Merriam-Webster's Top Word of 2012: "Socialism"

But we're not supposed to say Obama's a socialist. That's crazy.

Here's video of Charlie Rose and Norah O'Donnell talking about this awesome new word. Norah's spin is that people were looking up "socialist" to confirm that Obama isn't one.

Posted by: Ace at 11:51 AM



Comments

1 And racist. Don't forget racist.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 05, 2012 11:52 AM (/1U3u)

2 Apply ignition temperature instigator and watch what happens with low interest.

Posted by: maddogg at December 05, 2012 11:53 AM (OlN4e)

3 How about yellow bellied horn swaggler?

Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2012 11:54 AM (jvd3N)

4 Goniffing momzer vontz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2012 11:55 AM (XkWWK)

5 Remember repitition is not always bad.

The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

Posted by: polynikes at December 05, 2012 11:57 AM (m2CN7)

6 Socialism; alt: The type of government that we should let burn

Posted by: Arcadehero at December 05, 2012 11:57 AM (zt7SE)

7 Well that's good; the definition certainly isn't being taught in school.

Posted by: baldilocks via iPad at December 05, 2012 11:58 AM (Su0W2)

8 Why so serious?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 11:59 AM (QupBk)

9

This is old info 2009 data from the WSJ, but it keeps coming back to haunt me.

A tax code that depends on 1% of taxpayers, 144,000 filers, to finance 50% of state income tax revenues has proven to be unsustainable, notwithstanding the liberal dogma that says tax rates don't matter.


If those 144,000 people fled California, and it's possible. California collapses into anarchy.

144,000

Out of, what? 37 million or so?

I'm not sure if it is above or below 144k at this point, a few years later than the piece, but I bet some of those have already left.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574443413742032356.html

sept 30th, 2009



Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 11:59 AM (LpQbZ)

10 Just think of it as this:

All-Together-ism.
_

There. All better.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 05, 2012 11:59 AM (RuUvx)

11 Ass Finger Mc Shitburger III


Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2012 11:59 AM (jvd3N)

12 Obama is a Fascist.

Posted by: Butters at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (NIZHJ)

13 Stephanie Cuntter says Obama campaign never argued Bain was bad.

Link in my sig

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (I2LwF)

14 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (5DR1j)

15 I resolve to use the word Socialism at least 5 times a week in casual conversation this year.

Also Rapscallion, but that's not important right now.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (QupBk)

16 Petition Merriam-Webster. "SCOAMF" is a word.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (da5Wo)

17 The former CEO of Costco said the rich need to pay their fair share, while constructing an elaborate tax shelter. Libs are all hypocrites.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2012 12:01 PM (B/VB5)

18 15
I resolve to use the word Socialism at least 5 times a week in casual conversation this year.



Also Rapscallion, but that's not important right now.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (QupBk)
On the contrary my dear boy, it is of the utmost importance that you explain your pontifications

Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:01 PM (uFY4s)

19 Most of the 144,000 rich taxpayers in CA won't leave -- they're the ones who can afford to live an affluent lifestyle where it rarely rains between April and November, where it never snows, and where you get a few really hot days a year. In essence, they're paying for the E-ticket ride.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 05, 2012 12:01 PM (dZ756)

20 We've passed the point of no return so they can just come out and say what they are: Socialists. And we are now a socialist country. Get used to it: We are now where Europe was 30 years ago.

Posted by: joncelli at December 05, 2012 12:02 PM (CWlPF)

21 Prediction: Word of 2013 will be bankruptcy

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:02 PM (HDgX3)

22
144,000

Out of, what? 37 million or so?



If you haven't already read The Future, you should pick up a copy. I think it's listed under "Atlas Shrugged" on Amazon.

Protip: Don't ride on none of those highspeed trains.

Posted by: entropy at December 05, 2012 12:02 PM (TULs6)

23 17
The former CEO of Costco said the rich need to pay their fair share,
while constructing an elaborate tax shelter. Libs are all hypocrites.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2012 12:01 PM (B/VB5)
I have never been to this hedonistic establishment known as COSTCO, but it sounds as if the prices would be exorbitant.

Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (uFY4s)

24 We are now where Europe was 30 years ago.

We won't be true Socialists until we have National Healthcare and the dole.

Oh ..

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (QupBk)

25 And the word "terrorism" was extremely popular right after 9/11. Doesn't mean terrorism became popular or fashionable in the USA.

Posted by: Olaf at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (t1NLo)

26 21
Prediction: Word of 2013 will be bankruptcy


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:02 PM (HDgX3)
Obliteration would be a more apt term for that era

Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (uFY4s)

27
Get used to it: We are now where Europe was 30 years ago.

That's not true.

We will be where Europe is going around the time they get there.

We ain't got30 years until we look like Europe today. That was called Yesterday.

Posted by: entropy at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (TULs6)

28 15 I resolve to use the word Socialism at least 5 times a week in casual conversation this year.

Also Rapscallion, but that's not important right now.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (QupBk)

Well, you can speak of rapscallion socialism or socialist rapscallions. So that's a twofer. Or a socialist rapscallion twofer, if you like.

Posted by: joncelli at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (CWlPF)

29 25
And the word "terrorism" was extremely popular right after 9/11. Doesn't
mean terrorism became popular or fashionable in the USA.





Posted by: Olaf at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (t1NLo)

_____________________________________________________
It pains me to know I share the same air with someone as mentally deficient as you.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (HDgX3)

30 They try and use it to debunk him being called a socialist. Socialist, communist, marxist, fascist, all forms of collectivist, he's got it all baby!

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (2t6Gz)

31 If you guys don't quote the dunce, I will be protected from his retard rays.

All hail IgnoreUsers@AoSHQ.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (QupBk)

32 WTF? Do any of you even know what socialism really looks like? Ever been to Europe? Germany, Belgium, France, Spain, Poland, Italy?

You guys are numbskulls if you think the USA has gone socialist.

Posted by: Olaf at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (t1NLo)

33 And we are now a socialist country.

I always had this impression that in the USSR, if you refused to work, you didn't get Free Shit...you got shot.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (/kI1Q)

34 I'm hungry. Any DFW Morons near 75 the Bush, and want to go to lunch?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (5DR1j)

35 Stephanie Cuntter says Obama campaign never argued Bain was bad.

I just had an interview with a Bain guy. He was in the Clinton administration.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (/1U3u)

36 A few threads down a poll showed 55% of democrats had a favorable view of capitalism. 53% of democrats had a favorable view of socialism.

And they didn't just vote for a socialist?


They don't understand that even the socialism in europe is funded by capitalism.

Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (R18D0)

37 Socialism: A utopia of equality and prosperity. What's so bad about that?

In related news, Obama is consulting with Rachel Maddox and Al Sharpton on taxation policy so you know that's going to be good.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (Hx5uv)

38 29
25

And the word "terrorism" was extremely popular right after 9/11. Doesn't

mean terrorism became popular or fashionable in the USA.









Posted by: Olaf at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (t1NLo)

_____________________________________________________
It pains me to know I share the same air with someone as mentally deficient as you.


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (HDgX3)
It shall pain you far more to know that part of you was most likely once part of Obama's dandruff

Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (uFY4s)

39 Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:01 PM (uFY4s)



As The Thing once said to Dr. Doom, "You an' Stretcho must be brothers, ya both use five words whenever one would do!"

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:05 PM (wweov)

40 Guys just chill with all this doomsday talk OK. If we tax the rich and get an extra $50B a year in revenue, our $16T debt will go away in like 3 months. Obama knows best,

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:06 PM (HDgX3)

41 @22

And the thread winner before 100 comments!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 05, 2012 12:06 PM (RrD4h)

42 Get used to it: We are now where Europe was 30 years ago.
---
I'm hoping we are where the USSR was 30 years ago, just before the big split up of their map.

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:06 PM (2t6Gz)

43 I got a dangerous warning for that link.


BTW, I hate the term "socialism" as defined by today's liberals who do not like the use of the term "communism" because of the 50 era Soviet Union bad PR. And guess what, liberals write the dictionaries and almost all other books.


The one who originated both terms was Karl Marx. Socialism is an intermediate step in the trip to Marx's supposed utopia of communism.


The US is, and has been a socialist State since the 30s when FDR started implementing his socialist programs. SS is socialsim, labor laws are socialism. Virtually every government program there is ow is socialism.


We are ow working towards the "Communist Utopia" envisioned by Marx now. When the US started getting rid of private property we started marching on the road to communism. We started that in the 60s and are now well on the way.


Obama is putting the cap on it now. He is nationalizing industries as we speak. The press just will not use that term.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:06 PM (YdQQY)

44 15 I resolve to use the word Socialism at least 5 times a week in casual conversation this year. Also Rapscallion, but that's not important right now. Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:00 PM (QupBk)
Same here except my additional word was Misanthrope which seems appropriate.

Posted by: polynikes at December 05, 2012 12:06 PM (m2CN7)

45 Stephanie Cuntter says Obama campaign never argued Bain was bad.

Of course they didn't. Saying it and then refusing to debate or defend the comment is not argueing. Doesn't mean that they didn't make the comment. Just that they didn't argue it.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 05, 2012 12:06 PM (GFM2b)

46 Get used to it: We are now where Europe was 30 years ago.

Could more than 53% of oh, just to select a city at random, Parisians could read in the 1980s.

Zimbabwe.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 12:07 PM (/kI1Q)

47 A piece at Breitbart talks about a Chicago Teachers Union leader caught at a Marxist Conference, giving a speech to them. He denied giving a speech but did admit being there as "I'm allowed to".

Well sure you are buddy. The shame is that you will be lauded by your peers for doing it.

An IL House rep was caught at a Socialist group gathering a couple of years ago (also by Breitbart) accepting an award.

