Caller To Sports Show Claims Jovan Belcher Was An Evil Bully and Thug At 12 Years Old

"This kid was bad news."

Gun culture?

[Update - Andy]: But wait, there's more ...

Angry about woman, Jovan Belcher punched out window, gashed hand in 2006 UMaine incident

(via Slublog)

Posted by: Ace at 08:30 PM

Comments

1 first

Posted by: grease monkey at December 03, 2012 08:31 PM (VSWPU)

2 somebody say something

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:33 PM (Z9EHQ)

3 first again .

Posted by: grease monkey at December 03, 2012 08:33 PM (VSWPU)

4 Stomped yourself in 13 minutes? That's got to be a record Ace. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 03, 2012 08:33 PM (GEICT)

5 Wow.... a Bully? In FOOTBALL????

Say it aint so!

Posted by: This is my suprised face at December 03, 2012 08:34 PM (lZBBB)

6 >>>5 Wow.... a Bully? In FOOTBALL????

80's teen movies...why didn't we listen?!

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at December 03, 2012 08:36 PM (0BPlb)

7 >>>4 Stomped yourself in 13 minutes? That's got to be a record Ace. Lol.

I know. His chances of being called a RINO Candyass were much higher in the previous thread.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at December 03, 2012 08:38 PM (0BPlb)

8 That's only because Belcher had a squirt gun that looked like a Colt 1911.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 08:38 PM (Lxw+T)

9 So you have a sport where hitting people is important, it attracts people who hit people.

Weird, that.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 03, 2012 08:38 PM (/1U3u)

10 Well, from the Examiner article I linked last night, I found the wording interesting re his oath when pledging to the Male Athletes Against Violence Initiative:

"look honestly at my actions in regards to violence and make changes, if necessary."

If necessary?

Is there anyone here who has any doubt as to whether they are committing a violent act?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:39 PM (piMMO)

11 We are all RINO candyasses now!

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 08:39 PM (Lxw+T)

12 link

http://exm.nr/XjZaic

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:39 PM (piMMO)

13 NY Daily News reports that Belcher's mother will raise the orphaned baby girl.

Posted by: boniface ballers at December 03, 2012 08:40 PM (l3RZ9)

14 Wow.... a Bully? In FOOTBALL???? Say it aint so!

Anyone going to place bets that this murderer-in-training was an angel whilst he was playing for the University of Maine ?

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at December 03, 2012 08:41 PM (QTHTd)

15 Here at the HQ, we go from one Dick to another.

Posted by: Wait, what? at December 03, 2012 08:41 PM (z9HTb)

16 13 NY Daily News reports that Belcher's mother will raise the orphaned baby girl.

Because clearly she did an awesome job the first time around.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 03, 2012 08:42 PM (GEICT)

17 Well surprahz, surprahz, surprahz!

Posted by: logprof at December 03, 2012 08:43 PM (gBuIk)

18 Anyone going to place bets that this murderer-in-training was an angel whilst he was playing for the University of Maine ?

****

So says the coach

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:43 PM (piMMO)

19 When it comes to a "culture of violence," i'd have to say that football beats all other 'cultures' by a factor of eleventy.

Posted by: wargasmguy at December 03, 2012 08:44 PM (lIh1y)

20 Congrats to Alexthechick for getting linked in Jay Busbee's massively circulated column on the Costas/Belcher affair.

Posted by: infovore at December 03, 2012 08:44 PM (0llFJ)

21 I resent this deliberate stereotype of Belcher. He was no more a bully than I am. Was.

Posted by: Trayvon Martin at December 03, 2012 08:44 PM (Lxw+T)

22 13 NY Daily News reports that Belcher's mother will raise the orphaned baby girl.

---

If the 'friends' of Murderer Belcher are telling the truth, that there was a custody battle brewing, then I don't see why Murderer Belcher's wishes should be granted by having the baby stay in his family.

I'm sure she's a nice lady, but if I were from Kassandra's family I'd sue Belcher's estate for wrongful death AND seek custody of the baby.

Posted by: Y-not at December 03, 2012 08:44 PM (5H6zj)

23 here is the link
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ nfl-shutdown-corner/bob-costas-advocates -gun-control-sunday-night-football-164208209--nfl.html

Posted by: infovore at December 03, 2012 08:44 PM (0llFJ)

24 @14

Whilst?

WHILST????

CANADIAN!!!!!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 03, 2012 08:45 PM (0fxcV)

25 Travon be fearing the gun culture...

Posted by: george at December 03, 2012 08:45 PM (qBLA2)

26 He wasn't a 12 year old bully. He was just mischievous!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:45 PM (piMMO)

27 So says the coach

According to the caller, Belcher sucked up to authority.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2012 08:45 PM (xSegX)

28
Whilst?

WHILST????

CANADIAN!!!!!!!

****

I say it all the time and I'm nowhere near Canada

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:46 PM (piMMO)

29 OFF Topic, but no overnight thread yet-

Abdullatif Ali Aldosary and a Social Security office.

You'd think at least FOX would mention it.

http://tinyurl.com/bomnabo

Posted by: USMC8541 at December 03, 2012 08:46 PM (v2yk5)

30 Brotha shoulda gone into da music biz.

Posted by: Snoop Dogg at December 03, 2012 08:46 PM (Lxw+T)

31 Way to step on your own (important) post, Ace.

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 03, 2012 08:47 PM (/COnL)

32 That was my first thought, BCochran1981. I have to say it isn't always the parents' fault. My family is living proof, two military kids and one inmate. I guess you could say we were all risk takers. Two of us took productive risks.

Posted by: no good deed at December 03, 2012 08:47 PM (mjR67)

33 Murderer Belcher's friends, but not his team, claim head trauma, too.

I fell while ice skating when I was a teenager. Pretty sure I had a concussion.

So WATCH OUT because I may snap at any moment!

Posted by: Y-not at December 03, 2012 08:47 PM (5H6zj)

34 According to the caller, Belcher sucked up to authority.

****

Which fits the profile.

Those who are abusive to their spouses are extremely manipulative.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:47 PM (piMMO)

35 But I don't think that his being a bully necessarily correlates with his joining that branch of athletics.

When I was in "public school", UK sense, the worst bullies were on the rowing team. The "football" (soccer) and even rugby people were fine.

