Father of Slain SEAL Tyrone Woods: Hillary Clinton Vowed "We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video."

This guy is not in jail for a parole violation. He is in jail because he's a convenient scapegoat for Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's failure.

He also wants to know who gave the order to not rescue his son:

When I heard that there’s a very good chance that the White House as well as other members of the military knew what was going on, and obviously someone had to say, “Don’t go rescue them.” Because every person in the military, their first response is, “We’re going to go rescue them.” We need to find out who it was that gave that command.

Audio of the interview at the link.

Posted by: Ace at 05:46 PM



Comments

1 First.

Posted by: dandalo at October 25, 2012 05:48 PM (GAJm6)

2 The SOB has a tape from the drone that watched. He added it to his drone-snuff film collection. Bank on it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at October 25, 2012 05:48 PM (GBXon)

3 Whoa First

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 25, 2012 05:48 PM (eMjRH)

4 Damn

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at October 25, 2012 05:48 PM (eMjRH)

5 Hillary's next move has to come pretty quick.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 05:49 PM (uf1hZ)

6 And I hope and pray that after the election RR have the cojones to actually prosecute people in TFG's administration.

Posted by: dandalo at October 25, 2012 05:49 PM (GAJm6)

7 facebook is deleting the links to lars larson

Posted by: alec at October 25, 2012 05:49 PM (usWYv)

8 Eh, it's he-said, she-said. Who's more believable, the Hildebeast, or a SEAL's father?

Posted by: bonhomme at October 25, 2012 05:49 PM (3Znbm)

9 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable pussy.

Posted by: Adam at October 25, 2012 05:49 PM (/YJYi)

10 Mike, what happened to 98% Anger Free?


Lol

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 25, 2012 05:49 PM (GEICT)

11 Ok, so where are the arrest fans now?

Still think it was kosher?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2012 05:50 PM (DKxu1)

12 Obama has used more drones than any president

Posted by: TITS101NY at October 25, 2012 05:51 PM (P3ww6)

13 Constitution, never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 25, 2012 05:51 PM (l3RZ9)

14 This is treason.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 25, 2012 05:51 PM (ZPrif)

15 Evil. Pure evil.

Posted by: Andy at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (Hw3Gh)

16 And don't get me on shitty handshakes...

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (uf1hZ)

17

Can't listen to the audio. Will end up crying, again.

I'm so tired of this being swept under the rug by 99% of the media.

So tired of it...

Posted by: 12 days at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (LpQbZ)

18 Panetta has already owned it.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (r2PLg)

19 Ok, so where are the arrest fans now?

Daily Kos?

Posted by: fluffy at October 25, 2012 05:53 PM (O6q63)

20 Wow - just wow. This whole thing is coming unglued at light speed. Could this be why Obama is suddenly (re) developed his penchant for using profanity publicly? The flop sweat is now palpable. The heat behind the scenes on Obama and his minions just be red hot - and they deserve every degree they get.

Posted by: volfan at October 25, 2012 05:53 PM (RTb48)

21 Turn out the lights... The party's over...

Posted by: M. Murcek at October 25, 2012 05:54 PM (GJUgF)

22

This is similar to the picture of O'A$$h0le with the bat next to his desk.

Trying to act "big." But, they do not even know what "big" means (i.e. integrity, honesty, respect, admiration and decisive action).

Posted by: 12 days at October 25, 2012 05:54 PM (LpQbZ)

23 The problem goes to State and to the White House--

again--

on May 3, 2012 Ambassador Steven's request for a DC-3 to scramble limited US security from Tripoli to the consulate was-

denied.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:54 PM (r2PLg)

24
HA! Would love to see them try to come and arrest me! HA!

Posted by: Las Vegas Fundraiser Dinner at October 25, 2012 05:54 PM (F6KtL)

25 These families need to hire a big name lawyer quickly.

Posted by: Othered at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (EuW9O)

26 Unless Hannity or Greta or someone gets this man to tell his story, no one will hear it. Lars larson?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (9+ccr)

27 Lt. Col. Wood--during testimony also said that a request for armored vehicles was--denied.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (r2PLg)

28 This is just one of the parents. What will the grieving survivors of the other three murdered Americans say once they've processed the fact that their sons were ignored for seven hours and left to die a horrible death at the hands of beasts.

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (jm/9g)

29 He's right. Even if it was just some bureaucratic snafu that left the ambassador and other under protected there is absolutely NO excuse for not acting when the reports of the attack came in. Any normal person would have said "we have to save them NOW!", but these cold-blooded politicians were calculating the cost to our relationship with Libya vs. American lives, and we now know which had greater importance. Disgusting.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (yGJj+)

30 The empire is crashing around the administration.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (UK9cE)

31 >>I was back there at Andrews Air Force Base when the bodies were shipped
in. We were in a room, a building, a little ways away from the hangar
where the speech was given, and for about a half hour the President was
there, the Vice President was there, Hillary was there, Colin Powell was
there.

What the hell was Colin Powell doing there?

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (SwjAj)

32 Ok, so where are the arrest fans now?
Daily Kos? Posted by: fluffy


No, we had an unfortunate number of Morons here that were arguing that his arrest was warranted and not something we should worry our pretty heads about.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (DKxu1)

33 This is sickening. And to hear that fat slob Beckel just say that all this scrutiny about Benghazi is just a conspiracy.....how I hate these people. This should be the front page headline on every newspaper in the country. This should be the lead story on every news broadcast.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (lTVJy)

34 Cannot speak due to hate overload.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (GrtrJ)

35 I had to order another ton of contempt just now. It's back-ordered too.

Posted by: Dept. of Accuracy Dept. at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (+I8Mq)

36 28
This is just one of the parents. What will the grieving survivors of the
other three murdered Americans say once they've processed the fact that
their sons were ignored for seven hours and left to die a horrible
death at the hands of beasts.

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (jm/9g)

Well both the Mothers of the murdered Seals told Romney note to "politicize" it. Not the Mother of the asst to the Ambassador, but the media largely ignored her story...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (9+ccr)

37 What the hell was Colin Powell doing there?


Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (SwjAj)


Reggie was busy.

Posted by: Colin Powell at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (/YJYi)

38 The video was never a convenient scapegoat. The video was central to their plan. This is about abridging the first amendment and instituting a de facto State religion.

Covering for Benghazi Is icing on their cake.

Posted by: Truman North at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (1/eF6)

39 Panetta has already owned it.Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (r2PLg)Which f'n generals were present, or knew of it in real time? Fire the fucking political shitheads.

Posted by: Invictus at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (OQpzc)

40 As the ACLU does it's See-No-Evil, Hear-No-Evil, Speak-No-Evil regarding the renditioning of an American for speaking his mind ( via Film ).

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (GMrPF)

41 Oh man, if we convict this guy, we're worse than Italy with their earthquake scientists.

Posted by: JDTAY at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (a0nis)

42 People, you need to remind the less-informed about these things.

They get their news from CNN or Yahoo or the paper, and they basically have no idea what's happening.

We can be as sick as we want about how treasonously the MFM is handling the news, that doesn't inform anyone except ourselves.

I get it, though, I am seriously not looking forward to my upcoming mostly-lefty family gathering (my family is oddly split that way - kind of one-side-left one-side-right).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (bxiXv)

43 Special Prosecutor: DID YOU NOT ORDER THE CODE RED?

Hillary Clinton: YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DIDN'T ORDER THE CODE RED!

Posted by: General Woundwort at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (06lNq)

44 Just updated my Ohio numbers to include that Time poll and the new Rasmussen poll:

O+2.13% - Current RCP Average
R+8.83% - Average using the 2004 turnout model
O+0.64% - Average using the 2008 turnout model
R+5.61% - Average using the 2010 turnout model
R+4.89% - Average using the 2012 registration model
R+2.72% - Average using the D+3 turnout model

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (pfm/k)

45 Those poor, poor parents and other family members and friends of those slain. It must make it even more wrenching that the MSM does cover for the obama admin.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (u1lkY)

46
Leon Panetta = Ex-Clintonista

It will be interesting to see if Panetta spills his guts, to save Hillary.

We are finally seeing what has been going on behind the scenes...in the much-speculated-upon Clinton vs Barky feud.
There are apparently records of who knew, what, when...and who gave the order to not rescue our people.

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (ipkPX)

47 Video : first amendment :: Fast and furious : second amendment

Posted by: Truman North at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (1/eF6)

48 According to the documents released by Issa's Oversight Committee-

the government of Libya--


took over two months--to issue permits for arms for LES --and this was only after ambassadorial intervention.


This was the Libyan government who was on the receiving end of--

$1.5 billion in US tax payer dollars.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (r2PLg)

49 God Bless our troops

Posted by: TITS101NY at October 25, 2012 05:58 PM (P3ww6)

50 if she said that, and I believe she did ( why would he lie) , they should all be thrown out of Office tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (oSFWF)

51 Nyah... where's your rule of law now, see?

Posted by: Hillary G. Robinson at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (vjyZP)

52 I think we know all of maybe 10% of what really happened here.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (N/1Dm)

53 And apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help.
___
Mr. Woods, from the transcript.

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (jm/9g)

54 @32>> What the hell was Colin Powell doing there?
Offering a patina of respectiblity is my guess.

Posted by: boniface ballers at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (l3RZ9)

55 Subpoena the CJCS and ask him to explain why no forces were sent to help.

All it would take is one House Committee Chair with the stones to do it.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (3xuEM)

56 "These families need to hire a big name lawyer quickly"
*********
This. The louder and more annoying the better*. They need a first class showboat of a lawyer scream "Have you no heart, have you no shame Mr President, Sect. Clinton?

*Just not Allred, please!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (yGJj+)

57
Panetta may have owned it but this will shape public perception. And at the end of the day, it happened on this admins watch.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (GvYeG)

58 Mind you, I mean less-informed, not ill-informed. The latter will not listen until their entire lives come crashing down around their ears, it is a waste of time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (bxiXv)

59 Someone needs to be frog-marched in shackles, but it's not the filmmaker guy.

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (GMrPF)

60 Watergate had zero fatalities.

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (JJ+PT)

61 "I get it, though, I am seriously not looking forward to my upcoming mostly-lefty family gathering (my family is oddly split that way - kind of one-side-left one-side-right)."
Very common in many families at the moment. Domestic violence up.

Posted by: TITS101NY at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (P3ww6)

62 Those shitheads need to lose November 6. I don't want a squeaker either; I want a thrashing.

Posted by: logprof at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (jKE+Z)

63 Worse than Blackhawk Down.

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (SwjAj)

64 These are very bad people in this administration, and who knows what further evil they have waiting for us between now and the election, and the election and (hopefully)the inauguration of Pres. Romney.



Posted by: Boots at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (neKzn)

65
It seems to me the wrong people are in the jailhouse. The Beast and Zero should be sharing a cell.
Bright side, this is another scandal to stick up da Zero's ass before the election.

Posted by: maddogg at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (OlN4e)

66

Hey, if freedom of speech was important, we'd have an amendment or something.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (kdS6q)

67 The Clinton's aren't big on armored vehicles when they are truly needed....it doesn't matter if it's Mogadishu or Benghazi

Posted by: crowsting at October 25, 2012 06:00 PM (61BD9)

68 Since I never heard of lars larson, was this verified to be the Father?

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 06:01 PM (9+ccr)

69 I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will failingly execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my lack of Ability, preserve, protect and dork the Constitution of the United States.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 25, 2012 06:01 PM (ccXZP)

70 Jerry Doyle and Judicial Watch File Freedom of Information Act Requests For Answers on Libya Attack




FOIA Request PDF Files
follow link to read:
http://tinyurl.com/9vexrdn

Posted by: What's your dirt doin' in his ditch? at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (BAnPT)

71 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (6o4Fb)

72
32....No, we had an unfortunate number of Morons here that were arguing that his arrest was warranted and not something we should worry our pretty heads about.

Yep, I remember.

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (ipkPX)

73 President Romney needs to direct the Secret Service give TFG the same security as TFG gave Amb. Stevens.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (XdAzY)

74 26
Unless Hannity or Greta or someone gets this man to tell his story, no one will hear it. Lars larson?


Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 05:55 PM (9+ccr)

Megan Kelly played it on her show today and then interviewed Larson.

Posted by: Tami at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (X6akg)

75 Kind of off topic here, but I noticed something odd on The Five today. During the video they showed of Obama voting, there was a black man in a tan shirt. If anyone can find that footage, take a look at him when they're showing Obama. You'll see him leaving the voting place, and then re-enter a second time and receive another ballot, and then go back to the voting booths. All this right behind Obama's back and in full view of the cameras.

Just thought that seemed odd...well, not for Chicago, but still...

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (f8tpf)

76
And in case you were wondering about those assh*oles playing the Mormon card, link in my name to Legal Insurrection.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (SUKHu)

77 Five people stabbed in New York? Must have bee the work of an assault knife.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (IrbU4)

78 Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (9+ccr)
___
That was before the details of the administration witnessing the attack in real time. Although I can imagine if they are confirmed obots, they are suffering a moral crisis at this time, wondering if their loyalty should be with their dead sons or with the preazy.

Have any of Ambassador Stevens' survivors spoken?

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (jm/9g)

79 Why didn't you come to me like a fucking man and tell me to rescue them?!

Posted by: Barack Odipshit at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (jKE+Z)

80 Bright side, this is another scandal to stick up da Zero's ass before the election.

Bright side? Sorry, there is no bright side to this story.

Posted by: no good deed at October 25, 2012 06:03 PM (mjR67)

81 As insty says, "it is not the crime, its the cover up".

Posted by: MAJ O at October 25, 2012 06:03 PM (TwbSE)

82 #74, Thak you...

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 06:03 PM (9+ccr)

83 39 Panetta has already owned it.Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (r2PLg)Which f'n generals were present, or knew of it in real time? Fire the fucking political shitheads.
Posted by: Invictus at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (OQpzc)

________________

I think I heard that, and blanked it out.

I agree with General McInerney--two F-15s could have flown low and at least scattered the attackers.

Just by flying low over the area you can disperse those that are not use to--

simply the noise.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:03 PM (r2PLg)

84 Thak you...

Oh dear, thank you..

Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna not greg/gerg at October 25, 2012 06:03 PM (9+ccr)

85 First!

Posted by: Obamath at October 25, 2012 06:03 PM (R18D0)

86 81 this time its ALSO the crime

Posted by: alec at October 25, 2012 06:04 PM (usWYv)

87 23 The problem goes to State and to the White House-- again-- on May 3, 2012 Ambassador Steven's request for a DC-3 to scramble limited US security from Tripoli to the consulate was- denied.

---------

There's the problem, right there. Should have asked for a 757. Those requests are approved.

Posted by: Speaker Pelosi at October 25, 2012 06:04 PM (IrbU4)

88 I've got it: Status Quobama

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 25, 2012 06:04 PM (BVkEs)

89 Going to take a shit

Posted by: TITS101NY at October 25, 2012 06:05 PM (P3ww6)

90 56 "These families need to hire a big name lawyer quickly"
*********
This. The louder and more annoying the better*. They need a first class showboat of a lawyer scream "Have you no heart, have you no shame Mr President, Sect. Clinton?

*Just not Allred, please!

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (yGJj+)

--If they do so, I would chip in to the fund.

Posted by: Barack Odipshit at October 25, 2012 06:05 PM (jKE+Z)

91 People need to go door to door in the swing states and talk to anyone that has a kid in the military, knows anyone in the military, or has been in the military, or who just likes freedom that would not be taken away so easily. Not enough people know about this stuff.

Posted by: Girl who thinks this sucks at October 25, 2012 06:05 PM (CcGEp)

92 As insty says, "it is not the crime, its the cover up".


Posted by: MAJ O

No, the crime is pretty damn serious.

Posted by: rabidfox at October 25, 2012 06:05 PM (bBiK6)

93 Welcome to your blog.

But yeah, this is disgusting.

We simply cannot have these people in power for 4 more years.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2012 06:05 PM (PHb2k)

94 Brazen.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 25, 2012 06:06 PM (SAA1o)

95 53 And apparently even the State Department had a live stream and was aware of their calls for help.
___
Mr. Woods, from the transcript.
Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (jm/9g)

_________________

I'm not sure if I caught Charlene Lamb correctly during the hearings but she said she was watching in real time.

I don't know--but at the time they were talking about the feeds and video from the security cameras attached to one of the buildings at the consulate compound.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:06 PM (r2PLg)

96 The blood of our fallen is crying out from the sands of Benghazi for justice.

Deliver us, O God.

Posted by: Hopeless at October 25, 2012 06:06 PM (DzWOc)

97 I forgot to search the email docs for denials and or requests for the armored vehicles...

Anyone catch that?

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:07 PM (r2PLg)

98
Im happy Romney skipped this subject during the debates. Its mean-spirited and doesn't poll well with moderates or something.

And all the leftists are out there saying "why doesn't Romney say anything about Libya?". Like some kind of gocha that Romney has no opinion on the matter.

Posted by: twit of the year at October 25, 2012 06:07 PM (xXhWA)

99 First, Obama, Hillary and everybody connected with this administrations are a pack a bunch of filthy dirty motherfuckers.

My hatred for them is only exceeded by a supine and complicit press in covering and obfuscating this administrations high crimes and misdemeanors.

And also for an "opposition" party that allows these outrages to go unchallenged.

First, we defeat Obama.

Second, we destroy the "press"

Lastly, we clean our own house!

But first we must defeat Obama.

Posted by: General Woundwort at October 25, 2012 06:07 PM (06lNq)

100 We will grab a scapegoat , and do to it like muhammed.

Posted by: Hillarity Clinton at October 25, 2012 06:07 PM (AWmfW)

101 /Barky sock

Fuck.

Posted by: logprof at October 25, 2012 06:08 PM (jKE+Z)

102 The not only ignored pleas for more help for months. had hours and hours that help could have arrived if they thought it IMPORTANT enough .
they actually set up a citizen (yeah not a decent citizen) but a citizen nevertheless to take he fall for the President and SOS of the united states.
how absolutely contemptible is that.
They actually sic'd the left , the police the fbi on a private citizen.
it is chilling .

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:08 PM (hX8cq)

103 Leon Panetta = Ex-Clintonista

It will be interesting to see if Panetta spills his guts, to save Hillary.


*****

Obama has a few dedicated lunatics on his side but the Clintons have an army.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:08 PM (piMMO)

104 Holy crap. Well, Hillary's not known for her adherence to rules, ya know. I think it was Rush a few days agowho went through all her "issues" with the truth while she was Mrs. President.

Posted by: sally ann the cat at October 25, 2012 06:08 PM (VNFBf)

105 President Romney needs to direct the Secret Service give TFG the same security as TFG gave Amb. Stevens.
Posted by: Hanoverfist at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (XdAzY)




This.

Of course, if there were any justice TFG and the wookie would be stripped of citizenship and exiled for life.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 25, 2012 06:08 PM (jfeoD)

106 Wow, I was defending this arrest as good and proper, since prosecutors can't just look the other way when someone violates their parole because they happened to draw extra attention to themselves in doing so. If anything, prosecutors have to crack down on high-profile violations more to maintain a sense of law and order throughout a community and for deterrence.

And I stand by all that.

But they did send a whole lot of people, including feds, to arrest him in the middle of the night. Assuming Tyrone Woods' father isn't lying -- and since the administration are proven liars on the topic of this video who did, indeed, use it as a convenient political scapegoat -- there's every reason to think he's telling the truth ... then this is disgusting and unconstitutional in the extreme.

It deserves impeachment, but that would just hurt us. So righteous electoral massacre will have to suffice.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at October 25, 2012 06:09 PM (SKX2R)

107 the whole thing is soo what i never thought America was.

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:09 PM (hX8cq)

108 I'm sorry, I don't buy the Panetta "troop deploy" bull shit. There are all types of assets they could have been used. Some more covert than others. They knew what was going on. They had a god damn video feed. There isno excuse for inaction here. Andf-ckgeneral whateverthef-ckhisname was. If it had been his son, you bet your ass assets would have been scrambled. Pompous sh-t heads.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 25, 2012 06:09 PM (GvYeG)

109 76 And in case you were wondering about those assh*oles playing the Mormon card...

------

Why do they hate Harry Reid so much?

Posted by: Anachronda at October 25, 2012 06:09 PM (IrbU4)

110 109 nice!

Posted by: alec at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (usWYv)

111 Every person involved for putting that citizen back in the jail, from the Fed Exec level to the police officers that hauled him in are culpable. It won't stop until those at the lower levels refuse to take part.

Posted by: dogfish at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (N2yhW)

112


Nah, read the paper! It was a video!

Jeezis Christ these people are SICK SICK SICK.

This is NorKo/USSR/Cambodia/Cuba type shit.

Revolting sick bastards.



Posted by: Rev Dr E Don Trump at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (ApGOC)

113
Eh, it's he-said, she-said. Who's more believable, the Hildebeast, or a SEAL's father?

---

Well, he doesn't live in a ditch so he doesn't have absolute moral authority like Cindy Sheehan.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (XUKZU)

114 @32>> What the hell was Colin Powell doing there?

Offering a patina of respectiblity is my guess.

Posted by: boniface ballers at October 25, 2012 05:59 PM (l3RZ9)


Good, then let Mr Respectable Quisling Cocksucker be part and parcel of the whole shit show.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (+BEvt)

115 I have been hearing rumors. To put it simply the reason why the White House said it was a protest that got out of hand is to cover up the fact that the White House may knowingly and willfully provided the arms that al-qaeda used in the attack.

In which case, it could be treason.

Posted by: Holger at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (MHk3m)

116 A link from an earlier thread. NewsNinja says Hillary approved more security, Obama denied it, titled 'Bombshell: Clinton Ordered More Security, Obama Denied Request.' http://tinyurl.com/8eleswx

Posted by: Get yer popcorn at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (uyAeF)

117 Seriously, if someone doesn't fry for this, I'm going to lose my shit.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 25, 2012 06:11 PM (GrtrJ)

118 The White House thought Hillary was going to leave the State Dept.

Jay Carney - “He would certainly welcome having her stay,” he said of Potus. He said
he had “nothing to add” to speculation about other post-election
personnel choices should Potus win reelection.

Damn, girl. You better get going on this revenge thing, pronto.

Posted by: Dang© at October 25, 2012 06:11 PM (R18D0)

119 What the hell was Colin Powell doing there?
Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 05:56 PM (SwjAj)

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That's especially interesting after today.

Was thinking the same thing.

CNN keeps quoting Colin Powell saying that after the foreign policy debate--

Colin is concerned with--Romney's changing positions."

Who the hell is Colin kidding?

Candidate Obama was all over the damn map when it came to missile defense.

Anyone who cared about that--and followed what Obama said about that was flabbergasted.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:11 PM (r2PLg)

120 Also, according to WSJ's Bret Stephens article a few weeks ago, Obama actually went to bed not knowing the outcome of the attack.That's cold.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (yGJj+)

121 I would also like it noted the Left Obama supporters were actually saying this obscure and pretty chtty filmmaker should be killed.
let's point out how damn contemptible these folks have bcome in their defense of their dear leader.

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (hX8cq)

122 Lamb did say they were monitoring real-time but I think it was just audio.


“From that point on, I could follow what was happening in almost real time,” Lamb said in written testimony prepared for a hearing today by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, which has been investigating the attack and whether security was adequate.

source: bloomberg

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (uf1hZ)

123 107

It's almost as if elections have consequences...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (SAA1o)

124 39 Panetta has already owned it.Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:52 PM (r2PLg)Which f'n generals were present, or knew of it in real time? Fire the fucking political shitheads.
Posted by: Invictus at October 25, 2012 05:57 PM (OQpzc)

The way General Kean has been defending the decision, I think Patraeus advised against it. He is Patraeus' big mentor and defended him when he was advocating the surge

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (Dnbau)

125 >>To put it simply the reason why the White House said it was a protest
that got out of hand is to cover up the fact that the White House may
knowingly and willfully provided the arms that al-qaeda used in the
attack.

You may be right. But why would they attack those who are supplying them with what they want - weapons?

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 06:13 PM (SwjAj)

126 You know what? I kinda like Hillary... well as far as a conservative can. It's more a respect thing. She's had to take a lotta shit over the years... some deserved, some undeserved. But it would be a summabitch of monumental proportions if she let herself become the scapegoat for an administration with one foot in the grave digging her final resting place as fast and furiously as they can.

Come on Hillary, do the right thing. The truth. Tell it.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 25, 2012 06:13 PM (feFL6)

127 wow, what instincts this white house has, no guards and no rescue because peace, I guess.

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 06:13 PM (QxSug)

128 Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (yGJj+)
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The dad said that when preazy shook his hand to tell him he was sorry that it felt like a cold fish and he sounded insincere, as did Cankles.

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 06:13 PM (jm/9g)

129 Gotta run , the snipers are a'shooting again.

Posted by: Hillarity Clinton at October 25, 2012 06:13 PM (AWmfW)

130 Lamb did say they were monitoring real-time but I think it was just audio.

______________________

That makes more sense.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (r2PLg)

131 I was going to say have they no shame but no, they don't. I doubt Obama comprehends why this is a big f'n deal to the wingnuts.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Coming soon. at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (Gk3SS)

132
The group that took credit for the attack...were using Twitter and Facebook -- while they were attacking.

So that thing that Hillary said yesterday, about the "Facebook posting"...was not all that smart.
Unless, she did that to appear like she was still on the same 'team' as the White House.

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (ipkPX)

133 115I have been hearing rumors. To put it simply the reason why the White House said it was a protest that got out of hand is to cover up the fact that the White House may knowingly and willfully provided the arms that al-qaeda used in the attack.In which case, it could be treason.Posted by: Holger at October 25, 2012 06:10 PM (MHk3m)Fast Furious part 2. It will likely get the same response.

Posted by: twit of the year at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (xXhWA)

134 Someone in another thread commented that HRC was lawyering up. I have a feeling there's going to be a lot more on this than what we already know.

This is going to persist well past the election.

Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (uaRd0)

135 Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods fought the bastards off for up to seven hours some places are reporting. It took a fucking mortar to take them out. Our government couldn't send ONE F-16 for ground support? We had Marines in Tripoli, and I will bet dollars to donuts they were chomping at the bit to get to Benghazi. These two American Heroes were left to DIE because their Commander in Chief was afraid of the political blowback. That is bullshit, and when Romney assumes command, heads had better roll.

Posted by: Chuck at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (dSkY8)

136 Over 100 comments so I'm going OT.

Check this shit: http://tinyurl.com/9buuybp

Creepy.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (piMMO)

137 and another point, the parole violation is for using the internet and the only evidence of that is a youtube clip of his movie. Who put the thing up? Making the movie is legal, someone else can put the thing up on internet legally. Such bullshit.

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM (QxSug)

138 And Tyrone Woods' father brings up again an important point that I'm sure he cares about massively.

Of course relevant military units, under local commanders' authority, will start prepping and/or moving to the battle area as much as they can (and the given commander is willing to given their judgement and propensity for action), while waiting for higher orders.

They will ASSUME they're needed until told otherwise. Every fibre in their f'n being will be straining to go and fight and protect their ambassador, especially the types of personalities that constitute the elite units that would be called upon.

I include fighter pilots in that group.

And Obama did nothing, and let them die unaided hours later.

It makes me want to cry. With anger, yes, but with sadness too.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at October 25, 2012 06:15 PM (SKX2R)

139 At least they're letting him out before the election.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 25, 2012 06:15 PM (6JMZR)

140 If Hillary or Panetta really "owned it" they would have already resigned.
Saying you're responsible, but not responsible-responsible like Hillary did isn't owning it, it's a political power play.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 06:15 PM (yGJj+)

141 Text strings are hard to program.

Posted by: twit of the year at October 25, 2012 06:15 PM (xXhWA)

142 120
Also, according to WSJ's Bret Stephens article a few weeks ago, Obama
actually went to bed not knowing the outcome of the attack.That's cold.


Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 06:12 PM (yGJj+)

Doing nothing .

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 25, 2012 06:15 PM (AWmfW)

143 Barack Judas Obama.

This betrayal defies all words. O, God, deliver us.

Posted by: Hopeless at October 25, 2012 06:16 PM (DzWOc)

144
47 Video : first amendment :: Fast and furious : second amendment

They love the Constitution like OJ loved Nicole.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 25, 2012 06:16 PM (6JMZR)

145 Someone in another thread commented that HRC was lawyering up. I have a
feeling there's going to be a lot more on this than what we already
know.



This is going to persist well past the election.

****

Yep.

Here you go.

http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/10/clintonlegalteam/

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:16 PM (piMMO)

146 If Hillary or Panetta really "owned it" they would have already resigned.
Saying you're responsible, but not responsible-responsible like Hillary did isn't owning it, it's a political power play.


Posted by: Lizzy at October 25, 2012 06:15 PM (yGJj+)


The lack of resignations means one thing: They all have to fry for this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (+BEvt)

147
People, you need to remind the less-informed about these things.


Flame away, but The Blaze TV, Beck's operation, has been on all of this all along. Beck just finished interviewing Woods's dad. I'm sure it will be up on The Blaze web site soon.

Slow Joe was just as disgusting when it came to giving condolences. The first thing he said after "I'm sorry," was "I've gotten one of these phone calls, too." (Always, all about the pols.) The creme de la creme from Slow Joe: Did your son always have balls as big as cue balls?

Mr. Woods said words failed him.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (tQHzJ)

148 Here's the other problem-- the timeline of events that happened at the Embassy and the consulate small petty stuff--it was either terrorists testing--or at the very least encouraging for anyone thinking of grander things.

Now--we have an attack on a US consulate and no real answer for that.

That is going back to a familiar pattern.

We are only going to earn more of the same or an escalation of that.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (r2PLg)

149 Ace,
What about the Ed Klein story of Hillary requesting more security and the White House mixing it ?

Posted by: Avi at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (I/gCE)

150 I had read earlier today Hillary had asked for more support for the Ambassador before this occured and she ws denied by Obama

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (hX8cq)

151 If this were about Obama, it would be racist.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/8qhu7ef

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (XUKZU)

152 (I'm just linking this for the picture.)
http://is.gd/tQbFiV

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (ZKzrr)

153 I hold the MFM in general in lower esteem than I do more honest professionals such as prostitutes, lawyers, and burglars.

I can only hope that by continued perfidy they are putting themselves out of business, to be replace by, at least, those who have some small fear of destroying themselves and who will thus at least strive for honesty, if not always achieve it.

Otherwise, they need a good monkeywrenching.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (bxiXv)

154 He's a political prisoner

Posted by: Avi at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (I/gCE)

155
130 Lamb did say they were monitoring real-time but I think it was just audio.

______________________


That makes more sense.

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But tasker....Issa kept questioning her about a 'video'.

I've never understood, though...if it was footage from the ground...or footage from a drone...or footage from a satellite.

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (ipkPX)

156 136
Over 100 comments so I'm going OT.

Check this shit: http://tinyurl.com/9buuybp


Lena Dunham talking about how her first anal gang bang was interracial? Yeah, I know how she feels.

Posted by: Jasmine Byrne at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (vjyZP)

157 My vote is that Valerie Jarrett is the spider in the center of the web.

It's got her fumble fingered fingerprints all over it.

She's blocked things that should have been done or encouraged things that shouldn't have been done.

There's a lot of talk about how un-American Obama acts, talks and reacts.

I think we should look no further than this emigre' from Iran no less as the fount of failure and the one most foreign to an American's way of thinking.

Valerie Jarrett should be arrested and tried for TREASON.

Posted by: Matthew Broderick at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (Vh0f5)

158 When that call comes at 4 in the afternoon, who do you want answering the call?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (piMMO)

159 If no one has mentioned it yet, there were 400 people in D.C. watching this in real time; 400, including Petraeus.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (tQHzJ)

160
F'ing Panetta's excuse is bs too, not knowing what is on the ground. We entered a whole f'ing civil war in Libya not even knowing who was on our side motherfucker.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (PHb2k)

161 Like rats fleeing the rain barrel the dems are. Scurry, vermin.

Posted by: Flounder at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (Kkt/i)

162 General f'n Dempsey. Biggest sell-out pos since Gen. Wesley Clark. Fucking traitorous scum need to be buried under the jail.

Posted by: Invictus at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (OQpzc)

163 I meant to type "protect their brothers and their ambassador". They will have wanted to protect their fellow people under arms, even if they were ex navy SEALs. State Department Security, or whomever. They wouldn't have known the details about this, just that America's diplomatic security and possibly DOD security were in battle, and their ambassador was under grave threat.

The units capable of responding quickly would have begun preparing immediately.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (SKX2R)

164 Much as I wish I had his money and fame, I'm not him.

Off Bueller sock.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 06:19 PM (Vh0f5)

165 I don't know why the fact that Powell was at the reception bothers me, exactly, but it does.

Why was he there? Why is a private citizen, with no official connection to the government, involved in a bereavement ceremony? Does he have an "unofficial" role in the administration? Did he provide advise as to damage control? What the hell was he doing there?

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 06:19 PM (SwjAj)

166
But the worst part of this remains, that the best time to put troops there where when they were asked for: weeks and months earlier.

But they were denied over and over again.

And then left to die, calling for help.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2012 06:19 PM (PHb2k)

167 Wow. Watching Katherine Herridge on FNC right now, this just keeps getting worse.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2012 06:20 PM (TMB3S)

168 Up until all this coming out, my workplace was full of O fans. Now that this is all coming out...no. Grim quiet anger has replaced the adOration.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at October 25, 2012 06:20 PM (7v5Ct)

169 Have any of Ambassador Stevens' survivors spoken?
Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (jm/9g)

Yeah, his mom. She's a True Believer, though. She snippily said her comments were pending until the full investigationis completed.

Posted by: sally ann the cat at October 25, 2012 06:20 PM (VNFBf)

170 When that call comes at 4 in the afternoon, who do you want answering the call?


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (piMMO)


Well there's a better than 50/50 shot I'll be on the links or campaigning when that call comes, but if I'm there you can count on me to make the gutsy call. Right after I run it by Val.

Posted by: Hussein at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (/YJYi)

171 President Romney needs to direct the Secret Service give TFG the same security as TFG gave Amb. Stevens. Posted by: Hanoverfist at October 25, 2012 06:02 PM (XdAzY)


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The first thing Romney needs to do, for his own protection and that of his family, is overhaul the SS. They're in as much dissaray as the SCOAMT regime.

Geez. Everything Baraka touches turns to shit.

Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (uaRd0)

172 Matt K. Lewis ‏@mattklewis

Yesterday, Santorum told me Romney could ‘pull off a surprise’ in PA / Today, Ed Rendell says a 'startling upset' is 'a possibility.'

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (8sCoq)

173
I don't know why the fact that Powell was at the reception bothers me, exactly, but it does.

Why
was he there? Why is a private citizen, with no official connection to
the government, involved in a bereavement ceremony? Does he have an
"unofficial" role in the administration? Did he provide advise as to
damage control? What the hell was he doing there?


****

Well, it's not carrying any weight with the MSNBC crowd.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (piMMO)

174 It now looks like people are claiming that this was part of a planned attack that included attacks on the Tunisian embassy and an American school 3 days later.

This is getting too big to keep under wraps.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (TMB3S)

175 Have we figured out how the hell they got there eventually?

How they eventually got those people out of Benghazi?

Did they have to CHARTER a damn civilian plane?

Would have been nice to have that DC-3 that Ambassador Stevens figured out they might need months before...

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (r2PLg)

176 Never trust anyone over O-5. The rest are just politicians in uniform.

Posted by: Invictus at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (OQpzc)

177 I remember Rush saying something about a year and a half into Barky's term (I think.) He said that when we finally regain the WH, House and Senate that we will remember all the shitty things the Dems did and it would be scorched earth.

My dearest hope is that we do just that. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Burn them to the ground and piss on their ashes.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:21 PM (iYbLN)

178
And another thing, what kind of America is this under this sissy president, we just sit there and watch as Americans are attacked and die?

We don't need permission, we don't need perfect info, go help for Godsakes.

Man, this just fries my chaps.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2012 06:22 PM (PHb2k)

179
Yesterday, Santorum told me Romney could ‘pull off a surprise’ in PA
/ Today, Ed Rendell says a 'startling upset' is 'a possibility.'

***

Dick Morris, for what it's worth, say PA is the new OH.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:22 PM (piMMO)

180 Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 06:17 PM (tQHzJ)
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You can't even blame the brain damage for JoeFredo's cheezy comment. That was a pure unadulterated instance of a lowlife's mentality at work.

Posted by: kallisto at October 25, 2012 06:22 PM (jm/9g)

181
THIS is why the constitution is NOT a living, breathing document. It sets forth the rules that limit the power of government.

Mess with it at your peril.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 25, 2012 06:22 PM (C8hzL)

182 General f'n Dempsey. Biggest sell-out pos since Gen. Wesley Clark. Fucking traitorous scum need to be buried under the jail.
Posted by: Invictus at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (OQpzc)

Was it gawd damn Dempsey?

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:23 PM (r2PLg)

183 Let's never forget that Obama stressed when leading the coalition from behind, that no ground troops would be sent to Libya. I am betting that political blowback over this promise was the overriding consideration on whether to provide additional security and/or rescue the lost souls. To do so would have been, of course, not optimal.

Posted by: Flounder at October 25, 2012 06:23 PM (Kkt/i)

184 Create crisis. Solve crisis. Win.

What was the object? Water down the 1st Amendment by creating new impositions on free speech - specifically introduce blasphemy laws which, by the way, creates the wedge for exclusive Islamic protections and (possibly) Sharia carveouts.

What was the solution? Create a false story wherein high-ranking Americans are put at risk (and in this case, killed) if "free speech" continues without modification. I mean, who wants to see Americans put at risk or killed, right, just because of a video? Surely it's reasonable to cut that stuff out. And now a new precedent is set to go after the 1st.

There are other plausible scenarios which are just as chilling, but the "never let a crisis go to waste" MO is still operational. The Benghazi crisis had some pawns killed to advance the game.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 25, 2012 06:23 PM (eHIJJ)

185


Powell was there for show.

What horrible, horrible people...

I've met some hideous lefties before...this is beyond anything I can imagine.

Well, janet Reno was a foul person too...


Posted by: Rev Dr E Don Trump at October 25, 2012 06:23 PM (ApGOC)

186 If Valerie Jarrett isn't on a jet out of the country if the TFG loses, I'll eat my hat.

And it won't be filing a flight plan to Chicago.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 06:23 PM (Vh0f5)

187
And oh yeah, after they fuckin set Americans abroad up to be raped, tortured and executed, then they come home and blame another American (good guy or not) for exercising his first amendment rights.

F them.

/rant off

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 25, 2012 06:24 PM (PHb2k)

188 Nobody who is not already voting for Romney will even hear about this.

Posted by: Spike at October 25, 2012 06:24 PM (I4NNt)

189 141 Text strings are hard to program.

-------

You have no idea.

Posted by: Anachronda occasionally contemplates Unicode at October 25, 2012 06:24 PM (FzhYM)

190 I think we should look no further than this emigre' from Iran

Valeri Jarrett is not "from Iran". She's black. Her parents were both Americans, and her dad ran a hospital there. She was born there, but left when she was five. She has not a drop of Persian blood.

This "Jarrett-Iranian" conspiracy is bullshit.

Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2012 06:24 PM (vjyZP)

191 Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 25, 2012 05:50 PM (DKxu1)

The arrest may have been technically legal, but the attention paid to this sad-sack was straight from the White House. Nobody would have given a rat's ass, in particular the cops in LA, had it not been linked to Libya and Egypt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 25, 2012 06:25 PM (2b4yb)

192
On Megyn Kelly's show today....

There was a new report from Greg Palcott, in Benghazi.
There was a two-hour lull in the attack...then they came back, with even more firepower.

Palcott's graphic simulation showed a small group of four people...other than Ambassador Stevens...moving from one building to another, as they were overrun in one location.

There were survivors...of the attack.
Big Question is, where are they?

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:25 PM (ipkPX)

193 But tasker....Issa kept questioning her about a 'video'.

I've never understood, though...if it was footage from the ground...or footage from a drone...or footage from a satellite.
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (ipkPX)

_________________

Well ya--that's how I sort of remember it.

At the end of the hearing--Issa was talking about a video he --didn't have.

So I think at the time Issa hard seen the security camera vid --but not the drone video.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:25 PM (r2PLg)

194 I would also like it noted, while they said making a video is no reason to go on a rampage and kill people. Their first instinct was to Blame the video , out the video maker and' tell Americans to shut up.'

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:25 PM (hX8cq)

195 If Petreaus was watching this in real time why isn't he speaking up?
This sickens me.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:26 PM (iYbLN)

196

This "Jarrett-Iranian" conspiracy is bullshit.


Who cares, the B*tch needs to be cuffed and frog-marched out of the White House

Posted by: Meathammer at October 25, 2012 06:27 PM (W2qJe)

197 Damn. Truman North beat me by t h a t m u c h.

Yes. 1st and 2nd under assault. Crisis. Waste. Never. Minimal assembly required.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 25, 2012 06:27 PM (eHIJJ)

198 Claiming Valerie Jarrett is Iranian is like claiming John McCain is Panamanian.

Posted by: wooga at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (vjyZP)

199 There were survivors...of the attack.
Big Question is, where are they?
Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:25 PM (ipkPX)

_____________

That.

I also find it weird that--the guys assigned to Stevens have to run to another building--not the one that the Ambassador had retired to--for vests and other assorted sundries.

Another problem I have with the story is that they radio the one guy left behind with Stevens and Smith in the safe room and he tells them they are fine--so they stay put where they are.

What the hell is that guy's situational awareness of the possible threat from a damn safe room?

It's negligible.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (r2PLg)

200 There were survivors...of the attack.
Big Question is, where are they?


Posted by: wheatie

wheatie,
That's just what my husband and I have been asking. Where are they? Why aren't they speaking?

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (iYbLN)

201 If Petreaus was watching this in real time why isn't he speaking up?
This sickens me.


Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:26 PM (iYbLN)


Petraeus's role in this whole thing is the most puzzling to me. I'm very surprised he hasn't resigned other than he doesn't trust anybody else to keep the people under him safe.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (+BEvt)

202


Isn't barry really a legit chickenhawk?

Isn't this what the lefties fear about chickenhawks?

Oh I forgot, it's all totally bullshit.

They're bullshitters.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Don Trump at October 25, 2012 06:29 PM (ApGOC)

203 Born there, raised there, lived there, thinks in Persian.

It's not a conspiracy. It's here homeland. Just like the Pres is more Indonesian Muslim than American.

Where you live for the first five years of your life makes an impression.

She lived outside the US until she was 13.

It makes an impression, a big impression.


Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 06:30 PM (Vh0f5)

204 I can't believe I just thought about this now, but ...

HILLARY CLINTON TOLD THE FATHER WHOSE SON DIED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS GOING TO HAVE A MAN ARRESTED WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Not just that they arrested an innocent man on a pretense, and made him a target to the world's deadliest death cult.

But she lied to a navy SEALs father about who was responsible for her son's death.

THEN she promised to hurt that innocent man to avenge Charles Woods' murdered son.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at October 25, 2012 06:30 PM (SKX2R)

205 201
Captain Hate

The general has been very quiet. What gives?

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:30 PM (iYbLN)

206 >>There were survivors...of the attack.
Big Question is, where are they?

Some are in Ramstein Air Force Base in Germany. None are going to be allowed to talk. They are still military/CIA.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2012 06:30 PM (TMB3S)

207 washington times says Stevens' job was to get left-over Qaddafi arms and send them to the opposition in Syria, via Turkey

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 06:31 PM (8sCoq)

208 Prison is the only treatment congenital liars.

Posted by: Othered at October 25, 2012 06:31 PM (EuW9O)

209 The thing to stay focused on is Ambassador Stevens foresaw all of this--and they shut him down.


Months ago.

Dead men do tell tales.

I also think it might not have been by happen stance that Smith took the time to communicate that there were elements of 'pre-planning" through unofficial channels.

After seeing how they were denied time and time again--I have come to the realization that it is more and more likely that-

Sean Smith did that by design.

Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 06:31 PM (r2PLg)

210 Check this shit: http://tinyurl.com/9buuybp

Creepy.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 25, 2012 06:14 PM


Whoa. That is revolting on about 10 different levels. I'd say "thanks, NDH," but I really wish I coud un-see it.

Posted by: jakeman at October 25, 2012 06:31 PM (96M6e)

211
198Claiming Valerie Jarrett is Iranian is like claiming John McCain is Panamanian.

____________________________________

Hag has shown herself to be an utterly corrupt scum sucker with the lowest IQ and political instincts since Ralph on The Simpsons.

The sooner she's behind bars the better we'll all be.

Posted by: Meathammer at October 25, 2012 06:32 PM (W2qJe)

212 >>tasker at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (r2PLg)

No offense, but that sounds a bit like Trutherism - that the government either directly conspired to kill the ambassador or deliberately allowed it to occur.

There's little I'd put past this administration, but there's seldom any reason to chalk up to conspiracy what can easily be pinned on plain old incompetence and failure of policy.

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 06:32 PM (SwjAj)

213 I hope the man who made the "video" sues the shit out of the United States government.

Bring them all to court. I want to know everything these lying fuckers didn't do to save these Americans.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:32 PM (iYbLN)

214 We'll jump right in and take a Chinese disodent and bring him here lickity split.....but those we have sent out to represent us....not so much.

Posted by: giftogab at October 25, 2012 06:32 PM (QW2hm)

215 Yesterday, Santorum told me Romney could ‘pull off a surprise’ in PA /
Today, Ed Rendell says a 'startling upset' is 'a possibility.'


I live bordering a solid Democrat enclave in SE Pennsylvania. Two days ago, hundreds of anti-Casey (the D candidate for re-election to the Senate) appeared all over their town. "War on Coal' and 'Job Killer' were a couple of the signs condemning Casey.

In typography, when you know there is a mistake, but you want the reader to know you have found the mistake, you use the convention of (stet) which means 'let it stand'. In this little town near me, there is NO WAY in the past those signs would have stayed up for 24 hours. But they have decide to 'let it stand' three days later.

I really think Pa is gonna rid itself of Casey and be razor thin for Romney.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 25, 2012 06:33 PM (feFL6)

216
"...and obviously someone had to say, “Don’t go rescue them.” We need to find out who it was that gave that command. "

Would that qualify as a 'gutsy call'?Because I knowof a guy who makes those.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at October 25, 2012 06:33 PM (Rrc6j)

217 Obama is evil; there's no way gettin' around it. He spits on the U.S. Constitution. Arresting the film making idiot is an impeachable offense. Why doesn't somebody in Congress make an issue of this? Fuck the national reporters; most of them would look better and think more rationally if they were decapitated. Head, anybody? Head? Is Michelle Obama hiding a pumpkin in her ass or does she always look like Halloween?

Posted by: MoeRon at October 25, 2012 06:33 PM (yWDpP)

218
Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at October 25, 2012 06:30 PM (SKX2R)

Knock, knock.
A little slow, are we?

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:33 PM (ipkPX)

219 Yeah, where are the other 40 people who were attacked and survived?

Posted by: Othered at October 25, 2012 06:33 PM (EuW9O)

220 John McCain was born on a US military base, speaking mostly English and being steeped in the culture of an American. Also the Panama Canal was under control of the US at the time.

He also followed his father from U.S.N. bases to U.S.N. bases.

His impressions and cultural immersion was American and English speaking and Military.

More?

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 06:33 PM (Vh0f5)

221 washington times says Stevens' job was to get left-over Qaddafi arms and send them to the opposition in Syria, via Turkey

Beck says Stevens was the gunrunner supplying al-Qaeda -- the devils that killed nearly 3,000 Americans on 9-11 -- with U.S. weapons that would/will eventually kill U.S. troops.

Providing material support to enemies meets the definition of treason.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 06:34 PM (tQHzJ)

222 >>washington times says Stevens' job was to get left-over Qaddafi arms and send them to the opposition in Syria, via Turkey

Old news. What's more sinister is who they were dealing with and who they were delivering weapons to.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 25, 2012 06:34 PM (TMB3S)

223 The general has been very quiet. What gives?


Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:30 PM (iYbLN)


For somebody who's climbed as high as he has he seems to be one of the least *obviously* political of the bunch as far as keeping his yap shut and just doing his job ie. follow orders. I don't know how else to explain it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:34 PM (+BEvt)

224 Schrödinger's cat

Casey Jr isn't fit to carry his late father's name. His dad was a Dem but he meant what he said. He was a decent man. He son is an empty suit.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:35 PM (iYbLN)

225 @177 "it would be scorched earth"

yes please, reprisals. The reason why dems act so bad is because they have no fear. Punish them all. That includes filling DOJ and courts with conservative lawyers

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 06:35 PM (QxSug)

226 I must have missed it if there were indeed morons here defending the arrest of the filmmaker. That's sad. Turn in your Valurite and moron ID, please.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 25, 2012 06:35 PM (zpqa2)

227
The units capable of responding quickly would have begun preparing immediately.

Posted by: Samwise Gamgee at October 25, 2012 06:18 PM (SKX2R)

This is all bullshit. Their whole story.

AF units pull alert all the ffing time. AND IT WAS SEPT 11. They should have already been on alert. This is all bullshit. Aircraft at Aviano and Sigonella should have been at the ready.

And I will bet my life they were. They were sitting their aircraft waiting for the "Go" sign. And it never came.

We flew F4s through downtown Manilla to prevent a coup. A show of force may have saved two of the four men, the 2 former NAvy seals who were abandoned on a rooftop to die ALONE, after a 7 hour fire fight their shared gun caked with their own blood.

I am sick with grief and rage over this.

Patraeus, Clapper, Clinton, Cmn of the JCS, and the JEF ALL NEED TO GO.

Time to tell the truth. We owe it to those dead men.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 06:35 PM (Dnbau)

228
Anyone ask f* head Colin Powell how he thought this Benghazi clusterf*ck beared on his "endorsement?"

Racist attention-whore sh*thead!

Posted by: Meathammer at October 25, 2012 06:36 PM (W2qJe)

229 Obama and Clinton should be arrested by the U.S. Marshals. Impeachment is too good for these people.

Posted by: Durka at October 25, 2012 06:36 PM (1crPI)

230 Bret Baier is beating the shit out of the competition on the Libya story


now he's shaming them by clocking how much the various nightly network news programs spend on the story


last night ABC did a whopping 37 seconds

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 06:37 PM (8sCoq)

231 We owe it to their families.

And all the other Americans at our Embassies around the world.

We don't leave anyone behind.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 25, 2012 06:37 PM (Vh0f5)

232 For somebody who's climbed as high as he has he
seems to be one of the least *obviously* political of the bunch as far
as keeping his yap shut and just doing his job ie. follow orders. I
don't know how else to explain it.


Posted by: Captain Hate


I cannot fathom that the general would sit there and watch those Americans die and not do something damn the consequences.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:37 PM (iYbLN)

233 #227 - So how does the truth finally get out? Too many fuckin' careerists; nobody will take accountability. In the good ole days, if some Japanese corporate guy fucked up, he'd kill himself. We need more people in Washington who will kill themselves.

Posted by: MoeRon at October 25, 2012 06:38 PM (yWDpP)

234 OT

Wolf Blitzer just asked David Axlerod about the "bullshitter" comment. Ax confirmed the comment. Said it's because Romney lies. Wolf asked no follow up.

Turned into a nice 3 minute add for Obama. That's an "in-kind contribution" for CNN's FEC records.

Posted by: CJ at October 25, 2012 06:38 PM (9G+G5)

235 Lie about it being a video; attack the 1st Amendment; apologize for American freedoms; cover-up the truth. Seems they've checked all their traitorous boxes.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:38 PM (KL49F)

236 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 25, 2012 06:39 PM (6o4Fb)

237 Can I be conspiratorial & say that the Powers that be Have made THEIR decision on who will win

Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 06:39 PM (ck76k)

238
212>> tasker at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (r2PLg)


No offense, but that sounds a bit like Trutherism - that the government either directly conspired to kill the ambassador or deliberately allowed it to occur.

There's little I'd put past this administration, but there's seldom any reason to chalk up to conspiracy what can easily be pinned on plain old incompetence and failure of policy.

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 06:32 PM (SwjAj)

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So, angler...do you still think that Fast and Furious was "just a failed operation"?

There are things about this Benghazi incident...that make no sense.
And just like with Fast and Furious, the first question remains...."Why did they let it happen?"!

Posted by: wheatie at October 25, 2012 06:39 PM (ipkPX)

239 I must have missed it if there were indeed morons here defending the arrest of the filmmaker. That's sad. Turn in your Valurite and moron ID, please.

There was at least one. I venture to say that in the Founders' day, they would've busted the guy out of jail.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 06:40 PM (tQHzJ)

240 220 John McCain was born on a US military base, speaking mostly English and being steeped in the culture of an American. Also the Panama Canal was under control of the US at the time.

He also followed his father from U.S.N. bases to U.S.N. bases.

His impressions and cultural immersion was American and English speaking and Military.

More?

None of that makes McCain more American than Jarrett. You should be glad that she isn't Iranian: nowhere for the demon-spawn to run.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:41 PM (Su0W2)

241 I cannot fathom that the general would sit there and watch those Americans die and not do something damn the consequences.


Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:37 PM (iYbLN)


As I initially said, his role in this has been a mystery to me.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:41 PM (+BEvt)

242 Even if the JEF wins the election with his massive fraud machine in place, He will most certainly fry for this and more. The msm will suddenly awaken and pull a Nixon on his racist anti American ass.

Posted by: the dam will break at October 25, 2012 06:41 PM (dvLAs)

243 Posted by: Jones in CO at October 25, 2012 06:37 PM (8sCoq)

remember Baier covered the Pentagon before taking over for Brit Hume ! that is where the "Leaks" are coming from, Can you say Petraeus

Posted by: Evilpens at October 25, 2012 06:41 PM (ck76k)

244 i truly hope there is resolution to this an FF.
otherwise i feel like that che-che- person crying on my couch wanting to tell my kids something like' i just don't know.'
how can trust be regained ? if nothing is done?
where is the protection of the citizn. or those that defend us? or advocate on our behalf?

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:41 PM (hX8cq)

245 242

Why would they?


(They're all fellow travelers, after all.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (SAA1o)

246 228
Anyone ask f* head Colin Powell how he thought this Benghazi clusterf*ck beared on his "endorsement?"

Racist attention-whore sh*thead!
Posted by: Meathammer at October 25, 2012 06:36 PM (W2qJe)

It's obvious that the Organized Left has something on Powell, something very nasty.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (Su0W2)

247 Interesting that dumb ass would come out and endorse Obama yesterday (Colin Powell) when he could very well be implicated as part of the cover up. Why again was he at the hanger waiting for the bodies to come home?

Posted by: mare at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (A98Xu)

248 **241 I cannot fathom that the general would sit there and watch those Americans die and not do something damn the consequences.**

To put it gently, that's what generals are supposed to do. Every action they can make can incur death.

Posted by: joeindc44 will start talking like biden. like. biden. at October 25, 2012 06:44 PM (QxSug)

249 So we have confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt that O lied about Benghazi; now the question is WHY. Current theory that I think now makes the most sense is: O was arming AQ thru Libya to fight in Syria in a new Fast Furious program; but those weapons have landed in the hands of our enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan -- which would explain how those enemies suddenly have much more sophisticated weaponry lately and are able to shoot down our aircraft (4 last yr but 11 this yr) and wipe out so many of our aircraft a couple months ago.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:44 PM (KL49F)

250 It's obvious that the Organized Left has something on Powell, something very nasty.
Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (Su0W2)



Meh. Powel was never on our side, really. At his best he was a moderate.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 25, 2012 06:44 PM (jfeoD)

251 There's little I'd put past this administration, but there's seldom any reason to chalk up to conspiracy what can easily be pinned on plain old incompetence and failure of policy.

Posted by: angler at October 25, 2012 06:32 PM (SwjAj)


This is getting old. There's no question of the base malevolence and America-hate of this administration. It wasn't incompetence. Yes, they are incompetent, but that had nothing to do with anything about Benghazi or the jailing of an American over a video that was, if anything, more truthful than anything out of the White House - by miles. And the video was a smart piece of comedy, too.

We are already deep into the 3rd volume of the Articles of Impeachment for Barky and his junta. How much more will it take until their obvious stupidity and ineptitude no longer serves as a cover for their treason?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 06:45 PM (X3lox)

252
It's obvious that the Organized Left has something on Powell, something very nasty.
Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (Su0W2)

******

Umm, no it's not. It's obvious that Powell is yet another unforgivable embarassment by W.

Posted by: Durka at October 25, 2012 06:45 PM (1crPI)

253 That's just what my husband and I have been asking. Where are they? Why aren't they speaking?
Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:28 PM (iYbLN)


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The preezy can classify this any way he wishes. I'm sure all of the survivors were forced to sign off on knowing this is top secret.

As for the CIA, I'm sure many of them don't want to be identified. They're probably operatives.

Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 06:45 PM (uaRd0)

254 anyway this whole ride on the progressive train,


barf.

Posted by: willow at October 25, 2012 06:45 PM (hX8cq)

255 And I think Amb. Stevens was the "man who knew too much" and that's why no help was sent.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:46 PM (KL49F)

256 It's obvious that the Organized Left has something on Powell, something very nasty.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (Su0W2)


Doubtful. Powell is a piece of shit and always has been. he's been a back-stabbing douchebag for the entirety of his public career, from his tenure as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs through to today.

Powell has always been a worm of the first order, of his own accord.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 06:47 PM (X3lox)

257 It's obvious that the Organized Left has something on Powell, something very nasty.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (Su0W2)


That's what I thought of when he was still kind of a Republican and said he wouldn't run for Pres because his wife didn't want to endure the strain of a campaign. I guess that could've been a reason but subsequent events have moved me to what you said.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:47 PM (+BEvt)

258 Meh. Powel was never on our side, really. At his best he was a moderate.
Posted by: Reactionary at October 25, 2012 06:44 PM (jfeoD)

Him being on "our side" isn't the issue. Him being on the side of truth is. What he did to Scooter Libby was pure treachery and I believe he did it because he was directed to do it by his puppeteers.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:48 PM (Su0W2)

259 In my heart of hearts I'm hoping General Petraeus will come forward and tell the whole truth. At least testify before Issa's committee behind closed doors.

If he is part of this clusterfuck it would truly shake my faith in good men.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:48 PM (iYbLN)

260 (I'm just linking this for the picture.)

Yum, thank you.

Posted by: Infidel at October 25, 2012 06:49 PM (O/fK8)

261 If Petreaus was watching this in real time why isn't he speaking up?
This sickens me.


Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:26 PM (iYbLN)

Petraeus's role in this whole thing is the most puzzling to me. I'm very surprised he hasn't resigned other than he doesn't trust anybody else to keep the people under him safe.
Posted by: Captain Hate

I admired him tremendously for his advocacy of the surge and his conduct before he was the head of the CIA. However, since then he has called a crack pot pastor in FL over some Koran burning, blamed a video maker when he knew it was not the cause of Benghazi, and watched good men die.

One of the special forces units in Tripoli were CIA assets. Had he said they should attempt a rescue, they should have. Amb Stevens was CIA. They knew he did not have adequate security and his concerns about it. Patraeus should have had a plan in place for such an event.

He is smarter than this. I think he must want an elected position someday. It makes me sick to think this way

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 06:49 PM (Dnbau)

262 251

RE The Video -

I agree. As soon as the story broke (the first version) - I watched the video. I thought it rocked. Funny and truthful and mocking, just as it should be against the fascists and the fraudulent religion that it is. Some very funny scenes...

Even people like Hannity preface remarks with "that was a terrible video, but..." Um, no it wasn't.

Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at October 25, 2012 06:49 PM (zpqa2)

263 This is what has me waking up screaming:

Obama "wins", however that happens.
Benghazi gets the full monty, and Impeachment is successful!
Welcome to the White House, President Biden.

Posted by: uterus cannon at October 25, 2012 06:50 PM (RLTt1)

264 247 Interesting that dumb ass would come out and endorse Obama yesterday (Colin Powell) when he could very well be implicated as part of the cover up. Why again was he at the hanger waiting for the bodies to come home?
Posted by: mare at October 25, 2012 06:43 PM (A98Xu)

OMG, I didn't know Powell was at Andrews Air Force Base! Yes, we must ask WHY.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:51 PM (KL49F)

265 Umm, no it's not. It's obvious that Powell is yet another unforgivable embarassment by W.
Posted by: Durka at October 25, 2012 06:45 PM (1crPI)

JEF is that you? /

I cannot vouch for what you know/don't know, but *I * know that Powell has demonstrated a malevolent streak similar to JEF's.

But please go on blaming GWB.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:52 PM (Su0W2)

266 In my heart of hearts I'm hoping General Petraeus will come forward and tell the whole truth. At least testify before Issa's committee behind closed doors.

If he is part of this clusterfuck it would truly shake my faith in good men.

Posted by: mpfs at October 25, 2012 06:48 PM (iYbLN)


I hate to break it to you but Petraeus has been a "hearts and minds" idiot in fighting arabs since the beginning. He bought off some militias in Iraq. Wow! That's never happened before ... And then he promoted the same shit in Afghanistan, rather than beat the living shit out of them, as wars with such primitives need to be prosecuted.

Why do you think Petraeus was so quick to take part in this administration? Anyone with any integrity, at all, would refuse to participate in an America-hating junta at the highest levels, unless he was fighting against them from the inside. But, Petraeus gave up any pretenses of that when joined the administration. Petraeus is knee deep in this shit with the rest of them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 06:53 PM (X3lox)

267 He is smarter than this. I think he must want an elected position someday. It makes me sick to think this way

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 06:49 PM (Dnbau)


I've been dancing around the issue quite a bit to avoid coming to the same conclusion you have for the same reason. I guess I should remember that like all members of the brass, he stepped on quite a few people on his way up. Looking for truly good guys at the top is a fool's errand.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 25, 2012 06:54 PM (+BEvt)

268 Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 06:49 PM (Dnbau)


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He might have seen good people (in the CIA) being readied for the presidential ass fucking and decided to jump in and, at least, be a buffer. We don't know and probably won't know for awhile. But I'm sure he did nothing because he was probably under direct orders to do nothing. Simple as that.

IMHO, he's probably taking the bullets that this regime is firing at the CIA.

Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 06:56 PM (uaRd0)

269 Welcome to the White House, President Biden.
Posted by: uterus cannon at October 25, 2012 06:50 PM (RLTt1)

I think BIDEN will be implicated as well. So, hello, President Boehner?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:56 PM (KL49F)

270 But I'm sure he [Petraeus] did nothing because he was probably under direct orders to do nothing. Simple as that.

Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 06:56 PM (uaRd0)


Allen West, if in that position, would have done what he thought was right for America and would have put his own career at risk to do so - as he did in Iraq.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 06:58 PM (X3lox)

271 And I think Amb. Stevens was the "man who knew too much" and that's why no help was sent.

From what I've heard so far, Stevens was of the same mind as Zero when it came to the muzz and AQ. Hell, isn't it John "al-Quds" Brennan who speaks fluent Arabic and converted to muzz? There's a YT video titled, "John Brennan Lauds the Beauty of Islam."

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 06:58 PM (tQHzJ)

272 Powell is a piece of shit and always has been. he's been a back-stabbing douchebag for the entirety of his public career, from his tenure as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs through to today.

Powell has always been a worm of the first order, of his own accord.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 06:47 PM (X3lox)

But he may have gotten that way via something nasty from way back.

Just because he's been an asshole ever since he was thrust upon the public consciousness doesn't make my supposition untrue. There are too many things that Powell does which make no sense, even for an asshole.

This situation in which he's present when the bodies of the Benghazi Four return piques my sense that there's more than meets the eye wrt to the background of General Powell.

Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:59 PM (Su0W2)

273 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 06:53 PM (X3lox)

Wasn't Petraeus the ass who came up with those dangerous "Rules of Engagement" that have killed lots of our soldiers? Also, Petraeus was an ass about Pastor Terry Jones and put a blood libel on him that it would *his* fault if any soldiers died simply b/c Jones wanted to use his 1st Amend right to burn the Koran.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:59 PM (KL49F)

274 Levin ripped Powell to shreds at the top of his show. Worth a re-listen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 25, 2012 06:59 PM (+tqYo)

275 PA is ripe for the picking. The Dems never thought they'd have to defend it so they'd really have no counter-attack ready if RR decided to take a stab.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 25, 2012 07:00 PM (yU1Dt)

276 Wasn't Petraeus the ass who came up with those dangerous "Rules of Engagement" that have killed lots of our soldiers? Also, Petraeus was an ass about Pastor Terry Jones and put a blood libel on him that it would *his* fault if any soldiers died simply b/c Jones wanted to use his 1st Amend right to burn the Koran.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 06:59 PM (KL49F)


Yep.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 07:00 PM (X3lox)

277 Why was Colin Powell there? The guy's a political prop just as were the flag-draped coffins behind the dais as TFG and Clinton lied. EVERYTHING this administration does is a political maneuver. Now with this clusterfark on their hands, they had to pull out a perceived trump card.

Does the military approve of TFG? Ha! Laughable. Hillary? Same thing. Laughable. But you know who might lend some perceived credibility to the facade? The politician posing as general Colin Powell. He would be perceived as the bridge to both Statesmen and Soldiers in service alike as well as a nice, milquetoast ornament to the gathered media and public.

Powell was political cover and Powell endorses TFG. TFG and Powell used each other for their own purposes at the expense of integrity and the lives of good men.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 25, 2012 07:01 PM (eHIJJ)

278 I told people this more than four years ago. Cankles is far, far worse than Obinga.

Far. Worse.

As bad as the Obinga Junta is, the fucking Clinton Gang raped this country more than most currently know.

But, we're finding out.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 07:02 PM (50Jxs)

279 IMHO, he's probably taking the bullets that this regime is firing at the CIA.
Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 06:56 PM (uaRd0)

And I am telling you the CIA is not taking fire, they are of the same mind as the JEF when it comes to the ME. They are all out of Georgetown and Harvard and have romantic and naive ideas about the ME that were planted in their heads in some ivy-league Middle East Studies program funded by Saudi petro dollars

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:02 PM (Dnbau)

280 Don't you see? This is the Obama campaign's October surprise. Vote for them or they'll blow their own heads off. I remember this from Blazing Saddles. It's the same gambit used by the Sheriff Bart when he arrived in Red Rock.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at October 25, 2012 07:02 PM (w41GQ)

281 Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:02 PM (Dnbau)

The CIA hurt Bush every chance they got. They are full of Dems.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 25, 2012 07:04 PM (KL49F)

282 ...Petraeus has been a "hearts and minds" idiot in fighting arabs since the beginning. He bought off some militias in Iraq. Wow! That's never happened before ...

Damn! I went looking for that pix of Petraeus wearing local garb (including head gear) eating with all the locals in a tent when he was in the sandbox (no luck). As I recall, everyone was pi$$ed at how he sucked up.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 07:05 PM (tQHzJ)

283 Posted by: baldilocks at October 25, 2012 06:59 PM (Su0W2)

The Left might have something on Powell, but they certainly don't need it. He's like the MFM, enthusiastically supporting this regime without any need for coercion.

Powell first came to my attention during the first Gulf War and made me absolutely livid when he screwed that all up, for no apparent reason. Then, when people started pushing that asinine "Powell Doctrine" - which Powell, himself, would never adhere to. It was all bluster with Powell trying to act as if he were Gen. Curtis LeMay, though Powell would never carry out anything required to actually win a war.

After that, Powell just did one thing after another that lowered my opinion of him further and further.

As to being around for the caskets to come from Benghazi - when the ghouls, Barky and Shrillary danced on the coffins with their lies and diseminations about what had happened - that is truly weird. I can only figure that Powell was playing "outside advisor" of some sort, to lend some sense of legitimacy (as if he could) to the whole ghoulish scene. Again, I doubt anyone needed to have anything on him to get him to do it. They'd probably need to have something on Powell to have kept him away.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 25, 2012 07:06 PM (X3lox)

284 And I am telling you the CIA is not taking fire, they are of the same mind as the JEF when it comes to the ME. They are all out of Georgetown and Harvard and have romantic and naive ideas about the ME that were planted in their heads in some ivy-league Middle East Studies program funded by Saudi petro dollars
Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:02 PM (Dnbau)


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For the desk weenies at Langley, I'm sure you're right. I'm talking about the people who stick their necks out on a daily basis trying to defend this country. Believe it or not, there are many of that caliber that work for the CIA.

Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 07:06 PM (uaRd0)

285 For the desk weenies at Langley, I'm sure you're right. I'm talking about the people who stick their necks out on a daily basis trying to defend this country. Believe it or not, there are many of that caliber that work for the CIA.
Posted by: Soona at October 25, 2012 07:06 PM (uaRd0)


And those are the guys that died on the roof top in Benghazi after no one came for them for 7 hours.

Patraeus is not one of those guys. The guys that give the go ahead to rescue someone are not those guys

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:08 PM (Dnbau)

286
"He also wants to know who gave the order to not rescue his son"
More likely, who was unable to make a decision.

Posted by: TOF at October 25, 2012 07:11 PM (2Aw0E)

287 >>>I think BIDEN will be implicated as well. So, hello, President Boehner?


AIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!!

Posted by: uterus cannon at October 25, 2012 07:11 PM (RLTt1)

288 I cannot imagine anyone, even a brain-dead liberal, voting for Obama. I guess that shows the limits of my imagination.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 25, 2012 07:12 PM (DuH+r)

289
And I will bet my life they were. They were sitting their aircraft waiting for the "Go" sign. And it never came.

We flew F4s through downtown Manilla to prevent a coup. A show of force may have saved two of the four men, the 2 former NAvy seals who were abandoned on a rooftop to die ALONE, after a 7 hour fire fight their shared gun caked with their own blood.
Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 06:35 PM (Dnbau)____________________________________________Perhaps this is not unlik when Klintoon drank cocktails at the golf course while Sandy Pants was trying to get him to allow the Bin Laden strike that got away. Barkey learned from the best.

Posted by: giftogab at October 25, 2012 07:14 PM (QW2hm)

290 Powell was political cover and Powell endorses TFG. TFG and Powell used each other for their own purposes at the expense of integrity and the lives of good men.

^^^This^^^

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 07:15 PM (tQHzJ)

291 on May 3, 2012 Ambassador Steven's request for a DC-3 to scramble limited US security from Tripoli to the consulate was-

denied.
Posted by: tasker at October 25, 2012 05:54 PM (r2PLg)


I keep seeing this. Do they seriously still use DC-3/R-4D/C-47/C-117's?

Iconic A/C, but goddamn.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 07:15 PM (2Bc2e)

292 288 I cannot imagine anyone, even a brain-dead liberal, voting for Obama. I guess that shows the limits of my imagination.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 25, 2012 07:12 PM (DuH+r)



Well, lets see:

Seriously deranged? Check.
Emotional Maturity of a 2nd grader? Check.
Inability to deal with reality? Check.
Loaded with self-guilt? Check.
Difficulty with math? Check.


Nah. I can imagine it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 25, 2012 07:20 PM (2Bc2e)

293 The only thing that makes sense to me of the Benghazi non intervention is that the White hut scotched any direct action as they feared a Benghazi down type of situation just weeks before an election. If that is the case then there are a lot of folks in the know who are not honoring their oaths of office and outing the culprits, Jarrett and her puppet OBlahBah!
I'm sure there was some Unconstitutional gunn running and arms dealing going on here, never forget THIS WAS OBAMAS WAR.
He never got approval from congress or the UN he went alone and overthrew a shakey ally . This blood is all on Obamas hands.
Man up gentleman and honor your oaths or be complicit in the destruction of your country!

Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 25, 2012 07:22 PM (tKXsr)

294 Slow Joe's words of condolence:

http://bit.ly/Rjh8NI

Posted by: RushBabe at October 25, 2012 07:27 PM (tQHzJ)

295 "(The) basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on; without having some real-time information about what's taking place," Panetta told Pentagon reporters. "And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation."

Panetta was referring to Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Link in nick

Posted by: Dinah Lord at October 25, 2012 07:32 PM (46UXb)

296 Man up gentleman and honor your oaths or be complicit in the destruction of your country!
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at October 25, 2012 07:22 PM (tKXsr)

word.

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:32 PM (Dnbau)

297 As the events were unfolding, the Pentagon began to move special operations forces from Europe to Sigonella Naval Air Station in Sicily. U.S. aircraft routinely fly in and out of Sigonella and there are also fighter jets based in Aviano, Italy. But while the U.S. military was at a heightened state of alert because of 9/11, there were no American forces poised and ready to move immediately into Benghazi when the attack began.
Also, the Pentagon would not send forces or aircraft into Libya—a sovereign country—without a request from the State Department and the knowledge or consent of the host nation.



DINAH if you are still here, thank you. Sounds like the JAGS are running the armed forces now though. Won't go in without permission of Lbyan govt

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:39 PM (Dnbau)

298 Woods went on to read the following statement, in honor of his son:

“I want to honor my son, Ty Woods, who responded to the cries for help and voluntarily sacrificed his life to protect the lives of other Americans. In the last few days it has become public knowledge that within minutes of the first bullet being fired the White House knew these heroes would be slaughtered if immediate air support was denied. Apparently, C-130s were ready to respond immediately. In less than an hour, the perimeters could have been secured and American lives could have been saved. After seven hours fighting numerically superior forces, my son’s life was sacrificed because of the White House’s decision. This has nothing to do with politics, this has to do with integrity and honor. My son was a true American hero. We need more heroes today. My son showed moral courage. This is an opportunity for the person or persons who made the decision to sacrifice my son’s life to stand up.”


the father of one of the men, from The Blaze

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 07:45 PM (Dnbau)

299 They probably were afraid of the freaking 20,000 surface to air missiles that they absurdly lost when they went in for this absurd "freeing" of Libya. Afraid there would be casualties, hoping for the best. Not a strategy, not a gutsy call--a cowardly political call.


Posted by: PJ at October 25, 2012 08:06 PM (DQHjw)

300 Base on a desultory web-search (without resort to archived pages), AFP (Agence France-Presse) denied that its report was the source of the claim that Amb. Stevens had been raped made by Lebanese news blog tayyar.org. The claim is repeated by something called Libyan Free Press, but LFP attributes the crime to CIA-backed Al Qaeda. Gateway Pundit has the claimed rape, too. YouTube has pulled a video pertaining to the claim.
I can't believe that the cover-up is merely an attempt to protect the memory of Stevens. Mr. Woods's question is the first one that should be answered. The second is: When will the autopsy reports be available?

Posted by: Thorvald at October 25, 2012 08:08 PM (1V6Pv)

301 The other day on Limbaugh's show, somebody called in and said there was a drone aloft above the Consulate in Benghazi collecting data. The caller claimed that drones don't just happen to appear, that they must be tasked, and implied that that tasking must be accomplished before the s**t get real.
What did they expect to see?

Posted by: Thorvald at October 25, 2012 08:12 PM (1V6Pv)

302 Ahem...

http://minx.cc/?blog=86post=334182#c19527878

Posted by: pcoast at October 25, 2012 08:45 PM (vgPhb)

303 Damn I suck at linking. Lets try again

http://minx.cc/?blog=86post=334182#c19527878

Posted by: pcoast at October 25, 2012 08:46 PM (vgPhb)

304 Screw it. I posted a link to the interview 2 days ago in a thread. Yay me.

Posted by: pcoast at October 25, 2012 08:47 PM (vgPhb)

305 May these four men rest in peace knowing the survivors in America are not going to let them down and believe lies about their deaths.

I cried hearing this father talk about Tyrone.

We have to keep pushing this even though the media continues to lie.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 25, 2012 08:55 PM (baL2B)

306 The Seals showing up screwed up the plan just like Brian Terry getting shot. The Seals ruined a good kidnapping setup.This was to be the big crisis during the election. Bill knows everything.

Posted by: pawn at October 25, 2012 09:16 PM (iMsF6)

307 In other words, it was an inside job. That's why it took so long to end. The game plan changed once the fire-fight started. The kidnappers weren't prepared for that level of resistance. That is why the drone was there. That is why no one was allowed to interfere.

Posted by: pawn at October 25, 2012 09:20 PM (iMsF6)

308 This one seems so simple . . .
1. Call Sigonella.
2. Call Seventh Fleet OPS
3. Launch the AC-130 Spooky,
4. Load the Marines into the Sea Kings or Tilt Rotors
5. Launch the Marines, and the F-18's for BARCAP
6. Hose the down the neighborhood with the Spooky - even the VC were afraid of the Spooky.
7. Bring the Tilt Rotors in over the beach
8. Bring the Spooky back in for the extraction
9. Everybody goes home
10. The FA-18s blow the place up.

The OP happens as soon as the Spooky is on station. If I can figure this out with a 20 year old battle plan - I would hope that the current crew can get this from Go to Feet Wet in 120 minutes given that Sigonella is 400nm from Benghazi . . .

from a commenter at Blackfive. And he is right. This makes no sense unless we were trying to put toothpaste back in the tube. We were trying to arm Libyan and Syrian rebels and ended up arming Al Qaeda, who then killed us with what we gave them

Posted by: Thunderb at October 25, 2012 10:01 PM (Dnbau)

309 The dichotomy is striking. Two American badasses hear and respond to the cry for help and pay the ultimate sacrifice. Obama and his team sitting, watching, with no reply for fear it would hurt his image on peace in the mIddle east and his chances of re-election.

Posted by: Bret at October 25, 2012 10:36 PM (St8rn)

310 FREE NAKOULA!

This man is nothing less than a POLITICAL PRISONER of the Hussein Regime.

Posted by: beverly at October 25, 2012 11:06 PM (ZFMCR)

311 facebook is deleting the links to lars larson
Yeah I noticed that too!

Posted by: expatinpa at October 26, 2012 07:09 AM (uW+NQ)

312
Who is this guy anyway and how do we know he was really behind this "film". Who told the MusBros about the film, if it was so obscure, how do we know that the Administration did not orchestrate every last detail of this.
What was Huma from the ummah's role?

Posted by: CLN at October 26, 2012 09:20 AM (6tbeF)

313 Were these American's on Obama's kill list?

Posted by: Joe Bidenmytime at October 27, 2012 10:44 PM (wzVrY)






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