Leftover Stuff From the Campaign

Back when I supported Tim Pawlenty -- do you remember him? -- I was trying to think of ways to generate some excitement for him.

I mentioned this to John Sexton (@verumserum, now at Breitbart), and he did this video, which we never finished. There was a lot of creative tension on the set.

Later we tried to get it all recut for Romney but there were technical snags.

Anyway. This video has now been sitting around for six months, unfinished. Might as well post it.

Here's a funny thing: John put in all the sex stuff. I thought it was too much.

Then, it grew on me.

One of our fights was about the lion. The lions humping was my idea. I wanted much more lions humping.

Oddly, he was plenty comfortable with the butts and the boobies, but then he balked on the lions.

Sometimes these collaborations just end in bitter fights.

Oh, this one was odd. I was talking up throwing in completely random stuff. John threw in something so random it blew my mind. Then it went on for like ten seconds, making me think he was mentally unwell.

You'll see what I mean.

Posted by: Ace at 12:26 AM



Comments

1 um, what the fuck was that? with all due respect....

Posted by: Jason at November 09, 2012 12:30 AM (hRB9m)

2 Yeah, I'm up drinking and thinking, too....

Posted by: Country Singer at November 09, 2012 12:30 AM (meVGV)

3 How the RNC's project Orca screwed the pooch and gave Obama the election, from Breitbart:


http://tinyurl.com/afjycyj

heads need to roll

Posted by: fark, farkety, fark fark fark at November 09, 2012 12:31 AM (bT79U)

4 fark, that story is an Ace original. scan down page for John's story.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 12:33 AM (LCRYB)

5 I saw the Exorcist face flash. What'd I win?

(never liked that Scanners thing... ech)

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 09, 2012 12:33 AM (SX6wc)

6 We would have won the election with that Ad! I'm so disgusted with the Republican Party right now!

Posted by: Jimi at November 09, 2012 12:34 AM (uvNSk)

7 Yeah, that ad just screams "Tim Pawlenty"

Nice work Ace!

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 12:34 AM (A+/8k)

8 the exorcist face flash was supposed to come up in a clip of the muppets.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 12:35 AM (LCRYB)

9 Are you sober?

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 12:35 AM (b6qQk)

10 can we rename it "project Beached Whale" in honor of Chris Christie?

Posted by: fark, farkety, fark fark fark at November 09, 2012 12:35 AM (bT79U)

11 The chicks with guns I could understand, but just random T and A? Nah, not if there's supposed to be a point to it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 09, 2012 12:36 AM (BeSEI)

12 Holy crap that made me laugh.

Posted by: Silk at November 09, 2012 12:36 AM (8Tq14)

13 Iranians shooting at our drone in international airspace is left-over news. Since it happened on the first of Nov. and we are only now being informed via the voice of CNN. What impact might that have had, a rhetorical question I admit, upon the election of this f*ucking bonehead ch*icken*shit? Why are there not burning wells, hulks of burned out tankers, beaches littered with missle implacement parts, international outrage at our ruthless agression? duh... because we are chi*cken sh*it as*s lickers now? I guess.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 09, 2012 12:38 AM (DBH1h)

14 So, for the next cyclke, when they bring up binders, do we just have to have the RNC / leading candidate(s) just put out responsive videos within 24 hours MOCKING the dem points? (I agree that Romney let himself get defined even as the Bain attacks failed(?).)

Lady on camera: "Can you believe what the Dems are saying? There's a 'war on women'? What a bunch of looneys!"

Get mean, personal, mocking, sarcastic, etc, etc. Make them laughing stocks.


Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 09, 2012 12:39 AM (X/+QT)

15 What might have been...

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 12:39 AM (YSkOI)

16 Why are there not burning wells, hulks of burned out
tankers, beaches littered with missle implacement parts, international
outrage at our ruthless agression? duh... because we are chi*cken sh*it
as*s lickers now? I guess.Posted by: and irresolute


The uncomfortable conclusion that I've reached is because Bush chose Iraq rather than Iran for his nation-building project.

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 09, 2012 12:40 AM (SX6wc)

17 Chris Christie is a sucker of cocks.

Posted by: Concern Troll at November 09, 2012 12:40 AM (b1iOR)

18 Oh, just so I can say that I stayed on topic: I once watched lions humping at the Muncih zoo! Roar!!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 09, 2012 12:40 AM (DBH1h)

19 The American public is so politically stupid...this is how you have to tell them that your not the Tampon Baron....Its pathetic, but it'll work.

Run an Ad of Politicians snorting Coke while Titty Fucking Tranvestites with a Prius in the background and you'll never lose another election!

Posted by: Jimi at November 09, 2012 12:41 AM (uvNSk)

20 Munich! ... blame the Makers Mark as usual! (yes, that's 43 times for this orbit!)

Posted by: and irresolute at November 09, 2012 12:42 AM (DBH1h)

21 Is it too early to start predicting what Obama will do, now that he's not restrained by re-election concerns? I'm guessing Lord Obama invokes Prima Nocte in states with gay marriage.

Posted by: NTTAWWT at November 09, 2012 12:43 AM (FwP/x)

22 I love that.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 09, 2012 12:43 AM (Iyg03)

23 I have a question, why does CA still get all the electoral votes they get, they have lost a lot of citizens!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 12:45 AM (2Nzn8)

24 One issue I’ve never been conflicted about is taxes. I wasn’t sent to Washington to raise anybody’s taxes to pay for more wasteful spending and this election doesn’t change my principles. This election was a disappointment, without doubt, but let’s be clear about something: the House is still run by Republicans, and Republicans still maintain a robust minority in the Senate. I know some people out there think Tuesday’s results mean Republicans in Washington are now going to roll over and agree to Democrat demands that we hike tax rates before the end of the year. I’m here to tell them there is no truth to that notion whatsoever.

Posted by: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) at November 09, 2012 12:46 AM (e8kgV)

25 >>>>>I love that.


Posted by: rdbrewer at November 09, 2012 12:43 AM (Iyg03)

That's shocking. Something ace did you liked? I don't think I've ever been more shocked. So shocked. Incredibly shocking.

Posted by: I'm shocked. No, really. at November 09, 2012 12:46 AM (TZkhw)

26 I liked Pawlenty. He seemed like a perfectly acceptable not-Romney in the early going and immediately started pandering to the base.

What took him out? Was it Perry entering? All I remember is C4P carpet bombing him over global warming and made up quotes.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 12:46 AM (YSkOI)

27 And when I say "a point to it," one of the themes that has emerged from the bitter recriminations so far is that we all agree that the people who didn't vote for our guy think he's a stuck up white guy without a personality, or any connection to popular culture.

All of which may be true, but it also suggests those of us who AREN'T exactly like that, and still supported the guy, don't exist.

Or to put it another way, Fox News is too much Sean Hannity, and not enough Greg Gutfeld. Everybody knows he have Clint Eastwood, but they don't know about Dennis Miller. The R party is Todd Akin, and not Allen West.

Somebody once said "image is everything." Ace, if this world knew you and this site existed, Mitt Romney would have gotten more votes. They don't, and that's not your fault, but until they do, we have a problem.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 09, 2012 12:46 AM (BeSEI)

28 I was feeling better. Now I'm not. I hate that Boahner is being so conciliatory. I get trying to show progress, but republicans are NEVER going to get the credit for amnesty or anything else while Obama is president. And looking weak will just embolden him to press for a more far left agenda.

Posted by: LASue at November 09, 2012 12:47 AM (gjIQF)

29 damn what a horrid few years .and gee we seem to have needed more of it, goooo team America!
there r times in life i think someone slipped a hit of something or other in my drink.

on further thought
I'm past that thought and now , i think they slipped it into 1/2 of Americas drink.

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 12:47 AM (hX8cq)

30 Boehner, america didn't that feel good!

how about more unemployed citizens to take care of!
or what about helping Obama with more cash!

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 12:49 AM (hX8cq)

31 23: I have a question, why does CA still get all the electoral votes they get, they have lost a lot of citizens!
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 12:45 AM (2Nzn

Because the census counted everyone- legal or not. I think they were prohibited from asking about citizenship status, so we all count equally. One can only imagine how many illegals are crammed into the each south central apartment. And each one counts toward the electoral college.

Posted by: LASue at November 09, 2012 12:50 AM (gjIQF)

32 ace , woops rude of me.

the video is strange and perverse yet it made me laugh. especially with Pence being so normal at the end.

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 12:50 AM (hX8cq)

33
Massachusetts senator-elect first news conference.
heh

http://tinyurl.com/bejmsvg

Posted by: YIKES! at November 09, 2012 12:50 AM (1PE/J)

34
Really? Pawlenty? Ugh.

Face it, we had a sucky field this time. Not a one of our young starsgot in the race. No one could have competed with the cult of personality around Obama. Certianly not a stiff moderate (Romney, Pawlenty) or an unelectable flamboyant loon (Gingrich, Bachmann). Add to that the months of unanswered "Kill Romney" ads over the summer in the swing states.

