Turkey Intercepts Syrian Passenger Aircraft, En Route From Russia, On Suspicion It Was Carrying Weapons

And when we say weapons, we mean chemical weapons and other nasties.

Correction: The plane was flying from Russia to Syria and is not suspected of ferrying weapons out of Syria, but into Syria.

Apologies. I completely misheard this story on Fox and conflated it with the troop movements to Jordan. When I looked up the story in print, I thought I understood it from the misheard TV report.

...

Now I know what you're thinking, with regard to Iraq. And I'm thinking that too. There's an article by a guy whose name I forget -- I believe he was a Greek, and I believe he was formerly a Communist agent, and I believe he wrote on National Review for a time.

And I can't quite remember what he said, but he asserted that Russia had plans with all of its satrapies to evacuate the Nasty Stuff out upon collapse of the regime they'd been helping.

Hopefully you'll remember.

As mentioned earlier, US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border, looking for cross-border movement of chemical weapons stocks.

Posted by: Ace at 06:47 PM



Comments

1 Why can't the Jorastinians patrol their own fucking border? Pussies.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 10, 2012 06:50 PM (jucos)

2 Russia has satrapies and we don't even have minions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 06:50 PM (QKKT0)

3

Ah, that's a truly good reason to send our troops there immediately and without much debate. imminent global insecurity is indeed a valid reason for the use of our military without approval of congress.


Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 06:51 PM (UaxA0)

4 Well, if they were using aircraft then that stuff, whatever it is, is important.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 06:51 PM (N/1Dm)

5 Ho hum.

Did they strap a fucking dog on the roof at least?

Posted by: MSM at October 10, 2012 06:51 PM (KZi9D)

6 OT, but I wanted to post it again where you guys would read it-- the hoopla about the video may have beenan attempt to erode the 1st Amendment in the same way F andF was an attempt to erode the 2nd amendment. Wouldn't put it past this crew

Posted by: artemis at October 10, 2012 06:51 PM (2XMD1)

7 Syrian airline security clearly leaves something to be desired.

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at October 10, 2012 06:51 PM (QKKT0)

8 Not Greek,Romanian defector.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 06:51 PM (6o4Fb)

9 Can somebody debunk this Obama ring story I'm seeing? Obama can't really be wearing a gold ring with the Arabic inscription "There is no god but Allah", right? Right?

I honestly want to believe that TheBlaze got fooled by WND, which went off on some crazy tangent, which WND is know to do.

But they seem to have pictures. They seem to have solid evidence It seems to be true.

But that would be crazy. So I'm really hoping somebody can point to a snopes article or something that explains this is a rightwing conspiracy theory and the pics are photoshopped or something.

thanks.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (ZPrif)

10 If y ou can't trust Syrian planes flying out of Russia, who can you trust?

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (Hx5uv)

11 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (6o4Fb)

12 "There's an article by a guy whose name I forget -- I believe he was a
Greek, and I believe he was formerly a Communist agent, and I believe he
wrote on National Review for a time."

Ion Mihai Pacepa of Romania? According to NRO, he was "the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc".

Posted by: DKCZ at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (9/bcB)

13 Mitt Romney used chemical weapons to cut some guy's hair.

Posted by: MSM at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (KZi9D)

14 ace,

Coming FROM Russia, not TO Russia.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (X/+QT)

15 Chant with me- Bush Lied! Nevermind!

Posted by: Code Pink, Move-onDot Org, and assorted Democrat Assholes at October 10, 2012 06:52 PM (1FOy5)

16 Ion Pacepa. Romanian. He writes at PJM now: http://pjmedia.com/mihaipacepa/

Posted by: Charlie (Colorado) at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (p/uDO)

17 I read this that the plane was flying from Russia to Syria, not the other way around.

Posted by: catmman at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (C8XlI)

18 Jordan is a river in the Mormon bible.

Posted by: MSM at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (KZi9D)

19
Protecting the Jordanian border but not our own.

Posted by: YIKES! at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (6v/Tu)

20 Chant with me- BUT WHAT ABOUT ROMNEY'S GAAAAAAFES!!?!!

Posted by: Code Pink, Move-onDot Org, and assorted Democrat Assholes And The MFM at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (1FOy5)

21 Turns out I am a pretty good 8 dimensional chess player.

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (jucos)

22 But, but Bush lied about the WMD's!!!!!!

Jeez, in all seriousness, if those weapons are from Saddam's stockpiles, the Democrats are dooooomed (MFM cover-ups notwithstanding).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2012 06:54 PM (vCK/R)

23 R.I.P. Ambassador Smith

Posted by: Elijah Cummings, CBC at October 10, 2012 06:54 PM (KZi9D)

24 I remember some time ago President Bush said Iraq's WMD were transferred to Syria. Story has probably been scrubbed. Bush took the "liar" heat, ostensibly for national security reasons..

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 06:55 PM (BVkEs)

25 But, but,......IRAQ!

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 06:55 PM (isjdZ)

26 I'd like to see Dick Cheney give an interview again about WMDs in Syria. Can we TOTALLY discredit the MSMnow?

Posted by: BitterClingy&Buried at October 10, 2012 06:55 PM (QQcJv)

27 Syria. Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson weeping because Obama didn't come to my wedding at October 10, 2012 06:55 PM (1FOy5)

28 This is clearly Bush's fault. Anyone could see that.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 06:56 PM (GRvW4)

29 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Posted by: Preznit Urkel X at October 10, 2012 06:56 PM (jucos)

30 "MONGO LIKE YELLOW-CAKE!"







(sorry, Alex. RIP)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2012 06:56 PM (vCK/R)

31 But was it To Russia, With Love?

Posted by: Sean Connerly IS James Bond at October 10, 2012 06:57 PM (1FOy5)

32 I read this that the plane was flying from Russia to Syria, not the other way around.
Posted by: catmman at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (C8XlI)


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I don't think this has anything to do with WMDs. I think it's just Turkey fucking with Syria.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 06:57 PM (isjdZ)

33 Syriana was a George Clooney movie. THAT I've heard of.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 10, 2012 06:57 PM (KZi9D)

34 Jeez, in all seriousness, if those weapons are from Saddam's stockpiles, the Democrats are dooooomed (MFM cover-ups notwithstanding).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2012 06:54 PM (vCK/R)


MFM coverups are always withstanding, and evergreen, and like a freaking flood of vomit.

Have I mentioned that I am not fond of the MFM, generally speaking? Because it occurs to me sometimes that maybe I don't say it enough.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (bxiXv)

35 "Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD"- http://bit.ly/Rg774m

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (YjDyJ)

36 WTH happened to Turkey? They're acting normal.

Posted by: Up up with people! at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (kzFo5)

37 22 But, but Bush lied about the WMD's!!!!!!

Jeez, in all seriousness, if those weapons are from Saddam's stockpiles, the Democrats are dooooomed (MFM cover-ups notwithstanding).
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2012 06:54 PM (vCK/R)


Where else would they have come from?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (teJLm)

38 yeah, yeah, who cares, more importantly, Stacey Dash is single.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (Z9EHQ)

39 I don't think this has anything to do with WMDs. I think it's just Turkey fucking with Syria.

In Middle East, turkey stuffs you.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnov at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (QKKT0)

40 And here comes the shitstorm...Where is Bush???

Posted by: anna at October 10, 2012 06:59 PM (0n5hY)

41 Turkey is trying to overthrow Assad and install an Islamist govt.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 06:59 PM (ZPrif)

42 But I've never heard of George Clooney. Is he on one of the cables?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 10, 2012 06:59 PM (1FOy5)

43 @32,

Maybe, though the article does say they found "suspicious cargo" or some such. Maybe the Russkies are trying to give Assad a hand?

Posted by: catmman at October 10, 2012 06:59 PM (C8XlI)

44 Russia has a history of fulfilling equipment contracts in the months and weeks before conflicts begin.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 06:59 PM (N/1Dm)

45 I heard biden said that these are not the chemical weapons you are looking for, "none have any markings written in iraqi."

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:00 PM (Z9EHQ)

46 Charlie Gibson? WTF? Who's that?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:00 PM (bxiXv)

47 35"Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD"- http://bit.ly/Rg774mPosted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (YjDyJ)Is WMD a porno web-site I haven't heard of ?

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 10, 2012 07:01 PM (1FOy5)

48 45 I heard biden said that these are not the chemical weapons you are looking for, "none have any markings written in iraqi."

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:00 PM (Z9EHQ)


"There are some squiggles on here with the numbers, but they could be anything!"

Posted by: Bo Jiden at October 10, 2012 07:02 PM (bxiXv)

49 Remember when the world got pissed that the Israelis disappeared the Syrian Nuclear Reactor. Just imagine a nuclear armed Syria at this point.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 10, 2012 07:02 PM (jucos)

50 14 ace,
Coming FROM Russia, not TO Russia.


Yup....Ace has got it backasswards.

ACE

*waves hands*

Check your link again....

"State-run TRT television said an Airbus A320 coming from Moscow was intercepted by F-16 jets as it entered Turkish airspace and escorted to the capital's Esenboga Airport. ..."


Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 07:02 PM (l5RhJ)

51 The airplane was coming from Russia to Syria...via Fox News...http://tinyurl.com/8rqt6f6

Posted by: antisocialist at October 10, 2012 07:02 PM (j/nZn)

52 Please correct: en route FROM RUSSIA to DAMASCUS, not vice versa.

Posted by: goy at October 10, 2012 07:02 PM (QsFws)

53 The Russians flew in gear to help the Iraqis before we attacked of course,including GPS jammers.They are an open enemy despite GWB and his personal connection with Putin or the Obama "reset" button.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:03 PM (6o4Fb)

54 If I'm the 19th person to point out the directional description error, do I win a Premium membership?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:04 PM (bxiXv)

55 WTH happened to Turkey? They're acting normal.

Realpolitik will do that to you.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 10, 2012 07:04 PM (4+LTj)

56 Larry Elder interviews General George Sada, who served as the second-highest ranked general in the Iraqi Air Force.


Elder: What happened to the chemical and biological weapons?

Sada: The chemical and biological weapons were
available in Iraq before liberating the country, but Saddam Hussein
took the advantage of a natural disaster that happened in Syria when a
dam was collapsed and many villages were flooded. So Saddam Hussein
took that cover and declared to the world that he is going to use the
civilian aircraft for an air bridge to help Syria with blankets, food
and fuel oil, and other humanitarian things, but that was not true. The
truth is he converted two regular passenger civilian aircraft, 747
Jumbo and 727 . . . all the weapons of mass destruction were put there
by the special Republican Guards in a very secret way, and they were
transported to Syria, to Damascus, by flying 56 flights to Damascus. . .
. In addition . . . also a truck convoy on the ground to take whatever
has to do with WMD to Syria.

Elder: I've always thought it incredible, bizarre,
unbelievable, that our intelligence could have been wrong, British
intelligence could have been wrong, the French, the Germans, the
Russians, the U.N., the Egyptians, the Jordanians, all of whom thought
he had WMD. I never felt comfortable with the idea that everybody got it
wrong. . . .

Sada: Your intelligence said that Saddam Hussein
had WMD. . . . I agree with them. They were there in Iraq. But they
didn't find them after liberation of Iraq, because they were searching
not in the right place. These things were transported by air and by
ground.

http://tinyurl.com/8v9hx8c

Posted by: Hepcat at October 10, 2012 07:04 PM (frbyY)

57 Of course, anything coming FROM Russia TO Syria could be, er, problematic, as well.

(For "problematic", read "lethal")

Posted by: antisocialist at October 10, 2012 07:04 PM (j/nZn)

58 heh, it s a little important to get the direction of flight important in story. I was impressed with how much attention to detail the russians were doing to confiscate the wmds.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:05 PM (Z9EHQ)

59 It might be to evac Assad's family before the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 07:05 PM (r2PLg)

60 @9
I believe the actual inscription is something along the lines of "One ring to rule them all."

Posted by: Dante at October 10, 2012 07:05 PM (NWLVJ)

61 Nothing surprises me anymore. In OIF I, we (4 ID) found a nice little ammo dump with brand new german made 155 mm arty rounds. And when I say brand new, I mean with 2003 stamped on them. Don't get me started on the mustard gas mortar rounds used as IEDs in baghdad in 2006.

Posted by: Assassin6 at October 10, 2012 07:05 PM (FfukH)

62 Turkey has long had issues with Syria--water rights.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (r2PLg)

63 Supposedly satellites observed the ruck convoys going into Stria prior to our invasion.Why GWB stayed silent I don't know.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (6o4Fb)

64 We denounce Turkey for their actions!

Wait.

They're Muslims.

We can't denounce that.

We denounce our denouncement.

We denounce Russia!

Oh wait.

So very, very sorry my Lord Putin (bowing.)

We denounce the USA!

Yes. That is indeed the right response to this situation.

/looks around for someone to bow to....

Posted by: Obama and Hillary at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (z63Tr)

65 O/T, but Elijah Cummings is a complete, total jackass.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (j/nZn)

66 63 Jesus,truck convoys heading into Syria.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (6o4Fb)

67 Fruit of Kaboom II

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 07:07 PM (ovpNn)

68 I don't know about any Greeks but there was an Iraqi Ir Force General named Georges Sada who wrote a whole book on it, Saddam's Secrets.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:07 PM (TMB3S)

69 Are Russian troops on the ground in Syria or not?Something else no one talks about.They don't want to get Assad out they want to keep him in power or they lose prestige yet again.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (6o4Fb)

70 truck convoys heading into Syria.
Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (6o4Fb)

interesting fact, the nsa intercepted communications from the convoy, sounds as if they are listening to the song convoy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (Z9EHQ)

71 I'm not joking that I'd like to see something credible that debunks the Obama gold ring with Arabic inscription about how Allah is super-awesome.

It's a big deal if true. It's a ring he's worn since his 20s and had fashioned into his wedding ring (according to the story). So it has deep personal meaning to him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (ZPrif)

72
OT: but it's a poll, I can't resist. You've probably seen it already, but just to piss off the trolls, today's IBD/TIPP tracking poll:

Romney: 49%
Obit4bama: 44%

And yes, it's D+8

Wow.

Posted by: Meremortal, it wasn't me at October 10, 2012 07:09 PM (1Y+hH)

73 We had Lebanese friends who swore some of the WMDs from Iraq went to the A Bekka valley in Syria. I don't believe a word out of democrat's mouth after the hearings today.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 10, 2012 07:10 PM (c/Glr)

74 Shit, comrade! There goes our same-day delivery plan!

Posted by: WalMartski at October 10, 2012 07:10 PM (vDl/w)

75 So, has Obama plunged us into more wars than W yet? I think he has.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 07:10 PM (I2LwF)

76 >>>Why can't the Jorastinians patrol their own fucking border?

We bartered this in exchange for control of Jordanian airspace in preparation for a strike on Iranian nuclear facilities?

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 07:11 PM (vm7ot)

77 What I remember was that there was some satellite imagery of Russian convoys hauling ass out of Iraq, into the Bekaa valley with all of Saddam's chem weapons stash. I remember some grumbling about not wanting to drag Russia into the mix at the time, or some other bullshit. They sold them to Saddam, and didn't want a bunch of gas-filled shells with Russian writing on CNN.

Posted by: Gromulin at October 10, 2012 07:11 PM (7Zrx4)

78 65 O/T, but Elijah Cummings is a complete, total jackass.
Posted by: antisocialist at October 10,


He is Elijah Smith, from now fucking on.

What an asshole. I give a fuck about his "history" in civil rights. That free pass was over the day Obama was sworn in.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at October 10, 2012 07:12 PM (KZi9D)

79 70 And Keep on truckin'.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:12 PM (6o4Fb)

80 57 Of course, anything coming FROM Russia TO Syria could be, er, problematic, as well.(For "problematic", read "lethal")


Yuhuh.
It says in the article.....

"According to reports, the equipment found on the plane also included "military communication devices and components that could be used for missiles.""


An Airbus A320 [large plane]...carrying missile parts and com devices...headed to Syria, from Russia.
What could possibly be wrong with this picture?

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 07:12 PM (l5RhJ)

81 Ion Mihai Pacepa

pj media

Posted by: newrouter at October 10, 2012 07:12 PM (kfeRL)

82 This is all a master plan to set the stage for the Blind Sheik's Homecoming.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (ovpNn)

83 Why GWB stayed silent I don't know.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (6o4Fb)


How do you think you found out about it, pixies?

The left conspired with the MFM to cover it up, just like everything else that doesn't benefit them.