The Enemy is within and doesn't care if we know now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:07 PM (ccXZP)

48
OT: Did anyone watch SOA last night? Did Tig take to the dog because they were previously "romantically" involved?

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 12:07 PM (e/Cti)

49 Norah's spin is that people were looking up "socialist" to confirm that Obama isn't one.

Accept the pudding, Norah.

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 05, 2012 12:07 PM (QGyiB)

50 Olaf is an unrepentant pedophile. He has been dodging the sex offender registry ever since he molested, murdered, and ate several six-year-old boys in the 80s and 90s.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:08 PM (wweov)

51 Two things about this:

First, we weren't supposed to call him a socialist at all. They even claimed it was racist. Yet immediately after his election, Newsweek had the "We are all socialists now" cover.

Second, Americans boarded the socialist train at exactly the wrong time. Socialism is dying in Europe and can't sustain itself. Even the anemic growth isn't sustainable.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 12:08 PM (T0NGe)

52
All hail IgnoreUsers@AoSHQ.

That shit is ridiculous. Talk about epistemic closure. You can't even just ignore the people you want to ignore, you need a filter to make pretend like they don't exist?

Posted by: entropy at December 05, 2012 12:08 PM (TULs6)

53 So if Norah is right, other highly ranked words include "fuckstick," "shithead," "SCOAMF," "cockgobbler," and "assmaster."

Posted by: logprof at December 05, 2012 12:08 PM (gBuIk)

54 Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:08 PM (wweov)

I read it on the Internet, so it must be true!

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:09 PM (5DR1j)

55 My daughter asked for suggestions on her homework assignment for her high school humanities class. She was supposed to find artwork representing the sentence, "It's raining wolves outside my door." I should have suggested, "2013."

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:09 PM (Hx5uv)

56 53
So if Norah is right, other highly ranked words include "fuckstick," "shithead," "SCOAMF," "cockgobbler," and "assmaster."

Posted by: logprof at December 05, 2012 12:08 PM (gBuIk)
Don't forget tubgirl

Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:10 PM (uFY4s)

57 I'm hungry. Any DFW Morons near 75 the Bush, and want to go to lunch?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart


Hmm...

Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2012 12:10 PM (R18D0)

58 She was supposed to find artwork representing the sentence, "It's raining wolves outside my door."

Okay, first: WTF does that even mean?
Second: Day After Tomorrow.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:10 PM (5DR1j)

59 ASHES, ASHES, WE ALL FALL DOWN!



LIB

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 05, 2012 12:11 PM (RrD4h)

60 They didn't tell you the top failed search was "douche". Which people were also searching for, ya know, to confirm Obama was not one.

Posted by: marcus at December 05, 2012 12:11 PM (GGCsk)

61 It's funny- tell a liberal that Obama is a Socialist, and they'll rant about crazy right wing racist rhetoric.

The very next sentence will be "Besides, what's wrong with Socialism?" Every single time.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 05, 2012 12:11 PM (SY2Kh)

62 Also, someone explain this to me:

Why, exactly, is the disease (the fiscal cliff) worse than any of the proposed cures?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:12 PM (5DR1j)

63 BTW - Wonder of the Universe is on Dish 193 right now. SCI. The guy is better than Sagan IMO.

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:12 PM (2t6Gz)

64 Obama is a Malefactress

Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:12 PM (uFY4s)

65
It's a microcosm of America.

tinyurl .com/aepkwg8

Head-On, applied directly to the forehead.

Posted by: entropy at December 05, 2012 12:12 PM (TULs6)

66 Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2012 12:10 PM (R18D0)

That a "yes?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:13 PM (5DR1j)

67 I bet some of those have already left.

I did in 1989. And they came looking for me back then, asking why I wasn't paying my state income tax. I asked them "Where did you find me?" Then they had the unmitigated gall to as if I was ever coming back.

Posted by: Paladin at December 05, 2012 12:13 PM (ycm4Q)

68 You can't even just ignore the people you want to ignore, you need a filter to make pretend like they don't exist?

It saves the wear and tear on my scroll wheel, and my blood pressure. I'm really only using it for those few commenters that have repeatedly proven that they have nothing whatsoever to contribute to a rational discussion. Jon/Olaf/theDunce isn't even good snark fodder.

YMMV, and obviously does.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:13 PM (QupBk)

69 Confirm he's NOT one?

Liberals can't spell stoopid, so that reasoning fails.

Posted by: marcus at December 05, 2012 12:13 PM (GGCsk)

70 I tried to tell everyone!

47
A piece at Breitbart talks about a Chicago Teachers Union leader caught
at a Marxist Conference, giving a speech to them. He denied giving a
speech but did admit being there as "I'm allowed to".

Well sure you are buddy. The shame is that you will be lauded by your peers for doing it.

An IL House rep was caught at a Socialist group gathering a couple of years ago (also by Breitbart) accepting an award.

The Enemy is within and doesn't care if we know now.


Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:07 PM (ccXZP)

Posted by: Senator Joe McCarthy at December 05, 2012 12:13 PM (cv5Iw)

71 I'm hungry. Any DFW Morons near 75 the Bush, and want to go to lunch?



Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart


Where you going and what time?

Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2012 12:14 PM (R18D0)

72 Okay, first: WTF does that even mean?

---

I don't know. I suggest maybe Edvard Munch's the Scream or Pablo Picasso's Guernica. I told here the expression "wolf at the door" was a reference to poverty-induced hunger so anything representing hunger, such as the Great Depression, the Holocaust, or the Holodomor, might be appropriate.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:14 PM (Hx5uv)

73 71
I'm hungry. Any DFW Morons near 75 the Bush, and want to go to lunch?





Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart


Where you going and what time?

Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2012 12:14 PM (R18D0)
Don't, its a trap!!!

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:14 PM (uFY4s)

74 18-29 year olds say they want moar socialism

I can see that, most of them are still living with or off of their parents. The concept of income going towards food, shelter, and transportation rather than toys and nightclubs hasn't sunk in

They'll be paying for it, so let them have it. Don't want to hear them whine when they have to pay for my social security though

Posted by: kbdabear at December 05, 2012 12:15 PM (wwsoB)

75 A liberal friend said that wealthy people will never flee CA because it's so beautiful, blah, blah.

I can't wait till they start.

Even Miss Oprah says she counts the days she stays at her Montecito ranch so she doesn't get taxed as a resident.

Posted by: PJ at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (ZWaLo)

76 @62

It's not, we should go over the cliff, but this is the grand bargain that Bohner worked out so he could get to this crisis that needs to be solved with a grand bargain which will get us to the next crisis which...


Once you understand that the GOP establishment and the Donk establishment are working together to achieve the same objective all will become clear.

ITS ALL A FARCE, ALL OF IT!


It's turtles all the way down!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (RrD4h)

77 Things happen much faster now than they did even 20 years ago. It took Europe 60 years to realize socialism can't last. It'll take us a decade max.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (HDgX3)

78 Here some pearls of wisdom written by men about women on urbandictionary.com (and they repeat it over and over again because they are really clever lads):

"Useless stuff around a vagina"
"An object - not unlike a toaster"
"Inferior lesser sex"
"Cunt who deserves to be slammed and beaten"
"Superficial illogical stupid money-grabbing creature of hate"
"Satan's work to torture innocent perfect men"
"Useful for three things - cooking, cleaning and sucking"
"A woman should be raped and beaten"
"A mobile sperm bank and dishwasher"


there is no problem with urban culture. Thats racisst

Posted by: thunderb at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (Dnbau)

79 I always had this impression that in the USSR, if you refused to work, you didn't get Free Shit...you got shot.>>

This old Soviet joke "We Pretend to Work and They Pretend to Pay Us" indicates that they only shot you if you didn't play the game.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (tf9Ne)

80 Where you going and what time?

Haven't decided, yet. On either of those questions.

There's a Whataburger just south of Spring Creek, I think. I could go for that. I don't have a big budget for lunch, but eating alone is getting boring.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (5DR1j)

81 When California fails and descends into anarchy, cannibalism and people dragging actors through the streets, I''ll watch it on CNN with a large bag of popcorn and some tequila- en fuego!

Posted by: marcus at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (GGCsk)

82 Where you going and what time?



Posted by: Dang at December 05, 2012 12:14 PM (R18D0)
Don't, its a trap!!!


Posted by: Overly stupid moron

Crap. Too late. Anyone know how to get out zip ties?

Posted by: Dang- sent from my pretend iPhone at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (R18D0)

83 Apparently, In Ohlaugh's circle, being a drooling imbecile IS fashionable.

Posted by: maddogg at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (OlN4e)

84 It's funny- tell a liberal that Obama is a Socialist, and they'll rantabout crazy right wing racist rhetoric.

The very next sentence will be "Besides, what's wrong with Socialism?" Every single time.


That's when I would love to point a gun at their head and say "Nothing. I'm from State Central Planning and you have been deemed to be un-needed".
And then watch their squeakhole relax uncontrollably. Good times.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (GFM2b)

85 75
A liberal friend said that wealthy people will never flee CA because it's so beautiful, blah, blah.

I can't wait till they start.

Even Miss Oprah says she counts the days she stays at her Montecito ranch so she doesn't get taxed as a resident.


Posted by: PJ at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (ZWaLo)
100 days and you are a citizen of the state. Makes me wonder if you never stay in any state for very long, which one taxes you?

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (uFY4s)

86 I'm not sure if it is above or below 144k at this point, a few years later than the piece, but I bet some of those have already left.
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I did in 1989. And they came looking for me back then, asking why I wasn't paying my state income tax. I asked them "Where did you find me?" Then they had the unmitigated gall to as if I was ever coming back.
---

Same thing happened to me in 1989. Moved, lived out of state forever more. I go to buy a house 5 years later and find out the Cali Franchise Tax Board has a lien slapped on me for not filing the taxes in the year after I moved. Hours on hold later, and weeks, I had to file a tax form with all zeros on the lines before they'd lift the lien and my bank would loan me the money for the house.