And yet Romney was on track to win this thing a week before the election. Then we know what happened. How frustrating. God has it in for us.

Posted by: GeorgieBoy at November 09, 2012 12:50 AM (jRsDv)

35 Boehner is a joke. Just ready to roll over on about everything. Levin making a good point. Would Nancy Pelosi, in the exact same position, EVER talk about just giving up on a major piece of Republican legislation that the left despised? Something like the Patriot Act?

Would Nancy just go out there and say "Well, after last night's election, it's the law of the land." Hell no, she wouldn't.

Posted by: Rich at November 09, 2012 12:51 AM (arczc)

36 As to the ad posted here: Ned Lamont, 2006. Seriously, this has all the hallmarks of "internet nerds hijack a campaign", like that ridiculous ad Kos ran in CT. It didn't help Lamont win and it wouldn't have gotten Pawlenty anywhere.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 12:51 AM (QTHTd)

37 HAARP!

Its a conspiracy!

Posted by: Jimi at November 09, 2012 12:52 AM (uvNSk)

38 As to the ad posted here: Ned Lamont, 2006. Seriously, this has all the hallmarks of "internet nerds hijack a campaign", like that ridiculous ad Kos ran in CT. It didn't help Lamont win and it wouldn't have gotten Pawlenty anywhere.

--------

It's meant to be funny, folks.

Posted by: Rich at November 09, 2012 12:53 AM (arczc)

39 OMG, that was classic! Good to laugh, I think this was the 3rd of 4th time since Tuesday.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor AfriCon American Lover at November 09, 2012 12:53 AM (2rMmy)

40 34 -

Don't blame me. I sent the hurricane, but I didn't send that fat walrus out there to stab your candidate in the back.

Who did?

You know who.

God, out.

Posted by: God at November 09, 2012 12:53 AM (BeSEI)

41 As for ORCA: meh. The reason the Republicans lost is because the Republicans are the white party. A blubbery albino whale with many nations' ships circling it.

Posted by: boulder hobo at November 09, 2012 12:53 AM (QTHTd)

42 Ace,

If Pawlenty had actually run that ad, he'd be President-elect today.

Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 12:54 AM (+PDlV)

43 Dear Honorable President Obama,

Please pass along to dear Joe that I'm ready for the full load.

Heart,
John

Posted by: John Boehner at November 09, 2012 12:54 AM (TZkhw)

44 >>>It's meant to be funny, folks.

it wasn't an official, authorized ad.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 12:54 AM (LCRYB)

45 and i forgot it was t paw.

sigh

Posted by: willow at November 09, 2012 12:55 AM (hX8cq)

46 Does anyone here remember ever feeling this depressed/suicidal/doomed over an election?

I have talked to so many people who are beside themselves with grief over this, and I am in California, whichis far from conservative. I don't know; maybe we can make something good come out of this.

Posted by: LASue at November 09, 2012 12:55 AM (gjIQF)

47
Crap, I have to embarrassingly ask, what am I looking for in the second one?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 12:55 AM (PHb2k)

48 wow. we woulda won 35 states with these.

OT: I hope McConnell remains the wattle-necked asshole we pretend to hate. He's our strongest leader right now, like it or not.

Posted by: NewBrunswicker at November 09, 2012 12:56 AM (XBxRP)

49 42 If Pawlenty had actually run that ad, he'd be President-elect today.

This.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 09, 2012 12:56 AM (Qxdfp)

50 >>>Crap, I have to embarrassingly ask, what am I looking for in the second one?

space: 1999 for a very long time.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 12:57 AM (LCRYB)

51 Too bad Macho Man Randy Savage is dead, he'd have made the perfect running mate.

Ooooooh Yeeeeeeah!

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 09, 2012 12:57 AM (Qxdfp)

52
Possible Speaker of the House....

Dennis Miller?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 09, 2012 12:57 AM (8cOY0)

53 If there is an election in 2016 and I am still alive (at my age four years is a long wait) I will not vote for the GOP nominee unless boobs are flashed.

And not just any boobs. Nice ones, spectacular even. And not a fake flash that is so fast you could miss it by blinking. A long lasting flash with movement of the torso.

Oh yeah, and not a guy.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 12:57 AM (sRus3)

54 No reason at all for that to be a minute and a half.

Posted by: Abe Froman at November 09, 2012 12:57 AM (E55AK)

55 Because the census counted everyone- legal or not. I think they were prohibited from asking about citizenship status, so we all count equally. One can only imagine how many illegals are crammed into the each south central apartment. And each one counts toward the electoral college.
Posted by: LASue at November 09, 2012 12:50 AM (gjIQF)
Aww.
Hubby went throught the map of election night, two states went complete conservative, OK and UT. And a lot of other states came really close to straight red. My state of nv went completely red, including reno, except clark county!!Only blue county in nv this election.

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 12:58 AM (2Nzn8)

56 re: "Chris Christie is a sucker of cocks."

First of all, if there's rib sauce on it, it's a rib. Doesn't count.

And while the governor may wake up at a Springsteen concert with a spit-shined boner in his mouth every once in a while, that's just jokes between dudes.

(The ads are crazy long.)

Posted by: oblig. at November 09, 2012 12:59 AM (cePv8)

57 >>>No reason at all for that to be a minute and a half.

like I said it was never finished. John was cutting and cutting, and then T-Paw dropped out.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 12:59 AM (LCRYB)

58 How did we get Yertle the Turtle as the Senate Minority leader?

Posted by: burned cut-loop at November 09, 2012 01:00 AM (SX6wc)

59 Ace, I love it. I don't know why you thought it needed to be "finished" because it's fine as it is.

Apologies if I am stupid tonight, but I didn't spot the ten seconds of extra insanity in the second version. The only two things I spotted were a flash of Space: 1999 and a quick flash of a scary face.

Also, what was the music? I liked it.

Posted by: mr_jack at November 09, 2012 01:00 AM (P0N+7)

60 >"it wasn't an official, authorized ad."

Really?

You mean Pawlenty wouldn't authorize an ad with sopping wet boobies, lions fucking, and things blowing up?

Who knew. . .

But seriously, OK. . .that one "might" have been a little over the top, but "unofficial" ads can still move the needle, particularly early in the race when the candidates are defining each other.



Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:00 AM (+PDlV)

61 Face it, we had a sucky field this time.

Posted by: GeorgieBoy

You could soon be considering those the good old days.

PPP – IOWA GOP 2016

Mike Huckabee 15%

Marco Rubio 12%

Paul Ryan 12%

Chris Christie 12%

Jeb Bush 11%

Rick Santorum 10%

Condoleezza Rice 9%

Rand Paul 5%

Sarah Palin 4%

Posted by: The field next time at November 09, 2012 01:00 AM (A+/8k)

62 Netanyahu, get your belly rubbed. Do the legs-high scoot across the carpet to your new master. row me bully boys, row.

Posted by: and irresolute at November 09, 2012 01:02 AM (DBH1h)

63 Maybe some folks couldn't vote for a guy who's never had a drink.

Bogart is quoted as saying he could never respect a guy who wouldn't sit down and have a drink with him.

So, the next candidate has to have to a vice or two.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:02 AM (sRus3)

64 the music is "Die MotherF*cker Die," by some band, forget who. "Germ" or someone.

It's a song john found. He originally had the lyrics playing -- Die motherf***er, die motherf***er, die -- but I advised him we would get visited by the Secret Service if the lyrics stayed in. So, he cut all the lyrics and just looped the guitar riff.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 01:03 AM (LCRYB)

65
ok. I like the robocop in the first. every repub should run that as part of the law and order plus border security debate. "here's my plan"

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:03 AM (PHb2k)

66 I liked Pawlenty. He seemed like a perfectly acceptable not-Romney in the early going and immediately started pandering to the base.

What took him out? Was it Perry entering? All I remember is C4P carpet bombing him over global warming and made up quotes.
Posted by: El Kabong at November 09, 2012 12:46 AM (YSkOI)

His candidacy died in one of the early debates when he was asked about his campaign term Obamneycare. He blanked on it and didn't attack Romney on it so Romney got the uperhand making it look like Pawlenty was full of it.

Which he sort of kind of was, but at least looking at his campaign ads he was aiming to tell the voters stuff they didn't want to hear on entitlements.

Ugh, I just wish Jindal had given it a shot.

Posted by: Nate at November 09, 2012 01:03 AM (b6qQk)

67
I also liked the boobs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:03 AM (PHb2k)

68
12% for Christie? Did those people just wake up from a week long coma?

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 09, 2012 01:04 AM (8cOY0)

69 oh right it's a band called dope.

awesome song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-m4jEY-Ns

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 01:04 AM (LCRYB)

70 t-paw dropped out just after Perry came in, but it wasn't because of Perry per se. It was because he had spent a year in Iowa trying to win the caucus, then came in 3rd or 4th. Or 5th.

He dropped out the next day, I think.

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 01:05 AM (LCRYB)

71 That was awesome. Thanks, Ace, for keeping a smile on my face.

Now I'm going to go back to watching The Two Towers. Maybe I can pick up some tips from the defense of Helm's Deep that we can use in the next election.

