Brad Thor: I Have It From A Reliable Source In the Chicago Camp That Obama Plans To Declare Victory Early Tomorrow, In Order to Demoralize Romney Voters

As Romney says: Forewarned.

What a dick move. It's such a dick move that a half hour ago, before I read this report, I was just thinking Romney should do it himself.

Thor explains that Obama will trust in the media to carry his message of Complete and Total Domination In the Vote in order to keep conservatives, Tea Partiers, and America-loving libertarians home.

Forewarned.

Remember:


Posted by: Ace at 01:18 AM



Comments

1 What a pig

Posted by: owlpellets at November 06, 2012 01:20 AM (dmEoV)

2

Posted by: owlpellets at November 06, 2012 01:20 AM (dmEoV)

3 Good luck on that BARRY...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 01:20 AM (9+ccr)

4 Wow...first

Posted by: owlpellets at November 06, 2012 01:21 AM (dmEoV)

5 He was tweeting that rumor earlier and I tweeted back that the effect would be to suppress his own vote.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:21 AM (piMMO)

6 He can try...

Posted by: EC at November 06, 2012 01:22 AM (doBIb)

7 And just how would that work?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 01:23 AM (9+ccr)

8 Meaning he will keep voters in the Blue Western States home? What good will that do him? It's in the bag for him in WA, CA and Oregon anyways!!

What a dick.

Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 01:24 AM (DQHjw)

9 >>>And just how would that work?

any candidate statement will of course be much covered. He can just go out and declare victory, say it's now time to heal our partisan wounds, etc.

Then the media repeats it: "Sounds like he knows something."

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:24 AM (LCRYB)

10 Not that I don't believe he's capable of such chicanery but two things...
1. Wouldn't this also effectively suppress his own vote?

And

2. Do you honestly think that someone in the Obama camp is talking to Brad Thor...Glenn Beck's favorite author?

Posted by: Jomba at November 06, 2012 01:25 AM (O4Ytz)

11 >>>Meaning he will keep voters in the Blue Western States home? What good will that do him? It's in the bag for him in WA, CA and Oregon anyways!!

well for one thing it might help Tester win in MT.

But if he did it early enough, he could also discourage the people voting after work in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Missouri... central time places.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:25 AM (LCRYB)

12 >>>Do you honestly think that someone in the Obama camp is talking to Brad Thor...Glenn Beck's favorite author?

celebrity is instant entree with many people.

Hey, Andrew Breitbart tossed back shots with Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:26 AM (LCRYB)

13 Brad Thor is hot, but let's not forget that he totally bought into the Trump thing. Even after it blew up, Thor was still tweeting about how awesome it was going to be come the deadline and Trump would reveal something BIG.

It was actually quite sad when he realized he had been totally suckered.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:26 AM (piMMO)

14 He'll have Joe Isuzu do it

Posted by: owlpellets at November 06, 2012 01:27 AM (dmEoV)

15 He'll have Joe Isuzu do it


****

Ahhhh. Joe Isuzu

We've actually had threads about Joe Isuzu.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:28 AM (piMMO)

16 >>>1. Wouldn't this also effectively suppress his own vote?

No. When people know who's winning it might depress votes across the board, but it disproportionately depresses those who think they're losing.

People don't mind committing an unnecessary vote in a victorious cause. It makes them feel like part of it.

But people will not bother to vote if they think it's futile and it's part of a losing cause.

The whole bandwagon effect (which is Obama's main draw) is predicated on this.




Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:28 AM (LCRYB)

17 I just don't think it would work. I fully believe they would do it.

I just don't think it would work and imagine becoming an election punch line for the next 150 years.

Then again, these cretins have no shame.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at November 06, 2012 01:29 AM (n9kwy)

18 Makes sense. Some handpicked reporter will shove a microphone in his face after his afternoon basketball game and he'll nonchalantly say something to the effect that "Looks real good for us. I'm ecstatic. I always had trust in the American people. Great, great day. I'm looking forward to that party later." Very much his modus operandi.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 06, 2012 01:29 AM (JqOLy)

19 Not to be overdramatic, but if he did that....before the polls closed....and ended up winning, there would be a civil war ....I mean a no-shit, blood in the streets,split countrytype of civil war.

Posted by: Icedog at November 06, 2012 01:30 AM (PTS+l)

20 What a SCOAMF

Posted by: The Peasants at November 06, 2012 01:30 AM (dzCcw)

21 >>>Brad Thor is hot, but let's not forget that he totally bought into the Trump thing. Even after it blew up, Thor was still tweeting about how awesome it was going to be come the deadline and Trump would reveal something BIG.

he's a good guy. Besides, there's nothing wrong with promoting something you HOPE will turn out to be something.

I think a commenter here suggested Trump called an audible. Maybe he WAS ready to drop something like the divorce filings, but was told not to. By, say, Romney.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:30 AM (LCRYB)

22 Hey, Forget Joe! I NEED A JOB!!

This economy is a KILLER!!

Posted by: Bagdad Bob at November 06, 2012 01:30 AM (E7Iyp)

23 I fully expect them to throw every dirty trick against the wall to see what sticks.

Posted by: not the mama at November 06, 2012 01:30 AM (kzCIn)

24 >>>>Hey, Andrew Breitbart tossed back shots with Rachel Maddow.

Still find it hard to believe that this is anything but Thor's wild imagination. He does make a good living coming up with things like this..

Posted by: Jomba at November 06, 2012 01:31 AM (O4Ytz)

25 Sounds like horseshit. Perhaps bullshit. Anyone who believes this is chickenshit to admit how batshit this sounds. They're gonna end up feeling like dogshit, and I'm gonna say - gee, no shit?

Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 01:31 AM (IvvrO)

26 Well he can try to declare victory, but he better have some numbers to back it up...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 01:31 AM (9+ccr)

27 he's a good guy. Besides, there's nothing wrong with promoting something you HOPE will turn out to be something.



I think a commenter here suggested Trump called an audible. Maybe he
WAS ready to drop something like the divorce filings, but was told not
to. By, say, Romney.


****

I'm sure he's a good guy, just a bit more susceptible to rumor than I might have thought.

This whole election should provide good fodder for a new book,

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:32 AM (piMMO)

28 Maybe he WAS ready to drop something like the divorce filings, but was told not to. By, say, Romney.



Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:30 AM (LCRYB)

Another strong possibility is that Trump pulled something out of his ass just to screw with Gloria Allred by stealing her press.

Posted by: not the mama at November 06, 2012 01:33 AM (kzCIn)

29 I don't believe it but ... Romney *could* try to get one hand up on the bat by doing the same thing earlier. But then Obama really wouldn't do it, and would instead (with the enthusiastic help of the media) make Romney look like the dick for doing that. Maybe that's the mind game being played.

Posted by: nobama2012 at November 06, 2012 01:33 AM (6B4ha)

30 To declare victory before the votes are counted would make him look like an arrogant,egotistical dumbass. Oh, I see your point.

Posted by: Case at November 06, 2012 01:33 AM (ZPlWT)

31
Then Mitt should have someone from his camp on every news show and on the radio saying that beware of such a thing.
I think a Chik-fil-A movement is afoot.

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:34 AM (wgmUB)

32

Demoralize the other side you say?
Allot of good it did us.

Posted by: Tokyo Rose, Axis Sally and Lord Haw-Haw at November 06, 2012 01:34 AM (1PE/J)

33 Declare victory and go home.

I am all for Obama making the Democrat war policy his election policy.

Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at November 06, 2012 01:34 AM (Xc+gi)

34 I think we are expecting something like this, but we've been burned before when they prematurely called Florida in 2000. We're ready..

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 01:35 AM (9+ccr)

35 >>>I'm sure he's a good guy, just a bit more susceptible to rumor than I might have thought.

eh, when someone claims they've got something "HUGE," there's no dishonor in believing them. Look, we're looking for upside, game-changers.

By the way, I totally need to buy that Star Trek jacket paul ryan is wearing. It's actually North Face fleece; I already looked it up.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:35 AM (LCRYB)

36 Wait a minute. For a few election cycles, the networks have made a pact not to release exit polls until the polls close at 8 pm my time, Pacific time, llpm Eastern time. Is that now thrown out?

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:35 AM (wgmUB)

37
John Mccain already conceding again, just out of habit.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 06, 2012 01:35 AM (kdS6q)

38
They may be that desperate. AND this may be a way of heading them off?

Sort of like the Palin, "Dump dopey Joe" tweet before the conventionor the "Obama's Racist Speech from 2007," just before the first debate?

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 01:35 AM (zLp5I)

39 Brian Williams and Matt Lauer will make a joint statement from Chris Christie's front porch. Colin Powell will be playing blues harmonica in the background.....

Posted by: owlpellets at November 06, 2012 01:35 AM (dmEoV)

40 Why would you need such a dick move if you thought you were going to win?

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2012 01:36 AM (4cRnj)

41 So let's see here...that's gonna demoralize Romney voters...how?

He's got more to lose out West than Romney does; he could lose NV or cost the Dems a couple Senate seats if Dem voters decide they don't need to bother.


Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 01:37 AM (o+SC1)

42 40
Why would you need such a dick move if you thought you were going to win?


Posted by: Dr Spank at November 06, 2012 01:36 AM (4cRnj)

You just answered your own question...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at November 06, 2012 01:37 AM (9+ccr)

43 I wouldn't put it past the SCOAMF but it won't work anyway - ORCA and all

Posted by: Underdown at November 06, 2012 01:37 AM (a9DB2)

44 Astonishing.

But from Obama, I guess it isn't.

I think we can all move on from hating on Carter, and put the lion's share of that on Obama.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:38 AM (Db+Gl)

45 Early, strong GOP turnout in FL, NC and PA would send that plan crashing to Earth anyway.

So let's hope for early, strong GOP turnout

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 01:38 AM (o+SC1)

46 Hell, I'll declare victory any time! Now if you want!

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 06, 2012 01:39 AM (ypzqs)

47 This early voting nonsense is getting out of control.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 01:39 AM (zrpqj)

48 And I hate Jimmy Carter.

A lot.

Like how you'd hate Charles Logan if Charles Logan for real. Except the Charles Logan actor rocked, and Jimmy Carter most definitely does not rock.

But Obama? He's in Carter's league -- at pole position.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:39 AM (Db+Gl)

49
Another strong possibility is that Trump pulled something out of his ass just to screw with Gloria Allred by stealing her press.
Posted by: not the mama at November 06, 2012 01:33 AM (kzCIn)


And to get in Obama's head before debate #3? Obam is hiding a lot of stuff, and probably because there may be one or two ugly things buried in the hundreds he is hiding.

Trump may have wanted to distract him by using this "I got a secret" ploy?

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 01:40 AM (zLp5I)

50 I like how YouTube has "Romney on Obama voters" (guess what video it is. Guess.) up as the first video on its main page "recapping" the campaign season.

then again Romney is probably losing the 1337 Internetz vote anyway.

Posted by: JDP at November 06, 2012 01:41 AM (8HhF2)

51
So, shenanigans queued up for between 8:00 and 9:00 tomorrow evening?

Pricky move by the Master Prick.

Suck my fat one, you cheap dime-store hood.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 06, 2012 01:41 AM (sv/s3)

52
Actually, I have always thought that the GOP did a poor job 4 and 2 years ago tagging Obama with the Chicago tag.
I was a teacher for three decades, and sadly, I can tell you that the reference to "Chicago politics" is lost on at least half or more of the electorate. You have to spell that out for them, as in Capone (for the illegal crap) because to say "Daley" means absolutely nothing to them. Heck, the last few generations of Americans don't even know the thuggery of the AFL-CIO.
I suppose a more effectivedescriptive phrase for them might be "Tony Soprano shit."

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:41 AM (wgmUB)

53 OMG a dick move from Obama?

The deuce you say.

Next thing you know he'll go off to bed while the CIA is shouting for help in an extended firefight.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 01:41 AM (bxiXv)

54 >>>2. Do you honestly think that someone in the Obama camp is talking to Brad Thor...Glenn Beck's favorite author?

Good point. However forwarned is forearmed, and Obama is a dick, so it fits.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:41 AM (Db+Gl)

55 Obama will fuck it all up. Unless his teleprompter tells him we changed our clocks last Sunday, he's going to claim victory an hour too late. What a SCOAMF.

Posted by: RWBuckeye at November 06, 2012 01:42 AM (o5VCR)

56 This would be an incredibly stupid move for Obama. Which doesn't mean he won't try it. Desperate times and all... But who cares? Just ignore him. Republicans are not stupid and know what's at stake. We'll do find, and Obama will possibly go out as a fool, instead of an unlucky amateur.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2012 01:42 AM (gjIQF)

57 I don't know if this story is true, but this along with OFA robocalls into NYC for volunteers in PA gotv makes them sound like they are desperate and flailing to cling onto any possible win.


Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 01:42 AM (zrpqj)

58 I just got an amazing e-mail from a friend in San Francisco. He lives in the Marina and two recent college graduates who live upstairs (one of them raised in Marin County, the other is from LA) both have Romney bumper stickers on their cars. I lived there for seven years (through the 1996 and 2000 elections) and never once saw a Republican bumper sticker on a car. If it's going that way in SF, I don't think the voting outcomes in states in earlier time zones will provide Obama with any opportunity to make any credible claim of victory.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 06, 2012 01:42 AM (1k4dd)

59
Hey, yeah, don't you love how that Gloria Allred stuff just fell off the map? She was a delegate for Barry, the Bitch.
I so hoped that Meg Whitman would be our governor, but she just wasn't prepared for hard-ball politics. Actually, maybe she just didn't have the temperament for it either, but wow, I would love to have seen her in action in this state.

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:43 AM (wgmUB)

60 How would this even work? There's no point really he could do this where it's late enough for it to pass as reasonable yet early enough to still have an affect on voters in swing states. Not even the media would carry his water if he came out at, say, 9:00 p.m. EST and declared victory because of one big problem: the media wants to be the ones to break the news that someone's won it.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 01:43 AM (sCI7M)

61 Another Obama proclamation is not exactly what I'd call a deterrent to my getting out to vote. But, please, Barry, feel free to send a message to your NV, CA, OR, and WA voters to stay home.

Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 01:44 AM (FcR7P)

62 I swear this is the first time something like this has happened. I usually last longer. You are just to hot Reggie.

Posted by: Barack, Grand Pooba of Goodfellas International, Chicago Chapter at November 06, 2012 01:44 AM (SzAZ7)

63 Four dead in Ben Ghazi.

Posted by: Harold Forkbeard at November 06, 2012 01:45 AM (NIZHJ)

64 No. When people know who's winning it might depress votes across the board, but it disproportionately depresses those who think they're losing.

>>>People don't mind committing an unnecessary vote in a victorious cause. It makes them feel like part of it.

Yeah.

>>>But people will not bother to vote if they think it's futile and it's part of a losing cause.

I hate such people (not really, but FFS, it isn't combat, it's casting a vote; it ain't that hard).

>>>The whole bandwagon effect (which is Obama's main draw) is predicated on this.

Yeah.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:45 AM (Db+Gl)

65 I'm just back from the late night Romney rally in Manchester. He packed the place. Every seat had a body in it. Nose bleeds included. Minus the press area and stages, the floor was wall to wall people. I heard that upwards of 4,000 people didn't make it in. Wow. What an amazing night in NH. I'll be at the polls at 5:00am. I'm hoping to be first in my district to vote. I cannot wait.

Posted by: MrC_5150 at November 06, 2012 01:46 AM (UeuU/)

66
Remember when Trump was scrubbed from the convention because of the hurricane and the lost first day?
Any ideas what he had planned?

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:46 AM (wgmUB)

67
Mention this casually tomorrow,

"Say, did you hear how desperate Obama is? He is going to let slip he is way ahead about 3pm today, because he knows he is way behind. But he is silly enough to try this, in hopes of messing with the independents and the western voters."

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 01:46 AM (zLp5I)

68 Seriously, Obama has not looked like someone who was confident in a plan to hold onto his office.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 01:47 AM (sCI7M)

69 Just saw this elsewhere and was going to post it.

Shitheels.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Barry will filch all the R keys at November 06, 2012 01:47 AM (AZGON)

70 Different side of the same coin, but Carter conceded defeat early in the evening in 1980 -- before polls closed in the Pacific Time Zone, IIRC -- and pissed off the leftists to no end.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 06, 2012 01:47 AM (ZBjRZ)

71 They would have to remove the dog cone that Biden wears to keep him from licking his balls or chewing his feet for him to reach a mic.

Posted by: owlpellets at November 06, 2012 01:48 AM (dmEoV)

72 The SCOAMF commercial is on American Pickers using shots of Troops returning home to their lil girls..

What a fuxin Jackass!!

Posted by: JarvisW in TEXAS at November 06, 2012 01:48 AM (E7Iyp)

73 >>> Not even the media would carry his water if he came out at, say, 9:00 p.m. EST

Err ... dude. WTF?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:48 AM (Db+Gl)

74
#65 I asked someone else who was there after I watched the C-Span video of it, tell me, do you think Ann and Mitt looked like they "knew" something, like they figured they are the next President-elect and his First Lady?
I saw a very happy Ann Romney and a very happy Mitt Romney. They didn't look like people who'd been given bad news or disconcerting news from their team.
I'm not saying the team is right (fingers crossed) but boy they seemed confident.

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (wgmUB)

75 Vote for me, Ohio, and I'll let Bill Clinton handle the next four years.

Posted by: Baraka O'iho at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (FcR7P)

76 Who is Brad Thor?

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (ayPhb)

77 Calling BS on this. Not that, as the article says, it was mentioned (and I wouldn't put anything past the Obama campaign) but I can't see how it would be implemented.

Posted by: Brian at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (cynHT)

78 @68 - He can't even manage any confidence when he shakes me off after a piss.

Posted by: Barack Obama's Dork at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (o+SC1)

79 >>>Not even the media would carry his water if he came out at, say, 9:00 p.m. EST

I'm with Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel on this one:

"Not in our lifetimes have so many in the press dropped the pretense of objectivity in order to help a political candidate. The media are rooting for Barack Obama. They’re not hiding it."

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:50 AM (Db+Gl)

80 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZzlgJ-SfKYE

Posted by: gonzotx at November 06, 2012 01:50 AM (4CQjf)

81 Not even the media would carry his water if he came out at, say, 9:00 p.m. EST

But I will!

Posted by: Reggie at November 06, 2012 01:50 AM (FcR7P)

82
OBAMA IS A DIRTY MOTHER FUCKING COCKSUCKER!

HE IS TRYING TO FUCK OVER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!

BUT TODAY

AMERICAN IS GOING TO GIVE BARACK OBAMA A DIRTY SANCHEZ THAT IS LONG OVER DUE!


That is all.


Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 01:51 AM (ovpNn)

83 74

#65 I asked someone else who was there after I watched the C-Span
video of it, tell me, do you think Ann and Mitt looked like they "knew"
something, like they figured they are the next President-elect and his
First Lady?
I saw a very happy Ann Romney and a very happy Mitt
Romney. They didn't look like people who'd been given bad news or
disconcerting news from their team.
I'm not saying the team is right (fingers crossed) but boy they seemed confident.

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (wgmUB)

Yeah, they weren't crying either.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 01:51 AM (sCI7M)

84 @75 - please tell Bill to get his filthy hands off me

Posted by: Your Twenty-Second Amendment at November 06, 2012 01:51 AM (o+SC1)

85 65 - "I'm just back from the late night Romney rally in Manchester. He packed
the place. Every seat had a body in it. Nose bleeds included. Minus the
press area and stages, the floor was wall to wall people. I heard that
upwards of 4,000 people didn't make it in. Wow. What an amazing night in
NH. I'll be at the polls at 5:00am. I'm hoping to be first in my
district to vote. I cannot wait."

How many were there? I watched it online but couldn't tell.

Posted by: Brian at November 06, 2012 01:52 AM (cynHT)

86 78 @68 - He can't even manage any confidence when he shakes me off after a piss.
Posted by: Barack Obama's Dork at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (o+SC1)



Why does he shake you when he pees sitting down?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 06, 2012 01:52 AM (ZBjRZ)

87 it seems to me most Republican surrogates, and Romney and Ryan, sure look like they really think they're winning.

unless they're all very good actors, they think they're winning.

Obama, I don't know.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:52 AM (LCRYB)

88 19: And there you have it. That would be mission accomplished for Barry.

Posted by: MmmmPie at November 06, 2012 01:53 AM (LZNnE)

89 (mumbling to himself) Is this guy really going to pull off a victory without suspending his campaign? I don't get it. Everybody suspends their campaign.

Posted by: John McCain at November 06, 2012 01:53 AM (FcR7P)

90
From a diary post on Red State;
"
Sunday we warned that the Democrats would dust off their 2004 Election Playbook and engage in all kinds of shenanigans in an all out effort to do whatever it takes to ensure President Obama is reelected.
No sooner had the warning been published, than did the Des Moines Register and ABC News report about absentee ballot irregularities in Iowa.
Somehow a Democrat campaign worker gave his 75-year-old mother the impression that it was OK for her to sign his name on an absentee ballot request form when he wasn’t home. In addition, the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation was looking into unauthorized absentee ballot paperwork in which someone allegedly requested paperwork for an absentee ballot without the voter’s consent or knowledge:
“The DCI has approached paid Democratic Party staff to ask questions about allegations of unauthorized requests for absentee ballots in Floyd County, a party official confirmed. Norm Sterzenbach, the party’s executive director, said a DCI agent spoke briefly to three workers at the Organizing for America office in Charles City. The party’s attorneys then contacted the agent “and said if you need to talk to … any of our employees, have those conversations with our attorneys,” Sterzenbach said…”
Now, Monday evening, we learn that a so-called non-partisan organization was caught shredding Republican voter registrations:

Posted by: gayle in California at November 06, 2012 01:54 AM (wgmUB)

91 I'd just like to finish the night by telling Greg to go fuck himself.

Hey Greg, go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 01:54 AM (arczc)

92

Thank goodness I already voted, I'm saved!

*spit*

Posted by: Meremortal at November 06, 2012 01:54 AM (1Y+hH)

93 Speaking of Thor, this is what is beside me on the coffee table right now. I haven't had a chance to read it yet.

http://flic.kr/p/dr6ZBA

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:54 AM (piMMO)

94
76 Who is Brad Thor?
Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 01:49 AM (ayPhb)


Thor's meterosexual half-brother?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at November 06, 2012 01:54 AM (ZBjRZ)

95 82
Don't forget to vote, Jerry.

Posted by: Enby at November 06, 2012 01:54 AM (ptlfZ)

96 "Obama, I don't know."

He's been looking more tired and angry at every appearance since the first debate.

Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 01:55 AM (LXKJo)

97
Didn't Kerry Try this same shit using the great exit polls?
2004

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 01:55 AM (zLp5I)

98 unless they're all very good actors, they think they're winning.



Obama, I don't know.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:52 AM (LCRYB)

Obama looks tense and confused.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 01:56 AM (zrpqj)

99 87 it seems to me most Republican surrogates, and Romney and Ryan, sure look like they really think they're winning.

unless they're all very good actors, they think they're winning.

Obama, I don't know.
Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 01:52 AM (LCRYB)

_________________

Portman, and Rubio looked almost giddy today.

What the hell is up with that?

I am never playing poker with these pikers if.....

btw--damn it.

Ryans' Star Trek thing--it's RED!!!

Damn it RED!!

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 01:56 AM (r2PLg)

100 Who is Brad Thor?


****

check comment 93

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:56 AM (piMMO)

101 RE: #85

Seating capacity for concerts is 12,000

Posted by: MrC_5150 at November 06, 2012 01:56 AM (UeuU/)

102 And we all know what happens to the new guy in the red....

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 01:57 AM (r2PLg)

103 101 - Thanks (and very nice!)

Posted by: Brian at November 06, 2012 01:57 AM (cynHT)

104 @87 - let's look at it this way. If Romney has some very good internal polling, he's not going to leak that, because he's got 30K on a conference call tooled up and ready to go.

He wants it to be encouraging, but not so good that all those volunteers suddenly remember everything else they could be doing.

So even if he's got the best intel he can buy that says he's, say, +5 in WI or OH, he'd be a fool to tell anyone.


Posted by: Your Twenty-Second Amendment at November 06, 2012 01:57 AM (o+SC1)

105 Any and all early calls or exit polls from the media will and should be shot down with the internet in record time. This is not 2000 anymore. Hopefully with awesome snark and mocking.

That said, I know they will try something, retaining power is all they live for (see Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Obamacare). They care not for regular people.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk says Mitt 303 to 235 at November 06, 2012 01:58 AM (PHb2k)

106 If this 'threat' by the Obama camp is deemed legit by Mitt's people, then Camp Romney can discuss it in front of cameras all day long on Tuesday. Campaign spokespeople can start beating the drum on FOX & Friends, and they can continue discussing it all day long. This all sounds ominous, but I think the Romney people can squash this Obama 'strategy' pretty easily if they want to. And, new media will beat this to death all day long as well. There are no secrets once something hits twitter.

Posted by: Joejm65 at November 06, 2012 01:58 AM (UZuc4)

107 Not even the media would carry his water if he came out at, say, 9:00 p.m. EST


****

So lying, cheating, and seeking to control an election are par for the course, but 9pm is where they draw the line?

really?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 06, 2012 01:59 AM (piMMO)

108 Down, sock. Down, bad sock.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 01:59 AM (o+SC1)

109 104
@87 - let's look at it this way. If Romney has some very good internal
polling, he's not going to leak that, because he's got 30K on a
conference call tooled up and ready to go.