In college the worst fucking douchebags were in student government. I barely talked to the athletes, and they didn't bother with me. (Excepting the one track runner I took on a date once.)

He was just a violent asshole; he turned out to be good at football, so he ended up in football. But if he hadn't been good at football he'd be a thug anyway.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at December 03, 2012 08:47 PM (QTHTd)

36 vick is to belcher as carter is to zero.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

37 Looks like griffin is the next to snap - if you listen to the personality cult announcers in the game.

All those "scary" hits.

Posted by: george at December 03, 2012 08:48 PM (qBLA2)

38 Travon be fearing the gun culture...

****

With a little more fear he might still be alive.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:49 PM (piMMO)

39 >> Anyone going to place bets that this murderer-in-training was an angel whilst he was playing for the University of Maine

See the update

Posted by: Andy at December 03, 2012 08:49 PM (OZPoa)

40 .... it's been 14 minutes now and no new thread??? Good grief!

Posted by: Yip at December 03, 2012 08:49 PM (/jHWN)

41 In college the worst fucking douchebags were in student government.

In real life, too.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 08:49 PM (Lxw+T)

42 35 Yeah,there are assholes in everything.I hate when people use a case like this to paint all athletes in a sport as violent thugs.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2012 08:49 PM (9XBK2)

43 I've taken some pretty good licks to coconut in my day. Reckon the state should confiscate my guns ,,, just in case ?

Posted by: awkward davies at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (USjX1)

44 Andy : good catch!

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (QTHTd)

45 Apparently Bob Costas surrounds himself with ARMED bodyguards.

Posted by: wargasmguy at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (lIh1y)

46 Gee, I thought only a guy who was a super-duper-nice-as-the-day-is-long kid would grow up and murder his girlfriend to death by shooting her until she was dead.

And Bob Costas, blaming the gun instead of the bullshit thug-lifestyle he promotes weekly on television. Fuck-you, little Bobby.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (R18D0)

47 Guns made him punch out that window.

Posted by: rdbrewer at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (Iyg03)

48 Wow, I'm a Chiefs fan, but it sounds like they did not do due diligence signing this guy. Either that or they rationalized away the college incident.

Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (gBuIk)

49 I'd like to see the statistics on concussions in the Professional Bull Riders circuit and suicide. The football guys keep saying how much bigger the football players are now, and it is contributing to the severity of the concussions. I don't care how big a ball player you are, you don't outweigh a bull.

Posted by: no good deed at December 03, 2012 08:51 PM (mjR67)

50 >> Andy : good catch!

It was all Slu.

Posted by: Andy at December 03, 2012 08:51 PM (OZPoa)

51 According to the caller, Belcher sucked up to authority.

A budding sociopath. I approve.

Posted by: Ted Bundy at December 03, 2012 08:52 PM (z9HTb)

52 the , the coconut .
I can drink or comment , not both .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 03, 2012 08:52 PM (USjX1)

53 are we sure this had nothing to do with obamacare?

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:52 PM (Z9EHQ)

54 We are announcing that we have withdrawn the endorsement offer we previously extended to Mr. Belcher and we wish him the best in his future endeavors.

Posted by: Mars Inc., Makers of Skittles at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (QKKT0)

55 49 Yeah,you are right.Those guys also have a very high incidence of concussions.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (9XBK2)

56 Either that or they rationalized away the college incident.

Posted by: logprof

You mean the fucking little boys in the shower incident? Oh, sorry. Same game, wrong incident.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (R18D0)

57 >> According to the caller, Belcher sucked up to authority.

What about ... uhhh ... leftist father figures

Posted by: Barack O at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (OZPoa)

58 Sounds like the kind of guy you want on the line, a fucking thug who likes to hurt people.

Why is anyone surprised?

Remember the guys in MN that when on the boat ride with hookers? Tattoos , ho's, bling, equals thug.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (wR+pz)

59 If only George Zimmerman was there last Saturday.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (BVkEs)

60 From Peter King's column today:

"I have only one recollection of Belcher before Saturday. On a visit to Chiefs camp in 2010, I was going over the roster with Pioli, and he mentioned how Belcher was exactly the kind of player he wanted to build his team around -- a person of character who played hard and who could be trusted off the field. That's the only image I have of Belcher."

--Scott Pioli really muffed that one.

Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (gBuIk)

61 But...but....but...........the PICTURES immediately put out by the media showing a young couple in love after the birth of their illegitimate child.............WHAT ABOUT THAT, ACE!!!?????

Posted by: I know What i Saw!!!!! at December 03, 2012 08:54 PM (AzwZn)

62 They should've kept a fellow like Belcher away from a violent sport like football.

Posted by: media darling Ray Lewis at December 03, 2012 08:54 PM (2oHJ2)

63 Are there a lot of boxers offing themselves? Talk about concussions.

I think there are pampered little bitches offing themselves.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 08:54 PM (R18D0)

64 Posted by: BCochran1981 at December 03, 2012 08:42 PM (GEICT)

Yeah.... couldn't have ANYTHING to do with the Child getting millions in inheritence, and the Grandma being Guardian... thus in charge of the Mulah...

Posted by: This is my suprised face at December 03, 2012 08:55 PM (lZBBB)

65 But...but....but...........the PICTURES immediately put out by the media showing a young couple in love after the birth of their illegitimate child.............WHAT ABOUT THAT, ACE!!!?????

*****

BULLSHIIIIIIT!

That photo appeared to show a happy young woman with an easy smile. He, however, looked on the verge of a homicidal rage.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:55 PM (piMMO)

66 If Obama had a son, he'd look and act just like Trayvon and Jovan

Posted by: Lobo in Austin at December 03, 2012 08:55 PM (BAnPT)

67 "I have only one recollection of Belcher before Saturday. On a visit to Chiefs camp in 2010, I was going over the roster with Pioli, and he mentioned how Belcher was exactly the kind of player he wanted to build his team around -- a person of character who played hard and who could be trusted off the field. That's the only image I have of Belcher."

--Scott Pioli really muffed that one.
Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (gBuIk)

well in his defense, he is a sports writer - not a good enough athlete to play sports and not a good enough writer for a real job.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

68 Angry about woman, Jovan Belcher punched out window, gashed hand in 2006 UMaine incident

When will we finally get serious about window control? Windows don't make us better persons. Windows only make us feel superior.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 08:56 PM (Lxw+T)

69 never should have gone on maury

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:56 PM (Z9EHQ)

70 Yeah,you are right.Those guys also have a very high incidence of concussions.
Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (9XBK2)But not steroid abuse. They'd make a good control group.

Posted by: Invictus at December 03, 2012 08:57 PM (OQpzc)

71 You can't win an argument with a window.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 08:57 PM (Lxw+T)

72 With effective gun control Jovan Belcher would still be alive among us today, playing with his kid and beating the holy bejeezus out of his babymama.

Posted by: Bob Costas at December 03, 2012 08:57 PM (QKKT0)

73 well in his defense, he is a sports writer - not a
good enough athlete to play sports and not a good enough writer for a
real job.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Well played, sir. Well played. *golf clap*

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 08:57 PM (R18D0)

74 Peter King is another left wing asshole sportwriter.Doesn't know as much about football as he thinks either.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2012 08:58 PM (9XBK2)

75 It was all my fault. He's a good man.

Posted by: That window at December 03, 2012 08:58 PM (R18D0)

76 well in his defense, he is a sports writer - not a
good enough athlete to play sports and not a good enough writer for a
real job.

Posted by: yankeefifth

Well played, sir. Well played. *golf clap*

****

Make that a symphony of a slow clap

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 08:58 PM (piMMO)

77 I love Jovan and I totally deserved it.

Posted by: A Window at December 03, 2012 08:59 PM (QKKT0)

78 White people broke that window.

See? There IS something we did do!

Posted by: Truman North at December 03, 2012 08:59 PM (I2LwF)

79 Posted by: That window at December 03, 2012 08:58 PM (R18D0)

rats

Posted by: A Window at December 03, 2012 08:59 PM (QKKT0)

80 62
They should've kept a fellow like Belcher away from a violent sport like football.

Posted by: media darling Ray Lewis at December 03, 2012 08:54 PM (2oHJ2)
Well, he could play for the Canucks, eh? We need a black guy on the team, eh?
He'd keep his teeth for a least one game, eh?

Posted by: The Frogs at December 03, 2012 08:59 PM (wR+pz)

81 With effective gun control Jovan Belcher would still be alive among us today, playing with his kid and beating the holy bejeezus out of his babymama.

Our sick, pathological addiction to guns has deprived Belcher's girlfriend of valuable rape counseling and the best medical care in the world to treat blunt trauma, guaranteed by the Affordable Care Act.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 09:00 PM (Lxw+T)

82 I think guns should be part of the NFL culture. On the field. Think of the licensing revenue.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 03, 2012 09:00 PM (85EaA)

83 Remember Rae Carruth?He had his baby mama bumped off by a hit man.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2012 09:01 PM (9XBK2)

84 Wait.

Bob Costas said that the NRA is the new KKK?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (piMMO)

85 Now Belcher's girlfriend will never know the tranquility and liberation that comes with free condoms from the government.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (Lxw+T)

86 Remember Rae Carruth?He had his baby mama bumped off by a hit man.

****

He should be rotted by now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (piMMO)

87 Lawsuits against gun dealer and gun manufacturer begin in 5...4...3...2...

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (BVkEs)

88 I never did like the POS Costos (piss poor announcer, midget hypocrite and idiot extraordinaire) , nor Whitlock (gap-toothed and Ball St. loser x2). Yes, football s a violent game, but so are hockey, rugby, boxing, mma and women's bowling, that being said why does it seem that the NFL have more than their share of thugs?

Posted by: auscolpyr at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (BwDfs)

89 Bob Costas is the new Dr. Loveless.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 09:03 PM (Lxw+T)

90 @ 85
Even Costas isn't that stupid. Jason Whitlock said it.

Posted by: boniface ballers at December 03, 2012 09:03 PM (l3RZ9)

91 I might actually watch a football game if they let the players carry handguns on the field. Fuckin' awesome.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:03 PM (R18D0)

92 You know, the first time I saw that headline when Slu sent it, I thought it said Belcher punched out a "widow".

Which is pretty funny when you think about it.

Posted by: Andy at December 03, 2012 09:04 PM (OZPoa)

93 48
Wow, I'm a Chiefs fan, but it sounds like they did not do due diligence
signing this guy. Either that or they rationalized away the college
incident.

Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 08:50 PM (gBuIk)

They did their due diligence on this guy, but the Chiefs felt that their locker room was so strong, that it would take care of a bad apple like him. Lots of teams overestimate how strong their locker rooms are.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 03, 2012 09:04 PM (Zd/NW)

94 >>>Bob Costas said that the NRA is the new KKK?

No, Jason Whitlock did today. That's who Costas was quoting last night.

Posted by: JohnE. at December 03, 2012 09:04 PM (nRTou)

95 I might actually watch a football game if they let the players carry handguns on the field.

And into the announcers' booth.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 09:05 PM (Lxw+T)

96 >> I might actually watch a football game if they let the players carry handguns on the field. Fuckin' awesome.

Ain't life a bitch?

Posted by: Andy at December 03, 2012 09:05 PM (OZPoa)

97 They did their due diligence on this guy, but the
Chiefs felt that their locker room was so strong, that it would take
care of a bad apple like him. Lots of teams overestimate how strong
their locker rooms are.

Posted by: MrCaniac

The Penn State showers come to mind.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:06 PM (R18D0)

98 @95,
The Last Boy Scout?

Posted by: auscolpyr at December 03, 2012 09:06 PM (BwDfs)

99 well in his defense, he is a sports writer - not a good enough athlete to play sports and not a good enough writer for a real job.

No, King said that his only knowledge is second-hand. It was Pioli who tried to have the first-hand assessment.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2012 09:06 PM (xSegX)

100 I thought it said Belcher punched out a "widow"

No, widows are tougher than windows. Windows need only a fist. Widows require at least a 7.65 mm round.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows being American means free rubbers and gun control at December 03, 2012 09:06 PM (Lxw+T)

101 New York looks like they don't want to tackle tonight.

Posted by: Truman North at December 03, 2012 09:06 PM (I2LwF)

102 So another weird thing about this Chiefs guy is that the NFL is really full of squeaky clean model citizens, and that the league really works to keep its reputation by disciplining offenders and purging them from the organization.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 03, 2012 09:07 PM (/1U3u)

103 You know, the first time I saw that headline when Slu sent it, I thought it said Belcher punched out a "widow".

That bitch had it comin' too! (And yeah, it was pretty funny.)

