Saturday Morning Open Thread

I got nothin'.

Take it, Vic.

Posted by: Andy at 07:09 AM



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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Saturday, November 17, 2012. On this day in 1968 NBC decided that Heidi was a better view than football. Of course that was when pro football was WAS.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:10 AM (YdQQY)

2 How dare they! Medical company cuts 1170 jobs.

http://is.gd/MMMV9q

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY)

3 RINOs are getting ready to sell us out again.

http://is.gd/bKfC7o

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY)

4 But not to be outdone two fascist bastards want the FDA to regulate caffeine. Stand by Morons, you will need a Dr prescription for your morning coffee.

http://is.gd/bKfC7o

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:11 AM (YdQQY)

5 Is this history or an ad? But hey, its OK because it is about brown.

http://is.gd/UiBmKG

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY)

6
Kindle Daily Deal:


Freeman


After the Confederate surrender, Sam--a runaway slave--travels south in search of his wife, the mother of his only child. At the same time, Sam's wife, Tilda, walks at gunpoint with her slave master, a Confederate officer. It's a sweeping and powerful love story set in brutal, constraining times.


I prefer longbows

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:12 AM (YdQQY)

7

DAY 11

1,449 TO GO


Mayans, Marxists and Miscellaneous Meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2012 07:12 AM (XkWWK)

8 obama is a miserable twinkie

Posted by: mallfly at November 17, 2012 07:13 AM (jDjlM)

9 And sorry folks, not much out there today.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:13 AM (YdQQY)

10 4 But not to be outdone two fascist bastards want the FDA to regulate caffeine. Stand by Morons, you will need a Dr prescription for your morning coffee.

http://is.gd/bKfC7o


Now, the war starts.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 17, 2012 07:14 AM (Oso2u)

11 I remeber that game Vic, Mama was making sure we were ready to go to church, we were hem hawing and then it didn`t matter. Yep, we had to go to church Sunday night then too. Mama was the keyboardist and me and brother next to me had to lip synch in the choir. (way before milli vanilli)

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 17, 2012 07:20 AM (SPXcK)

12 RINOs are getting ready to sell us out again. http://is.gd/bKfC7o

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:11 AM


This is the future of the Republicans, thanks to the if-you-can't-beat-'em-join-'em mentality of such intellectual giants as Sean Hannity, Bill Kristol and Poppin' Fresh Morrissey.

People don't want to obey the law? Fine. Surrender to them.

Choom Boy wins by a relative handful of stolen and "disappeared" votes and is now free to finish committing treason, with the help of the usual suspects and a Fifth Column of sellouts.

I thought we were supposed to be guided by principles. Or Something. Instead, so-called conservatism is rushing headlong into the Surrender Monkey phase.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 07:20 AM (yKUrR)

13 A little science for a very cold morning...
1. [Observations show] The temperature rise begins at sea level and spreads gradually to the land and atmosphere several months later. This is contrary to the IPCC CO2 hypothesis that atmospheric CO2 controls land and ocean temperature.
2. The geographical distribution of a CO2 increase doesn't start at 30-50 degrees North latitude, which one would expect if the source were mainly created by the fossil fuel industry and transport in the Northern Hemisphere. Instead, the increase of CO2 starts just south of the equator. This is contrary to the IPCC hypothesis that use of fossil fuels is the primary cause of increased CO2 levels.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 17, 2012 07:21 AM (feFL6)

14
Folks might have missed this, but Boehner had a challenge for election as House Speaker. Representative Gohmert put Newt Gingrich's name in nomination.

Newt failed to get a second.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 07:22 AM (kdS6q)

15 When "Old Horseface" is confirmed as Sec State, you will know that the Republicans have completely prostrated themselves.

That will be the tipping point at which, if you have not built a bomb shelter, it will have been too late.

Also buy stock in The Ronco Pocket Face Stretcher

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at November 17, 2012 07:22 AM (diNvQ)

16 Mornin'!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 17, 2012 07:22 AM (UTq/I)

17 Oops, dropped the conclusion...

"One should therefore consider moving the focus of climate research from CO2 to the nature and significance of natural variation, both related to the sun and other [natural causes]. It is most likely where we will find the main reason for the present (and future) climate change."

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 17, 2012 07:22 AM (feFL6)

18 @11: Daddy sang bass, right?

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at November 17, 2012 07:24 AM (diNvQ)

19 The only things in my life I want regulated are my bowel movements.

And I don't need the government for that. However I will be happy to send them the results.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2012 07:27 AM (XkWWK)

20 15 When "Old Horseface" is confirmed as Sec State...
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at November 17, 2012 07:22 AM (diNvQ)



Sarah Jessica Parker?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2012 07:28 AM (XkWWK)

21 Any chance fo avoid a circular firing squad today? I am off to hunt christmas presents today online. Fuck rubbing shoulders w the great often unwashed masses, I'm shopping either nude or partially clothed this morning.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 17, 2012 07:29 AM (VrVBw)

22 Twinkies are going for upwards of $50/box on eBay (from reputable sellers).

Posted by: Leon Trotsky's Ghost at November 17, 2012 07:29 AM (pkkxZ)

23
Central New York district attorney Marc Suben admits to '70s porn star past

Democrat apologizes for screwing voters by lying about his past, claims he's victim of political rival's campaign to discredit him

Daily News

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 07:29 AM (kdS6q)

24 "When "Old Horseface" is confirmed as Sec State"

I thought they wanted him for SecDef?

Posted by: Leon Trotsky's Ghost at November 17, 2012 07:30 AM (pkkxZ)

25 This is contrary to the IPCC hypothesis that use of fossil fuels is the primary cause of increased CO2 levels.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 17, 2012 07:21 AM (feFL6)


The IPCC hypothesis is that taxes begin and end in the United States. The Democrat hypothesis is that there is never a tax too broad or too high.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:31 AM (YdQQY)

26 I will seriously go full-scale fucking Rambo if they fuck with my coffee. I'll have my own chapter in the next "Encyclopedia of American Serial Killers"

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:32 AM (9ScGj)

27 Vic, is this the caffeine regulation article you were referring to?

http://tinyurl.com/avnkgw9

Your link points to the DREAM act stuff

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 07:34 AM (d/5qf)

28 Going to the gun show today! Yay me!

Posted by: Manolo at November 17, 2012 07:35 AM (PttbO)

29 Vic, is this the caffeine regulation article you were referring to?

http://tinyurl.com/avnkgw9

Your link points to the DREAM act stuff


Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 07:34 AM (d/5qf)

Yes, sorry I screwed up.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)

30
Central New York district attorney Marc Suben admits to '70s porn star past

Democrat apologizes for screwing voters by lying about his past, claims he's victim of political rival's campaign to discredit him

Daily News


Let me see if I have this right: Idiot Dim (BIRM) admits to being a pr0n star, which, last time I checked, was pretty much voluntary. His past (that he was trying to hide) is revealed and he accuses his rival, when it was he who participated, and therefore made the decision to enter the pr0n industry.

So, said Idiot Dim is completely blameless, and it's his opponent who's the bad guy? Sounds like a sex addict to me, and now he's trying to screw the public, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 07:39 AM (lOmbq)

31 "Israel bombards Gaza with more than 180 airstrikes overnight leaving at least six dead and dozens more wounded after rocket strikes Jerusalem"


http://tinyurl.com/c9hqhfd

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:40 AM (9ScGj)

32 Sarah Jessica Parker?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2012 07:28 AM (XkWWK)


Ooh. She'd be good.

"Hey Achmadinijiad, the sun'll come out tomorrow.....sing it with me....bet your bottom dollar..."

Posted by: Opus An Arcus at November 17, 2012 07:42 AM (diNvQ)

33 Kim Kardashian tweeted "Pray for Israel" and was slammed hard by her "fans" and had to apologize.

This is our popular culture

Posted by: thunderb at November 17, 2012 07:42 AM (Dnbau)

34 What these anthropogenic caused catastrophic global climate change idiotsdon`t realize is that we were at a point to where notmuch lower atmospheric co2 levels would no longer support plant life.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 17, 2012 07:42 AM (SPXcK)

35 Seriously 50 Bucks for Twinkie's ? (IDIOTS)

I'm sure some company will buy the recipe and the rights to make all the hostess products again...

To go along with Vic/ ChemJeff caffeine article , there is also talk in Washington to issue License to Smoke Cigarettes...

We'll all be smokin when S.M.O.D. arrives...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 07:44 AM (XIsD/)

36 De-lurking for a second to complain.

I am tired already of GOP "stars" crapping all over Romney because he told the truth about King Barack the Apostle essentially buying votes with government cheese. This is what has happened. There are a whole hell of a lot of people out there that want free shit. Some of those folks may be struggling to find a job or whatnot, and that's fine. But there are still a huge number of folks that just want someone else to take care of them. And I know because I have psycho relatives (and their quite large circle of welfare queen friends) that are exactly that. They want someone else to have to pay for their lives and it's not fair that the can't be paid to sit on their asses all day and play XBox. I'm not joking, either.

Can we really not acknowledge this? Romney was not my first choice but damn it he did his best to try and appeal to the best in people and was rejected in favor or taxing someone else to keep the checks coming. I know some of these "stars" are trying to prop up an electoral career for themselves so they can't go out and start yelling about the free shit armyin this terms. But do they really have to piss all over Romney for telling the truth?

Gaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Ok, I feel better now.

/lurk on

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (qFpRI)

37 Tonight the multi-state lottery Powerball is worth $213 million. In these QE 3 days that should still buy you a Twinkie the size the Manhattan.

Take it Egon!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (oZsll)

38 30
Let me see if I have this right:

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 07:39 AM (lOmbq

..and more of today's late-breaking-ass-backwards -dem-world-view news: Hostess got Bained and Israel is firing on poor, defenseless Palestinians.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (53riN)

39 "82-year-old man sentenced to three years in prison after his dog killed a cat as he was taking it for a walk."

I know some of you morons love the pussies, but this is ridiculous. Cats are disposable....on par with a goldfish won at the carnival.

http://tinyurl.com/cfwdvv7

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (9ScGj)

40 I can open the local paper and see 2 or 3 ads for FREE KATS any day of the week... disposable ...Yep !

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 07:50 AM (XIsD/)

41 Insty has a link to a newspaper from Bangor, Maine. Idiot Hostess workers think they won by dragging the company under.

Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2012 07:50 AM (g3jwX)

42
..and more of today's late-breaking-ass-backwards -dem-world-view news: Hostess got Bained and Israel is firing on poor, defenseless Palestinians.

I'd really like to see and hear more of a stink raised about Gaza rockets being launched from playgrounds next to schools.

I'm guessing that the IDF Traffic Enforcement will be working overtime this weekend.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 07:51 AM (lOmbq)

43 WARNING: Reading the following headline my cause cerebral bleeding. Proceed at your own risk.

"Petraeus and Allen 'asked' Jill Kelley to wade into diplomatic row over Hulk Hogan sex tape husband's threat to deep fry a Koran"

Yes, it's real....

http://tinyurl.com/bpwgw8h

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:53 AM (9ScGj)

44 3 RINOs are getting ready to sell us out again.

http://is.gd/bKfC7o




I am starting to detect a pattern.

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at November 17, 2012 07:53 AM (HNn1q)

45 Into work this morning, ski season is starting up, have to do the groomer orientation this morning. Staying with my plan $100/payday ammo and kerosene lamps this time. Need to look at water system probably get new pitcher pump one I have is old old. LIB

Posted by: NativeNH at November 17, 2012 07:53 AM (YenUM)

46 @11: Daddy sang bass, right?
Posted by: Opus An Arcus at November 17, 2012 07:24 AM (diNvQ)

No, on Sunday nights he brought us there, sat in the back pew un til all eyes were forward, left and came back to pick us up. He made a showing you see.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 17, 2012 07:54 AM (SPXcK)

47 Also, I am not falling for your kindle ploy that draws one into a position of weakness that your opponent uses to cause exceptional damage to your forces!

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at November 17, 2012 07:55 AM (HNn1q)

48 A deep fried a Koran is still a Koran , Just like when you deep fry a Turkey ...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 07:58 AM (XIsD/)

49 [England] "Dementia sufferer, 77, sent home in freezing weather wearing just an open-backed gown and with a tube still in her arm."

Isn't socialized medicine grand. Can't wait!

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:59 AM (9ScGj)

50 Breaking news.

Trumpka is forming a LLC to purchase Hostess to be run by and for the Unions. He himself will be President and CEO and CFO. All employees including management are to be UNION. All suppliers to be strictly UNION shops. He projects making 11venty kabillion dollars the first year.

Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2012 08:01 AM (kbpWz)

51 How many ever thought they'd see the words, "General Petraeus, Hulk Hogan, sex tape, deep fried and Koran" all in the same sentence?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:01 AM (9ScGj)

52 Can we really not acknowledge this? Romney was not my first choice but damn it he did his best to try and appeal to the best in people and was rejected in favor or taxing someone else to keep the checks coming. I know some of these "stars" are trying to prop up an electoral career for themselves so they can't go out and start yelling about the free shit armyin this terms. But do they really have to piss all over Romney for telling the truth? Gaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Ok, I feel better now. /lurk on
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (qFpRI)

Right there with you Mandy.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 17, 2012 08:02 AM (SPXcK)

53
Meanwhile, over at HA, Conservative Blogger of the Year and The Rock of The Right opines on the Hostess bankruptcy:

"it’s impossible to say whether the unions or the company has been unreasonable in this dispute, or whether it might be a blend of both, as is usually the case."

Ed Morrissey

"Update: Like I said, I haven’t paid much attention to this fight, so I don’t have a lot of insight into whether labor or management has been more unreasonable."

Ed Morrissey



Yep. it's just that kind of decisive analysis and ideological clarity that's going to get us thru the next four years....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:02 AM (kdS6q)

54
Breaking news.

Trumpka is forming a LLC to purchase Hostess to be run by and for the Unions

Posted by: Bruce





Would you'd like some loan guarantees to go with that?

Posted by: Obama and Pals

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:04 AM (kdS6q)

55 I think Ed Morrissey pays more attention to the recent Pillsbury dispute...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 08:04 AM (XIsD/)

56 @36

I am tired already of GOP "stars" crapping all over Romney because he
told the truth about King Barack the Apostle essentially buying votes
with government cheese. This is what has happened. There are a whole
hell of a lot of people out there that want free shit.
---

Was having similar thoughts. The circular firing squad/kick 'em when they're down plays into the lefty narrative.

I understand the need to evaluate what needs to be improved for next time, but Romney was being honest about the "47%" and the problem of entitlement mentality.

Instead of bashing Mitt, the GOP could use this as an opportunity to point out how handouts are a massive vote buying scheme and why entitlements keep people enslaved to poverty, debt, and high taxes.

Posted by: willy at November 17, 2012 08:05 AM (kUCQ4)

57 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:02 AM (kdS6q)

Four more years of Obamateurisms!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 08:05 AM (uhAkr)

58
Cracker Jacks will soon be available with a something other than a toy prize — a dose of caffeine.

Frito-Lay has gone on the defensive claiming that their new popcorn product isn’t for kids.

"Cracker Jack'D is a product line specifically developed for adult consumers and will not be marketed to children," spokesperson Chris Kuechenmeister told The Boston Globe in an email. "The package design and appearance are wholly different from Cracker Jack to ensure there is no confusion among consumers."




Snoop Dawg on the box and the prize is a condom....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:07 AM (kdS6q)

59 Just in time for the holidays...perfect for all the morons in your life.


"Gone with the wind! The new odour-eating pants that promise to banish embarrassing smells
Underwear is said to neutralise the smell of flatulence.
Developed for people with digestive problems who suffer excessive wind"



AoSHQ emblem is extra.

http://tinyurl.com/cxu2dos

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:08 AM (9ScGj)

60 53
Ed Morrissey will break the speed of light to publish a denouncement of any conservative at the moment they are simply accused of something in a ginned up attack. Then when it proves out it was all bullshit he stands by his original diatribe.

He is, perhaps, the most ignorant blabbermouth in the innertoobs.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy at November 17, 2012 08:12 AM (+I8Mq)

61 A deep fried a Koran is still a Koran , Just like when you deep fry a Turkey ...
Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 07:58 AM (XIsD/)

Every homeless bitch that got picked up and paid to vote for zip should get a heapin` helpin` servin` of deep fried koran, koran stuffin`, koran tofu turkey, all the sides and a big helping of Bubba Gump size 14 foot up there ass.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 17, 2012 08:12 AM (SPXcK)

62 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:02 AM (kdS6q)

I think Ed's new contract stipulates he gets paid by the word count.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:14 AM (9ScGj)

63 handouts are a massive vote buying scheme and why entitlements keep people enslaved to poverty, debt, and high taxes.

Well yeah but the slaves don't want to be told that they are slaves.

There is a general lack of entrepreneurialism IMO. Romney's plan was all about generating more small business activity, more risk-taking. But if people would rather just work a 9-5 job and not take risks, that plan isn't going to resonate for them. They'll vote instead for more mandates on businesses to provide for them. Which is what happened.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 08:15 AM (d/5qf)

64 Mad Scribbler inbound in 5, 4, 3.....


If he finds out there was a Morrissey-bashing thread and he didn't get an invite he's going to be pissed!

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:17 AM (9ScGj)

65 Deep Fried Koran!!! ROFL. That is hysterical

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 08:17 AM (+qFb7)

66 TWINKIES - R.I.P.

WHAT WILL MEGASAURUS MCCAIN EAT NOW?

EGYPT SENDING LOVE ROCKETS TO ISREAL!

BENGHAZI SHITSTORM GROWING IN STRENGTH!

OBAMA RELECTED THANKS TO COVERUPS AND THE OBAMACOCKSUCKING MEDIA AND NOW THE SHIT STARTS HITTING THE FAN!

LET THE MOTHER FUCKER BURN!

LET THE COMMIE FUCKERS STARVE!


Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 17, 2012 08:18 AM (ovpNn)

67 Mandy, break that de-lurk button. It serves no use.

Romney wasn't my first choice either, but once the system made him the top dog, what else can you do.

Listening to the Monday morning quarterbacks is getting tiresome, I admit.

Posted by: sTevo at November 17, 2012 08:20 AM (VMcEw)

68 @63
Well yeah but the slaves don't want to be told that they are slaves.
---
That's what we're up against. Not only do they not want to be told, the majority of 'em think it's A-ok. That thought process has been ingrained for generations.

Question is, how do we dig out of that hole?

Posted by: willy at November 17, 2012 08:25 AM (kUCQ4)

69 - Romney wasn't my first choice either, but once the system made him the top dog, what else can you do.



