It's Time For Hollywood To Pay Its Fair Share as Part of a Balanced Approach

New tax: Any fee of $1 million or more, the performance for which is substantially completed over the course of six months or less, is hit with a 20% surtax above and beyond normal tax rates. If the work for fee is completed in five months or less, 30%; if the work for fee is completed in four months or less, 40%; if three months or less, 50%.

Reason? If you're making $10 million on a Hollywood shoot that lasts six weeks, that's not fair. Even among millionaires, that's not fair. The usual millionaire must work a full year for that kind of money. But a high paid actor, or athlete, can make that much in a season, and then take the rest of the year off.

That's leisure time the average person doesn't have-- even the average millionaire doesn't have it.

It's time to tax that, indirectly.

Let's take Glenn Reynolds' proposals seriously-- let's start making Hollywood and the Leisure Class pay its fair share.

I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.

Posted by: Ace at 01:46 PM



Comments

1 And let Tom Hanks go first.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 09, 2012 01:47 PM (UOM48)

2 Go for it.

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 01:47 PM (YdQQY)

3 >>I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.


Increase the Liquor Tax?

Rehab Tax?
Excise Tax on Rape?
Increase the Liquor Tax?

Posted by: garrett at November 09, 2012 01:48 PM (MLHfc)

4 You forgot: For The Children(tm).

Posted by: Andy at November 09, 2012 01:48 PM (5Rurq)

5 Whoops. ORCA'd my list.

Posted by: garrett at November 09, 2012 01:48 PM (MLHfc)

6 And I will repeat my tax policy for changes

Write a tax policy that say

(1) Every credit listed on the 1040 credit
list is eliminated and

(2) ALL source of income above $1M are taxed at a
rate of 45%. and

(3) All sources of income from movies and other forms
of entertainment have a 10% surtax above the highest rate the effected
are currently paying

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 01:49 PM (YdQQY)

7 I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.


Raise alcohol taxes?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 09, 2012 01:49 PM (QKKT0)

8 You wanted to destroy the media?

Here you go.

The GOP cannot be blamed for tax increases in the long term. That's the Dems bag, baby.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 01:49 PM (YSkOI)

9 Stop wasting energy trying to be hip and relevant. Let the left cannibalize itself.

New party. Now. Decades of fail, RINO, and squish has wrecked the GOP brand.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 09, 2012 01:49 PM (XrMeG)

10 Tax them to a degree that makes sure their annual income is 30k or less. They wanted taxes raised and to pay their fair share? Thanks! Now become one of us.

Posted by: Heralder at November 09, 2012 01:49 PM (+xmn4)

11 The Tax Code is a democrat weapon. Time we weaponize it too.

Understand Ace I am not suddenly a nut but I have grasped at last finally that my ideals have died strangled by an America in love with pomp and celebrity.

Time to start wrecking their refuges.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (LRFds)

12 Ace,

Raise a couple thousand dollars to get an ad pushing this idea on the air and I will chip in a couple hundred.

Myth: TV advertising is expensive. Its actually quite economical.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (UypUQ)

13 You can't tax gift bags and awards shows! That's not American!

Posted by: Mariska Hagitay at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (/YJYi)

14 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we don't like? I got that right?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (da5Wo)

15 Go after the endowments of the Ivies. Someone noted in the prior thread that Harvard is sitting on a metric fuckton of cash, though, iirc, Harvard's lost something like half of the value of its endowment since it's being run by the people who are currently running our economy.


Tell higher education to either spend the endowments on subsidizing tuition or be hit with a 50% tax rate on all investment income plus a 25% surcharge on the value of the principle. Put up or shut up that you believe your role is to train young minds.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (VtjlW)

16 New tax: Any fee of $1 million or more, which is substantially
completed over the course of three months or less, is hit with a 40%
surtax above and beyond normal tax rates.


The only flaw I see is that the filmmaker controls the schedule, and can make adjustments to avoid the tax.

Posted by: Slublog at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (0nqdj)

17 Retroactive to 1990 for good measure.

If you're going to fuck Hollywood, fuck it in it's eyeballs.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (XkWWK)

18 I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.


The way to do that is exactly what I posted. Make higher taxes on ALL sources of income instead of only "earned income".

and eliminate ALL credits

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (YdQQY)

19 what if 50 million people boycotted Hollyweird ? ok, not 50, but 25 million ?

Posted by: runner at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (WR5xI)

20 The P.B.S. 10% surtax on all entertainment income.

Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (NIZHJ)

21 Raise alcohol taxes?

Let's not get crazy here.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (/kI1Q)

22 I work in show biz and I support this. Ouch...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (XkWWK)

23 Can we also tax the mandatory condoms LA now says must be used in porn movies?

Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (w4fEE)

24 Usher allowed to cut in long voting line in Georgia:

http://tinyurl.com/bbjbkw5


There should be a special tax levied on his special ass for that.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (UOM48)

25 I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.

A 50% surcharge if a family member ever caused a death by driving a car into water.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (GQ8sn)

26 Whew! Good thing I'm a New Jorker.

Posted by: Harv Whine-stine at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (rzTDZ)

27 Raise alcohol taxes?


Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 09, 2012 01:49 PM (QKKT0)

Hasn't done much for SC but hurt me.

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (YdQQY)

28 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we don't like? I got that right?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (da5Wo)



No, we're the party of put up or shut up. The Left, the Hollywood Left in particular, claims that this is Fair and Right and Good. Okay then. Those are your ideals. Live by them.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (VtjlW)

29 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their
own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like?


We're COMPROMISING. Reaching across the aisle. Ending gridlock.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (/kI1Q)

30 Can we get Morgan Freeman to narrate a commercial promoting this by opening with "Every re-elected president inherits challenges"?

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (YLZSZ)

31 >>I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.

How about a bill of attainder?

I mean, why its not like unconstitutionality has been a meaningful roadblock to the administration to date.

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (6Q9g2)

32 New Taxes!

Plastic surgery.
Beauty and health spa treatments.
Commercial revenue on network television.
Tariffs on concerts/movies filmed/performed outside of the country.
Recording contracts.
DVD/Blu-Ray sales.
Catering/Craft services.

I can see why lefttards love this so much. It's fun!

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (YSkOI)

33 Has anyone NOT been taking Glenn Reynolds' suggestions seriously? Because I have, since day one. If the Hollywood fucking pansies want to pay more, then make them pay more. This plan would hopefully protect the less well-paid members of the Hollywood establishment -- the grips, foley mixers, etc -- while hitting the actors and directors in the shorts. Good.

How can we apply this to musical artists? If Jay-Z wants to get up on stage and sing about bitches and drugs, fine. But why does he get paid so much for doing it? He wanted to pay more money, right? That's why he was out singing for 'Bammy. So make him.

Also, as I mentioned on the previous thread: copyright expirations. We need them. Fifty years. Fuck Disney.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (4df7R)

34 The mandatory condoms in pron will bankrupt them. They will move the studios or start releasing old movies. The internet has damn near bankrupted Big Choad.

Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (NIZHJ)

35 It's all a game and the politicians from both parties have been in on it.


Did you know that there has never been a film that has made a profit.

The IRS is well aware of the tricks but they have done nothing about it.

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (06lNq)

36 23 Can we also tax the mandatory condoms LA now says must be used in porn movies?
Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM (w4fEE)

California is now mandating all porn actors MUST use condoms, which most porn viewers do not want to see.

Watch the San Fernando Valley move to Nevada and Moonbeam's only source of income gone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (XkWWK)

37 Absolutely. You guys wanted class warfare? You guys wanted to go after the wealthy? Okay - cough up.

Oh - and plenty of excise taxes on goods only the wealthy can afford. Clothing that costs over $XXX.XX? 40% excise tax. Spirits and liquors, etc that cost over so much $? Another 50% excise tax. SWPL? 40% excise tax.


Keepit up. You guys so wanted this so much you deserve to get it - good and hard.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - What a Relief at November 09, 2012 01:53 PM (hLRSq)

38 I think I can surmise without fear of contradiction, that most of you do not have trusts?

Posted by: comatus at November 09, 2012 01:53 PM (qaVK+)

39 Can we get Morgan Freeman to narrate a commercial promoting this

And 50% of his fee goes straight to the U.S. Treasury.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at November 09, 2012 01:53 PM (/kI1Q)

40
So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we don't like? I got that right?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (da5Wo)


I think it's a part of the let it burn strategy, am I doing it right?

Posted by: Heralder at November 09, 2012 01:53 PM (+xmn4)

41 The ACA, aka Obamacare, includes a 10-percent excise tax on indoor UV tanning services that went into effect on July 1, 2010. up that fucker to 100%

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 01:53 PM (ma/2m)

42 If they don't want to pay cash, they can work it off the same way Caligula did with the Senate's wives.

Posted by: uterus cannon at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (3ZtZW)

43 I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.



Tax wealth instead of real income. Anyone with over x amount in the bank tax all of their investments at 40%. Actually Obama has put this forward at 30% so take him up on it. Say hey Preezy that's a great idea, we like it so much we will make it 40%. The stock market will tank, layoffs will skyrocket but so what. Let the people see what the fuck they voted for. Let those in Hollywood and Wallstreet feel the burn.


It's going to burn anyways, might as well get it over with.

Posted by: robtr at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (rTgOf)

44 35 Posted by: General Woundwort at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (06lNq)


You should research the story about how the late Art Buchwald sued Jeffrey Katzenberg and Eddie Murphy over "Coming to America."

You would be gobsmacked as to how the profits were hidden.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (XkWWK)

45 Taxing is fun!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (WdmOH)

46 Morgan Freeman has about a 60 IQ.

Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (NIZHJ)

47 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like?


Speaking for myself, I am now of the party of "Fuck you, asshole, time to pay the piper."

Posted by: Brother Cavil, with gasoline and matches, looking innocent at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (GBXon)

48 what if 50 million people boycotted Hollyweird ? ok, not 50, but 25 million ?


Hollywood does not give a shit about the US market. It's the foreign market where the money is at.


You know how everyone keeps talking about that horrible bomb Battleship? Battleship made $302 million world wide. Admittedly that's off an estimated $210 million in costs but a near 50% ROI is nothing to sneeze at.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (VtjlW)

49 New Taxes!



Plastic surgery.


NOOOOooooo!!!

For the love of all that is holy, leave the titties out of this!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (SY2Kh)

50 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their
own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like? I got that right?


I'm more for removing the usual tax shelters and loopholes and credits that Hollywood has carved out for themselves. That's a tax increase on them in the fairest way possible without looking like conservative revenge.

Hey, if big oil can't have any tax breaks then fucking Hollywood shouldn't either!

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (GQ8sn)

51 No, we're the party of put up or shut up. The Left, the Hollywood Left
in particular, claims that this is Fair and Right and Good. Okay
then. Those are your ideals. Live by them.


And Hollywood is the only one that would be affected by this right?



And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (da5Wo)

52 >>Can we also tax the mandatory condoms LA now says must be used in porn movies?

Alternatively: They're deductible, but need to be depreciated over 5 years.

Posted by: jakeman at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (96M6e)

53 Ace you are full of fail.

You want to talk about ideas, fightingin, winning elections.

GOP leadership wants more gay sex, more cocktail parties, and to feel popular. The party structure is such that thisisnt changing.

New party now. Lifetime ban on involvement against all current GOP leadership.

Posted by: Hopeless at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (XrMeG)

54 'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.

There are a couple of things that you could do right away that would have some impact. First, eliminate the deduction for attorney fees, trustee fees, etc. This right here would hurt the Hollywood crowd (and the sports crowd) because they could no longer deduct the cost of hiring their wife, brother or idiotic brother in law in their job as manager of the trust. In other words, all the money Bill Gates pays to Melinda Gates to administer the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation no longer gets deducted.

Second, no more charitable deduction for the trust. its supposed to be charitable in nature. it was created to do good work, let it, without the tax deduction.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (OWjjx)

55 Watch the San Fernando Valley move to Nevada and Moonbeam's only source of income gone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (XkWWK)

I look forward to a porn starlet named Sandy Vagina when they move to Nevada.

Posted by: joncelli at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (RD7QR)

56 Watch the San Fernando Valley move to Nevada and Moonbeam's only source of income gone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM (XkWWK)

Moonbeam didn't require a condom when he was administering BJs to all they guys in the CA park restrooms back in the day.
I used to know several cops on the vice squad that busted him. His dad hushed it up.

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (YdQQY)

57 "This plan would hopefully protect the less well-paid members of the Hollywood establishment -- the grips, foley mixers, etc -- while hitting the actors and directors in the shorts. Good."

meh. fuck them too. collateral damage. they're unionized. the union can help them out.

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (ma/2m)

58 Hollywood does not give a shit about the US market. It's the foreign market where the money is at.

75% tax on all overseas movie receipts.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (/kI1Q)

59 Why don't they just change the law so that small businesses don't have to file at the individual rate, but create a new lower rate just for them? Then jack it up for the Obama loving rich, and put a surcharge on Hollywood.

Posted by: Roy at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (VndSC)

60 Let it burn is not defeatist its realist. Come wide it now!

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (WdmOH)

61 Amnesty will completely destroy the GOP, and the Dems will get all the credit for it. Hispanics will still vote 70-80% Democrat, but this time their population will skyrocket and they'll be loyal for generations to come. See also; blacks after the Civil Rights Act.

But taxes...man, that's a tough one to blame on the GOP. That's kind of a Democrat stigma.

I love bipartisanship!

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (YSkOI)

62
I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.





Don't worry Ace, as soon as Hector gets back from picking his wife up at the strip joint, I'm sure he will have some ideas.

Posted by: maddogg at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (OlN4e)

63 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we don't like?

I'm a big believer in teaching that decisions have consequences. For the past thirty or forty years AT LEAST, our side has been mending the tears the other side has ripped in the fabric of American society without ever ONCE calling them on the carpet and making them see what they've done and fix it themselves. They've been allowed to dance merrily along, saying and doing whatever they please, because we've always been there in the background to pick up the pieces and do the real work. Not anymore.

To us, raising taxes is a punishment. But that's what the voters who re-elected the SCOAMT wanted. We're just giving them what they asked for.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (4df7R)

64 Amen brother! Hit these libtards where it hurts for a change! Let's see how their retoric holds up then!

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (F0WNa)

65 Even more fairly assessed, a movie tax of $500.

Ticket - $10
Popcorn - $10
Tax - $500
Total - $520

They'll be out of business overnight.

Posted by: Whatev at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (2t6Gz)

66 Damn u android spellcheck

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (WdmOH)

67 75% tax on all overseas movie receipts.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™, predenounced for your convenience at November 09, 2012 01:55 PM (/kI1Q)


Oooh, that gave me chills. Happy, happy chills.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (4df7R)

68 I'm more for removing the usual tax shelters and loopholes and credits
that Hollywood has carved out for themselves. That's a tax increase on
them in the fairest way possible without looking like conservative
revenge.



Now this I support. I'd close all loopholes for everyone. Shutdown every loophole, every credit, every deduction and then cut the shit out of the rates.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 01:57 PM (da5Wo)

69 I can see why lefttards love this so much. It's fun!

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 01:52 PM

"Value added" tax on SDMI encryption.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 09, 2012 01:57 PM (rzTDZ)

70 If folks like Bruce Willis, Dennis Miller, etc will vouch for this, I'm all in.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 09, 2012 01:57 PM (9eDbm)

71 I agree with you Ace. the Repbuclicans need to push this BIG and push it big in the name of "fairness." Remember how Obama bitched about oil companies getting some tax break on something? Hollywood as an industry (including all entertainment -- comics, musicians, producers/directors, pro athletes, actors) they ALL should pay much much more in taxes. Obama has put a line in the sand at $250K. Let's have the peoples in this entertainment industry lead the way. With one further caveat: retroactive taxes. These should be considered too. The state of Oregon did just that several years ago and it is my underdstanding that Calif is set to do that now. Residuals earnings from films previously made should be taxed at even higher rates as the people are no longer working to produce that particular song or movie. Consider this something equivalent to a capital gains tax. Many of these people love France and Hollande. Well, Hollande has instituted a 70% tax on the wealthy. Let's raise it to that level. (I think your 40% surcharge is in line with that.) Let's put names on these bills to: the ClooneyInitiative, the ABtoJZ Fairness Act, etc.

Posted by: jb at November 09, 2012 01:57 PM (DEdsS)

72 >>>It's Time For Hollywood To Pay Its Fair Share as Part of a Balanced Approach

YES!YES!YES! Let them have what they voted for, did charity events for. TAX ME! TAX ME! THEY'VE SAID. THEY'VE BEEN BEGGING US TO DO IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! LETS WHIP IT OUT AND GIVE IT TO THEM!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 01:57 PM (0q2P7)

73 The mandatory condoms in pron will bankrupt them. They will move the studios or start releasing old movies. The internet has damn near bankrupted Big Choad.

I, for one, have been advocating to our local Village Board that we use TIF funds for porn studios looking to relocate.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 01:57 PM (OWjjx)

74 All of these Hollywood cock suckers who lecture about paying their fair share do it because they use every tax shelter, loophole and off shore account they can.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (1Jaio)

75 Of course a damned flat tax would solve this for everyone, but that'll never happen.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (9eDbm)

76 65
Even more fairly assessed, a movie tax of $500.



Ticket - $10

Popcorn - $10

Tax - $500

Total - $520



They'll be out of business overnight.

Posted by: Whatev at November 09, 2012 01:56 PM (2t6Gz)

Nah. They'll scream for a subsidy and call it The Puppies and Kittens (and Hollywood) Preservation Act of 2013.

Posted by: joncelli at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (RD7QR)

77 I want this to be real. Hollywood needs to pay up.

Posted by: Fresh at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (O7ksG)

78 #36

Its a silly rule. The "you must wear condoms" from the "keep your laws of my body" crowd. What ever happened to "consenting adults in private"?

At best the rule will just be ignored.

How the hell is it going to be enforced? Gov't agents on set for all porn shoots? Porn shoots are already quasi legal and typically clandestine.

Any studio that cares to follow the law can simply relocate to nearby Nevada, and in fact, they probably should all just do so immediately.

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (6Q9g2)

79 At a certain point you've made enough money

Posted by: Dr. Slotkin at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (1crPI)

80 It's truly time to jump on board the "fairness" train. Let's screech it from here to Kingdom Come. They want fairness? They're going to get it but good. And by "they," I mean the entertainment industry. The one that goes overwhelmingly for the socialist model. Divide that pie. And axe the freaking tax credits that reduce Bon Jovi and Springsteen's tax rates so they can't hide behind bees and organic farming.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (lTVJy)

81 Song tax - any song under 20 years old played on the air gets a tax of $5000 per play. Hip Hop - dead overnight.

Posted by: Whatev at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (2t6Gz)

82 This will mainly work if you live in LA, NYC or Aspen, places where celebs live or congregate...but heckle them when you see them and how much they're paying. Especially Springsteen.

Posted by: Who Knows at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (W+Itt)

83 Again, for the 'Destroy the Media' meme.

Here you go.

We lost. I accept it. Let us work together with the Democrats to concentrate the pain and misery on those responsible.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM (YSkOI)

84 Tax all the things!

Posted by: cajun carrot of the carebare electorate at November 09, 2012 01:59 PM (UZQM8)

85 I think I can surmise without fear of contradiction, that most of you do not have trusts?
Posted by: comatus at November 09, 2012 01:53 PM (qaVK+)

Probably accurate. Even though I'm trying to live on the investment income from John's life insurance even I don't currently have a trust (because John died before one could be set up). If *I* die though (or get re-married) there will be a trust for the kids even though the dollar amount isn't actually very high.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at November 09, 2012 01:59 PM (NYki8)

86 Also, as I mentioned on the previous thread: copyright expirations. We need them. Fifty years. Fuck Disney.


I put out on twitter the other day that one of the reasons why Lucas sold to Disney is that now Star Wars will never ever ever become public domain. The Mouse Star will never allow any of its properties to become public domain.


And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?


How did you manage to avoid the barrel?


What makes you think that isn't the case now? I'm a single woman with no kids who isn't a home owner. I have *no* deductions. You think that I'm not being punished? Flip your thinking - the mortgage interest deduction is not to encourage home ownership, it's a punishment to those who do not own a home. Deductions for dependents aren't encouragements to have children, they are punishments on those of us who do not. We are already in a punitive tax system. Let's step on the gas, baby.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 01:59 PM (VtjlW)

87
Even more fairly assessed, a movie tax of $500.They'll be out of business overnight.Posted by: Whatev


No, it has to be at the production / financing level.

Movie companies don't give a shit about domestic box office anymore.

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 09, 2012 01:59 PM (SX6wc)

88 14 BC 1981,

Hey Brian I am every bit the anti high tax idealist you are.

We lost time to fight fire with fire.

Let Jay Z and beyonce explain to welfare recipients why they should be taxed lower than they are.

Let it burn.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 01:59 PM (LRFds)

89
All trust fund income above $250,000/year gets a 75% tax.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:59 PM (PHb2k)

90 How about an Anchor Diversity Tax?

NBC lays Lester Holt about somewhere between $250-500k but pays Brian Williams near $25 million a year.

Same thing with Al Roker, Ann Curry, and Savannah Guthrie vs. Matt Lauer, the $25 million man.

Tax the overpaid news anchors.

Also, draw and quarter Stephen Colbert, that cocksucking cocksucker that sucks cock.

Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (w4fEE)

91 And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?

For years, celebrities and such have asked to pay more. Actually asked. We're just giving them what they wanted.

Posted by: Slublog at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (0nqdj)

92 OT- but Dow is up 2.65. Decimals are stubborn things. Own it, Barry!

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (BoE3Z)

93 OK enough fantasy land. Its way past beer thirty.

Posted by: Whatev at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (2t6Gz)

94 The Republicans can never win another election. It is impossible when unlikely voters favor Dems 70-30. Registering and getting unlikelies to vote will be easier and easier with new technologies.

IT'S OVER.

Posted by: Dr. Slotkin at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (1crPI)

95 Again, for the 'Destroy the Media' meme.

My personal goal in life. My hatred for the media BURNS. I will see its pillars and castles torn down.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (4df7R)

96 Shit, this taxing your enemy game is fun. No wonder Obama has been doing it so long.

So, when do we start figuring out how to tax unions out of existence?

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (OWjjx)

97 14 >> So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their
own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like? I got that right?

Yes. We lost. Give them what they want, what they have always wanted.....if that's what you call advocating.

However, I suggest we fight this shit tooth and nail still at the state level and below.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (ccXZP)

98 28 Alex the Chick,

exactly let it fall down.

You won high taxes are the answer here's a list you do this and we'll give you your hit the rich barry.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (LRFds)

99 Seriously there's some good libtard examples in Atlas Shrugged to go by for maximum burnage.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (WdmOH)

100 19
what if 50 million people boycotted Hollyweird ? ok, not 50, but 25 million ?


Posted by: runner at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM

It might happen without an intentional boycott. Movies are going to get a lot more expensive since the cinema business is a huge energy user. Theater owners are going to get hit with huge hikes in air conditioning bills, and no one will sit in a hot concrete cubicle for 3 hours. Junk food laws will either eliminate the cash cows that are the concession stands, or make those big Cokes, popcorn, and Raisinettes too expensive.


Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (wwsoB)

101 >>>And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?

Yes, I'm in favor of taxing the people who say they most wish to be taxed. I take them at their word.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (LCRYB)

102 Hollywood AND professional athletes.


You wanted him.....you got him. Pay up.

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (X6akg)

103 Here's the rub. The Administration will never do it. Hollywood finances their elections. The administration is not going to do anything to jeopardize that flow of cash. The Hollywoodites think it's great to 'tax the rich' as long as it doesn't affect them. And it's not just the Hollywoodites either, just look at the lengths John Kerry went to avoid paying taxes on his yacht. Any one of them can voluntarily pay 'extra' taxes, but don't. Warren Buffet has spent years fighting with the IRS over [allegedly] too high tax bills. Same goes for pushing through tax reform that involves taxing assets as opposed to labor. Congresscritters will NEVER pursue it because it will affect them. Seriously, can you see Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi agreeing to pass legislation that taxes themselves higher. Not gonna happen.

I love the idea and think it's 'fair', but you could never get Washington to do it.

Posted by: wendy at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (uBVp6)

104 #53:

Got it - your nick is all you need to post. Now frack off.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - What a Relief at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (hLRSq)

105 If a Hollywood tax ever happens, I may consider paying for movies/tv/music again.

After watching and listening to the parade of Hollywood idiots & hypocrites open their pie holes in favor of anything and everything socialist for years, a tax hike for them should pose no problem...yes? I'm surprised they haven't already produced an asinine Obama love video pledging 1/3rd of their income to their leader and urging the rest of us to do the same.

Posted by: Chalky at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (nm4/M)

106
99% tax on anything considered Rap or Hip Hop music in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (PHb2k)

107 I don't know about this tax stuff .... but Sandra Smith is on the floor and, man, she is looking extra sexy. Cleavage-city.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (X3lox)

108 And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?

Its called Chicago Land politics....punish your enemies, reward your friends. It is what Obama does.

Adapt or die.

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (OWjjx)

109 Slu, Obama is determined to tax Republicans.

If we're going to have higher taxes-- and we are -- I'm going to demand that Obama's coalition pays its "fair share."

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (LCRYB)

110 All actor royalties are assessed at 80%. Fuck you. Pay me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (XkWWK)

111 any song under 20 years old played on the air gets a tax of $5000 per play. Hip Hop - dead overnight.

Golden Age of Hip-Hop was late 80s. Y'all really are the White Party.

Posted by: Biz Markie at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (/kI1Q)

112 Tax them til they scream! Then tax the scream!

Posted by: maddogg at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (OlN4e)

113 I don't think we need to worry about destroying the gop. They got that covered.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (WdmOH)

114 As I said in the last thread, 99% tax on all income from royalties and residuals.

Posted by: Brendan at November 09, 2012 02:02 PM (2jQGY)

115 Tax Eva Longoria at a 250% rate. Not that she'll ever work again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (1Jaio)

116 Steer us into the heart of the sun 2016.

Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (NIZHJ)

117 I was quoting someone up thread and screwed up the code. I like this plan. Let it burn.

Posted by: Slublog at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (0nqdj)

118 Now this I support. I'd close all loopholes for everyone. Shutdown every
loophole, every credit, every deduction and then cut the shit out of
the rates.


Someone else was making the "revenge tax" argument in the lower threads, but I pointed out how vindictive that looked. Almost like a Bill of Attainder, singling out industries dominated by lefties for punishment and protecting our side from harm. That's not what this is supposed to be about.

I know a lot of us are bitter and angry over Tuesday, but for godssakes the tax system isn't about picking friends and settling scores. It should be about levying the fairest possible system without regard to who you are or vote for.

If we want to make the celebutards start feeling the pain, then go after their deductions. Make it so they can't hide their money or reduce their income in any meaningful way to pay little or no taxes. Fix the fucking accounting laws so a movie's grosses can't be hidden in a billion different accounts, away from higher rates.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (GQ8sn)

119 A botox tax would be enough to cause Pelosi to join the TEA party.

Posted by: yinzer at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (/Mla1)

120 How did you manage to avoid the barrel?



Charm and wit? Devestating good looks?





What makes you think that isn't the case now? I'm a single woman
with no kids who isn't a home owner. I have *no* deductions. You
think that I'm not being punished? Flip your thinking - the mortgage
interest deduction is not to encourage home ownership, it's a punishment
to those who do not own a home. Deductions for dependents aren't
encouragements to have children, they are punishments on those of us who
do not. We are already in a punitive tax system. Let's step on the
gas, baby.




Legitimate arguments. But the idea of "hey, lets tax people who make over $1 million cause....yeah! they voted for it!"

Fuck that. I'd like to make a lot of money someday. Prob won't ever make 7 figures, but the idea that someone should be taxed more solely based on the fact that they make more is absurd. It's what conservatives have fought against for as long as I can remember. Now, if you want to talk about closing loopholes in the tax system? I'm down.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (da5Wo)

121 Nah just to what Schumer wanted to do, pay for all the hurricane damage by just adding it to the deficit. What else did I read this morning, oh yeah invade the Cayman Islands.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (NzBQO)

122 I'm for RETROACTIVE taxes on Hollywood, going back to 1900.

Posted by: maddogg at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (OlN4e)

123 100, 19 Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (wwsoB)


The theaters do not make money on tickets. Only on concessions. Eating cold brussell sprouts without salt or dip in a hot theatre is not my idea of entertainment.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (XkWWK)

124
I don't think we need to worry about destroying the gop. They got that covered.

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Heh. Think of all the free time we'll have now. It's time to do some serious meddling in the art of making them eat what they advocate for.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (lTVJy)

125 Fucking kulaks. Hate those guys.

Posted by: the 47% at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (BoE3Z)

126 Can we haz a bling tax too?

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (OWjjx)

127 120% tax on trademarks and copyrights.

Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (NIZHJ)

128 I'd do this:

The Bush tax cuts for small business owners remain the same. Tax income on anyone making over 500K at much higher rates. Small business owners tend to be Republicans. And from the last election, with 8/10 richest counties voting for Obama, the rich must want Obama's tax hikes.

It would be fairly easy to implement as small business owners file tax forms that regular rich liberals don't. That way, George Clooney can enjoy higher income tax rates, plus the Glenn Reynolds special, and feel good that he's doing his fair share while the small business owner, who actually creates jobs - can.

Posted by: Hoi Polloi Wingnuttia at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (xvtYZ)

129 How the hell is it going to be enforced? Gov't agents on set for all porn shoots?


Yes. I'm not kidding. There are now supposed to be health inspectors on the set of porn shoots.

Oh how I wish I was a rental agent for empty McMansions in Nevada. I would have been camped out at Vivid's doorstep Wednesday morning with a listing of all the places they can rent to do shoots.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (VtjlW)

130 #102

Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican.
But Hollywood is lefty to the core.

Anyway, this is all fun talk, but lets face it, Obama holds veto power, and the Senate a strong Dem majority. Punitive taxes like this aren't ever really going to happen.

The fun isn't in actually enacting them, its in simply PROPOSING them, and then making all the rich "we rich need to pay more taxes" do quintuple backflips in trying to explain away how high taxes on THEM actually hurt the economy and everyone else.

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (6Q9g2)

131 Steer us into the heart of the sun 2016.


Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 02:03 PM (NIZHJ)
What? Too good for me?

Posted by: SMOD 2016 at November 09, 2012 02:04 PM (5iuEW)

132 I love the idea and think it's 'fair', but you could never get Washington to do it.
Posted by: wendy at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (uBVp6)


Then get them on record and make them explain WHY. When there are multimillionaire actors, actresses, musicians and directors who WANT to be taxed more -- who have ASKED to be taxed more -- why won't the polis in Washington do it? Why do they keep taxing US instead?

I want them to explain that. I want them to explain it in detail, and I want them to make it clear to the average American that the reason they don't tax Hollywood is because Hollywood is filled with "beautiful people." And "beautiful people" are just better than Joe Schmoe from Idaho. What's so special about HIM?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (4df7R)

133 41 The ACA, aka Obamacare, includes a 10-percent excise tax on indoor UV tanning services that went into effect on July 1, 2010. up that fucker to 100%

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Hey brother, that's not funny! I'm broke now that the bitch took all my money in the divorce!

Posted by: Hulk Hogan at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (e0xKF)

134 Pay me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ydqjqZ_3oc

(nsfw, goodfellas)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (PHb2k)

135 One more thing. End the exceptions written into gun laws for movie/TV armorers. Fuck them. The entertainment industry doesn't NEED to use guns that the average citizen can't own. CGI has largely made them irrelevant. Example: the cathedral shootout in Once Upon A Time In Mexico was done with no squibs on the walls, and with rubber guns, because it was filmed inside an actual cathedral which would not allow gunfire inside. Even with blanks. All the bullet hits and muzzle blasts were added later in Robert Rodriguez's home studio, per his commentary on the DVD.

Unfortunately, those are mostly state laws, especially here in my beloved Clownifornia.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (TIIx5)

136 To hell with racial pandering.

I say we push this idea, and when the Dems and Hollywod balk, we hijack the 1% meme.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (YSkOI)

137 Its nice talking about this "punishment tax" but the only real fair way to tax would be what I have always advocated.


A 10% flat tax on all sources of income regardless of the amount. No exceptions, no credits, and no deductions. The limit spending to the total taxes collected the previous year.


It will take an Art V convention to do that.

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (YdQQY)

138 Burn Hollywood burn, taking down Tinseltown
Burn Hollywood burn, burn down to the ground
Burn Hollywood burn, burn holywood burn
Take down Tinseltown, burn down to the ground

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 09, 2012 02:05 PM (SX6wc)

139 Can we friggin tax NBA championships?

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (OWjjx)

140 Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican.
But Hollywood is lefty to the core.







Like the NBA and NFL? I'd like to tax Lovie Smith out of existence

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (1Jaio)

141 @BCochran1981
It's all about fairness. The government needs more revenue, and income tax is a significant source of that revenue. Yet, a significant percentage of the population doesn't pay it, and those in the entertainment industry are paying proportionately less and are allowed more exemptions than those who spend the entire year earning. The entertainment industry is largely Democrat because they enjoy being exempt from the same rules that Obama claims are making it too easy for the rich to get richer.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (9eDbm)

142 Tax the leg.

Posted by: John Kreese at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (Ks4nX)

143
>>>And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?



Dude, that ship, along with a 1000 others sailed a long time ago. It's time to stop shielding America from her stupid decisions and let her have a good strong dose of reality.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (0q2P7)

144 Put an end to the laws that enable them to claim that billion dollar box office hits have lost money

An old adage in Hollywood is that the most creative people there are the accountants

Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (wwsoB)

145 How the hell is it going to be enforced? Gov't agents on set for all porn shoots? Porn shoots are already quasi legal and typically clandestine. ---
As God as my we witness, we we watch each and every pron movie looking for violators. No matter how much overtime is required

Posted by: SEIU at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (SO2Q8)

146 Although I like it, it won't fly. Had Mitt won and we got the Senate, it would have a chance. Apply it to all "flat fees", consulting, speeches, etc.

Posted by: eureka! at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (UL+ny)

147
okay, this is a start

but what's Plan B?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (jUytm)

148 Yes, I'm in favor of taxing the people who say they most wish to be taxed. I take them at their word.





Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (LCRYB)


Fuck that noise. A few ultra rich libtards say they want to pay higher taxes and now everyone who makes over $1 million gets punished? Are you trying to run things aground faster? You join the Let It Burn camp Ace?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (da5Wo)

149 Like the NBA and NFL? I'd like to tax Lovie Smith out of existence

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My taxes are what we thought they were!

Posted by: Lovie Smith at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (e0xKF)

150 Thats what I don't get. The tards think people like Eva Longoria 'get them' but evil Romney doesn't.

Tax the hell out of them. They want to be bleeding hearts, well, make them bleed. Nobody deserves to make 20 million on a movie. They should only make 45,000 or whatever the average American salary is. Get on it Boehner. Call it the Obama Fairness Tax.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (UU0OF)

151 But a high paid actor, or athlete, can make that much in a season, and then take the rest of the year off.


--I disagree a little. The best-paid pro athletes (in most sports) usually continue their "work" pretty much all year. Peyton Manning and Drew Brees did not get where they are by taking the entire offseason "off."

It may not be salaried work, but it is something like "professional development."

Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (jKE+Z)

152 A thousand times yes. Make this plan happen. Give what these entertainers want.

Posted by: CDR M at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (Mv/2X)

153 @114 -- and after 5 years, the copyright expires and the source of those royalties is public domain. every song, tv show, movie, etc.

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (ma/2m)

154 national sales tax on movies, concerts, and plays

Posted by: Gerry at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (T4SG9)

155 Whoopie was bitching about the tax rate 4 years ago...

...she's gonna love the new tax increases.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (zucZS)

156 250,000 dollar fine for each chin.

The Michael Moore tax.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (YSkOI)

157 "Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican."

Are you talking about NASCAR or PGA pros?

Posted by: Dr. Slotkin at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (1crPI)

158 I'm not a fan of punitive taxation - even against some of the most hypocritical, despicable pieces of shit on Earth - but I'd like to secede and place outrageous tariffs on all goods and services from the American Socialist Superstate. I can't stand ASSes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (X3lox)

159 Again, for the 'Destroy the Media' meme.

Excise tax on television ads.

Don't want to pay it? Don't buy the air time. More than one progg made that argument when we complained about the Obamacare excise tax on pacemakers and colostomy bags and wheelchairs and defibrillators, etc: avoid the tax by just not buying them.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (/kI1Q)

160 I'm all in for screwing the rich guy now, most of them are liberals anyway. Oh yea, let it burn, the quicker the better and then we can get back to rebuilding it.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (9U1OG)

161 >>Yes. I'm not kidding. There are now supposed to be health inspectors on the set of porn shoots.

Good luck with that.

Are these "health inspectors" doctors? (Presumably ones now looking to supplement their incomes from reduced reimbursements under Obamacare). Where do they come from?

They're supposed to stand on the side of every porn shoot watching beginning to "end"?

What happens if they don't show up on time. You can't shoot?

What happens if I shoot anyway (OK poor choice of words, but you get the idea). . .then what?


Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (6Q9g2)

162 132
I love the idea and think it's 'fair', but you could never get Washington to do it.

Posted by: wendy at November 09, 2012 02:01 PM (uBVp6)


Yeah, well, that's what one reading of this election is. "Fair". Egalitarianism. Why is Hollywood exempt from the election results. After all, to quote Marx - "at some point you've made enough money". Fair.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (BoE3Z)

163 Good luck getting that through the senate and especially the preezy. Hollywood is their go-to city for campaign funds.

Let's secede and let THEM burn.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (xZZ44)

164 Prob won't ever make 7 figures, but the idea that someone should be taxed more solely based on the fact that they make more is absurd.


Of course it is. That's the entire point. You fight absurdity by being absurd.


Of course, that nice documentary about the future that Mike Judge brought back after ace allowed him to borrow that time machine he doesn't have and apparently allows Mike Judge to use does tend to show that this is not always the best idea.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (VtjlW)

165 Someone tip off Adam Baldwin to sell off all his shit and move to a secluded area of Montana first.

Sorry, big guy.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (YSkOI)

166 They want TFG as pres, they need really feel the pain the rest of us are going feel, or already have felt, from his policies.

Posted this on on a dead thread just barely, but just heard on the radio that John Huntsman Jr, our esteemed ex
ambassador to China and useful idiot, is on the short list of people to replace Hillary
as sec of state; he is in the running with John 3 purple hearts Kerry.

Rush
wants Mitt to be put in a position in Obama's cabinet to help with
commerce/jobs, in the spirit of bipartisanship and healing. If we had a
better, less egotistical man as pres I think this would be something to
pursue, but TFG is TFG to the end. Would have been a nice consolation
prize.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (8wqqE)

167 Let it burn===========> bring on the flamethrowers!

Posted by: maddogg at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (OlN4e)

168 An Occupy Hollywood "mostly-peaceful" protest would be amazing.

Posted by: yinzer at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (/Mla1)

169
by the way,

anyone else hearing the

down on the sunset strip song in their head right now?

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (jUytm)

170 140 Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican.
But Hollywood is lefty to the core.



Like the NBA and NFL? I'd like to tax Lovie Smith out of existence

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:06 PM (1Jaio)

--In general, the NFL and NBA "labor" is Dem, while "management" is Rep.

Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (jKE+Z)

171
you hear the trumpet? it won't stop

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (jUytm)

172 So, when do we start figuring out how to tax unions out of existence?

Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM


Simple, mon ami.

Start with a 100% tax on union dues. Ban all union-related 501c3 groups. Tax the pay of union execs at 150%. Make all expense accounts for union thugs taxable at 100%.

Then levy a 200% tax on all monies used for political purposes by unions, payable by the unions, not the recipients.

Any money put in pension funds is okay, except expenses aren't allowed. Any sums collected that don't go directly to workers are taxed at 500%.

Finally, add a surcharge (a modest 250%, say) on property taxes for any buildings owned by unions.

Pass a "fair wage" law that sets union thugs' executives salaries at $25,000 per year max. That is taxed at 50%, and any money that goes to them above that gets a 1000% surcharge.

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (yKUrR)

173 Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican.


===========


Please....name me 10 out of the 1000's that play.

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (X6akg)

174 What ever the rates the demonrats propose we should triple.

Posted by: The Free Shit Mafia at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (NIZHJ)

175 A 10% flat tax on all sources of income regardless of the amount. No
exceptions, no credits, and no deductions. The limit spending to the
total taxes collected the previous year.




THIS

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (da5Wo)

176 >>>168 An Occupy Hollywood "mostly-peaceful" protest would be amazing.

We can take shits on limousines.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (YSkOI)

177 "Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican." Are you talking about NASCAR or PGA pros?
Posted by: Dr. Slotkin at November 09, 2012 02:07 PM (1crPI)


-----------------------------------------------------------


*cough* Redskins deal with Rush. *cough*

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:10 PM (xZZ44)

178
Vic, we know the right thing to do. But the dems like punishment taxes, so we can only go along with them. I'll be in my office.


*applies for porn health inspector job*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:10 PM (PHb2k)

179 Last month, Governor Moonbeam extended the 200 million dollar tax credit to Hollywood production. His reasoning was that it was necessary to keep film production jobs from moving out of state.

Yet everyone else has to cough it up because unless they pay lots more in taxes, teachers and cops will get laid off

And Californians swallow that whole

Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2012 02:10 PM (wwsoB)

180 How the hell is it going to be enforced? Gov't agents on set for all porn shoots?

Bureaucrats watching the tapes, fines for violations.

Gonna get millions of applications for that job.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at November 09, 2012 02:10 PM (/kI1Q)

181 >>>Good luck getting that through the senate and especially the preezy. Hollywood is their go-to city for campaign funds.



That's fine. Let them come teary eyed on the TV and explain why they can't pay a little more in taxes to make things a bit more even and spread the wealth around. After all they are just so damn lucky they should have to share. Yeah I would love to see them make a public appeal to the contrary.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:10 PM (0q2P7)

182
There used to be fat excise taxes on movie box office receipts.

Hollyweird insisted that these be removed, because, they said, taxes cost jobs.

But we now have it on good authority from liberals that taxes don't cost jobs. So let's put those excise taxes back in place.

Tax movie production, too. Heavily. Including software movies such as Pixar make. This will further bone California, which is in need of an absolutely epic boning.

As part of the "bone California" project, make sure porn film production is also taxed. The porn industry is already looking at having to relocate out of Los Angeles County to get around the new county condom requirement. Tax them heavily enough that they'll not only relocate out of LA, they'll relocate out of the USA.

What? You like porn? There will still be porn. It will just not be contributing money to liberal coffers any longer. After all, tax hikes don't hurt jobs. Liberals say so. Let them live with that.


Posted by: torquewrench at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (ymG7s)

183 Please....name me 10 out of the 1000's that play.

Prior to taking and defaulting on those loans from Rhode Island, I would have said Curt Schilling.

Posted by: Armando at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (5iuEW)

184 Soooo spot on. Let's fight for this. But it will take time.

You know what's quick? We HAVE to start tying these libtards to the mess they helped create. They get to come out and work overtime electing Obama, and then go back to just chillin? Nah, no more.

Today's round of layoffs brought to you by Bruce Springsteen.
This weeks rise in your insurance rates caused by Chris Rock.
Jay Z and Beyonce are proud to bring you this month's increase in the black unemployment rate.

WE HAVE TO BEGIN MAKING THESE CELEBRITIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ELECTIONS THEY ARE SO PROUD TO INFLUENCE.

Ditto with the Chuck Todds and Candy Crowleys of the world.

Posted by: sgr at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (xa5GW)

185 I was watching Survivor Wednesday.. *SPOLIER ALERT*.. the baseball guy got kicked off and the end he was really pissed and said something about the million dollars but after Obama got his hands on it, it would be more like $600,000. I didn't catch the whole thing because I was walking out of the roombut my daughter and I were dying laughing. I can't believe they let it air.

Posted by: jewells45 at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (l/N7H)

186 And is this really the precedent you wanna set? Taxes as punishment against groups you don't like?

Marriage tax, anyone?

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (FcR7P)

187 >>>And Californians swallow that whole

And we don't even gag anymore!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (0q2P7)

188 Of course it is. That's the entire point. You fight absurdity by being absurd.

I get you alex. I get that the real point of this is fighting the hypocrisy of paying taxes by the very people who are Jedi masters at not paying taxes.

I just think there are better ways to do this though.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (GQ8sn)

189 So, has there been any meaningful talk about this with anyone in Congress?

Hollywood, the media, and the ilk that have supported obama and harped about the rich paying their fair share should be hurt, and hurt bad. These SOBs need to feel the pain they have so strongly advocated for us little people.

Posted by: Havedash at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (F0WNa)

190 "Rush wants Mitt to be put in a position in Obama's cabinet to help with"

If Obama offers him the job, Mitt should say he accepts and pull a Ray Paterson from the Simpsons during the press conference: "Oh gosh. You know, I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to... leave you wallowing in the mess you've made. You're screwed, thank you, bye"

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (ma/2m)

191 157 "Pro athletes actually tend to skew Republican."

Are you talking about NASCAR or PGA pros?

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Probably any athlete whose winnings are based on individual performances rather than contracts.

NASCAR, PGA, tennis, bowling, etc.

Guys under contracts handled by unions such as MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, etc? Typically lefty, with the NBA skewing hard left in particular.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (e0xKF)

192 156 250,000 dollar fine for each chin. The Michael Moore tax.
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FOK YU

Posted by: Chinatown at November 09, 2012 02:12 PM (SO2Q8)

193
Tax TV residuals and movie back-end payments at high rates, because they're evil unearned income.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2012 02:12 PM (kdS6q)

194 Shit, this taxing your enemy game is fun. No wonder Obama has been doing it so long. So, when do we start figuring out how to tax unions out of existence?
Posted by: Mallamutt. RINO President for Life at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM (OWjjx)

May as well tackle the high number of exemptions that unions receive for Obamacare. Make them the target and have them explain why people are being fired/laid off for Obamacare taxeswhen they don't have to. Make them get some skin in the game, to quote their favorite President.

Posted by: CDR M at November 09, 2012 02:12 PM (JSetw)

195 Forward this entire thread to Paul Ryan. If nothing else, he'd probably get a laugh out of it.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:12 PM (YSkOI)

196 Ace, it's a great idea. However, as long as we're ruled by the Media, it will never happen.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 09, 2012 02:12 PM (i0App)

197 Even the condom issue illustrates the unequality of communism.

Eliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner = raw dog
Professional actors = WEAR A J-HAT OR HEAD TO J-AIL

Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 02:12 PM (w4fEE)

198 23
Can we also tax the mandatory condoms LA now says must be used in porn movies?


Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM

I would like to propose that the president be mandated to wear a condom as I bend over for him

Well, OK .. sorry for being extreme and obstructionist. Could he at least put some KY Jelly on it?

Posted by: John Boehner at November 09, 2012 02:13 PM (wwsoB)

199 This misses the point. It doesn't hit those who already have theirs. They're the one's calling the shots. What we need to do is retroactively eliminate the Bush tax cuts on all sources of wealth over $1,000,000 (not just earned income). So basically, if you acquired more than $1,000,000 in any year after 2000, just write a check for 40% (less tax actually paid) and send it to the IRS. Isn't that what the super rich have been saying they want? Yo, Warren, you underpaid, so pay up.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 09, 2012 02:13 PM (dZ756)

200 >>Start with a 100% tax on union dues [etc]

And how on God's green earth are you even going to get something like this out of committee, let alone actually into a vote, with a 0% chance of passing the Senate, and a 0% chance of surviving Presidential veto?

Again, "punish Hollywood" is a nice mental balm for Tuesday's drubbing, but its never actually going to happen.

The only use of this sorts of threats is to make the loud-mouthed hypocrites in Hollywood change their tunes a little, but I don't even think THAT will work, since they'll have to know there is no real chance of this sort of punitive law actually passing, so they can feel free to indulge their taxation hypocrisy all they like.

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:13 PM (PwGfd)

201 There is room for at least three more brackets at the top end. Think big for the children. Forward! Fair Share.

Posted by: Pollution-Based Life Form at November 09, 2012 02:13 PM (sOtz/)

202 Time for the winners to show their supporters how much they care about them. LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 02:13 PM (WdmOH)

203 Rush wants Mitt to be put in a position in Obama's cabinet to help with commerce/jobs, in the spirit of bipartisanship and healing. If we had a better, less egotistical man as pres I think this would be something to pursue, but TFG is TFG to the end. Would have been a nice consolation prize.
Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2012 02:08 PM (8wqqE)


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Dear Leader would adopt as many of Mitt's proposels as he has met with his own "Jobs Council".

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:13 PM (xZZ44)

204
>>>As part of the "bone California" project

Hey it's only "fair" right? They just bent us over the table. Now it's their turn.

Wait.

I live in Cali. Any room still in Texas?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (0q2P7)

205 An Occupy Hollywood "mostly-peaceful" protest would be amazing.

I've always wanted to shit on a Maybach!

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (GQ8sn)

206 Posted by: sgr at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (xa5GW)

Love that idea. They helped reelect him, they need to own it.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (8wqqE)

207 One of the reasons the media and Hollywood are the way they are is because they are completely insulated and removed from the consequences of the liberal policies they support.

I want to change that, for a better America.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (YSkOI)

208 Eliminate all deductions for charity. Most charities are leftist scams anyway.

Tax charities. Most charities are leftist scams anyway.

Tax endowments that are held by charities, universities, etc. Those are mostly leftist scams anyway.

Figure out how to tax the trustfundians like the Walton family, the Kennedy family, the Buffet family, the Gates family. They're mostly leftists and use their money to punish the rest of us anyway.

Posted by: Boots at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (neKzn)

209 Guys under contracts handled by unions such as MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, etc? Typically lefty, with the NBA skewing hard left in particular.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (e0xKF)

--In the case of the NHL, most of them aren't even American so party is irrelevant.

Posted by: logprof at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (jKE+Z)

210 A 10% flat tax on all sources of income regardless of the amount. No exceptions, no credits, and no deductions. The limit spending to the total taxes collected the previous year.

Here's the problem with that: it's the right thing to do, and "right" lost on Tuesday.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (FcR7P)

211 Tax movie production, too. Heavily. Including software movies such as Pixar make. This will further bone California, which is in need of an absolutely epic boning.

As part of the "bone California" project, make sure porn film production is also taxed. The porn industry is already looking at having to relocate out of Los Angeles County to get around the new county condom requirement. Tax them heavily enough that they'll not only relocate out of LA, they'll relocate out of the USA.

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I think California's going to do a good enough job of boning itself, much like Illinois and New York.

I guess the question is whether they fail so hard and so fast that they tip the entire country over like Hank Johnson's version of Guam.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (e0xKF)

212 "If folks like Bruce Willis, Dennis Miller, etc will vouch for this, I'm all in."
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By most accounts, Bruce Willis is a dick. He is not a conservative. Don't hinge anything on his acceptance.

Posted by: Kensington at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (znT2j)

213 To catch the "Kennnedy Wealth" you must tax the Municipal Bonds and other not taxable wealth retainer/generators.

Also, start taxing those Non-Profit but extremely political Foundations, like the Ford Foundation and Carnegie Mellon. Those foundations have been funding radical groups directly and affecting US politics.

Scorched Earth, Baby...!

Posted by: dee dee ramone at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (UdPlZ)

214
A Leaving California tax please.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (PHb2k)

215 Today's round of layoffs brought to you by Bruce Springsteen.This weeks rise in your insurance rates caused by Chris Rock.Jay Z and Beyonce are proud to bring you this month's increase in the black unemployment rate.

Twitter is our friend. Make this a daily, weekly, monthly message on Twitter. Constant barrage. I want the left to go DEAF from all the responsibility we rain on their heads.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (4df7R)

216 Secede! Let THEM burn.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (xZZ44)

217 Can we get AOSHQ "Let. It. Burn." t-shirts?

Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (CMbMd)

218 I would think MLB players skew conservative. After all, a large percentage are Hispanic. And Hispanics tend to be naturally hard working and conservative, so I hear.

Posted by: yinzer at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (/Mla1)

219 You know what's quick? We HAVE to start tying these libtards to the mess they helped create.

Agree 100% but again, it will never happen. Liberals do not accept blame. Liberals only accept praise. The only mistake a Liberal has ever made was assuming people were as smart as he was.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (i0App)

220 I'd very much prefer to just restrict all the "green energy" people to using only wind and solar power. But only them.

No "carbon offsets" for you, dipshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (X3lox)

221 The "bazillions will be unemployed if Hollywood doesn't get its Free Shit" line gets a big, fat "meh" from me.

I don't have a job and haven't for three-plus years. The fuck do I care if a bunch of privileged whiny liberal assholes are out in the cold too?

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (yKUrR)

222 Much easier way to sock it to Hollywood, and raise revenue:

Reform copyright law so that (1) everything defaults to public domain 40 years after first publication, unless (2) you PAY a yearly "copyright extension fee" equivalent to 50% of all gross revenues beyond that 40 year mark. That way, Disney can keep Mickey Mouse out of the public domain, but they have to pay the gov't to do it, instead of zombie Sonny Bono.

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (vjyZP)

223 169: by the way,
anyone else hearing the



♪ down on the sunset strip song in their head right now?

No, but I AM hearing the end chorus to April 26, 1992 by Sublime:

"Let it burn, wanna let it burn,

wanna let it burn, wanna wanna let it burn..."


*and I second the motion that forcing these hypocritical cockshrubs to explain, in full view, why THEY don't actually deserve to pay the higher taxes they say they want would be....magically delicious.

Posted by: ninjaphish at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (VTXt1)

224 Hollywood wants the rich to pay more in taxes, and even say they want to pay more

I say give them what they want ... Good and Hard

Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (wwsoB)

225 Secede! Let THEM burn.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (xZZ44)


Hear, hear!

The Constitutional Union of American States.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (X3lox)

226 Boehner and company are pursuing the wrong course. We must go from being the Party of No to the Party of Present. Boehner needs to come out and say, "You won the election, Mr. President. The nation seems to agree with your course. We do not. But we will not stand in the way. We will abstain. You can raise the taxes on the rich as much as you want."

In other words, we give the keys tothe car to this bunch of drunken teenagers and let them wreck it. Then these assholes will finally have to own their filthy lies.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (lOlyY)

227 "Well, OK .. sorry for being extreme and obstructionist. Could he at least put some KY Jelly on it?"
==========

No. I won.

Posted by: King Barry Choom 2.0 at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (znT2j)

228 209 Guys under contracts handled by unions such as MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, etc? Typically lefty, with the NBA skewing hard left in particular.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:11 PM (e0xKF)

--In the case of the NHL, most of them aren't even American so party is irrelevant.

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True. But a lot of those people come from countries like Canada, Russia, Norway, Sweden, etc., that are pretty far left on the socialism scale compared to the USA.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (e0xKF)

229 Send this over to the Breitbart folks. I actually think Andrew would've gotten a kick out of this despite the principle shifting.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (YSkOI)

230 Ace tweet that should really be considered: Windfall profits tax on the sale of intellectual property more than 20 years old. (At some point you've made enough money).

Put an end to the never ending, always increasing copyrights BS.

Posted by: dogfish at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (N2yhW)

231 --In the case of the NHL, most of them aren't even American so party is irrelevant.

Posted by: logprof

What NHL?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (dZ756)

232 217
Can we get AOSHQ "Let. It. Burn." t-shirts?


Should a flaming skull be on the shirt, or would that confuse the meaning of the message?

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2012 02:17 PM (vjyZP)

233 168 An Occupy Hollywood "mostly-peaceful" protest would be amazing.



We can take shits on limousines.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:09 PM (YSkOI)


Especially the fleets of them headed off to global warming conferences

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:17 PM (1Jaio)

234 I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.

Rape tax.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at November 09, 2012 02:17 PM (2Oas0)

235 Boycotting them is more in line with capitalist principles.

Taxes are the lifeblood of big government. We don't want to enable more runaway growth and spending just to spite those oblivious, self awareness-ly challenged hollyweird pricks.

Fuck both entities by starving them to death.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 09, 2012 02:17 PM (aZ6ew)

236 >>Rush wants Mitt to be put in a position in Obama's cabinet to help with commerce/jobs

And what on earth makes Rush think Mitt would be stupid enough to:

a. Tie himself to the disastrous Obama administration or
b. Accept a job where he is in a position to accept all the blame for poor economic recovery but no ability to actually alter anything?

The President has already completely ignored the report he personally commissioned to address these economic issues; why is he going to let Romney do for him what he won't do himself?

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:17 PM (6Q9g2)

237
I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.


Chivas Regal tax.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)

238 re: "Yes, I'm in favor of taxing the people who say they most wish to be taxed. I take them at their word."

If so, check the polls that ask if "Americans" are "undertaxed," burrow through the tabs and single out the groups that are majority-"yes."

Then propose the "everyone but broke-to-lower-middle-class white dudes and ghetto brothers" tax that fits the data.

Or maybe, since that's unpalatable (isn't it?), set people's tax rate at their demographic's expressed desire for increased taxation? Yours, educated single urban professional, would be about 90%. And so would mine.

Let's roll.

Posted by: oblig. at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (cePv8)

239
Pass the TAB tax. Now.

Tampon tax
Abortion tax
Bigbird tax


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (PHb2k)

240 I must tax you.

Posted by: Ivan Drago at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (Ks4nX)

241 232 217
Can we get AOSHQ "Let. It. Burn." t-shirts?

Should a flaming skull be on the shirt, or would that confuse the meaning of the message?

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Anyone else got a sudden urge to turn on "Burn The Earth" by Dethklok?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (e0xKF)

242 Can we also tax the mandatory condoms LA now says must be used in porn movies?Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 01:51 PM

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Watch for it. The porn industry will be moving to Chicago.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (xZZ44)

243 Taxes are the lifeblood of big government. We don't want to enable more
runaway growth and spending just to spite those oblivious, self
awareness-ly challenged hollyweird pricks.


What makes you think any real money is going to start flowing to the gov? They will figure out new ways to hide or make a lot less money to avoid it.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)

244 Use the Tax, Luke.

Posted by: Obi-Wan Kenobi at November 09, 2012 02:19 PM (YSkOI)

245 Turnabout is fair play.

We must abandon the "taxpayer protection pledge."

The left has been using the state to as a tool against us. We must return the favor.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 09, 2012 02:19 PM (sZTYJ)

246 218
I would think MLB players skew conservative. After all, a large
percentage are Hispanic. And Hispanics tend to be naturally hard working
and conservative, so I hear.

Posted by: yinzer

When you make star $, you can afford your left-wing politics.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 09, 2012 02:19 PM (dZ756)

247 225
Secede! Let THEM burn.



Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (xZZ44)



Hear, hear!



The Constitutional Union of American States.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:16 PM (X3lox)

I think it's already started. The Right has always been so damned compliant. We just go along. Never have had the seething anger of the Left. Maybe a touch of rebellion is what is called for in these times. It's amorphous right now, but if not squelched by the Kumbiya crown, it will jell.























Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 02:19 PM (BoE3Z)

248 Yeah, because Hollywood actors would never become shrewd followers of the law and spread their compensation out over an entire year or more...

Posted by: NotCoach at November 09, 2012 02:19 PM (rsudF)

249 Let it burn===========> bring on the flamethrowers!


I am on record as being pro-flamethrower.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 02:19 PM (VtjlW)

250 @24

Don't hate on Usher, he came up with my "Let. It. Burn." philosophy. Truly a great thinker.

Posted by: JDTAY at November 09, 2012 02:20 PM (a0nis)

251 A Leaving California tax please.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (PHb2k)


California, itself, is ahead of you, there. They've been pushing for an exit wealth tax for some time, as all leftists are wont to do. if there's anything a leftist hates it's someone choosing to leave their grip.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:20 PM (X3lox)

252
You see this fucking tax?!

I'm going to teach you math with this fucking tax!

Posted by: Bill the Butcher at November 09, 2012 02:20 PM (YSkOI)

253 By Jove I think the boy has got it!

Also, a bill to tax anyone who uses his or her favorable tax treatment as a pretext for a call to raise the tax of another person.

I call it "the Warren Buffet Rule."

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 09, 2012 02:20 PM (mg08E)

254 #241

Go for it:
http://tinyurl.com/323w4ft

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:20 PM (PwGfd)

255 I propose the 99% Will.I.Am Tax.

Posted by: cajun carrot of the carebare electorate at November 09, 2012 02:20 PM (UZQM8)

256 Don't you find it interesting that these liberal, you must pay more are cashing out.

Lucas sold his company for billions, NOW, avoiding the new capital gains taxes and the income tax.

Wouldn't think he would wait till next year to pay more?

FUCKING HYPOCRITES

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (wR+pz)

257 Can we also double the tax on any Nicholas Sparks book-turned-to-movie? I'd like to see those responsible punished for making watch this drivel just to get laid...

Posted by: Astronaut Achmed at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (YLZSZ)

258 I cannot believe Mitt would accept any job offer from Barky.

This is just Barky "I Won" pissing all over Mitt, and laughing about it.

Posted by: Boots at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (neKzn)

259 251 A Leaving California tax please.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (PHb2k)

California, itself, is ahead of you, there. They've been pushing for an exit wealth tax for some time, as all leftists are wont to do. if there's anything a leftist hates it's someone choosing to leave their grip.

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There is, ah, a $500 Leaving Town Tax.

Posted by: Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (e0xKF)

260 Tax money from trust funds as it is withdrawn at 50%.

For the children.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (QMRMM)

261 >>Anyone else got a sudden urge to turn on "Burn The Earth" by Dethklok?

Well, I do NOW.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (CMbMd)

262 Put an end to the never ending, always increasing copyrights BS.


You mean the Disney laws?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (VtjlW)

263 Sin taxes aught to be limited to 10%...15% on weed.

Posted by: sTevo at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (vGVmk)

264

Put me in the hospital for nerves
And then they had to commit me
You told them all I was crazy
They cut off my legs now I'm an amputee, goddamn you

I'm not sick but I'm not well
And I'm so hot cause i'm in hell
I'm not sick but I'm not well

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (jUytm)

265 >>>Taxes are the lifeblood of big government. We don't want to enable more

runaway growth and spending just to spite those oblivious, self

awareness-ly challenged hollyweird pricks.

Oh they could never squeeze enough money to actually make a difference. The more you squeeze, the less you get in the long run anyway. Most folks know that.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:21 PM (0q2P7)

266 Here's the problem with that: it's the right thing to do, and "right" lost on Tuesday.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 02:14 PM (FcR7P)

That is why I said Art V convention. We can fix the Judiciary at the same time.

Posted by: Vic at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (YdQQY)

267

No, this is EXACTLY the right idea. We can't win on plrocedural arguments about proper ideology (yawn).

OK, so fuck em. Demagogue that shit. Show Ashton's little semi he drives around in. Show the diamond cigarette that what's-her-whore smoked. Gin up envy and anger at the leisured classes.

At least conservatives largely work for their money. These goofs just get it handed to them in buckets.

Tax their asses into oblivion. We will never get a flat tax, it's just too easy to demagogue. The middle class will never give up its deductions. Let's start hammering our enemies instead.

Turn about is fair play.

Posted by: imp at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (UaxA0)

268 208
Eliminate all deductions for charity. Most charities are leftist scams anyway.



"Tax charities. Most charities are leftist scams anyway."


Fuck that!

Boys Scouts of America


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (wR+pz)

269 I look forward to a porn starlet named Sandy Vagina when they move to Nevada.
Didn't she just squirt on New Jersey?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (nkiQM)

270 Taxes...why did it have to be taxes?

Posted by: Indiana Jones at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (YSkOI)

271 "California, itself, is ahead of you, there. They've been pushing for an exit wealth tax for some time, as all leftists are wont to do. if there's anything a leftist hates it's someone choosing to leave their grip. "

That's outright serfdom. I suspect MA will pass a similar law soon.

The Supreme Court will uphold it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (QMRMM)

272 The easiest way to do something like this is to just cut all exemptions/deductions, period. Get rid of the option to be creative on tax forms. Most people get very few exemptions or deductions.

Maybe an exemption for being a human being (thus, children as well). But I'm not sure about that.

It's only fair.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (FvJAY)

273 Director: We're shutting down production.
Assistant: Yeah, well, we only have $1,000 left anyway.
Mayor Quimby: Uh, there's a $1,000 leaving town tax

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (ma/2m)

274 hell at this point tax anything over a million at 74 % (fairer than France)just like Obama's father wanted.

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (hX8cq)

275 F off, Ace. It takes more than 10 years to break into this industry. That's 10 years investment of hardcore starving-style in-your-face rejection entrepreneurship.


Posted by: John the Libertarian at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (oshol)

276

Apparently the
movies industry is the only one that gets to totally write-off the huge
salaries. Change this first.

It appears almost
half of voters, (plus 100 % of the fake ones (see Philly and Cleveland turnout)) will not understand
the implications of Obama's policies until the country is actually on the rocks
completely. If Boehner had any sense he
would do what he should have done in the first term, say "Obama won, he
can have what he wants in the way of tax increases) and then let economy tank and
the deficit bloom. Otherwise Obama will
claim it's the 10 % of the agenda he didn't get passed that caused the problem. Make President A$$hole own it.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (VLifP)

277 Taxes are the lifeblood of big government. We don't want to enable more runaway growth and spending just to spite those oblivious, self awareness-ly challenged hollyweird pricks.

But, as we also know, raising taxes means decreased revenue. Starve the beast by giving it what it wants. Instead of robust meat and potatoes revenue from low taxation, let's feed the government a bunch of empty calorie tax increases that'll kill it like a steady diet of Twinkies and root beer.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (4df7R)

278 If this was seriously proposed watch how fast Hanks, Speilberg, Harvey Weinstein, Ron Howard, Eva Longoria, etc. would be screaming against it.

And while we're at it let's not stop at Hollywood, the rest of the "entertainment" industry should pay its "fair share" too. I'm looking at you Jay Z, Bec*ntsay, Bruce Shitstain etc.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (1Jaio)

279 I like the new beat them at their own class warfare schtick. If we're going to have it, no half measures. Give the American public both barrels.

As far as Kennedy trusts: tax increases on every new generation that takes advantage of "original" wealth in the form of trusts or other family wealth by a factor of two. Sorry great grandson Kennedy, you have to start over.

Give these turds what they want.

Posted by: Flounder at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (Kkt/i)

280


Taxes are the lifeblood of big government. We don't want to enable more



Fuck if I don't. Obviously you're not clear on the LET IT BURN concept.

Posted by: imp at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (UaxA0)

281 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their
own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like? I got that right?


Yeah, some real fucking Gary Coopers around here. They will fight to the death for their ideals, unless of course there is a setback along the way, in which case they will whine like pussies and demand to be shot in the face just to teach somebody a lesson.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (+lsX1)

282 I want a 100% tax on birth control.

You pay $20 bucks, the government gets 10 and you pay 10, it's fair, it's fair.

Posted by: Caustic at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (/b8+5)

283 Throw in a tax on miniature poodles and rehab. I'm in.

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (wAQA5)

284 >>>273 Director: We're shutting down production.
Assistant: Yeah, well, we only have $1,000 left anyway.
Mayor Quimby: Uh, there's a $1,000 leaving town tax

F*ck, beat me to it (was actually looking up that exact quote)

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:24 PM (YSkOI)

285 let's feed the government a bunch of empty calorie tax increases that'll kill it like a steady diet of Twinkies and root beer.

Ahhh...the moron buffet!

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:24 PM (GQ8sn)

286 260
Tax money from trust funds as it is withdrawn at 50%.



For the children.



You need a new accountant. So wrong. Where to start?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 02:24 PM (wR+pz)

287 Burn it down.

My fondest wish right now is to make tax exiles out of Springsteen, Jay-Z and Clooney.

Restore the Carter era 70% rate. No deductions. N.O.N.E.
Everyone files on a 1040EZ.
Including Bruce Springsteen.
Especially Brice Springsteen.

Change the paradigm.

All income tax returns shall be deemed public records. Available to review on-line. Bruce Springsteen's. Oprah's. Warren Buffet's. Everyone's.

Before an "artist" is allowed to make a movie in this country or sell a song on-line you have to post a bond as security against future taxes. Million ought to do it.

And tax wealth too.

Burn it down. It's only fair.

Posted by: History reader at November 09, 2012 02:24 PM (u3N3z)

288 Never thought I'd be saying this but I bet a hitler parody of mitt would be helpful

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 02:24 PM (WdmOH)

289 Gauging by this blog and the responses, right-wingers are finally coming around and realizing that Oliver Wendell Holmes was correct when he said that "Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society." You can't live your Peter Pan lifestyles without expecting that somewhere, somehow, the deficit has to be filled up one way or another. All of these tax proposals are a welcome sight, showing that the conservative movement is finally getting real.

Looks like Obama's reelection has been a success.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:24 PM (fEpBa)

290
Yep, that Warren Buffet tax evasion scam pretending to be a charity?

TAX THAT FUCKER.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (PHb2k)

291 let's feed the government a bunch of empty calorie tax increases that'll kill it like a steady diet of Twinkies and root beer.

Ahhh...the moron buffet!


Needs moar Val-U-Rite and bacon.

Posted by: Armando at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (5iuEW)

292 Yeah.

That'll happen.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (UK9cE)

293 Looks like only Obama could get the right to embrace new taxes.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (fEpBa)

294 275 John the Libertarian,

yeah well sorry about the eggs needing broke falling on your head...

My wife gave 15 years of service and had plenty say 'fuck her we need cuts now."

Okay let the whole house of cards implode.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (LRFds)

295 BTW, if ace's tax were implemented movies would all take longer. None of this stuff works if course. You have to go all out and tax large profits of any kind. It's just surplus value stolen from the people. And camps, lots of camps.

Posted by: Pollution-Based Life Form at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (sOtz/)

296 Watch for it. The porn industry will be moving to Chicago.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:18 PM (xZZ44)



They don't want to come here to dodge bullets all day. Besides, Rahm might demand nothing but midget pron movies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (1Jaio)

297 Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere come the Trolls!!!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (da5Wo)

298


The easiest way to do something like this is to just cut all
exemptions/deductions, period. Get rid of the option to be creative on
tax forms. Most people get very few exemptions or deductions.




Why do you think Romney lost working class whites. They will not give up their deductions so some rich fucker (i.e. me and may of the morons here) can get a high end break. Now, making it a million will easily spare me for years to come. So I'm not gambling with my own flesh, but still, it hits who we want to hit.

We must out-demagogue them.

Posted by: imp at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (UaxA0)

299 Yeah, some real fucking Gary Coopers around here. They will fight to the death for their ideals, unless of course there is a setback along the way, in which case they will whine like pussies and demand to be shot in the face just to teach somebody a lesson.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 09, 2012 02:23 PM (+lsX1)

How in the heck are people supposed to learn our principles that you can't put in a soundbite unless we allow Obama to fail?

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (i3OIF)

300 Besides, Rahm might demand nothing but midget pron movies

I did see a midget hooker while in Vegas.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (GQ8sn)

301 >>>F off, Ace. It takes more than 10 years to break into this industry.
That's 10 years investment of hardcore starving-style in-your-face
rejection entrepreneurship.

A week ago I would have soooo totally agreed with you. But I have been enlightened. I have seen the great truth, you didn't build that. So since is just fell in your lap provided by others, it is only fair to tax it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (0q2P7)

302 289 marxist fucking retard,

I don't need a society so fucking invasive I pay for a law degree cunt's birth control.

I paid for it happily when young.

Fuck you.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (LRFds)

303 Just gonna stand here and watch it burn
But that's alright because I didn't vote for the SCOAMF
Just gonna stand here and hear them cry
But that's alright because they loved the way he lied
They loved the way he lied
They loved the way he lied

Posted by: Bizarro Rihanna at November 09, 2012 02:26 PM (5iuEW)

304 Your silly fantasies are funny. Does this goofy nonsense make you feel better after your crushing defeat?


Actually, sweetie, the chocolate and the porn do it for me.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (VtjlW)

305 "Watch for it. The porn industry will be moving to Chicago."

ewww. but, i guess Rule 34.

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (ma/2m)

306 If we increase taxes on Hollywood productions using dogs, Ace may never watch Person of Interest again.

Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (w4fEE)

307 @235

Maybe you didn't see the post where there has never been a film that has actually made money.

We propose these not in an effort to actually hurt these bastards, that would be alright as well, but to see them spinning circles to say why they shouldn't be taxed more.

The Laffer curve obtains even for money raised by taxing Hollywierd!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (06lNq)

308 @289 Silenus

Go choke on something black and barbed.

Posted by: JDTAY at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (a0nis)

309 I'd call it a "tangible item" tax. If your income is derived from something that really has no tangible value, like entertainment or sports, you pay an extra tax. Someone who produces things that are useful to society would be exempt.
They want their taxes raised? They won. Give it to 'em.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (YmPwQ)

310
Mr Gristle is r-r-r-r-r-


ight.

It sickens me to say so, but it's true. This exercise in futility is embarrassing.



Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (jUytm)

311 >>>That's 10 years investment of hardcore starving-style in-your-face

rejection entrepreneurship.

Oh I get it, you think you've worked hard? Well let me tell you, there are a lot of hard working people out there.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (0q2P7)

312 They don't want to come here to dodge bullets all day.

Depends on what those "bullets" are made of...

Posted by: Armando at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (5iuEW)

313 82
This will mainly work if you live in LA, NYC or Aspen, places where
celebs live or congregate...but heckle them when you see them and how
much they're paying. Especially Springsteen.

Posted by: Who Knows at November 09, 2012 01:58 PM

LEAVE BRUUUUCE ALLLLOOOOOOONNNNE !!!!

Posted by: Chris Christie at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (wwsoB)

314 o says we've tried the failed policies of the past so let's do new stuff like he says

LIB

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (WdmOH)

315 14
So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their
own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like? I got that right?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 01:50 PM (da5Wo)
In case you missed it. We lost. The takers outnumber the makers at the polls. It's time to convince a healthy majority the errors of their ways.
In all out war, nothing is out of bounds.

Posted by: Flounder at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (Kkt/i)

316 Actually, sweetie, the chocolate and the porn do it for me.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming not nearly soon enough. at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (VtjlW)


Speaking of which, did you ever manage to get plugged into that power station?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (da5Wo)

317 okay, this is a start

but what's Plan B?

LET IT BURN & CRASH TO THE GROUND & they rebuild it

Posted by: Evilpens at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (ck76k)

318 #278

What you'd see is exactly the same sorts of ads you see at the beginning of movies, showing the poor grips, gaffers, fluffers, and other movie crew who are hurting because of rampant internet movie piracy.

Suddenly, its not about the rich guys being overtaxed, its about hurting the poor working class who struggle every day to bring us our movies.

Personally, I don't need tax INCREASES for hypocritical hollywood lefties. Lets give them. . .and everyone else at the top brackets. . .tax BREAKS by flattening the tax curve and limiting deductions.

Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (6Q9g2)

319 "I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though. "___
Date rape tax.

Waitress sandwich tax.

Posted by: kallisto at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (jm/9g)

320 We must out-demagogue them.

You'll need to make tax lawyers illegal first. As long as we have a complicated system of exemptions, deductions, and credits, the people you're targeting will still slide by.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (FvJAY)

321 So run, you curs.

Tell all the curs that I'm coming.

You tell 'em I'm coming! And taxes are coming with me you hear?!

TAXES ARE COMING WITH ME!

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (YSkOI)

322 Needs moar Val-U-Rite and bacon.
Posted by: Armando at November 09, 2012 02:25 PM (5iuEW)


The Moron buffet does, yes. But DC gets NO bacon. They don't deserve it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (4df7R)

323 Fuck that!

Boys Scouts of America


Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (wR+pz)

Oh goody, a non-profit organization that was setup to teach skills and values (even some pesky moral ones we seem to hate now) that is now being destroyed by the President.

And that's not even considering what they've done to the Girl Scouts.

If you want to teach your son how to make a fire or camp in the woods, we can do it ourselves.

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (i3OIF)

324 OCCUPY HOLLYWOOD!

Make the 1% of 1% pay their fair share!

Seriously, how can thedouches at MSNBC not be for this proposal?

Posted by: Some1 at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (cSlKk)

325 Speaking of which, did you ever manage to get plugged into that power station?

What do you think all those generators in NJ, NY are for?

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (GQ8sn)

326 Anyone that thinks this will ever happen is more fucked than the assholes that pulled the lever (like anyone actually does that anymore) for Commander Clusterfuck.


IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN.

THEY are the protected class. DEMOCRATS will NEVER touch them. Republicans will never touch them because THEY ARE AFRAID.


We. Are. Toast.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (UK9cE)

327 @sven10077 and @JDTAY - what's the matter? I thought your lot were clamoring for more taxes in this thread? Go ahead and tax the Hollywood rich and the limousine liberals. Fill up the deficit this way. Why not? The fire rises, brothers.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (fEpBa)

328 No such proposal will ever come to a vote in the currentSenate,and even if it somehow did,it would never be signed by the current President.

As a means for the House tohassle these dicks and force the Democrats to turn it down in front of the world, it's fine. But, Boehner. Until that weeping orange surrender monkey goes, it would not even come to a symbolic vote in the House. Not to mention the rest of the uselessGOP leadership currently stumbling about in a panic and stepping on their own dicks as they propose amnesty, 'bipartisanship,' UFO research grants, mass cock-sucking, blah blah blah whatever.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (w41GQ)

329 281
So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their

own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we

don't like? I got that right?

Yeah, some real fucking
Gary Coopers around here. They will fight to the death for their ideals,
unless of course there is a setback along the way, in which case they
will whine like pussies and demand to be shot in the face just to teach
somebody a lesson.


Posted by: Gristle Encased Head

***

What happened Tuesday is a "set back" only in the same sense that swinging from the end of a rope is setback. This is an entirely new world. Wake up.

Posted by: History reader at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (u3N3z)

330 I would like to see Andrea Mitchell, Chris Matthews, and Brian Williams pay their "fair share" as well.

Posted by: 80sBaby at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (YjDyJ)

331 The Boy Scouts might be a righty organization, but the news is coming to light that they have their own little pedo scandal from the past, same as the priests. And it was covered up. What a surprise.

The Girl Scouts are a full on left group of commies. They stopped being a service organization a long time ago, they're now run by disgruntled feminists who are a bunch of rent-seeking commies. They couldn't care less about serving actual little girls, they've started all sorts of Girl Scout programs to serve women in prisons. I'm not kidding. There's govt money to be had in running programs in prisons.



Posted by: Boots at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (neKzn)

332
the production shoot for a tv show is longer i think,we have to nail them too.

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (AW9md)

333 292; No, but your name starts with Anal... I like anal, especially yours.

Posted by: dee dee ramone at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (UdPlZ)

334 To add, the problem with out-demagoging them is that they don't want to increase the tax on the people they claim they're targeting. There's no money there.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (FvJAY)

335 TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX
TAX TAX TAX TAX TAX

EVERYYYBOOODDDYYYYYY!!!!!!!




Posted by: Little Jon & LMFAO at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (VTXt1)

336 @sven10077 lol Oliver Wendell Holmes was a Supreme Court Justice, not some law student girl. Way to inject non sequiturs into the discourse.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:30 PM (fEpBa)

337 >>You pay $20 bucks, the government gets 10 and you pay 10, it's fair, it's fair.

Heck, with my current dry spell, I don't have to worry about this.

Posted by: LibertarianJim at November 09, 2012 02:30 PM (CMbMd)

338
showing that the conservative movement is finally getting real.

We're getting real alright. We're getting real good at understanding if people want to vote to raise taxes on other people and used to benefit themselves, we can make sure they understand that policy.

*imposes a registered democrat tax*

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:30 PM (PHb2k)

339 WWBD?

What Would Breitbart Do?

Enough grief and whining. Take action.

The Left keeps telling us "The Personal is Political." Fine ... Game On.

I'd like to see it extent to not just boycotts and specialized taxes. Everything we can. Chris Mathews wants a caterer to bring him two Extra-Large porker sandwiches. No deal. Andrew Sullivan wants an extra-frothy Latte. No deal. I mean let's be strategic. If you need to do some business, that's understandable. The goal is to hurt them, not us. And no press release asking these companies to repent. All you get is some PR flack trying to mollify us and wasting time and damping down the fire. Look if you advertise on MSNBC, you know what you're doing. End of story. After a few go Newsweek, the others will catch on.

While we have been playing Marquis of Queensbury rules in the political realm, they have been fighting us in the Culture. We can't do that anymore.

Like they said in the original Red Dawn "Turn that grief into something else."

Posted by: calbadger at November 09, 2012 02:30 PM (TaWQc)

340 No, Obama won't let his fan base be punished this way. But it would be a fine way to outline his lies and hypocrisy.


Going after their shady financing is unfortunately a Treasury function, though we can make people aware. Maybe through an indie film like 2016 or Atlas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's mobile at November 09, 2012 02:30 PM (DYWM0)

341 No, this is EXACTLY the right idea. We can't win on plrocedural arguments about proper ideology (yawn). OK, so fuck em. Demagogue that shit. Show Ashton's little semi he drives around in. Show the diamond cigarette that what's-her-whore smoked. Gin up envy and anger at the leisured classes. At least conservatives largely work for their money. These goofs just get it handed to them in buckets. Tax their asses into oblivion. We will never get a flat tax, it's just too easy to demagogue. The middle class will never give up its deductions. Let's start hammering our enemies instead.Turn about is fair play.
Posted by: imp at November 09, 2012 02:22 PM (UaxA0)


---------------------------------------

As warm and sticky as this idea is, it's still class warfare and I won't participate. I do agree that Hollywood needs to be taxed at the same rate as anyone else, but I'm not going to begrudge anyone who's made money by good marketing. The reason some stars get unheard of salaries is because there's a high demand for their acting, boobs, ass, etc.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (xZZ44)

342 Oh I get it, you think you've worked hard? Well let me tell you, there are a lot of hard working people out there.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:27 PM (0q2P7)

High five your way.

The entertainment industry needs to be reformed or destroyed. They have polluted our culture into being Obamabots.

When movies like TED make 100's of millions of dollars, the industry needs to be gutted by taxation.

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (i3OIF)

343 http://tinyurl.com/aw4t43r

Justice department working hard to promote minority-owned business.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (rzTDZ)

344 LET IT BURN CRASH TO THE GROUND they rebuild it

Posted by: Evilpens at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (ck76k)



They're doing a hell of a job of it in New York and New Jersey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (1Jaio)

345 @Guy Mohawk

That's fair, and commendable. Please do so. This is how a just society should work. Limousine liberals should not pay any less. I applaud your egalitarianism.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (fEpBa)

346 14 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we don't like? I got that right?
------------------------------------

The American people have spoken.

Embrace the suck.

Posted by: Pyro Pete at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (3p/jD)

347 Since Choom Boy is babbling some shit about "a majority of Americans" agreeing with him, I propose the Majority of Americans Tax.

Everyone who voted for the traitor is now obligated to pay enough tax to a) make up the deficit each year we have to suffer under Obama and b) wipe out the massive debt he is responsible for.

It's that simple. There is no fixed rate. Just take the $1.5 trillion from this year and divide it by the number of Obama voters. Each one, including the illegals, dead people and foreigners, is on the hook for an equal percentage of the total. Then do the math again for the $4 trillion he has racked up.

Equality, baby!

Posted by: MrScribbler, banned at TepidAir at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (yKUrR)

348
We can vent all we want here, but in actuality, the tax code, as other have said, is a weapon. Politically favored groups, like Hollywood and Wall Street will be taken care of. That is an essential part of Statism. Case in point, Moonbeam is giving tax breaks to the Holywood to keep production in state. Every other citizen and business..... higher taxes.
A flat tax on all income, no decuctions, no credits,would do a lot towake up the 47%. I keep hearing Obama talk about "fairness" and "skin in the game". Let's make everycitizen a tax payer and then we can see how popular entitlements are.
Socialism is great as long as someone else is paying for it.

Posted by: California Red at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (icSBv)

349 You'll need to make tax lawyers illegal first. As long as we have a complicated system of exemptions, deductions, and credits, the people you're targeting will still slide by.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 09, 2012 02:28 PM (FvJAY)


Then get rid of them. Get rid of the exemptions, deductions and credits and then hike the rates, too. I'm past giving a fuck at this point.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (4df7R)

350 A Leaving California tax please.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:15 PM (PHb2k)


Also, I would add the feral government enforces a reasonable facsimile of an exit tax with its legal harrassment of manufacturers who tried to open up plants outside of california in non-union states. i can't remember the name of the company that the labor department sued to stop them from opening new production on the East Coast instead of California ... so many criminal actions by this administration that I can't even recall all of them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (X3lox)

351 I'd tax Eva Longoria's moneymaker 100%.

Posted by: Fritz at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (0yCoM)

352 I say let Obama raise taxes on the 1%. The American people should see EXACTLY what their vote brings them. Save the fight for making Obamacare fiscally unsustainable (won't be hard) so the system comes crashing down. Hang it around their necks and strangle them with it. The Chicago crowd isn't the only one that can take advantage of a crisis.

We're insurgents now--have to start acting it. Screw LOAC. Insurgents usually goad conventional ground troops in a heavy use of force with more collateral damage to turn the population against them.

Posted by: msmulan at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (vSWyU)

353 327 Marxist fuckhole,

I am a tax pro who has always strove to get people to pay the legal minimum.

You convinced me fuckhead.

I may go work for the IRS I've had job offers before.

Let it burn and IRS has matches.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:32 PM (LRFds)

354
okay, to recap

these are the lessons we learned from Tuesday

--fuck you, so-cons
--pander to hispanics
--don't pander to hispanics
--no more RINOS
--Let It Burn
--Tax Everyone

It's look like we have it all covered. We truly are the big tent party.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (jUytm)

355 I'm all for these ideas. It's all going to burn down anyway. Lets just get on with it.

Eliminate all deductions of any kind. Allow the AMT to expand. It hits blue states hardest anyway. No deductions for any entertainment business. Tax the hell out of Hollywood.

It would work. As soon as you heard Hollywood complaining you would know it worked.

Posted by: JBS at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (t4T2r)

356
THEY are the protected class. DEMOCRATS will NEVER touch them. Republicans will never touch them because THEY ARE AFRAID.

We. Are. Toast.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (UK9cE)

But I saw them pledge on TEEVEE... they CAAAAAARE about me.

Posted by: cajun carrot of the carebare electorate at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (UZQM8)

357 We know 8 million people voted for a judge in a state with a population of 3.7 million people. Almost all of the blue counties in Colorado were voting at 110-140% of population. Our electoral college will not work if we do not make it work. The electorate has had their vote stolen. We fix this, or our country will die. I know, strong words. Truer words cannot be spoken about our country in this day. We depend on our party leaders to do the right thing. We depend on these people to bring the issues to court, make the recounts happen. Get Mitt Romney in office! It's not over until the elector college, unless the RNC has given up.

Posted by: Mary Brem at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (xPhDT)

358 You people are missing the point.

If we steal SCOAMF's golf clubs and cut off his ESPN, the dipshit will pull up stakes, vacate the WH, and head to Hawaii inside of 2 weeks.

He'd prolly leave Mooseshill, Malaria and Shasta behind. They're just prop affectations like a beard and sideburns anyway.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (aZ6ew)

359 Tax wealth instead of real income. Anyone with over x
amount in the bank tax all of their investments at 40%. Actually Obama
has put this forward at 30% so take him up on it. Say hey Preezy that's a
great idea, we like it so much we will make it 40%. The stock market
will tank, layoffs will skyrocket but so what. Let the people see what
the fuck they voted for. Let those in Hollywood and Wallstreet feel the
burn.


It's going to burn anyways, might as well get it over with.

Posted by: robtr at November 09, 2012 01:54 PM (rTgOf)

Yep. Time to take the training wheels off this pig.

Posted by: Flounder at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (Kkt/i)

360 While we're on the subject of Hollywood, let's drive elective plastic surgery under ObamaCare's rubric. If some little girl needs reconstructive surgery for a car accident, then Cher can fucking sit her ass in the lobby and take a number for her yearly tune-up.

Posted by: B at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (11H3F)

361 It takes more than 10 years to break into this industry. That's 10
years investment of hardcore starving-style in-your-face rejection
entrepreneurship.


Yes, breaking into the movie business takes about 10 years of receiving hard core facials from greasy "producers". We feel your pain.

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (vjyZP)

362
It's look like we have it all covered. We truly are the big tent party.
Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (jUytm)

You forgot free shit...

Posted by: cajun carrot of the carebare electorate at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (UZQM8)

363 that cocksucking cocksucker that sucks cock.


Posted by: The Q at November 09, 2012 02:00 PM




Not descriptive enough. lol

Posted by: Berserker at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (FMbng)

364
As warm and sticky as this idea is, it's still
class warfare and I won't participate. I do agree that Hollywood needs
to be taxed at the same rate as anyone else, but I'm not going to
begrudge anyone who's made money by good marketing. The reason some
stars get unheard of salaries is because there's a high demand for their
acting, boobs, ass, etc.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (xZZ44)


But they ASKED to pay higher taxes. We're just giving them what they asked for.

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (X6akg)

365 The Boy Scouts might be a righty organization, but the news is coming to light that they have their own little pedo scandal from the past, same as the priests. And it was covered up. What a surprise. Posted by: Boots at November 09, 2012 02:29 PM (neKzn)

And guess what? Likely the scandal in the Boy Scouts happened for the same reason in the Catholic Church, and it is not because the Church is outdated morally, but precisely because the people infiltrating the organization were immoral.

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (i3OIF)

366 @sven10077 - Sounds good, the IRS could always more people working for it. Just remember, as per Dr. Mr. Badman's proposal here (http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=334811#c19655305), all U.S. officials are also in the tax bracket, so no loopholes here!

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (fEpBa)

367 >>>unless of course there is a setback along the way, in which case they
will whine like pussies and demand to be shot in the face just to teach
somebody a lesson.


Oh I recognize the setback, and apparently unlike you I'm not making it into a smaller problem than what it is. This has gone from a 4 year project to a 20 year and longer project of shifting the electorate and reinvigorating our values across the us. We are going to suck hind tit for a while. And I'm prepared for that.

I think the worst thing we could do right now is shield the US from the decision she's made. Harsh reality is the quickest way in my opinion to get the electorate to seriously reconsider. Harsh reality is the only way to show a leisure populous the need for and value of virtue. Harsh reality is now our friend and greatest advocate.

Let.It.Burn

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:35 PM (0q2P7)

368 Also, I would add the feral government enforces a reasonable facsimile of an exit tax with its legal harrassment of manufacturers who tried to open up plants outside of california in non-union states. i can't remember the name of the company that the labor department sued to stop them from opening new production on the East Coast instead of California ... so many criminal actions by this administration that I can't even recall all of them.

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Not sure about Cali, but Seattle-based Boeing got fucked by the NLRB when they tried to open a plant in South Carolina, which is Right To Work.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:35 PM (e0xKF)

369 We know 8 million people voted for a judge in a state with a population of 3.7 million people.

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Wait....what?! You have a link for this?

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (X6akg)

370 Hey Lizzie, Ruth Buzzi called and she wants her hairstyle back

Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (wwsoB)

371
I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though.


Alcohol and "adult entertainment" tax

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (AW9md)

372 Of course no such taxation will ever happen.
Limousine Liberals have their masters in power. It's an unholy alliance. We are just venting some hatred for them here - The troika of Democrat government, Media, and government Education. The ones responsible for the turning of America. Right now we are venting hatred for Media - specifically the Entertainment media.
It's good catharsis.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (BoE3Z)

373 Fill up the deficit this way.

You do realize that, unlike you, none of us is actually foolish enough to believe that this will do fuck-all to address the deficit?

It's about getting the Left to choke and die on their own rhetoric.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (XMaKL)

374 I think the worst thing we could do right now is shield the US from the decision she's made. Harsh reality is the quickest way in my opinion to get the electorate to seriously reconsider. Harsh reality is the only way to show a leisure populous the need for and value of virtue. Harsh reality is now our friend and greatest advocate.

Slap that on a t-shirt and I would buy it in a heartbeat.

And I'd buy it with cash, so you wouldn't have to declare the income.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (4df7R)

375 >>So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their
own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we
don't like? I got that right?

Look at it this way: When you catch your young kid smoking his first cigarette, you put him in a small room with a carton and tell him he can't leave until he smokes 'em all or pukes.

Now, you do that not because you want him to embrace smoking. You do it to make the very thought of smoking repulsive.

Hollywood and the liberal rich are like the woman on moving day. She stands arms-crossed as the movers break their back moving the couch to one side of the room to the other and back. Make her move the couch herself, with her own strength and sweat, and she decides where the couch is going to be, and stay, real quick.

Posted by: angler at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (SwjAj)

376 Alcohol and "adult entertainment" tax>>

A waitress sandwich tax.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (tf9Ne)

377 We're enablers. Sometimes you have to let the one you love hit rock bottom. Only then will they accept your help and guidance.

Posted by: DCPensFan at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (ma/2m)

378
We're all having fun here, but I am serious, I want the Repub House to pass these billionaire taxes, these entertainer taxes, etc. They should take many of the suggestions here and put it in a bill.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (PHb2k)

379 As warm and sticky as this idea is, it's still

class warfare and I won't participate. I do agree that Hollywood needs

to be taxed at the same rate as anyone else, but I'm not going to

begrudge anyone who's made money by good marketing. The reason some

stars get unheard of salaries is because there's a high demand for their

acting, boobs, ass, etc.



Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (xZZ44)


Sorry to be rude, but at this point Fuck You.

They FORCED this upon us with lies and propaganda and the sheeple took it hook, line and sinker.

ACTIONS. HAVE. CONSEQUENCES.


It's about fucking high time these ASSHOLES learned that fact.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (UK9cE)

380 366 Numbnuts,

Hey champ ain't a problem.

I pay my taxes have since I was 14.

I'm not some 25 year old at 23,000 who has never paid taxes.

Let it burn and I'll find every penny the Federales are OWED as a 'moral imperative."

I've seen this movie before....

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (LRFds)

381 It's look like we have it all covered. We truly are the big tent party.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM

How about only nominate "cool" candidates? Yo.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at November 09, 2012 02:38 PM (rzTDZ)

382

So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their

own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we

don't like? I got that right?

Yeah, some real fucking
Gary Coopers around here. They will fight to the death for their ideals,
unless of course there is a setback along the way, in which case they
will whine like pussies and demand to be shot in the face just to teach
somebody a lesson.


Yeah, that's fucking right. We will never, ever win with these honey boo boo fucktards able to vote. Burn the shit down. Sew division and discord. Start anew.

Posted by: imp at November 09, 2012 02:38 PM (UaxA0)

383 @372 - The Republican troika is most of Wall Street, the Religious Right, and the military-industrial complex. Instead of Romney, the GOP should have nominated a new Reagan or Bush who could satisfy all three triumvirs for a true battle royale against the Democrats. Hopefully 2016 will provide a more epic match.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:38 PM (fEpBa)

384
It takes more than 10 years to break into this industry.

are you serious? so those 22 year old actresses started when they were 12?

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (AW9md)

385 We're all having fun here, but I am serious, I want the Repub House to pass these billionaire taxes, these entertainer taxes, etc. They should take many of the suggestions here and put it in a bill.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (PHb2k)


Ditto. Who here at the HQ is best at wordsmithing? Let's get someone who's good with words to put all of these suggestions in a letter, all of us can sign it, and we send it to every single Republican in Congress. I'm dead serious about this.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (4df7R)

386 I don't know Ace, what you seem to be proposing sounds like 'legitimate rape' to me.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (feFL6)

387
Just want to let you know that we're intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

hahahahaha, just kidding!

brb, compromisin

Posted by: Boner & Cantor at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (jUytm)

388 Look at it this way: When you catch your young kid smoking his first
cigarette, you put him in a small room with a carton and tell him he
can't leave until he smokes 'em all or pukes.



Uhhhh...no. That's a stupid fucking idea. Sure you're teaching the kid a lesson. You're also needlessly hurting him. I come from a family of smokers and everyone of them said "I catch you smoking and I'm going to beat your ass." and they meant it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (da5Wo)

389 So instead of being the party that's for people keeping more of their

own money, we're now the party that advocates putatively taxing those we

don't like? I got that right?

_____________________________________

It's a mindfuck. Let's see how the bright lights who advocate raising taxes like to advocate for raising taxes when they and their industries become the targets.

When I was a kid, I was fascinated with smoking cigarettes. My mother had had it with men at one point, and made be take a long drag from one of her Marlboros. I never put another cigarette to my lips again.

Some lessons need to be felt to be learned.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (mg08E)

390 50-100% taxes on medical pumps, large bore stainless steel needles. 25% gross revenue tax on all neonatal facilities that do not perform deliveries. Also, steal from from the porn industry, on onsite federal health inspector at all abortions.

Posted by: gulfkraken at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (WBfjO)

391
As Levin said yesterday, Boehner is the only Speaker who can negotiate with himself and lose.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (jUytm)

392 Ditto. Who here at the HQ is best at wordsmithing?
Let's get someone who's good with words to put all of these suggestions
in a letter, all of us can sign it, and we send it to every single
Republican in Congress. I'm dead serious about this.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (4df7R)


You ain't no slouch at wordsmithing. Write it.....I'll send it to mine....not that it will do any good but.....

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (X6akg)

393 I think the worst thing we could do right now is shield the US from the decision she's made. Harsh reality is the quickest way in my opinion to get the electorate to seriously reconsider. Harsh reality is the only way to show a leisure populous the need for and value of virtue. Harsh reality is now our friend and greatest advocate. Slap that on a t-shirt and I would buy it in a heartbeat. And I'd buy it with cash, so you wouldn't have to declare the income.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at November 09, 2012 02:36 PM (4df7R)
That wouldn't fit on a t-shirt. But "Let it Burn" would.

Posted by: yinzer at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (/Mla1)

394 are you serious? so those 22 year old actresses started when they were 12?

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Given Hollywood's proclivities, they probably did. On the casting couch.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (e0xKF)

395 "It's about getting the Left to choke and die on their own rhetoric."

Two birds, one stone. The Dems live in an imaginary world where taxing is sufficient to cover deficits. The GOP live in a fantasy land where spending is all you need. Let the right embrace taxation of their ideological enemies while at the same time shrinking the deficit.

Full austerity, baby.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (fEpBa)

396 Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:31 PM (xZZ44)

And, I take it you completely ignored the fact that Hollywood studios get ALL KINDS of tax breaks and shit to produce the crap that they produce.

Might as well start voting Democrat if you're going to completely ignore the hypocrisy.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:41 PM (UK9cE)

397 383 - I have news for you - the military industrial complex is bi-partisan.

Posted by: tofer732 at November 09, 2012 02:41 PM (2zM0P)

398 are you serious? so those 22 year old actresses started when they were 12?

I'll suck your cock for a $1000.

Posted by: Brooke Shields at November 09, 2012 02:41 PM (GQ8sn)

399 are you serious? so those 22 year old actresses started when they were 12?



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Given Hollywood's proclivities, they probably did. On the casting couch.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at November 09, 2012 02:40 PM (e0xKF)

I like the cut of your jib. Might I subscribe to your newsletter?

Posted by: Roman Polanski at November 09, 2012 02:42 PM (UK9cE)

400 Posted by: Mary Brem at November 09, 2012 02:33 PM (xPhDT)

Fox news rolled over second after MSNBC

It's over. People are saying the republicans were aware of this, so no, you don't see any republicans up there fighting do you? Mitt couldn't wait to get out there to get this over with.

They want bush/chaney or chaney/bush in 2016, they gave up this one, only they didn't tell mitt until the last ten to fourteen days.

Posted by: Caustic at November 09, 2012 02:42 PM (/b8+5)

401 But they ASKED to pay higher taxes. We're just giving them what they asked for.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (X6akg)


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This would be a good project for Breitbart. Find out how much each of them would be willing to pay over what they're paying now, follow up after April 15th, freedom of information inquiry, and find out how much they actually paid. Then have an after-tax interview.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:42 PM (xZZ44)

402 I think the worst thing we could do right now is shield the US from the
decision she's made. Harsh reality is the quickest way in my opinion to
get the electorate to seriously reconsider. Harsh reality is the only
way to show a leisure populous the need for and value of virtue. Harsh
reality is now our friend and greatest advocate.


Yes, right. The teeming hordes of economic illiterates that didn't recognize incompetence this time around will definitely recognize it soon. This is why California has been able to make such a miraculous turnaround. The electorate could see employers and wealth fleeing the state. They could see the infrastructure and services crumbling. They see cities filing for bankruptcy. Harsh reality has triumphed!

Your prescription for the country is stupid. This place sounds like a pre-menstrual HuffPost lately.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at November 09, 2012 02:42 PM (+lsX1)

403 Actually, the Republinan house has enormous power if they announce they are willing to shut the Government down. Put a Hollywood tax in an appropriations bill or c onto using resolution concerning spending bill and send it to the Senate. Reduce some defense cuts add a Hollywood tax to make up the difference. Agree to a millionaires tax as long as there is a Hollywood tax as well.

Posted by: JBS at November 09, 2012 02:43 PM (t4T2r)

404 How about a Whitey tax?

Posted by: Hector the Serb Nazi Hispanic at November 09, 2012 02:43 PM (/Mla1)

405 @397 - you have a good point. The neocon movement may be near death, but its ideals live on in both parties now. Which is why that hefty portion of the GDP ain't getting away from Pentagon coffers anytime soon.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:43 PM (fEpBa)

406 Wall Street is not republican, it's democrats. They don't care about us, they are the 1% of the 1% and couldn't care less about little people like us.

And we should stop railing on Mitt. He won the primary battle. Who else on that debate stage would have fought a better fight?

The days of smoke-filled back rooms choosing a candidate are long gone. Whoever wins the primary moves on to the general election.

So, who's gonna be the sucker that runs for the republican nomination in 2016?

Posted by: Boots at November 09, 2012 02:43 PM (neKzn)

407 Sorry to be rude, but at this point Fuck You.

They FORCED this upon us with lies and propaganda and the sheeple took it hook, line and sinker.

ACTIONS. HAVE. CONSEQUENCES.


It's about fucking high time these ASSHOLES learned that fact.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:37 PM (UK9cE)


This tax idea is silly. Yes, it's fun to joke about but it isn't serious. The consequences that the left ought to have to live with is that half the country decides they no longer want to be part of the American Socialist Superstate and we want to break off and form our own America to live in consistent with our ideas and consistent with the sort of governance that our Constitution guarantees us.

I have no desire to out-left the left. The left doesn't care. Barky is going to go after his limousine leftist useful idiots soon enough, anyway. I just want out. I want to live in America, which this nation is not. That is the true consequence of this election and that is what the left should have to live with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:44 PM (X3lox)

408 I like a lot of these ideas, and I think that it plays well on the divide and conquer strategy that was used so much to our disadvantage. We so need to do that to their side, using their perceived strengths (fairness/tax the rich), and revealing them for the weaknesses that they are.

Posted by: Flounder at November 09, 2012 02:44 PM (Kkt/i)

409 402 Gristle encased head.

I am working on laying the groundwork for guerrilla wealth.

You buy ran down stuff and look like you're barely getting by but make certain you have enough to eat.

Screw 'em let the bodies hit the floor.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:44 PM (LRFds)

410 Gee and what do you know. Here comes the layoff notices from various companies due to the upcoming Zero's Der Gubmer Healthenkar.Dems are about to get earfucked by reality. Guess what Dems. These layoffs and the spiral effect of 0webamacare, regulations, tax increases, tax cuts expiring, tax on med devices, defense cuts etc. etc. And you fucking own every piece of it. Gee you mean after we over regulate, over tax and overburden companies you window lickers are shocked when the big bad companies move to China, downsize or close? You got what you wanted, and I hope you people suffer more than most. Owebama lit the fuse on this time bomb and the only consolation is that he and the fucking brain dead who voted for it will get to own every part of it. LIFB Let It Fucking Burn!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 09, 2012 02:45 PM (4QGFq)

411 The Boy Scouts might be a righty organization, but the news is coming to light that they have their own little pedo scandal

1. There is absolutely nothing righty about the Boy Scouts as administered at the local level. Sherrod Brown is an Eagle Scout. Lots of 85 IQ union punks on troop committees. Speaking from experience. It's just as left as the rest of society, sometimes moreso.

2. You really do not get it. Every institution in this society has a pedo scandal in its past, if you want to call it that. And every one "covered it up," as the preferred remedy until the last few years was to get the offender out and make the issue go away. The motherfucking public schools, for instance. Every university, and I mean every single one. Daycare. Federal childhood programs. You may think BSA an amusing target right now, but your favorite organization's turn in the barrel is no farther away than a percentage lawyer. Red-diaper borscht belt summer camps? A feature, not a bug.

Posted by: comatus at November 09, 2012 02:45 PM (qaVK+)

412 And, I take it you completely ignored the fact that Hollywood studios get ALL KINDS of tax breaks and shit to produce the crap that they produce.Might as well start voting Democrat if you're going to completely ignore the hypocrisy.
Posted by: © Sponge at November 09, 2012 02:41 PM (UK9cE)


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You obviously didn't read the whole thing. I said that Hollywood should be taxed like everyone else. Go back and read it, asshole.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:45 PM (xZZ44)

413 407 TPOP,

part of being allowed to go your own way is convincing folks they want you to go away.

Taxing them hard would help.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:45 PM (LRFds)

414 397
383 - I have news for you - the military industrial complex is bi-partisan.

Posted by: tofer732 at November 09, 2012 02:41 PM (2zM0P)
True, and Wall Street is agnostic, as in "follow the money" - The business of business is business. The Religious Right is dwarfed by go along - to get along Christianity. Their fear is losing their non - profit status.Right now, Conservatism is a rabble, but that may change. Meanwhile, it's angst time.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 02:46 PM (BoE3Z)

415
actors and actresses have bully pulpit most people don't have,they are not elected officials so if they're going to use it to espouse their political beliefs they need to pay dearly for that priviledge

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 02:46 PM (AW9md)

416 We dont need no water let dat motherfucker burn!
Burn motherfucker !
BURN !

Posted by: Chairman Mow at November 09, 2012 02:46 PM (RGDtb)

417 haha this in idea is funny. and it's nice to blow off steam but srsly

this will happen anyway (fiscal collapse etc)except to those that have tons of money and great attys. and tax accountants .


maybe we just need time to blow off anger and give ourselves time to think through stragedies that make sense within our ideologies about being a free people ..

ugh, that's right we voted freedom for ousrelves , out .

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 02:46 PM (hX8cq)

418 @406 while I applaud your OWS-like willingness to bash the mythical "1%", how did Romney's barely-delineated economic policies do anything to help the little guy?

And as for who could have done better than him?

Jon Huntsman: http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2011/08/jon-huntsmans.html

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:47 PM (fEpBa)

419 300 Why don't republicans examine who votes for them, it's not the the rich.. 8 out of10 in those counties all live in blue states... Blues states that are all 75% and higher white...

While red states are getting fucked for the last 20 years with blacks and Hispanic invasion.. All these white fuckers who live in blue states keep voting Obama.

And republicans have to make these next 4 years miserable, just like democrats did with Bush... And the way to go is not amnesty, so a group votes 70% against you , and the first thought is to reward them..... Fucking amateurs Republicans are
We have to focus on wining those blue states, that vote democrat , and they are the ones who will be crushed in the next 4 years.

Not try to weaken red states with giving citizenship to15 million Anti republicans voters.

The republicans have to make them suffer for putting their liberal culture over the fiscual stability of America...Democrats want to tax them tax them... Why are republicans protecting them... They live in cities that 250,000 anit' rich... The upper west side, donors to democrats along with Hollywood, so Obama goes afte oil . Why aren't republicans going after Hollywood tax shelters.

The problem with republicans we have stupid people like McCain on one side wants the US money and even personal in the middle of every civil war, and other on the end who are protecting big busniess all the big busniess that are tech who fund democrats a media democrat donors....and when democrats throw one false argument, like taxing oil... Republicans should counter with how about Hollwood , who don't even do a movie in a state besides most outside the country unless they get tax benefits, or all the other tax loop holes.

We should have had a candaite who was more anti war. Which Romney should have done.Who crictized Obama failed polices in Afganstan and Lybia.. Who talked daily about the failed surge , the 1300 deaths under Obama....that's why Clint's speech was the one high light, he mocked Obama about Afganstan ..... why democrats needed to destroy him later...When he said ( mock speaking to Obama). you thought AFGHANISTAN was a good idea , I guess Russsia's decade there didn't mean anything to you.

We have a party that pretends the public is smarter then it is.... And these social conservatives... With I' m against abortion if women are raped., that's a not a policy,,,so why push it.
That's what destroed Romney of any chance of winning, I knew Obama was going to win when I saw the last PEW poll. They have been right for the last 4 decades, and no Carter was 4 % down from Reagan ,. PEW last poll had a 6 + democrat

But what is worth remembering, for fucking conservatives is after the 2 nd debate still after the third debate the gap between women voters disappeared, 11% and the media and liberals started to panic, and punshed the blinders bullshit..

And the debate were Romney was aggressive, in the first 20 minutes was his best with women voters.

the blinders crap wash't working what worked was the fool Mourdock comments... And Pew last poll the women cap back to 11%....

Posted by: Sam at November 09, 2012 02:47 PM (FWINB)

420 But they ASKED to pay higher taxes. We're just giving them what they asked for.

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2012 02:34 PM (X6akg)


Now, I have no problem with this. There should be two tax rates for every income level and a question on tax returns: "Do you think you should be taxed more?" If they answer "Yes" to that then they should have to pay the higher tax rate. Sure, they can just give money to the feral government, now, to assuage their sensitive consciences (not that any of the hypocrites do) but I would be very happy to make them put down in writing that they want to be taxed higher and then force that higher tax on them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:47 PM (X3lox)

421 406 Boots,

I agree with you.

Mitt didn't fail America America failed Mitt and i am done shielding the rich from their genius by arguing against my own economic class because I KNOW it aids growth. Wall Street put a retard in charge and then cries when they get their reward?

Let the corps hit the floor.
I am going Zero hedge/Libertarian on it.

Bodies hit the floor.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:48 PM (LRFds)

422 Question: Why do patents run out but copyrights don't? I'm thinking of pharmaceuticals for instance. Does that seem right? Fair?

Posted by: freemo at November 09, 2012 02:48 PM (7Q/5E)

423 It takes more than 10 years to break into this industry.

are you serious? so those 22 year old actresses started when they were 12?

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 02:39 PM (AW9md)


Or younger...

Posted by: Roman Polanski at November 09, 2012 02:48 PM (sZTYJ)

424 #422 And by right and fair I mean in terms of leftist thinking of course.

Posted by: freemo at November 09, 2012 02:48 PM (7Q/5E)

425 @368 Boeing is in Chicago.

Posted by: comatus at November 09, 2012 02:49 PM (qaVK+)

426 #378

No point.

The media will largely embargo it, and it won't even get out of committee in the Senate.

To the extent anyone ever hears about it, it will probably be to the tune of "Hypocritical Republicans pushing tax increases on their political enemies".


Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:49 PM (6Q9g2)

427 i think i'm off politics for a while.
honestly i'm just angry and not helping anyone at this point.

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 02:50 PM (hX8cq)

428 part of being allowed to go your own way is convincing folks they want you to go away.

Not at all. I am allowed to go my own way because I am a free man. I don't need anyone's permission to live in a nation as guaranteed by my Constitution.

Taxing them hard would help.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:45 PM (LRFds)


Taxing them would do nothing. They'd just cheat, anyway, and the feral government would let their friends get away with it. When there is no Rule of Law, then none of this stuff matters the way you think. I won't shit on my own principles to satisfy someone else, who I don't respect, and don't care to have any association with, to begin with.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:51 PM (X3lox)

429
You people have the wrong idea about hollywood abusing under aged girls...its actually boys

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 02:51 PM (AW9md)

430 maybe we just need time to blow off anger and give ourselves time to
think through stragedies that make sense within our ideologies about
being a free people ..




I agree. I refuse to allow myself to become a coward. I refuse to run away because we lost a battle. They only way we are truly defeated is if we quit. Does that mean we'll see victory in our lifetimes? No. Probably not. But I refuse to "Let It Burn" and then look at my kids one day and shrug and say "Well, we tried, but we lost and then gave up."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 02:51 PM (da5Wo)

431 411 - I realize that every institution has it's own pedo scandals. But in the past they didn't cover it up to get the offender out. They covered it up to keep the offender in place.

I think that's why the Penn St/Sandusky thing went on for so long. They covered it up and let Sandusky continue raping little boys. Everybody that knew about it just kept their mouth shut and life went on.

I'm not pointing any extra fingers at BSA. Any organization that was aware of abuse and covered it up is guilty, and there are many of them.

I also think that the time has come to 1) stop allowing charitable deductions on income tax, and 2) start taxing charities on the income they take in, and the property they own.

They're mostly run by leftists, and they use their tax-exempt status to harm the rest of us.

Posted by: Boots at November 09, 2012 02:52 PM (neKzn)

432 The fire rises!

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:53 PM (fEpBa)

433


Question: Why do patents run out but copyrights don't? I'm thinking of pharmaceuticals for instance. Does that seem right? Fair?



Posted by: freemo

The Mouse with teh money, bitches.

Posted by: imp at November 09, 2012 02:53 PM (UaxA0)

434 have the republican house propose a law that anyone making over $1 million gross can take no deductions and any income over $1m is taxed at 99%.

Watch Hollywood, the record producers and singers scream like a baby. Republicans can say "Hey why doesanyone need more than a million dollars a year in these troubled times. Everyone has to sacrifice"

Then run TV ads that says "We are proposing a tax to millionaires so we can continue to give you govt assistance."

Shove it down their throats.

Posted by: retired military at November 09, 2012 02:53 PM (SElov)

435 428 TPOP,

Yeah ask the Confederacy about that "go your own way," being enough.

Not hating on you I just think I'd rather they want me gone rather than shaken down.

Time to make them want the Red gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:53 PM (LRFds)

436 Taxing them would do nothing. They'd just cheat, anyway, and the feral government would let their friends get away with it. When there is no Rule of Law, then none of this stuff matters the way you think. I won't shit on my own principles to satisfy someone else, who I don't respect, and don't care to have any association with, to begin with.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:51 PM (X3lox)


--------------------------------------------


Secession (by omission or comission). Let THEM burn.

Posted by: Soona at November 09, 2012 02:54 PM (xZZ44)

437 I agree. I refuse to allow myself to become a coward. I refuse to run
away because we lost a battle. They only way we are truly defeated is if
we quit. Does that mean we'll see victory in our lifetimes? No.
Probably not. But I refuse to "Let It Burn" and then look at my kids one
day and shrug and say "Well, we tried, but we lost and then gave up."


I may have agreed with you this past Tuesday had Mitt won and we won the Senate and maintained our grip on the House. Now? I'm not so sure victory is possible, if ever, by looking at the trending numbers and the Free Shit Army upon us.

"Let It Burn" isn't quitting, it's forcing the system to reset itself and then rebuilding. This path we're on isn't sustainable and I don't want to be part of it anymore.

Posted by: Brooke Shields at November 09, 2012 02:54 PM (GQ8sn)

438 BCochran i'm afraid for everyones kids at this point. mine. and.
every. american. kid.
hell we won't even have the capacity to fight against a beast in other countries like stalin, hitler anymore.
as this is what half the country decided.
t steal from others until the money is gone, and we re done.

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 02:54 PM (hX8cq)

439 sock off

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 02:54 PM (GQ8sn)

440 427
i think i'm off politics for a while.
honestly i'm just angry and not helping anyone at this point.


Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 02:50 PM (hX8cq)
Hang in there willow. I was angry for a day - now I'm reconciled to just watching the bad cabaret that is America, and engaging in some healthy cynicism and schadenfreude whenever possible. Then again, I'm pretty much an insensitive lout. You seem to have higher sensibilities, so....

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 02:54 PM (BoE3Z)

441 Mouth wash should be taxed at 150%.

Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at November 09, 2012 02:55 PM (vGVmk)

442 1. There is absolutely nothing righty about the Boy Scouts as administered at the local level. Sherrod Brown is an Eagle Scout. Lots of 85 IQ union punks on troop committees. Speaking from experience. It's just as left as the rest of society, sometimes moreso.

2. You really do not get it. Every institution in this society has a pedo scandal in its past, if you want to call it that. And every one "covered it up," as the preferred remedy until the last few years was to get the offender out and make the issue go away. The motherfucking public schools, for instance. Every university, and I mean every single one. Daycare. Federal childhood programs. You may think BSA an amusing target right now, but your favorite organization's turn in the barrel is no farther away than a percentage lawyer. Red-diaper borscht belt summer camps? A feature, not a bug.

Posted by: comatus at November 09, 2012 02:45 PM (qaVK+)


When I was a Scoutmaster, they started requiring any Scout Leader to attend a yearly training class on how to spot strange behavior, what to do if we found any, and how to get around "rules" that the progressives were pushing hard in the MSM regarding how wonderful it would be to let homosexuals into the leadership.

It was a sickening balance of how to keep preverts out and how to avoid negative press if we did.

Posted by: jwb7605 at November 09, 2012 02:55 PM (Qxe/p)

443 @ 247 Secede

a good start -

Rick Perry is joining Governors Nikki Haley, Rick Scott, and Bobby Jindal in leading the way for other governors in the United States, some of whom — even Republicans, are starting to get cold feet on the issue of exchanges and medicaid.

Rick Perry is drawing a line in the sand and giving Washington a “hell no.”

Under Governor Perry, Texas will not create state healthcare exchanges and will not expand medicaid. He is joining Florida, Louisiana, and South Carolina.

http://tinyurl.com/czwos2d (link to Red State )

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 09, 2012 02:55 PM (EZl54)

444 "Let It Burn" isn't quitting, it's forcing the system to reset itself and then rebuilding. This path we're on isn't sustainable and I don't want to be part of it anymore.
Posted by: Brooke Shields at November 09, 2012 02:54 PM (GQ8sn)

Exactly.

This whole thing needs to reset.

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 02:56 PM (i3OIF)

445 >>>Yes, right. The teeming hordes of economic illiterates that didn't
recognize incompetence this time around will definitely recognize it
soon. This is why California has been able to make such a miraculous
turnaround.

California hasn't been able to hit bottom yet. It keeps getting rescued by things like stimulus. Like most of Europe and their welfare schemes. The US for decades has kept them afloat. The US' economy has been the pillar upon which all the other soft socialist welfare states were built. The US' has been the enabler. The supplier. Uncle Sugar.

No one can enable the US though. If it goes down, dire dire dire things happen in Europe and here.

Yes it's a gamble play, unfortunately the alternate play is to cede this election adjust our policies to fit the electoral map (leftward) and try again. This is exactly the liberal plan. A slow steady march to the bleak reality of socialism, so that when we get there, decades from now, there is no living memory of what is was like to be free.

Risky yes, but better to show the people what they are going to get with progressivism quickly while most of the population still remembers the 80's.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose is Shrugging at November 09, 2012 02:56 PM (0q2P7)

446 430 BC1981,

you think that we will spring magically back into the United States of America as born and that wanting a divorce or reset is "cowardly."

Look BC it's like the line from the count of monte cristo "God protects you then I will stop beating you when he stops me."

I'd rather make a play to get away from the tumor than try to outbreed 'em when they'll just import more grabage to make up the difference and try to indoctrinate my son.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:56 PM (LRFds)

447 Not hating on you

The thought never crossed my mind. I hear where you're coming from.

I just think I'd rather they want me gone rather than shaken down.

Time to make them want the Red gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 02:53 PM (LRFds)


But this is the thing. Leftists never want to let anyone go. NEVER. They want to keep you and control you. All leftist nations have been marked by closed borders - closed to emigration. You cannot do anything that will make a leftist want you to leave. You can only do things that make a leftist want to imprison you or kill you. But they never want to let you go.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 02:56 PM (X3lox)

448 #420

That actually *IS* the tax policy in MA.

On the state tax form, you can pay your normal tax rate, or, if you fancy the idea of a stupidity tax, you can simply check a box and pay a higher tax rate. Its purely up to you to decide if you want to write a bigger check to the Commonwealth.

Oddly enough, nobody (not even John F'in Kerry) checks the box for extra taxes.


Posted by: looking closely at November 09, 2012 02:57 PM (PwGfd)

449 #103


The goal isn't necessarily to get the taxes actually enacted. It's to get the general public to hear the argument.

Posted by: epobirs at November 09, 2012 02:57 PM (kcfmt)

450 Hire the old woman that the dems had. "We gonna burn this MFer down"

Posted by: retired military at November 09, 2012 02:58 PM (SElov)

451 agreed on Secession.

Time to face the facts. This marriage can't be saved.


Posted by: T. Hunter at November 09, 2012 02:58 PM (EZl54)

452 The Republican troika is most of Wall Street, the
Religious Right, and the military-industrial complex. Instead of Romney,
the GOP should have nominated a new Reagan or Bush who could satisfy
all three triumvirs for a true battle royale against the Democrats.
Hopefully 2016 will provide a more epic match.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 02:38 PM (fEpBa)


Alex, I'll take cliches for $400

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 09, 2012 02:59 PM (1Jaio)

453 450 Hire the old woman that the dems had. "We gonna burn this MFer down"

Posted by: retired military at November 09, 2012 02:58 PM (SElov)


Don't hire her.
Just stand back and watch her results.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at November 09, 2012 03:00 PM (Qxe/p)

454 How about what I call the "Chief Lone Watie Tax Plan"? We randomly select 100 prominent folks who called for higher taxes recently plus every Democrat in Congress, audit the living shit out of them and get a true accounting of their effective tax on gross income from last year. That then is the tax rate everyone will pay this yearexcept forourchosen betters. They can pay whatever rate they want this year, with the understanding that their rate this year is our rate next year.
We can get really vindictive and say that is the cap anyone pays, fed, state and local combined and the tax payer decides where his money is sent.

Posted by: Joe at November 09, 2012 03:00 PM (9r3GM)

455 David Petraeus just resigned.

Let it burn.

Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at November 09, 2012 03:01 PM (Qxe/p)

456 That sounds like good revenue that will help lead to a more balanced budget.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 03:01 PM (fEpBa)

457 Want to irritate your lefty friends? Well, besides calling them lefties, ask them this question, it really gets under their skin:

"What do Glen Beck and Barack Obama have in common?"

You must be able to figure out the answer. The lefties get really mad when you tell them but it's true.

"Obama weeps again..."
(from drudge)

Posted by: Caustic at November 09, 2012 03:02 PM (/b8+5)

458 So if you can't win, don't play?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 03:03 PM (da5Wo)

459 Income from Music sales, licensing, and Performances of Music for any individual or group should be taxed at 75%.

Can't forget to "thank" Beyonce for her "mitches" statement.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 09, 2012 03:03 PM (JVGuP)

460 455 JWB,

and General fuck you.

I fought for your rep against "general betrayus" and you ran interference for a borderline traitor.

Fuck you I wanted you for CinC someday and now I just want you gone.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 03:04 PM (LRFds)

461 Can't forget to "thank" Beyonce for her "mitches" statement.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 09, 2012 03:03 PM (JVGuP)

I'm a little surprised that the President didn't call her out and make her put 500 grand in his swear jar

Posted by: Caustic at November 09, 2012 03:04 PM (/b8+5)

462 I just hope all the people about to get laid off due to 0webamacare, regulations, tax cuts expiring, the new medical device taxes, defense cuts, etc. etc. are Dems. Of course some will get caught up in the mix. 0webama and his minions own this thing. Dems are about to get earfucked by reality.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 09, 2012 03:04 PM (4QGFq)

463 Petraeus could have ran for prez in 2012 and won

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 03:05 PM (fEpBa)

464 >>Uhhhh...no. That's a stupid fucking idea. Sure you're teaching the kid a
lesson. You're also needlessly hurting him. I come from a family of
smokers and everyone of them said "I catch you smoking and I'm going to
beat your ass." and they meant it.

Are you "needlessly" hurting him any less when you "beat his ass?"

Posted by: angler at November 09, 2012 03:05 PM (SwjAj)

465 Let's assume that the Democrats' obsession with income tax hikes is really all about deficit reduction and staying off the fiscal cliff, and not to just pick people's pockets and hand out goodies to their friends: Call them on it.

Tax rates for incomes > $100k can go to 39% in following any year in which gov't spending balanced against revenues or stayed under 30% of GDP. Otherwise rates are 15% across the board. Seems fair. Dems will never take the bet because they're full of shit.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 09, 2012 03:06 PM (F3nFt)

466 David Petraeus just resigned.Let it burn.
Posted by: jwb7605 (Let It Burn) at November 09, 2012 03:01 PM (Qxe/p)

well that should make for an interesting hearing on Benghazi next week.

Posted by: tofer732 at November 09, 2012 03:07 PM (2zM0P)

467 Wait a minute General petraeus is resigning because he licked another woman besides his wife's pussy?

Hey general your new buddies call that a career enhancer.

Again fuck you.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 03:07 PM (LRFds)

468 Dems are about to get earfucked by reality.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 09, 2012 03:04 PM (4QGFq)
An occurrence that most of the posters here pray for. Pain is the only teacher left for them, it seems. They'll also learn that President Jar-Jar will be of little help to them.

Posted by: tubal at November 09, 2012 03:07 PM (BoE3Z)

469 May as well tackle the high number of exemptions that unions receive for Obamacare. Make them the target and have them explain why people are being fired/laid off for Obamacare taxeswhen they don't have to. Make them get some skin in the game, to quote their favorite President.

Oooh. Tax Obamacare waivers! Those suckers have got to be worth a good chunk of change for the unions/businesses that received them. After all, if you weren't going to save big money from getting a waiver, why would you request one in the first place? Treat the healthcare cost savings from the waiver as income, and tax the fuck out of it! Want your tax hikes Barry? Well, your cronies need some skin in the game, too. Everybody in, Nobody out. Remember that phrase you uttered about a decade ago when you were giving a speech to some of your union buddies and fellow travellers, Mr. Single Payer? I sure do. Pay me.

Posted by: djm1992 at November 09, 2012 03:07 PM (1o4B5)

470 Someone please start a #taxhollywood hashtag. Out of 'fairness' and all. Watch it explode. I don't tweet, am basically technologically useless. Everytime I answer my phone, it takes a picture of my feet. I don't know how to get it to stop doing that.

Posted by: wendy at November 09, 2012 03:07 PM (uBVp6)

471 So if you can't win, don't play?

We'll never win.

I won't play.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 03:08 PM (GQ8sn)

472 YES -- its time for Bruce Willis, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon et al to pay their fair share.

Also the GOP should put forward progressive welfare. Right now if you are on welfare and get a p/t job I believe you lose $1 for every $1 you earn. Its a great way for the Dem's to keep their voters firmly confined. And totally unfair man and keeping the brothers down.

The GOP should propose that we need a progressive scale on this. First $3000 you earn you only lose 10% in benefits and sliding scale from there. Reduce the flat rate of benefits and replace the time limits at the same time and this might actually shift a serious # of folks into the tax payer category that wants government spending reduced.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 09, 2012 03:10 PM (dkExz)

473 There is a very short answer: war. Total and complete political war. The Dems have been waging it on us for a generation now and we keep turning the other cheek. Forget taking off the gloves, it is time to start ruining people.

Start with reporters. When asked a biased questions ask them an ugly personal question in return on air. Ruin their lives, their reputations, their families. Supposedly the Koch brothers are satan on earth. They should have some cash for serious opposition research.

Start by intimidating reporters. That is the first step. "Work the refs," get personal with them. It worked for the Islamists, why not for us? Then we might get a fair fight.

Posted by: gulfkraken at November 09, 2012 03:13 PM (WBfjO)

474 This thread is very encouraging. If Romney only had some ideas like these, he would have won in a landslide.

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 03:13 PM (fEpBa)

475 We'll never win.

I won't play.


Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 03:08 PM (GQ8sn)



Then run. I won't.

The Spartans had it right. With your shield or on it.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 03:13 PM (da5Wo)

476 473 Gulfcraken,

Hi GC I'm sven let's start a newsletter.

Project Wideawake 2013 Fuck the media

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 03:14 PM (LRFds)

477 This is what the GOP should be doing!

Of course, they won't. Tey 2 skeert!

Posted by: PJ at November 09, 2012 03:14 PM (ZWaLo)

478 #422

Because limiting usage of a technology is a serious negative on innovation and growth.

Consider all of the patents Thomas Edison generated in his career. Now imagine that every implementation of those technologies continued to carry a royalty fee paid to Edison's heir to this day.

That is a very different thing than whether Disney retains exclusive control of Mickey Mouse. Anybody can create their own cartoon mouse and so long as it isn't an absurdly direct copy there isn't anything Disney can do. They only own Mickey, not the technology needed for anyone else to make cartoons.

Personally, I don't get worked up over lengthy copyright periods. It was once a concern because things like movies and old TV shows would become unavailable when the studio didn't see enough revenue in keeping them available. Some were lost forever for lack of proper storage.

But today is very different. The channels for distributing creative works are fantastically diverse and in some cases incredibly cheap. Any IP owner would be insane to not offer everything they have.

Frankly, I don't think the world is damaged if people are not free to do their own Mickey Mouse cartoons without Disney's permission. Nor does it bother me if a potentially immortal corporation is the copyright holder and thus the copyright itself is potentially immortal. Does the corporation make the work widely available? If so, their obligation to others is fulfilled. If the laws were contingent on maintenance of availability things might make more sense.

But I think it's silly to expect free stuff just because you waited for the author to die.

Posted by: epobirs at November 09, 2012 03:15 PM (kcfmt)

479 475 BC1981,

You're not fighting for your goals in fighting the good fight BC you're fighting for theirs by saving them from their reward.

You fight them by destroying their game and the best way to do that is to let them play it.

Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 03:15 PM (LRFds)

480
@86 - I'm right there with you. Single people with no dependents really get the short end of the stick because for some reason, we don't need our money.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 09, 2012 03:20 PM (vg8iE)

481 They'll fudge the calendar. "He really started preparing for the role five months ago."

The actors are stupid. Their lawyers aren't.

Posted by: Dang at November 09, 2012 03:21 PM (R18D0)

482 You're not fighting for your goals in fighting the good fight BC you're fighting for theirs by saving them from their reward.

You fight them by destroying their game and the best way to do that is to let them play it.


Posted by: sven10077 at November 09, 2012 03:15 PM (LRFds)


Do I think there's going to be a reckoning? Of course. There has to be. Logic and reality demand it. But am I going to hasten it along? Am I going to help the fireball be that much bigger and happen that much sooner? No. I'll continue to fight. I'll continue to espouse Conservative ideals. I'll hold out hope that things can be saved, while realizing and preparing for the fact that they likely can't be.
What I will not do, what I cannot do, is quit. Is run. Fuck. That.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 03:22 PM (da5Wo)

483 Then run. I won't.

The Spartans had it right. With your shield or on it.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at November 09, 2012 03:13 PM (da5Wo)


What are you fighting for exactly? The corruption that has taken over our country? You want to help sustain it that much longer before it implodes under its own weight? I want to start over. Keeping up the fight means you still believe you can save the current system. I'm sorry, but it was irrevocably damaged this past Monday night.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 03:22 PM (GQ8sn)

484 459 Income from Music sales, licensing, and Performances of Music for any individual or group should be taxed at 75%. Can't forget to "thank" Beyonce for her "mitches" statement.

She and Jay-Z need to have 99 problems, with Socialism being a great big one.

Posted by: djm1992 at November 09, 2012 03:26 PM (1o4B5)

485 What are you fighting for exactly? The corruption that has taken over our country? You want to help sustain it that much longer

That's pretty much my take. Sanction of the victim. Lots of people have it in there heads that's a moral virtue to be Boxer from Animal Farm. I don't think that's virtuous. I have no respect for that. It's just sad.

I will not be complicit in sustaining this wretched, corrupt system.

Posted by: entropy at November 09, 2012 03:26 PM (TULs6)

486 The Spartans had it right. With your shield or on it.

I commend you for picking some good imagery.

The Helots now outnumber us and they have all the weapons.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 03:27 PM (GQ8sn)

487 What happened Monday night?

Posted by: Silenus at November 09, 2012 03:27 PM (fEpBa)

488 I've worked for 33 years as a transportation driver for the studios and made a great living doing so,but i never worked a hard day,long hours yes hard work no.if anyone needs to be taxed hard its actors and actresses.they are the most vapid shallow people you could ever meet,not all but most.

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 03:27 PM (AW9md)

489 "I'd like to think of some way to tax the Kennedys' trusts at a higher rate. I don't know how to do that, though."

That's pretty easy. Tax ALL trusts with more than a $500,000 value - and I mean ALL - at 90%. Do it every 3-5 years.

Posted by: blindside at November 09, 2012 03:28 PM (x7g7t)

490 What happened Monday night?

Meant to say Tuesday.

Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 03:28 PM (GQ8sn)

491
i'd also like to say as disgusting as you think Hollywood is you don't know the half of it

Posted by: kj at November 09, 2012 03:29 PM (AW9md)

492 The Helots now outnumber us and they have all the weapons.


Posted by: EC at November 09, 2012 03:27 PM (GQ8sn)


Then I'll fight with sticks. And stones. With my bare fucking hands. I will not hand my children smoldering ruins and say to them "Well, it's for the best. Try to save it? Why? This was inevitable. Good luck with it."

Posted by: Left Handed Masterbaters at November 09, 2012 03:29 PM (da5Wo)

493 @392 - Excellent idea.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 09, 2012 03:30 PM (vg8iE)

494 I suggested 80% tax on all entertainment, sports etc., in the "Cain wants a Third Party" thread. Good enough for France, good enough for Hollywood.

Posted by: Saltydonnie at November 09, 2012 03:32 PM (v2B2W)

495
Snarky and horrible. We have enough trouble staying on topic. We're trying to talk about principles here. Things like the Laffer Curve. I know we've got an axe to grind with Hollywood, but drop this and don't ever mention it again. Life is too short.

Posted by: Duhgee at November 09, 2012 03:32 PM (26gda)

496 I will not hand my children smoldering ruins and say to them "Well, it's
for the best. Try to save it? Why? This was inevitable. Good luck with
it."

but the sad remains , that you will [/i/]



Humpty Dumpty is down. Will you fight for and build with eggshells?

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 09, 2012 03:33 PM (EZl54)

Posted by: T. Hunter at November 09, 2012 03:34 PM (EZl54)

498
How about five new brackets for the rich above the current whatever percent it is? Go up five percent with each one. Make the Democrats be adult at some point and oppose the taxes or stick it to themselves.

Republicans should not be outdone in taxing the truly wealthy.

Posted by: Beagle at November 09, 2012 03:43 PM (sOtz/)

499 What's happening is the French Revolution in slo-mo. We can be sunny and think the end game is a return to classical values, but if it all hits the fan, like some claim Barky wants, then we have to be ready to be the ones who do push the classical values.

If catastrophe is coming, we have to have a plan. Not a personal one, like a John Galt thing, but one for rebuilding a nation.

Napoleon is not an option.

Posted by: PJ at November 09, 2012 03:46 PM (ZWaLo)

500 Then I'll fight with sticks. And stones. With my bare fucking hands. I will not hand my children smoldering ruins and say to them "Well, it's for the best. Try to save it? Why? This was inevitable. Good luck with it."
Smoldering ruins are not so bad. Soon enough, the smoldering stops and the ruins can be rebuilt.

Instead of handing your children smoldering ruins, you will hand your children to freakjob statists who never stop, who will probably molest and brainwash them.

Posted by: entropy at November 09, 2012 03:49 PM (TULs6)

501 They can't have any of my children. If I can't find the means to protect them I just won't have any.

And they can't have any of my money or my stuff either. I would sooner burn it all and not make any more then let them take it from me. I'd rather eat scraps out of trash cans then support these assholes.

Posted by: entropy at November 09, 2012 03:54 PM (TULs6)

502
But a high paid ... athlete, can make that much in a season, and then take the rest of the year off.

Only if they don't want to be as highly paid when their contract comes up for renewal. Serious athletes work at their sport all year round. Granted, a football or hockey player can (and probably should) take a month or 6 weeks off just to let the body recover.

But the rest? they should be working on their skills, studying film and hitting the gym throughout the off-season.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at November 09, 2012 03:56 PM (1hM1d)

503
Napoleon is not an option.

Of course not.

I propose the Sith Empire of America. Hey, Putin, Hu, Chavez or Imadinnerjacket: don't piss me off, or I may have to accept your apology.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at November 09, 2012 03:58 PM (1hM1d)

504 WWBD?

Wow, for a thread containing such (rightful) hatred toward Hollywood, I find myself posting another movie quote:

"The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very
room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on
your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to
church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled
over your eyes to blind you from the truth. That you are a slave, Neo.
Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Born into a prison that
you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind."

It's the whole system we are fighting. From the teacher union hacks who give good grades to kids for merely showing up, the promote them undeservedly and plant the seeds of bad behavior, to the entertainers who water those seeds and say that the only people who deserve to have money are Movie Stars and sports players. If you build a business, it's probably because you lied and cheated. Actions have no consequences, and you have privileges but no responsibilities. People have been taught that there is a Free Lunch and they vote for the people who promise it.

It's beyond government, it's the whole system of our Mandarin overlords. While we were concentraiting on defended the Free World for the Soviets during the Cold War, their soft allies (often with the Soviets support c.f. The Mitrokihn Archive) wound up in charge.

Again, that, to me at least, was what made Breitbart great; he went after the soft targets, the exposed flanks, not the enemy ion the bunker. He showed the contradictions of the Left. Governmental action is great, but it takes a long time. As someone who has been Leg Staff for many many bills, it so often takes years for even good legislation to get passed and you are under fire the whole time. It IS important, and in many ways, it is the ultimate goal, but it is not enough. And let's face it, We won't get anything passed, and the MFM will not show our side of the story. We need to get light, cut ourselves off from our supply train, and march to the sea. And let's face it, much of the establishment will not support us, but more of it will than ever before. There are much fewer Bob Michaels left. There are no Lowell Weickers. And Arlen Spector is now dead. IF we keep playing by the Left's rules, where we are allowed to play the Washington Generals in the political arena, but allow them to keep seducing the rest of society, we will be hard-pressed to have real governmental power again. Let's face, we still haven't recovered from the excesses of the Warren Court, and we've been fighting that fight for around 40 years.

It has to become personal for us as well as them.

Posted by: calbadger at November 09, 2012 04:07 PM (TaWQc)

505 Interesting ideas all. Reminds me of what happens within a tribe when we have a fair arbiter of rules and what happens between tribes when there isn't. We would all prefer to live in peace and play by fair rules and be allowed to fail or succeed on our own without interference. So we treat others the way we want to be treated. If its two factions within a tribe its effectively two tribes if there is no fair arbiter.
When no fair arbiter is present such as between tribes, reciprocity comes into play. You prefer to live in peace still but when threatened you fight. If its an existential fight, and often to keep the total costs down, total war is most effective. The goal is convince your adversary to in the future play by mutually agreed to rules, or destroy them. We are in an unfair fight, by people who are not in our tribe, and have taken it upon themselves to destroy us. Either you agree to go quietly, join the dominant tribe, create a new tribe or fight like this is an existential fight. If its the latter, its total war. All EFFECTIVE tactics are in play. The gloves come off.

Posted by: BG at November 09, 2012 04:09 PM (Ugngr)

506 Repeal the Hollywood tax cuts!

This is one of the best ideas anybody in the blogsphere has had, and I'm delighted to see it catching on. Bravo Ace! Bravo Glenn Reynolds!

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 09, 2012 04:18 PM (ApQpy)

507
EC,
""I just think there are better ways to do this though."

Well you're wrong. Tuesday night proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that transformational politics and social engineering through wealth redistribution work. Time for conservatives in the House of Representatives to begin engaging their own form of social engineeringvia the tax code. Levying highly punitive taxes on hypocritical douchebags who live fairy tale lives in the land of make believe is an excellent place to start. Another great place to start is todefund any federal enforcement of online piracy laws.

Let the fucking heavens fallonthese people.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 09, 2012 04:20 PM (ZETiK)

508 I very much doubt that Kathy Gifford or anybody who donated any significant amount of money to the Obama campaign is worried about the IRS doing their jobs with respect to them.

Nope, Kathy Gifford co are good.

Posted by: RayJ at November 09, 2012 04:21 PM (pI/IV)

509 That Obama and the Dems will try and block any Entertainment Payroll (not Income tax, off the front end, no deductions) Tax is feature, not a problem.

See, Obama has the Repubs nicely boxed in now. Bamster knows the econmy is about to go over a cliff, irregardless of what happens with the tax hikes or sequestration. If the house repubs stand firm, the tax hikes hit everyone and the cuts hit defense and the repubs get blamed. That's a double victory for Bamster. If the repubs cave in, they get primaried by the Tea Party and the Dems get to run against 435+ Aikens and Mourdachs and instead of loosing big in 2014, the Dems get their super-majority back. This paves the way for Bamster's 3rd term and the re-education camps of the Dems dreams.

If the Repubs instead say, we'll see your tax hike on the rich and raise you a 25% Entertainment Payroll Tax for those who have been screaming to pay more, then when the Dems and Bamster shoot it all down it's their fault. The media will spin it differently, but I think this one might just penetrate to the FreeShit voters. They loves themselves some envy...

Posted by: Jaylord at November 09, 2012 04:33 PM (RuF8n)

510 Also, go after the big endowments at rich Ivy league schools by stripping them of their tax-exempt status. Use the money to fund scholarships for the poor and minorities, like say... Hispanics!

Posted by: Jaylord at November 09, 2012 04:35 PM (RuF8n)

511 Get rid of tax free muni and state bonds. Allow states and local govt to tax income from fed. bonds.

All trust fund distributions to be taxed as ordinary income.

Posted by: wg at November 09, 2012 04:37 PM (MnoZQ)

512 Well, Boehner did concede he'd support new revenues. And this is one I won't even demand neutrality on.

Posted by: George LeS at November 09, 2012 05:17 PM (C4s3i)

513 Re those who believe that its unfair to target an industry--Got a few for you--tobacco, firearms, energy, and booze. Gee, the nanny staters are haters of those industries.

BTW it is even biblical to tax the infotainment industries as a measure of fairness

Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.



Posted by: wg at November 09, 2012 05:44 PM (MnoZQ)

514 I've said it before and I'll say it again: once you hit age 18 you must register to vote. Register as a Republican, your tax rate is 25%. Register as a Democrat and your tax rate is 70%. You don't actually vote after that, asit is automatically casts your vote straight party ticket. That way you can't register as an R and vote D.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 09, 2012 06:51 PM (mV8sg)

515 How dare you suggest that. It is by no means fair. These are the elites who give so much to allllll of us.

Posted by: Yenober at November 09, 2012 06:57 PM (6bVkc)

516 Spite taxing is for losers. You look like a bunch of bitter liberals.

Posted by: Obvious at November 09, 2012 07:18 PM (rUwB1)

517 Not just Hollywood but cable and other subscriber services.

Hollywood
made $10B in box office last year.
200M DVDs are sold each year
($15/disc @$3B) .

BUT 68M households subscribe to cable/satellite at an
average of $71/mo
That is $58B of UNNECESSARY services.

Posted by: WheelmanForHire at November 09, 2012 08:29 PM (l8nIR)

518 You don't know how Hollywood works. The stars get that much because they're worth it. Every penny. Here's how it works: you've got a cool script; and without, say, Diane Lane, or any name star, the movie, when made, the movie is worth nothing. With Diane, you can now get $2million in Japan. What's her fee? $2million. Get it? If you add the rest of the world, and it's worth another $1million, her fee will be $3million. Her agent knows this. It's "value added". So now if you get your movie made, maybe it will be a hit. And you'll do fine. So it's worth the risk. And she's worth the money. Every penny. So don't be bitter and act like they're somehow ripping somebody off. They're not.

Posted by: timbobjoe at November 09, 2012 08:51 PM (lmFnZ)

519 507 EC,
""I just think there are better ways to do this though."

Well you're wrong. Tuesday night proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that transformational politics and social engineering through wealth redistribution work.
-
And a bright, golden star on the chest for the boy who stayed awake in class.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 09, 2012 10:00 PM (U4eT/)

520 I beleive Reagan had said that back in the thirties when actors were under contract to the major studios you made about three pictures a year. You could have made four, but by then your income for the year was already past that certain threshold where whatever your earned for it was eaten up in taxes. So you took some down time.

Posted by: deepred at November 10, 2012 08:45 AM (ef1qd)






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