrade J at December 06, 2012 12:17 PM (6kkPP)

3 Taking a Christmas tree away from seniors? Yeah, that'll play well.

Posted by: JohnTant at December 06, 2012 12:17 PM (tVWQB)

4 If it were deemed art, "Piss Christmas", they could keep it.

Posted by: t-bird at December 06, 2012 12:17 PM (FcR7P)

5 There must be some way to stop Christmas from coming!

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (F3nFt)

6 religion is so pas'se

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (nqBYe)

7 "The War on Christmas is a Phony Myth perpetuated by FoxNews and Bill O'Reilly!!!"

Posted by: All the Liberals at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (QXlbZ)

8 Tree needs more ceramic lions and pearlescent flocking.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (+lsX1)

9 6: like lets worship obama, he is so ghetto

Posted by: Alex the liberal bitch at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (uFY4s)

10 In Soviet California, tree decorates you!

Posted by: Jackoff Smirnov at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (27KAF)

11 Hahahahah!!!! Stupid wing nuts think there is a War on Christmas.......wait, what?

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 06, 2012 12:19 PM (q177U)

12 Maybe they can compromise and stand it on a prayer mat.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:19 PM (bSsXM)

13 No War on Christmas. Nope. None.

Posted by: NCKate at December 06, 2012 12:19 PM (V1oS8)

14 Burn the Tree

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 06, 2012 12:19 PM (q177U)

15 1. Coddle Islam
2. Destroy Judaism and Christianity
3. ???
4. Profit

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 06, 2012 12:19 PM (LOCUC)

16 LEARN TO SWIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ErpFBO7RI

Posted by: TOOL at December 06, 2012 12:19 PM (m3ndV)

17 The little old ladies need some M4's. who is willing to donate to a good cause

Posted by: Alex is going a little crazy at December 06, 2012 12:20 PM (uFY4s)

18 not fascists at all. eat your arugula little people. stop kvetching .and quit dreaming of donuts you're to old to eat sugary stuff.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:20 PM (nqBYe)

19 It's against my religion to take down a symbol of my faith....

Posted by: Mergatroyd at December 06, 2012 12:20 PM (O4Hm7)

20 10
In Soviet California, tree decorates you!


Posted by: Jackoff Smirnov at December 06, 2012 12:18 PM (27KAF)
What is this tree of which you speak

Posted by: Soviet Alex at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (uFY4s)

21 And by "profit," I mean "be tortured to death for crimes against morality."

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (LOCUC)

22 1. Ban Christmas
2. ??????
3. Mohammed

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (bSsXM)

23 so Perhps we should demand Christmas Trees out of the whitehouse?
hell i won't miss the mao ornaments

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (nqBYe)

24 21
And by "profit," I mean "be tortured to death for crimes against morality."


Posted by: ElKomandante at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (LOCUC)
THIS^^^^

Posted by: Former Soviet Alex at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (uFY4s)

25 Meh, I'm sure they all voted for Obama, and in general, the expansion of government over the years. It's hilarious how much big-guv types are bawling about the expected consequences of their actions.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (dZ756)

26 The whos in whoville shall have no trees!

Posted by: Grinch at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (UhXzR)

27 22
1. Ban Christmas
2. ??????
3. Mohammed


Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (bSsXM)
2. JIHAD AGAINST THE INFIDELS

Posted by: MUSLIM ALEX at December 06, 2012 12:22 PM (uFY4s)

28 Stiff the old folks. It's fun!

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:22 PM (DrC22)

29 23
so Perhps we should demand Christmas Trees out of the whitehouse?
hell i won't miss the mao ornaments


Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:21 PM (nqBYe)
The Obama's celebrate christmas? but he is a muslim by muslim law (father was a muslim.

Posted by: MUSLIM ALEX at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (uFY4s)

30 Why do militant atheists want to impose their religion on everyone?

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (tqAT4)

31 OMG a private company gives a directive about decorations!

This must be Obama's fault somehow.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (t1NLo)

32 Why do we care what happens to this country, it doesn't represent our values and it's unfriendly to us. I say to hell with it.

Posted by: rplat at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (ew94K)

33

1. Coddle Islam
2. Destroy Judaism and Christianity
3. ???
4. Prophet!!!!


FIFY

Posted by: fixerupper at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (nELVU)

34 Can we bankrupt these assholes?......in a giving spirit,of course.

Posted by: BignJames at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (HtUkt)

35 hell they don't need santa or g-d they have big Messiah to take care of them.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (nqBYe)

36 What do you mean "save the tree"? It will be perfectly safe in the dumpster.

Posted by: The Management at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (bSsXM)

37 28
Stiff the old folks. It's fun!

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:22 PM (DrC22)
IT SURE IS!!! We kill 100 to 300 thousand a year

Posted by: NICE (look it up with all caps) at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (uFY4s)

38 Those Whos are hard to frazzle, Max. But, we did our worst, and that's all that matters.

Posted by: Grinch at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (UhXzR)

39 Boycott this nursing home! And NBC!

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (t1NLo)

40 But obama has 54 "holiday" trees. When you have unlimited funds like the grifters in the WH have buy whatever you like.... Then off to Hawaii for 17 days...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (9+ccr)

41 So, is this age discrimination, if the JB properties in Oklahoma and elsewhere (not age limited) decorate with Christmas trees?

Posted by: EveR at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (pPOhx)

42 No tree for you!

Posted by: Tree Nazi at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (yn6XZ)

43 If you utter so much as one syllable, I'LL HUNT YOU DOWN AND GUT YOU LIKE A FISH!

Posted by: Grinch at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (UhXzR)

44 o I had not known it was a private business.
I guess they can find a new old folks home.
sounds like they' be better served .

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (nqBYe)

45 42
No tree for you!

Posted by: Tree Nazi at December 06, 2012 12:24 PM (yn6XZ)
Trees used for war effort

Posted by: NAZI ALEX at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (uFY4s)

46 Oh, the Who-manity.

Posted by: Grinch at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (UhXzR)

47 Wonder if JB Partners Group Inc. has a Department of Diversity & Inclusion. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (ha)!

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (DrC22)

48 I still want to know the end game here. What are those opposed to Christmas hoping to have happen? No more celebration of it by anyone in the US? I consider a senior facility to be like a private home so why does the management company want it gone? Do they have government funding at risk if they display religious objects?

I really hate our country now. It is depressing the hell out of me.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (RZ8pf)

49 Why do free enterprise corporations hate America and Jesus?

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (t1NLo)

50 Wait, on his vacation ace goes to nursing homes?


Something about this doesn't smell right.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (wR+pz)

51 Isn't it freedom of religion not freedom from religion?

For those who hate religion, old people, festive decorations, presents, singing, good food and desserts, what's your flipping problem?

Posted by: Lindsey Lohan at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (A98Xu)

52 Stupid sock.

Posted by: mare at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (A98Xu)

53
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (wR+pz)

old people need luvin too

Posted by: The Dude at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (tw6Ar)

54 Everybody seems too kerbabbled. Isn't this just a little superfluous?

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (UhXzR)

55 Woo hoo, yeah!!!
*fist pump*

Posted by: ACLU at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (DrWcr)

56 THIS is what the theocratic dictatorship the reactionary left fears so much looks like. Except that they're running it, so it's all cool.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (tqAT4)

57 Jeremiah 10 "Christmas" trees are secular.

Posted by: joe syn opsis at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (I+4FK)

58

...... and they ALWAYS skip the "nor prohibit the free exercise there of" part.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (nELVU)

59 Ironically, Jesus wasn't even born in December.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (dZ756)

60 53


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (wR+pz)

old people need luvin too


Posted by: The Dude at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (tw6Ar)
GET OUT OF MY HEEAADD!!!

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (uFY4s)

61 Something about this doesn't smell right.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:25 PM (wR+pz)

_____________

Yur not kidding

Posted by: Depends at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (DrC22)

62 Free exercise of religion? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (DrWcr)

63 58


...... and they ALWAYS skip the "nor prohibit the free exercise there of" part.