Posted by: sTevo
----------------------------------------

Thats the problem with the ' system' - Whoever comes in second the last time gets to be the Republican nominee the
next time...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 08:26 AM (XIsD/)

70 Republican Govermor McDonnell of Virginia wants to raise gas taxes?

And is wavering on Obamacare. More RINO trash

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 08:27 AM (+qFb7)

71 I am sure this has been asked before but I will ask again.
So the house has control of the purse strings or so I am told.
And the Republicans are in control of the house and have been for some time.
And they are in control of the house because people wanted the spending stopped.
Yet they do not stop it, why is this?

My theory is they are either scared of doing something they were elected to do, which is would be stupid.
Or they do not really want to stop it and this fainting outrage of what is going on in Washington is just cover for them.




Posted by: MarkC at November 17, 2012 08:27 AM (D9INj)

72 We sometimes have to remind ourselves that during the American Revolution, about a third of the colonists wanted to remain subjects of the crown, another third wanted to do nothing, and only the remaining third actually fought for freedom and liberty.

Has anything really changed?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:29 AM (9ScGj)

73 71 I am sure this has been asked before but I will ask again.
So the house has control of the purse strings or so I am told.
And the Republicans are in control of the house and have been for some time.
And they are in control of the house because people wanted the spending stopped.
Yet they do not stop it, why is this?


John Boehner is a coward.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 08:30 AM (uhAkr)

74 no, I don't think Boehner is a coward.

I just don't think he sees himself as an ideologue, but as a "statesman".

It's fine to be a statesman, but he's got to be a statesman with principles, and not just a "statesman" who compromises just for the sake of getting something done.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 08:32 AM (d/5qf)

75 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 08:33 AM (5DR1j)

76 Why am I up this early, you ask? Because Barbeque Ribs take time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 08:33 AM (5DR1j)

77
Meanwhile, in the Golden State:

California submitted its formal application to the federal government this week to run its own health care marketplace, newly dubbed Covered California. Such entities – called exchanges – are the linchpin of Obama's plan because they will deliver subsidized health care to the uninsured and influence the rest of the market starting in 2014.

California is seeking more than $700 million over two years from the federal government to run the state program.

Covered California will serve households earning up to four times the federal poverty level, equal to $92,200 for a family of four in 2012. The federal government will also expand Medicaid – Medi-Cal in California – to residents below 138 percent of the federal poverty guideline, including childless adults who did not have access before.




Gracias rest of the country for paying for our Mexican Medicare system.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:34 AM (kdS6q)

78 Chemjeff, yes he wants to be a statesman with a legacy, just like John Roberts.

The other side, the democrats just want to win

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 08:34 AM (+qFb7)

79 Wonder which will be the first State to withhold Federal tax monies, saying they can better handle the money themselves, which State will follow suite, and the one after. And the landslide will bring you down.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 17, 2012 08:36 AM (SPXcK)

80 California is gone. The people of that state want socialism, the reason they voted for prop 30

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 08:36 AM (+qFb7)

81 Any time a government program ends or is scaled down (which I am sure you have noticed happens once every never), government loses some power. That's true whether you are a republican or a democrap. Therefore, electing people for the expressed purpose of cutting back government is a fool's errand. You might as well hire a guy to cut off his own dick. He may promise to do it, but he won't.

At this point, the more honest politicians-- the leftists from both parties-- are searching for an electorate less interested in dick-cutting. Namely, third world socialists. That's why we are hearing mealy-mouthed skulduggery about caving to amnesty.

See, there is no electoral logic for republicans to get killed by Hispanics and respond by inviting more of them in, unless they are re-writing their résumé to appeal to Hispanics.

Craven, venal, and shameless. Almost as if you need to be a sociopath to be successful at the highest level in politics.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 08:36 AM (I2LwF)

82 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 17, 2012 08:34 AM (kdS6q)

Think China would give us $16T for CA? ....but they have to keep the illegals and the libs.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:38 AM (9ScGj)

83 California is seeking more than $700 million over two years from the federal government to run the state program.



I don't mind CA having a socialist empire. But I do mind having to pay for it in SC.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 08:38 AM (YdQQY)

84 Allen, you smoking them, or just giving the time to marinate?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:39 AM (9ScGj)

85 why entitlements keep people enslaved to poverty, debt, and high taxes.

Don't agree with the last part about taxes. They pay just about zero in taxes. Taxes are for Republicans to pay. They don't care if taxes go through the stratosphere as long as someone else pays them and they reap the reward of other peoples work through entitlement programs.

Empathy is a one way street for them, a street that runs right to their front mailbox, where that check better be waiting.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 17, 2012 08:39 AM (feFL6)

86 Regarding the criticism of Romney by the people who were NOT the candidate:

1. I have a very clear memory of Jindal chiming right in with Blanco and Nagin over the failure of Washington (aka President Bush) to provide immediate massive amounts of help to Louisiana afterKatrina. He was standing right there on an aiport tarmac with them at a news conference.)

2. Newt Gingrich criticizes Romney for the "gift" comment, after he spent all year calling Obama the "Food Stamp President" is just ridiculous.

3. Chris Christie, telling us we need to be inclusive after smash-mouthing teachers unions for fun and popularity, is as asinine as the other two.

All 3 of these men are demonstrating media suck-upishness, cowardice, and groveling to the mob. I won't be interested in any of their candidacies.

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 17, 2012 08:40 AM (GoIUi)

87 Would you'd like some loan guarantees to go with that?

Posted by: Obama and Pals

Only if it doesn't stretch the budget. That would be very nice and totally unexpected of you. Thanks for thinking of me.

Richie (dick) Trumpka

Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2012 08:41 AM (kbpWz)

88 Also, regarding Obama voters, it is wise to remember that a certain number of them used to be hard-working taxpayers who are trapped. If you live in a small town in southern Ohio and worked in a coal mine which is closed, all you have is unemployment and an EBT card.

It's impossible to sell a house in one of those towns. They can't easily relocate to areas where they might have a chance at a job. They are not skilled in anything except mining and related construction work, and don't have the education to train in something like computers or medical tech stuff.

They are looking at hungry kids and the thought of losing that small amount of help is truly frightening. Those people are scared, not lazy.

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 17, 2012 08:45 AM (GoIUi)

89 Is anybody at the GOP going thru the voter rolls and compiling all the name of people who didn't vote this time? To call them and ask them WTF?

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 08:45 AM (bUWh3)

90 I think I will turn my attention to state politics, I am starting to think this is the last hope for America.
If you are in a predominantly red state, there may be some small chance to get them to stand up and stop this nonsense.
We are being sold out by those we have elected at the National level.
Other then the states standing up for us, the only other hope we have is a collapse, although there is no guarantees that we come out of that with the Constitution, could be we are are just screwed.


Posted by: MarkC at November 17, 2012 08:45 AM (D9INj)

91 The GOP needs to use the Dem playbook for 2016. Start taking out the left's big hitters politically before 2016.

Destroy Hillary on Libya, Cory Booker and Deval Patricke, Mark Warner etc... damage them now.

In 2008 , Reid knew that GOP rep Porter of Nevada would beat him in 2010, so he made sure he lost his seat in 2008.

It is never too early

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 08:47 AM (+qFb7)

92 89 Is anybody at the GOP going thru the voter rolls and compiling all the name of people who didn't vote this time? To call them and ask them WTF?


There's no money in it. So, no.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 08:48 AM (I2LwF)

93 The GOP Governors who implement Obamacare exchanges are finished for 2016 and maybe 2014

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 08:49 AM (+qFb7)

94 "If you are in a predominantly red state, there may be some small chance to get them to stand up and stop this nonsense.
We are being sold out by those we have elected at the National level."

The problem we have here is that we (FL) are a moderately red state, and our state elections bear this out, but there is so much bullcrap going on in South Florida that I think we are forever screwed. Amendments that should have passed EASILY here were all shot down. And then looking at what's going on with Allen West down in the southern partof the state makes me think there is a hell of a lot of electoral corruption in the D dominated counties.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 17, 2012 08:53 AM (qFpRI)

95 Watched "The Man With the Iron Fists"....total piece of shit...and I love cheesy martial arts flicks.

....and when in the hell did Russell Crowe start looking like Michael Moore?

"Strength and honor! ....and cheesecake"

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:54 AM (9ScGj)

96 2 hours and we don't have 100 comments yet??? Where is everyone at?

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 08:56 AM (YdQQY)

97 96
2 hours and we don't have 100 comments yet??? Where is everyone at?


Posted by: Vic
-----------------------------------------
What are we ? Chopped Liver ?

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 08:57 AM (XIsD/)

98 Well, there wasn't 10 FIRST! comments, so we got that going for us.

Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2012 08:57 AM (kbpWz)

99 Hell I figured #10 was worth 100 comments by itself.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 08:58 AM (YdQQY)

100 Well, there wasn't 10 FIRST! comments, so we got that going for us.


Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2012 08:57 AM (kbpWz)

That BS should be an automatic banning offense.

Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 08:58 AM (YdQQY)

101 100!

Posted by: Boots at November 17, 2012 08:59 AM (neKzn)

102 Sorry Vic....I couldn't even get a rise out of anyone with 'fart-proof underwear'....that should have been solid gold around these parts.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:59 AM (9ScGj)

103 @94
I am in Kansas so we are pretty much overlooked, since we do not matter much in the grand scheme of things.

Posted by: MarkC at November 17, 2012 08:59 AM (D9INj)

104 Paper shred event today for our subdivision. 35 student volunteers stepped forward to help out.

We needed just 6 - 8. Maybe there is still hope in the youngsters?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2012 09:00 AM (BAS5M)

105 94. Agreed, and the corruption started in 2000

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:01 AM (+qFb7)

106
"Strength and honor! ....and cheesecake"
Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:54 AM (9ScGj)

Ok I'll comment on that. LOL

Good morning Rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 09:01 AM (3Y7RV)

107
That BS should be an automatic banning offense.

Hey, hey, Hey now. That was Small Gangrenous Obloid's schtick.

Besides, being Foist! is one small victory in my otherwise funemployed day. Over what, I don't know. It's one of the few nice things we can have here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:02 AM (lOmbq)

108 It would have been nice if Allen West had A couple of more years under him and then he could have challenged TFG on TFG's on terms.

Posted by: sTevo at November 17, 2012 09:02 AM (SLhOh)

109 "35 student volunteers stepped forward to help out."

Student volunteers? On a Saturday? ...something is up - you better keep an eye on them.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 09:02 AM (9ScGj)

110 104 Paper shred event today for our subdivision. 35 student volunteers stepped forward to help out.

We needed just 6 - 8. Maybe there is still hope in the youngsters?
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2012 09:00 AM (BAS5M)


Maybe they're being paid $100 for every SSN they find.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 09:03 AM (3Y7RV)

111 This morning, the "paper" included an editorial in favor of some "No Labels" movement. Because I am curious and masochistic, I looked at the website and found this:

"No Negative Campaigns Against Incumbents

"The Problem

"Imagine one of your co-workers tries to get you fired on Monday. He fails. You keep your job. On Tuesday, you're forced to sit down with that same co-worker to figure out your department's budget for the next year. You'd probably come into that meeting bitter, angry and not exactly primed for problem solving.

"This is the dynamic that exists when incumbent members of Congress actively campaign against incumbents from another party. When one member starts aggressively working for another's defeat, it destroys the trust that is so necessary to get anything done.

"In years past, there were informal customs that discouraged this. For example, it was frowned upon for one party leader to campaign against a leader of the opposite party. But those customs have been ignored over the last decade, which has set off a cycle of mistrust and retribution that has been difficult to stop."

They also think they can make Congress and the president have a "question time" like the Brit PM. They seem not to have heard of separation of powers. Besides, can you imagine the SCOAMF trying to do that?

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 17, 2012 09:03 AM (gvVlx)

112 Forgot: http://www.nolabels.org/work#ways

Posted by: Tonestaple at November 17, 2012 09:04 AM (gvVlx)

113 Posted by: sTevo at November 17, 2012 09:02 AM (SLhOh)

I don't think that's the last we'll be seeing of Allen West.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 09:04 AM (9ScGj)

114 They are looking at hungry kids and the thought of losing that small amount of help is truly frightening. Those people are scared, not lazy.

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 17, 2012 08:45 AM (GoIUi)

Fear is to greed as carrot is to stick. Negative and positive forces to compel a desired result. Each force is powerful on its own, and doubly so when applied together.

For such a celebrated Lightworker, Obama certainly has a keen grasp on the moral levers of human weakness.

Posted by: Artemus Khan, Supervillain-Billionaire-Layabout at November 17, 2012 09:04 AM (k1vsl)

115 Wow. Washington State Senate is only 26-22 Dem? There are rumours that 3 mod dems will switch to help thwart uber marxist Inslee in 2013

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:04 AM (+qFb7)

116 Oops.

Oh well, since I'm too lazy to read all the comments first, has anyone here picked up on the link at Instapundit, which goes to ZeroHedge, which goes into detail about the teamsters/private equity deal over at Hostess?

Apparently the private equity that bailed out Hostess in both of their travels through bankruptcywere/are democrats. Big dems, with connections to Richard Gephardt, who himself had big connections to the teamsters (Gephardt's father was a teamster).

So for Trumka to get all pissy about Bain and Romney, when Trumka knows perfectly well that it's dems to blame for this mess, well, it's like everything else with this administration, the balls on these guys.

That also explains why the teamsters decided to settle for whatever offer Hostess made, and get back to work. They knew things the idiot bakers union refused to accept.


Posted by: Boots at November 17, 2012 09:05 AM (neKzn)

117 The CPSC is trying to ban magnets. Yes....magnets.

http://tinyurl.com/cy2926d

Fucking Nazis.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 09:06 AM (GsoHv)

118 I couldn't even get a rise out of anyone with 'fart-proof

Call me when they get to shart prevention.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2012 09:07 AM (MOWP1)

119
"No Negative Campaigns Against Incumbents"

Solution to The Problem: A sound thrashing of aforementioned asshole cow-orker. Fix budget alone, since AAC is probably a Leftard who has only his own interests at heart, not the company's.

Some folks just need a good ass-whuppin' occasionally.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:07 AM (lOmbq)

120 88 Also, regarding Obama voters, it is wise to remember that a certain number of them used to be hard-working taxpayers who are trapped. If you live in a small town in southern Ohio and worked in a coal mine which is closed, all you have is unemployment and an EBT card.

It's impossible to sell a house in one of those towns. They can't easily relocate to areas where they might have a chance at a job. They are not skilled in anything except mining and related construction work, and don't have the education to train in something like computers or medical tech stuff.

They are looking at hungry kids and the thought of losing that small amount of help is truly frightening. Those people are scared, not lazy.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 17, 2012 08:45 AM (GoIUi)



..and what percentage has been voting for FreEsHiT!!!111!!! for the last 30 years?

Pfffftttt.

Don't. Care.

Get it from the new Socialist Overlords you have been voting for or, better yet, the useless Union you belong to.

......or did.

Sorry. Like sven, I am completely out of give a fuck.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 17, 2012 09:08 AM (Oso2u)

121 Besides, being Foist! is one small victory in my
otherwise funemployed day.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:02 AM (lOmbq


No, it's fucking stupid. You haven't won anything. It isn't a victory. It's annoying to see fourteen idiots all trying to guess what 'number' post they are.

Everybody reading the comments skips over it. It's just spamming a thread with nonsense.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:08 AM (uhAkr)

122 Israel bombards Gaza with more than 180 airstrikes overnight leaving at least six dead

180 shots and only six kills.

1st thought - You're doing it wrong.
Read a little - You're doing it much better than you'll ever get credit for practically everywhere.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2012 09:09 AM (MOWP1)

123 "35 student volunteers stepped forward to help out."

Student volunteers? On a Saturday? ...something is up - you better keep an eye on them.


Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 09:02 AM (9ScGj)

Maybe they are coming for the donut holes and Frito Lay assorted chips we are providing? I don't know. Darn all those honor societies that require X hours of volunteering.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2012 09:09 AM (BAS5M)

124 Posted by: Tonestaple at November 17, 2012 09:03 AM (gvVlx)

I think all these political problems could be resolved if we bring back dueling. "Sir, you have besmirched my honor! I will see you in the Rose Garden at dawn!"


Bonus: The pay-per-view funds generated would pay off our debt in a few months.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 09:09 AM (9ScGj)

125 Re Kim Kardashian, there is seriously some effed up mentality going on in America. All those dopes that would even "follow" her on Twitter....how is it that they've come to loathe Israel to such an extent? The infestation has been made complete in academia. Thirty years ago, this never would've happened. Our citizens are completely propagandized, completely brainwashed. And I'd venture to say that 99% of the fools that follow her wouldn't even be able to tell you where Israel was on the map. If we don't get a hold of education....there's no fixing this train wreck.

Oh, that Guide to Hating Williams-Sonoma from last night's ONT.....hilarious!

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2012 09:10 AM (lTVJy)

126
You haven't won anything.

That explains why my Intarwebz hasn't arrived in the mail yet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:10 AM (lOmbq)

127 No, it's fucking stupid. You haven't won anything. It isn't a victory. It's annoying to see fourteen idiots all trying to guess what 'number' post they are.Everybody reading the comments skips over it. It's just spamming a thread with nonsense.

It's harmless fun. Lighten up, Francis.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 17, 2012 09:12 AM (BAS5M)

128 Ok so its obvious to everyone that we are about to get fucked in this fiscal cliff negotation bullshit.

So why the fuck are we keeping the same leadership that negotiated it and us getting fucked?

Remember all those assholes that said we won on the last round of budget negotiations? Fuck them too.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 17, 2012 09:12 AM (++kZl)

129 116 Oops.

Oh well, since I'm too lazy to read all the comments first, has anyone here picked up on the link at Instapundit, which goes to ZeroHedge, which goes into detail about the teamsters/private equity deal over at Hostess?

Apparently the private equity that bailed out Hostess in both of their travels through bankruptcywere/are democrats. Big dems, with connections to Richard Gephardt, who himself had big connections to the teamsters (Gephardt's father was a teamster).

So for Trumka to get all pissy about Bain and Romney, when Trumka knows perfectly well that it's dems to blame for this mess, well, it's like everything else with this administration, the balls on these guys.

That also explains why the teamsters decided to settle for whatever offer Hostess made, and get back to work. They knew things the idiot bakers union refused to accept.