Posted by: Zombie Jovan, deep in a firey pit of hell at December 03, 2012 09:07 PM (R18D0)

104 You see what all these prior violent incidents with Jovan have in common?

No gun.

Still alive.

Posted by: Bob Costas at December 03, 2012 09:08 PM (AzwZn)

105 Calm down with this culture of violence stuff. Next you will be saying that porn causes rape.

There is a difference between violence in sports or the movies vs. violence in life.

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at December 03, 2012 09:08 PM (zZJJp)

106
well in his defense, he is a sports writer - not a good enough athlete to play sports and not a good enough writer for a real job.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

--I was criticizing Pioli. King has written boneheaded things before, but he did not sign Belcher.

Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 09:09 PM (gBuIk)

107 Windows have a self defense mechanism.

Posted by: Lobo in Austin at December 03, 2012 09:09 PM (BAnPT)

108 86
Remember Rae Carruth?He had his baby mama bumped off by a hit man.

****

He should be rotted by now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (piMMO)

No, but his asshole is a lot bigger.

http://tinyurl.com/27wmrdg

Posted by: Bubba, your new cell mate at December 03, 2012 09:09 PM (wR+pz)

109 What a weird play!

Posted by: Truman North at December 03, 2012 09:10 PM (I2LwF)

110 You hit me and I'll cut you!

Posted by: That window at December 03, 2012 09:10 PM (R18D0)

111 >> The Last Boy Scout?

Yup.

Posted by: Andy at December 03, 2012 09:11 PM (OZPoa)

112 He was a good boy.

Posted by: The little old lady who says that every time at December 03, 2012 09:12 PM (57VGh)

113 Remember Rae Carruth?He had his baby mama bumped off by a hit man.

****

He should be rotted by now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:02 PM (piMMO)

No, but his asshole is a lot bigger.

http://tinyurl.com/27wmrdg

Posted by: Bubba, your new cell mate

Wide receiver, indeed.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:12 PM (R18D0)

114 >>>Bob Costas said that the NRA is the new KKK?

***No, Jason Whitlock did today. That's who Costas was quoting last night.

__________________

He also said the NRA was ".... loading up our community with drugs"

Posted by: Lobo in Austin at December 03, 2012 09:12 PM (BAnPT)

115 Only the media would be surprised. Shooting the mother of your child doesn't come out of nowhere. And as I said earlier, I blame his mother, too, for raising this thug. I think it is disgusting that she is taking the baby. But of course, as guardian she controls/has access to whatever money the kid may have.

Posted by: Walkers! at December 03, 2012 09:13 PM (e/Cti)

116 Calm down with this culture of violence stuff. Next you will be saying that porn causes rape.

There is a difference between violence in sports or the movies vs. violence in life.

Posted by: Endeavor to Persevere at December 03, 2012 09:08 PM (zZJJp)

^THIS!

Posted by: Ray Lewis at December 03, 2012 09:13 PM (/1U3u)

117 Fuck, I needed Cruz to catch that.

Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 09:15 PM (gBuIk)

118 When it comes to a "culture of violence," i'd have to say that football beats all other 'cultures' by a factor of eleventy.

Jihadi football (i.e. soccer) played with severed heads has it beat by a smidge.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 03, 2012 09:16 PM (Y/aF4)

119 drip

drip

drip

Posted by: eman at December 03, 2012 09:16 PM (57VGh)

120 A child thug who grew up to play in the NFL? The devil you say! Next thing you'll tell me is NFL players will stage dog fights or some other crazy shit.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 09:16 PM (HDgX3)

121 #22 - Y-not, I cannot see how turning the baby into some kind of prize in a huge fight between the families is going to help.

Her father shot her mother, then himself. That's more than enough for a little kid to grow up with.

Posted by: Dianna at December 03, 2012 09:17 PM (mKMj1)

122 Yep, just dropped off a load of crack and pistols in Chicago. Dayum, life is good.

Posted by: Bubba the Truck Driver at December 03, 2012 09:18 PM (BVkEs)

123 There were some football players in Dallas in the 1980s who thought they'd get rich robbing stores or banks or some such shit. They all got caught and went to prison. A friend in medical school heard of a resident doing a rotation in the prison system and those football jocks buttholes were all tored-up.

http://tinyurl.com/ccfqedy

Sorry, I don't think the link mentions the situation with their buttholes.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:18 PM (R18D0)

124 Next you will be saying that porn causes rape.

That's already been tried and debunked scientifically. Really.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 03, 2012 09:18 PM (Y/aF4)

125
Fucking Ray Lewis. I hate that fucking guy.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at December 03, 2012 09:19 PM (unDG7)

126 67 "I have only one recollection of Belcher before Saturday. On a visit to Chiefs camp in 2010, I was going over the roster with Pioli, and he mentioned how Belcher was exactly the kind of player he wanted to build his team around -- a person of character who played hard and who could be trusted off the field. That's the only image I have of Belcher."

--Scott Pioli really muffed that one.
Posted by: logprof knows nobody else cares about his fantasy teams but so what at December 03, 2012 08:53 PM (gBuIk)

well in his defense, he is a sports writer - not a good enough athlete to play sports and not a good enough writer for a real job.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 08:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

Regarding the writing......Jim Murray, the exception that proves the rule.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2012 09:19 PM (Rhie+)

127 Hey!!!
I think Rusty humphreys is about to read AtC's open letter on the air!!

Tune in if you can

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 03, 2012 09:20 PM (+CR9l)

128 A child thug who grew up to play in the NFL? The devil you say! Next thing you'll tell me is NFL players will stage dog fights or some other crazy shit.

****

A loving and generous child of God who grew up to play in the NFL? The hell you say!

Let's not go getting crazy here.

There are Tebows and Mannings and Rodgers playing in that league as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:20 PM (piMMO)

129 There are Tebows and Mannings and Rodgers playing in that league as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

Okay, that's three.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:21 PM (R18D0)

130 Caller To Sports Show Claims Jovan Belcher Was An Evil Bully and Thug At 12 Years Old, Bob Costas and Jason Whitlock hardest hit.

