Ryan Wins CNN's Poll of Undecided Likely Voters, 48-44%
Also Wins on Likability, Ryan 53% Biden 43%
Who wants cake?
Laughing Boy: He played to the MSNBC crowd. But at what cost?
Comments
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 11:33 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 11, 2012 11:33 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2012 11:33 PM (6LvlL)
Posted by: dogfish at October 11, 2012 11:35 PM (N2yhW)
But the main trajectory of the race is that Romney and Ryan are capable, knowledgeable, pleasant men with serious ideas about the future of this country, better qualified for office than the men in office now, and Obama and Biden are still pushing musty old welfare plans from the late 1960's.
>>>> WHich means that Romney wins this race, however closely. Because the trajectory is still trending this way and probably won't move much (except if Obama's Libya lies blow up his campaign)
Make a date for pudding.
Posted by: Trump at October 11, 2012 11:35 PM (F8Lnm)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:35 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 11, 2012 11:36 PM (GRvW4)
Plus, there's cake girl.
Ahhhh...
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 11:36 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: joncelli at October 11, 2012 11:36 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: Greg at October 11, 2012 11:35 PM (wKkyv)
CBS polled you and the hobos you suck.
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:36 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: dogfish at October 11, 2012 11:36 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 11, 2012 11:36 PM (QQcJv)
Other than that, yeah. I thought Ryan did better, but I'm mildly on his side anyway, so call it a near-draw.
Posted by: Shelby at October 11, 2012 11:37 PM (fwNY5)
Posted by: Mr Pink at October 11, 2012 11:37 PM (G2SfW)
Well done!
Posted by: PJ at October 11, 2012 11:37 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: A Tampon User at October 11, 2012 11:37 PM (SLRpl)
(I hate him so)
God, yes.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:38 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Shelby at October 11, 2012 11:38 PM (fwNY5)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:38 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Gregg at October 11, 2012 11:38 PM (VrVBw)
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at October 11, 2012 11:38 PM (NfhR0)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 11, 2012 11:39 PM (GRvW4)
Within days, all anyone was talking about was Gore's boorish behavior. And his poll sank.
By Saturday, watch . . .
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 11, 2012 11:39 PM (imtbm)
I personally call it a tie, because really it was a rain out. No game, no debate. Martha and Joe just talked over Ryan, nothing really happened.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 11:39 PM (PHb2k)
As an undecided voter, tonight I cast my vote for Romney/Ryan. I was so
embarassed by the VP's behavior. He Kept interupting and told at least 3
flat out lies. Does he really think the American people don't know
what's going on. As my mother would say, wipe that grin off your face.
So disappointed. Now, I honestly can't see how anyone who believes in
God could vote for Obama/Biden ticket. Very disappointed, but I won't
make the same mistake twice. No, I am not better off than 4 yrs ago.
Things for this country are worse, way worse.
http://tinyurl.com/9bpunvk
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 11, 2012 11:39 PM (0It32)
Posted by: Joe B. at October 11, 2012 11:40 PM (8/bPb)
*taps chin* That may be acceptable.
Of course, I also like to think that her name is Ryan and that she's celebrating Diablo Day. And then some other stuff too that I'm too much of a delicate lady to discuss.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:40 PM (Gk3SS)
Yes, I want CAKE.
Ryan's best line of the night: We intervene militarily with boots on the ground when our national security isat stake. For other reasons, we do embargos and no fly zones. Biden and Raddatz both started to scoff, then it seemed ol 'Joe backed off.
If Romney can stay as cool next week as Ryan did tonight, Obama is toast.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 11, 2012 11:40 PM (tpi5T)
Posted by: Infidel at October 11, 2012 11:40 PM (9tjlm)
Does anybody in America want that personna - Biden , in command of ANYTHING ???
I'm a MAN and he made me fear for my "ladyparts" .
Was he medicated, or just mentally unstable?
Posted by: builderD at October 11, 2012 11:41 PM (hqKI2)
Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 11, 2012 11:41 PM (U7Ivf)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:41 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: biscuits mahoney at October 11, 2012 11:41 PM (avEon)
Ryan and that she's celebrating Diablo Day. And then some other stuff
too that I'm too much of a delicate lady to discuss.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:40 PM (Gk3SS)
Fair enough, My Stompyness
See you degenerates tomorrow.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 11, 2012 11:41 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Gerg at October 11, 2012 11:42 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: biscuits mahoney at October 11, 2012 11:42 PM (avEon)
Posted by: Baldy at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (opS9C)
Posted by: biscuits mahoney at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (avEon)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: builderD at October 11, 2012 11:41 PM (hqKI2)[/i
They were handing out bourbon everywhere. They kept telling me not to take it, but I can't say no to free bourbon! What do you think I am, a fucking Mormon?
Posted by: Joe Biden JD. at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (N/1Dm)
Posted by: California red at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (DXTKe)
Posted by: Joe Biden JD. at October 11, 2012 11:44 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 11, 2012 11:44 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: greencork at October 11, 2012 11:44 PM (JFdir)
Ryan did just fine.
Posted by: Filly at October 11, 2012 11:44 PM (247Qj)
I would be satisfied stealing his cake. Because frosting.
Posted by: Methos at October 11, 2012 11:44 PM (6LvlL)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:44 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: joncelli at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (CWlPF)
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (aHR5E)
Posted by: Dave S. at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (UvR6d)
Posted by: joeindc44 finds Bidens's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: Infidel at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (9tjlm)
Real Clear Politicselectoral map shows current tossups: Florida. Virginia. North Carolina. Colorado. Nevada. Missouri. New Hampshire. Wisconsin. Ohio.Michigan.Pennsylvania.
Pennsylfuckingvania is a tossup.
I bet TFG ain't sleeping well.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (tpi5T)
I appreciate the comment, and I want to ask you something, with all due respect, kindness, honesty, and seriousness:
How can you be undecided up to this point? What list of Obama positives can you give that would make you unsure?
I ask not critically, but I really want to understand.
Posted by: Paul Morphy at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (4uMU0)
And Ryan did come off as gentlemanly, polite, and patient.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: smart ass at a VP briefing at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 11, 2012 11:43 PM (N/1Dm)
_____________________
Glad I could be of service.
Posted by: Martha Rat-azz at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (r2PLg)
Ryan did what he needed to do, which was reassure undecideds that Romney's victory last week wasn't a fluke and that both Romney and himself were reasonable, serious men who had given plenty of thought to the issues. You don't have to agree with them, just trust that they are intelligent and competent. Ryan made the sale tonight.
Will it massively change the race? No. Will it solidify Romney gains in swing states? Yes.
Posted by: Alex at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (HwgHt)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:46 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: davidt at October 11, 2012 11:46 PM (8/bPb)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 11, 2012 11:46 PM (yh0zB)
And he should be preparing for new level of Obama rudeness
Posted by: joeindc44 finds Bidens's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 11:46 PM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: rdbrewer at October 11, 2012 11:46 PM (Iyg03)
Ha-ha!
Posted by: andycanuck at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (AREf/)
Did he have a big diamond ring on his pinky or did I just imagine that part of the outfit?
Posted by: elliot m at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (zPich)
Now, Biden is a retarded buffoon, but that doesn't mean he isn't smarter than JEF.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (6zgse)
I hope that girl sucked the heck out of Ryan's d**k because D3 sucked balls.
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (YxaXw)
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No no no, one of the poll trolls assured us that Barky was going to win all the swing states.
Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (aHR5E)
I work as a door to door sales person in Tucson and these past two weeks I've been in the most political 'signey' neighborhood I've seen this season.
Quite a few Romney / Ryan signs but also a fair # of yards decorated with multiple sign for Dems running from Senate on down to Constable.
Not ONE Obama / Biden sign.
Not a one.'
Posted by: Deety at October 11, 2012 11:48 PM (QG3g9)
Someone acts like Biden, motherfucker gets thrown out. Mind you, he gets more warnings than Miss Obama BFF there gave.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 11:48 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 11:49 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: otho at October 11, 2012 11:49 PM (yBF/9)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at October 11, 2012 11:49 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2012 11:49 PM (bCaR9)
Did he have a big diamond ring on his pinky or did I just imagine that part of the outfit?
I was distracted by the feather in his hat.
Suck it Rapistburger!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:49 PM (Gk3SS)
"I personally call it a tie, because really it was a rain out. No game, no debate. Martha and Joe just talked over Ryan, nothing really happened."
Yep, brutal to watch.
Posted by: Spike at October 11, 2012 11:49 PM (I4NNt)
That's really interesting. I didn't like Bush, but voted for him with enthusiasm, especially in 2004.
I'm not terribly fond of Romney, but I frankly despise Obama. How interesting this sort of thinking is.
Posted by: Dianna at October 11, 2012 11:50 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Courtesy Flush at October 11, 2012 11:50 PM (tkbF8)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:50 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: eastvalleyphx at October 11, 2012 11:39 PM (GRvW4)
*sets up cameras* don't mind me...
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at October 11, 2012 11:50 PM (yh0zB)
I don't know what has to be done, but I'd trust Ryan/Romney to be the grownups, rather than Obama/Biden.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (LhJo8)
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (tpi5T)
Posted by: davidt at October 11, 2012 11:46 PM (8/bPb)
_________________
The Joker.
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (r2PLg)
Well, OK, it wasn't my comment, it was from a guy "ctsalmon" in the comments section. My guess is that he really was convinced before that, but just needed a push. He said he "won't make the same mistake twice" so my guess is that he was hanging on 'till the bitter end.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (0It32)
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (IoNBC)
the quote,
hey girl, it's all good, I like hanging out with your senile grandfather.