They just lie constantly, and try to drown out everyone else.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (bxiXv)

84
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (ZPrif)

The closeup photos I've seen of the ring seem to show symbols. Muslim-y looking symbols. Also, a hindu god symbol.That's all I've got.

Posted by: Meremortal, remembering at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (1Y+hH)

85 The Russians have a military base and port on Syrian soil already. It should be easy enough to bring weapons in and WMDs out through there.

Wasn't it Clapper that just admitted last week that they have lost track of some of Syria's chemical weapons?

The rebels captured some chem weapon capable missiles last week too. That report may have been from an unreliable source though.


Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (ccXZP)

86 Bush wars:
Iraq - Congress votes Yes
Afghanistan - Congress votes Yes

Obama wars:
Afghanistan (3x surge)
Libya - no Congressional vote
Overthrew Egypt - no Congress vote - installed Muslim Brotherhood
Syria - no Congress vote
Yemen - no Congress vote
Several African nations (not sure which) - no Congress vote

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (ZPrif)

87 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (ZPrif)

Who cares about his ring? He's a terrible president and he's ruining this country. Some ring he's worn since he was a kid (sounds like it could be a memento or something, maybe something his mom gave him) ... Sorry, I just don't care.

Posted by: Timin203 at October 10, 2012 07:14 PM (azmhu)

88 It was an assassination that sparked WWI. The Archduke Ferdinand's.

What event will we remember as the spark that set off WWIII?

If there is any "we" to remember.

There's enough time for this shit to get real while TFG Is still the president.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 10, 2012 07:14 PM (PH+2B)

89 Re 50:

Reading is fundamental. If Romney hadn't killed Big Bird 2 years from now, ace might have learned how to read.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 10, 2012 07:14 PM (X/+QT)

90 80 Nothing new,as I said the Russians are openly our enemy and have been for years now.Some blame us,that missile defense and Eastern NATO expansion made the Russians feel"surrounded",well fuck them.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:14 PM (6o4Fb)

91 I didn't see any mention of chemical weapons....Also, the plane was flying from Moscow, to Damascus.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 10, 2012 07:14 PM (L7hol)

92 Are Russian troops on the ground in Syria or not?Something else no one
talks about.They don't want to get Assad out they want to keep him in
power or they lose prestige yet again.


They've got a naval base there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartus

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 07:15 PM (lyStv)

93 As mentioned earlier, US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border, looking for cross-border movement of chemical weapons stocks.

Yeah ... LOL on that. The weapons would go to Lebanon, not Jordan - not even through Jordan. I don't know who thinks they could sell this story that Syria would be offloading their weapons (and/or WMD) to or through Jordan. That's just outright silliness. Par for the course for this treasonous junta, though.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:15 PM (X3lox)

94 The Soviet Union never really went away, it just downsized, reorganized, and rebranded.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:16 PM (bxiXv)

95 missile and communications gear? who cares? If assad is interested in that stuff he deserves to be overthrown. He needs cluster bombs and artillery shells .

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:16 PM (Z9EHQ)

96 Shit's really gettin' really real and here I am in Korea this week, Taiwan next week and Japan after that.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at October 10, 2012 07:16 PM (gPi5D)

97 83 GWB also had enemies inside the intel community,as you recall the war of leaks they waged on him.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:16 PM (6o4Fb)

98 This is all a master plan to set the stage for the Blind Sheik's Homecoming.
We insist upon a hooker for each hand.

Posted by: the blind imam's personal secretary appointed to not violate his human rights at October 10, 2012 07:16 PM (vDl/w)

99 Remember when Romney said Russia was our greatest international enemy and the left and the msm laughed?

Funny, huh?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:17 PM (TMB3S)

100 92 I know that,I mean are they engaged in combat operations.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:17 PM (6o4Fb)

101 A while back, Assad said that if there was going to be any foreign intervention in Syria, he'd use WMDs. (Didn't get reported too much, I guess.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:17 PM (boomF)

102
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:15 PM (X3lox)

Got any idea why we're patrolling that border then? Or are we doing something else entirely?

Posted by: Meremortal, remembering at October 10, 2012 07:17 PM (1Y+hH)

103 86
Bush wars:

Iraq - Congress votes Yes

Afghanistan - Congress votes Yes



Obama wars:

Afghanistan (3x surge)

Libya - no Congressional vote

Overthrew Egypt - no Congress vote - installed Muslim Brotherhood

Syria - no Congress vote

Yemen - no Congress vote

Several African nations (not sure which) - no Congress vote

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (ZPrif)

You are forgetting the Race wars he and his team are baiting and the class warfare ginning up thats two more wars.And if you look at his policies, technically he is also engaged in a war against the fundamentals of the american constitution, citizen rights, government limits, and the free market.How this guy has time to fight all these battles and still play 105+ rounds of golf i dont know.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 07:18 PM (ovpNn)

104 99 He's right,though I'd put them roughly on par with China.For plain hostility towards us and our interests the Russians are the worst.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:18 PM (6o4Fb)

105 It was an assassination that sparked WWI. The Archduke Ferdinand's.

Which is Exhibit A in "wars we Brits and Yanks should have stayed the fuck out of".

I will not be joining the war chorus this time around. I don't care who is President.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:19 PM (QTHTd)

106 All together now - "There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq!!!!"

Posted by: Libtards Everywhere at October 10, 2012 07:19 PM (bRK91)

107 Got any idea why we're patrolling that border then? Or are we doing something else entirely?

Posted by: Meremortal, remembering at October 10, 2012 07:17 PM (1Y+hH)


Because Barky wants to pull a Libya in Syria, I would guess. He's inching his way there. I'm thinking the trigger gets pulled right before our election.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:19 PM (X3lox)

108 71...It's a big deal if true. It's a ring he's worn since his 20s and had fashioned into his wedding ring (according to the story). So it has deep personal meaning to him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (ZPrif)


I think the deal was...that he used that ring 'as a wedding ring' too.
He'd been wearing it since the early 80's.
Then, when he and Mooch got married...he gave it to her to put back on his finger, to serve as his wedding ring.

And yeah.
This should be a big deal.
Maybe if the National Inquirer will do a story on it...the other media will finally have to cover it too...like what happened with the JohnEdwards story.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 07:20 PM (l5RhJ)

109 102

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:15 PM (X3lox)

Got any idea why we're patrolling that border then? Or are we doing something else entirely?

Posted by: Meremortal, remembering at October 10, 2012 07:17 PM (1Y+hH)

Maybe the deal on the 36 million dollah mansion in Hawaii fell through and its an advance team looking for a new place for the soon to be El ExPreezydente to chill?

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 07:20 PM (ovpNn)

110 "From Russia With Love, Da Da DAHH"

Posted by: Shitty James Bomd Theme Songs at October 10, 2012 07:20 PM (VrVBw)

111 It's a big deal if true. It's a ring he's worn since his 20s and had fashioned into his wedding ring (according to the story). So it has deep personal meaning to him.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:08 PM (ZPrif)

I think the deal was...that he used that ring 'as a wedding ring' too.
He'd been wearing it since the early 80's.
Then, when he and Mooch got married...he gave it to her to put back on his finger, to serve as his wedding ring.

And yeah.
This should be a big deal.
Maybe if the National Inquirer will do a story on it...the other media will finally have to cover it too...like what happened with the JohnEdwards story.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 07:20 PM (l5RhJ)

Relax, it is all going to come out, and sooner rather than later. everyone on the left is starting to turn on obama and as it gains speed it is all going to leak. his records, his religion, his family, his boyfriends, everything is coming. you only need popcorn or chips.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:22 PM (Z9EHQ)

112
They dont give a rat's ass about weapons.

This is about helping the Muslim Brotherhood take over the region.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 07:22 PM (Ba6aP)

113 Obama admin response: Valerie! WHERE THE FUCK IS THAT ASPIRIN FACTORY I CAN BOMB?????

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 07:22 PM (UTq/I)

114 So you guys do realize El Preezydente has fundamentally radicalized or put on the path to islamic fanatic radicalization more nations in the middle east than any crazy ass mullah in a turban.

I am beginning to wonder what this Arab Spring actually was....i think we were lied to.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 07:23 PM (ovpNn)

115 >>steevy at October 10, 2012 07:18 PM (6o4Fb)

Of course he's right. The only thing keeping Iran going is Russia. Russia was fucking with us in Iraq. Russia killed our missile defense in Poland. Well, Russia and the dipshit in the WH. Russia the other side of the axis, Iran, Syria and others are just puppets. Without Russia's money and support they would be gone.

Russia hasn't changed much since the days of the USSR. There is still a KGB agent running the show.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:23 PM (TMB3S)

116 Got any idea why we're patrolling that border then? Or are we doing something else entirely?

We're looking for two droids.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 07:23 PM (QKKT0)

117 if it really was a russian plane flying to syria or flying from russia someone should make a correction to the headline or our "smart military blog" is going to get tarnished.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:25 PM (Z9EHQ)

118 Damascus, the oldest continuously inhabited city, will be no more.

So, who's gonna make this thang happen? Israel? Turkey? USA? Combinations?

Posted by: Oracle Dude at October 10, 2012 07:25 PM (BVkEs)

119 relevant article via Drudge:

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia will not renew a decades-old agreement with Washington on dismantling nuclear and chemical weapons when it expires next year, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov was quoted as saying on Wednesday.

The death of the 1991 agreement, which had been renewed twice, is the latest in a series of hitches in relations between the United States and Russia and casts doubt on the future of the much-vaunted "reset" in relations between the Cold War-era foes.


More smart power diplomacy from the 'Overcharge' gang.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 07:25 PM (ccXZP)

120 Syria does not have any money to be making big purchases of weapons with anyway.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:26 PM (Z9EHQ)

121 Damascus, the oldest continuously inhabited city, will be no more.

*cough*

Posted by: Jericho at October 10, 2012 07:26 PM (QKKT0)

122
Why can't the Jorastinians patrol their own fucking border? Pussies.Posted by: Truck Monkey at October 10, 2012 06:50 PM (jucos)


Jordan is about the only moderate arab government Obama hasNOT pissed on yet. They have been friendly to the US for a long time. The previous Queen was a US citizen IIRC. Theyalso kicked the palestinians asses in 1970, 'black September' and drove them out of Jordan.

I really wish we had a couple of mechanized brigades in Iraq. That would be mighty useful optionwhen Syria falls completely apart. But since we do not, I pray we stay out of Syria. Help the Jordanians at their border yes, but stay out of Syria. Otherwise it will be a disaster, because we cannot use our best ally in the region as a staging area.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 07:26 PM (zLp5I)

123 I don't see any way this situation doesn't spark a regional war.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM (N/1Dm)

124 The ring story rests on the arabic script for "There is no god but Allah" being compared to the scripts on the close-up photos of the ring.

Since I can't read Arabic I have no idea if I'm being fooled or tricked.

I don't want to be tricked. But I want to know if Obama's freaking wedding ring has "There is no god but Allah" inscribed on it.

That's important to know.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM (ZPrif)

125 if it really was a russian plane flying to syria or
flying from russia someone should make a correction to the headline or
our "smart military blog" is going to get tarnished.

Posted by: yankeefifth
....

To? From? It's all the same to Ace.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM (UTq/I)

126 >>Syria does not have any money to be making big purchases of weapons with anyway.

Neither did Cuba in the '60s. OR Vietnam in the 70s. Or Angola. Or any number of shitty little countries the communists wanted to use to fuck with us.

Still, the weapons always showed up.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:28 PM (TMB3S)

127 Leave ace alone. It's pr0n thirty.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:28 PM (N/1Dm)

128 re the ring, I recall reading a story about his Pakistani BFF in college, from whom he was pretty much inseparable, and how when the two of them were going around together, O wore a ring.
Maybe that's where to look for info? The guy who wrote about knowing him and the Paki/friend at college? I think Breitbart had the guy's stories, but not sure

Posted by: barbarausa at October 10, 2012 07:28 PM (WWeoI)

129 115

Neotsarist Russia and Communist China do support Iran, but neither of them can control Iran.


And Iraq was in large part a war between the US and Iran. (That's where a lot of the IEDs came from, for example.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:28 PM (boomF)

130 63Supposedly satellites observed the ruck convoys going into Stria prior to our invasion.Why GWB stayed silent I don't know.Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:06 PM (6o4Fb)Just a guess on my part, but I think the Russians told Bush to keep quiet, or they'd let Saddam re-take possession.

Posted by: Libtards Everywhere at October 10, 2012 07:29 PM (bRK91)

131 Sooth: This is about helping the Muslim Brotherhood take over the region.

THIS.

Russia is fighting the Brotherhood on behalf of the Shi`a and Hizbollah, yes, but really on behalf of Syrian Christians. Syrian Christians know that they need a (fellow) minority sect to hold the reigns in their country. Syria is mostly Sunni and many of those Sunni are MoBros.

If Syria gets "democracy", it gets Sunni populist tyranny. And that means genocide for Christians in Syria.

Russia understands this, because Russia is a Christian nation (if not entirely a Western one).

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:29 PM (QTHTd)

132 Neither did Cuba in the '60s. OR Vietnam in the 70s. Or Angola. Or any
number of shitty little countries the communists wanted to use to fuck
with us.



Still, the weapons always showed up.


Ask about our "militarize now, pay later" plan.

Posted by: Crazy Vladimir at October 10, 2012 07:30 PM (QKKT0)

133 Because Barky wants to pull a Libya in Syria, I would guess. He's inching his way there. I'm thinking the trigger gets pulled right before our election.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:19 PM (X3lox) ______ _____ _____ _ ____ _____ _ __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ __ _IfO does that, he blows my theory that he is Shia. Unless Assad has gone bad enough to have lost protection.

Posted by: Meremortal, cogitating at October 10, 2012 07:30 PM (1Y+hH)

134 115
So you support an Muslim Brotherhood government in Syria?

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:30 PM (6Lik1)

135 I think that plane was the new Tupilov "PushmePullyou" version. You can't tell if it's coming or going.

Posted by: Bosk at October 10, 2012 07:31 PM (n2K+4)

136 Between the Russians propping up Assad and Iran wanting to see the Mahdi, I just hope we get through the next few months after the election.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 10, 2012 07:31 PM (c/Glr)

137 @131
Some sanity around here!

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:31 PM (6Lik1)

138 Jericho wasn't continuously occupied.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:32 PM (QTHTd)

139 The only thing missing is this recipe is for a crazy Serb to assassinate someone.


Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at October 10, 2012 07:32 PM (MrO9M)

140 @136
What is your idea for Syria? You want a Muslim Brotherhood regime in Syria? That is the result if Assad falls.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:32 PM (6Lik1)

141 134.

What the fuck are you babbling about numb nuts?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:32 PM (TMB3S)

142 Of course the shit's on a passenger plane. You expected a military cargo plane?

Posted by: harleycowboy at October 10, 2012 07:32 PM (wSTfB)

143 Convoys to Syria? And when did this happen? Seems to me I remember a Democrat Congress basically forcing Bush to dicky do day around, going to the UN yet again etc., for about a month before we could go in.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 10, 2012 07:33 PM (6Zy+s)

144 Was the "Greek" guy actually someone with a Romanian name who also wrote a column a few years back in the WSJ about how the USSR created Arafat?

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 07:33 PM (V/U0X)

145 The question no one is asking:

How is France working this in order to stab us in the back?

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:33 PM (N/1Dm)

146 Russia is fighting the Brotherhood on behalf of the Shi`a and Hizbollah

Man, if there was ever a conflict where the best course of action is to root for the bullets, it's this one.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 07:33 PM (lyStv)

147 I don't want to be tricked. But I want to know if Obama's freaking wedding ring has "There is no god but Allah" inscribed on it.

That's important to know.Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM (ZPrif)------- ------ - ------- - ----You need to get the photo blowups to an Arab you can trust (no laughing!).

Posted by: Meremortal, smiling at October 10, 2012 07:33 PM (1Y+hH)

148 I don't want to be tricked. But I want to know if Obama's freaking wedding ring has "There is no god but Allah" inscribed on it.

That's important to know.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM (ZPrif)


It's not a trick. WND put up enough images and stuff to prove their point pretty damn well.

Aside from that, how many wedding bands have any inscriptions on the outside, at all? Not in the Western world, at least. We tend to have, as said, wedding "bands", maybe with internal inscriptions, but that's about it. The intricacy and doo-dads usually go on the engagement ring.