Posted by: Mike the Grate at November 09, 2012 01:06 AM (FR+ef)

72 #61
That list is very "rear view mirror" 2012, and doesn't even consider probable candidates (like Jindal) who decided to sit this one out. By 2015 it will probably look very different.

At least half the names on that list won't get past the "speculation" stage (eg Huckabee, Rice, Palin). I don't think Ryan is interested in running, frankly.

Unless he has massive redemption with conservatives over the next four years (which is improbable at best), Christie doesn't stand a prayer now. GOP = elephant = long memories.




Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:07 AM (+PDlV)

73 Oh yeah, and not a guy.

Posted by: eman

Damn!

Posted by: Chris Christie, 52-DD at November 09, 2012 01:07 AM (A+/8k)

74 Maybe off topic, but I hope we can stop the self-hate. We are all mourning and angry, but we shouldn't start destroying our own identity and all possible contenders four years out. Please, let's take a few weeks off, relax, be grateful that we have 59 + million Americans with us, and regroup.

Posted by: LASue at November 09, 2012 01:08 AM (gjIQF)

75
Watching that was weird in a way. At the end, you felt like Pawlenty wasn't such a milquetoast. Maybe he should try 2016.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:08 AM (PHb2k)

76 White males would have turned out for a candidate who ran this ad. Maybe lose some of the ladies though.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen at November 09, 2012 01:09 AM (K1JW0)

77 Ace, that was the greatest ad in political history. Ok, too much slobbering, maybe second greatest after Mark Block's non sequitur smoking.

I especially liked the exploding lake with the guitar riff, no joke. That was an awesome clip.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 09, 2012 01:10 AM (csi6Y)

78 Thanks for the uplift, man. I fucking love this blog.

Posted by: mr.midnight at November 09, 2012 01:10 AM (Kv/xV)

79 Posted by: The field next time at November 09, 2012 01:00 AM (A+/8k)
Sad list, How about Allen West

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:13 AM (2Nzn8)

80 Quite funny. Thanks. Oh Gwd- am i imagining this, or was there a controversy over an ad (200 with Obama and that Berlin obelisk in it? Something about black men and...?

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 01:14 AM (opS9C)

81
Although the smoking man was available at the time it would be funny if a flash of him happened. I agree more lions humping, maybe an elephant too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:15 AM (PHb2k)

82 *wasn't available

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:15 AM (PHb2k)

83 the thing with the space: 1999 was this: the sex, cars, guns, and violence was all kind of obvious. It's like "crazy" but fake crazy, like a joke. Like you're deliberately being wacky. And if you're deliberately being wacky, you're really not wacky.

I thought we should just throw in something completely random that didn't even belong there, something only a maniac would put into this. That's why John stuck in ten seconds of a sci-fi TV show no one remembers. The idea we were going for is "This guy thinks Space: 1999 is like these other things; it's some kind of sexual release for him."

Posted by: ace at November 09, 2012 01:15 AM (LCRYB)

84
Well I liked the top one better.
Heh.
Thanks for the laugh, Ace.

Oh and totally O/T:
FuckDaniel Day Lewiswith the barbed cock of satan!

Did anyone else see what he did?
He made fun of Clint Eastwood at the BAFTA awards...using an empty chair.

Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 01:16 AM (ICEh3)

85 Half the people who voted for Obama could be bought off with $500 each worth of weed and pizza.

Let's try something like that. What do we have to lose?

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:17 AM (sRus3)

86 IMO, the biggest negative with Tuesday is that Obamacare is now basically going to be permanent, including the associated permanent tax hikes.

Obama can still screw up foreign policy, and he can mess things up via executive order, but at least the latter is potentially reversible. House GOP majority does severely put a crimp in any new legislative shenanigans. Whatever Obama gets with tax rates over the next three months will ultimately be changed anyway, just as these things get tinkered with every few years anyway.

The fact that he just squeaked out a win with probably the most cynical and divisive campaign in modern memory is nice, but Obama has still used up most of his political capital, and he hasn't gained much, if any with this last campaign.

By 2016 (assuming he even lasts in office that long) Obama will have tarnished the Dem brand so much, he's going to come out of office making Bush 2008 look like a saint.

Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:17 AM (+PDlV)

87
Iplan toboycott that stupid Lincoln movie...with Daniel Day Lewis as Lincoln.
Fuckhim.

Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 01:18 AM (ICEh3)

88 Go Big or go home! We have tried all the moderates, maybe we should try to win next time
I Liked Romney, but lets face it, dems fight to win. We give all the leeway!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:18 AM (2Nzn8)

89 You people start pushing Pawlenty down my throat again and I'll quit my job and campaign for Hillary.

T-Paw cannot win even with the Ad!

Posted by: Jimi at November 09, 2012 01:18 AM (uvNSk)

90 Sadly, T-Paw isn't a boring guy at all in person. He got some bad advice from some advisor that he needed to be Boringguy McWhitebread.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen at November 09, 2012 01:18 AM (K1JW0)

91 Some sort of Palin, West, Rubio, Jindal thing would work.

No, Palin would be the whole War on Women incarnate to the Left and the Mush-heads.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:19 AM (sRus3)

92 >>That's why John stuck in ten seconds of a sci-fi TV show no one remembers.

Hey, speak for yourself.

Those "Space 1999" clips actually brought back fond memories of watching that show on the tube when I was a small child.



Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:20 AM (+PDlV)

93 #87
You're saying the one where he chops vampires with a hatchet is the way to go?


Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:21 AM (+PDlV)

94 91 Some sort of Palin, West, Rubio, Jindal thing would work. No, Palin would be the whole War on Women incarnate to the Left and the Mush-heads.
Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:19 AM (sRus3)
After the next four years, these dumbass women will be crawling on hand and knees to vote for aWest/Palin ticket. Bad years ahead!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:21 AM (2Nzn8)

95 There's been so many posts like this it seems like one of those liberal sign holding "forgiveness campaigns" to some other country, but I have to add mine:

Thank you Ace. Thank you for keeping me sane. Your blog means so much to me. Thanks for keeping a sense of humor and occasionally disagreeing with your entire fan base. Hats off and all that.

Posted by: Max Power at November 09, 2012 01:21 AM (+wxCD)

96 Why no Scanners remake?

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:22 AM (sRus3)

97 He made fun of Clint Eastwood at the BAFTA awards...using an empty chair.


Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 01:16 AM (ICEh3)

Unfortunately were stuck with another years making fun of an empty suit.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 09, 2012 01:22 AM (1PE/J)

98
Word for word, from the ulsterman report. This is West's district and this is a significant Romney insider according to Ulsterman. Something is fucked up and fucked up in a big way.
To give you a taste of what I’m doing now I’ll share this with you. I’m using a Florida outcome in a specific district to try and wrap my head around all of this. Three counties. Martin, St. Lucie, and Palm Beach. Martin is controlled by Republicans and the turnout #s match what all our national trending showed. Big enthusiasm for the Republican candidate. Republican vote dominated Martin County. St. Lucie and Palm Beach are the real tests and is where the #s really start to signal something is wrong. St. Lucie leans Democrat. Palm Beach is Dem dominated. St. Lucie showed marginally less votes for Democrats % wise. Republicans enjoyed some cross-over which is what all the national models were indicating. In Palm Beach County which is Dem. dominated, voter turnout was even more depressed than prior elections, especially for the Democrats. But the Democrats won the district. The Republicans lost. Basically, the Democrat-dominated counties seem to be where some very odd #s came back. And if this is the model they utilized last night, they had to have done it in multiple counties for every swing state. That kind of coordination would be huge. And it would need the help of operatives from the other side. So I’m sitting here trying to figure out if the #s represent real voter outcome, which means almost all our internals were way the f-ck off, or how they pulled off fraud. That will take time. It won’t matter for this election, but it will make us better prepared for the next one. Either way, I got to focus and make calls, and try to figure this sh-t out.

Posted by: prescient11 at November 09, 2012 01:22 AM (TZzO/)

99 If Huckabee is the best we can do, put your heads between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye!!!!!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:22 AM (2Nzn8)

100 If your not running a hot chick that is smarter than Hillary...you aint gonna win.

See thats the thing....Romney was gonna lose in 2016 anyway.

Posted by: Jimi at November 09, 2012 01:23 AM (uvNSk)

101 After the next four years, these dumbass women will be crawling on hand and knees to vote for aWest/Palin ticket. Bad years ahead!
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:21 AM (2Nzn

Perhaps so, but the last fours had little affect on them.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:23 AM (sRus3)

102
Dave in Fla.
Please take a hard look at these three counties and let us know what you see. Thanks!!!

Posted by: prescient11 at November 09, 2012 01:23 AM (TZzO/)

103 relax Jimi

As an aside, since I really don't do this stuff, how are these videos made? with off the shelf video software or is it more sophisticated than that? Do you go to the net get the scenes or does John have Space 1999 on dvd?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (PHb2k)

104 I used to watch Space 1999 too.

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (opS9C)

105 T Paw. BOOM BABY

Posted by: Like I said Boom Baby at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (/A1Rb)

106 Honestly, I think its way too premature to speculate who we should nominate for 2016.

Not only do we not know who will be on the field to select from at that time, we don't even know the main issues.

