A Life Sentence For Kids Who Commit SpeechCrime?

After the presidential election, there were a lot of angry people on the internet, and a lot of racist tweets about the president. Some of these racist things were tweeted by kids.

Adults who express violent or racist sentiments are one thing.

But should teenagers who say stupid things on the internet be 'outed' to their schools and peers, and should their youthful history always show up on any google search of their name forever and ever?

Gawker sub-site 'Jezebel' seems to think so.

Morrissey collected the offensive tweets, along with the names of the students (the majority of whom are assumedly younger than 18 ), a gleeful accounting of the activities they’d likely list on college applications — such as their sports teams and pageants — their schools, the responses from school officials — the few who responded expressed disapproval — and the news that in most cases, the student had since deleted their Twitter account.

A deliberate effort seems to have been made to make sure this information shows up in a google search of these kids' names, for years to come.

Calling the president terrible names is a crime that should haunt people- even rash children- for the rest of their lives? Okay. You're about ten years too late, but okay, I'm game.

Did Jezebel do similar legwork to 'out' the people threatening to riot if Obama lost the election? Physical threats seem a bit more dire than name-calling, no?

How about the Bush-haters on Twitter and elsewhere? Certainly we know that many, many vicious thoughts were uttered about Dubya- including assassination fantasies. No Jezebel expose on that? Curious.

More to the point: have right-wing sites ever persecuted young kids who tweeted mean things about George Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney? No. They have not.

Not yet.

Is this really the kind of investigative journalism Jezebel wants to encourage, or become famous for? Where kids are subject to being haunted for the rest of their lives by the stupid things they did and said while in their formative years?

We need to stop pussyfooting around, and establish definitely that punishing children for ThoughtCrime is now an acceptable function of the political operatives who pretend to be journalists.

Because, we can go there. If they want to go there, we can do that too.
We are not required to behave honorably to opponents who are so bugfucking cuckoo for a politician now, that they can't hold their fire from young kids.

I hate to point this out, but: leftists have kids who misbehave and act stupidly in public, too.

This is the world you live in, kids. Everything you say in public — and even private — forums on the Internet has the potential to go more public and to become a permanent part of your Google footprint. Stupid, offhand remarks at 16 may mean you don’t get a job at 26.

Noted.

Tipster Spongeworthy:


Did those rags at Gawker really contact the schools these dumbass kids attend? They should be shunned for this—it isn’t Gawker’s job to rat these kids out. That isn’t journalism or even advocacy.

Yeah, I'm over the whole 'journalism' aspect. There is no such thing, and the sooner we embrace this new reality of ruthless Total Political War, the better.

Let's get on to the whole 'sauce for the gander' chapter of this saga, because that's where the action is now, frankly.

Thanks to Spongeworthy.

Posted by: LauraW. at 07:08 PM



Comments

1 Regarding the article posted in previous thread:

That "Butler" story is sadly indicative of what kids are being brainwashed to think in colleges now. It's all about what these lunatics call "Kyriarchy" where the straight white male is the boogieman, and everyone else must purge themselves of this evil. For example, a blak man who does not like gays needs to accept gay marriage because be not liking gays, he is perpetuating the "privilege" of straight white males.

I've been thinking about starting a blog to talk about this "kyriarchy" and am considering having it be a parody blog talking about "kyriarchy."

If any of the many sockpuppeteers are potential interested, contact me at hat@politicalhat.com

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 27, 2012 07:25 PM (sZTYJ)

2 The right needs to respond in kind.Of course,leftist comments will probably get applause rather than condemnation.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:27 PM (9XBK2)

3 I'm so depressed I can't come up with a snarky comment.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 07:27 PM (UOM48)

4 The left has no idea the backlash they are creating for themselves. When it hits they will squeel like the pigs they are.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 27, 2012 07:27 PM (uhftQ)

5 Actually that was an idea I came up for a website - Kind of like Twitchy, but for regular haters who post via real Facebook names to MSNBC. Make them famous for life.

Posted by: IBT at November 27, 2012 07:28 PM (2t6Gz)

6 Twitchy is mild version of that and it bugs the shit out of lefties.

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2012 07:28 PM (3SvjA)

7 http://tinyurl.com/crw8te3

& people wonder why CNN is 3rd Behind Fox & PMSLSD??


Jeff Zucker in advanced talks for top job at CNN

Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2012 07:29 PM (ck76k)

8 This is why I removed all political stuff from my Facebook on election night. This whole country is turning Orwellian, and I want no part of it.

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 07:29 PM (g7D8V)

9 My reply to Reliable Sources which carried the Jezebel interview Sunday.


Hey, Howie, are you going to book a guest to talk about the
despicable manic race-baiting against Romney before the election with
comments such as "Yo, if Romney wins I'm gonna take that honky out" and
other generally violent, hateful and grammatically challenged
statements?

What's that? That's not newsworthy but the Jezebel drivel is?

Coen has the unmitigated gall to appoint herself judge, jury,
executioner and parental guardian, notifying the schools of the
teenagers' whose comments she found so offensive?

They're not of legal age and yet she takes it upon herself to correct
the kids, and the schools? Does she have credentials in childhood
development, child psychology, or even in education? I didn't think so.


And somehow you think it's ok that she "snitches" on teens because
she's offended by what is still, like it or hate it, free speech?

What is she, the comment police? Wonder if she took exception with
adult comments and contacted their employers, their spouses, their
friends, their families.

What a stunningly biased, arrogant and irrelevant segment. It's one of the reasons I've stopped tuning into your show.

Posted by: wyntre at November 27, 2012 07:30 PM (MrQiL)

10 TFLDR.

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 07:32 PM (NIZHJ)

11 Now that I find out the left is planning it, I'm about one nonometer away from gettong a domain name and putting up a site with real names of lefties posting racist remarks on FB.

Posted by: IBT at November 27, 2012 07:32 PM (2t6Gz)

12 2012 is the new 1984. Wait until 2013. I won.

Posted by: Patriot Acting Barry Soetoro at November 27, 2012 07:32 PM (wIgpo)

13 Is this really the kind of investigative journalism Jezebel wants to
encourage, or become famous for? Where kids are subject to being haunted
for the rest of their lives by the stupid things they did and said
while in their formative years?



I'm pretty damn sure that's Jezebel's business model.



Posted by: alexthechick at November 27, 2012 07:32 PM (Gk3SS)

14 Seems I remember a Dem politician son slashing some tires up in Wisconsin in 2004, and some video recordings in the most recient elections that should follow some childen arround.

Posted by: Picric at November 27, 2012 07:33 PM (wK/qy)

15 The nasty shit the left says on a daily basis about conservatives is pretty damned hair-raising.

Example: Mike Malloy (and I used to know the fuckwit in ATL). He's as nasty and evil in person as you'd expect. Sadly, he's the father of a son.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 27, 2012 07:34 PM (UOM48)

16 This isn't the Gennifer Flowers thread is it?

Posted by: L, elle at November 27, 2012 07:35 PM (0PiQ4)

17 The little ones don't know the joys of anonymous sock puppeteering?

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 07:35 PM (NIZHJ)

18 It sounds so paranoid to be afraid of one's government, but it was only 71 years ago that a democrat president interred three ethnic groups "for the good of the country." At that same time, two of the most technologically advanced countries in the world, Germany and Japan, went on an orgy of genocide and destruction. It's not like it's never happened before...

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 07:35 PM (g7D8V)

19 UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 27, 2012 07:36 PM (vIRPd)

20 "More to the point: have right-wing sites ever persecuted young kids who
tweeted mean things about George Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney? No.
They have not."

Thing is, saying horrifying things about Republicans will BURNISH a college application.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 27, 2012 07:36 PM (celt+)

21 Let's get on to the whole 'sauce for the gander' chapter of this saga, because that's where the action is now, frankly.

I would caution against this line of thought. It all seems very impolite.

Posted by: John Boehner at November 27, 2012 07:36 PM (uhAkr)

22 Children can do actual violent crimes, and no one knows about them.

Posted by: Baldy at November 27, 2012 07:36 PM (opS9C)

23 The important thing to keep in mind though is that Leftists love Freedom.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 27, 2012 07:36 PM (vIRPd)

24 I need to take a break.

Later, all.


God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 27, 2012 07:37 PM (vIRPd)

25 23 The freedom to be a leftist and only a leftist.Totally free though.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:38 PM (9XBK2)

26 When can we start fighting fire with Global Thermo Nuclear War? You want to play a game?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 27, 2012 07:38 PM (X/+QT)

27 Kids saying stupid stuff independently is one thing, but choreographed political manipulation by adults is abuse, imho.

I think it a far better use of time and energy to expose those who use and manipulate school children to goose step and sing praises of Dear Leader like squadrons of creepy Obama youth.

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at November 27, 2012 07:39 PM (mXEH+)

28 22 Baldy:

Children can do actual violent crimes, and no one knows about them.
_____________________________

Yes, this. We seal the criminal records of minors so that the things that they do when they're too young to know better don't ruin their lives. There's no reason that some dumb things that a kid says should follow him around forever.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 27, 2012 07:40 PM (8AF9+)

29 Resistance is Futile. You will shamed unless and until you spout the Official Party Line in all your words, deeds and actions.

Welcome to the New World Order, kiddies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 27, 2012 07:40 PM (lOmbq)

30 2The right needs to respond in kind.


Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:27 PM (9XBK2)

No decent person on the right would orchestrate a similar public effort to ruin the life of a minor, because it's reprehensible. It's one of the reasons we're at a disadvantage in the battle for our country. There are lines we won't cross, but the other side has no boundaries.

Posted by: MoKim at November 27, 2012 07:40 PM (kprEX)

31 This thread is really an invitation to insult the SCoaMF, isn't it?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 27, 2012 07:41 PM (QupBk)

32 I have an obese lesbian trailor trash half sister (no, that's not a joke) who just gother associates in medical tech and she's looking for a job. She tearfully expressed to me her poverty and destitution, no doubt looking for a handout which would never come.

I congratulated her and went to her facebook page where I found articles and writing that would make us blush. I left her a note saying that sometimes future employees check your facebook page looking for less than stellar pictures and words. She should clean it up, this may give her an advantage over others. Her reply?

FUCK THEM IF THEY DON"T LIKE ME FOR WHO I AM.

You see boys and girls, you can't fix stupid. Stupid kids are going to write stupid things when there stupid parents give them facebook accounts with no prepping as to its dangers, present and future.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:41 PM (3Y7RV)

33 I make a point of never making any pro or con political statement at all on the www that requires my actual identity (think fb). Discussion groups that use 'handles' allow for some expression, but even that needs to be somewhat reasonable.
Plenty of adults go overboard on the web. No wonder teens are getting sucked into rash statements that they later regret.

Posted by: carolina at November 27, 2012 07:42 PM (/M0gK)

34 This leads us back to a recent strategery thread, where we talked extensively about the leftist hijack of the culture, media, and academia, and how they made insults against the right bland, no matter how vile, and insults against the left vile, no matter how bland.

We need to yank REAL FUCKING HARD at the threads hanging from this sham, because it ain't gonna unravel all by itself.

The people whose idle comments and incidental slanders we need to hang on them permanently are journalists, entertainers and academics.

The kids are pretty much just aping them anyway.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 27, 2012 07:42 PM (bxiXv)

35 This thread is really an invitation to insult the SCoaMF, isn't it?

Well, he does have man-sex on the downlow. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 27, 2012 07:42 PM (ZOf1l)

36 Anyone remember the painting of Mayor Washington (D-Chicago) that caused a scandal years go, so much that people stole the painting? It was of the mayor in women's undies.

Posted by: Baldy at November 27, 2012 07:44 PM (opS9C)

37 Posted by: carolina at November 27, 2012 07:42 PM (/M0gK)

My facebook is G rated. I give my friends one chance to post none G rated material. They are warned, then unfriended.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:44 PM (3Y7RV)

38 Every parent should tell their kids at age 5 that all of their online presence(s) will be under a fake name until they are 18. Then enforce it. Frr their own good.

In the future, we will see a lot of legal name changes in the low 20s (age) to escape an online past.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 27, 2012 07:44 PM (X/+QT)

39 30 I didn't mean in kind against kids.I meant against the leftists numerous death threats towards Romney and conservatives.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:45 PM (9XBK2)

40 Every parent should tell their kids at age 5 that all of their online presence(s) will be under a fake name until they are 18. Then enforce it. Frr their own good.


Great advice

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:45 PM (3Y7RV)

41 In the future, we will see a lot of legal name changes in the low 20s (age) to escape an online past.
Posted by: Tonic Dog


Isn't a name change a public record?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 27, 2012 07:46 PM (ON54M)

42 Google glenn beck piss obama

Result number 1.

Enjoy.

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 07:46 PM (NIZHJ)

43 The folks at Gawker Media have homes and kids. Seems like that should be made public. Photos. Addresses. Phone numbers. School locations. Car license plates.

Hours they're at home.

Existence of security systems.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 27, 2012 07:46 PM (XqWb3)

44 Because, we can go there. If they want to go there, we can do that too.

^^^ THIS - a thousand times over.

The rules are different now. There is only one rule -- there are no rules.

Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 27, 2012 07:46 PM (B7joV)

45 Fuck gawker. Seriously.

Posted by: mig0 at November 27, 2012 07:47 PM (WQ0ni)

46 36 Anyone remember the painting of Mayor Washington (D-Chicago) that caused a scandal years go, so much that people stole the painting? It was of the mayor in women's undies.

Posted by: Baldy at November 27, 2012 07:44 PM (opS9C)

I remember the painting....and the howls....didn't know it was stolen.

Posted by: BignJames at November 27, 2012 07:47 PM (HtUkt)

47
Doe this mean that no one who ever commented on AoS will be able to get a job in the future?




Sign me up for the FSA, teh chickens are coming home to roost!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 27, 2012 07:47 PM (Cnqmv)

48 Isn't a name change a public record?


Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 27, 2012 07:46 PM (ON54M)



I think it would be missed on most searches. But nothing is perfect. I still stand by my prediction.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 27, 2012 07:47 PM (X/+QT)

49 My FB and twitter info is all fake going to throwaway email addresses.

Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 27, 2012 07:48 PM (B7joV)

50 The right has responded in kind. The website will be up within a few hours
fbitches.com

Posted by: IBT at November 27, 2012 07:48 PM (2t6Gz)

51 Good news on the Senate for 2014. Dead meat Hagan of NC is running again. GOP is happy, they thought she would retire and popular cooper would run for Dems. She is very weak

Posted by: Jack J at November 27, 2012 07:48 PM (FWG5+)

52 When the enemy gives you a green light, drive FORWARD!

Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 27, 2012 07:49 PM (B7joV)

53 Isn't a name change a public record?


Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 27, 2012 07:46 PM (ON54M)


Not if it's done right!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 27, 2012 07:49 PM (Cnqmv)

54 Kids live in fear of never forgetting Google. My son went to the convention in Tampa and was interviewed several times. He won't go on CNN because he was afraid of what they might ask and it would be on Google.

Sort of sad, but he was right. When I google up his name there are a lot of pictures of him, but no stories. Interesting strategy.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 07:50 PM (wR+pz)

55 ot but funny

go ahead, marry our girlfriends......


http://bit.ly/TryEkp

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (GVxQo)

56 Why change a name when you can just steal a suitable new identity? Rampant identity theft is just one more tool to hasten the collapse.

Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (B7joV)

57 Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 07:50 PM (wR+pz)

Smart Kid.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (3Y7RV)

58 This is all hysteria. You people are just cherry-picking incidents and blowing them out of proportion.

The left is way more civil than the right in this country.

Posted by: Trig Palin at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (3SvjA)

59 The right has responded in kind. The website will be up within a few hours
fbitches.com

Posted by: IBT at November 27, 2012 07:48 PM (2t6Gz)


Bookmarked.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (sZTYJ)

60 The right wing counter site will,of course,be shut down and prosecuted by the DOJ.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:52 PM (9XBK2)

61 I say f_ck it! Put your list togther, verify it, and send it to the F_cktards at Jezzie's balls. Tell them to give their f_cking heads a shake and back the f_ck off or all's fair game.

Posted by: nobody at November 27, 2012 07:52 PM (mzeIV)

62 Hester Prynne Lives!

Bring back the Letter A!

Posted by: wyntre at November 27, 2012 07:53 PM (MrQiL)

63

so what do you peeps make of Glenn's piss Obama?

what do you think will come of it?

I see a lot of potential here to break this whole farce wide open.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2012 07:53 PM (bmw+g)

64 Remember when it was cool to fight the man, it actually wasn't that long ago.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 27, 2012 07:54 PM (NzBQO)

65 "Does this mean that no one who ever commented on AoS will be able to get a job in the future?"

Oh, I think it's going to be much worse than that...in 12-18 months we'll all besharing the same gulag.

At least thenightly 'story time' will be interesting and humorous....


Posted by: Icedog at November 27, 2012 07:55 PM (PTS+l)

66 so what do you peeps make of Glenn's piss Obama?

what do you think will come of it?

I see a lot of potential here to break this whole farce wide open.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2012 07:53 PM (bmw+g)

I have two thougts. The first is a little payback for Piss Christ. The second is Glenn needs two side kicks, one to carry each of his 100lb balls.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:55 PM (3Y7RV)

67 I just did a Google image search on my real name (which happens to be unique on all planet earth). None of the returned results were pictures of me.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 07:55 PM (B7joV)

68 Posted by: Trimegistus at November 27, 2012 07:46

The folks at Gawker Media have homes and kids. Seems like that should be
made public. Photos. Addresses. Phone numbers. School locations. Car
license plates.



Hours they're at home.



Existence of security systems

Great idea.

Posted by: wyntre at November 27, 2012 07:55 PM (MrQiL)

69 Smart Kid.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (3Y7RV)

Thanks. Just googled him up again and found out his MS Thesis is posted too. That is pretty neat. Some how there is also a picture of him on top of Mt McKinley, too. I don't know how that got there. He and his brother hiked it three years ago. Maybe the guide posted it?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 07:55 PM (wR+pz)

70 Remember when it was cool to fight the man, it actually wasn't that long ago.


Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 27, 2012 07:54 PM (NzBQO)



Actually, as I remember it, it was cool to fight the white man, and you're right it wasn't that long ago, it was more like this morning!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 27, 2012 07:56 PM (Cnqmv)

71 Oldsailors Poet - good move. That reminds me - one of my sons just started a business and realized he better go scrub all of the 'party' pictures from his fb page. Pretty soon fb is going to go the way of the dodo bird. Too much exposure of private business by too many (especially the youth)

Posted by: carolina at November 27, 2012 07:57 PM (oyZpF)

72 The left will keep pushing until there is no choice but for the right...and anyone that disagrees with them to fight back.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 27, 2012 07:57 PM (uhftQ)

73 Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 27, 2012 07:51 PM (GVxQo)


Love it!

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 07:57 PM (g7D8V)

74 I think it's quite likely Beck will be murdered at some point.I know he has bodyguards and he needs them.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:57 PM (9XBK2)

75 Actually, as I remember it, it was cool to fight the white man, and you're right it wasn't that long ago, it was more like this morning!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 27, 2012 07:56 PM (Cnqmv)

We fight all day, sucker.

Posted by: Barry's Black half at November 27, 2012 07:57 PM (wR+pz)

76 Great. Now Geithner says they will stop minting nickels and pennies in 2013. What more surprise do the bastards have for us?

Posted by: Baldy at November 27, 2012 07:58 PM (opS9C)

77 This is why I hate sports now, every time I Google my name my college athletic stuff comes up, meets, games, even pics it's kind of scary, but I don't have any social media sites so that's kind of a relief.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (NzBQO)

78 I may wake up dead someday but I have no qualms about speaking my mind in public and I really don't care if someone knows who I am. The handle here is just to be funny.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (zpqa2)

79 Why are they investigating kids tweets? Why aren't these investigative journalists doing anything worthwhile? Here is an idea, Benghazi and Fast & Furious!

O/T- I read that Bob Dole is in the hospital. Harry Reid said "he's not there for a checkup, he's infirm". I say Harry is infirm.

I started a FB page three years ago and never went back to it. I read in the WSJ and in The Transom a few months ago that both campaigns were going to look at people's FB pages and if they voted etc or were inclined to say home or support the opposition, or were undecided. The campaigns were going to arrange to have an old acquaintance give the person a call and try to get them to vote for their candidate. I'm not sure if they did that but I'm warning everyone in case you post political stuff to your FB page.

Posted by: CarolT at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (z4WKX)

80 I repeat. Media figures, entertainers, reporters, editors, so-called journalists, academics, teachers and administrators.

Apart from death threats, I wouldn't waste my time with low-hanging fruit (just now), and those I'd just make a public list and report.

If we keep pitting privates against each other while our officers are being shot, we'll lose. You can go after the troops if your position is secure and their officers are demoralized, *we're* not the ones in that position now. We can't waste resources like that.

Go after the puppeteer, not the muppet.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (bxiXv)

81 74 I think it's quite likely Beck will be murdered at some point.I know he has bodyguards and he needs them.
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 07:57 PM (9XBK2)

You know, sometimes when I listen to him, which isn't real often, I get the feeling he thinks that too.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (3Y7RV)

82 Didn't Gawker argue that pedophilia wasn't all that bad?

Posted by: Walkers! at November 27, 2012 08:01 PM (TYO2p)

83 Go after the puppeteer, not the muppet

That man is scary. Hold me, Snuffy.

Posted by: Big Bird at November 27, 2012 08:02 PM (3SvjA)

84 Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (zpqa2)

You're a great American!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2012 08:02 PM (GsoHv)

85 Pretty soon fb is going to go the way of the dodo bird. Too much
exposure of private business by too many (especially the youth)


Other than the high profile cases that make Drudge, there must have been dozens/hundreds of other people who got fired because of indiscreet FB postings.

At some point, some of them are going to sue FB using the theory that FB encouraged this sort of behavior and does nothing to prevent it...a sort of 3rd party entrapment argument. Its bullshit, but its going to happen, and FB will lose in court because the jury will see their big pockets and sympathize with the dolts who want to GET PAID for being imbeciles.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:02 PM (B7joV)

86 >>>The left is way more civil than the right in this country.

My favorite part of having nothing political left to lose is being able to respond in kind to the left, unabashed, unrestrained. I mean....why not?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 27, 2012 08:04 PM (uegjV)

87
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 07:59 PM (3Y7RV)


It is simply amazing that statements like this can be made in the US of A and have enough of that nagging little grain of possibility that you don't automatically say there goes another tin-foil hat type!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 27, 2012 08:04 PM (Cnqmv)

88 FB will lose in court because the jury will see their big pockets and sympathize with the dolts who want to GET PAID for being imbeciles.

I bet you a cup of coffee you are wrong.

Posted by: Stella Liebeck at November 27, 2012 08:05 PM (3SvjA)

89 Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:02 PM (B7joV)

I agree that some dolt will sue, but I disagree on the outcome. There is plenty of case law defending exactly what FB does. My guess is that it won't see a jury.

Of course I despise FB and hope that it implodes on its own (lack of) merits.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 27, 2012 08:06 PM (GsoHv)

90 I used to work for a company when I was right out of college that made up fake facebook accounts of mostly hot women and then friended all the employees or possible employees, just to try to see what was going on. I know for a fact that they have done this at some private colleges. Pepperdine university suspended a few kids who where drinking on campus and posted photos up on facebook.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 27, 2012 08:06 PM (NzBQO)

91 I started a FB page three years ago and never went back to it.

I look at mine [Elron Aven] about once every four months. Its completely different every time with all the auto-posted shit sites toss up there. I don't think anyone ever looks at it, its just a convenient commenting login ID at some sites.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:06 PM (B7joV)

92 Now Geithner says they will stop minting nickels and pennies in 2013. What more surprise do the bastards have for us?


Posted by: Baldy at November 27, 2012 07:58 PM (opS9C)

Supposedly, the nickel is already worth more than 5 cents for its metal content. People joke about SILVER DIMES!!!111!!, but some preppers have also been hoarding nickels for years...

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 08:07 PM (g7D8V)

93 Lets kill them with anal contusions (obviously sarc)

Posted by: Alex of the special victims unit at November 27, 2012 08:07 PM (aPAIU)

94 Well with all these investigations at least discovered that Harry Reid is a pederast.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:08 PM (wR+pz)

95 They can get a job with my company. It's pretty cool too.

Of course, by the end of this year, I will have moved it all over to be offshore, cash-based and black market.

You know, to avoid the ObamaCare problem.

And the taxes. My God, that taxes!

But still, if you like a life of adventure and making more scratch than you know what to do with, AND you have a documented history of giving Obama the proverbial finger since age 16 (!), then I'd be glad to consider your application. Absolutely.

Posted by: Phinn at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (oFH2D)

96 I look at mine [Elron Aven] about once every four months. Its completely
different every time with all the auto-posted shit sites toss up there.



Please accept my friend request, or I'll kill myself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (QKKT0)

97

I've always liked the crybaby, but over the last six months Ive come to truly respect Glenn Beck.

I don't say shit like that about just anybody.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (bmw+g)

98 93
Lets kill them with anal contusions (obviously sarc)


Oh, that sounds like fun!

Posted by: Barney at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (wR+pz)

99 There is plenty of case law defending exactly what FB does.

This "law" you speak of. What a quaint anachronistic notion to maintain in this post-legal era.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (B7joV)

100 The shaming of those who dare to criticize our beloved President, Barack Obama, who I support completely, is itself completely justified. Their racism and right-wing hate must be revealed to the world. Anonymity is merely a shield for evil. If you don't want people to know who you are, do not do anything wrong.

All of you should be exposed for who you are.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (+PoXK)

101 I am hoarding nickels. Junk silver dimes are too expensive.

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (NIZHJ)

102 OT Meanwhile,in Germany they have bestiality zoo's.But there is no slippery slope right?

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (9XBK2)

103 what better way to teach these kids that they should really be ratting out their parents and other adults who think and live wrong? Gotta have something painful to motivate them into becoming good little Young Planeteers and Obama Youth. And if they don't knuckle under, well, they're f*cked, and useful as an example!

Posted by: barbarausa at November 27, 2012 08:10 PM (WWeoI)

104 Please accept my friend request, or I'll kill myself.

Chill dude. I'll email you some iXanax.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:11 PM (B7joV)

105 some preppers have also been hoarding nickels for years...

Really? I have some nickels I want to give away. Figured the pneumismatic value was low, but they might round out someone's collection.

Posted by: fluffy at November 27, 2012 08:11 PM (3SvjA)

106 You know FB will not log off unless you log it off, right?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:12 PM (wR+pz)

107 There is no such thing, and the sooner we embrace this new reality of ruthless Total Political War, the better.

Welcome to Chicago, and the politicization of everything, coming soon to a government office near you.

Posted by: Katja at November 27, 2012 08:12 PM (/kGtp)

108 102 OT Meanwhile,in Germany they have bestiality zoo's.But there is no slippery slope right?
Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 08:09 PM (9XBK2)

That's would explain why the Muzzies riot less in Germany than France. The Germans give them something to do.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 08:12 PM (3Y7RV)

109 Also lets put semen, fecal matter, and vaginal fluid in there ears

Posted by: Alex of the special victims unit at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (aPAIU)

110 I walked away from Facebook a few years ago. I never actually used my real name anyway.

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (NIZHJ)

111 Fluffy, put 'em on Craigslist at a bit of a profit, and you'll have no trouble getting rid of them.

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (g7D8V)

112 Death to the Bohemians

Posted by: Alex of the special victims unit at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (aPAIU)

113 When IGoogle my real name I am reminded of my long and shameful porn starcareer. I check it several times a day just to remind myself ofthe indignity...

Posted by: Icedog at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (PTS+l)

114 That's would explain why the Muzzies riot less in Germany than France. The Germans give them something to do.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 27, 2012 08:12 PM (3Y7RV)

My goats not happy, but I am.

Posted by: Mohamed the goat fucker at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (wR+pz)

115 You're "over the whole journalism aspect" of…JEZEBEL?

An auxiliary opinion site to a celebrity-worship outfit?

LauraW, you must be the only person in the world who took Jezebel seriously enough to call it "journalism".

Posted by: Jimi Ray iPhone at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (8HUAP)

116 Nickles are sturdy and rust free. Drill a 1/4" hole through them and you've got a very high quality washer you'd pay a lot more than $.05 for.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:14 PM (B7joV)

117 Burger King used to have a Facebook app that let you earn a free hamburger for each 10 people you de-friended. The catch was than the former friend received a message telling them they had been de-friended for a free burger.

That was cool.

http://tinyurl.com/7gxbeo

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 27, 2012 08:14 PM (QKKT0)

118 As Tracie Egan Morrissey at jezelbel is behind this , it will be interesting to see how the outed retaliate against her.

Posted by: liontooth at November 27, 2012 08:16 PM (xk0Xg)

119 It's political terrorism. And I mean the term literally.

We go after the "soldiers", not civilians.

We don't go after some dumbass kids who call Obama Jesus, we only pay attention when it's a multimillionaire dumbass like Jamie Foxx.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 27, 2012 08:16 PM (iIoxT)

120 The Harold Washington painting was taken down by some black Aldermen, and the University that hung it said it would be irresponsible to put it back up--kind of like yelling fire in a crowded theater.

Double standards are a beautiful thing.

Burn it down.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at November 27, 2012 08:17 PM (h5CN9)

121 I have to admit, I do have some silver dimes. I also have some nickels. I don't expect either of them to allow me to run Bartertown after the apocalypse, I just like the idea of being a little diversified.

Of course, when I win the Powerball tomorrow, I'll be able to buy my own land and live my way. Secession won't work for states, but individuals can in some cases live in such a way the government is but a minor nuisance in their lives (I hope).

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 08:17 PM (g7D8V)

122 I think that $0.37 exchange rate for a FB "friend" Burger King established is optimistic by about $0.37.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:18 PM (B7joV)

123 We go after the "soldiers", not civilians.

Yea we do. Part of winning WWII was breaking the will of civilian populations. It works. You just got to hurt enough of them.

I'm in the mood to inflict pain...a lot of pain.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:21 PM (B7joV)

124 110
I walked away from Facebook a few years ago. I never actually used my real name anyway.


Posted by: Butters
______
Yes, i never use my real name on any social media. Yet somehow people still find me! The bastards. (wife says, if you don't want any friends why are you using Facebook?) To stay in touch with my relatives is my answer.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 27, 2012 08:22 PM (PALjS)

125 "We don't go after some dumbass kids who call Obama Jesus, we only pay attention when it's a multimillionaire dumbass like Jamie Foxx"

Or, ya know, some chubby nobody chick who happened to mock the wrong "silence, please" sign.

Cuz, ya know, soldier. Mayjah playa. /rolleyes

Whine about it all you want, cuz it really is hateful and nasty to demand serious consequences from a minor, harmless bout of Human Idiocy…but don't pretend like you don't howl for the blood of those who deny YOUR gods, too.

Posted by: Jimi Ray iPhone at November 27, 2012 08:23 PM (8HUAP)

126 I suspect some poor, tormented pubescent dweebs are monitoring Twitter right now. Dreaming of cold, sweet revenge.

Or at least that's what this former tormented pubescent dweeb would be doing. I've still got some demons, what can I say.

Posted by: CozMark at November 27, 2012 08:23 PM (BjOkm)

127 Lotteries are just another big government tax.Voluntary at least.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 08:23 PM (9XBK2)

128 I've never had a Facebook account. Main reason is that for many years the only computer I had was at work. Now that I have a personal computer all the privacy issues scare me. Am I curious about who I could reconnect with? Sure. Would I know more about what my siblings are up to? Sure. But if I've made it this far I might as well keep my no-Facebook streak going.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 08:23 PM (Eww/X)

129 Go after the puppeteer, not the muppet

Elmo like!!!

+1000

Posted by: Elmo at November 27, 2012 08:24 PM (JnmYX)

130 O/T

The burning question this afternoon, where the neeked cooters shaved or not? What was painted on their bodies?

Here are the answers, NSFW. Mostly because floppy tits are ugly.


http://tinyurl.com/c7u8hjx

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:25 PM (wR+pz)

131 Soon.

Posted by: some poor, tormented pubescent dweeb at November 27, 2012 08:26 PM (QupBk)

132 113
When IGoogle my real name I am reminded of my long and shameful porn
starcareer. I check it several times a day just to remind myself ofthe
indignity...

Posted by: Icedog at November 27, 2012 08:13 PM (PTS+l)

You know what we say here at AoSHQ, pictures or it didn't happen.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:27 PM (wR+pz)

133 Call me when you're ready for violence. Not a second before.

Posted by: Trump at November 27, 2012 08:27 PM (F8Lnm)

134 Four of the nekkids were dudes.

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 08:27 PM (NIZHJ)

135 134. Soon i shall sodomize your ass so hard lint will come out of your mouth

Posted by: Elmo of your closet at November 27, 2012 08:27 PM (aPAIU)

136 I actually don't know how to feel about that bitch getting fired for giving the finger to the Tomb of the Unknown. Part of me thinks even slovenly dirtbags have a right to free speech. Part of me thinks that the Constitution is not a suicide pact, and that there should be consequences for expressing your hatred of people who gave their last full measure in defense of your rights and don't even have the small luxury of a headstone with their own name on it.

Arlington should have pressed charges against her based on the objective evidence of her behavior. Since she was proud enough to post her filthy action on Facebook for everyone to see, it's up to her friends to see whether they think such behavior is cute or funny.

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 08:28 PM (g7D8V)

137 Here are the answers, NSFW. Mostly because floppy tits are ugly.

/heads over to the twitter attention whore page to cleanse brain

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 08:28 PM (34YTQ)

138 137
134. Soon i shall sodomize your ass so hard lint will come out of your mouth


Just like Barney! I can take, come on over.

Posted by: Mrs Barney at November 27, 2012 08:29 PM (wR+pz)

139 138 She was free to do it and her employer was free to fire her for it.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 08:29 PM (9XBK2)

140 The creepy red tide story in the sidebar led me to this harrowing story about the Mexican mayor who, at long last, gave her life to the drug lords.

Where the hell do people like her find the courage to do what they do?

http://bit.ly/TqxnJp

I remember reading about her years ago and can't believe the fight she had in her.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 08:29 PM (piMMO)

141 118
As Tracie Egan Morrissey at jezelbel is behind this , it will be interesting to see how the outed retaliate against her.

Posted by: liontooth at November 27, 2012 08:16 PM
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Tracie Egan Morrissey's career now needs to end. This is an evil tactic typical of totalitarian regimes, although not against the letter of the law, despicable.

People need to boycott or generally bring this person's career to an end.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 27, 2012 08:29 PM (PALjS)

142 136 Four of the nekkids were dudes.

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 08:27 PM (NIZHJ)



The staff assistant(s) in Boehner's front office need raises, stat, for putting up with that crap.

BTW, if anyone's wondering how the protestors were able to get into his office, it was his personal office in the Longworth House Office Building, and anyone can enter the House and Senate office buildings (where all congressmen and senators have offices) as long as they make it through the metal detector. It's the Office of the Speaker in the Capitol that's harder to reach.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 08:30 PM (Eww/X)

143 This is why I removed all political stuff from my Facebook on election night. This whole country is turning Orwellian, and I want no part of it.
Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 07:29 PM (g7D8V)_ ____ ____ _____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____ __With apologies to Hunter Thompson, here's my take on facebook:Facebook is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps and thieves run free, and good men die like dogs.There's also a negative side.

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 27, 2012 08:30 PM (1Y+hH)

144 Elmo like!!!

Get ready for my fist, you red, fuzzy little bitch!

Posted by: Kevin Clash, angry clown at November 27, 2012 08:31 PM (3SvjA)

145 Or, ya know, some chubby nobody chick who happened to mock the wrong "silence, please" sign.

Cuz, ya know, soldier. Mayjah playa. /rolleyes

Whine about it all you want, cuz it really is hateful and nasty to demand serious consequences from a minor, =========

The chubby nobody was 30 years old.

Posted by: liontooth at November 27, 2012 08:31 PM (xk0Xg)

146 138 I actually don't know how to feel about that bitch getting fired for giving the finger to the Tomb of the Unknown.



IIRC, the employer was paying for the trip.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 08:32 PM (Eww/X)

147 Tracie Egan Morrissey at jezelbel ????


Who is this person and wtf is Jezelbel. I know it's a blog.


What is it's/her claim to fame?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:33 PM (wR+pz)

148 I love Beck's work of Art! I never liked his television show but his radio show is hysterically funny! Thanks to letting us know to look for it.

Posted by: CarolT at November 27, 2012 08:33 PM (z4WKX)

149
You folks have played 'sauce for the gander' for awhile, now.
iow, you're reacting to their moves, instead of acting on your own initiative.
Losing the initiative in a fight is when you're dancing to the other guy's tune. They push your buttons and you yell. They manipulate the strings ...and... you're a puppet in someone else's play.
You currently have no strategy (because you really don't have a coherent political philosophy) ...and on top of all that, you have damn little understanding of tactics...except to dance to their tune. 'They act, you react' is a losing proposition, especiallyin the long term (strategy).

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 27, 2012 08:34 PM (WwR1j)

150 Morrissey sucks by himself, but the Smiths were cool.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 27, 2012 08:34 PM (9ghZ6)

151 The Grinch who Stole Christmas was Just on !! Officially in the Christmas Spirit!!!

DAMN I LOVE THAT CARTOON !!!

Posted by: Evilpens at November 27, 2012 08:34 PM (ck76k)

152 138

You're all mixed up here. The Constitution has nothing to do with her being fired, and everything to do with the idea of her being prosecuted. Yet you seem uneasy with the former, and considering advocating the latter.

The law can't reasonably touch her. But her employer could and did, and I think that's something to celebrate. She earned it.

Besides, I'm sick of people imagining that the obvious meaning of their actions doesn't apply because they say so. This woman says that her actions represent no disrespect to the honored dead. Some guy who painted a picture of Obama as a crucified figure says he wasn't making any analogy between Obama and Jesus. Do they imagine that everyone has lost 80 IQ points somehow? I know, I know, the last election...

Posted by: Splunge at November 27, 2012 08:36 PM (2IW5Q)

153 IIRC, the employer was paying for the trip.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 08:32 PM (Eww/X)

I haven't been watching the news. If that's true, then they were well within their rights to fire her.

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 08:36 PM (g7D8V)

154 philosophy) ...and on top of all that, you have damn little understanding of tactics...except to dance to their tune. 'They act, you react' is a losing proposition, especiallyin the long term (strategy).Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 27, 2012 08:34 PM (WwR1j)Since you are happy about this, perhaps you should just keep quiet and let it proceed.

Posted by: Meremortal, run...it's burning! at November 27, 2012 08:36 PM (1Y+hH)

155 I haven't been watching the news. If that's true, then they were well within their rights to fire her.


****

She was escorting their "challenged" clients on a field trip.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 27, 2012 08:37 PM (piMMO)

156 @155

It was true she was on a company trip.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:38 PM (wR+pz)

157 So are we goin to do this?

Posted by: Truman North at November 27, 2012 08:38 PM (0GVbf)

158 Lets attack there kids, and there families, ridicule upon ridicule with a little murder and armed robbery here and there.

They already commit murders and suicides over FB drivel. No need to do that for them.

If Obama's younger years were as well documented as goes on today, he'd not be president now. He'd have a hard time getting a Walmart greeter job because he couldn't pass the drug test.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:38 PM (B7joV)

159 As someone with a developmentally disabled brother, I wouldn't want a woman as eaten up with hatred as this woman anywhere near him. How much hatred do you have to have coursing through your veins in order to give the finger to the Tomb of the Unknowns?

Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 08:39 PM (g7D8V)

160 their kids, their families

Posted by: Butters at November 27, 2012 08:39 PM (NIZHJ)

161 The only ones (or one) talking about violence here is a moby.

Posted by: steevy at November 27, 2012 08:40 PM (9XBK2)

162 If I was a parent of one of the underage kids who were publicly outed by that rag I would sue the cr@p out of them.

I believe what Jezebel did is a crime.

Posted by: wyntre at November 27, 2012 08:40 PM (MrQiL)

163 I have a lot of difficulty Googling myself

Posted by: John Smith at November 27, 2012 08:40 PM (Dll6b)

164
Like the douche yesterday who got into an argument with a 16 year old. There's no need to debate these assholes we just do what they do, skip the debate and head straight to targeting their defense.

Don't start debating their impartiality, state that even pretending to be impartial is absurd. Then they look absurd when they start defending themselves.
Start mocking them for being lap dogs for the last 4 years and the next.
Mock them for having to put their professional ethics on hold in the name of covering for their lord and saviour. Point out to them that they have a constant diet of shit sandwiches because Obama is the turd they have to go out and polish day in and day out.

These are the types of memes that need to be echoed everywhere, especially outside of the right wing haunts. Don't debate whether X is true, comment like it is an established fact and their defence of such a fact is both ridiculous and desperate. The right never lowers itself to such tactics, but it works.

The left has done this for years, global warming, alleged left wing academia intellectual superiority, the right wing wants to throw grandma and poor people on the street.

We saw it only the other day on how the right was racist for criticizing Rice. It wasn't a discussion on whether the criticism was justified we leapt over that straight to putting conservatives on the defense by saying it was outright racism.

The right are too interested in actually, you know, thinking about things and not appearing too headstrong in our convictions. The left loves to jump in with both feet and whip itself into a feeding frenzy of hateful convictions no matter how ridiculous. Just look at the opposition to Bush and the crazy it brought out there.

These are the moments of opportunity wasted by the right. There is hay to be made from this, how the liberals are creating this hostile totalitarian environment, acting against free speech, make them fear for their comments on social media. Make use of their contrarian nature. They can longer fight against the man when they are the man.


Posted by: Ring at November 27, 2012 08:41 PM (iWnmm)

165 165
I have a lot of difficulty Googling myself


Tell me about it.

Posted by: Mohammed at November 27, 2012 08:41 PM (2IW5Q)

166 Some of these remarks may torpedo some job opportunities for these kids in later life. Now, if they'd admitted cocaine use, they'd be qualified to be president.

Posted by: Love Brunettes at November 27, 2012 08:42 PM (A8lyI)

167 friend me on Facebook !!!!!!!!!


don't hate me because of my half-brother

Posted by: Alois Hitler at November 27, 2012 08:42 PM (Dll6b)

168 159
So are we goin to do this?


Only if you are from the South.


http://tinyurl.com/d9cg7pb

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:43 PM (wR+pz)

169 With apologies to Hunter Thompson, here's my take on facebook:Facebook
is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where pimps
and thieves run free, and good men die like dogs.There's also a negative
side.


FB is just another weapon in the arsenal. Its shameful to go down without having expended all available weapons.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:43 PM (B7joV)

170 167. You got nothing on me

Posted by: Lee at November 27, 2012 08:44 PM (aPAIU)

171 They act, you react' is a losing proposition, especiallyin the long term (strategy).

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 27, 2012 08:34 PM

That...and we don't have 3 major networks, CNN and MSNBC manipulating and defaming our opposition. Or praising our candidates every move. If they do an about face, and told the truth, or at least observed the news objectively instead of practicing yellow journalism, then we'd most likely when >>50% of elections nationwide including blue states. All your blue states would start bleeding red....where would you be then? Move to Cuba, or North Korea where socialism is already fully incorporated? Or would you move to the more moderate socialism of Spain or Greece?
____I heard Bill Clinton gave his BoneSteel to your wife last night....interesting development....it was reported on Foxnews.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 27, 2012 08:44 PM (PALjS)

172 Tell me about it.

We should all get together over a cold beer sometime.

Posted by: John Doe at November 27, 2012 08:44 PM (lOmbq)

173 You currently have no strategy (because you really don't have a coherent political philosophy) ...and on top of all that, you have damn little understanding of tactics...except to dance to their tune.
=====================

Who needs tactics when the economy is starting to implode and we will be going into a severe recession / depression? By 2016, Obama will be as popular as Hoover was in 1933.

Posted by: liontooth at November 27, 2012 08:46 PM (xk0Xg)

174 174
We should all get together over a cold beer sometime.


Infidel! I keel you! I keel you so bad!

Posted by: Mohammed at November 27, 2012 08:46 PM (2IW5Q)

175 Well I don't have that problem or maybe I do. Last name is very unique and easy to follow, so everything I do shows up on google.



The large democrat I took this morning showed up by noon with a picture of it curled up in the bowl.

Who sent that in?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 27, 2012 08:48 PM (wR+pz)

176 "This whole country is turning Orwellian, and I want no part of it.


Posted by: Palandine at November 27, 2012 07:29 PM (g7D8V)"This.

Posted by: tsj017 at November 27, 2012 08:49 PM (vOH26)

177 I do enjoy Warren's consistently-hackneyed "50,000 ft view".

More empty analogies, doofus!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 08:49 PM (34YTQ)

178 There is hay to be made from this, how the liberals are creating this
hostile totalitarian environment, acting against free speech, make them
fear for their comments on social media. Make use of their contrarian
nature. They can longer fight against the man when they are the man.


Maintaining morality against an immoral enemy is suicidal.

I know, all the arguments about "becoming them, blah, blah.." -- THEY ALL BULLSHIT. This is a gutter fight. straight razors, busted bottles, rusty pipes.

The difference, which is why we don't "become them" by acting like them is that we can turn it off when the battle is over. They can't. It is who they are. It is how they operate. Every time. All the time. 7x24x365.

That difference matters.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 27, 2012 08:51 PM (B7joV)

179 Should we shift paradigms, Warren?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 08:51 PM (34YTQ)

180 Here we are with double standards being a beautiful thing: defend the right to idiocy of the stupid 18-yo kids who called the prez "n*gger", but call for criminal prosecution of some similarly stupid fat chick who was mocking the content of a sign that just happened to be at Arlington?

It's one thing for her -- and the kids -- to lose social face for such shameless, wilful immaturities. It's another altogether for Jezebel or the entire conservative blogosphere to coordinate large-scale, bloodthirsty campaigns gleefully demanding life-impacting consequences for such moronic -- and utterly harmless! -- act.

Posted by: Jimi Ray iPhone at November 27, 2012 08:52 PM (8HUAP)

181 We should probably synergize our deliverables.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 08:53 PM (34YTQ)

182 A big flaw is we don't streamline best practices.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 08:55 PM (34YTQ)

183
Here we are with double standards being a beautiful thing: defend the right to idiocy of the stupid 18-yo kids who called the prez "n*gger", but call for criminal prosecution of some similarly stupid fat chick who was mocking the content of a sign that just happened to be at Arlington?

It's one thing for her -- and the kids -- to lose social face for such shameless, wilful immaturities. It's another altogether for Jezebel or the entire conservative blogosphere to coordinate large-scale, bloodthirsty campaigns gleefully demanding life-impacting consequences for such moronic -- and utterly harmless! -- act.
_____________________________________

Bullshit. There is a difference between stupid or even racist speech and destroying the solemnity of the resting place of many who have given the ultimate sacrifice to a grateful nation.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 27, 2012 08:55 PM (Nfpnr)

184 Bullshit. There is a difference between stupid or even racist speech and destroying the solemnity of the resting place of many who have given the ultimate sacrifice to a grateful nation.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 27, 2012 08:55 PM (Nfpnr)



Furthermore, she embarrassed her employer. Her employer was paying for the trip because she was working.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at November 27, 2012 08:56 PM (Eww/X)

185 Whine about it all you want, cuz it really is
hateful and nasty to demand serious consequences from a minor, harmless
bout of Human Idiocy…but don't pretend like you don't howl for the blood
of those who deny YOUR gods, too.

Posted by: Jimi Ray iPhone at November 27, 2012 08:23 PM (8HUAP)


The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier is not anyone's god.

It is a tomb to honor those who have been shot, stabbed, blown up, mutilated, disparaged, and by half the populace, forgotten, so that we might live free and happy.

The woman you referenced, whose name I have forgotten, deserves nothing but scorn for mocking those who fought and died, and probably wished they were at home, rather than bleeding out in a foreign land. A teenager slandering the President is not at all in the same category.

For starters, the President hasn't suffered for anyone. For another thing, he's a damn politician. That means that he lies, cheats, and extorts his way through life. It is the same with all politicians.

Denigrating a career politician is not at all equal to denigrating a young man who died, forgotten and alone, on a battlefield in the name of the people of the United States, or for that matter, an unknown tens of thousands of young men, not simply one.


So to you, sir/madam, in reply to your unbelievably loose morals, third-rate debate technique, and unsound reasoning, I have nothing but a colossal go straight to hell.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 27, 2012 08:57 PM (9oGUt)

186 . It's another altogether for Jezebel or the entire conservative blogosphere to coordinate large-scale, bloodthirsty campaigns gleefully demanding life-impacting consequences for such moronic -- and utterly harmless! -- act.
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It wasn't harmless to the company that paid for the adult.

Posted by: liontooth at November 27, 2012 08:57 PM (xk0Xg)

187 but call for criminal prosecution of some similarly stupid fat chick who
was mocking the content of a sign that just happened to be at
Arlington?
Posted by: Jimi Ray iPhone at November 27, 2012 08:52 PM
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Jimi
I agree, the dumb chick that insulted all service men that ever served or died to defend the nation has a right to free speech and I never called for her prosection. I lurk quite a bit here and have not seen posts calling for that...perhaps I just scrolled to quickly on those threads.

But what I do believe in, is the right of her employer to fire her over such an act, in particular because she did it during a company outing.

I agree, what the kids have done is despicable as well....but ruining their lives for it? Is that called for? I'm not sure, making them understand what they did is wrong? Yes. I would have just outed them without revealing their names and caused the opposition party the embarassment it deserved for such an action....but they are going overboard ruining kids lives. over age 18, i guess their fair game for being outed and losing their jobs...if they have one in this economy.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 27, 2012 08:58 PM (PALjS)

188 It's obviously time to drill down in order develop some innovative benchmarks.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 09:02 PM (34YTQ)

189 Keep in mind that "Sauce of the Gander" is considered a Friday night cocktail for most of the Jezebel staff.

Posted by: Wooga at November 27, 2012 09:05 PM (/6AiP)

190 Jezebel should be doing this in a German accent, like the good little Gestapo agents they are.

Posted by: LGoPs at November 27, 2012 09:15 PM (BJVEF)

191
The Left is becoming more and more comfortable with the idea of "destroying" anyone who ventures into un-Left speech or thought. I can't imagine what could restrain them from anything short of judicial murder, and even that's just a question of degree and "special corps" who'd handleit. Paint them a world where the entire family of a 16-year old kid has its house and possessions seized, the parents are barred from working, and they're left to squat under a tin lean-to in a shantytown of similar rejects. Would it make them recoil in horror? Would they exclaim "I don't want to live in a world like that!" You know it wouldn't. They'd be HAPPY. Happy to think that their enemies have been crushed and may even die of starvation - good riddance, and smoother, neater world for them.

Well, they worried themselves sick that every bullet fired by an American soldier would raise up a hostile jihadi, looking for vengeance. Every injustice like this will end up raising a soldier for a fascist backlash which will repay them in kind.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 27, 2012 09:32 PM (FkH4y)

192 These Gawker sites trade on "doxing" people. The did so with that wierdo from Reddit and others.

Posted by: LiquidFlorian at November 27, 2012 09:32 PM (vIwOH)

193 Posted by: Waterhouse at November 27, 2012 09:02 PM (34YTQ)

I'm guessing you've been forced to attend quite a few corporate seminars. Do your co-workers play "buzzword bingo"?

Posted by: Polliwogette, disappointed hobbit at November 27, 2012 09:40 PM (NYki8)

194 Using dead thread to reset nic

Posted by: Polliwogette, still a Hobbit at November 27, 2012 09:54 PM (NYki8)

195 And then Warren stops by with this:
"You folks have played 'sauce for the gander' for awhile, now.
iow, you're reacting to their moves, instead of acting on your own initiative.
Losing
the initiative in a fight is when you're dancing to the other guy's
tune. They push your buttons and you yell. They manipulate the strings
...and... you're a puppet in someone else's play.
You currently have
no strategy (because you really don't have a coherent political
philosophy) ...and on top of all that, you have damn little
understanding of tactics...except to dance to their tune. 'They act, you
react' is a losing proposition, especiallyin the long term (strategy).

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 27, 2012 08:34 PM (WwR1j)
"Why is it always "You folks", and not "we", Warren.
If you are NOT one of us, Why The Fuck Are You Here? And yet, You are always here...

Posted by: ChrisP at November 27, 2012 10:06 PM (G+4K3)

196
I think the left should be hounded to the gatesof Hell for every feebish comment they've made. If they want to play with fire lets pour some gas on them, they lit the match.
15The nasty shit the left says on a daily basis about conservatives is pretty damned hair-raising.

Example: Mike Malloy (and I used to know the fuckwit in ATL). He's as nasty and evil in person as you'd expect. Sadly, he's the father of a son.
Posted by: Jane D'ohThat's funny, I knew Malloy back in the early to mid 90's when he had the evening show. Even went to one of the big get togethers and got signed pictures of all the on air personalities, including Munson'sthat I treasure even as a Gator fan.It is true thatMalloy hasturned into a Jade Gold of the radio, dispicable miserable shell of a former human.

Posted by: Gmac at November 27, 2012 10:06 PM (IanLz)

197 Damn formatting is still fuxored.

Posted by: Gmac at November 27, 2012 10:07 PM (IanLz)

198 Gmac,
Pixy is why we can't have nice things, like formatting...

Posted by: ChrisP at November 27, 2012 10:08 PM (G+4K3)

199 Once a few suicides notes mention this outing stuff it will go slow down. Damage done, had their fun. They will probably move on to extortion of their enemies.

Posted by: Snake Oil Baron at November 27, 2012 10:29 PM (RKeHi)

200 "I agree, the dumb chick that insulted all service men that ever served or died to defend the nation has a right to free speech and I never called for her prosection. I lurk quite a bit here and have not seen posts calling for that...perhaps I just scrolled to quickly on those threads."

lol, well it was in this very thread! xP

viz: "Arlington should have pressed charges against her based on the objective evidence of her behavior"

i didn't see it earlier, either, but i was just referencing it because it was here today.

"I agree, what the kids have done is despicable as well....but ruining their lives for it? Is that called for?"

i completely agree with you. i think it's foolish and entirely over-reactive.

however, just as it was within the rights of the fat chick's employer to fire her for her despicable act, so is it within the rights of the universities to fail to admit these kids for their early-adulthood semi-public racism.

i'm not condemning the employer; i'd not condemn the university for failing to admit. my condemnation is at these campaigns to precipitate the punishment, which i believe is certainly in both cases an undeserved overreaction for a sudden onset of Acute Human Idiocy, that disease to which we are all occasionally subject.

i think jezebel's gleeful self-satisfaction at helping destroy these children's lives by google-bombing their youthful foolishness to posterity is far worse than anything those kids did...but i also think that the conservative blogosphere's unified campaign to publicise the fat chick's indiscretion is a similarly horrifying example of mankind's propensity to visit extreme punishments on its own for harmless, if distastefully objectionable, gaucherie.

after all, while it was certainly within the company's right to fire her for making it look so bad with scandalous behaviour committed in the course of a company trip, does anyone truly think that the company would ever have fired her if the photograph hadn't been cribbed from her facebook and posted all over drudge, hotair, and redstate? o.O

that's my problem with the response: that people were so happy to see her life -- and the life of the girl who took the photo! -- rather well ruined for a stupid act that was only incidentally related to arlington (there is no doubt in my mind that she's just an oblivious fat chick mocking a sign demanding respect, rather than some subversive element specifically mocking the sanctity of God's Own Cemetery).

why do we want to punish people so hard for such nonsense? i believe each and every one of us has done far worse than calling the president a "n*gger" or mocking a sign at arlington; most of us are discreet enough to not commit our indiscretions to digital posterity, but it's still inconceivable to me that so many people be out for so much blood over such harmless stupidity. :/

Posted by: jimi ray at November 27, 2012 10:30 PM (79EF9)

201 jimi ray,
clue Free, and loving it...

Posted by: ChrisP at November 27, 2012 10:55 PM (G+4K3)

202 Face it, no conservative site - AoSHQ included - will ever, ever, ever take the time or effort to "out" leftist kids or other civilians guilty of hate speech toward conservatives. Ever. And Ace actually has a big enough soapbox to make a difference, unlike most.

Won't. Ever. Happen.

Harmless revenge fantasies can be gratifying, but they will always remain harmless.

Carry on.

Posted by: bigyawn at November 27, 2012 10:56 PM (+5R2D)

203 I lurk quite a bit here and have not seen posts calling for that
lol, well it was in this very thread! xP

When did some anonymous numbnuts commenter in a thread = an Ace of Spades post?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at November 27, 2012 10:59 PM (xk0Xg)

204 "Face it, no conservative site - AoSHQ included - will ever, ever, ever take the time or effort to "out" leftist kids or other civilians guilty of hate speech toward conservatives. Ever. And Ace actually has a big enough soapbox to make a difference, unlike most."

...

except for all the conservative sites -- AoSHQ included -- who took the time to "out" the civilian fat chick we've been talking about for the last hundred comments...guilty of, i daresay, a far less hateful instance of Instant Stupid Human Syndrome.

are you even paying attention? o.O

Posted by: jimi ray at November 27, 2012 11:14 PM (79EF9)

205 "When did some anonymous numbnuts commenter in a thread = an Ace of Spades post?"

...let's go back to the op.

"I lurk quite a bit here and have not seen posts calling for that...perhaps I just scrolled to quickly on those threads."

"scrolling too quickly on these threads"? sounds like the op and i are in agreement on "post" constituting an entry into the comment thread.

i never said a main post called for criminal prosecution. main posts just sought to make a huge deal out of the fat chick's indiscretion to get her fired and ruin her life.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 27, 2012 11:16 PM (79EF9)

206 "jimi ray,
clue Free, and loving it..."

oh, soo~oo sorry about that. /rolleyes

is there a school i can go to where i can learn to present my point of view in such a meaningful and contextualised fashion as you do?

on that note, why don't you just come out and say, "IT'S ONLY BAD WHEN THEY DO IT"?

hypocrisy is the cornerstone of political partisanship.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 27, 2012 11:20 PM (79EF9)

207 Posted by: jimi ray at November 27, 2012 11:14 PM (79EF9)

Fair point, and point taken, though I'll argue that adding to the pile-on for a lone, random outlier does not = "sauce for the gander."

To clarify. There will be no concerted effort on the right to match tit for tat. Now, show me the instant, conservative "retaliation" for this Jezebel story and I'll eat my virtual hat.

Posted by: bigyawn at November 27, 2012 11:25 PM (+5R2D)

208 Glenn Beck started his own network, first on the internet, and now carried on Dish. We can't change the MSM, but wealthy conservatives can start new networks to compete against them with compelling, controversial, right-oriented content. Draw the average Joe away from Judge Judy and the network news and give him something he likes a lot better, meanwhile indoctrinating him with our message.

Posted by: Agnes Day at November 27, 2012 11:28 PM (D1eJg)

209 Indiscretion? Banging a woman other than your wife is an indescretion. SHE, was a POS and admitted as much.
Too bad for her she did it on company time. Maybe she will learn from this.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 27, 2012 11:33 PM (myiTy)

210 BTW Jimi, love the moral relevance you are shoveling.
A teenager makes a racist remark. That is the same thing as an adult woman on a business trip showing insulting dead soldiers. Riiiiight. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 27, 2012 11:54 PM (myiTy)

211 hypocrisy is the cornerstone of political partisanship.
jimi ray
------------------------------------------------------------------
Which you have displayed. Sadly, I doubt you'll ever understand how.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 27, 2012 11:55 PM (myiTy)

212 Yeah, I'm over the whole 'journalism' aspect. There is no such thing, and the sooner we embrace this new reality of ruthless Total Political War, the better.

Let's get on to the whole 'sauce for the gander' chapter of this saga, because that's where the action is now, frankly.

Posted by: LauraW. at 07:08 PM

Yep, Bill Whittle's words still ring true: We are in a Political Fight to the Death with People Who Will Stop at Nothing

One of the Rules for Radicals is Make the enemy live up to his/her own book of rules. Think about the genius of that. Just let that sink in. When a Republican has an ethics scandal, it’s “hypocrisy” and “double standards” and all the rest. But when a Clinton or a Pelosi or a Charley Rangel or a Chris Dodd or a Barney Frank or a William Jefferson has an ethics scandal, no one bats an eye. Why? Because of course they’re immoral! They’re Democrats.

Alinski could see that moral people have to be held to moral standards when immoral people do not. We’d better learn a lesson from this, right quick. [ . . . ]

Alinski and his followers want you to believe that if you fight dirty in response to people fighting dirty with you, then you have lost your morals and in fact your identity. But that’s a lie.

We are in a political fight to the death with people who will stop at nothing – and I’m not talking about your average decent Democrat, but rather these Alinski radicals. And if we don’t face the same realization as those Marines on Guadalcanal and give back as brutally as we have taken, then we will lose.

Which is what they want. And if we do lose to these kind of tactics, there will be no more decent people left in politics. As of today, we’re one short already.

http://bit.ly/LOcOp

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 28, 2012 12:21 AM (vUK/h)

213
I think Jimi is more right than some of you think.
I don't really see a significant difference in the teenager versus the 30 year old as SOME commenters on this site would be getting just as riled up if the teenager had done what she did, male or female.
You'd be wanting the colleges to refuse admittance, you'd be privately hoping they spend the rest of their lives in misery because you feel it would somehow make reparation for what they did.
Jimi is arguing there is a difference between someone being subject to consequences for their words and actions, and someone being piled on with many consequences and life long ridicule to the point where they might wish they were dead because it makes some folks think that the problem got fixed.
It's like somepeople on the internet hoping Sandusky gets sodomized in prison for committing rape. It may make you feel better, but it isn't justice, and it certainly doesn't repair the lives of the victims.
We should always hold people accountable for their actions in comparison with the gravity of them, but we shouldn't actively wish evil on them.

Posted by: Nate at November 28, 2012 01:40 AM (BBlzg)

214 == except for all the conservative sites -- AoSHQ included -- who took the time to "out" the civilian fat chick we've been talking about for the last hundred comments...guilty of, i daresay, a far less hateful instance of Instant Stupid Human Syndrome. ==

"fat chick"? Yeah typing something ugly off the top of your head, like you just did, is exactly the same thing as being in a physical place actually doing some thing ugly.

== I don't really see a significant difference in the teenager versus the
30 year old as SOME commenters on this site would be getting just as
riled up if the teenager had done what she did, male or female. ==

Where were all of those posts outing the Romney death threats posters again?

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler at November 28, 2012 03:08 AM (xk0Xg)

215 Well, since I appear to be stuck in this strange dimension where Barky the Clown is President, it appears that I'll have to learn the political style of this Bizarro Universe, which appears to be the complete and utter destruction of the lives and careers of political opponents.

Posted by: Cato at November 28, 2012 03:22 AM (gbppU)

216
Social media needs a rethink. Despite it's alleged security/sharing advantages over Facebook, Google+ proved to be really unfriendly to not being associated with my URL or other Google presences including theoneswhich I use for work. Where I work for law firms, that's a fatal fail. Even the long-term clients Ihave that know me personally don't necessarily want my political views to be easily connected to their firms. I confess to being a social media novice in many ways, but it seems to me that the entire thrust of Facebook, Google+ and their progeny is to force you to have a less-than-anonymous internet identity which their advertisers can whore to, and your privacy can go fuck itself. Until they make me feel otherwise right down to my loins, they can kiss me right down to my loins.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at November 28, 2012 03:33 AM (WLuv5)

217 26 When can we start fighting fire with Global Thermo Nuclear War? You want to play a game?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 27, 2012 07:38 PM (X/+QT)

-----

MENA/Central Asia will play first, probably India and Pakistan but perhaps Iran and the only other capable nation in the neighborhood. There's not enough money in the game. Conventional war is so much better suited to crony capitalism/fascism.

Hopefully after the first game is played no one will want to play again for a long while.

Posted by: Not Ready To Unsock at November 28, 2012 05:09 AM (BgIBZ)

218 So why aren't these "reporters" being lined up against a wall yet?

Posted by: GMan at November 28, 2012 07:49 AM (sxq57)

219
I am so frigging sick of other people telling me and or my children whatto think, say, read, watch, write, eat, drive, breath, buy, pay,wear, who to vote for, who to hate, who to like . . . . ARGGGGG!!!
I cannot stand arrogant ignorance.

Posted by: MWTexas at November 28, 2012 09:24 AM (N05oL)

220 I wonder what would happen if one of the kids thus named filed a civil suit for harassment against the author and against the editor/publisher? I would willingly chip in for the legal fees.

Posted by: vivi at November 28, 2012 10:35 AM (uGAD+)

221 "We need to stop pussyfooting around." Spot. On. This is the point where we need to fight fire with fire! No more bringing a knife to a gun fight. Man up. Lock and load. The spirit and courage that drove our forefathers to go toe to toe with the greatest power at the time, England, and win is the same as what is needed now. We must preserve the integrity of the gift bestowed upon us and get the socialist tyranny out of our government.

Posted by: American_Spirit at November 28, 2012 05:21 PM (yfy6n)

222 These are the same people defending criminals like Bill Ayers for youthful indescretions like blowing up people whose politics they didn't like.

Posted by: docweasel at November 29, 2012 10:35 AM (h0KX8)






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