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (2t6Gz)

87 What does "endomorph" mean?

Posted by: Jason Whitlock at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (gBuIk)

88 I can see that, most of them are still living with or off of their parents. The concept of income going towards food, shelter, and transportation rather than toys and nightclubs hasn't sunk in

Neal Boortz used to be a sports agent and he's said that the withholding amounts on the first paycheck were always a freakout moment, especially for athletes who came from welfare/single-mother situations. "You mean people actually pay for that stuff, it's not magic money from the sky?"

Of course, most of them end up voting Democrat anyway.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (B/VB5)

89 Actually, I wish we had socialism. At least Marx claimed to be for "workers".

Neo-marxism ignores the "working" part of "working class".

Now it's all about people getting what they think they're owed.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (T0NGe)

90 Wolf at the door:

The Stone Breakers by Gustave Corbet

Here are men doing back-breaking work to feed themselves in post-Napoleonic France.

The painting itself was done life-sized, in order to challenge the audience to accept these men's real, actual lives, and contrast their lives of suffering with the viewer's own life of opulent comfort in the Academe and Salons of the day.

It was considered scandalous and revolutionary in the political sense.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:18 PM (I2LwF)

91 There's a Whataburger just south of Spring Creek, I
think. I could go for that. I don't have a big budget for lunch, but
eating alone is getting boring.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart

They're out of business. There's a Five Guys burgers just east of there.

Posted by: Dang- sent from my pretend iPhone at December 05, 2012 12:18 PM (R18D0)

92 Can't believe SCOAMF wasn't #1.



OT

Just had my office Christmas potluck luncheon. There's a lady co-worker who I find absolutely stunning in beauty. She's Egyptian Christian (Coptic?) and she's built like she's straight out of a comic book. Long dark hair, olive skin, and a face you can lose yourself in. (Who's Kate Upton?) 4000 years ago, she'd be fucking Pharaohs and launching fleets. Her contribution to today's potluck was......not shitting you.....cake.

Red velvet cake.

Homemade.


Yeah...

Gonna get some more cake now.

Posted by: EC at December 05, 2012 12:18 PM (GQ8sn)

93 The link to it is in my sig.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:18 PM (I2LwF)

94 80
Where you going and what time?

Haven't decided, yet. On either of those questions.

There's
a Whataburger just south of Spring Creek, I think. I could go for that.
I don't have a big budget for lunch, but eating alone is getting
boring.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (5DR1j)
I knew a guy who never understood that name until one day he blurted out in the Car"WHAT A BURGER" I GET IT

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:18 PM (uFY4s)

95 Red velvet cake.

Homemade.


Go on.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:19 PM (QupBk)

96 I told here the expression "wolf at the door" was a reference to
poverty-induced hunger so anything representing hunger, such as the
Great Depression, the Holocaust, or the Holodomor, might be appropriate.


Photos of Michelle Obama's school lunches.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 12:19 PM (/kI1Q)

97 Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (2t6Gz)


Blue states will have an 'exit' tax soon. It will be set high to enserf taxpayers.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 05, 2012 12:19 PM (g2ldK)

98
I'm really only using it for those few commenters that have repeatedly proven that they have nothing whatsoever to contribute to a rational discussion

I suppose theoretically, it could be used responsibly.

I still hate the idea of it. The temptation is too great and getting carried away is too easy.

Posted by: entropy at December 05, 2012 12:19 PM (TULs6)

99 Pictures, EC!!

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:20 PM (I2LwF)

100 BURN!!!

Posted by: Deep Purple at December 05, 2012 12:20 PM (8YWGG)

101 Anybody here still not ignoring me?

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (I2LwF)

102 95
Red velvet cake.



Homemade.



Go on.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:19 PM (QupBk)
Three wordsWHITE CHOCOLATE FOUNTAIN

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (uFY4s)

103 Hey that Whataburger moved across the highway! Good for me.

Posted by: Dang- sent from my pretend iPhone at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (R18D0)

104 Pictures, EC!!

Yeah, gonna be hard to do that.

"Ok, now hold your cake toward the camera...yeah that's it....now smile and gimme a wink....oh yeeeaahhh...."

Posted by: EC at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (GQ8sn)

105 They're out of business.

Nope. They just moved to the South Bound service road, and a little further south. Was there just a couple weeks ago.

Not a huge fan of 5 Guys. They're alright, but nothing to write home about. For a completely different type of food, how do you feel about Free Birds (Campbell, just W of 75)?

Better yet, email me (dedicatedtenther at gmail), so we don't clutter up this oh so scintillating thread.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (5DR1j)

106
100 days and you are a citizen of the state. Makes me wonder if you never stay in any state for very long, which one taxes you?

Hmm, I think I have a good tax avoidance strategy: buy an RV and drive in circles around the Four Corners area all year long. Three months here, three months there...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:22 PM (yiIja)

107 Anybody here still not ignoring me?

No.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (5DR1j)

108 Political discourse circa 2012 sounds increasingly like Mothers of Invention lyrics ( circa Frank Zappa and Jimmy Carl Black )

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (Dll6b)

109 Hmm, I think I have a good tax avoidance strategy: buy an RV and drive
in circles around the Four Corners area all year long. Three months
here, three months there...


How about just moving to Texas or Florida?

Posted by: EC at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (GQ8sn)

110 Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (2t6Gz)


Blue states will have an 'exit' tax soon. It will be set high to enserf taxpayers.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 05, 2012 12:19 PM (g2ldK)
---
Yes, Cali's lien was $1500 with penalties for failing to file. Telling them if fricking moved over a year ago was much like the doctor scene in Idiocracy. "But, why come you didn't file you taxes?"

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (2t6Gz)

111
101
Anybody here still not ignoring me?

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (I2LwF)


I still give your stuff a glance as I'm scrolling by.



Yeah, gonna be hard to do that.

"Ok, now hold your cake toward the camera...yeah that's it....now smile and gimme a wink....oh yeeeaahhh...."


Posted by: EC at December 05, 2012 12:21 PM (GQ8sn)


Seems like you got the idea to me....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (da5Wo)

112 Top search from Olaf's browser:
"Lemonparty", and "George Takei Naked"

Posted by: Boo Boo Octomom at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (pJpLq)

113 104 Pictures, EC!!

Yeah, gonna be hard to do that.

"Ok, now hold your cake toward the camera...yeah that's it....now smile and gimme a wink....oh yeeeaahhh...."



Awww see if you can get a candid shot of her.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (I2LwF)

114 106: there is no alcohol in the four corners. Its an indian reservation

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (uFY4s)

115 Isn't nationalizing industries fascism? Is there any sunlight between socialism, communism and fascism? These three always confuse me.

Posted by: Jmel at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (9tSXa)

116 My wife is a socialist. Or is that "social worker"?

Posted by: Cricket at December 05, 2012 12:24 PM (DrC22)

117 Once you understand that the GOP establishment and the Donk
establishment are working together to achieve the same objective all
will become clear.

---

Damn! I should've chosen the other pill.

Posted by: Neo from the Matrix at December 05, 2012 12:24 PM (Hx5uv)

118 Makes me wonder if you never stay in any state for very long, which one taxes you?

All of them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (/kI1Q)

119 The destruction of the dollar by Obama,Boehner,and Bernanke will change this country and it won't be for the better.

Posted by: Unattorney at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (T1yys)

120 Italy had Il Duce....

We have El Douche....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (lZBBB)

121
but this is the grand bargain that Bohner worked out so he could get to this crisis that needs to be solved with a grand bargain which will get us to the next crisis which...

will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require agrand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis.

Posted by: entropy at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (TULs6)

122 Does anyone know what "Liliputian" means?

Posted by: Bob Costas at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (gBuIk)

123 THE TWO COW PHILOSOPHY OF GOVERNMENT http://is.gd/Nqlx7r

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (QupBk)

124 I've been watching this brit art history doc on the dark ages. The presenter says that it is estimated that 2000 Christians were killed by the Romans, which according to him seems rather low. He then says that during the Spanish Civil War over 7000 nuns, priests and monks were murdered but no one talks about them.

Of course, not. They weren't on the commie side which is idealized by the left, in movies, in books. It was a nice jab by a guy whose family escaped commie Poland: http://goo.gl/Ds1GN

Love ya', Waldy!

Posted by: Walkers! at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (e/Cti)

125 These three always confuse me.

You have two cows.

Communism- The Government takes them and gives you a ration of the milk.
Socialism- The Government takes them and sells you a ration of the milk.
Fascism- The Government takes them and shoots you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (5DR1j)

126
there is no alcohol in the four corners. Its an indian reservation

Shazbot! Foiled again.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (yiIja)

127 EC, tell her your nickname is 'Pharaoh'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (ccXZP)

128 VD is a social disease, ergo socialist:


if I get the clap, you all get the clap. Olaf gets it in his Read Door, mouth, and both ears

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (Dll6b)

129 I have never been to this hedonistic establishment known as COSTCO, but it sounds as if the prices would be exorbitant.
Posted by: Overly wordy person at December 05, 2012 12:03 PM (uFY4s)


And, I think you cannot use credit cards to pay, only cash/debit cards. I know this is how it is in Canada.

But, you can use your credit card to buy the membership, of course.

Low overhead, high prices.

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (LpQbZ)

130 Anybody here still not ignoring me?


*smoochies*

I grok the concept of the Corbet, but it's not really my style.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (/kI1Q)

131 You have two cows.

Communism- The Government takes them and gives you a ration of the milk.
Socialism- The Government takes them and sells you a ration of the milk.
Fascism- The Government takes them and shoots you.


Capitalism- You sell one of the cows and buy a bull.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 05, 2012 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)

132 126

there is no alcohol in the four corners. Its an indian reservation

Shazbot! Foiled again.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (yiIja)
Its the Largest outside of Alaska actually.

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:27 PM (uFY4s)

133 reaR door; comedy fail again........


I blame Bush

Posted by: Wally in Walla Walla at December 05, 2012 12:27 PM (Dll6b)

134 These three always confuse me

It's true, my children do all look alike.

