Stocks Down Again; Europe Falls Into Recession

People like to make excuses for Obama -- they love doing that, and they've gotten good at it -- and one I'm very tired of the "Europe is in recession, so American can't crawl out of its own" excuse.

If America were leading the world economy, chugging along like a magnificent locomotive, we'd pull Europe out of recession, and everyone else besides.

But instead we have our hopes pinned on Europe to grow the world economy for us, so we can follow in its wake?

How about instead of "Obama can be excused for the poor American economy, because Europe is dragging us down" we say "Obama's failure to ignite the American economy, indeed, his determination to dampen it, is causing Europe and the world to fall into a global recession"?

Nah. Can't say that. Lightworker. Doin' his best.

Yet another day of declines, though prices didn't end as low as they were earlier. So expect a big fall tomorrow, as yet another tiny bubble of unfounded optimism gets burst.

And Europe is now officially in recession. And our own economy is so weak it'll most likely follow suit.

The euro zone debt crisis dragged the bloc into its second recession since 2009 in the third quarter despite modest growth in Germany and France, data showed on Thursday.

The French and German economies both managed 0.2 percent growth in the July-to-September period but their resilience could not save the 17-nation bloc from contraction as the likes of The Netherlands, Spain, Italy and Austria shrank.

Economic output in the euro zone fell 0.1 percent in the quarter, following a 0.2 percent drop in the second quarter.

Those two quarters of contraction put the euro zone's 9.4 trillion euro ($12 trillion) economy back into recession, although Italy and Spain have been contracting for a year already and Greece is suffering an outright depression.

Tampons are still legal though. We really dodged a bullet on that.

Posted by: Ace at 04:23 PM



Comments

1
they're blaming the austerity cuts

what cuts? they haven't cut anything; they've only talked about making cuts

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:25 PM (v8xyR)

2 TFG is just following the policies of Clinton and GWB by inflating an economic bubble.

Clinton - tech boom
Bush 43 - housing
Obama - THE BIRTH CONTROL BOOM

Posted by: The Q at November 15, 2012 04:26 PM (YpecZ)

3 The Israeli Air Force struck some 70 targets in the Gaza Strip in the past hour

Posted by: USA at November 15, 2012 04:27 PM (RIg+t)

4 Europe isn't 'in recession'; it's totally f*cked


there's a difference, you know........

Posted by: under the desk w/ Paula & Dave at November 15, 2012 04:27 PM (Dll6b)

5 Thank God we have a president who understands business and management. Just think if we'd elected a successful someone from the private sector, the mess we'd be in!

Posted by: MythicMeganBanger at November 15, 2012 04:27 PM (uEm7J)

6
wow that's a lotta fake dead babies

and fake dead wedding guests

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:27 PM (v8xyR)

7 Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp. Resisted for a couple weeks but one more dose of that jackass scoamf at the presser yesterday and I'm done. Backing away and watching her blow now...

Posted by: rukiddingme? at November 15, 2012 04:28 PM (MbeEN)

8 So the fear of cuts .... see the link to the cthulhu mythos was there all along.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:28 PM (qjHIb)

9 1
they're blaming the austerity cuts

what cuts? they haven't cut anything; they've only talked about making cuts

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:25 PM (v8xyR)


And that's a hell of a lot more austere than politicians in prior years we willing to be.

Posted by: red sweater at November 15, 2012 04:28 PM (CUi62)

10 Thank god for the tampon thing. They make a handy field dressing, surviving the global financial meltdown and resultant riots and anarchy would have been just hell without them. Thanks, Obama!

Posted by: West at November 15, 2012 04:28 PM (1Rgee)

11 The Israeli Air Force struck some 70 targets in the Gaza Strip in the past hour



More. Burn.

Posted by: Adam at November 15, 2012 04:28 PM (/YJYi)

12 No wait, the editors at the Washington Post say entitlements should be on the table. Obama can still save us from ourselves. He's got a "balanced approach" that's going to kick this next recession's ass.

Posted by: MWTexas at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (N05oL)

13 Where are my pills? I was promised pills. I want them delivered by a Unicorn. I'll accept nothing less.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (ndlFj)

14 Nonsense. MSNBC insists that the economy is BOOMING!

Posted by: Pyrocles at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (cv5Iw)

15 3, buy Raytheon early tomorrow.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (qjHIb)

16 It's not recession, it's "fun-cession"

Posted by: The Q at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (YpecZ)

17 The Israeli Air Force struck some 70 targets in the Gaza Strip in the past hour
Posted by: USA at November 15, 2012 04:27 PM (RIg+t)


Do I hear 80, 80 going once 80 going twice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (79ueO)

18
The only placewith real gdp growthin the EU is Estonia...hmm, I wonder why?

Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2012 04:29 PM (wsGWu)

19 yeah, those 'cuts' in Greece are "suggested" reductions in the rate of increase


They say they'll increase the retirement age from 65 to 67, but many occupations can still retire at 50 because they're "hazardous" --like hairdressers


through the Looking Glass....

Posted by: under the desk w/ Paula & Dave at November 15, 2012 04:30 PM (Dll6b)

20 Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp.

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I'd love to be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:30 PM (CyP2Z)

21
Strike ALL the targets!

Posted by: Memebot at November 15, 2012 04:30 PM (ggRof)

22 they're blaming the austerity cuts
what cuts? they haven't cut anything; they've only talked about making cuts
Posted by: soothsayer


Raising the idea of cuts is austere, you see. And racist. And bad for childrens and other living things.

Coexist. And gimme mah free shit, you Thuglican!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 04:30 PM (uoA/0)

23
Obama got a huge 1 point post-election victory bounce.

Translation: Obama is on a very short leash.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:31 PM (v8xyR)

24 I have my the marshmellows.

Posted by: SH at November 15, 2012 04:31 PM (gmeXX)

25 You can deny it all you want, but 1 + 1 really does equal 2, not 20.

And Compound Interest is a Stone Cold Bitch.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:31 PM (QupBk)

26 More. Burn.
Posted by: Adam at November 15, 2012 04:28 PM (/YJYi)

I suspect this is just a little house cleaning before IDF gets busy with its important work.

Posted by: USA at November 15, 2012 04:32 PM (RIg+t)

27 LIB

Posted by: Crashpanic at November 15, 2012 04:32 PM (fyk6Q)

28 So glad my husband's Obamabot 27 year-old niece and her boyfriend can get her tampons and contraception (and abortions! yay!) on the backs of the taxpayers because that's all that really matters.

When they're starving and dumpster diving they can thank themselves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 04:32 PM (UOM48)

29
Remember Glenn Frey's 80's song The Heat Is On?

Obama's gonna be feelin the heat, real soon.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:32 PM (v8xyR)

30 2012 = 1936.

Market will react the same.

Unfortunately, we can't repeat WWII to get us out of it since we have nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Interested Party at November 15, 2012 04:33 PM (m1NGX)

31 "I'd love to be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins."

You can't stop it, Farmer Joe. It is all going to burn, you see? Nothing we can do will prevent it. Romney *might* have given us more time. Maybe.

But it is going to burn. Personally, I think we should take everything we can before it is completely gone. Make it Burn.

Posted by: MrShad at November 15, 2012 04:33 PM (Xqfwb)

32 I have two daughters under the age of 10? What do they have to look forward to-an impoverished country with no future? Wonderful. The take away tampons/free birth control gang may unfortunately learn that things are a little tougher, in a roving gang beating, raping and robbing you kind of way, in the brave new world they are creating.

Posted by: ejo at November 15, 2012 04:33 PM (GXvSO)

33 As long as my gas tank is full I don't care!!!...just give me my money!

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (xcul0)

34 Im going to start photoshopping up some birth certificates for Bibi, should I go South Carolina or Texas? There is an old jewish community in Charleston, they're black - but that would explain why he is hung like Chaney.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (qjHIb)

35 You mean, America carry the world economy like it has for the last 80 years?

What the fuck is wrong with YOU!?!?!?!?!

Bad America.....BAD America.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (UK9cE)

36 Boooooosssshhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!111111!!!

Posted by: your retarded neoStalinist betters at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (EZl54)

37 What really kills me is that we had a chance, a small window of opportunity to change the coming crash, not into a boom (nothing is going to make that possible), but at least something less that the Great Depression/Global Conflict. We offered a seemingly honest and talented Businessman, coupled with an obviously clever numbers guy to the electorate and they said no, Hell No even.

LiFB.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (QupBk)

38
it's funny, Obama's approval rating is pretty much exactly his proportion of the vote tally, barely 51%

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (v8xyR)

39 When they're starving and dumpster diving they can thank themselves.

You mean there's not enough nutrition in birth control pills to sustain two adults? Who knew?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2012 04:34 PM (xKC/c)

40 Video of IDF targeting underground missle launchers. Secondary blast is, well, a blast.


http://tinyurl.com/annoskd

Posted by: USA at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (RIg+t)

41 As long as a single conservative exists somewhere in the world ... it'll be his fault.

Posted by: Warden at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (HzhBE)

42
I'm torn. I want to let it burn, but I have 4 kids 7 and under.
We already homeschool,but I've heard crazy rumors that kids need food.
Of course, let's be honest, it's going to burn regardless of what we do. Looks like I'll be buying Glenn Beck's food insurance.

Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (wsGWu)

43 Global recession/depression. Inflation. Declining standard of living. What happens next? We start looking for people to blame. Then someone emerges who articulates the blame laying.

Then there's a war.

This is where we're headed.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (CyP2Z)

44 I'm noticing a very curious phenomenon.

When I try to post story links to Facebook the tone of the links change.

Let me illustrate.

There is a story from CNBC that I am trying to post.

The body of the page contains the headline.

"Dow Posts 4-Day Decline; Apple Drops 2%"

I usually post stories to Facebook to try sway and tweak my more liberal friends.

But when I post the story to Facebook it morphs to the following.

"Stocks open flat after mixed economic data"


I
have been noticing this a lot lately where I see a story that could
drive a point home that when I post it the story is changed subtly or
substantially to change the tone and tenor of the story.

I am going to start looking at the source code of the web pages to see why facebook is linking it this way.

Because the body of the story I'm trying to post does not contain the muted parts that are being posted.

Very curious.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (RrD4h)

45 [ Muttley laugh ]

Posted by: logprof at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (jKE+Z)

46 sarcasm is racist

Posted by: Kevin at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (ApULL)

47 20
Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp.

I'd love to be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins.Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:30 PM (CyP2Z)

Valid. But does there EVER come a point where our screaming "Don't do it!!!" is a waste? Murray (D) just said she she's no reason to pass a budget. At SOME point you have to let the children have their way to FINALLY learn the lesson...don't you???

Posted by: rukiddingme? at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (MbeEN)

48 The only placewith real gdp growthin the EU is Estonia...hmm, I wonder why?

I never quite figured out why the fuck they wanted to join and have all the fruits of their labor sucked out and sent south.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, pre-denounced for your convenience at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (/kI1Q)

49 32...I hear the Saudis pay well for little girls so there's always that...

Posted by: the bright side at November 15, 2012 04:35 PM (xcul0)

50 Everybody start breaking plates!!!

Posted by: president o'bumbles drinking ouzo at November 15, 2012 04:36 PM (nkiQM)

51 I'm glad socialism works so well. Otherwise, we'd really be in a mess.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 15, 2012 04:36 PM (lTVJy)

52 The Israeli Air Force struck some 70 targets in the Gaza Strip in the past hour

I wonder if I should start investing in whatever company that makes bombs for the Israeli air force.

Posted by: EC at November 15, 2012 04:37 PM (GQ8sn)

53 Somebody here said before the election that stock prices were inflated due to Bernanke pumping fake money into the economy. They will keep falling in fits and starts until they reach the actual value no matter what Bernanke does from now on. The values held until the election in the expectation of a Romney win and some sanity returning to the market. That support has been pulled out from the market and off we go.

Posted by: Decaf at November 15, 2012 04:37 PM (iSAeP)

54 Is the market down because of Hurricane Sandy just like the unemployment is up?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:37 PM (1Jaio)

55 When the war happens, abortion, gay marriage and free cooter pills are going to be seen for the trivialities they really are.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:37 PM (HJsDx)

56

Tampons are double purpose, and can be used for cleaning ear wax with the blunt end, and flossing teeth with the string. This assumes it's new, but liberals are exempted from this rule.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (lDWQr)

57 It's almost as if that Nobel prize winning, Enron advising Krugman dude didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.

Almost.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (ccXZP)

58 God damn Bush! I thought we got rid of him already when Obama won his second term ??????

Posted by: Wall_E at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (48wze)

59 The Israeli Air Force struck some 70 targets in the Gaza Strip in the past hour


Hit 'em again in an hour or so. Just make a BOOM! to interrupt their sleep.

Posted by: fluffy at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (z9HTb)

60 So all of our hope is pinned on the actions of, say,Spain, Italy, Greece, and France? That is going to save us, save the American economy - olives,siestas, three hour lunches, and month-long summer vacations?

Well alrighty then.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - What a Relief at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (hLRSq)

61 "We offered a seemingly honest and talented Businessman, coupled with an
obviously clever numbers guy to the electorate and they said no, Hell No
even."

Exactly. Mitt was our best chance -- a great chance. Shouldn't have been close. That's why I think we're now totally screwed. The people have spoken, and if we ignore what they said, we're fools.

Posted by: Joey with the High IQ at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (zpqa2)

62 When the war happens, abortion, gay marriage and free cooter pills are going to be seen for the trivialities they really are.

Thanks to modern (nuclear) weaponry, it will be the most impacting 43 seconds in history.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (xKC/c)

63
I am going with we are already in a recession and once the real number come out we will see. Which led Europe into recession.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 15, 2012 04:38 PM (3BbLJ)

64 I liked my phrasing earlier, so I'm going to use it again: call it a recession or depression or whatever, but it's not really causing any real suffering. It's the Easy-Bake Oven recession.

People will change their attitudes when more people are dying in the streets, instead of just finding it hard to pay their cable tv bill.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 15, 2012 04:39 PM (TOk1P)

65 57

I will have none of your anti-reality nonsense sir, I am completely objective, everyone knows that if the stimulus had been 5X as big we'd be booming

Posted by: Paul Krugman at November 15, 2012 04:39 PM (60GaT)

66 Tampons are double purpose, and can be used for cleaning ear wax with the blunt end, and flossing teeth with the string.

How many teeth are you missing?

Posted by: HeatherRadish, pre-denounced for your convenience at November 15, 2012 04:39 PM (/kI1Q)

67 Tampons are still legal though. We really dodged a bullet on that.

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And our leaders will hire women the old fashioned way, by rewarding whoever will go on national tv and lie for them, instead of using icky binders. This should not be discounted.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 04:39 PM (K4AdI)

68 60, So all of our hope is pinned on the actions of, say,Spain, Italy, Greece, and France? That is going to save us, save the American economy - olives,siestas, three hour lunches, and month-long summer vacations?

*****
and some very excellant vino.

Posted by: IC at November 15, 2012 04:39 PM (a0IVu)

69 At least there is new peace in the Middle East. That's a start.

Posted by: eureka! LIBer at November 15, 2012 04:39 PM (UL+ny)

70 dammit got hit with the sock..damn this site

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (zpqa2)

71
Hit 'em again in an hour or so. Just make a BOOM! to interrupt their sleep

*********
Now, now. Let's not get crazy. Poor little Jihad might get hurt.

Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (wsGWu)

72 Unfortunately, we can't repeat WWII to get us out of it since we have nuclear weapons.

Once Iran also has nuclear weapons WWIII becomes a distinct possibility.

Posted by: Decaf at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (iSAeP)

73 Enough with this malarkey. It's time for some good old nation-building at home stimulus.

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (mqdAz)

74 How did we get out of the first depression? Oh I remember we had a "Large War". Nah, the Isreali thing is just a minor distraction............

Posted by: Wall_E at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (48wze)

75 Question;

Were all the layoffs announced since the retention of TFG last week due to the election, or due to agreements to postpone layoff announcements until after?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (wwsoB)

76 [Looks like I'll be buying Glenn Beck's food insurance.]

Please don't. It's over priced. As is the gold he hawks. And the workfromhome(dot)com thing he touts is nothing more than a fucking MLM pyramid scheme.

Glenn Beck is a scumbag. They all are. All anyone does is lie to you.

You want food storage? Hit Costco's website and type in Banquet King. You can get one month of freeze dried food for about $100.

Posted by: Warden at November 15, 2012 04:40 PM (HzhBE)

77 Great Depression 2.0

I think Ace needs to start a hobo survival post, so I know how to make raccoon fricasse using a pot and some roadkill

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (QxSug)

78 "Obama's failure to ignite the American economy, indeed, his
determination to dampen it, is causing Europe and the world to fall into
a global recession"

** **


LEAVE BARACK ALONE!!!!


*sob*

Posted by: Chrissy Whatshisfuck at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (z9HTb)

79 "Obama's failure to ignite the American economy, indeed, his
determination to dampen it, is causing Europe and the world to fall into
a global recession"?





Oh he ignited alright. He set it on fire and has been pouring gas on it ever since

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (1Jaio)

80 Unfortunately I'm seeing a chunk ofmy future retirement monies burn in the stock market fire but I've also made sure I have a fire insurance policy in my personal safe and safety deposit boxes to prop me up for a while if needed.

I just want the fuckers who caused this to feel the pain also.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (m2CN7)

81 30 2012 = 1936.

Market will react the same.

Unfortunately, we can't repeat WWII to get us out of it since we have nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Interested Party at November 15, 2012 04:33 PM (m1NGX)


I'm still goin' with ALIENS!!

Posted by: pAuL KrUgMaN at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (DvBku)

82 We Are All Greeks Now

Posted by: Gen. Peggy Joseph of the Free Shit Army at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (wwsoB)

83 And the bitches get free birth control, except for the $4trillion in administrative costs it takes to purchase $8 of pills.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:41 PM (QxSug)

84
Oh he ignited alright. He set it on fire and has been pouring gas on it ever since

He did "light the fire."

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (9+ccr)

85 3 The Israeli Air Force struck some 70 targets in the Gaza Strip in the past hour

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Didn't think there were that many worth hitting in Gaza.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (e0xKF)

86 As long as a single conservative exists somewhere in the world ... it'll be his fault.

And the media is here to keep reminding him of his station in life.

Posted by: Decaf at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (iSAeP)

87
pre-election AoS: wildly optimistic

post-election AoS: wildly pessimistic

I predict you'll miraculously find your equillibrium right at the same time UE rate ticks up to 9%.

♪ /whoa wo-wo wo-whoa, whoa wo-wo wo-whoa
/the heat is on

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (v8xyR)

88 Just remember:

Obama: world-class intellect, hapless victim of a world out of control
Bush: idiot, manipulator and determiner of all things

Posted by: Sockpuppet Czar at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (cow6D)

89 You can get one month of freeze dried food for about $100.

Don't forget to store some water, or that stuff's really gonna taste like shit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, pre-denounced for your convenience at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (/kI1Q)

90 Funemployment for everyone!

Posted by: Jaws at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (4I3Uo)

91 Unexpectedly !!!!

Posted by: CNBC at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (wwsoB)

92 Considering that the left/media/Democrats said that George Bush was an incompetent bungler it's amazing how much effect he still has on the economy and country as well

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (1Jaio)

93 **Unfortunately, we can't repeat WWII to get us out of it since we have nuclear weapons. **

This is a standard misconception of Great Depression 1.0. We exited Great Depression1.0 because FDR died. If he had lived, we'd still be eating K-rats

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (QxSug)

94 I am, with re-districting, a constituent of Jesse Jackson Jr. His voters reflect those who voted for Obama. Think we have a chance economically?

Posted by: ejo at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (GXvSO)

95 Thanks to modern (nuclear) weaponry, it will be the most impacting 43 seconds in history.

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I don't think it'll be nukes. Or at least not more than a couple of battlefield nukes. I think it'll be a long, protracted series of proxy wars, coupled with a lot of "civil unrest" at home. The civil unrest will get really ugly when there's no money to pay the troops (or when money has gotten so inflated that their pay is essentially worthless.)

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (HJsDx)

96 I'd like to hear it from European leaders. "You idiot! The American economy and defense treaties is the only thing that allows European socialism to have a prayer!"

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (FcR7P)

97 If France enacts that tax that's going to drive Nutella bankrupt, I say we just nuc Paris.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (NzBQO)

98 I wonder if I should start investing in whatever company that makes bombs for the Israeli air force.
Fisker?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (nkiQM)

99 Yeah well I'm not blaming teh gays for what's going on. So take that!

Posted by: Obama's stupid stump speech at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (60GaT)

100
Hit Costco's website and type in Banquet King. You can get one month of freeze dried food for about $100
*******
Thanks for the tip. I was joking about Glenn Beck, but not about the fact that we really do need to beef up our emergency supplies.

Posted by: Lauren at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (wsGWu)

101 #60:

Good point - we're gonna need a lot of that vino.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - What a Relief at November 15, 2012 04:43 PM (hLRSq)

102 At least teh gays can proudly walk into a store and buy a giant double dong. That was under threat in Romney's America. And the best part is it helps simulate the feeling we're all about to get from Obama's America.

Posted by: Beagle at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (sOtz/)

103 #68 - darn it, I can read!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - What a Relief at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (hLRSq)

104 Forget it, when we are done in Afghanistan, lets just pull are German bases and bring EVERYONE home, if Russia wants Europe they can have it.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (NzBQO)

105 Hit Costco's website and type in Banquet King. You can get one month of freeze dried food for about $100.


Chef's Banquet.

Posted by: Adam at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (/YJYi)

106 I buy my freezed dried food from Mountain House. I buy monthly and expect next month they will tell me that they are out of some items. Same as I expect when I go to buy my monthlyammo supplies. Damn Obama makessome items like a run on a bank.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (m2CN7)

107 HeatherRadish... Store water AND buy a Berkey water filter so you can filter rain/creek/pond water if you have to.

Posted by: Warden at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (HzhBE)

108 When a large part of Europe goes into a recession, they usually start another World War. That should be interesting.

Posted by: Roy at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (VndSC)

109
The only way out of this mess is to rasie taxes and high speed rail.

Posted by: Jerry Brown Resident Goof Ball at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (1PE/J)

110 104
Forget it, when we are done in Afghanistan, lets just pull are German
bases and bring EVERYONE home, if Russia wants Europe they can have it.

And put them on our borders....

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna let it burn really.really bummed at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (9+ccr)

111 NEW YORK (AP) -- Stock indexes closed lower Thursday, a third straight
decline, after U.S. retailers issued weak forecasts for earnings and
more people filed claims for unemployment benefits.

Stocks have fallen steadily since voters returned President Barack Obama
and a divided Congress to power. The Dow has lost 5 percent from
Election Day, Nov. 6.





Expect this story to get scrubbed ASAP.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (1Jaio)

112 We are Urop now.

Posted by: Truman North at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (I2LwF)

113 we don't need a war, we just need a republican to be popular enough to win an election against beloved, glorious democrats.

Apparently, in 1933, FDR purged military of generals just like now. He probably never dreamed Eisenhower would be popular in 20 years

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (QxSug)

114 How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep while our beds are burning

The time has come
To say fair's fair
To pay the rent, now
To pay our share

Posted by: Barrack at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (GX2fm)

115 pre-election AoS: wildly optimistic



post-election AoS: wildly pessimistic

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♪ Feelings, nothing more than feelings . . . .

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (Hx5uv)

116 Thanks, Adam.

Chef's Banquet. It's the cheapest calories per dollar freeze dried food I can find. Supplement w/dried beans for protein and some dried fruit as well.

Posted by: Warden at November 15, 2012 04:45 PM (HzhBE)

117 When a large part of Europe goes into a recession, they usually start another World War. That should be interesting.

Posted by: Roy at November 15, 2012 04:44 PM (VndSC)

If the Golden Dawn takes over in Greece this will become reality.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 04:46 PM (NzBQO)

118 >>>>Hit Costco's website and type in Banquet King. You can get one month of freeze dried food for about $100.
You can buy a crapload of Twinkies for $100. And they'll outlast the cockroaches after Armageddon.

Posted by: Roy at November 15, 2012 04:46 PM (VndSC)

119 Libturd: The stock market is only for rich people. People in the middle class don't have any exposure to the stock market.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:46 PM (1Jaio)

120 Costco...nice. Look at those survival rations.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:46 PM (QxSug)

121 I hate the thought of a total economic collapse, it scares the shit out of me... but like an alcoholic you cannot begin recovery until you have reached bottom ... and I'm afraid we are in a race to the bottom. As much as we would like to we cannot stop it

Posted by: ET at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (s72/N)

122
is it time to hit the mattresses?

Posted by: Don Soothi at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (v8xyR)

123 Seriously, guys. Don't just talk. Be ready. Food, water, firearms, ammunition, flashlights/laterns,and something to cook with if the power goes out.

That's the least everyone should do.

Posted by: Warden at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (HzhBE)

124 You can buy a crapload of Twinkies for $100. And they'll outlast the cockroaches after Armageddon.

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Buy 'em while you can. Looks like the baker's union is about to kill Hostess.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (e0xKF)

125 we don't need a war, we just need a republican to be popular enough to win an election against beloved, glorious democrats.
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I'm not saying we need one. I'm saying it's going to happen whether we want it to or not.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (CyP2Z)

126 121
I hate the thought of a total economic collapse, it scares the shit out
of me... but like an alcoholic you cannot begin recovery until you have
reached bottom ... and I'm afraid we are in a race to the bottom. As
much as we would like to we cannot stop it


Posted by: ET at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (s72/N)


Embrace the suck. Let. It. Burn. The soft libs will suffer worse.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 04:48 PM (UOM48)

127
As I've said before:

The Obama victory can be likened to the victory by Francois Hollande in France, the Socialist candidate

Hollande won against a backdrop of the European economy stagnating and France failing to enact harsh but necessary reforms. Hollande instead went in the other direction and doubled down on failing Francosocialism.

Result? The French economy is completely tanking. His popularity has fallen through the floor, and so has that of his party.

Learn the lesson contained herein. Obama is retracing the same trajectory. To the letter. If he can be made to own the failure of the economy next year, it will cripple the rest of his Presidency.

Obama doesn't like being held to account. He doesn't like to work. He doesn't like details. DRAG HIM DOWN INTO THE MIRE. Force him to get to grips with the circumstances. He will back off and retreat to the golf course.

The odds are excellent that Obama will leave office with the worst economic record of any modern President, ever. Eclipsing the previous records of Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Baines Bush.

People notice pocketbook issues.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 04:48 PM (ymG7s)

128 Stocks will be down again tomorrow. Europe is screwed, they started what TFG is continuing, it's only a matter of time before the Free Things People here are cut off because we can't afford it anymore and they'll riot just like they did in Greece and other countries.

O/T I just turned on television, Cavuto's next guest is Rick Perry.

Posted by: CarolT at November 15, 2012 04:48 PM (z4WKX)

129 So what if unemployment is skyrocketing and the market is crashing. The important thing is Mitt Romney was foiled from banning tampons

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (1Jaio)

130 Soon.

Posted by: Antichrist at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (zpqa2)

131 So, we'll know in 15 minutes whether to make a Twinkie run or not

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (piMMO)

132 I'll spell my name right this time

The time has come
To say fair's fair
To pay the rent
To pay our share
The time has come
A fact's a fact
It belongs to them
Let's give it back

Posted by: Barack at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (GX2fm)

133
oh I'm ready, alright

I'm not storing anything. I'm going renegade. The first people I'm going after are the anarchists. They'll be dialing 911 faster than you can say Noam Chomsky.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (v8xyR)

134 The only way out of this mess is to rasie taxes and high speed rail.
Posted by: Jerry Brown


LITERALLY! LITERALLY!

Posted by: Joey "20th Century Man"Biden at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (uoA/0)

135 Hit Costco's website and type in Banquet King.

Buy some food grade 5 gallon buckets with lids, fill with dried beans, or rice, or corn, or wheat, or all of the above, up close to the top. Put a chunk of dry ice on a square of aluminum foil on top of that and place the lid loosely on. Let the CO2 that sublimates off the DI settle and force the oxygen out then bang the lid down airtight. Don't tell anyone you have done this.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (QupBk)

136
is it time to hit the mattresses?





Posted by: Don Soothi at November 15, 2012 04:47 PM (v8xyR)

I'll call you Don Soothi when Don Corolone says it's time.

Posted by: Jako Brazi at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (lDWQr)

137 No problem Warden, just wanted it right if anyone else was interested. I've been trying to find affordable freeze dried food and am glad you posted that. I couldn't find King's Banquet but eventually found what you were talking about.

Posted by: Adam at November 15, 2012 04:50 PM (/YJYi)

138 If the Golden Dawn takes over in Greece this will become reality.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 04:46 PM (NzBQO)


Yeah, my whole punching people in the face and setting shit on fire comment earlier today was a reference to Golden Dawn.


Steyn is right, Europe will revert to form to deal with this. Thus will the caliphate succeed, just a millennium or so late.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 15, 2012 04:50 PM (VtjlW)

139 I like recession. I think it's a positive word. You havea "re", which is good. And you have a "session" after it. "Recession".

Posted by: George Costanza at November 15, 2012 04:51 PM (/Mla1)

140
"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
LET. IT. BURN.

Posted by: Karma at November 15, 2012 04:51 PM (+bBSQ)

141 If France enacts that tax that's going to drive Nutella bankrupt, I say we just nuc Paris.

If France WHAT?!? WHAT!?!?

People notice pocketbook issues.

They don't seem to mind paying $4/gal for gas or $4/lb for 75/25 hamburger as long as they get free birth control.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, pre-denounced for your convenience at November 15, 2012 04:51 PM (/kI1Q)

142 Comrades!

5 year plan has been executed perfectly. Capitalist pig-dogs of Europe are collapsing. Evil Jews are being blasted with fire from allied forces, from all directions.

And as is only fair, the loving arms of the Party nurtures it's toiling children with EBC cards and The People's Total Vaginal Supplementation.

FORWARD!

Posted by: your evil retarded neoStalinist betters at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (EZl54)

143 Do we get to loot Hostess Outlets in 45 minutes?

Posted by: yinzer at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (/Mla1)

144 >>I like recession. I think it's a positive word. You havea "re", which is good. And you have a "session" after it. "Recession".

And recess. Don't forget that.

Posted by: Roy at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (VndSC)

145 Senario:

1) fight over fiscal cliff
2) blame Republicans
3) make fancy speech about paying your fair share, the rich and work farms.
4)Fight
5) let all taxes expire
6) let MSM blame Republicans the bad bad bad Republicans
7) come jan/feb Republicans cave and obama gets his way and we are one step closer to full socialism

That's how I see it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (79ueO)

146
I'm sure Bruce Springsteen won't mind sharing with us when things get tough.

And if he does...

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (v8xyR)

147 Ace the reason for today's downturn is in 1973 Wile E Coyote ordered a bomb from ACME that was just delivered today.

BOOM!

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (LRFds)

148 For the people who are throwing money at frantically prepping for TSHTF:

I don't really think the next four years are going to be TSHTF.

They're just going to be the late 1970s. Carternomics redux.

It's going to be hard to find work.

When you do get work, your paycheck won't go very far.

Raises and promotions are going to be scarce.

There will be periodic shortages of certain goods.

Crime is going to go up.

But there is not going to be a total societal collapse. Just a steady undertow of stagnation.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (ymG7s)

149 Obama was elected and re-elected by people who didn't live through the Carter years. Obama's Keynesian economics was refuted by reality more than 30 years before Obama took the Oath of Inauguration in 2009.

As one of the Ancient Greek poets wrote "We learn by suffering". This is as true of the average person today as it was 2500 years ago.

Posted by: The Grand Inquisitor at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (P2Ufm)

150 Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:49 PM (QupBk)
You could also throw in one of those handwarming packages. It absorbs the oxygen.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (m2CN7)

151 They've taken my money, my Constitution, and now my Twinkles ...

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (t5Klv)

152 @145

I'll buy that for a dollar.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (RrD4h)

153 Any of you mugs got a problem with Kirsten Powers, feel free to come at me, bro.

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (mqdAz)

154 "But there is not going to be a total societal collapse. Just a steady undertow of stagnation."

Fuck that. MiB

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (zpqa2)

155 Julia and Sandra Fluke are gonna be pissed when the corner pharmacy is looted and burning. Where will they get their free tampons and contraceptives?

Posted by: Roy at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (VndSC)

156 But there is not going to be a total societal collapse. Just a steady undertow of stagnation.

It doesn't cost much to prepare, in fact, as food prices go up, it saves.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (QupBk)

157 What would you like to bet that the people who voted for Obama haven't learned anything from this?

They'll still vote Dem next time...if there IS a next time.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 15, 2012 04:54 PM (DuH+r)

158
I'll buy that for a dollar.
Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (RrD4h)

You don't got a dollar. And if you do keep it under wraps or obama is gonna come after it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 04:54 PM (79ueO)

159 146 Soothsayer,

I like his ranch and Comrade BRUUUUUCCCCEEE won;t mind me liberating some ponies.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:54 PM (LRFds)

160 Thanks torque for the pep talk.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:54 PM (t5Klv)

161 no, obama's economic plan is teachers. Hiring lots of teachers. As millions of college graduates head back to parent's house to live in basement with their degrees.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (QxSug)

162 Hey, I'm justing leading from behind. I like to lead from behind. I also like to take it from behind.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (x9s9/)

163 Oh please, what country in Europe, outside Russia, has any significant offensive military capability? Does England even have a blue water navy anymore? Europe's armed forces serve two purposes: 1) enabling them to send a handful of troops wherever in a show of solidarity with us; and 2) to make a (weak) show of force against rioters. Europe is not going to start another major war.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (dZ756)

164 My GF is Dem. Every time she complains about inflation or taxes or the economy in general, I say something like, "Well, at least you're not in a binder."

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (Od5/V)

165
Fuck the whales, save the Twinkie!

Posted by: Doctor Fish at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (lDWQr)

166 And ammo prices are not going to go back down either.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (QupBk)

167 no, obama's economic plan is teachers. Hiring lots of teachers. As millions of college graduates head back to parent's house to live in basement with their degrees.
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (QxSug)

They want teachers so they can control the schools and education and the next generation of voters

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (79ueO)

168
@ 127
I also think that is where Obama's "leadership" will take us. But as far as holding him accountable and tying his failures to him, that won't happen. The MSM is his sheild, in Star trek terms. They have built up this Cult Of Personality around this fabricated man "Barack Obama" and they will do everything in their power to see that nothing taints the God-Emporer. See John "Dirty Harry" Nolte for more on this.

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (VDovR)

169 I'm not saying we need one. I'm saying it's going to happen whether we want it to or not.

***

great. Wonder where, who. No one in anglosphere has gonads to defend life liberty anything.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (QxSug)

170 People notice pocketbook issues.



Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 04:48 PM (ymG7s)

Your right about Hollande, and people do notice pocketbook issues. But this a long time coming, I think people are at the point of self preservation, I think they know it's wrong but everyone is looking out for number 1. We could have made the right decision 4 years ago but we didn't, and now we will pay for it. We could have cut spending, reformed entitlements, healthcare, and military spending, cut regulations not just at the national level but at the state level where most of the stupid regulations are made, we could have chosen a pro long term growth model but we didn't, we went for the quick fix the least amount of pain. We could have thrown the country into a pretty bad spot but with a considerably better outlook, unemployment would have been bad (it already was bad), but we would have found ways to grow, instead here we are circling the drain.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (NzBQO)

171 and obama gets his way and we are one step closer to full socialism

Aren't we already pretty much at full Fascism (gov't control of the economy but it's in private hands on paper)? Obamacare tells businesses how many employees they can have and how many hours they can work...how much electricity they can generate...what they have to print on their menus...nationalized the auto industry, nationalized the health care industry...

Posted by: HeatherRadish, pre-denounced for your convenience at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (/kI1Q)

172 "Tampons are still legal though. We really dodged a bullet on that."

I'm carving that line into my next gold bar.

Posted by: Socratease at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (iVBDH)

173 @158

Can I still get lamp oil in this brave new world?

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (RrD4h)

174 I'm sure Bruce Springsteen won't mind sharing with us when things get tough. And if he does...
Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (v8xyR)


"41 Shots"?

Posted by: Memebot at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (ggRof)

175 156 Toby 928th,

QFT buy 50 pounds of rice stat, then flour and beans.

If you can eat for 3 months safely you have a big advantage.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (LRFds)

176 Yeah, I'm not predicting a Mad Max scenario, but you there COULD be an interruption in food supplies or a problem w/water supplies due to weather, civil unrest, etc...

Be prepared. If it never happens, then you can still eat freeze dried food 20-30 years from now.

You have home and car insurance. Why not insure against natural disasters or civil unrest?

Posted by: Warden at November 15, 2012 04:56 PM (HzhBE)

177 "People notice pocketbook issues."

um...if they did, things would be looking significantly better right now.

MAKE IT BURN!

That is the only way they will learn.

Posted by: MrShad at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (Xqfwb)

178 nevergiveup, they already got that. Ugh, we were so close to having Mitt win.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (QxSug)

179 Burn baby burn!

Posted by: The Trammps at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (YmPwQ)

180 And ammo prices are not going to go back down either.
Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:55 PM (QupBk)

Buy a gun and rob the ammo store?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (79ueO)

181 173 GW,

hell you can make it if you use chemistry and carcasses.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (LRFds)

182 Wondering how much longer can German banks keep the whole EU thing afloat. Greeks got another bailout and Spain is teetering--German TV were showning union goons pulling taxi drivers out of their cabs in Barcelona last night because they were working when they declared a strike. They were attacking restaurants that were open as well.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (f+TdG)

183

Rick Perry was just on Cavuto.

Damn.
He said all the right things....didn't seem to be on whatever meds he was on last year.

I still think he would make a great president.

Posted by: wheatie at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (ICEh3)

184 If the Golden Dawn takes over in Greece this will become reality. Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp

Out of perverse curiosity, how would that work?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (uoA/0)

185
First they came for the twinkies and ho-hos and I said nothing.....

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (3BbLJ)

186 "When a large part of Europe goes into a recession, they usually start another World War."

America has changed demographically and culturally. So has Europe.

The old historical patterns will not reassert.

What I expect we may see instead is a resurgence of genuinely free market ideologies across Europe, rejecting the dead hand of _dirigisme_ socialism.

They have no other way out. The cupboard is bare.

They won't call it Reaganism. Or Thatcherism. Too many Europeans still regard RR as having been some sort of a brutal fascist dictator. Too much mud has been smeared on the Iron Lady. But it will be Reaganism/Thatcherism, make no mistake.


Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (ymG7s)

187 176 Warden,

My attitude precisely.

Grandpa and Grandma had bomb shelters....you need an Obarka Shelter.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (LRFds)

188 If Europe goes ugly, things might not work for the Muslims.

Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (t5Klv)

189 The best selling tampon is Tampax.
That is a Procter and Gamble product.
Their stock is off 5% since you-know-when.
There is more than one way to ban a tampon.
Up side: in several states it is now legal to roll your own.

Posted by: comatus at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (qaVK+)

190 no, obama's economic plan is teachers. Hiring lots of teachers.

All that free birth control and abortions, who are they going to teach?

Posted by: HeatherRadish, pre-denounced for your convenience at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (/kI1Q)

191 Golden Dawn. You're soaking in it!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (zpqa2)

192 I'm a sneak thief, not an armed robber.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (QupBk)

193 @181

In the time of starving, carcases should be pretty easy to come by.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (RrD4h)

194 If Europe goes ugly, things might not work for the Muslims.
Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (t5Klv)


Ever hear about that silver lining?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (79ueO)

195 186 TorqueWrench,

If they are more free than we and will take us I may go home to England.....


Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (LRFds)

196 Cavuto doing a brilliant smack-down on Barry for insinuating McCain needs to "man up" because of Susan Rice.

Cage match: McCain and Prissypants. The guy with the crippled arms wins handily.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (UOM48)

197 I'm sure Bruce Springsteen won't mind sharing with us when things get tough.



And if he does...

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:52 PM (v8xyR)




Could he not share his singing any more? Really Brucey keep it to yourself

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (1Jaio)

198 "Rick Perry was just on Cavuto. Damn. He said all the right things....didn't seem to be on whatever meds he was on last year."

The only thing I want to hear from Rick Perry is "we're filing the secession papers".

If you haven't read this, take a moment to do so.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/13/secession-yall-why-texas-can-pull-it-off/


Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (ymG7s)

199 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a president for life

Posted by: RJ at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (QTVh2)

200 193 GW,

Yup livestock or folk you just need liquid potash....


Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (LRFds)

201 "You don't got a dollar. And if you do keep it under wraps or obama is gonna come after it"

Obama doesn't need to take your dollar, he'll just print 100 more so your's is only worth a penny.

Posted by: Socratease at November 15, 2012 04:59 PM (iVBDH)

202 Cavuto just bitch slapped obama around for going after Hanoi McCain for not being a man.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:00 PM (79ueO)

203 85 Didn't think there were that many worth hitting in Gaza.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (e0xKF)


How many people over the age of 14 are there?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2012 05:00 PM (XkWWK)

204 If Europe goes ugly, things might not work for the Muslims

This. The euros have shown off their genocidal streak before.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 15, 2012 05:00 PM (xKC/c)

205 188
If Europe goes ugly, things might not work for the Muslims.




Nah, they're like cockroaches.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 05:00 PM (UOM48)

206
Hooray! As of today, we are lib free. Wife just defriended last two libs in our life.

Posted by: teddicus bearicus at November 15, 2012 05:00 PM (x9s9/)

207 Welp, it's official, I'm closing down my business next Wednesday. I was waiting for the election to see if I had a glimmer of hope and judging by everything I'm hearing my customers saying - that glimmer is fucking gone.

Looks like I'm just going to go back to school and use my 9/11 GI Bill while the money is still there. Sad thing is, I'll be making more money than when I was a business owner.


LIB

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (uD2fR)

208 @183

I firmly believe that someone darted Rick Perry, it's the only explanation!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (RrD4h)

209 First they came for the twinkies and ho-hos and I said nothing.....


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 15, 2012 04:58 PM (3BbLJ)


Sandy Fuck: No one has come for me yet! But I still need you to pay for my birth control

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (1Jaio)

210 Where's your dollah!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (zpqa2)

211 151 and now my Twinkles ...
Posted by: Jean at November 15, 2012 04:53 PM (t5Klv)

No down twinkles? AmeriKKKA has struck again.

Posted by: DOW @ -75 at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (UZQM8)

212 Remember to be dirty and skinny, preferably with an unpleasant odor, even if you have a food cache.

Learn the ways of the wasteland.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (QupBk)

213 190 no, obama's economic plan is teachers. Hiring lots of teachers.

All that free birth control and abortions, who are they going to teach?


***

Got me, I thought that was a good point. The only children I see running around are going to be covered by the Dream Act until they're 32 or something.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (QxSug)

214
I hope you're happy, libruls.
Sweet sweet recession. You can blame it on Bush all you want, but it doens't change the fact that your boyfriend is a disaster and your leftwing ideals are a sad joke.

Posted by: Fresh at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (O7ksG)

215
You mean the land of the thirty-hour work week, 3 months paid vacation, free health care, high taxes, unlimited unemployment benefits, impossible to fire employees, and strong unions were supposed to pull us out of a recession?
Europe was able to get away with for so long because 1. we rebuilt their sorry asses after WW2, 2. We didn't trust them with guns anymore so we subsidized their military with NATO, and 3. government became their god. Live now screw coming generations.

Posted by: deepred at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (YmACv)

216 Didn't think there were that many worth hitting in Gaza.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 15, 2012 04:42 PM (e0xKF)


How many people over the age of 14 are there?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2012 05:00 PM (XkWWK)

They probalby have more 54 inch HD TVs than a normal US City. Take out the power plants and hear the whining

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (79ueO)

217 If Texas secedes, does Mexico invade?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (dZ756)

218 When McCain gets a hair up his ass, he can be persistent. Stuff like this gets a hair up his ass. Running for President, not as much.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 05:02 PM (6Zy+s)

219 Good thing we all voted for a 'safe', middle-of-the-road, douchebag "conservative" from Massachusetts.
*Guh*

Posted by: Tim at November 15, 2012 05:02 PM (cqZXM)

220 They used to say that 'when America sneezed, Europe caught a cold'. But now we're in the grips of a dementia that grips 50% of voters here so I think the 'common wisdom' needs some updating.

More like 'when America strolls naked out into the front yard, Europe puts their toothbrushes in the refrigerator'.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 05:02 PM (feFL6)

221 OT: The "US" is asking Egypt to step in to help resolve the situation between Hamas and Israel.

I, for one, am certain that this will work well.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 05:03 PM (FcR7P)

222 Isn't Europe's default condition a recession?

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:03 PM (zpqa2)

223 If Texas secedes, does Mexico invade?
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I dunno, but if Texas secedes, I'm moving there in a hurry.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at November 15, 2012 05:03 PM (HJsDx)

224 Hey, can we loot the Hostess facilities yet? Only because I want to stick it to the rich capitalist executives, not because I want to savor some delicious yellow spongecake with a sweet creamy filling.

Posted by: Michael Moore at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (/Mla1)

225 "If Texas secedes, does Mexico invade?"
The U.S. flooded with undocumented Mexicans? That'll never happen.

Posted by: Tim at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (Mv/2X)

226 If Texas secedes, does Mexico invade?

Where, oh where, would they get sufficient weaponry to take Texas?

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (FcR7P)

227 The "US" is asking Egypt to step in to help resolve the situation between Hamas and Israel.

I, for one, am certain that this will work well.
Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 05:03 PM (FcR7P)


???Yeah I saw that. Does obama and State have any idea who is running those 2 countries? what a bunch of stupid cock suckers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (79ueO)

228 Rick Perry was just on Cavuto.

Damn.
He said all the right things....didn't seem to be on whatever meds he was on last year.


The story I heard was sleep apnea, brought on by the back surgery.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (4+LTj)

229 If Texas secedes, does Mexico invade?
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I dunno, but if Texas secedes, I'm moving there in a hurry.


If Texas secedes, the morons invade.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (QupBk)

230 204 "The euros have shown off their genocidal streak before. "

They're more likely to go after the Jews.

Again.

Posted by: Socratease at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (iVBDH)

231
I sense a bit of saber rattling to come from Iran.

Which is exactly what Obama needs right now. Hahahahahhahaha.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:04 PM (v8xyR)

232 @223

If Texas secedes they are going to build high fucking walls with moats and trebuchets full of molten slag to keep people out.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 15, 2012 05:05 PM (RrD4h)

233 I'd be onboard for high-speed rail lines to Texas. From everywhere.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:05 PM (zpqa2)

234 The only thing I want to hear from Rick Perry is "we're filing the secession papers".

If you haven't read this, take a moment to do so.

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Texas is capable of doing it, but bringing Louisiana along gives them more leverage IMHO.

The big thing would be that Louisiana controls the mouth of the Mississippi, which fucks up the supply chain for the rest of the country if they go. The additional resources in food production and petroleum is a bonus.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 15, 2012 05:05 PM (e0xKF)

235 Rick Perry was still an open borders nutcase.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:05 PM (QxSug)

236 Out of perverse curiosity, how would that work?


Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 04:57 PM (uoA/0)

They have, for the last couple of elections, pulled in around 10% of the popular vote. Now I saw they were up to around 23.5% popularity about a week ago. In a European system, you don't need 50%, because of multiple parties. There are pretty big swings in party popularity year to year, many disband and reform relatively quickly. They could easily form a coalition with another anti-austerity group, the communists. You think that sounds crazy, but considering what they are fighting don't be shocked if they join forces.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 05:05 PM (NzBQO)

237 EPIC smackdown of Obama (love the nic they gave him: Amateur Hour Ass Clown) over a possible John Kerry as SecDef at Blackfive:

http://tinyurl.com/bkvj3ur

Love it. Amateur Hour Ass Clown....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 05:05 PM (UOM48)

238 207 Burn the Witch,

Consider trade school...

learn welding or machining....

I aim to learn welding after I get my EMT certs back.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:06 PM (LRFds)

239 This talk of secession is stupid and hurts us. But, as farmer joe said, if anyone does it, I'm moving there too.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:06 PM (QxSug)

240
Stop yammering about the tampons! My obamaphone's battery ran down and I haven't gotten a new one yet! No Justice, No Peace.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 15, 2012 05:06 PM (eEev7)

241 "Welp, it's official, I'm closing down my business next Wednesday. ... Looks like I'm just going to go back to school and use my 9/11 GI
Bill while the money is still there."

Good. Do that.

Sign up for as much government shit as you can while the tap is still open.

People should have absolutely no shame about ruthlessly gaming the system at this point.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 05:06 PM (ymG7s)

242 The big thing would be that Louisiana controls the mouth of the Mississippi, which fucks up the supply chain for the rest of the country if they go.

They would not impede the flow of materials up and down, though there may need to be a custom applied.

Posted by: toby928© comes out of left field at November 15, 2012 05:07 PM (QupBk)

243 234 Brandon ,

Bring along just MS and you're whistling Dixie add in that OK will come and likely AR....YAY

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:07 PM (LRFds)

244
the word you're looking for is plunder

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:07 PM (v8xyR)

245 Damned DOW sock decimated.

Posted by: cajun carrot at November 15, 2012 05:07 PM (UZQM8)

246 217 If Texas secedes, does Mexico invade?


Posted by: SFGoth at November 15, 2012 05:01 PM (dZ756)


If'n the Mexican Army can't take care of its own Countries Drug Lords... do you think it could take on the Texicans?

Remember.... the Alamo?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 15, 2012 05:07 PM (lZBBB)

247 Tampons are still legal though. We really dodged a bullet on that.

Yay! I was hoarding them in case MittWitt got elected. Now I can stuff them into the enormous sucking chest wound my 401k has developed since Mr. Wonderful was re-elected. This means I have to work until I'm 96 years old! Forward!

I'm so happy we won! Joe Biden 2016!!

Posted by: Elaine Cooter-Spoogerson, Chairperson Re-Elect Obama 2012 for the local gated community at November 15, 2012 05:07 PM (DLu2s)

248 If Texas secedes, then the LaRaza types will probably take back southern Cali, NM, and NV but leave AZ.

After that, then we go dystopia.

Would the midwest stay connected between what's left of NorCal, OR, WA and NY?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (QxSug)

249
What's more fun, to pillage or to plunder?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (v8xyR)

250 If TX got LA, then pretty soon, MO and KY would join.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (QxSug)

251 Wait, whendid we leave the last recession again?

Because I'm a little fuzzy on that part.

And no I didn't read the comments.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (ygfmC)

252 Hay, here's a fun list I found over at a blog called "The Other Saul" (h/t)-link in my nick

Here is a list of some, not all, of the companies that have announced layoffs in the last week:
Ann Taylor- 117 stores nationwide closing
Bombay - closing remaining stores
Brake Parts – laid off 75 workers
Bristol-Meyers – laid off 480 employees
Cache - will close all stores
Center for Hospice New York – temporarily laid off as many as 40 employees
CVPH Medical Center - handed pink slips to 17 employees
Darden Restaurants – will reduce workers to 28 hours per week to avoid paying for Obamacare
Dillard's - to close some stores
Disney - closing 98 stores and will close more after January
Eddie Bauer - to close stores 27 stores and more after January
Energizer - expects to shed about 1,500 employees
Ethan Allen closing down 12 stores.
Exide Technologies - laying off 150 workers, effective no later than March 31
Footlocker - closing 140 stores more to close after January
GAP - closing 85 stores
Hawker Beechcraft – Laid off 240 employees
Home Depot- closing 15 stores 1 in NJ
Hostess - closes 3 bakeries
Husqvarna – laid off 600 employees
JC Penney - closing a number of stores after January
J. Jill - closing all stores
K B Toys - closing 356 stores
Lane Bryant, Fashion Bug ,and Catherine's - to close 150 stores nationwide
Levitz - closing down remaining stores
Lightyear Network Solutions – Laid off more than one dozen employees
Linens and Things - closing all stores
Lowes - to close down 30 stores
Macy's - to close 9 stores after January
Momentive Performance Materials – laid off about 150 workers
Movie Galley Closing all stores
OCE North America – laid off 135 workers
Pep Boys - Closing 33 stores
Piercing Pagoda - closing all stores
Providence Journal - Laid off 23 full-time workers
Research in Motion Limited - laid off about 200 people at its U.S. headquarters
Rocketdyne – laid off about 100 employees
Sharper Image- closing down all stores
Sprint/Nextel - closing 133 stores
Talbots Pacific Sunwear - closing down specialty stores
Texas Instruments - will lay off 1,700 employees (H/T to @Repub9989)
United Blood Services Gulf – will lay off 10% of it’s workforce
US Cellular – laid off 980 employees
Vestas Wind Systems – laid off 3,000 staff
Whitehall - closing all stores
West Ridge Mine - Will close down “204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014″
Westinghouse – laid off another 50 employees
Wickes Furniture - closing down all stores
Wilson Leather - closing down all stores
Zales - closing down 82 stores and 105 after January

<br>
That's all in less than 10 days.<br><br>
Oh brave new world, that has such idiots in't!

Posted by: Weirddave at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (aH+zP)

253 Hey y'all! We've got a port too!

Posted by: Alabama at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (QupBk)

254 239 JoeInDC,

It's stupid only because people have not pondered it.

I decided to ponder it and I am deciding whether to be at peace with it.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (LRFds)

255
Pillaging sounds sneaky.

Plundering sounds exciting and brazen, and probably involves sex.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:09 PM (v8xyR)

256 253 Alabama,

Yeah but Florida....icky icky Florida we may need a buffer.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:09 PM (LRFds)

257
@ 217
Hasn't Mexico been invading for the last 20 or so years?

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:09 PM (VDovR)

258 Remember though; loot, THEN burn.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 15, 2012 05:09 PM (QupBk)

259 from Drudge
Presidential Proclamation -- America Recycles Day, 2012




yeah we are planning to celebrate that one ourselves....


Posted by: the Red State Alliance at November 15, 2012 05:10 PM (EZl54)

260 252 weirddave,

YAY new opportunity!


//ObamaFO voter

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:10 PM (LRFds)

261 Posted by: Weirddave at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (aH+zP)

Math.... somehow the Government can ignore it.... but Business cannot...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 15, 2012 05:10 PM (lZBBB)

262 The Ron Paul secession video from awhile back is actually pretty good explanation.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:10 PM (zpqa2)

263 Good insult meme:

Environmentalists are the Taliban wing of the Democratic Party.

Sure, it's a blatant copy of the Tea Party slur. But it works. It portrays the eco-freaks as religious zealots willing to immiserate humanity for their crusade.

Also it's a slur that can be used in polite company. The left has their racist, sexist, homophobic slurs. Polite company slurs are important for the guerrilla warfare to come.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 15, 2012 05:10 PM (ZPrif)

264
Visigoths.

Moronigoths.

Eh?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:10 PM (v8xyR)

265 246 Romeo13,

They are not horrible soldiers....

of course I never left Claymores on the back 40 in El paso....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:11 PM (LRFds)

266 The worst part about that excuse is that I think it has it exactly backwards: the United States hasn’t seen a full meltdown partially because we’re the last man standing. If another country actually were to pull itself out of the depression, the we’d no longer be the least of several bad options, and we’d sink even further.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 15, 2012 05:11 PM (QF8uk)

267
Things change.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:11 PM (v8xyR)

268 I heard from a friend that a mutual acquaintance on Facechimp had posted something prior to the election about how crazy it would be to switch quarterbacks in the middle of the game.

Well, we didn't switch, and our quarterback doing the same fine job he did before.

Have a nice ash heap, asshole.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows we are now Airstrip One at November 15, 2012 05:11 PM (Lxw+T)

269 I keep telling myself to apply for food stamps -- I am perfectly comfortable now but do qualify, who doesn't -- but I just can't. I am too proud. I am of the LIB school, but I just can't do it.

Obama may break me before the end of this four years, but for now I still have a conscience.

Posted by: PJ at November 15, 2012 05:11 PM (ZWaLo)

270 That support has been pulled out from the market and off we go.
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To da moon...Alice!

Posted by: Ralph Kramden, announcing the start of Obamacession at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (jm/9g)

271 Posted by: Weirddave at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (aH+zP)

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Didn't Boeing announce some too?

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (M7Cfv)

272 Good thing we all voted for a 'safe', middle-of-the-road, douchebag "conservative" from Massachusetts. *Guh*
Posted by: Tim at November 15, 2012 05:02 PM (cqZXM)

You probably didn't vote cause you've got principles and allthat.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (m2CN7)

273 Send the Europeon's our great accountant, Johnny Corzine to help with their financial crisis, he already has some capital over there to work with.

Posted by: Clemenza at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (wmYMY)

274
@ 265
Obama isn't teflon. But he does have a large teflon shield called the MSM.

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (VDovR)

275 253
Hey y'all! We've got a port too!

Posted by: Alabama at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (QupBk)


We do too! Second busiest on the east coast. And we have nuclear power facilities! And army bases!

Posted by: Georgia at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (UOM48)

276 "Good thing we all voted for a 'safe', middle-of-the-road, douchebag 'conservative' from Massachusetts."

I never got the chance to vote in the primaries for Romney; that was a settled issue by the time the vote got here.

I was hoping that a certain rogue Alaskan conservative might get into the race.

Sadly, she was dissuaded by heavy pressure from the Beltway Buttmunch party establishment.

The establishment figures said that if the Alaskan ran, her real views and personal character would be horribly caricatured and distorted by the media to the point where victory in the general election would be impossible.

Well! I'm certainly glad we passed on that risky bet, and went with the safe choice which insulated us from those consequences. Thank you, party establishment, for your prudent wisdom.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (ymG7s)

277 In the "Good for Him" department:

Jessie Jackson Jr. says he will step down from his congressional seat as soon as he's guaranteed disability benefits for LIFE.


Oh wait........

Posted by: © Sponge at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (UK9cE)

278 Would the midwest stay connected between what's left of NorCal, OR, WA and NY?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (QxSug)

It wouldn't, Washington, Oregon, NorCal, would turn into United States of Jefferson. And when I talk about those states I mean their coasts. If inland California ever got the opportunity to split from the coast it would happen.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 15, 2012 05:13 PM (NzBQO)

279 btw, if only you guys put as much effort on recounts and voter fraud. I am lazy, sorry, but working on list of districts that were clearly voter fraud centers. Next election all of us need to be voter judges to stop it.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:13 PM (QxSug)

280 "I never got the chance to vote in the primaries for Romney; that was a settled issue by the time the vote got here."

(BTW, how's that primary calendar scheme working for us in terms of
selecting winners over the last 20 years? Not so good? Great! Let's not
tinker with what's not working, say the Beltway Buttmunch crowd.)

Posted by: torquewrench at November 15, 2012 05:14 PM (ymG7s)

281 Leading from behind!

Posted by: SouthTexas at November 15, 2012 05:14 PM (Rmz5I)

282 @252

Wow, so many straight-up racist companies. It's like a mall full of white sheets with two holes precut.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows we are now Airstrip One at November 15, 2012 05:14 PM (Lxw+T)

283 Sadly, she was dissuaded by heavy pressure from the Beltway Buttmunch party establishment.

I think more likely she also just didn’t want to run if there was a better option available, and at the time, everyone thought Perry was going to do great.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 15, 2012 05:15 PM (QF8uk)

284 i'm not trying to be Jen Rubin here but it's pretty clear to me that Romney was the best choice from a poor field. If someone really wants to make the argument that someone else in the primaries/Sarah Palin could've done better, fine, but I ain't buyin' it

these whole "lost because he's too moderate/lost because he's too conservative" dueling arguments miss the point IMO

Posted by: JDP at November 15, 2012 05:16 PM (60GaT)

285 Oh brave new world, that has such idiots in't!


Posted by: Weirddave at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (aH+zP)
Yow! That superstorm Sandy must have been worse than I thought!

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 05:16 PM (Hx5uv)

286 Posted by: Weirddave at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (aH+zP)
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Figures the women's stores that are clothing are more career-oriented (except for Fashion Bug). I don't see any of those chains that sell hoochie clothes to the free contraception/unlimited abortion crowd on the list.

Posted by: Ralph Kramden, announcing the start of Obamacession at November 15, 2012 05:16 PM (jm/9g)

287 DOW only down 28 points today. RECOVERY BABY! Had the fed not stepped in and propped it up with 62 truckloads of hundreds there's no telling what it might have dropped to.

Posted by: Whatev at November 15, 2012 05:16 PM (2t6Gz)

288 Amid economic crisis, European Union approves $6.3 billion in aid for Muslim Brotherhood Egypt


Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:17 PM (79ueO)

289 279 JoeinDC,

I agree....

I *am* volunteering to poll watch in '14 and if which is unlikely I am told to "get lost" well....

I am signing the next petition.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:17 PM (LRFds)

290
Maybe our media and our institutions of higher learning should consider teaching actual economics - instead of vilifying capitalism and free markets.
?

yeah - right.

Posted by: Fresh at November 15, 2012 05:17 PM (O7ksG)

291 266 The worst part about that excuse is that I think it has it exactly backwards: the United States hasn�t seen a full meltdown partially because we�re the last man standing. If another country actually were to pull itself out of the depression, the we�d no longer be the least of several bad options, and we�d sink even further.

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We're being propped up in part because the dollar is the reserve currency for international transactions and all other contenders for that status, such as the Euro, are up shit creek.

If the dollar loses that status as reserve currency, we're completely fucked.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 15, 2012 05:18 PM (e0xKF)

292
228Rick Perry was just on Cavuto.

Damn.
He said all the right things....didn't seem to be on whatever meds he was on last year.


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The story I heard was sleep apnea, brought on by the back surgery.

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It was probably a combination of things.
After back surgery...you're supposed to be lying flat for quite a while.
Perry didn't do that.

The slightest wrong movement can undo the healing that has taken place.

So yeah, sleep apnea...meds...constant pain...it was probably a combination of it all that let to him being off his game.

Posted by: wheatie at November 15, 2012 05:18 PM (ICEh3)

293 284 JDP,

it misses the point as badly as Columbus missed india....

we're past that now time to survive the kenyan keynesian kommando

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:18 PM (LRFds)

294 So now we will be entering a second recession soon, as if the first one ever ended.

Posted by: Jordan at November 15, 2012 05:18 PM (ZPZfC)

295 @275
253

Hey y'all! We've got a port too!



Posted by: Alabama at November 15, 2012 05:08 PM (QupBk)

We do too! Second busiest on the east coast. And we have nuclear power facilities! And army bases!

Posted by: Georgia at November 15, 2012 05:12 PM (UOM4
Hi Mama ! See ya'll soon !



Posted by: 90% of the US military at November 15, 2012 05:18 PM (EZl54)

296 Urop falling into a recession is like an old lady falling into the bags under her eyes. They are always there right at the brink, and none of the smart set can imagine how it might happen.

Posted by: Truman North at November 15, 2012 05:19 PM (I2LwF)

297 Romney was the best choice from a poor field. If
someone really wants to make the argument that someone else in the
primaries/Sarah Palin could've done better, fine, but I ain't buyin' it

these whole "lost because he's too moderate/lost because he's too conservative" dueling arguments miss the point IMO


Posted by: JDP at November 15, 2012 05:16 PM (60GaT)

This is true. I'd even say Mitt was best choice, period, given what we now know about the electorate.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:19 PM (zpqa2)

298 2014 poll watching should be interesting. You see that the navy seal guy organized a counter Black Panther poll thing in Philly.

I imagine that that's where the country's going. Until Holder makes us stop.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:19 PM (QxSug)

299 Its' burning down.
Conservative's sole objective should be to make sure that Americans understand that Democratic policies are to blame.

And it doesn't matter how long it takes, either. Look at the Left's Long March through the institutions. Look at Britain's Labor Party, which hung on through the longTory dominance all through the Great Depression and WWII, and then won so decisively that the Tories became just an alternate Labor party until Thatcher.
The thing is going to burn, putting out fires is impossible, the only thing that matters is (1) covering yourself, personally and (2) making sure the public understands who started the fire.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 15, 2012 05:19 PM (ZMzpb)

300
I thought you'd be pleased, Jordan.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:20 PM (v8xyR)

301 So now we will be entering a second recession soon, as if the first one ever ended.

---

It makes perfect sense. It's National Recycling Day and we're recycling a recession.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 05:20 PM (Hx5uv)

302
I don't know how to do links, but go to nationalseniors.org Barry is getting ready to steal 401ks.

Posted by: misty at November 15, 2012 05:20 PM (JIZ1c)

303 basically, we'll need vets to poll watch at all 100,000 districts/polls next election.

If you read through punditpress blog you will see just the beginning of the revelation of what was going on behind closed poll doors.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:21 PM (QxSug)

304
Breaking News: CIA opens investigation into conduct of former chief David Petraeus while he was head of spy agency

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 15, 2012 05:21 PM (nTgAI)

305 I've still got my "Rick Perry, bitches!" bumper sticker.....just in case.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 05:21 PM (UOM48)

306 Europe LOVES Obama, though. Some pundit somewhere wrote or said that Obama would win election in any European country (I am guessing Rumsfeldian "Old Europe") in a landslide.

Well, you want it, you got it.

Let it burn. Especially Europe. Fuckers.

Posted by: Golan Globus at November 15, 2012 05:23 PM (/1U3u)

307 1
they're blaming the austerity cuts

what cuts? they haven't cut anything; they've only talked about making cuts
Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 04:25 PM (v8xyR)

The same cuts that resulted in a decrease in security in Benghazi. You remember. THOSE cuts.

You don't remember?

Posted by: blindside at November 15, 2012 05:23 PM (x7g7t)

308 Mitt was the best choice. Ryan was fiery and competent.

The only thing I have to complain about, in hindsight, was that the GOP did nothing about voter fraud. but since it's crazy to talk about voter fraud, here's the other thing that happened.

1. Romney needed to go hardcore after obama, not rest on competency and coast in 3rd debate
2. apparently, Romney needed to do something different with Sandy.
3. I have no idea what to do about Akin and Mourdock but we needed to win every senate seat and we lost every single one.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:23 PM (QxSug)

309 @276- puts torquewrench in the patriot folder

Posted by: In Cognito at November 15, 2012 05:24 PM (cWpCn)

310 The US State Department has instructed diplomats stationed in Israel not to send their children to school in light of the rocket fire on the Tel Aviv metropolitan area.

The US Embassy has forbidden its employees from travelling to south Israel. (Itamar Eichner)

Fair enough but don't start telling Israel to back off in 48 hours

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:24 PM (79ueO)

311 I've done my share of pole watching

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 15, 2012 05:24 PM (jucos)

312 That list at 252 is pretty inaccurate, upon snooping at snopes.com


However, this is more up to date and well linked:

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/

Posted by: George Orwell what knows we are now Airstrip One at November 15, 2012 05:24 PM (Lxw+T)

313 I've been thinking about a way to put blame on the president and not the Republicans in Congress for the worsening economy to come.

The House could pass a bill that...

1. Continues the Bush tax cuts for everyone permanently

2. Allows BUT DOES NOT REQUIRE *the president* to temporarily raise taxes up to a certain maximum for those making over $200K and above

3. The President could not raise taxes until February, putting distance between the passage of the bill and the president's action--more clearly placing the onus on him. The President would have a 3-month window in which to raise taxes. After that he would have missed his chance.

4. The taxes raised by the President would expire on a date certain (for example, on March 1, 2016)

5. Spending cuts would also be included in the bill.

Congressional Republicans could say...

* We did not raise taxes. We passed permanent tax cuts.
* The President raised taxes.
* We prepared the nation to be on sound footing again once this president's disastrous second term is over.

What do you think?

Posted by: edj at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (+QKfp)

314 The Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram has reported that Egyptian Foreign Minister Muhammad Amro held consultations with the foreign ministers of Tunisia, Jordan and Britain in light of recent developments in Gaza. During the consultations Amro warned that he will not allow Egypt's relations with Israel to impede Egyptian support of the Palestinians. (Roi Kais)

Relations?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (79ueO)

315 If you qualify for food stamps, but you are not applying for them, you are not down with the MiB.

To destroy the left, we must become them. Suck at that government teat until it is completely dry. Then the whelps will starve.

Hopefully we will still have the ability to support ourselves.
Use the money you save to lay up some food storage.
Learn to grow food a preserve it.
Buy some more ammo.

Things will get far worse before they get any better. MiB just gets it over faster.

Posted by: MrShad at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (Xqfwb)

316 I believe that Rick Perry however would have been full of piss and vinegar, and probably would've won because he's the sort of candidate to spend an entire debate nailing Romney on his illegal immigrant lawn guys.

Romney is cold competent and a winner. Perry is a more, ah, spirited warrior and also a winner.

however, this is in hindsight.

we know now that Romney did really well with white americans, it's just that the replacement americans out there will never vote GOP.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (QxSug)

317 Uhhhhhhhh...FORE-WARD!!!

Posted by: TEH WON at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (XPk/h)

318 Breaking News: CIA opens investigation into conduct of former chief David Petraeus while he was head of spy agency
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 15, 2012 05:21 PM (nTgAI)

looks like they are really tring to keep him quiet. Must be screwed to be eaten by your own government after serving it for so long.

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (nTgAI)

319
You have to think about why all these federal agencies AND the msm are diving into the Petrayus affair whole hog, so to speak.

Why?

Two reasons.

1. It's titillating.
2. They can spin it in such a way that it does not go near Obama.
3. It keeps us occupied while Obama, Reid, and Boner make mischief.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (v8xyR)

320 I've done my share of pole watching
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 15, 2012 05:24 PM (jucos)

But don't you get crossed eyed looking at them so close up all the time?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:26 PM (79ueO)

321 Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp. ------------- I'd love to be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins.
Posted by: Farmer Joe


Its burning down anyway, might as well pretend it was our idea.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 15, 2012 05:26 PM (ZMzpb)

322
Tampons are still legal though. We really dodged a bullet on that.


Posted by: Ace at 04:23 PM


Does anybody have a good recipe for tampons i could trythis thanksgiving?

Posted by: kj at November 15, 2012 05:26 PM (AW9md)

323 @308:
about your "2":
Christie did not invite Mitt to NJ to survey the damaged areas. In fact, when he was asked at press conference if Gov. Romney would be coming, he bluntly and belligerently exclaimed that "I don't care, this is not the time for politics!".

He couldn't find a graceful way to pass the ball back to Mitt, he basically invalidated any help that Romney could have or did offer.

Posted by: kallisto at November 15, 2012 05:27 PM (jm/9g)

324 Maybe it's a good thing that Teh JEF won/stole this election. The wheels will be coming off in this 4 year term and probably would have had Mittens won as well. A little harder for the retarded left to blame the repukes. Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 15, 2012 05:27 PM (jucos)

325 Must be screwed to be eaten by your own government after serving it for so long.
Posted by: The Jackhole at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (nTgAI)

Go to work for obama and beware, you just might get screwed and not in the way your accustom to?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:27 PM (79ueO)

326 Does anybody have a good recipe for tampons i could try this thanksgiving?

I'll tell you this: While they are highly absorbent, they don't make for good turkey stuffing.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows we are now Airstrip One at November 15, 2012 05:27 PM (Lxw+T)

327 @ 299

"Conservative's sole objective should be to make sure that Americans understand that Democratic policies are to blame."

This is why the House should roll over. Otherwise you know who will get blamed.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:28 PM (zpqa2)

328 The US State Department has instructed diplomats stationed in Israel not to send their children to school in light of the rocket fire on the Tel Aviv metropolitan area.

But we've totally got your back!

Posted by: State Department at November 15, 2012 05:28 PM (FcR7P)

329 OT question, does misty=curious? Because if so the hash change to "JIZfic" was hilarious. If not, less funny. But still giggle worthy.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 15, 2012 05:28 PM (RZ8pf)

330 Does anybody have a good recipe for tampons i could try this thanksgiving?

Would you be interested in a recipe for vodka-flavored tampons? Made with real vodka!


Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:28 PM (SY2Kh)

331 edj, I like these kinds of proposals.

Fuck the media, if republicans, as a whole, would just go after the media it would breakthrough.

Every fucking interview. Excuse me CBS you are liars. NBC liars. ABC liars.

Bring up 4 murdered americans. Bring up FF and the hundreds of mexicans killed.


CALL THEM OUT AS AN ARM OF THE LEFTY MACHINE.

Every time. The media cannot ignore the entire party. It would be impossible.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 15, 2012 05:29 PM (tVTLU)

332 The morning after the election, I stood in line at the store behind several white women talking to each other (and a white woman cashier) saying how relieved they were that Obama had been re-elected. They lamented how bad the economy has been for the last four years, but said Obama just needs more time to fix it!

I wonder what excuse these stupid scrunts are going to be offering each other four years from now, when things are even worse than they are now?

Posted by: Observer at November 15, 2012 05:29 PM (/sohm)

333 249soothsayer
"What's more fun, to pillage or to plunder?"That's a tough call.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at November 15, 2012 05:29 PM (f+TdG)

334 @323 yeah, that's a problem. but it seems Romney lost 5 points from Sandy and he was powerless to do anything. Except mock obama's big puffy jacket, which Romney was too cold, professional, and adult to do.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:29 PM (QxSug)

335
Unfortunately, we can't repeat WWII to get us out of it since we all the bad actors/nation-states also have nuclear weapons.


FIFY

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 15, 2012 05:29 PM (kqqGm)

336 Maybe it's a good thing that Teh JEF won/stole this
election. The wheels will be coming off in this 4 year term and
probably would have had Mittens won as well. A little harder for the
retarded left to blame the repukes. Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 15, 2012 05:27 PM (jucos)

This is the way I look at it too. Obama winning was the second-best thing that could have happened election day.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:29 PM (zpqa2)

337 Any State Dept employee who is still overseas, or has their family overseas, is just asking to be murdered. Did they learn nothing from Amb. Stevens? And the administration clowns in DC will just laugh when the bodies come home.

Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2012 05:30 PM (neKzn)

338 Does anybody have a good recipe for tampons i could try this thanksgiving?


Yes. Dip them in some Sangria and instead of using a bowl or pitcher, just squeeze some into everyones glass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:30 PM (79ueO)

339 Posted by: Jordan at November 15, 2012 05:18 PM (ZPZfC)

Hi Jordan. Is the Texas Legislature still in session?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 05:30 PM (4h0z0)

340
I'll tell you this: While they are highly absorbent, they don't make for good turkey stuffing.

funny i thought they were made for stuffing

Posted by: kj at November 15, 2012 05:30 PM (AW9md)

341 US Economy = Outhouse
Obama = Henry Blake

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 15, 2012 05:30 PM (jucos)

342 332:
This was a main part of the problem. Frankly people still put a lot of blame on Bush for the economy.

That's why, for the most part, the GOP need to let Obama have what he wants.

And then watch the shitstorm that follows.......

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 15, 2012 05:31 PM (tVTLU)

343 People like to make excuses for Obama -- they love doing that, and they've gotten good at it

President Special Needs Child.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 15, 2012 05:32 PM (xSegX)

344
@ 332
That's one of the things that pissed me off about Romney keeping quiet on. Reagan turned a shit economy completely around in 2 years. You would think Mitt and the R establishment would have repeated this fact endlessly since the Obamamorons kept repeating that their guy needed more time.

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:32 PM (VDovR)

345 Today, a hard left-wing pro-Hamas rally took place in Tel Aviv. Attendees included Elizabeth Tsurkov of the Hotline for Migrant Workers; useful idiot Tsurkov also writes for the anti-Israel rag 972mag.com.

The rally apparently broke up shortly thereafter, thanks to rocket sirens warning of incoming ordinance … from Hamas-controlled Gaza. The delicious irony of leftist stupidity exists, even in Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:33 PM (79ueO)

346 yeah, people still blame bush which was why I cringed with Romney's handling of the "pls don't be W" question.

The GOP needs to man up and explain that W's presidency was like 5% unemployment until Nancy got ahold of power.

By our silence, we're breaking the 11th commandment

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

347 hint, the left will never take blame.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

348 People notice pocketbook issues.
Posted by: torquewrench


Obama won, dude. Jimmy 2.0 just got reelected.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 15, 2012 05:34 PM (ZMzpb)

349 The excuse the women will be offering is that Obama just needs to have ANOTHER four years to fix it and who knows-Obama may try to pull a routine like the corrupt woman in Argentina and go for it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2012 05:34 PM (T8WRP)

350 I am LOVING that Denny's will actually list the 5% price increase as a line item "Obamacare Surcharge" to their customers.

They are prepared for the backlash.

Perhaps we should visit more often and not wait around for the next Baconalia event.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2012 05:34 PM (piMMO)

351 hint, the left will never take blame.
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

Then we just have to keep shoving it up their asses. Hey we could use them free tampons to do that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:34 PM (79ueO)

352 What do you think?


Posted by: edj at November 15, 2012 05:25 PM (+QKfp)


I think there's no such thing as 'temporary' in DC. Temporary becomes permanent.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2012 05:34 PM (X6akg)

353 Springsteen tixs for 30 commemorative Obama inauguration silver coins -- email @ FatRINOBastidJudas@gmale.com

Posted by: Chris Crusty Lips and Sandy Knees at November 15, 2012 05:35 PM (feFL6)

354 **344
@ 332
That's one of the things that pissed me off about Romney keeping quiet on. Reagan turned a shit economy completely around in 2 years. You would think Mitt and the R establishment would have repeated this fact endlessly since the Obamamorons kept repeating that their guy needed more time.
***

you know what, that's really good. and funny.

If you listened to Obama's mental breakdowns before election day, you could tell that he was running as Bill Clinton's third term.

That is, he was all like, hey it worked for uncle bill, so reelect me.

Completely lameity.

so yeah, compare him to reagan.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:35 PM (QxSug)

355 This will somehow be blamed on President Romney. They are that insane.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 15, 2012 05:36 PM (uhAkr)

356 Those white women in line for Obamaprobably have abusive husbands who hit them ocassionally but its nothis fault because he's stressed at work and stuff. He's really a great guy though.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 05:37 PM (m2CN7)

357 I am LOVING that Denny's will actually list the 5% price increase as a line item "Obamacare Surcharge" to their customers.

I'd make it larger. This will be used as PR, "it only costs 5% more for full coverage in this country? What a good deal we've struck for you."

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 05:37 PM (FcR7P)

358 Bronco Bama: B-25
US Economy: Kid Sampson

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 05:37 PM (4h0z0)

359 Jon Bon Jovi's daughter is off the hook in her heroin case.

Stephanie Bongiovi, 19, won't face charges after allegedly overdosing on heroin in a dorm room at Hamilton College in upstate New York, thanks to a new good Samaritan drug law passed last year, prosecutors said Thursday.

Ian Grant, 21, the male friend who called 911, also caught the same break.

"People will say she got away with murder because of who she is, but this law was passed so people don't watch somebody die because they're afraid of jail," Oneida County District Attorney Scott McNamara told the Daily News.

"And you don't want the person overdosing to say, 'No, don't call,'" he added.

He said Bongiovi would still be in hot water if she possessed a minimum of 8 ounces of heroin, but she did not.

"It was an insignicant amount. Heroin does not weigh that much in the first place," he told The News.

The decision means the co-eds can toss the tickets ordering them to appear in court Dec. 4.

"We're prohibited by law from prosecuting," McNamara said. "We had no other choice but to dismiss the case."

Police said Wednesday that Bongiovi, the only daughter of the legendary rocker, was unresponsive when help arrived at the Dunham Hall dorm shortly before 2 a.m.

She was rushed to a hospital as investigators found heroin at the scene and recovered marijuana and glassine envelopes after obtaining a search warrant.

She was charged with misdemeanor possession of heroin, misdemeanor marijuana possession, criminally using drug paraphernalia, police said.

Grant was booked at the Kirkland police station on misdemeanor drug posession and released back to Hamilton.


Yup that'll teach her. And for the record I went to Hamilton.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:38 PM (79ueO)

360 This will somehow be blamed on President Romney. They are that insane.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 15, 2012 05:36 PM (uhAkr)

This will be blamed on the House. Boner is so stupid he will1) Capitulate2) Still get blamed because things will still go to shitOnly the GOP can fail this completely.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:38 PM (zpqa2)

361 350 I am LOVING that Denny's will actually list the 5% price increase as a line item "Obamacare Surcharge" to their customers.

-------

So.... am I expected to include the 5% ObamaCare fee in the portion of the bill I use to calculate my tip? I'm fuzzy on this tipping manners thing.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at November 15, 2012 05:38 PM (FzhYM)

362
@ 349
Yeah, he will always need another 4 years. Just as the Marxian/Socialists will do it the right way the next time they get control of a country. Or Jennifer Granholm's jobs and recovery are just a couple years away. I'm starting to see a pattern. "We on the left are incompetent and fuck up everything we touch, but we will get it right in the future!"

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:39 PM (VDovR)

363 354 and 344:

EXACTLY!!!! Why Romney didn't pound the table hard about this is beyond me. Let's look at the facts:
Reagan faced:
1) No stimulus
2) Fed rates at 15%
3) Oil crisis
4) Double digit inflation
5) UE moving above 10%
And yet, in JUST TWO YEARS, all these problems had been tamed and what followed was the longest period of consecutive GDP growth since those numbers were recorded. We added an ENTIRE West Germany to the US economy (at a time when WG was the world's 3rd largest economy). The economy was rocking.
Obama had the following help:
1) Fed rate at 0%
2) No inflation
3) No oil crisis
4) $6T in new debt
5) $1T in stimulus
6) shit tons of tax cuts/payroll taxes, cash for clunkers, whatever
AND WITH ALL THAT, this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure still can't put the economy on the right track. And you wonder why!

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 15, 2012 05:39 PM (tVTLU)

364 I am LOVING that Denny's will actually list the 5% price increase as a line item "Obamacare Surcharge" to their customers.


I hope all retailers and restaurants follow suit. Show the assholes what they bought.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 15, 2012 05:40 PM (QKKT0)

365 I'd make it larger. This will be used as PR, "it only costs 5% more for
full coverage in this country? What a good deal we've struck for you."


*****

I see exactly what you're saying, but they're being honest with the numbers.

That's 5% spread out over all customers to cover what's left of a FT staff after cuts and hours reductions.

I'm guessing they will have LOTS of opportunities to explain themselves.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2012 05:40 PM (piMMO)

366 I also thought Romney made a mistake by letting Obama's "I inherited a terrible economy" excuse go unchallenged, or even worse, agree with it.

Obama didn't "inherit" a terrible economy, he helped to create it, by pushing all those stupid government policies to "expand" home ownership by forcing banks to give mortgage loans to unqualified minority borrowers, and by having FM/FM buy up millions of those bad mortgages.

Romney had many chances to educate low-information voters about Obama's role, but he never did.

Posted by: Observer at November 15, 2012 05:41 PM (/sohm)

367 Yup that'll teach her. And for the record I went to Hamilton.

On the other hand, I'd think that nearly dying from an overdose would be a slightly greater incentive to quit than paying a fine or community service.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:41 PM (SY2Kh)

368 edj, yes, that’s a great proposal.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 15, 2012 05:41 PM (QF8uk)

369 I hope all retailers and restaurants follow suit. Show the assholes what they bought.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 15, 2012 05:40 PM (QKKT0)

I wish I could do that, but I bet my patients would go bat shit crazy.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (79ueO)

370 Denny's could take it further:

2006 Grand Slam Breakfast only $2.99*!

* add $7 for Democrat energy policy surcharge, Ben Bernanke devaluation of the dollar, and costs of compliance with Obamacare legislation

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (FcR7P)

371 I want signs on the drugstore shelves too "this medicine is no longer available thanks to Obama administration regulations, revenge against non-Obama donors in the pharma industry,ObamaCare, or a combination of all of the above."

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (RZ8pf)

372
@332 Observer

Universal sufferage needs to be rethought.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (f+TdG)

373 So.... am I expected to include the 5% ObamaCare fee in the portion of
the bill I use to calculate my tip? I'm fuzzy on this tipping manners
thing.


*****

It's Denny's so if you somehow manage to run up a $100 bill on waffles and chicken, don't fret the extra $1 in tip it will cost you.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (piMMO)

374 Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp. ------------- I'd love to be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins.
Posted by: Farmer Joe
-------------------------------------

No Joe, you rise from the ashes and dominate the ruins.

You build again..........the right fuckin' way.

Geez, there is some awfully week fucking tea out there talking about trees across roadways and who will remove them if we Let It Burn............and lamenting life among the ruins as if they still have no control over their lives.

It's really pathetic.

Posted by: But How Will My Amazon Purchases Get To Me?! at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (AzwZn)

375 366, yup.

Romney needed to destroy the "failed policies of the past," bullshit.

Europe tried it and now they regret it.
Bush didn't sue citicorp to give loans to bad risks, you did.
etc.
repeat

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (QxSug)

376 Comcast is featuring an anti-Romney story on its home page


Secret Patriots --- heh

Posted by: Bag in Baghdad at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (Dll6b)

377 On the other hand, I'd think that nearly dying from an overdose would be
a slightly greater incentive to quit than paying a fine or community
service.


Yeah. Look what it did for Amy Winehouse.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (kqqGm)

378 Still no update at the Hostess site.

I wonder if the union finally blinked.

http://www.hostessstrike.info/

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2012 05:44 PM (piMMO)

379 On the other hand, I'd think that nearly dying from an overdose would be a slightly greater incentive to quit than paying a fine or community service.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:41 PM (SY2Kh)


Wanna bet? How about a big fine, a criminal record, and a summer stint in jail ( so it doesn't interrupt her important studies????)

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:44 PM (79ueO)

380 It took a little more than two years for the economy to recover under Reagan though the recovery signs were evident and moving forward.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 05:44 PM (m2CN7)

381 It's a good thing tampons are edible or else the next 4 years were gonna be rough.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 15, 2012 05:44 PM (X/+QT)

382 Geez, there is some awfully week fucking tea out
there talking about trees across roadways and who will remove them if we
Let It Burn............and lamenting life among the ruins as if they
still have no control over their lives.



It's really pathetic.

Posted by: But How Will My Amazon Purchases Get To Me?! at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (AzwZn)

Boom. Hallelujah, brother.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 05:44 PM (zpqa2)

383 Funny how we get IDF videos within a day or 2, but can't see the Benghazi footage. Things that make you go Hmmmm.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 15, 2012 05:44 PM (UU0OF)

384
370 Denny's could take it further:

2006 Grand Slam Breakfast only $2.99*!

* add $7 for Democrat energy policy surcharge, Ben Bernanke devaluation of the dollar, and costs of compliance with Obamacare legislation

-------------

I love this.

Oh gawd, I hope lots of retailers start doing something like this.

Because if they don't...they are just setting themselves up for being demonized by the Leftist spin machine.

Posted by: wheatie at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (ICEh3)

385
From Breitbart.com: " Pro Hamas Tel Aviv Rally Broken Up by Hamas Rocket "


That might be something more than karma.

Posted by: Stormy at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (wOv9x)

386 The long list of excuses that this Administration has used is breathtaking

From my very simple memory.....
1. Bush
2. Europe
3. Two wars on a credit card
4. Japaneese Sunami
5. Middle East instability
6. Tonsil stealing doctors
7. Drought
I'm sure I have missed a few

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (OWjjx)

387 Universal sufferage needs to be rethought.

It can be re-thought all you like, but politically there's exactly zero chance that voting rights will be restricted.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (SY2Kh)

388
@ 354
You missed the point, troll. A shitty economy can and has been turned into a booming economy in 2 years. I wasn't comparing Romney to Reagan or anyone else. Just saying he should have made the point that if an incompetent Obama couldn't fix the economy in his first 4 years, then 4 more wasn't gonna help. As we are all living the continued failure of King Barry now.

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (VDovR)

389 I'm sure I have missed a few

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (OWjjx)


You forgot the evil, evil ATM's.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2012 05:46 PM (X6akg)

390 I'm sure I have missed a few

ATMs.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (kqqGm)

391
327 @ 299"Conservative's sole objective should be to make sure that Americans understand that Democratic policies are to blame."This is why the House should roll over. Otherwise you know who will get blamed.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid


If they do roll over, they should make it clear that they are only doing it because the President is holding our defense hostage and that they think the President's policies will tank the economy. And they should repeat that over and over and over again.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (ZMzpb)

392 @389...you are right, the evil ATMs!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (OWjjx)

393 329
OT question, does misty=curious? Because if so the hash change to
"JIZfic" was hilarious. If not, less funny. But still giggle worthy.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 15, 2012 05:28 PM (RZ8pf)



Ha! I was wondering the same thing, except she said she didn't know how to post links.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (UOM48)

394 You forgot the evil, evil ATM's.

This machine is calling me an asshole!

(See video at link if you're sane enough not to get the reference.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (QF8uk)

395 IT'S BUSH'S FAULT !!!

Posted by: Baron Münchhausen at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (e8kgV)

396 Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (VDovR)

Settle down Francis.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 05:48 PM (m2CN7)

397 388, I don't think 354 is a troll. But I am reposting this because the facts are incredibly shocking.

EXACTLY!!!! Why Romney didn't pound the table hard about this is beyond me. Let's look at the facts: Reagan faced: 1) No stimulus 2) Fed rates at 15% 3) Oil crisis 4) Double digit inflation 5) UE moving above 10% And yet, in JUST TWO YEARS, all these problems had been tamed and what followed was the longest period of consecutive GDP growth since those numbers were recorded. We added an ENTIRE West Germany to the US economy (at a time when WG was the world's 3rd largest economy). The economy was rocking. Obama had the following help: 1) Fed rate at 0% 2) No inflation 3) No oil crisis 4) $6T in new debt 5) $1T in stimulus 6) shit tons of tax cuts/payroll taxes, cash for clunkers, whatever AND WITH ALL THAT, this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure still can't put the economy on the right track. And you wonder why!

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 15, 2012 05:48 PM (tVTLU)

398 387 Universal sufferage needs to be rethought.

It can be re-thought all you like, but politically there's exactly zero chance that voting rights will be restricted.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (SY2Kh)


In fact, they'll be increased, just like the chocolate rations!

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 15, 2012 05:48 PM (xSSU6)

399 U.S. Postal Service Loses Record $15.9 Billion...

Such efficiency! Let's hand our health care over to those guys.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 05:49 PM (4h0z0)

400 I think Ace is all petered out for the day. 400+ comments and no new post.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 15, 2012 05:49 PM (kqqGm)

401 I want to see tears in liberals' eyes as they finally realize what they have wrought.

Posted by: pre-mium cat food at November 15, 2012 05:49 PM (x9s9/)

402 43
Global recession/depression. Inflation. Declining standard of living.
What happens next? We start looking for people to blame. Then someone
emerges who articulates the blame laying.



Then there's a war.



This is where we're headed.

Posted by: Farmer Joe

****

Looking for someone to blame? Well, the Joos are always handy.

Posted by: Godwin's Lawyer at November 15, 2012 05:49 PM (Xv7f/)

403 His ears must have been burning.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (kqqGm)

404 @371

I wish the makers of tampons would put on the front of the boxes that the price of the product is now going up -- thanks to Obamacare (that section imposing new taxes on medical devices includes a new tax on stuff like tampons too).

It's all part of the stealth Republican war on wimmens!

Posted by: Observer at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (/sohm)

405 400, we are all petered out for sure. fucking a.

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (tVTLU)

406 And I would have gotten away with it too, were it not for you meddling ATMs.

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (xSSU6)

407 U.S. Postal Service Loses Record $15.9 Billion...

Such efficiency! Let's hand our health care over to those guys.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 05:49 PM (4h0z0)


But you are, you are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (79ueO)

408
Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp. ------------- I'd love to
be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins.

Something to keep in mind: the leftists their supporters live mostly in cities
Think of all the horrible natural and man made disasters that can happen.
Earthquakes, hurricanes, famines, terrorist attacks, missile strikes, whatever ...
Where is their worst impact?
That's right - usually in the cities.

Historians are forever going to argue over why so many people voted against their own best interests.

Posted by: RayJ at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (pI/IV)

409
@ 396
Don't call me Francis. Nobody calls me Francis. Any of you guys call me Francis, I'll kill ya.

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 05:50 PM (VDovR)

410 388 needs to learn how to read. I was making fun of SCOAMF and his pathetic cries for help.

If you listened to Rush on Monday before election and the week before election, you'd hear Obama basically claim to have cut the deficit and other things that maybe Bill Clinton could take credit for (although he should give thanks to Gingrich for forcing him to be president with those budgets).

That's kinda distrurbing it shows that Obama has no concept of what is reality.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:51 PM (QxSug)

411 It's a good thing tampons are edible or else the next 4 years were gonna be rough.

Hey, tampons are useful for plugging bullet holes. If you had elected that cretin Romney then tampons would be outlawed and how would you stop the bleeding after getting shot by looters?!

Posted by: Alex at November 15, 2012 05:51 PM (3x3F6)

412 On a happy note, I just made homemade tollhouse cookies.....who wants some.......anyone

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 15, 2012 05:51 PM (OWjjx)

413 I'm trying to eliminate from my shopping list,as many companies as possible that supported King Barky.

So no more Wal-Mart, and no more Costco. I've been using the photo finishing center at Costco when I print photos, but I'm done with them.

Are there any non-foaming at the mouth lib companies for photo printing? Is Shutterfly a good place? Or some other on-line option?

Libs want to boycott Chik-Fil-A and Dennys, fine. I can play that game too.

Posted by: Boots at November 15, 2012 05:51 PM (neKzn)

414 "the leftists and their supporters"

Posted by: RayJ at November 15, 2012 05:52 PM (pI/IV)

415 Because if so the hash change to
"JIZfic" was hilarious.


It gets better..
Bing does a search ....
No results found for JIZfic ace of spades.
Showing results for jizzface ace of spades.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 05:52 PM (feFL6)

416 387

"It can be re-thought all you like, but politically there's exactly zero chance that voting rights will be restricted."Sure pops. Because people voting themselves more lagress from the public treasury ensures a stable republic. Heh.LIB

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at November 15, 2012 05:52 PM (f+TdG)

417 391
327 @ 299"Conservative's sole objective should be to make sure that Americans understand that Democratic policies are to blame."This is why the House should roll over. Otherwise you know who will get blamed.
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid

If they do roll over, they should make it clear that they are only doing it because the President is holding our defense hostage and that they think the President's policies will tank the economy. And they should repeat that over and over and over again.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (ZMzpb)

-----

And to make that point clear, they need to pass the "big bird act" ensuring PBS funding through 2016, "the contraceptive stimulus act" mailing every citizen a condom, and the "no binder left behind act" prohibiting federal employees to utilize a binder with any aspect of human capital.

Then hold a news conference and say they've heard the voters and passed everything Obama was given a mandate to do in his campaign.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 05:53 PM (QbKVX)

418 It gets better..

Bing does a search ....

No results found for JIZfic ace of spades.

Showing results for jizzface ace of spades.


****

big LOL

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 15, 2012 05:53 PM (piMMO)

419 374 Personally, I'm all in the "let it burn" camp. ------------- I'd love to be, but the problem is, we've got to live in the ruins.
Posted by: Farmer Joe
-------------------------------------

No Joe, you rise from the ashes and dominate the ruins.

You build again..........the right fuckin' way.

Geez, there is some awfully week fucking tea out there talking about trees across roadways and who will remove them if we Let It Burn............and lamenting life among the ruins as if they still have no control over their lives.

It's really pathetic.
Posted by: But How Will My Amazon Purchases Get To Me?! at November 15, 2012 05:42 PM (AzwZn)


Trees across the roadway.....

Seriously.

What, someone never leaves their home outside of the comfort of their climate controlled transportation device?

Weak tea indeed. How's that vaginal soreness doin' Cyndee lou?

It would appear we need to let it burn to clean out the gene pool and allow Darwin to do that voodoo that he do.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 15, 2012 05:54 PM (DvBku)

420 399 WCL,

happy thought for the day....the postal guys at least have to face the music from the voters....IPAB is the post office without having to face mommy and daddy voter at all.

YAY

Pleasant nightmares.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:54 PM (LRFds)

421 Look onthe bright side, Paul Ryan's brutal assault on Grandma can now be properly discharged on Obama's fiscal cliff.

Posted by: Fritz at November 15, 2012 05:55 PM (mqdAz)

422 Another point, if you guys recall the 80's, you will recall that conservatives had talking points, arguments that even lefties were aware of and had to counter.

The MSM wasn't any friendlier back then.

Tort reform
Reverse Discrimination
Unfunded Mandates
School choice
vouchers
Problems with socialized medicine

all sorts of things that people knew about. We need to figure out how to do that again.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 05:56 PM (QxSug)

423 On a happy note, I just made homemade tollhouse cookies.....who wants some.......anyone

OMG how could you the Keebler Elf probably voted Obama like all the other hippie celebrities and you're supporting him. RINO!!!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:56 PM (SY2Kh)

424 @409- okay then. Lighten up Louie. Lighten up.

I do so miss those Budweiser commercials.
But the E-Trade ones with the talking babies kind of make up for it.

Bobby. Hey Bobby. What are you doin'?

I'm speed dating.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 15, 2012 05:56 PM (M7Cfv)

425 U.S. Postal Service Loses Record $15.9 Billion...

Poor guys, they weren't losing any money before the elections. Talk about one hell of a bad week!

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 05:56 PM (FcR7P)

426
We need the fiscal cliff. More people will be paying taxes, and that will change the way they look at govt.


Burn, Let It.


I need to look into Israeli stocks. They are about to fight their own World War. They are preparing the battlefield today. After they destroy the arab infrastructure, I can invest in the international companies that will rebuild it so the arabs can let it deteriorate.


Interesting times require creativity. I'm good at creativity. I'm an American.

Posted by: Meremortal says Starve The Beast, Go Galt at November 15, 2012 05:57 PM (1Y+hH)

427 402 Godwin's Lawyer,

No they donate too much....we need someone new that we allege are being bred into oblivion.....

hey I know we'll blame white racist redneck Teahadists....

//moonbat

Hey sweetheart we got the guns.

//new would be made to be victim class.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:57 PM (LRFds)

428 Romney had many chances to educate low-information voters about Obama's role, but he never did.

---

I have to agree here. Maybe he was just trying to not make any waves, not rock any boats and just be the guy that wasn't the miserable, failed, incompetent choom smoker we've been saddled to for the last four years. I was always a little irked that Romney wasn't very good at truly articulating a conservative stance. Being the other guy wasn't enough, apparently.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 15, 2012 05:57 PM (lTVJy)

429 It's almost as if Socialism is failing all over the world...



It's almost as if Socialism is a SCoaMF.

Bit Later.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at November 15, 2012 05:58 PM (hhVWg)

430 For accuracy's sake , we were still in a recession in 1982 and the unemployment rate in 1983 was still 9.6 %. The difference is that you could see and feel the economy moving forward with the confidence that theseReagan policies were growth policies favorable to businesses. Businesses reacted accordingly and it snowballed from there.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 05:59 PM (m2CN7)

431 In October, 1978, Barky's senior year of high school, John Paul II was elected Pope. In December of his freshman year of college, the Soviets rolled into Afghanistan. The next summer, in August, 1981, while Barky was hanging in Pakistan, a 36 year old electrician went over the wall in Gdansk. Eleven year later, when Barky was just finishing law school, there was no more USSR.

Think it can't happen again? Think it can't happen here?

The only new thing under the sun is the history you don't know.



Posted by: Leonid's ghost at November 15, 2012 05:59 PM (Xv7f/)

432 422 JoeinDc,

Not disagreeing or overangsting but my dad when I pointed a few of those out was pissed we didn't get in done in 1992-2006....

he voted he just seems to think the democrats weren't in care of a filibuster....

I dunno ti is like the GOP is expected to get shit done and Bonk O Bammy and friends just have to care.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 05:59 PM (LRFds)

433 Boots, you could print your own. Lexmark has good printers that with the glossy paper turn out amazing photos.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 15, 2012 06:00 PM (UU0OF)

434 431 Leonid's Ghost,

I'm not even sure I see that outcome as a bad one anymore.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 06:00 PM (LRFds)

435 in hindsight, George HW Bush should have kiss Perot's ass for months on end to keep him from running and splitting the GOP vote, giving Clinton a plurality win.

of course, now, the donks in congress are lockstep voters. There aren't any blue dogs left.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:02 PM (QxSug)

436 joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:02 PM (QxSug)

There would be no ass kissing. Perot for some reason had a personal dislike of Bush Sr.

Don't know if the reverse was true.

Posted by: polynikes at November 15, 2012 06:04 PM (m2CN7)

437 It can be re-thought all you like, but politically there's exactly zero chance that voting rights will be restricted.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 05:45 PM (SY2Kh)

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised ifvoting rightswere restricted in the near future. TheseSOBs love power, and they don't want to give it up. You'll see articles about howpure democracy is inefficient and incapable of dealing with modern problems. They'll claim thatpower needs to be centralized into the hands oftechnocrats. Remove military officers who might oppose you, and then use some crisis as cover for suspending elections.

Posted by: Alex at November 15, 2012 06:05 PM (3x3F6)

438 Hey, tampons are useful for plugging bullet holes.

In fact, that was their original use...I don't recall exactly when they were invented, but they were used in the Civil War. WWI, some field nurse tired of washing out her linen rags said "Hey...lemme have some of those things" and a few years later Kotex took the then-scandalous step of advertising them in ladies' magazines.

(Anyone know where I left my car keys?)

Posted by: HeatherRadish knows too much at November 15, 2012 06:06 PM (/kI1Q)

439 @436 well, there went the empire. Bill Jeff's first act (or last act of 1996 before election) was to flood California with at least a million new, replacement Americans.

Let's see how much you like election 2014 when Obama dumps about a million Saudis in Lexington, KY, complete with Obamaphones and hatecrime legislation forbidding anyone from even noticing their arrival.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:09 PM (QxSug)

440 437 Alex,

They have made serious court cases saying that Hispanics and blacks should have weighted voted to "remove the skew" on race.


They want a race war I think.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 06:09 PM (LRFds)

441 The MSM wasn't any friendlier back then.

Tort reform
Reverse Discrimination
Unfunded Mandates
School choice
vouchers
Problems with socialized medicine


The truly sad thing this election is, if you put 'Gov. Perry +' in front of any one of those topics in a Google/Bing search I'd venture you'd find that he actually had dealt with those issues in Texas. Which is why my wife no longer has a competent gynecologist in Pa, but a couple or three who reside in a TX address. I can't blame them, I'd have done the same thing.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 06:10 PM (feFL6)

442 yeah, bitching about immigration and suffrage isn't relevant right now. Except if some future archaeologist digging around tries to figure out why America collapsed.

We had 40 years since 1965 to do something about immigration and our parents had zero balls to do so. But it's helpful to know why demographics are screwing us. It's on purpose and it's malicious.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:10 PM (QxSug)

443 439 JoeinDC,

It's why the nation is done.

Obarky wants it that way and I will too at that point or he can let me import everyone I want as well.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 06:10 PM (LRFds)

444 **Which is why my wife no longer has a competent gynecologist in Pa, but a couple or three who reside in a TX address. I can't blame them, I'd have done the same thing.**

which is probably why my lefty friends forward articles screeching about how awful Perry is for women.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:11 PM (QxSug)

445 Sigh, Rick Perry, the last great GOP politician. We'll never know you.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:14 PM (QxSug)

446
I love the burn it down idea, but I'm worried it will never happen. I've been waiting for the Obamacalypse for four years, but instead we just keep limping along. Iran keeps building a bomb. Europe hasn't broken up.

When is it all going to happen?

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 15, 2012 06:15 PM (QyMDY)

447 which is probably why my lefty friends forward articles screeching about how awful Perry is for women.

I don't view a visit to the Dr in the same category as scratching the covering off a million dollar lottery ticket. I'm not there to make money in a future multi-million dollar lawsuit but to get something fixed. Apparently, my thinking is knuckle-dragging Neanderthal in We're All Victims/NewAmerica (tm).

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 06:19 PM (feFL6)

448
which is probably why my lefty friends forward articles screeching about how awful Perry is for women.

What, does he make the abortionists use sterile instruments?

Posted by: HeatherRadish knows too much at November 15, 2012 06:20 PM (/kI1Q)

449 Actually the whole stock market decline can be explained by severe drop in binder sales.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at November 15, 2012 06:22 PM (qwK3S)

450 Prepping is all well and good, but it's merely a foundation, not a house.

When civil societies hit hard times, they fall to their level of their highest communal institution. In Iraq, we saw that there was nothing between the State and the Mosque, so when the State fell, people sorted themselves by ethnic / religious status, and gravitated towards their religious leaders. Tribal identity, religious antagonism and ethnic grievance was what people identified with, and that's where they accumulated.

It may be a structural weakness of rugged individualists, but we tend not to factionalize well. Nor was it necessary. For the last 200 years, we had the context of the Constitution to all live under. A live-and-let live mechanism that served a free people quite well. We don't see ourselves as tribal or ethnic Americans, just Americans, and find hyphenated Americans somehow odd.

Once the Constitution goes, we're going to find ourselves adrift in a nation where the opposition finds factionalism all too easy. They will have the advantage organizationally over pockets of disparate preppers who intend to get by on their own pluck and resolve. That's the real consideration of the 'Let It Burn' phase. The most organized will have the advantage. Whether the burn ends in tyranny or rejuvenation will depend on how all parties weather impact with the crash, and what their goals will be going forward.

Prepping is necessary, but survival plans without a political plan just means you'll be better fed than average as you're marched into a reeducation camp.

Posted by: Artemus Khan, Supervillain Billionaire Layabout-at-Large at November 15, 2012 06:23 PM (k1vsl)

451 (for real) I got a letter in the mail today offering me a free ObamaPhone...

...still waiting on the free condoms offers.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 15, 2012 06:23 PM (Ll5gC)

452 no, the shrill hate filled lefties just hate the GOP

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:24 PM (QxSug)

453 2013 = 1936

As Einstein said, WWIII will be fought with nuclear weapons, and WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

Posted by: We're all gonna die at November 15, 2012 06:32 PM (jsnVh)

454 When 75% of O's total vote count is willing to wait in a line for 5 hrs for section 8 housing vouchers but refuse to work, we can't win

Posted by: L, just L at November 15, 2012 06:35 PM (0PiQ4)

455 sad but true, I don't know how I got to live during Reagan heyday and now see cultural confidence dip to zero as we plunge into Great Depression 2.0.

Just think, the JFK-Reagan-Bush the W revolution were just a mere operational pause in FDR's Operation Soviet America.

We are back in 1933

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:36 PM (QxSug)

456 Even Clinton the triangulator was part of the Reagan period of prosperity (thanks to Newt G.).

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:37 PM (QxSug)

457 Hey "He's a Mooslim" Allow me to Rub this in-

from a poster named Armando on the day of the election:

whatever happens now, you own it.
When the economy collapses, you own it. When the United States goes
bankrupt, you own it. When the dollar is no longer the world's reserve
currency, you own it. When a barrel of oil is over $200, you own it.
When unemployment is over 25%, you own it. When Iran starts World War
III and puts Israel under a bucket of sunshine (Samson Option, anyone?),
you own it. When China turns east Asia into its own collection of
suzerainties, you own it.

Good night, and good luck. You're going to need it.


Posted by: Armando at November 06, 2012 10:32 PM

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 15, 2012 06:37 PM (T8WRP)

458 450 AK,

Our Constiution need not go if anything one can make the argument that we are the ones taking the founding with us.

I am very serious about "when you reach your breaking point run red."

The more concentrated the red is the easier a transition we'll have and make no mistake even if a peaceful transition you'll be looking at ~3-5 years on the lowball side and maybe 5-10.

What you need to aks yourself is what is my "no more" point?

Obarka is not about maintaining what was at all.

Jugeared freak thinks he is the first Obamican or whateever the fuck....I don't want a post founders America I want a post SCOAMF America.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 06:42 PM (LRFds)

459 If America were leading the world economy, chugging along like a magnificent locomotive, we'd pull Europe out of recession, and everyone else besides.

Like we did with east Asia in the late 90s. Gosh, the good old days.

Posted by: BuddyPC at November 15, 2012 06:46 PM (jfUIE)

460 fools, economy what?

We are borrowing $1.3 trillion a year to push the economy ahead at a slow pace.

That money is coming allegedly from Asia but also from the Fed printing money to buy that debt with.

We are so fucked.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 06:51 PM (QxSug)

461 They are never going to stop making excuses for Obama (and Pelosi and Ried)

They will never "own" the problem, no matter what the problem is.

Their worldview is non-falsifiable

Norma Desmond is in charge.

Better make sure you are not Joe Gillis.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at November 15, 2012 07:04 PM (gsPPG)

462 Locomotives run on oil and coal. They're evil.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 15, 2012 07:18 PM (Ll5gC)

463 462 PA,

Obamamotives run on unicorn gas and candy canes....

they're good old boy

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 07:19 PM (LRFds)

464 **T question, does misty=curious? Because if so the hash change to
"JIZfic" was hilarious. If not, less funny. But still giggle worthy.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 15, 2012 05:28 PM (RZ8pf)


Ha! I was wondering the same thing, except she said she didn't know how to post links.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 05:47 PM (UOM4**Who is curious and what is JIZfic and why is that funny?All I posted was a link to Obama's plan to confiscate 401ks. Is that wrong?

Posted by: misty at November 15, 2012 07:53 PM (JIZ1c)

465 With Sandra F on the scene, we're pulling a train, for sure!

Posted by: Model-1066 at November 15, 2012 08:43 PM (NoDnj)

466 torquewrench

You can blame this on Romney if you choose. He did not "Attack" Obama.
I blame it on the "Purists" that sat of their fat asses because Romney was not "Conservative Enough" for those dick-bags.
I'd have voted for a "Ham Sandwich" rather than let the JEF have another term.
A "Ham Sandwich" would have done less damage.

Now we have to deal with it.
L I B...

Posted by: ChrisP at November 15, 2012 09:03 PM (G+4K3)






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