If things go as swimmingly for Obama and the Dems as I think they're going to over the next four, it may not even matter all that much who we choose.


Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (+PDlV)

107 "No, Palin would be the whole War on Women incarnate to the Left and the Mush-heads."

yeah, palin has pretty much expended whatever gravitas she might have once had (with her convention 08 speech) by penning two books back to back and putting herself and her family all over reality tv.

she's just not a serious candidate anymore, and her negatives are far too high to be a successful contender. somehow, i think rubio's our best bet...and i really dig rubio and all, but that's still kinda bad news. :/

young, fish senator. won't be a fish then, but still...

at least he's young and good looking. that helps with the female vote...romney/RYAN (*ahem*) pulled a lot of women off of obama from 08...

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:27 AM (79EF9)

108 And if you dont putthe media on the list of our enemies, wtf!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:28 AM (2Nzn8)

109 Perhaps so, but the last fours had little affect on them.



Posted by: eman

and pretty much all of it bad for our side

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 01:28 AM (A+/8k)

110 Palin has been silent.

She stayed out of the limelight and let Mitt do his thing. Smart move. The Left would have loved to hit Mitt with her.

I wonder what she is up to.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:29 AM (sRus3)

111 If things go as swimmingly for Obama and the Dems as I think they're going to over the next four, it may not even matter all that much who we choose.
Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (+PDlV)

Well arent you a glass half empty!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:29 AM (2Nzn8)

112 Huck Fucakabee!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:31 AM (2Nzn8)

113 105 T Paw. BOOM BABY
Posted by: Like I said Boom Baby at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (/A1Rb)
Gang of fourteen?

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:32 AM (2Nzn8)

114 I was thinking during the primaries we should have went for the most conservative instead of the most lib repub we could find because Ofuckup was such a fuckup.

We couldn't have done worse in 20/20 hindsight.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:32 AM (PHb2k)

115 "I wonder what she is up to."

doesn't she have a gig on fox? surely she's been on fox during the election season?

i know she said something "racist" about obama's "shuckin' and jivin'" on benghazi...and that's another thing we need to get our candidates to quit doing.

in addition to making fools of ourselves with the rape abortion stuff, going anywhere near the racially-tinged word "jive"...especially when referring to the lies of a BLACK PRESIDENT...is the political equivalent of giving the media a gun to shoot us with.

iono if her intentions were racist...i'd like to believe they weren't...but how could she think it's ok to call a black man out for "jivin'" in the racial climate of 2012? x.X

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:33 AM (79EF9)

116 I picture an ad for Chris Christie's reelection. It features filled donuts fried on portable generators and shots of ball washers on famous golf courses.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows the chocolate ration only goes up at November 09, 2012 01:33 AM (AZGON)

117 If things go as swimmingly for Obama and the Dems as I think they're
going to over the next four, it may not even matter all that much who we
choose.

Posted by: Looking closely at November 09, 2012 01:24 AM (+PDlV)




What we got going on right now is the new swimmingly.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 09, 2012 01:33 AM (1PE/J)

118 Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:33 AM (79EF9)

Stop saying "us" and "ourselves". You're not speaking for any "us". You think "jive" is verboten, good for YOU.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 01:35 AM (X3lox)

119 I didn't see any difference between the first and second vid, but they were both awesome, i would vote for satan himself if he campaigned on those vids.

Posted by: booger at November 09, 2012 01:35 AM (HI6wa)

120 104 I used to watch Space 1999 too.

The show where Barbara Bain whispered all her lines, and Martin Landau could have used some clothes that didn't look like clearance track suits from Big Lots.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows the chocolate ration only goes up at November 09, 2012 01:36 AM (AZGON)

121 12% for Christie? Did those people just wake up from a week long coma?
-----------------------------------

You ask that after the election we just had?

Posted by: Ronin at November 09, 2012 01:36 AM (AzwZn)

122 Does anyone think the media went after Allen West and Mia Love in this election? Please. Missing the forest for the trees!! Come on !

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:36 AM (2Nzn8)

123 LOL George. Maybe some reporters getting blown over in hurricanes too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuarThdR0Ms

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:37 AM (PHb2k)

124
122Does anyone think the media went after Allen West and Mia Love in this election? Please. Missing the forest for the trees!! Come on !

-------------

Of course they did.
The Dem-media can't stand the idea of there being any black conservatives.
They were targeted, bigtime.

Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 01:40 AM (ICEh3)

125 It begins: http://tinyurl.com/ahb6wxy

Posted by: DAve at November 09, 2012 01:40 AM (XDC0v)

126 This ad may have won a cajun swamp district in Louisiana.

But for the price, that's pretty damn good.

Posted by: Ronin at November 09, 2012 01:40 AM (AzwZn)

127 LOL George. Maybe some reporters getting blown over in hurricanes too.



No hurricane could blow me over! Bah!!!!

Posted by: George R.R. Martin at November 09, 2012 01:40 AM (/YJYi)

128 In 2016 Democrats will take about the nightmare they inherited from George W. Bush.

Someone here said today that Bush is the new Herbert Hoover, and he is. The Dems used Hoover for decades. Tom Daschle spoke of teh evil Hoover.

We must be careful not to be too confident in things like logic and math. They did us no good this year. The truth is we are dealing with myths and monsters, knights and dragons.

Herbert Hoover became Dracula. FDR was Van Helsing.

We must capture people's imaginations and plant images in their minds. Images that help us and last a long time.

We never do that.

The Left is powerful now because they have spent decades destroying American icons. The Pioneer, the businessman, the soldier, the clergyman, the housewife. We must do the same thing to their icons. Have you ever noticed there are never any documentaries or dramas about Marx, Engels, Lenin?

We must make them, and we must make honest ones about our own icons. Sadly, we must work very hard to undo all the work the Left has done to undermine our faith in who we are and that America is a good thing.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:42 AM (sRus3)

129 Of course they did. The Dem-media can't stand the idea of there being any black conservatives. They were targeted, bigtime.
Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 01:40 AM (ICEh3)

Thank you for seeing it! Tea party is going away according to the media fuckfaces! And fox is ready to say, yeah we agree with this..

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:43 AM (2Nzn8)

130 Pretty much everything I know about the election I learned by reading AoSHQ. I'm trying to remember...

...was there bad blood or something between Romney and other candidates? Were people thinking the Romney campaign was "vicious" or something?

Here you have this boy scout of a man, a guy with a totally squeaky clean record, that the liberals couldn't find any actual dirt on. And online, I read a discussion where many people were just saying things like "well, Romney's a vicious insane bastard so I'm not surprised he lost." And I was all "Huh?" Is that just the usual liberal wishcasting (anyone who opposes us is stupid, insane, or evil, or all three like Bush) or was that because of maneuvering in the primaries or what?

The campaign Romney actually ran seemed not only nice, but too nice. I wanted a one-minute ad that was just hammering on Benghazi... "President Obama says nobody told him an Ambassador was under attack from mortars and RPGs. Is he really that big a liar or is he really that divorced from the duties of a President? The attack took over seven hours but no relief forces were sent. Who gave the orders to stand down the rescues? Obama says he needs an investigation to find out what he knew and when he knew it..." I wanted a one-minute ad that was just hammering on Fast and Furious. "Eric Holder says he had no idea that Fast and Furious was happening. Is he that big a liar or is he that incompetent? And either way, why hasn't President Obama fired him?" I wanted a one-minute ad that was just unemployed people and then Barack Obama at a fundraiser, unemployed people and then Barack Obama on a golf course, unemployed coal miners and then Barack Obama saying "...someone could build a coal plant but he would go bankrupt..."

I don't pay that much attention and I don't watch TV, but I just assumed that ads like these were being run on TV, not directly by the Romney campaign but by his surrogates. (Just like it was surrogates who ran the "Romney killed a woman with cancer" outrage.) Did Romney not have a surrogate arm running ads like those?

For that matter, the actual Romney campaign should have run an ad with people whose jobs were saved by Bain, and end with Romney saying "At Bain we took companies that were just about to go out of business and lay everyone off, and we had a 90% success rate in turning them around. 90%! I'm proud of that." They should have run that ad immediately after the "cancer" ad was on TV. Did they do anything like that?

Posted by: mr_jack at November 09, 2012 01:47 AM (P0N+7)

131 Have you ever noticed there are never any documentaries or dramas about Marx, Engels, Lenin?


There's some...they usually leave out all the mass grave genocide stuff though.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 09, 2012 01:47 AM (6pP0/)

132 iono if her intentions were racist...i'd like to believe they weren't...but how could she think it's ok to call a black man out for "jivin'" in the racial climate of 2012? x.X
Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:33 AM (79EF9)


It is time to do just that. Black American vote with their skin. They can't do that and then play victim. I say throw down and use the language you think best tells the truth and let the other side moan and wail. I am sick of folks having to prove they are not racist by being a meek little mouse.

