Bad News: Meghan McCain Wants To See Some Changes In the GOP, Or She's Going to Stop Being a Republican

Hm.

The hell of it is, the party is actually currently considering most of Meghan McCain's prescriptions.

Second look at Meghan McCain?

I know there are many out there, especially in the more conservative sphere, that regard me with disdain. I donít fit into the traditional Republican box that the wingnuts who have hijacked my party think all Republicans should. For the last four years, Iíve been calling for Republicans to stop concentrating on social issues. I am a single woman in my 20s and that fact alone gave me the perspective that I donít want to regulate a womanís right to choice. I am pro-life, but because life is complicated, that choice is between a woman and her idea of a higher power. I believe if Roe vs. Wade were repealed, abortion would still go on. I care more about my economy, national security, and fiscal conservatism than I do about what other woman do with their bodies. Itís not my place, and I donít believe itís the governmentís place, to make such decisions.

I also donít believe itís the governmentís role to tell gays and lesbians that they canít be given the same opportunities in American just because of who they love. I think America needs a better immigration policy and immigrants who were brought here illegally as children shouldnít be deported. I have said all of these things over the past four years and these issues have been important to the demographics that the Democrats carried on Election Dayósingle women, minorities, and young people.

...

And if we donít move forward, adapt, and become relevant again, the Republican Party isnít going to survive. It will just continue to alienate more moderate voters like myself. If I donít see some changes in the next four years, Iím going to consider registering as an Independent in 2016.

Posted by: Ace at 07:25 PM



Comments

1 Promise?!?!?!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:26 PM (FNNXm)

2 Give her a break, she lost someone close to her today: Twinkies.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:27 PM (IF7Sq)

3 Twinkie withdrawl is a bitch.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:27 PM (Pdnm2)

4 You ate my post!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:27 PM (FNNXm)

5 Second look at Meghan McCain?

Well, now that she can't get any more Twinkies, maybe.

Nah, I'm just kidding. There's to little time left to justify dating stupid.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (hO9ad)

6 Good riddance. She can take her father and Grahamnesty with her.

Posted by: Chris at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (HJnSy)

7 ugh 1st?

Posted by: wth? at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (EZTwi)

8 Look at MM? Do we hate ourselves?

Posted by: Duh! at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (Zs83Q)

9 Shit we may start looking anorexic if she leaves!

Posted by: Adam at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (/YJYi)

10 I think we've listened to quite enough Republican blue-bloods. The fact she's a blonde who has never held a real job doesn't help, of course.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (uhAkr)

11 Maggie Mac??

I'm going OT: Fiona Apple.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2012 07:28 PM (BeSEI)

12
"Second look at Meghan McCain?"

No! And you can't make me.

So there.

Posted by: wheatie at November 16, 2012 07:29 PM (ICEh3)

13 Show your tits or STFU Meggie

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:29 PM (GEICT)

14 >>Second look at Meghan McCain?

It'll take more than that if you want to see it all.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:29 PM (Pdnm2)

15 And Romney was some kind of bomb-throwing Uber-Con?

Dafuq?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 16, 2012 07:29 PM (4h0z0)

16 Though, I should say it would take a second look to get the entire view.

Posted by: Duh! at November 16, 2012 07:29 PM (Zs83Q)

17 Give her a break, she lost someone close to her today: Twinkies

Why did I just have a visual of Meggie McJugs lying face-down and naked in a pool of Twinkie filling?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:29 PM (FNNXm)

18 I would like to schmear her breastacles with peanut butter.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (jucos)

19 I'll bet she's taking the newfound dearth of Twinkies pretty hard.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (9SwFX)

20 She's just going through ding song withdrawal. There is a bad sex joke in what I just wrote I just figure out what it is

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (0PiQ4)

21 Slap your ass and ride the wave out, kiddo.

Posted by: The Myserious Mister M at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (K24Ca)

22 Wow....she's really deep. Vacuous, too.

Posted by: billygoat at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (CfGGV)

23
Let her have the party.


Register independent.


Let It Burn.


We'll pick up the pieces later. I believe this will be faster than the path we have been following. I went Indy in 2007 when I realized Republicans were not going to address our fiscal problems in any meaningful way.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (1Y+hH)

24 Oh, and a word about registered "independents."

If there is a more smug, self-centered member of the voting populace, I have yet to find him. These are the kids who never got any attention as a child, so they relish their importance - an importance that comes around every four years.

Douchebags like Michael Smerconish are registered Independent.

A college classmate of mine (also an "I") once told me - with a smirk on his face - politicians have to earn my vote.

Fuck. You

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (IF7Sq)

25 I hope she doesn't leave too quickly or we just might tip over.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (jucos)

26 As with most well off lefties, Meggie Mac thinks that the group suffering the most is teh gheys. Even though they tend to be found in the highest paid professions and have Hollywood as a giant bullhorn. I challenge you to find one Family Guy episode that doesn't engage in special pleading for teh gheys

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (wwsoB)

27 Holy shit, Jose Wejebe died? Damn.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (Pdnm2)

28 if we don't move forward and become relevant again......lol....i think she's giving herself a pep talk

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (Ho2rs)

29 "Come here, Meggie. I have the world's last package of Twinkies"

"Again? Where do you keep finding them?"

Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (O6q63)

30 I know there are many out there, especially in the more conservative sphere, that regard me with disdain.

You don't know the half of it.

Posted by: physics geek at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (llWHs)

31 Itís not my place, and I donít believe itís the governmentís place, to make such decisions.

It's government's place to avenge the innocent. Unless you want to disband the justice system entirely and leave justice to sufficiently armed private citizens.

Which I'm not entirely against, mind you.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (hO9ad)

32 Oh no. Not that. Anything but that.

Please don't do this. And please don't encourage your "conservative" buddies in the MSM to do likewise.

You know, Meg, if I thought you wasn't my friend, I just don't think I could bear it.

Posted by: Secundus at November 16, 2012 07:31 PM (g3jwX)

33 Oh, and a word about registered "independents."

If there is a more smug, self-centered member of the voting populace, I have yet to find him.


This right here is scripture.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 16, 2012 07:32 PM (uhAkr)

34 Hey megan whether we make changes or not....go find another fucking pasture.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:32 PM (LRFds)

35 "life is complicated"

GMAFB

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 07:32 PM (60GaT)

36 11...Fiona Apple...yum-yum crazy!!!

Posted by: billygoat at November 16, 2012 07:32 PM (CfGGV)

37 Meghan is cute for a fat pig of a woman with no job experience, skills, or talents. But she does have big ol titties.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 16, 2012 07:32 PM (VrVBw)

38
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:30 PM (IF7Sq)

___ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___


Your brush is much too broad.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 07:32 PM (1Y+hH)

39 Thanks, Bevel. They always irked me.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (IF7Sq)

40 Someone at Daily Beast had better send an intern to get Meggie a couple cases of Drakes cakes before she starts eating the crayons

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (wwsoB)

41
what part of what she says here is wrong ? there are many voters who were being swayed by romney's common sense fiscal policy but were still scared away from voting republican since the party is perceived (and regrettably, rightfully so) as being filled with folks who want to impose their religious beliefs on everyone.
once upon a time...not so long ago...the republicans were seen as the party of business. now, we areseen asthe party of religious wingnuts. either we do something about that, or we're in trouble. the scopes monkey trials are over and we're never going back there again.

Posted by: el polacko at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (H+1aM)

42 If she were to get stranded in Blue land and Sean and I tried to rescue her....I mean what do you use?

A John Deere?

A Blackhawk with a special sling?

I've never evacuated anything that large.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (LRFds)

43 Ah mah gawd.

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (BVkEs)

44 The faster she leaves the better.

Posted by: Iblis at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (ydw68)

45
I'm seeing a hookup between Meggy Mac and Chris Christi. Twinkies and Ho Ho's after the bump ugly session.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (lDWQr)

46 "And if we donít move forward, adapt, and become relevant again"

I think she's talking to herself here....

Posted by: Mindy at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (6jLT3)

47 She wants to help us move forward. Get it?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (6JMZR)

48 24 Wyatt Earp,


Now Wyatt you were friends with a democrat once...

yeah I am thinking maybe we need to rename the GOP Free Shit party and not change a thing....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (LRFds)

49 Gawd, are we reduced to taking advice from that retarded twit?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (QKKT0)

50 FEED ME, GOP! FEED ME!

Posted by: Meggie Mac of Horrors at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (uhAkr)

51 I think you mean 'The faster she leaves, the more butter.'.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (Pdnm2)

52 spoiled bratz doll speaks

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (0PiQ4)

53 I believe the operative word here is "blousy"

or as Hannibal Lector put it, "roomy"

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (Dnbau)

54
Your brush is much too broad.


Sorry, forgot to add: YMMV. Better?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (IF7Sq)

55 Your brush is much too broad.

And yet, it still won't cover Meggie's ass.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (FNNXm)

56 LiB

Lard in Butter

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (6JMZR)

57 Hey h8rs!!!...I like Ho-Ho's not Twinkies!!!

Posted by: Meggy Macncheese at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (CfGGV)

58 I'd hit it so hard she'd vote for Santorum.

Posted by: WTF Do I Know at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (HtUdo)

59 I am already getting really fucking sick of the circular firing squad.

I understand the Republican brand and messaging need some serious tweaking, but can even our deep bench (Jindal and Martinez, I am looking at you) quit attentionwhoring and accepting the MSM premise that Republicans are all racists for fuck's sake, we are broke, the government is corrupt, the President is a SCOAMF and we are all in for an assraping of epic proportions brought on by this feckless party-how about tying the FAIL to the democrats, and keep pounding THAT message, to ALL Americans, for the next few years? Christ almighty, I hate this piling on. and Megan, STFU! Democrats always circle the wagons, R's NEVER do.

Posted by: goldilocks at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (OETVg)

60 Well as they say in the South, "Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!"

Posted by: MorphysGhost at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (tDieS)

61
Meggy was the Mattel model for Fat Barbie!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (lDWQr)

62 What night is Glee on again?

Posted by: Meghan McCain, Real Republican at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (wwsoB)

63 I also donít believe itís the governmentís role to tell gays and
lesbians that they canít be given the same opportunities in American
just because of who they love.



There is SO MUCH FAIL in that sentence. Could a sentient being possibly have written it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (QKKT0)

64
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:34 PM (IF7Sq)

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I'll take it.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (1Y+hH)

65 If she were to get stranded in Blue land and Sean and I tried to rescue her....I mean what do you use?

This: http://tinyurl.com/c8nzh4r might work.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (SP4jC)

66 Sure Maggie, but first, you will blow me.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (QupBk)

67 45 I'm seeing a hookup between Meggy Mac and Chris Christi. Twinkies and Ho Ho's afterthe bumpugly session.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (lDWQr)

Creak. Creak. CRUNCH.

Posted by: The bed frame at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (g3jwX)

68 yeah I am thinking maybe we need to rename the GOP Free Shit party and not change a thing....

Messaging, messaging, messaging... for the dopes.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (IF7Sq)

69 Well as they say in the South, "Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!"

I don't think we have to worry about that in this particular case.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (6JMZR)

70 she's just repeating what the last guy she dated said to her

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (Dnbau)

71 63 There is SO MUCH FAIL in that sentence. Could a sentient being possibly have written it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2012 07:35 PM (QKKT0)




One didn't.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (GEICT)

72 She does NOT have to wait four years, she can change now. Good riddance!

I have a newly found respect for Graham when he said Wednesday he was going to personally hold TFG liable for the deaths of four American Citizens in Benghazi. He may have wimped out since then, but I haven't heard of it.
Doctor Fish that is funny!

Posted by: CarolT at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (z4WKX)

73 Second look at Megs?Only if she puts out a sex tape.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (9XBK2)

74 I'm seeing a hookup between Meggy Mac and Chris Christi. Twinkies and Ho Ho's after the bump ugly session.


Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (lDWQr)


That penis ain't making it through two fat folds, any more than a Scottish dirk could skewer the Hindenburg.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 16, 2012 07:36 PM (uhAkr)

75 >>Second look at Meghan McCain?
---

I would rather not, if you don't mind.

Posted by: sTevo at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (VMcEw)

76 "I donít fit into the traditional Republican box..."

And nothin' fits inside your box, either, honey.

Posted by: USS CONSTITUTION at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (KqwSL)

77
Meggy McCain is the poster chick for the American Flour Association.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (lDWQr)

78 65 AK,

PERFECT!

I saw one of the CH-54s putting a tower on one of the Franklin Mountains when I was at Ft Bliss...

Here meggy meggy moooo

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (LRFds)

79 I honestly feel that the GOP needs to take a second look at its policy platform favoring the crucifixion of gays.

Um, is there a buffet in here?

Posted by: Meghan McCain at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (QKKT0)

80 LET! IT! BURN!

Posted by: Evilpens at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (ck76k)

81 "I care more about my economy "

and there you have it

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (EZl54)

82 More interesting that this twit is Rush's question as to whether her dad is going after Susan Rice because he's trying to help his buddy John F'ing Kerry get the Sec of State appointment.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 16, 2012 07:37 PM (BeSEI)

83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (6JMZR)

84 Why do you give this fat-assed cunt the attention she craves?

Posted by: Ace' Ass at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (O7kyn)

85 I am pro-life, but because life is complicated, that choice is between a woman and her idea of a higher power.

So, pro-life in theoretical principle, but pro-choice in actual practice.

So, basically, not pro-life.

Posted by: red sweater at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (CUi62)

86 Are you "temporarily" out of work for the last 500 weeks?

Hi folks Free Shit Party 2016, we're here for you.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (LRFds)

87 I'll cave on ghey marriage. Their relationships aren't stable and don't last, but that won't satisfy them. After that they will demand gay curriculum in kindergarten bc of discrimination. That I can't abide

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (0PiQ4)

88 Meggy McCain is the poster chick for the American Flour Association.

I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (QupBk)

89 LET! IT! BURN!

Nah, Meghan takes Valtrex for that

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (QTHTd)

90
24 I don't know. Libertarians are pretty smug too.

Posted by: Lurker who always comes to the thread late at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM (xfWVe)

91 this is completely self-serving too. I'm willing to admit same-sex marriage may be "inevitable," even though I hate the word, in that it looks more likely than not at this point. So why can't the "blame the SoCons" caucus also admit that a lot of Americans don't like what the "ficons" are offering either? Do people really think if we ran a free-market libertarian purist we'd just reel in the working-class vote?

oh -- I forgot -- white working-class voters are icky, not diverse enough.

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (60GaT)

92 Let's throw the socons out because we know there's more than enough rich white guys who're socially liberal to flood the voting booths

But maybe we can entice Meggie's gay best friends with a nice big pile of Free Shit just for them so they'll tell pollsters they're undecided before doing the hip thing and voting Democrat

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (wwsoB)

93 Goldilocks - Jindal should automatically be disqualified for 2012 after disagreeing with Romney's "free shit" premise.

We lost - in part - to some tool offering free shit. The kindler, gentler GOP died with Bush 41.

Wait, is he still alive?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (IF7Sq)

94
Normally Meghan's writing gives me the shivvz. But I actually agree with her.
I'll add one thing. I think it might help if we didn't come across as so "we hate the environment". I'm skeptcial of MMGW - but so what? What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy. We should have better solutions and point out the left's foolish wasteful wasy, and say -"we will do it better".

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (O7ksG)

95
she has to chase the twinkie's truck!

Posted by: goode at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (2a65d)

96 at least she didn't say....."the party left me...." or did she...i only read the last paragraph......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (Ho2rs)

97 The tent just got a whole lot bigger.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (Pdnm2)

98 83 TMI,

A whole lotta love in a whole lotta grub

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (LRFds)

99 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!

The Moon Also Rises.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (QupBk)

100 83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!



Take It In the McCain

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (GEICT)

101 Normally Meghan's writing gives me the shivvz. But I actually agree with her.

Reconsider your life.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (uhAkr)

102 I would sooner take advice from a 'squatch'...come to think of it the likeness is uncanny...

Posted by: Christmasghost at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (CkK+I)

103 GMAFB

Get Me A Fucking Burger?

Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (O6q63)

104
"we will do it better".


Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (O7ksG)

I agree with that.

Posted by: Jenna Jameson at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (lDWQr)

105 the bump ugly session.

Well, that's a visual I could've done without.


I think they wouldn't be able to make contact. Maybe they'd stare at each other for a while and then go have a pastry.

Doughnut for him. An Eclair for her.

After that walk on the beach, Chris might be ready for some "consoling".

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (SP4jC)

106
Threat? Meh.
Promise? Thank god.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (4KZYb)

107 83
Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!


Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:38 PM

Meggie Eats Dallas

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (wwsoB)

108 Meghan McCain in

Little Debbie Does Dallas

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (hO9ad)

109 OH Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...get off stage missy!

Posted by: Beverley at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (ZmGpV)

110 >>>I'll add one thing. I think it might help if we didn't come across as so "we hate the environment".

ROTFL

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (q177U)

111 Moby Dick - The Quest for the White Whale

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (Pdnm2)

112 Fresh Meat

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (q177U)

113 94 Fresh,

"clean energy" so as longas we embrace unobtanium they'll love us?

Guy it is thermodynamics and economics....

"clean coal" was until the sierra club went Jihad....

the goal posts always move and they only stop on solar or wind.

"no"

I love the environment and I volunteer more taxes for the DNR in most states I've lived in....

it is God's gift not God

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (LRFds)

114 Seriously ... I don't generally take her seriously. But has she said anything here that is incorrect?

I would love to here a serious (non-insulting) counter-point.


Posted by: William at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (RDClC)

115 I said it long ago,as soon as daddy retires she officially announces she is a Democrat.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (9XBK2)

116 83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!




Blowjobs and Cheeseburgers

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (GEICT)

117 Latest twitter trender following "#HamasBumperStickers" is "#TalibanSubjectLines". Some guy in the Tolleybahn publicly cc'd the entire mailing list.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/bqnzxzd

Posted by: Country Singer (prepping for SMOD) at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (meVGV)

118 Forward? Really...forward? C'mon, you can do better than that honey...

Oh, and thanks #77...old joke, but a classic.

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (Qzw1H)

119
83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!

You got your twinkie in my ho ho!

Posted by: wheatie at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (ICEh3)

120 Without Bristol Palin's response, it's impossible for me to have a well informed opinion.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (+lsX1)

121 It puts the lotion on its skin, or it gets the hose again

Posted by: Buffalo Bill at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (wwsoB)

122 Two Mules for Sister Sarah.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (SP4jC)

123 What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy. We should have better solutions and point out the left's foolish wasteful wasy, and say -"we will do it better".
Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (O7ksG)


destruction of the coal industry

skyrocketing energy prices

loss of jobs

increased prices of goods

you do not know what you are talking about

you are not fresh, you are not yet ripe

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (Dnbau)

124 What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy.


Did you see Waterworld? That's what I want. Jet skis for everyone.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2012 07:42 PM (QKKT0)

125 Meggy Mac in The Lard and The Libation.

Posted by: Adam at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (/YJYi)

126 114

only if you happen to think the squish votes you bring in will not be enough to make up for the base votes you lose

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (60GaT)

127 I'm a woman too, and while personally pro-life, I don't care if you have your gynecologist abort your 15 kids with a spork and a bayonet. In fact, if you're on the opposite side of the political aisle from me, I fervently HOPE you abort your 15 kids with a spork and a bayonet.

I just don't want to pay for it. Do you read me?

I don't want to pay for them before they're born, I don't want to pay for them after they're born. I wasn't there when you got screwed. That's your issue.

And if you're trying to get me to pay for it, I get to tell you how my money gets spent. Capice?



Posted by: La Mauvaise New Yorkaise at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (ThM2Q)

128 Hey girl, you register as a moderate, and we can date, sugartits.

I'll put on my Superman costume, you dress up like Wonder Woman, and I'll meet you down at Dunkin Donuts for a little pastry goodness.

Posted by: Oliver Willis at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (jeAQW)

129 83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!



Titty-Fucking My Back Fat

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (GEICT)

130 The Abyss

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (Pdnm2)

131 What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy.

It's inefficient and they're stupid/going to find an excuse to vote for the PC party anyway.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (hO9ad)

132 Cheap,plentiful energy is a necessity for prosperity.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (9XBK2)

133 123 ThunderB,

Hi folks free Shit Party Here....


you want capitalism killed we will do it BETTER!

Free Shit 2016

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (LRFds)

134 I believe it takes actually three or four looks to take in all of Meathead McCain.

Let. It. Burn! And if you use all the brain fat from Maggie Mac for starter fuel, it'll burn big, bright, and long.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque says, at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (eQnzo)

135 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:43 PM (GEICT)

You funny ****.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (6JMZR)

136 Agree Wyatt. I am so disappointed in Jindal for grandstanding like that, dancing on Romney's head when he spoke the truth.

Pandering ain't the answer. We cannot out democrat the democrats.

And the foundation could be laid NOW, and these fools are just agreeing with the MSM. Just about half of the electorate voted for Romney, assholes! And a lot more are going to really wish they did in a the coming months.

Posted by: goldilocks at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (OETVg)

137 I am soooooo addicted to those Ho-Ho things. Really, if Hostess goes out of business I'll start eating hockey pucks.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (QKKT0)

138 124 Cicero,

I want GILLS and WAY TOO MUCH CAMERA TIME!

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:45 PM (LRFds)

139 She is such a perfect spokesperson for the party of Fail.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 16, 2012 07:45 PM (zpqa2)

140

But has she said anything here that is incorrect?

Posted by: William at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (RDClC)



"It will just continue to alienate more moderate voters like myself."

-Meggy McCain


This is truthful, and she should admit she's a liberal. The only reason she's asked her opinion is her father's a senate republican and the left believes they can make hay with her comments.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:45 PM (lDWQr)

141 My neice is a freshman at a private catholic college. Most of her friends were in private cath schools for k-12. She said that her friends dont talk politics much. She was shocked to find on election night, they were all cheering results. Unlike my neice, who benefited from growing up hearing her parents political opinions, these kids are only schooled in feel good. All they talked about was gay marriage.

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (0PiQ4)

142 Porn title?
Megs put's the Ho in ho ho

Posted by: Christmasghost at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (CkK+I)

143 Meghan McCain in . . .

A FRIDGE TOO FAR

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (IF7Sq)

144 At this point, I'm only taking advice from people who agree that, if their advice is followed and the projected results do not occur, they get executed.

Along with this fat McCain broad, I'm looking at you, Mr. "The Stimulus Should Have Been Bigger" Krugman.

It's my way of weeding out the poseurs.

Posted by: Capt. Obvious at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (P2Ufm)

145 What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy.

"Clean energy", unless it's nuclear, which it never is according to these freaks, means "less energy". "Less energy" means "more costs" and "rationing".

That's not craziness. That's a reasonable suspicion given that the Left has been running exactly that scheme since the "New Left" took it over in the 1960s.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (QTHTd)

146 I am past caring what this stupid girl thinks. Why waste ink on her?

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (P6QsQ)

147 Fuck Republicans.

George W. Bush will bookend Lincoln.

Posted by: twoslaps at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (N36ZX)

148 Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (O7ksG)

Sooo... your problem in the environment is not that the goverment controls stuff... but who does the controlling? Because that is what your 'better solutions' lead to.

Note... the EPA was started by.... WHO??? Oh... that would be a Republican.

Kinda like DHS? Whenever you cede MORE power to the Government, even with good itentions, it eventualy will Evolve into somthing which takes away Freedom.

As to Global Warming? There was 15 years of Warming... which led the Left to Freak.... followed by the last 15 years of NO WARMING.... and the cycles point that we should be heading for an Ice Age.... but hey.... California just implemented Cap and Trade... so that must be why its soon gong to cool...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (lZBBB)

149 But has she said anything here that is incorrect?

Right. "Wingnuts" like fucking Mitt Romney, notorious ultra-Bircher, knuckle dragger and all around mouth breather...

...who got elected Governor in the most liberal state in the union.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 16, 2012 07:46 PM (4KZYb)

150 The 39 Steps

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (6JMZR)

151
132Cheap,plentiful energy is a necessity for prosperity.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 07:44 PM (9XBK2)

----------

Which is why Barky will do everything in his power to keep us from having it.

Posted by: wheatie at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (ICEh3)

152 "I am a single woman in my 20s and that fact alone gave me the perspective that I don’t want to regulate a woman’s right to choice."

I am a slut, and therefore don't want baby murder to be illegal. Because I'm altruistic like that. But everything else (all that stuff I don't care about) should be regulated and/or banned. Because I'm altruistic like that.

"I am pro-life, but because life is complicated, that choice is between a woman and her idea of a higher power."

What about the baby and it's idea of a higher power? Oh right, you're the center of the universe. A very altruistic center.

"I believe if Roe vs. Wade were repealed, abortion would still go on."

So what's the problem?

"It’s not my place, and I don’t believe it’s the government’s place, to make such decisions."

Just every other decision?

"I also don’t believe it’s the government’s role to tell gays and lesbians that they can’t be given the same opportunities in American just because of who they love."

Maybe you should be more concerned about gays in the Muslim world, for example, you stupid hoebag.

"I think America needs a better immigration policy and immigrants who were brought here illegally as children shouldn’t be deported."

Doesn't really matter. Citizenship is some sort of "birthright" and most people in that age group have it.

"It will just continue to alienate more moderate voters like myself."

Good.

"If I don’t see some changes in the next four years, I’m going to consider registering as an Independent in 2016."

Please.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (hhVWg)

153 It doesn't really much matter what the Repubs do. It's how the MSM will spin it. Do you honestly think that, if we had a Republican candidate come out in favor of gay marriage AND abortion, that the MSM would say "Great! Good job!"? Of course not. It would be on to the next thing to beat the party with. I actually had some success with other women on contraceptive issues, when I pointed out that only condoms protect against STDs. Now that the Flukies are pushing for paid contraception, they don't seem so interested in pushing condoms these days.

Hmm, I just had a thought of running some thoroughly outrageous drag queen for office. Someone that the MSM just couldn't ignore. Any ideas? Wanna do outreach?

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (5HBd1)

154 Yes yes, and what did the Democrats do when they got their asses kicked in '00, '02, and '04'? Did they wander the wilderness, desperately seeking meaning for their party and a path toward relevance again?

No, they figured they'd out Democrat themselves and swing even further to the left and haven't looked back since.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (uD2fR)

155 83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!



Climb On Up

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (GEICT)

156 So, we throw out the socons

Who do we draw in to make up their numbers?

Young hip voters like Meggie? She only claims to be GOP because she's afraid mommy and daddy might cut her allowance.

Most of the Free Shit Army isn't going to switch over because of social permissiveness, they're going to stay with the party that promises them Moar Free Shit




Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (wwsoB)

157 "Meghan McCain Wants To See Some Changes In the GOP, Or She's Going to Stop Being a Republican"

Woohoo. Awesome. When is the party. I'll bring cheese and crackers!!!

Posted by: dissent555 at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (yR6A1)

158 Seriously ... I don't generally take her seriously. But has she said anything here that is incorrect?

I would love to here a serious (non-insulting) counter-point.




Posted by: William at November 16, 2012 07:41 PM (RDClC)

Her point is stupid. This election we ran the most moderate candidate, who ran completely on economic issues.
He lost. The GOP ran away from social issues and it was a disaster. The Democrats defined us based on gaffes, and ask Scott Brown how being a social liberal/fiscal conservative works. The NorthEastern Republican strategy is an abject failure.

Now on to Meggie.

The writer is someone who makes her living as a 'token' conservative who, because she has a famous father, has a column.

Her schtick is that she's a Democrat that says she's a Republican. She reflexively criticizes the party 'as a woman in her 20s', as if she has some kind of pulse on the issues of today.
There is no reason to listen to her on this subject, any more than we should listen to a guy wearing a "DOOM" sign in a major metropolitan city claiming the lizard people are going to eat us.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (uhAkr)

159 Rigghhhht...and take some driving and swimming lessons from Ted Kennedy

Posted by: Light29ID at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (Zv5PM)

160 its*

Fuck.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (hhVWg)

161
Jump all over me if it makes you feel better I'm just taking notes.
I am surrounded by democrats who vote not only FOR democrats but against REpublcians. Coal, nat gas, oil - all of the lefties still use it, don't they. Lets remind them. Lets remind them thatless fortunatefolks are hurting. All I am saying is that I listen to what the left say and they don't trust the GOP -- they think we are all a bunch of oil gobbed weirdos who dont' give a shit about clean air and water.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (O7ksG)

162 When did moderate come to be defined as 'gay Democrat'?

Posted by: argh at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (D1Ios)

163 149 PA,


We could run Goddamned zombie FDR and he'd be a wingnut...

they just want a socialist playmate to run with their Kampus Kommies....