I'm really surprised that no one else has picked the story up. The hate for WND in the right blogosphere is really out of control. This is a shame because Joseph Farah, being a Christian arab, has long been one of the main sources of good information about the islamic arab world and what happens there with respect to Christian arabs - and just how much of a serious threat the islamic world is to everyone. WND is a good site. Just because they do some very Christian and Biblical stuff every so often too many conservative bloggers have tried to shun them. And the fact that WND did real investigations of Barky's past and eligibility issue really turned off most of the "conservative" blogosphere. They just wouldn't stand for any of that talk ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:34 PM (X3lox)

149 Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:29 PM (QTHTd)

I find it hard to believe that Putin and the ex-KGB fraternity care about Syrian Christians. Russia is a Communist country (not a "Christian" one) controlled by kleptocrats trained by the finest hearts and minds of the KGB.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at October 10, 2012 07:34 PM (Cnqmv)

150 Ion Pacepa is the guy's name. He's a Romanian.

Posted by: gail at October 10, 2012 07:34 PM (f46PC)

151

What's wrong with the rest of the world. I hit the Reset Button on many occasions and they still call me a bitch.

Posted by: Sir Edmund Hillary Rodham Clinton at October 10, 2012 07:34 PM (lDWQr)

152 111? Relax, it is all going to come out, and sooner rather than later. everyone on the left is starting to turn on obama and as it gains speed it is all going to leak. his records, his religion, his family, his boyfriends, everything is coming. you only need popcorn or chips.

Posted by: yankeefifth


It's a Tsunami... catch the wave.

Posted by: backhoe at October 10, 2012 07:35 PM (ULH4o)

153 141
You are ranting how evil Russia is. They are supporting Assad because he is fighting the Muslim Brotherhood. What is your answer, give Syria over to the Muslim Brotherhood?

Come on answer me genius.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:35 PM (6Lik1)

154 144 Yes,in fact the USSR and their allies created muslim terrorism.Kind of delicious that the Russians will now be hoisted on their own petard via their large muslim minority.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:35 PM (6o4Fb)

155 Neither did Cuba in the '60s. OR Vietnam in the 70s. Or Angola. Or any number of shitty little countries the communists wanted to use to fuck with us.

Still, the weapons always showed up.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:28 PM (TMB3S)

well, yeah, but this is not the cold war. effing around with syria is not as much a problem as effing around with the places you mentioned was mor problematic. effing around with syria is more effiing obama than anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (Z9EHQ)

156
As mentioned earlier, US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border, looking for cross-border movement of chemical weapons stocks.

Yeah ... LOL on that. The weapons would go to Lebanon, not Jordan - not even through Jordan. I don't know who thinks they could sell this story that Syria would be offloading their weapons (and/or WMD) to or through Jordan. That's just outright silliness. Par for the course for this treasonous junta, though.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:15 PM (X3lox)


There was a story about a large terrorist bomb found in Amman Jordan before it blew in 2004(?). The bomb contained nerve gases supposedly from Iraqi stocks smuggled into Syria and then Jordan.
So Jordan does have a right to be concerned. Just like the folks in Benghazi had a right to be concerned.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (zLp5I)

157 149
You don't know what you are talking about. Putin has restored the Russian Orthodox Church to prominence in Russian society. He is a Nationalist who admires the Czars, not a Communist.

It's 2012 not 1972.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (6Lik1)

158 155 The cold war is alive and well in Putin's mind.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (6o4Fb)

159 To? From? It's all the same to Ace.

In Soviet Russia, preposition misuses you.

Posted by: fluffov Smirnov at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (O6q63)

160 They are supporting Assad because he is fighting the Muslim Brotherhood.
What is your answer, give Syria over to the Muslim Brotherhood?


Nah, you pass the popcorn.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 07:37 PM (lyStv)

161 124....I don't want to be tricked. But I want to know if Obama's freaking wedding ring has "There is no god but Allah" inscribed on it.
That's important to know.



It's in keeping with the other clues....that have been around for years.
Like...
Him reciting the Shahada to a NYTimes reporter, in 2007..."with a perfect Arabic accent".
[Barky is good with accents.]

That was when he also said that the sound of the call to morning prayers, is "the prettiest sound in the world".
Or some such.

So, yes...it's important to know, if we've got a closet muslim in the White House, at a time when so many muslims want to destroy us.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 07:37 PM (l5RhJ)

162 Is there a made for TV Jihadi version of Big Bird with bandoliers strapped across his breasts?

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 07:37 PM (vm7ot)

163 As things turn progressively shittier for obama and his buddies, events are spinning out of control. I'd store alot of water and ammunition and condoms

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:37 PM (j1gX1)

164 I guess cocksucker missed Obama letting the Moslem Brotherhood take over Egypt. Bad in Syria; good in Egypt, dick breath?

Posted by: andycanuck at October 10, 2012 07:38 PM (vDl/w)

165 154
The US also funded Islamic terrorists. Do not act like we are clean. I find it disturbing that your hatred of Russians blinds you to evil of the Islamic agenda.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:38 PM (6Lik1)

166 Great tweet from teh Fred:

fredthompson: Obama staff blaming Kerry for inadequate debate prep. Guys, don't blame the jockey if your Shetland pony can't win the Kentucky Derby. #tcot

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 07:38 PM (i0vBR)

167 >>I find it hard to believe that Putin and the ex-KGB fraternity care about Syrian Christians. Russia is a Communist country (not a "Christian" one) controlled by kleptocrats trained by the finest hearts and minds of the KGB.

Exactly. The only reason the Muslim Brotherhood is rising in the middle east is because the dipshit in the WH fucked up the Arab spring. Instead of stepping in and supporting more moderate groups in places like Egypt, Libya and Syria, Obama sat back and let the MB take over.

Something was always going to come after the dictators who ruled the Arab countries. Bush, for all his problems, was at least smart enough to understand that it was essential to use our power and influence to the degree possible in places like Iraq.

Mr. Lead From Behind is tossing it all to the crazies. Smart fucking power.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:39 PM (TMB3S)

168 153

Let's stay civil and debate this rationally.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:39 PM (boomF)

169 #153. Why do we have to entertain either idea? And if you think the Russians, with Chechnya on their rear, gives a rat about defeating the Brotherhood, you are dangerously naive. Assad is Bathist, just like his dad Saddam.

Posted by: traumakitty at October 10, 2012 07:40 PM (c/Glr)

170 Big Bird with bandoliers strapped across his breasts

Oooh, cosplay! That is HOT!

Posted by: Roman Polanski at October 10, 2012 07:40 PM (lyStv)

171 I don't consider the Afghan Mujahadeen to be terrorists.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:40 PM (6o4Fb)

172 167
The Arab Spring was planned an executed by the Muslim Brotherhood. There were no moderate elements. Get with reality and stop believing that fanatsies.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:40 PM (6Lik1)

173 I watched the BlazeCast. The reporter Billy Hallowell said he talked to professors at Duke and Harvard who confirmed the inscription does appear to be the arabic inscription "There is no god but Allah".

The BlazeCast guys were mainly saying this isn't an important story and will just make the right look kooky (ie like WND). And saying its most likely just an Indonesian trinket he was given that has sentimental value.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:40 PM (ZPrif)

174 My friends, we have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency supporting genocidal 7th century inbreds.

Posted by: John McVain at October 10, 2012 07:41 PM (VrVBw)

175 I find it hard to believe that Putin and the ex-KGB fraternity care about Syrian Christians.

Putin has (for better and worse) done a lot to expand the Orthodox Church in Russia. The Pussy Riot prosecution was a part of that.

And Russia seems to be taking a role as the guarantor of Orthodoxy abroad. They did the same agitations amongst the Armenians in the 1800s. They are also big on supporting the Serbs.

So, yes, Putin cares. Even if cynically "he is their leader and must follow".

I repeat my first comment on this thread: I'm not on any of the sides here (although I prefer protecting Christians and especially non-Sunni-rule in places like Syria, over MoBro rule). I do NOT want the US or other European nations to get entangled in this mess.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:41 PM (QTHTd)

176 Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (6Lik1)


Perhaps, but I find it hard to believe that anyone could rise to positions of real power within the KGB as Putin did while being a devout Russian Orthodox Christian and an ultra-Nationalist Czarist! Smart leopards can change their spots, but not their hearts.

Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at October 10, 2012 07:41 PM (Cnqmv)

177 161

But that's politically incorrect!?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:41 PM (boomF)

178 Listen, I can sit here all day and give you at least sixty or seventy scenarios from where it might originate. Iran, Russia, definitely France. India is a possibility because they have sleeper cells in all the 7-11s, and the Koreans with all their toxic dry cleaning chemicals. I wouldn't be surprised if Spain or Portugal started thinking, hey, ese, let's do a driveby and recolonize the New World.

Posted by: Choo Choo Biden at October 10, 2012 07:41 PM (i0vBR)

179 171
They were terrorists. What was Abdullah Azzam and Osama Bin Laden doing in Afghanistan?

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:41 PM (6Lik1)

180 Hey this is all fine and dandy, but how does any of this help my Yankees tonight?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:42 PM (j1gX1)

181 Anybody think at least some of our troops on the ground are there to support a possible Israeli air raid returning from Iran?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 07:42 PM (oihrP)

182
"So, yes...it's important to know, if we've got a closet muslim in the White House..."

It's also important to know whether he is Shia or Sunni.

I see a lot of evidence that he is Shia.

Posted by: Meremortal, spreading the wealth at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (1Y+hH)

183
"What was Abdullah Azzam and Osama Bin Laden doing in Afghanistan?"

They showed after we did.

Posted by: The USSR at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (VrVBw)

184 Well, it's a balance of payments (Romney's eyes widen as he's ready to pounce) or was it balance of power...Martha! Help me out here

Posted by: Barack Obama as Augustus at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (4eNxd)

185 176
People change their ideologies all the time. I am no fan of Putin, but he is enemies with the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafists. That is America's #1 enemy.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (6Lik1)

186 Anybody think at least some of our troops on the ground are there to support a possible Israeli air raid returning from Iran?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 07:42 PM (oihrP)


The ones in Jordan? Nah

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (j1gX1)

187 Putin would love to capture Istanbul for the warm water port, rename it back to Constantinople, and restore the Hagia Sophia to the Vatican of Orthodoxy. It's been a dream of the Czars since the city fell to the Turks.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (KCvsd)

188 159
To? From? It's all the same to Ace.


In Soviet Russia, preposition misuses you.

Posted by: fluffov Smirnov at October 10, 2012 07:36 PM (O6q63)


ace is just practicing Being A Dick. He told us so.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (X/+QT)

189 So, yes...it's important to know, if we've got a closet muslim in the White House..."

It's also important to know whether he is Shia or Sunni.

I see a lot of evidence that he is Shia.
Posted by: Meremortal, spreading the wealth at October 10, 2012

not quite. we have a muslim, who is also in the closet, in the white house.

fify

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

190 I don't like us being in Jordan. My feeling is Barry would love to have the non despot king in Jordon be toppled and another islamic theocracy started.

Barry has been giving Assad a pass for whatever reason and while he might be ready to throw him under the bus if he thinks a theocratic group would replace him, Assad has been a reliable enemy to the U.S. Jordan more like a friend and we know how that has worked out the last 3.8 years --Mubarak, etc.

My hope there would be that we have enough honorable officers that they would not cooperate with an overthrow in Jordan now when the civvies are on the verge of throwing out that JEF of a CinC.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 10, 2012 07:44 PM (dkExz)

191 183
Azzam and Bin Laden were in Afghanistan since the mid 80's. Try again.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:44 PM (6Lik1)

192 Just perused the comments. Anyone want to share my popcorn whilst I watch the fun?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 07:44 PM (Gk3SS)

193
Anybody think at least some of our troops on the ground are there to support a possible Israeli air raid returning from Iran?

____ _ _____ ____ ____ ______ ___ ____ ____ ___ _ ___ __ _ _ _

That's the kind of talk that can lead to late night discussions over brandy and cigars.

Posted by: Meremortal, behind the bar at October 10, 2012 07:45 PM (1Y+hH)

194 We were there as well, Hector the complete fucking idiot.

Posted by: The USSR at October 10, 2012 07:45 PM (VrVBw)

195 Yes,in fact the USSR and their allies created muslim terrorism.Kind of delicious that the Russians will now be hoisted on their own petard via their large muslim minority.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:35 PM (6o4Fb)


Actually, it was the Nazi who were big on fomenting jihad with the Grand Mufti showing the way. The Soviets were the biggest supporters and bankrollers of ARAB terror, but not islamic terror. That was back in the days of the pan-arabists controlling the arab world. Lots of them were marxist douches and they were almost all Soviet stooges. Moscow was behind most of the terror in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, but that wasn't islamic terror, it was arab terror. Iran and Saudi Arabia were the main supporters of islamic terror - from Shia and Sunni sides, with some cross-pollinating as was helpful at the time - which eventually took over for the old pan-arab secular terror.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 07:45 PM (X3lox)

196 187
You just nailed what Putin's end game is. He wants to fulfill the dreams of the Czars. To understand Putin's Russia, people need to read up on Czarist Russia. Thinking this is the Soviet Union is the wrong template. They are neither a friend nor an enemy. They have their own agenda.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:46 PM (6Lik1)

197 192 Just perused the comments. Anyone want to share my popcorn whilst I watch the fun?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 07:44 PM (Gk3SS)


Well, okay, but I'm here for you and the popcorn, I've seen the movie before.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:46 PM (bxiXv)

198 Anybody think at least some of our troops on the ground are there to support a possible Israeli air raid returning from Iran?

____ _ _____ ____ ____ ______ ___ ____ ____ ___ _ ___ __ _ _ _

That's the kind of talk that can lead to late night discussions over brandy and cigars.
Posted by: Meremortal, behind the bar at October 10, 2012 07:45 PM (1Y+hH)

heh, the iranians hope they leave. everyone is gion to be really surprised when they wake up and everyone is serving bagels and lox for breakfast.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

199 My hope there would be that we have enough honorable officers that they would not cooperate with an overthrow in Jordan now when the civvies are on the verge of throwing out that JEF of a CinC.
Posted by: PaleRider at October 10, 2012 07:44 PM (dkExz)


Forget us for a second, Jordan is majority palestinian and that shrimp king is living on borrowed times.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:47 PM (j1gX1)

200 195 Yes but to me Arab terror is the same in the end.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:47 PM (6o4Fb)

201 Anyone have a crust recipe for a satrapie?

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (vbh31)

202 Great. This Hector cockhole has the same annoying habit as the last dicksnuggler troll.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (oihrP)

203 Doesn't all the war gaming say that Israeli jets can't make the round trip to Iran and back without refueling? So they must either have a plan that includes Arab countries, USAF mid-air refueling, or what? One way missions?

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (N/1Dm)

204 Well, okay, but I'm here for you and the popcorn, I've seen the movie before.


Yeah, but I have a feeling that the unified field theory of inanity may finally be proven.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (Gk3SS)

205 >>Azzam and Bin Laden were in Afghanistan since the mid 80's. Try again.

Actually, you're wrong. They arrived after the Soviets attacked Afghanistan and it was al Qaeda who killed Massoud, the leader of the Northern Alliance and our ally, right before 9/11. Azzam spent most of his time in Pakistan where he died, likely at the hands of Zawahiri.

The commies don't have any allies. They have short term partners they use.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (TMB3S)

206 The Soviets invaded Afghanistan in 1979 and were there before that.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (6o4Fb)

207 201 Anyone have a crust recipe for a satrapie?
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (vbh31)


I just buy frozen.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (bxiXv)

208 200

I don't like to disagree with you.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (boomF)

209 @195
Another sane comment not blinded by Russophobia! We need more Conservative like you are understand what is going on.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (6Lik1)

210 What event will we remember as the spark that set off WWIII?

Beck claims WWIII was set in motion and the Archduke Ferdinand moment was when thatstreet vendor set himself on fire in Tunisia. Baraqa thought this little fruit vendor was all that and a bag of chips, BTW.

http://nyti.ms/QX3Ft6

Posted by: RushBabe at October 10, 2012 07:49 PM (tQHzJ)

211 Doesn't all the war gaming say that Israeli jets can't make the round trip to Iran and back without refueling? So they must either have a plan that includes Arab countries, USAF mid-air refueling, or what? One way missions?
Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (N/1Dm)


They have their own refueling capabilities

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:49 PM (j1gX1)

212 Why are people calling Hector a troll?

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:49 PM (QTHTd)

213 Yeah, but I have a feeling that the unified field theory of inanity may finally be proven.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 07:48 PM (Gk3SS)


I think that's like Poincare Conjecture, it's been solved, but people keep trying.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:50 PM (bxiXv)

214 We're all Russophobes!!!!!

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 07:50 PM (/YJYi)

215 Great, a fucking russophile troll who wants to gargle the Czar's balls.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 07:50 PM (qZXps)

216 I'm still trying to figure out how many camels I can fit thru the eye of a needle. Hey, it's a big needle!

Posted by: Joey Plugs pullin' out the chops at October 10, 2012 07:50 PM (vm7ot)

217 Hmmmm ... seems like Lifemanship could use some better comprehension.

Posted by: Gerry at October 10, 2012 07:50 PM (GlXr0)

218 Ok, sure - yet another example of Obama's extreme incompetence when it comes to foreign policy.

But I have it on good authority that Romney once told his wife that a dress didn't make her look fat when it actually did - I'm stunned the guy isn't in jail or at the very least hasn't been deported. Sheesh.