Frankly, if my speech offends you, well, fuck you.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:47 AM (sRus3)

133 "Does anyone think the media went after Allen West and Mia Love in this election?"

i'm still shell-shocked about mia love's loss.

how the !#!@$ did that happen!?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:48 AM (79EF9)

134
"Fox News is too much Sean Hannity, and not enough Greg Gutfeld."

Excellent point. I love Miller, Gutfeld, and now Adam Carolla.
I love Gutfeld's Redeye although I really think his friend Schultz just takes up space for another guest.

Posted by: gm at November 09, 2012 01:48 AM (wgmUB)

135 128 Sad, but true.

Bush did a pretty good job of earning his pariah status.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 01:48 AM (A+/8k)

136 125
It begins: http://tinyurl.com/ahb6wxy


And this - http://tinyurl.com/acds473

Posted by: booger at November 09, 2012 01:49 AM (HI6wa)

137 That's exactly what pulls in the undecideds. I'm convinced this is the template to follow for our new and improved messaging initiative. Pure gold.

Put this in things that would have been useful before the election category. You're as bad as the media.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 09, 2012 01:49 AM (UvR6d)

138 how the !#!@$ did that happen!?

Probably fraud. Lots of systematic vote fraud in FL this year too.

Posted by: @PurpAv at November 09, 2012 01:50 AM (6pP0/)

139 128 Sad, but true.

Bush did a pretty good job of earning his pariah status.
Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 01:48 AM (A+/8k)

Really? How? By being weak and timid? I'll give you that.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:51 AM (sRus3)

140 Heres another thing Adriane Peterson, whom I have followed and admired for years, no dude, you were never a slave, you make millions of dollars a year. Fuck You. Not because you make a shit load of money, but you bitch about being a slave, you fucking asshole!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 01:51 AM (2Nzn8)

141
You have Mike Huckabee to thank for Akins staying in the race. He urged him to stay on and fight against the GOP establishment. He got all the pro-lifers believing Akins could win.

I really dislike Mr. Schucks.

Posted by: gm at November 09, 2012 01:51 AM (wgmUB)

142 "Frankly, if my speech offends you, well, fuck you."

lol simmer down there. i don't care two whits one way or the other. i would never use the word "jive", just because it's a ridiculous hepcat jazzer word, and it doesn't really bother me when anyone else says it.

that being said, it's undoubtedly a word associated with the black race. sorry, but being racist isn't going to win elections. the whole party brand takes a hit when a republican says something politically inadvisable -- the media makes sure of that -- and since it's not just black people who would consider "jive" to be an unacceptable word in 2012, especially when used to accuse a black man of lying.

we don't want to be the Party of Racism. if we start giving chris matthews &al. vague evidence to support their "dog whistles", we're going to turn off a lot of voters who don't want to be associated with anything like that...even if it's just one or two politicians talking about magic bajingas and god ♥'s rape.

hey, it could happen.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:52 AM (79EF9)

143 Would anyone be surprised to learn Mike Huckabee is a Democrat mole?

He might as well be one.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:53 AM (sRus3)

144 Ya...

Johnny is right about the lion, but who ever had the head blowing up idea--is a really sick f*ck.

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 01:53 AM (r2PLg)

145 I think your right mr. jack, romney didn't answer attacks enough or lay out enough of his own, even in the live debate thread everybody was screaming "bring up F and F" or "bring up Libya". He didn't really do it.

I am pretty convinced that the ad that made repubs in Ohio anyway stay home was the "when I built that stage, I built my coffin" ad.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2012 01:57 AM (PHb2k)

146 hey, it could happen.
Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:52 AM (79EF9)

Why bother being careful? It makes no difference. We have nothing to fear from what we say because they will hate us anyway. We might as well know the joy of speaking our minds.

BTW, I did not mean you alone, I meant folks in general who get offended at the drop of a hat. To them I repeat, fuck you.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:57 AM (sRus3)

147 "Probably fraud. Lots of systematic vote fraud in FL this year too."

but she was up by so much...and in utah, the mormon state. isn't utah like the most republican state or something? i really don't understand how that could have happened.

has anyone digested the statistics from exit polls in the 4th district to try to analyse how she fell short?

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:57 AM (79EF9)

148 eman

Genius comment up thread.

Jung.

Reminds me of that idea he had.

Archetypes and the collective unconscious.

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 01:58 AM (r2PLg)

149 Ya...

Johnny is right about the lion, but who ever had the head blowing up idea--is a really sick f*ck.
Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 01:53 AM (r2PLg)


Didn't you come close to that two nights ago?

Scanners was so ahead of its time.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 01:58 AM (sRus3)

150
143Would anyone be surprised to learn Mike Huckabee is a Democrat mole?

He might as well be one.

----------

Wouldn't surprise me.
He raised taxes quite a bit, when he was governor.
And he likes government programs.

Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 01:59 AM (ICEh3)

151 If the lions are a hill worth dying on, I think this might be the only semi-appropriate time to mention that somewhere I have pictures of a couple hippos at the St. Louis zoo trying to hamhandedly get it on. The male must have been 24 inches, conservatively, but he wasn't finding the target.

If this can be useful in saving the country, in any way, I'd be happy to have it find the right hands.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 09, 2012 01:59 AM (UvR6d)

152 has anyone digested the statistics from exit polls in the 4th district to try to analyse how she fell short?
Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 01:57 AM (79EF9)
She fell short because obamas people took her out. Until you understand this. We will get huckabee as the next candidate againat hillary!And he will lose!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 09, 2012 02:00 AM (2Nzn8)

153 Didn't you come close to that two nights ago?

__________________

Oh--gawd.

You mean the suicide mishap?

Yep.

Weird --I'm wondering if that town had a higher rate of suicide--small Canadian town than the norm.

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 02:01 AM (r2PLg)

154 Four dead in Benghazi.

Will no one remember them?

Maybe we should put together a fund and build a memorial. Call it "Betrayed and Abandoned"

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 02:03 AM (sRus3)

155 Didn't you come close to that two nights ago?

__________________

Oh--gawd.

You mean the suicide mishap?

Yep.

Weird --I'm wondering if that town had a higher rate of suicide--small Canadian town than the norm.
Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 02:01 AM (r2PLg)

Oh, it looks like I accidentally stumbled on something. I knew nothing of a suicide mishap and beg your forgiveness. I just meant the election was so devastating.

Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 02:05 AM (sRus3)

156 Space: 1999 ties in quite well with the Newt's moon base ideas.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at November 09, 2012 02:08 AM (+Qbug)

157 Oh, it looks like I accidentally stumbled on something. I knew nothing of a suicide mishap and beg your forgiveness. I just meant the election was so devastating.
Posted by: eman at November 09, 2012 02:05 AM (sRus3)

_______________

Oh okay got ya.

But hell--I think it made me realize why I made the comment I did.

I was telling people here about it--happened to my boyfriend's brother--when I was a teenager.

Long time ago.

I was actually trying to scare some people here.

The kid lived...but managed to blow his face off.

Gawd --sorry.

I'm off to bed after that lovely story.

Posted by: tasker at November 09, 2012 02:08 AM (r2PLg)

158 Bush as Hoover. Yeah it doesn't help when your candidate is not just inarticulate in public, but painfully so.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 09, 2012 02:08 AM (8/slz)

159
Our troubles started in the fucking primaries.

Unless we stop putting our candidates into those dumbass debates...with liberal moderators...we're setting ourselves up for rinse and repeat.

No more R-primary debates with liberal moderators.
Period.
Let the liberals scream about it.

You think the Dems would ever be stupid to put their candidates through the same thing?
A dozen debates with conservative moderators?
Hell no, they wouldn't!

So that's where it starts.
If the R-party doesn't smarten up soon, and stop being so stupid...I may have to be done with them.

Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 02:10 AM (ICEh3)

160 Ah right, now Sarah Palin is a racist? Give it up. If "jive" is off limits, Chris Matthews needs to be informed. Really "Jive" that's racist now?

Look guys, you can't blame Sarah Palin for this. Its on all those who insisted Mitt Romney was electable. And all the proof you need that was not true is that no one is talking about "President-Elect Mitt Romney" today. Clearly he wasn't the right choice, or Obama would be out on his ear..

Gov. Palin did what you asked, remained on the sidelines, commented on FOX News - We got the brilliant Mittens to run, and he failed to destroy Obama.

Oh she writes a book or two and now she can't be president. Also dumb. If Arnold can be governor while previously being an actor - Sarah Palin can be president - if she chooses to run.

Maybe less Milquetoast next time who won't spend a debate agreeing with the guy he is supposed to be unseating?

Posted by: Radius at November 09, 2012 02:10 AM (nL5y5)

161 you know, 2008 did not sting so bad since we lost as soon as we nominated mccain. but this year i could have supported almost any of the candidates. (almost) and i really started thinking that romney could have advanced the cause of liberty in the country.

this stings.

