VJina: Feminist Website Declares Famous WWII Kiss, Between Sailor and Nurse, a "Sexual Assault"

The most famous V-J day picture in the world.

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…Far from being a kiss between a loving couple, we learn that George and Greta were perfect strangers. We learn that George was drunk, and that Greta had no idea of his presence, until she was in his arms, with his lips on hers… It seems pretty clear, then, what George had committed was sexual assault.”

Many movements or eras -- most, probably -- enter a decadent phase at some point. I don't know of a textbook definition of a decadent phase, but my off-the-cuff attempt is this:

a period marked by extremely minor variations on art or thought that has gone before, of recycling, of re-using old tropes rather than creating new ideas;

a period marked not by accumulation or creation of capital, whether monetary capital or capital of another kind, such as intellectual or influential or philosophical, but instead marked by the use/spending of previously acquired capital without replenishing same;

a period of sloth, whether sloth in intellect or sloth in industriousness, and a concomitant lowering of standards so that what little new work is done can be credited as good, important, or noble, albeit by a greatly reduced standard;

a period without vitality;

and, ultimately,

a period marked by inward-turning self-indulgence, of whimsy, of juvenalia and "childish things," and a focus on trivia.

I am not an unbiased critic of feminism, or at least "feminism" as is practiced by the the successors of the Frankfurt School on the left.

Nevertheless, I think it's difficult to argue against the point that feminism -- whatever it was in the past -- has entered a long, dreary Decadent Phase, largely focused on the past glories of a long-faded golden age, now rehashing the same three or four themes endlessly into (very slightly) different configurations.

There's a woman I admire for her smarts. I won't say who. I find her to be a lively and interesting thinker, and funny.

But I frequently hear this woman ask "what do my very minor, trivial fashion choices say about me As A Woman (capitalization implicit)?" and "are my occasional attempts to appear attractive a capitulation to the Male Gaze?" and other such absurdities.

In this particular woman's case, she asks these questions archly, with a bit of ironic distance, so that she is parodying herself at the same time she asks these questions. Nevertheless, these questions occur with such frequency I am reasonably confident that, while she is sort of goofing on herself for thinking about such things, she does think about such things, and not just occasionally, but rather a lot.

Which I consider something of a shame. I don't care about her politics, really. But it does strike me that a bright, insightful woman is inflicting something akin to intellectual lobotomization on herself, filling her head with constant trivialities.

I don't hate this woman. I rather like her. I'm a bit of a fan. I actually feel somewhat bad for her. A not-inconsequential portion of her mind is constantly being used to chew over absurdities of a quasi-religious nature. Is the fact that I have chosen to leave my bra-stap visible beneath my t-shirt a betrayal of the feminist ideal? What does my exposed bra-strap say about me as a person? What messages am I sending to the world? What philosophical implications flow from this casually exposed bra-strap?

I think most people would concede that the question "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" is a terrific waste of time that accomplishes nothing except, perhaps, distracting the mind from more important questions with more tangible implications.

Which is how I feel about feminism (Frankfurt School version). A philosophy -- and feminism is put forth as a philosophy -- should engender interesting questions, further avenues of exploration, rather than a stultifying and stupefying its adherents in a warm bath of easy, predictable answers.

And not just easy answers -- but utterly inconsequential ones.

In this feminism seems to me to be a flight from the world, not an engagement with it. Just as monks cloistered themselves away to ponder upon pins and dancing angels,* so too do Frankfurt Feminists cloister themselves -- or at least large parts of their intellects -- in monastaries of the mind, protected from challenge, relentlessly reinforced in the same old dogmas.

There is also a Geek factor to this. One bad habit of geeks -- they have good habits, but some bad ones as well -- is that they create for themselves a very narrow and inconsequential area of expertise -- Transformers, comic books, Star Trek, what have you -- and spend overmuch time in this psychological Woobie.

It's comforting to revisit and revisit and revisit again the same well-known corridors of information. I keep saying that there should be a word for this phenomenon -- preferably German, I think -- to describe "the pleasure one feels by hearing something one already knows to be true."

This is why Shark Week is so popular. People who watch Shark Week already pretty much know everything they're going to see in Shark Week. They know, for example, the Latin nomination for Great White Shark. But it gives them pleasure to hear the words they already know -- Carcharodon carcharias. There's just a comforting pleasure that is hard to describe in "learning" things one has already learned.

It's reassuring. And I think it's also falsely complimentary. When we hear something we already know, a sweet-sounding bell rings in our head-- Pinggg. "I already knew that. I'm knowledgeable. I'm covered on the 'knowing-stuff' front."

There is nothing wrong with this, exactly. All humans have this, I think, to one extent or another.

But I would contend that when a philosophy, or an alleged philosophy, is chiefly made up of the "philosophical" equivalent of Shark Week (Shark Week for the Vagina?), it has ceased being a philosophy and simply become a crutch, an escape. A Woobie.

There is no doubt that the Frankfurt Feminists know everything there is to know about the Male Gaze, the Vagina's para-mind, the philosophical implications of eyeshadow, and the New Holocaust known as "slut-shaming."

Just as there is no doubt that a Trekkie knows precisely where the elevators on the Enterprise run, to what decks.

But Trekkies generally do not call their obsession area of interest a philosophy or a politics. Generally they acknowledge, abashedly, the silliness of it, and will confess, if asked sharply, "Sure, there are more important things."

As humans we are not required to delve into the Most Important Things at all times. Escape is an underrated thing. A simple pleasure is no sin.

Nevertheless, a fundamentally trivial pursuit ought not be elevated to the plane of a supposedly rigorous philosophy which substantially defines the core of one's intellectual being.

We chuckle at people who wear Star Trek uniforms on the street, but when women dress as Singing Vaginas it is put to us, quite seriously, that we are to take this as a Political Statement.

It's not. It's arrogant geekery, the geekery of the geek who doesn't realize his passion is, while understandable enough on a human level, rather silly.

This is my problem with currently-configured Frankfurt Feminism. I don't fear it as an ideology. Just as I don't fear the Trekkie ideology.

But when I see a woman whom I rather like and respect filling her head with such nonsense -- thinking about Gender Issues, as it were, once every seven seconds -- I feel bad that she's been conned, and that her brain is simply not firing on all cylinders, clogged, as it is, with bubblegum and sillystring.

I guess it's not really my place to tell anyone else "You can be more than this. You can cast your gaze further than these comforting, but cramped, nearby shores."

So I won't tell them this.

But this is what I think about them. I think it's frankly sad, and I think it's actually a betrayal of women to fill their heads with this Cosmo Confuscianism -- and to insist to them that they're Not Really Women unless they are constantly deranging their thoughts with sabotaging their intellects with Meditations Upon a Bra-Strap.

I don't find it so terrible when I see dumb women do this -- fine. Dumb things for dumb people. Fools need their foolscap, too.

But when I see smart women so trapped in trivia, I do cringe a little. And I do nod -- very condescendingly -- when I hear assertions like "I am a serious, intelligent woman, and therefore I will now write about the silliest bubblegum mock-politics imaginable for the next hour, or the next ten years of my career."

Rape: The easy rejoinder to this, which I of course perfectly predictable and perfectly silly (and hence a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about), is "You're calling rape a trivium?!?!"

Um, no. Of course not. What I'm saying is that Frankfurt Feminists are connecting fundamentally unserious things to a serious thing through convoluted logic in order to call the unserious things "serious."

A bad sort of Star Trek Geek might attempt to defend his obsession by claiming that "Star Trek teaches us about war, about fundamental truths of humanity, about philosophy, and about man's ultimate destiny in the stars," or some crap.

Thus he will attempt to link his trivia about Yeoman Rand's first name to something weighty and with legitimate import.

But we reject this. Knowing that Rand's first name is "Janice" has nothing to do with that other stuff.

And very silly things -- fashion choices, art fancies, and the like -- are being invested with a false import by constantly linking them, somehow, after a couple of tendentious claims and a few logical leaps, to rape.

There was actually a Star Trek, or two, that had some rape in it. Or rape-like stuff, like Kirk and Uhura being forced into sexual contact against their will. By uh, mind control.

I can't play the Rape Card, though, to insist that this makes Star Trek of serious importance.

And yet this is the method by which all of these fundamentally unserious things in Frankfurt Feminism are invested with false seriousness -- tie them to rape (or... metaphorical rape), and Bob's Your Uncle. Now it's serious.

Headline Theft: "VJina" swiped from dang(c), in the comments. It's too good.

* I realize monks did more than this, including charitable works and keeping the enlightenment alive during the Dark Ages as well as pondering much more relevant theosophical questions. This is what we call a partially accurate metaphor. Most metaphors are only partially accurate. Only A = A. Forget it, he's rolling.

Posted by: Ace at 02:08 PM



Comments

1 Wow, this is a book, Ace. Let me schedule some time to read it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 02:09 PM (98+n7)

2 Wtf Ace? You been into the Val U Rite?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:11 PM (da5Wo)

3 BUT WE MUST EMBRACE OUR MUSLIM FRIENDS! THEY ARE CULTURALLY ENRICHED!

Posted by: FemiNazi at October 10, 2012 02:11 PM (F6KtL)

4 Holy crap! We don't have time for a movie review today - need more dueling poll posts.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 02:11 PM (cQpP1)

5 Shorter Ace:

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Posted by: rockmom at October 10, 2012 02:11 PM (aBlZ1)

6 George was on a date with a lady who later became his wife She can be seen in the background. She also thought it was funny.