Posted by: Boots at November 17, 2012 09:05 AM (neKzn)


What does it matter? 85% of FrEeShiT!!!ArmY doesn't read and the TV will not tell them the truth.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 17, 2012 09:12 AM (Oso2u)

130 From what I hear, the Florida House Speaker wanted West gone. His own party did him in, probably with help from Boehner and Cantor. West is a maverick who speaks his mind. GOP does not like thst

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:12 AM (+qFb7)

131 ....and when in the hell did Russell Crowe start looking like Michael Moore?

He's supposed to play Opie Don Wasabi in the new Star Wars

Posted by: Dept of Accuracy at November 17, 2012 09:13 AM (+I8Mq)

132 #120 Well, I am not asking you to be compassionate. I am simply explaining the dynamic.

Frankly, I think that the public has been dumbed down so much they can be frightened or tricked into about anything, even behavior that is counter to their well-being. (Bakers Union and Hostess, example #1.)

I think that a large portion of the population believes in magical thinking, imaginary villains, unicorns, and ever-lasting gobstoppers. They know more about Hogwarts and Twilight vampires than they do about American history or basic economics. A lot more.

My personal thinking is that some of these people can be turned around, but it won't be many and it will take a long time. I am therefore concentrating my efforts on seeing that my grandchildren are able to survive a culture of idiots.

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 17, 2012 09:13 AM (GoIUi)

133 I say we make Israel the 51rst state

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:14 AM (+qFb7)

134 That BS should be an automatic banning offense.


Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 08:58 AM (YdQQY)
Like LGF?No thanks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 09:14 AM (GsoHv)

135 130 From what I hear, the Florida House Speaker wanted West gone. His own party did him in, probably with help from Boehner and Cantor. West is a maverick who speaks his mind. GOP does not like thst
Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:12 AM (+qFb7)

We are fucked until we get new leadership. Obviously we won't. The game is rigged.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 17, 2012 09:14 AM (++kZl)

136 Russell Crowe is a drunken Marxist

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:14 AM (+qFb7)

137 122 Israel bombards Gaza with more than 180 airstrikes overnight leaving at least six dead

180 shots and only six kills.

1st thought - You're doing it wrong.
Read a little - You're doing it much better than you'll ever get credit for practically everywhere.
Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2012 09:09 AM (MOWP1)


Precision....

Precision. Precision.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 17, 2012 09:15 AM (Oso2u)

138
Now that it's been a couple weeks since the JEF managed to weasel his shit stained self back into office, I thought I'd take this opportunity to remind everyone that Madonna threatened/promised to strip naked for her 'fans' if he was reelected.

So...we have that to look forward to. /vomit

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:17 AM (L7hol)

139 Sorry Vic....I couldn't even get a rise out of anyone with 'fart-proof
underwear'....that should have been solid gold around these parts.


If there isn't a hole after I fart...they are fart proof.

Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2012 09:18 AM (kbpWz)

140 1,449 TO GO

Let's not do that.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 17, 2012 09:18 AM (6JMZR)

141 Precision. Precision.

Think Gunny Hathcock

Posted by: Dept of Accuracy at November 17, 2012 09:18 AM (+I8Mq)

142 So, West lost the recount?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 17, 2012 09:18 AM (DoZD+)

143 141 Precision. Precision.

Think Gunny Hathcock
Posted by: Dept of Accuracy at November 17, 2012 09:18 AM (+I8Mq)



There it is....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 17, 2012 09:19 AM (Oso2u)

144 You know all those farmers from Iowa, who voted for Obama due to handouts and subsidies?

Well they are now freaking out due to the new 55% estate tax. Yep you bet shithead farmers who vote freebies over country. Got 10 Million in land? It is now worth 4.5 to your heirs

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:19 AM (+qFb7)

145 Yesterday, Rush was calling Obama "Baraka Claus".

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 17, 2012 09:20 AM (DoZD+)

146 That explains why my Intarwebz hasn't arrived in the mail yet.

That or the Post office lost it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:21 AM (uhAkr)

147 135. The Sec of State in Florida is the most powerful election official in the state. He did nothing to help West

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:21 AM (+qFb7)

148 There are rumours that 3 mod dems will switch to help thwart uber marxist Inslee in 2013

So what is the definition of a Washington State "moderate Democrat"? Someone who only wants to tax the rich at 80%?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 09:22 AM (d/5qf)

149
"it’s impossible to say whether the unions or the company has been unreasonable in this dispute, or whether it might be a blend of both, as is usually the case."




I generally automatically assume the unions are stupid, selfish and evil. Just as I assume when Obama opens his mouth he is lying. My strict standards haven't failed me yet.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 17, 2012 09:22 AM (DoZD+)

150 OMG, there are tears running down my face from the hilarity. That Williams and Sonoma piece in the ont is gold, comedy gold.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 09:22 AM (3Y7RV)

151
Got 10 Million in land? It is now worth 4.5 to your heirs

Many won't be able to pay what the IRS is going to demand. They'll end up selling off land that's been in their family for generations just to pay their tax bills.

Sympathy-wise, my calibrated Give-A-Fuck-O-Meter is twitching around zero. Even moar funnier, the recipients of their forced largesse will still hate them.

Elections/Consequences, how does that shit work?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:23 AM (L7hol)

152
From what I hear, the Florida House Speaker wanted West gone. His own party did him in, probably with help from Boehner and Cantor. West is a maverick who speaks his mind. GOP does not like thst

Startled I was when I discovered that the GOP considered the Tea Party a threat to their power. I really thought they stood for the country and the Founding Principles.

Silly me.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:25 AM (lOmbq)

153 148. Touche. I think two of them are former Republicans who switched. But you are right.

The GOP has not had a Governor in Oregon or Wash since the mid 80's.

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:25 AM (+qFb7)

154 Elections/Consequences, how does that shit work?
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:23 AM (L7hol)
Like a nail studded dildo apparently.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 09:25 AM (3Y7RV)

155
1,449 TO GO



Let's not do that.


Seconded. We get it....JEF was reelected, let's not do a day by day countdown.....please.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:26 AM (L7hol)

156 I think West should take up the offer from Georgia. They will get him a safe house seat, and then he can shine.

Florida will not allow West to run again

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:27 AM (+qFb7)

157 As we mostly do here, assume the government is going to steal us blind and nothing of our life savings or hard work will be left. Nothing will be left to pass on to our children and we MAY have enough to survive.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 17, 2012 09:28 AM (DoZD+)

158 Here the GOP have a intelligent, Black, Military officer, and then get rid of him by redistricting his seat

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 09:28 AM (+qFb7)

159 Many won't be able to pay what the IRS is going to demand. They'll end up selling off land that's been in their family for generations just to pay their tax bills.

We should talk. I can fix you right up. Call me.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Life Insurance Salesman, Ned Ryerson at November 17, 2012 09:29 AM (BAS5M)

160 >>>President Barack Obama consulted with MSNBC host Al Sharpton, who's also
assicated with the National Action Network (NAN), about the fiscal
talks between the White House and Congress.<<<

These must be the talks where they try come up with new and exciting ways to pillage all of that hidden Joo gold.

Posted by: Fritz at November 17, 2012 09:30 AM (mqdAz)

161 Silly me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:25 AM (lOmbq)


We have to take the establishment down through primaries. McConnel and Reid are basically the same person with different cologne. It's that or we lose it all.

The move has already been made by the gop in our four county area. Little cabals with Libertarian leanings are being put together to oust the old guard and to make sure the efforts and money go to candidates that support the constitution. They know it's coming because some of the current County chairs have canceled meetings to try to stave it off.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 09:32 AM (3Y7RV)

162 I didn't realize that Iowa was the only place to have Farmers...

Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 09:33 AM (XIsD/)

163 100
Well, there wasn't 10 FIRST! comments, so we got that going for us.




Posted by: Bruce at November 17, 2012 08:57 AM (kbpWz)

That BS should be an automatic banning offense.


Posted by: Vic at November 17, 2012 08:58 AM (YdQQY)


Oh FFS....Seriously? The blog OWNER has never asked that people not do that but YOU want it a automatic ban?

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 09:34 AM (X6akg)

164
We should talk. I can fix you right up. Call me.

They voted for Obumbles, and moar govt cheese....now they're surprised to find out they'll be footing the bill.

Screw em. Next time I see a family farm in Iowa being auctioned off by the local sheriff I'm just going to laugh.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:35 AM (L7hol)

165
Oh FFS....Seriously? The blog OWNER has never asked that people not do that but YOU want it a automatic ban?
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 09:34 AM (X6akg)

Auto Banning is for out of control blogs. Not self policing like we have here. Yep, I think the first thing is stupid too, only because I have never been first.....

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 09:36 AM (3Y7RV)

166 You got nothin? Get to work Comrade the glorious free riders are counting on you.

Posted by: Socialist Utopia at November 17, 2012 09:36 AM (Kflw4)

167 Oh FFS....Seriously? The blog OWNER has never asked that people not do that but YOU want it a automatic ban?

Well, it's stupid.

And the blog owner lets people post their opinions here.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:37 AM (LnQr8)

168 Blasting a new tune this morning: http://tinyurl.com/994bkdj

Bon Scott, is that you?

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 17, 2012 09:38 AM (s/PhC)

169 So for Trumka to get all pissy about Bain and Romney, when Trumka
knows perfectly well that it's dems to blame for this mess....That also explains why the teamsters decided to settle for whatever offer Hostess made, and get back to work


Trumka severely dissed the Teamsters with that statement. Essentially, he said the Teamster's money men/accountants were lying, when obviously they weren't.

Trumka is a retard. There will be internal blowback...perhaps extreme internal blowback if he's viewed as too much of a liability.

I would not be shocked if Trumka joins Jimmy Hoffa in the future.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 09:38 AM (7+lne)

170 How about the online Conservative blogging community starts working to pick the anti establishment Conservative candidate right now so that when Primary time rolls around we don't have a big fight but instead just steam roll the establishment candidate?

How about we start trying to build a full paid professional GOTV machine just like the Left has?

How about we start raising money to hire paid protesters to go after anti conservative businesses. Pick some weak ones that are easy targets that will fold under the pressure rather quickly and build momentum that way? Maybe start with advertisers on NBC.

How about we organize a ready reaction force for buycotts like what happened with Chick fillet (sp).

But for GODS SAKE let us start to DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE rather then just sitting here with our thumbs up our collective fucking asses and whining about it. Because you know what, for all the whining we do about the left being a bunch lazy ass takers they sure as hell are motivated enough to get up off their asses and beat us at elections so they can take our shit in the first place!!!!!!

Posted by: southdakotaboy at November 17, 2012 09:40 AM (ZIWkB)

171 Well, it's stupid.



And the blog owner lets people post their opinions here.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:37 AM (LnQr

Yeah, it's stupid. There's a lot of stupid stuff posted....skip over it.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 09:42 AM (X6akg)

172 I would not be shocked if Trumka joins Jimmy Hoffa in the future.

----

It would warm my cold heart to see that fat pig wind up taking a long nap in wet cement.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 17, 2012 09:43 AM (lTVJy)

173 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:37 AM (LnQr

172nd!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 09:43 AM (GsoHv)

174 Gona jump on my Indian and go X-Mass shopping for the wife. Any suggestion from the moronetts on what to get the woman who already has everything? Guns, Ammo, emergency food storage, gold, silver, vast qualities of TP, booze (no wait that's me!)

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 09:44 AM (bUWh3)

175 Last night on the Meggie Mac and ONT threads, I asked those who said that the GOP will never win until they drive out the socons;

They still represent a large voting bloc, who are you going to bring in to replace their numbers?

These voters don't tend to be rich. Without the socon platforms, they'll vote for the Free Shit

Then Rove and other geniuses will pat themselves on the back when safe red states become swing states. Imagine having to fight for Alabama and Oklahoma

Posted by: kbdabear at November 17, 2012 09:44 AM (wwsoB)

176 "Yeah, it's stupid. There's a lot of stupid stuff posted....skip over it."

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 09:42 AM (X6akg)


Apparently there is some subsection in the AOSHQ bylaws that requires us to read every single comment and then get in a lather about each silly one.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 09:46 AM (GsoHv)

177 Morning all I need to do emergency surgery on my video card on my other rig...

so I'm on the game room's bulldozer.

Bobby Jindal is a geek...our geek but a geek.

That is all.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 09:46 AM (LRFds)

178
Yeah, it's stupid. There's a lot of stupid stuff posted....skip over it.
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 09:42 AM (X6akg)



Word

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2012 09:46 AM (Rhie+)

179 Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 09:44 AM (bUWh3)

Lingerie.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 09:47 AM (GsoHv)

180 "No Negative Campaigns Against Incumbents"

Imagine you work at a business where your co-worker is lazy, shiftless, and when he does any work, he goes out of his way to destroy your work and sabotage the comapany.

So you bring this up to the management, and it gets back to him, and it just gets worse.

Tuesday, Wednesday, and so forth, every day, he does his level best to leech off you and blame you for his own incompetence.

So the best strategy is, never complain.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 09:47 AM (I2LwF)

181 Totally agree Mandy.. couldn't put it better myself. Repubs are bunch of girly men.. as Ahnold was so fond of saying. At the first sign someone doesn't like them, they fold like a lawn chair. We need people like Allen West who speaks his mind and doesn't apologize for it.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 09:48 AM (u25eL)

182 Ah shit. I was gonna do a joke with the sockpuppet and hit send by accident.

Fuckin' IPhone.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2012 09:48 AM (Rhie+)

183 Tuesday, Wednesday, and so forth, every day, he does his level best to leech off you and blame you for his own incompetence.

It would really be tragic if say...they had some drugs stashed in their office, and they had a flash drive full of kiddie porn in their desk drawer...

...quite tragic.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 09:51 AM (7+lne)

184 First !

Bevel Lemelisk doesn't understand the concept of a running Gag...


Posted by: AmericanDawg at November 17, 2012 09:51 AM (XIsD/)

185 BTW folks.. am seriously mulling over running for the school board in the next election. There-education of our future little commies starts there. Hubby gave his blessing so I am going to research it all out and may just go for it!

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 09:51 AM (u25eL)

186 Would now be a good time to start purging the voter rolls for 2014? While the socialists are still doing their victory laps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 09:52 AM (oZsll)

187
We have to take the establishment down through primaries. McConnel and Reid are basically the same person with different cologne. It's that or we lose it all.

The move has already been made by the gop in our four county area. Little cabals with Libertarian leanings are being put together to oust the old guard and to make sure the efforts and money go to candidates that support the constitution. They know it's coming because some of the current County chairs have canceled meetings to try to stave it off.


That's good to know. It seems as though the Tea Party is alive and well.

And on a completely unrelated note, I've had something stuck in the back of my mind since the election and that's the psychological effect of losing what should've been a blowout for Mitt. I'm still struggling with the notion that there are more Takers than Producers in our country. I just don't believe it. Granted, my circle of friends is rather small, but I don't see it.

Not that I'm into these things, but the possiblity exists that the election was indeed stolen. My primary suspicion is the anti-Christ George Soros' Secretary of State Project. After all, it's who counts the votes that matters. Anyway, the subtle effect of the result of last Tuesday's debacle, coupled with TFG's confidence in his win ("Meddy, I'll have more flexibility after the election") makes me think we've been had.

I don't want to think about what it's gonna take to set this right.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 09:52 AM (lOmbq)

188 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 17, 2012 09:08 AM (Oso2u)

This kind of comment is as stupid and harmful as any of the gaffes by social cons. This isn't conservatism, it's cruelty masquerading as principle. There are always (and especially in an economy like this) people who work hard, pay taxes, and are overcome by larger economic events through no fault of their own. And there are, as Miss Marple pointed out, people who are geographically trapped.

Even Hayek thought governments had to provide some kind of social safety net.

Posted by: Burke at November 17, 2012 09:52 AM (CrqI6)

189 running for the school board in the next election

Gather dirt on the competition. Use it. Make them radioactive.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 09:53 AM (7+lne)

190 186 Anna Puma,

Yup...it'd also be a good time for people to start demanding he south be made equal in voting law to the north.

The games they are playing with Texas redistricting should have us doing our NBPP impresonation.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 09:53 AM (LRFds)

191
Apparently there is some subsection in the AOSHQ bylaws that requires us to read every single comment and then get in a lather about each silly one.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 09:46 AM (GsoHv)


So lace wigs for all, then?

They're useless, uninteresting posts.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:54 AM (49lPc)

192 Versed.

Posted by: Dolph Lundgren at November 17, 2012 09:55 AM (6JMZR)

193 I agree Backwards Boy.. I know alot of people that think we're nuts but I said it for months.. the only way fuckstick wins is if he steals it. Sadly I was right.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 09:55 AM (u25eL)

194 So, what's the betting on whether BHO will actually call it Burma when he's there? My betting is on Myanmar or whatever the Burmese muslims call it, Pock-eee-stahn style....

Posted by: Stephen at November 17, 2012 09:55 AM (2HzUl)

195
Even Hayek thought governments had to provide some kind of social safety net.

We've gone beyond 'safety net', and have entered 'way of life territory'.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:56 AM (L7hol)

196 Anyone advocating throwing socons out of the party is a lib or an idiot. Thinking a significant portion of the FSA is going to flock to the GOP because we decide to embrace abortion or we start leading gay parades is ignorant.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 09:56 AM (9ScGj)

197 193 Jewell45,

I agree it was stolen or at least helped along by fraud.

The thing is it is a lot like Benghazi nobody cares outside the right.

Better to focus on 14 and fucking him up or making O use his machine again in an off year.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 09:57 AM (LRFds)

198 Motto for 2016 - Safety net, not a hammock

Posted by: Ring at November 17, 2012 09:57 AM (iWnmm)

199 Sven, exactly. Having the Dept of Justice still having fiat over the state right of voting is a bit off since we are now 150 years after the Civil War and 60 years after forced desegregation. Even Germany is re-united.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 09:57 AM (oZsll)

200 196 Icedog,

I agree but our leadership has to hammer shit out and kneecap f***ers like Huckadoodle stat.

We need one hymnal come election time and it is not gonna have all the stanzas any subgroup wants.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 09:58 AM (LRFds)

201 Since a lot of morons like self-sufficiency and the bakers' union have taken them away, here's a recipe for home-made Twinkies, via Don Surber:

http://leitesculinaria.com/71100/recipes-homemade-twinkies.html

Posted by: Retread at November 17, 2012 09:59 AM (zxitI)

202 PurpAv..If I do decide to do this I will probably be seeking alot of morons advice.. and yours is duly noted!

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 10:00 AM (u25eL)

203 There's no money in it. So, no.

Posted by: Truman North


TRUE, but there is Knowledge, understanding of why they sat on their asses. That is what pissed me off about the Mitt campaign. I sent in $250 once he picked Ryan. Thru the onslaught of letters asking for more money. I read one that said for every $250 donation "we can send out 1000 envelopes asking for donations". They are pissing my money away to print pretty, flashy, pan-handling letters, rather than using the money to buy advertisement to enlighten the "Dumb Masses"? I will give when I want, and as much as I want. If you are going to create a revolving circle of fund raising...eat sit and die.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 10:01 AM (bUWh3)

204
I agree Backwards Boy.. I know alot of people that think we're nuts but I said it for months.. the only way fuckstick wins is if he steals it. Sadly I was right.

