Overnight Open Thread (11-25-2012)

Turkey: It's what's for dinner the next 4.62 nights.

Does Too Much Education Make People Economically Dumb?

Well it sure seems that way.

In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.  The cognitive dissonance is almost painful.  All of them consistently embrace big spending - and, therefore Obama and his fellow Democrats - because they've been trained to believe that the spending on welfare, entitlements, and "select" businesses is a "good thing."

And here's a graphic making the rounds which is supposed to show that all the 'smart' states voted for Obama.

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Yet when you look at their real world performance, the 'smart' states all seem headed for a giant fiscal implosion.

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Some ideas such as spending 130% of your tax revenue year in and year out are so stupid that only the highly educated could possibly believe in them. Yet they're also likely too educated to learn any economic lessons from the coming tutorial in Real World Econ 101.

Worse is Better: All-out Middle East war as good as it gets

This is by Spengler back in September but nothing in his analysis has really changed since then.

If a contrarian thought might be permitted, consider the possibility that all-out regional war is the optimal outcome for American interests. An Israeli strike on Iran that achieved even limited success - a two-year delay in Iran's nuclear weapons development - would arrest America's precipitous decline as a superpower.

From the US perspective a region of dysfunctional (albeit radical) basket case countries would be the next best alternative to a true Arab spring.

In the long view of things, there is not much cause for optimism about the Muslim world. It contains two kinds of countries: those that can't feed their children, like Egypt, and those that have stopped having children, like Iran, Turkey, Algeria and Tunisia. Muslim nations seem to pass directly from infancy to senescence without stopping at adulthood, from the pre-modern directly to the post-modern, as I wrote in my book Why Civilizations Die (and Why Islam is Dying, Too).

There is no reason to expect most of the Muslim countries to go quietly into irreversible decline. All-out regional war is the likely outcome sooner or later. We might as well get on with it.

Some Positive News: Last Surviving Mumbai Terrorist Executed

Ajmal Kasab, the last surviving gunmen who took part in the Mumbai Massacre in 2008, has been executed according to the Indian government.
Only when he was being taken to the gallows did Ajmal Kasab lose his composure. "Allah kasam maaf karna. Aisi galthi dobara nahi hogi. (I swear by Allah, please forgive me. I won't make such a mistake again)," were the last coherent words uttered by Kasab as he was taken to the gallows at Yerawada central prison on Wednesday morning. Sources said Kasab then spoke incoherently for a while until the lever was pulled.

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Steven Denbeste Update

He's in rehab and doing better. It turns out it was an ischemic stroke in his Pons.

Has an important battle ever been decided by single combat?

There are many tales of single combat battles but few documented cases:

Livy later reports a likelier tale of single combat circa 361 BC involving the Romans and the Gauls. The two armies were camped on opposite banks of a river when a Gaul of "extraordinary stature" approached the bridge between them and taunted the Romans, calling for the bravest to come out and fight. An average-looking Roman named Titus Manlius rose to the challenge and administered a fatal shellacking to his oversized opponent. The Gauls freaked and ran.
We hear little more about single combat till 1016 AD, when Edmund Ironside of England and the invading Canute of Denmark were repeatedly hurling their armies at each other with great loss of life but no definite results. According to one dubious 12th-century account, this ended when the weary English nobles, asked to prepare for yet another go-round, told the king: you want to win this one so bad, bubba, fight it yourself. Both leaders agreed, and they duked it out till Canute suggested calling it a draw, whereupon the two ruled their kingdoms together.

'Father of digital imaging' Bryce Bayer dies aged 83

You probably never heard of him but every time you use a digital camera you use his work.

Bryce Bayer, former Eastman Kodak scientist, and inventor of the Bayer Filter -- found with most modern digital image sensors -- has sadly recently passed. Bayer's work with Kodak left an indelible mark on almost every digital image you see today, both figuratively, and literally. His eponymous color filter, developed in 1976, used a mosaic layout of red green and blue filters that enables light sensors to create full color images. The design imitates the way the human eye perceives color, with twice as much green as red or blue, and the resulting output is then interpreted with "demosaicing" algorithms to produce an accurate, RGB image. Bayer's work also included significant contributions to other areas of digital photography, including storage, enhancement and printing. Bayer died on November 13th in Bath, Maine aged 83.

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10 Chemical Compounds with Joke Names

Hey baby - would you prefer some Dickite or Cummingtonite? How bout both?

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Death by Boobeh

It's not the worst way to go:

A buxom woman has been accused of trying to kill her lawyer boyfriend. with her 38DD breasts.

Franziska, 33 from Germany, who weighs nine stone is accused of 'attempted manslaughter with a weapon' after her 13-stone boyfriend claimed she tried to smother him with her breasts and pretend it was a sex game.

...'She was sitting on me naked and I was kissing her breasts. Suddenly she grabbed my head and pushed between her breasts with all of her force.

'I couldn't breathe any more, I must have turned blue. I couldn't tear myself free and I thought I was going to die.'

He said that with his last reserves of strength he had managed to extricate himself from the woman's vice-like grip and fled naked to a neighbour and demanded he called the police.

...I asked her why she wanted to smother me to death with her breasts and she told me: "Treasure - I wanted your death to be as pleasurable as possible."'

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Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [526 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse' [73.84 posts/day]
2 [457 comments] 'Vic'
3 [417 comments] 'kbdabear'
4 [372 comments] 'BCochran1981'
5 [349 comments] 'eman '
6 [315 comments] 'chemjeff'
7 [299 comments] 'Harlekwin15'
8 [273 comments] 'Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney'
9 [245 comments] 'Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual'
10 [230 comments] 'toby928? for TB'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [153 names] 'Comrade Kulak' [21.48 unique names/day]
2 [99 names] 'kbdabear'
3 [44 names] 'Alex'
4 [42 names] 'fluffy'
5 [41 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
6 [30 names] 'andycanuck'
7 [25 names] 'Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual'
8 [25 names] 'The Political Hat'
9 [24 names] 'Count de Monet'
10 [24 names] 'Doctor Fish'

The group. Yeah.

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Comments

1 This is wrong, but I laughed anyway

Hitler Sings the Jeffersons Theme Song

http://tinyurl.com/d6jfosk

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 09:51 PM (wwsoB)

2 Yo all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 25, 2012 09:55 PM (Ech5T)

3 I'd like a video link to that hanging. And a pony for Christmas.

Posted by: Dang at November 25, 2012 09:55 PM (R18D0)

4 FINALLY.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 09:56 PM (sdi6R)

5 Third in comments this week. My porn surfing has suffered immensely

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 09:56 PM (wwsoB)

6 Hot dog!

Posted by: otho at November 25, 2012 09:56 PM (yBF/9)

7 See's Candy Peanut Brittle may be the finest expression of the candy-maker's art.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 25, 2012 09:57 PM (GsoHv)

8 good to be home now off to bed and next time i say i'm going to california....for the love of GOD stop me......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 25, 2012 09:57 PM (GVxQo)

9 Evening all. Everyone tired of turkey yet?

Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 09:57 PM (u25eL)

10 "Allah kasam maaf karna. Aisi galthi dobara nahi hogi. (I swear by Allah, please forgive me. I won't make such a mistake again),"

No... You won't.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 09:58 PM (x/9BF)

11 Intelligence is not the same thing as smarts. Education is not the same thing as intelligence.

Posted by: joncelli at November 25, 2012 09:58 PM (CWlPF)

12 They say imitation is the best form of flattery….

http://tinyurl.com/cu7dk92

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

13 Damn. Where is everyone? In a turkey induced coma?

Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 10:00 PM (u25eL)

14 Percent with college degrees ... in WHAT?

I'm assuming that if you listed those states with percentages of those with business degrees only, it would look quite different

Reminds me of that old Emo Phillips joke; "I used to think that the brain was the most fascinating part of the body ... until I remembered who was telling me this"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:00 PM (wwsoB)

15 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 10:01 PM (JMmQ9)

16 I don't what they do to people's brain when they go to college. Is it removed and reprogrammed or just a frontal lobotomy? When the some of the first words out of their mouths are "the government should......." I know I'm dealing with a college educated idiot.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (+9AX9)

17 Hi Alton. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (u25eL)

18 The 'best educated state' has an affirmative action fraud and dim bulb John Kerry as Senators (soon enough).


I'm so fuckin proud.

Posted by: fluffy at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (z9HTb)

19 Good job Maetenloch.

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (I2LwF)

20 I object to any state that voted for Al Franken and Jesse Ventura being called 'smart'.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 10:03 PM (x/9BF)

21 hi all

ACK how did I make it to 6th? I apologize to Moron Nation

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:04 PM (d/5qf)

22 Greetings to all !!!!! Hope Thanksgiving was great for everyone . I am very thankful to be in Texas !!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 25, 2012 10:04 PM (fM3nD)

23 Those red staes require re-education. Incorrect thinking must be rectified.

Posted by: otho at November 25, 2012 10:04 PM (yBF/9)

24 Intelligence is not the same thing as smarts. Education is not the same thing as intelligence.
Posted by: joncelli at November 25, 2012 09:58 PM (CWlPF)
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Some of the most educated people I know (family) are ill equiped to handle the most simple things in life. Too smart by half.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2012 10:05 PM (jucos)

25 I'm so fuckin proud.
Posted by: fluffy at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM (z9HTb)

I thought it was "I'm wicked proud."

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 10:05 PM (x/9BF)

26 hey jewells!

there was no serious injury or significant property damage, so I guess it was a successful holiday weekend

how 'bout you?

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 10:05 PM (JMmQ9)

27 What happened when the turkey got into a fight?

Posted by: grease monkey at November 25, 2012 10:05 PM (VSWPU)

28 I thought it was "I'm wicked proud."


That, too.


Night, Morons

Posted by: fluffy at November 25, 2012 10:06 PM (z9HTb)

29 Self satisfied smug liberals are the WORST. They know so much that just isn't true.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 25, 2012 10:07 PM (jucos)

30 CBD, I posted a second gif. You see it?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:07 PM (GEICT)

31 16
When the some of
the first words out of their mouths are "the government should......." I
know I'm dealing with a college educated idiot.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 10:02 PM

When the words are "the government MUST ... " , you know they have a Masters degree

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:07 PM (wwsoB)

32 Good evening, good people. Deer season is done for me, the M-14 did make a fine deer rifle with Remington Corelokt. Of course at 60 feet, a bow may well have been as effective. I seriously doubt that I've ever shot a deer further than 70 yards in my life, due to the absolute jungle we hunt in.

Tis now time to harass the waterfowl mercilessly.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 25, 2012 10:08 PM (SAMxH)

33 In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of
whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the
California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.


My dedicated libtard sister and her husband, in discussing the CA amendment requiring bigger majorities to pass spending increases from a couple of years back was necessary "to force the Republicans in the state to be responsible and be part of the process."

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 10:08 PM (hO9ad)

34 4th? I seem pretty locked in at about there. Eh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:08 PM (GEICT)

35 An idiot at least has a reasonable excuse or explanation for voting for a Democrat.

A smart person has to pretend it actually is a good idea.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:09 PM (bWwMZ)

36 Death by snoo-snoo!

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 25, 2012 10:09 PM (5H6zj)

37 Math is so racist!!1! Budgets are racist because investments in Green energy and LGBTQ community tolerance centers and education for left-handed lesbian Inuit studies can't be "budgeted" and its all the rich 1% fault anyway because they steal all the money from womyn and queers and Africans and those who love Gaia in order to impose their evil kyriarchy and oppress us to keep us from forming non-hierarchical communes were we can enjoy choom and have all the free contraceptives we want and stuff!

NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!1!
NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!1!
NO JUSTIC NO PIECE!!1!

Posted by: Social Science Graduate Student at November 25, 2012 10:09 PM (sZTYJ)

38 Mine was great Alton. Kids just wanted to have dinner here instead of the usual shuffling off to my SIL's house. So it was hubby and me and the kids and their SO's and my mama. Great time. Think I may just do this every year. More food than we needed, still tons left but plan on making my famous turkey soup next weekend.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 10:09 PM (u25eL)

39 The idea that people can be educated beyond their level of intelligence is pretty easily proved by our current condition in California, yes.

What a depressing thought.

Oh, well.

Good night. I have to get up at 4:45, and I hurt like hell, so I'm going to get a bath and go to bed. Gotta do my part to keep California's economy going, so they can steal everything I make!

Posted by: Dianna at November 25, 2012 10:10 PM (mKMj1)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:10 PM (GsoHv)

41 Early OT rant. I didn't think I could hate people in general more than after the election but I was mistaken. Some lowlife broke the lock on my locker at the gym tonight and stole my wallet. The rage I'm feeling is disconcerting. That I have to be worried about idenity theft beyond just the money lost and aggravation of replacing my licenses (chl) has me about to go postal.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 25, 2012 10:10 PM (Tqh1Y)

42 The Government=Not Me.

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:11 PM (NIZHJ)

43 Those college educated states lead the nation in banking and high finance. You know, those evil capitalists who must be punished by those same anointed college grads

I would imagine though that the Northeast has the most lawyers per capita

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:11 PM (wwsoB)

44 Livy later reports a likelier tale of single combat circa 361 BC involving the Romans and the Gauls. The two armies were camped on opposite banks of a river when a Gaul of "extraordinary stature" approached the bridge between them and taunted the Romans, calling for the bravest to come out and fight. An average-looking Roman named Titus Manlius rose to the challenge and administered a fatal shellacking to his oversized opponent. The Gauls freaked and ran.

We hear little more about single combat till 1016 AD, when Edmund Ironside of England and the invading Canute of Denmark were repeatedly hurling their armies at each other with great loss of life but no definite results. According to one dubious 12th-century account, this ended when the weary English nobles, asked to prepare for yet another go-round, told the king: you want to win this one so bad, bubba, fight it yourself. Both leaders agreed, and they duked it out till Canute suggested calling it a draw, whereupon the two ruled their kingdoms together.


This must have been the origin of the Black Knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:12 PM (sdi6R)

45 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:08 PM (GEICT)


I'd take 4th with her:

http://tinyurl.com/4xz74ka


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:12 PM (GsoHv)

46 In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of
whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the
California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.

My dedicated libtard sister and her husband, in discussing the CA amendment requiring bigger majorities to pass spending increases from a couple of years back was necessary "to force the Republicans in the state to be responsible and be part of the process."

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 10:08 PM (hO9ad)


Now that the Democrats have 2/3 majorities in the California legislature, they won't be able to legitimately blame the Republicans since the Dems now have absolute power.

Of course, the Dems will blame the GOP regardless... they gotta have a boogie-man!

Posted by: Refugee from the Fools Golden State at November 25, 2012 10:12 PM (sZTYJ)

47 41
Early OT rant. I didn't think I could hate people in general more than
after the election but I was mistaken. Some lowlife broke the lock on
my locker at the gym tonight and stole my wallet. The rage I'm feeling
is disconcerting. That I have to be worried about idenity theft beyond
just the money lost and aggravation of replacing my licenses (chl) has
me about to go postal.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 25, 2012 10:10 PM

Cancel your gym membership if you can and let them know why. Tell others why. The gym management then might have the incentive to find out who's stealing shit from lockers

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:13 PM (wwsoB)

48 A smart guy at work voted against all the California tax increases and for Obama.

Another one is fully convinced California is in financial trouble because taxes are too low.

Another thinks her carbon footprint is too big.

All of them are very smart scientists and pretty cool people.

The problem with liberalism runs much deeper than smart or dumb.

A great deal of it comes from minds being sheltered and from peer pressure.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM (bWwMZ)

49 Sorry to hear that Sebastion. I was robbed once. They broke into my apartment while I was sleeping and stole our new stereo and my purse. I was beyond pissed.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM (u25eL)

50 That sux Sebastian.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM (5H6zj)

51
Good evening, good people. Deer season is done for me, the M-14 did make a fine deer rifle with Remington Corelokt
=====
Pennsylvania's rifle season starts at the crack of dawn tomorrow.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM (9ghZ6)

52 The 'smart' states voted for Obama because they are all indoctrinated to think that Communist will work this time. The people who tried it before where to dumb to do it right but when they do it the 80 million that died from it will not die, they have the smarts to make it work.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 25, 2012 10:16 PM (Ea64Y)

53 Titus Manlius

Heh, Manlius. Sounds like a George Lucas character.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 10:16 PM (N+xco)

54 Sebastian, my sympathies. Theft is an insult to our expectation that we should be able to live in peace with our neighbors.

Posted by: Mindy at November 25, 2012 10:16 PM (6jLT3)

55
In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of
whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the
California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.

My reply to them would be "You dumbass. You got what you ask for. BWAAHAHAHAHA."

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 10:16 PM (+9AX9)

56 YAY THIRD IN NAMES

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:17 PM (aPAIU)

57 Titus Manlius? Man Boobs.

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:17 PM (NIZHJ)

58 In the wake of the election, I've heard five Obama supporters - all of whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.

Probably shocked also that their sister who married an alcoholic shows up with bruises on her a lot. They were sure that marriage would "moderate" his behavior

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:18 PM (wwsoB)

59 How the fuck did end up in the 5 spot?




Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (bWwMZ)

60 The main determinant of party ID is your parents party ID.

I suspect liberalism is genetic, too.

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (I2LwF)

61 Ugh, TWD needed a main character, or at least the Gov.'s scientist, dead tonight to avoid falling into its season two pattern.


Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (I88Jc)

62 Also, Canute got a bad reputation. When I was a kid, I heard the story of how he unsuccessfully commanded tide to recede, which was interpreted as evidence of what an arrogant prick he was.

Now it appears that he conducted that little demonstration as a lesson for his noblemen, saying, "See? I may be King, but I'm only human after all. I can't command the tide to recede."

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (sdi6R)

63 45 I'd take 4th with her:

http://tinyurl.com/4xz74ka


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:12 PM (GsoHv)



Imogen Thomas


http://tinyurl.com/c84s94s

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (GEICT)

64 You want a piece of me? YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME???

Posted by: The Iceberg that Sank the Titanic at November 25, 2012 10:20 PM (pwyhn)

65 My reply to them would be "You dumbass. You got what you ask for. BWAAHAHAHAHA."

Pretty much. When your dog makes a mess in the carpet, you don't try to reason with him not to do it again because you lack a common language.

You rub his nose in the spot until he figures it out himself.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 10:20 PM (hO9ad)

66 Another one is fully convinced California is in financial trouble because taxes are too low.



Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM

No, he thinks it's in financial trouble because OTHER PEOPLES taxes are too low



Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:20 PM (wwsoB)

67 Loved the Chemistry names, i plan on double majoring, with one of the majors being chemistry

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:20 PM (aPAIU)

68 Well, here is part of the problem when it comes to college.

I say it is primarily because students in general don't have a lot of great critical thinking skills going into college. So when they get to college and they encounter these liberal professors, they don't have the tools to critically analyze their claims. They just accept whatever the authority figure says.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (d/5qf)

69 good to be home now off to bed and next time i say i'm going to california....for the love of GOD stop me......

Could be worse, could be Yuma.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (xKC/c)

70 Another thinks her carbon footprint is too big.



Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:14 PM

Does this dress make my carbon footprint look too big?

Posted by: Meggie McBoobs at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (wwsoB)

71 Alex, wise choice

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (d/5qf)

72 I suspect liberalism is genetic, too.

I suspect it's 0% genetic, 100% indoctrination.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (N+xco)

73 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas.

Maybe.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:22 PM (bWwMZ)

74 Cancel your gym membership if you can and let them know why. Tell others why. The gym management then might have the incentive to find out who's stealing shit from lockers

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:13 PM (wwsoB)

And insist upon a refund, not just a cancellation.

Loudly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:23 PM (GsoHv)

75 I call BS on the map. Alaska does not have a gap. It fills it with oil revenue, so no gap. Perhaps tax revenue is down, but that does not equal a spending issue in AK.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:23 PM (VLG62)

76 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas.

With all due respect, you're delusional.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (pwyhn)

77 62 Also, Canute got a bad reputation. When I was a kid, I heard the story of how he unsuccessfully commanded tide to recede, which was interpreted as evidence of what an arrogant prick he was.

Now it appears that he conducted that little demonstration as a lesson for his noblemen, saying, "See? I may be King, but I'm only human after all. I can't command the tide to recede."
Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (sdi6R)



So Obama was absent when they taught that parable?

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (I2LwF)

78 What a puny little piece of frozen ice

Posted by: Greenland at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (aPAIU)

79 73 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:22 PM (bWwMZ)




I'm your huckleberry.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (GEICT)

80 Hi, all
Interesting discussions over Thanksgiving. My sister tells me that they're going to start taxing employer supplied health insurance as income. Anyone know if this is true. Also, she works for an insurance company and she's been told that health insurance premiums are expected to skyrocket. I've already received the letter so that is probably true for everyone.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (ANmol)

81 Is Alaska accepting lower 48ers or are they full up? Unemployment rate?

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (9ghZ6)

82 Thanks chemjeff. Stupid question but what did you major in

Posted by: H202 at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (aPAIU)

83 I say it is primarily because students in general
don't have a lot of great critical thinking skills going into college.
So when they get to college and they encounter these liberal professors,
they don't have the tools to critically analyze their claims. They just
accept whatever the authority figure says.


Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (d/5qf)

And these are the idiots with the "Question Authority" bumper stickers. They can't, and they don't, and they won't. But of course, they CARE deeply.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (VLG62)

84 See that ice? Watch this.

Posted by: Capt. Francesco Schettino at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (pwyhn)

85 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:19 PM (GEICT)

That's lovely.

http://tinyurl.com/c7eqr34


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (GsoHv)

86 nerdygirl.. yes it's true.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (u25eL)

87 More molecules with silly names:
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/sillymolecules/sillymols.htm

For example: Moronic Acid

This is a triterpenoid organic acid that is found in Pistacia resin, and is therefore of interest to people studying archaeological relics, shipwrecks and the contents of ancient Egyptian jars. Its name comes from its corresponding hydroxy acid, which was originally named morolic acid since it was isolated from the heartwood of the mora tree, mora excelsa. The keto acid then became moronic acid. Derivatives of this are called moronates, as in 'which moron-ate the contents of this jar?'

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 10:26 PM (sZTYJ)

88 Most college degrees are more likely to make you liberal than to make you smart.

Posted by: Gay and Lesbian Studies at November 25, 2012 10:26 PM (SkyIE)

89
I say it is primarily because students in general don't have a lot of great critical thinking skills going into college. So when they get to college and they encounter these liberal professors, they don't have the tools to critically analyze their claims. They just accept whatever the authority figure says. [i/]
I agree with you on that. If they get into a disagreement with their Prof. he can circularly argue them into his position.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 25, 2012 10:26 PM (+9AX9)

90 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas.

With all due respect, you're delusional.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (pwyhn)

I said maybe.

There are documented cases of Lefties coming to the Dark Side.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:26 PM (bWwMZ)

91 Alaska has low unemployment but the highest suicide rate. If you have any major emotional changes as a result of seasonal changes I suggest not moving there

Posted by: Alaska facts at November 25, 2012 10:26 PM (aPAIU)

92 73 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas. Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:22 PM (bWwMZ)

In order for that to happen, the mind has to be able to connect the source of the pain to its cause. And these are people who vote for the guy who says he wants to raise taxes and then get all confused when taxes go up. If you can't process cause and effect the pain is wasted.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 10:27 PM (x/9BF)

93 I've already received the letter so that is probably true for everyone.Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:24 PM (ANmol)The way I understand it, the cadillac policies will get taxed. I think any policy over $12,000 per year.

Posted by: robtr at November 25, 2012 10:27 PM (rTgOf)

94 "Could be worse, could be Yuma."
Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 10:21 PM (xKC/c)
Poor Yuma, gets no respect.

Posted by: Yuman at November 25, 2012 10:28 PM (zCPui)

95 I suspect it's 0% genetic, 100% indoctrination.

well, it's certainly 0% genetic, but I don't think it is 100% indoctrination.

I was at Barnes and Noble the other day and I was browsing through Lakoff's "Moral Politics" book. (yes, that Lakoff) Of course he does a poor job at explaining the moral reasoning behind conservatism, but I accept him at his word on his explanation of the moral reasoning behind liberalism, and that is, to liberals, government is the Nurturing Parent figure.

which kind of goes with why you have so many liberals who seem unconcerned with issues of liberty and freedom as they seek to grow and expand the state. to them, citizens are children, and the only liberty that we citizens ought to have is akin to the liberty that a child has while in a playpen. Government constructs the playpen, and provides the child with all of its essential needs, and then the child is "free" to do whatever it wishes - inside the playpen. that seems to be their concept of liberty.

so yeah, to them, single-payer health care is great - it relieves the citizens of that pesky burden of having to provide for their own needs, and allows them more "play time" in the playpen.

it is a twisted view of liberty but that is what I think is going on.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:28 PM (d/5qf)

96 "Education" is top-down, but "learning" is bottom-up.

The top-down approach focuses on the human ability to learn things in isolation, like the rules of a new game, and it can be done without engaging the bottom-up global context-fitting machinery of coherence.

So the "educated" often have wildly contradictory knowledge bases because their different knowledge domains have never been forced to interact on an integrated, "real-world" basis.

But you guys already know this. 8-)

Posted by: piercello at November 25, 2012 10:28 PM (E/6f0)

97
In order for that to happen, the mind has to be able to connect the source of the pain to its cause. And these are people who vote for the guy who says he wants to raise taxes and then get all confused when taxes go up. If you can't process cause and effect the pain is wasted.

Especially when the mediacontinuously points outthat the pain is coming from everywhere BUT the actual source.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:29 PM (9ghZ6)

98 Stupid question but what did you major in

Three guesses, and the first two don't count

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:29 PM (d/5qf)

99
The correlation between the states'economicconditionsand educational rankingsmakes a powerful argument that what passes for college "education" these days is not only a huge waste of moneybut downright harmful to society.
In other words, liberalism ruins everything it infects.

Posted by: JPS at November 25, 2012 10:29 PM (wS6Sf)

100 Mr Garrison's Christmas Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2VszpHHY0

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:30 PM (wwsoB)

101 88. Looks like I have a competitor

Posted by: Green Studies at November 25, 2012 10:30 PM (aPAIU)

102 Poor Yuma, gets no respect.

From what I've seen, it's a great place to be.

From.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 10:30 PM (xKC/c)

103 Number 1? Seriously?

I didn't even think I'd be on there this week.

What does it say that nobody is ever happy to be the one at the top spot?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:30 PM (piMMO)

104 In order for that to happen, the mind has to be able to connect the source of the pain to its cause. And these are people who vote for the guy who says he wants to raise taxes and then get all confused when taxes go up. If you can't process cause and effect the pain is wasted.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 10:27 PM (x/9BF)

True, but there is a population distribution in place. Some can never change and some can change when the proper forces are applied.

Plus, far too few have felt any real pain.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (bWwMZ)

105 Ohh, ohh? I know this. Chemistry?

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (NIZHJ)

106 By the measures being used here someone with a ph.d in Poetry is "better educated" than someone with a Bachelor's in Mechanical Engineering. Explains a lot.

Posted by: DAve at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (XDC0v)

107 Number 1? Seriously?

at least you aren't posting once every 5 minutes, like sven was that one week

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (d/5qf)

108 Now that the Democrats have 2/3 majorities in the California
legislature, they won't be able to legitimately blame the Republicans


Legitimate blame? The MFM will help them out. Just like all their stories about Republican intransigence somehow thwarting poor Barry's supermajority in his first two years.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 10:32 PM (N+xco)

109 "..'She was sitting on me naked and I was kissing her breasts. Suddenly she grabbed my head and pushed between her breasts with all of her force.
'I couldn't breathe any more, I must have turned blue. I couldn't tear myself free and I thought I was going to die.' "

This sounds like it could make a pretty good Harlequin romance novel.
Ya know, for the freakier housewives.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:32 PM (ANmol)

110 Ajmal Kasab, what was you job, what was your life like before you fell over the cliff and let the preachers burn a hole in your mind? Fool! Did you think that killing innocent people was "really" going to make a diff., a dent, a change? I sure hope you are enjoying those burning virgins right now.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 10:32 PM (DBH1h)

111 98. Um chemistry and gay anthropology.

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 10:32 PM (aPAIU)

112 I was having dinner at a Chinese restaurant with my son and a bunch of people came in from the local showing of "Lincoln." I live near a college town-the liberal epicenter of a blue state, They are all-20's or 20;s except for two people in their 50's. "I don't understand how Lincoln was a Republican" one said,.One of the young men so knowingly "Well the parties shifted. It was the Southern Strategy." I said "No they didn't" under my breath and as I walked out the door and into the parking lot I mumbled something about liberal idiot. I can't blame them really. Their education never taught them that the Republican party was the party of civil rights and to be honest I didn't know it either until four years ago. This is what we up against. This complete lack of knowledge and white washing of the history of the Dempcrat party and unless you read something other than Pravda Press people don't know it. Apparently. Spielberg didn't know it either but according to my son (who saw the film) the movie doesn't present the "parties shifted" lie. One conservative pre teen. A table of attractive, educated young people who will be voting in 2016.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 10:32 PM (v8RoL)

113 Chapter 2 would be where that guy whacks his girlfriend in the face with his dick.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (ANmol)

114 Okay, i find lincoln to be to communist for my tastes, but a person who is worried about there carbon footprint. REALLY

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (aPAIU)

115 sadly you are incorrect on the "gay anthropology" guess
but the "chemistry" guess is correct
well done, maybe you do have a few critical thinking brain cells

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (d/5qf)

116 "...like sven was that one week."

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (d/5qf)

Wasn't he just cutting and pasting his old stuff. It all sounded the same, so I stopped reading after the 850th comment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (GsoHv)

117 The Daily Mail disappoints enormously by not finding a picture of Franziska to go with that story.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (N+xco)

118 85 That's lovely.

http://tinyurl.com/c7eqr34


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:25 PM (GsoHv)



Because I'm a giver.


http://tinyurl.com/bqxe5zj


Not sure what's on the site....FYI.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (GEICT)

119 Chapter 2 would be where that guy whacks his girlfriend in the face with his dick.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (ANmol)


Go on...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (pwyhn)

120 These jeans make my carbon ass print look big.

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (NIZHJ)

121 90
There are documented cases of Lefties coming to the Dark Side.


Yo.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:34 PM (sdi6R)

122 The Institute for Global Leadership for Diverse Sustainability takes note of the insouciance here and is not pleased with the overall lack of awareness.

Mandatory schooling will be required.

Posted by: History at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (I88Jc)

123 "Of all ignorance, the ignorance of the educated is the most dangerous. Not only are educated people likely to have more influence, they are the last people to suspect that they don't know what they are talking about when they go outside their narrow fields." -- Thomas Sowell

Posted by: Icedog at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (PTS+l)

124
Gotta say, theCA propositions/measures were written with a very liberal/sneaky means..All were tax increases, (hello! vote against) yet on some you voted no and some yes...it was in the wording, and you definately had to read it more than once to figure out how they were trying to trick you. And with with the "beloved" Jerry Brown saying it was "for the children" you just knew that one was going to prevail.



P.S. See's Candies rules!

Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (y2Ojs)

125
Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:31 PM (NIZHJ)

bingo

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (d/5qf)

126 The Cummingtonite joke was old when I took second-year mineralogy, lo, these many years ago.

P.S. It really is a mineral, named after its discoverer, a fellow named, curiously enough, Cummington.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2012 10:36 PM (pFqpP)

127 "7 See's Candy Peanut Brittle may be the finest expression of the candy-maker's art.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo"

I used to know someone who would give people homemade chocolate covered toffee for Christmas. I'm not a toffee fan, but when you've had something like that homemade, wow. Ten times better than the stuff you buy. Another friend made frozen strawberry jam. Nothing like store jam. You want to eat it right out of the jar.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:36 PM (ANmol)

128 Chapter 2 would be where that guy whacks his girlfriend in the face with his dick. Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:33 PM (ANmol)

Dear ONT,

Something just happened to me that I just *had* to tell you about...

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 10:37 PM (x/9BF)

129 P.S. See's Candies rules my waistline.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (y2Ojs)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (GsoHv)

130 109 "..'She was sitting on me naked and I was kissing her breasts. Suddenly she grabbed my head and pushed between her breasts with all of her force.
'I couldn't breathe any more, I must have turned blue. I couldn't tear myself free and I thought I was going to die.' "


I don't see a problem there.

If I live, fine; if I die, that's fine too.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (sdi6R)

131 Watched Blue Valentine tonight.

What a miserable fucking movie. Do not watch it if you're sad or depressed because it will only make it worse.

On the other hand, Ryan Gosling is one hell of an actor.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (piMMO)

132 107 Number 1? Seriously?

at least you aren't posting once every 5 minutes, like sven was that one week




A Ron did the math, but it was something like a comment every 3 minutes, 16 hours a day, seven days a week.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (GEICT)

133 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 10:32 PM (v8RoL)

Textbooks always show a black man weeping as FDR's coffin rolls by. And JFK's and RFK's.

History is taught as the struggle between oppressive and liberating forces.

Freedom is measured in workers getting organized and government righting wrongs.

We are swimming in an ocean of Democrat Party propaganda.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (bWwMZ)

134 As my late, great Dad used to say about these types, "Too much education and not enough brains." He also said that there was nothing as uncommon as common sense. He will always be my Greatest Hero. RIP 2/24/1990

Posted by: CMU VET at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (dPSpR)

135 http://queeranthro.org/
I just made it up but there is a gay anthropology association. Identity politics. ITS WHATS FOR DINNER

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (aPAIU)

136 Evening all.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 10:38 PM (Ai+tZ)

137 I'm all for dying by luscious boobehs.

In fact, I pray for it every night.

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 10:39 PM (+AV7H)

138 Another friend made frozen strawberry jam. Nothing like store jam. You want to eat it right out of the jar.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:36 PM (ANmol)

This year, due to impending financial ruin, I'm giving my home-made apple jelly. It's a lovely shade of rose, because I cook it with the peels before I strain it, and I use both cinnamon and cloves. Tastes rather like apple pie, so I expect I will have second requests. Plus, it costs next to nothing to make if you buy the apples in bulk from an orchard or pick your own.
The strawberry crop sucked around here, or I would give that as well.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:39 PM (VLG62)

139 Dear ONT,

Something just happened to me that I just *had* to tell you about...

***

I never thought I'd write a letter like this.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:39 PM (piMMO)

140 Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:36 PM (ANmol)

I make kick-ass caramel, but the additional step of coating it with good chocolate is a huge, huge step. It is fantastically difficult to do it correctly, so if your friend needs another career, tell him (or her) that chocolate coating is it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (GsoHv)

141 Sydney Bristow, what a girl! I didn't get to watch that series while Mom and Dad were doing their last days, and I was the care giver, so I have been catching up recently. I think Sydney and me were made for each other. No really!! Bless all here who provided such good company over the holiday.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (DBH1h)

142 As for the comments regarding education levels...the dumbest people I've ever met was when I was in law school.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (GEICT)

143 This weekend for some reason has been a theme of unrequited love and confusing messages from women, in between stuffing my face in with turkey and pie.

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (+AV7H)

144 The problem is, Republicans have lost way too many affluent "white collar" voters chasing after SoCon votes. This is what you get, basically a coalition of mainly Southern states made of of working class whites.

The states that have a large percentage of college degrees should vote Republican, they are high earners and producers, not citizens that yearn for socialist government to deliver higher taxes and more food stamps. The problem is, people like Todd Akin and Rick Santorum are the face of the modern GOP.

We need a new coalition that can attract secular voters, and yes, that might mean we don't do as well in places like Mississippi or Alabama, but the GOP is now even having problems winning Senate seats in the Bible Belt.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (XDRsa)

145 Taking a look at those states is more evidence that elitists are credentials oriented, while most businesses are results oriented

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:41 PM (wwsoB)

146 No it doesn't Charlie Brown's dildo...however I grew up on it and worked there and it does rule.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 10:41 PM (y2Ojs)

147 lets see, is there a Black gay female studies association
no, but lets make one

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 10:41 PM (aPAIU)

148 Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:39 PM (VLG62)

I am a hook-nosed cheap, money-grubbing Jew, but when I get something home-made as a gift I am thrilled.

Don't sell your gifts short. That sounds wonderful.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:42 PM (GsoHv)

149 "An Israeli strike on Iran that achieved even limited success - a
two-year delay in Iran's nuclear weapons development - would arrest
America's precipitous decline as a superpower."

Education, smedukashon ... whatever, that sentence makes absolutely no sense.

Posted by: Gerry at November 25, 2012 10:42 PM (kWiY4)

150 I haven't checked, but don't the Republican candidates usually win the majority of the college educated demographic? I would assume that would be the case again this year, as the result was fairly close.

I guess that would be reason they put up a map based on percentage of college grads in a state rather then just ask who won the majority of the college educated. Of course based on their own implicit assumption (college grads are superior to other people) that would make Romney the superior candidate.

Posted by: Bill at November 25, 2012 10:42 PM (0hnzz)

151 Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (DBH1h)

What-- Alias? Be warned, that show goes over the Crazy Cliff at 200 MPH in season four.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 10:43 PM (x/9BF)

152 144. MISSOURI IS NOT IN THE BIBLE BELT. NOT EVEN CLOSE

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 10:43 PM (aPAIU)

153
Posted by: Jeepers at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM (XDRsa)

Sheesh, talk about confirmation bias.
You are seeing what you want to see.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:43 PM (d/5qf)

154 Sounds like the woman and her boyfriend needed some counseling long. long before she tried to smother him with her breasts. And why do they need to say she weighed Nine stone? As nine stone is something about 129 pounds it's not like she was huge. Maybe she was stressed out the pain of carrying around such huge breasts and needed breast reduction surgery? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 10:43 PM (v8RoL)

155
Does too much education make people economically dumb?




It does. Because people are being educated in literature, philosophy and ______ studies.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 10:43 PM (DoZD+)

156 This year, due to impending financial ruin, I'm giving my home-made apple jelly.

I hope the recipients are worthy of the gift. I've never met a home-made apple jelly I didn't like.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (xKC/c)

157 Don't sell your gifts short. That sounds wonderful.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:42 PM (GsoHv)

My son eats this out of the jar, but I usually make him put it on bread with some peanut butter. I don't always catch him, though.
Once in a while I happen upon a really great combination, and then can it. We eat it for a year and if we still like it, then I put it on my yearly rotation. Apple jelly is one of those things.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (VLG62)

158 I know who won the vote with incompetents.

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (NIZHJ)

159 155. GREEN STUDIES

Posted by: Alex the YELLLER at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (aPAIU)

160 P.S. See's Candies rules my waistline.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 25, 2012 10:35 PM (y2Ojs)


Have you tried Chocolatique.com?

Makes See's seem like Hershey's.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (bWwMZ)

161 Problem isn't with what people 'know' through education, but how much of that isn't so. People have been taught a lot of bullshit. They might be well trained in a particular field of study at a university, but at the same time have been a fed a diet of shit in the 'core curriculum'.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (KCvsd)

162 " See's Candy Peanut Brittle may be the finest expression of the candy-maker's art.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo"
"



I have that beat. My sister made a "Honey Bourbon Pumpkin Cheesecake" that is to die for. Eat all the chocolate you want. It will NEVER be as good as this.

Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (V70Uh)

163 158: GARY JOHNSON

Posted by: Alex the YELLLER at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (aPAIU)

164 You guys are so funny and smart. Pats all around! Backs for the morons and fronts for the Moronettes, as if it needed to be said.

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (I2LwF)

165 look, Jeepers, just say what you really believe: that you don't like the icky SoCons, that even if Akin and Romney had won you'd still want to throw the icky SoCons out of the party, because hey, they embarrass you, and you're tired of having to explain Santorum and Akin to your liberal friends

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (d/5qf)

166 Maybe the moronettes can clue me in: I've been using dating sites and lately I come across profiles where the girl talks about what an affectionate and loving person she is, and she has so much love to give, etc.

So I send her a nice email, she reads the email, and then.... that's it.

So I'm wondering, where did all that love go? What does it mean when women say they have so much love to give and share, and yet that never seems to be enough to respond to a simple, nice email?

And yes I was very polite and mentioned details in her profile to show I read it too. None of this, hey baby come sit on my face! silliness. I only do that for Craigslist anyway.

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (+AV7H)

167 We need a new coalition that can attract secular
voters, and yes, that might mean we don't do as well in places like
Mississippi or Alabama, but the GOP is now even having problems winning
Senate seats in the Bible Belt.


Posted by: Jeepers at November 25, 2012 10:40 PM

Socons comprise a large bloc of voters. How many of Meggie Mac's hipster ghey friends do you think your new coalition can draw in to replace them?

The Dems win because they have a large coalition of voters who believe they have a right to free shit and others have an obligation to pay for said free shit. Single women voters are more inclined to believe in "mommy government" that takes care of their needs while leaving them with plenty of expendable income to go shopping


Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (wwsoB)

168 A great deal of it comes from minds being sheltered and from peer pressure.

Well, found out for sure that my daughter (masters degree), SIL (masters degree) and son (still in college) all voted to have the rest of their lives ruined. I'm more than disappointed. More along the lines of disgusted. It's the cool thing to do, which is what is so disheartening. Gah! Neither son nor daughter have kids yet, so maybe when that happens, things will change. The funny thing is, the people they respect and admire so much are all conservative. That doesn't sway them, though.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 25, 2012 10:46 PM (S+/pH)

169
CBD @#7, if you ever pass through the Paso Robles area, try to find some of the almond brittle made by a small company there (only distributed locally, far as I know, I always get some when I drop by Halter Ranch winery, which is on the west side of 101, out near Tablas Creek and before Justin.

On the educated/stupid part: my despair is well-founded, and thus complete and robust. I really do think it's much, much worse than just20 years ago. "Education" is severely corrupted/politicized, as well as absolutely dumbed-down (critical thinking? what's that?). Large parts of science is politicized/corrupted. Journalism is long dead, and in areas of public policy has been replaced by (goofy, stupid, always wrong) advocacy, distortion, and worse (Rather-gate).

And in all these areas, those old enough to know better are often victims of their normal confidence in the division of labor. Example. Agood friend's brother is the chair of a physics dept. at a major east coast university. Over the last few years, my friend has tried to nudge his brother towards looking at the outlandish claims, data distortion, and general unscientific approach characterizing most "climate science". The brother seems shocked at each revelation, literally disbelieving. "We would never do that!" sort of reaction - and correct, his discipline would never reach that sorry state because it is actually based on, uh - science.

That reminds me. This friend's other sibling and associates, not long ago, automatically, effortlessly, and idiotically just blurted out "oh, that's because of Proposition 13" when CA's fiscal disaster was being discussed. These are east coast people, not seriously political (not seriously policy-oriented or informed, either). But it's just a given that even these people, so far away, AUTOMATICALLY ascribe a fiscal mess to limits on taxes. THAT is how pervasive the distortion is in the public square (media, academia, culture).

I know it's easy and common for people here to rant and otherwise express their outrage at the nonsense engulfing the US. But I think I have really reached a point of complete alienation from most of my fellow citizens (incl. the siblings, who are your typical educated/idiot types).

There IS no learning curve, people. Just as probably 5% of the populace has the slightest idea of what the 2008 "financial crisis" really was about or its origins, I see no reason to believe that the probable financial train-wreck now looming will result in ANY "learning".

Sorry, and I'll stop, but just listen to some of the oral arguments before the SCOTUS on the ridiculous, disastrous, and obviously absurdly un-constitutional health care "reform". I listened to about 10 min. of it - a jaw-dropping horror show. Nobody - not a single justice, neither counsel, clearly had the slightest idea of what insurance really is. On top of that, their shockingly illiterate discussion had NOTHING to do with the proper role of the court, the govt., or the plaintiffs. Bottom line: I think many generally smart and right-thinking people resemble slightly-boiled frogs, who don't realize how idiotic things have become. I don't see Mad Max times ahead, but I don't see any reason to expect the cretinized electorate, the dumbed-down and corrupt public square, or the illiterate elites to improve in my lifetime. Doom.

Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2012 10:46 PM (UViC2)

170 160: OH MY! I want the tower of delight

Posted by: Alex the YELLLER at November 25, 2012 10:46 PM (aPAIU)

171 108
Now that the Democrats have 2/3 majorities in the California

legislature, they won't be able to legitimately blame the Republicans

***

Apparently you didn't see the video clip a few years ago whem Bawney Fwank blamed Republicans for not stopping the Democraps from forcing banks to give loans to minorities with really bad credit.

Posted by: Gay and Lesbian Studies at November 25, 2012 10:46 PM (SkyIE)

172 My sister made a "Honey Bourbon Pumpkin Cheesecake" that is to die for.


umm... recipe?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:46 PM (d/5qf)

173 Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (bWwMZ)

Thanks so much.

I really need another source for decadent food that I cannot resist.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (GsoHv)

174 Gay and Lesbian Studies sock off

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (SkyIE)

175 141 Sydney Bristow, what a girl! I didn't get to watch that series while Mom and Dad were doing their last days, and I was the care giver, so I have been catching up recently. I think Sydney and me were made for each other. No really!! Bless all here who provided such good company over the holiday.

****

In case someone hasn't already posted it:

http://tinyurl.com/czxqhnt

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (piMMO)

176
The problem is, Republicans have lost way too many affluent "white collar" voters chasing after SoCon votes.





Good grief, here we go again.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (DoZD+)

177 150 I haven't checked, but don't the Republican candidates usually win the majority of the college educated demographic?

I don't think so. From what I have read, those with post-graduate degrees as well as dropouts with no education both tend to vote Democrat.

It's the ones in between who vote Republican.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (sdi6R)

178 #41 Sebastian Melmoth

I hate thieves with a white hot passion.
Here's a palate cleanser for you. A couple years ago I was shaking out my blanket in the parking lot at the beach and forgot to put my beach bag in the car. It had way more in it than I should have had. A couple hundred in cash, my credit cards, my checkbook, a brand new pair of glasses, my cell phone, an ipod, drivers license, insurance card.

I went back to look for it, asked around, and gave up and went home, feeling kind of sick at my stupid behavior. Police phoned, told me a young couple had turned it in. I mailed them a thank you letter telling them to go out on me, along with a nice reward.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (ANmol)

179 http://www.choclatique.com/cart.php?suggest=50b2e47194d33
DROOL

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:49 PM (aPAIU)

180 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (piMMO)

Thank God it ended the way I was hoping.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:50 PM (GsoHv)

181 Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (I2LwF)



Yo! So I have to ask, and I wasn't offended or anything at all, I'm just curious, in the gaming thread what did you mean if IRL I'm the same as my online persona? I guess the question is, what do I portray?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:50 PM (GEICT)

182 I have a M.Arch. degree. I also have worked for 20 some odd years in the field. My husband is also an architect. When we hear a presentation by some over-educated idiot in the field of Architecture, the stock comment we return is that said idiot actually believed it when they taught the bullshit spiel. IOW, there is a line of crap they teach architecture students to use when making presentations that make designs sound like they actually mean something, other than "I pulled this design outta my ass, and it's great!" You can hear it miles away, and it stinks. Over education at the expense of quality design and production. Too much hype and not enough substance.


I expect most professions are the same to some degree. The true measure of quality is not what one says about something, but what one is likely to purchase again.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:50 PM (VLG62)

183 And her lawyer boyfriend was about 182 pounds. He couldn't manage to put here or kick the 129 lb girlfriend to get away? Gives new meaning to the Shakespeare line, "First thing, let's kill all the lawyers."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 10:51 PM (v8RoL)

184 White chocolate fountain
Crying with joy

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:51 PM (aPAIU)

185 Not an 'ette, but what the hell.

has so much love to give

Key phrase meaning, "I am an emotional well of neediness that will drain your soul down to an emaciated husk."

Be glad they're not answering your emails.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 25, 2012 10:51 PM (xKC/c)

186 chemjeff,

stay tuned. I will get the recipe for you. Not tonight though. She has gone to bed.

She is allergic to gluten. So the crust was made of crushed nuts. Yum, even better than graham cracker.


Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 10:51 PM (V70Uh)

187 Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2012 10:46 PM (UViC2)

Do you remember the name of the company?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:52 PM (GsoHv)

188 @155 Because people are being educated in literature, philosophy...

Nope. It's because they are not being educated in literature and philosophy.
In most programs, there is no longer any historical core curriculum -- in any subject at all, including, of all things, history. They're getting a degree without an education.

Literature and philosophy are a great background for a deep understanding of economics, or even business administration. But you have to study it. They don't.

Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 10:52 PM (qaVK+)

189 So I'm wondering, where did all that love go? What does it mean when women say they have so much love to give and share, and yet that never seems to be enough to respond to a simple, nice email?

****

It means that she has lots of love to give to the right man. Just as you probably have lots of love to give to the right woman. Still, I think that if someone takes the time to write, and isn't stalkerish, then a simple "thank you" would be the courteous thing to do.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:52 PM (piMMO)

190 Meant "push her away" not "put here" Arrrrrgh; Typos.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 10:53 PM (v8RoL)

191 robtr,
I may have been unclear, the letter I referred to informed me that my insurance premiums will skyrocket. Went up $148 per month, rather than the usual $10-20 per month increase.

As a retiree, I pay for my own insurance.

If insurance increases for teachers, for instance, the way mine has, they will be in the "cadillac" category. Union teachers have very nice insurance.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 10:54 PM (ANmol)

192 The American Dream: Crucibles outweigh credentials.

Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 10:54 PM (I88Jc)

193
Thank God it ended the way I was hoping.

****

Never fail to appreciate a woman who goes through the effort to wear lingerie.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:54 PM (piMMO)

194 Plus my mom informed me that she is well informed, because she DVRs John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Chris Matthews, and Bill Maher. Then proceeded to tell my dad and me that we are in a bubble because we listen to rush and watch Fox News.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 25, 2012 10:55 PM (S+/pH)

195 Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 10:52 PM (qaVK+)

+1

History majors have a profound understanding of the lesbian culture in 17th century London, but don't know anything about Queen Elizabeth the1st.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:55 PM (GsoHv)

196 Packers you suck.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:55 PM (9ghZ6)

197 194: i would kill myself

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:56 PM (aPAIU)

198 195: aww the wonderful alleys named gropecunt

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:56 PM (aPAIU)

199 Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:44 PM (bWwMZ)

Thanks so much.

I really need another source for decadent food that I cannot resist.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (GsoHv)

You'll go broke pretty fast shopping there.

But, do try the chocolates made to taste like favorite snacks and desserts. They got them right and it is worth it.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (bWwMZ)

200 Yuma is probably very nice this time of the year. July can be hot. But it's a dry heat and not so bad.

Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (V70Uh)

201 194 You two should have her committed.

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (NIZHJ)

202 "Never fail to appreciate a woman who goes through the effort to wear lingerie."

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 25, 2012 10:54 PM (piMMO)

Don't worry...I appreciate it.

I am the lingerie buyer in the Dildo house.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (GsoHv)

203 115 degrees is hotter than 90, dry or not

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (aPAIU)

204 lets see, is there a Black gay female studies association
no, but lets make one

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 10:41 PM

Well I think Bisexual Asian Studies should have its own building. The question is: who goes? The math department or the hockey team? I think the hockey team. Think about it.

Posted by: President Garcia-Thompson at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (vUK/h)

205 Like I said, I think we were meant to be together! I would have never made her change! I liked the black one, and that nasty little whip!!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (DBH1h)

206
John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Chris Matthews, and Bill Maher.
====
These idiots do way more damage than we realize.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (9ghZ6)

207 197
194: i would kill myself

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:56 PM (aPAIU)


There is always a fine line between suicide and homicide.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (VLG62)

208 Grievance Studies majors know who to blame for all the suffering.

But very few know how to make gunpowder.


Posted by: Al at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (V70Uh)

209 #182,

Architecture school is an embarrassment to the profession. Way too many academics and apologists are indoctrinating a new generation of freaking kids that have no clue how to draw, let alone put a building together. The worship of modern styles (yeah reliving the 1920s and 1930s is really cutting edge) and cult like following and apologist for failed theorists is appalling.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (KCvsd)

210 stay tuned. I will get the recipe for you. Not tonight though. She has gone to bed.

okay, that would be awesome. that definitely sounds like something I want to try to make.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (d/5qf)

211 NEED CHOCOLATE FIX. anyone know a good white chocolate dealer

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (aPAIU)

212 'Lo, 'rons.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (kaalw)

213 202 I am the lingerie buyer in the Dildo house.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (GsoHv)




That's the funniest sentence I've read in a while.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 10:59 PM (GEICT)

214 b4I4q ru/18 qtπ

Posted by: Alfred E. Einstein at November 25, 2012 10:59 PM (Z/irl)

215
1 This is wrong, but I laughed anyway

Hitler Sings the Jeffersons Theme Song


Believe it or not, Sherman Hemsley was an avid fan of LSD.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 10:59 PM (tOkJB)

216 Just saw Skyfall tonight...excellent and Daniel Craig is the best Bond. I'd hit that.

Posted by: Keena at November 25, 2012 11:00 PM (FUo3j)

217 We need a chocolate thread, for as a baptist, and an 18 year old, alcohol isn't my thing

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 11:00 PM (aPAIU)

218 Key phrase meaning, "I am an emotional well of neediness that will drain your soul down to an emaciated husk."
******************************

Sounds likely.

************************
It means that she has lots of love to give to the right man. Just as you
probably have lots of love to give to the right woman. Still, I think
that if someone takes the time to write, and isn't stalkerish, then a
simple "thank you" would be the courteous thing to do.
************************

I do think if someone is by nature an overly affectionate and cheery person they have a disposition in being more polite and courteous than the general masses. I find it bothersome that even among these sorts I'm not even worth a blowoff email, and it's the sort I'm generally attracted to.

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:00 PM (+AV7H)

219 hi cthulhu, just trying to finish grading online quizzes, ugh
what is up with you tonite

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (d/5qf)

220 Yay! Socon vs. non-socon fight!

We've never done this before!

Well, at least the wine is good.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (Ai+tZ)

221 "These idiots [Stewart, Colbert, Maher] do way more damage than we realize."

Take heart, for most the kiddies ain't watching as much TV.

Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (I88Jc)

222 220 Yay! Socon vs. non-socon fight! We've never done this before! Well, at least the wine is good.
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (Ai+tZ)

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 11:02 PM (adaoe)

223 Maher does no damage, he has no audience compared to the first two.

Posted by: Fatman Alex at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (aPAIU)

224 The iceberg that sank the Titanic looks suspiciously like Disneyland's Matterhorn. Could it have been artificial? What nefarious perpetrator used it to send the Titanic to the bottom? What was his evil motive?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (kaalw)

225 Second best way to die is getting trampled underfoot at Victoria's Secret during Black Friday.

Preferably if you're in the fitting rooms, which is not odd at all because you were there with your... wife... helping her try on bras. For realsies.


Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (+AV7H)

226 "Textbooks always show a black man weeping as FDR's coffin rolls by. And JFK's and RFK's. "

The sad thing about that:
1. JFK and his Attorney General RFK had Martin Luther King spied on by the FBI
2. They used Sammy Davis Jr. to get the black vote, then refused to invite him to the inauguration.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (ANmol)

227 Architecture school is an embarrassment to the
profession. Way too many academics and apologists are indoctrinating a
new generation of freaking kids that have no clue how to draw, let alone
put a building together. The worship of modern styles (yeah reliving
the 1920s and 1930s is really cutting edge) and cult like following and
apologist for failed theorists is appalling.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (KCvsd)


The real issue is that most architecture professors couldn't produce a decent set of documents if their life depended upon it, and so they turn out graduates who cannot actually perform in the profession. Lots of screwy theory, but not one practical skill.
I went from architecture school to the CoE, and my first serious project was renovating a sewage treatment plant. At the end of my five year tour, I knew more about building than all of my professors combined.
Students come out of school thinking they are the greatest designers of all time, only to find out they can't do anything they think they can because a. the building code is strict and b. newbies get to do toilet room details and hardware schedules. Big bosses get to be designy guys. Oh well.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (VLG62)

228 #221, they watch clips on Youtube or Hulu instead and pass the disinformation around on social networking. The left has taken advantage of instant global communication networks in order to have what is essentially the most dishonest and virulent disinformation whisper campaign ever.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (KCvsd)

229 Good evening.

Man alive but I love coffee.

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (LUnTP)

230 John Stewart

okay, I have seen maybe two entire episodes of Jon Stewart in my life, but even with those two episodes, it was quite obvious to me that he was editing media clips in order to make Republicans look buffoonish, and that that was a standard part of his schtick. apparently, the Jon Stewart fanbois don't realize this and think Republicans act like this in real life? man, scary scary

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (d/5qf)

231 John Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Chris Matthews, and Bill Maher. ====These idiots do way more damage than we realize.
Posted by: USS Diversity at November 25, 2012 10:58 PM (9ghZ6)

Look on the bright side: Once the EPA shuts down all the power plants and we're back to candles, their influence will be negligible.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (x/9BF)

232 219
hi cthulhu, just trying to finish grading online quizzes, ugh
what is up with you tonite


Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (d/5qf)


If you're grading online quizzes, why isn't your software telling you a score?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (kaalw)

233 88 --- "Most college degrees are more likely to make you liberal than to make you smart."
Posted by: Gay and Lesbian Studies at November 25, 2012 10:26 PM (SkyIE)

Thats not true!!! Your a lier!!!!

Posted by: Edie the Education Major at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (C8mVl)

234 Man alive but I love coffee.

I love you more when you sip on my fine juices

Posted by: coffee at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (d/5qf)

235 If you're grading online quizzes, why isn't your software telling you a score?

because I include an essay part to the quizzes.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:05 PM (d/5qf)

236 Sipping it out of my Christmas themed mug which I got at HEB for a $1 which was made in China and probably giving me cancer from the lead paint but gaw'DAMN do I love me some coffee.

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (LUnTP)

237 #227, I have met way too many Arch professors which have completely retreated from practice. Even when they were in practice, the professor never completed a full set of construction documents, let alone run a project from start to finish. People that can't even find their way around IBC have no business teaching anyone.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (KCvsd)

238 I love you more when you sip on my fine juices
Posted by: coffee at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (d/5qf)

I want you.

In my mouth.

And dribbling down my chin.

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (LUnTP)

239 because I include an essay part to the quizzes.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:05 PM (d/5qf)

an essay in chemistry? What kind of question is that?

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (s765P)

240 220 Yay! Socon vs. non-socon fight!

We've never done this before!

Well, at least the wine is good.
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (Ai+tZ)




Yeah, wine isn't gonna cut it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (GEICT)

241 Pour it all over me!

Posted by: Robert...wait, wut? at November 25, 2012 11:07 PM (LUnTP)

242 220 Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (Ai+tZ)


Oh....and hi friend in my iPad.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:07 PM (GEICT)

243 234: Can i chew your leaves, or boil your beans. oh babyyyyyyyy

Posted by: Weird at November 25, 2012 11:07 PM (aPAIU)

244 an essay in chemistry? What kind of question is that?

Well, a question like: Okay, so you did the math and got a certain numerical value for some physical quantity. Now explain WHY the value you obtained is a reasonable value.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (d/5qf)

245 Not worried about non-so-cons. They will die off from various sexual diseases and not be a factor in the future.



Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (VLG62)

246 Posted by: Edie the Education Major at November 25, 2012 11:04 PM (C8mVl)

Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (x/9BF)

247 I've heard five Obama supporters - all of whom also voted for all the California Democrats and for all the California taxes - complain that their taxes are going up next year.

I increasingly get the feeling I'm in a particularly creepy episode of The Twilight Zone.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (xouud)

248 Robert: I'd give my left kidney to be able to shop at HEB

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (JMmQ9)

249 but they are a pain in the ass to grade, I have to wade through tons of dreck in order to get something that passes for 100% correct

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (d/5qf)

250 hmm, i have 110 proof bourbon in the basement, will that do?

Posted by: Weird at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (aPAIU)

251 240 220 Yay! Socon vs. non-socon fight!
We've never done this before!

Well, at least the wine is good.
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:01 PM (Ai+tZ)

Yeah, wine isn't gonna cut it.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:06 PM (GEI

Whiskey ?

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (vGCek)

252 The iceberg that sank the Titanic looks suspiciously like Disneyland's Matterhorn. Could it have been artificial? What nefarious perpetrator used it to send the Titanic to the bottom? What was his evil motive?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (kaalw)

The iceberg told investigators it saw the ship coming and tried to get out of the way, but the ship was going way too fast.

Then it broke down and began to melt.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (bWwMZ)

253 246 Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (x/9BF)




You've obv never spent any time around those in law school.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (GEICT)

254 @209 reliving the 1920s and 1930s is really cutting edge

I think you're right, but just wait until they relive the Italian Renaissance. Again.
Gonna look like the outtakes from that Gary Cooper/Patricia O'Neal movie.

The invention of the Butler Building put a lot of architects in their place, hard.

Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (qaVK+)

255 tcn,
Some of the best gifts I've gotten have been home made. We all have store bought stuff.
Because people work so many hours, but have to take care of their families and home, home made treats are a real luxury.

My mom used to make buckeyes, and 3 different kinds of truffles. She also made 5 kinds of Christmas cookies.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (ANmol)

256 Gay and Lesbian Studies sock off

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 25, 2012 10:47 PM (SkyIE)


Oh you!

Posted by: Mr. Slave at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (sZTYJ)

257 I must say that IDP/ARE is also a semi-useless system given that it bars some people whom have been working for years from completing the licensure process due to the recording requirements for hours. Meanwhile any idiot that gets their time signed off by a supervisor that doesn't care, can cram for an exam with expensive study guides. States would be far better off having an apprenticeship program than allowing NCARB to run an extortion racket that still doesn't guarantee the people being licensed are qualified.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (KCvsd)

258 At a farmers market yesterday.some elderly black vet sees my gun and shakes my hand telling me "carrying a weapon is as American as apple pie." I thank him for his service and he launches into some wacky rant about how he trying to use the VA and his bennies were denied and how he voted for Obama and now he wasn't happy about how he was treated ...blab. blab. As soon as I heard "voted for Obama" I wanted to kick him in the balls. But that would be raaaaacist (5) AND unpatriotic. But I just have no fucking patience.

Posted by: Guido at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (8EKcT)

259 Now explain WHY the value you obtained is a reasonable value.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (d/5qf)

I don't think such value judgements are necessary. One value is as valid as another and anyway can we ever really know anything?

Posted by: Some Smartass Student at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (LUnTP)

260 Well, a question like: Okay, so you did the math and got a certain numerical value for some physical quantity. Now explain WHY the value you obtained is a reasonable value.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (d/5qf)

If they get the math wrong but do a great job on the essay how is that weighted? Could the get an A or a very high B+ getting all the math wrong but knocking it out of the park on all the essays?

(just what you want to talk about, right?)

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (s765P)

261 John Stossel:

The "fiscal cliff" is less frightening than the bankruptcy cliff.

http://tinyurl.com/bmav4d2

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (wwsoB)

262 Considering that in public high schools now you don't even have to have classes in any European history before the 20th century the idiocy rate is appalling. The 16 year old son of a friend of mine thinks English history is boring because he's never had any since it's only an elective in his high school.

I home school. We are currently studying the Middle Ages. My 12 year old had read sections of "The Canterbury Tales" and "The Divine Comedy". If he makes it to college he will know far more than many of the college students but maybe by that time they will completely obviated the need to read any dead white male writers who lived before the 20th century

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (v8RoL)

263 245
Not worried about non-so-cons. They will die off from various sexual diseases and not be a factor in the future.


Well, the whole "fiscal conservative, social liberal" is called a libertarian. And generally speaking, the hard-core libertarians usually (a) grow up and realize that yes, there is more to liberty than simply personal wish fulfillment, it also takes an ordered society and a respect for traditions which got us here in the first place (i.e., drifts to conservatism), or (b) don't grow up, continues to be a self-centered nihilist but still thinks that "someone ought to take care of the poor", which leads to liberalism

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (d/5qf)

264 258: ya don't want a race brotha hata would ya

Posted by: Alex from the hood at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (aPAIU)

265 220 Yay! Socon vs. non-socon fight!

I'm a "small-l" libertarian.

Libertarians and socons practically hate each other.

But we do have one important thing in common.

The Republican Party leadership expects both of us to sit down, shut up, and vote for the RINO.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (sdi6R)

266 Anyone ever have moonshine?

Take a visit to Gatlinburg, Tennessee and have yourself an Old Smokey. It's like a fried twinkie experience, but with a lot more hallucinations.

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:12 PM (+AV7H)

267 Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (x/9BF)

Do not get me started.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:12 PM (bWwMZ)

268 You've obv never spent any time around those in law school.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (GEICT)

No. The ones I met were public high school teachers here in Louisiana. Not exactly the cream of the crop, mind you.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:12 PM (x/9BF)

269 Hiya bobby! is that work hash or a home hash?

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:12 PM (Ai+tZ)

270 My mom used to make buckeyes, and 3 different kinds of truffles. She also made 5 kinds of Christmas cookies.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (ANmol)

OMG, homemade buckeyes from a real native Ohio Mom are the best thing in the entire world.

Possibly even better than a See's Candy Dark Chocolate Bourdeaux. Possibly.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:12 PM (s765P)

271 I'd give my left kidney to be able to shop at HEB
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (JMmQ9)

HEB, same cheap crap as at Walmart but more suitably located.

Posted by: Some HEB Sales Rep at November 25, 2012 11:13 PM (LUnTP)

272 I swear by Allah, please forgive me. I won't make such a mistake again
___
Were I in the Indian government I would make sure those last words get a lot of coverage.

Ajmal Kasab might have believed in Islamism enough to go on a killing spree...but even he realized in the end what he did was wrong...


Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:13 PM (AUeaU)

273 On the education part, my high school actually had a really good history department and my senior year AP European history we started with plague, thing is though only 25-30 students take it a year out of a school of close to 3000.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:14 PM (vGCek)

274 "carrying a weapon is as American as apple pie."

"voted for Obama"

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:14 PM (+AV7H)

275 Just finished the Arena episode of the original Star Trek. So now I finally understand where the Gorn meme comes from.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 11:14 PM (xouud)

276 is that work hash or a home hash?
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:12 PM (Ai+tZ)

Howdy, DC!

Yeah, I'm at home right now.

How is ya?

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:14 PM (LUnTP)

277 "Students come out of school thinking they are the greatest designers of all time..."

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (VLG62)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 11:14 PM (GsoHv)

278
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (s765P)

well, possibly.
if they got the math wrong, and then realize they got the math wrong with an explanation like "my number seems off, I think it ought to be in this range for X reason", then that is a good explanation even with a math error.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:15 PM (d/5qf)

279 The iceberg that sank the Titanic looks suspiciously like Disneyland's Matterhorn. Could it have been artificial? What nefarious perpetrator used it to send the Titanic to the bottom? What was his evil motive?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (kaalw)


It was all due to President Taft's infernal weather device and iceberg steering machine that he uses to protect his evil free-market friends!

Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at November 25, 2012 11:15 PM (sZTYJ)

280 273: my school only offers AP World history, and its for 10th graders (GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR)

Posted by: Alex from the hood at November 25, 2012 11:15 PM (aPAIU)

281 >>>One value is as valid as another and anyway can we ever really know anything?

With enough certainty to assign a grade. If you don't like judging the size of shadows you can take philosophy as a major and you'll discovery the numbers in your life time earnings are shadows. Next question.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 11:15 PM (GE1+K)

282 Just finished the Arena episode of the original Star Trek. So now I finally understand where the Gorn meme comes from.
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 25, 2012 11:14 PM (xouud)

Speaking of which Amazon has the complete Star Trek original series on sale on bluray for $130 bucks and for $110 bucks on standard DVD.

Support your local ewok!

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (LUnTP)

283 Cool, cthulhu is here. Now we can continue our Call of Cthulhu play by post game. Of course, first I'll need some investigators ....

My main man is Cecil Talbot. He cares for his aging mother at the Talbot mansion and uses her fortune to collect antique firearms, pornographic statuary and forbidden texts.

He combines a pencil-thin mustache and the affectation of several well-known silent movie stars.

He is equipped with linen pajamas, and a silk Kimono he wears over the pajamas for additional armor; ladies' cigarettes; a 16th century marine flintlock adorned to resemble a devil penis; and an extra large mint julep. He enjoys throwing parties for his friends. He is also an incurable racist.

Cecil's companions are Wanda and Regina Shackleford, spinster sisters with shared interests in phrenology and seances; Pips Codswallop, the famed war aviator of England who was denied his official ace status and spent months in a sanitarium for insisting his fifth kill was against a giant black bat; Sharon Derriere, the bewitching stag film actress best known for The Virgin's Nightdress and her performance in 1922's The Mermaid and the Naughty Octopus, a film she does not remember appearing in which is so perverse the government has burned every copy it can find; and Chang the Celestial, an inscrutable oriental who harbors a dark secret: he is Mexican and just playing along with the racist white people who think he is Chinese.

And so on ....

/somethingawful

Posted by: Derivative Role Playing Gamer at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (bS6uW)

284 Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.

this is true.

if you meet someone who introduces him/herself as having an Ed.D., run

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (d/5qf)

285 APPLE PIE IS UNAMERICAN JUST LIKE BAPTISTS

Posted by: BLOOMBERG at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (aPAIU)

286
Well I think Bisexual Asian Studies should have its own building. The question is: who goes? The math department or the hockey team? I think the hockey team. Think about it.


Silly question. Correct answer: both of them. /liberal

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (4u2LN)

287
CBD, it's a miracle ...... I remembered that I used the little re-sealable bag from the almond brittle to store ...... bullets (a small number of 9mm odd-ball ones that I picked up by mistake at a local reloading store).

Paso Almonds - 888-549-9126 (hope this is isn't some code of ethics violation around here? I have no connection to the company other than buying a few bags of their product each year, depending on how many times I get to the central coast)

Transitioning seamlessly to another topic ..... Jeepers, I'm too lazy to do it, but go check the flash/preliminary exit poll data re vote shares in the recent election. Romney did very well with the higher-income demo, as well as even with white yutes (I believe he either tied or exceeded all-time GOP voting %s in both demos).

And since MO and IN were mentioned - WTF, people? Behold how f***ed we really are. There aren't a few thousand intelligent voters in those two states, who understand how their feral govt. (incl. the legislative branch) actually works, to vote strategically in these two cases? Who gives a f**k if some candidate says a few bizarre things on issues never to be part of Senate business? In 2012? In 2012? IN 2012?! FFS.

The missing 7 million or whatever, and the voters of MO and IN, to me, share the blame for furthering the degradation and decline of the US. As previously lamented, what I see as essentially a permanent degradation. Unless someone can explain to me how we re-educate 200 million people in common sense, decency, economics, history, logic, self-governance and freedom, international affairs, and sundry little items like not allowing ignorance, envy, or racism to guide you in your duties as a citizen.

"Vote for revenge" .....and "to punish your enemies" (who, 10 years ago, would have believed such churlish un-American idiocy would have been uttered by any public figure in the US, much less the most senior elected one?)



Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (UViC2)

288
Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.
***
I taught some at one point. Not only dumb, but as intellectually incurious a group as I have ever met.

Of course if we approached educating educators rationally pre-HS would be a 2 year degree with a 2 year internship, and HS would be 2 years of teaching, 2 years of the subject you will be teaching.

A Master's degree to teach? Seriously? I have to teach people consistently working in the private sector and the presumption is anyone can do it without special training beyond knowing the subject.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (AUeaU)

289 Every time you pour yourself a drink of water, take a shower or water the yard...
A molecule or two of the Titanic Iceberg and it's victims is in there.
So stick to the booze. Less transmigration.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (BAnPT)

290 I'm a "small-l" libertarian.

Libertarians and socons practically hate each other.

But we do have one important thing in common.

The Republican Party leadership expects both of us to sit down, shut up, and vote for the RINO.

Posted by: rickl at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (sdi6R)


Fusionism anyone?

Posted by: Frank Meyer at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (sZTYJ)

291 crap...."its"

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (BAnPT)

292 Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:11 PM (d/5qf)

I agree with this. I think that having kids and realizing that you can't actually raise your kids in complete isolation is a real strong incentive to want to create at least a minimal set of moral norms so we don't have to have a fight every day about what you should and shouldn't teach to kids.

I personally don't care very much about legislating sexual morality, but I do care that the militant sexual libertines (of all orientations) want to teach my kids about all kinds of sex in school at ridiculously young ages.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (s765P)

293
No comment. I'm speechless.

http://tinyurl.com/bqpk227

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (8cOY0)

294 #277, they are quick cocky for people that couldn't tell you the dimensions of lumber or common building materials. Framing detail? Partition schedule? What's that?

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 11:18 PM (KCvsd)

295 280: I was pretty lucky, we had had AP World, US, and European. I was able to walk into a History minor at college with only needing a couple more courses. The other AP programs though weren't as good.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:18 PM (vGCek)

296 The California props proved people were willing to raise taxes on others. Prop 38 would have raised taxes on everyone but would have put more money into schools quicker than prop 30. They decided to go with prop 30 which raised salex tax for everyone and the highest wage earners. But hey we still kept the death penalty even though we haven't used it in years.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2012 11:18 PM (NzBQO)

297 The iceberg that sank the Titanic looks suspiciously like
Disneyland's Matterhorn. Could it have been artificial? What nefarious
perpetrator used it to send the Titanic to the bottom? What was his evil
motive?


It was all working according to plan until those White Star guys turned up in Lakehurst with matches.

Posted by: Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at November 25, 2012 11:18 PM (pwyhn)

298 Some of the dumbest people I've ever had the displeasure to meet in my entire life were education majors.
************************

Would that have something to do with the fact that most education majors are women?

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (+AV7H)

299 Fusionism anyone?
Posted by: Frank Meyer at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (sZTYJ)

FFUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

SSIIOOOOONNN!!!!!!

HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Super Saiyan Bill Buckley at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (LUnTP)

300 Well great. Got the house half decorated for Christmas, helped MrsCaniac take dinner to my stepdad who broke his leg, helped her clean the pantry out, and my reward? A crappy SNF game and a purity war on the ONT.


No good deed goes unpunished.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (Zd/NW)

301 What is a buckeye?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (v8RoL)

302 289: I haven't done any math (Chemjeff should do it) but i think that there would be a molecule of the victims in every breath of air you breath

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:20 PM (aPAIU)

303 @ 301: A thing that beats wolverines.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:21 PM (vGCek)

304 Libertarians and socons practically hate each other.

***
This isn't your point exactly, but there is little reason this has to be so.

Most goals of both could be advanced if they worked together.

I consider myself to be both a libertarian and social conservative and don't see much conflict between the two.


Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:21 PM (AUeaU)

305 Robert, glad to see you have a night off. How's the workouts coming?

BC, what's new? Been decorating all day, haven't been around the HQ.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:21 PM (Ai+tZ)

306 Howdy all. I had fun today, I took my laptop apart. The cooling fan was making noise. To get to it, you must remove the motherboard, which is the same thing as saying take the machine completely apart.

I t wasn't that hard to do, just tedious dealing with around 50 teeny tiny screws. Of course I dropped several of them on the floor during the reassembly part. I dropped more curse words than screws overall though.

The fan is now all clean and spiffy and just as bitchy as before, so now I have order a new one. On the brighter side, I'll get to do some more cussing, and I'll go ahead and upgrade my memory while I'm at it.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 25, 2012 11:21 PM (ccXZP)

307
The real issue is that most architecture professors couldn't produce a decent set of documents if their life depended upon it, and so they turn out graduates who cannot actually perform in the profession. Lots of screwy theory, but not one practical skill.
I went from architecture school to the CoE, and my first serious project was renovating a sewage treatment plant. At the end of my five year tour, I knew more about building than all of my professors combined.
Students come out of school thinking they are the greatest designers of all time, only to find out they can't do anything they think they can because a. the building code is strict and b. newbies get to do toilet room details and hardware schedules. Big bosses get to be designy guys. Oh well.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:03 PM (VLG62)


I'll get the dynamite...

Posted by: Howard Roark at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (sZTYJ)

308 Now to shave off my eyebrows and grow my hair out for 60 years

Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (aPAIU)

309 Also, regarding the home made food gifts. Time is a much more generous gift than something bought with money.

Now that I'm taking care of my 95 year old father, I see this all the time. The most generous of my relatives are the ones who will visit him, or stay with him so I can get away. The one selfish relative is the one who buys stuff and thinks she's being generous. I'm becoming enough of a bitch that when she calls I manage to work it into the conversation what the others have done.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (ANmol)

310 What is a buckeye?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (v8RoL)

A buckeye is a delicious sphere of peanut butter truffley substance dipped in a delicious chocolate. Here's a picture (I have no idea if this recipe is any good).

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/buckeyes-i/

Done properly it has a taste and texture unlike any other chocolate and peanut butter combo I've ever had.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (s765P)

311 Every time you pour yourself a drink of water, take a shower or water the yard...
A molecule or two of the Titanic Iceberg and it's victims is in there.
So stick to the booze. Less transmigration.
Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 25, 2012 11:17 PM (BAnPT)

That's my new Bookface status update.

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (LUnTP)

312 301 A chocolate and peanut butter confection made by natives of Oiho.

Posted by: Butters at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (NIZHJ)

313 Posted by: non-purist at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (UViC2)

Thanks....although this may be a repeat....the blog software ate my first "thank you."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 11:22 PM (GsoHv)

314 I don't think such value judgements are necessary. One value is as valid as another and anyway can we ever really know anything?

Posted by: Some Smartass Student at November 25, 2012 11:10 PM (LUnTP)

I had a fool (senior in high school) answer a T/F test with a written "possibly." This on a pretest for Confirmation. Little horses-ass thought he was oh so above it all--how could we know anything with certainty, and if God exists.... I told him that he could leave and not come back until the priest said he could be readmitted. Haven't seen the little shit in weeks.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (VLG62)

315 Would that have something to do with the fact that most education majors are women?I denounce myself.
Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM (+AV7H)

I doubt it. Stupidity is equal opportunity.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (x/9BF)

316 >>>Cool, cthulhu is here. Now we can continue our Call of Cthulhu play by
post game. Of course, first I'll need some investigators ....


I've got a sure fire strategy for my disgruntled conservative political foot-soldier.

1. Contact Cultists get materials list.
2. Go to Wallmart
3. Deliver materials to Cultists.
4. Let it Burn!

We are playing in modern times right? If not substitute Five and Dime for Wallmart.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (GE1+K)

317 The fan is now all clean and spiffy and just as bitchy as before, so now
I have order a new one. On the brighter side, I'll get to do some more
cussing, and I'll go ahead and upgrade my memory while I'm at it.



That's pretty impressive. My major technical achievement was replacing a battery in an iPod.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (pwyhn)

318 #304, not preaching or imposing morality on other people is no different than not preaching or imposing IMMORALITY on other people. Hence why libertarians should be able to get along with SoCons.

Preaching and imposing immortality on other people is something the left has excelled at in the past century.

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (KCvsd)

319 I am the lingerie buyer in the Dildo house.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 10:57 PM (GsoHv)


Heh. Best makes-sense-in-context comment of the week.

5 points to House Goldwater.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (XkotV)

320 Would that have something to do with the fact that most education majors are women?
***
I'd say no. I don't think there is much difference in the intellectual ability of men and women - though I think there is a statistically significant level of increased gullibility of the fairer sex.


Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:24 PM (AUeaU)

321 Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:21 PM (Ai+tZ)


Oh, I totally work tonight. Leave in ten minutes.

Workouts...uuuhhhhhh, shit. I haven't run in almost a week on doctor's orders (dumb story). Anyway, still doing what I can. So...doing okay.

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:24 PM (LUnTP)

322 @273, I have a little prejudice about those AP programs, just like I distrusted "college-track" programs when I was in (we were officially "Special Talent Students"! And not allowed in the auto shop, either). Someone is deciding who needs to know a smattering of history. The proles won't need it. Scary.

But I'm glad to hear you had a decent experience out of it. It would be even better to hear how you think that background helped you -- not in further study of academic history, but in other fields, and in, you know, the real world.

In Plague 101, did you read William McNeill's Plagues and Peoples? He has one precept in there I disagree with (I'm sure he's crushed, too), but overall he's one of the best history thinkers of an otherwise lost generation, and one ass-kicking son of a bitch, if I do say so myself. One of the real Chicago Boys.

Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (qaVK+)

323 289: I haven't done any math (Chemjeff should do it) but i think that there would be a molecule of the victims in every breath of air you breath
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:20 PM (aPAIU)


18 grams of water contains 6.023 times ten to the 23rd power water molecules.

There are 28 grams in an ounce.

We have atoms from velociraptors in us.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (bWwMZ)

324 The problem is a good number of libertarians preach immorality (think vodka pundit) and say that marriage is a stupid victorian tradition that we must do away with and go to nothing but interactive porn

Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (aPAIU)

325
BC, what's new? Been decorating all day, haven't been around the HQ.



Nothing much. Personally, my four days off didn't exist. We'd night the eldest had a performance at big time tree lighting ceremony. I'd say over 1000 people there. Thurs was spent at the parents' house. Another tree lighting performance on Friday at a slightly less upscale place. My wife decided that the best time to schedule photos for me, her, our kids, my sis and her kid was 840am on Sat morning at a place 45 minutes away. Worked at church his morning.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (GEICT)

326 Cool, cthulhu is here. Now we can continue our Call of Cthulhu play by
post game. Of course, first I'll need some investigators ....


I have a sword, obviously.

And a rocket launcher. Because I picked it up somewhere.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (hO9ad)

327 We have atoms from velociraptors in us.
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (bWwMZ)

Okay, but how many of them are in an Ohio Buckeye?

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (s765P)

328 235
If you're grading online quizzes, why isn't your software telling you a score?

because I include an essay part to the quizzes.


Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:05 PM (d/5qf)


Seems to me that's your problem right there.

And, BTW, what kind of essays do you need in chemistry? "Detail your emotional reaction to methyl salicyclate -- include examples"?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (kaalw)

329 So, I am confused, like who should I cheer for? The Egyptian military or the Bro's, or the totally uncoordinated opposition? I guess whoever brings the most guns to the "peaceful protest" will carry the day, but I really need some advice about when not to go back to the microwave to make more popcorn! It's too bad that those poor people are so stupid. I thought that the Afgans were worth the effort, because of all of the Apache movies I had seen as a child. I thought that maybe they were a type of noble savage, that just needed some space and a few breaks to get ready for color TV's and stuff..... Now, I just want them to all get into a meele and cut throats and live next to the burn-barrels for the next few years. Orville Redenbacker, forever!!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (DBH1h)

330 Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (VLG62)

Wait... One of the questions was "Does God exist"?

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (x/9BF)

331 We have atoms from velociraptors in us.
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (bWwMZ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejy7CqyWE4U

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (LUnTP)

332 "Most goals of both could be advanced if they worked together."

Prime Minister Cameron, for the loss!

Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (I88Jc)

333 My favorite chemical name/abbreveation is the BARF anion [B[3,5-(CF3)2C6H3]4]−.

There are also compounds named cadaverene and putracine, for obvious reasons.

But for my money nothing smells as bad as CS2, carbon disulfide. It makes fresh yak vomit mixed with diarrhea and poured over moldy jockstraps smell down right pleasant.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)

334 This high school has AP history and it's the same ratio of people in it. However, this kid still isn't getting any British history if he is in AP history.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (v8RoL)

335 323: yes but the math, not just the moles. how many people died, and how much water was in them, and how fast does the water circulate through the planet and is the air that you are breathing atacama dry or amazon wet

Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (aPAIU)

336 301
What is a buckeye?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2012 11:19 PM

It's different from a Maine Surprise ... I think

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 11:28 PM (wwsoB)

337 We have atoms from velociraptors in us.


That's just fuckin cool.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:28 PM (GEICT)

338 Turkey: It's what's for dinner the next 4.62 nights.


My mother sent me home with enough food to feed a small army. I don't know how she does it, she turned one turkey into ten thousand. I hardly had to shop at all this week. Turkey and cranberry sandwich will be amazing.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (NzBQO)

339 The problem is a good number of libertarians preach immorality (think vodka pundit) and say that marriage is a stupid victorian tradition that we must do away with and go to nothing but interactive porn
Posted by: Gotenks at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (aPAIU)


Problem?

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (bWwMZ)

340 So, I am confused, like who should I cheer for? The Egyptian military or the Bro's, or the totally uncoordinated opposition?
***
Remember in the 80s when Reagan sent aid to both Iran and Iraq and they both were exhausted by fighting each other?

That's what we should root for.

My guess is Obamabi will wait until someone is clearly on top, then send them enough aid to finish the job...without feeling any obligation to the US since we decided late...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (AUeaU)

341 "Detail your emotional reaction to methyl salicyclate -- include examples"?
Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (kaalw)

Which acid makes you happiest and why?

Looking at the periodic table of elements, which element is most likely to be a dainty sugarplum?

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (LUnTP)

342 1. Contact Cultists get materials list.
2. Go to Wallmart
3. Deliver materials to Cultists.
4. Let it Burn!

We are playing in modern times right? If not substitute Five and Dime for Wallmart.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 11:23 PM (GE1+K)


Shop smart.

Shop S-Mart.

Posted by: Ash at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (sZTYJ)

343 We have atoms from velociraptors in us.

That explains why I'm hungry.

Posted by: Methos at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (hO9ad)

344
I think Architecture is a scam.

Ball State prides itself in its Architecture program.

The Architecture Building?

1) Has half as many lady's rooms as men's rooms.

2) Is five floors tall. The elevator goes to the fourth floor, you need to take steps to the fifth floor (which has no lady's room).

3) The interior is mostly rough, exterior brick or unfinished concrete with wood grain from the concrete forms. Hell on any clothing should you brush against an interior wall.

4) The unenclosed foyer at the entrance of the building (where you're supposed to hide from the weather while waiting for the bus) is way too large to shelter you from the weather. It's roof is four floors above ground and the worst weather just swirls around inside of it. And it's supported by cantilever concrete beams that are perforated with holes about as big around as basketballs. The pigeons just love to sit in them and shit on the people below.

And then there was the time I saw all of these architecture students walking around the building one day wearing birdhouses as helmets. There was a class assignment to design a birdhouse you could wear over your head.

After that experience I could never take architecture seriously. Or at least anything modern.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tOkJB)

345 Prime Minister Cameron, for the loss!
***
Why go afield?

Bush 43 for the uh...loss.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (AUeaU)

346 Which acid makes you happiest and why?

Looking at the periodic table of elements, which element is most likely to be a dainty sugarplum?
Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:29 PM (LUnTP)


I'm going to take chemistry from you. =)

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (s765P)

347 Wait... One of the questions was "Does God exist"?

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (x/9BF)

No, but apparently that was going to be his position in the class. Which is strictly for kids who want to be Confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church. Kid was just way too sophisticated, to the point of being imbecilic. It is generally assumed that if you wish to be Confirmed, that God is assumed to exist, at a minimum.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (VLG62)

348 >>>Libertarians and socons practically hate each other.

I don't have a problem with Libertarians. I have problems with intellectually inconsistent libertarians. Libertarians that admit law has a purpose to protect us from each other (Crime defined by a natural person suffering an injury to life, liberty or property) yet conveniently turn a blind eye to the right to live of the unborn declaring them summarily and arbitrarily non-persons. Libertarians that resent the concept of government regulation of human relations, yet, when asked about marriage, rather than assert it is not the function of government to recognize, sanction, encourage, or regulate any form of human relationship, they seek to broaden the existing government control of relationships to include new types; without realizing they are setting the stage to allow government control of all types of private relationships.

No I don't have problems with libertarians per se. Just the stupid ones.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (GE1+K)

349 Which acid makes you happiest and why?
___
I know that one!

Hey, who let the Machine Elves in this chat room?

Posted by: Timothy Leary at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (AUeaU)

350 333 that makes me want it

Posted by: Libertarian at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (aPAIU)

351 306
Howdy all. I had fun today, I took my laptop apart. The cooling fan was
making noise. To get to it, you must remove the motherboard, which is
the same thing as saying take the machine completely apart.


I hear ya, currently waiting for my new motherboard to arrive after my old one shit the bed. It's amazing how cheap computer parts become just a few years after they come out, i actually went ahead and got a processor too they were so cheap, $60 for both for a computer only 3 years old.

Posted by: booger at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (HI6wa)

352 The problem is a good number of libertarians preach immorality (think
vodka pundit) and say that marriage is a stupid victorian tradition that
we must do away with and go to nothing but interactive porn


I don't see any problem here.

Posted by: Geordi LaForge at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (hO9ad)

353 We have atoms from velociraptors in us.
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (bWwMZ)

Okay, but how many of them are in an Ohio Buckeye?
Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:26 PM (s765P)

3 oxygen atoms, 6 hydrogen atoms, and 1 carbon atom.

I guessed by dividing the number I quoted by 10 to the 23rd power.

Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:32 PM (bWwMZ)

354 I have come to the conclusion, that most people deep down suck.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 11:32 PM (adaoe)

355 But for my money nothing smells as bad as CS2, carbon disulfide. It makes fresh yak vomit mixed with diarrhea and poured over moldy jockstraps smell down right pleasant.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)


Chalcogens aren't nearly as bad as Pnictogens.

Ever smelt trimethyl phosphine or pyradine?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 11:32 PM (sZTYJ)

356 @263-
That cat chemjeff is one smart mother/
Shut yo mouth
I'm just talking 'bout chemjeff

Ya nailed it sir. Do you by chance have a newsletter? Or maybe even a blog?

Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 11:32 PM (cWpCn)

357 yet conveniently turn a blind eye to the right to live of the unborn declaring them summarily and arbitrarily non-persons.

Yeah, that's pretty bad. At one point we'll look at that very similarly to how we now view the "libertarian" argument for slavery.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:33 PM (AUeaU)

358 @ 322

No we didn't get to read it, I'll have to check it it. With the plauge we mostly discussed how it related to the Renascence on the demographic make up of Europe.

As far as real world applications, probably thinking about how different things can relate to each other and cause and effects you learn from history, other then that, a writing style that no one uses out side of history and fact no way related to my major (Computer Animation) but I really like history and learned a lot so I'm glad I took them.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:33 PM (vGCek)

359 Cecil's companions are Wanda and Regina Shackleford,
spinster sisters with shared interests in phrenology and seances; Pips
Codswallop, the famed war aviator of England who was denied his official
ace status and spent months in a sanitarium for insisting his fifth
kill was against a giant black bat; Sharon Derriere, the bewitching stag
film actress best known for The Virgin's Nightdress and her performance
in 1922's The Mermaid and the Naughty Octopus, a film she does not
remember appearing in which is so perverse the government has burned
every copy it can find; and Chang the Celestial, an inscrutable oriental
who harbors a dark secret: he is Mexican and just playing along with
the racist white people who think he is Chinese.



And so on ....



/somethingawful

Posted by: Derivative Role Playing Gamer at November 25, 2012 11:16 PM (bS6uW)


I'll start by driving the Shacklefords insane and consuming Sharon.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:33 PM (kaalw)

360 Now explain WHY the value you obtained is a reasonable value.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:08 PM (d/5qf)


That's what I liked about being a mechanical engineer: if you were certain you'd done all the analysis correctly and yet the numeric answer seemed wither too small or too large you just multiplied or divided by 32 and voila- correct answer!

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 11:34 PM (paPv4)

361 Doesn't Jill Biden have an Ed.D and Joe just plain 'ol ED?

Posted by: CMU VET at November 25, 2012 11:34 PM (dPSpR)

362 After that experience I could never take architecture seriously. Or at least anything modern.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tOkJB)

That's pretty much the level of bullshit one has to pass through to get an architecture degree these days. Knowing everything there is to know about Bauhaus counts, but being able to show how to build a proper door frame and write the specs to have it installed does not.

Posted by: tcn at November 25, 2012 11:34 PM (VLG62)

363 The one that was synthesized from saint anthonys fire

Posted by: 349 at November 25, 2012 11:34 PM (aPAIU)

364 I don't see any problem here.


Posted by: Geordi LaForge at November 25, 2012 11:31 PM (hO9ad)***
I saw Levar Burton on TV arguing with Bill O'Reilly that funding for PBS was beside the point.Of course when the question is, "Should the government fund a TV channel?" you really have to reach to claim that said argument is beside the point.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 25, 2012 11:35 PM (AUeaU)

365 Immorality cannot exist without morality. It's not a philosophy or a value system, it's just transgression for the sake of transgression.

Libertarians fall into the same trap that liberals do, of worshipping the transgressive.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 25, 2012 11:35 PM (tklPB)

366 But for my money nothing smells as bad as CS2, carbon disulfide. It makes fresh yak vomit mixed with diarrhea and poured over moldy jockstraps smell down right pleasant.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)


I don't know about CS2 but butyric acid is like the distilled essence of vomit and diarrhea. Which of course makes it perfect for pranks and tomfoolery.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (XkotV)

367 Why 32

Posted by: 360 at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (aPAIU)

368 @ 334
How do they not teach anything about the British in a world history class? Hell we talked about them in my East Asian class two years ago. Those dudes got around.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (vGCek)

369 After that experience I could never take architecture seriously. Or at least anything modern.
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tOkJB)

Not all architecture is a scam. Notre Dame actually has a good architecture program.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (s765P)

370 Part of the reason that the elite believe that they possess universal knowledge is that they equate intellect with intelligence.

There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.” ― George Orwell


Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (wwsoB)

371 Would that have something to do with the fact that most education majors are women?

I denounce myself.


It would have more to do with the fact that they're education majors.

The degree should be eliminated.

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (HwgHt)

372 BC, busy weekend. Sounds fun though. Gonna take Princess to see Santa next weekend hopefully.

Robert, doctors are dumb. If they tell me don't run for 4 weeks, I cut it in half. There's plenty of workouts you can do without running, so if you want to keep getting ripped, I'll be happy to send one.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (Ai+tZ)

373 "...don't have a lot of great critical thinking skills going into college."

Our understanding of "critical thinking" and theirs are not the same. I had a discussion along these lines with a former shipmate who is now a teacher (in Colorado). His version of "critical thinking" involves "recognizing the need for social justice" and "respect for the environment". And he was proud of teaching this to middle schoolers.

Posted by: Country Singer at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (meVGV)

374 I'm out!
Good night ONT!

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (LUnTP)

375 Not all architecture is a scam. Notre Dame actually has a good architecture program.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM

So does Vandelay University

Posted by: George Costanza at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (wwsoB)

376 Anybody know who won the late game? I don't watch NBC, so I don't even know who is playing.

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (I2LwF)

377 @273, I have a little prejudice about those AP programs, just like I distrusted "college-track" programs when I was in (we were officially "Special Talent Students"! And not allowed in the auto shop, either). Someone is deciding who needs to know a smattering of history. The proles won't need it. Scary.

But I'm glad to hear you had a decent experience out of it. It would be even better to hear how you think that background helped you -- not in further study of academic history, but in other fields, and in, you know, the real world.

In Plague 101, did you read William McNeill's Plagues and Peoples? He has one precept in there I disagree with (I'm sure he's crushed, too), but overall he's one of the best history thinkers of an otherwise lost generation, and one ass-kicking son of a bitch, if I do say so myself. One of the real Chicago Boys.

Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 11:25 PM (qaVK+)


I took English and various science AP tests back in the day. I had excellent Calculus and Physics teachers, so I was fine for all the lower division math and physics classes I took in college. Since I went to a private school the decade before last, my English scores were decent as well... of course I was always a heavy reader (mostly Sci-Fi).

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 11:38 PM (sZTYJ)

378 But for my money nothing smells as bad as CS2, carbon disulfide. It makes fresh yak vomit mixed with diarrhea and poured over moldy jockstraps smell down right pleasant.Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)
I don't know what's in it, but raw crude oil smells awful.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:38 PM (x/9BF)

379 373: I WANT TO FUCKING MURDER HIM

Posted by: WOW DID I JUST WRITE THAT at November 25, 2012 11:38 PM (aPAIU)

380 @ 376
Giants killed them.

