Jake Tapper Grills Carney On Benghazi Disinformation: Hey, Didn't The Administration Sort of Shoot First And Aim Later?

Some text, for now.

I almost do not want to even bother quoting Carney's responses, because they're non-responsive. Ask him if security was adequate, and he starts talking about consultations and investigations. Like Obama, his answers are kneeldowns-- running out the clock.

TAPPER: Lieutenant Colonel Wood and Eric Nordstrom, the former regional security officer, have both suggested that there were efforts from the U.S. embassy in Libya to have more security, and the State Department — State Department officials wouldn’t let it happen. Why? Why didn’t the State Department listen to these men on the ground in Libya who wanted there to be more security?

CARNEY: Jake, as I said, there is no question that the result of what happened in Benghazi is not acceptable. Four Americans killed is not an acceptable situation, and that is why the president moved so quickly to ensure that an investigation was launched to bring the perpetrators to justice, the killers to justice, and a review was launched at the State Department to look at our security posture at the Bengali — I mean, not Bengali — at the Benghazi facility and elsewhere.

You know, those matters are under investigation.

I have a question for Jake Tapper. I'm not asking this as a bitch, because he seems to remember the job of the reporter is not to report the stories and narratives the Administration wants to report -- after all, the Most Powerful Man on Earth can get his narrative out without the press' help -- but rather to report the stories and narratives the Administration (any Administration) doesn't want reported.

But I think he's getting snowed here, and I would like try to unsnow him.

Carney is conflating two investigations -- one which can be accomplished quickly, and one which will take time and money and FBI agents and foreign contacts to ferret out.

One investigation -- the harder one -- is to determine who carried out these attacks, and how.

The other investigation -- the easy one -- is to find out who in the Administration denied these requests, and why, and if they consulted with higher-ups in so denying the requests for improved security. And to find out who decided to direct a disinformation campaign at the citizens of the United States -- "spontaneous attack," "despicable YouTube video."

Note this investigation solely involves US personnel and US memos. The physical "search" for this investigation consists of walking down the halls of the State Department, knocking on a door of a co-worker, and asking a question.

The Administration is trying to claim that the easy investigation is all wrapped up with and inextricably linked to the more difficult one, so they are claiming they can't answer the easy questions (easily answered in a day or two) until they answer the hard ones (which will take, fortuitously enough, until after the election to resolve).

Now actually I don't know if Tapper is being snowed by this or understands it perfectly. He seems like a savvy enough guy.

So I guess what I'm asking for is for Tapper to call Carney out on this deliberate conflation, and ever-so-gently remind him that the FBI is not required to find the memos in which US State Department personnel rejected requests for very necessary security.

State could release these at any time. The search, on their computers, would take no more than 1-2 days.

They are pretending mystifaction about something they already know the answers to.

Sure, they don't know yet who the terrorists were. But they damn well already know who nixed all the security requests. And they damn well know which higher-ups told the underlings to nix the requests.

We don't need to find out Which unknown twenty foreign terrorists carried out the attack? to answer the much-easier question Which US personnel denied the requests for security? or Who decided to trot out the "spontaneous protest"/"YouTube video" lie when all intelligence indicated this was a planned terrorist attack having nothing to do with a video or protest?

These are separate questions and separate investigations. The fact that one may take weeks doesn't change the fact that the other takes hours -- hours, plus a willingness of State to tell the truth.

"Normalization:" Apparently the theory State was employing was "Normalization." Which I take to mean: Let's treat Benghazi (and Libya) as if it is a normal country, with normal, low threat of violence against our embassies, and it will thus become so.

Naive? I think so. I bet Romney thinks so too. Especially given that his main critique of Obama's foreign policy is naivete.

Annnnddd... Videos are now coming out. Great timing, Me.

And here's Jake Tapper and Ed Henry grilling the Hapless Hack Jay Carney. Tapper asks him specifically if the administration "shot first and aimed later." Carney babbles again about investigations.


Here's Shoot First, Aim Later, plus a lot of insensate babbling by Carney:

Posted by: Ace at 04:47 PM



Comments

1 Comment first, read later.

Posted by: fluffy at October 10, 2012 04:48 PM (O6q63)

2 No mas, no mas.

Posted by: dogfish at October 10, 2012 04:48 PM (N2yhW)

3 Forget it, Ace. It's Carneytown.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 04:50 PM (GRvW4)

4 You never get a straight answer from these people. They either evade the question like Carney are the lie like Obama. Whats the point in asking them?

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 04:50 PM (YdQQY)

5 Ace does grilling reviews now?

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 04:51 PM (UZQM8)

6 Maybe the MSM will start doing their jobs? Or at least a few of them like Tapper and CBS' Cheryl Atkinson?

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 04:51 PM (zLp5I)

7 The Man Who Knew Too Little


Posted by: zobmie Roger Ebert at October 10, 2012 04:51 PM (Dll6b)

8 Jay Carney is a snivelling little twit

Posted by: Adam repeats himself for the umpteenth time at October 10, 2012 04:52 PM (V6aL5)

9 Hey, now, it takes days and days and days to make sure that industrial strength magnets suddenly appear around all the backups of the emails and Word documents and the like containing that information. Data doesn't just shred itself, you know.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra impact. at October 10, 2012 04:52 PM (VtjlW)

10
1. Assume victory formation
2. Spike the ball
3. Win!

Posted by: President Bonehead at October 10, 2012 04:52 PM (vm7ot)

11
About that "tough" investigation, apparently they told us their plans on Facebook.

"...This president’s focus has been from day one on going after those who killed four Americans...." -- Jay "elongated nose" Carney

Which is why that Coptic film maker is already in jail presumably.

Posted by: Beagle at October 10, 2012 04:52 PM (sOtz/)

12 The sad part is many in the US will only learn about this fiasco if Romney and Ryan bring it up in the debates.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 04:53 PM (zLp5I)

13 The Bengali tigers must be dealt with.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 04:53 PM (dq7Ay)

14 “Given the fact that so much was made out of the video that apparently had absolutely nothing to do with the attack on Benghazi, that there wasn’t even a protest outside the Benghazi post, didn’t President Obama shoot first and aim later?”

“I’m not disputing that there was a protest.”

Yeah, Tapper, how dare you claim that there was a protest.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 10, 2012 04:53 PM (QF8uk)

15 Sure, they don't know yet who the terrorists were. But they damn well already know who nixed all the security requests. And they damn well know which higher-ups told the underlings to nix the requests.

__________________

This times 100.

Ya--don't know if I can take it.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 04:54 PM (r2PLg)

16 Here's the video of the smack down from Trey Gowdy today....prepare to fap....



http://tinyurl.com/8nf3z6c

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 04:54 PM (X6akg)

17 chirp, chirp, chirp said the crickets

Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at October 10, 2012 04:55 PM (cgxNI)

18 I can't take any more- we're in Bizarro World where 7.8% unemployment is a booming economy, sky-hi gas prices mean nothing, the President sends troops overseas on a whim, and the press has less credibility than your average crack whore


COSTA RICA LOOKIN GOOD- I could live like a king on what I have in my savings account

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 04:55 PM (8sCoq)

19 this is fucking hilarious

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 04:56 PM (ovpNn)

20
Tomorrow it will be "Video? What video?"

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 04:56 PM (jUytm)

21 >Jay Carney is a snivelling little twit


this does a disservice to sniveling twits everywhere

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 04:56 PM (8sCoq)

22 Man, i bet jay Carney knows how to suck a mean dick...i bet he uses lots of tongue to lick barrys balls while he deepthroats his shaft at the daily prepress information disimination session.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 04:57 PM (ovpNn)

23 Speaking of which just read this--right after the --

We're Going To Jordan Voyage!