Posted by: Totalitarianism at December 05, 2012 12:27 PM (BrQrN)

135 there is no alcohol in the four corners. Its an indian reservation

Shazbot! Foiled again.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:25 PM (yiIja)

--I bet if you drive around Cumberland Gap and rotate among three states (VA/TN/KY) there's plenty of booze there.

Posted by: logprof at December 05, 2012 12:27 PM (gBuIk)

136 The Two Cows set to video, which I can't see but will link anyway http://youtu.be/YIPDJ1Cc_uw

Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:28 PM (QupBk)

137 121
but this is the grand bargain that Bohner worked out so he could get to this crisis that needs to be solved with a grand bargain which will get us to the next crisis which...

will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require agrand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis which will require a grand bargain to get us to the next crisis.


I snort coke so I can work longer so I can make more money so I can snort more coke so I can work longer so I can make more money so I can snort more coke

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:28 PM (I2LwF)

138 All hail IgnoreUsers@AoSHQ.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at December 05, 2012 12:04 PM (QupBk)


Aye, and they do not even know that we can't see them. They are ranting to an empty room.

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:28 PM (LpQbZ)

139 71
I'm hungry. Any DFW Morons near 75 the Bush, and want to go to lunch?





Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart

**

I always associate 96oz steaks with Texas....I don't why.

Posted by: dananjcon at December 05, 2012 12:28 PM (jvd3N)

140 And, I think you cannot use credit cards to pay, only cash/debit cards. I know this is how it is in Canada.

But, you can use your credit card to buy the membership, of course.

Low overhead, high prices.

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (LpQbZ)

--They take AMEX, because AMEX has a Costco card, which is our primary card in the States in our family.

Posted by: logprof at December 05, 2012 12:28 PM (gBuIk)

141 If Mitt Romney murders cancers patients, makes women carry their rape babies to term, and wants to increase taxes 45 bajillion percent on the poor and middle class so that the rich can pay nothing and buy another Bentley.....


Then God dammit, Obama is a socialist. I'm sick of being the nice guy, next time at my hyper-liberal in-laws i'm just going to come out and say Obama is a fucking socialist and wants to put conservatives in concentration camps. Because making shit up is apparently the way to win elections now.

LET IT BURN!!!!!

Posted by: Cashin at December 05, 2012 12:28 PM (TYEu4)

142 And, I think you cannot use credit cards to pay, only cash/debit cards. I know this is how it is in Canada.

They will take Amex but no others. Here anyway.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at December 05, 2012 12:29 PM (BrQrN)

143 EC, tell her your nickname is 'Pharaoh'.


*lightbulb*

Posted by: EC at December 05, 2012 12:29 PM (GQ8sn)

144 139
71

I'm hungry. Any DFW Morons near 75 the Bush, and want to go to lunch?







Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart

**

I always associate 96oz steaks with Texas....I don't why.
96oz :O

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:29 PM (uFY4s)

145 >> Anybody here still not ignoring me?

Is this a multiple choice question?

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:29 PM (ccXZP)

146 The U.S. government now controls:

90% of home mortgage lending
90% of college student lending
About 40% of auto lending (most people do not realize that the U.S. owns 75% of Ally Bank, formerly known as GMAC, which has the lion's share of the consumer auto lending market and about 80% of the dealer market, which finances the dealers' purchases of cars from the factory)

These are the only three things for which most people will ever borrow money.

But noooo, we're not a socalist country.

Posted by: rockmom at December 05, 2012 12:29 PM (NYnoe)

147 And, I think you cannot use credit cards to pay, only cash/debit cards. I know this is how it is in Canada.

But, you can use your credit card to buy the membership, of course.

Low overhead, high prices.
Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (LpQbZ)

That used to be the policy at the BJ's/Sam's Club/Costco by me but I know the first two now accept CC.

Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2012 12:30 PM (fWAjv)

148 147
And, I think you cannot use credit cards to pay, only cash/debit cards. I know this is how it is in Canada.



But, you can use your credit card to buy the membership, of course.



Low overhead, high prices.

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:26 PM (LpQbZ)



That used to be the policy at the BJ's/Sam's Club/Costco by me but I know the first two now accept CC.
Never, and i mean never, put the words sam club and costco in the same sentence or face my moronic WRATH

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:31 PM (uFY4s)

149
--I bet if you drive around Cumberland Gap and rotate among three states (VA/TN/KY) there's plenty of booze there.

No shit. I'm sure I'll run into more than one cousin. Hell, I might even run into Tickle from the Moonshiners TeeVeelision show.

That guy is a hoot and a holler.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:31 PM (yiIja)

150 Nazis = Socialist

Commies = Socialist

Progressives = Socialist

In just the past 100 years, can someone come up with the total civilian body count caused or experienced under socialist regimes.

How about military dead?

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 05, 2012 12:31 PM (tVTLU)

151 Communism- The Government takes them and gives you a ration of the milk.
Socialism- The Government takes them and sells you a ration of the milk.
Fascism- The Government takes them and shoots you.

Capitalism- You sell one of the cows and buy a bull.

---

Obamunism. The government takes both cows and gives them to minorities as reparations.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:31 PM (Hx5uv)

152
Isn't nationalizing industries fascism? Is there any sunlight between
socialism, communism and fascism? These three always confuse me.

Posted by: Jmel at December 05, 2012 12:23 PM (9tSXa)

Fascism is a term invented by the Germans in the 30s to differentiate themselves from the Marxists in Russia. They hated the Russians with a passion and needed something to separate them. Read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg. Very good explanation of the history.
http://is.gd/ecYBpM

But under today's lights most conservatives define "Fascism" as a trend by the government to take over industry not by nationalizing it, but by regulating every aspect of its operation. The owners may still own it but they have no say-so on how it is run. It is defacto nationalization.





Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:32 PM (YdQQY)

153 150
Nazis = Socialist



Commies = Socialist



Progressives = Socialist



In just the past 100 years, can someone come up with the total
civilian body count caused or experienced under socialist regimes.



How about military dead?

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 05, 2012 12:31 PM (tVTLU)

150 million without Rachel Carson
700 million with Rachel Carson

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:32 PM (uFY4s)

154 Obamunism. The government takes both cows and gives them to minorities as reparations.

Then fines taxes you for not having any cows.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 12:32 PM (/kI1Q)

155
But we're not supposed to say Obama's a socialist. That's crazy.

That's because he's a Marxist. Which is not the same as being one of the Marx Brothers.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at December 05, 2012 12:32 PM (1hM1d)

156 151
Communism- The Government takes them and gives you a ration of the milk.
Socialism- The Government takes them and sells you a ration of the milk.
Fascism- The Government takes them and shoots you.

Capitalism- You sell one of the cows and buy a bull.

---

Obamunism. The government takes both cows and gives them to minorities as reparations.


Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:31 PM (Hx5uv)
Who then pawn the cows for hookers and booze

Posted by: Overly stupid moron at December 05, 2012 12:33 PM (uFY4s)

157 New DVR watches YOU watching TV!

After this most recent election, I am expecting them to sell millions.

http://ars.to/TIUJag

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 05, 2012 12:33 PM (e23o2)

158 Oh wow...

So I googled the lovely Egyptian princess, and I found a bunch of videos of her bellydancing with her friends. She's got them public and everything. Holy shit! This is fucking awesome!!!

Posted by: EC at December 05, 2012 12:33 PM (GQ8sn)

159 The Two Cows set to video, which I can't see but will link anyway>>

Are you sure it's not a 2 cows one bucket pron video?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2012 12:33 PM (tf9Ne)

160 "It's raining wolves outside my door."


eh?

like obots gotv at your door?

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:33 PM (LpQbZ)

161
In just the past 100 years, can someone come up with the total
civilian body count caused or experienced under socialist regimes.

---

You could but then I'd have to kill you.

'Bama's pal Bill Ayers was willing to sacrifice twenty-five million American lives to fundamentally transform America.

Posted by: Socialist Dogooder at December 05, 2012 12:34 PM (Hx5uv)

162 Who then pawn the cows for hookers and booze

Sweet eh?

Posted by: Hardcore Pawn at December 05, 2012 12:34 PM (BrQrN)

163 bye everyone, need to go to chemistry, a class that actually matters

Posted by: OVerly stupid chemist at December 05, 2012 12:35 PM (uFY4s)

164 Fascism is a term invented by the Germans in the 30s

The Duce you say.

Posted by: Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini at December 05, 2012 12:35 PM (/kI1Q)

165 "It's raining wolves outside my door" art:

A still of those i-phone hipster douches from the Samsung commercials.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:35 PM (5DR1j)

166 Making shit up is one of the strategies we must employ to win elections.

Another strategy is committing massive voter fraud in swing states/districts.

A third is to actually do some goddamned GOTV.

And a fourth is to get as much money as possible, legal and otherwise.

If we do not do these four things then we will never win again.

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:35 PM (I2LwF)

167 So I googled the lovely Egyptian princess, and I found a bunch of videos of her bellydancing with her friends. She's got them public and everything. Holy shit! This is fucking awesome!!!

Uhhh...do I really need to ask?

Posted by: Every Single Moron at December 05, 2012 12:36 PM (BrQrN)

168 146 >> The U.S. government now controls:

90% of home mortgage lending
90% of college student lending
About 40% of auto lending <snip>

rockmom, those are some mighty inconvenient facts you are throwing out there. You just got moved up to 'first bus' status in The Great Conservative Roundup Control Act Of 2013.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:36 PM (ccXZP)

169 #141 I am already getting physically sick thinking about a family get-together that is happening in January. My limousine-liberal Obama fangirl SIL is hosting it at her luxury 5-bedroom ski house at Stowe. I had to de-friend her on Facebook after the election because if the sickening crap she was posting about "My Awesome President." Even worse, she was jumping up and down about Elizabeth Warren winning, and when I told her, congratulations, you now have two useless socialist Senators who want to be President and don't give a crap about you, she went into orbit.