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 07:50 PM (f/0ub)

219 @12, 81. I think you're right.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/99wer6k
(Maybe I was too polite when I refrained from commenting in all caps.)

Posted by: Thorvald at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (1V6Pv)

220 Plane was coming FROM Russia, so none of the WMD in Syria were involved.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (wR+pz)

221 Turkey is a NATO member, on the verge of a shooting war with an aggressor on its border.

If they asked, Obama could unilaterally take us to war in Syria without consulting Congress at all.

It may be October but I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Posted by: TooCon at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (V4YIE)

222 212 Because he is.He may not seem too troll like here,his argument has some merit but he is a troll.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (6o4Fb)

223 209

Look, I don't necessarily disagree with you, but don't use stupid terms like teh political -ophobias.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (boomF)

224 #203, I imagine that, being Israelis, they'd manage to do buddy tanks.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (qZXps)

225 My guess as to why Obama supports the MB:

Obama believes they are 'enlightened' Muslims, educated in socialist progressive values.

In short, the Muslim Brotherhood is Obama's father's dream society.

Dreams of my father = Muslim Brotherhood

A society that is Muslim and progressive and anti-Western and anti-capitalist. A Muslim version of Hugo Chavez and Brazil's Lulu, if you will.

What could go wrong.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (JSfNz)

226 They have their own refueling capabilities

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:49 PM (j1gX1)
-
Crafty.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (N/1Dm)

227 205
I said Bin laden and Azzam were in Afghanistan since the mid 80's. Where the hell did I said they were there before the Soviets?

Massoud led one faction of the Mujaheddin. Many of the other factions ended up becoming the Taliban since they were Islamists.

You really have a soft spot for Muslims I see.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (CX71c)

228 Plane was coming FROM Russia, so none of the WMD in Syria were involved.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM (wR+pz)

What confuses me ( granted I get confused easy) is that since Turkey is at the moment not a close friend of Syria, why would they route any planes with arms on it thru Turkey? Are they stupid or something?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (j1gX1)

229 36
WTH happened to Turkey? They're acting normal.


Money talks, nobody walks.

Posted by: Hillabeast at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (wR+pz)

230 I'm happy to team with the Russians to crush the jihadis. For now. If Russians become the bigger threat again then I'll be happy to team with the jihadis to crush the Russians.

We teamed with the commies to beat the nazis.
Then, we teams with the jihadis to beat the commies.
Now we team with everybody to beat the jihadis.

Use every weapon available to defeat the biggest threat. Worry about blowback later.

The Nazis and the Soviet Union don't have to worry about blowback today -- because they don't exist.

Blowback is a wonderful worry to have. It means you survived the last war.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (ZPrif)

231 Share your popcorn and watch the fun?
Well, I've got a couple hundred mils of single barrel Bourbon and a nice Merlot I've been saving for a special occasion. Does either go with popcorn?

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (JCIjD)

232 Turkey is a NATO member, on the verge of a shooting war with an aggressor on its border.

Silly goose. It's the Obama administration. Even if Turkey did invoke NATO it wouldn't mean squat to them. After all, this was all caused because they got offended over a video. No terrorism to see here! Nope, not at all. Move along.. move along..

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (f/0ub)

233 If the overwhelming sentiment here was pro-Russian, this Hector (of Manchear?) bozo would be just as righteously denouncing y'all.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (qZXps)

234 >>>
Plane was coming FROM Russia, so none of the WMD in Syria were involved.

Maybe they needed a staging area to assemble weapons for the rebels before deployment?

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (vm7ot)

235 150 Ion Pacepa is the guy's name. He's a Romanian.

Posted by: gail at October 10, 2012 07:34 PM (f46PC)

--Thanks! I knew he rang a bell. He has been a treasure trove of info on the KGB.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (V/U0X)

236 @203 Our Fearless Leader outed the fact that one of the small 'istans' north of Iran has a military airbase with a pile of Israeli supplies and support troops.

This -alone- would have me incandescent.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (5a/pJ)

237 @214
Many here are Russian haters. I wish they understood our real enemy is the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic organizations. They are blind by cold war nostalgia.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:53 PM (CX71c)

238 181 Didn't Rice say we would shoot the planes down if they went through our air space?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 07:54 PM (i0vBR)

239 Actually, Russian is supporting Assad because the Orthodox church is worried about it's churches and the Christians there.

It is not easy to figure out.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 07:54 PM (wR+pz)

240 232

Obama's just a little incompetent, that's all...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (boomF)

241 I think we need to start posting a Troll List, since they're getting all tricksy and not acting Trollish all the time. Yes, Hector is a Troll.

OT but PA just ruled that the Libertarian candidates can stay on the ballot. For some reason the PA Repubs were fighting this? They're silly! I'm telling you, Johnson is only going to pull Obama voters.

I've been spending my time - wasting my time - trying to get "libertarians" to vote for Romney here in PA. They twist themselves into knots just to get to "voting for Obama." If they have Johnson as a choice? they will go for that. GOOD. I think it's the best we can hope for (or maybe I'm suck at changing people's minds, could be that too)

Posted by: BlackOrchid-StillMissingDagny at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (J6kXj)

242 And Hector's not a russophile. Read #196 again. He said that Putin and his Russia are aggressive, authoritarian and territorial.

The question I have (I don't know if it's Hector's question) is whether all of this should bear on our decision to fight in Syria.

I think it doesn't. I don't much care if Russia kicks the arses of Turkey and the MoBros. Russia doesn't have enough excess population to go for a campaign of world conquest.

Compare with Arab Sunni Islam. They do have the population excess and they do have an ideology of conquest.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (QTHTd)

243 233
I am not Pro-Russian, I am anti-Islamist. That maybe too difficult for you to grasp.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (CX71c)

244 russians are sloppy, starving, stupid and they do maintenance with sledgehammers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (Z9EHQ)

245 Many here are Russian haters. I wish they understood
our real enemy is the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic
organizations. They are blind by cold war nostalgia.Posted by: Hector


You assume a lot, twathead. Jog on.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (bCaR9)

246 181 Anybody think at least some of our troops on the ground are there to support a possible Israeli air raid returning from Iran?
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 07:42 PM (oihrP)



That would require this admin to support Israel, so, no.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (GEICT)

247 Didn't Rice say we would shoot the planes down if they went through our air space?
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 07:54 PM (i0vBR)

I doubt it. Now she probably believes that, but that is another story.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:55 PM (j1gX1)

248 Nationalist, or whatever that goosestepping crypto National Socialist was calling himself?

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 07:56 PM (qZXps)

249 OT D.M. Hawkins @HawkinsUSA
Average turnout for Nevada is +0. If reps pull that off, Romney is taking enough Dems (16%!) to win the state easily...

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 07:56 PM (ck76k)

250 Putin is our enemy. He's just #5 or #6 at the moment. I want to convert Russia to become a normal western society. But I don't think it'll happen.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:56 PM (ZPrif)

251 237

Look, there's a good reason for that. Now, start making some rational arguments again or STFU.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 07:56 PM (boomF)

252
a line from The Godfather was Clemenza repeating Vito's premonition about stopping Hitler in Munich in '33.

here's me saying we shoulda stopped the Muslim Brohood in '09.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (9fkPX)

253 contrary to what obama and his moron minions believe, the commies - russian and chinese, hve thousands of nukes aimed at us. filthy muslim terrorists, pakistianis aside, have none.

Posted by: yankeefifth at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (Z9EHQ)

254 242
Correct, Czarist Russia was not a friend of the West. They were a rival, but not an enemy. Putin has the same ideology. He is a Russian Imperialist.

There will be areas we can work with Russia and others like Eastern Europe where we will be opposed to them. It is not black and white like people here are making it seem.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (CX71c)

255 Sadly, they actually believe this.

Via MEMRI:

Following are excerpts from an interview with Hamas MP Marwan Abu Ras, member of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on September 12, 2012.

Marwan Abu Ras: The Jews are behind each and every catastrophe on the face of the Earth. This is not open to debate. This is not a temporal thing, but goes back to days of yore. They concocted so many conspiracies and betrayed rulers and nations so many times that the people harbor hatred towards them.

Throughout history – from Nebuchadnezzar until modern times… They slayed the prophets, and so on.

Any catastrophe on the face of this Earth – the Jews must be behind it.

Hey I got a great idea, let's give them a State!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (j1gX1)

256 Well, Obama apologists are always reluctant to call it the "Video War", but that was the propaganda the Islamic Supremecists repeatedly emphasized during the long years of conflict.

Posted by: Future Historians at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (wUFaM)

257 Man, I hate to admit it, but that fucker Pavlov was on to something.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (bxiXv)

258 Don't forget, kids...he may be known to us as TFG, but to the rest of the world he's TFPP: The Foreign Policy President™.

Posted by: jakeman at October 10, 2012 07:58 PM (96M6e)

259 @195 et passim... Can you say "Mahdi Army"? I think you can.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/8o8hk7y (Churchill's book)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2hnj6 ("Khartoum" (1966))

Posted by: Thorvald at October 10, 2012 07:58 PM (1V6Pv)

260 Hector really reminds me of that Warren Bonestel twat who used to pontificate here, except it took Warren about three times as many words to expound on his "me-big-brain-you-stoopid" meme du jure.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 07:58 PM (qZXps)

261 60 @9
I believe the actual inscription is something along the lines of "One ring to rule them all."


I say Obama is sauron , is that a racist remark ?

Posted by: grumpy momma bear at October 10, 2012 07:59 PM (hBHhF)

262 Troll list. Please include Greg. When he gets the butt plug out of his ass he will post again about the unemployment numbers.


So any of the horde up for a meet up? I tested negative last week, so I am OK.



Posted by: Greg's mom at October 10, 2012 07:59 PM (wR+pz)

263 I'd rather team up with the Ruskies to tackle the Jihadis and keep China in check that continue to play allies to most of useless Euroweenies. As long as we don't sell out Eastern Europe to the Russians, who cares if Putin reasserts Czarist aspirations?

If we work with the Indians and Koreans the South Pacific and Indian Ocean could be kept in the fold as well.

The biggest mistake Russia made in the 20th century was allowing itself to go communist and waste a century at war with the US instead of taking advantage of possible partnerships. Remember the US BORDERS Russia. We should be competitive allies, not enemies.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 07:59 PM (KCvsd)

264 251
Yes because many of you are old and stuck in the Cold War. Islam is the thread of the 21st Century, wake up!

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:59 PM (CX71c)

265 They are blind by cold war nostalgia.

Lord knows I am. Ah, those heady days of childhood - digging bomb shelters, hiding under your desk at school, fearing the red menace and threat of global nuclear war.

Sniff.. ok, tearing up here. Back in a couple.

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 07:59 PM (f/0ub)

266
Putin would love to capture Istanbul for the warm water port, rename it back to Constantinople, and restore the Hagia Sophia to the Vatican of Orthodoxy. It's been a dream of the Czars since the city fell to the Turks.Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 07:43 PM (KCvsd)


Putin would love to do whatever it took to bring Russia back to its glory years. I thinkhe thinks that is the only way to stop the slide of Russia. Where everyone is drunk, drugged, and not having any children. If they do not stop their demographic slide, there will be no Russia in 80 years.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (zLp5I)

267
This from the link, is from the widow of one of the Seals killed in Benghazi:
And, the quote Romney should put on his bathroom mirror for inspiration:
“One of the last things my husband said to me before he was killed, when I would ask him, ‘Chris, what do you need over there? What can I send you?’ he said, ‘I need a new president,’” Horton recalled.
http://tinyurl.com/8vkfadk

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (jx2j9)

268 Hey I got here late and since the Yankee game is on I am not going back to read the whole thread to see why everyone is so mad at Hector, but it seems to me that some of what he says is rather accurate.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (j1gX1)

269 263
I agree with you! I am glad to have another rational commentator here.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (CX71c)

270 OK..... so just where the hell is my VIDEO Card??? F'n dam Turkeys....

Posted by: Syrian IT Guy at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (lZBBB)

271 263 I agree it is in Russia's interests to be our ally but they simply don't want to be.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (6o4Fb)

272 Hey AtC, I have a cheesy jalepeno topping for popcorn. Shake it on and poof, instant spicy goodness. So, can I get in on that popcorn?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:01 PM (GEICT)

273 264

Settle down.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:02 PM (boomF)

274 These Ottomans need to get over this whole spat, and just make some new furniture together.

Posted by: C. Montgomery Burns at October 10, 2012 08:02 PM (3HsdR)

275 I agree it is in Russia's interests to be our ally but they simply don't want to be.
Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:00 PM (6o4Fb)

Must be the Vodka.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:02 PM (j1gX1)

276 Well, I've got a couple hundred mils of single barrel Bourbon and a nice
Merlot I've been saving for a special occasion. Does either go with
popcorn?



Everything goes with popcorn.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:02 PM (Gk3SS)

277 Yes but to me Arab terror is the same in the end.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 07:47 PM (6o4Fb)


But there are serious differences. They are not the same people and they don't run on the same agendas, even though each is as violent and stupid as the other. They have different benefactors and different influences.

As the pan-islamic wave started to take over the arab world we saw reactions from pan-arabists, like arafat, with the creation of Fatah's Al Aqsa martyrs Brigade - to be their "islamic" arm in competition with hamas - and the martyrs brigade gave hamas a run for their money.

As bad as the retarded pan-arabists were (and they were bad enough that we should have laid waste to a bunch of places back in the 70s and retaken the gulf oil fields to have nipped all this insanity in the bud), the pan-islamists are far worse. Russia is not the benefactor of the pan-islamist terror groups, though it has been involved with Iran and others for using as tools against the West.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 08:02 PM (X3lox)

278 266

This.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:02 PM (boomF)

279 Hey I got a great idea, let's give them a State!

Agreed! I propose Atlantis.

Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (O6q63)

280 I'm so nostalgic about the Cold War. It was always so comforting knowing am adventurous kleptocracy with nuclear weapons and delusions of world dominance was constantly trying to destroy Western Democracy.

That was some crazy fun shiznit yo.

Come on, tell us some more jokes, numbnuts.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (qZXps)

281 Isn't Hector the one who was on here Gergging, minus the polls, a couple weeks ago?

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (/YJYi)

282 268
I have a few weeks history with some people here. I pointed out 2 weeks ago that the reason Romney was behind because he was not running ads. Since then, they hated me and called me a troll. Romney is now running a good campaign and I am glad he is taking the fight to Obama.

But I am a troll according to some here.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (TVbdM)

283 269

Settle down.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (boomF)

284 John Nolte
@NolteNC
32%? Slow down there. Don't want to pull something. ! MT @fivethirtyeight Romney gaining Up to 32% chance of Electoral College win.

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (ck76k)

285 Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 07:57 PM (CX71c)

Yep, the Russians are at least a SANE enemy.... Islam? not so much...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2012 08:03 PM (lZBBB)

286 DING!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 08:04 PM (bxiXv)

287 Hector, I agree with some of what you're saying -- but you're being a total fucking douche. Stop insulting everybody. Stop the stupid "finally a rational person who agrees with me".

Maybe if you were less of a dick people wouldn't reflexively hate you.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 08:04 PM (ZPrif)

288 I agree it is in Russia's interests to be our ally but they simply don't want to be.

No, not really. They can pretty much kibosh anything we do to try to deal with the horrible little dictatorships they make mega-bucks selling all their military tech too, and they have no incentive to stop. They know that as long as they vote anything down in the UN nothing else will ever get done. It never does.

They know full well our current administration will bend over backwards to accommodate them no matter what they do, so why bother being "allies" if you don't really need to be? Guess you can't blame them for having their cake and eating it too.

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:04 PM (f/0ub)

289 #271, that's the problem. Since the communists took over Russia, and in the post-Communist period, the leadership has not realized that it is their best interests to work with the US to further their interests than be antagonists.