I recall a story about some shenanigans in either Oiho or Illinois in '08 too. I'd look it up, but it's Saturday, and I need more coffee. I'm lazy today.

Heh. Maybe we can start complaining like the Leftards did in 2000 about the election being stolen and TFG being an illigitmate Preezy. It sure worked for them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (lOmbq)

205 I ate a box of Twinkies yesterday. I didn't know they were worth $50.

Posted by: Butters at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (NIZHJ)

206 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 09:54 AM (49lPc)

It's a harmless diversion that amuses some people.

Personally I think we should ban people who design Death-Stars, but that's just me.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (GsoHv)

207 "
Bevel Lemelisk doesn't understand the concept of a running Gag...
"

If this is a running gag, it's been going on for at least eight years and on every website/forum on the internet.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (LnQr8)

208 Allen, you smoking them, or just giving the time to marinate?

Sorry. Been busy.

Smoking them. Dry rub with mesquite chunks.

My mouth is watering already.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (5DR1j)

209 Hi folks! 'Hope you're all hanging in there.

I just wanted to echo what Mandy P said up thread about the criticism of Romney.

I think there are few folks at HQ who dislike Mitt more than I do on a personal level. I didn't like him, but he was our nominee. Given his built-in weaknesses as a candidate (all politicians have some built-in baggage, Mitt is no different) I think he ran a better campaign than McCain did. In some instances, he did very well. In others, he made mistakes.

(To me, the ORCA thing is the biggest problem because it belies what we were told about Mitt's up sides as a manager and as an experienced campaigner. (Is it wrong of me to point out he only won one campaign in his life? Oh well.) It's also the most important because it's the one we can actually address, by pressing the RNC to get a real, proven GOTV effort up and running and by identifying the moronic consultants and professional campaigners who were responsible (and encouraging them to work for Democrats next time!).)

I see absolutely NO VALUE in pounding on Mitt. I think what Cruz and Jindal and Christie (and I don't know who else) are doing is extremely unhelpful. It's NOT because I want to preserve Mitt's feelings, but simply because it over-simplifies the loss and personalizes it to Mitt and, most importantly, it feeds into the MSM narrative. There is no truth to the idea that Mitt was divisive, for example. There is no truth to the idea that Mitt lost the election on the third debate. Moreover, ALL Republicans should be loudly proclaiming how stacked the deck was against us in the debates.

Mitt was not a leader of our Party before the election cycle and he's not a leader of our Party now. He won the primary and ran as our candidate, but he's now a private citizen (thank goodness). Pounding on his mistakes in messaging is foolish. It only serves to elevate him as someone "important" to the GOP and conservatism. It plays right into the Democrats' hands and is stupid beyond belief.

/end rant

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (5H6zj)

210 agreed sven.. already looking to 2014.. I think things will be enough of a mess that maybe some of the dumbfucks who voted in Preznit Prissypants will be pissed off enough to give us a majority in the senate.But we have to fight fire with fire and I don't see anyone willing to do that. Yet.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 10:03 AM (u25eL)

211 Personally I think we should ban people who design Death-Stars, but that's just me.....

Hah! I didn't design it.

At least according to the dumb clones movie...

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 17, 2012 10:03 AM (LnQr8)

212 And on a completely unrelated note, I've had something stuck in the back
of my mind since the election and that's the psychological effect of
losing what should've been a blowout for Mitt. I'm still struggling with
the notion that there are more Takers than Producers in our country. I
just don't believe it. Granted, my circle of friends is rather small,
but I don't see it.


Well, let's just suppose that the "Looters > Producers" hypothesis is correct. If that's the case, then trying to shame the looters into not looting isn't going to work. Also, campaigning on stopping the looting isn't going to work either. About the best we can hope for is to decentralize the looting. Say that we're not opposed to welfare in principle, just that it ought to be run by the states. I think that is how we move the ball down the field towards reversing the looters-producers imbalance.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 10:04 AM (d/5qf)

213 Jewell: do it. Aside from the good you can do for the school, you will have an electoral victory under your belt. Additionally, you don't have to make any hard decisions as a school committee member, so you won't make enemies. Then you can run for state rep in 2014 or 2016. By 2020 we could be talking about Congresswoman Jewell.


Paladin: the most important use for money is to raise more money: if you can't generate more money, you've wasted all the capital and you can't continue.

Yes, informing voters is critical, but you can't do it without money. So you have to keep asking for it.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 10:05 AM (I2LwF)

214 Sven, I agree. The problems with socons (I'm about 1/16th on my mother's side), is their inability to articulate their positions to the masses without stepping on their dick.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:05 AM (9ScGj)

215 Insty has a link to a newspaper from Bangor, Maine. Idiot Hostess workers think they won by dragging the company under.

The comments at the newspaper on that were great though. Lots of moonbat-clubbing.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 17, 2012 10:05 AM (OevbG)

216 Watching some live cams -Gaza- http://www.ustream.tv/occupiedair
and http://rt.com/on-air/gaza-violence-hamas-israel/

Posted by: RandomFemale at November 17, 2012 10:05 AM (maKJ1)

217 210 jewell45,

It is not a level playing field to try to counter burn.

I am also not giving up on encouraging folk to run Red as they fall.

Our skills and willingness to work are a natural resource.

Deny the blue bastards your body and work and run to red.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:06 AM (LRFds)

218 agreed sven.. already looking to 2014.

Don't. Look to your local elections in 2013. Then look to 2014.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:07 AM (5DR1j)

219 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 17, 2012 09:56 AM (L7hol)

I agree completely. Nor do I want a government system that is so big that it crowds out private charity.
It seems to me that conservatives should be trying to shape a safety net that is shallower, easy to get off, and less attractive to moochers.

About twenty years ago, the Heritage Foundation (I think) did a study which concluded that the best way to make welfare a safety net rather than a magnet/trap,was to include a work requirement,even if that meant that the government was providing make-work. If you have to work whether you're on or off welfare (provided that you're able bodied) , working for a real paycheck becomes more attractive,even if that paycheck is small. I know I shouldn't mention his name here, but FDR set up many of his work projects because he was worried about the moral effects of people being "on the dole". Welfare under FDR was only for widows with children.

Posted by: Burke at November 17, 2012 10:07 AM (CrqI6)

220 88 Also, regarding Obama voters, it is wise to remember that a certain number of them used to be hard-working taxpayers who are trapped. If you live in a small town in southern Ohio and worked in a coal mine which is closed, all you have is unemployment and an EBT card.

It's impossible to sell a house in one of those towns. They can't easily relocate to areas where they might have a chance at a job. They are not skilled in anything except mining and related construction work, and don't have the education to train in something like computers or medical tech stuff.

They are looking at hungry kids and the thought of losing that small amount of help is truly frightening. Those people are scared, not lazy.


I have believed that that was the plan all along. Crush the private sector, then force people to become dependent on the government. Obama has those people by the balls.

Posted by: rickl at November 17, 2012 10:07 AM (sdi6R)

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Posted by: MACHINES FOR SALE at November 17, 2012 10:08 AM (d/5qf)

222 212 ChemJeff,

Maybe and in a system that looked at all Federalist I'd be beside or in front of you.

I think the ONLY way that idea works is to start a voluntary diaspora as we are hit by the economic impact and to force the Feds to start backing off through numbers and emboldened Red Pols.

I'll ponder on it next week hard.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:09 AM (LRFds)

223 Shit... Ijust looked. Next school board elections aren't until 2014. Oh well.. gives me plenty of time to bone up on everything.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 10:09 AM (u25eL)

224 Some moron yesterday coined the term Unicornism as the current reigning political philosophy. I'm going to start using it all the time.

Oh, and Good Morning peasants.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 17, 2012 10:09 AM (QupBk)

225 that the GOP will never win until they drive out the socons;

We'll win by driving majority portions of our electorate off or adding groups we never get 50% + 1 + fraud of? That's just silly. Except for the Ronulans, cause fuck those idiots.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2012 10:10 AM (MOWP1)

226 Ugh - chat feature on that first link -seems to support the Pals.

Posted by: RandomFemale at November 17, 2012 10:10 AM (maKJ1)

227 220 Rickl,

There's something to that, but there are sitcoms about the innate morality of grifting the machine.

We need to run Red and fight like hell to keep Red business going and grow new ones.

One thing would be steel recycling where we transport the scrap south or to Red states from Blue.

Strip the bastards of resources.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:11 AM (LRFds)

228 Strip the bastards of resources.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:11 AM (LRFds)

Isn't that how the civil war started?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:12 AM (3Y7RV)

229 Allen, save a small rack for me! .....although nothing wrong with a big rack either.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:12 AM (9ScGj)

230 225 Dave A,


I suspect Luap Nor nation will either go to the mothership or need a new cult leader soon.

I am in favor of looking at state demographics and adjusting message on a case by case basis on the state level.

One thing is for certain we need a House GOP that stands for consumer freedom and not goddamned "volunteer mandatory life coach" down to our fucking light bulbs and poo paper.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:13 AM (LRFds)

231 Dave Mustaine of Megadeth, "What’s Happening Now Is That Everything America Has Been Built On Will Be Destroyed."

http://tinyurl.com/aspmpvx

Dave's always good for making incendiary comments.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 17, 2012 10:14 AM (s/PhC)

232
Well, let's just suppose that the "Looters > Producers" hypothesis is correct. If that's the case, then trying to shame the looters into not looting isn't going to work. Also, campaigning on stopping the looting isn't going to work either. About the best we can hope for is to decentralize the looting. Say that we're not opposed to welfare in principle, just that it ought to be run by the states. I think that is how we move the ball down the field towards reversing the looters-producers imbalance.

Another thing that bugs me is all the plain, common sense things about the upside of capitalism that went unsaid by virtually all the GOP candidates. They used politi-speak and never translated their words into real-world, kitchen-table ideas and goals. Part of that should've been explaining how wealth is created, how a growing economy is good for everyone and pointing out all the stuff you can have when you have a decent job, and (probably most important right now) how economic growth can help tax revenue. Why is it that nobody on our side bothers to mention that the only way we can help the downtrodden is by having money?

Economics hasn't been taught in a long time, and our side semmingly has no interest in penetrating the Left's bullshit on it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 10:14 AM (lOmbq)

233 228 OSP,

and?

Guy my primary loyalty is to the founding not those assholes in DC and the buildings.

If the place on Earth that adhered our founding and principles the best was Antarctica I'd start learning penguin.

I'm done compromising on Locke.

That ship has sailed.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:15 AM (LRFds)

234 What we need is a revolution. On the up-side, it could conceivably be a revolution at the ballot-box. But to do that, we need to inspire a revolutionary spirit. And that means education. Not education of our kids (though that, too), but making people realize that Property Rights = Liberty, and a Government that infringes on people's property rights (like ours) is a tyrannical government.

Most people think that Liberty just means being able to go about their daily lives with minimal interference. Even if that were true (it isn't), they're NOT going about their lives with minimal interference. But it's worse than that, because the Neo-Feudalists on the Left have inculcated into people's minds the idea that Rights and Money both come from the Government.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:15 AM (5DR1j)

235 I think all these political problems could be resolved if we bring back dueling.


I've often thought the same thing, but it would bring about the professional "Duelist" like the movie "Scaramouche" (1952). Some of the best swordplay on film. Plus some out of work morons would be independent contractors at this.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 10:15 AM (bUWh3)

236 /end rant


Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM


One of the few good things to come out of the election is that we now have a good idea who our "friends" are. There are a number of Repub "stars" who now can and should be consigned to the dustbin of history.

Obviously, some of the babbling loons who clutter up airwaves and bandwidth are on the discard list. squishes Hannity, Poppin' Fresh, Jonah Goldberg, Frum (again), Bill Kristol and others need to say bye-bye now.

Jindal, Christie and Rubio should do likewise. They are all damaged goods after stupid comments and actions during and after the election. I would put Palin in there too, not because she did any damage but because her "help" was weak and virtually invisible.

Wipe away all these losers, along with anyone who advocates the business-as-usual approach for Republicans (who is the next hack to be anointed because "it's his turn?") and we can start rebuilding.

Who the hell knows? After four more years during which it will become painfully obvious that the Free Shit Cascade was nowhere near sustainable, a sensible, patriotic candidate might have a chance!

If, that is, the remaining Elites admit -- and actually try to do something about -- the fraud that cost us this election instead of opting for the Squirrel and Shiny Stuff defense.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 10:15 AM (yKUrR)

237
That ship has sailed.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:15 AM (LRFds)

Didn't say I disagreed.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:16 AM (3Y7RV)

238 I agree Rikki. Obama wants a depression. Then he can rule like FDR and declare martial rule. Since there are no moderates in dem party anymore, they wii follow Obama allthe wAy. Obama also weakened the pentagon on purpose with patreus. All part of the plan

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 10:16 AM (ENrON)

239 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:02 AM (5DR1j)

I realize that you are a Texan, and that mesquite is in your blood, but try hickory, or even maple or cherry sometime.

I find that mesquite adds a bitterness that some people don't like.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 10:16 AM (GsoHv)

240 I think all these political problems could be resolved if we bring back dueling.

Um, OK, but you have to remember that most of these people are pussies.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:17 AM (3Y7RV)

241 Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 10:16 AM (ENrON)

Enron? Damn dude. An unfortunate hash that.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 17, 2012 10:17 AM (QupBk)

242 Even if I tried to polish a Qur'an, it would still remain a turd.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (QTHTd)

243 As for dueling, I agree with what Robert E. Howard said about modern men:

"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (s/PhC)

244
SoCons aren't the problem. Tone deaf and uncharismatic, creepy even senate candidates are the problem.I knew something was horribly wrong when I saw the "I'm not a witch" commercial and she was dressed like a witch in the commercial. Two strikes in one commercial. Own goals. Unforced errors. Republican rape abortion seppuku.

Posted by: Beagle at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (sOtz/)

245 123 required volunteering? Oxymoron alert!

Posted by: West Virginia at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (nw0Vt)

246 I find that mesquite adds a bitterness that some people don't like.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 10:16 AM (GsoHv)

Yep, mostly northerners like the misses don't care for it. Applewood is good too.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (3Y7RV)

247 237 OSP,

I wasn't trying to say you did.

I am thinking I've reached the point I want to go into defense mode and make the donks show hard they are tyrants to get clarity.

The way to do that is to bring back hard regionalism after we get the red concentrated.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (LRFds)

248 Sven, great thinking.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (I2LwF)

249 Another thing most modern people don't realize. By the mid-to-late 1800s, Americans were already more wealthy than modern (that is to say: modern to us) Africans and middle-easterners.

By the mid-to-late 1800s, to many people in America, food already came "from" the market.

That was all before "The Social Safety-Net" and welfare.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (5DR1j)

250 The way to do that is to bring back hard regionalism after we get the red concentrated.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 10:18 AM (LRFds)

Agreed, we also need leaders with the balls to tell the feds no.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:20 AM (3Y7RV)

251 51
How many ever thought they'd see the words, "General Petraeus, Hulk
Hogan, sex tape, deep fried and Koran" all in the same sentence?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:01 AM (9ScGj)



Thread winner !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:20 AM (j2McS)

252 Well.. I'm off to run errands. Later morons.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 17, 2012 10:21 AM (u25eL)

253 I realize that you are a Texan, and that mesquite is in your blood, but try hickory, or even maple or cherry sometime.

Heretic.

Actually, I like Apple Wood and Pecan, too. Hickory is okay, but it doesn't bring much flavor, IMO. I haven't tried maple or cherry.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:21 AM (5DR1j)

254 How many ever thought they'd see the words, "General Petraeus, Hulk
Hogan, sex tape, deep fried and Koran" all in the same sentence?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 08:01 AM (9ScGj)



Thread winner !!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:20 AM (j2McS)

I hope they fried it in pork fat. Just for that little extra F-U.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:21 AM (3Y7RV)

255 [ ... ]
"It seems to me that conservatives should be trying
to shape a safety net that is shallower, easy to get off, and less
attractive to moochers.



About twenty years ago, the Heritage Foundation (I think) did a
study which concluded that the best way to make welfare a safety net
rather than a magnet/trap,was to include a work requirement,even if that
meant that the government was providing make-work. If you have to work
whether you're on or off welfare (provided that you're able bodied) ,
working for a real paycheck becomes more attractive,even if that
paycheck is small. I know I shouldn't mention his name here, but FDR
set up many of his work projects because he was worried about the moral
effects of people being "on the dole". Welfare under FDR was only for
widows with children."

Posted by: Burke at November 17, 2012 10:07 AM (CrqI6)

^ THIS ^
We should be trying, through means open and devious, to get as many Feral Government functions back down to the state level WHERE THEY BELONG. Abortion will take a generation, but unemployment, welfare, child support, environmental protection and education all should be easier to shift downward.We should be able to convince/propagandize/scare voters into believing that "We could do that much more efficiently/more honestly/in a more cost-effective manner than those idiots in DC."Tell the moochers that they'll get more and better free shit. That they won't is not something we have to admit.
Tell the greens that they can accomplish more on a state level. That they won't is not something we have to admit.
Same goes with the well-meaning fools who "just want a better education for the children ..."Reagan wanted to starve the beast. I want to kill it with a thousand cuts.

Posted by: Josef K. at November 17, 2012 10:21 AM (tOkJB)

256 Fucking formatting. How does that work?

Posted by: Josef K. at November 17, 2012 10:23 AM (tOkJB)

257 As long as people on "the social safety net" get to vote on how much cash they get from that net, they're not indigents in my eyes, they're pirates.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 17, 2012 10:23 AM (QTHTd)

258 How many thought we'd ever hear the words "Barack Obama" and "President of the United States" in the same sentence. Not me, I tell you.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:23 AM (j2McS)

259 Gorgeous Carolina day. Another JROTC, cross country and lacrosse weekend. Morning all.

Posted by: NCKate at November 17, 2012 10:23 AM (Kl8yW)

260 the best way to make welfare a safety net rather than a magnet/trap,was to include a work requirement,even if that meant that the government was providing make-work

I've been advocating this since the '70s. What people don't realize is that a lot of welfare recipients have jobs. Just off the books cash ones. If they have to go to work, even if it just entails watching educational films all day, the incentive to get off the dole increases.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 17, 2012 10:25 AM (QupBk)

261 Witchfinder; thanks for sharing Ugly Kid Joe. Like it. But the guy playing lead is doing it backwards

Posted by: zeera at November 17, 2012 10:25 AM (fHLmF)

262 Gosh darn Christmas songs on my favorite radio station already.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:25 AM (3Y7RV)

263 Israeli missile defense is knocking down Iranian made long range missiles over Tel-Aviv.

This will not end well.

