Rob Schneider: "As a Liberal, As a Democrat, There's No Way I Can Support Barack Obama Again"

Three points:

No, Rob Schneider isn't influential.

But, this is more confirmation of the cascade. If you think maybe Rob Schneider's a little bit conservative because Adam Sandler's his pal, no, Rob Schneider is a way out there left liberal. Wayyy out there. I caught him on Adam Carolla a ways back (IIRC) and he was just silly. Peace this, vegan that.

I don't know the context for his rejection of Obama but I'm guessing when he speaks of "the bureaucracy" he probably means something to do with drone strikes.

Last point: They have an important mini-conversation about race. The point they agree on is that "we're going to have crappy black presidents just like we've had crappy white presidents; we don't keep a crappy president just because he's black, just the same as we don't keep a crappy white one."

That's an important statement about race. Counterintuitively, I think it's better for race relations if Obama is judged just like any other president and thus given the boot.

The election of Barack Obama was a powerful statement about progress in racial matters of the country. So, too, would be his defeat: Race doesn't matter, or, at least, shouldn't matter, and people will in fact look beyond color to judge the content of one's character.

Or, in this case, record.

This is an interesting point that John McWhorter and Glen Loury discussed a year ago. I wrote about it at the time:

he end (starting around 26:30, but there are preludes to the idea earlier) is about these two black guys trying to figure out, intellectually and personally, what an Obama 2012 loss means. Both voted for him and were "euphoric" over the election, they both say. And the interesting thing here is that they're guessing as to the black reaction to a loss, the natural tendency to take a loss by Obama as a loss themselves (in the exact same way an Obama win was a win for themselves), and what the whole reaction to that will say about equality in the end -- what I took from it is that they're saying blacks will be equal not only when a black man can be elected president ("as Jesus," McWhorter notes) and triumph, but also when he can lose and fail.

They don't precisely say that, but that's what they're talking about.

The Triumphant Jesus part is a sort of immature Hero's Narrative, the Magic Negro thing so beloved by Hollywood, because blacks remain in that sort of narrative not fully human, but abstracted symbols of virtue or dignity in oppression or what have you. Whereas a man failing is just a man failing -- and that's human, not symbolic.

....

Anyway, fairly interesting, especially about the last question, the -- for lack of a better word -- normalization of blackness, the routinization of coloredness, such that the failure and defeat of the Great Black Hope is... well, something that just happens, just as anyone might fail. Not something pregnant with heavy symbolism or Lessons About America -- just something that happens. Something human, and not something particularly freighted with Meaning just because the human who failed was darker skinned than some.

Posted by: Ace at 02:48 PM



Comments

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 02:49 PM (8y9MW)

2
I always liked Rob Schneider.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 02:49 PM (jUytm)

3 Mitt Romney is leading Obama by a 6:1 margin among SNL cast members from 20 years ago.

Add that to your model and Bogart it, Nate Silver

Posted by: The Q at October 23, 2012 02:50 PM (B/yDO)

4 Cast out the heretic!! Cast out the heretic!!

Posted by: enlightened & progressive leftie at October 23, 2012 02:50 PM (DKxu1)

5
I wish they'd write a movie specifically for Rob Schneider and Jon Lovitz.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 02:50 PM (jUytm)

6 You can DO it!

Posted by: uterus cannon at October 23, 2012 02:50 PM (3ZtZW)

7
Just peeked in on Drudge's lead article -- Inside I found this gem "He'll be in constant motion - making voter calls and sleeping aboard Air Force
One as he flies overnight Wednesday from Nevada to Tampa" -- How freakin long does it take to fly - 3 hours?
#obamabytrain

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (zNDIM)

8
MEN BEHAVING BADLY was one of the funniest sitcoms on network tv.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (jUytm)

9 I'm going to have to drink fast to get buzzed by the time this election is called for Romney.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (HrBwt)

10 Yep, still entertained.

Posted by: Maximus Preferencus Cascadius at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (BrQrN)

11 Wasn't he the guy that played the building Super in One Day at a Time?

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 23, 2012 02:52 PM (zNDIM)

12 MEN BEHAVING BADLY was one of the funniest sitcoms on network tv.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (jUytm)


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Agree. I was really disappointed that it was so short-lived.

Posted by: Soona at October 23, 2012 02:52 PM (Uq53m)

13 Romney has the Man-Whore vote sewed up! Looking gooooood.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 23, 2012 02:52 PM (71LDo)

14 No, Rob Schneider is not "influential" but, nevertheless, he's part of the crowd that (sadly) is. If enough of the Hollywood crowd start running from Obama, his support weakens elsewhere, too.

On a completely different note: still slogging, ace?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 02:53 PM (8y9MW)

15 we don't keep a crappy president just because he's black,

It's galling that people are stupid enough that this even needs to be pointed out.

Posted by: eleven at October 23, 2012 02:53 PM (KXm42)

16 the hot chick was hysterical.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny, ROMNEY/RYAN 2012 at October 23, 2012 02:53 PM (Ho2rs)

17
...and he's going to find out just how hard being conservative really is...

Posted by: trailer narrator voice at October 23, 2012 02:53 PM (xXhWA)

18 OT - finally received my Bug-A-Salt weapon in the mail today! whoohoo!

Posted by: the Butcher at October 23, 2012 02:54 PM (8g9qq)

19 "I wish they'd write a movie specifically for Rob Schneider and Jon Lovitz."

I'm always working on one!

Posted by: Adam Sandler at October 23, 2012 02:54 PM (71LDo)

20 The election of Barack Obama was a powerful statement about progress in
racial matters of the country. So, too, would be his defeat: Race
doesn't matter, or, at least, shouldn't matter, and people will in fact look beyond color to judge the content of one's character.


That's fine and all, but you know what the lefties will still say?

RACISM!!!!!

It doesn't fucking matter what kind of colour-blind criteria you set. Any failure of a black person is because whites are racist. There's no other reason. Not a black person's performance or results, or lack thereof. If judgement goes against a black person it is ALWAYS because of racism.

That's what where we are today.

Posted by: EC at October 23, 2012 02:55 PM (GQ8sn)

21 Just peeked in on Drudge's lead article -- Inside I found this gem "He'll be in constant motion - making voter calls and sleeping aboard Air Force One as he flies overnight Wednesday from Nevada to Tampa" -- How freakin long does it take to fly - 3 hours?#obamabytrain
Posted by: CheshireLion at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (zNDIM)


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Being the preezy is hard, dude.

Posted by: Soona at October 23, 2012 02:55 PM (Uq53m)

22 I added an interesting conversation between John McWhorter and Glen Loury, too centrist/somewhat conservative black intellectuals, on the meaning of an Obama defeat.

Posted by: ace at October 23, 2012 02:55 PM (LCRYB)

23 People want to be on the winning side. The writing is on the wall for Obama...

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 23, 2012 02:56 PM (DGIjM)

24 The election of Barack Obama was a powerful statement about progress in racial matters of the country.

I'll guess we'll never see eye to eye here. He was voted in *because* of his skin color. That's not progress; that's the same as if he had been kept out because of skin color.

Posted by: dogfish at October 23, 2012 02:56 PM (N2yhW)

25 Rob Schneider is no Al Franken I'll tell ya

Posted by: meh at October 23, 2012 02:56 PM (W2qJe)

26 I love that Nate Silver's latest post (link in my handle) acknowledges that the national polling is dead even and says "neither candidate had an edge, even in the second decimal place."

However, his calculation of the odds of Obama winning the popular remain at 66.2% because of a complicated mix of witchcraft and LALALALACAN'THEARYOU!

Posted by: Hedley Lamar at October 23, 2012 02:56 PM (RdCfV)

27 Not a BFD. But when you lose Will Farrel, turn out the lights, Cowboy.

Posted by: fluffy at October 23, 2012 02:57 PM (4pSIn)

28 Love the Deuce Bigelow-Gigilow movies.

**

BALL-HAIR!!!

**

Thats one big bitch!


Posted by: dananjcon at October 23, 2012 02:57 PM (eavT+)

29 Meh. I guess Schneider matters to someone. Maybe his mom?

Posted by: marcus at October 23, 2012 02:57 PM (GGCsk)

30 "He'll be in constant motion..."

He's back on the nose candy...

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 23, 2012 02:57 PM (S8edY)

31 Sounds to me like he's talking about the proverbial 47%. Perhaps he really does care about them, unlike most of his ilk.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 02:57 PM (R4cjW)

32

ot

This "barry dealt and did cocaine" story is too funny.

Whether it's real or not, the Romney camp's stance of we don't want to swim in this sewer makes it a story, anyway. Just a "Romney's a good guy" story for not covering what a skank obama is.

lol

Posted by: 14 days at October 23, 2012 02:57 PM (LpQbZ)

33 Preference.Cascade.....

Posted by: fu52 at October 23, 2012 02:58 PM (NYXC6)

34 I like the fact that I have no idea who mostthose people are. Adam Sandler I've heard of, he's like a comedic actorwho's not funny or something.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 23, 2012 02:58 PM (1Y+hH)

35 Has Hillary tried to seance my ass up yet for an endorsement?

Posted by: Phil Hartman at October 23, 2012 02:59 PM (e0xKF)

36 He's still an idiot, just not such and idiot that he can deny the sky is blue.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 23, 2012 02:59 PM (n9F1h)

37 Panic. Obama has locked up the globally influential Kathy Griffin vote. No shriveled has-been ginger whores will cast a single vote for Mitt. All is lost.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Ann Althouse has a more racially sensitive hoo-hoo than you at October 23, 2012 02:59 PM (AZGON)

38 Had to Bing Rob Schneider to find out who he is. For those like me he is a SNL comic meaning that about 1/2 dozen under 30 people watch him. He was born and raised in San Francisco. That tells you all you need to know.


If Obama has lost him and his ilk he is in deep shit. As I said, wave coming. I may have to revise my luck to get 10 statement and go ahead and say 47 State RR-Carter blowout.

Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 02:59 PM (YdQQY)

39


Clint used a can opener on Hollywood.

Watching, as one by one of these jumping beans fly out of the can, is pleasing.

Posted by: 14 days at October 23, 2012 02:59 PM (LpQbZ)

40 This is roughly the same problem that Scott Adams has with Obama, although Adams is more upset about the feds coming in and taking down medical marijuana stores.

They're pissed off because Obama hasn't stopped enough of the federal government for their liking.

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at October 23, 2012 02:59 PM (e8kgV)

41
As far as Schneider "mattering", it matters because if there's one of him, there's a million more, and as they talk to each other about this - and talk radio is a great way to do that - they learn from each other that it's OK.

"Preference cascade?" You betcha. This is EXACTLY what it looks like.

This is SO over...

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (R4cjW)

42 The defeat of Barack Obama will be an even more powerful statement about race in this country than his election.

It will say we've overcome issues such as racial guilt as a motivation for contra-intellectual behavior. It says we will judge a man based on his capabilities or the lack thereof. Solely. Without prejudice.

Posted by: marcus at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (GGCsk)

43 Idolatry is a sin, and it is folly to worship any man.

It is amazing how the Gods of the Copybook Headings keep coming back again and again, isn't it? Almost like it was planned that way.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - I'm Back in Slacks! at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (hLRSq)

44 Libs will stay home; we won't.

Nice.

Posted by: LASue at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (gjIQF)

45
"You ain't so bad, you ain't so bad, you ain't nothin'."

Remember the rematch in Rocky III when Rocky said "YOU AIN'T SO BAD" to CLUBBER LANG?

Clubber was discombobulated. He was expecting the same soft chump as in the first fight.

Mitt Romney: Rocky
Obama: Clubber Lang

This is the rematch.

Romney showed us in the first debate OBAMA AIN'T SO BAD.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (jUytm)

46 The point they agree on is that "we're going to have crappy black presidents just like we've had crappy white presidents; we don't keep a crappy president just because he's black, just the same as we don't keep a crappy white one."

That's an important statement about race. Counterintuitively, I think it's better for race relations if Obama is judged just like any other president and thus given the boot.


That's assuming that people want good race relations and a color-blind society. That's not the case anymore. The African-American Left wants a new aristocracy with special privileges. Affirmative action -- hard or soft -- only benefits the elites like Obama and actually hurts minorities who actually have to work for a living and who can't be shunted off to a meaningless job with a meaningless title.

It turns out that the US president is not, in fact, a meaningless title where a puppet can be placed while the bureaucracy churns on.

What I don't get is why African-Americans support Obama for racial reasons. Frankly, he's making them look bad.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (T0NGe)

47 Samuel L. Jackson says Rob Schneider had better wake the fuck up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (QDOTI)

48 21
Just peeked in on Drudge's lead article -- Inside I found this gem
"He'll be in constant motion - making voter calls and sleeping aboard
Air Force One as he flies overnight Wednesday from Nevada to Tampa" --
How freakin long does it take to fly - 3 hours?#obamabytrain

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 23, 2012 02:51 PM (zNDIM)

**
Heheh...a constant state if Statism.

Posted by: dananjcon at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (eavT+)

49 No wonder Schieder did such a good job as a left wing new-ager in "Grown Ups"

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (8YINY)

50 What will the Ohio Democrats be doing with Obama votes?

MAKING COPIES!

Posted by: The Q at October 23, 2012 03:00 PM (B/yDO)

51 I know it's just a dream, and it will never happen. Nevertheless it is a happy dream wherein CA goes Red...

And then I wake up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (8y9MW)

52 Phhhhht Rob Schneider! I'm waiting for the Garrett Morris endorsement! Then it's allllllll over for Prezzy Prissy McDroneBomber.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (DLu2s)

53 Where's Romney today? Even this asswipe is impressed......



@ZekeJMiller





It sounds like a sports game outside this Romney rally. big roaring crowd


Posted by: Tami at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (X6akg)

54 Clint used a can opener on Hollywood.

Very well phrased!

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Ann Althouse has a more racially sensitive hoo-hoo than you at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (AZGON)

55 Watching, as one by one of these jumping beans fly out of the can, is pleasing.

"I'm an ultra-liberal Democrat who believes in mandatory gay marriage even for straights and retroactive abortions for rednecks, but I just can't support this Obama guy."

Posted by: AmishDude at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (T0NGe)

56 All well and good. Now if the left will stop calling conservative blacks uncle toms and sellouts and house n*****s, maybe we can finally get a good black president.

I hope Colonel West is still up for it in 2016 or 2020.

Maybe Vice for Ryan.

Chris Matthews will be in an institute by then.

Posted by: Jcw46 at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (Vh0f5)

57 "...and thus given the boot."

Boot? BOOT!? Codeword alert! Codeword alert!

Nazi!

Now where's my damn scotch-n-scotch with scotch cubes?!

Posted by: Tingles Matthews at October 23, 2012 03:01 PM (eHIJJ)

58 >>>Wasn't he the guy that played the building Super in One Day at a Time?

I thought he was the guy that says, "You're gonna need a bigger boat."

Posted by: Fritz at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (vm7ot)

59 No wonder Schieder did such a good job as a left wing new-ager in "Grown Ups"

Yeah, but 2 out of 3 of his daughters were hawt!

Posted by: EC at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (GQ8sn)

60 Now I see what you were setting up with that, "people not as funny as David Spade" crack in the last post. Rob Schneider. Very clever, ace.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (owERe)

61 "the bureaucracy"

Okay Rob, whatever.

Posted by: WisRich at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (hdpay)

62 ‏@JohnKerry
wasn't joking when I said I'd need exorcism post-debate tonight after months playing Mitt Romney

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (DGIjM)

63 It doesn't fucking matter what kind of colour-blind criteria you set. Any failure of a black person is because whites are racist. There's no other reason. Not a black person's performance or results, or lack thereof. If judgement goes against a black person it is ALWAYS because of racism.

Except for the lunatic left, I suspect most people are pretty much done accepting chargesfrom the race card.I'm guessing that when the race hustlers and whatever percentage of blacks that think that way try to play it in the future, they're going to find a slightly different reaction from the majority.

If Obama's(unintentionally) done one good thing for the country, it's that.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (BrQrN)

64 How much of a jackass do you have to be to dump TFG overboard for the ONE thing (Reapering tangos)where SCFOAMF and Republicans actuallyagree? That's some powerful kind of stupid that can only be grown in a Hollywood bubble.

Posted by: Jaws at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (4I3Uo)

65 "This "barry dealt and did cocaine" story is too funny"

Does he have any right now, you think?

Posted by: Ashley Biden at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (TpXEI)

66 I wonder if that will be the new trendy Hollywood position "Oh I can't vote for Obama because he's betrayed all the things I hold dear, what with those drone strikes and illegal detentions and failure to close Gitmo. It just would be horrible to support that and after he lied to us about it!"


That allows the person saying this to maintain their position of ever so pure liberal piety while getting said person off the hook for Romney getting elected.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (Gk3SS)

67 You want to know how many Schneiders there are out there? I have seen EXACTLY ONE Obama/Biden '12 sign in my town here in western NY. I think I saw my first Obama bumper sticker -the low-life slogan "GM is alive; Bin Laden is Dead". Here, where GM sold them out to Delphi, then Obama stole 2/3 of the non-union pensions of the Delphi retirees.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 03:03 PM (R4cjW)

68 What am I, middle-aged, irrelevant pasty white chopped liver?

Posted by: Madonna at October 23, 2012 03:03 PM (QDOTI)

69 White men can't jump...out of the way of my Greek chariot!

Posted by: Jesse Jackson Jr. at October 23, 2012 03:03 PM (Y//vu)

70 Counterintuitively, I think it's better for race relations if Obama is judged just like any other president and thus given the boot.

There's nothing counterintuitive to it; when we use affirmative action standards everybody loses, and I think this is something everybody understands (but might not admit).

Posted by: joncelli, Not as Funny As David Spade at October 23, 2012 03:03 PM (RD7QR)

71 I'm glad Romney is staying away from the Obama dealt coke revelation. (Not that's it's really a revelation).

I really don't want the next President dealing with kind of crap when there are big issues to tackle. Just like I wish the current president spent time on real issues instead of campaigning, hobnobbing with Jaz Z and Pimp with a Limp and going on Letterman.

Posted by: LASue at October 23, 2012 03:03 PM (gjIQF)

72 Just dont try explaining any of this to Chrissy Mathews.... you racists.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 23, 2012 03:03 PM (C2//T)

73 Obama put his four year plan in a twenty page "booklet"? Seems like a binder would be better.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 23, 2012 03:04 PM (BVkEs)

74 The race hustlers know that it will be a big deal for white voters who voted for Obama in 2008 beccause of his race to vote for Romney this time around. The limits of their "white guilt" power will finally be determined, and these voters might actually find it empowering to say "no" to the race hustle and start applying it elsewhere.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 23, 2012 03:04 PM (DXfWW)

75 I wasn't kidding. I want to buy cocaine.

Posted by: Ashley Biden at October 23, 2012 03:04 PM (TpXEI)

76 I especially liked Rob Schneider as The Stapler.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 23, 2012 03:04 PM (eHIJJ)

77 ‏@JohnKerry

wasn't joking when I said I'd need exorcism post-debate tonight after months playing Mitt Romney

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 23, 2012 03:02 PM (DGIjM)



The left....they're just such lovely, lovely people.

Posted by: Tami at October 23, 2012 03:04 PM (X6akg)

78
I didn't know he considered himself a liberal Dem. I thought his gigalo movies were hilariously politically incorrect, the opposite of the typical Democrat these days.
Maybe he is "classically" liberal, a rare breed indeed.

Posted by: SamIam at October 23, 2012 03:04 PM (VDpzM)

79 Anyway, liberals should be thrilled. Everything can return to normal in a few months. They will be able to hate, despise, mock, humiliate, malign and say Hitler is no different than... the president.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Ann Althouse has a more racially sensitive hoo-hoo than you at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (AZGON)

80 The future of a more "diverse" America with whites just another minority is probably not a future that is a stable, peaceful future.

Blacks vote 95% Democrat. And they probably will always vote overwhelmingly for whichever party is considered the pro-black party.

Just look at other countries that lack a dominant ethnic group. Americans are just humans and we'll behave like other humans.

Countries with no dominant ethnic group end up with the competing ethnic groups voting as ethnic blocs. Ethnic bloc voting means more corruption, more crime, more hatred, more poverty. more authoritarianism.

How many peaceful, stable multi-ethnic societies are there in the world?

Canada and the UK still are overwhelmingly white -- much more so than the US.

Countries where the largest ethnic bloc is barely a majority tend not to remain countries in the long haul.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (ZPrif)

81 It's hard for me to get worked up because some wack job liberal does not think obama is "liberal" enough?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (oSFWF)

82 One thing to know about Rob. He's from my Bay Area, Calif., town, and when he hit it big he poured tons of his own money into the local public schools music programs...basically saving it...and he's still doing that. He came up with that on his own, too. He also comes from an interesting, and solid, Filipino family who were for a time involved in local politics...as both dems and reps. Moderates. Business people. Good to see that he's as sensible as he always seemed to me.

Posted by: watchtheface at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (ROdby)

83 "we don't keep a crappy president just because he's
black, just the same as we don't keep a crappy white one."

Wish that was short enough for a bumper sticker.

Posted by: Dang© at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (R18D0)

84 See?? I was Mister Bad Guy when I said it. Now EVERYBODY wants to cut his nuts off!!

Posted by: Jesse Jackson (Senior, Not The BatCrap Insane One) at October 23, 2012 03:06 PM (DLu2s)

85 I always figured Chris Rock would subtlely break from the pack with the line: "I'm so glad we have a black man as president. He proved that a black man can f**k up the country as good as a white man!"

But, alas, that revelation never came.

Posted by: CJL at October 23, 2012 03:06 PM (3wa9V)

86 At least Schneider didn't say Obama should be serving him coffee. Only rapists say that.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Ann Althouse has a more racially sensitive hoo-hoo than you at October 23, 2012 03:07 PM (AZGON)

87 I changed my mind. This guy isn't smart enough to get us coffee!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, Looking for a Few Binders Full of Women at October 23, 2012 03:07 PM (DLu2s)

88 "I thought he was the guy that says, "You're gonna need a bigger boat."

That was Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 23, 2012 03:08 PM (71LDo)

89 Schneider was funny impersonating Elvis


not that anyone else has ever done that...

Posted by: Capt. Yossarian at October 23, 2012 03:08 PM (Dll6b)

90 How many peaceful, stable multi-ethnic societies are there in the world?



Canada and the UK still are overwhelmingly white -- much more so than the US.



Countries where the largest ethnic bloc is barely a majority tend not to remain countries in the long haul.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (ZPrif)

How many stable, single ethnic societies are there in the world? It not like Haiti or Zaire is a paradise because everyone is the same color there.The world is more complicated than that.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 23, 2012 03:08 PM (z1N6a)

91 Oldcat, are you being retarded?

Obviously by saying the multi-ethnic societies tend to be corrupt and fracture is not the same as saying that all homogenous societies prosper.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 23, 2012 03:09 PM (ZPrif)

92 Countries with no dominant ethnic group end up with the competing ethnic groups voting as ethnic blocs. Ethnic bloc voting means more corruption, more crime, more hatred, more poverty. more authoritarianism.

How many peaceful, stable multi-ethnic societies are there in the world?

Canada and the UK still are overwhelmingly white -- much more so than the US.

Countries where the largest ethnic bloc is barely a majority tend not to remain countries in the long haul.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 23, 2012 03:05 PM (ZPrif)

So, are you saying we should start making white babies, cause, ladies, I'm ready to rumble...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 03:09 PM (136wp)

93


heh. as always.

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog
The election will be decided in 4 states: Confusion, Desperation, Panic and Psychosis. #allsolidlyleaningObama

Posted by: 14 days at October 23, 2012 03:09 PM (LpQbZ)

94 But, alas, that revelation never came. Posted by: CJL at October 23, 2012 03:06 PM (3wa9V)

Actually, it's just more proof, as if we needed more, of liberal black racism.

In this bizzarro world it's not racist to vote for a guy because of the color of his skin, but it's racist if you vote for a guy because of the color of his skin.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 23, 2012 03:09 PM (sbV1u)

95 You want to know how many Schneiders there are out there?

Still no Obama signs or bumper stickers in my 80% black development...with 800 houses...in the heart of very blue Palm Beach county.

You couldn't swing a 2x4 without hitting one in 2008, and all the teenagers were wearing Obama t-shirts.

I've only seen one Obama t-shirt, and that was 6 months ago, and it was a 2008 shirt. Nothing since. NOTHING.

O-thusiasm levels here are subterranean.

Posted by: @PurpAv at October 23, 2012 03:09 PM (S8edY)

96 Forget that noise. He still has my vote locked up. And you dismiss the 'celebrity that had a big hit singing about bananas in pidgin English in the 1950's' demographic at your peril!!

Posted by: Harry Belafonte at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (DLu2s)

97 Most countries are racially homogenous, and that does not equate to either prosperity or stability


think Ghana...

Posted by: Capt. Yossarian at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (Dll6b)

98


OP NOES!

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President Barack Obama has offended the bayonet community ... TMZ has learned.

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were shocked and even offended when Obama brought up the weapon during
last night's debate.

FYI -- Obama was going after Romney when he
said, "You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer
ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and
bayonets, because the nature of our military's changed."



According
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becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations."

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from Bayonet Inc. -- a leading military surplus outlet that specializes
in bayonets -- who tells us he believes Obama's comment was "ignorant
... because our soldiers still use bayonets."

He adds, “[Bayonets] are still distributed to the military all the time -- he should get educated on it”



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Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Ali Muhammad Surpra-izi Amin U'rbu T'hol wright at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (ovpNn)

99 Obama's policies over the last four years, while perhaps not popular nationally, are not seen quite so negatively in some of the swing states.

For instance, northern Ohio.

Posted by: greg at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (s2fu6)

100 88 "I thought he was the guy that says, "You're gonna need a bigger boat."

That was Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 23, 2012 03:08 PM (71LDo)

He also played the Titanic in "Titanic". So boats are BD's thing...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (136wp)

101 Are we still discussing Rob Schneider? This is going to cut into his 15 minutes.

Posted by: fluffy at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (4pSIn)

102 or Liberia; Sierra Leona, aka Conflict Diamond City

Posted by: Capt. Yossarian at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (Dll6b)

103 I'll take Unfunny Never-Was'ns for six hundred, Alex.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 23, 2012 03:10 PM (zgHLA)

104 "Last point: They have an important mini-conversation about race. The
point they agree on is that 'we're going to have crappy black presidents
just like we've had crappy white presidents; we don't keep a crappy
president just because he's black, just the same as we don't keep a
crappy white one.'"

Unfortunately, this is the first (half) black President. Emphasis on the "first" part.

And the liberals I know are all genuinely terrified that if that first black-ish President fails -- hell, if he is anything less than an utterly triumphant success -- then it will be unfairly cited as a precedent that "blacks can't do the job".

Entirely illogical and emotive nonsense, but these are liberals we're talking about here. And this belief is VERY strongly held. I've said the race is closer than the polls have it. Part of that is this concept that Obama _can not be allowed_ to fail and lose for fear of the consequences for other black Presidential aspirants. It will drive liberals to mount desperate last ditch vote pushes. You see it already.

Of course, what they need to be told is, "Better not pick an inept and corrupt and arrogant black guy for the first time at bat. Whoops! You did. That's your problem now. Should have taken more time in candidate selection."

My own view is that the next black President, if there is one, will have to come from the GOP. (Allen West, I'm looking at you.) Because at the rate Hispanics are taking over the Democratic party, they'll soon have the voting muscle to insist on one of their own, and they will thus insist. And once they've done that, the demographic balance will never again favor a black candidate.

Reflect that Los Angeles, a deep blue Democratic city, used to have a black mayor. Then the population of Hispanics rocketed. No more black mayors now, though there are blacks who would like to be mayor. There's a Hispanic mayor of L.A. today and there will probably be a Hispanic mayor in L.A. from now until the sun burns out.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 23, 2012 03:11 PM (ymG7s)

105 Leone. my bad.

Posted by: Capt. Yossarian at October 23, 2012 03:11 PM (Dll6b)

106 I think many of the lib actors are trying to get in good graces with conservative producers. Plus they know their liberal fan base is broke and don't buy tickets to see movies anymore......

Posted by: izoneguy at October 23, 2012 03:12 PM (oKH8p)

107 "we're going to have crappy black presidents just like we've had crappy white presidents; we don't keep a crappy president just because he's black, just the same as we don't keep a crappy white one."
___

Jimmah Cahtah lost after one term and he was white as the driven snow, not even a wigger.

*should I denounce myself now?*

Posted by: kallisto at October 23, 2012 03:12 PM (jm/9g)

108 "I think it's better for race relations if Obama is judged just like any other president..."

Not counterintuitive.

Posted by: itsonlywords at October 23, 2012 03:12 PM (GeY0s)

109
"46... What I don't get is why African-Americans support Obama for racial reasons. Frankly, he's making them look bad."


Reminds me of the Voter ID situation. Basically, the Dems are claiming, "you black people are too lazy, stupid, and generally incompetent to get registered to vote."They insult themselves by putting up with that. If they had a clue, or some self-respect, they'd be kicking those guys asses for saying that about them.


My libtard brother got on the Voter ID bandwagon. I said, "It's silly to suggest that out Democrat cousins in PA are somehow more challenged in the process than our Republican cousins." He got very angry and frustrated. As a guy with 4 biracial kids, he couldn't go any further with his argument, but insisted that it was a "pernicious" scheme by evil Republicans to suppress the Demvote.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 03:12 PM (R4cjW)

110 But Schneider is now shaking and sweating, in the fetal position, and has lost control of his sphincters.

It's the Jew in him that is punishing him for not supporting Obama.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 23, 2012 03:12 PM (2b4yb)

111 AmishDude: "The African-American Left wants a new aristocracy with special privileges."

Sadly, too true. But beyond that, it's their livelihood. If they cannot promulgate racial tensions and create wedge issues out of whole cloth on which they become voices for the "oppressed," then they don't have power or, even more importantly, a job. Self-preservation is in play so to accept the premise that a Black man can lose just like a White man is simply unacceptable. They cannot have such a development for it halts their own. They don't actually give a sh*t that Obama wins. They give a sh*t because they themselves might lose.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 23, 2012 03:13 PM (eHIJJ)

112 Barry is just a stupider David Dinkins at a larger scale, he'll be washed down the drain of forgettable.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 23, 2012 03:14 PM (136wp)

113 new up

Posted by: Vic at October 23, 2012 03:14 PM (YdQQY)

114 Back on Uncle Sam's Plantation
Another racist book by a racisty racist.

http://tinyurl.com/y4hx27g

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 23, 2012 03:14 PM (tf9Ne)

115 Examples from Africa are fucking retarded since there's never been a modern, prosperous, stable country in all of sub-Saharan Africa. And saying they are homogeneous is ignorant of the tribal systems and the massive ethnic diversity among black Africans. Blacks aren't all the same.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 23, 2012 03:14 PM (ZPrif)

116
Kudos to Rob Schneider for speaking out.

I hope it helps in getting some other Dems to vote against the power-hungry JEF.

Posted by: wheatie at October 23, 2012 03:14 PM (ipkPX)

117 A guy I work with just reported his ding bat wife and equally ding batty daughter (previous Obama voters) just voted for Romney. I am happy to report that my daughter (who, in a rare moment of ding battery, also voted for Obama) has voted for Romney. I believe we can extrapolate this info outward into other families across the fruited plain...

Posted by: Janetoo at October 23, 2012 03:15 PM (IgUON)

118 "But Schneider is now shaking and sweating, in the fetal position, and has lost control of his sphincters."

There's an app for that.

Posted by: The New Mini iPad at October 23, 2012 03:15 PM (71LDo)

119 O-thusiasm levels here are subterranean.

My brother-in-law still wears his Obama button 24/7. He doesn't have a bumper sticker, because he doesn't own a car. And he can't put out a lawn sign, because he's lived with his parents for the last 40 years. He can't talk about it on Facebook, because Mom doesn't believe in the internet and they don't have a hookup to it.

I've wanted to ask him if he wears the Obama button when he picks up his bipolar meds or SSDI check, but I just can't be that cruel. To my wife, that is.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 23, 2012 03:15 PM (DLu2s)

120 What kind of place are you going to be out drinking at when it's called? I'm thinking of going to a Lib hangout for teh schadenfreude...

Posted by: uterus cannon at October 23, 2012 03:15 PM (3ZtZW)

121 I hope Colonel West is still up for it in 2016 or 2020.

Maybe Vice for Ryan.
===========
In my dream it goes like this:
Romney/Ryan 2012-2020
Ryan/West 2020-2028
West/[it doesn't matter] 2028-2036

Yeeeeeeah.

Anyway, there will be another black president, there will not, however, be another black liberal president.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 23, 2012 03:18 PM (imtbm)

122
I don't know about your first point, Ace.

Rob Schneider is at least as influential as the dipshit who writes Dilbert.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 23, 2012 03:18 PM (Bg/r1)

123 >>Where's Romney today?

Nevada. Then on to Colorado.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 23, 2012 03:20 PM (TMB3S)

124 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 23, 2012 03:21 PM (6o4Fb)

125 "It is a testament to this great nation that we've had a crappy black President."

Posted by: Tommy V at October 23, 2012 03:21 PM (ZYlKz)

126 What we are also seeing here is the 5th stage of grief -- acceptance. Pissy Chrissy is still at stage 4 -- depression.

It's a beautiful thing to behold.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 23, 2012 03:21 PM (ccXZP)

127 I especially liked Rob Schneider as The Stapler

I liked him when he was a carrot.

Posted by: Armando at October 23, 2012 03:22 PM (5iuEW)

128 "Rob Schneider is at least as influential as the dipshit who writes Dilbert.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 23, 2012 03:18 PM (Bg/r1)"

I suspect Rob Schneider is a little more humble than Scott Adams at least.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 23, 2012 03:23 PM (TpXEI)

129
@104

All true, but I submit to you some fine points.

To call Obama even "half-black" is misleading. It suggests that half of his ancestry or background is that of an American black. It is not. Most American blacks don't even go back to Kenya, and Obama certainly didn't grow up in a black neighborhood. It is more accurate to say he is biracial, and half-Kenyan.

Second, the devoutly held belief sounds true, but it is disingenous. There's a lot of garbage under the hood. They just push it - when they know it's wrong - just to try to pressure others into supporting him.

More than that, Obama was the "liberal Massiah" in a number of other ways that they don't want to talk about. For one thing, he's well-connected to the most radical left; he's a card-carrying socialist, with connections to outrigfht cummunists. They loved his book, which was their version of the Bible - the magical foretoldstory of the origin of the Savior, with everything in it they love to hear.

More still, it proves that THEY'RE WRONG. He was everything they idealze and love, and he proved that all that crap they believe DOESN'T WORK.

To see still more of thedisingenous nature, just look at how they reacted to Herman Cain - a REAL black man who might have gone the distance. They're simply FULL OF IT. Plain and simple.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 03:24 PM (R4cjW)

130 This is surprising.

Posted by: RJ at October 23, 2012 03:29 PM (QTVh2)

131
"117A guy I work with just reported his ding bat wife and equally ding batty daughter (previous Obama voters) just voted for Romney. I am happy to report that my daughter (who, in a rare moment of ding battery, also voted for Obama) has voted for Romney. I believe we can extrapolate this info outward into other families across the fruited plain..."



Where?

Posted by: Optimizer at October 23, 2012 03:37 PM (R4cjW)

132 "...the natural tendency to take a loss by Obama as a loss for themselves (in the exact same way an Obama win was a win for themselves)..."

Except that many blacks have learned the hard lesson that a win for Obama was not a win for themselves. so no big shakesif cake boi goes down, either. Nobody is going to riot on his behalf.

Posted by: 66chevelle at October 23, 2012 03:45 PM (QjSgY)

133 Cue the twitterverse making fun of Schneider's movies.

Posted by: Extremist Centrist at October 23, 2012 03:50 PM (9eDbm)

134 Rob Schneider derp de derp. Derp de derpity derpy derp. Until one day, the derpa derpa derpaderp. Derp de derp, da teedily dumb. From the creators of Der, and Tum Ta Tittaly Tum Ta Too, Rob Schneider is Da Derp Dee Derp Da Teetley Derpee Derpee Dumb. Rated PG-13.

Posted by: The Chap with the App at October 23, 2012 03:55 PM (fscec)

135 I agree with McWhorter/ Loury (if their take is as Ace summarized; didn't watch the video).

I know some on the right foresee the possibility of race riots and so on if Obama loses. I don't buy it; never have. White Democrats at the NYT etc. may take to their fainting couches or go apoplectic. Blacks, not so much. They'll be disappointed, but they'll take it in stride. And mostly, they'll be disappointed in *Obama*.

With a few exceptions, it's not blacks pushing the "Romney Romney voters = racist" line, the "they hate Obama because he's black" line. It's white leftists and liberals like Chris Matthews, the lily white MSNBC crew, celebrities like Garofalo, etc.

Black Americans of course still have some significant psychological/ emotional investment in the idea of a black man as POTUS, and most of them will probably vote for Obama. But there's nowhere near that 2008 level of identification with Obama as an icon. IIRC Chris Rock already had a line a while back (don't remember what it was) subtly distancing himself as a black man from Obama (or Obama's "white half").

IMO, blacks use the race card, of course, because (as human beings, and as all human beings are apt to use what's convenient or advantageous to them) it's an advantage, a tool, a weapon. And to some significant extent, in many cases, it's sincere. But IMO blacks are also the first to know, to realize and recognize when and to what extent the race card play is bullshit. They know, because it's their *own* bullshit excuse. It's like women are the first to smell a bullshit "damsel in distress" card from another woman, while clueless men go all captain save-a-ho. Blacks recognize a bullshit race card play, while the Chris Matthews of the world go all captain save-O.

IMO, most black people won't buy the "Obama lost because he's black." It's bullshit, and most won't fall for that. They may *say* it, but IMO they won't really believe it. Obama will have lost because he's Obama, dorky half-white Obama, a particular man-- not because he's black. It's *white* liberals (like the Matthews of the world) who'll say it *and* believe it. It's white liberals who need and will hold on to that delusion. IMO, blacks won't.




Posted by: lael at October 23, 2012 03:59 PM (solTu)

136 South Park: "Rob Schneider is The Ex-Obama Voter. Derp de derp de derp derp Duah."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 23, 2012 04:11 PM (P7hip)

137 You Can't DO Eeeet!

Posted by: Bang Out Of Order at October 23, 2012 05:54 PM (1H47k)

138 This audio is from The Regular Guys show in Atlanta. Three of the four hosts are seriously right-leaning / libertarian and the 4th guy, Tim, is coming around. Very funny four hour "shock-jock" morning show. Very un-PC. Fearless when it comes to race (and this in Atlanta). Homeless karaoke is comedy gold.

Posted by: JDW at October 23, 2012 07:45 PM (11KLF)

139 Does this add to the discussion? maybe.
http://tinyurl.com/8blw5x8

Posted by: mkf at October 24, 2012 02:20 AM (Jyvq+)






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