Top Headline Comments 11-12-12

Content-free like the ONT.

Posted by: Andy at 06:41 AM



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1 It's all rhymey 'n' shit.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2012 06:43 AM (z9HTb)

2 The HQ is going Galt.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 06:45 AM (nt7V9)

3 This is now my thread.


Stay off it, and off of my lawn.


Go comment elsewhere.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2012 06:45 AM (z9HTb)

4 My freedom for forty minutes and a Bamaphone!

Posted by: Free Sh*t Army at November 12, 2012 06:46 AM (IzkD0)

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Good Morning Morons. Today is Monday, November 12, 2012. On this day in 1970 a whale explodes on the
beach in Oregon.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:46 AM (YdQQY)

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Republican “leaders” getting
ready to sell us out….again.



http://is.gd/B23owT

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:47 AM (YdQQY)

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Take another sip of coffee and glance towards the barrel.

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2012 06:48 AM (z9HTb)

8 Republican bitch from my state getting ready to sell us out again. This SOB is up for election in 2014. He crosses the aisle once again and joins forced with one of the biggest SOBs in the Senate.

http://is.gd/svzHIA

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:48 AM (YdQQY)

9 The “no shit” of the day headline.. Thanksgiving dinner may cost a pretty penny as survey shows price of turkey increasing

http://is.gd/YU3e3C

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:48 AM (YdQQY)

10 Clinton tells House Benghazi panel to piss off.

http://is.gd/V5j0h1

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:48 AM (YdQQY)

11 Is secession back on the burner again? The election fallout is getting serious shit now.

http://is.gd/Yj5mHC\

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:49 AM (YdQQY)

12 BB says Kristol caves on taxes. I say you have to be against it before you can be called “caving”. Ths SOB has never been a real conservative.

http://is.gd/x4j0Mt

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:49 AM (YdQQY)

13
Kevin Clash -- the man known as the voice of Elmo -- has taken a leave of absence from Sesame Street in the wake of allegations he had a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old boy, TMZ has learned ... allegations Clash adamantly denies.

We've learned ... Sesame Workshop lawyers recently met with a 23-year-old man who claims he and Clash began a sexual relationship 7 years ago ... when he was 16 and Clash was 45.

Clash has acknowledged to TMZ he had a relationship with the young man -- but insists it only took place AFTER the accuser was an adult.


TMZ



Big Bird.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 06:49 AM (kdS6q)

14 Kindle Daily Deal:

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By turns epic and explosive, Robert Kroese's Mercury trilogy draws inspiration from the impertinent, side-splitting, and madcap adventures of Douglas Adams’s "Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy." The books chronicle the universe-saving slacker angel, Mercury. Destined to be cult favorites, today the Mercury Trilogy books are only $1.99 each (80% off).

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 06:49 AM (YdQQY)

15 herd during the radio newsbreak that FBI (?, can't remember now...) knew about Petraeus affair in 2011... not sure if the source is different from the Jennifer Griffin FOx News' source which implied the sme thing

Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 06:49 AM (opS9C)

16 Morning, everyone!

I watched the Firefly special last night....damn, I wish that show hadn't been canceled. I didn't even know the show existed during it's three month run. I never heard of it until after it was canceled. I think FOX really screwed the pooch on that one, and now it's probably too late to ever think about bringing the series back....even though all the cast members looked great, and there was a hell of a lot of enthusiasm from the thousands gathered to watch them at the 2012 comicon.

Ah well. At least I still have Jerry Springer's Disfunctional Real Housewife Confessions From Jersey Shore. /spit

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 12, 2012 06:50 AM (L7hol)

17 ilike this! content is sooo much pressure. all the reading and stuff. yaaayyy!

Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2012 06:52 AM (56kxb)

18 This new Content Free meme is great! It's like Playboy without the pictures!

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 12, 2012 06:53 AM (L7hol)

19 Now that I've had a chance to look carefully at the election results of all the races in my little town I can see exactly what the voters wanted. One word:

Gridlock.

They wanted to retain a (D) Senate and a (R) House and keep the present precedent. So, if it's gridlock they want, then that is what I hope the Republican party gives them for the four years. No compromise, no bipartisanship, tight control of spending. Obama is not the head of some third world dictatorship. If he wants something, we get something. Not just a little something, but twice something.

Smash mouth politics.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 06:54 AM (feFL6)

20 Is secession back on the burner again? The election fallout is getting serious shit now.
http://is.gd/Yj5mHC\
Posted by: Vic


I wish it were possible! Good morning to all.

Posted by: macintx at November 12, 2012 06:54 AM (/p4zq)

21 You want content? Get off my lawn.

On The Brighter Side (OTBS) on the aftermath of the election results:

My phone isn't ringing nearly as much now.
More Americans are utilizing their Second Amendment rights.
People from 20 States have petitioned the WH to secede from the Union.
Many doctors will decide to retire and get some well needed rest.
Nancy Pelosi is still in the suckass House minority.
Lots more people are reading up on prepping.
I can drive to Colorado and get legally stoned if the urge ever hits me.
There were less riots than expected.
I'm drinking less and my liver is grateful.
I don't have to check Rasmussen every day.
All that bad news they had to hide is now coming out.
I haven't seen a camgaign ad in days.
Those evil rich people are about to take it up the wazoo but hard. Some will fire their butlers.
Vic didn't fall out of his porch rocker and bump his head.
I didn't have to pick ball hairs out of my pudding.
steevy doesn't have to come with a new slogan.
As Morpheus noted in the cavern of Zion, "We are still here!"

Feel free to add your own.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 07:00 AM (ccXZP)

22 I'm drinking less and my liver is grateful.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 07:00 AM (ccXZP)


Ha! Amateur!

Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2012 07:02 AM (56kxb)

23 Thanks GnuBreed. You made me smile.

Posted by: macintx at November 12, 2012 07:04 AM (/p4zq)

24 instead of giving money to mitt romney, more money to be spent on prepping

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 12, 2012 07:05 AM (BKWpy)

25 Perhaps it is time to remind the Morons of a little bit of AOS history.


The Top Headlines thread has never been about content. The original intent was to discuss the headlines linked in the sidebar.


I started putting in link with snarky comments about headlines from all over a few years ago.


And yes, before the troll broke the blog they were real links that actually linked.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:06 AM (YdQQY)

26
It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.

"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."

Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?

The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods - clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia - fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence.

Philly.com

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 07:07 AM (kdS6q)

27 If it is true the affair was known bout in 2011, does this suggest there is major problem with the CIA vetting process? Or if everyone knew, except the American people, was there no threat of blackmail, therefore no issue to resign over (given Clinton and Dems in general)? If everyone that meant anything to Petraeus knew bout the affair (assumption based on Fox saying friends knew, it was open secret among them), then doesn't this point to the issue being Libya after all?

Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 07:07 AM (opS9C)

28
General Petraeus won't have to worry about a cigar, beret, or blue dress. Also, Paula isn't the looker like that other girl, Ms. Lewinsky.

Posted by: BillyBob Clinton at November 12, 2012 07:09 AM (lDWQr)

29 The NRA should give "Gun Grabby McFlap ears" a lifetime achievement award..That guy has done more for gun sales than anyone I know!

It's panic buying nationwide!

Not by me, in the words of the Obama bots.."I already gots mines..I is gonna riot!"

Charlton Heston is jealous of Mcflap ears!


Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 07:09 AM (h9Wqe)

30 24
instead of giving money to mitt romney, more money to be spent on prepping

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 12, 2012 07:05 AM (BKWpy)


What paranoid nonsense. Give your money to me.

Posted by: Zac Moffatt at November 12, 2012 07:11 AM (nt7V9)

31
Life is good, and my checks keep a comin'.

Posted by: Peggy Joseph at November 12, 2012 07:12 AM (lDWQr)

32 Day 6.

1,454 to go.

Mayan calendar notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:14 AM (XkWWK)

33 I saw Skyfall last night, and there was an inspiring patriotic streak through that film (British patriotism, but still). Too bad that kind of message is wasted on the millions of Obama voters who went to see it.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:16 AM (oxs+O)

34 Think I'm going to read up on the collapse of the Whig party and rise of the Republican party.

I've been thinking a party split may be our best strategy. Let Boehner and the Wimpocrat wing of the GOP keep the moniker Republican and rubber-stamp every perverse thought Soetero thinks.

Meanwhile, a new party decries all of it, and its hands remain unblemished by the stupidity of Washington.

When the collapse happens, the new party will be the ones people can't argue with about being right. It will be a fresh start.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 07:17 AM (IS2o0)

35 And what about the resignation of a CEO (Lockheed-Martin?) also for an adulterous affair, who was muzzled pre-election about the WARN Act?

Sheesh. At least the bastards should mix it up a little.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:18 AM (XkWWK)

36 "Meanwhile, a new party decries all of it, and its hands remain unblemished by the stupidity of Washington. And completely powerless.
"

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 07:17 AM (IS2o0)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 07:19 AM (GsoHv)

37 the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 12, 2012 07:20 AM (QupBk)

38 And completely powerless.



Like the GOP?

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 07:21 AM (nt7V9)

39
Democrat Kent Conrad, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee also
expressed optimism but suggested Congress agree on plan that would at
least give lawmakers enough time to reach a more comprehensive deal to
overhaul the entitlement program and the tax code.


"You can't settle every detail in these next few weeks,” he said on Fox. “What you can do is agree on a framework.”
Because we didn't didn't know there was a budget problem and stuff. Maybe we should form a SUPER COMMITEEEEEEE!!!!!! Yeah, that'll fix the problem....with LASER FOCUS!!!!!! Oh man, now that we know about the problem, the thought juices are REALLY flowing


Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2012 07:21 AM (z4eur)

40 33 Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:16 AM (oxs+O)


I watched "Gran Torino" again. I saw it when it first came out and although I thought it was a very good film, I didn't think it his best. But when I watched again, the metaphors and parallels to America today are absolutely dead-on. Hit me dead in the face. Wow.

Eastwood really nailed it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:21 AM (XkWWK)

41 Eastwood really nailed it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:21 AM (XkWWK)

I didn't like that movie the first time I watched it. But very time I watched afterwards it got better. I consider it one of hist best now.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:23 AM (YdQQY)

42 He should have got an AA for it but since it didn't glorify homos and blacks it was never up in the running.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:24 AM (YdQQY)

43 It is my firm belief that the Republican party is in direct collusion with the Democrat party.

The Republican party habitually caves on every important measure and refuses to fight against Democrat attacks and memes.

Take for instance the financial melt down.

The Republicans took 100% of the blame when it was in fact Clinton era policies and Democrat financial doogoodery that was the exclusive cause.

The Republicans had no hand in any of this other than taking the blame.


WE'VE BEEN HAD!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:26 AM (06lNq)

44 And that would make a good topic. What is Clint's best movie?


Man with no name?


Dirty Harry?


Gunny Sgt Highway?


Outlaw Josey Wales (my fav)


Monkey Movies?

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:27 AM (YdQQY)

45 There's a great article on RedState titled "No." that every one needs to read. Front page, get to it.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:28 AM (oxs+O)

46 Outlaw Josey Wales is great but I like High Plains Drifter the best myself.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:28 AM (a/3Pu)

47 "Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 07:19 AM (GsoHv)"

Good call. Onward to victory with John Boehner!

You should have read the rest of what I posted.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 07:29 AM (IS2o0)

48 The Good, The Bad and the Ugly.

Posted by: CanaDave at November 12, 2012 07:30 AM (dcTSg)

49 The Republicans took 100% of the blame when it was in fact Clinton era
policies and Democrat financial doogoodery that was the exclusive cause.



Actaully the CRA bull shit law was passed druing the Carter reign of terror when the commies controlled both houses and President.


It was expanded during Clinton first 2 years when once again they controlled. But the Repu8bs never rolled it back when they controlled all.


Someone may have called them "racist" and NBC would be mean to them.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:30 AM (YdQQY)

50 I just checked the price of turkey on a local sales flyer. Two brands, one @ .59 a pound, the butterball @ .99 a pound. Both require 25.00 purchase.

Both of our major grocery stores in the area have a free turkey with some 300 to 400 dollar purchase over some time period. One radio ad I heard said they were dropping the minimum amount because of power outages and stuff. People with no power had to go out to eat and stopped buying groceries for a week or two.

One thing I can never figure out is how a 20# turkey gets you about 5# of meat and a carcass and some bones that weigh about 2#. Where the hell does the rest of the weight go?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 07:31 AM (feFL6)

51 Where Eagles Dare

Machine guns..shooting...stuff blowing up...dead Nazis...shooting...machine guns...oh yeah.


And Outlaw Josey Wales.

It's not for eating, it's just for looking through.

Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2012 07:31 AM (z4eur)

52
My first thought was "fraud." Maybe states were called improperly. Maybe the machines were busted. Maybe the ugly blue scars on the electoral map pulled out fake votes like they never had before.

My second thought was that the R/R campaign did something wrong. But they didn't. They put forth a clear alternative to what should have been a hopelessly doomed Obama campaign.

The only answer is that the Free Shit Army won. They won with their numbers. They went into voting booths and did to me there what they cannot do to me in some darkened alley without stumbling over my right to fight back.

I now face the truth. The safeguards of our constitutional republic have long been lost, and we are now in the inevitable endgame of raw democracy's might-makes-right wilderness.

Progressive Era → Income Tax → New Deal → Great Society → Motor Voter → Obama.

The only way to beat the Free Shit Army is to make it so fewer of them make it to the polls.

The only card the opposition party holds is holding the debt ceiling.

Play that card now. It will be two years before these spineless one-half-of-one-third fucks face the voters again.

Play that card now. Let the different factions of the Free Shit Army fight each other to the death over what scraps are left in Obama's stash.

Play that card now. Let each member of the Free Shit Army, with the vote he cast last Tuesday still fresh in his mind, feel the sting of the world of shit that vote brought down on his own head.

Play that card now. Let Obama's face be the face picking which victim group faction of the Free Shit Army is going to be shortchanged when the eagle shits while the other factions get their full measure.

Play that card now. Make Obama their Emmanuel Goldstein.

The Free Shit Army voted to let it all burn. It's going to burn. Use their fucking asses for a firebreak.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 12, 2012 07:32 AM (ogdab)

53 @44 The "Man with no name" films were great, but Outlaw Josey Wales wins hands down.

I am no outlaw Josey Wales, I am more of a Gran Torino guy (substitute AK for Garand).."Get off my fricking Lawn!"

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 07:33 AM (h9Wqe)

54 After the election.


Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna
make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if
you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's
just the way it is.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:33 AM (YdQQY)

55 @49

Romney and Ryan time and again stated that Obama inherited a bad situation, which many interpreted as the bad situation was inherited from the Republicans.

WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GODDAMNED FINANCIAL MELTDOWN!!!

WHY THE FUCK DID WE ACCEPT ALL OF THE BLAME!!!!!


The Republicans are in direct coordiantion with the Democrats.

I no longer trust anyone who calls themselves Republican.

I would say get behind the Tea Party but the Democrats and Republicans have worked hard to poison them. A great many people now think of the Tea Party as racists and or lunatics.


I HATE EVERY GODDAMNED POLITICIAN!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:36 AM (06lNq)

56 From the annals of 'We still ain't as boned as Great Britain':

In fact, isn’t it – thanks to political correctness – one of the few crimes that everyone still takes seriously, even Guardian readers? And more than 50 rapists, who have admitted the offence, have been given cautions for it? Shouldn’t the Government have fallen?

http://tinyurl.com/cm53v22 (Daily Mail UK)

It's a discussion of hidden crime stats and unpunished crimes by Peter Hitchens, brother of the late Christopher Hitchens.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 07:36 AM (ccXZP)

57
Sitting on the porch with my morning coffee watching the sheeple drive by the Talibill compound on their way to work. It's liberating to have fully made the transition to the entitlement society.

Posted by: Talibill at November 12, 2012 07:37 AM (tdZGt)

58 Four more years!

Posted by: Cricket at November 12, 2012 07:37 AM (2ArJQ)

59
I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender. They have him pulling a wagon up in Kansas I bet.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 07:37 AM (YdQQY)

60
A pull quote from the Philly.com article above:

In the entire 28th Ward, Romney received only 34 votes to Obama's 5,920.

Although voter registration lists, which often contain outdated information, show 12 Republicans live in the ward's third division, The Inquirer was unable to find any of them by calling or visiting their homes.

Four of the registered Republicans no longer lived there; four others didn't answer their doors. City Board of Elections registration data say a registered Republican used to live at 25th and York Streets, but none of the neighbors across the street Friday knew him. Cathy Santos, 56, founder of the National Alliance of Women Veterans, had one theory: "We ran him out of town!" she said and laughed.



Oh, the fun we have.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 07:39 AM (kdS6q)

61 @50

Its a good thing that the inflation index omits the two things that are really the only true indicators of inflation:

1) Food Prices
2) Fuel Prices

So no inflation.


In the last four years my grocery bill has inflated from $50 dollars a week to almost $90 dollars a week a 45% increase.


Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:39 AM (06lNq)

62

"You can't settle every detail in these next few weeks,” he said on Fox. “What you can do is agree on a framework.”


this is exactly what they were admonishing Romney and Ryan for -- Ryan said Framework, and then we hammer out the details, work in bipartisan fashion, etc and the left's heads exploded that they weren't giving details.

I hate these mofo's more than ever. It's all a game to them. Evil liars.

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 07:40 AM (LpQbZ)

63 60 LDC,

Yeah but we're gonna kill turnout and we're the bad citizens for wanting voter ID enforced.

Guys secession already happened, don't believe the PR it happened in 2000 and we didn't leave they left us.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 07:40 AM (LRFds)

64 @ #52 -- Free Shit and race! Oh, and fraud, too.

At least I'm glad Our Conservative Betters, the elites of the party and its squishy media efforts, are not firefighters. They would not bother finding and extinguishing a fire even when there's smoke. As it is, whatever evidence that points to major election tampering and theft can be swept under the rug long before any Repub can be bothered to look for it.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 12, 2012 07:42 AM (yKUrR)

65 Well, that was a lot of bold and caps....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 07:43 AM (da5Wo)

66 The WSJ had an interesting article about Romney defeat supposing that he had money trouble from the start. So he had to make campaign appearances in states that were solid GOP, because that's where the money is, and avoid states were he had the ability to sway the vote.

Just another piece of the puzzle.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 07:43 AM (feFL6)

67

I know many of us have seen this, but Gateway Pundit published it again, so here it is:


“Ode to a Welfare State”
(1949)

Father, must I go to work?
No, my lucky son
We’re living on Easy Street
On dough from Washington

We’ve left it up to Uncle Sam,
So don’t get exercised
Nobody has to give a damn —
We’ve all been subsidized

But if Sam treats us all so well
And feeds us milk and honey
Please, daddy, tell me what the hell
He’s going to use for money

Don’t worry, bub, there’s not a hitch
In this here noble plan —
He simply soaks the filthy rich
And helps the common man

But father, won’t there come a time
When they run out of cash
And we have left them not a dime
When things will go to smash?

My faith in you is shrinking, son,
You nosy little brat;
You do too damn much thinking, son
To be a Democrat.

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 07:47 AM (LpQbZ)

68 @66

The larger puzzle is:

WHERE THE HELL DID 3 MILLION GOP VOTERS GO!!!

Voting was down overall 10% against a turnout history that indicates at minimum 7% increases every Presidential Election.

WTF IS GOING ON!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:47 AM (06lNq)

69 As long as you're buying a gun, you might as well learn to shoot it properly.

Instructional you tube video.

http://tinyurl.com/9924nyt

Posted by: Bruce at November 12, 2012 07:48 AM (z4eur)

70 WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GODDAMNED FINANCIAL MELTDOWN!!!



WHY THE FUCK DID WE ACCEPT ALL OF THE BLAME!!!!!








The goddamn financial meltdown was caused by the popping of the goddamn
housing bubble which was created by the goddamn economic "experts" in
the Bush administration in the wake of the goddamn dot com collapse.
They argued that since housing usually leads the economy out of
recession, we should jack up housing prices to avoid a recession. This
is a textbook case of confusing correlation with causation.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 07:48 AM (nt7V9)

71

While the Sandy victims pile up, not a peep from the far left media. Not a peep.

All is well, comrades. All is well.

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 07:48 AM (LpQbZ)

72 Just so it is noted, a poster named wickedpinto visited the ONT last night. Must have been all that content.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 07:49 AM (ccXZP)

73 68 General W,

Best case scenario Galt's Gulch,

worst case scenario I am behind the power curve on pondering being an illegal immigrant in some wonderful country that demands we take in Mexico.

I'm not gonna tell you which I think's more likely.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 07:49 AM (LRFds)

74 71 Beach,


Look stud Bush should personally have been forced to dig our N'walins but barky's got game a golf game.

//your friends the M$M

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 07:50 AM (LRFds)

75 Outlaw Josey Wales.

Chief Dan George more than makes up for the ick that is Sondra Locke.

Posted by: CharlieSays at November 12, 2012 07:50 AM (2aJHq)

76
Is secession back on the burner again? The election fallout is getting serious shit now.

====

I want this. Oh yes, I do.

Have spent a lot of the past week thinking just how futile this has all become. Our suicidal federal government, crazed libs that will.not.stop. and the mental capacity of people like the Bama Pho woman in Cleveland have left me with no other opinion than we need to dissolve. We're not "united" anymore anyway. Not ideologically, not culturally.

Much to my surprise, I've found out that being taken care of trumps the basic human desire for freedom and liberty. Who knew??

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2012 07:50 AM (lTVJy)

77 Outlaw Josey Wales is great but I like High Plains Drifter the best myself.
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:28 AM (a/3Pu)



Seonded.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 12, 2012 07:50 AM (mV8sg)

78 that should read "seconded".

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 12, 2012 07:51 AM (mV8sg)

79 From the secret CIA prison story on Drudge: “The challenging thing for Gen. Petraeus,” she stated, “is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press."

I'll show YOU how to "communicate," Missy!

Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 07:51 AM (96M6e)

80 Let. It. Burn.

Morning all. Kinda sucks that my bank is closed, but it's understandable. Nothing really to do today other than laundry...

Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 07:51 AM (a0nis)

81 The more I look at the Republican party, the more I can no longer blame them on the basis of stupidity/blindness. It does seem that they are in active collusion with the Dems.

To be completely ignorant of the fact that the people across the aisle are no longer "the loyal opposition" but fanatical statists & crooks who seek our destruction is stupefying.

Witness the muzzling/co-opting of a large number of Tea Party candidates from 2010. Witness the hatred of Michele Bachmann and not giving her a dime in campaign money.

It's no longer stupidity; it is collusion. If not 100% then at least 75-80%.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:52 AM (XkWWK)

82 The WSJ had an interesting article about Romney defeat supposing that he
had money trouble from the start. So he had to make campaign
appearances in states that were solid GOP, because that's where the
money is, and avoid states were he had the ability to sway the vote.


Well that explains why all his appearances were in Iowa and Virginia and Ohio, and he never set foot in Indiana. If you're high.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 07:52 AM (hO8IJ)

83 My second thought was that the R/R campaign did something wrong. But they didn't.

They did. The Obama campaign had attacks ads running in swing states for months that went largely unanswered. By the time Romney tried to define himself, it was too late.

Romney and Ryan time and again stated that Obama inherited a bad situation, which many interpreted as the bad situation was inherited from the Republicans.

WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GODDAMNED FINANCIAL MELTDOWN!!!


The problem is our politicians, being politicians, are generally more interested in power, boosts to their own ego, and basic optics than they are to ideological debates. I might be wrong, but believe it was Stu Stewart who I read was openly averse to ideology in the Romney campaign.

When you the media and academic institutions criticizing your political beliefs 24/7, you need to be able to engage in a debate about it 24/7. Any politician who either can't or isn't ready to defend himself and get into that sort of muck has no business leading the party for the near future.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 07:52 AM (jWhdv)

84 76 Lady in Black,

The Federal government is supposed to exist as empowered only if it guards the bill of rights which were the MINIMUM of liberty not maximum.

That ship has long since sailed so it is time to break up the leviathan and let the states try to be the shield.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 07:53 AM (LRFds)

85 Gnu, there was a wickedpinto sighting?!? OK, truly, either SMOD or teh Mayanz have us in the crosshairs.

And I don't mean that in the figurative, Palinesque way. I mean it in the way that we've actually been red-dotted.

Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 07:54 AM (96M6e)

86 Pale Rider.

"There's nothing quite like a good piece of hickory."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 07:55 AM (GsoHv)

87 85 Jakeman,

you shouldn't tease...

let me hope.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 07:55 AM (LRFds)

88 45 There's a great article on RedState titled "No." that every one needs to read. Front page, get to it.
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 12, 2012 07:28 AM (oxs+O)



Yea, that RedState piece is short and sweet.

Here is the actual link:

http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/12/no/


I agree.

Here's a nice excerpt:

The darndest thing is I’m listening to all this handwringing and most of it is coming from a lot of people who’ve never really been conservative or supported conservatism. These people hated our ideas and values when we were winning and now choose this opportunity to sell us out the way they’ve always wanted. The conservative herd is headed off a cliff led by a consultant class that would otherwise now be swimming in pools full of dollar bills like Scrooge McDuck.

Exactly. The same force that tried their darndest to kill the Tea Party movement from the inside.

And, the closing:

Our Republican leaders in Congress are intent now on caving on virtually every issue. Karl Rove is signaling he will play in primaries to fight against conservatives. Even some conservatives think we should give up the fight against Obamacare, set up state healthcare exchanges, and succumb.

I have no intention of giving up the fight. I have no intention of succumbing. More bluntly, I have no intention of standing athwart history yielding to the Republicans who got us to this point and you shouldn’t either.

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 07:55 AM (LpQbZ)

89 When I got the NY Times back in the Pleistocene Era, their TV section always described "High Plains Drifter" as "Low Tide Leftover" and gave it one star.

I would tend to agree. Not one of Eastwood's better efforts. Story was sound, but the direction and staging were really sub-par, considering his other great flicks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:56 AM (XkWWK)

90 Aim lower boys, the little bastards are riding rats!

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 07:56 AM (6H6FZ)

91 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:52 AM (XkWWK)

It's axiomatic that Washington DC is a corrupting influence on everyone who enters...regardless of intentions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 07:58 AM (GsoHv)

92 @70

No dickface.

The financial meltdown was caused by Clinton ere polices that forced lenders to make risky loans to people who otherwise would not be able to obtain a loan.

Because fairness.

Then the government through Freddie and Fannie may began securitizing all of the sub prime loans.

Bush tried to reform all of this bullshit but was shot down as being a big fucking meanie and hater of poor people.

All this shit was cooked up way back in 1992 by Clinton and his HUD secretary and Henry Cisneros.

YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:58 AM (06lNq)

93 If we're quoting josey wales today, i thought i would have to post something.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 12, 2012 07:59 AM (zZJJp)

94 From John Boehner's FB page on Friday:

"Raising tax rates, as some have proposed, will
slow down our economy, hurt small businesses and destroy more than
700,000 jobs. Instead of going over the "fiscal cliff," let's focus
together on pro-growth tax entitlement reform to build a stronger,
healthier economy."

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2012 08:00 AM (lTVJy)

95 To make matters worse, we still suffer for every line of Democratic attack in the past that we didn't counteract. All those attacks against Romney? Their now in voters minds until 1.) they're rebutted or 2.) eternity---just as the financial crisis is still all our fault, because we never mentioned Frank's, Dodd's, or Clinton's role in it.

As much as I've been negative on Gringrich forever I'm coming around to wanting to use him more often (as long as he stays firmly out of power) in some way just due to the fact he's willing and able to engage in these fights. As much as everybody now hates him, Christie is still useful for this same reason.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:00 AM (jWhdv)

96 Moar from the annals of the Great Boned Britain:

A Special Forces hero jailed for keeping a gun as a war trophy has been ‘betrayed’ by the Army, his wife said yesterday.

Sergeant Danny Nightingale, a crack SAS sniper with 17 years of service, was sentenced to 18 months in military detention after admitting illegally owning a 9mm Glock pistol.

The weapon was a gift from a group of Iraqis he helped train in 2007.


http://tinyurl.com/ad6lu2r (Daily Mail)

He should have raped someone instead. (see my post #56)

Oh, and my vote is for Josey Wales.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 08:01 AM (ccXZP)

97 @92

Preach it!

If people only knew...

Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 08:01 AM (a0nis)

98 Good news, everybody! A shit-ton of welfare spending coming up.
http://is.gd/ePl64U

“It really will have a profound influence on decisions that get made
about transferring the farm from one generation to the next,” said Trudy
Wastweet, national policy adviser with the Iowa Farm Bureau Federation.
“That is something that keeps Iowa farmers up at night wondering what
the tax code will be.”


Meh. That's what they get for hiring foreign nationals who voted for SCOAMF.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 08:01 AM (hO8IJ)

99 83 Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 07:52 AM (jWhdv)

It's not that I think the R/R campaign did anything wrong per se, but I don't think they could have done anything more than they did, vis a vis messaging.

SCOMAF's character assassination ads worked because a majority of the population was receptive to them. It registered with them because of decades of leftist indoctrination in the schools, reinforced by the media and the MFM.

Can conservatism or even a moderate's message (whatever the hell THAT would be?!) ever again have a receptive audience when a majority of people now see it not as an alternative world view, but simply evil?

That is the problem we face and I think it is now virtually impossible to conquer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:01 AM (XkWWK)

100 They did. The Obama campaign had attacks ads running in swing states for months that went largely unanswered. By the time Romney tried to define himself, it was too late.

I live in Virginia. I heard those ads. I've been neck-deep in a work project since the beginning of August. As soon as the weather cooled, I started spending weekends cleaning a detached garage that probably hadn't been cleaned since it was built nearly thirty years ago.

These attack ads came on the radio several times an hour. At first, they boiled my blood. As I listened to them, I settled into ridiculing them in my mind because that was all that the piece of shit had to run on.

The ads were about birth control, the 47%, and sticking it to the rich. That was all. It was not even slightly veiled.

The ads worked. The ads should not have worked, but the ads worked. Fuck the fucking fuckers. Their plan is to fleece the working man. Invalidate that plan, and set them to tearing out each other's throats.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 12, 2012 08:02 AM (ogdab)

101 "worst case scenario I am behind the power curve on pondering being an illegal immigrant in some wonderful country that demands we take in Mexico."

Seasteading, bitches. It's the future!

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:02 AM (jWhdv)

102 The goddamn financial meltdown was caused by the popping of the goddamn
housing bubble which was created by the goddamn economic "experts" in

the Bush administration in the wake of the goddamn dot com collapse.



They argued that since housing usually leads the economy out of

recession, we should jack up housing prices to avoid a recession




The financial meltdown/housing bubble was created by CRA and years of low interest rates. In addition stupid "green space" laws in States like CA. Read Thomas Sowell's book.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:02 AM (YdQQY)

103 Witness the muzzling/co-opting of a large number of Tea Party candidates from 2010. Witness the hatred of Michele Bachmann and not giving her a dime in campaign money.

It's no longer stupidity; it is collusion. If not 100% then at least 75-80%.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 07:52 AM (XkWWK)



Agree.

People attack me when I say 3rd party, but I've been in that camp for a long time. If only it had happened 4 years ago, now. We have to suffer through 4 more years of sh*tbrain. We had 8 years to ramp up a 3rd party. The opposition would be brutal -- like what was done to the Tea Party folks; but I think it would be worth the sweat and blood.

I had given the example of the new prime minister of Canada, Steven Harper. I do not know all the details, but he was once in a "conservative party" and could not get elected, then merged with another more/less extreme (not sure) right party, then hammered and smoothed out the platform, and voilia! he became leader of the north.

It takes time. But, it can be done.

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:02 AM (LpQbZ)

104 Well that explains why all his appearances were in Iowa and Virginia and Ohio, and he never set foot in Indiana. If you're high.

I can't find online but here's the pull quote, the background being that he got decimated by the long primary, and was out of cash. While Obama engaged in early vilification with a flood of advertising dollars...his early effort was the necessity to raise cash...

''It meant visits to places like California, Texas, and New York -- none of which were important political battlegrounds -- while only allowing for short side trips to swing states...''

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 08:03 AM (feFL6)

105 @70

No dickface.

The financial meltdown was caused by Clinton ere polices that forced lenders to make risky loans to people who otherwise would not be able to obtain a loan.

[ ... ]

YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:58 AM (06lNq)




Seonded! I would have emboldened the "IDIOT" part, though.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:03 AM (X3lox)

106 94 Lady in Black,

Yeah well I don't think John is just gonna roll.

Instead of throwing the entire GOP under the bus let's watch what the hell they do first.

Ogabe is about to have reality frag him under the water in the deep end of the pool.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:03 AM (LRFds)

107 They argued that since housing usually leads the economy out of

recession, we should jack up housing prices to avoid a recession.

----

Ridiculous! But thanks for the laugh.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2012 08:04 AM (lTVJy)

108 Anybody post this yet?

http://tinyurl.com/awq5fwl

Liberal Daily Kos diarist calls for 'benevolent' Obama dictatorship.

LMAO. Kinda surprised it took them this long.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 12, 2012 08:04 AM (tLbhw)

109 The financial meltdown was caused by Clinton ere polices that forced
lenders to make risky loans to people who otherwise would not be able to
obtain a loan.



That was a very small part of it.


Bush tried to reform all of this bullshit but was shot down as being a big fucking meanie and hater of poor people.


Citation needed. I remember Bush constantly bragging that home "ownership" was at some ridiculously high level. And he was the one who appointed Butthead Bernanke.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:05 AM (nt7V9)

110 103 beach,

3d party guarantees the donks go even more radical but okay...it's always a great idea to keep turning our caucus against each other more and more...

brilliant fucking operational and strategic thinking GOP.

screw it legalize the mexicans tomorrow.....why not??

Not like we give two shits about winning and it'll make secession legal.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:05 AM (LRFds)

111

CREEPIN'
Eric Church

country music is changing, sounds less country

now Carrie Underwood is playing

this is country?

Posted by: soothie at November 12, 2012 08:05 AM (ms+kz)

112 Liberal Daily Kos diarist calls for 'benevolent' Obama dictatorship.

I guess it didn't used to smoke cloves.

We already have one, and it's not benevolent.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 08:06 AM (hO8IJ)

113 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (5DR1j)

114 Kristol's one major contribution to American policy debate was declaring with the utmost dogmatic condescension that Iraqis were not religious, and that religion was not a possible problem in the prospective invasion and occupation of Iraq. He had inside sources that could not be mistaken on this matter, you see.

Tens of thousands of corpses and mutilated bodies later...

Kristol is a liar, who will lie pompously on matters of the gravest importance, where lying is least forgivable. Everything that comes from his name or near it is not to be trusted.

I don't know of any topic where he is a reliable conservative. There may be one, but I would not count on it. He is simply a warmonger, who has obtained influence over the right.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (NH/xU)

115 Someone actually did cut and paste a longer version...

''Back in spring, the Romney campaign's biggest worry was money. So the
campaign's finance chair, Spencer Zwick, huddled with political director
Rich Beeson to craft a complex schedule that took Mr. Romney to the
cities that were prime real estate for fundraising.



It meant visits to places like California, Texas and New York—none of
which were important political battlegrounds—while only allowing for
quick side trips to swing states that Mr. Romney would need to win to
become president.



On one level the strategy worked: Mr. Romney ultimately garnered some
$800 million or more, putting him in close competition with Mr. Obama's
robust fundraising effort.



But Mr. Romney paid a deep political price. The fundraising marathon
reduced his ability to deliver his own message to voters just as the
Obama campaign was stepping in to define the Republican candidate on its
terms. Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his
ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to
moderate and independent donors.''

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (feFL6)

116 @108

If they want a dictatorship, they should move to Zimbabwe and leave us alone.

Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (a0nis)

117 Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 07:55 AM (LpQbZ)



Oh no, no, no, no. We're supposed to "Let It Burn." Fighting it is just useless. We should run and hide.


/extreme sarc

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (da5Wo)

118 "Can conservatism or even a moderate's message (whatever the hell THAT would be?!) ever again have a receptive audience when a majority of people now see it not as an alternative world view, but simply evil?"

It definitely can't if no one even bothers to make it.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (jWhdv)

119 Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 07:48 AM (nt7V9)


You are very aptly named, sir/madam.

The economic collapse of 2008 was caused by DEMOCRAT party policies dating back to the Carter administration, to wit, the Community Reinvestment act that forced banks to lend to people who could never repay in the interest of "fairness."

Under Clinton, Jamie Gorelick, Janet Reno and Andrew Cuomo put the act into serious high gear and threatened banks with investigation/prosecution for not complying.

Fannie and Freddie, really criminal rackets run by Barney Frank and company, defrauded us all up until the very last minute.

To the extent that banks, Wall Street and insurance companies are at fault, they were the ones that created the mortgage backed security to indemnify themselves, believing (or deluding themselves) that the Fed would bail them out when it all collapsed.

Instead, the Dems blamed the banks for causing the collapse which they themselves instituted 35 years ago.

GOVERNMENT IS TO BLAME.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)

120 95 AD,

The party only needs one chubby regional lunatic for flamethrower....

I'll go with Newt if I wanted to watch Obama get a blowjob I can turn on th evening news no need for the GOP to aid.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (LRFds)

121 Israel and Syria exchanging gunfire, US intel community in an uproar and disfunctional, US Defense contractors going in the shitter, Deficit out of sight and growing, US Business about to be regulated out of business, and the NY Jets suck the big one. Morning All. It's morning in America? Oh G-D save us

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (79ueO)

122 country music is changing, sounds less country


Tweets from 1991. Although it really hasn't been "country" since I was in diapers.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (hO8IJ)

123 Citation needed. I remember Bush constantly bragging
that home "ownership" was at some ridiculously high level. And he was
the one who appointed Butthead Bernanke.


Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:05 AM (nt7V9)


There is a u-tube video out there of both Bush and McCain sounding the warning on Fannie and Freddie and the housing market. With an attack by Bwarney Fwank and Piss Dodd saying there was no problem.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (YdQQY)

124 the problem was bush. he soiled the small gov. brand and made it too hard for current repubs to convince the public that we really are for balanced budgets, low deficits, less regulation and such. also he created a generation of political consultants that think the key to electoral success is coopting socialist ideas from the dems and making them only 3/4 socialist (nclb, amnesty, part D)

Romney is a good man, but he needed to talk like Reagan. ("Gov is not the solution ....") If there was ever a time for hard line small gov. ideas, this was it.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (zZJJp)

125 The financial meltdown/housing bubble was created by CRA and years of low interest rates.


But mostly years of low interest rates. Set by Bush appointee Bernanke. To prop up the stock market.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (nt7V9)

126 content free just like the news!!!! yeah!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (Ho2rs)

127 Good Morning-

Bill Kristol claims to be a conservative but he is not. He may have a few leanings, but he's a moderate, which is why he was screaming for Crispy Cream to run for POTUS this year.

Vic, We can always count on your senator to betray us. Once in a while Graham will be surprisingly strong, on national security issues.

I am not one to talk about senators, I live in MA. I believe Brown would have won if he did not cross party lines. We are becoming more partisan, not less.Local conservative radio show had many calls when Brown crossed over aisle, Dodd-Frank bill and a few others upset the few conservatives here. There are more in MA that known, but the dems win every election here.

Did Graham agree with McCain that we should have gotten involved in Libya?

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (z4WKX)

128 "That was a very small part of it."

If you want a citation, I think another one is in order...

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (jWhdv)

129 Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 07:48 AM (nt7V9)

I hope you realize by now that you have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (GsoHv)

130 117 BC1981,

Um you ever ponder the Let it burn crowd and go to ground is because a lot of us who went all in trying to stop President Evil see that our caucus is not a herd of cats so much as a herd of jackalope?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (LRFds)

131 All this shit was cooked up way back in 1992 by Clinton and his HUD secretary and Henry Cisneros.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 07:58 AM (06lNq)


What stood out to me was the bullying the banks had to endure if they tried to hold to financial sanity. If they did not hand out mortgages like candy, whether the customer was not qualified or not, it didn't matter. They were crucified -- with threats and physical protests outside their bank.

Yes, it was the left. They created the crisis. Just as the SCoaMF is crippling the country again, with NOcare.

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:10 AM (LpQbZ)

132 Where the hell does the rest of the weight go?

Aliens.

plus

Paint Your Wagon for shits and giggles although the FBI apparently didn't find it funny.

Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 08:10 AM (MOWP1)

133 Mitt Romney believed that money was supremely important. Do what you have to, but do not be outspent.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 08:10 AM (NH/xU)

134 It looks like Yahoo picked up the entire article which first appeared in the WSJ...

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-race-slipped-away-from-romney.html

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 08:10 AM (feFL6)

135 99 JJS,

Along the line you are arguing, here's some support:

http://pjmedia.com/blog/it%E2%80%99s-not-the-economy-stupid/

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (ccXZP)

136 You are not Obama's bitch until you bend over.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (6H6FZ)

137 @109

Here you go dickface

http://tinyurl.com/dbo9ss

Do a search for "bush reform fannie mae"

Most search engines will auto complete that for you by the way.

Do you know why numb nuts?

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (06lNq)

138 125 Schizoid,

which is why Bukakke was fired and the stock market is now lower unless you fucking trojan horse populist lib moles need to brag that everything is okay even with 23 million unemployed b/c look Helicopter ben and choom saved wall street....

let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (LRFds)

139 Did Graham agree with McCain that we should have gotten involved in Libya?

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2012 08:09 AM (z4WKX)

Yes, and they are both calling for us to get involved in damn Syria now.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (YdQQY)

140 Good morning, ‘rons and ‘ronettes. Hope you had as good of a weekend as you could, considering. I hope you’ll forgive me, but I’m going to pull back for a while; the reelection of TFG has just sickened me so much that I want to keep away from current events for the rest of the year. I’ll still provide a new story during the week, but other than that, I’m going to keep a pretty low profile here at the HQ except on the morning thread.

So here’s a Red Skelton story, from Hollywood columnist James Bacon’s book, Hollywood Is A Four-Letter Town:

‘Red once got very much interested in photography. He soon owned every kind of camera and piece of equipment on the market. . .one night her called me up to his house, which was high atop a hill in Bel-Air, and we went up to his bedroom. Red showed me a projection machine with a powerful telephoto lens and said,
“Look down there on Sunset Boulevard. See that house on the curb with the white garage door? You see it?’

‘I saw it all right, but I was not prepared for what use Skelton would make of it. He took out a stag reel. I still remember the title – [b[The Little Sister. It was one of those filthy reels where the wife’s gorgeous little sister comes to visit. The wife leaves the sister with the husband to get better acquainted. Well, in a matter of seconds, they are well acquainted indeed – both nude and doing all the oral sex acts people do in stag reels.

‘Red had focused this reel on the white garage door on Sunset Boulvard. You could hear the brakes screeching all the way up the hill. Can you imagine driving down a busy street and seeing a girl going down on a guy on a garage door?

‘Showing this reel became a popular pastime of Red’s until the cops traced the light beams. Red got off with a warning, but the curve forever after has been called Dead Man’s Curve.’


Now here’s a Jackie Gleason story:

The Great One always lived the high life. Even doing the TV role that first made him famous – that of Chester Riley in The Life of Riley – he barely made $300 a week, but spent money like water. Now, this was around 1948-1949, and each evening, after shooting was complete, Gleason and friends would head over to the Villa Capri* for a party.

Gleason would always sign for the bill. After he’d finished shooting the first 13 episodes of Riley, he returned to NY, leaving behind nearly $5,000 in tabs. The Villa’s owner, Patsy D’Amore, was an old friend of Gleason’s from Brooklyn, so he only shook his head when people berated him for letting Gleason walk out on his bill. “He’ll pay some day,” D’Amore insisted.

A few years went by. Riley was over, but through the strength of The Honeymooners, Gleason was able to sign an eight-million dollar contract with CBS. Closing up a season’s shooting in NY, he returned to Hollywood and the Villa with a few friends. After an evening of spaghetti and Soave Bertani, the tab came to fifty bucks. D’Amore presented the check without mentioning the other tab.

Gleason didn’t say a word, either. Glancing at the bill, he pulled out his checkbook. Writing a check, he folded it in two and placed it in D’Amore’s hand, then gathered up his friends and headed out. When he got to the door, he looked back.

Patsy nodded and unfolded the check, which was made out for $6,000.

He met Gleason’s eyes and The Great One smiled. “I’m a big tipper, pal.”

Hope you all have a wonderful day.

*Which will figure in tomorrow’s story. Stay tuned. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (zF6Iw)

141 GOVERNMENT IS TO BLAME.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)

Don't forget Spitzer pushing Greenberg out of AIG. they never would have backed all that trash if he was still at the helm. Them backing the crap helped create the market which got all the banks in trouble.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (zZJJp)

142
Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his
ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to
moderate and independent donors.''






Yep, that's exactly how I remember the Romney campaign. Anchored to the hard right like a limpet.

Of course, that could be due to the metal plate in my skull.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (kdS6q)

143 The only answer is that the Free Shit Army won.

This. we cannot overcome this.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 12, 2012 08:12 AM (HNwOT)

144 I think Obama is misplaying this Petraus affair.

Doesn't he realize that if Petraus gets divorced and decided to marry his mistress that they could register with Organizing for America to have all the wedding guest make a donation in their name?

I mean, that is what is important to this President, right?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 12, 2012 08:12 AM (OWjjx)

145 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 07:29 AM (IS2o0)

I did read your entire comment.

My point is that a third party will take decades to penetrate the circles of power in DC.

This isn't the Whigs morphing into the Republicans. There is far more power entrenched in DC, and they will suppress any third party with the force of both the Republicans and the Democrats.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:13 AM (GsoHv)

146 103 Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:02 AM (LpQbZ)


Well, we have nothing necessarily to lose now with a third party. But I believe we need to use our energies to take the Republican Party back by political force. A third party just splits our vote, unless and until we can marginalize the Republicans to such an extent that their presence on a national ballot would be negligible. That said, Gary Johnson and the Libertarians took a substantial number of votes away from Romney. Did they make a difference?

Ask Carter about John Anderson, GHW Bush about Ross Perot, and perhaps Gore about Nader.

See what I mean. Must oust the damned dirty stinking Quislings in our own party. NOW.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:13 AM (XkWWK)

147 122 Heather Radish,

Play country music backwards and you get back the USA's guns, national prestige, national identity, and world esteem....

tweets from 2017

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:13 AM (LRFds)

148 Start! Whining time!


So. I walk into work this morning to discover that a deal is blowing up over an issue I brought up repeatedly at the beginning of last week. At that time, I was pretty much told by everyone else involved not to worry my pretty little head over it. Guess who was right, bitches? Honestly, my first response is I told you this would happen, you fix it, not me.


My mood is not improved by the fact that my cold is proceeding nicely while me not so much.


*stompys everyone*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (VtjlW)

149 "138 125 Schizoid,

which is why Bukakke was fired and the stock market is now lower unless you fucking trojan horse populist lib moles need to brag that everything is okay even with 23 million unemployed b/c look Helicopter ben and choom saved wall street....

let it burn"


It's also why interest rates went back up. Oh wait...

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (jWhdv)

150 Under Clinton, Jamie Gorelick, Janet Reno and Andrew
Cuomo put the act into serious high gear and threatened banks with
investigation/prosecution for not complying.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (XkWWK)



Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)

151 149 AD,

exactly....Helicopter Ben is a Bush stooge except he probably single handidly voted Ogabe back in office for the low low price of a few trillion bucks in funny money.

I'm done let it burn I can survive better than free shit army.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:15 AM (LRFds)

152 Reviionists at it again.


How many times do we need to say we lost because a shit ton of Republicans sat at home.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:16 AM (YdQQY)

153 So Romney ran out of money getting the rest of the primary competition demonized and couldn't respond to Obama's attack ads? Sounds like horeshit excuse-making faggotry by losers to me but if its true it's pretty goddam funny. He fucked everyone else so hard that he fucked himself too. Nice.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 08:16 AM (6H6FZ)

154 150 Schizoid,

um dumbass he tried over and over....the CBC and Media painted him as a monster for even suggesting it....

Yup Busjh was an asshole son and he is to blame for the downturn of glorious Clinton era to this day....


some dumbass Mexican American democrat in 2177

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (LRFds)

155 You know I am getting damned tired of people on this blog being able to refute democrat lies and attacks and defend Republicans

BETTER THAN OUR OWN POLITICIANS CAN!!!!


I mean they do have a staff right?

They have access to all of the same shit us commoners do?

Do we not have an war room where they do this kind of strategy and push back?


WTF!!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (06lNq)

156 Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:08 AM (nt7V9)


Since everyone else is already making the arguments which just highlight your ignorance, I'll just chime in with:

STFU, idiot.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (8y9MW)

157 Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?


Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)

Because he never had 60 votes in the Senate.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)

158 The financial meltdown/housing bubble was created by CRA and years of low interest rates.

It was NOT the low interest rates. It was the intentional perversion of debt valuations by the feral government that caused the credit crisis. Low interest rates are their own problem but not THE problem that caused the credit crisis. Low interest rates didn't make Fannie and Freddie buy up all the perverted debt - all the shit paper - slap a feral govenrment imprimatur on them (an implicit guarantee that EVERYONE understood and assumed) and turn crap debt into AAA thanks to said guarantee.

You cannot prevert one section of the debt market (the largest and most important market in our financial system) and not expect that perversion to be arbbed througout the system and eating away at its very foundations. Low interest rates don't help unqualified loan recipients to get loans at bullshit rates on par with people who actually qualify. Low interest rates have nothing to do with NINJA loans.

Low interest rates are a problem but they are not the problem that caused the credit crisis which was brought on by defaults. In fact, defaults are less likely for low interest rates and even with defaults if there were decent downpayments then there would have been a cushion to stop the implosion. It was the shit paper that was forced to be originated and forced to be supercharged by Fannie and Freddie running around scooping up every piece of shit paper in sight, thereby freeing originators to make more shit paper as they were forced to by feral government policy - democrat policy.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (X3lox)

159 152 Vic,

yeah well no the massive Bill Kristol and "Bush did an awesome job defendingt eh GOP thanks to Rover the great's advice" caucus was stabbed int eh back by the small self identified conservative special interest.

Like i said in my rage earlier this last six days Vic....the GOP's gotten their last dime from me.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:18 AM (LRFds)

160 creepin is one of my favorite songs....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 08:18 AM (Ho2rs)

161
It's Not the Economy, Stupid
It’s racial politics. And you don’t beat them by adopting them.



By Mary Grabar, PJMedia, November 10, 2012

http://tinyurl.com/bez2jmn


For the Left, it took “systematic persistent organizing and education,” as Howard Zinn advised back in 1969.

Are Republicans willing to do the same thing?
**
She makes her point. And the answer to her question is "No."


Republicans willingly swallow propaganda of their own taste every bit as foolishly as Democrats swallow swill.



Joe the Plumber Republicans have been shanked by the GOP.



Whatever "it" is per election, Republican Leadership willingly play the Democrat's bitch as are those who persist in voting for THAT leadership from power-mongers. The Republican Leadership coalition is NOT with the American taxpayer citizens voting Republican. The Republican Leadership act on their own selfish behalf for their own corrupt enrichment. They have insulated themselves from grassroots.



Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan's first administration would never tolerate GOP Leadership persistently abusing Republican voters. 2012 GOP Convention proved the big tent is a whore house for the gullible, every bit as rotten as the Democrat Party.



The big tent GOP went so far as to disenfranchise the conservative activists who willingly do the same “systematic persistent organizing and education” of Americans only on behalf of Constitutional Governance rather than promoting authoritarianism.


I turned off the tube election night while the "moderators" sang their chorus: The Democrats have the big tent now.


COALITION

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 12, 2012 08:19 AM (BAnPT)

162 @150

I swear to god you are one dumb fuck.

http://tinyurl.com/crj8b9n

And he didn't reverse the policy BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FUCKING DICTATOR ASSHOLE!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:19 AM (06lNq)

163 157
Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?




Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)

Because he never had 60 votes in the Senate.


Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:17 AM (YdQQY)


Neither did Clinton, who somehow created the policy.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:19 AM (nt7V9)

164 Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)


Because nothing could even get out of committee, you retard. Bush and the GOP should have tried harder but they were NOT the ones who put every fiber of their being into preserving the pervsion of debt. That was the Dems and they fought for it every inch, along with their standard smearing in public of anyone who tried to challenge them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:19 AM (X3lox)

165 Yes, and they are both calling for us to get involved in damn Syria now.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (YdQQY)

What could possibly go wrong?

Syria is shooting into Israel to distract attention from their internal conflict. Eventually Israel will respond aggressively, and then maybe Obama will invade...Israel?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:20 AM (GsoHv)

166 158 TPOP,

I did a massive number of posts back in '08 about the willful risk laundering of portfolio risk by the GREs...

I am not wasting my time pointing it out again....not for a GOP that wants to cut in front of Chris Matthew's in the congratulations Obama line with new Jay Z kneepads.


Have fun GOP.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:20 AM (LRFds)

167 schizoid

"ok, let's say this is true".....well it is true so deal with it.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 08:20 AM (Ho2rs)

168 In the words of Clint.."Get 3 coffins ready"

"I'm sorry, I meant 4 coffins"

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 08:20 AM (h9Wqe)

169 163 Schizoid Trojan Man,

Yeah well if you think there is one rulebook in Washington DC you're enough of a tard you must be a union Republican....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:21 AM (LRFds)

170 Low interest rates are a problem but they are not the problem that caused the credit crisis which was brought on by defaults.


The low interest rates created the "boom". CRA also created the boom and the low interest rates allowed the banks to implement CRA. That was the "boom".


When the fed finally started raising the rates the banks were not able to churn the defaulted loans and were forced to start eating them. That was the "bust".

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:21 AM (YdQQY)

171 Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?
Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:14 AM (nt7V9)
===


so dense
it's astonishing
do you even read the responses?

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:21 AM (LpQbZ)

172
More from that WSJ handout from the Republican Party Congregatio ds Propaganda:

The campaign also never figured out how to get beyond a damaging policy position from the primary season, a tough line on overhauling immigration laws. Mr. Romney refused to embrace legislation that might give some illegal immigrants long in the U.S. a path to citizenship, and instead advocated what he called "self-deportation."

Struggling to win the primary, the campaign's political team decided Mr. Romney needed to draw a contrast on the immigration issue to differentiate himself from the other Republicans on stage. The candidate's hard-line stance alienated Hispanic voters, which would prove a critical failing in the fall general election.




Yep. The amnesty deal is done. Now comes the selling.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 08:23 AM (kdS6q)

173 A strong case can be made that the 2008 crash was due to the 2000 tech bubble, which had not been allowed to find its own level, but instead a housing bubble was created to replace it.

Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 08:24 AM (opS9C)

174 ''Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room''

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 12, 2012 08:24 AM (feFL6)

175

Wow.


Canada Seeks US Workers Left High & Dry By Obama

Canadian employers are swarming U.S. job fairs, advertising on radio and YouTube and using headhunters to lure out-of-work Americans north. California, with its 10.2% unemployment rate, has become a prime target. Canadian recruiters are headed to a job fair in the Coachella Valley next month to woo construction workers idled by the housing meltdown.



gatewaypundit.com

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:24 AM (LpQbZ)

176 148 AlexTehChick,

Hey wait a sec Alex are you really Paul Ryan?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:24 AM (LRFds)

177 148 atc,

Now now now. Quit worrying your pretty little head.

You'll get all upset.

OTBS, the adrenaline release will help clear your sinuses.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 08:24 AM (ccXZP)

178 The bubbles and crashes come every 70-80 years. This wasn't just due to the CRA.

Posted by: Baldy at November 12, 2012 08:25 AM (opS9C)

179 NATO Deputy Secretary General addressed Washington Brass in August warning that SYRIA IS NOT LIBYA: Any military action taken against Syria will do more harm than good.

Read the account in The Air Force Magazine, October 2012 issue.

Posted by: panzernashorn at November 12, 2012 08:25 AM (BAnPT)

180 Neither did Clinton, who somehow created the policy.


Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:19 AM (nt7V9)

Clinton did not "create" the policy. Carter and his congress did and yes, they had 60 votes.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:26 AM (YdQQY)

181 Morning all,

I didn't comment as I read the comments because typing and posting on an iPad is s l o w! But now would like to add my two cents before I am off to work.

GnuBreed - thanks for the list of positives.

JJ - still counting days! Ouch! I'm trying to heal.

I haven't watched Gran Torino but heard it described as the best family movie you would never take your family to watch. On your recommendations I may watch it.

Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 08:26 AM (nxN0L)

182 172 LDC,

They pass blanket amnesty watering down my legal vote as a US citizen to the point I am doomed to die nothing more than the third world's direct piggy bank I encourage each of you to take the time to write a letter telling your GOP rep to decide if they are staying in the Potamac swamp or coming home in 2 years but you better start looking for a fucking house.

I will.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:26 AM (LRFds)

183 When the fed finally started raising the rates the banks were not able to churn the defaulted loans and were forced to start eating them. That was the "bust".

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:21 AM (YdQQY)


There are booms and busts all the time. They don't threaten the whole financial system. That threat was because of the types of loans that were originated, not the interest rates. Those types of loans were originated because Washington demanded them (CRA and death to red-lining) and because Fannie and Freddie were put to use to supercharge their creation.

The severity of the credit crisis had nothing to do with low interest rates. We have even lower interest rates now and you can't even sell a house.

Low interest rates were their own problem but they most defiitely were NOT the cause of the credit crisis. Shit paper was the cause of the credit crisis and shit paper is shit no matter what effective yield it starts out with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (X3lox)

184 the word 'threadbare' keep popping into my head...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (SO2Q8)

185 Ok, here's what I've learned here so far:

The CRA passed during the Carter administration, but it wasn't enforced.

Clinton decided to enforce it.

That singlehandedly created the housing bubble.

Bush really really wanted to stop it, but for some reason, it never occurred to him that he could just refuse to enforce it like the presidents before Clinton did.



Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (nt7V9)

186 @150


2001

April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares
that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,”
because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong
repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities
and economic activity.”





That was one of the first fucking things he wanted to do when he took office
fuck head.


I HATE THESE FUCKING IDIOT!

I HATE MY OWN PARTY!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (06lNq)

187 "Do we not have an war room where they do this kind of strategy and push back?"

Nope. Next question

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (jWhdv)

188 "My point is that a third party will take decades to penetrate the circles of power in DC. "

In the current political landscape, that is true.

After a massive economic collapse? That's a whole new political landscape.

If the GOP rubber stamps everything, nobody is going to believe they can govern better.

If they resist, they will be the scapegoats.

So, cut them loose.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (u5ozF)

189 On a side note to all of the interest rate talk, is the fact that it's damn near impossible to retire in an era of very low rates. My parents in law retired at the height of rates in the 1980s, and lived in grand style without much effort.

Anyone who retired in the late 2000s, or is planning to in the next 2 decades, is going to have tough sledding. To me, that's one of the reasons -- combined with the fact that people have forgotten how to scrimp and save -- why SS is such a monster piece of leverage.

As a GenXer, I've always known we were boned, never expected SS to be there for me, and planned accordingly. But only now, as I'm in my mid-40s, do I fully comprehend the full scale of the bonitude.

Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (96M6e)

190 High Plains Drifter
It had rape
Painting a town red
A woman who pretended she didn't want it
A very little guy with a very big gun
Gunfights
Rape

You said rape twice

I like rape

Posted by: Sick Frick at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (JCIjD)

191 Syria is shooting into Israel to distract attention from their internal conflict. Eventually Israel will respond aggressively, and then maybe Obama will invade...Israel?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:20 AM (GsoHv)

No but he will give his bestest pal in Turkey the green light to invade Syria

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (79ueO)

192 Gran Torino

Unforgiven

Let It Burn (in production)

Posted by: Minesweeper at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (sMt7r)

193 135 http://pjmedia.com/blog/it%E2%80%99s-not-the-economy-stupid/
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (ccXZP)


Wow. Just wow. I think not only did I throw up in my mouth a little but that I'm choking on it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (XkWWK)

194 @185

You must be a Progressive cum guzzler and Marxist because the whole BUSH IS NOT A DICTATOR thing went right over your head.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:29 AM (06lNq)

195
Just one more pull from the WSJ article:

Mr. Romney had spent so much money winning the nomination that he was low on cash; aides, seeing the problem taking shape, had once considered accepting federal financing for the campaign rather than rely on private donations.




So Team Romney actually considered using the incredible successful Mccain 2008 financing strategy?

Why, dandy -- just dandy.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 12, 2012 08:29 AM (kdS6q)

196 185 Schizoid,

Yeah hey you know what I just learned....

being a locust assed racial politics shitstirring lawyer who sued to try to force the banks to adhere or face penury during the clinton years and Bush years spreading magic acorns to have doom grow gets you 2 terms in power instead of 2 concurrent sentences in the clink....

I am gonna get my JD and make that the only major case set I ever sign on to.

Donks are blameless and should be the ones to steward a free market.

You win, I quit.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:30 AM (LRFds)

197 181 Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 08:26 AM (nxN0L)

It just so utterly mirrors America as a whole. And how ironic that it's Eastwood, the man who delivered the lecture to the Empty Chair?

Dark days ahead.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:30 AM (XkWWK)

198 Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:26 AM (YdQQY)

Remember arguing with your kids...when they were in 1st grade? This is the same thing.

He wants his own facts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:30 AM (GsoHv)

199

For those that haven't read it, in regards to how to overcome the left -- in every facet of society -- gatewaypundit.com had this the other day, which had a lot of nice ideas; offered by one of the readers:

Ronald Reagan Never Surrendered in the War For Freedom – Even in Defeat

e.g.

4. Partisan TV – Fox is derided as Faux News but is really closer to the middle than the other channels. The intent isn’t to abandon Fox but to augment it and have Democrats attack the partisan TV channel while they describe Fox as the more sober alternative. I don’t know anyone at Charter Communications but MSNBC would be an ideal partisan vehicle if they aired 50% Rachel Maddow’s and 50% Glenn Beck’s. Besides, Fox News as a Conservative-leaning station may not last much beyond Murdoch’s death and Roger Ailes’ retirement; let’s not risk it.

(I hadn't really thought of MSNBC existing solely to make NBC look "moderate.") But, it does just that, while it feeds just the far left haters/base.



http://tinyurl.com/arzyfas

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:31 AM (LpQbZ)

200 do you even read the responses?

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:21 AM (LpQbZ)

Yes I do, but they don't make any sense. Blaming the 2008 meltdown on Carter is as dumb as the liberals blaming it on Reagan.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:31 AM (nt7V9)

201 The goddamn financial meltdown was caused by the popping of the goddamn

And the Investment banks going public so it wasn't the partners asses on the line.
And everyone buying more house than they could afford because prices were only going up.
And yet another system (finance) taken over by the middlemen (traders) and being run for their benefit.
And people just not getting that a lot of things don't break linearly.

It's "Seconds from Disaster" and we're all tee'd up for another go round.

Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 08:31 AM (MOWP1)

202 If we sit around and argue with imbeciles about how many times Barney Frank fucked George Bush so he could make his boyfriend richer we can lose the next election too.

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 12, 2012 08:31 AM (6H6FZ)

203 Don't raise the debt limit unless the individual mandate is repealed.

Posted by: edj at November 12, 2012 08:32 AM (+QKfp)

204 Don't raise the debt limit unless the individual mandate is repealed.
Posted by: edj at November 12, 2012 08:32 AM (+QKfp)


yeah and the Chicago Cubs will be in the world series next year

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:34 AM (79ueO)

205 "203 Don't raise the debt limit unless the individual mandate is repealed."


Wouldn't that be nice?

Unfortunately Invertebrates can't just grow spines.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 12, 2012 08:34 AM (u5ozF)

206 My ignorant father-in-law, a Liberal Republican, said that "we" need to change our messaging. On gay marriage, immigration, gay rights and "women's rights". He said "we" will never win another election until we do that.
I said that he might as well vote Democrat. He said, "no", the Democrats don't understand economics. I said they understand economics really well. He has a country club membership, and still takes his Social Security check, because he's "entitled to it".
I am not a Republican, because I don't want to be a Democrat.

Posted by: tubal at November 12, 2012 08:34 AM (BoE3Z)

207 The government promised free stuff, not content free. Pick up the pace 'round here and get Unicorn over to shipping.

Posted by: dogfish at November 12, 2012 08:34 AM (N2yhW)

208 Yeah, that Redstate piece by Erick Erickson makes sense until you remember that he was near the front of the line in taking out Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Lilredhen at November 12, 2012 08:34 AM (JDLBK)

209 Bevel,

I too think a third party option should be considered. the Tea Party already has some structure in place. Locally I will be looking into them. No, they may not be effective at first, and maybe it is too late, but it is something we should try. As, someone up thread said, can't be worse than GOP.

GW,

Independents that I know have thought that collisions exists between the GOP and the Dems. Looking at the data, actions of the govt I agree.

Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 08:35 AM (nxN0L)

210 Steven Tyler
ONCE A YR SANTA LEAVES GIFTS THAT DON'T MEAN MUCH...SOLDIERS PROTECT US YR ROUND GIVE US THE GIFT OF FREEDOM EVRY DAY...IT MEANS EVRYTHNG

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 08:35 AM (ck76k)

211 Toby,

The judgements of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

Bears repeating!

Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 08:37 AM (nxN0L)

212 You must be a Progressive cum guzzler and Marxist because the whole BUSH IS NOT A DICTATOR thing went right over your head.

But he was all like Hitler and shit, don't you remember the paper-mache heads with the mustaches? /s

In other news, Elmo's puppeteer is a pederast. Looking for pictures of Elmo with Harry Reid.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 08:37 AM (hO8IJ)

213 And everyone buying more house than they could afford because prices were only going up.

Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 08:31 AM (MOWP1)


You can't buy more house than you can afford unless someone is willing to give you a mortgage you aren't qualified for. Perversion of debt. That was feral government policy for the leech section of society and quickly infected the rest of the system. You can't force people to give 8% loans to people who are 12% risks and then expect the rest of the market to remain unchanged. Fannie and Freddie and other arms of the feral government jumped in to insure that this perversion would make its way through the whole market, as was inevitable.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:37 AM (X3lox)

214 "being a locust assed racial politics shitstirring lawyer who sued to try to force the banks to adhere or face penury during the clinton years and Bush years spreading magic acorns to have doom grow gets you 2 terms in power instead of 2 concurrent sentences in the clink...."

Kind of amazing nobody ever talks about red-lining now.

For decades, banks were the bad guys in not giving out more loans to poor people.

Then they give out more loans...

Then the completely predictable happens... A bunch of those loans can't be paid back.

Result?

It's the banks and Republicans who are the bad guys.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:37 AM (jWhdv)

215 @200

Yes you can go back in time and blame other administrations for shit

I blame Nixon for the EPA and other agencies that have morphed into leviathan.

I blame Reagan for Simpson/Mazzoli that is going to be the catalyst for the demise of this nation.

I blame Clinton for 9/11 as his polices allowed it to happen.

I blame Bush for not using his veto pen and for allowing spending to explode under his watch.


Your a clown begone!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:38 AM (06lNq)

216 http://tinyurl.com/cl9h3wf

Ogabe-68 New regulations a day so far living up to what I warned in detail...

he is regulating "responsibility for bio degradeables from the erosion of building material coating

In recent days, for example, the EPA posted a proposed rule involving
volatile organic compound emissions from architectural coatings: “We
are approving a local rule that regulates these emission sources under
the Clean Air Act (CAA or the Act),” the proposed rule states. “We are
taking comments on this proposal and plan to follow with a final
action.”


Have fun America....

I aim to live in a converted cargo container or in my semi that runs from Canada to America on relief runs.....


it'll be hard crossing the Friendship bridges with the Federally Mandated Windmill on the top of the cab but maybe I'll figure it out....

that's how progress works Barry's buds pass a regulation and voila technology just magically happens.

FUCK YOU FREE SHIT ARMY

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:38 AM (LRFds)

217 Mountain Turtle
You mentioned an email to my nic link the other day. I'm gonna try to get ahold of it.
Connected to that "outfit" but not in it.

Posted by: In Cognito at November 12, 2012 08:39 AM (erYRT)

218 Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (nt7V9)


My 5 year old has better reading comprehension and logic skills than you.

Scratch that (well, it's true, but doesn't show enough of my disdain): My 3 year old has better comprehension and logic skills than you.

I'm pretty sure my dogs have better comprehension and logic skills than you. It's hard to know for sure, because they don't have opposable thumbs.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:39 AM (8y9MW)

219 "High Plains Drifter"

Also one of if not the first "he was dead the whole time" movies.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 08:40 AM (jWhdv)

220
Friedman: Obama too busy to take revenge on Netanyahu


That's right you ignorant cock sucking jewish traitor. Revenge will have nothing to do with it. It's all about his basic philosophy of hating anything remotely western or judao/christian you asshole fuck face. G-D do i hate tom friedman

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:40 AM (79ueO)

221 Surfer Doc,

They are no longer riding ponies - but rats.

Heather Radish,

Just to let you know that I enjoy your posts.

Now, back to reading comments before heading to work. Gotta go start my car to let it warm up now.

Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 08:40 AM (nxN0L)

222 The more I look at the Republican party, the more I can no longer blame
them on the basis of stupidity/blindness. It does seem that they are in
active collusion with the Dems.


Mutually beneficial stupidity at the expense of the nation isn't necessarily collusion it's just another thing our system creates.

Politics costs $.
People build parties to spread those costs.
Winner takes all (non-parlimentary) little d democracy means there's only room for 2 parties.
This is why 3rd parties don't work and actually get the opposite result.
These 2 parties work in oppo in DC but are closer to each other than the public and get paid to keep the fight going not solve it.

Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 08:41 AM (MOWP1)

223 "Mr. Romney's heavy wooing of conservative donors limited his
ability to move his campaign positions to the center, to appeal to
moderate and independent donors."

He didn't seem to be running on the right, but he may of been far to the right of his preferred position. He once ran to the left of Ted Kennedy; he may have run to the left of Obama too, had his donors permitted it.

None of us knows Mitt Romney's real opinions or preferences.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (NH/xU)

224 Yes, and they are both calling for us to get involved in damn Syria now.

How many morons would be injured in the stampede to put a chute and dump em in on those two?

Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (MOWP1)

225 193 135 http://pjmedia.com/blog/it%E2%80%99s-not-the-economy-stupid/
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2012 08:11 AM (ccXZP)


Wow. Just wow. I think not only did I throw up in my mouth a little but that I'm choking on it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (XkWWK)



yes
enough said

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (LpQbZ)

226 Low interest rates were their own problem but they
most defiitely were NOT the cause of the credit crisis. Shit paper was
the cause of the credit crisis and shit paper is shit no matter what
effective yield it starts out with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:27 AM (X3lox)



The Fed lowers interest rates by buying up good paper, which forces investors to buy shit paper if they want any yield. Which encourages the issuance of more shit paper. Of course now the Fed is buying the shit paper too.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (nt7V9)

227 You can't buy more house than you can afford unless someone is willing to give you a mortgage you aren't qualified for.

If they say "no" you scream RACISM! and SEXISM! and REDLINING! Then the federal government tells the bank to issue the mortgage or everyone's going to prison, and the bank says the funds will be available tomorrow, and would you like an "equity loan" so you can take a cruise next summer?

Is my understanding, anyway.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 08:43 AM (hO8IJ)

228 227 HeatherRadish,

correct but try being a veeteran who refuses to yell "now eleventy!" and get a mortgage going....

Heather you need a house?

No joke it is not a bad one so far as it goes and evidently we're not exploding yet like the greenwood border.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:45 AM (LRFds)

229 OTBS, the adrenaline release will help clear your sinuses.


This is a good point. I've just been informed that I sound like I smoked a couple of cartons of cigarettes this morning. It's attractive, let me tell you.


Hey wait a sec Alex are you really Paul Ryan?


I wish.


On the GenX being boned thing, yup. I've noticed a trend in articles about GenX being the squeezed generation in that they are having to take care of their Boomer parents and are just on the cusp of having to take care of their college age kids as they return home because there are no jobs. I want to scream at the screen no shit this is what we evil reich wingers have been shrieking about for years.

*stompys more*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 12, 2012 08:45 AM (VtjlW)

230 Repealing the individual mandate by itself would do no good. The reason that part was challenged in court was because it was clearly unconstitutional and it was non-severable.


IOW, in a true court of laws the entire law would have been declared null and void. But alas, we haven't had a real court since about 1850.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:46 AM (YdQQY)

231 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:39 AM (8y9MW)


Since I'm so stupid, perhaps you could point out the error in my post 185?

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:46 AM (nt7V9)

232
My appologies, not much politics in me today. I'm still in mourning I think. Heading down to the local gun store to do some shopping to beef up the Talibill armory before the black helicopters start showing up. That puts the start of a smile on my face.

Posted by: Talibill at November 12, 2012 08:46 AM (tdZGt)

233 "Politics costs $.
People build parties to spread those costs.
Winner takes all (non-parlimentary) little d democracy means there's only room for 2 parties."

Right.

But even if the institutional right acts like it's just paid to keep the "fight" going, the left play to win in the long run. Hence mass immigration and a constant leftward shift in politics.

The best solution would be for equally forward-thinking activists to take over the Republican Party and start pushing hard and pro-actively the other way.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 12, 2012 08:47 AM (NH/xU)

234 Fannie and Freddie and other arms of the feral government jumped in to insure that this perversion would make its way through the whole market, as was inevitable.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:37 AM (X3lox)

I remember that. When Me and the Misses got our first home loan they offered us 325K. We looked at each other and laughed. Our first house was financed for about 180K. I guess an assfull of folks didn't laugh.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 12, 2012 08:47 AM (3Y7RV)

235 The Fed lowers interest rates by buying up good paper, which forces investors to buy shit paper if they want any yield

Exactly wrong. Which just explains how completely ignorant you are. Stop embarrassing yourself.

The Fed lowers interest rates by... lowering interest rates. Banks borrow money from the Fed to operate. They pay interest on that borrowed money (called the Prime Rate, usually). Banks then lend that money out at higher interest rates to make what we, in the real world, call a "profit." That Prime Rate is set by the Fed.

Other things also drive the interest rates you pay on credit, and get paid on investment/savings, but the only thing the Fed gets to do re: Interest Rates is set the Prime Rate.

The Fed purchasing Government bonds is a completely different issue- actually far worse than any monkeying with the interest rates.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:48 AM (8y9MW)

236 As a GenXer, I've always known we were boned, never expected SS to be there for me, and planned accordingly. But only now, as I'm in my mid-40s, do I fully comprehend the full scale of the bonitude.
Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 08:28 AM (96M6e)




Yes. Anyone in their late 30's, 40's who actually still have a bit of that "what America used to be" are going to feel a lot of pain.

I feel sorry for those that have children growing up in this mess.

Imagine a child being reared without the basic understanding of Freedom, Integrity, Liberty, Self-fulfillment and Responsibility, etc?

It was a gift to me. And, they will never fully realize how wonderful it really was.

What is life worth without freedom?

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:48 AM (LpQbZ)

237 231 schizoid,

Hey fuckhead glad to see you accept you're stupid that's step one...

How many "Presidents' were there between Beijing Billy and Carter?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:49 AM (LRFds)

238 All best practices for who would and would not receive loans was thrown out the window.

Standard loan practices were 20% down and no more than 25-30% of income going to the mortgage payments.


After the rules were changed:

You could get 0% down mortgages and up to 75% of income could go to paying the mortgage, in other words FINANCIAL CATASTROPHE WAS ASSURED AT INCEPTION!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 08:50 AM (06lNq)

239 Since I'm so stupid, perhaps you could point out the error in my post 185?

Others have and you just ignore them. I'm not going to waste my time on explaining to you what you have no desire to have explained.

So instead I'll just mock.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:50 AM (8y9MW)

240 Watch to the end:

http://youtu.be/oo0d1zTAFKA

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at November 12, 2012 08:50 AM (WbGW2)

241 Vic,
Was your response to me that McCain & Graham want us to get involved in Syria? We should stay the hell out of there because it could be end up worse that it is now.
I think we should only protect US interests and let the rest of the world protect their own interests. We aren't the world cops and we are broke.
I have avoided news after the election. I'm taking a break from politics and news.
McCain called the Libyan rebels "heroes" remember that? I wonder if those "heroes" helped kill our four American citizens on 9/11/2012. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at November 12, 2012 08:50 AM (z4WKX)

242 Content? We don't need no stinking content.


AoSHQ, the blog the commentators run.


And we like it.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at November 12, 2012 08:51 AM (wR+pz)

243 236 beach,

being a busboy in Shanghai I bet....

Look Freedom is there you just have to use the Jack solution at the end of Fight Club and go both ways....

if you quit chasing shit you don't need and go to ground and race free shit army to the bottom we can wreck the whole con game.

We're fucked we're not gonna get "social security" until we're 70 but barack Obama just made us DNR probably starting at age 60....

the race has been defined and they'll kill you anyway.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:51 AM (LRFds)

244
Axelfuck knows where his bread is buttered.

He is out there saying he wants to groom young people to go into "journalism".

Posted by: Fresh at November 12, 2012 08:52 AM (O7ksG)

245 Was your response to me that McCain Graham want us to get involved
in Syria? We should stay the hell out of there because it could be end
up worse that it is now.



My response was arm both sides or stay out because they are both evil SOBs. Everyone knows the rebels are Al Queda.

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 08:52 AM (YdQQY)

246 85 Gnu, there was a wickedpinto sighting?!? OK, truly, either SMOD or teh Mayanz have us in the crosshairs.

And I don't mean that in the figurative, Palinesque way. I mean it in the way that we've actually been red-dotted.
Posted by: jakeman at November 12, 2012 07:54 AM (96M6e)





WP's been sticking his head back into the HQ off and on for quite some time (years) but usually under a different nic. The resurrection of WickedPinto is a new thing, and heartily appreciated. By the way, WP dropped a couple of comments as WP earlier in the week as well.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 12, 2012 08:52 AM (Rhie+)

247 Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?

=====

"Bush hates the black peoples! Bush hates the black peoples!

Posted by: Mainstream Media and Democrat Politicians at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (lTVJy)

248 240 Watch to the end:

http://youtu.be/oo0d1zTAFKA
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at November 12, 2012 08:50 AM (WbGW2)
======

yeah, hated the guy ever since I heard him say this

Posted by: beach at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (LpQbZ)

249 We don't own the media. The left does. That must change.

Posted by: Fresh at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (O7ksG)

250
French gunman's brother blames parents in new book
Toulouse gunman's brother says siblings were told by mother 'We, the Arabs, we were born to hate Jews'
Associated Press
Published: 11.11.12, 23:00 / Israel News



The radicalization of the French gunman who killed seven people on an eight-day shooting spree this spring began at home, his brother recounts in a new book and documentary, according to media reports.

Mohamed Merah killed three Jewish children, a rabbi and three paratroopers in and around the southern city of Toulouse in March before dying in a standoff with police. Merah claimed links to al-Qaida and said he had received training at an Islamist paramilitary camp in Pakistan.

But all religions are equal and islam is peace loving right obama?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (79ueO)

251 232 talibill,

I've been pondering it and I guess it ain;t a bad idea to have a a few spares.

I'm heading out to start shopping for fieldcraft kit.

A lot of pain in NYC would have been saved if they'd have adhered better to my Grandma's advice to always have a blanket or three nearby after august.

God help you blue staters because I never will voluntarily again.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:54 AM (LRFds)

252
@189 But only now ... do I fully comprehend the full scale of the bonitude

A noble beginning, Grasshopper.

From Sovereign Man, "I Apologize for What You're About to Read"
http://tinyurl.com/clrhkzq

With the rise of baby boomer entitlements and steady increase in overall debt levels, mandatory spending and interest payments have exploded in recent years. In fact, the Congressional Budget Office predicted in 2010 that the US government's TOTAL revenue would be exceeded by mandatory spending and interest expense within 15 years.

That's a scary thought. Except it happened the very next year.

For fiscal year 2012 which ended just 43 days ago, that shortfall ... was $251.8 billion.

In other words, they could cut the entirety of the Federal Government's discretionary budget - no more military, SEC, FBI, etc - and they would still be in the hole by a quarter of a trillion dollars.


The whole article is worth reading.

We are so boned.

The Math Witch will not be burned.


Posted by: crisis du jour at November 12, 2012 08:54 AM (J1eJz)

253 220 G-D do i hate tom friedman
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:40 AM (79ueO)


Tom Friedman is to SCOAMF what Trotsky was to Stalin.

And I am looking forward to the day when Friedman gets a splitting Mexico City headache, a la Lev.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:54 AM (XkWWK)

254 The Fed lowers interest rates by... lowering
interest rates.


Umm, no. The Fed lowers interest rates through open market operations. Google it.

Banks borrow money from the Fed to operate.

No, they don't, unless they're in trouble. They do borrow money from each other however.

They pay
interest on that borrowed money (called the Prime Rate, usually).
Banks
then lend that money out at higher interest rates to make what we, in
the real world, call a "profit." That Prime Rate is set by the Fed.


No, that would be the Fed Funds rate. And it is set by the market. But the Fed intervenes in the market by buying or selling securities to force the market rate to be something close to what the Fed wants it to be.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:55 AM (nt7V9)

255 "G-D do i hate tom friedman"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:40 AM (79ueO)

He is the ultimate "Post-Modern" Jew.

When the Muzzies take over they will chop off his head, and he will die wondering why.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:56 AM (GsoHv)

256 The Fed lowers interest rates by buying up good paper, which forces investors to buy shit paper if they want any yield. Which encourages the issuance of more shit paper. Of course now the Fed is buying the shit paper too.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (nt7V9)


You seem to have a serious lack of understanding of the difference between high-yielding paper and shit paper. Loans are shit if they are given at the wrong rate. Even the shittiest risk has an appropriate rate which makes it good paper. It's when the rate and the risk are out of sync that the paper is shit.

You really don't seem to understand the debt market.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:56 AM (X3lox)

257 AtC is stompying all over people already?


Here Alex, relax.....http://tinyurl.com/anle3v7

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 08:56 AM (da5Wo)

258 This is a good point. I've just been informed that I sound like I smoked a couple of cartons of cigarettes this morning. It's attractive, let me tell you.

It's even better if you walk into a meeting, put your hands on your hips and do your best Bette Davis:

"What a dump!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2012 08:56 AM (zF6Iw)

259 The Fed lowers interest rates by buying up good
paper, which forces investors to buy shit paper if they want any yield.
Which encourages the issuance of more shit paper. Of course now the Fed
is buying the shit paper too.


Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:42 AM (nt7V9)

There were also the incorrectly used derivatives they were using to "wash" these investments clean. I read up on the math before but essentially they were making assumptions about the statistics of that money that wasn't true, so these repackaged assets were actually just toxic.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at November 12, 2012 08:57 AM (xAtAj)

260 250 Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (79ueO)

Sounds just like what college professors (hell, kindergarten teachers) tell their charges.

We are about to reap a whirlwind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2012 08:57 AM (XkWWK)

261 254 Schizoid,

Yeah dumbass in a text book....what the high fuck do you not understand you motherfucking retard?

Mitt's 47% lament was about the fed buying up 90% of these bond issues with imaginarium......

Jesus fucking Christ this ain't "it's a Wonderful life" sonny it's "fuck you subsidize oil in Brazil not the US.....

let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (LRFds)

262 I don't know if I need a house or not. The company that bought my company last summer is "restructuring" so I may not be long for Indiana. I've been spending part of every weekend getting rid of stuff in case I have to move.

On other news, IT'S SNOWING!!!! WOO-HOO!

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, Crankypants Extraordinaire at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (hO8IJ)

263
The Free Shit Army runs on free shit. That's why they are the Free Shit Army.

The free shit is running out. The productive will or will not go various degrees of Galt. But in the broader context of where we are, going Galt means jack diddlysquat because the free shit is going to run out regardless. Because of math. That's why.

Hold the debt ceiling. Strictly limit the free shit right now.

Underclass is a pathological set of behaviors fueled by access to free shit. We have to pretend in our compulsion to appear politically correctly compassionate that underclass is instead a temporary condition brought about by an unfortunate set of circumstances. There but for the grace of God. . .

It's a lie. Just about everyone faces setbacks. Just about everyone has had to swallow several platefuls of shit getting to where he is in life.

Some overcome. Others don't. The bigger the safety net, the more "others" will get entangled in it.

The Free Shit Army is coming for *your* stuff. The Free Shit Army is coming for *my* stuff. The only chance we have is to set them to fighting amongst themselves.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (ogdab)

264 Fuck Eric Ericson.

We lost an election because of a poorly executed GOTV operation.

In other knee jerk articles, much is being written about "Tea Party" candidates losing downticket. People like Akin and Murdouch have nothing to do with the Tea Party. In the future, if people with a social agenda wish to vote for candidates who favor lower taxes, smaller government and less regulation, we are happy to have their support, but don't confuse them with our priorities.

Posted by: jwest at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (ZDsRL)

265 Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 08:55 AM (nt7V9)

And you don't think that the Federal Reserve has tremendous control over the Open Markets meetings?

You are a fool.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (GsoHv)

266 Umm, no. The Fed lowers interest rates through open market operations. Google it.

I'd rather trust my Head Cashier/Manager of Compliance Father who has been in banking for working on 40 years (including several as an FDIC auditor), as well as my own experience working at a bank.

Thanks for playing, though.

Since you choose not to be educated, you are fit only for mocking.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) All Dead Inside at November 12, 2012 08:59 AM (8y9MW)

267 When the Muzzies take over they will chop off his head, and he will die wondering why.

No, he won't. To his last breath, he'll tell himself he deserves it.

GD, I'm getting pissed off. I'm out of here.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2012 08:59 AM (zF6Iw)

268 For prosecuting voter fraud, the template is already in place by the IRS.
When the IRS finds fraud, they do not attempt to prosecute every case.
They find a few high profile cheats, and they come down on those few cases like a ton of bricks.
Then, the rest of us fall in to line.

Posted by: navybrat at November 12, 2012 09:00 AM (r1ty1)

269 @256

Clowns like this are why we are in the sorry state we are in today.

It's as Reagan said:

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so!"

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 09:00 AM (06lNq)

270 262 Heather Radish,

Heather my mortgage is very reasonable compared to rent here.

Stay in touch...I go in tomorrow for my shoulder's passenger.

Not too worried I mostly get the one and not the other.

Keep your head up.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:00 AM (LRFds)

271 247
Ok, let's say this is true. Why didn't Bush reverse the policy?

=====

"Bush hates the black peoples! Bush hates the black peoples!


Posted by: Mainstream Media and Democrat Politicians at November 12, 2012 08:53 AM (lTVJy)

But it was a Clinton policy! He was the first black president!

Posted by: Bush at November 12, 2012 09:01 AM (nt7V9)

272 217

This is the day the Lord has made, I will rejoice and be glad in it.

Have a good day all.

Posted by: MountainTurtle who hopes the Mayans were right at November 12, 2012 09:01 AM (nxN0L)

273 The voices in my head tell me it's Bush's fault.

Posted by: schit-zoid at November 12, 2012 09:02 AM (8y9MW)

274 Don't bother me with your facts. That cat over there just told me the TRUTH!

Posted by: schit-zoid at November 12, 2012 09:03 AM (8y9MW)

275 I'd rather trust my Head Cashier/Manager of Compliance Father who has
been in banking for working on 40 years (including several as an FDIC
auditor), as well as my own experience working at a bank.



Ok, then ask him what open market operations are. Also ask him about the difference between the Prime Rate and the Fed Funds rate.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 09:03 AM (nt7V9)

276 Ben's dump up

Posted by: Vic at November 12, 2012 09:05 AM (YdQQY)

277 I Googled it, so it must be true!

Also- BOOOOOSH!

Posted by: schit-zoid at November 12, 2012 09:05 AM (8y9MW)

278 "Questions for Petraeus will have to wait"....


http://tinyurl.com/bxkezzs



"Clinton declines to testify...."


http://tinyurl.com/ansctkj




What. The. Fuck???? Issue the damn subpoenas and quit fucking around.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 12, 2012 09:05 AM (da5Wo)

279 If they want a dictatorship, they should move to Zimbabwe and leave us alone.

Posted by: JDTAY at November 12, 2012 08:07 AM (a0nis)




No need to go there because Barry is bringing it here

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2012 09:06 AM (1Jaio)

280 2798 TQM,

which brings us back to secession...since Blue City America evidently already seceded in 2000.....


here we sit.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:08 AM (LRFds)

281 DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran
launched military drills across half the country on Monday, warning it
would act against aggressors less than a week after Washington accused
Iranian warplanes of firing on a U.S. drone.

The maneuvers will take place this week across 850,000
square kilometers (330,000 square miles) of Iran's northeast, east, and
southeast regions, Iranian media reported.







Have no fear, Captain Gutsy Call will do something. Like go on vacation

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2012 09:08 AM (1Jaio)

282 You seem to have a serious lack of understanding of
the difference between high-yielding paper and shit paper. Loans are
shit if they are given at the wrong rate. Even the shittiest risk has
an appropriate rate which makes it good paper. It's when the rate and
the risk are out of sync that the paper is shit.


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 12, 2012 08:56 AM (X3lox)



When the Fed buys low-risk low-yielding paper, it depresses the yield further and forces investors to buy higher risk paper to maintain their yield. This buying depresses the yield of the higher risk paper, causing it to become shit by your definition.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 09:11 AM (nt7V9)

283 Endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 12, 2012 09:13 AM (ll6WS)

284 elmo is ghey....not shocked at all.... http://tinyurl.com/au6rxnd

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 12, 2012 09:13 AM (Ho2rs)

285 Best wishes to you all from me Down Under - so sorry about the election result


Looks like our shitty Federal Government is looking closely at your Prez's successful campaign strategies - can't say I'm looking forward to those ads that you were inflicted with ...although our circumstances are very different as in:

1. We have an Electoral Commission which is Australia wide so all voting age citizens are on their electoral roll
This Commission controls all elections right down to local ones

2. We have paper ballots - no machines to be tampered with

3. Voting is compulsory and is on one day only on a Saturday from 8am to 6pm - no earlier
If you are away you can vote absentee but you have to apply for a ballot paper as soon as the election is called

For Fed and State elections you can vote out of your electorate because each polling booth has the same roll Australia wide

We don't register with any party affiliation - we are just a name on the electoral roll


Of course we have our MSM almost all with a lefty lean, unions and plenty of stupid airheads who clamour for social justice, equality for all, and follow celebrities breathlessly...........

Posted by: aussie at November 12, 2012 09:14 AM (/chYc)

286 And you don't think that the Federal Reserve has tremendous control over the Open Markets meetings?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 12, 2012 08:58 AM (GsoHv)



Umm, yeah. The Open Market Committee is part of the Fed.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 09:14 AM (nt7V9)

287 @282

Here is the bottom line dick face.

The rules were changed so that everyone and anyone could could get a loan regardless if it made any financial sense to do so.

The government securitized all of these worthless notes through Freddie and Fannie.

Bush, as one of his first acts tried to fix this. He was rebuffed. He tried many times and was rebuffed every time.

The piper came calling the tune as the housing bubble burst the government was left holding the bag hence the meltdown.

The Democrats were the architects of all of this.

The Republicans allowed all of this madness to happen when they should have fought it.

The Republicans got 100% of the blame, which to this day they have not even attempted to correct.


NOW FUCK YOU VERY MUCH AND GO AWAY!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 09:20 AM (06lNq)

288 Does anyone know a good computer program that teaches Mandarin?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 12, 2012 09:20 AM (3Y7RV)

289 Watched Reagan's farewell address to the nation on Sunday..
There was something wet running down my face.

Posted by: MarkC at November 12, 2012 09:20 AM (Kf68R)

290 Shits Like Krystol our RINOS Neo-Cons is really code words for Save Israel at all costs & to hell with the rest of the world

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 09:21 AM (ck76k)

291 Schizoid, let's try to take small steps.

Why is high yield debt called "high yield?"

(yeah, I know the answer and if you insist, I'll give a full response in my next reply--but how about we just start there)

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (jWhdv)

292 288 OSP,

Go to your library and look for Rosetta Stone.

I am pondering mandarin, French, or Spanish....

am I a slave resigned to fate and willing to swear patriotism to a corp?

am I a person who gives up on commerce and capitalism and just goes to where I can dabble enough to live and go north to wait to die

do i count on being ruthless enough to carve out a space managing the invaders and being the guy who trains them to run the nation they just stole?

I'm going with 1 or 2.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (LRFds)

293 Clint Eastwood -

For viewing pleasure: Josey Wales

For his best acting: Unforgiven

Posted by: mrp at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (HjPtV)

294 The reason we Conservatives get defeated is; we never organize ourselves to do anything of substance...

Yea we protests with the Tea Party, but then just stand around and get defined by Oblamo and crew...

This is an Asymmetrical task ... You cannot defeat the ideals in an "All in one Approach"...

You have to make the other side respect your ideal...or in other words give them undesirable CONSEQUENCES...

I vote with my Dollars EVERYDAY...

Why do Conservatives continue to buy UAW products when we know it is a money laundering scheme for the DNC?

Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (VvvBE)

295 290 evilpens,

um no...this has sweet f**kall to do with israel and everything to do with juan vasquez nice try though Paulnut

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (LRFds)

296 Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (LRFds)

I can't stand RoPaul ! Sorry Asshat

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 09:24 AM (ck76k)

297 294 Chicken ala King,

good points and why I'm slowly a total pessimist....

too mahy of us like new stuff enough we feed the beast.

I'll never buy a new non commercial vehicle again.

See you detroit.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:25 AM (LRFds)

298 296 EvilPens,

so you're a free range Jew hater.

awesome.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:25 AM (LRFds)

299 @291

Your playing a fools game with a fool

This is what they do.

He has changed the subject to esoteric concerns.

Dem policies caused the financial meltdown.

The Republicans for reasons that elude me, decided to take 100% of the blame.


And now we have to suffer fools like Schitzoid!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 12, 2012 09:26 AM (06lNq)

300 299 GW,

we're on the same page.

I quit you own it show me Barry and his enablers...

show me.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:28 AM (LRFds)

301 Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:25 AM (LRFds)

NO ASSHAT!! I am all for Israel survival trying to explain to shit eaters like you That Krystol & the like are Really Democrats who realized that they don't care about Israel so they moved to the Republican party

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 09:28 AM (ck76k)

302 "Shits Like Krystol"

If you know Kristol's work enough to hate him, could you at least spell his name right?

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 09:31 AM (jWhdv)

303 301 EvilPens,

Yeah well if Kristol's influence were just to israel I'd be okay dickhead....

you know in a sane world the Donks blowing the goatf***ers would cost them votes...

instead we get "let the holy land burn" b/c Kirstol eleventy....

There's a reason someone else is picking up the check on the next race.

This gun's retired.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:31 AM (LRFds)

304 291
Schizoid, let's try to take small steps.



Why is high yield debt called "high yield?"



(yeah, I know the answer and if you insist, I'll give a full response in my next reply--but how about we just start there)

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 09:23 AM (jWhdv)

Because it has a high interest rate, which in a normally functioning market, suggests a high risk of default.

Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 09:41 AM (nt7V9)

305 Wot. No luv for "Two Mules for Sister Sara"?

Yeah. Me neither.

Posted by: comatus at November 12, 2012 09:42 AM (qaVK+)

306 God damn, people. Get a fucking grip, and stop trying to verbally kill each other.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 12, 2012 09:44 AM (L7hol)

307 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at November 12, 2012 09:44 AM (L7hol)

I was just pointing out What KRISTOL is

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 09:51 AM (ck76k)

308 307 evilpens,

if you think we don't know what the Kristol caucus is and is not you may want to read us for about two weeks...

what I and many others here aren't is subtly disguised stormfront folk...

not accusing you hard of it by the way.

Here's the deal I am forced into a corner wondering since Barry and the Donks won using tribal tactics if I need to bury the hatchet with the Buchanan wing.

That ain't comfortable for me since it means I let Israel get nuked first if he had his way.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:58 AM (LRFds)

309 "Because it has a high interest rate, which in a normally functioning market, suggests a high risk of default."

No.

It's because it's low priced. It might have a high coupon. It might have no coupon whatsoever. However, the fact it's low priced means you can buy it at much lower than what it purports to one day pay.

So, you could have debt that supposedly will one day pay the investor $100,000, but is selling for $10,000. That would be high yield. It's the equivalent of making a 10 dollar bet for a $100 return.

Making 10 of those bets should be no more dangerous than making 2 $50 bets (lower yield, though that sort of yield wouldn't be call low yield on the market) where you have a 50% chance of getting your money back.

The problem is not in making that type of bet. The problem is, as Primordeal was saying, when you think it's safer than it actually is. If you think you have a 10% chance of getting your money back on that sort of bet, but only have a 1% chance, then you're fucked.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 10:02 AM (jWhdv)

310 Posted by: sven10077 at November 12, 2012 09:58 AM (LRFds)

Definitely not a stormfront person, Just a republtarian

Republican with some Libertarian leanings & Yes I think Paul is right on some stuff &100% wrong on foreign policy & ESPECIALLY Israel !

Posted by: Evilpens at November 12, 2012 10:16 AM (ck76k)

311 Sorry, "2 $50,000 bets"

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 10:23 AM (jWhdv)

312 Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 10:02 AM (jWhdv)


Well, I could have said "because it has a high yield," but as an answer to "Why is high yield debt called 'high yield?'" it would have sounded stupid.

I agree with your points, especially this last one:

The problem is not in making that type of bet. The problem is, as
Primordeal was saying, when you think it's safer than it actually is. If
you think you have a 10% chance of getting your money back on that sort
of bet, but only have a 1% chance, then you're fucked.



The Fed has been buying crappy debt like MBS, driving its price up and yield down, to create the illusion that it's safer than it is.




Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 10:28 AM (nt7V9)

313 Well, I could have said "because it has a high yield," but as an answer to "Why is high yield debt called 'high yield?'" it would have sounded stupid.

It doesn't have a high yield, though. It *could* have a high yield, but what it means is you'd need a high yield on any one particular piece of debt to get what it purports to pay.

The Fed has been buying crappy debt like MBS, driving its price up and yield down, to create the illusion that it's safer than it is.

if investors believed it was priced too high, they could have just shorted the debt.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 10:51 AM (jWhdv)

314 @ 288. I don't know a good mandarin program.

I just live here and head butt guys in bars.

I always seem to learn a new word or two. Most of it Chinese cussing!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 12, 2012 10:59 AM (h9Wqe)

315 It doesn't have a high yield, though. It *could* have a high yield, but
what it means is you'd need a high yield on any one particular piece of
debt to get what it purports to pay.


No, it means that if you buy it at the current market price, and it pays off as promised, you will earn a high yield.

if investors believed it was priced too high, they could have just shorted the debt.


Ask the ZeroHedge crowd how well that works. Yes, if the price is too high due to Fed manipulation, you can short it. But if the price goes even higher due to more Fed manipulation, you are fucked. There's no limit to Fed manipulation, and thus no price level at which it is safe to short.


Posted by: schizoid at November 12, 2012 11:02 AM (nt7V9)

316 "No, it means that if you buy it at the current market price, and it pays off as promised, you will earn a high yield."

Huh?

1. That's not what you said.

2. That is what I said.

"It *could* have a high yield, but what it means is you'd need a high yield on any one particular piece of debt to get what it purports to pay."

Ask the ZeroHedge crowd how well that works.

Zerohedge = somebody who gave a bunch of conspiracy nuts a finance book. They mean nothing to me and certainly aren't an authority, but if you have something from arguing this is wrong, feel free to link it.

"Yes, if the price is too high due to Fed manipulation, you can short it. But if the price goes even higher due to more Fed manipulation, you are fucked. There's no limit to Fed manipulation, and thus no price level at which it is safe to short."

Given that the prices collapsed, there clearly was a limit.

Posted by: AD at November 12, 2012 11:50 AM (jWhdv)

317 Reach out to minorities. At the end of the election, Black people from the south side of Chicago protested against the Democratic party. The protestors were asking what they had received for all their support over the years. Their community is still poor, and blighted. All promises were never fullfilled and money seemed only to enrich Unions and the other usual suspects. Break the strangle hold that the democrats hold with the truth and offer something different.

Posted by: Ron at November 12, 2012 02:06 PM (V7uPm)






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