________________________


October 10th, 2012
11:16 AM ET
Clapper: Sequestration disastrous for intelligence programs


Looming across-the-board cuts to the intelligence community budget will be devastating if Congress fails to act according to the nation's top intelligence officer.

"If sequestration is allowed to happen, it will be disastrous for intelligence," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told a group of intelligence officers and contractors gathered at a conference in Orland on Tuesday.

Clapper said every major intelligence program is "in jeopardy of being wounded" because the budget deal Congress passed last year does not allow the intelligence community any flexibility to prioritize needs.

"The current arrangement pre supposes that everything we do in intelligence is of equal import and we all know that's not the case,' Clapper said.

[...]

Clapper said the nation is facing the most diverse set of threats he has seen in his nearly 50 year career and called on Congress to "avert this train wreck" when it returns to Washington for a lame duck session after the November elections.


http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 04:57 PM (r2PLg)

24
Carney,... Carnie..., they're all the same:

Carnival workers. Good, hardworking, trustworthy, honest, good-for-nothing, unreliable, foul-smelling vagrants who work at our nation's (USA) carnivals.

Do not let these people into your homes.



h/t urban dict

Posted by: What's in a name? at October 10, 2012 04:57 PM (LpQbZ)

25
Last bus leaving for the bunker.

All aboard.

Posted by: Right in the Der Fuehrer's Farce at October 10, 2012 04:57 PM (rlba9)

26
Now more than ever I am certain that Paul Ryan must turn tomorrow's debate into a press conference holding Joe Biden and the Obama admin accountable for what they've done.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (jUytm)

27 Watched the Shep video...

Rick Nielson comments on Cheap Trick from the Obama administration.

*giggles and farts - then really starts laughing - shits pants - passes out laughing*

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (R18D0)

28 Howdy Doody Carney was just too polite.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (Hx5uv)

29

Trust in government is at an all time low, why?

Posted by: Carnival acts at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (LpQbZ)

30 jay Carney = Nathan Thurm


ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLBQxk72NY

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (8sCoq)

31 Libya - Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (H0lcY)

32 If you are Paul Ryan -the debate tomorrow is suppose to also entail foreign policy--speaking of getting snowed--what the hell would you go after first?

Oh hell I forgot the media will decide.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 04:59 PM (r2PLg)

33 The quote by Mark Twain : "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics" should now read "There are lies, damn lies, and Carney lies."

Posted by: dantesed at October 10, 2012 04:59 PM (t8SVQ)

34 So who's gonna blow Obama in the Oval so they can make this all go away?

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 04:59 PM (UZQM8)

35 So where did the lie come from? If it was Susan Rice I suspect she'd already be under the bus. Hillary can't be tossed out before the election because Obama needs Bill and a unified Democrat party. If it was Valerie Jarrett I am not sure when we will find out. I'm betting on Jarrett.

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at October 10, 2012 04:59 PM (EACTU)

36
Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 04:54 PM (X6akg)



I'm only about 2:30 through and I already want a cigarette.

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 04:59 PM (V6aL5)

37 NYT reporting that "The US military has secretly sent a task force...". Wow, thats some secret!

Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at October 10, 2012 05:00 PM (cgxNI)

38 Anyone seen Hillary! lately?

Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa's Ghost at October 10, 2012 05:00 PM (rlba9)

39 "Rep. Kelly points out the sheer absurdity of blaming protests and a video for the terrorist attack in Benghazi" - http://bit.ly/RPSXpK (TRS)

Posted by: 80sBaby at October 10, 2012 05:00 PM (YjDyJ)

40
"...the ongoing war on terror..."

I thought 'the war on terror' was over, no?

Posted by: Is what JQ Public is thinking... at October 10, 2012 05:01 PM (NBj0d)

41 16 Here's the video of the smack down from Trey Gowdy today....prepare to fap....http://tinyurl.com/8nf3z6c
Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 04:54 PM (X6akg)


Wow, Tami. Thanks for sharing that. Fap worthy indeed!

Posted by: Havedash at October 10, 2012 05:01 PM (ToMJU)

42 Now more than ever I am certain that Paul Ryan must turn tomorrow's debate into a press conference holding Joe Biden and the Obama admin accountable for what they've done.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 04:58 PM (jUytm)



Let's hope Ryan is not too polite.

Same chatter as pre-Oct.3rd debate.

Biden is a good orator/debater. He's got 40 years experience, etc.

Ryan, amateur debater. Little experience.

Same surreal world as pre-O v Romney debate.

Posted by: Carnival acts at October 10, 2012 05:01 PM (LpQbZ)

43 " What I can tell you is what the president’s interest is in. He is very interested in bringing the perpetrators to justice and ensuring that we find out what happened,"

So he's merely 'interested' in finding out the above. Contrast to the BP Oil well - he wanted to know 'whose ass to kick'

'Interested' is what I say to people when I really mean 'I'll look into it when you make me or if I just get really bored and run out of interesting things to do'.

Posted by: blindside at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (x7g7t)

44
"The future must not belong to those who lie about slandering Mohammed."

-Soothsayer

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (jUytm)

45 @35: When in doubt, Jarrett is the real President and everything comes from her.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (B/VB5)

46 I'm feeling lower than whale shit.

Posted by: Hillary's Career at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (rlba9)

47 The media smells blood in the water, they know the weak polls mean he is vulnerable and they are like hyenas - and will eat their own.

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (CofEF)

48 What is the over/under on "I am not a crook" being spoken before election day?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (cQpP1)

49 Q: Why didn't you provide more security for Benghazi?

A: Top men......Top.Men.

Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (fsLdt)

50
He is still saying at the end that the attack was spontaneous. WE KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE.

Makes me wonder what mistakes they are making in Jordan right now, because you know they are. Probably didn't give our guys any bullets.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2012 05:03 PM (PHb2k)

51 @42: Biden has something Obama never had: an innate comfort with retail politics. That's what carried him in the '08 VP debate, and it could potentially cause him to be perceived as beating or at least tying Ryan here even if Ryan gives better answers.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 05:03 PM (B/VB5)

52 Obama went to the UN and in his speech implied in such a straightforward manner that the attack in Benghazi was as a result of the youtube video that you would have to willing suspend belief not to know what he was doing. Fuck Hillary, Rice and the rest of the State Dept., Obama flat out lied to the American people.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 05:04 PM (TMB3S)

53 @KatiePavlich "Instant terrorist attack" "we were the last flag flying,
it was a matter of time" "I almost expected the attack." -Lt. Col. Wood
#libya

@jaketapper State Dept's Charlene Lamb, asked if budget cuts had anything to do with security decisions, said "No, sir."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 05:04 PM (YjDyJ)

54 When Dems use the word....'Investigation'....it really means:

"We're stalling for time while we work on our Coverup."

