Obama's Offer: Give Me $1.6 Trillion in Tax Increases and An Unlimited Ability To Rasie the Debt Ceiling on My Own Authority And I'll Give You... Nothing In Return

Nope. No increase in the debt ceiling.

I love that part about presidential control over the debt ceiling, as his Majesty might require.

Fuck you. Let it burn.

Posted by: Ace at 06:23 PM



Comments

1 Let it burn.

Posted by: NCKate at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (V1oS8)

2 That Barry is a helluva negotiator.

Posted by: huerfano at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (bAGA/)

3 Let it Burn.

Posted by: Country Singer at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (92IJx)

4 Care to bet who wins this battle?

We elected Inside-The-Beltway whores, so we shouldn't be surprised that they whore themselves out to Obama.

I'm just surprised how cheap they are.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo's at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (GsoHv)

5 You can have my answer now, if you like. My final offer is this:
nothing. Not even the fee for the gaming license, which I would
appreciate if you would put up personally.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at November 29, 2012 06:25 PM (mg08E)

6 Abso-Freakin'-Tivley. Let. It. Burn. Down. To. The. Ground.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 06:26 PM (iKSAz)

7 I don't know if this is progress or a set back but they're not even bothering to lie to us anymore.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2012 06:26 PM (Hx5uv)

8 gotta post a link to a NY Times article on this...

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:26 PM (bJm7W)

9 Fuck you. Let it burn.

I am officially swooning with man-love. Probably the ghey kind.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (f6hd5)

10 $1.6 trillion isn't so bad. He could have demanded a brazilian.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (QKKT0)

11 I'm now in the Let. It. Burn. crowd. The quicker Socialism fails in this Country, the better the world will be.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (ndlFj)

12 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/us/politics/fiscal-talks-in-congress-seem-to-reach-impasse.html

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (bJm7W)

13 Well, the repubs would like to stand tough and really go after tax reform and spending cuts, but there's an election coming up in just two short years and they're already fund raising...

Posted by: huerfano at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (bAGA/)

14 I don't know if this is progress or a set back but they're not even bothering to lie to us anymore.

Why bother? The press?


Hah!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (QKKT0)

15 Can we throw in "Supreme Ruler for Life", Barry?

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM (z9HTb)

16 Of course they'll do it. Republicans are spineless and the Democrats in Congress love nothing more than the consolidation of power in a single man.

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM (3x3F6)

17 Permanent end to Congress debt ceiling control???

hahahahahahahahahaha. Is that even constitutional??

FUCK HIM, FUCK HIM, FUCK HIM, FUCK HIM.

JACK THE TAXES FUCKER. ON EVERYONE.

Own it you stupid bitch. You stupid smug faced fuck. Fuck you. You will go down as worse than jimmy carter. Champion of everything wrong with humanity.

Awesome.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM (tVTLU)

18 This not the hill to die on. If we approve this now because of the economic emergency, I'm sure they will be reasonable in the future.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM (Hx5uv)

19 We'll send an Obama bobblehead in a mason jar full of urine in response.

Hopefully he'll get the message.

Posted by: Bizarro Boehner at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM (IDypm)

20 from the Times article:

House Republicans said on Thursday that Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner presented the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a detailed proposal to avert the year-end fiscal crisis with $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, an immediate new round of stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits.

The proposal, loaded with Democratic priorities and short on detailed spending cuts, was likely to meet strong Republican resistance. In exchange for locking in the $1.6 trillion in added revenues, President Obama embraced $400 billion in savings from Medicare and other entitlements, to be worked out next year, with no guarantees.

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:29 PM (bJm7W)

21 It won't burn, drama queens.

GOP is acting from a position of weakness. It's politics folks, nothing's gonna burn, sure as romney was never going to get ohio or michigan.

Posted by: Olaf at November 29, 2012 06:29 PM (t1NLo)

22 Why doesn't Obama go full Caligula and demand deification? We are almost there already.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2012 06:29 PM (Hx5uv)

23 I wonder how the 40 papers that endorsed Mitt are going to cover this latest development.

Posted by: kallisto at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (jm/9g)

24 So Obama essentially wants congress to give him the power of the purse and he can also do pretty much what he wants using executive orders. Hmm a chief executive who consolidates all of the power unto himself... I seem to remember a name for that form of government.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (fXuxy)

25 He's out campaigning on this now. Sumbitch has no shame--and no brains.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (oe1aw)

26 ... and all spending and tax bills will originate at the Center for America Progress, I suppose.

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (bJm7W)

27
Of course they'll do it. Republicans are spineless and the Democrats in
Congress
fascists love nothing more than the consolidation of power in a single
man.

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM



Fixed to account for the cult of personality.

Posted by: huerfano at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (bAGA/)

28 We'll send an Obama bobblehead in a mason jar full of urine in response.

Hopefully he'll get the message.

---

How about a severed donkey head in his bed?

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (Hx5uv)

29 "He could have demanded a brazilian."

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (QKKT0)

Brazilian, natural, trimmed. I don't care. They're all nice.

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (GsoHv)

30 DFtT

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 29, 2012 06:30 PM (JEpGb)

31 Oh, look, Olaf is here.


National debt, Olaf. Your share is?

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (z9HTb)

32 Why doesn't Obama go full Caligula and demand deification? We are almost there already.


He's proposed a horse for his Secretary of State. Coincidence?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (QKKT0)

33 Western Union Telegram

From: George Orwell
To: President Barack Obama
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
District of Columbia

Re: Fiscal Cliff

FUCK YOU STOP
STRONG LETTER TO FOLLOW STOP

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (f6hd5)

34 Fuck you. Let it burn.

I am officially swooning with man-love. Probably the ghey kind.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:27 PM (f6hd5)



Same, but not in the ghey kind.

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (LpQbZ)

35 fuck them all

Let

It

Burn

to the fucking ground.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (8MasJ)

36 I seem to remember a name for that form of government.

Barackocracy?

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (bJm7W)

37 Why are you preoccupied with my share of the national debt?

Posted by: Olaf at November 29, 2012 06:31 PM (t1NLo)

38 Obama's Plan: Fuck you, pay me.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 29, 2012 06:32 PM (sGU4F)

39 I think Obama's next pet will be named Incitatus.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:32 PM (f6hd5)

40 How about a severed donkey head in his bed?

I like the way you think.

Posted by: Bizarro Boehner at November 29, 2012 06:32 PM (IDypm)

41 He's proposed a horse for his Secretary of State. Coincidence?

---

A horse named John Fucking Kerry.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (Hx5uv)

42 Don't get your hopes up. Boehner and McConnell are going to f*ck us. They've done it before.

Elections have consequences. Our loss in November 2012 will go down as monumental in our nations history.

There will be a before Obama and after Obama period in the same way there was a before Reagan/FDR, after Reagan FDR period in our history.

We're in for a few shitty decades my friends.

Posted by: Ben at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (xTHBC)

43 Why are you preoccupied with my share of the national debt?


It is a VERY important question. How much?

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (z9HTb)

44 He's out campaigning on this now


I would love to have someone ask him what office he's campaigning for.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (Gk3SS)

45 I've rapidly gone from "Let it burn" to "Where's my gasoline?"

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (96M6e)

46 This seems to be overreaching, even for the smarmy cocksucker-in-chief.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (GsoHv)

47 so the plan will be Stimulate The Failing Union..?

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (bJm7W)

48 Youmay have ze chicken.

Posted by: Patrick Stewart at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (NZVvk)

49 Fuck You. Let it burn.

Great stuff!!

Posted by: Stephen at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (RCQ1W)

50 How do you say LET IT BURN in Spanish?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (HDgX3)

51 Common Olaf....What is your share?

Posted by: minometer at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (PwwAS)

52 I was ready to let it burn almost 2 years ago. Just say in'......

Posted by: Dogbert at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (jWMIO)

53 I seem to remember a name for that form of government.

Barackocracy?

---

I was thinking Barckleptocracy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (Hx5uv)

54 Why are you preoccupied with my share of the national debt?


If we have to tell you why, you're even more retarded and misinformed than anybody here thought.

Posted by: Armando at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (IDypm)

55 Am I too cynical to believe the GOP would actually go for this deal? Because I do. I think they'll get some gimmicks and promises and they will claim victory, but I think this is essentially the deal they will make.