FIFY Ace

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 03, 2012 09:22 PM (kqqGm)

131
Aztec or Mayan football, anyone?
The winning team got to kill the losers and would use the team captain's skull as the core of the new ball.

See, we've come a long way.

Posted by: Justamom at December 03, 2012 09:22 PM (Sptt8)

132 Okay, that's three.

****

ahem.

FOUR!

*poor Eli*

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:22 PM (piMMO)

133 Ding-Dong, Travon calling......
I self-renounce

Posted by: local Mary Kay rep at December 03, 2012 09:22 PM (m5+nh)

134 Hey, NCJ, how are them Bears doin?

Posted by: kinlaw at December 03, 2012 09:22 PM (uLTng)

135 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:20 PM (piMMO)

Exceptions
Rules
Prove

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 09:22 PM (HDgX3)

136 Hey, I'm a Christian! What about me?

Posted by: Ray Lewis at December 03, 2012 09:23 PM (/1U3u)

137 I am awaiting the President's news statement where he will announce that if he had a son, he wouldhave looked like Jovan Belcher.

Posted by: wargasmguy at December 03, 2012 09:23 PM (lIh1y)

138 BTW, the first time someone goes after football, looking to take it apart, I'm taking all yall out!

This isn't about football!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:23 PM (piMMO)

139 Hey, I'm a Christian! What about me?

***

Anyone can say anything.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:24 PM (piMMO)

140 He's reading it now

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 03, 2012 09:24 PM (LFN8n)

141 Coming soon - "The Jovan Belcher Story" from Thug TV

Posted by: izoneguy at December 03, 2012 09:24 PM (oKH8p)

142 Anybody wanna bet Ray Lewis was a thuggish 12 yo, too?

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at December 03, 2012 09:24 PM (unDG7)

143 Obviously this Belcher was a bad apple from the start. Shame on the NFL for putting up with such a terrible character.

Posted by: Pacman Jones at December 03, 2012 09:25 PM (2oHJ2)

144 Also acting like evil bullies and thugs?

These referees tonight.

Posted by: The Q at December 03, 2012 09:25 PM (w4fEE)

145 I am awaiting the President's news statement where he will announce that if he had a son, he wouldhave looked like Jovan Belcher.
Posted by: wargasmguy at December 03, 2012 09:23 PM (lIh1y)

I think you mean if he had a daughter she would look like the one belcher murdered.

clearly belcher behaved stupidly

crap no chance for a beer summit photo

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 09:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

146 Though I admit, upon reflection, that it's hard for The Ladies Man to come across as a bully and a thug.

Maybe just his assistant refs.

Posted by: The Q at December 03, 2012 09:25 PM (w4fEE)

147 Obviously this Belcher was a bad apple from the start. Shame on the NFL for putting up with such a terrible character.

****

Anyone wanna bet that Belcher was forced to join that MAAV group as part of his punishment for the 2006 incident?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:26 PM (piMMO)

148 129 "Okay, that's three"

Four.

Multiple Mannings.

Posted by: The Q at December 03, 2012 09:26 PM (w4fEE)

149 And stop calling football a 'violent' sport. Hard hitting, yes. Full contact, yes. Violent, no.

Posted by: CraigPoe at December 03, 2012 09:26 PM (BVkEs)

150 I have a bad feeling about this game.

The Giants have ball control but only 3 points to show.

Griffin really is a dynamic QB but he is going to get blown up one day.

Maybe tonight?

Posted by: General Woundwort at December 03, 2012 09:28 PM (0fxcV)

151 Congrats AtC
You just made the national airwaves and AFN overseas!!!

He just posted that on his Facebook page

Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 03, 2012 09:28 PM (LFN8n)

152 This is what happens when bullies are treated with "time outs" rather than allowing their victims to eventually deliver a vicious beating on them while a blind eye is turned.

The whole apparatus nominally intended to deter bullying actually enables and nurtures it.

I'm old enough to remember when it didn't work the way it does now, and school administrations did turn the blind eye when the victims retaliated.

I've seen the power of a "rehabilitative beating" to turn the arc of a bully's life around. I delivered one of those "rehabilitation's" in high school.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 03, 2012 09:28 PM (Y/aF4)

153 20
Congrats to Alexthechick for getting linked in Jay Busbee's massively circulated column on the Costas/Belcher affair.

Posted by: infovore at December 03, 2012 08:44 PM

Of course it's brought in lefty trolls to tell us how they're thinking and reasonable people and we're just ignorant savages with guns

If you have a few minutes, go to ATC's comments to assist in troll beatings

http://tinyurl.com/c5yzvtt

Posted by: Meghan McCain at December 03, 2012 09:29 PM (wwsoB)

154 When will the senseless violence - the kind that took poor Trayvon and Jovan's livesend? When, people, when?!

Posted by: BobAccosted Us at December 03, 2012 09:30 PM (lIh1y)

155 Who'd of thought a man who has been using his head for a battering ram for about 11 years straight, who was hooked on drugs as part of his employment, and who "earned" a college diploma in "child development and family relations" while on full athletic scholarship to play Division 1 football would use a handgun to kill the unwed mother of the child he sired? Oh yeah, it was definitely the gun that did it. Definitely.

Posted by: Manolo at December 03, 2012 09:30 PM (PttbO)

156 Oh yeah, it was definitely the gun that did it. Definitely.

That's what I said!

Posted by: Ray Lewis at December 03, 2012 09:32 PM (/1U3u)

157 I asked before and I'll ask again...

Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 09:33 PM (HDgX3)

158 This poor guy. Girlfriends can be dangerous. I mean, he needed that gun and to shoot her nine times so he wouldn't get tossed out the back of a truck like I did.

Posted by: Zombie Chris Henry at December 03, 2012 09:34 PM (2oHJ2)

159 Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?

There's an NHL?

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 03, 2012 09:35 PM (/1U3u)

160 Bob "I am standing up" Costas: Obviously, the gun culture caused Jovan to punch the window and be a bully thug.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 03, 2012 09:35 PM (41g+r)

161 There's an NHL?

****

Not this year.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 03, 2012 09:35 PM (piMMO)

162 129 "Okay, that's three"

Four.

Multiple Mannings.

Posted by: The Q

Shows how much of a fan I am.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:35 PM (R18D0)

163 There are Tebows and Mannings and Rodgers playing in that league as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

My super-sprots analyst powers detet something those players have in common --besides the obvious, that they're all quarterbacks.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Jason Dicklock at December 03, 2012 09:36 PM (gBuIk)

164
Honey, I think I have decided not to name our boy JayTrayRayVon.

Good Idea, let's go with Orenthal.

Posted by: Some Baby Mama and Baby Daddy at December 03, 2012 09:36 PM (n/ubI)

165

I never even saw him light a match.

Posted by: dumb@$$ neighbor award at December 03, 2012 09:37 PM (LpQbZ)

166 I asked before and I'll ask again...

Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?
Steroids.

Posted by: Nothing to see here at December 03, 2012 09:38 PM (HtUdo)

167 I asked before and I'll ask again...

Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?
Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 09:33 PM (HDgX3)

NHL players are all Canadians.

Canadians kill with poison.

Hi KT!

Posted by: eman at December 03, 2012 09:38 PM (57VGh)

168 Who you think gets hit in the head more than a NFL linebacker?

Posted by: NFL Baby Mama at December 03, 2012 09:38 PM (R18D0)

169 Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?

Hockey players are as pampered as the rest?

When everybody on the ice has the same weapon you have a tendency to not use it?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 03, 2012 09:38 PM (kqqGm)

170 Hmmm.... Could this be the "outcome-based education" pedagogy of the University of Maine, where Jovan Belcher earned a degree in "child development and family relations?"

Why isn't the National Organization for Women, "The View," or Sandra Fluke calling for a ban on those women-killing degrees?

Posted by: Manolo at December 03, 2012 09:39 PM (PttbO)

171 Lingerie football....where's the connection?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 03, 2012 09:39 PM (pPjld)

172 are = aren't

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 03, 2012 09:39 PM (kqqGm)

173 157 NHLers
Different upbringing

Different culture

Different demographic

Posted by: local Mary Kay rep at December 03, 2012 09:40 PM (m5+nh)

174 Well, if we had more Ghey football players, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.

They wouldn't be killing womens or having babies.

So, we need more ghey player to stop the violence.

There I said it!

Posted by: Barney at December 03, 2012 09:40 PM (wR+pz)

175 168Who you think gets hit in the head more than a NFL linebacker?

You know how many times i've been hit in the face with balls?

Posted by: Zombie Liberace at December 03, 2012 09:41 PM (pPjld)

176 157
I asked before and I'll ask again...

Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 09:33 PM (HDgX3)

The "murder suicides" or just "suicides"? Cause the NHL and hockey had a rash of suicides this past decade.
There haven't been the "murder suicides" since hockey players tend to come from intact families and not from single parent households.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 03, 2012 09:41 PM (Zd/NW)

177 OJ didn't use a gun.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 09:41 PM (3Y7RV)

178 are = aren't

You're confusing me.

Posted by: fluffy at December 03, 2012 09:41 PM (z9HTb)

179 Guns...don't need them.

Posted by: Zombie Lizzie Borden at December 03, 2012 09:42 PM (pPjld)

180 The gun culture that is the problem is the one that the black rappers promote that has nothing to do with protecting your life, your family, and property like all of us believe in.

Posted by: L is saying where's the dang SMOD? at December 03, 2012 09:42 PM (0PiQ4)

181 players tend to come from intact families and not from single parent households.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 03, 2012 09:41 PM (Zd/NW)

Dog Whistle! RACIST!

Posted by: MSM Spin doctors at December 03, 2012 09:42 PM (wR+pz)

182 Lingerie football....where's the connection?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at December 03, 2012 09:39 PM (pPjld)

I am going to bet money that the Lingerie League will not have a lot of felonious players.

Posted by: Golan Globus at December 03, 2012 09:43 PM (/1U3u)

183 So, we need more ghey player to stop the violence.

I'm the punter!

Posted by: Chris Kluwe at December 03, 2012 09:43 PM (Tz0EL)

184 players tend to come from intact families and not from single parent households.

Posted by: MrCaniac

Facts. What a bitch.

Posted by: Dang at December 03, 2012 09:44 PM (R18D0)

185 Just finished the whole Peter King column. Relieved to see he did not go on another gun-grabbing rant this time.

Posted by: logprof at December 03, 2012 09:44 PM (gBuIk)

186
Who you think gets hit in the head more than a NFL linebacker?

Posted by: NFL Baby Mama at December 03, 2012 09:38 PM (R18D0)

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Hello

Posted by: Tina Turner at December 03, 2012 09:47 PM (jucos)

187 Expect this and more as our "gov't" and media promote the advanced rotting of the American culture.

They hate the old values and will do anything to kill them off, having no idea what is in store when the foundation of the building is destroyed.

Posted by: Larson E. Whipsnade at December 03, 2012 09:47 PM (m5+nh)

188 I don't watch sports, at all. Never have. So the only thing I know about Costas is I'm pretty sure he bit a prostitutes tit and got in trouble.

Posted by: IBT at December 03, 2012 09:47 PM (2t6Gz)

189 What did Jovan's dad have to say about allmof this?

Posted by: LASue at December 03, 2012 09:47 PM (gjIQF)

190 177 OJ didn't use a gun.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 09:41 PM (3Y7RV)

Whats your point OSP?

Hey, glad you asked. By committing suicide he saved the taxpayers millions. Had he used a knife the attempted suicide would have most likely failed. It would not been efficiant. He, however used a gun which is very efficiant. Now the only question I have is how long will it take grandma to blow through the only real victim in this mess, the orphans, money.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 09:47 PM (3Y7RV)

191 Anybody just see this hands free phone commercial where, randomly, some cheerleader does a backflip?

Posted by: The Q at December 03, 2012 09:48 PM (w4fEE)

192 There is a difference between violence in sports or the movies vs. violence in life
Unfortunately some people can't tell the difference.