He wants it to be encouraging, but not so good that all those volunteers suddenly remember everything else they could be doing.

So even if he's got the best intel he can buy that says he's, say, +5 in WI or OH, he'd be a fool to tell anyone.




Posted by: Your Twenty-Second Amendment at November 06, 2012 01:57 AM (o+SC1)

THIS!^Just enough to be encouraging but not enough to make people any less anxious about getting the vote out!

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 01:59 AM (ovpNn)

110 Sweet Jesus, I can't take this anymore...

Posted by: Sassy at November 06, 2012 01:59 AM (detCI)

111 The first one to declare victory is the winner, right?

Posted by: Norah O'Donnell at November 06, 2012 02:00 AM (Ks4nX)

112 How many members of the media have a secret obama logo tattooed on their ass cheek?

100 for every picture you can locate!

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 02:00 AM (ovpNn)

113 Jesus, Nate Sliver's machine now has it at 92% odds of an Obama victory.

NC and Florida are the only swing states Romney has a good shot to win.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 06, 2012 02:01 AM (zrpqj)

114 A black man can't declare victory?

Posted by: Toure at November 06, 2012 02:01 AM (4cRnj)

115 How many members of the media have a secret obama logo tattooed on their ass cheek?

It's not on their ass cheek. That's not the fashion these days.

Posted by: t-bird at November 06, 2012 02:01 AM (FcR7P)

116 104
I discovered I have something better to do than drive two hundred miles so I can check and report three postings, if the poll manager in her majesty agrees, and then drive two hundred back. I'll check at the local office. Romney doesn't need to be bothering small-town mountain folk anyway.

Posted by: Enby at November 06, 2012 02:03 AM (ptlfZ)

117 113 - Shocked it's not at 185% by this point!

Posted by: Brian at November 06, 2012 02:03 AM (cynHT)

118 73
>>> Not even the media would carry his water if he came out at, say, 9:00 p.m. EST



Err ... dude. WTF?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 01:48 AM (Db+Gl)

Really? You likely have a close race, the central time zone states will have had polls closed for only an hour, so their vote counts will be small at that point. Obama would look ridiculous if he announced that he had won at 9 p.m. while a ton of votes were still being counted in good amount of swing states, how would the media even spin that? What time did he win Ohio and effectively end any hopes for McCain in 2008? 10:15? And that was a blowout. On top of that, the media wants people to be tuned into their coverage, having the race end early doesn't serve that purpose.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 02:05 AM (sCI7M)

119 Silent Majority, AVENGE ME

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at November 06, 2012 02:05 AM (8HhF2)

120 362 I think you're right on with your analysis ace. I think most of us that remember 2010 as it actually unfolded learned a lesson or two about believing our own over optimistic BS. It's one thing to talk up your prospects as a means of keeping others, particularly those not immersed in the shit of politics, motivated and happy. It's quite another to get high on your own supply.

I've had to give several pep talks today, going over the fundamentals of why our chances tomorrow are excellent. They aren't lies or self delusion or simply some strategem being employed. The comedown from a falsely optimistic view is harder than the prepared mindset. I will not do that since my mental being is unstable enough.

I know we are prepped and mostly ready. We know tomorrow will be tough at times, unforeseen stressors will emerge. We'll get that sick feeling but it will pass as positive info comes in. The fundamentals and history are on our side. In the end the SCOAMF will almost certainly fall and we'll have taken the first of the absolutely necessary steps.

Thanks for all you and the co-buggers do ace. You are all patriots in your own various and demented ways. I say that with true affection!

As for Team SCOAMF trying a dirty trick? Sure. Just as we know that the urban market will be generating extra votes for the JEF. It's normal but it still won't save them. I'd be insulted if they didn't try actually.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 06, 2012 02:06 AM (JRU+g)

121 @112 - We just need an Obama branding iron and a good hot fire.

Old-fashioned open-range style. Rope 'em, pull 'em over, tie up their legs, and hit 'em in the ass with the iron. For safety's sake we should probably pull down their pants first unless they're wearing natural fibers.

Start with Soledad O'Brien?

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 02:06 AM (o+SC1)

122 #113 Silver has 98 percent certainty that Pennsylvania goes to Obama. So overall Romney only has an 8 percent chance to win the election. Waiting for Ezra Klein to update his last article, Klein, "if I told you that you had an 8 percent chance to win a million dollars tomorrow, you would think that was pretty good".

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:07 AM (ayPhb)

123
Nate Silver had Sharon Angle as a lock to win. His puter program is fucked up. Plus he works for the NYT, nuff said.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk says Mitt 303 to 235 at November 06, 2012 02:07 AM (PHb2k)

124 Broken Glass voters are Broken Glass voters.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at November 06, 2012 02:07 AM (KZi9D)

125
The whole bandwagon effect (which is Obama's main draw) is predicated on this. Posted by: ace

Agreed but remember Bucks County Pa and the crowds across then nation that waited in the cold for hours...we know the SCOAMF for what he is and is not. We will not let disinformation deswayed us. He is a liar and he has a heavy army of media liars behind him. We know this. Keep your knickers and out of a twistl Eagles up morons!

Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 02:09 AM (EAgmr)

126 I think we can all move on from hating on Carter, and put the lion's share of that on Obama.
--

Welcome to 2009.

Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 02:10 AM (F3s39)

127 I just remember Joanne Kloppenburg declaring victory with a margin she had against Prosser and laugh to think Obama might do this.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 02:10 AM (M1gmo)

128 I'm using that time as an example. At what point would he be able to come out and do this where it would still have a demoralizing effect on voters in swing states? Colorado's done at 9:00 p.m., right? So it would have to be earlier, probably much earlier to really have any sort of impact. But how would it look to be announcing victory at 8 p.m. or 7 p.m.? I just don't understand how logic and reason would allow people to even buy this from him if he's announcing victory earlier than Reagan ever did.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 02:12 AM (sCI7M)

129 Nate Silver Final Numbers 2012

Pennsylvania 98.8
Wisconsin 97.2
Iowa 86
Colorado 81
Minnesota 99.8
Virginia 81
New Hampshire 86
Ohio 92

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:12 AM (ayPhb)

130 2. Do you honestly think that someone in the Obama camp is talking to Brad Thor...Glenn Beck's favorite author?
--

Not directly. But there are probably moles.

Posted by: Mayday at November 06, 2012 02:12 AM (F3s39)

131 Broken Glass voters are Broken Glass voters.
Posted by: ChampionCapua at November 06, 2012 02:07 AM (KZi9D)

Obama is hoping to discourage the wishy washy sort of decideds.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 02:13 AM (zLp5I)

132 Get the jacket, get the jacket Ace.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 06, 2012 02:14 AM (y2Ojs)

133 If TFG does this, it will be "leaked" Exit Polls at 1500 EST ala John Fucking Kerry in 2004.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 02:15 AM (zLp5I)

134
Remember this is the gang that can't shoot strraight. They fuck up everything they touch. If this is the tactic they tray to use - they will screw that up to. They are screwed and they know it.

Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 02:15 AM (EAgmr)

135 124- words to live and fight by...

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 06, 2012 02:16 AM (1k4dd)

136 This dovetails with a thought that crossed my mind. Nate Silver has now moved Florida to Obama's column (9 point swing from yesterday!) and made Ohio solidly blue. Imagine that Nate is still getting secret internal polls, coordinating with Obama campaign; Nate says he will do this thing for Obama (to suppress Republican turnout and inspire liberal turnout) so as to lay his reputation and livelihood on the line...if Obama will carry through with the complementary plan to declare himself the winner early. Or maybe Nate is doing it on his own in a similar effort to save his reputations, however barely. Or maybe his model really just is that bad.

If there is a larger conspiracy at work, then Nate's substantial and unsupported shift today (seriously, go look at the polls for Ohio and Florida) would at least make sense to me. And that Obama would do something so brazen would seem to make sense if part of a much larger strategy.

Posted by: Crispian at November 06, 2012 02:17 AM (uBMtY)

137 To put it like Kevin @ HillBuzz:
I like Brad Thor, but he's all about fear porn.

Posted by: wankette at November 06, 2012 02:18 AM (qNhTJ)

138 I'm not sure how that's supposed to work. Early? As early in the evening, 8 or 9pm?

So they'd claim victory before any network issues a decision?

Again, that doesn't make sense. It would make them look like fucking cartoons.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2012 02:19 AM (jo069)

139 @136 - I don't think Nate Silver's that influential.

The people likely to pay attention to him are already in the O camp.

If nothing else, the whole polling alphabet-soup has confused everyone so much that no one's going to believe any one poll that much, and to the extent they do I think the only brand that's got that kind of heft is probably Gallup.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 02:20 AM (o+SC1)

140 okshould I buy a victory bottle of champagne or not?

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:20 AM (2Nzn8)

141 129

Nate Silver Final Numbers 2012



Pennsylvania 98.8

Wisconsin 97.2

Iowa 86

Colorado 81

Minnesota 99.8

Virginia 81

New Hampshire 86

Ohio 92


Those are insanely high numbers.

Posted by: Brian at November 06, 2012 02:21 AM (cynHT)

142 I don't buy the story. Obama doesn't need to take this chance. The entire media will be doing it for him from the get-go.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 06, 2012 02:21 AM (1Y+hH)

143 When the map starts bleeding red tomorrow night - it won't matter what they say. It will only be allthe more that pathetic. Take heart lovlies.

Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 02:21 AM (EAgmr)

144 @140 - Champagne, or Molotov? Decisions, decisions...

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 02:22 AM (o+SC1)

145 american spectator article on 2004 and Kerry's Exit Polls BS. Starts on bottom of page 1.


http://tinyurl.com/admf665

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 02:22 AM (zLp5I)

146 This our our day motherfuckers and we will not let it be stolen from us!

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:22 AM (T57vh)

147 I'm so sick of hearing about Nate Silver's analysis. I hope he just gets the fuck out of politics and goes back to baseball after tomorrow.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 02:23 AM (sCI7M)

148 134
Remember this is the gang that can't shoot strraight. They fuck up everything they touch. If this is the tactic they tray to use - they will screw that up to. They are screwed and they know it.
Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 02:15 AM (EAgmr)>>>>>>>>


Good point. It's true. They do one thing right, they f-ck it up by doing three things wrong.

Posted by: Joejm65 at November 06, 2012 02:23 AM (UZuc4)

149 Seriously, the media is fkin crazy, and we are supposed to believe their bs!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:24 AM (2Nzn8)

150 "Those are insanely high numbers."

Yes, with emphasis on the insane.

Like the rest of the MBM (and the American left in general), Silver is betting it all on one final roll of the dice.

It's not going to work.

Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 02:24 AM (LXKJo)

151 - Champagne, or Molotov? Decisions, decisions...



everclear works for both !

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:24 AM (usWYv)

152 151 - Champagne, or Molotov? Decisions, decisions...everclear works for both !
Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:24 AM (usWYv)
everclear is so old school! You must be an 80's guy

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:26 AM (2Nzn8)

153 Here's another thing:

Where, oh where were all the October surprises?

No a single fucking predicted thing came true.

Race riots? What happened to Ulstermann WH insider's prediction of race riots?

Not a single fucking one.

There's a difference between trying to anticipate dirty tricks and believing the drama in your head.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2012 02:26 AM (jo069)

154 TFG's credibility is shot. That's the beauty of his disgusting narcissistic soul. His stratagems are transparent because he's transparent. His claim to being the best at everything? Garbage. There's nothing original about this man or his political style that the best minds on our side can't anticipate a mile out. Clinton knew political strategy. Obama follows Dirk Axelrods advice and then it's off to the party with Jay-Z, Springsteen, Babs Streisand. He's got a lazy mind and any candy-assed stunt like declaring early victory will backfire. His friends don't own the media anymore.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 06, 2012 02:26 AM (JRU+g)

155 #141 I agree, I wanted to post them because I realize now how these pollsters get away with getting it wrong. Does anybody remember or know the final poll numbers of the major pollsters from 2008, maybe Gallup, maybe Zogby but I can't recall the major players.

Nate Silver obviously has too much media scrutiny to get away with getting it wrong and now with a 92 percent overall number, nobody can claim that Silver is correct no matter what happens.

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:26 AM (ayPhb)

156 >>>Get the jacket, get the jacket Ace.

it's kind of sold out. Limited sizes available.

Posted by: ace at November 06, 2012 02:27 AM (LCRYB)

157 @151 - and if used correctly it'd even singe the facial hair right off Axelhole.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 02:27 AM (o+SC1)

158 I think this is what they will try.
From the AmSpec story:

A little after one o'clock, early polling numbers, purportedly from the pool exit polling consortium, began to pop up on the Internet and in e-mails in Washington and around the country.

The early polling numbers are some of the most eagerly anticipated, if highly inaccurate, data on election day, and are widely distributed. Perhaps that was what the Kerry campaign was banking on.

According to at least three sources, one inside the Kerry campaign, and two outside of it, but with ties to senior Kerry advisers, some of the "early polling numbers" were in fact direct reports from Kerry campaign or Democratic Party operatives on the ground in such critical states as Pennsylvania, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, and Wisconsin. According to a Washington lobbyist with knowledge of the numbers, the numbers were packaged together so as to appear to be exit poll results. They were then scrubbed through several sources to land in the lap of sympathetic bloggers who these operatives believed would put the numbers up with little question.

Some of the numbers claimed to be exit polling data that showed Kerry with a 8-1 voter ratio. As soon as the numbers hit the Internet, panic set in.


"It was awful," says a Republican House staffer. "You just felt sick when you saw the numbers."

Within an hour, the real exit poll numbers began to leak out, and while they were considerably better for Bush,

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at November 06, 2012 02:27 AM (zLp5I)

159 Their love of Obama is very similar to their love of Nate Silver. Liberals are all about jerking each other off talking about how great they are, not so much on actual achievement. Silver predicted 47 of 50 states in 08 and was fed information from the Obama campaign. One election that almost everyone calling it for Obama and using insider info got Nate Silver the title of, "bestest poll analyst ever!"

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:28 AM (T57vh)

160 everclear is so old school! You must be an 80's guy


well shit ... thats just mean ! haha

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:29 AM (usWYv)

161 Night . Vote like America depends on it, because it does.
Yuck, obama cried in his speech tonite, have you ever seen this mf cry? Guess he wants an oscar now, already got the peace prize.

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:29 AM (2Nzn8)

162 Nate Silver is just flat out going to be wrong on a ton of thsoe states. Florida is going Romney. Virginia is going Romney. Colorado is going Romney.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 02:29 AM (arczc)

163 So what time approximately should we look to Drudge for the afternoon exit polls?

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:29 AM (ayPhb)

164 Lot's of luck with that crap this time! Great post Ace. Forewarned, indeed! Anyone tweeting this potential yet?

Posted by: and irresolute at November 06, 2012 02:30 AM (DBH1h)

165 Lib acquaintances on FB are in full meltdown tonight, by the way.

One is posting slavery-time Negro spirituals as a sign of what's coming under President Rmoney.

Others are making a tremendous flap about some boneheaded temp in Oregon who tampered with two ballots.

They don't sound very confident, is what I'm saying.

Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 02:30 AM (LXKJo)

166
I CANT SLEEP

SO EXCITED
SO EXCITED
SO EXCITED

If I FAP again
my dick is gonna fall off

CAN'T WAIT
CAN'T WAIT
CAN'T WAIT

4 Bone weary long years about to end!

HAPPY DAYS ARE ALMOST HERE AGAIN!

THAT FUCKIN SCOAMF
IS DONE DONE DONE

D+ELEVENTY THIS MOTHER FUCKERS!


Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 02:31 AM (ovpNn)

167 161 I thought you guys were joking about Obama crying, God that is desperate, does he think he's pulling off a New Hampshire Hillary sympathy card moment?

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:31 AM (ayPhb)

168

165

They can feel what is coming, I know I sure can. I am so excited its 1:31 am here in MO and I don't want to sleep. Finally adults in control again.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:32 AM (T57vh)

169 Some of the numbers claimed to be exit polling data that showed Kerry with a 8-1 voter ratio. As soon as the numbers hit the Internet, panic set in.


____________

Oh crap I almost remember that...

Specifically that 8 to 1 voter ratio.

Was that associated vaguely with a particular swing state?

Off to the googles.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 02:32 AM (r2PLg)

170 yea they fap like crazy here in oregon .... oh .. flap ... sorry

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:32 AM (usWYv)

171 If any of you listen to John Batchelor, tonight from the reporting of Salena Zito, this Pennsylvania thing is real, it really could be won by Romney.

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:32 AM (ayPhb)

172 162
Nate Silver is just flat out going to be wrong on a ton of thsoe states.
Florida is going Romney. Virginia is going Romney. Colorado is going
Romney.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 02:29 AM (arczc)

Its hard to calculate when you have Obama's balls on your face.

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 02:32 AM (ovpNn)

173
*takes off hazard suit*

Kos kids up in arms about Romney campaigning tomorrow. They think he's going to use his nuclear bus to disrupt citizens trying to make their way to the polls.

Oh, that tricky Romney!

Posted by: Meremortal at November 06, 2012 02:32 AM (1Y+hH)

174 They don't sound very confident, is what I'm saying.
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 02:30 AM (LXKJo)

On that account mess with them! They always have something to say, don't they?

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:33 AM (2Nzn8)

175 Obama was crying? Really? How many onions did he jam into his soulless eyeballs?

Posted by: sistrum at November 06, 2012 02:34 AM (SUlmX)

176 One is posting slavery-time Negro spirituals as a sign of what's coming under President Rmoney.
Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland


That's pretty funny actually.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 06, 2012 02:34 AM (jo069)

177 151 - Champagne, or Molotov? Decisions, decisions...



everclear works for both !
Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:24 AM (usWYv)

________________

You can also disinfect your toilet with it--so it's got that going for it.

It's like the Sham -Wow of alcohol.

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 02:35 AM (r2PLg)

178 Ask your liberal FB friends if they need hugs? Reassure them that its ok there will be an election in 4 more years. Be a giant patronizing cock to them... just do it in a polite way.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:35 AM (T57vh)

179 You can also disinfect your toilet with it--so it's got that going for it.


mabye they can use it in the white house in january !

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:36 AM (usWYv)

180 @179 - it's gonna take a whole hell of a lot more than that to get the stench of this administration out of there.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2012 02:37 AM (o+SC1)

181 kinda reminds me of the couch from "coming to america "

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:38 AM (usWYv)

182 Ace, if you go to any election night events where network press will be, be sure to get us several photos of you holding pudding with a well known reporter in the background. Bonus points if its a hot chick from Fox, deductions if its Andrea Mitchell.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:38 AM (T57vh)

183 Yeah, 80's teens know everclear. We are what we grew up with. I was lucky, I grew up with a Reagan, not a obama. Make it so with your kids/grandkids tommorow!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:39 AM (2Nzn8)

184 >>>it seems to me most Republican surrogates, and Romney and Ryan, sure look like they really think they're winning.

Yes.

Also, it's just good leadership to project that air.

Naval captains know this, and so do great business leaders. Romney is explicitly modeling himself after Reagan's leadership.

Finally, I think Romney made a principled choice with Ryan, and made the election about ideas, a real alternative for the electorate.

By doing this, instead of picking someone who is also competent and would have broadened the ticket's appeal on identity-politics grounds like Jindal (who I reiterate is fully qualified), he put it in the hands of the people.

I believe Romney feels genuinely at peace because he made his campaign such a principled one with the people having the final say, and relaxation and confidence have a lot in common.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 02:40 AM (Db+Gl)

185 Looks like it might have been Ohio:


The unnamed reporter asked, “What went wrong with those exit polls?" “I don’t know,” said [Democrat] pollster John Zogby, who relied partially on exit polls Tuesday to declare Kerry the winner in Ohio. “I’m not blaming everything on the exit polls, but the exit polls were terrible.”

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 02:41 AM (r2PLg)

186 everclear and michael jackson they both made me puke

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:41 AM (usWYv)

187 The other thing that we can count on is that if it's a Republican win the Democrats will do their best to spoil the victory party, by delaying concession, by claiming they were robbed, by refusing to vacate the White House as Al Gore did, and in any way they can. That's what the did in 2000 and 2004, and they haven't learned any sportsmanship in the meantime.

The anti-White left is not a loyal opposition; it is a deadly enemy inspired by hate.

Posted by: The Lightworker at November 06, 2012 02:41 AM (V9Vv8)

188 Ask your liberal FB friends if they need hugs? Reassure them that its ok
there will be an election in 4 more years. Be a giant patronizing cock
to them... just do it in a polite way.


Gentlemen, let's not stuff each other's ballot boxes yet. This thing is not over until polling closes, the votes have been counted (and recounted) and the lawsuits are done. Let's not get cocky.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 02:42 AM (YxaXw)

189 179 You can also disinfect your toilet with it--so it's got that going for it.


mabye they can use it in the white house in january !

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:36 AM (usWYv)

Ha!

That's going to take a whole lot of Ever Clear.

Well--off to bed--I'm going to have nightmares about the usual Election Day hijinks from the Dems.

Wonder which variant they'll come up with this time?

Posted by: tasker at November 06, 2012 02:43 AM (r2PLg)

190 Balls: right. I'm actually not much for gloating anyway.

Posted by: GroverMuhfugginCleveland at November 06, 2012 02:44 AM (LXKJo)

191 By doing this, instead of picking someone who is also competent and would have broadened the ticket's appeal on identity-politics grounds like Jindal (who I reiterate is fully qualified), he put it in the hands of the people. I believe Romney feels genuinely at peace because he made his campaign such a principled one with the people having the final say, and relaxation and confidence have a lot in common.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 02:40 AM (Db+
Man you are a fucking piece of work. Why are you on this thread? You really are a miserable asshole!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:45 AM (2Nzn8)

192 Well--off to bed--I'm going to have nightmares about the usual Election Day hijinks from the Dems.



Wonder which variant they'll come up with this time?


Of course the easier question is which variant won't they try?

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 02:46 AM (YxaXw)

193 Last IBD/TIPP poll is out Obama 50.3%| Romney 48.7%
http://news.investors.com/special-report/508415-ibdtipp-poll.aspx

Posted by: Kiana at November 06, 2012 02:46 AM (2rHTH)

194 Hmm, not sure how effective it would be considering it was our side who got burned so bad by that shit in 2000. We DO remember, I think most on our side are still bitter about that, and would be less inclined to givvafuk. I think it would harm JEF's side more than ours.

But what the fuck do I know.

Posted by: tdpwells at November 06, 2012 02:47 AM (7vA7k)

195 Kiana, the IBD poll is D+7. Good news also has Indies going to Romney by 7%.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 02:48 AM (M1gmo)

196 We have new media now with twitter to counteract the legacy media's lies.

Posted by: Journolist at November 06, 2012 02:49 AM (WI2es)

197 167
161 I thought you guys were joking about Obama crying, God that is
desperate, does he think he's pulling off a New Hampshire Hillary
sympathy card moment?

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 02:31 AM (ayPhb)
__________I was thinking about this earlier in the day and wondering if he'd try to pull this out of his sleeve.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 02:49 AM (sCI7M)

198 I just can't trust any of the polls. Their are two things that simple do not make sense.

1) Independents going for Romney in all polls

2)The polls telling us that more people are self-identifying as Democrats than Republicans by a wider margin than even 2008.

Those two things contradict. If independents, the supposed middle, is oging for Romney, why in the hell would the partisan make-up be more Democrats? Just doesn't compute.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 02:51 AM (arczc)

199 theres three kinds of polls. fireman,stipper and political
they all make my dick hurt

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 02:54 AM (usWYv)

200 193
Last IBD/TIPP poll is out Obama 50.3%| Romney 48.7%
http://news.investors.com/special-report/508415-ibdtipp-poll.aspx



Posted by: Kiana at November 06, 2012 02:46 AM (2rHTH)
_____________________________
I remember IBD being the most positive poll for us in '08 so I guess it's keeping its role this time around and being the glimmer of hope for the losing side.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 02:54 AM (sCI7M)

201

193

Yeah just looked at the poll... then scrolled down to look at the blood and guts of it. (party affiliation of 38% Dem, 31% GOP, 32% Ind.) So the Democrats have to be over-polled by 7% to give Obama a 1.6% win. That is a proud last poll to stand by there IBD/TIPP.



Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:54 AM (T57vh)

202 It doesn't make sense Rich because we have all clearly gone INSANE and the only cure is more COWBELL!

Big Bird.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 02:54 AM (M1gmo)

203 I'm in San Diego and am seeing Obama ads nonstop.... the fuck?

Posted by: MmmmPie at November 06, 2012 02:55 AM (LZNnE)

204 Obama Cried

The first thing I remember knowing,
Was how awesome I was growing
And a noodle dish with doggie on the side
Oh! my voice I loved the sound,
To the Commies I was bound,
No-one could change my mind, Obama cried
Such an egotistic child,
From a family, Left and wild,
My Mama seemed to know what lay in store.
Despite all my Sunday learning,
Towards the bad, I kept on turning.
'Til Harvard couldn't hold me anymore.

And I found failure in Ohio doing empty barren halls
Everything was Bush's fault Obama cried, Obama cried
Clinton tried to push me center, but his pleading I denied
That leaves only Bush to blame Obama cried.

Posted by: Splunge at November 06, 2012 02:55 AM (AEAnS)

205 >>>You likely have a close race, the central time zone states will have had polls closed for only an hour, so their vote counts will be small at that point. Obama would look ridiculous if he announced that he had won at 9 p.m. while a ton of votes were still being counted in good amount of swing states, how would the media even spin that?

OK, good points.

I wouldn't consider Brad Thor an unassailable source anyway, not to knock him.

If Rove or Barone was saying it, that would be different.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 02:56 AM (Db+Gl)

206 But I'll add "they would if they could".

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 02:56 AM (Db+Gl)

207 Everything tells us that Obama is going to go down tomorrow. THE only thing keeping his shitty campaign together is the media and THEIR polling.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 02:57 AM (M1gmo)

208 Also, the fuckups with the military ballots are making me ill. Twitchy has the details.

Posted by: tdpwells at November 06, 2012 02:57 AM (7vA7k)

209 And pennywise the clown takes over another thread.

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 02:58 AM (2Nzn8)

210 It seems like many members of the media just can't understand how anyone could not love Obama as much as they do.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 02:58 AM (T57vh)

211
Here's to looking forward to 2 years from today, where I'm lamenting about the 100% Republican governmenthaving gottena bit too carried away with itself, after two hectic years. It will be SOOOO worth it.

I hope somebody somewhere will put together an appropriate Obama "Greatest Hits." Sing it with me! The one where he proclaims that a light will shine down from heaven, and tell you to vote for Barack... the ever-popular bit involving the day the oceans ceased to rise, and the Earth began to heal ... "share the wealth," and the all-important "You didn't build that."

All these things may suddenly be a LOT more fun to make fun of. We can review the bin Laden speech, and count the "I"s - the most self-abusive among us could make a drinking game out of it.

Squeeze in something with the hilarious "Lead from behind", or "Never let a crisis go to waste", and the ever-greasy "saved or created". Maybe then list the 43 czars, or give a final count of how many days the US has gone without a budget. Throw in a few "Green energy quotes", and the time when he dissed the SCOTUS, to their face, during a national speech.

Somebody should have been able to make a jillion dollars, spoofing all that stuff in an SNL-like show.

It'll be great to be able to LOOK BACK on all that stuff. Someday maybe psychologists will be able to explain how the hell that ever happened.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 06, 2012 02:59 AM (Mxt9o)

212 171

I liked listening to John Batchelor recently (even though he ventures into areas like Chinese politics that I don't have much interest in, though maybe I should.) Sort of like an "effete liberal" for conservatives but that isn't a bad thing necessarily. unfortunately he's been replaced in my area with Michael Savage. recently was talking about the Bonus Army in the '30s and implying Obama's gonna turn the military on us. give.me.a.break

Posted by: JDP at November 06, 2012 02:59 AM (8HhF2)

213 206
But I'll add "they would if they could".

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 02:56 AM (Db+Gl)

___________________Yeah, I won't disagree with that.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at November 06, 2012 02:59 AM (sCI7M)

214 No Drew. We are poll deniers. We don't accept topline numbers like we should since they are clearly our betters. How dare we question D+8-11 polls??

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:00 AM (M1gmo)

215 i want my ONT!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 06, 2012 03:01 AM (8MasJ)

216 that was like 6 hours ago red

Posted by: alec at November 06, 2012 03:02 AM (usWYv)

217 Two threads back red

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:02 AM (M1gmo)

218 Has Silver ever explained his methodology in clear terms anywhere? He's baseball stathead, moneyball, and applies that to politics. OK. But what's what? Baseball statheads predict based on past performance, compared to comparable historical trends (ie, Jeter's first five years look a lot like Rose's first five years so use Rose's sixth year as a starting point for Jeter's sixth year). Silver has comparable historical trends (every modern national election), but past performance is lacking. These two guys have never faced each other before. That's where polls come in I guess. As a replacement for past performance. In Silver's analysis, a poll has to be roughly equal to a 500 at bat season in baseball. Clever, for a sophomore.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 06, 2012 03:02 AM (JqOLy)

219 215 i want my ONT!
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 06, 2012 03:01 AM (8MasJ)
Umm you and sam, two threads down. Go!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:02 AM (2Nzn8)

220 NWConservative, they will vote for Obama and they don't know a single person who will be voting for Romney, so how can they be wrong?

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 03:04 AM (T57vh)

221 Their not Drew. We are all insane racists who want to silence women's vaginas.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:05 AM (M1gmo)

222 >>> Also, the fuckups with the military ballots are making me ill.

I made a principled defense of every adult being able to vote, even criminals, and I won't reargue it here. It's by no means a majority view, but several folks with libertarian streaks (including some ex convicts) here got my points, even if they preferred a narrower application of them than I.

However, it boggles my mind that in this (or any) day and age, everything and anything isn't done to let the military vote.

It's infuriating, and they take it calmer than they should. Although that they do so is a credit to them.

For goodness sakes, can't a secure system be made for handling military votes electronically? In addition to getting paper ballots to them?

This should be doable.

I know running elections is a state responsibility, but congress should get involved in a law unique to the military to streamline their voting process, and get the states to sign on, possibly with a constitutional amendment.

Woe betide states' political leaders that don't get on the right side of that issue.

Civilians owe this much to the military.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:05 AM (Db+Gl)

223 Although my wife's vagina told her to vote for Romney...

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:05 AM (M1gmo)

224 Lordy lordy, Sir Loin bin Lying is desperate.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 03:06 AM (4nG/u)

225 Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:05 AM (M1gmo)
222 >>> Also, the fuckups with the military ballots are making me ill. I made a principled defense of every adult being able to vote, even criminals, and I won't reargue it here. It's by no means a majority view, but several folks with libertarian streaks (including some ex convicts) here got my points, even if they preferred a narrower application of them than I. However, it boggles my mind that in this (or any) day and age, everything and anything isn't done to let the military vote. It's infuriating, and they take it calmer than they should. Although that they do so is a credit to them. For goodness sakes, can't a secure system be made for handling military votes electronically? In addition to getting paper ballots to them? This should be doable. I know running elections is a state responsibility, but congress should get involved in a law unique to the military to streamline their voting process, and get the states to sign on, possibly with a constitutional amendment. Woe betide states' political leaders that don't get on the right side of that issue. Civilians owe this much to the military.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:05 AM (Db+Gl)

Why are you not on the ont?

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:08 AM (2Nzn8)

226 I heard women screaming at one of the Romney rallies. They sounded like they were at concert of Rudee Vallee / Frank Sinatra / Bobby Vee / the Beatles / David Cassidy... It was unreal excitement. Screams of delight.

Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 03:08 AM (opS9C)

227 I think the problem with Nate Silver and his polling is that he largely ignores and in some cases probably doesn't see the frustration people have over Obama's policies, so he does not account for them in his polling. If it were baseball stats, it would be like making a prediction based on a players HR record while ignoring his RBI.

Posted by: Drew in MO at November 06, 2012 03:09 AM (T57vh)

228 My boss expressed her first worry yesterday that Obama might actually lose. She actually criticized him for the first time too, and she was a major cultist. If he loses, the left will turn on him. I hope the fucker has good security.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:11 AM (M1gmo)

229
A few thoughts:

(1) Global Warming. A lot of people believe that stuff, because they're "scientists". In logic, that's the logical fallacy of "argument to authority". A lot of people believe the polls, either because they're done by "professional pollsters", or because they say what they want to hear.

The Global Warming scamdoesn't make sense, or agree with reality; neither do the polls. The AGW "scientists" are no such thing, they are political activists. Most of these pollsters are the same, propagandists, to be precise.

(2) Media bias. The Media hopped OFF the "bias" train a while ago. They jumped over to the "Full-blown propaganda, including actuallibel" train. I still can't believe an article I saw on the front page of the Buffalo News, right after Ryan's nomination, entitled "Ryan taken to task for Litany of Lies". It was not only a hit piece, but a pathetic one. A critical read of the article itself told you it was full of shit - you didn't even have to know anything!

(3) It's a cult, and that's scary. That being said, these guys areFINALLYon their way out, having completely exposed themselves as the frauds they are. People have alternatives these days.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 06, 2012 03:12 AM (Mxt9o)

230 And with that, I'm off. Need to sleep for election day.

Posted by: NWConservative at November 06, 2012 03:12 AM (M1gmo)

231 >>>Man you are a fucking piece of work. Why are you on this thread? You really are a miserable asshole!

Because, lou, I was expanding on something ace said on this thread about Romney and associates looking confident.

The way you act, like above just there, you should really look in the mirror about who is an "asshole". Your behavior marks you as someone who very much lives in a glass house one that score.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:14 AM (Db+Gl)

232 *on

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:14 AM (Db+Gl)

233 And peenywise wins, he win!!
See how easy this is?
Really aos, this guy has taken over every thread, kinda like the non-workers in America!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:15 AM (2Nzn8)

234 Re: CBS hiding Obama interview statement refusing to call Benghazi a terror attack.

It's not just the cover-up, it's the comments from "rival networks" claiming surprise and saying they didn't know why CBS didn't cover it.

BULLSHIT. BULL. SHIT.

Everyone but Fox is so far down in the tank they can't see daylight.

It's not just that the assholes have their entire ass on the scale, it's that they lie about it. The whole "we are so objective" act really makes me want to see them all in the gutter begging for change.

Posted by: Ben Ghazi at November 06, 2012 03:19 AM (bxiXv)

235 >>> wins, he win!!

Yeah, well, when you act like an asshole while calling someone an asshole, it isn't hard.

It's doubly not hard when the other person is complimenting and expanding on the virtues of the candidate you both allegedly support, and in a calm way no less.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:20 AM (Db+Gl)

236 The way you act, like above just there, you should really look in the mirror about who is an "asshole". Your behavior marks you as someone who very much lives in a glass house one that score.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:14 AM (Db+Gl)

No! You may or not be an asshole. I live in a glass house, and have so for some time.
My life has not been easy, but I pray for you !

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:20 AM (2Nzn8)

237 But really, why did you not stay on the ont?

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:22 AM (2Nzn8)

238 It doesn't make sense Rich because we have all clearly gone INSANE and the only cure is more COWBELL!

Big Bird.

-----

See I don't even know if I can trust independents going for Romney so hard though. I don't know. The polls tell me they, but the polls also tell me something in exact contradiction with that notion by saying the electorate self-identifies with Democrats by a huge margin. Both of these things are not right and quite frankly neither one of them may be right. The polls just suck all the way around.

Posted by: Rich at November 06, 2012 03:24 AM (arczc)

239 @227

In case you're not trolling, the bigger problem is the certainty of a 500 at bat season versus the relative uncertainty of polling an election. A hit's a hit in baseball. No two ways about it (once the official scorer has ruled anyway.) A guy hit .285. One set of inputs, no arguing. Polls are a mess by comparison. Dozens of inputs, many from interested organizations. That's why averaging is so popular, to clear out some of that noise. And that's OK on it's own terms. But to then use average polling as an input equal to the objective certainty of an at bat (or 500 at bats) seems irresponsible. Why is averaging a bunch of polls just like 500 major league at bats? Never seen that explained, and that's why Silver seems shaky to me. Polls, even in the aggregate, are not as true an outcome as a season's worth of ABs. Apples and oranges, if you'll forgive the cliche.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 06, 2012 03:24 AM (JqOLy)

240 I believe you that your life hasn't been easy, lou, and I wish you well.

Even though I think you've been a bit of a dick (even though you're a girl), I get that the shots were fired in both directions. I appreciate that you're going to pray for me nonetheless. That's sweet of you.

Life hasn't been a bowl of cherries for me lately either.

While you may not hate me, many people here do. They can put to rest their concerns on that score, because I'm unlikely to be a thorn in their side for long.

You went the "settle down" route, and are now busy loving your husband and kids. Good for you.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:24 AM (Db+Gl)

241 237
But really, why did you not stay on the ont?

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:22 AM (2Nzn


Er......'cause Robert and I are having a thrilling chat about horse liniment there?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 03:25 AM (kaalw)

242 Listening to nate silver is like asking the fishmonger if the salmon is tasty today. It would have to be crawling with maggots for them to say anything negative about their product.

How is it that a declared partisan has become the disinterested arbiter of political forecasting, while working for the NYT? If his model said Romney was a sure thing, what would he gain by reporting that? Nothing.

Try a little min-max strategy here. The maximum he has to lose is if he calls it for R and it comes up O. If he is wrong the other way he will explain it away next week and all will be forgiven. In fact, he will have solidified his position and probably get a raise for lying.

Listening to him is like asking a thief if he stole the thing. It's a waste of time even talking about it.

Posted by: endeavor to persevere at November 06, 2012 03:26 AM (zZJJp)

243
Lady Thatcher in a phone conversatiom with President Bush Sr.
Regarding the first Gulf War: " Now is not the time to go wobbly"

Eagles up morons = now is not the time to go wobbly

Posted by: Cheri at November 06, 2012 03:27 AM (EAgmr)

244 >>>But really, why did you not stay on the ont?

I was debating a non-election related topic on another website for a long while, and I was reading and following some of the comments on this thread that interested me. I still need to read Ace's prediction post in it's entirety, because I think he's one of the smartest minds in this business.

I do find it ironic, though, that I'm usually closer to him than the commentariat here in how I see the election, but I am hated to such an extreme degree. That is ironic.

But I assume there's a reason for it, and other than a lot of people here being imbecilic bullying assholes, it's my personality.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:29 AM (Db+Gl)

245 THIS! IS!



ELECTION DAY!!

Posted by: fluffeneidas at November 06, 2012 03:32 AM (5ggkP)

246 But I assume there's a reason for it, and other than a lot of people here being imbecilic bullying assholes, it's my personality.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:29 AM
I find it ironic that you come to aos!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:34 AM (2Nzn8)

247 >>>I find it ironic that you come to aos!

I think Ace is one of the smartest bloggers in all of politics, so why would you find that ironic?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:37 AM (Db+Gl)

248 Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 03:25 AM (kaalw)

Hugs and hugs. Going night night, you know I will be here tommorow come Hell or high water!
Love ya, Mean it!!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:39 AM (2Nzn8)

249 Looks like Obama's ride is here for the trip to his retirement -- http://tinyurl.com/ca42lq2

Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 03:39 AM (kaalw)

250 All I can say is that I do not see the same enthusiasm for Obama here in moonbat central, Philly. Not even close. In 2008, Center City looked like Jonestown....people wearing Obama shirts, displaying his picture in their house windows, and in one case that I know of, hanging a picture of the first family in their cubicle.....now, you'd never know that an election was going on. Nobody is talking about the election, despite the screaming headlines on the newsstands. It's really strange. Those that do vote will overwhelmingly vote for Obama, but I just don't get the sense that he will (legally) approach his 2008 total.


Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 06, 2012 03:39 AM (yJYwC)

251 >>>Love ya, Mean it!!
Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:39 AM

Thanks, lou. That may not be an inflection point in my life, but in this very dark time it's a welcome ray of light and humanity.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:41 AM (Db+Gl)

252 I find it ironic that you come to aos!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:34 AM (2Nzn
Pretty Sure Samlies Clamcheeze is just ronery.

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 03:42 AM (ovpNn)

253 Well Sam, some folks don't appreciate the fact that you're concerned, yes concerned and troubled about Romney's chances.

I however, do appreciate it.

You're doing well to suppress the moron and moronette vote and and not letting them get their hopes up.

The DNC thanks you for your efforts.

Posted by: Tom Daashole at November 06, 2012 03:42 AM (E/D0i)

254 TODAY WE ELECT A NEW PRESIDENT!

AND IN A FEW SHORT WEEKS WE CAN SEE THE FINAL INSTALLMENT OF THE EMO GIRL WITH NO ACTING ABILITY IN LOVE WITH A GAY VAMPIRE WITH NO ACTING ABILITY WHO HAPPEN TO BE FRIENDS WITH A GAY WEREWOLF WITH NO AQCTING ABILITY OR SHIRTS CHRONICLES AND BE DONE WITH THAT STUTTERING CLUSTERFUCK OF A MISERABLE MOVIE SERIES FAILURE TOO!

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 03:45 AM (ovpNn)

255 252 I find it ironic that you come to aos! Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:34 AM (2Nzn Pretty Sure Samlies Clamcheeze is just ronery.
Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 03:42 AM (ovpNn)

Well, better make up your minds. But seriously, I
gotta go vote tomorrow. And I do Love ya, assholes.

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:45 AM (2Nzn8)

256 Michelle Obama is beginning to wondering Who is gonna pay for her lobster dinners now!

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 03:46 AM (ovpNn)

257 Sam! Any more dating tips?

I've got the Binaca and polyester down pat but I want to cover all my bases.

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at November 06, 2012 03:46 AM (E/D0i)

258 @242

Could be. But the veneer of legitimacy he puts on his work gets under my skin. Why does baseball stat analysis apply at all to political prognostication? "Because it's all numbers" is not a good enough answer when the question is between a collection of quantifiable true outcomes (baseball stats) and a collection of semi-interested variables (opinion polling). It's insulting, really.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 06, 2012 03:46 AM (JqOLy)

259 nite Lou

I/m off to bed to.

VOTE MOTHER FUCKERS!

LIKE YOUR COUNTRY AND WAY OF LIFE DEPEND ON IT!

Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 03:47 AM (ovpNn)

260 I will never get the line of thinking, seemingly reiterated by hundreds of commenters, that saying it's a *tight* race with turnout efforts essential, and attacking Obama viciously on his weakest points on this and other blogs, including damning questions that haven't even been asked quite that way by even the conservative media, while lauding Romney, equals suppressing the GOP vote.

If that suppresses your vote, you've got bigger issues than you know.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:47 AM (Db+Gl)

261 G'night, lou's! Sleep well, and waken to a better tomorrow!!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 03:48 AM (kaalw)

262 Oh wait, you were saying, "Love ya," to someone else.

Well, that makes more sense.

Goodnight anyway.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:49 AM (Db+Gl)

263 259 nite LouI/m off to bed to.VOTE MOTHER FUCKERS!LIKE YOUR COUNTRY AND WAY OF LIFE DEPEND ON IT!
Posted by: jeremiah GOD Bless America with a Mitt Romney Presidency wright at November 06, 2012 03:47 AM (ovpNn)

Your good people! vote!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:50 AM (2Nzn8)

264 >>>Sam! Any more dating tips?

Avoid it.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:50 AM (Db+Gl)

265

"I liked listening to John Batchelor recently (even though he ventures into areas like Chinese politics that I don't have much interest in, though maybe I should.)"

I'd kill for a show on China. WTF is up with John Batchelor. He goes out of his way to drive the program into the ground.

John: We're talking with Alystair Von Byeaurgandie with the London Times about a very chilling and potentially dangerous goat herder strike in the Fergana Valley of Tajikistan. Alystair Von Byeaurgandie, good morning, how are you? It is morning where you are, right?

Alystair: Yes, yes, good morning to you.

John: Alystair, good morning. We have a pair of Fergana Valley goat herding tribes that are at odds with one another as we speak: The Kistakuzkiocks and the Qwabibalanacks have opened a bloody war between themselves, and I want you to start with the Kistakuzkiocks first because the Kistakuzkiocks have a very interesting story here, Alystair. What do we know about the Kistakuzkiocks and this war?

Alystair: It may come to a surprise to your listeners in America, but the Kistakuzkiocks....

And this is when you lose consciousness.

Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 03:50 AM (IvvrO)

266 262 Oh wait, you were saying, "Love ya," to someone else. Well, that makes more sense. Goodnight anyway.
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:49 AM (Db+Gl)

No, I Love ya!. Hope you have a good day tommorow! God Bless, Sending you a hug!

Posted by: lou's a girl at November 06, 2012 03:52 AM (2Nzn8)

267 But seriously, I
gotta go vote tomorrow. And I do Love ya, assholes.

Posted by: lou's a girl

But you can't go vote! What about Sam's concerns and troubles about Romney's chances?!

You need to blow off voting and stay here and comfort him!


Posted by: Tom Dasshole at November 06, 2012 03:52 AM (E/D0i)

268 Cheers, lou.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 03:52 AM (Db+Gl)

269 Sam really has the Eeyore "woe is me and we're all doomed" routine down pat.

The way he makes threads all about him is magnificent!

Now I'm concerned that he's raised the "concern troll" bar too high.

How am I supposed to compete with that?!

dammit....

Posted by: Concerned Troll at November 06, 2012 03:59 AM (E/D0i)

270 If enough ppl find out about this then I wonder if dickhead in chief will still go through with it.

Neidermeyer's Dead Horse, I think you're right that it will only supress O's own vote. Those LAZY Dems will think, "Oh, good I don't have to go out in the cold and vote now." That's the trouble with the Dems making their base so LAZY w/welfare, food stamps, free phones, affirmitiveaction. They created lazy asses who probably don't want to get off their butts to get to the polls.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 04:02 AM (KL49F)

271

"I will never get the line of thinking, seemingly reiterated by hundreds of commenters, that saying it's a *tight* race with turnout efforts essential, and attacking Obama viciously on his weakest points on this and other blogs, including damning questions that haven't even been asked quite that way by even the conservative media, while lauding Romney, equals suppressing the GOP vote."


That's because you have the * around "tight." Take out the * and it makes perfect sense. Sometimes when the solution is right in front of your face like that you miss it. Happens to the best of us. No harm no foul.

Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 04:04 AM (IvvrO)

272 Here we go, off to ORCA central.


VICTORY!!

Posted by: fluffeneidas at November 06, 2012 04:04 AM (5ggkP)

273 Texas Ranger, assuming for the sake of argument I was a Democrat plant and all of the attacks I've made on Obama here and elsewhere -- and they've been blistering (and on point) -- and praise for Romney -- and it's been glowing -- were a cover to establish my bona fides so I could suppress the GOP vote ...

... are you really under the impression that AoS commenters matter so much in the grand scheme of things that it would have any noticeable effect?

Ace has posted in the past that he barely has any effect, and he has quite the readership, but he does what he can. I give him more credit and say that he influences others who have a bit more impact (because he's wicked smart, and probably more important, funny when on a tear).

But.

Really.

The Obama campaign's hiring people to tear Obama a new asshole on Benghazi, etc., to demoralize the all-so-important AoS commenters (by insisting it's a tight race, even without the asterisks)?

If you believe that, OK then. What can I say?

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 04:11 AM (Db+Gl)

274 Can't sleep. I'll be at the polls in less than 2 hours to make sure tfg gets to spend the rest of his days anywhere BUT 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

When I return home, I'll spend the morning cooking up vats of pudding.

Tonight there is a pudding orgy at my house. Youz all coming over?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 06, 2012 04:14 AM (53riN)

275 Is it weird that I will vote for F. Ann Rodriguez (D) as County Recorder?

She seems to have been doing a credible job, so far as I can tell...

I trust her.

Have no idea who the fuck Bill Beard (R) thinks he is but "Never heard of you!"


Posted by: Deety at November 06, 2012 04:18 AM (QG3g9)

276 275
Is it weird that I will vote for F. Ann Rodriguez (D) as County Recorder?


She seems to have been doing a credible job, so far as I can tell...



I trust her.



Have no idea who the fuck Bill Beard (R) thinks he is but "Never heard of you!"



Posted by: Deety at November 06, 2012 04:18 AM (QG3g9)

I voted for Brian Sonntag (Dem) last time around for State Auditor (WA); he was doing a good job, even GOPers had good things to say about him and I wanted to reward that.


Posted by: Linlithgow at November 06, 2012 04:22 AM (Gim9y)

277 Dear Republic-
Today is a big day for you -
GO KICK SOME FUCKING ASS! (and dip it in some pudding).

Posted by: Linlithgow at November 06, 2012 04:25 AM (Gim9y)

278 Oh, incase you Morons think I have been lax, in paying little attention to more local races....

YOU ARE WRONG!!!

Always thought that CPA Beth Ford would be a more AWESOME Pima County Treasurer than fucking Richardson!


Posted by: Deety at November 06, 2012 04:27 AM (QG3g9)

279 I wouldn't even think of voting for anyone who still associates with the Dems as a matter of principle. All dems are scum. Anyone with any integrity would have left that party years ago. The dem party needs to be totally done away with after it has supported such a devastating assault on America and Americans as with the Indonesian America-hater.

Sorry, but there is no walking back from the serious and irreparable damage that that party and everyone in it has inflicted on our nation. They are despicable, lying scumbags. ALL OF THEM.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 04:28 AM (X3lox)

280 Thank you, Dave .... Now go shave that nasty little, Uncle Adolf 'satche off.

Posted by: Sen. Lingle at November 06, 2012 04:32 AM (IS2o0)

281 Samwise, not being flip and this is not aimed at you personally, but I really don't give a shit.

Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 04:33 AM (IvvrO)

282 fluffeneidas, so if I push my little triangle - I get you?

Posted by: Sen. Lingle at November 06, 2012 04:34 AM (IS2o0)

283 Ick.

Don't get a new position.

Going to have to write in MickeyvMouse!

Posted by: Deety at November 06, 2012 04:34 AM (QG3g9)

284 So, POP, tell us how you really feel.....



Heh.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 06, 2012 04:35 AM (kaalw)

285 Barack Obama, mmm mmm mmm!! I'll never fucking forget that shit.

Posted by: bobs country buffet at November 06, 2012 04:37 AM (wYF/q)

286 OK, on my way to a polling place, to do the People's Work.
Anybody know where that Russian sub is?

Posted by: comatus at November 06, 2012 04:44 AM (qaVK+)

287 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 06, 2012 04:28 AM (X3lox)

ITA. I vote "R" all the way down the ticket whether I've heard of said "R" or not. Period. Dems are either traitors or stupid for still being a Dem. I don't trust traitors and I don't trust stupid.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 04:44 AM (KL49F)

288 Hah!

Every bullshit office Like "Constable" that is uncontested, I shall give to....

Gary Johnson, on a Write-In!!!

Posted by: Deety at November 06, 2012 04:55 AM (QG3g9)

289 265 Posted by: Texas Ranger at November 06, 2012 03:50 AM (IvvrO) - John Batchelor is like NPR for conservatives. I can only take so much.

Posted by: Baldy at November 06, 2012 04:57 AM (opS9C)

290 218 That is exactly my point, Silver's model is impossible because no two presidential elections are the same so basing your model on historical trends is impossible. There are never two elections with exactly the same metrics within a point or two.

Posted by: War69.com at November 06, 2012 04:58 AM (ayPhb)

291 William Shatner salutes George Lucas
http://youtu.be/MDIBchVxSmE

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 04:58 AM (4nG/u)

292 I just read about Project ORCA and am convinced that NO amount of voter depression on Obama's part will work. It sounds amazing!

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 06, 2012 05:02 AM (KL49F)

293 into to shower to get ready to hit the polls at 6 am. i'll be outside in Kenbridge VA with our newest youngest registered voters--twins, no less

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 06, 2012 05:04 AM (HNwOT)

294 Good morning rons. All set to shower shave and head to my polling place. Handing out voter cards and attempting to be a good ambassador for the GOP. I'm gonna stop at the store and buy donuts and share them with the Obama people. It screws up there minds.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 05:09 AM (3Y7RV)

295 Dixville notch is tied. 5-5 with very low turnout.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 05:14 AM (3Y7RV)

296 Hey, can we call Him president early gutsy call.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 05:15 AM (3Y7RV)

297 People should e-mail everybody they know in the Western states and tell them this might happen so they are on their guard.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2012 05:17 AM (zfFcz)

298 GET IT UP RON'S, IT"S ELECTION DAY!!!!!! Drop your cocks and grab your socks, stow those muffin buffin appliances, new panties for everyone. Todays the big day. Lets work like we are going to a re-education camp if we fail.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 05:17 AM (3Y7RV)

299 bring it home Virginia!

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 06, 2012 05:18 AM (HNwOT)

300 yay. Eagles lost. damn, that's a good omen. (actually, that's a good omen for everything)

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 06, 2012 05:20 AM (HNwOT)

301 300 yay. Eagles lost. damn, that's a good omen. (actually, that's a good omen for everything)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 06, 2012 05:20 AM (HNwOT)

Mybe the dog killer will lose his job and go away.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 05:21 AM (3Y7RV)

302 @290

I think Silver's on relatively solid ground re historical comparison. Baseball statisticians deal with that all the time, and are able to control for it. It's the aggregate polling as a 500 ab season (for example, could be a 300 inning season for a pitcher or some other stat) that bothers me. A full season of abs produces a true, objective, quantifiable outcome...a batting average. Can the same be said for slapping together a bunch of more or less randomly selected polls and taking their average? Why is that a responsible equation? To flip the comparison, it's as if Silver predicts a player's full season batting average based off of 8 or 10 or 12 different scouts batting practice observations. Some of them saw bp for two weeks, some watched for a month, some assumed an average center fielder on defense, some assumed an above average shortstop on defense, etc. Silver takes all that, averages it and predicts a batting average for a full season. Not one game played, not one live at bat...it's ludicrous.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 06, 2012 05:23 AM (JqOLy)

303 Way past bedtime for me in CA. Go get 'em East Coasters! We need a strong opening.

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at November 06, 2012 05:23 AM (YxaXw)

304
The hour hour has come, mateys.

May ye legs be free of termites, the grog be bountiful and let the buggerin' be ye prize, says I.

Good luck and let yer flintlocks sing ajaunty tune. Send that Indonesian junk down to Davey Jones' locker!

Yarrrrrrrrr....

Posted by: otho at November 06, 2012 05:24 AM (yBF/9)

305 i bet the dog killer will find somewhere else to play.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 06, 2012 05:24 AM (HNwOT)

306
Off to the shower.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 06, 2012 05:25 AM (tOkJB)

307 It would have been funny if the AOS decision desk site had the Dixville Notch 5-5 votes up there already. But it doesn't.

Posted by: Splunge at November 06, 2012 05:25 AM (AEAnS)

308 I'm at my polling place (Fairfax, VA). The line is wrapped around the building, and the polls don't open for another thirty minutes.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 06, 2012 05:35 AM (JCB77)

309 Almost feels like justification for flooding all of the lib-dominated message boards we are on saying they just called PA for Romney. But that would be wrong...

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 06, 2012 05:37 AM (X/+QT)

310 DEWEY WINS!! DEWEY WINS!! Says scoamf with the propeller hat on.....
Fuck him and the nate silver he rode in on......

Posted by: Knightbrigade at November 06, 2012 05:38 AM (Q76p7)

311 Leaving in 5 mins to vote Romney/Ryan, 'rons -- here in bluest NYC. Let's take this country back.

Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at November 06, 2012 05:42 AM (lAdCl)

312 As that Rosie the Riveter poster said, "We can do it!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 05:43 AM (4nG/u)

313 This is really cool. I'm on the floor of the RomneyWar Room. I'm playing in Ohio. Warren and Wayne counties. Any morons playing in those counties with me today?

Posted by: Truman North at November 06, 2012 05:49 AM (3jbJh)

314 Sounds like horseshit. Perhaps bullshit. Anyone who believes this is
chickenshit to admit how batshit this sounds. They're gonna end up
feeling like dogshit, and I'm gonna say -- gee, no shit?

Screw you, buddy! Don't water-based mammals count?

Posted by: whale shit at November 06, 2012 05:51 AM (nkiQM)

315 In line at my voting place in Loudoun County, VA. Already over 50 people waiting.

Posted by: Pete at November 06, 2012 05:52 AM (JyTRJ)

316 Gettin' my coffee on. 4:51 CST here. Will be in line with my Gadsden hat on when the doors open.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 06, 2012 05:54 AM (6Zy+s)

317 "The procedure for combining these three factors is modestly complex, and is described in more detail here. But, in general, the weight assigned to a poll is designed to be proportional to the predictive power that it should have in anticipating the results of upcoming elections."

The money quote from Silver's "methodolgy"page at NYT. The second sentence especially is disgusting. A sentence devoid of content. Useless.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 06, 2012 05:55 AM (JqOLy)

318 OSP is ready to shove off to his polling place. See you folks this evening for some pudding, bacon and to tell winston Wolf to STFU. Go get em kids.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at November 06, 2012 05:56 AM (3Y7RV)

319 Well breakfast is in the offering.
NaNoWriMo is now just shy of 7.500 words
Need to take cat to the vet.
Vote.
Then ride out the manic storm.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 05:57 AM (4nG/u)

320 @317- and that nic is one of the many reasons I love it here.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 06, 2012 05:57 AM (6Zy+s)

321 occam's brassiere? When you hear jugs outside your window, think Rosie O'Donnell and not Christina Hendricks?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 06, 2012 06:00 AM (nkiQM)

322 Anna, I'm envious at your word count. Mine is.... lagging. I'll hit it hard after today, I promise! Too many distractions

Posted by: zeera at November 06, 2012 06:00 AM (3dXwx)

323 Cartoon Network first cartoon is - Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam run for public office.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 06:03 AM (4nG/u)

324 Give life your best shot no matter what they say
Yeah we're all speeding towards our judgement day
It's not the dates son it's that small thin line
Do you want it on your tombstone
You almost tried

Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 06, 2012 06:03 AM (HEWhR)

325 Zeera, guess I better not tell you Merovign's word count then.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 06:03 AM (4nG/u)

326
Off to the poll.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 06, 2012 06:05 AM (tOkJB)

327 Now is the time for all good men to come to the Sid of their country.

Go forth and vote, east coast morons!! We are all counting on you!!

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2012 06:09 AM (gjIQF)

328 Kick em in the nadular region morons.
And not a lead leg flip kick.
Bring that back leg all the way from Boston!

Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 06, 2012 06:11 AM (HEWhR)

329 Sid? Damn phone. Sheesh.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2012 06:15 AM (gjIQF)

330 Awesome.

Morons on ORCA: the program goes live at 630 ET. Don't worry if you can't get in yet.

Posted by: Truman North at November 06, 2012 06:16 AM (3jbJh)

331 We're supposed to believe this ... from BRAD FRICKIN' THOR?

I call b.s.

And candidates don't "declare victory". News orgs 'call' the outcome, and the losing candidate 'concedes'.

So, I call b.s. squared.

Gonna be watching Fox and following the morocommentary here tomorrow night. I expect you guys are gonna put on your big boy faces in hopes of not crying like little girls ... and me, I'm hoping you make it through tomorrow night without sobbing yourselves to sleep. I'm hoping ... but I ain't expecting.

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at November 06, 2012 06:17 AM (21TJo)

332 In 2004, they were calling it for Kerry early based on exit polls. How did that work out for them? I think the conservatives and libertarians in this country already know that the MSM is an arm of the DNC. People who are already willing to crawl over ground glass to vote against Zero know what a desperate pack of liars the Obamabots are and won't buy it..

Posted by: Donna V. at November 06, 2012 06:17 AM (7OHl8)

333 LASue, lol

The Not-so-smart phone, more dangerous to the English language than CNN.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 06:21 AM (4nG/u)

334 One vote in for Mitt and one for George Allen in Loudoun County, VA. At least 100 people in line by the time the polls opened. Were still lined up out the door when I was done.

Posted by: Pete at November 06, 2012 06:21 AM (JyTRJ)

335 Time to nut up or shut up!

Posted by: Tallahassee at November 06, 2012 06:23 AM (i7B17)

336 Broken glass in a pool of salt water Donna V.
Followed by an alcohol shower.
Bury the tyrant wannabe statists.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at November 06, 2012 06:24 AM (/tk/V)

337 People are so quirky. My Dad was a WWII vet. He voted and instilled in me the DUTY to vote.

I can't believe the actual percentages of people that vote. They sit the butt on the couch and rationalize why they don't have to vote.

Stupid crap..like..
1.) My Wife is voting for Obama, I am voting for Romney so we just cancel each other out! (He got punked..the wife snuck out on lunch hour and voted for Obama, her favorite liar and then she lied about voting.

2.) I live in Texas, its going red..why go through the Hassle?

Hell I live in Texas too, but while working in China I took trains, taxi's etc to drop my ballot off at the consulate. It was an all day deal!

I don't care if its 299, 999, 999.5 (the 0.5 is Chris Matthews) to 1 Obama vs Romney..get out there and vote people!

We can send this punk home! To Kenya!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at November 06, 2012 06:25 AM (JwwM6)

338 Today's blog post -
http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2012/11/vote.html

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 06:27 AM (SkUim)

339 "If that suppresses your vote, you've got bigger issues than you know."

That's exactly right. All in all, I'd rather be the sadder but wiser voter.

Posted by: GalosGann at November 06, 2012 06:35 AM (T3KlW)

340 Geebus, Primodial!

YOU sound like a lunatic!

She's not my cup of tea, politically but she has been doing a fine job over 10 years, keeping elections fair in Pima County.

And offering up an ideal for the rest of this State!

Even when the vote don't go the way I think is needful, I'm not gonna get all butt-hurt and cry "foul!".

Plenty of fucking Libtardarians becom Paultards, to glower at,these past few fucking years.

Posted by: Deety at November 06, 2012 06:41 AM (QG3g9)

341 Please do, Mr. Obama. I'm in NY. I'm pretty well resigned that my vote doesn't really count. I'm going to go vote for Romney in a little while, but I feel its more a duty than a pleasure. Wiping that smug, presumptuous grin off your face after pulling a stunt like this would be all the pleasure I'd need.

Posted by: Bill Dalasio at November 06, 2012 06:48 AM (sxfXR)

342 http://annapuna.blogspot.com/2012/11/vote.html

Exactly, even if that image is (as I'm certain you know) former USSR propaganda. But what the hay, turn it against 'em!

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 06:48 AM (SKX2R)

343 Jane you ignorant slut, Google 'Rosie the Riveter'

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 06, 2012 06:53 AM (SkUim)

344 Rosie the Riveter was "former USSR propaganda"?

Wow....just...wow.


Posted by: Bratticus Wurst at November 06, 2012 06:54 AM (E/D0i)

345 Before I head out to vote, I have to ask.

Sam, any concerns about the election today? *guffaw*

Posted by: Bratticus Wurst at November 06, 2012 06:56 AM (E/D0i)

346

26Well he can try
to declare victory, but he better have some numbers to back it up...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg

Sounds like something
Chavez would do.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 06, 2012 07:08 AM (Rrc6j)

347 As with everything Obama does this will backfire.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 06, 2012 07:08 AM (hlUJY)

348 CBS radio news commentary at 6.30 pm Monday evening beat obama and the rest of msm to the declaration of obama the winner. 5 minutes of pro obama spin, upbeat campaign, polls in O's favor, etc., 3 minutes of down in polls, bare glimpse of winning, last ditch effort to reach what few undecideds there are.

Posted by: joe at November 06, 2012 07:10 AM (eqY5g)

349

71They would have to remove the dog cone that
Biden wears to keep him from licking his balls or chewing his feet for him to
reach a mic.

Posted by: owlpellets

Hey,
can I get sprinkles on my dog cone?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 06, 2012 07:10 AM (Rrc6j)

350

71They would have to remove the
dog cone that

Biden wears to keep him from licking his balls or chewing his feet for him to

reach a mic.



Posted by: owlpellets



Hey,

can I get sprinkles on my dog cone?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn

That would have been
better without the sock fail there Dirks.
Call me.

Posted by: The President Unelect of the United States at November 06, 2012 07:13 AM (Rrc6j)

351 Two words: Broken Glass.

Going to vote right now.

Working GOTV this afternoon in MI.

Celebrating R/R victory tonight.

Posted by: Macaroon at November 06, 2012 07:15 AM (bw8pg)

352 It would be a mistake based on what I have seen today.

People are pissed-off at this President. That type of move would simply drag more fence sitters or people who didn't vote to the polls for certain.

Posted by: marcus at November 06, 2012 07:33 AM (GGCsk)

353 This comment really may have value for someone's life and if you're inclined to check it out, I think you'll be glad you did, if only for your entertainment and knowledge. But first ...

>>> That's exactly right. All in all, I'd rather be the sadder but wiser voter.

I don't think sad politically is what you want to be in advance of a big vote, but I think letting smoke be blown up your ass is a bad idea. Even if you were wrong, it never hurts to think of the election as close and turnout as critical.

Now on to the somewhat related part I think someone here might enjoy or benefit from.

I was thinking about all of the debates I've seen over the years, and the first ones I can remember watching live were during the '96 election.

Remembering the Vice Presidential debate that year, I thought Admiral James Stockdale was senile when he made his, "Who am I? Why am I here?" comments. That's certainly how the media portrayed it.

However, a few years ago, I realized he wrote these philosophical papers

http://goo.gl/Rr146

AFTER that debate. His mind was very sharp. During the debate, Stockdale had issues with his hearing aid and somehow compensated by trying to make a philosophical rhetorical flourish.

But that's not even the key point of my comment.

I'd really like you to download and read those papers by the heroic Stockdale themselves, available on the US Naval Academy's website. You'll find them on that page above under the heading "Admiral James B. Stockdale". They are entitled "The Stoic Warrior's Triad" and "Master of My Fate".

Stockdale, as you may know, was the highest ranking officer to be a Vietnam POW. When asked in an interview who didn't survive being a Vietnam POW, he said it was the most optimistic prisoners:

"They were the ones who said, 'We're going to be out by Christmas.' And Christmas would come, and Christmas would go. Then they'd say, 'We’re going to be out by Easter.' And Easter would come, and Easter would go. And then Thanksgiving, and then it would be Christmas again. And they died of a broken heart."

Stockdale DID believe in a kind of "Disciplined Optimism", which was a chapter title in one of his books.

This is sometimes called "The Stockdale Paradox" in philosophy and goes like this:

---

You must retain faith that you will prevail in the end, regardless of the difficulties.

AND at the same time ...

You must confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be.

---

Anyway, that's food for thought. I know flat-out optimism is very popular in American culture, but Stockdale drew heavily from Greek philosophy, especially Stoicism and especially from Epictetus. Stoic ideas are more popular in American war colleges than in society writ large because of the enormous and very real dangers and hardships warriors face. As many of you veterans and family members of veterans know all too well.

I'm just going to try to gently suggest that those who aren't as optimistic as you are, who may even seem downright brutal in their analysis of the present situation, are not necessarily an enemy trying to dispirit you. They may be your ally with a different philosophical approach to problems.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 07:33 AM (SKX2R)

354 >Thor explains that Obama will trust in the media to carry his message



Sadly- and you know why- the networks shall reserve it unto themselves to decide just who is and who isn't the winner

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 06, 2012 07:34 AM (8sCoq)

355 Poor little GOPers are going to lose.

Its almost like letting a bunch of fundies take over your party is electoral poison to the mainstream of society.

4 more years losers. Enjoy it because I know I'm going to.

Posted by: John at November 06, 2012 07:37 AM (HL0e9)

356 >4 more years losers. Enjoy it because I know I'm going to.

Posted by: John at November 06, 2012 07:37 AM (HL0e9)

Fuck off. BTW, I enjoy your Mom's videos.

Posted by: Jones in CO at November 06, 2012 07:40 AM (8sCoq)

357 Correction: The first debates I remember were from the '92 election, which of course included the Perot-Stockdale ticket.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee the 3rd at November 06, 2012 07:43 AM (SKX2R)

358 The important thing for Team Romney and company to do is spread the word over this nonsense quickly. Blunt any impact among the faithful.

Of course, I don't suppose it occurred to Team Obama that declaring victory early would keep their own supporters from the polls. "Oh, he won, so he doesn't need my vote, and I don't need to go out now." I sincerely hope such a sleazy action would backfire on them like that. It would be the perfect capper to a crappy four years.

Posted by: SpideyTerry at November 06, 2012 07:46 AM (GPIio)

359 Silver's model is impossible because no two presidential elections are the same

How he gives these insane levels of confidence based on polls with 9% response rates remains a mystery to me.


Posted by: @PurpAv at November 06, 2012 08:02 AM (U/njD)

360 Lifesmanship applied.

If this happens, I hope our military men and women are prepared to launch a mutiny. I know I would if I were still in.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 06, 2012 08:03 AM (Br3eE)

361 But when will Gary Johnson declare victory?

Posted by: TexasJew at November 06, 2012 08:29 AM (6/bOE)

362 The Florida panhandle people remember that shit in 2000.
They won't fall for it.

Posted by: TexasJew at November 06, 2012 08:32 AM (6/bOE)

363 Just voted in Delco, PA. (which went for Obama in 200. Tons of Republican signs & people handing out Republican ballots. No Dems that I could see. The polls opened at 7 am; the line at 7:09 was at least 50 people long.

Posted by: Kimberly at November 06, 2012 08:33 AM (cXvTc)

364 Va, Pennsylvania, NH Ohio NC and Florida (along with the other CST swing states)adds up to a Romney win

Posted by: TexasJew at November 06, 2012 08:35 AM (6/bOE)

365 @361 That better be (SARC ON)

Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at November 06, 2012 08:53 AM (z1C58)

366 Here in N.E. FL most everyone I know has already voted. When I went in last week, the place was packed. I expect a huge turnout today.

The energy and enthusiasm for R/R is stronger than '08.

I'm seeing R/R Fire obama signs all over the place from St. Augustine to Jax and back down toward Flagler county.

Posted by: willy at November 06, 2012 08:54 AM (kUCQ4)

367 Conservatives love to whine

Posted by: occam at November 06, 2012 09:02 AM (gvdcW)

368 I fully expected the MSM to have called the election for Barry by now.

Posted by: Paladin at November 06, 2012 09:14 AM (lP8dE)

369 Why not?... it's not like he can make a bigger ass of himself than he already has.

Posted by: EP at November 06, 2012 09:26 AM (T0FzQ)

370 Obama's been declaring victory for 4 years, despite demonstrable failure. Why would that dissuade anyone from voting against him now and pulling the Romney lever? I really doubt the folks who showed up in droves in 2010 will sit home at the behest of the media.

Posted by: red speck at November 06, 2012 09:26 AM (9/Ug/)

371 love to whine ok

Posted by: pipe fitting at November 06, 2012 09:27 AM (Ua/h9)

372 and pulling the Romney lever? I really doubt the folks who showed up in droves in 2010 will sit home at the behest of the me

Posted by: pipe fitting at November 06, 2012 09:28 AM (Ua/h9)

373 called the election for Barry by now.

Posted by: steel pipe at November 06, 2012 09:29 AM (Ua/h9)

374 A bull shit propaganda move will not keep a single conservative, tea partier or America loving citizen home.

All of us will crawl over broken glass to vote ovomit out.

Posted by: sablegsd at November 06, 2012 09:35 AM (AKS75)

375 In Kansas, most of our voting was accomplished with the primary, deciding which Republican got the nod for the lesser positions. It's the upper positions- State Senator, State Representatives- that are in play. Being clumped into a district that includes Topeka means having to outvote the useless lumps of handout drool that want Democraps promising more goodies and redistribution. President? For Kansas, that's a given. That's why we don't see many ads here except on national feeds.

Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at November 06, 2012 09:36 AM (z1C58)

376 Seen elsewhere:

"I am predicting an early and significant lead for Obama. Until Republicans get off work and start hitting the polls in droves."

Posted by: chiefjaybob at November 06, 2012 09:42 AM (EeCxw)

377 Keep the TV off until 8pm so this lie cannot impact you.

This is the American Revolution 2012 version. Do not fire until you see the whites of their eyes.

Pray.Vote.Pray and encourage others to do the same. Never give up today. There is a force unseen before. We are that force.

Blessings to you all. I am confident we will win.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, raving lunatic about Benghazi at November 06, 2012 09:58 AM (baL2B)

378 Quick--somebody run the EC numbers if Dems in the West stay home.


Posted by: PJ at November 06, 2012 10:08 AM (DQHjw)

379
Even though the MSM may give us the bogus exit poll scam to try and depress repub turnout, at least I dont beleive Fox will fall for it this time. I remember they tried the bogus exit poll scam during the Scott Walker recall, but Fox stated that while the exit polls were showing Walker might lose, they didn't beleive them, and were insisting on seeing some real returns to back them up. I hope they will do the same this time.

Posted by: richard40 at November 06, 2012 10:37 AM (bGbrU)

380 Are conservatives still crushing on Thor?

Posted by: occam at November 06, 2012 10:46 AM (LQtD4)

381 Obama is a communist.

Posted by: RE at November 06, 2012 12:02 PM (QTVh2)

382 Democrats are cheaters.

Posted by: Glitchus at November 06, 2012 12:12 PM (Ifvyi)

383 Are conservatives still crushing on Thor?

Posted by: occam at November 06, 2012 10:46 AM (LQtD4)
Don't know.I do know that your mother "crushes" on my "hammer" every night.

Posted by: Thor at November 06, 2012 12:15 PM (E/D0i)

384 do they actually think we are as stupid like as they are???? no way

Posted by: linda at November 06, 2012 01:07 PM (ve26a)

385 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at November 06, 2012 01:09 PM (9XBK2)

386 Well good and matbe he will have the same outcome as his buddy weird al

Posted by: Patriot in AZ at November 06, 2012 01:34 PM (labQE)

387 <<What a dick move.>>

Yeah, but not a surprising one...this is the same guy who opened "The office of the president elect" the day after he won last time.

Posted by: Sgt. York at November 06, 2012 01:44 PM (UU6uJ)

388 Fine - let him do it. Then he can embarrass himself by having to apologize and admit defeat and show that he is a moron. If he wins, then he should win by honest means. Otherwise it is an empty victory. Fraud may be the winner in this election.

Posted by: Mariowen at November 06, 2012 01:45 PM (qydQq)

389 It must be hard for Obama to face a Christian challenger with a straight face. He has told so many lies.....making this 'dick' move only proves how dishonest he has been for 4 years and will continue to be.

Posted by: Marilyn at November 06, 2012 02:19 PM (mNuxs)

390 I was at my polling place at 6:45 am and never in the 7 years we have lived here have I seen such at turn out the line was around the block. What a great sign even in a red state.

Posted by: Cindy at November 06, 2012 02:22 PM (x+IYQ)

391 What scares me more than anything is the Vegas odds. obummer went up to 31/2 to 1 overnight. Those guys don't mess around when it comes to their money! We are doomed if that piece of swill gets 4 more years...

Posted by: southernshade at November 06, 2012 02:24 PM (YSH2f)

392 It might not have worked for Tokyo Rose, Axis Sally or Lord Haw Haw, but it sure did work for me!!! The American people folded their tent in 1975, wouldn't help the Saigon government, and it was "liberation" time, when our beloved socialist liberators got to put hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese in re-education camps and a million more put out to sea on any boat, raft or barrel they could find, because a few well-placedfellow-travelers managed to demoralize the American people.

Posted by: Hanoi Jane at November 06, 2012 02:28 PM (7UgQv)

393 I hope that Romney has the backbone to contest the vote in Ohio (machies posting votes for O only) and every other state Nevada ,Florida...where ever these bogus machines are located.....because if he contests it he may get a somewhat fair count that will leave Obama wondering why he cheated in the first place.

Posted by: Wayne at November 06, 2012 04:34 PM (JWVJ5)

394 If he does, this will open up a whole new keg of worms. Just let him try, and it will be the last lie he tells as president.

Posted by: Sarge at November 06, 2012 05:35 PM (vNWY+)






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