And when they agree I also believe that TFG will tell them to blow and he'll take us over the "fiscal Cliff." Then he'll blame the GOP.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (J4gw3)

56 Burn. It. All. Down.

Posted by: Dang at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (R18D0)

57 anyone besides me keeping in mind that even if we avoid this "cliff" there's a much worse one coming sooner or later? Remember Ryan's response to Geither laughing at a hearing a few months ago?

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (bJm7W)

58 It won't burn, drama queens.

It is burning, dipshit. You're just too stupid to notice.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (Pjg0o)

59 Rasie Taxes?
She not here right now.
You call back later.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (Qxdfp)

60 >>>National debt, Olaf. Your share is?

He doesn't care.

One of the most loathsome features of the left right now, and I do mean the ENTIRE left, is that they view this as some sort of game. They don't care about the long reaching effects or the impact it will have on them.

It's all Halo 4 multiplayer in their minds. They're squat-humping noobs while they're being taken to collection agencies and eating ramen noodles for dinner.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (sGU4F)

61 Don't be callin' dat fucka's bluff, yo!

Posted by: Dang at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (R18D0)

62 >>How do you say LET IT BURN in Spanish?

A few days ago, I did it in about 6 different languages. But I ain't gonna research it again.

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (96M6e)

63 If we have to tell you why, you're even more retarded and misinformed than anybody here thought.


Not really. I'm quite certain he is badly misinformed.

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (z9HTb)

64 even for the smarmy cocksucker-in-chief.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2012 06:33 PM (GsoHv)



a pos is always a pos

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:35 PM (LpQbZ)

65 >>>Fuck you. Let it burn.

Welcome to the dark side, oh here's your cookie.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (0q2P7)

66 Did Boehner hear this offer from Obama while he was grasping his ankles or while on his knees?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (f6hd5)

67 Guys, We need Q4. That will obviously jump start this corpse of an economy. Then we can financially rape the "rich." Finally, victory mud ritual with OWS. Fuck it... We're ruined.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (Znm/u)

68 Why are you preoccupied with my share of the national debt?

The fact that you're not indicates that you have no intention of helping to pay for it.

AKA: a parasite

Posted by: I've seen this before ... at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (gh+mp)

69 Boehner should send back a note, with a wax sealed envelope. It should simply read:

"Who is John Galt?"

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (tVTLU)

70 re 41: well, doesn't Kerry have a great talent for giving away the store for nothing in return?

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (bJm7W)

71 Laissez-la brûler.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (f6hd5)

72 As I've said before:

Give Obama all he wants for the next two years.

And make it incredibly clear to the public that it's ALL ON HIM.

It's not like Obamanomics is magically going to start producing massive economic growth.

It's not like Obamacare will suddenly not be a huge drag on hiring.

Give him what he wants. Make it clear to the public that this is so. And let him fail. Hard.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (ymG7s)

73 I'll give you an Executive Order banning federal funding of abortion, and you give me Health Care.

Posted by: no good deed at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (mjR67)

74 I hope Romney enjoyed his peanut butter and jelly sandwich with the Emperor.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows 47% got a fever and Uncle Sugar is the only cure at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (f6hd5)

75 The Audacity of Nope.

Posted by: ToursLepantoVienna at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (6NIyO)

76 We must raise taxes in order to lower them!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (X/+QT)

77 Fuck it... We're ruined.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (Znm/u)
I feel your pain.

Posted by: The Kuiper Belt at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (IDypm)

78 while Kerry is selling out the Israelis, he can bring the chili sauce for the banquet

Posted by: mallfly at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (bJm7W)

79 So Barry's proposal is as serious as his budgets, which got a grand total of ... zero votes in both Houses.

Smartest. President. Ever.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (Pjg0o)

80 I, for one, am looking forward to getting plunger-raped by the AMT, followed by the bukkake-ing of my 401k. I can just see it coming.

And to think, just yesterday, I was dreaming of parlaying my Powerball lucre into luxury yachts in the Caribbean, South Pacific, and Med. Sigh.

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (96M6e)

81 Heh. You really think a bunch of rich white people are going to go Galt?

Wish I could try some of what you guys smoke some weekend. No one's going Galt, nothing's going to burn. Why do you spend so much time posting comments over and over about burning the USA?

Go Galt already.

Posted by: Olaf at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (t1NLo)

82 is that they view this as some sort of game.


exactly

the joke is, they won absolutely nothing

not so surprising, they have no clue why that is

what self-hating, angry, little ignorant people the left are...

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (LpQbZ)

83 I would just like to point out that at least Lloyd Dobler got a pen.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (Gk3SS)

84 I seem to remember a name for that form of government.

Barackocracy?

---

I was thinking Barckleptocracy.

Will there be any Sharia with that?

Posted by: Morsi, Your Friend at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (ndlFj)

85 Ummm..... did the admin even bother to READ that document they SWORE to defend?

Or is the Constitution just dead to them....
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (lZBBB)

86 I have to admire Democrats. They know how to negotiate. They ask for 1000 things knowing they won't get them. But they also know Republicans will end up giving them 700 of those things. Republicans ask for 3 things and end up with 1 thing.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2012 06:40 PM (HDgX3)

87 EEeexcellent

LET. IT. ALL. BURN.

Posted by: Mr. Burns at November 29, 2012 06:40 PM (gedHR)

88 No one's going Galt, nothing's going to burn.

Says you, cracker.

Posted by: Detroit, City of the Future at November 29, 2012 06:40 PM (IDypm)

89
I think saying "hack media" should be a requirement when discussing the hack media.

Posted by: Fresh at November 29, 2012 06:40 PM (O7ksG)

90
Dude HAS to golf, I mean what the fuck.

BTW, what is that dolt Priebus's response to all this shit?

Sitting in the corner beating off? The idiot Dems are out spreading the word this is Repubs fault, and where is the GOP?

DOING SHIT.

I don't know who pisses me off more, the asshole lefties or the cocksucking GOP.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Don Trump at November 29, 2012 06:40 PM (ApGOC)

91 69
Boehner should send back a note, with a wax sealed envelope. It should simply read:


"Who is John Galt?"
Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 06:37 PM (tVTLU)



The art of Kanly still has many admirers in the Imperium.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (X/+QT)

92 Let it burn in Spanish is "Deja que se queme"

Loses something in translation IMHO

Posted by: Leigh at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (ajeG0)

93 Apparently obama has been to the Trumka school of negotiating.

Posted by: Buffalobob at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (x+7qA)

94 He is worse than I expected now that the fucking idiots reelected him! He fundamentally hates this country, let him go back to Kenya!

Jimmy Carter was just stupid, this man hates the US.
NO DEAL! ABILITY TO RAISE DEBT CEILING AT HIS OWN DISCRETION! NO!

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (z4WKX)

95 I would love to have someone ask him what office he's campaigning for.

It's not about an office, it's about maintaining a mindset among his followers. The election wasn't just about free stuff, it was about being part of the "cool crowd".

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (3x3F6)

96 Here's another monkeywrenching idea:

Make the public challenge to Obama -- as in, holding the press conference on the sidewalk outside of the White House public challenge -- as follows:

The House will refuse to sign or pass anything unless and until Obama actually formally submits a budget proposal and the Senate votes to pass that budget. The House will then take up the matter.

Sounds to the general public like a reasonable precondition.

Except that Obama's last proposed budget was rejected by the Senate 97 to 0.

So he might find the sledding a bit tough.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (ymG7s)

97 AKA: a parasite
Posted by: I've seen this before ... at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (gh+mp)



and, a snitch

grab his IP

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (LpQbZ)

98 Apparently, Obama will be on vacation in Hawaii when the fiscal cliff hits. Estimated cost; 4 million. It's up on Drudge.

That's our hero, fighting for the common man.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 29, 2012 06:41 PM (sGU4F)

99 >>Loses something in translation IMHO

True. Sort of like molon labe. Just sounds better in the original.

Posted by: jakeman at November 29, 2012 06:42 PM (96M6e)

100 81
Heh. You really think a bunch of rich white people are going to go Galt?


______________________

Nah. It never happened before.
Oh wait...


In the 2009-10 tax year, more than 16,000 people declared an annual income of
more than £1 million to HM Revenue and Customs. This number fell to just 6,000 after Gordon Brown introduced the new 50p top
rate of income tax shortly before the last general election.