Posted by: harleycowb at December 03, 2012 09:48 PM (wSTfB)

193 Guns...don't need them.

Posted by: Zombie Lizzie Borden at December 03, 2012 09:42 PM (pPjld)
This x81

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 03, 2012 09:49 PM (kqqGm)

194 Got a notice in the mail. My health insurance is going up 24.6 percent on February 1st (a mere 6 months since the last usurious increase). Instead of $535 a month, it will be $667 a month. All hail the plastic jeebus! {spits}

Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2012 09:49 PM (kpCLl)

195
I went to see a fist fight one night and a hockey game broke out.

Really, ask yourself why hockey players have all those teeth missing. They are all pacifists, right?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is not Santa Claus at December 03, 2012 09:49 PM (Md8Uo)

196 OJ had a gun in the white racist bronco.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2012 09:49 PM (n/ubI)

197 Lingerie football ?

Getting hit vs. getting hit-on

Posted by: victoria's secret at December 03, 2012 09:50 PM (m5+nh)

198 my favorite Redskins cheerleader pic

http://is.gd/91WJvP

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 03, 2012 09:50 PM (8sCoq)

199 I fancy myself a reasonable fellow (which probably means I am actually unreasonable to the hilt), but damn if those leftist idiots at atc's post don't make me want to drag them outside and beat them senseless.

They do not give one damn from a corncob about anything if it does not jive with the information given them by their community organizers.

I need eggnog. Hot frikkin' damn, I wanna punch that Steve guy in the nose.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at December 03, 2012 09:51 PM (HJH7K)

200 OJ had a gun in the white racist bronco.

Man took all the oxygen out of an NBA Finals game.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at December 03, 2012 09:51 PM (kqqGm)

201 The giants, I repeat, appear to be shying away from hitting tonight. They don't want to hit.

Posted by: Truman North at December 03, 2012 09:52 PM (I2LwF)

202 195

I went to see a fist fight one night and a hockey game broke out.

Really, ask yourself why hockey players have all those teeth missing. They are all pacifists, right?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch is not Santa Claus at December 03, 2012 09:49 PM (Md8U

_________________________

You're about 25 years late with that joke. Fighting is almost non-existent in pro hockey today and since visors are mandatory at most levels aside from the NHL players have all their tooths as well.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 09:52 PM (HDgX3)

203 my favorite Redskins cheerleader pic

http://is.gd/91WJvP
Posted by: Jones in CO at December 03, 2012 09:50 PM (8sCoq)

interesting fact, that is how she sleeps.

Posted by: yankeefifth at December 03, 2012 09:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

204 Who you think gets hit in the head more than a NFL linebacker?I don't know. Who?

Posted by: Whitney Houston at December 03, 2012 09:53 PM (wSTfB)

205 If the kids on his block hadn't had toy guns while he was coming up Jovan and everyone else would still be alive. We need toy control. Now.

Posted by: NBC Political director at December 03, 2012 09:54 PM (+paCV)

206 Hockey players usually use their fists to settle things, not a knife or a gun. Totally different mindset.

Posted by: john ferguson at December 03, 2012 09:54 PM (m5+nh)

207 my favorite Redskins cheerleader pic

America's got talent!

Posted by: fluffy at December 03, 2012 09:56 PM (z9HTb)

208 my favorite Redskins cheerleader pic

Damn.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (3Y7RV)

209 Don't go blaming football for making folks violent. However an extra good athlete will be excused for all kinds of bad behavior because he is making money for his (HS,college or pro) team rather than having to face up for his actions the way Joe Schmo might have to (unless Joe's parents have lots of $$ or some kind of political clout and they bail him out.)

Same thing happens with horses. Nasty dispositions are dumped in the general population, but if its a race horse that is fast enough to win money its overlooked and bred on. But until enough of society boycotts thugs in sports (heh Rome will burn or they will pussify football so much they lose all the fans to hockey or soccer first) violent athletes will keep getting a pass until something as tragic as this happens. You can bet on that.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (dkExz)

210 He completed a "for credit" class titled "Male Athletes Against Violence" after he punched out a window over a woman. Let's see... He got three semester hours to take one of those "special" classes only for male athletes --football players in particular-- and graduated in just three and a half years with a degree in "child development and family relations." It's a good thing he didn't earn a degree in nuclear engineering or the entire eastern seaboard would've be wiped off the map by now.

Posted by: Manolo at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (PttbO)

211 If it weren't for guns, the Mafia would have been an Italian version of the United Way and Red Cross

Posted by: Bob Costas at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (wwsoB)

212 Ooof. Fatherless child seeks approval from male authority figures and bullies other children who might get that approval. I hate this planet. Twelve year old Javon Belcher should've had a father. Zoe Belcher should have a father. I wonder if Kassandra Perkins had a father? Because I know a lot of fathers who would be holding shotguns or shovels after their daughter turned up with a boyfriend with Javon's history...

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at December 03, 2012 09:58 PM (k3bHB)

213 my favorite Redskins cheerleader pic

Damn.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (3Y7RV)

I know, right?

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 03, 2012 09:58 PM (8sCoq)

214 Posted by: PaleRider at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (dkExz)

I almost agree with you. It would be impossible to pussify Soccer any further unless they played in high heels.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 09:59 PM (3Y7RV)

215 Is there a good reason why they're playing only bad Rolling Stones songs tonight?

Posted by: The Q at December 03, 2012 09:59 PM (w4fEE)

216 If it weren't for guns, the Mafia would have been an Italian version of the United Way and Red Cross

Posted by: Bob Costas at December 03, 2012 09:57 PM (wwsoB)

And the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at December 03, 2012 10:00 PM (3Y7RV)

217 If it weren't for the easy availability of guns, I wouldn't have shot Stacks

I would have cracked his head open with a baseball bat

Much more civilized

Posted by: Tommy DeVito at December 03, 2012 10:00 PM (wwsoB)

218 196 "OJ had a gun in the white racist bronco."

That's not true. The white Ford Bronco had the gun. O.J. was just walking down the street minding his own business when he was dragged into the Bronco. Didn't you read his book?

Posted by: Manolo at December 03, 2012 10:01 PM (PttbO)

219 If people didn't go apeshit for pro sports these thugs would still be out there but at least they wouldn't be gazillionaires. I stopped watching the NBA about 10 years ago. I'm pretty close to giving up on the NFL as well.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 03, 2012 10:01 PM (HDgX3)

220 217

If we didn't have such a violent gun culture, we would have more of a shinebox culture.