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 05:04 PM (l5RhJ)

55 Carney,Four Americans killed is not an acceptable situation, and that is why the president moved so quickly to ensure that an investigation was launched to bring the perpetrators to justice and a' review'

blah blah blah..
he moved so quickly to hang on the view call himself eye candy., go to las vegas, go hang out with jayz.

yeah srsly he cared a lot.
moved so quickly to blame a video.

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 05:05 PM (hX8cq)

56 "He is still saying at the end that the attack was spontaneous. WE KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE."

Premeditation - the new sponteneity.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 10, 2012 05:05 PM (TpXEI)

57 Republican Trey Gowdy also went off on Carney and Rice today.A very, very good exposition by him of the corruption -- and downright criminal behavior -- of the Obama admin.

Posted by: jb at October 10, 2012 05:05 PM (wALu2)

58 What I want to know is why some reporter hasn't accosted Carney onstage, slapped him with a pimp hand and demanded "Spill, bitch."

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 05:05 PM (mukPq)

59 Sheppy's got his petticoats in a bunch over this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 05:05 PM (QKKT0)

60 Gowdy for AG?

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 05:05 PM (zLp5I)

61 Wow, Shep is pissed. Thank God he gave that purple suit to good will.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 05:06 PM (wR+pz)

62 wtf--

we have 10-to 20,000 missing PRG's ?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:06 PM (r2PLg)

63 The balls on these guys!

Posted by: Gordon Liddy at October 10, 2012 05:06 PM (rlba9)

64 Let freedom ring!

Posted by: Arab Spring at October 10, 2012 05:06 PM (60GaT)

65 RPG's shit.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (r2PLg)

66 51
@42: Biden has something Obama never had: an innate comfort with retail
politics. That's what carried him in the '08 VP debate, and it could
potentially cause him to be perceived as beating or at least tying Ryan
here even if Ryan gives better answers.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 05:03 PM (B/VB5)

That blowhard barely held his own against Palin.What crack are you smoking? I want some!

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (ovpNn)

67 we didn't need security, our security was to come from my winning smile and my apolgies for everything america did to insult islam..

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (hX8cq)

68 Q: Why didn't you provide more security for Benghazi?

A: Top men......Top.Men.


You know that warehouse scene at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark?

Full of Obama's school records, memoirs and assorted skeletons.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (mukPq)

69 They could have Vinny Barbarino be the President's press secretary.
What? Where? What? When?

Posted by: polynikes at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (m2CN7)

70 Nordstrom said at the very end expressing his frustration at getting more security, "The Taliban is on the Inside of the Building"....



Here's video of that:


http://tinyurl.com/8dbpchv

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (X6akg)

71 Biden has something Obama never had: an innate comfort with retail politics. That's what carried him in the '08 VP debate, and it could potentially cause him to be perceived as beating or at least tying Ryan here even if Ryan gives better answers.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 05:03 PM (B/VB5)



Biden being perceived as doing better in a debate than Obama has a hell of a lot of more negatives attached to it than Biden getting spanked at the debate.

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (UZQM8)

72
"Do not attempt to force a submission hold on your opponent; wait for an opportunity. A good sensei teaches you to relax and flow with your opponent and wait for your opponent to make a mistake. When your opponent makes a mistake such as exposing a finger or a wrist or an ankle, you take it and force them to submit."

-- Shih Tzu

Romney and Ryan are presented with such an opportunity: Obama is showing his ass. Kick it. Hard.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (jUytm)

73 A reminder: the Brown-Warren debate will be aired on CSPAN tonight starting at 7 ET.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 05:08 PM (I2LwF)

74 If Obama loses, Shemp Smith will re-enact the live suicide from a few weeks ago.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 05:08 PM (mukPq)

75 Well we would have finished the investigation already if gaffe-prone Romney hadn't gaffed things up with all his gaffes.

Posted by: Jay Carney at October 10, 2012 05:08 PM (2jQGY)

76 Jake tapper is a tool. he does not deserve his rep as a hard hitting reporter. he asks a few questions and sulks off...HACK!

Posted by: rukiddingme? at October 10, 2012 05:08 PM (MbeEN)

77 >>>I'm feeling lower than whale shit.

You know what's lower than whale shit? Squid shit.

Just saying, toots.

Posted by: President Bonehead at October 10, 2012 05:08 PM (vm7ot)

78 He is still saying at the end that the attack was spontaneous.

This is a line I wish the Congresscritters had followed.

"Mrs. Lamp, have you ever set up a mortar? Even a tiny one? Do you have any idea how much work it takes? Or how many bodies? Logistics? How difficult aiming it is when you can -not' just fire it off and decide 'Ok, now more to the left?' How long would it take to do that?

Now... are you saying that the State Department does have anyone competent to perform that assessment? These two military geeks said "Instantly" that it wasn't spontaneous the second they heard the word "Mortars".

And you're claiming that "State Resources" are just as good as the military. But you can't recognize the difficulty of using mortars in a "Spontaneous Attack?"

No further questions, because you're depressing the hell out of me.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 05:09 PM (MzQOZ)

79 60 Gowdy for AG?

---

I think we're likely to get Rudy as AG.

Gowdy, OTOH, may be fast-tracked for leadership in the House if he decides not to run for Sen. Jim DeMint's seat when he retires in a few years.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 10, 2012 05:09 PM (e0xKF)

80 48 What is the over/under on "I am not a crook" being spoken before election day?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 05:02 PM (cQpP1)

_____________

Oh shit--took a swig of H2O before reading that--instant nasal cleanse--YEEE HAAA!!!

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:09 PM (r2PLg)

81 Sheppy's got his petticoats in a bunch over this.

He doesn't give a shit he's just a grandstander.

E's lookin out for the folks e is.

Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 05:09 PM (fsLdt)

82 didn't people think Biden gave a better DNC speech than Obama

granted people said Obama's was blah

Posted by: JParker at October 10, 2012 05:09 PM (60GaT)

83 51 @42: Biden has something Obama never had: an innate comfort with retail politics. That's what carried him in the '08 VP debate, and it could potentially cause him to be perceived as beating or at least tying Ryan here even if Ryan gives better answers. Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 05:03 PM (B/VB5) That blowhard barely held his own against Palin.What crack are you smoking? I want some!
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (ovpNn)

Stand up, let us see you Dr Pepper. Let me assure you the president has a big stick ! Whoooo Whooooo chugga chugga.

Posted by: Sherrif Joe at October 10, 2012 05:10 PM (nTgAI)

84 Carney must repeat the word 'clear' at least 10 times in that excerpt you posted ace.

Yet all he says is gobbletygook. I do like your line of argument that there are several lines of investigation, many of which can be answered now (or 3 weeks ago).

It's been a day shy of a full month now, and all we know for sure is that *someone* was blowing smoke up our asses.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 05:10 PM (ccXZP)

85 "Do not attempt to force a submission hold on your opponent; wait for an opportunity. A good sensei teaches you to relax and flow
with your opponent and wait for your opponent to make a mistake. When
your opponent makes a mistake such as exposing a finger or a wrist or an
ankle, you take it and force them to submit."