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 09, 2012 02:14 AM (zZJJp)

162 >>>Look guys, you can't blame Sarah Palin for this. Its on all those who insisted Mitt Romney was electable. And all the proof you need that was not true is that no one is talking about "President-Elect Mitt Romney" today. Clearly he wasn't the right choice, or Obama would be out on his ear..

Mitt Romney lost by an inch, any other candidate would have maxed out at a mile.

and "jive" is definitely not off limits

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 09, 2012 02:15 AM (csi6Y)

163 "Ah right, now Sarah Palin is a racist? Give it up. If "jive" is off limits, Chris Matthews needs to be informed. Really "Jive" that's racist now?"

i didn't say she was a racist. i said she should be smart enough to know that it's extremely inadvisable politically to use the word "jive" to refer to a black man's behaviour. it's just stupid. it can't possible have any appreciable benefit that comes anywhere near in magnitude to the amount of harm it can do.

palin's "gaffe" barely even made the news. i thought mitt was an awful candidate who never really inspired the american people. "rich white banker who buys and sells people's jobs to get rich" just isn't a strong contender in a poor economy...especially a poor economy that was ruined, to the public's imagination, by rich white bankers buying and selling people's homes to get rich.

"Oh she writes a book or two and now she can't be president. Also dumb. If Arnold can be governor while previously being an actor - Sarah Palin can be president - if she chooses to run."

arnold, and in fact california politics in general, are fundamentally unserious entities. sarah palin quit her job as governor to write two self-aggrandising books in the space of about a year and do some reality shows. that's also fundamentally unserious.

her negatives are far too high for ever to ever even win a primary -- and what a bitter primary it would be, but for her abstinence! -- much less a general election, where she's absolutely hated by nearly half of the population.

like what you will about her, but she's got no chance of ever being the president. she chose a different role for herself.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 02:17 AM (79EF9)

164 Really? How?

Posted by: eman

As far as the entire country is concerned:

The whole housing mess was allowed to grow to gigantic proportions under Bush. Sure, Fannie, Freddie, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and the CRA had a lot to do with it, but it happened on Bush's 8 year watch. W never got tired of bragging about how home ownership rates were at record high levels, never mind that it was the result of liar loan to people who could never afford them.

There was more than a little bit of crony capitalism involved in all of this.

Then it all blew up and trashed the economy. Bush's response was TARP and gigantic bailouts of the worst offenders.

Medicare Part D was a enormous unfunded new entitlement.

Spending, deficits and the national debt grew a lot under Bush. Sure, nowhere near as bad as Obama, but a lot worse than Clinton. Bush loved big government.

Iraq

Afghanistan

As far as conservatives are concerned:

Bush had control of both the House and the Senate for much of his Presidency. What did we get for that? Precious little. By comparison, look what Obama, Pelosi and Reid did in a mere two years.

Bush would have done amnesty and had to be stopped by a base revolt.

Bush nominated Harriet Myers and had to be stopped by another base revolt.

Bush appointed John Roberts as Chief Justice. How's his Obamacare decision working for you?

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 02:21 AM (A+/8k)

165 So what was the mind blowing ten seconds. Maybe I am just numb.

Posted by: Flounder at November 09, 2012 02:24 AM (Kkt/i)

166
160...Gov. Palin did what you asked, remained on the sidelines, commented on FOX News -

"Sidelines?"
She actively led a sort of 'undecided campaign' for herself, for the better part of a year.
Remember her Bus Tour? Rallys?

She raked in a lot of donations doing that...and for what?
It kept a lot of people on the 'sidelines', hoping that she would run.
How many of them stayed home and didn't vote, out of loyalty to her?

I was stoked about her in 2008.
It made it a lot easier to vote for McCain, with her on the ticket.
It was horrible the way the media went after her.

But I can't say that I've been impressed with her decision-making skills since then.
Making such a big deal out of "deciding to run" just made her seem...well, undecisive.
Not what you want in a President.

Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 02:26 AM (ICEh3)

167 I am genuinely curious, and I ask this without sarcasm and malice, how could you not know that Romney was going to lose? And if you cannot assimilate data contrary to your worldview, why would I trust you to run the country?

Posted by: Jeff at November 09, 2012 02:26 AM (qRuw3)

168 No dice. Needs more tits. And maybe the Vazquez yelling, "Lets rock!!!!!".

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 09, 2012 02:30 AM (dvRYt)

169 Look guys, you can't blame Sarah Palin for this. Its on all those who insisted Mitt Romney was electable.

If Mitt Romney wasn't electable against this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure then nobody is. Period.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 02:30 AM (FcR7P)

170
So what was the mind blowing ten seconds. Maybe I am just numb.


I just watched them, too. Seemed fairly identical.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2012 02:31 AM (FcR7P)

171 "But I can't say that I've been impressed with her decision-making skills since then.
Making such a big deal out of "deciding to run" just made her seem...well, undecisive."

it seems almost indisputable at this point that the decisions she has taken since vacating the governorship have been calculated to maximise her personal finances by capitalising on the popular star-worship of a dwindling but ever more fervent fanbase.

as a result, most of even her own party has essentially developed a reflexive distaste at the mention of her name...while her loyal followers grow nonetheless more rabidly hopeful regarding the prospect of her increasingly dubious candidacy.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 02:32 AM (79EF9)

172 "If Mitt Romney wasn't electable against this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure then nobody is. Period."

still not seeing a rich, white banker being a good candidate in an election cycle where the public is still suffering from a long-lived recession for which rich, white bankers remain public enemy no. 1.

@.@

Posted by: jimi ray at November 09, 2012 02:33 AM (79EF9)

173 the lions humping was too much.
the robocop scene was too much like assassination so that was too much also.

It definitely needed more wii girl.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 09, 2012 02:39 AM (zZJJp)

174 Palin is an idiot, we need to stop beating that horse because it is long dead. She has been successfully marginalized by the media and she was culpable in allowing it to happen. McCain picked her off the tree before she was ready for the national stage.

The MSM interviews were painful to watch, as unfair as they were in some respects. She was obviously not well versed on many important issues. After the failed bid for VP she quits her job as governor early and writes some books and does a few reality shows. Her kids get on other shows.

Then 2012 comes and she makes some noise about running, goes on a bus tour but oddly bails on that too pretty early on. She appears on Fox spouting boilerplate Conservative talking points that have been heard a million times.

She had wattage and charisma at one time and was able to relate to people. She drew big crowds because of that. Unfortunately that is about all she offered. There had to be more substance and she never seemed to get around to doing the tough homework necessary to make herself credible.

I think her fantasy was to see a gridlocked Republican Convention and get drafted in as the nominee so she could avoid the hard work of the primaries. In the end she is kinda lazy.


Posted by: Ken Royall at November 09, 2012 02:41 AM (x0g8a)

175 We need somebody who can represent all three legs of the conservative stool, rejects Willards single-issue approach andcanplay hardball with Dems. Somebody who isreally nasty andcan twist the knife around. Wonks and uplifters and folksy charmers can stay home (buh-byeRyan, Rubio and Fuckabee).I cant believe that Imactuallywriting this, but the closest thing we have to this right now is Sarah fucking Palin. I think she needs to run for Senate in 2014.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 09, 2012 02:44 AM (8EBWh)

176
167I am genuinely curious, and I ask this without sarcasm and malice, how could you not know that Romney was going to lose? And if you cannot assimilate data contrary to your worldview, why would I trust you to run the country?

------------

Romney wasn't the first choice...of a lot of people.
But at least he loves this country, unlike the current occupant of the White House.

It was the fervent hope of a lot of us...that people would vote against the guy who stomps on our Constitution, uses our military as political props, accuses us of being 'racist' if we don't agree with him,wants to take our 1st and 2nd Amendment rights away...and fundamentally change this country into a debt-ridden third world shit hole.




Posted by: wheatie at November 09, 2012 02:44 AM (ICEh3)

177 ...
I think her fantasy was to see a gridlocked Republican Convention
and get drafted in as the nominee so she could avoid the hard work of
the primaries. In the end she is kinda lazy.
...

i think your spot on in the first part, but i think she, and others, did not run since everyone thought the economy would turn around and this would be a cake walk for jef. A lot of good republicans did not run since they thought it was a sure loss, and Palin was on the top of that list. Well the economy did not recover and jef did not have a cake walk. He did have a big wind and a fat man though.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 09, 2012 02:45 AM (zZJJp)

178 Weirdest. Shit. Evar.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 02:49 AM (/2vKW)

179 Hey cool breeze/164 - Great summary of the Bush failed presidency. You forgot about NCLB, which only increased the education bureaucracy and accomplished little else. Ted Kennedy wrote it but Bush got blamed for how lame it was. Of course he never defended himself on anything, which tarnished the Conservative/Republican brand immeasurably. He was never a Con but most people thought he was.

Conservatives need to disavow Bush and his legacy by name and forget about his stupid brother too. The Bush tax cuts were probably the only good thing but even those have been problematic politically. The wars in retrospect were probably not worth it in terms of lives and treasure. 2 shaky Islamic Republics (that hate us) operating under Sharia will remain AT BEST so I don't see how that is a victory.