Posted by: The Q at December 03, 2012 10:01 PM (w4fEE)

221 Any colleges offering majors in Community Organizing yet ?

Posted by: beelzebub at December 03, 2012 10:03 PM (m5+nh)

222 alexthechick you made Rusty Humphries fb page!! Yay

Posted by: lou's a girl at December 03, 2012 10:05 PM (adaoe)

223 If it wern't for ballpoint pens, I would have just engaged this mutt in dialog

Ballpoint pens should only be carried by trained law enforcement officers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UHNTkVqWpQ

Posted by: Nicky Santoro at December 03, 2012 10:06 PM (wwsoB)

224 Why do we virtually never hear about these types of things from NHL players?

They're very clever at hiding the bodies

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 03, 2012 10:08 PM (Y/aF4)

225 Any colleges offering majors in Community Organizing yet ?

They have been for decades. Its called {insert your favorite grievance group here} Studies.

Posted by: Winston Smith at December 03, 2012 10:09 PM (Y/aF4)

226 219 I agree. Pro sports are becoming like bad pro wrestling from the 60's . Everything is " Look at me"
They aren't really teams, just groups of semi-illiterate mopes who are only a half step above prostitution.

The rules keep changing by people that never played a sport in their life, mostly suck-ass lawyers.

The water is starting to swirl around the drain, in so many ways.

Posted by: gravity at December 03, 2012 10:10 PM (m5+nh)

227 "Okay, that's three."

Reggie White.
Joe Delaney (look up what he did)

There are others. And more to come. see; Te'o, Mantai - Klein, Collin, etc

Posted by: teej says go K-State and de-lurks for cfb at December 03, 2012 10:15 PM (8Jp6C)

228 Yes, he was a bully and a thug, but he did smell intixicatingly of musk oil.

Posted by: Jovan's 6th grade girlfriend at December 03, 2012 10:19 PM (gjIQF)

229 A lot of people have already forgotten that Junior Seau just did himself in, too.

Posted by: Manolo at December 03, 2012 10:23 PM (PttbO)

230 Yes, he was a bully and a thug, but he did smell intixicatingly of musk oil.

Not everyone is so easily intixicated!

Posted by: Peaches at December 03, 2012 10:30 PM (kpCLl)

231

From the American Bar Association;

African Americans, especially African American Women, suffer deadly violence from family members at rates decidedly higher than for other racial groups in the United States. However, it is observed that research concerning family violence among African Americans is inadequate.

Overall, African Americans were victimized by intimate partners a significantly higher rates than persons of any other race between 1993 and 1998. Black females experienced intimate partner violence at a rate 35% higher than that of white females, and about 22 times the rate of women of other races. Black males experienced intimate partner violence at a rate about 62% higher than that of white males and about 22 times the rate of men of other races.
Callie Marie Rennison. and Sarah Welchans, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 178247, Intimate Partner Violence (2000), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/ipv.txt

African-American women experience significantly more domestic violence than White women in the age group of 20-24. Generally, Black women experience similar levels of intimate partner victimization in all other age categories as compared to White women, but experience slightly more domestic violence. (Estimates are provided from the National Crime Victimization Survey, which defines an intimate partner as a current or former spouse, girlfriend, or boyfriend. Violent acts include murder, rape, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault.)
Callie Marie Rennison, U.S. Dep't of Just., NCJ 187635, Intimate Partner Violence and Age of Victim, 1993-1999, at 4, (2001), available at http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/ipva99.htm

Approximately 40% of Black women report coercive contact of a sexual nature by age 18.
Africana Voices Against Violence, Tufts University, Statistics, 2002, www.ase.tufts.edu/womenscenter/peace/africana/newsite/statistics.htm

The number one killer of African-American women ages 15 to 34 is homicide at the hands of a current or former intimate partner.
Africana Voices Against Violence, Tufts University, Statistics, 2002, www.ase.tufts.edu/womenscenter/peace/africana/newsite/statistics.htm

In a study of African-American sexual assault survivors, only 17% reported the assault to police.
Africana Voices Against Violence, Tufts University, Statistics, 2002 www.ase.tufts.edu/womenscenter/peace/africana/newsite/statistics.htm

All of the above is waaayyy to dangerous to talk about.
The problem is "99 problems but a bitch ain't one" thinking and tolerance of impulsive and violent behavior. Families used to address those problems with things called parents. This guy was a problem before he was in the NFL

Posted by: thunderb at December 03, 2012 10:38 PM (Dnbau)

232 In my city there was a horrifying murder several years ago which involved people who were -outwardly - the exact opposite of NFL thugs. A elderly physician cornered his ex-wife in an underground garage and slit her throat. Google "Gerhard Witte."

I knew the man. He had been a well-respected doctor. She was an accomplished musician. He went off the deep end when she left him. He began stalking her obsessively. His practice went to hell. He let himself go and ended up looking like a street person. He was barred from a hospital where he had been on staff for many years because he was sending her long, abusive emails from the hospital computers. She got a restraining order. Fat lot of good that did her when he showed up in that garage with a knife.

Bear in mind this guy was in his '70's (of course, so was she) - hardly a 20-something 250 lb. linebacker. Unarmed, she still didn't have a chance.

He told the cops later "I'm a doctor. I knew exactly where to make the cut."

Posted by: Donna V. at December 03, 2012 10:53 PM (BStAJ)

233 Weird!
A black male kills a black female!?! How unusual!
Even weirder: a black male kills a black male?!? (In this case, himself.) Who'd a thunk it?
If he didn't have a gun, he'd have used a #2 lead pencil.
The thing about a shooting [spree] is that they always try to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. --William Burroughs.

Posted by: Thorvald at December 03, 2012 11:52 PM (1V6Pv)

234 I appreciate the fact that he permanently rehabilitated himself.

Posted by: torabora at December 04, 2012 06:27 AM (mtvng)

235 Football has to be banned so the collective can be safe to work and send in taxes.

Posted by: ban everything at December 04, 2012 07:51 AM (Kflw4)

236 But Belcher earned a degree in "child development" from the University o Maine.

Posted by: deepred at December 04, 2012 09:20 AM (YmACv)

237 Which is more racist: Black Bear (University of Maine) or White Elephant?

Posted by: Fourth Virginia at December 04, 2012 11:35 AM (wbmaj)

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