It is believed that rich Britons moved abroad or took steps to avoid paying
the new levy by reducing their taxable incomes. George Osborne, the Chancellor, announced in the Budget earlier this year that
the 50p top rate will be reduced to 45p from next April.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2012 06:42 PM (HDgX3)

101 The socialists starting with the Frankfurt school wanted to subvert capitalism in America by taking over and destroying its institutions and then replace it all with some form of communism. I think their current post-modern off spring that are running the left in America don't really give a shit. They might throw out bumper sticker utopian ideas now and then but all they really want to do is destroy. The clearest example of this is found in the environmental movement, they are anti-human.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 29, 2012 06:42 PM (fXuxy)

102 So... he wants control over a gigantic sum of moneys, which implies the ability and stats-fu to handle it... and the very same guy said he couldn't handle math after 7th grade (i.e. he can't do pre-algebra).

Got it.

Posted by: They Can't Have My French Fries at November 29, 2012 06:42 PM (MDr17)

103 96. Me likey. No business until a 2013 budget is done.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:42 PM (X/+QT)

104 I would just like to point out that at least Lloyd Dobler got a pen.

And to bang Ione Skye.

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2012 06:42 PM (3x3F6)

105 I liked Suderman's proposed counter-offer, as far as it went. Really, though, we should also demand 40 Commie congress-critters per day as sacrifices to propitiate the arithmetic gods, as long as there's an impasse.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 29, 2012 06:43 PM (1V6Pv)

106 A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

Posted by: Joshua at November 29, 2012 06:43 PM (XvHmy)

107 This offer needs the following:

1) Republicans to say fuck off; and
2) Every day show up on every fucking network and say the president has done nothing and put no cuts on the table. We have put revenue on the table.

Period, end of story. And then spend the rest of the session mocking zero. I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK. $1.6T OVER TEN FUCKING YEARS?????

Folks we are running trillion plus deficits EVERY FUCKING YEAR.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 06:44 PM (tVTLU)

108 Well--

We have no control over it--

It will burn, but it won't be our doing.

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 06:44 PM (r2PLg)

109 Fucking clown shoes. They can eat shit.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:44 PM (pLTLS)

110
From the Financial Times two days ago (I tried posting link but the post keeps getting eaten up)


"In the 2009-10 tax year, more than 16,000 people declared an annual income of
more than £1 million to HM Revenue and Customs. This number fell to just 6,000 after Gordon Brown introduced the new 50p top
rate of income tax shortly before the last general election.



The figures have been seized upon by the Conservatives to claim that
increasing the highest rate of tax actually led to a loss in revenues for
the Government. It is believed that rich Britons moved abroad or took steps to avoid paying
the new levy by reducing their taxable incomes"

Good luck getting an extra $1.6T from evil rich (mainly white) people Barrack.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2012 06:44 PM (HDgX3)

111 @101 Agreed.
I am an evil tool-using biped. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 29, 2012 06:44 PM (1V6Pv)

112 i see our resident genius hasn't paid attention to the migrations of the very rich recently...our of Jersey, France, England, and soon, Failifornia.

of course, anyone as stupid of him wouldn't know anyone who would go Galt, but i do, and they are.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 29, 2012 06:44 PM (8MasJ)

113 hey, remember when congress controlled the purse springs. Who knew that porkulus would be baseline for next 4 years? Obama's stash.

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:45 PM (3zQJl)

114 And just think. Only 4 more years.

Muahahahahaha!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:45 PM (X/+QT)

115 GIVE.HIM.BOTH.

Seriously, give Obama unlimited power to raise the debt ceiling. You want it to burn?

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at November 29, 2012 06:45 PM (q177U)

116 Advice to Republicans,

from the underappreciated comedy "Used Cars"

High Prices?

Blow the shit out of them.

-
ttp://tiny url.com/UsedCarsHighPrices

remove space between tiny and url.
_

link under name
_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 29, 2012 06:45 PM (RuUvx)

117 and again, obama lied ass off during debates. what did he say about spending.

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:45 PM (3zQJl)

118 Win/win isn't in his vocabulary. He has no skills in the art of making deals and keeping associates friendly. That is really a failing in a politician but no one seems to notice it.

Posted by: snowcrash at November 29, 2012 06:46 PM (I30qo)

119 90 BTW, what is that dolt Priebus's response to all this shit?



Excellent question.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:46 PM (X/+QT)

120
Let It Rasie!!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 29, 2012 06:46 PM (IH2b5)

121 dumbass obama can raise tax all he wants, there has to be income to be taxed, which there won't be

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:46 PM (3zQJl)

122 Olaf: "Heh. You really think a bunch of rich white people are going to go Galt?"

If we can't have a troll with a brain, can we at least have one with some acerbic wit?

Yes, Olaf, you economic and historical illiterate, that is precisely what will happen, because that is what has happened throughout economic history.

Most recently in the UK.

http://tinyurl.com/c6ea9qg

People change their behavior in response to increased tax rates. Including by leaving the economy entirely. The Olafs of the world are never able to see this. Because the Olafs are simply not smart enough.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 29, 2012 06:46 PM (ymG7s)

123

Even if Boehner caves...
He might not get the votes he needs to pass whatever 'compromise' deal that he agreed to.

I'm hoping that there will be enough R's with some backbone left, to go against Boehner.

Posted by: wheatie at November 29, 2012 06:47 PM (CM59X)

124 @ 117 and again, obama lied ass off during debates. what did he say about spending.
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:45 PM (3zQJl)

Whaaaat? Obama? ....Lied? The hell you say!

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 06:47 PM (iKSAz)

125 That is really a failing in a politician but no one seems to notice it. Posted by: snowcrash

He's not a politician. He's a malignant narcissist. It really is all about him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 29, 2012 06:47 PM (JEpGb)

126 Olaf said:

"You really think a bunch of rich white people are going to go Galt?"

Yeah, rich white mennever do anything revolutionary, do they???

See USA dumb shit. We are not there yet, but if this path continues, it's a coming....

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 06:47 PM (tVTLU)

127

King Divider Continues His Tyranny.

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (LpQbZ)

128 Let it braise...

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (8MasJ)

129 A few more years and China won't have the US dollars to invest in out debt even if they wanted to.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (X/+QT)

130 nothing's going to burn


It is smouldering as we speak. Little glowing coals, with occasional small licks of flame.


How bad will it get? I don't know. If Milton Friedman, Adam Smith and Friederich Hayek were sitting across from me, nodding in agreement about how it will burn, I wouldn't believe them.


The national debt is affecting YOUR prosperity RIGHT NOW.

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (z9HTb)

131 81 Heh. You really think a bunch of rich white people are going to go Galt?

Wish I could try some of what you guys smoke some weekend. No one's going Galt, nothing's going to burn. Why do you spend so much time posting comments over and over about burning the USA?

Go Galt already.
Posted by: Olaf at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (t1NLo)

____________________

It's not about going Galt.

It's about letting the kids play with the matches?

Who are your adults Olaf?

Who is the adult in charge of foreign policy?

Donilon?

Don't.make.me. laugh.

Biden?

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (r2PLg)

132 Obama thinks he is George Costanza and Republicans are Lloyd Braun.

Meaning: obama will just buy a bunch of shit on Americans credit card and then be the bestest salesman ever.

Posted by: Mr pink at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (JyTRJ)

133 125 - yes. He is a terrible politician. It's shocking that someone that is president has no concept of how to make deals with the other party.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (pLTLS)

134 No one's going Galt, nothing's going to burn. Why do you spend so much time posting comments over and over about burning the USA?

Go Galt already.

Posted by: Olaf at November 29, 2012 06:39 PM (t1NLo)


You're just looking forward to men in ass-less chaps coming after you...

Posted by: The Humungus at November 29, 2012 06:49 PM (XvHmy)

135 Just give him a fucking crown.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 06:49 PM (L7dvG)

136 Crowns for clowns.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 06:49 PM (L7dvG)

137 133, Has Obama ever not gotten anything he wanted? (Except a father?)

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 06:50 PM (X/+QT)

138

Good ole Mark Levin.

Having his say.

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:50 PM (LpQbZ)

139 Here's a better idea Scooter....

we'll go over the cliff and let you get your tax unicorns....

then when you try to magic up the debt ceiling increase contra the US Constitution we'll have warned the world we're a banana republic now and to run.

Fuck you Ogabe.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 06:50 PM (LRFds)

140 Fuck it... We're ruined.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud at November 29, 2012 06:36 PM (Znm/u)

I feel your pain.