Posted by: fixerupper at December 06, 2012 12:26 PM (nELVU)
That they do

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (uFY4s)

64 Why do militant atheists want to impose their religion on everyone?
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 06, 2012 12:23 PM (tqAT4)


We don't have a religion!!! Religion demands groupthink and subjugation! Don't paint us with your religiosity, you horrible, hateful Christ followers! We're atheists!! WE’RE RIGHT AND YOU’RE WRONG AND EVERYONE HAS TO DO WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE RELIGION IS JUST ANOTHER WORD FOR SLAVERY! And if you don't agree than you can burn in the fiery coals of whatever counts as Hell to someone who doesn't believe in Hell!!!

Posted by: The United Brotherhood of Clueless Atheist Yobs at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (4df7R)

65 That was an accidental sock...
“Do not learn the ways of the nationsB)'>or be terrified by signsC)'> in the heavens,though the nations are terrified by them.3For the practices of the peoples are worthless;they cut a tree out of the forest,and a craftsmanD)'> shapes it with his chisel.E)'>4They adorn it with silverF)'> and gold;they fasten it with hammer and nailsso it will not totter.G)'>5Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field,their idols cannot speak;H)'>they must be carriedbecause they cannot walk.I)'>Do not fear them;they can do no harmJ)'>nor can they do any good.”K)'>

Posted by: gumchewer at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (I+4FK)

66
The little old ladies need some M4's. who is willing to donate to a good cause>>

To keep it tree related give them a SAW* to protect their tree.

* Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), M249 Light Machine Gun



Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (tf9Ne)

67 religious descrimination, I guess it doesn't apply here. it might if they wanted to hang a star and crescent?

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (nqBYe)

68 59
Ironically, Jesus wasn't even born in December.


Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (dZ756)
Evidence of this please

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (uFY4s)

69 Forgetaboutit Ace, its Clownifornia. I am so glad I left that shit hole. I don't feel sorry for them. They are permanent Dem voters.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (YdQQY)

70 Someone should sue the company for claiming the tree is a religious symbol. It isn't. There have been a number of Christian groups in the past that did not celebrate Christmas, claiming that it's a pagan holiday. We need contact info for these asshats. Would be nice to bombard them with some letters showing them the error of their ways.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (5HBd1)

71 They should put up a large penis so i can sit in it and squeal!

Hail Obama!

Posted by: Olaugh at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (YmPwQ)

72 If it was a Bambi mural, I bet they wouldn't be ordered to take it down.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (bSsXM)

73 Just call the tree "art."

Posted by: LIGuy at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (sJiMG)

74 The little old ladies need some M4's. who is willing to donate to a good cause>>

To keep it tree related give them a SAW* to protect their tree.

* Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), M249 Light Machine Gun









Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (tf9Ne)
They need something they could actually carry

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (uFY4s)

75 YOu guys realize this has nothing to do with freedom of religion, right?

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (t1NLo)

76 I'm Jewish and this war on Christmas sucks. I love Christmas.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (79ueO)

77 We're gonna crash!

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (UhXzR)

78 Only reason I can think of why the company wants to do this is because they get state/federal funds and because of that they have some ridiculous church/state separation clause that requires this.

Posted by: Gaff at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (uh3SH)

79 This is a business decision made by a private corporation. Thought you guys supported those all the time.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (t1NLo)

80 Evidence of this please


Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (uFY4s)

He was born during Roman tax time. That is the Spring and all biblical scholars that I know of agree with this.

Christamas is celebrated at Dec 25th because this was near the Winter solstice which was a pagan holiday and the Church wanted to stamp it out.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (YdQQY)

81 Where's your freedom?

NOWHERE GRANNY BECAUSE YOU KEEP VOTING FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK YOUR FREEDOMS ARE, THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR FREEDOMS ARE!

Want to bet she has been voting straight ticket Democrat her entire life?



YOU WANT YOUR CHRISTMAS TREE GRANNY? THEN VOTE REPUBLICAN!

Republicans won't take your Christmas tree!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (RrD4h)

82 so old folks and their relatives should ban christmas altogther?
perhap the govt of cali would hate missing the revenue that comes to them by celebrating holidays.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (nqBYe)

83 You wingnuts know that I like cock, yes?

Posted by: Olaugh at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (YmPwQ)

84 You can take my tree from my cold arthitic hands.

Posted by: Sad Granny at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (yn6XZ)

85 But on the bright sidethey will allow a tree to be put up on August 4th in honor of the birth of Jamie Foxx's Lord and Savior.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (zAfmA)

86 On their website, JB Property invites you to contact them at contact@jbproperty.net or to send an instant message using their web form:

http://www.jbproperty.net/contact.html

Enjoy

Posted by: turnaboutisfairplay at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (+5R2D)

87 80
Evidence of this please




Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:27 PM (uFY4s)

He was born during Roman tax time. That is the Spring and all biblical scholars that I know of agree with this.

Christamas
is celebrated at Dec 25th because this was near the Winter solstice
which was a pagan holiday and the Church wanted to stamp it out.


Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (YdQQY)
Thank you for finally explaining it, that makes since. Also where is that banhammer

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (uFY4s)

88 Let me guess: some of the residents receive Federal or state rent subsidies and thus the management company either was told or believes that it cannot allow any type of Christmas decorations. Can't be getting sued, now, can we?


Meanwhile, my apartment complex just put up a crapton (though not metric) of Christmas stuff, including a huge manager scene and the monthly newsletter says Merry Christmas.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Will spare the calming manatees at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (VtjlW)

89 76 I'm Jewish and this war on Christmas sucks. I love Christmas.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (79ueO)

_____

I'm Christian and this war on Jews sucks. I love Jews.

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (DrC22)

90 They should put up a large penis so i can sit in it and squeal! Hail Obama!
Posted by: Olaugh at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (YmPwQ)

Stop steawing my shtick!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (DrWcr)

91 Hey Olaf, go make me a sandwich. And instead of ham, why don't you go bore a pig to death.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (bSsXM)

92 Free enterprise sucks when I don't agree with it!

Posted by: Moray at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (t1NLo)

93 79
This is a business decision made by a private corporation. Thought you guys supported those all the time.


True dat. Wonder how much of the rent is paid by SS disability and Medicaid?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (wR+pz)

94 Only reason I can think of why the company wants to do this is because they get state/federal funds and because of that they have some ridiculous church/state separation clause that requires this.
Posted by: Gaff at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (uh3SH)


Or some atheist with their granny in the home saw the Christmas tree and complained.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (4df7R)

95 89
76 I'm Jewish and this war on Christmas sucks. I love Christmas.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (79ueO)



_____



I'm Christian and this war on Jews sucks. I love Jews.
There is a war on both in the Dar Al Islam

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (uFY4s)

96 33

1. Coddle Islam
2. Destroy Judaism and Christianity
3. ???
4. Prophet!!!!


FIFY

---

I'm sending you the invoice for my new monitor. The old one just shorted out after I spit my coffee on it.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (e0xKF)

97 Hate to agree with Olaf, but... Despite being an inconievable dick move by the management, it is their property. And the people who live there are free to stop paying them to live there, which I'd recommend.

Posted by: yinzer at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (/Mla1)

98 From Christmas Tree.com

Traditions:
Christmas Trees and Ornaments

The fir tree has a long association with Christianity, it
began in Germany almost 1,000 years ago when St Boniface, who
converted the German people to Christianity, was said to have
come across a group of pagans worshipping an oak tree. In anger,
St Boniface is said to have cut down the oak tree and to his
amazement a young fir tree sprung up from the roots of the oak
tree. St Boniface took this as a sign of the Christian faith.
But it was not until the 16th century that fir trees were brought
indoors at Christmas time.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (YdQQY)

99 93
79

This is a business decision made by a private corporation. Thought you guys supported those all the time.


True dat. Wonder how much of the rent is paid by SS disability and Medicaid?


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (wR+pz)
all of it

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (uFY4s)

100

OT:

DEMINT COMING UP ON RUSH (or so he announced)



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (XkWWK)

101 Not knowing and/or loving thy God.

Not loving thy neighbor as thyself.

These are the things that make Christ weep.

Christmas trees in common areas at nursing homes?

Not so much.

Posted by: Killah Beeb's Chaperone at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (OL96w)

102 Yeah, I agree with Olaf too.

Posted by: Moray at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (t1NLo)

103 Why?

Posted by: Truman North at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (OxuaO)

104
Olaf...

Reading is fundamental.

Form the first paragraph of the article.

"Residents in a Newhall senior
apartment complex are protesting an order from management to remove
their beloved Christmas tree from the community room because, they were
told, it's a religious symbol."

Posted by: fixerupper at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (nELVU)

105 He was born during Roman tax time. That is the Spring and all biblical scholars that I know of agree with this.

Christamas is celebrated at Dec 25th because this was near the Winter solstice which was a pagan holiday and the Church wanted to stamp it out.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (YdQQY)

--Also, shepherds in that part of the world are usually not grazing their flocks in December; it's too damn cold.

Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (gBuIk)

106 In Soviet California, Depends wear you!

Posted by: Jackoff Smirnov at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (27KAF)

107 Some day we will speak of the Obama Tree.

Posted by: Jamie Foxx at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (DrC22)

108 BTW, folks, the 1st Amendment does not apply to private actors.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (dZ756)

109 Don't feed the trolls, folks. Let him rot under his bridge.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (4df7R)

110 They all voted for Obama, I'm glad they are fucking miserable. Fuck em.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (UgWn4)

111 I love Jews.

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:31 PM (uFY4s)

What's your number?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (GsoHv)

112 Vote Republican, we don't steal your stuff

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (uFY4s)

113 amazing how this pc protection of people's feelings is almost the exact same thing as if we had been taken over by commies or the people who's feelings we're trying to protect.

what's the moral case for this stuff again? "Let in different people so that we can use them to change your way of life." yeah, not the sales pitch we were given.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (QxSug)

114 anyway i'd think the folks at the home would let their feet do the talking for them,

while the business is a private business and can make this decision i guess, They could also choose to take a walk.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (nqBYe)

115 I agree it's a dick move by management. Still, it's their business to do with as they please as long as they aren't breaking laws or hurting people.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (t1NLo)

116 then again, fuck you obamlics. Where is your god now?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (QxSug)

117 Well, pucker up and kiss it, Whoville.

Posted by: grinch at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (UhXzR)

118 Actually Olaf, I tend to agree with.

And I assume you agree that private Catholic institutions should not be forced to provide birth control orabortifacients to their employees, correct?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (NF2Bf)

119 These samedried up old fucks march down and vote for all the fucking socialists on the ballot. Fuck them.

Posted by: maddogg at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (OlN4e)

120 Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (t1NLo)

Posted by: Moray at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (t1NLo)

Posted by: blue star at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (rmdRH)

121 No doubt there will be Ramadan iconography tho. This madness starts in the schools then leaks out into real life. Man the life boats people - this nation is going down.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (1gq4y)

122 115
I agree it's a dick move by management. Still, it's their business to do
with as they please as long as they aren't breaking laws or hurting
people.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (t1NLo)
Umm, they are hurting people by your liberal definition (psychological)

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (uFY4s)

123 So much for the obamacare promise, if you like your Christmas tree in your nursing home, you can keep your Christmas tree in your nusing home.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (QxSug)

124 Who cares what kind of symbol it is? The owners/management don't want it there. It's their business.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (t1NLo)

125 Anyone up for an over/under before Christmas as a national holiday is abolished? I'm surprised it hasn't come to that yet. Must be a strategic decision.

We'll see the name changed to "Holiday Day" first I guess.

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (LOCUC)

126 Oy: Ace is headed deeper into the tank of beDrudgery and Foxocology.

Appreciate, these oldies are being done (what they claim to be) dirty by a PRIVATE CORPORATION. Gummit got nuttin' to do wid it.

So, it beHOOVES Ace (already diving deeper into his 'have a COW' period) to justify midwifing this abomination.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (21TJo)

127 Christamas is celebrated at Dec 25th because this was near the Winter solstice which was a pagan holiday and the Church wanted to stamp it out.
Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (YdQQY)
Except that apparently the December 25 celebration dates prior to AD 200, when Christians were a persecuted minority and trying to differentiate themselves from paganism, no coopt its symbolism, IIRC. It also predates the widespread worship of Sol Invictus, the pagan cult that supposedly it was trying to replace (given that pretty much every other date was sacred to some pagan god, it would be hard to have picked one that wasn't close to a pagan festival, so proximity isn't necessarily significant...)

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (ZaB5l)

128 WTF does this have to do with Obama?

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (t1NLo)

129 I'm Christian and this war on Jews sucks. I love Jews.

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:30 PM (DrC22)
Me too!http://tinyurl.com/5jet7d



Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (wR+pz)

130

Just call it a Saturnalia tree and be done with it.

Or maybe a Jul log.

Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (UaxA0)

131 Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (t1NLo)Posted by: Moray at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (t1NLo)
Posted by: blue star at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (rmdRH)

Are we sure he's not Glen Greenwald?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (DrWcr)

132 They need something they could actually carry>>

OK we'll include the tripod mount accessory then.
http://tinyurl.com/a79zpg8

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (tf9Ne)

133 Christamas is celebrated at Dec 25th because this was near the Winter
solstice which was a pagan holiday and the Church wanted to stamp it
out.



Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:29 PM (YdQQY)

My mother refuses to celebrate Christmas becuase it is based on the ancient Roman holiday of Saturnalia dedicated to the worshiping of the pagan god Saturn.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (Hx5uv)

134 Suckers of Cock.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (QupBk)

135 101 Not knowing and/or loving thy God.
Not loving thy neighbor as thyself.
These are the things that make Christ weep.
Christmas trees in common areas at nursing homes?
Not so much.
Posted by: Killah Beeb's Chaperone at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (OL96w)

____

killjoy

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (DrC22)

136 BTW, folks, the 1st Amendment does not apply to private actors.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (dZ756)


SFGoth, that's the point. What reason does this private business have for demanding that all religious symbols of holiday celebration be removed? There's no basis for it save some silly "diversity" or "inclusion" clause in some handbook somewhere. If it's because of some requirement in their Medicare acceptance policy or some other federal or state money granted to them, then they should SAY SO.It's foolish and disruptive, and it completely ignores the will and desire of the people who live in the facility. They're a private business -- why would they do something that would make their customers so angry?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (4df7R)

137 i remember as a kid driving in some parts of the city (phoenix) and chrsismas lights would even be on the roadways.
even if one doesn't do christmas it felt festive an happy.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (nqBYe)

138 >>>old people need luvin too

It's not the friction. It's the stiction that gets you.

Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (m3ndV)

139 "St Boniface, who
converted the German people to Christianity, was said to have

come across a group of pagans worshipping an oak tree. In anger, St Boniface is said to have cut down the oak tree"

What an a-hole. Seriously.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (dZ756)

140 And they should round up those Christmas-song-writing Joooos like the Gershwins and send them to santa scum villages!!!11!!!

Posted by: Oloaf at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (jPVBi)

141 WTF does this have to do with Obama?
Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (t1NLo)

They're both things that suck.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (DrWcr)

142 Whatever JB Properties does, we must remind them not to harm or take away the FUCKING KWANZAA bush and menorah!!!

Posted by: dc at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (UdPlZ)

143 I had a nun named Sister Boniface once.

Man she was scary.

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (F+ZCA)

144 Well, when we talk about the war on Christmas, let's talk about the first casualties...the meaning of Christmas.

I hate listening to people act as if it's about being with your family or some stupid generic shit like that. Or snow. No, it's about baby jesus being born.

You listen to newer christmas songs...it's about it being that time of year when people get together and that special snowfall. puke.

The lefty hipsters do that with a lot of holidays.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (QxSug)

145 BTW, folks, the 1st Amendment does not apply to private actors.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:33 PM (dZ756)



Oh, I know that, I'm simply trying to determine why, out of the blue, the management company would do this. My first thought is that acceptance of Federal/State funds carries with it the strings of mandatory compliance with Federal/State anti-discrimination laws and, given the current state of jurisprudence in that area and the entire mess that are the rulings on religious displays at Christmas time, the management company said fuck this, we're yanking everything. Note that the menorah is down too.


brb can't sleep Lemon test will eat me


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Will spare the calming manatees at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (VtjlW)

146 --Also, shepherds in that part of the world are usually not grazing their flocks in December; it's too damn cold.Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (gBuIk)In the Middle East with a 1st century climate?

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (ZaB5l)

147 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (5DR1j)

148 Homeowners Association boards and Building Management: because petty tyranny should not be reserved just for those in elective office.

Where else can you find a group of people who pay you to micromanage every aspect of your life?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (APmL9)

149 This has nothing to do with my cum covered Obama posters.........

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (/YJYi)

150 124
Who cares what kind of symbol it is? The owners/management don't want it there. It's their business.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (t1NLo)


And the previous 4 years?

Posted by: Tami at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (X6akg)

151 WTF IS KWANZAA

Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (uFY4s)

152

no, December 25 came right after Saturnalia, and let the abstaining Christians celebrate while the rest of the Roman world was working off its transvestite hangover.



Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (UaxA0)

153 In anger, St Boniface is said to have cut down the oak tree

Meh. I'd have cut down the worshipers.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (QupBk)

154 "Where's our freedom?"

Dunno. Try looking in a history book.

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (zoehZ)

155 Speaking of Jews and Christmas, White Christmas!!

Mohammed--you got a problem with that?

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (DrC22)

156 Appreciate, these oldies are being done (what they claim to be) dirty by a PRIVATE CORPORATION. Gummit got nuttin' to do wid it.

And this is our problem. We want to be "consistent", while our enemies are at war with us, actively perpetrating a culture where banning Christmas Trees is okay... where anything they say at any time is accepted as truth.

Congratulations on your consistency. Have fun with the Commies.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (bSsXM)

157 OT- Rush talking to DeMint now

Posted by: Baldy at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (opS9C)

158 Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (wR+pz)

Love the horny background singers.

Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (m3ndV)

159 This is a legal move by a corporation. I agree it's a stupid, shitty legal move. I'm atheist and love christmas trees and christmas.

But it's a private business decision.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (t1NLo)

160 BTW, folks, the 1st Amendment does not apply to private actors.

Gee, thanks taking the time to point out what every fucking one of us has known since grade school.

Yes, they have the right to ban Christmas decorations from their property. Know what we as private actors are also free to do in response? Publicly disagree with and criticize their actions.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (SY2Kh)

161 I'm just warming up.

Posted by: Death Panel at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (AWmfW)

162 And I assume you agree that private Catholic
institutions should not be forced to provide birth control
orabortifacients to their employees, correct?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 06, 2012 12:34 PM (NF2Bf)

we know this only goes one direction.
sad for all of us. I hope the folks walk out and find a place to live that allows their fun.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (nqBYe)

163 They're both things that suck.Posted by: Insomniac at December 06, 2012 12:36 PM (DrWcr) Yep, and one thing they have in common with Ohlaff.

Posted by: maddogg at December 06, 2012 12:39 PM (OlN4e)

164
Fast away the old year passes
Fala-lalalalal-la-la-la-la-la
We'll stick the holly up your asses
Fala-lalalalal-la-la-la-la-la

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 06, 2012 12:39 PM (6H6FZ)

165

brb can't sleep Lemon test will eat me







Posted by: alexthechick



Like some late night horror monster, rising from the grave . . .

Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 12:39 PM (UaxA0)

166 134
Suckers of Cock.


You called?

Posted by: Barney at December 06, 2012 12:39 PM (wR+pz)

167 Proggers are a joyless bunch.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 12:39 PM (QupBk)

168 What a sad and pathetic country we've become. We give up the responsibility of taking care of our own family members to the Progressive State. We house them in these places where they are isolated and their experience and knowledge is squandered.

But what makes the news? Some shit about a tree.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 06, 2012 12:39 PM (J4gw3)

169 Ha. So you will blame Obama for any private business decisions that happens now?

You guys are amazing.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (t1NLo)

170 You wingnuts get upset over the silliest things. Who wants to buy some crusty HOPE posters?

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (/YJYi)

171 WTF does this have to do with Obama?
Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:35 PM (t1NLo)


I know I said "don't feed the trolls," but sometimes...

Hey, dickweed. Unlike you and your regressive buddies, we actually don't see everything through the lens of Capitol Hill. That's one of the reasons why we laugh at you when your kind blames everything from hurricanes to flu outbreaks on George W. Bush. It's hysterical and ridiculous.

Now shut the fuck up.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (4df7R)

172 146 --Also, shepherds in that part of the world are usually not grazing their flocks in December; it's too damn cold.Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (gBuIk)In the Middle East with a 1st century climate?

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2012 12:37 PM (ZaB5l)

--Yes, it is chilly there, not always hot baking desert.

Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (gBuIk)

173 It's probably much more simple than all this. Granny walked into a Christmas tree somewhere, fell and broke her hip. The company's Risk Manager turned into Christmas Tree Nazi.

Posted by: MoeRon at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (yWDpP)

174 This isn't a 1st amendment issue. Maybe the management company is controlled by muzzies. Or probably more likely, excessively PC leftist hippies. Either way, these residents should walk (or roll, or Rascal, or whatever).

Posted by: yinzer at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (/Mla1)

175 Also, for all those of you with your panties in a bunch that ace is saying this is Obama's fault, where, exactly, is that in the post? Hell, where, exactly did ace say anything about this being a government action? Look, my Platinum membership is all paid up so if anyone is seeing the invisible type, it should be me.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Will spare the calming manatees at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (VtjlW)

176 They all voted for Obama, I'm glad they are fucking miserable. Fuck em.

----

I dunno. They may be the last vestiges of the Republicans that used to keep CA red. Before the illegal wave. They came from a generation of Americans who probably did and still do love their country. These folks probably aren't the ones that started turning that place into a hell hole.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (lTVJy)

177 153
In anger, St Boniface is said to have cut down the oak tree



Meh. I'd have cut down the worshipers.

Are you following Mohammed's MO or is he following yours? You sure give Jesus a good name.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (dZ756)

178 166
134

Suckers of Cock.


I prefer it up the ass.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (wR+pz)

179 WINGNUTZ!!!

Posted by: lOaf at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (m3ndV)

180 Isn't a christmas tree a Pagen symbol - originating out of Germany I believe.

Posted by: tfox at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (DVC2D)

181 Posted by: notsothoreau at December 06, 2012 12:28 PM (5HBd1)

Well.... I don't remember seeing any Pine Trees in Jeruselum when I was there... but that may have been caused by Global Warming or deforestation or somthing...

/sarc, for those whose Sarcometer is out of calibration

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (lZBBB)

182 Olaf is an unrepentant pedophile. He has been dodging the sex offender registry ever since he molested, murdered, and ate several six-year-old boys in the 80s and 90s.

Whether this has to do with freedom of religion or not (and it really doesn't in the technical sense), it's a big fuck you to a bunch of old people and that sucks. No wonder Olaf is so gleefully giddy about it-- he only likes eating boy children.

Posted by: Truman North at December 06, 2012 12:42 PM (OxuaO)

183
Apparently, Robert and Cynthia Hart, who control JB Partners Group, are big democrat donors.

Posted by: jwest at December 06, 2012 12:42 PM (ZDsRL)

184 >>>Meh. I'd have cut down the worshipers.

Are you following Mohammed's MO or is he following yours? You sure give Jesus a good name.
Posted by: SFGoth


You may want to see a proctologist about that stick up your ass.

Posted by: weft Kling-loop at December 06, 2012 12:42 PM (08zV/)

185 Maybe the company sees it as a fire hazard? Or the cords are a tripping/safety hazard?

A private corporation looking out for its bottom line. How horrible!

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:42 PM (t1NLo)

186 Seems like a lot a "flexibility" after the election.

How many of these old coots voted for Bambi?

Posted by: nip at December 06, 2012 12:42 PM (11Tdq)

187 Oh. Bleeding hearts of the world UNITE.

Posted by: grinch at December 06, 2012 12:43 PM (UhXzR)

188 Olaf is an unrepentant pedophile. He has been dodging the sex offender registry ever since he molested, murdered, and ate several six-year-old boys in the 80s and 90s.

I hear he tried girls in the early Naughts, but didn't like it. So he went back to apprenticing under Jerry Sandusky. And I do mean UNDER.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:43 PM (4df7R)

189 No, it's a stupid dick move by the corporation. Let the old folks have their decorations.

I just think it's funny to see you all heated up over a private business decision.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (t1NLo)

190 I do like it up the ass, unfortunately I'll probably have to stick mine in your ear.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (/YJYi)

191 You sure give Jesus a good name.

I often fail to live up to his standards, but I don't think it besmirches His reputation. Hospitals are for sick people and the church is for sinners like me.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (QupBk)

192 Park51 had a "right" to put up their Super Happy Fun Mosque.

I love when libs start actually talking about "rights" and the "Constitution". That's when you know they have nothing left.

Guess what, f*ckfaces... we have a "right" to bomb the ME back to the f*cking Cenozoic Era. Oh, but boy would you ever bitch if we did.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (bSsXM)

193 no big gulps, no donuts, no cigs, no Christmas of Chanukah for you walk or ride out old folks it's the only way to have a voice in this brave new world.

Posted by: piss'd off ette at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (nqBYe)

194 i remember as a kid driving in some parts of the city (phoenix) and chrsismas lights would even be on the roadways.
even if one doesn't do christmas it felt festive an happy.


That's really the point. It's something that makes people feel good. It brings people together. (or depresses the hell out you, depending)

It's just a damn tree. Let people feel good for Fk sake.

The real lesson is don't get old.

Posted by: eleven at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (KXm42)

195 151 WTF IS KWANZAA
Posted by: ALEX NEEDS BRAIN BLEACH at December 06, 2012 12:38 PM (uFY4s)


Kwanza, my dear Alex, is a rich and diverse holiday celebrating the deep roots of the African-American experience that go all the way back to, well, Africa. This is a time for dressing up in our traditional garb, only the women must cover their breasts. We also eat traditional foods, such as black-eyed peas, and engage in culturally-rich traditions like key-swapping. Speaking of which, how did the pea get a black eye? He got mixed up with a potato!

Posted by: Cornell West at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (DrC22)

196 :::185 Maybe the company sees it as a fire hazard? Or the cords are a tripping/safety hazard? ::;

It would make more sense to eliminate the residents.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (APmL9)

197 190 That's ok. Needle dicks like you need a good sized ear to feel fulfilled.

Posted by: MoeRon at December 06, 2012 12:45 PM (yWDpP)

198

Continue ignoring it and maybe it will just ... go ... away.

Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 12:45 PM (UaxA0)

199 The issue is not whether or not the management company can do this; it's private property, so they can. The issue is that they felt the need to do it. There can be several reasons to do this: 1. They're bored. 2. They delight in pissing off helpless old people. 3. They think bad publicity is better than no publicity. 4. Their lawyers told them that if they receive state and/or federal dollars they might be liable if they allow a public expression of religious belief. None of the above are good and the fact that 4 is probably the answer is demoralizing and a sign of intolerance.


Oh, and why do you respond to t1NLo? It's probably average joe or some similar cocksucker who thinks stirring us up proves that he's smarter. Starve the troll.

Posted by: joncelli at December 06, 2012 12:45 PM (RD7QR)

200 It's quite simple, we have allowed and tolerated a war on our heritage and traditions by people that hate our heritage and traditions.

Two decades ago this would have not only not happened but wouldn't have even been a consideration in anyone's mind.

THEY WIN BECAUSE WE LET THEM WIN!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (RrD4h)

201 180 Isn't a christmas tree a Pagen symbol - originating out of Germany I believe.

Posted by: tfox at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (DVC2D)

Yeah.......pagan too

Posted by: BignJames at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (HtUkt)

202 Simple, someone complained, and the JB Partners Group folded, as the saying goes, faster than Superman on laundry day. That's all it takes, the whiff of a lawsuit, nowadays.

No doubt. I wish the name of the complainer would leak out so the codgers could indulge in a good old fashioned shunning.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (QupBk)

203 Yeah, ignore me like you ignored Nate Silver.

You guys light up my day sometimes. Thanks for being you!

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (t1NLo)

204 It would make more sense to eliminate the residents.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2012 12:44 PM (APmL9)

------
See! We knew you guys would eventually come around!!!

Posted by: Obamacare Elderly Treatment Review Panels at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (nELVU)

205
"St Boniface, who
converted the German people to Christianity, was said to have

come across a group of pagans worshipping an oak tree. In anger, St Boniface is said to have cut down the oak tree"

What an a-hole. Seriously.



Correction: He walked, unarmed,right into a bunch of armed tribesmen known for violence and rapine and cut down their sacred tree while they were in the middle of worship and then asked them what they were going to do about it.
BTW, a lot of these early Irish and English missionary saints were born as members of a warrior aristocracy, and, oddly, tended to act a lot like Beowulf-with-a-crozier....

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (ZaB5l)

206 Obligatory: It's a Saturnalia miracle!


http://youtu.be/E7jlePyE0zM


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Shipping Sheldon/Penny right to the end. at December 06, 2012 12:47 PM (VtjlW)

207 A private corporation looking out for its bottom line. How horrible!

LOL! So it's gone from, "How is this an Obama issue?" to "This isa private company doing what it wants, nothing to do with the first amendment," to "Maybe they think it's a fire hazard" (despite this being their fourth year of ownership and only the first year they've made this demand, with no mention of health or safety hazards being the driving cause).

What next, sweetie? Is it going to be, "Maybe the company president didn't get the Thomas the Tank Engine sheets he wanted from Santa when he was a little boy and he's hated Christmasever since.We should all respect and soothe his psychological trauma."

You truly are pathetic. It's not OUR fault your mother hates you and your father beat you across the face with a frying pan. Go cry to someone who cares.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:47 PM (4df7R)

208 Funny. I don't seem to recall Olaf bitching about the Private Sector on any of the Chik-Fil-A threads.

Posted by: garrett at December 06, 2012 12:47 PM (m3ndV)

209 169 Ha. So you will blame Obama for any private business decisions that happens now?
You guys are amazing.
Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:40 PM (t1NLo)

________

I blame Obama for everything. Some people blame Bush.

Posted by: Cornell West at December 06, 2012 12:47 PM (DrC22)

210 202180 Isn't a christmas tree a Pagen symbol - originating out of Germany I believe.

Posted by: tfox at December 06, 2012 12:41 PM (DVC2D)

Yeah.......pagan tooPosted by: BignJames at December 06, 2012 12:46 PM (HtUkt)
A pagan symbol that somehow appears five hundred plus years after paganism is gone....

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2012 12:48 PM (ZaB5l)

211 I was about to say in days of yore this kind of shit would have never happened. But in days of yore people did not pack their parents off to cattle ranches for the elderly. They stayed at home and lived with the family.


My Great Grandmother lived with us until the day she died.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:48 PM (YdQQY)

212 ...not 'The Feats of Strength'...

Posted by: George Costanza at December 06, 2012 12:48 PM (m3ndV)

213

There is no religious discrimination in housing to erect a Christmas tree.

See? THIS is why these militant atheist fuckholes need a good ass kicking.

To those militant atheist fuckholes around here: THIS is why everyone reflexively hates you.

Posted by: imp at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (UaxA0)

214 t1NLo is the reason that the commenter "Jon" has to put "(not the troll)" behind his name.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (GULKT)

215 A private corporation looking out for its bottom line.

Yeah, digging that fake tree someone bought five years ago out of a box in the basement really set them back. Thank Obama the loss can be recouped by taking it back down again!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (/kI1Q)

216 Nobody is saying the company has no rights to do this, nor saying that there needs to be some kind of legal remedy (unlike libtards who legislate everything they can). The thing that angers us is the constant attack on every harmless, indeed entirely beneficial, aspect of traditional western custom and tradition. They are actively working to wipe out distinct western cultural elements. Yet the cultural contaminates introduced by non-westerners, most of which are harmful and degenerate, are not only tolerated but are actively embraced. We are being made unwelcome in our own land. Fuck that.

Posted by: Reactionary at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (1gq4y)

217 Gee, I wonder if the management company has any issues with Kwanza

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (1Jaio)

218
grinch-sock off.

Seriously, wtfc. If I were owner, I'd be afraid of being sewed by some malcontent too. If these folks want a tree, then put one in their own damn room.