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 02:11 PM (R18D0)

7 V-E Day was a natural consequence of Mitt Romney's War On Women. Or something.

Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 02:11 PM (FcR7P)

8 Don't worry, Ace.

I'm pretty sure that woman you were talking about doesn't like you anyway.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (TP7eP)

9 Liberals will NOT REST until they've absolutely fucked everything they can possibly fuck up and then some.

It's a disease that the WHO needs to address, NOW.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (UK9cE)

10 Next thing you know they'll be telling us that the Rape of Nanking was rape.

Posted by: Average Joe at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (bN5ZU)

11
It would've been okay if Greta was wearing a vulva costume.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (jUytm)

12 So Ace has a thing for Pelosi?

Or is it Leia. It is Leia you dirty little ewok. Just because you had her at spearpoint that one time doesn't make this 50 Shades of Brown or whatever.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (t06LC)

13 OK, I read the post (skimmed it, I don't have an hour to spare). Ace, my advice is steer clear of the woman. Any woman that insecure is nothing but trouble.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (cQpP1)

14 Plus what were the popular names for the A bombs dropped on Japan to end the Pacific war? 'Fat Man'. 'Little Boy'. Total sexism and rapey rape-rape! I'm filled with rage!

PS. Please send grant money!

Posted by: Dr. Adrena Pillock-Harridan, Ph.D And Really Smart Too! at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (DLu2s)

15 Any natural interaction between the sexes must be a literates in order for the feminist to feel comfortable. This is not new, nor surprising.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (I2LwF)

16 I never realized that there was any significance to a bra strap other than holding up titties.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (YdQQY)

17
Many movements or eras -- most, probably -- enter a decadent phase at some point. I don't know of a textbook definition of a decadent phase, but my off-the-cuff attempt is this:

a period marked by extremely minor variations on art or thought that has gone before, of recycling, of re-using old tropes rather than creating new ideas;

a period marked not by accumulation or creation of capital, whether monetary capital or capital of another kind, such as intellectual or influential or philosophical, but instead marked by the use/spending of previously acquired capital without replenishing same;

a period of sloth, whether sloth in intellect or sloth in industriousness, and a concomitant lowering of standards so that what little new work is done can be credited as good, important, or noble, albeit by a greatly reduced standard;

a period without vitality;

and, ultimately,

a period marked by inward-turning self-indulgence, of whimsy, of juvenalia and "childish things," and a focus on trivia.



Longest. Ace. Sentence. Ever.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:13 PM (jUytm)

18 If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, just make an ugly woman your wife. From my personal point of view, get an ugly girl to marry you.

Posted by: Gary U.S. Bonds at October 10, 2012 02:14 PM (l3vZN)

19 Dump her, ace.

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 02:14 PM (N/1Dm)

20 Okay, you all know what I'm gonna say!

Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at October 10, 2012 02:14 PM (DLu2s)

21 Here's an interview with the nurse. She seems pretty shaken up about the whole thing. Um, not really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rytyx9GEKWI


Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 02:14 PM (R18D0)

22 Shark Week is a funny euphemism for "the ladytimes."

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 10, 2012 02:14 PM (Jm7mj)

23 BTW, that couple there in Time Square have given many interviews post WWII. And I am sure the lady has never considered it sexual assault.


When stupid feminists do this kind of shit they trivialize real sexual assault.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 02:15 PM (YdQQY)

24 This, like most sociology and other soft liberal arts is bullshit, and should be regarded as such.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 10, 2012 02:15 PM (t06LC)

25
I never realized that there was any significance to a bra strap other than holding up titties.


Showing it off reminds the Male Gaze that there are titties. Then the Gaze goes looking for them.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at October 10, 2012 02:15 PM (4+LTj)

26 They know, for example, the Latin nomination for Great White Shark. But it gives them pleasure to hear the words they already know -- Carcharodon carcharias. There's just a comforting pleasure that is hard to describe in "learning" things one has already learned.
--
I believe true joy is when one says the latin name out loud just before it is spoken on the television , just to prove superior intelligence.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 02:15 PM (cQpP1)

27 I can kind of relate to that sailor.

Can't wait until I visit the next diner....

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 10, 2012 02:16 PM (xvtYZ)

28 >>a focus on trivia

I'd like to say that when people call a kiss *A Sexual Assult* that they make it harder to talk about real instances of sexual assult and so on.

But then I remember Whoopi saying "it wasn't rape rape" and I remember they will say any damn lie they feel like to fit the moment.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 10, 2012 02:16 PM (SUKHu)

29 Great stuff, Ace.

I could only muster an eye-roll.

Posted by: moviegique at October 10, 2012 02:16 PM (kNN2d)

30 vic

exactly

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at October 10, 2012 02:16 PM (j1z2L)

31 This post is rape. Just because you hate sex is no reason to control my vajayjay and abortion access.

Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (bN5ZU)

32 well, we now all know how all those hours not watching porn were spent, writing that post.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (Vk2CC)

33 Dump her, ace.

I think the post is saying she said no. Hence the disappearance of the chicken.

Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (FcR7P)

34 >>>I believe true joy is when one says the latin name out loud just before it is spoken on the television , just to prove superior intelligence.

Ah, true. but most pleasurable things are marked by both anticipation and actual reception.

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (LCRYB)

35 Isn't it strange that some feminists presume to tell other women whether or not they have been raped?

"Oh, yes you were raped!"

"No, really, it was just a kiss. It was exciting times!"

"Rape."

Posted by: runninrebel at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (N/1Dm)

36 @16
Titties. Now there is something worth talking about. How bout a Christina Hendricks post? Kate Upton? I'll settle for Kate Beckinsale...

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 10, 2012 02:18 PM (t06LC)

37 A woman with an exposed bra strap showing is like a gigantic neon sign to a pair of male eyes. No matter how innocuous it appears, the man's eyes will find it, study it, ponder what the rest of it looks like, ponder what the tits inside said bra look like, and file it away for later memory-assisted fapping, all in under 0.2 nanoseconds.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)

38 Vagina: A Biography From the Outside Looking In.

Posted by: Fritz at October 10, 2012 02:18 PM (vm7ot)

39 The worst part is that he nuked two Japanese cities just to give him an excuse.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 02:18 PM (Hx5uv)

40
Anyone else notice the striking similarities between this:

…Far from being a kiss between a loving couple, we learn that George and Greta were perfect strangers. We learn that George was drunk, and that Greta had no idea of his presence, until she was in his arms, with his lips on hers… It seems pretty clear, then, what George had committed was sexual assault.”

and how the Left describes the European colonization of America?

No, no, Columbus was an evil imperialist conquistador who raped this land and stole it from the natives!!

Just like George the sailor!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:18 PM (jUytm)

41 Who cares what this feminist thinks?
We have more important things to attend to today, like catching Hillary Clinton in a huge lie over the Libya security situation. Who ordered that? I haven't watched the hearings, I'm listening to Rush.

Posted by: CarolT at October 10, 2012 02:18 PM (z4WKX)

42 Check out the gang-rape smile on the sailor on the left.

Posted by: Amanda Marcotte at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (bN5ZU)

43 BTW Ace, that photo is from VJ day, not VE day.

Posted by: Vic at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (YdQQY)

44 Ah, true. but most pleasurable things are marked by both anticipation and actual reception.
Posted by: ace at October 10, 2012 02:17 PM (LCRYB)
--
Does this relate to the missing chicken?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (cQpP1)

45
meanwhile, polanski actually rapes an underage girl and that is hunky-dory.
I can't help but think that any person that sees this as sexual assault is viewing the world through a "military men are bad" perspective.
Then again, in todays day and age you probably do get arrested if you plant a wet one on an unsuspecting lady in most circumstances.

Posted by: california red at October 10, 2012 02:19 PM (Ho3p+)

46 You forgot the phrase, "God didn't love me enough to make me pretty."

Please remember to consult the style guide.

Posted by: fluffy, pedantic dick at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (O6q63)

47 It's comforting to revisit and revisit and revisit again the same
well-known corridors of information. I keep saying that there should be
a word for this phenomenon -- preferably German, I think -- to describe
"the pleasure one feels by hearing something one already knows to be
true."


I think there really is a word for this. I just don't know any German.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (GQ8sn)

48 There's a woman I admire for her smarts. I won't say who. I find her to be a lively and interesting thinker, and funny."

$10 says its LauraW

Posted by: AndrewsDad at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (C2//T)

49 As somebody alluded to at Riehl World, let's hope somebody gives the gals at Feministing the lowdown on how the valiant soldiers of the Worker's and People's Red Army celebrated the fall of Berlin.

Hint: it involved rape. Lots and lots of rape. Lots of murder and suicide after the rape, too.

But yeah, let's beat up on the guy who just realized he isn't gonna get shipped over to die invading Japan for getting frisky.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (DLu2s)

50 Woobie. I had to look that one up.
Good post. Loved the Trekkie analogy.
Dozens of women will not sleep well tonight, wondering if they are now the object of your pontification.
Lamentations.

Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (BuYeH)

51
These people are insidious. They claim to be the defenders of women, and yet they aresimply hacks looking for any excuse to get attention.

In the process, they're inadvertantlywatering-down the meaning of terms like "sexual assault" and "rape", which is very bad for women.

You could say the same of the race-baiters, who have turned the word "racist" into a catch-all punchline.

Posted by: Optimizer at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (As94z)

52 Feminuts saying this picture depicts 'assault' is ridiculous. What's also ridiculous is giving this any credibility whatsoever by responding to it with a blogpost of Tolstoyan proportions.


let's get back to how obama sucks balls and is gonna lose like obama at a debate in Nov

Posted by: Jones in CO at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (8sCoq)

53 Sexual Assault? The deuce you say!

Posted by: Dominque Strauss-Kahn at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (NnGzp)

54 See, I go one level beyond irritation at the navel gazing. I could accept it as something to be mocked if, if those same "feminists" weren't actively campaigning against the actual real life victims of sexism in the Muslim world .

Debate the politics of your tits all you want, but don't tell me that wearing a black pillow case is freedom.

Posted by: Lauren at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (wDCpR)

55 Twelve minutes and CAC hasn't stomped on this with a two-liner? Must be a cease-fire in effect.

Posted by: t-bird at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (FcR7P)

56 The solution is for men to flaunt their bra straps, and why shouldn't we have bras for our moobs?

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (SDkq3)

57 The old lady in the background to the right of the rape scene - she likes to watch.

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (R18D0)

58 >>>BTW Ace, that photo is from VJ day, not VE day.