These aren't the half assed glorified bottle rockets the palis were shooting off in the past.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 10:26 AM (7+lne)

264 261 - Cain't trust them evil lefties. Especially of the guitarist variety.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 17, 2012 10:27 AM (s/PhC)

265 258 How many thought we'd ever hear the words "Barack Obama" and "President of the United States" in the same sentence. Not me, I tell you.
Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:23 AM (j2McS)


Barack HUSSEIN Obama. And only seven years after 9/11.

Posted by: rickl at November 17, 2012 10:27 AM (sdi6R)

266 Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 10:15 AM (yKUrR)

I agree, and Jindal and Rubio are especially upsetting. I had high hopes for both of them.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:27 AM (9ScGj)

267 I've been advocating this since the '70s. What people don't realize is that a lot of welfare recipients have jobs. Just off the books cash ones. If they have to go to work, even if it just entails watching educational films all day, the incentive to get off the dole increases.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 17, 2012 10:25 AM (QupBk)

Yep, that's such a dirty little secret. The inner cities have an entire community based strictly on barter with very little money exchanging hands. The business acumen of some of these people rival that of the college educated in major corporations. Stupid these people are not.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:28 AM (3Y7RV)

268 balls and turds! before the big cheat of 2012 went out purchased extra ammo. 3 boxes .308. 2 boxes .444, 2 0f .40SW. that twat in the white owes me over $200.00. by twat I don't mean moochelle.

Posted by: kidobutai at November 17, 2012 10:28 AM (ag3hs)

269 May I suggest a thread? Instead of 'how do we fix the republican message' or 'how do we hang benghazi around the Lightbringer's neck' let's have a thread about survival in the coming Brave New World of economic depression, lib/commie zombie attack and shrinking food and consumer product production in the U.S.

Let's see, I'd start with at least five acres and a water well in a pro-private-property rights state, a couple of cows, some chickens, an electricity source . . .

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:29 AM (j2McS)

270 All politics is local. Get involved. Somehow.

Posted by: West Virginia at November 17, 2012 10:29 AM (nw0Vt)

271 I've noticed some people that have been missing since election day:

Mama AJ, ErikW (he's been gone since well before the election), buzzion, Jackstraw....any others?


Come out, come out wherever you are......

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 10:30 AM (X6akg)

272 Come out, come out wherever you are......
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2012 10:30 AM (X6akg)


I think some people needed a break. Mrs. Sailor all but shut down for a couple of weeks. She's slowly starting to talk about it again.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:32 AM (3Y7RV)

273 Israeli missile defense is knocking down Iranian made long range missiles over Tel-Aviv.

These aren't the half assed glorified bottle rockets the palis were shooting off in the past.



How much captured Soviet armor did the Israelis share with us after '67 and '73?


The log files (or whatever they have) from the operation of Iron Dome are invaluable. If you were Netanyahu, would you share that intel with America right now?

Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2012 10:32 AM (z9HTb)

274 The log files (or whatever they have) from the operation of Iron Dome are invaluable. If you were Netanyahu, would you share that intel with America right now?
Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2012 10:32 AM (z9HTb)

Only if I wanted the JEF to share it with the rest of the middle east.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:34 AM (3Y7RV)

275 Just was listening to Wall Street Watch Dog. He is suggesting we find a way to go 'Mid-evil' on raiders like Corzine.

I will be subscribing to his newsletter.

Posted by: sTevo at November 17, 2012 10:34 AM (YSd1Q)

276 >>Applewood is good too.

Alder is also a good, and subtle wood.

Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2012 10:35 AM (fDblg)

277 Wait. You mean that big thing in the sky that shows up and lights everything gives off HEAT!!!!1!!!

SHUT. UP. That's like so weird man. If we pray to it maybe the temperature will go up or down?

How about virgin sacrifice? No wait, not enough candidates.

Um, um. OH I Know. We'll build these 4 sided stepped pyramids? And at the top we'll build this table like and on the table we'll have guys (ex surgeons or something) who'll cut out peoples HEARTS and offer it to the SUN.

Think that might work?

Posted by: AshKente at November 17, 2012 10:35 AM (SP4jC)

278 275 Just was listening to Wall Street Watch Dog. He is suggesting we find a way to go 'Mid-evil' on raiders like Corzine.

I will be subscribing to his newsletter.
Posted by: sTevo at November 17, 2012 10:34 AM (YSd1Q)


He needs whacked, period. Hi STevo.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:35 AM (3Y7RV)

279 Lingerie.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDild


Been there done that, she only wore it once. She knows how to get what she wants.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 10:35 AM (bUWh3)

280 Posted by: Josef K. at November 17, 2012 10:23 AM (tOkJB)

Pixie has a five year plan to fix it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 10:36 AM (GsoHv)

281 . . . of course I'd need a good sized arsenal to protect my property and food, and a couple of good easy to work on vehicles, maybe pre-computer ignition . . .

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:36 AM (j2McS)

282 *insert ordinal number!*

Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at November 17, 2012 10:36 AM (Lxw+T)

283 And now I'm having some kind of allergic reaction to something. I itch all over.

And I can't take Benadryl, because I have to be functional, and it always knocks me out.

/whine off

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 10:37 AM (5DR1j)

284 Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 10:35 AM (bUWh3)

A gift certificate for a massage, preferably for someone who will come to your home.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2012 10:37 AM (GsoHv)

285 Not sure why I've never thought about this before, but does Israel have any military allies other than the US? If don't assist, or they truly on their own?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:38 AM (9ScGj)

286 285 Not sure why I've never thought about this before, but does Israel have any military allies other than the US? If don't assist, or they truly on their own?
Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:38 AM (9ScGj)

None that would die for them.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:39 AM (3Y7RV)

287 . . . water would probably end up being the most important component and most valuable commodity, so a water well and/or rainwater collection system would be crucial . . . -

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:39 AM (j2McS)

288
Barack HUSSEIN Obama. And only seven years after 9/11.

Emotional shock makes people succeptible to all kinds of things, none of them good. It opens the door of their mind when it should remain closed to bad ideas.

The shock of JFK's assassination opened the country up to the counter-culture "revolution," something I'm convinced was hatched and foisted on us by our enemies, and planned well ahead of time. Witness the preoccupation with sex (If it feels good, do it). We're now into the second generation of the ego-based appeal to the senses (what I call the "Mr. Rogers Society") where you're wonderful just the way you are, even if you have your head stuck up your own ass and wouldn't know the truth if it bit you. Ego massage has replaced instruction in schools.

Couple this with the marginalization of all things masculine, and a clear pattern emerges: our society has been attacked.

And, given last Tuesday's electoral results, defeated.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 10:39 AM (lOmbq)

289
@285

i think they have a defense treaty with Canada

Posted by: kj at November 17, 2012 10:39 AM (qEts0)

290 41 Insty has a link to a newspaper from Bangor, Maine. Idiot Hostess workers think they won by dragging the company under.
Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2012 07:50 AM (g3jwX)

Isn't that what unions are for these days?

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:40 AM (IwDQC)

291 What does your wife like to do, Paladin?

One thing that can be fun if she enjoys cooking is to get some sort of monthly food of the month type things because then she gets interesting ingredients throughout the year. Or a plant of the month.

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read the comments at November 17, 2012 10:41 AM (5H6zj)

292 . . . as well as a large, well equipped shop with all mechanics tools, some carpentry tools, a welding machine, air compressor, lift or pit for vehicles . . .

Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:41 AM (j2McS)

293 Isn't that what unions are for these days?
Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:40 AM (IwDQC)

They'll celebrate till one of their kids say, Um, Daddy. The Refridgerator is empty.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:41 AM (3Y7RV)

294
i think they have a defense treaty with Canada
Posted by: kj at November 17, 2012 10:39 AM (qEts0)

Like I said, no one that would die for them.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:42 AM (3Y7RV)

295 267 - "Yep, that's such a dirty little secret. The inner cities have an entire
community based strictly on barter drugs with very little money exchanging
hands. The business acumen of some of these people rival that of the
college educated in major corporations. Stupid these people are not."
FIFY

Posted by: catman at November 17, 2012 10:43 AM (NYdB8)

296
I didn't realize until recently that there is an embarrassing smear out on Allen West which involves something from a court record between spouses. Sexual talk of the extremely randy variety. So literally here the Democrats are smearing him with his private, personal marital sex life. All allegedly of course, and Imaynot have the 'facts' exactly right.

He really makes CAIR angry so they've pulled out all the stops to get rid of him.Democrat smear tactics have gone from hardball to Rollerball.

I remember when several womencomplaning of sexual harassment was private and personal. It's good to be a Democrat.

Posted by: Beagle at November 17, 2012 10:44 AM (sOtz/)

297 Posted by: catman at November 17, 2012 10:43 AM (NYdB


Agreed, but drugs are only part of the bigger picture. Drugs are damn near currency.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:44 AM (3Y7RV)

298 So I guess the little icons that do formatting do not work?


Posted by: catman at November 17, 2012 10:44 AM (NYdB8)

299 Let's see, I'd start with at least five acres and a water well in a pro-private-property rights state, a couple of cows, some chickens, an electricity source . . .
Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:29 AM (j2McS)


Feed the homeless to the hungry?

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:44 AM (IwDQC)

300 Paladin, get her some new speakers for the living room, or a new graphics card for the PC.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:45 AM (9ScGj)

301 Feed the homeless to the hungry?
Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:44 AM (IwDQC)

Nah, the pigs will eat them.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:46 AM (3Y7RV)

302
Feed the homeless to the hungry?

Soylent Green is Hobos!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 10:46 AM (lOmbq)

303 293 Isn't that what unions are for these days?
Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:40 AM (IwDQC)

They'll celebrate till one of their kids say, Um, Daddy. The Refridgerator is empty.

They will starve their own children as long as no evil capitalists make a profit.

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:47 AM (IwDQC)

304 a couple of good easy to work on vehicles, maybe pre-computer ignition . . .


Posted by: Sphynx at November 17, 2012 10:36 AM


^^^^ THIS ^^^^

I miss the cars I had as a yoot. Ignition coils, carburetors and no computerized systems will get you through problems with EMP attacks. Plus, they can be repaired with (mostly) hand tools.

Same goes for electronics using vacuum tubes, though most replacement parts come from places like Russia and will be hard to source when the SHTF.

When shit gets real, it will be necessary to survive without most of the things we take for granted now. But people have done that before.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 10:48 AM (yKUrR)

305
When shit gets real, it will be necessary to survive without most of the things we take for granted now. But people have done that before.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 10:48 AM (yKUrR)

Yep, you have to take your brain back to the 1920's and 30's.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:49 AM (3Y7RV)

306 A good cast Iron potbellied stove. Cook on it, heat with it, it's an awesome tool.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:50 AM (3Y7RV)

307 A mule.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 10:51 AM (5H6zj)

308 but does Israel have any military allies other than the US?

The Saudi and Kuwaiti monarchies have no interest in seeing this uprising shit topple their governments.

It got very little (i.e. zero) media play, but some years ago, after Hamas got voted in, they both quietly indicated they were washing their hands of the Palis because they were irredeemable fuckups and not worth of support.


Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 10:51 AM (7+lne)

309
Bangkok Post reporting the US Secret Service were startled and concerned with President O'Stumblefuck's safety with deadly komodo dragons walking freely at Government House.

After learning they were actually monitor lizards, the SS resumed their hunt for Thai pussy, gold chains, and fake Rolex watches.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 17, 2012 10:52 AM (lDWQr)

310 3 RINOs are getting ready to sell us out again.

http://is.gd/bKfC7o


******

Someone tell me again what, other than being clean and articulate, Rubio brings to the party.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 10:52 AM (piMMO)

311 Yep, you have to take your brain back to the 1920's and 30's.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:49 AM


Doesn't sound so bad, really.

Of course we would have to do without places like the HQ where we can vent, get advice and realize that there are a few of us left who actually want the nation and its citizens to survive.

But then we'd also lose Daily Kos. So it ain't all bad.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 10:53 AM (yKUrR)

312 Yep, you have to take your brain back to the 1920's and 30's.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:49 AM (3Y7RV)

Liberals will take us back to the good old days! That's not very progressive.

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:53 AM (IwDQC)

313 I thought EMP would fry the old systems as well? Granted, easier to just replace a coil, ignition, alternator and plugs than dealing with a computerized system.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:53 AM (9ScGj)

314 So you have to keep asking for it.

It's wasted money. I've got pile of unopened envelopes waiting to be shredded with the return address of Mitt Romeny, Paul Ryan, Ann Romeny ... yada yada yada. As I said I will give when i want, and as much as I want. Regardless of begging. That is wasted money, IMHO! I think most people who give are similar to me. Fancy letterhead, and expensive printing dose not sway me.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 10:53 AM (bUWh3)

315 As I said yesterday, I'm investigating getting a hand pump option for my rural well. Having water is priority 1, then food, then weapons/ammo, then everything else is somewhat manageable...

Posted by: zeera at November 17, 2012 10:54 AM (FHr35)

316 The Israelis blew up some Hamas commanders house that was being used to store explosives. Good job!

http://goo.gl/fmqHu

Posted by: Walkers! at November 17, 2012 10:54 AM (MazXE)

317 Elmo sodomite paid accuser $125,000 after he recanted and said he was 18 when the puppeteer began pounding his behind.

Gee, can we FIRE this rapin', molestin', bribin' criminal from Sesame Street NOW?

No?

Ok then.

Posted by: Capt. Obvious at November 17, 2012 10:55 AM (AzwZn)

318 Someone tell me again what, other than being clean and articulate, Rubio brings to the party.
----

He has the ability to sound Reaganesque at times, ie: delivering an optimistic view of the greatness of this country, but so does Paul Ryan.

Give me an Allen West over Marco Rubio any day. BTW, I have not forgotten the way Allen wound up in this tough district. Thank you FL GOP Establishment! /s

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 10:55 AM (5H6zj)

319 315 As I said yesterday, I'm investigating getting a hand pump option for my rural well. Having water is priority 1, then food, then weapons/ammo, then everything else is somewhat manageable...
Posted by: zeera at November 17, 2012 10:54 AM (FHr35)

Get the water tested asap. You may need some sort of filtering or purification.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:56 AM (3Y7RV)

320 298
So I guess the little icons that do formatting do not work?




Posted by: catman at November 17, 2012 10:44 AM (NYdB

no, not much works around here

Posted by: MACHINES FOR SALE at November 17, 2012 10:56 AM (d/5qf)

321 "Someone tell me again what, other than being clean and articulate, Rubio brings to the party."

You forgot "brown"

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 10:56 AM (9ScGj)

322 "Right there with you Mandy."

Me too, Mandy. But I guess what he said might be offensive to some - mostly to leeches - and isn't supposed to be the tone the new soft and fuzzy Republican Party takes.

Also, FWIW, mistakes were made in the campaign for sure (especially ones we are all proficient at identifyingwith the wisdom of hindsight). But Romney worked hard,tried to walk the line between being positive anda critic, and as you say, tried to appeal to the best in people. He told people flat out, "If you want free stuff, vote for the other guy."

I was not a huge fan, but for who he is, I thought he did a pretty good job and don't love the lashing out at him after the fact. Ifmore "purists" and lazy$%*s who are registered Rs had turned out and voted for the non European socialist, Romney would be the president elect. My anger is reserved for those no-shows.

Posted by: RM at November 17, 2012 10:57 AM (TRsME)

323 I thought EMP would fry the old systems as well?

I'm not sure about this. But the hard parts -- such as points -- can be easily replaced when they go, and wouldn't be damaged when on a shelf.

Seems to me EMP would not affect any equipment built in teh Old Days. I can't imagine a Model A Ford being put out of action by a direct nuclear hit.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 10:58 AM (yKUrR)

324 The chair is against the wall.
The chair is against the wall.

The turtle walks to the mailbox.
The turtle walks to the mailbox.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 17, 2012 10:58 AM (PNi9V)

325 All this wallowing in depression is notgoing to change anything. Are you guys going to continue moping for another week?I'm not ready to lay down like a doormat and die just yet. Look the greater horrors which other historical groups had to overcome, and did so. Take courage from their example and hope again.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at November 17, 2012 10:59 AM (OTWsz)

326 The idiot RINOs are selling us out as always. They aren't, never were nor will ever be conservatives.


The main thing Romney got wrong is that it wasn't 47% on the take, it is more like 52%.

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 17, 2012 10:59 AM (Cnqmv)

327 Truman,

I have not done political fundraising, so I appreciate that there are some differences, but in philanthropic fundraising the value of "annual fund" solicitations is mostly "pipe-line" (a means of identifying high-worth gift prospects) not dollars raised. The payoff on mail (or even phone) solicitation is not that great. So Romney should have focused on e-solicitations (which are very cheap) and combing the donor lists for high-value prospects who could be solicited using major gifts techniques, imho.

I believe Obama uses/d his to generate lists of small donors that were mostly important for GOTV efforts.


Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 10:59 AM (5H6zj)

328 321 "Someone tell me again what, other than being clean and articulate, Rubio brings to the party."

You forgot "brown"


******

Lotta damn good it did for us

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 10:59 AM (piMMO)

329 324 The chair is against the wall.
The chair is against the wall.

The turtle walks to the mailbox.
The turtle walks to the mailbox.

Time to walk the dog.
Time to walk the dog.

No, really, I have to walk the dog. Later Rons.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 10:59 AM (3Y7RV)

330 Breaking: Bamster
is going to nationalize Hostess, pay off the union pensions like he did
with GM, then re-introduce products with new names and "healthier"
formulations. Get ready for the Ho Hopenchange, Up-Twinkle, Sno-Balling
Deficit cake and Suzy QE-infinity. All guaranteed to put a hole in your
savings and teeth.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 17, 2012 11:00 AM (JJ+PT)

331 Of course we would have to do without places like the HQ where we can
vent, get advice and realize that there are a few of us left who
actually want the nation and its citizens to survive.


Ham radio packet relay. Its kinda like low bandwidth internet.

Once the SHTF, there ain't gonna be any FCC around to stop anyone and ask for licenses or limit broadcast signal strength.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 11:00 AM (7+lne)

332 It's an old well; still has the windmill tower above it. But it's been our water source for over 30 years. Does have nitrates (nitrites?). I've got bleach if we start using it for our primary drinking water. Forgot to add wood burning, 3rd world cook stove to my list.

Posted by: zeera at November 17, 2012 11:01 AM (FHr35)

333 243 As for dueling, I agree with what Robert E. Howard said about modern men:

And the Heinlein Corollary: "An armed society is a polite society."

Posted by: Fox2! at November 17, 2012 11:01 AM (1Qpmy)

334 Just think of all the amazing novels, paintings and photographs we will produce now that we no longer have to stay in a boring job just to have medical insurance! And it's already happening with your hours being cut below 30 per week to avoid giving you insurance!

Well, we haven't actually delivered on that free medical insurance yet, but think of all your new spare time! Now don't ruin it by going out to find a second job. By the way, start saving up to pay for your penalty next April.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows where thou concealest thy þr0n at November 17, 2012 11:02 AM (Lxw+T)

335 The GOP Machine cranks out weak shit and the Democrat Machine mows it down.

Mitt Dukakis lost.




Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:03 AM (sRus3)

336 Give me an Allen West over Marco Rubio any day. BTW, I have not forgotten the way Allen wound up in this tough district. Thank you FL GOP Establishment! /s

******

Then you should be happy to learn that West hasn't "wound up" anywhere yet.

Despite repeated denials, the latest coming from a judge early yesterday, West refused to relent and, last night, the canvassing board agreed to a full count of all early votes.

The dude is a warrior.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:03 AM (piMMO)

337 Rubio also has a hot wife. So there's that.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 17, 2012 11:04 AM (s/PhC)

338 Haters.

Posted by: Williams Sonoma at November 17, 2012 11:05 AM (ypzqs)

339 314 So you have to keep asking for it.

It's wasted money. I've got pile of unopened envelopes waiting to be shredded with the return address of Mitt Romeny, Paul Ryan, Ann Romeny ... yada yada yada. As I said I will give when i want, and as much as I want. Regardless of begging. That is wasted money, IMHO! I think most people who give are similar to me. Fancy letterhead, and expensive printing dose not sway me.
Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 10:53 AM (bUWh3)

Yep. The return is about. 4%. But they keep sending them...

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 11:06 AM (I2LwF)

340 Yes, I know West hasn't given up. But if the FL GOP hadn't screwed around with his district, he wouldn't be in this battle.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:06 AM (5H6zj)

341 39
I know some of you morons love the pussies, but this is ridiculous.
Cats are disposable....on par with a goldfish won at the carnival.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (9ScGj)

Assholes who have a visceral hatred of helpless animals are disposable too.


Posted by: the truth about cats and dogs at November 17, 2012 11:06 AM (TLbgU)

342 Y-not, email me please.

Sanderson2208 @ gmail

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 11:06 AM (I2LwF)

343 The present-day GOP is so fucked up and useless they will lose no matter who is nominated.

The GOP must die and a new Party must take its place.



Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:07 AM (sRus3)

344 Once the SHTF, there ain't gonna be any FCC around to stop anyone and ask for licenses or limit broadcast signal strength.


Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 11:00 AM


How many Ham-sters have vacuum-tube equipment, Purp?

Yeah, the old stuff would allow communication, but there aren't enough surplus stores left to make that feasible. And no old-school "electronics supply" houses where one could find parts to repair/make 'em.

I have tubes for my Hammond B3. Ain't nobody gettin' those!

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:07 AM (yKUrR)

345 Yes, I know West hasn't given up. But if the FL GOP hadn't screwed around with his district, he wouldn't be in this battle.

****

We CANNOT let this man disappear from sight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:08 AM (piMMO)

346 I would put Palin in there too, not because she did any damage but because her "help" was weak and virtually invisible.

HEY THERE hold on s second. Let's not forget her rack! She could be like that famous painting of the French Revolution of the babe in front of the crowd with one boobie sticking out to lead the masses. Worked before, can work again.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 11:09 AM (bUWh3)

347 I'd look hard at the voter signin sheets too. They're gonna find thousands of signatures that were written by the same persons.

The Broward fraud machine is formidable.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 11:09 AM (7+lne)

348 I would put Palin in there too, not because she did any damage but because her "help" was weak and virtually invisible.

HEY THERE hold on s second. Let's not forget her rack! She could be like that famous painting of the French Revolution of the babe in front of the crowd with one boobie sticking out to lead the masses. Worked before, can work again.
Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 11:09 AM (bUWh3)

Did Palin offer to help?

If so, what answer did she get?

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:10 AM (sRus3)

349 Zeera, sounds like you're going to be extremely set up if the SHTF. I just need your address..so I can check on you, and, ah, make sure you're doing ok.

...just curious, you packing any serious heat or planning any booby traps?

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 11:10 AM (9ScGj)

350
I have tubes for my Hammond B3. Ain't nobody gettin' those!

Glad to see someone has values, unlike whoever it was upthread that recommended alder wood for smoking.

What will we make Stratocasters out of then?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 11:10 AM (lOmbq)

351 >>We CANNOT let this man disappear from sight.

Yep. If he loses, I've been trying to think of what position he could take that would elevate his profile and develop his "resume" for additional office.

I wonder if one of the veteran's organizations could use him for something.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:12 AM (5H6zj)

352 Oh, and Ynot, take a look at the 5th Congressional district in FL.

I'm one of the beneficiaries of that little cluster.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:12 AM (piMMO)

353 How many Ham-sters have vacuum-tube equipment, Purp?

Just stash critical items in a metal box and they'll be safe from EMP. A metal box is a Faraday cage.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 11:13 AM (7+lne)

354 339, Truman North -- I spent the last few months deleting emails from Mutt Romney, Teh Noot and fifty bazillion other candidates and hangers-on. What they all had in common was wanting donations.

Spam filters are your friend.

There comes a point when someone like me, who is not working and is very short of money, reaches full don't-give-a-shit mode regarding appeals for loot to Fight the Good Fight.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:13 AM (yKUrR)

355 Glad to see someone has values, unlike whoever it was upthread that recommended alder wood for smoking.

What will we make Stratocasters out of then?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 11:10 AM (lOmbq)


Go acoustic...

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 11:13 AM (IwDQC)

356 Yep. If he loses, I've been trying to think of what position he could take that would elevate his profile and develop his "resume" for additional office.

****

Me too. He isn't right for POTUS but can serve somewhere. I hope Reince and company are giving some thought to it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:15 AM (piMMO)

357 I am 59 and am in the top 2% of earners. I have to work for a living and am trying my best to save enough to lead a comfortable retirement. Bottom line, I am in "decent" shape financially relative to many but worry constantly about my next 25 years---if I am luck enough to live that long. I get really pissed off with Obama and the Dems wanting to raise my taxes---especially when we all know that to raise taxes on the "millionaires & billionaires" will be a mere drop in the bucket when it comes to solving our deficit and debt problem. The real money is in entitlements---Social Security and Medicare in particular. Folks, there is simply not enough money to go around. So, I am ok with raising the retirement age for SS and am ok with means testing benefits---both of which will hurt me. But this is effectively a tax on us "rich" people. To also raise the tax rate on my income is unfair. In sum, the discussion on deficits, debt etc has to include SS and Medicare (as that's where the money is) and if us "rich" people are willing to take a hit on retirement age and means testing, don't attack us with higher tax rates on our income.

Posted by: Bill S at November 17, 2012 11:15 AM (UzlOs)

358 Yeah I sure am glad Obama yanked the majority of our non socom forces from Iraq...they are openly calling for a replay of the 1970s....

and bambi won't let us max out our POL....

Run Red

Posted by: sven10077 at November 17, 2012 11:16 AM (LRFds)

359 324
The turtle walks to the mailbox.
The turtle walks to the mailbox.


BRB.

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Posted by: The turtle at November 17, 2012 11:17 AM (sdi6R)

360 What will we make Stratocasters out of then?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 11:10 AM


The entrails of our enemies, of course.

Any low-life scum who attack Strats should be repeatedly nuked.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:17 AM (yKUrR)

361 Cats are disposable....on par with a goldfish won at the carnival.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 07:46 AM (9ScGj)

Assholes who have a visceral hatred of helpless animals are disposable too.


Posted by: the truth about cats and dogs at November 17, 2012 11:06 AM (TLbgU)
************

Relax, it was a joke home skillet, I love all animals...even the ones that are not for sex

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 11:17 AM (9ScGj)

362 Yep. The return is about. 4%. But they keep sending them...

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 11:06 AM (I2LwF)
I feel the same way about the NRA's endless, endless mailings. My husband is a life member - but it seems to me that if they cut down a little bit on the beggin' mail, they wouldn't have to beg so much. Not just the postage, but the slick, glossy cards and brochures and the like.Money would be better spend elsewhere, I'd think.

Posted by: antisocialist at November 17, 2012 11:18 AM (j/nZn)

363 Cats are evil.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 17, 2012 11:18 AM (ZPrif)

364 Aim lower boys, the bastards are riding rats.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 11:18 AM (6H6FZ)

365 There comes a point when someone like me, who is not working and is very
short of money, reaches full don't-give-a-shit mode regarding appeals
for loot to Fight the Good Fight.


This. Well, not the "not working" part, but the short on money part. A lot of us in middle America don't have an extra $50.00 to donate. One thing Obama did well was to juice his high-dollar donors for everything they were worth, and then accept $3 and $5 donations.

Beyond that, though, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of bloggers who would be willing to write something- help carry some message- if only we knew what it was.

Not a direct, "Dedicated Tenther, you write a post on X," but "Hey bloggers, the key themes for this month are A, B, and C. If you could keep that in mind, it would be nice."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 11:19 AM (5DR1j)

366 This looks like night time video of IDF missile intercepts. Outbound shit streaks up and blows up incoming shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVefOuwHFh8

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 17, 2012 11:19 AM (7+lne)

367 someone has values, unlike whoever it was upthread that recommended alder wood for smoking. What will we make Stratocasters out of then?

That was me...and there are enough Strats. Fuckin' tinker-toys, anyway.

Posted by: garrett at November 17, 2012 11:19 AM (EfAN3)

368 What is it about Allen West that makes him unsuitable for POTUS?

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:20 AM (sRus3)

369 Icedog; To narrow it down for ya, I live in the country of a blue-state. Seriously under-weaponed at the moment BUT my SiL is a 'former active duty Marine' who knows where to head to and will bring his non-trivial arsenal along with the daughter and granddaughters. Having a jarhead with combat experience in-house is very.... reassuring.

Posted by: zeera at November 17, 2012 11:20 AM (lf14X)

370 The entrails of our enemies, of course.

Any low-life scum who attack Strats should be repeatedly nuked.
Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:17 AM (yKUrR)

Was that the same Martha Stewart segment where she demonstated how to carve a harmonica from a hobo femur?

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 11:21 AM (IwDQC)

371 Was that the same Martha Stewart segment where she demonstated how to carve a harmonica from a hobo femur?
Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 11:21 AM (IwDQC)

She made it look easy, but it really isn't.

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:23 AM (sRus3)

372 They start messing with Telecasters, they are in deep kim chee with me.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 11:23 AM (6H6FZ)

373 Cats are evil.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 17, 2012 11:18 AM


That's why I love 'em.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:23 AM (yKUrR)

374 Zeera, well since you're in a blue state, I'm sure your neighbors will make easier targets for the rat packs.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 11:23 AM (9ScGj)

375 Assholes who have a visceral hatred of helpless animals are disposable too.


*****

I didn't see the original comment and had to scroll back.

That son of a bitch walked the dog up the driveway and past their car to let his dog have a go at a sleeping cat.

I don't give one rat's fuck that he's 82 years old!!

People seem to forget that all manner of evil achieve old age. Gray hair does not forgive their sins.

That bastard.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:24 AM (piMMO)

376 >>>363 Cats are evil.

Serial killers to the core. My front porch looks like a Jigsaw killer crime scene whenever one catches a gopher.

Posted by: El Kabong, Vakarian/Wrex 2016 at November 17, 2012 11:24 AM (pzmYs)

377 A gift certificate for a massage, preferably for someone who will come to your home.

Nope, done that. She doesn't want some strangers hands all over her...just me! Lucky Me! Which is why I want to get her something ... nice!

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 11:24 AM (bUWh3)

378 368 What is it about Allen West that makes him unsuitable for POTUS?


.....

Temperament

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:25 AM (piMMO)

379 All this wallowing in depression is notgoing to change anything. Are you guys going to continue moping for another week?


Give people some time. The election was a real kick in the guts. Some will bounce back more quickly than others.

Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2012 11:26 AM (z9HTb)

380 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:24 AM (piMMO)

To be honest, I never even read the story...just saw "3 years in prison...for a dead cat". Sounded a bit severe...but looks like justice was served.

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 11:27 AM (9ScGj)

381 >>>368 What is it about Allen West that makes him unsuitable for POTUS?

West is a good man, he speaks the truth and is unafraid to do so.

That being said...experience. And I tend to not like congress-folk running for President in general. Voting 'yes or no' isn't exactly proving your skills.

Posted by: El Kabong, Vakarian/Wrex 2016 at November 17, 2012 11:28 AM (pzmYs)

382 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:24 AM (piMMO

How the hell can you sneak up on a cat? I thought they were omniscient or something.

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 11:29 AM (IwDQC)

383 someone has values, unlike whoever it was upthread that recommended
alder wood for smoking. What will we make Stratocasters out of then?



That was me...and there are enough Strats. Fuckin' tinker-toys, anyway.



**pops popcorn**

Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2012 11:29 AM (z9HTb)

384 To be honest, I never even read the story...just saw "3 years in prison...for a dead cat". Sounded a bit severe...but looks like justice was served.

....


And that's just what was caught on security camera. There's no telling what the old bastard hasn't been caught at yet.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:30 AM (piMMO)

385 I miss the cars I had as a yoot. Ignition coils, carburetors

And the only tuned perfect 20% of the time and the smog and the 12 mpg and the will it start and leaving dozens of perfectly good horsepower on the table, etc.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2012 11:30 AM (MOWP1)

386 Just read the dog kills cat story.

Who tries to separate their pit bull from a cat by stepping on a cat? And who leaves an injured animal to die?

Three years sounds like a lot, but the dude sounds like he has issues.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:31 AM (5H6zj)

387 What does your wife like to do, Paladin?

On her free time she putzes around the yard. But, We've got all the tools equipment imaginable, that hasn't even been opened yet. Time is what we need. However once the Apocalypse (12-21-2012) happens, we should have plenty. After fighting off the zombie hordes, that is.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 11:31 AM (bUWh3)

388 How the hell can you sneak up on a cat? I thought they were omniscient or something.

.......

A 12 year old cat, sleeping where it feels safe, isn't going to move too quickly when startled from its sleep.

That mother-fucker saw a sleeping, vulnerable animal, and sought it out in its own home.

I hope he enjoys prison.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:33 AM (piMMO)

389 West is a good man, he speaks the truth and is unafraid to do so.

That being said...experience. And I tend to not like congress-folk running for President in general. Voting 'yes or no' isn't exactly proving your skills.
Posted by: El Kabong, Vakarian/Wrex 2016 at November 17, 2012 11:28 AM (pzmYs)

This is why we lose.

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:33 AM (sRus3)

390 >>Nope, done that. She doesn't want some strangers hands all over
her...just me!

I'm the same way. I can barely tolerate having my hair done.

>>Which is why I want to get her something ...
nice!

Another fun gift (well, I think it's fun) is tickets to some special event (ballet, opera, theater, whatever) with a night at a nice hotel where the event is. It gives her a chance to buy herself a new outfit and get dolled up as well as the chance to do something special with you.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:33 AM (5H6zj)

391 Temperament
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:25 AM (piMMO)

Specify, please.

Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:34 AM (sRus3)

392 >>>389 This is why we lose.

Oh, do tell.

Posted by: El Kabong, Vakarian/Wrex 2016 at November 17, 2012 11:35 AM (pzmYs)

393 Who tries to separate their pit bull from a cat by stepping on a cat? And who leaves an injured animal to die?

.....

Someone who isn't trying to save the cat but make a getaway.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:35 AM (piMMO)

394 >>On her free time she putzes around the yard.

What's your budget?

Having someone build her raised beds or do some pretty landscaping work (like installing a fountain or gazebo or "dry scaping") could be a nice gift.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:35 AM (5H6zj)

395 U.S. Rep. Allen West continues to hold out hope that he can prevail with a recount in his coastal Florida race. But the Republican firebrand has ruled out a return to Georgia should he need to restart his political career…

West wasn’t interested. “No,” the former lieutenant colonel replied. “Look, let me tell you something. I have moved my wife around for 20-some-odd years, being in the military, and she was also the daughter of a career military guy. When I retired, she chose Florida. That’s where my daughter’s in school, in college, my youngest daughter’s in high school. That’s our home. It’s a very nice thing, but I’m not an NFL free agent.”

Posted by: Icedog at November 17, 2012 11:36 AM (9ScGj)

396 This is the perfect gift:
http://tinyurl.com/bjf5pq8

Incidentally, I think this item illustrates perfectly the disconnect between the impending economic apocalypse and the mindset of most rich white liberals.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:37 AM (5H6zj)

397 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:33 AM (piMMO)

I'd throw him into a cage with hungry tigers.

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 11:38 AM (IwDQC)

398 Congressman Gohmert R-TX "This is a time to be bold."
http://tinyurl.com/awysjtm
Boehner talk of reforming the entire tax code?
Lou Dobbs on The Fox Business Network

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at November 17, 2012 11:38 AM (BAnPT)

399 391 Temperament
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:25 AM (piMMO)

Specify, please.


......

I admire greatly his dedication and his spirit but I think he can also be abrasive. If he could shift to aggressiveness without the abrasiveness, then I might feel differently.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:38 AM (piMMO)

400
How come there are never any more Walking Dead threads? People can't have lost interest in the show already, can they?

Posted by: Walkers! at November 17, 2012 11:38 AM (MazXE)

401 This is why we lose.





Posted by: eman at November 17, 2012 11:33 AM


A-freekin'-men, brother.

We also lose when some idiots back candidates because of their race/ethnicity or because some other stooge touts them as being the greatest thing since sliced cheese.

Wasn't someone here yesterday calling on us to pick Rubio and some other noob right now for16?

I suspect some (at *cough* certain other unmentionable blogs *cough*) will again be pushing T-Paw and Santorum soon.

Gaaack....

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:39 AM (yKUrR)

402 I really like Allen West, including his temperament. I'd want to see him have some more time in public office or as head of some sort of organization before having him on a POTUS ticket, though. I'd just like to see what he can accomplish.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:39 AM (5H6zj)

403 @385 You're trying to start something. I don't think it's a 1960's V8, though.

I should be pleased to meet you and your current mount upon the field of honour, at any point of mutual convenience. Shall your seconds call upon my seconds?

Posted by: comatus at November 17, 2012 11:40 AM (qaVK+)

404 Is it over and I never knew it was up for grabs? Did Boehner get re-elected? If so, there goes our chance for a fight.

Posted by: AnnaS at November 17, 2012 11:41 AM (LvXz6)

405 If you want a stellar example of the New Barbarism we find ourselves immersed in, read the comments to a George Will WaPo column regarding Congress's very likely unconstitutional attempt to delegate its powers to the Federal Reserve:

http://tinyurl.com/bmszrbo

See if , among the jeering, snarky, gross and utterly disrespectful comments you can find just ONE that attempts to argue with Will "on the merits".

Then ask yourself how far the WaPo has fallen to attract such vile and disgusting "readers": steeped in ignorance, bereft of critical thinking skills, yet brimming with snotty certitude.

This is what we're in store for over the next few years, and maybe forever. From "A Republic of Virtue" to a Kakistocracy to a complete Idiocracy.

All since Reagan left office.




Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 17, 2012 11:41 AM (riIMi)

406 Cats are not pets. Dogs are. Dogs have appreciative and loving owners. Cats have staff.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 17, 2012 11:41 AM (jucos)

407 When they start talking about "temperament" and calling a politician a "firebrand", it means they are afraid of him and they can't sell the usual "he's an idiot" crap, so they are going to label him a toxic, angry loon.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 11:42 AM (6H6FZ)

408 Wasn't someone here yesterday calling on us to pick Rubio and some other noob right now for16?


......


PUHLEEZE!!


There were folks here trying to draft him before he even won election to the Senate!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:43 AM (piMMO)

409 Dude....like...let it burn man!
"How to invest in legalized weed" from smarty money:

http://tinyurl.com/bmubdly


Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 17, 2012 11:44 AM (PALjS)

410 I'd like to add a bit of optimism to the thread.

There's a guy named Patrick Geryl (History Channel "Ancient Aliens" type) who does earthquake predictions. He does not do location, he does date and approximate magnitude.

He's hit 11 in a row accurately.

Sees bad, bad things happening around the 21st of December. 10 + magnitude.

Mayan Apocalypse Bitchez!

Posted by: shibumi at November 17, 2012 11:44 AM (z63Tr)

411 I think you can get away with being abrasive if you are successful at delivering what you promised to the electorate. See Christie, Chris (even if we are pissed at him).

To me Allen West is a straight-shooter. We just need for him to have some bullets to shoot. I'm not interested in him becoming another person on the sidelines who talks the talk but doesn't have any responsibility. I'd like to see him have something to run that builds his experience and reputation.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:45 AM (5H6zj)

412 Scaramouche is an awesome film. Granger and Ferrer in that final battle across the opera house.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 11:46 AM (oZsll)

413 407 When they start talking about "temperament" and calling a politician a "firebrand", it means they are afraid of him and they can't sell the usual "he's an idiot" crap, so they are going to label him a toxic, angry loon.

.....

I don't know "they" of which you speak, but I can certainly make the distinction between someone being aggressive and someone being abrasive.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:46 AM (piMMO)

414
What will we make Stratocasters out of then?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 11:10 AM (lOmbq)

Time to learn the Banjo.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 11:46 AM (3Y7RV)

415 All since Reagan left office.




Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 17, 2012 11:41 AM (riIMi)
---------------------------------------------------------
Look at the leaders of the opposition too. We used to have thoughtful and intelligent discourse with the likes of Tip O'Neal and Moynihan and others. Now we have Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and other mental midgets like them.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 17, 2012 11:46 AM (jucos)

416
Boehner talk of reforming the entire tax code?
Lou Dobbs on The Fox Business Network


*Yawn* Wake me up when he starts talking about a flat tax of 10% combined with a balanced budget amendment that includes jail time for any Congresscritter that dares to spend one penny more.

Anything less than that is a waste of my precious nap time.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 11:47 AM (lOmbq)

417 Wasn't someone here yesterday calling on us to pick Rubio and some other noob right now for16?

====

He will be around later today, no doubt. Started by pushing for the noob to run as President.

Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2012 11:47 AM (z9HTb)

418 413 They=Left, et al. Definitely not you.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 11:47 AM (6H6FZ)

419 >>>To me Allen West is a straight-shooter. We just need for him to have some bullets to shoot. I'm not interested in him becoming another person on the sidelines who talks the talk but doesn't have any responsibility. I'd like to see him have something to run that builds his experience and reputation.

This.

I don't get how liking a candidate to have more experience is 'how we lose', but I'll rush out to check my mailbox for my Beltway Cocktail party invites.

Posted by: El Kabong, Vakarian/Wrex 2016 at November 17, 2012 11:48 AM (pzmYs)

420 Expecting Boehner to stand is pretty incredible. The Founding Fathers designed the House to be the one most prone to panic. It was the Senate, Senators selected by the states not by popular vote, that was designed to put the brakes on fevered dreams from the House. Well people yak about the Amendment that created the IRS, the one that made Senators super Representatives I think is far worse.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 11:48 AM (oZsll)

421 The GOP must die and a new Party must take its place.


HERE here...I'm ready! The Tea-Party ... just so we can lose the lable of "the party of the rich" only to be replaced by "the party of ha8ters"

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 11:49 AM (bUWh3)

422 Well people yak about the Amendment that created the IRS, the one that made Senators super Representatives I think is far worse.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 11:48 AM (oZsll)

Right on AP. Imagine the 30 GOP govenors appointing Senators. This Gov. would look far different.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 11:49 AM (3Y7RV)

423 meet you and your current mount upon t

Since the 06 Goats in the process of spitting a 1/2 shaft and I'm broke I'll decline. However I was ending something not starting it and you refuted precisely 0 of my points. Carbuerators are for people who want to fight with lawn tractors.

Posted by: DaveA at November 17, 2012 11:50 AM (MOWP1)

424 they can't sell the usual "he's an idiot" crap, so they are going to label him a toxic, angry loon.


Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 11:42 AM


Dude, I'm pretty damn angry these days. A candidate who is upset and forthright about it is a feature, not a bug.

I was reasonably happy with Romney overall, but wish he had fired back at some of Choom Boy's snarky little salvos. And forcefully pointed out the strong likelihood of fraud on election day.

Always had the impression the Traitor-in-Chief would have folded like a paper wall if anyone had had the balls to confront him. Still do.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 17, 2012 11:50 AM (yKUrR)

425 I'm really considering getting into the political game myself (school board, maybe, or city council) but I've got a few problems I'm not sure if I can overcome.

1- I'm not sure how to go about doing things like getting on the ballot etc. That should just take doing some homework, though.

2- I have no college degree. I'm a successful software developer (and better communicator than many) anyway, but somehow I don't think that will instill confidence.

3- I'm quickly running out of patience with "stupid," and I suspect I'd have to deal with a lot of "stupid" in either of those positions.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 11:50 AM (5DR1j)

426 411 I think you can get away with being abrasive if you are successful at delivering what you promised to the electorate. See Christie, Chris (even if we are pissed at him).

To me Allen West is a straight-shooter. We just need for him to have some bullets to shoot. I'm not interested in him becoming another person on the sidelines who talks the talk but doesn't have any responsibility. I'd like to see him have something to run that builds his experience and reputation.


......

Which is a good point.

People take a lot of shit off of that big-mouth Trump because, in the end, he IS a multi-millionaire and does know something of which he speaks. He Has actually delivered in his field of expertise.

Not that I think West us even remotely like Trump, only that you are correct in that a lot can be tolerated when that person has delivered to his stakeholders.

There is a use for him somewhere and if he loses this battle, I hope Reps remember how honorably he fought.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:52 AM (piMMO)

427 421
The GOP must die and a new Party must take its place.


HERE here...I'm ready! The Tea-Party ... just so we can
lose the lable of "the party of the rich" only to be replaced by "the
party of ha8ters"

Count me in, party of haters baby!!

Posted by: shibumi at November 17, 2012 11:53 AM (z63Tr)

428 2- I have no college degree. I'm a successful software developer (and better communicator than many) anyway, but somehow I don't think that will instill confidence.

.....

Scott Walker doesn't have a degree

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 11:53 AM (piMMO)

429 Well people yak about the Amendment that created the IRS, the one that made Senators super Representatives I think is far worse.

Between them, I call them the "anti-federalism amendments."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 11:54 AM (5DR1j)

430 427 421
The GOP must die and a new Party must take its place.


HERE here...I'm ready! The Tea-Party ... just so we can
lose the lable of "the party of the rich" only to be replaced by "the
party of ha8ters"

Count me in, party of haters baby!!
Posted by: shibumi at November 17, 2012 11:53 AM (z63Tr)


It needs a new name whatever it is. The MFM has sullied everthing good we have accomplished through their propagrandizing of the low info voter.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 11:54 AM (3Y7RV)

431
I'm really considering getting into the political game myself (school board, maybe, or city council) but I've got a few problems I'm not sure if I can overcome.

I'd consider something along those lines, but my problem isn't the skeletons in my closet, it's the fact that my closet is constructed entirely out of skeletons.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 11:55 AM (lOmbq)

432 For those feeling a little sorry for the Teamsters who voted to accept Hostess' offer and then got sandbagged by the Bakers;

It was a 53 to 46 vote. Almost half the Teamsters said "let it burn" too

Posted by: kbdabear at November 17, 2012 11:55 AM (wwsoB)

433 There is a use for him somewhere and if he loses this battle, I hope Reps remember how honorably he fought.
----
Is there any appointed position in Florida that Scott could give him which would be a meaningful way for him to build his political creds?

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 11:55 AM (5H6zj)

434 Geez, I'm making an observation on how the Dems are going to try to de-nut Col. West and people here think I am disagreeing with them? I'd follow Col West through Hell with a flamethrower. My point, which I failed to make, is that we have to start punching back at people who want to define us to our disadvantage. And yes, if Romney could counter-punch he might be picking his cabinet today.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 11:56 AM (6H6FZ)

435 Winning small-district elections is actually formulaic... There is a recipe for it, just like there is a recipe for baking a cake.

Just like you don't experiment with the recipe until you are really good, you shouldn't fuck with the plan for winning.

In almost every case where we fuck up a winnable race, it's becaus someone, and it's usually but not always be candidate, fucks up one of the simple steps.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 11:58 AM (I2LwF)

436 Is there any appointed position in Florida that Scott could give him which would be a meaningful way for him to build his political creds?


......


Ooh! There must be something!

Perhaps he can tackle welfare fraud. Scott tried to pass drug-testing for welfare recipients but failed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:00 PM (piMMO)

437 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 11:50 AM (5DR1j)

2 -- Who cares? You made something of yourself. Never be defensive about the lack of credentials. You are articulate and I suspect you have taken a few college course that many would fail.

3 -- Learn to smile and nod.

Posted by: fluffy at November 17, 2012 12:00 PM (z9HTb)

438 Winning small-district elections is actually formulaic... There is a
recipe for it, just like there is a recipe for baking a cake.


What's the formula?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 12:00 PM (5DR1j)

439 My point, which I failed to make, is that we have to start punching back at people who want to define us to our disadvantage.
---
FWIW, I understood that was your point.

I think there's a balance to be struck between straight-talking newcomers and Establishment Republicans. Neither is perfect. We need a mix of them. If we have a promising person coming up from the outside, we need to make sure they have the "resume" to be a "legitimate" candidate to the folks who give to the Party and who run the Party so they don't fall victim to lackluster support or redistricting nonsense.

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 12:01 PM (5H6zj)

440 Put Allen West in charge of reforming the state prosecutor's office. Then have West start by keelhauling the idiots persecuting Zimmerman.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 12:01 PM (oZsll)

441 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 11:50 AM (5DR1j)

1. Research.... and go to a few meetings of whatever you want to run for....

2. The lack of a College degree would HELP in some areas... just not with either Academia, or the Blue Blood crowd.... the rest of America really does not care if you have a degree in some Liberal Subject.

3. I submit that Americans are ready to back an Angry Man.... as long as he is not an out of control MAD Man.... note the Chris Christie effect.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2012 12:01 PM (lZBBB)

442 What's the formula?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 17, 2012 12:00 PM (5DR1j)

It begins with an assfull of shoeleather and door knocking and a crew that supports you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:02 PM (3Y7RV)

443 290
41 Insty has a link to a newspaper from Bangor, Maine. Idiot Hostess workers think they won by dragging the company under.

Posted by: Secundus at November 17, 2012 07:50 AM (g3jwX)



Isn't that what unions are for these days?

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 17, 2012 10:40 AM

Reminds me of this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

Posted by: kbdabear at November 17, 2012 12:02 PM (wwsoB)

444 434 Geez, I'm making an observation on how the Dems are going to try to de-nut Col. West and people here think I am disagreeing with them? I'd follow Col West through Hell with a flamethrower. My point, which I failed to make, is that we have to start punching back at people who want to define us to our disadvantage. And yes, if Romney could counter-punch he might be picking his cabinet today.


....

I apologize for misunderstanding.

I do agree with your sentiment

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:02 PM (piMMO)

445 The President has met with Al Sharpton to talk about the budget. Given Tom Hank's eager support of Obama, as well as his role of Sherman McCoy in Bonfire of the Vanities, I presume he thinks it's all right and proper.

Seeing as how politics having trumped all else.

Posted by: A. at November 17, 2012 12:02 PM (Wn5aN)

446 Perhaps he can tackle welfare fraud. Scott tried to pass drug-testing for welfare recipients but failed.
-----
Welfare Czar!


Another idea might be to set Allen West up with a non-profit that is sort of the counter-weight to Jesse Jackson's old stuff (you know, back in the dark ages when his supposed message was largely about getting blacks to have self-respect and not rely on handouts). Allen West, Community Organizer! That's the ticket!

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 12:04 PM (5H6zj)

447 The President has met with Al Sharpton to talk about the budget.

That was prolly just talking points for little Al's show.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:04 PM (3Y7RV)

448 I doubt Hanks would even agree that Bonfire should be made into a film today--much less star in it. Perhaps I am wrong. I doubt it.

Posted by: A. at November 17, 2012 12:04 PM (Wn5aN)

449 I hope he enjoys prison.

I hope he get's fucked in the ass every day until he dies. I'm not big lover of hairballs, the wife is. Though I must admit they have grown on me ...right up until I step in a hairball in the middle of the night going to pee.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 12:04 PM (bUWh3)

450 >>>447 The President has met with Al Sharpton to talk about the budget.

1) Start riots in Jewish neighborhoods resulting in deaths.
2) ???
3) PROFIT!

Posted by: El Kabong, Vakarian/Wrex 2016 at November 17, 2012 12:05 PM (pzmYs)

451 Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 12:04 PM (5H6zj)

You Know, that's almost brilliant in it's simplicity.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:05 PM (3Y7RV)

452 I'd consider something along those lines, but my problem isn't the skeletons in my closet, it's the fact that my closet is constructed entirely out of skeletons.


....


They're dead hobos, aren't they?


You can tell us.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:05 PM (piMMO)

453 It begins with an assfull of shoeleather and door knocking and a crew that supports you.

And ends there too. Although there are other steps in between.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 17, 2012 12:05 PM (I2LwF)

454 Well, I should go walk the dog or rake leaves or clean the house or...

Later gators!

Posted by: Y-not at November 17, 2012 12:05 PM (5H6zj)

455 Watch this video and see if you can maintain eye contact;

http://tinyurl.com/cqg7h6h

Posted by: kbdabear at November 17, 2012 12:06 PM (wwsoB)

456
They're dead hobos, aren't they?


You can tell us.


Well, most of them are. Look for the missing femurs. Hey, check out this little white harmonica, I made it myself!

And then there's that unfortunate incident with the Eagle Scout and the chainsaw in Guntersille...but I was aquitted.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 12:09 PM (lOmbq)

457 Having someone build her raised beds or do some pretty landscaping work
(like installing a fountain or gazebo or "dry scaping") could be a nice
gift.]/i]

Have all the materials to do just that, sitting under cover...waiting for "the time". She will enjoy doing it herself, more than having someone else build it ...not to her expectations...very fussy, in a good way.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 12:09 PM (bUWh3)

458 453 It begins with an assfull of shoeleather and door knocking and a crew that supports you.

And ends there too. Although there are other steps in between.


.....

This.

Here in Jax we've had both a sheriff and a mayor, both very dark horses, take office by putting boots on the ground.

Every time the shoo-in gets too cocky, it's the tried and true approach that takes them down.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:10 PM (piMMO)

459 Yay!!! We're joking about rape @ AoS!!!

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:10 PM (XDC0v)

460 459 Yay!!! We're joking about rape @ AoS!!!
Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:10 PM (XDC0v)

I think it was the prison ass rape of a kitty killer. That's not Rape Rape.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:12 PM (3Y7RV)

461 Do you think on a daily basis that more men or women get raped in the U.S.?

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:12 PM (XDC0v)

462 461 Do you think on a daily basis that more men or women get raped in the U.S.?
Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:12 PM (XDC0v)

You don't really want to get in to this do you? I won't play along.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:13 PM (3Y7RV)

463 Oh for god's sake do you know how many cats my local shelter kills every month? 300 last time I looked

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:14 PM (XDC0v)

464 You don't really want to get in to this do you? I won't play along.

....

I'm in this camp

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:14 PM (piMMO)

465 Osp get into what? Play along with what? Too cryptic for me-

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:15 PM (XDC0v)

466 444 Thanks. I could have done a better job. I'm so aggravated that we don't back our people better. I can see the Dems trying to make him toxic and I see not one word from the GOP to back him up.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 12:16 PM (6H6FZ)

467
Oh for god's sake do you know how many cats my local shelter kills every month? 300 last time I looked

.....

Did you even read the damn article?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:16 PM (piMMO)

468 I really wasn't inviting anyone to do anything, so if you think you're declining an invitation...

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:16 PM (XDC0v)

469 I am sure this has been asked before but I will ask again.So the house has control of the purse strings or so I am told.And the Republicans are in control of the house and have been for some time.And they are in control of the house because people wanted the spending stopped.Yet they do not stop it, why is this?

The senate hasn't passed a budget since '09. How can you hold non-existent purse strings?