Community room is for ALL the customers, not just the tree lovers. Some perople don't like trees. Get over it

If you want something to wory about, wory about the soon to be quadrillion dollar debt hanging over your grand children.

Geesh!

Posted by: sophistahick (AKA Snake Plissken) at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (UhXzR)

219 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:47 PM (4df7R)

People pay good money for that kind of abuse, MWR.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (bSsXM)

220 Oops! Sock off.

Posted by: Cricket at December 06, 2012 12:50 PM (DrC22)

221 I only have a problem with the private sector if they are going against Obama's policies. Or if they oppressed my immigrant grandparents like Romney did.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:50 PM (/YJYi)

222 Rosebud

Posted by: Charles Foster Kane at December 06, 2012 12:50 PM (YdQQY)

223
I was about to say in days of yore this kind of shit would have never
happened. But in days of yore people did not pack their parents off to
cattle ranches for the elderly. They stayed at home and lived with the
family.


That's more the message I'm getting out of this, Vic.

Posted by: eleven at December 06, 2012 12:50 PM (KXm42)

224
Just call it a Saturnalia tree and be done with it.

BOW BEFORE THE MIGHT OF THE WORLD TREE,YGGDRASIL!

If you don't, we'll rape your Irish women.

Well we're going to do that anyway, but we'll rape them more!

Posted by: entropy at December 06, 2012 12:51 PM (TULs6)

225 t1NLo is the reason that the commenter "Jon" has to put "(not the troll)" behind his name.
Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (GULKT)


Yeah. He's a spineless little turd.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:51 PM (4df7R)

226 212
I was about to say in days of yore this kind of shit would have never
happened. But in days of yore people did not pack their parents off to
cattle ranches for the elderly. They stayed at home and lived with the
family.


My Great Grandmother lived with us until the day she died.


Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:48 PM (YdQQY)

Yes, my mom and my mother in law too. We didn't want them to die with strangers and they didn't, and I want that for myself as well. It's a sign of basic respect.

Posted by: joncelli at December 06, 2012 12:51 PM (RD7QR)

227 Chikfila can do whatever it wants, too. I don't agree with them, but I was against political action against them.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:51 PM (t1NLo)

228 Isn't a christmas tree a Pagen symbol - originating out of Germany I believe.

So we stole the symbol from the pagan tree worshiping douchebags and made it our own.

That we also cut down millions of trees and discard them a month or so later is just icing on the cake. Screw you, pagan hippies.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2012 12:51 PM (SY2Kh)

229 If you want something to wory about, wory about the soon to be quadrillion dollar debt hanging over your grand children.

Geesh!
Posted by: sophistahick (AKA Snake Plissken) at December 06, 2012 12:49 PM (UhXzR)



Here. Have this Pamprin. It's my last one but you clearly need it more.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Shipping Sheldon/Penny right to the end. at December 06, 2012 12:51 PM (VtjlW)

230 Maybe they didn't want to clean up the pine needles.

Posted by: Dumbfuck Liberal Troll at December 06, 2012 12:52 PM (bSsXM)

231 >>>My Great Grandmother lived with us until the day she died.

That's the real problem here. People sold the duty to care for their own kin. They gave in to the temptation of the Payout State.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 06, 2012 12:52 PM (J4gw3)

232 But in days of yore people did not pack their parents off to cattle
ranches for the elderly. They stayed at home and lived with the family.


My mother bought nursing home insurance after she realized screeching at me about what a loser I am my whole adult life might factor into my choice of nursing home.

It's nice your ancestors weren't all assholes. Other families are different.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, ray of sunshine at December 06, 2012 12:53 PM (/kI1Q)

233 we know this only goesone direction. sad for all of us. I hope the folks walk out and find a place to live that allows their fun.

Probably have to Hover Round out.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 06, 2012 12:53 PM (TskO6)

234 Community room is for ALL the customers, not just the tree lovers. Some perople don't like trees. Get over it



=========


How 'bout the tree haters get over it? Seriously.....it's up what, 3 weeks? It would absolutely KILL them to have to look at a Christmas tree for 3 weeks?

Posted by: Tami at December 06, 2012 12:53 PM (X6akg)

235 Spineless? I'm just here having fun.

And exactly how much spine does one need to post angry comments on a blog?

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:53 PM (t1NLo)

236
Community room is for ALL the customers, not just the tree lovers. Some perople don't like trees.

I don't like chairs.

Stop oppressing me with your sitting culture and get rid of the chairs!

Posted by: entropy at December 06, 2012 12:53 PM (TULs6)

237 A pagan symbol that somehow appears five hundred plus years after paganism is gone....

Paganism is gone? So my Wotanic friends don't exist? Paganism has never gone, and it never will.

More specifically, the idea of a Christmas Tree (a nearly perfectly circular conifer) comes from... well, lots of places, but especially the Germanic Yule (yep: the Yule Log, too) which included a circular decoration (often a tree) to signify the circular nature of the seasons.

Don't try to claim that Christmas is some specifically Christian religious holiday that does not draw from any pagan influence at all. That's simply silly. Among other things, Christians didn't even celebrate Christmas until at least a Century after Jesus's death and ascension.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 06, 2012 12:54 PM (5DR1j)

238 For those of you saying the elderly can just move I assume you do not know how incredibly difficult it is to find safe affordable senior housing these days. And with more housing that used to be just senior housing moving toward taking section 8 vouchers the safe part isn't even a guarantee anymore.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at December 06, 2012 12:54 PM (RZ8pf)

239 In case you were wondering if the Mayans were right, it appears that the Trib is sniping at Obama. The fucking Trib.


http://trib.in/YzTEcO

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Shipping Sheldon/Penny right to the end. at December 06, 2012 12:54 PM (VtjlW)

240
http://www.jbproperty.net/contact.html

Just sayin'

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 06, 2012 12:54 PM (n/ubI)

241 I am moving more and more to the LIB side and leaving the SID side.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 12:55 PM (YdQQY)

242
Probably have to Hover Round out.

Hovering is a religious act. Hovering is offensive. I demand all hovering cease. Gravity is science!

Posted by: entropy at December 06, 2012 12:56 PM (TULs6)

243 If anyone is interested in a great American Studies read on the history of Christmas check out The Battle For Christmas by Steve Nissenbaum.

Posted by: runninrebel at December 06, 2012 12:56 PM (J4gw3)

244
As a Christian, my biggest fear is that they allow religious symbols in the public square because once they do, then you get all symbols being protected. Similarly, if burning the flag is outlawed then suddenly all "freedom of expression" is jeopardized.

You can't have it both ways, otherwise you become a fascist state.

So take the good with the bad. Christmas is not about a symbol.

Posted by: sophistahick (AKA Snake Plissken) at December 06, 2012 12:56 PM (UhXzR)

245 Spineless? I'm just here having fun.

Oooh, touched a nerve, huh?

*chin on palm* Tell me, Jon. When did you first realize you were spineless? Was it when you soiled yourself during gym class because you knew your chicken arms couldn't do a single pull up? Or was it when you beat up that four year old and stole his bike so you wouldn't miss your freshman orientation your first (and last) year of college? Let's explore your feelings. And no, this won't be used for mockery at all. Not one little iota.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:56 PM (4df7R)

246 Let's just herd the old folks into sterile concrete barracks and leave 'em to die , out of sight and mind . It's the progressive thing to do .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 06, 2012 12:57 PM (USjX1)

247 Oooh... it doesn't like being told how spineless it is.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 12:57 PM (bSsXM)

248 Sounds like time for the "Airing of Grievances"!

Posted by: Hrothgar - LIB or SMOD (for the Children) at December 06, 2012 12:58 PM (Cnqmv)

249 There's no War on Christmas wingnuts.

Posted by: The MFM at December 06, 2012 12:58 PM (HI6wa)

250 Old people remind me I am not immortal. Ban old people in public places.

Posted by: entropy at December 06, 2012 12:58 PM (TULs6)

251 Let's just herd the old folks into sterile concrete
barracks and leave 'em to die , out of sight and mind . It's the
progressive thing to do .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 06, 2012 12:57 PM (USjX1)


So you've read Obamacare

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 06, 2012 12:59 PM (1Jaio)

252 I first realized I was spineless when I was a senior in high school and I let a 6th grader shove me in a locker. I was in there, crying, for 4 hours.

Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:59 PM (/YJYi)

253 Don't like the tree? Don't look at the tree, problem solved (unless it really IS going to kill or rape you, I guess).
Posted by: acethepug at December 06, 2012 12:58 PM (OQhDd)


Last I checked The Evil Dead wasn't a documentary, so I think they're safe in that regard.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 12:59 PM (4df7R)

254 I first realized I was spineless when I was a senior in high school and I let a 6th grader shove me in a locker. I was in there, crying, for 4 hours.
Posted by: Olaf at December 06, 2012 12:59 PM (/YJYi)


And it wasn't even locked.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at December 06, 2012 01:00 PM (4df7R)

255 Here, let me slap you. I like slapping people. Its fun. It won't kill you to be slapped just a little. So hold still while I slap.

Posted by: sophistahick (AKA Snake Plissken) at December 06, 2012 01:01 PM (UhXzR)

256 Here I like to worship a pentagram with chicken bones and snake heads adorning it plus a few stinky candles. You got a problem with that? eff off.

Posted by: sophistahick (AKA Snake Plissken) at December 06, 2012 01:04 PM (UhXzR)

257 Why are these old folk being so contrary it's not like we're killin' them by starvation and dehydration like the sophisticated Euro's do .
Not yet , anyway .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 06, 2012 01:04 PM (USjX1)

258 Let's just herd the old folks into sterile concrete barracks and leave
'em to die , out of sight and mind . It's the progressive thing to do .


I'm in favor of whatever it takes to keep them from getting behind the wheel.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 06, 2012 01:04 PM (SY2Kh)

259 @HeatherRadish,

Yeah, I would put up my in-laws. Maybe my dad. Mom's going right to Storage B.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 06, 2012 01:05 PM (APmL9)

260 I think that young lady at the right is muttering "Molon Labe, motherfuckers!"

Posted by: sherlock at December 06, 2012 01:06 PM (bCSgp)

261 "there is no religious celebration here. We do not look down on Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or Ramadan . here, you are all equally worthless. and we have orders to weed out any semblance of religious life"

Posted by: DCPensFan at December 06, 2012 01:06 PM (ma/2m)

262
Beyond all the logic of the public square arguments.... this is private property. If the owner doesn't want to serve certain types, he should not be compelled to do so. Yes, even lunch counters.

Posted by: sophistahick (AKA Snake Plissken) at December 06, 2012 01:07 PM (UhXzR)

263
Paganism is gone? So my Wotanic friends don't exist? Paganism has never gone, and it never will.
Unless your Wotanic friends practice human sacrifice and believe that only those who die in battle go to Valhalla, than no. Neo-paganism, the paganism of today,is a mishmash of cherry-picked bits of mythology, post-modern philosophy, and historical speculation. Modern papanism is in no way a continuation of the pre-Christiaian religions of Europe, and, yes, the German-speaking peoples ceased practicing paganism as an actual religion over a thousand years ago, isolated superstitions notwithstanding.


More specifically, the idea of a Christmas Tree (a nearly perfectly circular conifer) comes from... well, lots of places, but especially the Germanic Yule (yep: the Yule Log, too) which included a circular decoration (often a tree) to signify the circular nature of the seasons.

Don't try to claim that Christmas is some specifically Christian religious holiday that does not draw from any pagan influence at all. That's simply silly. Among other things, Christians didn't even celebrate Christmas until at least a Century after Jesus's death and ascension.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 06, 2012 12:54 PM (5DR1j)
The Christmas tree may be based on a pre-Christian custom of taking in greenery, but as far as I know it is a fairly recent custom (post AD 1500). If you have evidence otherwise, I would be glad to hear it...

Posted by: Grey Fox at December 06, 2012 01:08 PM (ZaB5l)

264 "146 --Also, shepherds in that part of the world are usually not grazing their flocks in December; it's too damn cold.Posted by: logprof at December 06, 2012 12:32 PM (gBuIk)In the Middle East with a 1st century climate? "
Okay, don't celebrate Christmas or do. The point of the story is that rent paying elderly folk would like a Christmas tree in a public room, owned by a private corporation. This has nothing to do with the historic origins of "Christmas" symbols.

Posted by: Wendy at December 06, 2012 01:10 PM (KydDZ)

265 sophistahick

root word sophist.

I only say that because you seem you be painting youself into a philosophical corner there.

Posted by: eleven at December 06, 2012 01:13 PM (KXm42)

266 I suggest random acts of minor sabotage. When the costs get high enough, they'll get their tree back.

Posted by: George Hayduke at December 06, 2012 01:13 PM (vWHvS)

267 251 There's no War on Christmas wingnuts.
Only at the Senior Living facility.

Posted by: Wendy at December 06, 2012 01:14 PM (KydDZ)

268 Fuck militant atheism. Who's got the time, there's too much shit to let and watch burn. I'm re-awakening the N/A-theist movement. We, the truly enlightened, just don't give a fuck.

Christians can do as they please.
Muslims can do as they please.
Jews can do as they please.
Buddhists can do as they please.
Rastafarians can do as they please (closer to us, if you wouldn't mind, please...and thanks)
Ad infinitem...

Just don't spend any tax dollars or free time sanctioning any particular religion (like that pesky First Amendment instructs the Federal Government to do in the first place), and we're happy and content to mark a giant N/A on all of it.

Wish the militant atheists could get a frigging clue. It's much happier recognizing that shit that doesn't apply...just doesn't apply.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at December 06, 2012 01:16 PM (hNXHo)

269 If I ever end up in one of these places, there will be hell to pay if they try shit like this.

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 06, 2012 01:17 PM (nTgAI)

270
At a private facility? Huh?
And what's with these school districts who are backing down from allowing their school choirs from performing a Christmas program for charity because of threats of law suits. That's going on in Hawaii, with the cries of separation of church and state.

I thought the Supremes had already settled that--that the "separation of church and state" is simply the prinicple that the state cannot impose a state religion.
I'm not religious but I'll gladly fight against the hateful people who are standing in the way of such things.

Posted by: marie at December 06, 2012 01:18 PM (IiAO1)

271 Picking on old people, now that's low

Posted by: The Jackhole at December 06, 2012 01:18 PM (nTgAI)

272 I'll with whatever CAIR says.

Posted by: Tours Lepanto Vienna at December 06, 2012 01:20 PM (CrJzY)

273 Beyond all the logic of the public square arguments.... this is private property. If the owner doesn't want to serve certain types, he should not be compelled to do so. Yes, even lunch counters.
-----
True, for instance I will not process an order in my sales business from Vietnam. Experience has shown that they are all fraudulent. Technically this is probably racism but I've never had to argue it, and don't make it public. And the ignored orders never complain for some reason.

Posted by: Whatev at December 06, 2012 01:22 PM (2t6Gz)

274 I thought the Supremes had already settled that--that the "separation of church and state" is simply the prinicple that the state cannot impose a state religion.I'm not religious but I'll gladly fight against the hateful people who are standing in the way of such things.
Posted by: marie at December 06, 2012 01:18 PM (IiAO1)


Liberals don't obey the law why would you expect them to obey a supreme court decision.

Posted by: buzzion at December 06, 2012 01:22 PM (GULKT)

275 If the owner doesn't want to serve certain types, he should not be compelled to do so. Yes, even lunch counters.

On the other hand, he is.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 06, 2012 01:22 PM (bSsXM)

276 "Where's our freedom? This is ridiculous."

How many of you vote for Democrats?

Own it.

How many of you voted for Obinga Putt-Putt Mugabe?

Own it.

Shut up and eat your gruel, serfs.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 06, 2012 01:24 PM (H1M3J)

277 Sad to see this happen in my hometown.....

Posted by: Braineaterbob at December 06, 2012 01:27 PM (uNg8z)

278 271 If I ever end up in one of these places, there will be hell to pay if they try shit like this.
Posted by: The Jackhole at December 06, 2012 01:17 PM (nTgAI)


By that time, just thinking of Christmas will get you the L-pill.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at December 06, 2012 01:27 PM (H1M3J)

279 God, that sign pisses me off. "Please save our tree?" Here's a thought - put the tree up with a sign saying "It's a CHRISTMAS TREE, assholes! Come and take it over our dead bodies!" Let's see if management wants the visuals of some community organizing clown dragging a tree away through a mob of enraged elders.

Fight back, for fuck's sake!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 06, 2012 01:27 PM (zF6Iw)

280 Meh, just hang some Chairman Mao ornaments on it and then watch some bitch try to take the tree down.

Posted by: kallisto at December 06, 2012 01:28 PM (jm/9g)

281 Gee, when will Candy "The Anti-Bully Bully" Crowley chime in about these seniors getting bullied?

Posted by: Manolo at December 06, 2012 01:29 PM (ceoOP)

282
What the fuck is wrong with these people? A couple of years ago, didn't the feds tell some nursing home that they would lose subsidized meals if they said grace?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 06, 2012 01:32 PM (e/Cti)

283 "Evidence of this please"

To amplify what Vic wrote, St Luke's gospel says that on the night of the Nativity, "there were shepherds keeping watch over their flocks by night" (Luke 2:. Shepherds do that during lambing season, which is in the spring.

Posted by: Brown Line at December 06, 2012 01:32 PM (VrNoa)

284 I'm going to back up Grey Fox on the timing of Christmas issue. This notion of "Christians picked 12/25 to steal the season from the pagans" is an urban legend. Yes, it sounds nice and fits and is widely accepted among those with "just enough knowledge to be condescending assholes", the historical reality is that for the first hundred years after Jesus' birth, (1) the pagans were not out celebrating the season with any particular vigor, and (2) the big date for early Christians was Easter. It was only after Christians began widely celebrating Christmas that "winter solstice" picked up steam, just like Hannukah and Kwanzaa are increasingly popular, despite being relatively religiously insignificant (or "made up" in the case of Kwanzaa).

The 12/25 date may be wrong (just as the year is wrong), but that is a function of poor calendaring calculations by early Christians, not cynical "stamp out the pagans" nonsense.

Posted by: wooga at December 06, 2012 01:38 PM (/aD1n)

285 Dear residents,

If you were looking forward to what might be your last Christmas, that was last year. Hope you enjoyed it.


-The Management


Posted by: Dang at December 06, 2012 01:42 PM (R18D0)

286 Just heard Rush on the radio: "You can tell these are very, very old people, because they're talking about freedom."

Posted by: rickl at December 06, 2012 01:42 PM (zoehZ)

287 Yes this is a private company and they can do what they want.


They can also get a weeks worth of bad publicity all over the country.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 01:44 PM (YdQQY)

288 Fight back, for fuck's sake!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Nap in shifts!

Posted by: Dang at December 06, 2012 01:45 PM (R18D0)

289 Also, as to the issues of lining up modern calendars with ancient seasons, I understand that it does not line up very well (leap years and all that jazz). I do not know what the offset is. Conversely, I know that the temperature / climate was likely very different 2000 years ago. I have seen scientists argue that it was much colder, and some saying it was more humid, but I do not know who is more accurate -- the "cold 1 AD" folks seem to be peddling a "Jesus was boogie boarding on a chunk of ice and it looked like he was walking on water" theory -- so I don't put stock in any particular theory there.

Posted by: wooga at December 06, 2012 01:46 PM (/aD1n)

290 Seems pretty simple to fight back against this.

At meal times, throw your food all over the cafeteria.

Every time you have to go to the bathroom, choose instead to pee/poop yourself and force the staff to clean you, even if you are fully able to use a toilet.

Everyone push your nurse call button simultaneously, repeatedly, all day long.


That seems to be how to get your way in today's world.

Posted by: aaa at December 06, 2012 01:49 PM (JFsQc)

291 Posted by: wooga at December 06, 2012 01:46 PM (/aD1n)


The climate would not shift that much. It would take a pole shift to do that and that would kill almost all the life on earth.


Besides that, it was still Roman tax time even according to biblical accounts. Roman tax time was in the Spring.

Posted by: Vic at December 06, 2012 01:51 PM (YdQQY)

292 This is just the tip, as they say. Wait til these fine, fine seniors need medical care in the new era of Obama.

Posted by: Fritz at December 06, 2012 02:07 PM (ZA675)

293
Once I strip you of your hope and faith, I own you.

Posted by: Socialism at December 06, 2012 02:16 PM (vbh31)

294 Don't fuck with old people. Life without possibility of parole isn't really a big deal for us.

Posted by: Liverpool Bound SMOD feels my pain at December 06, 2012 02:17 PM (Z5BDI)

295
Christmas tree ... a religious symbol

Yeah, from those tree-worshiping Germans. Boniface converted them to Christianity, and the Church, having done this previously and pleased with the results, usurped the old religion's festivals and symbols.

Thus why we have Christmas trees, yule logs, holly and wreaths.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at December 06, 2012 02:18 PM (1hM1d)

296 There's no war on Christmas!!!

Posted by: Jon Stewart at December 06, 2012 02:40 PM (ZWaLo)

297 They should make the cops come in there and take it down by force. Have the cameras snapping!

Show the world the true face of moonbat idiocy...

Posted by: Alinsky at December 06, 2012 02:52 PM (z4IOv)

298 286 ...It was only after Christians began widely celebrating Christmas that
"winter solstice" picked up steam, just like Hannukah and Kwanzaa are
increasingly popular, despite being relatively religiously insignificant
(or "made up" in the case of Kwanzaa)...


=========

This.

Posted by: edj at December 06, 2012 03:11 PM (+QKfp)

299 Screw their holiday spirit - they practically are spirits. Die already! The world belongs to the young!

Posted by: JB Partners Group, Inc. at December 06, 2012 03:15 PM (FsqHK)

300 I ascribe to the broken-window theory. So let's break all the windows and let management sort THAT one out.

Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at December 06, 2012 03:22 PM (z1C58)

301 Private retirement homes have the absolute right to do what they want on their property. Sure they do. But they have no rights to be shielded from the consequences of making their patients miserable.

Posted by: Rich Fader at December 06, 2012 03:52 PM (Qe+H7)

302 Something to point out here.."Senior Apartment" usually is section 8, which means it is under HUD jurisdiction. This may have nothing to do with landlord's wishes, it may be a Federal Regulation....

Posted by: Steve C. at December 06, 2012 04:18 PM (0WM+y)

303 I think I'll send these folks a Christmas Card with a tree on it.

Maybe two...

Posted by: Aunt Ralph at December 06, 2012 04:25 PM (6VG2o)

304
Federal holidays are designated by Congress in Title V of the United States Code (5 U.S.C. § 6103.
Christmas is only one of eleven FEDERAL holidays listed in the US Code (above). So, by federal law, Christmas is not just a religious "tradition".

Posted by: porthuronpunk at December 06, 2012 04:45 PM (Jcs2b)

305 I want to drive up and take these people home with me. This infuriates me.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at December 06, 2012 04:52 PM (baL2B)

306 What are the names, religions and political affiliations of these asshats?

The truth shall set you free.

Posted by: Smarty at December 06, 2012 06:05 PM (a6pWJ)

307 Put on an islam flag and korn in the manger and see how things go. I bet THAT would NOT be taken down because it has religious affiliations. I bet it would even be said that is the best navativity setting we have EVER seen.

Posted by: Heltau at December 06, 2012 08:38 PM (Tp2Qu)

308 Some atheist jackass exercised the HECKLER'S VETO, and the management caved. (OH, Atheeeeiiiisssts? whatever happened to "Live and Let Live?")

Yeah, we get that the management's ugly and cruel behavior was "legal," but a lot of ugly behavior is "legal." That's not the ONLY benchmark for how people should behave.

These folks pay their rent. They have been able to have a Christmas tree and menorahs all along -- now the other party to the contract wants to change the terms? THAT, I think, would give the old folks legal justification to withhold their rent: they didn't move into a holiday-hostile place, it was changed after the fact.

These heckler atheists, man. Some people could fuck up a wet dream.

Posted by: beverly at December 07, 2012 01:45 AM (r+WHH)

309
I suggest that we replace it with a pentagram.

We can have a decapitated rooster in a manger instead of Christ.

And abortion debris should be the hay.

Posted by: tboyle at December 07, 2012 02:36 AM (w7CNQ)






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