Well I knew it was ONE of them!!!

That's something!

Posted by: ace at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (LCRYB)

59 Okay, let's try this again without the autocorrect:

15 Any natural interaction between the sexes must be obliterated in order for the feminist to feel comfortable. This is not new, nor surprising.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 02:21 PM (I2LwF)

60 "Gang rape smile".

shit

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Posted by: nhwingnut at October 10, 2012 02:22 PM (DhgCF)

62 The problem is that the FemNazi's (oddly apt name given the topic at hand) have no sense of what a cathartic moment is. This was a cathartic moment. No one was injured (even psychologically). Life goes on, it's that simple!

Posted by: tsrblke (Work) at October 10, 2012 02:22 PM (Vt/hU)

63 "BTW Ace, that photo is from VJ day, not VE day"

Can't be. VJ stands for vagina juice, and her vagina wouldn't be juicy if this were a legitimate rape.

Posted by: Rep. Akin at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (bN5ZU)

64 I didn't realize there was a new Star Trek movie out.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (FHR+k)

65 The real question is, why has Ace embargoed the James O'Keefe/Project Veritas reporting?

What socialist motive does he have for refusing to cover it?

What doesn't he want his readers to know?

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (Y5EgQ)

66 The most famous V-J day picture in the world.

For a minute there I thought you said "V-J-J".

Posted by: Sharon Stone at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (FcR7P)

67 I was going to insert a joke about an Avengers movie review, but I couldn't quite connect A to Z.

Posted by: Max Power at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (q177U)

68 What utterly joyless people these are.

Posted by: huerfano at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (bAGA/)

69 When I heard that Pearl Harbor was attacked, I wondered what she was wearing. Probably deserved it.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 02:23 PM (Hx5uv)

70 By the way, there are analogues between this level of minutia-obsession via a via feminism and that of those of us who are regulars here.

This is the ultimate echo chamber for the most part.

Which is not to say this is bad; id take one moron over ten million feminists in any contest not involving mindless bitching or peeing sitting down. just don't overlook the similarities.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (I2LwF)

71 I was involved in an argument about this on the book of faces that ended in a long (oh God I'm using a term of the man-oriented manocracy) series of fart jokes.

I suggest we be as dismissive here. This is silly bullshit used to justify the existence of feminist theory.

Posted by: Karusky at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (dKyuh)

72 VJina Day! YEAH!

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (R18D0)

73 We're all being jerked around by this post.

Posted by: wooga at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (vjyZP)

74 Old joke alert:

Q: how many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: that's not funny.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (I2LwF)

75 I guess they would consider that kiss between Adrian Brody and Halle Berry at the Oscars that year he went up and grabbed her after he won the award - that's sexual assault, too.

Posted by: sydney jane at October 10, 2012 02:25 PM (zYWPO)

76 These people are insidious. They claim to be the defenders of women, and yet they aresimply hacks looking for any excuse to get attention.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 10, 2012 02:20 PM (As94z)
--
I see it as the true menace of deconstruction. They aren't so much minimizing true assault as they are undermining males, while at the same time undermining our culture. Yes, this is a famous picture, but I am sure there are other similar pictures which don't show men in uniform who have just defeated an enemy of the West. I see multiple levelsof attack.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 10, 2012 02:25 PM (cQpP1)

77 VJina Day? Eww. Icky!

Posted by: Barry Seotoro from Occidental College at October 10, 2012 02:25 PM (N/1Dm)

78 Okay.



So now I'm going to look at Stacy Dash's titties while I hum "The Battle Hymn of the Republic."

Posted by: ErikW at October 10, 2012 02:26 PM (SH7rQ)

79 Feminism isn't a 'flight from the world', because it has been institutionalized and gotten untold thousands of unqualified, under-qualified, and less qualified women jobs and promotions.


Walk down the corridor of any faculty office area in any college...

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 10, 2012 02:26 PM (Dll6b)

80 I have been supporting myself since I was 18 years old and paid my own living expenses while going away to college. I have NEVER felt any affinity for the womyns lib movement. They seem to want women to view themselves as pathetic perpetual victims.

This whole "GOP War on Women" crap is just one more example. They think that if you work for the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church is good enough to provide you with health insurance, said insurance not covering the $9.50 per month cost of contraceptives, that that is a major political issue?

If you're so pathetic and useless that you can't manage to cover the cost of your birth control pills, go home and live with your mommy and daddy.

Or, tell the cheap bastard you're screwing to chip in for the pills.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 10, 2012 02:26 PM (l7/o3)

81 Damn Ace, you keyboard take Ex-Lax or sumpin' cuz your keyboard is shittin some words, there.

Posted by: CheshireLion at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (zNDIM)

82 The slut was asking for it, wearing all that white stuff.

That's what Greg told me after I finally got the butt plug out of his mouth.

Posted by: Greg's mom at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (wR+pz)

83
70
By the way, there are analogues between this level of minutia-obsession
via a via feminism and that of those of us who are regulars here.



This is the ultimate echo chamber for the most part.



Which is not to say this is bad; id take one moron over ten million
feminists in any contest not involving mindless bitching or peeing
sitting down. just don't overlook the similarities.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 02:24 PM (I2LwF)


I don't think that's entirely true Truman. Look at the flame wars we have around here. Do we all generally agree? Sure. But we have atheists and Christians here. We have FiCons and SoCons and everything in between. Like I said, we all generally fall under the same umbrella, but our opinions on topics vary.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (da5Wo)

84 >>We're all being jerked around by this post.

I'm refreshing the main page every 30 seconds and there are still not 3 new posts!!!!1!

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (SUKHu)

85 >>The most famous V-J day picture in the world.<<

What? Someone talking about Vajay's?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (xvtYZ)

86 She's worried that her fashion choices to attract men may say something about her intellectual prowess as a woman.

What does that say aboutmen who launch a thousand ships for a woman?

Posted by: polynikes at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (m2CN7)

87 Is Ace having an affair with Ann Althouse?

Because the woman Ace describes sounds exactly like that mashugana?

Posted by: General Woundwort at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (06lNq)

88 There's a big statue of "the kiss" in Sarasota at the marina entrance on Tamiami Trail

http://tinyurl.com/2acs6ma

Posted by: kbdabear at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (wwsoB)

89 Bra straps? I don't need no steenking bra straps to support my fantasies.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (isjdZ)

90
Shark Week for the Vagina?

Ummm...I'm going try that celibacy thing for the rest of the year, or until the thoughts such a phrase conjures up have been forgotten.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie ® at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (1hM1d)

91 You mean theological questions.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 10, 2012 02:28 PM (0Db2g)

92 Who knew that the day would come when Greg would take refuge in Rasmussen polls.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (98+n7)

93 If Romney has a five point lead in a sample which is D +8, all women will suffer horribly and probably die soon after he is elected


/


!

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (Dll6b)

94 I also see attempted strangulation, performing a tonsillectomy w/o a medical license and pick pocketing.

C'mon nags, throw the book at him!

Posted by: Nukie at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (4TBK2)

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (98+n7)

96 Have I slanted everything now?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (0Db2g)

97 And on the feminazis, my wife has stated her opinion on them and it's much the same as mine towards Bill O'Reilly's little catch phrase, "I don't need you watching out for me or speaking for me, I can take care of my damn self."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (da5Wo)

98 Plus, having been raised by a nurse (a lieutenant in the Army Air Force to boot), I can say with certainty if the young lady didn't want any part of this, the sailor would have been on the pavement writhing in pain.

Nurses back then knew ALL the places that hurt really, really bad if you grab, pinch, or stick your thumb in them just right. Some guys thought any babe within reach was for happytimes, and it was important to know how to discourage them quickly before the catheter went in.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (DLu2s)

99 See if that fixed it

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 10, 2012 02:29 PM (98+n7)

100 I guess they would consider that kiss between Adrian
Brody and Halle Berry at the Oscars that year he went up and grabbed
her after he won the award - that's sexual assault, too.

Posted by: sydney jane


No. Adrian
Brody wasn't a war mongering serviceman! First officer Fancy-Pants-and-Hat-Ensemble was trained to murder foreigners to death by killing them until they die!

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (R18D0)

101 ace, the types you describe sound like they might be suffering from overeducation. Most women I see are happily and proudly showing their shit regardless of age, race, or body type. I'm far removed from the academic and intellectual elites. (except for my cousin's fiancee who probably does go through those mental gyrations when she wears shoes that are something other than functional and sensible).

Posted by: kallisto at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (jm/9g)

102 Nice. Even Ace doesn't understand Pixy.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (da5Wo)

103
There's a woman I admire for her smarts. I won't say who. I find her to be a lively and interesting thinker, and funny.

But I frequently hear this woman ask "what do my very minor, trivial
fashion choices say about me As A Woman (capitalization implicit)?" and
"are my occasional attempts to appear attractive a capitulation to the
Male Gaze?" and other such absurdities.


Sorry, Ace, but she'll be boiling a rabbit on your stove very soon.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (UK9cE)

104 But you do have my pills with you, don't you? That's a requirement now.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (71LDo)

105 Liberals will NOT REST until they've absolutely fucked everything they can possibly fuck up and then some.

It's a disease that the WHO needs to address, NOW.


Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:12 PM (UK9cE)



Pete Townsend Roger Daltrey: What are we supposed to do about it?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (1Jaio)

106 Seems to have.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at October 10, 2012 02:30 PM (0Db2g)

107 Shark Week for the Vagina?

Vagina dentata.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 02:31 PM (WAOCR)

108 Feminism: why it's not your fault that you are fat and men find you unattractive

Posted by: PR at October 10, 2012 02:31 PM (KHo8t)

109 How cute. The feminists have jumped the shark, yet again. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Roy at October 10, 2012 02:31 PM (VndSC)

110 Ace, you're being way too nice.

Feminism is in the, "I take myself so seriously I've become a fucking joke and annoyance to 95% of the population" phase.

Fucking feminists...cringe-worthy to me as a woman.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at October 10, 2012 02:32 PM (g7vVd)

111 Al Gore reprised the sailor role in 2000 when he practically sucked Tipper's face off. Where was the outrage then?

Posted by: mark c at October 10, 2012 02:32 PM (hnhBR)

112 And, almost no one in the media, entertainment or news, ever questions these ridiculous statements made by "womyn" about how misused they are.

Why? Because your average celebrity is as stupid as your average womyn's libber.

Maybe that woman who is so offended at the idea of a sailor kissing a nurse, should review the number of men during WWII who died in action, were wounded, disabled, separated from their families for years, made sacrifices that women didn't have to make.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 10, 2012 02:32 PM (l7/o3)

113 There was actually a Star Trek, or two, that had some rape in it. Or
rape-like stuff, like Kirk and Uhura being forced into sexual contact
against their will.


Star Trek Nemesis.

Shinzon mind-rapes Troi.

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 02:32 PM (GQ8sn)

114 Is that a shark in your pants, or are you just glad to see me?

Lots of counter arguments here. The dressing down of society today compared to 50 years ago is commonly bemoaned. The bonfire of the vanities.......if a woman was President of the World, and she just found out the World Was Ending, she'd stop to check her hair-do before making any announcement.

I'd say that a woman's attachment to those 'trivialities' of look is drilled into their world view from a very young age. The joke rarely runs the other way of the woman impatiently waiting for the man to get ready.

Tell me about the last time you slowed down in the department store at the cosmetics counter, thinking "I wonder if I'm getting low on foundation?"

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 10, 2012 02:32 PM (ccXZP)

115 >>>>$10 says its LauraW

I'm not sure how much a hunchback cares about their appearance.

Posted by: taylork at October 10, 2012 02:33 PM (ppNDn)

116 Smart Military Blog? Yes!... Nicely done.

Posted by: The Turtle on the fence post at October 10, 2012 02:33 PM (HZCkA)

117 And calling a kiss "sexual assult" trivializes what women go through when they've been raped.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 10, 2012 02:33 PM (l7/o3)

118 Well she does have kind of a point. In nature , which the left claim holds all the answers, its the male of the species who are all spiffed up and showing their colors.

Posted by: polynikes at October 10, 2012 02:33 PM (m2CN7)

119 the same umbrella, but our opinions on topics vary.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:27 PM (da5Wo)


I agree with everything you say, but find your comment to be feckless, jejune, and less than sponge-worthy. Also, that North guy is equally feckless, jejune....

( / )

Posted by: Isaac Davis White at October 10, 2012 02:34 PM (Dll6b)

120 Feminists in the US are concerning themselves with a kiss, for God's sake, that occurred in the 1940s. Meanwhile, little girls are being shot in Muslim countries for learning to read. Also, tuck your bra strap in. Nobody needs to see your underwear.

Posted by: huerfano at October 10, 2012 02:34 PM (bAGA/)

121 You know who's a real feminist? Phyllis McAlpin Stewart Schlafly

Posted by: toby928© at October 10, 2012 02:34 PM (evdj2)

122
But I frequently hear this woman ask "what do my very minor, trivial fashion choices say about me As A Woman (capitalization implicit)?" and "are my occasional attempts to appear attractive a capitulation to the Male Gaze?" and other such absurdities><><<<<<<

No. She's fishing for a compliment. You should give her one.

Because later, when you're pounding her Squatch into Vagina Scaloppini, you'll experience the pleasure and fear that comes from banging a broad with that many daddy issues. You'll also learn that shame-tears can make a handy lubricant for Round Two.

I recommend that you do it. Only a woman who has been abandoned or neglected by daddy talks like that. Your penis will thank you, and you'll help her realize that the answer to all these questions she's looking for is: A Man.

Or she may pepper-spray you. It happens, sometimes.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 02:35 PM (oihrP)

123 Suddenly we have boots on the ground in Jordan. Must protect...something.

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 02:35 PM (1Y+hH)

124 And calling a kiss "sexual assult" trivializes what women go through when they've been raped.
Posted by: nerdygirl

You are assuming these feminists actually care about women.

Posted by: Roy at October 10, 2012 02:35 PM (VndSC)

125 Those feminists complain 'cause they've got too much time on their hands.

Time better spent getting in kitchen and making me a sandwich.

Posted by: Carl Brutananadilweski at October 10, 2012 02:35 PM (MhmxX)

126 Pretty simple. The war that had killed millions was over. Young kid now knows he will live, probably had a few drinks, she did too probably. They were both swept up in the moment. Big FUCKING deal. Gawd Feminists are a pain in the ass.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2012 02:35 PM (X7wAM)

127 All the issues in the world and someone has time to diatribe about THIS.

Not meant as an insult to Ace, but whomever has time to actually bring this topic up as something worth doing is pretty pathetic.

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:36 PM (UK9cE)

128 I rented Notorious which is one of my favorite movies by Hitchcock, starring Cary Grant and Ingrid Bergmann. It had this dumb commentary which was really some feminist broad reading her manifesto along with the movie. There was a scene where after coming on to Cary for have the movie, he finally grabs her and kisses her. The feminist describes this scene as violent. No, it wasn't violent. She signaled that she was interested in him and after he kisses her they cut to another location where she is smiling and telling him she is going to cook him a steak. I guess it was violent in professor lady's eyes because poor Cary didn't ask permission first.

Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 02:36 PM (guxHP)

129 Okay, I read the whole thing.

I know a woman who has taught for over thirty years. Intelligent, not only in the degrees she has earned, but in 'people skills'. Able to hit the Venn diagram of pleasing the students, the parents, and the administration, year after year. Which, believe me, is no small task.

An opening for Principal opened last year and I knew immediately that she would not be considered for the job. Oh, they would hire from within, I was sure -- and it now is decided.

But I knew this woman who was never considered for the job would not be even asked to interview. Why? Her looks, plain and simple. She has an hour-glass figure, dresses conservatively, yet her clothing still reveals that it is an actual woman underneath the clothing. Her hair style is attractive and slightly attention getting -- in that naturally curly hair is a rarity. The decision was that the woman who has taught fewer years, is at least fifty pounds overweight, has ratty looking hair, and looks like a fireplug with a dress over it is the 'serious' candidate.

So I can't agree that appearance is not important.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at October 10, 2012 02:36 PM (feFL6)

130 @122
I echo what EoJ says and will add this one bit: for God's sake man, whetever you do, don't go beta. Your shame tears will lubricate but for naught

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 10, 2012 02:37 PM (t06LC)

131 Nostalgia Chick?

Posted by: buster at October 10, 2012 02:37 PM (0AX8H)

132 121 Schlafly's consistently described herself as an opponent of feminism, which i give her props for as she doesn't see the need to try and co-opt leftist language

Posted by: JParker at October 10, 2012 02:37 PM (60GaT)

133 You really need to get away from the northeast for awhile, Ace. I think that's part of the problem. Go towards the middle of the country. We have real women out here.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 02:37 PM (isjdZ)

134 And note how the nurse has her arm dangling, not pushing him away and her feet are in the "obama" position, i.e., yielding.

Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 02:37 PM (guxHP)

135 I'm thinking that this girl really wouldn't like the movie 'The Quiet Man'.

Posted by: polynikes at October 10, 2012 02:38 PM (m2CN7)

136
bonk bonk against the headboard

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 02:38 PM (WAOCR)

137 Very interesting take, Ace. There is a -- I dunno -- caste? subset? -- who are referred to as Lipstick Feminists. The argument there is, Does shaving your legs and wearing eyeliner make you less of the definition of feminism, or does it just make you a fuckin' feminist who wears eyeliner?
It's this line of stupid wanking that leads to thesis papers and essay collections and editorial page ravings on, for example, how Carrie Bradshaw is Betty Freidan's worst nightmare writ large on a TV screen.
And this anti-"pretty" line of thought isn't confined to the biddies of the movement. A surprising number of high school and college girls find Sex and the City to be a fine example of anti-feminism: those four women liking sex, looking for a man in their lives, hoping the next one is husband material -- why, that's setting the movement back to Donna Reed & Betty Crocker days!!
And thus you have women like this one you admire, Ace, trying to burnish her fem street cred by sending up one of the very things that separates her from Teh Mens. This, just so all those other feminists understand that SHE understands that bra strap-exhibiting and OPI nail polish are just part of a facade that she doesn't really buy into.
*You* think it's bizarre? try being in the same chromo group as these dingbats.

Posted by: wankette at October 10, 2012 02:39 PM (qNhTJ)

138 Part of what it boils down to is that most feminists (not all) wish they were "raped" in such a manner (though to stipulate not actually raped)

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 10, 2012 02:39 PM (t06LC)

139 Whew. Finally.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 10, 2012 02:39 PM (cVfX0)

140 The problem for thefeminists is that they won the war, and they really don't know what to do with themselves.Instead of moving on and accomplishing something else that is worthwhilethey pick away at trivialities.

I'm sure even the moron horde can pick out plenty of examples of people who have done the same thing with an accomplishment, not know that it is time to get off the stage and go home.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - a little mayhem, I think at October 10, 2012 02:39 PM (hLRSq)

141 I haven't read Ace's post yet but had heard about this internet feminist drama.
What I was struck with is "feminist" lack of historical perspective. Did any of these wymen ever talk to anyone from that generation? I recall talking to grandmother about VJ and VE day ... I do not know how you do not get this but people, all people, where really really happy when the WWII ended. When people are really happy they do things to celebrate.

Posted by: Long Island at October 10, 2012 02:39 PM (kzp9t)

142 The italics are gone now. My previous post makes no sense. But what else is new?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (cVfX0)

143 Is Greta still alive? Claire McCaskill may want to put her in a campaign commercial.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (YmPwQ)

144 Those feminists complain 'cause they've got too much time on their hands.Time better spent getting in kitchen and making me a sandwich.

How many feminists does it take to cook breakfast?

Two. One to boil the eggs and one to blow me.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (BrQrN)

145 I think most people would concede that the question "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" is a terrific waste of time that accomplishes nothing except, perhaps, distracting the mind from more important questions with more tangible implications.

Actually, if the question was ever asked, it was a practice logic question used to teach students about the importance of presuppositions. The orthodox Christian answer is, of course, is that angels have no corporeal bodies and therefore the question itselfis flawed.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (/YzOu)

146 Everyone involved with that "feminist website" seriously needs to get laid.

Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (6IReR)

147 By the way, don't know where I got the link, might have been here. But recently there was a link to videos of the celebrations on either VE day or VJ day. It was great. There were people in the streets celebrating. Military personnel and civilians were driving down the streets honking horns with women perched on hoods, and so on. You have to assume there was some drinking going on.

Lefties are a bunch of wet blankets who can't stand to see anyone have a good time. Unless the slutty behavior ends with an abortion, that they applaud.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (l7/o3)

148
OT: Obama has sent ground troops to Jordan.

No blood for votes!!!

Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (1Y+hH)

149 But when Weiner sends pictures of his junk to a young woman he's never met that's.. uhhh.... his private business!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (f9c2L)

150 The Star Trek people will never force you to wear a Star Trek s uniform, while the Code Pinkos will force you to walk around in a giant va-jay-jay outfit.

Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (guxHP)

151 Thanks Ace! Definitely not going to see this movie.

Posted by: Captain Fork at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (38ReL)

152 A HAT TIP!!! I GOT A FUCKIN' HAT TIP!!! Well, kind of a hat tip.

This feels good. Really good. *pacing back and forth - thinking about taking the family out for dinner tonight*

Posted by: Dang© at October 10, 2012 02:41 PM (R18D0)

153 Because later, when you're pounding her Squatch into Vagina Scaloppini



This is.....disturbing.




you'll experience the pleasure and fear that comes from banging a broad
with that many daddy issues. You'll also learn that shame-tears can make
a handy lubricant for Round Two.



And if she's seeking approval that hard, well, the door on what she's up for is wiiiiide open.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:41 PM (da5Wo)

154 This post is proving difficult to masturbate to. Not sure I like the puritan tone the HQ has taken lately.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 10, 2012 02:41 PM (+lsX1)

155
Did we ever find out why Fox News was not on State's conference call?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:41 PM (jUytm)

156 Let me tell you about rape.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 02:41 PM (mukPq)

157
Eh, she wanted it.

All kidding aside, didn't she or they actually sue or make a claim that they (sailor and nurse) were the ones in the photo, to great delight.

Screw the feminists....wait....no, that's right.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2012 02:42 PM (PHb2k)

158 Shark week for the vagina

Man oh man, but Oedipus has just picked up a new complex.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 02:42 PM (mukPq)

159 Man, this post is so depressing.

Posted by: wooga at October 10, 2012 02:42 PM (vjyZP)

160 43 BTW Ace, that photo is from VJ day, not VE day.
---

From now on, i'll always think of it a VaJina Day

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 10, 2012 02:42 PM (SO2Q8)

161 Was she a great big fat person?

Posted by: J. Gumb at October 10, 2012 02:42 PM (WAOCR)

162 Is Ace still "Master of his domain"?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at October 10, 2012 02:42 PM (P6H+d)

163 Bill Clinton was a serial rapist who grabbed and groped women...for sport.

And this Feminazi person wants to 'reexamine' this harmless old photo?

The liberal Feminists lost all credibility in they way that they turned a blind eye to BJ Clinton.
They should just stfu.

Posted by: wheatie at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (l5RhJ)

164 you'll experience the pleasure and fear that comes from banging a broad

with that many daddy issues. You'll also learn that shame-tears can make

a handy lubricant for Round Two.


And if she's seeking approval that hard, well, the door on what she's up for is wiiiiide open.


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:41 PM (da5Wo)


Two words:

The Shocker

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (UK9cE)

165 As a woman, I personally do not find this photo depicting sexual assault.

I didn't even read what you wrote about this photo, but I'll just say, the photo makes me swoon. . . I wish a Hero of War would come home to me and take me in his arms and kiss me like that.

It'd make me feel like I was worth fighting and dying for.

What a man. And what a lucky woman.

Posted by: Lulu at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (W5c4e)

166 A closer look at the image in question shows corroborating details that become stomach-turning when properly viewed: the smirks on the faces of the sailors in the background; the firm grasp around the physically smaller woman in his arms such that she could not escape if she tried; the woman’s clenched fist and limp body.

If there is a better symbol for how messed up our ideas about sex and romance are, I can’t think of one.
--------------------------------------

HaHaHa! These chicks are funny!

Posted by: Nukie at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (L5yyj)

167 BTW Ace, that photo is from VJ day

VJazzle Day is one of my favorite holidays.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (mukPq)

168 Women: Can't with with 'em, can't live without 'em.

Posted by: Flounder at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (Dll6b)

169 Feminists. They can take the joy out of a war ending. Bitter twats, the lot of them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (X7wAM)

170 And one more thing ...

George knows how to kiss! Like a friggin movie star. That's what when you watch movies all day Saturday when all the sexually activity between actors is passionate kissing.

Posted by: Long Island at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (kzp9t)

171 So, does this mean that the chicken has been permanently removed from the sidebar?

Posted by: Redd at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (guxHP)

172 Dr. Adrena Pillock-Harridan

That made me laugh. Bravo.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (POGCP)

173 The Shocker

Is that two in the pink and one in the stink?

Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (GQ8sn)

174
"GO!...or stay."

Remember when KHAN went all PIMP on that SPACE HO?

http://tinyurl.com/9ndyqx

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 10, 2012 02:44 PM (jUytm)

175 Q: Why did that woman cross the road?

A: She crossed it to give me a blow job.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 02:44 PM (isjdZ)

176 The decision was that the woman who has taught fewer years, is at least fifty pounds overweight, has ratty looking hair, and looks like a fireplug with a dress over it is the 'serious' candidate.
___

Because she is a member of the old dyke's network.

Posted by: kallisto at October 10, 2012 02:44 PM (jm/9g)

177 Is it true the Oprah Network has signed on to show "Shark Week For The Vagina"?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 10, 2012 02:44 PM (B/VB5)

178 Off topic but Barry is saying that he was too polite at the debate and that's why he didn't do well.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (1Jaio)

179 Many movements or eras BLOGS-- most, probably NOTABLY, THIS BLOG-- enter a decadent phase at some point. I don't know of a textbook definition of a decadent phase, but my off-the-cuff attempt is this: a period marked by extremely minor variations on art or thought that has gone before, of recycling, of re-using old tropes rather than creating new ideas; a period marked not by accumulation or creation of capital, whether monetary capital or capital of another kind, such as intellectual or influential or philosophical, but instead marked by the use/spending of previously acquired capital without replenishing same; a period of sloth, whether sloth in intellect or sloth in industriousness, and a concomitant lowering of standards so that what little new work is done can be credited as good, important, or noble, albeit by a greatly reduced standard; a period without vitality; and, ultimately, a period marked by inward-turning self-indulgence, of whimsy, of juvenalia and "childish things," and a focus on trivia.

FIFY. Also, too long. I want content, but it must be the right kind ofcontent, it must be pithy, well edited, and shorter. That is what I demand and I will have you provide nothing less on your blog! /sarc

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (73P68)

180
I didn't even read what you wrote about this photo,

Welcome to AoS.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (jUytm)

181 Is that two in the pink and one in the stink?

Or vice-versa. Season to taste.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (BrQrN)

182 Is that two in the pink and one in the stink?


Posted by: EC at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (GQ8sn)


That is CORRECT, sir, yes!

Get this man a Vajayjay tainted CIGAR!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (UK9cE)

183 I've been waiting for feminists to complain about that photo. The unbridled passion for...life. From a bunch of guys who thought their lives might be near and end.

I've been waiting for you feminists to crack. Now that most of the women of that era are passing on, it's safe for you let out the whine you've been holding in for decades.

Let it out, darlings.

Posted by: CJ at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (9KqcB)

184 I feel a sudden urge to re-re-re-re-watch Mr. Mom and call out all the punchlines

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 10, 2012 02:45 PM (SO2Q8)

185 I spent five years "going where no man has gone before," and still can't remember Rand's first name.

Not that it bothers me. I don't remember any of them, but I never forget a bra strap.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 02:46 PM (mukPq)

186 Moar xposed bra straps!

Posted by: Kensington at October 10, 2012 02:46 PM (Z7toi)

187
Ace of Spades HQ


Comment first. Don't read the post later.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:46 PM (jUytm)

188 "82 The slut was asking for it, wearing all that white stuff."

Yeah, if she didn't want it she shouldn't have worn the naughty nurse costume.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 10, 2012 02:46 PM (l7/o3)

189
Ugly liberal feminists never get kissed passionately like that, so they want to take the fun away from the girls that do. Best photo ever.

Posted by: Mo the Girl Dislikes Ugly Liberal Feminists at October 10, 2012 02:47 PM (lOS+X)

190 Of course that was RAPE!!1!

All strait white males are rapists! If a man of color does it, it is not his fault but the fault of the Anglo-normative oppressors who enslaved their ancestors and oppressed them and stuff. And of course, womyn can't be rapists, and neither can gay or bi males because they would never sexually assualt anyone and to say otherwise is a hetero-normative lie.

That rapist in the picture is a soldier and part of the military-industrial complex who probably raped Asian cultures and womyn for Bush and Halliburton!

NO JUTIC NO PIECE!!`~!!1eleventy!!1!
NO JUTIC NO PIECE!!`~!!1eleventy!!1!
NO JUTIC NO PIECE!!`~!!1eleventy!!1!

Posted by: Womyn Studies Gradiate Student at October 10, 2012 02:47 PM (XvHmy)

191 "Longest. Ace. Sentence. Ever."
Ponder upon pins and dancing angels much?

Posted by: Buzznocker at October 10, 2012 02:47 PM (BvTwT)

192 Q: Why does it take more than one feminist to change a light bulb?

A: Because they're not smart.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 02:47 PM (WAOCR)

193 I wish a Hero of War would come home to me and take me in his arms and kiss me like that. It'd make me feel like I was worth fighting and dying for. What a man. And what a lucky woman.
Posted by: Lulu at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (W5c4e)
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I'm John Kerry and i'm reporting for duty

Posted by: John Kerry at October 10, 2012 02:47 PM (SO2Q8)

194 Rand's first name was "yeoman". Everyone knows that...

Posted by: Flounder at October 10, 2012 02:47 PM (Dll6b)

195 I had no idea heather radish obsessed about her bra strap.

Posted by: Truman North at October 10, 2012 02:48 PM (I2LwF)

196 "The problem for thefeminists is that they won the war"

for a group that contends all differences between men and women are oppressive constructions, i doubt there will ever be a point where they think they've "won"

sure they "won" as far as more flexibility for women to pursue careers, but modern feminism has always been a more insidious ideology than that

Posted by: JParker at October 10, 2012 02:48 PM (60GaT)

197
Two words:

The Shocker<<<<_<

She's a feminist. She needs comforting. That's why I recommend The Minivan:

Two in the front, five in the rear.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 02:48 PM (oihrP)

198
There's nothing more droll than a comment critic.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:49 PM (jUytm)

199 O/T from the Benghazi Embassy Attack Hearings-

LTC Woods just testified that he initially tried to call Senator McCain's office but could not get a response from them.

If you are an Arizona moron or hell --any ties to that--try and call that damn office and asked them why they ignored LTC Woods.

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 02:49 PM (r2PLg)

200 Two words:

The Shocker


Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:43 PM (UK9cE)


Go with the "Six Pack"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:49 PM (da5Wo)

201 Meanwhile, the authoress of the idiotic statement is diddling herself reading 50 shades.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (QxSug)

202 I'm not surprised by this, Feminists believe that looking at a woman because she is attractive is basically an act of "mini-rape."

Posted by: The Political Hat at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (XvHmy)

203
Wood or Woods?

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (jUytm)

204 And amazingly Ace did not mention the Democrat's gaffe of telling women to vote because of their sex organs. Talk about trivializing the entire woman -brains, skills, and such - reducing her to merely her naughty bits.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (a0qpy)

205 She's a feminist. She needs comforting. That's why I recommend The Minivan:Two in the front, five in the rear.

Consider that stolen sir!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (BrQrN)

206
the difference is important

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (jUytm)

207 This post is a metaphor for a Akin poll and Clair Rape Ad thread

Posted by: Jean at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (tmzN0)

208 Dear John Kerry,

I would've turned you into a Conservative. And a true man of honor instead of the louse you are. You've been kissing the wrong women (or men?).

Lulu

Posted by: Lulu at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (W5c4e)

209 So oppressed and 'assaulted' she reenacted the kiss decades later.

Okay then.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (pLTLS)

210 Go with the "Six Pack"


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:49 PM (da5Wo)


Isn't that similar to "the bowling ball?"

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (UK9cE)

211 She's a feminist. She needs comforting. That's why I recommend The Minivan:

Two in the front, five in the rear.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 02:48 PM (oihrP)


We're talking inches here, right?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (da5Wo)

212 OT: Obama has sent ground troops to Jordan.No blood for votes!!!
Posted by: Meremortal at October 10, 2012 02:40 PM (1Y+hH)


-----------------------------------------


150 military personnel at the mercy of the present CiC and AQ. I'd be finding an alternate "safe house" that no one knows about.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 02:51 PM (isjdZ)

213 My war record is rape, murder, arson, and rape.

Posted by: Feminist Stereotype of WWII Soldier at October 10, 2012 02:51 PM (XvHmy)

214 He squeezed her ass!!1!

Posted by: uterus cannon at October 10, 2012 02:51 PM (3ZtZW)

215 Isn't that similar to "the bowling ball?"


Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (UK9cE)


Indeed. However, which direction you hold the ball/six pack is up to you.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:52 PM (da5Wo)

216 basically an act of "mini-rape."

In the 23rd century, Starfleet has perfected "nano-rape." Size and weight are crucial in space travel.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 02:52 PM (mukPq)

217 22
Shark Week is a funny euphemism for "the ladytimes."

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 10, 2012 02:14 PM (Jm7mj)

As Dave pointed out, there already is a "Shark Week for the vagina," and although I know of at least two feminists who frequently use that phrase, I'm pretty sure they would cry oppression by the patriarchy if they heard a man use it.

Posted by: not the mama at October 10, 2012 02:52 PM (kzCIn)

218 Well, I want to give that feminist a big unsuspecting kiss, just for the fun of it. My guess is she is feeling lonely or ugly and this pic just pisses her off because she wasn't chosen.

Anyway, I never would have clicked on the Victory Girls site if the fems didn't claim photo rape. I think I will visit Victory Girls more often:

Does this blog make my butt look big?
HA!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (PHb2k)

219 213 My war record is rape, murder, arson, and rape.

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Why did you list rape twice?

Posted by: Straightman at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (SO2Q8)

220 203
Wood or Woods?
Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (jUytm)


_________________

Oops- LTC Wood.

What the hell is wrong with Senator McCain's office that they did not respond to him?

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (r2PLg)

221 We're talking inches here, right?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (da5Wo)


I believe the techincal term is "fisting."

Posted by: © Sponge at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (UK9cE)

222 basically an act of "mini-rape."



In the 23rd century, Starfleet has perfected "nano-rape." Size and weight are crucial in space travel.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 02:52 PM (mukPq)

I'll say. An error in scale could lead to tragic consequences.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (Hx5uv)

223 Broads are really cute when they try to think and stuff.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 02:53 PM (GRvW4)

224 LTC Andrew Wood

Posted by: tasker at October 10, 2012 02:54 PM (r2PLg)

225 BTW if a woman is spending that much time worrying about a bra strap or that she likes "girly" things she needs some real life problems and worries. I got an idea ... knock her up then she will something to think about besides herself and her bra strap.

Posted by: Long Island at October 10, 2012 02:54 PM (kzp9t)

226 Nice one Ace!

Posted by: Brian at October 10, 2012 02:54 PM (wTSvK)

227 It's obvious that the sailor is rap___ that woman because we had just won the racist, unprovokedwar against Japan. Unfairly using nukes, I might add.

Posted by: Tom Hanks at October 10, 2012 02:54 PM (YmPwQ)

228 for a group that contends all differences between men and women are oppressive constructions, i doubt there will ever be a point where they think they've "won"

That's the problem. They won, they just won't admit. So they continue to go further into triviality. Like Ace said, angels on the heads of pins, the name of some obscure red shirt in Star Trek. And instead of acknowledging that yes, this is small potatoes work now, the reaction is "Oh Noes! It is as important as the stuff that went before!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - a little mayhem, I think at October 10, 2012 02:54 PM (hLRSq)

229 In a world where to feminists everything from a telephone pole to a baguette is a phallic symbol, everything from a wink to a handshake is rape.

We are all Conan now!

Posted by: George Orwell what knows poor people don't know how to dress themselves at October 10, 2012 02:55 PM (mukPq)

230 We're talking inches here, right? Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (da5Wo)

Thanks! Just......thanks!

Effin' FroYo all over the floor now. Who's gonna clean this up now?!?!?

Jerks!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 02:55 PM (sbV1u)

231 As Dave pointed out, there already is a "Shark Week for the vagina,"

Always aim the harpoon at the head during Shark Week.

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at October 10, 2012 02:55 PM (BrQrN)

232
What the hell is wrong with Senator McCain's office that they did not respond to him?

Because...

oh look, it's Big Bird!

Posted by: soothsayer at October 10, 2012 02:55 PM (jUytm)

233 Ace gives a movie review about a stupid feminist. I think the problem with the movement is that fourth wave feminsism is a purely academic pursuit with no real world applicability and therefore they need to out crazy each other to get academic accolades.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 02:55 PM (QxSug)

234
We're talking inches here, right?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (da5Wo)><<<<

What are you, some kind of porn star?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 02:56 PM (oihrP)

235 If I don't exist yet, I should.

Posted by: The Big Book of Ace's Essays at October 10, 2012 02:56 PM (JVEmw)

236 And amazingly Ace did not mention the Democrat's gaffe of telling women to vote because of their sex organs.

---

Have your juvenile humor if you must but I'm going to vote like my lady parts depended on it.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 10, 2012 02:57 PM (Hx5uv)

237 Well, it's a great piece, Ace. And it beautifully and in well-written prose summarizes why "I simply cannot take Modern Feminists seriously".

Posted by: docj at October 10, 2012 02:58 PM (A5uiv)

238 234
We're talking inches here, right?


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:50 PM (da5Wo)><<<<

What are you, some kind of porn star?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 02:56 PM (oihrP)


Yeah. I, for one, notice those 5'10" tall Irish male pornstars ALL the time...

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:58 PM (da5Wo)

239 We are all Conan now!


-------------------------------------------------


I think I could live with that.

Posted by: Soona at October 10, 2012 02:59 PM (isjdZ)

240 A true feminist would enjoy the base celebration of existance that is the Alabama hot pocket.
If you are feeling saucy Ace, you could always try for the Angry Dragon, though that might develop into the Bucking Bronco.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at October 10, 2012 02:59 PM (t06LC)

241 Yeah. I, for one, notice those 5'10" tall Irish male pornstars ALL the time...


Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 02:58 PM (da5Wo)

Heh heh ... fag *snigger*

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 02:59 PM (GRvW4)

242 Maybe that woman who is so offended at the idea of a sailor kissing a
nurse, should review the number of men during WWII who died in action,
were wounded, disabled, separated from their families for years, made
sacrifices that women didn't have to make.


Lol, whut? You think women make no sacrifices in wartime? They lose husbands and sons; they do men's work to keep the farms and factories going.

And some risked injury and death. My great-aunt was an Army nurse in a field hospital unit in Italy, Austria, and Germany. Their hospital tents got strafed. She brought back some photos of things retreating Nazis did to villagers that my grandfather wouldn't let me see because they're too horrible for young ladies.

Her "sweetheart" was killed in another theater; she never married or had children (which was the same thing in those days, unlike now). Worked all her life instead.


But God forbid the Horde be forced to comtemplate that women may be anything more than a sammich-maker/babymaker/cheerleader.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 02:59 PM (/kI1Q)

243 I will willingly take the trivialities over what hat at the Kentucky Derby is most beautiful over what these militant feminists spend their time in angst over.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 02:59 PM (a0qpy)

244 I think the problem with the movement is that fourth wave feminsism is a purely academic pursuit with no real world applicability and therefore they need to out crazy each other to get academic accolades.
---
They won the war long ago and never noticed. So they wander the landscape seeking monsters to slay. Finding none they imagine gnats to be dragons, providing purpose to their cause.
That and they tend to be fugly...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at October 10, 2012 03:00 PM (SO2Q8)

245 oh look, it's Big Bird!

Driving away [dog whistle obscures sound] like the innocent OJ Simpson [end dog whistle obscuring sound] in a white Bronco.

Posted by: The Precedent at October 10, 2012 03:00 PM (feFL6)

246 In the 23rd century, Starfleet has perfected "nano-rape." Size and weight are crucial in space travel.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012

I'll say. An error in scale could lead to tragic consequences.


One time, Scotty was beaming up a crate of Starfleet-regulation dildoes for the female officers and he hit the wrong scaling setting on the transporter.

We went through the ship's entire stock of cigarettes in twenty minutes.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 03:00 PM (mukPq)

247 We're talking inches here, right?

We use meters in Starfleet. If you get my drift.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (mukPq)

248 Bring back the CHIEF BRODY SLAP™.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (WAOCR)

249 It's really just a self-indulgent, self-centered viewpoint. In the same way my 12 year old daughter can go on and on about a minor scrape. But seriously, does this comment make my butt look big?

Posted by: fartist at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (TIFhn)

250 In reality, this nurse was not resisting and concented. The sailor's wife and mother are in the background on the right. He told them that he was going to kiss the first nurse he saw because of the great care they provided to him when he was hospitalized.

This was a non-sexual kiss. It was hammed up. That's all.

But while you're at it, V-Jine, what kind of kisses did Clinton give those women he assaulted?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (iAUf+)

251 There's a certain kind of feminist, and a disturbingly common one at that, that views any action or idea by a male not completely in submission to the feminist ideology as a crime equal to rape. These people have no interest in dialogue or anything like the common idea of democracy; they just want power.

Posted by: Shawn Smith at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (eDY6o)

252 228

maybe i'm arguing semantics but i think the way they explained their ideology from the mid-20th century on, they haven't really won by their standards. there's also the fact that while i don't want to evoke an exaggerated nostalgia for a pre-feminist time period i have no clue about, which i'm sure had its own share of problems, there's mainstream aspects about feminism i think can still be criticized. overdriven career women types for example (didn't Yahoo make a pregnant woman CEO a little while ago.) or women in the military.

Posted by: JParker at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (60GaT)

253
But God forbid the Horde be forced to comtemplate that women may be anything more than a sammich-maker/babymaker/cheerleader. <<>><<

Oh, stop it. They also clean.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (oihrP)

254 Or the US Army nurses who were captured by the Japanese in the Philippines. Or the Dutch civilian women in the Dutch East Indies who were tossed into prison camps also. The previously mentioned Soviet rape game in occupied Berlin. Japan's use of Korean comfort women. World War II was pretty much equal opportunity in suffering.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (a0qpy)

255 …Far from being a kiss between a loving couple, we learn that George and Greta were perfect strangers. We learn that George was drunk, and that Greta had no idea of his presence, until she was in his arms, with his lips on hers… It seems pretty clear, then, what George had committed was sexual assault.”

Reading that makes me feel like my mind has been raped.

Posted by: mare at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (A98Xu)

256 I also suggest you go tell some of the women who served in Iraq who got wounded or missed their children's firsts or whose husbands left them in the aftermath that "women don't make sacrifices during wars."

Report back to us.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 03:03 PM (/kI1Q)

257 But God forbid the Horde be forced to comtemplate that women may be anything more than a sammich-maker/babymaker/cheerleader.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at October 10, 2012 02:59 PM (/kI1Q)

Well then, on behalf of all Morons, let me apologize profusely for our insensitivity and lack of appreciation. We recognize and respect the contributions and sacrifices of our honored 'Ettes and their sisters, mothers, and daughters throughout history, and will never again fail to acknowledge the importance of wimmenzes and the role they play in history. Our bad.



And a turkey on rye would be great. Easy on the mayo, if ya don't mind.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx is climbing out of the crawlspace at October 10, 2012 03:04 PM (GRvW4)

258 S.C.U.M. (Society for Cutting Up Men)

It is now technically possible to reproduce without the aid of males (or, for that matter, females) and to produce only females. We must begin immediately to do so. Retaining the male has not even the dubious purpose of reproduction. The male is a biological accident: the y(male) gene is an incomplete x(female) gene, that is, has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.


http://goo.gl/ybgtl

Posted by: Valerie Solanas at October 10, 2012 03:04 PM (guxHP)

259 another reason why this idiotresses's article strikes a nerve is because the femmies throw around assault and rape around. Kissing is not a sexual assault, at least not as they mean it to be understood.

These women hate men, hate them for making them feel gushy "down there", for not talking to them and talking to that slut suzy, and for not being as cool as that other guy over there. They want men to be subservient.

Posted by: joeindc44 found the last comment to be vile, particularly vile at October 10, 2012 03:05 PM (QxSug)

260 Ace,
Sounds like your brain stopped you from indulging in some sweet flesh. Stay away from crazy chicks! Its not worth the headache. Think of it as an extension to your NO-FAP pledge.

Posted by: Kiana at October 10, 2012 03:06 PM (w41GQ)

261 Ace, how are her cans?

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at October 10, 2012 03:06 PM (PiESu)

262 Oh, stop it. They also clean.


Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 03:02 PM (oihrP)


You forgot about the BJ's.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 03:06 PM (da5Wo)

263 Although completely physical, the male is unfit even for stud service. Even assuming mechanical proficiency, which few men have, he is first of all, incapable of zestfully, lustfully, tearing off a
piece, but is instead eaten up with guilt, shame, fear and insecurity, feelings rooted in male nature, which the most enlightened training can only minimize; second, the physical feeling he attains is next to nothing; and, third, he is not empathizing with his partner, but is obsessed with how he's doing, turning in an A performance, doing a good plumbing job. To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he's a machine, a walking dildo. It's often said that men use women. Use them for what? Surely not pleasure.

Posted by: Valerie Solanas at October 10, 2012 03:06 PM (guxHP)

264 Ace, pay no attention to commenters who say this was overlong. An essay need not always be short.

You're a damn good writer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 10, 2012 03:07 PM (exvgC)

265 Shark Week for the Vagina = the movie Teeth


In this feminism seems to me to be a flight from the world, not an engagement with it.


The strain of "feminism" to which ace refers is neo-Victorianism straight out. It is all about protecting women from those Big Bad Awful Men out there who will turn into slavering beasts at the sight of an ankle. It's about protecting ever so delicate sensibilities from horrific things such as men, in general. It's about taking to the fainting couch. It's about wanting to live in a perfectly appointed room, wearing perfect clothes, sipping at a perfectly made cup of tea whilst those brutes go about the ever so uncouth work of, well, work.


It's about denying that I am an independent, capable, intelligent person with her own agency and power who is fully capable of taking care of herself, even, not to mention, especially when that entails a realization that I do, in fact, need a big strong guy to come over here and yank Handsy McHanderson off me.


It's about accepting what used to be considered the most demeaning stereotypes about women: that we are ruled by emotion, that we have worth only to the extent that we are either a virgin or a whore, that we are too weak to deal with men, that we must be protected from the world at large.


I do not comprehend why a woman would wish to think this way about herself. Why would you let others tell you that you are weak? Why would you do that?


I cannot address the trivialization of sexual assault without descending into a frothing rage so I shall not.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD the revelator at October 10, 2012 03:08 PM (VtjlW)

266
You forgot about the BJ's<<<<__

They were implied in "cheerleader."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 03:08 PM (oihrP)

267 Posted by: Valerie Solanas at October 10, 2012 03:04 PM (guxHP)



Best sock today! We have a winner!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 03:08 PM (sbV1u)

268 alexthechick, remember its all about power over credulous, re vapid, individuals.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at October 10, 2012 03:10 PM (a0qpy)

269 266
You forgot about the BJ's<<<<__

They were implied in "cheerleader."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 10, 2012 03:08 PM (oihrP)


I'll try not to be offended by that. (Married to an ex-NFL cheerleader)

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 03:15 PM (da5Wo)

270 I remember after we beat the Triskelion gamesters, I frenched this hot blonde alien in a silver bikini. I frenched some yeoman chick after we kicked Klingon butt at Capella. Also after Cestus III.

Shit, I grope a woman about every time I use a turbolift.

Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 10, 2012 03:15 PM (mukPq)

271 Based on the placement of Greta's feet, I'm pretty sure she enjoyed that moment just as much as George did.

Posted by: Eddie Willers at October 10, 2012 03:16 PM (bRdb3)

272 "One bad habit of geeks is that they create for themselves a very narrow and
inconsequential area of expertise -- Transformers, comic books, Star
Trek, what have you -- and spend overmuch time in this psychological
Woobie."


THIS! THIIIIIIIIIS! Ugh, I get annoyed with geek culture at times.

"Geeks are smart!" What's so smart about repeating your dumb in-jokes over and over again? Geeks like to ruin mildly amusing things by turning them into memes.