If I say that Obama is a socialist in this crowd, I'll get hammered. One BIL is actually sane and conservative, but at Thanksgiving the rest of the fam was dumping all over him for buying a gun and joining a Tea Party group.

But the husband always tells me I am the one that needs to shut up and put away the politics at family gatherings.

Posted by: rockmom at December 05, 2012 12:36 PM (NYnoe)

170 I don't use the word socialist anymore, I have replaced it with "slimy-little-communist-shit-twinkle-toed-cock-sucker." As in, "The President of the United States is a slimy-little-communist-shit-twinkle-toed- cock-sucker."

Posted by: DanInMN at December 05, 2012 12:37 PM (XqeyF)

171 Senate Bill 2013-01-20a 'Affordable Cows for All' Act

Overview - Cows are hereby banned.

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:37 PM (2t6Gz)

172 No no no

You have two cows.

Communism- The Government takes them and gives you a ration of the milk.


Socialism- The Government taxes the hell out of the milk them and gives it to government bureaucrats, cronies, and their supporters.


Fascism- The Government makes you take care of the cows, but tells you how you will do that in every aspect of the operation. The taxes the hell out of and gives it to government bosses.


The US is currently about 15% Communist, and 50-50 Fascist/Socialist. It adds up to more than 100% because the Fascism and Socialism overlap.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:38 PM (YdQQY)

173 So I googled the lovely Egyptian princess, and I found a bunch of
videos of her bellydancing with her friends. She's got them public and
everything. Holy shit! This is fucking awesome!!!

NAME PLZ

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 05, 2012 12:38 PM (e23o2)

174 Hmm, I think I have a good tax avoidance strategy:
buy an RV and drive in circles around the Four Corners area all year
long. Three months here, three months there...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:22 PM (yiIja)

_______________
I know a couple that do that. Their "residence" is S. Dakota which has no income tax. The RV and their car is also registered there since registration is nothing in the state. They spend 1/2 the year traveling in the RV and the other 1/2 at their mini-palace of a house in New Mexico. And yet somehow they are S. Dakota residents for tax purposes. Knowing these two, I'm sure what they do is 100% legit. But it's kind of messed up when they spend practically no time in the state where they are "residents".

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:38 PM (HDgX3)

175 Get used to it: We are now where Europe was 30 years ago.

That's not true.

We will be where Europe is going around the time they get there.

We ain't got30 years until we look like Europe today. That was called Yesterday.


Especially not true. 30 years ago Europe had the United States subsidizing their national defense via NATO. Name the country that subsidizing ours (and don't say China, they're loaning us the $)?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 05, 2012 12:38 PM (kqqGm)

176
Here's video of Charlie Rose and Norah O'Donnell talking about this awesome new word Norah's spin is that people were looking up "socialist" to confirm that Obama isn't one.

Between the poor reading comprehension skillz and non-critical thinking that's taught in the skrewls and the twisting of the language by the Prog/Coms in the MFM, I'd guess there are precious few who would understand what that word really means any more.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:39 PM (yiIja)

177 158 Oh wow...

So I googled the lovely Egyptian princess, and I found a bunch of videos of her bellydancing with her friends. She's got them public and everything. Holy shit! This is fucking awesome!!!



So.... Link?

Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:39 PM (I2LwF)

178 L.I.B. 2013 top word.

Posted by: NCKate at December 05, 2012 12:39 PM (V1oS8)

179 Only cc Costco accepts is the Costco American Express. Outside of that it's cash, check of debit card (and of course EBT).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:39 PM (HDgX3)

180 John Roberts Capitalism -- You have to have 2 cows, or pay a tax.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:40 PM (ccXZP)

181 Obama's parents were Marxist.
The grandparents who raised him were Marxists.
Obama's mentors were Marxists.
All of his buddies were (and still are) Marxists.
Are we to believe this is merely guilt by association?
Not buyin' it.

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 05, 2012 12:41 PM (eYx/w)

182 (and don't say China, they're loaning us leveraging the $)

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 12:41 PM (piMMO)

183 (and of course EBT)

Which is just a debit card drawing on someone else's bank account.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:41 PM (5DR1j)

184 146 >> The U.S. government now controls:

90% of home mortgage lending
90% of college student lending
About 40% of auto lending <snip>



Not true; the government "controls" 100% of all of those through either outright ownership of the program as in college lending or through regulating them to death.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:41 PM (YdQQY)

185 Obama's parents were Marxist.
The grandparents who raised him were Marxists.
Obama's mentors were Marxists.
All of his buddies were (and still are) Marxists.
Are we to believe this is merely guilt by association?
Not buyin' it.


*****

His brand of religion is founded in Marxism

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 12:42 PM (piMMO)

186 And now, a Churchill quote:

“Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm.”
― Winston Churchill

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:42 PM (Hx5uv)

187 177 158 Oh wow...

So I googled the lovely Egyptian princess, and I found a bunch of videos of her bellydancing with her friends. She's got them public and everything. Holy shit! This is fucking awesome!!!



So.... Link?
Posted by: Truman North at December 05, 2012 12:39 PM (I2LwF)


http://tinyurl.com/b7gag8p

Posted by: RWC at December 05, 2012 12:43 PM (fWAjv)

188 I also like to hear the liberal idiots spouting off about the evils of capitalism. We haven't had capitalism in this country since before the 1900s.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:44 PM (YdQQY)

189 In just the past 100 years, can someone come up with the total civilian
body count caused or experienced under socialist regimes.


Upwards of 100 million in the 20th century.

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 05, 2012 12:44 PM (eYx/w)

190 184
146 The U.S. government now controls:

90% of home mortgage lending
90% of college student lending
About 40% of auto lending

________________________

I agree with student loans. But car/home is not really accurate. The govt backs loans, but that's not the same as saying they control it. They're an insurance company more than anything else. They make no profit off of lending, they just pay when people fuck up.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:44 PM (HDgX3)

191 Um...the report said that socialism and capitalism were both the top words.

*sigh* Left Hot Air to get a little less BS.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at December 05, 2012 12:45 PM (Y/HG5)

192
John Roberts Capitalism -- You have to have 2 cows, or pay a tax.

...and your veterinary bill skyrockets because the cows get better health care than you do.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:45 PM (yiIja)

193 Socialism is the "imperfect implementation of collectivist
principles""in the transition of a society to communism" sounds like
Obama to me

Posted by: DANEgerus at December 05, 2012 12:45 PM (e3/KR)

194 (and don't say China, they're loaning us leveraging the $)

I really thought about using that word.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 05, 2012 12:45 PM (kqqGm)

195 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:44 PM (HDgX3)

Ask someone here involved in the banking industry abut regulations. Especially since they passed that last little POS.


If you don't think the government doesn't control all banking and loaning industry in this country you are very ill-informed.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:46 PM (YdQQY)

196 The govt backs loans, but that's not the same as saying they control it

Hahahahaha...
wait. You weren't kidding?

You do realize that, until the passage of ObamaCare, Banking was the most regulated industry in the nation, and that even after the passage of that abominable monstrosity, it's a close thing?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:46 PM (5DR1j)

197 "84
It's funny- tell a liberal that Obama is a Socialist, and they'll rantabout crazy right wing racist rhetoric.



The very next sentence will be "Besides, what's wrong with Socialism?" Every single time.





That's when I would love to point a gun at their head and say
"Nothing. I'm from State Central Planning and you have been deemed to be
un-needed".

And then watch their squeakhole relax uncontrollably. Good times.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at December 05, 2012 12:16 PM (GFM2b)"
These useful idiots just don't understand how freaking arbitrary socialist systems are in practice. It's not as if the evidence for that doesn't exist, either. They seem to think it's going to be in practice as it is in theory. At the same time, they'll swear to you that there are no real Christians because no one puts true Christianity into practice. Well, there are no real socialists, either. Give a socialist a little power and they will abuse it.For all of their ranting about marketing being a giant waste only necessary in a capitalist society, the Left sure does market itself exceedingly well. This resurgence of socialism is beyond stupid, yet here we are. It's like Ford trying to bring back the Pinto and succeeding.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 05, 2012 12:46 PM (FFwP9)

198 Fuck this country. Seriously. Fuck this version of America. Will be easier to pick up the pieces than fix this piece of shit.

Posted by: Mike Jonze at December 05, 2012 12:47 PM (epWQP)

199 As a service to all of you wingnuts I will save you from wasting half an hour of your life. The November 30 Ricochet podcast from Jay Nordlinger, Mona Charen, and Jennifer Rubin can be summarized in a couple of words. MOAR SHINY TALKING. LET'S KEEP TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING WE SAID DURING THE LAST CAMPAIGN, BUT LET'S BE SHINY AND PRETTY WHEN WE DO IT.

They're not for walking away, they're not for giving Democrats everything they want. They're for doing what's best for the country!

What that is of course is something left completely unanswered. It took them 20 minutes to even get around to discussing that our problems may be cultural, not political. If we walk away, they say, will be blamed for all the bad stuff. Simultaneously, they note we were blamed for everything bad in the past, even when it's been the Democrats' fault.

Nevertheless, they are potently convinced that the Great American Public certainly cares about financial insolvency and ruin. There is no such thing as Free Shit Army! You see, we must teach the public about math! And we have to stop being so grumpy!

You know what will teach the public about math? A nice hot fire. Nothing else.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 05, 2012 12:47 PM (Lxw+T)

200 Socialism is a leech that sucks the life out of the economy. At some point, the leech gets large enough, the economy dies.

Posted by: maddogg at December 05, 2012 12:47 PM (OlN4e)

201 His brand of religion is founded in Marxism
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse


Yup. Liberation theology.

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 05, 2012 12:47 PM (eYx/w)

202 You do realize that, until the passage of ObamaCare, Banking was the most regulated industry in the nation,


The nuclear industry is the MOST regulated, but Banking is up there.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:48 PM (YdQQY)

203
"198Fuck this country. Seriously. Fuck this version of America. Will be easier to pick up the pieces than fix this piece of shit. "

Barry has been fulfiling that wish for 4 years now, but he said himself he still hasa lot of work to do. Good thing he is a lazy git.

Posted by: zombie Nicole Simpson at December 05, 2012 12:48 PM (f+TdG)

204 Liberation theology.

BLACK Liberation theology.

Posted by: Accuracy at December 05, 2012 12:48 PM (5DR1j)

205 Oh yeah, that reminds me -- I wish people would quit saying that we are borrowing the money from China to pay for all our new deficit spending. Even Romney said this. It just ain't so. China's share of our debt has actually gone down over the last 3 years.

The only real new buyer of our debt is the Fed. It's a straight up monetization of the new debt, which as we all know amounts to a fresh trillion + every year.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:48 PM (ccXZP)

206 Socialism a little bit is OK, you got a girl a little pregnant son?

Posted by: Clemenza at December 05, 2012 12:49 PM (Q8Pu5)

207 It's not LiB. It's IwB. It will burn. There is nothing that can stop it.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 05, 2012 12:49 PM (Lxw+T)

208 how about something uplifting, or at least with a good beat?

A LIB music post?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rarro42uIVU


Seduced by the fire.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 12:49 PM (piMMO)

209 BTW, the term "capitalism", despite common thought, did not originate with Adam Smith. It too was invented by Karl Marx.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:50 PM (YdQQY)

210 The nuclear industry is the MOST regulated, but Banking is up there.

It may depend on your definition of "most." I know that the nuclear industry has some high hurdles to clear, but I think, at least from a number of regulations/rules/etc., Banks have nukes beat.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:50 PM (5DR1j)

211 I know a couple that do that. Their "residence" is S. Dakota which has no income tax. The RV and their car is also registered there since registration is nothing in the state. They spend 1/2 the year traveling in the RV and the other 1/2 at their mini-palace of a house in New Mexico. And yet somehow they are S. Dakota residents for tax purposes. Knowing these two, I'm sure what they do is 100% legit. But it's kind of messed up when they spend practically no time in the state where they are "residents".
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:38 PM (HDgX3)



yep, the rv crowd does this a lot

and, they have mail services they pay to send them their mail to wherever they happen to be planted...

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 12:50 PM (LpQbZ)

212
Marxist, Fascist, Socialist, eh, he is, he will never admit to it. Until some time later when it doesn't matter.

Even that idiot that wrote that lying lie of a book a people's history of the U.S. didn't admit he was a communist until he was almost dead.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2012 12:50 PM (n/ubI)

213 If you don't think the government doesn't control all banking and loaning industry in this country you are very ill-informed.


Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:46 PM (YdQQY)

________________________________________
If I don't think the govt doesn't control banking, that means I think the govt controls banking. I think you added one extra negative in there
Sure the govt regulates lending. But to say it controls it 100% is ridiculous. If that were the case, anyone anywhere could get any loan they wanted. Lenders still decide who gets a loan and who doesn't (for now anyway).

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:50 PM (HDgX3)

214 I'm kind of bummed that there was no Victory Gin in the Life of Julia.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 05, 2012 12:51 PM (Lxw+T)

215
"Norah's spin is that people were looking up "socialist" to confirm that Obama isn't one."
That's as bad as Republicans believing their own hype during this last election.
The real question:What will those googling 'researchers' decidewrt socialismbeing a good thing...or not?

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at December 05, 2012 12:51 PM (WwR1j)

216 191 >> *sigh* Left Hot Air to get a little less BS.

Posted by: MadisonConservative at December 05, 2012 12:45 PM (Y/HG5)

Welcome to the party, pal. I like your writing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (ccXZP)

217 Obama is no socialist. He's a Unicorner.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (Lxw+T)

218 If that were the case, anyone anywhere could get any loan they wanted.
Lenders still decide who gets a loan and who doesn't (for now anyway).


Not so. That would assume that the government wanted everyone to be able to get loans. However, if you look at people the government wants to get loans (mostly "the poor" and "minorities"), you'll find they're getting them (especially home loans and auto loans) at near 100%.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (5DR1j)

219 Print out another trillion, loan to banks for relending back to the fed at a slightly higher rate. Sounds legit to me.

Posted by: IBT at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (2t6Gz)

220 If only...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJQgwqojirs

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (piMMO)

221 Japan has passed China in the buying of the new debt, but China is still buying.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (n/ubI)

222 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:50 PM (HDgX3)



yeah and I bet you think repeal of Glass-Steagal and Republican laizesfaire caused the collapse too.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)

223 Here honkey former NYT reporter Chris Hedges explains Jeremiah Wright and Jesus:

“[Dr. Wright] bent down and picked up the cross. He felt the weight dig into his shoulders. He placed the crown of thorns on his head. He started down the hard road, walked by the preachers and saints before him. The road walked by Martin and Malcolm. The road that still has the footprints of our Lord. He heard again the words of ridicule and derision, because the Romans were sore, sore afraid. … He embodies within him the power and the glory Satan cannot break. In the gospel of Matthew when Satan left Jesus … angels came to Jesus and anointed Jesus to preach the word of God. And that word tonight, in the preacher before us, lives and breathes, and so do the angels who stand by him.”

. . .

“The Romans, who Dr. Wright correctly reminds us were white — it was
Jesus who was a person of color — don’t like preachers any more today
than they did two-thousand years ago.”

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 12:53 PM (Hx5uv)

224 Japan has passed China in the buying of the new debt, but China is still buying.



Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (n/ubI)

China quit buying and started selling 2 years ago.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)

225 Not so. That would assume that the government wanted
everyone to be able to get loans. However, if you look at people the
government wants to get loans (mostly "the poor" and "minorities"),
you'll find they're getting them (especially home loans and auto loans)
at near 100%.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:52 PM (5D

__________________________________________________

Any data to back this up?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:53 PM (HDgX3)

226
Goniffing momzer vontz.


I don't know what that means but it sounds SCOAMF-ish.

Posted by: eleven at December 05, 2012 12:54 PM (KXm42)

227 yeah and I bet you think repeal of Glass-Steagal and Republican laizesfaire caused the collapse too.


Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)

________________________________
Yeah. That's EXACTLY what I said. <shakes head>

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:54 PM (HDgX3)

228 Any data to back this up?

Not at my finger-tips, but it exists. That's what CRA was about, after all, and somehow in all the finger-pointing after the mortgage bubble burst, it was never repealed. And Dodd-Frank actually made it worse.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:55 PM (5DR1j)

229 You're gonna burn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 12:55 PM (piMMO)

230 18-29 year olds say they want moar socialism
---
They'll be paying for it, so let them have it. Don't want to hear them whine when they have to pay for my social security though


That whine you hear is sweet, sweet music.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 05, 2012 12:55 PM (Lxw+T)

231 My point is you can't even fuck your wife anymore without running into a government regulation.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:55 PM (YdQQY)

232 While the Romans may indeed have been white, I will remind people that they killed Christ at the behest of Jewish church officials, who were the same color as Jesus.

Posted by: maddogg at December 05, 2012 12:56 PM (OlN4e)

233 Google/Bing CRA+Regulations and that is only a small slice of the pie.

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:56 PM (YdQQY)

234 231
My point is you can't even fuck your wife anymore without running into a government regulation.


Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:55 PM (YdQQY)

_________________-
I agree there is too much regulation in banking(and everywhere). But I disagree that this means the govt **controls** lending.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:57 PM (HDgX3)

235 Lenders still decide who gets a loan and who doesn't (for now anyway).>>

They get to decide only once they've lent enough to people of color who don't qualify.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2012 12:57 PM (tf9Ne)

236 Obamunism. The government takes both cows and gives them to minorities as Hamburger

Then ...DOOM

FIFY

Posted by: Paladin at December 05, 2012 12:57 PM (WujO7)

237 Do you know what the word "control" means?

Posted by: Vic at December 05, 2012 12:58 PM (YdQQY)

238 They're all literal-liberal moderates, and Obama's a Rockefeller Republican with whom Reagan would identify more than with us.

As annoying as the Left's worldview is, the more aggravating thing is how they deny it.

Posted by: BuddyPC at December 05, 2012 12:58 PM (jfUIE)

239 232
While the Romans may indeed have been white, I will remind people that
they killed Christ at the behest of Jewish church officials, who were
the same color as Jesus.Posted by: maddogg at December 05, 2012 12:56 PM (OlN4e)
--

Yeah, but they were just acting Roman.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 05, 2012 12:58 PM (wDG5U)

240 But I disagree that this means the govt **controls** lending.

Answer me this: does the US Government (whatever our opinion on the matter) have the power to tell Banks who to lend to, or at least how to weight their approval criteria?

If the answer to that is "yes," the the Government controls lending. The fact they do not exert full control does not mean they do not have full control.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:58 PM (5DR1j)

241 Socialism - the mechanism by which prosperity and freedom are destroyed. See Democrat, Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Waxman, et al.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 12:59 PM (yiIja)

242 221 >> Japan has passed China in the buying of the new debt, but China is still buying.

See link in my sig.

China has actually decreased its holdings of U.S. debt over the past year, dropping from $1.31 trillion in June 2011 to $1.16 trillion a year later, according to the Treasury Department.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 05, 2012 12:59 PM (ccXZP)

243 One thing that conservatives need to get better acquainted with is the language of public goods beyond the military. Libertarians seem to have a better grasp on it and it's very useful in distinguishing between things like "roads" and "financing health care" or "investing" in anything beyond basic research and which can, on occasion, become government's responsibility and which should always be left to civil society or the markets.

Once you subject liberal programs to the criteria of public goods, you see that many of them fail to meet that criteria or meet it in ways that are reflective only of subjective preferences on the part of those staffing the various bureaucracies. The greatest success of Leftist propaganda over the past century has been in blurring these distinctions.