Run Red PA Run Red...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (LRFds)

164 Meghan McCain in "Where's My Keys?"

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (SP4jC)

165 The stupid... it's contagious.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (hhVWg)

166 Meggie honey, there's a reason you're a SINGLE woman in your 20's.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:48 PM (IF7Sq)

167 A River Runs Through It

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 16, 2012 07:49 PM (6JMZR)

168 I can assure Ms McCain that even if Todd Akin were made president with a majority in the house and filibuster proof in the senate, Roe would not be repealed. Overruled perhaps, but then again what do I know. I'm not a genius like her and as a man I have small unusable tits.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 16, 2012 07:49 PM (uVpIL)

169 @ 152 Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (hhVWg)

--------



And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the sum and total of the argument. No need to add a thing. It's perfect just the way it is.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 07:49 PM (P6QsQ)

170 SP 500 now up 600 points under Obama - will cross 1700 in his second term.

Drilling up 300% - US is set to be #1 oil producer in the world by 2016.

GDP is up 700 basis points since q4 2008.

The banks all have fortress balance sheets. NO MORE BUSH TARP!!!!

Four more years - wingnecks!

Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 16, 2012 07:49 PM (UKXMx)

171 I nominate MegaJugs for president of the David Frum/Brooks/Gergen Club. Seriously. The issue of human life inside the womb is as complicated for me as the issue of slavery. Either it's human life deserving of reverence or its not. It's not up to the Divine to make it right. So says this agnostic.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (dvRYt)

172 With Meggie's defection, the average IQ of the party will skyrocket, and the average weight will plummet. It's win-win.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (IF7Sq)

173 Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (hO9ad)

More Like BIG DEBBIE EATS DALLAS

Posted by: Evilpens at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (ck76k)

174 "Itís not my place, and I donít believe itís the governmentís place, to make such decisions."

WHAT FUCKING DECISION???

I wish she'd just go ahead and declare herself liberal. Then she could fit right in with all the other stupid people in the country.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (uD2fR)

175 and there you have it....fresh is curious.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (Ho2rs)

176 "169 @ 152 Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (hhVWg)

--------



And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the sum and total of the argument. No need to add a thing. It's perfect just the way it is.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 07:49 PM (P6QsQ) "

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (hhVWg)

177 It's because Independent guys are chubby chasers

Posted by: TexasJew at November 16, 2012 07:50 PM (17o5E)

178 Meggie honey, there's a reason you're a SINGLE woman in your 20's.

She has pulse, you just know she give the BJs and her mother owns a beer distributorship.

Something doesn't add up, does it?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 07:51 PM (QupBk)

179 Meghan McCain = going to Hell because she's white and there ain't nothing she can do about it.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 07:51 PM (DoZD+)

180 Posted by: Herbert Hymenhopper at November 16, 2012 07:49 PM (UKXMx)

Wingnecks?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:51 PM (hhVWg)

181
Romeo 13.
My problem is we are losing the perception game.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:51 PM (O7ksG)

182 Meggie Mac theme song

http://tinyurl.com/2nxwao

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (wwsoB)

183 or I's are Fat Fuckers


or Hogging

Posted by: Evilpens at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (ck76k)

184 179 Katya,

and Moogan will be a source of cheap clean abundant energy....

no need for coal for at least 50 years.....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (LRFds)

185 She has pulse, you just know she give the BJs and her mother owns a beer distributorship.



Something doesn't add up, does it?


TOBY 2016!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (IF7Sq)

186 178 Meggie honey, there's a reason you're a SINGLE woman in your 20's.

She has pulse, you just know she give the BJs and her mother owns a beer distributorship.

Something doesn't add up, does it?
Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 07:51 PM (QupBk)



And she's blonde with huge boobehs. Something ain't right.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (GEICT)

187 what did the Democrats do when they got
their asses kicked in '00, '02, and '04'? Did they wander the
wilderness, desperately seeking meaning for their party and a path
toward relevance again?



No, they figured they'd out Democrat themselves and swing even further to the left and haven't looked back since.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 07:47 PM (uD2fR)

------------------
And another winner.


Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (P6QsQ)

188 Meghan McCain looks nothing like that picture on the Daily Beast. I thought MySpace sunk and pulled all that crap down with it?

Fucking technology.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (jhI6f)

189 I donít fit into the traditional Republican box

You're going to need a bigger box, Captain...

Posted by: Roy Scheider at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (FcR7P)

190 She was shocked to find on election night, they were all cheering results. Unlike my neice, who benefited from growing up hearing her parents political opinions, these kids are only schooled in feel good. All they talked about was gay marriage.


So they're not Catholic then. Got it.

And....PLEASE tell me your daughter doesn't go to Providence. Please.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (FNNXm)

191 fresh steps


that is not your problem...your problem is you are a troll

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 16, 2012 07:52 PM (Ho2rs)

192 Romeo 13. My problem is we are losing the perception game.

And of course you alter false perceptions by altering your substance, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 16, 2012 07:53 PM (4KZYb)

193 >> Second look at Meghan McCain?

My eyes still haven't recovered from the first look, TYVM.

Posted by: Andy at November 16, 2012 07:53 PM (OZPoa)

194 180 MUMR,

The libtard is working on his change up...


it's retard hot stove league season here at the HQ...


Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:53 PM (LRFds)

195
Meggy McCain was the centerfold in the August issue of Cattleman's Quarterly.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 07:54 PM (lDWQr)

196 Pron titles


My Side of My Mounting

Whora, Whora, Whora

Two Flew Over My Hoo-haws Nest

Forrest Hump

The Curious Case of My Disappearing Button

Thigh-light: Breaking Jaw



Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 07:54 PM (Dnbau)

197 I could squeeze Meggie Mac into the traditional Republican box but it would call for a strict, steady diet of Zingers, Busch Light, and Astroglide.

Posted by: Fritz at November 16, 2012 07:54 PM (mqdAz)

198 Wingnecks?

Red Nuts.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 07:54 PM (SP4jC)

199 I've said this before. John McCain has 7 children, what with adoption, 2 marriages and whatnot. 3 of them have served or are serving in the military. 2 are successful corporate executives. Okay, one is in the rich stepmother's company, but an older daughter is an executive for Virgin.

The thing is, why is it that the only kid we hear from is the one who has absolutely no accomplishments whatever?

Jugs, STFU until you've done something with your life. Something like, you know, supporting yourself without mommy's money.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 16, 2012 07:55 PM (jLiVY)

200 Yep,the left never moves right.They may pretend(blue dogs?) but they never really move right.And they come back and win.Maybe we need to pretend.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 07:55 PM (9XBK2)

201 By my definition Meghal ALREADY is an Independent. So what's the problem?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 07:55 PM (DoZD+)

202 SP 500 now up 600 points under Obama

Made me go look and Yikes, it's given back 69 since the election. 1,359.88 at the close.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (QupBk)

203 "194 180 MUMR,

The libtard is working on his change up...


it's retard hot stove league season here at the HQ...


Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:53 PM (LRFds) "

It makes even less sense than most of the things Leftists say, which is quite astounding...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (hhVWg)

204 And getting a talking job on some half-assed tv show because your dad ran for president doesn't count. It just shows how stupid tv people are.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (jLiVY)

205


I think we need to ease up on the social issues. Sorry.
We must go
full throttle and fight the economic incompetence,economic ignorance, the
economic disaster that is the modern prog-dem neo-Marxist failure commie left.
Full right turn bitch slap. No apologies.







Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (O7ksG)

206 Meghan. Crap.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (DoZD+)

207 She'd like rusty coat hangers more if they were dipped in chocolate

Posted by: TexasJew at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (GWlHG)

208 Why are Republicans worried about countering the positions of the left wing when it should be obvious to everyone by now that everything they say is a lie?

The left's positions don't really exist!

Why should the biggest concern of the GOP be that Obama is 'buying the vote' if every promise that is made is false? There is no way to deliver on the promises that Obama made. The gifts he was promising DO NOT EXIST! We're beating ourselves up because we cant offer the same hope as the left when the left is offering only false hope.

Santa Clause LIED to all his own supporters! That is the scandal here. The only thing grand enough to compete with the lies of the left is to tell even bigger lies. Is that what we want to be?

Posted by: gastorgrab at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (FX38i)

209 also why didn't Ms. McCain mention bisexuals. is she biphobic

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (60GaT)

210 Someone buy this chunky bitch a diary, please. Maybe she'll spare the rest of us her literary sharts.

Posted by: UGAdawg at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (WYOrt)

211 I have not read the comments, but u suspect there are a lot of jokes about how much and what Megan McCain eats, with cross references to twinkles, hostess, and Applebee's.

Am I right?

Posted by: Elizabethe at November 16, 2012 07:57 PM (ou/rY)

212 200 Steevy,

We'll have a public split....

the GOP will become the HardAss and Free Shit Parties.....

then every election cycle we'll run a unity ticket called the HardShit or FreeAss party......

"DO YOU NEED OBAMAFO?"

Free Shit 2016

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:57 PM (LRFds)

213 MeggieMac porn titles...


Thighs of Thunder

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 07:57 PM (GEICT)

214 198, LOL

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 07:57 PM (DoZD+)

215 If I donít see some changes in the next four years, Iím going to consider registering as an Independent in 2016.


Crap, one more thing to keep me awake at night.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (QKKT0)

216 I have no idea why you are all flipping out over what she said.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (O7ksG)

217 I think we need to ease up on the social issues

So then, you would describe yourself as "concerned". Correct?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (FNNXm)

218 211 Elizabethe,

probably....add in a good take down by MUMR and there you have it...

when Moogan speaks you know the topic has been hit with intellect and gravity....but mostly gravity.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (LRFds)

219 I think we need to ease up on the social issues. Sorry.
We must go
full throttle and fight the economic incompetence,economic ignorance, the
economic disaster that is the modern prog-dem neo-Marxist failure commie left.
Full right turn bitch slap. No apologies.







Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (O7ksG)


yes, cause thats how we won the last election. riighhthtt

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (Dnbau)

220 zzz

Posted by: Gerry at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (+t7PE)

221 THE GOGGLES THEY DO NOTHING!

Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (KCvsd)

222 Elizabethe- Applebees? Nah, chemjeff hasn't weighed in yet.

Probably because some Senator's dumb daughter broke the scale

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (QTHTd)

223 Two of Ronald Reagan's children turned out to be flaming libs. Very sad but true. So MM is a lib, what a surprise.

Posted by: Boots at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (neKzn)

224 have no idea why you are all flipping out over what she said.

You must be new here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (FNNXm)

225 "205

I think we need to ease up on the social issues. Sorry.
We must go
full throttle and fight the economic incompetence,economic ignorance, the
economic disaster that is the modern prog-dem neo-Marxist failure commie left.
Full right turn bitch slap. No apologies.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM (O7ksG) "

You do realize that Marxism/Communism/Sovietism has more than just an economic dimension, right?

Your desire to live in an economically-functional Soviet Union is charming...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (hhVWg)

226 Yes, they're real...... and they're spectacular!

Posted by: Mac'n Cheese McJuggs at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (jucos)

227 "211
I have not read the comments, but u suspect there are a lot of jokes
about how much and what Megan McCain eats, with cross references to
twinkles, hostess, and Applebee's.



Am I right?"


Once you get past the "she's stupid" factual points, the other jokes are all that's left.

Posted by: Capt. Obvious at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (P2Ufm)

228 Wouldn't you think she'd be far more preoccupied today with tracking down the last Twinkie?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (piMMO)

229 216 I have no idea why you are all flipping out over what she said.
Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (O7ksG)



We're not freaking out, we're mocking

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (GEICT)

230 Made me go look and Yikes, it's given back 69 since the election. 1,359.88 at the close.

Inflation-adjusted, the market peaked in '97.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (4+LTj)

231 ENDLESS SUPPER

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (Pdnm2)

232 Santa Clause LIED to all his own supporters! That is
the scandal here. The only thing grand enough to compete with the lies
of the left is to tell even bigger lies. Is that what we want to be?


Posted by: gastorgrab at November 16, 2012 07:56 PM

As long as there's ONE republican left inside the beltway, the MSM will blame the republicans for obstructing Dear Leader's Five Year Plan for Utopia

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (wwsoB)

233 Wifey busted me for cigars on my travel credit card statement.

She pulled the bill out of my hand and said, 'Gimme that, I want to see if there are any strippers on here'.

Posted by: sTevo at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (VMcEw)

234 You have to wait until I lift my hand off my stomach and punch me in the bandage on my belly button.

Once I get knocked down I can't get back up.

Posted by: Chris Christie at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (uhAkr)

235 224 Sean Bannion,

the nice thing is we have about 37 seconds of horde unity left...

Thanks Moogan

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (LRFds)

236 Thanks for cheering us all up, Ace.
This stupid whore always leaves me with a bemused smile.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (IOSGZ)

237 Hot damn!

Greg Gutfeld filling in for BOR tonight!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (piMMO)

238
Tonight, it's the O'Gutfeld Factor, and it's got to beat the O'Butthead schtick.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (lDWQr)

239 "211 I have not read the comments, but u suspect there are a lot of jokes about how much and what Megan McCain eats, with cross references to twinkles, hostess, and Applebee's.

Am I right?

Posted by: Elizabethe at November 16, 2012 07:57 PM (ou/rY) "

~15%.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:01 PM (hhVWg)

240 Drilling up 300% - US is set to be #1 oil producer in the world by 2016. GDP is up 700 basis points since q4 2008. The banks all have fortress balance sheets. NO MORE BUSH TARP!!!!Four more years - wingnecks!

I had a job until Barack Obama was re-elected.

Posted by: newly unemployed Hostess baker at November 16, 2012 08:01 PM (O6q63)

241 Fresh: this is how Meghan Mac debates her opponents, "I also donít believe itís the governmentís role to tell gays and
lesbians that they canít be given the same opportunities in American
just because of who they love."

She portrays the stance of the Left in its full propagandistic value, and makes out that her opponents are against love itself.

She. Deserves. All. She. Gets.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 16, 2012 08:01 PM (QTHTd)

242 228 Wouldn't you think she'd be far more preoccupied today with tracking down the last Twinkie?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 07:59 PM (piMMO)




Pretty sure she is the last twinkie

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:01 PM (GEICT)

243 Fresh (Hector?)

i don't mind people disagreeing/thinking we have to "ease up" on social issues. What I object to is this idea that this was the sole determining factor of Romney's loss.

if you don't see how the GOP hasn't effectively communicated an economic program that lots of people don't just see as "tax cuts for the rich" then you're just as much of a slave to your orthodoxy as you claim the "SoCons" are

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:01 PM (60GaT)

244 Once you get past the "she's stupid" factual points, the other jokes are all that's left.

We can only build with the tools she gives us.

Those vapid, insipid, illogical, non sequiturs she leaves us.

::: sigh :::

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:02 PM (FNNXm)

245
when Moogan speaks you know the topic has been hit with intellect and gravity....but mostly gravity.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 07:58 PM (LRFd

You mean "gravy" right?

Posted by: Elizabethe at November 16, 2012 08:02 PM (ou/rY)

246 225 MUMR,

We can now afford to just fucking kill you not have you slave for 20 years first asshole!

//Stalin

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:02 PM (LRFds)

247 Hey Meghan! Move your ass outta the way so I can shut this damn door! It's friggin' winter, you dumb bitch.

Posted by: Danby at November 16, 2012 08:02 PM (vISoV)

248 245 Eliabethe,

no Gravity...think small moon.....


thanks tip the waitress...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (LRFds)

249 244 Once you get past the "she's stupid" factual points, the other jokes are all that's left.

------------

We can only build with the tools she gives us.

Those vapid, insipid, illogical, non sequiturs she leaves us.

::: sigh :::
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:02 PM (FNNXm)




You keep forgetting the boobehs.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (GEICT)

250 "but because life is complicated"

Unlike, say, Megan McCain.

I think conservatism can risk the wrath of Ms. McCain. As far as higher powers-- why should I not say that the choice of how much money I give to the poor should be between me and Ms. McCain's "higher power"?

Posted by: R. at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (Wn5aN)

251 Please show us a picture of her large, succulent melons.

Posted by: Buck Bradley at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (PDRXW)

252 Last night when I stopped for gas, I went in to look for a snack. I passed on the Twinkies. I should have grabbed one, just for grins.

Posted by: sTevo at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (VMcEw)

253 Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it. The populace hasn't really changed it's just the populace votes now.

Unlikely voters have ALWAYS favored Dems 2-1. The populace would probably have voted for "free stuff" back in 1800, but 90+% of them didn't/couldn't vote.

We don't have a culture problem, we have a VOTING problem.

Posted by: Closing Time at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (1crPI)

254 The banks all have fortress balance sheets.

I have to take exception to this. The BIG banks are doing well, the two I was invested in went bust. One was bought by a Dem-friendly bank at .50 on the dollar and the other just busted into bankruptcy.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (QupBk)

255 I'll add one thing. I think it might help if we didn't come across as so "we hate the environment". I'm skeptcial of MMGW - but so what? What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy. We should have better solutions and point out the left's foolish wasteful wasy, and say -"we will do it better".
Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (O7ksG)


****************

I have a soctard former friend who used to argue with me in the exact same fucking vein. "If you are against massive government intervention and regulation and sky-high subsidies of a product or service that obviously people, as a group, don't value enough to pay for, than you want dirty water and polluted air and poor black people to die."

Hey dick-cheese. How do you compromise with creatures who want to define you with bullshit strawmen and lies?

If people choose to accept the combination of jobs and pollution instead of no jobs and a little less pollution, who the fuck are you to tell them they are wrong and they should instead spend their lives on the dole?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I understand the concept of externalities. So if the OTHER people value their pristine whatever so much, they can all band together and pay those taking the jobs to stay at home. "Not fair!" you say? Yeah, life's a bitch outside of that ivory fucking tower, isn't it?

And finally, to answer your actual question, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with clean energy. Show me some that is as reliable, as powerful, and as cheap (without stealing money from others at gunpoint to maintain the price), and I'll sign right up.

Posted by: Boomer Redneque says, at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (eQnzo)

256 WHO KILLED MORNING WOOD?

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (Pdnm2)

257 "Inflation-adjusted, the market peaked in '97.


Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (4+LTj)"

Pointing that out is racist.

Posted by: Capt. Obvious at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (P2Ufm)

258
Well, Maggie it was your brand of republicanism that kept many voters away, so if that's gonna be your party, then I will be done with them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (3BbLJ)

259 241 BH,

pretty much....

either the bitch is so dumb she should have been allowed to be exposed....

or

she works for the other team

not my problem either way

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (LRFds)

260 Once I get knocked down I can't get back up. Posted by: Chris Christie at November 16, 2012 08:00 PM (uhAkr)

Bullshit.

Everyone knows Weebles wobble but they don't fall down.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (FNNXm)

261 219 Well no. We lost the election because we got beat by aObama's surrogates. They successfullyscared the wiminzthat theevil GOP were gonna steal allthe tampons.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (O7ksG)

262 "246 225 MUMR,

We can now afford to just fucking kill you not have you slave for 20 years first asshole!

//Stalin

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:02 PM (LRFds) "

Just one of the many perks of a (slightly) less dysfunctional economy.


(I am glad that Leftists have sort of learned from their mistakes and haven't completely destroyed the economy. Yet.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (hhVWg)

263 Shut up and show us your...

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 16, 2012 08:04 PM (w41GQ)

264 Passion of the Crist

Die Hard (nuff said)

The Bone Collector

The Lard of My Fat Rings: The Two Dangling Towers

Harlots of the Caribbean: On Strangers Hides

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 08:05 PM (Dnbau)

265 thanks tip the waitress...
Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (LRFds)


Yeah I got it. I got it. Don't worry.

Posted by: Elizabethe at November 16, 2012 08:05 PM (ou/rY)

266 You keep forgetting the boobehs.Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (GEICT)

I didn't forget.

I also never said I wouldn't pound it for days.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:06 PM (FNNXm)

267 262 MUMR,

their story always ends in codified death of one sort or another and they always have a designated villain...


every fucking time they get total unchecked power.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:06 PM (LRFds)

268 I care more about my economy, national security, and fiscal conservatism than I do about what other woman do with their bodies.

-----

And to prove how much more I care about these issues, I'm going to go ahead and flirt with the idea of voting for the guys that are going to crumble our society.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (UvR6d)

269 I'm a lot like Meghan, except that I'm old, I'm not heiress to a beer
distribution fortune, my dad didn't cheat with my mom while still
married to wife number one and I don't have a pol-kids degree from
Columbia like Meggy and Chelsea Clinton, but damned if she hasn't lost
me somewhere along the way with this line of thinking.

Posted by: huerfano at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (bAGA/)

270 "253 Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it. The populace hasn't really changed it's just the populace votes now.

Unlikely voters have ALWAYS favored Dems 2-1. The populace would probably have voted for "free stuff" back in 1800, but 90+% of them didn't/couldn't vote.

We don't have a culture problem, we have a VOTING problem.

Posted by: Closing Time at November 16, 2012 08:03 PM (1crPI) "

"The culture hasn't really changed"

LOL. So, Leftists have labored unceasingly, and it all came to naught?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (hhVWg)

271 221 THE GOGGLES THEY DO NOTHING!
Posted by: BlueFalcon in Boston

Drinkin' already eh B.F.?

Posted by: Dynomut Dogg Wonder at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (PALjS)

272 Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 08:05 PM (Dnbau)




Blow


Glad-she-ate-her


Pulpy Friction

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (GEICT)

273 "than I do about what other woman do with their bodies."

well she's a pro at lefty euphemism clearly

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (60GaT)

274 Anyone who uses "forward" in anything sucks.

Posted by: osu at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (xR46S)

275 265 Elizabethe,

I didn't mean to shortsell your quick wit....was nice.

I have a headache but I think it is the last of the fatigue poison leaving my brain....

a good thing

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (LRFds)

276 181

Romeo 13.
My problem is we are losing the perception game.


Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:51 PM

You ain't kidding

Allah put up a poll indicating that if the fiscal cliff isn't resolved, 53 percent will blame Republicans in Congress, 29 percent will blame the SCOAMF, 10 percent both, 2 percent neither, and 7 percent are watching Honey Boo Boo and don't understand the question

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (wwsoB)

277 274 Anyone who uses "forward" in anything sucks.
Posted by: osu at November 16, 2012 08:07 PM (xR46S)


wait ..

Posted by: osu at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (xR46S)

278 "Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it."

Boner pills have always been hocked on TV.

Posted by: derit at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (I88Jc)

279 Pointing that out is racist.

Math is racist, in and of itself. Compound Interest is the Exalted Cyclops.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (QupBk)

280 BTW, I'm nobody to poke fun.

It occurred to me this afternoon that Hostess makes Zingers, which I love. I headed out to the store a little while ago and at the convenience stores and gas stations near me, all the Twinkies, Hohos, and Zingers were gone.

Undeterred, I had a flash!

CVS!

They had a freshly restocked display right next to the register.

I bought 13 packs of vanilla Zingers and 13 packs of various other goodies, including Goldencakes, to defrost a bit of nostalgia once per month for the next year.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (piMMO)

281 Bet Meggy Mac N Cheese was one of those non SoCon GOPers that sat on their ass last week instead of voting for Mitt.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (VrVBw)

282 What we need here is a petition for the Democrat party to draft Meghan McCain.

Posted by: hisfrogness at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (6orKY)

283 266 Sean Bannion,


I'd hit it.....then back up just to be sure.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:09 PM (LRFds)

284 The culture hasn't really changed,
------------


Oh really?

What are the percentage of single parent homes now as opposed to, say, 1960?


Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:09 PM (P6QsQ)

285 I can't get used to serious Greg Gutfeld.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:09 PM (piMMO)

286 "267 262 MUMR,

their story always ends in codified death of one sort or another and they always have a designated villain...


every fucking time they get total unchecked power.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:06 PM (LRFds) "

And the important thing to keep in mind is that if you're against teh villain, you must be teh good guy. Because Hollywood education.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:09 PM (hhVWg)

287 Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it.

When you see less of it, it stays cohesive longer.

The is the point of being a cultural conservative.

It's also the point of having standards.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:10 PM (FNNXm)

288 Bet Meggy Mac N Cheese was one of those non SoCon GOPers that sat on their ass last week instead of voting for Mitt.


****

I bet she voted for Obama

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:10 PM (piMMO)

289 278 derit,

so have Tom Vu commercials....

I hear Ben Franklin really got a kick out of Santo Gold....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:10 PM (LRFds)

290 GOP to Meghan McCain:

Tits or GTFO

Posted by: Not Ready To Unsock at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (BgIBZ)

291 Boehner has already said "oh shit" as soon as he was dealt his hand.

Just give the SCOAMF what he wants, don't even pretend to want any kind of concession from TFG. Any pretension before caving will just stick in the mind of the public that "the recession was caused because the GOP wouldn't help Obama"

Let ... It .... Burn

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (wwsoB)

292 266 I didn't forget.

I also never said I wouldn't pound it for days.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:06 PM (FNNXm)




http://tinyurl.com/cocbb25

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (GEICT)

293 281

I dunno that we have all the information yet but I had the impression that Republican turnout was depressed in economically-depressed, rural areas in places like Ohio

not to shove all working-class soft R voters into a simplistic "economically liberal/socially conservative" box but at the same time I don't think they're Meghan McCain Republicans

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (60GaT)

294 I don't care what women do with their bodies either. It's just that I don't think they should get to dismember other people's bodies.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (P6QsQ)

295 "Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it."



Boner pills have always been hocked on TV.

Posted by: derit at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (I88Jc)
You find that shocking?

Posted by: Trojan Twisting Vibrator at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (hO9ad)

296 depressed in depressed

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (60GaT)

297 288 NDH,


I'll bet DL "Mike" Hughgley Steele did as well...

if I knew we'd still hold 40+ seats in the Senate I'd split the party tomorrow.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (LRFds)

298 All my cousins 20 something kids,still in college or just graduated,all pro gay marriage.Can't understand why their parents and I would be against it.Mostly conservative kids too.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (9XBK2)

299 When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Meggie takes her turn
Speaking words of wisdom
Let it Burn


Posted by: Paul McCartney at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (wwsoB)

300
18 year old dumbasses get to vote. Maybe if wecould lighten up on some of the social issues, we could ..
never mind.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (O7ksG)

301 "278 "Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it."

Boner pills have always been hocked on TV.

Posted by: derit at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (I88Jc) "

Boner pills are part of the American Dream.



(Why do you hate Amerikkka?)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (hhVWg)

302 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (GEICT)

LMFAO

Someday, my friend, I am going to buy you very many glasses of brown liquor.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (FNNXm)

303
It really would be ok if big Meg went to the dem party.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (3BbLJ)

304 293 JDP,

Nah they are all vapid trust fund babies who work coal b/c the doc told 'em it was good exercise....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (LRFds)

305 Ah geez Meghan---don't let the screen door slap ya on yer fat ass on the way out.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (oe1aw)

306 Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture
hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it. The populace hasn't
really changed it's just the populace votes now.


****

Oh shit.

Are we going to receive another lecture about the brilliance of Jay-Z and his successful three-city drug ring?

Another thread about Kanye's genius as a producer?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (piMMO)

307 Meghan McCain: Professional Victim, Useful Idiot

Her 'I'm a Republican, but a cool, edgy one with tattoos and gay friends, not an icky one who hates clean air and fun. Everyone in the party hates me. Did I mention that I'm cool and edgy?' shtick reached its expiration date long ago.

She just needs to change her registration to D already and stop lecturing us about how backwards and unhip she thinks we all are.

Posted by: Lurker who always comes to the thread late at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (xfWVe)

308 18 year old dumbasses get to vote. Maybe if we could lighten up on some of the social issues, we could ..
never mind.


Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (O7ksG)

-----------

Who's "we", Francis?

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (P6QsQ)

309 "284 The culture hasn't really changed,
------------


Oh really?

What are the percentage of single parent homes now as opposed to, say, 1960?


Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:09 PM (P6QsQ) "

Doesn't matter. It's all Progress. Or Equal. Or both.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (hhVWg)

310 302 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (GEICT)

LMFAO

Someday, my friend, I am going to buy you very many glasses of brown liquor.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (FNNXm)



Lol. I look forward to it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (GEICT)

311 I do believe that Ms McCain has earned the coveted T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII endorsement.