Posted by: RushBabe, up for SMOD or LIB, whichever comes first at November 17, 2012 12:17 PM (tQHzJ)

470 Anonymous love them some terrorists;

Israel Releases Another Gaza Pinpoint Strike Video, Anonymous Retaliates By Taking Down IDF Blog

Via Paulbot Zero Hedge of course;

http://tinyurl.com/beukb6h



Posted by: kbdabear at November 17, 2012 12:17 PM (wwsoB)

471 no, I don't think Boehner is a coward.

I just don't think he sees himself as an ideologue, but as a "statesman".
-----------
As Berke Breathed said in "Bloom County" way back in the day...

"A statesman...is a dead politician. Heaven knows, we could use more statesmen."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 17, 2012 12:17 PM (5J54Q)

472 461 Do you think on a daily basis that more men or women get raped in the U.S.?
Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:12 PM (XDC0v)



As a purely academic, clinical exercise, if you count jails, prisons and British boarding schools, I'd say it's pretty close.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2012 12:17 PM (XkWWK)

473 396
This is the perfect gift:
http://tinyurl.com/bjf5pq8


BINGO...NOW you got something I can use. We have looked at different movable chicken house design, and I figured I'd have to build it on my own. We do not have chickens ... yet....again time. But they are on the list. My neighbor is raising his own, and I've already talked to be about bartering to get a few, when we are ready. BRILLIANT!! Now will the local Willams Sonoma's store have this in stock behind te copper bottom pots?

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 12:18 PM (bUWh3)

474 -----------
As Berke Breathed said in "Bloom County" way back in the day...

"A statesman...is a dead politician. Heaven knows, we could use more statesmen."
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 17, 2012 12:17 PM (5J54Q)


I so miss that comical common sense.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:18 PM (3Y7RV)

475 470 Anonymous love them some terrorists;

Israel Releases Another Gaza Pinpoint Strike Video, Anonymous Retaliates By Taking Down IDF Blog

Via Paulbot Zero Hedge of course;

http://tinyurl.com/beukb6h



......

Speaking of prison rape, how long before someone gets serious about taking those fuckers down?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:18 PM (piMMO)

476 I wasn't condoning the idiot's behavior by any means- that's the first thing i guess i need to establish for some reason. My point was about prison rape- which was studiously not addressed for some reason. First, are there some crimes that deserve rape as a punishment? And second, is killing a cat, no matter how unjustifiably, one of them?

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:19 PM (XDC0v)

477 The lack of a College degree would HELP in some areas... just not with
either Academia, or the Blue Blood crowd.... the rest of America really
does not care if you have a degree in some Liberal Subject.


Scott Walker never finished his degree. He was an Eagle Scout, though.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 17, 2012 12:20 PM (/kI1Q)

478 Speaking of prison rape, how long before someone gets serious about taking those fuckers down?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:18 PM (piMMO)

They would be hard to find. I'm sure at this point Mosaad is setting up some covert op to address this.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:20 PM (3Y7RV)

479 330. Deficit Cake? ROFL!! Marxist Bread..

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:20 PM (4WesI)

480
I don't have skeletons in my closet -- I have whole cemeteries.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (tOkJB)

481 Yet another commercial for Red Dawn. I wonder if I should catch a matinee to see how bad it is. Start the whole experience by speaking Russian to the ticket tool. Fatigues, combat boots, and looking a bit paranoid might help also.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (oZsll)

482
I so miss that comical common sense.

I miss Calvin and Hobbes.

OK y'all, my Tide are playing Western Carolina in a few minutes, a team they should trounce. And yes, I said that last week, too.

BBL...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (lOmbq)

483 I suspect that male rape is far more common. Though I neither know nor do I believe anyone else does really

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (XDC0v)

484 I don't have skeletons in my closet -- I have whole cemeteries.
Posted by: Ed Anger at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (tOkJB)

Yep, the Meth adventure punctuated by jail in my twenties pretty much rules me out.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:22 PM (3Y7RV)

485 Ann Coulter: Demography is Destiny.
http://tinyurl.com/ax5os9y

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 12:22 PM (RhENW)

486 Guys! Has Akin taught you nothing!?

Posted by: elizabethe at November 17, 2012 12:22 PM (ou/rY)

487 I thought Skyfall was especially good

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:22 PM (XDC0v)

488 Soon Michelle will have all the Kid's Cereal Nationalized.

Comrade Crunch
Redistribution Bran

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:22 PM (4WesI)

489 481 Yet another commercial for Red Dawn. I wonder if I should catch a matinee to see how bad it is. Start the whole experience by speaking Russian to the ticket tool. Fatigues, combat boots, and looking a bit paranoid might help also.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (oZsll)

HAHA, I wish I lived closer, I'd go with you.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:23 PM (3Y7RV)

490 488 Soon Michelle will have all the Kid's Cereal Nationalized.

Comrade Crunch
Redistribution Bran
Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:22 PM (4WesI)

Lucky Chooms?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:24 PM (3Y7RV)

491 Comrade Crunch
Redistribution Bran


Shredded Rights

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 17, 2012 12:24 PM (/kI1Q)

492
Hi gang! I'm sure you've seen it by now, but I'm laughing about the Arizona gun shop owner who put up a poster in his shop saying if you voted for Obamahe won't sell you a gun because you have shown you are too irresponsible to own one.

Hee hee.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 17, 2012 12:25 PM (1Y+hH)

493 Mark Steyn: Tribal America.
http://tinyurl.com/cujfhfy

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 12:25 PM (RhENW)

494 I miss Calvin and Hobbes.

I look at C and H every day.

http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes

Posted by: real joe, call me Dude at November 17, 2012 12:25 PM (PD2ad)

495 481. The original script had the Chinese invading America in the Red Dawn remake. Off course the our Chinese Owners protested, so they made it the North Koreans.

Does anybody think the North Koreans have the resources to invade this country, they cannot even feed their own people

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:25 PM (4WesI)

496 "470Anonymous love them some terrorists;" Wow, they must have finished their aimbots for the new Mighty Morphin Power Rangers game early. Those kids are geniuses!

Posted by: the lone lemon at November 17, 2012 12:25 PM (xXhWA)

497 I meant Halo, whatever

Posted by: the lone lemon at November 17, 2012 12:25 PM (xXhWA)

498 They would be hard to find. I'm sure at this point Mosaad is setting up some covert op to address this.

.....


You just made me happy.

OF COURSE!

The Mossad!

They've now screwed with the wrong fellas.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:26 PM (piMMO)

499 Shredded Rights
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 17, 2012 12:24 PM (/kI1Q)

Prolly not frosted either huh?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:27 PM (3Y7RV)

500 Water is falling out of the sky. Being from So Cal, this phenomenon is mystifying to me.

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:27 PM (XDC0v)

501
In other news, as Obama tells us things are getting better, a new govt report say 712,000 more people slipped under the poverty line in 2011.



I guess for Obama that is better, as more poverty seems to be his goal.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 17, 2012 12:27 PM (1Y+hH)

502 Spelled mistifying wrong

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:27 PM (XDC0v)

503 The original script had the Chinese invading America in the Red Dawn
remake. Off course the our Chinese Owners protested, so they made it the
North Koreans.


80% tax on overseas gross movie receipts.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 17, 2012 12:28 PM (/kI1Q)

504
My Calvin Hobbs sticker on my car:


http://tinyurl.com/az4wjce

Posted by: the lone lemon at November 17, 2012 12:28 PM (xXhWA)

505 500 Water is falling out of the sky. Being from So Cal, this phenomenon is mystifying to me.
Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:27 PM (XDC0v)

It's God pissing on the heathens.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:28 PM (3Y7RV)

506 Does anybody think the North Koreans have the resources to invade this country, they cannot even feed their own people

.....

No, but its not because of a lack of wealth so pervasive that they can't feed their people.

It's because of corruption.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:28 PM (piMMO)

507 >> It was a 53 to 46 vote. Almost half the Teamsters said "let it burn" too.

kb, not only that, but under 75% of the Teamsters voted at all on the contract. So it more accurately reflected what we just saw in The Tragedy Of Nov. 6th, 2012.

With their livelihoods on the line, a good chunk of them couldn't make it off of the couch.

My Give-o-Shit meter is still broken. Poor poor unions.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 17, 2012 12:29 PM (ccXZP)

508 Solidarity Snacks

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 12:29 PM (d/5qf)

509 Benevolent Comrade Tony Tiger

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:29 PM (4WesI)

510 Never thought I'd say this, but...

Ann Coulter makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 17, 2012 12:30 PM (E1Vkf)

511 Class Struggle Corn Flakes

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 12:31 PM (d/5qf)

512 Speaking of prison rape, how long before someone gets serious about taking those fuckers down?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 17, 2012 12:18 PM

I'd like to tell you that Andy fought the good fight and The Sisters let him be. I wish I could tell you that. But prison is no fairy tale world ...

Posted by: Red Boyd at November 17, 2012 12:31 PM (wwsoB)

513 Shredded Rights, now with Frosted Nuts.

Posted by: real joe is going Lebowski, call me Dude at November 17, 2012 12:31 PM (PD2ad)

514 503. Good start, but that only hurts the Studios. We want to hurt the Actors and starlets who make those 20 million paychecks. 80% for them also.
Then Chomsky Studios can take over Hollywood

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:32 PM (4WesI)

515 NOOD

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 17, 2012 12:32 PM (3Y7RV)

516 Lucky Bolsheviks

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:33 PM (4WesI)

517 Special K
(K is for Kommunism)

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 12:33 PM (d/5qf)

518 It needs a new name whatever it is. The MFM has sullied everthing good
we have accomplished through their propagrandizing of the low info
voter.


Fuck-em. They will line up and atack whatever name we come up with. Embrace it and wear it proudly...I think there are more of us in their ranks than they think. It' "The party of the Rich" lable that holds them in check. They will embrace "The Party of H8ter!" cuz they be pissed off too.

Posted by: Paladin at November 17, 2012 12:33 PM (bUWh3)

519 Malcom Xtra Smacks

Posted by: Jack J at November 17, 2012 12:33 PM (4WesI)

520 the Arizona gun shop owner who put up a poster in his shop saying if you voted for Obama he won't sell you a gun because you have shown you are too irresponsible to own one.


I was thinking of giving prospective clients a questionnaire asking whether they voted for JEPOS, but as someone pointed out, in blue NY, I wouldn't be getting any new clients.

Posted by: real joe is going Lebowski, call me Dude at November 17, 2012 12:33 PM (PD2ad)

521 Proletarian Puffs

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 12:33 PM (d/5qf)

522 492 Meremortal,

That gun shop owner didn't just put a poster up in his window, he ran a freakin' ad in the local rag saying TFG voters not welcome.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 17, 2012 12:34 PM (ccXZP)

523 Honey Nut Commie-os

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 17, 2012 12:34 PM (E1Vkf)

524 Speaking of which, why did earlier Bond movies have more female nudity than they do now? It isn't because we've become more puritan I think

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:34 PM (XDC0v)

525 Redistributionist Krispies

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 12:35 PM (d/5qf)

526 Uncle Sugar Smacks

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:35 PM (XDC0v)

527 Soviet Crisp

Posted by: chemjeff at November 17, 2012 12:35 PM (d/5qf)

528 Queerios

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:36 PM (XDC0v)

529 Treason Bran

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:36 PM (XDC0v)

530 Scorn Chex

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:38 PM (XDC0v)

531 Apple Jackasses

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:38 PM (XDC0v)

532 Captain Free Lunch with Free Lunchberries

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:40 PM (XDC0v)

533 Vice Krispies

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:41 PM (XDC0v)

534 Cheaties

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 17, 2012 12:41 PM (E1Vkf)

535 Recount Chocula

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:42 PM (XDC0v)

536 I think Rick Santorum was an under-rated candidate who did a lot with a little. He also addressed demographics, which is the real issue. Race is demographics, but so is family. If America consisted of intact families, Republicans would rarely lose, and / or the Democratic Party would have to become more conservative.

But it's hard for Republican candidates to win financial support if they break with the liberal consensus on key social issue (for mass immigration and forced integration and assimilation, for anti-White "affirmative action" and for breaking up the traditional family structure).

http://tinyurl.com/apgmpbx

Santorum’s dissatisfaction extends beyond the general election to the
primary process from which Romney emerged victorious. “What I found out
in the Republican primary is that the donor class of Republicans are
different from the donor class of Democrats,” he said, in that
Republican moneymen are more reluctant to put money behind dark-horse
candidates. (Though casino mogul Sheldon Adelson did spend $16.5 million
backing former House speaker Newt Gingrich before donating millions to
the Romney campaign.) Santorum said that Republican donors “want a
return on their investment,” but that “most people who are giving that
money don’t know the first thing about what it takes to win.” Santorum
lamented that they take their cues from political pundits who are
similarly ignorant and “live in big blue counties,” to boot.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 12:42 PM (RhENW)

537 @423. Decent of you to back down like that.
I have found the easiest way to keep a carburetor in tune is to apply a consistent eight pounds of induction pressure, from the factory. My Prestolite dual points have required replacement once in the last 25 years. And, MMMV, from 16 to 21, quite similar to your car, I believe.

I get it, you're awfully proud of your car. That's great. But don't think for a moment there was no highly-developed automotive technology before you. Frankly, I think I can outhandle you. Let me know if you get it running again.


Posted by: comatus at November 17, 2012 12:44 PM (qaVK+)

538 No Bond movies ever had nudity. Scantily clad yes, but not nudity.

Posted by: real joe is going Lebowski, call me Dude at November 17, 2012 12:45 PM (PD2ad)

539 Wait. You're getting 16-21 out of WHAT??? And how you like adjusting them points?

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:46 PM (XDC0v)

540 #538 Well even if it never happened i still miss it

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:47 PM (XDC0v)

541 Lightworker, I have liked Santorum for a long time, but I got a little disenchanted with him in the primaries. His whiny attitude really turned me off.

I would have no problem pulling the lever in any other election, but he would have been slaughtered in the general. It wouldn't have even been close.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 17, 2012 12:48 PM (E1Vkf)

542 Later, 'rons. I'm going to go clean guns and daydream about Colt Pythons slow moving Zombies.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 12:50 PM (6H6FZ)

543 Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 17, 2012 12:21 PM (oZsll)

When inside Scream WOLVERINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! & light a Brick of Firecrackers

Posted by: Evilpens at November 17, 2012 12:50 PM (ck76k)

544 503 80% tax on overseas gross movie receipts.
-
Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts!

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 12:51 PM (RhENW)

545 Hey Surfer Doc we should go shootin' sometime. Hodge road outside of Victorville

Posted by: DAve at November 17, 2012 12:54 PM (XDC0v)

546 Foist! Mutha !!!!!!!
Ban that arse hole.

Posted by: Sandman Has hate to spare now at November 17, 2012 12:59 PM (zxaA2)

547 LMAO on the cereal names.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 17, 2012 01:01 PM (ou/rY)

548 541 Lightworker, I have liked Santorum for a long time, but I got a little disenchanted with him in the primaries. His whiny attitude really turned me off.
-
A lot of people say that. Which means he was a flawed candidate.

541 I would have no problem pulling the lever in any other election, but he would have been slaughtered in the general. It wouldn't have even been close.
-
I think so. My explanation for this defeat is demographics, not any flaw in Romney, so I think any Republican candidate would have lost, and Rick Santorum, being less likeable than Mitt Romney, would have lost worse.

But, before the election, when I was thinking "it's the economy, stupid" (at least in immediate electoral terms) and I was expecting Romney to win purely on the economy and then govern as he had run, with no real regard for any other issue, I was thinking, "How meaningful is this win? Not very, except that it relieves America of the burden of Obama. The real struggle will come after the election, when conservatives will have to lobby Romney continually not to agree to amnesty, not to appoint another David Souter to the Supreme Court and so on.

At some point, if conservatives are to get off the demographic conveyor belt that is leading them and traditional America to destruction, the Republican Party is going to have to nominate candidates who, if they were elected, would take on the root issues.

Mitt Romney wasn't such a candidate. (As far as I can see. We'll never know.) Rick Santorum was, though he could not have won.

That is why I was interested in his opinion on why it is hard for a Republican radical (like Reagan, who was all about getting to the root of things) to get financial support, though as we all know, a radical liberal such as Obama can easily get support from Democratic donors.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 01:07 PM (RhENW)

549 545 DaveA: Hodge Rd is no longer legal although I see ppl shooting there all the time. I go up by the Kramer Hills on the 395. Nice safe out of the way canyons and flats there and very little likelihood of being disturbed.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 17, 2012 01:12 PM (6H6FZ)

550 510 Never thought I'd say this, but...

Ann Coulter makes a lot of sense.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 17, 2012 12:30 PM (E1Vkf)
-
She does from time to time. Which puts her miles ahead of many "conservative" columnists who are consistently wrong, irrelevant, dull and not conservative.

I think, due to decades of mass immigration and the Democratic Party building a legally enforced structure of anti-White hostility, complete with "affirmative action," quotas, set-asides, and "disparate impact" lawsuits that race has become so central that pundits who keep dodging the issue to protect their respectability are going to be as irrelevant as the Whigs.

This is how elections are being decided, and this is how the future of America is being decided. (It is also how the West is failing as a whole, since mass immigration into all White countries and only White countries is a liberal principle in practice.) It's not a fight that conservatives wanted, but liberals have brought the fight to them, and here it is.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 01:25 PM (RhENW)

551 326 "The main thing Romney got wrong is that it wasn't 47% on the take, it is more like 52%."

Actually, if he was looking at the 2008 electorate, he was absolutely correct.

47% of 130 million is pretty close to 50.6% of 122 million.

TFG got a significant chunk of the 53% to stay home this time

Posted by: The Q at November 17, 2012 01:52 PM (w4fEE)

552 Begone, damn link still in the sock

Posted by: The Q at November 17, 2012 01:52 PM (w4fEE)

553 @Jack J, I'm not holding my breath expecting any Dems to challenge our latest worthless leader. On the other hand, locally we managed to put a tea party type or two in office and we have Jaime Herrera Beutler. Still pretty disappointing that McKenna couldn't win. If there's any state that proves how useless it is to run as a Dem Lite candidate, WA proves it every time.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 17, 2012 01:59 PM (uPhCY)

554 What we were up against:
http://tinyurl.com/brq42fo

We need to push for higher taxes on all the companies involved. They don't vote Repub anyway and they certainly have not been paying their fair share.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 17, 2012 02:22 PM (uPhCY)

555 Oh yeah and I also think we need to be better educated on our history (all the docs leading up to the Consitution for example) and on economics. And we are going to need to go out into the world and start to hijack the Web to get our points across. If we can't find a forum to use, we will have to build our own. We need to create something that is entertaining and will educate low info voters. That's way more important that trying to sort out who to run in 2014.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 17, 2012 02:47 PM (uPhCY)






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