Looking back, it was Bush who gave us Obama really. He got blamed for the entire meltdown and stood around like a mute fool, just taking the blame. He clearly wasn't thinking about the party or the country by hunkering down like that.

Posted by: Ken Royall at November 09, 2012 02:50 AM (x0g8a)

180 Seriously, I'm 58.34561% drunk (numbers verified by Nate Silver), and I don't understand what's going on in those videos.

Juxtaposition?

I guess.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 02:51 AM (/2vKW)

181 Face it everyone. No candidate is going to work until the electorate changes. The only way that's going to happen is with pain. Real pain. You're talking either a major war with millions of deaths or an economic meltdown of the size and scope of the Great Depression or worse. Enough people simply don't believe the dire warnings about where we are headed. They've been granted temporary fixes. Think FDR. The people that lived through that time were suffering far more than today. Yet they elected and re-elected and re-elected and re-elected that clown. Why?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 09, 2012 03:03 AM (JRU+g)

182 So, let's go after the heart of America, let's go after Seal Team 6. Why not? We won the referendum on socialisim, we won the war on terror, break the hearts, obfuscate Benghazi by starting a new story about punishment for making a little dough on the side for WarFighter. did i say row me bully boys, row?!

Posted by: and irresolute at November 09, 2012 03:04 AM (DBH1h)

183 Sorry, but the attitudes of the Anti-Santorums and their Anti-Bloggers and Anti-cobloggers did it in for me as to how this race would go (sour grapes and all). The R's would not pull for their candidate (we are many small tents).

The "war on women" started here in our own ranks, and the road to hell, etc.,. Thanks to Ace, Coolchech, and many others for teir good intentions.

Posted by: bergerbilder at November 09, 2012 03:06 AM (bErUT)

184 I supported Newt in the caucus here in Nevada. I still think that he would have done best for two reasons: 1st, though he would occasionally say wacky things, he would never let Obama or the media verbally f**k him in the ass like Romney did; 2nd, he would have so completely destroyed both Obama and those two hag moderators that infinite hurricane works would not have saved Obama.

If your going to go down, go down principled, for even if you have lost, you've set the stage for a future victory (i.e. with Goldwater).

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 09, 2012 03:21 AM (sZTYJ)

185 With extreme credulity like that showed here (including now by the umpteen voters doing their best to imitate hysterical 2000 and 2004 Democrats and cry that the election was stolen

... that Obama managed to match his election fraud to equal the RCP average nationally and in 49 out of 50 states ...

... plus all of the echo-chamber self-congratulating and mildly-less-optimistic-supporter "troll"/Democratic Plant decrying that went on before the election...

... no wonder the GOP lost the election and Mitt Romney was shellshocked when it happened.

It was a disaster all around. ORCA. What a clusterf*ck.

The Romney campaign had no idea they could lose, had not even written a possible concession speech, when the polls had showed him bleeding momentum since Sandy hit?

And both the state and federal RCP average polls showed him losing?

And they didn't have a CLUE? It came as a total surprise?

The Democrats were more in touch with reality. Far more.

And ran a massively more competent campaign, especially turnout campaign.

If this degree of self-delusion continues, and it will, the Republicans are going to be screwed for the forseeable future.

The President -- whom I despise(d) by the way -- was at least prepared. He didn't want to lose, but had one foot in the real world just in case, and had prepared a concession speech.

The GOP somehow nominated a candidate who is effectively delusional, as it turned out. I thought Mitt Romney was sane and competent. It's not looking that way.

ORCA [amazingly incompetent -- but check out how much smarter and competent the Democrats were, employing behavioral scientists to get it right -- incidentally, I pointed out earlier Dems get the top, and lowest, IQ supporters generally, with scientists, Ashkenazi Jews, and media leaders trending Democrat]

"shellshocked" -- was Mitt Romney

You know who was in touch with reality than almost every single person in the Republican Party, including the campaign?

Axelrod

Nate Silver.

Markos Moulitsas

Jennifer Cutter.

People like that


I've always valued truth above all else, even my own happiness.

What does it mean to me, I ask, that the above is true?

'Cause I was wrong too. Not nearly as much as you, but a lot.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 09, 2012 03:29 AM (SKX2R)

186 Oh, and you can't not do strike lists.

It's pretty basic. It makes a big difference.

For god sakes.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 09, 2012 03:32 AM (SKX2R)

187 >>> (numbers verified by Nate Silver)

lol Ha!

That's a good meme. "numbers verified by Nate Silver"

If Republicans (including Baseball Crank) will remember it and use it with humility, instead of as a derisive slur of someone 40 IQ points higher than them, then maybe there's hope not to total self-bullshit next election.

Of course the chances of that ain't great.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 09, 2012 03:36 AM (SKX2R)

188 T-Paw should have stayed in.

Not saying I'd love him much over Romney, but who knows what might have happened if he'd stayed.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at November 09, 2012 03:40 AM (MRcfR)

189 Here's an example.

I went to Kos for a few minutes tonight.

I used to go there now and then to laugh at their diarists for their optimism, while acknowledging to myself that Kos had a foot in the real world even though I thought he was exaggerating Romney's likely outcome.

But ... well .. yeah.

That's not looking so right anymore. Here's an excerpt from his most recent post, criticizing what George Will said today (the exact same talking point THAT YOU'VE CONVINCED YOURSELF IS TRUE that I've heard here dozens of times):

"Self-identified conservatives outnumber self-identified liberals 2-to-1 in a nation that has reelected the most liberal president since Lyndon Johnson and his mentor Franklin Roosevelt.
-- George Will

We wish President Barack Obama was that liberal. But aside from that nonsense—conservatives outnumbered liberals 2 to 1?

According to the exit polls, the ideological makeup of the electorate was 25 percent liberal, 35 percent conservative. I know conservatives are bad at math—they've underscored this point dramatically over the last several weeks. But maybe one of George's editors has a calculator they can lend him?

Conservatives are a third of the country. Yes, there are more of them than liberals, but that has much to do with the vilifying of the word "liberal." How do we know that? Because "moderates" voted for President Barack Obama by a big 56-41 margin.

---

That's from Kos himself.

You know what I noticed in that?

It's based on reality. At no point does he pretend liberal self-identification is higher. Instead, he goes with the real data, unlike George Will and gazillions of other conservatives.

Maybe it's thinking like THIS that allowed Kos, Silver (a former Daily Kos diarist), Axelrod, and stephanie fucking Cutter for fuck sakes to be more in touch with reality than anyone in the GOP ...

... including Mitt Romney.

Oh, and Ryan too, according to that same CBS report (which is looking extremely, extremely credible).

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 09, 2012 03:49 AM (SKX2R)

190 *exagerating Romney's likely downfall

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 09, 2012 03:50 AM (SKX2R)

191 Community organizer says: I won. So fucking blow me.

Posted by: Jack at November 09, 2012 03:51 AM (oQAiy)

192 Jennifer Cutter.

Jennifer Cutter?

Yeah, you're in real fucking touch with "reality".

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 03:58 AM (KOmLn)

193 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 09, 2012 03:49 AM (SKX2R)

Yeah ... right. You are so enamored of those "in touch with reality" - the ones who tell the most ridiculous, blatant lies without a shred of shame. You really are annoying as hell.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 04:04 AM (X3lox)

194 We wish President Barack Obama was that liberal.

Shamwise's concept of "in touch with reality".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 09, 2012 04:05 AM (X3lox)

195 At no point does he pretend liberal self-identification is higher.

Yes, he does, by saying that everyone who labels themselves as "moderate" and votes for Barky is actually a liberal who just is afraid of calling himself that.

Or are you too fucking stupid to understand what he's implying, Mr Reality-Based?

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:09 AM (KOmLn)

196 All that "vilification" of the word liberal in movies and TV ... it's just an avalanche!

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:12 AM (KOmLn)

197 I can't remember the last movie I watched which didn't make fun of a lefty fuck and persuade me the conservative was the hero.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:13 AM (KOmLn)

198 So what was the mind blowing ten seconds.

It was the Space: 1999 stuff. It wasn't actually ten seconds; that was just Ace exaggerating for comic effect. (I have observed that upon occasion Ace has been known to say things that are not entirely correct, for the humor of it.)

Posted by: mr_jack at November 09, 2012 04:15 AM (P0N+7)

199 Why oh why has the Reactionary Right been allowed to co-opt Hollywood, and in fact all our cultural institutions?

Posted by: "reality-based" Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:15 AM (KOmLn)

200 Save me from all that "liberal vilification", Samwise!

You're our only hope!

Posted by: "reality-based" Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:16 AM (KOmLn)

201 I remember when Tom Hanks told me that WW2 was a just war against malevolent aggressors, not a race-based conflict about white guys worried about the Yellow Menace.

Don't you remember that terrible vilification of "liberals", Samwise?

Posted by: "reality-based" Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:19 AM (KOmLn)

202 How dare he, Samwise? A superstar like him!? Doesn't he know Kos is wringing his reality-based little hands over his vilification of liberals?

