ONT - Game Over Edition. [krakatoa]

(Your regular Saturday host is trying to get in good with the new owners of Star Wars. Took his kids. Says it's a vacation. I think he intends to trade them for a re-release of IV with Han shooting first.)

So. That happened.

I'm not going to pretend to have some sort of deep insight into all the things that added up to another Obama term. Frankly, I think the best answer is probably a little bit of "all of the above".

Bottom line though? We are not the country we thought we were. As has been pointed out by pointier heads than mine, we lost the cultural battle for the electorate long ago, and have made little noticeable improvement on that front since 1984.

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They even took that from us, remaking it with this guy as the agressor.

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What to do in a world where you wake up fundamentally boned? Where taxes are going to rise, incomes fall, inflation skyrocket, and Obama's mug soon to grace the face of the Hundred-thousand dollar bill, which, along with a shiny Biden nickel will buy you a steaming cup of Joe at Starbucks.

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Shown reduced scale, but actual value.

See - for me, that's how I'm choosing to look at it. Yeah, Ace and the egghead cob-loggers are going to do what they do best - wargame strategies that raise the hopes of the moron-hordes that next election, we'll have a winning plan.

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I'm a giver. This is what I do. I give...

Not me. I don't see a path back right now. And frankly, I have to admit, I felt relieved after the loss. I wanted a big-choice election like this to tell me whether we as a nation had the willingness to do that which was hard in order to preserve our republic.

Obviously our message could not beat the dulcet and seductive tone of our competitor's message.

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...And sometimes I take.

So here we are. If the country wants to give Socialism a try, I'm in the general frame of mind to tell our reps to rubber stamp everything, and let the Dems own their Utopia.

All I need to do now is figure out how to profit off the stupidity of the 52%, and do it all with grace and humor. And I have a plan. Well, I have a plan to get a plan.

My solution is groundbreaking. It's stupendous. It's...it's...

Well, it's you. So yeah, grace is right out, but I still have high hopes for the humor and the profit.

Sound off tonight on all the ways to make a buck or save a buck in the coming economic wasteland. Daddy's new AK-47 ain't gonna buy itself, after all.

Oh wait. Shit. It's something called "caturday"?

Umm. Here. Enjoy this or whatever, but really, and I cannot emphasize this enough, make me rich with your comments.

Tonight's ONT brought to you by the Patron Saint of Silver Linings, Mr. Slim Pickens.

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Comments

1 Free at last.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 09:15 PM (FcR7P)

2 Thank God, Almighty!

Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 09:16 PM (ZFmc3)

3
I'm binder free!

Posted by: Molly k. at November 10, 2012 09:16 PM (CiTOH)

4 What is that smell, it smells......... fresh.

Posted by: Adam at November 10, 2012 09:17 PM (/YJYi)

5 Thank you. Thank you, krak.

Posted by: Ronster at November 10, 2012 09:18 PM (nQMHQ)

6 >>it smells......... fresh.

Like a Summer's Eve?

Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (ZFmc3)

7 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp)

8 Well, fucking finally.

Posted by: rickl at November 10, 2012 09:20 PM (sdi6R)

9 Hi, morons. Been hibernating since learning of the loss of our society that our forebears fought and died for. It was. A nice run, I guess.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 09:20 PM (cQmXn)

10 Ohio Dud? I keed.

Posted by: Ronster at November 10, 2012 09:20 PM (nQMHQ)

11 Holy cow. Driving down to the OBX through southside Virginia made me realize just how different Virginia rural Virginia is getting. Every little small town had signs up in Spanish, and every one of them had a Hispanic bodega. Plus a bunch of trailer parks that looked like a 3rd world shithole.


We've got the 3rd world shithole President, makes sense that we turn into a 3rd world shithole.


Do you think African celebrities will start coming here to adopt our children?

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 10, 2012 09:20 PM (Ohhk6)

12 m looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp).........Dan from Oiho?

Posted by: Molly k. at November 10, 2012 09:21 PM (CiTOH)

13 So Pat Buchanan was right about the culture war jazz way back in 1992!


We should have heeded his warning.


Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:22 PM (0fxcV)

14 The faces of the new Red Dawn actors look too clean and sparkly. They need a more gritty Sheen.

Posted by: derit at November 10, 2012 09:22 PM (I88Jc)

15 I bet some inner-city golf courses, inspired by Our Beloved Emperor, would make mint.





Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 09:23 PM (sRus3)

16
I'm beginning to wonder if the House fighting against socialized destruction is a bad idea too. It's like giving radiation treatments to a terminally ill cancer patient. What's the point?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 10, 2012 09:23 PM (8cOY0)

17 I keep wondering whether we ought to be focusing on the reason why Barky got 6 million fewer votes than last time. If we had reached a tipping point, shouldn't it have been 6 million more?

Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 10, 2012 09:23 PM (YwXwp)

18 If inflation's comin'm how bout maxing out the credit cards with important goods?

Posted by: nonymuss at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (fh3lh)

19 So, I didn't read that last thread, but did it have breasts or anything?

Posted by: rickl at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (sdi6R)

20 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?
"Ohio Voter Fraud"???

Oh. You want to get away from that.

Never mind.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (nkiQM)

21 I am ashamed of Ohio so all variations of O(you fucked the country)hio are automatically rejected.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (JKNDp)

22 @16

I think the phrase your looking for is:

LET IT BURN!

It seems to be the rage on the intertubes!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (0fxcV)

23 Been thinking about monkeywrenching agitprop.

I want to start a false-flag operation up in the deep blue Northeast. A lefty peacenik disarmament push. The sort of thing that Mary Clogginstein of Brattleboro, VT would gush over.

What do we want to get shut down? Bath Iron Works in Maine. A shipyard for Navy destroyers.

After all, BIW work to make WEAPONS OF WAR. And WAR IS BAD FOR CHILDREN AND OTHER LIVING THINGS. We all need to work for A WORLD BEYOND WAR with reduced weapons buying.

I see no reason why the pathetic remnants of naval defense spending under Obama should go to a shipyard in a region that votes for lefty politicians who hate the military. Not when the funds could instead go to build warships in reliably red Gulf Coast states. Though we won't mention that in public.

Let's start to pressure those politicians from their peacenik left. What do we want? BIW closed! When do we want it closed? Now!

Of course, we can't let BIW sit empty. We have to "repurpose" it somehow. In a peaceful way.

I'm thinking something along the lines of the Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too. Or a womyns' lesbian marine biology center.

But I'm open to your suggestions.

Posted by: torquewrench at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (ymG7s)

24 So, I didn't read that last thread, but did it have breasts or anything?
Posted by: rickl at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (sdi6R)


The last thread sucked like no other.

Posted by: Ronster at November 10, 2012 09:25 PM (nQMHQ)

25 Effed in Ohio? Effing Ohio? Dan in the Land of Losers?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (2rMmy)

26 Oiho Dan?

Posted by: Barack HUssein Obama at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (ZFmc3)

27 YAY !!!!!!!! ONT !!!!!!!! Thank You !!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (zkSgu)

28 21
I am ashamed of Ohio so all variations of O(you fucked the country)hio are automatically rejected.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (JKNDp)

Hoe about FFO Dan? (Formerly from O....)

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (JwW4z)

29 Everything you could ask for from an ONT.

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (mHU03)

30
Constitutionalists, the politically incorrect, and the like really need and deserve a homeland. A nation to call our own. We need a divorce from the statist bastards who run the show and will continue to do so. That's a foregone conclusion. You can't beat demographics.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (8cOY0)

31 Jebus. Was this supposed to lift the pall of half of my countrymen and wimmins?

Posted by: RushBabe at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (tQHzJ)

32 I bet some inner-city golf courses, inspired by Our Beloved Emperor, would make mint.
First you knock it off da Fiscal Cliff and den try to get it in da Clown's Asshole for a score.

Posted by: owner of inner city King Putt Putt at November 10, 2012 09:26 PM (nkiQM)

33 Well, I meant HOW, not HOE.... can't...type...anymore....

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 09:27 PM (JwW4z)

34 How about, We're all boned, Dan

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:27 PM (JKNDp)

35 Anyone want to help me squeeze those lemons ?

Posted by: barrysux at November 10, 2012 09:27 PM (fHUFz)

36 I'm beginning to wonder if the House fighting against socialized destruction is a bad idea too. It's like giving radiation treatments to a terminally ill cancer patient. What's the point?
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 10, 2012 09:23 PM (8cOY0)

Yeah, like not letting them smoke. No pain killers. You might get addicted.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 09:27 PM (sRus3)

37 So here is my suggestion for you people with kids. For Christmas you give them a box under the tree. When they open it, there is an 8x10 of Obamas scowling face and nothing else. Then you explain that Obama stole all of the toys. Cruel? Yes, but they are being taught in school to worship him and despise you. The question is, whose hand is going to rock the cradle?

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 10, 2012 09:28 PM (eacF6)

38 I wouldn't invest in green energy if my life depended on it. Now the Obamacare scam, there's money to be made there. Maybe I'll invest in drugs and mortuaries.

Posted by: Fritz at November 10, 2012 09:28 PM (0yCoM)

39 "21 I am ashamed of Ohio so all variations of O(you fucked the country)hio are automatically rejected."

What about "State that Produced Herbert Hoover Dan?"

Or

"Lebron was right"

Posted by: AD at November 10, 2012 09:28 PM (qOojd)

40 [The last thread sucked like no other.]
It really sucked.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:29 PM (nkiQM)

41 When stockpiling food, don't forget the can opener !!!!

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 09:29 PM (gh+mp)

42 I keep wondering whether we ought to be focusing on the reason why Barky got 6 million fewer votes than last time. If we had reached a tipping point, shouldn't it have been 6 million more?
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 10, 2012 09:23 PM (YwXwp)

The tipping point has two natures: the Dem side and the GOP side. If we slide fast enough the Dems stay head even if they are sliding, too.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 09:29 PM (sRus3)

43 The faces of the new Red Dawn actors look too clean and sparkly. They need a more gritty Sheen.

You get five minutes in The Box for that pun...

Posted by: Alex at November 10, 2012 09:29 PM (HwgHt)

44 Dirigible Dan

Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 09:29 PM (Rmuui)

45
Awww Crap Dan.

.
It has www in it so it will sound high tech!

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (JKNDp)

46 A lefty peacenik disarmament push.

Or maybe take donations for said Occupy actions using a Russian credit card processor.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (FcR7P)

47 I got nothing. Pray for the best, expect the worst. The nation decided and the voted for decline. Reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (8SsiG)

48 A manual can opener.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (nkiQM)

49 How 'bout those Irish?

Posted by: Palandine at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (g7D8V)

50 17
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 10, 2012 09:23 PM (YwXwp) ******* Right-o. BTW, we have reached various tipping points, IMO, in terms of how little freedom we want. It is now OK to be sexually molested by the government to travel, according to the American people. We are in a giant prison camp.

Posted by: Baldy at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (opS9C)

51 Evening all

Posted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (hjEPZ)

52 Ohio Dan,

What about "The Franklin Fapper"?

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (Ohhk6)

53 All I need to do now is figure out how to profit off the stupidity of
the 52%, and do it all with grace and humor. And I have a plan. Well, I
have a plan to get a plan.

*****

there must be something akin to carbon-credits you can get into.


OOOOH!

Good-health credits.

Young folks can sell their Obamacare credits to the sick and elderly.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (piMMO)

54 Dan The Man.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (nkiQM)

55 Here is your pudding cartoon regarding the election. See link.


Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (X/+QT)

56 Dan Like Dinner.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (nkiQM)

57 Evening Mountain Turt.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (JKNDp)

58 All I need to do now is figure out how to profit off the stupidity of the 52%

Become a Democratic Senator, Rep, etc. Reid, Pelosi, Feinstein all seem to be doing quite well off the backs of their constituents.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (2rMmy)

59 The last thread sucked like no other.

It sucked harder than Paula Broadwell on a 'fact finding' mission to Afghanistan.

Posted by: Alex at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (HwgHt)

60 I'm going to try to get my legal species changed from homo sapien to polar bear. Sure it makes no sense and is obviously untrue, but it as equally untrue for those who go get their gender or age legally changed, and they allow them. Heck, they encourage the gender switcharoo these days. Then, after I become legally a polar bear, I'm not going to countenance being the first polar bear having to pay taxes. Can't take my bros down like that. And, I'm going to go the nearest huge Democrat mansion (scads of them around here) and declare it my new "habitat".

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (WcgMM)

61 le

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (JKNDp)

62 [The last thread sucked like no other.]It really sucked.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:29 PM (nkiQM)


Golf clap

Posted by: Ronster at November 10, 2012 09:32 PM (nQMHQ)

63 @23

I am coming to terms with the notion of Letting it Burn.

We have been literally compromising for 30 years by bending a little on this, moving a little left on that.

We have been told over and over if we were only a little more reasonable if we could just moderate our positions a little more if we could be just a little more bi-partisan we would be rewarded by the electorate.

Well the electorate has spoken and they have voted for Marxism, they have voted for statism. They have voted for higher taxes.

The people have voted, now they must suffer!

I say let them have it with both motherfucking barrels.

Get to work Boehner you lickspittle spineless motherfucker.


LET IT BURN!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:32 PM (0fxcV)

64 48
A manual can opener.


Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (nkiQM)

I have one of those, it's called a "womanual can opener".
(runs and ducks)

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 10, 2012 09:32 PM (Ohhk6)

65 I am going to open a bacon flavored pot cart in Seattle.

Posted by: robtr at November 10, 2012 09:32 PM (rTgOf)

66 How about them Tide......Heh!

Posted by: puddleglum at November 10, 2012 09:32 PM (8SsiG)

67 How about KY Dan? It is right next door, and the ky could also be lube.

Posted by: Museisluse at November 10, 2012 09:32 PM (SsWgR)

68 The last thread sucked like no other.

It sucked harder than Paula Broadwell on a 'fact finding' mission to Afghanistan.


****

LOL

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:33 PM (piMMO)

69

I'm thinking something along the lines of the Derek Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too. ......

Count me in, I've always wanted to write a book and I think you just hit the nail on the head!!! I can see it now. Chapter1..I read the recipe for cookies but forgot the flour. Chapter 2..I swept the floor but forgot the dustpan. Chapter 3 ..I'm a registered Republican but didn't vote.

Posted by: Molly k. at November 10, 2012 09:33 PM (CiTOH)

70 Am I the only one who's convinced that these pricks stole the election, and we can't do anything about it ?

Posted by: barrysux at November 10, 2012 09:33 PM (fHUFz)

71 Irish are looking good. How about a ND-Oregon national championship game?

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 09:33 PM (nD2pm)

72 I am going to open a bacon flavored pot cart in Seattle.


****

Sell it in bags with photos of Kate Upton on them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:34 PM (piMMO)

73 then imma goin to riot

Posted by: robtr at November 10, 2012 09:34 PM (rTgOf)

74 I think the thing that we as the Horde need to focus on is what we do best. So mockery, hotassery and circular firing squads ahoy!



In the spirit of comity and bipartisanship, I give you Chris Evans and Evan Rachel Wood. http://youtu.be/7K2GAoBTuc4


This comment brought to you by Miho. Miho - for all your kickass needs. http://youtu.be/RwyLbX4uOS0 (Dude. It's a Sin City clip. Of course it's NSFW)

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 09:35 PM (Gk3SS)

75 And now some mood music:


Leonard Cohen - The Future
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FzM_XrgtPo

Leonard Cohen - The Partisan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be60--LsAfEfeature=related

Talking Heads - Life During Wartime
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzORu1dqEE0

Posted by: that guy what has embraced the burnage at November 10, 2012 09:35 PM (nK2Sx)

76 ND is playing a shitty BC team. ND should have blown out a shitty Pitt team last week. I'm not sold on ND.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 10, 2012 09:35 PM (8SsiG)

77
General Wounwort @13-

Listen to Pat Buchanan?! Extremist!The Republicans have to be more moderate and inclusive, and attract more Hispanic voters! Our RNC betters have told us so!! Its the only way we can win elections!!!!1111!!!!!/sarc

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 10, 2012 09:35 PM (/NgNT)

78
Sell it in bags with photos of Kate Upton on them.


In a few more years she'll be past her prime, and you can probably get the bags sold by Kate Upton.

Fair warning, she will probably have been ridden hard and put through rehab a couple of times, but that shouldn't do too much damage.

Posted by: Alex at November 10, 2012 09:35 PM (HwgHt)

79 God I hate that Obama Pho woman.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 10, 2012 09:35 PM (i0App)

80 "Constitutionalists, the politically incorrect, and the like really need and deserve a homeland. A nation to call our own. We need a divorce from the statist bastards who run the show and will continue to do so. That's a foregone conclusion. You can't beat demographics."

We had that. It was called the USA. There were other places that were socialist shitholes elsewhere.

But socialists suck and they are jealous, so they destroyed the finest, most just, most generous nation the world had seen.

If another such nation ever arises, it must - by necessity - execute any citizen that ever suggests it is 'fair' to steal from the public coffers to give to someone else.

Else it too will be eventually destroyed.

Posted by: blindside at November 10, 2012 09:36 PM (2rf52)

81 Just wanted to take a moment and thank you nice people. The gallows humor of this comment section has done more to keep me sane than anything else since The Event.

Posted by: NotJaffo at November 10, 2012 09:36 PM (8S7Hd)

82 [Golf clap]
Thanks a lot.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:36 PM (nkiQM)

83 @70

Of course they stole the election.

There were some districts in Ohio that got 108% vote totals.

There were some wards in Philly where Obama recieved 100% of votes cast.

Not 90 or 95 but 100%


Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:37 PM (0fxcV)

84 But ND beat a good OK team in Norman, a good Stanford team and of course Michigan. They have some quality wins and last week was a let down game after beating OK.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 09:37 PM (nD2pm)

85 Irish are looking good. How about a ND-Oregon national championship game?

Don't they still have to play Central Michigan or some other gold-helmeted patsy? (I like NBC's Irish about as much as I like Hollywood's Trojans, if you can't tell.)

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 09:37 PM (FcR7P)

86 And for Caturday there are alot of abandoned cats in Israel linked in my sock. From Canadian bloggers Blazing Cat Fur and Five Feet of Fury who are holidaying in Israel.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:37 PM (nkiQM)

87 Cowboy at November 10, 2012 09:31 PM (WcgMM)

I have been quietly considering taping a horn to my head and demanding recognition as a unicorn.

I demand equal protection for those of us conflicted by our Trans-speciesism.

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (gh+mp)

88 Hey Ohio Dan

Sorry I don't have a new moniker for you.

Relocation?

Posted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (hjEPZ)

89 I am ashamed of Ohio so all variations of O(you fucked the country)hio are automatically rejected.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:24 PM (JKNDp)


The obvious choice is Go Blue!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (Gk3SS)

90 I would start a website called "You Can Never Have This"

It would show rich Democrats living large.

There would be a product line of cigarettes that had pictures and other info from the site on the package.

YCNHT

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (sRus3)

91


Never EVER be ashamed of this country. The shame falls on those who have harmed her so badly.
ALL of them.

I will continue to fight for her in whatever way necessary,until I no longer breathe.
If that brings scorn or dismissal,then tough shit. This is yet my land, no matter the circumstances.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (NGuNB)

92 I read today that Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA) was not re-elected. I think this is true, so yes, I feel better.

Alan Grayson made it back into the House, but he's just good advertising.


It looks like unemployment and gas prices are set to go up.

Then there are the rumors: Jarret's Revenge, and more than a few claims of voting irregularities (over 100% turnout in certain CO and FLA precincts, 99% for BO in one Philly precinct) ...

Benghazi just won't go away, and F & F is still waiting in the wings.

Is there a pool on impeachment proceedings yet?

I think 2014 will look like 2012, after major steroid use.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (KMLFi)

93 Krakatoa? Weirdly appropriate.

Posted by: otho at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (yBF/9)

94 Am I the only one who's convinced that these pricks stole the election, and we can't do anything about it ?

This was certainly true in some of the Colorado counties.

Really, more of us have to start boycotting elections. This last one was a farce.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (QTHTd)

95 83 I know.

What can we do about it with a crooked AG?

Posted by: barrysux at November 10, 2012 09:39 PM (fHUFz)

96 I linked this here a few weeks ago at the time of Felix Baumgartner's parachute jump.

It's a song called "Colonel Joe" by the British band Alphaspin.

The song fucking rocks, and the video is film of Joseph Kittinger's flight and jump in 1960.

You might recognize him. He was the old dude who served as Felix's capcom and sat next to him at the press conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcT8lKKpeXs

Posted by: rickl at November 10, 2012 09:39 PM (sdi6R)

97 64 48
A manual can opener.


Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 09:30 PM (nkiQM)

I have one of those, it's called a "womanual can opener".
(runs and ducks)


Hehehehehehe

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 10, 2012 09:39 PM (zkSgu)

98 Make a buck? The Obama Stash is real and it's spectacular. Form a non profit and start applying for grants. Pay yourself handsomely.

And use some of that grant money to form yourself an army to literally crack the skulls of democrats intent on stealing the next election.

And here's the shaedenfeudiest part: I'm going to make it an environmental organization, focused on returning the land to the control of local government rather than state and federal.

Not only is the an open-ended, Sisphyean project with no end date and no hope for success, it will lure lefty kids in to "save the environment" and by the way, elect republicans. Whoopsie!

That's my plan. What's yours?

Posted by: Truman North at November 10, 2012 09:39 PM (pVXUu)

99

No, no! We didn't lose, we wuz robbed!

Check out www.unskewed-elections.com......

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM (kdS6q)

100 Are we not in a similar position to those of the members of the Frankfurt School in the (1920s? 1930s?) who couldn't understand why Americans wouldn't buy their crap theories? So they had to have their long-term "march through the institutions" to destroy the then-existing order replace it? Aren't we in a better position, because we have seen that without outside support (as Cuba North Korea have enjoyed, albeit less so in recent decades, but still enough aid to stagger on), the systems inevitably fail? Is there anyone outside our economy that can prop it up? No. We are in a better position, we just need to start kicking, and keep kicking at the rotting foundations of prog society and pretty soon it will collapse from the weight of its economic unsustainability. We don't have the burden of trying to replace something strong, we only have to burrow like sappers and plan how to rebuild once the collapse comes.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM (+iYoq)

101 We got no shellacking at all.

The numbers are pretty much the same. We picked up some governorships and lost a couple of senate seats.

As far as Elizabeth Warren goes... Massachusetts will be punished plenty by having that idiot representing them.

Posted by: DavidM at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM (a0Tfj)

102 Wait, 103% turn out??? Do you have a source on that?

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM (nD2pm)

103 Oh, God, how I long for the fucking SMOD. Let it come and burn away my sorrow. With beautiful cleansing fire. If Iand all those Icare about have to dieto see all the liberals and various other trash die - they it's well worth it. Everything I love is already slated for nearly immediate destruction anyway. Can't even surf the damn investing web sites without seeing comments from leftards spiking the football. Fuck this noise.



Now, the big question is - do I quit saving for retirement and just spend everything now? Cuz if so, then maybe I can get a mistress... Oh - wait - I'd enjoy that, so no doubt the fucking fascists running this lunatic asylum would find a way to punish me for it.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM (jfeoD)

104 Check this out: http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

The cuckold husband outs himself anonymously. The comments are good, but end on July 16.

Excellent schadenfreude.

All the while I am paying for people who made bad decisions regarding their houses (I can't buy a new one because everyone with a bigger house than they can afford is getting my tax money to pay for their mistake).

Or why I am paying for GM union labor to still have jobs.

Posted by: MAJ O at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM (TwbSE)

105 Never EVER be ashamed of this country. The shame falls on those who have harmed her so badly.
ALL of them.

I will continue to fight for her in whatever way necessary,until I no longer breathe.
If that brings scorn or dismissal,then tough shit. This is yet my land, no matter the circumstances.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (NGuNB)



That was mighty nice, irongrampa.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:41 PM (2rMmy)

106
If another such nation ever arises, it must - by necessity - execute
any citizen that ever suggests it is 'fair' to steal from the public
coffers to give to someone else.



Else it too will be eventually destroyed.


We just need to understand that all nations are eventually destroyed. All human endevour eventually turns to dust. The key is to keep the principles that are good and righteous and carry them forward to rebuild.

Posted by: Alex at November 10, 2012 09:41 PM (HwgHt)

107 60
I'm going to try to get my legal species changed from homo sapien to polar bear.

**********

I'm considering renouncing my citizenship and having myself immediately declared an illegal alien.

Way I see it, I can live large on JQ Public's dime: no taxes, an EBT card, in-state tuition, subsidized housing, no need to get my car registered and insured, no need for a driver's license, free Obamaphone, "therapeutic" 72 inch plasma TV for my weak eyes, and Social Security payments from the identity(ies) I steal!

Woo hoo!



Posted by: Jim Sonweed at November 10, 2012 09:41 PM (YwXwp)

108 I am watching Scooby Doo for some laughs

Posted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:41 PM (hjEPZ)

109 Mmm. Frankfurter school.

Posted by: homer simpson at November 10, 2012 09:42 PM (nkiQM)

110 91


Never EVER be ashamed of this country. The shame falls on those who have harmed her so badly.
ALL of them.

I will continue to fight for her in whatever way necessary,until I no longer breathe.
If that brings scorn or dismissal,then tough shit. This is yet my land, no matter the circumstances.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (NGuNB)



Finally. Thank you irongrampa.


With your shield or on it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 09:42 PM (GEICT)

111 Doh!

Posted by: homer simpson at November 10, 2012 09:43 PM (nkiQM)

112
70 Am I the only one who's convinced that these pricks stole the election, and we can't do anything about it ?
Posted by: barrysux at November 10, 2012 09:33 PM (fHUFz)


I think it very possible that fraud was the deciding factor, but unlikely to have been the only one. But, yeah, I doubt we will ever know for sure.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 10, 2012 09:44 PM (DeRsD)

113 Lol. A coworker and I yesterday agreed that if we didn't have kids we'd full-on like to do a Slim Pickens and ride this fucker down to the ground. We both had the same feeling and the same cultural touchpoint.

We both have kids though so it ended up being kinda sad. The fight goes on I guess.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 09:44 PM (YxaXw)

114 She's got a nice set.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 10, 2012 09:44 PM (Iyg03)

115 @77
I have posted this before

Here is all you need to know about how doing another round of amnesty will go.

Presidential Voting History for California.

1968 - GOP.
1972 - GOP.
1976 - GOP.
1980 - GOP.
1984 - GOP.
1986 - Simpson/Mazzoli Amnesty Act Passes.
1988 - GOP.
1992 - DEM.
1996 - DEM.
2000 - DEM.
2004 - DEM.
2008 - DEM.
2012 - DEM.


California is now entirely Democrat and will never vote for another GOP President again
because of massive unchecked illegal immigration to that state.


This is the fate that awaits the country if we are stupid enough to
commit suicide but seeing as we have idiots in leadership positions and
within the ranks of the Conservative "intelligentsia" this seems the
likely outcome.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:44 PM (0fxcV)

116 "How about a ND-Oregon national championship game?"

Ahem!

Posted by: teej says go K-State & delurks for cfb at November 10, 2012 09:45 PM (PNi9V)

117 My G-d I wrote "we'd full-on like to". This election has truly farked my mind.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 09:45 PM (YxaXw)

118 Pose as Occupy freaks, get money from Ben and Jerry's, Hollyweird, porn industry, George Soros, all the rest of em. Then do something good with the money like buy guns, alcohol, seeds, and bunkers.

Posted by: L, just L at November 10, 2012 09:45 PM (0PiQ4)

119 The Soviet Union eventually became The Russian Federation and Stans R Us.

I sure hope we can do better than that.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 09:45 PM (sRus3)

120 80 If another such nation ever arises, it must - by necessity - execute any
citizen that ever suggests it is 'fair' to steal from the public
coffers to give to someone else.


All Socialists, Liberals, Communists, Muslims and other enemies of humanity should be executed. Painfully. I want to see that before the Mad Max world judges me useless and casts me out.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 10, 2012 09:46 PM (i0App)

121 I'm considering marketing a new Rahm a manual

can opener , think it's a win-win idea.

Posted by: seamrog at November 10, 2012 09:46 PM (fHUFz)

122
anyone else been getting calls from business associates saying they weren't going to do that thing they were going to do next year? I have got two.


Anyone getting calls from business associates saying they can't wait to do what they were thinking about doing or with a new idea? I haven't got any.


Except the bacon flavored pot cart. Imma pretty serious about that and rioting.

Posted by: robtr at November 10, 2012 09:46 PM (rTgOf)

123 "HO LEE SHIT! YOU FELLERS ARE HERE TO BOMB JOHN WAYNE'S HOUSE!"

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 10, 2012 09:46 PM (Uht19)

124 We need some ethics training, to toughen us up so we'll have a leveler playing field vs. the Democrats. So, when you see a baby, kick him in the face. Two kicks for girls,since Dems are into "genderselective services".Sure, it's not as good as outright killing them as Democrats love to do, but, hey. We gotta have some humanity!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 09:47 PM (WcgMM)

125 Sorry kstate fan, forgot about you guys :p BCS standings are going o be interesting this week.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 09:47 PM (nD2pm)

126 Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:44 PM (0fxcV)


I'd agree for the most part, but Perot got 25% of the vote in 92. The rest may well be illegals and a just a general overall swing, but 92 was Perot. And I voted for him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:47 PM (2rMmy)

127 Voter I.D.

Let's push it. Let's do everything we can to push it. The liberal disenfranchised will get mad, but who the hell cares if we are successful in getting this passed in as many states as possible? They won't be able to vote unless they do it legally.

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 09:47 PM (W5c4e)

128 <<anyone else been getting calls from business associates saying they
weren't going to do that thing they were going to do next year?>>

Nope. But as I posted on another thread, I live near a fairly new and very large industrial park. Some thirty major corporations were waiting to move in pending the election. Most of them will not now...

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 10, 2012 09:48 PM (Uht19)

129 Never EVER be ashamed of this country. The shame falls on those who have harmed her so badly.

ALL of them.



I will continue to fight for her in whatever way necessary,until I no longer breathe.

If that brings scorn or dismissal,then tough shit. This is yet my land, no matter the circumstances.


****

Amen.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:48 PM (piMMO)

130 Posted by: teej says go K-State & delurks for cfb at November 10, 2012 09:45 PM (PNi9V)



Hey! Stay de-lurked!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 09:48 PM (GEICT)

131 God Bless You Irongrampa !!!!!!

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 10, 2012 09:48 PM (zkSgu)

132 We all laugh at Obamapho, but you do realize that her, and people like her are now our leaders. The looters have won.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 09:48 PM (jucos)

133 Am I the only one who's convinced that these pricks stole the election, and we can't do anything about it ?

I think more about the 68% Soros Republicans loading us into the boxcars.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 09:48 PM (FcR7P)

134
I see no hope in the horizon. David the womanizer won't ever testifyon Benghazi and Obama the fraud will never be held accountable for anything, ever. Sooo.....New country, people. Only freedom loving states can join. Texas will of course be the capital.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks we should secede at November 10, 2012 09:49 PM (MtrZW)

135 I vow to not use the same moniker twice till I find something I like.

Posted by: Let's see what sticks Dan at November 10, 2012 09:49 PM (JKNDp)

136

We did so lose!

Check out www.unskewed-elections-unskewed.com......

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (kdS6q)

137 100: Dr. Julius: exactly.

It's not going to be easy going, but when was it, really?

Posted by: dantealiegri at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (mHU03)

138 116
"How about a ND-Oregon national championship game?"



Ahem!

Posted by: teej says go K-State delurks for cfb at November 10, 2012 09:45 PM (PNi9V)

Yes, you all are DISMANTLING my poor little Horned Frogs.... Collin Klein is an absolute BEAST! If I had a vote, he'd get mine for Heisman, followed by Johnny Football (who y'all can thank for taking out Bama!)Congrats - K-State is definitely for real!

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (JwW4z)

139 126 I'd agree for the most part, but Perot got 25% of the vote in 92. The rest may well be illegals and a just a general overall swing, but 92 was Perot. And I voted for him.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:47 PM (2rMmy)



Preciate that.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (GEICT)

140 All Socialists, Liberals, Communists, Muslims and other enemies of humanity should be executed. Painfully. I want to see that before the Mad Max world judges me useless and casts me out.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 10, 2012 09:46 PM (i0App)




AMEN AMEN AMEN! I would happily work 16 hour days, eating nothing but a thin gruel and sleeping next to the exectution apparatus, 7 days a week and 365 days a year, if only that could be my job.



Posted by: Reactionary at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (jfeoD)

141 Too bad we can't split California into 3 different states. The fact that ever D starts with a 55 vote head start in every election is bullshit.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (nD2pm)

142 "Then there are the rumors: Jarret's Revenge, and more than a few claims of voting irregularities (over 100% turnout in certain CO and FLA precincts, 99% for BO in one Philly precinct) ..."

It would be odd if there wasn't fraud in the Dems favor in Philly in any given election. Unless it was enough to make up a gap of 300,000 votes, though, it wouldn't have won us the state. I doubt it was enough.

"I think 2014 will look like 2012, after major steroid use."

Might. Might not. I don't like a tease. Obamacare starts to really kick in in the latter half of Obama's second term, so wake me up then.

Posted by: AD at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (qOojd)

143 108I am watching Scooby Doo for some laughsPosted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:41 PM (hjEPZ).....Me too, but for extra fun I have my turtle ncek and dikey glasses on. You wearing an ascot??

Posted by: Velma at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (CiTOH)

144 7 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp)
-
Ohio Pancho

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (u58W2)

145 Yep. Voter ID period. Who cares if it's a poll tax. How many poish people are voting illegally anyway.

Posted by: Let's see what sticks Dan at November 10, 2012 09:51 PM (JKNDp)

146 but 92 was Perot. And I voted for him.

Me, too. That was a painful lesson.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 09:51 PM (FcR7P)

147 I will continue to fight for her in whatever way necessary,until I no longer breathe.
If that brings scorn or dismissal,then tough shit. This is yet my land, no matter the circumstances.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 09:38 PM (NGuNB)

Irongramps, you are da bomb. They can take my country from my cold dead hands. I will do what ever it takes to make these asshats fail and then I will do everything I can to rebuild her stronger and better than before.
Or at least, I can bring cookies to the next meeting of ass-kickers.

Posted by: tcn at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (VLG62)

148 @126

I can see voting for Perot, I flirted with that myself but I knew it would split the vote and give Clinton the Presidency.

God I despise Clinton.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (0fxcV)

149 My lemon tree puts out larger lemons than the ones in the picture, nice lady.

Come over to my place if you want better lemons to squeeze.

>> Jebus. Was this supposed to lift the pall of half of my countrymen and wimmins?

Rushbabe, we do optimism next year. This year is pure gloom and doom.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (ccXZP)

150 Polish. Dam

Posted by: Dan can't type at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (JKNDp)

151 Evening from the salt mines. Stupid people make me work hard, but they also guarantee that I have work.

For Ohio Dan--I suggest Comradhio Dan.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (d7H2D)

152 Preciate that.
Posted by: Billy Jeff at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (GEICT)


Yea, I know. I was confessing my sins.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (2rMmy)

153 It's -1 deg. F with a wind chill of -16 deg F right now, and we have 12
in. of snow.

Good luck with that ground assault, fat boi.

Posted by: Chosin Few at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (0yCoM)

154 Too bad we can't split California into 3 different states. The fact that ever D starts with a 55 vote head start in every election is bullshit.Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 09:50 PM (nD2pm)I think some morons with crowbars could pry califoria into the pacific and make it it's own country.

Posted by: robtr at November 10, 2012 09:52 PM (rTgOf)

155 I am under contract until June. Then I may make changes, Galt like changes. I think we will need to watch each others' backs.

Posted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:53 PM (hjEPZ)

156 135
I vow to not use the same moniker twice till I find something I like.

Posted by: Let's see what sticks Dan at November 10, 2012 09:49 PM (JKNDp)

Isn't it obvious? Dan the Man.

Posted by: tcn at November 10, 2012 09:53 PM (VLG62)

157 Wonder how chemjeff's ice-skating is going?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:53 PM (2rMmy)

158 Libs try to shut down Applebees.

Chemjeff hardest hit.

http://tinyurl.com/a4fb6uy

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:53 PM (piMMO)

159 You can take away my country. Just don't mess with my tampons. Oh...and my skinny jeans.

Posted by: Kaylee on Twitter at November 10, 2012 09:53 PM (vbh31)

160 Let's have reverse secession - kick all the blue states out - or manufacture a couple of earthquakes - and retake our country!

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (JwW4z)

161 Seriously, the only way you will make money is to get a government contract or sell a product that the government will pay for for the Takers.

The worlds richest man became richer by doing just that with the free phone debacle.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (cDwCa)

162 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp)
-----------------------------------------------------
Ohiopho

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (jucos)

163
Isn't it obvious? Dan the Man."
.
.
Is it showing?

Posted by: Dan can't wear tight pants/ at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (JKNDp)

164 It's like we're in a zombie or vampire flick.

Outnumbered and surrounded by the other.

But we wonder what to do to win.

Posted by: seamrog at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (fHUFz)

165
Economics, how does it f'ing work?



COPENHAGEN — Denmark said Saturday it would scrap a fat tax it
introduced a little over a year ago in a world first, saying the measure
was costly and failed to change Danes' eating habits.
"The fat
tax and the extension of the chocolate tax -- the so-called sugar tax --
has been criticised for increasing prices for consumers, increasing
companies' administrative costs and putting Danish jobs at risk," the
Danish tax ministry said in a statement.
"At the same time it is
believed that the fat tax has, to a lesser extent, contributed to Danes
travelling across the border to make purchases," it added.
"Against
this background, the government and the (far-left) Red Green Party have
agreed to abolish the fat tax and cancel the planned sugar tax," the
ministry said.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (PHb2k)

166 We can all become community organizers....

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 09:55 PM (JwW4z)

167 "7 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?"

How' bout "the commenter formerly known as Ohio Dan"?

Sorry it still has Ohio in it.

Posted by: Mindy at November 10, 2012 09:55 PM (6jLT3)

168 Is it showing?

Posted by: Dan can't wear tight pants/ at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (JKNDp)

You were wearing pants? You know this is the ONT, right?

Posted by: tcn at November 10, 2012 09:55 PM (VLG62)

169 I made it to the ont,,,,,,,,,I am sick as a dog and not even funny with my socks. I looked forward all day to participate but now I don't think I can. Nite all

Posted by: Velma at November 10, 2012 09:55 PM (CiTOH)

170 164 It's like we're in a zombie or vampire flick.

Outnumbered and surrounded by the other.

But we wonder what to do to win.

Posted by: seamrog at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (fHUFz)



We are not outnumbered. Two thirds of registered R's sat at home and we still got 48% of the vote.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at November 10, 2012 09:56 PM (GEICT)

171 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp)
-------------------------------------------------------
Dantastic

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 09:56 PM (jucos)

172 At least I can come home from Iraq now, this place sucks.

Posted by: Kevin OReilly at November 10, 2012 09:56 PM (hrAg/)

173 Are we not in a similar position to those of the members of the Frankfurt School ... We don't have the burden of trying to replace something strong, we only have to burrow like sappers and plan how to rebuild once the collapse comes.

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 10, 2012 09:40 PM

True, but, arson is easier than building. Plus, they were allowed to act largely with impunity. The few and far between attempts to restrain them were mostly ineffective. They were, after a relatively brief time, allowed to do whatever they wanted, even with their goals known. With the shoe on the other foot, they will know what they have to do and they will do it.

Posted by: otho at November 10, 2012 09:56 PM (yBF/9)

174 Dantana?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:57 PM (piMMO)

175 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 09:53 PM (piMMO)


Behold the genius of Liberals. If they drive them out of business, thousands of people will lose their jobs.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 09:57 PM (2rMmy)

176 Hi Teej!

Check your true north email

Posted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:57 PM (hjEPZ)

177 Every fucking time.

*sigh*


/sock off

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 09:57 PM (GEICT)

178 Danderful

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 09:58 PM (jucos)

179 "Waaah- HOOOO0000000ooooooooooo.......!"
"Shoot, that's the purdiest H-bomb I ever seen!"

Posted by: Thorvald at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (1V6Pv)

180 Plan:

1) Orient yourself. Figure out where your vulnerabilities to the new state of affairs are. Chances are you are not as bad off as you might have thought. But you also have some unique challenges in the 401k. Stop whining about what could have been, and figure out what your strengths and weaknesses are.

2) Obama-proof your income. Honestly evaluate yourself and figure out what you have to do to make sure that whoever is in the 18% of un- and under-employed, it ain't you.
a) Are you where you need to be at work? If they have to let someone go, would it be you? Make sure you are not the first one fed to the alligator. If you can use an Obamaphile as a buffer between you and the gator, so much the better.
b) If you were let go, do you have an alternative job? Have you kept up your network? Ideally, the day they let you go is the day you walk into a new job. How close are you to that ideal?
c) Take a look at your assets, especially 401ks, and IRAs. Do you know ALL the rules for your 401k plan? Do you know where it is invested? Have you let your investment strategy get rusty?

3) Stop feeding the beast.
a) Enlist the help of good CPAs and investment counselors to make sure you are not paying more taxes than you should. Tax avoidance is NOT tax evasion.
b) Evaluate where you donate your money. Is it contributing to some organization that does not share your values? Cut it off.
c) Stop throwing so much of your paycheck at the entertainment industry. Figure out how to amuse yourself instead.

4) Get what you can. Take full advantage of benefits that you are required to pay for with your taxes.

5) Focus on local and state government. These levels affect your life more, and you have a better chance to affect them. Find individuals in your community that have the potential to become good elected officials and support them NOW.

6) Profit off of blue state. Is there a service or product that you can provide cheaper/better than Ohio or Michigan? Do it.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (gsPPG)

181 132 We all laugh at Obamapho, but you do realize that her, and people like her are now our leaders. The looters have won.
-
Correct.

You are being taxed so that there will be more of her and less of you.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (u58W2)

182 Dantastic

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 09:56 PM (jucos)

That sounds mighty pron.

Posted by: tcn at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (VLG62)

183 The Tide falls to Texas A&M to complete my week of suckage.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (QupBk)

184 7
I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?

----------

Your name's not Bruce, then?

Posted by: Bruce at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (1c58W)

185 It wasn't the message. They heard the fucking message. They REJECTED the message.

They don't understand what's coming because they never learned history (thank you union/democrat dominated public schools).

Thus they are condemned to repeat it. The thing that makes us so mad is that they're dragging us with them.

Let's not discuss how we'll do this or that next election. Cause unless someone here has a couple billion in their bank account (I'd move that to the Caymans, stat.) we're not going to change a fucking thing in this country.

I know some don't want to hear that but face reality, we're not coming back in recognizable form from this. No country ever has.

The smart thing to do is trade ideas on how to protect yourself and your loved ones from the coming avalanche. where to go, what to do. what they might have planned and what can be done to mitigate it.

Let's stop with the mutual masturbation circle jerk discussions that some seem to delight in here (myself included) and get down to reality and some brass tacks.

Stop relying or thinking you can rely on anyone in DC. You can't. even if they recognized the danger same as you do, there's little THEY can do about if they wanted to. They may see it but don't care as they figure they can protect their little corner.

That's the attitude to have. I've watched the Republicans dither and bitch and moan for 52 years and 1994 and 2010 convinced me their lying. They secretly admire the Democrats they want to be them when they grow up. They want the power and to be able to stand up to bullshit bluffers and win. but they're stuck being what they are because of demographics in their region or because they know the Democrats wouldn't have them.

Republicans are like the team the Harlem Globe trotters drags around with them so they have someone to play off of. It's called the second banana. The guy that gets the pie in the face and the white wash down his pants. The butt of the joke.

You can't say you won if you didn't have an opponent. If the Repubs didn't exist, the Democrats would have to invent them. (and who's to say they didn't?)

Recall the matrix. As long as there's a choice, most will accept the program. Some will make the choice to oppose but the program has a sub program to balance that equation out.

We're the lost fucking hope to attract the rebels and revolutionaries so that they can be controlled and made useful but impotent.

That's right guys; we're fucking impotent. has nothing about the last 11 years sunk in. We took a hit to a couple buildings and it's taken us 11 years to rebuild what originally took 2. That's a measure of how low we've sunk. We've been coopted and deballed and all with our willing cooperation. It's too late to fight through normal channels.

The only path left is to survive and await the collapse so as to rebuild. But that collapse can be delayed years and years maybe centuries. It's happened. It will happen somewhere again.

Anyone wants to discuss what we should've done or what we can do can go ahead. Take it from me the time for working within the system is over. They OWN the system.

I don't mean to be such a downer or rain on anyone's parade. Neither am I depressed or despairing. There is hope. It's just not with all night discussions about our fucking messaging.

This ain't Red Dawn.

This ain't a movie.

This. is. real.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (SP4jC)

186 Guy Mohawk, that story sounds like a hoax. It mentions abolishing a tax, and I just don't think that's believable.

Posted by: Mindy at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (6jLT3)

187 Somewhere, Cindy Sheehan sits by a phone that will never ring.

Posted by: NotJaffo at November 10, 2012 10:00 PM (8S7Hd)

188 I'm with you, Krak.

I'm thinking: 1. Change my registration to Democrat. 2. Join some kind of radical gay group and get on TV protesting how butt-hurt I am. 3. Find out what it takes to pass as Native American. 4. Start business as a painting contractor. 5. Bid on every government contract I can find. 6. Make the job as expensive as I possibly can. And 7. Do the shittiest work I can get by with.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:00 PM (IoNBC)

189 Ohio and Florida and Penn. all states with massive fraud,all with GOP Sec of States asleep at the wheel

Posted by: Jack J at November 10, 2012 10:00 PM (v/itI)

190 in re: can openers: go yea therefore to the nearest Army-Navy store and get a handful of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-38_can_opener

g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 10:00 PM (JMmQ9)

191 This happened because we lost the culture war.

We need to stop thinking about how we as conservatives can elect conservative politicians and more on how we as conservatives can instill conservative values into the populace in general.

The reason why Liberals are voted for is because we haven't yet done that. Free stuff is always a nicer alternative to a scary conservative. People don't realize what we stand for. Our voices have been drowned out completely. We have to fix that.

Posted by: chaz at November 10, 2012 10:00 PM (sSNkG)

192 "Let's push it. Let's do everything we can to push it. The liberal disenfranchised will get mad, but who the hell cares if we are successful in getting this passed in as many states as possible? They won't be able to vote unless they do it legally."

there was definitely some fraud...there's always fraud, and i suspect always a lot more from the dems than from the republicans.

there wasn't anywhere near enough fraud to steal the election, tho...we lost this one on our own by putting up a rich, white banker...and people never came around to thinking our candidate could care about folks like them.

the class warfare stuff was a lot more effective than political junkies like us, who are in tune with all the issues and substantive talking points, could have foreseen.

i think the problem isn't so much with illegal voting...it's with bussing the inner-city "unlikely" voters to the polls in a van full of malt liquor for all comers. if dems can keep the black turnout where it's been for the past 2 prez elections, we're gonna have it rough going!

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:01 PM (79EF9)

193 Start a rumor company.

You spread rumors and people buy "rumor stock" that has no real value except in how much it can grow and force changes in the real world.

Maybe that exists already?

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:01 PM (sRus3)

194
This time the USDA delayed its release nine days past the semi-official
deadline, far past the election, and until Friday night to report August
foodstamp data. One glance at the number reveals why: at 47.1 million, this was not only a new all time record, but the monthly increase of 420,947 from July was the biggest monthly increase in one year.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 10, 2012 10:01 PM (PHb2k)

195 I despised Clinton, too. But I gotta say he's looking pretty good in hindsight. Bubba was still, culturally, an American. And a pragmatist, even if a left-leaning one. He held on to American values.Obama's cold, foreign feeling, and a committed ideologue. When Obama says he wants transformational change, he really means it. He doesn't hold traditional American values, he rejects them.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 10:01 PM (WcgMM)

196 Comment 100 hits the nail on the head. Leading Conservative bloggers like Ace, Michelle Malkin, Glenn Reynolds, and the like need to help get us organized. We literally need to take pages out of there own books.

Our first step needs to be to yank the school systems in Red States hard right. We do that by have our Conservative controlled Legislature step in and rewrite the curriculum for the school systems. We then need to use any deviation from that as grounds for instant termination. Use Texas as a model one state school board period. Have Conservative kids police the teachers and let the teachers know that we have spies watching them.

Second we need to really push the taxing Hollywood until they collapse. As you all know I do a lot of posting on a very left leaning site called Spacebattles. I brought this idea up and amazingly they are all for it. Which brings us to our third goal.

These factions that make up the left's coalition will turn on themselves easily enough if we just push the right buttons.

We could start with the Unions. Right now insurance companies will have to use most of the money they bring in on the people who buy insurance. We need to make dues the same way, and make sure that lobbying or GOTV or other political activities don't count. That will turn the rank and file against the leadership hard and fast and take away a source of funding for the left.

Next we need to go into serious economic slowdown mode. We need to start this right now with the goal of putting a serious crimp in the Christmas season.

Lets get these bastards derailed and fast.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at November 10, 2012 10:02 PM (ZIWkB)

197 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions? Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp) ------------------------------------------------------- Dantastic
Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 09:56 PM (jucos)

Dan withthe Albatross Ohio around his neck

Kidding of course

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 10, 2012 10:02 PM (/7Xis)

198 Never EVER be ashamed of this country.

Preach on!

Posted by: Moochelle at November 10, 2012 10:02 PM (YxaXw)

199 I'm not going to pretend to have some sort of deep insight into all the things that added up to another Obama term. Frankly, I think the best answer is probably a little bit of "all of the above".

Bottom line though? We are not the country we thought we were. As has been pointed out by pointier heads than mine, we lost the cultural battle for the electorate long ago, and have made little noticeable improvement on that front since 1984.


I disagree. In my opinion you're reading stuff into this election that isn't there. If you do that, you won't be able craft an effective countermeasure. We need to understand what really happened if we're going to win elections in the future.

All you have to do is look at the exit polling. Americans still want the same things they always wanted: jobs, a strong economy, a strong defense, a responsible president, lower taxes, and a smaller government.

The problem in this particular election was that the electorate didn't trust Romney to follow through on his promises. They came to that conclusion because of Romney's "47 percent" comment, which was distorted effectively by the Democrats, and by the summer-long ad blitz that the Democrats used to define Romney. Finally, Romney's own changing history made him an ultimately fatally flawed candidate.

Also, the jobless stats were cooked; the number of people on food stamp was hidden; corporations were threatened into not laying people off until after the election; and the press refused to tell the public what Obama's policies have in store for them.

If, after four more years of Obama, a Democrat gets elected president, then I'll agree with you that we've changed. But in this election, the voting public had vital information withheld from it and also chose to believe what it wanted to hear rather than what it should've seen with its own eyes and ears.

Still, there's not doubt that Romney made a series of fatal mistakes. I saw a poll today that showed 11 percent of Tea Parties supported Obama because they didn't trust Romney.

In 1988 Reagan won 49 states, including insanely blue states, because people believed he stood for something. They knew what they were getting with him. They felt Romney didn't stand for anything, so they went with Obama--narrowly--because they knew what he stood for and they didn't know how horrible his policies have been. They voted for the status quo out of fear of the unknown.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:02 PM (GBHrM)

200 Not to go all "Lileks" but please change the comment text box font back to what it was before.

I fcukin' hate the calibri font

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 10:03 PM (JMmQ9)

201 I remember reading once in a sci fi short story (I think it was), how in a possible future, man went to the stars and colonized other worlds. But wherever humanity went , the United States went , Old Glory left earth and went on like an Olympic flame to relight liberty's torch from world to world.

The author wrote in the narration of the story that the United States would always continue despite being thought destroyed by it's enemies over and over because " the United States isn't a place, it is an idea."


I have been thinking a lot about that story lately.

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 10, 2012 10:03 PM (EZl54)

202 West of Pennsylvania Dan ... HTH

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 10:04 PM (gh+mp)

203 We are going back to England....

Pre-Thatcher England.

Posted by: tasker at November 10, 2012 10:04 PM (r2PLg)

204 52 What about "The Franklin Fapper"?

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Fap on! Fap off! The fapper!

Posted by: Anachronda, who's old enough that the memory is starting to go at November 10, 2012 10:04 PM (1c58W)

205 71
Irish are looking good. How about a ND-Oregon national championship game?
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F that, ND should never again play in a championship game until they start playing a schedule not a candyassed one...
KSU deserves a shot, they have earned it....................

Posted by: Yes I Am at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (oc9hK)

206 Dangling Dan.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (nkiQM)

207
George W Beagle's mom....that's even better.

Just can't stop thinking about this: Alan Grayson again, DWS again, an onslaught of new lib women, Elizabeth Dances with Wolves, no Allen West, no Mia Love....the 113th Congress is going to suck ass.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks we should secede at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (MtrZW)

208 Posted by: Sweet Lou at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM (gsPPG)



Good stuff Sweet Lou. I'd add that you should be sure to consider your contacts among your assets. There may be people who can help you hide assets, income, and transactions. Use those people to help you hide what you've got and get.

I'd also suggest looking into non-US assets to invest in. Not all economies are as doomed to recession/depression as ours. Even many third world nations are stable enough to make money in without undue worry. Also, look into expatriation. The fact is that eventually the Libs will have enough power that they're going to become totally lawless, and come after us to rob us. It's going to be like what the Nazis did to the Jews - steal everything. They may not murder many of us outright, but they'll rob us if they can.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (jfeoD)

209 Posted by: Mindy at November 10, 2012 09:59 PM

Ha! I know, right? shocking. And its the reason I do want a billionaire wealth tax of 50%. Reality is a bitch.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (PHb2k)

210 Husband is being told his job could be gone by the end of the year. I teach school, so we are in a world of hurt if that happens. We are beside ourselves with fear as we have two little ones. My revulsion for so many in our country is overwhelming right now.

Posted by: Jmel at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (c+D8V)

211 Alright, every thread lately seems to circle back to the same thing. Let's talk about something...fun.


I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (GEICT)

212 South Michigan Dan

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 10:06 PM (JMmQ9)

213 143 108I am watching Scooby Doo for some laughsPosted by: Mountainturtle at November 10, 2012 09:41 PM (hjEPZ).....Me too, but for extra fun I have my turtle ncek and dikey glasses on. You wearing an ascot??

I'm going with the purple outfit to try out my new skills

Posted by: Daphne at November 10, 2012 10:06 PM (hjEPZ)

214 Two thirds of registered R's sat at home and we still got 48% of the vote.

That tells you it was our candidate, not a massive swing toward leftism in the country, that cost us the election.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:06 PM (GBHrM)

215 On the front page of punditpress.com, specifically at
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/allen-west-on-recount-we-win-by-195.html ,

there is a story that Allen West won his recount by about 195 votes. Any other confirmation?



Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 10:07 PM (KMLFi)

216 Alright you Morons and Moronettes it is time to snap out of it and snap to!

This nation has survived the British (twice), civil war, Wilson, WW's I and II, FDR, JFK, Carter and Clinton and we'll survive Osamabozo. We've always had slackers and freeloaders and we always will.

After four years Obozo is out the door and who do the Libtards have waiting? Joe Biden! Are you shitting me?!? HillBillary? Really?

Look, we got the House and we gained in it so I say we fight and obstruct and all the while scream "Dissent is patriotic!" and we give no ground on anything.

After the France fell in 1940 Hitler offered Britain peace. The British responded by sinking the French fleet (their allies just a few days ago) to keep it out of "Jerry's" hands. After the debacle at New York did George Washington surrender? No he hauled ass out to regroup and continue. He even considered waging a guerrilla war in the Appalachians. This is what we do, we obstruct and obstruct and obstruct and we get candidates who are not RHINOS - and let's face it Romney is a RHINO (can we say governor of Mass.!).

We need not worry about four years from now, we need only worry about two years from now. We increase the House advantage and shoot for a tie in the Senate. Give them a dose of their own medicine!

Posted by: The Man From Athens at November 10, 2012 10:07 PM (RXQ2T)

217 @199

Bullshit!

Nobody who defines themselves as a Tea Party Patriot would ever, EVER vote for Obama.

Abstain yes, vote for NEVER!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (0fxcV)

218 OK- hi mountain turtle. That won't get to me. Not in that band. Played with the frontman for 4 years in a 3 piece in the mid nineties. Back together again.
I put that link up as a friend and a way to get some good music to folks who appreciate their varied stuff.

Posted by: teej says go K-State & delurks for cfb at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (3R0Zs)

219 There's always a need for vendors. When North Koreans are eating tree bark soup, there's a vendor over there selling tree bark. And they actually do have shit sellers -- They have people go out and collect human shit, and sell it as fertilizer.

Shit and tree bark -- the basis of any sound economy.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (ccXZP)

220 I'll concede power to the Dems, let them fuck it up.

The scalps that I desperately want are those of the Media and the Hollywood Left. The elitist hacks that brought about this shit and the wealthy fucktards that define hypocrisy. If they can be brought low than I will be satisfied.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (YxaXw)

221 I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.


Mossberg.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (Gk3SS)

222 Alton Jackson!

I did not know that ...

the can opener thingie

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (gh+mp)

223
That tells you it was our candidate, not a massive swing toward leftism in the country, that cost us the election.




My point exactly. And one of the many reasons why I hate the "LIB" crap.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (GEICT)

224 By the way.
Nice pic.! Great boobehs!

Posted by: The Man From Athens at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (RXQ2T)

225 On the front page of punditpress.com, specifically at

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/allen-west-on-recount-we-win-by-195.html ,



there is a story that Allen West won his recount by about 195 votes. Any other confirmation?


****

the recount of ~30k early-vote ballots takes place at 0700 tomorrow morning

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (piMMO)

226 Adriane, if you are here sorry I was a b word to you last night. No excuse. My nerves are close to shot.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (2Nzn8)

227 NDH (in re the 3 word story thread)



I don't mind that you kept trying to jack the thread but you kept doing
it with stuff that I really don't see the point in discussing today or
any day.



If you take my tirade as a personal attack on you, I'm sorry. It wasn't
meant to be so I'll be a man and apologize for what I said even though I
didn't mean for it to be taken as a personal attack.



I did not however curse you as you have just done nor did I make any comments about you personally.



So maybe you've got some inner rage you ought to resolve too.



Let bygones be bygones. If that's not the case then that's YOUR problem.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 10, 2012 10:09 PM (SP4jC)

228 there is a story that Allen West won his recount by about 195 votes. Any other confirmation?

It was just a precinct recount, a test case, I guess. Now they have to redo the entire district.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 10:09 PM (FcR7P)

229 The Danninater.

Dan-arama.

The Danster.

Dan-O-Mite!

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (sRus3)

230 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions? Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp)

Danook of the North.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (IoNBC)

231 211, Benelli M1 Super 90, no compromises. You should be able to get a used one for $800. Think of it as a legal SMG.

Posted by: Kevin OReilly at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (hrAg/)

232 I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.

Ammo will be priced out of existence. You need an old fashioned projectile weapon. Now, longbow or crossbow?

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (YxaXw)

233
"Still, there's not doubt that Romney made a series of fatal mistakes. I saw a poll today that showed 11 percent of Tea Parties supported Obama because they didn't trust Romney."

Doubt they were drinking the same tea as Sarah Palin or other Tea Partiers. Probably drinking some strongly flavored tea-coffee. Plus, too many tea partiers I've talked to hate the idea of giving up their goodies or having to cut back on their government free shit. Seriously, there are people who like the tea party and sit home on their asses looking for a hand-out.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks we should secede at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (MtrZW)

234 @211

The only shotgun you will ever need is a Remington 870.

Combine that with some Federal Black Cloud steel shot and you have yourself the worlds best home defender.

It's good against Zombies as well.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (0fxcV)

235 221 I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.

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Mossberg.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (Gk3SS)




Mossberg has about a thousand models.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (GEICT)

236 Here is a suggestion that is quite good. It is not mine, but comes from the Campaign for Primary Accountability (http://tinyurl.com/b7rtnxc). Check them out for greater detail, but the idea is this: get involved in local primaries. That's where elections are really determined. Get involved in the one for the dominant party in your area. So, if you live a blue district, get involved in the Democrat primary. If you livein a blue district, don't bother with the GOPprimary (waste of time). Live ina red district, don'tbother with the Dems, etc. Support the candidate (even the Dem, even the GOP) who is, preferrably, NOT the incumbent. Get out the vote, in the primary, for your guy. Again, check out the website for the background on how this strategy got developed and what's the rationale behind it. It is quite compelling.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (WcgMM)

237 I recommend the 10 ga. sawed off.

Posted by: Ronster at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (nQMHQ)

238 171 I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?

Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 10, 2012 09:19 PM (JKNDp)
-----------------------------------


Emancipated Dan?

By the way, it wasn't your whole state. The southern red counties turned out for Romney at record pace and at 65-35 or better.

Posted by: Truman North at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (I2LwF)

239 "Have Conservative kids police the teachers and let the teachers know that we have spies watching them."

oooh, i like this idea!!!

what with all of the 1984-esque nonsense about teaching kids to snitch on "unpatriotic" neighbours and parents, it's a fantastic idea to put a little pressure back on the indoctrinators themselves! surprised more people haven't talked about it!

we do need to get our ideas into the schools. i'm a little wary with letting the legislatures draft forcible (and enforceable) curricula, tho...we have republican politicians talking about how embryology and big-bang cosmoly are "lies from the pit of hell", so we have to keep in mind that some of our more ardently populist red-state pols have a bad habit of putting their feet all the way down their throats at times like these ~.~

most importantly, conservative parents need to teach their children to have an open mind and approach *everything* they are taught with a healthy scepticism...to synthesise everything they know and draw their own conclusions, rather than simply accept the liberal logic at face value. that's something that parents can start doing now while we figure out how to make sure conservative economics and histories are integrated into our textbooks.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (79EF9)

240 The only shotgun you will ever need is a Remington 870.
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THIS

Posted by: Yes I Am at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (oc9hK)

241 @231

What are a member of the 1%?

Who the hell can afford a bennelli?

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (0fxcV)

242
My thoughts? Fraud. There was a twitter post made to #obama2012 claiming that 10 million votes were hacked/switched and if the Repubs didn't bother to do anything about it this time -when it was so blatant - they'd never win another election.

I saw unprecedented turn out in my district. Funny that the number of Republican votes finally tallied was sub-normal. Note that we lost the overall election by about70,000 votes.

Posted by: Galen Slade at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (U0hD8)

243 Link from the Washington-Times

http://tinyurl.com/ae3czwk

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (piMMO)

244 Second we need to really push the taxing Hollywood until they collapse. As you all know I do a lot of posting on a very left leaning site called Spacebattles. I brought this idea up and amazingly they are all for it. Which brings us to our third goal.


Been saying this all along. Reforming the tax code in a major way would get some attention quick-like. I don't mean raising rates even; the loopholes have got to go. I mean, studios write all kinds of things off as a loss....I mean somehow whoever did Star Wars doesn't have to pay people like they guy who played Darth Vader because it hasn't technically made a profit. WTF? It's a pretty good flag for the GOP; they could us eit as proof they aren't just always for the rich.

These factions that make up the left's coalition will turn on themselves easily enough if we just push the right buttons.

Oh hell yea. Pass the popcorn.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (2rMmy)

245 Holy shit. Amazing interception and runback just now by LSU.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (Gk3SS)

246 Building on the above, Dan-o-Might!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (nkiQM)

247 Bullshit!

Nobody who defines themselves as a Tea Party Patriot would ever, EVER vote for Obama.

Abstain yes, vote for NEVER!


That's not what the exit polling says.

http://tinyurl.com/afq9oru

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:12 PM (GBHrM)

248 That was me at 231.

A single precinct was off by 195 votes?

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 10:13 PM (hrAg/)

249 Another money-making idea:

Make little Founding Father dolls and sell them to Glenn Beck's audience.

Jackpot!

Posted by: L, just L at November 10, 2012 10:13 PM (0PiQ4)

250
Mossberg.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM (Gk3SS)

Just when I thought I couldn't possibly hold AtC in higher regard, she posts this.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:13 PM (IoNBC)

251 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:13 PM (u58W2)

252 No one should give up quite yet. Oh, this doesn't mean I'm confident of victory (well, I am, but that doesn't mean anything). I see all the obstacles. I have no conventional path forward for the politicos to go execute.

But...here's the deal--if we have already lost, then we lose nothing more by continuing to fight. We don't get sent to a desert island, we don't get liquidated, and we already suffer career damage anyway. But we lose nothing more. So, let's just keep fighting for exactly what we believe in, and don't change a thing. And, if by chance, circumstaces hand us an opportunity, we are in a position to take it. If not, we still ave lost nothing, for we had nothing. And, we might enjoy it, doing it for the love of the game--the happiest, most obnoxious, most refusing to submit to tyranny bunch there ever was. The Band of Brothers.

The other side *might* have won a realignment. Let's see if they can keep it. Hitler couldn't. I don't think these guys will either, once tne threat of "evil Christ-doers wanting to inade you bedroom" fades from being realistic.

Fight. Libertatem Resurgit.

Posted by: A. at November 10, 2012 10:14 PM (88erC)

253 @235

I do not like the action or hold of any Mossberg.


Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:14 PM (0fxcV)

254 I'm going to sell a ton of oregano in CO.

Posted by: Soona at November 10, 2012 10:15 PM (h8o92)

255 "Still, there's not doubt that Romney made a series of fatal mistakes. I saw a poll today that showed 11 percent of Tea Parties supported Obama because they didn't trust Romney."

saw that too...i saw it at hot air.

the analysis seemed right on time, too; along the lines of what i've been saying since the hard loss rolled in tuesday night, putting up a right, white banker with privileged family connections just four years after the 2008 crisis -- for which rich white nepostistic bankers remain the public's main bogeyman! -- was a pretty imbecilic attempt to draw voters away from the feel-good rhetoric of a the transcendental cardboard cutout who "cares". ~.~

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (79EF9)

256 247 Anyone can claim to be a tea partier. Doesn't mean they are active in the tea party or support all tea party principles. And those that do, never supported conservatives in the first place.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks we should secede at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (MtrZW)

257 Hi all!

back from my gala! I get to take this formal gown off and put the stompy boots on.

Also, don't keep tigers. They will eat you.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (ou/rY)

258 @247

Then they are either maniacs, liars or Tea Party Patriot doesn't mean what they think it means.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (0fxcV)

259 Omega Dan.

Posted by: tasker at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (r2PLg)

260 Let bygones be bygones. If that's not the case then that's YOUR problem.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 10, 2012 10:09 PM (SP4jC)


*****
First: If you were so invested in that thread that the few of us having fun at your expense offended you, well....Second: Someone on Twitter asked whether I had the letter and I responded that I would. When I could not find it I resorted to asking the question on only active thread.As for my cursing, if you couldn't simply ignore my question or reply with an answer instead of a rant, then my response was perfectly in line.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (piMMO)

261 Adriane, yeah, the P-38 is a great little tool.

A word to the wise: if you put one on your keyring (and carry your keys in your pocket) tape it "shut". The pointy part will draw blood on your thigh or your "tender parts".

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (JMmQ9)

262 211

If you are looking for a shotgun now you are 4 years too late. Mossberg or Remington. Or because you are so late, go to wallyworld and get the cheapest you can find. Don't forget the shells.

Posted by: MAJ O at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (TwbSE)

263 I'd kill for a Benelli, but I'd probably settle for a Remington 870.

Posted by: crowsting at November 10, 2012 10:17 PM (yNhZJ)

264 That tells you it was our candidate, not a massive swing toward leftism in the country, that cost us the election.


My point exactly. And one of the many reasons why I hate the "LIB" crap.


The good news is that with better candidates, we can win. As someone said when it comes to defending yourself, "Less Karl Rove; more Lee Atwater."

It's Roves brilliant idea to never defend yourself. He infected Bush with it. His super-PAC had a 1-percent success rate in this election.

Can we all agree that Karl's day has come and gone?

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:17 PM (GBHrM)

265 All I need to do now is figure out how to profit

"Medical" marijuana. Free on Election Day to anyone with poll-watcher credentials.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 10:17 PM (FcR7P)

266 Invade, not inade. The "v" was added by Scipio Africanis in recognition of the defeat of Hannibal at Zama. My story, at any rate.

Posted by: A. at November 10, 2012 10:18 PM (88erC)

267 Mossberg has about a thousand models.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (GEICT)


Well, yes, but then we're back to going to actually handle them to see what works best for you. I like the various Flex models in general but it depends if you want a short barrel or not.
As noted above, you won't go wrong with Remington.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:18 PM (Gk3SS)

268 For what it's worth - it looks like Perry is taking an early swipe at POTUS. Hope he spends a lot of time polishing his debate style and sticking to O every chance he gets.

"
“The
American people have given President Obama a chance to start over. He
can take steps this time to govern responsibly. He can work with, not
against, Republicans in Congress and governors around the nation. He can
put an end to his reckless disregard for our rule of law and spare our
nation another long, painful and expensive four years for American
families, taxpayers and employers.

We must hold his and
Congress’ feet to the fire to once and for all cut spending, repeal
Obamacare and withdraw federal encroachment into state decision-making
and personal liberties. Our nation’s long-term prosperity and security
absolutely depends on it.

Meanwhile, states have the
opportunity to pave the way for Washington by promoting common-sense
policies of smaller government, lower taxes and restrained spending that
create jobs and prosperity for their citizens.

I commend Mitt
Romney and his entire campaign team for a disciplined, focused and
hard-fought race. Anita and I wish him, Ann and his team all the best.”

~ TX Gov. Rick Perry"

Posted by: LTC Graham at November 10, 2012 10:18 PM (SwEjg)

269 The enormity of our problem is undeniable.

The GOP Machine spits out McCaines and Mitts.

The Democrat Machine mows them down.

The GOP Machine is the problem. It spits out weak shit.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:18 PM (sRus3)

270 Rem 870 ar next. Molon labe

Posted by: SCSCRA at November 10, 2012 10:19 PM (9Jf3N)

271 @211 Shotgun recommendations.
Basic is the Mossberg pump. Or equivalent Winchester. Not sure if Remington brands one. Unless you're slight in stature or can't practice regularly, get a 12-guage. Look for an extended magazine (the extra rounds also add weight to help soak up recoil until they're gone), and practice reloading while you fire. Shotgun artists can rack the pump, and also carry shells stuck between their finger. Navy SEAL legendary pointman Chief Jim "Patches" Watson carried a shotgun when Team 2 was deployed in the Rung Sat Special Zone in V.N.
The Saiga 12 is a 12-guage shotgun built with an AK action. Russian import. They are legendarily rugged, and extra-large magazines are available. Check them out on YouTube.
I learned here recently of a Turkish semi-auto shotgun with M16 styling. I don't know much about them, but they do use a gas piston (like the AK) to work the action, rather than direct gas impingement like the M16.

Posted by: Thorvald at November 10, 2012 10:19 PM (1V6Pv)

272 Thank you irongrampa.. thank you. Exactly how I feel. I will never give up on this country as long as I have breath left in my body. Discouraged? Yes. Give up? No.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 10, 2012 10:19 PM (1hNQS)

273 I very much like Omega Dan or The Omega Dan.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:19 PM (nkiQM)

274 214
Two thirds of registered R's sat at home and we still got 48% of the vote.

That tells you it was our candidate, not a massive swing toward leftism in the country, that cost us the election.


Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:06 PM (GBHrM)

Nope, it tells me that 2/3s of Republicans are waiting for the "perfect candidate". 2/3s of them would probably stay at home if Reagan or Coolidge ran.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (Ohhk6)

275 257 Hi all!

back from my gala! I get to take this formal gown off and put the stompy boots on.

Also, don't keep tigers. They will eat you.
Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:16 PM (ou/rY)




The Horde requests, as it always does, pics.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (GEICT)

276 As far as school goes, I recommend home schooling

Posted by: Daphne at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (hjEPZ)

277 Rick perry is on drugs

Posted by: SCSCRA at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (9Jf3N)

278 Hi all!



back from my gala! I get to take this formal gown off and put the stompy boots on.



*waves* Here. Have some wine for me since I can't have any since I took cold medicine and I do not want to be that idiot at the ER.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (Gk3SS)

279 Just turned on Stossel. I missed the first 5 minutes.

Is the entire show about the legalization of weed or is this just a segment?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (piMMO)

280 "Note that we lost the overall election by about 70,000 votes."

...huh?

not even close @.@

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (79EF9)

281 I did love my Ithaca Model 37 ultra-feather light. 20 gauge. It was great on Doves.

Posted by: MAJ O at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (TwbSE)

282 253 @235

I do not like the action or hold of any Mossberg.


Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:14 PM (0fxcV)




What about it don't you like?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (GEICT)

283 273 I very much like Omega Dan or The Omega Dan.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:19 PM (nkiQM)


_________________

Thanks.

Working off dystopian movies--

Omega Man.

(at least I think it was...never saw it.)

Posted by: tasker at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (r2PLg)

284 he Danninater.

Dan-arama.

The Danster.

Dan-O-Mite!
Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM (sRus3)

dan-a-jana

dan-holio

dana-rama-ding-dong

dan-jamas

abra-ca-dan-bra

dan-alicious!

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (ou/rY)

285 Nope, it tells me that 2/3s of Republicans are waiting for the "perfect
candidate". 2/3s of them would probably stay at home if Reagan or
Coolidge ran.


*****


Pffft.

Purists.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:21 PM (piMMO)

286 Then they are either maniacs, liars or Tea Party Patriot doesn't mean what they think it means.

Occam's Razor says, "The simplest answer is usually the solution."

They didn't trust Romney, so they went for Obama as a known quantity and as a purveyor of the status quo. They thought, "Things are bad, but they're getting better, and who knows what Romney will do once he's in there?"

So they hoped for the best and chose a known over an unknown.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:21 PM (GBHrM)

287 Two critical thoughts about the video & one 'bout the lady & free phones:

(1) Tiger kittens aren't very graceful, are they?

(2) That rat dog was owning that tiger kitten... I wonder what a video would look like... In 2 years time, when that tiger mauls that rodent...

(3) I remember that lady talking about her free Obama phones and Obama dollars... She's the representative of the last 32 people who live in Detroit!

Posted by: PelosiNeedsMorePlasticSurgery at November 10, 2012 10:21 PM (uy+Yh)

288
dan-holio


****

Made me laugh.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:21 PM (piMMO)

289 Tiger Cubs Can't Jump.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (RJVJw)

290 Again, pay attention to your local officals. Congressman, Senator, state rep, state sen, mayor, city council, school board,etc. Watch them. Record their deeds and misdeeds, votes and statements. Then, when their primaries roll around, jump in and nail 'em, by getting involved with their primary opponents. Do this vs. all incumbents, especially Congressional ones, regardless of party. http://tinyurl.com/b7rtnxc for more info

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (WcgMM)

291 How about we put a deadline on this, "if we only had a better candidate" horseshit, and the "election was stolen" horseshit, and the " don't despair, there's always 2014 and 2012" horseshit as next Tuesday? Maybe by then the shock will wear off and people can start to see clearly.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (GZitp)

292 Mossberg has about a thousand models.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:11 PM (GEICT)

Yes, they do. I'm for keeping things simple.

I have a Mossberg 500 12Ga Security Combo that I bought 20 or so years ago for $159. It came with an 18 1/2" barrel for home defense and a 26" barrel for hunting. Changing barrels is a 30 second proposition.

I'm not big on hunting, but I've taken it out a few times and it did fine. Mostly I shoot it at the range with the short barrel. It's never given me one single problem.

I'm for buying the cheapest 500 with an 18 1/2" barrel.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (IoNBC)

293
hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (/NgNT)

294
I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (GEICT)

The Remington 870 is a solid, quality weapon and fairly cheap. I think trap shooting is the best way to practice with a shotgun. The kick of a shotgun is pretty strong and could cause hesitation if you aren't used to it. I used to shoot at this cool range adjacent to the runway at Miramar. It was kind of weird pointing a gun in the direction of an F-18 as performed touch and goes.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (eacF6)

295 FTLOG... will someone SECURE THE BALLOT BOX!?

The amount of fraud is sickening. If we truly can't do that then we might as well skip all the other steps and go straight to shooting.

Posted by: chaz at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (sSNkG)

296 Omega Man

Plot

In March 1975, biological warfare between the People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union kills most of the world's population. U.S. Army Col. Robert Neville, M.D. (Charlton Heston), a scientist based in Los Angeles, California, begins to succumb to the ensuing plague but manages to inject himself with an experimental vaccine just in time, rendering himself immune. Meanwhile, the plague's surviving victims in Los Angeles, join together as "The Family," a cult of crazed nocturnal albino mutants who seek to destroy all technology and Neville.
Two years later in August 1977, Neville believes he is the plague's only survivor. Struggling to maintain his sanity, he spends his days patrolling the deserted city, hunting and destroying members of the Family. At night, living atop a fortified apartment building equipped with an arsenal of weaponry, he is a prisoner in his own home. The Family wants to destroy him, believing him to be a last remnant of the old culture.
As Neville takes his time "shopping' for a new leisure suit, he spots a "living Playtex Doll" mannequin which he chases into the overgrown park. Neville decides he is seeing things and dismisses the human sighting.

________________________

Might be good.

Hmmmm......

Well--off to dinner.

Posted by: tasker at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (r2PLg)

297 Two thirds of registered R's sat at home and we still got 48% of the vote.That tells you it was our candidate, not a massive swing toward leftism in the country, that cost us the election.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:06 PM

Actually, I tend to think it tells you more about "registered republicans", than the candidate.Ifthey don't know enough about Barry to vote against him, no matter who the candidate was, thenthe left has manufactured a "swing", regardless. If the system, media etc can contribute to those "R's" sitting it out, then what you've got is "D's" by default.

Posted by: otho at November 10, 2012 10:22 PM (yBF/9)

298 >>Well, yes, but then we're back to going to actually handle them to see what works best for you. I like the various Flex models in general but it depends if you want a short barrel or not.As noted above, you won't go wrong with Remington.


Please tell me you have your boots on .

Posted by: garrett says 870 at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (Y+pc6)

299
Sweet! Looks they've started a second season of Dave's Old Porn with Dave Attell.

Downloading....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (kdS6q)

300 The problem with a pump is that their inherent reliability is dependent on the operator. Short stroking under stress is a problem for police and military use, so unless you shoot it often and have the upper body strength to spare, you may fail your old reliable 870.

Additionally, it might not be you handling it, back when Benelli was working with HK they had a video of a thirteen year old girl emptying a Super 90 with every pellet on target, before the first shell casing hit the ground. If the threat isn't imminent, save a little longer, and get the best, no compromises. (disclaimer, I no longer work for HK, and they no longer sell Benelli)

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (kdfQ/)

301 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:13 PM (u58W2)

Who will let that happen? Larry and Barry?

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (sRus3)

302 hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has
been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks


****

SCOAMF?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (piMMO)

303 The question remains and always will. What are you wililing to sacrifice for freedom? How far are you willing to go?

Posted by: Soona at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (h8o92)

304 Make that Harry and Barry.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (sRus3)

305 *waves* Here. Have some wine for me since I can't have any since I took cold medicine and I do not want to be that idiot at the ER.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:20 PM (Gk3SS)

why thank you AtC, I will drink your wine with many thanks.

I am sorry you have a cold. Please get well and stomp again soon.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (ou/rY)

306 Whatever drugs Perry is on, he needs to share 'em with Romney. Romney's concession speech was the most slobbery grovel I've read since last time I checked out LGF.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (QTHTd)

307 Ammo will be priced out of existence. You need an old fashioned projectile weapon. Now, longbow or crossbow?
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 10:10 PM


You have a point, there. I need to add a bow to the arsenal tool-box. I've never been a bow guy, so I'm thinkin' a cross-bow would be the bestest way to get into the bow business.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (JMmQ9)

308 Not sure if Remington brands one.
.
.
You are kidding, right?
BTW if you haven't rushed out and bought a stripped lower for insurance, now is the time.

Posted by: Yes I Am at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (oc9hK)

309 "hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks"

discredited? o.O

are you thinking of a noun?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (79EF9)

310 Anybody give some thought to mentoring some of the children of these liberal voters?

For real. Many of these kids are being ignored and handed over to the public schools. . . they are neglected by and large. The schools and community organizers are screaming out for us "privileged" folk to mentor them and spend time with them. . . Become a coach, tutor in a school, show up where their parents and guardians fail to. . . and fill their minds with conservative ideals and encouragement.

They will remember it.
And honestly, some of us, perhaps a large portion of us, have failed to take the opportunity.

It's time to insert our ideology into their heads before the liberals can. Or at least, really confuse their kids to make it a little more difficult for them.

Let's make the conservative party the new black daddy that helps the minorities (who are currently truly enslaved to liberalism) be set free and independent.

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (W5c4e)

311 Sweet! Looks they've started a second season of Dave's Old Porn with Dave Attell.

Downloading....


****

I saw that title popup on On-Demand but haven't watched it yet?

Does he make pron funny?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (piMMO)

312 Short barrel is a relative term. I found out yesterday that the barrels can't be any shorter than 18.5 inches now??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (2rMmy)

313 Purple suit sock off

Posted by: MountainTurtle at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (hjEPZ)

314 281 I did love my Ithaca Model 37 ultra-feather light. 20 gauge. It was great on Doves.

Oooooo....super-nice gun.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (IoNBC)

315 Ammo will be priced out of existence. You need an old fashioned projectile weapon. Now, longbow or crossbow?


****

Haven't they already tried to ban lead or one of the other elements necessary to ammo?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:25 PM (piMMO)

316 Whichever direction we choose, we should make everything as messy as possible for the libs. Spit on them. Throw dirt in their faces. Yell "neener neener neener" at them. Call them names. Shoot spit balls at them.Stop playing nice. NO COMPROMISE!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 10:25 PM (DoZD+)

317 Discredited! Thats it! Thanks jimi ray

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 10, 2012 10:25 PM (/NgNT)

318 ESPN is trying to get Kansas State out of number 1 spot. They are really trying for an Oregon/ Notre Dame National Championship game. Assholes.

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 10, 2012 10:25 PM (2Nzn8)

319
We allow "children" to vote. Can anyone here argue that the majority of 18-26 year old Americans are no more mature than 14 year olds were in the Forties?
I have read comment after comment from recent female college grads who said, "Until the GOP is interested in social issues, I can't vote for them...I know the economy is really bad, but Ichose the person I voted for, I did withsocial justice in mind."
I took "social justice" to actually mean "Oh, those poor gays just want their civil rights" and "those poor illegals should be citizens."
I was a young college grad once. I recall how self-righteous I was. That's how we women are at that age--damn stupid, downright silly.I just never thought a huge percent of males of that age would ever be as much the airheads as we girls. Wrong!
The reason theydon't place as their#1 concern "the economy" rather than "social justice" is that their damned parents have coddled them and are still supporting them. Why the hell should they worry that they don't have jobs?

Posted by: gm at November 10, 2012 10:26 PM (wgmUB)

320 312 Short barrel is a relative term. I found out yesterday that the barrels can't be any shorter than 18.5 inches now??
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (2rMmy)

Yes. I think that's true for most states.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:26 PM (IoNBC)

321 Made me laugh.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:21 PM (piMMO)

Hi NDH. =)

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:26 PM (ou/rY)

322 Nope, it tells me that 2/3s of Republicans are waiting for the "perfect
candidate". 2/3s of them would probably stay at home if Reagan or
Coolidge ran.


Romney was far from perfect. He had Romneycare around his neck; his flip-flopping on abortion and gun rights; and his history of supporting moderates. That's pretty much a trifecta in turning off most Republicans, not just the purists.

Don't get me wrong; the Repubs who stayed home were unforgivably stupid, but since very few Americans know what it's like to live under true socialism, I understand their ignorance. The Repubs who stayed home can't imagine how bad it's going to get, that's all.

I can, because I've lived in it. But most Americans can't.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:26 PM (GBHrM)

323 Charlatan?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (nkiQM)

324 Oh, and tell the GOP to go screw their moderate candidate, whoever he/she may be.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (DoZD+)

325 Sweet! Looks they've started a second season of Dave's Old Porn with Dave Attell.

Downloading....


****

On Showtime at 0005

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (piMMO)

326 hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks

I'll be in my debunked.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (QupBk)

327 Short barrel is a relative term. I found out yesterday that the barrels can't be any shorter than 18.5 inches now??
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:24 PM (2rMmy)

seriously? are you on a stage riding shotgun? anything shorter is technically a scattergun

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (Z9EHQ)

328 So, what black rapper or music mogul do you think will run for the Dem nomination four years from now and be elected POTUS?

Posted by: gm at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (wgmUB)

329 For straight up home defense:
http://tinyurl.com/bzp2n2s

For all purpose use:
http://tinyurl.com/bc7zh57

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (0fxcV)

330
@311

I enjoyed the first season. Basically just Dave on a couch with guests, minor celebs or porns stars, cracking wise.

If you remember the old Colin's Sleazy Friends show on public access cable back in the day, it's very similar.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 10:28 PM (kdS6q)

331 Hi NDH. =)

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:26 PM (ou/rY)


****
Howdy!
How's Elizabeth this evening?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:28 PM (piMMO)

332

870 is a good choice. Better yet,go to several stores and pick up different guns. One of them will feel just right to you--that'll be the one.
The ammo needs onlt to be #2 or #4 high brass. At home defense range (6-8 ft) the pattern willbe about the size of a golf ball. At 1200fps,that is like getting hit with a subsonic sledge hammer.Definitely ruins someone's week.
The additionaladvantage with shot rather than slug is less penetration of structure--think of aloved one in the next room--lessens the danger.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (NGuNB)

333
Funny how a lot of people liked Mitt Romney a couple of weeks and were ready to make him the president by crawling over broken glass. Noweveryone just think he's an awful RINO. I bet some of you are drinking the wrong kind of tea and probablyare included in that 12% of 'tea party' traders.

There are lots of reasons the GOP lost Tuesday.I think almost any Republican would have lost----I mean Bachmann? Perry? Santorum? Huntsman? Give me a break. The Democrats are just dirty enough and slimy enough to get the turn out that they need no matter what. And the GOP just can't compete with the dirty filthy campaign that is Obama and the MSM.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks most of the swing states suck at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (MtrZW)

334
"Then, after I become legally a polar bear..."
One minor detail. Polar bear hunting season.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (+9AX9)

335 I enjoyed the first season. Basically just Dave on a couch with guests, minor celebs or porns stars, cracking wise.

If you remember the old Colin's Sleazy Friends show on public access cable back in the day, it's very similar.


****

Never saw Colin's Sleazy Friends but love the title!

Something I've never really understood: Men sitting around watching pron together.

What gives?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (piMMO)

336 14in barrels are generally only sold to law enforcement or the military, lots of issues with them - if your not breaching or boarding a ship, you probably don't need them.

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (49lPc)

337 How's Elizabeth this evening?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:28 PM (piMMO)

I'm good. I'm about to settle in and watch the latest episode of Grimm on my hulu.

I just got back from a formal dinner which I got to leave early. There were some personages there. rubbing elbows with the known, that's me.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (ou/rY)

338 The dog (?) is tomorrow night's dinner and the camera operator is next week's.

Posted by: georgeofthedesert at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (Eq2MX)

339 On a lighter not. I give you , How to drink beer, as shown by a real pro. http://tinypic.com/r/20ii93d/6

Posted by: Personally I prefer scotch Dan at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (JKNDp)

340 The enviros wanted lead shot shotgun shells banned (replaced with stainless steel shot) because it was lead polluting ponds and birds that used the spent shot as gizzard grinders or some such crap.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (nkiQM)

341 Sadly, porn is for men who can't get the real thing. I wouldn't want my friends to know if I spent my time with it.

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (W5c4e)

342 Now that I'm over my shock and depression (seriously, Iwas stunned for 2 days), I'm ready to enjoy zombies tomorrow night.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (DoZD+)

343 334 "Then, after I become legally a polar bear..."One minor detail. Polar bear hunting season.
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (+9AX9)


Polar bears can also legally hunt back...anywhay, only the Inuit can legally hunt them.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (DeRsD)

344 Ain't no hunting season round here. Our betters have declared "We sivilized"

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (WcgMM)

345 Saiga shotguns are notoriously unreliable. Talk to the 3 gun shooting folks. Really any name brand that fits you and you are comfortable with is fine. Get an auto if you are slight. A 12 gauge pump with slugs or buck can hurt you bad enough to leave a large bruise.

Posted by: MAJ O at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (TwbSE)

346 Please tell me you have your boots on .



Posted by: garrett says 870 at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (Y+pc6)


Sadly, no.
Re: ESPN pimping Oregon for number one, doesn't Paul Allen own a major piece of Disney and thus of ABC and thus of ESPN?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (Gk3SS)

347 "I took "social justice" to actually mean "Oh, those poor gays just want their civil rights" and "those poor illegals should be citizens.""

since we aren't going to deport the illegals currently here, and since gays will eventually be given equal -- not equivalent, but equal -- legal "protections" to marry the ones they love, it really is time for the republican party to get on the right side of history on those issues.

even if we aren't going to get much of the gay vote or much of the hispanic vote at first, we make it pretty hard for even voters who aren't gay or hispanic and who are attracted to the fiscal responsibility that conservatism supposedly represents to pull the lever for the members of a party that seems like it's unfairly picking on gays.

macaca lost. praising strom thurmond -- not not for his segregationist record -- lost. "rape is in god's plan" lost.

there's really no reason to hold so dearly on to losing issues that we have no chance of ever enacting. we turn off a lot of potential voters who don't want to be part of the "bully party"...who don't want to be associated with standing in between two lovers' harmless civil rights or breaking up families with state-enforced deportation.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (79EF9)

348 Reading the comments about shotguns makes me sad.

I had been shotgun shopping the day before my scheduled training with a private instructor when I was hospitalized and, now, thanks to my implant, I can no longer shoot one.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:32 PM (piMMO)

349 Wow. Thanks for all the advice Ron's and Ettes. I'm trying to keep up and read all the comments. They're all appreciated.


Here's can my fav, just from an "oh, this looks cool and offers what I'm looking for."


http://mossberg.com/product/ shotguns-pump-action-590a1-special-purpose-tactical-tri-rail-9-shot-adjustable/ 53693

Take out spaces obv.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:32 PM (GEICT)

350 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:27 PM (Z9EHQ)


Yes, well, whatever it's called, my daddy, grandpa and all my uncles had them for the house. Not long ones like they hunted with, just a straight forward little shotgun. Some of them had pistol grips. I doubt the barrels were much longer than a foot or so.

I want one of those. Very effective for what I need it for.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (2rMmy)

351 hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has
been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks


try "krugman", "he was proven a krugman".

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (YxaXw)

352 Some ideas for surviving Obamanomics.
Start finding ways to avoid taxes at all costs.

Start a non-profit. Beg for and solicit money from tree huggers....bleeding hearts....blue States....federal grants...etc. give out your funds raised to conservatives/family values grroups/ red States etc.

Start a church. Solicit donations from blue States...spend in red States.

Start a research foundation (non-pofit) solicit money from liberal groups...pay yourself maximum allowable.

Determine which large companies are being run by obama supporters. Buy those stalks. Sell calls on those stalks repeatedly. (Berkshire Hathaway literally sucks. SCOAMF penis) so is bound to get illegal benefits and tips from the administration.

I will be buying silver...silver ETFs... silverstocks...SLW.

If you don't know a lot about stocks or options you may want to avoid my last two suggestions.

Buy hard asserts instead.

Plant your own garden. Grow as much of your own food as you can. Live in the city? Hydroponics ain't just for growing weed anymore....Or, You may want to head for hill country for a few years as a precaution.

WOLVERINES!!!


Live free or die, there are worse things in life than death.

Posted by: General John Stark at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (DglcR)

353 On a lighter not. I give you , How to drink beer, as shown by a real pro. http://tinypic.com/r/20ii93d/6
Posted by: Personally I prefer scotch Dan at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (JKNDp)

LOL! No wonder I don't like beer! I 've been doing it wrong, that explains so many things.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (ou/rY)

354

Shotguns: a quality pump model, 12 gauge, preferably 3" chamber. 2-3/4 chamber ok, but the 3" will also fire 2-3/4". 18.5" to 19.5" barrel, cylinder. Something listed as "security" is exactly this. Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are available exactly like this, and spare barrels are available for both.

Pumps work more reliably than other types, they do not automatically load a round (you do, so you know ... slightly less chance of a mistake) and they force fire discipline.

Bows: IF YOU MUST, get a compound (wheels/cams on the ends). Get something that can be set to about 25# (25 pounds) AND has a 28" draw. This is NOT a child's toy. A youth or women's model might fit this description. 27-28" is a typical man's draw length, and 25 pounds is an easy draw for people who do not train to shoot (there are a bunch of back muscles needed).

A 2- or 3-bladed broadhead (2" or 3" long, no serrated crap, no expanding crap, etc.) launched from a 25lb bow is not legal for hunting animals ... anywhere ... but it will put a hole in many perps, with lots of blood and pain ... and the amount of screaming that results ... blood everywhere ... everyone will run, or you will be in the fight of your life.


Remember to have a couple of stun guns (fully charged), a couple of large MagLite flashlights (4 or 6 battery models; C-cell fits hands better than D-cell), 5 or more cans of pepper spray or mace, a pack of 10 12"-long 1/4"-or-wider tie-wraps, a couple of large knives, and a baseball bat or two, on hand, ready to go ... they are easy to use, there is MUCH LESS hesitation in using pepper spray than a gun, and you may need all of these things.

Always have a cell phone ready, a "you-call-the-police-haul" initial plan works well, until it doesn't.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (KMLFi)

355 @320, 312 short-barreled shotguns. Check local laws, but if they're legal in your state, the BATF will sell you a tax stamp for (I believe) $200 that says you can buy one. These people will sell you one: http://preview.tinyurl.com/lf598 (cool Saiga videos, too).

Posted by: Thorvald at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (1V6Pv)

356 So now Hillary Clinton won't testify next week on Benghazi. It conflicts with her schedule.

No one will do shit about it.

Posted by: blindgoose at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (a6qEC)

357 "I think almost any Republican would have lost"

There is no Republican/Conservative alive that would have won, that's krakatoe's point in his post. He get's it, I don't know why it's so hard for most everyone else to.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (GZitp)

358 Just don't use all these guns y'all are discussing for suicide. We need you alive. Even if you are sad and can't get the real thing and have to look at porn to have something to live for.

There's too much depression and angst around here lately. (for good reason, of course)

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (W5c4e)

359
340 The enviros wanted lead shot shotgun shells banned (replaced with stainless steel shot) because it was lead polluting ponds and birds that used the spent shot as gizzard grinders or some such crap.
Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:30 PM (nkiQM)


Lead shot is already prohibited from being used on waterfowl throughout the nation, but they are trying to go further now. I think that Arizona and California have already banned lead projectile, period.
Actual science to back of this ban is rather limited, of course...

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (DeRsD)

360 NDH, even an inertial semi auto.?

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (49lPc)

361 Actually, I tend to think it tells you more about
"registered republicans", than the candidate. If they don't know enough
about Barry to vote against him, no matter who the candidate was,
then the left has manufactured a "swing", regardless. If the system,
media etc can contribute to those "R's" sitting it out, then what you've
got is "D's" by default.


But that swing can be overcome. Romney showed how in the first debate. If he had been that guy times two the entire campaign, he probably would've won.

He needed to go on all the networks that most of the country watches and simply shred the interviewers. He needed to go into the lion's den at every opportunity.

Another aspect that doomed Romney is his modesty, which prevented his side from publicizing his good works and charity.

And, sadly, I do think refusing to release all his tax returns hurt him, too.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (n2W6w)

362 Adriane, if you are here sorry I was a b word to you last night. No excuse. My nerves are close to shot.

buckshot?
brownies?
barometer?

: -))) Stay warm and sane up there... First of the cold winter rains moving through here...

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (gh+mp)

363 Oh, and I still think Romney was a good candidate and ran a great campaign. No, not my first pick. That was Perry. But a lot of people here hated him, too. And I'd still back up Mitt. 4 days later.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (DoZD+)

364 Sadly, porn is for men who can't get the real thing. I wouldn't want my friends to know if I spent my time with it.


****

I admit to watching it, at times.

For a week or so I'll watch it and then not even think about it again for six months or so.

I'm not proud of it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:35 PM (piMMO)

365 Oh, and I still think Romney was a good candidate and ran a great
campaign. No, not my first pick. That was Perry. But a lot of people
here hated him, too. And I'd still back up Mitt. 4 days later.


****

Ditto on all counts

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:35 PM (piMMO)

366 Noweveryone just think he's an awful RINO.

This is what Romney said after he lost:

The nation, as you know, is at a critical point. At a time like this, we can't risk partisan bickering and political posturing. Our leaders have to reach across the aisle to do the people's work. And we citizens also have to rise to the occasion. We look to our teachers and professors, we count on you not just to teach, but to inspire our children with a passion for learning and discovery.

As if this had been a race between Cleveland and Harrison. As if it weren't the "teachers and professors" who did this to the electorate.

Romney would have changed NOTHING in office.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 10:35 PM (QTHTd)

367 That's right, jimi.

Posted by: senator scott brown at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (nkiQM)

368 Yes, well, whatever it's called, my daddy, grandpa and all my uncles had them for the house. Not long ones like they hunted with, just a straight forward little shotgun. Some of them had pistol grips. I doubt the barrels were much longer than a foot or so.

I want one of those. Very effective for what I need it for.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (2rMmy)

I agree it is effective but illegal. if I recall correctly it was a sawed off shotgun sting that set off the whole randy weaver thing.

you need a nice semi auto such as the remington 1100 tac 4.

oh yeah MissTammy!

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (Z9EHQ)

369 Here's can my fav, just from an "oh, this looks cool and offers what I'm looking for."


The 590s are very nice indeed

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (Gk3SS)

370 NDH, even an inertial semi auto.?


****

HUH?!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (piMMO)

371 208:
Reactionary, I am staying away from foreign investments because I think they have worse prospects than the US. But to each their own.

The important thing is to start focusing on our finances. Time to get focused on the dull, boring stuff so our ducks are in line when opportunities arise or crises threaten.

Being prepared means we will be ready to profit off of dumb lefties who think and invest like happy days are here again. But it also keeps us from being broadsided by stuff that happens "unexpectedly", and gets us out of "deer in the headlights" mode.


Posted by: Sweet Lou at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (gsPPG)

372 Niedermeyer, we're all sexual beings. Even Hillary Clinton, I hear. We all have needs. Hope you get the real thing to your satisfaction.

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (W5c4e)

373
This should piss you off. Goshen is about 15 miles from my house. I think I will call and confirm this Monday.
.Donna McMillan McMillan Associates This is how welfare is being abused all the time....!! But...we must remember she is part of that 47% we hear about, and it's her 'right' to do that At approximately 2:30ish pm, September 6, 2012, I entered the Kroger store on SR 28 in Goshen Ohio to pick up a few items. I gathered my items and went to the 10 and under register to check-out. The person in front of me (white female, approximate age 35-43, fake nails, big braided hair do, clean clothes, carrying a purse and a plastic drinking cup) put her purchase on the check out surface - ONE GRAPE. Yes, that is correct ONE GRAPE. The cashier asked if that was all, she replied yes. The cashier then weighted the GRAPE and told the women the cost was $.02 (TWO CENTS), the women then pulled out her EBT card (credit card for food stamps) and swiped it through the credit card machine, requesting $24.00 in cash back. The cashier asked if she wanted the GRAPE, the woman replied no and the GRAPE was put in the garbage can. The register recorded the sale as .02, cash back $24.00, credit .02, total $24.00 cash back. The cashier then asked if two fives would be okay because was out of tens, the woman agreed and took the $24.00 folded it up and put it in her pocket and left the store. As the next person in line I asked the cashier "as a tax payer what in the hell just happened here?" She said she was on the clock and could not comment. I then asked if I had actually seen this person purchase and discard a GRAPE, then get cash back on her EBT card. The cashier responded that it happens all day every day in their store. She also said that if the person buying the GRAPE has it ring up over .02 they get mad and make her reweigh it. My next comment was to ask the cashier if she planned to vote in November and she said she could hardly wait for 11/6/12 to get here as one tax payer to another. I paid for my groceries, in cash, and left the store madder than 10 wet hens. This is not one of those stories that a friend of a friend told a friend - I WITNESSED THIS AND WOULD LOVE TO TESTIFY IN COURT TO WHAT I SAW, however, it is apparently not illegal to go into a grocery store and buy a GRAPE, throw it away and take cash back from a food stamp EBT card and walk out the door. If she is so poor she needs food stamps why in the hell didn't she buy groceries. Please sent this to everyone you know this needs to get out to the public, if we don't get the takers stopped we are all doomed. -- Thank you. Donna McMillan McMillan Associates 274 Apache Trail Loveland, Ohio 45140 Phone: 513-340-4404 Please call about faxing

Posted by: Screw EBT Dan at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (JKNDp)

374 Niedrmeyer's Dead Horse,

Sorry to hear that. How about a pistol? We could start a pistol argument easily. How about .38 special is totally enough gun. Guys with .45s just have a slight penis size problem.

Posted by: MAJ O at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (TwbSE)

375
wheres my ping pongballs@ 351-

LOL- Thats who I wanted the word for- Krugman. Someone on another blog was arguing with me about the economy, and brought up Krugman.

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 10, 2012 10:36 PM (/NgNT)

376 Babe shooting short-barreled shotgun (Saiga): http://preview.tinyurl.com/bjck5vb

Posted by: Thorvald at November 10, 2012 10:37 PM (1V6Pv)

377 We need to stop thinking about how we as conservatives can elect conservative politicians and more on how we as conservatives can instill conservative values into the populace in general.
It will have to start in the schools and unless we control the education system liberalism/socialism will go on.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:37 PM (+9AX9)

378 Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (n2W6w)

He also needed to not talk so effectively and endlessly about his ability to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans and Democrats.

I mean, if I had decided to hold my nose and vote for Romney b/c I thought he was just another big government person, as soon as I heard him go on and on about that, I would have just walked away.

I don't want to micromanage the Romney campaign, but that was a big fat glaring error.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:37 PM (ou/rY)

379 340 I think it's non-toxic shot only for waterfowl.

Posted by: no good deed at November 10, 2012 10:37 PM (mjR67)

380 Actual science to back of this ban is rather limited, of course...



*****


This seems familiar.....

Posted by: AGW - Just call me "Climate Change" at November 10, 2012 10:37 PM (piMMO)

381 There is no Republican/Conservative alive that would have won, that's
krakatoe's point in his post. He get's it, I don't know why it's so hard
for most everyone else to.


Because we can't possibly make that claim. There's no evidence for it.

On the other hand there's plenty of evidence that Romney himself could've won if he'd done things differently.

He ran a good campaign, but it was seriously flawed. The biggest flaw--probably the decisive factor--was in letting the Democrats define him for an entire summer.

The second biggest mistake was in not ramming home the notion that Obama's policies are what's responsible for keeping us where we are. That was touched on, but it should've been hit the way the Dems hit Romney on being a "vulture capitalist."

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (n2W6w)

382 There is no Republican/Conservative alive that would have won, that's krakatoe's point in his post. He get's it, I don't know why it's so hard for most everyone else to.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (GZitp)


The data is not all in and can be interpreted in several different ways.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (DeRsD)

383 harleycowboy,
up the thread aways, this is what i tout.

i've been thinking on it for days. we, as conservatives, have failed at this.

just realized i'm typing in lowercase, sorry, me lazy tonite

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (W5c4e)

384 We need to stop thinking about how we as conservatives can elect conservative politicians and more on how we as conservatives can instill conservative values into the populace in general.
It will have to start in the schools and unless we control the education system liberalism/socialism will go on.
Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:37 PM (+9AX9)

Look up ISI -- the Intercollegiate Studies Institute. This is what they do. donate if you want.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (ou/rY)

385 Thanks for the lead update, Grey Fox.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (nkiQM)

386 Agenda:
* Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
* Oppose bailouts: nothing is too big to fail.
* Close the borders; fight amnesties to the end.
* Repeal the 1965 Immigration and Nationalization Act.
* Reform the schools wherever the right prevails.

How did the anti-White left win?
* Domination of the mass media, including Hollywood, so start there.
* Free government money instantly recycled as political bribes.
* Importing a new nation.
* Importing a new nation, illegally as well.
* Domination of education, so reform that at every opportunity.

Demographically, America moves a point or two further to the left with every election cycle. The solution is not to run Reagan every time; even Reagan couldn't win California now. If America becomes California, the left wins forever. Preventing the left from continuing to import a new nation is all-important.

But that can't be done in the face of a continuous leftist mass media hurricane and compulsory education in cultural Marxism. So support home schooling, and repeal the Hollywood tax cuts. That comes first.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (u58W2)

387
Sorry to hear that. How about a pistol? We could start a pistol
argument easily. How about .38 special is totally enough gun. Guys with
.45s just have a slight penis size problem.


*****

I own a Springfield XD 40 subcompact, I just can't fire a shotgun because of the kickback.

Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:39 PM (piMMO)

388 Those of you living in states with repub governors and legislatures, start pushing for the shift away from DC. Secession doesn't have to be abrupt. It could be done subtly and in increments. But we have to start the process soon before the marxists burn everything.

Posted by: Soona at November 10, 2012 10:39 PM (h8o92)

389 "So now Hillary Clinton won't testify next week on Benghazi. It conflicts with her schedule."

Yeah, she's got some urgent, can't wait meetings with............ Australia.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:39 PM (GZitp)

390 2004: America! Fuck Yeah!

2012: America ... meh, who gives a fuck.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 10, 2012 10:39 PM (ZPrif)

391 The situation is fairly simple:

On Monday we were conservatives.

On Wednesday, we became the resistance.

Posted by: Glen at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (K1CbB)

392 Soona, I am so hoping our newly elected governor of NC Pat McCrory will not cave to the other side, but so far, he keeps talking about working bipartisan. Dang.

Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (W5c4e)

393 anyone know why cheaper than dirt is so cheap?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (Z9EHQ)

394
361 Pretty good points there. I do think some people still voted for Obama because he's nice and popular or something stupid like that. I talked to a woman the other day that said she was glad that Obama won because he is so handsome and Romney looks mean. She's pro-life, pro-Israel, extremely conservative, and completely in the dark about everything. How can the GOP overcome that? I don't think Reagan could have overcome that ignorance.But I think that the GOP does need to stop looking at network TV and cultural shows as a bad thing. People were making fun of Obama for going on Entertainment Tonight instead of a serious political show, but how many idiot women did he reach by going on that show? The Grand Old Party just can't compete with Honey-Boo Booers, women who need a husband instead of the government, and voter fraud.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks most of the swing states suck at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (MtrZW)

395 If any of you morons send letters to your reps, I requested that mine propose legislation to allow people to withdraw money from their IRAs and 401Ks with out penalty if the money is used to pay down a mortgage. I'd prefer that you not have to pay income tax on it. I think a lot of people could help their bottom line if this were allowed and it would help with property values and diminish foreclosures.

If enough people requested, the idea might gain traction.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (QupBk)

396
The data is not all in and can be interpreted in several different ways.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (DeRsD)


****
There has been an awful lot of Monday-morning QBing but I, too, think we need to give it more time for it all to settle in.

Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:41 PM (piMMO)

397 I remember reading once in a sci fi short story (I think it was), how in a possible future, man went to the stars and colonized other worlds. But wherever humanity went , the United States went , Old Glory left earth and went on like an Olympic flame to relight liberty's torch from world to world.
Hmmm. Conservatives in space. We could nuke the world and come down in a hundred years to start over.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:42 PM (+9AX9)

398 He also needed to not talk so effectively and endlessly about his
ability to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans and
Democrats.


You're right. He legitimized Obama's policies by putting such a heavy emphasis on reaching across the aisle, thus contributing to the electorate's notion that Obama's policies weren't that bad after all.

Romney undercut a lot of his own arguments by telling people Obama was a nice guy; he and the president agreed on a lot; and Romney would look to the Democrats for their input.

People decided, "Well, heck, why should we risk changing horse midstream when even Romney says things aren't as bad as those Tea Partiers said? Let's give the president a little more time. What could it hurt, really?

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:42 PM (n2W6w)

399 "Bethany"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/br8lm53

Posted by: Thorvald at November 10, 2012 10:43 PM (1V6Pv)

400 Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (u58W2)


****


*New Speaker of the House

Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:43 PM (piMMO)

401 Lemons, can I squeeze?

Posted by: sTevo at November 10, 2012 10:43 PM (VMcEw)

402 NDH, implant?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:43 PM (GEICT)

403 384 We need to stop thinking about how we as conservatives can elect conservative politicians and more on how we as conservatives can instill conservative values into the populace in general.
-
Demographically, America moves a point or two further to the left with every election cycle. Right wing politicians in office have to do what they can to stop that. If they do nothing to arrest the leftist drift, electing them is pointless.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:43 PM (u58W2)

404
We got no shellacking at all.

,,,lost a couple of senate seats.

Posted by: DavidM




The Democrates had 23 seats open. We won negative 2.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (kdS6q)

405 Can't follow you down that road, jimi ray. Should I give up my opposition to abortion, too? Sorry, a lot of these positions aren't ones taken out of political convenience. Life is sacred, marriage is a sacrament, those are eternal truths and they are not up for negotiation. What needs to be shown is that we are not the bullies. The left is the aggressor in these things. They are in most things. They are the party trying to fashion heaven on earth, a goal we know to be foolhardy and frought with pain and misery. And they are forcing all of us to go along with them. Conservatives have never succeeded in "telling people how to live their lives" to the 10th degree that the left has. Hell, even Prohibition, widely hated, was a PROGRESSIVE cause. These damn progs are the bullies. They admit it, seeking to be the agents of no less than "Hope and Change". They are building this New Jerusalem, they are the ones crafting the theocracy. Evidence poors in everyday. Today I saw LA is going for "Meatless Mondays" and I stopped in my tracks. Eternal Lenten vows now, eh, LA? Yes. They're the ones who want to tell you what to eat, what to wear, what to drive, to teach your kids how to have sex, how to view their elders, their history, their "dark" heritage. Not us. No, sir. Not at all. You got that very wrong.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (WcgMM)

406
Husband is being told his job could be gone by the end of the year. I teach school, so ....
Start teaching economics so the new class will know how stuff works. You can't kill the golden goose.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (+9AX9)

407 361 and 394

We have to act like retards. That's what has been our failing. I'm not being sarcastic. No can do, so what else?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (cQmXn)

408 You're right. He legitimized Obama's policies by putting such a heavy
emphasis on reaching across the aisle, thus contributing to the
electorate's notion that Obama's policies weren't that bad after all.


****

In the 3rd debate, I screamed every.single.time he verbalized his agreement with O's policies.

Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (piMMO)

409 "There's no evidence for it.
Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:38 PM (n2W6w)"

Fucking delusional. Imminent fiscal crisis, massive unemployment and a stagnant economy. We have probably the two most prominent GOP figures that can speak on fixing those very issues, two impeccable men of character and still we got our ass handed to us.
Wake the fuck up.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (GZitp)

410 I am not a fan but you could pick up a 410 pistol if you need a small shotgun

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

411 you need a nice semi auto such as the remington 1100 tac 4.



Didn't you suggest a Remington 870 yesterday? Or am I confusing my Morons again?


Is there any reason a person can't just shorten the barrel themselves after they buy it?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (2rMmy)

412 I want one of those. Very effective for what I need it for.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM (2rMmy)

Tammy, if you want a really short gun, most security shotguns come with a pistol grip. I don't like them, but some people do. A pump with an 18 1/2" barrel really is short enough to move around with comfortably.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:45 PM (IoNBC)

413 Is there any reason a person can't just shorten the barrel themselves after they buy it?

Prison.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 10, 2012 10:45 PM (QupBk)

414 NDH, implant?


***

AICD.

I'm fine.

Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:46 PM (piMMO)

415 I talked to a woman the other day that said she was glad that Obama won
because he is so handsome and Romney looks mean. She's pro-life,
pro-Israel, extremely conservative, and completely in the dark about
everything. How can the GOP overcome that?


With endless side-by-side comparisons of positions. By explaining until you're blue in the face what exactly that nice guy has done and what his policies will do. By being specific.

And by offering specific alternatives.

By the end of the campaign Romney had erased the likeability gap. People liked him as much as Obama. But they just felt he wouldn't follow through on his promises because they couldn't detect a core set of values.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:46 PM (n2W6w)

416 @387

Hi-Point arms makes inexpensive handguns.

I recommend the .40 SW it's cheap and when you run out of ammo you can use it to bludgeon your opponent or as a boat anchor

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 10:46 PM (0fxcV)

417 Is there any reason a person can't just shorten the barrel themselves after they buy it?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (2rMmy)

You can saw off a barrel for a short-range home defense gun. Just check your state's minimum length requirement.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:47 PM (IoNBC)

418
Then, after I become legally a polar bear...





The more inclusive term is "Ursine-American", you racist.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 10:47 PM (kdS6q)

419 HI BCochran!

I just remembered I have a stash of dark chocolate in the cupboard. yum!

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:47 PM (ou/rY)

420 Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 10:33 PM[/[]

thx, Arbalest. My first thought was a compound bow (it's the only kind of bow I have any experience with), but I was thinking that a cross-bow would suit a shotgun / rifle shooter better

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 10:47 PM (JMmQ9)

421 Ten years ago, I never even thought about what the government could do to me, since I am a law abiding, tax paying citizen. Now it's all I think about, because of the EPA, etc. coming down hard. I doubt my husband and I will still be employed in two years. We will figure something out, but this isn't what I had planned for.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 10:48 PM (cQmXn)

422 Wed night, driving rugrats home from church, dropped a little girl off at home. As she hopped out, the other kids noticed that she was carrying a cookie and other goodies that had shortly before been in the possession of another little girl. A cry of outrage rose from the back of the van as they realized the one girl had given her goodies to the other girl. "Unfair", they cried. "She should have given all of us some!" "We're not going to play with her anymore!" I couldn't believe it. I told them the goodies belongedto the one girl and she had every right to do whatever she wanted with them. I asked them if theythought that someone had the right to tell another person what to do with their own stuff. It was met with a moment of silence. I hope I gave them something different to think about. Pint-sized socialists are scary.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 10:48 PM (DoZD+)

423 "On Wednesday, we became the resistance.

Posted by: Glen at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (K1CbB)"
Yes, I said the same thing before. We aren't a viable political movement anymore when it comes to national elections, we as a nation have become to liberal for that. As conservatives, we are now a resistance movement.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:49 PM (GZitp)

424 AICD.


Yikes. Glad to hear you're ok.


You changing your nic? Or are you like me and constantly forgetting to change back?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:49 PM (GEICT)

425
I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.
Pump with a magazine extention. Barrel no mor that 20". Ammo.... don't reccomend slugs. #2, #4, 00buckshot are easy to get

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:49 PM (+9AX9)

426 Husband is being told his job could be gone by the end of the year. I teach school, so ....
Start teaching economics so the new class will know how stuff works. You can't kill the golden goose.


****

there was a helluva fight on one of the morning econ programs on FNC this morning.

Jerry Brown threatened to cut the school year if taxes weren't raised and VOILA! New taxes!

One of the chicks was highly emotional and coming completely unglued at Hoenig's suggestion that more hours in the classroom don't correlate with quality of education.

Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:49 PM (piMMO)

427 So the SEC is likely to have six teams ranked 4-9 in tomorrow's BCS, each of which has either one or two losses to one another but no outsiders and no upset losses, and yet K-State, Oregon and Notre Fucking Dame have have the inside track to the title game despite their lame ass Big-however many teams they have, Pac-however many teams they have, and service academy plus OU schedules they've played, eh?

Lame, my friends, very lame. None of those three pretenders would be unbeaten in the SEC.

Oh, and Hail Johnny Football!

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 10, 2012 10:50 PM (bS6uW)

428 Posted by: AGW - Just call me at November 10, 2012 10:43 PM (piMMO)
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Urge that agenda on every potential candidate for the office. If they support it, support them.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:50 PM (u58W2)

429 Give California back to Mexico.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at November 10, 2012 10:50 PM (ZSnCv)

430 Fucking delusional. Imminent fiscal crisis, massive unemployment and a
stagnant economy. We have probably the two most prominent GOP figures
that can speak on fixing those very issues, two impeccable men of
character and still we got our ass handed to us. Wake the fuck up.


What are you, Samuel L. Jackson?

I said there was no evidence for the statement that no living Republican could've won. There was evidence that Romney himself could've won if he'd done things differently, such as defending himself against an entire summer's worth of dishonest attacks.

The electorate didn't see Romney as a man of "impeccable character" because he let the Democrats define him as a "vulture capitalist."

Your inability to grasp that simple fact doesn't make me delusional or asleep.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:50 PM (n2W6w)

431 hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks



quack quack

Posted by: ugly duckling at November 10, 2012 10:51 PM (jvg6T)

432 we do need to get our ideas into the schools. i'm a little wary with letting the legislatures draft forcible (and enforceable) curricula, tho...we have republican politicians talking about how embryology and big-bang cosmoly are "lies from the pit of hell", so we have to keep in mind that some of our more ardently populist red-state pols have a bad habit of putting their feet all the way down their throats at times like these ~.~

Well jimi ray then we focus on Social Studies (American History and Government ONLY) and I really do mean just those two as a start. They would not be seen by the public at large as threatening or crazy if we pushed back hard starting with those two.

We use History to discredit the leaders of the left and we use Government to discredit their ideas.
And these two are very doable and something the average person would get behind. We follow all the way through K-12 and then to all State funded post secondary schools be they Universities or Tech schools.

Now as far as going after the movie industry this is where Ace and the rest can really help. He and the other well known bloggers like Michelle Malkin would have the pull to quickly get in touch with some Reps to actually float the idea of this kind of tax in time to get it in the Fiscal Cliff negotiating. It would give our side a way to change the debate and to flank Obama on the left and cut his legs out from under him, hell include Non profits to. Give John B. a whole laundry list of rich people he is willing to tax the shit out of when he is standing in front of the cameras. If nothing else it would put the fear of God in many of those lefties. Will Smith did an interview awhile back on French TV and looked just sick when he was told about the 75% tax they were going to put into place, we need to start throwing that figure around and fast.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at November 10, 2012 10:51 PM (ZIWkB)

433 419 HI BCochran!

I just remembered I have a stash of dark chocolate in the cupboard. yum!

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:47 PM (ou/rY)



*waves*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:51 PM (GEICT)

434 "Sound off tonight on all the ways to make a buck or save a buck in the coming economic wasteland."

Will do. But people here won't like it.

Stop all truly discretionary spending or giving. All of it. No tips for service. No paying the neighbor's kid to mow the lawn. No giving to charity. Not even your old stuff. Sell it on craigslist, instead. Do not add one discretionary dime to the economy. Not one... thin... dime.

It's easy. It's effective. And it's looking out for number one. Face it, that's what this election was all about.

Thing is... conservatives will recoil at such advice. It's bred in the bone.

So is losing to liberals.

Posted by: voterevenge at November 10, 2012 10:51 PM (+5R2D)

435 Off sock!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:51 PM (piMMO)

436 ISI published Robert Spencer's "Did Muhammad Exist?". That book was... okay. Needed editing.

But it was a fuckton better than Esposito's tripe, and that shit gets published at Oxford.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (QTHTd)

437 But that swing can be overcome. Romney showed how in the first debate. If he had been that guy times two the entire campaign, he probably would've won.He needed to go on all the networks that most of the country watches and simply shred the interviewers. He needed to go into the lion's den at every opportunity.Another aspect that doomed Romney is his modesty, which prevented his side from publicizing his good works and charity.And, sadly, I do think refusing to release all his tax returns hurt him, too.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:34

Yeah, I hear you. But, still. The number mentioned was 75% of registered R's. I don't know if that it accurate, or not. But, if it is, there are bigger problems. If 3 quarters of your registered voters are sitting it out, with Barry in the balance, because they weren't inspired by Romney, there is a serious political malfunction that serves the left. One has to ask- why does 75% of "R" voters, NOT know what Barry means?

Posted by: otho at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (yBF/9)

438 Jimi Ray offline talking his typical useless shit = beaten and plunger raped and left in the high weeds under an overpass.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (bS6uW)

439 Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:49 PM (+9AX9)

There is nothing to be added to this answer (other than better formatting).

Well....maybe a composite stock.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (GsoHv)

440 Soona,

I totally agree. As I said on another thread,the secession can be quiet, economic and gradual and I believe that the red state governors have already started in the right direction with their stance against the ACA mandate.

No education money? We can teach them.

No highway funds? We'll fill our own damn potholes, thanks.



Posted by: T.Hunter at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (EZl54)

441 Anybody think he's being blackmailed by the administration?

Was this Broadwell broad bonking the General while he was being treated for prostate cancer? hm

Posted by: petraeus's prostate at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (W5c4e)

442
@431

Mountebank?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 10, 2012 10:52 PM (kdS6q)

443
Well I delivered my 4th baby on election night. A welcome distraction from the downfall of our country. She's beautiful and perfect, and I'm pretty sure that in Obama's America I can profit by having more and more children. Maybe my husband can quit his job and we can go full Coward-Pleven.

Joking aside, I'm terrified for their future.

Posted by: Lauren at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (wsGWu)

444 A pump with an 18 1/2" barrel really is short enough to move around with comfortably.


See, here's the thing. I don't want to move around comfortably. I want to be able to paint my walls with someone's guts if they break into my house. I want to do it in one or two shots, max.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (2rMmy)

445 Remington 870 as a shotgun recommendation. Ton of aftermarket crap that you get for it as well.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (OjQYm)

446 Oh, and Hail Johnny Football!

He was Cam Newton tonight. A one man team in that he made the other players more effective because of how much defensive resources that had to be dedicated to containing him.

Poor Fulton was getting whipped by a WR that could out jump him by 10 inches at least, because he had no safety help over the top.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (QupBk)

447
420 Alton Jackson

A crossbow will likely suit a shotgun/rifle shooter better than a bow, but they cost more, and they do not fire as fast.

The problems with bows is that they require much more training, both practice and muscle development/training, than crossbows and firearms.

A 50-pound draw might not sound like much, but it really is beyond almost everyone who has not trained.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (KMLFi)

448 362 Adriane, if you are here sorry I was a b word to you last night. No excuse. My nerves are close to shot. buckshot? brownies? barometer? : -))) Stay warm and sane up there... First of the cold winter rains moving through here...
Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 10:34 PM (gh+mp)

Hugs. Good person.
Listening to the worst best song ever, Red Solo Cup.
I changed the words for my granddaughter to red sippy cup, she loved it!!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (2Nzn8)

449
You changing your nic? Or are you like me and constantly forgetting to change back?


****

Like you, I can't remember.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (piMMO)

450

My Ithaca 37 is curerntly fitted with an 18.5" barrel. That is as short as you need go. Very quick handling in that configuration.

One more thing--if it is necessary for you to have a loaded weapon at hand,for Pete's sake,make sure there is a round up the spout. Otherwise you have a club.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (NGuNB)

451 422 Wed night, driving rugrats home from church, dropped a little girl off at home. As she hopped out, the other kids noticed that she was carrying a cookie and other goodies that had shortly before been in the possession of another little girl. A cry of outrage rose from the back of the van as they realized the one girl had given her goodies to the other girl. "Unfair", they cried. "She should have given all of us some!" "We're not going to play with her anymore!" I couldn't believe it. I told them the goodies belongedto the one girl and she had every right to do whatever she wanted with them. I asked them if theythought that someone had the right to tell another person what to do with their own stuff. It was met with a moment of silence. I hope I gave them something different to think about. Pint-sized socialists are scary.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 10:48 PM (DoZD+)


This all started I'm the early 90's, when we had to send a box of Kleenex with our kids on the first day of school. Then crayons, in later years, for communal use. I hated it! Wish I had known then, what I know now. Lots of other shit too. They do it gradually, so the frog doesn't jump out.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (cQmXn)

452 "There was evidence that Romney himself could've won
if he'd done things differently, such as defending himself against an
entire summer's worth of dishonest attacks.

The electorate didn't
see Romney as a man of "impeccable character" because he let the
Democrats define him as a "vulture capitalist."

Your inability to grasp that simple fact doesn't make me delusional or asleep.


Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:50 PM (n2W6w)"

You're not producing any evidence, just your delusional beliefs. Something you tell yourself to hold on to some pathetic hope for a eventual victory.
My fucking evidence is a 332-206 asswhipping.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (GZitp)

453 301 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:13 PM (u58W2)

Who will let that happen? Larry and Barry?

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:23 PM (sRus3)
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Instapundit is pushing this idea, and he's not even a conservative. Everyone on the right should be pushing it all the time, in power or out of power, for decades if need be, till it develops the needed momentum. It's a game changer.

Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (u58W2)

454
No highway funds? We'll fill our own damn potholes, thanks.


****

My Jeep will be just fine.

Good luck getting those Priuses down a dirt road.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 10:55 PM (piMMO)

455 Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 10:46 PM (n2W6w)

Are you testing out your fiction pieces on us again?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 10:55 PM (GsoHv)

456 Charter schools people. . . in NC, business leaders have been gathering to support this idea. They are drawing in lots of minorities as well as the children of social and fiscal conservatives who cannot afford to homeschool (time-wise) or private school (money-wise).

Posted by: i keep sayin' at November 10, 2012 10:55 PM (W5c4e)

457 443
Well I delivered my 4th baby on election night.

Congratulations, Lauren.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 10:55 PM (IoNBC)

458 Congratulations, Lauren!!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:56 PM (2rMmy)

459 Congrats Lauren!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:56 PM (GEICT)

460 Congrats, Lauren! That's a bright spot! Praying for your baby's future.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 10:56 PM (cQmXn)

461 ...since gays will eventually be given equal -- not equivalent, but equal -- legal "protections" to marry the ones they love, it really is time for the republican party to get on the right side of history on those issues.
Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (79EF9)



LOL. "Right side of history." Hilarious. A practice considered vile by every real civilization for 5000+ years, and we're going to give it legal protection because we're so much damn smarter. What a laugh.

Regardless, nobody who seriously gives a shit about gay marriage will ever vote Republican. Ever. They alreadyh have a party to vote for. Besides - even deep blue California voted down gay marriage. Only the full on socialist republics want it. We will NEVER win those states. Fuck what they want.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 10, 2012 10:56 PM (jfeoD)

462 392 Soona, I am so hoping our newly elected governor of NC Pat McCrory will not cave to the other side, but so far, he keeps talking about working bipartisan. Dang.
Posted by: Not giving you my I.D. at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (W5c4e)


------------------


Governors can't do it by themselves. They need a legislature and a majority of the people to back him up. State referendums can send a strong message to politicians.

Get with like-minded people ( Tea Party is a good start) to get the idea and the push going.

Posted by: Soona at November 10, 2012 10:57 PM (h8o92)

463 FL, VA, OH and PA need to change their states Constitutions to split their electoral votes. It is criminal to let their hell hole / money pit areas of their states decide elections. All of those states should get'r done while they have GOP Govs.

Posted by: Deli LLama at November 10, 2012 10:57 PM (lGu1O)

464 Posted by: Lauren at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (wsGWu)

Congratulations Lauren! I just had a baby, too.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:57 PM (ou/rY)

465 @ toby928© -

You know I live and die with LSU, but for what it's worth I sincerely hope Bama gets back in there and wins it all. This is just bullshit what's going on here. Teams should not be rewarded for playing lesser competition.

And I agree about Manziel ... if he stays healthy he is really going to be something special. He's my Heisman at the moment.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 10, 2012 10:57 PM (bS6uW)

466
Irongrampa, really? the 18.5 inch barrels seemed so long to me.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:58 PM (2rMmy)

467
394

361 Pretty good points there. I do think some people still voted for
Obama because he's nice and popular or something stupid like that. I
talked to a woman the other day that said she was glad that Obama won
because he is so handsome and Romney looks mean. She's pro-life,
pro-Israel, extremely conservative, and completely in the dark about
everything. How can the GOP overcome that? I don't think Reagan could
have overcome that ignorance.But I think that the GOP does need to stop
looking at network TV and cultural shows as a bad thing. People were
making fun of Obama for going on Entertainment Tonight instead of a
serious political show, but how many idiot women did he reach by going
on that show? The Grand Old Party just can't compete with Honey-Boo
Booers, women who need a husband instead of the government, and voter
fraud.

Posted by: Mo the Girl who thinks most of the swing states suck at November 10, 2012 10:40 PM (MtrZW)


I STILL don't get the "Obama is so handsome and likeable" crap... I don't think he's particularly handsome, and he's CERTAINLY not likeable - more like arrogant, condescending, and narcissistic... And Romney looks mean?? I really do think I am living in an alternate universe. Of course, I always thought Dick Cheney looked like a nice old grandfather, not Darth Vader Meanwhile, I didn't hear it, but apparently Jon Stewart made yet another Republicans/Confederacy "joke" the other day. Just how are we supposed to attract new people to the Republican Party if all they hear is how they'll be called racists for being Republicans? It's that sort of stereotyping that we have to somehow overcome.

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 10:58 PM (JwW4z)

468 Ever hear Mitt say anything nice about the TEA Party?

Did he ever even mention the TEA Party?

I voted for Mitt almost entirely as a vehicle for ousting Obama, otherwise I despised Mitt.

The model that says we must nominate a candidate that resides in the Middle has been proven wrong, again.

We must test the system by nominating a Conservative.

How else will we know if a Conservative can win?

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 10:58 PM (sRus3)

469 "Can't follow you down that road, jimi ray. Should I give up my opposition to abortion, too? Sorry, a lot of these positions aren't ones taken out of political convenience. Life is sacred, marriage is a sacrament, those are eternal truths and they are not up for negotiation."

are you kidding me?

you seriously have the gall to compare your "sacrament" of marriage to a respect for the sanctity of life?

you seriously want to compare two men marrying each other for love and a desire to responsibly commit their mutual future to each other to the termination of a foetus' life out of inconvenience to the irresponsible parents?

if we're the party of personal responsibility, we should commend gay folks who want to "settle down" and responsibly commit.

so this type of "reasoning" -- which doesn't really appear to be reasoned at all -- is precisely what i'm talking about.

you have no real reason to deny gays marriage besides "it's been that way for a long time". sorry, but to a lot of people who just don't see the harm in a consensual adult relationship being recognised by the state, that looks like a whole lotta bullying and spite.

people don't want to be a part of that anymore. it's bad enough to stand firm on an issue that is clearly going the other way -- that's like betting your life savings on a team you know is gonna lose just because they're your favourite team -- but to actually offer as reasoning "because it used to be like that" explicitly paints republicans as the Party Of Yesterday's Old And Busted Ideas.

and that's not sexy. say what you will, but sexiness helps win elections.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:58 PM (79EF9)

470 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (u58W2)

this is a good move. It plays they hypocrisy card on the left, which is the one they understand.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (ou/rY)

471 Didn't you suggest a Remington 870 yesterday? Or am I confusing my Morons again?


Is there any reason a person can't just shorten the barrel themselves after they buy it?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:44 PM (2rMmy)

870 is a good howver I am a fan of semi-autos; I believe they are as reliable as manually operated guns and offer an advantage in that if you are injured you only need one arm.

google randy weaver

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

472 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:58 PM (2rMmy)

I think that the NFA of 1934 had something to say about that.

18.5" is the legal minimum.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (GsoHv)

473 Congratulations, Mamas!

More American conservatives. . . I really like it. It gives me hope.

Posted by: i keep sayin' at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (W5c4e)

474 There are obviously a bunch of reasons Romney lost that have been rehashed everywhere, but if I ha to nail down te two biggest: 1.) the electorate wasn't as favorable to us as we thought it was and 2.) Romney didn't defend himself early enough and often enough.

The second one is a plague that's been ravaging the right since we Gingrich lost his spine in the mid-90s budget battles, through Rove, and onwards.

Clinton had a policy of never going to bed at night with an attack unanswered. That worked out well for him. For whatever reasons our guys have adopted the opposite approach. It has not, does not, and will not turn out well. No matter much they might dislike it, our guys have to get down into the mud, pick up a pen or get in front of a camera, and explain why we're right and the other the side is wrong.

If a perticular person is bad at that, designate somebody else in the leadership as the resident asshole. If they can't do it early and often, they have no business in politics.

Posted by: AD at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (qOojd)

475 We must test the system by nominating a Conservative.



THIS. I mean, what are we afraid of? Losing?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:00 PM (GEICT)

476 444 A pump with an 18 1/2" barrel really is short enough to move around with comfortably.


See, here's the thing. I don't want to move around comfortably. I want to be able to paint my walls with someone's guts if they break into my house. I want to do it in one or two shots, max.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (2rMmy)

Ha! I hear you. By "move around comfortably" I mean you can, for example, turn around in a hallway with the weapon mounted. And this weapon will paint your walls quite well--believe me.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:00 PM (IoNBC)

477 Wasn't me. I have an 1100 btw. Very solid semi-auto.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 10, 2012 11:00 PM (OjQYm)

478 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (Z9EHQ)

I have fired about 5,000 rounds through a Remington 1100, and it has never misfired, jammed, stovepiped, etc.

That's not a big sample, but it's a good start.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:00 PM (GsoHv)

479 osted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (79EF9)

I rarely come on the over night threads and am a dumbass but is this guy a moby piece of shit or is that just me?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 10, 2012 11:00 PM (++kZl)

480 No tips for service? Don't do that. The "discretionary" part of going to a restaruant is ... going to the restaurant. Better not to go than to stiff the waiter. Realize that, just like every other source of income these days, that waiter's tips are not fully his own. He's got to tip out the busboys, bartenders if he has them, sometimes the hostesses, sometimes the kitchen. And all that is calcuated on his daily sales. Then there's Uncle Sam. Waiters are paid less than minum wage because they are tipped employees, and often their paychecks don't cover what they owe in taxes. So they pay out on payday. And increasingly all of it is based on calculations of their sales. If you don't leave a tip, it's adouble hit. The guy still has to tip out on that sale for a loss, and he loses the opportunity cost of maybe having some other table during the lunch/dinner rush. So, if you go out, tip your waiters. But, I'm in agreement with your general plan otherwise. Best policy: don't go out. Cook at home. Be a good thing to learn if you don't know how.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (WcgMM)

481 "Lame, my friends, very lame. None of those three pretenders would be unbeaten in the SEC."

None of those three would have been unbeaten in the Big Ten, and we suck donkey ass this year.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (GZitp)

482 Anyone who's not excited about right wing school reform should at least be gung ho for support for home schooling.

If Joe and Jane America would rather educate their kids properly than have them forcibly indoctrinated in cultural Marxism and mugged at school, it should be a high priority of right wing politicians to help them.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (u58W2)

483 Again, iPhone typing. Apologies for typos

Posted by: AD at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (qOojd)

484 Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:00 PM (IoNBC)

Practice, practice, practice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (GsoHv)

485 Congratulations Lauren!

Enjoy the little ones - they grow up fast!

Goodnight all

Posted by: MountainTurtle at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (hjEPZ)

486 Well I delivered my 4th baby on election night.
Posted by: Lauren at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (wsGWu)



Excellent! Another future slave to serve our spawn! No doubt that child will grow up strong and work hard - FOR US.

Posted by: the welfare rats who just took over the US at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (jfeoD)

487 I rarely come on the over night threads and am a dumbass but is this guy a moby piece of shit or is that just me?

Nah, you're good. He's a moby piece of shit liar.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (bS6uW)

488
I took cold medicine
What was wrong with three fingers of Old GrandDad and a blanket?

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (+9AX9)

489 One has to ask- why does 75% of "R" voters, NOT know what Barry means?

Because like most voters they're uniformed, and like most Americans they don't know what socialism entails.

If every American knew as much as the commenters here, Obama would've lost by 80 percent. But we're in the minority.

My father--a former Exxon executive, veteran of the Coast Guard, and one of the smartest people I know--gets all his news from Fox, MSNBC, CNN, and the L.A. Times.

Although he's online, he never goes browsing for news. His routine is to read the paper while eating breakfast and watch the news while eating dinner. That's it.

Although he always votes straight Repub, he doesn't actually know much. For example, he says he doesn't know what we get out of our military alliance with Israel.

Also, here's another factor we have to take into consideration: Most people are soup by the time they're about twenty-five. They're finished. They're done. After that, very little new thinking takes places and very little new information penetrates.

Most people are generally unreachable. They know what they know, and that's it. To reach them, you have to do what the Dems do and data-mine on a microscopic level. You have to tailor your message to their preconceived notions.

It's tough, but it can be done.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (8HnZ+)

490 I hope nobody thinks I'm throwing off on Remingtons just because I'm happy with Mossberg. Remingtons are fine weapons.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (IoNBC)

491 Jennifer Griffin just tweeted:

Will post soon to Foxnews. com definitive piece on discrepancies and new questions following release of DoD timeline on Benghazi.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (piMMO)

492 yeah, jimi ray, sexiness wins elections, haha

Got behind a beat up car with two bumper stickers on it: One for Obama 2012. The other said, "Democrats are sexy. Who ever heard of getting a piece of elephant?"

People who vote on sexy factor are rather, uh, ignorant. And blind to top it off.

Posted by: i keep sayin' at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (W5c4e)

493 463
FL, VA, OH and PA need to change their states Constitutions to split
their electoral votes. It is criminal to let their hell hole / money pit
areas of their states decide elections. All of those states should
get'r done while they have GOP Govs.


Posted by: Deli LLama at November 10, 2012 10:57 PM (lGu1O)

Now THIS is an excellent idea... We don't need to throw out the electoral college, just change it to split the votes by district, like NE and ME already do. I wonder, has anyone run the numbers to see what effect that would have if all - or just certain - states were allocated like that?

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (JwW4z)

494 FL, VA, OH and PA need to change their states Constitutions to split their electoral votes.

FL should draw a line somewhere around the Everglades and cut loose the regions south of there. If FL still owns Orlando after this, then impose a fat tax on Disneyworld. Also FL should impose one of those three-strikes laws so that the felons move south into "South Florida" or whatever the libs wanna call it.

VA, OH, and PA - I don't know.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (QTHTd)

495 @479

Yes, he is a donkey raping shit eater and an uncle fucker.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (0fxcV)

496 Regardless of what gun you buy, you gotta shoot it regularly and anyone else who might need it has to as well. I've been putting a box of essentially the same shells thru my super 90 once a month for almost 15 years, less time overseas. It is like an extension of my arm. My wife and older kids are ok with it as well.

Another thing with yOur new shotty, you need to be acquainted with the noise and flash. So go out in the country and fire it at night a few times and slip your ear protection a few times at an indoor range.

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (u5ozF)

497
Short barrel is a relative term. I found out yesterday that the barrels can't be any shorter than 18.5 inches now
Back when I had an FFL 18" barrel and overall lenght of 28" was legal. You may want to consulte state laws though.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (+9AX9)

498 More American conservatives. . . I really like it. It gives me hope.
Posted by: i keep sayin' at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (W5c4e)


Maybe we should all reposition on the abortion thing, and let them die off. Fuck 'em all. If that's how they want it, let it be. I'm done trying to save them, since they don't give a shit.

Posted by: kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (cQmXn)

499 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (u58W2)

By the time it gets to Barry's desk, if it ever gets that far, it will be so watered down it will make no difference.

It will never happen.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (sRus3)

500 I mean you can, for example, turn around in a hallway with the weapon mounted.


I love men, oh how I adore men. Lovely, deliciously brave men, who wander down hallways to look for the bad guys.

But this lil redhaired girl just gonna wait til the muther fucker comes in her bedroom and blast the shit out of him. Preferably with a slug.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (2rMmy)

501 No, I'm NOT kidding you, jimi ray. Marriage is a sacrament. I can't believe you'd expect me or anyother Catholic tosupport gay marriage, or abortion,, or even "free" birth control for that matter.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (WcgMM)

502 Well I delivered my 4th baby on election night.

Posted by: Lauren at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (wsGWu)


*****

Congratulations!

All the very, very best to your family.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:04 PM (piMMO)

503 The way I figure it , the "Quiet Secession" of just flat passive refusing to cooperate with D.C. on all matters not specifically constitutional law enforcement or national security related will have the effect of causing some pain to conservatives who generally are willing to accept a little belt-tightening.


Passive resistance. Operation State Sit-In.
or something.

It would be like hanging a giant EXIT sign for the denizens of the blue skidmarks in the middle of the otherwise beautifully red states.

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 10, 2012 11:04 PM (EZl54)

504
Thank you, everyone. We are so blessed. Quite honestly, holding her was all that got me through election night. I've pretty much shut out the outside world. I don't really know how to cope with the reality of 4 more years of Obama other than to focus all my energy on my family.

Posted by: Lauren at November 10, 2012 11:04 PM (wsGWu)

505
Early thoughts on Romney's campaign:

1. Romney needed to spin "Bain Capital" into ".800 batting average getting failing companies back to health and keeping jobs, not someone with a .200 Present! average"

2. Romney needed to spin "Wealthy Businessman" into "Successful Leader who performs, not Solyndra, Fisker, ... or someone wasting $150million on failed Chicago educational incentives"

3. Romney needed to spin his US immigration policy into reciprocity and respect for existing laws ... and talk about Mexico's immigration laws ... ouch.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (KMLFi)

506 Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (IoNBC)

Never had much interest in Mossbergs, but my sister just bought a Mossberg 20 guage pump, and it is a fine little shotgun.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (GsoHv)

507 491
Jennifer Griffin just tweeted:

Will post soon to Foxnews. com
definitive piece on discrepancies and new questions following release of
DoD timeline on Benghazi.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (piMMO)

Thanks for the heads-up... This is going to get even more interesting.

Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (JwW4z)

508 470 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (u58W2)

this is a good move. It plays they hypocrisy card on the left, which is the one they understand.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 10:59 PM (ou/rY)
-
Keep saying it.

It will take much persistence to get this done, but when it's done it will be worth it.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (u58W2)

509
When "your" leaders say "You have nothing to fear from my opponent!", when it is obvious to rational people that you do have a lot to fear, then there seems little sense in voting at all.


When "your" leaders say "I slept like a baby knowing that my party lost!" with a subtext of "but I am still in power", then rational people that soon determine that there seems little sense in voting at all.


When "your" leaders shirk their fundamental Constitutional duties by refusing to actually use the power of the purse because there might be ripples in the inside the beltway pond, then rational people wonder just what duties their elected representatives will perform.


When "your" leaders consistently write laws for you and exempt themselves (Obamacare and insider trading), then rational people see fewer and fewer reasons to respect the law and the legislative process.


When "your" leaders offer you free shit bought by confiscation of your neighbor's property and efforts, rational people decide they better get on the bandwagon and scarf up as much of that free shit as they can while there is still something left to confiscate.



Posted by: Hrothgar at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (Cnqmv)

510 Arbalest, I was looking for a pump action cross-bow

thx for your input. Agreed, bows (and guns) require a lot of practice

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (JMmQ9)

511 But this lil redhaired girl just gonna wait til the muther fucker comes in her bedroom and blast the shit out of him. Preferably with a slug.


Woah woah woah woah woah. A...ginger?

Was this known to the Horde?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (GEICT)

512 Ever hear Mitt say anything nice about the TEA Party?

No, but I did hear him say nice things about the opposition in Syria, in the debates.

Al-Qaeda's kinda like the Tea Party

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (QTHTd)

513 The scalps that I desperately want are those of the
Media and the Hollywood Left. The elitist hacks that brought about this
shit and the wealthy fucktards that define hypocrisy. If they can be
brought low than I will be satisfied.


Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 10:08 PM

Until Hollywood and the MBM, which are owned by the same corporations are bankrupted or reduced in wealth greatly, we're losing the information wars

Posted by: kbdabear at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (wwsoB)

514 "The electorate didn't see Romney as a man of "impeccable character" because he let the Democrats define him as a "vulture capitalist.""

i think ace made the point that romney's appeal was pretty much personal..."elect me cuz i was successful in the PE boom of the 80s and 90s."

ace was rigth on time when he said that the presidency is bigger than one man...barack obama's lofty ideas, empty as they turned out to be, were mesmerically inspirational to an american public that thrives on shoot-for-the-stars sensationalism.

"elect me cuz i'm really good at making myself money" just wasn't electrifying enough an appeal to rouse a movement to counter obama's own. i'm not sure romney was ever equipped to inspire.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (79EF9)

515 /do I need a sarctag?

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (QTHTd)

516 kalneva, That's what I've kind of given into. I'm pro-life, but hey, if they want to kill their own, go for it. They don't seem to like us interfering in foreign matters where people are being oppressed and murdered by evil dictators either. They don't really care as much as they say they do.

Course, wouldn't it be nice if we could've adopted all the children they've aborted (since we're so responsible and all that) and raised those adopted children to turn on all their birth parents who intended to murder them?

Posted by: i keep sayin' at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (W5c4e)

517 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (GsoHv)


Hey, welcome back!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (2rMmy)

518 "We must test the system by nominating a Conservative.



How else will we know if a Conservative can win?"


We should nominate a conservative that is unapologetic about their ideology and is happy to try and sell it. They should also be energetic in exposing the Democrats as the socialist they are, and the damage that they're doing. Fuck hoping to win, losing is already baked into the cake.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (GZitp)

519 How to profit from the Barackalypse?

Remember the Chatty Kathy Doll?

The new "Baracka Talka Doll"

Says: Pay your fair share, Spread the wealth, Millionaires and Billionaires, My Sweetie Michelle etc.

This doll is made of the same material as the "super ball", the one that bounced forever.

Market to disenchanted and frustrsted folks.

You get the picture. And Made in China CHEAP!

Name for Ohio Dan: The Dan Plan

Posted by: Neighborhood Millionaire at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (tsyDw)

520 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (2rMmy)

Lots of kick for very little increase in stopping power. A 12 guage loaded with #2 or #4 buck is a potent self-defense weapon....as long as you know how to use it. Practice, practice, practice!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:07 PM (GsoHv)

521 I wasn't a Newt guy, but it seems like the one bright spot of his campaign was him hitting back against the media, this seemed to have really fired people up. Maybe this is what we need, a candidate who goes full out against the media and the left. It might wake some folks up, who cares about offending people's sensibilities.

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 10, 2012 11:07 PM (nD2pm)

522 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:06 PM (2rMmy)

10+ days without power. Yuck.

I'm back in the 1st world, except for the occupant of the White House.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:08 PM (GsoHv)

523 343
334 "Then, after I become legally a polar bear..."One minor detail. Polar bear hunting season.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 10:29 PM (+9AX9)



Polar bears can also legally hunt back...anywhay, only the Inuit can legally hunt them.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 10, 2012 10:31 PM (DeRsD)


And Inuits fucking hate polar bears. They don't mind shooting them at any time.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 10, 2012 11:08 PM (Ohhk6)

524 Yeah.... Americans should get on board with live birth abortions. We need to appeal to that subset of a subset of a special interest group or we'll never win another election.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (jucos)

525
Woah woah woah woah woah. A...ginger?

Was this known to the Horde?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (GEICT)


Oh, yes, I think so!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (2rMmy)

526 I want to see the movie "Lincoln' badly, but I'm NOT. DreamWorks gives an awful lot of dough to the libs. I'm really boycotting them. Yeah, I'm one small person, but it's gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: i keep sayin' at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (W5c4e)

527 Congrats, elizabethe!

Posted by: Lauren at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (wsGWu)

528


Time for the old folk. Stay strong,people--next few years are going to be difficult, but we'll prevail.

After all we ARE Americans.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (NGuNB)

529 Practice, practice, practice.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (GsoHv)

Absolutely. I've been through this several times with friends who want to buy their first home-defense shotgun. They don't work like the movies.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (IoNBC)

530 Maybe we should all reposition on the abortion thing, and let them die off. Fuck 'em all. If that's how they want it, let it be. I'm done trying to save them, since they don't give a shit.
Posted by: kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (cQmXn)



I've come to support your point. I hate abortion for the murder that it is. That said, what kind of a fool am I for objecting to my mortal enemies murdering their children? Let them die.

Posted by: the welfare rats who just took over the US at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (jfeoD)

531 kk, polar bear is out. Going for Bald Eagle. Then I can get a really cool shaved head, too. Maybe a sexy talon tat. Sexy wins, I'm told!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 11:10 PM (WcgMM)

532 521 I wasn't a Newt guy, but it seems like the one bright spot of his campaign was him hitting back against the media, this seemed to have really fired people up. Maybe this is what we need, a candidate who goes full out against the media and the left. It might wake some folks up, who cares about offending people's sensibilities.
-
Get people fired up and lead them nowhere, or get them fired up to repeal the Hollywood tax cuts?

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 11:10 PM (u58W2)

533 525
Woah woah woah woah woah. A...ginger?

Was this known to the Horde?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (GEICT)


Oh, yes, I think so!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (2rMmy)



Huh. Well I obv did not. Hi fellow ginger. (They wife swears I'm not, but I think she's just in denial.)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:10 PM (GEICT)

534 as long as you know how to use it.


Ninja, please. I'm a redneck. I know how to use a shotgun. I hate the damn things and they leave me in technicolor, but I know how to shoot.


We were three weeks without power a few years ago. Ice storm broke all the poles. No running water, either.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:11 PM (2rMmy)

535 The founders intended for the Congress, specifically the plurality of the House and super majority requirements in the Senate to protect small states and individual rights. Well lets do it: ditch boner in favor of someone who will fight for every dollar, cobble together 41 Senators who onl know how to say No. HOw about Gowdy for Speaker.

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 11:11 PM (u5ozF)

536
Instapundit is pushing this idea, and he's not even a conservative. Everyone on the right should be pushing it all the time, in power or out of power, for decades if need be, till it develops the needed momentum. It's a game changer.

Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.


----------------


You're forgetting who the preezy is. It will never happen before 2016. And if the trend in the national mentality holds out, it won't happen in 2020 either.

We need to start thinking on the lines of detaching ourselves from DC. The nation that we lived in Nov 5th is mostly gone now.

Posted by: Soona at November 10, 2012 11:12 PM (h8o92)

537 Posted by: Cowboy at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM (WcgMM)

I woke up in Vegas on Wednesday, vowing I wouldn't fuckin' tip anyone. Guess how that turned out. This is why we're different from the cocksuckers. Sorry. I will always reward work, esp in the service industry. Most of those people, even if they voted for the way they've been programmed to, are not guilty of being Obama-phoners.

Posted by: kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:12 PM (cQmXn)

538 Woah woah woah woah woah. A...ginger?



Was this known to the Horde?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (GEICT)



Yes. We just didn't tell you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 11:12 PM (Gk3SS)

539 Ooops . Sock fail on 530. Dammit...

Posted by: Reactionary at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (jfeoD)

540 Huh. Well I obv did not. Hi fellow ginger. (They wife swears I'm not, but I think she's just in denial.)
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:10 PM (GEICT)

That's cuz you shave all your hair off, son!

And howdy right back at ya. I am undeniably redheaded.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (2rMmy)

541 Watch "Agenda: Grinding America Down" documentary by Curtis Bowers...Explains startlingly how we got here and who drove the bus...Also, get your kids out of public school!

Posted by: bentouttaround at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (g8ZRe)

542 Alton Jackson: I think Barnett makes a lever-action crossbow. I forget the model, but it's the 150lb recurve all-black one with the under-arm extension on the end of the stock. It's been around for years.

I think everyone else uses the foot loop, and perhaps the 2:1 draw pulley. If you have money, get a battery-powered electric draw.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (KMLFi)

543 Dear Krakatoa, You are very funny. Thanks for lifting my spirits a bit this week.

Posted by: Hamilton Burger at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (kyFvp)

544 I've come to support your point. I hate abortion for the murder that it is. That said, what kind of a fool am I for objecting to my mortal enemies murdering their children? Let them die.


Posted by: the welfare rats who just took over the US at November 10, 2012 11:09 PM (jfeoD)


I'd feel better about them murdering their own kids, if they didn't want to make me pay for them to have that privilege!

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 10, 2012 11:14 PM (Cnqmv)

545 538 Woah woah woah woah woah. A...ginger?



Was this known to the Horde?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:05 PM (GEICT)


Yes. We just didn't tell you.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 11:12 PM (Gk3SS)



Oooohhhh, Alex the Lurker.


And your words, they hurt.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:14 PM (GEICT)

546 But this lil redhaired girl just gonna wait til the muther fucker comes
in her bedroom and blast the shit out of him. Preferably with a slug.


****

The same here.

I always leave a light on in the house so I can see the profile of anyone entering my bedroom long before they spot me.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:14 PM (piMMO)

547 540 That's cuz you shave all your hair off, son!

And howdy right back at ya. I am undeniably redheaded.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (2rMmy)



Lmao. Nice.


Can't deny that my beard is red.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:15 PM (GEICT)

548 NDH, even an inertial semi auto.?
I think this refers to "blow back" like a .45 etc.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:16 PM (+9AX9)

549 i'm not sure romney was ever equipped to inspire.

Sure he was. "I will repeal Obamacare." What more do you need?

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:16 PM (FcR7P)

550 Before it comes down to a crossbow for home defense, I'm getting a boar spear: http://tinyurl.com/adhuc3o

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 11:17 PM (u5ozF)

551 But this lil redhaired girl just gonna wait til the muther fucker comes in her bedroom and blast the shit out of him. Preferably with a slug.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (2rMmy)

Actually, that's a good strategy. If you have a cellphone and a shotgun beside your bed, you can call 911 when you hear an intruder, then prepare to defend your position if you have to.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:17 PM (IoNBC)

552 @536 Soona, again agreed. See my comment @503

Trying to turn the dial to the right on federal centralized power is not the Constitutional remedy.

States rights need to do the same thing socialism and tyranny did:


Make a huge comeback.

Posted by: T.Hunter at November 10, 2012 11:17 PM (EZl54)

553 Sure he was. "I will repeal Obamacare." What more do you need?
Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:16 PM (FcR7P)

To hear it from a guy who did not install RomneyCare.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (sRus3)

554 You're not producing any evidence, just your delusional beliefs.
Something you tell yourself to hold on to some pathetic hope for a
eventual victory.
My fucking evidence is a 332-206 asswhipping.


Delusional is insisting that the public thought Romney was a man of impeccable character when the exit polling is entirely consistent: The public didn't trust him because they thought he'd favor the wealthy over the average American.

You can say "fuck" all you want, Samuel, but it doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong. While you and I know that Romney is a man of impeccable character, the voting public didn't. The reason they didn't is because the Republicans let the Democrats define Romney.

For some reason you're invested in the idea that we're doooooooooooomed, but I'm not. We just disagree, that's all.

I mean, "I fuckin' disagree with you. Wake the fuck up!"

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (1Ic1F)

555 NDH, even an inertial semi auto.?
I think this refers to "blow back" like a .45 etc.


****

If there's something that won't kick the snot out of my upper body, then I can probably fire it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (piMMO)

556 Good *ow* evening.

Odds of woik internet working are probably zero to nil. I hold out hope.

Howdy, ya'll!

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (LUnTP)

557 NDH! Are you by any chance watching Action News???


Local story, Wounded Warrior Project teamed up with volunteers to build a home for a wounded vet.


"There was a small setback when someone stole the truck containing all the tools collected for the job."


The fuck?!?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (GEICT)

558 Can't deny that my beard is red.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:15 PM (GEICT)

I bet that's not all. Such a shame y'all insist on wasting all that, sigh. You younger generation don't know what you're missing!

Just teasing, I know you have your own preferences!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (2rMmy)

559 Robert!!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:19 PM (2rMmy)

560 Since we've followed the UK into the pits of nihilistic socialism with PC multiculturalism, massive big brother oversight in exchange for free shit, let's just tell the British to take us back

I figure confusion over which side of the road to drive on will kill half of the Obullshit voters

Posted by: kbdabear at November 10, 2012 11:19 PM (wwsoB)

561 The same here.I always leave a light on in the house so I can see the profile of anyone entering my bedroom long before they spot me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:14 PM

Profile them? That's a dog whistle, right there.

Posted by: otho at November 10, 2012 11:19 PM (yBF/9)

562 Actually, that's a good strategy. If you have a cellphone and a shotgun
beside your bed, you can call 911 when you hear an intruder, then
prepare to defend your position if you have to.


****

Add one more thing to your bedside: Your car keys.

If you have the device with the panic button you can set it off and draw attention to your home and, hopefully, scare off the intruder before you have to kill stop them.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:20 PM (piMMO)

563 To hear it from a guy who did not install RomneyCare.

Well, he wasn't on the ballot.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (FcR7P)

564 Is there a reason Paul Ryan can't be Speaker of the House? 'cause I'd cough up pay-per-view monies to see that shit

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (JMmQ9)

565 560 KBdabear,

You know I was looking at barry Choom and QE II the other night pondering the same thing....?

We left Jolly ole' precisely why?

We're ruled over by a fucking queen now anyway.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (LRFds)

566 "I am undeniably redheaded."

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:13 PM (2rMmy)

Prove it.

Tastefully of course. We have standards here.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (GsoHv)

567
Profile them? That's a dog whistle, right there.


****


How long before the libs show up to picket in front of my house?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (piMMO)

568 Posted by: kbdabear at November 10, 2012 11:19 PM (wwsoB)


This is not a bad idea, at all. Not at all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (2rMmy)

569 I hate having to stipulate that partial birth abortion is abhorrent, and a deadly sin against both man and god. This illustrates why this issue is important. But I stick with my point that, if my enemies, (and they are enemies, at this point) choose not to procreate, so be it. Maybe all those gubmint contraceptives will help us reconcile these positions. /

Posted by: kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:22 PM (cQmXn)

570 Exactly NDH. Your better inertial operated semi auto shotguns, should be ok for use with medical implants. Back at HK in he 90s we had a document from a doctor supporting the use of the Benelli for a police chief who had a medical implant; it kept him for forced retirement.

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 11:22 PM (u5ozF)

571 558
I bet that's not all. Such a shame y'all insist on wasting all that, sigh. You younger generation don't know what you're missing!

Just teasing, I know you have your own preferences!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (2rMmy)




Hahaha this is headed downhill. I'll say this, there's a lot of very sensitive skin down there. Hair blocks that. Waaaaay more sensation without hair.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:22 PM (GEICT)

572 it really is time for the republican party to get on the right winning side of history on those issues.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine. Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 10, 2012 11:22 PM (YxaXw)

573 Ma!!!!

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2012 11:22 PM (LUnTP)

574 491 Jennifer Griffin just tweeted:

Will post soon to Foxnews. com definitive piece on discrepancies and new questions following release of DoD timeline on Benghazi.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:02 PM (piMMO)

Obamas voters wont care. Obama could have murdered them himself, and they wouldnt care.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 10, 2012 11:22 PM (++kZl)

575 Prove it.

Tastefully of course. We have standards here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (GsoHv)


I had a pic up in the Yahoo thing for awhile.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:23 PM (2rMmy)

576 Is there a reason Paul Ryan can't be Speaker of the House? 'cause I'd cough up pay-per-view monies to see that shit


****

I'd rather see Trey Gowdy in that slot.

Ryan is fantastic with the maths, but Gowdy has the backbone and the skills to take it to old Harry and Nancy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:23 PM (piMMO)

577
Actually, that's a good strategy. If you have a cellphone and a shotgun beside your bed, you can call 911 when you hear an intruder, then prepare to defend your position if you have to.
Read and article from England. Guy calls to report an intuder, they responded the couldn't have anybody there for half an hour. Guy hangs up calls back, "Never mind I just shot him." Police showed up in 10min. Cops said "I thought you said you shot him?" " I thought you said you couldn't make it."

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:23 PM (+9AX9)

578 Well, he wasn't on the ballot.
Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:21 PM (FcR7P)

Maybe if he had been on the ballot we'd be discussing other things right now.

I voted for Mitt even though I thought he was a RINO dick, but other folks, lots of them, could not make the move.

That's not entirely their fault. Mitt shares the blame.

Posted by: eman at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (sRus3)

579
Tastefully of course. We have standards here.



We do? Since when?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (GEICT)

580 Huge electrical storm just started here. See you later. Jimi's a troll not a Moby.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (nkiQM)

581 Obamas voters wont care. Obama could have murdered them himself, and they wouldnt care.


****

I see you're giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (piMMO)

582 VA, OH, and PA - I don't know.


Posted by: boulder hobo at November 10, 2012 11:03 PM (QTHTd)
Check the county maps. As for OH and PA mostly all red except for the hell holes that either had 99 or 104 percent voter turn out.

Posted by: Deli LLama at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (lGu1O)

583 And your words, they hurt.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:14 PM (GEICT)


I've been working on my aim.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (Gk3SS)

584 366 Boulder Hobo,

hey BH I just want you to know that when the GOP you fucked gets out of the way on any Bill of Rights neutral make a wish for the retard in chief harebrained idea...

that's a gift from me to you buddy....

you think there's no difference between Romney and Obama motherfucker we're about to find out.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:25 PM (LRFds)

585 Jimi's a troll not a Moby.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (nkiQM)

I'll print 1,000 AOSHQ T-shirts at cost if Ace adds registration.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (GsoHv)

586 583 Mega,

I'm on board.

1) Marry as many of anything you want

2) abort 'em all

3) spend it spend it all

Let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (LRFds)

587 Anyone going to be watching SNL tonight?

Yeah, a wide disparity between male/womyn voting...the Pres getting 39% of the white vote...the politically informed knowing he's a liar...this will end well.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (YMqWj)

588 Way behind, as usual at work, but I also want to say kudos to irongrandpa for his never surrender attitude.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (d7H2D)

589 584 I've been working on my aim.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (Gk3SS)



*looks around nervously*


Ummm.....the apple is on my head ma'am. Why are you aiming that low? What are you...? Wait! No!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (GEICT)

590 Exactly NDH. Your better inertial operated semi auto shotguns, should
be ok for use with medical implants. Back at HK in he 90s we had a
document from a doctor supporting the use of the Benelli for a police
chief who had a medical implant; it kept him for forced retirement.


****

Thanks to my fellow morons fr the tips.

When I was shopping, it never would have occurred to me to look for anything like that and, after the implant, it never occurred to me that something like that would be okay.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (piMMO)

591 If there's something that won't kick the snot out of my upper body, then I can probably fire it.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (piMMO)

There are ways to reduce perceived recoil if you're recoil-averse, and I recommend them. Butt-pads, reduced-recoil loads, and, as a last resort, specialty stocks are available.

Posted by: Scobface, Staying Positive at November 10, 2012 11:27 PM (IoNBC)

592 585 CBD,

I'll chip in and of course never post again I already screwed up and have my name way too high on the Ogabe naughty list at open secrets...


Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:27 PM (LRFds)

593
Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
Find somebody with a 12 gauge to shoot. You may prefer a 20 gauge. The resulting effect will be the same. Onthe intruderanyway.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:27 PM (+9AX9)

594 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (GEICT)

1. Human
2. Genetically female
3. Uh....some other stuff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:27 PM (GsoHv)

595 Anyone going to be watching SNL tonight?


****

Ann Hathaway? No thank you.

She's a screaming lib and will no doubt be unbearable

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:28 PM (piMMO)

596 Yea, 911 is great for medical emergencies, but if someone's in my house, all bets are off. Especially now that I am in the woods.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:28 PM (2rMmy)

597 587 Big Fat meanie,

If I wanted to watch Barack Obama get a blowjob I could replay his and Chris Christie's visit.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:28 PM (LRFds)

598 And being full of coffee and apple-y goodness, time for me to get ready for woik. Too soon. Bbarely had to time to say hello.

Good night, 'Rons and 'Ettes! Fare thee well!

Posted by: Robert at November 10, 2012 11:28 PM (LUnTP)

599 When the next wave of the recession (or whatever we're calling it today) hits, one of the first things people will stop spending money on is the theater. Too bad this will affect the theater business, but I hope Hollywood shrivels up and dies.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (DoZD+)

600 I stick with my point that, if my enemies, choose not to procreate, so be it.

Think of the over-the-top horror ads a fictional Nazi party could pitch to Obama supporters in support of partial-birth abortion. *shudder*

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (FcR7P)

601
There are ways to reduce perceived recoil if you're recoil-averse, and I recommend them. Butt-pads, reduced-recoil loads, and, as a last resort, specialty stocks are available.
There are inertia reducers that can be installed in the stock. Don't know how well they work.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (+9AX9)

602 594 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:24 PM (GEICT)

1. Human
2. Genetically female
3. Uh....some other stuff.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:27 PM (GsoHv)



Yeah, but you told an Ette (a ginger Ette!) to prove it tastefully. I think that's a fine.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (GEICT)

603 599 Katya,

They fund him too.

No mercy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:30 PM (LRFds)

604 There are ways to reduce perceived recoil if you're recoil-averse, and I
recommend them. Butt-pads, reduced-recoil loads, and, as a last
resort, specialty stocks are available.


****

In an emergency, I'd fire a Bazooka if I had one handy, but the problem is in being able to fire it often enough to be comfortable with it.

The repeated pounding could be risky.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:30 PM (piMMO)

605 mitt joke, snl? i'm muting volume the whole show just to see ann.

Posted by: derit at November 10, 2012 11:31 PM (I88Jc)

606 557
NDH! Are you by any chance watching Action News???





Local story, Wounded Warrior Project teamed up with volunteers to build a home for a wounded vet.





"There was a small setback when someone stole the truck containing all the tools collected for the job."





The fuck?!?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:18 PM (GEICT)

They needed to talk to us before building. It's a darn shame that happened to them.

Posted by: IBEW, Local 348 at November 10, 2012 11:31 PM (Ohhk6)

607 Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (DoZD+)

Actually, during the depression movie going was one of the few places where people spent their money. it's pure escapism.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:31 PM (GsoHv)

608 NDH, if you call Benelli USA, not your local dealer, the hq in Maryland, their customer service should have some guidance for you. Your local retailer will likely not know how to answer your requirements.

Posted by: Jean at November 10, 2012 11:31 PM (49lPc)

609 I voted for Mitt even though I thought he was a RINO dick, but other folks, lots of them, could not make the move.



That's not entirely their fault. Mitt shares the blame.


Well, it's their fault for refusing to inform themselves about the stakes. Now they get to learn firsthand.

There's a great line in the Monkees' movie Head: "Of course you'll listen. Now that it's too late."

We'll see how everyone's feeling after the massive rounds of layoffs hit, nobody hired for the next four years, and huge numbers of full-time employees either have their hours cut to 29 a week or have their health insurance dropped.

Posted by: Llarry at November 10, 2012 11:31 PM (1Ic1F)

610 604 Niedermayer's dead horse,

Cop friend of mine swears you use a mid power 20 ga. for a nice recoil light handy happy stick....

I like 12 ga. but he said you have better response and control w/the 12....

food for thought or eat the increased cost of the old 28 Ga.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (LRFds)

611 Ha! Hubby just spent two hoursactively engaged ina flame war on FFB thread, (which he instigated, to be fair, but only by calling out stupid O voters). Now he's passed out on couch with Roadhouse on the TV! Oh, lord, I pray for the sanguinity. I haven't had a good night's sleep all week.

Posted by: kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (cQmXn)

612 hi all

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (4ZgqQ)

613 It is a pump but this may be more MissTammy's speed.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (Z9EHQ)

614 612 chemjeff,

good to see you....

hey SNL decided to stay edgy and ignore the butcher of Benghazi's bullshit another week

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:34 PM (LRFds)

615
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (DoZD+)

Actually, during the depression movie going was one of the few places where people spent their money. it's pure escapism.






But now it's $9 a ticket here. Other places it's higher. I just can't afford that anymore.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:34 PM (DoZD+)

616 Evening all,
I have an odd question. I've been taking notes about the weaponry like crazy, but I've never shot anything (except a bow, a few times). Problem - I don't have depth perception to speak of. One eye farsighted, one nearsighted - they take turns. Would I still be able to shoot well, or should I look into alternatives? Do you use both eyes or one to aim?

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at November 10, 2012 11:34 PM (49nkq)

617 615 Katya,

they did it for the air conditioning....


Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:34 PM (LRFds)

618 "When the next wave of the recession (or whatever we're calling it today) hits, one of the first things people will stop spending money on is the theater. Too bad this will affect the theater business, but I hope Hollywood shrivels up and dies."

sadly, it doesn't work that way at all...hollywood's box-office income was hardly affected by the prior recession.

i guess folks are quicker to change their eating habits than they are to jettison any entertainment options.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 11:35 PM (79EF9)

619 Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (LRFds)

I weigh 220 pounds, so the recoil from a 12 is easily manageable. But I watched my sister have a bit of trouble with her new 20, so I think your cop friend is correct.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:35 PM (GsoHv)

620 You know, speaking of not being able to depend on 911, I was watching some news coverage about the after math of Sandy and I was STUNNED at some of the stuff I heard coming out of people's mouths.

Like the freaking Governor, not being able to comprehend that the electric company could be out of poles. Does he think they keep a spare set around somewhere?? I mean, yes, they keep extra, but in a huge storm like that, if they all get snapped, they can't just run around and replace every single pole in a day or two.


Also, there was this big burly guy, bitching about how no one had come around to tell them if it was safe to turn the power on. I'm like...there is still a foot of water on the ground and you're wondering if you can plug something in, really???


These people have no idea how to fend for themselves. That's what being a Liberal does to your brain, I guess.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:35 PM (2rMmy)

621 616 IL,

You use one eye for a rifle or for point fire with a pistol.

You might go to a shop and ask to see what a long eye relief reflex scope does for you.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:36 PM (LRFds)

622 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (Z9EHQ)

I'll be in my bunk!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:36 PM (GsoHv)

623 Katya,

they did it for the air conditioning....


Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:34 PM (LRFds)Repeat: $9 a ticket.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:36 PM (DoZD+)

624
I have an odd question. I've been taking notes about the weaponry like crazy, but I've never shot anything (except a bow, a few times). Problem - I don't have depth perception to speak of. One eye farsighted, one nearsighted - they take turns. Would I still be able to shoot well, or should I look into alternatives? Do you use both eyes or one to aim?
If you use a rifled shotgun barrel you can cover your living room with both eyes closed.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:36 PM (+9AX9)

625 NDH! Are you by any chance watching Action News???








Local story, Wounded Warrior Project teamed up with volunteers to build a home for a wounded vet.








"There was a small setback when someone stole the truck containing all the tools collected for the job."






*****

No! Pricks!

I've seen in the vets office a few times as well as on Craigslist a posting for a companion dog which was stolen from a WW. There's a $1600 reward for its return.

Just awful.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:36 PM (piMMO)

626 618 Jimi Ray,

yet more evidence I am not really a person I guess.

I killed cable at the start of the year and never looked back and I am about to kill the internet.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:37 PM (LRFds)

627 anyone want to hear something stupid?

I have to sit on a board so we can consider a guy watching girls get some brazillian waxings online is a violation of porn policy. no privates only women who put videos of brazilians up for everyone to see.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:37 PM (Z9EHQ)

628 587
Anyone going to be watching SNL tonight?



Yeah, a wide disparity between male/womyn voting...the Pres getting
39% of the white vote...the politically informed knowing he's a
liar...this will end well.





Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 10, 2012 11:26 PM (YMqWj)

It would be interesting if they brought up the "racial divide" of the election since SNL is the MSNBC of late night TV.

Posted by: IBEW, Local 348 at November 10, 2012 11:37 PM (Ohhk6)

629 "When the next wave of the recession (or whatever we're calling it today) hits, one of the first things people will stop spending money on is the theater."

lol keep dreaming

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (Td9D+)

630 623 Katya,

Yeah I know just saying.


I am waiting 'til midweek next week to decide whether to swear a bloodoath against pop culture consumption and start agitating DC for a media tax hike.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (LRFds)

631 Do you use both eyes or one to aim?

I am right handed but left eye'd ...

Easier to shoot left eye'd and train the left hand, I found.

Right eye lazy, i.e. focuses slightly after the left. So not the greatest depth perception in the world.

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (gh+mp)

632 hi sven

well of course SNL only does humor sketches on issues that *matter* like mitt Romney's tax.returns

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (4ZgqQ)

633 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (Z9EHQ)

I'll be in my bunk!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:36 PM (GsoHv)

it is good looking but the 1100, as you and Eisenhorn mentioned is my favorite.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (Z9EHQ)

634 I have an odd question. I've been taking notes about the weaponry like
crazy, but I've never shot anything (except a bow, a few times).
Problem - I don't have depth perception to speak of. One eye
farsighted, one nearsighted - they take turns. Would I still be able to
shoot well, or should I look into alternatives? Do you use both eyes
or one to aim?


****

When I took my CCW training they taught us to identify our dominant eye, and then to use it for aiming.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (piMMO)

635 That's not entirely their fault. Mitt shares the blame.

If they couldn't make the slightest effort to think, (I'm assuming that the 68% are entirely informed by the MFM), then I don't think any candidate could have moved them. Certainly, no MFM portrayal of our candidate will ever move them.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (FcR7P)

636 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:32 PM (Z9EHQ)



oooh, that looks wayyyyy cool!!!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (2rMmy)

637 chemjeff!

well?

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:39 PM (ou/rY)

638 The repeated pounding could be risky.






These people have no idea how to fend for themselves. That's what being a Liberal does to your brain, I guess.



My wife usually yells at the tv "And this idiot has kids I garauntee you!" She's now added "and I bet he voted!"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:39 PM (GEICT)

639 oooh, that looks wayyyyy cool!!!!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:38 PM (2rMmy)

yeah it is - for 30,000 there is a plasma upgrade.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:39 PM (Z9EHQ)

640 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:35 PM (2rMmy)

The linemen finally arrived after 10 days, and I went outside to shoot the breeze with them. I thanked them, offered beer (tongue-in-cheek) and was all smiles.

They looked at me like I was a lunatic, and asked why I was so chipper. I said that my family was safe, my friends were safe, and my house was only lightly damaged.

Shit happens, and whether we like it or not, we have no choice but to deal with it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:40 PM (GsoHv)

641 How was the skating, cj???

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:40 PM (2rMmy)

642 did you "break the ice"?

Posted by: derit at November 10, 2012 11:40 PM (I88Jc)

643 ah well the thing is I am wondering...spend 500+ a year on the movies made by people who hate me and leave me "meh?" often as not or buy another gun....

guess which I am leaning towards these days?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (LRFds)

644 The linemen finally arrived after 10 days, and I went outside to shoot the breeze with them. I thanked them, offered beer (tongue-in-cheek) and was all smiles.

They looked at me like I was a lunatic, and asked why I was so chipper. I said that my family was safe, my friends were safe, and my house was only lightly damaged.

Shit happens, and whether we like it or not, we have no choice but to deal with it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:40 PM (GsoHv)

you have me sympathy. I was out nearly seven days. have you had a shower?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

645 elizabethe you'll be happy to know that I managed not to fall down

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (4ZgqQ)

646 Nice, cbd. I'm sure they appreciated your kindness.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (2rMmy)

647
How was the skating, cj???

Did you go with the skin tight pants or the kilt?

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (+9AX9)

648 632 ChemJeff,

We should make a Sherlock! spoof where the hero tries to find proof Barack Obama had a master's thesis.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (LRFds)

649 anyone want to hear something stupid?



I have to sit on a board so we can consider a guy watching girls
get some brazillian waxings online is a violation of porn policy. no
privates only women who put videos of brazilians up for everyone to see.


****

At the very least it is a misuse of company resources.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (piMMO)

650 ah well the thing is I am wondering...spend 500+ a year on the movies made by people who hate me and leave me "meh?" often as not or buy another gun....

guess which I am leaning towards these days?
Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (LRFds)

I am cancelling cable and no one is renting movies or giving a dime to movies or music in our house. Starve the bastards and kill the channel.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

651 Asking the important question: 'chemjeff did you wear spandex or the polo shirt?'

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (gh+mp)

652 yeah it is - for 30,000 there is a plasma upgrade.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:39 PM (Z9EHQ)


Your sophisticated Manhattan humor has gone clean over my head, sir.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (2rMmy)

653 To Lauren and elizabethe congrats on the newest conservative you brought into this world.

Iron Grandpa, admiration and respect for your resolve.

Do not despair over Tuesdays results. If Romeny / Ryan would have won, they would have been blamed for the shiite that is to close to the fan. Preezy OWNS this horrid, horrid, mess. Yes we all will suffer, but at least Preezy will get full credit.

Posted by: Deli LLama at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (lGu1O)

654 Ann Hathaway? No thank you.She's a screaming lib and will no doubt be unbearable

iirc - She likes it in the squeaker.

Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (+qydt)

655 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM (Z9EHQ)

After the last time (Nor'Easter in March of 2010) I bought a generator and installed a manual transfer switch. I can power 10 circuits (not all at once), so life was not nearly as bad as it could have been.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (GsoHv)

656 "yet more evidence I am not really a person I guess.

I killed cable at the start of the year and never looked back and I am about to kill the internet."

i'm right there with you on that one, dewd!

i haven't had cable since i moved out of my foster folks' almost 10 years ago! i was looking into getting it just to look at the news while working out (i just work out at home), and it's like $70/mo!!!! NO WAY.

couldn't do without the internet, tho! xP

Posted by: jimi ray at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (79EF9)

657 we had a good time, ice skating is not what I would consider "fun" but that is just me

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (4ZgqQ)

658 Cowboy at November 10, 2012 11:01 PM,

As I mentioned, conservatives would disagree with my tactics. Conservatives are very good at adhering to cultural norms. That's why liberals find them so easy to beat.

Big Birds and binders full of women, anyone?

Wakey, wakey...

Posted by: voterevenge at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (+5R2D)

659 Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (+qydt)

That was an internet rumor that was debunked....but still a nice thought.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (GsoHv)

660 CBD,

Smiling is the best revenge.

Still I hope perhaps or a milisecond the inept handling by Christie and Bloomy with the mere cameo by Choom and the Fema fuckups sway some from bling blue state faith...

it did not work in N'walins.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (LRFds)

661
anyone want to hear something stupid?

Read any of the above comments.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (+9AX9)

662 elizabethe you'll be happy to know that I managed not to fall down

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:41 PM


So, a successful bonking took place?

Posted by: otho at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (yBF/9)

663 of course I went with the skin tight leathers, while wearing a Viking helmet

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:45 PM (4ZgqQ)

664 At the very least it is a misuse of company resources.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (piMMO)

I am irritated because I am required to review them. It is not pornographic per se it is girls who got a waxing and thought it wold be fun to see how their friend did in their first waxing or did something like an informative video. It is apparently intended as funny not porn.

My position is who cares. He gets in early, stays late and does a good job.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:45 PM (Z9EHQ)

665 Asking the important question: 'chemjeff did you wear spandex or the polo shirt?'
Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (gh+mp)

Why not both?

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:45 PM (ou/rY)

666 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (Z9EHQ)

I have heard (I have no direct experience because it is illegal) that there are sites on the internet that allow downloading of first-run movies and other entertainment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (GsoHv)

667 661 harleycowboy,

yeah was the LSD good?

I mean I read stupid shit all the time I go to whitehouse.gov but you hear what your eyes see do you?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (LRFds)

668 I am cancelling cable and no one is renting movies or giving a dime to movies or music in our house. Starve the bastards and kill the channel.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (Z9EHQ)



We canceled cable a few months back. Thor doesn't miss it at all. I don't have a TV here.


I can't boycott music, but I am very, very careful about what I buy.


I have been choosy about where I spend since the Glenn Beck fiasco several years back.


The one I doubt I ever give up is Amazon.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (2rMmy)

669 CJ...

I have bad news.

The libs are boycotting Applebees.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (piMMO)

670 "I am cancelling cable and no one is renting movies or giving a dime to movies or music in our house. Starve the bastards and kill the channel."

Yeah, uh, I'm pretty sure they'll get by without your dime.

This is your plan guys?

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (Td9D+)

671 I switched out the butt pads on my two 870s and it made a world of difference.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 10, 2012 11:47 PM (eacF6)

672 So, the shotgun answers are helpful- and they seem to be coming up every night.

What is the real training a person should have? I'm talking about the situations, the people-reading, what to watch for, the precautions, things like that.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:47 PM (FcR7P)

673 of course I went with the skin tight leathers, while wearing a Viking helmet
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:45 PM (4ZgqQ)


Lederhosen? Cool. That's what I wear iceskating. Hi cj.

Posted by: robtr at November 10, 2012 11:47 PM (rTgOf)

674 666 CBD,

Gratz magic #...

I'm to the point I can name the shit I will break my oath to watch on one hand.

Justified, Breaking Bad, hell on Wheels, Blood and Chrome, and....

that's it.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:47 PM (LRFds)

675 Your sophisticated Manhattan humor has gone clean over my head, sir.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:42 PM (2rMmy)

sophisticated? I was making something of a gamer joke - convert your shotgun into a plasma gun. see how much I know about gaming.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:47 PM (Z9EHQ)

676 Why are they boycotting Applebees?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:47 PM (DoZD+)

677
I mean I read stupid shit all the time I go to whitehouse.gov but you hear what your eyes see do you?

I'm not from this planet.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (+9AX9)

678 CJ, I just hope you're not featured on tosh.0! Hope it was all good.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (cQmXn)

679 Chemjeff , glad to hear the skating went well.

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (zkSgu)

680 My position is who cares. He gets in early, stays late and does a good job.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:45 PM (Z9EHQ)


But does he leave your french fries alone?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (2rMmy)

681 "As I mentioned, conservatives would disagree with my tactics. Conservatives are very good at adhering to cultural norms. That's why liberals find them so easy to beat."

Clearly you're not tuned in to the latest conservative plan...they're gonna boycott movies! Hollywood will go bankrupt!

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (Td9D+)

682 "I am cancelling cable and no one is renting movies or giving a dime to movies or music in our house. Starve the bastards and kill the channel."

Yeah, uh, I'm pretty sure they'll get by without your dime.

This is your plan guys?
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (Td9D+)

I am sure they will. Hopefully it catches. 1 moron not so much, 50 million might leave a mark.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

683 niedermeyer that is not bad news that is good news, now maybe the joint will be classed up a bit

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (4ZgqQ)

684 This is your plan guys?

Yes. If you don't like it come up with your own ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (gh+mp)

685 Asking for prayers, please, if you're the praying kind. My brother in law, a staunch conservative and kind and generous man, is going in for a procedure on Wednesday to determine if he has lung cancer. My sister is a RN and she is expecting to hear the worst. He smoked for a long time, and has had numerous health issues over the past 5 years, which include having his spleen and half his stomach removed. My sister fears he is too frail to withstand any treatments he might have to go through. When I spoke to him on Wednesday, he was coughing so much he could barely get out a sentence.

The election was awful - I've lost my country. Now I am terribly frightened that I am going to lose a guy who is more like a brother to me than a brother-in-law. This is becoming the month from hell.

Prayers, please.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (7OHl8)

686 672 T-bird.

Use #6 shot...learn to cycle through a nice double tap.

Corners are your friend if in a defensive situation crouch low.

Do not hit more than twice. Fire only if you have total justification or are in a castle state in your home.

Ask LE what duties you have in a hostile situation in their juridstiction.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (LRFds)

687 But does he leave your french fries alone?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:48 PM (2rMmy)

heh. he does indeed.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (Z9EHQ)

688 "In 1988 Reagan won 49 states, including insanely blue states, because people believed he stood for something."

Damn! Reagan won in '80, '84, _and_ '88?

Is there nothing Ronaldus Maximus could not accomplish?


Posted by: torquewrench at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (ymG7s)

689 that's great chemjeff.

Do you really like applebees? Why?

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (ou/rY)

690 ice skating is not what I would consider "fun" but that is just me

Bring a hockey stick next time and go faster.

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (FcR7P)

691 I am irritated because I am required to review them. It is not
pornographic per se it is girls who got a waxing and thought it wold be
fun to see how their friend did in their first waxing or did something
like an informative video. It is apparently intended as funny not
porn.



My position is who cares. He gets in early, stays late and does a good job.


****

We had something similar happen at our company a few years ago. The guy wasn't looking at pron, but at women in really skimpy swimsuit poses. One of the women in the office walked up behind him and became offended and SHE considered it pron and complained.

That's what you have to watch out for.

He's putting the company at risk.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (piMMO)

692 685 Donna V,

I'd pray for a moonbat in that situation.

Lung cancer sucks.

Good luck, no snark.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:50 PM (LRFds)

693 Evenin' everybody. Well, everybody except the pestilence what can fuck off.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 10, 2012 11:50 PM (BAS5M)

694 Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (LRFds)

It won't work in NY or NJ.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:50 PM (GsoHv)

695 Prayers, please.
Posted by: Donna V. at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (7OHl

Donna, I'm so sorry. I'll say a prayer for your family.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:50 PM (ou/rY)

696 That was an internet rumor that was debunked...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:43 PM (GsoHv)

Why would you do that to me? Even if it was true? Why?
I'll never be able to sit through 'The Devil Wears Prada', again.

Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 11:50 PM (2j5KR)

697
Prayers, please.

Posted by: Donna V. at November 10, 2012 11:49 PM (7OHl


****
Done, and God Bless.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (piMMO)

698 Hot damn, it's a chatty Horde tonight.

Vandy beats Ole Miss and is going to a bowl game!

And yes, BCochran, you were the only one to not know about Miss Tammy's verified gingerness. Pfffft.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (Ai+tZ)

699
Prayers, please.

Prayer sent.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (+9AX9)

700 Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:29 PM (DoZD+)

Actually, during the depression movie going was one of the few places where people spent their money. it's pure escapism.

But now it's $9 a ticket here. Other places it's higher. I just can't afford that anymore.



Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:34 PM

Back then motion pictures with sound was brand new, and they had a multitude of classic novels to make into movies. The industry was also run by Jewish immigrants who still loved America, not the fuck America shit you get since the communists succeeded in taking over.

People now have a multitude of entertainment choices in their own homes rather than pay up the ass to watch sequels of movies made from old tv shows or sequels of remakes or movies made from video games.

Once utility rates necessarily skyrocket according to Obullshit's plan, theaters will have to pass those air conditioning costs on to someone. Then there's the loss of revenue from concessions once the nanny state outlaws big sodas and buttered popcorn.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (wwsoB)

701 hey look WH Doubter the point is to change what is in ones power to change, not to singlehandedly save the planet

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (4ZgqQ)

702 I like Applebee's. Nice environment, nice staff, good food.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (DoZD+)

703 You know some sort of Horde get-together at Applebee's sounds good .....

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (zkSgu)

704 I can't boycott music, but I am very, very careful about what I buy.
I have been choosy about where I spend since the Glenn Beck fiasco several years back.


The one I doubt I ever give up is Amazon.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM (2rMmy)


I LOVE amazon prime, sorry. But Overstock.com is dead to me. Not that it was that great, anyway.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (cQmXn)

705 681 WH Doubter,

Laugh.

I aim to seperate as far as possible from your culture and when the day comes God willing wave goodbye.

You won have a ball.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:52 PM (LRFds)

706 DonnaV, will do.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:52 PM (2rMmy)

707 W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:46 PM

It's a very good plan. In fact. a majority of people are doing it, politics aside. Paid media is not doing well. Cable is an easy one to cut, as it's an ongoing fee for a service which is being used less and less frequently. Most people keep their cable out of habit. Same goes for a land line.

Switch to cell. Use your computer for the entertainment you want, stream it to your TV and cut the monthly subscriptions. Between your cable bill and your phone bill you may have an extra $1K a year. That buys a lot of movie rentals from iTunes.

Posted by: voterevenge at November 10, 2012 11:52 PM (+5R2D)

708 Donna V .... On my prayer list NOW ...be strong and God Bless

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at November 10, 2012 11:53 PM (zkSgu)

709 I like Applebee's. Nice environment, nice staff, good food.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:51 PM (DoZD+)


Vets eat free there tomorrow!

Posted by: robtr at November 10, 2012 11:53 PM (rTgOf)

710 Hey Kids


===

Posted by: jc at November 10, 2012 11:53 PM (ufJKx)

711 Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 11:50 PM (2j5KR)

Oh, I meant that she loves it! not that she doesn't like it!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:53 PM (GsoHv)

712 Hi Tammy al-Thor!

What was the Glenn Beck fiasco? I'm so intrigued!

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:54 PM (ou/rY)

713 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 10, 2012 11:53 PM (GsoHv)

Thanks. It's ok, though. I am over it. Besides, I hear that the Verizon Wireless chick is a 3 input gal.

Posted by: garrett at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (2j5KR)

714 I also am going to try to go from "okay" releoader to "good reloader" this winter....

I have a .38 sp manstopper recipe I want to try.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (LRFds)

715 "hey look WH Doubter the point is to change what is in ones power to change, not to singlehandedly save the planet"

Actually the point is if you want to change how information is disseminated to the masses, you need people on your side that are out there fighting the fight. Especially in Hollywood.

"Boycotting" movies is like trying to chisel your way out of a steel prison cell with a thumbtack.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (Td9D+)

716 Howdy, DC!!!



I like to do my little part in boycotting. Actually, I tend to be more of a buy-cotter. I like supporting those who share my values. I think that's a better way to handle it anyway.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (2rMmy)

717
And yes, BCochran, you were the only one to not know about Miss Tammy's verified gingerness. Pfffft.




Is it unmanly to sob?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (GEICT)

718 Thanks, sven. Such training would be called...what, armed self-defense?

Posted by: t-bird at November 10, 2012 11:56 PM (FcR7P)

719
You have my prayers, Donna.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 10, 2012 11:56 PM (DoZD+)

720 Donna V., I will pray for your family tonight. Puts things in perspective.

Posted by: Kalneva at November 10, 2012 11:56 PM (cQmXn)

721 I have a few ideas. Some might be worth a shit.

Move out of blue states into swing states to help future elections. (Living in California, i think about it all the time).

Become an independent. Completely erase all "Republicans" from the voter rolls. Stop all donations to the GOP. This will help hide your conservatives as independents.
Progressives will have to find a new enemy of the state. When we all become "independents", the GOP can retire.

Prepare a 4 year plan as needed after each election.
Become "good" at left of center talk speak.
Learn to survive in a liberal landscape. (just like conservative actors have had to).
Sign up for federal entitlements. (get back what you can, and then some).
Be the ant not the grasshopper.

Declare yourself a minority by picking an American Indian tribe. Research, Photoshop, and create a family tree. If anyone challenges you, just ignore the question and show them your "papers".

This is enough fodder for the night.

Posted by: Gunsmoke at November 10, 2012 11:56 PM (0N+6v)

722 wait miss tammy is a ginger?

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:57 PM (mhTL5)

723 Hey jc!

So far today ... cords were tangled by some ... and when hubby pulled the shop vac to the other corner of the room ... he pulled the fan out of the window.

Only bounced once ... because it cracked in about 6 pieces...

more cords were tangled by some and my sander cord got pulled into the belt sander. fortunately pulled out of socket.

I hope you are keeping warm and cozy ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 11:57 PM (gh+mp)

724 wait miss tammy is a ginger?
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:57 PM (mhTL5)

lol. BC , apparently you were not the only one who didn't know.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:58 PM (ou/rY)

725 And I agree about Manziel ... if he stays healthy he is really going to be something special. He's my Heisman at the moment.
Posted by: Blacksheep at November 10, 2012 10:57 PM (bS6uW)
Theone loss is the thing, Alabama lost to a middle of the road big twelve team, Florida almost lost to a sunbelt team.
Both at home.You may think the SEC is what espn says it is, they are not the greatest thing since sliced bread.
If two teams go undefeated, they deserve to play for it!

Posted by: lou's a mean girl at November 10, 2012 11:58 PM (2Nzn8)

726 "Switch to cell. Use your computer for the entertainment you want, stream it to your TV and cut the monthly subscriptions. Between your cable bill and your phone bill you may have an extra $1K a year. That buys a lot of movie rentals from iTunes."

Sorry, cable companies are on record as saying "cord-cutters" pose no real threat to business. People like channel-surfing, especially in America. That's not gonna change.

By all means, cut the cable. But you're delusional if you think you're sticking it to the man.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:58 PM (Td9D+)

727 @655

A better way to go is to get an interlock for your breaker panel and back feed a 30amp breaker powering your whole panel with your generator.

That way you have access to all of your circuits.

I have a generator in a shed that feeds an inlet box on the back of the house, this is junctioned into the panel through an unused 30amp 240 dryer outlet.

I also have a 55 gallon fuel container that has a hand pump.

You could get a tri-fuel generator and run off of NG if you have that available to you.

Whatever you do do not fall for those standby generators like a Generac or a Kohler.

I have neighbors who have had nothing but trouble with them and they payed a boat load of money to have them installed.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 10, 2012 11:59 PM (0fxcV)

728 722 wait miss tammy is a ginger?
Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 10, 2012 11:57 PM (mhTL5) [\i]


Come friend, join me in ridicule. I believe they're about to start in with the tomatoes. Red tomatoes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:59 PM (GEICT)

729 What was the Glenn Beck fiasco? I'm so intrigued!
Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 10, 2012 11:54 PM (ou/rY)


Hey girl!


I don't even remember now what started it; I think he was still on Fox and got into it with Van Jones, who then called for a boycott of his sponsors. So I started boycotting those who caved and withdrew their ads. I distinctly remember CVS being one of them and I was a huge CVS shopper. Haven't been there since.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:59 PM (2rMmy)

730 444 Tammy al-Thor,

Tammy lethality is a reflection of ammo the 18 inch barrel has to do with handiness and weight.

You get a barrel too long in an enclosed environment you can't bring a weapon to bear, but the recoil is usually negated by the added weight.

I bought an Indiana State Police Rem 870 that is 18.5" and am pondering buying a Winchester 12 and having the gunsmith put it to Tench Gun specs.

The older shotguns have no disconnect and taht can be GREAT fun in a roomsweeping event.

http://youtu.be/arRHFFM-Kss

Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:59 PM (LRFds)

731
Doubter, I'm not boycotting movies. I simply refuse to pay nearly ten dollars a person to watch a movie that is unextraordinary or offensive to me. We save the theater for 5 or 6 times a year when there is something awesome, like The Avengers, coming out. We save the rest for cable or Netflix. Is this an issue for you?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 11, 2012 12:00 AM (DoZD+)

732 donna v that is awful, you'll be in my thoughts

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 11, 2012 12:00 AM (mhTL5)

733 chemjeff, seriously??? You didn't know??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:00 AM (2rMmy)

734 Okay folks. I'm tired.

Bed time for me.

See you tomorrow or sometime.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 11, 2012 12:00 AM (ou/rY)

735 726 WH Doubter,

Hey guess what?

I could give three fucks what cloud they live under.

Fuck it my money no mercy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:00 AM (LRFds)

736 "Boycotting" movies is like trying to chisel your way out of a steel prison cell with a thumbtack.

Yeah, but it's my thumbtack ...

What's your plan?

Posted by: Adriane at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (gh+mp)

737 you need people on your side that are out there fighting the fight. Especially in Hollywood.

They'll fight for our money or they won't.

Posted by: t-bird at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (FcR7P)

738 Is it unmanly to sob?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (GEICT)


Well, it's not gonna impress the 'ettes, but you might be able to pick up an emo chick at a OWS rally with your sensitivity. So, you got that going for you. Which is nice.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (Ai+tZ)

739 All I know is it's been a tough week and I'm grateful for this site...so...

God bless this site and all who sail upon her.

Thanks.

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (Qzw1H)

740 731
Doubter, I'm not boycotting movies. I simply refuse to pay nearly ten dollars a person to watch a movie that is unextraordinary or offensive to me. We save the theater for 5 or 6 times a year when there is something awesome, like The Avengers, coming out. We save the rest for cable or Netflix. Is this an issue for you?



There's only one God, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:02 AM (GEICT)

741 So I started boycotting those who caved and withdrew their ads. I distinctly remember CVS being one of them and I was a huge CVS shopper. Haven't been there since.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 11:59 PM (2rMmy)

ah, okay. You know, after the Chic-fil-a thing, I wonder if liberals are going to stop trying that tactic. It seems to backfire on them since conservatives tend to have more money.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 11, 2012 12:02 AM (ou/rY)

742 731 Katya,

I go may see Skyfall, probably will see Red dawn....

I am pondering ending it b/c I have decided that if madea goes to the range is made b/c a subculture wants it maybe I should just go ahead and be a subculture.

The donks are convinced we're defeated....I'm certain they'll get everything they ever wanted while I practice some skills they'll make necessary like canning.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:02 AM (LRFds)

743 Wheeler Dealers or Giada's melons?

Posted by: garrett at November 11, 2012 12:03 AM (2j5KR)

744 "Doubter, I'm not boycotting movies. I simply refuse to pay nearly ten dollars a person to watch a movie that is unextraordinary or offensive to me. We save the theater for 5 or 6 times a year when there is something awesome, like The Avengers, coming out. We save the rest for cable or Netflix. Is this an issue for you?"

Not at all, I just think if we want to effect change then we need our own cabal of talented filmmakers in the industry. Promoting conservative ideology. That is how you win hearts and minds these days. I'm convinced of it.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:03 AM (Td9D+)

745 737 T-bird,

That battle's been lost.

Daniel Day-lewis and Speilberg have decided Abe Lincoln was really a member of the one party he hated.

They are trying to steal our history too now.

No mercy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (LRFds)

746 Why are they boycotting Applebees?


****

One of the franchisees had the audacity to point out that, with Obamacare, he couldn't afford to hire any more people.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (piMMO)

747 738 Is it unmanly to sob?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM (GEICT)

Well, it's not gonna impress the 'ettes, but you might be able to pick up an emo chick at a OWS rally with your sensitivity. So, you got that going for you. Which is nice.
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (Ai+tZ)



Well, does she like it in the squeaker?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (GEICT)

748 Well, it's not gonna impress the 'ettes, but you might be able to pick up an emo chick at a OWS rally with your sensitivity. So, you got that going for you. Which is nice.
Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (Ai+tZ)

sobbing is not impressive, no. But when a normally stoic man sheds that one single tear... that does me in, every time.

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (ou/rY)

749 Reagan won in '80, '84, _and_ '88?

Bush Senior won in '88 because he was already acting President in all but name, and ran on the platform "America's had a great eight years, perhaps a dozy, prosperous and slightly corrupt Administration is what the nation needs". (I'm paraphrasing PJ O'Rourke.)

So, yeah, Reagan kinda did win '88.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (QTHTd)

750 Posted by: sven10077 at November 10, 2012 11:59 PM (LRFds)


sven, thanks, I really appreciate all the info.


When I was 13, I saw firsthand what a short barrel does to assholes. It made quite an impression on me. Perhaps I attributed too much to the shortness of the barrel and not enough to the shot, which I assume was double aught.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (2rMmy)

751 The only movie I'm planning to see in the theater as of now is The Hobbit. And I'm planning to take up canning again next year. Crap it all, didn't miss it a bit.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 11, 2012 12:05 AM (DoZD+)

752 The gender gap is not the problem. Race is the problem.

Romney won Whites of all ages and both sexes. He lost non-Whites of all ages and both sexes.

The Republican Party is the White Party, like it or not. The Democratic Party is the anti-White Party.

Getting races in the anti-White coalition to defect to the White Party does not work. Romney lost Asians worse than Hispanics, and there goes your non-NAM coalition.

As long as the White share of the population declines, the future is bleak. That is the reality.

One point of light in the darkness: Romney did win White youth, though narrowly. As far as I can remember, McCain didn't. (Anyone have numbers on that?) If so, maybe this coming generation can see that it's interest is not in being shoved aside.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 12:05 AM (ZBvKu)

753 744 WH Doubter,

tell you what you get on that.

I'll start trying to destroy the media.

Literally.

Chris Matthews drives drunk from time to time, personally witnessed it once.

We need a person to bribe the cops to do their job.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:05 AM (LRFds)

754 I hope you are keeping warm and cozy ...

Posted by: Adriane at November 10, 2012 11:57 PM (gh+mp)

===
doing OK. sorry to hear of the foibles. today I cracked a double pane window installing it. it was a replacement for a window I cracked moving it while still in the frame. the window has spoken and shall remain cracked.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:05 AM (ufJKx)

755 <i>122

anyone else been getting calls from business associates saying they
weren't going to do that thing they were going to do next year? I have
got two.</i>


My brother just shared this email he recieved:

ÒBill/Dave:

Since the election and talking to other people I cannot buy the plane
at the current price. I know it is a good deal but with the 48 coming
up next year and that cost being between 2-300k it is too much to spend
on that old of an airplane. I expect the economy to turn downward for at
least the next 12 months and feel that the price is too high.Ó

Posted by: goozer at November 11, 2012 12:05 AM (qJUdg)

756 Hey MissT

long time.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:06 AM (ufJKx)

757 elizabethe my torrid affair with Applebee's is more an accident than anything. when I first got into town the hotel I was staying at was next to the applebee's. since then I have gotten to know a few members of the staff.

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 11, 2012 12:06 AM (mhTL5)

758 Toured the Blue Ghost yesterday. It was some kind of awesome experience. Hard to believe it is run 100% on private money and donations.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 11, 2012 12:06 AM (BAS5M)

759 "I simply refuse to pay nearly ten dollars a person to watch a movie that is unextraordinary or offensive to me."

...uhm, shouldn't you refuse to pay any dollars to watch a movie offensive to you? o.O

i really don't understand the conservative griping about "anti-xtian" movies...it's certainly more than a fair charge to level at hollywood, but then it's small-town america going to the theatres in droves.

why do so many people pay to go see movies they know make a mockery of their beliefs? o.O

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 12:06 AM (79EF9)

760 "Boycotting" movies is like trying to chisel your way out of a steel prison cell with a thumbtack.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 10, 2012 11:55 PM

Nonetheless, they're not getting what spare cash I have just so they can use what they don't give to their coke dealers to politicians who are bent on destroying America

Besides, they're not turning out anything that I want to sit through the aggravation of today's theater experience. I can listen to rude assholes yacking on their cellphones without paying 15 bucks for the experience

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:06 AM (wwsoB)

761 jc!!!!!!!! MWAH!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:07 AM (2rMmy)

762 750 Tammy Al-Thor,

aim to please ma'am...

fact is if I can convince my combat engineer friend to visit he knows a lot more about shotguns than me, I am a rifle guy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:07 AM (LRFds)

763 Daniel Day-lewis and Speilberg have decided Abe Lincoln was really a member of the one party he hated.

They are trying to steal our history too now.

No mercy.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (LRFds)

I refuse to see that movie.

Abraham Lincoln is one of my heroes and pretty much the reason I went into history. I hate people who try to revisionist him.

fuck them all and get off of my history!

Posted by: elizabethe grew up in L.A. at November 11, 2012 12:07 AM (ou/rY)

764 #32 I bet some inner-city golf courses, inspired by Our Beloved Emperor, would make mint.

Good, but let's get outside the box here people. I'm thinking an Obama-themed Chuck-E-Cheese style restaurant--ObamaLand! It will features games like Whack-a-Racist and a putt-putt golf course where the final hole is sinking a putt into a hole in Bin Laden's skull.

Posted by: LexisTexas at November 11, 2012 12:08 AM (Cn396)

765 759 Jimi Ray,

don't know and no longer care my new GOP platform

1) marry whatever you want in whatever number

2) abort all babies

3) spend it all

Let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:08 AM (LRFds)

766 "I'll start trying to destroy the media."

That doesn't make sense though. How are you going to destroy something as monolithic as the media?

Even if you somehow convinced every single person even remotely on your side to starve the media of your money, there is still a vast majority of mouthbreathing liberals and apathetics that don't even care who the President is.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (Td9D+)

767 OK, I'm out

Yeah, but it's my thumbtack ...

Damn straight.

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (JMmQ9)

768 Chris Matthews drives drunk from time to time, personally witnessed it once.

We need a person to bribe the cops to do their job.




Nah, bribes are illegal. Knowing someone that either is a cop or has close ties to one, that's the ticker.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (GEICT)

769 Abortion is something that can work for us.

It will be illegal in this country to abort a baby due to gender.

Enforceable? Not really, but nice to split off the feminist vote.

It will be illegal to abort a baby due to sexual orientation.

Again... Enforceable? No. But it splits the LGTG vote.

That is how we beat them.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (ZIWkB)

770 See, here's the thing. I don't want to move around
comfortably. I want to be able to paint my walls with someone's guts if
they break into my house. I want to do it in one or two shots, max.









Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 10, 2012 10:53 PM (2rMmy)*************
OK, get a double barreled shot gun, take off the stock, put on a pistol grip, and cut the barrel down to about eight inches long.It will do all you want, for a very low price.Of course, it will almost certainly be a *highly* illegal sawed off shotgun.
So... anybody you shot will automatically be viewed by the police and the DA as a crime victim, and you will be arrested and charged and almost certainly convicted of murder.Your lawful self defense will automatically convert to murder one.So... you might want to invest in a couple of classes in criminal evidence gathering. And some body bags and industrial solvents. Or a pen full of hungry hogs.
You'll have to be able to dispose of this body, and clean up the crime scene well enough to beat any investigation.You also might want to look into a way of preventing anyone from hearing the shot gun blast. Silencing a shotgun is pretty difficult, and will greatly add to the length.So you might have to sound proof your whole home. Which is pricey and difficult....Or you could just stick with a legal 18 inch shotgun, or a pistol. Both of which are legal and avoid all of the above hassles.

Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (C+qQ0)

771 Okay, now I'm really going. Damn you guys always suck me back in.

good night. Thanks for being here.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:10 AM (ou/rY)

772 They are trying to steal our history too now. No mercy. Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:04 AM (LRFds)


So lincoln was actually pro slavery and pro secession? Interesting.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 12:11 AM (rTgOf)

773 look nobody thinks that a single person boycotting movies is going to change anything. but the real point is to do what is in ones power to change, as well as to spend that money on a more worthwhile cause.

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 11, 2012 12:11 AM (mhTL5)

774 766 WH Doubter,

You misunderstand....

I aim to remind the newsies they ain't invulnerable.

I am going to buy their pushers pimps, and get their tax data.

No mercy.

Next time Candy Crowley gets in my guy's face he's gonna be in a position to remind her whatever the hell it is that'd sleep with her matters.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:11 AM (LRFds)

775 "So lincoln was actually pro slavery and pro secession? Interesting."

wut

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:12 AM (Td9D+)

776 One of the franchisees had the audacity to point out that, with Obamacare, he couldn't afford to hire any more people.

"Fight for the middle class! Free meals starting at $50 a head!"

Posted by: t-bird at November 11, 2012 12:12 AM (FcR7P)

777 Not at all, I just think if we want to effect change
then we need our own cabal of talented filmmakers in the industry.
Promoting conservative ideology. That is how you win hearts and minds
these days. I'm convinced of it.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:03 AM

To reverse your previous analogy, that's like trying to break into a steel safe with a thumbtack. Conservatives don't get the funding, their films are intentionally trashed by the entertainment media, leftist actors won't take part, and you will go broke trying to break through.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:12 AM (wwsoB)

778 Is it unmanly to sob?


****

Why? Did Bruce Springsteen call you too?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:12 AM (piMMO)

779 736
"Boycotting" movies is like trying to chisel your way out of a steel prison cell with a thumbtack.



Yeah, but it's my thumbtack ...



What's your plan?

Posted by: Adriane at November 11, 2012 12:01 AM (gh+mp)

===
I will not give my money to slavers. Unfortunately that is just a start. I am looking for all the opportunities to be as non-cooperative as possible.
Am I the only one that noticed that all the counties that actually supply our food voted against neostalin?

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (ufJKx)

780 Hey elizabethe!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (GEICT)

781 768 BC1981,

Fire for fire.

We live in the united States of Chicago now.

The motto there is "fuck you pay me"

we need a pac.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (LRFds)

782 good night Elizabethe glad that you're here too

Posted by: chemjeff on the phone at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (mhTL5)

783 Hey elizabethe!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (GEICT)

yes?

Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (ou/rY)

784 779 JC,

No and trust me neoStalin knows too....

just wait until soccer mom gets a load of Barry's plans for the 'burbs.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:14 AM (LRFds)

785 "Yeah, Ace and the egghead cob-loggers are going to do what they do best -
wargame strategies that raise the hopes of the moron-hordes that next
election, we'll have a winning plan."

After this election and 2008, I hope the strategy next time isn't to blow more smoke.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 12:14 AM (ZBvKu)

786
To reverse your previous analogy, that's like trying to break into a
steel safe with a thumbtack. Conservatives don't get the funding, their
films are intentionally trashed by the entertainment media, leftist
actors won't take part, and you will go broke trying to break through.



****

Weren't there a couple of Christian movies that made bank in the last few years?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:14 AM (piMMO)

787 Do the Germans get to use Grampa's line?

Posted by: nip at November 11, 2012 12:15 AM (11Tdq)

788
Why? Did Bruce Springsteen call you too?



That's not sobbing. That's raging.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:15 AM (GEICT)

789 215 weeks to go.

Posted by: eman at November 11, 2012 12:16 AM (sRus3)

790 775 WH Dounter,

Mr Day-lewis and Mr Spielbaum both contend that lincoln magically is a democrat now...

well okay

he was a Whig who became a republican.

I cannot understand why a party that gets its orgasms off putting people on plantations 'til this day is somehow the "true inheritor" of the party set up so that all could be free to be paid as they worked.

It worked Ogabe called me racist just enough I'm going Galt.

You won Barry and you say I stopped your genius from working magic last term?

Show me genius.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (LRFds)

791 Here is my new proposed agenda, which I posted in another thread. It's better than chanting "we're winning!" till the election returns come in a reality dawns yet again.

Agenda:
* Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
* Oppose bailouts: nothing is too big to fail.
* Close the borders; fight amnesties to the end.
* Repeal the 1965 Immigration and Nationalization Act.
* Reform the schools wherever the right prevails.

How did the anti-White left win?
* Domination of the mass media, including Hollywood, so start there.
* Free government money instantly recycled as political bribes.
* Importing a new nation.
* Importing a new nation, illegally as well.
* Domination of education, so reform that at every opportunity.

Demographically, America moves a point or two further to the left with every election cycle. The solution is not to run Reagan every time; even Reagan couldn't win California now. If America becomes California, the left wins forever. Preventing the left from continuing to import a new nation is all-important.

But that can't be done in the face of a continuous leftist mass media hurricane and compulsory education in cultural Marxism. So support home schooling, and repeal the Hollywood tax cuts. That comes first.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (ZBvKu)

792 215 weeks to go.

Good, you're an optimist.

Posted by: t-bird at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (FcR7P)

793 Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (C+qQ0)


Oh, you're probably right. I really should just get the 18.5 and shut up. It'll get the job done.

But I live alone in a deep Red county, in a state with Castle Doctrine, in a house that's already been broken into once, and a meth dealer about 2 miles up the road.



The Sheriff would happily feed the remains to his hogs, which he buys off my uncle. I could probably get one of his deputies to saw it off for me.

The day a 48 year old female alone in her home gets so much as a slap on the wrist for shooting a robber in the Deep South is the day I know my country is truly dead.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (2rMmy)

794 783 Hey elizabethe!
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (GEICT)

yes?
Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:13 AM (ou/rY)



Gotcha!




Juvenile? Of course! But highly amusing.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (GEICT)

795 "To reverse your previous analogy, that's like trying to break into a steel safe with a thumbtack. Conservatives don't get the funding, their films are intentionally trashed by the entertainment media, leftist actors won't take part, and you will go broke trying to break through."

Nah, its doable. You can't just dive in with blatantly conservative platitudes. But if you understand subtlety and subtext, you can craft the message into the movie, so it is organic rather than heavy-handed. I haven't seen any real effort to do that, only Christopher Nolan with "Dark Knight Rises". Notice he doesn't go around claiming Republican allegiance, despite DKR having very conservative themes. He knows how to stay under the radar and hold his crown.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (Td9D+)

796 "293
hey, quick- I need a word, cannot think of it, that means someone has been proven a fraud, or that their theory has been disproven. Thanks
"

Obama

Posted by: PelosiNeedsMorePlasticSurgery at November 11, 2012 12:18 AM (uy+Yh)

797 That's not sobbing. That's raging.


****

It is when Chris Christie is on the other end of the line.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:18 AM (piMMO)

798 785 the lightworker,

no we'll do what we always do...teach urselves a lesson.

That works great.

America and a lot of GOP thought there is no difference between Obama and Romney I aim to let Barry show them the truth of their hypothesis.

Show me Barry.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:18 AM (LRFds)

799 What would really kick Hollywood in the nuts would be to eliminate their tax tricks, and make them pay those extra taxes they tell us they'd be more than happy to contribute if we'd only force them to

After all, George Lucas somehow became a very rich man for someone whose movies "never turned a profit"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:18 AM (wwsoB)

800 "So lincoln was actually pro slavery and pro secession? Interesting."

Anti-vampire though. So he'd never be able to win a modern election.

Posted by: WTF Do I Know at November 11, 2012 12:19 AM (HtUdo)

801 The day a 48 year old female alone in her home gets so much as a slap on the wrist for shooting a robber in the Deep South is the day I know my country is truly dead.


Me? I'd give ya a swift smack on a tight backside and a "Nice job there shugah. Got any of them sammiches left?"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:20 AM (GEICT)

802 That thought, make it illegal to abort babies because they are girls, was tried last session. It floundered under stiff Democrat opposition (including by the President). You musta missed it on account of the GOP waging such a virulent war on women.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 12:20 AM (WcgMM)

803 791 the lightworker,

Yeah that may work...

I like my plan better.

Burn the fucker down and start over with baby bells.

I am not letting Nancy Pelosi micromanage my life to my toilet paper selections if I can help it.

Show me barry.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:21 AM (LRFds)

804 On the topic of education we really need to start funding private schools in minority areas. We need to get a foot in the door. Again this must be done from K-12 and then Post Secondary.

Start with the Catholic schools. So ok they have to provide coverage for contraception...deal with it and hit back twice as hard in the curriculum area, push CONSERVATIVE IDEAS DESTROY THE LEFT'S NARRATIVE!!!!! Recapture the elite from the left.

Posted by: southdakotaboy at November 11, 2012 12:21 AM (ZIWkB)

805 The gender gap is not the problem. Race is the problem.

Actually, the major problems are on our side: turnout and letting the opposition define us.

Unfortunately the average Republican voter cut his or her own throat this election by showing the party leadership that the our voters can't be relied on to turn out even if the stakes are astronomical.

The leadership is now faced with two choices: Should it depend in the future on the average Republican voter, or should it try to appeal to a broader coalition by doing more to attract independents and Democrats?

Everyone already knows what the answer is. If Republican voters had turned out in overwhelming numbers and trounced Obama, it would given Romney a mandate; would've forced him to take into account the desires of everyone who elected him or he wouldn't have been reelected; and would've broken the back of the mainstream media.

Instead, a historic opportunity was squandered because the average Republican voter didn't trust Romney. This is the exact same reason the Dems and independents gave for voting against him. People voted with their emotions, not their heads.

So ultimately, there's no difference among the parties when it comes to reasons for voting. Dems voted for Obama because they didn't trust Romney, and Repubs stayed home for the same reason.

All this talk about despairing of ever attracting voters again should be aimed at Republican voters, too. They could've gotten rid of Obama and smashed the mainstream media in one blow, but they chose to stay skip it.

I don't believe we're doomed. But if we are, Republican voters are just as culpable as the Democrats.

Posted by: Llarry at November 11, 2012 12:21 AM (HaqaF)

806 Weren't there a couple of Christian movies that made bank in the last few years?


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:14 AM (piMMO)

Bank in terms of budget yes. You have to pretty much be a secret agent to get a conservative film made. One studio exec can make or break you, if they feel that the movie sucks, they will kill the marketing budget which usually doubles the production cost, or you'll head straight to video. Many people don't realize the millions that go into marketing a film, it doesn't guarantee success, but you will for sure fail without it. I can assure you if you go in and say, "Hey, were going to make a conservative movie!" Your film will go the way of Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 11, 2012 12:21 AM (NzBQO)

807 Anti-vampire though. So he'd never be able to win a modern election.
Posted by: WTF Do I Know at November 11, 2012 12:19 AM (HtUdo)


I LOL'd!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:22 AM (2rMmy)

808 W.H. Doubter

you are actually wrong about the cable companies being unconcerned over cable cutters. It is a huge problem partially since cable cutters frequently start receiving their video entertainment over the internets and gorging themselves on bandwidth.

Additionally, cutting the cable is a first step to getting a la carte services which will give everyone the option of getting fox and not msnbc.

If you are certain cable companies do not care if you cut the cable, go ahead, cancel your service and see how desperately they try to get you back.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:22 AM (Z9EHQ)

809 804 southdakotaboy,

yeah we could do that...or since they voted 97% for Obama again in all likelihood if you factor in the fraud 110% I say "no" let them enjoy his reign.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:23 AM (LRFds)

810 Gotcha!

Juvenile? Of course! But highly amusing.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (GEICT)

aw... that makes me feel so special.

I just can't quit you guys.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:23 AM (ou/rY)

811 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:20 AM (GEICT)


You'd ask me for sammies while I still had the shotgun in hand? Brave man, very brave man, indeed.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:23 AM (2rMmy)

812 773 look nobody thinks that a single person boycotting movies is going to change anything. but the real point is to do what is in ones power to change, as well as to spend that money on a more worthwhile cause.
-
Good thinking. I've gotten tired of paying for enemy propaganda too.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 12:24 AM (ZBvKu)

813 I just can't quit you guys.
Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:23 AM (ou/rY)


Me either, I am so sleepy i can hardly type, but I can't sign off!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:24 AM (2rMmy)

814 The day a 48 year old female alone in her home gets so much as a slap
on the wrist for shooting a robber in the Deep South is the day I know
my country is truly dead.


*****

Here in Florida, you can legally shoot them as they are breaking into your home. You are not required to wait until they have entered the home to defend yourself.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:24 AM (piMMO)

815 805 LLarry,

oh believe me...

my let it burn is because it is our fault....every whine and bitch I hear on Ogabecare.....

"sympathy did you vote?'

cause blind sympathy I am plum out

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:25 AM (LRFds)

816 Okay. This Dave Attell show is really friggin weird.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:25 AM (piMMO)

817
"Additionally, cutting the cable is a first step to getting a la carte services which will give everyone the option of getting fox and not msnbc"

The a la carte thing has been discussed to death in certain pop culture circles of the internet. Consensus is that there is no sustainable business model for that kind of plan. If there were, I suspect cable companies would be all over it in anticipation of the internet TV revolution.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:25 AM (Td9D+)

818 even more fun, sharpton and the race mongers have been complaining about how racist the rockefeller drug laws are because they have longer penalties for crack. Laws got repealed and now cop killings and gang / drug shootings are up hugely year-over-year in ny and in other urban shangrilas.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (Z9EHQ)

819
You'd ask me for sammies while I still had the shotgun in hand? Brave man, very brave man, indeed.



A southern gentleman expressed his admiration for your shooting abilities and then announced his love of your cookng skills. Getting shot is way down on the list of worries. Higher up is dying of dehydration.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (GEICT)

820 808 YankeeFifth,

I was not going to argue the point since it was not really my point but "yeah" I am still getting stalked by my cable company from two bases ago and direct tv is a crazier bitch than my ex.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (LRFds)

821 Speaking of continued reacharounds for the Fat Man, this is a little curious;

White House says Christie's people easier to deal with than Cuomo's people

http://tinyurl.com/bhfnvvd

This isn't normally something they would ever say publicly, it looks like somebody in the WH doesn't want a Cuomo run in 2016

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (wwsoB)

822 817 WH Doubter,

translation: we know nobody would buy MSLSD

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:27 AM (LRFds)

823 "After all, George Lucas somehow became a very rich man for someone whose movies "never turned a profit"

Wealth tax. Copyright value of the Star Wars franchise assessed by the IRS, and charged an annual rate.

It'd be great for Soros and the Heinz-Kerrys, too.

Oh, I know that the Rs would never introduce such a thing, but it sure would be fun to watch the Ds figure out a way to spin against it.

"If you are certain cable companies do not care if you cut the cable, go ahead, cancel your service and see how desperately they try to get you back."

Yes. I cut the cable several years ago and I get AT LEAST one "come back to us pleeeeeeze" mailer every week.

Posted by: WarrenMuhfugginHarding at November 11, 2012 12:27 AM (pkkxZ)

824 Here in Florida, you can legally shoot them as they are breaking into your home. You are not required to wait until they have entered the home to defend yourself.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:24 AM (piMMO)


In all fairness, his point is that I keep whining about not being able to have something illegal. I'd never try in CA, but when you live in the country, no one cares much about that shit, at least not in the South, as I'm sure you know!

I have several friends in MA, who told me I'd need some sort of firearms ID to buy ammo. I am amazed at what they have to go through in blue states, even just to hunt.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:27 AM (2rMmy)

825 Southdakotaboy, where are you from? Within a reasonable distance. You're not my cousin, are you?

Posted by: Kalneva at November 11, 2012 12:27 AM (cQmXn)

826 813 I just can't quit you guys.
Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:23 AM (ou/rY)


Me either, I am so sleepy i can hardly type, but I can't sign off!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:24 AM (2rMmy)



I took my ambien a half hour ago......

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:28 AM (GEICT)

827 Greetings to all!

I haven't even been lurking tonight. Instead, I did something constructive with my hands and the tools my father gave me. I have a newish bike that needed some adjustments. It arrived partially assembled with the handlebars slightly out of whack. I had just put it together as it was and rode it that way for a bit. Tonight I finally adjusted the handlebars and installed a light, fenders for the wet weather, and a pannier rack to carry my junk when I ride to church or work.

It was almost a shame to put all that junk on my elegant bike -- like putting clothes on Kate Upton.

I'll have to revisit this thread later this weekend to see what awesome ideas the morons have proposed for surviving the coming Opocalypse.

Love you all! Sleep tight!

Posted by: Mindy needs a torque wrench at November 11, 2012 12:28 AM (6jLT3)

828 821 KBdabear,

as i said upthread if I wanted to see Obama get a blowjob I just need to watch Joisey Buddah....

hell maybe Chris will be the donk nominee in '16

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:28 AM (LRFds)

829 The a la carte thing has been discussed to death in certain pop culture circles of the internet. Consensus is that there is no sustainable business model for that kind of plan. If there were, I suspect cable companies would be all over it in anticipation of the internet TV revolution.
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:25 AM (Td9D+)

bull. it is not a sustainable plan as is. it is certainly sustainable if everyone is canceling cable. if everyone is leaving and the pie is shrinking some channels, such as msnbc, are going to have to choke down huge cuts in their share.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:28 AM (Z9EHQ)

830 This isn't normally something they would ever say publicly, it looks like somebody in the WH doesn't want a Cuomo run in 2016
Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (wwsoB)


Nah , they are just doing what they do. Blame Cuomo for the ongoing disaster in New York and try to take credit for the fat mans limited success in New Jersey.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 12:29 AM (rTgOf)

831 Don't forget, Mel Gibson made The Passion of the Christ, to accolades and huge bank. And the thing was in Aramaic, to boot. He did Braveheart and The Patriot, too. But afterThe Passion,I suspected it was only a matter of time till his career was ended, and it was. Yeah we had The Dark Knight in recent years.We also had The Lord of the Rings trilogy. And 300. Smash hits, all.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 12:29 AM (WcgMM)

832 824 Tammy Al-Thor,

Ma'am they don't have a sense of humor about too short sawed offs....that's what led to Ruby Ridge...

18.5" has great spread...now if you pay a 200 dollar tax you can get a duster which is a double barrel 12ga pistol....

I carried one for a bit.

Not really "more better deadly" but folks see God if you pull it.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:30 AM (LRFds)

833 764
#32 I bet some inner-city golf courses, inspired by Our Beloved Emperor, would make mint.

Good,
but let's get outside the box here people. I'm thinking an Obama-themed
Chuck-E-Cheese style restaurant--ObamaLand! It will features games like
Whack-a-Racist and a putt-putt golf course where the final hole is
sinking a putt into a hole in Bin Laden's skull.


Posted by: LexisTexas at November 11, 2012 12:08 AM (Cn396)

I would bet that the final hole wouldn't look like Bin Laden's skull but Reggie Love's squeakhole.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 11, 2012 12:30 AM (Ohhk6)

834 Here is the reality: Obama is not a socialist. Taxes have gone the last four years. If you can't accept that, you need to get out of your conservative echo chamber. The one that convinced you that Romney would win by a landslide.

Posted by: Tracy at November 11, 2012 12:30 AM (dZUv0)

835 If you are certain cable companies do not care if
you cut the cable, go ahead, cancel your service and see how
desperately they try to get you back.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:22 AM (Z9EHQ)


====
I did it and they didn't blink and have never contacted me about anything. But you know what? So what. I am not paying assholes to be assholes. And, I have a lot more hours a week to actually live instead of veg in front of the damn box. Miss football, baseball and boxing, but even that is fading away, too.
Cut the cable. It is for your own good even if the assholes never notice. They may stay rich, but not with nickel.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (ufJKx)

836 Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (GEICT)


Nice try, but the correct answer is start kissing my neck.

The correct answer with me is always kiss me on my neck.

Sammies will follow...eventually.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (2rMmy)

837 808 YankeeFifth,

I was not going to argue the point since it was not really my point but "yeah" I am still getting stalked by my cable company from two bases ago and direct tv is a crazier bitch than my ex.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (LRFds)

yep. calls and calls. even some really good deals but I am not getting back in with them again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (Z9EHQ)

838 Tammy al-thor, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I feel like an idiot.

Actually, you guys helped me. I decided since I was up anyway, I would write some on my NaNoWriMo novel.

ha! take that word count!

Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (ou/rY)

839 "I did it and they didn't blink and have never contacted me about anything. "

I'll bet it isn't Comcast.

Posted by: WarrenMuhfugginHarding at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (pkkxZ)

840 cause blind sympathy I am plum out

The final Florida vote was 50 percent Obama and 49.1 percent Romney.

Look at all the swing state tallies and tell me we couldn't have won this if Republicans had turned out. Tragic and really, really shortsighted.

http://minx.cc/?post=334843


Posted by: Llarry at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (HaqaF)

841 "Here is the reality: Obama is not a socialist. Taxes have gone the last four years. If you can't accept that, you need to get out of your conservative echo chamber. The one that convinced you that Romney would win by a landslide."

Hi Welcome

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (Td9D+)

842 The film industry is killing itself anyways with high ticket prices, they have been able to use 3D as a stop loss but it won't last forever. Here some stats, cost of a movie ticket 2001: $5.66 2011: $7.93 tickets sold: 2001: 1.4873 billion 2011: 1.283 billion.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 11, 2012 12:32 AM (NzBQO)

843 Hey a late nite troll! Hope you got your kneepads and shinebox close.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:32 AM (GEICT)

844 Cuomo hates Barry. Barry denied him a speaking slot at the convention.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 12:32 AM (WcgMM)

845 834
Here is the reality: Obama is not a socialist.



=====



*rimshot* Tip your waitress folks. I'll be here all week. Did you hear the one about the stalinist and the penguin that walked into a bar?

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:32 AM (ufJKx)

846 834 Tracy,

nice story bro explain to me the millions of jobs Barry Choom created...

what is it with you fucking retards and "taxes are down"?

No shithead revenue is down....duh.

This fucking guy said openly to Chaz Gibson "I don't care about more revenue I care about fair."

Yeah asshole well Barack SHOW THEM.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:32 AM (LRFds)

847 Here is the reality: Obama is not a socialist. Taxes have gone the last four years.

No taxes in the past four years? Wow. That's pretty amazing. How did they fund the federal government, then?

Posted by: Llarry at November 11, 2012 12:33 AM (HaqaF)

848 Cut the cable. It is for your own good even if the assholes never notice. They may stay rich, but not with nickel.
Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (ufJKx)

you mentinon another good point - I am much happier since I closed the valve on the sewer that was pouring into my house.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:33 AM (Z9EHQ)

849 @834

Ok.

Thanks.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 11, 2012 12:33 AM (0fxcV)

850 845 JC,

exactly....fucking retards think that ticky tack shit will sell by the time he's done killing coal and shale BEFORE the inaugural...

fuck you you won own it get to work show me you can tax your way to wealth democrats...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:33 AM (LRFds)

851
Hey, Tracy @ 834-

Isnt it past your bedtime?

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 11, 2012 12:33 AM (/NgNT)

852 "Here is the reality: Obama is not a socialist."

Here is the reality. You won. STFU and get busy bringing us that Earthly Paradise Obama promised us.

Posted by: WarrenMuhfugginHarding at November 11, 2012 12:34 AM (pkkxZ)

853 Obama isn't a socialist? So, when he said, "I really believe in redistribution", and when he explained what "Share the Wealth" meant to Joe the Plumber, what was he talking about?

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 12:34 AM (WcgMM)

854 836
Nice try, but the correct answer is start kissing my neck.

The correct answer with me is always kiss me on my neck.

Sammies will follow...eventually.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (2rMmy)



Hope you single Ron's and Ettes paid attention. Thank me later. With video and photographic proof of ms tammy's gingerness.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:35 AM (GEICT)

855 Elizabethe yes this place is hard to quit

Posted by: chemjeff on crappy phone at November 11, 2012 12:35 AM (cnS/d)

856 No feed trolls! Remember? Let them starve.

Posted by: kalneva at November 11, 2012 12:35 AM (cQmXn)

857 MissTammy, maybe you need a

http://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1

and a watchtower so you can survey your property and deal with any threats before they get to your door.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:35 AM (Z9EHQ)

858
852-

Yeah! Where is my free Obama Phone?!

Posted by: DaveinNC at November 11, 2012 12:35 AM (/NgNT)

859 Mindy, good for you! I bet it looks great!


I started putting together a storage thingee for over the commode, but the ONT sidetracked me.

I am so proud, I really haven't had too much trouble, barring a few things I did backwards.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:36 AM (2rMmy)

860 I'll bet it isn't Comcast.
Posted by: WarrenMuhfugginHarding at November 11, 2012 12:31 AM (pkkxZ)


Ha, comcast came to my house when I switched to frontier. Then the assholes sent somebody out and unhooked my frontier cable from my house. They said they owned the junction box on my house. So while the guy was standing there i cut the protective end he put on the cable and crimped a new one on and screwed it back in and told him to get off my property.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 12:37 AM (rTgOf)

861 I started putting together a storage thingee for over the commode, but the ONT sidetracked me.

I am so proud, I really haven't had too much trouble, barring a few things I did backwards.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:36 AM (2rMmy)

you need a whole cabinet of tebow ?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:37 AM (Z9EHQ)

862 'night, sweeties. Love you long time. Hope there is a long time.

Posted by: kalneva at November 11, 2012 12:37 AM (cQmXn)

863 Actually Tracy brings up a good point. As much as we harp on Barry Sotero's far-left antics, he's not nearly as liberal as he promises his ball-washers. Just take a stroll through the Daily Kos comments and you'll find that the moonbats are restless.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:38 AM (Td9D+)

864 Battery is low. Sleep aid meds kicking in. Got church tomorrow. Nighty night.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 11, 2012 12:38 AM (DoZD+)

865 I want my Obama phone????

Posted by: Jimi at November 11, 2012 12:38 AM (uvNSk)

866 nighty Kalneva

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:38 AM (Z9EHQ)

867 860 Robtr,

See had I not screwed up and built in a development I could have cleaned a gun on my porch.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:38 AM (LRFds)

868 Don't forget, Mel Gibson made The Passion of the Christ, to accolades
and huge bank. And the thing was in Aramaic, to boot. He did Braveheart
and The Patriot, too. But afterThe Passion,I suspected it was only a
matter of time till his career was ended, and it was. Yeah we had The
Dark Knight in recent years.We also had The Lord of the Rings trilogy.
And 300. Smash hits, all.


****

Any damage done to Gibson's career was done by Gibson himself. That being said, he made Apocalypto after The Passion and is presently working on Maccabee.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:39 AM (piMMO)

869 818
even more fun, sharpton and the race mongers have been complaining about
how racist the rockefeller drug laws are because they have longer
penalties for crack. Laws got repealed and now cop killings and gang /
drug shootings are up hugely year-over-year in ny and in other urban
shangrilas.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:26 AM (Z9EHQ)

Didn't all the race hustlers want crack dealers to get bigger sentences back in the 90's because of all the damage that crack was doing to the commoonintee?

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 11, 2012 12:39 AM (Ohhk6)

870 MissTammy, maybe you need a

http://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1

and a watchtower so you can survey your property and deal with any threats before they get to your door.
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:35 AM (Z9EHQ)


Oh I wish. I'd love one of those. I'd probably kill myself and half the county, but I'd love one!

I really don't need a watchtower. I am not that paranoid. I just want to kill anyone who breaks in the house is all.

Is that so unreasonable?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:39 AM (2rMmy)

871 803 791 the lightworker,

Yeah that may work...

I like my plan better.

Burn the fucker down and start over with baby bells.
-
I still feel like Ottway in The Grey.

Yeah, the wolves are winning big. I get that.

We should still keep plodding. Or at least that's my best thought.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 12:39 AM (ZBvKu)

872 863 WH Doubter,

erm "no" he's plenty left they want a commie he wants to pretend he is Mitterand.

Barack is gonna have EVERY opportunity to give Kos paradise.

He'll either please kos, please the retards who crossedover by moderation or please me by vanishing.

I don't care which.

let it burn

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (LRFds)

873 If we're still talking shotguns: Mossberg 500A ("A" denotes 12 g.), 18.5 inch barrel, currently configured with a Knoxx SpecOps Recoil-reducing stock (pistol grip), 5 in the mag and 1 in the pipe. TacStar light system. Federal PowerShock nine pellet 00.

I fear no man. (note to ATF: Someone stole it. It fell out of my truck. My boat capsized. I gave it to my ex.)

Don't forget your sidearm , and remember that your pistol is really only for fighting your way to your rifle.

Y'all wanna have that discussion, I might be conscious for a couple more minutes.






Posted by: eastvalleyphx at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (GRvW4)

874
I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Ohio Dan


Danjandrum

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (SX6wc)

875 @863

Trust me......at the end of the day...The Left is going to get everything they wanted from Obama and probably a lot more

Posted by: Jimi at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (uvNSk)

876 Didn't all the race hustlers want crack dealers to get bigger sentences back in the 90's because of all the damage that crack was doing to the commoonintee?
Posted by: MrCaniac at November 11, 2012 12:39 AM (Ohhk6)

yep. rockefeller drug laws were the ones they passed in response to the crack problem. first it was racist not to have them then it was racist to have them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (Z9EHQ)

877 okay, good night for real.

So, parting thought. You know how people sometimes sleepwalk and then do things like drive the car or cook or whatever? Do you think morons and ettes who sleep walk start coming to the computer and posting on the HQ ONT when they sleep?

b/c that would explain some things.

Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (ou/rY)

878 Now now Tracy is right Obama is not a socialist, he just wants to redistribute wealth! Why can't we wingnuts understand this?

Posted by: chemjeff on crappy phone at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (cnS/d)

879 Yeah, Tammy, it feels good to see something take shape through your own efforts.

I bet you'll put your storage thingy together in no time and have an attractively organized bathroom when you're done!

Posted by: Mindy needs a torque wrench at November 11, 2012 12:41 AM (6jLT3)

880 Holy crap!

Any Indy morons in the house?

Huge explosions destroy Indy neighborhood.

http://t.co/jpYaRXc0

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:41 AM (piMMO)

881 869 Mr C,

awesome I know let's free all drug dealers since it is just racism.

Let it burn.

Ask for it Barry you'll find me oddly agreeable.

Mirror Universe john Boehner.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:41 AM (LRFds)

882 I really don't need a watchtower. I am not that paranoid. I just want to kill anyone who breaks in the house is all.

Is that so unreasonable?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:39 AM (2rMmy)

oh, well you need some claymores then.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:41 AM (Z9EHQ)

883 880 NDH,

Yup I'm in Indy metro....

must be B**tt K**ber*in appreciation day

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:42 AM (LRFds)

884 Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:37 AM (Z9EHQ)


You have no idea the damage I could do to a whole cabinet full of Tebow. I have been away form Thor for 3 weeks. If I had a cabinet full of Tebow, I'd make the Horde blush with my antics. Maet and CDR M would ban me for sure.

Of course you know he has took up with some impossibly gorgeous brunette?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:42 AM (2rMmy)

885
So, parting thought. You know how people sometimes sleepwalk and then do things like drive the car or cook or whatever? Do you think morons and ettes who sleep walk start coming to the computer and posting on the HQ ONT when they sleep?

b/c that would explain some things.




lmao

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:42 AM (GEICT)

886 Story at the Indy Star


http://www.indystar.com/

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:43 AM (piMMO)

887 as i said upthread if I wanted to see Obama get a blowjob I just need to watch Joisey Buddah....

hell maybe Chris will be the donk nominee in '16


Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:28 AM

Fat Man burned his bridges with the Donks when he went to war against the public unions. They NEVER forgive or forget.

This might also be a trick to keep Corey Booker from moving up in the world. If Fat Ass looks "unbeatable" then Booker stays in Newark rather than getting a much higher profile job. I'm betting that Jarrett and Obullshit will never forgive Booker for calling bullshit on the Bain Capital narrative

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:43 AM (wwsoB)

888 878 Chemjeff,

Quite....

so the key is stockpile food and entertainment and work your own property or assets.

No income unneeded and none donated.

Starve the beast.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:44 AM (LRFds)

889 yankee, I am not allowed to mess with knives. I had to beg to have scissors for my crafting!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:44 AM (2rMmy)

890 It's all fun until the tiger bites the chihuahua's head off.



Howdy, all! Tonight's fish club meeting was all about haplochromine cichlids in Lake Victoria.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 11, 2012 12:44 AM (kaalw)

891 The biggest problem with another Obama Admin....is if we get hit with another attack....they won't tell us!

Posted by: Jimi at November 11, 2012 12:44 AM (uvNSk)

892 Of course you know he has took up with some impossibly gorgeous brunette?


Yeah, he was in town with her last week. Guess he was introducing the fam.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (GEICT)

893 Our mistake this election (aside from preventing fraud) was thinking that voters didn't like Bush at the end because of entitlements, drone strikes, the deficit, the debt etc. It's not that at all.

"Bush dumb"

"Bush bad"

"Obama nice"

That's what resonates with the electorate.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (6JMZR)

894 I found the youth numbers on CNN:

Vote by Age and Race
White 18-29 (11%)[same in both polls]

Obama: 54% – MCain: 44%
Obama: 44% – Romney: 51%

There is hope.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (ZBvKu)

895 Lefties do harp on Obama from the left. They also harp on the NYT because of its stubborn "conservatism". Yes, they do. The fact remains, Obama is pretty damnleftist as a US President. He delivered their long time Holy Grail - nationalized health care.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (WcgMM)

896 Posted by: elizabethe at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (ou/rY)


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (2rMmy)

897
must be B**tt K**ber*in appreciation day


****

He was the first thing that crossed my mind.

Do they have gas utilities in that area?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (piMMO)

898 891 Jimi,

Oh trust me by year 7 or 8 of the reign of Obama we are gonna get quite the light show I'll wager.

SPF 2500 events have built in PR

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (LRFds)

899 Huge explosions destroy Indy neighborhood.

Looks like the aftermath of the gas explosion in San Bruno, CA a while back. Hope everyone was out of the house tonight.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 11, 2012 12:46 AM (xKC/c)

900 Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (2rMmy)

Yeah, a 18.5 inch barrel shotty is really more efficient. You won't have to call in as many chits with your Sheriff neighbor to help with body disposal... ;-)

Police agencies that used some seriously cut down shotguns found that they had to put some sort of "grip stop" at the end of these shot guns. Why? Because in the heat of the moment, with the adrenaline and the racking of the shotgun slide, they found they that sometimes they would slide the non-firing hand right up to the edge of the muzzle. And sometimes beyond.

Hence the grip stop.

Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 12:46 AM (C+qQ0)

901 897 NDH,

Yes.

Stop 11 was either near greenwood or due west and slightly north.

Stop 11 is where my son's hobby shop is.

I hope everyone is okay there are a lot of families with kids in that block.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (LRFds)

902 Yeah, he was in town with her last week. Guess he was introducing the fam.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:45 AM (GEICT)

I knew then we'd lose the election. My entire world, crumbling around me....


I still think he's gay and doesn't know it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (2rMmy)

903 863
Actually Tracy brings up a good point. As much as we harp on Barry
Sotero's far-left antics, he's not nearly as liberal as he promises his
ball-washers. Just take a stroll through the Daily Kos comments and
you'll find that the moonbats are restless.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:38 AM

We thank you and Tracy for your "concern"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (wwsoB)

904 Huge explosions destroy Indy neighborhood.



===


red or blue? I may, or may not, care. Consequences.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (ufJKx)

905 You have no idea the damage I could do to a whole cabinet full of Tebow. I have been away form Thor for 3 weeks. If I had a cabinet full of Tebow, I'd make the Horde blush with my antics. Maet and CDR M would ban me for sure.

Of course you know he has took up with some impossibly gorgeous brunette?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:42 AM (2rMmy)

when is Thor coming home again? Y'all can go park in the scion.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (Z9EHQ)

906 Here is the reality: Obama is not a socialist. Taxes have gone the last four years. If you can't accept that, you need to get out of your conservative echo chamber. The one that convinced you that Romney would win by a landslide.
Posted by: Tracy at November 11, 2012 12:30 AM (dZUv0


Did you post that from your Obamaphone?

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (rTgOf)

907 893 TMI,

Likely.

If the answer the class gave to "who needs to be president" was "the failure who gives me birth control big bird and no binders" then grab a machinegun and get a new class.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:48 AM (LRFds)

908 "He delivered their long time Holy Grail - nationalized health care."

And the second he did, the Reds were burning up because it still wasn't single-payer. That's how crazy these people are. Sometimes, when I'm feeling really optimistic, I wonder if Obama is just a useful idiot who got shammed into bearing a torch for the real lunatic fringe in this country.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:48 AM (Td9D+)

909 red or blue? I may, or may not, care. Consequences.
Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:47 AM (ufJKx)


probably a drone strike

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (rTgOf)

910 chemjeff, any vampire reports ?

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (/7Xis)

911 "You'd ask me for sammies while I still had the shotgun in hand? Brave man, very brave man, indeed."

xD xD xD♥

"Here in Florida, you can legally shoot them as they are breaking into your home. You are not required to wait until they have entered the home to defend yourself."

hah! weak sauce!

here in tx, you can legally shoot them in the back as they are running away from your neighbour's property! castle doctrine? we have a "whole god-damn countryside" doctrine!!! xD

"Nice try, but the correct answer is start kissing my neck.

The correct answer with me is always kiss me on my neck."

awwwwww :3 super affecsh southern boys ♥.♥

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (79EF9)

912 red or blue? I may, or may not, care. Consequences.


****


Duuuuude.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (piMMO)

913 Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 12:46 AM (C+qQ0)


Huh, that's interesting. I can just about see myself doing something like that, no lie. Provided I didn't dislocate my shoulder with the first shot!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (2rMmy)

914 903 KBDaBear,

Concern is a commodity with a growing volume and less value.

I plan to be mighty frugal with mine in the coming years.

Like NYC right now?

Plum out.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (LRFds)

915 Just got back from The Sword/Eagle Claw/Gypsyhawk show. All three bands kicked ass with a metallic vengeance. It was nice to have an evening of enjoying the music I love without thinking about Tuesday's debacle. Also, got all my albums signed by the bands and hung out a bit with them. All of them were cool guys. \m/

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 11, 2012 12:50 AM (s/PhC)

916 I still think he's gay and doesn't know it.



But I'm sure you're just the person to convince him to sign a long term deal with the home team.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:50 AM (GEICT)

917 here in tx, you can legally shoot them in the back as they are running away from your neighbour's property! castle doctrine? we have a "whole god-damn countryside" doctrine!!! xD


****


Yeaaah.

I'm not so sure I'd want to defend those actions in court.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:50 AM (piMMO)

918 912 NDH,

Yeah?

Remember "hurricanes are God telling you you suck GOP" from our primary??

Yeah welcome to the new America I could give three fucks my "innate blind patriotism" died this week.

Let it burn.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:51 AM (LRFds)

919 Y'all can go park in the scion.


YOU need to STFU! That damn thing ain't big enough to have proper fun in.



Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (79EF9)


How do you make those wee hearts??

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:52 AM (2rMmy)

920 Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:17 AM (2rMmy)

Also, a dead bolt on your bedroom, along with a gun, and phone. The dead bolt gives you a little extra time.

(You'll need a strong door to go along with the dead bolt.)

Also, if you just use a cell phone, make sure your charger is in the bedroom too. You don't want to be roaming the house looking for a wayward cell phone at zero dark thirty with possible hostiles in your home.

Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 12:52 AM (C+qQ0)

921 I'm not so sure I'd want to defend those actions in court.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:50 AM (piMMO)


Oh, I don't think the guy even got arrested. I believe he shot some guys stealing his neighbors TV.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:53 AM (2rMmy)

922 And the second he did, the Reds were burning up
because it still wasn't single-payer. That's how crazy these people
are. Sometimes, when I'm feeling really optimistic, I wonder if Obama
is just a useful idiot who got shammed into bearing a torch for the real
lunatic fringe in this country.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 12:48 AM

From what I gather from his lifetime of radical upbringing and associations, and his own statements during his lifetime, he's into the Chavez style socialism with his eyes wide open.

Wildly optimistic people hoped that Hitler was just kidding about what he wrote in Mein Kampf too.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 12:53 AM (wwsoB)

923 Laughing at the idiocuntry of America Wiliam Frank Buckley Junior, is not.

I will repeat, is not.

Posted by: twoslaps at November 11, 2012 12:54 AM (N36ZX)

924 Keep your car keys by your bed hit the panic button

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 12:54 AM (/7Xis)

925 "bull. it is not a sustainable plan as is. it is certainly sustainable if everyone is canceling cable. if everyone is leaving and the pie is shrinking some channels, such as msnbc, are going to have to choke down huge cuts in their share."

yeah, i agree. the op even mentched the internet tv revolution...cable companies aren't gonna last too much longer with the current "sustainable" business plan.

i'd like to see the numbers in the analysis that suggests a-là-carte is unsustainable. paying at current price-per-channel rates? sure.

but if your customers are cutting out 60-80% of the channels they never watch anyway, they'll be happy to pay whatever the "sustainable" market rates would be for the channels they do want, i'd reckon...still coming out ahead.

for the persistence of some channels (lookin at you, current), the model wouldn't be "sustainable"...but should we really continue supporting private business models that effectively subsidise products nobody wants?

sure, some channels would die off, some channels would become more expensive...some channels would make less revenue. but that's just the free market in action. somehow, i'm sceptical of the conclusion that a-là-carte...allowing customers to purchase the services they actually use...just wldn't work!

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 12:54 AM (79EF9)

926 I was at "Angry Bear" fighting with the Commies awhile back, and they also tried to pull the "Obama isn't Left, and actually a Conservative," BullShit with me, but they argued from a position of Stimulus.

i.e. He didn't spend enough, and he didn't give us the full Single Payer System...therefore...he is a "Right-Winger"

I have had more luck communicating with the Dead, than I have attempting to break thru the mania of the Left.

Paint Chip Eaters.every.single.one.of.them.

Posted by: Jimi at November 11, 2012 12:54 AM (uvNSk)

927 How do you make those wee hearts??


For you it might be difficult. A guy just needs a canvas and appropriate supplies. I'd suggest the big gulp about 30 minutes beforehand.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 12:54 AM (GEICT)

928 yep. rockefeller drug laws were the ones they passed in response to
the crack problem. first it was racist not to have them then it was
racist to have them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:40 AM (Z9EHQ)

Strange how the media never seems to point out the hypocrisy of the left over these issues. They are always for it before they were against it.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 11, 2012 12:55 AM (Ohhk6)

929 RE: ORCA

Are there any pictures of this?

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 11, 2012 12:55 AM (zrpqj)

930 922 KBDaBear,

Yup and I got to play mini Churchill even in Louisiana to SoCons who hated McCain....

You need to vote.

"I'm tired of MAVERICK and Obama is a new kind of democrat."

Yeah a marxist red diaper baby no really he was in the New party he's a red.

"yeah but the GOP needs taught a lesson after Bush."

Okay?

Enjoy the ride I will.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:56 AM (LRFds)

931 Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 12:52 AM (C+qQ0)

I am not making myself a prisoner in my own home. I truly am not that worried, just want to be prepared! I wouldn't mind getting a few dogs, though.

My charger is by the bed but I can't count on reception out here at all. I am lucky to get 2 bars. And the cops take 30 minutes to get out here, minimum. Usually closer to 45, because we're in the less populated part of the county and they stay over where the population is greater.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:56 AM (2rMmy)

932 Taking the shitcunts from superextra smelly shit, to Titletown U.S.A., Vince Lombardi don't like him no Chicago bullshit, although that is often the route.

And he never has.

Posted by: twoslaps at November 11, 2012 12:56 AM (N36ZX)

933 926 Jimi,

Tell 'em awesome....you tell Barky run as hard as he can I will not stop him.

Let. It. Burn.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 12:57 AM (LRFds)

934


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:56 AM (2rMmy)


maybe you need a guard duck.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:58 AM (ufJKx)

935 Y'all can go park in the scion.

YOU need to STFU! That damn thing ain't big enough to have proper fun in.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November

You never know, I heard some comedianette say she was horny enough to do it on the hood of a car in a parking garage if you would leave the car on so her back did not get cold.

I am sure this in no way relates to you, only sharing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:58 AM (Z9EHQ)

936 Keep your car keys by your bed hit the panic button


Hah, like i have those kinds of keys! Y'all are so fancy. I guess it's true about Republicans being rich and all.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:58 AM (2rMmy)

937 "Why don't we do it in the Road?"

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at November 11, 2012 12:59 AM (uvNSk)

938 My charger is by the bed but I can't count on reception out here at all. I am lucky to get 2 bars. And the cops take 30 minutes to get out here, minimum. Usually closer to 45, because we're in the less populated part of the county and they stay over where the population is greater.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:56 AM (2rMmy)



http://www.the-backup.com/

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 12:59 AM (Z9EHQ)

939 maybe you need a guard duck.
Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 12:58 AM (ufJKx)


I tell you what, I'd consider some guard geese, especially come Spring. They are some mean mofos when they're guarding their females.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:00 AM (2rMmy)

940 936 Tammy al-Thor,

well I had the problem of whether or not I was comfortable having my driver sleep near my bed...

he's kind of burly and snores but only he knows where the car keys are....

so I decided to fire him and hired a nice Asian driver who snores but it is like a melody...she's a lot less expensive as well.

There a noise?

Bich Nu hit the alarm.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:00 AM (LRFds)

941
I tell you what, I'd consider some guard geese, especially come Spring. They are some mean mofos when they're guarding their females.




Never knew geese were Morons. Huh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:01 AM (GEICT)

942 BC, the correct answer is00 buckshot. Like shooting 9 X .38's at the same time. I was gone for a minute- did you know that you could clean AR bolts with a Ka-Bar? Happy Birthday Marines!!!

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:01 AM (XDC0v)

943 939 Tammy,

My son got his ass handed to him in Havre De grace MD at age 3 by a psycho goose.

Crazy bastards.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:01 AM (LRFds)

944 Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:56 AM (2rMmy)

Oh God no, I'm not trying to make you a prisoner in your own home. The dead bolt is just a suggestion. You only use it if you think it is necessary. Spend an hour installing it and then forget about it. You only turn the knob if the SHTF.



Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 01:01 AM (C+qQ0)

945 And yes, BC, I do my level best to make him play for the home team!! Yes siree Bob.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:01 AM (2rMmy)

946 "sure, some channels would die off, some channels would become more expensive...some channels would make less revenue. but that's just the free market in action. somehow, i'm sceptical of the conclusion that a-là-carte...allowing customers to purchase the services they actually use...just wldn't work!"

One of the arguments against a la carte is that while it sounds good on paper, it would not actually lower cable bills. For example, if 40 million homes were suddenly given the choice to decide for themselves if they wanted ESPN and all said no thanks, than the other 40 million would see their bills go up to pick up the slack. That would be true for any channel under an a la carte system. There are also still technological issues as the 20 channels you want may not be the same as what your neighbor wants and figuring out how to deliver two extremely different packages of channels out of the same headend is no small task.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 01:02 AM (Td9D+)

947 942 Dave,

yeah my preference, but if overpenetration of your walls is an issue you may want #6 shot....

I have neighbors too near for my preferred buck n ball magnum load.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:02 AM (LRFds)

948 Hah, like i have those kinds of keys! Y'all are so fancy. I guess it's true about Republicans being rich and all.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 12:58 AM (2rMmy)


Just get a 410 pump. They are light, don't kick and will kill you dead at close and medium range. You don't need to vaporize somebody and you are better with a gun if you are comfortable shooting it.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 01:03 AM (rTgOf)

949 Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:00 AM (LRFds)

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:03 AM (2rMmy)

950 Up to the day when the thing might be; abortion.

Posted by: twoslaps at November 11, 2012 01:03 AM (N36ZX)

951 945 And yes, BC, I do my level best to make him play for the home team!! Yes siree Bob.




There is no try, do or do not.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:03 AM (GEICT)

952 948 Robtr,

If she goes that route she can get a Taurus Circuit judge carbine....

mix .45 Long Colt and .410 shells....

short range mayhem

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:04 AM (LRFds)

953 A la carte cable programming will not lower prices, and may even drive them up. All those shopping channels like QVC and NBCShopping actually pay the cable/satellite companies to be carried. Those religious stations do too. Thus those stations underwrite the cost of other more expensive networks.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 11, 2012 01:04 AM (Ohhk6)

954 I have friend that is a state trapper and has to kill problem lions sometimes. When they are treed he shoots them in the face # 4 buck. He says it stones em good.

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 01:05 AM (/7Xis)

955 One of the arguments against a la carte is that while it sounds good on paper, it would not actually lower cable bills. For example, if 40 million homes were suddenly given the choice to decide for themselves if they wanted ESPN and all said no thanks, than the other 40 million would see their bills go up to pick up the slack. That would be true for any channel under an a la carte system. There are also still technological issues as the 20 channels you want may not be the same as what your neighbor wants and figuring out how to deliver two extremely different packages of channels out of the same headend is no small task.
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 01:02 AM (Td9D+)



yawn. who cares if it is difficult or if it lowers cable bills? it man not lower cable bills but msnbc, cnn, and all of the other commie outlets are going to get less money.

so they can hit a missile with missile and sell movies on demand but it is impossible to send signals through fiber?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:05 AM (Z9EHQ)

956 My fat kitteh has decided to jump up on the desk and push all it's contents onto the floor.

She thinks that kind of shit is funny

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:06 AM (wwsoB)

957 http://www.the-backup.com/Watch-Our-Videos-s/1818.htm

be sure you watch the first two.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (Z9EHQ)

958 Thhat circuit judge is a neat little gun. Simple to operate.

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (/7Xis)

959 EFG, it actually isn't a bad idea. In fact, I am going to suggest it to my 72 year old mama, who also lives alone, up the road.


BC, I bet all y'all Morons would definitely get mean if someone threatened your ladies.


But robtr, I do, I DO want to vaporize someone!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (2rMmy)

960 TV will become obsolete.

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (uvNSk)

961 robtr at November 11, 2012 01:03 AM (rTgOf)

Massad Ayoob made the exact same argument for the 20 gauge vs. the 12 gauge. He said he could get more rounds and more buckshot down range faster and more accurately with a 20 gauge vs. a 12 gauge.


Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (C+qQ0)

962 956 My fat kitteh has decided to jump up on the desk and push all it's contents onto the floor.

She thinks that kind of shit is funny

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:06 AM (wwsoB)



What she finds funny is that you think you're gonna do something about it. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (GEICT)

963
"yawn. who cares if it is difficult or if it lowers cable bills? it man not lower cable bills but msnbc, cnn, and all of the other commie outlets are going to get less money."

Well yeah, sure, if people are actually willing to pay MORE for cable then it can certainly be done.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (Td9D+)

964 "I still think he's gay and doesn't know it."

i think he knows it.

i've met his elder brother, and, to my eternal distaste, his impossibly close-minded (and patently ridiculous) evangelist father.

spent two weeks with the intellectual elder brother, peter, who seems to harbour a pretty profound grudge against tim for being everything his father wanted, perhaps robbing the kid of positive paternal attention.

seems like there's some stuff about timmy that,in peter's words, "if only dad knew", he mightn't have been Daddy's Favourite Child.

i just can't imagine having to be bob fucking tebow's son and liking guys :/

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:08 AM (79EF9)

965 mix .45 Long Colt and .410 shells....short range mayhem
Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:04 AM (LRFds)


Never heard of one of those. Sounds sweet though

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 01:08 AM (rTgOf)

966 SR22 Ruger is sweet for the boot, or for women that need a small handy

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at November 11, 2012 01:09 AM (uvNSk)

967 buck n ball magnum load


I must absolutely have some of this. I don't even know what it is, but I want some. It sounds evil!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:09 AM (2rMmy)

968 Well yeah, sure, if people are actually willing to pay MORE for cable then it can certainly be done.
Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 01:07 AM (Td9D+)

if you had a chance to pay a little extra to starve the liberal channels and choke off parts of the sewer would you?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:09 AM (Z9EHQ)

969 912
red or blue? I may, or may not, care. Consequences.


****


Duuuuude.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 12:49 AM (piMMO)

===
I know. I have been surprising myself a lot this week. I normally send in to help disaster victims. Sandy? Not so far. Not sure I will. I feel very conflicted about it all at this point.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:11 AM (ufJKx)

970 @968

Yes...I boycotted Hollywood years ago...which was tough because I love movies, but it can be done with cable too!

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at November 11, 2012 01:11 AM (uvNSk)

971 "if you had a chance to pay a little extra to starve the liberal channels and choke off parts of the sewer would you?"

I would do anything to put a dent in their armor, and I'm positive MSNBC would be one of the first to go.

Posted by: W.H. Doubter at November 11, 2012 01:12 AM (Td9D+)

972
I must absolutely have some of this. I don't even know what it is, but I want some. It sounds evil!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:09 AM (2rMmy)

go to hornady. be sure you pick up a few dragonsbreath rounds as well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:12 AM (Z9EHQ)

973 80 "Constitutionalists, the politically incorrect, and the like really need and deserve a homeland. A nation to call our own. We need a divorce from the statist bastards who run the show and will continue to do so. That's a foregone conclusion. You can't beat demographics."

We had that. It was called the USA. There were other places that were socialist shitholes elsewhere.

But socialists suck and they are jealous, so they destroyed the finest, most just, most generous nation the world had seen.

If another such nation ever arises, it must - by necessity - execute any citizen that ever suggests it is 'fair' to steal from the public coffers to give to someone else.

Else it too will be eventually destroyed.
Posted by: blindside at November 10, 2012 09:36 PM (2rf52)


******************

^^ This ^^

Posted by: Boomer Redneque says, at November 11, 2012 01:13 AM (eQnzo)

974 Guns for home defense?


Pretty easy, whatever you can handle. A .22 will scare the shit out of a robber just as much as a 9mm or 45. The robber isn't looking to see what caliber your weapon is, he/she just hears lead being slung at them.

I know that a .22 will not do as much damage as a .45 or 9mm, and that being shot with a .22 just pisses people off, but I have never had anyone volunteer for me to piss off.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 11, 2012 01:13 AM (Ohhk6)

975
if you had a chance to pay a little extra to starve the liberal channels and choke off parts of the sewer would you?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:09 AM (Z9EHQ)

Yes, for sure. The fact that I can't get the PAC 12 network in California but the Big Ten network is on my basic cable package?

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 11, 2012 01:14 AM (NzBQO)

976 Another piece of news that somehow didn't get released until after the election;

Foodstamps Surge By Most In One Year To New All Time Record, In Delayed Release

Via ZH

http://tinyurl.com/atcllxg

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:14 AM (wwsoB)

977 961 EFG,

It's like my choice of carry gun if I get my CCW this month....

do I pack insert choice x of the 9mm compact family or do I go with a Chiappa Rhino in .357 magnum?

I'm leaning rhino...

"but sven you'll only have six shots" well that's true but I am not in a firefight I am in a survival situation and I value a wheel gun's reliable nature.

Add in the massive amount of .38sp ammo on hand and...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:14 AM (LRFds)

978 974 MrCaniac,

While your suggestion is very valid and I am not arguing I believe she said that there were recreational Big Psuedo Pharma fans in her neighborhood....

a .22 against a methhead is not a good bet.

Just racking a 12ga. is an attention grabber...

I dunno what is comfy is a big part of it though.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:16 AM (LRFds)

979 I ought not to have watched those vids, I will be hearing people creep around all night long now!!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:16 AM (2rMmy)

980 "How do you make those wee hearts??"

alt+3!

hold down alt, and then hit the 3 on the number pad...won't work with the 3 above the "e".

cute♥ xP

"Oh, I don't think the guy even got arrested. I believe he shot some guys stealing his neighbors TV."

yep! the responding officers didn't even arrest him. grand jury declined to indict him, so he never even had to go to court!

like i said, "whole god-damn countryside" doctrine :3 goo~oo tx!♥

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:17 AM (79EF9)

981 I ought not to have watched those vids, I will be hearing people creep around all night long now!!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:16 AM (2rMmy)

really? I am not sure if I would be more concerned about the prowler or the guy in the tighty-whiteys with the cartoon characters.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:18 AM (Z9EHQ)

982 967 Tammy al-Thor,

Buck n Ball is a .410 shell surrounded by a sendoary shot load magnum is just a fancy word for "extra powder charge"....

the Dragon's breath while fun is a flamethrower from your gun....

good for warthogs not so good for your hallway.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:18 AM (LRFds)

983 A .22 is extremely deadly. The higher caliber rounds may have more stopping power, but that all depends on who is shooting the gun.

The .22 round will stop in the body, and most of the time the round will richocet or spilt apart causing extreme damage, and because of the easy of handle more well placed shots can be sent down range.

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at November 11, 2012 01:18 AM (uvNSk)

984 neighbor bought a marlin .45/70 a while ago. he had it out a few times for fun and is afraid to shoot it it hurts so much.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:19 AM (Z9EHQ)

985 Did I get back in time for 1K?

I have nothing to add to the conversation, excepting my fine ass.

(bawney fwank sock in 3...2...1...)

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 01:19 AM (Ai+tZ)

986 The Path Ahead To Save America
http://politicalhat.com/?p=529

I have written previously on understanding conservatives and progressives as necessary to forge a path towards victory for liberty and America

Now we must ask, “How do we get there?”

To answer that we need to understand how the left grabbed power. They did not start out demanding things like gay marriage and free partial birth abortion for pre-teens. They played the “Long Game.”

Progressivism has been festering in America since the 19th Century, and broke through to the mainstream with the election 100 years ago with the election of the racist warmonger Woodrow Wilson. Today we face an ever greater problem. Not only does America have to contend with a Transformative Socialist, but one with the advantage of over a hundred years of successful effort to smash the America that was, and build the utopian delusions of the few.

The progressive left have been following the “boiling frog syndrome” to implement their vision step-by-step. Under the guise of “helping the poor” the left institutionalizes charity in the state as welfare. The state then provides more and more until it becomes accepted as an entitlement. Then the complaint is raised that more is never enough, and soon it becomes accepted wisdom that if the government doesn’t give the people something, that they are denying it to them, be it contraceptives or “Obama Phones.”

This gradualism can be seen when it comes to the mores and norms concerning sexuality and marriage. Divorce became not only freely available, but socially acceptable. From that the core of the family was rent asunder. With contraceptives and “free love,” the important relation of marriage, sex, and child-rearing was destroyed, thus tearing away one of the underpinnings of any society. In lieu of family, people are forced to rely on the state, and even cherish their new parent Leviathan.

Perhaps the progressive left’s approach towards America can be summarized thus:

“Here lies a toppled god–
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a tall one.”
—Tleilaxu Epigram

Today, it becomes more true: “The state is mother; the state is father.” And it is through our children that the progressive left gains power. Ideology is taught from Pre-School to Post-Graduate studies in colleges. Far too often parents think that it is the government’s job to educate their children. It is not. A child is the ultimate responsibility of his or her mother and father. Schools are just an adjunct to that. Combined with their domination of the media and of the entertainment industry, the Progressive left is holding true to the saying, “The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world.”

What can Conservative do? First and foremost, they must protect American Exceptionalism in our mores, culture, and customs. Even if it but slows down the advance of Leviathan, the time earned will be worth it. Conservatives need to understand themselves, and unify against the onslaught of progressivism.

By understanding the progressive left’s use of Social Corporatism to relegate American society to but a tangential thing by associating it with their boogeyman, the “Straight White X-tian Male,” conservatives must eschew playing “me too” by aping lame appeals to whatever interest group the left have defined, be it racial, gender-based, or sexual. If conservatives try to copy the progressive left, they will be seen as nothing more then untrustworthy wannabes. What must be done is to smash this paradigm, and appeal to people who are not white, straight, Christian, and/or male on the basis, as the case may be, of their being small businessmen or women, of their being parents, or, above all else, of their being Americans with whom we share a culture that transcends race or gender.

Conservatives must understand that the people will not always be amenable to their ideas if all they do is appeal to them weakly with commercials shortly before an election. Conservatives, by their nature, want to conserve American values and traditions, and doing nothing to change it seems consistent with that. But it’s not. The progressive left have been proactively working to change people’s mind, to integrate communities into their sphere, and push slowly in the long game drop after drop… until the dam bursts.

Above all conservatives must stop the agents of tyranny and mutation from warping the young like some Grimly Feendish. Conservatives must go into entertainment and the media. They can do good by simply not doing evil, as overt conservatism or political advocacy will relegate them to simply being conservative news or conservative entertainers. They must mainstream themselves and boil a frog of their own.

Education must be the top priority. As Timothy C. Daughtry mentioned over at the American Thinker: “But even when conservatives won elections, the people who lost those elections taught our children the next day.” Conservatives must become teachers, and downplay propaganda while emphasizing the truth. They must phase out insane ideas like “whole reading” or turning mathematics into but an exercise on using a calculator.

For example, in education, conservatives must push for quantum changes after quantum changes, and do it in language that is neutral, or even seems to agree with the lofty goals of the progressive left. Perhaps, in regards to education, they can demand more money for the classroom, and offer to pay for it by eliminating non-teaching bureaucrats and giving the power and choice to the teachers, while concomitantly incrementally striving for curriculum reform.

Another example in regards to immigration. The Progressive left have been taking Bertolt Brecht’s advice to heart:

“[T]he people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?”

Conservatives should support pro-legal immigration groups and reforming immigration laws, and then doing everything they can to help out the immigrants from their first application to come here, to when their children are elderly. Just being fair would help break the progressive lefts monopoly on the vast majority of immigrants. Once this presence is established, then conservatives can push them and integrate them into the cause of America and its cherished freedom.

The progressive left has not been appealing to the electorate like conservatives do, but trying to shape it. Conservatives must do the same. The future of America is at stake and no option should be off the table.

The path towards retaking America is simply this: Boil the progressives’ frog before the progressives boil ours.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 11, 2012 01:19 AM (sZTYJ)

987 good for warthogs not so good for your hallway.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:18 AM (LRFds)

heh, my neighbors said nearly the same thing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:20 AM (Z9EHQ)

988 Haha. One of my boys also got his ass handed to him by a goose when he was three. He's almost a man now, but still swears, to this day, "That goose had teeth!"

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 01:20 AM (WcgMM)

989 983 zombie John lenin,

yeah it can be with the right ammo choice.

I'd use a .22 Semi-Wad Cutter +p load

You hiy a blood pool resevoir in the client and it is goodnight Irene....

lots of hydrostatic shock potential

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:22 AM (LRFds)

990 For some reason I don't feel bad about Dresden anymore;

On Germany's Desire To See America "On Its Knees", And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama"

http://tinyurl.com/bd4qxmy

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:22 AM (wwsoB)

991 Ooh, gun talk.

Cougar is getting a piece soon, gonna "handle some weapons" at the next show. She wants stopping power, so probably a .40 or .45, but 9mm is in the running.

I'm hoping she likes the glock, cause I have a safe full of mags for it, otherwise the Springfield. Those fuckers make a slick piece of iron.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (Ai+tZ)

992 I normally send in to help disaster victims. Sandy? Not so far. Not sure
I will. I feel very conflicted about it all at this point.


yeah, me too.

I gave money for the Tennessee flooding and for the Alabama tornadoes, but this one just seems different. hmm, wonder why.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (d/5qf)

993 On Germany's Desire To See America "On Its Knees", And Its "Infantile Crush On Obama"

http://tinyurl.com/bd4qxmy
Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:22 AM (wwsoB)

I think you misunderstand, it is in their dna, the are drawn to psychos

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (Z9EHQ)

994 sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:14 AM (LRFds)

Nothing wrong with a six shot .38 or a .357.

Good wheel guns are damn fine guns.

One good thing about 9mm compacts. They conceal real well, and are also very *comfortable* to conceal too.




Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (C+qQ0)

995 984 yankeeFifth,

the guide gun or the cowboy model?

The GuideGun is short and ia 45-70 has a lot of power.

I am pindering the 95 XBL with the built in picatinny railing.

45-70 is the 12.7*99's grandpa....

an amazing round for medium to short long range client relations.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:24 AM (LRFds)

996 Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:17 AM (79EF9)

Oh,thank you! I promise I'll try not to drive everyone crazy with hearts all over!

I myself, would be fine with whole damn countryside doctrine. I"m glad the guy didn't get arrested. I just wish that man in Long Island (I htink?) awhile back had had the same laws. Pack of drunks on his driveway threatening to rape his wife and daughter and kill him, and he goes to prison for shooting one. Unreal.


Pete oughtta have a talk with all concerned rather than let it eat at him.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:24 AM (2rMmy)

997 DC, I recently got a SW .40, wife really likes it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:24 AM (GEICT)

998 [984
neighbor bought a marlin .45/70 a while ago. he had it out a few times for fun and is afraid to shoot it it hurts so much.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:19 AM (Z9EHQ)


Neighbor needs to grow a pair. .45-70 is a shove, much like a 12ga. I find it quite pleasant vs .308 from a lightweight rifle. It's nowhere near a tough round to shoot.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:24 AM (lJJMb)

999 990 KBdaBear,

there's a reason the world loves choom and it ain't the dreamy eyes or Worf's toned arms....

we're gonna get nuked in the next 30 years team.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:25 AM (LRFds)

1000 1000!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:25 AM (d/5qf)

1001 woot

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:25 AM (d/5qf)

1002 Well look at chemjeff. He did get lucky tonight!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:26 AM (GEICT)

1003 the guide gun or the cowboy model?


The GuideGun is short and ia 45-70 has a lot of power.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:24 AM (LRFds)

guide

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:26 AM (Z9EHQ)

1004 "Constitutionalists, the politically incorrect, and the like really need and deserve a homeland. A nation to call our own. We need a divorce from the statist bastards who run the show and will continue to do so. That's a foregone conclusion. You can't beat demographics."

We had that. It was called the USA. There were other places that were socialist shitholes elsewhere.

But socialists suck and they are jealous, so they destroyed the finest, most just, most generous nation the world had seen.

If another such nation ever arises, it must - by necessity - execute any citizen that ever suggests it is 'fair' to steal from the public coffers to give to someone else.

Else it too will be eventually destroyed.

Posted by: blindside at November 10, 2012 09:36 PM (2rf52)


During Reagan's "A Time For Choosing" he said this:

"Not too long ago, two friends of mine were talking to a Cuban refugee, a businessman who had escaped from Castro, and in the midst of his story one of my friends turned to the other and said, "We don't know how lucky we are." And the Cuban stopped and said, "How lucky you are? I had someplace to escape to." And in that sentence he told us the entire story. If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth."

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 11, 2012 01:27 AM (sZTYJ)

1005 "For example, if 40 million homes were suddenly given the choice to decide for themselves if they wanted ESPN and all said no thanks, than the other 40 million would see their bills go up to pick up the slack. That would be true for any channel under an a la carte system."

...what? how do you figure? it's not the zero-sum game you seem to think it is, and anyway you don't appear to understand the distinction between service-delivery companies and the programmers who bundle the programming options.

cable companies in fact, want to move to an a-là-carte system. it's the programming bundlers whose business model would be affected negatively.

for the 40 million folks who don't want espn, the cable companies save on the redistribution costs of delivering that channel to those subscribers. espn, iirc, is the most expensive channel to cable service providers, so they would be quite happy if 40 million customers who don't watch espn anyway chose not to take the service...thereby saving the cable company a lot of money.

maybe espn would be mad at losing some sales. but maybe there would be a lot more people buying just espn and no other cvable channels who aren't spending the $70/mo for the only channel they would watch right now. either way, it's not very free-market conservative to support a business model that allows espn to force cable companies to purchase rights for every subscirber who can access the channel, even if they never use it. that's bureaucratic salesmanship.

the programming bundlers are the main resistance to a-là-carte programming. they like to use popular channels to sneak in their current televisions and other tripe that nobody really watches...the oprah channel and that sort of thing. i'm sensitive to the difficulties in starting a new channel...but i don't think forcing people to pay for channels nobody is watching is the proper long-term solution to stimulating tv innovation...

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:27 AM (79EF9)

1006 1003 YankeeFifth,

yeah I'm pondering getting a custom leather butt pad made if I get one...

"My Heaven is a great hell"

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:27 AM (LRFds)

1007 1000
1000!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:25 AM (d/5qf)


Now try to post on an integer exponential value of e^x for a huge geek win.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:27 AM (lJJMb)

1008 Neighbor needs to grow a pair. .45-70 is a shove, much like a 12ga. I find it quite pleasant vs .308 from a lightweight rifle. It's nowhere near a tough round to shoot.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:24 AM (lJJMb)

my initial thought was the same, however, he had some bruise and he is by no means gun shy.

maybe he was simply trying to hide the fact his wife was knocking him around again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:28 AM (Z9EHQ)

1009 Charter arms has a 9mm revolver now.

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 01:28 AM (/7Xis)

1010 I gave money for the Tennessee flooding and for the Alabama tornadoes, but this one just seems different. hmm, wonder why.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (d/5qf)


I'm the same, my reason is they say big government works sooooo, they're good. As for big gov. working in the Nisqually earthquake here in 2001. Never saw the gov once. Would've starved if we dependended on them.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (rTgOf)

1011 "Oh, I don't think the guy even got arrested. I believe he shot some guys stealing his neighbors TV."



yep! the responding officers didn't even arrest him. grand jury declined to indict him, so he never even had to go to court!



like i said, "whole god-damn countryside" doctrine :3 goo~oo tx!♥

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:17 AM (79EF9)
That is .... awesome!Didn't the Black Panthers show up and try to harass him, but got driven out by a horde of angry neighbors?

Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (C+qQ0)

1012 Hey Sven shoulda taken my advice- cleaning is very zen. Conversions to what??

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (XDC0v)

1013 exp(6.915723)!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (d/5qf)

1014 I think some of the Sandy victims were from fairly conservative areas...Staten Island I think leans pretty right.

But I do agree with the overall idea. What galls me is remembering all those yankees whining about people who insist on living in hurricane areas. Oh and who knew parts of Manhattan were below sea level? Remember them bitching about New Orleans being below sea level? Suddenly it seems like not a big deal.


Hypocrites. Typical Libs.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (2rMmy)

1015 oops, exp fail

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (d/5qf)

1016 I gave money for the Tennessee flooding...


Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (d/5qf)


Thanks for that, by the way. The Feds never showed up, but somehow we carried on, thanks to people like ChemJeff and the locals, for whom dependency hasn't become habitual - yet.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:30 AM (lJJMb)

1017 BC, done with s&w. I've heard they have gotten better, but my very first piece was a s&w 4440, police surplus, and I hatehatehatehate that gun. Trigger pull feels like about 75 lbs and 2 feet.

Under combat conditions. If the fucker is close enough for me to hit him, I could also beat him to death with the gun.

As with all gun talk, YMMV.

This is your first piece, right?

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 01:30 AM (Ai+tZ)

1018 no problem StPatrick
I know you've got our back when the MO River floods again

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:31 AM (d/5qf)

1019
Now try to post on an integer exponential value of e^x for a huge geek win.




I bid one cent Bob!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:31 AM (GEICT)

1020 To reverse your previous analogy, that's like trying to break into a steel safe with a thumbtack. Conservatives don't get the funding, their films are intentionally trashed by the entertainment media, leftist actors won't take part, and you will go broke trying to break through.

****

Weren't there a couple of Christian movies that made bank in the last few years?


The problem with conservatives trying to replace the current liberal media and entertainment industries, is that they are being obviously conservative.

What they need to do is simply be neutral. If enough of them do that, then the left's influence will shrink. Then, perhaps, after people have established themselves, can they do stuff with conservative undertones -- still, nothing explicit.

The best way conservatives can win back this country is help get conservatives into teaching, the news, and entertainment -- with simple neutrality as the goal.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 11, 2012 01:31 AM (sZTYJ)

1021 yeah I'm pondering getting a custom leather butt pad made if I get one...



This sounds sooo funny. I know what it is, but still. I think I need to get to bed now. I am getting punchy.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:32 AM (2rMmy)

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 01:32 AM (4ixH5)

1023 1017 This is your first piece, right?

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 01:30 AM (Ai+tZ)



Yup.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:32 AM (GEICT)

1024 custom leather butt pad

That's hawt.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at November 11, 2012 01:33 AM (d/5qf)

1025 good one robert

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 01:33 AM (/7Xis)

1026 .357 is kinda stout for CCW... trade off the revolver reliability for twice as much capacity???

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:33 AM (XDC0v)

1027 1012 Dave,

I have a pair of 1851 navy colts that were converted to .38 special and had the bores sleeved for modern .357 diameter ammo.

Had a gunsmith slick up and polish the actions and tweak the aprings so they are true colt three clickers.

When wife was on her way home from Afghanistan she asked for either those or a pair of 1872 open tops for sass I bought her both and she took the '72s and gave me the '51s...

(which i prefer despite the cruder sites I am a Hickock fan)

http://youtu.be/RX6ekwEECeI

Something about the octagonal barrels.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (LRFds)

1028 thank you for your valuable insight Roberto

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (d/5qf)

1029 "I myself, would be fine with whole damn countryside doctrine."

me too.

i'm not a gun guy myself...but my fiancé, who's an air force intelligence officer♥, is really good with guns.

it makes me feel a hell of a lot safer that there will be gun in the house when i have to move to chicago after we get married and i'm done with my phd.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (79EF9)

1030 my initial thought was the same, however, he had some bruise and he is by no means gun shy.



maybe he was simply trying to hide the fact his wife was knocking him around again.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:28 AM (Z9EHQ)


I've shot that rifle, and it's stout, but there's no sudden "crack" like a high velocity round imparts - it's a shove. Your neighbor needs to pull that stock back tight into his shoulder and get a good cheekweld is my guess. Any gun (not .22s, of course) will bruise if you don't have it mounted tightly. It's like giving it a running start to your shoulder, and never ends well.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (lJJMb)

1031 I know. I have been surprising myself a lot this week. I normally send
in to help disaster victims. Sandy? Not so far. Not sure I will. I feel
very conflicted about it all at this point.


*****

We may have to get down in their gutters to fight them but indifference to human suffering is a gutter too deep.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (piMMO)

1032 Lord, I am back a week and I bet I make the top commenters tomorrow.

Y'll please stay up all night and push me down the list, okay???


And good night...you are all such sweethearts for putting up with my babbling!!!


Sleep sweet!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:35 AM (2rMmy)

1033 Lemme try again.

Good evening again!

Hey, Jefe! You still looking for a flatscreen TV?

Dude, Thanksgiving night Sears is selling limited quantities of of a Toshiba 50" LED for $300 bucks. After a brief search the user reviews all say it's pretty damn good!

I say go for it. Hell, I'm really thinking about it myself.

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 01:35 AM (4ixH5)

1034 I think some of the Sandy victims were from fairly conservative areas...Staten Island I think leans pretty right.

But I do agree with the overall idea. What galls me is remembering all those yankees whining about people who insist on living in hurricane areas. Oh and who knew parts of Manhattan were below sea level? Remember them bitching about New Orleans being below sea level? Suddenly it seems like not a big deal.


Hypocrites. Typical Libs.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM (2rMmy)

Staten Island is conservative - and has received less assistance than any other place in ny. every time a reporter went to a hurricane zone in staten island all you saw was absolute devestation and nothing and I mean nothing going on.

lots of parts of manhattan flood all the time. some parts of lower manhattan, including several new luxury high rises have been declared not habitable for at least 60 days. no water, no power, basements flooded with water sewage and fuel. more than 30 million square feet of office space in not usable in lower manhattan as well.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:35 AM (Z9EHQ)

1035 1018
no problem StPatrick
I know you've got our back when the MO River floods again


Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:31 AM (d/5qf)


No doubt. I hope somebody has both our backs when the New Madrid lets loose again. It's due, and will be nasty.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:35 AM (lJJMb)

1036 What they need to do is simply be neutral. If enough of them do that,
then the left's influence will shrink. Then, perhaps, after people have
established themselves, can they do stuff with conservative undertones
-- still, nothing explicit.


*****

Clint Eastwood is good at that.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (piMMO)

1037 the knoxx specops recoil-reducing stock is awesome. I share mine with everyone and they freak out it's so delightful

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (XDC0v)

1038 1026 Dave,

It is but I am not small and a glazer safety slug in .357 magnum is a nice mandatory break time for a bad client.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (LRFds)

1039 The best way conservatives can win back this country
is help get conservatives into teaching, the news, and entertainment --
with simple neutrality as the goal.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 11, 2012 01:31 AM (sZTYJ)

===
too little, too late. nothing is going to change now before real hunger sets in. too many people think all things come to them in packages without anyone having to do a hard or dirty job to make it happen. watching someone dig a ditch is not the same as having to do it.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (ufJKx)

1040 good one robert

Posted by: The Jackhole on Ventura Highway at November 11, 2012 01:33 AM (/7Xis)

*Bows*



thank you for your valuable insight Roberto


Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (d/5qf)

The wisdom of the ages flows through me like the babbling brook.

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (4ixH5)

1041 Yes, Staten Island did go for Romney this time. And they went for McCain last time. But, like so many others including millions of Californians in particular, it doesn't matter what they do. They live in a one-party state. And it is incredible what I'm seeing in this hurricane response. Did you know that tons of food has been sent, but the govt is sitting on it trying to figure out the salt content? Residents of Long Island weren't going to have their power turned on until their homes were inspected? And, you had to be there when the inspectors arrived? And, they couldn't tell you when the inpectors were coming? And, if you weren't there, they'd remove your meter? And, the only way to get the meter back was to pay a licensed, sanctioned (read: union) electrician? All these sorts of things have been going on. It is insane, and the biggest impediment to relief has been, surprise, the governments!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (WcgMM)

1042 1014
I think some of the Sandy victims were from fairly conservative areas...Staten Island I think leans pretty right.





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:29 AM

Might be a relative term. Returns show that Obama won Staten Island.

Then again, some of those who would have voted differently might have had other concerns than getting to the voting booth. They might have also been suckered by the "Romney wants to eliminate FEMA, who will be here any day now to save you"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM (wwsoB)

1043 1032 Lord, I am back a week and I bet I make the top commenters tomorrow.

Y'll please stay up all night and push me down the list, okay???


And good night...you are all such sweethearts for putting up with my babbling!!!


Sleep sweet!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 11, 2012 01:35 AM (2rMmy)



Nite Tam! I'm prob right there with ya. Although the story thread earlier prob jacked with comment totals. See ya later!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (GEICT)

1044 ttp://tinyurl.com/bd4qxmy

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:22 AM (wwsoB)



I think you misunderstand, it is in their dna, the are drawn to psychos

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:23 AM (Z9EHQ)

I love how they are absolutely scared that he will take Asia more seriously. Considering their economic state they should be worried. Even Obama knows Europe isn't important anymore.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (NzBQO)

1045 All this gun talk is cool. But it would be even better if all gun talk was also done with pirate accents and vernacular.

Yarr.... ye can keep yer new fangled wheel guns with yer fancy cartridges.

As fer me mateys, give me a good flint lock and cutlass and I'll have any boarders liver fer me breakfast.

Yarrr...

Posted by: EFG at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (C+qQ0)

1046 I hear eva longoria wears a custom leather butt pad.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (Z9EHQ)

1047 1039 JC,

Yup.

I aim to live in a converted Conex in Louisiana and work a spread while driving a wrecker again.

Let it burn I'll be fine.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (LRFds)

1048 *Sigh*

I missed Miss Tammy.

Good night, Miss Tammy!

Sweet dreams!

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (4ixH5)

1049 "Didn't the Black Panthers show up and try to harass him, but got driven out by a horde of angry neighbors?"

YES!!!!

that was the best part xD xD

quanel x, a long-time racial rabble-rouser in houston, tried to bring a protest thru the area to bemoan the "racial" aspect of the killings.

suffice it to say that exurbia houston wasn't having any of his nonsense, and chased him away not once, but twice, with the solidarity of counter-protests that made him look like an impotent nonentity, no matter how eager the media was to give him airtime!

Posted by: jimi ray at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (79EF9)

1050 Quit being a troll Jimi

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:37 AM (XDC0v)

1051 BC, shoot it. A lot.

Every week if you have the time, once a month at a minimum. And take the NRA basic pistol course. Or any other good training course.

Some things you can wing it. Shooting is not among them.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 01:38 AM (Ai+tZ)

1052 1045 EFG,

If we can wreck the federal G on the shoals matey I hear about that piratin' is a noble profession and they don't kill them anymore since the somalis can't help it.

Argh

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:38 AM (LRFds)

1053 We may have to get down in their gutters to fight them but indifference to human suffering is a gutter too deep.


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 01:34 AM (piMMO)

===
That is why I am conflicted. And yet, they continually vote for me to be a slave without any real consequences. How am I supposed to get that to stop?

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:38 AM (ufJKx)

1054 I read it on AoS

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:39 AM (XDC0v)

1055 986 Conservatives should support pro-legal immigration groups and reforming immigration laws, and then doing everything they can to help out the immigrants from their first application to come here, to when their children are elderly.
-
No, importing a new nation is fatal for the old nation, and that is not a conservative position.

Also, the immigrants will all be more socialist than White Americans. Hispanics are Democrats. Asians too.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 01:40 AM (ZBvKu)

1056 Alright folks, I'm enjoying the gun talk, I suggested to Ace that we have a gun thread and he agreed but I got bored waiting, but I gotta get up in about 5 hours, so peace out.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:41 AM (GEICT)

1057 Now my hands smell like gunpowder. Kinda stings when I give myself my twice-hourly proctological exams tho

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:41 AM (XDC0v)

1058 1053 JC,

See I had my moral event horizon when my boss from down South a pious man perhaps the most pious I know that I had never heard curse once f bombed the drama and ineptness over Sandy not landing a blow on JEF or Joisey Buddah....

It's time fight fire with fire.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:41 AM (LRFds)

1059 Night, BC. And Miss Tammy.

Hi Robert.

Everyone say "goodnight DC"

See y'all Monday night.

Posted by: DC in Towson at November 11, 2012 01:42 AM (Ai+tZ)

1060 Can't be too careful

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:42 AM (XDC0v)

1061 1055 the lightworker,

Guy that ship may have sailed forever....you need to decide whether you want to prevent the reconquista as top question.

If so I'd ponder abolishing INS and leetting 'em all come in.

We'd still be the biggest individual baby bell then.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:43 AM (LRFds)

1062 Staten Island is conservative - and has received
less assistance than any other place in ny.




Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:35 AM (Z9EHQ)

===
is there any way for us to help them without propping up the assholes in surrounding areas that think they own us?

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:44 AM (ufJKx)

1063 Good night, DC!

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 01:44 AM (4ixH5)

1064 1066 was the beginning of the dark ages

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:44 AM (XDC0v)

1065 No, importing a new nation is fatal for the old nation, and that is not a conservative position.

Also, the immigrants will all be more socialist than White Americans. Hispanics are Democrats. Asians too.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 01:40 AM (ZBvKu)


QFT. Canada (CANADA!!!) is focusing on highly-skilled immigrants right now with no screams of racism, while we are apparently bound to accept the tired, poor, et al. based on some 19th century biddy's stupid poem. Bring us your Engineers, your Welders, your Electricians and Pipefitters and Millwrights, and we might make something out of this mess. This idea that anybody can come in is disastrous. I want immigrants that add to the productivity of this country from day one, since our kids are all apparently on the law / medecine / MBA or nothing (e.g. retail and unemployment) track, and most end up on the nothing side of the ledger. I need skilled tradesmen and can't get them.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:45 AM (lJJMb)

1066 Night MissT, DC, and others. Hey Roberto.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:45 AM (ufJKx)

1067 Long Island weren't going to have their power turned
on until their homes were inspected? And, you had to be there when the
inspectors arrived? And, they couldn't tell you when the inpectors were
coming? And, if you weren't there, they'd remove your meter? And, the
only way to get the meter back was to pay a licensed, sanctioned (read:
union) electrician? All these sorts of things have been going on. It is
insane, and the biggest impediment to relief has been, surprise, the
governments!

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 01:36 AM

How can that be when Barry Obullshit swore that the red tape would be cut to get the aid there like yesterday?

Oh, and look how much Choom Boy is concerned about them now .. I wonder if Fat Boy caddied for him ..

http://tinyurl.com/bakqg4m

President Barack Obama is spending his first Saturday after winning reelection on the golf course. Today's outing is to the course on Andrews Air Force Base.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:46 AM (wwsoB)

1068 Howdy, JC!

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 01:47 AM (4ixH5)

1069 Haha my nic has XD in it. Just like my backpack

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:47 AM (XDC0v)

1070 is there any way for us to help them without propping up the assholes in surrounding areas that think they own us?
Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:44 AM (ufJKx)


thing is the red cross isn't helping them either. They had a guy from there on fox the other night the said the red cross gave them some blankets that were the size of towels and that was it and then they left.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 01:48 AM (rTgOf)

1071 is there any way for us to help them without propping up the assholes in surrounding areas that think they own us?
Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:44 AM (ufJKx)

short of dropping stuff off yourself no. Do not send the red cross an effin dime either. Everyone in SI is furious with the treatment the red cross gave the SI people - coffee and cookies, no blankets or clothes. oh yeah, fema showed up and closed down for three days when they heard a snow storm was approaching. apparently obama hates white people.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:48 AM (Z9EHQ)

1072 Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:45 AM (lJJMb)

===
If things were right, we could trade. Someone manages to get from Guatemala to Chicago to get a job -- great, keep them. Send a welfare queen back in return. Who cares about papers, it is the intent that counts.

Posted by: jc at November 11, 2012 01:48 AM (ufJKx)

1073 1056
Alright folks, I'm enjoying the gun talk, I suggested to Ace that we
have a gun thread and he agreed but I got bored waiting, but I gotta get
up in about 5 hours, so peace out.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 11, 2012 01:41 AM

Probably prudent not to have a gun thread with all the anger about King Choom right now, and some rather rash comments coming out.

The blog is big enough now that Big Sis keeps tabs on it

Posted by: kbdabear at November 11, 2012 01:49 AM (wwsoB)

1074 1073 KBDaBear,

yeah I'll keep my opinions about the blue helmets and FMJH +P fun to myself.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:50 AM (LRFds)

1075 1069
Haha my nic has XD in it. Just like my backpack

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:47 AM (XDC0v)


It wasn't actually that time, but since DAve felt it was time to pull out hashes for a contest, I am compelled.

My hash contains "JMB", and yours do not.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:51 AM (lJJMb)

1076 thing is the red cross isn't helping them
either. They had a guy from there on fox the other night the said the
red cross gave them some blankets that were the size of towels and that
was it and then they left.

Posted by: robtr at November 11, 2012 01:48 AM

Don't send icky clothing, the Red Cross needs cash! The CEO of Red Cross can't treat us to dinner at the best joint in Manhattan on used Levis you know!

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at November 11, 2012 01:51 AM (wwsoB)

1077 I am staunchly in favor of enforcing immigration laws as is. no amnesty. however, I do wonder about some of the immigrants, illegals, versus the people that are on welfare.

nyc is overrun with illegal immigrants, but those guys work like slaves. I am sure they get paid cash and no benefits. If we had a way to bring them in and assimilate them it might not be all bad.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:52 AM (Z9EHQ)

1078 That's a winner there, St. P

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:53 AM (XDC0v)

1079 1077 Yankeefifth,

I'll accept piecemeal amnesty for one group if Barry negotiates open borders with canada and a canadian amnesty.

I'd like to live in a grown-up nation with regards to energy.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:53 AM (LRFds)

1080 If we can wreck the federal G on the shoals matey I hear about that piratin' is a noble profession and they don't kill them anymore since the somalis can't help it.Argh

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:38 AM

Yeah, but when the somalis do it, they're poor oppressed people trying to make it in a neo-colonialist world by spreading the wealth around. If you did it, it would be an imperialist act of rapacious capitalism. Probably racist, too. President gutsy call would hang ye from the yard arm, quicker than ye could load yer flintlock.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 01:53 AM (yBF/9)

1081 If we had a way to bring them in and assimilate them it might not be all bad.

We send them to public schools, so no assimilation.

Posted by: t-bird at November 11, 2012 01:54 AM (FcR7P)

1082 I passed my California firearms test at 100%.
Bought the husband a SW 9mm military and police semi automatic today. Early Christmas gift. Me, I'm getting the SW 357 revolver. Me likey.

Posted by: mpfs at November 11, 2012 01:54 AM (H9Xw8)

1083 499 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.
Posted by: The Lightworker at November 10, 2012 10:54 PM (u58W2)

By the time it gets to Barry's desk, if it ever gets that far, it will be so watered down it will make no difference.

It will never happen.
-
Try. You have nothing to gain by not advocating it.

Do you understand what is in store for you? The anti-White left wants to import a new nation and get rid of the old one. Chronic mass non-White immigration plus compulsory integration and assimilation means a future without White people. Then the Democrats would rule like the A.N.C. in South Africa, and eventually like Mugabe in Zimbabwe.

There is no reward for going along with this plan quietly and nicely.

The only potential reward is for opposition. No matter how bad the odds, no matter how long and hard the road, the right thing to do is to struggle, or at least advocate struggle.

If it doesn't work under one President it may work under another. Keep trying to build momentum.

Pass it on: repeal the Hollywood tax cuts.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 01:55 AM (ZBvKu)

1084 Cowboy, can you document any of that?

Posted by: Boone at November 11, 2012 01:55 AM (DDu66)

1085 1080 Otho,

No doubt I assure you O's got a lot more fire in his belly for putting bad Yanks in the ground rather than jihadi jim...

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:56 AM (LRFds)

1086
I'll accept piecemeal amnesty for one group if Barry negotiates open borders with canada and a canadian amnesty.

I'd like to live in a grown-up nation with regards to energy.
Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:53 AM (LRFds)


I am in

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:56 AM (Z9EHQ)

1087 nyc is overrun with illegal immigrants, but those
guys work like slaves. I am sure they get paid cash and no benefits.
If we had a way to bring them in and assimilate them it might not
be all bad.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:52 AM (Z9EHQ)


Y5th, your heart is in a good place, but: they are here illegally. The people who brought them here should be punished to the fullest extent of the law - under both immigration and labor laws - and the workers they brought in should be sent home.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:56 AM (lJJMb)

1088 1082 Just make sure to try one out at a range first to be sure that's what you really want- although you can shoot .38 through it if the .357's a little too harsh. It is for me-

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 01:57 AM (XDC0v)

1089 1082 MPFS,

enjoy....

I like wheel guns.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 01:58 AM (LRFds)

1090 If we had a way to bring them in and assimilate them it might not be all bad.

We send them to public schools, so no assimilation.
Posted by: t-bird at November 11, 2012 01:54 AM (FcR7P)

I guess that explains why the home countries never let us send them back.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 01:58 AM (Z9EHQ)

1091 Yes, everything I claimed I got from regular news sources.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 01:58 AM (WcgMM)

1092 DAve,
I did try it out and was surprised how easy it was to handle.

Posted by: mpfs at November 11, 2012 02:00 AM (H9Xw8)

1093 Y5th, your heart is in a good place, but: they are here illegally. The people who brought them here should be punished to the fullest extent of the law - under both immigration and labor laws - and the workers they brought in should be sent home.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 01:56 AM (lJJMb)

I agree completely. I am only saying they have a work ethic you do not see in more than 47% of Americans. Maybe we can make a trade.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 11, 2012 02:00 AM (Z9EHQ)

1094 1087 I know LOTS of illegals and one cannot generalize about their work habits or orientation. At least in CA.

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:01 AM (XDC0v)

1095 1092 Then proceed with my blessing Do you know where your local ranges are?

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:02 AM (XDC0v)

1096 Women voted their "lady parts" that's the bottomline. I will never again allow ANY woman to joke about men thinking first about their "small head"...men know and know THEY know the truth. Sex is the NUMBER ONE thing for women. What ya gonna do tomorrow, ladies?

Posted by: watchhisface at November 11, 2012 02:03 AM (ITTLm)

1097 8 million of the last 10 million people who came to CA. went on Medicaid

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:04 AM (XDC0v)

1098 The interesting thing, to me, about the lefties' long term plan, is their absolute disregard for the long-term implications of their explicit demographic appeals. All the squishy republicans are running around screeching about a need for amnesty in order to buy a few Hispanic votes (at a 20:80 rate, which proves how savvy our leadership is), but the dems are easy-peezy with the coalition they've built.


What happens when the rich white dems who have been all-in for all of these constituency-based politicking strategies find themselves inevitably outnumbered?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:05 AM (lJJMb)

1099 Cowboy, I appreciate that. But so you have any links? Know some people I would like to pass that along to.

Posted by: Boone at November 11, 2012 02:06 AM (tIyK2)

1100 1098 St P from TN,

they go deaf from the high decibel mass laughter from The Constitutional States of America?

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 02:07 AM (LRFds)

1101 1098 I think they're assuming we'll be completely globalized ala the One World by then

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:08 AM (XDC0v)

1102 Have any of you ever watched "Gigolos"?

What a bunch of whiny ass metros.

Women pay for that?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:09 AM (piMMO)

1103 What happens when the rich white dems who have been all-in for all of
these constituency-based politicking strategies find themselves
inevitably outnumbered?


doesn't bother them - these rich white dems of which you speak are the ones teaaching Grievance Studies at the local U. and so will have a job regardless

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:09 AM (d/5qf)

1104 1096
Women voted their "lady parts" that's the bottomline. I will never again
allow ANY woman to joke about men thinking first about their "small
head"...men know and know THEY know the truth. Sex is the NUMBER ONE
thing for women. What ya gonna do tomorrow, ladies?


Posted by: watchhisface at November 11, 2012 02:03 AM

They voted their vaginas and elected a giant douche

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at November 11, 2012 02:09 AM (wwsoB)

1105 Cowboy, I appreciate that. But so you have any links? Know some people I would like to pass that along to. I'm not well connected, but I know people that are.

Posted by: Boone at November 11, 2012 02:10 AM (tIyK2)

1106 1098 Police state run by white leftist elites.

Posted by: chris at November 11, 2012 02:10 AM (KDAAY)

1107 Women pay for that?


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:09 AM (piMMO)

that depends... what are you looking for?

Posted by: chemjeff - gigolo? at November 11, 2012 02:10 AM (d/5qf)

1108 huh, it's really raining here now

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:12 AM (d/5qf)

1109 that depends... what are you looking for?


****

Whatcha selling?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:13 AM (piMMO)

1110 doesn't bother them - these rich white dems of which
you speak are the ones teaaching Grievance Studies at the local U. and
so will have a job regardless


Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:09 AM (d/5qf)


No, they won't. If the leftist vision of what America should be succeeds, they'll be the first to be tossed on the trashpile once the...dammit, I'm not even going to articulate the rest of this thought.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:14 AM (lJJMb)

1111
Whatcha selling?


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:13 AM (piMMO)

my glorious naked body
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr6lqKGdgXE

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:14 AM (d/5qf)

1112 I suspect you're right, St. P...with a few important exceptions. China and Cambodia have already shown us how this plays out

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:15 AM (XDC0v)

1113 What happens when the rich white dems who have been all-in for all of these constituency-based politicking strategies find themselves inevitably outnumbered?

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:05 AM

The patronage system. They're down with it.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 02:16 AM (yBF/9)

1114 1110 St P from TN,

Guy take a breath and relax just because we've seen this movie doesn't mean we need to give Harry Reid and Granny Botox the spoiler....

(Zimbabwe)

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 02:17 AM (LRFds)

1115 my glorious naked body
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr6lqKGdgXE


****


eew! Eew! EEW!

I thought it might be Peter Griffin.

It wasn't

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:17 AM (piMMO)

1116 DAve,
Yup, I've been to three of the local ranges already. Found the one I like the best. I can't wait to finally get it and head out to the desert.

When I was at the range today the young man who was helping us told us about the guy who came in with a SW 500. He said it was like a frigging pirate cannon. When he was shooting in the range you could feel the vibration in the front. The ammo for it was huge. You better get what you're shooting at on the first shot because you'll be flat on your ass and no chance for a second shot.

Posted by: mpfs at November 11, 2012 02:18 AM (Mkhiu)

1117 Chemjeff, this is one you'll appreciate, if you haven't seen it already: http://tinyurl.com/5lmmx

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:18 AM (lJJMb)

1118 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:17 AM (piMMO)

so then... you're willing to make an offer?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:19 AM (d/5qf)

1119 at any rate voluntary coma inbound....

You know if Ogabe says that there are no international victims and that the downtrodden are noble an granted special rights....

maybe we should bring back the filibustering of the 1800s since harry reid wants to change the filibuster so badly.

I'd like to talk to Mugabe.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 02:19 AM (LRFds)

1120 @ 41 .."Don't forget the can opener"

I already have that covered..My opener is a K-bar..adept at opening cans, Looters and UN blue helmets.

No respectable Kitchen should be without one.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 02:19 AM (L2nsu)

1121 When I was at the range today the young man who was
helping us told us about the guy who came in with a SW 500. He said it
was like a frigging pirate cannon. When he was shooting in the range you
could feel the vibration in the front. The ammo for it was huge. You
better get what you're shooting at on the first shot because you'll be
flat on your ass and no chance for a second shot.
Posted by: mpfs at November 11, 2012 02:18 AM (Mkhiu)


I've been in the lane next to a person shooting one - the concussion was huge. I can't say I understand the need for such a thing, but I understand why it exists - because it can! I love the ingenuity of people, even if I can't grok why they do what they do most times.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:21 AM (lJJMb)

1122 Romney takes Staten Island:
http://tinyurl.com/aojz3q9 (Staten Island Advance, based on AP numbers)
Bloomberg bans donated food, due to salt and fat content:
http://tinyurl.com/7khtd9j (FOX News)
Long Island power restoration cluster:
http://tinyurl.com/aux2s7x (FOX News) - this is just one article. I couldn't find the one Drudge was linking to this morning that had greater detail.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 02:21 AM (WcgMM)

1123 1117
Chemjeff, this is one you'll appreciate, if you haven't seen it already: http://tinyurl.com/5lmmx


Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:18 AM (lJJMb)

lol that is awesome

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:21 AM (d/5qf)

1124 A gigolo just appeared at a hotel room to find his client dressed head to toe in a cat costume.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:22 AM (piMMO)

1125 meow?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:23 AM (d/5qf)

1126 986 Conservatives should support pro-legal immigration groups and reforming immigration laws, and then doing everything they can to help out the immigrants from their first application to come here, to when their children are elderly.
-
No, importing a new nation is fatal for the old nation, and that is not a conservative position.

Also, the immigrants will all be more socialist than White Americans. Hispanics are Democrats. Asians too.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 11, 2012 01:40 AM (ZBvKu)


I never said that we should be open border at all. We should very much limit immigration, but for those who DO immigrate, we should help them and try to set-up an alternative to the left.

Grabbing groups before the other guy and continuously working to keep them is what brought the left to power. We must break that.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 11, 2012 02:23 AM (sZTYJ)

1127 1112
I suspect you're right, St. P...with a few important exceptions. China and Cambodia have already shown us how this plays out

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:15 AM (XDC0v)


Yep, DAve, I have yet to learn of an advanced degree that provides protection against violence. Even if the alligator eats you last, in the end, you will be eaten. How is it the lefties play the long game so well in the institutions, but so poorly in other areas? My only guess is they believe their own hype.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:24 AM (lJJMb)

1128 Bloomberg bans donated food, due to salt and fat content:

http://tinyurl.com/7khtd9j (FOX News)

****

I can't even get my head around it

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:25 AM (piMMO)

1129 okay... do I crack open my last beer or do I go to bed?
decisions, decisioms

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:26 AM (d/5qf)

1130 meow?


****

Now I'm laughing because it was a bear costume and his buddy set it up to get even with him

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:26 AM (piMMO)

1131 I think Bloomberg waived that food reg, on Nov 8th if I recall correctly. Meaning, last Thursday.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 02:28 AM (WcgMM)

1132 okay... do I crack open my last beer or do I go to bed?decisions, decisioms

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:26 AM

Let the liquor do the thinking.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 02:30 AM (yBF/9)

1133 meow?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:23 AM (d/5qf)

BARKBARKBARKBARK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 02:30 AM (4ixH5)

1134 otho, okay then, beer it is

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:31 AM (d/5qf)

1135 well actually I should probably get to bed now.
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at November 11, 2012 02:31 AM (d/5qf)

1136 Ya know, this instant coffee says decaf but I was still awake well after noon today.

I don't think this stuff is all that decaffeinated.

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 02:32 AM (4ixH5)

1137 Good night, Jefe!

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 02:32 AM (4ixH5)

1138 I don't think this stuff is all that decaffeinated.

***

Even decaf still has a small amount of caffeine in it

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:33 AM (piMMO)

1139 night CJ

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 02:33 AM (yBF/9)

1140 Thanks Cowboy, I'll pass those along.

Posted by: Boone at November 11, 2012 02:34 AM (tIyK2)

1141 Hey there was some gun chat up on here. Oh yeah!

Get em while you can fellers. Commie McFalp ears (who looks like a volvo from the back with both doors open) will take them!

Its generally grandfathered if you already have them.

Love the AR 15, but don't have one. I like those commie guns...Ak's , T-53's, SKS's, and old Com Bloc mausers like 24/47's and M48's.

Ammo was cheap, back in the day, bought it by the crate.

How embarrassing would it be for a commie, wanting to take over our once great country to get shot with one his own firearms?

Poetic Justice I says!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 02:38 AM (L2nsu)

1142 Even decaf still has a small amount of caffeine in it


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 11, 2012 02:33 AM (piMMO)

Might be a bit more than a small amount.
*Twitch*

Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 02:39 AM (4ixH5)

1143 Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 02:38 AM

Have you tried the SVT?

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 02:42 AM (yBF/9)

1144 Holy crap, over 1K already? See what happens when you get here late, you miss all the fun!


Evening roonz and roonettez! (although technically it's morning I guess)

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 02:46 AM (yh0zB)

1145
Idea: Pygmy Tigers. Big paws ears and head, minus the adult impulse to prey rip you to pieces for breakfast with nasty sharp pointy teeth.

Posted by: MikeD at November 11, 2012 02:46 AM (p8QOg)

1146 Ahoy-hoy.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 02:47 AM (yBF/9)

1147 minus the adult impulse to prey rip you to pieces for breakfast with nasty sharp pointy teeth.

Hmm. What do you use as guard animals for your volcano-disguised supervillain lair, then?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 02:48 AM (RJVJw)

1148 "How embarrassing would it be for a commie, wanting to take over our once great country to get shot with one his own firearms? "

The Russians are trying to assert patents on those things now, and they're pissed off because everyone and his brother is still making AK-47s without paying a license fee.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 11, 2012 02:48 AM (1+XRG)

1149 For those gunnies concerned about the next wave of gun control, there's nothing that's getting through both houses of congress. That means executive orders. The weakest point in the gun supply chain is ammo, and the weakest point there is the primer. They contain salts that could potentially be regulated by the EPA, even before lead in bullets. Get your primers now, even if you don't reload. They're cheap, and if the big grab never materializes, you have some primers. Personally, I doubt O has the balls to pull any gun control nonsense prior to the '14 elections, but he may care so little about the rest of his party it's possible.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:49 AM (lJJMb)

1150 Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 02:46 AM (yh0zB)


Good to see you here, GGE.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:50 AM (lJJMb)

1151 "Get your primers now, even if you don't reload. They're cheap, and if the big grab never materializes, you have some primers. "

How long do primers last?

"Personally, I doubt O has the balls to pull any gun control nonsense prior to the '14 elections, but he may care so little about the rest of his party it's possible."

I think the Democrats learned their lesson last time around. They'll still try to snip around the edges in states like NY and MA, but they're looking at a repeat of 2010 if they try to do anything substantial. Here's hoping.

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 11, 2012 02:51 AM (1+XRG)

1152 Guess how I just found out I forgot how to reassemble a 1911... thank God for youtube...

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:52 AM (XDC0v)

1153 fuck, zakn dropped the keys to this place into my lap and I have no clue in how to do the title in html

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 02:52 AM (tw6Ar)

1154 OK, keyboard nerds, are Cherry MX Blue switches decent approximates of IBM Model M keyboards?

I half-busted my Fujitsu Model M clone, and am on the lookout for a replacement.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 02:56 AM (RJVJw)

1155 How long do primers last?


Modern ammunition components are nearly indefinitely shelf-stable, provided storage at room temperature and normal humidity. Loaded rounds will be around longer than either of us.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:57 AM (lJJMb)

1156 BARKBARKBARKBARK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Robert at November 11, 2012 02:30 AM (4ixH5)


http://youtu.be/ceINiVCHf_w

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 02:57 AM (bxiXv)

1157 I also wanna know how long primers last... in the cartridge it's decades- is it if they haven't been loaded? Ammo is indeed the key- no need to regulate elephants if you can ban the elephant chow... i was so pleased with the election results I went out and did a 5K...Freedom Munitions is my brand

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 02:57 AM (XDC0v)

1158 That said, goodnight, morons. I need to be somewhat brighteyed and busheytailed for Mom's b-day tomorrow.

Posted by: StPatrick_TN at November 11, 2012 02:58 AM (lJJMb)

1159 @ 1143...SVT's..they are great..I don't have one. Those canucks get em cheap, but in the states they are pricey. Thank you for that BATF!

Its a bit like the Hakim (I have one of those) with the gas valve adjustment or so I heard.

I love the 7.62 x 54r..like a commie 30-06!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 02:59 AM (L2nsu)

1160 Hey there, night owls.

irongrandpa...thank you.

Here's what I'm thinking. I know what's ahead of us, and I'm not in a position to prepare since my salary stinks on ice. I (barely) qualify for EBT in my state. My thought is to apply, and if I'm approved, my money that once went to the regular food budge t could be used to stock up on supplies and maybe even buy some silver.

The question I face: it may be the rational thing to do, but is it the moral thing to do? You know I'm having trouble making up my mind if I'm asking all of you. ;P

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 11, 2012 02:59 AM (5J54Q)

1161 OK, keyboard nerds, are Cherry MX Blue switches decent approximates of IBM Model M keyboards?


Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 02:56 AM (RJVJw)

been awhile since I've used an M but from muscle memory, they feel close to it

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:00 AM (tw6Ar)

1162 Thanks St.P 2 AR's, 2 XD's, and a 1911 and I'm done. Shouldn't leave all your cleaning for one night but it took my mind off recent events beautifully. Happy Vet Day

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 03:01 AM (XDC0v)

1163 How long do primers last?

Posted by: Ace's liver at November 11, 2012 02:51 AM (1+XRG)


Stored properly 20-60 years (kind of an unknown, generally people say after 20 years you may or may not have random failures).

Properly is moderate temperatures (never over 150, preferably under 100 F), low humidity.

Local fire codes and other laws may dictate you can only have ridiculously low limits on how many primers you can have in a residence.

10,000? Seriously? SOMEBODY has never met a reloader.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:03 AM (bxiXv)

1164 1159:
"I love the 7.62 x 54r..like a commie 30-06!" Well, yeah, except for the big $$$$$$$$ difference...

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 03:05 AM (XDC0v)

1165 SVT's..they are great..I don't have one. Those canucks get em cheap, but in the states they are pricey. Thank you for that BATF! Its a bit like the Hakim (I have one of those) with the gas valve adjustment or so I heard. I love the 7.62 x 54r..like a commie 30-06!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 02:59 AM

Yeah, SVT is a bloody good rifle. Best thing they ever mass produced in a combat rifle, IMHO. Works like a charm ans the punch you want. Canadians get em cheap, huh? Well, at least somebody's getting them cheap.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 03:05 AM (yBF/9)

1166 OK, keyboard nerds, are Cherry MX Blue switches decent approximates of IBM Model M keyboards?


Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 02:56 AM (RJVJw)


It may not even be a question of similarity, there are many more options now.

The blues are considered the best for typing, the blacks for gaming, because of their characteristics.

The blues encourage you to have a light touch, and that may cause you issues using multiple different keyboards.

If you tend to hit a lot of extra keys typing, blues may not be for you.

http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:09 AM (bxiXv)

1167 since Movign and Waterhouse are here, can you guys do a quick once over on a draft I posted for today's gaming thread? My HTML skills suck ass

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:09 AM (tw6Ar)

1168 Captain Whitebread, you should apply for EBT. It is the rational and moral thing to do. And, actively seek a way out of it.

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 03:10 AM (WcgMM)

1169 I have a box of large primers for the Arisaka and a box of small primers for the Grok, about 470 pieces of .45ACP brass and a bit over 100 pieces of 6.5x50. I have a little over 1K rounds of .223 but the Saiga is a 5.56 chamber so I'm okay to shoot milsurp 5.56 in it. I have a little over 1700 rounds for the Mosin. I need some more .223 and always more shotgun shells. The Arisaka will become a wall piece when the zombie apocalypse comes anyway.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:10 AM (yh0zB)

1170 The question I face: it may be the rational thing to do, but is it the moral thing to do? You know I'm having trouble making up my mind if I'm asking all of you. ;P

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 11, 2012 02:59 AM (5J54Q)


Ultimately? No. But I don't believe people have to be perfect.

I don't have a problem with you trying to protect yourself with the resources made available to you.

I don't even object to a "safety net" if the government hasn't spent all the money in the fucking world twice like drunken crack whores with stolen checkbooks.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:11 AM (bxiXv)

1171 1167 since Movign and Waterhouse are here, can you guys do a quick once over on a draft I posted for today's gaming thread? My HTML skills suck ass
Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:09 AM (tw6Ar)


Oh, look. A new spelling.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:12 AM (bxiXv)

1172 What's the verdict on the Arisaka? Have only ever joy popped one once.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 03:13 AM (yBF/9)

1173
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:12 AM (bxiXv)

every time I write your name is different. You're a special little snowflake

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:13 AM (tw6Ar)

1174 1172 otho,

the Arisaka is somewhere between the M96 Swede and the Man-Car....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 03:14 AM (LRFds)

1175 Something I've noticed: you gotta be real careful how you type "Sith"

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 03:14 AM (WcgMM)

1176 1175 Something I've noticed: you gotta be real careful how you type "Sith"

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 03:14 AM (WcgMM)


I am nothing if not a wellspring of opportunity.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:16 AM (bxiXv)

1177
@1160

It's tempting, isn't it?

Just remember that the Cloward-Piven strategy is to get people hooked on that stuff, and to have it eventually collapse the system. While that might sound great about now, the idea is to "transform America", as Obama puts it - to a permanent socialist state.

You intentionally cause the system to collapse, and then say "See - it doesn't work." Then everybody surrenders their freedoms voluntarily (goodbye Constitution!)and it takes a Revolution to try to get it back. Feel like taking on the US military?

OTOH, if it just damages the Democrat brand, as things go badly, that'd be OK.

The thing is, we need to work on getting the message out about what an abject failure Obama and socialism is. Challenge the MFM. They barely won this time. In fact, I'm not sure they even won legitimately.

If we, or even Congress, start playing along to just show the disaster it will cause, when the time comes for something different, we just look like hypocrites.

It could be that this just starts to turn around the political correctness. We elected a "black man". Stop giving us all that stupid crap about what racists we are. The libtards believe that white people are racist, whether they're racist or not (even if they, themselves, are white - the wear it like Original Sin), and that elevating a black person is some sort of virtue, regardless of their merit. Non-ideological people are going to get sick of that eventually, and they might even buy that we can be prosperous again - that it doesn't have to be this way.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 11, 2012 03:16 AM (Mxt9o)

1178 http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide

That's an excellent link, thanks.

can you guys do a quick once over on a draft I posted for today's gaming thread? My HTML skills suck ass


I am far too drunk to do anything other than a once-over of Blake Lively.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 03:17 AM (RJVJw)

1179 every time I write your name is different. You're a special little snowflake

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:13 AM (tw6Ar)


So anyway I will not *even* be up then. Can you see our e-mails as a Cob or do I have to horribly violate my internet security to help you?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:17 AM (bxiXv)

1180 Merovign,

The protection of my family is the reason I'm considering it at all. It sucks, but it's what this socialist regime has driven me to.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 11, 2012 03:17 AM (5J54Q)

1181 What's the verdict on the Arisaka? Have only ever joy popped one once.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 03:13 AM (yBF/9)


Mine is a type 30 carbine, produced around 1902 or so and replaced as obsolete by 1905. They went to the T38 pretty quickly. My carbine shoots about 8" high at 100 yards, I haven't sighted it at 200 but from what I understand they were "battle sighted" at 300 yards or so. It's a fun little rifle, recoil isn't bad, big enough caliber for deer in all states.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:18 AM (yh0zB)

1182 Ah, ok. The 38 carcano is ok, for what it is. Better than I thought it'd be. Dunno about the swede, never handled one.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 03:19 AM (yBF/9)

1183 Waterhouse, if I had Blake Lively I wouldn't even know what a fucking internet looked like.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:19 AM (bxiXv)

1184
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:17 AM (bxiXv)

no clue, just kinda had it it dumped into my lap about an hour ago

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:20 AM (tw6Ar)

1185 1182 Otho,

The M96 is without a doubt the most innately accurate battle rifle I have ever shot.

The 6.5 swede is a pencil flat ballistic envelope.

Can't praise it enough.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 03:21 AM (LRFds)

1186 Mine is a type 30 carbine, produced around 1902 or so and replaced as obsolete by 1905. They went to the T38 pretty quickly. My carbine shoots about 8" high at 100 yards, I haven't sighted it at 200 but from what I understand they were "battle sighted" at 300 yards or so. It's a fun little rifle, recoil isn't bad, big enough caliber for deer in all states.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:18 AM

Thanks. Can't remember exactly which type I used. I can remember I couldn't hit shit with it, though. Mind you I chalked it up to me rather than the rifle. Fascinating piece, though.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 03:22 AM (yBF/9)

1187 no clue, just kinda had it it dumped into my lap about an hour ago
Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 03:20 AM (tw6Ar)


Sweet. Can you post it to the blog and then take it back down again (or reschedule it)? I see people do that.

Don't do that if you're not sure what all the buttons are for.

Can you go on the IRC channel? #AOSHQ on freenode?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:22 AM (bxiXv)

1188 Okay its Armistice Day.

In Flanders Fields

In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie, In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields.

Posted by: mpfs at November 11, 2012 03:22 AM (Mkhiu)

1189 Don: Hey, Napoleon. What did you do last summer again?
Napoleon Dynamite: I told you! I spent it with my uncle in Alaska hunting wolverines!
Don: Did you shoot any?
Napoleon Dynamite: Yes, like 50 of 'em! They kept trying to attack my cousins, what the heck would you do in a situation like that?
Don: What kind of gun did you use?
Napoleon Dynamite: A freakin' 12-gauge, what do you think?

Posted by: Keena at November 11, 2012 03:22 AM (FUo3j)

1190 Also can at least validate the HTML to make sure no failures / bombs:

http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input+with_options

Choose direct input

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:25 AM (bxiXv)

1191 I want those lemons! I want that!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 11, 2012 03:27 AM (DBH1h)

1192 Thanks. Can't remember exactly which type I used. I
can remember I couldn't hit shit with it, though. Mind you I chalked it
up to me rather than the rifle. Fascinating piece, though.



Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 03:22 AM (yBF/9)


Probably a T38 if it was 6.5 (the T99 was a 7.7). I can't hit shit with mine either, me not the rifle, but it's still a fun little gun.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:27 AM (yh0zB)

1193 God Bless all you Veterans. Sleep tight, we shall, because of the service you have given, the years of your lives that you have donated to us. Thank you all.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 11, 2012 03:29 AM (DBH1h)

1194 An argument can be made that America is chocked full of racists. But not white racists. Based on voting patterns, the white vote was the weakest bloc. No discipline at all. Blacks voted 90% together. Hispanics Asians and Jews came in around 70%. Based on voting pattens, whites are the least likely to mobilize racial power electorally. Whites have not banded together against the black man. Whites take a point of pride on that, too. Many voted for the specific purpose of making a point on that score. Meanwhile, many blacks voted for Obama exclusively on racial lines and they say so. One of the most popular political buttons at the Democrat convention stated, "When you go black, there's no going back," conflating eroticism with racially based electoral activity. Over in the white world, hey, we can barely dance. Okay, we can't dance at all. How we gonna now about all that racial libido?

Posted by: Cowboy at November 11, 2012 03:30 AM (WcgMM)

1195 Interesting note, the T30 Arisaka carbine is dimensionally almost exact to the Marlin Model 60 .22LR.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:30 AM (yh0zB)

1196 God Bless all you Veterans. Sleep tight, we shall,
because of the service you have given, the years of your lives that you
have donated to us. Thank you all.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 11, 2012 03:29 AM (DBH1h)


The service was small and the honor was mine.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:31 AM (yh0zB)

1197 The service was small and the honor was mine.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 03:31 AM (yh0zB)

Every man's a Tiger! Rah!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 11, 2012 03:34 AM (DBH1h)

1198 it was an easy nation to want to defend, and I would have done far more had I been able or she ever called.

I'm gonna go think.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 03:38 AM (LRFds)

1199 >> The question I face: it may be the rational thing to do, but is it the
moral thing to do? You know I'm having trouble making up my mind if I'm
asking all of you.

Captain, that was option number 6 on my poll (Cloward-Piven the system) and it got quite a few votes (9%). I advised my ex-wife to get on EBT when she couldn't make ends meet.

Besides, did you see that they delayed the release of the EBT enrollment number 9 days, until after the election? And that the enrollment jumped greatly, by 400k+, to a new record 47.1 million?

The rules of what is moral has changed, it seems to me, and the change has come from what the Dems are willing to do to perpetuate their power.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 03:39 AM (ccXZP)

1200 I blame Grover Cleveland.

Posted by: Bush stole my teddybear at November 11, 2012 03:39 AM (Kflw4)

1201 Posted by: mpfs at November 11, 2012 03:22 AM (Mkhiu)


Thank you, Colonel John McCrae.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mT7o-7w4cw

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 03:40 AM (RJVJw)

1202 Someone needs to do the Colonel Steve Jessupspeech. The whole cocktail parties and wanting him on that wall one. Except for those morons who live deep in Texas, most of us live near at least 30,000 socialists who would love nothing more than to kill us and loot us for their filthy 47% lifestyle.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at November 11, 2012 03:42 AM (d7H2D)

1203 Voter Fraud is now simply GOTV.

Get Out the VOte at 99+Eleventy Percent.

Fundamentally Transformed

You Betcha.

Are we Fucked?

In the Ass like Ambassador Stevens.

Looks like Todd Aiken's rape sperm was no match for Claire McFatAsskill's vagina super powers, but the GOP sure got raped by him legitimately while Richard Mourdock went in at the last minute for sloppy seconds.

If i ever meet Todd Aiken's on the street i am going to jump on his face and take a shit while screaming What does your god tell you to do now mother fucker!

We got beaten and there is no coming back from this one.

Its over. The electorate has fundamentally change...obamy phone woman is your typical voter.

America aint coming back from this one.

Amnesty is goign to seal the deal. Not that they werent already voting, cause we know that they were.

I would say REVOLUTION! but buy the time we got it started there would be nothing left worth saving anyway.

So fuck it. I was one of the lucky ones. I grew up in a free and vibrant country.

Its gone now.

No point crying over the corpse.

LET THE MOTHER FUCKER BURN!

Let them have every left wing piece of legislative crap they want

If the people complain tell them, well you sat home and didnt vote so this is the consequence.

Require every american to be in a gay marriage, teach homosexuality in preschool including positions for best anal penetration, make abortion on demand starting at age 12 without parental consent available to all, legalize every drug out there, ban oil and gas and make everyone ride a bike made out of recycled cardboard and water bottles, eliminate all new housing development and tear down the suburbs so the spotted owls can watch us in our new inner city communes. Fuck, eliminate term limits and let Obama be president for life!

I CAN'T WAIT FOR MY CHOCOLATE RATIONS!

Fuck the Media.



Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 11, 2012 03:46 AM (ovpNn)

1204 MFM Delenda Est.

Find out who is willing to go after vote fraud and support them. I am trying with True the Vote but they seem kind of half-assed right now. More interested in procedure than nailing asses to the wall.

I don't know why everyone is such an effing priss about that one, the left has used it to corner the market in major cities for decades and the GOP and RNC treat it like they farted during a speech. Tee-hee, let's move on.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:51 AM (bxiXv)

1205 Conversation:

"Why is the vote count down so much across the board, I thought enthusiasm was up?"

"They haven't counted all the provisional and absentee ballots yet. There's like 10 million."

"Oh. Why is the vote count down so much across the board, I thought enthusiasm was up?"

"I just told you they're not all counted yet."

"Oh. Why is the vote count down so much across the board, I thought enthusiasm was up?"

"Why are you such a gormless drone?"

"Whaaaaat?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 03:54 AM (bxiXv)

1206 Cowboy, re the racial solidarity thing. Yes, as a bloc whites voted with the most diversity nationwide but it depends on where you look.

In MS in 2008 and 2012, whites voted ~90% each time for the Republican. It explains why, in the highest black population percent State in the union (38%), there were no ads here. Romney won here, 55% - 44%.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 03:57 AM (ccXZP)

1207 i'm so fucking retarded

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 04:01 AM (tw6Ar)

1208 The M96 is without a doubt the most innately accurate battle rifle I have ever shot.The 6.5 swede is a pencil flat ballistic envelope.Can't praise it enough.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 03:21 AM

Are they hard to get?

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 04:01 AM (yBF/9)

1209 If the people complain tell them, well you sat home and didn't vote so this is the consequence.

I'm liking this. Fuck trying to be the adult with adults. The kids just sit and keep crying for more free gruel. Shame them.

Right on fucking TV. Do it. Stop trying to finesse voters with bullshit. Tell them straight up:

"You're lack of vote tells me that you agree with the Socialist agenda. Therefore in the interest of you, the constituent; I must there for acquiesce and vote for every piece of extortionist legislation that Dear Leader wishes to propose. After all, you want this, correct?"

Stop mincing words. Shame these fuckers.


Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 11, 2012 04:01 AM (H3v1i)

1210 >>
i'm so fucking retarded

Hey, you haven't blown up the blog yet, so don't be so hard on yourself.

Let us handle that.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 04:02 AM (ccXZP)

1211 i'm so fucking retarded

Hey, you haven't blown up the blog yet, so don't be so hard on yourself.

Let us handle that.


Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 04:02 AM (ccXZP)

with 11 videos, it's will meltdown

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 04:03 AM (tw6Ar)

1212 but then again, melting down the blog will give us that old time feeling

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 04:04 AM (tw6Ar)

1213 i'm so fucking retarded

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 04:01 AM

Well, you're still one up on Barry.

Posted by: otho at November 11, 2012 04:07 AM (yBF/9)

1214 Posted by: 98ZJUSMC

Ahh, you and jeremiah are 2 more votes for Let It Burn. I picked that one, myself.

http://poll.pollcode.com/9kph4q

Nearly 4500 votes overall in a day from the Horde, on a slow Saturday am posting.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 04:09 AM (ccXZP)

1215 Dude, be sure to at least put the videos below the fold. Or yes, you will crash the blog.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 04:11 AM (ccXZP)

1216 Over on Drudge, I read the link to the Rex Reed discussion of Lincoln. The comments there have libs and RINOs attacking the Tea Party, as well as arguments about which party actually defends Civil Rights. Surprisingly, the RINOs are holding their own against the Dems.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at November 11, 2012 04:12 AM (d7H2D)

1217 Dude, be sure to at least put the videos below the fold. Or yes, you will crash the blog.


Posted by: GnuBreed at November 11, 2012 04:11 AM (ccXZP)

oh I'm not that cold blooded, it's below the fold

Posted by: The Dude at November 11, 2012 04:13 AM (tw6Ar)

1218 @ 1169, I'm not much into reloading yet, but really have to go there.

About half of my stuff is Berdan primed. I hear they are more arduous to reload, with a difficulty in obtaining the proper primers.

I got lazy, bought 20 thousand rounds and thought I was OK. In light of recent elections, I am rethinking that now.

I have homes overseas, but no guns stashed overseas. I need to get some guns here overseas.

A smart fox always has 2 or more dens.



Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 04:18 AM (L2nsu)

1219 Merovign, my hero

Posted by: Princess Peach at November 11, 2012 04:22 AM (tw6Ar)

1220 So, in answer to the "What shotgun should I buy?" I give you...


The Maverick 88 by Mossberg.


http://www.maverickarms.com/pages/88security.htm


It's a Mossy 500 made with some outsourced parts so it will retail for less than 300 bucks, you can get a nice used one for less than 2, and it's still a Mossberg so the Mossy barrels and whatnot will fit. This is the first shotgun you should buy if you think you might need one but don't want to part with lots of cash.


The good thing is you can buy the 8 shot Security 88 and then get a 28" vented barrel with interchangeable chokes to make it a good hunting/skeet shooting gun and use the standard 20" barrel for home defense. The long barrel will set you back about 150 more bucks.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 04:27 AM (yh0zB)

1221 My Mav 88 has been a delight

Posted by: DAve at November 11, 2012 04:28 AM (XDC0v)

1222 oh I'm not that cold blooded

Heh.

♫ not so coldly-charted
It's really just a question of your honesty
Yeah, your honesty ♪

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juv5Ifs2fFY#t=2m00s

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 04:32 AM (RJVJw)

1223 2m00s[/]i

While I'm at it, "Two Moos" would be a terrible name for a band.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 04:37 AM (RJVJw)

1224 Uh oh.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 04:37 AM (RJVJw)

1225 Phew.

/cleverly-somehow avoids time in the barrel

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 11, 2012 04:38 AM (RJVJw)

1226 PSA: If you are using the Lee Auto-Prime to reload Japanese 6.5x50 don't bother getting the shell holder listed for the 6.5 Japanese (#10). Get the one for .45ACP (#2).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 04:40 AM (yh0zB)

1227 About half of my stuff is Berdan primed. I hear they are more arduous to reload, with a difficulty in obtaining the proper primers.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 11, 2012 04:18 AM (L2nsu)


As in "don't bother." There's a reason why they call it non-reloadable.

Special tools, more manual process, harder to clean, harder to get primers.

Basically there are two flare holes and they're not centered. You have to manually locate the decapper, which has smaller pins which will break, before you remove the old primer.

It is done, but only by crazy people.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 04:43 AM (bxiXv)

1228 Atlatls are kind of cool.

Mark Levin said anyone can be elected speaker of the House--it doesn't have to be a Congressperson. Opens interesting options though Ryan would be great.

Something to do to prepare for the coming fiscal collapse and also take back the schools: plan a school district budget with no federal money. Maybe also a municipal budget for your town.

Posted by: Emily at November 11, 2012 04:43 AM (FicFv)

1229
@1204

I would like to hear more about how one can pursue the voter fraud business. Why the hell does everybody lie down and just take this stuff?

In the Senate, my admittedly outdated probabilities on the Senate says that the odds of losing two or more seats was about 1/400. I totally smell a rat. There are also a lot of stories about FL, where they said today that Romney lost by only 74,000, OH where it might nhave made a difference, and PA. We heard stories of long lines and record early voting, but fewer votes. WTF?

Posted by: Optimizer at November 11, 2012 04:45 AM (Mxt9o)

1230 It is done, but only by crazy people.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 04:43 AM (bxiXv)


Yep. You can get rounds cheaper than you can buy brass, if you get commercial rounds instead of milsurp you get reloadable brass to go with it (I'm assuming this is 7.62x54R).

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 04:56 AM (yh0zB)

1231 Well folks, almost 5 AM here, time for me to retire for the evening. Back to work tonight, so I'll see you folks again on Thursday.

Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 11, 2012 04:57 AM (yh0zB)

1232 I would like to hear more about how one can pursue the voter fraud business. Why the hell does everybody lie down and just take this stuff?

Posted by: Optimizer at November 11, 2012 04:45 AM (Mxt9o)


Because fucking potato.

There are a ton of excuses, they cycle through them like a random quote file.

It can't be that bad, they'll riot, how are ya gonna prove it, they run the DOJ and cities, my leg hurts, I'm only four years old, etc.

My favorite is "no way they could cheat 3 million" and I post back they only need to flip 175k and the next day it's "you;re crazy you think they could cheat 3 million."

I think everyone is just slowly going mad.

I've posted lists of steps to do, but I can't even afford a website now. I can send letters, that's about it. I poked True The Vote but they just give off that "rock the boat a little but not a lot" feel, I don't think they have much money either.

I don't know, maybe they hate confrontation. It's no fun.

But if the people effing with the vote don't get stopped, we WILL lose our country, no maybes. If this election wasn't thrown, the next one will be.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 05:03 AM (bxiXv)

1233 Also, zakn is so fired.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 05:04 AM (bxiXv)

1234 Optimizer I'm with you on going after the voter fraud. Do the states have to investigate fraud reports before they certify the election or something? There are a lot of strange statistics about this election and eyewitness accounts of fraud, most of them in articles by bloggers it seems.

Posted by: Emily at November 11, 2012 05:06 AM (FicFv)

1235 While I have no doubt at at all that those Philly wards ginned up some numbers for Obama, the fact is that Obama got 50,000 less votes in the city than he did in 2008.. His margin of of victory in PA was about 280,000. Florida and Ohio are much closer.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 11, 2012 05:07 AM (yJYwC)

1236 If Dems can get away with felonies, they have to spot us the same amount. I'm thinking burglaries.

Seriously, vote fraud is a felony and in my opinion treasonous (lower-case t, okay?). If we are not vigorously pursuing them we have a huge goddamned problem, in terms of "governments that don't collapse from fraud and corruption."

"Culture of corruption," anyone? Why the Hell should I follow the law if we shrug at these crimes?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 05:10 AM (bxiXv)

1237 if you are interested in the voter fraud that happened to Mitt Romney go here: http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
and on and on it goes its mind boggling what happened.

couple of examples: Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout!
Crooked Politics: Obama Lost in Every State With Photo ID Law
Philly Polling Stations Where GOP Inspectors Were Kicked Out Had 90% Voter Turnout, 99% Voted For Obama…
Photo of Ethiopians brought to Ohio voting stations by busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket
Pundit Press: What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote
Why the Polls are Wrong: Electorate is R+6
Vote fraud alert: One out of five registered Ohio voters is bogus
52 Democrats arrested for VOTER FRAUD so far
Vote Fraud Expert: Romney Votes Not Counted in Key States

Posted by: mrks at November 11, 2012 05:21 AM (15/2r)

1238 whats happening to Ace right now:

there are many Obama paid obama bloggers/webmeisters out there spinning on all the blogs.

Suddenly after the election we have all these Mitt Romney sympathizers firing off hundreds of suggestions flooding the conservative blogs.

We have seen the technological sophistication of Obama’s Web centers. It would be very easy for each Obama web meister to have multiple IDs and literally flood the Internet with divisive information to confuse and split up the conservative blogs.

ace of spades is highly rates and there were suddenly hundreds of commentors creating such a shitstorm comment wise that my attemps to get people to look at voter fraud were drowned as the spinmeisters created a literal data storm.

Ace needs to check for IPs for multiple commentor names or track where the ips are originating from to make sure that a obana data center is not in operation posting here on His44.
chech who is and see where they are originating from.
if we could find out where the datacenters are located we ought to be able to filter them out.

Posted by: mrks at November 11, 2012 05:23 AM (15/2r)

1239 we lost the cultural battle for the electorate long ago, and have made little noticeable improvement on that front since 1984.

Actually, we lost it in the '60s when the Warren Court adopted one-man-one-vote as a Constitutional principle, Reynolds v. Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964). It's not - and was expressly rejected during the original Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia.

No private enterprise in the world so grossly mis-allocates responsibility for its management.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy,

We beat the odds once with Reagan, but he is the only true conservative we have elected since 1964.

Posted by: A One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at November 11, 2012 05:23 AM (eMtQ2)

1240 I'm in the market for a shotgun. Recommendations on gun and ammo? Home defense is primary objective.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 10, 2012 10:05 PM (GEICT)

Have a look at the Kel Tec KSG

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/

It's got two magazine tubes so you can fill one with birdshot and one with buckshot or one with buckshot and one with slugs. Any way it carrys 12 shells in the two tubes and you have a lever that lets you select which tube you want to load from. It is compact and cool looking. It is not legal for hunting in any state I know of but you said you want it for home defense.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 11, 2012 05:30 AM (dGtaD)

1241 And the 26th Amendment made things worse.

Posted by: epobirs at November 11, 2012 05:33 AM (kcfmt)

1242 Find out who is willing to go after vote fraud and support them. I am trying with True the Vote but they seem kind of half-assed right now. More interested in procedure than nailing asses to the wall.

Moochers and government workers get paid to screw us to the wall while we have to work for a living. They have nothing else to do 24/7 but make sure their gravy train keeps running.

Posted by: madamex at November 11, 2012 05:36 AM (1zsKV)

1243 1236, I agree. This Philly thing really bugs me because it's so fucking blatant, it was actually reported (on election day) in the local press, and nothing. ever. happens. No outrage at all, the one state rep that questioned the results was shouted down as a racist. When I bring it up to my Dem family, they shrug it off as part of life in the big city, they're sure that the "hicks" are out there manufacturing GOP votes.

The PA Attorney General is now a lame duck, to be replaced by a Dem. What will she lose if she goes on a kamikaze mission to bring some attention to this? Alas, the story will soon become a meme and then an unsubstantiated right-wing fantasy, and it will all happen again next time.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 11, 2012 05:36 AM (yJYwC)

1244 Apparently punishing vote fraud is only popular in the middle of the night!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 05:48 AM (bxiXv)

1245 "What to do in a world where you wake up fundamentally boned? Where taxes
are going to rise, incomes fall, inflation skyrocket, and Obama's mug
soon to grace the face of the Hundred-thousand dollar bill, which, along
with a shiny Biden nickel will buy you a steaming cup of Joe at
Starbucks...

...Not me. I don't see a path back right now."


Sad thing was, things were really looking up for me and my wife prior to Tuesday. We're hitting it great at the gym (never had done so before in my life), my computer classes at the local J/Cs are going well and I'm on track to accomplish my resume enhancements there, and we've managed, through family assistance with our living situation, to refinance our car and move some of our credit card debt to better interest rates. We've also saved almost a cool $2k up in a "baby account".....because we want to have a baby next year.

I was optimistic prior to Sandy that Romney would win, and our fortunes would improve even more (maybe I would stand any chance at all of getting the better-paying job in a change of scenery that we so desperately need me to have).

....

And now it seems like the sky is falling, a notion I can't refute.

I've resolved to survive, ignore, and defy the Feds as much as humanly possible....

But, question for anyone: If the thesis is that we're irrevocably boned, hard tyranny is right around the corner, and all for conservatism is forever lost...

Then why go on living? What's the point?

Just a thought. Please nobody freak out, I've personally already had my mental crash two years ago. Don't got time nor the heart to hit the final "quit game" button. My father and wife have too much riding on my well-being.

But I want to know how I should continue living in such a doomed world (and why this is better than giving up, aside from the concern for others I've already raised). Maybe I'll understand better my personal path forward if I can hear it from someone else (here in CA, btw, where we just handed the Dems a super-majority).

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 11, 2012 05:50 AM (MRcfR)

1246 This crap also tells me that voter ID, at least in Philly, is pretty
much worthless. No, the law wasn't in effect, but how would the law stop
shenanigans like the Philly Dems pulled, anyway? They literally threw
the GOP poll watchers out of the stations. Again, nothing happened. A
judge told the Dems to let them back in, 90 minutes later. Big whoop.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 11, 2012 05:53 AM (yJYwC)

1247 Yeah, Merovign, because only we crackpot conspiracy theorists would be posting at this hour.....

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 11, 2012 05:53 AM (yJYwC)

1248 (here in CA, btw, where we just handed the Dems a super-majority).
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 11, 2012 05:50 AM (MRcfR)


Well, I am just to personally stubborn to even conceive of quitting, at least in that sense.

Consider that every single person in history was necessary, in whatever small a way, for us to be where we are now. The same will be true a hundred years from now.

You may not know what effect you had, ever.

Also, hard tyranny is virtually impossible here on short notice, but soft tyranny is already pouring down the road.

Yeah, California amazes by its capacity to find more "boned" where it seemed to be full up.

Moving may not be possible now (sure isn't for me), but put it on your to-do list. I would say ND for jobs, but it looks like Obama has his eye on them. Texas is going to exceed equilibrium any minute.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 05:59 AM (bxiXv)

1249 They literally threw
the GOP poll watchers out of the stations. Again, nothing happened. A
judge told the Dems to let them back in, 90 minutes later. Big whoop.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 11, 2012 05:53 AM (yJYwC)


Why, there couldn't be coordinated mass vote fraud, that's just crazy talk.

(pounds head with giant toy hammer)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 06:01 AM (bxiXv)

1250 But, question for anyone: If the thesis is that we're irrevocably boned, hard tyranny is right around the corner, and all for conservatism is forever lost...

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 11, 2012 05:50 AM (MRcfR)


That reminds me of a joke I saw the other day.

I got on the subway across from a beautiful Thai girl. I said to myself, "don't get an erection, don't get an erection, don't get an erection!"

But she did.

Oh, you said a hard *tyranny*! My bad.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 06:04 AM (bxiXv)

1251 Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 11, 2012 05:50 AM (MRcfR)

One reason, who would ever want to be a souless, maggot like Obamaphone creature? You are not her.

Posted by: madamex at November 11, 2012 06:08 AM (1zsKV)

1252 One last time for tonight: I don't care if they didn't throw the election, the felons who committed vote fraud should be found out, tried, jailed if possible and made to sing like canaries.

Because, you see, a lot of people won't trust or have allegiance to a corrupt system, and that number is growing.

And when it gets too big, fucking post-revolutionary France.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 11, 2012 06:12 AM (bxiXv)

1253 It is quite obvious what the next dominant industry is going to be.


Brawndo! it has electrolytes.

Posted by: vikingsfan at November 11, 2012 06:20 AM (crMa0)

1254 You arent going to stop voter fraud as long as partisans control the voting process.

Obama and his shitfuckassfart takers stole the election.

and until you bitches grow enough balls to contest instead of conceding for the good of the country...you are fucked.

Enjoy Socialism...which definately has an upside.

In 10-20 years when we really really completely blow up the economy to the point that everything collapses, these mother fucking takers are all going to fucking starve to death in droves and frankly i look forward to that day.

Let the entire mother fucking thing burn down.

If we make it that long that is.

I have a very bad feeling that Obama is intent on letting Iran get the bomb...which in his ignorant world view = stable iran that understands with awesome power comes awesome responsiblity....fucking spiderman 2 foriegn policy.

In reality, iran is going to make bomb after bomb and mysteriously allow it to fall in the hands of a few who will nuke israel and nyc cause you know our port authority is so marvelous...and then when world war 3: Islamic Nuke boogaloo starts and ends, all the fucking mother fucking god damn fucking mother fucking liberals will be the first to cry oh noes...but happily, muslim jihadists really love gays and lesbians and women who talk alot and wear short skirts and people who do drugs and dance and listen to music and dont believe in god and will welcome them to the stoning pits and beheading bars with open arms.

By the end of the war, there wont be much left worth saving anyway.

So fuck it! Get your mother fucking free phone and ebt card and get on disability cause you cant find a job and live off the government teet as long as you can you lazy good for nothings jerry springer watching oprah loving fucks. Your doom is coming and you voted for it.

Frankly, if it wasnt so sad, it would be fucking hilarious.

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 11, 2012 06:26 AM (ovpNn)

1255 If the dude's playing golf while elderly people have to walk 6 miles to find half a cinnamon roll in a dumpster, how hard could it be to find someone to roll over on him on Benghazi?

He's a total dick.

Posted by: Kindle Opus Anarcus at November 11, 2012 06:41 AM (v6Iz7)

Posted by: at November 11, 2012 06:49 AM (HNn1q)

1257 Was just looking at the fraud link:

http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com

I think we have a big, big problem on our hands.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 11, 2012 06:53 AM (uhAkr)

1258
@1237

I'm checking that site out. ORCA explained a lot, but still...

Posted by: Optimizer at November 11, 2012 07:11 AM (Mxt9o)

1259 (here in CA, btw, where we just handed the Dems a super-majority).


Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 11, 2012 05:50 AM


Same thing here in MA. Lieawatha Warren defeated Scott Brown -- who would have been a Democrat in any state where people actually use their brains -- while Joe Kennedy III (who, like Choom Boy, has no experience doing anything) crushed his opponent. My local district reelected a man with, to be excessively polite, extreme ethical issues and a long history of doing fuck-all in Congress.

We also passed every piece-of-shit proposition on the ballot.

From what I hear, New Hampshire also went all-out Democrat.

The power of Free Shit, race and fraud is not to be denied, at least until we have a chance (if we're lucky) to rebuild civilization and turn what is fast becoming Zimbabwe back into the United States.

Reading the news has become even more depressing, if that's possible. We know what the MFM aren't telling us, which makes the tiny scraps of fact they allow out far worse.

Who would ever have thought the reelection of LBJ or Bubba Clinton would come to seem like the Good Old Days?

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 11, 2012 07:17 AM (yKUrR)

1260 I love how Insty has noted that Doctors Without Borders is providing medical aid in New York after Sandy.
Or as Insty put it, Bush took doctors to the third world, Barky brings the third world to us.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 11, 2012 07:21 AM (BPyqV)

1261 I forgot....
Good Morning to all my imaginary friends in a box.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 11, 2012 07:23 AM (BPyqV)

1262 Let it burn*


* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnebZnysmI

Posted by: Deep Purple at November 11, 2012 07:24 AM (HNn1q)

1263 Here's another "fun" link to brighten your morning!

Apparently, there won't even be "talks" about the Iran nuke situation. I sense the hand of Choom Boy pulling the backstage levers for his Muzzie pals....

http://usat.ly/RMpHRw

Someday, God willing, we'll all be posting links of kittehs and boobehs. Teh DOOOOM has stopped being even remotely amusing.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 11, 2012 07:28 AM (yKUrR)

1264 I've read that if only married people voted, Romney would have won in a landslide. Assuming that is true and seeing that most laws related to marriage are passed at the state level, what can be done to encourage marriage?

One possibility is to reduce the risk of paternity fraud. If a couple divorces, no child care will be awarded until there is a DNA test to ascertain that the divorced man is the father. I admit that this will only work to keep faithless whores in marriages rather than divorcing and cashing in on some poor sucker but it serves the more important function of reducing the risk that a man contemplating marriage will find himself in the position of cuckold cash cow. Regardless of how often this happens, it is perceived as a significant impediment by many men. It is also perceived as a gross injustice by most of the population.

There are enough things to worry about before getting married. Apparently a great many men are deciding that the risk is not worth the reward any more. Something that reduces the risk by some level might lead to a greater number of men finding the risk/reward ratio more balanced. Women who would like to marry and do not plan on cheating on their
spouse would have an incentive to favor such legislation for the self
benefit reason that it improves their chances.

If a state also requires DNA confirmation before enforcing child care payments awarded in other states, the effect could be made greater.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at November 11, 2012 07:31 AM (dGtaD)

1265 Barky brings the third world to us.


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 11, 2012 07:21 AM


Does anyone else find it strange that even the brain-dead Choom Boy voters and the MFM don't seem to notice that the government response to Sandy make Dubya's Katrina efforts look like a model of perfection?

Now that the election is over and the desired result was achieved, the "if it bleeds, it leads" theory of journalism mans they ought to be talking about some of the misery left in the storm's wake.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 11, 2012 07:32 AM (yKUrR)

1266 On Wednesday, Dems (quietly) began thinking about the next election. Contrary to all the naysayers (and I am one, on and off), the Democrat Party is NOT in good shape with Obama as leader. They "only" got about 88% of their 2008 vote. The GOP got about 97% of it's 2008 vote. For a reelected POTUS, Obama should have gotten a higher percentage than 2008, if people like what he is doing. They like him less than 2008. Wait till 2016 when they like him even less. The key of course is for us to pick winner this time, and hopefully before the election Neither party is in good shape...

Posted by: Baldy at November 11, 2012 07:37 AM (opS9C)

1267 #1264 It is going to be very hard to encourage marriage until there is a shift in the culture. 18th Century England was very licentious, with high rates of illegitimacy, brothels, gin mills, etc.

The Great Awakening and Methodism called people back to church and to a more moral lifestyle, which included marriage. When Victoria came to the throne, she set a model for the people with her family, which percolated through 19th century Britain, particularly the middle class.

Today, the models we have are mostly Hollywood, with people either marrying and divorcing over and over, or never marrying at all. Young men see marriage as a trap, young women think that living together without marriage is acceptable, and there you have it.

A religious revival is about the only way things will change, and those cannot be planned.

Posted by: Miss Marple at November 11, 2012 07:45 AM (GoIUi)

1268 I have been thinking that this cycle and the next the Rs need to try to directly link the economic fail to D policies, expand the criticism to the D platform as FUCKING UNSUSTAINABLE, I live in idiot MA and I think there may be something to people not having the crap scared out of them enough. Unfortunately there is plenty of that on deck now. I for one won't go down without a fight, and will be a lot more vocal to everyone asking for my money why they won't get it. Politely. Inside my head I am screaming FU.

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 11, 2012 07:46 AM (OETVg)

1269 "Does anyone else find it strange that even the brain-dead Choom Boy voters and the MFM don't seem to notice that the government response to Sandy make Dubya's Katrina efforts look like a model of perfection?"<br>
<br>
<br/>
I find it sad that I'm not shocked by it.

Posted by: puddleglum at November 11, 2012 07:48 AM (tMrfs)

1270 Back home to vote (and lose the country). Told the team O'seas that either Romney won or I get a new AR. When 1130AM add for Rocco's gun show comes on. Friday had its blessing, 4 clips and 850 rounds. Romney is an extremely honorable guy and nice too. Too bad about the nice guy part, need a m'f'ker.

Posted by: ExPat Patriot at November 11, 2012 07:49 AM (frDtf)

1271 IDF fires warning shot into Syria after shell hits Golan

Posted by: Baldy at November 11, 2012 07:49 AM (opS9C)

1272 Contrary to all the naysayers (and I am one, on and
off), the Democrat Party is NOT in good shape with Obama as leader....


Posted by: Baldy at November 11, 2012 07:37 AM


Oh please, dude.

That's like saying the Soviet Communists were "not in good shape" in 1917 when they took over Russia. Or, for that matter, that the National Socialist Party "wasn't in good shape" when You-Know-Who got his people into the German government in 1932.

Do you think everything was looking down for Kim Il Sung in North Korea of Fidel in Cuba?

Putting your party's hands firmly on the levers of money, power and media gives you a small advantage in government, in case you hadn't noticed. Thanks to the Dumbing of America, you don't even face the downside of having to perform, as is painfully evident today.

Between the mindlessness of his own party and the eunuchs' control of ours, Choom Boy is perilously close to establishing a Haiti-style President-for-Life scenario.

I call that lots of things, but I don't call that a problem for him.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 11, 2012 07:50 AM (yKUrR)

1273 MrScribbler

The MSM has dropped back into the "Shiny object vs Squirrel" mode of operation,
American citizens starving and freezing in NYC
SoS is too busy to testify about Benghazi
Ambassador is too dead to testify about Benghazi
CIa Director too resigned to testify about Benghazi
More and more evidence of American citizens having their Presidential vote disenfranchised.
Food stamp report being delayed beyond the election to prevent bad news about record food stamp usage.
Our drone fired upon in international airspace not being reported to the American people till after the election.

"40 acres and a mule" has now become "40 minutes and a phone"

And the only thing the MSM wants to tell me is that Justine Beiber and Salina Gomez are no linger an item.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 11, 2012 07:52 AM (BPyqV)

1274 linger = longer
*facepalm*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 11, 2012 07:54 AM (BPyqV)

1275 "In reality, iran is going to make bomb after bomb and mysteriously allow it to fall in the hands of a few who will nuke israel and nyc "

What is China doing while Iran is handing out nukes to all and sundry? They have an Islamic terrorism problem of their own -- which they tend to deal with rather...harshly.

Posted by: WarrenMuhfugginHarding at November 11, 2012 07:56 AM (pkkxZ)

1276 "1274
linger = longer
*facepalm*"

That's alright, linger reminds me of the chick from The Cranberries. I seen her on something the other day, she aged well, still smoke'n.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 11, 2012 08:02 AM (GZitp)

1277 Other details emerged Saturday indicating that the Petraeus allegations became a secret election-night drama for the Obama administration. That evening, the Justice Department informed the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., that their investigation had unearthed compromising information about the CIA director, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

Clapper then spoke with Petraeus and urged him to resign, notifying the White House the next day. That sequence has become a source of controversy, raising questions among some members of Congress about why key intelligence committees were not notified earlier and why the FBI waited before informing the administration about a probe that had stumbled onto embarrassing details about the CIA chief.

The law enforcement officials did not provide an exact timeline for the investigation, but they said the inquiry started several months ago. They said investigators thought they were dealing with a routine harassment case until some communications were traced to a private e-mail account belonging to Petraeus.

The sexually explicit nature of the communications caused investigators to suspect that someone had broken into Petraeus’s e-mail account, leading to concerns about potential national security breaches, according to the officials. As the investigation proceeded and more evidence emerged, including Broadwell’s role, FBI investigators realized they had uncovered an affair between Petraeus and Broadwell, the officials said.

The e-mails from Broadwell indicated that she thought the other woman was becoming involved with Petraeus, according to the officials. They said the e-mails were “threatening and harassing” but not specific enough to warrant criminal charges.

One of the officials said that the recipient of the e-mails complained to Petraeus about them and that the FBI later obtained e-mails between Petraeus and Broadwell in which they discussed the harassment.

The investigators first interviewed Petraeus about two weeks ago, the officials said. They reviewed the evidence with him but did not suggest that he should resign or that he would be charged with a crime, according to the officials.

One of the officials said Justice Department officials were unclear on what steps to take after they concluded that there would be no charges against the CIA director or Broadwell and that there had been no breach of national security.

“What was our responsibility?” said one of the officials. “We were in an area where we’d never been before.”

The notification finally came Tuesday evening, while polls were still open across the country in an election that would return President Obama to office for four more years.

“Director Clapper learned of the situation from the FBI on Tuesday evening around 5 p.m.,” a senior U.S. intelligence official said. “In subsequent conversations with Director Petraeus, Director Clapper advised Director Petraeus to resign.”

from Wa Po


so, it was the FBI's idea to with hold the info from POTUS that they had for months about the CIA Director? And hold it for after the election? Yet yesterday two FBI personnel wee said to be outraged that the administration decided to keep Petraeus in place for weeks. Somebody is lying about timelines again

Posted by: Thunderb at November 11, 2012 08:02 AM (Dnbau)

1278 1272 Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 11, 2012 07:50 AM (yKUrR) ********** Dictator for life? Perhaps. It probably isn't a good idea to be posting here then.

Posted by: Baldy at November 11, 2012 08:10 AM (opS9C)

1279 Thunderb

Have you noticed yet that if we believe the MSM reports, Barky is the least informed President in modern history.

He seems to live behind a shield of plausible deniability.

Or as I have taken to calling it in his case,,,
Deniable Probability.
There's only so much smoke you can blow up my ass before I start to think someone's lying.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 11, 2012 08:10 AM (BPyqV)

1280 Posted by: ExPat Patriot at November 11, 2012 07:49 AM (frDtf)

Where did you expatriate to? Would you recommend it to someone else?

Posted by: cool breeze at November 11, 2012 08:15 AM (A+/8k)

1281 I wonder if we need to "get local". Maybe better effort by down ticket Reps to involve their local slackers using social media and meet ups would help these thing. Maybe the big party could make templates and apps that enable local organization and are scalable to national races.

Around here most localities have a monthly street fest shindig. Why not have a booth set up where surveys can be taken and positions passed out. Make the party seem more accessible. If you feel enfranchised you may feel more prone to vote. Ehh, but it will never happen. Just continue on with the suck, I'm gonna buy a big as sailboat and move to Honduras....

Posted by: TheGarbone- The Rubio 2016 Guy at November 11, 2012 08:17 AM (cEDzL)

1282 Just because they "own" the economy does not mean they get to participate in it. Locally, if you live in a blue state, only buy from individuals and companies that believe in what you believe. Move out of a blue state. List all companies that donated to Obama and boycott them. If you live in a red state, never by something that is based in a blue state. We are still half the nation, let's double our profits and cut theirs in half.

Posted by: John at November 11, 2012 08:44 AM (sl9ms)

1283
We have the ultimate weapon to use against the 'new' Red Dawn aggressors.
They will all be found at
http://www.goldencorral.com/

Posted by: Paul SWOH at November 11, 2012 08:48 AM (x/BtJ)

1284 We need to have an all conservative cable station. Fair and balanced is wearing thin with me!

Posted by: AnnaS at November 11, 2012 08:52 AM (Pm4tN)

1285 So here we are. If the country wants to give Socialism a try, I'm in the general frame of mind to tell our reps to rubber stamp everything, and let the Dems own their Utopia.
Yep! In fact, I am taking it one step further. When a friend posts something against the regime, or Dear Leader, I tell them they must stop watching/listening/reading material not approved by the state. This is the source of all their unhappiness. I tell them that keeping their eyes and ears on the comforting messages of the Ministry of Truth will make them much happier. There are bread and circuses all around if they simply open their eyes. They can begin their re-education immediately by turning on MSNBC.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at November 11, 2012 09:01 AM (JcN7j)

1286 1266 Baldy,

Well the FDR model says that the answer is to make life as painful as possible and make the wayward electorate reach out to them like Julie in the conversion chamber from V.

Since everyone has a hard on for my wife losing her career I figure let it burn and run south to keep the red red.

Let it burn.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 11, 2012 09:04 AM (LRFds)

1287
7"I'm looking for another moniker. Any suggestions? Ohio Dan"
Dan OHI OWE!

Posted by: Lars39 at November 11, 2012 11:16 AM (3hXBH)

1288 160: "Let's have reverse secession - kick all the blue states out - or manufacture a couple of earthquakes - and retake our country!" Posted by: George W Beagle's mom at November 10, 2012 09:54 PM (JwW4z)

I think you're about to get your wish re: earthquakes.

Posted by: Squirrel Does Code! at November 11, 2012 11:34 AM (gslhL)

1289 1160: I just did the pre-screener for welfare in my state. I said I was a non-citizen, unmarried, no job, living with friends, $200 in cash to my name. I qualified for Emergency Food, SNAP (supplemental nutrition... who doesn't need that?), a discount prescriptions card, clothing and diaper banks. If my dog was under 6 years old (she's 7), I could have qualified for WIC (women, Infants and Children nutrition assistance).

But wait! I could just tell them I had an abortion. It says "WIC entitlements up to 6 months after birth or END OF PREGNANCY."

Love the little callout box on the side that says, "Won't people know I'm on assistance? NO! SNAP cards look and work just like a debit card! No one will know, there are no coupons or paperwork to fill out." Isn't that great?

Posted by: Squirrel Does Code! at November 11, 2012 12:02 PM (gslhL)

1290 1ST: To all vets, thanx and a salute. 2ND: Take the Senate in 2014. JM (E-8 Ret.)

Posted by: TinCan at November 11, 2012 01:20 PM (pTUgQ)

1291 I would buy silver bullion. That is an easy way to have an inflation hedge and take your money out of circulation. If you are going to save money why keep it in a bank and allow it to be multiplied?

Boycott all the 80's destroying remakes. Ridicule the young guys at the job. "You drink Sapphire Gin? Were you on a diet?" I used that one last night on a black coworker age 24. Honestly WTF kind of black guy recommends Sapphire Gin?

Posted by: theworldisnotenough at November 12, 2012 12:33 AM (dhlD/)






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