Laugh: Washington Post Issues CYA Editorial Calling on Obama To Stop Campaigning And Start Finding Solutions

I say this is CYA because the Post's editorial board would like to think of themselves as the sort of people who put statesmanship above politics, but in fact they supported Barack Obama in this past election, the Man With No Plan.

Now they're surprised that President Campaign Mode is sticking with his woobie of permanent campaign mode?

The Post editorial board, which endorsed Obama in part because “the president understands the urgency of the problems as well as anyone in the country and is committed to solving them in a balanced way,” now warns: “Since his reelection, Mr. Obama has fueled a campaign-style effort to pressure Republicans to give ground on taxes. That’s fine, but it won’t be enough. At some point, he has to prepare the American people — and his own supporters most of all — for the ‘hard decisions’ required to put the country on a sound financial footing. That means spending cuts, it means entitlement reform, it means compromise, it means a balanced solution that will please neither House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) nor Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). Only one person is in a position to make it happen.”

I realize this post seems to undermine the last, in which I said the media never notices the extreme partisan intransigence of the Democrats. But I still think I'm right. There is serious criticism and then there is just positioning oneself so that one can say, at some future point, "Oh, we told the Democrats to compromise too."

The Narrative of the last four years has been "Extremist Republicans won't compromise with the Democrats, who seek compromise and solutions." A couple of "Obama must rise above" editorials don't change that. A river isn't bent by the plunkings of a few raindrops.

Posted by: Ace at 01:45 PM



Comments

1 A cesspool the size of the Indian Ocean isn't emptied with a teaspoon, either.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 28, 2012 01:47 PM (y5uWA)

2 Only one person is in a position to make it happen

Fucking A, is Bret Favre coming back out of retirement?

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 28, 2012 01:48 PM (hNXHo)

3 No problem. Obama's meeting with Romney tomorrow.

Posted by: Cricket at November 28, 2012 01:49 PM (DrC22)

4 Compromising is for losers.

GOP, call your office!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 01:49 PM (zpqa2)

5 A river isn't bent by a handful of raindrops.

All things are possible in Obamatopia, my son!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2012 01:49 PM (sbV1u)

6 WaPo IS the enemy.

Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2012 01:49 PM (YdQQY)

7 Washington Post: Just wait until there is another Republican in the White House, then we will be a real newspaper again.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 28, 2012 01:50 PM (XUKZU)

8 "Only one person is in a position to make it happen."

You guessed it...Frank Stallone.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 28, 2012 01:50 PM (sGU4F)

9 This is just tactical BS. They will call Obama out, and then when he fake-does what they are arguing, Post will shout GREAT JOB!

Posted by: @ParisParamus at November 28, 2012 01:50 PM (oYXGc)

10 LiFB

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 28, 2012 01:50 PM (evdj2)

11 Let's start acting like we are playing our part as the 4th estate.

Posted by: MSS as at Nov 7, 2012 at November 28, 2012 01:50 PM (4eNxd)

12 They are just hedging.

Fact of the matter is Republicans may not cave and let sequestration occur.

Outside chance, but still a chance.

Second rare occurrence- Obama gets the blame for a sequestration deal he and Democrats negotiated. He is still President- right?

So the post writes this little piece of CYA in case Boehner grows some stones, weepy bitch.

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 01:51 PM (GGCsk)

13

I realize this post seems to undermine the last




No way, not in the slightest. If anything, it underscores just how deeply in the tank the media is for Obama.




They are flailing for relevancy, and, like teenagers, they try to puff themselves up and act as though their big crush means nothing to them. It is pretentious posturing, and rightly called out as such. Sycophancy has that effect - sometimes, the sycophant realizes just how pathetic they are, and tries halfheartedly to regain their dignity.




It's pathetic. -_-

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 28, 2012 01:51 PM (FVUmk)

14 Posted by: MSS as at Nov 7, 2012 at November 28, 2012 01:50 PM (4eNxd)

"MSM"

Posted by: MSM as at Nov 7, 2012 at November 28, 2012 01:51 PM (4eNxd)

15 I won. Again. Every Wednesday night is a drunk - assed bbq at the WH. At your expense. Jamie Foxx will be there tonite!

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at November 28, 2012 01:51 PM (wIgpo)

16

A river isn't bent by the plunkings of a few raindrops.


OK, sensei.

That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.



Posted by: imp at November 28, 2012 01:52 PM (UaxA0)

17

Why stop?

The Democrats are pure political animals. They have momentum, why should they stop when they keep pounding the GOP back into 145 seats in the House.

Obama and the Democrats don't care that the bell rang on Nov 6th. They'll keep attacking the Republicans as long as they benefit from it. It's the smart thing to do if you want total power.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 28, 2012 01:52 PM (cdwbr)

18 Sequestration happens , Boner gets blamed, resigned, I fap

Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2012 01:52 PM (LnQr8)

19 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 28, 2012 01:52 PM (5DR1j)

20 That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.

It's not. It's achieved by taking big gulps of liquor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 28, 2012 01:53 PM (5DR1j)

21

“the president understands the urgency of the problems as well as
anyone in the country and is committed to solving them in a balanced
way,”

Why, that makes me laugh my ass off!