-- Shih Tzu


The journey of one thousand miles begins with a $150 fill-up.

Posted by: Henry Chu, Chinese Philosopher at October 10, 2012 05:10 PM (QKKT0)

86 3 investigations:
1. Who denied the requested security?
2. Who carried out the attack?
3. Who decided on the misinformation campaign about the attack.

Posted by: USA at October 10, 2012 05:10 PM (RIg+t)

87 Rumor has it Jay Carney's medical insurance plan provides for elective rhinoplasty, up to one per day.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 05:10 PM (mukPq)

88 Tapper should mock his small hands.

Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 05:10 PM (QupBk)

89 "The Taliban is on the Inside of the Building"....


__________________

Oh crap--I thought it was the Taliban is there--I didn't know it was-

they are coming from INSIDE your HOUSE.

gawd!

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:11 PM (r2PLg)

90 Ah, the isolated liberal, so used to the safe confines of liberal island, finds itself torn to shreds when invasive species come to their island and take advantage of their adapted sloth in thinking.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 05:11 PM (QxSug)

91 What the fucking shit?

Is Jay Carney channeling Haldemann and Ehrlichman??

Posted by: dodging bullets in Chicago at October 10, 2012 05:12 PM (befMf)

92 My friends, I may have been wrong about your fears.

Posted by: Juan McCain at October 10, 2012 05:13 PM (rlba9)

93 Carney was just being too polite to know what in the fuck he's talking about

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 05:13 PM (1Jaio)

94 Romney's ill-considered statements got an American ambassador buggered by otherwise friendly natives.

Posted by: Jay Carney at October 10, 2012 05:13 PM (QKKT0)

95 Most notable of the invasive species invading liberal island and tearing up the defenseless liberals is the Spotted Issa, a terrifying creature to the cocooned liberal parasite. The Spotted Issa lures the cocooned liberal into its chambers with a subpoena lure and then toys with its prey for days on end, ultimately dispatching its victim with sanctions.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 05:14 PM (QxSug)

96 @16

Holy FUCK. Wife lives in SC, I am moving.

Why for two hundred years has SC always stood up for freedom for tyranny when no one else would? OK VA does too.





Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 05:14 PM (wR+pz)

97 carney, 'listen folks, it was called arab sping, seemed harmless"

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 05:14 PM (hX8cq)

98 Another invasive species is the Warbling Tapper which consumes Yellowthroated Warbling Carnies whole.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 05:15 PM (QxSug)

99 Prezident Destructo and his Chaos Loons.

They know they're losing. Now it's, "let's kill this nation while we still have the power".

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 05:15 PM (isjdZ)

100 Surprised yet?

Posted by: October at October 10, 2012 05:15 PM (rlba9)

101 I hate Carnies.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2012 05:15 PM (PHb2k)

102 Sandwich chef weighs in.

http://bit.ly/QSOClM

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 05:15 PM (mukPq)

103 This family feud between Barry and Hillary could get real ugly, real fast.

It's gonna be like Ike and Tina all over again.

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 05:16 PM (vm7ot)

104 At least they got that Nakoula guy off the streets.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (+lsX1)

105 grilling the Hapless Simple Hack Jay Carney.

Goodbye mama, now you can have ice cream in heaven! I'll see you again tonight when I go to bed in my head-movies. But this head-movie makes my eyes rain!


Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (bCaR9)

106 Charlotte Lamb says “We had the correct number of [security] assets in Benghazi”

We agree

Posted by: al Qaeda at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (B5y+v)

107 Also, Rep. Something Adams, R-FL was good as well as Rep. Something Kelly R-PA.

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (X6akg)

108
Obviously the OA thinks they can run out the clock here, which is why the FBI didn't get there for 2 weeks. This business of "too dangerous for the FBI" is faggy bullshit. Send them in with Seal Team 5 with instructions to shoot to kill.

That there's America!

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (r5w1L)

109 BBL off to Club for beverage!! ha ha

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo intellectual at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (wR+pz)

110 It's gonna be like Ike and Tina all over again.

Hillary would be Ike.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 10, 2012 05:18 PM (QKKT0)

111 Carney is such a cocksucking motherfucking stuttering clusterfuck of a lying asshole. His boss taught him well.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 05:18 PM (ovpNn)

112 18 COSTA RICA LOOKIN GOOD- I could live like a king on what I have in my savings account


Get there quick. As more Yanquis come down, the locals raise prices. Which pisses off the locals no end, and rightly so.

I go there quite a bit, actually, and it is really nice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 10, 2012 05:18 PM (vCK/R)

113 108

Obviously the OA thinks they can run out the clock here, which is
why the FBI didn't get there for 2 weeks. This business of "too
dangerous for the FBI" is faggy bullshit. Send them in with Seal Team 5
with instructions to shoot to kill.

That there's America!

Posted by: spongeworthy at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (r5w1L)

Only if they are allowed to have bullets in their weapons this time. Otherwise fuck it, take off and nuke the site from orbit.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at October 10, 2012 05:19 PM (ovpNn)

114 I listened to the early part of that WH press briefing, had it on Fox News via the satellite radio in the truck while traveling. Fox cut it off before Tapper came in with a question.

It sounded to me as if Carney was trying to filibuster the event, eat up all the time before Tapper or someone with the same bent came in with a real question.

Carney was laying out the line that they are really really trying to dig into the matter. Really really.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 10, 2012 05:19 PM (PH+2B)

115 paper tiger

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 05:20 PM (hX8cq)

116 Investigation one, Who did it? We don't need to know anything about this until well after our quiet professionals bring justice to them some dark night. Bring the FBI home before they get hurt.

Investigation two, Where was the policy failure? This will be fought in DC with Issa, eventually the GAO, a whitewash report from State, and eventually a few books.

Investigation three, Who decided to lie to the American people and debase the first Amendment to appease the savages? Who is going to lead here, the press, R&R?

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 05:20 PM (UjSt7)

117 OT: Is this Biden photo real? http://tinyurl.com/99ab3wb

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 10, 2012 05:20 PM (9eDbm)

118 That Lamb lady seems peachy

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 05:21 PM (QxSug)

119 I am amazed we haven't seen a mushroom cloud over one of our cities with the incompetence being shown here.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 05:21 PM (cQpP1)

120 Don't want Rudy for AG. Want Jay Sekulow.

Posted by: teej says go K-State at October 10, 2012 05:21 PM (/tk/V)

121 I have no doubt Tapper is a liberal, but he seems to be the only Washington reporter that actually has the balls to do their job.

That USED to be how the media was, it was always liberal, but the good reporters were still willing to challenge Democrat politicians from time to time.

It's almost as if because the MSM doesn't have the "punch" it used to, they've become more shrill and over the top to try and make up for it. They don't even try to look unbiased anymore, they flaunt it now.

Posted by: McAdams at October 10, 2012 05:22 PM (Dmp6C)

122 @michellemalkin Chaffetz to Nordstrom: You were asking for increased assets. That was denied. Yet State increased their "danger pay."

