Karl Rove Disputes Ohio Call

Updated: Rove says it's too close to call in Ohio.

Fox is bringing in someone from the Decision Desk to explain the call.

Original post follows.

FoxNews just called Ohio for Obama.

And with that, he's over 270.

A hurricane. I can't believe it. A hurricane a week before an election, in which the president doesn't do anything but place a few phone calls and get his picture taken with a fat baby who's in love with Bruce Springsteen, swings the most important election of our time.

Such is life.

Posted by: Ace at 11:17 PM



Comments

1 At least Obamacare kicks in on a Democrat's watch.

So, we live like Europeans through four years of malaise, until the Republican landslide in 2016.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:18 PM (KDek4)

2 Piss on fire and call in the dogs.

The hunt's over 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 06, 2012 11:18 PM (kqqGm)

3 Nate Silver!

Posted by: Jason at November 06, 2012 11:18 PM (6VB4r)

4 Let the impeachment proceedings begin.

Posted by: Milesdei at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (Iljdt)

5 Hey, ek, may you die this month. Look out for the white pick up truck.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (wgmUB)

6 America is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Pastorius at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (gMAUH)

7 Is that where you've been the last few hours, Ace? Trying to think up a clever headline? For fucks sake dude, this is bad news. And boy were you wrong.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (azmhu)

8 this is so wrong

Posted by: Peaches at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (kpCLl)

9 I'm not suicidal. I don't want to watch the world burn.

But fate is what it is and the people who were given this country through no merit of their own have chosen it.

May God be with all of you, even those that don't know him.

Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (hO9ad)

10 At least we have Rubio and Jindal free and clear now

Posted by: Hoarymarmot at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (/LSG0)

11 lets all get on the government tit and pretend we're greece with crappy weather

Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (qEts0)

12 Who wants to bet that the Democrats front another black presidential candidate in 2016, since that's become a surefire win strategy now?

Posted by: Viridian at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (y5LXw)

13 Chris Christie might as well switch parties now. He's never going to win the Republican primary for dog catcher now - the fat f*ck.

Posted by: MM at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (HCRBL)

14 We need more SOCONS. Santorum 2016!

Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (EX+sq)

15 Fuck you America

Posted by: FartDeco at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (7IWvV)

16 Let this be a lesson to all you Pollyannas out there.

Let us pray that no one on SCOTUS dies, or else we are screwed for good.

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (sZTYJ)

17 You know, New Zealand is looking better and better.

Posted by: Ken at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (caupe)

18 But it has electrolytes

Posted by: wooga at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (3DfI5)

19 You guys are so fucked.

I'm truly sorry....my condolences

Posted by: canuck4romney at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (w+LC7)

20 I for one welcome our troll overlords.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (BdPNN)

21 Like Coulter said, this ushers in 1000 years of darkness.

Seriously, maybe 100, but Obamacare is permanent now, at least until we implode financially and WW III starts in the Middle East.

Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (DQHjw)

22 Fuck this shit. If I can find a way to leave, I will. You think a Republican can win after four more years of systemic reshuffling of American culture, demographics, and economic structure?

It's fucking over. Civilization just shot itself in the head and the body's burning.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (dqSmk)

23 +6 D turnout, suckas. Thats the game.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (azmhu)

24 So, what you are saying is that the mucking each others cards has been canceled for this evening?

Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (mcWHD)

25 well it was a great republic while it lasted.

Get ready for 40% tax rates, 12% inflation

and 8% unemployment as far as the eye can see.

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (ovpNn)

26 6 - are you serious? really? pathetic.

Posted by: osu at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (G4dDt)

27 Well, we pretty much lost every toss up in the Senate and in the Presidential race. Honestly, don't know where we are going from here. It's going to take a disaster of biblical magnitude to change this country's trajectory now. Good news is, shouldn't be that far off.

Posted by: Boone at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (tIyK2)

28 I will never listen to the voice of that arrogant, ignorant, lying unAmerican sonofabitch again. I'm so upset I'm incapable of being coherent.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (DoZD+)

29 Well, it looks like the Blogosphere has a long way to go yet on credibility in some areas.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (uD2fR)

30 Going Galt.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (rNekI)

31 Saw it coming with Brad Thor now the only way they can walk it back it to steal the election from Obama.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (Ea64Y)

32 I don't know what to say.

We put everything we had into this. I had hoped that common sense, love of country and personal responsibility would win out in the end.

In reality, heroes don't always win and villainy has a million tricks up it's sleeve.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (JycCV)

33 Bite Me!
WTF is wrong with our country!

Posted by: Redman Bluestate at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (sRIFP)

34 Is the Ace of Spades HQ Decision Desk page still being updated?

Posted by: Crazy Bald Guy at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (8ltUk)

35 *sigh of relief*

Posted by: Jordan at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (jRfn3)

36 Fucking Christie.

That is all.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (AiZkN)

37 Thanks Akin. You really stuck it to Teh Establishment!

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (qiXMt)

38 Going to visit family in Germany over Christmas, maybe I should just stay there. Can't be any worse

Posted by: Ma Bell at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (uVuwp)

39 It's going to be a long four years...

Posted by: Hawk at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (lnNDS)

40 LOL. Fuck this Country.

Posted by: Darth Rove at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (zLmDc)

41 I regret not doing more to help out the effort. I need to get my shit together, personal life, so that I'm free to get into the fight next time.

Congratulations, democrats. See you again in two years.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (zrpqj)

42 Never trust content from Ace of Spades....

Posted by: BJ at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (qX40S)

43 On the plus side, Ann Coulter can give everyone a great big I told you so.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (mcWHD)

44 but hey, FREE SHIT!

Posted by: fuck the 47% at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (u6e7p)

45 The United States of America 1776 - 2012.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (i0App)

46
Well, if Obama wins even in these circumstances, he would have won no matter what.

I guessthe GOP cantake comfort in knowing they never really had a chance.

Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 11:21 PM (RstsB)

47 Hey, Fuck you Ace! You had me fooled. Thought you were CONSERVATIVE in your reportage. Oh well. No bigee.
Goodnight USof A.

Posted by: James Madison at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (Il8JM)

48 And my country ends with a big wind and a whimper.

Where's SMOD?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (fbrwf)

49 I hope Christie is home listening to his Springsteen 8 tracks tonight.

You're dead to me, big man.

Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (DQHjw)

50 It wasn't the hurricane. We were fucking wrong.

Posted by: ballistic at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (jbwz5)

51 Welcome to more gridlock and the fiscal cliff.

Posted by: Hill Country Texan at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (Z/Cvt)

52 Obama Eins
Hardest hit: Right Wing Blog Creditibility

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (azmhu)

53 Fat Man is up for re-election next year

Primary that SOB .. does he think his New Best Friend won't throw his fat ass under the bus?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (wwsoB)

54
ek, are you gay? Most people who ask the god question tend to be rent boys who have had their feelings hurt by fundamentalist Christians, of which I am not one. You can tell from the language of most here, there are many non-religious people, but I can tell that you indeed do have a god, the gods of consumption and patronage and those who like those gods do so because they aren't smart or ambitious enough to achieve anything in their lives, and they are probably w/out children they love as well.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (wgmUB)

55 A house divided will not stand.

Posted by: BrianInWisconsin at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (MsOp2)

56 Mmm. It cannot be denied; the country IS hell-bent on self-destruction.



So be it then. ._. The rest of us must be prepared for the terrible times to come.



Three items:



(1. What will Israel do now?



(2. What will occur in Europe now?



(3. How long before we hit the cliff at home?

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (PW5Tr)

57 Chris Christie has a lot of the blame on his huge shoulders here too! He should have asked for help and if TFG wanted to go to NJ, there was no need to kiss TFG's ass like he did. I am pissed off tonight. Scott Brown lost to a crazy bitch and Romney lost to the liar in chief!

Posted by: CarolT at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (z4WKX)

58 Time for me to disengage. See you in two years.........I need emotional rest...

Posted by: nuclearjim at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (dgRn2)

59
So, how's that AOS HQ map doing? Thanks for not updating it. Geezus. I won't be back. I feel I was led down a primrose garden path here. I learned one thing--don't trust blogs.

The eeyores were right, fuck them all.

Posted by: the clubfooted unshaven pegleg at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (Q2wni)

60 You want I should take him out now? I'm gonna get the paper, get the paper.

Posted by: Corona at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (fh2Y7)

61 My father in law's business will now be closed, my dadwill no longer have a job and I don't know how my family will survive. People were counting on this election and instead a bunch of half-tards head out to the polls and double down on another four years of abject misery. Fuck you America. If there was another country I could afford to move to and start over, I would be packing my bags right now.

Posted by: FartDeco at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (7IWvV)

62 >>>20 I told you Romneybots! I told you Romneybots!

I'm guessing you wrote in 'Palin.' Get fucked.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (JycCV)

63 What is the best country to move to? All hope is lost!

Posted by: Bruce at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (72HWn)

64 Welp, we're screwn. Very, very disappointed. Do I even need to say that?

Posted by: Theresa at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (FDErx)

65 Bye, all.

I'm done with politics.

We've passed the tipping point - between illegals who will soon be voting US citizens, after Obama's executive order, and more giveaways to expand the Democratic base, the D's have locked in a permanent majority, until the collapse.

Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (Hu/Da)

66 what can we say good bye to in the next four years?. Any hope of a conservative supreme court, a budget,the truth behind Libya, a strong military, coal power plants, and Israel. And that's just for starters.

Posted by: dax at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (gUYGX)

67 @57 exactly. The hurricane didnt change the fundamentals.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (azmhu)

68 Damn glad i'm in Canada

STAY OFF MY LAWN!!!!

Posted by: Rick in MB at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (2ocJB)

69 Fuck this bullshit country and its parasite polity. Fuck it. These people are not the countrymen i thought I knew. Fuck them and fuck their concupi.. concu.. greed. I'm ashamed to be an american. Fuck it.

Posted by: jdub at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (vIyum)

70 Why do we want gridlock in DC for another four years? The House stays Republican so it's the same song and dance over and over again.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (KL49F)

71 This may break up the Republican party, but right now I think that would be a good thing. Time to try again.

Posted by: SparcVark at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (UhD+Z)

72 these trolls here think they won but don't realize how fucked they really are

Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (qEts0)

73 >>> "Hurricane Sandy Sweeps Obama Into Another Four Years of Destruction"

Someone here said this was quite possibly going to happen, thus proving to everyone that he's an Axelrod-paid Democrat rather than -- say -- in touch with reality.

Anyway, shitty night. Fuck politics.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (SKX2R)

74 Well, trolls, enjoy your gloat. Enjoy your decline into the abyss too. I will do my best to help us get there.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (ccXZP)

75 Did they even count on vote in California before the declared.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (Ea64Y)

76
I used to support Chris Christine, but he didn't make an effort to talk up Mitt after the Hurricane and I can't forget that.

Posted by: Rosebud at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (toxig)

77 Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (nmZR6)

So you voted for Obama then I guess?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (uD2fR)

78 I think I'll become Democrat. It might be nice stealing other people's money for a change.

Posted by: Jay Bee at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (6W8+8)

79 Nothing lasts forever. I'm a little bit less sad now that my wife and I had a miscarriage last year, our one realistic chance we had to have a child. We conceived through IVF and we lost the baby at 13 weeks. My wife is 40+ now.

I really feel for those of you with children.

Retrench. Do what you can to protect your families from what is coming.

God Bless.

Posted by: SamIam at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (pAyr3)

80 That's it. I've cast my last vote. I'm 54 and I don't need this shit. Retiring in Guatamala no longer seems so crazy. This country can officially kiss my ass.

Posted by: -Shawn- at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (AMW/f)

81 Chris Christie is a human turd. A fat one.

Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (toa9p)

82 If this is what this country is going to choose to do, then, to paraphrase Malcolm Reynolds from now on I look after me and my own, that doesn't include anyone I don't conjure it does.

Posted by: To hel with it at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (Lrj3D)

83 Oh, and hope the young women who were so worried about their vaginas really like the fucking burkas. I am just gonna say it now .. nothing to lose. Barack Hussein Obama is a fucking muslim. Don't care who the fuck says its racist ... he has islam in his heart and up his ass.

Posted by: osu at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (G4dDt)

84 Indeed it is the most important election so far, however, the most important one is the next one.

I am guessing we are going to need a debriefing here to figure out how we fucked everything up so badly, make sure that never happens again and drive all of them out of the country.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (Z9EHQ)

85
a. Deal with it. Live in USAINO
b. Raise money to buy large land mass somewhere on the earth and call it USA Classic.
c. Secede

Call me crazy, but option "c" seems the best option of the three.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (8cOY0)

86 An act of God. Serious Old Testament shit. Not to get all pat Robertson or anything...

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (nO18H)

87 Nothing to do but embrace our new (old) overlords.

No more student loans. Free & perfect health care. That's the standard muthafuckas.

If I don't get that as a consolation prize, I'm gonna be pissed.

Posted by: yomomma at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (DKLl9)

88 Second look at the Mayans being right?

Posted by: Gozer the Gozarian at November 06, 2012 11:23 PM (nD2pm)

89 Well, now we're going to find out what would have happened had Jimmy Carter won in 1980

Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (wwsoB)

90 Impeach Obama on Libya.

Right now, the House will be too chicken to do it since O just won again. So we need more to come out about it, more whistle-blowers who can risk Holder's overuse of theespionage law. Ulsterman's Insider should take off his mask, too. We need whistle-blowers in the worst way.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (KL49F)

91 Rubio 2016

Posted by: Cornfed at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (CyqAO)

92 Civil war, it is time

Posted by: billygoatpuke at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (SguKr)

93
When you rob Peter to pay Paul you can always count on the vote of Paul.
Republicans can't do anything different. The takers outnumber the producers.

Posted by: misty at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (2crn8)

94 Anyone wanna make stock market predictions?

Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (hO9ad)

95 To hell with the Republican Party. The thing is a waste.

Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (toa9p)

96 At least Ryan is going to keep his house seat

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (tw6Ar)

97 I am crying for my country.

Posted by: VAgirl at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (U9x6W)

98 The nation will be fine.

Romney and Ryan wanted to make this election a choice about our future. The Democrats insisted that there were no hard choices. Well, the public preferred to believe the Democrats. For obvious reasons.

So, it's taking the public longer to learn than we had hoped. But, they are learning. 2016, GOP landslide.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (KDek4)

99 Well, now we can impeach the fucker.

Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (6IReR)

100 Can't wait to see the internals.

What did it, a wonderfully executed GOTV for the Dems?

Evangelicals staying home?

Fraud?

Hispanics?

Women?

I need to know who to blame.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (BeSEI)

101 TFG won by doing what he does best - signing checks.

Posted by: Tours Lepanto Vienna at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (SBdwW)

102 How does doing nothing about a hurricane get you re-elected? I... I don't get it. And no doubt we'll see a swarm of liberals, coming out to gloat. Over what? Do you people even know what you've done? To yourselves? You put a man with no accomplishments whatsoever back in power, and why, so you can get on a blog and gloat at the people you've been brainwashed into hating?

Posted by: R. Waher at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (4FP+P)

103 Ugh. Nate Silver is probably going to be 50/50. Unbearable.

Posted by: LukeinNE at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (7C3yQ)

104 Y'all abandoned me months ago. Think I'll save your ass now? Hell no, bitches.

Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (mcWHD)

105 Young hipsters and racial minorities. Now the majority voting bloc in the USA.

Posted by: Doc at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (Kdnwi)

106 I will hasten my application for Canadian citizenship now. . . .

Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (jKE+Z)

107 69 go suck your azz!

Posted by: Bruce at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (72HWn)

108 Time to go galt. We get what we vote for and I'm tired of pulling the cart for these fucks. Let someone else pay for their shit. Fucking leeches.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (bXdYS)

109 I won't give up my last shred of hope until all the votes are counted.

DO NOT CONCEDE, MITT!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (piMMO)

110 Hurrican Sandy did not just destroy homes in NJ and NY. She destroyed the whole country.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (KL49F)

111 OK. How is that whole "don't bring up Benghazi" strategy working out?

Some of us warned you about this particular flip-flopper.

:wq!

Posted by: InsertCleverNameHere at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (SS8WM)

112 States need to split up their electoral votes. States can't let their money pit cities control and direct all the electoral votes.


Posted by: Deli LLama at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (lGu1O)

113 Well boys and girls, it's all over except the crying, roving bands of rape gangs and scurrying from dumpster to dumpster looking for your next meal.

Prepare.....

Posted by: ATLDiver at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (rCsM0)

114 Also, while I'm busy disowning this fucking bullshit country, I'd love to know HOW THE FUCK fucko the clown managed to overcome the indep lead... was it as simple as the Sandy photo op? Sorry if i'm over the top or disjointed, but I'm kinda drunk, which is how i plan to go through the next four years.

Posted by: jdub at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (vIyum)

115 Sandy? Really? That's the reason?

Posted by: laowai at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (j+/Iv)

116 A hurricane didn't win Obama FL, Ace. Wake up.

Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (EX+sq)

117

Well at least there won't be any riots.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (Kgufq)

118 The Republic has been legitimately raped. In the anus.

Posted by: wooga at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (3DfI5)

119 The nation will be fine.

Romney and Ryan wanted to make this election a choice about our future. The Democrats insisted that there were no hard choices. Well, the public preferred to believe the Democrats. For obvious reasons.

So, it's taking the public longer to learn than we had hoped. But, they are learning. 2016, GOP landslide.

-------

When we will be well over 20 trillion in debt. 2016 is too late.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (arczc)

120 Has the preference cascade kicked in yet?

Fuck me. I'm done with politics.

Posted by: fly at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (ynKDK)

121 Do you realize we are not going to have a budget until at least 2016!!!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (0fxcV)

122 It's wasn't Sandy:

1) The MFM absolutely did it's best to fluff this fucker throughout the campaign.

2) The country really does like free shit, no responsibility, and living off the 1%'s tax burden.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (JycCV)

123 From here on out I'm planning on suckling on the government tit. Why be a chump? Where do I pick up my Obama phone and EBT?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (SzAZ7)

124 Light 'er up, Bibi.

Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (HYD/Y)

125 God bless Texas. Sounds like a great place to start rebuilding a republic. Anyone up for a national Moron meet-up down there? To last until the blue states implode themselves.....

Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (/Rruc)

126 For the first time, I'm ashamed of my country.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (IlZPo)

127 Shit, does this mean I have to show up for work tomorrow?

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (feRPT)

128 At some point a country moves beyond the point of no return of dependency on government. Be excited you got to witness this!

Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (EX+sq)

129 Illegal aliens to be given expedited citizenship,more votes bought with money printed for the occasion, Democrat plan for a permanent one party country, Greece will look like a paragon of fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: JHW at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (B38OD)

130 Where's my God now? The same place he has always been-not in faux Messiah Obama.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM (zfFcz)

131 YES!!!!!!


ROmney camp DOES OT BUY FNC's call. They are not giving up the fight!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (piMMO)

132 No concession until the votes are counted.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

133 84 I think Flapjack whatever was a Palinbot.

Teh establishment!

Posted by: Shoot Me at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (qiXMt)

134 Allen West 2016 - let's go people, there's going to be a lot of stuff needs fixing by then.

Posted by: Andy at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (nfYez)

135
it's not the hurricane folks...
a few thoughts:
1) the dems would be crazy to ever nominate a white candidate again. the dems should just nominate a black candidate every 4 years. the black turnout alone in 2012 is just staggering. more than 08 in most places. cory booker '16 and '20 is a landslide.
2) we are getting killed -- KILLED -- with latinos nationally and i don't know the solution. im not going cnn analyst but this will be a problem in the future. would rubio as VP have helped win florida? maybe. but we still would have lost the election, since we lost ohio.
3) cnn's exit poll said 77% said the economy was poor and 63% don't want higher taxes. yet 51%+ vote obama. we get what we deserve.
4) romney wasn't a weak candidate like mccain, but he wasn't necessarily strong..... 'new' religion, 'boring', 'wooden', and rich in a country of more moochers. this isn't a knock on him, but since we really just 'fell in love' with him october 3rd, that should be a sign that we needed someone more charismatic or whatever
5) the blue state midwest is a lost cause. their states are dying. DYING. population losses. factories closed. horrible economics. and they keep voting in blue dems.
6) i am not worried about the supremes as much as you all are; let's face it, roberts ain't reliable and neither is kennedy. the senate still would be "D" majority to confirm romney's pick, and sununu gave us souter remember? we will still be okay from the court's perspective. obamacare is here to stay sure, but that was decided in june honestly.
7) what's amazing is we increased governorships, held the house clearly, yet got blown out in the senate and president races.
the electorate was D+6. D+6!!!!!!!! obama basically had his 2008 turnout. i'm not sure about the future of our party on the national level. WE HAVE LOST FIVE OF THE LAST SIX POPULAR VOTES. this has to change.
9) somehow, we will be okay!

Posted by: ! at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (nsvtN)

136 But with that said, O still stole it. We need investigations to the rumors that Dems were voting 1600 times each in OH and the busloads of Somalis. We need to investigate the machines switching Romney votes to O in at least three states. The NBPP intimidating voters in Philly. All this needs investigating.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (KL49F)

137 I guess it's over. Now we learn to live like Europeans. There will be no Republican landslide in 2016. There won't be any Republican landslides again. Hillary will run in 2016 and she'll win. I think that's the end of it. Sorry to be so pessimistic. We have to adjust to a new reality.

Posted by: debiesam at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (nE6k3)

138 Romney not conceding, OH not a done deal

Posted by: Ma Bell at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (uVuwp)

139 _______________________________


It is over.

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (J+Q+d)

140 Bye.
This last free-ish election was fun. Wish I hadn't foreseen this in a depressive fit of woe a year ago.
That's the last one, folks.

Fix is in. Permanently. No vote against this edifice of lies and theft will ever count. It can not be allowed to count by those permanently now in power. So it won't. Ever.

And that's why this one was the last one.

If there's no freedom, there's no point in politics. So long, then.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (jZn+7)

141 My mom's family has been in SC since 1680 and my dad's in NC since 1720. Carolina's have been a good place to live, but maybe not a good place to stay. Both went from for Romney this time, but both won't secede. Maybe time to move on.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (4Mv1T)

142 This country is a Joke!

Posted by: Jimi at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (uvNSk)

143 I'll be looking to sell stocks/mutual funds tomorrow.

I don't have any connections to Obama bundlers, so I'm out of the market.

Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (DQHjw)

144 Romney campaign disputing the Vote-count on Ohio, we may be going to courts over this election. again.

Posted by: Mordart at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (hXX/4)

145 A hurricane? No. What beat us here is the fact that very nearly half of our populace are too ignorant to pour piss out if a boot. They had an option to choose between the guy that ass fucked the country for four years, or the one that hasn't. They chose...poorly.

Posted by: Coleman at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (XYgOq)

146 "116 I won't give up my last shred of hope until all the votes are counted.

DO NOT CONCEDE, MITT!"

This.

Let's wait and get counts in. I recall similar stuff happened in 2000. And 2004.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (uhAkr)

147 ROMNEY NOT CONCEDING YET

Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 11:26 PM (w4fEE)

148 Rove reading the vote count for Ohio

the spread is less than 1000 votes!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (piMMO)

149 Oh and not that it was all the difference. But fuck that fat piece of shit Christie.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (bXdYS)

150 Romney did a great job
But he couldn't beat the MSM
They're the fucking enemy

Posted by: TexasJew at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (F1lOF)

Posted by: Dave R at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (G/2Ed)

152 and get his picture taken with a fat baby who's in love with Bruce Springsteen

________________

Chris Christie?

(okay bad joke)

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (r2PLg)

153 Karl Rove: STAY TUNNED!!

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (zrpqj)

154 America wants another four years like the last four.

I'd have lost that bet.

Posted by: tsj017 at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (vOH26)

155 Everybody should watch For Greater Glory, the recent movie about the Cristero rebellion in Mexico against the tyrant Elias-Calles.

You want to see what a real fucking opposition looks like?

Posted by: november1981 at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (Z6XSF)

156 Stock market might be up or down tomorrow. The big news is the debt ceiling hitting again at about the same time as the Bush tax cuts. The tax cuts will be repealed and the debt ceiling will be increased. Obama will get a pass from the bankers because he is raising taxes.

Overall, the economy certainly is headed for the doldrums. The Fed will continue to print money, and the US automobile industry is going to face another crisis.

The public sector will now seek total control over the private sector in an attempt to leech out as much money as possible.

Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (toa9p)

157 Rove said Obama has 911 votes over Romney in Ohio, maybe there is some hope? All we have is hope now.
Romney is contesting it.

Posted by: CarolT at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (z4WKX)

158 >>> So, how's that AOS HQ map doing? Thanks for not updating it. Geezus. I won't be back. I feel I was led down a primrose garden path here. I learned one thing--don't trust blogs.

>>> The eeyores were right, fuck them all.

Sadly, yes.

The funny -- in a gut-wrenching sinking feeling kind of way -- thing to me is I was overly optimistic, once again.

Just like the last three elections before this one.

And yet, still called an Eeyore or worse -- and I was once again wrong (but on the side of optimism).

Another pitch for an alternative way -- Stoicism: http://goo.gl/PxN9X

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (SKX2R)

159 Christie should be punished. Severely. Never forgive, never forget.

Posted by: Anon at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (udTVX)

160 It wasn't Christie.

It wasn't Sandy.

It wasn't Romney.


This election was won for Obama by the slavish moral characters of a dependent class. Look at Rousseau's First Discourse--specifically the note on Alexander and the Icthyophagi. He explains the root cause very well.

Posted by: Some Asshole at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (S4DnY)

161 Thank God I'm a naturally occuring lazy-ass that loves video games and porn. The transition to European socialism won't be much of a jarring experience.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (JycCV)

162 Looks like it's time for some civil disobedience. That, or serious planning to go Galt. Or both.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (IlZPo)

163 I'm going to pretend this never happened.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (C4dFv)

164 Hey pissy pants! Rove says it isn't over.

Posted by: blehzor at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (s9K+V)

165 I'm done. Checking out. No more blogs.. no more Rush.. no more TV. Burn America. Fucking burn.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (1hNQS)

166 We are officially a country of idiots. Do these fools not realize what they've done? They've thrown away the republic for free phones and free rubbers. Congratulations.

Posted by: Scarlet at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (9AU2U)

167 OK, so we're a far left nation now, resoundingly. Greece. Even in the Midwest for God's sake. Conservatives, stop moving to very red states and fight for yours on the battlefield! Blues move in and we flee? There ya go.

Whatever, too late now. I will strategize accordingly. How can I get mine? Hard work? Yes, still, but with a side eye toward "gimme mine." Tears.

Posted by: csmats at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (pOSGo)

168 @3

Yeah, we will. But so will you motherfucker. Think you're immune? You got a big surprise coming.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (OjQYm)

169 Fox missed it..they called Ohio to early....

Posted by: BriarMatt at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (W/7lG)

170 ______________________________


DAMN. it is simply OVER.





Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (J+Q+d)

171 Looks like it could have been Libertarians. Republicans are too social conservative.

Posted by: Lyle at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (6/kys)

172
So tell me scoamf supporter what do expect different with for more years besides $20,000,000,000,000 debt.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 11:27 PM (1PE/J)

173
Pat Buchanan predicted this coaltition that would destroy us years ago, and because the tv Pat, (as opposed to the real Pat) appears stubborn and bellicose, no one listened to him.
Because pols are afraid to call out other pols by specifically saying, "You are obviously catering to blacks, to ...............etc: and then add "and you obviously are dissing white men....hey, white moms, how do you think your sons will do in this society......" they don't make headway.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (wgmUB)

174 ek, we here will be prepared for the screwing Obama will give us. You, on the other hand, will be shocked and stunned.You're not going to get the free, neverending party you were promised.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (DoZD+)

175 Houston went red again after going blue in 08, so there's that.

Posted by: Boone at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (tIyK2)

176 So, gimme wins.

Will it be wrong when people I care about are denied treatment and are left to die under the Obamacare rules to say "I told you so?"

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (z63Tr)

177 Rove said it aint over yet in Ohio. O,s lead shrank down to 900 with 77% of the vote counted and Repub suburbs not counted yet

Posted by: cpddet at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (/0fx3)

178 Fine...

...now we can have an actual Conservative in 2016. Not that it'll matter then... this country has been irreparably damaged.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (UU6uJ)

179 Time to switch from being personally responsible, fantastically resourceful and highly skilled in a number of lucrative technical endeavors to figure out instead how best to stick a siphon into the artery of government that will soon be sucking the life out of the private sector. And teach my kids how to do the same. I feel a little bit morally freed right now, like certain things that I wouldn't have considered okay before are now okay. If we are to live in a morally relativistic society, I'm primed and ready to take advantage of it.

Under a capitalist system, my own self-interest serves my fellow man. Under a more socialist system, it will most certainly not. Oh well.

Posted by: mr_frakypants at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (aNr75)

180
D+6 turnout? Really??

What the hell happened? GOP turnout must have been well up, so where the hell did Obama find all his new voters from??

Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (RstsB)

181 guns and gold tomorrow.

Posted by: Yobobbyb at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (VzkNh)

182 Oh.. and EK. Say any of these words to my face...or any of my own...
I have either a 200lb fist for your douche face or a .45ACP for whatever else. Don't matter.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (4Mv1T)

183 >>>154 Now the 2016 election needs to be a choice. Not a referendum

A choice between 'PALINPALINPALIN' and 'NOTPALINPALINPALIN'

Again, go fuck yourself.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (JycCV)

184 Do we finally get budget?

Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (1PE/J)

185 All our taxes are going to jump. We lost the senate, too?

Posted by: Walkers! at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (C4dFv)

186 Did Romney at least win the popular vote.?.small consolation..I know, but I need whatever I can get...

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (53riN)

187 The hurricane would never have won this for O if the press wasn't derelict in their duty on Benghazi.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (KL49F)

188 The Media must be destroyed. All of them. They brought this. They injected this into the US. Destroy the Media. By any and all means. Kill them all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (i0App)

189 I don't think we should be looking at 2016 right now. Who is out there? Think about it who is next in line?

Look at the house just going along they aren't going to stick up for us. They just go along. Who is out there that can lead us right now. That has the balls.

Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (9pqWr)

190 Rove is claiming ohio isn't done yet...900 vote diff at 75% in

Posted by: phil at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (QzdcC)

191 Rove is on, saying OH should not have been called.

As much as a 2000 repeat would drive me batty, I can only pray that's what we're in for.

Posted by: VAgirl at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (U9x6W)

192 "GOP landslide.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (KDek4)"


Are you fucking serious? Did 2012 not teach you a fucking thing?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (uD2fR)

193 This country is going to break up. This can't last.

Posted by: misty at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (2crn8)

194 >>> Karl Rove: STAY TUNNED!!

I do respect the heck out of Karl Rove so MAYBE.

But.

Really.

I'm not going to get excited about it.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (SKX2R)

195 An Obama without the threat of re-election. We. Are. So. Fucked.

And stop with Rubio. Yeah, he's so hot he helped us sweep through Florida. Oh wait . . .

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (Q0B9b)

196 Looks like Colorado just legalized marijuana.

Posted by: Jordan at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (jRfn3)

197 The producers will now focus on provisioning and firearm maintenance. Good luck everyone!

Posted by: James Madison at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (Il8JM)

198 Looks like it could have been Libertarians. Republicans are too social conservative.

Unlikely. People don't want to make the hard choices that need to be made. Other countries around the world are proving this fact as well. Greece, Spain, et al. In total denial of reality.

Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (mcWHD)

199 And just to repeat...

...I've had enough with tiny polls and bubble talk.

Romney was supposed to win handily.

That's what we were told.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (UU6uJ)

200 If Obama wins, Iran nukes Israel in the next four years.

Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (toa9p)

201 I'm at a loss to know what the fucking retards voting for Obama think he's going to do for them over the next 4 years. Because any one of them that actually works for a living, pays taxes and pays their own electricity, gas, and heating bills is going to get FUCKED with a dick the size of an elephant.

If that's really what you want, I hope you enjoy it you morons.

Posted by: deadrody at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (N+5Kx)

202 This is what we do starting tomorrow people:

Identify all and any business that supported Obama's campaign, any
person renting out their home who voted for Obama and any person who is
making improvements to their home/land who voted for Obama.

Find
EVERY SINGLE VIOLATION of LOCAL, STATE and FEDERAL regulations or laws
that these people have and start calling them in to the proper
authorities.


You own a nice mom and pop business and like Obama? Bam!! Americans With Disabilities Act Violations left and right.

Oh
you're thinking of making modification to your home or land? Whoa!
Environmental Protection Agency impact statements, permits and fines.


Decided to rent out that house and move to a newer one? Better make
sure you comply with all lead paint awareness regulations and fair
renting practices.

Health code violations in your restaurant? Real shame buddy well don't worry it won't cost to much to fix those up.


What do you mean you did not know about all those WONDERFUL
Occupational Safety and Health Administration guidelines for worker
safety? Breaks my heart... but hey the laws the LAW.

Let these
people feel the regulatory crunch on their businesses, properties and
homes. Let them feel what good ol' fashioned BIG Government can do for
them! Starting Monday morning I'm going to about half a dozen businesses
who supported Obama and just start taking notes and then I'm making
phone calls and filing complaints.


That's the CHICAGO way!

Posted by: Nevyan at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (mAkmK)

203 Now I'm emotional drained.. And am mostly at peace at final outcome... Now just relaxing to enjoy the show.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (zrpqj)

204 Will our credit rating be retired AAA+?

Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (1PE/J)

205 My son turns 1 on Friday. I'm scared for him.

Once you get people drunk on free government cheese, it's hard to take it away from them. This was our one shot to walk back from the edge and we blew it. I'm absolutely flabbergasted that a man THIS dangerously incompetent could be re-elected. Just....man. Unbelievable. Like many have said, I thought I knew what this country was about but I was wrong.

Posted by: Dave R at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (G/2Ed)

206 Joe Biden is going to be our vice president for another four years. I weep for our once-great nation.

Posted by: elprez at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (4QO27)

207 Then after 2016, it'll be President Biden.

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (z63Tr)

208 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.(I think that's the last time I'll post that) I don't really believe the hurricane turned the election but if it DID,well maybe it really was meant to be this way.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (9XBK2)

209 187 Rove said it aint over yet in Ohio. O,s lead shrank down to 900 with 77% of the vote counted and Repub suburbs not counted yet
Posted by: cpddet at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (/0fx3)

Then WTF did Fox call it for O then? When did Rove say this? How many minutes ago, I mean?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (KL49F)

210 Hey, at least we're not a racist country anymore!

Posted by: Your liberal professor at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (DKLl9)

211 The hurricane? Really?

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (9ghZ6)

212 I'm on the down side of life and I don't think I even care anymore. I'll be 80 at the end of this 4 years but with any luck I might not have to be around for all of it.

Posted by: rplat at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (ew94K)

213 More than a hurricane really. But I do feel like we got blown into Venezuela.

Posted by: SarahW at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (LYwCh)

214
"This election was won for Obama by the slavish moral characters of a dependent class. Look at Rousseau's First Discourse--specifically the note on Alexander and the Icthyophagi. He explains the root cause very well. "

See, this is what I think ought to greet Barry at every speech: "Yo, Barry, who ya going to take money from now to give to the deadbeats?"
Okay, up next week, Benghazi?

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (wgmUB)

215 It's going to be a messy four years and since the real shit isn't scheduled for after that, it's going to get even messier.

Tough loss. I loved the ideas this country was founded on, but I'm sad at what it's become. I really do think this was our last chance to save. I think it's too late now.

This is how they they wanted it. It's every man and woman for themselves now.

Posted by: Tommy V at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (ZYlKz)

216 ________________________________


I am sobbing. I am SOBBING AND SOBBING: IT IS FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING: over.

It's over, my friends. over


Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (J+Q+d)

217 Karl Rove is a pig eyed imbecileanddiminishes Fox's credibility.

Posted by: -Shawn- at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (AMW/f)

218 Rove needs to STFU. Like now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (Q0B9b)

219 Romney disputing the Ohio call

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (DGIjM)

220 'The American Republic will endure until the day Congress Obama discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

--Alexis de Tocqueville

FIFhim

Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (/Rruc)

221 182 Rove said it aint over yet in Ohio. O,s lead shrank down to 900 with 77% of the vote counted and Repub suburbs not counted yet
Posted by: cpddet at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (/0fx3)

PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS TRUE

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (csi6Y)

222 I weep for the last few patriots in this country. The Obama Phone entitled crowd, the sluts who demand free contraception and abortions paid for by us, the uninformed idiots.....

I am sick. I weep for my son and his fellow military men and women who despise this CiC. Our son said if Obama won, he and most everyone he knows will get out rather than re-up.

Good. Let's bring back the draft and include the Obamabot wimmins, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (UOM48)

223 May God be with us all. And with that, I delete my presence from the internet. Goodnight y'all. Take care of you and yours. We are lost.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (GrtrJ)

224 Noonan was correct. the cake was baked and Romney was correct about the 47%

Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (40anC)

225 And can a select few of you who are talking about impeachment please stop? Here's a clue: NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Tonight should have been a rather large dose of reality.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (uD2fR)

226 Oh Shitt!!!!

Karl Rove just chastised Fox News live on air.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (zrpqj)

227 Rove says not so fast. Was pretty animated about it.

Posted by: Naqamel at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (gcE9n)

228 Well then there is VA--and FLA..ugh.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (r2PLg)

229 We can't pay for Obamacare and the "care" we'll get is minimal.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (wgmUB)

230 >>> Did Romney at least win the popular vote.?

A few minutes ago on CBS, I heard that Romney was up in the popular vote by 39 to 38 million, and they used the term "million vote margin".

So, at least as of now, yes.

They they called the election for Obama. But Karl Rove says wait because of tight margins in Ohio.

That's the most current info I have

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (SKX2R)

231
Do with me what you will...

Posted by: Injustice Roberts at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (WBVkh)

232 It's not over yet. That's all I'm saying.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (1GunI)

233 Secession is not the answer, but the threat of it is part of it. Of course, one has to be willing to carry it out. It will take a few more years to build the mass needed, but do not yield. Let Mitt Romney make his concession call--don't make yours.

Resolute determination is required at this moment. I actually feel as if we are on the right path. I have zero idea why.

The Battle for 2012 is over. The Battle for the American Experiment has begun.


Posted by: A. at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (kjTzB)

234 Karl Rove says Ohio is too close to call.

Romney is not conceding.


Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (LCRYB)

235
Hmm, too early to say I told you so? We can blame specious things like Sandy, the reality is there was nota huge difference between Obama and Romney.
So what now? Another 4 years of the GOP not having the stones to force a balanced budget? A lot of hollow talk while we continue raising the debt ceiling and spending into oblivion?

Posted by: Andrew at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (Egza/)

236 My ship sails for Australia at noon eastern from Port Charlotte. Good bye...and good riddance.

Posted by: rich evil republican bastard at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (qJM+e)

237 It's not the hurricane.

It's the demographics, stupid.

Since 1965, the Republican Party has agreed to reduce Whites, from which it gets 90% of its votes, as a share of the population.

This is the Republican Party's reward for cutting the throats of its supporters.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (4qa9e)

238 205 If Obama wins, Iran nukes Israel in the next four years.
Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (toa9p)

Since God has promised that Israel will not be destroyed, I want to live there. It seems the only safe place on the planet.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (KL49F)

239 Demographics matter. It has nothing to do with race, but culture. Unfortunately, Hispanic and Black cultures promote horrible governments; see Latin America. Unless their culture changes, we're screwed.

Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (HYD/Y)

240

139Paul Ryan....keep that red hat on backwards...douche!

That made me laugh...Paul's a good guy but thats funny

Posted by: sunny at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (ONXcZ)

241 211 Think he'll live that long without serios health problems?I doubt it.The next VP will be worse though.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (9XBK2)

242 ...glad to see somebody called thier shitty coverage out tonight.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (zrpqj)

243 This election is NOT over!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (piMMO)

244 Fuck you, America -- you deserve all the shit a Socialist Europe gov' brings.

Posted by: Punahou Death Stare at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (sTS/8)

245
keep hearing REM's "It's the end of the world as we know it."
All I can say is glad my dad passed away 4 years ago at this time and he said then it was the end of America as he knew it. Guess all that free everything wins out.
Anyone got stocks in weapon companies, cause tomorrow its gonna go up like a rocket.

Posted by: morigu at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (UF8He)

246 Dewey Wins! They haven't counted the votes. But I do need some advise on my much larger garden next year, what the fuck do I do with my 401k, and wheres the best place to grow tomatoes in TX?

Posted by: Infidel at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (Vk6ZI)

247 there were only going to be two outcomes of this election anyways
a) Get fucked in the ass by a President Romney
b) GOP burns

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (tw6Ar)

248 “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ¯ Alexis de Tocqueville


Just an old dead white guy....

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (lZBBB)

249 What the hell happened? GOP turnout must have been well up, so where the hell did Obama find all his new voters from??
Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (RstsB)

Seems to me the electoral map was played with. Romney leads the popular vote with over 1 mil.