See, watch this, it sums up my feelings on this.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://tinyurl.com/59ev94

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunny at November 28, 2012 01:53 PM (cifKq)

22 He keeps campaigning? Methinks he may be desirious of a 3rd term.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 28, 2012 01:53 PM (/jmMj)

23 I thought the sequester was Mitch McConnell's baby.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 28, 2012 01:53 PM (evdj2)

24 Has any moron taken up Obama on his request that we tweet him our views on the tax issue?

Posted by: LASue at November 28, 2012 01:54 PM (pWeX5)

25 BTW, it is a big freaking gamble that Obama is taking.

This whole campaign against the rich will blow up in his face if Republicans hold fast.

We will not only suffer the real affects of sequestration, but we will spend the next few months talking about how "taxing the rich" would only cover about 1/12 of Mr. Obama's annual deficits. Which he refused to reduce.

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 01:54 PM (GGCsk)

26 That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.

Fap on, fap off.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 28, 2012 01:54 PM (evdj2)

27 GIVE THE LIBS WHAT THEY WANT! Give them the damn tax increases. Let the Dems own it. Tell Grover to stick it up his @ss. This is the only chance the GOP will have to prove its right on taxes and if it blows this, it won't even have the House in 2014.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 28, 2012 01:55 PM (dZ756)

28 No solutions


Please stop finding solutions.

....That means spending cuts, it means entitlement reform,.....

So their pushing the socon approach. From a socialist.

Posted by: eleven - Go Raiders!!!!! at November 28, 2012 01:55 PM (KXm42)

29 >>>I realize this post seems to undermine the last, in which I said the media never notices the extreme partisan intransigence of the Democrats


The exception that demonstrates the rule, I think.

Posted by: Truman North at November 28, 2012 01:55 PM (I2LwF)

30 Forward!

...over the fiscal cliff.

Posted by: Fritz at November 28, 2012 01:55 PM (/ZZCn)

31 If you think for one second the GOP is not going to cave and give the SCOAMF and the Donks 90-100% of what they want, well you just have not been paying attention the last 4 years.


Posted by: General Woundwort at November 28, 2012 01:56 PM (RrD4h)

32 "10
LiFB"

=?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 28, 2012 01:56 PM (PMGbu)

33 >>>22 He keeps campaigning? Methinks he may be desirious of a 3rd term.

Why run at all when you can just declare yourself King?

Towards the end of 2016, I'm anticipating at least one major news piece from a supposed 'smart' liberal calling for such action.

Posted by: El Kabong, RINOINO at November 28, 2012 01:56 PM (sGU4F)

34 No, if Boehner folds and gives in- he's finished.

That will be the last straw for many card carrying Republicans who will leave the party. That includes me and my family.

If Republicans lose the tax issue, they stand for NOTHING.

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 01:56 PM (GGCsk)

35 At some point, he has to prepare the American people — and his own supporters most of all — for the ‘hard decisions’ required to put the country on a sound financial footing. That means spending cuts, it means entitlement reform, it means compromise, it means a balanced solution

Why? Why must Obama prepare anyone for any of that? When it all happens, his ass-sniffing media lapdogs will cover for him and blame the Republicans. He doesnt' have to do a damn thing.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, rooting for SMOD or the Mayans, whichever comes first at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (4df7R)

36 LiFB"=?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at November 28, 2012 01:56 PM (PMGbu)


Let it fucking burn.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, rooting for SMOD or the Mayans, whichever comes first at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (4df7R)

37
Raising taxes on the rich is just a scam.

After that doesn't fix anything, O will regretfully say now they've done their fair share, the middle class is gonna have to do theirs.

The yute voted for this fraud prez by big numbers. Give 'em what they voted for: massive, crushing debt that will ruin their dreams.

Posted by: Invictus at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (OQpzc)

38 LiFB = Let it Fucking Burn

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (zpqa2)

39


20
That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.

It's not. It's achieved by taking big gulps of liquor.


I know Allen. That's what I meant. I should have said "That's JUST like saying . . ."

Posted by: imp at November 28, 2012 01:58 PM (UaxA0)

40 Look at California dude.

They just keep destroying the state and keep voting for more salting.

They are completely losing their tax base as continue to confiscate money from productive people. Pretty soon that piggy bank will run out.

They have the worst SP bond rating of any state.

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 01:59 PM (GGCsk)

41 That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.

Posted by: imp at November 28, 2012 01:52 PM (UaxA0)


May I please refer you to our Summer '10 Issue?

Posted by: Moron Lifestyle Quarterly at November 28, 2012 01:59 PM (nKQYl)

42 Raising taxes on the rich is just a scam.

After
that doesn't fix anything, O will regretfully say now they've done
their fair share, the middle class is gonna have to do theirs.

The
yute voted for this fraud prez by big numbers. Give 'em what they voted
for: massive, crushing debt that will ruin their dreams.

Posted by: Invictus at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (OQpzc)

Not only will that not fix anything, it will put the pedal down a little further.I'm game.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (zpqa2)

43 LiFB = Let it Fucking Burn

Yep. New Super LiB, with twice the spittle of your regular LiB.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (evdj2)

44
Of course Beohner is gonna cave. He has no choice.

He's not an idiot. He knows that he cannot allow taxes rates to increase on the middle class. The GOP will be wiped out in 2014 if that happens.


Posted by: soothsayer at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (cdwbr)

45 WaPo, SCOAMF, et. al.: STFU

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (EKr9U)

46 The yute voted for this fraud prez by big numbers. Give 'em what they voted for: massive, crushing debt that will ruin their dreams.
Posted by: Invictus at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (OQpzc)


I don't want to just ruin their dreams. I want them to feel real, physical pain when they even remember that they HAD dreams.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, rooting for SMOD or the Mayans, whichever comes first at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (4df7R)

47 Okay... I'm out. I've been sick since Sunday. Worked from home the last two days, tried to make it work in the office today... but no.

I'll see y'all tomorrow.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (5DR1j)

48 Mr. Obama does exude an air of likeability, no question.

Posted by: Mitt Romney, Fail Czar at November 28, 2012 02:01 PM (Ks4nX)

49 Even better, Susan Rice is being thrown under the bus. Dowd, the ginger mick at NY Slime, basically calls her a liar.


Chris Mathews gave up on her yesterday.


I love to hear the "lamentations of their womyn".

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 28, 2012 02:02 PM (wR+pz)

50 My message to the WaPo is that they are getting exactly what they wanted - if they don't like it, too damn bad; you reap what you sow.

The pity is that they won't learn anything from this.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at November 28, 2012 02:02 PM (XjXIN)

51 >Of course Beohner is gonna cave. He has no choice.



He's not an idiot. He knows that he cannot allow taxes rates to
increase on the middle class. The GOP will be wiped out in 2014 if that
happens.
<

No he is an idiot. What is alternative? Raising taxes on a segment of the population with no real spending cuts?

Obama said the Bush Tax Cuts were "for the rich".

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 02:02 PM (GGCsk)

52
Yep. New Super LiB, with twice the spittle of your regular LiB.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (evdj2)


Now hold on a jiffy.

I thought the super LiB was MiB o.O

We shall compromise with MiFB.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 28, 2012 02:03 PM (FVUmk)

53 18
Sequestration happens , Boner gets blamed, resigned, I fap

Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2012 01:52 PM (LnQr

Give them what they want. Watch it burn.

Posted by: joncelli at November 28, 2012 02:03 PM (RD7QR)

54
I'm still waiting for these MFers in DC to cut an actual $1, that's one dollar less in FY13 than was spent in FY12.

Not one of those fantasy cuts, but actually spend $1 less.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 28, 2012 02:03 PM (n/ubI)

55

Give the Democrats their Obama Tax Hikes, put an expiration date on the rates, AND make Reid promise he will pass a budget this year.

That's how Boehner and McConnell play this. It's their only play.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 28, 2012 02:03 PM (cdwbr)

56 I don't know how many times I need to repeat this:

Once you understand that liberals are not interested in solutions, but instead interested in provoking a crisis that justifies new, bigger, better, not-solutions, their actions make sense.

An international economic crisis is needed to create international socialism.

They've been writing these things down in books for 120 years.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 28, 2012 02:04 PM (ThQzX)

57 Spending cuts that aren't.

Extension of tax cuts that isn't.

Posted by: Soon at November 28, 2012 02:04 PM (zpqa2)

58 3
No problem. Obama's meeting with Romney tomorrow.


Yeah, WTF is with that? What is the purpose it that? To use Mitt as a prop?


I think it is stupid and degrading for Mitt to even think of going to lunch with that asshole.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 28, 2012 02:04 PM (wR+pz)

59 Hmmm, didn't they get the memo? NEVER mention Harry Reid. When mentioning congress its best to only mention McConnel, and always in the form of blame.

Posted by: Whatev at November 28, 2012 02:04 PM (2t6Gz)

60 I don't want to just ruin their dreams. I want them to feel real, physical pain when they even remember that they HAD dreams.

Fuckem

Posted by: eleven - Go Raiders!!!!! at November 28, 2012 02:04 PM (KXm42)

61 This Obama is the new Tsar then?

Posted by: toby928© ask you to name that mangled quote at November 28, 2012 02:06 PM (evdj2)

62 The moron lifestyle:

Bottle of Val-U-Rite, straw, mouth.

Some assembly required,

Posted by: Marmo at November 28, 2012 02:06 PM (QW+AD)

63
Lay off, ace. He's just laying the groundwork for the 2016 campaign.

Blaming Obama is simple, but Obama beating Obama is going to be tough.

Posted by: MJ at November 28, 2012 02:06 PM (TR60b)

64 The post says Obama is committed to solving a problem?

Have they been paying any attention to the USS Failboat in action the last 4 years? HE IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

Posted by: Mr pink at November 28, 2012 02:06 PM (gILAa)

65 I'm still waiting for these MFers in DC to cut an actual $1, that's one dollar less in FY13 than was spent in FY12.

Not one of those fantasy cuts, but actually spend $1 less.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 28, 2012 02:03 PM (n/ubI)

Never. Happen.
It's just a game and we're being played.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:07 PM (zpqa2)

66 I think I'll have the Cucumber 'n Mayonnaise sandwich for lunch tomorrow.

Posted by: Mitt Romney, Fail Czar at November 28, 2012 02:07 PM (Ks4nX)

67 Boehner has again said no new taxes. I don't think he has the votes. As to 2014, that's a lifetime away in politics.

Posted by: eureka!-LIFBer at November 28, 2012 02:07 PM (UL+ny)

68 Hope you feel better soon, AllenG!!

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 28, 2012 02:07 PM (boNGU)

69 May I please refer you to our Summer '10 Issue? Posted by: Moron Lifestyle Quarterly at November 28, 2012 01:59 PM (nKQYl)

Wait. So...you mean....there really is a newsletter??

Is there also a cut and a jib?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 28, 2012 02:08 PM (sbV1u)

70 I don't think "We're gonna cave so hard a Star Wars Special Edition explosion ring is gonna fly out our ass" and "When that ring flies out their ass, it's Obama's halo" are contradictory messages.

Posted by: oblig. at November 28, 2012 02:08 PM (cePv8)

71 66
I think I'll have the Cucumber 'n Mayonnaise sandwich for lunch tomorrow.


Mitt, I know you don't drink, but I have some killer brownies for desert, he he.

Take some home if you want. Don't drive.

Posted by: Barry's Black half at November 28, 2012 02:08 PM (wR+pz)

72 community organizin' ain't presidentin'?

who knew?

Posted by: PR at November 28, 2012 02:09 PM (KHo8t)

73 At some point, he has to prepare the American people — and his own
supporters most of all — for the ‘hard decisions’ required to put the
country on a sound financial footing. That means spending cuts, it means
entitlement reform, it means compromise, it means a balanced solution


No, in his world, he doesn't. Both Obama and the post come from the world of the theoretical, of the faculty lounge posture. None of these people has the slightest experience with, or interest in, the world of consequences. Just like they think you can legislate cars that get 60 miles a gallon, physical reality means nothing, because they recognize no limits on their power.

Insty has a link to an article describing a new trend in video games: permadeath. IOW, there are no more endless resurrections. It makes the game experience more real and more intense. Barry has never played a game where the consequences are real, so he doesn't understand that his policies hurt real people. Also, he doesn't care. Either/or.

Posted by: pep at November 28, 2012 02:09 PM (6TB1Z)

74 Lifb.

No more Continuing Resolutions. Shut the entire democratic-governmental aparatus down and defund the Dem patronage system.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 28, 2012 02:10 PM (ThQzX)

75 Let it Burn.

Secession.

???????

New United States with all 50 states Now Red.

PROFIT!

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs are Really SMOD in Disguise at November 28, 2012 02:10 PM (16UJh)

76 remember when the Progressive Party was terribly concerned about spending and cutting the deficit in half? and illegal wars!
Then their guy doubles down on the deficit and extends actual Illegal war!while they sling flower peddles at His feet ?

we have half the population buy every drop of cht and love it!

washington post writes for that half, so they may continue wth their charade of peace (war) , love (hate), for raw power.

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (hX8cq)

77 Of course Beohner is gonna cave. He has no choice.



He's not an idiot. He knows that he cannot allow taxes rates to

increase on the middle class. The GOP will be wiped out in 2014 if that

happens.



1. GOP caves, taxes get raised on the middle class, GOP gets blamed and we're screwed.

OR

2. GOP holds firm, negotiations collapse, Bush tax cuts expire, GOP gets blamed for intransigence and we're screwed.

When you're the GOP, every option ends in "we're screwed."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (QKKT0)

78 67 Boehner has again said no new taxes. I don't think he has the votes.

Boehner shouldn't have the job.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (CofEF)

79
As I've said many times, Obama's actions can always be explained by, in order of importance: (1) narcissism (2) socialism (3) anti-colonialism (4) cronyism.

The continuing campaigning is 100%because of the narcissim. He HAS TO be in front of an adoring crowd whenever possible.

As to all the "fiscal cliff" nonsense, refer to item (2). As a commited socialist, all this talking with business leaders is crap(except to the extent that (4) applies). First of all, he stood up the small business people, too busy with his adoring crowds, and secondly their concerns will fall upon deaf ears. It's a photo op.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (Mxt9o)

80 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama's going to ask Mitt about a wife swap

Posted by: Cricket at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (DrC22)

81 Please, please, pass a bill eliminating the spending ceiling.

It's more obstructionist than the rethugs.

LiFB

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:12 PM (zpqa2)

82 Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 01:56 PM (GGCsk)

Yup... this is a situation of BOEHNER's creation.... its he deal HE helped broker and agreed to...

Why we expect him now to FIX anything?

That there was no Leadership change in the GOP after the election.... after getting WHACKED... shows they don't understand HOW to win...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2012 02:12 PM (lZBBB)

83 I love this line which the fapping press repeats like good parrots;

>The
president’s public plan so far is to extend the Bush-era tax cuts for
the 98 percent of Americans who earn less than $250,000 per year. The
plan would result in tax increases for the country’s highest earners,
who Republicans say have the ability to create job<

98% of Americans don't pay taxes.

Pop quiz; what percentage of Americans who actually pay taxes and earn under $250k per year are affected by raising the Bush Tax cuts?

It sure as hell ain't 98%.

Freakin propagandists. It's math.

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 02:12 PM (GGCsk)

84
GIVE THE LIBS WHAT THEY WANT! Give them the damn tax increases. Let the
Dems own it. Tell Grover to stick it up his @ss. This is the only chance
the GOP will have to prove its right on taxes and if it blows this, it
won't even have the House in 2014.


Posted by: SFGoth at November 28, 2012 01:55 PM (dZ756)



I don't say the GOP should vote for tax increases, I say they should all vote "present."




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:12 PM (bb5+k)

85 “the president understands the urgency of the problems as well as anyone
in the country and is committed to solving them in a balanced way,”...

...it means a balanced solution that will please neither House Speaker John
A. Boehner (R-Ohio) nor Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).
Only one person is in a position to make it happen.”


So by "balanced", they mean "Whatever Obama gets around to proposing between rounds of golf and baby kissing, because he's all about 'balance'". If Boehner doesn't completely roll over and give Obama exactly what he wants, it won't be a "balanced solution".

And no, Boehner isn't going to blindly sign off on Obama's theoretical proposal. At the very least he'll have to save face by insisting on some little crumb thrown his way.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 28, 2012 02:13 PM (SY2Kh)

86 This is not off-topic. The political considerations behind the whole cliff setup is here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cxu8dm8
Remember that budgets, race, 'fairness', or any other pie-in-the-sky BS, only act as a fulcrum for the larger Communist agenda, i.e., enlarging the State and shrinking Liberty.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 28, 2012 02:14 PM (1V6Pv)

87 Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama's going to ask Mitt about a wife swap

Posted by: Cricket at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (DrC22)

Hold on, chief.

Posted by: Herman 999 Cain at November 28, 2012 02:14 PM (zpqa2)

88 I'z don't need to do no compromizin'... I'z wants my peeps to be getting their Skillet-shittin' Unicorns and they's Obamaphones and all of that other free shit that I'z promized them.

Bein' preezy is so damn hard....

Posted by: Choomer in Chief at November 28, 2012 02:14 PM (Jls4P)

89 "Boehner's Gonna Cave" would make a nifty name for a rock song

Posted by: Cricket at November 28, 2012 02:15 PM (DrC22)

90 And no, Boehner isn't going to blindly sign off on Obama's theoretical proposal. At the very least he'll have to save face by insisting on some little crumb thrown his way.

Procedure changes is an old favorite of Boehner's.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 28, 2012 02:15 PM (CofEF)

91 If all that's standing between us and tyranny is Boehner, BOHICA.

Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 02:16 PM (GGCsk)

92
Oh, and the Chief among the "Thelma and Louise" crowd is President Fabian Socialist, himself.

So, "do the math". The PresidentWANTS an economic crisis, and he has already set up the Republicans to take the fall. The Senate is on board with the President. If the Republicans cave, then they're Democrats and get kicked out of office anyway.

Fasten your seat belt, and hope the the Fiscal Cliff (TM) has been over-hyped.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 28, 2012 02:16 PM (Mxt9o)

93 Raising taxes on the rich is just a scam.

After
that doesn't fix anything, O will regretfully say now they've done
their fair share, the middle class is gonna have to do theirs.

The
yute voted for this fraud prez by big numbers. Give 'em what they voted
for: massive, crushing debt that will ruin their dreams.

Posted by: Invictus at November 28, 2012 01:57 PM (OQpzc)

The requirement of paying taxes to enable someone to vote was a negative feedback system for fiscal stability. Now that we have non-taxpayers voting, we get a fiscally irresponsible government.

No Representation without Taxation!!!!!!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:16 PM (bb5+k)

94 54 I'm still waiting for these MFers in DC to cut an actual $1, that's one dollar less in FY13 than was spent in FY12.

Not one of those fantasy cuts, but actually spend $1 less.


And you know what gets me - with the hyper-inflated magic superbaseline that now includes all war spending, bullshit stimulus and everything else........

...it REALLY wouldn't be that hard to do. I'm confident a mid-1990s Bill Clinton could and would have done it with assistance from a GOP House.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 28, 2012 02:17 PM (hNXHo)

95
Look at California dude.

They just keep destroying the state and keep voting for more salting.

They
are completely losing their tax base as continue to confiscate money
from productive people. Pretty soon that piggy bank will run out.

They have the worst SP bond rating of any state.


Posted by: Marcus at November 28, 2012 01:59 PM (GGCsk)

And they can't burn down fast enough to suit me.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:17 PM (bb5+k)

96 I think it is stupid and degrading for Mitt to even think of going to lunch with that asshole.


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 28, 2012 02:04 PM (wR+pz)
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Yes, it is stupid and degrading for Mitt to go to that lunch -- but what could he do, decline the invitation and let the Obama administration "leak" that tidbit to the press (hell, they leak national security info to the press all the time, they wouldn't hesitate to leak Mitt declining the "gracious" lunch invite)? That would have been worse because it would give Obama/the MSM "proof" that the GOP is a bunch of "sore losers" who aren't interested in "reaching across the aisle" and compromise for the good of the country.

The only thing Romney *could* do is allow himself to be degraded as a prop for Obama to try to pretend he is being a bipartisan leader.

Posted by: angienc at November 28, 2012 02:18 PM (w3JGl)

97
Yep, I know HH. I just wanted to point out how ridiculous this so called negotiation is.

From my new book which I am not actually writing:

The public watched in anticipatory horror waiting for the fiscal closet to open revealing the great tax-raise monster, yet not noticing the federal mafia behind them ready to unleash a deathly massacre from their Spending Uzis.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 28, 2012 02:19 PM (n/ubI)

98 No Representation without Taxation!!!!!!
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:16 PM (bb5+k)

I'm in.

What would we call the new party?

Posted by: Invictus at November 28, 2012 02:19 PM (OQpzc)

99 gop- we will allow a tax increase deal if budget cuts are included.

progressive-ok, we will raise the deficit by another trillion, but the budget will be cut by 400 billion, add back in 300 billion ,hanky panky to pay off something or other hidden costs , so deficit is cut by 100 billion to be paid for by the filthy rich guys before they leave the US to do business elsewhere next year.

gop- see people we are doing the job you sent us for!

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2012 02:19 PM (hX8cq)

100 All they need to do to accomplish spending cuts is make up a number and say they were planning on spending it, and now they aren't. Instead GOP-approved spending cuts.

Now eat your pabulum and get back to work, serfs.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:20 PM (zpqa2)

101 Instead = "Instant"

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:20 PM (zpqa2)

102 Was anyone in the media suggesting that Reagan sat down with Mondale back in 1984? What about insisting that Bush 43 sat down with Gore or Kerry? Did they demand that Bill Clinton sit down with Bob Dole?

This is all giving me a serious case of acute WTF-itis. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but then again nothing emanating form the MSM does anymore.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 28, 2012 02:21 PM (hNXHo)

103 The Washington Post is simply part of the Democratic Party, which has been taken over by hardcore leftists. I guess this editorial might have been written by one of its older editorial writers who didn't get the memo. It's completely laughable if you have actually read the paper or the website over the last 4 years.

These old-fashioned liberals on the Post's editorial board continue to think that if they just rub their eyes hard enough, Barack Obama will somehow turn into an old-fashioned liberal like them who actually wants to get something done for the country. But he won't. He's a community organizer, otherwise known as a professional left-wing agitator, and this is what they do. There is never a real goal, only the fight, and the fight must continue no matter what.

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2012 02:21 PM (NYnoe)

104 So will Obama at the luncheon, Treat Mitt as He did Paul Ryan? or the way He treated the Scotus?

Posted by: willow at November 28, 2012 02:21 PM (hX8cq)

105 I heard Obama presented his economic plan tohis advisorstoday.One keyaspect is the purchase of one million powerball lottery tickets. Obama wanted to buy 500 million lottery ticketsbut his staff talked him out of it.

Posted by: polynikes at November 28, 2012 02:22 PM (m2CN7)

106 No Representation without Taxation!!!!!!



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:16 PM (bb5+k)


Been saying that for a couple of years now... LOL...

The Founders KNEW the dangers of a pure Democracy, so they did NOT Create one... now we see their Fears realized....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2012 02:23 PM (lZBBB)

107 "A mans gotta know his limitations." Same for an empty chair.

Posted by: Clint at November 28, 2012 02:24 PM (71LDo)

108 The right needs to harp on the #9MoreDays meme. That's what the ''taxing of the rich" does for government spending but nobody realizes it.

Posted by: Roy at November 28, 2012 02:24 PM (VndSC)

109 I'm in.



What would we call the new party?

Posted by: Invictus at November 28, 2012 02:19 PM (OQpzc)

I have no problem with it being called "The Tea Party". I don't care that the media has attempted to denigrate the label.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:25 PM (bb5+k)

110 1. GOP caves, taxes get raised on the middle class, GOP gets blamed and we're screwed.OR2. GOP holds firm, negotiations collapse, Bush tax cuts expire, GOP gets blamed for intransigence and we're screwed.When you're the GOP, every option ends in "we're screwed."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (QKKT0)


---------------------------------------------------


The DC repubs brought this on themselves. There's no one else to blame. They had all the power they needed prior to 2007 and they blew it.

We should start focusing our attention on the power of the states. Those of us fortunate enough to live in red states need to start encouraging our governors and legislators to push away the DC mandates. For those of you living in blue states, either consider moving or consider yourselves perpetually fucked.

Posted by: Soona at November 28, 2012 02:25 PM (HGw4L)

111 Best thing teh Mitt could do at this point would be to dance out after lunch onto the North Portico Gangnam Style! "Op- Op- Oppan gang-namseutayil!"

Posted by: Thorvald at November 28, 2012 02:25 PM (1V6Pv)

112 It's pretty clear to anyone with a brain that the experiment in self-government is in a new phase. Specifically, the phase which will lead to its destruction and eventual rebirth.

Let's get on with it.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:25 PM (zpqa2)

113
The other ridiculous part is that supposedly sequestration will actually cut something, but there is NO BUDGET to cut from.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 28, 2012 02:26 PM (n/ubI)

114 Republicans stand for nothing but racism and supporting the rich.
Only Barack Obama can save America, and if only you vile peasants and your foolish "Representatives" would stop trying to keep him from doing so....

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 28, 2012 02:26 PM (jCQ+I)

115 Maybe Romney's meeting with Jugears like Nixon met with Kennedy after the 1960 election? "We know you stole this thing . . . "

Posted by: tsj017 at November 28, 2012 02:27 PM (4YUWF)

116
A river isn't bent by the plunkings of a few raindrops.

Damn, Ace. That's deep, man.
I may have to get that tattooed on my ass.

Posted by: bacadog at November 28, 2012 02:27 PM (TE1kh)

117 16

A river isn't bentbytheplunkings ofa few raindrops.

OK, sensei.
That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.

But it IS by fapping. Repeatedly.

Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at November 28, 2012 02:27 PM (GFM2b)

118 The Long Game here is to win back control of the House and keep the Senate.

Democrats now believe they have a permanent lock on the Electoral College, and all that is standing between them and liberal Utopia is the Republicans in control of the House. They think that by pushing and pushing for what they know is an irrelevant tax increase on afew rich people, and tying this to a huge tax increase on the middle class that nobody wants, they can get some Republicans to cave and split the party. Every Republican who votes for this tax increase will be labed a Judas and a RINO and get primaried, their thinking goes. This will lead to more Sharron Angles and Richard Mourdocks, who they can easily beat.

Posted by: rockmom at November 28, 2012 02:27 PM (qE3AR)

119 The Founders KNEW the dangers of a pure Democracy, so they did NOT Create one... now we see their Fears realized....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2012 02:23 PM (lZBBB)

The founders were more afraid of Democracy than they were of Monarchy. One of the lesser famous ones ( I don't recall who any longer) supposedly said: "I'd rather have one King 10,000 miles away, than 10,000 Kings one mile away."


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:27 PM (bb5+k)

120 The founders were more afraid of Democracy than they were of Monarchy.
One of the lesser famous ones ( I don't recall who any longer)
supposedly said: "I'd rather have one King 10,000 miles away, than
10,000 Kings one mile away."



That was Dennehy.

Posted by: eleven - Go Raiders!!!!! at November 28, 2012 02:29 PM (KXm42)

121 112 It's pretty clear to anyone with a brain that the experiment in self-government is in a new phase. Specifically, the phase which will lead to its destruction and eventual rebirth

I strongly suspect our future following a collapse would be a Strongman dictator, a Sulla, Cromwell, or Stalin.

But in terms of the coming misery, it will be like Post-Soviet Russia. Gangsters, phoney elections, and a substantially lower standard of living.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 28, 2012 02:29 PM (g2ldK)

122 OK, sensei. That's like telling us that the moron lifestyle isn't achieved by taking sips of liquor.


But it IS by fapping. Repeatedly. Posted by: rickb223 Let. It. Burn. at November 28, 2012 02:27 PM (GFM2b)


Focus, Ace. Be at one with the cosmos.

Now.....what is the sound of one hand fapping?

Posted by: Master Po at November 28, 2012 02:31 PM (sbV1u)

123 It's pretty clear to anyone with a brain that the
experiment in self-government is in a new phase. Specifically, the phase
which will lead to its destruction and eventual rebirth.

Let's get on with it.


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:25 PM (zpqa2)


I and a friend were discussing the end of the Roman Empire. Specifically how towards the end the Cities were offering free Bread and Circuses resulting in people abandoning farms and flocking into the cities where they too could live a life of idle leisure. I pointed out that "Welfare and Television" are pretty much the modern equivalent of "Bread and Circuses."

We are simply going down the same path that the Roman's took.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:31 PM (bb5+k)

124 Usually after an election there is a (very) brief period of hand wringing when the media prints a (very) few columns wondering if maybe they were slanted slightly too much in one direction, and some acknowledging that maybe, just maybe, a few of them were playing favorites just a bit. Ah yes, they were in love, and we all know that love can make fools of all of us.

This mewling mea culpa, after years of a constant drumbeat favoring the Democrat.

I like the drops of rain analogy. I've thought of a few over time, but this is the best one.

Posted by: RM at November 28, 2012 02:31 PM (TRsME)

125
The politicians from both parties will continue as they have for 50 years. They will show up sweating just in time with a half-baked nothing of an agreement to kick the can down the road.


Doing something that would make a difference would be much too painful and would result in a very angry populace.


Look to Japan and Europe to see our future.

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 28, 2012 02:32 PM (1Y+hH)

126 They will show up sweating just in time with a half-baked nothing of an agreement to kick the can down the road.

The problem is that the bridge ahead is out.

Posted by: toby928© ask you to name that mangled quote at November 28, 2012 02:33 PM (evdj2)

127 Every Republican who votes for this tax increase will be labed a Judas and a RINO and get primaried, their thinking goes.

All one would need to make this (honestly, pretty effective plan) reality is a sympathetic and sycophantic medi...

Fuck.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 28, 2012 02:34 PM (hNXHo)

128
No Representation without Taxation!!!!!!


Where can I get that on a bumper sticker?

Posted by: Huusker at November 28, 2012 02:34 PM (PaKLC)

129 The Washington Post doesn't understand that the GOP is trying to put y'all back in chains.

I tried to explain it to a couple of WaPo reporters, but they wouldn't sit on my lap for a chat.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 28, 2012 02:34 PM (xvtYZ)

130
That was Dennehy.


Posted by: eleven - Go Raiders!!!!! at November 28, 2012 02:29 PM (KXm42)

Brian Dennehy, or someone else? I've been trying to find out for quite some time who said that. When I ran across it for the first time it was labeled as having been said by a founder.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:34 PM (bb5+k)

131 Bevel and Diogenes

Yep. Human nature does not change. Only the furnishings change.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:35 PM (zpqa2)

132 Reportedly said by Mather Byles, Cotton Mather's Grandson, said this to Nathaniel Emmons in Massachusetts.

(trade tyrants quote)

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:37 PM (zpqa2)

133 Also I think it was Mel Gibson in The Patriot who said it in fictionalized account.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:38 PM (zpqa2)

134 "I'd rather have one King 10,000 miles away, than 10,000 Kings one mile away."