Posted by: Ed Wood VS Godzilla at November 25, 2012 11:38 PM (vGCek)

381 Looking at the periodic table of elements, which element is most likely to be a dainty sugarplum?

actually, one of my extra credit questions on the final exam used to be along the lines of "suppose sodium, chlorine and neon were characters in a reality TV show in which they were roommates. describe the script of such a show - PG rated!". it was not worth many points, it was a way to enjoy the end of the semester actually. I got some fairly interesting answers too... students will tend to anthropomorphize sodium as male and chlorine as female

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:39 PM (d/5qf)

382 My grandma used to make brownies using a full can of Hershey's syrup. After baking and cooling she would put them in the freezer. Talk about heaven I miss that woman. I credit all the women on my mom's side and my dad's beloved nanny for teaching me how to cook and bake.

Posted by: mpfs at November 25, 2012 11:39 PM (Mkhiu)

383 Alright, I'm out.


Truman, I left a question for younway upthread.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 25, 2012 11:39 PM (GEICT)

384 Why 32
Posted by: 360 at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (aPAIU)

Gravitational constant- conversion factor between pounds mass and pounds weight.

If 32 doesn't work, try 144.

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 11:40 PM (paPv4)

385 3 oxygen atoms, 6 hydrogen atoms, and 1 carbon atom.

I guessed by dividing the number I quoted by 10 to the 23rd power.
Posted by: eman at November 25, 2012 11:32 PM (bWwMZ)

I love you that there was a real answer to that question.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:40 PM (s765P)

386 384: thats way above my pay scale

Posted by: WOW DID I JUST WRITE THAT at November 25, 2012 11:40 PM (aPAIU)

387 So does Vandelay University

Posted by: George Costanza at November 25, 2012 11:37 PM (wwsoB)

neat, I dont' know anything about Vendelay. I'll have to do some interwebs searching.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:42 PM (s765P)

388 The skills I've seen most lacking in supposedly brilliant people are investigative, cognizance, and diagnostic

Best example, the worshipful admiration of Obullshit by the elite, especially David Brooks

But they can string a lot of big words together

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 11:42 PM (wwsoB)

389 K, i have enough posts, goodbye for now

Posted by: Goodbye yal from alex the sockpuppeteer at November 25, 2012 11:42 PM (aPAIU)

390 I roomed with two architecture students during college, and maintain a friendship with one of them to this day. The problem with architecture is the same with fashion, the wack-job artistes that want to show off how visionary they are at the expense of function and taste.

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM (HwgHt)

391 OK, I'm out

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 25, 2012 11:44 PM (JMmQ9)

392 If they're so smart how come when they're in charge we don't all get rich?

Posted by: DaveA at November 25, 2012 11:44 PM (Xefrb)

393 Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)

Try caproic acid. It's also called hexanoic acid, but either way it stinks beyond belief.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (GsoHv)

394 369
After that experience I could never take architecture seriously. Or at least anything modern.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:30 PM (tOkJB)



Not all architecture is a scam. Notre Dame actually has a good architecture program.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (s765P)


I sure as hell hope University of Oregon has a good program, 'cause my goddaughter's in it. And it's pricey.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (kaalw)

395
My girlfriend Emily Cockinlocker discovered the Maetenlock Particle.

Posted by: Zombie Johnny Carson at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (1sKK2)

396 okay, time for me to go to bed too.
classes start up again tomorrow, ugh

good night

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (d/5qf)

397
363 The one that was synthesized from saint anthonys fire

Posted by: 349 at November 25, 2012 11:34 PM (aPAIU)


I saw what you did there.

Posted by: Zombie Albert Hoffman at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (tOkJB)

398 yeah there's a ton of nasty smelling shit

try "cadaverene" or "putrescine"

you can guess what they smell like

Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (d/5qf)

399 Ask me tomorrow BCock, I will be happy to answer you then!

I'm not really here-here, just in and out sorta

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (I2LwF)

400 The problem with architecture is the same with fashion, the wack-job artistes that want to show off how visionary they are at the expense of function and taste.
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM (HwgHt)

I understand thatfashions are involved, but how much can you really deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's not going to collapse and kill people.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (x/9BF)

401 ...students will tend to anthropomorphize sodium as male and chlorine as female... under the neon moon?

Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 11:47 PM (M7Cfv)

402 Pain can clear the Lefty mind of silly ideas.

Not according to the anecdotal tales of self-denouncers getting off the train for the walk to the Siberian lumber camps or Great Leapers.

Posted by: DaveA at November 25, 2012 11:47 PM (Xefrb)

403 >>>If they're so smart how come when they're in charge we don't all get rich?

You act as though that is their goal when they are in charge.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 25, 2012 11:47 PM (GE1+K)

404 @361, "Heh." The initials of degrees change over the decades. By an accident of this history, in 1976 I received a BA in one subject and an AB in another. I mention 1976 because of all the ABBA jokes I had to suffer.

Anyway, in those days at certain schools, teachers did not receive the current Bachelor of Science in Education, BSEd, but a B.Ed. It was left over from the days when such schools were Normal Schools with two-year degrees, oddly, turning out some noteworthy teachers. That was before "pedagogy" and the Ed.D. Administrators around here all well - PhEd.

That's right, a Bed degree. Sadly, they weren't any smarter or quicker to learn there than anywhere else.

Mike/Moose, I'd like to give you a chance to take back that "shadows" crack. The philosophy student is not the one who says "How do we really know anything?" He is the one who can answer that question. As far as measuring shadows goes, I majored in philosophy, measured some exquisite ones, and retired at age 50 on my investments.


Posted by: comatus at November 25, 2012 11:49 PM (qaVK+)

405 "301 What is a buckeye?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

It is a confection that looks like an Ohio nut.
Sweetened peanut butter ball dipped in a layer of chocolate.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 25, 2012 11:50 PM (ANmol)

406 I roomed with two architecture students during college, and maintain a friendship with one of them to this day. The problem with architecture is the same with fashion, the wack-job artistes that want to show off how visionary they are at the expense of function and taste.
Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM (HwgHt)

This.

James Howard Kunstler has some good critique of modern architecture especially in his eyesore of the month column. (he's totally wacky on other stuff).

Here's one where he talks about the problem with architects:

"But the long-term life of buildings is not a concern for an architectural establishment engrossed in egotistical stunts. And they are fully supported in that endeavor by an art establishment lost in the greater wilderness of asthetic narcissism."

http://www.kunstler.com/eyesore_201210.html

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:50 PM (s765P)

407
I understand thatfashions are involved, but how much can you really
deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's
not going to collapse and kill people.


Well, one of the issues is that modern materials and engineering practices allow for much more complicated designs than in the past.

The modern skyscraper would not be possible with just wood, brick and mortar. You need high quality steel, and an array of technological advances to build it and maintain activity in it.

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:51 PM (HwgHt)

408 "...students majoring in education scored lower on both the verbal and math portions of the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) than students majoring in any other subject. Only 7 percent of high school seniors with SAT scores in the top 20 percent, and 13 percent in the next quintile, chose to major in education. At the other end of the academic spectrum, more than half of those with SAT scores in the lowest 20 percent chose education as a major. Eighty-five percent of high SAT scoring students who actually become teachers leave after a brief career.

Education majors remain at the bottom of the academic barrel after four years of college. The National Institute of Education conducted a study of student performance on examinations (LSAT, GMAT and GRE) to gain entrance to graduate schools. Of twenty-five different undergraduate study areas, students whose undergraduate major was education scored at the bottom or at best second from the bottom."

Dr. Thomas Sowell, "Inside American Education."

Posted by: Icedog at November 25, 2012 11:51 PM (PTS+l)

409 The problems with you socons is your self righteous smugness. You would rather to revel in the purity of defeat than impurity of winning. Abortion is a dead issue, only socons care about it. You lost on this issue deal with it.
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 11:50 PM (g7C10)

Self righteous smugness? Well, if thatis that not the pot calling the kettle black.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 25, 2012 11:52 PM (adaoe)

410 My mother-in-law made the awesomest buckeyes every Christmas. She can't make them anymore because she's gone home to Jesus (4 years ago). I should learn to make them.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 25, 2012 11:53 PM (DoZD+)

411 400
The problem with architecture is the same with fashion, the wack-job
artistes that want to show off how visionary they are at the expense of
function and taste.

Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM (HwgHt)



I understand thatfashions are involved, but how much can you really
deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's
not going to collapse and kill people.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (x/9BF)


My experience with a local architecture firm was that they dealt with "big picture" items and had a local engineering firm prep blueprints. As an example, there are a ton of tilt-up buildings in Silicon Valley.....if they have little square accents of tile, they're likely designed by this architect. All the "behind the scenes" elements such as roof design were done by engineers (you can't typically see the roof of a tilt-up except by air -- the sides of the walls are a few feet higher). They sent people out to test the spray-on texture and verify the paint color and such.....but not inspect the glu-lams, or check the rebar.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:54 PM (kaalw)

412 249 but they are a pain in the ass to grade, I have to wade through tons of dreck in order to get something that passes for 100% correct
Posted by: chemjeff at November 25, 2012 11:09 PM (d/5qf)
~~~~~

Do what I do and tell them to do so in one or two sentences. Grade that way and it will cut down on the trash.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:55 PM (RXQ2T)

413 "Abortion is a dead issue..."

I see what you did...er, without feeling.


Posted by: derit at November 25, 2012 11:55 PM (I88Jc)

414 390
I roomed with two architecture students during college, and maintain a
friendship with one of them to this day. The problem with architecture
is the same with fashion, the wack-job artistes that want to show off how visionary they are at the expense of function and taste.


Posted by: Alex at November 25, 2012 11:43 PM

That's what I saw with all those design submissions for the new World Trade Center.

OK, something for the artistes in SoHo to wack off to, but does it work? Can it withstand hurricane force winds without swaying like a metronome? Can it hold the glass in or will it shower lower the folks in Lower Manhattan with flying shards?

Most of all, will it hold up long enough to evacuate the occupants the next time some moderate peace loving muslims decide to land a plane on the 90th floor?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 25, 2012 11:55 PM (wwsoB)

415 Actually... Abortion is a winning issue. You tell people it's okay to suck a human being out of a woman, scramble its brains, and throw it in the trash. Go ahead, people love that shit.

Posted by: Truman North at November 25, 2012 11:55 PM (I2LwF)

416
384 Why 32
Posted by: 360 at November 25, 2012 11:36 PM (aPAIU)

Gravitational constant- conversion factor between pounds mass and pounds weight.

If 32 doesn't work, try 144.

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 11:40 PM (paPv4)


The conversion factor is 32.147, from pounds (weight) to slugs (mass)

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:56 PM (tOkJB)

417 I understand thatfashions are involved, but how much can you really deviate from the standard? If Vera Wang designs a crappy ball gown it's not going to collapse and kill people.
Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:46 PM (x/9BF)

Secundus, see my link from 407. there's a great picture illustrating the egomania that rules architecture today.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:56 PM (s765P)

418 Ok, time to hit the rack.

Sleep well, Horde.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 25, 2012 11:58 PM (Ai+tZ)

419 The conversion factor is 32.147, from pounds (weight) to slugs (mass)
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 25, 2012 11:56 PM (tOkJB)

Yeah- what he said. No where'd the rest of that bourbon get to?

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 25, 2012 11:58 PM (paPv4)

420 Tell women to carry a rapists kid is a winning issue. We did and lost Senate seats because of that mindset. Understand this, no one cares about abortion! The Left has won oin this issue. Get over it and move on!
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 11:57 PM (g7C10)

You have quite a straw collection there going for you.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 25, 2012 11:59 PM (s765P)

421 Actually, true so-cons are the ones who realize that none are righteous. No, not one. But they continue to try to do their best to work towards that goal.
Does it not bother you in the least that upwards of 50M unborn babies have been murdered in their mothers wombs since Roe v. Wade?

Posted by: In Cognito at November 25, 2012 11:59 PM (6Zy+s)

422 I just read that article in the sidebar by Dr. Peter Weiss and was wondering: Is it possible to get a copy of the currently-written Obamacare regulations? I know I can find the bill at congress.gov, but I'd like to do a ctrl+f through the reg's to verify what he's claiming.

Posted by: Helga at November 25, 2012 11:59 PM (6+c2Y)

423 Ether-You sound pretty self righteouslly smug to me and yet you aren't a socon.

I think you may be a liberal troll trying to sow discord or a sock.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2012 12:00 AM (v8RoL)

424 Joy, the Ether-Bunny has arrived.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 26, 2012 12:01 AM (xKC/c)

425 361 ---- "Doesn't Jill Biden have an Ed.D..."
Posted by: CMU VET at November 25, 2012 11:34 PM (dPSpR)

Yup. As soon as I saw that she insists on being called "DR. Jill Biden," I figured her doctorate had to be in some dipshit pseudo-discipline. The sillier the degree, the more pompous the fool who holds it.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 26, 2012 12:01 AM (C8mVl)

426 I sure as hell hope University of Oregon has a good program, 'cause my goddaughter's in it. And it's pricey.


Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM

Tell us what she looks like so we can wave to her in the next "Occupy Portland" camp because she can't pay her student loans and she doesn't want to work for an evil developer

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:02 AM (wwsoB)

427
That methyl mercaptan stuff really stinks, really strong, like shit squared. Whatever it's made of.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 26, 2012 12:02 AM (tOkJB)

428 421 @ 417 Truman North
Tell women to carry a rapists kid is a winning issue. We did and lost Senate seats because of that mindset. Understand this, no one cares about abortion! The Left has won oin this issue. Get over it and move on!
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 11:57 PM (g7C10)


No, you are factually incorrect about this. There are more people who are pro life than pro death. This is simply true. Quoting you any data is pointless.

Akin and Mourdoch are idiot douchebags who fucked the country for their personal gratification. They fucked up, we suffer.

If the MFM has beaten you on this one, you can be sure your pet issue will be the next one they tackle.

Posted by: Truman North at November 26, 2012 12:03 AM (I2LwF)

429 Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:54 PM (kaalw)


To me a good architect is primarily concerned with function, aesthetics, and knows enough engineering to get 90% of the way there before bringing in any specialists for the tricky parts.


Posted by: Alex at November 26, 2012 12:03 AM (HwgHt)

430 413 @ 410 lou's a mean girSocons have caused nothing but trouble for the GOP. I can't wait when Santorum gets the nomination in 2016 and the GOP goes down to a 45 state loss. That is what it will take to remove the Socon cancer from the GOP.t
Posted by: Ether at November 25, 2012 11:54 PM (g7C10)

Well at least we stand for something, with conviction. Good luck with democrat/communism lite!
You don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
I voted Romney, shame on me!
Moderates ran and lost, lets keep running moderates/ democrats
No more libs/moderates/washington as usual

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:03 AM (adaoe)

431 Humans have no rights when inside another person, got it.


Good night.

Posted by: Truman North at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (I2LwF)

432 Esther, thank you for your concern

Now go stand in the fast lane of the freeway

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (wwsoB)

433 393 Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)

Try caproic acid. It's also called hexanoic acid, but either way it stinks beyond belief.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sdildo at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM (GsoHv)

~~~~~

Yeah the C4-C8 carboxylic acids smell like vomit dipped ass.
Used to love giving those out as unknowns in graduate school to the ones constantly whining about points.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (RXQ2T)

434 Humans have no rights when inside another person, got it.





Good night.


Well fuck.

Posted by: Men everywhere at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (HwgHt)

435 My mother married a wastewater treatment chemist when I was 18. He was an extremely logical and pragmatic man. My elementary school aged sister used to come to the dinner table with incredibly idiotic 'scientific' statements, usually about green stuff. My new step-dad, with his eyebrows almost flying off his head would ask, "Where did you hear that?" and the answer would invariably be, "On the bus." That became a catchphrase at our house for any 'fact' presented without logical or data backup. Most liberals seem to get all their economic, foreign policy, etc., etc., info 'on the bus.'

God bless that man for pulling my idealistic, mush-brained teen self from the liberal abyss just in time. It kinda hurt, though: he wasn't gentle. He's why I'm an organic chem type myself. But not wastewater treatment. Yuck. I wasn't all that fond of take your daughter to work day.

Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (g9Bky)

436 I see Hector/El Gordo/Kilgore Trout has returned to heckle us.

Posted by: Methos at November 26, 2012 12:05 AM (hO9ad)

437 Ah I see hector/snoopy (g7C10) has joined us again.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:06 AM (XkotV)

438 I haven't actually given my opinion on soc con issues. I think you're a troll because you're a rude jerk.

Good night

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 26, 2012 12:06 AM (v8RoL)

439 It's too late at night to do a search, but wasn't there a 2,000 ft plus skyscraper in Dubai or Qatar that can't be occupied above the halfway point because the swaying is so bad?


Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:06 AM (wwsoB)

440 >>>I'd like to give you a chance to take back that "shadows" crack.

I won't. The study of Philosophy, as such, is what has deluded most of man to think that structured society is not only possible, but preferable, so I consider it in general alongside of Political Science when I think of thoughts about the subject. As a matter of practical application I consider it very poorly. If you did very well with Philosophy as your primary area of study, good for you. I would say that the average BA in Philosophy is in for a rude awakening at graduation. And if a philosophy student taking chemistry (which would seem to suggest a general ed class, also meaning usually done in the first two years) can actually give a decent answer to the question as to whether we can really know anything (one would say there certainly is no definitive and final answer on that subject) I would be very surprised. Moreover success in investment, doesn't require any special knowledge about philosophy. To the extent that you have been successful can likely be better attributed to you as a person, and your abilities, rather than any time you might have spent pondering the nature of metaphysics while earning a degree.

So no. My dim view endures. And I think the modern philosophy department at the university level has but two goals. Producing Doctorate candidates from the talented and like minded, and leftist foot soldiers from the duffers. I wonder how many occupiers called themselves philosophers as that was the focus of their undergraduate degree.



Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:07 AM (GE1+K)

441 424 elizabethe
Does Todd Akin ring a bell?
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:01 AM (g7C10)

I'm pretty sure FenelonSpoke is right, but, her e goes I don't know if you noticed but Todd Akin 1. admitted he was wrong and shouldn't have said what he said and 2. was denounced by every mainstream social conservative establishment and defunded by the Republican party.

2. No mainstream socon is a voting purist. Long ago the pro-life groups agreed that the best good is done fighting for incrementalist restrictions on abortion and also on changing the culture so that fewer women would choose to have abortions.

Now go away.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:07 AM (s765P)

442 Okay govt. That's it. No more imposing your values on society. I want all those murder laws off the books right now. And all those stealing laws, get rid of em. And if someone wants to beat this Ether person senseless (oops, someone beat em to it), hey, not my problem.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 26, 2012 12:09 AM (HEWhR)

443 Good night.

Well fuck.
Posted by: Men everywhere at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (HwgHt)

LOL!

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:10 AM (s765P)

444 426
I just read that article in the sidebar by Dr. Peter Weiss and was
wondering: Is it possible to get a copy of the currently-written
Obamacare regulations? I know I can find the bill at congress.gov, but
I'd like to do a ctrl+f through the reg's to verify what he's claiming.

Posted by: Helga at November 25, 2012 11:59 PM (6+c2Y)


The law, itself, is 2700 pages. Most of it is outline, calling for regulations to be issued by everyone from the IRS to the HHS to various states in order to make it actually function. Since Every Single Regulation is going to gore someone's ox, they're all being contested vociferously by every "special interest" group imaginable (sample LGBT concern: is sexual reassignment mental health counseling for the underage covered?) and every voting bloc (conservatives: are we really supposed to pay for this BS?). Accordingly, that 2700 pages of law has blossomed into easily 500,000 catfights, all being performed simultaneously, and all at various stages of being LATE -- because it was all supposed to fall into place like a key turning in a lock.

There is no definitive list of regs, and there won't be until the dust has settled. In the meantime, we have YEARS of clusterfuck coming in like a tidal wave.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:10 AM (kaalw)

445 Ah I see hector/snoopy (g7C10) has joined us again.

He can call himself anything he likes, after tonight I'm just going to cal him the Ether-Bunny: (Possibly NSFW) http://scoamf.us/3Z

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 26, 2012 12:10 AM (xKC/c)

446 I think
the link
hints pink

http://thechive.com/2012/11/09/i-like-girls-because-squishy-48-photos/

Prolly NSFW

Posted by: Boomer Redneque says Let. It. All. Burn. The. Fuck. Down. at November 26, 2012 12:10 AM (eQnzo)

447 340 So, I am confused, like who should I cheer for? The Egyptian military or the Bro's, or the totally uncoordinated opposition?

~~~~~~

All of the above. Muzzies killing muzzies works for me. Feed both sides ammo and scream "Allah Akbar". Hell has enough room for them.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 12:11 AM (RXQ2T)

448 440
@ 427 FenelonSpoke
Anyone who doesn't agree with the Socon group
think is a troll. I remember when this blog was not Socon centric a few
years back. Now it is bible thumping central.


Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM

Yeh, that's why we quote Leviticus when we slobber over cheerleader boobehs, reference porn slang, and hit people like you with a Maine Surprise

Goeth forth to thy house and fetch thy fuckin' shine box

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:11 AM (wwsoB)

449 >>>Humans have no rights when inside another person, got it.


No I don't. And won't get that. Because I cannot answer as to why any human has any rights, yet they have no rights. The question of law as a arbitrary arbiter, or a code that tries to accomplish justice is paramount to humanity. If it is the former, it does not deserve my allegiance, fealty, or respect.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (GE1+K)

450 Socons are just another form of the Left. You are Fascists and seek to create a police state.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:08 AM (g7C10)


Weren't you last going to reflect on your Catholic beliefs - or did that mood pass?

And since we're Fascists and all, you won't mind if we censor you right? Cuz it's our nature and all.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (XkotV)

451 "But you still want to bully non Socons into silence."

Bullying...words? Now who sounds progressive?

Posted by: derit at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (I88Jc)

452
Ah I see hector/snoopy (g7C10) has joined us again.





I thought the languageseemed familiar.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM (DoZD+)

453 Hey guys
How about them packers?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:14 AM (U3OzJ)

454 454
@ 449 elizabethe
Your cause has lost. But you still want to bully non Socons into silence. Typical of the Fascist scums you really are..


Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:10 AM

You sound like one of Ponytail McBikeseat's apostles

I wonder why that is

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:14 AM (wwsoB)

455 wow, it is exceedingly difficult to not get into an argument with a troll who calls you out directly!

Let's talk more about chocolate please!

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:14 AM (s765P)

456 You sound like one of Ponytail McBikeseat's apostles

I wonder why that is

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:14 AM (wwsoB)

Who is ponytail mcBikeseat?

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:15 AM (s765P)

457 >>>Ahh the abortion is murder argument. You can't compare an alive human to
some cell in a woman's body. It's intellectually dishonest and makes
you look like a loon.

It's only intellectually "dishonest" if the person speaking doesn't believe the unborn are persons. You are flying fast and loose with the English language on that one.

Proclaiming someone to look like a loon is a weak logical argument.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:15 AM (GE1+K)

458 444 @ 463 lou's a mean girlYou stand for Big Government and defeat. Ideologically, you are not far off from the Democrats.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:05 AM (g7C10)

Yep , thats it. You got me.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:15 AM (adaoe)

459 464
@ 458 kbdabear

You are hypocrites. I love when Socons get busted
with drugs and porn. Social Conservatives is just an excuse to control
society. It's American Fascism.


Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM

You mad bro?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:15 AM (wwsoB)

460 Snoopy/Ether, either converse with the other commenters and stop with the insults or you will get trollbusted like a troll.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (XkotV)

461 I need to vent. I don't have anyone to rage at, and my wife would probably freak if she knew I was posting this but I just . . . Need to vent.

My wife's two-year old cousin died tonight. His wretched excuse for a mother went to wake him up from a nap and couldn't. Paramedics couldn't revive him. Wretch has been shacked up with a married man . . . This skeevy, long-haired Paultard, drug-dealing jackass. Best thing this idiot has ever done in his life is work at fast food places but Wretch thinks he's "oh-so-wise" because he's in the know and knows how the man is keeping him down. He'd be laughable if not so pathetic.

We have it on pretty good word that both of them were selling and using meth. Wretch was still breastfeeding, then using her WIC money to buy food for the two of them.

My wife's aunt knows this. Has been trying to get her grandson away. Wretch has been using him as a pawn, believing that everyone is against her and her man. CPS has been involved . . . But dragging their feet. We have reports of the meth use/breast feeding, they were doing nothing until court date in a couple of weeks. Moot point now. Cops know this guy is scum. Have told the aunt so. But they were holding off, trying to catch bigger fish, his source, or something. And now a child I very much looked at as a nephew is just . . . Gone. I feel both numb and furious at the same time. This is government, for you people. This is what government does. And no one at either the police department or CPS will be held accountable for this.

And the absolute worst part. The thing that just burns me up . . . I was going to go get him. Early September when we found out she was shacking up with this guy, we knew she was at work and he was at work, and somebody was watching him for them. I was going to go to their trailer with his grandma and I was going to take him away. Lie as needed, bluff, even use force if necessary. So help me I didn't do it. I was afraid of being arrested and the consequences that might entail and I didn't do it. I'm a coward and a child is dead. Damn it.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu)

462 You know, if I wasn't so d*mn lazy I would go about founding the "First Church of Secular Hedonism (Atheist)". Define a credo and a 'moral code', write scriptures, recruit a clergy, solicit donations and build a cathedral somewhere appropriate, like Las Vegas.

Then I would mercilessly hound the ACLU for NOT counter-suing groups that sue to remove religious symbols from public display because those groups are petitioning the government to act "respecting an establishment of religion" ie MY home-brewed religion.

I think it would be fun- maybe something for retirement if I live that long...

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (paPv4)

463 @467...Elizabete..... my wit shires chocolate in the freezers (among other places) but I am on to her.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (PALjS)

464 Who is ponytail mcBikeseat?

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:15 AM

The cult leader of Diminutive Verdant Pigksins

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (wwsoB)

465
Who is ponytail mcBikeseat?




Andrew Sullivan.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (DoZD+)

466 Great
A troll

Hi troll. ))))waves(((((

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (hGW9h)

467 Ether was going by the name of Snoopy before. I believethey've been pinpointed as a troll.

Posted by: buzzion at November 26, 2012 12:18 AM (GULKT)

468 So anyone got a good Thanksgiving story? Any awkward moments? I got a lot of when are you getting married questions.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 26, 2012 12:18 AM (NzBQO)

469 445 Ah I see hector/snoopy (g7C10) has joined us again.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:06 AM (XkotV)



Now, teh stoopid rings a bell.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 26, 2012 12:18 AM (Pw/dS)

470 Not drunk typing on kindle. Wife hides chocolate. In the freezers.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:18 AM (PALjS)

471 >>>You are hypocrites. I love when Socons get busted

with drugs and porn.


Everyone's a hypocrite. The only people the media want's to highlight as such are those who speak for morality and virtue. Being happy that someone was exposed as a hypocrite is like being happy water was proclaimed wet.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (GE1+K)

472 cthulhu: So are doctors the only non-bureaucrats who have any access to any proposed regulations? We keep hearing about new Outrageously Outrages regulations every day; Have they sent out preliminary regulations to doctors, or is it just more leaks?

Posted by: Helga at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (6+c2Y)

473 In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be mocked.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (g7C10)


Not being a dick isn't a Socon thing. And isn't a new rule either.

Meanwhile the TB3K hungers.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (XkotV)

474 You are hypocrites. I love when Socons get busted with drugs and porn. Social Conservatives is just an excuse to control society. It's American Fascism.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM (g7C10)

I know because every evil socon gets busted fot that, every single one!!

But obama had a plan to change the drone law if he lost the election so Romney would have been limited in its use, butobama won, so, yeah, he decided against that. So theres that, for facism.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (adaoe)

475 Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu)

I am so sorry. My heart is breaking for you. Many prayers for you and your family.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (s765P)

476 355 But for my money nothing smells as bad as CS2, carbon disulfide. It makes fresh yak vomit mixed with diarrhea and poured over moldy jockstraps smell down right pleasant.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 25, 2012 11:27 PM (RXQ2T)

Chalcogens aren't nearly as bad as Pnictogens.

Ever smelt trimethyl phosphine or pyradine?
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 25, 2012 11:32 PM (sZTYJ)

~~~

Used to use a lot of pyridine and I'll admit it is nasty smelling. The funny thing is it just never stayed with me like CS2 used to.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 12:20 AM (RXQ2T)

477 Hubby and his brother were going to see Lincoln the other day but it was 30 degrees outside and the line stretched outside for half a block. Mostly old people. They saw Red Dawn instead.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:20 AM (DoZD+)

478 Meanwhile the TB3K hungers.

Let it feed.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 26, 2012 12:20 AM (xKC/c)

479 477
@ 472 Mætenloch

In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This
blog really has changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who
can not be mocked.


Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM

That's right, and we're not benevolent loving gods. We're gods who demand sacrifice and are empowered to line up to kick a troll in the balls who will not kneel before us

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (wwsoB)

480 Abortion = the premeditated taking of an innocent, defenseless human life.

Sounds like murder to me.
Except you're going to tell me that a human fetus is neither alive nor human,,, and then try to call me a loon.
Guess it's like comedy central idiocy here tonight.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (PNi9V)

481 Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu)

My earlier snark aside, my prayers and sympathies for you and your family.

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (paPv4)

482 I think Ether has a PhD in education.....if I learner anything from tonight's thread.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (PALjS)

483 Andrew Sullivan.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (DoZD+)


LOL! Why is he McBikeseat? I kind of clued in after Andrew Sullivan went off the rails so I never paid any attention to him.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (s765P)

484 478. TWEET!!!!
We have a use of obscure words penalty
Offense
10 yard penalty
Second down

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (hGW9h)

485 464 @ 458 kbdabear

You are hypocrites. I love when Socons get busted with drugs and porn. Social Conservatives is just an excuse to control society. It's American Fascism.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:13 AM (g7C10)

~~~

Ah, one of Barney Frank's harem has joined the fray.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 12:22 AM (RXQ2T)

486 Meanwhile the TB3K hungers.


Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM

You don't go by the name Zod at times, do you?

All hail Z... er .. Maet .. uh ...


Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:23 AM (wwsoB)

487 Not drunk typing on kindle. Wife hides chocolate. In the freezers.
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:18 AM (PALjS)

I have discovered that I can hide chocolate from my husband if I place it below his line of vision. He is considerably taller than I.

Also, if I put it behind my cookbooks.

The kids can find anything I hide anywhere though.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:23 AM (s765P)

488 LOL! Why is he McBikeseat? I kind of clued in after Andrew Sullivan went off the rails so I never paid any attention to him.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (s765P)

If I'm not mistaken "Ponytail McBikeseat" is Kilgore's soul-mate.

Posted by: Nighthawk at November 26, 2012 12:24 AM (paPv4)

489 497. Nah
It's the lizard dude

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:24 AM (hGW9h)

490 *plonk*

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 26, 2012 12:24 AM (XkotV)

491 Who is ponytail mcBikeseat?

Some insane wretch with a blog about space alien soccer.

Posted by: Methos at November 26, 2012 12:25 AM (hO9ad)

492 505. Lizard?
Smells coffee
What the hell is in this?

The fooooooootball dude

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:25 AM (hGW9h)

493
>>>In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has
changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be
mocked.

meh. Every chance you fake Libertarians get you try to sell this line. You'll go away in a few months. The socons will still be here. And guess what. That's why they have so much sway. The classic "play by our rules or we go home" isn't a way to win friends or influence people in a coalition. But anger seems to be the way of so many who claim to be libertarians. I've often wondered why.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:26 AM (GE1+K)

494 "I don't care about abortion."

Ice wedges always melt under the dawn of a new sage.

Posted by: derit at November 26, 2012 12:26 AM (I88Jc)

495

I see ALL of you.

Posted by: Larches Sojnnoh at November 26, 2012 12:26 AM (icYPx)

496 In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be mocked.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (g7C10)



Try increasing your Pamprin doseage.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 26, 2012 12:27 AM (Pw/dS)

497 Emile Antoon Khadaji, I'm very sorry. If we could only fix our families.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:27 AM (DoZD+)

498 I miss palin steele. He really put a lot of effort into his trolling.

The kind of effort you see when a special needs kid tries to fix a Windows error message

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:27 AM (wwsoB)

499 Just turned to Liz & Dick. Its more than halfway through and after only 10 minutes or so, yeah, it's awful, but it can't be blamed on Lohan. The dialogue is trite and Lohan shouldn't have been cast. Her voice sounds exactly like.... Lindsay Lohan. But, I can see what the sidebar reviewer was getting at: She looks beautiful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 26, 2012 12:28 AM (piMMO)

500 Maetenloch for the win!

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:28 AM (s765P)

501 Socons are just another form of the Left. You are Fascists and seek to create a police state.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:08 AM (g7C10)


Poseurs!

Posted by: Benito Mussolini at November 26, 2012 12:29 AM (sZTYJ)

502 499 @ 488 lou's a mean girlSocons are no different than Democrats. You just disagree what the government should do. You both stand for control.
Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:22 AM (g7C10)

If a women gets an abortion, thats her sin. not mine. I dont want to pay for it. Oh, and fuck you!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:29 AM (adaoe)

503 via drudge, pravda and putin chiding us for neglecting history and going full retard:
http://scoamf.us/4a

Posted by: t-bird at November 26, 2012 12:30 AM (FcR7P)

504 468. I got one
Normally on turkey day I really don't give thanks for crap

After dinner about an hour or so I was on the website and watching football when I saw my wife an daughter asleep on the couch

I gave thanks right there

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:30 AM (LqVsA)

505 Ahh the abortion is murder argument. You can't compare an alive human to some cell in a woman's body. It's intellectually dishonest and makes you look like a loon. You have lost this argument anyway.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (g7C10)


I've been saying the same thing for decades! You can't compare a human being to some clump of cells or a Jew!

It's unscientific!

Posted by: Dr. Mengele at November 26, 2012 12:30 AM (sZTYJ)

506 Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu)

~~~~~~

I am so sorry for your loss!
You are not to blame.
God has the child in Heaven with Him.
What you can do now is make sure the meth addicts are charged with murder.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 12:31 AM (RXQ2T)

507 {i]In other words, I must tow the Socon line. This blog really has
changed from a few years back. Socons are now gods who can not be
mocked.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:17 AM (g7C10)

Hey, imbecile, the expression is "TOE the line," not "tow the line." But since you're so much smarter than the rest of us, I'm sure you knew that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2012 12:31 AM (pwyhn)

508 Okay guys, I'm out. It was fun trollbusting with y'all.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:31 AM (s765P)

509 Katya, elizabethe, thanks.

Wife just texted me, looks like Wretch and Scumbag are going to jail. Would have been nice a month ago, jerks. BTW Wretch refused a drug test at the hospital. I'm sure that wasn't a giant flashing warning sign or anything.

I swear the next time I see a cop in this town I'm going to go off on him.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (KvKOu)

510 Or maybe I should say, "I'm sure you NEW that." Dipshit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (pwyhn)

511 Dear Emile, so sorry for your loss. Please do not blame yourself.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (GX2fm)

512 448 And I think the modern philosophy department at the university level has but two goals.

See, right there's your problem. "Modern philosophy" is not a major.
I spent a lot of time with the Pre-Socratics, and Aristotle. I encourage you to continue your interviews of the occupiers. Please get back to me as soon as you find an Aristotelian there. You might ask about Aquinas, too.

Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (qaVK+)

513 I know it sounds trite, but when it's time to give thanks I always count off my family first. They make life worth living.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (DoZD+)

514 482 I think Ether has a PhD in education.....if I learner anything from tonight's thread.
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM (PALjS)


Yes, indeed. He did very well defending his thesis with a "Say-n-Spell.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (Pw/dS)

515 @ Elizabethe.....thanks for the chocolate hiding tips....I will see if the kids know of any other places.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM (PALjS)

516 LOL! Why is he McBikeseat? I kind of clued in after Andrew Sullivan went off the rails so I never paid any attention to him.





Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:21 AM

No, it's not sweetums sullivan, it's the other formerly relevant blogger who takes beach photographs that look like they were shot by an Asperberger's patient with glaucoma

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM (wwsoB)

517 Wife just texted me, looks like Wretch and Scumbag are going to jail. Would have been nice a month ago, jerks. BTW Wretch refused a drug test at the hospital. I'm sure that wasn't a giant flashing warning sign or anything.

I swear the next time I see a cop in this town I'm going to go off on him.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (KvKO

Emile, I'm going to pray for you and the mother too. She's a meth addcit now, but if she ever sobers up, she will be living in hell -- jail or not.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM (s765P)

518 the other formerly relevant blogger who takes beach photographs that look like they were shot by an Asperberger's patient with glaucoma

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM (wwsoB)

I have no clue who that is.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM (s765P)

519 513. Not trite at all

Sometimes we all need to remember what makes life good

Like Da BEARS

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:35 AM (LqVsA)

520 I've been saying the same thing for decades! You can't compare a human being to some clump of cells or a Jew!

It's unscientific!
Posted by: Dr. Mengele at November 26, 2012 12:30 AM (sZTYJ)


See? Told ya.

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at November 26, 2012 12:37 AM (Pw/dS)

521 Yawn, geez, can't even get a decent troll around here. Might as well lay my old bones down. Need to rest up. Cloven hoof season opens Wednesday.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 26, 2012 12:37 AM (cWpCn)

522
the expression is "TOE the line," not "tow the line.




Thank you. That one drives me crazy.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:37 AM (DoZD+)

523 518. Uggggh
Tiny
Jokers hair color
Sport that the jets can't play

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:37 AM (LqVsA)

524 Yo morons. Ugh, a full workweek begins

Posted by: zeera at November 26, 2012 12:38 AM (3dXwx)

525 524 People still work?

Posted by: Butters at November 26, 2012 12:38 AM (NIZHJ)

526 523. Kbdabear...that last one was for you of course

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:39 AM (LqVsA)

527 @ Elizabethe.....thanks for the chocolate hiding tips....I will see if the kids know of any other places.
Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM (PALjS)

You bet. Good luck!

You should also counterattack. Start buying chocolate or ice cream or something and hiding it from her. Then let her discover it and make it known that you will share if she's shares.

It's really not good to be doing any secret eating, in all seriousness.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:39 AM (s765P)

528 522. Katya, no hell list?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:40 AM (LqVsA)

529 Another way to explain ponytail's photography

"Schwinn User's Manual Aspiring to Be Fine Art"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:40 AM (wwsoB)

530 Okay, I can see I'm never going to get a straight answer on who pontail McBikeseat is. I'm going to ask about it in the morning thread.

good night!

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:40 AM (s765P)

531 I swear by Allah, please forgive me. I won't make such a mistake again

Indeed. Indeed.

Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 26, 2012 12:41 AM (QCK5m)

532 525 524 People still work?
Posted by: Butters at November 26, 2012 12:38 AM (NIZHJ)


Not around here.

You kiddin?

Posted by: USPS Day Pool at November 26, 2012 12:41 AM (Pw/dS)

533
Time for bed. I gotta work tomorrow so I can pay some baby daddys food stamps so he can use his currency to get a new tattoo for Christmas.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:42 AM (DoZD+)

534 501 Socons are just another form of the Left. You are Fascists and seek to create a police state.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:08 AM (g7C10)

~~~~

You found us out! Well done you! For first place you'll get the nightstick shampoo treatment twice as long and three times as hard. You are so welcome!

Remember the more you play the more you win.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 12:42 AM (RXQ2T)

535 Sometimes we all need to remember what makes life good
Like Da BEARS


I'm just going to assume you misspelled "beers".

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 26, 2012 12:42 AM (C9q3o)

536 My out of cubicle sabbatical continues.

Posted by: Butters at November 26, 2012 12:42 AM (NIZHJ)

537 I'm never going to get a straight answer on who pontail McBikeseat is.

You can trust the Ministry of Truth.

Its Charles Johnson who manages the swirling vortex known as LGF.

Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 26, 2012 12:43 AM (QCK5m)

538 West Virginia's state government is run by Democrats. The state governments of Mississippi and Arkansas were run by Democrats for over 130 years until THIS election. Louisiana was run by Democrats until 2008. Alabama also over 130 years run by Democrats until THIS election just past.

Looks to me like having a state legislature run by Democrats makes people score low on tests.


Posted by: crosspatch at November 26, 2012 12:43 AM (ZbLJZ)

539 530 Okay, I can see I'm never going to get a straight answer on who pontail McBikeseat is. I'm going to ask about it in the morning thread.

good night!
Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:40 AM (s765P)



I think the initials arlescha ohnsonjay, are a hint.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 26, 2012 12:43 AM (Pw/dS)

540
Katya, no hell list?





My mood for it fell by the wayside. But I'm an angry, fascist socon so I'm sure my ire will return and I'll be back on it soon.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 26, 2012 12:43 AM (DoZD+)

541 535. Want to see some real sports denial?
Go to yahoo sports
There an article about cutler being MVP

Even I can't pull that one out

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:44 AM (LqVsA)

542 530 Okay, I can see I'm never going to get a straight answer on who pontail McBikeseat is. I'm going to ask about it in the morning thread. good night!
Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:40 AM (s765P)

Its an old sad blog, lgf.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (adaoe)

543 I have no clue who that is.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 26, 2012 12:33 AM

Well, think of the career of Adam West had he been a blogger

Nobody uses his name because he's a paranoid who actually coded an alert system to see who was talking about him. Then he uses that to start a blog war in order to try to revive his dying blog

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (wwsoB)

544 448 And I think the modern philosophy department at the university level has but two goals.

See, right there's your problem. "Modern philosophy" is not a major.
I
spent a lot of time with the Pre-Socratics, and Aristotle. I encourage
you to continue your interviews of the occupiers. Please get back to me
as soon as you find an Aristotelian there. You might ask about Aquinas,
too.


1. I didn't use "Modern" to modify "Philosophy" it was used to modify "Department": Meaning a philosophy department of modern times.

You think my disdain of the subject means I am wholly unfamiliar with it? That Ethics, and Politics do not occupy a space of pride alongside Two Treatises of Government and the Federalist Papers in my Library? That I might not know Pythagoras was a Philosopher and to an extent a cultist? No I wave my hand curtly at the study as the elite of the subject wholly reject or ignore the philosophies I find the most relevant, meaningful, and coincidentally practical. It has soured my mouth not to the learning of philosophy, which in earnest has been an interest for some years, just to the University study of Philosophy, which at least by my anecdote and observation, by and large gave up the search for wisdom and replaced it with a search for power. They themselves fell prey to the mythical ring of Gyges; Having first obtained influence in modern affairs and they had the intent at seeking justice, eventually broadened the idea of "justice" until it meant more and more power to the intellectual class. As we see both persons the moral and immoral are the same, the only difference is the time frame to totalitarianism.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (GE1+K)

545 Just saw a commercial for it.

Cannot begin to express how much it disturbs me the think of that ghey midget, Tom Cruise playing Jack Reacher.

That is all.

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (QG3g9)

546 Emile Antoon Khadaji, I am so very, very sorry. Please don't feel guilt about what's happened. Sorrow, anger, grief, yes, but not guilt. It often seems in retrospect that there was some magic moment we might have intervened, but in this sort of complicated family situation, happy endings are in short supply.

Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (g9Bky)

547 431
I sure as hell hope University of Oregon has a good program, 'cause my goddaughter's in it. And it's pricey.




Posted by: cthulhu at November 25, 2012 11:45 PM

Tell us what
she looks like so we can wave to her in the next "Occupy Portland" camp
because she can't pay her student loans and she doesn't want to work
for an evil developer



Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:02 AM (wwsoB)


Her mom is one of my dearest friends -- but is an odd sort of lib. She'll vote the party line, but (a) runs her own business; (b) has 3 great kids; (c) takes care of her own; (d) decided that the BH and I should be her kids' godparents; (e) kept her kids out of public education; (f) does not gloat to us about the state of politics in California and the US; and so on. Her brother collects guns; her sister homeschooled. Except for the reflexive anti-Republicanism, she's a whole lot like....a conservative.

She allows us an active role with the kids, and we've tried to go beyond surface talking points and help them understand how things work -- everything from "always have a plan, a backup plan, and a bailout plan whenever you start a fire -- and know where your resources are" to "here's the guys rebuilding our kitchen -- hi, guys!; hi, kids! -- here's how we take care of them -- there's fans up in the attic so they don't cook, we have plenty of water, we make them take breaks (while we keep paying), we give them dust masks.....and here's the beautiful work they do, and this is especially nice...."

They are great kids, and we do what we can to have them grow up right. I can recall one "I hate W" talk that was like a punch in the gut, but we kept questioning and found it to be just a slogan heard somewhere. Kids, y'know?

But the young lady who's a duck isn't likely to be in an Occupy camp. From what I can tell, she's working harder than I did when I was in college -- and I did a nominal 4-year degree in 3-1/2 years while about half of my cohort did theirs in 5 [I also minored in girlfriend drama and substance abuse -- a "green death" was a layered drink in a shotglass of 151-proof rum over 101-proof schnapps over 80-proof green creme-de-menthe, with all liquors being fresh from the freezer......and I graduated at the age of 20]. I just hope the program is worthy of her.



Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:47 AM (kaalw)

548 448- "The study of Philosophy, as such, is what has deluded most of man to think that structured society is not only possible, but preferable, so I consider it in general alongside of Political Science when I think of thoughts about the subject."

There are many philosophers who oppose the "structured society." In a good philosophy program, a student will read not only Plato, but Aristotle and Cicero; not only Marx, but Adam Smith, John Locke, and the American Founders.

The problem with many philosophy departments today is that they either get bogged down in highly technical analysis or they teach only left-wing views. They have less and less to do with philosophy (love of wisdom, the search for Truth) and more to do with ideology (instrumental thought systems that serve material ends.)

The greatest enemy of the philosophical enterprise was, not surprisingly, Karl Marx. In "The Poverty of Philosophy," he famously dismissed it with his argument that "the point is not to understand the world, but to change it." It is a cardinal feature of leftism that it values Power, not Truth ----which is to say that it is profoundly ANTI-philosophical.
Thus philosophy departments at our lefty universities today tend to be rather.....confused.

I suspect (?) that your contempt for philosophy has less to do with the thing itself so much as what it becomes in the hands of the Left, which corrupts everything it touches.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 26, 2012 12:47 AM (C8mVl)

549 "Well, think of the career of Adam West had he been a blogger"

Enjoying a resurgence of nostalgia on the back of a provincial hack, Seth McFarlham? What a lucky SOB!

Posted by: Dan Rather at November 26, 2012 12:48 AM (I88Jc)

550 545. Are you fucking kidding?
Cruise as reacher?

Reacher is like 6'5" in the book

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:48 AM (LqVsA)

551 Nobody uses his name because he's a paranoid who actually coded an alert system to see who was talking about him. Then he uses that to start a blog war in order to try to revive his dying blog
Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (wwsoB)

oh shit, did I just summon him?

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:48 AM (adaoe)

552 Politics is a parallel universe...one where the rules of this universe don't apply, but where what happens there, can fuck you over here.


Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 26, 2012 12:49 AM (QCK5m)

553 435
My mother married a wastewater treatment chemist when I was 18. He was
an extremely logical and pragmatic man. My elementary school aged sister
used to come to the dinner table with incredibly idiotic 'scientific'
statements, usually about green stuff. My new step-dad, with his
eyebrows almost flying off his head would ask, "Where did you hear
that?" and the answer would invariably be, "On the bus." That became a
catchphrase at our house for any 'fact' presented without logical or
data backup. Most liberals seem to get all their economic, foreign
policy, etc., etc., info 'on the bus.'

God bless that man for
pulling my idealistic, mush-brained teen self from the liberal abyss
just in time. It kinda hurt, though: he wasn't gentle. He's why I'm an
organic chem type myself. But not wastewater treatment. Yuck. I wasn't
all that fond of take your daughter to work day.


Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 12:04 AM (g9Bky)


My dad ended up designing and building wastewater plants.....and I ended up auditing them. They are fascinating and worthwhile in an "upwind" kind-of way.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:50 AM (kaalw)

554 Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:47 AM

I hope she stays true to her upbringing. Universities take in bright kids and turn out slogan chanting leftist wackos

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:50 AM (wwsoB)

555 541. No but 537 may have

Now somebody has to buy a calender
Ugggh

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 12:51 AM (LqVsA)

556 >>>The study of Philosophy, as such, is what has deluded most.

>>>I suspect (?) that your contempt for philosophy has less to do with the
thing itself so much as what it becomes in the hands of the Left, which
corrupts everything it touches.


True enough. I should have been clearer. I have respect for Philosophy, just very little for University Philosophy programs.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 12:51 AM (GE1+K)

557 oh shit, did I just summon him?

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:48 AM

Only if you look in the mirror and say his name five times

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:51 AM (wwsoB)

558 509
Katya, elizabethe, thanks.



Wife just texted me, looks like Wretch and Scumbag are going to
jail. Would have been nice a month ago, jerks. BTW Wretch refused a drug
test at the hospital. I'm sure that wasn't a giant flashing warning
sign or anything.



I swear the next time I see a cop in this town I'm going to go off on him.

Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:32 AM (KvKOu)

Sorry to hear about this, and it really sucks going through all the red tape to get anything done. I had a family member that had a real bad substance abuse problem, and there was very little we could do. The cops would only do something if this person became a danger to themselves. Being a danger to everyone else by driving or doing stupid shit was okay, but if they talked about suicide, then they would get involved.
Lesson learned, if you want to have a loved one committed for treatment, lie and tell the cops/magistrate that the person talked about committing suicide. But a word of caution, it only works once.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 26, 2012 12:52 AM (Zd/NW)

559 The best educated states also seem to produce all the brainpower on the right, too. It would be nice if you red state morons chipped in a little.

Posted by: Abe Froman at November 26, 2012 12:53 AM (E55AK)

560 oh shit, did I just summon him?

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:48 AM

Here's how he gets summoned by his apostles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onntXB7qRts

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:53 AM (wwsoB)

561 to try to revive his dying blog
Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 12:45 AM (wwsoB)


..as he bans half his commentors for disagreement.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 26, 2012 12:55 AM (Pw/dS)

562 544 --- "It has soured my mouth not to the learning of philosophy, which in earnest has been an interest for some years, just to the University study of Philosophy, which at least by my anecdote and observation, by and large gave up the search for wisdom and replaced it with a search for power. "

Heh. If I had read that before writing my #548, I could have saved myself a lot of time by just saying "Yup!"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 26, 2012 12:55 AM (C8mVl)

563 Night all.
ether description via urban dictionary
It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early irish novel ... total loss of all basic motor skills: blurred vision, no balance, numb ...

or it gets huffed, yeah, loving the name

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:55 AM (adaoe)

564 Watching H2, It finally dawned on me why chankles idolizes Ellenore Roosevelt. They are both conceded power hungry bitches.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 12:56 AM (6gXNv)

565 I am feeling pretty threatened by microbes on Mars! My world view will be shattered! I may turn over a car, steal a TV, assualt a blonde TV reporter on the street, man there is no telling what I will do if NASA announces something important! Don't take me alive! (I know you're out there, with your megaphones!)

Posted by: and irresolute at November 26, 2012 12:56 AM (DBH1h)

566 Hmm well. When it comes to respecting University programs, I'd like to point out that right through the 1960's, it took five years to get an engineering degree.

So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?

Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM (qaVK+)

567 472
cthulhu: So are doctors the only non-bureaucrats who have any access to
any proposed regulations? We keep hearing about new Outrageously
Outrages regulations every day; Have they sent out preliminary
regulations to doctors, or is it just more leaks?

Posted by: Helga at November 26, 2012 12:19 AM (6+c2Y)


Preliminary regulations are issued by each part of government. For instance, here's where you can start for HHS: http://www.hhs.gov/regulations/index.html . The problem is, there's gazillions of them, and they're everywhere. The last place to look is with doctors -- half of them [overeducated] still believe [overeducated] that nothing bad [overeducated] will ever happen to them [overeducated] because the government is involved [overeducated].

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:58 AM (kaalw)

568 564
Watching H2, It finally dawned on me why chankles idolizes Ellenore Roosevelt. They are both conceded power hungry bitches.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 12:56 AM (6gXNv)

And they both want to visit the Isle of Lesbos.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 26, 2012 12:59 AM (Zd/NW)

569 It makes you behave like the village drunkard in some early irish novel ... total loss of all basic motor skills: blurred vision, no balance, numb ... Shit that describes me too, must go to bed, tee hee. Night all!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 26, 2012 12:59 AM (adaoe)

570 >>>Hmm well. When it comes to respecting University programs, I'd like to
point out that right through the 1960's, it took five years to get an
engineering degree.
So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?

Drafting.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 01:00 AM (GE1+K)

571 Ahh the abortion is murder argument. You can't compare an alive human to some cell in a woman's body. It's intellectually dishonest and makes you look like a loon. You have lost this argument anyway.

Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (g7C10)

