Media Distressed To Learn That Democrats Are Quite Serious About Their Shameful Pandering on Entitlements

Before the election -- long before -- I had a fantasy. It went like this:

It has long been a mark of the Smart Set to acknowledge the distressing problem of financing our entitlement systems. For decades, a pundit on the pages of the Washington Post could make his rent by writing the same basic column once a month -- "While these nincompooops in DC argue about this or that temporary trivia, everyone ignores the real problem, which is that, due to the Baby Boom followed by a very long Baby Bust, there are too few workers to support the ever-growing cohort of retired folks, and this problem will get worse and worse every year until we either do something about it or we don't, in which case the system collapses catastrophically."

Even liberals who didn't understand math (which is most of them) knew that the Smarter Folks who did understand math were quite certain this was a problem, and so echoed their concerns.

When the Republican Party -- first in the form of Paul Ryan, then in the form of Mitt Romney, who substantially embraced his ideas -- began talking about serious reforms -- unpopular but necessary -- I had a fantasy that the media's Smart Set, which has long cherished its unearned reputation as the Smart Set, would at the very least remember the things they'd been saying and writing for 15, 20, 30 years and perhaps admit that Romney and Ryan had a pretty strong point, and anyone arguing against them was simply unserious.

This, of course, did not happen. Obama, while making soft, vague noises about reform, never laid out an actual plan or proposal for it, and in fact campaigned almost exclusively on the meaningless bromide "a balanced approach." His only concrete idea was to raise taxes on the rich, but that could only raise $80 billion per year, and even that assumes that the higher taxes would not dampen the taxable base (and thus mean that a higher tax rate brings in less actual revenue than projected).

So here we are. Obama has been reelected without any mandate for critical reform. In fact, his buffoonish incompetent of a Vice President vowed in August, campaign season, that Social Security would not even be touched.

On the same trip to southern Virginia, Mr. Biden wandered into the Coffee Break Cafe in Stuart. According to the White House pool report, when a diner there said, “I’m glad you all are not talking about doing anything with Social Security,” Mr. Biden responded: “Hey, by the way, let’s talk about Social Security. Number one, I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security. I flat guarantee you.”

Why is this so depressing? Because, as Mr. Biden knows, Social Security is going broke. If “no changes” are made, then by 2033 the program will not be able to pay benefits as promised.

He said that stupid thing in the same trip he said another stupid thing -- that "dey gon' put y'all back in chains" -- so he was once again the beneficiary, as he so often is, of covering up his serious incompetencies and stupidities with less serious but even more risible incompetencies and stupidities, thus covering up the fact that he is, in fact, seriously incompetent and stupid.

Harry Reid, who is about as far from a Statesman as a Cowboy Poetry is from Shakespeare, pandered on this issue for years before the election (and the last one) and, shockingly enough, continues pandering post-election.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Wednesday that he will not allow changes in Social Security to be part of the negotiations to avoid a federal budget fiscal cliff, further narrowing the opportunities for savings that could be tapped to close the deficit.

Republicans have insisted that big entitlement programs such as Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid be part of the end-of-year negotiations to head off tax-rate increases and the $110 billion in automatic spending cuts. …

“Social Security is not part of the problem, That’s one of the myths the Republicans have tried to create,” he said. “Social Security is sound for the next many years. But we want to make sure that in the outer years people are protected also, but it’s not going to be part of the budget talks, as far as I’m concerned.” …

“I’m giving you my personal feelings about where we need to go. Take care of the middle class and have the richest of the rich contribute a little bit to helping our economy,” he said.

No one has explained to him that $80 billion per year is not equal to our $1.whatever trillion per year deficit. It's less than 1%.

Now comes the Washington Post, after fighting assiduously to re-elect the team pandering on entitlements, slandering and lying -- I'm sorry, I mean "Fact-Checking" -- the team which told the truth about entitlements, to impotently object that "entitlements must be on the table."

They have no credibility on the issue. If this was such an important issue-- which they remember to say again after the election -- why did they work so hard to elect the Party determined to pander and offer nothing but Mathematical Fantasies? When it comes to pandering, their mouths say "No" but their eyes say "Yes yes yes," and the Democrats know it.

AS BIPARTISAN negotiations over avoiding the “fiscal cliff” draw nearer, many of President Obama’s core Democratic supporters are urging him to fix the debt through defense cuts and tax increases rather than by tackling Social Security, Medicare and other federal entitlement programs. It’s a reprise of progressive resistance to the entitlement trims Mr. Obama contemplated during the abortive debt-reduction negotiations with House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) last year. This time, though, the Democratic base is claiming vindication in the just-completed election.

Fair enough. Mr. Obama won on a pledge to raise more revenue from the wealthy, and labor unions and like-minded groups provided much of the funding and many of the foot soldiers for his campaign. Nevertheless, on this he must tell his political base no. Any serious debt-reduction plan has to include revenue and defense cuts. But no serious one can exclude entitlements.

...

At his news conference Wednesday, President Obama called for “a serious look at how we reform our entitlements,” advocated “compromise” and pronounced himself “ready and willing to make big commitments” on debt reduction. Sounds like a man who understands what is needed.

Yes, a man who understands what is needed, and yet has not submitted a single proposal for what is needed, and also forgot to tell his top allies the Vice President and the Majority Leader of the Senate what is needed.

Part of the reason I had this fantasy -- this fantasy that the press would actually stand up, for once, for something besides liberalism -- was Mickey Kaus' oft-repeated assertion that the press are, or at least consider themselves to be, "Secret Patriots." And that while they have a liberal bias, they also have a bias towards patriotism -- statesmanship -- which can sometimes check their bias towards liberalism.

I just watched an entire political campaign in which the media never criticized nor pressed Obama on his inaction and failure to present a plan on entitlements, nor made any serious effort to criticize the idiots around him who were vowing -- vowing, promising -- that entitlements would be entirely untouched.

Secret Patriots? No. Simply liberals. When it comes to the country versus liberalism, they will, as we thought, simply choose liberalism every time.

Liberalism is its own nation, its own farflung tribe, its own Fifth Column within any country it infests. The "patriotism" postulated by Kaus is simply a loyalty to the Grand Progressive Cause.

It is not a patriotism of country ; it is simply a insurrection on the sly.

Posted by: Ace at 12:54 PM



Comments

1 #1?

Posted by: eureka! at November 15, 2012 12:56 PM (UL+ny)

2 Nice job Ace. In so many words, the MFM presstitutes are dishonest, leftist, partisan hacks--an affront to the First Amendment and Traitors to the Fourth Estate and U.S.

Posted by: eureka! at November 15, 2012 12:58 PM (UL+ny)

3

wow long post is long


Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 12:58 PM (VE0cN)

4
Remember when the democrats selected Sharon Angle instead of Sue Louden to face corrupt Harry Reid?

Yeah. We should stop letting democrats pick our candidates.
Democrats supported Akin, too.

Posted by: Fresh at November 15, 2012 12:59 PM (O7ksG)

5 Your post. Because racism.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 15, 2012 12:59 PM (X/+QT)

6 Hey!!



...Oh, you're right.

Posted by: Cowboy Poetics Local 4623 at November 15, 2012 12:59 PM (WmDuI)

7 We are headed towards towards what the European model has become.
Faster now more than ever.

There will be a day of reckoning and populism will rise from the ashes of our once great republic.

Posted by: Courtesy Flush at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (tkbF8)

8 Best movie review I ever read!

*golf claps*

Posted by: EC at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (GQ8sn)

9 I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (sbV1u)

10 I knew someone would say that, soothsayer. That or tl;dr.

Let me tell you what effect that has on me. It is far easier for me to just put up links and excerpts. I try not to do ONLY that, because I feel it's my job to actually try an essay once in a while.

Perhaps you guys are kidding, but I'll say this: Longer posts do in fact take more work.

If I keep getting grief about longer posts, I'll just do the thing which is the absolute easiest for any blogger -- a link and a quote.

Takes five minutes. Easy-peasy lemon squeezy. But if the thing that's actually harder is also unpopular, I will just start doing instapundit-type slugs all day long.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

But there is nothing more disappointing than actually doing an hour of work and seeing people say "We like the three minute jobs better."

Fine. If so, I'll just do that. Easier for me, better for you.

Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)

11 Excellent post.

Yet, depressing.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (UOM48)

12 Burn. Let it.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 15, 2012 01:01 PM (vpEJA)

13 I had this fantasy -- this fantasy that the press would actually stand up, for once, for something besides liberalism

---

Whoa! That makes my fantasy about Eva Braun, black silk stockings and a garter belt, and kosher ham seems realistic.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:01 PM (Hx5uv)

14 Before the election, I had a fantasy....

.... I'd get a job in the next few years and be able to keep my house.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 15, 2012 01:01 PM (X/+QT)

15 Hey, quit dissin' cowboy poetry!

Posted by: Brokedick Butthurt at November 15, 2012 01:01 PM (GdalM)

16 9 I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (sbV1u)



Closed Coffin.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (WmDuI)

17 9
I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (sbV1u



Hanging upside down?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (UOM48)

18 This is what the American mob voted for. The system's broke. Irrevokably.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (vpEJA)

19 Serious face on now...

Great write-up ace. I don't know why you still harbor these secret hopes in the media really report the truth as it is, before elections. I believe there is a cartoon of a young, bald boy trying to kick a football held by a dark-haired girl somewhere that aptly describes this.

The media = democrat sympathizers


Posted by: EC at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (GQ8sn)

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (5DR1j)

21 9
I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (sbV1u)


Probably the same as Boehner on election night.....like a baby.

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (X6akg)

22 Liberalism is an evil. I had to soul-search, Ace, and find my own core value. It's limited government. My personal manifesto. Anyone who shares that belief is in my camp. Gay marriage, abortion, whatever - if you are truly for limited government (and I'm talkin' States Rights here people - as a baseline-) then I'm on your side cause you're on mine. Details to be worked out later. If Choom-Dada wins, then I lose. I'd rather die trying to be free than go down as one of his fucking slaves.

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (BoE3Z)

23 I'm sorry...

What was the movie, and did ace like it?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:03 PM (5DR1j)

24 they're just giving you shit ace...
keep up the good work - it's needed now more than ever.

Posted by: D. Hopper at November 15, 2012 01:03 PM (AVfT8)

25 It's still a luxury for them. They don't change their tone because they don't have to. Nobody is starving in the streets. People's life savings aren't disappearing overnight. There aren't breadlines down the street and around the corner.

We're in a "recession" but it's an Easy-Bake Oven recession.

I'm not saying anything about how or why or what, just that it is. And until it's not, don't expect the members of the Liberal Choir to change their tune.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 15, 2012 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

26 We've got a mandate on big bird though, so there is that. How much of the revenue gain is absorbed by that? Then we will surely have the continuation of green energy seed money in some form or fashion.

Anyways, we are so screwed. We finally had somebody put a big issue on the table effectively with Medicare and it got shot down. Of course the Dems aren't going to wade in those waters. Why would they?

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 01:04 PM (HEWhR)

27 I just can't believe how fast Ace can write an excellent post.


Posted by: rdbrewer at November 15, 2012 01:04 PM (Iyg03)

28 Let me tell you what effect that has on me. It is far easier for me to
just put up links and excerpts. I try not to do ONLY that, because I
feel it's my job to actually try an essay once in a while.



Perhaps you guys are kidding, but I'll say this: Longer posts do in fact take more work.



If I keep getting grief about longer posts, I'll just do the thing
which is the absolute easiest for any blogger -- a link and a quote.



Takes five minutes. Easy-peasy lemon squeezy. But if the thing
that's actually harder is also unpopular, I will just start doing
instapundit-type slugs all day long.



Not that there's anything wrong with that.



But there is nothing more disappointing than actually doing an hour
of work and seeing people say "We like the three minute jobs better."



Fine. If so, I'll just do that. Easier for me, better for you.



See my post above.

We're just fucking with you to be funny! Ofcourse we appreciate the long posts with deep analysis. Please don't stop them. The only suggestion I would make is to put up a teaser, then the bulk of your post under a link to open up. It helps keep the blog looking cleaner.

Posted by: EC at November 15, 2012 01:04 PM (GQ8sn)

29 I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.

On beds of crony capitalist kickback money?

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at November 15, 2012 01:04 PM (BrQrN)

30 Hey, who would have thought Marxism doesn't work? I mean it's work everywhere else it's been tried. Amirite or amirite?

Posted by: Wash Post, NYT, et.al. at November 15, 2012 01:04 PM (vpEJA)

31 9 I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (sbV1u)

$200 million in the bank does wonders for one's sleep.

Posted by: KG at November 15, 2012 01:04 PM (p7BzH)

32 Tax the rich. The faster and harder it's done the sooner I can pull the eject handle.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (SDkq3)

33 > Mickey Kaus' oft-repeated assertion that the press are, or at least consider themselves to be, "Secret Patriots."

Seriously?

Kaus is out of his gourd.

He tries to tell the truth, I think, but he has too many blind spots. He thought supporting Obama was the best bet for those opposed to amnesty.

Throwing the above out once, maybe, if drunk. But "oft-repeated"?

Who? Who in the press is in this "secret patriot" cadre? Probably fewer than 10 percent. Most of them are too stupid to even know what they believe, and of the rest most are likely to the left of what they espouse (patriotism is not a leftist value).

If such creatures as Kaus describes exists, they have as bad blinders as he does about their fellow travellers.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (jeAQW)

34

the only reason I'm here is to read your posts

well, mostly

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (VE0cN)

35 Long posts save lives.

Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (hNXHo)

36
If tax increases are good for the economy, raise them on everyone and the economy will boom!!!

Let the Burning commence. 439,000new claims filedonyour money due to lack of jobs. AndHurr Sandywasn't the cause of that. Going to be one hell of a Christmas season withthe 48% (the producers)not feeling happy about Obama's reelection.

Go Galt to whatever extent you are able and do it now. I did it 4 years ago and it's been nothing but good. Starve the Beast.

Posted by: America at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (1Y+hH)

37 If liberalism is its own nation, why are we a part of it?

Posted by: Minuteman at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (vpEJA)

38 so he was once again the beneficiary, as he so often is, of covering up his serious incompetencies and stupidities with less serious but even more risible incompetencies and stupidities, thus covering up the fact that he is, in fact, seriously incompetent and stupid.

------------

You've stumbled onto the secret of my success, son!

Posted by: Joey Biden! at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (r2PLg)

39 Hanging upside down? Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (UOM4

Thank you, Jane. I really needed that laugh.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:06 PM (sbV1u)

40 Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)
__
You're a good writer, please don't take the easy way out. I'm at work and sometimes can't read every single word of your posts, but even skimming them is instructive and insightful.

To your point about donk honchos claiming SS will never be touched: About a year ago some obama admin mouthpiece, a female wonk, told us that by year 20XX we'd only be getting 75% of what is presently calculated for us.
Wish I remembered her name, sorry I don't.

Posted by: kallisto at November 15, 2012 01:07 PM (jm/9g)

41 Until the proles go hungry, nothing will change.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 15, 2012 01:07 PM (pLTLS)

42 I for one welcome our new long post overlords!

Kidding ace. I prefer them. Also, moar movie reviews! Slap that Ebert fuck upside the head with your Hairy Ewok Cock of Justice.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at November 15, 2012 01:07 PM (BrQrN)

43 If I keep getting grief about longer posts, I'll just do the thing which is the absolute easiest for any blogger -- a link and a quote.

________________________

Don't steal my act!

Posted by: Instapundit at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (r2PLg)

44 MAKE IT BURN!

Posted by: MrShad at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (Xqfwb)

45 I hope Harry Reid get the High Priest treatment from Game of Thrones when shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Adam at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (/YJYi)

46 Pelosi and Reid do not sleep at night. They sleep in coffins during the day like all Democrat Vampires.

Posted by: Ringo at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (nnFBN)

47

btw, tl,dr is the equivalent to "I'd hit it."

it is obligatory

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (VE0cN)

48 I will be hitting retirement age right around the time that Social Security is going to be broke. Well, broker than it is now since it's actually utterly broke but everyone lies that it's not. I've known this since I started worked when I was around 14 years old.


I'm done with being even moderately polite about this. My money is being stolen from my paycheck every month with the threat of my being shot in the head if I don't comply with paying FICA and all the rest of it. It's theft, straight up.

It honestly takes everything in me not to start screaming when the retired set starts yammering away about how they earned their SS and how dare anyone mess with it. I came dangerously close to saying fuck you, you thieving bitch *in church* when one of my parents' friends started up a rant about how horrible the Republicans were for trying to stop all Social Security payments right now.

Arrrrggghh. *stompys more*


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (VtjlW)

49 Everybody knows the famous Margaret Thatcher quote about socialism.


These fucking cocksuckers in DC HAVE to know that at SOME point, the bill comes due. The Govt has mortgaged the Future to bribe the Present. The bill has to be paid or it will be a world of shit.


Tax revenues down? Fuck you- pay me.
Credit downgrade? Fuck you- pay me.
$20 trillion dollar debt? Fuck you- pay me.
Everybody on food stamps? Fuck you- pay me.

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (8sCoq)

50 37 -

What's the old saying? If you are in a sting, and you're looking around trying to figure out who the mark is, it's you.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (TOk1P)

51 38
so he was once again the beneficiary, as he so often is, of covering
up his serious incompetencies and stupidities with less serious but
even more risible incompetencies and stupidities, thus covering up the
fact that he is, in fact, seriously incompetent and stupid.

Yeah, he's weapons-grade stupid. This fact has been covered over for all of his pathetic life. He's a pliable dunce, whose head was filled with that Sophmoric shit known as Marxism. Then he was wound up and set on the world like an Egyptian Plague.

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:08 PM (BoE3Z)

52 Math check: $80 billion divided by $1,000 billion ( a trillion bucks) is not less than 1%. It's 8%. We at least need to get our math right when describing Obama's meaningless deficit reduction.

Posted by: JEFF PACE at November 15, 2012 01:09 PM (kMU6/)

53 "I had a fantasy that the media's Smart Set, which has long cherished its
unearned reputation as the Smart Set, would at the very least remember
the things they'd been saying and writing for 15, 20, 30 years and
perhaps admit that Romney and Ryan had a pretty strong point, and anyone
arguing against them was simply unserious."



The electorate is unserious.....they are unserious because education is unserious and the media is unserious.



The only thing they are serious about is.....BURN THE MATH WITCH!!!!

Posted by: Tami at November 15, 2012 01:09 PM (X6akg)

54 In order to defeat an insurrection and save your country, you have to win by any and every means necessary.

The paradox is that you have to do the very things that are completely antithetical to your country and political beliefs.

This is why I hate these bastards. Because they will force us to go down to their level to defeat them. And if we survive, and if there is a great American revival, 100 years or so after that, the "progressives" will be at our throats yet again.

Vicious circle and all that. Evil never dies, it just hides in the shadows until opportunity arises for it to rise again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (XkWWK)

55 I hope Harry Reid get the High Priest treatment from Game of Thrones when shit hits the fan.
No spoilers!!!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (nkiQM)

56 When corruptocrats like Reid or Pelosi say that Social Security and Medicare are on track to remain solvent for "many years", what they mean is "Until I'll no longer be in office".

And yes, I do realize that was a painfully obvious sentiment for the small minority of voters who have been paying attention.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (SY2Kh)

57 Thank you, Jane. I really needed that laugh.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at November 15, 2012 01:06 PM (sbV1u)



Thanks. I do what I can (in between bouts of uncontrollable sobbing and maniacal laughter).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (UOM48)

58 22Liberalism is an evil. I had to soul-search, Ace, and find my own core value. It's limited government. My personal manifesto. Anyone who shares that belief is in my camp. Gay marriage, abortion, whatever - if you are truly for limited government (and I'm talkin' States Rights here people - as a baseline-) then I'm on your side cause you're on mine. Details to be worked out later. If Choom-Dada wins, then I lose. I'd rather die trying to be free than go down as one of his fucking slaves.
Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:02 PM (BoE3Z)This.There is a lot of room for everyone to get along in subsidiarity. Centralized Federal Control, not so much.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (vpEJA)

59 Astounding. All I can think is that too many people on both sides of the SS issue are only now beginning to emerge from a coma.

The get-off-my-lawn types will no doubt recall that the "saving"/imminent collapse of SS has been an election issue since, oh, 1936 or so. Republican Candidate says "we must Do Something so SS doesn't go all Tango Uniform on us" while Democrat Candidate says "the Republicans wanna starve yer Granny!!11!!" It happens every four years.

That's not to say there are no problems. It would be terminally stupid to think that. But it is also a matter of record that the system limps on exactly as it always has, with any dire predictions (R) or lavish praise (D) being reserved for election time.

The Thoughtful Media has a lifetime supply of "can SS be saved?" articles in the can. All they require is updating to change the names of the gubmint drones and university "experts" being quoted.

Just like today, the ultimate solution has always been to pass the buck and kick the can down the road. That will happen until the very day when financial institutions stop honoring SS checks and recipients start dying from starvation.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (yKUrR)

60 If such creatures as Kaus describes exists, they have as bad blinders as he does about their fellow travellers.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at November 15, 2012 01:05 PM (jeAQW)


Kaus has seriously flawed thought processes.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (WmDuI)

61 Part of the reason I had this fantasy -- this fantasy that the press would actually stand up, for once, for something besides liberalism -- was Mickey Kaus' oft-repeated assertion that the press are, or at least consider themselves to be, "Secret Patriots." And that while they have a liberal bias, they also have a bias towards patriotism -- statesmanship -- which can sometimes check their bias towards liberalism.

__________________

What Mickey meant by--

"Secret Patriots"--was --

willing to be the President's body guards, willing to take a bullet for him.

Kind of like the Secret Service--with less sex.

(Plus Mickey --is sloppy.)

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (r2PLg)

62
Yes Ace, a fifth Column.

Isn't it what Billy Ayers, rich little guy, has been trying to do for years?

And entitlements are growing, they just bought that dumbfuck the Presidency by "entitlements".

What a word...entitlements.

People are entitled...

Why? Cuz they're fat and loudmouthed toothless assholes?

Cuz they're stupid?

Cuz the liberals have demolished education, therefore turning them into serfs?


Posted by: Rev Dr E Don Trump at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (ApGOC)

63 They're not liberals, they're leftists. There's nothing "liberal" about them.

Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (zoehZ)

64

My prpoerty value is down 40%
County > Fuck you pay me.

Posted by: Ringo at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (nnFBN)

65 Fire
I'll take you to burn.
Fire
I'll take you to learn.
I'll see you burn!
You fought hard and you saved and learned
but all of it's going to burn.
And your mind
your tiny mind
you know you've really been so blind.
Now's your time burn your mind.
You're falling far too far behind.
Oh no
oh no
oh no
you gonna burn!
Fire
to destroy all you've done.
Fire
to end all you've become.
I'll feel your burn!
You've been living like a little girl
in the middle of your little world.
and your mind
your tiny mind
you know you've really been so blind.
Nows your time burn your mind
you're falling far too far behind.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (Hx5uv)

66 It's less than 10% Ace, not less than 1%.

Posted by: RJ at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (QTVh2)

67 Geez, ace, we're just funnin' on you.

Also, I've come to the conclusion that this is whistling past the graveyard. The elderly don't care.

Oh, they claim to care, but whenever someone says "we have to reform this" they (as a group, I'm not talking particulars here) take the fundamentally unserious stance of "You'd better not touch MY social security! I paid in for that!"

I'm coming to the realization that the only time people will agitate for real change is when they realize the ruling class- whether that "ruling class" is the Nobility, or whether it's "The Bergiouse," or whether it's an elected political class- is stealing their property rights (which means: their labor).

Until a person realizes that, he does not have enough motivation to agitate for change (whether that's peacefully through elections, or violently through revolution). Until enough people realize it, no change will come no matter how vociferously those who agitate do so.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (5DR1j)

68 What we now call Liberalism, once was called corruption.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, with gasoline and matches, looking innocent at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (GBXon)

69 Mickey is still a Democrat--quit getting sucker punched by that troll.

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (r2PLg)

70 This is all fascinating, but most of this country (including at least half of all voters) have absolutely no idea what an "entitlement" is. If you explain it to them, they will get a vague idea, and then forget.

I enjoy our hilarious little political bubble, but we seriously need to grasp this.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 15, 2012 01:12 PM (4+8JQ)

71 But there is nothing more disappointing than actually doing an hour of work and seeing people say "We like the three minute jobs better."

Fine. If so, I'll just do that. Easier for me, better for you.

Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)
______
Great post, and thank you. I like the longer posts, and I think it pays to read the whole thing. In my last job, I managed a 100+ page annual report, and I'm convinced no one read anything more than first page of the executive summary, so I feel for you.

Posted by: Dante at November 15, 2012 01:12 PM (NWLVJ)

72 SS is largely going bust right now due to fraudulent SSDI. Stop that and it will last a lot longer. But medicare is going bust faster than any of it.

Posted by: Vic at November 15, 2012 01:12 PM (YdQQY)

73 Ace, there is no more "post-election". It's permanent campaign mode all the time, now. In fact, that might even be a reflection of the fact that if the facts were to come out, like during a cooling off period after a hard campaign, the next election cycle would see the Left booted from power. When the facts are so indubitably against the Left's favored policies, just turn the facts into debatable propositions to be politicized.

This will go on until the last dollar is spent buying votes.

Posted by: The Grand Inquisitor at November 15, 2012 01:12 PM (P2Ufm)

74
Wake Forest Baptist Hospital to eliminate 950 jobs Associated Press WINSTON-SALEM — Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center says it will lay off 76 employees this week and cut a total of 950 jobs by the end of June.


That burns a little. There sure have been a lot of layoff announcements in the last week. I should have been keeping a running total on the ones I've seen.

Posted by: Meremortal says Starve The Beast, Go Galt at November 15, 2012 01:12 PM (1Y+hH)

75 So what did ace think of the movie?

Posted by: joncelli at November 15, 2012 01:12 PM (RD7QR)

76 Allow me to propose a "balanced approach" to what happens in your mouth.

Posted by: Hal at November 15, 2012 01:13 PM (MftY/)

77 Liberalism is a religion in the following sense:

They have an ideology. Anything that contradicts the ideology -- any facts -- are simply wrong.

Or what I call the "social scientific method": Develop a hypothesis and if data contradicts the hypothesis, reject the data.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 15, 2012 01:13 PM (xSegX)

78 Amen. Shout amen to the rooftops. Spell out AMEN in stocks of worthless bonds that the federal government will never repay.

There may be sincerely patriotic liberals who care about the country. Hell, I know there are, since I know some of them.

But liberal politicians and our media are mostly filth. Consciously evil. In a well-run country, they would be breaking rocks.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at November 15, 2012 01:13 PM (ZMzpb)

79 Please! Do not touch SS!

Posted by: The Burnage at November 15, 2012 01:13 PM (zpqa2)

80
Of course the left knows that at some point it will all fail. They are fine with this, the plebes all being in equal misery as long as they're equal. The part that doesn't occur to them as elitists is that they think they will still get to be elitists, but history shows they will be the first to be purged.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (3BbLJ)

81 Wait ... this is not a movie review?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (BAS5M)

82 So what did ace think of the movie?

He didn't like the little bald boy always getting suckered by the dark-haired girl holding the football.

Posted by: EC at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (GQ8sn)

83 This is all fascinating, but most of this country (including at least half of all voters) have absolutely no idea what an "entitlement" is. If you explain it to them, they will get a vague idea, and then forget.
I enjoy our hilarious little political bubble, but we seriously need to grasp this.


True, but they too will learn.

Soon.

Posted by: Math at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (BrQrN)

84 They don't call it The Third Rail for nothin'.

Ryan humped it and french kissed it.

I admired it---but the cynical side of me--knew it was wrong.

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (r2PLg)

85 REPOST:
General Woundwart: How did GWB do with the hispanic vote?

It can be done...

Posted by: Prescient11 at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (tVTLU)

86 Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)

Ho boy. That's what I get for commenting without reading the comments first. Ace, I appreciate the long posts and the work that goes into them. We just like to kid you sometimes.

Posted by: joncelli at November 15, 2012 01:14 PM (RD7QR)

87 >My prpoerty value is down 40%
County > Fuck you pay me.

Posted by: Ringo at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (nnFBN)


I feel ya dog.
I've been calling around trying to repair the damage. I'm underwater by $23K. Bank of America, hereinafter referred to as 'those bastards', won't give me an interest rate reduction loan because they say the loan won't close before I lose my job. And those bastards won't do home loan modification UNTIL I lose my job and am struggling to make payments.

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (8sCoq)

88
"Harry Reid, who is about as far from a Statesman as a Cowboy Poetry is from Shakespeare..."

I've got to admit, Ace. That was a great line.

...of course, you're kinda trashing a part of the conservative base, there: Dissing on cowboys, ranchers, westerners and such.
There's nothing like further alienating people who normally vote for your candidates and policies, is there?
imo, some of that cowboy poetry is as insightful, inventive and humorous as anything Will ever wrote (or claimed to write, anyway.)

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (WwR1j)

89 Let them do what they want I guess. They will destroy Social Security and Medicare themselves.

Posted by: Ben at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (C2Y4l)

90 Let it burn

Posted by: s'mores at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (vYB+W)

91 The take-home is that there are some problems for which democracies cannot find solutions. Math isn't just hard, it's painful. And it's worth remembering that the people who actually elected Obama are single women. The Old Maid vote.

Posted by: Jerome at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (eQa5p)

92 I'm done with being even moderately polite about this. My money is
being stolen from my paycheck every month with the threat of my being
shot in the head if I don't comply with paying FICA and all the rest of
it. It's theft, straight up.


Now internalize that it's not "money" but your labor- actual hours of your life that the government is taking from you.

And then wait until I hide in that bunker over there before you unleash the nuclear stomying.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (5DR1j)

93 Ace, there is no more "post-election"

---

I saw that a newspaper yesterday endorsed Hitlary! for president in 2016.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (Hx5uv)

94 But there is nothing more disappointing than actually doing an hour of work and seeing people say "We like the three minute jobs better."

______________

So.....

the girlfriend is a real bitch.

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (r2PLg)

95 >>>Fine. If so, I'll just do that. Easier for me, better for you.


Dude if I wanted Insty that's where I'd hang out. I am actually here to read your analysis, and then kick it around with a joke or insight of my own. Then kick it back and forth between the Horde...

The "no one reads the posts" running joke is just that, a joke man.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 15, 2012 01:15 PM (0q2P7)

96 This isn't even in the Top 10 of Ace's longest posts.

Posted by: post monitor at November 15, 2012 01:16 PM (M2qTM)

97 Please don't stop the long posts, Ace. If you balance them with short funny posts, they are great.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 15, 2012 01:16 PM (MNWe/)

98 No one has explained to him that $80 billion per year is not equal to
our $1.whatever trillion per year deficit. It's less than 1%.


$1,000 billion = $1 trillion

$80 billion/$1,000 billion = 8%

Math is hard for Ewoks also.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 15, 2012 01:16 PM (kqqGm)

99 And yet none of this will prevent President Biden from happening.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 15, 2012 01:16 PM (i0App)

100
Vicious circle and all that. Evil never dies, it just hides in the shadows until opportunity arises for it to rise again.Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 15, 2012 01:10 PM (XkWWK)It's called bad faith. We have a Alinskyite president. He makes us live up to our own rules. The Constitution on down. He is worse than a criminal.

Posted by: Minuteman at November 15, 2012 01:16 PM (vpEJA)

101 “a serious look at how we reform our entitlements”

Means those who have received entitlements their
entire lives will still be entitled, but those who paid
into the system for forty or fifty years can just bend
over and take it up, up, and away up the pooper.

People like myself and my wife, who continually paid into the system for forty plus years and are on track to receive about twice the 'average' benefit --
will see our record of accomplishment erased instead of rewarded so that the lazy welfare leeches
who put one or two quarters of effort into a 45 year
period will still continue to be rewarded for voting D.

And both big fat Chris on the other side of the Delaware and Chris Matthews can suck my dick.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (feFL6)

102 Posted by: Warren Bonesteel

Is this your new fucking meme for the month?

Anything a conservative says is "bashing the base"?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (hZ+2N)

103 >This isn't even in the Top 10 of Ace's longest posts.



Posted by: post monitor at November 15, 2012 01:16 PM (M2qTM)

I sometimes admonish him to edit, but to no avail

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (8sCoq)

104 I LOVE the long posts, Ace! Screw the naysayers!

MOAR LONG POSTS!

Seriously. You're a lifeline right now. Please don't let me drown.

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (znT2j)

105 Nice article Ace....

like the closing line...a lot.

Yeah Reid is declaring Soc Sec offlimits.

CBO says we may already be past the tipover point where it is pure drain...

I know let's cut defense!

It is like twitter you show them source material charts from Obarka's own admin and they just bray.

Pain is the only way man.

Let it burn.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (LRFds)

106
86
Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)

Posts - as long as you want. I read most of them, unless OCD has flared up. Your blog is the sanest thing on the net. Which is kinda sad, but I digress... don't stop being Ace. Please.

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (BoE3Z)

107 Keep rockin' the long posts please, Ace (and thanks!). Also, have you tried easy-peasy-Japanesey? Way easier than your version. Also, I denounce myself.

Posted by: massideas at November 15, 2012 01:17 PM (v32fM)

108 and yeah Al-Wa-Po now that you want to "try to help" after fucking us....fuck you.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:18 PM (LRFds)

109 ace, I certainly hope you know that we're just being Morons and mocking you because that's what we do. If you ever posted a long form piece and there weren't tl;dr and wait did he like the movie comments immediately, I would worry. It's the combination of quick hits, long form serious pieces, tits and smart military stuff that makes this place so great.


/ suckuppery

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 15, 2012 01:18 PM (VtjlW)

110 Rush praising Ron Paul.

We truly are in uncharted waters.

(I like our crazy uncle, btw - to a point)

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 01:18 PM (zpqa2)

111
/enter the ass kissers

no wonder why we lose elections

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 01:19 PM (VE0cN)

112 Is this your new fucking meme for the month?
Posted by: Waterhouse


Don't bother. He's a shit-stirrer and gets off on being 'Right.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 15, 2012 01:19 PM (uoA/0)

113 Warren actually thinks cowboys read cowboy poetry. That's quaint.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 15, 2012 01:19 PM (pLTLS)

114 10 Ace,

Ace you are needed I am not asking you to take a burden you feel is not worth bearing but you have a gift.

You are appreciated.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (LRFds)

115 sigh, and to think, if the polls were accurate, Romney would've won the election if it were conducted a week earlier.

Then again, since there was significant voter fraud that no one wants to talk about, maybe he'd never win no matter what.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (QxSug)

116 Ace: Rule #something_or_other, don't write for yourself, and don't write for your readers. Write for your ideal reader.

Your ideal reader has an attention span.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (jeAQW)

117 Rush praising Ron Paul.

We truly are in uncharted waters.

---

I've had a kind thought or two about Luap Nor in November 6.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (Hx5uv)

118 So to maintain power they have to hand out goodies to their voting blocs. They ran out of money to hand out goodies and decided to borrow. They are running out of borrowing ability. When they run out of money, borrowings, and then loot and have nothing left for their voting blocs the real fun will start.

The question they are now asking themselves is: 'How much longer can this go on? Will it please last long enough for me to grab my share of the boodle and high-tail it somewhere nice?'

Posted by: Mikey NTH - What a Relief at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (hLRSq)

119
But there is nothing more disappointing than actually doing an hour of work and seeing people say "We like the three minute jobs better." - ace

Seriously, your longer stuff is better. Was only kidding about the movie review length.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (BAS5M)

120 You call THAT a long post? Piker.

Posted by: Unabridged Dictionary at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (4+8JQ)

121 ~ tap tap tap tap tap ~

Hello! It is I - Hadji, the Muslim Comic, I saw that the Ace has written a long post, but Hadji - he does not have time to read this, so Hadji would ask one of my peeps to help a Hadji out, and answer this:

What did the ace think of Skyfall?

-

Posted by: Hadji the Muslim Comic at November 15, 2012 01:20 PM (RuUvx)

122
Fine. If so, I'll just do that. Easier for me, better for you.





Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)


If it's all the same to you, I'd much prefer to go with the longer reads.

I like to have something long and thoughtful to mull over when there is a lull in activity in my office. When I'm not gaming, reading political blogs is my hobby, and this is my favorite haunt. o.o Keep churnin' out the good stuff, please.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 15, 2012 01:21 PM (XxBS0)

123 Math check: $80 billion divided by $1,000 billion ( a trillion bucks) is not less than 1%. It's 8%.


Math witch!! Math witch!!1!

Posted by: demonrat voter at November 15, 2012 01:21 PM (z9HTb)

124
"Minnesota employers cut 8,100 jobs statewide in October, by far the worst monthly job report of the year."

Let's see, who did they vote for?

Moar Burnage!

Posted by: Meremortal says Starve The Beast, Go Galt at November 15, 2012 01:21 PM (1Y+hH)

125

Rush is a little off base on this freedom thing.

These past elections have been between Free vs Freedom.

Free just won...again.



Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 01:21 PM (VE0cN)

126 And so liberals have redefine partisanship as patriotism, and patriotism as partisanship.

Posted by: Socratease at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (iVBDH)

127 Nothing will change until people get bothered.
I think this is the whole of politics.
Every time I see my check, I see the taxes are taken out of it, and that bothers me.
It doesn't bother most people.

But when taxes have to go way up for services that have gone way down, then more people are going to get bothered. Then change will happen.

So, in short:

MAKE IT BURN!

Posted by: MrShad at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (Xqfwb)

128 Also, I've come to the conclusion that this is whistling past the graveyard. The elderly don't care.

Oh,
they claim to care, but whenever someone says "we have to reform this"
they (as a group, I'm not talking particulars here) take the
fundamentally unserious stance of "You'd better not touch MY social
security! I paid in for that!"


And yet it's a common refrain even among self-described fiscal conservatives. And it drives me insane with a rage unmatched by the heat of the solar surface.

Know what else they "paid in for", directly or indirectly? Welfare. Food stamps. Grants to study the mating habits of transgendered albino chipmunks. Every other fucking spending, grant and welfare program in the country.

It's different simply because it's a line item on your pay stub? No, it's not- whatever money not immediately spent on benefits goes into the general fund in exchange for a non-transferable IOU. It's just another welfare program dishonestly disguised as a retirement savings plan.

/choir preaching

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)

129 Nice piece, Ace. With a few guys like you, the New York Times could become relevant again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (QKKT0)

130 I've got yer long post right here

Posted by: count monsterrod von hugenstein at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (M2qTM)

131 What to say? Conservatives have been talking about social security's flaws since at least 1980. The left does not care, they aren't about governing, just about political spoils.

Or, actually, the question is, is the left all about spoils or are the spoils the bait to trap them and us into totalitarianism.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (QxSug)

132 test

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Now Blog-Less at November 15, 2012 01:23 PM (yAor6)

133 I loved how some of the liberal papers thought that their last minute endorsements of Romney would undo decades of their poison.

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:23 PM (r2PLg)

134 to think, if the polls were accurate, Romney would've won the election if it were conducted a week earlier.

---

I don't believe it. Between the vote fraud and the cornucopia of government cheese, we were screwed from day one.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:23 PM (Hx5uv)

135 sigh, and to think, if the polls were accurate, Romney would've won the election if it were conducted a week earlier.



Then again, since there was significant voter fraud that no one wants to talk about, maybe he'd never win no matter what.


My attitude on this: Shouldn't have even been close. However, because of left-wing racism and the media, Romney actually had to work to get even as close as he did.

And we're back again to the media treating Obama as if he were a special needs child.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 15, 2012 01:23 PM (xSegX)

136 If it makes Ace feel better, I read through the long movie reviews.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (QxSug)

137 Yea, it shall burn.
And burn it shall.
So sayith us all.

Posted by: Comrade Trainer at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (1QEkm)

138 125 Soothsayer,

Maybe he is looking at a different map than you.

My map chose Free.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (LRFds)

139 135 AmishDude,

Yup and it *will not* stop.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (LRFds)

140
Know what else they "paid in for", directly or indirectly? Welfare.
Food stamps. Grants to study the mating habits of transgendered albino
chipmunks. Every other fucking spending, grant and welfare program in
the country.



Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 15, 2012 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)



To be fair, transgendered albino chipmunk studies are essential to broadening Democrat reproductive options. They haven't many other options, the way society's been going lately.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (XxBS0)

141
131
What to say? Conservatives have been talking about social security's
flaws since at least 1980. The left does not care, they aren't about
governing, just about political spoils.

They will care - when Uncle Sugar taps out. Just don't be living in LA or Chicago. (Fill in the Babylon of your choice).

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (BoE3Z)

142 And it's worth remembering that the people who actually elected Obama are single women. The Old Maid vote. ___
I just lumped all of the gimme free shit crowd under the LOSER rubric. Obama won because the majority of the electorate now thinks of themselves as losers, and they chose to vote for the safety net provider rather than the facilitator of economic opportunity and growth.

Except the latte liberals in the eight wealthiest counties...they refuse to cast a vote for Romney, even though he more resembles them than does obama - because they refuse to validate any GOP candidate due to socon wing of the party.

(And no, I do not advocate decoupling from the socons. Just saying that the limo donks want to keep worshipping their own god of materialism and egocentricity, that stinky old Christian god just gets in the way.)

Posted by: kallisto at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (jm/9g)

143 It's different simply because it's a line item on your pay stub? No, it's not- whatever money not immediately spent on benefits goes into the general fund in exchange for a non-transferable IOU. It's just another welfare program dishonestly disguised as a retirement savings plan./choir preaching

Hallelujah!

Posted by: The Choir at November 15, 2012 01:24 PM (BrQrN)

144 How to join the free shit mafia?

Posted by: Butters at November 15, 2012 01:25 PM (NIZHJ)

145 I'd rather have Luap Nor than TFG.

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 01:25 PM (znT2j)

146 First of all, Ace: We tease you because we lurves you. Don't go changin'. This is a great post.

>> I've known this since I started worked when I was around 14 years old.


I'm guessing you and I must be within a year or two of each other, AtC. And since I'm self employed, the fuckers have taken the full load out of my hide each and every year, since 1999. It gives me angina to think about the checks I'm going to write in the next 4 years to support a bunch of layabouts and an idiotic, mismanaged healthcare payment scam.

Then again, if Mrs. Jakeman loses her job, which I'm guessing is about a 60-70% chance in the next year, we'll be less in the crosshairs, which is nice.

I have always been a chronic saver; even when I was earning $17k just out of school, I socked away a couple grand a year. My dad taught me to always have enough money that you could tell your boss to go to hell, and I've done it a half dozen times. Now that I work for myself, I'd like to tell these gummint a-holes to take what they've gotten from me for SS and shove it. I'll pay for myself, thanks. If there were ever an opt-out, I'd be first in line.

Posted by: jakeman at November 15, 2012 01:25 PM (96M6e)

147 SOON.

Posted by: Obamacare at November 15, 2012 01:25 PM (znT2j)

148

If Republicans were smart they'd create a deficit counter that tallies in real time all the savings if we passed Paul Ryan's budget last year.

And say look here's what would've saved if we did something a year ago, two years ago, ...

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 01:26 PM (VE0cN)

149 131 JoeInDC,

my answer?

Fraud.

If it is okay for illegals if it is okay for Philly wards it is ok for me I think.

I'll wait a bit to make up my mind.

The Gypsies and Jews did okay being beliefs without a state.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:26 PM (LRFds)

150 I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.

Very soundly. Because nothing - I repeat, nothing will ever happen to them. They are wealthy enough to ensure they will survive whatever comes. They remind me of the line from 1776 - "You hang to the rear on every issue, so that if we should go under, you'll still remain afloat!"

In my world, scum like Pelosi and Reid - and Specter and Graham and Collins, too - would wake up in the morning literally pissing themselves with fear and wondering "is this the day I'm going to end up swinging from a lamppost outside of theCapitol?"

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 15, 2012 01:26 PM (zF6Iw)

151 ...some of the liberal papers thought that their last minute endorsements of Romney would undo decades of their poison.

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:23 PM

I think the reason they waited so long was so that nobody would pay attention.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 15, 2012 01:26 PM (rzTDZ)

152 Amish, if the electorate was similar to 1984, then the election would've been a landslide from what we're hearing. However, the left's great population replacement project continues apace. How's that working out for us? Import 40-60million new Americans, teach them up that Democrats are cool and America's history is shit, and get them to vote 75-25 for Donks, regardless of issues.

Sad to say, there is no outreach to new Americans. At least not for the next 30 years, I'd say.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:26 PM (QxSug)

153 Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: LibertarianJim (Team #letitburn) at November 15, 2012 01:27 PM (9TK8E)

154 146 Jakeman,

I wanted to work since age 10, I used to ask dad to look at his checks.

I figured it out by age 12 in 1984.

FDR needs his polio addled ass kicked in hell.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:27 PM (LRFds)

155 I read the whole entire thing before I commented, something I don't always do. Sometimes I read some, comment some, then go back and finish.

I enjoy everything Ace writes about - short or long, except movie reviews. Not my thing.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 01:27 PM (feFL6)

156 Ace,

The long posts ARE the blog. Meaningful and substantial. It's what makes this the best damned blog on the Net.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 15, 2012 01:27 PM (xSegX)

157 so, the Dems want to do nothing about entitlements. I guess they missed the fact that manadatory spending (SS, Medicaid, Medicare, etc.) plus debt service (interest on the debt) exceeded the federal government's revenue in fiscal 2011 by $120 plus billion. So we were in the hole by $120 billion before a dime was spent on defense, education, transportation, etc.
Explain to me how this math thing works.

Posted by: tofer732 at November 15, 2012 01:27 PM (2zM0P)

158 I know most of you are just funning but reading the same thing, over and over, is a pretty big deflator.

By the way, thank you for the encouragement (those of you who said nice things) but I don't really want or need encouragement. It's my job, after all. I just would like to not see so many tl'dr's after a post it took some time to write.

It's just a matter of incentives, and disincentives.

Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:27 PM (LCRYB)

159 Ace, I honestly enjoy the long posts more than the short ones. I like to see an argument developed and detailed. I say, keep 'em coming.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 15, 2012 01:28 PM (i0App)

160 I'd give just about anything right now for the distraction of a nice 1900 word piece on Skyfall. Or Skyrim, for that matter.

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 01:28 PM (znT2j)

161 http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/11/15/buzz-ballad-the-charge-of-the-light-worker/

Posted by: buzzsawmonkey at November 15, 2012 01:28 PM (/SwiA)

162
..... its a VIOLIN...... not a fiddle.

Posted by: Emporer Nero the Zero Barky McFucknuts at November 15, 2012 01:28 PM (nELVU)

163 152 JoeInDC,

and what do we do if they stole our nation with willful illegal immigration?

I am wondering of kissing a corpse is tacky.

Time to raise a new young lady.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:28 PM (LRFds)

164 "Liberalism is its own nation, its own farflung tribe, its own Fifth Column within any country it infests. The "patriotism" postulated by Kaus is simply a loyalty to the Grand Progressive Cause."

Extremely well-written essay, Ace. My take? The ideologues currently in charge of the federal government know the math as well as anyone. They know their spending policies are unsustainable. They know the private sector will strain and eventually break under the weight put on it. What they're doing, in my view, is crashing the system in such a way that the blame won't devolve upon them. Point is, they're deliberately enacting policies guaranteed to bring about the destruction of free market capitalism: let it burn, blame the other guy, and institute a system in its place that is largely indistinguishable from previous socialist superstates--only, you know, this time it'll work. Or at least that's what they tell themselves.As an aside, I don't believe most rank-and-file liberals think that's what's going on, and that includes working joe reporters and TV talking heads.

You folks saying, 'Let it burn'? It will regardless of what you choose to do or not do, but it won't be the Left taking the blame for it. It'll be you, us, me: the wreckers and reactionaries clinging to our Bibles and our guns. Oh, yeah, and about those guns...

Posted by: troyriser at November 15, 2012 01:28 PM (vtiE6)

165 I hate to be a wet blanket, but eighty billion dollars is eight percent of a one trillion, not "less than one percent." Now, when you consider the spare change on how much more than a trillion well go, that percentage drops to about six percent. Businesses produce less, or go out of business, that number drops even more. But all that is moot. Traditionally, when Democrats are in power, more money means more spending.

Posted by: Richard Steel at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (SUlmX)

166 I said that if we won, we should have an "ace appreciation thread" for bringing us all together and getting us through the last four+ years.

We didn't win... but we should still have an "ace appreciation thread". Where's Laura...? We need a tip jar/appreciation thread.

We love you and your long posts, ace, you big galoot. We don't even know what a galoot is.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (gpK/U)

167 it's all NIMBY


People despise Congress, but they keep re-electing the same local asswipe.

They say entitlements need to be reined in, but don't you dare touch theirs.

They say poor people need affordable housing, but build it on the other side of town, please.

They like the idea of wind power, but don't fuck up the view from their vacation home's back porch.




Posted by: Jones in CO at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (8sCoq)

168 As has been pointed out, there is no "Now What?" addenda to Karl Marx' or Saul Alinsky's works. All they can do is keep pillaging and destroying.

Posted by: t-bird at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (FcR7P)

169 Whoa! That makes my fantasy about Eva Braun, black silk stockings and a garter belt, and kosher ham seems realistic.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:01 PM (Hx5uv)


Throw in Magda Goebbels and Lida Baarova and I'll take a premium subscription to your newsletter, sir.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (zF6Iw)

170 The next person who tldr's Ace has to clean Helen Thomas's undercarriage.

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (znT2j)

171
Medicare is the more pressing problem as Vicsaid above. Of course, if the media were to point this out, then it would underline how Obama yanked that $760b for OCare, making the problem worse.

How this gets resolved is no longer my concern. That is and always was the upside to losing this election--let these feckless, pandering corruptocrats figure it out. It's all on them now.

Posted by: spongeworthy at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (r5w1L)

172 158 Ace,

about that.....I'll be e-mailing you soon.

We need to organize and I can't be boss ever.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (LRFds)

173 ".....By the way, thank you for the encouragement (those of you who said nice
things) but I don't really want or need encouragement. It's my job,
after all........."

Well, fine Ace. Just fuck. Re-gift it, I guess.

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:29 PM (BoE3Z)

174 re: Long Posts

I, for one, enjoy the ever-living hell out of ace's longer posts.

The shame of the situation is that ace writes both better than the lib wunderkinder of Klein, Yglesias, Marcotte et cetera, and more cogently on any given topic (picture Ezra Klein writing a movie review).

Yet they are the ones with cushy msm jobs.

Were I ace, I'd want to raise a black flag and begin (rhetorically) slitting throats, hunting hobos, posting lesbian pron links, and such.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at November 15, 2012 01:30 PM (RuUvx)

175 So you ready to embrace violence yet?

Posted by: Trump at November 15, 2012 01:30 PM (h3Isy)

176 The country is going to hell in a handbasket. Obama is carrying the basket while the media cheers his style.

Posted by: In the Bleachers at November 15, 2012 01:30 PM (oaU57)

177 yeah, it's fraud. Not only are there 0% districts and people who've let it slip they voted once absentee and once in person, but there are also a ton of districts where they've done the thing where you put in 2 votes for romney and the rest for Obama, just to make it look fair. The 2 and 3 vote districts are sure signs of statistical fraud, as much as the zero districts.

Remember, Romney turned the tide, was getting a lot of endorsements and first time GOP voters.

I do think though that he should have had adam corolla and dennis miller do ads for him to get the kids to vote for him.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:30 PM (QxSug)

178 63 They're not liberals, they're leftists. There's nothing "liberal" about them.
Posted by: rickl at November 15, 2012 01:11 PM (zoehZ)

Delurking for a sec.

Thisia exactly right. Although I prefer the term Statists. I mean, honestly we know they manipulate the language and even at our level we continue to use their terms. If we can't call them Marxists or Socialists, then for the live of Pete call them Statists. Something other than liberal, which they are not but which continues to give them the veneer of being the more open minded and reasonable ones.

Also, Ace I appreciate that you used the real quote of what Biden said. Maybe it's just me being nitpicky, but everyone quoted him as saying, "They're going to put y'all back in chains." Which, of course, is an intentional downplay of what actually transpired. The chains implication is offensive by itself but the real bite of the quote wasn't that he said y'all, but that he went full retard and did the whole affect and dialect thing. I listened to clips of that and, "Dey gone' put y'all back in chains!" is exactly what he said.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

/lurk on

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 15, 2012 01:30 PM (qFpRI)

179 "Minnesota employers cut 8,100 jobs statewide in October, by far the worst monthly job report of the year."

Let's see, who did they vote for?

Moar Burnage!

Posted by: Meremortal says Starve The Beast, Go Galt at November 15, 2012 01:21 PM (1Y+hH)


Hurricane Sandy hit Minnesota?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 01:31 PM (1Jaio)

180 corolla's takedown of Obama's teachers based economy would've been golden.

NASCAR & Formula 1 - needs lots of money
Schools - not so much.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:31 PM (QxSug)

181 And autocorrect fails me, yet again.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 15, 2012 01:31 PM (qFpRI)

182 I love Ace's long posts.

Hell, I even read one once.

Posted by: jwest at November 15, 2012 01:31 PM (ZDsRL)

183 tl'dr's is too long didn't read. Urban Dictionary is good for decryption.

Posted by: Butters at November 15, 2012 01:31 PM (NIZHJ)

184 I'm tired of these morons trying to push a new tax on "the rich". How about we implement a tax on the top 5% earners of every profession? Thus, top 5% of teachers have to pay the tax. Top 5% of nurses, top 5% of whatever-it-is-you-do. After all, the amount of work, time, and sacrifice it takes to become a lawyer or a doctor is much steeper than what is required to become a teacher or nurse. Punishing them alone because they chose this hard course doesn't seem right. So lets punish everyone who succeeds in their profession of choice equally! After all, equality is what they want, right?

Posted by: pete at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (VIY20)

185 ...of course, you're kinda trashing a part of the conservative base, there: Dissing on cowboys, ranchers, westerners and such. There's nothing like further alienating people who normally vote for your candidates and policies, is there?
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel


Actaully, limpdick might have inadvertentlybrought up a sort of good point (one which I'm sure other morons discussed over the past week).

Conservatives/libertarians have principles. The leftuses identity politics in pursuit of power.

Unfortunately, we are probably at the point where campaigning on principles may no longer work. So pandering just might be the answer.

Campaign on pandering. Win. Govern conservatively.

Or let it burn. Whatever.

Posted by: The Choir at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (BrQrN)

186 163 152 JoeInDC,

and what do we do if they stole our nation with willful illegal immigration?

I am wondering of kissing a corpse is tacky.

Time to raise a new young lady.

****

The only thing we can hope is that the next 4 years of Great Depression 2.0 turns them back to their countries of origin.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (QxSug)

187 164 TroyRiser,

I decided a similar notion in the fatigue poison addled state I was in.

They have long ago seceded from us.

The guns....folks have choices about how much further left we get dragged.

The bravest thing you can say when pushed and told to move sometimes is "no YOU move."

The nation is over and letting it burn ain't really in our hands....prepare for the impact.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (LRFds)

188 When did this movie come out and what's the title?

Posted by: RWC at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (fWAjv)

189 At his news conference Wednesday, President Obama called for “a serious
look at how we reform our entitlements,” advocated “compromise” and
pronounced himself “ready and willing to make big commitments” on debt
reduction. Sounds like a man who understands what is needed.

.




Because grandstanding and posturing is a serious approach

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (1Jaio)

190 10 Perhaps you guys are kidding, but I'll say this: Longer posts do in fact take more work. If I keep getting grief about longer posts, I'll just do the thing which is the absolute easiest for any blogger -- a link and a quote.

-------

Love the long posts. Also love complaining about long posts. Annoyed that you've vowed not to post your Prometheus review.

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (IrbU4)

191 Off Sunday best church sock.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (BrQrN)

192 OT: Just heard that John E. will be discussing ORCA on Dana Loesch's radio show tomorrow. Don't know the time yet.

http://www.971talk.com/dana/

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 15, 2012 01:32 PM (i2Lsf)

193
Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 15, 2012 01:31 PM (qFpRI)

Keeps you out of the barrel, that way.

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (BoE3Z)

194 "How this gets resolved is no longer my concern. That is and always was
the upside to losing this election--let these feckless, pandering
corruptocrats figure it out. It's all on them now."

==========

So, it's resolved: we'll blame everything on the Republicans. Tell the media.

Posted by: Feckless, Pandering Corruptocrats at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (znT2j)

195 Dey know wut it eeeeesssss

Posted by: Joe Biden appealing to his multicultural constituents at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (60GaT)

196 And the sad fact is that we still have some work to do, even among our right leaning voters, before we could hope to see any progress on entitlements. We've made progress, but this isn't a universally accepted reality amongst our side. That is why you have Newt Gingrich shoot Paul Ryan down on MTP, and then make a strong primary recovery from it simply because he laid down some nice smack downs to a few moderators.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (cWpCn)

197 >
I'd give just about anything right now for the distraction of a nice 1900 word piece on Skyfall. Or Skyrim, for that matter.



OK.

Skyfall, by Ace of Spades

Part One: The history of opening credits

i can't do this...

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (8sCoq)

198 My fantasy is this blog with a usable user interface.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (zpqa2)

199 >>I used to ask dad to look at his checks

Sven, I remember my dad (like me, self employed for most of his life) showing me his taxes in 1979, when I asked him why we couldn't do something or other.

Well, he netted $0 that year, and not much more the following. I imagine he's up in heaven, drinking a Genessee, and laughing his ass off that we've been gifted Carter's 2nd and 3rd terms.

Posted by: jakeman at November 15, 2012 01:34 PM (96M6e)

200 Skyrim is great.

Posted by: Butters at November 15, 2012 01:34 PM (NIZHJ)

201 Actually we have "fixed" SS twice before to get by the so-called baby-boomer hump. The first time it was a massive tax increase. The second time it was a massive tax increase combined with raising the retirement age (decrease in benefits).


Both time Democrats spent every dollar of the tax increase plus some. Any fix that we do now will result in the same damn thing. Which is why I am opposed to any more "fixes". They just make the situation worse.

Posted by: Vic at November 15, 2012 01:34 PM (YdQQY)

202
tl'dr's is too long didn't read. Urban Dictionary is good for decryption.

Wow, you figured that all out already?

Posted by: Hans Gruber at November 15, 2012 01:34 PM (gpK/U)

203 Mickey Kaus is a bigot. Never, ever forget that. He is not an ally. He is merely convenient from time to time to conservatives, but nothing more. I will never forget a Ricochet podcast from over a year ago that featured a discussion between David Limbaugh and Mickey Kaus. Before the podcast was even halfway finished, Mickey began spewing hatred for Republicans. He flatly accused Republicans of being inherently racist. The man is a scumbag. I'm pretty sure this is the podcast below:

http://is.gd/eacx57

Posted by: George Orwell what knows the chocolate ration only goes up at November 15, 2012 01:35 PM (Lxw+T)

204 You can trust me, listen to my soothing voice.

Posted by: Harry Reid at November 15, 2012 01:35 PM (60GaT)

205 When can we start blaming Republicans *and* Independents? It only seems logical since $1M became $250k and was unexpectedly adjusted to $200k.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 15, 2012 01:35 PM (hNXHo)

206 Speaking of--I don't know how people keep going on--

Tyrone Woods father is making yet another effort today.

Posted by: tasker at November 15, 2012 01:35 PM (r2PLg)

207 198
My fantasy is this blog with a usable user interface.


Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 15, 2012 01:33 PM (zpqa2)
What are those funny little symbols located above the blank thingy where we type shit for, anyway?

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:36 PM (BoE3Z)

208 "You can trust me, listen to my soothing voice."
==========

HEY! My wallet's gone!

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 01:36 PM (znT2j)

209

I know that Obamas budget was soundly rejected by Congress, but since when does that let the admin off the hook?

The Exec branch is supposed to submit a budget and run the federal govt, not submit a budget and then give up after it fails to pass.

Obama said fine, screw you Congress, you draft and submit a budget. What??

You're the president, you asshole. Creating a budget is in YOUR job description.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 15, 2012 01:37 PM (VE0cN)

210 re: "Secret Patriots? No. Simply liberals."

Simply Democrats.

A liberal media would be shitting all over Obama for his Ugly American military adventures, calling him President Goldman Sachs, wailing about minority unemployment, wouldn't stand for the scapegoating of anti-religious video makers, etc. And they wouldn't go into Bloombergian Puritan furies over caffeinated booze, "bath salts," fats, corn syrup, immorality in media (sexist video games, etc.), etc.

And—etc.

Not liberal. Partisan.

Kaus is a lying asshole and/or chump.

Posted by: oblig. at November 15, 2012 01:37 PM (cePv8)

211 199 Jakeman,

Mine is still alive, bless his soul a 70 YO man with several kids, marriages, bankruptcies, successes, failures, and a lot of bewildered rage at the last 12 years.

We need to organize and we need to make sure we try to raise each other more than the takers.

We'll be okay but it will not be fun.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:37 PM (LRFds)

212 206 tasker,

I am either angry or about to cry from rage thinking about it.

It is time to think and adjust goals to what is likely in the near future.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:38 PM (LRFds)

213
Progs can't count.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 15, 2012 01:38 PM (lOmbq)

214 48 I will be hitting retirement age right around the time that Social Security is going to be broke. Well, broker than it is now since it's actually utterly broke but everyone lies that it's not. I've known this since I started worked when I was around 14 years old.

------

Yeah. I also knew that everything causes cancer, so my retirement plan has always been (since I was a wee little tyke) to die of cancer before turning 50. Well, that's next year and I'm still kicking around. #FML

Posted by: Citizen Anachronda at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (FzhYM)

215 I know most of you are just funning but reading the same thing, over and over, is a pretty big deflator.


I know it has to seem different after several years (and I know it took quite a while to get where you are), but I would commit a low grade misdemeanor if I had a loyal enough following that commenters would give me crap in my comments.

I'm pretty sure several of us in the Horde with blogs feel the same way.

BTW, I just realized- I've been blogging for right at a year, now. I should probably put a post up about that...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (5DR1j)

216
This post wasn't too long, and it wasn't too short. It was just right.


(like Little Red Riding Hood's third bowl of porridge)

Posted by: concrete girl at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (y2Ojs)

217 I just lumped all of the gimme free shit crowd under the LOSER rubric.
Obama won because the majority of the electorate now thinks of
themselves as losers, and they chose to vote for the safety net provider
rather than the facilitator of economic opportunity and growth.



Except the latte liberals in the eight wealthiest counties...they
refuse to cast a vote for Romney, even though he more resembles them
than does obama - because they refuse to validate any GOP candidate due
to socon wing of the party.


The latte liberals vote the way they do out of superiority. They like to feel special and elite.

It is safe to denigrate Christians (even Catholics nowadays) whereas the race angle blinds them from being embarrassed that they're in the same party with the Obamapho' lady.

Of course, maybe they like it. She doesn't demand to have a role in or influence in the party. She doesn't demand leadership positions. She's content to be ruled by the latte liberals.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (xSegX)

218 Liberalism is its own nation, its own farflung tribe, its own Fifth Column within any country it infests. The "patriotism" postulated by Kaus is simply a loyalty to the Grand Progressive Cause.

It is not a patriotism of country ; it is simply a insurrection on the sly.


Damn!! That's well put!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (X3lox)

219 OT but Ezra Klein at WaPo is already worried that if Obama appoints Kerry defense secretary that Scott Brown will win the special election and the GOP will pwn in 2014 since a bunch of red-state Dems are up for reelection

do we have polls for 2014 yet? it's only two years away

Posted by: JDP at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (60GaT)

220 For a long time I used to go to bed early.


Posted by: how marcel proust begins a long post at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (qaVK+)

221 Old news, but isn't it something how the same people that drone on about science with things like climate change refuse to acknowledge simple mathematics? The smug self satisfaction they have for being in the must expand government control club, under the umbrella of "science", and then an absolute unwillingness to be part of the must have a modest government club when it comes to math.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 15, 2012 01:40 PM (d4o2E)

222 You can trust me, listen to my soothing voice.


Posted by: Harry Reid at November 15, 2012 01:35 PM (60GaT)

The cows in the cornfield are calling for cuddlin'.The cowboys are eating free government cheese.All is well. All is well.And in 2016 vote for me please.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 15, 2012 01:41 PM (Hx5uv)

223 We (in my humble opinion) need to look at the issues we face here; which seems to be increasing in stupidity everyday, as what I see are the three legs of the stool.

1. Education
2. Media
3. Politicians

Notice that all three legs have been turned on the lathe of liberalism (i.e., lies and deceit) and have created a weakness which we can exploit. #3 is what we use to change our course, but it has become corrupted by fraud promoted by #2.

#1 is the leg which will take the longest to pull out due to the teachers unions etc. Which leads me to our main culprit the #2 media. We should begin applying their own Alinsky tactics against them in an effort to discredit them and expose them for the frauds they are.

Via infiltrating their blogs and disseminating tidbits of misinformation to work to our advantage. While I am quite sure that Obamaphone lady doesn't regularly read "Motherjones" it is still worth a shot.

Until we can take out the propaganda leg (to stay with my analogy) of the libtards we will never win the fight. Every effort needs to be made to bring them down to ruins. As I read on a previous thread it was stated that "Brietbart would have been rollerblading right through the giddy libs the day after the election".

*only trying to initiate a discussion about real solutions to our ever increasing problems Vs just sitting back and bitching. If I am out of line do not hesitate to tell me to STFU

Posted by: Jimmy at November 15, 2012 01:41 PM (Gk5QE)

224 We'll be okay but it will not be fun.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:37 PM (LRFds)
Probably it won't. But for me, it's worth everything. I'm done with these evil bastards. My compromising will be with my friends who are on my side.

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:41 PM (BoE3Z)

225
@156 AmishDude
The long posts ARE the blog. Meaningful and substantial. It's what makes this the best damned blog on the Net.
I beg to differ. LGF is the bestest blog in the world. This place is just racist.Now I bid you adieu.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at November 15, 2012 01:41 PM (f+TdG)

226 219 JDP,

I guess we need to ask Nat Sliver....

God I hate politics.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:41 PM (LRFds)

227 203 Mickey Kaus is a bigot. Never, ever forget that. He is not an ally. He is merely convenient from time to time to conservatives, but nothing more. I will never forget a Ricochet podcast from over a year ago that featured a discussion between David Limbaugh and Mickey Kaus. Before the podcast was even halfway finished, Mickey began spewing hatred for Republicans. He flatly accused Republicans of being inherently racist. The man is a scumbag. I'm pretty sure this is the podcast below:

http://is.gd/eacx57
Posted by: George Orwell what knows the chocolate ration only goes up at November 15, 2012 01:35 PM (Lxw+T)

__________________

I've made it my secret patriotic duty-to expose them.

That was always my game--my raison d'être.

Posted by: Mickey Kaus at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (r2PLg)

228 Hey Ace, got my whole family reading you including my 78 y. o. mom. We think your writing is at least as good as Mark Steyn will all the snark of, well, Ace.

Posted by: Fartist at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (a3s5J)

229 I know it has to seem different after several
years (and I know it took quite a while to get where you are), but I
would commit a low grade misdemeanor if I had a loyal enough following
that commenters would give me crap in my comments.

I'm pretty sure several of us in the Horde with blogs feel the same way.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (5DR1j)



Oh, man. This is low-hanging fruit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (QKKT0)

230 >>>Love the long posts. Also love complaining about long posts. Annoyed that you've vowed not to post your Prometheus review.

It's not really a vow. It was just that it was about half done, and I thought I was saying something interesting. Turns out, it's already everyone's opinion.

It's hard to write something long when you realize everyone already thinks it.

I did want to goof on the bad screenplay, though, specific stuff.

Maybe I'll write something short about that.

Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (LCRYB)

231 Per the 2012 Social Security Trustees report:

Present value of unfunded OASI liabilities: $7.4 trillion

Present values of unfunded DI liabilities: $1.2 trillion.

In other words, disability is a fraction of the problem that social security is. (which in turn is a fraction of the problem that SS is)

Posted by: somebody else, not me at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (nZvGM)

232 Lay off of the guy who writes the part above the comments.

Posted by: Butters at November 15, 2012 01:44 PM (NIZHJ)

233
"I did want to goof on the bad screenplay, though, specific stuff.



Maybe I'll write something short about that."

Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (LCRYB)
You mean something about the fact that the movie was an oil painting?

Posted by: tubal at November 15, 2012 01:44 PM (BoE3Z)

234 I know it has to seem different after several years (and I know it took quite a while to get where you are), but I would commit a low grade misdemeanor if I had a loyal enough following that commenters would give me crap in my comments.I'm pretty sure several of us in the Horde with blogs feel the same way.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at November 15, 2012 01:39 PM (5DR1j)
Oh, man. This is low-hanging fruit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (QKKT0)


Eh, those grapes are sour, anyway.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 15, 2012 01:45 PM (zF6Iw)

235 229 Cicero,

Careful now or we'll fake it just to get to see COPS in Redville....

no all kidding aside we need to get organized and we need something that can be pointed at at mid-terms as progress.

The GOP are middlemen between us and the guys we really want protected the job creators and dissidents from moonbatville.

A politician is there to protect the bill of rights and fiscal sanity.

The US cannot be removed from entitlements and welfare like a heroin addict if it is at all possible to wean them.

We have about 25 million voters who need deprogrammed.

People your school boards are the next battleground.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:45 PM (LRFds)

236 Do the krugmans of the world really believe their economic ideas work or do they know they don't and are purposely causing job losses to get more people in the welfare wagon to grow their voting block?

Posted by: L, just L at November 15, 2012 01:46 PM (0PiQ4)

237 People your school boards are the next battleground.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 01:45 PM (LRFds)
------------------------------------------------------
Amen Brother

Posted by: Jimmy at November 15, 2012 01:46 PM (Gk5QE)

238 I just lumped all of the gimme free shit crowd under the LOSER rubric.

I was watching some show the past week that was showing the fault lines that run through California. Now this was after burning the 'county by county' red/blue map into my brain and I had an ethanol fueled epiphany -- so it's value is therefor suspect, but I wondered if you took all the areas that are one major earthquake away from disappearing, all the cities that are one terrorist with a small nuke away from crumbling, this entire country is pretty damned red. Except for the people who seem to gravitate to places that are pretty damn dangerous. Losers in my book.

So the second -- once again ethanol fueled -- epiphany was that the reason they don't give a fuck about the future is part and parcel of their lives -- they don't see a future.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 15, 2012 01:50 PM (feFL6)

239 What's the Donk's plans for when the free shit money runs out, and they have gutted the important stuff (like defense)? Tax the fuck out of everyone, just to keep their narcissistic followers happy? First time they start taking their free shit away from them, you's see OWS, version 2.0 break out (just think of hippy guy/girl screaming for their free stuff).

When you suck the Barbed Cock of Satan, bad shit happens....

LET. IT. BURN.

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at November 15, 2012 01:50 PM (Jls4P)

240 http://tinyurl.com/cfwp4ps


Fox 19 anchor back on the air after suspension for calling Rachel Maddow an 'angry young man' on Facebook

SO what did she get suspended for??

Posted by: Evilpens at November 15, 2012 01:53 PM (ck76k)

241
The Repub's have been demagogued to death in every election cycly since the 60's by the Dem's on SS. I hope the Repub leadership will finally smartin' up in 2014 and pledge that SSwill not be touched by them. Use the Dem's own cynical strategy against them. Say it over and over, we won't touch it.
Sure, that is irresponsible. But it helps you win elections as the Dem's have demonstrated time and again. Let it burn, Baby!

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 01:56 PM (VDovR)

242 The only suggestion I would make is to put up a teaser, then the bulk of your post under a link to open up. It helps keep the blog looking cleaner.

Your assumption that post-1996 technology exists on this blog is adorable.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2012 01:57 PM (B/VB5)

243
Do the krugmans of the world really believe their economic ideas work or do they know they don't and are purposely causing job losses to get more people in the welfare wagon to grow their voting block?

It's a little bit of both, IMO. What passes for economics education these days contains nothing of what I learned back in the '70's. Back then, it was well understood that wealth was created through capitalism. Any mention of "exploitation" came later, as Leftardismness began to take hold.

Notice the emotional factor and its weight in the concept of "exploitation." Note the hollowness of the charge. The concept of working in exchange for money is totally ignored, as is trade among nations. Little Billy Ayers based his whole psychotic writings on this false premise, which he still preaches today, wrongly.

In a free market, employees (and I use that word instead of the Socialist term "worker" that is suddenly becoming so popular) are free to seek other employers, better pay and benefits. The heavy hand of government, with its rules and regulations, now makes that virtually impossible.

There is a direct correlation between the amount of government intervention in the economy and a decrease in growth, as we are all seeing. What was once common knowledge is now considered "radical" by the radical leftists who have infiltrated the education indoctrination system. Want to turn this around? Start waging war against the outright lies taught in our schools and colleges.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did no vote for this shit. at November 15, 2012 01:59 PM (lOmbq)

244 Dude...Rachel Maddow is...gay?

Posted by: comatus at November 15, 2012 01:59 PM (qaVK+)

245 This is an excellent essay.

Posted by: Cricket at November 15, 2012 01:59 PM (DrC22)

246 RE 54:

Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men. For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard, the bitch that bore him is in heat again.

Berchtold Brecht

Posted by: Jaylord at November 15, 2012 02:01 PM (RuF8n)

247 Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:42 PM (LCRYB)

I actually read the original screenplay that was linked in the sidebar the other day. I didn't hate Prometheus but I think it would have been much better had they stuck with the first script.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at November 15, 2012 02:03 PM (qFpRI)

248
@ 240
Hey, that's my line! I've been saying it, and posting it, for years. It used to be "that angry young man that comes on after Olbermann" but that hasn't been operable since PMSNBC shit-canned bathtub boy.

Posted by: ronnie raygun at November 15, 2012 02:03 PM (VDovR)

249 Republicans should just tell them. "Hey when you are ready to agree to our terms then call us. Meanwhile we will be on the golf course, etc."
They shouldnt even go to the Senate. Let Reid have the SGT at Arms round them up. Have them go to a motel in Indiana and hide out like the dems did in Wisconsin.
Since we control the House. Dont do anything in the House at all.

Lets all go over the cliff together.

Posted by: retired military at November 15, 2012 02:09 PM (SElov)

250 I seriously do not know how Pelosi and Reid sleep at night.

On piles of money, with many beautiful boys.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 15, 2012 02:17 PM (QupBk)

251 249 Lets all go over the cliff together.

...Regardless of her ability to pay.

Posted by: Rob McNeece at November 15, 2012 02:18 PM (hNXHo)

252 Your assumption that post-1996 technology exists on this blog is adorable.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 15, 2012 01:57 PM (B/VB5)


Hey now we're at least solid, proven year 2000 technology - just minus the ampersands.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 15, 2012 02:25 PM (pAlYe)

253 "Dude...Rachel Maddow is...gay?"
==========

No way! That dude is always banging chicks!

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 02:27 PM (znT2j)

254 Ace! Write the long Prometheus review! Even if your opinion isn't unique, the way you express it will be!

Besides, it's been six months now! It will seem novel again because everybody else stopped talking about six months ago.

Posted by: Kensington at November 15, 2012 02:28 PM (znT2j)

255 The biggest tax of all is inflating the dollar. It's a stealthy way for the government toloot the value of savings.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 15, 2012 02:35 PM (w41GQ)

256 ine. If so, I'll just do that. Easier for me, better for you.





Posted by: ace at November 15, 2012 01:00 PM (LCRYB)

I think he's joshing.
It was a good post.

Posted by: President F***up Obama at November 15, 2012 02:36 PM (xAtAj)

257 SCOAMF sock off!

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at November 15, 2012 02:36 PM (xAtAj)

258 “I’m giving you my personal feelings about where we need to go. Take care of the middle class and have the richest of the rich contribute a little bit to helping our economy,” he said.

Because the Rich aren't contributing anything at all, right Harry?

See how the dialogue changes - it goes from 'not doing enough' to not doing anything.

Fine by me - Gates and Buffett are both libs. Let's tax 90% of their wealth. Not their income; their WEALTH.

We'll call it the 'Warren Buffett Patriot Rule.

Posted by: blindside at November 15, 2012 02:46 PM (x7g7t)

259 258 Blindisde,

the problem dear friend is bracket creep...

anything done to them is almost certain to at some point trickle down to you.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 02:54 PM (LRFds)

260 Well, I guess my position that vote fraud laws should be enforced may still mark me as an outsider, but it`s good to see the MFM delenda est position gathering steam.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith`s eReader at November 15, 2012 03:08 PM (bxiXv)

261 260 mero,

Mero it is not that I disagree I am about 55-75% certain it is just that I am pretty sure i could have ironclad proof of the fraud being outside the margin of loss and they WOULD NOT CARE....

evidence?

The media firestorm over Stuart Smalley.

They won;t leave once seated without blood.

They seceded from us in 2000-2001 over this very topic.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 15, 2012 03:13 PM (LRFds)

262
No one has explained to him that $80 billion per year is not equal to our $1.whatever trillion per year deficit. It's less than 1%.

Umm. $80 B would be one percent of $8 Trillion. It's 5% of $1.6 Trillion.

Math is hard.

Posted by: NukemHill at November 15, 2012 07:25 PM (7WLzC)

263 Let Obama have his tax on the rich.

Then come out with our list:

No more tax free muni bonds. Make sure to have the examples of super rich people who pay no taxes using this tax shelter ready, because it would hurt Dems and city government the most. But it would be healthy.

No more deductions of state taxes. Sorry you love in a blue state, but pay your fair share. Again, this helps the wealthy - make sure to have an evil Democrat to use as a prop.

50% excise tax on lawyers payouts from law suits. Find some medical class action case where the lawyers took most of the money leaving pennies for those affected. Don't worry, the lawyer will 99% be a Democrat scumbag lawyer.

Remove hollywood tax cuts. Bring back taxes on movies we had after WWII to pay for the war. Explain to libs that we need to pay for Iraq this way. If they say its not fair ask if Harry Truman was evil?

Taxes on hipsters. Bear oil, patchouli, fixed gear bikes...make its so!

Start an NGO tax for all NGO's that have any salaies above 250k. Sorry, but why should people working for charities get paid like they are the 1%?

Posted by: Sexypig at November 16, 2012 02:33 AM (NfAQ+)

264 i/ test

Posted by: Critic at November 19, 2012 11:52 AM (BVkEs)






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