The actual quote was from Mel Gibson in The patriot and it was one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants here.


The real historical quote was from Cotton Mather's grandson.

Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2012 02:39 PM (YdQQY)

135 Reportedly said by Mather Byles, Cotton Mather's Grandson, said this to Nathaniel Emmons in Massachusetts.

(trade tyrants quote)


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:37 PM (zpqa2)

That jives with what I remember. Thanks for that.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:39 PM (bb5+k)

136 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mather_Byles

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:40 PM (zpqa2)

137 The problem is that the bridge ahead is out.Posted by: toby928© ask you to name that mangled quote at November 28, 2012 02:33 PM (evdj2)The politicianswill pontoon acrossthat and most of the populacewill haveno idea. They can continue in this way for much longer than the ZeroHedge cheetos crew believes. Decades, in fact.

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 28, 2012 02:41 PM (1Y+hH)

138
The real historical quote was from Cotton Mather's grandson.


Posted by: Vic at November 28, 2012 02:39 PM (YdQQY)

Yup. Found it.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:42 PM (bb5+k)

139 Powdered wigs *rock*.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 28, 2012 02:43 PM (zpqa2)

140 Front Page Above the Fold:

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS THREATEN TO RAISE TAXES ON THE POOR AND SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT BY OBSTRUCTING!!!!



Page C6 4th Editorial second from the bottom split over three pages.

Maybe Obama Should at Least Talk to the Filthy Republicans Before Extending His Middle Finger


Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 28, 2012 02:43 PM (0q2P7)

141 it sucks that each federal spending dollar is linked to a person's soul, like those machines in the matrix, you cut it, grandma dies.

Cause we have to cut spending.

Wish romney had point blank said, you never asked Reid or used your "leadership" to get senate to pass a budget. Senate was reason why we pulling $1T deficits.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now JFK at November 28, 2012 02:44 PM (QxSug)

142 >>>Wish romney had point blank said

I think it would be better for all of us if we just stopped saying those words and just agreed to never nominate another Romney again. This I wish he woulda stuff is just a downer.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 28, 2012 02:47 PM (0q2P7)

143 >>>We are simply going down the same path that the Roman's took.

And since we are the last pillar of western civilization. What praytell does history say happens when we fall?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 28, 2012 02:49 PM (0q2P7)

144 Romney woulda been an awesome president, it's just his strategy was flawed.

Posted by: joeindc44 is now JFK at November 28, 2012 02:53 PM (QxSug)

145
Washington Post Issues CYA Editorial Calling on Obama To Stop Campaigning And Start Finding Solutions

Tomorrow: "Washington Post Issues CYA Editorial Calling on Fish to Stop Swimming"

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 28, 2012 02:54 PM (4u2LN)

146 The Post editorial board, which endorsed Obama in part because “the
president understands the urgency of the problems as well as anyone in
the country and is committed to solving them in a balanced way,”





Of course he understands them, he created them. In a balanced way? I won Obama. WaPo is writing comedy now?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2012 02:54 PM (1Jaio)

147
@46

I don't want to just ruin their dreams. I want them to feel real, physical pain when they even remember that they HAD dreams.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit, rooting for SMOD or the Mayans, whichever comes first at November 28, 2012 02:00 PM (4df7R)
I'd be 100% for this if it didn't hit my kids too. Otherwise, bring the pain.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 28, 2012 02:58 PM (4u2LN)

148 And since we are the last pillar of western civilization. What praytell does history say happens when we fall?


Posted by: Mike the Moose at November 28, 2012 02:49 PM (0q2P7)

Break up into Regions with their own governments. Then war between the pieces.







Posted by: DiogenesLamp at November 28, 2012 02:59 PM (bb5+k)

149 80Jake Tapper is reporting that Obama's going to ask Mitt about a wife swapPosted by: Cricket at November 28, 2012 02:11 PM (DrC22)Barry's gonna have to thrown in some cash. A lot of cash. A HELL of a lot of cash. National debt type cash.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 28, 2012 03:02 PM (4u2LN)

150
@96 The only thing Romney *could* do is allow himself to be degraded as a prop for Obama to try to pretend he is being a bipartisan leader.


Nope, he could instead send Paul Ryan. That, among other things, sticks it up Obama's ass as a matter of protocol.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 28, 2012 03:05 PM (4u2LN)

151 The thing is, this is like their tactic of calling for civility after they issued a few rounds of brutal invective.
.
They're just claiming the middle ground after they get the benefit of partisanship.
.
It's not sincere, it's a lie.
.
MFM delenda est.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 28, 2012 03:53 PM (8h1F2)

152 Obama: 'Susan Rice Is Extraordinary. Couldn't Be Prouder of the Job She's Done.'
heard it before...

Katrina/FEMA: '"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." -- George W. Bush

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 28, 2012 04:32 PM (BAnPT)






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