State Dept Regional Security Officer/whistleblower Nordstrom: "There was no plan. It was HOPED it would get better." #benghazi

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 05:23 PM (YjDyJ)

123 Drudge header--

Obama attended the wedding of the VP Debate Moderator.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:23 PM (r2PLg)

124 On the bright side, Hillary is done plaguing us on November 7th.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 05:23 PM (I2LwF)

125 Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (UZQM

Course, we all know Biden is the intellect of the Democratic party. Kind of a grin with a body behind it.

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at October 10, 2012 05:24 PM (i0vBR)

126 Just a reminder of the formidable opponent Paul Ryan will be facing Thursday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 10, 2012 05:24 PM (rlba9)

127 There checking the cell structure...............

Heyoooooo..........bading bing..............yesssss.....annnnnnnnnnnnd....

Cell structure is checked!

Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 05:24 PM (fsLdt)

128 New Neighbor: Hi, I'm Mike Smith. What's your name?

Jay Carney: Hi. What's in a name? Webster defines it as "a word or phrase that constitutes the distinctive designation of a person or thing." But is that really enough to define a person? The ancients had a tradition of blah blah blah blah blah...

New Neighbor: Um... yeah. See ya' in the funny papers, Dipsh*t.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 10, 2012 05:24 PM (eHIJJ)

129 Bring the FBI home before they get hurt.

That line had me busting a gut.

but he seems to be the only Washington reporter that actually has the balls to do their job.
Sharyl Attkisson appears to have massive ovaries as well.

Posted by: Al at October 10, 2012 05:24 PM (MzQOZ)

130 Obama attended the wedding of the VP Debate Moderator.

Even though they are divorced now, isn't the fact that Barry appointed the father of her son to the FCC a conflict of interest?

Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (QupBk)

131 Course, we all know Biden is the intellect of the Democratic party. Kind of a grin with a body behind it.
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at October 10, 2012 05:24 PM (i0vBR)


Negatives for Obama I mean

Posted by: cajun carrot at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (UZQM8)

132 As I said, there is no question that the result of what happened on your face is not acceptable. 10 cc of something on your face is not an acceptable situation, and that is why I moved so quickly to ensure that an investigation was launched to find out the nature of this occurrence, and a review was launched at your face to look at your reaction in bed and elsewhere.

You know, those matters are under investigation.

Posted by: Jay Carney at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (V/U0X)

133 Issa knows the answer to question one, the easy one, will not be gotten either, no matter who he pulls in to tell them all lies.

But it is the only way to keep this question out there in front of the voters, and he hopes that by holding the hearings, with the Foreign Policy President (the TM is Ace's) in the PIT, the PENDULUM will keep dropping.

Drop, drop, drop.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (PH+2B)

134 I am amazed we haven't seen a mushroom cloud over one of our cities with the incompetence being shown here.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 05:21 PM (cQpP1)


-----------------------------------------------


They've got until Jan 20th. It's not over yet. Or else they've set it up to happen on Romney's watch. This is my fear.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (isjdZ)

135
Jay has lied so much, I no longer accept his belief he sports a 10-inch dick.

Posted by: Claire Shipman, ABC News and Jay Hump at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (lDWQr)

136 Miss me yet?

I bet my friends are wishing they had an expert in foreign policy running now.

Posted by: John McCain at October 10, 2012 05:27 PM (h9gW0)

137 Come on Ace, really? It is impolite for you to suggest that the ABC reporter is not asking the correct questions.

And by the way, in case you did not get the message already, it is not polite to say anything that might hurt the feelings of the Islam world so everyone who is doing that should stop.

Also, I saw an interview today of the 14-year girl whom the Taliban shot in the head. I'd vote for her as President of the USA. She didnt sound like she was about to apologize for telling the truth about radical Islam.

Posted by: TD at October 10, 2012 05:27 PM (+uFux)

138 Jay Carney is a snivelling little twit (SLT)and Obama is a SCOAMF. We need signifiers for Holder, Hillary, Jarrett, Axelrod and Napolitano.

Posted by: AOSHQ Acronym Project at October 10, 2012 05:27 PM (1FOy5)

139 122
@michellemalkin Chaffetz to Nordstrom: You were asking for increased
assets. That was denied. Yet State increased their "danger pay."


Issa reiterated that in his closing statement, saying it "makes no sense."

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 05:27 PM (X6akg)

140 Even though they are divorced now, isn't the fact that Barry appointed the father of her son to the FCC a conflict of interest?
Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (QupBk)
_______________

Okay I've typed--

OMG and WTF enough for one day--Jeezzuz.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:27 PM (r2PLg)

141 OT: Is this Biden photo real? http://tinyurl.com/99ab3wb

Jaysus that would be funny as hell if real.

Posted by: eleven at October 10, 2012 05:28 PM (fsLdt)

142
When Romney and Ryan take over, they need to clean up a lot of bureaucracies.

For the State Department, they should augment the garden spots of Ghana, Mali, Congo, etc., with all the deadwood. I am sure there are other hell holes that these people can be sent to. Give these spots 15 ambassadors if necessary, starting with Ambassador Kennedy. This guy is a fucking lying tool. And leave them there until they rot.

These are lying sacks of shit.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 05:28 PM (zLp5I)

143 Buying extra popcorn for the VP debate.

Posted by: Honey Badger at October 10, 2012 05:28 PM (GvYeG)

144 72 When your opponent makes a mistake such as exposing a finger or a wrist or an ankle, you take it and"


Break it off and shove it up their ass.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 10, 2012 05:28 PM (Lzoje)

145 @123 - that's less of an issue than the fact that Obama named her husband as FCC chair.

Posted by: JEM at October 10, 2012 05:29 PM (o+SC1)

146 In that quote at the top, Information Minister Carney didn't even answer the question. Mr. Tapper was not asking if they were OK with the outcome. Minister of Information

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 10, 2012 05:30 PM (9eDbm)

147 Carney is a dung beetle. All he does is roll shit around.

Posted by: maddogg at October 10, 2012 05:30 PM (OlN4e)

148 I gotta share this blurb from the AP --

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama sought Wednesday to reassure hand-wringing Democrats in the wake of his lackluster first debate, declaring, "I got this."

Boy, that sounds awfully reminiscent of his 2010 statement "the difference is, this time you got me."

Narcissist you much?

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 05:31 PM (ccXZP)

149 The problem with Ace's take is that the hard investigation is the easy one, and the easy investigation is the hard one.

Not because of where the material is or who has to do the work, but because of who will be fingered by each.

The 'easy' investigation would bring well-connected Obamadrones or even Hillary into disrepute. That can't be permitted.


Posted by: JEM at October 10, 2012 05:31 PM (o+SC1)

150 134 I am amazed we haven't seen a mushroom cloud over one of our cities with the incompetence being shown here.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 05:21 PM (cQpP1)


-----------------------------------------------


They've got until Jan 20th. It's not over yet. Or else they've set it up to happen on Romney's watch. This is my fear.
Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (isjdZ)

__________________

well you know--

$100 billion down the drain in a failed stimulus get's you-

Clapper: Sequestration disastrous for intelligence programs


Looming across-the-board cuts to the intelligence community budget will be devastating...

Clapper said the nation is facing the most diverse set of threats he has seen in his nearly 50 year career




Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:32 PM (r2PLg)

151 Great column by Jack Welch in the WSJ today:

Imagine a country where challenging the ruling authorities—questioning, say, a piece of data released by central headquarters—would result in mobs of administration sympathizers claiming you should feel "embarrassed" and labeling you a fool, or worse.

Soviet Russia perhaps? Communist China? Nope, that would be the United States right now, when a person (like me, for instance) suggests that a certain government datum (like the September unemployment rate of 7.8%) doesn't make sense.

Unfortunately for those who would like me to pipe down, the 7.8% unemployment figure released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) last week is downright implausible. And that's why I made a stink about it.


--and that's just the opening.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 05:33 PM (V/U0X)

152 HAHAHAHAHAHA AS AWH spokesmen Carney Makes a LOUSY Reporter

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 05:33 PM (ck76k)

153 I'm Barack Obama and I approved this clusterfuck.

Posted by: Barky O'Genius at October 10, 2012 05:34 PM (QKKT0)

154 In fairness, Carney was a lousy reporter first.

Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 05:34 PM (QupBk)

155 Wow...ace, you just managed to stir a little outrage up in me. Bunch of stuttering fuck ups in this administration!

Posted by: Max Power at October 10, 2012 05:34 PM (q177U)

156 145 >> @123 - that's less of an issue than the fact that Obama named her husband as FCC chair.

Actually he's her ex-husband. They were divorced in 1997.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 05:35 PM (ccXZP)

157 Squirrel.

Posted by: TFG at October 10, 2012 05:35 PM (vbh31)

158 SurveyUSA

Ohio Obama lead down to only +1%

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (r2PLg)

159 "I got this!"

Posted by: Adolph Hitler in the Bunker at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (GvYeG)

160 Actually he's her ex-husband. They were divorced in 1997.


Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 05:35 PM (ccXZP)


Barack's midas touch......

Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (X6akg)

161 If Hillary is serious about not running in 2016 (she has repeatedly said she will not run), then she has a perfect opportunity now to throw Obama under the bus and redeem her reputation. All she has to say is that Barry ordered the "normalization" which explains the security rebuffs, and that Barry told her that he had info from some other agency that the video was the cause, thus explaining why she went along with him and publicly blamed the video. Who knows, this might have been what actually happened. I'm not trying to defend Hillary here, no big fan of hers, but I'd love to see her stick it to O.

I heard on TV earlier today that Hillary and Barry are meeting today. Sounds like they (or just Barry) want to get their stories straight.

Posted by: Mayday at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (F3s39)

162 I did not know that Ted Olson was doing the debate prep with Paul Ryan, playing the part of Biden.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (P6QsQ)

163
That little kerfluffle in the Gulf of Tonkin?


Yep, we're looking into it. It's complicated.

Posted by: State Dept. at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (1Y+hH)

164 This seems like the attack line they're going to use on Ryan in the debate: "Republican budget cuts."

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (i0vBR)

165 In my heart I know this will go nowhere. Nor will Fast and Furious, donor scandal, solyndra etc.

But Romneys "gaffe' mentioning that he had met one of the Seals who died in Libya, now there's a story. His Mother said don't use this story because you are making it political to use against obama. She doesn't trust Romney...

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 05:37 PM (9+ccr)

166 "I got this!"

Posted by: Mike Dukakis at October 10, 2012 05:37 PM (GvYeG)

167 162 I did not know that Ted Olson was doing the debate prep with Paul Ryan, playing the part of Biden.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (P6QsQ)

--He has to polish off a half-bottle in 30 minutes to get into the role.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 05:37 PM (V/U0X)

168 SurveyUSA

10/5 - 10/8

808 LV

MOE 3.5

Obama--45%

Romney--44%

Obama +1

_____________

Statistical TIE.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:37 PM (r2PLg)

169 would result in mobs of administration sympathizers claiming you should feel "embarrassed" and labeling you a fool, or worse

...or sic the IRS on you.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 05:37 PM (vbh31)

170
I did not know that Ted Olson was doing the debate prep with Paul Ryan, playing the part of Biden.

Can Olson lie on the fly?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 05:38 PM (/kI1Q)

171 Damnit that poll is for OHIO.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:38 PM (r2PLg)

172 Ryan's debate prep guy says they expect Biden to attack, attack, attack. Says they are prepared for that but especially after last week's debate.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 05:38 PM (P6QsQ)

173

I think that biden picture is real.

this one is too./

http://msnb cmedia.msn.com/j/ MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-110822-sumo -biden1-5a.photoblog900.jpg

Posted by: tod von oben at October 10, 2012 05:38 PM (UaxA0)

174 This is just unbelievable. We are living in a banana republic where the msm is owned by one party.

http://tinyurl.com/8kd5zmv

Posted by: JackStraw at October 10, 2012 05:38 PM (TMB3S)

175
134 I am amazed we haven't seen a mushroom cloud over one of our cities with the incompetence being shown here.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 05:21 PM (cQpP1)


-----------------------------------------------


They've got until Jan 20th. It's not over yet. Or else they've set it up to happen on Romney's watch. This is my fear.
Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (isjdZ)

__________________

well you know--

$100 billion down the drain in a failed stimulus get's you-

Clapper: Sequestration disastrous for intelligence programs


Looming across-the-board cuts to the intelligence community budget will be devastating...

Clapper said the nation is facing the most diverse set of threats he has seen in his nearly 50 year career

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:32 PM (r2PLg)


If the Bulletin of the atomic scientists was honest, they'd have the clock at 30 seconds to midnight. If TFG gets re-elected, it will happen.


Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 05:39 PM (zLp5I)

176 171 Damnit that poll is for OHIO OIHO.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 05:38 PM (r2PLg)


FIFY

Posted by: 0bamazoids at October 10, 2012 05:39 PM (V/U0X)

177 Actually he's her ex-husband. They were divorced in 1997.

Still the father of her child, so the conflict remains.

Posted by: toby928© for TB at October 10, 2012 05:39 PM (QupBk)

178 Report on Pearl Harbor attack will be ready soon!

Posted by: State Dept. at October 10, 2012 05:39 PM (1Y+hH)

179 130 Obama attended the wedding of the VP Debate Moderator.

Even though they are divorced now, isn't the fact that Barry appointed the father of her son to the FCC a conflict of interest?
Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (QupBk)



So I see TFG's magic touch works on personal relationships as well.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (GEICT)

180 @171 - and what's the D/R/I split?

I'm guessing...D+6.

Posted by: JEM at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (o+SC1)

181 178
Report on Pearl Harbor attack will be ready soon!

Posted by: State Dept. at October 10, 2012 05:39 PM (1Y+hH)

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl harbor?"

Posted by: Hello, it's just me Donna at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (9+ccr)

182 The Biden photo appears to be real.

Google "delaware law officers dedicate biden"

Then look at the cached copy of the second link you find to the Dover Post. It's from May 4, 2010. It doesn't have that photo, but you can see Biden and the officer at the event together with their chairs as in the photo.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (h9gW0)

183 Yet didn't Lamb say one of the reasons she denied more guards was that they weren't sure they were going to continue a presence in Benghazi? She seems to be implying they didn't want to be stuck with excess employees.

And who is her boss, where did the directive come from?

Posted by: PJ at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (DQHjw)

184 "We don't need to find out Which unknown twenty foreign terrorists carried out the attack? "
I don't give a fuck which 20 did it. It's like asking which 20 carried out 9/11. We are fighting an army. Kill the army.

Posted by: jb at October 10, 2012 05:41 PM (wALu2)

185 Snark from Mark Steyn:

“Vote Obama: He didn’t cancel Big Bird, just the Benghazi consulate security.”

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 05:41 PM (Hx5uv)

186 180 @171 - and what's the D/R/I split?

I'm guessing...D+6.
Posted by: JEM at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (o+SC1)


D+7

Posted by: Adam at October 10, 2012 05:41 PM (V6aL5)

187 Nordstrom said at the very end expressing his frustration at getting more security, "The Taliban is on the Inside of the Building"....
Posted by: Tami at October 10, 2012 05:07 PM (X6akg)

------------------>>>
Wow, that's going get him scratched off the State Department Christmas Winter Solstice list. Guess Nordstrom has no intention of being a scapegoat.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at October 10, 2012 05:41 PM (xFgmp)

188 This is like Watergate, except if I remember correctly no one died in Watergate.

Posted by: Christmasghost at October 10, 2012 05:42 PM (3A7PP)

189 Jay Carney should be exactly that after his tenure in the White House is over.

A carney.

asshole.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 05:42 PM (UK9cE)

190 When Joe goes on the attack he tends to have fact and presentation issues.

It might prove to be a good thing if he comes out of the gate swinging, he's more likely to punch himself in the nads.

Still better be prepared, though.

Posted by: JEM at October 10, 2012 05:42 PM (o+SC1)

191 Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: Random at October 10, 2012 05:42 PM (u8eBQ)

192 Yay, Jared Allen is on PTI.

He's a Moron for sure, albeit since getting hitched a domesticated Moron.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 05:42 PM (V/U0X)

193 Guess Nordstrom has no intention of being a scapegoat.

He'd better have contingency plans. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 05:44 PM (vbh31)

194 Can't touch this.

Posted by: M C Bama at October 10, 2012 05:44 PM (rlba9)

195 VP debate format will be sitting down around a table with moderator facing them across the table. Opening statements, two minutes to respond, then questions from the moderator.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 05:44 PM (P6QsQ)

196 Then look at the cached copy of the second link you find to the Dover Post. It's from May 4, 2010. It doesn't have that photo, but you can see Biden and the officer at the event together with their chairs as in the photo.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 10, 2012 05:40 PM (h9gW0)

--Are you talking about the one where Slow Joe is copping a feel on a cop? I downloaded and saved that one when it came out and posted on FB 2 years ago.

Posted by: logprof at October 10, 2012 05:44 PM (V/U0X)

197 I've been wondering through this last couple of years with the Turkish election, the arab spring the (MB) and libya-syria.. where have the saudi's been through all of this?

Posted by: willow at October 10, 2012 05:44 PM (hX8cq)

198 Benghazi’s Intensifying Blame Game- http://bit.ly/W2jDW6

"...Nordstrom detailed two phone calls he had with Charlene Lamb, a deputy
assistant secretary of state working in the diplomatic security bureau. 'In those conversations I recall I was specifically told you cannot
request an extension of the SST,' Nordstrom said, referring to the
so-called Site Security Team, made up of former U.S. military personnel. 'In the first case in February, we felt strongly about the need for
that and requested it anyway.'"

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 05:44 PM (YjDyJ)

199
Could this guy have a more perfect name than "Carney"?

Well, sure he could, but the rest are not suitable for family audiences.

Posted by: Meremortal, drumming fingers on the table at October 10, 2012 05:45 PM (1Y+hH)

200 "not concerned about Martha Radditz. As long as we are able to get our alotted time explaining our point of view, we're confident she'll be fair."

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at October 10, 2012 05:46 PM (P6QsQ)

201 btw, the AP's story on the hearings is that everything was okay as planned, but those crafty jihadis had a much better plan that we just couldn't have foreseen. Lying useless suckers of cock.

Now watch me pull a rabbit out of this ass!

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 05:46 PM (ccXZP)

202 two minutes to respond, then questions from the moderator

Or accusations made by the moderator, depending on who is being addressed.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 10, 2012 05:46 PM (vbh31)

203 Nood

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 05:46 PM (GEICT)

204 More from the link @198:

"Lamb acknowledged under questioning that she had urged Nordstrom not to
request more security personnel. 'Personally I would not support it,'
said Lamb. 'We had been training local Libyans for a year.' She added, 'With due respect, they were in Tripoli they were not in Benghazi, it
would not have made any difference in Benghazi.'"

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at October 10, 2012 05:47 PM (YjDyJ)

205
"btw, the AP's story on the hearings is that everything was okay as planned, but those crafty jihadis had a much better plan that we just couldn't have foreseen."

An attack. Unexpectedly, on 9/11.Whoa...who ARE those guys?

Posted by: Meremortal, channels Sundance at October 10, 2012 05:48 PM (1Y+hH)

206 Video of Biden prepping for debate.

http://tinyurl.com/8pew6wx

Posted by: Othered at October 10, 2012 05:49 PM (EuW9O)

207 Fuck.them.

Posted by: Mike Dukakis at October 10, 2012 05:49 PM (GvYeG)

208 Anticipated response from Biden when asked about Benghazi -
I remember watching on my I-Padwhen Bill Clinton went on a podcast in 1990 to reassure people that we were doing everything we could to have our people released from the Iranian embassy. President Obama has done a similar thingby assuring to the people that we are doing everything we canabout Benghazi.

Posted by: polynikes at October 10, 2012 05:50 PM (m2CN7)

209 logprof: Yep, that one.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 10, 2012 05:52 PM (h9gW0)

210
If Hillary is serious about not running in 2016 (she has repeatedly said she will not run), then she has a perfect opportunity now to throw Obama under the bus and redeem her reputation. All she has to say is that Barry ordered the "normalization" which explains the security rebuffs, and that Barry told her that he had info from some other agency that the video was the cause, thus explaining why she went along with him and publicly blamed the video. Who knows, this might have been what actually happened. I'm not trying to defend Hillary here, no big fan of hers, but I'd love to see her stick it to O.

I heard on TV earlier today that Hillary and Barry are meeting today. Sounds like they (or just Barry) want to get their stories straight.
Posted by: Mayday at October 10, 2012 05:36 PM (F3s39)



Hillary cannot stick it to Obama. If she does, she blows up the African American - Democrat alliance. That destroys the democrat party if they leave.

Posted by: rd does not believe the MSM at October 10, 2012 05:52 PM (zLp5I)

211 130 Obama attended the wedding of the VP Debate Moderator.



Even though they are divorced now, isn't the fact that Barry appointed the father of her son to the FCC a conflict of interest?

Posted by: toby928 beating memes to death since 2006 at October 10, 2012 05:26 PM (QupBk)


I can see it now-

"This question is for the President. What is your stance regarding the European practice of appointing Communications Commission directors who aren't disgusting pigs who leave the toilet seat up, fart in bed, and remain emotionally unavailable?"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 10, 2012 05:53 PM (SY2Kh)

212
"President Obama has done a similar thingby assuring to the people that we are doing everything we canabout Benghazi."

Yep. got on his Blackberry right there on 14 and texted "Handle it."

Posted by: Meremortal, teeing it up at October 10, 2012 05:53 PM (1Y+hH)

213 Hillary cannot stick it to Obama. If she does, she blows up the African American - Democrat alliance. That destroys the democrat party if they leave.

BS Hispanics are taking over at the head of the Democrat Table

More of them Than Blacks

Posted by: Evilpens at October 10, 2012 05:54 PM (ck76k)

214 Tapper: Hey, Didn't The Administration Sort of Shoot First And Aim Later?

Carney: Well, no, because HEY, LOOK!!! A BIG YELLOW BIRD!!!!

Posted by: Socratease at October 10, 2012 05:55 PM (iVBDH)

215 what are the odds that Carney will later try to make some money by "writing" a book in which he talks about how much he hated this job? Weasel.

Posted by: mallfly at October 10, 2012 05:55 PM (bJm7W)

216 i believe this issue is a winner from here on out, and i don't even think most of america knows that we lost an ambassador in a smouldering pile of ash that was the "interim" benghazi consulate after being refused security detail by the state department bureaucrats (at a minimum). i see this as a debate trump card.

for example, the democrats are convinced that romney lied on something or other so naturally obama and biden are going to try to trot this out during the debates. the response should be, "this administration is an expert on lies and distortions, we still don't have the truth out of benghazi, but we know it isn't what the president and state department were saying a few weeks ago."

another retort, to borrow mark steyn's wit, should be to any draconian cuts accusation "this administration didn't have the funds to secure our overseas embassies, and that takes precedence over subsidies to sesame street, which is essentially a nonprofit disney."

debates should absolutely hammer this home, bring any ridiculous accusation back to this administration's lies and failures on benghazi.



Posted by: matt foley at October 10, 2012 05:55 PM (bY+Nu)

217
Just realized why he has to have a Blackberry.

Denounced.

Posted by: Meremortal, raaa..... at October 10, 2012 05:55 PM (1Y+hH)

218 I just want to go over there and start bombing shit

Posted by: Maximus at October 10, 2012 05:56 PM (Z45W7)

219 My money is on Jarrett. The nitwits that made up the obama for senate votes would believe anything this regine told them. With the cover o the MSM lies are just nuances of their vocabulary. They are not use to being questioned.

Posted by: Buffalobob at October 10, 2012 05:58 PM (x+7qA)

220
"I just want to go over there and start bombing shit"

Aim carefully. We just put boots on the ground in Jordan. I'm still working on why.

WMD concern in Syria?

Posted by: Meremortal, raaa..... at October 10, 2012 05:59 PM (1Y+hH)

221 Carney is a D-Bag

Posted by: Jay at October 10, 2012 06:00 PM (OCPfs)

222
Carney is a D-Bag

Official alien report, Stardate 2012:

Carney (D): Ugly Bag of Mostly Feces.

Posted by: Meremortal, raaa..... at October 10, 2012 06:03 PM (1Y+hH)

223 First.....does Carney think we are ALL idiots?

Second....Does Ms. Lamb (I'm saying this through gritted teeth) think the deaths of four people are somehow a small miscalculation since the "right amount of people" were stationed as security.

God, I want to slap the shit out of both of them!

Posted by: kawfytawk at October 10, 2012 06:14 PM (JWLqy)

224 There are 4 entirely different issues here:

1) The Attack (Religion of Peace)
2) The Security (Obama Admin)
3) The Scapegoating of Nakoula (Obama & the Media)
4) The Crucifixion/Martyrdom of Nakoula (Obama, the Media, Leftist "Intellectuals")

Obama/Leftists prefer to talk about the issues as they are ranked (preferably only number 1, if that fails 1&2, and if that fails 1&2&3).

If they are forced to talk about 1&2, they will attempt to use the "naivete" defense.

They really don't want to talk about 1&2&3 because there is no defense for 3. (Let alone 4).

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at October 10, 2012 06:16 PM (boomF)

225 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 06:28 PM (6o4Fb)

226 I mentioned in an earlier thread, it may be that this was an attempt to erode the 1st Amendment in the same way F F was an attempt to erode the second amendment. Wouldn't put it past this crew

Posted by: artemis at October 10, 2012 06:36 PM (2XMD1)

227 Is anyone else sick to death of the term "unacceptable"? It's the first word out of any administration spokesworm's mouth whenever there's a disaster. What does it mean to say that the Benghazi attacks were "not acceptable"? How are you "not accepting" them? If you haven't sent bombers and heavily armed men over there to drag suspects out of their hideyholes and shoot them if they resist, YOU'VE ACCEPTED IT. There's no other way of interpreting your actions. Nobody cares that on the inside you're mentally stomping your foot and shaking your curly locks in rejection - all that matters is what's going on on the outside. When Americans have been murdered, I want something more than the sound of a prissy old fart declaring that his steak is overdone and unacceptable.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at October 10, 2012 06:53 PM (FkH4y)

228 This administration has been shooting blanks for quite a while now.


And I mean that in the nicest possible way. ;-)

Posted by: dissent555 at October 10, 2012 07:09 PM (yR6A1)

229 Hillary cannot stick it to Obama. If she does, she blows up the African
American - Democrat alliance. That destroys the democrat party if they
leave.
--
If Hillary isn't planning to run in 2016 it's not an issue. She'd be deft in throwing O under the bus to vindicate herself and this isn't a racially charged issue. I don't seem black Dems refusing to vote for whatever Dem runs in 2016 because Hillary saved herself during Benghazigate four years earlier. If O isn't re-elected in 2012 their ire will be directed at raaaaacism, or the evil GOP, or Mitt, or all of the above.

Posted by: Mayday at October 10, 2012 07:13 PM (F3s39)

230 One other aspect of the Behghazi fiasco being overlooked now is why did this attack happen? There was some chatter about it being revenge over one of our drone hits. And why was Amb Stephens in particular targeted? Yes, he was the Amb and it was 9/11 which is symbolic and they hate Americans, yadda, yadda, yadda, but why him, why there, why then? Was he even the main target? We have Amb and people in a lot of unstable countries (that we didn't help "liberate"). AQ chose this time and place for an attack and we don't know anything about why, or the events the preceded 9/11/12.

Posted by: Mayday at October 10, 2012 07:19 PM (F3s39)

231 Well, of course, their requests for subsidies was not Paraguayan in and
of it is as it were the United States government would never have if the
president, our president, had not and as far as I know that's the way
it will always be. Is that clear?

Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at October 10, 2012 07:26 PM (xUI0P)

232 231 - Emmit Fitz-Hume as you point out was far more articulate than Carney.

M..icro..phone... cutting... out .....lunch time so I must go.

Posted by: bobbymike at October 10, 2012 07:52 PM (wJSZn)

233 Love Jake Tapper.

Jay Carney can not lie without reading his notes to parse just the right words.

I was waiting for laughter to erupt in the press room, or Jay's pants to spontaneously burst into flame.

You lie!

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at October 10, 2012 10:00 PM (baL2B)






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