Perhaps all those R's who illuded the census. Or something more sinister.

Posted by: Anon at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (udTVX)

250 126 - you are assuming we will still have elections on 2016.

Posted by: Stormy at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (1f2Z2)

251 Don't go Galt. Become a pirate.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (WwR1j)

252 BENGHAZI - IMPEACHMENT

Posted by: Redman Bluestate at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (sRIFP)

253 LOL. Fuck it. Obama will bankrupt us. Americans deserve every bit of what they get. The weak and stupid must suffer.

Guess what fuckers. I work for a global corporation and I can just leave and take my skills with me.

Posted by: Darth Rove at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (zLmDc)

254 What are Romney's chances in the popular vote. Not important, I know, but it would at least give me a little faith in the American people.

Posted by: MidGeorgian at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (qBGUl)

255 It's broken. Time to take up the Cloward-Piven strategy and push it over the edge. The sooner it collapses the sooner something better can be built.

Posted by: epobirs at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (kcfmt)

256 Free stuff is better than the founding principles of the country. Sad, sad day. I'm wondering how close I can get to going Galt - not quite sure I can pull that off, so I guess I'll be working until the day I die being a 'giver' rather than a 'taker.'

I worked, saved, did the right things and now all that goes to support someone who wants free birth control from the Catholic Church. I hope the Catholics do go Galt and close down their hospitals when faced with choices that go against their conscience.,

Posted by: someone at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (bqjJT)

257 Look, we will be finished with this POS on 1/20/16. Set your calendars.

Until then, let him burn America to the ground. Let him fucking own it. And make sure you laugh at your friends/family who voted for TFG when they lose their jobs.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (Q0B9b)

258 It sure doesn't help that its eems Republicans QUIT at the drop of a hat, Jesus, people, it's been Eeyore EVERYWHERE all damned day.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (bxiXv)

259 It is too early to give up. Ohio is still up for grabs.

Posted by: eman at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (beMhL)

260 If he wins Ohio, so what?

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (9ghZ6)

261
Walter, shove it. Obama is not "slightly liberal."

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:31 PM (wgmUB)

262 "241 Karl Rove says Ohio is too close to call.Romney is not conceding.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (LCRYB) "

Please Jesus
Please Jesus
Please Jesus

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (KL49F)

263 Boy this country is corrupt. How can Warren and Jackson get elected?

And Ace, since you're closest to Christie, go kick his ass. Fucker.

Posted by: Walkers! at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (C4dFv)

264 A thought... Perhaps the GOP in Ohio wised up and deliberately held back votes in some of thier big lead precincts. Two can play that game.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (zrpqj)

265 Rove is just trying to save face. That's all he's doing? It's not going to work.

Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (9pqWr)

266 So...

We fall back. We dig in again. We ready ourselves for the next battle and for the tough times ahead. They have forgotten Nemesis again, but it hasn't forgotten them.

Posted by: NothingIsEverOver at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (MwqCg)

267 "Obama wins because it's not a traditional America anymore. The white establishment is the minority. People want things."

And they're going to take them from Whitey.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (4qa9e)

268 >>>183 Oh.. and EK. Say any of these words to my face...or any of my own...
I have either a 200lb fist for your douche face or a .45ACP for whatever else. Don't matter.

Uh...who's the EK you're threatening. And over what?

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (JycCV)

269 If he wins Ohio, so what?


****

Florida has not been called.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (piMMO)

270
in another four years this country will be so fucked up it might not elect another democrat for twenty years

Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (qEts0)

271 Obama ahead in Virginia?

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (4cRnj)

272 256
LOL. Fuck it. Obama will bankrupt us. Americans deserve every bit of what they get. The weak and stupid must suffer.

But they won't. The system is now being gamed to protect the weak and stupid and punish the strong and smart.

I guess it's time to learn to be weak and stupid.

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (z63Tr)

273 Christie Kreme Doughnut

Posted by: Redman Bluestate at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (sRIFP)

274 I can take losing to Teh Won. What really galls me is the slimy tactics of the O campaign, the death and riot tweets from folks who live on my dime and the stinking progressive media high-fiving each other for the next umpteen months.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (F22l6)

275 Jesus people. It's a projection.

Go to bed and wake up tomorrow. Let this shake out.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (uhAkr)

276 CMON OHIO DAMNIT!!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (csi6Y)

277 Fiscal cliff, here we come. Higher taxes and sequestration...jeezus, Obumbles has no reason to do anything resembling fiscal sanity...the tax bill April 2013 is going to crush middle class families, the US military becomes even weaker and Iran, Russia and China become even more bold. As for our true allies, so much for that.

Posted by: jas at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (ed6sV)

278 I have no idea what this country stands for anymore. Seriously. It's gimme-what-I-want country now.

I hate to say it, but why on earth would anyone volunteer to defend this land anymore? What exactly would they be defending?

Posted by: Tommy V at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (ZYlKz)

279 dont blame this on a hurricane, that would be weak. we need to take an honest look at a lot of things. I, for one, have secession at the top of my list.

Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (5UMyr)

280 Congrats trolls you "won". You earned the right to laugh it up (if you voted). Enjoy it now because you're probably not going to earn a whole lot of much soon. Give us your best now and dont come whining when the freebie spigot runs out.

Now purity repubs, you can fuck yourselves to hell.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (BdPNN)

281 >>> You idiots don't realize that there would be no difference between Romney and Obama

Romney wouldn't refuse to send help to an American ambassador and his staff in peril, or lie about it for months later, or have a VP who releases classified information, resulting in a SEAL team (the one that got Osama) being decimated in their transport helo ... then keep that VP on his ticket.

That level of disgraceful behavior is a uniquely President Obama quality.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (SKX2R)

282 Posted this below, reposting here:


I've bled, quite literally, to get to where I am today. I've fought and
struggled and why? For what? To watch as half the country decides they
want what I've earned?


Let me be as clear as I can be: I did
not party, I did not sleep around, I did not do drugs, I did not drink
heavily, I studied, I worked, I put my nose to the grindstone to have
some tiny, tiny measure of success. I tried to do the right thing. For
that I will be punished.


The moral of the story truly is never try.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (Gk3SS)

283 Romney was conservative enough! We lost because most of the country wants more taxes on the rich and a free ride!

Posted by: AnnaS at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (INyZp)

284 Well within the margin of fraud...

Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (HYD/Y)

285 This country is fucked. We still believe in the democratic process and the majority of people have chosen obama of their OWN FREE WILL. It's fucking over. It's done. This country isn't the same country your grandparents knew.

Posted by: ELKomandante at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (9Fjmj)

286 Prediction... Romney wins either Iowa or Colorado... And we are headed for weeks of recounts from Florida and Ohio.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (zrpqj)

287 Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (LCRYB)

Yeah, lets hang out hats on that.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (azmhu)

288 Anne Coulter hardest hit.

Posted by: trapeze at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (CPLlm)

289 Romney leads the popular vote by over a million. W.T.F. C'mon!

O is really trying to steal OH with Dems votng 1600 times each.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (KL49F)

290 Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM (nmZR6)

Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan gave this campaign everything they had, and it is shameful that you are placing the failures of this country on their shoulders.

Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (YjDyJ)

291 Even if another dem isn't elected for twenty years, the damage will already be done.

Posted by: Scarlet at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (9AU2U)

292 Joe Biden is going to be our vice president for another four years. I weep for our once-great nation.

Posted by: elprez at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM (4QO27)

that is the best thing to come out of an Obama re-election though

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (tw6Ar)

293 If Obama wins, Iran nukes Israel in the next four years months.

Posted by: Thinker at November 06, 2012 11:29 PM


FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (JMmQ9)

294 Never vote Republican again people......shove this Socialism down the throats of the country until they gag, and then choke them out.

Posted by: Jimi at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (uvNSk)

295 This is interesting on Fox right now.

Posted by: james at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (1PqiV)

296 I'll tell you what,no left winger will hear or see me depressed over this.I refuse.I'm going to go sign up for all the free shit Uncles Sugar offers.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (9XBK2)

297 Now we'll get to live in cute little apartments and drive cute little cars like they do in Europe. I can't wait.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (DoZD+)

298 >>> Congrats trolls you "won". You earned the right to laugh it up

Greg might be laughing. I'm not.

I love Romney. I hate Obama.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (SKX2R)

299 This country blows.

I want an Obama Phone now!

Posted by: Redman Bluestate at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (sRIFP)

300
Prediction... Romney wins either Iowa or Colorado... And we are headed for weeks of recounts from Florida and Ohio.
=======
At this point, I'll take it!

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (9ghZ6)

301 It still isn't over, folks. Votes are still being counted.

Posted by: Bluey Raisin at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (cybTa)

302 The problem is that we have two distinct countries, and the swing states are clearly more troubled by brain dead Jesus robots than they are about socialists assfucking the economy.

Posted by: Abe Froman at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (E55AK)

303 Meghan Kelly is a little bit crazy... just a little bit.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (zrpqj)

304 Not that anyone gives a fuck, but this is goodbye. I've read this blog for I don't know how many years. Seven? Eight? More? Haven't commented much—here and there under one name or another. The country is lost—sooner, later it hardly matters. Going to find something more rewarding to do with my time and keep my head down and my .357 loaded. Good luck.

Posted by: Zombie Eckert at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (R7H3g)

305 ______________________________


Now there is only one thing to do:

RESIST OBAMA EVERYWARE. EVERYWARE[B/]

And you know what I meant. GAWDAMM you know exactly what I mean. BEYONDS: SUCKS.






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (J+Q+d)

306
Fucking Bullshit.
Love of country, and vision of a future with jobs and prosperity trumped by Obama phones and free condoms.
What the fuck have we become?

Posted by: Gerry Owen at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (4ABat)

307 Romney a million ahead in popular vote. The electoral college is now an urban lock, especially with Dem dirty tricks in inner cities. I never understood why the states dropped their initiatives to divide their electoral votes. They were discussing it in PA then took it off table. Reform of the EC is the only way forward.

Posted by: TD, one of the proud 53% at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (+uFux)

308 Now purity repubs, you can fuck yourselves to hell.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (BdPNN)

--WTF are you talking about? Romney is not a "purity repub."

Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (jKE+Z)

309 Bright side: no riots (today) and Bush can't be blamed anymore for the shitstorm about to happen.

Here in South Central LA, the celebration includes fireworks. Just great.

Posted by: baldilocks, AfriCon American at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (Su0W2)

310 The margin of fraud.

If Obama wins, that's what this election is about.

Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (tUcg9)

311 Oh, and gas was 3.23 this evening on my way home from work. Let's see how fast that sucker goes up now.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (DoZD+)

312 don't blame this on a storm, or a fat guy, this belongs on the head of GOP Establishment and the canidate they selected for us.i'm done with Republicans, they are hopeless, useless pieces of shit, this election was laid out on platter for them to take, but their ever-present spinelessness gutlessness yet again turns victory into defeat and allows the Progressive agenda to progress onward and upward.

it's like they don't even want to win.

Posted by: Shoey at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (m6OUa)

313 This can't be over yet. What the hell???

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (csi6Y)

314 Perhaps a world war will save us from SCoaMF like it saved us from FDR.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (9XBK2)

315 Hmmm. It looks like Megyn Kelly is knock kneed

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (piMMO)

316 Oh, and VOTER FUCKIN' ID. Post haste!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (Q0B9b)

317 >>> Prediction... Romney wins either Iowa or Colorado... And we are headed for weeks of recounts from Florida and Ohio.

I doubt it, but I'll take that over a clear loss.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (SKX2R)

318 It's good news that Slow Joe will be VP for another four years. I hear he was penciled in to be CEO of Seven-Eleven.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (QK54y)

319 The next time some charity starts asking me for money, I'll tell them to go beg Obama, if most people want to have the state take our freedom and money away don't ask me to give away even more myself.

Posted by: To hel with it at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (Lrj3D)

320
Quit your whining, people.
This country made its choice.
Respect it.

Posted by: RayJ at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (pI/IV)

321 287 Well within the margin of fraud...
Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (HYD/Y)

OF COURSE! But who will contest it? Will Romney stand in the gap and shout to obama "You shall not pass?" Does he have it in him? Please Jesus let the answer be YES.

McCain was told in '08 that Obama stole OH and Mac turned a blind eye. Please Jesus, not again. Not this year. Not Mitt.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (KL49F)

322 Guys, come on. Some of the despair is a bit over the top.

Obama isn't stronger than he was when he first ran, the way so many socialist strongmen are. He's weaker, and squeaking by. The tide has turned against him, but only just. If this election were held next year, the Republicans would win. This is America. We've been far far stupider than this. We eventually figure it out.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (KDek4)

323 We will be Argentina within 4 years.

Posted by: Daily Dish at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (+b3dK)

324 And, regardless of the voting, the liveblog SUCKED SWALLOWED.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (QK54y)

325 ________________________

fuck

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (J+Q+d)

326 So, second look at Obama as Antichrist?

Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (hO9ad)

327 Unless I am mistaken >49% agree with us. I believe we are finally free of the country club Republican set. If we have learned nothing else lets accept that we need a fighter as our guy.

Hunker down and fight for all you have. Get in the foxhole with someone you trust. It will get worse before real change will come.

This round was won by the media. Their reward is coming.

Posted by: BrianInWisconsin at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (MsOp2)

328 Well, a hurricane AND the fact that enough Americans are not so unbelievably stupid as to forget what 8 years of Republican rule did to your country.

Posted by: goofy at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (2hAfE)

329 If we change the results to reflect Rasmussen Party affiliation, Romney won by like 8%!

Posted by: Unskewed Polls at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (mcWHD)

330 _________________________


oh fuck






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (J+Q+d)

331 get ready for the 10% VAT tax... $8 / gallon gas...


Posted by: phreshone at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (MAhUT)

332 Blame single White women ... and married White women. They put Obama over the top. They love him. He's their God, fantasy boyfriend, and media god. That's what most women are.

How do I know that? Because what Obama did to win. He pushed women, women, women, and contraception, contraception, and abortion. If you're spending $3K a year on contraception, well you're have an awful lot of sex.

There is no Ulsterman Insider. That was BS. This nation is hard left. The media, university system, government, law, everything hard left. Its Open Borders, life in a third world hell-hole, and guess what, your average Eat Pray Love, "the Help" worshiping White woman is fine with that.

Also, Obama is BLACK. That's huge for White women, who really do view them as magical repositories of goodness and wisdom and so on just like Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman in the movies.

The most passionate, motivated, energized, conservative base and you get ... Obama re-elected. With total amnesty, open borders, gun confiscations, the end of the First and Second Amendments, drone killings HERE, and a miserable, failed economy that resembles Argentina's. Guess what, most Americans (Blacks+Mexicans+Sandra Flukes=most) are happy with that. They like it.

What, you thought turning Hollywood into SWPL yuppiedom, most American women into Sex and the City Sluts (and really, they ARE) would not have consequences? That failure to act in 1986 when you could have stopped REAGAN from importing a slice of Mexico would not show up later? America is Tijuana. America is the Wire. And its Sex and the City. Not all of it, but enough that it does not matter.

Posted by: whiskey at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (L03mw)

333 I really hope Romney squeaks out OH so he only loses by 70 EVs.

Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (EX+sq)

334 Now we'll get to live in cute little apartments and drive cute little cars like they do in Europe.

♫ A Prius for everyone .... ♪

/punches wall

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (u+152)

335 Israel/Iran blows up within a month. The SCOAMF is to guide us through that minefield? Truly frightening.

16 trillion in debt and counting. Runaway entitlement spending to continue unchecked. Steven Chu and the EPA set to drive energy prices to the moon. "Natural Gas" is a curse word. The floor for unemployment is now set at 8%, permanently. Anyone with money is now frantically trying to figure out where to put it.

Hope you are enjoying your "suck it" moment, liberal trolls. We are all going to be sucking it in togetherness for a long, long time. Hope you're prepared. I am.

Posted by: Killface at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (dr0xf)

336 Let's not do the sore loser thing.

Posted by: schizoid at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (feRPT)

337 Now purity repubs, you can fuck yourselves to hell.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (BdPNN)

How in the heck are "purity" republicans or socons responsible for this when GOP primary voters rejected Santorum?

Posted by: Nate at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (BBlzg)

338 Romney should just NOT concede and let things breathe for a bit.

Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (0LX7P)

339 Guys, come on. Some of the despair is a bit over the top.

Obama isn't stronger than he was when he first ran, the way so many socialist strongmen are. He's weaker, and squeaking by. The tide has turned against him, but only just. If this election were held next year, the Republicans would win. This is America. We've been far far stupider than this. We eventually figure it out.

-----

What are we not understand about 16 trillion in debt and a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit? We are not that far from completely falling off the cliff on going Greece. Why do people think this can't happen here?

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (arczc)

340 'Tis a nation of fat babies. Let's just change our name to Greece.

Posted by: George Orwell what know the nation is dead at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (AZGON)

341 __________________________

please, fuck : OH FUCK.


Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (J+Q+d)

342 >>>don't blame this on a storm, or a fat guy, this belongs on the head of
GOP Establishment and the canidate they selected for us.i'm done with
Republicans, they are hopeless, useless pieces of shit, this election
was laid out on platter for them to take, but their ever-present
spinelessness gutlessness yet again turns victory into defeat and
allows the Progressive agenda to progress onward and upward.


I'm going to suggest that anyone saying this sort of thing include the name of the candidate they think would have won, rather than just suggesting a vague "someone else."



Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (LCRYB)

343 <<Now purity repubs, you can fuck yourselves to hell.>>

Um...I compromised my principles AGAIN and voted for a Republican I didn't like...a lot of us did.

How about "Centrists" go fuck themselves to hell? Get us a candidate we can believe in!

I will never again compromise my Conservative values to vote for an establishment candidate.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (UU6uJ)

344 I hope the grain gets delivered on time.......

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (l3vZN)

345 Am I watching something from the past or has no one given a concession speech yet and we are STILL waiting for Ohio?..possible recount?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (53riN)

346 Showing up to work drunk tomorrow to get fired at least I'll get paid till my liver gives out.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (cLAkX)

347
The day after '04 I saw a lady driving around with "4 more years of Hell" painted on her rear windshield. I laughed at her.
=========
Now I could do that, except I'd be right.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (9ghZ6)

348 Well, maybe, finally, the House will decide that the debt ceiling vote is the hill to die on and force the 47% to lose their 'free stuff'. Playing the other side of that coin sure didn't work, so Boehner better tell SCOAMF to work with the revenue coming in, no more, no less.

Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (WAUbf)

349 323 Quit your whining, people.This country made its choice.Respect it.
Posted by: RayJ at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (pI/IV)

Obama stole you asshole. Dems were voting 1600 times in OH, Somalis being bussed in, Chicagoans bussed into IA, electronic machines only switching Romney votes to O, NBPP intimidating voters in Philly. O STOLE this and I pray Mitt is the ONE who will fight. McCain refused.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (KL49F)

350 in another four years this country will be so fucked up it might not elect another democrat for twenty years

Posted by: kj at November 06, 2012 11:32 PM (qEts0)


I said that four years ago. Not so sure now. They're gonna turn us into Eastern Europe while the world burns.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (6JMZR)

351 Trolls and weak-kneed twits are everywhere.

Posted by: eman at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (beMhL)

352 I hope this isn't Fox News theatrics

Posted by: SJR2 at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (oCbCP)

353 293
Gov. Romney and Rep. Ryan gave this campaign everything they had, and it is shameful that you are placing the failures of this country on their shoulders.


Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (YjDyJ)
-----The problem wasn't the candidates, it's the electorate. We've become a nation of whining children who want government to give us candy. That's all there is to it.Obama sucked even worse than I expected he would, and yet he gets reelected? There's nothing anyone could have done. The country's changed.

Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (s8XaI)

354 recount? you need to have votes to recount. The Romney GOTV failed.

Posted by: joeindc44 has a D+10 sample for you at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (Z3ckx)

355 The old Big Tent fusion of evangelicals, fiscal conservatives foreign policy neocons can now cease pretending they are friends with compatible aims - and can form their own niche parties and attempt to start over.

The new big tent is blue - and very, very expensive. Unlike many others here, I hope Obama can bring the do-nothings to heel and begin governing in earnest.

Posted by: Paul at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (bFqga)

356 I CANNOT FUCKING BELIEVE IT:

Dem early voting way way down.
Republican voting off the charts.

But Obama wins.

Something stinks.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (hlUJY)

357 Hey, not for nothing, but focus your rage where it belongs; inner-city voters and morons who want free shit. Ripping Ace of the posts, or the live-blogs is a dick move.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (Q0B9b)

358 __________________________


gawdamn!!!!!!!!! - I simply CANNOT believe it! PLEASE GOD.






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (J+Q+d)

359 Blame single White women ...


Come say that to this single white woman's face. Please. I'm begging you.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (Gk3SS)

360 Dear God, I hope the Mayans were right.

Bring me home, SMOD!

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (JycCV)

361 306 Meghan Kelly is a little bit crazy... just a little bit.
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:34 PM (zrpqj)

You know what .. I know the guys really like her because she is hot but she is just too fucking giggling for me sometimes. Its the news not entertainment ... well, maybe it is .. FOX is just like the rest of them.

Posted by: osu at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (G4dDt)

362 Who ever did the internal polling for Romney--

I question it.

Might have been a Dem.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (r2PLg)

363 Chris Cristie needs to pay.

Posted by: Mega at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (idyso)

364 Thought I would repeat this from another thread. Also, if anyone thought Romney lost this then go away like I am going to do after tonight. We are done, the American people do not want principled people anymore. We want dagos pimping around on the Jersey Shore. We want people who can sing karaoke to be our next heroes. I am so mad that I took a blind eye to where this fucking country was going. It's gone people, start realizing it. Here is my earlier rant, and to all of you much love and hopefully your lives will be fulfilled to heights of great happiness.


I have been following this blog/site since 2006 and it to me is the greatest site on the internet. I have had so much fun but now it's over. We lost this country tonight and we will not get it back. It is over people. All those fucks we wish we could hang from lampposts are right and we are completely wrong. I am officially done with politics, the internet and my veteran status. I just shredded my DD214 and will never honor this country again. It is over and since I am 49 with a bad back I am pretty much over since there will never be the jobs we can hope for. This is bullshit that my country that I served could be so fucked up that they would elect a Muslim loving marxist piece of shit not once but twice. I am done with this country and this country can kiss my ass. I love you guys who have brought joy and laughter to me throughout these 6 years, but that is enough. I am done, I am retired from this shit. I can't take it anymore. Love you guys and I will hope to see you on the other side. By the way, Dave in Florida fuck you!

Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (ZOf1l)

365 I'm going John Galt. Trip to Vegas post Thanksgiving CANCELED. I figure those unions apparently don't want my rich Republican money. I'll also continue to drive my current auto rather than buy a new one. And when I do get a new one it'll be German made. Vacations will be spent in Red States.

Hurricane Sandy didn't cause this. It doesn't explain the Senate election results.

Posted by: ilrndude at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (aUnng)

366 Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (LCRYB)

So you no longer think Perry would have beat Obama?

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (azmhu)

367 6 America is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: Pastorius at November 06, 2012 11:19 PM (gMAUH)


...and so it goes.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (BchkC)

368 6
America is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Thread Winner.

Posted by: I'm going Galt now at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (5qcd7)

369 _______________________


i AM sICK.



Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (J+Q+d)

370 Slow down and take a breath. This election is too important to let the media darlings for the sake of ratings, rattle cages. Think polls were purposely posed as close, so people would eat up hook, line and sinker, a narrative of calling it for Obama.

A trick for Romney to concede? Who knows.

Posted by: Deli LLama at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (lGu1O)

371 Fuck it, I say Rombley pull a Gore and make this shit as nasty as possible. Seriously, what has he got to lose?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (uD2fR)

372 FNC Decision Desk: "99.95 percent"

Teh 'Morons': "So.. you're saying there's a chance?"

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (zrpqj)

373 >> Why do people think this can't happen here?

It can happen here. But it's not likely. Not in four years, with a resurgent GOP.

I'm not taking our problems lightly, but I don't see any reason to think we're doomed, either. It's very unfortunate, and there's a huge opportunity cost, but we'll get by.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (KDek4)

374 363 __________________________


gawdamn!!!!!!!!! - I simply CANNOT believe it! PLEASE GOD.






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (J+Q+d)


_________

Hang in there buddy.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (r2PLg)

375 I think we have to consider ourselves either POWs for the next four years, or the Resistance. I like Resistance better.

We're going to have to shake this off, clear our heads and think up a strategy.

I am going back and forth between anger and determination. Because despair can not be an option.

Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (F3s39)

376 292 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (KL49F) - __________ 1600 votes per person? Source please?

Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (opS9C)

377 Anyone who says Mitt "lost" this b/c he was Establishment is full of BS and prob a fucking Palinbot. Mitt couldn't have been more conservative on the #1 issue, the ECONOMY. He is completely fiscally conservative. He chose the most so-con running mate, too.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (KL49F)

378 So can we get on with impeaching him now?

Posted by: mynks at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (MNB5Z)

379 >>>What are we not understand about 16 trillion in debt and a 1.5
trillion dollar deficit? We are not that far from completely falling off
the cliff on going Greece. Why do people think this can't happen here?

I do think it can happen here.

It's going to be bad.

At the end of the day all countries get the leaders they deserve. This unfortunate rule applies to America as well.


Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (LCRYB)

380 Since God has promised that Israel will not be destroyed, I want to live there. It seems the only safe place on the planet.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:30 PM (KL49F)
Fuck. If I'm Bibi Netanyahu, the nuclear first strike on Iran is already airborne.

Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (hO9ad)

381 Obama and his supporters are probably the most ungracious winners we have ever seen. And that's scary, because that's what you see in third world countries.

Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (HYD/Y)

382 things are going to get a lot worse. period. Unless there's some sort of pop vote reflection on electoral votes, then we're are truly fucked. I hope all of you have nice cushy government jobs.

Posted by: joeindc44 has a D+10 sample for you at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (Z3ckx)

383 What do we have to lose by contesting? Really, what do we have to lose? I say make them recount just to fuck with them.

Posted by: osu at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (G4dDt)

384 unbelievably stupid as to forget what 8 years of Republican rule did to your country.



Posted by: goofy at November 06, 2012 11:36 PM (2hAfE)

To think I forgot about that 5% unemployment and 2$ gas....holy shit am I glad Obama won again

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (FIDMq)

385 After election judging for 16 hours, I didn't need to see by intrade account so diminished.

Who are the %$^ that voted for this guy? Really.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (X/+QT)

386 361 I CANNOT FUCKING BELIEVE IT:

Dem early voting way way down.
Republican voting off the charts.

But Obama wins.

Something stinks.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (hlUJY)



there are more shnorrers than workers

more Pauls than Peters

Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (40anC)

387 ________________________


Fuck. fuck. Fuck. fuck. Fuck. GAWDAMN fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (J+Q+d)

388 @ace
"Such as life" Fuck you!

Posted by: James Madison at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (Il8JM)

389 @323

Fuck You!

Posted by: Jimi at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (uvNSk)

390 Argh. Looks like we're wrapping up here. For all the "country-club" naysayers, I have a question: do you really think that America is more worried about Mitt Romney + Paul Ryan, or Akin and Mourdock?

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (fXInK)

391 The red state people all need to move to red states. We outnumber them.

Posted by: sigh at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (Qn1/k)

392 373 6
America is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Thread Winner.
Posted by: I'm going Galt now at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (5qcd7)

_________________

Half--damn it.

Half.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (r2PLg)

393 >>> 315 this belongs on the head of GOP Establishment and the canidate they selected for us.

What GOP establishment? NAME THEM. Gawd, I'm sick of this "nefarious" paranoia "establishment" bullshit excuse. VOTERS decide on the candidates, not some smoke-filled, backroom cabal. Grow the fuck up.

Posted by: Punahou Death Stare at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (sTS/8)

394 Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (opS9C)

I saw it twice on twitter, the poster was asked to provide a link... haven't seen follow-up yet.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (KL49F)

395 Let's not turn on each other.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (9XBK2)

396 BTW, if I can recall my experience in Fl in 2004, we didn't see Ohio go for W until 2am. I hope that that is the case here. But otherwise, I am going to get an abortion right now. because I can.

Posted by: joeindc44 has a D+10 sample for you at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (Z3ckx)

397 If you want to see the future of America, look at Brazil. We are fucked.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (ZPrif)

398 IT IS TIME.

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (J+Q+d)

399

IT IS TIME.

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (J+Q+d)

400 I for one welcome our new ant king overlord.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (Ea64Y)

401 174 On the brighter side, I haven't offed myself yet and Romney has more time to write his concession speech.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (ccXZP)

402 358 293 -----The problem wasn't the candidates, it's the electorate. We've
become a nation of whining children who want government to give us
candy. That's all there is to it.Obama sucked even worse than I expected
he would, and yet he gets reelected? There's nothing anyone could have
done. The country's changed.


I agree 100%. This nation does not deserve to survive and it was only by God's grace we made it this far.

Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (YjDyJ)

403 IT IS TIME

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (J+Q+d)

404 Ha ha Hawaii doesn't matter again.

Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (EX+sq)

405 Fuck all things Ohio. is there anyway we can vaporize the state to make it disappear. California too...as soon as I move.

Posted by: Yobobbyb at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (VzkNh)

406 Hey Palin Haters - Alaska has yet to be called, so you'll have to play with yourselves for awhile.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (QK54y)

407 >>>382 Anyone who says Mitt "lost" this b/c he was Establishment is full of BS and prob a fucking Palinbot.

This Xeleventy.

I'd like to remind the Palinistas that they successfully trolled the three other viable alternatives to Romney; Perry, Pawlenty and Daniels due to their incessant teeth gnashing in order to clear the field for Saint Sarah.

Then when she didn't throw in, we were stuck with a gaggle of fruitcakes and Romney.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (JycCV)

408
Odd, most of Miami has come in for Florida now but the margin has hardly budged.

Obama squeaks ahead in VA with NoVA all coming in.

So it's:
45k margin in FL
30k in Ohio
10k in Virginia

Might be fun times going forward!

Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (RstsB)

409
It just goes to show you, you can buy 51% of the people in the right states and you will win.

Its the takers vs. the givers and the takers are winning.

Congrats to the takers, I'm going Galt. And I am going Turbo Timmy on taxes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (PHb2k)

410 it's all wishcasting until the final vote has been counted

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (JMmQ9)

411 Romney sucked. Todd Akin 2016!

Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (EX+sq)

412 You all need to read about something called the "external locus of control."

You all blame your problems on others. Other politicians, other races, other classes.

Never yourselves.

And thus you will never be satisfied with your lives or happy with anything.

Posted by: Moses Hong-Levinson at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (Qk4RS)

413 400 Let's not turn on each other.
Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (9XBK2)

______________

steevy, is very, very wise.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (r2PLg)

414 I have said before. My health insurance rates have just gone up $148 per month.

I am trying to figure out how to get through Thanksgiving and Christmas with my union teacher sister in law without shrieking at her. I will continue to scrimp and pay the costs of everything that has gone up since that bastard got into office. But the days of my keeping my mouth shut while that woman bitches because as a retiree she has to pay 20% of her health insurance are gone. Union members don't give a damn about anyone but themselves and I am ready to tell her that.

We are turning into a nation of selfish children who want to be taken care of by the government.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (jLiVY)

415
Fucking Bullshit.
Love of country, and vision of a future with jobs and prosperity trumped by Obama phones and free condoms.
What the fuck have we become?





Perpetual teenagers.


Oh, and Springsteen is white so I'm pretty sure he's going to Hell.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (DoZD+)

416 the country deserves purgatory,
i hope we get it

Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (40anC)

417 And no, a Hurricane did not make the difference. It was baked in the demographics all the while. Obama could see it, and you could not.

Virginia of all places is over-run with a substantial portion of Mexico. Did anyone realistically think Mexicans would vote Gringo? Get real. White guys are the ENEMY.

Blacks vote early and often, White guys from the suburbs don't fraudulently vote because prison is unpleasant for them, for most Blacks (60% are ghetto/urban core) prison is like family reunion and a vacation. And unlikely for voting fraud.

Your average White woman under 45 has a whole lot of partners. Even the married ones are more like Sandra Fluke than not. Most of the men around her repulse her, and exude beta male suburban loser. Not cool, sexy, media-approved Black President. My guess is White women put Obama way over the top.

It wasn't a hurricane. It was that most White women are Sandra Fluke. I don't care who they sleep with only who they vote for, but sadly the two are closely related.

Posted by: whiskey at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (L03mw)

418 Candy Crowley deserves tar and feathers.

Posted by: George at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (W7x8r)

419
Anyone who says Mitt "lost" this b/c he was Establishment is full of BS
and prob a fucking Palinbot. Mitt couldn't have been more conservative
on the #1 issue, the ECONOMY. He is completely fiscally conservative. He
chose the most so-con running mate, too.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (KL49F)

bwaahahaha

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (tw6Ar)

420 >>>So you no longer think Perry would have beat Obama?

Well, as you know, I always thought Perry was a good bet. The trouble was, I mean, he buffoonized himself several times.

I mean, are you asking me hypothetically if he could have reversed that? Lot of hypotheticals there.

Perry's stance on immigration, for example, almost guaranteed he could not win the primary. But it could have won him the presidency. if you hypothetically assume he wouldn't have sounded like an idiot on the campaign trail or debates. And if you're willing to live with that immigration policy.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (LCRYB)

421 We still have a formidable blocking force with the House majority and the inability of the Democrat senate to block a filibuster (less than 60 votes). He may have been reelected but they don't have to make it easy for him.

Posted by: rplat at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (ew94K)

422 more Pauls than Peters
Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (40anC)

Have you seen the popular vote? Mitt's winning by a million! We do not have more Pauls than Peters. It's just the electoral college screwing us right now. The Left does NOT have the majority!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (KL49F)

423 We really do have this many fuckups in this country. My faith in humanity now extends only to my family, close friends, and the moron horde.

May God have mercy on our souls.

Posted by: ddiddly at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (zn2GB)

424
Memo to Pennsylvania and Ohio"Catholics" who voted for Obama:
Eat shit and die!
Fuck you very much,
KDD

Posted by: King Ding Dong at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (EFl3q)

425 348 >

If Mitt lost (which I'm not yet convinced of) it proves the northeastern Republican strategy - as practiced by winners Scott Brown and Chris Christie - doesn't work.

Build on indpendents and you build on mud.

And defeating an incumbent is hard - when Clinton did it, he had Perot.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (uhAkr)

426 Hawaii hasn't mattered since it got destroyed in the Sugar Bowl by Georgia.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (QK54y)

427 this country is fucked, we're Europe now. ObamaCare will NEVER go away... the Government owns us all, body and soul.I hope youunderstand what that means.
what pitful little freedom we had left is gone, there is nothing about us any different than any other shithole in the world.

Posted by: Shoey at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (m6OUa)

428 To extend and clarify on my post in 395: there's definitely a huge number of people who enjoy being in the wagon rather than pulling it, but indies decide races (at least, so I've been told to believe). Do *independents* get turned off more by RR, or by Akin and Mourdock and their ilk?

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (fXInK)

429 Good bumpersticker.
Fight Evil. Resist Obama.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (ZPrif)

430 140
I'm confused. Looking at the AOSHQ results of ohio county by county, O only won 11 counties.

Can someone explain this to me?

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (z63Tr)

431 It could be that we're just too damn stupid, as a society, to govern ourselves.

I mean seriously, the last 2-years were so much fun and frolic that we just voted the same President, (likely) the same Senate and the same House back into office? Seriously?

Fuck it all.

Posted by: DocJ at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (3pbsp)

432 242 Demographics matter. It has nothing to do with race, but culture. Unfortunately, Hispanic and Black cultures promote horrible governments; see Latin America. Unless their culture changes, we're screwed.
-

It has everything to do with race. Reducing Whites every year as a share of the population (by chronic non-White mass immigration and other means) reduces the share of the population willing to listen to conservative arguments.

The White share of the population is now small enough that President Obama can be re-elected with a lousy economy.

The Republican Party has two paths before it. One is, start helping the Whites, so the Whites can help it.

The other path leads to California and worse.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (4qa9e)

433 369 Samuel Adams:

Good luck to you, and thank you for your service, sir.

I will fly my flag upside down tomorrow, and then no more.

Posted by: rickl at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (sdi6R)

434 I hope Romney sues anyway. The Dems sure would.

Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (HYD/Y)

435
WTF!!!!
This ain't over....what is with the "BOO-HOO!!!!!??"

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (tKpj6)

436 The red state people all need to move to red states. We outnumber them.



And produce 90+% of the goods and taxes in this country. Let the Obama voters support them-fkn-selves for a few years and see how they like it.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (/Rruc)

437

it is time





Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (J+Q+d)

438 Tipping point. We hit it.

I don't see how we save this country now. Too much debt, life appointments in the court, entrenchment of Obamacare, bad demographics and race-based voting.

We're fucked. The country we love I'm afraid is over. We are something else now.

Posted by: Tommy V at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (ZYlKz)

439 323

Quit your whining, people.
This country made its choice.
Respect it.


Posted by: RayJ at November 06, 2012 11:35 PM (pI/IV80



Kindly go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (UOM48)

440
Steevy,
That's right. Let's not turn on each other. This isn't over yet. Really, I'm not being a pollyanna here, either.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (Md8Uo)

441 Seriously, STFU with the impeachment talk.

If tonight hasn't brought you back to the stark reality we face electorally and politically, you're fucking hopeless.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (uD2fR)

442 THEOCRAT!

Posted by: Cackfinger at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (CCHli)

443 Whoever was manning the GOP Weather Control Hardware royally screwed up this time.

Posted by: Cameron at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (hwUXQ)

444 You want to hear what a heartless fuck I am? My elderly father voted for this c*cksucker last time around, and this time too. He just recently lost his "HUD" - whatever that crap is, and his foodstamps were cut in half.

He's gonna come crying to me for money and he can go fucking starve. I am not joking. He came from a communist country, so he should have known better. He can fucking starve. If he wants more food he's better call the goddamned white house chef.

I am a libertarian who voted for Romney and any other dem and conservative I could find on the ballot. At least I tried.

Posted by: G.Marie at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (i0yTO)

445 The American Republic will endure until the day Congress Obama discovers that it can bribe the public with the China's money.

--Alexis de Tocqueville

Another emendation.

Posted by: Concern Troll at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (b1iOR)

446

it is TIME






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (J+Q+d)

447 >>>nd no, a Hurricane did not make the difference. It was baked in the
demographics all the while. Obama could see it, and you could not.

dude, national polling average shifted from a +1 Romney lead to a tie.


Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (LCRYB)

448 421
You guys picked a private equity banker specializing in greed,
selfishness and bending the rules against the little guy......how stupid
was that??


Posted by: walter at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (7wWIO)
You picked a guy who doesn't know shit about economics. How's that working?

Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (s8XaI)

449 Posted by: 80sBaby at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (YjDyJ)
-----The
problem wasn't the candidates, it's the electorate. We've become a
nation of whining children who want government to give us candy. That's
all there is to it.Obama sucked even worse than I expected he would, and
yet he gets reelected? There's nothing anyone could have done. The
country's changed.


Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (s8XaI)

Exactly. The character of the country's people has changed. It's WTF, free birth control pills, Facebook me, video games 12 hours straight, collect my Obama check, r u going out tonite?, OMG did you see '16 and Pregnant' ?, work? what is that? O shit, ima go vote for O.


Posted by: Sphynx at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (F22l6)

450
Fox's coverage tonight has been...horrible.

Wisconsin looks to me to still be in play, too.
So it's not just Ohio.

Posted by: wheatie at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (ICEh3)

451 Rove is on FOX saying, "Whoa!..not so fast, folks..."
..aaaannnd he' ssaying that it's REPUBLICAN counties that aren't counted yet.


Geez...am I a complete fool for hoping against hope?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM (53riN)

452 If you want to see the future of America, look at Brazil. We are fucked.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (ZPrif)

so we're drilling for oil again?

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (tw6Ar)

453 How the fuck did we lose Florida?


I feel sick.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (4cRnj)

454 We lick our wounds for a while, and gear up for 2014, when a quarter or so of the low info idiot demographic won't be stirred to show up without a Presidential race at the top of the ticket.

It's the houses fault will be the cry for the next 2 years, and we'll have to stay engaged and let these guys know we're counting on them. Lord help us all.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (UvR6d)

455 You all need to read about something called the "external locus of control."



You all blame your problems on others. Other politicians, other races, other classes.



Never yourselves.



And thus you will never be satisfied with your lives or happy with anything.



When the external locus of control has a gun and can put it to my head and pull the trigger when I refuse to pay taxes to support someone else, then, yes, I do indeed believe that I am not in control of my life.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (Gk3SS)

456 414 Romney sucked. Todd Akin 2016!
Posted by: Sugar Fatty at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (EX+sq)

He did the best that could be done. Reps plus indies.
too many parasites and libtards.

Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (40anC)

457 Ohio does not matter, Florida is lost.

Posted by: TheGarbone- The Rubio 2012 Guy at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (cEDzL)

458 He's gonna take away your rubbers for the pope!

Posted by: Cackfinger at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (CCHli)

459


IT IS TIME






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (J+Q+d)

460 Where's that half-Mexican George Bush? Somebody get that boy a teleprompter.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (ZPrif)

461 It wasn't just the hurricane, it was also the media embargo of Benghazi, perhaps the most nakedly partisan media coverup in recent memory.

Posted by: Looking closely at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (+PDlV)

462 409 Hey Palin Haters - Alaska has yet to be called, so you'll have to play with yourselves for awhile.
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:40 PM (QK54y)

What does that have to do with anything? AK disowned Palin, at least from popularity polls dones after her celebrity turn.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (KL49F)

463 How many provisional ballots are there in these states? Like Absentees, they aren't part of the regular "%reporting" because they aren't even generally in the right precinct yet. Yes?

Posted by: Al at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (MzQOZ)

464 Like many others, I blame this on the fact that most American's have lost there Sprit. Too many people think nothing of the idea that the Goverment is supposed to remove any risk from your life by propping up a failed workplace or giving them freebies. I see little reason to offer help to anyone who is not my family anymore. Why help prop up a broken system.

Posted by: To hel with it at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (Lrj3D)

465 "I'm going to suggest that anyone saying this sort of thing include the name of the candidate they think would have won, rather than just suggesting a vague "someone else.""isuggest you go fuck yourself

Posted by: Shoey at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (m6OUa)

466 Really? Blaming the hurricane? This was called WITHOUT FLORIDA. This is a fucking ass kicking. Romney never had a chance.

Posted by: Paul Kroenke at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (UQ27y)

467 Go Rove

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (gjIQF)

468 We may find out what it was like to be in the Gore Campaign when they "won" I know that there are issues in that statement, it may happen that Gov Romney wins the popular vote and the President the Electoral College.


Posted by: jjdcoach at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (EC1Pt)

469 This was not Sandy. It was not being outspent. It was not a weak candidate. It was the American people. Our founders and our soldiers gave this nation the right to choose its own destiny, and it has. America did not change tonight; the change has been going on for years, and I only just now am realizing we are truly F-ed with a capital F.

Posted by: Dante at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (GRgdL)

470 Well that about wraps it up for god.

Posted by: Oolon Colluphid at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (FMbng)

471 Romney lost because the media covers for Obama. Period. He ran a great campaign and the media, once the election is over, will suddenly decide to look at Benghazzi.

The people in the media are traitors to the country. They sold out the people at Benghazzi in order to promote their own political agenda.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (jLiVY)

472 Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 11:38 PM (F3s39)

The FIRST rule of the Resistance.... don't talk about the resistance...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (lZBBB)

473 The Senate is not going to impeach Obama. We are stuck with him it sucks.

Posted by: Wi Lurker at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (9pqWr)

474 323

Quit your whining, people.
This country made its choice.
Respect it.

Quit your trolling, asshole.
This country just fucked up.
Fuck it.

Posted by: I'm going Galt now at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (5qcd7)

475 Yes offense, but http://www.aoshqdd.com/ was a complete joke - Romney is ahead 191 to 130.

Unless CAC is dead, he has some splainin' to do.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (QK54y)

476 On the bright side, I just saved 15% on my car insurance by calling Geico

Posted by: Killface at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (dr0xf)

477 As I said before the election, it's a poisoned chalice for whomever won it.

Even before the end of this year, we have yet another debt ceiling collision.

Then starting right out of the gate next year we have:

-- The sequestration and expiring tax cut "fiscal cliff", which in their combined effect will knock 3 to 4 points of GDP off an economy that's only growing at 2% right now

-- Obamacare mandates kicking in, and causing millions of ordinary workers to either lose their health insurance or pay considerably higher rates for it

-- Millions of full-time workers being dropped to part-time, or part-timers having their hours cut back, again due to Obamacare mandates

-- Energy costs are going to go through the roof due to "renewables" mandates and carbon restrictions and power plants closing. R-R might at least have been able to do something quickly about this, but Obama won't. Energy cost increases hit EVERYTHING in the economy all at once in a negative way

-- Food prices are going to take off like a Saturn V rocket this coming year. Part drought, part demand. Everything. From commodity wheat, corn, and soy down to the finished product food at your local deli counter or supermarket. Meat will become an increasingly rare indulgence for a lot of Americans

-- More ratings agency downgrades to U.S. municipal bond debt, county debt, state debt, and sovereign debt. Private sector debt too! Soon you will see certain bond funds being forced to dump some of this stuff because its rating has fallen below what their charters permit them to hold. Interest rates will have to go up. Capital is going to get scarce everywhere.

-- Iran will go full bore on nuclear weapon capability and probably attain it by the end of 2013. Contrary to what Joe Biden says, Iran does have delivery systems that can get a crude nuke to Israel. And they will soon have ones that can get a second generation nuke to America

-- A nuclear Iran will increase the "risk premium" on Persian Gulf oil and gas even higher. This will bump up energy costs even further on top of the "green" madness. I figure we will see another wave of airline bankruptcies, for one thing, and you won't be flying much once you see what happens to ticket prices

All in all, I would guess we are up to a virtual certainty of a nasty recession in 2013.

I would give you even odds that we will see a truly severe economic crisis before the end of Obama's second term. It might simply develop out of the now expected 2013 recession and get worse and worse.

Romney and Ryan might have been able to do something about some of this. Not now. Instead, it's ALL right in Obama's lap. He owns it. And while blaming Bush four years later for bad economic conditions worked this year, it's going to be a less and less effective argument as time passes.


Posted by: torquewrench at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (ymG7s)

478 Seriously, Palinistas and assorted TrueCon Avengers...what the fuck could Romney have done differently?

Not enough: 'FUCK YOU OBAMA, LICK MY ASS, SUCK MY BALLS, KISS MY ASS YOU COMMIE TRAITOR! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!"?

Yeah, that doesn't win elections.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (JycCV)

479 A storm and Bin Laden. Two fucking things that he had absolutely nothing to do with. All the failures he fostered meant nothing.

Fuck this country. We're finished.

Posted by: radar at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (UbITQ)

480 Go to bed. Or bite the cyanide capsule. Obama now has a 40K lead in Virginia.

Posted by: Chris R at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (qP4e9)

481 434
140

I'm confused. Looking at the AOSHQ results of ohio county by county, O only won 11 counties.

Can someone explain this to me?

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (z63Tr)

sweet sweet urban welfare

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (FIDMq)

482 If we couldn't beat Obama with Mitt Romney, who's competence and first debate performance garnered a certain affection from me, then who in the world could have beaten Cocksucker, aside from Regan?

New MEME: I'm just calling him president cocksucker from now on. I suggest you all join in. And I don't want to hear any respect the presidency bullshit.

Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (0LX7P)

483
Some bitch down the street is cheering.

Does anybody see what I see?

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (9ghZ6)

484 _________________________

it is not fox's network FAULT






Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (J+Q+d)

485
Shibumi @ 434

But they were really BIG populous counties. (Ohio)

It also appears that Romney is losing Virginia.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (Md8Uo)

486 You can tell from the language of most here, there
are many non-religious people, but I can tell that you indeed do have a
god, the gods of consumption and patronage and those who like those gods
do so because they aren't smart or ambitious enough to achieve anything
in their lives, and they are probably w/out children they love as well.


Posted by: gayle in ca at November 06, 2012 11:22 PM (wgmUB)

Hey, little girl, the only requirement to be saved is accept Jesus the
Christ as one's Savior. I don't recall restraining from using harsh language as a commandment. Jesus, himself, used harsh language when he called the Pharisees "white-washed tombs"--basically pieces of shit as it was considered back in those days in that culture.Who are you to judge anyone's relationship with God? Nobody.

Posted by: baldilocks, AfriCon American at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (Su0W2)

487 Okay, I'm over my tantrum. Time to smoke 'em if you got 'em, because from here on in it gets really real.

Edwards was right, in a way: there are two Americas. If we want our America to win out, we'll have to be tougher. At least, I will have to be tougher. A lot of you all are tough enough already.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (IlZPo)

488 My son is so discouraged. I tried to tell him that obama can no longer blame the previous administration.. The shit will hit the fan for him...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (9+ccr)

489 actually the AVERAGE national polling shifted from Romney +1 to Obama +1.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (LCRYB)

490 Geez...am I a complete fool for hoping against hope?

Let's pretend Mitt wins OH somehow and Fox's call is wrong. He's losing VA, FL and the other state to make 270.

He'd have to get 4 straight flushes tonight. It ain't happening.

Posted by: Unskewed Polls at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (mcWHD)

491 No, the Senate is not going to impeach D'ohbama - not a constitutional scholar, I see.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (QK54y)

492 Time for Texas to kick it up a notch - all you conservative folks in those blue states?
Get the fuck out while you can.
It is going to get ugly.
Texas may be the last place in the WORLD that will be able to stand up against tyranny....
At least I will die trying.

Posted by: izoneguy at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (oKH8p)

493 462
Ohio does not matter, Florida is lost.




And I say again, STOP WITH THE RUBIO. If he can;t give Romney his home state, he is useless as a POTUS candidate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (Q0B9b)

494
Do you think Rush will tell us it's time to panic tomorrow?

Posted by: spypeach at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (pwTow)

495 Yea, media is now an enemy! Not that they have not been for a long time.

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (2Nzn8)

496 Dude, come on, this is ridiculous. There has to be some hope for Romney left.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (csi6Y)

497 Mehh

Posted by: TheGarbone- The Rubio 2016 Guy at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (cEDzL)

498 I HATE IT: ...... x BUT IT IS REALITY!!!!!

Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (J+Q+d)

499 You live with the electoral college, you die with the electoral college. It's funny, though it probably won;t hold up. Romney's up in the popular vote . Some of those dippy blue states like MD were toying with changing their laws so that the national popular vote winner gets their EV's no matter who wins their state. That would have been hilarious, they would have threw the election back to Romney. I think these states may scurry to change those laws back.

States like PA should take another look at EV apportionment. Obama would have gotten about 8 EVs from PA rather than all 20.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (yJYwC)

500 The problem isn't the GOP establishment or even libertarians.

The problem is a Marxist guy, a protege of William Ayers, made a gambit to turn his back on his lying election promises, and instead force through a huge takeover of 1/6th of the economy when he had the power to do so.

It was part of his, and Ayers, plan to transform enough of the electorate further to dependency, or hoped for dependency.

It worked.

The problem is the electorate. Not the GOP. The people -- or at least many of them.

Any solution is going to have to (1) unite right of center factions, not divide them and (2) either educate and persuade the electorate to move right or (3) bring the party left, like European "conservative" parties do.

That may suck ass and you may hate it, but that's what near-term future electoral victories are going to have to look like.

Otherwise lies defeat and repeated socialist victories, with a Supreme Court and social entitlements and debt that will make the current situation look somewhat reasonable.

So, basically, they win for a while, and a serious fight back effort is required for those that wish to undertake it. But purges ain't the answer. It's being emotional and immature. It's lashing out.

Which I get. I understand the desire.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (SKX2R)

501 Oddly fitting. Over on twitter, @calendar_ru reminds me that the 7th of November is the anniversary of the October revolution.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (1c58W)

502 ♫ A Prius for everyone .... ♪

/punches wall\


*****

No Prius for you! You get a Volt!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (piMMO)

503 Ugh

2008 sucked but this, being so damned close in the states that could've won in for Romney is just fucking brutal.

Posted by: Jeriko at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (IB4NS)

504 >>>488 Some bitch down the street is cheering.
Does anybody see what I see?

I hear coyotes in the distance and my cat just took a smelly shit. So, maybe?

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (JycCV)

505 I'm so afraid for the country I love. Gullibility is the product of ignorance. And ignorance will cost us our precious liberty. With the vast numbers of people so ignorant of history, of the workings of government, and so willing to hand control of their lives over to bureaucrats who dole out scraps as payment for power--it is looking increasingly plain that America--that magnificent experiment--the reward for courage, ingenuity, and self-reliance--has reached its sunset years. I guess all great powers end up this way--history confirms this. The cities are microcosms of this phenomena. They attract the indigent, the poor, the criminals--and eventually those who supply by their own labors, the fuel--money--to run the city --can give no more. The city decays, overrun by parasites. And so it goes, until there is nothing left but a husk--a corpse--where the maggots stay and continue to feed until there is nothing left but a memory. Look at Detroit. Look at Chicago. So no thanks to all of you who don't even know enough to rebut the lies that frighten you into voting for leaders who depend on and understand ignorance and are happy to take advantage of it.

Posted by: scotsfury at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (W08yv)

506 Whelp... I guess 2010, Chick-Fil-A, and the Wisconsin recall election didn't happen...

So, yeah...

Posted by: TLGM at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (appbn)

507 458
How the fuck did we lose Florida?

The seniors I know voted for Obama. Like him. Think he needs four more years to sort out Bush's mess. They are also on social security, so they feel like they don't pay any taxes, so who cares if taxes go up?

It will be hard not to say "I told you so," when they are denied treatment under Obamacare and left to die.

Posted by: shibumi at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (z63Tr)

508 actually the AVERAGE national polling shifted from Romney +1 to Obama +1.

It wasn't the hurricane. It was the media covering up for 4 years of failure. It's that simple.

Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (mcWHD)

509 It wasn't Romney being a bad candidate.

It wasn't Sandy.

It wasn't Christie.

It's our electorate. We are getting the government we deserve. I may have to do what my brave ancestors did when their own countries got too irreversibly shitty. Pack up, view the options this planet currently provides, and find some place more free.

Posted by: MostlyRight at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (ZG8Ti)

510 483 Seriously, Palinistas and assorted TrueCon Avengers...what the fuck could Romney have done differently?

Not enough: 'FUCK YOU OBAMA, LICK MY ASS, SUCK MY BALLS, KISS MY ASS YOU COMMIE TRAITOR! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!"?

Yeah, that doesn't win elections.
Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (JycCV)

That MIGHT be true. We dont' know for certain. But what do we know for certain -- the RINO approach doesn't work either.

Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (0LX7P)

511 Now is not the time to point fingers. Now is the time to join the 47% of Americans free-riding. I'm done being a chump. Where do I go to sign up for my free shit?

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (SzAZ7)

512 362 Hey, not for nothing, but focus your rage where it belongs; inner-city voters and morons who want free shit. Ripping Ace of the posts, or the live-blogs is a dick move.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 06, 2012 11:37 PM (Q0B9b)
Ehhh.. With all do respect, I don't think that attitude is helpful. Did you personally make trips into the inner city to canvas for Romney? I didn't. There are tons of more things I could have personally done to help out this year. But I didn't. I take responsibility for this outcome, in my small way. If we all take that attitude, we will be in a much better shape for the next fight.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (zrpqj)

513 ___________________________



IT IS REALITY. I'm sorry. But is simply is.




Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (J+Q+d)

514 Obama voters haven't lost their spirit. A large % of the Obama base are people who want to see white Republicans get fucked in the ass. They have lots of spirit.. They want revenge. They want Obama to deliver that revenge.

Obama did a good job of channeling racial and ethnic hatred.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (ZPrif)

515 I hate to put it this way, but one effect of a 2nd 0bama term will be that I spend less time on AoSHQ. Them's the breaks. :-/

Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (jKE+Z)

516 Mitt is winning the popular vote so stop rationalizing this by saying we're a nation of babies who suck the gov teat. If that were so, Mitt would be losing the popular vote.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (KL49F)

517 Barring that, when Obama completely trashes the rest of the country over the next four years, will anybody wake up for 2016?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (csi6Y)

518 NO more RINO's.. mmk?

Posted by: willy at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (kUCQ4)

519 Mitt better also challenge Florida and any other state where the military have been disenfranchised.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (rVkqa)

520 I'm not hopeful as I go to bed, but... let's hope there's no concession until the last vote is counted.

Your system is broken. The way you elect your president is badly flawed. And it needs to be fixed next time you get the big chair and both Houses. Or this will keep happening.

Good luck, guys - we're going to need it.

The only bright side is this: OBAMA NOW OWNS ALL HIS OWN FAIL. THERE IS NOBODY LEFT TO BLAME.

Posted by: perturbed at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (dXePx)

521 482 Then starting right out of the gate next year we have:...

Don't forget interest rates. The fed has been faking its way for too long, and the dam is going to bust soon. We're going to find out how screwed we really are - and what we're looking at for real numbers.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (Qxdfp)

522 As a country club naysayer I choose Rubio and Paul.men who will fight. The real question we must ask ourselves is would Reagan even win in this invironment?

Posted by: BrianInWisconsin at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (MsOp2)

523 Romney camp is telling cnbc that they aren't conceding ohio

Posted by: phil at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (QzdcC)

524 493 No, the Senate is not going to impeach D'ohbama - not a constitutional scholar, I see.
Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:45 PM (QK54y)

Not going to happen! Boehner! Really this guy is a loser!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (2Nzn8)

525 "Going Galt" = being the kid who takes his toys and goes home when he doesn't get his way.

Have our principles and values changed because we lost?

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (fXInK)

526 How can this be over when our military overseas didn't even receive their ballots?

Don't concede Mitt. Fight.

Posted by: parteagirl at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (OXu/N)

527 Time to lock down all spending on everything but vegetable seeds and mason jars.

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (JtyGg)

528
Obama stole you asshole. Dems were voting 1600 times in OH, Somalis
being bussed in, Chicagoans bussed into IA, electronic machines only
switching Romney votes to O, NBPP intimidating voters in Philly. O STOLE
this and I pray Mitt is the ONE who will fight.

Nobody stole anything. Did he steal Wisconsin after losing the recall election?
This country made a choice.
A terrifically stupid choice, but a choice that you agreed to honor when you voted.

People need to start dealing with this situation.

Posted by: RayJ at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (pI/IV)

529 Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:41 PM (LCRYB)

My point is that the primaries were framed from day one as Romney is the electable guy, no one else has a chance. Then every other candidate was belittled and ruined by the conservative media and romneys negative ads (and I admit, I'd hoped someone better had stepped forward, but we had to work with what we had) ...

We picked one of the worst of the group to represent us. Another country club moderate republican.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (azmhu)

530 On the bright side, I just saved 15% on my car insurance by calling Geico



You know GEICO stands for Government Employees Insurance Company, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (Gk3SS)

531 In VA Pres. Obama has passed Romney.

Posted by: jjdcoach at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (EC1Pt)

532 We gotta win those independents! We gotta leave some planks behind and widen our tent and send the embarrassing so-cons into the wilderness! We gotta toss that 2010 TEA Party nonsense out and get serious!

Edgy Mencken Quote! Hot Air 4 Life yo!
(Drops the mic and walks)

Posted by: Cackfinger at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (CCHli)

533 Rove is whining on and on and on. Granted he won the last campaign he ran, but I'm so frickin' tired of Joe Trippi and whisky cigarette voice Susan Estrich and every other loser being asked to opine. If Rove had some great insights, why is it so close? In that sense, Rove is a loser now too. And if we don't find a way to stopnominating mental defectives (Akin, Mourdock) and retreads losers (Allen) we don't need to worry about the Senate any time soon. That's my f'ing cent and a half...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (GJUgF)

534 395 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:39 PM (KL49F)_______ Thanks. I knew you saw it on Twitter.

Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (opS9C)

535 I wonder FOX called it so quick.......

Something really Fucking Stinks here!

Posted by: Jimi at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (uvNSk)

536 Samwise Gamgee the 3rd:
>> Any solution is going to have to (1) unite right of center factions, not divide them and (2) either educate and persuade the electorate to move right or (3) bring the party left, like European "conservative" parties do.

My take:
We mostly got #1.
We didn't have enough time for #2.
If this election were held next year, we'd win.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (KDek4)

537 >>>t was the media covering up for 4 years of failure. It's that simple.

well of course it was ALSO that, but as of ten days ago, we had defanged that advantage.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (LCRYB)

538 We obviously need someone who can get bipartisan stuff done in 2016.

Posted by: Christie 2016 at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (6JMZR)

539 My mom died last year.This is NOTHING.This changes nothing.This is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.Life is short.Enjoy it as well as you can.Get yourself some free gubmint shit.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (9XBK2)

540 I'd better not receive One.Single.Smug.E-Mail from an Obamabot family member or "friend."

Fuck them all. Hope they suffer far worse than the rest of us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (UOM48)

541
Seriously, Palinistas and assorted TrueCon Avengers...what the fuck could Romney have done differently?



Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:44 PM (JycCV)

be someone else? Maybe then not lose more than McCain did in 08

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (tw6Ar)

542 I have friends who voted for Obama, and while I disagree with them, and often think they're idiots, they at least have some concept of how government works and how having a job works and all that.

It's the ridiculous amount of people who have no freaking idea who Romney's running mate is, or what the House of Representatives is, and who couldn't write more than three sentences about what either party claims to want to do, that drives me absolutely nuts. And I'm pretty sure Obama got the vast majority of those votes.

Posted by: Whoever this is, it's definitely not Michael at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (JVCVF)

543 Posted by: MostlyRight at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (ZG8Ti)

If it's "the electorate" explain to me why Mitt's winning thepopular vote, please?

O stole it. Plain and simple.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (KL49F)

544 "Going Galt" = being the kid who takes his toys and goes home when he doesn't get his way.

Have our principles and values changed because we lost?

--------

One of my primary principles is survival. I need to survive. That's not happening in this country anymore. Time to move on.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (arczc)

545 I think I have come to accept that democracy in any form, including representative democracy, is doomed to fail for the same reason communism is doomed to fail: people are selfish. Our constitution will get us further than most, but it is imperfect and will ultimately fail to stop the demise of our nation.

Posted by: not the mama at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (kzCIn)

546 "How the fuck did we lose Florida?
I feel sick."


Romney let Obama saturate it with negative ads for a long time unanswered. That's what.

I was told repeatedly in the comments section here that Romney was focusing on the ground game and "that's how elections were won in the 21st century."

Obviously negative campaigning isn't the dead end people here have been saying.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (uD2fR)

547 Popular vote very close now - if I understand how RCP calculates it, D'ohbama should take over as California votes are counted.

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (QK54y)

548 I hate to put it this way, but one effect of a 2nd 0bama term will be that I spend less time on AoSHQ. Them's the breaks. :-/
Posted by: logprof at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (jKE+Z)

well, we all probably spent too much time here jerking off, when we should have been working for Romney or whomever

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (Z9EHQ)

549 Half of the Obama voters voted on nothing more than hatred of the rich white guy.

That's it. Nothing more complicated than that. Hate. Hate works. Hate motivates.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (ZPrif)

550 How did we do with the governorships...cant be ALL bad...right?.....RIGHT?

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (FIDMq)

551 hey, remember when FLOTUSCUNT gave her "never proud of my country" bit? Yeah, I've never been ashamed of my country until it reelected this miserable fucking failure who's done nothing but bury us all. Stagflation forever, baby!

Posted by: radar at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (UbITQ)

552
[Romney] did the best that could be done.
Posted by: Avi





Shall dispute that on the morn after the funeral.

But there's multiple problems with Republican's political skillz beyond any specific candidate, and little incentive to correct the flaws.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (kdS6q)

553 Couple of things: I am sick and tired of my vote not counting. Yes I live on the West Coast. So election after election, they call it before the votes out here are even counted. Why do I bother?

2) It's obvious now that you control the country by education. Remember that the next time they want more money for "the children". Indoctrinate them young and they will do as they are told.

3) The Great Depression lasted as long as it did because Roosevelt tried all sorts of experimental stuff that spooked businesses. People kept re-electing him because he was a really good talker. You are seeing a repeat of it. Expect the economy over the next four years to seriously tank. The storm is coming so get prepared for it while you still have a job.

I don't know where the Republican party goes from here, but I think it's seriously time to get involved with the Tea Party, at least until it's declared a terrorist organization and is outlawed.

Posted by: Teri Pittman at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (uPhCY)

554 Who are the fuckers who wanted 4 more years of this shit?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (X/+QT)

555 Nervous for steevy. How the hell is he gonna hold up having to keep the SCOAMF comments in all the posts for another 4 years.

God speed, steevy.

And fuck you "blue" America.

Posted by: worried Moron at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (cKfPM)

556 If, and this is looking increasingly unlikely, Romney somehow pulled it out in VA, OH, and FL . . .

He still loses, right?

Posted by: The Q at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (w4fEE)

557 >>>My point is that the primaries were framed from day one as Romney is the
electable guy, no one else has a chance. Then every other candidate was
belittled and ruined by the conservative media and romneys negative ads
(and I admit, I'd hoped someone better had stepped forward, but we had
to work with what we had) ...


Dude, whatever. If you can't see that almost all of the candidates were either very weak or simply self-disqualifying, I don't know what to tell you.



Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (LCRYB)

558 Thanks Akin and Mourdock, you albatrosses around Romney's neck. You say stupid, ugly, unnecessary shit to flatter the voters already in your pocket, and stir up the bitches. You couldn't learn from Angle and Christine O'Donnell?

You've just guaranteed 20 years of a Supreme Court that will gold-plate, enshrine, fortify, expand and weld shut every abomination you purport to oppose.

Posted by: little miss spellcheck at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (a5ljo)

559 Romney was a kick ass candidate.
I am sick.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (DGIjM)

560 435 It could be that we're just too damn stupid, as a society, to govern ourselves.
-

The "we" you refer to no longer dominates. Since 1965, America has been importing a new electorate by non-White mass immigration, legal and illegal.

Obviously that new electorate is here in force. Obama represents its preferred style of government.

Since 1965, the Republican Party has accepted the reduction of Whites as a share of the population. If it continues to accept that, things will only get worse.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (4qa9e)

561
"Going Galt" = being the kid who takes his toys and goes home when he doesn't get his way.>>

Wrong analogy it's the kid that refuses to give his lunch money to the bully.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (cLAkX)

562 You want someone else to blame -- Bush.

Not for his four years, but for his stuttering and goofy inability to properly articulate himself and defend himself. He allowed an Obama to happen and he allowed the notion to persist that our current nebulous financial mess -- that most low information voters don't even understand -- was somehow a big crap that he dropped in the white house when it had little to do with him.

Posted by: sunnyblack at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (0LX7P)

563 It's over folks. You can bitch about Romney, but tell me what Republican would have won? The American people just voted for more free shit, the consequences be damned. Demographics have over-run Liberty. There are officially more people who cherish government issued "security than there are those who cherish liberty. It wasn't a bad candidate, it's bad citizens. America is over. We are all Europeans now.

Posted by: holygoat at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (IGIFh)

564 548 "How the fuck did we lose Florida?
I feel sick."

Romney let Obama saturate it with negative ads for a long time unanswered. That's what.

I was told repeatedly in the comments section here that Romney was focusing on the ground game and "that's how elections were won in the 21st century."

Obviously negative campaigning isn't the dead end people here have been saying.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (uD2fR)

___________________

They always overhype this.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (r2PLg)

565 520 NO more RINO's.. mmk?

Are you kidding?
Just like the country doubled down on dumb, the GOP is going to figure they didn't move far enough to the left.

They'll never understand that real conservatism can sell itself if articulated. Nope, we got a nice guy. I like him but we didn't need a nice guy. We needed an asshole to fight an asshole.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (Qxdfp)

566
FUCK THIS SHIT!!!
I DO MEAN......FUCK THIS SHIT!!!
Barry for another four...just like the HMS Bounty going down to Davy Jone's last week...least the skipper was old school......nuf said.....

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (tKpj6)

567 Who wants to order up some delicious regional rump party?

Posted by: Cackfinger at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (CCHli)

568 Honestly I did not see Rubio running about down here shilling for Mitt. The last time I saw him was the convention.

I want to see a Rubio Biden debate. That would be fun.

Posted by: TheGarbone- The Rubio 2016 Guy at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (cEDzL)

569 Well we are truly fucked now. The gregs, gimmes and lackadaisical roll with the flow asses have won. Winners I`ve got news for you, I`m out. I will not work one day to support you all and your agenda. When we crash, and we will, if I`m kickin` I`ll help rebuild. Until that point I`m in it for me and I can do that. Vaya con Dios mutherfuckers `cause I aint.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (nwHKt)

570 But remember, people, violence isn't the answer. Everyone keep calm and bend over, and take what you're given and like it.

Posted by: apotheosis at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (xWk3U)

571 @550 TMI, but this is not the sort of place that usually triggers that behavior

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (QK54y)

572 It's wasn't Sandy: 1) The MFM absolutely did it's best to fluff this fucker throughout the campaign. 2) The country really does like free shit, no responsibility, and living off the 1%'s tax burden.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM

Yep.

Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (yBF/9)

573 >>>512 That MIGHT be true. We dont' know for certain. But what do we know for certain -- the RINO approach doesn't work either.

I'm sorry, Ronald Reagan wasn't around for this election. We had to run the guy that wasn't a fruitcake (Bachmann, Paul, Santorum), didn't have a shitload of personal problems (Gingrich) and actually knew what he was talking about (Cain).

Romney was the best of the entire field. He was the guy that ran and won the primary. And again, what the hell could he have done differently? I keep hearing Benghazi, and that's valid, but I don't think it would've made the difference.

We are dealing with a fundamental shift in American Values; free shit and more free shit.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (JycCV)

574 >>> 531 We picked one of the worst of the group to represent us. Another country club moderate republican.

Go back to fucking your mother.

Posted by: Punahou Death Stare at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (sTS/8)

575 I need booze

Posted by: Zakn at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (LbwgI)

576 AP just called it for TFG.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (ccXZP)

577 Sobbing for my country and children.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (gjIQF)

578 Catholics deserve what they get as well. For decades they voted en masse for liberals and when the liberals fuck them now they want the rest of us to help them out. Fuck them too. I hope they force birth control on the nuns just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: jaimo at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (zujTK)

579 Ohio is not decided yet.

Posted by: eman at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (beMhL)

580 "Did you personally make trips into the inner city to canvas for Romney?". LOL.

Posted by: Kathleen at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (xXyme)

581 Look, I know we all can't believe what our fellow Americans have done. It's up to us to keep our chins up and make things the way we want them to be. We've got to keep this motherfucker's feet to the fire. Giving up just isn't who we are. The libs want us to quit so stick it to those fuckers.

Posted by: scantily clad scandis at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (4eRmz)

582
I spend less time on AoSHQ. Them's the breaks. :-/
Posted by: logprof




Grad school, or finish that CPA and head over to the IRS for me.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (kdS6q)

583 Well so much for using yard signs as an indicator for votes. Seems the Dems pulled one over on us. They just never put their signs out.

Posted by: sig at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (zsu/A)

584 Bush is partly to blame. That dumb fuck is the reason Obama could continue to blame his failures on a guy who was President 4 years prior. He sucked. He damaged us in a major way.

That said, if the electorate wasn't stupid as fuck it wouldn't matter.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (arczc)

585 Couple of things: I am sick and tired of my vote not counting. Yes I
live on the West Coast. So election after election, they call it before
the votes out here are even counted. Why do I bother?

___________________________________

Dude - they called Pennsylvania while I was still in the precinct counting votes. In Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (Nfpnr)

586 ace at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (LCRYB)

How do we know? The polls were obviously fucked up. Romney was +1 with a MOE. He could have been behind or ahead. It was always a tossup. If you take away Rasmussen polls - which were obviously fucked at the state level - Romney's situation was always worse than it appeared.

I've had a dark suspicion that Romney would lose every "close" state; and that happened.

Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (mcWHD)

587 521 Mitt better also challenge Florida and any other state where the military have been disenfranchised.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 06, 2012 11:46 PM (rVkqa)

ITA. I'm sick of Mr. Nice Guy. CONTEST these fraudulant votes, Mitt! You have the popular voters behind you to support you!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (KL49F)

588 569

FUCK THIS SHIT!!!
I DO MEAN......FUCK THIS SHIT!!!
Barry for
another four...just like the HMS Bounty going down to Davy Jone's last
week...least the skipper was old school......nuf said.....

Yeah but he can't blame the previous administration!

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (9+ccr)

589 Romney ran the best campaign he could. This result lies upon the heads of the electorate. That's worse news than just having a shitty candidate like McCain, as it is infinitely more intractable.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (OjQYm)

590 I don't need any Romney should have done this or that bullshit. He ran a solid campaign and while I was not a fan at all in the primary, I'll give him credit for giving people a relatively bold choice. Moreso that I would have ever expected from him. I was more excited about him than I could have imagined being.

That the country didn't choose what I would have liked isn't a reflection on Romney, and the Laura Ingraham's (who I generally like) of the world ought not go down the path they're going with this.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (UvR6d)

591 Is it official? We're 50%+ a nation of takers/sheep/slaves? No going back? We just have to crash and rebuild?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (X/+QT)

592 104 Y'all abandoned me months ago. Think I'll save your ass now? Hell no, bitches.
Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (mcWHD)

Thanks for the wee lol.

Posted by: madamex at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (+kvQd)

593 If you all want to HULK SMASH something, look no further than the MFM.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (JycCV)

594 He chose the most so-con running mate, too.

Fuck a duck.
Does anyone know if Ryan at least got reelected to the house?

Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (hO9ad)

595 558 Ha!I'm not.SCoaMF is over.Oh,he still IS one,I just wont post it anymore.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (9XBK2)

596
OH!
FUCK OBAMA.

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (tKpj6)

597 Lets be totally honest.

Todd Aikin

That was the gift that kept on giving.

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (ovpNn)

598 FL. WTF!!!!

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (9+ccr)

599 WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING REDSKINS

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (6JMZR)

600 Have our principles and values changed because we lost?

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 11:47 PM (fXInK)


"We" didn't lose. America lost. Do you understand the difference? Our nation, that we were born into and supported, is no more. If you like living in the American Socialist Superstate, run by a Third World Retard, then good for you. I'm probably taking off for somewhere else. I don't want to live in the American Socialist Superstate and I will not support anything about the American Socialist Superstate. I never signed up for this sort of tyrannical and insane government.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (X3lox)

601 IMO, Romney was the best Republican candidate in my lifetime (excepting Reagan).

If the election is lost, IMO it's not on him.

Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (tUcg9)

602 Btw, suck it evangelicals for not voting. You will be drowned in immigrants from somalia and pakistan.

Posted by: joeindc44 has a D+10 sample for you at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (Z3ckx)

603 everyone saying it is over needs to shut the fuck up, sack up and get it together. Nothing is over until you give up.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (Z9EHQ)

604 Fuck it.

My day job helps youth learn the old values. Maybe enough will learn well enough to hold something together when the inevitable comes.

I've long suspected it was just time to let it burn and start over. Thinking there's no choice, now. Preserve what you can, as the nucleus for the next try...in a generation, or a century, or a millenium.

I hoped for a better paying job someday, but there's honestly no point now.

I'll still hang here to commiserate, maybe even exchange ideas on how to deal with what's coming, but politics is, for the Duration, a loser's game.

Burn down the media. They shaped this, even if the 'people' were who pulled the trigger. Make them pay as dear a price as possible for this.

Fuck it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (x8wJs)

605 They've taken all the toys and given us a bill for 20 more years of toys.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (bxiXv)

606 556 I think the word "comfortably" doesn't mean what you think it means.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (53riN)

607 @ 433 Lightworker

It's your bigoted attitude why the GOP lost. You want to trash countries Hispanics come from, what about Europe? Thought so.

The GOP needs to stop the social issue garbage.

Posted by: Mega at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (idyso)

608 13
Chris Christie might as well switch parties now. He's never going to
win the Republican primary for dog catcher now - the fat f*ck.

Posted by: MM at November 06, 2012 11:20 PM

Christie can't switch to the Dems because the unions are his mortal enemy.

Once the MSM starts reporting on continued suffering in NJ, they'll be pointing the finger of blame, and you know it won't be pointed at their boyfriend

Christie is going to be taking it in the nuts, and he's going to be a very lonely man

Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (wwsoB)

609 time to change the nick

Posted by: jeremiah God Damn Barack Obama the Mother Fucking SCoaMF wright at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (ovpNn)

610 You guys ready for those SCOTUS appointments?

The republic will never be the same. Never.

Posted by: ELKomandante at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (9Fjmj)

611 From Drudge, Jesse Jackson, Jr. has won re-election.....from the Mayo Clinic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (UOM48)

612 181

D+6 turnout? Really??

What the hell happened? GOP turnout must have been well up, so where the hell did Obama find all his new voters from??

Posted by: AussieMarcus at November 06, 2012 11:28 PM (RstsB)
I asked this on another thread. Obama was up more in 2008, turnouts in OH in the cities was down and in the burbs up.
Don't get it...

Posted by: Linlithgow at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (Gim9y)

613 Elizabeth Warren in the Senate. Alan Grayson back in the House. Wow.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (Cl95C)

614 it is time





Posted by: _Dave_ at November 06, 2012 11:42 PM


True, that.

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (JMmQ9)

615 Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:48 PM (uD2fR)


Romney didn't do a fucking thing! The American people did this shit. They fell for this lying bullshit. You blame them, do not blame a good man for this loss.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (ZOf1l)

616 Don't despair!
According to aoshqdd.com, Romney has a 61-pt EV lead!

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (QK54y)

617 602 lael

It's not Romney's fault. It's the GOP has a damaged brand.

Posted by: Mega at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (idyso)

618 I gave it my best shot. Back in 2008 I volunteered to be a precinct
chair. Move on to county chair. Did the whole training thing. Made a
real Republican presence in my very Blue county. 2010 was the first
Republican primary since the War between the States. 2012 first filing
for office by a Rep candidate. I held Meet and Greets in my home to rid
the Nation of a slime Dem in 2010. Did it.
Gave cash to Mitt and the RNC for the first time in my 64 years.
I was sure we could get our country back. I was wrong and all the work was wasted.
I want my free money. I want my phone. I want my Volt. I want. I want. I want.
Me. Me. Me.
America
gave her consent to be gang raped. You get what you vote for. Enjoy the
ride to serfdom. Measure your women for burkas. Prepare to submit.

Posted by: Pecos at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (2Gb0y)

619 You know GEICO stands for Government Employees Insurance Company, right?

fuck it, I'm ENTITLED to a handout just like everyone else, apparently

Posted by: Killface at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (dr0xf)

620 Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (JycCV)

I would award 1000 points if I could. Funny, true post.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (csi6Y)

621
It was worse in the '30's under Roosevelt. Really. And he ran for four terms, being a really sick man in his fourth election.

But yeah, the electoral shift has turned, and I do not think that it will be possible for a Republican to win a national election again for some years. Even if the economy goes over the cliff (which it probably will), the blame will fall on BUSH! and the Republican "obstructionist" congress.

Romney was a centrist and the most electable candidate possible under the present conditions. I think that the Republican party will probably split soon, into the "Tea Party" types and the Big Government RINO's. Which guarantees a very corrupt and rotten and stupid Democratic party a ruling position for some years to come.

Come, let us shoot ourselves in the foot together.

And Mitt is up by 3,000 votes in Ohio now.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (Md8Uo)

622 575
It's wasn't Sandy: 1) The MFM absolutely did it's best to fluff this
fucker throughout the campaign. 2) The country really does like free
shit, no responsibility, and living off the 1%'s tax burden.



Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:25 PM



Yep.

Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (yBF/9)

Remember hearing about the business owners talking about shutting down if TFG won....unemployment rate is goin up up up, Im afraid. Wait, those jobs will be gone so it will stay the same righht?

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (FIDMq)

623 Strangely, I'm not upset. I was hopeful that things could change for what I think would be the better but the rest of the country thought differently.

It is what it is.

Make more informed decisions in the future. Truly, truly do not trust the processes in this country anymore. The rule of law has been co-opted, merit has no place anymore, keep yourself private and do not speak to those you are not sure of.

There will be informers, PC will morph into a regulatory speech code with fines and punishment. Those who exhibit "reactionary" tendencies will be sent to rehabilitation facilities. Those who possess weapons will have them confiscated and be fined for threatening the State.

Discussions such as occur on this blog will be monitored and those expressing certain opinions or comments will be investigated or put on a watch list. There is no free speech anymore along with the press and religion.

Act as if you are in enemy country because we just had demonstrated that over 50% of the country believe we are enemies.

Act according to your worst fears and you won't be far off.

Posted by: Jcw46 at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (SP4jC)

624 Jindal and Rubio. Our future. Trust no others.

Posted by: Hoarymarmot at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (/LSG0)

625 "How the fuck did we lose Florida?

I feel sick."

The Obama CBS commercial, I mean the Colin Powell endorsement, was played here non-stop. It was a pretty powerful spot. I'm sure it played non-stop in other states too.

CBS gave Obama a 30 second commercial with that endorsement. NBC's Andrea Mitchell cut another perfect Obama commercial as well. Remember that one, too?

Posted by: lorien1973 at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (mcWHD)

626 -- Millions of full-time workers being dropped to part-time, or part-timers having their hours cut back, again due to Obamacare mandates

This will be big. If you have kids entering the workforce they can kiss full time jobs goodbye.

Posted by: George Orwell what know the nation is dead at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (AZGON)

627 Strategize, people, strategize. I intend to keep working hard, as I have all my life. But now I'll do it with an eye toward "gimme mine."

Conservatives have two problems: (1) We flee formerly red states that swing blue at the drop of a hat, thereby conceding those states. Look at what happened. We need to stay where we are and fight on the battlefield. It does no good to win Idaho by 70% vs 60%. We MUST fight on the battlefield.

(2) They want Greece? Give it to 'em. We know finances and are better equipped to take advantage of the financial welfare state than them. "Gimme mine!" I intend to take mine. I paid in for my whole life. Now you've told me, "They're taking theirs, so you're a fool if you dont take yours." OK, fine, I think I'll do that. I'm an accountant who knows how to take advantage of the rules. I never did it, but now I think I will. You do it, too.

Posted by: csmats at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (pOSGo)

628 614
Elizabeth Warren in the Senate. Alan Grayson back in the House. Wow.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM
And obama re-elected...the perfect storm... reap as you shall sow...(Cl95C)

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (9+ccr)

629 Romney up in Ohio?

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (4cRnj)

630 According to FOX, Mitt won the popular in Ohio..fuck the electoral voters.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (53riN)

631 Hate. Hate works. Hate motivates.

That's what upsets me the most. Even after a civil war, Lincoln urged northerners to be gracious. Obama and his voters have nothing but contempt for us.

Posted by: LIGuy at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (HYD/Y)

632 Y'all abandoned me months ago. Think I'll save your ass now? Hell no, bitches.


Posted by: SMOD at November 06, 2012 11:24 PM (mcWHD)

But I voted for you in everything on the ballot

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (tw6Ar)

633 Romney didn't do a fucking thing! The American people did this shit. They fell for this lying bullshit. You blame them, do not blame a good man for this loss.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (ZOf1l)

YES. Romney turned out to exceed all my expectations. He was the man for the hour, if there ever was one.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (csi6Y)

634 no, I think the Ohio call is probably right.
the counties that have yet to report are Dem-heavy counties. looks like Romney will lose by a squeaker.

what galls me the most though is that the Libertarian fucktards are the ones who are going to cost us teh margin of victory.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (d/5qf)

635 Give me my damn obamaphone and fuck you all.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (X/+QT)

636 As I've been saying for a long, long, LONG time (years) (hell, a decade)

it's all well and good to say you need a True Conservative candidate.

But then you have to do something *else*.

You have to present a good such candidate.

Good. Candidate.

Without that little detail, it's not going to happen. If you can't come up with a True Conservative candidate with a track record of success, persuasiveness, and good communications skills, including not shooting themselves in the foot, well what do you expect the rest of the party to do?

They're going to look for someone who is a plausible candidate.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (SKX2R)

637 A lot of you fuckers who are down on Romney are the same fuckers who were talking how awesome he was after he owned Obama in the first debate. Romney ran a good campaign.
Sad part is Romney was right 47% or more was baked in. Obama got his turnout, and no one, no one saw that shit happening.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (Vdd8W)

638 Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 11:49 PM (LCRYB)

Fine, let's say I buy your premise. So now what? We just accept that the only presidential candidate we could nominate this time was another centrist who will lose? That's what we did in 2008, remember? Is this the plan going forward? I mean... SOMETHING has to give.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (azmhu)

639 I am still in shock. I just can't believe that the country voted for 4 more years of this. I just can't believe it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (jucos)

640 I'm disinclined to blame a hurricane and leaning towards the GOP nominating a terrible candidate. If you can't beat Barack Obama--a failure on every single level--maybe you shouldn't have been the nominee. Just saying.

Posted by: mgd at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (O5Wu6)

641 The real silver lining here: four more years of Joe Biden to make fun of.

Posted by: sandy burger at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (KDek4)

642 This can't be! Something's wrong! They had to of cheated bad, and this could swing back to Romney in a big way.

Posted by: Jimi at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (uvNSk)

643 As of right now, there's only a two thousand vote difference in Ohio...in Romney's favor.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (UU6uJ)

644 Americans simply don't believe that the upcoming financial crisis is real. It's still too abstract, too theoretical. And when it hits, it will only lead to an expansion of government, not to a contraction. A kind of northern hemisphere Argentina.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (0Db2g)

645 631 According to FOX, Mitt won the popular in Ohio..fuck the electoral voters.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (53riN)

What the hell??

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (csi6Y)

646 I cannot believe the Senate???
Blue Americans are truly total idiots!!!
Heh, can't wait until the folks in the Northeast freeze their asses off when Obama's EPA shuts down all the coal fire plants.
Out of work coal miners are going to be pissed.....
Maybe Obama will re-train them to build windmills and solar panels....
2013 will be fucked.......
as will 2014, 2015 and 2016.....
Obama will dig the hole so deep....

Bye Bye American pie -
Drove my Chevy to the Treasury -
but the Treasury was dry -
And them good old boys were taxing me dry -
And I was singing.......SCOAMF........

Posted by: izoneguy at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (oKH8p)

647 What happens when California, Illinois and New York finally collapse? There is nothing to save them.

What happens when our enemies know that the media will suppress any bad news that could hurt Obama?
Would a majority believe the truth?

What happens if we can't continue to borrow?
Who is to say that will even be possible 6 months for now?

What happens if we go deeper into recession?
At what level of pain does society start to crack?

What happens to Obama's coalition if you can't show them the money?

Has Obama even thought about this as a possibility? Have the Dems ever sat down and said to themselves, what if the shit hits the fan? As far as I can tell they haven't, well not in thirty plus years.

They were able to suppress one crisis because it was small and the bravery of a few men who disobeyed orders.

The second crisis was under reported: whats the over under on those flooded neighborhoods recovering?

I'm afraid the snowball has just started growing.

Are they happy they won? They've always seemed to me a fairweather people. Happy to accept the praise and adulation of the people in good times. What happens when things really start to turn?

Posted by: NothingIsEverOver at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (MwqCg)

648 Ohio is irrelevant unless something resembling magic happens in FL

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (uD2fR)

649 what am I going to do with all this pudding?

Posted by: estelle costanza at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (MJERn)

650 Does anyone know if Ryan at least got reelected to the house?


Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (hO9ad)

yeah, he's going to hold his seat

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (tw6Ar)

651 614 They get what they deserve but we get to suffer with those retards.Grayson is a ugly,nasty fucking cave man.Warren is a creepy lying bitch.And they WON.How stupid are those who voted for them?

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (9XBK2)

652 Ron Paul! Garry Johnson! Stick your tiny ewok parts in a tree shredder.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (X/+QT)

653
Half of the Obama voters voted on nothing more than hatred of the rich white guy.

====\Even by rich white people. It's like sports-- their team sucks but hell yeah I'll stand in line to vote for him, because I hate your team.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (9ghZ6)

654 Remember Juan Amnesty McVain (the Other Soros Candidate)?
Put up a liberal RINO to beat a committed socialist and the result is getting more predictable each cycle, the real article wins.
I had no doubts when I predicted this loss. When a party comes into existence on moral principles and then gives up those moral principles for pragmatism to get bare power(and not to do moral right)IT WILL DIE.

Dead Elephants meet Whigs.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (C34KJ)

655
Class warfare is here to stay. Demographic shift is here to stay. Time to learn how to be conservative in your personal life and let the rest of the world see you slumming it. They have "occupy wall street," make your game "abandon wall / main / all streets." Off the grid. Outta here...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (GJUgF)

656 If Sandy gave him the election take heart that tens of thousands lost everything and are right now cold dark hungry with another storm on the way. Knowing that I'll sleep like a baby.

Posted by: Trump at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (U2+Br)

657 But yeah, the electoral shift has turned, and I do not think that it will be possible for a Republican to win a national election again for some years.

We may not see a Repub in the White House ever again.

Posted by: George Orwell what know the nation is dead at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (AZGON)

658
Bush is partly to blame. That dumb fuck is the reason Obama could
continue to blame his failures on a guy who was President 4 years prior.
He sucked. He damaged us in a major way.


-------------------------------------------------

This. He phoned it in for the last four years and decided not to engage and fight back against the Democrats as they savaged him relentlessly. He killed the brand.

I suppose the upside is that I see the seed of 2004 Bush in 2012 Obama.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (Nfpnr)

659 With this, we do seem to be past the tipping point of moving towards European decline. After the last 4 years, if this is what the majority wants, I don't think we could have done anything differently

Posted by: brak at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (pAmVl)

660 "575 >>> 531 We picked one of the worst of the group to represent us. Another country club moderate republican.

Go back to fucking your mother.
Posted by: Punahou Death Stare at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM "

Hey, win an election and maybe people will listen to you again. 'Till then, your words are just shit.

Posted by: Cackfinger at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (CCHli)

661 The election was stolen.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (1hNQS)

662 612 From Drudge, Jesse Jackson, Jr. has won re-election.....from the Mayo Clinic.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2012 11:52 PM (UOM4

____________

Oh gawd--Naked Ninja Dude of the Turkish Baths.

That's what Romney did wrong--he didn't get naked.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (r2PLg)

663 >>>You guys ready for those SCOTUS appointments?

Avenge me!

Filibuster!!!

Posted by: Miguel Estrada at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (cKfPM)

664 If Romney couldn't win, which of the other Pubs would have done it? Santorum? Bachmann? Cain? Maybe Perry, if he had recovered from his real gaffes. Gingrich would have fought much dirtier, which is apparently the way to go now. I don't know.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (yJYwC)

665 638
A lot of you fuckers who are down on Romney are the same fuckers who
were talking how awesome he was after he owned Obama in the first
debate. Romney ran a good campaign.

Sad part is Romney was right 47% or more was baked in. Obama got his turnout, and no one, no one saw that shit happening.

Romney had a great campaign... it's hard to oust an incumbent... That being said obama is now responsible for what ever happens... pay backs a bitch isn't it???

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (9+ccr)

666 In unrelated news, I can still treat my body like an amusement park. So there's that.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (8AF9+)

667 Ace: Romney 348- Obama 190

Me: Romney 277-Obama 261

CAC: Romney 277- Obama 261

RDBrewer: Romney 338- Obama 200

Gabe: Romney 267- Obama 271

Russ: Romney 466- Obama 72

Dave In Texas: "Chaos" (Ohio is the new Florida) also Romney 286- Obama 252

Andy: Romney 316- Obama 222

John E.: Romney 315- Obama 223

You fuckers.

Posted by: Johnny at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (v9Yvj)

668 Check CNN. Romney is up now in Ohio 2295 2275 with 73% reporting.

Too bad he is lost in FL CO VA

Posted by: Stinky Feet at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (cSxQs)

669 Posted by: chemjeff at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (d/5qf)

Dude, it's not the libertarians. This election is not that close.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (azmhu)

670 Might I suggest a continued investment of ammo and can goods.

Posted by: Willybilly at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (6h0+l)

671
Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (azmhu)

Tory or bust

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (tw6Ar)

672
Fuck Karl Rove.

Wouldn't it be nice if Republicans attacked the media and entertainment industry with the same vengeance that the Democrats use when they attack oil, coal and pretty much any other productive industry? Excise taxes on movie ticket sales, repealing tax breaks for entertainment companies and artfully crafted taxes on media parent corporations would be a nice start. It can all be done under thepretext of paying down our national debt.


But that will never happen. Too many Republican politicians and conservative opinion makers generally tend to be stupid and unimaginative. They would rather endlesslybitch about media and entertainment industry bias than actually do anything about it.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (ZETiK)

673 631 According to FOX, Mitt won the popular in Ohio..fuck the electoral voters.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (53riN)

What the hell??
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (csi6Y)

how is that possible?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (Z9EHQ)

674 Let us pray that Mitt carries the popular vote at least. We will then have a talking point, a rational one, as opposed to an emotional point and a hollow go-nowhere victory. I shall now don my sack cloth and ash and wander the streets moaning "woe, woe, woe".

Posted by: and irresolute at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (DBH1h)

675 Ohio is still undecided.

Posted by: eman at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (beMhL)

676 Ya know, when you frame it as the GOP has lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes, that really hits me like a slap upside the face.

Posted by: Jaydee at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (E5DLT)

677 651
Does anyone know if Ryan at least got reelected to the house?




Posted by: Methos at November 06, 2012 11:51 PM (hO9ad)

yeah, he's going to hold his seat


Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (tw6Ar)

Is there somebody with a ball sack that can lead the House?

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (FIDMq)

678 Big partyin Chicago tonight, on our dime...puke

Posted by: mot57 at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (7EOsc)

679 >>> "This can't be! Something's wrong! They had to of cheated bad, and this could swing back to Romney in a big way."

Jimi, please give me a hit of that crack you are smoking because it must be some really great stuff.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (SKX2R)

680 In 4 more years, it will still be Bush's fault. So sayeth the media. And whoever we nominate will be the next Bush. So, our best hope is that things get so bad, the next Bush looks pretty good.

Posted by: Boone at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (tIyK2)

681 I blame Canada.

Posted by: Fast becoming Furious at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (Xa1VJ)

682 Demographics is destiny and we're destined to become another third world shithole. Welcome to the brave new world folks.

Posted by: Different Greg at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (qAMin)

683 We lost Virginia?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (9+ccr)

684 Romney ran a stellar campaign. I blame 2 things for our loss: the dirty, rotten, lying, traitorous MSM and the stupidity of the American people.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (DoZD+)

685 So two moderate RINOs in a row go down in flames to the Mulatto Marxist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (ZPrif)

686 Rove is pissing in the wind. Even if Mitt takes Ohio, Colorado & Florida are gone. Prob. Wisconsin too.

Posted by: America Fuck Yeah! at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (HINxj)

687 Now Barone is on. His prediction was an utter FAIL. The old models and old modelers do not work. Not that I'm going to subscribe to any investment newsletter that Nate Silver feels empowered to start sending out.

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (GJUgF)

688 468 Posted by: Paul Kroenke at November 06, 2012 11:43 PM (UQ27y) ________ Uh, you do realize the hurricane was THE news event for days on end, with Romney out of the picture, and Obama ll over the news?

Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (opS9C)

689 The nightmare never ends. I'm gonna try not to pay attention to politics for a while. Maybe come in here and make a fart joke now and then or say something funny about shirts.

We've lost our country and it ain't coming back.

And thanks John Roberts for making this night a hundred times words, you sack of fucking wormshit. But at least they won't say bad things about the Court now. They'll just replace you with a bunch of Communists. You DUMB DOUCHEBAG.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (6JMZR)

690 That MIGHT be true. We dont' know for certain. But what do we know for certain -- the RINO approach doesn't work either.

Exactly. We put up a Northeastern conservative--about as non-conservative as they come--and yet here come the inevitable calls for further moderation and identity politicking in response to the loss of this RINO.

Posted by: tommy at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (Ufxn1)

691 To all the Obamabot Trolls around here trying to relish in our misery,

You may not enjoy it so much once you get Obama's Full Monty. That's what's coming, and you won't have us to save you. But given your weird sexual fantasies involving that worthless loser, I'm sure you'll just take one for the team, and keep your cum-filled mouths shut.

Good luck.

Posted by: I'm going Galt now at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (5qcd7)

692 Romney ran a fantastic campaign. We couldnt have nominated a better person.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (DGIjM)

693 Conservatives have two problems: (1) We flee formerly red states that swing blue at the drop of a hat, thereby conceding those states.

Posted by: csmats at November 06, 2012 11:53 PM (pOSGo)


I've been telling people that for years. They just think I'm tedious because I keep telling 'em, nobody listens.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (bxiXv)

694 The media is going to carry water for him for the next four years, too.

Posted by: Dave R at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (G/2Ed)

695 Rove you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (nO18H)

696 Relax. Tonight isn't the end of the world. That comes December 21st.

Posted by: nobarmnofoul at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (dNhvi)

697 Gun and ammo sales will skyrocket now. So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (UOM48)

698 > This can't be! Something's wrong!

Yes.

> They had to of cheated bad,

Yes.

> and this could swing back to Romney in a big way.

Let me re-familiarize you with The Rules: cheating only counts as cheating if it can be pinned on a Republican.

Posted by: apotheosis at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (xWk3U)

699 So is this where we're picking up, now that the live blog is closed?

Posted by: Book at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (GYXSA)

700 Ryan won his district.
Anyone hear about Alan West?

Posted by: UncleDave at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (BnLFR)

701 Good news is the auto industry, detroit, and unions are probably going away on obama's watch

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

702
Bush is partly to blame. That dumb fuck is the reason Obama could
continue to blame his failures on a guy who was President 4 years prior.
He sucked. He damaged us in a major way.


I could not agree more. That tongue-tied compassionate conservative baffoon is probably the worst thing that ever happened to the Republican party.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (8cOY0)

703 Honestly, what more is there to make fun of Biden?

Will he start wetting his pants in public?

Posted by: Gerry at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (QK54y)

704 Is there somebody with a ball sack that can lead the House?


Posted by: Red Shirt at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (FIDMq)

lol

Posted by: The Dude at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (tw6Ar)

705 I think it is safe to say that if Obama actually does win...there is no point in elections this one was clearly rigged.

Posted by: Jimi at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (uvNSk)

706 Mitt was indeed the man for the hour. Anyone who wanted to ride Perry or Santorum or the other members of the clown convention is kidding themselves.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (fXInK)

707 Wow, Nevada for Obama.

We deserve what's coming.

Posted by: blehzor at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (s9K+V)

708 683 Demographics is destiny and we're destined to become another third world shithole. Welcome to the brave new world folks.
------------------------------

Yep. The tipping point is here.

Posted by: America Fuck Yeah! at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (HINxj)

709 666 638
A lot of you fuckers who are down on Romney are the same fuckers who
were talking how awesome he was after he owned Obama in the first
debate. Romney ran a good campaign.

Sad part is Romney was right 47% or more was baked in. Obama got his turnout, and no one, no one saw that shit happening.

Romney had a great campaign... it's hard to oust an incumbent... That being said obama is now responsible for what ever happens... pay backs a bitch isn't it???
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (9+ccr)


well stated

Posted by: Avi at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (40anC)

710 There are rich whites in Brazil. You can live a good life in Brazil. You just have to avoid the rampant crime. And not make yourself too much of a target for the political types who run the country and campaign on hating the rich whites.

Invest in barbed wire and iron window bars.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (ZPrif)

711 Posted this below, reposting here:I've bled, quite literally, to get to where I am today. I've fought and struggled and why? For what? To watch as half the country decides they want what I've earned?Let me be as clear as I can be: I did not party, I did not sleep around, I did not do drugs, I did not drink heavily, I studied, I worked, I put my nose to the grindstone to have some tiny, tiny measure of success. I tried to do the right thing. For that I will be punished. The moral of the story truly is never try.

I keep saying I'm going to go to bed, Alex, but I'm right there with you.

Time for sleep. Really. Maybe I'll die overnight. Or, I'll wake up and Mitt will have either pulled it out or refused to concede. Either way, I simply can't take things anymore. I'll finish my Hollywood stories for the week, and then I'm turning off everything except my own writing for a long, long, time. I can't take it anymore.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (gTyBq)

712 I was locked up in the county Courthouse until after 9 Texas time. Out of 4 precincts, 3 went for Mitt. Guess which one went for every hispanic name on the ballot? The hispanic one. Duh! Vote by name. School board on up. Like Mexico knows anything about good government! I want to ask them WHY DID YOU LEAVE MEXICO?

Posted by: Pecos at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (2Gb0y)

713 The laws of economics are unbreakable.

They can be ignored, by people who habitually engage in magical thinking.

But no one can create wealth (i.e., a growing economy) through governmental force. It's impossible.

Whatever media strategy the Republicans choose to adopt, maybe they'll start using this economic reality to their advantage, for once.

Posted by: Phinn at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (oFH2D)

714 Yeah, let's all start a third party and guarantee forty years of Democrat controlled EVERYTHING. That'll show 'em.

Jesus Asterisks Christ.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (JycCV)

715 The bad thing is I really hate chopping wood for heat,hunting and fishing, farming for my full diet. The good thing is I have a place where I can do that. Have fun leaches.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (cLAkX)

716
I think that the Republican party will probably split soon, into the "Tea Party" types and the Big Government RINO's. Which guarantees a very corrupt and rotten and stupid Democratic party a ruling position for some years to come.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch





Which is what happened in Canada. The PC dropped to two -- two MPs in 1993. Then you have the rise of the Reform party and in a few years the Right is back in power.

Creation can come from destruction.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (kdS6q)

717 Tonight isn't the end of the world. That comes December 21st.


I am praying for that. I am not remotely kidding.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (Gk3SS)

718 It looks like a good night for gay marriage and legalized pot, second look at libertarians?

Posted by: txconservative at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (5UMyr)

719 Stupid Gary Johnson voters did not help matters...

Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (opS9C)

720 Ah. Yay. Lib trolls.

Posted by: Book at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (GYXSA)

721 80% reporting Foxnews.com and CNN.com maps all show Ronmey leading in OH by 20k votes but Cleveland isn't even 50% counted

Posted by: BillS at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (kD5zU)

722 swings the most important election of our time.

Such is life.

Posted by: Ace at 11:17 PM

Well, I guess the next election will be the most important of our lives. You know, when Chuck Shumer faces off against Marco Rubio.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (3Y7RV)

723 This ain't over until Romney says it's over.

Posted by: Craig Poe at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (BVkEs)

724 640
I am still in shock. I just can't believe that the country voted for 4 more years of this. I just can't believe it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 06, 2012 11:54 PM (jucos)
Agreed. I really don't get it. 7.9% unemployement? GDP growth under 2%? Trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see?
It doesn't even bother me that Obama won; it bothers me that we've become the type of people who would reelect him.
I don't even know where conservatives go from here. Liberal policies have obviously failed, yet people want more of them. You simply can't fight that.

Posted by: Mullaney at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (s8XaI)

725 Fellow Morons, I said it in a previous thread ..

Without his enablers in the MBM , TFG would be seen as the total mediocrity that he is

When we wake up in the morning, the war on the MBM has to start for real

Posted by: kbdabear at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (wwsoB)

726 We are dealing with a fundamental shift in American Values; free shit and more free shit.

And the shifting demographics. And whoever is counting the votes.
We are fucked and I am sick over this.

Posted by: real joe at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (PD2ad)

727 The election was stolen.



Barack will be thanking us.

Posted by: The MFfknM at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (/Rruc)

728 Worst case, we still have the House and a filibuster. Which means deadlock for two more years.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (uhAkr)

729 I guess the land of The Takers has spoken. That free shit is gonna dry up in about 18 more months of Obama's watch. Good luck, parasites. Your host is dying.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (vbh31)

730 Well, no use crying over spilt milk. This weekend I'm going full-tilt disaster prep: Building up a list for Costco and checking out the gun shop.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (Y5I9o)

731 Been on the phone with dad and bro. What's going on?

Posted by: Infidel at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (Vk6ZI)

732 707 Mitt was indeed the man for the hour.
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 06, 2012 11:58 PM (fXInK)

Damn right. By the end of the campaign, he had me personally respecting him as an upstanding human being, not just someone I tended to agree with.

If he really is getting robbed tonight, he did not deserve any bit of it.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (csi6Y)

733 The new media is bullshit.

The MSM runs this country.

Posted by: Dan at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (/7gN/)

734 If Obama wins, fuck you third-partiers (or back-handed Romney endorsers), fuck you Reason magazine, fuck you Maggie Gallager@NRO, fuck you.

Posted by: lael at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (tUcg9)

735 Just bought another AR.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (u0MHM)

736 678 Is there somebody with a ball sack that can lead the House?

Would anyone have a problem with Issa?

Posted by: El Kabong at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (JycCV)

737 check out Ohio

Posted by: MarzipanFran at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (rHIsx)

738 If its the blame game lets go back to the 60s and 70s when the progs were infiltrating our school systems. They educated the brain dead welfare recipients that are voting today.

Posted by: Seasame street did this at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (ElSm3)

739 CO called for Jugears Von Golfmaster.

Posted by: George Orwell what know the nation is dead at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (AZGON)

740 Even if we can get Ohio if we lost Virginia and Fl. what's the point?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (9+ccr)

741 Instead of watching Paul Ryan a lot for the next 4 years, we get more of Mister "Eye Candy". That alone is enough to make me puke.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (DoZD+)

742 Now purity repubs, you can fuck yourselves to hell.



Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 11:33 PM (BdPNN)



--WTF are you talking about? Romney is not a "purity repub."


Logprof, I'm talking about any righties that voted non-R or stayed home because Romney is a "RINO".

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (YxaXw)

743 Grad school, or finish that CPA and head over to the IRS for me.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 11:50 PM (kdS6q)

--I'm working twice as fast on my Canadian citizenship.

Posted by: logprof at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (jKE+Z)

744 So two moderate RINOs in a row go down in flames to the Mulatto Marxist.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (ZPrif)

But Romney was next in line after losing to the other dude who lost to Obama

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (tw6Ar)

745 I'm a Canadian, but I have to say that Romney was a truly great candidate. He's a man of virtue and if there ever was a man that represented all that was good of the US, he was it.

If I were to assess what went wrong, I would say two things.

1. Half the population believes that the Republican party is the party that was against blacks and women voting. That it was the party that was for the KKK, etc. The main point is that messaging is a big issue and Republicans need to better counteract the liberal talking points.

2. Minorities. Newt said it in one of the debates that going against immigrants would lose. He said it point blank. No amnesty for people who were looking for a better life is a hardcore stance.

Could Mitt have done some things differently? Sure. But he can't solve those issues in a year. I thought he was a fantastic candidate.

Allen West is also a great candidate and it's razor thin.

Good luck!

Posted by: MrX at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (PxmNZ)

746 Rove has now conceded...
Socialism or and bust!

Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (d7Px0)

747 ____________________________


We have to start a new COUNTRY.

I know that many of you will simply look at a new year, a new presidency.
That is wrong. That is DOOM.

ACE, LISTEN TO ME:

AMERICA IS OVER. IT IS OVER.

Look at the mid-point of the film, The Day After.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE REALLY AT. - That is who we have found ourselves as.

I am sorry. It is simply true. IT IS OVER. period.


period.





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Posted by: _Dave_ at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (J+Q+d)

748 I noticed the commercial about a college class in 2030 China with the professor joking about how they now own America was being rebroadcast this morning.
its the future.

Posted by: Avi at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (40anC)

749 #675. Hell yes, let's hope Mitt won the popular vote. That will turn the "popular vote should be elected" meme from Gore's run on it's head. Just like the filibuster in the Senate sucks until it suddenly doesn't. Keep their heads spinning...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (GJUgF)

750 Romney ran a fine campaign for America pre 1990.

A rich white conservative guy is automatically despised by 47% of the country in 2012.

He had to run a perfect campaign to win. Instead he ran a very good campaign and lost by 1%.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (ZPrif)

751 >>>Fine, let's say I buy your premise. So now what? We just accept that the
only presidential candidate we could nominate this time was another
centrist who will lose? That's what we did in 2008, remember? Is this
the plan going forward? I mean... SOMETHING has to give.

sigh. No, I'm saying that your candidate had better have a brain in his skull, his shirt tucked in, and no history of banging his aides.

It's not enough to just keep saying "pick the True Con" if the true con we're talking about is a fucking dummy (Christine O'Donnell), nutty (Sharon Angel), weird and dumb (Akin), weird and prone to making up nonsense (Michelle Bachmann), twice divorced with a vengeful ex-wife (Gingrich), or having no bloody idea what the hell he's talking about AND alleged to be a player (Cain), or on paper a good candidate but constantly throwing up on himself in debates (perry, alas), or talking up how he wants to revisit the question of legal birth control (Santorum).

You cannot just keep insisting, over and over again, that the American people do not care about the following things:

1. Basic intelligence

2. Experience and gravity

3. "Not fucking weird"

Some of you do not seem to have any idea what the rest of the country views as "weird." Or at least you keep insisting that we can overcome this, somehow.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (LCRYB)

752 >>> Romney ran a stellar campaign. I blame 2 things for our loss: the dirty, rotten, lying, traitorous MSM and the stupidity of the American people.

Frankly, katya, "Different Greg" has an important too, and that point is demographics.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (SKX2R)

753 how can you call a vote when the military hasnt even gotten their ballots?

Posted by: ShameTheShameless at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (TFeHR)

754 It is over! If a Republican like Romney can not beat Obama with his record we can never win again....sad.....sick...out of politics for me...Hilliary will run in 16 she will win..Over.....sick...

Posted by: Beverley at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (ZmGpV)

755 I'm going to embrace the suck.Get free shit and spend the rest of my life playing video games and watching sports and pron.

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (9XBK2)

756 740
CO called for Jugears Von Golfmaster.

Good lord we lost Co.? WTF??? forget it he Country if fucked and they deserve tit...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (9+ccr)

757 I'm going to sign off with one of my favorite movie quotes from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

"You lost today kid, but you don't have to like it"

Night morons. I hope Walmart takes returns on pudding.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (xhupI)

758 i'm just not buying this shit. romney won the popular vote, had the optics and momentum, and then suddenly loses by more than 2 electoral votes...

three words:

BOSS.

TOM
KANE.

Posted by: sunnyblack at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (0LX7P)

759 Online? I guess it's time to pony up.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (9ghZ6)

760 >>>695
The media is going to carry water his "whole load" for him for the next four years, too.


FIFY.

Posted by: Miguel Estrada at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (cKfPM)

761 Colorado legalized weed, when did that state suddenly become Vermont in the Rockies?

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (T57vh)

762 That's three suicide attempt elections out out of four. Hahahahahaha! Will the country survive? Tune in next week as the world turns.

Posted by: andrew at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (5PdYy)

763 Tomorrow could be interesting in the markets. Futures are down, gold is up, I am thinking a lot of people were betting some serious cash on the non conventional wisdom and had convinced themselves that Romney might actually win.
Looks like these bets are being unwound.

Posted by: Finance Joe at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (KpxpC)

764 It can now be said of the American election-To the victor go the spoiled.

Posted by: BrianInWisconsin at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (MsOp2)

765
Mitt was indeed the man for the hour. Anyone who wanted to ride Perry or Santorum or the other members of the clown convention is kidding themselves.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX






Yeah! If we would have run either of those two we would have, you know, lost or something....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (kdS6q)

766 Fuck New York. I hope they can keep warrm by cuddling to Christie's Testicles.

Posted by: John at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (sl9ms)

767 It boggles the mind that the misleading headline the NYT attached to Romney's oped, "Let Detroit go Bankrupt" made things so very much more difficult for s in Ohio and other places.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (zrpqj)

768
Even if Obama drives the country over the fiscal cliff (which frankly looks more likely than ever), do you think that even then, the "people" will turn on him?

We still have a long way to go.This makes me unbearably sad, but this too, will pass.
I refuse to give in, and give up. This stupid bullshit will not stand.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (Md8Uo)

769 Socialism AND bust!

Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (d7Px0)

770
Oh, before I forget. To all the "conservatives" who chided me for not understanding the nuisance and political brilliance of John Roberts Obamacare decision....
Eat a bowl of shit you retarded cocksuckers.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (8cOY0)

771 As someone mentioned earlier this week, Trey Gowdy for
speaker of the house.

Posted by: Infidel at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (Vk6ZI)

772 I feel for our son. His second presidential election, and both times his guys have lost. Just risked his life for his country in that shit-hole Afghanistan, and will have to endure his hipster libtard older cousins bragging about their messiah being re-elected.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (UOM48)

773 There will be no Republican landslide in 2016 if they don't drop the socon and "no tax increase" issues. Demographics entirely favor the Dems in national elections.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (LmEvg)

774 Look guys: if Obama really won,

WE WILL SEE THE TRUE AND UNMITIGATED EFFECT OF DEMOCRATIC POLICIES FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

THEY WILL NOT HAVE A ROCK TO CRAWL UNDER.

This is a terrible thing, BUT PERHAPS A NECESSARY THING, to GET RID OF THE CONSUMER CANCER.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (csi6Y)

775 I am praying for that. I am not remotely kidding.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (Gk3SS)

I'll bring the absinthe to the party

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (tw6Ar)

776
I don't think you all get it. Even if Romney had won by an equally narrow margin it would have only forestalled the inevitable: A majority of our fellow citizens believes they are owed. It is their country now. Resist how you can, hide what you can, but accept the fact that the U.S. belongs to them and will become Greece within our lifetimes. There is nothing to stop them. The only solace we can take is that we owe no loyalty or duty to country or the law. Playing by the rules is for suckers now.

Posted by: JeffK at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (6Q1Sv)

777 Again, TrueCon Avengers...what did Romney do WRONG?

Benghazi...I'll concede that point, even though I don't think it would've made a difference.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (JycCV)

778 Romney has a small current lead in Ohio but almost all of the red counties have reported 100 percent. Cleveland, for some unknown reason, is stuck at 49 percent reported.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (yJYwC)

779 Recreational marijuana sounds pretty good right now.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (DoZD+)

780 Tonight isn't the end of the world. That comes December 21st.>>

Does Romney conceding change that?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (cLAkX)

781 My liberal friend just told me she doesn't really care so much that Obama won but that Mitt lost.
I said get ready for the end of the economy and she said, "well, that may be true but at least the republicans won't be in charge."


How can you win against that?
I'm leaving medicine and maybe the country before civil war breaks out.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (+paCV)

782 Stop blaming Sandy, Christie, Romney, Thievery, Bush or whatever other excuse you can conjure up.

The problem is the electorate. The electorate is what validates the media. The electorate is what tolerates fraud. The electorate is what blows with the wind. The electorate is willfully ignorant. This will not improve by 2016.

This is a deep, deep problem.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (uD2fR)

783 Obama will be writing exec orders right and left. God help us.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (1hNQS)

784 The ONLY reason the pollsters insisted on a D+8 or more model was so that when this happened we might be afraid t ocall fraud. I do not believe that the Dems got +8 legit not when polls showed ems enthusiasm down and not after the 2009 governors' races, the '10 midterms, and the '11Walker recall. No way did they do this honestly.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (KL49F)

785 oops. off horribly wronged former potential SCOTUS justice sock

Posted by: not Miguel Estrada at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (cKfPM)

786 >>> Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM

This.

As strikes the crack of midnight on this awful day, thus strikes wisdom.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (SKX2R)

787
OK, now can we go for blood.

First thing. No debt ceiling increase. We need to be the party of "Fuck No!" like they should have 2 years ago before everyone wanted to wait for the next election.

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (AC0lD)

788 for an AR I mean

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (9ghZ6)

789 How do true cons (I presume) like Akin and Mourdock do?

They both lost in states that Romney won, easily.

Shall we nominate more of such people? Or at some point will we take stock of what voters consider weird or alarming?



Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (LCRYB)

790 This is the REPUBLICANS' FAULT. Blaming anyone else but SELF is just a waste of breath.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (C34KJ)

791 @726:"Without his enablers in the MBM , TFG would be seen as the total mediocrity that he is"

I'd love to believe it, Kbda, but no. Have you seen our public schools and Universities up close? Do you think most people raised on that can reason their way out of a paper bag? I get mailing from students groups claiming that there's all this money to be had by soaking the rich. There fancy laminated fliers up from grad student unions calling for a "living wage" of $20,000. For grad student work. Seriously. The schools have demographic shifted this country on the road to serfdom, that ship has sailed...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (Y5I9o)

792 Obama will have more... Flexibility now.

Posted by: Boone at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (tIyK2)

793 "You cannot just keep insisting, over and over again, that the American people do not care about the following things:

1. Basic intelligence"

Tell me again, who is the Vice President?

Posted by: Gerry at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (QK54y)

794 Dude, it's not the libertarians. This election is not that close.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (azmhu)

It is the libertarians. Check Gary Johnson's percentage in FL and VA and OH. It is equal or greater than the % difference between Romney and Obama.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (d/5qf)

795 Operation chaos time: give'em what he wants for everyone to see the full results.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (sCI7M)

796 Ryan won his district.
Anyone hear about Alan West?


****

Ahead by only half a point

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (piMMO)

797 I talk to enough low info voters to know that they mostly believe Obama was handed a bad situation by the mean, incompetent Republicans and he just hasn't had enough time to fix it.

That was the propaganda from Day 1. I was terrified because it was baked so far into the cake...

And it worked.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (6JMZR)

798 Well, no use crying over spilt milk. This weekend I'm going full-tilt
disaster prep: Building up a list for Costco and checking out the gun
shop.


about 6 months late, but better late than never I guess.

Posted by: Killface at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (dr0xf)

799 With Co., Fl., and Virginia gone... I quit.. I'm going galt...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (9+ccr)

800 Just like FDR...You can buy an election

It is just that simple...sickning

Posted by: Chicken ala King at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (VvvBE)

801 Posted by: Tom at November 07, 2012 12:01 AM (MLuuF)


Fuck you, tapeworm.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (vbh31)

802 As of 12:03 Romney won popular by 230,000...

yeah..I'm a sore loser.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (53riN)

803 Romney leads by 20k votes in Ohio

Posted by: BillS at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (kD5zU)

804 Well I guess Ford Prefect needs to add an entry to the hitchhiker's guide.

United states:
Location....Earth
Silly place
Committed national suicide 11/6/2012

Posted by: Berserker at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (FMbng)

805 Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (LCRYB)

You tell 'em, ace.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (csi6Y)

806 No, Operation Chaos is coming:

DO NOT BUY OBAMACARE INSURANCE.

Posted by: Gerry at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (QK54y)

807 I'm done. I am going to begin downsizing my company tomorrow as I refuse to work hard to insure some young squeeze receives free fuck pills for the rest of her fertile life. And the first lib employee that opens his yap tomorrow gets shit canned.

Posted by: Yobobbyb at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (VzkNh)

808 Romney winning the popular vote n a national basis

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (piMMO)

809 The best part; Obama offered absolutely no plan or vision for the next four years. He was elected based on the color of his skin and 'I want free shit.'

That's your uphill battle.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (JycCV)

810 #782. Sure, you never report from your strongholds until you know how many votes you need to report. I'm not saying that was a factor here, but that's how da donks play da game...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (GJUgF)

811 @717 - but Canada's a parliamentary system, where a coalition of parties can form a majority and the head of government is comparatively weak.

If one looks at US history, ascendancy of one party has been less a function of its success than its opposition's failure - the pre-Civil War split in the Democrats, the Bull Moose walkout of the GOP, etc.




Posted by: JEM at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (o+SC1)

812 If everybody here respect Mitt's opinion, I'd like to point out-

He hasn't conceded yet.

So maybe let's wait to hear from him before we go nuts?

I mean, states have been called wrongly before.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (uhAkr)

813 Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 12:02>>

I still appreciate his sacrifice for what it's worth.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (cLAkX)

814 Both businesses in our family to be sold asap. There is no way we will risk another 4 years. Nope. Done. Carpetbaggers can apply at 8am tomorrow.

Posted by: Derak at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (lkjWK)

815 729 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM (uhAkr) _______ Deadlock? Obama ignores Congress, and does what he wants.

Posted by: Baldy at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (opS9C)

816

767

All you just did was vote to fuck yourself and your future you stupid troll. When your old and your kids ask you what happened to America be sure to tell them you got what you asked for. I have never seen a group of people more happy to rub themselves in shit and then smile with a proud look on their faces.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (T57vh)

817 777 There will be no Republican landslide in 2016 if they don't drop the socon and "no tax increase" issues. Demographics entirely favor the Dems in national elections.
Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (LmEvg)

Go fuck yourself. They already dropped serious entitlement reform and don't really do anything about social issues (which are probably the most popular republican platform anyway, other than lower taxes). What else is left? I'd rather just switch to dictatorship and cram my policies down liberals' throats (many of which will be implemented purely out of spite).

Posted by: Johnny at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (v9Yvj)

818 733 Exactly. When I voted in the primary, he was "the electable one". By the time November rolled around, my vote for Mitt was the proudest one I've ever cast.

Think about the Dems bench. With the exception of Hillary, Mitt would have wiped the floor with any of them. 2016 will not see star power, and I think we can (must) all look forward.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (fXInK)

819 Buck up, morons, and 'ronettes. You're sounding like John Kerry Dems when he lost to GWB.

Country will survive Obumbles, second term or not.

Yeah, we might all be eating mac and cheese and pinto beans within a year or two, but at least dipwad will fully own his economy.

As I said way back when Sarah Palin was getting dissed quite often, the low info voters vote for a nice smile, a cute family, an emotional feeling, a 'cool' guy, 'cause he can shoot some hoops, etc.

There are far fewer policy wonks like us than you think. The girls in my office have never heard of Bengazi. But they've damn sure heard of Romney's going to take away my birth control. They don't even know how that would happen and it doesn't matter. They have an emotional reaction to thinking it could happen. And they vote for the 'reasonable' guy who supports 'women's health'

So cheer up. Get over the beat down. Live to fight another day. Go Galt if you must. Use humor to educate your low-info 'regular' folks as you meet them as to who and what Obumbles is.

Believe me, after for years of what's coming, and especially if Ol' Joe Biden is still around and gets the nomination, anybody else will look good to ALL the voters.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (F22l6)

820 I know I am probably just fantasizing here but could this be a huge rope-a-dope? The Dems pushed their sure fire voters to the polls early to get that seeming big lead & when the early projections come in they are flawed because the expected turn out that the projections are built on are wrong because the high propensity voters have already turned out and the only thing left for Dems is dregs. If Romney concedes does it no longer matter if Obama technically loses? If Romney quits the field does Obama win regardless? If Dems turned out 7% of thier utter best it would look like a lock right up until the last minute when the bottom falls out of the gamed Dem numbers and Reps keep to the traditional turn out model. Would this not look as it does right up until that final couple percent?

Or should I start preparing for Armageddon?

Posted by: Jasonius at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (fGNOw)

821 Speaking of wisdom, also this:

Posted by: El Kabong at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (SKX2R)

822 783 Recreational marijuana sounds pretty good right now.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (DoZD+)

Yep, I could burn one.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (3Y7RV)

823 8-9 ever shorter generations on welfare leads to a Democrat Socialist state, huh?

Posted by: Rewrite! at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (d7Px0)

824 The old models and old modelers do not work.

The fraud is too great and none of us will never go live in those hell holes to try to keep an eye on them. They will steal it till the cows come home. Just like they did the last one and almost stole from Bush. The insane are running the asylum and it is time to go under the radar, off the grid. Fuck them.

Posted by: madamex at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (+kvQd)

825 Tell me again, who is the Vice President?
Posted by: Gerry at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (QK54y)

He's the VP for a reason!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (csi6Y)

826 The Losertarians are the best argument against legalized marijuana anyone could make.

Posted by: Gerry at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (QK54y)

827 793
How do true cons (I presume) like Akin and Mourdock do?

They both lost in states that Romney won, easily.

Shall we nominate more of such people? Or at some point will we take stock of what voters consider weird or alarming?





Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (LCRYB)

With respect to Akin - I have to hand it to McHagskill, she skillfully manipulated the Republican primary by running "attack ads" against Akin which portrayed him as "too extreme" but which served to cast him in a favorable light among the conservative electorate in this state. She absolutely would have been toast facing either of the other two R candidates.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (d/5qf)

828 So has the Seventh Seal been broken?

Writing and watching movies.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (SkUim)

829 Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:00 AM (LCRYB)

Is there ANYONE in the republican party who
is
1)willing to put themselves through the shit show of running of president
2) not an idiot
3) not weird -- and yes, I agree with you big time on this one. And I also think the abortion shit needs to stop. That battle is lost, there's nothing a president can do about it, and I'm sick of it being THE political issue.

but most importantly

4) able to truthfully articulate a conservative agenda and explain to people how it will help them, while also being able to speak over the MSM.

I'm starting to fear that the answer to that is no.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (azmhu)

830 And of course Akin really is an idiot.

Posted by: chemjeff at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (d/5qf)

831 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (uhAkr)

It's awfully hard without florida, which is O and almost 100% in.

Posted by: Johnny at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (v9Yvj)

832 Romney winning the popular vote n a national basis

Barely. And wait till CA takes a crap on those numbers.

Posted by: lorien1973 at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (mcWHD)

833
I talk to enough low info voters to know that they mostly believe Obama was handed a bad situation by the mean, incompetent Republicans and he just hasn't had enough time to fix it.

=====
Yup--I only ever heard one OBot voter discuss specifics and it was wholly made up.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (9ghZ6)

834 Can we start banning the fucking trolls here?

Posted by: Walkers! at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (C4dFv)

835 814 If everybody here respect Mitt's opinion, I'd like to point out-

He hasn't conceded yet.

So maybe let's wait to hear from him before we go nuts?

I mean, states have been called wrongly before.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (uhAkr)


THIS!!!!!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (csi6Y)

836 ________________________________


BRIEFLY: I HAVE TO HAND IT TO CAC. He was being KIND. CAC was being oh, so very nice.

We were killed, slaughtered, in Ohio. Oh, how I wish we could point at him and say, "Fucker, you should have called it for Romney!!!"

But it ain't so. He got OHIO right. FUCK. It simply is.

Time to ACCEPT.

such is time.


I'm going back to Plato and Socrates.












Posted by: _Dave_ at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (J+Q+d)

837 They both lost in states that Romney won, easily.

Shall we nominate more of such people? Or at some point will we take stock of what voters consider weird or alarming?



Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:03 AM (LCRYB)

How do you expect to get 50%+1 in a lot of cases?

If the electorate wanted social moderation, Mitt was the guy.

They rejected it for social progressivism.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (BBlzg)

838 Hey, Tom. Aren't you late to your glory hole?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (UOM48)

839 I am rendered speechless. In Denial that Obama and his ilk were the preferred choice.

DamnItAll.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (AZB/i)

840 Exit polls say many still blame Bush for the bad economy

Well, the JEF owns it now

Posted by: kbdabear at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (wwsoB)

841 You cannot just keep insisting, over and over again, that the American people do not care about the following things:

1. Basic intelligence

2. Experience and gravity

3. "Not fucking weird"


The "American People" just voted for a guy who is at the bottom of the barrel in all of the above.

But, it's all moot now. America is dead. Done. Too many America-haters hold citizenship and too many others are allowed residency and working, even against any and all laws. We are officially in the American Socialist Superstate, now. A very different, very nasty, very stupid, very stagnant place.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (X3lox)

842 I mean, states have been called wrongly before.>>

And with the MFM trying so desperately to their relevance there is no better time then now for them to lie.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (cLAkX)

843 Hell, we at AoS considered Akin and (to a letter extent) Mourdock weird, and WE ARE THE BASE. We will get what we have voted for, good and hard.

Posted by: Lee (in KY) at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (jgXna)

844 Posted by: Tom at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (MLuuF)

hey old man, it seems as if your nose is hitting the return as obama warms up on you for his victory celebration with reggie. maybe you could slide further back?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (Z9EHQ)

845 How did Sean Bielat do tonight? Or can we admit Truman North is right about him and his creepy stalking campaign workers?

Posted by: buzzion at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (GULKT)

846 This guy will probably have a hand picked majority on the Supreme Court before he leaves office.

I'm sorry, this is cause for despair.

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (Tlix5)

847 The parasites will now begin to consume the host.

Posted by: harleycowboy at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (+9AX9)

848
AMERICA IS DONE!
TIME TO RE-INVENT

BETTER THAN THE LAST...since this experiment...FAILED!!!!

wink...wink...BETTER NEXT TIME FOR SURE!!!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (tKpj6)

849 Heard from the Blaze that electorate was D+6. OMG!

Posted by: MrX at November 07, 2012 12:06 AM (PxmNZ)

850 I just can't take the stupidity. Romney opposes bailout = he wants auto industry destroyed, opposes contraception mandate= hates women, wants to change FEMA= wants people to die in storms.

When this is the depth of voters' thinking, you can't even have a goddamn conversation anymore, let alone win.

Posted by: LIGuy at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (HYD/Y)

851 It's Pathetic! The dips hit Obama voters have no idea how fucked they....It just simply crazy!

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (uvNSk)

852 Romney did not lose this race.

The Media won it.

Americans vote for the person who makes them feel good about themselves when they pull the lever. They want the likable guy. The media HID all of Obama's faults, his failures, his jack-assery.

You think Bush would have gotten away with flipping his opponents the bird during speeches without wall to wall coverage? HELL NO. And that's just ONE of the HUNDREDS of asshole things Obama is guilty of.

You want to take back the country? We have to take on the media. FULL TIME.

Posted by: Book at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (GYXSA)

853 673

Fuck Karl Rove.

Wouldn't it be nice if Republicans attacked
the media and entertainment industry with the same vengeance that the
Democrats use when they attack oil, coal and pretty much any other
productive industry? Excise taxes on movie ticket sales, repealing tax
breaks for entertainment companies and artfully crafted taxes on media
parent corporations would be a nice start. It can all be done under
thepretext of paying down our national debt.


But that will
never happen. Too many Republican politicians and conservative opinion
makers generally tend to be stupid and unimaginative. They would rather
endlesslybitch about media and entertainment industry bias than actually
do anything about it.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 06, 2012 11:56 PM (ZETiK)

Sean Hannity comes to mind. He is good at reciting the same talking points, but when some asshat Democrat puts up a straw man it is as if he is struck dumb. We need more Mark Steyns (someone save his sperm, so we can store his brilliance for a few generations.)Let's face it too; we lost one of our best, Breitbart, early this year. That sucked. Then we got stiffed by having several fucking tools like Akin. What a complete and utter fucking asshole. My God. Sometimes I think the Dems have been training Manchurian Candidates to inject into our party at the right time and this was one of them.
Ryan getting picked as veep was inspired; I had some concerns about Mitt but 1- he's a a business man and 2- he picked Ryan. That to me means that he was serious on some level about fixing things, and oh yeah, he talked A LOT about repealing Obamacare which is NOT popular. So he is soft on some things but Obamacare is a terrible danger and he recognised that.
I hope Ohio miraculously comes through but someone said FL got called for Obama? Is that right?

Posted by: Linlithgow at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (Gim9y)

854 666 638
A lot of you fuckers who are down on Romney are the same fuckers who
were talking how awesome he was after he owned Obama in the first
debate. Romney ran a good campaign.

Sad part is Romney was right 47% or more was baked in. Obama got his turnout, and no one, no one saw that shit happening.

Romney had a great campaign... it's hard to oust an incumbent... That being said obama is now responsible for what ever happens... pay backs a bitch isn't it???
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 11:55 PM (9+ccr)

Noonan was right as was Romney with the 47%. there are more Pauls than Peters

Posted by: Avi at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (40anC)

855 Cleveland, for some unknown reason, is stuck at 49 percent reported.
Posted by: Damn SockpuppetThey are still making up votes there. This is unbearably.....stupid.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (Md8Uo)

856 Well, to hell with it. I came late to liking Mitt Romney, but I was really impressed with him. He was the man to bring this country back and we were too blind to see it. I wish him well and am truly sorry that he is not going to be the next president.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (l3vZN)

857 Oh, and Mitt was cowed into not bringing up Libya in the third debate. The same way Roberts was cowed into reversing his OCare decision.

I'm not saying it was enough to change things, but damn... Libya was victory for us... and the treacherous cocksuckers knew it. They could bury it, but first they had to bully him into shutting up. It's a shame.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (6JMZR)

858 Christie will never hold a higher office. He's an adulterer.

Posted by: chris christie's concubine at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (AwCOd)

859 Sorry, I'm not trying to bash socons or hardcore conservatives with my comments above. I just hope that everyone realized that a vote for non-Romney was a vote for Obama and that we can't afford that. Yeah the establishment comes up with lukewarm candidates every time and we're told "think of the Dem alternative", but look how much damage TFG did in 4 years with a reelection to win and think about what he will do now.

If you didn't like Romney, fine I wasn't hot about him either. If you voted against Obama great. My apologies. I'm just hoping that no-one threw a vote away or stayed home.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (YxaXw)

860 618

You're spot on. The GOP brand is dead. If a terrible president like Obama can be reelected, even when we run a guy whose about as far from Bush as you can get in the GOP, its because the brand is dead.

Men like Akin and Mourdock, guys who can't keep their fucking mouths shut about issues they really have no reason to discuss (rape, are you fucking kidding me? this country's circling the toilet and we're talking about rape?) are further killing the GOP.

To be honest, I really think that we need a new party. Fiscally conservative, socially libertarian. I'm a pro-life Catholic, but we can't keep running out candidates who alienate more than half of the women in this country over an issue that really must be left up to one's conscience.

If we're lucky, this country will only still be circling the drain in 2016, rather than falling right in. Economics, role of government, fiscal issues must be the defining issue of any party that takes shape. We can no longer allow ourselves to be distracted by social issues that the government has no reason to be involved in.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (LN5eJ)

861 It is too close to call, Fox News doesn't decide the election, the votes do. If Romney concedes, he's an imbecile because this is all part of the strategy. Look, who controls the release of data from votes? The Secretaries of State. Who has been working for 8 years to get control of these guys and use them to control elections? Soros and company.

Romney needs to hold on until the real count is out, not some 2% estimate handed him by his enemies. They'll like like dogs, they've done it all week about the early voting count. Concession lets that lie become fact, and when it comes out that was all crap, who's going to do anything about it? The Holder Justice Department? The Obama administration? The Roberts Supreme Court?

These results make absolutely no sense. Romney has got to hold on.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (r4wIV)

862 Hey Jane D'oh glad to see you again. How are things?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (SkUim)

863 O-nother
Big
Ass
Mistake
America

Posted by: still in shock at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (cKfPM)

864 848

Sweetheart, if they weren't so tiny, maybe I could FIND them.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (53riN)

865 Non Servium

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (xKC/c)

866 Republican party will devolve into infighting over sequestration and the debt ceiling increase, Obama will proclaim a mandate and the media will back him up, and the GOP as we know it will rapidly collapse.

The "coalition" between fiscal conservatives and socons cannot survive any longer (I'm amazed it lasted this long), and isn't viable electorally at the national level, and won't be for anyone's lifetime, not with demographic trends.

The GOP is finished. And deservedly so.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (LmEvg)

867 SMOD TAKE ME NOW. MORE WHISKEY.

Posted by: Infidel at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (Vk6ZI)

868 The new media is bullshit. The MSM runs this country.

Posted by: Dan at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM

Yep. The MSM may be a dinosaur, but it's still a T-Rex. New media is biting it's ankles and changing the game somewhat, but, Rexy is still king and decides what's what. It really is going to take a metoer to bring the big bastard down.

Posted by: otho at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (yBF/9)

869 777 - so basically - quit running on a platform other than that chosen by the democrats.

Posted by: Boone at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (tIyK2)

870 Apparently California passed the safe sex in porn law. I do not want to hear one more fucking word about how the Left wants to stay out of the bedroom.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (Gk3SS)

871 777 There will be no Republican landslide in 2016 if they don't drop the
socon and "no tax increase" issues. Demographics entirely favor the
Dems in national elections.
-

Fight for more favorable demographics.

Or give up and die. There are no other options.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (4qa9e)

872 Reggie1971:
>> I could not agree more. That tongue-tied compassionate conservative baffoon is probably the worst thing that ever happened to the Republican party.

Well, his dad only derailed the Reagan revolution, so there was no way to see it coming...

Posted by: sandy burger at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (KDek4)

873 I'll be taking some time off from coming here now folks.Love you all(except the trolls),I even love JeffB(in a totally non ghey way!NTTAWWT).

Posted by: steevy at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (9XBK2)

874
Posted by: Jasonius at November 07, 2012 12:05 AM (fGNOw)

tin foil is a nice color on you

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (tw6Ar)

875 And someone banhammer Tom up there.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (SkUim)

876 See, there's no conceivable way in reality that Democrats had that huge a turnout, it just makes no sense whatsoever. It just cannot have happened, so what's really going on?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (r4wIV)

877 ____________________________


Look, you can respect and LOVE Romney (as I surely do) and still accept his open loss.

FUCK. gawdamn FUCK~~~!!!! fuck.





fuck


Posted by: _Dave_ at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (J+Q+d)

878 <<You cannot just keep insisting, over and over again, that the American people do not care about the following things:

1. Basic intelligence

2. Experience and gravity

3. "Not fucking weird">>



Because McCain and Romney were such winners... but hey, LOVE how one day you talk about the Reid machine and how no opponent in Nevada can overcome it, then talk about how "nutty" Angle was.

Screw it.

My vote's never going to an establishment centrist again. Don't like it? Don't give a shit. I was told Obama HAD to go. Then I was told he WAS going. This is what America wants.

I won't play the numbers game any more.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (UU6uJ)

879 I had a bet on O winning even though I was all for Romney. Fact is that betting on the stupidity and greed of the public is always a good bet. Now that America has jumped the shark it's better than good, it's safe. Wish I'd lost the bet though.

Posted by: econowillie at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (fSkKy)

880

I'm talking about any righties that voted non-R or stayed home because Romney is a "RINO".

Posted by: Where're my ping




I have no doubt that, once again as in 2008, the conservative core turned out en-mass for the ticket. As for the "Fiscally Conservative - Socially Moderate" types, I expect they were the margin once again for Obama, along with Democratic turn out.

Have to see the final totes tomorrow to know.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (kdS6q)

881 Upside to tonight: I've already deleted about 20 FB "friends".

Posted by: Country Singer, who's hoarding ammo and food just in case at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (meVGV)

882 These results make absolutely no sense. Romney has got to hold on.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (r4wIV)

100%!!!!!

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (csi6Y)

883 How, exactly, do we know Ohio is over? Latest data shows Romney ahead in 49.4% vs 49.0%, 82% reporting. Where is this other 18% and how do we know they're going O?

Or is the idea that it's within the margin of fraud and therefore lost?

Posted by: D. R. Ainbough at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (BgIBZ)

884 854
Sweetheart, if they weren't so tiny, maybe I could FIND them.

sorry 848

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (53riN)

885 >>> I'm going back to Plato and Socrates.

Don't forget Epictetus.
http://goo.gl/PxN9X

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM (SKX2R)

886 If Obama wins this I will never vote Repub again.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (uvNSk)

887 Conservatism's problem: Liberals get to preemptively define it as bad for womyn, chyldryn and pooah peeples...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (GJUgF)

888 The Border. It's been the dems end game all along. The brown wave coupled with the desire for revenge. It should have been closed down a long time ago but now it never will.

Posted by: osu at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (G4dDt)

889
How in the hell can blue collar workers in MA deal with that bitch?
Take your kids out of public schools, people. I taught in them for decades and know the silly liberalism they teach--they demand no responsibility from kids so these kids have grown into adults that feel they needn't take responsibility for anything.

As for my liberal teaching colleagues, many of them women who are quite bright. Well, they associate the GOP with waht they call crazy fundamenatlists, even if they didn't think of Romney as one, and when that asshole Akins did his thing, that's all they had to hear to fear that letting the GOP have the Oval would lead to us letting guys like that have their silly notions be heard. It's not that Akins was anti-abortion that angered them. It's that every negative they presume of a Southern fundy was reinforced when he said what he did about a woman not being able to get pregnant from a rape.
Of course, in other decade, the media wouldn't have made that a national story so it wouldn't have been attached to the top of the ticket, but things are different now, and just a week or so before the election, another GOP candidate used stupid language about rape.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (wgmUB)

890 If we're lucky, this country will only still be circling the drain in 2016, rather than falling right in.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 07, 2012 12:07 AM (LN5eJ)


Oh, no, we've been circling the drain for five years. That huge noise you hear is the gurgle before the rest disappears and the tank starts filling again.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (bxiXv)

891 824 Yep, I could burn one.

Trust me, it's not helping. It's just harder to see the monitor.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (Qxdfp)

892 WE ARE EUROPE light now.



Posted by: _Dave_ at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (J+Q+d)

893 To anyone who claims Mitt "lost" because of his wealth: Obama is a multi millionaire! He just bought a $35 million mansion in HI! He went to elite schools full of snobs! He got a lot of $$ from a book he didn't even write.He got things handed to him simply b/c of the color of his skin. At least Mitt earned his wealth.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (KL49F)

894 Well this i not how i expected to end this evening... That being said Obama now has to take responsibility for what happens now... Cant' blame his predecessor because that is him...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (9+ccr)

895 sigh. No, I'm saying that your candidate had better have a brain in his
skull, his shirt tucked in, and no history of banging his aides.

It's
not enough to just keep saying "pick the True Con" if the true con
we're talking about is a fucking dummy (Christine O'Donnell), nutty
(Sharon Angel), weird and dumb (Akin), weird and prone to making up
nonsense (Michelle Bachmann), twice divorced with a vengeful ex-wife
(Gingrich), or having no bloody idea what the hell he's talking about
AND alleged to be a player (Cain), or on paper a good candidate but
constantly throwing up on himself in debates (perry, alas), or talking
up how he wants to revisit the question of legal birth control
(Santorum).

______________________________________

Ace, I agree with this 100%, but I see the frustration. Because of the way that the Media shapes the narrative in favor of the Democrats, they can run their own base-appeasing weirdos (Bernie Sanders - I know, but he caucuses with the Democrats) or nuts (Warren) or drunken uncles (Biden), or even run candidates who have a thing about praising the gallantry of the Confederate soldiers (Webb) or a history of service in the hierarchy of the Klan (Byrd) where none of it becomes the brand of the party.

As a practical matter, you are right. On an emotional level, it feels fundamentally unfair.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (Nfpnr)

896 100% of Red districts in Ohio are in, not all of Dem districts are in. Romney lost Ohio.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (LmEvg)

897 Is it too early to start marching on our state capitols to demand changing of our Primaries and getting voter ID in as many states as possible?

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (FIDMq)

898 WE WILL SEE THE TRUE AND UNMITIGATED EFFECT OF DEMOCRATIC POLICIES FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.


THEY WILL NOT HAVE A ROCK TO CRAWL UNDER.


This is a terrible thing, BUT PERHAPS A NECESSARY THING, to GET RID OF THE CONSUMER CANCER.
Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (csi6Y)


It will be fun watching all these gloating trolls trying to defend the next four years.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (1PE/J)

899 If its within the margin of fraud Romney does lose, but they have to hold the line and wait for the real count. Don't give up in Ohio, or Penn or Florida or anywhere till you see the real numbers. Look, even the polling didn't show this kind of thing happening, and it was ridiculous. You cannot tell me this is the real deal.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (r4wIV)

900
I await the Zombie Apocalypse.

The only way to prevent the 60 years of darkness under the barrel of a gun is to have 60 years of darkness running from monsters.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (Ea64Y)

901
Prediction for my future: my stepfather, who voted for Obama will pass away about the time my mother (who also voted for Obama) loses her state-paid memory medication and she has to come live with me, to which, I will have to leave my pathetic paying job and take care of her to make sure she doesn't burn the house down. My grown children (who all voted for Romney) may have to move in with me as well because none of us will beable to afford a house payment and utilities on our own.


And with that, we've become Mexico!

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (DoZD+)

902 Romney winning the popular vote n a national basis

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 07, 2012 12:04 AM (piMMO)


That doesn't matter, at all. Not one bit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (X3lox)

903 Give the polls credit. They said Dem turnout would win and they were either right or they were wrong about the independent vote, which still makes them right in a way. We'll see over time. But either way, the polls were right, more so than even they thought. Learn.

Could Romney have attacked on Benghazi? Would it have made a difference? I won't second guess Romney -- he had a truly phenomenal first debate and I tip my hat to him. But in the closing month had he ignored the polls -- the independent numbers that ultimately didn't pan out -- and attacked hard instead of standing pat on the economic numbers, would it have changed things?

No way to know. But stop listening to the polls and hit the other guy hard, from all angles available. The polls are never the friend of conservatives. That's one of the lessons to me. Why'd we have to learn it yet again this cycle?

Posted by: csmats at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (pOSGo)

904 >>>crew it.

My vote's never going to an establishment centrist
again. Don't like it? Don't give a shit. I was told Obama HAD to go.
Then I was told he WAS going. This is what America wants.

Right back at ya. I'll not support weirdoes and mutants anymore.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (LCRYB)

905 Hey, Mark Steyn just got a third book to write, so there's that.

"America Alone", "After America" ...

I think, "America the Fucked" would round out the trilogy nicely.

Posted by: Andy at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (OZPoa)

906 Tuition is paid, so I'll probably finish out the year. But two more years of school -- time, money, agony -- to qualify to become an indentured servant?

I'm thinking not.

Posted by: little miss spellcheck at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (a5ljo)

907 889 The Border. It's been the dems end game all along. The brown wave coupled with the desire for revenge. It should have been closed down a long time ago but now it never will.
Posted by: osu at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (G4dDt)

That is Bush's fault, oh and Reagan's too. sigh.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (KL49F)

908
Florida will probably go for Obama.

We were all over optimistic about what we expected.

The conclusion is that a good percentage of the electorate is really dumb.

I really hope the economy comes back, there are compromises on the economy, etc.
But Obama is a mean spirited vindictive man. You saw that in the campaign. He can pretend for a while, but we have been betrayed by a Fifth Column Media, which constantly played on the dumbest fears of the electorate.

Forward! Into the dump!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (Md8Uo)

909
Apparently California passed the safe sex in porn law. I do not want to hear one more fucking word about how the Left wants to stay out of the bedroom.

Posted by: alexthechick





Goddammit! There goes my day job!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (kdS6q)

910 858 - 87% in, 68-31 O

Posted by: SnowyOwl at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (Kn0ng)

911 Seriously, I want to destroy this 'RINO Romney' and 'RINO establishment' 'cost us the election' meme.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (JycCV)

912
I guaran-friiggin-tee you that Putin and the entire Chinese Communist party are both grinning ear to ear and saying to themselves "Can you believe this Shit? Lenin was right! They ARE useful idiots!"
Predictions...
Complete economic collapse of the United States (3 years)
Our military gutted (immediately)
Outlawing of private gun ownership (within 1 year)
Severe increase in crime, nationwide(1.5 years)
Complete collapse of the best health care system in the world (2-3 years)
Food shortages (3 years)
Invasion of another foreign country (countries)(3.5 years)
Detonation of nuclear device(s?) on American soil ( before the end of this presidency)
Welcome to the end of America.

Posted by: boomboom at November 07, 2012 12:11 AM (VSzXk)

913 So, when do we start rioting? That's right, no matter what happens, we won't. We are civilized. Only the children of Obama riot.

Fuck it. I'm going to play Assassins Creed 3.

Posted by: CharlieSays at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (2aJHq)

914 Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 07, 2012 12:02 AM (UOM4

--It's disgusting how much 0bama shat on the military and yet may have won Virginia.

Posted by: logprof at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (jKE+Z)

915 but, look on the bright side: the Republican nomination for 2016 will start in two solid blue states, Iowa and New Hampshire!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (d/5qf)

916 I do not want to hear one more fucking word about how the Left wants to stay out of the bedroom.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (Gk3SS)


You will. Every day.

Because they lie about everything.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (bxiXv)

917
Linlithgow,
"Sean Hannity comes to mind. He is good at reciting the same talking points, but when some asshat Democrat puts up a straw man it is as if he is struck dumb."
That's funny. Sean Hannity was exactly who I had in mind when I typed that. "Let not your heart be troubled my friends..."

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (ZETiK)

918 To be honest, I really think that we need a new party. Fiscally conservative, socially libertarian. I'm a pro-life Catholic, but we can't keep running out candidates who alienate more than half of the women in this country over an issue that really must be left up to one's conscience.

I agree. Many northern states are receptive to this message, of course the Akin types wont tolerate any exceptions

Posted by: Avi at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (40anC)

919 Ace, the GOP could have nominated Gary Johnson. Why the stacked the stage with a bunch of socon idiots to keep him off it, and nominate Mitt, is beyond me...

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (LmEvg)

920 Ohio, Florida and Virginia are not enough. It's over unless one other state has been called incorrectly as well like Colorado or Wisconsin.

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (4cRnj)

921 #704
I'd say its at least 50-50 that Biden is out before 2016.

Posted by: Looking closely at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (+PDlV)

922 I think Karl Rove should not be listened to anymore in terms of strategy. Anyone agree?

The reason Romney won is that he let Obama define him early. You can't do that. You have to respond to that shit.

Posted by: james at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (1PqiV)

923 Israel is now going totally off chain. Iran is getting hit.

Nice job, liberals on starting WWIII.

Hope you enjoy tonight. The hangover is going to be a bitch.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (TMB3S)

924 I look forward to the first two minutes tomorrow morning, after I wake up but before I remember what happened tonight. Or at least I hope I get 120 seconds.

Posted by: Mayday at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (F3s39)

925 892 824 Yep, I could burn one.

Trust me, it's not helping. It's just harder to see the monitor.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (Qxdfp)

I'd take that challenge. I've been stoned once in the past eight years. That's gonna recieve an adjustment.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (3Y7RV)

926 898 Is it too early to start marching on our state capitols to demand changing of our Primaries and getting voter ID in as many states as possible?
Posted by: Red Shirt at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (FIDMq)

No. This was stolen due to voter fraud. Even the UN said they were shocked we don't have voter id.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (KL49F)

927 Well good night... sorry this is such a disaster, but we can safely say we are not responsible...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:12 AM (9+ccr)

928 "Yeah, we might all be eating mac and cheese and pinto beans within a year or two, but at least dipwad will fully own his economy."
No, no he won't.

The media not only protected him on this but repeated his talking points about Bush...and the electorate bought it. just like they're going to buy it for the next four years of depression. Just like they bought it in the 1930s.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (uD2fR)

929 I was serious earlier. Starting tomorrow I`m getting ahead of the curve. Cash only baby!!!

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (nwHKt)

930 >>>887 If Obama wins this I will never vote Repub again.

Yeah, that'll show 'em!

Posted by: El Kabong at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (JycCV)

931 Control education. Control the media. We are not playing on a level playing field. There was no war on women. There was Benghazi. The media is corrupt and the people are not wise enough to reject their crap.

Posted by: California red at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (DXTKe)

932 @820:Buck up, morons, and 'ronettes. You're sounding like John Kerry Dems when he lost to GWB.

Country will survive Obumbles, second term or not.
----
But the problem there is that GWB was not who the hyperventilating Dems said he was. Obama, on the other hand, quite likely is exactly who we think he is...

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (Y5I9o)

933 "Memo to Pennsylvania and Ohio"Catholics" who voted for Obama:"

Right now I'm praying that he doesn't mandate that health insurance covers abortion.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (jLiVY)

934 > To be honest, I really think that we need a new party. Fiscally conservative, socially libertarian.

That's Gary Johnson! And yes, absolutely, 100% agree. That's the party that can compete with the demographic changes that have occurred.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (LmEvg)

935 Ugh I meant Romney LOST

Posted by: james at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (1PqiV)

936
14: Rick Santorum would have cause me and millions like me to flee although I like the guy personally. I don't think he has a Presidential temperament .

Why can't the social conservatives be happy with asking for an education campaign against, for example, third trimester abortion? Explain the inhumanity of it, put ads on, educate, but don't try for the whole ball of wax. It took decades of public service announcement to finally educate Americans of the dangers of smoking, and finally, it paid off a great deal. Outlawing cigs wouldn't work.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (wgmUB)

937 As for my liberal teaching colleagues, many of them women who are quite
bright. Well, they associate the GOP with waht they call crazy
fundamenatlists, even if they didn't think of Romney as one, and when
that asshole Akins did his thing, that's all they had to hear to fear
that letting the GOP have the Oval would lead to us letting guys like
that have their silly notions be heard. It's not that Akins was
anti-abortion that angered them. It's that every negative they presume
of a Southern fundy was reinforced when he said what he did about a
woman not being able to get pregnant from a rape.
Of course, in other
decade, the media wouldn't have made that a national story so it
wouldn't have been attached to the top of the ticket, but things are
different now, and just a week or so before the election, another GOP
candidate used stupid language about rape.

__________________________________________

Apparently they're not bright enough to understand that the United States Senate does not have the latitude to set policy regarding rape exceptions to the Judge-created right to abortion.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (Nfpnr)

938 I think it's safe to say Romney's political career is over. I think it's also safe to say that Hillary has a good shot in '16 (God help us) given the clear change in demographics. We're no longer a center-right country anymore. People want their free shit - there's no way around that now.

From now on, you get to choose whether you want to be a maker or a taker. I've been a maker all my life - never a taker. Why? What's the use?

It's time to check my guns, buy more ammo and start banking food and gold. Then close up home business, quit my day job and sign up for every fucking government program for free stuff that exists.

Posted by: Not an Artist at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (uRumV)

939 >> Right back at ya. I'll not support weirdoes and mutants anymore.

Right on, boss.

Posted by: Andy at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (OZPoa)

940 Romney will not win the popular vote.

California, Washington, Oregon, and Hawaii are still not counted

Posted by: The Q at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (w4fEE)

941 And it looks like prop 30 is ahead in CA.

So, an extra sales tax (temporary, but a committee gets to say when it's not temporary), and those making over $250k get it in the ass. Unfortunately, that's us. So - as individual contractors and business owners - do we just go on vacation when we hit $249k?

I hate them all. They all want my shit. When I was 20 I didn't want anybody's shit, I wanted my own. So I work for 35 years - and had a lot of failures. Now, I get to give it away. I guess I have an antiquated idea of "fair" huh?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (Qxdfp)

942 We've become Europe lite? They shure don't want that, we have to grow our economy so we can carry they on our backs. Not gonna happen, and not because anyone gets to choose. Math will win, everyone else will lose...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (GJUgF)

943 In VA, Allen had a primary challenge from a Tea Party lady. He won easily.

And he still lost to lowlife Tim "Mr. DNC and "Let's close the rest stops to fix the budget!"" Kaine.

So depressing.

Posted by: VAgirl at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (U9x6W)

944 Well here in the formerly great Commonwealth of Virginia, the difference is the turnout from 08 to 12. Romney trailed McCain's turnout by 60,000 votes. Obama was down about 240,000 votes. If the GOP had turned out as they did in 08, Romney wins Virginia. At 6pm tonight when I took the dog for a walk, we walked by our polling place, and it was empty. It is usually full at that time, and it is the precinct that the GOP does the best in my city.


I really think their is a campaign fatigue out here, we were getting 5-8 phone calls a day for the past 3-4 weeks, and that shit starts to get real old. This was on top of the polling that took place all summer and fall, and the nonstop television and radio ads. I even got 6 calls during the day to GOTV, then I got one at 6:59PM to go vote.


I have really begun to hate living in a swing state.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (Zd/NW)

945 A new party will do nothing. Look at history, at Canada- bringing in a new party just splits votes for decades to come. The ONLY way to fix this is to reform the GOP from within. Period.

Posted by: Book at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (GYXSA)

946 And by the way, Romney was a great canidate. I don`t believe Reagan could have won with this electorate.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (nwHKt)

947 This guy will probably have a hand picked majority on the Supreme Court before he leaves office.

I'm sorry, this is cause for despair.
Posted by: Aaron


Jarret said they have two judges ready.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (+paCV)

948 871 The new media is bullshit. The MSM runs this country. Posted by: Dan at November 06, 2012 11:59 PM
The MSM are traitors to this country. They betrayed the entire nation with their lies and collusion to hide information. They might as well be enemy soldiers lining us up in front of a firing squad.

Posted by: CatsPaw at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (OTWsz)

949 Posted by: Tom at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (MLuuF)


Yo retard,
So what do think. Change our name to New Spain, Greece, Portugal or some other broke ass broken down socialist country.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (1PE/J)

950 "If the electorate wanted social moderation, Mitt was the guy.

They rejected it for social progressivism."

...so let's run a social regressive like sweater-vest santorum to get them to turn our way?

what?

the ultrareligious rich-white-guy image doesn't do it for america anymore.

i mean, i'm no class-warrist, but just as a practical matter, running a rich white banker just four years after a bunch of rich white bankers got paid for wrecking the economy?

the gop needs a hip transplant fast...cuz right now it's about as cool as robot fetishism, rubik's cube, and the throwback day-glo suspenders of the decade in which most of its leadership is apparently still living.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (79EF9)

951 As for the "Fiscally Conservative - Socially Moderate" types, I expect
they were the margin once again for Obama, along with Democratic turn
out.


Yes, they joined the butthurt Ron Paul cultists and voted en masse for Gary Johnson, who split the vote in FL, VA and OH and delivered teh election to Obama

Posted by: chemjeff at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (d/5qf)

952
848
lick your balls....lick your balls...a new day just dawned....short time for your ideology...cause we play a much more deadly game next time around...and you will.... pufff....just saying...puuufffff!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (tKpj6)

953 "It will be fun watching all these gloating trolls trying to defend the next four years."

Yikes!, no it won't be. Because they won't. They didn't even attempt to defend the last four, just promised more "free" shit to people who couldn't cite a single economic statistic. These voters don't know how much debt we are in, how large our deficit is, what the Federal Reserve even is (much less QE), how ObamaCare will supposedly work...all they know is more food stamps and supposedly free health care.

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (Tlix5)

954 Sad!

Oh Well.......America can finally collapse now! Maybe we will be free and prosperous on the other side.

Just hope it happens sooner than later.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (uvNSk)

955 The next person to bring up Akin as the reason gets a punch to their junk. WTF some pissant threw this election. Free phones and graft did this. so fuuuuukk you for picking a bailiwick like that to beat us like the dems do.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (cLAkX)

956 >>> so basically - quit running on a platform other than that chosen by the democrats.
Posted by: Boone at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM

Do you believe in a democracy or not?

If so, you'll either run on policies people want, persuade people, or lose. But the people have moved left. That's a fact.

You don't doubt that, I'm sure.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (SKX2R)

957 I'm a pro-life Catholic, but we can't keep running out candidates who
alienate more than half of the women in this country over an issue that
really must be left up to one's conscience.


You just severely contradicted yourself. You do realize that, don't you? I've had enough, for tonight. I'll have to have myself committed if I try to wrap my arms around this shit.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (vbh31)

958 Juan Williams just said "there's a new kind of politics." Death knell for what just went down...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (GJUgF)

959 Just remember this is still part of the 100 year plan and the right side has only been at it for 3.5 years

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (Ea64Y)

960 >>>>947 And by the way, Romney was a great canidate. I don`t believe Reagan could have won with this electorate.

Truth.

Posted by: El Kabong at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (JycCV)

961
Look everybody is upset and venting, which I get.
But instead of giving up, we need to grow up and stand up and fight smarter next time.
We lost - for now.
Let's look at the things we do have because we know well enough Obama is going to be a major failure.
That is opportunity for us, for Rubio, for Ryan, for Jindal and all the great statesmen (and women) to fight day by day and step by step to get the country back.
No teaparty Rino bullcrap, this is too serious to let the party implode.
Ladies and Gentlemen, let's get it back. We lost a major campaign, but the war goes on.
Let's get to it.

Posted by: Rosebud at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (toxig)

962 88% of OH reporting, Obummer has STILL not exceeded 50%, but he has the lead by 45,000 or so votes. Interestingly, the number of Libertarian and other right-of-center independents amounts to over 40,000 votes. Thanks for nothing guys.... 5,000,000 of 8,000,000 voters have cast ballots here.

What gets me about the swing states is that Obummer's supporters had lower turnout, Republican ballots were up, and Obummer is still managing to eke out wins. QED we are witnessing massive electoral fraud, well beyond that which put JFK into office in 1960. The election is being stolen before our eyes as we speak.

Posted by: exdem13 at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (1GunI)

963 942
And it looks like prop 30 is ahead in CA.

So, an extra sales tax
(temporary, but a committee gets to say when it's not temporary), and
those making over $250k get it in the ass. Unfortunately, that's us. So -
as individual contractors and business owners - do we just go on
vacation when we hit $249k?

I hate them all. They all want my
shit. When I was 20 I didn't want anybody's shit, I wanted my own. So I
work for 35 years - and had a lot of failures. Now, I get to give it
away. I guess I have an antiquated idea of "fair" huh?


Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (Qxdfp)

How or WHY are there any business left in that state is amazing

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (FIDMq)

964 i ahve a parlay pending with "romney wins florida" as the kicker.....am i screwed?...

Posted by: rocky m at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (YI0M3)

965 >> I agree. Many northern states are receptive to this message

Tell that to Scott Brown.

Posted by: Andy at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (OZPoa)

966 >>> See, there's no conceivable way in reality that Democrats had that huge a turnout, it just makes no sense whatsoever. It just cannot have happened, so what's really going on?

Ah, for fuck sakes, dude.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (SKX2R)

967 Okay... I guess free stuff beats fiscal security..

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (9+ccr)

968 947
And by the way, Romney was a great canidate. I don`t believe Reagan could have won with this electorate.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (nwHKt)


Or the MEDIA

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (Ea64Y)

969 Everyone keeps explaining O's victory as "People want their free shit". That's the wrong lesson.

The right lesson is that socon issues are a losing strategy nationally. Period. The younger generation and the media want nothing to do with it, and care more about those issues than fiscal issues.

It's not that they *don't* care about fiscal issues, but the shit socons are pushing is an immediate "hell no", no matter what other good things come along with it.

Most of the country is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Right now, each party is taking one half of that. A party that went after both would win.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (LmEvg)

970 I wonder how many libtards are going to the Emergency room tomorrow after they poke a hard core Con.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (3Y7RV)

971 Just posted on my Facebook Page....

To all those who voted for Obama: You can no longer blame Bush... this is NOW ALL ON YOU! Good or Bad.... this is YOUR decision.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (lZBBB)

972 If Obama truly wins then it simply doesn't matter who the Democrats run. Hillary Clinton's corpse will win in 2016 if this loser can pull off a victory against all historical basis and logic, against every indicator in the past and during a crappy economy without even bothering to offer a plan. The man won on Revenge and vaginas for God's sake, it simply doesn't matter what a Democrat says or does if he can pull a win out here.

If that's the case, then the campaign is irrelevant, the positions mean nothing, what you do in office has no effect on your job, and all that matters is a D next to your name.

But seriously, are you going to tell me that every pundit on the planet except the radical outliers like Democrat Underground were totally wrong and its not even going to be that close? Seriously?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (r4wIV)

973 I think it's safe to say Romney's political career
is over


Posted by: Not an Artist at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM (uRumV)

does being a Governor for one term really constitute as a career?

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (tw6Ar)

974 So, I posted my thoughts on the outcome on my facebook...a video from Animal House, the paddling scene with Kevin Bacon playing the role of the working class.

"Thank you sir, may I have another?"

Posted by: cheshirecat at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (6bNif)

975 Gonna be some long lines at Cabela's tomorrow.

Posted by: Chuck Pylon at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (2oSxi)

976 Well, there was one revolution...and there was a civil war...I've never believed that states shouldn't be able to secede.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (wgmUB)

977 "It will be fun watching all these gloating trolls trying to defend the next four years.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (1PE/J)"



What's fun about watching the same shit they've been doing for the past 4 years? Blame Bush, Media repeats, Electorate swallows. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Wasn't fun then, won't be fun for the next four fucking years.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (uD2fR)

978 Socialism is Here!

Its gonna be fun watching the idiot Democrats whine about it when they actually have to live it.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (uvNSk)

979 See, there's no conceivable way in reality that Democrats had that huge a turnout, it just makes no sense whatsoever. It just cannot have happened, so what's really going on?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:09 AM

Swing voters pulled for Barry in bigger than expected numbers. They might have said otherwise, but they pulled for mr. wonderful, regardless. Because apparently, he's wonderful.

Posted by: otho at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (yBF/9)

980 I can't believe everyone is giving Chris Christie so much responsibility for this. Why are republicans trying so desperately to tie Obama's victory to Christie's moves as Governor of NJ during a crazy fucking disaster. Not. One. Single. American changed their vote based on Chris Christie. Not one.

Posted by: Schnack at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (6MTTM)

981 MrCaniac at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (Zd/NW)

I think you have something there. You get to a point where you get pissed at the campaigning and just stop listening all together. So much mudslinging and negativity keeps people home. They don't know who to believe anymore, so why bother?

Posted by: Book at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (GYXSA)

982 When you think about it, you'll realize that this country has shown itself to be good and fucked for eight years.

2004: wartime GOP president. Pretty good economy. We win that one by the skin of our teeth... against an out-of-touch Massachusetts liberal. That election never should have been close.

2006: we get destroyed in the mid-terms. Sure, the country was angry at Bush, but they were angry at him for not wrapping up the wars that they once wanted.

2008: it was easy to deceive ourselves into thinking that this was a once-in-a-lifetime alignment of good fortune for the Democrats. But you know what? Obama wasn't anything special. He wasn't particularly smart or skilled as a politician. The media let him get away with murder, and the public lapped up his bullshit.

2012: After all of Obama's failures, he's returned to the White House convincingly. Not by a huge margin, but convincingly enough. If we can't beat him under these conditions with an inoffensive candidate, how are we ever going to win the White House again?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (8AF9+)

983 926 I'd take that challenge. I've been stoned once in the past eight years. That's gonna recieve an adjustment.

Yeah, what the fuck huh? We obviously need to handicap ourselves and get as stupid as the rest of the country.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (Qxdfp)

984 >>>The next person to bring up Akin as the reason gets a punch to their junk.

1, I brought it up in response to the caterwauling that Romney should have been harder right, then he would have won. Oh? He won easily in IN and MO and Mourdock and Akin lost. So why didn't they win by even larger margins?

2, 80% of the Obama radio ads I heard were about one thing: Abortion Rape, and how extreme Romney and Ryan were, and how Romney had not withdrawn his support of Mourdock.

Yes, 80%.

No, I do not believe they were just spending that money for shits and giggles.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (LCRYB)

985
DID I SAY....
FUCK YOU BARRY AND HOPE YOU CHOKE ON IRAN???

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (tKpj6)

986 I know the post mortem evaluations mean little to nothing but does anyone here think that Bin Laden being killed was what won the election for Obama. I thought once that happened it would be extremely tough for anyone to beat him.

Posted by: War69.com at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (ayPhb)

987 Shit. Obama won? Ima gone starta riot.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (F22l6)

988 685
Romney ran a stellar campaign. I blame 2 things for our loss: the dirty,
rotten, lying, traitorous MSM and the stupidity of the American people.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at November 06, 2012 11:57 PM (DoZD+)

Let's look on the bright side... With free birth control, followed by abortions when that fails, in a generation or so there won't be any libtards left... if there is still an America left.

Posted by: George W Beagle at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (JwW4z)

989 Michelle Malkin has lost it:

" ... we still live in the greatest country on the planet"

Posted by: Gerry at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (QK54y)

990 869 The "coalition" between fiscal conservatives and socons cannot survive any longer (I'm amazed it lasted this long), and isn't viable electorally at the national level, and won't be for anyone's lifetime, not with demographic trends.

The GOP is finished. And deservedly so.
-

The GOP deserves to be finished.

But it has in effect become the White party (that is the party that receives 90% of its support from Whites, though it does nothing for Whites as a share of the population), while the Democratic Party has become the anti-White Party. The Democratic vision of America leads to Detroit, and then gets worse and worse.

So which option do you like better? Struggle so White people can have a future? Or accept Whites going down as a share of the population and absolutely, every year till the end, due to continuing non-White mass immigration and compulsory integration and assimilation?

The second option is only OK if you are fine with genocide provided it happens to Whites.

So there has to be some kind of continuing struggle.

What the Republican Party deserves hasn't got a thing to do with it.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (4qa9e)

991 I swear if we were talking about this in person people would be on the floor around me for blaming social conservatism. For crying out loud, Romney ran and was a moderate on social issues, stop it with the "Socons cost us the election" crap, just get a grip.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (r4wIV)

992 Once Dead Elephants drop a MORAL position they have nothing else, 'cuase they can't out-commie the Dems.

Posted by: Your Inner Voice at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (C34KJ)

993 871
Apparently California passed the safe sex in porn law. I do not want to
hear one more fucking word about how the Left wants to stay out of the
bedroom.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Our only hope. Literally. at November 07, 2012 12:08 AM (Gk3SS)


I have incandescent light bulbs in my bedroom. The Left can kiss my ass (after their mouths are checked for diseases)

Posted by: schizoid at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (feRPT)

994 Romney doesn't need a political career... he has a life unlike obama...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (9+ccr)

995 Romney lost Ohio by 100,000 votes.

You want to tell me you couldn't find 100,000 women who voted against him based on the Rape Abortion ads running nonstop?


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (LCRYB)

996 If no one cared about Obama turning off the credit card check, who's going to care about fraudulent votes?

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (Y5I9o)

997 So help me God I am going to eat every last piece of Halloween candy in this house. Give my kids a preview of what's in store for them.

Posted by: Simpleton at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (za3QZ)

998
My angina!

Posted by: Is probably not covered under Obamacare at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (ZETiK)

999 ace, dude, a fucking hurricane didn't decide the election. You were wrong. I was wrong. We were all fucking wrong.

A hurricane in NJ didn't lose Romney FL man. Jesus.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (uD2fR)

1000 970 That Guy: Most of the country is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

_______________

I don't think that's true. The "socially liberal" folks are the ones who tell us that we have to pay for their birth control. How is that "fiscally conservative"?

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at November 07, 2012 12:20 AM (8AF9+)

1001 OK, Ace, explain how any Republican pol can get above 25% without Christians.

I'll expect an answer while Romney still leads 191-130..

Posted by: Gerry at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (QK54y)

1002 Let's get serious, the Obama campaign ran a really good campaign that realized what they needed to do, I mean shit we're winning the popular vote right now. But the media really carried Obama across the finish line. They've been letting him get away with murder. Tough to win a race when every time we make an argument their intention is to discredit us. Or they go with whatever argument Obama makes without any sort of skepticism.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (sCI7M)

1003 946 A new party will do nothing. Look at history, at Canada- bringing in a new party just splits votes for decades to come. The ONLY way to fix this is to reform the GOP from within. Period.


Posted by: Book at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (GYXSA)

Really?

Posted by: the Whig Party at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (lZBBB)

1004 Ladies and Gentlemen, let's get it back. We lost a major campaign, but the war goes on.
Let's get to it.



Posted by: Rosebud at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (toxig)

-----------------------------
Seriously? Clearly you don't understand the consequences of this loss. This loss means we lose the 5/4 majority on the Supreme court (obviously that hasn't been much help lately, but). It also means ObamaCare cannot and will not ever be repealed. Game over.
The best we can do is slow some of this shit down - and only a little. There is nothing left to fight over. American died tonight. Sorry, Mr. Franklin, I guess we can't keep it.

Posted by: Not an Artist at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (uRumV)

1005
How or WHY are there any business left in [California] is amazing
Posted by: Red Shirt






We're mostly down to laundromats and bring your own bottle purified water stores now....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (kdS6q)

1006 When you think about it, you'll realize that this country has shown itself to be good and fucked for eight years.

Eight years? This was the end of the line, this was it. We were barely toes on the edge of the cliff and going off balance. This is the end of the line for the grand experiment.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (r4wIV)

1007 Hey, for all you folks saying this is what we need to show the American people what liberalism is? We've had straight liberalism since 1964. Fiscal conservatism does NOT get you a $16 tril deficit. Conservatism does not get you a sea of illegal immigrants washing over the border. Conservatism does not get you a federal government that has never met a power it couldn't usurp.

Face it, Ronald Reagan did a lot of things, but he did nothing to take down the gigantic federal infrastructure created by Johnson and Carter. And George W. Bush did nothing but add to it.

Guys, we live in a country where the media defines conservatism as George W Bush, and by any straight measure, the man was a liberal democrat. He expanded entitlements, he expanded the federal government, he expanded the power of the executive. He ran the budget into the crapper. So anybody who's a "moderate" has to be to the LEFT of that. What is left of that? Outright socialism?

Until we conservatives are given a fair shake in the media, and until we unscrew ourselves from a platform of social issues that doesn't sell in the suburbs, we're going to lose every time. We must concentrate on the fiscal/role of government issues, or else we're going to lose this country for good, if it isn't gone already.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (LN5eJ)

1008 >>> "We were all over optimistic about what we expected."

True.

And that's understandable. It's natural. It's called "the optimism bias" and it's one of the most studied parts of psychology.

But please. Next time. When someone supports your guy, and damningly slags the other guy with detailed takedowns, but is less optimistic than you (I was still overly optimistic for the fourth time running), can you stop assuming he or she must be a Democrat?

Just because they aren't drinking cherry Kool-Aid and reciting philosophical concepts gleaned from "The Secret" back at you?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (SKX2R)

1009 So when is Romney going to concede and tell us we don't have to fear obama?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (9+ccr)

1010
Tipping Point. Everyone wondered when.

Now.

Plan accordingly.

Posted by: Derak at November 07, 2012 12:21 AM (lkjWK)

1011 How or WHY are there any business left in that state is amazing

Posted by: Red Shirt at November 07, 2012 12:16 AM (FIDMq)


Not for long.

Street-level democrats have a pathological hatred for the private sector, *even if they work in it*, in California.

They will slit their own throats for the sake of ideology.

And when it's all gone, they will scream and scream and scream because you didn't save them from burning down their own house after they threw you out.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (bxiXv)

1012 We've been here before people, read about what FDR did back in the great depression. He came into office in a bad economic downturn and made it worse. But he blamed it on the last guy and gave a ton of people hand outs.

The things FDR got away with are actually worse than a lot of what Obama has done so far. He actually had concentration camps set up for American Citizens.

We're not beaten and America is not over. We're headed toward a massive crisis the likes of which we've never seen and if we keep fighting we have a chance to pick up the pieces and show people the way afterward.

Remember that we haven't always been a center-right nation, before the Reagan Revolution we were center-left at best.

Posted by: Kronos at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (6EFOB)

1013 I bet many inner city legit votes went to Obama just to keep the jackals at bay. They were threatening riots, so they got their way. Obama will not be able to play golf, or have great parties, he will hate the next four years.

Posted by: madamex at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (+kvQd)

1014 Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:15 AM (SKX2R)


That's fine. Not contesting the results if the election. But your advice to beat the Democrats is to adot their policy positions, which if I wanted to do that, I would've flicking voted for them.

Posted by: Boone at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (tIyK2)

1015 "He got a lot of $$ from a book he didn't even write.He got things handed to him simply b/c of the color of his skin. At least Mitt earned his wealth.Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 07, 2012 12:10 AM (KL49F)"That is an absolute load of crap, he is simply a theif. Just like Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Hillary [just married the right guy]. When it comes to grift at the political level, I can't evenjust blame the Democrats. This isn't aboutcolor, it's about our wannaberulers attempting to set usagainst eachother and it has to stop. Books allow for legal bribes, you buy his booksand he makes sure you get a nice fat contract. If we lose, then suck it up regroup and take the senate!Our battle cries shall consist of Resist we much! Honey Badgers don't give a shit!and "Dammit Scotty I Need Those Torpedos".

Posted by: Africanus at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (Tcf77)

1016 • $6 trillion in new national debt under Obama…after he promised to decrease the deficit.
• Obamacare — A massive and incredibly convoluted bill which exponentially increases the federal government’s control over our personal lives…which neither Obama nor a single Democrat even read before passing, and which will likely bankrupt the nation.
• Billions of taxpayer dollars gambled on “green” companies like Solyndra, NextEra, Light Squared, Ener1, Solar Trust and many others — all of which went bankrupt.
• An intentional refusal to enforce federal immigration laws.
• Unemployment at or above 8% for almost his entire term in office (which was actually closer to 15% actual unemployment).
• Operation Fast & Furious — a government-sponsored illegal gun-running scheme designed to purposely go awry so as to induce public outcry for gun control.
• Spent 20 years listening to a racist anti-American pastor (Rev. Jeremiah Wright), whom Obama desribed as a mentor. On March 18, 2008, Obama gave a speech in which he said “I could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than I could disown my own grandmother” and “[Wright's church, Trinity United] embodies the black community in its entirety.” Now Obama tries to pretend that Jeremiah Wright doesn’t exist, and that his extremist anti-white philosophy didn’t influence Obama’s worldview.
• Increased the percentage of Americans dependent on food stamps to unprecedented levels (now over 15% of the nation’s population).
• Before he entered politics, Obama worked as a lawyer suing banks in landmark cases, forcing them to give home loans to unqualified minority borrowers — a practice now understood as one of the primary initial causes of the eventual housing bubble and market collapse.
• Handed out over 1,200 waivers to politically connected donors exempting them from the onerous requirements of Obamacare.
• Greatly expanding the number of unaccountable “czars,” which essentially amounts to unilaterally adding new federal departments with no congressional oversight — leading to a true “bureaucracy” in the original sense (rule by unelected bureaucrats).
• Using taxpayer dollars to bail out the private pension funds of autoworkers’ unions at GM & Chrysler.
• Illegally ending the welfare-to-work requirements passed by Congress.
• Doling out $800 billion in stimulus cash for “shovel-ready” jobs that didn’t exist — the money just evaporated with no measurable economic benefit.
• Alienating and isolating Israel, our strongest ally in the Middle East.
• Apologizing to Islamists and terrorists for offending them.
• Under Obama’s watch, for the first time in history America’s credit rating was downgraded, due to his poor economic policies.
• Stopped American oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, allowing other nations with worse environmental records to drill instead — thereby managing to both weaken our economy and damage the environment simultaneously.
• Proposed in 2008 to intentionally bankrupt the coal industry — and now lies to voters and workers in coal-producing regions about his true intent.
• Pretends to be concerned about skyrocketing energy prices, when in fact he vowed to increase them on purpose (so as to make alternative energy schemes more competitive.)
• In a primary debate against Hillary Clinton in 2008, Obama said he would never force people to buy health insurance, since those without it couldn’t afford to buy it. Less than two years later, he rammed through Obamacare, which does indeed force people to buy health insurance.
• During the 2008 campaign, Obama repeatedly promised that if he was elected “No family making less than $250,000 will see any form of tax increase.” This promise was broken over and over again once he was elected.
• In 2008 Obama vowed if elected to increase security along the U.S.-Mexican border — and then in 2010 stopped construction of a “virtual fence” on the border and re-routed money earmarked for border security to other projects.
• Cash for Clunkers, which doled out taxpayer money to anyone who wanted to replace their old cars, but which mostly only ended up subsidizing the puchase of foreign-made cars by people who could have afforded them on their own anyway; meanwhile, the traded-in cars were all destroyed, creating a shortage and thereby increasing the cost of used cars, hurting the pocketbooks of poor people.
• Violated the U.S. Constitution by authorizing assassinations and drone strikes to kill American citizens abroad — without due process.
• Was caught on a “hot mike” promising the President of Russia that he would cave in to their demands for a weaker missile shield — after he was re-elected and no longer had to keep up the pretense that he sought to defend America.
• Soon after taking office, Obama rescinded the “Mexico City Policy,” which previously had banned NGOs which are supported by American taxpayer funds from using those funds to perform abortions in foreign countries.
• Appointed Van Jones, a former avowed communist who supported a “9/11 Truth” petition, to be “Green Jobs Czar.”
• Appointed Anita Dunn, who said Chairman Mao was her “favorite philosopher,” to be White House Communications Director.
• Appointed John Holdren, who perviously entertained the notion of forced mass sterilzation to stop overpopulation, to be Science Czar.
• Appointed Steven Chu, who openly advocated an artificial increase in gasoline prices to $10/gallon (and similar increases in other energy prices) to be Secretary of Energy.
• Appointed Kevin Jennings, who led a group that promoted X-rated “sex-positive” textbooks for 13-year-olds, instructed teenagers at a conference how to perform “fisting” (anal penetration by fists), who refused to report instances of statutory rape, and who expressed admiration for a member of NAMBLA, to be America’s “Safe School’s Czar.”
• When states voted to enforce the federal immigration laws which the federal government refused to enforced, Obama sued to stop them.
• Blocked continued construction of the Keystone Pipeline, thereby intentionally reducing energy resources for the US and forcing Canada to sell more of its oil to China.
• Repeatedly changed his position on gay marriage over the years, depending on what was politically expedient at the moment and which intended audience he was addressing.
• Before he was president, Obama staunchly opposed raising the national debt limit — but once elected, he insisted that it be raised.
• When giving a 2009 speech in France that he hoped and assumed Americans would never hear, he described the United States as “arrogant” and “dismissive.”
• When states tied to stop election fraud with voter ID laws, Obama sued to prevent them from doing so.
• Instructed Attorney General Eric Holder to stonewall any investigation into the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panthers.
• Promised in 2008 that once elected he would officially recognize the Armenian Genocide; but to this date he has still failed to do so, caving in to threats and pressure from Turkey.
• Vowed to end the influence of lobbyists in Washington, but under Obama’s watch their influence has only increased.
• When he was first running for President, Obama promised, “I will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.” Needless to say, he has broken that promise with almost every bill he has signed since.
• Aided and abetted the “Arab Spring” which deposed existing secular governments across North Africa, leading to a regional power vacuum which was filled by Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, and other hardline Islamists.
• Refused to provide assistance or support the the earlier secular Iranian democracy uprising, allowing them to be crushed by the Islamic fundamentalist Iranian regime.
• In his first months in office, Obama bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia, the president of China, the Emperor of Japan, and President of Mexico, among others.
• Ordered NASA to make one of its top priorities not space exploration or scientific research but “Muslim outreach.”
• Used Obamacare as a pretext to greatly increase the size and power of the IRS (which was given 16,000 new agents and additional mandates to penalize taxpayers for noncompliance).
• Used the IRS to harass conservative businesses.
• In the GM bailout, he illegally shortchanged investors who according to bankruptcy laws were first in line to be recompensed; instead, he gave their share to the unions.
• Shut down oil drilling in the US, but then turned around and lent $2 billion to Brazil to support their government-controlled oil-drilling effort — and then promised the US would become one of Brazil’s biggest oil customers.
• Sued Boeing in an effort to control where businesses could locate, kowtow to the unions, and block the creation of 1,000 jobs in South Carolina, a right-to-work (i.e. no forced unionization) state.
• Adopted a longstanding Socialist political slogan, “Forward!”, as his 2012 campaign motto.
• Sent insulting form letters to the familes of dead SEALs.
• Neither disavowed nor distanced himself from anti-Romney campaign ads which threatened or implied vilence against Republicans.
• Shortly after the recent eruption of anti-American violence in North Africa, Obama went to Las Vegas to do his debate preparation in a hotel…with a romanticized North Africa theme.
• Said in an interview that the Muslim call to prayer was “the most beautiful sound in the world.”
• Union boss and far-left activist Andy Stern has visitied Obama in the White House at least 53 times, at last count — greater access than any other private citizen.
• Hosted at the White House many Islamist members of groups associated with Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc.
• Sponsored performances by and attended fundraisers with radical rappers like Michael Franti and Common, both of whose lyrics have in some cases been anti-police, anti-white, and anti-America.
• Hired Timothy Geithner, who is documented as cheating on his own personal taxes, to be Secretary of the Treasury.
• Told Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher that it was good to “spread the wealth around.”
• Told small business owners nationwide in a 2012 speech that “you didn’t build that” — implying that they should not claim credit for their own success, since taxpayers (i.e. themselves and other business owners) had funded the national infrastructure.
• Insulted the British people by rudely returning to them a bust of Churchill which previously had been a ceremonial gift on display at the White House; when later confronted on this inexplicable action, he lied about it.
• Canceled plans to complete a missile defense shield in Poland, a move which was highly praised by Russia and Iran — the very nations whose missile threats would have been neutralized if the shield had been completed.
• By loudly publicizing (for personal political gain) the identity of exact SEAL teams who had killed Osama bin Laden, Obama made them a target for reprisals by Islamists; a short time later 22 SEALS were shot down and killed in Afghanistan, their worst loss of life ever.
• Established an extra-Constitutional top secret “kill list” of people (including Americans) Obama claims the right to kill on sight, and then bragged about it publicly.
• Established the “Truth Team” program which encouraged citizens to report to the government any friends or relatives they hear repeating “lies” about Obama.
• Attack Watch!
• Twisted the arms of defense contractors to not issue layoff notices in early November, so as to avoid causing bad news for Obama right before the election — even though federal law (the “WARN Act”) requires such notices.
• After the attacks on American interests in North Africa on September 11, 2012, Obama gave a speech to the U.N. and declared “The future must not belong to those who slander The Prophet of Islam” — transferring the blame from the attackers onto the makers of a film trailer that supposedly “offended” the Islamists.
• Repeatedly snubbed and got into public tiffs with Benjamin Netanyahu, who as the leader of Israel is supposed to be Obama’s closest colleague in international affairs.
• On May 19, 2011, Obama told Israel they must return to the 1967 borders as a pre-condition for continuing talks with the Palestinians — even though the status of the borders was the main issue the talks were supposed to address.
• Encouraged politically biased hiring practices in the Justice Department.
• Attempted to force returning veterans to pay huge increases for their health coverage…as a way to generate more funding for his Obamacare provisions.
• In June of 2011, he annointed his own underage daughters as “senior staff members” so that their vacation to Africa would be paid for with taxpayer money.
• Interviews with high school classmates revealed that Obama was a heavy and frequent user of marijuana in his teenage years (not to mention his self-admitted cocaine use in college).
• Played over 100 rounds of golf during his first three years in office, meaning that he was on the links close to 10% of the days he has been president.
• Voted to allow partial-birth abortions not just once but three times in a row as an Illinois state senator.
• The pastor whom Obama selected to give the national benediction at his 2009 inauguration recently declared that “all white people are going to Hell.”


Alright! This is the guy for us!

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (+paCV)

1017
Lost of things hurt, but the most personal for me is that our kids got to see the juxtaposition of man who worked hard all his life even though he'd been born to privilege. He earned his own way in life, became a model citizen, a man who served his God, his wife, his family, his community, his friends, gave of himself and wouldn't talk about it, achieved business success (after all, we were taught in school we could achieve anything if we tried and we were supposed to try, success was GOOD, not something that was to be criticized), served a fiscally successful term as a governor, working with the other side (notice that not a single democrat from MA legistlature ever made an ad against him or spoke out against him), and compare him to a man who showed his true colors when he wasn't receiving adulation, was petty and small and vindictive....all this our kids see, and the one who is small and petty is the winner their parents chose.

Now, that is not good modeling for your children.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (wgmUB)

1018
Easy to run a good campaign when the opposition runs so many bad candidates....

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (GJUgF)

1019 Don't even want to get going on Akin. Romney losing? Mad as hell, but America makes its choices and we're going to have to deal with the effects. Akin just decided to shoot himself in the foot, which is one thing, but then decided he needed to stick it out when a ham sandwich gets at least a recount with Claire.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (UvR6d)

1020 Let's get serious, the Obama campaign ran a really good campaign that realized what they needed to do

Exactly what campaign was that? What did he run on, how did he convince anyone to vote for him? All he did was run a series of bizarre attacks on Romney from giving women cancer to women dressed in vaginas. None of it made sense.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (r4wIV)

1021 So a bunch of people in this thread have already said we've got to change the party so that it's socially liberal/libertarian- meaning pro- abortion rights- because Akin and Mourdock both stepped in it?
Well, here's the thing about that. I've given thousands of dollars to Republican candidates over the years, made calls, knocked on doors...and there are plenty of people in my church and in churches across America who have done the same. And we are not going to come out and vote for GOP candidates that agree with the Dem party line on killing babies. You want to find a new coalition partner, best of luck to you, and I hope you miss the work and money we poured into the party.

Meanwhile Obama got 70% of the Hispanic vote, a rapidly growing demographic that helped take California away from us and is going to make Texas a swing state in a few years, and I don't see anyone here shouting for candidates with an immigration policy that's more like the other side's.

You want candidates that talk smarter about abortion, I agree. Maybe pro-life senatorial candidates should have to go through some sort of boot camp. You want candidates that only argue for incremental changes, that's fine, I'll take the long view.

Posted by: KingCranium at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (JYczy)

1022 "But please. Next time. When someone supports your guy, and damningly slags the other guy with detailed takedowns, but is less optimistic than you (I was still overly optimistic for the fourth time running), can you stop assuming he or she must be a Democrat?"

oh...you must be new here.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (79EF9)

1023 Romney was the right man. Name one other candidate on the GOP debate stage that would have outperformed Romney tonight. It's not a candidate problem, it's bigger than that. Romney had to fight the media at every step. Everything he did was a gaffe and nothingnobama did got mentioned. Not even when 4 got killed in Benghazi. Whomever the gop would have nominated would have been a religious warrior waging the war on women, the war on gays, etc. whomever the GOP nominated would have been accused of being for the rich. They are all rich. They are all white. They are all talking about taking away your Obamaphone. I'm not putting this on Mitt. I'm thankful for mitts service.

Posted by: California red at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (DXTKe)

1024 We wouldn't talk Akin if we didn't just get War on Women'd in such a catastrophic fashion that we lost the economically impossible-to-lose election.

>> Right back at ya. I'll not support weirdoes and mutants anymore.

10-4 chief.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (fXInK)

1025
DID I SAY>>>>
FUCK YOU BARRY,
BECAUSE AMERICANS DIED ON YOUR WATCH AND YOU WENT TO VEGAS?
FUCK YOU BARRY!!!

FUCK YOU BARRY!!!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (tKpj6)

1026 Oh Stop It...

The F'n thing was obviously rigged as many predicted it would be in 2008.

We didn't just get an initiation to Socialism in 2008...we lost our Freedom...unfortunately we had to wait fours years to verify.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (uvNSk)

1027 Dems ran AGAINST Socons. Did no one watch their ads?

Keep trying to tell people what to do in the bedroom, and you can keep losing elections. Dems will continue to punish the GOP on social issues as long as the GOP wants to push them.

And right now, the GOP is pushing them, even if Mitt (wisely) didn't. It has to stop if the GOP want to be relevant again in national politics.

Socon issues make the GOP look stupid to a plurality of the country, and demographics are only making that plurality larger over time.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (LmEvg)

1028 The right lesson is that socon issues are a losing strategy nationally. Period. The younger generation and the media want nothing to do with it, and care more about those issues than fiscal issues.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (LmEvg)

Too bad we nominated Romney, a crazy social con who wants to take our tampons away.

We should have nominated a Massachusetts Moderate instead!

Posted by: concerned to the extreme moderation at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (udTVX)

1029 1024
Romney was the right man. Name one other candidate on the GOP debate
stage that would have outperformed Romney tonight. It's not a candidate
problem, it's bigger than that. Romney had to fight the media at every
step. Everything he did was a gaffe and nothingnobama did got mentioned.
Not even when 4 got killed in Benghazi. Whomever the gop would have
nominated would have been a religious warrior waging the war on women,
the war on gays, etc. whomever the GOP nominated would have been accused
of being for the rich. They are all rich. They are all white. They
are all talking about taking away your Obamaphone. I'm not putting this
on Mitt. I'm thankful for mitts service.

Posted by: California red at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM (DXTKe)
I agree... the MSM decided this election...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (9+ccr)

1030
A new party will do nothing. Look at history, at Canada- bringing in a new party just splits votes for decades to come.
Posted by: Book





No shit? Really?

Posted by: Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (kdS6q)

1031 Michelle O is on Expedia right now, planning her next 12 vacations.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (F22l6)

1032 964 How or WHY are there any business left in that state is amazing.

Because I'm a CA native, and so's the wife. I started my first business here, and own a modest amount of investment real estate. I've mostly stayed because of my Mother - she's in her mid eighties.

But seriously, Texas is looking really, really good. I will miss the weather and swore I'd never let the freaks chase me from my state. It did used to be Red once upon a time. And I keep hoping they'll figure out they're fucking themselves. But after tonight, I'm not so sure.

I just wonder what everybody is going to do when there really is no more money.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (Qxdfp)

1033 Seriously, where do we go from this? 4-5 Obama appointees on the highest Court. ObamaCare on the books for good. Yeah, we may be able to stop the legislative machine with the House, but not the regulatory machine. Mandatory spending is already larger than our entire revenue. QE 1 and 2 and 3 isn't working but will be continued.

Going Galt means starving. Rest of the world is in late stage terminal socialist decline.

Where now?

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (Tlix5)

1034
Dayborther, so true, but you see, the media never made a big deal of any of this....they pushed the American success story of the middle class black kid who went to Harvard and made it big...Americans like fantasy land, we all know that.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (wgmUB)

1035 Most tweeted political event ever! Don't you haters feel better now?

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (GJUgF)

1036 I'm guessing gun sales will pick up.

Posted by: elprez at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (4QO27)

1037 I feel like one of King Harold Godwinson's huscarls as the arrows fall about my ears while the Norman knights come over the summit of Senlac Hill one last time....

92% precincts in OH have reported in, Obummer still leading by 40,000 votes even. Obummer is at 49.78 % CPT Charles says it is definitely fraud, and I agree with him.. I expect Romney to start the lawfare here and in other states tomorrow.



Posted by: exdem13 at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (1GunI)

1038 Maybe the country doesn't like socon positions, but Romney didn't run as a socon, he ran as a fiscon. Which is just as hard to sell to a nation of fiscal illiterates.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (yJYwC)

1039 Antonin Scalia is very unhappy tonight. Very.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (wgmUB)

1040 Then close up home business, quit my day job and sign up for every fucking government program for free stuff that exists.


Posted by: Not an Artist at November 07, 2012 12:13 AM


Not a bad idea really.

Posted by: Berserker at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (FMbng)

1041 988 Let's look on the bright side... With free birth control, followed by abortions when that fails, in a generation or so there won't be any libtards left... if there is still an America left.
-

Mass immigration, remember?

Open borders mean a perpetual supply of "anti-racists" who want free stuff from Whitey and will vote for anti-White policies and politicians for that reason.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (4qa9e)

1042 We're not beaten and America is not over.

If Obama wins, yes we are, and yes it is. FDR did incredible damage to the nation, and every leftist in office after him piled it on. This was it, this was the last chance, and a barely possible chance it was, a dimmest hope of turning things around. This was our last crappy hope.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (r4wIV)

1043 >>>OK, Ace, explain how any Republican pol can get above 25% without Christians.

do all christians oppose abortion in the case of rape?


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (LCRYB)

1044 Too bad we nominated Romney, a crazy social con who wants to take our tampons away.



We should have nominated a Massachusetts Moderate instead!
- - - - - -
Might have got him across the line, but we'll never know. How are our newly-minted R-MO, R-IN senators doing?

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (fXInK)

1045
Fear and ugliness and negativity for Obama won his re-election.

Take a good look at this, and tell me what his plan is for his second term. Really.

He will govern as he has always governed, in a sloppy and careless way. It makes you wonder how much more the Mass Bullshit Media can cover for him

And watching the ballwashers on Fox is a hoot. They have danced all around the talking points about why Obama won and Romney lost. It's Hispanics! It's minorities! It's Women's Rights!

No, it's is just how dumb a good part of the electorate actually is.

OMG! Romney got out-tweeted by the Obama campaing. Can it get any dumber?

There is no "truth" out there. There is only the propaganda that the chattering idiots on the TV decide to talk about.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (Md8Uo)

1046 1017

Lost of things hurt, but the most personal for me is that our kids
got to see the juxtaposition of man who worked hard all his life even
though he'd been born to privilege. He earned his own way in life,
became a model citizen, a man who served his God, his wife, his family,
his community, his friends, gave of himself and wouldn't talk about it,
achieved business success (after all, we were taught in school we could
achieve anything if we tried and we were supposed to try, success was
GOOD, not something that was to be criticized), served a fiscally
successful term as a governor, working with the other side (notice that
not a single democrat from MA legistlature ever made an ad against him
or spoke out against him), and compare him to a man who showed his true
colors when he wasn't receiving adulation, was petty and small and
vindictive....all this our kids see, and the one who is small and petty
is the winner their parents chose.

Now, that is not good modeling for your children.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:22 AM (wgmUB)

No, but it mirrors the crap they probably get in school (unless they are home-schooled or in a conservative private school).

Posted by: George W Beagle at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (JwW4z)

1047 My ancestors and I keep ending up on the wrong side of history. We seceeded 150 years ago, and I guess we'll have to again.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (4Mv1T)

1048
You know, why do we even need a Supreme Court if it has progressives who believe that the document can simply be changed by them any old time w/out using the amendment process.

Why even have a court if the Constitution is changeable, if the words mean nothing? Why waste money on them and their clerks?

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (wgmUB)

1049 I'm guessing gun sales will pick up.

Posted by: elprez at November 07, 2012 12:24 AM (4QO27)

they've been going up damn near every year for the longest time now

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (tw6Ar)

1050 The right lesson is that socon issues are a losing strategy nationally.>>

Why exactly? Because the MFM push them to the front knowing that no single congressman/senator can not enact any socon agenda but scare the electorate to believe they can that we have a congress of over 400 and a senate of plus 100. this crap sells because our public schools stopped teaching how our govt works to drive this belief to win elections.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (cLAkX)

1051 No matter how liberal, moderate and unabashedly anti social conservativism the Republican party goes, so-cons shall always be blamed for Republican party losses.

Posted by: Eleventh Commandment of the RINO at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (udTVX)

1052 Dems ran AGAINST Socons. Did no one watch their ads?

And ROMNEY ISN'T ONE. They ran against a myth they created. It wouldn't matter if you ran freaking John Holmes, they would have said all the same crap.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:26 AM (r4wIV)

1053 Caddell is laying it out. GOP is self screwed...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (GJUgF)

1054 And right on cue, the NE Rinos start blaming the dastardly "true conservatives". Gee, Ace. I at least thought you would wait until tommorrow to start blaming those WHO ACTUALLY TURNED OUT FOR YOUR GUY.....but, of course, we forced Romney too far to the right because we bellieve in God and not killing babies.
Personally, I don;t rmember Romney doing jack shit to kow-tow to me.....only hatred of Obama got me (and many I know) out.
I really am beginning to wonder if it wouldn't be better to be a part of a "small regional party". At least then I'll know who my enemies are.

Posted by: FederalismIsThePoint at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (DWz4h)

1055 Good night rons. We'll be OK.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (3Y7RV)

1056
You know, even if the election had occurred a week after the first debate, I am not sure the blue areas of the map would have turned the least pink. Nope. They're blue and will stay blue.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (wgmUB)

1057 Romney lost Ohio by 100,000 votes.

You want to tell me you couldn't find 100,000 women who voted against him based on the Rape Abortion ads running nonstop?


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:19 AM (LCRYB)

These women you cite vote against candidates who want ANY restriction on Abortion.

We are both pissed right now, but Romney defeated Santorum Ace.

You'll look at the data tomorrow and you'll see that socons went to the polls for Romney just as much as you did.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (BBlzg)

1058 About those who voted for Obama, I will never understand what they voted *for* this time around. What do they think he's going to do to improve the economy, unemployment, gas prices, the housing market, etc? He has done nothing positive in the past 4 years.

No blaming tonight's results on "us" or "the American people" or Romney or the GOP or Bush or a hurricane or even Christie or Akin. People who VOTED FOR OBAMA are to blame. They are responsible for allowing him power, and OBAMA is responsible for the misery he forces upon us.

I'm going to have to pray hard to forgive them all, over and over as many times as it takes, because if I don't I'm afraid of what being full of anger and hate will do to me. I don't want to be a bitter, angry woman. Heh, I suppose going through a divorce was useful after all.

Night all. I'm going to try to remember to count my blessings.

Posted by: Mayday at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (F3s39)

1059 Don't go nuts. It took pure racial solidarity on the left to build a winning Obama coalition. He can't run again. And white Dems won't automatically give their nomination to any minority.

We need more than 60% of the white vote to win. And a larger percentage of the married vote. We already win both, we just need more. It's doable.

Posted by: CJ at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (9G+G5)

1060 1003
946

Yes, REALLY. Tell me, when was that Whig party in power? How long did it take for a new party to take solid hold? And in what century, under what media conditions?

Now, again, look at RECENT history. How have third parties effected turnout and votes lately? How did Gary Freaking Johnson effect THIS election?

You want change? Changing the name of the label your voting under isn't going to fix any problems. Reform the GOP. Resurrect our grassroots.

And for fuck's sake, let's TAKE ON THIS FREAKING DEMOCRAT RUN MEDIA.

Posted by: Book at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (GYXSA)

1061 I don't know if I've said this on this blog or another yet, but if tomorrow every auto worker who voted for Barry were laid off, I'd say a cheer.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (wgmUB)

1062 The Supreme Court is the biggest issue in my view. Thomas, Scalia, Alito and Kennedy ain't gonna live forever. Ginsburg will probably retire tomorrow.The GOP ain't gonna filibuster anyone to the right of Stalin.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (yJYwC)

1063 > How or WHY are there any business left in [California] is amazing

You do realize that California's economy is larger than Australia's, right?

CA native here: adding a few percent to my taxes has zero effect on my life. Sorry, it just doesn't. Grover Norquist is an infant.

CA is an incredible place to run a tech company, easily the best in the world, and the US. And they make a shit ton of money, too.

And it's *because* of the laws here, especially our (very liberal) laws regarding employment mobility – anyone can leave their employer and start a business that directly competes with it. That's the entire basis of Silicon Valley's growth engine.

CA has a killer economy, and more dollars are taken from it and redistributed to Red states than it receives.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (LmEvg)

1064 And right on cue, the NE Rinos start blaming the
dastardly "true conservatives".


Posted by: FederalismIsThePoint at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM (DWz4h)

"true cons" have been getting blame for longer than tonight

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (tw6Ar)

1065 $9.00 a gallon gas. Ya-hoo!

(oh, too soon?)

Posted by: Stephen Chu at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (cKfPM)

1066 I'm not blaming "Christians." I am saying that there are some people who want to announce PLAINLY unpalatable ideas and run on them.

I don't need that much honesty in a politician.

I know people think we get some kind of Boner Points for having the guts to say what we believe. We don't.

Right now not only is abortion in cases of rape permitted, so is EVERY OTHER kind of abortion. Including third term.

It seems very strange to me that we would fetishize THIS belief whereas the much EASIER things have not yet been done.

It's like some pro-life people are taking the very steps necessary to ENSURE a permanent pro-choice majority.

Supreme Court justices, anyone...?

You are not going to convince people that a RAPED woman cannot be given emergency PLan B contraceptive post-rape-- which would keep an embryo, if any, from implanting, in the first 24 hours of conception, if it happened at all -- when you haven't FIRST convinced them to at least outlaw 3rd trimester abortions.

Whatever. We're going to have a lot of recriminations.

But I watched TV and listened to the radio. This was on there all. the damned. time. Seriously, 80% of Democrat radio ads were about this.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:29 AM (LCRYB)

1067 So-cons don't lose elections - stepping on your dick while pandering to so-cons (Akin, Mourdock) lose elections...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:29 AM (GJUgF)

1068 Most of the country is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Right
now, each party is taking one half of that. A party that went after
both would win.

_______________________________

That might make sense if you propose, say, that the Rs just jettison the Pro-Life wing. We're not arguing over whether abortion should be legal anymore - they're making the issue about the Government paying for the abortions. How do you split that difference?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 07, 2012 12:29 AM (Nfpnr)

1069 I'm guessing gun sales will pick up.>>

I can only effectively shoot one at a time so I'm more than good. And Clinton drove my ammo stockpile beyond what I will survive so what the hell.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 07, 2012 12:29 AM (cLAkX)

1070 ...Rove may dispute it, but the much too nice ROmney wouldn't want to put the country through a fight... he'll conceded i bet... ugh...

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at November 07, 2012 12:29 AM (2/oBD)

1071 "Socon issues make the GOP look stupid to a plurality of the country, and demographics are only making that plurality larger over time."

at least the hard-line litmus-test social conservatism. someone mentioned that a campaign on the third trimester would be a good idea. i know liberals want to put graphic health warnings on cigarettes...sounds like a workable legislative trade-off, to me.

"rape is in god's plan" is not what america wants to here. it's not what red indiana wanted to hear, much less america.

boys marrying boys will not destroy the country. the american people are sick of waging such a bitter war over such a nothing issue that doesn't affect anyone's life.

and finally, guess what? those immigrants are here to stay. they will never be rounded up and sent back home. and guess what? they dislike abortion, too. they like strong family values, too. they enjoy protecting religious freedoms, too.

just not when the party's line in the sand is "you gotta have a heart".

Posted by: jimi ray at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (79EF9)

1072 >>> The GOP deserves to be finished.

Goddamnit.

The GOP stands for the things that are right in this world and IT deserves to be finished?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (SKX2R)

1073 970
It's not that they *don't* care about fiscal issues, but the shit
socons are pushing is an immediate "hell no", no matter what other good
things come along with it.



Most of the country is fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
Right now, each party is taking one half of that. A party that went
after both would win.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:17 AM (LmEvg)
Don't buy it. Social liberalism begets fiscal liberalism. We've gone from debating whether abortion should be legal to whether government not paying for it is the same thing as denying access to it (and apparently losing that argument). The country is not fiscally conservative any longer. They have no interest in any serious discussion of dealing with social security, medicare, etc. They "oppose" Obamacare, but reelect the guy responsible for it. Sorry. If anything, I would argue this country is more socially conservative than fiscally conservative. The Republican party might survive as a more economically populist socially conservative party (which I don't want), but it's not going to survive as a more libertarian one.

Posted by: Mullaney at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (s8XaI)

1074 For the record, the Libertarian Party candidate in Ohio is holding 47,000 votes, which has been more or less the margin between Romney and Obummer. To all you Libertarians out there: fuck you. Fuck you and the legal pot-smoking horse that you rode in on. The curse of Cromwell be upon you. I'd curse you like the Prophets of old, but frankly, my maladictions will pale compared to what the first Marxist President is going to inflict on you for 4 more years.


Posted by: exdem13 at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (1GunI)

1075 > And ROMNEY ISN'T ONE. They ran against a myth they created. It wouldn't matter if you ran freaking John Holmes, they would have said all the same crap.

Doesn't matter that Mitt isn't, the GOP is. Until the GOP drops socons, it'll have it hung around it's neck Every. Single. Time.

And they'll lose (nationally) Every. Single. Time.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:30 AM (LmEvg)

1076 >>The Supreme Court is the biggest issue in my view

No, its really not.

This country has always been defended by citizen warriors who defended the idea of America. They often went into battle with an almost religious fervor for that idea.

That idea is gone.

If you think gay marriage or card check are our biggest fears, think again.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (TMB3S)

1077
The GOP was self-screwing? Imagine that!

Who would have thought? As Caddell is saying, there is no clear intellectual underpining to the Republican message. A significant number of people agree with what Romney believes, but they were persuaded by dumbness

dumbness and tweets. What will they say about us in the history books? Can it be any more ridiculous?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (Md8Uo)

1078 1066

Not saying you're not right Ace, but Carville on CNN just echoed your post almost exactly

Posted by: The Q at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (w4fEE)

1079 We just need pro-life candidates that know how to discuss the issue without sounding like a goddamned idiot. And we do have plenty of those candidates. We just need every single high level candidate to pass that simple test.

This doesn't need to be a so-con vs. fiscal conservative thing. Just a simple test - if that's a big issue to you as a candidate, brush up on how to talk about it without starting a national shitstorm.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (UvR6d)

1080 Let's face it, America generally gives a president two terms in office. It's tough to beat an incumbent and that's just the way it goes. Obama will get zero legislation passed and hopefully in 2014 we can take the Senate. Unfortunately, it will be impossible to stop Obamacare now and the economy will plunge off the cliff or just bump along like Japan. Ugh. This is brutal.

As far as Romney is concerned, he was the best candidate we could field and he lost narrowly. He ran a good campaign but the GOTV for the dems was just as powerful in 2008. Now we must fine some new blood for 2016. It would also help if we don't put up total shitheads for Senate. Jesus!

Posted by: Witchfinder at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (s/PhC)

1081 I'm going to have to pray hard to forgive them all,
over and over as many times as it takes, because if I don't I'm afraid
of what being full of anger and hate will do to me.



Posted by: Mayday at November 07, 2012 12:27 AM


You're a better person than me. Personally I hope they die with their intestines hanging out their ass.

Posted by: Berserker at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (FMbng)

1082 Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:18 AM (LCRYB)

I don't think ANYONE is saying he should have run on abortion and rape.

I don't think there's a whole lot he could have done much better. His debate performances were good (I don't think his first one was as great as others do, I just think Obama was terrible in that one), he ran a tight campaign... maybe he could have hit harder on Benghazi, that's a tough call.

His big problem was that he is not in his heart a fiscal conservative who believes in small government and low taxes as a moral imperative, not as talking points that can change based on his electorate.

Posted by: Timin203 at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (azmhu)

1083 Might have got him across the line, but we'll never know. How are our newly-minted R-MO, R-IN senators doing?
Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 07, 2012 12:25 AM (fXInK)

My thought was: might have got them across the line, but we'll never know.

After all, Romney lost OH, FL and CO. There were no Crazy so-cons for Senate in OH, FL and CO. So the logical idea is that Romney dragged R-MO and R-IN down. Alas, you are not logical. You're just a fucking RINO scum.

Posted by: RINOSAURUS at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (udTVX)

1084 >>>And ROMNEY ISN'T ONE.

Yes he is. he's very pro-life, actually. He kind of excommunicated a woman in his parish for getting an abortion.

I'm not saying that's bad but stop saying he's not pro-life. He is.

yes, he said he was pro-choice in MA. He lied. He sought the advice of his church which told him that if he was running in a state in which abortion rights were guaranteed anyway, he could claim to support the status quo.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:31 AM (LCRYB)

1085 @1024 California red--

IA with you. Of the people who ran, Mitt was hands down the best candidate, as far as I'm concerned. I believed he was in 2008 too.

I don't blame him or Ryan. They are good men, even though I don't agree with every single thing either of them have done in the past, etc. They fought a good campaign.

Just too hard to overcome the cult of personality factor with Obummer and the media's obsession with him. So sad and depressing.

Posted by: VAgirl at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (U9x6W)

1086 Fox website has up a pretty good article of the five things the media did to tip the scales to Barry. It's fair and correct. I just don't think you can win against that. Ever, unless you put up a cult of personality candidate, and I don't want that any more than I want empty Barry.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (wgmUB)

1087 Yep, libertarians sure made a fucking mess of this election, didn't they?

Posted by: Marybeth at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (fkaOH)

1088
Socon issues make the GOP look stupid to a plurality of the country,
and demographics are only making that plurality larger over time.

______________________________

Really? Mexicans and Salvadorans are really into abortion and the gay marriage?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (Nfpnr)

1089 >>> So help me God I am going to eat every last piece of Halloween candy in this house. Give my kids a preview of what's in store for them.

I ate an 85% cocoa chocolate bar instead of 90%, for an extra 2 grams of carbs.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (SKX2R)

1090 Let's do payback to Christie.

Posted by: gayle in ca at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (wgmUB)

1091 lulz Jen Rubin blaming conservatives for making her crush lose the election

Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (tw6Ar)

1092 @1059

Are Fucking Crazy?

Do have idea what this country is going to look like in 4 years? Putting a Republican in at that point is like pissing in a Lake and measuring the Water Level Rise.

Collapse/Bankruptcy is the only way out...It's the only your kids will have a future even remotely similar to their Heritage.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (uvNSk)

1093
#1075 - Like I said, conservatism's problem is that liberals get to define it. And they do that very effectively while we wait for Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity to whine and screech about how unfair it is. See the problem?

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (GJUgF)

1094 For what it is worth, I didn't hear mitt say abortion or gay marriage at all. It's a party problem. It's dudes like akin who give the press ammunition. And it's stupid people that are I'll informed on history and current events.

Posted by: California red at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (DXTKe)

1095 I guess this would have come as a surprise to anyone who hasn't read Mark Steyn.

Posted by: Chuck Pylon at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (2oSxi)

1096 "So-cons don't lose elections - stepping on your dick while pandering to so-cons (Akin, Mourdock) lose elections..."

socon candidates lose elections. socon voters won't conceivably vote democrat, and in an election like this, enough would have voted republican to unseat obama no matter what.

running socon candidates is a problem because it loses a lot of moderate voters...socon voters will still vote for a moderate republican -- who can get more moderate votes -- over a democrat.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (79EF9)

1097 Romney was the right man. Name one other candidate on the GOP debate stage that would have outperformed Romney tonight. It's not a candidate problem, it's bigger than that. Romney had to fight the media at every step. Everything he did was a gaffe and nothingnobama did got mentioned. Not even when 4 got killed in Benghazi. Whomever the gop would have nominated would have been a religious warrior waging the war on women, the war on gays, etc. whomever the GOP nominated would have been accused of being for the rich. They are all rich. They are all white. They are all talking about taking away your Obamaphone. I'm not putting this on Mitt. I'm thankful for mitts service.

Posted by: California red at November 07, 2012 12:23 AM

Exactly.

Posted by: otho at November 07, 2012 12:33 AM (yBF/9)

1098 It's all about debt now. Don't buy the wrong debt, don't co-sign the wrong debt...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:34 AM (GJUgF)

1099 >>> A hurricane in NJ didn't lose Romney FL man. Jesus.

With all due respect.

And please pause for a second and try and think about this.

Many people here made the point that people in NJ and NY, heavily Obama already, were frustrated because of the slow recovery.

But people in FL didn't go through that frustration. They just saw the President's photo op, trying to help fellow citizens.

The hurricane helped the President more outside of the impact zone than inside it.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:34 AM (SKX2R)

1100 may chris christie burn in hell.
So much for ann coulter's instincts. Two of a kind.
and btw, Newt wouldn't have rolled over and played dead for months at a time during the campaign either. Better to go down with a fight than a meek little grin.
Next time, if there is a next time, I want somebody with fire in his belly.

Posted by: weo at November 07, 2012 12:34 AM (9JrlY)

1101 1095 I guess this would have come as a surprise to anyone who hasn't read Mark Steyn. _______________

You don't want to believe what he writes sometimes, but he's spot on.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 07, 2012 12:34 AM (fkaOH)

1102 But I watched TV and listened to the radio. This was on there all. the damned. time. Seriously, 80% of Democrat radio ads were about this.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:29 AM (LCRYB)

We lost access through the courts the day Bork got Borked. We moved to a Congressional GOP that gets what your saying about incrementalism on the Pro-Life issue but they are clueless about how to argue why the same principle for banning partial applies to a child conceived in rape.

That's why Akin and Murdouch stepped in it, they merely had a crappy talking point and they had a brain fart when called on it.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:34 AM (BBlzg)

1103 After all, Romney lost OH, FL and CO. There were no Crazy so-cons for
Senate in OH, FL and CO. So the logical idea is that Romney dragged R-MO
and R-IN down. Alas, you are not logical. You're just a fucking RINO
scum.

* * *

First off, RINO scum? I spent days and days and days working for Mitt, doing what I could do to get him elected. Alas, I am insulted by some ree-ree.

Second, I don't know what to tell you if you don't realize that Akin and Mourdock were elevated into national targets immediately after their remarks.

Posted by: WAGOPinTX at November 07, 2012 12:35 AM (fXInK)

1104 If Obama really has won then we begin to see the collapse of business. There are a lot of businesses small and large that have been hanging on by their fingernails waiting to see if there was a ghost of a chance that the ACA would be stopped. They can't hang on any longer. You think unemployment is bad now? You think growth is low now?

And on the flip side, like people have mentioned, at least 1, maybe 2 more seats will open up on the Supreme Court. Those seats won't b e leftist idiots like before, they'll be more centrist or even right leaning judges, as judges go. Then there's the executive orders. President Obama has proved he's more than willing to simply implement policy that congress won't.

The only thing, the only thing restraining him was the fear of not being reelected. without that on the table, he'll simply do whatever he wants. Congress can squawk, but they'll never impeach or even try. They can try to pass laws, but Reid will just table them with a smug grin. The courts won't do anything and even if they tried, how would they execute their will?

For three years now congress has simply not passed a budget, despite being ordered to by the US Constitution. They didn't get punished for that. Or the ACA. Or the Stimulus. They just did whatever they wanted and said "fuck you" to the American people... who just patted them on the back and said "now don't do that again!"

No more budgets, ever again. Why even bother? All the do is hurt you when it comes to running for reelection, and it gives the opposition a chance to have a voice. Just ignore it.

For people saying "we'll get past this," you aren't thinking this through. This is the end of the line.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:35 AM (r4wIV)

1105 Does anyone think that gun owners are going to stand for their weapons suddenly becoming illegal? For Catholics to suddenly say"Sure, we were wrong and we will provide free abortion to our employees"? Or the myriad anti-constitutional moves by the administration will be suddenly OK?
Do you think that 175 MILLION Americans are going to get lobotomies and suddenly believe the MSM?

Look at the popular vote. Half the Country wants a representative republic and half wants a socialist hell hole. What do you think is about to happen?

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:35 AM (+paCV)

1106 Ace is right about the abortion thing, I am pro-life, but it didn't get by me in the debate when Obenghazi gave his answer those litte dials went way up. And almost every dem commercial here in a swing state was total the gop is gonna attack your vjay.

It bothers me, but it seems that is a fact.

Nevertheless, I still think it is you can payoff 51% of the people and win elections. That time has come to America, it is a different nation now.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (PHb2k)

1107 We ran a safe, handsome, socially liberal INCUMBENT in Mass and he lost to a socialist. I don't think you "throw away the principles" people understand the long game as well as you think you do.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (6JMZR)

1108 [spew snipped]

Posted by: Linlithgow at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (Gim9y)

1109 1066 Not saying you're not right Ace, but Carville on CNN just echoed your post almost exactly

So, the War on Women schtick had traction because voters believed it, or because we gave the media an easy talking point to dominate a few news cycles? Was it because we directly turned off voters, or because we stomped on our narrative?

Posted by: CJ at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (9G+G5)

1110 Divided States of Idiocracy.

That's where we are and I just don't see a resolution until utter, internal collapse. It's coming. Goodbye dollar, hello yen. Also, hello creeping sharia, "free" shit on even more borrowed money, capital flight, accelerated decline of private enterprise, expanded pay for play, nation of lawlessness, more constrained speech, and paper tiger.

We have just been fundamentally transformed. SMOD wouldn't even want to drop in now for fear of contamination. This nation is boned and Americans put on the condom.

Way to go, Idiots.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (eHIJJ)

1111 >>> OK, Ace, explain how any Republican pol can get above 25% without Christians.

They can't, Gerry.

IF you want to win elections across the country with more socially conservative Christian friendly policies, this is what you must do: convert more people to socially conservative Christianity.

Otherwise, how do you imagine it might happen?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (SKX2R)

1112 1091 lulz Jen Rubin blaming conservatives for making her crush lose the election
Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:32 AM (tw6Ar)

Why did I mentally predict she would do that months ago during the primaries when she was getting all pissy at Newt and Santorum?

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (BBlzg)

1113 Crap - sorry about the weird formatting above!

Posted by: Linlithgow at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (Gim9y)

1114 I might add I expect the market to collapse later today.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:37 AM (+paCV)

1115 It's going to be interesting when TSHITF and Obama has no one to blame but himself

Posted by: Zakn at November 07, 2012 12:37 AM (LbwgI)

1116
I don't know why we lost. Main thing is I really don't give a shit why we lost. We lost and the idiots that voted for Obama and the idiots that didn't come out to vote and the idiots that voted for Gary Johnson have made their choice.


They beleive we can afford Obama, we can't. The evangicals didn't come out to vote again according to exits, so I guess they are cool with 3 more liberal judges on the Supreme Court. The 47% thinks they are going to get free shit, they aren't. We don't have any money.


Why we lost doesn't matter, we won't get another chance.

Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2012 12:37 AM (rTgOf)

1117 This will get lost in the noise of tonight's chaos but I feel I have to post something, if only a scream in the night.

I've been lurking here since before the 2008 elections. The insanity of this place has been one of the few things that have kept my spirits up. Thank you to so many Morons that have made me laugh over the past 4 years.

Tonight has utterly destroyed my last hope of survival for this experiment called "America".

I'm totally drunk off my ass in the true moron way and find it hard to see the monitor through the tears as I type this, as I watched America die tonight.

I turn 55 in few weeks, divorced (2 grown kids) and weep for what lies ahead of them.

I went "Galt" back around 2005. Now it's time for me to simply vanish off the grid and let the chips fall as they may.

I soon as sober up in the next day or two, I will be getting rid of every piece of shit that I own that isn't vital to my survival or a keepsake that can't be parted with.

I will be putting my house on the market after that and taking whatever I can get for it.

Step two will be vanishing into the vastness of this country. I simply won't be a target for the onslaught of Government that is coming. I'll die a Free Man on my own terms before I'll become a slave to The State.

Dad was an Okie and I spent a quite a few of my younger years there. The state still has a tug at my heart. As Commander John Koenig once said "Maybe there".

Fuck Obama. Fuck Communists/Socialists/Marxists and whatever/whoever else seeks to overthrow the Constitutional Republic that we call The United States of America.

As Ben Franklin said "....if you can keep it". As tonight has shown, we've lost that ability. History has shown that ALL Republics/Democracies fall. I just never thought I'd live to see it happen.

We have become a pre-Civil War nation. We have become divided in a way that simply cannot be reconciled through normal political means. There are too many that will happily suck this nation dry, oblivious to the disaster that lurks ahead. We are awash is low-information voters and Useful Idiots. Sadly their votes count as much as those that take the time to become informed and educated about the true nature of this Nation and the World we live in. Tonight has shown that between them, and the complicit Mainstream Media, we are outnumbered.

As I'm fond of saying, I'm an Agnostic on a good day and an an Atheist on bad ones, but from the bottom of my heart, may God bless and protect those love this country.

Damn. All out of booze and way beyond safe to go out and get more. What am I supposed to do with the pudding I've stashed in the fridge?

Posted by: Long time lurker at November 07, 2012 12:38 AM (pR0/y)

1118 1034 Where now?
-
Back to blood.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 12:38 AM (4qa9e)

1119 @1109

BullShit...They cheated better period! America is officially a Joke if Obama wins this!

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:38 AM (uvNSk)

1120 I am saying that there are some people who want to announce PLAINLY unpalatable ideas and run on them.

Like Democrats? Who announce they will raise taxes, spend more, and then do stuff that really pisses people off... then get reelected anyway? Like that, Ace?

I'm not saying that's bad but stop saying he's not pro-life. He is.

yes, he said he was pro-choice in MA. He lied.


When? He changed his mind to get elected then changed it back? And you know this how? He didn't run as a social conservative. He didn't govern as a social conservative. Blaming this on social conservatism is just brainless.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (r4wIV)

1121 "true cons" have been getting blame for longer than tonight
Posted by: The Dude at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (tw6Ar)

You are correct, of course.
Its just funny to me that the Socons are treated by te repubs as the blacks are in the Dem party........"you will shut up and vote for us because we are the best option you have".
This is why the Repub party is on the path to doom.
I'll only let you cum in my mouth so many times before I geta wee bit gun shy.

Posted by: FederalismIsThePoint at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (DWz4h)

1122 We ran a safe, handsome, socially liberal INCUMBENT in Mass and he lost to a socialist. I don't think you "throw away the principles" people understand the long game as well as you think you do.

Let's discuss

Posted by: CJ at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (9G+G5)

1123 If the recounts fail, where's the rally point folks: an Article 5 convention, Perry's 10th Amendment project, replacing Boner in the house, new Senate leader - Rand?

Posted by: Jean at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (RURIy)

1124 To those commenting above about a new party (sorry, I'm in the bottle a bit tonight, so I'm hazy on names and post numbers, lol).

I think we need a new party in the sense that we need to rebrand the GOP. I was listening to WRKO (I love Jeff Kuhner, so I listen on the internet) and he was relating a story about a woman who voted for Obama. He said, why did you vote the way you did? And she replied: "Romney doesn't like poor people." This is what we're fighting against.

We can't do much about that in the short run. Conservatives have been continuously charged with hating the poor, no matter how much they give to charity, no matter how generous they are with their own time and money.

Much effort needs to be devoted in this country to changing the perception of generosity from an outmoded 1960s model that entails government largesse, to one that focuses on individual charity. People look at the horrible squalor that many live in, and think, I need to do something. So they vote Democratic and feel better. But 60 years of Democrat policies have done nothing to eliminate poverty. We need some kind of public relations makeover that will show that poverty is not based on race, that it is not based on "circumstances", that is created by a collective attitude of "gimme".

If there is one thing that I wish, above all else, I wish that someone with a lot of money comes out of the shadows and begins to push that message on television, on the radio, on the internet. We have tried the polices of social welfare, and we are poorer than ever. LBJ's Great Society has failed. More people are in poverty than ever - the percentage in poverty is exactly the same as it was in 1965. We've spent trillions redistributing and subsidizing and it has done NOTHING. Push it out there with pictures of the slums of Newark and Camden and Toledo and the Bronx. Show before and after pictures of Durham in the 1960s and Durham today. Rub the people's noses in it that IT ISNT WORKING.

That's the rebranding I have in mind.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (LN5eJ)

1125 >>> OK, Ace, explain how any Republican pol can get above 25% without Christians.

They can't, Gerry.

IF you want to win elections across the country with more socially conservative Christian friendly policies, this is what you must do: convert more people to socially conservative Christianity.

Otherwise, how do you imagine it might happen?
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:36 AM (SKX2R)

He's saying where does the base for the GOP come from? The results tomorrow are going to show Obama won at least 2/3's of people that are unaffiliated with any religion, while Romney probably won 2/3's plus of people who attend Church at least once a week.

I truly did used to think that we could win with a Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal base, but one big problem with that.

The electorate didn't vote for either.

They voted for Fiscal Populism and they voted for Social Liberalism.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (BBlzg)

1126
FUCK THIS FUCKED UP COUNTRY....SERIOUS???? BARRY?????
DIE LIKE FRANCE......DIE LIKE FRANCE!...HELL IN A HANDBASKET
YOU POS FUCKED UP "I WANT TO FEEL GOOD" LIBTARDS THAT ARE THE FUCKTARDS OF ALL TIME>>>YOU OWN THIS!!! YOU SO FUCKING OWN THIS!!! AND 4 YEARS FROM NOW...YOU WILL SO TRY TO DENY THIS...such is your bullshit creed!! YES! you will deny this when the shit goes bad...cause...you be libtards!! OWN IT LIBTARDS!!

Posted by: RICHARD!! at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (tKpj6)

1127 Jimi ray, totally agree. I cut corners in my comment. There's a fine line between a serious message and a frightening message. Too many Akins and Mourdocks reel out a frightening message and are honestly surprised to find they've said anything wrong. Assholes...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:39 AM (GJUgF)

1128 I'm going away. This is a tremendously sad day.

This will be a bad four years.

Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (LCRYB)

1129 >>I might add I expect the market to collapse later today.

That isn't exactly Nostradamus like.

If you liked the last 4 years, you are going to love the next 4.

Watch for bombs over Iran.

Soon.

Bibi just got the green light.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (TMB3S)

1130 I don't understand the commenters who say that Obama won't be able to blame Bush in his second term. Of course he'll blame Bush. Why wouldn't he?

Posted by: Scobface at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (IoNBC)

1131 >>> A new party will do nothing. Look at history, at Canada- bringing in a new party just splits votes for decades to come. The ONLY way to fix this is to reform the GOP from within. Period.


>>> Posted by: Book at November 07, 2012 12:14 AM (GYXSA)

>>> Really?
Posted by: the Whig Party at November 07, 2012 12:21

Yes.

The Progressive Conservative party in Canada splintered into two parties and the right was in the political wilderness for a long time.

Finally Stephen Harper, leader of the reform party, with the help of the PC leader who bit the bullet for the good of the movement, formed the Conservative Party.

It still took them 3 elections (Canadian elections can happen more frequently though on account of their parliamentary system) for Harper to win a minority government. He won another minority government after that, through competent economically but not socially conservative leadership (although tough on crime), and finally was rewarded with a majority government.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (SKX2R)

1132 Oh god think of the tax increases when the bond market churns. Let alone when the dollar goes to shit

Posted by: Zakn at November 07, 2012 12:41 AM (LbwgI)

1133 Here's a great question:

Do they continue to game the UE numbers? Under 6% by the November 2014 while real employment plummets or remains stagnant? Is there any reason for any of them not to lie about anything anymore?

They've been honing their lies for 50 years and they know now that it works.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 07, 2012 12:41 AM (6JMZR)

1134 So, when do we start rioting? That's right, no matter what happens, we won't. We are civilized. Only the children of Obama riot.

This is the kinda shit that gets me really pissed off. They can threaten to riot all they want and nobody gives a shit, somehow I'm the racist one step from violence. It's the same shit as the "Religion of Peace". I used to laugh it off but I'm really getting sick of being called a racist.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 07, 2012 12:41 AM (YxaXw)

1135 WAGOPinTX at November 07, 2012 12:35 AM (fXInK)

If you didn't get it: your Mitt is a RINO scum, one of the worst. So shove him and the entire Commonwealth of Mass in your hairy butthole until it bleeds.

We tolerated your BS, your condescending, pretentious attitude since your RINO-GOD was nominated. For the good of this great nation.

But now you blame us? Fuck you. Fuck Mitt. Fuck ace. You RINOS are dilusional and dangerous (see ace's prophetical "prediction" of Romney landslide), and you will have to be rooted out.

Posted by: RINOSAURUS at November 07, 2012 12:41 AM (udTVX)

1136
Ilove it if Romney challenged whatever states were the closest and dragged it on for months. Just to do it, even if it doesn't change anything. Just to fuck with TFG.

Posted by: joanne at November 07, 2012 12:41 AM (VNFBf)

1137 Do you not understand that politics become impossible with a base? Christian conservatives are the Republicans base. The candidates they elect also happen to be the most conservative members of Congress. But yes lets just throw them overboard because Ace embarrassed himself with his bad predictions.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at November 07, 2012 12:42 AM (kQl8p)

1138 > I don't understand the commenters who say that Obama won't be able to blame Bush in his second term. Of course he'll blame Bush. Why wouldn't he?

Bingo. That horse will ride up to 2016 and beyond. For as long as the GOP wants to get beat I suppose.

Also, O will govern like he has a mandate, and the media will be behind that 100%. GOP will fold like a cheap suit. Also: Grover's finished. Tax cuts WILL happen, and his spell will be over.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:42 AM (LmEvg)

1139
Watch for bombs over Iran.



Soon.



Bibi just got the green light.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (TMB3S)

Good. Turn Iran into a fucking parking lot.

Posted by: tdpwells at November 07, 2012 12:42 AM (01otU)

1140 1108

In the barrel

Posted by: The Q at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (w4fEE)

1141 >>>When? He changed his mind to get elected then changed it back? And you
know this how?


Articles. Newspapers.

>>>He didn't run as a social conservative. He didn't
govern as a social conservative. Blaming this on social conservatism is
just brainless.

I'm saying yes, Rape Abortion hurt.

Romney lost the national election by 60,000 votes. Like a 0.1% difference.

If you're going to pretend that all those ads linking him to Akin and Mourdock's Rape Abortion stuff didn't swing any votes... Okay.

Let me just tell you I believe they were running those ads for a REASON. I don't think they thought those ads were helping Romney.

Do you?


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (LCRYB)

1142 I'm going away. This is a tremendously sad day.

This will be a bad four years.
Posted by: ace



No Ace. This is really the end. America is over.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (+paCV)

1143 I truly did used to think that we could win with a Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal base, but one big problem with that.

The electorate didn't vote for either.

They voted for Fiscal Populism and they voted for Social Liberalism.


Yep, this had nothing to do with being insufficiently libertarian. This wasn't a case of being too socially conservative. The voters didn't even give a damn, apparently.

They went for the guy that's doing the worst job ever as president and cried for more.

And Obama with 4 more years might blame Bush and get away with it... but why bother? What difference does it make? Why even blame anyone, just do whatever the hell you want. Not only does he not have to worry about reelection, but it doesn't seem to make a damn bit of difference.

I can't even figure out why Michelle Obama is defending her vacations. She should say "up yours cracker, I got mine" and laugh as she walks away. What's going to happen? It never gets any airplay and the press plays along.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (r4wIV)

1144 So we'll be getting more guns?

Posted by: Mexican Cartels at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (cKfPM)

1145 I started a small CPA practice early last year. and we've been growing rapidly, in spite of TFG.

I've been holding offon hiring more peoplebecause of the election and am trying to do far too much work myself.

Many of my clients, Ifear, have been hanging on by their fingernails -desperately hoping the JEF wouldbe thrown out and then things would turn around for them.

Now I'm afraid we are all screwed.

And whoever said they felt the market would tank Wednesday? I agree

Posted by: Marybeth at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (fkaOH)

1146
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (SKX2R)

Sounds like a good idea. I'll be dead by then, but what the hey.

Posted by: joanne at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (VNFBf)

1147 >>Good. Turn Iran into a fucking parking lot.

Yea, what could possibly be better than WWIII.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (TMB3S)

1148 Finally Stephen Harper, leader of the reform party, with the help of the PC leader who bit the bullet for the good of the movement, formed the Conservative Party.

It still took them 3 elections (Canadian elections can happen more frequently though on account of their parliamentary system) for Harper to win a minority government. He won another minority government after that, through competent economically but not socially conservative leadership (although tough on crime), and finally was rewarded with a majority government.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (SKX2R)

I love Stephen Harper and he's done some good things in Canada but he has continued to deficit spend like the Liberals all 6 years of his PMship.

Watch SunNewsNetowrk, Canada's version of Fox News (well at least Fox News in the 90's.)

They are not happy with him.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (BBlzg)

1149 Keep in mind that Harry Truman won election in 1948 partially by STILL blaming Herbert Hoover way back in 1932.

They can blame Bush as long as they want

Posted by: The Q at November 07, 2012 12:44 AM (w4fEE)

1150 EVERYONE ismissing the big picture. People are scared and many won't change horses in mid stream. It's stupid, simplistic and WRONG in this case, but I think enough of that went on to tip the scales tonight...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:44 AM (GJUgF)

1151
And now Joe Trippi rationalizes Obama's re-election.

And he actually makes a point. A fundamental mistake in the Romney campaign's response to the negative campaigning by Barack.

And Rove is right. Obama will not change his character. I expect a lot of people to have another case of stupid buyer's remorse in a year or so.
But come 2016, who knows?

We have become a nation of many dolts voting, where our votes have become worth less than nothing, a so many people have no clue as to why they vote, except a feeling that "this guy is no good".

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:44 AM (Md8Uo)

1152 Consession speech in about an hour according to Carl Cameron.

Posted by: joanne at November 07, 2012 12:44 AM (VNFBf)

1153 Posted by: Long time lurker

God bless you. I'm with you. I will die a free man.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 12:45 AM (+paCV)

1154 So you're embassies are going to be left to fend for themselves.

Posted by: spontaneously rioting Arab video critics at November 07, 2012 12:45 AM (cKfPM)

1155 Forever lurker, first time poster. In Wisconsin. Stone sober.

The national GOP is dead to me. The Catholic Church, if it submits to this new world, will be dead to me. This is a 'changes everything' type of night. This is not my first ass-kicking, but it's time to identify the hills to die on.

Posted by: Funk Nasty at November 07, 2012 12:45 AM (QBSp1)

1156 So... Florida and Virginia too, I'm assuming.

Final total of votes cast will be fewer than '08?

So it was a turnout election. We didn't turn out.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 07, 2012 12:45 AM (BeSEI)

1157 @1130

Crazy World we are Living IN!

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:45 AM (uvNSk)

1158 The house is going to be blamed now. They kinda already were, but that's getting turned up to 11. There is going to be immense pressure on them from the left/press. So we are going to have to apply the pressure ourselves to counterbalance.

And here's the reality. 7.9% unemployment is acceptable. If they get it down to 6.5 or so in 4 years, I guess people will be orgasmic.

So messed up, but that's our country these days I guess.

Posted by: Dave S. at November 07, 2012 12:46 AM (UvR6d)

1159 "CA has a killer economy, and more dollars are taken from it and redistributed to Red states than it receives.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:28 AM (LmEvg)"



So the CA gov't borrows all that money and goes that deeply into debt to send it out to red states?


I think you have commerce confused with statist redistribution.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at November 07, 2012 12:46 AM (uD2fR)

1160 The Road to Serfdom doesn't go on forever. Eventually, you reach Serfdom. And if I read Hayek correctly, it's the people who beg the government to take them there.

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:46 AM (Tlix5)

1161 So, I can get back into business?

Posted by: Solyndra at November 07, 2012 12:46 AM (cKfPM)

1162
If you're going to pretend that all those ads linking him to Akin and Mourdock's Rape Abortion stuff didn't swing any votes... Okay.


Dude, they were going to say that stuff anyway. And they did. They claimed the dumbest, most outrageous idiotic crap like banning tampons and apparently people bought it.

What I'm saying is that social conservatism isn't what lost this election. Romney didn't run on social conservatism. What lost this election apparently is just lies and media spin. It doesn't matter what Akin and Mourdock said - if you look at their actual statements and what they said in context it wasn't even that big a deal.

But even guys like you bought into the media lie. They won because they lied into a win, not because of social conservatism

IF Rudolph Giuliani ran and everyone was a good boy by your rules and never said a thing that would be remotely controversial to a leftist... they still would claim it and lie about it.

All I'm saying is stop blaming social conservatism. That wasn't the problem.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:47 AM (r4wIV)

1163 1130 I don't understand the commenters who say that Obama won't be able to blame Bush in his second term. Of course he'll blame Bush. Why wouldn't he?
Posted by: Scobface at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (IoNBC)


The one thing the Left excels at is casting all blame on scapegoats. Bush is going to be the villain for the next 4 years at least. At this rate he'll be the 21st century Herbert Hoover.

Posted by: Mætenloch at November 07, 2012 12:47 AM (uyPho)

1164 >>>They voted for Fiscal Populism and they voted for Social Liberalism.

Yup. Yeah, it was a full-spectrum loss, really. They weren't jazzed about capitalism, either, it seems.

Plus, we still haven't dealt with this, but Bush's war policy is furiously unpopular.

Amazingly catastrophic loss in all respects.

Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:47 AM (LCRYB)

1165 You can tell very clearly where this will head in 2016. Its Rubio or bust to save the Latino vote. The days of running a plain vanilla ticket are over.

Posted by: Jaydee at November 07, 2012 12:47 AM (E5DLT)

1166 >>> You do realize that California's economy is larger than Australia's, right?

Well it had better, you have double the population.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:47 AM (SKX2R)

1167 We keep being told Americans poll fiscally conservative. Officially now a clear sign someone is trying to blow sunshine up your ass...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (GJUgF)

1168 "The evangicals didn't come out to vote again according to exits"

the evangelical thing is over.

it's not that evangelicals aren't voting, it's that folks aren't identifying as evangelical anymore.

it was cool back in the 90's when it was about ffps and suburban community building and safe alternatives to halloween...now it's all about stopping the national collapse that will inevitably follow boys marrying boys and how islamofascism is the biggest threat to americans' lives in 2012...not to mention speaking in tongues and women can't be pastors and all the other picked-and-chosen outdated superstitions that have all but destroyed the fundamentalist brand.

a lot of people don't want to be a part of that anymore. a lot of people who grew up in those churches have left them; a lot of young families who joined evangelical churches after their first urban exodus moved on to the less-strident, more-positive messaging of megachurches and the like.

there's a new game in town.

2008 was the final dying push of american paleoconservatism. it's time for a younger, fresher, and more eclectic GOP to rise from the ashes of the finally extinguished dream of leave-it-to-beaver america.

Posted by: jimi ray at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (79EF9)

1169 Yep, this had nothing to do with being insufficiently libertarian. This wasn't a case of being too socially conservative. The voters didn't even give a damn, apparently. They went for the guy that's doing the worst job ever as president and cried for more. And Obama with 4 more years might blame Bush and get away with it... but why bother? What difference does it make? Why even blame anyone, just do whatever the hell you want. Not only does he not have to worry about reelection, but it doesn't seem to make a damn bit of difference. I can't even figure out why Michelle Obama is defending her vacations. She should say "up yours cracker, I got mine" and laugh as she walks away. What's going to happen? It never gets any airplay and the press plays along.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM

Yes. What's more I suspect Barry is not going to give shit #1 about the dems after his reign. It's always been about Barry. He's going to do whatever he fucking wants now, damn the torpedoes and damn 2016.

Posted by: otho at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (yBF/9)

1170 @1150

I reject that! I trust the electoral process in this country about as much as I trust our government! The government gets few things correct, and there is no way this was a representative election.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (uvNSk)

1171 Romney lost the national election by 60,000 votes. Like a 0.1% difference.

If you're going to pretend that all those ads linking him to Akin and Mourdock's Rape Abortion stuff didn't swing any votes... Okay.

Let me just tell you I believe they were running those ads for a REASON. I don't think they thought those ads were helping Romney.

Do you?


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (LCRYB)

Why should the socon rank and file get blamed for Akin and Murdouch being to inept to have a response to that question.

I wanted Akin gone as much as you did because he felt he deserved the seat. Murdouch should have had an answer to that question waiting his campaign plan file months ago. That's on him.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (BBlzg)

1172 I just turned off fox. One good thing about Obama winning. I won't be wasting time watching cable news anymore.

Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (rTgOf)

1173 So we are going to have to apply the pressure ourselves to counterbalance.

Why? What is it supposed to accomplish? There's no going back from this Dave.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:48 AM (r4wIV)

1174 1013 I bet many inner city legit votes went to Obama just to keep the jackals at bay. They were threatening riots, so they got their way. Obama will not be able to play golf, or have great parties, he will hate the next four years.
------------------
I think there's definitely something to the last part of this. The media will keep covering for their boyfriend, but as things get worsethan anyone ever envisionedand he and his followerscan't blame Bush as easily, the stress is really going to get to him. It will be interesting to see what happens.

It doesn't mean that the country won't keep electing socialists from now on, but TFG's personal popularity is going to dive and not being loved is going to take its toll on him. I also expect Michelle to move to Hawaii way before 2016.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 07, 2012 12:49 AM (qtKqj)

1175 From now on can we just let the liberal bitches kill their babies and not be bothered by it? Seriously, why the hell does it matter if liberal bitches want to kill their spawn? We. Need. To. Learn. This.

Posted by: streetparade at November 07, 2012 12:49 AM (GGCBH)

1176 > I truly did used to think that we could win with a Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal base, but one big problem with that.

> The electorate didn't vote for either.

That's because neither was on the ballot. Red and Blue teams (wisely) split those votes.

Right now, the country is more socially liberal than it is fiscally conservative. But it *is* fiscally conservative. Poll after poll confirms this. Same thing with the socially liberal bit.

That Gary Johnson (a two-term Republican governor that veto'd more bills than the other 49 Governors *combined* and was pushed off the stage by a busload of Socons so Romney could win the nomination) is getting the best LP party total since 1980 is further proof.

Social conservatism has been on the decline for a long time, and is a complete show stopper for a plurality of voters, REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE CANDIDATE.

And the entire GOP gets tarred with that when any candidate stands up and starts spouting the Socon platform.

It has to go, if the GOP wants to win again nationally.

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:49 AM (LmEvg)

1177 1137 Do you not understand that politics become impossible with a base? Christian conservatives are the Republicans base.
-
Did you mean "without"?

And Whites are the Republican base. If you agree to continuing mass immigration and Whites going down as a share of the population every year, you agree to defeat for the Republican Party. You also agree to an anti-White hegemony and in the long run genocide, but never mind that; people here care about Republican wins, right?

Focus on this: the Republican Party gets 90% of its votes from Whites, and when it agrees to what's bad for the Whites it agrees to ruin for itself. Eventually demographics mean that even a bad Democratic President with a bad economy can be re-elected.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 12:49 AM (4qa9e)

1178 >>>It doesn't matter what Akin and Mourdock said - if you look at their
actual statements and what they said in context it wasn't even that big a
deal.

Laughing. This is your problem. You don't think, "in context," that it was "even that big a deal."

It's horrifying. I know you have a bunch of Principles and Bible passages (which don't actually mention abortion or certainly not rape abortion) that makes it "not a big deal," but trust me, it's a big deal.

You would stop a woman from taking Plan B within hours of being raped in order to make sure her rape-child implants. And force her to carry her rapist's child to term.

"Not a big deal." Okay.

Keep thinking that way.

A lot of people think it's horrifying. You might as well hold the victim down while you're at it.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:50 AM (LCRYB)

1179
Longtime Lurker, save the pudding it will be a valuable asset in the coming collapse.

But I am with you brother, going as Galt as I can, searching out every f'ing loophole, and gonna take advantage of free govt cheese where I can. Its the only smart thing to do.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2012 12:50 AM (PHb2k)

1180 Romney got the vote of most of the people who have a stake in the future of this country (married, home owners, parents) and who don't have a racial chip on their shoulder. It's the fucking immature imbeciles and racially-aggrieved who have none of those who put Obama over the top, along with whatever psychological problems those who fit the Romney demographic have that caused them to vote for Obama.

Romney probably won 60-63% of the vote amongst those who have a stake in the future. As shit goes downhill over the next four years, the next GOP nominee, without changing a thing in terms of platform, could get 65-70% of that vote.

We just need all those people to move to either Ohio or Florida.


Posted by: BS Inc. at November 07, 2012 12:50 AM (P2Ufm)

1181 I think its especially idiotic to trust the exit polls, for God's sake, they've been way off every single year for almost two decades now. Whatever value polls have, exit polling isn't even scientific.

We had turnout. Lots of folks went to vote. Where did their votes go? What happened with all those massively packed polling places that everyone was reporting almost everywhere? Did they just go and look around then leave? They voted.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:51 AM (r4wIV)

1182 Let me just tell you I believe they were running those ads for a REASON. I don't think they thought those ads were helping Romney.Do you?

Well, I think promising free shit might have have been done for a REASON too....do you?
Jesus (in a non offensive, non bible banging way, of course for the pc crowd), the problem in this country is NOT God and it ISN'T whether its ok to kill babies....the problem is that TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE THEIR HANDS OUT FOR FREE SHIT

Posted by: FederalismIsThePoint at November 07, 2012 12:51 AM (DWz4h)

1183 If it makes anyone feel better, the country didn't end tonight. It ended the night McCain got the nomination. That Soros-funded rat. We were done at that moment and I knew it. I've been fooling myself for four years. I knew it then and know it now. That was the end.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 07, 2012 12:51 AM (6JMZR)

1184
Yeah, that's about right.
Bush will be the political boogey man for a generation.

And the show must go on.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at November 07, 2012 12:51 AM (Md8Uo)

1185 >>>I wanted Akin gone as much as you did because he felt he deserved the
seat. Murdouch should have had an answer to that question waiting his
campaign plan file months ago. That's on him.

I don't think these people should be nominated, and I don't think they should be encouraged in these massively unpopular beliefs.

They can hold them, sure. But to proclaim them as policy?

Some people might have a deeply held belief that wives should be submissive to their husbands.

Right?

Now, what's the popularity on that position? Is there any chance of seeing it prevail?

No, there's not. So take it out of the "policy" realm and simply say it's a personal belief. (ON that one, better to not say it at all, but let's get away from this announcing it as the policy you would push on the public, for God's sake.)


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:52 AM (LCRYB)

1186 Krauthammer got that Skeletor thing workin' well now...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:52 AM (GJUgF)

1187 "Not a big deal." Okay.

Keep thinking that way.


See? You swallowed it whole, hook line and sinker. You gobbled up the media's spin like it was a sloppy cheeseburger from Carl's jr.

And that's how it was done. Not social conservatives.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:52 AM (r4wIV)

1188 Akin!

Mourdock!

Palin!

Romney's GOTV was so very extremely golden good!

It's the hurricane!

It's the condoms!

It's a hurricane of Palin's condoms!

Posted by: ace the butthurt at November 07, 2012 12:53 AM (udTVX)

1189 1176 Right now, the country is more socially liberal than it is fiscally conservative. But it *is* fiscally conservative. Poll after poll confirms this.
-
Not the one that counts.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 12:53 AM (4qa9e)

1190 1116


Why we lost doesn't matter, we won't get another chance.

Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2012 12:37 AM (rTgOf)
----Agreed. I can't look at this any other way but that the American people saw 8% unemployment, under 2% GDP growth, massive deficits, and collectively said "We're ok with this.". If that's the case, there's nothing to be done. What can the Republican party do, promise even more free shit?
Oh and to bolster my point as I write this, I just saw on Fox that an amendment in Florida to ban publicly funded abortion went down 55% to 44%. Awesome! But yes, we're a fiscally conservative country.Screw it. We're done. Just give me my free shit too.

Posted by: Mullaney at November 07, 2012 12:53 AM (s8XaI)

1191 Hope my batteries can last another 4 years.

Posted by: TOTUS at November 07, 2012 12:53 AM (cKfPM)

1192 @1181

Thank You,

I believe the same, and I reject the idea that Obama could win this legitimately.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:53 AM (uvNSk)

1193 1164 Ace:

It wasn't the Going to War and KICKING ASS, people had a problem with..

Its the STAYING and NATION BUILDING that pissed people off!

Also, I agree with you that the SO-Cons FUCKING BLEW IT!!

Posted by: JarvisW in TEXAS at November 07, 2012 12:53 AM (E7Iyp)

1194 My stock answer for ANY AND EVERY charity asking for money from here one out? "Ask Obama for the money, because this well has been bled dry".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (I3c7q)

1195 It ended the night McCain got the nomination. That Soros-funded rat.

We had the slimmest, most desperate glimmer of hope left. Its gone now. Its all gone. Maybe democracies just can't last, maybe liberty is always doomed to die. Its just so hard to see the dreams of men like Jefferson and Washington go down the tubes like this. Its so very tragic and pointless.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (r4wIV)

1196
"Some people might have a deeply held belief that wives should be submissive to their husbands.

Right?

Now, what's the popularity on that position? Is there any chance of seeing it prevail?"


You opened a multi-culti can of worms with that one..

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (GJUgF)

1197 Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:50 AM (LCRYB)

THIS is what I'm talking about. As long as people with that mindset make up a decent amount of republican primary voters...

What are we supposed to do?

Posted by: Timin203 at November 07, 2012 12:54 AM (azmhu)

1198 Early goddam voting and the fucking press.

Posted by: joanne at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (VNFBf)

1199
America is screwed. No president who has been re-elected has ever had a better second term than the first. So we will be looking back on the first Obama term as 'the good old days' in a couple of years. With the Republicans still in control of the House, we will see investigations into Fast and Furious and Benghazi. Stuff will finally come out now that BHO is safely beyond the election, and Americans will have big time buyers remorse within a year. Too bad, we are stuck with this disaster now, since Ried and the Senate Dems will NEVER vote to remove Obama, even if he is impeached, under any circumstances whatsoever. It isn't Romneys fault, I think Pat Cadell got it right when he called the MSM 'the enemy of the American people.' They still get to shape the perceptions of a majority of Americans, unfortunately. That should be obvious since everyone who gets their information from here, or Breitbart or Rush, etc was thinking that BHO would be demolished tonight. As soon as I saw PA go blue 10 seconds after the polls closed I knew we were screwed, and that we really don't know this country anymore.

Posted by: BigDaddyD at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (S4N/h)

1200 1141....
Posted by: ace

Agreed. The abortion/rape/war on women without a good counter swayed enough to vote Obama or stay home. I mean, how the FUCK did asshats like Akin get that far without people knowing he had a loon opinion like that?

I'm a Christian, but this gets brought up every election and EVERY ELECTION a small percentage of idiot women get freaked by it. OhmyGod teh abortion will be illegal, the Republicans don't care if I get raped, etc.

Posted by: Linlithgow at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (Gim9y)

1201 No, there's not. So take it out of the "policy" realm and simply say it's a personal belief. (ON that one, better to not say it at all, but let's get away from this announcing it as the policy you would push on the public, for God's sake.)


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 12:52 AM (LCRYB)

Well after this race you'll get your wish on that because I don't see Socon groups wanting to legislatively fight anymore.

But you shouldn't confuse that with them being the real crux of the loss tonight.

The reality is that we have passed a certain point where a socially moderate candidate like Romney can't win even if only he thinks taxpayers shouldn't pay for someone else's Birth Control.

Posted by: Nate at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (BBlzg)

1202 Mitt the Twitt has called the President to concede. LMFAO. Another idiot Repub moweddown by reality.

Posted by: A vote for Obama is a vote for a sane future for America at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (O1uFP)

1203 Mitt's conceding now. Classily, of course.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 12:56 AM (SKX2R)

1204
Romney's on now.

Posted by: joanne at November 07, 2012 12:56 AM (VNFBf)

1205 Right now, the country is more socially liberal than it is fiscally conservative. But it *is* fiscally conservative. Poll after poll confirms this.

That's simply false. When it comes down to actually voting, people vote for big government, more spending, and no restraint. This isn't a center-right country any more. Its just a nation of people with their hands out blaming the only people trying to stop the destruction for everything that goes wrong.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:56 AM (r4wIV)

1206 I'm off to bed.

Right after I hate on social conservatives some more to compensate the gaping, bleeding hole in my anus my EV predictions tore!

Posted by: ace the butthurt at November 07, 2012 12:56 AM (udTVX)

1207 I don't think a lot of people are really processing this yet.

America just re-elected a guy who doesn't like America. He wants to make it into something it never was.

We are on the verge of bankruptcy and the guy we just re-elected wants to accelerate towards it.

The guy who was just re-elected flat out lies to the American people and the msm helps him.

We are on the cusp of bankruptcy and the American people embrace it.

We are losing the war to Islamic extremism and the American people seem to want us to.

This isn't about an election. This country has become the opposite of the principles it was founded on.

The American experiment is over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 07, 2012 12:56 AM (TMB3S)

1208 Romney just came on to concede and my TV went off. Along with "don't buy the wrong debt" I will advise "Don't listen to losers..."

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 12:57 AM (GJUgF)

1209 @1166 >Well it had better, you have double the population.

Ah, no.

California population = 37,691,912.
Australia population = 22,802,044.
Ratio = CA 1.65x bigger

California GDP (in millions) = $1,936,400
Australia GPD (in millions) = $1,271,945
Ratio = CA 1.52x bigger

(Source: Wikipedia)

And CA has a huge immigration issue thanks to Mexico that Australia doesn't have to deal with...

Posted by: That Guy at November 07, 2012 12:57 AM (LmEvg)

1210 WTF?

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 12:57 AM (uvNSk)

1211 We had turnout. Lots of folks went to vote. Where did their votes go? What happened with all those massively packed polling places that everyone was reporting almost everywhere? Did they just go and look around then leave? They voted.
_________________________

It is awfully suspicious.

How the hell was Obama so far down in EV in Ohio, Hamilton county suburbs voting in record #s, and yet the JEF wins?

Something's rotten in the state of Denmark (ha-58 states! THATS how he won)

Posted by: Marybeth at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (fkaOH)

1212 If businesses had any sense, they'd stop advertising on MSM.

Follow the money.

Just got an email from White House Dossier (Keith Koeffler) saying Romney to concede within an hour.

Posted by: Mayday at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (F3s39)

1213 When Chris Christie runs in 2016 (and he will), I would hope that every conservative out there tells the fat bastard to go fuck himself.

Posted by: RJ at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (QTVh2)

1214 How can whites be our base when we lose all the large lily white states?

And you Ace want starving children to be denied basic health care. I know you have a bunch of passages in Ayn Rand and Hayek but it is still a big deal. Dead children. See it is really easy to play that game. And let's face it the Bible is a lot better at predicting the future than you are apparently. What's that you are always saying about letting the ego cloud your judgement?

Posted by: Sam Haysom at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (kQl8p)

1215 So now it doesn't even matter what the actual vote count was. We may never even get the real data, the full number. Even if something is found out to be horribly wrong, its up to the winners to punish themselves and that's simply not going to happen.

I prayed and prayed for God to have mercy on us. He's not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (r4wIV)

1216 Posted by: A vote for Obama is a vote for a sane future for America at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (O1uFP)

A sane future, like 6 trillion more in debt, several more years of 8+% unemployment, anemic economic growth?

Fine, you can have it. The American people get the government they deserve.

Posted by: Mullaney at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (s8XaI)

1217 It was the SoCons or the libertarians. It's a simple fact: promise enough simple minded people "free stuff" and they will vote for you. I've noticed that when I talk to average liberals or even moderates about economics issues, none of them use numbers in their discussions. They don't even know. You can blame that on schools if you like (a few of us try to actually educate, but an actual education has to be done on one's own time beyond the age of 1 but honestly, people just don't want to put in the effort to know. Ignorance is bliss, right up until it isn't. Ask the Greeks or the Spaniards about it.

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (Tlix5)

1218 Think about it. Someone worse than Carter was reelected. Does not bode well for our side. If we have to keep moving to the left to get someone elected............ we become the left.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 07, 2012 12:58 AM (nwHKt)

1219 Right on Ace... where the fuck did this rape crap come from?

Suddenly, after 30 years of treading lightly on abortion, we have a bunch of clods come out and say crap that even right wing conservatives can't stand by? I hate abortion, and if it were my wife/gf, I'd do what I had to so that we wouldn't need an abortion. But if my wife were raped? Am I going to raise the child of my rapist? That's insane. If the baby has some catastrophic genetic disorder? Am I going to devote the next 5-10 years to taking care of a poor soul that has very little quality of life and doesn't even know who I am? That's equally insane.

I believe that killing a fetus after a certain point is wrong. But I cannot make that call, nor should I make that call for the millions of women who contemplate such a decision every year. As Mother Theresa said, that is between them and God. Because in the end, it's always between you and God. Not you and Obama, or you and Nanny Bloomers. Or you and Billy Graham or Rick Warren. Its just you and the Lord.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 07, 2012 12:59 AM (LN5eJ)

1220 Gary Johnson 2016?

*ducks and runs*

Posted by: The Q at November 07, 2012 12:59 AM (w4fEE)

1221 18, ), not fucking happy face.

Posted by: Aaron at November 07, 2012 12:59 AM (Tlix5)

1222 "1202
Mitt the Twitt has called the President to concede. LMFAO. Another idiot Repub moweddown by reality.

Posted by: A vote for Obama is a vote for a sane future for America at November 07, 2012 12:55 AM (O1uFP)"The likelihood of an Obama voter having a fucking clue about reality is zero point zero.I hope you've got good political connections, douchebag. You're gonna need them to get anything other than a minimum wage job in the coming four years.

Posted by: BS Inc. at November 07, 2012 01:00 AM (P2Ufm)

1223 >>> Like Democrats? Who announce they will raise taxes, spend more,

Christopher Taylor.

You're not in touch with the electorate.

Many, many MANY people find taxing the rich and spending popular.

People like spending, especially on themselves, and especially if someone else pays for it.

The fact that you think these are UNpopular, and as unpopular as staunch pro-life policies, truly underlines how out of touch you are with the electorate.

Be a good Christian all you like. If you're right about cosmology, it's the most important thing anyway. But don't think you understand the electorate.

For you do not.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 01:00 AM (SKX2R)

1224 I bet if every jackass who voted for Gary Johnson had voted for Romney... we still would have seen the vote counts carefully massaged and released to us the way they are. Remember the pre-election rhetoric from the Democrats? "We'll look bad at first but will win it" Gee, how could they have known that?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:01 AM (r4wIV)

1225 Why? What is it supposed to accomplish? There's no going back from this Dave.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor


Does the majority understand how many actual big C Communists are now in power in the Federal Government? I'm not delusional, I'm serious. How many moves AGAINST our constitution have happened? Do you think they will back AWAY from Socialism/Communism now?
We. Are. Done.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 01:01 AM (+paCV)

1226 Maybe we should primary Christie. He's up for reelection next year. Fuck him.

Posted by: RJ at November 07, 2012 01:01 AM (QTVh2)

1227 We gonna debate Abortion...are you serious?

Something smells funny...Wake Up!

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 01:01 AM (uvNSk)

1228
" I don't think a lot of people are really processing this yet.

America just re-elected a guy who doesn't like America. He wants to make it into something it never was. "
That's why I keep hanging around. When that rubber band snaps BACK...

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhhahhha..........

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 01:02 AM (GJUgF)

1229
Well, I could see some type of fraud, but with a D+6 it would have had to be massive and internal to computers with a monstrous amount of people paid off with trillions of dollars and foreign influence. Like that could happen...

Wait. Nah. Its easier to payoff rent seekers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2012 01:03 AM (PHb2k)

1230 I just can't help myself, I have to stare out at the nation and say "My God, what have you done?"

These people just voted themselves into Greece. Its difficult for me to believe that 150,000,000 people could be that unbelievably idiotic and self-destructive. Even a child knows you can't keep taking from a finite source forever. Even an imbecile knows you cannot keep going into debt more than a trillion dollars a year and survive.

The GOP should just roll over and give them anything and everything they want. More taxes on the rich? You got it. Cut the military in half? Done. Create a new citizen army as big as the military and with the same power? Knock yourself out. Take it, take it all.

What difference does it make at this point?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:04 AM (r4wIV)

1231 Lanny davis: "Obama has got to be humble"


ahahahahahahaha

Posted by: phil at November 07, 2012 01:04 AM (QzdcC)

1232 "1214
How can whites be our base when we lose all the large lily white states"

A few more years of "wealth redistribution" from these whites to non-whites will set these people straight. They've had it so good for so long, they don't know reality from a hole in the ground. I already see stories in the NYT about white parents who are shocked that their lily-white kid didn't get into Harvard and they blame affirmative action. It's coming.

Posted by: BS Inc. at November 07, 2012 01:05 AM (P2Ufm)

1233 believe that killing a fetus after a certain point is wrong. But I cannot make that call, nor should I make that call for the millions of women who contemplate such a decision every year. As Mother Theresa said, that is between them and God. Because in the end, it's always between you and God. Not you and Obama, or you and Nanny Bloomers. Or you and Billy Graham or Rick Warren. Its just you and the Lord.

So, I can kill YOU whenever I decide ant that is "between me and God"/. Cool!

Posted by: FederalismIsThePoint at November 07, 2012 01:05 AM (DWz4h)

1234 1164 >>>They voted for Fiscal Populism and they voted for Social Liberalism.

Yup. Yeah, it was a full-spectrum loss, really. They weren't jazzed about capitalism, either, it seems.

Plus, we still haven't dealt with this, but Bush's war policy is furiously unpopular.

Amazingly catastrophic loss in all respects.
-
True.

And due to continuing non-White mass immigration and other anti-White policies, and the undeniable continuing effectiveness of the race card (which is not maxed and never will be), the demographics get worse every year.

You have to struggle to get those demographics moving in the right direction. The other option is to give up and die.

For decades, Republicans have been saying "we haven't reached demographic doom yet," as though that made it OK that they were signing on with liberals to keep moving in that direction.

Well, here we are. Fight for the survival of the Republican Party's White base, or die, no third option.

The odds could have been a lot better if people had been responsible decades ago. But we don't have a specially modified silver DeLorean, so it is what it is.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 01:05 AM (4qa9e)

1235 >>>Suddenly, after 30 years of treading lightly on abortion, we have a
bunch of clods come out and say crap that even right wing conservatives
can't stand by? I hate abortion, and if it were my wife/gf, I'd do what I
had to so that we wouldn't need an abortion. But if my wife were raped?
Am I going to raise the child of my rapist? That's insane. If the baby
has some catastrophic genetic disorder? Am I going to devote the next
5-10 years to taking care of a poor soul that has very little quality of
life and doesn't even know who I am? That's equally insane.

Yup.

Look, conservatives are also against the taking of life, generally, but they make exceptions for war and the death penalty.

To say that we cannot make an exception in the case of a raped woman strikes me as some kind of indulgence in a 100% devotion to strict principle which simply does not exist in other areas.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 01:06 AM (LCRYB)

1236 1130 I don't understand the commenters who say that Obama won't be able to blame Bush in his second term. Of course he'll blame Bush. Why wouldn't he?
Posted by: Scobface at November 07, 2012 12:40 AM (IoNBC)


****************

Bushstein and the daily 2 Minutes of Hate

Posted by: Boomer Redneque, tablet edition at November 07, 2012 01:06 AM (eQnzo)

1237 @1230

I'm with you!

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 01:06 AM (uvNSk)

1238 Well, here we are. Fight for the survival of the Republican Party's White base, or die, no third option.

Its too late. Obama ran on getting white single women and minorities, and he won with it. He ran realizing he was writing off white working men and married women, and it worked. We're past that point. The GOP is dead as a party.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:07 AM (r4wIV)

1239 Christie is like Obama. He won cause people were sick or horrified of the guy before him or the guy running against him. No Bush wars, no Obama. No Corzine implosion, no Christie. I'd say we can get just about anyone elected after obooboo finishes with what's left of the US economy. Akin 2016? (kidding of course...)

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 01:07 AM (GJUgF)

1240 Lightworker,

but how would you do that? it's all fine and good to say "reach out to minorities" but if they want something that you're against (increasing statism, socialism, welfare state, government jobs, etc.) then how do you do so?

Just say "I like you"?

I'm not being snarky. I'm trying to wrap my head around the dimensions of the problem.

The "Coalition of the Ascendant" -- the young, blacks, Hispanics -- want socialism.

Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 01:08 AM (LCRYB)

1241 The GOP should just roll over and give them anything
and everything they want. More taxes on the rich? You got it. Cut
the military in half? Done. Create a new citizen army as big as the
military and with the same power? Knock yourself out. Take it, take it
all.


What difference does it make at this point?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:04 AM (r4wIV)
I'm with you. If you they're going to screw up the country, make sure they do it good and proper. Why fight them, and then get blamed for blocking everything?

Posted by: Mullaney at November 07, 2012 01:08 AM (s8XaI)

1242 1228 - Murcek

Dude, the rubber band is snapped. We wore it out. If we're not snapping back after 4 years of recession, Benghazi, Rev. Wright, Tzars, ObamaCare, Energy dependence, Soak the Rich, and every other scandal that would have brought down any other President, we ain't ever snapping back.

We're not going to win again until we rebrand the party, and until we wrest the mainstream media from the content-starved starry eyed socialists that run it now. Until public discourse can rebound, and until the GOP is no longer the party of Todd Akin, we're not snapping back.

And if anyone plans on sitting on their ass for 4 years and WAITING for it to get better, you've got another thing coming. We can't just weather the storm. We gotta beat the motherfucker.

Posted by: NotSoLoneWolfinNC at November 07, 2012 01:08 AM (LN5eJ)

1243 @1235

But Romney isn't a dictator. The congress and the Supreme court are the only authority on any changes. The population has been manipulated for years over this issue.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 01:08 AM (uvNSk)

1244
"Its too late. Obama ran on getting white single women and minorities, and he won with it. He ran realizing he was writing off white working men and married women, and it worked. We're past that point. The GOP is dead as a party."
So, white men, find all the good "game" blogs and invest in good porn. No sense sleeping with the enemy...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 01:09 AM (GJUgF)

1245 The "Coalition of the Ascendant" -- the young, blacks, Hispanics -- want socialism.
Posted by: ace


You just answered your own question.

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 01:09 AM (+paCV)

1246 Maybe the white working class is tired of working so hard, and wants their free stuff too. Tax the rich till there are no rich no more.......

Must be some reason why (for example) coal mining states like PA and OH went for Barky. Guess they've decided to hop in the wagon instead of mining the coal that fuels that wagon.

Posted by: Boots at November 07, 2012 01:10 AM (neKzn)

1247
The odds could have been a lot better if people had been responsible
decades ago. But we don't have a specially modified silver DeLorean, so
it is what it is.

_______________________________

The Left couldn't get what it wanted from the American electorate, so it imported its own electorate from the third world. Horowitz wrote about this - take a look at the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. And that's just the stated policy on legal immigration.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at November 07, 2012 01:10 AM (Nfpnr)

1248 The "Coalition of the Ascendant" -- the young, blacks, Hispanics -- want socialism.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 01:08 AM (LCRYB)
Exactly. There's nothing to be done, except give them what they want and let them see how spectacularly it will fail. I thought 4 years of Obama would prove it to enough of us. Not so, apparently.

Posted by: Mullaney at November 07, 2012 01:10 AM (s8XaI)

1249
NotSoLoneWolfinNC -

I like your attitude, but the only game to play when you lose the one that just ended is the longer game.
I'm playing to the end...

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 01:11 AM (GJUgF)

1250 Ultimately...things are way worse than most believe.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 01:12 AM (uvNSk)

1251 I don't know why you guys are arguing about what the Republican Party should do or rebrand its self or how to reach voters. You don't seem to get it.

Its over. Give it up. Until the inevitable complete crash happens and we rebuild, there's nothing more to be done. America cut its throat.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:13 AM (r4wIV)

1252
heh. Corzine. I bet he's breathing a sigh of relief tonite. Steal a billion and walk, easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

That's the guy that won the election.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (PHb2k)

1253 What do the children do when they kill all the adults?

"The lord of the flies"

Posted by: Daybrother at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (+paCV)

1254
"Ultimately...things are way worse than most believe. "
Actually, I'll go with Tom Robbins - "The situation was the same as always: desperate as usual..."

Posted by: M. Murcek at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (GJUgF)

1255
#1117 long time lurker
You sound exactly like me. Where are you?

Posted by: OkobojiKathleen at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (i7KmQ)

1256 Hang me from a bridge.

Posted by: Injustice Roberts at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (WBVkh)

1257 Really people like Ace are precisely the problem. Put aside the socon stuff, basically the best way to make a Republican out of a woman is to marry her. But that would cramp Aces style so enjoy your 70% single female Democrats.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (kQl8p)

1258 To say that we cannot make an exception in the case of a raped woman strikes me as some kind of indulgence in a 100% devotion to strict principle which simply does not exist in other areas.
First of all, you are one stupid cocsucker if you think that women have never claimed rape(or wouldn't do so)in order to obtain an abortion. Are you truly that naieve? Do you really believe that the vast majority of abortions in this country are due to rape/incest?

Posted by: FederalismIsThePoint at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (DWz4h)

1259 What everyone should be doing is pulling back and focusing locally. Your neighborhood, your family, your friends, your church. Focus on helping them and surviving with them. Forget the rest of the country. They are not learning, they don't want to learn, and they are beyond teaching and reaching.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:14 AM (r4wIV)

1260 @1249

But...a good history book will tell that you don't bounce back from these types of fundamental changes.....it goes in a cycle. Only ugliness brings "Reset" back to the American Experiment.

Posted by: Jimi at November 07, 2012 01:15 AM (uvNSk)

1261
Meh, the thing to do now is start gaming the system. Fuck politics and what's right. Just look out for yourself.


If it's cheaper to pay the penalty instead of buy heath insurance for your employees do it. Let them worry about it. If you have someone working that you would normally keep and hope things get better, fire their ass. Take every government subisdy you can get your hands on.


I'll probably start building government subisidesed housing. There is money in putting people in slums.


I know one thing, I am done with politics. Takes too much time and we just lost twice in a row do a dickhead.

Posted by: robtr at November 07, 2012 01:16 AM (rTgOf)

1262 America is NOT a fiscally conservative country. That's now an ongoing lie.

The biggest issues for the past several years were debt and employment. We spent more in a shorter amount of time than any human form in the history of Earth. We spent this with the full endorsement of SCoaMF and our "representatives" in Congress. Just spent the fuck out of us as did countless local governments. We're the most heavily taxed industrial nation in the world. And what did the Idiocracy do? They said, "Let's have even more of this!"

"Fiscally conservative country," my ass. Collectively we endorse sticking our heads in the sand, present our credit cards, and say, "It'll all work out. Somehow." We're a nation with several generations under our belt that were reared on never ending credit. It's now a pathology and part of our DNA.

We're entering the parasitic phase. Our debt will not be paid. Quality of life is going to drop - continuously - until outside forces impose confiscatory rules.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 07, 2012 01:16 AM (eHIJJ)

1263 And it wasn't the damn hurricane or Christie. Good lord.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:16 AM (r4wIV)

1264
For those of you thinking that this surely means that we will win in a landslide in 2016 - how did that work out for Detroit?

I'm sure Detroit will start electing Republicans any day now.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at November 07, 2012 01:16 AM (MNWe/)

1265 1214 How can whites be our base when we lose all the large lily white states?
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Would you like to contemplate what Republican totals would look like without the votes of Whites who do feel the pressure of "diversity" and who vote Republican the way Blacks vote Democrat?

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 01:16 AM (4qa9e)

1266
Ya know who the big losers are tonite? Blacks. 15% noted unemployment and they voted for it to get higher. Good luck finding jobs there people.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 07, 2012 01:17 AM (PHb2k)

1267 We're entering the parasitic phase. Our debt will not be paid. Quality of life is going to drop - continuously - until outside forces impose confiscatory rules.

That always takes the form of a tyrant. Always. Sooner than later, as well. It comes on suddenly, by the demand of the people to make everything okay. Take our liberty, take our money, just make me comfortable and happy again, I'll do anything.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:18 AM (r4wIV)

1268 >>> Krauthammer got that Skeletor thing workin' well now...

He's a great guy. I hope he's healthy. Either way, he still has a great mind, even if he was overly optimistic like I was (although a little less so).

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 01:18 AM (SKX2R)

1269 1264 For those of you thinking that this surely means that we will win in a landslide in 2016 - how did that work out for Detroit?

I'm sure Detroit will start electing Republicans any day now.
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Exactly.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 01:18 AM (4qa9e)

1270 Are you retarded? The whites who feel the effects of diversity are almost all the exact same evangelicals you just said weren't the Republicans base.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at November 07, 2012 01:19 AM (kQl8p)

1271
Make me wear pink panties and lipstick.

Posted by: Injustice Roberts at November 07, 2012 01:19 AM (WBVkh)

1272 I'm sure Detroit will start electing Republicans any day now.
We're all in Detroit now. If a horrendous economy and lousy job as president mattered, Romney would be president now. It just doesn't any more.

Frankly I don't know what I'm going to do. I am a writer, but who's going to buy books when they have to burn them to heat the house?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:19 AM (r4wIV)

1273 >>> When Chris Christie runs in 2016 (and he will)

Yeah, as I've been saying for days. For the Democrat party.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 01:21 AM (SKX2R)

1274 Christie will be lucky to survive til 2016. Heavily overweight guys with a high stress job don't have a real big life expectancy.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 07, 2012 01:21 AM (r4wIV)

1275 @1238 - Wow a Repub who actually figured it out. The country is moving to a non-white majority and conservatives have their collective heads up their asses. LMFAO.

Posted by: A vote for Obama is a vote for a sane future for America at November 07, 2012 01:24 AM (O1uFP)

1276 1238 Well, here we are. Fight for the survival of the Republican Party's White base, or die, no third option.

Its too late. Obama ran on getting white single women and minorities, and he won with it. He ran realizing he was writing off white working men and married women, and it worked. We're past that point. The GOP is dead as a party.
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It's still alive, but in the same way it is in California. People forget that even under Communism there were other parties, like the Peasant Party. Everyone just has to remember who's boss, and the non-opposing opposition is allowed to continue to exist.

But on your main point ... why does the Army teach hand to hand combat, when in modern war its all about guns and disarmed is dead? Because war isn't a chess game and you don't get to resign when your situation is terrible; you have to keep fighting, with anything available or with nothing. Politics of the sort that the Democrats are practicing is like war; you don't get to give up and let the other side run things for a while; the cost of giving up is continually less of you and more of people who hate you, till you fight back effectively or you are gone.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 01:29 AM (4qa9e)

1277 Christopher Taylor did you mention that you have medical condition?

Posted by: OkobojiKathleen at November 07, 2012 01:31 AM (i7KmQ)

1278 http://youtu.be/uAsV5-Hv-7U
Make of it what you will.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 07, 2012 01:31 AM (nwHKt)

1279 Christopher Taylor, you don't have to answer me, but I am going to repost this comment.

I really think you are incredibly, massively out of touch with the electorate, and I was being kind by not using the word "reality".

Do you actually believe the point you were trying to make in response to:

>>> I am saying that there are some people who want to announce PLAINLY unpalatable ideas and run on them.

when you said:

>>> Like Democrats? Who announce they will raise taxes, spend more,

?

The ideas you are saying are "unpalatable" are actually extremely palatable to the electorate, like it or not.

You're not in touch with the electorate.

Many, many MANY people find taxing the rich and spending popular.

People like spending, especially on themselves, and especially if someone else pays for it.

The fact that you think these are UNpopular, and as unpopular as staunch pro-life policies, truly underlines how out of touch you are with the electorate.

Be a good Christian all you like. If you're right about cosmology, it's the most important thing anyway. But don't think you understand the electorate.

For you do not.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 07, 2012 01:34 AM (SKX2R)

1280 California has always set the cultural and political trends in this nation. I guess in hindsight we should have realized this was coming for quite some time. We can argue about the fine distinctions between fiscal Con's and social Con's and what minute adjustments we can or should make so we can win the votes.

But we are missing a bigger picture. I am 61 years old now. A native Californian and Vietnam Vet. I have watched the country change culturally to a crude vile place. It is OK for all the young people to imitate gang-prison culture, to celebrate that culture. To play music in your cars to be heard for 6 blocks. To send your kids to college to be indoctrinated into secular humanism and other philosophical errors.

We no longer protect our borders or our laws. The problem is far worse than who we offer as candidates, isn't it? I mean it was OK to have a President accused of multiple rapes and sex acts in the White House, so how far to a President that watched as people under him were murdered?

If we do not address the deep spiritual and cultural rot FIRST we will never again have leaders of courage and honor, we are done as a nation. I have a better hope, but at this time that is all it is...a hope. I do NOT see anything on the horizon that can reverse our course. Maybe it takes something as serious as the dissolution of these states...bankruptcy, Depression like we have never seen, I just don't know, but we are not in a good place and this will probably not be fixed without pain.

Anyone here that believes in God, time to do some fasting and praying, unless God intervenes I think we are done. And who could blame him? 911 only woke up about half the country. This year every part of the U.S. experienced natural disasters...drought (still happening), fire, rare eastern storm etc. These things will not relent, sorry to say.

Posted by: Jehu at November 07, 2012 01:35 AM (cSD32)

1281 1270 Are you retarded? The whites who feel the effects of diversity are almost all the exact same evangelicals you just said weren't the Republicans base.
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No, defining the Republican base as something like "evangelicals" means that it's equally Black and Brown evangelicals, and it's not. The theory that these groups are "naturally conservative" and will save the Republican Party real soon now never works.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 01:36 AM (4qa9e)

1282 Did everyone forget about the Mayan Calendar for Pete's sake? It 2012. It's the apocalypse, and Obama is one of the four horsemen.

Seriously, though, I've been thinking about this for some time now. For those of you not spiritually or biblically thinking, I apologize, but Obama represents the spirit of the world right now. Every cultural context point in our society, from the media to entertainment to educational institutions reinforces it. Why do so many people just conform to the liberal assumptions about the world? Because it is so pervasive, and most people just want to conform. They think they are being so hip and cool, and individual, but they aren't. They are just conforming to the spirit of the world. Someone up thread brought up a good point about Christian conservatives as they were once known no longer exist, because the mega churches have pretty much embraced the liberation theology and socialism. I know lots of Christians who voted for Obama. They hate abortion, but they love redistribution of wealth (caring for the poor and hungry) more. They don't even realize they are being used as useful idiots by the Marxists. They think they are righting the wrongs of the past. And the more they move away from the traditional codes of behavior as encouraged by all the external cultural cues of media and entertainment, the more they accept. A case in point is the way homosexuality is treated. No longer is it an act, it is an identity. Not only do we accept it, but every show on TV has a homosexual character. It's not enough to accept it, nor is it enough to embrace it, no, we must glorify it. This is the spirit of the world now. This is where we are. This is the world that elects such a Marxist posing as an empty suit. Because he is so cool. Because every cultural clue encourages it. Because people desire to conform to the present spirit of the world.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at November 07, 2012 01:37 AM (JcN7j)

1283 607 @ 433 Lightworker

It's your bigoted attitude why the GOP lost. You want to trash countries Hispanics come from, what about Europe? Thought so.

The GOP needs to stop the social issue garbage.
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No, it's the demographics. With an imported liberal electorate, you guarantee a winning edge for liberal politicians and policies, and the bigger the edge gets, the more radical the liberal politicians and policies become.

The people to blame for this are the ones that were for the 1965 Immigration and Nationalization Act, that were for amnesty and open borders, that were for Affirmative Action and so on. They are the ones that built the demographic base on which today's liberal victory was founded.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 01:43 AM (4qa9e)

1284 Ok you are retarded. Of course a party's base has to vote for that party. Plus there aren't black evangelicals there are black pentecostals, but black churches are historical not prone to evangelism. But even excepting you tendentious parsing, evangelicals vote for Republicans at a greater percentage than whites so that would make you wrong on your own terms.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at November 07, 2012 01:44 AM (kQl8p)

1285 Something smells funny...Wake Up!

THIS

Posted by: madamex at November 07, 2012 01:44 AM (+kvQd)

1286 What libertarians don't understand again because they confine themselves to economics and as such are unfamiliar with the Frankfort School is that in America cultural marxism preceded economic socialism. So maybe you could argue that cultural marxism is so advanced that social con resistance is futile, but that is only because far too many libertarians missed the infiltration 30 years ago.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at November 07, 2012 01:47 AM (kQl8p)

1287 1282

Yep!

Posted by: Jehu at November 07, 2012 01:48 AM (cSD32)

1288 1144 So we'll be getting more guns?
Posted by: Mexican Cartels at November 07, 2012 12:43 AM (cKfPM)

Nope, we will

Posted by: rightlysouthern(aim low boys,theys ridin ponies) at November 07, 2012 01:50 AM (nwHKt)

1289 The "Coalition of the Ascendant" -- the young, blacks, Hispanics -- want socialism.


Posted by: ace at November 07, 2012 01:08 AM (LCRYB)


No. They really don't - except for maybe 60% of the young. The rest just hate America, American institutions, and Americans and want to see us suffer and our nation brought to its knees. This is all about jealousy and revenge (and guilt-ridden self-hate from 40% of the young whites), not socialism. Most of these people are far too stupid to understand anything about political systems, nor do they really give a shit. They want revenge and our defeat. Period.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 07, 2012 01:55 AM (X3lox)

1290 1240 Lightworker,

but how would you do that? it's all fine and good to say "reach out to minorities" but if they want something that you're against (increasing statism, socialism, welfare state, government jobs, etc.) then how do you do so?

Just say "I like you"?

I'm not being snarky. I'm trying to wrap my head around the dimensions of the problem.

The "Coalition of the Ascendant" -- the young, blacks, Hispanics -- want socialism.
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Yeah - we're all trying to wrap our heads around the size of this wreck, and what it means.

And you're right about what the Coalition of the Ascendant wants. Also, it is in effect anti-White, because it's been educated that way at great expense. That's a huge problem.

I've got two points I'm sure of though.

1. The Republican Party has to fight for demographic ascendancy and take care of its actual, 90% White constituents. I mean it has to start.

For many years, establishment mouthpiece Republicans like Jonah Goldberg have been saying that the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals are for particular groups of people, and conservatives are for everybody, but nobody in particular. That approach has utterly failed. The side that supported its constituents was rewarded with more constituents, the side that did not was not, and the side that took care to grow its base (not redefine its base while letting its actual base shrivel) has been rewarded.

And besides, people like being on a side. The "for everybody but really nobody" approach has little appeal.

2. I do not want to hear any more that the negative demographic trends are not a big urgent deal because we're not at the end of the road yet.

Here we are in a wrecked car, and the big wall the wreck is resting against has a massage painted on it. It says: END OF THE ROAD.

From now on the demographics can't be an issue someone will have to worry about someday, while practical people worry about how the campaign is run, the economy and the scandal of the week.

Does that sound reasonable for starters, ace?

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 07, 2012 02:03 AM (4qa9e)

1291 All that's left to do now is wait for the collapse. With any luck, once it comes, a lot of Obie's supporters will themselves become part of the body count.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 07, 2012 02:43 AM (F3HO3)

1292 It's not the hurricane. It's the Republican Party's inability to appeal to working-class whites and minorities. Until the GOP addresses the issue, it will continue to lose.

And no, it isn't an emerging socialist movement that has cost the Republican Party the popular vote in 5 out of the last 6 presidential elections. But as long as the base thinks that's the problem, the downward trend will continue.

Posted by: Nope at November 07, 2012 02:47 AM (8wEQf)

1293 The problem with minorities is that too many of them want that aspect to
dictate what kind of goodies and freebies they get, and I'm not sure
that's an idea honest conservatives should be entertaining.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 07, 2012 03:18 AM (F3HO3)

1294 What happened to about 3 million voters who cast ballots for McCain/Palin in 2008? Obama's winning total is going to be about 59.5 million when they finish counting California. McCain got 59.9 million.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at November 07, 2012 06:47 AM (ZVPvD)






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