The Russian leadership is playing the role of France from the 1960s forward. Thinking that by being a third power at the table they will get ahead, when instead such actions only place them further behind. Putin should realize that he is replaying DeGualle's mistakes.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:04 PM (KCvsd)

290 Isn't Hector the one who was on here Gergging, minus the polls, a couple weeks ago?

YEP

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:04 PM (ck76k)

291 Doesn't all the war gaming say that Israeli jets can't make the round
trip to Iran and back without refueling? So they must either have a plan
that includes Arab countries, USAF mid-air refueling, or what?


There was quite a bit of talk a year ago or more that the Saudis had agreed to look the other way while the Israelis used airbases in the empty western part of the country to stage attacks on Iran. Politically it makes some sense (the Saudis fear Iran as much as Israel does) and geographically the area between Bahrain and Kuwait would probably work just fine.

However, these reports were from sources like DEBKA so reliability is questionable.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 08:04 PM (QKKT0)

292 who cares if Putin reasserts Czarist aspirations?

<looks around nervously>

Posted by: Ukraine and the Baltic States at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (lyStv)

293 226 They have their own refueling capabilities

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 07:49 PM (j1gX1)
-
Crafty.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (N/1Dm)

--Recall also that some asshole in the Administration leaked that Israel had secret agreements with Azerbaijan to use some of their airfields to attack Iran. It was a great idea until 0bama's band of merry shitheads told the world.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (V/U0X)

294 281
I was pointing out at the time Romney was not running an effective campaign. It got people upset. Now he is running a good campaign and I have not criticized him recently. I am glad he is fighting Obama. I still think Romeny needs more ads.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (TVbdM)

295 Russia has more organizational potential.

Jihadis don't have that--they will always be a house divided.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (r2PLg)

296 Suffolk University Pollster: #Obama Can't Win North Carolina, Virginia and Florida huff.to/T6mNDN #ows #tcot #anonymous #tlot

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (ck76k)

297 OT IBD tracking poll Romney 49 Obama 45 per drudge

Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (Xfofp)

298 Hey, SOS, fire any fuckwits lately?

Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (BAnPT)

299 289
I agree totally with your sentiments.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (TVbdM)

300 Use every weapon available to defeat the biggest threat. Worry about blowback later.

The Nazis and the Soviet Union don't have to worry about blowback today -- because they don't exist.

Blowback is a wonderful worry to have. It means you survived the last war.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (ZPrif)

--Sounds like a long game of Risk!

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (V/U0X)

301 Recall also that some asshole in the Administration leaked that Israel had secret agreements with Azerbaijan to use some of their airfields to attack Iran. It was a great idea until 0bama's band of merry shitheads told the world.
Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (V/U0X)

By the way from everything I have read, they are still there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (j1gX1)

302 I am not going back to read the whole thread to see why everyone is so
mad at Hector, but it seems to me that some of what he says is rather
accurate.


Some of it is that Hector has been talking down to the people arguing with him - "Come on answer me genius." directly, "another rational commentator" indirectly.

So he does need to work on that.

But the people calling him a troll are going overboard in the other direction. And few are calling them, on that.

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (QTHTd)

303 291

It makes sense theologically too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:07 PM (boomF)

304 297
The tide is turning hopefully. The funny part about that poll, it has a +8 Democratic sample and Romney is head by 5!

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:07 PM (TVbdM)

305 Rick Wilson @TheRickWilson
James Pethokoukis: 'That September Jobs Report was Weirder Than You Know' on Ricochet.com shar.es/5IooZ

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (ck76k)

306 Romney needs to run more ads. Right, I remember this bozo now.

He's doing so well now because of all his ads. The Debates got nothing to do with it, natch.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (qZXps)

307 302
Yes I admit I got a bit hostile. But they have been calling me a troll for a few weeks now.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (TVbdM)

308 --Sounds like a long game of Risk!


Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (V/U0X)


/turns in 2 sets of cards.....

Posted by: Romney, day after inauguration at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (lZBBB)

309 Have I mentioned that I am not fond of the MFM,
generally speaking? Because it occurs to me sometimes that maybe I don't
say it enough.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 06:58 PM (bxiXv)
You can be like Cato the Elder and add "...and also the Media Delenda Est" to the end of every post.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (z1N6a)

310 Ace, his name is Ion Pacepa, Romanian.

Posted by: Greg Toombs at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (KN6fI)

311
Merovign, as much as you think ignoring these assholes is the way to go, I have to disagree.

• Ace will not take the necessary steps to prevent / punish their constant thread-jacking

• This new strain of Asperger's twat troll does not care if it is ignored - they just keep shitting pixels

• Look at Hot Air. Fuck that.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (JDIKC)

312 Also Russia like Islam needs the US scapegoat--that doesn't evaporate.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (r2PLg)

313 @285 Netanyahu made that point at the U.N. Russia herself has significant Muslim populations, as well as many Muslim neighbors. They may calculate that cousin marriage, honor killings, lack of pork in their diets, and counter-reproductive sexual mores in some areas may take care of their "Muslim Problem". That leaves them able to concentrate more on Europe and us.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/8gkcbvj

Posted by: Thorvald at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (1V6Pv)

314 306
Romney demolished Obama at the debates. It was a classic and I enjoyed every minute of it. But criticism was valid. Romney was and still is not running many ads.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:09 PM (TVbdM)

315 Hey, SOS, fire any fuckwits lately?

Nope, not a one. Had to have a chat with a couple of folks here and there but once we got a few misconceptions cleared up things have been running pretty smoothly. Well, at least better than I thought they would be by this stage.. lol

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:09 PM (f/0ub)

316 307

Have you ever heard of a little religion called Christianity? It will help you deal.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:09 PM (boomF)

317 I was pointing out at the time Romney was not running an effective campaign.


You see, he knew he was gonna do this debate thing and when 67 million people saw the difference between him and Obama they'd listen to his commercials. Plus, he let his family take over the campaign and sent the beltway crowd out for doughnuts.

Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 08:09 PM (BAnPT)

318 #302, sorry to break up the Kodak Moment, but this guy's a troll.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:09 PM (qZXps)

319 Also,I refuse to give Russia free hand to enslave the Baltic states.If that is what is required to gain them as an ally than they stay an enemy.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:10 PM (6o4Fb)

320 Some of it is that Hector has been talking down to the people arguing with him - "Come on answer me genius." directly, "another rational commentator" indirectly.

So he does need to work on that.

But the people calling him a troll are going overboard in the other direction. And few are calling them, on that.
Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (QTHTd)

Yeah after having been here for a while now, you really can't go around insulting people. Besides the fact that it is not nice, your enemy on one thread might be your friend on another, and we all need all the Allies you can get. And since I have gone to and will continue to go to some moron meet-ups, ya really don't want to get punched in the face. It's much better if someone buys you a drink or 2

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:10 PM (j1gX1)

321 Like China needs Japan if you get that.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:10 PM (r2PLg)

322 Maybe if you were less of a dick people wouldn't reflexively hate you.

Explain further please.

Posted by: Catpiss Troll at October 10, 2012 08:10 PM (QKKT0)

323 311

It's not your place to punish others. Settle down. (And no, I don't want to have a long discussion about it.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (boomF)

324 @301 By the way from everything I have read, they are still there.

Yes, but they aren't -secret- anymore.

Israel can't suppress the whole freaking country. They -can- probably get in, hit something and get out.

But instead of the response being "WTFBBQ? Where did they even come from?" It will be "Ok, hit Azerbaijan."

Making the whole mission a suicide mission.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (5a/pJ)

325 It is hard at times to distinguish a genuine troll from an Aspie prick.

Aspie pricks are good at thread-jacking since they are devoid of normal human emotions. Being not fully human, they are immune to normal social cues and pressures.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (ZPrif)

326
I see a future with the USA standing shoulder to shoulder with one billion Chinese and Israelis and Indians fighting the rest of the world.



Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (KeJAW)

327 319 Also,I refuse to give Russia free hand to enslave the Baltic states.If that is what is required to gain them as an ally than they stay an enemy.
Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:10 PM (6o4Fb)

_____________________

Not to mention amoral.

What's the shorthand--

Neville Chamberlain like.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (r2PLg)

328 This new strain of Asperger's twat troll does not care if it is ignored - they just keep shitting pixels

Amen to that. That's the intent.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (vbh31)

329 Remember people occasionally call me a troll too, for standing up for functional urbanism and bicycles as transit in dense cities too, despite posting here, and advocating in local politics, for years in support of almost every conservative cause under the sun. Some people are a little too reflexive when it comes to throwing that label out there.

Thankfully the horde is generally well mannered, open to criticism, and not going down the cult like road as LGF did.

The vetting, fretting, and ultimate reconciliation of Mittens as our candidate kind of showed the full spectrum of thought here. Less the appropriate application of boobies, stompy boots, lace wigs, pudding, Brian Dennehey, the chicken, CONTENT, value-rite, and the other memes we hold so dear.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (KCvsd)

330 At the risk of offending the Orthodox amongst the Moron Horde, the more I think about it, the more I believe that the failure to convert Russia to Catholicism in the 1000s was one of the bigger missed opportunities in history.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (lyStv)

331 295
The Byzantines and Sassanian Persians thought the same about the early Jihadis. Where are those 2 nations now?

Look at a map, Turkey, Egypt, Mali, Libya, Tunisia, part of Yemen and soon Syria have fallen to Islamists. These nations have resources and will soon set the stage for the Caliphate.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (CX71c)

332 The reason people were calling Hector a troll and have been calling him that for the past couple weeks is because he came here acting like Gerg without all the poll numbers.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (/YJYi)

333 325

Aktion T-4. Not as cool as you think.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (boomF)

334 I see a future with the USA standing shoulder to shoulder with one billion Chinese


I think you mean half a billion.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (Gk3SS)

335 MUMR ,we either punish trolls or they take over.That's his point.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (6o4Fb)

336 That "Greek guy" you're thinking of is Ion Pacepa, former Romanian Securitate who defected to the West before Ceaucescu fell.

Posted by: Furious at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (+D5xe)

337 Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (KeJAW)

As long as the grass grows... and the wind blows.... oh... wait...

Posted by: Little Big Man at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (lZBBB)

338 330
What is your problem with Orthodoxy? Did you know Catholicism comes from Orthodoxy?

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (CX71c)

339

The voice crying in the wilderness, I have for years advocated here at AOS that we not use troll too loosely. I defer as always to the collective wisdom of the horde, but we need to make sure that the person is deliberately provocative and mendacious before calling them a troll. It helps if they are irredeemably leftist as well, but not required.

Is hector really a troll or just an annoying contrarian?

Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (UaxA0)

340 Have you ever heard of a little religion called Christianity?

Is that the new cult for followers of Chris Christie?

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (f/0ub)

341 But instead of the response being "WTFBBQ? Where did they even come from?" It will be "Ok, hit Azerbaijan."

Making the whole mission a suicide mission.
Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (5a/pJ)


Well that's not really true. The base there, if it is there, is just a logistical and refueling area. And could be evacuated as soon as the mission is completed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (j1gX1)

342 >>But I am a troll according to some here.

For good reason.

Russia has been vetoing the US and other western powers for years at the UN whenever we tried to take action against dictators or other ethinic cleansers.

They did it in Yugoslavia in 1999. That left NATO and Bill friggin Clinton of all people to go in and stop the ethnic cleansing.

They did it in Iraq for years preventing an effective sanctions model and ultimately leading us to war. They provided weapons through Iran to Iraq.

They did it in Libya dragging out that conflict longer than it need it to

They are doing it in Iran as we speak and are enabling Iran to sell some oil and have some currency coming in.

And they are doing it in Syria.

Russia hates Islamic terrorists as much as we do but they will also do whatever they can to fuck us up. Everyone here understands that Islamic terrorists are a danger to us but going back decades there has always been some tool the Russians have used to fuck with us without being directly involved. Whether it was Cuba or Vietnam or terrorists in Central American one thing has always been constant, Russia at the controls.

With age comes wisdom, junior. You might try learning it. In the meantime, get your shine box.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (TMB3S)

343
323

If I wanted your opinion, I'd write your opinion on my dick and stab your opinion into your skull, fruitcake.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (JDIKC)

344 But the people calling him a troll are going overboard in the other direction. And few are calling them, on that.Posted by: boulder hobo

Oh, BS. We're not compelled to put up with every damaged Asperger victim that stumbles on this site.

You know how he can avoid being called a troll?

Don't fucking act like one.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (bCaR9)

345 We send troops to Jordan because they cannot be sent to Detroit without Congressional authorization. Sort of.

Posted by: redgrains at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (ePnYH)

346 335

You don't punish. You defeat. It's different.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (boomF)

347 332
No it is because I was speaking the truth and people here were in a bubble.

FYI- Greg is Gumbey and Pokey from Hot Air.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:14 PM (CX71c)

348 330 At the risk of offending the Orthodox amongst the Moron Horde, the more I think about it, the more I believe that the failure to convert Russia to Catholicism in the 1000s was one of the bigger missed opportunities in history.
Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (lyStv)

______________

Hence--Croatia v Serbia...the Balkans.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (r2PLg)

349 I see a future with the USA standing shoulder to
shoulder with one billion Chinese and Israelis and Indians fighting the
rest of the world.









Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:11 PM (KeJAW)


WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, DIPSHIT!!!!

(Sorry man, just trying to get myself in tune with the thread This is fun to watch.


Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (GRvW4)

350
By the way from everything I have read, they are still there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:06 PM (j1gX1)

--Really? I guess it remains a good idea even without the element of surprise.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (V/U0X)

351 #327, I'd say the one area the US absolutely should not give Russia free reign is Eastern Europe. Poland and the Baltic states are one part of Europe which is consistently pro-US and non economic welfare state basket cases.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (KCvsd)

352 My albino obese African-American conservative friend told me at a party that he thinks he remembers this Hector guy from several years ago when they were working on a big hostile merger deal and there was a furby convention.

Posted by: praying for peaces at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (qZXps)

353

OTOH, I very much value Balrog's opinion, and EOJ's too, so my inclination is to believe the dude's a troll.


Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (UaxA0)

354 Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (lyStv)

Yeah... because gettin the Russians involved in who got to be Pope is such a GREAT idea....

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (lZBBB)

355 Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (GRvW4)


*passes the popcorn* Booze is over there.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (Gk3SS)

356 340

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (boomF)

357
Damascus, the oldest continuously inhabited city, will be no more.

So, who's gonna make this thang happen? Israel? Turkey? USA? Combinations?


Posted by: Oracle Dude at October 10, 2012 07:25 PM (BVkEs)







Syria.

Either by Assad committing nationwide WMD suicide when the rebels are at the palace gates, or more likely, a WMD/traffic accident oopsie while transporting via convoy through downtown.

Posted by: In before the troll at October 10, 2012 08:15 PM (TIIx5)

358 . I defer as always to the collective wisdom of the horde, but we need to make sure that the person is deliberately provocative and mendacious before calling them a troll. It helps if they are irredeemably leftist as well, but not required.

The collective wisdom of the horde? Ok, well that sounds a lot like the 1000 monkey's at a typewriter eventually pounding out Shakespeare but sure.. I'll roll with it.. lol

Extra bonus points for use of the word mendacious though.. damn..

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:16 PM (f/0ub)

359 Exactly. The only reason the Muslim Brotherhood is rising in the middle east is because the dipshit in the WH fucked up the Arab spring. Instead of stepping in and supporting more moderate groups in places like Egypt, Libya and Syria, Obama sat back and let the MB take over.

Obozo was in on the planning of the Arab Spring and the Mo Bro Hood resurrecting the Caliphate-- which was dreamed up years ago by George "I have a god complex" Soros and the Fabian Socialists years ago. Samantha Power (Mrs. Cass Sunstein), was put in charge of the project at the WH.

Did you know Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn were in Egypt months before "the Spring" to teach the agitators? Beck has film of Tubby Dickie Trumka IN EGYPT, pre-Tahrir Square,also in rabble-rousing capacity ("workers of the world unite"). IIRC, the "Arab Spring" was on the drawing board at least seven years before it actually happened. Afterall, the motto of the Fabian Socialists is "heating up the world to mold it to our heart's desire."

The progs are nothing if notpatient.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 10, 2012 08:16 PM (tQHzJ)

360 The truth according to Gerg, Hector.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 08:16 PM (/YJYi)

361 • Look at Hot Air. Fuck that.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (JDIKC)


Dude, this place is Hot Air four or five years ago, okay maybe with better cobs.

Now, the fucking trolls *OWN* HA, and it's practically the only thing they talk about. About all they have left is a raft of regular trolls and a bunch of jumpy, scared rabbit commenters reflexively blasting everyone else as trolls, Just In Case.

It's pathetic, and yes, I happen to think it's because everyone gives in to Troll Flu two seconds after a troll shows up looking for validation instead of just taking their damned Airborne (Very Berry please) and enjoying the placebo goodness.

Trolls fap when you talk to them. Deny them the pleasure.

Or don't, seriously, it's not like you have to listen to me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 08:16 PM (bxiXv)

362 /turns in 2 sets of cards.....

Posted by: Romney, day after inauguration at October 10, 2012 08:08 PM (lZBBB)

--I hope one of them is the India card.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:17 PM (V/U0X)

363 343

I don't remember asking if you wanted my opinion.



Now, make some effort to repress your homosexuality.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:17 PM (boomF)

364 342
You really are ignorant. Russia opposed us in the Balkans because they didn't want Islamic states there. Did you know Al-Qaeda and other groups were active in Yugoslavia?

Do some research and get back to me.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:17 PM (+IAze)

365 I don't remember the man's name and haven't read through all the posts but there was a story floating that the Russians had plans, as one would expect, to evacuate and clean up their chemical stockpiles from collapsing nations, like before Iraq 2003.

I remember there being rumors of LANDSAT images taken of Russian AN-12 cargo aircraft at several airports; also the more famous convoys headed toward Syria.

Obviously, I'm just repeating what I remember.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at October 10, 2012 08:17 PM (jhI6f)

366 344

Aktion T-4. For or against?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:17 PM (boomF)

367 351 Of course,and that is precisely what they want as a price for their "friendship".

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (6o4Fb)

368 @329 Boston? wtf? You're just there for work, right, and not a Masshole?
I got yer "Functional Urbanism" right here! The only reason to live in a city like Boston is to get a disease, or become a crime victim. Period.

Posted by: Thorvald at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (1V6Pv)

369 Don't worry, after the election, I'll have more flexibility to institute sharia law.

Posted by: Barky McFucknut at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (BVkEs)

370 Thanks AtC ... mmmmm. Single malt. Nice.


Proceed, kids.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (GRvW4)

371 If I wanted your opinion, I'd write your opinion on my dick and stab your opinion into your skull, fruitcake.

Wow.. really hoping you never want my opinion, or at least if you feel you do you'll warn me first so I can make a run for it.. lol

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (f/0ub)

372 I think you mean half a billion.

That was Brian Dennehy's best line in the movie.

Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (O6q63)

373

Looking back, Hector certainly seems to be acting like an annoying douchebag, and so would seem to deserve what he gets.

I must be honest, though, the idea that we somehow have an alliance to forge with Russia is pipe-dream foolishness to me.

That could color my opinion

Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:18 PM (UaxA0)

374 I read Ayn Rand once.

That makes me smart.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:19 PM (Xxw9w)

375 I think you mean half a billion.

Okay, Professor Math Whiz

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:19 PM (+oin+)

376 Well that's not really true. The base there, if it is there, is just a
logistical and refueling area. And could be evacuated as soon as the
mission is completed.


Iran has plenty of surface-to-surface missiles that should be in the air before the planes have even left their airspace. Meaning the base can be hit -before- the mission in completed. And, at the very least, meaning there won't be Israeli planes launching for a second, third, or fourth sortie.

I'm not arguing "useless", just saying TFG did serious damage to the entire concept.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (5a/pJ)

377 317
I am glad Romney turned it around. We need to get rid of Obama.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (+IAze)

378 #364, Actually Hector the Russians historically viewed themselves as guardians of the Orthodox Serbians and didn't want foreign power interfering in what they considered a local matter.

Of course Russia's and the Orthodox Church's tacit condoning of the slaughter which occurred was undeniably amoral.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (KCvsd)

379
Fuck -- lots of people like to troll here.

NavyCopJoe is notorious for it.

You just gotta be smart. Buzzion catches me 99.44% of the times I do it.

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (tOkJB)

380 Y'all are drinking single malt? Wasted on this thread.


*cracks open can of Busch Light*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (GEICT)

381 Hector what nationality are you?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (r2PLg)

382 Hector: Do some research and get back to me.

Social cues: totally whiffed...

Posted by: boulder hobo at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (QTHTd)

383 Yeah... because gettin the Russians involved in who got to be Pope is such a GREAT idea....

Well, not now, and I certainly don't have anything against the Orthodox Church, but it would have brought Russia closer to Western Civilization had the place been successfully converted.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (lyStv)

384 Arrrgh, sock fail.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 10, 2012 08:21 PM (TIIx5)

385 just saying TFG did serious damage to the entire concept.
Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 08:20 PM (5a/pJ)


That's what traitors do

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:21 PM (j1gX1)

386 373
Supporting the Muslim Brother is madness. But go ahead and supporting the new Caliphate.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:21 PM (+IAze)

387 A nice single malt is only wasted if you spill it.

And to quote a Moron: "That's a good fuckin batch."

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:22 PM (GRvW4)

388 >>>It is hard at times to distinguish a genuine troll from an Aspie prick.

"Troll" is so old school. How about Renaissance dick? Or Lifeman practitioner?

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 08:22 PM (vm7ot)

389 Exactly.

I will pretend that is directed to my wisdom.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:22 PM (KeJAW)

390 381
I am American.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:22 PM (+IAze)

391 386

Make some effort to control your emotions, will you?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:22 PM (boomF)

392 The important thing is that once we destroy Islam, we can turn to ridding the world of the Orthodox cult. The Great Schism was a terrible thing. Obviously the Russian Orthodox church is simply a heretical cult. History won't miss it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 08:22 PM (ZPrif)

393 I am also a scholar of Middle Eastern culture and politics, but I only do that part-time.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:23 PM (Xxw9w)

394 HECTOR!!!!!!

Posted by: Achiles, rides his chariot beneath the walls of Troy at October 10, 2012 08:23 PM (lZBBB)

395
The voice crying in the wilderness, I have for years advocated here at AOS that we not use troll too loosely. I defer as always to the collective wisdom of the horde, but we need to make sure that the person is deliberately provocative and mendacious before calling them a troll. It helps if they are irredeemably leftist as well, but not required.

Is hector really a troll or just an annoying contrarian?

Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:13 PM (UaxA0)

How about we call the semi trolls Gnomes?
If they really excel, we can move them into Troll status.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 08:23 PM (zLp5I)

396 378
I don't have pity for dead Muslims.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:23 PM (+IAze)

397 330 At the risk of offending the Orthodox amongst the Moron Horde, the more I think about it, the more I believe that the failure to convert Russia to Catholicism in the 1000s was one of the bigger missed opportunities in history.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:12 PM (lyStv)

--I also read a while back that there was a string of Nestorian Christian communities extending almost all the way to Mongolia in Marco Polo's time. The Franciscans wanted to send their friars there to bring those Christians back into the fold, but it never happened. Both Islam and the Rooskies could have been outflanked.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:24 PM (V/U0X)

398 392

I'm not sure that that's how ecumenism works.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:24 PM (boomF)

399 >>Did you know Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn were in Egypt months before "the Spring" to teach the agitators?

Yep. And before that Bush was pouring millions into a State Dept. program, primarily in Egypt, to try and cultivate more moderate parties to take over after Mubarak died.

Its not like cultivating dictators was winning us any friends or they were going to last forever. Obama has been working on just the opposite program.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 08:24 PM (TMB3S)

400 I get that your American, but sometimes people analyze things from a certain perspective--I am wondering what yours is.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:24 PM (r2PLg)

401 I thought Rome and the Eastern church had gone quite aways towards conciliation(though not unification).

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (6o4Fb)

402 394
Achilles, do you have to follow me everywhere? Come on, Troy was 4,000 years ago!

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (+IAze)

403 396

Muslims are humans too, in case you forgot...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (boomF)

404 Is it true that the inside of a vagina feels like sand paper?

Posted by: Sad Aspie at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (ZPrif)

405 OK. I got the butt plug out.

So did I mention that the unemployment number are down and they are going to kill Mitt?

Oh, I did. Well, just wait!

Posted by: Greg at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (wR+pz)

406 Blowhards who just bust in the front door and lecture us about how stupid or misguided we are deserve every bit of pummeling they receive.

It's one thing when someone who has been around awhile gives someone crap, but a noob pounding his her chest? Moron, please.

This ain't the Algonquin Round Table.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (qZXps)

407 Yankees suck and deserve to loose. They are making every Oriole Pitcher look like Cy Young. Oops forget that Martin just got a hit..Go Yankees!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (j1gX1)

408 You know what I love most about navycopjoe?

He's like Beetlejuice.

All you need to do is mention the failing Bears and joe will magically appear.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:26 PM (xIzGn)

409
Is it true that the inside of a vagina feels like sand paper?

Posted by: Sad Aspie at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (ZPrif)


Why, yes. Yes it does. I recommend you avoid it at all costs.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:26 PM (GRvW4)

410 #368, love the city hate our political machine. The business and institutional interests pulling strings are what make the place work. Otherwise the political class would have robbed us blind to pay off the deadbeats and burned the place down to the level of Detroit by now.

Cambridge is mercifully running out of Granola and the institutions/bio/tech companies are getting to the point of knocking a lot of shit off in local government.

Boston is slowly moving that way too. The unions and welfare pimps that refuse to reform or get out of the way of prosperity are getting shown the bus undercarriage. Kind of fun to watch long term Dems eat their own because they realize more economic activity means more money and more interesting stuff than small time petty rubble ruling fiefdoms built with welfare votes.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:26 PM (KCvsd)

411 we can turn to ridding the world of the Orthodox cult

Um. No, just no. Just let the churches do their work and, in the mean time, marry a Greek chick.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:26 PM (lyStv)

412 404

What do you hear about Aktion T-4?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (boomF)

413 408 Or Sarah Palin's tittehs.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (6o4Fb)

414 403
396



Muslims are humans too, in case you forgot...



Yes they are, but there is only one way to get to heaven.

Accept Christ. I guess they will be down there with Ted.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (wR+pz)

415 I am wondering what yours is. Posted by: tasker

I'm pretty sure his perspective is that of KING FUCK OF SHIT-MOUNTAIN.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (bCaR9)

416 405

Oh fuck off...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (boomF)

417 400
I partly of East European origins.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (TVbdM)

418 This ain't the Algonquin Round Table.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:25 PM (qZXps)


It is now that I'm here. 1/32 Algonquin, at least.

Posted by: Fauxcahontas at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (X3lox)

419 But what about Romney's gaaafe from several months ago, wherein he jumped the gun and declared Russia our number one geopolitical adversary.

Posted by: MFM at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (vjyZP)

420 Stupid ashole americans interfering in middle east affairs BUTT OUT!! fatass!

Posted by: Bilal at October 10, 2012 08:28 PM (+Axc5)

421 OT but have you seen the "One Is Too Many" PSA from thewhitehouse.gov? How the hell is it legal for them to be running PSAs featuring Obama and Biden during the election. Saw it 3 times today.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/1is2many

Seems to me to be a advert for reelection to me which I thought was wrong.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 10, 2012 08:28 PM (GeJs5)

422
393I am also a scholar of Middle Eastern culture and politics, but I only do that part-time.<<<<<<

Part time scholar.

Beautiful.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:28 PM (JDIKC)

423 And by "churches", I meant ecumenical councils.

Posted by: Armando at October 10, 2012 08:28 PM (lyStv)

424 405
You are Gumby and Pokey from Hot Air? Be honest because you both write the same garbage.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:29 PM (TVbdM)

425 Damn I said Obama 45 and it's 44 ... 49-44

Posted by: Honey Badger @robfit at October 10, 2012 08:29 PM (RM1gx)

426 414

Well, I don't necessarily disagree with that...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:29 PM (boomF)

427 Yes they are, but there is only one way to get to heaven.

Please tell me it involves finger banging Peggy Noonan.

Posted by: wooga, finger banging Peggy Noonan at October 10, 2012 08:29 PM (vjyZP)

428 It's one thing when someone who has been around awhile gives someone crap, but a noob pounding his her chest? Moron, please.

Cool! So since I've been her for a while I get to step up on a soap box and scream about how foolish and misguided the horde is! Outstanding!

Ok.. hmm.. ya, nope. I got nothing. Nevermind.

Lol

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:29 PM (f/0ub)

429 417 400
I partly of East European origins.
Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:27 PM (TVbdM)

_________________

Okay....I bet not Croat and not Slovenian--right?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:29 PM (r2PLg)

430 #411, the Greek Orthodox Church doesn't get along with the Russian Orthodox Church. It's a big snob thing over whom is the 'truer' Orthodox Church. Part of the reasons why the Russians want Hagia Sophia is to settle that pissing contest with the Greeks/wannabe-Byzantines.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (KCvsd)

431 @393 http://preview.tinyurl.com/lsaxrg

Posted by: Thorvald at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (1V6Pv)

432 One time, my unmarried court-appointed psychologist smiled at me. But I'm confused. Does this mean she wants me to finger-bang her in her sandy vagina -- or that she wants to give me a hand-job?

Women are confusing cause they have vaginas. Right guys?

Posted by: Sad Aspie at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (ZPrif)

433 Yes they are, but there is only one way to get to heaven.

I really hope that isn't Amtrak. Otherwise I'm going to feel really, really silly.

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (f/0ub)

434 414
I don't care about them. They hate me, I hate them back. Their religion is fake and their so called prophet was a child rapist.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (TVbdM)

435 The man wasn't Greek at all!

-

WMD conjecture / Alleged Russian involvement - Wikipedia
http://tinyurl.com/9f5q7ov

Romanian intelligence defector Ion Mihai Pacepa alleged that an operation for the removal of chemical weapons was prepared by the Soviet Union for Libya, and that he was told over thirty years ago by Romanian President Nicolae Ceauşescu, KGB chairman Yury Andropov, and later, Yevgeny Primakov, about the existence of a similar plan for Iraq. It is "perfectly obvious", wrote Pacepa, that the Russian GRU agency helped Saddam Hussein to destroy, hide, or transfer his chemical weapons prior to the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. "After all, Russia helped Saddam get his hands on them in the first place."

Posted by: gastorgrab at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (FX38i)

436
Did you know Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn were in Egypt months before "the Spring" to teach the agitators?

Yep. And before that Bush was pouring millions into a State Dept. program, primarily in Egypt, to try and cultivate more moderate parties to take over after Mubarak died.

Its not like cultivating dictators was winning us any friends or they were going to last forever. Obama has been working on just the opposite program.Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 08:24 PM (TMB3S)



In 2030 they will be talking about Obama's failures and the Arab Spring just like they talk about Jimmy Carter and Iran. And in 2040, Egypt will be acting a lot like Iran has since 1979.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (zLp5I)

437 I would love for muslims to rejoin humanity,to do that they must reject the cult they belong too.Reject it or modify it beyond recognition.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (6o4Fb)

438 I don't even know which side I'm on here. It's like watching the Jets play Tampa.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (GRvW4)

439 404
Is it true that the inside of a vagina feels like sand paper?


I heard it has teeth.

Posted by: Andy "Power Glutes" Sullivan at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (vjyZP)

440 There is too much CW shit floating around in the Middle East. This is all going to end in tears.

Fuck me.

Posted by: Jack at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (wUFaM)

441 432

You still haven't answered the question. What have you heard about Aktion T-4?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (boomF)

442 Well Jeter tripled to drive in the tying run. Too bad he is supporting obama, oh well

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (j1gX1)

443 @416

Er, come on now it's a sock.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (wR+pz)

444 Wow. I tuned into Arrow just in time for the shirtless working out. I approve of this show (even avec longbow).

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (Gk3SS)

445 I saw the rings pictures on bare naked islam this morning my best friend is from palestine and read the blown up pictures of the ring. she says it says no God but allah. she says its common knowledge that he is muslim in palestine.

Posted by: believer at October 10, 2012 08:32 PM (4IKUP)

446 My father is Russian Orthodox.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:32 PM (6o4Fb)

447 434

Well, then I suggest you shoot up a mosque...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:32 PM (boomF)

448
What a train wreck. Love AoS, but the blog comments have become unreadable at times with the latest influx of douchebagery.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (vbh31)

449 429,
Nope not Croat nor Slovene.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (+IAze)

450 Still say "Jihadist" is a better term to coalesce behind for The Long War.

1) Yes, I recognize daunting task.
2) No, not sugar coating anything.
3) self-identifying
4) It's one less handle for the Useful Idiots and active collaborators.

We're nearly twenty years into this. The discussion -still- wastes half of every single TV segment over the caveats "No, it isn't every single muslim ... No, not a racist, etc."

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (5a/pJ)

451 Gross!!

Ben Affleck and Bill OReilly!

*hurl*

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (r2PLg)

452 Wow. I tuned into Arrow just in time for the shirtless working out. I approve of this show (even avec longbow).


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (Gk3SS)

Was it chicks working out? If so, be specific in your description. If not ... nevermind.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (GRvW4)

453 437

Reject it is probably the way to go.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (boomF)

454 In islam if your father is muslim you are a muslim.Like it or not.So yes,Obama is a muslim as far as they are concerned.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (6o4Fb)

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (r2PLg)

456 I don't care about them. They hate me, I hate them back. Their religion is fake and their so called prophet was a child rapist.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:30 PM (TVbdM)


islam isn't a religion. It's a political ideology. Best to always make that important distinction.

And Aisha was asking for it. mo made her wait three years ... till she matured into a full-grown pre-pubescent.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (X3lox)

457 >>It is "perfectly obvious", wrote Pacepa, that the Russian GRU agency helped Saddam Hussein to destroy, hide, or transfer his chemical weapons prior to the American invasion of Iraq in 2003. "After all, Russia helped Saddam get his hands on them in the first place."

What? The Russians were involved with Hussein's WMD program and also in Libya?

Preposterous. They are our friends!

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (TMB3S)

458 Log on, whinge once, shit out the dumb
To let us know you made it on your own
Don't want nothing to be wrong with part-time scholar

Oooohh ooooohh Part Time scholar~

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (bCaR9)

459 Their religion is fake and their so called prophet was a child rapist.

Of all Mo's faults, the child rape is only like the fifth or sixth worse. After all, like Roman Polanski, you can rape a child and still win numerous film awards and the undying adoration of many Frenchmen.

Posted by: wooga at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (vjyZP)

460 447
Yes so I can go to jail and create sympathies for Child Rapist cult. Did you know Mohamed was a child rapist?

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (+IAze)

461 443

Either way...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (boomF)

462 449 429,
Nope not Croat nor Slovene.
Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:33 PM (+IAze)

__________________

I would have bet the house on that btw.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (r2PLg)

463 Oooohhhh they're turning on each other.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 08:34 PM (/YJYi)

464
Polls! We need more polls Ace!
Christ...

Posted by: The guy that can't get enough of the polls at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (HZCkA)

465 459
In Mo's case he started a new religion.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (+IAze)

466 @448

WTF Too much to keep up with? Which I agree, but don't dis the horde.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (wR+pz)

467 448

I agree.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (boomF)

468 444 The new Green Arrow show started already?(Oliver Queen was always portrayed as a left winger btw)

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (6o4Fb)

469 My main gig is fry cook, but I'm a scholar part-time as well.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (JDIKC)

470 Green Arrow is a gulfstream liberal. In the comics he's a staunch advocate for Socialism and overall leftist prick.

Fuck Green Arrow.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (ZPrif)

471 462
Never bet the house!

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (+IAze)

472 O'Reilly just jumped the Affleck.

Fool.

Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (BVkEs)

473 re Hector naming HA's pokey and gumbey as our Greg --

I've seen that linkage before and p-n-g was recently banned there.

I actually don't mind a troll like Greg; he's pretty straightforward in his trolling, doesn't post the same shit over and over, and will engage to an extent.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (ccXZP)

474 So listen, I'm rarely up for the ONT. Is this kinda what it's like?

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (GRvW4)

475 Oh gawd--no Affleck is going to pontificate on his feign policy--

"knowledge"

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:36 PM (r2PLg)

476 437 I would love for muslims to rejoin humanity,to do that they must reject the cult they belong too.Reject it or modify it beyond recognition.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:31 PM (6o4Fb)

Even if they convert, I'm still screwed.

Posted by: The Goat at October 10, 2012 08:36 PM (V/U0X)

477 Oh, so it's a Serbian revanchist. See, I was right: He does want to gargle the Czar's balls.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (qZXps)

478 445
Palestine, where is that? I can not find that on a map.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (+IAze)

479 474 So listen, I'm rarely up for the ONT. Is this kinda what it's like?

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (GRvW4)


Only near elections.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (bxiXv)

480 471 462
Never bet the house!
Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (+IAze)

____________

Ya--I might have bought insurance....

_______________

472 O'Reilly just jumped the Affleck.

Fool.
Posted by: Craig Poe at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (BVkEs)

LOL! Gawd he's making my typing go to pot..

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (r2PLg)

481 Is this kinda what it's like?Posted by: eastvalleyphx

No, not at all. ONT is much more fun and less infested with stoopid.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (bCaR9)

482 What a train wreck

Fuckin A

Posted by: Timothy Leary, Engineer at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (O6q63)

483 460

No. I've never heard that before.



You really are an intellectual heavyweight.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:37 PM (boomF)

484 Oh gawd--no Affleck is going to pontificate on his feign policy--

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 08:36 PM (r2PLg)


Heh. I like that.

Well done.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 08:38 PM (X3lox)

485 463

Keep jacking off.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:38 PM (boomF)

486 I actually don't mind a troll like Greg; he's pretty straightforward in his trolling, doesn't post the same shit over and over, and will engage to an extent.

I mind the inability to learn, and the total failure to man up when he's proven wrong. But, yeah, other than that he's OK.

And by "OK" I mean drooling fucktard.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:38 PM (s0WlJ)

487 473
It was Gumbey and Pockey who led me here. He linked to some thread from here over at Hot Air a few weeks ago and I saw a Greg here who was writing the same thing. I have been spying on that clown.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:39 PM (+IAze)

488 but don't dis the horde

WTF? That was not my intent. Note in my comment I said "latest wave". Tell me you don't see what I'm talking about here in this thread?

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 08:39 PM (vbh31)

489 You really are an intellectual heavyweight.

He read Ayn Rand once


Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (s0WlJ)

490 OK you want to fuck with someone? Copy the post and paste it. Don't just be lazy and post the number.

Horde members are lazy too, we need it easy.

Newbys, post whatever you are replying to. We don't need to be searching for WTF you are talking about.

That clear enough.

Have a nice day. Greg is still a dick.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (wR+pz)

491 477
You suck the balls of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda.

Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (+IAze)

492 Was it chicks working out? If so, be specific in your description. If not ... nevermind.


No, Stephen Amell.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (Gk3SS)

493 Speaking of Affleck, when is that douche bag going to team up with Damon to make another infomercial for the ME?

Somehow I expect ARGO to turn into a backhanded compliment for the Iranians given the current nature of Hollywood.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (KCvsd)

494 486 >> And by "OK" I mean drooling fucktard.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:38 PM (s0WlJ)

That was a given. By definition, all trolls are Average Joe and suck cock by choice.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 08:41 PM (ccXZP)

495 474 So listen, I'm rarely up for the ONT. Is this kinda what it's like?
Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (GRvW4)



Hell no. ONT is a lot of fun and entertaining. Morons gone wild. Lol.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:41 PM (GEICT)

496 485 463

Keep jacking off.
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:38 PM (boomF)



You've got it backwards. I'm not the one incapable of social interactions.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 08:41 PM (/YJYi)

497 489

"Read" her. "Banged" her.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:41 PM (boomF)

498

How about we call the semi trolls Gnomes?


Beautiful.


And Soap, the really best thing to do with the trolls is simply ignore them. But we have to do so as a community. THe next time one of the fucktards comes in, it needs be met with silence.

AOS has gotten bigger, it's one of the only sites w/o registration, and it's all of us morons' job making it fun for everyone. We can't really shut down an onslaught, but we can't just give in and let it become HA either.

Though I will say that HA is a function of its leadership in Doughboy Ed as much as anything else.


Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 08:41 PM (UaxA0)

499 You suck the balls of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda.


Posted by: Hector at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (+IAze)


"All you motherfuckers are gonna pay, You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers
while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who are making
that movie, we're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit,
then eat their shit which is made up of our shit
that we made 'em eat. Then you're all fucking next."

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:42 PM (GRvW4)

500 496

Actually, it seems you are.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:42 PM (boomF)

501 I like Greg, if only because he's sort of a contra-indicator of how things are actually going for us.

He's like the bizarro-world version of Winston Smith: A creme pie in the face, over and over, forever.

And he volunteers for this.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:42 PM (qZXps)

502 Fuck Green Arrow.


Yeah. Because I'm watching for the plot.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:42 PM (Gk3SS)

503
So what happened to the chicken?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 10, 2012 08:43 PM (tpi5T)

504 And he volunteers for this.


Our nation would be in big trouble without volunteers

Posted by: Beto at October 10, 2012 08:43 PM (BAnPT)

505 This very smart military blog might have content if it weren't for the distraction postulated by the comment section. Wait....what?

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:44 PM (KCvsd)

506 474 So listen, I'm rarely up for the ONT. Is this kinda what it's like? Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:35 PM (GRvW4) Hell no. ONT is a lot of fun and entertaining. Morons gone wild. Lol.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:41 PM (GEICT)

Most of the trolls parents make them go to bed

Posted by: The Jackhole at October 10, 2012 08:44 PM (DU15A)

507 501 I like Greg, if only because he's sort of a contra-indicator of how things are actually going for us

Excellent point. And very true.

Greg!!!! Come back!! I want to taste the ambrosia of your lib tears!!!

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:44 PM (s0WlJ)

508 ARGOs are a blast.

http://tinyurl.com/8dcfwra

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 10, 2012 08:44 PM (GeJs5)

509 OK you want to fuck with someone? Copy the post and paste it. Don't just be lazy and post the number.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 08:40 PM (wR+pz)


Yeah. This has to be the most annoying bit of lifesmanship on threads, these days. It is really ridiculous and shows that some people don't have the least bit of respect or decency. I partly blame Pixy for taking the links away, thereby stopping linked numbers, but given that, it's fucking obnoxious that people just post numbers (especially when they're half a thread up) as if anyone is going to flip back to read what the fuck they are addressing. I just ignore people who do that constantly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 08:45 PM (X3lox)

510 >>AOS has gotten bigger, it's one of the only sites w/o registration, and it's all of us morons' job making it fun for everyone. We can't really shut down an onslaught, but we can't just give in and let it become HA either.

This site has been around a hell of a lot longer than Hot Air and has had trolls equally as long. They disappear after a while, after everyone has had their fun taunting them.

This place will never be Hot Air because it was never like Hot Air. Ace runs a different place. And besides, the trolls don't last all that long. They ultimately get tired of being abused and trot along.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 08:45 PM (TMB3S)

511 So what happened to the chicken?

What do you think?

Posted by: The Chicken at October 10, 2012 08:45 PM (lyStv)

512 509

For Marx's sake...

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:46 PM (boomF)

513 502 Yeah. Because I'm watching for the plot.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:42 PM (Gk3SS)



I'm confused. Why else would you watch a show?


And my offer of jalepeno cheese topping for the popcorn still stands. Although it may take me awhile to hobble over there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:46 PM (GEICT)

514 So what happened to the chicken?
What do you think?
Posted by: The Chicken at October 10, 2012 08:45 PM


Shit got real, huh?

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:46 PM (s0WlJ)

515 "I see a future with the USA standing shoulder to shoulder with one billion Chinese and Israelis and Indians fighting the rest of the world. "Not going to happen.

Posted by: harleycowboy at October 10, 2012 08:47 PM (BGVHF)

516

AoS commenters are like casts of SNL

The original group was the best. Right now we're in the Billy Crystal years.

I'm like the Garret Morris of the cast.



Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:47 PM (Si5xx)

517 In all seriousness, there have been very good part-time scholars, but I'm not gonna insult Eric Hoffer's good name by comparing Hector to him.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:47 PM (V/U0X)

518 I'm seriously pissed at DC comics right now over the muslim Green Lantern(not just that he is a muslim,of course he was an innocent persecuted after 9/11).

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:48 PM (6o4Fb)

519 Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:47 PM (Si5xx)

I await your AoSHQ themed Chico Escuela skit.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:48 PM (s0WlJ)

520 [i[As mentioned earlier, US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border, looking for cross-border movement of chemical weapons stocks.

Posted by: Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Kookiefornicationa at October 10, 2012 08:49 PM (Qr3hQ)

521 60: Is Obama Saruman or Sauron? He's more like the weak, ineffective ruler ofGondor, old what's his name.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 10, 2012 08:49 PM (tpi5T)

522 517

I'm not sure Eric Hoffer was really "part-time."


I'll have to look it up.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:49 PM (boomF)

523 So what happened to the chicken?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 10, 2012 08:43 PM (tpi5T)

Obama campaign has booked me for the next two days, followed by Joe Biden.

Posted by: That Chicken at October 10, 2012 08:49 PM (V/U0X)

524
62Turkey has long had issues with Syria--water rights.

Damn the Euphrates, full speed ahead!

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (tpi5T)

525
post fail.

As mentioned earlier, US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border, looking for cross-border movement of chemical weapons stocks.





Past over again.......

Posted by: Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Kookiefornicationa at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (Qr3hQ)

526 518

Marvel was always better. But they've probably jumped the shark too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (boomF)

527 "s fucking obnoxious that people just post numbers (especially when they're half a thread up) as if anyone is going to flip back to read what the fuck they are addressing. I just ignore people who do that constantly."

CTRL+F #,

Then use page down to swiftly return to the bottom of the thread.

Otherwise it's a slog to figure out what the heck is going on here half the time.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (KCvsd)

528 Oh goody,more Catholic bashing.(Some WB shit called Asylum)

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (6o4Fb)

529

AoS hav bin berry berry goot to me

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (DlaLh)

530 Anything good going on?

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (I2LwF)

531 AoS commenters are like casts of SNL



The original group was the best. Right now we're in the Billy Crystal years.



I'm like the Garret Morris of the cast.









Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 08:47 PM (Si5xx)


Since I'm relatively new, that would make me Jim Breuer. Kind of a one-trick pony.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:51 PM (GRvW4)

532 517 In all seriousness, there have been very good part-time scholars, but I'm not gonna insult Eric Hoffer's good name by comparing Hector to him. Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:47 PM (V/U0X)

Eric Hofer's scholarship was leavened with real world experience and clear-eyed observation of human nature.

Unlike you-know-who.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 08:51 PM (s0WlJ)

533 [i[As mentioned earlier, US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border, looking for cross-border movement of chemical weapons stocks.
Posted by: Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and Kookiefornicationa at October 10, 2012 08:49 PM (Qr3hQ)


I am sure that is where obama and his intellectual giant boys are looking, as all the WMDs walk right into Lebanon?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 10, 2012 08:51 PM (j1gX1)

534 528

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:51 PM (boomF)

535 526 Marvel went all in on Obama cock sucking.He's appeared in or been mentioned more than any other Pres in history.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:51 PM (6o4Fb)

536
I'm like the Garret Morris of the cast<>><

Ehh. I'm thinking Joe Piscopo.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 08:52 PM (JDIKC)

537 8:50 PM EDT, and the headline still reads "En Route To Russia"

Posted by: Chris M at October 10, 2012 08:52 PM (4lyMJ)

538 518 I'm seriously pissed at DC comics right now over the muslim Green Lantern(not just that he is a muslim,of course he was an innocent persecuted after 9/11).

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:48 PM (6o4Fb)


--Ssshhhhh, keep it down. You might summon palin steele.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 08:52 PM (V/U0X)

539 Plane was coming FROM Russia, so none of the WMD in Syria were involved.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM

Geography is HARD

Posted by: kbdabear at October 10, 2012 08:53 PM (wwsoB)

540 I'm confused. Why else would you watch a show?


http://bit.ly/ThCSWR - It's a mystery.


And my offer of jalepeno cheese topping for the popcorn still stands. Although it may take me awhile to hobble over there.


Here. I'll send the roomba with the claw over to get it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 08:53 PM (Gk3SS)

541 If this is SNL, then "Hector" would be Craig Ferguson's leather slave guy who got lost and wandered into the wrong studio.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 08:53 PM (qZXps)

542 535

Oh yeah. I remember reading something about that. He meets Peter Parker or something.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:53 PM (boomF)

543 So what happened to the chicken?What do you think?
One chocked chicken coming up!

Posted by: from roseanne's diner at October 10, 2012 08:53 PM (BGVHF)

544 542 Fist bumps him,that was the first,before he was even inaugerated.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:54 PM (6o4Fb)

545 http://bit.ly/ThCSWR - It's a mystery.


Ahhhh. Never knew you were into scars.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 08:55 PM (GEICT)

546 You might summon palin steele.

That would complete this bowl of granola.

Posted by: fluffy 'n' crunchy at October 10, 2012 08:55 PM (O6q63)

547 So what happened to the chicken?What do you think?
One chocked chicken coming up!


You chocked the chicken? Afraid it was going to roll downhill otherwise?

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 08:55 PM (f/0ub)

548 CTRL+F #,

Then use page down to swiftly return to the bottom of the thread.

Otherwise it's a slog to figure out what the heck is going on here half the time.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 08:50 PM (KCvsd)


I am not text searching everytime some schmuck refuses to paste what he's addressing. If it's not within a couple of wheels above the post I'm not bothering with it. This way, if someone wants to have a more "private" discussion with someone they can harass each other with nothing but comment numbers and no one else will be bothered.

It's just basic decency in conversation - blog conversation. I'm not saying that someone has to paste stuff every single time, but most of the time they should think about others who are reading their stuff. Otherwise, many people should just ignore them. I certainly do. That seems to be what they want so everyone's happy.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 08:55 PM (X3lox)

549 >>>Anything good going on?

It's like a special Olympics trails heat in here.

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 08:56 PM (vm7ot)

550 here's an article by a guy whose name I forget -- I believe he was a Greek, and I believe he was formerly a Communist agent, and I believe he wrote on National Review for a time

Would that be Taki? Never heard that he was a commie agent, though...

Posted by: OregonMuse at October 10, 2012 08:56 PM (9GaPd)

551 --Ssshhhhh, keep it down. You might summon palin steele. Posted by: logprof

You and your useful professorship...

Capt. America is Marvel; Lanterns are DC.

So there!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 08:56 PM (bCaR9)

552 544

How did they work that in to a coherent story?

(If you know.)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:56 PM (boomF)

553 125
if it really was a russian plane flying to syria or

flying from russia someone should make a correction to the headline or

our "smart military blog" is going to get tarnished.



Posted by: yankeefifth
....

To? From? It's all the same to Ace.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM

This could be as big as armies going from Poland to Germany in 1939

Posted by: Smart Military Blog at October 10, 2012 08:56 PM (wwsoB)

554 It's just basic decency in conversation - blog
conversation. I'm not saying that someone has to paste stuff every
single time, but most of the time they should think about others who are
reading their stuff. Otherwise, many people should just ignore them. I
certainly do. That seems to be what they want so everyone's happy.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 08:55 PM (X3lox)

I actually do that as a matter of habit. Sometimes I worry that it's annoying. Good to know it's not.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 08:57 PM (GRvW4)

555 A lot of good reminders about history in this thread. It's good to remember where our hands are dirty too.

Posted by: Max Power at October 10, 2012 08:57 PM (q177U)

556 546

Fluffer, is that you?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:57 PM (boomF)

557 125
if it really was a russian plane flying to syria or

flying from russia someone should make a correction to the headline or

our "smart military blog" is going to get tarnished.



Posted by: yankeefifth
....

To? From? It's all the same to Ace.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 07:27 PM

This is a big fuckin' deal. Like the French invading Lebanon

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 08:58 PM (wwsoB)

558 548

Ok.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:58 PM (boomF)

559 549

Project much?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 08:58 PM (boomF)

560 >> Plane was coming FROM Russia, so none of the WMD in Syria were involved.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 07:51 PM

Congratulations! You are the 19th caller to correctly point this out. You win 2 turns in the barrel, AND a lifetime subscription to Poop Magazine.

Just be grateful ace didn't do a flaming skull on this one.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 08:58 PM (ccXZP)

561 So what happened to the chicken?What do you think?

One chocked chicken coming up!


Chocked chicken is a delicacy in my tribe. I even submitted a recipe for it in Pow Wow Chow

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 10, 2012 08:58 PM (lyStv)

562 552 I never read it lest I get ill but Spiderman apparently stops a plot to assassinate Obama or something.The fist bump is on the cover,I've seen it unfortunately.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 08:59 PM (6o4Fb)

563
Had the Obama foreign policy been more focused on things other than promoting abortion and same sex marriage in every place on the planet except where they... you know... kill people who do that shit (hello muzzies), than maybe they wouldn't find themselves in the shit they're in.

Just sayin'

Posted by: HtP at October 10, 2012 09:00 PM (jx2j9)

564 OT, but I got to say, the Lamb woman from the State Department who testified today? Really svelte and attractive, I must say.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 09:00 PM (qZXps)

565 A lot of good reminders about history in this thread. It's good to remember where our hands are dirty too.

Do I sense an evil America rant forming? If so let me know, I'd like to put my feet up and get comfy so I can laugh hysterically at the ridiculous psuedo intellectual bullshit you'll no doubt regurgitate from a bunch of lefty professors who wouldn't know history if it bit them in the ass.

Also, I'd appreciate the heads up so I could prepare some popcorn first. Thanks.

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 09:00 PM (f/0ub)

566 560

Settle down.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:00 PM (boomF)

567 Chocked chicken is a delicacy in my tribe. I even submitted a recipe for it in Pow Wow Chow>>

Well chocking your chicken does keep it from rolling away I guess.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (GeJs5)

568 ThePrimordialOrderedPair, it was good form to link post numbers back to reply in order to not bloat the comment section into an ever growing list of longer quoted posts. Unfortunately as we all managed to break the blog on a few occasions (sorry Gabe) using the codes, it became necessary to disable the functionality.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (KCvsd)

569 Wow, anyone catch the beginning of Modern Family?

Great zinger (if unintentional) by Luke.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (V/U0X)

570 562

I wonder if he regrets that decision now.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (boomF)

571 hi all
workin' at Applebee's tonite

Posted by: chemjeff at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (cnS/d)

572 Marvel went all in on Obama cock sucking.He's appeared in or been mentioned more than any other Pres in history.

---

Which is one reason why if there's any Marvel product that interests me these days (and there ain't much), I download it.

They're not getting dime one from me.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (aHR5E)

573 #548, well said, and I agree with the sentiments expressed in that post entirely.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (qZXps)

574 Ahhhh. Never knew you were into scars.


Everyone has their things.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at October 10, 2012 09:01 PM (Gk3SS)

575 US troops are now in Jordan, patrolling the border

Keeping the world safe for mullahcracy...

Posted by: Brother BHO at October 10, 2012 09:02 PM (FcR7P)

576 Marvel has done stupid political stunts before though.Captain America(yeah,I brought him up) changed his name to Nomad because he was ashamed over Watergate or something.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 09:02 PM (6o4Fb)

577 Damn it! That subscription could have been mine!

Posted by: Chuck Berry at October 10, 2012 09:03 PM (lyStv)

578 573

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:03 PM (boomF)

579 workin' at Applebee's tonite

Balance is restored to the universe.

Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 09:03 PM (O6q63)

580 Don't you love how we can have troops patrolling the Jordanian border but not the Mexican border?

Talk about off-shoring jobs....

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at October 10, 2012 09:03 PM (KCvsd)

581 576

Didn't know that.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:04 PM (boomF)

582 Everyone has their things.

You're an enigma, Alex

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 09:04 PM (s0WlJ)

583 if its mumr/ron/lampshade even if he did include part of the post he was referencing you're still better off skipping over his mindless drivel.

Posted by: buzzion at October 10, 2012 09:04 PM (LrX95)

584 Do I sense an evil America rant forming? If so let me know, I'd like to put my feet up and get comfy so I can laugh hysterically at the ridiculous psuedo intellectual bullshit you'll no doubt regurgitate from a bunch of lefty professors who wouldn't know history if it bit them in the ass.

Pay no attention to that cocksucking piece of shit.

He's one of Obama's choom gang buddies but he drives a minivan, so it's ok:

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=318513#c13697950

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 10, 2012 09:04 PM (ogdab)

585 Correction and new Thread

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 09:04 PM (bCaR9)

586 Don't you love how we can have troops patrolling the Jordanian border but not the Mexican border?

Hmmm.. I wonder if the reason for that is that the Jordanian's won't take jobs that American's "won't do" or "don't want".


Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 09:04 PM (f/0ub)

587 571 hi all
workin' at Applebee's tonite


Chemjeff, sup man. Whatcha doin there?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 09:05 PM (GEICT)

588
Wow, anyone catch the beginning of Modern Family?

Great zinger (if unintentional) by Luke.

YES I was going to write it.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 10, 2012 09:05 PM (0CiTm)

589 He's one of Obama's choom gang buddies but he drives a minivan, so it's ok:

A minivan? Aren't they all issued Chevy Volt's by big daddy government?

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 09:06 PM (f/0ub)

590 583

Be my guest.


But try to keep your word.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:06 PM (boomF)

591 The correction is now posted.

And to MUMR, my one and only engagement with your worthless ass tonite is an invitation to FOAD.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 09:06 PM (ccXZP)

592 Hey, someone told me you folks have a Serb problem here?

Posted by: Bayezid I, Yildirim at October 10, 2012 09:06 PM (qZXps)

593 Chemjeff, sup man. Whatcha doin there?

reviewing book chapters for a publisher

and enjoying some beer

and avoiding the tree guy at my house

Posted by: chemjeff at October 10, 2012 09:07 PM (cnS/d)

594 591

Try to keep your word too.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:07 PM (boomF)

595 580 Don't you love how we can have troops patrolling the Jordanian border but not the Mexican border?

I don't think Mexico has chemical weapons which could easily be transferred to a terrorist group.

But I'm just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 09:07 PM (s0WlJ)

596 And to MUMR, my one and only engagement with your worthless ass tonite is an invitation to FOAD.

I hope you printed it on that heavy bond manila paper. That always makes invitations look so cool. Oh, and does he need to RSVP prior to fucking off and dying?

Just curious.. lol

Posted by: StuckonStupid at October 10, 2012 09:08 PM (f/0ub)

597 BCochran what are you up to

Posted by: chemjeff at October 10, 2012 09:09 PM (cnS/d)

598 588
Wow, anyone catch the beginning of Modern Family?

Great zinger (if unintentional) by Luke.

YES I was going to write it.

Posted by: USS Diversity at October 10, 2012 09:05 PM (0CiTm)

--I shall:

(Smarty-pants little sister): "If you're [older sister Haley going to college] the future of this country, we might as well start using Chinese money now."

Luke: We already are.

For all its liberal leanings, I think there's a conservative on the writing staff.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 09:09 PM (V/U0X)

599 596

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:09 PM (boomF)

600 A minivan? Aren't they all issued Chevy Volt's by big daddy government?

Fuck that small-l vs. big-L libertarian bullshit. He's one of those scare-quotes libertarians: The kind who's completely cool talking all that freedom shit so long as nobody's threatening to take the bigass government jackboot off *my* neck.

If that ever happens, who in the hell is going to pay for his EBT Doritos when he gets the munchies?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at October 10, 2012 09:10 PM (ogdab)

601 I don't think Mexico has chemical weapons which could easily be transferred to a terrorist group.

But I'm just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 09:07 PM (s0WlJ)

The terrorist groups are in Syria so our troops on the Jordanian border are not keeping WMD out of the hands of anyone particularly important.

That said, defending US sovereignty on our own border is still more important.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:11 PM (X3lox)

602 italics off

Grrr ....

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:11 PM (X3lox)

603
314 Romney was and still is not running many ads.

Hector old chum, I bet you don't live in a battlefield state. Romney is matching Obama ad for ad here in the DC market.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at October 10, 2012 09:13 PM (tpi5T)

604 So we're going to trust Jordanian Muslims not to screw us? Huh? ahhh, huh? I want my 150 guys back on the plane right now. I want the WMD's distributed equally. I want everyone to play MAD with us. I like the idea of totally innocent Muslims laying awake at night, starring at the ceiling, wondering if the wife and kids will make it to the souk in the morning, or be vaporized b4 noon because of some weird shit that some moeron, living large and western, decides to do that day in the name of God.

Posted by: and irresolute at October 10, 2012 09:13 PM (JvklE)

605 601

There are Palestinians in Jordan. And you can get to the West Bank through Jordan.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:14 PM (boomF)

606 The terrorist groups are in Syria so our troops on the Jordanian border are not keeping WMD out of the hands of anyone particularly important.

If that's what you think, then it's obvious you havent spent any time in the Middle East. Everyone is for sale, everyone knows someone in the terror biz, and the only question is how fast can the deal be done.

The troops are Special Forces, and they are there to prevent those weapons from leaving Syria.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 09:15 PM (s0WlJ)

607 3 days to meet up chemjeff.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 10, 2012 09:17 PM (d4o2E)

608 There are Palestinians in Jordan. And you can get to the West Bank through Jordan.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:14 PM (boomF)


Palestinian jihadi groups have been based in Damascus for over a decade. Of course there are palis in Jordan. Jordan is the Palestinian state. But Israel controls the flow from Jordan to the territories. Israel has never needed nor asked for any American soldiers to protect it from anyone, ever. This has nothing to do with Israel.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:18 PM (X3lox)

609 F*ck John McCain!

Posted by: The guy that read about McCain earlier and just remembered he hates John McCain at October 10, 2012 09:19 PM (HZCkA)

610 608

So every Palestinian in Jordan is a Christian and Israel has 100% total, complete control over the border with Jordan?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 09:21 PM (boomF)

611 The troops are Special Forces, and they are there to prevent those weapons from leaving Syria.

Posted by: Sean Bannion. at October 10, 2012 09:15 PM (s0WlJ)


Right .... when they would likely go through Lebanon, which is wide open and has been for some time including being totally controlled in the south by ... a terrorist organization - one of the most powerful and far-reaching ones.

Bullshit. This is a setup to get American soldiers closer to Syria so that Barky can pull the trigger on another Libya. Jordan has long had the best, most professional arab military. It doesn't need American help to close its borders.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:22 PM (X3lox)

612 Bullshit. This is a setup to get American soldiers closer to Syria so that Barky can pull the trigger on another Libya.

You're so far off base you're not even in the stadium anymore.

You're not going to effect much geo-political change with a couple Special Forces A Teams. BTW, SF has been on the ground advising the Syrian resistance for quite some time now.

But....on the Black Swan type chance that you're right, I'll buy you a steak dinner at the place of your choice. We'll check back in on November 7.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 09:27 PM (s0WlJ)

613 You're not going to effect much geo-political change with a couple Special Forces A Teams.

You're certainly not going to close a border with the same. So, what are they there for?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:29 PM (X3lox)

614 You're certainly not going to close a border with the same.

It's intel gathering. That's all.

"Patrolling" just makes it sound cool. The headlines are written by the same people who can't tell a armored personnel carrier from a tank.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 09:34 PM (s0WlJ)

615 It's intel gathering. That's all.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 09:34 PM (s0WlJ)


That's a CIA function to be done in quiet, not a uniformed personnel function to be done in the headlines.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:41 PM (X3lox)

616 334 I see a future with the USA standing shoulder to shoulder with one billion Chinese...I think you mean half a billion.

China's population is actually 1.35 billion.

This is one of the most fact-free threads I've ever seen here. The Morons are smart enough on domestic politics but it seems to stop at the water's edge.

Posted by: TooCon at October 10, 2012 09:51 PM (V4YIE)

617 Posted by: TooCon at October 10, 2012 09:51 PM (V4YIE)

That was a paraphrased quote from a movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 10, 2012 09:55 PM (X3lox)

618 To Barky, Syria is the new Libya. They both end in an a, and two of the same vowels.

Wagging the dog once Congress leaves DC today. Note the timing.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 10, 2012 09:58 PM (baL2B)

619 Arthur Chrenkoff?

That's the Russian I remember, with PJ Media now I believe.

http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/

Posted by: PJ at October 10, 2012 10:36 PM (DQHjw)

620 IfO does that, he blows my theory that he is Shia. Unless Assad has gone bad enough to have lost protection.

Assad is Alewhite, who are Shia only for convenience and by decree. Neither will help him with the Sunni. Nor with the hard core Shia.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 10, 2012 11:00 PM (1Qpmy)

621 338 Other way around. The Patriarch of the East separated from Rome, not the other way around.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 10, 2012 11:43 PM (1Qpmy)

622 gettin the Russians involved in who got to be Pope is such a GREAT idea

Adding the Romanovs to the Hapsburg/Sforza/Medici/Bourbons/etc mix would have been ... interesting ... to say the least

Posted by: Fox2! at October 10, 2012 11:51 PM (1Qpmy)

623
Russia had plans with all of its satrapies to evacuate the Nasty Stuff out upon collapse of the regime they'd been helping

That makes sense. Otherwise there is a non-zero chance that some of that stuff ends up in Chechnya.

And then in Russia. The hard way.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at October 11, 2012 09:30 AM (1hM1d)






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World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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