Posted by: West at November 16, 2012 08:14 PM (M9Z1j)

312 Posted by: Paul McCartney at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (wwsoB)

I like that.

Can you do something similar with a video set to "Gangnam Style"?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:14 PM (FNNXm)

313 I also donít believe itís the governmentís role to tell gays and lesbians that they canít be given the same opportunities in American just because of who they love

______

This woman is a fucking idiot. Straw man. And using the Dem "because of who they love"! What an ass.

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:15 PM (2ArJQ)

314 Ah, you gonna take me home tonight
Ah, down beside that red firelight
Are you gonna let it all hang out
Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go round

Hey, I was just a skinny lad, never knew no good from bad
But I knew life before I left my nursery
Left alone with big fat fannys, she was such a naughty nanny
Heap big woman you made a bad boy out of me

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 16, 2012 08:15 PM (Nfpnr)

315 "294 I don't care what women do with their bodies either. It's just that I don't think they should get to dismember other people's bodies.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (P6QsQ) "

How outrageous! Will the wingnuttery never cease?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:15 PM (hhVWg)

316 I'll bet DL "Mike" Hughgley Steele did as well...

if I knew we'd still hold 40+ seats in the Senate I'd split the party tomorrow.


****

My response to hearing of his tease about voting for Obama:

You mean somebody interviewed Michael Steel?

Seriously? Somebody gave a damn enough to make the effort?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (piMMO)

317 312
Can you do something similar with a video set to "Gangnam Style"?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:14 PM (FNNXm)



Open Condom Style

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (GEICT)

318 Lol. I look forward to it. Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (GEICT)

You still in the Baltimore area?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (FNNXm)

319 18 year old dumbasses get to vote. Maybe if wecould lighten up on some of the social issues, we could ..

That's the point of Let. It. Burn.

The fire will purify them.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (hO9ad)

320 The day I give a shit about Meghan McCain is the day I suck off the end of a 12-gauge.

Posted by: Some1 at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (X7qSe)

321 "295 "Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it."



Boner pills have always been hocked on TV.

Posted by: derit at November 16, 2012 08:08 PM (I88Jc)
You find that shocking?

Posted by: Trojan Twisting Vibrator at November 16, 2012 08:11 PM (hO9ad) "

This!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (hhVWg)

322 at least 25 million White adults who have voted before did not vote on Nov 6


another 40 or so White adults who could have voted did not vote on Nov 6



gimme a 'pathway' to wherever they are, or were, or think they wanna be

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (Dll6b)

323 Don't let the door hit you on the way out Megs. And good luck with those liberal wimmens. You be toast baby.

Posted by: gracepmc at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (rznx3)

324

If she had any smarts she would not vote at all.

Posted by: Ringo at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (dQ/Oc)

325 I know there are many out there, especially in the more conservative sphere, that regard me with disdain. ... For the last four years, Iíve been calling for Republicans to stop concentrating on social issues.

First: What campaign did she observe? Concentrating on social issues? When did that happen? Our ticket started to run as soon as social issuescame upanywhere.

Second: She implies that we regard her with disdain because of her opinions. Thats simply wrong. Rudy Giuliany is a liberal Republican, but respected by those who disagree with him. The difference? Hefights the good fight and doesnt make a living by dumping on his own party everytime a camera is pointed at him. So Meghan dear, we dont regardyou with disdain because you have liberal opinions,but because you area treacherous, backstabbing bitch.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (qZRKf)

326 Second look at Meghan McCain?

I think you need some kind of panorama lens, actually.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (Jpeqn)

327 The culture hasn't really changed

You are correct.

Posted by: Lady Gaga, Sandra Fluke and other assorted skanks at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (vbh31)

328 Apropos of nothing, I've been looking at those Hi-Point carbines one of you morons were pointing me too and I have to say, they are inexpensive and probably deadly but jeez, those are some butt-ugly weapons.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (QupBk)

329 318
You still in the Baltimore area?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:16 PM (FNNXm)




Nah, we left awhile back. We're in NE Florida.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (GEICT)

330 OK, but move up the party switch to 2013 so we don't have to be lectured by you (or see you quoted by the MSM as a "representative Republican") before the next elections. Believe it or not, we'll survive without you.

Posted by: dave at November 16, 2012 08:18 PM (8uzdZ)

331 316 NDH,

I mean I get we need a presence in nw england I do....


but he and Joisey Buddah both are such asshats....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:18 PM (LRFds)

332 "298 All my cousins 20 something kids,still in college or just graduated,all pro gay marriage.Can't understand why their parents and I would be against it.Mostly conservative kids too.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:12 PM (9XBK2) "

It's almost as if they're not that good at ... critical thinking. Just doing and thinking whatever is defined as hip/Equal at a given moment.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:18 PM (hhVWg)

333 Frum-Meggie 2016

teh future

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:18 PM (60GaT)

334 330 Dave,


That's just crazy talk...what would Polar Bears do without our offering a bite from our land walrus?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:19 PM (LRFds)

335
ah Old Huckabee got Akin elected. So what the fuck am I talking about?

"The fire will purify them." thanks for the laugh. Really - I loled andI appreciate it.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:19 PM (O7ksG)

336 "306 Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture
hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it. The populace hasn't
really changed it's just the populace votes now.


****

Oh shit.

Are we going to receive another lecture about the brilliance of Jay-Z and his successful three-city drug ring?

Another thread about Kanye's genius as a producer?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:13 PM (piMMO) "

This as well!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:19 PM (hhVWg)

337 298 All my cousins 20 something kids,still in college or just graduated,all pro gay marriage.Can't understand why their parents and I would be against it.Mostly conservative kids too.
Posted by: steevy
_ _ __ _ _ _
I've got a kid that is libertarian/conservative. Has the same point of view. I agree, gay people should get the same equal treatment in terms of being in a partnership and having equal benefit sharing (healthcare from employer) and inheritance type issues. Just don't call it "marriage" that is a time honored sanctuary that you must not violate. If the "other side" of the issue would be a little more tolerant of those that want to honor marriage, the institution that helps create a future with humans still in existence....then perhaps we could come to better terms on the two sides of the aisle. But of course it's not their fault for being intolerant its ours.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 08:19 PM (PALjS)

338 The biggest cultural change is the loss of all shame.Whether over deviant sexual practices or taking free shit from the government.People simply have no shame any more.The left has succeeded.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:19 PM (9XBK2)

339 If you Jet fans don't stop booing me, I'm going to go play for the Dolphins!!!

Posted by: Mark Sanchez at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (wwsoB)

340 And of those single parent homes, what percentage of them are dependent on some sort of government assistance?

LBJ and the Marxist Dems set out to destroy the American family through their War on Poverty. Now we have an overabundance of poverty and an underabundance of moms and dads in the same house raising their own kids.

You don't think that's a culture shift? A deliberate one at that. Remove fathers out of the home, impoverish the mothers, make the kids dependent for the rest of their lives, trap them in government schools, send them to government daycares, keep the government money coming because there is no other way, and you have created a permanent underclass in the space of a two generations.

But there's no culture war. Like hell there isn't.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (P6QsQ)

341 BTW, sitting here listening to Schubert. And he says: "I'm gay, but even I know Meghan McCain is full of shit."

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (2ArJQ)

342 332 MUMR,

It's almost as if there is absolutely NO deference paid to the damage the issue is doing to the bill of rights or the concept of Federalism....


do me a favor and ask them if they are satisfied now that Obama has embraced Mitt Romney's position of it being "up to the states?"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (LRFds)

343 I always ask why this particular fetish is worthy of societal support and so many others are the butt of bad jokes. Numbers? Wealth? Fashion sense?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (QupBk)

344 Four out of five psychologists agree: every generation has its Honey Boo Boo.

Posted by: Sigmund Fraid at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (rzTDZ)

345 "So what the fuck am I talking about?"

A couple of straw man and some weak rambling. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (VrVBw)

346 but he and Joisey Buddah both are such asshats....


*****

His taking to Twitter a few days ago to announce a "Mobile Cabinet" that would be sent out to the hardest hit areas, two weeks after Sandy, just sent me off the deep end.

The fact that I was the only moron mocking him on Twitter continues to shock me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:21 PM (piMMO)

347 "Just don't call it "marriage" that is a time honored sanctuary that you must not violate."

you realize, this used to be an "OK" position to have, but currently will earn you comparisons to Jim Crow

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:21 PM (60GaT)

348 What is wrong with clean energy

Define "clean". If you're talking solar and wind, it's unreliable and expensive. You can't run an industrial economy on it.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2012 08:21 PM (Jpeqn)

349 343 I always ask why this particular fetish is worthy of societal support and so many others are the butt of bad jokes. Numbers? Wealth? Fashion sense?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (QupBk)



Fabulousness

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:21 PM (GEICT)

350 328 Toby 928,

That would be me...utility has a beauty all its own....


Yeah and I'd go handle one....check the ergonomics.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:21 PM (LRFds)

351 327 The culture hasn't really changed
You are correct.
Posted by: Lady Gaga, Sandra Fluke and other assorted skanks at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (vbh31)

______

Ha ha! Good one. This is not your run o' the mill idiot.

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:22 PM (2ArJQ)

352 Nah, we left awhile back. We're in NE Florida.Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (GEICT)

I may have a project on the Space Coast next year. I'll look you up.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:22 PM (FNNXm)

353 "313 I also donít believe itís the governmentís role to tell gays and lesbians that they canít be given the same opportunities in American just because of who they love

______

This woman is a fucking idiot. Straw man. And using the Dem "because of who they love"! What an ass.

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:15 PM (2ArJQ) "

The way to prove that you're a Conservative who's "with it" is to always think about things exactly as a Leftist would. And then reach the preapproved, politically-correct conclusion.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:22 PM (hhVWg)

354 What I'm waiting for is when Obuttfuck and his fellow travelers decide that Sharia law is really cool for some inner cities

That'll go well when ghey hipsters stroll down the street

For previews, see "Amsterdam" and "Oslo"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (wwsoB)

355 346 NDH,

I spiked twitter or I would have been mocking him direct.

I want to photoshop his head on Ron Jeremy's body so bad.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (LRFds)

356 The culture hasn't really changed

You are correct.

Posted by: Lady Gaga, Sandra Fluke and other assorted skanks at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (vbh31)


*****

Anyone long for the innocence of old Playboy magazines?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (piMMO)

357 Does anyone know if there is a payload limit on Sybians?

Posted by: Meghan McCain at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (Pdnm2)

358 "327 The culture hasn't really changed

You are correct.

Posted by: Lady Gaga, Sandra Fluke and other assorted skanks at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (vbh31) "

This too!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (hhVWg)

359 utility has a beauty all its own....

Indeed, but they are homely. An AR is a work of art in comparison.

...check the ergonomics

I think that I might. There's a Gunshow this weekend in Pensacola I think.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM (QupBk)

360 354 KBDaBear,

well counter vigilante groups may make gays appreciate the GOP....

I'll beat the shit out of a Jihadi that beats a gay just for being gay.

so there's that.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM (LRFds)

361 Teh geh thing is part of youth culture, and yes the culture has changed.

The hippies and their "everybody do their own thing" were never like this, but they did lead the way.

Several generations of latchkey kids, raised by babysitters or nobody, single mothers in all but the white and asiancommunity now outnumber 2-parent families, and an everpresent way to plug into "their culture" whenever they want to. They don't have to wait until mom and dad are finished watching the 3 channels available on TV.

The culture we think of as "culture" is not their culture.

Posted by: Boots at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM (neKzn)

362 What will it take for her to suck a dick?

Posted by: Barakatemydog at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM (qBLA2)

363 >>Anyone long for the innocence of old Playboy magazines?

Gone, is the forest porn of our youth.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM (Pdnm2)

364 This too!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (hhVWg)

*****
My, but you are agreeable tonight!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:25 PM (piMMO)

365 "340 And of those single parent homes, what percentage of them are dependent on some sort of government assistance?

LBJ and the Marxist Dems set out to destroy the American family through their War on Poverty. Now we have an overabundance of poverty and an underabundance of moms and dads in the same house raising their own kids.

You don't think that's a culture shift? A deliberate one at that. Remove fathers out of the home, impoverish the mothers, make the kids dependent for the rest of their lives, trap them in government schools, send them to government daycares, keep the government money coming because there is no other way, and you have created a permanent underclass in the space of a two generations.

But there's no culture war. Like hell there isn't.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:20 PM (P6QsQ) "

THIS!


Later, all.

God bless.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 16, 2012 08:26 PM (hhVWg)

366 Gone, is the forest porn of our youth.

ISWYDT. Boooosh!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:26 PM (QupBk)

367 I see I'm late to the thread.

Posted by: That Guy Who Says I'd Hit it at November 16, 2012 08:26 PM (JVEmw)

368 352 Nah, we left awhile back. We're in NE Florida.Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (GEICT)

I may have a project on the Space Coast next year. I'll look you up.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:22 PM (FNNXm)




That's about 3 hours due south of where I am.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:26 PM (GEICT)

369 360
354 KBDaBear,

well counter vigilante groups may make gays appreciate the GOP....

I'll beat the shit out of a Jihadi that beats a gay just for being gay.

so there's that.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM

Odds are heavy that after the gay thanks you privately and quietly for saving his life, he'll publicly say you were a racist who overreacted

Like so many leftist groups, "better dead than unhip"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:27 PM (wwsoB)

370 Gone, is the forest porn of our youth.Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:24 PM (Pdnm2)

Looks like its time for another "Sasquatch vs. The Landing Strip" debate.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:27 PM (FNNXm)

371 356 The culture hasn't really changed

You are correct.

Posted by: Lady Gaga, Sandra Fluke and other assorted skanks at November 16, 2012 08:17 PM (vbh31)

*****
Anyone long for the innocence of old Playboy magazines?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (piMMO)

++++

File under: doesn't quite get the concept of a sock

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:27 PM (2ArJQ)

372 All my cousins 20 something kids,still in college or just graduated,all
pro gay marriage.Can't understand why their parents and I would be
against it.Mostly conservative kids too.

Posted by: steevy


Give it time. Back in the 70s everybody thought monogamy was for squares. That idea isn't pushed a whole lot anymore - a host of kids from broken homes grew up miserable or turned out fucked up and don't believe it, even if they tragically fall into similar patterns.

Just as fiscal conservatives know that liberal policies in the fiscal realm lead to ruin, social conservatives know the same thing about liberal notions about human nature.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 16, 2012 08:28 PM (uhAkr)

373 369 KBDaBear,

Oh I get that hell he'll probably be my camp guard when they Gulag'd my ass...

where in the hell did I wake up?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:28 PM (LRFds)

374 That's about 3 hours due south of where I am.

Very drivable.

Just pour me into my hotel that night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:28 PM (FNNXm)

375 356 Anyone long for the innocence of old Playboy magazines?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (piMMO)




*sigh*


Fine, I'll own up. I still have a subscription.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (GEICT)

376
BREAKING: C. Dean Metropoulos Co. "actively pursuing" a deal for Hostess Brands



IT LIVES.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (1Y+hH)

377 Anyone long for the innocence of old Playboy magazines?



Gone, is the forest porn of our youth.


****

I remember a time when Playboy was both risque' and sophisticated. Penthouse was edgy and Hustler was pure filth.

The first Playboy I ever saw was purchased by my mom and it contained Shannon Tweed as the Bunny of the Year.

IIRC she received a white fur coat and a Jaguar as part of her prize package.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (piMMO)

378 Ben Stein is a fucking retard.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (Pdnm2)

379 The sad part is she has no clue no one on the planet gives a shit.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (2t6Gz)

380
348 - "Define "clean". If you're talking solar and wind, it's unreliable and expensive. You can't run an industrial economy on it."
Clean. Def. Really nice and clean. Free of grit.

I agree with you. Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill. In fact, the energy co gives him a small amount back. The guy isn't a dem, if that matters. The small scale stuff. Again, I am only talking about what I see as an opportunity in the perception game.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (O7ksG)

381 Can't somebody shut this fucking fat bitch up?

Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Says, LET IT BURN at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (ZHqer)

382 I'll take landing in a clearing over landing on a strip or in a forest. Must be a generational thing.

Posted by: Adam at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (/YJYi)

383 347 "Just don't call it "marriage" that is a time honored sanctuary that you must not violate."

you realize, this used to be an "OK" position to have, but currently will earn you comparisons to Jim Crow
Posted by: JDP

you realize, where I live, this is still the majority opinion and perhaps in the majority of the 50 states it is... Just the MSM promotes that it isn't.

I for one, think that people that make love to other peoples feet should also be able to marry the other peoples feet....and get equal protection under the law. Now there's the question about the SM type people....what about their rights?

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 08:30 PM (PALjS)

384 374 Very drivable.

Just pour me into my hotel that night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 08:28 PM (FNNXm)



LMAO

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:30 PM (GEICT)

385 Loved this thread! This is the first time I have laughed out loud since election night. Thanks.

Posted by: jmel at November 16, 2012 08:30 PM (x+wt0)

386 372 Bevel,

Yup...sometimes through trial and error of our own trying to use the scientific method on shit our grandparents would have told us....

my dad was in awe of only one magic trick of my youth but thought "you don't play the field enough son...."


I explained to him politely one wrong encounter with a girl could kill you.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:30 PM (LRFds)

387 45
I'm seeing a hookup between Meggy Mac and Chris Christi. Twinkies and Ho Ho's after the bump ugly session.

Pigs-in-a-blanket!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM (i0vBR)

388 Frickin Ben Stein sounds like he's doing an exaggerated Ben Stein impression tonight.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM (2t6Gz)

389 Look at the pop singers who can't sing but dress like they're ready to do a porn shoot

About the only thing that will stop that is a consumer yawn of "yeh, seen that, can you actually sing"

Then Katy, Slutney, and Miley will have to do porn since they've shown little musical talent

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM (wwsoB)

390 Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill.

I simply don't believe you, or I guess, him really. How many watts can he be making?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM (QupBk)

391 Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in
his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill. In fact, the energy
co gives him a small amount back. The guy isn't a dem, if that matters.
The small scale stuff. Again, I am only talking about what I see as an
opportunity in the perception game.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (O7ksG)

------------

I think you should totally do that. The windmill thing. In your back yard.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (P6QsQ)

392 I am a little perplexed why anything she says is relevant at all.

What exactly is her expertise and bona fides, to comment on political matters?

Her father is a Senator?

So how does that work? Does she talk to him and his experience transfers into her brain?

I know college freshmen who know more about politics and make more sense than Meghan.

But we should put the parties fate in her hands. Right.

I wouldn't trust her to walk my dog.

Posted by: marcus at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (CNEa6)

393 File under: doesn't quite get the concept of a sock


****

heh.

It used to be that women appeared in "those magazines" but didn't deliberately flash their crotch to the paparazzi whilst exiting a car.

Playboy of old seems downright tame now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (piMMO)

394 I'm seeing a hookup between Meggy Mac and Chris Christi. Twinkies and Ho Ho's after the bump ugly session.



Pigs-in-a-blanket!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM

Well, now we know what really caused the surge that flooded NY and NJ

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (wwsoB)

395 Everyone I know who got a HiPoint carbine loves it. A third of the price of the HK USC. To really see a wonderful review, go to Youtube and type in "Nutnfancy hipoint carbine" Here's one: http://tinyurl.com/bt7ub9c NutnFancy is da MAN

Posted by: DAve at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (XDC0v)

396 380 Fresh,

I know this guy who took Choom seriously in 2008 and put 1,250 PSI in hire tires....now he milks the car like a cow and makes millions selling the gasoline he gets in savings.....

he retired to the Caymans but took the Car as a nostalgia piece.

Thanks Comrade Soetoro....


You do grasp the notion of GW necessary for foundries and shit yes?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (LRFds)

397 Stein - better get those genital warts on your cheek checked out.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (2t6Gz)

398 Please Meghan move on!

Posted by: Benson II at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (CBpMz)

399 The social issues do not harm the Republican brand. What does is candidates who refuse to learn how Reagan handled the Democrat/Media Complex whenever they brought up social issues.

When Rick Santorum has to spend forty-five minutes of every hourlong interview playing dodgeball over gays, guns, abortion, and religion, he's simply letting the media own his campaign. Reagan learned how to drag the media past the social issues without denying them at all. He acted, correctly enough, like they were a collection of timeless truths that were so fundamental that every child knows them to be true.

Republicans who keep calling for the so-cons to stand down are providing them the same support as Obama does to Copts in Egypt.

I'm not a so-con, hell, I'm not even a conservative, but I'd trust the so-cons far more than the Karl Rove-approved moderates any day of the week. Anyone who thinks the so-cons are going away is engaging in fantasy.

Posted by: K~Bob at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (4lOyi)

400 Clean. Def. Really nice and clean. Free of grit.

THAT'S what you mean by clean??

Oh. I was so off.

I need a shower. Preferably with a pressure washer.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (FNNXm)

401 "you realize, where I live, this is still the majority opinion and
perhaps in the majority of the 50 states it is... Just the MSM promotes
that it isn't."

I wasn't mocking you just to clarify, i think it's silly

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (60GaT)

402 380 Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill. In fact, the energy co gives him a small amount back. The guy isn't a dem, if that matters. The small scale stuff.
----------------------------------

I know somebody in Colorado who has a solar array and gets some sort of "credit" on his power bill every month. IIRC the power company is required to provide this subsidy to people who buy the solar equipment, which he did. But I believe the other ratepayers are actually subsidizing this scheme.

Posted by: Boots at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (neKzn)

403 >>Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill.

and he gets to eat toast every Sunday!

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (Pdnm2)

404 Meghan McCain, David Frum, et. al., should form a new political party.

They could call it the "We Are Not Who We Say We Are" party, and they could appeal to votes from the Liars Club, ConMen Inc., and the much-coveted Tranny vote.

Seriously, they were never Republicans. I don't just mean conservatives, what Republican positions did they endorse, live by , and promote?

It's always "why can't you be more like Democrats?" They aren't critics, they're leftist sock puppets, "concern trolls" that can be quoted by leftists as "proof that the (insert enemy here) are barbarians."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM (bxiXv)

405 389 Look at the pop singers who can't sing but dress like they're ready to do a porn shoot

About the only thing that will stop that is a consumer yawn of "yeh, seen that, can you actually sing"

Then Katy, Slutney, and Miley will have to do porn since they've shown little musical talent

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM (wwsoB)


Is there supposed to be a downside to these statements?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:34 PM (GEICT)

406 I still think we've got the same populace as we've always had. Girls have always been "going wild" it's just that these girls used to work swinging from chandeliers in the saloon and now rack up tuition debt at your nearby 4 year university. A huge number of people had syphillis back in the 19th century. It has always been like this. But now the depravity of humanity is in our face every day and celebrated by the heathens.

Music sucks because the people with money to spend on music are teenagers with horrible taste. It didn't used to be this way. People that didn't used to matter, matter now in culture. There is no "elite" running the place.

Before you shout down this idea look up one stat: What percentage of the total population of the US voted in the election of 1800 between Jefferson and Adams?


Our problem is that the population votes. The culture is dominated by the masses. It wasn't always like this.

Posted by: Durka at November 16, 2012 08:34 PM (1crPI)

407
Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill.

I simply don't believe you, or I guess, him really. How many watts can he be making?

___ ____ _____ ____ ____ ____ __


Well, you see...he has this bicycle that's hooked to a little generatorto run the TV....and then....

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 08:34 PM (1Y+hH)

408 Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yard

Would you like a cookie?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2012 08:34 PM (Jpeqn)

409 391 mam winger,

he has a magical tuning fork that eliminates the noise.....

and thank God his back yard is big enough for the zoning....

I know I will put a windmill on my next RV and use it as a turbo boost like on Knight Rider....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:34 PM (LRFds)

410 Speaking of Hostess
Question
Is it just Chinese buffet restaurants in my area or do all of them serve sliced Hoho's at the desert display.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 08:35 PM (2t6Gz)

411 Gutfeld vs. Gelraldo , after the break!!!!!!

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 16, 2012 08:35 PM (Rcq5f)

412 "They could call it the 'We Are Not Who We Say We Are' party..."

Why reinvent the crooked wheel?

Posted by: No Labels at November 16, 2012 08:36 PM (I88Jc)

413 I agree with you. Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (O7ksG)


I know two countries that have lost tens of billions subsidizing unreliable and inefficient solar and wind power that require 100% backup from conventional sources and are slowly going out of business because they cost more than they produce.

My anecdote is bigger than your anecdote.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 08:36 PM (bxiXv)

414 Gutfeld vs. Gelraldo , after the break!!!!!!


****

I will forever love Eric Bolling for wanting to deck Geraldo, despite his remarkable restraint which prevented it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (piMMO)

415 I know this guy who powers his computer and big screen TV with the energy given off by his algae pond. True story.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (P6QsQ)

416 I just went and pulled last months power bill and I used 1564 KWhs. And I'm not an extravagant user of the electricity.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (QupBk)

417 hijacked? that stupid cunt did she notice we just ran the most moderate guy the party has ever nominated? he bitch go ahead and leave. oh wait then all your TV bookings will dry up because you don't fit the useful idiot mold anymore and they'll find some other token republican to bitch about house far right the party has drifted even though we got our asses stomped with the two most moderate guys we've ever fielded.

Posted by: we are so screwed at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (BjJOB)

418 Govt. shouldn't make these decisions? Obviously she has not read Obamacare wherein The govt makes ALL you medical decisions.

Posted by: Devan at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (c+qmJ)

419 Define "clean". If you're talking solar and wind, it's unreliable and expensive. You can't run an industrial economy on it.
Posted by: Waterhouse
____
The answer is miniature nuclear power plants in everyone's basement. If you live in TX you can still use oil......because y'all aint got basements.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (PALjS)

420 Frum is Canadian and noneligible to run in the US. The only exception to that rule is Indonesians holding dual citizenship. And Meggie is too young.

But we will have a ticket like that in 2016. And we will be told to vote for it or else Concern Troll.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (dOgaW)

421 Oh BTW it's Germany and England. I can name names, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (bxiXv)

422 413 Mero,

MACRO vs Micro economics?

How's that shit work?

//Moonbat

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (LRFds)

423 I used to be okay with gay marriage. No longer. I am in favor of civil unions and equal visitation/inheritance rights for gays. Everything but the name.

It's become obvious that the endgame, as with the birth control issue, is to force religions to "marry" people against their will.

Think about it--four years ago, if you would have said that Obama was going to force the Catholic church to buy birth control and abortifacients for its employees, dems would have said "Oh, stop listening to Glenn Beck conspiracy theories." Once he actually did it, they defended it by calling it a matter of justice.

It's the same thing--they say they don't want to force religions to violate their beliefs. However, once government mandates it, they'll cheer for it as social justice.

No thanks.

Posted by: Palandine at November 16, 2012 08:38 PM (g7D8V)

424 I know this guy who powers his computer and big screen TV with the energy given off by his algae pond. True story.


****

That's nothing.

I know someone who powers their car with blood-oil.

True story.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:38 PM (piMMO)

425 >>I just went and pulled last months power bill and I used 1564 KWhs. And I'm not an extravagant user of the electricity.

You're gonna need a bigger windmill.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:38 PM (Pdnm2)

426 300
18 year old dumbasses get to vote.


The 26th Amendment dates from the Vietnam era. Back then the saying was, "It isn't right that eighteen year olds can be drafted to fight a war, but are not allowed to vote."

There's no draft now; hence no reason for the 26th Amendment. Repeal it.

Posted by: rickl at November 16, 2012 08:39 PM (sdi6R)

427 What she's saying is that women, gays, and immigrants don't care about the "economy, national security, and fiscal conservatism". So they're not going to vote Republican anyways.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 16, 2012 08:39 PM (Tt6ky)

428 OT Have you seen the commercial with the white girl doing human beat box?I want to murder that girl.Slowly.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:39 PM (9XBK2)

429 390
Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill.



I simply don't believe you, or I guess, him really. How many watts can he be making?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:31 PM

Solar panels I can believe, if he's not drawing a lot of amps. A windmill is another story since you'd have to get local government permission, pay a higher liability insurance premium, install storage batteries, regulators, and switches.

If he claims that he's also charging his Chevy Volt or plug-in Prius with it, I call bullshit

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:39 PM (wwsoB)

430 415 Mama Winger,

I know this guy who swears we will get back to the moon by harnessing the energy of snails in zero gravity....and Muslim outreach!

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:39 PM (LRFds)

431 they should just give everybody who lost power to Storm Sandy windmills!!!!!!

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 08:39 PM (Dnbau)

432 I just went and pulled last months power bill and I used 1564 KWhs. And I'm not an extravagant user of the electricity.Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (QupBk)___ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___ ___ Dang, you live near Al Gore? I just checked...580 for 31 days.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 08:40 PM (1Y+hH)

433
Buh Bye Air Head

Posted by: ALL_IS_LOST at November 16, 2012 08:40 PM (T/L2Z)

434 393 File under: doesn't quite get the concept of a sock

****

heh.

It used to be that women appeared in "those magazines" but didn't delibeately flash their crotch to the paparazzi whilst exiting a car.

Playboy of old seems downright tame now.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:32 PM (piMMO)


____

ok sorry, maybe I was the one who misunderstood

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:40 PM (2ArJQ)

435 I wasn't mocking you just to clarify, i think it's silly

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 08:33 PM

no problem, I was just stating my position for those working for the regime that are monitoring us. Kind of new here....so wasn't really sure....

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 08:41 PM (PALjS)

436 You're all pikers with your windmills, solar panels, and algae

Pixy powers this blog with hamsters

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:41 PM (wwsoB)

437 427 John J,

Yeah I had Richard Grenell explain that to me when a gay guy was wishing death on him for wanting a strong America based on secured international commerce and industry...

"they are not Republicans trapped by being gay Sven they are just crazy"

it cleared a lot up.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:41 PM (LRFds)

438 Geraldo is a knob.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 16, 2012 08:41 PM (Rcq5f)

439 423 "four years ago, if you would have said that Obama was going to force the
Catholic church to buy birth control and abortifacients for its
employees, dems would have said "Oh, stop listening to Glenn Beck
conspiracy theories." Once he actually did it, they defended it by
calling it a matter of justice."

Posted by: Palandine at November 16, 2012 08:38 PM

Exactly.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 16, 2012 08:41 PM (Tt6ky)

440 //Moonbat
Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (LRFds)


Oh fuck don't remind me, I have *had* that conversation.

"If it doesn't work commercially then maybe it will work if *everyone* has solar cells and a windmill at their house."

Economy of scale, motherfucker, do you speak it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 08:41 PM (bxiXv)

441
He has a few acres of land. So, backyard is not quite a yard so much as his land. I don't think a windmill would fit in my tiny backyard. But thanks.
Meremortal. I don't know. He told me the thing pays for itself. (eventually)
Sorry I brought it up. Have a great night.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:42 PM (O7ksG)

442 354 What I'm waiting for is when Obuttfuck and his fellow travelers decide that Sharia law is really cool for some inner cities

That'll go well when ghey hipsters stroll down the street

For previews, see "Amsterdam" and "Oslo"


Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:23 PM (wwsoB)

I keep saying: leftists (especially gheys) are safer behind conservatives with guns than they are with their jihadist friends.

Posted by: K~Bob at November 16, 2012 08:43 PM (4lOyi)

443 440 Mero,

add in the fact that solar production is actually a very dirty envirnmental process....they are not engaged in acts of reason on political and economic matters this is their fucking faith and they are devout.

It is why I finally have decided to ponder if I am kissing a corpse on trying to win back the Blue...

I think they left us in 2001 or 1968...we have not been a nation in a long while.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:43 PM (LRFds)

444 ok sorry, maybe I was the one who misunderstood


****

No apologies between morons!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:44 PM (piMMO)

445 As for popular music, if you want true instrumental and vocal beauty these days you have to listen to... metal.

Seriously. And I don't even like metal.

(Goth is good for that too, and I do like that.)

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 16, 2012 08:44 PM (dOgaW)

446 437 sven10077

Yep. No gay marriage means gay people are oppressed exactly as much as single people are. To them (liberals), that's the equivalent of slavery. Those people (liberals) are nuts who won't vote Republican anyways.

Posted by: JohnJ at November 16, 2012 08:44 PM (Tt6ky)

447 Posted by: Palandine at November 16, 2012 08:38 PM (g7D8V)

-----------

Yes, the end game is destruction of the church. The biggest enemy of totalitarianism is freedom of conscience. This must be severely restrained or eliminated in order for government to take full control. Two competing ideologies. The leftists know you cannot serve two masters. So like Obama, the strategy is to clear the field.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:45 PM (P6QsQ)

448 Sorry I brought it up. Have a great night.Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:42 PM (O7ksG)___ _ ____ ____ ____ ___Just joshing wid you, peace out.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 08:45 PM (1Y+hH)

449 "as a woman *with and IQ in the* 20s"

There. FIFH.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 16, 2012 08:45 PM (qFpRI)

450 hey, anyone know i barry the lett is tring to start world war III?

it sorta seems like it to me, and he is a fifth columnist.

what would billy ayers do?

Posted by: rev dr e buzz at November 16, 2012 08:46 PM (ApGOC)

451 Palandine, John J no lie I really thought ObamaFO was the end of Ogabe in Ohio....

The Ohio I was raised in and defacto expat from....*boom* see ya Bambi....

I was wrong....I still think it may have been cheated to the win but reality is we should have been past that margin.....

I was gutpunched....

really SW Ohio?

This is who we are is it?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:46 PM (LRFds)

452 Can't somebody shut this fucking fat bitch up?

__________________________


I've given all that I have, Cap'n.

Posted by: A. Cock at November 16, 2012 08:46 PM (Nfpnr)

453 Wind turbines are also,putting aside all the other problems with wind energy,maintenance nightmares.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:46 PM (9XBK2)

454 The New York Times reported that the Pentagon estimates that, if they get the call to secure Syriaís unconventional weapons stockpile that theyíll need seventy-five thousand to accomplish that task;
The estimated size of the potential effort, provided to the White House by the militaryís Central Command and Joint Staff, called into question whether the United States would have the resources to act quickly if it detected the movement of chemical weapons and forced President Obama, as he said in August, to ďchange my calculusĒ about inserting American forces into Syria. So far Mr. Obama has avoided direct intervention into the most brutal civil conflict to emerge from the Arab Spring uprisings, and the Pentagon assessment was seen as likely to reinforce that reluctance.
The White House on Thursday declined to comment on the Defense Departmentís assessment.

from This Aint Hell

super dooper

lets go to Syria

Posted by: Thunderb at November 16, 2012 08:46 PM (Dnbau)

455 Sorry I brought it up. Have a great night.

Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 08:42 PM (O7ksG)


Don't be sorry you brought it, it just gives us a chance to point out how badly soaked people's brains are by constant leftist propaganda.

You are totally sold on *both* ends of the left's narrative on the environment, and it's all a lie. Conservatives don't hate the environment or nature, and the left doesn't love nature, look at what happens to nature when the left takes over.

The left loves the power the environmental/bureaucrat alliance gives them, that is all.

Now, some of the "footsoldiers" love the environment, they just blindly assume their leaders do as well, like you did.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 08:47 PM (bxiXv)

456 Can you really get 5 KWh per day per square meter from a home Solar panel? Or are these "Solar Calculators" BSing me?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:47 PM (QupBk)

457 "Second look at Meghan McCain?"

Must I?

She is an idiot. The fact that I agree with some of her immigration ideas has me re-examining my position -- either she is correct in the manner of a stopped clock, or I am not thinking clearly.

I can't believe she has the nerve to call social conservatives "wingnuts". What a turd.

Posted by: Ken at November 16, 2012 08:47 PM (3ar4L)

458 444
No apologies between morons!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:44 PM (piMMO)




We open fire! Circle Squad, take your positions!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:48 PM (GEICT)

459 lets go to Syria

--------------




Let's not.


No blood for Obama.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:48 PM (P6QsQ)

460 She's All In.

Posted by: Beverley at November 16, 2012 08:48 PM (ZmGpV)

461 432 I just went and pulled last months power bill and I used 1564 KWhs. And I'm not an extravagant user of the electricity.Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (QupBk)___ ____ ____ ____ ____ ___ ___ Dang, you live near Al Gore? I just checked...580 for 31 days.

243 in October and 480 in September. My highest for this year was 829 in July.

Toby must live on Venus. Or Texas.

Posted by: rickl at November 16, 2012 08:48 PM (sdi6R)

462 I know a guy.....


I laughed right there!

Posted by: Max Power at November 16, 2012 08:49 PM (q177U)

463
Can you really get 5 KWh per day per square meter from a home Solar panel? Or are these "Solar Calculators" BSing me?


****

Marketing will almost always sell the highest known benefit.

That could mean that one panel, somewhere in the middle of a desert, on one day, provided 5KWh.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:49 PM (piMMO)

464 Shall I renounce my principles? Not likely.

I am in favor of the "red card" idea. Give these immigrants legal working status. But NEVER citizenship.


Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at November 16, 2012 08:49 PM (V70Uh)

465 MMc: "I know there are many out there, especially in the more conservative sphere, that regard me with disdain."

To regard you with disdain would mean to care what you "feel". We don't. However, we regularly regard Senator McCain with disdain because of his position (we have to care), so you have that going for you.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM (eHIJJ)

466 432 I just went and pulled last months power bill and I used 1564
KWhs. And I'm not an extravagant user of the electricity.Posted by:
toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:37 PM (QupBk)___ ____ ____ ____
____ ___ ___ Dang, you live near Al Gore? I just checked...580 for 31
days.



243 in October and 480 in September. My highest for this year was 829 in July.



Toby must live on Venus. Or Texas.


****

Are some of you low KWh users using propane or gas for heating and cooking?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM (piMMO)

467 Yeah, so here is the debate that isn't going on. The ONLY reason for the government to be involved in any way in marriage is the promotion and protection of families. Think: Julian laws. I agree with that, at least as an artifact of an old America where women were quite significantly disadvantaged. So teh gheys want the government to rubber stamp them, too? Since there is no net advantage to society to doing so, and since women are no longer disadvantaged, my response is: get government out of marriage altogether.

Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM (2ArJQ)

468 I think they left us in 2001 or 1968...we have not been a nation in a long while.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:43 PM (LRFds)


You never have everybody on the same page. For a while we knew how to live with that. Now too many people can't live with it (largely because too much central power makes control an existential issue instead of an academic one).

453 Wind turbines are also,putting aside all the other problems with wind energy,maintenance nightmares.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:46 PM (9XBK2)


And bird grinders. Save the Earth! Except for the birds!

And, of course, as more are built we have more problems with low-frequency noise and illness / stress. Yay.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM (bxiXv)

469 The one spot of light in the cold black cinder of my heart is Israel. Does my heart good to see them curb-stomping Hamas, and I can't wait for them to go after Iran as well. They'll have to at some point--since the tyrant was re-elected, they know they can't count on us.

When I'm feeling All Dead Inside, Israel can still make me smile.

Posted by: Palandine at November 16, 2012 08:51 PM (g7D8V)

470 >>are these "Solar Calculators" BSing me?

yes.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:52 PM (Pdnm2)

471 Toby must live on Venus. Or Texas.

Gulf Coast, and I see it's not last months but rather 8/13-9/14/2012. But still, it's not that high at $170.

I'm going to go find last month's.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:52 PM (QupBk)

472 When I'm feeling All Dead Inside, Israel can still make me smile.


Posted by: Palandine at November 16, 2012 08:51 PM (g7D8V)

-----------

God bless and keep Israel.
Goodnight dear friends.

Posted by: mama winger, stranger in a strange land at November 16, 2012 08:53 PM (P6QsQ)

473 BREAKING: C. Dean Metropoulos Co. "actively pursuing" a deal for Hostess Brands

IT LIVES.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 08:29 PM (1Y+hH)


Nov. 16
(Bloomberg) -- C. Dean Metropoulos Co., the private equity firm
that owns Pabst Brewing Co., is considering an offer to buy Hostess
Brands Inc., which said today it plans to liquidate its business.
ďOur family would love to purchase these iconic brands,Ē said Daren
Metropoulos, a principal at the Greenwich, Connecticut-based firm,
which paid $250 million for Pabst in 2010. ďWe are actively pursuing
this deal as no doubt strategics will also.Ē
C. Dean Metropoulos, founder of the firm, has specialized in
purchasing struggling brands, such as Chef Boyardee and Bumble Bee Tuna
and turning them around. The firm paid close attention to the maker of
Twinkies and Wonder Bread during its bankruptcy proceedings, Daren
Metropoulos has said.
ďWe have analyzed this opportunity very carefully for a few years
now,Ē Metropoulos said in an e-mail. ďShedding the complications of the
unions and old plants makes it even more attractive.Ē

The 82-year-old company also makes Hostess CupCakes, Ding Dongs and
Ho Hos. The private equity firm is ďfully prepared to participate in
any process involving selling the brands,Ē Daren Metropoulos said.
Hostess said today it will fire more than 18,000 workers and
liquidate after a nationwide strike by bakery workers crippled
operations. The company struggled after changes in American diets led to
years of declining sales while ingredient costs and labor expenses
climbed.
The company, based in Irving, Texas, plans to sell its products until
supplies are exhausted. The decision to liquidate capped a weeklong
standoff between Hostess, once the largest U.S. wholesale baker, and a
union that called its proposed labor contract ďhorrendous.Ē

Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2012 08:53 PM (X6akg)

474 Dara Torres is looking pretty good.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 08:53 PM (Pdnm2)

475 Here's what I'm still trying to figure out, and what fooled a lot of us into thinking that Obama was going to lose by a landslide;

Those huge rallies for Romney and Ryan in October, contrasted with low attendance for Choom and Choo-Choo

All I can figure since the logistics for that kind of voting fraud is very hard to pull off, is that Obullshit didn't draw the kind of worship he did in 2008, but he managed to scare enough of the Free Shit Army and Fuck Me Sandra voters to the polls. I didn't go to any fawning GW Bush rallies, nor Meggie's daddy, but I was afraid of the alternative

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:54 PM (wwsoB)

476 Meh, 9/14-10/12 is 1066 KWhs. You guys using half that must live somewhere very temperate.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 08:54 PM (QupBk)

477
Maybe there is something interesting about Ms. McCain's rant. If people are leaving the Republican party from both wings, thetent may be as big as it can get. Which isn't good news for the near future. If you are losing party members, where are your converts going to come from?

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 08:55 PM (1Y+hH)

478 ou are totally sold on *both* ends of the left's narrative on the
environment, and it's all a lie. Conservatives don't hate the
environment or nature

_______________________________


Lots of us make our Tennessee White Whiskey in the peaceful solitude of Nature and She's babblin' brooks.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 16, 2012 08:55 PM (Nfpnr)

479 So are we riding Meggie McTits all the way to the ONT?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 08:55 PM (GEICT)

480 just saw Meghan kissin Sandra at a bar

who knew?

Posted by: akak at November 16, 2012 08:55 PM (eFroM)

481 466
Are some of you low KWh users using propane or gas for heating and cooking?


Oh, OK. Gas for heating, hot water, and cooking.

My 50 year old gas range with pilot lights kept working during the three-day Sandy power outage. I was able to heat up the leftovers that were thawing in my freezer and never had to touch my non-perishable stockpile. Win-win.

Posted by: rickl at November 16, 2012 08:56 PM (sdi6R)

482 Good,I hope Hostess lives and the union dies.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 08:56 PM (9XBK2)

483 456 Can you really get 5 KWh per day per square meter from a home Solar panel? Or are these "Solar Calculators" BSing me?
Posted by: toby928© for TB

Well since the solar flux at sea level is approximately 1000 W/m^2. we can assume 20% efficiency of your solar cells. And we can also assume 10 hours of sunlight. Even if there is more, when the angle of sun drops below a certainly level you will not get much energy on your solar cell. So I'm really arguing this so I can use the number 10 for the math.

So 1000 W/m^2 x 20% x 10 hours = 2kW hours per day per meter squared of active area solar panel. Sounds like bullshit to me....unless of course they've got a solar panel running at 50%. Which Last i checked was not the case. i believe we may be in the 20% range these days, (which is why I used that in my calculation)

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 08:57 PM (PALjS)

484 479 BC1981,

BC we could ride her all the way to D Day....


Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 08:57 PM (LRFds)

485
"Still, I know a guy who put up his ownwind mill in his back yardand he nowpays zeroon hisenergy bill."

Bullshit. Post a picture of this "windmill".

Small residential wind turbines have been THE biggest single bust in the "green" energy movement. There's a reason why the turbines are getting bigger and bigger every year. Because scaling laws murder their efficiency when they're small.

Of course, the very biggest wind turbines still have the problem associated with them producing power only intermittently and randomly. This inheres in the nature of wind itself.

To this, add the issue that once a turbine gets above a certain size, the physical stresses upon things like the gearbox then become extremely difficult engineering problems. Gearboxes were billed as lasting 25 to 30 years. Except there are wind farms built out less than a decade ago where failed gearboxes are now quite common. Fixing this, atop a structure many stories high, is nontrivial and very expensive.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 16, 2012 08:57 PM (ymG7s)

486 Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2012 08:53 PM

Another venture firm thinks it can revive Hostess. That's what the firm that bought it before hopes. If they keep the same plants open with the same union slugs, they'll get the same results.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:57 PM (wwsoB)

487 She sounds dumb to me. Is she?

Posted by: Thorvald at November 16, 2012 08:58 PM (1V6Pv)

488 Another venture firm thinks it can revive Hostess. That's what the firm
that bought it before hopes. If they keep the same plants open with the
same union slugs, they'll get the same results.


****

They will buy it as a defunct company and avoid absorbing the unions.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:59 PM (piMMO)

489
Take the gun, leave the cannoli, fat ass...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 16, 2012 09:00 PM (sRsX7)

490 Are some of you low KWh users using propane or gas for heating and cooking?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM (piMMO)I'm in the opposite climate from you, NDH. 7,700 feet elevation, highest bills in winter, though my heat, hot water and stove top run on nat gas. 2,100 SF ranch with not the best windows. 2 adults.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 09:00 PM (1Y+hH)

491 The idea that there is a union for bakers is insane.

Then again, in St. Louis, grocery checkers have a union.

Let 'em burn.

Posted by: Palandine at November 16, 2012 09:00 PM (g7D8V)

492 Hey,the Dems in the House and Senate have at least given lip service to the defense of Israel the last 2 days.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 09:00 PM (9XBK2)

493 Are some of you low KWh users using propane or gas for heating and cooking?


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM

Propane and propane accessories

Posted by: Hank Hill at November 16, 2012 09:00 PM (wwsoB)

494 They will buy it as a defunct company and avoid absorbing the unions.


****

Let it be liquidated and the firm can purchase only what they need, most importantly, the brands and the recipes.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:00 PM (piMMO)

495 if hostess can declare bankruptcy and get out of its union contracts, it is more attractive and could survive

Posted by: thunderb at November 16, 2012 09:01 PM (Dnbau)

496 475 KbDaBear,

Yeah there's something to reason over...

Meremortal...


I think the Luap Nors the establishment demanding we go RiNo as first resort...

the fucking war...the media being in shameless overdrive....


no part of me looks at the data that is KNOWN and goes..."ehhhh we're okay"

The other part goes "how in the hell" and I am avoiding "why am I even trying these two parties are playing very different games and only one side follows the rules at all and we're losing"

no I need to stare at some water.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:01 PM (LRFds)

497
Cake in Meghan McCain's mouth works to put a stop to this problem.
Thought we'd established this already....

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 16, 2012 09:01 PM (IQdEJ)

498 I could imagine getting all you energy from renewables, I think I even have some detailed plans from my hippie days somewhere in the attic for a farm energy system. (Biosdiesel powered generator and pump with the cooling jacket running through an insulated tank etc). But even that design requires you to live like it was an RV or boat or something with minimal lighting and 12v appliances.

I live like a freakin American, thank you very much 20th Century.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:01 PM (QupBk)

499
Another venture firm thinks it can revive
Hostess. That's what the firm that bought it before hopes. If they keep
the same plants open with the same union slugs, they'll get the same
results.



Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 08:57 PM (wwsoB)


No, they'll just buy the IP/brands without the burden of all the old contracts of the Hostess company.

Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2012 09:02 PM (X6akg)

500 489 K v C,


hahahahahaha for Moogan or Joisey Buddah?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:02 PM (LRFds)

501 ripples, oh so sorry meant nipples

Posted by: akak at November 16, 2012 09:02 PM (eFroM)

502 Romney wanted to invade Syria too. He wanted to invade Syria more.

Posted by: boulder hobo, remembering the debates at November 16, 2012 09:03 PM (dOgaW)

503 I don't want to invade Syria, I just want to smite them for being asshole vassals of the Iranians. I mean really, why do they need electric power in Syria?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:04 PM (QupBk)

504 DRINO - Daughter of Republican In Name Only

Posted by: Matt at November 16, 2012 09:04 PM (ljiM/)

505 487 Thorvald,


no sir she is "deep" or at least her ass cleavage is....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:04 PM (LRFds)

506 I have zero problem with muslims killing muslims in Syria or anywhere else.The more the better in fact.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 09:04 PM (9XBK2)

507 isnt a moderate code word for someone whos liberal but is too afraid to admit it.

I wonder what would hasten her departure.

Posted by: pmb88 at November 16, 2012 09:04 PM (5S+Iv)

508 US embassy warning in Athens (via zerohedge)







"a rise in unprovoked harassment and violent attacks against
persons who, because of their complexion, are perceived to be foreign
migrants. U.S. citizens most at risk are those of African, Asian,
Hispanic, or Middle Eastern descent in Athens and other major cities"
Of course they can't say "look muslim" but that's what I gather the Greeks mean.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM (hO9ad)

509 In happy news, a customer brought her niece around the shop today selling Girl Scout cookies, the two boxes I bought didn't survive long enough to make it home.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM (GZitp)

510 They will buy it as a defunct company and avoid absorbing the unions.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 08:59 PM

Which was pretty much expected. The brands are worth a lot, and that's what you're buying and nothing else. You don't buy the plants, assets, or liabilities.

That's what should have been done with GM and Chrysler. The Chevy and Cadillac brands would have gone on under any one of the world's automakers. Jeep would have drawn high bids from Chrysler's breakup

In case you were wondering how that works, Jaguar, Land Rover, Rolls Royce, Mini, and Lotus are all British marquees even though they're owned by non-British companies

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM (wwsoB)

511 483 456 Can you really get 5 KWh per day per square meter from a home Solar panel? Or are these "Solar Calculators" BSing me?
Posted by: toby928© for TB

Toby
my previous calculation is correct, but the people selling you the solar panel are not completely lying, their probably just Democrats, so don't mind bending the truth. You see, a day is 24 hours, so if you multiply my calculation by a factor of 2.4 to get 24 hours then you get to about 5kW-hours. So they aren't lying, their just changing what the defintion of the word "is" is....so you'd have to run for about 2.5 days in order to get one of their "days" of energy. Sorry, for being an energy that calculates shit in real world terms.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM (PALjS)

512 I don't want to invade Syria, I just want to smite them for being
asshole vassals of the Iranians.

________________________________________


I do believe that the Golden Urkel is working on a significant reduction in our smiting powers.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM (Nfpnr)

513 o/t > 487 posts... Limbaugh said they're still covering up something in Banghazi-gate, but not the kook-fringe possibilities that (a) they may have wanted to trade Amb. Stevens for The Blind Sheikh, nor (b) that Stevens was running guns to Syrian rebels.
We shall see what we shall see. Or not. I do agree with Limbaugh that if you had something huge and unpalatable to hide, a cover-up that eventually gets blown would definitely suffice. Gramnesty-McCain goes where with that?
On the other hand, if you knew you'd just eaten your dinner host's dog, asking for seconds on the turnips and then for a doggy bag for the the salsify you couldn't swallow would lay a false trail: no one would guess you were already full of dog.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM (1V6Pv)

514 510 Yep.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2012 09:07 PM (9XBK2)

515 U.S. citizens most at risk are those of African, Asian,

Hispanic, or Middle Eastern descent in Athens and other major cities"

Of course they can't say "look muslim" but that's what I gather the Greeks mean.


Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 09:05 PM

US citizens of any complexion are at high risk. The Greeks have hated us more than the French do for decades

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:07 PM (wwsoB)

516 I'm sure it's already been said in the thread, but my problem with Meghan McCain is not her positions or the fact she's non-traditional. My problem is being lectured to about politics by somebody who literally knows less about than I did as a sophomore in high school.

Posted by: AD at November 16, 2012 09:07 PM (UWXuw)

517 I'm convinced we were running an "illegal" interrogation center in Benghazi, at Barry's direction. That's the only thing that makes sense as far the depth of the coverup.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:07 PM (QupBk)

518 I live like a freakin American, thank you very much 20th Century.Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:01 PM (QupBk)___ _____ ____ ___ Not that there's anything WRONG with that!;D

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 09:07 PM (1Y+hH)

519 also WTF is this BS about "hijacked my party?" She's talking like she's the female Nelson Rockefeller or some shit

k sorry, I'm done

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 09:08 PM (60GaT)

520 @491 I bought a 1927 Bugatti Tipo 41 off a Manhattan stagehand union member. He was trading up.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 16, 2012 09:08 PM (1V6Pv)

521 k sorry, I'm done

No, no. That's a great point. In what way is this her party at all?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:09 PM (QupBk)

522 I might as well order her out of my country.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:10 PM (QupBk)

523 "I donít fit into the traditional Republican box that the wingnuts who have hijacked my party think all Republicans should."

Yeah, you're a fucking idiot. Now go away.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 16, 2012 09:10 PM (F3HO3)

524 Maybe we were holding the 'dead' bin ladin at the CIA annex.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:11 PM (QupBk)

525 522 Toby 928th,

That may become a literal possibility in the near future.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:11 PM (LRFds)

526
Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:01 PM (LRFds)


___ ____ ____ ___


Yes, that and more. I was just trying to look at it coldy, just the numbers. Tent is big, and yet lost the election. Turnout was an issue, but still...Rs are getting killed on the message, and operating from a huge disadvantage against the media.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 09:11 PM (1Y+hH)

527 Scanning the news sites you would never know the former head of the CIA just blew up the administrations story regarding the statements the administration made regarding the 9/11/2012 terrorist attack on the Benghazi embassy.

WHERE ARE OUR SAM DONALDSON'S

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 16, 2012 09:11 PM (0fxcV)

528 So why won't B+rry come to the defense of the lowly twinkie, the least amoung the cake family?

Posted by: torabora at November 16, 2012 09:12 PM (ZHXaA)

529 Little Debbie lives in Section 8 housing.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:12 PM (QupBk)

530 The Greeks are weimar now, and are going Golden Dawn. They don't care about Islam, they hate the Jews just as much. Check the Khryse Auge's English language site.

Posted by: boulder hobo, remembering the debates at November 16, 2012 09:14 PM (dOgaW)

531 Even with 5KWhs /m2, they calculators are saying it will cost $74K to panel up for 1500. @ 170 a month that's 435 months to break even. 36 years.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:16 PM (QupBk)

532 operating from a huge disadvantage against the media.
Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground

_ _ _ __ _ __ _
Yes....i think the state run media has so many people fooled. That was the game changer in the past two elections. They tried it with GW, but not quite as bad, "they learned their lesson" and went balls out for Oldbama. Literally....for Chris The shitball Matthews.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:16 PM (PALjS)

533 ZOMG!

OT, But I just found out that Susan Rice is Black!

Now that we know that, there is NO WAY she could be culpable, incompetent, or ever wrong.

LEAVE SUSAN RICE ALONE!!!!111!!

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 16, 2012 09:17 PM (JtyGg)

534 It bears repeating that McCain *OPENED* with this gambit. She has been about to flee because everyone else won't kowtow to her wishes *from day one*.

She is always leaving, never gone. Sadly.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 09:17 PM (bxiXv)

535 So, from her ramblings are we to suspect that Maggie Moo is actually a balance-the-budget-in-2-years-or-less-mostly-with-spending-cuts libertarian?

Or is she, like her old-man, basically a government-must-help-anyone-who-is-in-"need" statist Republican? In other words, a liberal?

Because the GOP has basically been running that sort of candidate since 1988 (without exception) to pretty piss-poor results.

That said, and I hope my pro-life so-con cred isn't going to be hurt by this, but I have to admit every time I hear morons like Akin open their mouths about "rape" it makes me cringe. Good Gawd - could we first get infanticide, I mean "partial-birth-abortion", banned before we start even talking about telling 18-year olds they have to carry a rape-baby to term?

Posted by: DocJ at November 16, 2012 09:18 PM (V20sy)

536 523
"I donít fit into the traditional Republican box that the wingnuts who have hijacked my party think all Republicans should."

Yeah, you're a fucking idiot. Now go away.


Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 16, 2012 09:10 PM

Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority" started up in the late 70s and was instrumental in turning out voters for Reagan's 1980 landslide and the takeover of the Senate in that year.

Meggie McJugs was born Oct 23, 1984. They were here before you were even a sperm in your daddy's balls, Sugar Tits

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:18 PM (wwsoB)

537 If I stick you guys for all the taxbreaks and subsidies, it only takes 25 years to breakeven.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:18 PM (QupBk)

538 526 Meremortal....


part of the problem is and this has been the false hope of my life since 1988 their pact is a coalition of directly competing interests united solely by their hatred of either us or America.

We engage in politics because we fear attack on our liberty or economy they engage in politics for either survival, power, or religion replacement.

These are different battlescapes than ours.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (LRFds)

539 MFM delenda est.

Also, vigilantism may be the only way WRT vote fraud, no one in power will do anything serious about it. Infiltrate the leftists orgs doing it, unauthorized wiretaps posted on the internet, set up honeypots online for people to brag about it then publish their IPs, that sort of thing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (bxiXv)

540 Barry doesn't need to he won

Posted by: akak at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (eFroM)

541 Apropos of nothing, there's something very soothing about watching guys beat the crap out of each other.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (Gk3SS)

542 Ex-Bears coach Mike Ditka is hospitalized after suffering a possible mini-stroke - @ABC7Chicago

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (1Y+hH)

543 No, no. That's a great point. In what way is this her party at all?

She thinks her mommy and daddy own it.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 09:20 PM (hO9ad)

544 Apropos of nothing, there's something very soothing about watching guys beat the crap out of each other.

I thought there was a NHL strike or something?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:20 PM (QupBk)

545 528 So why won't B+rry come to the defense of the lowly twinkie, the least amoung the cake family?
Posted by: torabora at November 16, 2012

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
I think Bacon and Twinkies are both on Michelle's "Shit List".
McDonald's, Hostess, etc. They don't get the pass....so Barky does what michelle tells him.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:20 PM (PALjS)

546 These are different battlescapes than ours.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (LRFds)____ ____ ____ ____ ___We think alike on many of these things.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 09:21 PM (1Y+hH)

547
See, Megan, this is the difference: You're a party hack.

If the Democrats suddenly decided tomorrow to cut the size of government, reduce spending, lower taxes, and return power to the States, I'd be a Democrat.

Come to think of it, I'm not quite sure why I'm a registered Republican. I guess so I can vote in the primaries, and maybe have some hope of changing the party from within.

Posted by: blindside at November 16, 2012 09:21 PM (2rf52)

548 467 --- "...get government out of marriage altogether."
Posted by: Cricket at November 16, 2012 08:50 PM (2ArJQ)

This might be a reasonable solution now that we find ourselves in a society without broad agreement on these things. But it will NOT satisfy the Left because their purpose is not to help gays.
Their purpose is to force Christians to bow down before their idols, to profess belief in gay "marriage," and to demonize anyone who holds to traditional values.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2012 09:21 PM (C8mVl)

549 537 If I stick you guys for all the taxbreaks and subsidies, it only takes 25 years to breakeven.
Posted by: toby928© for TB
_ _ _ _ _
F*ck it. Go for it. I'm looking into Food Stamps.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:21 PM (PALjS)

550 Sports have figured out lame ducks but until society deals with lame duck officials- doesn\t matter who wins

Posted by: akak at November 16, 2012 09:22 PM (eFroM)

551 I thought there was a NHL strike or something?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:20 PM (QupBk)


MMA is filling the void at the moment.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:22 PM (Gk3SS)

552 541 Apropos of nothing, there's something very soothing about watching guys beat the crap out of each other.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:19 PM (Gk3SS)




Ummmm....what?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:22 PM (GEICT)

553 No, no. That's a great point. In what way is this her party at all?


****

She needs t turn that fat finger around. It is her and her ilk that are trying to hijack the party.

How the hell does she think it managed to survive for more than 150 years without the wisdom of the Lady Gaga crowd?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:22 PM (piMMO)

554 "Or is she, like her old-man, basically a
government-must-help-anyone-who-is-in-'need' statist Republican? In
other words, a liberal? Because the GOP has basically been running that sort of candidate since 1988 (without exception) to pretty piss-poor results. That
said, and I hope my pro-life so-con cred isn't going to be hurt by
this, but I have to admit every time I hear morons like Akin open their
mouths about 'rape' it makes me cringe."

Reagan won by being conservative but also by treating the hardest line anti-abortion socons warily.

Every year there was a National March for Life on the Washington Mall. Each year, Reagan declined to address them directly, though they were right there in D.C. -- he sent video greetings only in which he talked about the value of life, but without advancing any specific policy changes.

And that approach worked.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 16, 2012 09:23 PM (ymG7s)

555
Does anyone care? With luck,Meghan will take her daddy, McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor with her.
Bring on the sequester, and let the tax cuts expire. As H.L. Mencken is alleged to have said, "the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard".

Posted by: Chris at November 16, 2012 09:23 PM (/l7+K)

556 I'm looking into Food Stamps.

Word. I'm sort of composing an email to Boy928 to encourage him to go take that stuff; EBT, Medicaid, Obamaphone, the whole lot. He's poor enough to get it but has too much youth and pride, but hell, we're paying for it.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:24 PM (QupBk)

557 Meggie Mac's favorite question: Can I get that with gravy?

Posted by: trapeze at November 16, 2012 09:24 PM (uonlI)

558 Infiltrate the leftists orgs doing it,
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
already signed up for an account on the DNC website. going deep undercover. Under a false name of course. Stepped back from joining the Communist party USA....after going to their website i realized their essentially the same as the DNC.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:25 PM (PALjS)

559 551 MMA is filling the void at the moment.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:22 PM (Gk3SS)




Ah. UFC? Who's the main event?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:25 PM (GEICT)

560 #555 I too want to see what's on the other side of the cliff. These congresspricks crafted it, make them wear it.
Hopefully 2 years from now we can claw back into the Senate majority....without McConnell.

Posted by: torabora at November 16, 2012 09:25 PM (ZHXaA)

561 Thread's more stale than my standup routine in 1985.

Posted by: Robert Klein at November 16, 2012 09:26 PM (uD2fR)

562 What a miserable cunt.

Posted by: Corona at November 16, 2012 09:26 PM (fh2Y7)

563 Will there be free condoms on the other side of the cliff?

Posted by: Julie (also 1/32 Indian) at November 16, 2012 09:27 PM (ZHXaA)

564
I dunno. She has a point, of sorts.
When conservatives classify more than a hundred and forty million Americansas 'lazy, shiftless, drunken drug addicts and welfare whores who want all our stuff,' ya gotta wonder what they're thinking.
Directly insult, denigrate, demean and dehumanizehalf of America, the half that's poor and poverty stricken, and wonder why they won't vote for ya?
Gee. I can't begin to understand that one, myself. it's totally beyond me, dude. < /sarc.
Gotta give ya credit for sayin' what yer thinkin, though. I can appreciate that kind of honesty. Really.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 16, 2012 09:27 PM (WwR1j)

565 I am a free marketer (senior technical professional) and a national security hawk (veteran and rabid anti-jihadist) who voted for and supported Romney because the Looter-in-Chief hates my country and is trying to destroy it and even a NE RINO is preferable to that.

I do not support gay marriage, per se, but I believe that passing laws that specifically target American citizens for non-violent behavior between consenting adults is contrary to our beloved right to the pursuit of happiness.

I do not understand homosexual relationships and I find the public displays of so-called 'pride' to be disgustingly pornographic and inappropriate no matter who is doing what to who with what or whatever. However, I do know honest hard working people who love America and have served her with honor who happen to be gay in the privacy of their homes. Targeting them specifically is to be on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:27 PM (jts1f)

566 Ah. UFC? Who's the main event?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:25 PM (GEICT)


No idea, I randomly saw it on MTV2 because I'm saving watching Ancient Aliens for later (shut up) and really given the last weekish, watching guys beat the crap out of each other is soothing indeed.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:27 PM (Gk3SS)

567 I'm getting off the train in Scranton.
*takes sunglasses off and stares crazy eyed at you*

Posted by: Sheriff Joe Fucking Biden at November 16, 2012 09:28 PM (ZHXaA)

568 "ZOMG!

OT, But I just found out that Susan Rice is Black!

Now that we know that, there is NO WAY she could be culpable, incompetent, or ever wrong.

LEAVE SUSAN RICE ALONE!!!!111!!


Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 16, 2012 09:17 PM (JtyGg)"

Be careful! You must not attack any blacks around here or you will be shunned and told to go back to lurking.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at November 16, 2012 09:28 PM (V70Uh)

569
Tidbit from Israel:



The IDF also revealed on Friday that it had taken out Hamasís nascent drone program.

Posted by: Meremortal, Let It Burn To The Ground at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (1Y+hH)

570 Wait, did I miss teh gays being targeted by someone?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (uD2fR)

571 562 What a miserable cunt.
Posted by: Corona at November 16, 2012 09:26 PM (fh2Y7)



That word isn't something that's looked kindly on around here.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (GEICT)

572 533 burnt toast

I didn't know that either! I thought Rice was some swarthy type of middle eastern descent. Lol! I heard that on FNC and thought wtf? I need to get my eyes checked. Suzy Rice is black. OK if you say so, but I'm not sure. This might be a lie to give her the same cover O has.

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (0PiQ4)

573 Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 16, 2012 09:27 PM (WwR1j)

Have you cited a fact that originated somewhere other than your rectum?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 09:30 PM (uD2fR)

574 I dunno.

Truer words never spoken.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2012 09:30 PM (Jpeqn)

575 Targeting them specifically is to be on the wrong side of history.

Not a lot of that going on since Lawrence v Texas.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:31 PM (QupBk)

576 Meghan thread up longer than a Benghazi thread? Really?

Posted by: Critic at November 16, 2012 09:31 PM (BVkEs)

577
She is always leaving, never gone. Sadly.

How can we miss her if she won't go away?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 09:31 PM (lOmbq)

578 Now now - Megan isn't fat. Nobody she's had sex with has ever complained to her. That's how she knows.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 09:32 PM (2t6Gz)

579 I like how Warren says Meghan has a "point", and then goes blathering on about something she never mentioned at all.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2012 09:32 PM (Jpeqn)

580 Gay marriage is just a stalking horse for Muslim polygamy anyway.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:33 PM (QupBk)

581 No idea, I randomly saw it on MTV2 because I'm saving watching Ancient Aliens for later (shut up) and really given the last weekish, watching guys beat the crap out of each other is soothing indeed.



I miss Gina Carano. Totally hot and totally bad ass.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:33 PM (GEICT)

582 BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (GEICT)

There's a speech code?

You're joking right? Right?

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (SP4jC)

583 570 Wait, did I miss teh gays being targeted by someone? Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (uD2fR)

DOMA etc

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (jts1f)

584 That word isn't something that's looked kindly on around here.



***

Well, not unless you spell it like c**t

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (piMMO)

585 Why does marriage have to be between people anyway. Perhaps love is best shared among people.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (QupBk)

586 As the younguns are wont to say, "Tits or GTFO."

Posted by: holygoat at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (IGIFh)

587 DOMA etc

?? Elaborate, if you will.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:35 PM (QupBk)

588 DOMA etc

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (jts1f)


And who is that targeting again?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 16, 2012 09:35 PM (uD2fR)

589 571


That word isn't something that's looked kindly on around here.



Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (GEICT)

Is the phrase "twat muffin" acceptable according to the AoS Stylebook? I don't have my e-book handy.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 16, 2012 09:36 PM (9SwFX)

590 When conservatives classify more than a hundred and forty million Americansas 'lazy, shiftless, drunken drug addicts and welfare whores who want all our stuff,' ya gotta wonder what they're thinking.
Directly insult, denigrate, demean and dehumanizehalf of America, the half that's poor and poverty stricken, and wonder why they won't vote for ya?

_ _ _ _ _ _
Please provide examples. I believe the main thrust of the platform of the Republicans was to create a better economy to help the people that are poor and down on their luck. Seems to me that its the Democrats that keep doing things to ruin the economy....with such stupidity it's like their are doing it on purpose just to perpetuate the situation of the poor and down trodden....keep them down so they keep voting for the people that claim to help them...while instilling horrific policies and programs that actually create more poor.

I agree Romney was a complete douche when he said 47% of america want free shit. Even though it was correct, this did insult almost half of america. That's the problem.....though....but you're right, no candidate should ever mutter such insults true or untrue, if he wants to get elected in today's Free Shit Lovin' Amerika.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:36 PM (PALjS)

591 just waiting long enough

for someone to be offended, oh the horror

Posted by: akak at November 16, 2012 09:36 PM (eFroM)

592 H2 has apocalypse documentaries on tonight, along with ancient aliens

I think I'll watch those to cheer me up

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:37 PM (wwsoB)

593 Perhaps love is best shared among people.

Species'ist knuckle dragger!

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 16, 2012 09:37 PM (DnAmd)

594 I mean, why can't a man marry more than one woman? It's historically way more common and accepted than any other fetish.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:37 PM (QupBk)

595 582 BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:29 PM (GEICT)

There's a speech code?

You're joking right? Right?
Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 09:34 PM (SP4jC)




As I understand it, that's the only word Ace frowns upon.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:37 PM (GEICT)

596 oh megan is leaving? oh ok.....

....WERE NOT GONNA WIN WITH LEFTWICH, ITS FUCKING OVER....

...oh megan is leaving huh? yeah who gives a flying...

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 16, 2012 09:38 PM (nVqtU)

597 You people are just monogynistic haters.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:38 PM (QupBk)

598 So. Any orbit crossers nearby that we can psychically shift into an intersecting vector?

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 09:38 PM (SP4jC)

599 When conservatives classify more than a hundred and forty million
Americansas 'lazy, shiftless, drunken drug addicts and welfare whores
who want all our stuff,' ya gotta wonder what they're thinking.


Judging from the election results, I'd say we undercounted them


Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:38 PM (wwsoB)

600 DRAINO - Daughter of Republican Arizonan In Name Only

Posted by: gh at November 16, 2012 09:39 PM (MWJqf)

601 Speaker Boehner, *this* is how you negotiate:

"To wit: When the Democrats demand a tax-rate increase in exchange for spending cuts, Republicans should smile and remind the Democrats ... of the two past instances of unrealized spending cuts and say the following: ďBut of course, President Obama, Majority Leader Reid, Minority Leader Pelosi, we Republicans would be delighted to discuss ... raising tax rates on ďthe wealthyĒ Ė as soon as weíve made every penny of the spending cuts Democrats promised in 1982 and 1990. Adjusted for inflation, of course."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 16, 2012 09:39 PM (4h0z0)

602 580 Gay marriage is just a stalking horse for Muslim polygamy anyway. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:33 PM (QupBk)

I consider Islam a death cult and a political ideology that needs to be stamped out.

However, what about Christian polygamy? or secular polyandry? or perhaps a line marriage?

Why should the state regulate how people choose to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes? If the answer starts with God or the bible says, I will not be swayed.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:40 PM (jts1f)

603 H2 has apocalypse documentaries on tonight, along with ancient aliens

I think I'll watch those to cheer me up



And then Deep Sea Detectives so we can look for cthulhu! See, it's all happy.


Oh hey in more what me spoiled pffffffft news, I come home and Mommy has stopped by and washed my dishes and straightened up the living room. Oh and gotten me a Santa teddy bear. I am now contemplating trying to stay sick for as long as I can.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:41 PM (Gk3SS)

604
I mean, why can't a man marry more than one woman? It's historically way more common and accepted than any other fetish.

That's just masochistic.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 09:41 PM (lOmbq)

605
1) Redefine terrorists
2) Imprison guys who make bad movies
3) Peace dividend!

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 16, 2012 09:41 PM (DnAmd)

606 Can't say no, we're too busy saying YES

Posted by: Ice Cube at November 16, 2012 09:42 PM (MVGKx)

607 >>>600 DRAINO - Daughter of Republican Arizonan In Name Only

Thread winner

Posted by: El Kabong, Honorable Moron from AZ at November 16, 2012 09:42 PM (pzmYs)

608 Great. Rev Franklin Graham talking about how men and women have different plumbing. That's really helpful. We don't look stupid. Arent there any socons out there who can make a convincing argument? I agree with them but talking about anatomy in terms of plumbing isn't helping the cause

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 09:42 PM (0PiQ4)

609 Oh hey in more what me spoiled pffffffft news, I come home and Mommy has stopped by and washed my dishes and straightened up the living room. Oh and gotten me a Santa teddy bear. I am now contemplating trying to stay sick for as long as I can.


You are so spoiled.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:42 PM (GEICT)

610 As I understand it, that's the only word Ace frowns upon.

There is one other.

Posted by: painful stool at November 16, 2012 09:43 PM (hO9ad)

611 Why should the state regulate how people choose to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes? If the answer starts with God or the bible says, I will not be swayed.

Short answer, it doesn't. People do all those things now, pretty much without even censure.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:43 PM (QupBk)

612 Susan rice was born to two American parents while they were in Iran.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 16, 2012 09:43 PM (I2LwF)

613
Why should the state regulate how people choose to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes? If the answer starts with God or the bible says, I will not be swayed.

Far more psychological studies than I care to recall all say the same thing: the healthiest environment for a child to be raised in is a household with one male and one female parent.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 09:44 PM (lOmbq)

614 99 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!
"Dim Bulb. Big Titties."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at November 16, 2012 09:45 PM (i0vBR)

615 You are so spoiled.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:42 PM (GEICT)


Pish posh I'm only mostly spoiled. I did, however, win the we are taking my car and not theirs when we go to my brother's for Thanksgiving battle. I am currently losing the who will pay for the gas war.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:45 PM (Gk3SS)

616 As I understand it, that's the only word Ace frowns upon.

There is one other.



Posted by: painful stool


Great Sucker of Cock?

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 16, 2012 09:46 PM (JtyGg)

617 I think that epithets towards any fellow moron(ette) should be frowned upon and any upright and ethically person would agree.

However there are times when certain individuals who are outside of our reach and lack the required regular attendance (AFAWK) to be deserving of any reticence. Plus there a certain, je nais se qua, distinct flavor perhaps to the phrase that other phrases don't come close to.

And because it's so frowned upon being able to justify it's use is a delight to these old bones.

I would consider Ms McCain someone of the latter group, outside our milieu here.

Is there a term referring to the masculine members that is frowned upon? If not then I detect an imbalance that should be redressed.

Might I ask if "See You iN Toledo" is OK or not?

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 09:46 PM (SP4jC)

618 Far more psychological studies than I care to recall all say the same thing: the healthiest environment for a child to be raised in is a household with one male and one female parent.

True, but irrelevant to his query. The State doesn't regulate marriage in the sense that it forbids love or whatever. You can 'marry' anyone you wish. The state affords some automatic contract statuses to monogamist hetero marriages, along with some cash benefits.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:47 PM (QupBk)

619 Pish posh I'm only mostly spoiled. I did, however, win the we are taking my car and not theirs when we go to my brother's for Thanksgiving battle. I am currently losing the who will pay for the gas war.



So you're winning all the way around?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:47 PM (GEICT)

620 Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 16, 2012 09:43 PM (I2LwF)

Soooo... its your contention that it matters more who your parents were, than where you were born???

Then Obama IS Kenyan....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 16, 2012 09:47 PM (lZBBB)

621 The N word is out. The K word should be out.

Wop's okay.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 16, 2012 09:47 PM (I2LwF)

622 That should cheer everyone up! Actually I think there should be a RHINO purge personally.

Posted by: james at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (1PqiV)

623 Talk about mudflaps, Meggie's got 'em

Posted by: TexasJew at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (IpwkJ)

624 612
Susan rice was born to two American parents while they were in Iran.




Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 16, 2012 09:43 PM



You thinking of Valeria Jarrett?

Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (X6akg)

625 When conservatives classify more than a hundred and forty million Americansas 'lazy, shiftless, drunken drug addicts and welfare whores who want all our stuff,' ya gotta wonder what they're thinking.

Tell you what - on the first weekday of any month stop by any 7-11 in any crappy (city) neighborhood in the USA at around noon-ish. You can participate in the joy of standing in line waiting to pay for a can of diet Iced Tea with about 20 of your fellow nation-dwellers - and I will bet you that 90-100 percent of those seemingly able-bodied nominal (or at least chronological) adults will all flash the identical "gold card" when they pay for their Ho-Ho's, blunts, chips and Big Gulps.

Meaning that you're paying for their shit.

Then come back and tell me why "classifying a hundred and forty million Americansas 'lazy, shiftless, drunken drug addicts and welfare whores who want all our stuff'" is anything other than an understatement of the disgraceful reality in the USA today.

Posted by: DocJ at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (V20sy)

626 Filthy Scandi Iceback is still okay, yes?

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (QupBk)

627 And then Deep Sea Detectives so we can look for cthulhu!

Isn't seeing cthulhu a d100 insanity penalty?

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (hO9ad)

628 So you're winning all the way around?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:47 PM (GEICT)


Considering that my brother is an amazing cook, pretty much!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:49 PM (Gk3SS)

629 If the wailing from teh gheys is any indication, (see any jimi ray ONT rant), they have to feel that someone somewhere is oppressing them.

Why, if they get so much as a grimace while strolling hand in hand with their partner, it's like Bull Connor turning the hoses on them.

Anything less than "wow, you are so cool and BRAVE" from passersby leads to cries of "see the violence inherent in the system!!!"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:49 PM (wwsoB)

630 re: 587 588 DOMA etc...

Really, semantic games? I am talking about passing laws designed to deny civil rights to a specific demographic based on the prejudices of another demographic.

I find gay pride and other public pornography reppellant. I think the Hollywood fixation on 2-3% of the population being portrayed as much larger segment of society than they are is offensive. I also find targeting individuals as a class to be contrary to the right to the pursuit of happiness.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:49 PM (jts1f)

631 Might I ask if "See You iN Toledo" is OK or not?

See You Next Tuesday

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 09:49 PM (a2B13)

632 Romeo, it is painfully apparent that Susan Rice is a muzzie-loving twatfaced rat.

Just remember to be as truthful as you can be about the muzzie-loving twatfaced rat.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (I2LwF)

633
Why should the state regulate how people choose
to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes? If the
answer starts with God or the bible says, I will not be swayed.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younge

You are correct, personal partnerships and equal protection as defined in the constitution is fine. But marriage is the pillar of society. Trample on that and you trample on the foundation of what holds things together. Look at what has happened to the inner city since LBJ instilled his policies. The family has fallen apart and now the inncer cities are rampant with crime, murder, and hate. Look at the crime rates in the inner city before 1967 and then after. Striking difference...directly correlate to unwed mother and divorce etc.

I'm fine with gay marriage as long as you legally have the states vote for it. You need to keep it out of the Courts and let each state decide. It needs to be decided by the voters and in accordance with each states constitution to properly change the law. If the people vote for it, then that's what our country is all about. I would not be upset if it was legally voted for....as we claim to abide by the laws and rules of governance, so we can live by them. If the gay movement can convince enough people to support them, then that's fine. Have at it. Next up, we need to start supporting the persecuted Mormon's, who were once driven from this land, simply because they believed in Polygamy. Why isn't anyone supporting them?

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (PALjS)

634 Republican Party must self-squishify or Meghan McCain leaves? Hey, I saw this scene in Blazing Saddles!:
"Give up or the vacuous obnoxious self-important worthless fat blonde shoots herself!

....Uhhh, NOT GIVING UP!!"

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (WCzJ6)

635 602 --- "Why should the state regulate how people choose to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes?"
Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:40 PM (jts1f)

Damned straight! Just because every society previously known to man has had moral and legal regulation of sexual behavior and marriage is no reason why we should. We are sooooo superior, so beyond that.
And I think I will marry my son. We looooooove each other.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (C8mVl)

636 When Progressives label 200 million Americans as snake-handling, pro-rape, greedy Papist Klansmen Nazis,you gotta wonder if they don't have a point.

Posted by: Warwick Flacidbone at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (sv/s3)

637 Sounds like there's going to be a good old fashioned slaughter tonight.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (2t6Gz)

638 I think it would be easier if the Conservatives disavow the Republican Party than the other way around. I know I have. I won't be talked down to by the likes of Jindal, Christie and the other weaklings. If we are going to lose the country I want to go down telling the truth about what got us there.

Posted by: Ken Royall at November 16, 2012 09:50 PM (x0g8a)

639 628
Considering that my brother is an amazing cook, pretty much!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:49 PM (Gk3SS)




Have I mentioned that I hate you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (GEICT)

640 I also find targeting individuals as a class to be contrary to the right to the pursuit of happiness.

"Targeting?"

Seriously?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (a2B13)

641 I am talking about passing laws designed to deny civil rights to a specific demographic based on the prejudices of another demographic.

Like what? Gays are free to marry.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (QupBk)

642 Meghan McCain is a dumb twat, but I actually agree with a lot of what she's saying on this.

The GOP basically has a coalition that's running the same playbook as if the demographics were frozen from 1980. They keep bragging about how "Reagan won 49 states" but the nation has changed, just like the Democrat coalition has changed.

I would LOVE it if Democrats kept running Michael Dukakis liberals that wanted to make capital punishment an issue and were soft on crime, but they moved on and won on other issues.

The biggest obstacle I see for the GOP is that it needs to stop trying to be the "Church Party", that's far and away the biggest impediment. We can't be the political party that's only for people who go to Church every Sunday, we just aren't that nation anymore.

Posted by: Jeepers at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (XDRsa)

643 When Israel goes in, they don't fuck around.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (2t6Gz)

644
Megan,

Don't let the screen door hit you in your big fat ass on the way out.

Posted by: Kirk Turner at November 16, 2012 09:52 PM (zqUW2)

645 Wikipedia says Rice was born in D.C.

Oh, and her parents taught her " never use race as an excuse or advantage".

I shit you not.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 16, 2012 09:52 PM (Rcq5f)

646 Isn't seeing cthulhu a d100 insanity penalty?


Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 09:48 PM (hO9ad)


See cthulhu and go insane or be perfectly cognizant of the world around you for the next four years? *taps chin* What to do, what to do?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:52 PM (Gk3SS)

647 608
Great. Rev Franklin Graham talking about how men and women have
different plumbing. That's really helpful. We don't look stupid.
Arent there any socons out there who can make a convincing argument? I
agree with them but talking about anatomy in terms of plumbing isn't
helping the cause

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 09:42 PM (0PiQ4)


Alrighty, here ya go.
The government has an interest in whatever keeps the peace. Children raised in poverty, without adequate parents, are likely to break the peace (read any of the studies out there about one-parent households and kids in jail, either as kids or adults later). Marriage, between one woman and one man, means that one person is busy doing the procreating and diaper changing while the other is doing the supporting and generally keeping the family off the public teat. These are all good things that are in the interest of the state.

So far, nobody has shown how two guys can procreate, nor operate in a manner in a family that is nearly as beneficial as a married couple, i.e. one woman and one man. While it is technically possible for two guys to raise kids, so far the psychological studies seem to validate the traditional wisdom, which is that one parent should be the mom and one should be the dad, and two dads just doesn't work as well. Some data shows that without two examples of how to be in life, i.e. how a woman is and how a man is in society, kids are not likely to learn how to be in society without becoming a detriment thereunto.
Basically, the state has no vested interest in Bob and Tom getting married. It doesn't work nearly as well as Bob and Sally, so why should the state get involved when Bob and Tom want to raise a few kids? It ends up being involved when Bob and Tom start screwing their way through the phone book and the kids end up in public funded therapy, but not in a good way.

That's the story, Charlie Brown.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 09:52 PM (VLG62)

648 Ace, why do you give this brainless bimbo page space? Certainly she's entitled to her opinion, but I'd contend that any number of the moron horde are better informed and more organized in their thoughts. She doesn't deserve the attention no matter who her daddy is. On the other hand, she does deserve to be ignored because of who her daddy is. Give her the bimbo banhammer.

Posted by: Xavier at November 16, 2012 09:53 PM (vjmsr)

649 Have I mentioned that I hate you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (GEICT)


Hmmm, what? Sorry couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:54 PM (Gk3SS)

650 Dear Lord. The wife is watching her dvr'ed Glee. I didn't realize Grease could get gayer. My mistake.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:54 PM (GEICT)

651 Soooo... its your contention that it matters more who your parents were, than where you were born???



Then Obama IS Kenyan....



Hmmm, 14th Amendment suggests that where you are born was MADE more important than who your parents are. But still, were it not for the 19th Obama would have be recognized as British/Kenyan despite the 14th.

Nonetheless, despite two amendments augmenting natural law, Obama is recognized as much an American as a natural born American.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 16, 2012 09:54 PM (JtyGg)

652 So, let me see; we have 1 woman who was born in Iran who is the close advisor of our Choom Meister. We have an other woman born in Iran in the UN as ambassador. The Sec State has a close confidant who has links to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.

Is it just me or is there a pattern here?

Oh, that's right Meghans' Dada already dispelled those evil un PC thoughts by anyone already, didn't he? Sinister accusations I think he called them?

Well he's right in a way. They are Sinister (as in evil) accusations as in accusations of evil going on.

Nice to know our hero is looking out for the Choom meisters hareem.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 09:54 PM (SP4jC)

653 The biggest obstacle I see for the GOP is that it
needs to stop trying to be the "Church Party", that's far and away the
biggest impediment. We can't be the political party that's only for
people who go to Church every Sunday, we just aren't that nation
anymore.


Posted by: Jeepers at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM

Again, they do have some pretty big numbers. Who do you think the GOP can entice to vote for them to replace those numbers?

Once upon a time, many of them were Democrats, especially in the Deep South

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 09:55 PM (wwsoB)

654 649 Have I mentioned that I hate you?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:51 PM (GEICT)

Hmmm, what? Sorry couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:54 PM (Gk3SS)




I'd smack you, but I'm pretty sure that's not a punishment.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:55 PM (GEICT)

655 Ha, just watched the Dragnet episode "Public Affairs"

Progs being Progs, some things never change.

Posted by: Not Ready To Unsock at November 16, 2012 09:56 PM (BgIBZ)

656
True, but irrelevant to his query.

IMHO, the state does have an interest in a well-adjusted populace. There's less crime, they (used to) make more money, which means a higher standard of living (not to mention more taxes paid).

A well-adjusted populace also produces vastly superior art, music, and literature that explore subjects other than sex.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (lOmbq)

657 Romney-Ryan did not run as social cons, though they do hold socon beliefs. Yet they were still tagged as theocrats-in-waiting.

Posted by: Zippo Bibrox 5x10 at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (sv/s3)

658 My God, but Allen West is a warrior.

Despite numerous attempts to shut him down, the latest being the denial of request by a judge earlier today, West refused to give up and now the St. Lucie Elections Board has relented and will recount all early votes.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (piMMO)

659 I'd smack you, but I'm pretty sure that's not a punishment.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 09:55 PM (GEICT)


I have no idea what you could possibly mean, me being a good girl and all.
Also what did you do to be subjected to Glee?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (Gk3SS)

660 613
Why should the state regulate how people choose to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes? If the answer starts with God or the bible says, I will not be swayed.

Far more psychological studies than I care to recall all say the same thing: the healthiest environment for a child to be raised in is a household with one male and one female parent.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 09:44 PM (lOmbq)


I agree. I raised four that way. All great kids and responsible contributing members of society. I would not choose to live any other way. Nonetheless, it is none of my business, or yours, how other people choose to live their lives.

As for the, "they do it anyway" answer in another response, they do it but with fear of being prosecuted and even if we stipulate for the sake of argument that there will be none, then they are still denied the right to civil contracts to protect the old and the young persons within the family group, which is what families are for, anthropologically speaking.

I agree the nuclear family is best and I want to live in a country where I am free to choose what I think is best. For me to have that right, I have to be willing to grant it to others.

If there is harm to children like with those freaks under the Jeffries cult, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. If the kids are healthy and happy and law abiding (otherwise), the families should be left alone.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:58 PM (jts1f)

661
I consider Islam a death cult and a political ideology that needs to be stamped out.

However, what about Christian polygamy? or secular polyandry? or perhaps a line marriage?

Why should the state regulate how people choose to form personal partnerships in the privacy of their homes? If the answer starts with God or the bible says, I will not be swayed.

Marriage is a feminist institution. It gives women power and influence. If multiple partners are permitted, it almost always leads to multiple young women marryinga powerful man. The other way around doesn't happen very often.Moreover, there is often incest in such arrangements.

If you look at apostate Mormons, you'll see this play out.

Marriage and its moral normativity dates back to pre-Christian Rome (and before). Homosexuality was perfectly well tolerated but there were no same-sex marriages. Marriages established parentage. What would be the point of a same-sex marriage? Polygamy leads to a shortage of available women, a problem that China is dealing with right now.

What is most disturbing about the same-sex marriage argument is how it assumes the worship of the state. There is no "banning" of marriage going on. It is just that the state will not issue a license for every arrangement under the sun.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2012 09:58 PM (xSegX)

662 The K word should be out.

Er, not to be indelicate but I have no idea what that one is. Could you elaborate its meaning?

Also, NASCAR truck race on Speed is under a red flag at the moment. When lifted, Kyle Busch has two laps to maintain a lead and his streak for winning one truck race in each of the last 8 seasons (this weekend is the end of the NASCAR season)

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 09:59 PM (hO9ad)

663 Baker's Union: Collapse of Hostess a sign of strong union.

I shit you not.

http://tinyurl.com/d3kty38

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:59 PM (piMMO)

664 Allahpoundirt should have headlined this story with "I've Come to This".

Posted by: ontherocks at November 16, 2012 10:00 PM (aZ6ew)

665 Many of those "Jesus voters" that Meggie and many others want to purge are also on the lower end of the income scale.

Without social values from anyone to vote on, or social values shared by black evangelicals or Catholic Hispanics, wouldn't they decide to line up for some Free Shit too?

Until the late 70s, the GOP was just what Meggie and others want now. A cadre of socially liberal and well off caucasians.

They damn near went extinct then

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 10:00 PM (wwsoB)

666 659
I have no idea what you could possibly mean, me being a good girl and all.

Also what did you do to be subjected to Glee?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (Gk3SS)



I don't know, but I'm really sorry. On the upside, Kate Hudson is guest starring and OH....MY....GAAAAWWWWD.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:00 PM (GEICT)

667 A well-adjusted populace also produces vastly superior art, music, and literature that explore subjects other than sex.

The problem of course is that the state is not qualified to make someone be well adjusted. The community can, but the state just tends to get in the way of the little platoons that could make a difference.

We'd need a lot fewer laws if we could just beat peoples asses and run them out of town like the old days.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:00 PM (QupBk)

668 "Her father is a Senator?"

Be thankful they're not in Massachusetts. She'd already have a house seat for that.

Posted by: Sir Charles Napier at November 16, 2012 10:01 PM (pkkxZ)

669 663
Baker's Union: Collapse of Hostess a sign of strong union.

I shit you not.

http://tinyurl.com/d3kty38



Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:59 PM

In other news, the lack of points scored by the NY Jets is a sign of a strong offense

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 10:02 PM (wwsoB)

670 Be careful! You must not attack any blacks around here or you will be shunned and told to go back to lurking.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at November 16, 2012 09:28 PM (V70Uh)


Attacking a person who is black and has fucked up is fine. Implying that the entire "black experience" is poverty and stupidity and calling a person poor and stupid because she's black and told you to STFU is entirely something else again.

Oh and don't pretend as if you didn't use racist words for blacks and Latinos, using asterisks.

Now, stop whining.

Posted by: baldilocks via iPad at November 16, 2012 10:02 PM (Su0W2)

671
Once upon a time, many of them were Democrats, especially in the Deep South

Hell, Democrats are as much against same-sex marriage as Republicans. It's just that the vast majority of them will always vote Democrat for, basically, racist reasons, so they can be safely ignored.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2012 10:02 PM (xSegX)

672 As someone said, it's almost like your fat, annoying girlfriend threatening to leave. "No, no, don't. Really."

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2012 10:02 PM (Iyg03)

673 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (piMMO)


The balls on that guy!

If only the Republican Party actively sought out and supported people like Col West, what a difference that might make. Nah, he would never pass the Karl Rove test of being subservient to the "needs" of the party.

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:02 PM (Cnqmv)

674 then they are still denied the right to civil contracts to protect the old and the young persons within the family group

I dispute this in it's entirety.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:03 PM (QupBk)

675
661
What is most disturbing about the same-sex marriage
argument is how it assumes the worship of the state. There is no
"banning" of marriage going on. It is just that the state will not issue
a license for every arrangement under the sun.


Posted by: AmishDude
_____
Great points. I should have just waited for you to chime in...instead of spewing my earlier post.

How the f*ck did you build a computer from wood? You Amish really are incredible craftsman.....and the ethernet chip? Without Silicon? Amazing.

and on that note....I'm signing off.

Posted by: John Stark Dark at November 16, 2012 10:03 PM (PALjS)

676 When Israel goes in, they don't fuck around.

Whatev, where are you seeing coverage?

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 10:03 PM (hO9ad)

677 656
True, but irrelevant to his query. IMHO, the state does have an interest in a well-adjusted populace. There's less crime, they (used to) make more money, which means a higher standard of living (not to mention more taxes paid). A well-adjusted populace also produces vastly superior art, music, and literature that explore subjects other than sex. Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (lOmbq)


And where pray tell would you draw the line? Who defines the greater good? Who measures it? Who Who decides? Your priest or minister? A government panel of religious leaders? This sort of dogooderism is what our constitution was designed to prevent.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:04 PM (jts1f)

678 "I believe if Roe vs. Wade were repealed, abortion would still go on."

Repealing a Supreme Court decision? No, that's not how it works, sweety.

Posted by: Rich at November 16, 2012 10:04 PM (arczc)

679 The Democrats don't have a problem with big tent coalition stuff. Most Republicans don't have a problem with big tent ideology.

The only people I see that have a problem in a big tent are the squishy liberal Republicans who are embarrassed by their church going brethren at their swanky parties in liberal hubs like New York and DC.

MM doesn't want to have to defend her party to other liberal ladies when the opposite should be true. Oh well, the Democrats seem to keep this crop of liberal Republicans on their heels perpetually and that is something MM should be embarrassed about.


Posted by: Larry Flynt at November 16, 2012 10:04 PM (iuY0Y)

680 Fuck meghan mccain, worthless bitch.
Serious question, how much were these hostess people making? I have tried to find out, but noone seems to know? Thanks

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:05 PM (adaoe)

681 We'd need a lot fewer laws if we could just beat peoples asses and run them out of town like the old days.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:00 PM (QupBk)

Clearly you don't live in Alaska.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 10:05 PM (VLG62)

682 Tcn

Nice try. You actually succeeded with someone that still has the ability to reason, but try to make that argument to a college student and all you'll hear is a mob screaming "Hater! Homophobe! Bigot!"

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (0PiQ4)

683 My God, but Allen West is a warrior.Despite numerous attempts to shut him down, the latest being the denial of request by a judge earlier today, West refused to give up and now the St. Lucie Elections Board has relented and will recount all early votes.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:57 PM (piMMO)


Good for him. I've seen democrats fight and fight and fight, it's about time Republicans did too.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (lxc0s)

684 Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:58 PM (jts1f)

the underlying question is; where do we draw the line?

Or is any line do be drawn? Boy/girl, boy/boy, girl/girl, young/old, old/young, same species/ other species, 1/1, 1/2, 2/2, 2/3, ad infinitum.

It is not unreasonable to suspect that once gay marriage is made a legal right then how can we argue against polygamy, polyandry, Man/boy, man,girl, woman/girl, woman/boy etc.?

This IS a slippery slope but we're already on it. We might as well just open the gates and let it all happen rather than fight tooth and nail for every step down we take. The lawyers are the only ones being rewarded here.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (SP4jC)

685 Clearly you don't live in Alaska.

Alas, no. I live in redneck Alabama and even here, the populous has become pussified. I honestly can't remember the last time some shitheel had his house burned down. Maybe 25 years ago.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (QupBk)

686 Bart, although you do seem to be the gift that keeps on giving


....what nobody wants, yeah lurking, good one.


or strangling on your own spit.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 16, 2012 10:08 PM (aZ6ew)

687 "Second look at Meghan McCain?"

I hope to God that you are kidding (or at least drunk). Otherwise, Ace, you've jumped the shark.

Posted by: RoadRunner at November 16, 2012 10:08 PM (A19NC)

688 It makes much more sense when you consider how important being on the A-list for the really good NYC and DC dinner parties when you and all the other trust fund babies that never did any real work can get together and discuss how superior you are to the Joe Sixpacks that (used) to put in 9 to 5 jobs, before you and your commie friends cratered the economy.

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:08 PM (Cnqmv)

689 This sort of dogooderism is what our constitution was designed to prevent.



Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:04 PM (jts1f)

I would hardly call thousands of years of accumulated wisdom to be just dogooderism. This is the issue with progressives in general--they believe they are soooo much smarter than anyone over the age of, say, 30. Until they are 30, and then the age is 40.

The nuclear family is an economic unit designed for the procreation of children and the formation of said kids into a peace-keeping and law-abiding economic unit of the future. THAT is the only interest of the state, and until teh gheys can demonstrate that they can provide the same service, they are out in the cold as far as governmental support. Nothing to do with sex, or rights, or any other damned thing. Just the wisdom of the ages showing us the right way to do things for the common good.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 10:10 PM (VLG62)

690 674 then they are still denied the right to civil contracts to protect the old and the young persons within the family group

I dispute this in it's entirety. Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:03 PM (QupBk)


I dispute your dispute in its entirety. Are you seriously claiming there are no legal impediments for a family trying to practice polygamy or any other form of marriage beside one man one woman?

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:10 PM (jts1f)

691 I'll bet Megs has ass dimples that could serve as a beer cozy while you plow her.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:10 PM (QupBk)

692
Good night, we're still on Meghan (so to speak)? Time for a fresh thread.


Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:11 PM (DoZD+)

693 Alas, no. I live in redneck Alabama and even here,
the populous has become pussified. I honestly can't remember the last
time some shitheel had his house burned down. Maybe 25 years ago.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (QupBk)

Google McCarthy, AK. Some good stories about how the local populace took care of bidness. I have other stories, not so well published.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 10:11 PM (VLG62)

694 average 17 and hour. That's probably for those with seniority.

keep on googling and you'll find it. I've seen the numbers and not just here.

Light went off; Creedence Clearwater Revival:

Keep on Choogling == http://tinyurl.com/bvs6nqg 7 minutes.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:11 PM (SP4jC)

695
Nonetheless, it is none of my business, or yours, how other people choose to live their lives.

I agree. However, in the current cultural environment, anything other than glowing approval and wholehearted acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle is automatically denigrated, screamed at and called "homophobic." Just because I don't care for rutabaga, and I don't partake of it, this does not, under any normal definition of the word, make me unnaturally afraid of rutabaga.

I do not want my grandkids exposed to this. At. All. What others do in their bedroom is indeed their business. Unfortunately for society, they will not keep it there.

Children should be as sexually innocent as possible for as long as possible. There's plenty of time when they're closer to adulthood to learn about sex.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 10:12 PM (lOmbq)

696 The hell of it is: I agree completely with the rotund retard that what a woman does with her own body is none of my business.

It's that pesky little baby inside her...you know, the other life, that I am concerned with.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:12 PM (GsoHv)

697 RINO's who threaten to leave the party are like those idiots who threaten to leave the U.S. if a Republican wins the prezzy. They. never. do. Much to the disappointment of the rest of us. Leave, Meggy. We really do not care.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (DoZD+)

698 I am surprised this stupid bitch isn't under observation in a sanatarium today....what with the shutdown of Hostess and the end of her food stable the Twinkie...John McCain...the fucking gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (ovpNn)

699 "There is no reason to listen to her on this subject, any more than we should listen to a guy wearing a "DOOM" sign in a major metropolitan city claiming the lizard people are going to eat us.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk"
**********************************************
Yesssss. Our plan isssss working. They sssssussspect nothing.

Posted by: Gordak of the lizard people at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (VeHU0)

700 684 Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 09:58 PM (jts1f)

the underlying question is; where do we draw the line? Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (SP4jC)


That one is easy. You draw the line at involving children. Only legal adults may enter in a marriage (or civil union or choose the term of you prefer).

As for the children of these families, you apply the same laws to protect children as in traditional families. Christian monogamy is no protection for children, the number of dysfunctional to downright criminal families of that type is depressingly large.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (jts1f)

701 Well, Meaghan, maybe you should go join the other side. We know you aren't batting for the other team, but you might as well go bat for the other party. If you find anarcho-communists, Israel haters, and other such pond scum to be better company, then by all means, please go. We don't want you. Personally, I agree with you regarding social issues versus the economy, but if you weren't a moron, maybe you would recall that it was the media scum that continually brought up questions about abortion and other such stupidity. It was the Obama campaign that brought the social issues into the campaign - not Romney. True, Romney allowed the Obambi campaign to get him off message, but that isnt' the same as RUNNING on social issues. Meaghan, please leave the party. If you do, the average I.Q. will raise considerably. You are, my dear, quite dumb.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (8Nq99)

702 Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:05 PM (adaoe)

Fucking is probably the only worthwhile thing McCain does!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:14 PM (GsoHv)

703 Are you seriously claiming there are no legal impediments for a family trying to practice polygamy or any other form of marriage beside one man one woman?

Polygamy I'll have to ponder. Homosex unions though no. No legal impediments. All manner of common property and power of attorney contract are easily and cheaply drawn up and universally recognized.

The polygamy is a puzzler because it's really so common now. Men fathering children by many women is so common now that I'll have to take a minute to think about it.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:14 PM (QupBk)

704 "Children should be as sexually innocent as possible
for as long as possible. There's plenty of time when they're closer to
adulthood to learn about sex."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 10:12 PM (lOmbq)

What an awful indictment of our culture (or lack thereof) that you even have to articulate this thought. It used to be axiomatic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:15 PM (GsoHv)

705 As for the children of these families, you apply the
same laws to protect children as in traditional families. Christian
monogamy is no protection for children, the number of dysfunctional to
downright criminal families of that type is depressingly large.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (jts1f)

NO protection? You cannot possibly be serious. Read up on the stories of kids raised by two gay dads. The things these kids are exposed to would make your hair stand on end.
People are people, and flawed. That does not automatically mean we open the floodgates and drown the kids.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 10:16 PM (VLG62)

706 ..oh, and one more thing...the main reason why feminism sucks is that it has its philosophical roots in communist thought. If you didn't not know that, they please go read some Simone de Bouvier or something. Feminism is not about equality for women; it's about Marxist ideals.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at November 16, 2012 10:16 PM (8Nq99)

707 Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:10 PM (jts1f)

It is a reasonable claim, backed up by a huge amount of evidence.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:16 PM (GsoHv)

708 Posted by: Darth Randall at November 16, 2012 10:07 PM (lxc0s)

I have to hand it to the Progs in that they are positively Churchillian in their pursuit of their goals. They'll fight you on the ballot, in every court in the land, with endless slightly modified appeals, call in the UN, cite "international" law, smear any who speak against them, use the useful idiots in the media, and in general NEVER give up!


We conservatives, on the other hand, seem to say, "Well that's the way they are and let it go.". This time, maybe, just maybe, we won't let this go.


OK Lucy, you're really going to hold the football for me this time, right?

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:17 PM (Cnqmv)

709 "...the main reason why feminism sucks..."

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at November 16, 2012 10:16 PM (8Nq99)

Most of them are ugly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:18 PM (GsoHv)

710 704 "Children should be as sexually innocent as possible
for as long as possible. There's plenty of time when they're closer to
adulthood to learn about sex."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 10:12 PM (lOmbq)

What an awful indictment of our culture (or lack thereof) that you even have to articulate this thought. It used to be axiomatic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:15 PM (GsoHv)




The innocence of children is dead. My 5 yr old got a lesson in theft today. Someone swiped her new jacket.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:18 PM (GEICT)

711 709 "...the main reason why feminism sucks..."

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at November 16, 2012 10:16 PM (8Nq99)

Most of them are ugly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:18 PM (GsoHv)




And bitchy.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:20 PM (GEICT)

712 700 comments on a Meggy Mac thread?

Bring on the ONT.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:20 PM (piMMO)

713 Is it being seriously contended that having children grow up in a household with two fathers or two mothers is worse than having children grow up in a household with one mother and one virtual parent, the virtual parent being the government?

In case you hadn't noticed, that latter arrangement is the fastest growing type of household in the country. For some ethnic groups, the clear majority of their children are now raised in such.

Frankly, I'd much rather have same-sex couples raising children and paying the bills for those children, and not inculcating the kids in the "cradle" part of cradle to grave socialism.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 16, 2012 10:20 PM (ymG7s)

714 @673

Now there's something we could talk about. This whole "party comes first" crap. Dems have completely sold out to it, and Republicans are also doing it. Didn't our nation's father have something to say about political parties? Didn't the federalist papers mention the prevention of "factions" pretty explicitly?

Maybe part of the problem in America is that it's too easy for people to say "he's a Dem, therefore he's a communist stooge" (even though he probably is, hehe), just as its too easy to say "he's a Rep, therefore he hates poor people"?

We don't think about the issues anymore, and parties have made it 10 times easier not to. It also makes it 10 times easier for the media to politically devastate an entire 50% of people in this country.

Back on topic... screw Meghan McCain. She wants to follow her lady parts out the door, I'll hold it for her. The door. Not her lady parts. Wouldn't touch those with a 10 foot pole. Too many other people probably have.


Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 16, 2012 10:20 PM (LN5eJ)

715 http:// www.alaskadispatch.com /article /cabin-living- grid-frigid-alaska-labor-love

for those who are looking for a life off the grid.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 10:21 PM (VLG62)

716 >>Someone swiped her new jacket.

Posted by: BCochran1981
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Teach her young, call it redistribution of wealth.

Posted by: sTevo at November 16, 2012 10:21 PM (VMcEw)

717
..oh, and one more thing...the main reason why feminism sucks is that it has its philosophical roots in communist thought.





This is why I believe Obama will ultimately fail/be killed. Communism and Islam CANNOT coexist.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:21 PM (DoZD+)

718 <em> 173
Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 07:40 PM (hO9ad)



More Like BIG DEBBIE EATS DALLAS</em>

God, I can see it now:

MEGGIE (putting down knife and fork): "Oh, when you said 'Eat me,' I thought you meant, you know..."

Posted by: RoadRunner at November 16, 2012 10:21 PM (A19NC)

719 Baker's Union: Collapse of Hostess a sign of strong union.

I shit you not.

http://tinyurl.com/d3kty38

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 09:59 PM

If that's what they think, I'm cool with that.

Let them keep going down that road.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 16, 2012 10:21 PM (ou/rY)

720 "My 5 yr old got a lesson in theft today. Someone swiped her new jacket."

Rats. Not fun, but perhaps not a total loss. Make it a teachable moment.


Posted by: torquewrench at November 16, 2012 10:22 PM (ymG7s)

721 Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:13 PM (jts1f)

Easy huh?

What right have you or the government to interfere with the relationship between one person and another?

Just because they're younger, doesn't mean they have less rights than other people. As long as they are not being held against there will then you or the government have no right to interfere?

Also the younger person isn't the only one hurt by the government's interference as the more mature individual can provide stability, financial assistance and support for someone who may not be able to form relationships with their contemporaries.

It's not so f'ing easy.

It always comes down to the mores of the larger group and you are saying that they opinions of them shouldn't be allowed to interfere because . . . .

There will always be a similar argument for some other combination. don't fool yourself into thinking you've got the right to break down barriers and then YOU get to say stop. Once barriers are broken, it just makes them easier to be broken again.

under your premise, the state and popular opinion have no say in where the lines are drawn only the people involved. I used the same arguments used for other relationships yet now you claim there's a line that can't be crossed.

Why can my line be crossed but yours can't?

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:22 PM (SP4jC)

722
@ 710

I hope you explained to her that it was fairness and all............


Posted by: Molly k. at November 16, 2012 10:23 PM (boaYm)

723 Frankly, I'd much rather have same-sex couples
raising children and paying the bills for those children, and not
inculcating the kids in the "cradle" part of cradle to grave socialism.



Posted by: torquewrench at November 16, 2012 10:20 PM (ymG7s)

That is not the argument at all. What is being argued is that the economic unit made up by traditional marriage is in the interest of the government and the unit made up by a gay couple simply does not fit that bill. The same can be said of the one parent family--not filling the needs of the children or of society.

Posted by: tcn at November 16, 2012 10:23 PM (VLG62)

724 I'd like to note that accepting the LiB philosophy also applies to the government sanctioning of marriage. I have resisted 'getting the government out of marriage' because of the tax breaks for families. I thought they were important to the country. But with my new desire to let it roast, I'm more amenable to letting it go in favor of the slight more consistent view of marriage as a purely religious institution.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:23 PM (QupBk)

725 I wonder if we could get an evening open thread. It could even be content free. I wouldn't tell anyone.

Testing -

Posted by: In Cognito at November 16, 2012 10:23 PM (PNi9V)

726 Oh she learned. "Daddy, someone at school took my jacket. They're a thief!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:23 PM (GEICT)

727 Someone want to tell my why I should care what this fat cow thinks?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 16, 2012 10:24 PM (OWjjx)

728 This is the issue with progressives in general--they believe they are soooo much smarter than anyone over the age of, say, 30. Until they are 30, and then the age is 40.

I am not even remotely progressive. I would not choose to live one of these alternative lifestyles. I am very happily married husband of one woman and father of four children, I am just opposed to other people telling me how I should choose to live my life.

Moreover, I do not believe that something that is thousands of years old is automatically good. I believe that any pattern that provides of the protection of children and the infirm in a loving environment is the business of nobody else. I will even stipulate that the classic nuclear family is the most efficient overall method to achieve that goal. I will not stipulate that anybody has the right to impose their biases on me, especially those who use dogma backed with an ad hominem argument.

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:24 PM (jts1f)

729 694 average 17 and hour. That's probably for those with seniority.keep on googling and you'll find it. I've seen the numbers and not just here.Light went off; Creedence Clearwater Revival:Keep on Choogling == http://tinyurl.com/bvs6nqg 7 minutes.
Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:11 PM (SP4jC)

Well, thats not bad when you count in the benefits. Lot better then unemployed right about now.
I worked on an assembly line, was hard work. But we got holidays off, sick pay, vacation and benefits.
And lets be real, these people were unskilled workers given a chance to make decent money considering the skill needed for that job, which, lets face it,no skill needed, trained on the job.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:24 PM (adaoe)

730 Hey it worked. I know 3 of those little faces now.
Baby steps.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 16, 2012 10:25 PM (PNi9V)

731 I think you can count the number of times that I have agreed with this bimbo on one hand. However, I do agree with her. But that doesn't mean that those of us who are true conservatives should turn the party over to idiots like her. She backed her father after all.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at November 16, 2012 10:25 PM (Eq2MX)

732
To quote the great Homer Simpson :
"No fat chix"

Posted by: ggm at November 16, 2012 10:26 PM (ie0t/)

733 She backed her father after all.

I don't fault her for that. However, the fact that her father has not come out and told Meggie mac to shut the hell up is beyond me.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 16, 2012 10:27 PM (OWjjx)

734 To quote the great Homer Simpson :
"No fat chix"


****

Wasn't that Al Bundy?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:27 PM (piMMO)

735 731 I think you can count the number of times that I have agreed with this bimbo on one hand. However, I do agree with her. But that doesn't mean that those of us who are true conservatives should turn the party over to idiots like her. She backed her father after all.
Posted by: georgeofthedesert at November 16, 2012 10:25 PM (Eq2MX)

Haha, I bet she voted obama!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:28 PM (adaoe)

736
The innocence of children is dead. My 5 yr old got a lesson in theft today. Someone swiped her new jacket.




I had to teach the facts of life to my oldest when she was 8, thanks to another little girl at school who was telling stuffon the playground. I had been hoping to hold that off a few years.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:28 PM (DoZD+)

737
There will always be a similar argument for some other combination. don't fool yourself into thinking you've got the right to break down barriers and then YOU get to say stop.
This is so true.
You can argue SSM and bring up polygamy and some people will dismiss it. "Oh, that's not going to happen," they say. "Why?"
Well they sputter but basically say that it can't happen because they don't want it to happen or they can't conceive of it.
At least Grumpy is honest and a lot of SSM supporters would turn around if they thought that SSM would lead to polygamy.
Which is why marriage should not be declared by dimbulb judges (I repeat myself) to be a "right."

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2012 10:28 PM (xSegX)

738 Someone throw a cat picture up top and just call this the ONT.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:29 PM (QupBk)

739 Well since you are all bored and pretty much hostages here.................I was gonna spill my guts just to take up space. I do have to look first to see if the ONT is up. History has said everytime I post on a thread a new one goes up

Posted by: Molly k. at November 16, 2012 10:30 PM (boaYm)

740 my stance on same-sex marriage:

*acknowledge that gender is an important factor in raising kids and allow minor preferences for straight couples/do not force Catholic Charities to adopt to gay couples
*acknowledge that there are some people, however few, who are either bisexual/are not "born that way" and fully normalizing homosexuality does not serve them well (AKA there's a middle ground between rejection and total normalization)
*none of this Parent 1 Parent 2/putting same-sex couples on birth certificates stuff.

none of this is really possible with same-sex marriage. I'll admit sometimes I have wondered whether a stable equilibrium between rejection/total acceptance can really last, which I guess we'll see in the future.

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 10:31 PM (8HhF2)

741 Yeah, umm on that "innocence of children" thing, our state mandates sex education in public schools starting in 4th grade. In 4th grade the boys AND girls learned all about how boys have erections and wet dreams. And in 5th grade it is a law that the kids are taught about HIV, condoms, and dental dams. So, yeah, uh you can imagine the questions that follow from those lessons.

But, if you keep your child out of the lessons you and the kid are stigmatized for it.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:32 PM (RZ8pf)

742 Which is why marriage should not be declared by dimbulb judges (I repeat myself) to be a "right."

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2012 10:28 PM (xSegX)

And the very fact that the populace has allowed the judiciary ruling class to continue its ever expanding role is another indication of how detached from reality we as citizens have become.

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:32 PM (Cnqmv)

743 "Communism and Islam CANNOT coexist."

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:21 PM (DoZD+)

Sublimating personal desire for the good of the tribe/government/people?

They get along all too well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:32 PM (GsoHv)

744 Damn Ace

You meanie. Close this one down. MM does not deserve a thread this long. Give us something new to expand our brains talking about.

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 10:32 PM (0PiQ4)

745 No more MeggieMac?



Crushed, it is that I am. Crushed, I tells ya.



Evening roonz and roonettez! Kitteh?



http://tinyurl.com/boqzzcx

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (yh0zB)

746 When Israel goes in, they don't fuck around.

Whatev, where are you seeing coverage?
Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 10:03 PM (hO9ad)
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FOX said as early as tonight, but its 5AM in Israel, and I doubt they will begin the offensive during the day. If it happens "tonight" it will probably begin about noon tomorrow EST. It's still speculation though.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (2t6Gz)

747 Meghan McCain annoys me quite a bit. Much like most people who are in their know-it-all phase of their 20's annoy me.

However, she's not wrong. The right-wing fringe people have hijacked the Republican Party. We used to be about rugged individualism, personal liberty, personal responsibility. Why Republicans allowed our party to become one of forcing religious ideas to dictate what OTHER people should be doing with their lives and how they should be living... a party that allows a man to actually talk about "legitimate rape"... This is the party that had the first black man run for President. The party that nominated the first woman to the Supreme Court.

Except now, the party is nothing more than an out of touch joke. You've alienated way too many people. Voters.

We will never be in power again if this party is ruled by the fringe and keeps pushing these social issues that insist on dictating how other people should live. Sounds a lot like a Nanny State for personal lives, doesn't it? Doesn't just apply to seatbelt laws and the size of your soda.

You are beyond wrong to just dismiss what she said because of who she is. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Posted by: Kristine at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (MUBKd)

748 Hey, anyone make a Twinkie joke yet?

Posted by: Killface at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (dr0xf)

749 Moogan porn
Humpback Mountain
Life of PIE
Jurassic Pork
Silence of the Hams
I Lost A Bet
Turner and Hoochie
Big....x10
Porkin' Porky's
Die Hard-on
Don't Say Anything to Anyone
Do the Ugly Thing
Whiskey for My Men, Beer for the Horse Face

Posted by: Hard Right at November 16, 2012 10:34 PM (VeHU0)

750 If only these were brains!!11!!
( . Y . )

Posted by: meeeeghan mccain at November 16, 2012 10:34 PM (nkiQM)

751 If only mine were brains!
( . Y . )

Posted by: david frump at November 16, 2012 10:35 PM (nkiQM)

752 728 -

Listen, not everything that has been in place for thousands of years is automatically good. But it does automatically work. Sorry, but single parent families don't work quite as well, as our inner cities can show you (not a knock on any single parents out there, it's just a damn hard thing to do, raising a child alone). Same sex "families" can't work at all, until women can make sperm or men can grow eggs.

If this was a case of say 60% straight and 40% gay, I'd be with you. I'm not a big fan of government imposing its views on people. However, laws are nothing if not expressions of people's social views, at their core. We base our laws on Judeo-Christian ideas of morality. In fact, our society does not work without the honoring of said morals and ethics. Don't think for 10 seconds that the breakdown in society isn't due entirely to the fact that many people can't be trusted to conduct their daily business with some degree of honor and integrity.

Now, the latest research I saw indicated that 3.4% of the population was gay. So, in essence, you're telling me that the law has to allow for the whims of 3.4% of people, to the offense of the other 96.6%. Sorry, it just shouldn't work that way. And prior to the 1960s and the beatification of the minority, it never did.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 16, 2012 10:35 PM (LN5eJ)

753 Posted by: Kristine at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (MUBKd)

Hi jimiray

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:35 PM (adaoe)

754 OK Grumpy, try this one on for size (someone may have brought this up already), guys banging guys is sick, disgusting, unnatural, unhealthy (which increases health care costs for society, directly and indirectly) and did I say unnatural.
Anyone who thinks the moral break down of a society has nothing to do with the demise of that society is incredibly ignorant of history.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 16, 2012 10:35 PM (BfZ1r)

755 The right-wing fringe people have hijacked the Republican Party.

Posted by: Kristine at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (MUBKd)

How many times did your mom drop you on your head?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:35 PM (GsoHv)

756 724
I'd like to note that accepting the LiB philosophy also applies to the
government sanctioning of marriage. I have resisted 'getting the
government out of marriage' because of the tax breaks for families. I
thought they were important to the country. But with my new desire to
let it roast, I'm more amenable to letting it go in favor of the slight
more consistent view of marriage as a purely religious institution.


Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:23 PM (QupBk)

I came to the same conclusion a while ago. I roll my eyes whenever someone bleats the phrase, "get the government out of marriage!" What the blatherer really means is, "change and/or expand the definition by which the government sanctions marriage!" which is the exact OPPOSITE of "getting the government out of marriage." Since the nuclear family is considered so passe these days, I'm in support of completely removing government from the equation starting with no joint returns. While I'm at it, I'd also like to see elimination of exemptions for home ownership and children.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (9SwFX)

757 738 Someone throw a cat picture up top and just call this the ONT.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:29 PM (QupBk)




Will this kitty work?


Sorta NSFW

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (GEICT)

758 Well, I have given this the time I have for but I have to sign off for a while but I wanted to share a closing argument for all those replies that I seem to have sparked.

The issue/line really is easy.
1. Protect the children. This is what families and societies and their laws are for.
2. Protect freedom for the maximum number of people who wish to live their lives without causing harm to others.
3. Religious sensibilities of other people are NOT relevant in argument about freedom.
4. Academic studies by pointy headed professors or government bureaucrats are no argument against liberty.
5. Dogooders are the reason why patriots must keep their powder dry. The greatest evils all start with the people who claim to have the best intentions.

Constant Vigilance!

Posted by: Grumpy the Younger at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (jts1f)

759 Thoughts on hunting the elusive North American hoofed rat:



Tree stands are a long ways up, and fat guys have a hard time getting in them.



Getting into a tree stand while it is light is easier than getting out of one in the dark.



Being all the way up in the air like that is f'n cold.



Squirrels are everywhere.



The proper caliber for whitetail seems to be F-150. I saw more (one to be exact) deer on my way home.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (yh0zB)

760 Why Republicans allowed our party to become one of forcing religious ideas to dictate what OTHER people should be doing with their lives and how they should be living...

I laughed out loud that we harsh your mellow.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (QupBk)

761 They would've had a 20 some percent decrease in pay and benefits (don't know what benefits) over the contract (5 years I think) so they would've lost 3.40 over 5 years is 65 cents or so a year.

they wouldn't take it. Even after the Teamsters said their accountants said they can't do any better an offer.

What screwed them was a voice vote instead of a secret ballot.

Ever been in a union meeting? if even 20% is really militant about a topic, it's tough standing up to them. Especially since everyone else is so scared of crossing some of these guys. You have to work with the guys in your local. They can make your work day hell and get you fired or written up and fined. So 90% said "Strike".

Teamsters. the f'n TEAMSTERS said to hold a secret vote and not to strike. the said FU to the teamsters and now it's all gone.

Reminds me of what happened to steel in this country in the early '80's. The steel making went over seas. The only thing done here is forming, cutting and shaping and a few specialty alloy mills. No more $20 hr union jobs (equiv today of about $40) and overtime. With ridiculous work rules. Knew a guy ran a crane. Actual work (hah work sitting in a crane all day) time was about 3 hrs a day. Rest of the time he sat in the crane. couldn't make him do anything else. Needless to say he wasn't happy when USS shut down the Gary, IN mills and Indiana Harbor etc.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (SP4jC)

762 We will never be in power again if this party is ruled by the fringe and keeps pushing these social issues that insist on dictating how other people should live. Sounds a lot like a Nanny State for personal lives, doesn't it?

You concerned, Bro?

Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (O6q63)

763 @Kristine,

you are full of shit, also incredibly myopic and stupid.

Are you blonde with big boobs?



Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (EZl54)

764 They get along all too well.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:32 PM (GsoHv)

For a time, when each of them thinks it is their agenda that is being advanced they march together. But it seems to me that the Marxists, while ideologically driven, still retain some semblance of rational thought. True islamic jihadists have only ideology and a desire for the end state to arrive post haste. So,eventually, there will be a falling out (a divergence of destinies) and it will not be pretty!

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (Cnqmv)

765 3. Religious sensibilities of other people are NOT relevant in argument about freedom.

Except religious freedom, well, and representative democracy. But otherwise, yeah.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (QupBk)

766 No idea why that link didn't post.



http://tinyurl.com/c7eccaa

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (GEICT)

767 "Bad News: Meghan McCain Wants To See Some Changes In the GOP, Or She's Going to Stop Being a Republican"

Is that a promise?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 16, 2012 10:38 PM (KL49F)

768 good old baldilocks,

Keep telling me to STFU.

Yeah. That's right.

You jumped to so many erroneous conclusions.

Good night.

Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at November 16, 2012 10:38 PM (V70Uh)

769 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (yh0zB)

My butcher hunts every week. He has hit a string of bad luck that is unbelievable.

Doesn't see anything for four hours; climbs down, walks to his truck and is almost run over by a ten pointer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:38 PM (GsoHv)

770 Hey, anyone make a Twinkie joke yet?


Posted by: Killface at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (dr0xf)


Here's a f'n Twinkie joke for you. They are for sale on Ebay right now, singles for 5 grand and a box for $200,000 USD. How's that for a f'n joke, my house is worth less than a BOX OF FUCKING TWINKIES????

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2012 10:39 PM (yh0zB)

771 The proper caliber for whitetail seems to be F-150.

Heh

Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2012 10:40 PM (O6q63)

772 Srsly, no ONT? I'm sure it's been addressed, so hey, fuck meggy mac and fuck that evil, crapulous pos that the tiny-brained put into power last Tuesday. And fuck holder and, dammit, I am so crankypants right now. I hope Bibi rains the wrath of God down on the pos's friends. This is just beyond the pale.

So, how y'all doin' tonight?

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:41 PM (kpCLl)

773 sorry you had a bad day Peaches

Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2012 10:41 PM (d/5qf)

774 Not having MM in the republican party has as big an impact as going to war without an accordion.

Posted by: Berserker at November 16, 2012 10:41 PM (FMbng)

775 I have to work on one of my cars tomorrow. The oil pressure idiot light came on. I don't really think it's low oil pressure but rather a problem with the sensor, since the engine isn't making any noise out of the ordinary.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 16, 2012 10:41 PM (QupBk)

776 Don't let the door hit your fat ass on the way out, Meggie.

Posted by: disa at November 16, 2012 10:42 PM (Zfbfs)

777 Twinkie joke? You mean besides the idiots listing Twinkies on ebay for $100 a box?

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 10:42 PM (2t6Gz)

778 Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:37 PM (Cnqmv)

Good. Let it happen with a nice exchange of theater nuclear weapons.

But seriously, I disagree that the end games are mutually exclusive, and that marxists are rational.

But I'll discuss it over a beer sometime. It's an academic question, and one I hope we never have to ask.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:42 PM (GsoHv)

779 Howdy, Peaches!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 10:43 PM (lOmbq)

780 Walmart stands up to, files charge against UFCW

http://tinyurl.com/bsb9wzw

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:43 PM (piMMO)

781 Ace


Are you drunk?
Are you having sex?

I can't think of any other excusable reasons for you leaving a MM thread up this long. . . Except you are watching Skyfall and writing up the movie review.

Posted by: just L at November 16, 2012 10:43 PM (0PiQ4)

782 besides the idiots listing Twinkies on ebay for $100 a box?

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 10:42 PM (2t6Gz)


$100? That's a bargain!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2012 10:43 PM (yh0zB)

783 I ordered from Papa John's tonight and just got a call from the store saying "due to abnormally high sales volumes this evening we are short on delivery drivers so your order is delayed getting out to you" I just laughed and said "OK"

I guess one thing Republicans can do well is support businesses with "buy-cotts"

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (RZ8pf)

784
"fuck meggy mac and fuck that evil, crapulous pos that the tiny-brained put into power last Tuesday. And fuck holder and, dammit, I am so crankypants right now. I hope Bibi rains the wrath of God down on the pos's friends. This is just beyond the pale."

I'm right there with you, Peaches.

Posted by: disa at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (Zfbfs)

785 Well this is tons of fun....Usually I am curled in a ball by this time of night. But for fun I stayed up and imbibed. For this I get Meggie Mac. Drat. I had a good pumpkin spice cake recipe, a good tip for scrubbing around toilets and for a finale the Molly k guide tokeeping your spouse hungry and most likely still hungry.

Posted by: Molly k. at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (boaYm)

786 769 My butcher hunts every week. He has hit a string of bad luck that is unbelievable.

Doesn't see anything for four hours; climbs down, walks to his truck and is almost run over by a ten pointer.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:38 PM (GsoHv)



A friend of the family has an unreal story. Over the course of several years, always hunting the same area, he kept getting glances at a massive buck, but could never even get a shot off. Last day of the season, near the end of the day, the buck walks right out about 100 yards from him. He's stunned, reaches for his gun....and falls out of the fuckin stand. Compound fracture of his leg. Deer is just staring at him like "You're a fuckin idiot." then takes off. He then had to drag himself a good long way back to camp.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (GEICT)

787 Let's be honest....McCain would be loads of fun in the sack. Just bring a ball gag and it would a nice evening.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (GsoHv)

788
Toby, you checked your oil level too, I assume?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (lOmbq)

789
Not having MM in the republican party has as big an impact as going to war without an accordion.

If she didn't keep threatening to leave, she wouldn't have anything to write about.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2012 10:45 PM (xSegX)

790 He's using the example of Allahpundit to get them stats up.

1000 comment post about trust fund fat gurl.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:45 PM (SP4jC)

791 Speaking of Skyfall, here's the latest "Half in the Bag" review:

http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag-skyfall/

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 16, 2012 10:45 PM (9SwFX)

792 Blog owners can be trolls too.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:45 PM (SP4jC)

793 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 16, 2012 10:36 PM (yh0zB)

The deer are pretty well into the rut right now...wool is your friend.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 10:45 PM (tkYsu)

794 Here's a f'n Twinkie joke for you. They are for sale on Ebay right now,
singles for 5 grand and a box for $200,000 USD. How's that for a f'n
joke, my house is worth less than a BOX OF FUCKING TWINKIES????


****

I purchased 26 Zingers and assorted others for less than $1 a pack at CVS tonight.

Do those folks think they've purchased THE LAST FUCKING TWINKIES ON EARTH?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:46 PM (piMMO)

795 This always works: I post on a dying thread, and it dies immediately.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 10:46 PM (S+/pH)

796 Reminds me of the time the DC madaam was going to post her list on the internet at a certain time. Knowing that the server was going to get hammered, I was there at the specified time and downloaded the list. Created a google ad, and sold the list for $50 via PayPal. Made $600 while her server was crashed.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 10:46 PM (2t6Gz)

797 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (GEICT)

I laughed out loud.

The deer is probably telling the same story on BuckNet, or whatever blog they read.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:46 PM (GsoHv)

798 I guess one thing Republicans can do well is support businesses with "buy-cotts"

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (RZ8pf)
That's nice, PGiS. Make sure Buddy gets some, eh? I ordered chicken vesuvia from Mama's up the street. Waitin' on it now. So glad this week is over.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:46 PM (kpCLl)

799 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (GEICT)
A harness is also your friend.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (tkYsu)

800 Screw you, Berserker!

Posted by: The 255th Fighting Accordionists at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (nkiQM)

801 Aww, shucks. Didn't work this time.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (S+/pH)

802 Isn't seeing cthulhu a d100 insanity penalty?

We are the Moron Horde. The light from positive sanity isn't due here for at least another 200 years.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (x8wJs)

803 "Do those folks think they've purchased THE LAST FUCKING TWINKIES ON EARTH?"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:46 PM (piMMO)

They have...for the next six months or so.

Then Kraft or General Mills will start cranking out about 10,000,000/day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (GsoHv)

804 BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:44 PM (GEICT)

I'd sell all my stuff (not the guns or ammo) then get a cross bow and a car battery with a 1,000,000 cp light.

JACK!!!!

POW!!

*sneaks away*

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (SP4jC)

805 Buddy doesn't get pizza, only on his birthday when we made him a hamburger pizza with hot dogs for topping and crushed up cheese hearts.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:48 PM (RZ8pf)

806 oh im sick of hearing about john mccain...

yeah i give the guy credit, but lets stop it already.

ive met vietnam war grunts whove seen some pretty horrific shit over there. for example, one former marine told me about how NOBODY in his unit would be taken prisoner...

"shit, aint no marine i know who would lay down arms and go to some hole. if we lose our guns we went to the hands, fuck that and fuck them."

i once read a story where the marines at khe sahn left dead viet cong hung up in the barbed wire as a 'warning' to any other VC or NVA....thats pretty bad ass in my book.

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 16, 2012 10:48 PM (nVqtU)

807 The deer are pretty well into the rut right now...wool is your friend.

They are drawn to something with an (herbivorous) animal scent?

Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2012 10:48 PM (O6q63)

808 is this thing on?

testing

testing

testing

testing 1 2 3

so, fuck meghan mccain

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (Z9EHQ)

809 Buddy doesn't get pizza, only on his birthday when we made him a
hamburger pizza with hot dogs for topping and crushed up cheese hearts.

That is the sweetest thing ever, PGiS!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (kpCLl)

810 This 700 + comment thread has been filled with porn, hate and sexual innuendo...

Yet the little Marxist Axeltrolls come into the thread extreme religious activity .

Libtards are utterly myopic. Orthodox evangelical atheists are the worst of the breed.

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (EZl54)

811 PGiS, I've always been curious, how did you turn out so well? Both my kids live in Seattle, and I know your family is libtarded, so...

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (S+/pH)

812 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:42 PM (GsoHv)

A beer would be nice, but I think that although the end games might seem identical (total control and subservience of the individual to the State and/or islam), the difference between the State and the islam is immense! As I write this, though I thought of the Caliphate and might have to reconsider my position since the nature of the "Caliphate" and the "State" are very very similar.

Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (Cnqmv)

813 I bought my Twinkies and Ding Dongs at the beginning of the week when the writing was on the wall. Now I wish I'd bought two boxes of Twinkies and profited greatly by dealing Twinkies on street corners.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (RZ8pf)

814 Here's a f'n Twinkie joke for you. They are for sale on Ebay right now,
singles for 5 grand and a box for $200,000 USD. How's that for a f'n
joke, my house is worth less than a BOX OF FUCKING TWINKIES????


If it makes you feel any better, no one is ever going to pay that much. There will be a gazillion twinkies 'in the pipeline' (and don't forget that they last forever unless eaten), and someone's alreay experessed interest in buying the name and recipe.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (hO9ad)

815
I'd sell all my stuff (not the guns or ammo) then get a cross bow and a car battery with a 1,000,000 cp light.

JACK!!!!

POW!!

*sneaks away*
Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (SP4jC)



Spotlight hunting is illegal in most places I believe. And I've talked to bow hunters, tracking a bleeding deer a mile or two doesn't sound like fun. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (GEICT)

816 They have...for the next six months or so.

Then Kraft or General Mills will start cranking out about 10,000,000/day.


****

When I purchased mine tonight, I left plenty behind on the shelves behind me.

Perhaps they might want to hold up a bit on the hard sell.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (piMMO)

817
This Thread?
It's white = going to Hell

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (Md8Uo)

818 Please tell me "Buddy" is your dog, PGiS!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2012 10:50 PM (nkiQM)

819 I like that my right click menu says "RELOAD" instead of refresh.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:50 PM (SP4jC)

820 The deer are pretty well into the rut right now...wool is your friend.

They are drawn to something with an (herbivorous) animal scent?
Posted by: fluffy at November 16, 2012 10:48 PM (O6q63)

deer are drawn to anything right now. my neighbor came home from hunting this afternoon, no buck but he is walking funny. refuses to talk about it either.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:50 PM (Z9EHQ)

821 Don't feel bad @801. I've been trying for 1/2 an hour to make that work. Isn't gonna.. What sucks is I had so much to say that was on target and life altering.,

Posted by: Molly k. at November 16, 2012 10:50 PM (boaYm)

822
OK, 'rons 'n 'ettes. It's bedtime for Bonzo once more.

Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at November 16, 2012 10:50 PM (lOmbq)

823 Bye bye Meggie. Don't let the door hit you in the ass...

Posted by: Moana at November 16, 2012 10:51 PM (r+yB8)

824 Hey, Kalneva! Hey, Y5! Hey, all y'all! BTW, they still had a pile of twinkies and (my personal fave) sno-balls at the AM-PM last night. I did not buy any. Bad peaches, no sno-ball!

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:51 PM (kpCLl)

825 Kalneva, well I was born in Texas and raised in Colorado so I am not a WA native. My ex-husband and his friends converted me to conservatism back in 1998. But, irony of ironies my ex-husband is now crazy liberal.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:51 PM (RZ8pf)

826 755 The right-wing fringe people have hijacked the Republican Party. Posted by: Kristine at November 16, 2012 10:33 PM (MUBKd)

Well heres a fucking thought, first time in any election the communist party backed a presidential candidate. Hellooooo

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:51 PM (adaoe)

827 porn, hate and sexual innuendo...

it's how we roll . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:51 PM (kpCLl)

828 I'd sell all my stuff (not the guns or ammo) then get a cross bow and a car battery with a 1,000,000 cp light.

JACK!!!!

POW!!

*sneaks away*
Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (SP4jC)

it is all lumens these days. no one uses candlepower.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (Z9EHQ)

829 >>my neighbor came home from hunting this afternoon, no buck but he is walking funny. refuses to talk about it either.

He doesn't come here for the hunting.

Posted by: a Bear at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (tkYsu)

830 it's comforting to know that when we all plunge over the fiscal cliff and into economic oblivion, we'll still be able to have a successful barter economy based on gold, bullets and Twinkies

Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (d/5qf)

831
Then Kraft or General Mills will start cranking out about 10,000,000/day.

I can't wait until people start lamenting the "old" Twinkies and how they just don't taste the same.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (xSegX)

832 Bye bye Meggie. Don't let the door hit you in the ass...
---
She's used to the door hitting her in the ass due to the amount of time it takes for that ass to clear the doorway.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (2t6Gz)

833 @827


but, religious extremist!

Kristine and Meggie said so.




Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (EZl54)

834 Posted by: Hrothgar - L.I.B or SMOD for the Children at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (Cnqmv)

The ultimate goal of communism is the withering of the state, but that of course could never happen. That is the big difference. Islam will never wither, because it defines the individual.

Many of the Arab despots from the 1960s and 1970s cloaked themselves in Socialism. Qaddafi and Nasser come to mind.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:53 PM (GsoHv)

835 porn, hate and sexual innuendo...




Pretty much the Horde's wheelhouse.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 10:53 PM (GEICT)

836 yes, buddy is our dog, a beagle. andycanuck I thought you knew that?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:53 PM (RZ8pf)

837 porn, hate and sexual innuendo...

it's how we roll . . .
Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:51 PM (kpCLl)

PEACHES!

porn, hate and sexual innuendo - isn't that repetitive? I guess I never dated anyone here.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:53 PM (Z9EHQ)

838 813 I bought my Twinkies and Ding Dongs at the beginning of the week when the writing was on the wall. Now I wish I'd bought two boxes of Twinkies and profited greatly by dealing Twinkies on street corners.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:49 PM (RZ8pf)

Little Debbie's are good.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:53 PM (adaoe)

839 porn, hate and sexual innuendo..."


---wait til ace gets mad and starts hollering at us lol

now THATS fun

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 16, 2012 10:53 PM (nVqtU)

840 Oh, forgot. Best line of the day:

Too many Generals are taking orders from their privates.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (kpCLl)

841 Little Debbie's are good.


*****

Banana Twins and Swiss Rolls are great.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (piMMO)

842 There's a giant 8 behind my house right now.
He's beenlocked up with a hot doe for the last couple days. That oor thing is taking it harder and more often than Sandy Fluke.

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (tkYsu)

843 Molly, me too! Oh, well, I guess my wise pontificating will be lost again! Gotta go and watch TV with hubby, in payment for his procuring the dinner tonight, for a welcome change. Long week.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (S+/pH)

844 "Why Republicans allowed our party to become one of forcing religious ideas to dictate what OTHER people should be doing with their lives and how they should be living... "

Get back to us when you have an original thought that doesn't involve a ridiculous strawman.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (6JU6C)

845 Let's say we tell the socons tough shit, we're going to worship teh gheys, abortions for everyone, shut religion out of public life ..

Will teh gheys switch to the GOP in large numbers? Will Hispanics? Blacks? Hipster youths?

My bet would be that every "safe" red state would be in play, Alabama and Oklahoma would become swing states

Like them or not, they are there and if not the majority, there are large numbers of them.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (wwsoB)

846 I have a feeling that the trolls who are concerned about the religious extremists aren't talking about the Muslims.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (DoZD+)

847 yes. I know it's illegal.

it wouldn't be about sport or the excitement of the hunt.


IT WOULD BE ABOUT REVENGE.

they're not as stupid as they act sometimes. They do whacked out shit ON PURPOSE. Just to f with your mind.

Squirrels are real good at this. Better than cats at f'ing with your head.

Why do you think they've become a stereotype? they're nuckin futz, that's why.

deer are like in the brush going tee hee over the mighty hunter trying to get them to show. It's a f'n game to them. they don't understand what they do but they know they're having fun.

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (SP4jC)

848 If anyone else but Peaches was using the phrase sno ball around here I would be sure it was not referring to a hostess treat.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

849 I thought you knew that?
Just pulling your tail, PGiS. ;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (nkiQM)

850 Can no one rid us of this troublesome fatass stupid RINO bitch?

Posted by: NC Ref at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (YfiNI)

851 Banana Twins and Swiss Rolls are great.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (piMMO)

Hubby loves the Swiss Rolls, and the Oatmeal Cookies,

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (adaoe)

852 deer are drawn to anything right now. my neighbor came home from hunting this afternoon, no buck but he is walking funny. refuses to talk about it either.

You're not really here to hunt, are you?

Posted by: bear what lives in the woods at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (O6q63)

853 Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 10:47 PM (SP4jC)


My dad told me a great story about a job interview he went on when he was younger.

The guy was a pompous asshole and was crowing about how wonderful a wing shot he was, and how expensive his shotguns were.

He asked my dad whether he hunts, and he answered, "Sure! I jack-light deer!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (GsoHv)

854 Like them or not, they are there and if not the majority, there are large numbers of them.

Too bad those fuckers didn't bother to vote last Tuesday.

They are dead to me.

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:56 PM (kpCLl)

855 I can't wait until people start lamenting the "old" Twinkies and how they just don't taste the same.



I miss the old Twinkies. The new ones just don't taste the same.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 16, 2012 10:56 PM (I2LwF)

856 "Sno Ball."

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

That's disgusting. Was she really?



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:56 PM (GsoHv)

857 @846
yeah, like the one shooting rockets. At Israel . Now.



Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 10:57 PM (EZl54)

858 Posted by: a Bear at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (tkYsu)

You've met him, too?

Posted by: bear in the woods at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (O6q63)

859 Really, no ONT? I may cancel my subscription . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (kpCLl)

860 i bet half of those whiney twinkie makers were wantin 15 an hour to bake a little cream filled cake.

i work at wal mart, i know the ridiculousness of what employees want to stock a shelf with beans....

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (nVqtU)

861 You're not really here to hunt, are you?
Posted by: bear what lives in the woods at November 16, 2012 10:55 PM (O6q63)

He did seem inappropriately dressed in glitter and assless chaps. but he was wearing blaze orange.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

862 "...aren't talking about the Muslims."

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (DoZD+)


Shhhhh....the Amish have spies everywhere!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (GsoHv)

863 Peaches! Hi! How are you doing? For reals, I want to know.

PGiS, WTF about your ex? How does that even happen? Was he a huge druggie or something?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (S+/pH)

864 Just a raw number total from Daily Job Cuts (without researching the %'s from some of the companies listed) puts the running total since 11.06.2012 @ 85,621* jobs lost.

*includes the 18,500 from Hostess today

Posted by: Jimmy at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (Kw5Iv)

865 well on the internet no one knows you are a dog! Woof.


When I read Garrett's "there's a giant 8 behind my house right now" I forgot that one of the topics was deer and had visions of a giant number 8 standing in the field behind his house as some sort of symbol or something. Like "8 effing years with SCOAMF"

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 16, 2012 10:58 PM (RZ8pf)

866 Raspberry Zingers going away, sad day in America, just my opinion

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 16, 2012 10:59 PM (adaoe)

867 Stupid autocorrect.

Megan McCain is truly an ugly Rhinoceros. And a poor excuse for a conservative.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 16, 2012 10:59 PM (YfiNI)

868 I hear obama is saddest about the whole demise of twinkes thing, he wanted to spend his retirement in a bakery filling twinkies.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

869 So....

Romancing the Stone or Dave's Old Porn?

I can't decide.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 11:00 PM (piMMO)

870 Y5, ewwwww.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 11:00 PM (S+/pH)

871
Know why we're pussies? This:

As former CIA Director David Petraeus revealed new discrepancies Friday in the administration's story over Libya, a dozen female House Democrats suggested Republicans' criticism of U.N. ambassador Susan Rice over her Libya comments is instead rooted in sexism and racism. "It is a shame that anytime something goes wrong, they pick on women and minorities," Rep. Marcia Fudge, D-Ohio, the next chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus, told reporters Friday at a Capitol Hill news conference.

A group representing more than one in five Democrats in Congress just made a blatant appeal to raw racial politics to shut off legitimate criticism of White House policy. And no one calls them on it. No one says a word. We shake our heads and let it pass. The CBC ismade up of nothing by liberal Todd Aikens and other gaffe machines. They play dirty. They made insane statements all the time. And we don't call them on it. You think moderate Dems would look good defending these assholes?

But we say nothing. We never make their non-CBC members defend these idiots. We just take it and move on. Pussies.

Posted by: CJ at November 16, 2012 11:00 PM (9G+G5)

872 768 good old baldilocks,

Keep telling me to STFU.

Yeah. That's right.

You jumped to so many erroneous conclusions.

Good night.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at November 16, 2012 10:38 PM (V70Uh)

I only told you that once.

As for that other thing, you brought the shit on yourself. Yeah we get it--you think all blacks are poor and stupid. Doesn't bother me. But let's not play the victim and pretend you were smacked for "criticizing" blacks.

You seem to look down on playing victim; so do I and so does most of the HQ. So sell it elsewhere.

Posted by: baldilocks via iPad at November 16, 2012 11:00 PM (Su0W2)

873 WHat?

I can't hear ya'll over all the BIBLE thumping up in heah!

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (EZl54)

874 How long do we accept the premises of the Left, or the unthinking like Megan McCain?

First the idea the State cannot intervene concerning life in the womb as a matter of privacy is a falsehood. The State has implicit power to overrule the desires of the individual for its own self-preservation. If it were not so, then no government could prosecute a war and order young men to battle. If the State has determined that life begins at conception (I do not know if that is decided yet) then the State CAN, and should intervene on behalf of the unborn.

Secondly to insist on Gay Marriage as a civil right is wrong simply because it is not a racial, or life and death imperative that gays should marry. First and foremost is the judgement of history, that unbridled homosexuality is disastrous for a society.

Then there are the modern studies of sexuality and role models. It is certain that to tamper with the sexual identity of human beings, especially when they are young is to unleash an untold number of sociopaths into society.

Of course not every homosexual is such, but do we need a living experiment writ-large of children raised in single sex homes? Wait for 30 years until we see the outcome, or just judge for yourself have you ever met a well-adjusted happy homosexual? They all have issues, don't you know?

Posted by: Jehu at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (cSD32)

875 Stupid autocorrect.

Megan McCain is truly an ugly Rhinoceros. And a poor excuse for a conservative.
Posted by: NC Ref at November 16, 2012 10:59 PM (YfiNI)

years ago I fired a girl who argued with her spell checker about how to spell the word library - she spoke and spelled the word "libary."

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (Z9EHQ)

876 he wanted to spend his retirement in a bakery filling twinkies.

don't think his Twinkie Filler has any supply IYKWIM

Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (d/5qf)

877
i bet half of those whiney twinkie makers were wantin 15 an hour to bake a little cream filled cake.


Oh, they had one of those whiney-ass muthafuckas on the radio today. His take-home (and he lives in the fuckin' ghetto) was $45,000 a year. They wanted him to take $42,000 and change. He was outraged. I hope his wife beats him senseless tonight. And, when she's done with his sorry ass, I hope the Teamsters drop by and finish the job. {spits}

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (kpCLl)

878 it is all lumens these days. no one uses candlepower.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 10:52 PM (Z9EHQ)

yeah what's up with that shiite. You use a unit of measure for 20-40 years and then some wet behind the ears pinhead says NO WE NEED A DIFFERENT UNIT NAME. And it's not easily convertible too. That's seems to be a requirement. No multiplying by a 1 or 2 digit number. OH NO, it's gotta be some 5 significant decimal place conversion number that you can't remember and have to f'n look up every time.

Roentgens rads cpm cpm curies, candles lumens, cycles hertz,
arrhhghghghghghghh!!!!

Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (SP4jC)

879 >>Dave's Old Porn?
Possible that Dave is featuring 'Romancing the Bone'?

Posted by: garrett at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (tkYsu)

880 So 800 plus posts for Meggie Mac. I'll bet liked"Prometheus".

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (lxc0s)

881 Good evening. It's 10 o'clock CST; do you know where your ONT is?

Posted by: The Nightly News at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (BAS5M)

882
I have been waitng for long time now....In the mean time I wrote myself some poetry and thought I'd share ( if this doesnt bring the ONT I don't know what will)

Roses are red, Violets are blue
My face is drooping and boobs are too.
Upside is my vagina belongs to barak
Too bad after 11/6 I'm still in shock.


Dang I had 3 more verses but I had to see if this really brought on the ONT

Posted by: Molly k. at November 16, 2012 11:02 PM (boaYm)

883 Too many Generals are taking orders from their privates.
Posted by: Peaches Excellent. Do we have any adults in charge of our institutions with any integrity? Any morals? Crap I get horny too but know when lines need to be drawn for my family, career, and self esteem.

Posted by: Cheri at November 16, 2012 11:02 PM (EAgmr)

884 845
Let's say we tell the socons tough shit, we're going to worship teh
gheys, abortions for everyone, shut religion out of public life ..

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 10:54 PM (wwsoB)

I listened to Boortz's post-election rant tonight and that was essentially his advice to the Republican party. Oh, and to support amnesty. He made no mention that the majority of the voting population wants free shit. Nope! The victory of the looter party is purely the fault of the stoopit socons and, without them, the looters would suddenly believe in self-reliance.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's solid gold diaphragm at November 16, 2012 11:02 PM (9SwFX)

885 Y5, ewwwww.
Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 11:00 PM (S+/pH)

I hope you did not google the phrase.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 11:02 PM (Z9EHQ)

886 That should read, I'll bet she liked "Prometheus". Found it deep and thoughtfull.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 16, 2012 11:03 PM (lxc0s)

887 I kinda liked Prometheus, actually
enjoyed the premise of how the aliens came into being
of course it did sorta ruin the initial storyline of the original Alien movie

Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2012 11:03 PM (d/5qf)

888 She puts the Twinkies in the basket. SHE PUTS THE TWINKIES IN THE BASKET!

Posted by: Max Entropy at November 16, 2012 11:03 PM (UNwR1)

889 Love shouldn't be illegal. Consent laws are too arbitrary. Who says a 10 year old can't enjoy a little assplay? You religious freaks.

Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at November 16, 2012 11:03 PM (53Nsb)

890 @878
Fertilizer should be measured in cubic obamas.

Posted by: T. Hunter - let it burn at November 16, 2012 11:03 PM (EZl54)

891 Dave's Old Porn?

Possible that Dave is featuring 'Romancing the Bone'?


****

heh.

Joe Rogan and Ginger Lynn are guests.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 11:04 PM (piMMO)

892 I bet someone is getting us boobehs AND kittehs, tonight!

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 11:04 PM (S+/pH)

893 "My bet would be that every "safe" red state would be in play, Alabama and Oklahoma would become swing states"

well there were a decent amount of Southern states that voted for Clinton and haven't voted Democratic since. people forget this. so yeah I could see something like this happening

although, i don't like talking so much about what's good politically, as opposed to just what we think is right. But that is worth pointing out, yeah

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 11:04 PM (8HhF2)

894 Fertilizer should be measured in cubic obamas.

but the quantity that constitutes a cubic obama is so vast, a suitable conversion factor has yet to be devised

Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2012 11:04 PM (d/5qf)

895 Do we have any adults in charge of our institutions with any integrity? Any morals? Crap I get horny too but know when lines need to be drawn for my family, career, and self esteem.
Posted by: Cheri at November 16, 2012 11:02 PM (EAgmr)
===============================
Go on......

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 16, 2012 11:05 PM (jucos)

896 Meghan McCain is a very reasonable young woman whose ideas will get no traction in the Republican mainstream because of the ageism and sexism inherent in a party run by old white men.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at November 16, 2012 11:05 PM (s1XiY)

897 Even if one agrees with some of her points her writing style is just really, really bad. My 7th grader writes about as well as she does and yet Meghan has a college degree from Columbia? Meghan uses "I" about as much as Obama does. It makes it very uninteresting to read. I understand Meghan has written at least one book? She must have needed a lot of editorial help.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 16, 2012 11:05 PM (dkGdP)

898 ONT Up, Sayonara, Meggie McBoobs!

Posted by: kbdabear at November 16, 2012 11:05 PM (wwsoB)

899 You seem to look down on playing victim; so do I and so does most of the HQ. So sell it elsewhere.

Posted by: baldilocks via iPad at November 16, 2012 11:00 PM (Su0W2)

I got your back, my friend. WTF is wrong with that guy?

Posted by: Peaches at November 16, 2012 11:05 PM (kpCLl)

900 What does Dave's Old Porn have in common with the presidency?
They're both full of Bushes.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2012 11:05 PM (nkiQM)

901 885' didn't have to. Learned it from "Clerks". An otherwise good movie.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 11:06 PM (S+/pH)

902 ONT in the hizzy

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 16, 2012 11:06 PM (piMMO)

903 Little Debbie, yes! Swiss rolls! Zebra cakes!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 16, 2012 11:06 PM (C8mVl)

904 892 I bet someone is getting us boobehs AND kittehs, tonight!
Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 11:04 PM (S+/pH)



Already did, earlier.



http://tinyurl.com/c7eccaa

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 16, 2012 11:07 PM (GEICT)

905 Good try. Molly k! That should do it!

Posted by: Kalneva at November 16, 2012 11:07 PM (S+/pH)

906 yeah what's up with that shiite. You use a unit of measure for 20-40 years and then some wet behind the ears pinhead says NO WE NEED A DIFFERENT UNIT NAME. And it's not easily convertible too. That's seems to be a requirement. No multiplying by a 1 or 2 digit number. OH NO, it's gotta be some 5 significant decimal place conversion number that you can't remember and have to f'n look up every time.

Roentgens rads cpm cpm curies, candles lumens, cycles hertz,
arrhhghghghghghghh!!!!
Posted by: AshKente at November 16, 2012 11:01 PM (SP4jC)

I became something of a flashlight snob in my recent experience in the dark week. It is sort of funny. Maybe a decade ago maglites where where it was at. Now of course it is all led lights running off of aa, aaa, or cr123s. It was funny in the night in the lobby to see a couple of guys my age show up swing the 3 or 4 d cell maglites wheezing and gasping a splotch of pale orange light on the floor and some guys with some 500 lumen pocket spotlight.

Maybe it is a guy thing. Sometimes you show up with the coolest gear on a trip and sometimes you show up with antiques. Everyone always knows who is who.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 16, 2012 11:08 PM (Z9EHQ)

907 For those whining we aren't attacking the substance of Moogan's brainless rant.
We had TWO, TWO candidates out of dozens for Congress who made ugly remarks. One had his funding cut off due to the foulness of what he said. The otherseemed to havemisspoke.
Our presidential candidate was more Scott Brown than Ronald Reagan. He even avoided the social issues like the plague. Our last4 presidential candidates were squishes, but the party has been hijacked by the far right?
Maybe I would listen to you Moogan if you weren't spewing dem talking points and admitted to yourself that YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT. Maybe I would listen to you if you were something other than an airheaded twit who is used by the left like a trained poodle to attack the GOP. You even said how funny you found Russel Brand, the guy who repeatedly insulted your father.
You are an ignorant and arrogant fool, just like your father.

Posted by: Hard Right at November 16, 2012 11:08 PM (VeHU0)

908 Jiminy Cricket! I go off to read practically a novel by Michael Mukasey in Commentary and come back and find everybody on this same thread?! Hats off.

Posted by: Right Wing Chick at November 16, 2012 11:08 PM (y2Ojs)

909 Christ, if I was a Catholic priest, you'd elect me Pope.

Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at November 16, 2012 11:09 PM (53Nsb)

910 884

the thing is that, while it's true the GOP's identification with the religious right does turn off some young voters obviously, these types of comments always just serve to confirm someone's preexisting biases. since Boortz is a hyper-libertarian it's nothing to him to suggest these things. If he, I dunno, acknowledged that a lot of Americans don't share his complete free-marketeer ideas either, that'd be more impressive, but he can't cuz his own views can't be unpopular of course.

me I'm willing to say I believe in certain things while acknowledging that some of my views might be unpopular and not worth harping on for a politician

Posted by: JDP at November 16, 2012 11:09 PM (8HhF2)

911 I kinda liked Prometheus, actuallyenjoyed the premise of how the aliens came into beingof course it did sorta ruin the initial storyline of the original Alien movie
Posted by: chemjeff at November 16, 2012 11:03 PM (d/5qf)


I thought the visuals were great, along with the acting. The story, not so much. As ACE said in his review yesterday, too many stupid people in it. I will add that I didn't care for the fact they made the engineers giant humans instead of another breed of alien. Spaights original script is an improvement over what they ended up with, but it was still mundane. But to each their own.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 16, 2012 11:10 PM (lxc0s)

912
Baldilocks - No one fucks with an 'ette. You are true, smart, and beautiful.
The horde does not take that lightly or stupid attacks.
Bart you've been warned more than once.
Care to throw down again? I assure you - you will not win.

Posted by: Cheri at November 16, 2012 11:10 PM (EAgmr)

913 "Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture
hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it. The populace hasn't
really changed it's just the populace votes now."
_____________________________

Anybody who considers this statement to be true hasn't read Charles Murray's Coming Apart.

His research presents a catalog of objective evidence that our culture is degrading in just about every measure of social health.

http://tinyurl.com/btcea7q

Posted by: Jim Flimsey at November 16, 2012 11:10 PM (T9V22)

914 Great Value brand Little Debbies sucks. I can say that from recent memory. On the upside, youd only be out a buck fifty to find out they suck.

Posted by: Whatev at November 16, 2012 11:11 PM (2t6Gz)

915 The culture hasn't changed? You mean Americans were always a bunch of flamboyantly gay, tattooed, whiny entitled brats?

Posted by: Doc Brown at November 16, 2012 11:17 PM (ZBjRZ)

916 "Conservatives love to blame culture for our current woes. The culture hasn't really changed, it's just we see more of it. The populace hasn't really changed it's just the populace votes now."

Anybody who considers this statement to be true hasn't read Charles Murray's Coming Apart. His research presents a catalog of objective evidence that our culture is degrading in just about every measure of social health.

This.


Posted by: CJ at November 16, 2012 11:17 PM (9G+G5)

917 "Maybe a decade ago maglites where where it was at"

You can get an LED bulb for the old D cell maglites. Brighter than fuck and the batteries last FOREVER.

Posted by: Sir Charles Napier at November 16, 2012 11:41 PM (pkkxZ)

918 I'd still hit it. But I think I'd have to be drunk.

Posted by: RJ at November 16, 2012 11:52 PM (5f8oG)

919 What a silly, chubby little girl. The MSM gives her airtime as a republican supposedly representing youth, knowing full well every time she opens her mouth and isn't eating she's making a fool of herself and hurting the very thingshepretends to love. Her father is a RINO who has been using his military service as a shield to protect him from being truly called out for what he is and Mom's a rich plastic enhanced heiress who wrecked McCains first marriage. Geezuz,talk about the coming from the shallow end of the gene pool.

Posted by: scr_north at November 16, 2012 11:58 PM (adSSf)

920 Meggie,
Just how many bull-whips do you have shoved up your ass Right Now?

She is mourning the Twinkies.
Cut her some slack...


Warren,
Why the fuck are you still here?

Posted by: ChrisP at November 17, 2012 12:09 AM (G+4K3)

921 I'll have the cum of sum yung guy and ding song on the side.

Posted by: Meagan McCain at November 17, 2012 12:11 AM (F22l6)

922 I wonder if she realizes she is the butt of many jokes? I think not.

I'm laughing at you, not with you Maggie dear.

Posted by: dogfish at November 17, 2012 12:37 AM (N2yhW)

923 41

what part of what she says here is wrong ? there are many voters who
were being swayed by romney's common sense fiscal policy but were still
scared away from voting republican since the party is perceived (and
regrettably, rightfully so) as being filled with folks who want to
impose their religious beliefs on everyone.
once upon a time...not
so long ago...the republicans were seen as the party of business. now,
we areseen asthe party of religious wingnuts. either we do something
about that, or we're in trouble. the scopes monkey trials are over and
we're never going back there again.

Posted by: el polacko at November 16, 2012 07:33 PM (H+1aM)

Hmm, reminds me of my parents fighting, when I was a kid. Mom was all quiet like at 1st, dad would blow his top get LOUD, then mom would play the martyr.
So as kids, we just *knew* dad started it. Always.
So we decided to tape them after getting a brand new tape recorder {this was the early 70's - a BFD} anyway, you guessed it, mom would passive-aggressive lure him into it.

Reminds me of this "Social issues" crap. R's have their views/values, and vote/legislate from that standpoint. Then election time rolls around, and the D's start screaming that the R's want to "take away" something they *can NOT* take away.

SSDD.
With the msm on the D's side, the R's could be a libertarians wet dream, and they'd STILL be called wingnuts, etc.

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at November 17, 2012 12:47 AM (uMfFZ)

924 @923:With the msm on the D's side, the R's could be a libertarians wet dream, and they'd STILL be called wingnuts, etc.
Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at November 17, 2012 12:47 AM (uMfFZ)
--
This!

SoCons and Libertarians need to realize that we're in a coalition against the Dems, and that means that neither of us will get what we want until the Democrat identity politics stranglehold on the media and the schools is broken.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 17, 2012 12:56 AM (Y5I9o)

925 94

Normally Meghan's writing gives me the shivvz. But I actually agree with her.
I'll
add one thing. I think it might help if we didn't come across as so "we
hate the environment". I'm skeptcial of MMGW - but so what? What is
wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about
the environment don't see us as crazy. We should have better solutions
and point out the left's foolish wasteful wasy, and say -"we will do it
better".


Posted by: Fresh at November 16, 2012 07:39 PM (O7ksG)

Not acquainted with the "Give them an inch, they will take a mile" concept, huh?
It's NEVER about the environment, it's ALWAYS about power.

In the 70's, I was all jazzed about a solar panel on every roof and cars that ran on h2o. I find it really difficult to believe the free market couldn't do in 40 years what the gov't says it can do in 4 years!!!

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at November 17, 2012 12:57 AM (uMfFZ)

926 Meg......STAY AWAY!!!!!

Posted by: Guam at November 17, 2012 01:28 AM (dmEoV)

927 I will believe that a few bad comments by socons hurt Romney in the election when the world condemns Bill Clinton for actually, you know, raping a woman.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 17, 2012 01:31 AM (71iUa)

928 You can agree with Meghan, while at the same hating her guts.

Posted by: Sexypig at November 17, 2012 01:34 AM (Y1yD+)

929 Akin's comments went to the top of the line on reddit, fark, facebook, and whatever else people read nowadays.

Damn straight that comment hurt Romney.

Probably got some disillusioned voters to believe that war on women stuff.

Akin used the words "legitimate rape", claimed something unscientific, and implied that women who got pregnant through a rape maybe weren't really raped-raped.

Sorry, but that hurt. So-con candidates need to be assigned a pastor from outside their area who will be able to tell them to withdraw from the race rather then keep believing "God wills me to keep running."

Its like a Roman triumph - they need the slave behind them saying "You are not a god"

Posted by: Sexypig at November 17, 2012 01:44 AM (Y1yD+)

930 I agree that Akin should've quit. But where's the condemnation for Bill Clinton biting a woman's lip, holding her down, and forcibly penetrating her vagina?

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 17, 2012 01:47 AM (71iUa)

931 I know she's a dimwit, but it is always a renewed surprise when I read something she said. The best part of Meghan was apparently left on a dirt floor in Hanoi.

Posted by: BruceTahoe at November 17, 2012 02:54 AM (apXFs)

932 She's right.

Except for the bit about illegal aliens that is. Fuck em.

Dead babies and butt pirates are irrelevant to me in the the face of a 20 trillion dollar public debt, an economy that is being run into the ground, and a nation of dole parasites whose ratio of the population will be far greater than 47 percent if the left gets their way.

Talk to me about "social issues" when things that actually matter have been dealt with. When I don't have to live in fear of my children and grandchildren growing up in an impoverished Marxist dystopia, then we can talk about these other things that some people have an overriding emotional attachment to. Till then, I consider those who harp about these irrelevancies to be nothing more than enablers of the left who can eat shit and die.

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at November 17, 2012 03:46 AM (waa/k)

933 Basically, the socons have to clam up completely, and the fiscons have to lie about their positions, and both have to hope that the MFM doesn't gin up another bullshit meme.

Sounds reasonable.

Posted by: Zombie Wilt Chamberlain at November 17, 2012 05:03 AM (yJYwC)

934 An old cliche but still appropriate for Meghan . . ."Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out".

Posted by: rplat at November 17, 2012 06:12 AM (ew94K)

935 931: Day-yammmm!!!!!

Posted by: Manolo at November 17, 2012 07:32 AM (PttbO)

936 I'll add one thing. I think it might help if we didn't come across as so "we hate the environment". I'm skeptcial of MMGW - but so what? What is wrong with clean energy or at least making sure voters who care about the environment don't see us as crazy.

What is wrong with "clean" energy is that it's destructively worthless bullshit. It's prohibitively expensive. It doesn't scale. And, in the case of the hideous malignant tumors known as windfarms, it rapes the land that ecotards so fervently claim to care about.

We have answers. They're called oil, natural gas, coal, and nuclear. Collectively, they arguably represent the greatest achievements in mankind's history in terms of elevating standards of living. Without them, we'd all be dead in a matter of weeks.

If you're not for them, you are, whether you want to admit it or not, anti-human.

Dirt worshipers can go fuck themselves. I'm not having my kids grow up in some third-world shithole packed into Judge Dredd-style megacities just because a bunch of crunchy douchebags are utterly illiterate about the cost-benefit tradeoffs of our energy options.

We probably have enough oil to last us several more centuries, and we should be sucking every drop of it out of the ground. The caribou can sign a petition to Congress if they don't like it.

We should have better solutions and point out the left's foolish wasteful wasy, and say -"we will do it better".

If we become the party of nothing more than promising to manage leftism better than the leftists, then put me firmly in the "let it burn" camp. Our answer to "clean" energy should be "no" and nothing more until said energy costs less to produce and distribute than what we've already got.

Posted by: VJay at November 17, 2012 07:45 AM (q5NFp)

937 The first Playboy I ever saw was purchased by my mom and it contained Shannon Tweed as the Bunny of the Year.IIRC she received a white fur coat and a Jaguar as part of her prize package.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your mom?!?

Posted by: KellyFromMesquite at November 17, 2012 09:07 AM (FLFli)

938 Can someone tell fatty McCain what Ronald Reagan's positions were on abortion and gay marriage? People are always crying about the Republicans going off the rails but Reagan's positions on social issues was not a bit different than the party today.

Posted by: Jack Burton at November 17, 2012 10:07 AM (L+4Fu)

939 And then Deep Sea Detectives so we can look for cthulhu! See, it's all happy.It's spelled Ch'ThuLu!!!! Don't make me angry! You won't like me angry!! I'll destroy you last!!!!!
signed
Grumpy, Sleepy Old One

Posted by: Ch'Thu'LuFromMesquite at November 17, 2012 10:10 AM (FLFli)

940 "83 Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!! "

Couch Snappers

Posted by: Cackfinger at November 17, 2012 12:06 PM (CCHli)

941 Lol, and you guys think that you loose the female vote only because womin are stupid and think with their vaginas too. GOP: The party for angry white jocks with guns. And girls if they are hot. And skinny.

//shakes his head//

Posted by: Fnord at November 17, 2012 12:54 PM (hoJnS)

942 Oh NO! If the republicans have lost Meghan McCain they have lost America!

Posted by: Yenober at November 17, 2012 01:38 PM (6bVkc)

943 Her pro climate change stance is troubling and I am surprised that she didn't mention that as an issue to surrender as well.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 17, 2012 01:42 PM (DBH1h)

944 So here what RINO's want - stop being conservative and roll over to democrat leftist ideas. There now I have saved million of trees from future idiotic articles like Meghan McCain just wrote.

Posted by: bobbymike at November 17, 2012 04:04 PM (wJSZn)

945
"Meghan McCain porn movie titles. And.... go!!!!
Stick Me With Your Punji Stick Daddy!

Posted by: baron zemo at November 17, 2012 06:47 PM (R0Tgs)

946 I am talking about passing laws designed to deny civil rights to a
specific demographic based on the prejudices of another demographic.
-
You're talking about Affirmative Action, right?

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 17, 2012 09:02 PM (vRIiW)

947 Will no one rid us of this troublesome twit?

Posted by: Henery II at November 18, 2012 12:21 PM (9kQXF)

948
Just curious.

Shouldn't There Be A Community For Men Who Like Oral Sex
1) A vastly superior employer has a much subordinated employee perform felacio unto him and it was thus labeled as being Ďnot a sex actí;

2) Instances of Herpes in teenagers then spiked in America;

3) Crushing skulls of outside the womb of instant born babies can be legally labeled as legal abortion;

4) Pulling tubes of purported Ďbrain deadí person for economic reasons is now deemed valid;

Isn't it time 2 git real - A girl's gott have fun - no?

Posted by: Qster5 at November 18, 2012 06:06 PM (15EZ7)

949 Git Ur Cunnilingus on boyeeeeeee

Posted by: Qster5 at November 18, 2012 06:10 PM (15EZ7)






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