We can go to the movies after I listen to him ramble for a few more minutes
Posted by: joeindc44 finds Bidens's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (Z3ckx)
In the closing rounds, Ryan spoke calmly, chiding the president for
divisiveness and broken promises. Biden nearly comically told us he
never said anything he didn’t mean. Ryan gave a classic closing
statement, actually asking viewers for their votes. Biden whined about
getting shortened on time. Raddatz must have been exhausted. Any
audience members hanging on certainly were.
It was the most bizarre performance in any debate in my memory. Biden
was so obnoxious, so over-the-top, that it is hard to see how
independent voters, especially women, would find him tolerable, let
alone effective. Arguing with the female moderate, jabbing his finger
and constantly interrupting both Raddatz and Ryan, he came across like a
bully.
Raddatz at times was unable to stand up to Biden’s bullying, but she
hung in there, never losing her poise. She returned some of his jabs.
She was a more active moderate, to be sure, than Jim Lehrer. But the
debate was certainly lively, and she was exquisitely fair.
Losers: Biden; the aide who forgot to tell him there was a split screen; incivility.
Winners: Ryan; civility.
Posted by: nuclearjim at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (H8H9R)
Posted by: Ball of Hate at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (AREf/)
Posted by: chique d'afrique
The GOP is known as the Stupid Party for a reason.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (bCaR9)
Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (U7Ivf)
Usually the Sign says something like "Jane Doe for Arizona".
I'm like, 'to do WHAT for Arizona?! Where?'
Posted by: Deety at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (QG3g9)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:50 PM (6zgse)
It was horrifying. I understand a lot of the weak-kneed choices the GOP makes, this is not one.
I know the Dems will scream like a stabbed rat, sue, boycott, burn down buildings or whatever if the moderator *isn't* a shill, but IT HAS TO STOP.
Stop ceding territory. Stop retreating. Just stop.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (PHb2k)
I bet TFG ain't sleeping well.
Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 11, 2012 11:45 PM (tpi5T)
Jim, NC has been off the list of actual "tossup" states for quite a while. I'm not correcting you, I just like pointing out that OFA rolled up their shitty tent and slunk out of the state already. I *really* enjoy mentioning that. Their map is shrinking. I hope you're in the fight to make sure VA goes back to team recovery.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Jimi at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (6sLo8)
Posted by: JBS at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (lZE/o)
This was a boxing match where one guy has weights in his gloves, the referee is a bit on the take, and the other guy is trying to be Gentlemen Jim Corbett following the Marquess of Queensberry. Ryan's unflagging sportsmanship impresses a neutral audience, but it's more of a wash on the judges' score cards.
If people watched to the end, that one sigh Biden made while Ryan was being very thoughtful and serious was horrible--an exclamation mark on his entire jerkwad night.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (h9gW0)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
She warned him? When? In the ten minutes it took me to change clothes after I got home?
Posted by: Dianna at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: not the mama at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (kzCIn)
Posted by: Baldy at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (opS9C)
There were only a 3 or 4 of us, it can't be that hard for you to give us a shout out.
And yea, I did say that Ryan would win tonight.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (TMB3S)
Top related Google searches for "Ryan" 1. Biden Debate 2. How Old Is 3. Shirtless 4. Workout // (I'm not joking)
For the miserable diminished-expectation dick-bags.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (bCaR9)
Not his fault, it was his part to play given Biden's crazy rudeness and the pile-ons by the moderator.
Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 46% more DOOM! at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (MrM2k)
Posted by: Blacksheep at October 11, 2012 11:54 PM (nvV9F)
Suck it down Stephanie Cunter.
Btw Biden you fuck, you did vote for the wars. You fucking liar.
Posted by: Jaydee at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (E5DLT)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: ace at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Evilpens at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (SzAZ7)
Oh Yeah !!!!! Cake !!!!!!! And Drink!!!!!!
I Love Romney and Ryan and Cake !!!!!!
I think a big piece of Republican Red Velvet would be nice !!!!!
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (ibQqc)
Ha! That's it exactly, I knew it was somebody and I couldn't put my finger on it.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 11:53 PM (PHb2k)
_________________
Oh wow--earlier this week we were casting the role of Biden--people said, Leslie Nielson, Chevy Chase..
Jack Nicholson!
Posted by: tasker at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:47 PM (6zgse)
Based on this debate, I'd suggest he is either: A) smarter, as he seemed to have a plan, which he followed, or...nope, that's it. He didn't get his dick knocked in the dirt, unlike Barry.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Paul Morphy at October 11, 2012 11:55 PM (4uMU0)
CNN/ORC POLL October 3 DEBATE WATCHERS Who Was More In Touch With Problems of People Like You? Ryan 51%, Biden 44%
Doesn't this usually always favor Dems, in regards to the LIV population?
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (626t3)
I think me with a taser is an awesome idea.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Adam at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (/YJYi)
That Paul Ryan is just one funny motherfucker in't he?
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 11, 2012 11:51 PM (IoNBC)
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Yeah it was fricking hysterical when Ryan was talking about dead Iranians.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (BVkEs)
Posted by: 7HEAVENS at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (tuCVl)
Posted by: Numb Nuts in Californica at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (lJ3rV)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: Juan Williams at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (/YJYi)
Posted by: nuclearjim at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (H8H9R)
This was where the review train leaped off the tracks into the air, began spinning like a gyroscope, and then shot into orbit.
She interrupted Ryan almost as much as Biden did.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 11, 2012 11:57 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 11, 2012 11:57 PM (sZTYJ)
"Republicans need to start objecting to moderator choices. I mean,
this... this woman and her ex were friends of Obama's for goodness sakes"
Are you suggesting that the fine group of Beltway Best Buddies from the RINO establishment who sit on the Commission on Presidential Debates might need to be replaced?
Because the RINO establishment thinks things are just fine and dandy as they are. They agreed without a peep to Raddatz.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 11, 2012 11:57 PM (ymG7s)
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 11, 2012 11:57 PM (imtbm)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (jucos)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (Zd/NW)
Only if the shock is preceded by, "shut the fuck up you retard."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (2b4yb)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (Gk3SS)
They tried to get Ryan to lose his cool so they Democrats could start a new meme.
They failed and it cost them a lot.
Posted by: eman at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (+XD7n)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (2b4yb)
Nothing is ever easy, is it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (j1gX1)
Car saleman Ryan to buyer in showroom: " This car is a best-buy, and the highest rated gas mileage in it's class. It has won the American safety Award, 2 years running. Consumer Affairs gave it it's highest rating"
Car salesman Biden : " You're gonna love this hot machine. Guaranteed! I drive this car myself ( when it's out of impound) It has a full 100% dealer warranty! ( one hundred feet off the lot, or one hundred minutes) Trust me. We back up everything we sell.My word is my bond. Just sign right here. . . And look over there ! - Squirrel !
Posted by: builderD at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (hqKI2)
Posted by: garrett at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (g5+dk)
Oh, the AllahPundit impersonator shows up.
hooray.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 11, 2012 11:58 PM (bCaR9)
Posted by: matt foley at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (bY+Nu)
Posted by: Donna V. at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (dcIHW)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (6zgse)
Posted by: Travis at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (9WkMB)
Posted by: nuclearjim at October 11, 2012 11:52 PM (H8H9R)
That was my thought. Joey came across as an asshole and
Ryan came across as calm cool and collected.
Hey Joe I got this.
Posted by: Infidel at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (9tjlm)
Posted by: Dianna at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (mKMj1)
Imaging .....smiling .....
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 12, 2012 12:00 AM (ibQqc)
Posted by: Dianna at October 12, 2012 12:00 AM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 12, 2012 12:00 AM (h9gW0)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 11, 2012 11:56 PM (Gk3SS)
DONE. You win. The thread, 500 internets, 350 Quatloos, and the position.
And stompy boots.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 12, 2012 12:00 AM (bxiXv)
Well of course! Though I'm not sure I would insult the mentally challenged by comparing them to politicians.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 12, 2012 12:00 AM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 12, 2012 12:01 AM (9Taqp)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:01 AM (0aTEo)
I am more incensed with her than Joe, who was just being his normal crazy jerk self. (OK, maybe more jerk-like than usual.)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 12, 2012 12:01 AM (6zgse)
I really appreciate you, Ace. And Cake Girl. But mostly you.
Posted by: Travis at October 11, 2012 11:59 PM (9WkMB)
I also appreciate Ace, as I do Cake Girl. I don't find the same level of emotional connection with them, IYKWIMAITTYD.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:01 AM (lJJMb)
112Cake Girl should be the moderator for the next two Presidential Debates.
If I had no controlher photo wouldbe moderating the debate between my hand and my wand, and like Jim Lehrer will justsit there while we go at it.
Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at October 12, 2012 12:02 AM (YxaXw)
Well....my church say's it's wrong to..."covet" young boys, but I won't let that dictate what my constituents want.
Posted by: Harry Reid at October 12, 2012 12:02 AM (AREf/)
Dude, you smell terrible. I got standards. Find some other hobo.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at October 12, 2012 12:02 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: osu at October 12, 2012 12:02 AM (vgMWF)
think the 'Ettes would like a Cake Guy ....ummm....perhaps Mr.Ryan with that piece of Red Velvet Cake .....
Imaging .....smiling .....
Thank you grumpy, now I can sleep peacefully!
Posted by: Infidel at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (9tjlm)
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (+r4NB)
Posted by: Holdfast at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (Gzb30)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: LifeTrek at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (BLjub)
Posted by: currently at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (flA6l)
Please let the Romney/Ryan ticket win in November, so we can see the Ryan Cake Girl photo many times in the coming years. The eyes are pleased.
Posted by: KSB Snow Owl at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (QL4bs)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: eman"
Face it. He did better than Obama. Well, okay, he couldn't have done worse, unless he'd run off the stage in tears.
But he at least acted like he gave a damn. He should go back to Obama and say, "See what you can do when you aren't lazy."
And he made clear his political philosophy: Spend big and hate rich people.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (LhJo8)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 12, 2012 12:03 AM (6zgse)
Cake girl is Teh Hotness.
Posted by: Blacksheep at October 12, 2012 12:04 AM (nvV9F)
I have to admit that for most of the time I was wishing it was Rubio up there looking less like an altar boy and more like Michael Corleone about to settle family business with that grinning fool.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 12, 2012 12:04 AM (auPSv)
Scroll down Ace had it before
Posted by: Evilpens at October 12, 2012 12:04 AM (ck76k)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:04 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 12, 2012 12:04 AM (BVkEs)
I DID want him to jump up and bitchslap Biden a time or 2, but good manners are always in style. It's always tough when the moderator is SOOOOOO deep in the Obama tank.
I guess Ryan pretty well threaded the needle as well as it cd have been!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 12, 2012 12:04 AM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM (kzCIn)
Posted by: osu at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM (vgMWF)
They tried to get Ryan to lose his cool so they Democrats could start a new meme.
They failed and it cost them a lot.
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Yup, if you noticed, The last half of the debate, Biden started getting frustrated. It was because he wasn't getting a reaction out of Ryan.
That was his job, get Ryan to say one thing in anger--even if justified--because that clip was planned for 24/7 news and ads.
If he got hat clip, no one would have remembered he was an ass.
But he failed and now all anyone will remember is he was an ass.
And they will stew on it and it will chafe--watch what happens in 5 days.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM (jucos)
At one point, both Biden and the moderator were interrupting Ryan simultaneously.
Cake girl is Teh Hotness.
YOU ARE CORRECT.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Mindy at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (OXFrm)
It's been interesting watching Obama's campaign choose so poorly and fail so massively. And by 'interesting' I mean fap-worthy.
Posted by: Y-not on the phone at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (ndxIr)
Posted by: Eyeore!!!!! (Qouting from the debate thread) at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (/YJYi)
***
http://bit.ly/W9yZYR
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (jucos)
She said Biden was an ass and rude. She especially hated his smirking when Ryan was earnestly talking about his daughter, abortion, and the Catholic vote.
Hope this is indicative of what most women voters who watched thisare thinking.
Posted by: Marybeth at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (fkaOH)
Posted by: davidt at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (8/bPb)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (m5Iwq)
Meanwhile, as you said, and I said he would, Ryan passed The Test
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (Dll6b)
Hollowpoint,
After fighting off you Fred! goofballs for 4 years, my reflexes are Ninja sharp.
Did you need a reverse mortgage?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (TMB3S)
Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM (kzCIn)
More like several *dozen*.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (bxiXv)
I would be satisfied stealing his cake. Because frosting.
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I would be satisfied stealing the girl. Because frosting.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (Y5I9o)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (jucos)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:08 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: tasker at October 12, 2012 12:08 AM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 12, 2012 12:08 AM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (CJwi5)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (Dll6b)
think the 'Ettes would like a Cake Guy ....ummm....perhaps Mr.Ryan with that piece of Red Velvet Cake .....
Imaging .....smiling .....
Thank you grumpy, now I can sleep peacefully!
Sweet Dreams Of Mr.Ryan sans shirt with that big piece of Republicsn Red Velvet Cake !!!!! Sweet Sweet Dreams Infidel !!!!!
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (ibQqc)
It's pretty good. I expect it will run on TV. It would be malpractice to not run it.
Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (LCRYB)
Yeah we're overwhelmingly for Biden. Ryan looks like he's got a good sword arm.
Posted by: Mordor at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (6LvlL)
They tried to get Ryan to lose his cool so they Democrats could start a new meme.
They failed and it cost them a lot."
This is a good point. Dems/MSM aren't very subtle when they set up and telegraph their memes. And remember that just before the debate, for the last 2 days, the most prominent Ryan story was that he'd gotten "testy" in an interview.
Most human being subjected to Biden Radditz (or whatever her name is) would have gotten "testy." Ryan did not. Not at all.
That's a victory.
Posted by: lael at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (r7XUK)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Spike at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (I4NNt)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:09 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:10 AM (+XD7n)
I was *raging* at Biden's interruptions, arrogance, and bullcrap. I almost turned the damned thing off, especially when the blog locked up.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 12, 2012 12:10 AM (bxiXv)
47 On another note, I want to kill Cake Ryan and steal his girl. He's a dick.
I would be satisfied stealing his cake. Because frosting.
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I would be satisfied stealing the girl. Because frosting.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at October 12, 2012 12:07 AM (Y5I9o)
CNN has determined that JeremiadBullfrog won this exchange 55-45, winning among men 98-2, while losing women 89-11.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:10 AM (lJJMb)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:10 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:10 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:11 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Terrye at October 12, 2012 12:11 AM (H9eRV)
Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 12, 2012 12:11 AM (Dll6b)
Posted by: tofer732 at October 12, 2012 12:11 AM (m5Iwq)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:11 AM (jucos)
Posted by: joeindc44 finds Bidens's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 12, 2012 12:12 AM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: Marybeth at October 12, 2012 12:12 AM (fkaOH)
And they will stew on it and it will chafe--watch what happens in 5 days.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 12:05 AM (imtbm)
Yes! This! Paul Ryan had amazing control as I wanted to smack both the Chattering Teeth and the moderator at one point when they both were piling on him.I wish I were a PAC. I'd do a split screen of Rictus Grin and future VP Ryan with the question: "Who do you want to be a heartbeat away from the nuclear codes?"
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 12, 2012 12:12 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 12, 2012 12:12 AM (dnflv)
Posted by: Tori at October 12, 2012 12:12 AM (6atzm)
Look real close at teh Cake Girl. She has Dana Perino's face.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:11 AM (jucos)
Before Dana had the work done, it should be noted. Cake Girl bears no resemblance to a duck.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (lJJMb)
Posted by: joeindc44 finds Bidens's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (6zgse)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (Gk3SS)
On the margin Biden might have helped with the traditional blue-collar white male vote which the Democrats are struggling to hold onto.
Biden's schtick was basically "Check out, Mr. College Boy. Fuck you, college boy."
Biden is doing schtick -- it's what he imagines uneducated white guys might say.
He's basically doing an impression of what he vaguely remembers the guys who took shop class in high school 50 years ago talked like.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (ZPrif)
***
bleeding armadillo cake?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: gmannyc at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (a0D5D)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (Bm5Wo)
--
Go ahead and mention it. 3 polls for us, 1 for you. And this is an IMPROVEMENT from the last debate for you guys. C'mon, make me laugh. Tell me you're winning.
Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (pnHKr)
Posted by: Adam at October 12, 2012 12:13 AM (/YJYi)
I get the Yankees but do you really want to see gerg in a mini skirt and tight top?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:15 AM (0aTEo)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 12, 2012 12:15 AM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 12:15 AM (0It32)
He came across as the earnest, capable professional, with the demeanor of an engineer or accountant.
When times are tough, this is the person you look to to be your rock.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 12, 2012 12:15 AM (LhJo8)
Posted by: and irresolute at October 12, 2012 12:16 AM (JvklE)
Michele and the kids are going to Hawaii. Barry is going to Pakistan
for further training. Biden is going to Wally World. Hillary is going
to open a Persian rug cleaning business. Holder is going to join a law
firm and make $10 million per year. And Bill Clinton is going to get
prime pussy until he dies.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:10 AM (+XD7n)
Clinton gets far from the top shelf ass. He gets the top shelf ass' best friend's ugly little sister to bang, or marry, or raise as his daughter.
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 12, 2012 12:16 AM (Zd/NW)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at October 12, 2012 12:16 AM (VETY/)
Passed. The. Test.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2012 12:16 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Nudge at October 12, 2012 12:17 AM (aVH2N)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:18 AM (6sLo8)
Of course, I am a Ryan fan too, but being as objective as I can, I give
him high marks for remaining calm in this 2 on 1 setup. It says alot
about his character and his ability to stay focused.
Passed. The. Test.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2012 12:16 AM (PHb2k)
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Excellent analysis.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 12, 2012 12:18 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: Nudge at October 12, 2012 12:18 AM (aVH2N)
Posted by: SOCR at October 12, 2012 12:18 AM (RTNve)
cool...
Oh Yeah ....with Cake !!!!!!! Love your. Ryan !!!!!!
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 12, 2012 12:19 AM (ibQqc)
Snickers = 160
Ryan = 3020
Too Close to decide = 132
Thats 30 to 1.5!!
https://www.facebook.com/questions/440058276031518/?qa_ref=qd
Posted by: JarvisW at October 12, 2012 12:19 AM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 12, 2012 12:15 AM (LhJo
Trigger pullers to the front, please, accountants and engineers to the rear. But yeah, he seems like a solid sort that might lose the pocket protector and the green eyeshade and step forward.
Posted by: and irresolute at October 12, 2012 12:19 AM (JvklE)
For a while there I thought Biden might glitter-bomb Ryan.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (SzAZ7)
But seriously...Obama can't take this tack, right? He can't pretend to be an Alpha, he's passive when questioned. It's only when with supporters and worshipers that he can be an ass. So, what happens? Does he try to get aggressive with Romney? I can't see that coming off well, at ALL.
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (626t3)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 12, 2012 12:16 AM (Zd/NW)
Most likely, but there is no shortage of mighty stupid mighty fine ass out there.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (6sLo8)
This...TFG got elected because he was cool, hip, edgy...he was a real-life reality-show hero. Four years later, everyone is sick of reality shows and realize that the DirecTv and electric bills are overdue, The Bachelor Obama gave someone else the rose and they want to find a "nice" guy with a good job.
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (+r4NB)
Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (LCRYB)
Republicans need to start objecting to moderator choices. I mean,
this... this woman and her ex were friends of Obama's for goodness
sakes. As if she wasn't biased enough already by being a member of the
MBM.
Word.
WORD!!!
Posted by: Who Moderates Moderators? at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (fTxBw)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Dave S. at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (UvR6d)
http://bit.ly/RkQhRL
Someone should do a side by side with Jack's and Joe's laughs.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (piMMO)
'What, are you Jack Kennedy now?'
Even for Smirky this made no sense.
Posted by: DeepBeam at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (eKWTg)
Crushed. It.
Seeing lots of comments hoping that Barry Choom will follow his lead. We should be so lucky.
So on the question of firing up the base, Joey B has the tin foil hat crowd excited, but team O will continue to hemorrhage brown coats (that's independents, now go watch firefly as penance if you didn't know that...)
Good job Congressman and future POTUS Ryan
Posted by: James at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (IbRel)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (6sLo
But they've all got cell phones and bc pills.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (0It32)
Andy, great city,eh? (minus the crazy libtards).My husband's from Burlington.
Luckily my husband hates the SCOAMF. My friend doesn't much like him either, but didn't understand all the passion my husband and I haveto get him out of office. Until tonight.
Unluckilythey both are still resident aliens in Floridaso can't vote.
But every day my husband is out talking to people about this election.
And all of us are going to volunteer at R/R HQ.My friend wants to come help now. Damn, I'm glad she watched tonight.
Posted by: Marybeth at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (fkaOH)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Mr Pink "
i wonder what Obama gave her as a wedding gift.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (LhJo8)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (SzAZ7)
----------------------------------------------------------
Up Twinkles!
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (jucos)
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:22 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 12, 2012 12:22 AM (eHIJJ)
But why stop there? All this time effort and money being spent on the current election would be far better spent arguing about the '76 primary. Ford-voting RINO.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 12, 2012 12:22 AM (9Taqp)
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 12, 2012 12:22 AM (UW6NX)
Miss AtC,
We would like to emphasize again that our product is not meant for continuous use. Also opening the case to add extra batteries will void your warranty. And wiring the charger into a 220 VAC may cause a fire.
Thank You.
Posted by: Acme Taser Company at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (wcjj2)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (6sLo
Don't feed the trolls.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (lJJMb)
Why do we want to pay more for them to eat than normal poor people do? Rice,beans, butter, potatoes... are cheaper than cat food. Well assuming you have a stove/$5.00 hotplate.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (0aTEo)
Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (pnHKr)
http://youtu.be/1-mU-YSk32I
The heat is on!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (HC7j7)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (kzCIn)
http://freebeacon.com/biden-claims-he-voted-against-afghanistan-iraq-wars/
Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (LCRYB)
#GravyBoatRaddatz
Use it.
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (+r4NB)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (6sLo8)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 12, 2012 12:06 AM (YjDyJ)
It's Judo. Biden was ready for assertive. He wasn't ready for polite and informed. His only countermove was to turn the asshole up to 11.
Wrong answer.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 12, 2012 12:24 AM (rzSn3)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2012 12:24 AM (HC7j7)
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 12, 2012 12:24 AM (UW6NX)
Posted by: DeepBeam at October 12, 2012 12:24 AM (eKWTg)
It occurred to me, finally, where I'd seen that routine before...the routine that Biden was doing.
The Joker.
Joe...the Joe-ker.
It was the same way that the Joker was alway sneering and snickering and jeering at whatever someone was saying.
Posted by: wheatie at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (jucos)
Posted by: Dave S. at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (UvR6d)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (0It32)
Crushed. It.
Seeing lots of comments hoping that Barry Choom will follow his lead.
That just goes to show that Joey was playing to the Dims' base. And, as someone noted on the ONT (IIRC), if you have to play to your base 3 weeks from the election, you're not winning.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (vDl/w)
So does Biden go to rehab before or after the election?
Posted by: Methos at October 12, 2012 12:26 AM (6LvlL)
Posted by: c6dave at October 12, 2012 12:26 AM (I08eI)
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 12, 2012 12:26 AM (UW6NX)
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:26 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: JewelC at October 12, 2012 12:26 AM (x1cqT)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (vDl/w)
Raddatzwas no Moderator That Night
InSeptember, 2009 my wife and I had dinner at the Red House Restaurant in Cambridge, near Harvard sq. An ABC News van was parked close to the restaurant.
We were seated at a table next to a 50ish woman and two men. The woman at the next table was drinking white wine with her table mates and talking loudly about, primarily, the Kennedys. Everyone at the Red House deck area could hear what this woman was saying. The boorish creature'spersonality was obviously too big for a small restaurant and she could care less whether her loud blithering would bother other diners.
I tried to ignore the lady, and concentrate on having a nice dinner, but the neighbor lady's voice could be heard in the next county. Her party ordered up one bottle after another. The lady was raving about how great the staff of Ted Kennedy was. On and on and on. "Greatest staff in history"."Brilliant staff."This went on for at least an hour. It was one of the weirdest dinner conversations I have ever heard. Her table mates seemed to be trying to humor her and just make agreeable noises.
While praising Ted Kennedy's staff, the lady spoke disparagingly of Ted Kennedy, who had just died a few days earlier. She also had no use for Ted's brothers Bobby and Jack.
Throughout her monologue she seemed to use reporting jargon so it became obvious she was an ABC reporter or producer. It was also totally obvious,as evidenced by the array of empty wine bottles,and slurred speech, that the lady was loaded to the gills.
When I got home I checked the ABC news site and learned that the woman seated next to us spewing dirt about the Kennedys was ABC News reporter Martha Raddatz. Positive ID. Her voice was instantly recognizable--even after several bottles of wine.
I saw an ABC NewsTed Kennedy tribute clip of Raddatz mournfully praising the "Lion of the Senate" that was directly opposite tothebitterdisdain for Ted K she expressed so vehemently in a public place.
Strange but true.
Posted by: Cambridge Ryan Fan at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (WnjLc)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (6sLo8)
Biden is just one mini-stroke away from being POTUS or a cabbage.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (HC7j7)
I wonder how the intelligence community feels about Slow Joe throwing
them under the bus tonight? Seems like there is a war brewing between
State and CIA and this Administration. This IS going to get good.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (jucos)
Good for politics, but the fact that we're at this point where such a rift between State and CIA exists is bad for the country. O and Shrillary need to answer for that, explicitly and at length. I have no hope for this being brought about by our "independent" press.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (lJJMb)
"Dude, are you high?"
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (hlUJY)
I watched Biden and had this strange idea that he was acting like the Joker, you know, Batman's archnemesis.
Did anyone else have that same thought?
Posted by: Nudge at October 12, 2012 12:28 AM (aVH2N)
""CBS apparently stands for Complete Bull Shit now.""
Really? I thought it stood for Communist Bukakke Slaves.
Posted by: Berserker at October 12, 2012 12:28 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 12, 2012 12:28 AM (hlUJY)
****
As Jake tapper tweeted earlier: Democrats energized, but clear winner tonight: Jason Sudeikis.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:28 AM (piMMO)
Time to whip out the Browning again -
My first thought was, he lied in every word,
That hoary cripple, with malicious eye
Askance to watch the working of his lie
On mine, and mouth scarce able to afford
Suppression of the glee, that pursed and scored
Its edge, at one more victim gained thereby.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Fen at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (Cih47)
Posted by: Blue Hen
Well, intell people have a way of leaking, see Valerie Plame. The issue is if anyone hey tell the truth to will disseminate it. They have already leaked that from day one they did not think it was about a video, contrary to what the White House says.
Shit is about to get real...realer
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Texas Ranger at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (IvvrO)
Biden had to reverse this by being as aggressive as possible to bring the Dem base back into the fold, even though the base was going to vote for Obama anyway.
And in the process probably pushed moderates and independents toward Romney with the boorish behavior.
Posted by: davidt at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (8/bPb)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: DeepBeam at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (eKWTg)
The admin and the MFM set up a "Ryan's testy" meme, and it was pretty much Joe's only play.
It failed.
The goal was to move the needle, if it moved at all, it moved to Ryan because he didn't fall for it.
Ryan could have done better, but he did what he needed to.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Jonn at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (/YJYi)
This needs to by run 24/7 !!!!!!!!! Simply AWESOME !!!!!
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (ibQqc)
Hey,
Let's get Joe's back, and say thanks:
(link to donate)
Barack
Hmmm. Not a lot to say, eh?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:30 AM (piMMO)
I am so impressed by Ryan handling the 2-1 debate bullshit, never acknowledging Biden's huffing, and eventually standing toe to toe with Biden when it was time to do so.
Posted by: joeindc44 finds Bidens's debate prep to be vile, particularly vile at October 12, 2012 12:30 AM (Z3ckx)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:20 AM (6sLo
But they've all got cell phones and bc pills.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 12:21 AM (0It32)
Apparently you have no idea how pricey cat food is.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 12, 2012 12:30 AM (rzSn3)
Ryan is a liar
Ryan hates the poor
What to make of this? Is it some 8 dimensional chess move? A meta-narrative forged within the deep conscience of a powerful and sophisticated mind? It's so stirring, it's elegance and deep seeded value ring out like a bell of pure enlightenment.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 12, 2012 12:30 AM (JRU+g)
Nevertheless, a lot less people are going to watch the final two debates, which is why it was key the Romney did so well in the first one. Voters have made up their minds.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2012 12:30 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Tuna at October 12, 2012 12:31 AM (M/TDA)
Biden lied, and laughed while doing it.
http://freebeacon.com/biden-claims-he-voted-against-afghanistan-iraq-wars/
Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 12:23 AM (LCRYB)
----
Obama/Biden: Still Lying To Your Face
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 12, 2012 12:31 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: elliot m at October 12, 2012 12:31 AM (zPich)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 12, 2012 12:31 AM (/gEaK)
Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 12, 2012 12:31 AM (ibQqc)
The thing about Biden is, he's a retard.
Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 12:31 AM (g5+dk)
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (ZPrif)
Does he realize he and the CIA are in the process of getting thrown
under the bus?
***
It appears that he may have thrown himself under the bridge.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (piMMO)
"I liked Obama last time but Biden just really turned me off."
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (imtbm)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (vDl/w)
I saw an ABC NewsTed Kennedy tribute clip of Raddatz mournfully praising the "Lion of the Senate" that was directly opposite tothebitterdisdain for Ted K she expressed so vehemently in a public place.
Strange but true.
Posted by: Cambridge Ryan Fan at October 12, 2012 12:27 AM (WnjLc)
Put it on twitter.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (+XD7n)
"...mostly in a helicopter and sometimes in a vehicle..."
WTF?
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 12, 2012 12:29 AM (SzAZ7)
VP Biden was crestfallen, crushed, heartbroken!, even, when he found that travel by rail was not an option in Afghanistan.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (lJJMb)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 12:33 AM (IoNBC)
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/gitmo-us/
Here is the pdf of the Senate commission request to investigate the movement of Gitmo prisoners to a newly acquired prison in the US.
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2012/10/gitmo_gao.jpg
Spread it far and wide.
This gets out--election over.
Posted by: Interested Party at October 12, 2012 12:33 AM (RE+1w)
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:32 AM (QTHTd)
Yep. raykon always says something about being told what to do.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:33 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 12, 2012 12:33 AM (Q2wni)
Posted by: matt foley at October 12, 2012 12:33 AM (bY+Nu)
Posted by: steevy at October 12, 2012 12:33 AM (6o4Fb)
Laugh at them. Don't engage them seriously. They are here to pour some of the shit of their miserable lives onto you.
Do not let them. Take them as the sad, pathetic individuals they are. They are pitiful.
Just laugh, and laugh, and laugh. Like Joey Chompers.
Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 12:34 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Smilin' Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 12:34 AM (B/yDO)
As far as the visual went, it seemed pretty even. Biden didn't seem awkward and uncomfortable. Of course, he could have been saying anything (and probably was).
Ryan seemed pretty good. There were times when he was looking down, which I would have advised against, but overall seemed comfortable.
My advice to any Republican/conservative on TV: NEVER look bored or unengaged; ALWAYS look happy and thoughtful; REMEMBER that the Media are WAITING for you to pick your nose, scratch your ear, far, fiddle with your teeth, etc, etc, etc, and if you do any of those things, THAT will be all over the news.
There's a story Tony Curtis tells about making "Some Like it Hot." Billy Wilder told him and Jack Lemmon that they had to be perfect on every take, because when Marilyn Monroe had a good take, they were going to use that one, no matter what the other actors were doing, "even if we were scratching our balls."
Republicans, you are Tony Curtis. The Demoncraps are Marilyn Monroe. The Media is going to enshrine them against you. Remember that always.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (i0App)
Posted by: Max Power at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (+wxCD)
Posted by: Thunderb
I see that you never watched Delaware's own Joe Biden in action before. He's always been like this. He's had to apologize repeatedly for shit he blurted. I remember he had to apologize to Sec of State George Schultz for flipping out, back in the second Reagan administration. He's been a dick since 1972.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (UW6NX)
Posted by: humpbot at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (Sfc8B)
Posted by: ace at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (BVkEs)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (N/1Dm)
biden - the slow man who's easily considered touched
Posted by: derit at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (I88Jc)
and informed. His only countermove was to turn the asshole up to 11.
I know. It is just that there were times when it was difficult to watch because it was obvious Ryan would have creamed Biden had he only been allowed to speak.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 12, 2012 12:36 AM (YjDyJ)
Ummmmmm.... Pie....
And for you older gents: "If you can't eat the cake, you can still lick the frosting".
Ummmmmm....
Posted by: Homer J. at October 12, 2012 12:36 AM (2c1Cq)
"Angry old man yells at Paul Ryan for 90 minutes"
Posted by: lowandslow at October 12, 2012 12:36 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 12, 2012 12:36 AM (Gk3SS)
The next debate should be a doozy
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 12:36 AM (Dnbau)
guys, don't engage the trolls. that's what they want.>>
Shorter treat them like Ryan Treated joker Biden.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:37 AM (0aTEo)
Posted by: biscuits mahoney at October 12, 2012 12:37 AM (avEon)
Posted by: Corky the retard at October 12, 2012 12:37 AM (g5+dk)
I wonder how the intelligence community feels about Slow Joe throwing
them under the bus tonight? Seems like there is a war brewing between
State and CIA and this Administration. This IS going to get good.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 12, 2012 12:25 AM (jucos)
Makes me wonder if State accidentally "finds" Obama's passport from his youth/college years. Or if the CIA accidentally releases some cables from the JEF about the goings on in the ME.
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 12, 2012 12:37 AM (Zd/NW)
Win for Romney/Ryan.
Now what the hell does Obama do at the townhall debate? He cant come across as the mean jerk like Biden .. not in front of townhall people.
heh. Romney is going to win this thing.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at October 12, 2012 12:38 AM (DGIjM)
is the War on Tampons gettin' you down, brother?
Did Joey accuse Ryan of stringing him along.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:38 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: TheGAGLine at October 12, 2012 12:39 AM (EXZZI)
Raddatz quite plainly justified all the concern that Tucker Carlson and the rest had raised about her background. She was an out-and-out Team Obama shill, and she was quite clearly giving Biden the run of the house.
But in doing so did she give him enough room to hang himself?
If she'd kept the lid on him, would his stupid-ass I-know-something-you-don't-Axelrod-got-me-the-questions-in-advance smirk have been so evident? Would his interruptions have been so offensive?
We dodged a bullet here.
The deck was clearly stacked against us, and given Raddatz' behavior and how the whole thing went off I'm inclined to believe just about every possible conspiracy story on this one.
But it appears the best they managed for all their skulduggery was something approaching a tie on the issues, and some very, very poor optics on their side.
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 12:39 AM (o+SC1)
By the time they signaled to him to tone it down near the end, it was too late.
Heheh.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 12, 2012 12:39 AM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:40 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:40 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Homer J. at October 12, 2012 12:40 AM (eKWTg)
Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 12:41 AM (g5+dk)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 12:41 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 12:41 AM (wYVte)
.=======
Exactly. You had to favor Biden and listen to the whole debate to think better of him after.
Meanwhile, the low info voters will only see clips and all they will remember is the poor behavior.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 12, 2012 12:41 AM (imtbm)
RNC already has a great ad up, showing Biden laughing through serious discussion by our future VP Ryan. Then ending states something like "Joe Biden is laughing...are you?"
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 12, 2012 12:41 AM (baL2B)
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 12:42 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 12, 2012 12:36 AM (YjDyJ)
That's why he wasn't allowed to speak. But any true swing voter will pick that up too, and either look up stuff on Ryan's own siite or just give him the benefit of the doubt.
For the GOP it is never about getting our information out, because the MSM won't allow it even if the Democrat does.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 12, 2012 12:42 AM (rzSn3)
Posted by: Brumby at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (7ApXT)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (0aTEo)
Verdict: Biden is a boob.
Plus, as a writer you can bang out 'Biden is a Boob' in about 20 minutes, then hit the bar to chase some skirt.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (D1/Il)
How exactly could Biden have heard from Palin about death panels in the VP debate?
Wasn't the Dem takeover of healthcare a surprise when the push started in 2009? Did it come up at all in the 2008 debate.
Posted by: Methos at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (6LvlL)
The Chinese will copy it.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Joe-the-Joker-Biden at October 12, 2012 12:44 AM (l5RhJ)
VP Joe Biden says during the Vice Presidential Debate that Pres. Obama has met with PM Netanyahu just as much as he has with anybody
when Obama recently blew off PM Netanyahu at the U.N. to go on the View instead as eye candy.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:44 AM (vDl/w)
I'm no amishdude, but that's a long drive to church.
Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 12:44 AM (g5+dk)
I mean, man, I didn't know how to act.
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 12:45 AM (IoNBC)
How exactly could Biden have heard from Palin about death panels in the VP debate?
Wasn't the Dem takeover of healthcare a surprise when the push started in 2009? Did it come up at all in the 2008 debate.
Posted by: Methos at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (6LvlL)
What, Biden lied again? Shocka.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 12, 2012 12:45 AM (rzSn3)
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 12, 2012 12:45 AM (SzAZ7)
Posted by: rik at October 12, 2012 12:45 AM (gQxm3)
The only thing more sought-after than an F-14 in the used-parts market is a P71 Crown Victoria.
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 12:45 AM (o+SC1)
He assumed that Romney won by making the other side look dumb.
But what they don't understand is that Romney used reality and factoids as his weapon and not personal attack. Since Democrats have always had to lie to make a case they can't pull of the aggressive tactic like Romney did, and it comes across as the playground Bully.
Romney learned this tactic in the Business World, and that why Democrats have no idea what the hell to do to win this election.
It is tough to pull somebody into the PigShit Mud with you when your opponent doesn't have to get in to debate you.
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:46 AM (6sLo8)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:46 AM (9+ccr)
Posted by: Joe-the-Joker-Biden at October 12, 2012 12:46 AM (l5RhJ)
Something I pointed out during the liveblog, but it didn't make the cut.
Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 12:46 AM (g5+dk)
So because I was unable to watch, what is the consensus from those who are unfortunately sober?
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:40 AM (9+ccr)
I'd personally call it a draw...Luntz's dunces did, and the snap polls generally favor Ryan, but it's still just a VP debate. Ryan came off as knowledgeable and respectful of the "elder statesman" Biden, which should help him pass the "heartbeat away" test. Biden came across as testy, condescending, and at times buffoonish, so even a draw is a win for team R^2, as the momentum remains unchanged. All Ryan had to do was hold the line, and he accomplished that. The onus is now on O to change the momentum in the next two debates. I seriously doubt he has the chops to pull that off. I'll also mention, again, as first posted by CAC, that OFA is pulling staffers out of MI to defend OH.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at October 12, 2012 12:46 AM (lJJMb)
Wait a minute...
How exactly could Biden have heard from Palin about death panels in the VP debate?
Wasn't the Dem takeover of healthcare a surprise when the push started in 2009? Did it come up at all in the 2008 debate.
Posted by: Methos at October 12, 2012 12:43 AM (6LvlL)
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Thought the same thing. Obama/Biden created Death Panels well after the Palin debate....
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 12, 2012 12:47 AM (BVkEs)
heee, heee"
You mean "Biden giggled when Ryan was discussing Iranian nukes, US diplomats being murdered and raped, and American unemployment." Fixed it for you.
Interesting definition of "win" you have there. I don't think it will work out well for you.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 12:47 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 12, 2012 12:47 AM (WCzJ6)
Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 12, 2012 12:47 AM (X/+QT)
So because I was unable to watch, what is the consensus from those who are unfortunately sober?
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:40 AM (9+ccr)
Polls on CNN and CNBC (Drudge) show Ryan winning. He won on some polls for "undecideds." Though how anyone could be undecided is a mystery to me.
Joe Biden was rude, condescending, and a complete jerk, interrupting Ryan 82 times. He laughed and shook his head on split screen. His smile was creepy, like Sandusky creepy. Then...with fifteen minutes to go, his sugar high (or whatever he was on) ran out of steam. He was a colossal jerk, no two ways about it. The only people pleased are the debased base who would vote for Obama even if he told them he ate puppies three meals a day. Paul Ryan was himself: polite, staying to subject and policy, and did a remarkable job of not being rude back to Joe Biden, even when double-teamed by the stupid moderator who has abused Botox and had Obama at her wedding. The End.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 12, 2012 12:47 AM (baL2B)
The takeaway from this will be that Biden is a rude jackass. It may have played well to the MSNBC crowd, but outside of that, it was a disaster for Democrats. These debates are mainly about the unengaged voters that decide elections, and the universal reaction was disgust towards Biden's clownish behavior.
That being said, Ryan was a little bitch imo, and I've ruled him out for ever being White House material. Maybe the "yes, ma'am" choir boy plays well with independent voters, but I want someone more assertive. Perhaps letting himself be a punching bag and letting Biden make a fool of himself was all part of the strategy, but he let both the moderator and Biden get away with murder.
Romney should have picked Chris Christie for VP.
Posted by: Jeepers at October 12, 2012 12:47 AM (XDRsa)
Posted by: Hello, it's me Donna at October 12, 2012 12:46 AM (9+ccr)
Nearly all of them.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:48 AM (+XD7n)
The difference this time is that Obama's star power isn't enough to counteract Biden's drag.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:48 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 12, 2012 12:48 AM (N/1Dm)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 12:41 AM (wYVte)
I had a tickle-me Elmo under the table tickling me. If you know what I mean.
Posted by: VP Bite Me at October 12, 2012 12:48 AM (6LvlL)
Biden didn't. He repelled all except those who were already supporters. He appealed only to his base.
And if they aren't getting off their couches to vote for the JEF, they aren't gonna do it for Biden.
They lost this debate. They just don't know it yet
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 12:48 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 12, 2012 12:49 AM (YjDyJ)
I just want a single shot of him plopping his choppers into a glass, and giving a gummy grin, before he drifts off to sleep.
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at October 12, 2012 12:49 AM (2c1Cq)
They don't call Joe Biden "assassination insurance" for nothing.
Posted by: not the mama at October 12, 2012 12:49 AM (kzCIn)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:49 AM (6sLo8)
And this is the big mistake of the Obama campaign. They portrayed Romney as the evil, rich monster who hates poor people, and Ryan as the extremist granny killer, with the help of the so-called journalists.
Then during the debates the American people see the real Romney and Ryan and are pleasantly surprised.
Posted by: nerdygirl at October 12, 2012 12:49 AM (LhJo8)
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:49 AM (+XD7n)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:50 AM (0aTEo)
Straight from the libs favorite source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 12, 2012 12:50 AM (+r4NB)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:50 AM (vDl/w)
i have to admit. the moderator did seem to favor crazy uncle joe, but that first question on benghazi right out of the gate was quite a doozy. i expected that ryan would have to force that into the debate. actually, the more i think about it, the more i think ryan won by quite a margin. i think it's most important to seem as though you are serious and having a serious discussion about really important issues, like our ambassador being raped in the streets of a foreign country after being denied a security detail in libya. ryan did this and was clearly very knowledgeable on foreign policy and absolutely owned the budget discussion. that said, i do have to agree that it looks as though the vp has it more together than the guy in charge, and joe biden is a fool's fool.
Posted by: matt foley at October 12, 2012 12:50 AM (bY+Nu)
Romney must state, very very plainly that that cutting the mortgage interest deduction for people claiming less than $XX interest is not part of the plan. He must do this, in my opinion...it was a weak spot in the first debate and it will be used against him again. He needs to show a number. Use the same formula banks use. For example, set the line at what the banks now consider a jumbo loan, which I believe is 630K, per Fannie Mae. Mortage interest on loans that exceed that is disallowed (I'm being simplistic here, but bear with me).
That telegraphs two messages: R/R is NOT going to increase taxes on middle-income taxpayers, and sorry if you have a jumbo, we're limited the interest deduction. Who does he lose in that calculation? Upper middle class voters. Mebbe. When Reagan eliminated the credit card interest deduction, it didn't hurt him at all.
Second: Romney must again say it clearly: at RETIREMENT a younger person (today) gets the option: stay in traditional Medicare, or if you can find a better deal in the private sector, take the same money and go buy it...AND he needs to say...if you take no action, you're automatically still in Medicare.
Reason: Biden insinuated that older people (like me) will be too doddering to know what to do. Romney needs to make it clear that if you don't do a thing or are confused, the default remains federal Medicare.
Posted by: watchhisface at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (ITTLm)
I am pretty sure Joey Biden is in the early stages of dementia. Not kidding. And this brain-addled drooler is one step away from the Presidency.
His rambling and bumbling made him look extremely foolish.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (0aTEo)
Posted by: davidt at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (8/bPb)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (Q2wni)
find Biden's performance worse than we now see it. In the context of
Obama's loss...? Yeah, looks twice as bad.
Posted by: Max Power at October 12, 2012 12:35 AM (+wxCD)I think you may be right. The 1st Romney/ Obama debate and now this Ryan/ Biden one have been extraordinary, and (if R/R win) will go down in history as extraordinary, for very different reasons.Romney's debate performance was arguably the best debate performance by a presidential candidate since debates have been televised. (And he won against the One!) And Biden's debate performance was arguably the most grotesque, bizarre, offputting, disrespectful unpresidential performance by a major candidate since debates have been televised.If R/R win, I think those debates will be famous (and in the second case infamous) for decades to come.
Posted by: lael at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (r7XUK)
goody for me...but GODDAMN do the steelers need to learn how to play at night...
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at October 12, 2012 12:51 AM (nVqtU)
Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (g5+dk)
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Yes, because Chris Christie is so not a rude jackass.
Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (pnHKr)
Also: "If a job was created for every lie my opponent said, employment in Nevada would double"
Heh.
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (sZTYJ)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (Yw6IK)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (WCzJ6)
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Except how much money you make, what you spend it on, what you are allowed to say, where you send your kids to school, your freedom to worship, what insurance you have, what you eat, what you do with your free time, etc.
Good point, though.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (OmkU2)
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (QTHTd)
Ten or twenty thousand hand written letters demanding their dismissal would probably cause quite a stir.
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 12, 2012 12:54 AM (Yw6IK)
Posted by: The Veepster at October 12, 2012 12:54 AM (eKWTg)
Actually I think the 'moderating' in these first two debates has been more fair to the GOP than that in the GOP primaries.
Posted by: RioBravo at October 12, 2012 12:55 AM (gC/3o)
His rambling and bumbling made him look extremely foolish.
Posted b
vascular dementia brought on by mini-strokes. Not kidding. He will want to be rethinking his whole position on the death panel deal
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 12:55 AM (Dnbau)
Locked in a 69 on a bed of Frosted Brown Sugar Pop-Tarts.
Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2012 12:52 AM (g5+dk)
They'll have a one-hour special dedicated to scissoring pie crust.
Posted by: eman at October 12, 2012 12:55 AM (+XD7n)
Why? So we can end up back there in 10 years in a bigger a wider War?
Way to think it through Brainiac!
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 12:55 AM (6sLo8)
I denounce myself for this sexist post.
Posted by: Adam at October 12, 2012 12:56 AM (/YJYi)
I predicted that Biden would sling bullshit, and that he'd be the avuncular, happy warrior in doing so. I would not have bet on Slow Joe letting Crazy Joe out of the box.
Maybe Axelrod overprepared him. Maybe Joe's Joker act was the result of feeling too confident.
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 12:56 AM (o+SC1)
************
What I need, is a compliant and randy female Tickle-Me Emo, one searching for someone to light her up, a "live one", if you know what I mean...
I can hear the little broken cries of delight already!!!
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at October 12, 2012 12:56 AM (2c1Cq)
NV04 Debate. The Dem (Horsford) came across as a know-it-all college Freshman (who major includes the word "studies"). Tarkanian (the GOPer) was forceful and continuously started every response with a "there he goes again" comment about how his opponent misrepresents him and is a liar; however, he had a 5 o'clock shadow and was sweating perfusely almost like he was having a heart attack...
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 12:56 AM (sZTYJ)
It was buffoonery. Clownishness. Blowhardery.
Posted by: runninrebel at October 12, 2012 12:56 AM (N/1Dm)
The instant polls: CNBC had it Ryan 56%-36%, CBS Biden 50%-31%, CNN Ryan 48%-44%, AP Ryan 51%-43%.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2012 12:57 AM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2012 12:57 AM (LTbLf)
This Obama campaign is saying, We don't want to compete with Mitt Romney. We want to obliterate him.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at October 12, 2012 12:57 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Crazee (@Crazizzle) at October 12, 2012 12:58 AM (626t3)
I won't forget Anderson Cooper's smirk-a-thon in a hurry. What a disgrace.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 12:58 AM (QTHTd)
BeckoningChasm 351:
That is a great story about Some Like It Hot, one of the funniest movies ever.
Posted by: Gary Rosen at October 12, 2012 12:59 AM (Kz60W)
Posted by: Joe Biden, full scholarship winner at October 12, 2012 12:59 AM (nZvGM)
Posted by: yomomma at October 12, 2012 12:59 AM (DKLl9)
NV03 Debate. Incumbent Joe Heck (GOP) was smooth and well spoken. His
opponent was wooden and did nothing but repeat Dem talking points
without passion.
NV04 Debate. The Dem (Horsford) came across as a know-it-all
college Freshman (who major includes the word "studies"). Tarkanian
(the GOPer) was forceful and continuously started every response with a
"there he goes again" comment about how his opponent misrepresents him
and is a liar; however, he had a 5 o'clock shadow and was sweating
perfusely almost like he was having a heart attack...
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 12:56 AM (sZTYJ)
Didn't The Shark sweat like a whore in church too? Seems to me that will remind viewers of his dad.
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 12, 2012 12:59 AM (Zd/NW)
The solution is to change the rules of engagement and start playing hard ball. Over there we are targets, when we should be feared!
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 01:00 AM (6sLo8)
A poor man's Kirsten Powers
Posted by: Methos at October 12, 2012 01:00 AM (6LvlL)
Posted by: Mars Bar at October 12, 2012 01:00 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 01:00 AM (0aTEo)
Raddatz should have stuck a breathalyzer in Joe's face before she decided she really wanted him to run the table tonight.
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 01:01 AM (o+SC1)
God help me, but it felt good. Also, the 7 drinks and the O's winning might have helped.
Posted by: DC in Towson at October 12, 2012 01:01 AM (CJwi5)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 12, 2012 01:02 AM (piMMO)
It was buffoonery. Clownishness. Blowhardery.
Aww...you noticed!
Why so...serious?
Posted by: Joe-the-Joker-Biden at October 12, 2012 01:02 AM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at October 12, 2012 01:02 AM (/gEaK)
The thing about Stephanie Cutter is,
*************
the thing is, she's the kind of scrunt that gave rise to the idea of "vagina dentata".
Would any moron out there contemplate going to bed with her w/o wearing a metal condom, something like that thingy a slide guitarist puts on his finger?
After all, her full name is "Stephanie Bolt Cutter"...
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at October 12, 2012 01:02 AM (2c1Cq)
I just realized where I've heard that voice before...it's the disembodied Soviet brainwashing voice from the reeducation camp scene in Red Dawn.
Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at October 12, 2012 01:02 AM (+r4NB)
Posted by: @PurpAv at October 12, 2012 12:54 AM (Yw6IK)
I'm in, but I'm disorganized. We should have a mini-campaign or something. Coordinate.
Or, someone else should coordinate, and I'll send a letter.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 12, 2012 01:03 AM (bxiXv)
The war is on you
Ladies, the religious believe you are inferior and need direction.
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Not that you're interested, snickers, but if you say that the right way at the right time to the right chick it would make her hot to trot.
Posted by: runninrebel at October 12, 2012 01:03 AM (N/1Dm)
One of those is not like the others.
/S.A.T.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2012 01:03 AM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 01:03 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: axel shrugged at October 12, 2012 01:04 AM (Q2wni)
Keep it going, everyone that you discuss the debate with, especially undecideds. Justquietly mention, "didn't Biden come off as kinda a weirdo?"
It's working...
Posted by: Log Cabin at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (JV/H0)
Posted by: Jim Sonweed at October 12, 2012 01:02 AM (2c1Cq)
That's basically what I said........
Posted by: Adam at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: MrCaniac at October 12, 2012 12:59 AM (Zd/NW)
the fact that he reminds people of his dad is the only reason why the GOP has a chance to pick up the seat. I was drawn to be a heavy Dem district with the population center around the hell that is North Las Vegas with a bunch of rurals to fill the districts quota.
Tarkanian is ahead in the rural areas (naturally), but AHEAD in the urban areas (though behind in the suburbs). Most recent poll showed him ahead (though within MOE) even as Romney was loosinb by 8+ in the district).
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (sZTYJ)
"Yes, because Chris Christie is so not a rude jackass."
Chris Christie has one of the highest approval ratings of any Governor in the country, and he's a Republican in a deep blue state.
Clearly, there's a right way and a wrong way to strongly assert your principles without being an ass. Christie obviously knows how to do it the right way.
I just found Paul Ryan to be too meek. What saved him was Biden acting like a buffoon.
Posted by: Jeepers at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (XDRsa)
Martha Raddatz - the worst moderator in debate history (including all the way down to kindergarten debates).
I am more incensed with her than Joe, who was just being his normal crazy jerk self. (OK, maybe more jerk-like than usual.)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at October 12, 2012 12:01 AM
398
Eva Longoria tweets that Martha Raddatz is the best moderator ever!!!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 11, 2012 11:24 PM
Eva also thinks Mark Sanchez is an NFL quarterback..
Posted by: kbdabear at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (wwsoB)
HEY JASON! The Jerk Store called. They're running down my leg!!
Posted by: Joe 'Jerk' Biden at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 12, 2012 01:05 AM (/i3Yt)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 01:06 AM (sZTYJ)
Which is great for us, if a bit baffling. I would have thought, after Obama's drubbing, that Joe would have been put on a short leash with very specific do's and don'ts. But Joe has a talent for evading the leash. I think he must have been a cat in a previous life, but not one of the good cats. One of the loud yowling ones that refuse to use the litterbox.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 12, 2012 01:06 AM (i0App)
Would
any moron out there contemplate going to bed with her w/o wearing a
metal condom, something like that thingy a slide guitarist puts on his
finger?
---------------
You might be able to use a slide-guitarist's bottleneck.
Me? I need Oscar's garbage can, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Big Bird at October 12, 2012 01:06 AM (aVH2N)
I am soooo discouraged by Bidens passionate performance I am not even gonna vote...
not believable?
Biden's answer were so filled with awesome that I have decided to vote for him.
or
I am a hateful looney OWSer and would vote for the JEF anyway but I don't know How to register
Posted by: Thunderb at October 12, 2012 01:08 AM (Dnbau)
Posted by: Mayday at October 12, 2012 01:08 AM (F3s39)
Me? I need Oscar's garbage can, IYKWIMAITYD.>>
The one in a (soon to be illegal) McDonald's happy meal toy?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 12, 2012 01:09 AM (0aTEo)
"Why are trolls so repetitious and un-clever?"
The smart liberals know this one is lost. They have given up.
All that are left are low-wage hobos getting paid to spew copypasta talking points crap in forums and blogs.
They probably have to search him for Thunderbird to keep him awake and posting drivel during his working hours.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:09 AM (wYVte)
That's all she got out before I knocked her out.
Posted by: runninrebel at October 12, 2012 01:09 AM (N/1Dm)
"While
Ryan was disciplined and relentlessly on message, Biden was, for lack of
a better word,"
He should've stopped there.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 01:10 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Joe at October 12, 2012 01:10 AM (RfHJs)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 01:10 AM (0It32)
May have also used the word "feisty" to describe Jimmy McMillain and/or The Miami Cannibal.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 12, 2012 01:11 AM (bxiXv)
Since at least 60% of the Dem base are fucking assholes, I suppose they got what they wanted.
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 01:11 AM (o+SC1)
The outcome of this election decides whether the Democrat party gets any power in the 8 years. If Romney wins, Congress will be controlled by Republicans for 12 years......and the democrat insiders know it!
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 01:11 AM (6sLo8)
Me? I need Oscar's garbage can, IYKWIMAITYD.
You would if you weren't a bottom, you over-grown feather duster.
Posted by: Super Grover at October 12, 2012 01:12 AM (z9HTb)
Hey, Ladies
Do I turn you on with my repetitive trolling? Axelfraud forgot to tell me that the Wars on Womyns is yesterday's meme and that the polls are up for RR despite that shopworn trope. I didn't get the latest talking points because I'm not a very effective troll. But this is the best I can do. Sorry.
Posted by: snickers bar at October 12, 2012 01:12 AM (Q2wni)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 01:13 AM (6sLo8)
Ah, now I'm smiling.
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 01:13 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: runninrebel at October 12, 2012 01:14 AM (N/1Dm)
It's been interesting following along. Just now caught up. Didn't watch, didn't need the aggravation.
I used to negotiate with human sharks as part of my work. One tactic in face to face situations is to go opposite of the way your adversary begins.
Ryan had no chance to out-aggress Biden, so better to play nice guy. Ryan made no big mistakes. Biden was nasty. This debate didn't change the race. Romney has the momentum, that's where we are at right now.
Posted by: Meremortal at October 12, 2012 01:14 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:15 AM (wYVte)
Oh, hello, Grover.
I didn't know you hung out in this dump too.
Posted by: Big Bird at October 12, 2012 01:15 AM (aVH2N)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 01:15 AM (0It32)
Posted by: Team America at October 12, 2012 01:15 AM (E7Iyp)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2012 01:16 AM (PHb2k)
And Barry was being a pussy. Romney and Ryan were being dicks. Not huge
dicks, but average dicks.
Not so fast; I'm writing this down.
Posted by: Trey Parker at October 12, 2012 01:16 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: Jimi at October 12, 2012 01:17 AM (6sLo8)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:18 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 01:18 AM (o+SC1)
1896, "aggressive, exuberant, touchy," Amer.Eng., with -y (2) + feist "small dog," earlier fice, fist (Amer.Eng., 1805); short for fysting curre "stinking cur," attested from 1520s, from M.E. fysten, fisten "break wind" (mid-15c.); related to O.E. fisting "stink," from P.Gmc. *fistiz- "a fart," said to be from PIE *pezd- (see fart), but there are difficulties.
So, if Biden is "feisty", it means he's a stinkin' gasbag
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 12, 2012 01:18 AM (QTHTd)
Posted by: davidt at October 12, 2012 01:18 AM (8/bPb)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:20 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Snickers at October 12, 2012 01:20 AM (/YJYi)
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at October 12, 2012 01:20 AM (0It32)
Posted by: JEM at October 12, 2012 01:21 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 12, 2012 01:21 AM (1Y+hH)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:21 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Snickers nuts in my stool at October 12, 2012 01:22 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: inquiring minds wish to know at October 12, 2012 01:22 AM (Q2wni)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:21 AM (wYVte)
And yet you probably respect those that believe in that nasty old god! How disgusting!!!ELEVENY!!!
Posted by: Snickers at October 12, 2012 01:23 AM (/YJYi)
The problem with playing to your base is they are there....Even some moderate Dems would not like this. I disagree with Ace again..some Moderate Dems I think would see Biden's bizaar begavior and Romney's and Ryan's calm professional behavior and would BOLT!! Sorry Ace...this played to the far left of the Dem base. People can disagree over issues but when you act like a Nut Job and so Obnoxious you turn moderates and undecideds off....not to mention make conservatives even more energized.
Biden put the OBAMA ADM in a bad place in Libya saying there was NO ADDITIONAL security requested...JOE we have documents to dispute that...I am sure the Obama People SIGHED over LIBYA....it is getting worse and Biden just stunk it up and lied....and then put the votes on Iraq and Afghan and BOOM!! Joe as usual...Let Joe be Joe.....his behavior will turn off Indies and I would imagine many ladies....He was awful....I mean he is being panned left and right for his behavior....that is what will be remembered outside of his Libyan remark.
I do feel Ryan made some excellent points against Obama in the last 20 minutes or so and I loved that!! Biden said nothing about Mitt and just displayed the worst behavior I have ever seen.....He was bombastic and rude....he hurt Obama with moderates in Dem and Indies...sorry...and he offered nothing on new ideas at all on the economy!
Posted by: bluerose75 at October 12, 2012 01:24 AM (HDcKc)
But apparently folks like Jefferson are just to old and complicated for you to fathom.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:24 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:25 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Snickers nuts in my stool at October 12, 2012 01:26 AM (JRU+g)
It's your Prez who apparently thinks Anti-Blasphemy laws are a good idea.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:26 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:28 AM (wYVte)
Trolls are simple-minded. If you're a conservative or libertarian you must be religious. They truly are that stupid. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that some people are fiscally conservative but socially libertarian on certain issues.
And the fact that this blog uses profanity and free-wheeling sexual references which means that most commenters can't be all that religious escapes the trolls' pea brains. Does not compute.
Posted by: obie doobie at October 12, 2012 01:28 AM (Q2wni)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:28 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Rich at October 12, 2012 01:30 AM (pnHKr)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 12, 2012 01:30 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: Meremortal at October 12, 2012 01:31 AM (1Y+hH)
The other two snickers have different hashes.
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:31 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Kristophr at October 12, 2012 01:33 AM (wYVte)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 12, 2012 01:34 AM (JRU+g)
Posted by: obie doobie at October 12, 2012 01:37 AM (Q2wni)
Posted by: Snickers at October 12, 2012 01:23 AM (/YJYi)
Hey, there! Who are you calling a nasty old god?!?!??
Posted by: cthulhu at October 12, 2012 01:45 AM (kaalw)
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 12, 2012 01:45 AM (F0o5k)
Batchelor was also irked by Biden's grimacing, constant interrupting ("cross-talk"), and unserious response to the questions.
These are Monkey Tactics. Biden acted like a Baboon, showing his blue behind and baring his teeth whenever Ryan was attempting to make a point or clarify something.
"Here we sit in a branchy row,
Thinking of beautiful things we know;
Dreaming of deeds that we mean to do,
All complete, in a minute or two--
Something noble and wise and good,
Done by merely wishing we could.
We've forgotten, but--never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!"
Song of the Bandar-log [Monkey People], by Rudyard Kipling
Posted by: beverly at October 12, 2012 01:54 AM (R/vnw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uz5rFuYNu0
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 01:57 AM (sZTYJ)
behind and baring his teeth whenever Ryan was attempting to make a point
or clarify something."
Don't forget the feces flinging. That's the fun part.
Posted by: Baboon at October 12, 2012 01:58 AM (8/bPb)
Posted by: Lyin' Biden at October 12, 2012 02:01 AM (Q2wni)
Posted by: ZombieFlanders at October 12, 2012 02:10 AM (YGxEA)
New post: When Congressmen Attack!
"Looks like things have gotten a wee bit testy between Congressional rivals Rep. Brad Sherman and Rep. Howard Berman. They are both vying for the newly drawn 30th Congressional District in California. Due to California’s new “Jungle Primary,” where the top two vote getters regardless of party advance to the November election, the 30th Congressional district features two entrenched Democrats vying for the same seat with a fury reminiscent of the Mensheviks/Bolsheviks a hundred years ago, or perhaps Stalin vs. Trotsky?"
http://politicalhat.com/?p=173
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 12, 2012 02:18 AM (sZTYJ)
I never smile if I can help it. Showing one's teeth is a submission
signal in primates. When someone smiles at me, all I see is a chimpanzee
begging for its life.
Posted by: Dwight Schrute, back when The Office was actually funny at October 12, 2012 02:18 AM (S3Kgx)
I knew all along Ryan would "pass the test."
You can't fake decency.
Which is also why Biden loses.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at October 12, 2012 02:19 AM (F0o5k)
Posted by: Optimizer at October 12, 2012 02:51 AM (As94z)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 12, 2012 02:56 AM (KY8Kg)
I want some of that "cake"! FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP FAP
Posted by: AgentLobos at October 12, 2012 02:58 AM (NunKe)
Posted by: Hard Right at October 12, 2012 03:14 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2012 05:40 AM (0nogT)
Posted by: Smilin' Joe at October 12, 2012 06:26 AM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: JB at October 12, 2012 06:33 AM (xVcWj)
I miss my 35 year old body
Where did you last leave her?
Posted by: andycanuckHeshould consider leaving asection in various locations so you're never without. That's what rusty tin boxes are for.
Posted by: Smilin' Joe at October 12, 2012 06:33 AM (Rrc6j)
Posted by: al Imboden at October 12, 2012 06:34 AM (D2IWr)
Posted by: Bets at October 12, 2012 06:40 AM (aSWF8)
Gawd! What an oafish buffoon.......someone needs to seriously tell this old guy that he's just not that funny. It was almost sad to watch some old gezzer laughing at his own jokes and thinking everyone was laughing WITH him.
And, I was too busy watching to see if his false teeth fell out during one of his rampages.
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