Posted by: "reality-based" Waterhouse at November 09, 2012 04:27 AM (KOmLn)

203 Greatest ad ever.

Posted by: OnePercenter at November 09, 2012 05:27 AM (REGaT)

204 I get it now.

All this time I was remembering how Bush paused for three minutes so as not to scare the children and was crucified for it. Bush used all resources to prevent more catastrophic attacks and was a cowboy. He almost singlehandedly stopped the spread of AIDS in Africa and he's a heartless white bastard. He hosted gay couples at the White House for Easter and he was the Homophobe in Chief. He demanded that Congress rein in Fannie and Freddie 17 times, and the Black Caucus thwarted whitey thank God. Chemical weapons were found in Iraq so of course Bush lied us into war. He couldn't stomach the rape rooms and he hated women. His daughter taught school in the inner city and he was a monster of a father. Unemployment was at 4.7% and he destroyed the economy. He gave to charity out of conscience and Christian conviction and he was a hate monger.

I offer an absolute “fuck you “ to those that retreated from the media onslaught and gave in to the myths for 30 pieces of social media silver. I'll stay in the 300.

And I won't give another goddam dime to charity. I pull the wagon with a gun to my head, but I'll be God dammed if I give another penny out of my pocket of my own free will. That is the only way I choose not to emulate saps like GWB and Romney. Bush told the people to live like Americans and not let an act of terror crush our economic spirit and he was mocked for telling us to “go shopping “. Do you think Obama wants us to go shopping? Fuck shopping.

And again, fuck the people who lapped up the media swill on Bush like it was some “super get laid “ potion. You're the ones who gave us Obama. Ask any business owner. They always look backward when planning their investment. Staring a full blown Marxist in the face for the next four years couldn't possibly have an effect.

Posted by: Kindle Opus Anarcus at November 09, 2012 05:40 AM (XNl0X)

205 Posted by: Kindle Opus Anarcus at November 09, 2012 05:40 AM (XNl0X)

Thank you.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at November 09, 2012 05:50 AM (SLg2R)

206 120 osted by: George Orwell what knows the chocolate ration only goes up at November 09, 2012 01:36 AM (AZGON) ******* I re-watched some of the episodes in bout 1992-1995. It was bizarre and unintentionally funny, but I watched them with friends who have trouble not being ironic. It just seems bizarre to me. Can't explain it, but between the music, the clothes and the physically unappealing actors... There is certain greyness to it, whereas Star Trek seemed vibrant and beautiful (not sure what word to use).

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 06:09 AM (opS9C)

207 Yeah, thanks Kindle!

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:14 AM (C4dFv)

208 I see the troll is back.

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 06:18 AM (opS9C)

209 Dems on Fark are amazed and angry that a business owner is going to fire staff because Obama won.

Logically, its as if they didn't want to fire people and were waiting to see if Romney would win!

And they of course find no problem with Obamacare's provisions hitting in 2013-2014 after the election.

Posted by: Sexypig at November 09, 2012 06:20 AM (1fvrg)

210 Funny how he seems to enjoy spreading gloom on threads which are about escape. Almost seems like he enjoys that the GOP lost...

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 06:20 AM (opS9C)

211 Stick with your day job. Series & Hugh...

Posted by: backhoe at November 09, 2012 06:23 AM (ULH4o)

212 >>>208 I see the troll is back. Posted by: Baldy

There are two of them: gloomy gus and the guy who pretends to be a woman.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:29 AM (C4dFv)

213 "209 Dems on Fark are amazed and angry that a business owner is going to fire staff because Obama won. "

I predict an executive order banning small businesses from firing people.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 09, 2012 06:30 AM (uhAkr)

214 Those were awesome videos

Maybe the right should embrace our evil reputation.

Posted by: Sexypig at November 09, 2012 06:32 AM (1fvrg)

215 I predict an executive order banning small businesses from firing people.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 09, 2012 06:30 AM (uhAkr)

At this point...nothing much would surprise me.

Posted by: BignJames at November 09, 2012 06:33 AM (rlFQ+)

216 Cheers to our President! Lets hope he bring back employment to keep the economy floating back. May he bring back the enduring prosperity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The above was posted on another site by a douche who has no idea how jobs are created. Can't wait until he's laid off if he even has a job.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:34 AM (C4dFv)

217 Remember when Obama called small business unpatriotic because they would not hire people? Then they had that lame idea of a 5k tax credit for each person hired. Jackass really is clueless about jobs.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:36 AM (C4dFv)

218 "I predict an executive order banning small businesses from firing people."

Well, one lib complaint was that those rules don't go into effect until 2014, so why fire now?

LOL.

They also have no clue about economics and understanding of action at the margin.

BTW, several people claiming to be / work for small businesses said their healthcare costs were going down and they got "refunds."

My HSA/high deductible plan just keeps going up. Are these people for real? Mine is an individual policy though.

Posted by: Sexypig at November 09, 2012 06:38 AM (1fvrg)

219 Time for a beer run. Friday night is here. (in my time zone) BRB

Posted by: Sexypig at November 09, 2012 06:39 AM (1fvrg)

220 I am covered through my pension and it goes up every year. A refund? They are lying.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:48 AM (C4dFv)

221 212 Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:29 AM (C4dFv) ******* I'm not sure who the supposed woman is, have an idea, but not sure.

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 07:00 AM (opS9C)

222 >>>221 212 Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 06:29 AM (C4dFv) ******* I'm not sure who the supposed woman is, have an idea, but not sure.

It's jimi ray.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 09, 2012 07:06 AM (C4dFv)

223 222 Walkers! ******** Thanks, that's who I thought you meant.

Posted by: Baldy at November 09, 2012 07:22 AM (opS9C)

224 179 Thanks. You're right, I did forget NCLB.

In hindsight, it would have been a lot easier for conservatives to pick up the pieces after a first Kerry term.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 07:44 AM (A+/8k)

225 First smile I've had since Tuesday.

Posted by: John Galt at November 09, 2012 08:17 AM (UTgIw)

226 No Gamera = FAIL.

Posted by: arminius at November 09, 2012 08:46 AM (cDnhR)

227 Tim who?

Posted by: it all Grover Cleveland's Fault at November 09, 2012 08:57 AM (Kflw4)

228
Moonbase Alpha for maybe five seconds?

One of these things is not like the other.

Posted by: Beagle at November 09, 2012 08:58 AM (sOtz/)

229
>>>It's meant to be funny, folks.

it wasn't an official, authorized ad.


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Was the post less clear before I read it? Thought that was pretty obvious, especially when the wet boobehs were smacking against the car. If the machine guns and Duke Boys didn't do it before that.

Posted by: Beagle at November 09, 2012 09:01 AM (sOtz/)

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Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:16 AM (A+/8k)

231 Sorry about that last mess.

Ace,

Any chance of fixing all the problems with posting? I love your blog, but no other has some many problems with posting.(quoting, formatting, links, copy/paste, preview).

Posted by: cool breeze at November 09, 2012 09:22 AM (A+/8k)

232 Holy Jesus and Mary.

That video. I liked it, but I don't think I should.

What was the music?

Posted by: L, just L at November 09, 2012 11:06 AM (0PiQ4)

233 I was also a Pawlenty supporter. I actually believe he had a better chance to beat Obama, he would have played well in states like Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, etc. I think his working class, Midwest roots had some populist appeal. Obama would have had a hard time really pummeling him. Pawlenty though was a bit milquetoast as well, and was also overly cautious. We needed a superstar to beat Obama, someone like Chris Christie (off my list now) or Marco Rubio.

At the end of the day though, I don't really blame Romney for this loss. I do blame his GOTV team however, but you have to ask yourself if it was actually their fault that Republicans sat out the election.

Romney's main problem though was an electorate that has changed and yet he was forced to run on a SoCon platform that still thinks it's 1980.


Posted by: McAdams at November 09, 2012 12:18 PM (CA2pt)

234 113 I don't really like T-Paw. I just loved the video. BOOM BABY.

Posted by: like I said boom baby at November 09, 2012 06:28 PM (/A1Rb)

235 OK, from a tyro {kisses to weft cut-loop} where the R's blew it was in forgetting this is truly an IDOL electorate now. It's all images, no substance. Thinking is too damn hard, and politics is designed to be too damn hard so smart people can feel smart.

The recount debacle - I discovered 2 days b4 the 2012 election "the rest of the story" here at ACE. Before that, I had the sense that the D's tried to steal it the R's stopped them, but I had NO clue what really happened.

That's the electorate. The 1st thing they hear, they believe, and if they lean D, they believe the D, and vice-versa.

Either realize you HAVE to tell the "rest of the story" and FAST, and that you have to connect the dots for people to get them to vote your way, or you are toast.

I figured out that it's all connected, that there IS a finite pie when it comes to gov't resources, but not in the real world. That was NOT explained. How the "virtuous cycle" only works when all the cogs play a role. Too many dragging it all down skews to an oval, and I too was fooled into thinking people got it. But they didn't. They vote on image, not substance.

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John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
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The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat