Overnight Open Thread (11-12-2012)

Well I'm back in the US - all exhausted and jet-lagged and with my sausage contraband unconfiscated. Sometime the system fails us.

"Haircut" by Ring Lardner

This is a classic short story that I had forgotten all about until logprof mentioned it a week or two back.

I got another barber that comes over from Carterville and helps me out Saturdays, but the rest of the time I can get along all right alone. You can see for yourself that this ain't no New York: City and besides that, the most of the boys works all day and don't have no leisure to drop in here and get themselves prettied up.

You're a newcomer, ain't you? I thought I hadn't seen you round before. I hope you like it good enough to stay. As I say, we ain't no New York City or Chicago, but we have pretty good times. Not as good, though, since Jim Kendall got killed. When he was alive, him and Hod Meyers used to keep this town in an uproar. I bet they was more laughin' done here than any town its size in America.

...

It's only a few pages long - so just go read the whole thing here.

By the end you should have caught on to the sub-text. If not, read it again or cheat and go here for a quick analysis.

What does it say about human nature and how does this apply to our modern politics? Discuss.

Quote of the Day

After he was defeated for reelection in 1989, New York Mayor Ed Koch was asked if he would ever run for office again. "No," Koch replied. "The people have spoken - and they must be punished." Indeed.

The Last Days of Romneyland

I hate to pile on but this just seems inept and thoughtless.

From the moment Mitt Romney stepped off stage Tuesday night, having just delivered a brief concession speech he wrote only that evening, the massive infrastructure surrounding his campaign quickly began to disassemble itself.

Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.

It's a shame the Romney campaign didn't reflect the skills and virtues of Romney the man.

The Sad Tale of John McAfee

Once worth over $100 million after selling his anti-virus software company while in his 30s, he's now worth far, far less, wanted for murder in Belize and on the run. How did this all happen? Well read this article and then the one above and you'll start to see. I consider his story a cautionary tale about becoming super-rich without a driving purpose in life.

article-2149904-134C885F000005DC-301_634x423 

30 Years Ago: A Look Back at 1982

Time Bandits, Delorean, Ed Asner, and the Johnny Wadd.

TimeBandits

How Hot Dogs Are Made

For once a video showing how a food is made that isn't entirely disgusting. Mostly because people's expectations for hot dog are set so low. Me - I'm getting hankerin' for some dogs.

Heh: Taylor Lautner says werewolf-on-infant love is a "touchy subject"

Twilight-Breaking-Daw-Part-2

And John Cusack is making a Rush Limbaugh biography. What could possibly go wrong?

Oh and the Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [773 comments] 'sven10077' [108.50 posts/day]
2 [769 comments] 'Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney'
3 [572 comments] 'Samwise Gamgee the 3rd'
4 [462 comments] 'tasker'
5 [457 comments] 'J.J. Sefton'
6 [454 comments] 'Vic'
7 [437 comments] 'BCochran1981'
8 [402 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
9 [383 comments] 't-bird'
10 [375 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [74 names] 'Adam' [10.39 unique names/day]
2 [56 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
3 [49 names] 't-bird'
4 [45 names] 'Butters'
5 [33 names] 'andycanuck'
6 [33 names] 'Armando'
7 [32 names] 'Doctor Fish'
8 [30 names] 'Truck Monkey'
9 [29 names] 'Federal feelings'
10 [24 names] 'kbdabear'

The Yahoo AoSHQ group. Bla bla bla.

And my twitter thang.

Tonight's post brought to you by 1942 (click for full-size):

1942-06-18-Klau-mine-rommel

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Comments

1 1st
!

Posted by: jake in ID at November 12, 2012 10:13 PM (2CiZb)

2 oh, and thanks, Maetenloch


Posted by: jake in ID at November 12, 2012 10:13 PM (2CiZb)

3 That was a hell of a gun fight. Suck on this you Nazi pukes!!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 12, 2012 10:13 PM (DBH1h)

4 Wow, so you had a lot of sausage packed?

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 12, 2012 10:13 PM (Ohhk6)

5 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts?

Posted by: Jmel at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (c+D8V)

6 I love Time Bandits. Sean Connery at his best.

Posted by: huerfano at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (bAGA/)

7 How do you spell Eric Holder in communist? .... cock... cocksuc ... oh, hell, I will have to look it up.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (DBH1h)

8 We Answer to a Higher Authority

Posted by: Hebrew National at November 12, 2012 10:16 PM (LgtIL)

9 Maet, you are the Man.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2012 10:17 PM (z9HTb)

10 >>Me - I'm getting hankerin' for some dogs.

Weird, so am I.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 12, 2012 10:17 PM (5Vuz/)

11 Roomy

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 10:17 PM (QupBk)

12 Again, Anthony Weiner Dude for FBI chief:
http://is.gd/gn49dr

Posted by: Gerry at November 12, 2012 10:18 PM (MzQaI)

13 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 10:18 PM (JMmQ9)

14 I didn't know that they made sausage in Hawaii! Or Tahiti! No fair, making it sound all mysterious and cold, when it was a desert island kind of thing!!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 12, 2012 10:18 PM (DBH1h)

15 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts?

Posted by: Jmel at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (c+D8V)

"All In"

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at November 12, 2012 10:18 PM (GRvW4)

16 And Time Bandits sucked hard.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 10:18 PM (QupBk)

17 You know, now that you mention it, I could go for a weiner.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at November 12, 2012 10:19 PM (Pn5C4)

18 Must we really see how weiners are made?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:20 PM (UOM48)

19 That hotdog batter looks suspiciously like Brown25.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 10:21 PM (QupBk)

20 Thanks for bringing up "Haircut." That was almost a throwaway post, but it was one of the few things I read as a high school senior that has stuck with me for two decades.

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 10:21 PM (jKE+Z)

21 Content? WTF?

I thought this was a "comment oriented blog"

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (JTnC2)

22 and of course, YouTube has the Brown 25 commercial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=008BPUdQ1XA

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (QupBk)

23 I'm about to take one of my husband's Ambiens.

I'm not responsible for whatever I may post later.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (UOM48)

24 why is that girl flying and grabbing that lion?

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (EZl54)

25 Sweet, two trolls (or annoying enough to qualify) in the top commenters.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (GEICT)

26 Anybody else hear about this Fist Me Elmo doll?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:23 PM (nkiQM)

27 6 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts?
Posted by: Jmel at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (c+D8V)
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Damn happy to see it, the question now will be are people going to stand up for them and help or just resort to being spectators?

Posted by: Jimmy at November 12, 2012 10:23 PM (Gk5QE)

28 25 I'm about to take one of my husband's Ambiens.

I'm not responsible for whatever I may post later.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (UOM4



Yes!!! Hahaha! Ambien fun time!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:24 PM (GEICT)

29 Meanwhile Ranger Obama is now feeding Yogi the Moocher Bear all the pic-a-nick baskets he can eat. Honey Boo Boo Bear has no comment on advice from his lawyers.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 12, 2012 10:24 PM (4nG/u)

30 Good *ow* evening.

I posted this in the previous thread. Here it is again for those that missed it.

Song Of The Lonely Mountain from The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:24 PM (LUnTP)

31 Well I'm back in the US A.S.S.

The American Socialist Superstate. Get used to it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 10:25 PM (X3lox)

32 WHOOPS!

Song Of The Lonely Mountain

http://www1.rollingstone.com/hearitnow/player/neilfinn.html

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:25 PM (LUnTP)

33 What does any of this have to do with Petraus nailing Jill Kelly?

Posted by: Mr pink at November 12, 2012 10:25 PM (X/nTQ)

34 I'm about to take one of my husband's Ambiens.

I'm not responsible for whatever I may post later.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM (UOM4


boobie pics??

Posted by: MoRON #3 at November 12, 2012 10:25 PM (2CiZb)

35 Three days after Paula Broadwell entered the center of national controversy, FBI agents Monday evening entered her family’s Dilworth home and appeared to be searching both floors.

The four or five agents brought cardboard boxes used for carrying papers and were on both floors of the home. About a dozen members of the local and national media gathered. It wasn’t immediately clear what the agents were focused on.

Broadwell’s apparent affair with retired Army Gen. David Petraeus, who is married, led him to resign Friday as CIA director. Broadwell’s Charlotte neighbor Sarah Curme said Monday that Broadwell, her husband and two young sons were doing pretty well considering the circumstances. Broadwell marked her 40th birthday over the weekend with family in Washington, D.C.
--
In a January interview with the Observer, Broadwell talked about how much she relied on her husband, friends and family to help with child care while she wrote her book, “All In: The Education of General Petraeus.”

fromm Charlotte Observer tonight

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2012 10:25 PM (Dnbau)

36
Hey, guess what's the second most important news story on the planet right now, according to Yahoo! News trending:

Denise Richards Adopts A Puppy In Wake Of Hurricane Sandy




We're doomed...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 10:27 PM (kdS6q)

37 One should never see how sausages or laws are made.

Posted by: CMU VET at November 12, 2012 10:27 PM (dPSpR)

38 Anthony Weiner = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:27 PM (DoZD+)

39 I'm confused how anyone can make an "unauthorized" biopic. You know at the end of movies when they say, "Any similarity to any person living or dead is coincidence" ? Pretty sure you can't just make a movie about someone without their permission.

Can you make a plausibly deniable fake biopic ? Sure. Don't know if that's what Cusack is making, but I honestly don't see how someone could make a movie about someone without their permission.

Posted by: deadrody at November 12, 2012 10:27 PM (DkAJe)

40 I'm about to take an ambien as well.

Jane, find a new doc ASAP. No joke, doctors and lawyers you must have absolute faith in, otherwise, what's the point.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 12, 2012 10:28 PM (JTnC2)

41 Is that John McAfee or Chuck Negron? Maybe with enough drugs you just end up looking like Negron.

Posted by: no good deed at November 12, 2012 10:28 PM (mjR67)

42 If you're not first, you're :LAST !!

Posted by: Ricky Bobby! at November 12, 2012 10:28 PM (Md8Uo)

43 "16 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts? "

I am having fun with the fact that the WH will have to waste their time looking into this. Texas will never secede, but we can have fun dreaming of Constitutional Republic since we don't live in one anymore.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 10:28 PM (MQ8WD)

44 I am sure Rush would rather have Broadwell do his bio, not Cusack

Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2012 10:28 PM (Dnbau)

45 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts?
Posted by: Jmel at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (c+D8V)

1. The petition should more properly go to Congress.

2. It's totally facepalm worthy. I'm as disappointed by the election as anyone here but am I really the only one that doesn't want to leave the country? Everyone is acting like a bunch of flippin' Hollywood leftists.

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (LUnTP)

46 Sweet, two trolls (or annoying enough to qualify) in the top commenters.
Don't be so hard on yourself, BCochran1981!
;^)

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (nkiQM)

47 Maetonloch,

Are you freaking kidding? I read the summary. You want us to read something depressing now as if we haven't all been sucker punched and pistol whipped enough? You're a meanie. It's the equivalent of handing out cyanide pills.

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (0PiQ4)

48 Huh. Just heard on Greta that Susan Rice is a name being considered for Sec of St.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (Puzo7)

49 >
Must we really see how weiners are made?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:20 PM (UOM4

wieners aren't made, they're BORN

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (8sCoq)

50 evening Maet my wife just mocked me.

She said "you post off and on for maybe 3 4 days and are back at #1 get a girlfriend.

Um...."worried?'

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:30 PM (LRFds)

51 What, there's an ONT, too?!?!? I'm so confused!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:30 PM (kaalw)

52 John Cusack = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:30 PM (DoZD+)

53 Denise Richards Adopts A Puppy In Wake Of Hurricane Sandy


Denise Richards....http://tinyurl.com/abaejxd


NSFW obv

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:30 PM (GEICT)

54 Time Bandits was a great movie.

http://youtu.be/H2wrte1ijlY

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 10:30 PM (jKE+Z)

55
So if Texas secedes legally, then what?

Technically, the rest of America gets a lot more Lefty Democrat.

Does Governor Perry still make it fun and easy for illegals to get into Texas and "Dream" about the future?

Just wondering. Because if he doesn't, it will only be a generation until Texas is no different than the rest of the US. Except more Texany, or something like that.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:31 PM (Md8Uo)

56 40
Anthony Weiner = white = going to Hell


Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:27 PM

40
Anthony Weiner = white = a Joo = going to Hell

Posted by: Louis Farrakhan at November 12, 2012 10:31 PM (wwsoB)

57 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts?



Posted by: Jmel at November 12, 2012 10:15 PM (c+D8V)


I'm guessing that if Texas really did decide to leave the Union, they wouldn't ask for permission, they'd just tell that JEF to go fuck himself.

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (kpCLl)

58 I just got around to looking in My Sunday Paper and looked at the Ideas section where the paper had a pic of Obama and Family. The funny thing was TOTUS was in the picture as well.

Posted by: Picric at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (Y92X9)

59 Just finished with the alternate Prometheus script in the sidebar.

I'd only call it marginally better than what the hot mess which was actually filmed.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (GH//x)

60 48 Sweet, two trolls (or annoying enough to qualify) in the top commenters.
Don't be so hard on yourself, BCochran1981!
;^)



Now that's just hurtful.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (GEICT)

61 Perhaps the GOP should adopt this as their platform:

The Sharon Statement

Adopted in conference at Sharon, Connecticut, on 11 September 1960.
In this time of moral and political crises, it is the responsibility of the youth of America to affirm certain eternal truths.

We, as young conservatives, believe:

That foremost among the transcendent values is the individual's use of his God-given free will, whence derives his right to be free from the restrictions of arbitrary force;

That liberty is indivisible, and that political freedom cannot long exist without economic freedom;

That the purpose of government is to protect those freedoms through the preservation of internal order, the provision of national defense, and the administration of justice;

That when government ventures beyond these rightful functions, it accumulates power, which tends to diminish order and liberty;

That the Constitution of the United States is the best arrangement yet devised for empowering government to fulfill its proper role, while restraining it from the concentration and abuse of power;

That the genius of the Constitution- the division of powers- is summed up in the clause that reserves primacy to the several states, or to the people, in those spheres not specifically delegated to the Federal government;

That the market economy, allocating resources by the free play of supply and demand, is the single economic system compatible with the requirements of personal freedom and constitutional government, and that it is at the same time the most productive supplier of human needs;

That when government interferes with the work of the market economy, it tends to reduce the moral and physical strength of the nation; that when it takes from one man to bestow on another, it diminishes the incentive of the first, the integrity of the second, and the moral autonomy of both;

That we will be free only so long as the national sovereignty of the United States is secure; that history shows periods of freedom are rare, and can exist only when free citizens concertedly defend their rights against all enemies;

That the forces of international Communism are, at present, the greatest single threat to these liberties;

That the United States should stress victory over, rather than coexistance with, this menace; and

That American foreign policy must be judged by this criterion: does it serve the just interests of the United States?

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (sZTYJ)

62 Huh. Just heard on Greta that Susan Rice is a name being considered for Sec of St.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (Puzo7)

More worrisome than that there's a headline on Drudge that says Obummer is considering John F'in Kerry as Secretary of Defense.

Doomed, we are.

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (LUnTP)

63 Katya, stop it, you're making me laugh.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (Md8Uo)

64
Katya, stop it, you're making me laugh




Yeah, hypocrisy cracks me up.



Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:34 PM (DoZD+)

65 64 Huh. Just heard on Greta that Susan Rice is a name being considered for Sec of St.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (Puzo7)
More worrisome than that there's a headline on Drudge that says Obummer is considering John F'in Kerry as Secretary of Defense.
Doomed, we are.
Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (LUnTP)


Yep we're through the looking glass. Up is down, black is white, and the British are now in charge of cooking and auto design.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2012 10:34 PM (pAlYe)

66 Roberto, how's life? Sticking with the workouts?

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 12, 2012 10:34 PM (JTnC2)

67 It finally happened though Mirror universe mitt Romney is my wingman....

I will try to spare you guys my posts I'll be around if you need me.

We'll beat this and i am getting ready to be ready when you're ready.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (LRFds)

68 Now that's just hurtful.
Cruel but fair.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (nkiQM)

69 The Texas secession petition might be a warning shot to TFG and his control freak EPA

"You want to shut down our oil industry? Here's a giant fuck you"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (wwsoB)

70 59

Peaches

I'm smiling. Thanks.

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (0PiQ4)

71 Posted by: Thunderb at November 12, 2012 10:25 PM (Dnbau)

Wait.... FBI said there were no charges pending... NOW they search....

Shades of the guy who made the movie they blamed Benghazi on....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (lZBBB)

72 I'm interested in the'crime' Pretrayus's squeeze commited

Posted by: MoRON #3 at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (2CiZb)

73 Political Hat, that was totally awesome.

Posted by: Mindy at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (6jLT3)

74 "64 Huh. Just heard on Greta that Susan Rice is a name being considered for Sec of St.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 12, 2012 10:29 PM (Puzo7)"

You know, a week ago that might have made me apoplectic. This "let it burn" shit is liberating.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 10:36 PM (KPIvn)

75 Semi perm post until it sinks in for the slow witted trolls

Here is all you need to know about how doing another round of amnesty will go.

Many of you are probably unaware, but the GOP used to own California.

Richard Nixon, yes that Richard Nixon, was a congressman and Senator
and Reagan was Governor from '67 to '75.

Do you think men such as these will ever be elected in California ever again.

Surely not!

A Brief History of the Presidential Voting History for California with a little background

1965 - Immigration and Nationality Act Passes
Ted Kennedy: "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million
immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration
remains substantially the same... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country
will not be upset.... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not
inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most
populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia....
"In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed
measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."

THIS AS WE KNOW WAS A LIE

1968 - GOP
1972 - GOP.
1976 - GOP.
1980 - GOP.
1984 - GOP.

1986 - Simpson/Mazzoli Amnesty Act Passes. Largest general amnesty for illegal immigrants due to our cities being flooded by the '65 act.

1988 - GOP.
1992 - DEM.
1996 - DEM.

1996 - Illegal Immigration Reform and Responsibility act - Smoke and mirrors that was neither reform nor responsible.
It's main function was to water down sponsership requirements putting chain migration on steroids.

2000 - DEM.
2004 - DEM.

2008 - The political class tries to do another round of amnesty but is rebuffed by public outcry

2008 - DEM.
2012 - DEM.


California is now entirely Democrat and will never vote for another GOP President again
because of massive unchecked illegal immigration to that state.

Here is an article from the PEW center on hispanic voting patterns.

http://tinyurl.com/6uuc4

No Democrat has received less than 56% of the hispanic vote.

Two years after signing the largest general amnesty for Hispanics, the GOP nominee garnered 30% of the hispanic vote.

John "Mr Amnesty" McCain received 31% of the hispanic vote.

George W. Bush did the best with 40% of the hispanic vote.

On average Democrats get 65% of the hispanic vote.

The GOP will be committing suicide if it does another round of amnesty

This is the fate that awaits the country if we are stupid enough to
commit suicide but seeing as we have idiots in leadership positions and
within the ranks of the Conservative "intelligentsia" this seems the
likely outcome.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 10:36 PM (0fxcV)

76 71 KBDaBear,

okay you get it...now imagine us taking the shale states with us....

Screw you sierra club stop us.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:36 PM (LRFds)

77
Political Hat @ 63.

But what about LGBT and all that?

Seriously, what you need to take away from that is that the meeting was in Connecticut in 1960, when Connecticut was a pretty Republican state. And how long ago was it since Connecticut has voted for a Republican as President?

How about the Ripon Society, founded in Wisconsisn?

I mean really, face it, we've lost the KulturKampf (culture war), and we aren't going to get a rematch. No two falls out of three.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:36 PM (Md8Uo)

78 Re: Denise Richards. Confucius say girls who drink beer at beach party get sand in their Schlitz.

Posted by: CMU VET at November 12, 2012 10:36 PM (dPSpR)

79 "I'm guessing that if Texas really did decide to leave the Union, they wouldn't ask for permission, they'd just tell that JEF to go fuck himself."

Didn't Perry tell him that already?

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 10:37 PM (MQ8WD)

80 If Texas is leavin' then so are we .
Hell Obama lost by 20 % here .

Posted by: S. Carolina at November 12, 2012 10:37 PM (USjX1)

81 the British are now in charge of cooking and auto design.


Now see here, Old Chap! We make top-rate consumer electronics, as well.

Posted by: Lucas Electric at November 12, 2012 10:37 PM (z9HTb)

82 Let's just admit for the next four years (and beyond) we're boned.

Let's do our best to enjoy it. Lie back and think of......Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

*ducks, runs like hell, laughing maniacally all the way*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (UOM48)

83 57 CJ Burch,

No i don;t think so.

texas won't go alone, and if the red went home to texas no matter where fate had us born I don't think bad juan can stop us.

Basically fate and God say i can't have more kids....I can happily pay the girls in my Chruch who have has many as they can what I can spare.

Cultures that don't have babies have no future.

Chairty ain't welfare and charity happily given ain't humiliating to the recipient.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (LRFds)

84 how's life? Sticking with the workouts?
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 12, 2012 10:34 PM (JTnC2)

Except for feeling under the weather I think I'm doing...okay. Since my taxes are likely going up at the end up the year I've just decided to throw caution to the wind and get me a flatscreen teevee on Black Friday.

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (LUnTP)

85 More worrisome than that there's a headline on Drudge that says Obummer is considering John F'in Kerry as Secretary of Defense. Doomed, we are.
Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:32 PM (LUnTP)

Purple hearts for EVERYONE!

Posted by: Secundus at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (H1DmM)

86 Don't forget: apply for foodstamps tomorrow.


Bleed the Beast


LIB

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (EZl54)

87 70 Now that's just hurtful.

------

Cruel but fair.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (nkiQM)




And here I thought the Horde liked me...

*sob*


Well, I'm still married to an ex-NFL cheerleader, so....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (GEICT)

88 Ambien? I want one. Do I need a scrip?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (jucos)

89 How can Texas secede and not in doing so precipitate a new civil war?

Nukes.

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (sRus3)

90 Sen. Kerry would be perfect for Prez. 0's SecDef: Kerry would absolutely kill morale, just what Prez. 0 wants.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (1V6Pv)

91 Anyone else have the sudden urge to buy silver dollars?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM (nkiQM)

92
Lena Dunham: Glamour's Woman of the Year.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM (9ghZ6)

93
Sure, Susan Rice proved her loyalty to Obama by going on National TV and serially LYING for him on the morning talk shows.

She gets the Goebbels award for most sycophantic idiot in the new Regime of His Nibs.

Secretary of State, why not? Who will stop them? The Democrats have a solid majority in the Senate, and Harry Reid is going to re-write the rules for the next session and end the filibuster.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM (Md8Uo)

94 81 Mo the Girl,

now imagine if Bobby jindal and Rick perry has 35 million "we'll come with our bodies our hearts our wallets and our dreams?

No they don't get it....I am finally ready to reward them for the political shit they did for 40 years.

I remember the hate for reagan....no no mercy but I won't go alone.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM (LRFds)

95 And how's life treatin' DC, who I understand is in the land of Towson?

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM (LUnTP)

96 93 SG3,

they meant me and MUMR scooter we ain;t a tribe...yet.

We'll work on it.

Fuck you donks.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:41 PM (LRFds)

97 After watching that hot dog video, I feel physically ill. I'm really thankful I haven't eaten one since my cousin's birthday party when I was 12.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:41 PM (kaalw)

98 93
I'll cease commenting here relatively soon.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (SKX2R)



1) Promises, promises

2) Amusing that you immediately assumed I was talking about you

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:41 PM (GEICT)

99 89 BC1981,

hey how's he doing>?

Just kidding sorry sorry ow ow ow

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (LRFds)

100 So you're calling Susan Rice a Knob Goebbeller?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (nkiQM)

101 Now see here, Old Chap! We make top-rate consumer electronics, as well.


Posted by: Lucas Electric at November 12, 2012 10:37 PM

Why do the British drink warm beer?

Lucas wires their refrigerators too

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (wwsoB)

102 Ambien? I want one. Do I need a scrip?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (jucos)

No, provided your husband has one

Posted by: Secundus at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (H1DmM)

103
Silver dimes! - Ron Paul

Really, not quite so silly anymore, is it?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (Md8Uo)

104 17
And Time Bandits sucked hard.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 10:18 PM (QupBk)


Hey, I liked Time Bandits!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:43 PM (kaalw)

105 "Lena Dunham: Glamour's Woman of the Year."


Magazine for Lesbians.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 10:43 PM (MQ8WD)

106 WTF does Patraeus Love Manly looking women ?

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 10:43 PM (ck76k)

107 Or should I say a Nibs' Goebbeller?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:44 PM (nkiQM)

108 I'm even more invested in the shale thing than most morons, because my formerly worthless stepson is working in ND and finally paying his own way. For now. He blows all his money on stupid shit, so I know it won't last long. He makes more money as a little punk than I've ever even hoped to earn.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 12, 2012 10:44 PM (cQmXn)

109 I am way too high on the list this week.

I didn't find The Haircut to be a story of moral blindness, but moral convenience: "If I don't judge him harshly, I can't be blamed for his continued actions." Sure, it's good for his business, too, to take no stand.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 10:44 PM (FcR7P)

110 Hey, I liked Time Bandits!
Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:43 PM (kaalw)

One of the Showtime channels has been showing it a lot lately. I've never seen it but I did record it to my DVR.

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:44 PM (LUnTP)

111 102 89 BC1981,

hey how's he doing>?

Just kidding sorry sorry ow ow ow
Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (LRFds)



What is this? Pick on me night?

It's because I'm fucking Irish isn't it? Yeah? You wanna fuckin fight?!? Yeah? Hold on while I finish this beer and eating whatever this shit is that's been boiled for 15 hours...

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:44 PM (GEICT)

112 Hmmmm... since everyone is bailing... and to follow the Tax cheat in charge of the IRS mandate...

Susan Rice... Sec of State...

John Kerry, Sec Def....

Norman Polanski, Attorney General?

But who to head up the CIA?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM (lZBBB)

113 We have decided that anyone who signed a state secession petition is in open revolt against the federal government, and have seized all of their assets.

Anybody else want to petition??

Posted by: Obama and Friends at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM (H1DmM)

114 >>>>What does it say about human nature and how does this apply to our modern politics? Discuss.
_

Well, for one, it reminds us that Michigan is a wasteland of broken humanity.


Posted by: runninrebel at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM (J4gw3)

115 No, provided your husband has one
Posted by: Secundus at November 12, 2012 10:42 PM (H1DmM)
--------------------------------------------------------
Ummmm, I don't want to be Teh Ghey. NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM (jucos)

116 I coulda been a conteda!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke, bigger slut than Lena at November 12, 2012 10:46 PM (cQmXn)

117 He blows all his money on stupid shit, so I know it won't last long.


Change the locks while he is away.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2012 10:46 PM (z9HTb)

118 And I can only recall a few scenes from Time Bandits but vaguely recall enjoying it at the time. I'll have to see about re-watching it one day to see if I remember it/still like it.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 10:46 PM (nkiQM)

119 Ii occurs to me that they knew the election was in the bag, otherwise they'd have benched that retard Joke Biden a long time ago.

Posted by: Scratch One Republic at November 12, 2012 10:46 PM (9ghZ6)

120
Sven
You are very depressed, I get it. What the DoD is probably going to do to your wife's career, your life, you feel really low.
We all have dark days, and dark times. I have walked in some pretty dark days myself.
I grew up in Dayton, and it breaks my heart to go back there and see how it has become a "little Detroit". It's really bad. But everything in its season.

There will be a time for renewal. I know it. God has not forgotten or forsaken you, keep the faith.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:47 PM (Md8Uo)

121 I remember reading about John Titor years ago, and that shit is starting to sound scary true right about now, especially the stuff about people in the cities being the enemy.

http://tinyurl.com/47vvg

Posted by: 1984 in real life at November 12, 2012 10:47 PM (wc6pM)

122 Walter, 688 from last thread, you're not wrong...you're just an asshole

but actually, you are wrong. and no you're not an asshole (i was just quoting the movie and appreciating your sobriquet).

look at european countries... once hooked on the sauce of 'social insurance' as commissar David Frum puts it (to apologize for the left), people don't go back. that's how european countries can have 3 main parties like 'social liberals', 'social democrats' and 'socialist party' all in one country (denmark in this case). All different flavors of the same tripe...

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 10:47 PM (Kd6lF)

123 @116 SoS Zombie Yasser Arafat. He'll be exhumed soon anyway.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 12, 2012 10:47 PM (1V6Pv)

124 Time Bandits, all because of the accountant pirates.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (4nG/u)

125
Debbie Wasserman-Schulz = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (DoZD+)

126 I've been over at bluelight reading the threads that McAfee was posting:
http://tinyurl.com/bbwzkzv

Jeebus.

Maybe he and Elmo can get together in prison for some hyper-sexual proto-pleasure experiences. Assuming of course he gets his ass out of Belize...

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (Qxdfp)

127 I really don't understand why Lardner is better known. I'd never read that short story before, but that is on par with "Boule de Suif" by Guy de Maupassant. Good stuff. Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: taft at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (d2FFC)

128 45
"16 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts? "



I am having fun with the fact that the WH will have to waste their
time looking into this. Texas will never secede, but we can have fun
dreaming of Constitutional Republic since we don't live in one anymore.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 10:28 PM (MQ8WD)


I love the one about Texas having the right to become five states.....each with 2 Senators.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (kaalw)

129 Let's just admit for the next four years (and beyond) we're boned.

Let's do our best to enjoy it. Lie back and think of......Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

*ducks, runs like hell, laughing maniacally all the way*


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (UOM4

...madam.

That is a terrifying thing to say so close to bedtime. Truly ._. terrifying.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (++Z/c)

130 @117

You don't secede by signing a petition...You secede by taking up a positions along the boundary of your claimed sovereignty and defending it with force.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (uvNSk)

131 @ 116

Janet Napolitano.


Perfect fit.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2012 10:49 PM (SAMxH)

132 Guess I should start getting ready for woik.

Good night!

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:49 PM (LUnTP)

133 Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:48 PM (DoZD+)

Ewwww... thats it.... Debbie W-Shulz for head of the CIA....

"I know nuhzink! I see nuhzink!!!"

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:49 PM (lZBBB)

134 er, *isn't

Posted by: taft at November 12, 2012 10:49 PM (d2FFC)

135 Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:40 PM (Md8Uo)

It does however bring an uh-oh factor to the Let It Burn meme. If what and who are being bandied about actually get into office and there is a nuclear armed Iran then LIB has a whole new meaning.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 12, 2012 10:50 PM (Puzo7)

136 Y'all, seriously, we're going to lose the House in 2 yrs. The base is truly depressed in the clinical sense. All the fake conservatives (think Bill Kristin and pretty much everyone on Fox) are already cheerful and helpfully offering brilliant solutions to make us Democrats Lite. If our Dear Speaker does what I expect him to do, no one will come out to vote in 2 years. The Tea Party will frantically grab for shiity O'Donnell and Angles and Akins hastily to primary anyone who votes for amnesty and every other sell out. Then what?

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 10:50 PM (0PiQ4)

137 I'll cease commenting here relatively soon.

Wow, layoffs are everywhere.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 10:50 PM (FcR7P)

138 115 Posted by: BCochran1981

What is this? Pick on me night?

It's because I'm fucking Irish isn't it? Yeah? You wanna fuckin fight?!? Yeah? Hold on while I finish this beer and eating whatever this shit is that's been boiled for 15 hours...



Just don't pass out. You might be mistaken for paddy o'furniture, and hauled off to winter storage.

... [ insert various smiley faces and indications of humor attempt here ] ...

Posted by: Arbalest at November 12, 2012 10:51 PM (RrmXU)

139 Who the hell is Bill Kristen?

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 10:51 PM (0PiQ4)

140
Michigan is not a total wasteland of humanity. I've been there many times.

Detroit is an unbelievable disaster area. It beggars the imagination how bad it has become. Coleman Young got his wish. May he roast in Hell for all eternity.

But Western Michigan is full of tough, hard conservative folks who aren't going to run away. It's a beautiful place in summer, with hundreds of small lakes, the western shore of Lake Michigan.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:51 PM (Md8Uo)

141 Wow, layoffs are everywhere.


Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 10:50 PM (FcR7P)


Well, that Obama Campaign troll money has to be running out soon.... they don't need it anymore...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:51 PM (lZBBB)

142 Evenin' ya'll and welcome !


President Richard Perry
Vice President Oliver North
Secretary of State Allen West


Dallas, Texas
Republic of America
feremus, fax


what a great dream I was having!

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 12, 2012 10:51 PM (EZl54)

143 @125 Titor... "All possible quantum states, events, possibilities, and outcomes are real, eventual, and occurring. The chances of everything happening someplace at sometime in the superverse is 100%." No wonder I haven't got laid tonight.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (1V6Pv)

144 >>>Then what?
_

Then what was already going to happen happens sooner, if it won't have already happened.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (J4gw3)

145 Thanks auto correct. You're stupid.

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (0PiQ4)

146 143
Who the hell is Bill Kristen?



Bill Kristol. RINO.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (UOM48)

147 I've got it! We need Big Sis' former underlings heading up the CIA! They clearly terrorized and screwed with those they had power over. Imagine how she'd interrogate prisoners..."You'll tell me what I want to know or I'm shoving your dick in my throat!"

Come to think of it, that might work for ME terrorists...

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (GEICT)

148 "...the British are now in charge of cooking and auto design."


Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2012 10:34 PM (pAlYe)


Aiyee!!! THE MADNESS, make it stop!!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (kaalw)

149 When everybody calms down, we can talk about what can *actually* be done.

Maybe late 2013. Obviously not now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 12, 2012 10:52 PM (bxiXv)

150 Just re-read "Haircut" afresh for the first time in over 10 years. Don't want to spoil it, but best to read it sober. . . .

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 10:53 PM (jKE+Z)

151 Robert, it's beddybye time here in buttfuck, whereverthefuckiam. Cheap hotel, cheap wine, shitty job.

Other than that, really good. Time to rack out though. See y'all tomorrow night.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 12, 2012 10:53 PM (JTnC2)

152 Night DC! Good talkin to you!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:54 PM (GEICT)

153 141
I'll cease commenting here relatively soon.



Wow, layoffs are everywhere.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 10:50 PM

Come to think of it, Greg seems to have gone missing since last week

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2012 10:54 PM (wwsoB)

154 Janet Napolitano = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:55 PM (DoZD+)

155 117 Obama and friends,

see you in '14 sparky...

balls in your court.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:55 PM (LRFds)

156 Hmmmm... since everyone is bailing... and to follow the Tax cheat in charge of the IRS mandate...

Susan Rice... Sec of State...

John Kerry, Sec Def....

Norman Polanski, Attorney General?

But who to head up the CIA?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM


Julian Assange

duh

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 10:55 PM (JMmQ9)

157 The physics of the girl tackling the lion are just horrible. She tackled a pillow.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 10:55 PM (FcR7P)

158
I remember reading about John Titor years ago, and that shit is starting
to sound scary true right about now, especially the stuff about people
in the cities being the enemy.


Umm... You know I hang out here now, right?

Posted by: John Titor at November 12, 2012 10:56 PM (xKC/c)

159 116
Hmmmm... since everyone is bailing... and to follow the Tax cheat in charge of the IRS mandate...



Susan Rice... Sec of State...



John Kerry, Sec Def....



Norman Polanski, Attorney General?



But who to head up the CIA?





Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM (lZBBB)


Bradley Manning, duh!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:56 PM (kaalw)

160 @153

The grip our opponent has on the school system and media dictated our fate years ago. Do you believe that situation improves in our favor as more time passes?

I don't...just it give it all to them...vote Democrat from here on out....it is the only way the population will learn and understand our perspective.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 10:56 PM (uvNSk)

161
t-bird @ 162

Yeah, but it's THE MOVIES. People have been conditioned to believe in unbelievable nonsense because of incredible visual effects in movies.

When I played HALO 4 this weekend, I felt tough enough to defy the world.
It's an illusion.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:57 PM (Md8Uo)

162
Y'all, seriously, we're going to lose the House in 2 yrs.
Posted by: L, just




In what was supposed to be a Republicans year, with the 2010 census moving seats from Blue to Red states, with Republican control of state houses giving control of reapportionment, Team Hopeless manged to lose 8 seats and counting.

We're lucky we don't have by-elections.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 10:57 PM (kdS6q)

163 Detroit is utopia! This is what our future looks like! Everyone equally boned. Well, except for our betters.

Required viewing for all morons is Mugabe, available on Netflix instant. I'm sure most of you have seen it, but for those who want a sneak peek into our tyrannical future...

Posted by: Kalneva at November 12, 2012 10:57 PM (cQmXn)

164 124 CJ Burch,

Thanks. Guy Ohio chose. I thought I knew her I was near enough to her these last two years to be fooled.

They chose and even though they were robbed the men we entrusted let her get robbed b/c I think finally the ohio GOP is not the SW ohio GOP and Cleveland gang.

CJ it's just the cleveland gang lock stock and barrel.

I'm getting better i see the path, and while I won't conduct treason I won't stop traitors....I guess I'm a fellow traveler now.

You know like the Dunhams?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 10:58 PM (LRFds)

165 Just heard on Greta that Susan Rice is a name being considered for Sec of St.

If you're getting incompetents, you don't want to go half way, you want the full load.

Posted by: The KGB at November 12, 2012 10:58 PM (5xivT)

166 Dianne Gallagher
‏@DianneG





Someone "pranked" the media stakeout by sending pizza to Paula Broadwells home

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 10:58 PM (8sCoq)

167 @163

oh hi

Posted by: 1984 in real life at November 12, 2012 10:58 PM (wc6pM)

168 Let's just admit for the next four years (and beyond) we're boned.

Agree, Jane! I very wise man said to me today, if we can't go Galt, we can at least go Lebowski. I am so there.

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (kpCLl)

169 Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 10:55 PM (JMmQ9)


Jinx!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (kaalw)

170 Robert, what was your linen decision '12?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (cQmXn)

171 "Ewwww... thats it.... Debbie W-Shulz for head of the CIA...."

That's it. Has Texas left the Union yet?

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (MQ8WD)

172 Norman Polanski, Attorney General?

Nah. He can be assistant safe schools czar with that Ken Jennings guy.

Posted by: Obama and Friends at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (H1DmM)

173 Texas does have the right to split up.

(It had the right to secede, too; but it exercised that right already - and then it idiotically joined the Confederacy a month after that. It wasted so much money, time and troops that it fell apart and surrendered, Germany WW1 style, even though no Union troops were on its soil. So, that secession ship hath sailed. If Texas had done a Kentucky and stayed neutral in the war, it'd be independent to this day.)

(But I digress.)

Everyone needs to read Ramsdell's history of Texas after Reconstruction; it is an older book and so free on several archives. That digression just posted mostly derives from that.

In addition, it deals with the wrangling under which many Texans pondered exactly that - splitting up the state, and making new states, with El Paso going to New Mexico Territory.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 12, 2012 11:00 PM (QTHTd)

174 Who the fuck is Norman Polanski?

Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2012 11:00 PM (kpCLl)

175 159
Janet Napolitano = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 10:55 PM

Barry Obullshit .. going halfway?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 12, 2012 11:00 PM (wwsoB)

176 175
Robert, what was your linen decision '12?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (cQmXn)


IIRC, he chose a color based on its appeal to the contestants on "Project Runway".

Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 11:00 PM (kaalw)

177 But who to head up the CIA?

Comrade Ron Dellums has always been very reliable.

Posted by: The KGB at November 12, 2012 11:01 PM (5xivT)

178 A thought to consider: In 1984 the Democrats lost the presidential election by a near record-setting 525 to 13 electoral votes and were left with only control of the House. 8 years later in 1992 they won the presidency and controlled both the House and Senate.

History - it's not a straight line that you can extrapolate forever.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2012 11:01 PM (pAlYe)

179
Sven, I'm 56 years old. My ancestors walked here 200 years ago to carve out a living in Van Wert County, when it was Indian country.

This is my home. Nobody is going to root me out. We are going to take this thing back.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (Md8Uo)

180 179 Who the fuck is Norman Polanski?



I'm assuming they mean "Roman Polanski."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (GEICT)

181 Uh, that's Kevin Jennings. Ken is the Jeopardy! winner.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (nkiQM)

182 >Who the fuck is Norman Polanski?


Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2012 11:00 PM (kpCLl)

Roman's little brother

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (8sCoq)

183 But who to head up the CIA?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2012 10:45 PM


Ahem...

Posted by: Zombie Alger Hiss at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (sZTYJ)

184 "Magazine for lesbians"

No, more like a magazine for silly, vapid women who make it into their 30's and 40's whining about girl power and free birth control.

There's a reason it comes for free to me every month in the mail without me ever having requesting it.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (avGs3)

185 153 Mero,

Mero let me tell you what I am calmly realizing....

Obarka doesn;t hate shale and oil he hates people getting the profit not his government ran corporation he sets up.

They are going to steal our states wealth to pay for 1/2 assed welfare.

No 'what can be done?'

whatever God allows.

in 1812 the British were about to strangle Lady liberty in her crib.....God sent a hurricane and tornados to DC and said to England "no."

in 2012 The President was about to strangle the Golden Goose in Liberty's insane asylum and God sent Sandy.....

I'm not sure I'm joking.

I'm about to go to bed and get more calm and less muratic acid brain going.

The skies are clearing and a little poverty with the promise of earned gain is calling.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (LRFds)

186 Who the fuck is Norman Polanski?

Our parents had this thing where they liked naming their sons after different ethnic groups in Europe.

Posted by: Bulgar Polanski at November 12, 2012 11:03 PM (pwyhn)

187 History - it's not a straight line that you can extrapolate forever.

But somethings come to an end, and history marches on.

Posted by: The USSR at November 12, 2012 11:03 PM (5xivT)

188 Secretary of State ?


CYNTHIA MCKINNEY !!!

http://tinyurl.com/bw9noes




rested and ready, you racists !


Posted by: T. Hunter at November 12, 2012 11:03 PM (EZl54)

189 Since apparently fan-fiction is the new way to make it big I'm thinking of some Love in the Time of Obamerda.

Two star-crossed Congressional staffers meet and fight for love whilst surround by the puddles of sick that is our new future.

Them's my plans and those are the best I can come up with.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 12, 2012 11:03 PM (SX6wc)

190 Is that from one of the actual Twilight movies? Never actually watched one, though I've seen clips and asked myself what that kind of cheese-ass effects were doing in a major motion picture.

Kind of like the awful flame CGI in that Running Teen movie.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 12, 2012 11:03 PM (GH//x)

191 if Boner compromises and raises the taxes on incomes over 1 million I can accept that- theyre mostly deems fuckem.
However it will not appease Obama who wants to redistribute more.
otherwise make everyone pay more and make parasites dig holes

Posted by: Avi at November 12, 2012 11:04 PM (40anC)

192 @183

Republicans agenda was not to set out to "Fundamentally Change America"

It's a Apples and Oranges comparison.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:04 PM (uvNSk)

193 Jane D'oh, I'll have you know that DWS won re-election easily, stealing winning 63% of the vote in her district.

Alan Grayson is now back in Congress after a 63% win himself.

You probably want to rip the clothes off of him now.

Two can play the evil game.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:04 PM (ccXZP)

194 Sucks to be me...I'm a guy

Posted by: Gypsy Polanski at November 12, 2012 11:04 PM (5xivT)

195 Sheila Jackson Lee for NASA Chief

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (pwyhn)

196 Political Hat, that was totally awesome.

Posted by: Mindy at November 12, 2012 10:35 PM (6jLT3)


Yup.

Long time hardcore YAFfer here.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (sZTYJ)

197 Uh, that's Kevin Jennings. Ken is the Jeopardy! winner.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 11:02 PM (nkiQM)

Sorry. I meant the NAMBLA guy, not the game show winner.

Posted by: Obama and Friends at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (H1DmM)

198 Good Evening

I know many are believing we are boned. However, I believe there are many untapped financial opportunities in the upcoming year. For example:

1. I plan to open a little grocery store with no groceries. What....well, real simple. EBT Fraud is easy and, more importantly, with enough of a kick back to the local Democratic party boss, I should be left alone. Its win-win, the patron will get 50% of what they "bought" back in cash, the pay-offs are prob. 10%, I gotta probably spend 20 - 25% in over head and the rest.....profit. Plus, since all I gotta do is sit by the cash register all day, I got plenty of time to comment here.

2. Green Energy consultant. I know nothing about green energy. I know just enough to write a phony baloney grant request and smart enough to realize that kicking 50% back as a campaign contribution keeps my grants going.

3. Union Organizer for Pan Handlers. Hey, someone gotta organize what corner each pan handler gets.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (OWjjx)

199 184 CJ Burch,

I know I'm 40. My family predates Ohio being the Northwest territory in raising ehll in the area.

I hope you're right.

I'll send care packages and prayers...if it helps let me remind you that Cincy sent Texas a twin pair of cannons as 'we love you" to texas when she was a newborn.

Imagine any city doing that today....

CJ it ain't just us we need AMERICA back and whatever the hell this is this is not the nation that put folk on the moon built the panama canal and such.

I will go where we do mighty things or I will die crying.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (LRFds)

200 night sven.

take care of yourself , folks need you.

Live one breath at a time, man . There's no guarantee of the next one.

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (EZl54)

201 Sven,

It isn't treason. The electorate voted in a nanny state, adducing the 10th amendment or 'states rights' is ipso facto racist to the political, media and academic classes, and they voted to live beyond our means now in the hopes we will never have to live beneath our means later on (i.e. our children). It is an opinion that Lincoln was wrong about states rights, even if he was right about everything else.

Our side's goose is cooked under the current configuration. If anyone here can demonstrate how the party can 'realistically' be saved I'm open to suggestions (but not self-delusion, like we got throughout this campaign). And no, immigration reform is suicide, so forget that.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (Kd6lF)

202 OK, not (entirely) snarky: how does one apply for an obamaphone? The Genetical Twinlets just turned 13 and they hate me to hell for not getting them loaded smartphones for their birthday.

I'm 72.9% serious here; this is a gov't program that I could benefit from. Pls advise, thx

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (JMmQ9)

203 Hank Johnson for Secretary of Education

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (pwyhn)

204 Posted by: Bulgar Polanski at November 12, 2012 11:03 PM (pwyhn)

No kidding.

Posted by: Samantha Geimer at November 12, 2012 11:06 PM (QTHTd)

205 I "fundamentally changed" Europe.

Posted by: The Black Plague at November 12, 2012 11:06 PM (5xivT)

206 Nah, Cindy Sheehan for Defense. She's so much smarter than John Kerry. If that turncoat gets the job, our entire armed forces should go AWOL. What a dam insult.

Jenjis Khan and all that.

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 11:06 PM (0PiQ4)

207 But who to head up the CIA?

How about the splendidly-named Mayor Nutter? He must have some reward coming his way for Philadelphia.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 11:06 PM (FcR7P)

208 Patrick Kennedy for Secretary of Heath and Human Services

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:06 PM (pwyhn)

209 Tim Geithner for Secretary of the Treasury.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:07 PM (pwyhn)

210 Who was the guy who wondered if Guam would tip over? Secretary of the Navy, right there.

Posted by: Secundus, Cthulu/ T-1000 2016 at November 12, 2012 11:07 PM (H1DmM)

211 Alan Grayson is white and going to hell also. This is fun.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:07 PM (MQ8WD)

212 Julian Assange = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (DoZD+)

213
Newt jumping to the head of the collaborators line:

Newt Gingrich is joining the cadre of Republicans calling for the Republican Party to more actively reach out to a more diverse electorate, arguing on Monday that the party needs to become more "inclusive."

"I think we need to be inclusive, and I emphasize the difference between inclusive and outreach," Gingrich said Monday morning in an appearance on ABC's "The View." "Outreach is when five white guys have a meeting and call you. Inclusive is when you're in the meeting. And I think we have to understand to be inclusive."

Also:

Former House Speaker and onetime presidential candidate Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) on Monday said that if President Obama was “sincere” about forging a plan to avoid the looming “fiscal cliff” and cut the deficit, Republicans would have no option but to work with him.

“The president faces the biggest choice since January 2009: Does he sit down in a room and honestly, openly negotiate with Speaker [John] Boehner [R-Ohio] and [Senate Minority Leader] Mitch McConnell [R-Ky.], or does he come in, give a set of demands and go hold a press conference?” said Gingrich on NBC’s “Today.”

“If the president’s willing to do it, the Republicans have no choice,” he added. “You can’t turn down a president who’s just won reelection if he’s sincere.”




Vidkun Gingrich...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (kdS6q)

214 Zombie Ted Kennedy, USOC Swim Coach.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (OWjjx)

215 But Western Michigan is full of tough, hard conservative folks who aren't going to run away. It's a beautiful place in summer, with hundreds of small lakes, the western shore of Lake Michigan.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 10:51 PM (Md8Uo)

--Techinically, the western shore of Lake Michigan is mostly Wisconsin.

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (jKE+Z)

216 I "fundamentally changed" Dinosaur society and politics.

Posted by: Chicxulub Meteor at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (5xivT)

217 Hank Johnson for geography Czar. In charge on Guam.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (UOM48)

218 If only you poor benighted commenters would adopt my mellifluous tone, you might win elections more often.

< sniff >

Posted by: Shamwow CamPee at November 12, 2012 11:09 PM (SX6wc)

219 No. FDA for Kennedy.

And even though she's just been elected, Liz Warren for Indian Secretary.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 12, 2012 11:09 PM (nkiQM)

220 Alan Grayson and DWS back in Congress are good advertising for the Democrat brand.

The news stories those two fools generate ... I expect both of them to lose in 2014, and take a few D's with them.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 12, 2012 11:09 PM (RrmXU)

221 I'm off to bed. Chemistry has kicked in. Night all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2012 11:09 PM (UOM48)

222 Vidkun Gingrich...
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 11:08 PM (kdS6q)

Ah - that's the Gingrich *I* know. Always wanting to be in on whatever is happening or popular.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (pAlYe)

223 Bill Clinton for Undersecretary for Ladypart Issues

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (pwyhn)

224 Does anyone remember how the D's felt after Kerry lost in 2004?


And did they change any positions?
no


Posted by: MoRON #3 at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (2CiZb)

225 You guys are too fast for me! Hank Johnson and Sheila J.L. would be the perfect team! OMG, such a pool of talent we have in congress. The possibilities are endless!

Posted by: kalneva at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (cQmXn)

226 Hey, Chicxulub Meteor, baby. How you doin'?

Posted by: SMOD at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (nkiQM)

227 Alan Grayson for White House spokesman.

Posted by: Secundus, Cthulu/ T-1000 2016 at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (H1DmM)

228 Actually, I suspect 2014 might be a good year for the GOP. Democrats probably will not turn out like 2012 because its only Congress and, hell, they got their free phones and stuff.

Obama, on the other hand. will do many, many things to piss conservatives off who will, once again, like 2010, show up if for no other reason than to tell Obama to go to hell.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:11 PM (OWjjx)

229 Head of CIA? Big Bird.

Sec. Of State? Hank Johnson .

Posted by: mpfs at November 12, 2012 11:11 PM (Mkhiu)

230 SMOD 2016 -- "a fresh start"

Posted by: SMOD at November 12, 2012 11:11 PM (5xivT)

231 Barney Frank - Special Envoy In Charge of Muslim Outreach

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (pwyhn)

232 Maxine Waters deserves some type of job here. After all she was voted at one of The Hill's "Most Beautiful People"....that should count for something.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (MQ8WD)

233 < sniff >

Posted by: Shamwow CamPee at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (SX6wc)

234 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (SKX2R)

You left out precious bodily fluids.

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (sRus3)

235 Why am I not surprised by Noot?

Seriously...I'm ready to conclude Noot, Rove, and every Republican presidential campaign manager as never even having been on our side to begin with.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (uvNSk)

236
logprof

I meant the western shore of Michigan is on Lake Michigan.

Picky, picky, picky.......

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (Md8Uo)

237 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:05 PM (SKX2R)

Well they always do eventually out themselves. And it's a shock when they find out that we're not their secret racist friends after all.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (pAlYe)

238

Aaahh, good ole' racial intelligence theory.

Trust me on this, kids, in a few years, no one's going to care about your race.

Your flavor, sure. Your race, not so much.

Posted by: John Titor at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (xKC/c)

239 235 Malamutt,

Maybe...I think this was it and I am NOT an oh noes guy.
I was a tea party reporter from the gatherings both times Mal.

Free Shit Army gets that election day is their work time and then they get their paycheck spread out over 2 years.

It's gonna get worse not better.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (LRFds)

240 220

Mallamutt

Hahahahaaaaaaaaa!

Also zombie Ted Kennedy should be named consultant to MADD and liaison to AA. Keep his dead rotting corpse busy. Do you think they serve waitress sammiches in hell?

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (0PiQ4)

241 FDA?

Snoop Dog

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (8sCoq)

242 Menedez - Sec of Labor

Posted by: Jimmy at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (Gk5QE)

243 I'm ready to conclude Noot, Rove, and every Republican presidential
campaign manager as never even having been on our side to begin with


Already there. That is why I did not vote.

More people need to call bullshit on the present system.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 12, 2012 11:13 PM (QTHTd)

244 Gingrich said Monday morning in an appearance on ABC's "The View."

That there tells you everything you need to know.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 11:14 PM (JMmQ9)

245
SMOD 2016 -- "Deficits? Piffle!"
SMOD 2016 -- "Debt? Pshaw!"
SMOD 2016 -- "Corruption? Fugedaboutit!"

Posted by: SMOD at November 12, 2012 11:14 PM (5xivT)

246 246 John Titor,

they'll care...it's been their religion for 40 years now....

they'll care a lot about eating one particular meat from the chicken quicker.

I;ve seen this movie in Africa.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 11:14 PM (LRFds)

247 Chris Matthews: Head of the EEOC Enforcement Division

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:14 PM (pwyhn)

248 Barney Frank - Special Envoy In Charge of Muslim Outreach
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (pwyhn)

Careful, he might be popular. I don't care what hardline Islamic law says-- a LOT of those dudes drive stick over there.

Posted by: Secundus, Cthulu/ T-1000 2016 at November 12, 2012 11:14 PM (H1DmM)

249 Insty had this:

'next time, more Lee Atwater, less Karl Rove'

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:14 PM (8sCoq)

250 Well I'm back in the USSR.

fify

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 12, 2012 11:15 PM (BVkEs)

251 I can't help but always think of how, when W mispronounced "nuclear", that was a sure sign of his retardedness. Then, when the JEF says "corpse-man" several times during a prepared speech, *crickets*. Not to mention potatoe being the most egregious thing to ever have happened.

Posted by: kalneva at November 12, 2012 11:15 PM (cQmXn)

252 208 >> I'm 72.9% serious here; this is a gov't program that I could benefit from. Pls advise, thx

Alton, all you need to know is in the ObamaPhone lady's screed as originally recorded and shown on youtube. If you on disability, if you on welfare, if you on Medicaid, if you on food stamps, you qualify.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:15 PM (ccXZP)

253 anyway I need sleep and I want this ruptured blood vessel to heal....

shrug.....they like to brag they are the rich and the smart...

okay show me Krugman you genius tax your way to wealth.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 11:16 PM (LRFds)

254 I'm getting more optimistic by the day. I don't know who said it but the Dems really did win themselves a ticket on the Titanic. They're in a lose/lose situation.

They've already decimated the economy with government intervention. It isn't going to recover. It's going to get worse and worse. And if they somehow manage to win in 2014 what are they going to do? Rejuvenate the economy? They are economic poison.

All they have done is hasten then end of their beloved State. They will drive down economic activity and continue to spend like drunken sailors until the checks finally bounce. Much of the world has already stopped buying our bonds. It's not that far off.

And we need the State to collapse. Freedom is not compatible with a monster progressive state. It doesn't mean the country will collapse. It does mean we need to work on what comes after, but we do need something to do. Don't we?

Posted by: runninrebel at November 12, 2012 11:16 PM (J4gw3)

255 240 Maxine Waters deserves some type of job here. After all she was voted at one of The Hill's "Most Beautiful People" ....that should count for something.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (MQ8WD)




Please tell me you're joking.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 11:16 PM (GEICT)

256 Maxine Waters deserves some type of job here. After all she was voted at one of The Hill's "Most Beautiful People" ....that should count for something.



Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (MQ8WD)







Please tell me you're joking.



She barely edged out #2, Henry Waxman.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:17 PM (pwyhn)

257 Also, zombie Ted Kennedy to head EEOC, writing sexual harrassment policy along with Anita Hill and Billy Jeff while zombie brother JFK supervise. Chris Dodd gets sloppy seconds.

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 11:18 PM (0PiQ4)

258 Our problem as conservatives is really, really, really simple.

We believe in ideas. We think ideas matter. Democrats don't.

Now, do we abandon our ideas....no. However, if we do not start playing hardball politics, we are screwed.

Punish your enemies/reward your friends. It isn't just for Chicago anymore.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:18 PM (OWjjx)

259 'Night, y'all. Try to sleep and have sweet dreams of SMOD.

Posted by: kalneva at November 12, 2012 11:18 PM (cQmXn)

260 Bill Ayers will replace Janet Manitano as head of Homeland Security.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:19 PM (MQ8WD)

261 Tim Geithner = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 11:19 PM (DoZD+)

262
And I never alleged anyone here is racist. I'm saying race is an actual if taboo concept.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:18 PM (SKX2

--Welcome to the Horde, John Derbyshire!

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 11:20 PM (jKE+Z)

263 No. Can it be that John Cusak is Rush's psycho stalking jealous lover?

Posted by: Cowboy at November 12, 2012 11:20 PM (WcgMM)

264 With John Horseface Kerrey as Sec. of D, maybe he can organize an annual Throw Your Decorations Over The WH Fence activity for our troops.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:20 PM (ccXZP)

265 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:18 PM (SKX2R)



You're still here? I thought you were leaving?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 11:20 PM (GEICT)

266 yes the Republicans should be more 'inclusive' : Include more White people
( the allegedly vanishing breed ). Millions upon millions--zillions--of Whiteys were registered R or indep but did not vote


What's up with That?

Posted by: Lt. Col. Corn at November 12, 2012 11:20 PM (Dll6b)

267 Henry Waxman = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 11:20 PM (DoZD+)

268
But, but, but .....Newt was a REAL conservative! He led the 1994 "revolution".

See here, Newt was always in love with his own voice, and still is. What Newt loves most is Newt and the sound of his own voice.

Interesting guy with lots of ideas, but about 50% of them are total bullshit. He needs a full time press secretary that can control the stupid things that he says that negate the interesting things that he says.

Dick Gephart actually said something that I thought was actually pretty fair and generous about Newt when Newt was Speaker of the House. When asked what happened to Newt as Speaker (especially his fall) , I was expecting something kinda nasty and invective. Instead, Dick said,"Newt thought he was Prime Minister, when he was only Speaker of the House."

He is in the stupid "let's rethink everything!" mode.He really thinks he is Churchill and going to be called back to "save us".

Expect lots more of this kind of bullshit for at least 3 or 4 more months, from all kinds of people that are "trying to help us."

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 11:21 PM (Md8Uo)

269
One of my life goals is living long enough to piss on John Kerry's grave.

Him being SecDef would provide sufficient motivation to outlast him.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2012 11:21 PM (SAMxH)

270 6 Texas has surpassed the number of signatures needed to petition the WH for permission to leave the Union. Thoughts?

God Bless Texas !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 12, 2012 11:22 PM (hqnT4)

271 >Now, do we abandon our ideas....no. However, if we do not start playing hardball politics, we are screwed.


This is what I'm thinking. We stick to our principles, but from now on, we contest every election with extreme prejudice- I'm talking smashmouth politics....

(the other side is playing hardball and we're playing patty-cake)

...and Enemy # 1 is the media

I'm convinced that if we can beat the media, we can beat any candidate the other side puts up

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:23 PM (8sCoq)

272 @ 276


BC,Sammy is waiting for the taxi to run him back over to Stormfront.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2012 11:23 PM (SAMxH)

273 264 240 Maxine Waters deserves some type of job here. After all she was voted at one of The Hill's "Most Beautiful People" ....that should count for something. Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:12 PM (MQ8WD) Please tell me you're joking.


Could not even joke about something that disturbing. She was named one of th beauties in 2010. I have serious doubts about The Hill's sanity.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:23 PM (MQ8WD)

274 Roman Polanski is the kinda guy we need in the Improved Republican Party


libertarian, hands-on, free-thinking outside the box...

Posted by: Sangee Wisegam at November 12, 2012 11:23 PM (Dll6b)

275 @252

Yeah we know! But thats' not a problem. The problem is philosophy that does not fall in line with the philosophy of the founding documents ensuring Free Will and the Pursuit of Happiness. "Negative Rights" is the Philosophy of the Founding documents, and Obama and his Ilk want a living document that supports the idea of "Positive Rights."

If the Democrats supported even half of what Conservatives want there would be no big with Democrat majorities. This is the way it used to be. That's what separates Conservatives from the Mouth Breathers..is that we would vote Democrat if they were even reasonable...but Democrats would never vote Republican because they think it's not cool...Low Info Voters Period!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:24 PM (uvNSk)

276 @ 183 Maet

Love your work, you are awesome!

But on this point I must protest. Yes, parties have lost big and come back before, but never has the demographic writing been on the wall this clearly. And the case of California after amnesty is damning. I sincerely doubt that we get out of the next term without some kind of immigration reform that structurally damns us. Alternately, statehood for Puerto Rico might damn us as well. It is true that no immigrant is forever beholden to one party, but the probability that the majority of them will go with the party whose imprimatur is on the immigration law is high. further, many immigrants espouse liberation theology, which is inimical to most republican ideas (but not secular nanny-state ones).

So what is our big move, Maet, if it isn't at least giving passing thought to the really big moves like going 3rd party and amnesty?

And if we don't go with a big move like that (which let's face it, we won't), what is our recourse when the next thing doesn't work (which let's face it, it likely won't)?

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:25 PM (Kd6lF)

277 BHUT, ideas DO matter to the Left. For 100 years they've never stopped debating and refining their ideas. However, the entire purpose of all the ideas they've refined haslittle to do with building or even maintaining a healthy system. To the contrary! The great preoccupation of the Left, the one subject they've spilt more ink on than anything else is this: "How do we take this sucker down?" Remember, these guys started with Marxism, class warfare, and material dialectics. Here's their plan, literally: 1) Replace the system; 2) ???; 3) Profit!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 12, 2012 11:25 PM (WcgMM)

278 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 12, 2012 11:10 PM (pwyhn)


Hell NO!! Bubba anti-Drug Czar

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 11:26 PM (ck76k)

279 Elliot Spitzer for AG?

Posted by: derit at November 12, 2012 11:26 PM (I88Jc)

280
derit @ 290

Winner!!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 11:26 PM (Md8Uo)

281 "I don't even get how you can say such a thing. It really escapes me."

You don't understand because you never took the time to actually understand your political opponent. We study our opponent vigorously...you guys don't!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:27 PM (uvNSk)

282 284 Could not even joke about something that disturbing. She was named one of th beauties in 2010. I have serious doubts about The Hill's sanity.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks both Boehner and Joe Straus need to go at November 12, 2012 11:23 PM (MQ8WD)



.......Maxine Waters? Seriously?


http://tinyurl.com/afsczbf

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 11:27 PM (GEICT)

283 Pyrrho, the Puerto Rican thing has been up for vote several times. It gets smacked down every time. They get government bennies and a blue passport without paying taxes or voting; what's not to like?

Posted by: Secundus, Cthulu/ T-1000 2016 at November 12, 2012 11:28 PM (H1DmM)

284 Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:15 PM

thx, GnuBreed. None of the above apply to me.

Maybe I'll pitch the idea to The.Oh.So.Progressive.(Soon.To.Be.Ex.)Missus™. It's right up her alley...the gov't owes us shit; that's why we pay taxes, ya'know?

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 11:28 PM (JMmQ9)

285 First season of Dragnet on Hulu for free. Yes. Oh yes.

Posted by: D. R. Ainbough at November 12, 2012 11:28 PM (BgIBZ)

286 But on this point I must protest. Yes, parties have lost big and come back before, but never has the demographic writing been on the wall this clearly. And the case of California after amnesty is damning. I sincerely doubt that we get out of the next term without some kind of immigration reform that structurally damns us. Alternately, statehood for Puerto Rico might damn us as well. It is true that no immigrant is forever beholden to one party, but the probability that the majority of them will go with the party whose imprimatur is on the immigration law is high. further, many immigrants espouse liberation theology, which is inimical to most republican ideas (but not secular nanny-state ones).

So what is our big move, Maet, if it isn't at least giving passing thought to the really big moves like going 3rd party and amnesty?

And if we don't go with a big move like that (which let's face it, we won't), what is our recourse when the next thing doesn't work (which let's face it, it likely won't)?

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:25 PM (Kd6lF)


We could always just import a few million Afrikaaners before the ANC decides to go all Mugabe on them?

Posted by: Not Draka at November 12, 2012 11:28 PM (sZTYJ)

287 Katya wins the Internet.

Posted by: Mo the Girl at November 12, 2012 11:29 PM (MQ8WD)

288 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:18 PM (SKX2R)

Europeans bred with Neanderthals. Africans did not.

How do those two facts fit into your model?

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:30 PM (sRus3)

289 We could always just import a few million Afrikaaners before the ANC decides to go all Mugabe on them?

No, that's racist. You don't have a secret racist friend in this comment thread. All races are the same and if the demographics of, say, Detroit change from mostly white to mostly black, Detroit will maintain its standard of living.

We should import a few million Somalis instead. To prove our good will.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 12, 2012 11:32 PM (QTHTd)

290 @294 Secundus
- true, but now that they've voted that they want statehood, what kind of racist, xenophobic congress (that isn't seeking Latino votes) would dare deny them?

@297
Not Draka
- Am I to understand that even here at AoSHQ I will be accused of racism for making a point that has nothing to do with race?

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:33 PM (Kd6lF)

291 Europeans bred with Neanderthals. Africans did not. How do those two facts fit into your model?
Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:30 PM (sRus3)
---
Somehow it trickles down to this irrefutable maxim: Don't breed with anybody from New Jersey.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 12, 2012 11:33 PM (WcgMM)

292
Well really, who can stop Obama from nominating just about ANYBODY he wants to a cabinet post?

Who will stop him? Filibuster rules will be removed in the next Senate by Hairy Reid.. He will be praised as a Great Statesman. Huzzah for Hairy. Forward into the future. Yet, they are all quite a bit over their heads.

Nemesis follows Hubris. Unfortunately, we will all be along for the ride. What can't be sustained won't. The yearsbefore Nemesis grow short.


Nemisis, Black Swan, SMOD. Call it whatyou like. The next few years are going to be a wild ride. Not fun or pretty, but just wild. We have been lucky enough to live in 'interesting times'.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 11:34 PM (Md8Uo)

293 We should import a few million Somalis instead. To prove our good will.
Posted by: boulder hobo at November 12, 2012 11:32 PM (QTHTd)


we have it is not working out so good, you know tribalism, moslem, illeterate, etcc.

Posted by: jake in ID at November 12, 2012 11:34 PM (2CiZb)

294 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:33 PM (SKX2R)

♫ Stormfrontin'! ♫

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:35 PM (sRus3)

295 @302

You are a Racist...Deal with it!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:35 PM (uvNSk)

296 Posted by: jake in ID at November 12, 2012 11:34 PM (2CiZb)

May I introduce you to the Goddess Irony?

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:36 PM (sRus3)

297 Neanderthal DNA make me strong like ox. Human DNA make their skin soft, good for boots and tunics.

Posted by: Mætenloch of the Black Cave peoples at November 12, 2012 11:36 PM (pAlYe)

298

the Puerto Rican thing has been up for vote several times. It gets smacked down every time. They get government bennies and a blue passport without paying taxes or voting

Posted by: Secundus





So? They get statehood and Presidential waivers on their tax status and the rest of the inconvenient laws because -- hmmm -- racism, colonialism, "temporary act to bring our economies into alignment", and so on.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 11:37 PM (kdS6q)

299 OMG! Now we are all racists. Geez Louise, I thought all that Democrat mind pap was just propaganda, but I GUESS IT'S TWUE!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 12, 2012 11:38 PM (Md8Uo)

300 Mr. Irrelevant 2009 for the tie!


CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 11:38 PM (jKE+Z)

301 OT

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:38 PM (8sCoq)

302 Neanderthal DNA make me strong like ox. Human DNA makes their skin soft, perfect for boots and tunics.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 12, 2012 11:36 PM (pAlYe)

Chicks dig brow ridges.

Oh yeah.

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:38 PM (sRus3)

303 May I introduce you to the Goddess Irony?
Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:36 PM (sRus3)


ah ha!!!

Posted by: jake in ID at November 12, 2012 11:38 PM (2CiZb)

304 Well, what can "actually" be done is get Boehner out, have Speaker Ryan. That'd be step one.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 12, 2012 11:39 PM (JVGuP)

305
Just a question for academic discussion.
At what point would secession become justified? How far from the original intent of the Constitution would the country have to drift before such a thing could be an acceptable consideration?
I guess what I'm getting at here is there has to be a breaking point when it comes to centralized government and disregard for the Tenth Amendment. I'm not necessarily suggesting it's been reached. What I'm asking is....is there a point where itCAN be reached?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 12, 2012 11:39 PM (8cOY0)

306 Look samwise, this has nothing to do with race and cannot be reliably tied to IQ either. Don't play the games we see from time to time of academic 'studies' trying to prove that conservatives are stupider, more socially maladjusted than their eudaimonic liberal counterparts. This is purely to do with cultural and political predilections. if 12 million Germans, Australians, Indians or Chadians moved to the US at once, it would probably shift our political balance likewise...

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:40 PM (Kd6lF)

307 Now I want a hot dog, dammit. It's Maet's fault.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:40 PM (ccXZP)

308 Mitt Romney: ran for president for six years, conceded in six minutes.

The only Republican with any honor is Allen West.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 12, 2012 11:41 PM (I2LwF)

309 Chicks dig brow ridges.

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:38 PM (sRus3)

`````

Ha. Dr. Laura said Spitzer's wife should have known he'd cheat if she didn't take care of his, erm, special needs, because he had a pronounced brow.

Posted by: D. R. Ainbough at November 12, 2012 11:41 PM (BgIBZ)

310 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:39 PM (SKX2R)

You are so full of shit, Adolph.

You say Neanderthal DNA dropped the IQ of some modern humans; Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal DNA and Africans do not.

Yet Europeans and Asians are reputed to be the smart ones and Africans the dumb ones.

You are so fucking stupid.

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:43 PM (sRus3)

311 @307 Walter

Are you being serious?

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:43 PM (Kd6lF)

312 Modern high IQ societies present but one approach. If you want to use natural selection as a tool to evaluate that approach, beware. An argument could be made that high IQ societies are inherently unstable. Classical Greece thrived for only about 50 years. Rome's Golden Age came and went, literallly, in the space of a generation. (Arguably, perhaps a little more. But that's it. A little more). And today, the highest IQ societies are the ones trapped in demographic decimation.A strong argument can be made that we in the west stand at the brink of another, looming Dark Age, scheduled to arrive in the next 50-100 years. Meanwhile those damn Trobianders will still keep on keepin' on. They had their own less dramatic but equally viable survival strategy. And natural selection does not give a whit about all the drama, right?

Posted by: Cowboy at November 12, 2012 11:44 PM (WcgMM)

313 >>>I simply don't believe it was an accident that the march to modern institutions happened in regions of the Earth where people provably have larger brains and higher intelligence.

Meh. You're so stupid it's amazing. The march of technology occurred thanks to society, itself made possible from concepts of law and virtue. For instance some of the most brillant engineers of the modern day in Germany were simply warring barbaric tribes until they got introduced to the philosophies of a Jewish man regarding virtue.

Virtue not intelligence is the enemy of tyranny. For instance I am way way smarter than you but have no feelings of entitlement toward leadership or control because such things would be against my virtue.

Now go sell racism some place else.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at November 12, 2012 11:45 PM (GE1+K)

314 Crap, I thought the Chiefs would pull this one out. Oy gevalt.

Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2012 11:45 PM (jKE+Z)

315 "In April, Belize police raided his compound and found McAfee in the company of a 17-year-old girl, $20,000 in cash, a chemical lab and a cache of weapons, the website said. He was arrested on drug and weapons violations, but the charges were dropped."

Sounds like a moron to me...

Posted by: Bread And Circuses at November 12, 2012 11:46 PM (Hu/Da)

316 @301

Sam,

Your off topic and you missed the point.

If one of the political party's is out to "Fundamentally Change America," then the end result is something that is not America.

You cannot be a Socialist and an American..it's either or, and by default you can call it "The United States of America" all you want, but it won't be, it will be something of a lesser standard.

It's like living in a Mansion right in the middle of the ghetto...at the end of the day...you live in the ghetto.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:47 PM (uvNSk)

317 yeah that was quick and bloodless

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:47 PM (8sCoq)

318 Kelley is a mole... except she does not even have the fake bone fieds of a real mole.

Posted by: Kermit The Frog at November 12, 2012 11:47 PM (JtyGg)

319 Lol a French dude on Dancing With The Stars just thanked the U.S. Army for freeing his people during WW2.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 12, 2012 11:47 PM (NzBQO)

320 @325

No...its a running joke....C'mon Dude-Get.In.The.Game!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:48 PM (uvNSk)

321 SOS = Dr. Joycelyn Elders

Posted by: sammyboy at November 12, 2012 11:49 PM (o0Cz/)

322 So Samunwise isn't cool now.

Go figure.

(I fucking told you.)

Posted by: Shamwow CamPee at November 12, 2012 11:49 PM (SX6wc)

323 All trolls, all the time. I think we need some Red Meat and Dude posts.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 12, 2012 11:49 PM (bxiXv)

324 Samwise,

Nowhere in your rambling incoherent response did you come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:49 PM (Kd6lF)

325 The march of technology occurred thanks to society, itself made possible from concepts of law and virtue

And free enterprise. Something tells me when little Billy Gates was tinkering with the computer he was hoping to make a few bucks.


The problem, of course, is that today, once the free enterprise system has rewarded you, those who have benefited more often than not turn their back on free enterprise.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:49 PM (OWjjx)

326
Last time I recall the brain size/intelligence topic being raised was with a commenter named Random. Same argument put forth oh so reasonably

Who was the blogger that stirred somuch crap and got canned from a rather important blog for linking to Taki Mag?

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2012 11:50 PM (SAMxH)

327 Allow me to share something that will demonstrate what a well-oiled machine the Romney campaign was.

A couple I know received their Romney yard signs TODAY. The package indicated they had shipped on Wednesday.

The Democrat turn-out machine is awesome. The GOP is still run by the Keystone Kops.

(This is partly due to the culture of parties, in which one relies on personal responsibility and initiative and the other on knowing it has to hold the hand of its infantile constituents.)

Posted by: Martin at November 12, 2012 11:51 PM (MSrqi)

328 >Sounds like a moron to me...

Posted by: Bread And Circuses at November 12, 2012 11:46 PM (Hu/Da)


livin' the dream

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 12, 2012 11:51 PM (8sCoq)

329 OK, I'm out

Samwise is full of shit. How this troll got ingratiated around here is a mystery to me.

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 12, 2012 11:51 PM (JMmQ9)

330 Adam, the strangest part of that statement is that a man is watching dancing with the stars.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 12, 2012 11:51 PM (I2LwF)

331 "The sad tale of John McAfee"

****

Yes, sad, if by "sad" you mean "pathetic".


What a pathetic POS.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2012 11:52 PM (piMMO)

332 A while back, Broadwell was on the Daily Show and told the smarmy Jon Stewart that Petraeus's nickname was "Peaches."

Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 11:52 PM (opS9C)

333 >>>And free enterprise. Something tells me when little Billy Gates was tinkering with the computer he was hoping to make a few bucks.

I would say personal gain. Capitalism as such evolved from more primative decisions of just trying to make our lives easier. The guy who invented a plow wasn't "wait till I get a patent on this!!!" He just wanted an easier way to plant his field.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 12, 2012 11:53 PM (GE1+K)

334 Will one of you brilliant professors write me a gov'mt grant I dont' have to pay back?

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2012 11:53 PM (OGJOF)

335 Posted by: Martin at November 12, 2012 11:51 PM (MSrqi)

No, the GOP really does suck at some very basic core political practices.

It has got to get better.

Of course, here is the one difference between the parties.

Larger parts of the GOP are private sector workers. We have jobs outside of politics. We do it for a mutlitude of reasons.

Democrats rely more frequently on politics for their job. Whether it be directly (a position in government) or indirectly (getting the government cash for my foundation, union, whatever).

Now, who is more motivated (and who has more time) for the nuts and bolts of politics.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:54 PM (OWjjx)

336 What's the "microcephalin gene variant"? The word makes me think "small head" or "small brain" but the Neanderthal had bigger brains than we do (average size). So did the Cro Magnon, if memory serves.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (l0s2K)

337
Song Of The Lonely Mountain from The Hobbit: An Unexpected JourneyPosted by: Robert at November 12, 2012 10:24 PM (LUnTP)The track is okay. Still have low expections for this movie.

Posted by: Huusker at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (PaKLC)

338 One thing is for sure, there can be no peaceful secession by any state. If Texas ever got serious they would have to back it up with force. Lincoln really did screw the pooch for state rights.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (nD2pm)

339 "A while back, Broadwell was on the Daily Show and told the smarmy Jon Stewart that Petraeus's nickname was "Peaches."

And Petraeus's nickname for Broadwell was "Rosebud".

Posted by: Bread And Circuses at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (Hu/Da)

340 347
"The sad tale of John McAfee"

****

Yes, sad, if by "sad" you mean "pathetic".


What a pathetic POS.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 12, 2012 11:52 PM (piMMO)

---
Is McAfee guilty? Or just wanted for questioning?

Posted by: Neanderthal James Carville at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (BVkEs)

341 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:48 PM (SKX2R)


Look up what the word reputed means. Yeah, you said impacted. You implied reduced, otherwise your thesis is voided.

You remind me of a racist troll we had here several months ago. Reality check was his nic.

You are an evil and demented idiot.

Posted by: eman at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (sRus3)

342 Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 12, 2012 11:53 PM (GE1+K)

Fair enough.....your phrasing is much more accurate than mine.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 11:55 PM (OWjjx)

343 Reaching out by selling our souls will work about as well as Newt Gingrich's presidential aspirations. You are not going to change the weltanschauungs of these folks. You might try, but only circumstance can do it. And we can't count on circumstance... So what is your real solution aside from bloviating about race?

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 12, 2012 11:56 PM (Kd6lF)

344 ::::93 >>> Sweet, two trolls (or annoying enough to qualify) in the top commenters.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 10:22 PM

I'll cease commenting here relatively soon.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 10:39 PM (SKX2R)::::

Beat the holiday rush. Do it now, fucker.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 12, 2012 11:56 PM (JDIKC)

345 @350

"He just wanted an easier way to plant his field."

Yes...but wanting it easier so that he could produce more output...to make more money.

The less free we are, the less Technology we will have.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 12, 2012 11:56 PM (uvNSk)

346
Katya wins the Internet.




I'm hoping to get my name on the top 10 commenters list.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 12, 2012 11:56 PM (DoZD+)

347 It's amazing to see guys like McAfee who had everything they could ever need ran into a little bit of push back and went off the deep end. After watching a few episodes of The Men who Built America, it's interesting to see men who were able to dust themselves off and find success through failure.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 12, 2012 11:57 PM (NzBQO)

348 Why is the FBI raiding Bangswell's house today if they already determined no crime had occurred previously?

Yeah, also shirtless photos involved (of a guy, so don't get too excited most of you)

Consult allahpundit at Hotair.

Posted by: L, just L at November 12, 2012 11:58 PM (0PiQ4)

349 >> Last time I recall the brain size/intelligence topic being raised was
with a commenter named Random. Same argument put forth oh so reasonably.

irongrampa, Samwise IS Random. He said so a few days ago in a post.

That's all you need to know about him, really.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:59 PM (ccXZP)

350 How this troll got ingratiated around here is a mystery to me.

He has a much more sophisticated algorithm. I, for one, appreciate his effort. Much more entertaining than Gerg or ozfic, and better than Average Joe's schtick.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2012 11:59 PM (FcR7P)

351 ... I may not see Morocco for a little while ... ahhhh. The manhattan factory is in full swing. Loving reading the comments. I think we're going to be okay. ... I sit before my only candle ... ahhhh.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 12, 2012 11:59 PM (DBH1h)

352 I love you EOJ!

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:00 AM (OGJOF)

353 @355

I doubt it. I don't seriously believe that the haughty blue staters would go to war and let their children die to keep benighted red state rethugnikkkans' in their country. I was at a function this weekend in MA where the folks were relishing the thought of texas leaving.

Just get serious and push for it politically.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:00 AM (Kd6lF)

354 I will ignore the racist goose-stepping Hitler fetish maniac troll from now on.

Posted by: eman at November 13, 2012 12:00 AM (sRus3)

355 Is McAfee guilty? Or just wanted for questioning?


*****

Hiding his assets in Belize to avoid paying a wrongful death lawsuit which resulted from a recklessly run adventure company he owned in New Mexico.

Lying and exaggerating, seemingly, in every statement he makes.

Shacking up with a 17 year old girl. (I don't GAS if she was "legal")

He appears to have been a shit long before murder charges were filed against him.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:00 AM (piMMO)

356 Who says "shirtless" and not "topless"? A question that demands a serious answer, right?

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:00 AM (0PiQ4)

357 The Blog of Liberty needs to be watered with a good swatting of the friggin banhammer from time to time.

Posted by: Shit Jefferson Said, Vol. II, p. 432 at November 13, 2012 12:00 AM (OWjjx)

358 >> Last time I recall the brain size/intelligence topic being raised was
with a commenter named Random. Same argument put forth oh so reasonably.

irongrampa, Samwise IS Random. He said so a few days ago in a post.

That's all you need to know about him, really.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 11:59 PM (ccXZP)

Oh, I see.

Posted by: eman at November 13, 2012 12:01 AM (sRus3)

359 Why is the FBI raiding Bangswell's house today if they already determined no crime had occurred previously?


****

It's been reported that it's not a raid but a "consensual search". (Insert joke here)

Even so, just what the hell would they be carrying out of her place?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:01 AM (piMMO)

360 The US has not been a largely socialist nation since the 1930's. In policy terms, you have a point. But in my youth I used to insist on arguing that Democrats were really Socialists. Why? Because it was true, for one thing, but also because the communication of that truth meant something then. We were culturally opposed to socialism. It was a scandal to be labeled a socialist, and the Democrats themselves hotly denied the charge. Hotly. Fast forward to 2008, Barack Obama wins the presidency, and Newsweek runs the cover, "We're All Socialists Now". These days it doesn't pay to call out Democrats as socialists, because it is widely seen as true. And also, it is widely seen as not being a problem. After all, we've been socialist since the 1930's, right? But the fact is this: the American people WEREN'T socialist, culturally, until very recent times. Bill Clinton, the last Democrat president before Obama, BRISTLED at the charge. Because socialism was a dirty word. Then, poof. File all that away. We've always been a socialist nation, don't ya know? And we've always been at war with Oceania!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 13, 2012 12:02 AM (WcgMM)

361 As per the story over at Drudge that American Citizens are hanging their flags upside down in protest of the election, I turned mine over and will leave it that way until weather forces me to bring it in.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 13, 2012 12:02 AM (yk8/j)

362 Who says "shirtless" and not "topless"? A question that demands a serious answer, right?


****

Men don't typically refer to their attire as a "top".

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:02 AM (piMMO)

363 Ha, Charles Bronson on Big Valley.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:02 AM (OGJOF)

364 Sooner rather than later, I'm going to start another HQ and invite everyone but the trolls, since it is apparently beyond our ability to bust them here.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 13, 2012 12:03 AM (I2LwF)

365 Lying and exaggerating, seemingly, in every statement he makes.

White House Chief of Staff?

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 12:03 AM (FcR7P)

366 Sam,

"the GOP must reach out to minorities and recent immigrants if it wants to win elections."

"Reach Out" to minorities doesn't mean change the philosophy. It means teach the philosophy.

What good does it do if the Executive and Legislative Branch is loaded with Republicans that fall in lock step with Progressives?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 12:04 AM (uvNSk)

367 The article liked in the post about McAfee is much more interesting, and telling, than the link in the headline itself.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:05 AM (piMMO)

368 377

Right. They already seized her computer. So what else? Blue dress is a possibility. Yeah, and why did that writer use shirtless instead of topless as an adjective? That's really important. I need to know.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:05 AM (0PiQ4)

369
Norman AND Roman Polanski = white = going to Hell

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 12:05 AM (DoZD+)

370 White House Chief of Staff?


*****

Candidate for office.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:05 AM (piMMO)

371 Obama is too prideful to just let Texas leave , he'd be droning folks left and right.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 13, 2012 12:05 AM (nD2pm)

372 385 - correct on this for sure, but walter you didn't answer my question about your accusation before

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:06 AM (Kd6lF)

373 So it's been officially declared Meatless Monday in Los Angeles by city council. Some food chain should run Eat Meat Mondays or something

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 13, 2012 12:06 AM (NzBQO)

374 Smells like cat piss.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:07 AM (OGJOF)

375 @392

Pyro,

Yes I did....Comment #336

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 12:07 AM (uvNSk)

376
326

So if it reached a point where a majority of Texans decided they no longer wished to participate in a mockery of the Constitution, then would secession be an acceptable option?
I should mention also that Vermont has had a secession movement within its ranks for years now, but somehow liberals refrain from calling those people crazy.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 13, 2012 12:07 AM (8cOY0)

377 Any Baltimore morons around?

Whatcha think about that new participatory tax system going on up there?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:08 AM (piMMO)

378 391
- blues murdering reds, perhaps you're right. that's one war i don't see code pink or the occupy people protesting. naked hypocrisy, which *might* not bear out, but i can see it happening.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:08 AM (Kd6lF)

379 Smells like cat piss.


****

Where?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:09 AM (piMMO)

380 Yes, Meatless Monday. What? You mean like Roman Catholic Lenten Fridays? All year long? Isn't there a separation of Church and State issue swimming around here? Ah, shucks, no. Secularism is the opposite of religion! It would never get in your business and tell you not to eat meat on Fridays, for instance. It does that on Mondays instead!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 13, 2012 12:09 AM (WcgMM)

381 ahh sorry, missed it

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:09 AM (Kd6lF)

382 381

Thanks for that. Now I can sleep easily tonight. So many nagging questions. But wait, did the headlines about Paul Ryan' workouts refer to him as "shirtless"? Damn, I won't sleep tonight unless I search Drudge's vault.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:09 AM (0PiQ4)

383 Reach out? What in hell does that mean? How exactly are we to explain Constitutional principals any better than we, not to mention our forebearers, have done already? It seems that Normal Vincent Peale on steroids couldn't influence a lot of these people.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 13, 2012 12:10 AM (8cOY0)

384 NDH -

Whatcha think about that new participatory tax system going on up there?

What the heck is participatory tax?

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:11 AM (OGJOF)

385 so...

Anyone out there with hope to share?

Posted by: mrshad at November 13, 2012 12:11 AM (0yAqu)

386 The ONT used to be a refuge from the insanity.

Posted by: davidt at November 13, 2012 12:12 AM (8/bPb)

387 @399
- true, we can become the social democrats and they can be the social liberal party and those will be the choices once we have enough years of 'social insurance' expansion and we catch up with the northern europeans. but then there is no voice for conservativism and we don't in fact change anything causing this seemingly inexorable march into supernanny state.

contrariwise, secession or a 3rd party might actually change the game.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:13 AM (Kd6lF)

388 Reach out? What in hell does that mean?

Yep. How do we reach low-effort voters? Maybe we already have and they've said, "Pfft, freedom. Sounds like work."

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 12:14 AM (FcR7P)

389 Take a look at Breitbart tonight

Holy crap, if this stuff is true then this whole story makes sense. The BO admin has been supplying weapons to rebels all across the 'arab spring', and BO wanted those weapons back before they could be used to do anything politically damaging in the election year, so the CIA and Stevens (who facilitated the supplying of said weapons) were sent to Benghazi where rebels were being held and interrogated (tortured), and they were there the same time the terrorist rebels launched an attack on the compound killing Stevens and the CIA agents (former Navy SEALs). Now Petreus was blackmailed about his affair and will be the fall guy for the whole Benghazi affair, to cover up the fact that O was supplying weapons to dangerous terrorists and that rebels were being held and tortured in the Benghazi compound on his watch.

Posted by: BuckNaked at November 13, 2012 12:14 AM (dlfef)

390 There's actually a pretty good chance of us moving to Texas some day soon. Hubby wants to move someplace nice and balmy. His diabetes makes him cold. Iowa Winter is hard on him.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 12:15 AM (DoZD+)

391 I think insolvency at the federal level is much more likely that succession. There would need to be a genuinely regional rift between two distinct cultures for succession to be realistic. Our rift is ideological and virtual.

There may well be succession if the DC goes tits up, but that would be a formal matter to protect the state's residents from liability for federal debts. And at that point DC would be in no position to enforce the union.

But a classical succession movement is extremely unlikely.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 13, 2012 12:15 AM (J4gw3)

392 Shirtless = Male Topless = Female

Posted by: sammyboy at November 13, 2012 12:15 AM (o0Cz/)

393 The ONT used to be a refuge from the insanity.

I thought so too.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:16 AM (OGJOF)

394 Wait... wait.... wait... wait... AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Boom goes the dynamite....

Posted by: Mjölnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at November 13, 2012 12:16 AM (Jls4P)

395 So, will Petraeus be rewarded for taking the fall for Obama?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 12:16 AM (DoZD+)

396 419 Yes, Obama will pay for his divorce lawyer.

Posted by: no good deed at November 13, 2012 12:18 AM (mjR67)

397 Samwise Gamgee, you suck

If you can't make a point or 2 in less than 4 sentences.... then nobody reads your blogpost posts







Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 12:18 AM (2CiZb)

398 Chemicals kicking in. Back to work tomorrow. I gotta work so some nasty, fat, white woman can buy herself a new tattoo.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 13, 2012 12:18 AM (DoZD+)

399 Fuck Obama.

LET IT BURN!

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 13, 2012 12:18 AM (ovpNn)

400 @399

Sam,

"I don't think you're going to be able to convince enough people, without moving toward some of their current concerns."

Some their concerns effect my ability to be Free and my country's sovereignty which makes them my enemy not my neighbor. I've never had any hang ups defending my country from enemies foreign & domestic.

I have no expectation for ever being politically represented again...you guys wanted the responsibility for your philosophy, now your going to get it. Don't come crying to us when it's rejected.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 12:19 AM (uvNSk)

401 412

Somebody, please, write a movie script or book? Somebody, make some money. The times demand it. Social justice whispered in my ear seductively and told me so.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:20 AM (0PiQ4)

402 @ 422

No, you don't. Just quit. go left, get the handouts, help it collapse.
Help it die.
Let it burn.

Posted by: mrshad at November 13, 2012 12:20 AM (0yAqu)

403 McAfee's driving purpose in life appears to be creating the perfect rape drug.

Posted by: holygoat at November 13, 2012 12:20 AM (IGIFh)

404 Whatcha think about that new participatory tax system going on up there?



What the heck is participatory tax?


****

I heard about it today.

There is a tax which has generated $3M and they are allowing all individuals over the age of 15 to submit their suggestions for how it will be spent. Then the top suggestions will go to the ballot for a vote.

Wanna bet they end up with a new dog park or throw a big ass party with it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:20 AM (piMMO)

405 @414

If you are correct, then we have no known recourse. Clever marketing is not going to cut it; these are deep seated moral and philosophical positions. We are married to a very ugly hag named social conservativism. Even if she's mother Theresa, the electorate doesn't want her in the family.

So again folks, I would like to have it explained what the more likely successful solution is. This is like Cornwall Capital or Frontpoint trying to figure out how they might have been wrong about credit default swaps on subprime mortgage bonds and synthetic CDOs...Show me the error in my thinking and I won't double down.

But as of now, I won't waste a vote on the GOP.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:21 AM (Kd6lF)

406 Now Petreus was blackmailed about his affair and will be the fall guy for the whole Benghazi affair

Wonder how much his silence is costing the taxpayers.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM (FcR7P)

407 McAfee's driving purpose in life appears to be creating the perfect rape drug.


****

No shit.

A total douche pretending to be working towards the betterment of mankind.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM (piMMO)

408 If the Republicans have to become the "me-too" party, we may as well just liquidate it. America will be a one-party state, and we'll just have to pick up the pieces when it collapses.

I think the Republicans need to stick to their principles. If we think those ideas are right, then sacrificing them in order to gain power is literally immoral.

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM (lUNip)

409 I like when it has to talk to itself. Make it do that more.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM (1Y+hH)

410 Now Petreus was blackmailed about his affair and will be the fall guy for the whole Benghazi affair



Wonder how much his silence is costing the taxpayers.


*****

I believe this whole thing is about discrediting him because he intends to spill the beans.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM (piMMO)

411 Thanks Walter. You said it so much better than I could have and it's exactly what I feel.

Samwise is what I was referring to a cat piss. For weeks I have been reading his tired and sometimes repetative drivel.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM (OGJOF)

412 Patraeus is a shoo-in for the Piece Prize.

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 13, 2012 12:24 AM (BVkEs)

413 Good evening to the HQ. Secession and 3rd party. LetItBurn party

Posted by: zeera at November 13, 2012 12:24 AM (Lv9bM)

414
Somebody, please, write a movie script or book? Somebody, make some
money. The times demand it. Social justice whispered in my ear
seductively and told me so.


****

If this whole cluster doesn't end up as a plot in a Brad Thor novel then it will be a waste.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:24 AM (piMMO)

415 Boomerangs, anyone?


Toss it here.

Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 12:25 AM (z9HTb)

416 NDH I thought that was CA not NH. Holy cow. Not good.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:25 AM (OGJOF)

417 442
Boomerangs, anyone?


Toss it here.


Posted by: fluffy at November 13, 2012 12:25 AM (z9HTb)

---
Back at ya.......

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 13, 2012 12:26 AM (BVkEs)

418 NDH I thought that was CA not NH. Holy cow. Not good.


****

NH?

Heh.

I thought it was Baltimore.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:27 AM (piMMO)

419 438

Yeah. I love you whoever you are.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:28 AM (0PiQ4)

420 Republicans need to look to Canada to see how conservatives can win [link in nick]

Hey, GOP, Stephen Harper has a blueprint, including winning immigrants: did you even bother to look it up?

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 12:28 AM (jKE+Z)

421 Arright I'm out. Sam deserves the Shanaban Hammer for the race-based politics. He undermines the real discussion we're actually trying to have and is, I think, a liability to ace.

Godspeed folks see ya tomorrow.

Posted by: Pyrrho of Elis II: The Secret of the Ooze at November 13, 2012 12:28 AM (Kd6lF)

422 >>>If you are correct, then we have no known recourse.
_

Sure we do. We know the Progressive State is going to fail. We know that there are already plenty of alternatives. We can support them. The end of the Progressive State does not mean the end of the world, or the end of Liberty, or the end of America.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 13, 2012 12:28 AM (J4gw3)

423 It's not something you'll have to worry about for a long time.

Why wait?

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:29 AM (OGJOF)

424 Q: What's the microcephalin gene variant? A: Microcephalin is a gene that leads to rapid brain growth and the Neanderthal version is significantly different than ours.

OK, thanks.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 13, 2012 12:29 AM (l0s2K)

425 samwise, there were no neanderthals.

its a myth created to explain macroevolution. and it falls flat on its face.

and i love the 'evidence' they dredge up, half skeletons that barely resemble wind chimes. and a few skulls that are laughably being portrayed as real.

really, neanderthals are just as much a tall tale as aliens flying around in saucers...

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 13, 2012 12:30 AM (nVqtU)

426 Susan Rice the new Sec of State? Horse face at Defense and Brennan at CIA? And you thought things were bad the first 4 years? I don't know how I will make it thru the next 4

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 13, 2012 12:31 AM (79ueO)

427 Amber Alert for Bill Kristol
He was last seen crawling up Obama's asscrack.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 12:31 AM (lD8ju)

428 Ugh. Someone took a samwise on the floor.

I hope they clean it up.

Posted by: AshKente at November 13, 2012 12:31 AM (SP4jC)

429 Sure we do. We know the Progressive State is going to fail. We know that there are already plenty of alternatives. We can support them. The end of the Progressive State does not mean the end of the world, or the end of Liberty, or the end of America.

My complaint is they are taking me and mine down with them. Fuck em.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:32 AM (OGJOF)

430 >>>Which were required not only for the technology, but also the development of suitable political systems.

Not nearly as much as you think. Our neural net has not had a 5% increase in overall capability throughout the history of human civilization. You cannot postulate that a thinking machine which can on average understand algebra was not way overpowered for the first elements of human scientific development. In reality suggesting mankind had the mental capacity to form civilizations millennia before he did. Never doing until law and virtue seemed to spring out of the void.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 13, 2012 12:32 AM (GE1+K)

431 hope they don't fuck up the sequel to one of the greatest games ever, Barkley, Shut Up And Jam: Gaiden

Posted by: The Dude at November 13, 2012 12:32 AM (tw6Ar)

432 I believe this whole thing is about discrediting him because he intends to spill the beans.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:22 AM


or just because he knows where the bodies are buried.

Still, he DID have the affair. He did risk security by his actions and he is an adulterer. (by his own admission).

Posted by: AshKente at November 13, 2012 12:33 AM (SP4jC)

433 really, neanderthals are just as much a tall tale as aliens flying around in saucers...

Yeah, they're more cigar shaped craft.

Posted by: The Greys at November 13, 2012 12:34 AM (xKC/c)

434 if there is any reason for caucasoids and mongoloids having a somewhat higher genetic IQ i think it would be because of our nomadic tendencies. the two species have lived in and adapted to differing topographies and weather circumstances as opposed to other human races.

i think it factors in that we had to use a little more brain-power to survive the various conditions. its certainly an interesting topic. and i dont find it racist by any means.

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 13, 2012 12:34 AM (nVqtU)

435 441

Most depressing thought of the night: Not Brad Thor. Hollywood will make a movie, but in reverse with a Republican in office instead of O. It wins the Academy Awards. Resulting in more dummies being corrupted thinking "It's Bush's fault!"

Yeah, that's how it will play out. I need to give up thinking. I'm my own worst enemy.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:36 AM (0PiQ4)

436 Still, he DID have the affair. He did risk security by his actions and he is an adulterer. (by his own admission).


****

Oh yes! My intention was not to make light of that in any way. To the contrary, I find it disturbing that the head of the CIA didn't spot what amounts to a stalker from a mile away. He has lied and cheated and humiliated his family. He made himself vulnerable to blackmail or to undue influence.

Yet....

If he were playing ball, they would never force him out and if he didn't resign, it might have appeared cheap to appear on the stand as the sitting head and tell it all.

Until he testifies and proves me wrong, I'm still not willing to give up completely.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:39 AM (piMMO)

437 Looks like Tejas got their 25,000 sigs lickety split.

Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 12:40 AM (2t6Gz)

438 Whenever I would think of "Rush Limbaugh bio pic", John Cusack would always come immediately to mind.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 12:41 AM (lD8ju)

439 I find it hard to believe that Patreaus is a turncoat.

Almost every politician in Washington has been an adulterer. Some of them are even Rapists. This shit doesn't reach the public eye unless it is being used as a Political Manuver.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 12:42 AM (uvNSk)

440 322
Mitt Romney: ran for president for six years, conceded in six minutes.



The only Republican with any honor is Allen West.

Posted by: Truman North, last of the famous international playboys at November 12, 2012 11:41

************

What tripe. The campaign took years and months, the actual vote less than a day. Just WHEN did that "six minutes" concession start---when Romney began speaking? Should he have have spoken for six years?

Did Romney lose in ANY state where he could have challenged, got a recount AND possibly changed the overall EC outcome? If so, please say where and why.

As for the only Republican "with any honor" comment: did the Republicans who WON at the state level lack honor too?

Pffft.

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 13, 2012 12:42 AM (YwXwp)

441 Everyone here would agree that things look impossibly bleak for our country. Damn near impossible to defeat the Democrat demographics and platform we say. Yet, we must look at who is running the show. Is it the utterly inept servants of a social engineering experiment which has always failed. Or is it the Lord Almighty who created us and the galaxies around us. Jesus said to Pilate if weren't for the Father placing Pilate in power he wouldn't even be questioning him. The reasons the Leftist hate Christ so much is because He takes them off their throne of self-
importance.
Fear not the leftists and what they can do but fear Him who can cast the body into hell. All the lies and deceptions the leftists heap upon us are really heaped upon their puny souls. And in the day of judgement they will know what wailing and gnashing of teeth really means. They will get an eternity to remember their foul deeds and their love of the lie.

Posted by: samsom at November 13, 2012 12:43 AM (epKT0)

442 I learned more here tonight about Neanderthals than I usually do on a Monday night.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 12:43 AM (lD8ju)

443 I still don't undertand why a decorated supposedly R General accepted an appointment to head of the CIA in a D administration. Panetta shoulda stayed there and the General could have head up Dept. of Defense, his expertise. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 12:43 AM (OGJOF)

444 Hollywood will make a movie, but in reverse with a Republican in office instead of O.

In the movie, Obama will be heroically holding off Sandy while Petraeus concocts some story about a so-called uprising in Benghazi. Turns out he's running Republican Rape Centers over there which are the actual reason for Al Qaeda.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 12:43 AM (FcR7P)

445 It is a story that indicts everyone. Jim Kendall is cruel. The barber is so morally blind that he mistakes Jim’s evil for innocent fun. The townspeople never question Jim’s motives or those of his cronies at Wright’s poolroom and, because no one sees Paul as human, they cannot conceive of him plotting to kill Kendall. Even the reader is lulled to sleep by the easy delivery of the barber. It is only on the second read that many readers understand how terrible the people in this town are, and how awful Lardner thinks people are in general.

--Great reading.

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 12:44 AM (jKE+Z)

446 The couple getting their Romney sign the day after the election is emblematic of the pathetic ground game that the Romney campaign had. I live in Cincinnati and I saw very few Romney signs which struck me as odd. The local Republican rep had TONS of signs everywhere, but RR signs were few and far between. It seemed very odd to me at the time. We now know that even this basic task was beyond them. Sigh.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 13, 2012 12:45 AM (s/PhC)

447 Almost every politician in Washington has been an adulterer. Some of
them are even Rapists. This shit doesn't reach the public eye unless it
is being used as a Political Manuver.


****

The only way to remove the ability of someone to blackmail, or continue to blackmail you, is to come clean.

It will has cost him, but he has a chance to do the right thing.

As awful as it is, I am a lifted a bit to know that his actions brought such shame to him as to even qualify as blackmail-worthy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 12:47 AM (piMMO)

448 463
if there is any reason for caucasoids and mongoloids having a somewhat
higher genetic IQ i think it would be because of our nomadic tendencies.
...

i think it factors in that we had to use a little more brain-power
to survive the various conditions. its certainly an interesting topic.
and i dont find it racist by any means.

*********
totally speculative, totally untestable, and therefore totally unscientific.

But yeah, those nomadic Japanese are really amazing!

Ditto those Khirghiz, Uzbeks, and other nomadic central Asians, as well as those mongoloid Mongolians---all Bringers and Keepers of Civilization's Fire!!


Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 13, 2012 12:47 AM (YwXwp)

449 It's not like you're going to reverse those demographic or technological trends. Or even that anyone would make a serious effort to try.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 12, 2012 11:11 PM (SKX2R)
-
The demographic trends were artificially created and are artificially maintained. They can be reversed.

The alternative is to accept permanent mass immigration into White countries and forced integration and assimilation, with the result that all the Black countries will stay Black, all the Asian countries will stay Asia, and so on, but all the White countries will be gone. So will all the White people.

That means the end of all the values and institutions beloved by White people. Don't kid yourself that you can kill all the silkworms and still get silk.

There is no reward for giving up. The only future that offers hope is one where we reverse the demographic trends.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 12:48 AM (tnnS6)

450 @475

Did you ever wonder if Romney realized late in the game that the economic problem was already out of his ability, and decided he wasn't about to take the fall for it all?

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 12:49 AM (uvNSk)

451 As a guy here on the border, let me tell you, the Pubbies will never get shit off of the Hispanic vote.

Its locked into the Dims more now than ever.
Read Heather MacDonalds article at NRO.

It's a fucking pipe dream to pander to that.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 12:50 AM (lD8ju)

452 "totally speculative, totally untestable, and therefore totally unscientific.

But yeah, those nomadic Japanese are really amazing!

Ditto those Khirghiz, Uzbeks, and other nomadic central Asians, as well as those mongoloid Mongolians---all Bringers and Keepers of Civilization's Fire!!

---which is why i used the term "I THINK" before my little theory....idiot.

man's migration patterns are also just a little scientific theory in case you slept that little lesson away....in 4th grade...

Posted by: laughing at neck braces at November 13, 2012 12:51 AM (nVqtU)

453 >>>Did you ever wonder if Romney realized late in the game that the
economic problem was already out of his ability, and decided he wasn't
about to take the fall for it all?
__

I doubt that. But I do remember being suspicious of him because he seemed to believe the problems could be reversed. I thought it made him grossly out of touch.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 13, 2012 12:51 AM (J4gw3)

454 Seems to me that the more recent the arrival at AoS the more zealous they are to see the "banhammer" applied to disparate viewpoints. For chrissake I thought considering different points of view was part of the whole point. Yay let's turn AoS into LGF where we hear one unitary point of view that everyone agrees with

Posted by: DAve at November 13, 2012 12:51 AM (XDC0v)

455 The culture crowd has been damning small-town White America since such a thing existed. This is no news.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 12:52 AM (tnnS6)

456 479 - Nah. I actually think he was sold a bill of goods and believed he advisors.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 13, 2012 12:52 AM (s/PhC)

457 The parents ran out of ethnic groups before they got to me.

Posted by: Polish Polanski at November 13, 2012 12:54 AM (pkkxZ)

458 Should read *his* advisors.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 13, 2012 12:55 AM (s/PhC)

459 473

One flaw in that theory, our Religion of Peace Muslims love rape. The savages use it as weapon. They would have been been assisting Repuican Rape Centers. They, unlike us, don't discriminate those they hate. D or R? What's the difference? Just proceed and rape.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:55 AM (pNUIC)

460 As a half-Ashkenazi Jew (the other half, sadly, being the stupider Sephardic half), my giant brain will defeat you puny Aborigines with your schmucky boomerangs, Crocodile Dundee T-shirts and bottles of Veg-A-Mite.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 12:55 AM (lD8ju)

461 I will concede the notion of interbreeding between early Cro-Magnon and Neanderthals affecting brain development, but first you will blow me.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at November 13, 2012 12:57 AM (8/bPb)

462 Mmmmmmm.Brains!

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 13, 2012 12:57 AM (uvNSk)

463 476

Sufficiently, no, minimally, uplifting. Good enough for me. Thanks for the boost.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 12:59 AM (pNUIC)

464 I believe Romney just thought he was next in line for the monarchy.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 01:00 AM (OGJOF)

465 Romney just was under the same delusion that we were: that the American electorate was worth half a shit.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:01 AM (lD8ju)

466 493 As a half-Ashkenazi Jew (the other half, sadly, being the stupider Sephardic half), my giant brain will defeat you puny Aborigines with your schmucky boomerangs, Crocodile Dundee T-shirts and bottles of Veg-A-Mite.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 12:55 AM (lD8ju)

--Are you trying to tempt me?

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:03 AM (jKE+Z)

467 Romney just was under the same delusion that we were: that the American electorate was worth half a shit.


****

Who would believe that half the electorate would vote for their own death by a thousand cuts?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:03 AM (piMMO)

468 One flaw in that theory, our Religion of Peace Muslims love rape.

Not in the movie.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 01:04 AM (FcR7P)

469 Night all. We are doomed with corruption, the likes we have never seen, forat least for the next four years.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 01:05 AM (OGJOF)

470 Can't sleep. Clown'll eat me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 13, 2012 01:05 AM (i0App)

471 @494

Sam,

The problem with that is reasonable people believed Obama couldn't go negative unless he had a good record to run on. This is the lesson learned....we now know the IQ of the country.

Romney played defense late in the game, and I for one do not believe the election was on the up-in-up.

But I digress....It is possible that the Republican establishment never wanted to win, many believe thats why we had McCain last time, because the problems cannot be fixed...therefore there is no reason for Republicans to be left holding the bag when the homeowner wakes from his slumber.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 13, 2012 01:07 AM (uvNSk)

472 I also don't buy the "conservative bubble/cocooning" meme. I hardly think it's outrageous to think an incumbent president with a terrible economy and dismal approval ratings won't be able to get a d+6 turnout. I was hoping for r+1 or even, or at worst D+3. I think that was a reasonable assumption based on history. Of course, none of us knew what a disaster ORCA and the ground game would be.

After some time for reflection now, I refuse to believe that we need a major overhaul for the party. We didn't lose because of messaging or demographics. Instead, we lost because we simply failed at basic shoe leather politics. Get out the damn vote.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 13, 2012 01:07 AM (s/PhC)

473 454

Mister Samwise,

Pessimistic me says you're onto something. But I wish you weren't.

I feel so dumb. I admired this General (scratch that, lowercase g) general once. Actually a lot.

I don't know who to believe anymore.

Samwise, I hate that I think you might be right

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 01:08 AM (xagT+)

474 --Are you trying to tempt me?
Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:03 AM (jKE+Z)
Let me introduce myself: Bill E. Greenberg, SuperGenius



Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:09 AM (lD8ju)

475 "Lolita" is on the TurnerClassicMovie Channel.

Sue Lyon was only 14 in that film--an old lady, but still....

Posted by: Roman Polanski, raconteur at November 13, 2012 01:10 AM (Dll6b)

476 We lost because we didn't kick Bill Kristol's ass just for fun.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:10 AM (lD8ju)

477 Aha!

Now Gen. Allen caught up in the scandal.

It seems Ms. Kelly is not so innocent after all and might explain the undue interest in those non-threatening emails from Broadwell.

http://tinyurl.com/ah3ex4t

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:11 AM (piMMO)

478 Samwise/Random, you were banned before for posting racial shit. Yet you have returned and are doing the same damn thing. YOU ARE STILL BANNED. DO NOT POST ANYMORE.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 13, 2012 01:12 AM (XkotV)

479 @515

What about Mid-Term 2010. Democrats lost their Ass.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 13, 2012 01:12 AM (uvNSk)

480 Can't sleep. Clown'll eat me.


****

Just keep a really large powder-puff and a squirting flower by your bed.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:15 AM (piMMO)

481 4 WHOLE elections in a row? Gosh, what are you, 21 years old? I don't remember any cocooning in 2010 when we won 60 seats. In 2006 I thought we would lose one or both houses and we did. In 2008, no one seriously thought McCain could win. Come on man.

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 13, 2012 01:15 AM (s/PhC)

482 @520

What evidence? You never drew a conclusion?

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at November 13, 2012 01:17 AM (uvNSk)

483 BTW, how fucking stupid does the Kelly chick have to be to set off a chain reaction that results in the discovery of her own affair?

Wanna bet she writes a book?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:17 AM (piMMO)

484 Wow it does't stop--

Supposedly this is breaking--I just found it so don't know how old it is.


_____________

General Investigated for Emails to Petraeus Friend




By ROBERT BURNS AP National Security Writer
ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT November 13, 2012 (AP)
The Pentagon says the top American commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, is under investigation for alleged "inappropriate communications" with Jill Kelley, the woman who is said to have received threatening emails from Paula Broadwell, the woman with whom former CIA Director David Petraeus had an extramarital affair.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta says the FBI referred the matter to the Pentagon on Sunday. Panetta says he ordered a Pentagon investigation of Allen on Monday.

A senior defense official, who discussed the matter only on condition of anonymity because it is under investigation, said Allen's communications were with Kelley, who has been described as an unpaid social liaison at MacDill Air Force Base, Fla., which is headquarters to the U.S. Central Command.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:17 AM (r2PLg)

485 Samwise.

It's his playground. His rules.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:18 AM (piMMO)

486 No bet.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 01:18 AM (OGJOF)

487 449 Arright I'm out. Sam deserves the Shanaban Hammer for the race-based politics.
-
Nowadays, race-based politics is just bringing a gun to a gunfight. Race is what the Democratic Party is all about. Race is why they are winning. They're importing a new nation on the assumption that it will vote the way the want, and they are right.

The Republican Party gets 90% of its votes from Whites, and Mitt Romney won both sexes and every age group among Whites, but he lost because non-Whites vote 80% Democrat, and the Democrats take care to import millions of them while promoting anti-family values that drive down the fertility of Whites.

That is what the fight is about. If you don't address that, you're just kidding yourself. And you will lose.

And the Republican Party is indeed losing, specifically by not living up to its responsibility to give political protection to its mass base. The party acts like a general who thinks he can afford to let his soldiers all be killed and he will win anyway through his abstract principles and genius. It's not working.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 01:19 AM (tnnS6)

488 So fucking a couple of hot Army groupie chicks is more serious than letting our Ambassador be murdered and possibly raped.

Got it.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:19 AM (lD8ju)

489 516 Samwise/Random, you were banned before for posting racial shit. Yet you have returned and are doing the same damn thing. YOU ARE STILL BANNED. DO NOT POST ANYMORE.
Posted by: Mætenloch at November 13, 2012 01:12 AM (XkotV)

___________

That's been Random this whole time?

Sheesh.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:19 AM (r2PLg)

490 omgz, that lardner story is so good!

i've been needing a fiction fix. i think i'll look into ordering a collection of his short stories.

what a threat. what desolation. @.@

Posted by: jimi ray at November 13, 2012 01:19 AM (79EF9)

491 >>>I've seen it 4 elections in a row, so I find it easier to buy.

Meh. You are overrated. There isn't any more optimism than a team has in a close fight. That isn't cocooning its called not forfitting. If you called the election good for you. Just know that your outreach ideas are non starters. Once a people make a decision to pursue a life free from virtue and responsibility, only pain and suffering will bring them back. Not getting smarter. Lack of virtue can and does effect any intelligence level. So for the most part, discussion of intelligence and who's smarter than who is a waste of time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 13, 2012 01:20 AM (GE1+K)

492 514

Is Allen the shirtless guy?

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 01:21 AM (Puqto)

493 Inbred. the lot of them.

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 01:21 AM (OGJOF)

494
Spamwize ... particularly comment #480:

I've seen those numbers before ... years ago ... at StrategyPage, IIRC, but maybe I'm wrong ... posted by a guy from China ... mainland China, the PRC.

We figured he had to post them ... his alternative was ... unpleasant.

Are you sure you want to use this stuff?

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2012 01:21 AM (RrmXU)

495 So fucking a couple of hot Army groupie chicks is more serious than letting our Ambassador be murdered and possibly raped.



Got it.

****

S.E. Cupp tweeted earlier tonight, prior to the Allen revelations:

It's a wonder men get anything done. Ever. "FBI Agent Sent Shirtless Photos of Himself"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:22 AM (piMMO)

496 I am liking Jeb Bush 2016. Karl Rove is genius!



Live from Arab Spring Heights

Posted by: Mohamed Abdul Muhammad Muhamed at November 13, 2012 01:22 AM (/A1Rb)

497 Is Allen the shirtless guy?


****

Nope.

That was an FBI agent.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:22 AM (piMMO)

498 Lightworker, you're another one who'll be on their way out.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 01:22 AM (FcR7P)

499 Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 01:19 AM (tnnS6)

--Hate to admit it, but you're right. It's not even really a racial issue, but just that non-whites prefer free shit ceteris paribus

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:23 AM (jKE+Z)

500 522

Stop depressing me. They'll all write the books and we'll all buy them

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (Puqto)

501 Where the heck is everyone. The west coasters bail on us already?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (piMMO)

502 So Paul Boadwell says that her--

"sponsor" talked her out of the AF Academy and into West Point.

Looks like it might have been Sen. Byron Dorgan (D)


There is also video of her running defense for Hillary, and Obama on Benghazi--and calling it "political".

So if it is Dorgan that was her sponsor to West Point and *if* he was influential enough in her life to talk her out of the Air Force Academy-- she might hold Dorgan in high regard.

One of her pet projects was allowing women in combat--a liberal ideal.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (r2PLg)

503 @527

I agree completely. The problem is your not gonna steal their voters from them. Take away the Republican scapegoat and force the Democrat party to moderate.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (uvNSk)

504 Jeb Bush is getting fitted with a pair of huaraches and a Nuevo Laredo tourist sombrero

His Hispandering is EPIC!

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:25 AM (lD8ju)

505 Those IQ stats are from a book of which I don't remember the name. But IQ shouldn't matter much in a republic.

Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:25 AM (2t6Gz)

506 541 Where the heck is everyone. The west coasters bail on us already?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (piMMO)

--Read "Haircut"

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:25 AM (jKE+Z)

507 483

---which is why i used the term "I THINK" before my little theory....idiot.



man's migration patterns are also just a little scientific theory in case you slept that little lesson away....in 4th grade...
************No, man's historical migration patterns are a matter of fact, not "theory".
It's your unsupported assertion that nomadic life somehow led to more human intelligence that is dumb.If nomads are so shit smaht, then why is the invention of agriculture considered a key event in the rise of civilization? Nomads don't tend crops, create cities, develop centralized defense, build public works, and the like. They just wander back and forth, tending their flocks.Face it: you're just making things up. Your theory is not just "little", it is infinitesmal.
Just to add local color, I was stoned by Baluchis in Afghanistan a long time ago. They didn't impress me as so shit intelligent, just the opposite ---they were dumbasses.After all, here we are living in the modern world, and they're still living in tents, tending sheep and wandering between Afghanistan's mountains and Baluchistan.As someone said, "there's a big difference between putting a man on the moon and putting a bone in your nose".
Derrrr....




Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 13, 2012 01:26 AM (YwXwp)

508 Looks like it might have been Sen. Byron Dorgan (D)


There is also video of her running defense for Hillary, and Obama on Benghazi--and calling it "political".

So if it is Dorgan that was her sponsor to West Point and *if* he was influential enough in her life to talk her out of the Air Force Academy-- she might hold Dorgan in high regard.

One of her pet projects was allowing women in combat--a liberal ideal.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (r2PLg)

--Where is Broadwell from?

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:26 AM (jKE+Z)

509 S.E. Cupp tweeted earlier tonight, prior to the Allen revelations:It's a wonder men get anything done. Ever. "FBI Agent Sent Shirtless Photos of Himself"
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:22 AM (piMMO)

So tell me NDH, are women ormen morevindictive that women? I usually play for the long run!

Posted by: Infidel at November 13, 2012 01:27 AM (OGJOF)

510 >>>And you will lose.

And we will lose, because there is no addressing that without the requisite suffering to clarify reality for those that believe in utopia. That pain is coming. No clever plan avoids the fall now. Best to insulate yourself from it as best you can, and be ready to speak truth and virtue to the remnants.

You would simply sell out for victory and reach the same place anyway in time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 13, 2012 01:27 AM (GE1+K)

511 Is it the FBI's job to dig up dirt on the military/ex-military?

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 01:27 AM (FcR7P)

512 318
Just a question for academic discussion.
At what point would secession become justified? How far from the original intent of the Constitution would the country have to drift before such a thing could be an acceptable consideration?
I guess what I'm getting at here is there has to be a breaking point when it comes to centralized government and disregard for the Tenth Amendment. I'm not necessarily suggesting it's been reached. What I'm asking is....is there a point where itCAN be reached?
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 12, 2012 11:39 PM (8cOY0)


----------------------------


When states start refusing to comply with DC or fed courts concerning the obvious un-constitutionality of specific mandates or their destructive effects on a state's economy and when the fed shows no regard for an assertion of state sovereignty by sending in armed enforcers, then it's time to pull the plug.

We're getting close.

Posted by: Soona at November 13, 2012 01:28 AM (7kbUP)

513 538 Lightworker, you're another one who'll be on their way out.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 01:22 AM (FcR7P)
-
Maybe.

But the reality of race-based politics will still be there. This is how it works in the sort of state the Democrats have built and are still building.

Failing to address this is like bringing a slingshot to a gunfight, politically. You lose.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 01:28 AM (tnnS6)

514 Broadwell was both Homecoming Queen AND Valedictorian of her HS in Bismarck.

Wow.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:29 AM (lD8ju)

515 Want to get really pissed off go to the happy hipster site
Stuff unemployed people like.com I am done paying taxes for these people. DONE. LIB

Posted by: AlaskaGal at November 13, 2012 01:29 AM (J8XHG)

516 500
I believe Romney just thought he was next in line for the monarchy.

Posted by: Infidel

***********

Yeah, historically monarchs are elected in republics.

That's the way it's always been.

Monarch = Republic

Posted by: Teacher's Union Dolt at November 13, 2012 01:30 AM (YwXwp)

517 I'm not going to adjust my scientific conclusion for political reasons, if that's what you means.


How about adjusting your reasoning and conclusions based on the use or non-use of political data?

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2012 01:31 AM (RrmXU)

518 554 Broadwell was both Homecoming Queen AND Valedictorian of her HS in Bismarck.

Wow.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:29 AM (lD8ju)

--Broadwell and Dorgan.

"Birds of a shitfeather flock together, Randy" --Jim Lahey

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:32 AM (jKE+Z)

519 I told you Sam was a lying sack of shit.

Repeatedly.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 13, 2012 01:32 AM (SX6wc)

520
So tell me NDH, are women ormen morevindictive that women? I usually play for the long run!


****

I think, generally, men go for the cold vengeance and women got for the heat of the moment. Which, btw, made the case of the diaper-wearing astronaut so compelling.

It was a very elaborate and time-consuming plan although, for a woman of her intelligence, not particularly brilliant.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:33 AM (piMMO)

521 @549

Sam,

Affirmative Action is Racist by definition. How can a party pointing their finger at everyone else calling them Racists, use "Race" as a political wedge, and define it as "Principled"

Stick it up your Cornhole!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 01:33 AM (uvNSk)

522 --Broadwell and Dorgan.

_____________

They also are both alumni of the University of Denver--so he might have given her a referral.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:33 AM (r2PLg)

523 >>>Failing to address this is like bringing a slingshot to a gunfight, politically. You lose

We will "win" in the end. Reality simply won't support their society. Fall prey to the temptation of the race based politics, and there will be no second voice to offset the pandering chorus. And instead of a couple decades it will be a couple centuries of darkness.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 13, 2012 01:34 AM (GE1+K)

524 There's been another Bimbo Breakout!

Jill Kelley, of the itty bitty nighty and big melons fame, has her own general in the woodpile.

The best thing is that they are all democlits and obama supporters! lol!

Posted by: Redd at November 13, 2012 01:34 AM (YEG/L)

525 Sitges. Rum. Sunburns. Farther on. It has been a very good one-day-late veterans day. I hope you are all still out there...

Posted by: and irresolute at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (DBH1h)

526 Broadwell was both Homecoming Queen AND Valedictorian of her HS in Bismarck.



Wow.


****

It seems her drive was evident early on. She is a very accomplished woman, but also a stalker with a fan-girl crush.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (piMMO)

527

Ok, at what point will we learn that Broadwell is an activist, and connected to some influential and rather activist Leftist Democrats?

I see this connection coming ...

Posted by: Arbalest at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (RrmXU)

528 Found the book - IQ and the Wealth of Nations

Regardless of "race", the founding document of this republic, if adhered to, it shouldn't matter if the majority of the country averaged a 60 IQ and they elected a 70 IQ leader, the constitution should protect us from their genius ideas.

Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (2t6Gz)

529 Sen. Byron Dorgan (D)


wow o wow what an asshole he is


Broadwell is from ND

I've been to Bismark, nice place even if it is named similar to a German socialist Otto Van....


Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (2CiZb)

530 548 Looks like it might have been Sen. Byron Dorgan (D)


There is also video of her running defense for Hillary, and Obama on Benghazi--and calling it "political".

So if it is Dorgan that was her sponsor to West Point and *if* he was influential enough in her life to talk her out of the Air Force Academy-- she might hold Dorgan in high regard.

One of her pet projects was allowing women in combat--a liberal ideal.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:24 AM (r2PLg)

--Where is Broadwell from?
Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:26 AM (jKE+Z)

__________________

Petty sure she went to high school in North Dakota.

It's pretty interesting--ABC puts stuff up--and then pulls it down.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (r2PLg)

531 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 13, 2012 01:33 AM (SKX2R)
--Go away.

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (jKE+Z)

532 logprof

ND politics are so fucked up and the people up there (especially on the east side) are so fucking stupid politically that nothing surprises me.

Fat brainless shitbag Heidi Heitkamp winning the Senate was such a moment.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (lD8ju)

533 Yay I escaped Los Angeles. I'm now a moron on Oahu!!

Posted by: KZnextzone at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (s9BdN)

534 OK. So the takeaway in all the late, breaking news about Kelley/ Patreus/ Bangswell/ possibly Allen too/ plus FBI shirtless guy is that everyone in the highest levels of office are getting a lot of sex? And being well paid while they engage in this illicit behavior?

Conclusion: Get a government job.






Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (HBRB0)

535 Whoops! Looks like tasker beat me to the punch.

How come these husbands can't control their wives?

Posted by: Redd at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (YEG/L)

536 Hey, why can't we just say enough, and become democrat light, come on you guys, its not like its something we have tried before!
We can give them tax increases and they will give us huge budget cuts down the road, come on, lets do this!!
Wheeeee
And yeah obama was just a victim of petreaus. Poor obama, was never told a damn thing!

Oh and hes not really meeting with a bunch of union guys tommorow , nothing to see there.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 01:37 AM (adaoe)

537 @569

I'd bet my Nuts on it right now!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 01:38 AM (uvNSk)

538 But it was OK for President Clinton to jack off on fat practically underaged Federal employees while on the clock in the Oval Office.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:38 AM (lD8ju)

539 Sigh.

Samwise, I'd like you to meet Jugdish, Mohammed, and Mr. TB3K. I'm sure you'll find lots to talk about.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 13, 2012 01:38 AM (XkotV)

540 "We will "win" in the end. Reality simply won't support their society."

Ask the Romans about how the good guys win after a collapse.

Posted by: Polish Polanski at November 13, 2012 01:39 AM (pkkxZ)

541 We have libs and even liberal republicans who appear to sit around thinking up what to tax or ban next. They have two working brain cells dedicated full time to the subject.

Someone upthread asked at what point should a state decide to secede? The founders had a revolution over about 1/100 of what we have now.

Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:39 AM (2t6Gz)

542 ND politics are so fucked up and the people up there (especially on the east side) are so fucking stupid politically that nothing surprises me.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (lD8ju)

The stoopid fuckers imported some Somalliis in Fargo,
dumb fuckers...

Posted by: jake in ID at November 13, 2012 01:39 AM (2CiZb)

543 Anyone else seeing the stuff that ABC put up--and then they took it down?

wtf?

Actually I don't know if they put it up and then took it down...

There are these pics from her high school years that show up in google search--you follow the link to ABC and end up with nothing but code.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:39 AM (r2PLg)

544 574 logprof

ND politics are so fucked up and the people up there (especially on the east side) are so fucking stupid politically that nothing surprises me.

Fat brainless shitbag Heidi Heitkamp winning the Senate was such a moment.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 13, 2012 01:35 AM (lD8ju)

--The airwaves last month were saturated with Heidi ads. She's Dorgan 2.0; a wolf in sheep's clothing. She's not even the least bit attractive; she may be the archetypal diesel lesbian.

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:40 AM (jKE+Z)

545 Fellas.

The Natives are restless.

http://tinyurl.com/au2ew6f

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:41 AM (piMMO)

546 >>>so that they had time for leisure.

By the time Pythagoras was dabbling in philosophy dozens of cultures, including his own, had already found the answers. His supposed accomplishment was going back and clearly asking the questions.

Your conclusions are simply not supported by science or the historical record.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 13, 2012 01:43 AM (GE1+K)

547 Good evening again. I'm only kinda here. Wind's blowing, temperature's dropping, day ending in Y, odds of internet going increasing.








what was your linen decision '12?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 12, 2012 10:59 PM (cQmXn)


Howdy, Kalneva! After going back and forth with what was available in store at Bed, Bath Beyond I eventually settled on the teal. Gray wasn't me, purple and red insisted on themselves, chocolate and tan remind me of work, and white...well, I had to debate it but eventually teal won out. Something about it just seemed more inviting.
Now as for the comforter I've decided any cheap piece of shite will do. I'll hardly use it save for a total of a month out of the year and nothing at BBB looked good or if it did was too expensive whereas Target has some better ones and will be selling 'em cheap on Black Friday. Give Kohl's a look-see, too.

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 01:43 AM (4ixH5)

548 Someone upthread asked at what point should a state decide to secede? The founders had a revolution over about 1/100 of what we have now.
Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:39 AM (2t6Gz)

Come on now, we almost won this election, next time will be so much closer, after another 20/40 million people are added to the dependency american contingency!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 01:43 AM (adaoe)

549 IIRC, he chose a color based on its appeal to the contestants on "Project Runway".


Posted by: cthulhu at November 12, 2012 11:00 PM (kaalw)

Do thethe thoes make my ath look fat?

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 01:44 AM (4ixH5)

550 logprof, I don't argue about standard deviations and points of IQ and such like some others, basically for that reason. Politically, "free stuff at Whitey's expense" is a winning agenda. That's enough to drive events.

You can get too caught up in IQ issues even if it's all true. You could say lower IQ non-racial groups need free stuff at Whitey's expense more because they are less able to earn good money themselves, or you could say higher IQ non-White groups see the advantages of free stuff at Whitey's expense more clearly.

You can argue about all the different national cultures that go into the "Hispanic" category, and all the different national cultures that go into the "Asian" category.

And when you are done arguing, the election returns will come in and show that, Hispanic or Asian, low IQ or high IQ, this culture or that culture, "let's take Whitey's stuff and give it to ourselves" commands big majorities of non-Whites.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 01:44 AM (tnnS6)

551 Really interesting how ABC is going at full steam ahead--now.

Jake Tapper had that email from Stevens to State requesting a DC-3.

Have to go back to look at the date on that but he might have had that before the Oversight Committee doc dump.

If{/i} Tapper at ABC had that first--the whistle blowers might have tried to go to ABC first...


Also--it smells to high hell that all this honey pot crap is coming out--now.

Could be pay back.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:45 AM (r2PLg)

552 The Natives are restless.

http://tinyurl.com/au2ew6f

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:41 AM (piMMO)

--Oh yeah, "Native American Outfit." Sure, lots of cheetahs running around the Great Plains that native squaws made bikini bottoms out of.

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:45 AM (jKE+Z)

553 New Dem outreach to youths, lonely, and sex obsessed: Get a government job.

Benefits include: blowjobs, hand jobs, and no actually work! Single need not apply, only those who have taken wedding vows are qualified for this position. (lots of positions, consult Kamu Sutra)





Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 01:46 AM (CoNjs)

554 Ask the Romans about how the good guys win after

That time it took centuries as there weren't enough of the virtuous remaining outside the confines of the church. I did mention that possibility of "winning" that it takes centuries if we give up our principals and become populist

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at November 13, 2012 01:46 AM (GE1+K)

555 Come on now, we almost won this election, next time will be so much closer, after another 20/40 million people are added to the dependency american contingency!
Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 01:43 AM (adaoe)
----

I'm pretty sure its game over. Thats not pessimism, alcohol or emotion talking, just plain logic.

Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:47 AM (2t6Gz)

556 --Oh yeah, "Native American Outfit." Sure, lots of cheetahs running
around the Great Plains that native squaws made bikini bottoms out of.


****

I suspect the moaners and complainers that had it pulled from the show never even noticed the bikini bottom

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2012 01:47 AM (piMMO)

557 You can argue about all the different national cultures that go into the "Hispanic" category, and all the different national cultures that go into the "Asian" category.

And when you are done arguing, the election returns will come in and show that, Hispanic or Asian, low IQ or high IQ, this culture or that culture, "let's take Whitey's stuff and give it to ourselves" commands big majorities of non-Whites.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 13, 2012 01:44 AM (tnnS6)

--I'm still flabbergasted as to why generic "Asians" vote Democrat.

Posted by: logprof at November 13, 2012 01:48 AM (jKE+Z)

558 Oh, and if there are any Coen Bros. fans here, Amazon is selling a four movie collector's set featuring Blood Simple, Miller's Crossing, Fargo and Raising Arizona for $20 bucks.

http://tinyurl.com/bph5kgf

Buy through Ace's widget and support your local ewok!

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2012 01:49 AM (4ixH5)

559 The Natives are restless.

http://tinyurl.com/au2ew6f
----
Saw that this morning on FOX, just before they played a clip of SCoaMF the userper making a mockery at a wreath ceremony, wence FOX was then shut off for the day. First thing that came to mind was, had it been a tea party member it would have been top news for a month.

Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:50 AM (2t6Gz)

560 I'm pretty sure its game over. Thats not pessimism, alcohol or emotion talking, just plain logic.
Posted by: Whatev at November 13, 2012 01:47 AM (2t6Gz)

Yep

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 01:51 AM (adaoe)

561 New thread--I shat you not.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 01:52 AM (r2PLg)

562 Looks like we had a good cleansing.

Posted by: t-bird at November 13, 2012 01:54 AM (FcR7P)

563 539 I am insulted.

Posted by: Mohamed Abdul Muhammad Muhamed at November 13, 2012 01:55 AM (/A1Rb)

564 America....Fuck Yeah!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at November 13, 2012 01:57 AM (uvNSk)

565 Samwise/Random just doesn't get it -- You are banned, fuckwit. Take your superior IQ and GTFO.

Oh, and don't pull your "I'm about to commit suicide" bit either. I've seen you 'threaten' that at least twice.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 13, 2012 01:59 AM (ccXZP)

566 Okay--really want to throw up?

ABC News had that email about Stevens requesting a DC-3 on October 5th.


___________

[i]Oct 5, 2012 7:00am
Email Shows State Department Rejecting Request of Security Team at US Embassy in Libya

ABC News has obtained an internal State Department email from May 3, 2012, indicating that the State Department denied a request from the security team at the Embassy of Libya to retain a DC-3 airplane in the country to better conduct their duties.
Copied on the email was U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was killed in a terrorist attack on the diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, Sept. 11, 2012, along with three other Americans. That attack has prompted questions about whether the diplomatic personnel in that country were provided with adequate security support.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/email-

shows-state-department-rejecting-request-of-

security-team-at-us-embassy-in-libya/

_____________________

The Oversight Committee doc dump was on October 10th.

So it's possible the whistle blowers tried to go to ABC with most of it first.

Posted by: tasker at November 13, 2012 02:01 AM (r2PLg)

567 Dont be smug. It's not just the Dems and Secret Service who are getting paid to get their brains fucked out. I am sure that Repubs have got in on that angle too.

To end on a more positive note, maybe their brains have been so fucked out that we can legally and safely declare them brain dead and euthanize them. See Terri Schiavo for legal precedent.

Posted by: L, just L at November 13, 2012 02:02 AM (QRf5S)

568 Sort of related to the John McAfee story, if you haven't seen "Broke", the latest ESPN 30-for-30 episode, it's worth it.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 13, 2012 02:03 AM (1k4dd)

569 okay, just finished creating my time budget for tomorrow

good night everyone

cheer up, better days are ahead

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 02:04 AM (d/5qf)

570 "2. It's totally facepalm worthy. I'm as disappointed by the election as anyone here but am I really the only one that doesn't want to leave the country? Everyone is acting like a bunch of flippin' Hollywood leftists."

Far more important will be the states who refuse to set up Obamacare exchanges, killing the bill.

And if they want to amend the bill, guess who they have to talk to? GOP Congress.

FUCK YEAH.

Posted by: Sexypig at November 13, 2012 02:05 AM (YObA2)

571 good night everyonecheer up, better days are ahead
Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2012 02:04 AM (d/5qf)
Hi chefmjeff, night chemjeff. Hope your doing good!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 13, 2012 02:06 AM (adaoe)

572 Help me!!!

Posted by: Samwise Gamdelta at November 13, 2012 02:54 AM (jKE+Z)

573 The stomping hath stolen the magic number!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 03:54 AM (bxiXv)

574 And the trolls and the ennui. But mostly the trolls and the ennui.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at November 13, 2012 05:45 AM (HNn1q)

575 Fuckin' ennui.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2012 06:40 AM (bxiXv)

576 Normally, I'd drink to that sentiment. But; meh.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at November 13, 2012 07:04 AM (HNn1q)

577 Everybody, please send the mind warp to David Petraeus to TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP ME GOD when he testifies.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 15, 2012 02:45 AM (y2Ojs)






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