Posted by: The Kuiper Belt at November 29, 2012 06:38 PM (IDypm)


Well...

Posted by: Nemesis at November 29, 2012 06:50 PM (XvHmy)

141
He could have demanded a brazilian.

I tried that once, they threw me out of the place

Posted by: kj at November 29, 2012 06:50 PM (fAXyw)

142 Republican response :
The president obviously does not understands that we have a spending problem that cannot be resolved with increases in tax rates that will ultimately reduce federal revenue. We will pass no spending bills, we will shut down the government until such time as the president puts forth a reasonable proposal.



Let it Burn!

Posted by: RkinRoanoke at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (pxur/)

143 It's not about going Galt.

It's about letting the kids play with the matches.

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (r2PLg)

144 50 How do you say LET IT BURN in Spanish?


Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at November 29, 2012 06:34 PM (HDgX3)

Deje que se queman

Posted by: Guy who wanted to yell EN FUEGO! at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (lZBBB)

145 This is what happens when you don't (speaking of the Right) consistently govern on principle rather than politics. They just cant stop themselves from kicking the can to avoid the pain.

This is why congressional R's consistently lose...the demos are kicking the can, but its because they truly believe in what they are doing. They don't see it as avoiding anything...they are pursuing an agenda. They are acting politically out of principles. The R's are acting politically out of politics.

Let it burn.

There will be blood.

Posted by: The Hammer at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (4/zSc)

146 Rush is right. Dear Leader wants it to burn. He doesn't want a deal. He wants destruction. Complete and total. The same can be said for the rest of the dems.

Baraka will keep upping the ante until it finally blows up.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (oy/E2)

147 I just posted a screen cap of this post's top to my FB. Perfect.

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (Lc2SC)

148 19 We'll send an Obama bobblehead in a mason jar full of urine in response.

Hopefully he'll get the message.
Posted by: Bizarro Boehner at November 29, 2012 06:28 PM (IDypm)


That would be perfect.

Never happen, but I would laugh until spring.....

...non-stop.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (CxJM2)

149

Well, OK -- but you've got to throw in the floor mats and undercoating for free.

Posted by: John Boehner

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 29, 2012 06:52 PM (kdS6q)

150 137 - He could have destroyed the Republican party early on by simply co-opting them into his stimulus plan. He didn't do that and got his ass handed to him in 2010 as a result. His lack of leadership is amazing to behold.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:52 PM (pLTLS)

151 Come on Olaf...


Name the adults in your party.

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 06:52 PM (r2PLg)

152 Yeah, I normally loathe people who irresponsibly disclaim responsibility for the future of the country and say "let it burn," but...fuck it, let it burn.


Posted by: Jeff B. at November 29, 2012 06:52 PM (/COnL)

153

Obama is just following Morsi's lead.

They are, after all, brothers in Islam.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 29, 2012 06:52 PM (eG4bU)

154 "146 Rush is right. Dear Leader wants it to burn. He doesn't want a deal. He wants destruction. Complete and total. The same can be said for the rest of the dems.

Baraka will keep upping the ante until it finally blows up.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 06:51 PM (oy/E2) "

What would Ayers do?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 06:53 PM (L7dvG)

155 it's not about letting it burn. thats gonna happen regardless. it's what we do then. . .

Posted by: khammer at November 29, 2012 06:53 PM (ABU6P)

156 152 I don't really know what else we can do.We took our case to the people and the people chose to be ruled by,at best,children.

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 06:54 PM (9XBK2)

157 Give Obama (and his voting majority) what they want.
Vote “Present” in the House and Senate.
When the economy goes in the tank – as it inevitably will – all the blame is on the Dem/socialists.
But, nooooooooo, the STUPID party will continue to negotiate to protect the tax rates for the top 2%, cause the fall over the cliff and take the blame.
The next morning, Boehner, Cantor, McConnell and the rest of that clueless collection will be genuinely surprised.
“You mean Obama lied and the media are all Democrats and will lie???”

The Dems are socialists (and near-traitors), the Tea Party is into self-destruction (“we’d rather be right than win”) and the Republicans are just plain f***ing stupid.

Posted by: TV at November 29, 2012 06:54 PM (rw2cM)

158 Nuts.

Posted by: Davidlind at November 29, 2012 06:54 PM (J9mCu)

159 152 Jeff B,

In a democracy we lack power.

In the Republic I swore to defend we'd have a play.

I miss the Republic.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 06:54 PM (LRFds)

160 Come on Olaf...

Name the adults in your party.

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 06:52 PM (r2PLg)



lil olafie does not even know how much a carton of eggs cost

and, we all know why

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:54 PM (LpQbZ)

161 How many is a brazilian? I forgot.

Posted by: snowcrash at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (I30qo)

162 Just to sweeten the deal, Obama is throwing in a free box of kittens for Boehner.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (iKSAz)

163 >>>No one's going Galt, nothing's going to burn.

You remember that when someone comes for your tree bark soup. Just keep saying "this is not happening" I hear that helps.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (0q2P7)

164 Musical interlude:

http://vimeo.com/18580680



Posted by: Joe Mama at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (EKr9U)

165 He is a terrible politician. It's shocking that someone that is president has no concept of how to make deals with the other party.
Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (pLTLS)


------------------------------------------------------


You're still living in a delusion. Baraka wants all the power, and, unfortunately, he's got most of it. Why be a politician when you can be king.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (oy/E2)

166 155 it's not about letting it burn. thats gonna happen regardless. it's what we do then. . .
Posted by: khammer at November 29, 2012 06:53 PM (ABU6P)



Roast Racist Marshmallows

Posted by: moronette at November 29, 2012 06:55 PM (LpQbZ)

167 "157 Give Obama (and his voting majority) what they want.
Vote “Present” in the House and Senate.
When the economy goes in the tank – as it inevitably will – all the blame is on the Dem/socialists.
But, nooooooooo, the STUPID party will continue to negotiate to protect the tax rates for the top 2%, cause the fall over the cliff and take the blame.
The next morning, Boehner, Cantor, McConnell and the rest of that clueless collection will be genuinely surprised.
“You mean Obama lied and the media are all Democrats and will lie???”

The Dems are socialists (and near-traitors), the Tea Party is into self-destruction (“we’d rather be right than win”) and the Republicans are just plain f***ing stupid.

Posted by: TV at November 29, 2012 06:54 PM (rw2cM) "

Near-traitors?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (L7dvG)

168

Burn, Baby! Burn!

Posted by: H. Rap Brown bwt I'm still allive at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (mETGQ)

169 hot air was funnny, the counter offer should be cut all taxes, shut down feds, leave open defnse.

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (3zQJl)

170 Gasoline, glass bottles, rags, lighter. Yep, all set!

Posted by: JB1000 at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (Pd7/U)

171 Cleanse and purify it with much heat and flame.

Posted by: johnd01 at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (nwiCZ)

172 I'm all for giving teh SCOAMF everything mentioned except for the executive control on the debt ceiling. Budget matters belong in Congress. Everything else? Go for it.

Posted by: Marmo at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (pcgW1)

173

NOTE TO LIBERALS:


GO SUCK A FART OUT OF MY ASS.


Have a nice day. And please die (it'll be for the kids).


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 06:56 PM (XkWWK)

174 Since this is no longer a serious discussion, the Republican counter-offer should be Obama's immediate resignation.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 29, 2012 06:57 PM (sGU4F)

175 seriosuly, didn't obama promise things while running?

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:57 PM (3zQJl)

176 151
Come on Olaf...





Name the adults in your party.



FYI, your DD characters don't count.

Posted by: Armando at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (IDypm)

177 The ring must be destroyed. Who will carry the ring?

Posted by: TheThinMan at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (+9HV6)

178 Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (pLTLS)

You don't understand .... He does not WANT a Deal...

He wants the Tax cuts to expire.... and sequestration to happen... and then he blames it on Bonehead in the House.... and those evil TEA Partiers...

He really believes that the Government can run the economy better than the people can.... he has that amount of Hubris...

Posted by: Guy who wanted to yell EN FUEGO! at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (lZBBB)

179 Just to sweeten the deal, Obama is throwing in a free box of kittens for Boehner.


My mind leaped to "Obama throwing a box of kittens in a ..."


just as a big "Fuck you" on his part.

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (z9HTb)

180 Guys, how stupid is zero, I mean seriously. Does no one see he just doubled the request for revenue he was seeking before:

"The disagreements in the first round of negotiations reportedly were the insistence by Obama and the Democrats on a certain level of new tax revenue. Republicans, particularly more conservative members of Congress, were said to have vigorously opposed raising taxes beyond a certain amount, reportedly some $800 million worth of new revenue." FROM 2011.

Now he'll go back to $800MM and say he's being REASONABLE and still try to sneak in the debt ceiling control issue.

FUCK HIM. JACK EVERYONE'S TAXES AND LET'S GET IT OVER WITH.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (tVTLU)

181 Well Olaf is off.

Your party is playing with fire--and we are powerless to stop you--that is the sentiment.

You'll have very little balance or checks on all of your 'theories".

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (r2PLg)

182 What is better,letting the votes happen and allowing the Dems to get all they want or just letting the sequestration hit?I'm fine with either.

Posted by: steevy at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (9XBK2)

183 yeah, nothing will burn, we will muddle through. see great depression 1.0 and the USSR

people like obama/fdr care about power not money. they hate money because it gives people powerthat aren't them

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (3zQJl)

184 >>>your DD characters

Robopixy strikes again. Claiming another ampersand from the unsuspecting.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (0q2P7)

185 "178 Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:48 PM (pLTLS)

You don't understand .... He does not WANT a Deal...

He wants the Tax cuts to expire.... and sequestration to happen... and then he blames it on Bonehead in the House.... and those evil TEA Partiers...

He really believes that the Government can run the economy better than the people can.... he has that amount of Hubris...

Posted by: Guy who wanted to yell EN FUEGO! at November 29, 2012 06:58 PM (lZBBB) "

I'm a better Capitalist than my Capitalists.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (L7dvG)

186 165 - Obozo may want to be king, but that doesn't make me deluded. It's plain to see that he doesn't have the capacity for basic, retail level politics. He can't cut deals, persuade or lead. Now granted, none of that really matters because he's president, but he sucks as politics.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (pLTLS)

187

As Michael Cor-LEE-oh-NEE responded to Senator Pat Geary: "My answer to you is this; nothing. And I'll appreciate you paying the casino licensing fee."

Or as General Tony McAuliffe replied when asked to surrender the 101 at Bastogne:

"NUTS!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (XkWWK)

188 How about a counter offer, on paper, of 100% taxation on all income above $75,000?

For realsies.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 07:00 PM (X/+QT)

189 "The House will refuse to sign or pass anything unless and until Obama actually formally submits a budget proposal and the Senate votes to pass that budget. The House will then take up the matter."

This X 1000

Posted by: Lauren at November 29, 2012 07:00 PM (wsGWu)

190

I love that part about presidential control over the debt ceiling, as his Majesty might require.

Fuck you. Let it burn.



Posted by: Ace at 06:23 PM




Indeed. There is no other rational answer at this point.



Let it burn, pick up the pieces after everything goes to hell, restart.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 29, 2012 07:00 PM (9oGUt)

191 Geithner proposed this. Where the heck is Obama? Why does he send out his flunky?

Posted by: Baldy at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (opS9C)

192 >>>yeah, nothing will burn, we will muddle through. see great depression 1.0

GD 1.0 despite all the strife, at least we had a (relatively) stable currency. We won't even have that here in a little while.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (0q2P7)

193 185 - Of course he doesn't want a deal. I never said he did. He just doesn't get how to get people to go along AND to get everything he wanted. Understand?

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (pLTLS)

194 Obligatory.

http://tinyurl.com/ce4p2nd


Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (kFnmp)

195
Much as I despise Mitch McConnell, I actually smiled when I saw that he supposedly laughed in Tim Geithner's face.

It ain't much, but these days I'll take any thing remotely resembling good news where I can get it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (XkWWK)

196 "186 165 - Obozo may want to be king, but that doesn't make me deluded. It's plain to see that he doesn't have the capacity for basic, retail level politics. He can't cut deals, persuade or lead. Now granted, none of that really matters because he's president, but he sucks as politics.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (pLTLS) "

What? He gets what he wants.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (L7dvG)

197 There might be 3-4 politicians willing to destroy the ring of power. Rand Paul?

Posted by: TheThinMan at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (+9HV6)

198 Shut it down AND let it burn. No rise in the debt limit plus let the tax rates soar.

Sit back and witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational clusterfuck.

Oh, and don't read Poopin Fresh's take on how both of those ideas are insane and the Republicans need to salvage something while mostly just bending over politely.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (ccXZP)

199 Obama thinks America is Chicago. And as long as limp dicks like Boehner and McConnel keep bending over - we are.

I think we have hit the fish or cut bait point in our nation's history. Either this smug little punk is going to get bitch slapped - or we are toast.

Posted by: george at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (qBLA2)

200 Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 29, 2012 06:57 PM (sGU4F)

Yup.... Obama just suggested that the Constitution be changed without Amendment...

That Congress Cede both its Power, and Responsibility, to unelected People...

That, in and of itself, disavows his OATH to Defend the Constitution.... and is thus, TREASON.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (lZBBB)

201 JoeinDC:

Indeed. This tax bullshit is meaningless. Do we not see that the neverending debt is a HUGE FUCKING TAX on us, and will remain so for some time.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (tVTLU)

202 Debt ceiling? We don't need no stinking debt ceiling.

Obama will be getting money from Iran before his 4 years is up - you just watch…..

Posted by: izoneguy at November 29, 2012 07:02 PM (oKH8p)

203 I've heard Intel Officers say many times that the reao end to the Soviet Union was when they could no longer tell when they were lying to themselves.

We're there. The Federal Govt doesn't even know when they are just making $hit up.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:02 PM (iKSAz)

204 Sheeit, how about a two-sentence bill to give $50,000 in cold, hard cash to every person in America. Let the Dems vote against it.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 07:02 PM (X/+QT)

205 "193 185 - Of course he doesn't want a deal. I never said he did. He just doesn't get how to get people to go along AND to get everything he wanted. Understand?

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 07:01 PM (pLTLS) "

But he does get everything he wants. Understand?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (L7dvG)

206 It has been revealed Susan Rice is worth between 20 AND 40 MILLION dollars.

How the fuck did that happen - and where are the people investigating her clearances?

Posted by: george at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (qBLA2)

207 Walk away Boehner!

Posted by: Iblis at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (9221z)

208 yeah baby let this mfer burn! i'm feeling all sorts of revy

Posted by: evil libertarian at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (Xcb5k)

209 You know where they have been rolling on pure luck is in the area of foreign policy.

Donilon? Hillary? Biden?

Holy gawd.

They are going to get checked hard by some players on the international scene and-

we all will get burned.

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (r2PLg)

210 The ThinMan:

I want to see Rubio/DeMint/Paul all team up in the Senate and bring down the hammer with McConnel.

This is an offer you laugh at (way to go Mitch). End negotiations until they come up with a more realistic offer, and don't walk into my fucking office with the request to get rid of the debt ceiling. Fucking period.

Otherwise, bring on the fiscal cliff. AND BE ON EVERY NEWS OUTLET EVERY DAY TALKING ABOUT HOW LAUGHABLE AND BS THE DEMS ARE.....

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 29, 2012 07:03 PM (tVTLU)

211 **GD 1.0 despite all the strife, at least we had a (relatively) stable currency. We won't even have that here in a little while.**

concur, i said that long time ago.

and true, tax is irrelevant. spending is no longer tied to revenue in meaningful way.

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 07:04 PM (3zQJl)

212

If the Rep's cave and let Barky have the continued 'Tax Cuts' for the middle class...
Then those will no longer be referred to as the 'Bush Tax Cuts'.

Those cuts will be renamed and called the "Obama Tax Cuts".

Which is why...Let it Burn must mean: Allow all the Bush Tax Cuts to expire.
All of them.

Let them return to the Clinton Tax Rates, for everyone.

Posted by: wheatie at November 29, 2012 07:05 PM (CM59X)

213 Kiss the whip, Olaf.

Good boy.

Posted by: angienc at November 29, 2012 07:05 PM (w3JGl)

214 Sheeit, how about a two-sentence bill to give $50,000 in cold, hard cash
to every person in America. Let the Dems vote against it.



No withholding.

Posted by: fluffy at November 29, 2012 07:05 PM (z9HTb)

215 214, Even better.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 29, 2012 07:06 PM (X/+QT)

216 That Obama, he's a brilliant negotiator. We cannot turn down this offer!!

Posted by: The GOP at November 29, 2012 07:06 PM (z63Tr)

217

I am actually awaiting SCOAMF to dissolve the House of Representatives.

If Boehner and the GOP hold the line - and that is a gigantic IF - then this fucking crooked tyrant may try and pull something like this because it's a national emergency or some such bullshit.

Well, let him roast his fuckin' marshmallows in the burning Reichstag.

Momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (XkWWK)

218 He's proposed a horse for his Secretary of State. Coincidence?

---

A horse named John Fucking Kerry.




Hay!!! I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Parker at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (r4GeY)

219 There is one way to really make your vote count, and that is with your feet. Move to a low tax, limited government state. You cannot fix CA or IL etc., but you can leave them.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (ccXZP)

220 #193 I know exactly what you mean.

Posted by: snowcrash at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (I30qo)

221 Obozo may want to be king, but that doesn't make me deluded. It's plain to see that he doesn't have the capacity for basic, retail level politics. He can't cut deals, persuade or lead. Now granted, none of that really matters because he's president, but he sucks as politics.
Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 06:59 PM (pLTLS)


------------------------------------------------


He has absolutely no interest in American politics. So please get rid of your fixation that he gives a damn what anyone but himself wants. He's waiting for his congressional minions to do the politics and then give him the all the reins of power. He wasn't elected to be a politician. He was elected to rule.

As for being a leader? The worst preezy in American history, and he got re-elected.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (oy/E2)

222 205 - Right, because he got EVERYTHING he wanted after the 2010 midterms. Uh, no. My point is an actually savy politician could have gotten everything and completely neutered the other party to boot. He missed that opportunity. I am not arguing that they guy isn't somewhat successful. He is, but in a Chicago-style that creates enemies for life.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 07:08 PM (pLTLS)

223 drudge shows obama approval dropped to 49%

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 07:09 PM (3zQJl)

224 The country is shot. Your only alternative is to have a good beer and smile through the apocolypse.

Posted by: Libra at November 29, 2012 07:09 PM (kd8U8)

225 KEROSENE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuO3wwLuF0w

Posted by: BIG BLACK at November 29, 2012 07:10 PM (h0/Fv)

226 217

I am actually awaiting SCOAMF to dissolve the House of Representatives.

If Boehner and the GOP hold the line - and that is a gigantic IF - then this fucking crooked tyrant may try and pull something like this because it's a national emergency or some such bullshit.

Well, let him roast his fuckin' marshmallows in the burning Reichstag.

Momzer.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 29, 2012 07:07 PM (XkWWK)

_________________

Na he needs someone to play bad guy and to be the-scapegoat--that way the media won't have to work too hard when they write their fables.

Posted by: tasker at November 29, 2012 07:10 PM (r2PLg)

227 224 Libra,

I'd suggest walking or hitchhiking to The Ark-La-Tex or Mississippi....

decent fishing and we'll rebuild something that looks enough like the old without the mistakes since Nixon....

Run Red let this burn.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 29, 2012 07:10 PM (LRFds)

228 "222 205 - Right, because he got EVERYTHING he wanted after the 2010 midterms. Uh, no. My point is an actually savy politician could have gotten everything and completely neutered the other party to boot. He missed that opportunity. I am not arguing that they guy isn't somewhat successful. He is, but in a Chicago-style that creates enemies for life.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 29, 2012 07:08 PM (pLTLS) "

1) What didn't he get?
2) The other party is completely neutered.
3) Because he doesn't give a fuck and has other priorities.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:11 PM (L7dvG)

229 I've been predicting this play regarding the debt ceiling for years. I so wish the GOP would give it to him (from a LiB perspective). Sure, it's just a speed bump anyway. But it's just the fuel we need to get that fire roaring. And we need something self-sustaining.

But until the public opinion of the debt limit turns against it to the point the MFM can hang it around the GOP's neck as obstructionist, we'll have to rely on a different fuel.

Soon, though.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 07:11 PM (zpqa2)

230 It doesn't matter at this point what side of LIB your on. It going to burn regardless. There is no way to avoid it at this point. Hang on folks, the fun is just getting started. Dystopia is just another 5 year plan away!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 29, 2012 07:11 PM (8SsiG)

231

49% you say?

already?

someone said something earlier about a pendulum swinging...



Posted by: soothsayer at November 29, 2012 07:12 PM (eG4bU)

232 Black Friday gun sales for a record shattering year.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:12 PM (iKSAz)

233 Whether they "Let It Burn" or they make a "Grand Bargain" or dance the Salsa, one thing is certain. We (you and I) don't have any say about it at all. NONE.

I've been reading this blog for years - so I know many of you people are of above average intelligence. I'd like to propose that we / you concentrate your intellect on coming up with ideas that WE can affect.

Mine is to organize a nationwide boycott of Conservatives never again watching NBC. Period. We get a nationwide figure like Rush or Palin to lead the charge. I think if we take down one network and we make it clear that we did it and why, the other networks will change their programming out of sheer survival.

Even if I'm wrong, we do at least ~some~ damage to their bottom line and we all know TV is bad for us any way. Nothing to lose.

Mostly we stop being scared little naysayers and we start fighting back. Maybe this idea doesn't win the war. But it gets us started on a path of doing something instead of being powerless.

Posted by: sympleton at November 29, 2012 07:13 PM (cVYiZ)

234 **GD 1.0 despite all the strife, at least we had a (relatively) stable
currency. We won't even have that here in a little while.**

Once the petrodollar is gone, were basically screwed. And I like Peter Suderman's counter offer.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 29, 2012 07:13 PM (NzBQO)

235 Correction, Ace: "...Raze The Debt Ceiling..."

Posted by: andycanuck at November 29, 2012 07:13 PM (jPVBi)

236 well ya know inflation and all.


1.6 trillion

i used to think a billion dollars was a lot.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 07:13 PM (hX8cq)

237 "230 It doesn't matter at this point what side of LIB your on. It going to burn regardless. There is no way to avoid it at this point. Hang on folks, the fun is just getting started. Dystopia is just another 5 year plan away!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 29, 2012 07:11 PM (8SsiG) "

This. But the totalitarian dystopia is already here, and has been for a while. Try saying something deemed "politically incorrect."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:13 PM (L7dvG)

238 I have this weird sense that the whole country is on edge~waiting for the new "Shot heard round the world."

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:16 PM (iKSAz)

239 Lol Obama likes to come in high I see.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 29, 2012 07:16 PM (NzBQO)

240 "233 Whether they "Let It Burn" or they make a "Grand Bargain" or dance the Salsa, one thing is certain. We (you and I) don't have any say about it at all. NONE.

I've been reading this blog for years - so I know many of you people are of above average intelligence. I'd like to propose that we / you concentrate your intellect on coming up with ideas that WE can affect.

Mine is to organize a nationwide boycott of Conservatives never again watching NBC. Period. We get a nationwide figure like Rush or Palin to lead the charge. I think if we take down one network and we make it clear that we did it and why, the other networks will change their programming out of sheer survival.

Even if I'm wrong, we do at least ~some~ damage to their bottom line and we all know TV is bad for us any way. Nothing to lose.

Mostly we stop being scared little naysayers and we start fighting back. Maybe this idea doesn't win the war. But it gets us started on a path of doing something instead of being powerless.

Posted by: sympleton at November 29, 2012 07:13 PM (cVYiZ) "

This. Try to make a fucking example of someone. Like that stupid Ottoman EPA tard said. It's the best we can do at this point.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:17 PM (L7dvG)

241 he's not worried a bit. he's already making plans for his multi million dollar vacay.

i say shrug.
Hey if it's not such a big deal,
gofer it.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 07:17 PM (hX8cq)

242 New plan. Sexy economics videos. Engage the culture and all that.

Posted by: Lauren at November 29, 2012 07:17 PM (wsGWu)

243 The black market will flourish under Obama. So there's that.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:18 PM (iKSAz)

244 Let it burn did you say? Absofuckinglutely!!!!

Posted by: wtf? at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (OKhkt)

245 We've run out of alternatives. Thanks congress, dems and repubs alike, thanks. And we've got a boy-king. Thanks 50+%ers.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (oy/E2)

246 "243 The black market will flourish under Obama. So there's that.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:18 PM (iKSAz) "

Well, the black market is the (inevitable) Free Market, so there really is that.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (L7dvG)

247 the only power or option gop has is to say, show us a senate budget and tax plan, leaders.

Posted by: joeindc44 at November 29, 2012 07:21 PM (3zQJl)

248 What? Obama didn't ask for repeal of the 22nd? Oh that's right: EO for that...

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 07:21 PM (zpqa2)

249 "244 Let it burn did you say? Absofuckinglutely!!!!

Posted by: wtf? at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (OKhkt) "

I'm gonna say it:

We don't need no water; let the motherfucker burn. Burn, motherfucker, burn.


(Is that how it goes?)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:22 PM (L7dvG)

250 OT. On the culture thread, I think some impressions, cartoons, skits etc of known media figures going "Of course we lied for and pushed Obama -- Romney is a teetotaler, do you have any idea what having to buy my own booze would have done to my personal budget ?" Might get through to a few people that "ahem the media are not completely impartial"

Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2012 07:23 PM (dkExz)

251 Wheatie, something in your nic-link is causing the "long string of text" error.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette, still a Hobbit at November 29, 2012 07:24 PM (NYki8)

252 "250 OT. On the culture thread, I think some impressions, cartoons, skits etc of known media figures going "Of course we lied for and pushed Obama -- Romney is a teetotaler, do you have any idea what having to buy my own booze would have done to my personal budget ?" Might get through to a few people that "ahem the media are not completely impartial"

Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2012 07:23 PM (dkExz) "

Heretic.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:24 PM (L7dvG)

253 Well, the black market is the (inevitable) Free Market, so there really is that.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (L7dvG)

I like this.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:24 PM (iKSAz)

254 so He's gonna finish burning down the house.

now where in the hell are My food stamps ,phone, mortgage payment, electricity assistance.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 07:25 PM (hX8cq)

255 "253 Well, the black market is the (inevitable) Free Market, so there really is that.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (L7dvG)

I like this.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:24 PM (iKSAz) "



(Let's hope for the best, I guess.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:25 PM (L7dvG)

256
Ospender WANTS to go over the fiscal hump because what he really wants is tax raises on the middle class.

That is why he makes no serious offer, in fact a slap.

The repubs should accommodate him. Many of the middle class voted for him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2012 07:25 PM (n/ubI)

257 "254 so He's gonna finish burning down the house.

now where in the hell are My food stamps ,phone, mortgage payment, electricity assistance.

Posted by: willow at November 29, 2012 07:25 PM (hX8cq) "

Obama giveth, and Obama taketh away.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:27 PM (L7dvG)

258 So by definition the GOP has now lost, because Obama has made an offer. Any offer.

Roll the presses, MFM - "Obstructionist GOP Refuses to Accept Gracious Offer Made by President Obama"

Subhead: "President's offer would look out for middle class, have minor impact on rich" "lay the groundwork for fiscal reform"


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 29, 2012 07:27 PM (zpqa2)

259 @256
Ospender WANTS to go over the fiscal hump because what he really wants is tax raises on the middle class.


THIS. Exactly. The middle class is where the $$$ is. It's always been about going after the middle class.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:27 PM (iKSAz)

260 "256
Ospender WANTS to go over the fiscal hump because what he really wants is tax raises on the middle class.

That is why he makes no serious offer, in fact a slap.

The repubs should accommodate him. Many of the middle class voted for him.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 29, 2012 07:25 PM (n/ubI) "

Equality through poverty.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:28 PM (L7dvG)

261 Sort of like "Peace through strength" but Leftister.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:29 PM (L7dvG)

262 238 I have this weird sense that the whole country is on edge~waiting for the new "Shot heard round the world."


Half the country maybe. The other half is sucking on Uncle Sugars teets.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 29, 2012 07:29 PM (15w2J)

263 Boehner, McConnell and the others should force SCOAMF to put it in writing and mail it to every conservative blog.

Rush was right, he wants it to go down and no republican should have any fingerprints on it!

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 07:29 PM (z4WKX)

264
251Wheatie, something in your nic-link is causing the "long string of text" error.

-------------

Really?
Uh oh. Sorry about that.

It was a link to an article at Breitbart...about Katy Perry teaming up with Grover Norquist against a Dem-proposed law to cut royalties.

Posted by: wheatie at November 29, 2012 07:30 PM (CM59X)

265 "259 @256
Ospender WANTS to go over the fiscal hump because what he really wants is tax raises on the middle class.


THIS. Exactly. The middle class is where the $$$ is. It's always been about going after the middle class.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:27 PM (iKSAz) "

It's not only about the $$$. It's also about teh Equality. Lowest Common-Denominator Equality. The worst Equality power can "buy."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:31 PM (L7dvG)

266 Burn baby burn, disco inferno!

Posted by: Evan Maughan at November 29, 2012 07:31 PM (jQEGf)

267 Man, he's not even pretending to be magnanimous anymore.

Humans, as a species, have very short term and highly selective memories. Witness the attitudes of some Americans after the Revolution. We had just fought a costly, exhaustive 6 year war to rid ourselves of the yoke of monarchy and yet after victory there were numerous calls among the people to anoint Washington "His Majesty George I."

The memories of free peoples must be refreshed from time to time with the miseries of their own mistakes. LIB.

Posted by: MorphysGhost at November 29, 2012 07:32 PM (tDieS)

268 Dear Mr. President,
We have reviewed your proposal for averting the impending fiscal crisis and, having carefully considered the plan that you outline in that letter, we respond as follows:
In response to your point #1 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #2 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #3 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #4 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #5 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #6 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #7 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #8 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
In response to your point #9 - Fuck you. Let it burn.
We appreciate in advance your careful consideration of our resonse, and we look forward to hearing any further proposals that you might have concerning these fiscal issues.

Yours truly
The 70+% of Americans who did NOT vote for your sorry ass.

Posted by: Lessons from the Ceramic Throne at November 29, 2012 07:32 PM (ze9yk)

269 "263 Boehner, McConnell and the others should force SCOAMF to put it in writing and mail it to every conservative blog.

Rush was right, he wants it to go down and no republican should have any fingerprints on it!

Posted by: CarolT at November 29, 2012 07:29 PM (z4WKX) "

Make him "own" his "success."

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:32 PM (L7dvG)

270 262 238 I have this weird sense that the whole country is on edge~waiting for the new "Shot heard round the world."


Half the country maybe. The other half is sucking on Uncle Sugars teets.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 29, 2012 07:29 PM (15w2J)

No...even that half is on edge. Even tho they won, they are more pissed off than ever. Occupy is the prelude to the direction that half will go.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:33 PM (iKSAz)

271 That's the winning strategy: give him what he wants on the fiscal cliff, then no raising the debt ceiling. Make it a moral issue.

Posted by: mr.midnight at November 29, 2012 07:35 PM (Kv/xV)

272 "270 262 238 I have this weird sense that the whole country is on edge~waiting for the new "Shot heard round the world."


Half the country maybe. The other half is sucking on Uncle Sugars teets.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 29, 2012 07:29 PM (15w2J)

No...even that half is on edge. Even tho they won, they are more pissed off than ever. Occupy is the prelude to the direction that half will go.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:33 PM (iKSAz) "

The Red Guard.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:36 PM (L7dvG)

273
Sympleton, here we are again. I agree that the media must be overcome somehow. I think what you really need, though, instead of just a boycott from watching NBC, is a boycott of the sponsors of or advertisers on NBC. Make them suffer even more financially.

Now, where do we get a list of companies that advertise on NBC?

Also, I'm ready for action instead of talk, too. I reregistered as an Independent to show my contempt for the GOP bigwigs, but I want to get actively involved in a cause.

Posted by: Marmo at November 29, 2012 07:37 PM (pcgW1)

274 Later, all.

God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:37 PM (L7dvG)

275 Well, the black market is the (inevitable) Free Market, so there really is that. Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 29, 2012 07:20 PM (L7dvG) I like this. Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:24 PM (iKSAz)


------------------------------------------------


Perhaps. But black markets inevitably bring mafia-like fiefdoms to many areas. And they're usually brutal.

Posted by: Soona at November 29, 2012 07:37 PM (oy/E2)

276 Later, Mirror. Gotta go myself and get dinner on for the family.

Posted by: Jypsea Rose is @AmericanGypsea at November 29, 2012 07:38 PM (iKSAz)

277 1) Wash your hands.
2) Walk away.
3) Let it burn.
4) Start over in about twenty years after the plagues run their course.

Posted by: Sam_Shortbread at November 29, 2012 07:42 PM (UcmWU)

278 Walk the fuck away Repunks!
Walk and make the Rats PASS IT!
Make the RAT BASTARDS OWN IT!
Walk and DO NOT VOTE!
MAKE THEM OWN THE CRASH!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at November 29, 2012 07:46 PM (SBzdn)

279
I understand LIB--but to me it translates to quitting on my country. Can't bring myself to that idea, hard as I try.

Not all that sure if we'll persevere. But it wont be for lack of effort should we not.

Need some time to think this through some more, looks like.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 29, 2012 07:48 PM (SAMxH)

280 It's gone from "I won't come in your mouth" to, "I'm going A2M, coming in your mouth, then I'm banging your sister, and maybe we can hook up again some time."

Posted by: Eric J. at November 29, 2012 07:54 PM (hXS7D)

281 279
I understand LIB--but to me it translates to quitting on my country. Can't bring myself to that idea, hard as I try.

Not all that sure if we'll persevere. But it wont be for lack of effort should we not.

Need some time to think this through some more, looks like.


Have you ever read Atlas Shrugged? Your struggle sounds a lot like what Hank Rearden and Dagny Taggart went through.

Posted by: rickl at November 29, 2012 07:55 PM (sdi6R)

282 Was this proposal after the magnanimous WON had lunch with TEH Mittens.

I can't wait to see his proposal after lunch, at the buffet of course, with Christie Cream!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at November 29, 2012 07:55 PM (SBzdn)

283 Here is my counter offer, see this middle finger?

Posted by: Jay at November 29, 2012 07:58 PM (kIH56)

284 I AM THE GOD OF HELL FIRE!!!...

Posted by: Arthur Brown at November 29, 2012 07:59 PM (CfGGV)

285 "I understand LIB--but to me it translates to quitting on my country."

The country you're worried about has been gone for quite a while now.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 29, 2012 08:04 PM (GZitp)

286 >>> Marmo said: "instead of just a boycott from watching NBC, is a boycott of the sponsors of or advertisers on NBC. Make them suffer even more financially."

Advertisers determine how much they'll pay to a network using ratings. Ratings means - how many people are watching. If we take half of their viewers away, the advertisers go away, or they buy the ad space for much less. It's all about ratings.

Boycotting NBC is much simpler than trying to figure out who all of NBC's advertisers are. And it could be that those companies are fairly innocent in all this. For example, I imagine Chik-Fil-A advertises with NBC.

Posted by: sympleton at November 29, 2012 08:06 PM (cVYiZ)

287 It would be hard to over-estimate the contempt I have for this narcissistic prick in the WH, and the growing contempt I have for half the electorate for falling for his bullshit.

Fuck it. Let it burn.

Posted by: Gib at November 29, 2012 08:09 PM (ksDpE)

288 Deliberate destruction followed by authoritarian socialism (best case).

Posted by: SamIam at November 29, 2012 08:13 PM (S09w5)

289
how many times did Reagan shut it down...

SHUT IT DOWN...

The House has only one lever versus Obama, that's the debt ceiling, (the budget hasn't be a factor in 4 years now)

He has an idea for a Reichstag fire - and this offer is basically saying 'I'll stop paying the military if you don't cave'....

Thank the lord I'm in Texas... The rest of you morons, rent a Uhaul before they're sold out....

Posted by: phreshone at November 29, 2012 08:24 PM (0SXI6)

290 167
OK, OK, not "near" traitors.
Flat out anti-American.

Posted by: TV at November 29, 2012 08:28 PM (rw2cM)

291 286> One can do both!

There is no "this or that" mentality and with a simple 3 min search one can identify the advertisers on any given network.

Posted by: Jimmy at November 29, 2012 08:30 PM (eD56C)

292 YA, what you other 290 somethin said!!

Posted by: Rich K at November 29, 2012 08:44 PM (X4l3T)

293 It cannot burn if you do not raise the debt ceiling.


If you want Obama to own it, give him control of the debt ceiling and buy a bunch of gold and bury it in your backyard and wait about 22 months.


We both know they're going raise the debt ceiling until they crash the whole currency anyway. They're sure as hell not going to NOT raise the debt ceiling. It's just going to be republicans pissing off all their voters every 8 months until the debt is 120 trillion and the currency explodes anyway.

Posted by: entropy at November 29, 2012 08:49 PM (YUttk)

294 Boehner was missing
He went into a bathroom stall to cry some more

Posted by: TexasJew at November 29, 2012 09:01 PM (lD8ju)

295 The WarGames Solution

Posted by: Bryan Caskey at November 29, 2012 09:06 PM (kBWdQ)

296 Great, like read this post ATMEGA64

Posted by: ic at November 29, 2012 09:19 PM (IHTrh)

297 Ace, you're getting there slowly so let me know when you move to the violence camp

Posted by: Trump at November 29, 2012 09:19 PM (F8Lnm)

298 nice post

Posted by: electronic components at November 29, 2012 09:21 PM (IHTrh)

299 Talking Heads baby - Burning Down the House. Need to embed the every time you post on this subject Ace!

Posted by: Hari Seldon, Psychohistorian at November 29, 2012 09:33 PM (m7mrm)

300 The video that is...embed it. Damn iPhone.

Posted by: Hari Seldon, Psychohistorian at November 29, 2012 09:34 PM (m7mrm)

301
Let it burn

It has to for the phoenix to rise from the ashes some day.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 29, 2012 10:31 PM (8cOY0)

302 "Fuck you. Let it burn."

Can I just say....I love you Ace

Posted by: kawfytawk at November 29, 2012 10:36 PM (JWLqy)

303 Myself, I won't be satisfied until I see Boehner and McConnell joined on the House floor, accompanied by GOP members of both houses, half of whom are mooning
Teh Won, and the other half giving him The Finger.

If the addled electorate who voted the First Clown in for a second term blame the other party, so be it. We will tell them:

"You made your bed, now lie in it and sob yourselves to sleep in your feculent pillows."

Let the Games begin!

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 30, 2012 12:05 AM (riIMi)

304 Let It Burn....L.I.B.erals and Rino's

Posted by: jstrogen at November 30, 2012 12:42 AM (J4JJa)

305 Fuck you. Let it burn.

Absolutely.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 30, 2012 12:47 AM (jhI6f)

306 The WarGames Solution

What's that, Global Thermonuclear War?

Because I'm starting to warm up to the idea; I live in Chicago, motherfuckers - I can live with cockroaches.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 30, 2012 12:50 AM (jhI6f)

307 For those who say the repubs should walk away so Obama can own it. Since they own the house, how would they do that and anything be passed?

Posted by: biscuits mahoney at November 30, 2012 12:59 AM (avEon)

308 LET. THE. BITCH. BURN.

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at November 30, 2012 02:05 AM (Jls4P)

309 I will move to Ohio tomorrow and vote for Boehner if he holds a press conference tomorrow and announces;

"After much consideration and reflection we have decided that the only hope for our country to avoid this terrible recession we now face is to agree to the plan that President Obama has put forth. But first you will blow me"

Posted by: Cashin at November 30, 2012 02:08 AM (X3awm)

310
Fuck you. Let it burn.

Good. Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at November 30, 2012 09:41 AM (1hM1d)

311 Let it burn...

"Laissez s'écrouler la Baraque i.e. l'édifice" -- (slang)


Posted by: AcidPOP at November 30, 2012 10:34 AM (Q4xaa)

312 Nutz!

Posted by: Ringo at November 30, 2012 11:29 AM (dQ/Oc)

313 For those of you who think we could get MORE blame than the 100% we have now I'd like an explanation. If it collapses at some point it DOES come down to asking how the Republicans are always responsible when they are not in charge of anything but the House. Sorry even with the MSM it gets to be a hard seel at some point that verything is the fault of Republicans. It's time to tell thecountry that told us to f*ck off to f*ck off too. Rush said we need to walk away from playing this game because we really are doomed to lose until we do. The country needs to conclude it can't succeeed without the other 48% of us who actually ARE the core of this country. It sure isn't minorities, single women on welfare and people under 30.

Posted by: Conan at November 30, 2012 11:54 AM (T40H0)

314 Nuke the site from orbit...only way to be sure.

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: BillyShaft at November 30, 2012 12:06 PM (7TwHV)

315 "Fuck you. Let it burn."
Then rub their faces in thefucking ashes- tohell with 'em all.
Ace, you're my hero.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at November 30, 2012 12:48 PM (g+Cz1)






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Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat