Glenn Beck, Vince Vaughn, and Peter Billingsly ("Ralphie" from "A Christmas Story") Team Up To Produce Reality TV Show About Producing Documentaries

A while ago I read something about Vaughan that seemed to indicate he wasn't liberal. Which I took for code for "might be a conservative."

And Ralphie too? Well, Ralphie has been a frequent producer on Vaughan or Favreau movies, so he's part of the deal. I don't know if we can infer anything about Ralphie.

Anyway, they'll be doing a show called "Pursuit of the Truth," in which they will make a documentary about... well, making a documentary.

The show is called “Pursuit of Truth,” and it pits 20 documentary filmmakers against one another, with the grand prize being the financing and distribution of their documentary film.

"I am proud to announce that Vince Vaughn and I are going to be the executive producers," Beck said Wednesday. "That should make everybody's head spin. What the hell is Vince Vaughn doing with a crazy man? I know, that's what my friends say. Glenn, what are you doing with the crazy man Vince Vaughn?"

By the way, I saw "The Watch" a couple of weeks ago. It stars Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn, and Jonah Hill.

I think a fair review would be this: Three very funny guys team-up for a high-concept, low-ambition bit of money-making movie-making and while none of them are exactly working hard in this movie, it's still good for a painless few laughs, so long as you don't mind a lot of dick and sex jokes.

No one's re-inventing the wheel as far as their on-screen personae here. Stiller does the Control Freak persona he does all the time (Royal Tannenbaums, for instance) and Vaughn plays a slightly stupider version of his Good Time Charlie Frat-Boy type. Jonah Hill I guess does something a little different -- he kind of steals Seth Rogan's character from Observe and Report, the dark, crazy wannabe cop who should never actually be a cop.

Three or four bits are clearly improvised, and... you guys? Three of the funnier people in the world? This was your best take?

It's not a great movie but here's the thing: I did re-watch the whole last half of the film soon after watching it the first time, to enjoy a couple of jokes again (and to also spot the Lonely Island guys (Andy Samberg & the other two) who show up for a cameo). So while a lot of these jokes are shopworn (the whole montage where they pose with the alien is very similar to the ending montage of The Hangover), they're still decent jokes with a little bit of life in them.

Low ambition, very little work or thought being put in... Basically guys just showing up for a reasonably cute premise and doing what they usually do in movies. It's a cash-in sort of movie where they do actually manage to barely earn their checks.

Given how godawful and unfunny most comedies are, I give it a positive rating of two stars out of four. I did not hate it at all. It's sporadically pretty funny and even when it's not funny -- the basic plot of a suburban neighborhood watch uncovering a massive alien infiltration is just a pretty fun idea.

The nagging feeling is just that: Shouldda been better. But, still, not so bad. Set expectations to low and it's a good enough timewaster.

Posted by: Ace at 05:25 PM



Comments

1 Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine.

Posted by: dantesed at December 05, 2012 05:28 PM (AN9fe)

2

Like I posted earlier on this, I think this is a good idea.

Get out the truth, with a competition for hard research (like the Fed/Treasury, etc), and bring eyes to the Blaze TV.

Good stuff, I hope.

Posted by: beach & a kindle at December 05, 2012 05:29 PM (LpQbZ)

3 Second look at Swingers?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 05:31 PM (HDgX3)

4 Ralphie got blowd up in the "Funvee" at the beginning of Iron Man, too.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at December 05, 2012 05:32 PM (i2Lsf)

5 Who will judge the winner? Will that colossal liar Ken Burns participate?

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 05:32 PM (YdQQY)

6 A while ago I read something about Vaughan that seemed to indicate he
wasn't liberal. Which I took for code for "might be a conservative."





If I remember right, in a 2008 Rolling Stone interview, Vaughn was asked about the election and he refused to talk about it. The interviewer seemed to want know if he was all giddy about Barry and he wouldn't talk about it. At least I think that's how it went.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 05, 2012 05:32 PM (1Jaio)

7 I'd like to see a documentary about the economist class that thinks that the trillion dollar coin is a good idea.

It probably stars that fat bitch "economist" who harassed Paul Ryan over his bottle of wine.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

8 Heard Ralphie interviewed on Beck today. Very sharp, well spoken libertarian/conservative.

Posted by: Fartist at December 05, 2012 05:33 PM (WGWHF)

9 ralphie's still in movies?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

10 so long as you don't mind a lot of dick and sex jokes.

We hate that shit.

Posted by: teh Morons at December 05, 2012 05:33 PM (O6q63)

11 and that trillion dollar coin, it's a simpson's joke (s4ee hot air), right?

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 05:34 PM (QxSug)

12 I think you can infer that Peter is more center right than normal hollywood. Best friends with radical republican Vince Vaughn and was the national spokesman for President Ronald Reagan's Young Astronaut Council. Now working with Glenn Beck? That's a right winger.

Posted by: Brenden at December 05, 2012 05:35 PM (wa+SP)

13 >>>Heard Ralphie interviewed on Beck today. Very sharp, well spoken libertarian/conservative.

no way, RALPHIE?!?!

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 05:36 PM (LCRYB)

14 >>>ralphie's still in movies?

i think he was a producer on Iron Man. He's definitely a producer on most VV/Jon Favreau movies. He has occasional appearances.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 05:36 PM (LCRYB)

15
Isn't it odd that Ace starts off with Glenn Beck and still manages to sneak in a wordy movie review.

On second thought, not that odd....

Posted by: i am mad as hell - period at December 05, 2012 05:37 PM (cgxNI)

16 I'm already editing my reel....

This is sauteed in awesome, man.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at December 05, 2012 05:37 PM (liORJ)

17 Heard Ralphie interviewed on Beck today. Very sharp, well spoken libertarian/conservative.


Does he still have his eyes?

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 05:37 PM (YdQQY)

18 I'll post my reel in the group, if everyone's cool with that and maybe interested.

Posted by: My Sharia Moor at December 05, 2012 05:37 PM (liORJ)

19 F-u-d-g-e.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 05, 2012 05:38 PM (UU0OF)

20 >>>17 Heard Ralphie interviewed on Beck today. Very sharp, well spoken libertarian/conservative.
----
Does he still have his eyes?

He got new ones from a donor that died after being stuck to a frozen pole.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at December 05, 2012 05:39 PM (sGU4F)

21 Odd segue between news article and movie review. Ace, as the guy who plays your doctor on the Internet, I prescribe exactly nine days of vacation. No more, no less.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 05:39 PM (I2LwF)

22 Oh god no, I want to continue with my inexplicable loathing of Vince Vaughn. Don't let him be not a total douche canoe.


That review actually makes me want to watch The Watch because there's nothing wrong with a stupid movie that plays up personae. Plus I really like Jonah Hill.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 05:40 PM (Gk3SS)

23 I watched the 10 minute free preview for "The Watch". It didn't make me want to buy it. I get more laughs reading these comments.

Posted by: i am mad as hell - period at December 05, 2012 05:41 PM (cgxNI)

24
I get more laughs watching MSNBC.

Posted by: i am mad as hell - period at December 05, 2012 05:42 PM (cgxNI)

25 Hey, you know who is almost exactly like Jonah Hill? Seth Rogan.

I had not really considered that they might not be the same person until this thread. I just assumed they were.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (I2LwF)

26 no way, RALPHIE?!?!

It's pronounced frah-GEE-lay

Posted by: fluf-feh at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (O6q63)

27 My wife refuses to have Christmas Story on The TV if she is in the house. And she lives for schmaltzy Christmas specials.


Think "Lifetime Christmas" and that is her ideal.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (YdQQY)

28 Glenn Beck has a puffy face too.

He should run for Congress!

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (ccXZP)

29 This afternoon at the White House, the President met with influential
progressives to talk about the importance of preventing a tax increase
on middle class families, strengthening our economy and adopting a
balanced approach to deficit reduction.”


patterico

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (nqBYe)

30 MSNBC's prime time line-up was spotted entering the West Wing Tuesday
afternoon for what host Ed Schultz tweeted was a meeting with President
Barack Obama.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (nqBYe)

31 A while ago I read something about Vaughan that seemed to indicate he
wasn't liberal. Which I took for code for "might be a conservative."

Vince Vaughn IS a conservative/libertarian. There's no doubt about it. He wrote a blurb to Jonah Goldberg's latest book. He also introduced Ron Paul at some event.

Posted by: Bob at December 05, 2012 05:44 PM (s/Ukz)

32 This afternoon at the White House, the President met with influential
progressives to talk about the importance of preventing a tax increase
on middle class families, strengthening our economy and adopting a
balanced approach to deficit reduction.”


patterico
Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (nqBYe)


He met with Al Sharpy Sharpton. Some expert. What a farce. Actually what a big fat fuckin farce

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2012 05:44 PM (jE38p)

33 And Zachary Galfinakis. Totally the same guy, but just a little older.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 05:44 PM (I2LwF)

34 Vaughn is a libertarian and luap nor supporter.

Posted by: Witchfinder at December 05, 2012 05:46 PM (pLTLS)

35 He met with Al Sharpy Sharpton. Some expert. What a farce. Actually what a big fat fuckin farce

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2012 05:44 PM (jE38p)


He met with Al Sharpton, Rachel Maddow, and Daily KOS. As I said this morning, the jokes write themselves.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 05:46 PM (YdQQY)

36
I gather from the Drudge Report that the administration is now daring us to go "over the cliff". Let's do it.
It's not like the effects of the added FICA tax, the increased marginal rates and the sequestration are going to have any dramatic immediate effects.
Makeit burn. Not like a fire. More like a smoldering cigarette.

Posted by: i am mad as hell - period at December 05, 2012 05:46 PM (cgxNI)

37 Nevrgiveup,
The complicity of the media and the Poltical power (or otherwise known 'as the man' ,in days gone by) is on the the good for us -Open, up for all to see.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 05:46 PM (nqBYe)

38 SON OF A BITCH. Just got tricked into reading a movie review. You got me Ace, you got me.

Posted by: yinzer at December 05, 2012 05:47 PM (/Mla1)

39 it's still good for a painless few laughs, so long as you don't mind a lot of dick and sex jokes.

I've found myself going to Netflix and wanting a politics filter.

Somebody tell me if it's going to piss me off.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 05:47 PM (T0NGe)

40 and adopting a balanced approach to deficit reduction.”___
"balanced" -- that's the focus-grouped word they're reiterating in every SCM pronouncement and news byte. I caught on to it when LIVs in my acquaintance started using it when we talk about the fiscal cliff. I figured it wasn't coincidence by the third time I heard it parroted.

And of course "balance", to them, means anything preazy wants, without qualification, review or amendment.

Posted by: kallisto at December 05, 2012 05:48 PM (jm/9g)

41 I wonder what a contemporary version of "A Christmas Story" would look like...they would have to expunge all references to bullying and abusive behavior. Basically, the entire movie. Ralphie would be so victimized, he'd be catatonic in a hospital bed.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 05, 2012 05:48 PM (YeV/c)

42 >>>He met with Al Sharpton, Rachel Maddow, and Daily KOS. As I said this morning, the jokes write themselves.

Steps to Avoid the Fiscal Cliff:
1) Start riots that kill Jewish store owners.
2) Smirk into the camera and read your 'notes' for 'facts'.
3) Hang Americans from overpasses, then say 'Screw them'

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at December 05, 2012 05:48 PM (sGU4F)

43 I've found myself going to Netflix and wanting a politics filter. Somebody tell me if it's going to piss me off.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 05:47 PM (T0NGe)
Netflix streaming is jam packed full of lefty documentaries. Leftists sure do love them some documentaries. There's a doc for any lefty issue you can think of.

Posted by: yinzer at December 05, 2012 05:48 PM (/Mla1)

44 @ 26 - Must be Italian.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 05, 2012 05:48 PM (DAWfC)

45 Only Democrats care about skin color

Posted by: K~Bob at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (HplBA)

46 22 Oh god no, I want to continue with my inexplicable loathing of Vince Vaughn. Don't let him be not a total douche canoe.


That review actually makes me want to watch The Watch because there's nothing wrong with a stupid movie that plays up personae. Plus I really like Jonah Hill.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 05:40 PM (Gk3SS)



Wait, you think Vince Vaughn is a douche and you like Jonah Hill???


My queen....I'm....I.........

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (GEICT)

47 Balanced means offset any tax increases with even more spending.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (YdQQY)

48 I want a politics filter to everything in the media.

Refreshingly, The Good Wife is possibly the most-political show on TV, and yet treats every kind of political outlook with dignity and respect. Sure, the main characters are all total libs, but they treat characters with other political views well.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (I2LwF)

49 Ralphie got off lucky - he looks like a grown man. That Jason Whatshisnuts who played the older brother on The Wonder Years still looks like a child. Creepy.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 05, 2012 05:50 PM (wrrFE)

50 Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (YdQQY)
___

Thank you for the SCM/LIV translation.

Posted by: kallisto at December 05, 2012 05:50 PM (jm/9g)

51 Must be Italian.

It's a major award!

Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2012 05:51 PM (O6q63)

52 Only Democrats care about skin color
Posted by: K~Bob at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (HplBA)


Yup, Republicans care about tits and ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2012 05:51 PM (jE38p)

53 Ralphie the Hit Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_t01_6a2kQ

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2012 05:51 PM (wwsoB)

54 The reason I hate the political stuff is -- let's face it -- I'm smarter and more knowledgeable than the douchebag writers when it comes to philosophy and current events and I find myself arguing with the TV. Even with the points of view I mostly agree with.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 05:52 PM (T0NGe)

55 Yup, Republicans care about tits and ass

Stop having Conversations about my body.

Posted by: Ashley Puff at December 05, 2012 05:52 PM (/kI1Q)

56
I don't know, nobody around the AoSHQ really likes the dick and sex jokes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2012 05:52 PM (n/ubI)

57 Wait, you think Vince Vaughn is a douche and you like Jonah Hill???





My queen....I'm....I.........

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 05:49 PM (GEICT)



I told you it was inexplicable!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 05:53 PM (Gk3SS)

58 I find myself arguing with the TV

That's ok, I find myself arguing with myself

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 05, 2012 05:53 PM (jE38p)

59 >Three of the funnier people in the world?

Jonah Hill isn't funny.

Posted by: The guy who says Ron Paul at December 05, 2012 05:53 PM (5f8oG)

60 I thought Ralphie was that lab guy The Dude flipped out on at the arc reactor.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 05, 2012 05:53 PM (6wcJw)

61 Well, I mean, I'm trying to give it a positive review. It's worth it, I think. I thought I got my five dollars' worth.

I'm trying to distinguish between a good movie and an enjoyable movie. it's more the latter. No one's going to come of this thinking "Man, I just saw a truly first-rate piece of filmmaking."

>>>Somebody tell me if it's going to piss me off.

I cannot remember anything political in it. There's a lot of dirty stuff in it. I don't want to do spoilers on the dirty stuff as those are the only jokes not spoiled in the trailers.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 05:54 PM (LCRYB)

62 >Three of the funnier people in the world?



Jonah Hill isn't funny.


He's hilarious! What's the matter with you, you don't like Yakety Sax?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 05:54 PM (T0NGe)

63 What's the name of that show about the nerd and the ex CIA guy with the computer that spies on everyone? I can't remember the name of it.

But last episode, there were two rich people whose numbers came up together. One of the first things they discover is that a "militia" is coming to town.

Obvious Hollywood trope, right?

But it turns out it was a red herring. They were trying to murder each other instead of getting a divorce.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 05:54 PM (I2LwF)

64 I have to assume Ace has never watched The IT Crowd. The only real attraction of The Watch was giving Richard Ayoade some US exposure. One of those guys everybody in the UK knows but only a small portion of the US audience has seen his work.

Jonah Hill is a Mini-me clone of Seth Rogen. Hill once came out at an awards show made wearing the same hair style, glasses, and suit as Rogen. It worked pretty well but for the disparity in height.

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 05:55 PM (kcfmt)

65 :::I don't know, nobody around the AoSHQ really likes the dick and sex jokes.::;

I come here to find refuge from an increasingly coarse culture.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 05, 2012 05:55 PM (wrrFE)

66 Ralphie got off lucky - he looks like a grown man. That Jason Whatshisnuts who played the older brother on The Wonder Years still looks like a child. Creepy.

Fuck you. Just, fuck you.

Posted by: Ricky Schroder at December 05, 2012 05:55 PM (O6q63)

67 One of the jokes involves the guys deciding that Jonah Hill would make an excellent Woman Decoy for infiltration purposes. It's a bit like the Always Sunny joke where someone proposes something patently stupid and then everyone agrees it's a great idea.

Then they begin discussing, with some gravity and seriousness, how far Jonah Hill would be willing to go to maintain his Woman Decoy disguise.

Eh, silly crap like that.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 05:56 PM (LCRYB)

68 Dana Milbank is expecting Beck to do a shocking exposé/documentary on Romney and his daily bath in gold kruggerands while operating his car elevator by remote control.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 05, 2012 05:56 PM (Lxw+T)

69 I cannot remember anything political in it. There's a lot of dirty
stuff in it. I don't want to do spoilers on the dirty stuff as those
are the only jokes not spoiled in the trailers.


Oh, not this movie, ace. If you didn't notice anything, I'm sure the political content isn't enough to annoy me.

"Dirty jokes" is good enough. You don't have to go into details.

It's getting to the point that I seek out toilet humor just to avoid the cheap, ignorant politics.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 05:57 PM (T0NGe)

70 >>>The only real attraction of The Watch was giving Richard Ayoade some US exposure.

the fourth in the quartet, I assume? by the end I appreciated him. Early on I resented him for not being on the same plane as the others, but he grew on me.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 05:58 PM (LCRYB)

71
I guess if we conservatives are going to get in touch with the culture so that we start winning elections we have to start watching shitty movies like "The Watch" so that we can quote the jokes from it and appear to be relevent instead of boring old white men.
amiright?

Posted by: i am mad as hell - period at December 05, 2012 05:58 PM (cgxNI)

72 It is pretty encouraging to learn that a popular actor is on our side. How someone like that survives and gets work in the shit pond of Hollywood is beyond me.

I've largely sworn off anything that comes out of Hollywood but a buddy brought me his copy of "The Wedding Crashers" and insisted that I watch. I laughed my ass off!

Good for Vince Vaughn.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at December 05, 2012 06:00 PM (DAWfC)

73 I told you it was inexplicable!



Wedding Crashers will never stop being funny. And Superbad...well, my buddy suggested that we (him, me, my wife, her friend) watch it. The movie ended and we immediately started dog cussing him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:00 PM (GEICT)

74 I realize I should be a better person and try to watch cleaner stuff. But clean stuff isn't funny, unless it's Steven Wright.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 05, 2012 06:00 PM (85EaA)

75 Well, I mean, I'm trying to give it a positive review. It's worth it, I think. I thought I got my five dollars' worth.



That's actually a helpful review scale. From go see this 9 p.m. opening night in 3D IMAX with all the cosplayers to what the fuck how drunk was I when I put that in my Netflix queue.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:01 PM (Gk3SS)

76 #46

Thing is, Vince Vaughn is really good at playing a douche. If he wants you to hate his character, you will. The problem is, once that effect has been applied to a viewer it may not wear off. Ever.

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:01 PM (kcfmt)

77 But last episode, there were two rich people whose numbers came up
together. One of the first things they discover is that a "militia" is
coming to town.



Obvious Hollywood trope, right?



But it turns out it was a red herring. They were trying to murder each other instead of getting a divorce.


Still funny because the "militia movement" was a 1993 phenomenon (lest we forget that "Alinsky" was first brought up in relation to Hillary and that Clinton had a ton of Marxists that he appointed in the government and judiciary in his first two years) that petered out in the middle of Clinton's second term.

It'd be like doing a show about hippies.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:01 PM (T0NGe)

78 Speaking of phoning it in, this is not the first time Favreau and Vaughan have done that.

I give you the craptastic example of "Swingers."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 05, 2012 06:01 PM (wrrFE)

79 Vince Vaughn was in a serious movie called A Cool Dry Place. Not a bad movie. He's a pretty good actor.

Posted by: polynikes at December 05, 2012 06:01 PM (m2CN7)

80 The only real attraction of The Watch was giving Richard Ayoade some US exposure

Didn't he play lead guitar for 'Cradle of Filth'?

Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2012 06:02 PM (O6q63)

81

I give you the craptastic example of "Swingers."




You sir, are clearly lacking in refinement.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:02 PM (GEICT)

82
"Anyway, they'll be doing a show...in which they will make a documentary about ...making a documentary."


I don't believe the world will end on 12/21, but...the above has to be another signal that the End may be near.


OK, off to read the comments.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 05, 2012 06:03 PM (1Y+hH)

83
Wedding Crashers will never stop being funny.
And Superbad...well, my buddy suggested that we (him, me, my wife, her
friend) watch it. The movie ended and we immediately started dog cussing
him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:00 PM (GEICT)



I liked Wedding Crashers. As far as Superbad, that hits on my can't watch people embarrass themselves thing so I don't think I've seen more than 10 minutes of it.


I really like 40 Year Old Virgin but I cannot watch more than 10 minutes of that at a go without hiding behind a pillow.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:04 PM (Gk3SS)

84 I look forward to the day the vast Empire of Jeff releases its brand of movies. With its resources, talent and outlook they will be instant classics. Of adult theater.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 05, 2012 06:04 PM (Lxw+T)

85 Ace, I fucking LOVE your reviews. You should publish them on a blog or something.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 05, 2012 06:04 PM (q177U)

86 Will the winner of the competition receive a "Major Award"?

Posted by: Nighthawk at December 05, 2012 06:04 PM (paPv4)

87 Yeah, alexthechick, I don't like embarrassment humor either. Never liked The Office for that reason.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:05 PM (T0NGe)

88 Vince Vaughn provided one of the critics' blurbs on the back cover of Jonah Goldberg's new book The Tyranny of Cliches. That's how I knew he's conservative.

Posted by: Eddie Willers at December 05, 2012 06:05 PM (bRdb3)

89 Will the winner of the competition receive a "Major Award"?

I found myself telling my class that I was leaving for a conference in honor of my former adviser who had won a "Major Award".

I guess "the mathematics equivalent to the Nobel Prize" would have been better.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:06 PM (T0NGe)

90 >>>I guess if we conservatives are going to get in touch with the culture so that we start winning elections we have to start watching shitty movies like "The Watch" so that we can quote the jokes from it and appear to be relevent instead of boring old white men.
amiright?

You can do whatever the hell you want, babe.

I continue to be befuddled by cranky old people who are very angry that someone out there might have different interests and tastes than they do.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:06 PM (LCRYB)

91 EoJ you're so money.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 05, 2012 06:06 PM (85EaA)

92 I wonder what a contemporary version of "A Christmas Story" would look
like...they would have to expunge all references to bullying and abusive
behavior. Basically, the entire movie. Ralphie would be so victimized,
he'd be catatonic in a hospital bed.

---

The happy ending would be when he has his first homosexual affair.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 06:07 PM (Hx5uv)

93 :::You sir, are clearly lacking in refinement.:::

Irrelevant. Move to strike.

Jon Favreau doing his impression of the Richard Lewis-type sad sack, soft loser or Vince Vaughan constantly using "money" as noun, verb, adverb, adjective and conjunction: I cannot decide which character I wanted to smash with a ball-peen hammer first.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 05, 2012 06:08 PM (wrrFE)

94 This afternoon at the White House, the President met with influential
progressives to talk about the importance of preventing a tax increase
on middle class families, strengthening our economy and adopting a
balanced approach to deficit reduction.”


patterico
Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 05:43 PM (nqBYe)___ ___ ___ __ ___ ___ _I wonder if they suggested he meet withcongressional delegations rather than wasting time meeting with non-decision makers.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 05, 2012 06:08 PM (1Y+hH)

95 Well I like three things -- Colts, kayaking, and the Constitution, and I think you should like only these three things too.

You don't have to like kayaking. You can like the other two extra to make up for it, if you want.

Posted by: Cranky Old Crotchety Feller Howling In A Blog's Comments at December 05, 2012 06:08 PM (LCRYB)

96 Meh. "Christmas Story" makes me want to barf.

Posted by: Cricket at December 05, 2012 06:08 PM (2ArJQ)

97 I find movies that emphasize dick jokes over boobehs distasteful.

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs are Really SMOD in Disguise at December 05, 2012 06:09 PM (ukOVL)

98 I cannot remember anything political in it. There's a lot of dirty stuff in it. I don't want to do spoilers on the dirty stuff as those are the only jokes not spoiled in the trailers.
Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 05:54 PM (LCRYB)


-------------------------------------


Okay then. I'll watch it. But I'll be morally repulsed while I laugh.

Posted by: Soona at December 05, 2012 06:09 PM (vNrNd)

99 OT: Anyone besides me still wondering when we'll see a "Lil' Obama" cartoon series from Comedy Central? I bet their characterization of Sec of State Lil' Hillary would be a hoot.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 05, 2012 06:09 PM (9eDbm)

100 It'd be like doing a show about hippies.

My wife likes network hourlong dramas. The cops, or FBI, or the government, or whoever, fight against white middle-class militia members almost every week on almost every show.

On NCIS, America's #1 terrorist is a Jewish businessman.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 06:09 PM (I2LwF)

101 I liked Wedding Crashers. As far as Superbad, that hits on my can't watch people embarrass themselves thing so I don't think I've seen more than 10 minutes of it.



It's fucking awful. The only funny scene I remember is with Seth Rogen. He plays a cop and goes to chase down this nerd (kid from Kick Ass) and after like 20 yards is bent double, about to die and wheezes out "the kid's a freak. fastest person alive."


That's it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:10 PM (GEICT)

102 :::EoJ you're so money::

When I scrolled back and read that, I got a rage-boner.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 05, 2012 06:10 PM (wrrFE)

103 I'm a big fan of the dog in Person of Interest.

Actually -- "Elementary" is very good and I feel strange saying that because I thought exactly what everyone thought, "My God, this is going to be awful."

It's not. It's good.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:10 PM (LCRYB)

104 Ace, check this and other IT Crowd clips outs:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27IqVo5-Oc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDA1HUmuuJo

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:11 PM (kcfmt)

105 83 -

I have the same reaction to the type of humor you describe, but I don't recall it in Superbad. Maybe it's because they were clueless teenagers, so...

Somebody I respect was talking about the movie Planes, Trains, and Automobiles recently, and he said it's impossible not to love that movie.

Eh, nope. I hated it. It's related to the people doing stupid things type, in that it's the "whatever can go wrong, will go wrong" type of humor, which makes me wish everyone would drink cyanide so I can go home early with half a box of uneaten popcorn.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2012 06:11 PM (BeSEI)

106 Meremortal, we Know maddow laurence O'donell and Sharpton would never make those suggestions.

They will just get the talking points from their Progressive leadership ad repeat it 24/7 until the Republicans cave , which might take about a week.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:11 PM (nqBYe)

107 Yeah, alexthechick, I don't like embarrassment humor either. Never liked The Office for that reason.


Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:05 PM (T0NGe)



I hate The Office, both versions, with a passion.


The reason that I can watch 40 Year Old Virgin is that it's not mean spirited. Actually, there's something very kindhearted at the center of it. The guys really do want Steve Carrell's character to be happy, they just have no freaking clue how to go about it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:11 PM (Gk3SS)

108 That "Ralphie" kid grew up to be a real cutie. He grew into those big blue eyes, now "hypno-blue".

Posted by: SarahW at December 05, 2012 06:12 PM (LYwCh)

109 I continue to be befuddled by cranky old people who are very angry that someone out there might have different interests and tastes than they do.

Why carry all that baggage? I don't care what other people like.

I'm not old, either, but time onlt moves one direction

Posted by: fluffy, befuddling angry person at December 05, 2012 06:12 PM (O6q63)

110 And Ben Stiller needs a hot fireplace poker shoved in his eye.

Why?

I don't care, that's why.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2012 06:12 PM (BeSEI)

111 Swingers actually have me one piece of advice that I used to good effect in my youth: be the rated R guy, not the PG-13 guy.

Now that I am married, I talk like the rated X guy but I live like the rated G guy.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 06:13 PM (I2LwF)

112 >>>That "Ralphie" kid grew up to be a real cutie. He grew into those big blue eyes, now "hypno-blue".

tell me about it... sigh...

Posted by: ace, lost in Ralphie's eyes at December 05, 2012 06:13 PM (LCRYB)

113 I liked the Fockers.

yeah! so!

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:13 PM (nqBYe)

114 BTW, redlettermedia.com's been teasing their next Plinkett review. I am eager.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:14 PM (T0NGe)

115 All these lefty MSM shills come out with books after each election that they go around shilling on conservative talk shows. People are gracious to them instead of treating them like the little pricks they are.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:14 PM (e/Cti)

116 :::95 Well I like three things -- Colts, kayaking, and the Constitution, and I think you should like only these three things too. :::

What was that movie the Naked Gun writer/directors did that was supposed to be this hilarious slapstick comedy lampooning Michael Moore? Kelsey Grammer was in it.

I saw that trailer and was like Oh, please don't.

Same with the Atlas Shrugged movie and the Sarah Palin film.

Not. Entertaining.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 05, 2012 06:15 PM (wrrFE)

117 Jon Favreau doing his impression of the Richard Lewis-type sad sack, soft loser or Vince Vaughan constantly using "money" as noun, verb, adverb, adjective and conjunction: I cannot decide which character I wanted to smash with a ball-peen hammer first.


A ball peen hammer? No EoJ, you know what you are? You're like a big bear with claws and with fangs... you know, you got these claws and you're staring at these claws and your thinking to yourself, and with these claws you're thinking, "How am I supposed to kill this bunny, how am I supposed to kill this bunny?" And the bunny's scared Jeff, the bunny's scared of you, shivering.... And you got these fucking claws and these fangs, man! And you're looking at your claws and you're looking at your fangs. And you're thinking to yourself, you don't know what to do, man.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:15 PM (GEICT)

118 Amen Walkers!

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 06:15 PM (I2LwF)

119 I'm like the NC-17 guy that snuck into and unrated documentary and can't find the exit.

Posted by: Eaton Cox at December 05, 2012 06:16 PM (q177U)

120 >>>Why carry all that baggage? I don't care what other people like.

it's not my baggage, it's something I get annoyed at. I can't post a single damn thing about a movie made beyond 1957 without some people whining about it.

Everyone thinks the culture they grew up with in their formative years is the Best Culture. I get that. It's kind of normal.

I just don't want to hear the whining. Yes, for those who were unaware, the world did continue making disposable commercial entertainments even after you turned 30. They did not stop just because you stopped watching.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:16 PM (LCRYB)

121 ...it's still good for a painless few laughs, so long as you don't mind a lot of dick and sex jokes.


****

Works for me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 06:16 PM (piMMO)

122 Eagleheart is hilarious.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 06:16 PM (I2LwF)

123 You're only young once, but you can be immature forever.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 05, 2012 06:17 PM (85EaA)

124 it's not my baggage, it's something I get annoyed at. I can't post a
single damn thing about a movie made beyond 1957 without some people
whining about it.



What I find hilarious is that pre-Code movies were utterly filthy.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:18 PM (Gk3SS)

125 it's not my baggage, it's something I get annoyed at. I can't post a
single damn thing about a movie made beyond 1957 without some people
whining about it.


I think as we get older, we can "see through" the tropes that we couldn't see when we were younger and we often excuse those songs and movies we thought were magical and formative.

I think it's why movie critics are so cynical.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:18 PM (T0NGe)

126 well, racy anyway.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:19 PM (LCRYB)

127
Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:11 PM (nqBYe)


____ _____ ___

Well sure if you are going to be all serious and stuff! You've got it nailed.


d;^)>

Posted by: Meremortal at December 05, 2012 06:19 PM (1Y+hH)

128 If any of you Morons are seeking true high culture, check out Trailer Park Boys.

Posted by: logprof at December 05, 2012 06:20 PM (gBuIk)

129 Everyone thinks the culture they grew up with in their formative years is the Best Culture. I get that. It's kind of normal.

Shut up shut up shut UP!! Pop culture was the most meaningful at the exact moment when I was the most emotionally susceptible to it!!!

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 06:20 PM (I2LwF)

130 blush. sowwy.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:20 PM (nqBYe)

131 It is the solemn duty of True Conservatives to remind everyone that all movies since the introduction of talkies are trash and you're a RINO for watching them.

Ditto with TV shows that came after the Dick Van Dyke premier and any music recorded post-Korean War.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 05, 2012 06:20 PM (SY2Kh)

132 >>> think as we get older, we can "see through" the tropes that we couldn't see when we were younger and we often excuse those songs and movies we thought were magical and formative.

yeah. Youth is believing that Sturgeon* was an old crank. As you get older, you realize he lowballed it.

But this applies to stuff from the past, too. One myth conservatives have is the Golden Age Fallacy.

There have been better ages but get past the nostalgia and there were no "Golden Ages," ever.

* "90% of everything is crap."

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:21 PM (LCRYB)

133 it's not my baggage, it's something I get annoyed at.

You know how if you have to explain the joke, it wasn't funny? That's what I did. Or didn't do.

I'll just gosit over there.

Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2012 06:21 PM (O6q63)

134 Eagleheart is hilarious.


****

Meh.

One AS show I really don't like is Children's Hospital. It just grates on my nerves.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 06:21 PM (piMMO)

135 >>>Shut up shut up shut UP!! Pop culture was the most meaningful at the exact moment when I was the most emotionally susceptible to it!!!

yup, or, as Amish said, had not yet seen that trope, trick, or cliche sixty thousand times so it actually seemed to be sort of good.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:22 PM (LCRYB)

136
Hey! Dont knock cranky old people. You can not begin to understand how deeply satisfying it is when you finally have the bones to yell: GET OFF MY LAWN!

And no, I'm not joking. It's liberating.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:22 PM (e/Cti)

137 I realize I should be a better person and try to watch cleaner stuff. But clean stuff isn't funny, unless it's Steven Wright.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 05, 2012 06:00 PM (85EaA)




Back when HBO was relevant (for about an hour), they gave Buddy Hackett a concert show. He was doing lots of blue humor, which was visibly freaking out this one lady in the audience, so he tried a joke that was just.....a little naughty. He asked her "is that better? can I do something just a LITTLE bit dirtier?" She nodded her assent."These two fags are fucking a dead alligator......"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:22 PM (TIIx5)

138 Same for music. There is much I find utterly repugnant that I can't help wondering if it might have been more attractive if I heard it as a teenager.

Though I like to believe there is no birth date within the span of human existence that would make me appreciative of rap.

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:23 PM (kcfmt)

139 I did watch an old movie for the first time in a long time -- Double Indemnity, which I'd never seen, odd as that is.

It was good. I liked the Chandler cameo and some of the dialogue.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:23 PM (LCRYB)

140 133
You know how if you have to explain the joke, it wasn't funny? That's what I did. Or didn't do.

I'll just gosit over there.
Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2012 06:21 PM (O6q63)




Some smart blogger did a post about how Internet funny is hard and shouldn't be attempted by most.


I think it was AllahPundit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:23 PM (GEICT)

141 Giant robots. That's what you deserve. That's what you get.

Posted by: Michael Bay at December 05, 2012 06:23 PM (wrrFE)

142 Everyone thinks the culture they grew up with in their formative years is the Best Culture. I get that. It's kind of normal.


****

Dude.

I grew up in the 70's and early 80's. There's NO WAY I'm gonna try and convince anyone that disco (despite my love for it) was a primo part of the culture.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 06:24 PM (piMMO)

143 >>>139 I did watch an old movie for the first time in a long time -- Double Indemnity, which I'd never seen, odd as that is. It was good. I liked the Chandler cameo and some of the dialogue. Posted by: ace

Come on! You didn't want to look for a dangerous dame in a tight sweater?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:26 PM (e/Cti)

144 But this applies to stuff from the past, too. One myth conservatives have is the Golden Age Fallacy.



Well ace I do believe there was a golden age of TV back in the 50s and early 60s. But then as the liberals took over Hollywood and the NY studios it started slipping. And I don't know if any of that time was my "formative" years. The 50s for me were a damn hard time.


By the 80s there wasn't anything left on TV worth watching.

As for movies, Hollywood has forgotten how to write original material. Everything is a repop, prequel, of some other type of copy. And what they are copying was shit to begin with.


But they do manage to come up with one good movie about every 5 years.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 06:26 PM (YdQQY)

145 blush. sowwy.
Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:20 PM (nqBYe)Awww, now that's cute. You keep on with yourself, it's all good. I'm just funnin' 'round. (((piss'd off ette.)))

Posted by: Meremortal at December 05, 2012 06:26 PM (1Y+hH)

146 There's a lot of us cranky old people out here and screw the young people with their Own dicks.
Just you wait!

Until we are to expensive to fix or repair daily . An Obamacare plus+
be positive!

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:26 PM (nqBYe)

147 What I find hilarious is that pre-Code movies were utterly filthy.

Gooble, gobble, one of us...

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (T0NGe)

148 Giant robots. That's what you deserve. That's what you get.

Posted by: Michael Bay at December 05, 2012 06:23 PM (wrrFE)



YAAAY! No, I'm not joking, do you have any idea how nosepressed to the window I am going "Is Pacific Rim out yet? How about now? Now? Annnnd now?" Yes, I know that's not Michael Bay but it's alien sea monsters rising up to destroy humanity and giant robots fighting them. It's so nice of del Toro to make a movie just for me.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (Gk3SS)

149 Meremortal, tf-thug.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (nqBYe)

150 And Now, Truman Outs Himself:

I like almost all the Adult Swim comedies. Including Family Guy.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (wweov)

151 >>>Hey! Dont knock cranky old people. You can not begin to understand how deeply satisfying it is when you finally have the bones to yell: GET OFF MY LAWN!

but how many times do we have to read the same categorical dismissal of anything made since 1957?

Let me put it like this: It's fun to discuss preferences and tastes. EoJ is currently on some demented rant about Swingers and that's fine.

But when people keep mistaking their TASTE for some iron law -- and further, an iron law that is indicative of *character* (As in, if you were a real conservative or patriot you wouldn't watch this crap) -- it takes it out of the realm of polite discussion about this movie or that and into the personal realm of insult.

I don't mind when people say "I haven't liked any movies since Psycho" or whatever. That's an opinion, and one that's worth discussing. (Movies are really, really bad the last 20 or 30 years.)

But where I get annoyed is when that opinion keeps getting cast -- as it frequently does -- as some kind of Golden Rule such that if you disagree you're a bad person.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (LCRYB)

152 There is no finer example of Vaughn and Favreau phoning it in than Couples Retreat.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (+lsX1)

153 Some smart blogger did a post about how Internet funny is hard and shouldn't be attempted by most.

I can do internet funny; I just have a low batting average.

Posted by: fluffy at December 05, 2012 06:28 PM (O6q63)

154 gah, thanksforthehug i meant!

hands alex her tea.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:28 PM (nqBYe)

155
I did watch an old movie for the first time in a long time -- Double Indemnity, which I'd never seen, odd as that is.



It was good. I liked the Chandler cameo and some of the dialogue.

----

What? Consequences for bad actions? That is so old fashion.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 06:29 PM (Hx5uv)

156 1957? wow some people up in here ARE really old.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:29 PM (nqBYe)

157
139 I did watch an old movie for the first time in a
long time -- Double Indemnity, which I'd never seen, odd as that is. It
was good. I liked the Chandler cameo and some of the dialogue. Posted
by: ace



Come on! You didn't want to look for a dangerous dame in a tight sweater?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:26 PM (e/Cti)








Not to mention the unbelievably slutty ankle bracelet. Yowza.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:29 PM (TIIx5)

158 But where I get annoyed is when that opinion keeps
getting cast -- as it frequently does -- as some kind of Golden Rule
such that if you disagree you're a bad person.





Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (LCRYB)


Taste is subjective; I've got a *lot* of guilty pleasures and can't stand a lot of stuff that people told me I "had to see or hear".

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 05, 2012 06:29 PM (F7lUa)

159 IDK, there are cultural mile markers. I go to bars and the kids are basically listening to the same rock I listened to in college, just thrown in some modern top-40 shit and rap too.

so, I can get all misty eyed about a piece of music from when i was 13 years old, my mile markers will be (off top of head)
Zeppelin point (even though that stuff came out way before I knew it was there)
Metallica point (even though their best stuff was already done before I became aware)
Nirvana point
Chevelle point (I guess)

things like the rolling stone's mile marker and older crap than that are there but so far back in the distance that it don't matter.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (QxSug)

160 >>>There is no finer example of Vaughn and Favreau phoning it in than Couples Retreat.

I love that movie. I said it. Incredible location + good cast + Vince Vaughn, Shark Attack Survivor + Yet Another Vince Vaughn Video Game Taunting = good enough for owning on DVD. Though I don't own it.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (LCRYB)

161

Anytime for an 'ette. *tips hat*


Later, gators...

Posted by: Meremortal at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (1Y+hH)

162 hands alex her tea.


Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:28 PM (nqBYe)



Thank you pidd's off ettte. Maybe I'll be able to hold that down. Stupid beta meat sack.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (Gk3SS)

163 Ace gets a shout out ... or reacharound if you prefer ..

How Western Civilization Lost It at the Movies

http://tinyurl.com/awo52rp


“Movies really have become awful, haven’t they?” Ace writes. And who can argue with him?

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (wwsoB)

164 YAAAY! No, I'm not joking, do you have any idea how nosepressed to the window I am going "Is Pacific Rim out yet? How about now? Now? Annnnd now?" Yes, I know that's not Michael Bay but it's alien sea monsters rising up to destroy humanity and giant robots fighting them. It's so nice of del Toro to make a movie just for me.



So you linked to the freaked me the fuck movie, but not to this?!?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (GEICT)

165 Once again I would like to point out that when I say that 2001: A Space Odyssey is a horrid, boring, terrible, unlikeable and unwatchable movie, I am stating fact. Not opinion.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 05, 2012 06:31 PM (SY2Kh)

166 >>>Well ace I do believe there was a golden age of TV back in the 50s and early 60s. But then as the liberals took over Hollywood and the NY studios it started slipping.

I'm pretty sure they were liberals then, too, though standards and the Hayes Code might have hidden that.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:31 PM (LCRYB)

167 ok shows that were boring pre 57,

gunsmoke, any western , and aw, , thinking taps nails,.... hee haw?
or is that 60's?

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:31 PM (nqBYe)

168 You'll put your eye out!

Posted by: LASue at December 05, 2012 06:31 PM (gjIQF)

169 Some smart blogger did a post about how Internet funny is hard and shouldn't be attempted by most.





I think it was AllahPundit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:23 PM (GEICT)


Was he addressing Poppin's "Obamaeurism of the Day" with an invitation for MrScribbler to return to the hive?

Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at December 05, 2012 06:31 PM (F7lUa)

170 Well ace I do believe there was a golden age of TV back in the 50s and early 60s.

Not really. There was lots and lots of crap. Now, part of it is that there weren't so many outlets to dilute the talent.

But good stuff survived. Bad stuff has been forgotten.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:32 PM (T0NGe)

171 And speaking of old movies from the 80s. My daughter came over this weekend to help me get drunk. We watched Flash Gordon and Xanadu cranked up loud.


Cheesy and stupid but some of my favorites, particular Flash Gordon. The dialog is so cheesy it kills you and the music by Queen is teh awesome.


But then it wasn't get off my lawn, it was "promise not to blast her into space.....until such time as you grow weary".

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 06:32 PM (YdQQY)

172 >>>Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (LCRYB)

I'm talking about lawns - not post 1957 movies.

Frankly, I think television is much better than film these days though I do watch a lot of film documentaries.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:32 PM (e/Cti)

173 Not really. There was lots and lots of crap. Now, part of it is that there weren't so many outlets to dilute the talent.


Sure there was some crap, but the ratio of good to crap far exceeded anything after then.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 06:33 PM (YdQQY)

174 piss'd off sheesh see I said stupid beta meat sack.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:33 PM (Gk3SS)

175 Another thing age does is make you enraged at seeing characters make the same mistake over and over. Have these characters not seen any movies or TV? Don't they know that idea never executes as intended?

Once in a great while you have a moment where Orlando Jones notes that he is surrounded by white people and roundly rejects the idea they should separate to cover more ground. "I've seen how this works out for the token black guy."

John Scalzi did a book recently called Redshirts, in which the cannon fodder characters of a really bad Star Trek knock-off realize what they are, even becoming aware of Star Trek itself as a forgotten bit of history. Think how many cliches would be sidestepped if one character with a hobby of watching old SF shows saw it coming? (Voyager almost did this but the character had a predilection for Flash Gordon type material rather than stuff he could apply to his own life.)

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:33 PM (kcfmt)

176 alex, awww, damn it, sorry you're feeling unwell.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:34 PM (nqBYe)

177 "170 Well ace I do believe there was a golden age of TV back in the 50s and early 60s.

Not really. There was lots and lots of crap. Now, part of it is that there weren't so many outlets to dilute the talent.

But good stuff survived. Bad stuff has been forgotten.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:32 PM (T0NGe) "

Sure, but the crap was probably more wholesome than today's, well, whatever the antonym of crap would be.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 05, 2012 06:34 PM (GceFv)

178
Some smart blogger did a post about how Internet funny is hard and shouldn't be attempted by most.











I think that was just a throwaway off-topic comment in a post about longbows.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:34 PM (TIIx5)

179 I'm pretty sure they were liberals then, too, though standards and the Hayes Code might have hidden that.

I think the difference is that their liberalism either had to be embedded into the concept or ignored entirely.

They can be cheap and lazy about it now.

You don't even have to deconstruct it, just quote it.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:34 PM (T0NGe)

180 when you said beta meat sack i thought you were speaking of a rino as yet to be discovered in here.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:35 PM (nqBYe)

181
@116 - What was that movie the Naked Gun writer/directors did that was supposed to be this hilarious slapstick comedy lampooning Michael Moore? Kelsey Grammer was in it.
--------------------------------
American Carol.

I saw it. I thought it was amusing, even though I don't generally go for that sort of thing. I typically find the amount of slapstick involved to come across as "trying too hard" (one reason why I don't like Austin Powers).

I suspect that my Dad would love it, though.

Posted by: junior at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (UWFpX)

182 But it is fair to point out that shitty movies these days are shitty for a reason related to this point in time.

Today's movies are getting bloatier and bloatier (read that Hobbit review explaining how much data mining from the silmarillian went into making 3 full hobbit movies out of what should have been a simply 2 hour film) because of the corporate desires to justify $10+ ticket prices or to sell to china or whatever.

shitty movies from the 70's or 80's had their own problems (then again, I posit that Predator was the defining zenith movie in western history, all downhill from there).

Watch point break today and you may be struck at how streamlined the movie is. different era, different product. Or how every David Simon production has the same value system (the wamp wamp ism of his world view)

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (QxSug)

183 So you linked to the freaked me the fuck movie, but not to this?!?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 06:30 PM (GEICT)



Trailer's not out yet. Though everyone's assuming that's what that countdown clock at the Pan Pacific Defense Corps site is for - http://www.panpacificdefense.com/



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (Gk3SS)

184 I'm pretty sure they were liberals then, too, though standards and the Hayes Code might have hidden that.





Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:31 PM (LCRYB)

I don't think the Hayes code was the problem or really hid anything. Red Skelton got in some good one liners back in those days. Google up the Arnie Palmer wife kissing his balls bit.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (YdQQY)

185 Movies are really, really bad the last 20 or 30 years.

Is that true though? It's not like every movie made in the 50's was a cinematic classic. You had some gems buried amid torrents of shit. The existence of Transformers 3 does not erase the presence of Unforgiven or The Last King of Scotland or The Lord of the Rings, etc.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (+lsX1)

186 Cheesy and stupid but some of my favorites, particular Flash Gordon. The
dialog is so cheesy it kills you and the music by Queen is teh awesome.


"Flash! I love you! But we only have 14 hours to save the earth!"

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (T0NGe)

187 I have a strict no-theater rule on all Happy Madison, Apatow, Stiller, and Favreau/Vaughn projects.


Posted by: runninrebel at December 05, 2012 06:37 PM (J4gw3)

188 But where I get annoyed is when that opinion keeps

getting cast -- as it frequently does -- as some kind of Golden Rule

such that if you disagree you're a bad person.

----

A sixty-ish female divorce lawyer with a reputation for ruthlessness who had an office down the hall from mine loved the move Master and Commander. She told me that she could not like anyone who didn't like that move.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 06:37 PM (Hx5uv)

189 I guess I am just saying is that SkyFall and Dark Knight Rises both sucked balls

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 06:37 PM (QxSug)

190 WalrusRex, thanks for reminding me, Master and Commander is the zenith of movie making. But it's based on a 20 volume series of books from the 70s

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 06:38 PM (QxSug)

191
Some chick actress on The Talking Dead complained about the crawling. She hates the crawling...when the female character is on her back trying to get away from the zombie/murderer. I agree. Get up and run or grab something and boink the asshole.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:38 PM (e/Cti)

192 There have been better ages but get past the nostalgia and there were no "Golden Ages," ever.
Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:21 PM (LCRYB)

Um, compare the Best Picture nominees from 1939 (and even half a dozen or so movies from that year that weren't even nominated) to any year in the past three or four decades and get back to us. Things go in cycles. Cultures have high points and then get exhausted. We're exhausted.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 05, 2012 06:38 PM (nZvGM)

193
Hopping in late to say I agree about Elementary. I just ignore the fact that his name is Sherlock and hers is Watson and pretend it is some other detective show not a recasting of Sherlock Holmes and it all works out fine.


I just finished sweeping through that tv show "Scandal" which had some good plot twists, though I had to ignore a whole lot of blatant slams on Republicans, big oil, etc. I think it is ironic that they chose to make the guy a Republican President, like somehow all the same scandals wouldn't be playing out if he were a Democrat. Yeah, right, pull the other leg guys.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at December 05, 2012 06:38 PM (RZ8pf)

194 "185 Movies are really, really bad the last 20 or 30 years.

Is that true though? It's not like every movie made in the 50's was a cinematic classic. You had some gems buried amid torrents of shit. The existence of Transformers 3 does not erase the presence of Unforgiven or The Last King of Scotland or The Lord of the Rings, etc.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (+lsX1) "

You believe that movies should be entertaining, but frankly, I'd settle for them not being atrocious.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 05, 2012 06:39 PM (GceFv)

195 YAAAY! No, I'm not joking, do you have any idea how
nosepressed to the window I am going "Is Pacific Rim out yet? How about
now? Now? Annnnd now?" Yes, I know that's not Michael Bay but it's alien
sea monsters rising up to destroy humanity and giant robots fighting
them. It's so nice of del Toro to make a movie just for me.





Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:27 PM (Gk3SS)








Mixed feelings about that. Yay, splodeysplodey. Boo, Del Toro signing that petition supporting the rapist cockholster Roman Polanski.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:39 PM (TIIx5)

196 "I've seen how this works out for the token black guy."

Let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy!

Posted by: Gwen DeMarco at December 05, 2012 06:39 PM (O6q63)

197 Walrus Rex,
I know people that like joe dirt and I've never got it, I've tried it a couple of times with people I otherwise like , i find my lip[s curling and eyerolls happening even when i try to behave! but i srly don't get 'it' and now i don't want to.

Posted by: piss'd off ettte. at December 05, 2012 06:40 PM (nqBYe)

198 Another thing age does is make you enraged at seeing characters make the
same mistake over and over. Have these characters not seen any movies
or TV? Don't they know that idea never executes as intended?




That's why the first Scream movie was so much fun. The characters knew the rules and still were getting killed off.


Look, I love Deep Blue Sea because cheesy shark movie but also because a. I did not expect what happened with Samuel L. Jackson and b. LL Cool J all fuck no we're not separating I know I'm going to get eaten.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:40 PM (Gk3SS)

199
Okay, would you be attracted to a "dangerous dame"? Does the fact that she is "dangerous" make he even more hawt? I know a lot of guys are attracted to crazy chicks. Fess up!

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:40 PM (e/Cti)

200 galaxy quest, where sam rockwell asked the dudes if they even watched their own show when they were making classic mistakes.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (QxSug)

201 There are a ton of great movies being made. You just have to get off your asses and find them (figuratively speaking, of course).

Posted by: runninrebel at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (J4gw3)

202 >>>Movies are really, really bad the last 20 or 30 years.

My favorite type of movie isn't the classic or prestige drama, it's the well-done crowd-pleasing genre film. Any genre, mystery, action, sci-fi, horror, comedy. I like the genres.

In the past ten years, has Hollywood been making well-done commercial genre films? Seems to me that these are getting pretty bad and pretty lame.

You can point out exceptions, of course. And yes, we have to adjust for the fact that I'm getting older too, and no longer as satisfied with juvenile fare as I once was.

But Hollywood just seems to be dropping the ball on what should be its bread and butter, pumping out low-ambition but well-made commercially-oriented entertainments.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (LCRYB)

203 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (+lsX1)

Exactly.

I think one of the reasons why Ace thinks that movies are shit nowadays is that he sees most of them. Of course they are going to suck for the most part. But they sucked in every "golden age" defended by every cranky old fart around here.

In fact, I think that movies are better now than in the 1940s-1950s.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (GsoHv)

204 >>>Look, I love Deep Blue Sea because cheesy shark movie but also because a. I did not expect what happened with Samuel L. Jackson and b. LL Cool J all fuck no we're not separating I know I'm going to get eaten.

Is that where he hides in the oven and the shark turns it on?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (e/Cti)

205 It's the culture, folks, and Beck gets it. Apparently so does Vaughn.


Posted by: PJ at December 05, 2012 06:42 PM (ZWaLo)

206 1939 was probably the best year ever for good movies in Hollywood. It will never be repeated.




Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 06:42 PM (YdQQY)

207 #148

There was a time when the trailer for that would have had me nearly catatonic in anticipation. I was a huge Godzilla fan as a kid, watching the same movies whenever they came around.When the first Raimi Spider-man came out I told people I'd been waiting more than 30 years for this. Oddly, I didn't actually see it until the DVD was out.

But now I find I don't care so much. If something good is done with a fond old bit of IP I'll get around to downloading it someday. I have such a backlog of video stocked up they could stop TV and movie releases for three years and I'd still have something new to watch every day.

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:42 PM (kcfmt)

208 Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (LCRYB)

Ace, I see four or five theatrical releases each year. You see what? 10 times that? 20? 50? Every time you walk into a movie theater the expectation is high that you will be getting your money's worth.

Filter more aggressively and you will enjoy it more. Shit movies are for when you have the flu or are prepping for a colonoscopy or you are just bored on a rainy weekend.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2012 06:44 PM (GsoHv)

209 "201 There are a ton of great movies being made. You just have to get off your asses and find them (figuratively speaking, of course).

Posted by: runninrebel at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (J4gw3) "

Depends. If you want to be entertained, maybe. If you're concerned about the effect that all the crap that your fellow citizens are consuming is having upon them, and therefore upon the Republic and its future, not so much.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 05, 2012 06:44 PM (GceFv)

210 Is that where he hides in the oven and the shark turns it on?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (e/Cti)



Yup.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at December 05, 2012 06:44 PM (Gk3SS)

211 In fact, I think that movies are better now than in the 1940s-1950s.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM

Technically yes. Artistically? You gotta be kidding

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2012 06:46 PM (wwsoB)

212 But Hollywood just seems to be dropping the ball on what should be its
bread and butter, pumping out low-ambition but well-made
commercially-oriented entertainments.


The studio system had its benefits.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:46 PM (T0NGe)

213 "203 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (+lsX1)

Exactly.

I think one of the reasons why Ace thinks that movies are shit nowadays is that he sees most of them. Of course they are going to suck for the most part. But they sucked in every "golden age" defended by every cranky old fart around here.

In fact, I think that movies are better now than in the 1940s-1950s.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM (GsoHv) "

You're missing the point.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at December 05, 2012 06:46 PM (GceFv)

214
Cheesy and stupid but some of my favorites, particular Flash Gordon. The

dialog is so cheesy it kills you and the music by Queen is teh awesome.

"Flash! I love you! But we only have 14 hours to save the earth!"


Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:36 PM (T0NGe)






"Gordon's ALIVE?"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:47 PM (TIIx5)

215
I watched all the episodes of Boardwalk Empires back to back. There is a lot of sex and violence but the dialogue is superb. I think it gets over looked. Excellent writing.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:47 PM (e/Cti)

216 In fact, I think that movies are better now than in the 1940s-1950s.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2012 06:41 PM

Sure, the 50s had Ed Wood

Ed Wood in today's Hollywood would be an A list producer

So would Roger Corman

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2012 06:49 PM (wwsoB)

217 >>>Ace, I see four or five theatrical releases each year. You see what? 10 times that? 20? 50? Every time you walk into a movie theater the expectation is high that you will be getting your money's worth.

I'm seeing less now. I'm reading more.

Me Five Years Ago would have seen SkyFall the first week. Now, I realize: Look, best case scenario? it's decent. And only that. No rush. Might as well wait for DVD.

But this is part of what I'm talking about: Making a good movie -- I don't mean great; I mean merely good, good enough that people say, "Eh, that was good" -- should not be *nearly* as hard as Hollywood makes it seem.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:49 PM (LCRYB)

218 Technically yes. Artistically? You gotta be kidding

Art is better when done by men in shackles. There's too much freedom in terms of censorship and technology for an artist to restrain his worst impulses.

Some of the best movies these days are kids movies.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:50 PM (T0NGe)

219 I just can't stand how much the movies cost now. When my son and I went to see Wreck-It Ralph at a matinee the cashier (an older guy, not some surly teen) told me the price and it surprised me, it was $8.50 for me. I said, but my son is a child ticket how much is that, and he says $8.25 and then we both just started laughing at the absurdity that the child ticket was only .25 cheaper nowadays.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at December 05, 2012 06:50 PM (RZ8pf)

220 You can point out exceptions, of course. And yes, we have to adjust for
the fact that I'm getting older too, and no longer as satisfied with
juvenile fare as I once was


I'm just saying that the high points in cinema are always exceptions - that's what makes them exceptional. Maybe the gem/shit ratio has declined in the last couple of decades, but I kind of think it's gone the other way - both in movies and TV.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 06:50 PM (+lsX1)

221 Casino Royale was an excellent movie. It really comes down to the writing.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:51 PM (e/Cti)

222 "...there were no "Golden Ages," ever."

Mule. Cookies.

See ace. It's a relative thing. Nowadays it's all crap.

You really want to say the days of actors like Carey Grant, Glen Ford, Henry Fonda, Hal Holbrook (I could go on) are no different than the Pitt, Damon and Clooney types we have today?

Posted by: In Cognito at December 05, 2012 06:51 PM (hDena)

223 Even porn had it's golden age, the 70s with the wocka-wocka guitar background music

Seka and John Holmes should have had stars on the Walk of Fame

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at December 05, 2012 06:51 PM (wwsoB)

224 #198

Scream annoyed me because it violated one of the most sacred rules of the slasher flick: gratuitous nudity by the secondary 'naughty girl' female. Which meant Rose McGowan. When they killed her off without fulfilling that requirement I almost demanded a refund.


My all-time favorite 'she had sex therefore she must die' scene was in one of the Friday the 13th entries. Somewhere after the third one. A couple has just form the best with two backs in a bunk bed, which means lots of room for someone with a harpoon to position themselves below and stab entirely through the bed and the woman. The problem was the fake chest positioned below her head was covered with a poorly chosen flesh-colored cloth the was pilling badly. This lead to much hilarity when someone cried out, "Omigod, she's a Muppet!" and someone else followed with "Oh no! Jason got Miss Piggy!"

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:51 PM (kcfmt)

225 To me, nothing beats the Thin Man movies...Start with "Another Thin Man" and then watch, "Shadow of the Thin Man" and then move along to the other 4.

Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2012 06:51 PM (y2Ojs)

226 >>>Art is better when done by men in shackles. There's too much freedom in terms of censorship and technology for an artist to restrain his worst impulses.

Censorship?

Maybe I'm the odd duck at this garden party but I don't see too many movies that have some really objectionable content.

There's not much sex in Hollywood movies (less and less nudity, for example). There is a fair amount of violence, but that's down a bit from the 80s-90s heyday of action movie violence.

I don't know what you're talking about. If there's an occasional movie that goes into very controversial areas, well, that's only occasional. It's not like your average mall cinema is running that kind of transgressive stuff on its screens.



Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:53 PM (LCRYB)

227 But this is part of what I'm talking about: Making a
good movie -- I don't mean great; I mean merely good, good enough that
people say, "Eh, that was good" -- should not be *nearly* as hard as
Hollywood makes it seem.





Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:49 PM (LCRYB)








Yeah. When I see what a bunch of drug-addled fucktards work in H-wood, I'm pretty sure that all that shit about filmmaking being a difficult process is crap, and that the "creative" side of the business is coasting on the hard work craft of the technical side of the house.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:54 PM (TIIx5)

228 #225

Why wouldn't you start with The Thin Man, then After The Thin Man?

Posted by: epobirs at December 05, 2012 06:56 PM (kcfmt)

229 I don't know what you're talking about. If there's an occasional movie
that goes into very controversial areas, well, that's only occasional.
It's not like your average mall cinema is running that kind of
transgressive stuff on its screens.


Yeah, but they make it. They do it on a small budget and it's subsidized by the mainstream stuff, but they make it.

I'm not talking about Skyfall, etc. but more about Machete, etc.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 06:56 PM (T0NGe)

230 damned disappearing ampersands

I'm joining the Ampersand Liberation Front. Who's with me?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 05, 2012 06:57 PM (TIIx5)

231 lolz, the only objectionable content is pro-americanism.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 06:57 PM (QxSug)

232 >>>You really want to say the days of actors like Carey Grant, Glen Ford, Henry Fonda, Hal Holbrook (I could go on) are no different than the Pitt, Damon and Clooney types we have today?

I'm not a fan of the three modern actors you name but no, I don't think there's a lot of difference, really. They're actors.

I don't get this "They were real men" thing I hear over at Big Hollywood.

Unless the man in question served in WWII. Okay, then he did a manly duty. But if he was just an actor, I don't get the "These were true men, unlike today's pampered prettyboys thing."

I think they were pampered prettyboys too.

And for example: North by Northwest makes no damn sense and is essentially just one (not terrific) set piece linked together with as much logic and narrative thrust as in the average Michael Bay movie.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:57 PM (LCRYB)

233 I remember when comedy movies were actually funny. In the 70s Woody Allen was actually very funny

Mel Brooks turned out Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein

Now a comedy is a few SI swimsuit models with either Ben Stiller or Will Farrell

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2012 06:58 PM (wwsoB)

234
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Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 06:59 PM (e/Cti)

235 >>>I'm not talking about Skyfall, etc. but more about Machete, etc.

not really new though. Machete was conceived as an ad for a nonexistent grindhouse movie. And they made movies like that.

A documentary worth watching is "American Grindhouse."

It really woke me up as to how "clean" movies "used to be."

Sure, the studios abided by the Hayes Code. The wildcats did not. There were a whole bunch of non-Code theaters playing these sorts of movies.

I guess Machete is sort of a studio movie, but... eh, it's independent-ish, like the old exploitation movies were.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 07:00 PM (LCRYB)

236
Why wouldn't you start with The Thin Man, then After The Thin Man?



..You could start where ever you want, and I screwed up and should have said, start with "After the Thin Man". Only because it's my favorite and they're in S.F on New Year's Eve. "The Thin Man" takes place at Christmas..I love them all but those 2 are my favorite of the 6.

Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2012 07:01 PM (y2Ojs)

237
I pretty much stopped seeing movies because I didn't want to spend all that money for "eh" entertainment. I am happy to watch "eh" entertainment at home for free or for a couple of bucks, but not for the price of a ticket, parking, popcorn and small diet coke.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 07:01 PM (e/Cti)

238 223
Even porn had it's golden age, the 70s with the wocka-wocka guitar background music

Seka and John Holmes should have had stars on the Walk of Fame



Posted by: Ron Jeremy at December 05, 2012 06:51 PM

I'm still big ... it's the dicks that got small

Posted by: Ginger Lynn at December 05, 2012 07:01 PM (wwsoB)

239 I don't think there's a lot of difference, really. They're actors.

Posted by: ace at December 05, 2012 06:57 PM (LCRYB)

I think that you miss the formulaic-but reasonably-well-made movie in those genres you like.

I will grant that they are rare today, especially in comedy.

All the more reason to filter aggressively.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2012 07:02 PM (GsoHv)

240 >>>"The Thin Man" takes place at Christmas..I love them all but those 2 are my favorite of the 6.
Posted by: concrete girl

Is that the one with the 60 lb Jimmy Stewart?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 07:04 PM (e/Cti)

241 eh you all sound like montgomery burns in some respect.

I do like the cultural confidence shown in older films. Brits wore stiff upper lips, americans were don drapers, secure and confident., french were bravely in the resistance (in WWII films of course, otherwise they were bravely french), women may not have been pure but they had something.

Posted by: joeindc44 wonders if anyone has any advice for the GOP at December 05, 2012 07:05 PM (QxSug)

242 The sex and violence in today's movies doesn't bother me. My problem is that most of them are simply not "entertaining".


The either concentrate on a PC message, or they slip snarky PC messages in every 5 minutes and along the way there is nothing left for plot and entertainment.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 07:05 PM (YdQQY)

243 re: "I don't know what you're talking about. If there's an occasional movie that goes into very controversial areas, well, that's only occasional. It's not like your average mall cinema is running that kind of transgressive stuff on its screens."

As a mostly '60s-'70s movie fan...yeah.

One reason I barely even bother seeing new movies (except by a handful of directors) anymore is because of how calculated they all are to not twist anybody's panties up. Even the UNRATED!est of today's horror movies is offensively milquetoast compared to the average Oscar-winning drama from when I was a kid.

The last movie I went out of my way to see, because everybody said it ruled and was SO DARK and shit, was the second Batman movie. I'm kind of afraid to say just how shitty I think it was, because of how insane everybody goes if you don't agree it's awesome, so, limiting it to the present topic: "Censorship"-wise, if it came out in the '70s, it would have been rated G.

And nobody would think it was any good, because they'd be comparing it to the average '70s movie. Which was, at the very least, competently assembled.

Posted by: oblig. FLEES IN TERROR at December 05, 2012 07:07 PM (cePv8)

244 Now a comedy is a few SI swimsuit models with either Ben Stiller or Will Farrell

Come on: The Royal Tenenbaums, Thank You For Smoking, Austin Powers, Team America, Shrek, Stuck On You, Snatch, and on and on and on...

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 05, 2012 07:08 PM (+lsX1)

245
Yep, I hate the PC crap they slip into todays movies. There is a lot of propaganda in old movies, too, if you look for it. At least ones that were written by the commies in Hollywood.

Albert Maltz, I'm looking at you!

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 07:10 PM (e/Cti)

246 Guess there must be something wrong with me. North by Northwest made perfect sense. Ad guy gets sucked into spy vs spy due to mistaken identity. Maybe a square peg or two get stuffed into a round hole but it works.
Think of the technology available and take yourself back to the drunk driving scene.
And some of Grant's underrated comedic ability in the drunk at the courthouse scene.
WWII heros? You mean like Audie Murphy and Lee Marvin. And those who were just all American like John stands up with hand over heart Wayne?

Posted by: In Cognito at December 05, 2012 07:10 PM (sr7ZF)

247
I liked Locked, Stocked, & Two Smoking Barrels.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 07:11 PM (e/Cti)

248 Jimmy Stewart is in "After the Thin Man" (my favorite)..Cesar Romero is in "The Thin Man"

Posted by: concrete girl at December 05, 2012 07:11 PM (y2Ojs)

249 Eh, I agree that my parents and grand parents era had plenty of crap and that a lot of the great ones really weren't. Mr. Smith Goes To Washington was a good movie, for example, bunot a ton better than more recent comedies of that type. Some Like it Hot and Bringing Up Baby are good but I honestly don't see a whole lot better about them than The Proposal or another above average romcom.

Posted by: Jenny on the phone at December 05, 2012 07:36 PM (b+8h9)

250 Esquire VV interview from 2006.

Posted by: twoslaps at December 05, 2012 07:39 PM (pbUEP)

251 The best movie in rotation right now has to be Stepbrothers.

Awful movie, bombed in theaters... absolutely hilarious when shown ten times a week on TBS.

Posted by: The Fucking Catalina Wine Mixer at December 05, 2012 08:27 PM (Ys6PL)

252 Well ace I do believe there was a golden age of TV back in the 50s and
early 60s. But then as the liberals took over Hollywood and the NY
studios it started slipping. And I don't know if any of that time was my
"formative" years. The 50s for me were a damn hard time.

With all due, polite respect Vic: bullshit. THIS is the golden age of TV.

Sopranos, The Wire, Deadwood, The Walking Dead, Arrested Development, BSG, Lost, Office (British and/or Steve Carrell years), 30 Rock, Band of Brothers, The Pacific, From The Earth to The Moon, 24, Sherlock, Downton Abbey, Firefly, Dexter, The Shield, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Breaking Bad, Damages, Boss, The Killing (first season, at least), Archer, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Rome, Friday Night Lights, Sons of Anarchy, Rubicon, Justified, Mad Men, Homeland, Rescue Me, Louie, Boardwalk Empire, South Park, Game of Motherfucking Thrones...

... and that's all just off the top of my head.

Television has never been better. We are spoiled, everything is great, and so many don't even care.

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at December 05, 2012 08:42 PM (Ys6PL)

253 Netflix streaming is jam packed full of lefty
documentaries. Leftists sure do love them some documentaries. There's a
doc for any lefty issue you can think of.

Posted by: yinzer at December 05, 2012 05:48 PM (/Mla1)
_________________________
True. But are there any conservative documentaries even made? I know there's 2016 and there was that Fahrenheit 9/11 rebuke a while back by Ron Silver. But aside from that, do they even exit?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 09:14 PM (HDgX3)

254


Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at December 05, 2012 08:42 PM (Ys6PL)

_________________________
100% in agreement with that. 50s TV is garbage. Lucy? Honeymooners? Good lord. If that was the Golden Age of TV I'd hate to see what the Silver or Bronze age looks like.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 09:16 PM (HDgX3)

255 Beck is a genius -- he focuses his battle on winning the culture and making conservative ideas hip; hence, his novels, his own tv network, etc. We have to win the culture back if we want to win civilization back. Right now, the savages rule the roost!

Posted by: chris at December 05, 2012 09:36 PM (qD/o+)

256 ^that's super and all but it'd be nice if the man didn't have such a ridiculously warped view of American history

i know i know, i'm a lefty for saying this (maybe a Woodrow Wilson acolyte?) the dude is kinda a clown though. i'm not an expert but i do have an interest in history and he doesn't know what he's talking about on a ton of stuff

Posted by: JDP at December 05, 2012 09:40 PM (60GaT)

257 "The Watch" was a topic of discussion at our Tday dinner. The consensus- so awful you can't stop watching it. Jonah Hill actually looked embarrassed to be in the film. Ben Stiller uses his Zoolander faces (which was a very funny movie). Vaughn- this reminded me of his performance in the movie with- was it Aniston? Too contrived and over the top. But still- the movie is like a car wreck- you know you should just not look and drive straight ahead- but you can't help yourself- must look! I'm really appreciating Beck lately. That Obama in piss gag was wonderful. This documentary idea is great as well. Conservative ideas need to get into the public arena in a way that the public will actually listen to them- reality shows are a perfect venue. Which reminds me- please take your teens to see Red Dawn and don't dilute the positive America message with details such as the stupidity of the Korean thing. We don't need pure we need effective. Something that Obama and minions understand perfectly.

Posted by: Timwi at December 05, 2012 11:38 PM (pdhxN)

258 Last!

Posted by: L is screaming, show up damn SMOD! at December 06, 2012 01:42 AM (0PiQ4)

259 Also, Ace, this was a total fake out post. I thought you had something to say about Vince Vaughn but instead got a movie review for a movie no one cared about or "Watched."

Posted by: L is screaming, show up damn SMOD! at December 06, 2012 01:45 AM (0PiQ4)

260 Vince Vaughn is a libertarian. He was very much a Ron Paul supporter.

Posted by: DocMerlin at December 06, 2012 09:16 AM (zz9gj)

261 Beck told the truth about George Soros and left Fox on his own volition ---unlike the narrative the Marxist trolls need to advance---Vince Vaughan is like many of us---tired of news that has to first go through some office in Chicago to be censored

Posted by: Roy at December 06, 2012 11:47 AM (/bA08)






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