~~~~~

Look you POS my boy is adopted from birth. His birth mom is no saint but she knew she was carrying a life and that she could not give that life the proper care so she chose to carry the child to term (my kinda "pro choice"). So this mistake of hers (and birth dad too) calls me Daddy and is sleeping with his Mommy right now. What do you think these "live humans" you yap about start out as? Kumquats? Don't want to start a reaction, fine, don't mix the reagents! Otherwise take your psuedointellectual cr@p that has no scientific basis and shove it up your azz.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 26, 2012 01:00 AM (RXQ2T)

572 "...assault a blonde TV reporter on the street, man there is no telling what I will do if NASA announces something important!"

The Oakland Outreach News Team is ready for anything (with a ring of steel).

Posted by: Rep. Dirk Diggler at November 26, 2012 01:01 AM (I88Jc)

573
564 Watching H2, It finally dawned on me why chankles idolizes Ellenore Roosevelt. They are both conceded power hungry bitches.
Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 12:56 AM (6gXNv)


I thought it was because they were both big lesbians.

Such a great clip in Wedding Crashers.

Posted by: buzzion at November 26, 2012 01:01 AM (GULKT)

574 Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:50 AM (kaalw)

I was just being snarky - they really are fascinating. I didn't like to touch anything when I was there, though! My favorite part (at least in our area, your plants may differ) are the sand filtration beds. All that technology, chemistry, flashing lights, red buttons [do *not* touch, missy] and it all comes down to the system the ancient Egyptians used. And snails. Snails are cool.

Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 01:02 AM (g9Bky)

575
Hello me M+M's,
Jus wanted to post on my most excellent "MAN!" day out on the ocean fishing the front side of Santa Cruz Island with other men focused on the primal hunter-gatherer limbic ...or is that adrenal-cotrex gland infussion....but I digress, took the big fish pot with an 18lb ling-cod and the the 12 year old scotch bottles came out with Arturo Fuentes and HOLY SHIT the ghost of PAPPA walked amoung'st us like Islands in the Stream.....such a day....like 9 years since such a day....it was good to be on the ocean....it was so very good.

Posted by: DOC. at November 26, 2012 01:03 AM (Nape+)

576 537
I'm never going to get a straight answer on who pontail McBikeseat is.

You can trust the Ministry of Truth.

Its Charles Johnson who manages the swirling vortex known as LGF.


Posted by: Winston Smith (Islam edition) at November 26, 2012 12:43 AM (QCK5m)


Aiiiieeeeee!! You said THE NAME!!!!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 01:04 AM (kaalw)

577 And they both want to visit the Isle of Lesbos.

Yep. We've been screwed for over 70 years.

*****

Ahh the abortion is murder argument. You can't compare an alive human to some cell in a woman's body. It's intellectually dishonest and makes you look like a loon. You have lost this argument anyway. Posted by: Ether at November 26, 2012 12:12 AM (g7C10)
Fuck you. I put a baby up for adoption. There is no (little) reason to kill an unborn child.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:04 AM (6gXNv)

578 If it is genetically human and alive, then it is a human life, and disposing of it because you find it inconvenient is murder. Your responsibility begins when you create it.

Posted by: Cato at November 26, 2012 01:06 AM (gbppU)

579 Damn you new pixy hamster.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:08 AM (6gXNv)

580 Deus Ex and Borderlands 2 are both staring at me on Steam. I can't decide on if I should pick them up.

Posted by: buzzion at November 26, 2012 01:09 AM (GULKT)

581 So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?


Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM

Math is racist!

Posted by: Caltech at November 26, 2012 01:10 AM (wwsoB)

582 Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu)

No. Don't torture yourself.



Posted by: eman at November 26, 2012 01:11 AM (bWwMZ)

583 574
Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 12:50 AM (kaalw)

I was
just being snarky - they really are fascinating. I didn't like to touch
anything when I was there, though! My favorite part (at least in our
area, your plants may differ) are the sand filtration beds. All that
technology, chemistry, flashing lights, red buttons [do *not* touch,
missy] and it all comes down to the system the ancient Egyptians used.
And snails. Snails are cool.


Posted by: Pentangle at November 26, 2012 01:02 AM (g9Bky)


It gets even funnier. When I was in Santa Barbara, auditing wastewater plants (the firm where I worked had a specialty), I was living in shared quarters with two guys [and 1200 gallons of fish] who worked at tropical fish stores......where filtration and purification of closed systems was vitally important. And one of the "analog" tests of the output of one plant was surviving fish in the processing channel.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 01:13 AM (kaalw)

584 Emile Antoon Khadaji,

Oh, I am so sorry for you and your family and that poor baby.

I can't even begin to imagine the grief and the anger you must be feeling right now.

There are better prayers being said for you and yours, by better people but I'll add my small part.

This is one good place to vent.

People here have probably offered much better response than I can.

Oh, my dear, I am so, so sorry.

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 01:17 AM (QG3g9)

585 Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu) No. Don't torture yourself.
I'm sorry. Don't torture yourself. Try to remember, he is in God's hands now and in a better place. The Wrech and bf with get their comupance in the end.

My condolences.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:18 AM (6gXNv)

586 Emile Antoon Khadaji,
Sorry for your loss. Getting in a tiff with the cops won't help.

Posted by: DaveA at November 26, 2012 01:19 AM (Xefrb)

587 Did anyone else see that Obama sped up the drone rules and the disposition matrix because he was afraid Romney would stop using them? Essentially institutionalizing drone strikes so Romney would have no choice when he 'won'. I'm not against drone strikes against non-US citizens but every libertarian I got into it with always brought up how Romney would continue them and thus no difference. Here we have Obama admitting Romney would dial them back! Also what does that say about how confident they were in his re election if they sped up all these policies and regulations to get them in the system before January.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 26, 2012 01:22 AM (xV30b)

588 >> After dinner about an hour or so I was on the website and watching football when I saw my wife an daughter asleep on the couch

I gave thanks right there

'Cause you're afraid of them when they are awake, right?

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 01:23 AM (QG3g9)

589 Exasperated -
Same thing with the EPA rules with no congressional oversight. LIB!

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:25 AM (6gXNv)

590 Emile,

Sorry for the loss of the innocent child. Even if you had done what you wanted, the same would have probably happened once the legal system and CPS did it's thing

The child's death is torment enough for you, don't do it to yourself further.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 01:25 AM (wwsoB)

591 >>>>I'm out night all.

Emile, I'm so very sorry.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Troll Hunter! at November 26, 2012 01:26 AM (GE1+K)

592 Yeah, drones.
It would a total and complete fucking shame if something were to happen to them. Really, it would.

Posted by: navybrat at November 26, 2012 01:26 AM (r1ty1)

593 Every summer, and it always seemed to happen in Southern California, some dipshit would lock her kid in the car to go shopping. When the child died from heat stroke, she was always SO SORRY and the authorities or juries would let her off because "she's already been punished enough", and we all forget sometimes

They never forget their cell phone, but you know, it's so easy to forget you left a kid in the car while gossiping with the girls in the nail salon

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2012 01:29 AM (wwsoB)

594 166
Maybe the moronettes can clue me in: I've been using dating sites and
lately I come across profiles where the girl talks about what an
affectionate and loving person she is, and she has so much love to give,
etc.

So I send her a nice email, she reads the email, and then.... that's it.

So
I'm wondering, where did all that love go? What does it mean when women
say they have so much love to give and share, and yet that never seems
to be enough to respond to a simple, nice email?

And yes I was
very polite and mentioned details in her profile to show I read it too.
None of this, hey baby come sit on my face! silliness. I only do that
for Craigslist anyway.


Posted by: Christina Hendrick's Mighty Jugs is Really SMOD in Disguise at November 25, 2012 10:45 PM (+AV7H)


Might I suggest that you spend some time reflecting on some distraction, totally unrelated to dating sites, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowerbird

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 01:30 AM (kaalw)

595 588. Kinda sorta true

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 26, 2012 01:30 AM (7T+2w)

596 navybrat. And now there are in our own cities and towns. More ammo.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:30 AM (6gXNv)

597 there = they

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:33 AM (6gXNv)

598 589
Those new coal and fracking rules are going to destroy what's left of energy development in the US. No oversight, no public comment and in some cases illegal withholding of their release due to possible political damage. Of course the Ninth Circuit will find the process constitutional.

What exactly does it say about the legality of the strikes if Obama was rushing to codify their usage and his methods? The drones are a gray area. Excellent tool when used correctly but the potential for misuse is too great. Especially with their expansion onto US soil and usage to kill American citizens.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 26, 2012 01:36 AM (xV30b)

599
My wife lost the last 2 in 1st trimester,
Yet I was blessed with 5 very great kids. Someone who can just snuff out an obvious human life because the life was an "inconvience" to their own personal life "at the moment"...........I will not state further least I gain a banhammer for the most honest of statements...and the most obvious of truths.

Posted by: DOC. at November 26, 2012 01:39 AM (Nape+)

600 598

Totally agree. What can we do about it but hunker down and rebuild when the time comes? Admittedly I live in a red area, but my state still went for TFG and we have 2 dems sentators.

Let it Burn.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:40 AM (6gXNv)

601 566
Hmm well. When it comes to respecting University programs, I'd like to
point out that right through the 1960's, it took five years to get an
engineering degree.

So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?


Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM (qaVK+)


===
it takes a lot, if not most, engineers more than 8 semesters to finish. To do the 4 year catalog, a student has to show up ready to do calc-based physics immediately as a freshman.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 01:44 AM (kfC1R)

602 Online dating hierarchy: sexy>funny>crazy>nicey

Posted by: derit at November 26, 2012 01:46 AM (I88Jc)

603 600
Beans, boots, bullets, blankets, bullion. I'm gonna get self righteously pissed at every libertariantard who told me there was no difference between those two especially on foreign policy. I live in the reddest county in the country and we have a Dem rep because 5700 people voted for the LP and the Rep(Love) lost by ~750. I fully expect to see the Bakken and Marcellus oil plays to become cost prohibitive after reading those new regs. I'm 3/4 if the way to the let it burn. The only thing keeping me from pouring on the gas is two parents on Medicare and a social worker wife.

Posted by: Exasperated Expat at November 26, 2012 01:47 AM (xV30b)

604
601 566 Hmm well. When it comes to respecting University programs, I'd like to point out that right through the 1960's, it took five years to get an engineering degree.So, did engineering get easier, or did they leave something out?Posted by: comatus at November 26, 2012 12:57 AM (qaVK+) ===it takes a lot, if not most, engineers more than 8 semesters to finish. To do the 4 year catalog, a student has to show up ready to do calc-based physics immediately as a freshman.
Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 01:44 AM (kfC1R)


Most engineering programs also do Co-Ops now which are paid internships. You actually go out and work in the field for a company, or government or university. I had the typical 4 year program but with the Co-ops happening on alternating semesters it actually took 4 and a half.

Posted by: buzzion at November 26, 2012 01:50 AM (GULKT)

605 Utah? Yes, I have my daughter living with me, a 70+ dad nearby and a disabled brother a mile away. Stocking up to help us all. Daughter finally getting it and has been a big help. Lot's of prayers in this household.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:51 AM (6gXNv)

606 opps, that was for 603.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 01:55 AM (6gXNv)

607 Well H2 ruined that show about WWII. Towards the end it was slobbering all over FDR. Blek.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 02:02 AM (6gXNv)

608 >>Reacher is like 6'5" in the book

No shit. Kind of important fucking plot point for ALL of the books.

Could have cast pretty much ANYBODY (except for Herve Villachaise or Tom fucking Cruise).

Other than Reacher being, huge, laconic, highly intelligent and deadly...

Don't see too many restrictions when it comes to casting choices.

I kind of think that he has hazel eyes but for the life of me, couldn't tell you what his hair color is.

All I know is, if I ever were to pick up a hitch-hiker, he would have to be a giant, wearing just Gawd Aweful clothes an and a travel toothbrush!

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:06 AM (QG3g9)

609 Other than Reacher being, huge, laconic, highly intelligent and deadly...

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:06 AM (QG3g9)

I would have been the perfect Jack Reacher.

Posted by: Steven Seagal at November 26, 2012 02:08 AM (4ixH5)

610 And good evening again.

I'm...kinda sorta here tonight.

Posted by: Robert at November 26, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)

611 evenin' Roberto -- I yam woikin' at home.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 02:13 AM (kfC1R)

612 Goodevening Robert. How's it hanging?

Sorry, being a smart ass. Can't sleep and the pain pill for the knee hasn't kicked in yet.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 02:13 AM (6gXNv)

613 I don't know what's in it, but raw crude oil smells awful.

Posted by: Secundus at November 25, 2012 11:38 PM (x/9BF)
Some heavy crude is loaded with sulfur compounds, and it does stink. Some light crude smells more like naptha, or Coleman lantern fuel, which is quite pleasant.But it all smells like money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 26, 2012 02:15 AM (pFqpP)

614 Howdy, JC!

Howdy, Infidel!

Not much to speak of here. Sippin' some herbal tea.

Posted by: Robert at November 26, 2012 02:20 AM (4ixH5)

615 Workin on my last beer before this long week. JC, do you live in Lakewood?

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 02:25 AM (6gXNv)

616 JC, do you live in Lakewood?

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 02:25 AM (6gXNv)


===
nope. I live in the Cook Inlet drainage.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 02:31 AM (kfC1R)

617 Ah, Alaska. How do you handle the darkness? I've always want to go there, I would just miss the sunlight.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2012 02:34 AM (6gXNv)

618 @609

No Steven.

I said laconic, not inarticulate. There is a difference.

I did specify intelligent which kind of rules you out but how were you to know?

My bad not being explicit about the Reacher character not being a douche-bag.

Sorry.

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:41 AM (QG3g9)

619
Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:41 AM (QG3g9)

I see you don't dispute my being huge and deadly.
*Karate chops a doughnut*

Posted by: Steven Seagal at November 26, 2012 02:43 AM (4ixH5)

620 OK, here is the light/dark -- warm/cold thing ---


At the peak of the summer it never really gets dark, just kinda dusk for a while and then light again. Then the time changes pretty fast. During much of the year, except right at the equinox, it is 5-6 minutes lighter/darker than the day before. On Dec 20-21, there is daylight from about 9:30 AM to about 4 PM.


So, the most important thing is to get outside in the day. Fresh air makes all the difference. A lot of us also take Vit D supplements, and some folks keep full spectrum lights around.


A lot of the dark issues are offset by the holidays. There is a lot of
activity and cheerful people and it goes right by without much notice.


In Jan/Feb, a lot of people go on vacation. All year round there are a lot of direct flights to HI and the islands are always packed with Alaskans.



The weirdest thing isn't the dark. The weirdest thing is there is no such thing as a warm night. If it dark, it isn't warm, and if it is warm, it isn't dark.


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 02:44 AM (kfC1R)

621 not preaching or imposing morality on other people is no different than
not preaching or imposing IMMORALITY on other people. Hence why
libertarians should be able to get along with SoCons.


Disagree. Laws punishing murder are "preaching and imposing morality". Any existing law is an imposition of a moral standard. Even a complete lack of laws is a moral standard of sorts. (Which ends up being the Law of the Jungle. Can't get away from laws.)

If men were angels, we wouldn't need government. We know men aren't angels, so we do need a government, and governments (and politicians) pop up wherever men gather. The key concept that differentiates American conservatism from the rest is that we're for a limited government.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 02:44 AM (vQPpd)

622 Eh,

I am sure that you are sooper deadly Stevie!

You're like a cop and stuff up in Maricopa, arent'cha?

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:45 AM (QG3g9)

623 The BH has decreed that the project du jour is the front door. It's a worthy project -- when we moved in 15 years ago, we had it prepped and sanded while we had lots of workers about......but we never applied the paint because we needed it to block the front entrance while we slept/went to the get supplies/whatever. So it's been the color of when we bought it, sanded, for years and years. Doesn't match anything (we painted the house).




Problem is, tomorrow's the only day it's not supposed to rain. So I need to jump all over it tomorrow, or just blow it off.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 02:47 AM (kaalw)

624 Two significant studies have been done on this quesion, "Who's more stupid on economics, conservatives or liberals?" They've been based on accumulated and ongoing results from the Pew Foundation's polls. Answer, by a country mile: "Liberals are economic RETARDS." Not surprising given the psychology and belief system of the Left. Their world can't happen in this one. They deny this one. And you knew it all along, didn't you, Christians? Who stand accused by these cretins for believing in Flying Spaghetti Monsters and so forth? You are the last ones surprised.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 26, 2012 02:51 AM (WcgMM)

625 Do it tomorrow Cthlulu!

It's been hanging around, niggling at you for so long it will be extra satisfying to accomplish.

Also, you can take pictures of your fine door just in time for the Holiday Newsletter!

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 02:54 AM (QG3g9)

626 Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 02:44 AM (vQPpd)



====


Not in agreement. To me, it all comes down to just one question: who owns your life? Murder is wrong because it is taking a life you don't own. Slavery is wrong because it is siphoning off a life you don't own.


Morality doesn't have to be time honored, or traditional in any form. There is a simple way to check the morality of any issue --- would you still be for a law/policy/activity whether or not it is being done (or has to be done): a) for you, b) by you, or c) to you? Note that almost all leftists tend to fail this test at almost every turn. Note that socons and libertarians rarely do.


In the end, socons create a problem that is very difficult to overcome -- the biggest problem with leftists if they tend to favor a society without any adults and imagine a Big Mommy govt that will take care of everyone. When socons favor Bid Daddy govt that will keep everyone in line, they make the position of leftists seem somewhat plausible.


The voices that point out that history actually included times when people were supposed to grow up are not entirely wrong. Of course, there are multiple sides to the point, including:


a) in the mid 19th century, a person who owned their own body and had the money could buy just about any drug over the counter at practically any age,


b) in the mid 19th century, you might find yourself on trial and see the judge/jury passing white lighting back and forth rather than listening to what you had to say,


c) Carrie Nation and that batch of dingbats did a lot of good and a lot of harm in a lot of ways, and not all libertarians are wrong when they point it out,


d) people who claim to own your decisions about any one part of your life often can't find any reasonable line to stop -- they may not be able to run their own life, but they damn sure can run yours.



Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:01 AM (kfC1R)

627 Someone can be educated, but that doesn't mean they will be useful/productive...there's a Venn diagram lurking there somewhere. Know what? I'm hungry, so off to get my Whopper with cheese fix.

Posted by: model_1066 at November 26, 2012 03:04 AM (E23Tl)

628 Problem is, tomorrow's the only day it's not supposed to rain. So I need to jump all over it tomorrow, or just blow it off.


Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 02:47 AM (kaalw)


====
Ah, a fine chance to cheat. Spray paint, with a topcoat of spray poly. cheating, but fast and dry real quick. enough top coats and you can get a nice deep luster. my preference is semi-gloss, but just depends on what you like.
second cheaters choice for a wood grain look -- linseed oil with plain old ordinary artist oil paint (like bob ross) for color. -- however, be really careful with the rags, cuz they will spontaneously combust. Again, topcoat with spray cans of poly works great.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:06 AM (kfC1R)

629
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at November 26, 2012 12:16 AM (KvKOu) ********** That is awful. I m so sorry for you, your wife, and your wife's little relative.

Posted by: Baldy at November 26, 2012 03:19 AM (opS9C)

630 The Animals' "House of the Rising Sun":

http://youtu.be/bwAw9ThDQmk

Posted by: derit at November 26, 2012 03:20 AM (I88Jc)

631 @jc:

Murder is wrong ...

This is not a moral statement?


To clarify, I disagree with the core philosophy of libertarianism, as I understand them from reading libertarians. I do think we can create a coalition and work together for a limited government.

If men were angels, we wouldn't need gov't. Do you see evidence of angel-hood around you? Was Obama elected by angels? Do those people instantly become angels once the Leviathan is dismantled?


Socons are fighting a cultural war, and politics cannot be neatly seperated from culture. It is a failure of social conservatives that we surrendered education, media and other cultural institutions to leftists, but it does not follow that a surrender of the political institutions would improve our position or achieve our objectives.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 03:20 AM (vQPpd)

632 628
Problem is, tomorrow's the only day it's not supposed to rain. So I need to jump all over it tomorrow, or just blow it off.




Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 02:47 AM (kaalw)


====
Ah,
a fine chance to cheat. Spray paint, with a topcoat of spray poly.
cheating, but fast and dry real quick. enough top coats and you can get a
nice deep luster. my preference is semi-gloss, but just depends on what
you like.
second cheaters choice for a wood grain look -- linseed
oil with plain old ordinary artist oil paint (like bob ross) for color.
-- however, be really careful with the rags, cuz they will spontaneously
combust. Again, topcoat with spray cans of poly works great.



Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:06 AM (kfC1R)


When we moved into the place, in '97, there was a plan. Exterior walls were Behr's "New England Grey" in flat and exterior doors were Behr's "Provincetown" in satin (or v-v for the colors, I don't remember). Trim was "Pine Tree" or some such.....but when we re-roofed, the gutters got done in a different green.

So, now, there are a few problems: (1) Behr had to switch colorants and bases because of California anti-VOC regs; (2) sunbleached colors don't match new colors; (3) old green trim and gutters are different; (4) some of the "touch-up" paints we have are over a decade old.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:30 AM (kaalw)

633 Socons are fighting a cultural war, and politics
cannot be neatly seperated from culture. It is a failure of social
conservatives that we surrendered education, media and other cultural
institutions to leftists, but it does not follow that a surrender of the
political institutions would improve our position or achieve our
objectives.


Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 03:20 AM (vQPpd)

====
socons are losing a cultural war, and in no small part because they refuse to accept good allies.
libertarians can reach leftists, if given a real chance. when a libertarian is explaining life to a dipshit leftist, it usually all boils down to -- "you know son, your biggest problem is that you are just refusing to grow the fuck up." -- And, while that attempt to reach the moonbat is going on, there is usually some socon that comes along and gets in the way of the explanation and condemns the libertarian for giving it a try.
food for thought -- real adults, that take full responsibility for the ownership of their own lives -- maybe, just maybe, are not the people that concern you.


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:36 AM (kfC1R)

634 It is becoming very difficult to comment here after 200 comments or so. On Firefox, I get a spinning wheel indicating that the blog is still loading. No comments are possible while that is going on.

That goes on for a long time. Finally, I quit Firefox and reboot the blog and now I am able to comment. Whatever...

The basic issue is that we will never again see a candidate for limited government. The reason is that such a candidate will never again be elected. The locusts have won. Let them have their victory. It will be short lived. After that, who knows? Not me.

Posted by: navybrat at November 26, 2012 03:37 AM (r1ty1)

635 After that, who knows? Not me.

It'll be smaller government, one way or another.

Posted by: Methos at November 26, 2012 03:39 AM (hO9ad)

636 So, now, there are a few problems: (1) Behr had to
switch colorants and bases because of California anti-VOC regs; (2)
sunbleached colors don't match new colors; (3) old green trim and
gutters are different; (4) some of the "touch-up" paints we have are
over a decade old.


Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:30 AM (kaalw)


===
fine candidate for artist colors in an oil (linseed or other) base. Your ability to control color will have very few limits. Go bob ross on the damn thing, but don't you dare say anything about "happy little trees."
But, careful with the rags !!!

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:40 AM (kfC1R)

637 Ah, a fine chance to cheat. Spray paint, with a
topcoat of spray poly. cheating, but fast and dry real quick. enough top
coats and you can get a nice deep luster. my preference is semi-gloss,
but just depends on what you like.
second cheaters choice for a wood
grain look -- linseed oil with plain old ordinary artist oil paint (like
bob ross) for color. -- however, be really careful with the rags, cuz
they will spontaneously combust. Again, topcoat with spray cans of poly
works great.



Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:06 AM (kfC1R)


Thing is, the door is the wrong color in the first place. And it has an engraved doorknocker that says "Graves" -- which was the family who lived here in the 80's (there was a major remodel in 1986). One of the parts to this project is replacing the doorknocker -- we're kind o' thinking this one http://tinyurl.com/c2bev4j engraved with either "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" or "Iä!
Iä!
Cthulhu fhtagn!"

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:45 AM (kaalw)

638 636
So, now, there are a few problems: (1) Behr had to

switch colorants and bases because of California anti-VOC regs; (2)

sunbleached colors don't match new colors; (3) old green trim and

gutters are different; (4) some of the "touch-up" paints we have are

over a decade old.




Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:30 AM (kaalw)


===
fine
candidate for artist colors in an oil (linseed or other) base. Your
ability to control color will have very few limits. Go bob ross on the
damn thing, but don't you dare say anything about "happy little trees."
But, careful with the rags !!!


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:40 AM (kfC1R)


====
Oh, when your are at the arts/crafts store, don't grab the acrylic paint tubes by mistake. won't mix right.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:46 AM (kfC1R)

639 "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" or "Iä!

Iä!

Cthulhu fhtagn!"


Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:45 AM (kaalw)


====

madness !!

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:48 AM (kfC1R)

640 639
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" or "Iä!
Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!"




Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:45 AM (kaalw)


====

madness !!


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:48 AM (kfC1R)


Yeah....the BH and I are trying to decide which one is better.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:55 AM (kaalw)

641
Yeah....the BH and I are trying to decide which one is better.


Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:55 AM (kaalw)

===
go with the short one. less possibility of misspelling -- ;-))

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:06 AM (kfC1R)

642 641

Yeah....the BH and I are trying to decide which one is better.




Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 03:55 AM (kaalw)

===
go with the short one. less possibility of misspelling -- ;-))


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:06 AM (kfC1R)


We can fix typos before we put it on the door. Here's a pic of hangin' with the homies -- http://___12.imageshack.us/___12/180/___2370z.jpg

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:11 AM (kaalw)

643 OK, that didn't work -- try this: http://tinyurl.com/btehdho

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:13 AM (kaalw)

644 that appears to be an infestation. is there a spray for them?

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:19 AM (kfC1R)

645 >>Morality doesn't have to be time honored, or traditional in any form. There is a simple way to check the morality of any issue --- would you still be for a law/policy/activity whether or not it is being done (or has to be done): a) for you, b) by you, or c) to you? Note that almost all leftists tend to fail this test at almost every turn. Note that socons and libertarians rarely do.

Bullshit.

It is never that simple.

That little fillip at the end was just too fucking pat and self-congratulatory for me to swallow.

Oh, you have a test now?

Also, your preface was a bunch of hand-waving BS, that my Freshman Tutors would have excoriated for bad structure, grammar, and failure of élan, if nothing else before they shredded the argument.

I've been in a lot more scary places than a Don Rag since then.

(But not many!)

I think you are entirely full of shit.



Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 04:27 AM (QG3g9)

646 644
that appears to be an infestation. is there a spray for them?


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:19 AM (kfC1R)


A spray? To attract more?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:31 AM (kaalw)

647 I think you are entirely full of shit.









Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 04:27 AM (QG3g9)


===
and that shall be the last of the conversation for an eternity.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:37 AM (kfC1R)

648 A spray? To attract more?


Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:31 AM (kaalw)

===
do you need more?

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:46 AM (kfC1R)

649 The tough questions in Morality, I find are when they are not about YOU, necessarily...

Would you become a slave to save the human race?

Would you become a slave master to do the same?

Would you submit to save you and yours?

Would you defy and sentence all of your family to sure torture and death?

History says that, on average,you will do whatever it takes to save your own ragged sweet ass.

And if you think that inhumanity, brutality, ignorance and cruelty are an ancient cultural relic that can be overcome by sweet reason & Kumbiyah ...

Current Dictator of North Korea was educated in Swiss boarding schools.

He is fucking younger than I am!

Take a gander at a satellite shot of the Korean Peninsula at night, why don't you?

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 04:47 AM (QG3g9)

650 socons are losing a cultural war, and in no small part because they refuse to accept good allies.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 03:36 AM (kfC1R)


You know, the socons are about to break loose because of the endless, bottomless ration of shit they take on a daily basis from the rest of the "conservative coalition."

The move dooms us all, but I can't blame them for wishing for five fucking minutes of peace and quiet before the end.

What the fuck is it with so-called conservatives, the only people who can tell the truth five times in a row or do math beyond kindergarten levels, and yet you're *obsessed* with cannibalistic self-destruction.

Fucking idiots. Fucking idiots.

It's like you don't even realize you're being set up.

Some goddamned plant like Jeepers or Frum or McCain starts the ball rolling and you can't help yourselves.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 04:48 AM (bxiXv)

651 648
A spray? To attract more?




Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:31 AM (kaalw)

===
do you need more?


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:46 AM (kfC1R)


Need?.....no. Could appreciate more?......Sure! (Note: I have a Halloween Cthulhu plush packed away with Halloween stuff that is not included in this pic.)

Posted by: cthulhu at November 26, 2012 04:51 AM (kaalw)

652 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 04:48 AM (bxiXv)


==


every election there is some ralph reed or jerry falwell sort that claims "we would have won" except their group stayed home. I am not about insulting them. I can let them live in peace for an eternity.


I absolutely know the meaning of MYOB, and I practice it all day, every day. The socons I actually know do that, too. And they help people who need help as long as a person will help themselves, too. Yet, for many, when the subject turns to politics, MYOB goes out the window. To me, that is a damn shame because the MYOB is at the very heart of the ethic that makes it all worthwhile.


I am sorry that you are offended by it. I really am. However, if a few voices lamenting the loss of the MYOB ethic is enough to fracture society there wasn't much left anyway.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:10 AM (kfC1R)

653 I can let them live in peace for an eternity.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:10 AM (kfC1R)


No, no you can't.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:21 AM (bxiXv)

654 The whole point is that it's always people ginning up for a civil war on the right, whether it's provocateurs or bandwagon-jumpers or just people with an ax to grind.

Every damned time.

I mean, everyone says they want to get along, but given an opportunity it's throat-cutting time.

And it so happens damned near every time shit hits the fan it's "how can I blame the SoCons?"

I'm a fucking old-school Libertarian, and I'm sick of that shit. Hell, I don't know that I recognize anyone anymore.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:27 AM (bxiXv)

655 Ah, Merovign, Strong on Your Mountain,

I think that it once was true that the "Evangelicals" were a political force that surprised and scared the shit out of the Progressives.

I think that they also surprised the Conservatives and scared the shit out of Republicans.

I have only been around since the early '70's but I have *watched* a concerted cultural attack against Evangelical Christians as snake handling, barefoot, Tammy Faye Baker, no dancing, Footloose, no dancing, barely literate rubes.

From Chicago.

Didn't buy it when I was 17, don't buy it now.

BUT, if you feel that Gawd put you on this green earth to propagate retarded bullshit about how a woman's body can reject a rapist's seed...

Then do me and everyone else on this planet and DO NOT, I REAPEAT DO NOT RUN FOR US SENATE!

Go back to fucking snake-handling.

Hope you get bit, you ignorant rube!

What did you ever hope to serve but your own vanity, you fool?

Seriously, I think it is a tragedy that Claire got re-elected.

She's such a hateful woman, hated by her constituents but this asshole managed to make himself even more icky than her!

That's fucking amazing.

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 05:29 AM (QG3g9)

656 653
I can let them live in peace for an eternity.



Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:10 AM (kfC1R)



No, no you can't.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:21 AM (bxiXv)


=====
time will tell. If you think having my own opinion within the privacy of my own home is more than they can bear, maybe you are right. doesn't match the people I know IRL
Remember, this whole conversation tonight started with the general assertion that socons don't need libertarians, and the unstated but certainly implied premise that libertarians are somehow a lower form of life than socons. From there you lumped me in with Frum and McCain. Oh well, no one ever said the internet was fair.


Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:30 AM (kfC1R)

657 Remember, this whole conversation tonight started with the general assertion that socons don't need libertarians, and the unstated but certainly implied premise that libertarians are somehow a lower form of life than socons.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:30 AM (kfC1R)


This whole conversation started generations before I was born, and I'm a libertarian.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:33 AM (bxiXv)

658 Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 05:29 AM (QG3g9)

The Republicans can't do tactics at all, but their strategy works.

Given that politics is all tactics, actually running governments is strategic.

Democrats, of course, have brilliant tactics but their strategies are insane.

It's as if the whole game was designed for the worst possible outcome.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:36 AM (bxiXv)

659 Some thing scary? The amount of connecting information your Health Care Provider has at their disposal. It was never about affordable health care , it was about the assimilation of information on the populace.....

Posted by: Clemenza at November 26, 2012 05:40 AM (afx6B)

660 It was never about affordable health care , it was about the assimilation of information on the populace.....
Posted by: Clemenza at November 26, 2012 05:40 AM (afx6B)


It was, is, and always will be about Power and Control. Gathering dirt on you is just a minor tool in the toolbox.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 26, 2012 05:43 AM (bxiXv)

661 >>time will tell. If you think having my own opinion within the privacy of my own home is more than they can bear, maybe you are right. doesn't match the people I know IRL

Who is "they"?

Are THEY listening to you in the privacy of your own home?

What will THEY do to you, once they have decided that they can no longer "bear" you having your own opinion within the privacy of your own home?

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 05:44 AM (QG3g9)

662 Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 05:44 AM (QG3g9)

===


If I have ever been as rude to you as you are to me, I apologize. If not, I have nothing more to say to you.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 05:48 AM (kfC1R)

663 Jc I don't know you personally so don't take it personally. It's not about opinions in your home it's about taking those opinions out for an airing. You OF ALL PEOPLE should not expect people to just silently assent becauae potato.

Bashing people who take endless shit for not being good enough allies and thrn claiming victim status when someone fights back is pure crap.

If anyone should expect a swing back when they come out swinging, it's a Libertarian.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 06:06 AM (8h1F2)

664 >>It's as if the whole game was designed for the worst possible outcome

I guess that as a Gen X-er (whatever the fuck, that's supposed to mean!) I should have been ready for this since about 1997...

Yeah, I'm not!

I spent almost half a decade wresting a fucking education from my Alma.

(She was a Harsh Mistress but fair, I think)

Had a blast! Broke my heart!

Owed TONS!

Still owe...somehow..

And yet, I am now responsible for my 77yr old Dad who lost everything, had his house Foreclosed on,living with him in a fucking trailer and need to pay his $375 Med Sup Payment in addition to all the other household expenses!

I will do what it takes to take care of Dad.

But SRSLY?

I really don't give a fuck.

Why should I?

I'm never going to have my own place again.

No matter if I start making more money, it will all go towards taxes or his care.

I think that I can keep this up, making $$ and being at home for my Dad for about 6 yrs.

I will have to make a lot MORE $$$ over 10 yrs.

I think I might be tired and bankrupt by the time I reach 50...

(Gawd, I hope I drop dead working in the field before then. He comes from a line who tend to pass their Century mark.)

No one will want to date me then!





Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 06:28 AM (QG3g9)

665 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 06:06 AM (8h1F2)



====

Communication is what the receiver assigns -- so let me try to relay how it came out on my end --


you jumped in with something that has been bothering you -- that the socons are getting pushed around, and it was addressed to me. In fact, you said it was "pathetic" and your message read to me as an admonishment to silence.


Now, you have changed my message, which read "socons refuse good allies" into the exact opposite, "that socons are not good enough allies." Further, that I claim victim status. I will table that discussion for now.


Back to the point -- If you are telling me that socons are such fragile little flowers that they cannot exist in a world where someone agrees with them about 85% of most things and 100% of all the most important things, then I can only tell you again that it does not match the people I know in real life. I am related to them, I live with them, I love them, I work with them, and when appropriate I pray with them. They are just not like what you are asserting. They don't quit, and they vote. Neither me, nor anyone else, can have the effect on them that you are suggesting.


If the socons you know are different in that way, then I can only conclude that you and I must travel in very different social circles.



Also, I checked, and I am still a person.



Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 06:31 AM (kfC1R)

666 Let. It. Burn. Sometimes that is the only way someone will learn. They have to live what they wrought.

Posted by: rickb223 Let It Burn at November 26, 2012 06:54 AM (d0Dmj)

667 @666 you have been waiting long for this moment..

Posted by: Clemenza at November 26, 2012 06:55 AM (afx6B)

668 Apologies, jc if I have been rude to you personally.

Was not my intent to engage a flame-war.

Just pushed some buttons in me that might be new to you, older than the sands, and probably trod to death by wiser men than you or I about 400 yrs ago.


Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 07:33 AM (QG3g9)

669 668
Apologies, jc if I have been rude to you personally.



Was not my intent to engage a flame-war.



Just pushed some buttons in me that might be new to you, older than
the sands, and probably trod to death by wiser men than you or I about
400 yrs ago.







Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 07:33 AM (QG3g9)


====
accepted, done, forgiven, and forgotten.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 07:37 AM (kfC1R)

670 Akin could have easily stepped aside. But instead he said God told him to keep running.

Huckabee and other so-cons assisted this decision.

So-cons need to police their own.

Now, Romney's 47% comment didn't help him either, but "legitimate rape" is way worse than 47%.

I think Jindal is on the right track with tone. Tone is important for sales. You cannot seal a deal with a skeptical customer by insulting him. The GOP, myself included, have been taking this taker/maker thing too far. The constant fight against taxes on people who are really making huge amounts of money has been tiring as well. We could have done better by coming out for some taxes, especially those that hurt the left and make the system fairer, and by growing the economy.

It sucks that the electorate wants imaging and PR but its the truth and we have to deal with reality.

Posted by: Sexypig at November 26, 2012 07:56 AM (RhBMQ)

671 Just an example, but how about we ran on this tax platform:


We do not believe in taxing people more who are earning income - they are working for that income.

Instead, we will abolish the tax-free status of municipal bonds. Why should wealthy elitists like John Kerry pay no tax on the interest they earn doing nothing but deploying their inherited wealth, while a surgeon should be taxed for working hard to save lives?

Posted by: Sexypig at November 26, 2012 07:59 AM (RhBMQ)

672 libertarians can reach leftists, if given a real chance. when a
libertarian is explaining life to a dipshit leftist, it usually all
boils down to -- "you know son, your biggest problem is that you are
just refusing to grow the fuck up." -- And, while that attempt to reach the moonbat is going on, there is
usually some socon that comes along and gets in the way of the
explanation and condemns the libertarian for giving it a try.


Sure. Sprinkle in some vulgarity, agree with the leftist principles that condemn unborn to murder, agree that gov't needs to get in the business of recognizing homosexual relationships, and soon you'll make a principled libertarian out of a leftist.

Who is willing to claim the cool "libertarian" label, but still think it's a wonderful idea for the gov't to step in to fix all of life's problems. You let him keep all of his socially leftist principles, after all, on all those "consenting adult" issues.

We have fundamentally different principles, and socons, as conservatives, aren't going to deny their base principles for political gain. You want to convert leftists into libertarians, but you seem to think the existence of socons prevents it. If so, you're on as quixotic a quest as us socons. The MSM will always remind leftists that evil scary socons exist. They will gin up the outrage, manufacture quotes, and all the other things they did this past election.

"Be less scary" isn't practical advice, because it's about the base principles, and the media/educational institutions will frame those principles with a leftist PoV. "Shut up" doesn't work even if you got the socons to do it, because the media will find something. This is the hand we're dealt by life, and I don't see any simple solutions.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 09:42 AM (vQPpd)

673 Also, Tucson Tea-Partiers...

5 fucking years ago, before Gabby was re-elected! I could have told you that Jesse Kelly was an illiterate goon!

Nope!

Tucson Tea Party knows best!

They will vote for any asshole bright enough to print a bumper- sticker but not "slick" enough to get a 14 yr old girl to run spell check!

Posted by: Deety at November 26, 2012 11:01 AM (QG3g9)

674 Jc

If communication is what the receiver assigns, there is no communication.

Tjen again, since you got both my interpretation of your signal and my signal wrong, maybe you're right, there is no communication.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 11:08 AM (8h1F2)

675 What delivered most of these"college educated" states were affluent, white suburban voters. That used to be the backbone of the GOP. The problem is, this demographic is much more secular than it was during say the 1980's.

But because the last few generations haven't experienced "real" liberalism (ie 70% tax rates, rushing inflation, etc) they feel comfortable voting Democrat.

They look at it as a luxury that's worth paying for, like going to a nice restaurant where you over pay for a glass of wine. Yes, Obama might mean a 3% raise in their taxes, but they're not religious and to them , Republicans are the "Church Party".

My problem with the modern SoCon wing is that it's largely now just abstract symbolism on a single issue that's costing us votes. Abortion has about as much of a chance to become criminalized as homosexuality. And don't even get me started on the Akin, Santorum, Huckabee stance regarding rape and abortion. That nonsense easily cost Romney 1-2% nationally.

Social conservatism WAS popular because there were also issues like getting tough on crime, capital punishment, school busing, etc, that appealed to lower income voters; but those issues are now largely irrelevant because "we" won. Now it's 90% abortion, and it to a more secular America, it's costing us heavily.

So why exactly are we losing more and more voters of an issue that's more of a statement of faith than a real issue of public policy? Because when you look at those two lists, the country is only going to look a lot more like the "blue" list than the "red" list.

Posted by: McAdams at November 26, 2012 11:24 AM (1sN+R)

676


If communication is what the receiver assigns, there is no communication.



Hrm, if the first part was true, the sender wouldn't have to say anything at all!

"I take your silence to mean that you are okay with me taking the balance of your bank account for a night of Valurite and pudding."

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 26, 2012 11:25 AM (vQPpd)

677 674
Jc



If communication is what the receiver assigns, there is no communication.



Tjen again, since you got both my interpretation of your signal and
my signal wrong, maybe you're right, there is no communication.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 26, 2012 11:08 AM (8h1F2)

===Yes, communication is what the receiver assigns. I am surprised that you would contend otherwise. Not only is that little chestnut taught in speech classes, it is correct. If you don't think so -- say the following sentence out loud while emphasizing one word at a time:
"I didn't say he hit his wife."
when you emphasize "I" the message really is: I ... (I am not the one that said it, but it was said.)
and similarly:


....didn't ..... (a strong denial that I said it)

....say ... (I didn't say it, but I did accuse him of it in writing)

....he.... (wasn't him, he had his brother hit his wife for him)

.....hit..... (he didn't hit her, but he did throw a bucket of cold water in her face)

....his... (he actually hit his neighbor's wife)

...wife (he left his wife alone but he did hit his mistress).

Body language and tone are usually much more powerful forms of communication than what the sender says or writes.

Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:40 PM (i8c5b)

678 After reflecting overnight, I realized one thing very clearly. I have never advocated prison for socons if they choose to live their life according to their beliefs. The opposite is not true.



Posted by: jc at November 26, 2012 04:55 PM (i8c5b)

679 Massachusetts has so many college graduates because it has so many colleges, and a lot of them never go home. Plus, I'll wager that a lot of those college graduates have degrees in "* Studies" and can't be called truly educated.

Let's try another measure of education. Let's have a look at the average standardized test scores of their high school graduates. See how that works. Also, see how good the Massachusetts schools would do if they had to deal with as many illegal aliens in their schools as Texas does.

Posted by: RonF at November 26, 2012 05:48 PM (l8nW6)

680
This Country died in November.
True it is......so very hard to admit the death.....yet.

Posted by: DOC. at November 27, 2012 12:45 AM (Nape+)






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