But, Republican candidates seem to lack the ability to talk about these distinctions coherently and so fall prey to the media swarm around terms like "socialism", which is too bad because there is a very rich philosophical discussion around these terms going back ages which can be used to rebut the idea that every policy the Left would like to enact is analogous to the government providing roads and bridges. At the very least, GOP candidates could say "We don't object to the government providing goods that everyone can use, what we object to is the government picking specific classes of citizens and providing things only they can use" and then go on to make the case that the first part of that sentence doesn't imply nationalization of industries because that would require violating people's right to private property and free association.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 05, 2012 01:00 PM (FFwP9)

244 My point is you can't even fuck your wife anymore without running into a government regulation.

Young boys, OTOH...fuck away with their blessing.

Posted by: Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini at December 05, 2012 01:00 PM (/kI1Q)

245 This is from 2000:
Mortgage acceptance by race
http://diversitydata-archive.org/Data/Rankings/Show.aspx?ind=35


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:00 PM (HDgX3)

246 What does "endomorph" mean?
Posted by: Jason Whitlock at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (gBuIk)


Big boned.

Posted by: E. Cartman at December 05, 2012 01:00 PM (tQHzJ)

247
Dave Brubeck, RIP.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 05, 2012 01:01 PM (tOkJB)

248 Off, Fascist sock.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at December 05, 2012 01:01 PM (/kI1Q)

249 What does "endomorph" mean?

Posted by: Jason Whitlock at December 05, 2012 12:17 PM (gBuIk)





Big boned.

---

While "United States" just means boned.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 01:02 PM (Hx5uv)

250 Between the poor reading comprehension skillz and non-critical thinking
that's taught in the skrewls and the twisting of the language by the
Prog/Coms in the MFM, I'd guess there are precious few who would
understand what that word really means any more.
--

How many people, especially younger ones, think socialism is similar to social media? It's just being friendly, you know. People cooperating and sharing, stuff like that.

The right needs to start fighting the media and stop letting the left get away with hijacking terminology for their purposes. I'd love to see PACs underwrite public education ads.

Extraneous thought, if the GOP had any brains, they'd have someone keep close tabs on Bill Clinton over the next four years starting right now. Could potentially collect loads of useful pictures, financial dealings info, etc. to help fight Hillary in 2016.


Posted by: Mayday at December 05, 2012 01:03 PM (F3s39)

251 RIP Dave Brubeck.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 05, 2012 01:03 PM (jucos)

252 So lovely Nora looks like she would make fine breeding stock in Obama's New Democratic Socialist States of America People's Union. Dah?

Posted by: Fritz at December 05, 2012 01:03 PM (/ZZCn)

253 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:00 PM (HDgX3)

Yes. For "Conventional Mortgages" which were expressly not to blame in the mortgage bubble. However, almost all of those people who failed to be approved for "conventional mortgages" were then approved for "sub-prime" mortgages.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 01:04 PM (5DR1j)

254 This is from 2000:>>

This from 2012

http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0697.pdf

Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 05, 2012 01:04 PM (tf9Ne)

255 “The Romans, who Dr. Wright correctly reminds us were white — it was
Jesus who was a person of color — don’t like preachers any more today
than they did two-thousand years ago.”

While the Romans may indeed have been white, I will remind people that they killed Christ at the behest of Jewish church officials, who were the same color as Jesus.


"All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? Oh, peace - shut up!"

White People Suck, but whenever they move away, Black™ People bitch.
Who else wants an N-550?

Posted by: BuddyPC at December 05, 2012 01:04 PM (jfUIE)

256 Answer me this: does the US Government (whatever our
opinion on the matter) have the power to tell Banks who to lend to, or
at least how to weight their approval criteria?

If the answer to
that is "yes," the the Government controls lending. The fact they do not
exert full control does not mean they do not have full control.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 12:58 PM (5DR1j)

______________________________________________-
Well using your criteria the govt sets speed limits. Therefore the govt controls driving habits. Therefore the govt controls when and where you can go. Therefore the govt controls your movement. Therefore we live in a dictatorship where the citizens are now allowed to move about freely.

Govt mandates cars have to have seat belts. Therefore the govt controls the auto industry. If regulating = control then yeah the govt controls 100% of everything if that's how you want to look at it.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:06 PM (HDgX3)

257 @250:The right needs to start fighting the media and stop letting the left get away with hijacking terminology for their purposes.
---
This. Liberals win when people don't understand history and where things came from. I was talking to a Social Studies teacher the other day about her civics unit, which uses an NYT article to essentially say that conservatives like old policies whereas liberals are for freedom and progress. I asked if she went into the history of the labels, and I got this really funny look and a negative answer. So much for "critical thinking"...

If you don't teach people to "look under the hood", all you get are propaganda-swallowing yes-men.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 05, 2012 01:07 PM (wDG5U)

258 Since the 1970s I used to think it would take another Pearl Harbor to wake this country up. Some of the country woke up after 9/11 but it wasn't enough to compel them to change course. I refused to believe that the 2008 election was the tipping point. After 2012 I have no choice but to believe that the people who crave liberty and understand what it means to be an American are now outnumbered by those who prefer an entitlement society. I hate it, but there's no way back.

Starve the Free Shit Army.

Posted by: wisenheimer who grows more livid every day at December 05, 2012 01:07 PM (eYx/w)

259 The English language peaked a while back. It's all downhill from here.

I'm thinking 'bout brushing up on my Mandarin.

Posted by: JDTAY at December 05, 2012 01:07 PM (a0nis)

260 If that bee-ach ain't socialist then I ain't a gun nut!

Posted by: Judge_Roy_bean at December 05, 2012 01:08 PM (uPQOl)

261 So I googled the lovely Egyptian princess, and I found a ....

He's pulling your chain, there is no Egyptian Princess. I googled Egyptain hootch belly dancer and go bupkis!

Posted by: Paladin at December 05, 2012 01:08 PM (WujO7)

262

Yesterday, Mark Levin had one of the conservatives that were purged by boner & co.

It was surreal listening to him. He was basically just informed he was no longer on the committee. And, he was in two, one was re: agriculture, and he was a farmer. It made no sense, other than he was Tea Party related/too conservative.

This makes me sick. I'm done with the GOP.

It's over for me.

Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 01:08 PM (LpQbZ)

263 "How many people, especially younger ones, think
socialism is similar to social media? It's just being friendly, you
know. People cooperating and sharing, stuff like that.




Posted by: Mayday at December 05, 2012 01:03 PM (F3s39)"
Yeah, I think this has a lot of truth. I know when I was younger, that's how I thought of socialism. Turns out that in practice, it's not really that. Part of the problem is that young people generally haven't had any experience in making difficult decisions regarding scarce resources, which is what adult life and capitalism are about.
And as for the idea that it was the "wrong people" in charge, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that everyone in the leadership of the Russian Communist movement, even Stalin, was a fuck of a lot smarter than Obama and any of the dipshits who support him. The leadership of the kibbutz movement in Israel certainly were, as were the East Germans.If they could not make it work, the US Left certainly can't.

Posted by: BS Inc. at December 05, 2012 01:08 PM (FFwP9)

264 OT:


Just saw that Dave Brubeck passed away at 91. Had the very good fortune to see him play a few times over the past few years. What beautiful music he made.

RIP Dave Brubeck

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2012 01:09 PM (XkWWK)

265 My God!

Is anyone catching the FNC piece on Verizon right now?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 01:09 PM (piMMO)

266
Extraneous thought, if the GOP had any brains...

That right there is the first problem.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 01:09 PM (yiIja)

267 262

Yesterday, Mark Levin had one of the conservatives that were purged by boner & co.

It was surreal listening to him. He was basically just informed he was no longer on the committee. And, he was in two, one was re: agriculture, and he was a farmer. It made no sense, other than he was Tea Party related/too conservative.

This makes me sick. I'm done with the GOP.

It's over for me.
Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 01:08 PM (LpQbZ)


I heard it as well.

Time for a rally at Capitol Hill and demand Boehner and company step down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2012 01:09 PM (XkWWK)

268
Between the poor reading comprehension skillz and non-critical thinking

that's taught in the skrewls and the twisting of the language by the

Prog/Coms in the MFM, I'd guess there are precious few who would

understand what that word really means any more.

---

Capitalism defined in a single image by a California teacher's union:

"A new animated video released by the California Federation of Teachers
shows the rich “1 percent” urinating on and stealing money from the less
fortunate and middle class. The purpose of the video is to explain
“economic inequality” and the need for wealthy people to pay their “fair
share of taxes.”

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bzy262l

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 01:09 PM (Hx5uv)

269 Re: egyptian princess link. That was not what I had in mind at all. Let me make it better:

http://bit.ly/KQ05QY

Posted by: ElKomandante at December 05, 2012 01:10 PM (e23o2)

270 Here's the thing. Since last Summer the Fed has been buying 60% of all treasury paper. That has increased now to somewhere between 70%-90%.
That means that we are already the Soviet United States. Our money is worth nothing and soon there will be no Union to "Socialize".

http://tinyurl.com/9whoucy

Posted by: Daybrother at December 05, 2012 01:10 PM (+paCV)

271 Yes. For "Conventional Mortgages" which were
expressly not to blame in the mortgage bubble. However, almost all of
those people who failed to be approved for "conventional mortgages" were
then approved for "sub-prime" mortgages.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 01:04 PM (5DR1j)
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Since this was from 2000 your point doesn't stand as the bubble started several years later.

This is what makes me crazy about conservatives and the sub-prime debacle....CRA was around from the 1970s. In the 80s and 90s there was no sub-prime craziness. Then in the 2000s, under a Republican president, the sub-prime shit hit the fan. And what is to blame? CRA, a 30 year piece of legislation. Let's ignore the 0% interest rates set by Greenspan. Let's ignore the "owenrship society" pushed by Bush. Let's ignore the CDOs that magically turned junk status notes into AAA rated notes. Let's ignore the MSM that for 5 years pushed the "real estate only goes up" meme. Nope, none of that had anything to do with the bubble/crash. It was all because of CRA.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:11 PM (HDgX3)

272 Well using your criteria the govt sets speed limits. Therefore the govt
controls driving habits. Therefore the govt controls when and where you
can go. Therefore the govt controls your movement. Therefore we live in a
dictatorship where the citizens are now allowed to move about freely.

Govt
mandates cars have to have seat belts. Therefore the govt controls the
auto industry. If regulating = control then yeah the govt controls 100%
of everything if that's how you want to look at it.


Well, yes. Sort of. Your attempt at reducto ad absurdum (sp?) notwithstanding.

The FEDERAL government, does not set speed limits. They can tell States "set the speed limit on road X to Y, or you don't get sweet, sweet government money" but the State Government actually sets the speed limits (and can be over-ridden by local government in the right circumstances).

But, yes, the Government does control (just about) everything. Welcome to the party. Do you really think the Federal government should even have the power to decide whether my car has a seat belt? Seriously? Should the Federal government have the power to tell my local school what it can or cannot serve in the cafeteria?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 01:12 PM (5DR1j)

273 @270

Don't worry, dude, we can always move to Zimbabwe.

Posted by: JDTAY at December 05, 2012 01:13 PM (a0nis)

274 Starve the Free Shit Army.

---

Listen, and understand. That Free Shit Army is out there. It can't be
bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or
remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are
dead.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 01:14 PM (Hx5uv)

275 ashley judd thread up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 05, 2012 01:14 PM (piMMO)

276 I saw Dave Brubeck perform with his kids in Saratoga Springs, maybe 30 years ago. It was awesome. What a talent.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 05, 2012 01:14 PM (jucos)

277 Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:11 PM (HDgX3)

You're about this close (holds fingers close together) to me deciding you're a troll and telling you to F off.

I wasn't "ignoring" anything in the subprime bubble. I was pointing out- relevant to our conversation- that CRA and it associated regulations give the Federal Government complete control (or close enough that the difference is negligible) over lending- especially (in the case of CRA) over mortgage lending. You're the one who came back trying to disprove that statement by referring to "Conventional" mortgages- completely ignoring the subprime mortgages.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 01:15 PM (5DR1j)

278 Posted by: beach at December 05, 2012 11:59 AM (LpQbZ)

Ya know, 144,000 people is a special number to us religious wackos. It's mentioned several times in the Revelation.

Of course, it's not referring to rich people in California. Still interesting, like when your grocery purchase comes to $6.66.

Posted by: Mindy at December 05, 2012 01:16 PM (6jLT3)

279
But, yes, the Government does control (just
about) everything. Welcome to the party. Do you really think the Federal
government should even have the power to decide whether my car has a
seat belt? Seriously? Should the Federal government have the power to
tell my local school what it can or cannot serve in the cafeteria?


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 01:12 PM (5DR1j)

______________________________________________I'd say the feds don't so much control everything as bribe people into accepting their rules. The local school board could tell the feds to fuck off and set its own cafeteria menu. But it wants the federal money so it gives in. Same with states and speed limits.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:19 PM (HDgX3)

280
It was all because of CRA.

You need to do your homework. It really was all because of the CRA. Billy Jeff Cliton put the teeth into that POS law that Jimmah Cahtah stupidly signed. It took a few years, but it eventually did what it was designed to do: collapse our economy, with some help from our enemies.

Click this if you dare:http://tinyurl.com/4veqn8a

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 01:19 PM (yiIja)

281 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at December 05, 2012 01:15 PM (5DR1j)

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LOL. I don't blame the bubble on the CRA therefore I'm a troll. OK whatever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:20 PM (HDgX3)

282 Scandinavia good socialism, USSR bad!*

*except when it was good

Posted by: Lefty Thought Process at December 05, 2012 01:21 PM (60GaT)

283 Listen, and understand. That Free Shit Army is out there. It can't be

bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or

remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are

dead.[/i

I hear you. I'm beginning to think my days of being a law-abiding citizen are over. These people are not my countrymen.

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 05, 2012 01:21 PM (eYx/w)

284 You need to do your homework. It really was all
because of the CRA. Billy Jeff Cliton put the teeth into that POS law
that Jimmah Cahtah stupidly signed. It took a few years, but it
eventually did what it was designed to do: collapse our economy, with
some help from our enemies.

Click this if you dare:http://tinyurl.com/4veqn8a


Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 05, 2012 01:19 PM (yiIja)

_______________________________________________
Right you are. It was all because of the CRA. By the way was Reagan part of this great conspiracy too? Cuz he had 8 years to get rid of CRA.
So the 0% interest rates set by Greenspan (a Reagan appointee) had nothing to do with it? The CDOs had nothing to do with it. People buying 10 houses in Phoenix and Las Vegas with the intention of flipping them 2 months later for a 20% profit had nothing to do with it. Nope. It was all Clinton and Carter's fault.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 01:22 PM (HDgX3)

285 By 2016, my C-word will be the most popular word because it will rule the world, bitches. No, not "capitalism" either.

Posted by: Karl Marx at December 05, 2012 01:23 PM (o44nj)

286 @283

I blowed up the formatting. Where's the barrel?

Posted by: wisenheimer at December 05, 2012 01:23 PM (eYx/w)

287 207 It's not LiB. It's IwB. It will burn. There is nothing that can stop it.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows þr0n is your constitutionally guaranteed entitlement at December 05, 2012 12:49 PM (Lxw+T)
_______________


That's correct.

It will burn.

The "let it burn" assumes we have responsibility--and if we assume responsibility --guess what?

We'll get the blame.

It's going to burn like hot fire from hell and there isn't a thing we can do about it--particularly in the area of foreign policy.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at December 05, 2012 01:24 PM (r2PLg)

288 We can't say socialist comrade? Is bolshevik ok?

Posted by: glorious rainbow utopia at December 05, 2012 01:26 PM (Kflw4)

289 Point of order, Tsar, we're getting the blame no matter what (or did you forget that a plurality of voters are still blaming Bush?).

The proper use of Let It Burn is, "Step back anddon't grab the bucket labeled 'water' that actually contains gasoline."

Posted by: steveegg at December 05, 2012 01:29 PM (o44nj)

290 Listen, and understand. That Free Shit Army is out there. It can't be

bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or

remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are

dead.




Posted by: WalrusRex at December 05, 2012 01:14 PM (Hx5uv)

Don't forget the Bab Breath!

Posted by: Paladin at December 05, 2012 01:31 PM (WujO7)

291 This makes me sick. I'm done with the GOP.

--

Me too, though not really due to Boehner's purge although it's an additional sign and symptom. The GOP has at best looked the other way or at worst assisted in the cover ups of Obama's radical background, Fast and Furious, and Benghazi (to name only a few).

They have refused acknowlege what is happening to and in our country today, to spell out the nature of this administration and to educate the public. They don't do anything about the media bias (suicidal, IMO). Since the GOP has an obvious motivation to do all of these things for their own benefit not to mention for the good of the country, but they haven't, I've concluded they are enabling Obama and the Dems. They sure aren't representing me.

Posted by: Mayday at December 05, 2012 01:35 PM (F3s39)

292 If socialism worked in the real world, I'd be a socialist. I follow the logic and go where it takes me. But, based on historical experience,socialism doesn't work and--since it's based on false premises regarding value and innate characteristics of human nature--it cannot work, ever, so I'm not a socialist.

Glad to know the word is finally coming out in the open. It disgusted me no end that 'mainstream' Republicans would refuse to call out Obama for what he is, what he's always been.

As a heads-up, socialist states are typically ruled by one party. Dissent is...discouraged. Voting is a formality with a preordained outcome. Also (and most importantly), socialism is at complete odds with the US Constitution in purpose and specificintent, both word and spirit. An American citizen is duty-bound to resist a socialist state.

Posted by: troyriser at December 05, 2012 01:53 PM (vtiE6)

293 I agree with student loans. But car/home is not really accurate. The govt backs loans, but that's not the same as saying they control it. They're an insurance company more than anything else. They make no profit off of lending, they just pay when people fuck up.
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 05, 2012 12:44 PM (HDgX3)


If you're 'fortunate' enough to need and get a loan modification, the feds take over your mortgage. The original lender still services it, i.e. that's who you send the payments to but the govt owns it. Oh and they force you to use them as the insurer too for the home owners' policy...

Posted by: Lynne at December 05, 2012 02:06 PM (+Uv5V)

294 GMA and Stephanopolous had a similar response to the story. They all just turned to each other and said "Socialism"? Huh? Well, I wonder why?

This week a slew of polls came out that show majority of Democrats view Socialism positively and soon after Obama was elected in 2008, Hillary, Howard Dean, the entire brain trust of the party were making remarks like, We need some Socialism or Why do people say Socialism is a bad word. So its not like these people don't know what the Dictionary story means.

The truth is they just don't know how to spin it. O'Donnel's statement is almost nonsensical.

"I find it so interesting that Socialism is the number one word, because Obama was 'Labeled' as a Socialist so people wanted to see the actual definition. I find that so interesting".

What the hell does that mean if we assume she is sincere, which she is not?

I find it so very, very interesting that people looked up the definition of "Birth Certificate" because of the Birther accusations. I just find that mind blowingly fascinating.

Charlie Rose hit the eject button on the segment by declaring "I'm definitely not a Socialist".

Eject!

Posted by: TJ King at December 05, 2012 03:49 PM (bTARb)

295 Riddle me this, Ratman: How the fuck is Althouse number 20 on the fucking Best Conservative Blog list? Hummmmmmmm???? What the vampire fucking fuck?

Posted by: maddogg at December 06, 2012 01:40 PM (OlN4e)






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