Posted by: Shoot Me at October 10, 2012 03:16 PM (qiXMt)

273 But it wasn't sexual assault-sexual assault!

Posted by: Whoopi "Cushion" Goldberg rape-rape meter at October 10, 2012 03:18 PM (BHM5V)

274 Ace you're being too hard on your friend. We are all full of contradictions. A moonbat is "one who sacrifices sanity for consistency." Your friend is not a moonbat, and what is more, she knows how to laugh at herself.

Now go plow that chick!

Posted by: major major major major at October 10, 2012 03:19 PM (utCAk)

275 I'll try not to be offended by that. (Married to an ex-NFL cheerleader)Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 03:15 PM (da5Wo)


Actually I would think you'd be saying, "Damn straight, bro!"

Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 03:19 PM (sbV1u)

276 Ace, you should tell her. You could be a source of enlighenment, and create a new and honest and genuine relationship.

Or she could laugh at you and make you wish you were dead.

Kind of a coin toss.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Mobile at October 10, 2012 03:21 PM (bfLsO)

277 275
I'll try not to be offended by that. (Married to an ex-NFL
cheerleader)Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 03:15 PM (da5Wo)


Actually I would think you'd be saying, "Damn straight, bro!"


Posted by: Sean Bannion at October 10, 2012 03:19 PM (sbV1u)


Well, while I'm her last, I wasn't her first. So.....
lol

Posted by: BCochran1981 at October 10, 2012 03:23 PM (da5Wo)

278 Years ago the woman being kissed was actually interviewed on one of the morning news programs. I distinctly remember the interview - don't ask, I just do. The woman was nice and kind and said she was having fun like everyone and enjoyed it. No, she didn't know the guy. There was a big party in the streets and lots of people were kissing. End of story. Geez.

Posted by: Trialdog at October 10, 2012 03:23 PM (oSKxc)

279 http://preview.tinyurl.com/9tykfcv
Man didn't build that.

Posted by: Thorvald at October 10, 2012 03:31 PM (1V6Pv)

280
WTF happened? I come here for politics and get a story on a historical scolding by hags who wouldn't be able to catch a man with one of those ACME nets from the old Warner Bros. cartoons.
Oh and the Mid East is still burning. Carry on, ladies.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at October 10, 2012 03:33 PM (HgwiM)

281 Do you really think women as a whole make or experiencethe same or equal sacrifices in war that men do? Really? Why is it so hard to concede that war predominately effects men more than women?

Posted by: polynikes at October 10, 2012 03:37 PM (m2CN7)

282 For the record, Ace - the medieval scholastics did not debate how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. That's a myth.

Check out The Straight Dope for confirmation:

http://goo.gl/tWSBC

Most of the "weird" arguments Aquinas, et al, addressed arose from challenges to the logical consistency of Catholic theology, the rebuttal of which necessitated getting into some pretty deep weeds. IOW, certain scholastic arguments may seem strained and somewhat pointless when taken in isolation, but they were usually aimed at answering a specific objection or challenge, rather than mere speculation for the sake of speculation or mental masturbation.

Enjoyed your piece.

Cheers.

Posted by: shoeless hunter at October 10, 2012 03:42 PM (9196u)

283 to be totally honest, without having any feminist prompting whatsoever, the first time i heard the details of the kiss, "sexual assault" was what came to my mind, too.

i mean, you didn't really address the crux at all...what makes grabbing someone from behind and forcing a kiss on them without any invitation or even warning NOT sexual assault?

i understand the emotional state. ww2. largest unnatural loss of life in human history. finally over. the relief. the borderline-religious ecstasy.

all that considered...grabbing someone you don't know from behind and forcing a kiss on their lips? that really *is* sexual assault, v-j or not :\

those of us who are cute enough to have to worry about being touched unwillingly when we're out in public around drunk guys might have a better perspective, but honestly, it doesn't take a degree in postmodernist feminist critical deconstructionalism to understand why this type of behaviour just isn't ok, defining photo-op of a generation or not.

good on the gal for giving him a pass considering the circumstances...but the military in which one is enlisted having just won a war simply doesn't give one the right to go around snatching up random folks on the street for ninja kisses. o.o

Posted by: jimi ray at October 10, 2012 03:43 PM (79EF9)

284 That's Fifty Shades of Gray, right therebaby! Were all those French Mademoiselles sexually assaulting the allied soldiers in the streets after the occupation was over?

Posted by: Miss C at October 10, 2012 03:43 PM (mv0DD)

285
Those harpies can gnash their teeth, cry, wail and scream, but the only way they'll be able to take my masculinity from me is to kill me. I bet they are secretly hoping that some day they'll get kissed by a guy again.

Posted by: Gmac at October 10, 2012 03:49 PM (IanLz)

286 There was a big party in the streets and lots of people were kissing. End of story. Geez.
___

Sounds like Two Street on New Year's Day.

Posted by: kallisto at October 10, 2012 03:50 PM (jm/9g)

287
to be totally honest, without having any feminist prompting whatsoever, the first time i heard the details of the kiss, "sexual assault" was what came to my mind, too.

i mean, you didn't really address the crux at all...what makes grabbing someone from behind and forcing a kiss on them without any invitation or even warning NOT sexual assault?

i understand the emotional state. ww2. largest unnatural loss of life in human history. finally over. the relief. the borderline-religious ecstasy.

all that considered...grabbing someone you don't know from behind and forcing a kiss on their lips? that really *is* sexual assault, v-j or not :\

those of us who are cute enough to have to worry about being touched unwillingly when we're out in public around drunk guys might have a better perspective, but honestly, it doesn't take a degree in postmodernist feminist critical deconstructionalism to understand why this type of behaviour just isn't ok, defining photo-op of a generation or not.

good on the gal for giving him a pass considering the circumstances...but the military in which one is enlisted having just won a war simply doesn't give one the right to go around snatching up random folks on the street for ninja kisses. o.o

Wow! So that girl that grabbed my @$$ at Mayfest in '80 committed a sexual assault. Shoulda had the b!itch arrested!

Posted by: Whoopi at October 10, 2012 03:51 PM (BHM5V)

288 What Bill Clinton and Monica did in the Oval Office wasn't sex, but this is?

Posted by: Socratease at October 10, 2012 04:03 PM (iVBDH)

289 @287

there's a difference between acknowledging a sexual assault for what it is -- putting your mouth on mine without asking is never ok, even if the picture ends up defining a furious moment of collective national ecstasy that its entire generation can't help but recall fondly -- and demanding that everyone who commits minor sexual assaults in decidedly hedonistic environments ought to be arrested.

i didn't say the guy should have been punished; in fact, i said "good on that gal for not making a stink". course, not that she could have in the 40's, i guess, but still, she seemed gracious enough in a tv retrospective.

regardless, grabbing someone from behind and forcing yourself onto him or her for a kiss -- which is *every bit* of what he did -- without checking to see if its ok happens to be a pretty clear-cut case of sexual assault.

those who are saying that she suffered far less than most of the men have a good point (though i doubt if the fat sailor saw a lick of combat), and i don't mind the kiss being framed as an involuntary part of her contribution to the war effort.

doesn't mean that the drunk, classless goon that forced himself on her wasn't committing assault, no matter what his excuse for acting like a barbarian.

Posted by: jimi ray at October 10, 2012 04:05 PM (79EF9)

290 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 10, 2012 04:06 PM (6o4Fb)

291 >>>i mean, you didn't really address the crux at all...what makes grabbing someone from behind and forcing a kiss on them without any invitation or even warning NOT sexual assault?

Sexual assault is generally defined by the unwanted touching of breasts, buttocks or genitalia, either over or under, clothes. Kissing is not a sexual assault.

Posted by: Valerie Solanas at October 10, 2012 04:10 PM (guxHP)

292
Mayfest was an annual concert held at SUNY-Albany. To characterize it as hedonistic is rather presumptuous. So my example wasn't sexual assault-sexual assault! Thanks for the clarification. BTW, I was gracious enough to laugh it off!

Posted by: Whoopi at October 10, 2012 04:13 PM (BHM5V)

293 Did anyone read all of this? Short version: Frankfort Feminism Theory = Load of Codswollop.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 10, 2012 04:25 PM (1FOy5)

294 FIRST!

Posted by: Guy who makes sure he reads the entire post before commenting at October 10, 2012 04:26 PM (1FOy5)

295 131Nostalgia Chick?Posted by: buster 's what I thought.

Posted by: Z Ryan at October 10, 2012 04:26 PM (tsC/8)

296 So a Hummer in the Oval office isn't even sex, but a kiss is sexual assault.

I guess it's a good thing Monica never kissed Billy on the lips or THAT would have constituted sex?

Or have the rules changed... again? Can I get a new rulebook?

Posted by: gekkobear at October 10, 2012 04:31 PM (X0NX1)

297 "Geeks are smart!" What's so smart about repeating your dumb in-jokes over and over again? Geeks like to ruin mildly amusing things by turning them into memes.

Hey!

Posted by: half the AoS commentors at October 10, 2012 04:49 PM (QupBk)

298 Did anyone actually read that?

Posted by: Gerry at October 10, 2012 04:49 PM (GlXr0)

299 Liberal Position Generator: figure out what a sane, intelligent adult would think, then come up with the most freakish inversion of that you can imagine.

Let's test it out:

Sane Rational Adult: on an occasion of joyous global celebration it is unremarkable and kind of sweet for a young man to kiss a young woman even if they don't know each other.

Freakish Inversion: "THIS IS RAPE!!"

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 10, 2012 05:17 PM (dZH6h)

300 but it wasn't rape-rape right?
I think I must have missed one of the memos on this. So Confusing.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at October 10, 2012 05:28 PM (EhYdw)

301 Ace, the first 45 paragraphs were good, but then I nodded off- who won?

Posted by: docweasel at October 10, 2012 06:15 PM (h0KX8)

302 This is a great post. If it weren't for the fact that the "Greatest Hits" section is never, ever updated with new entries (Monty's Economic Series e.g.) I'd say it should go in the "Greatest Hits" section.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 10, 2012 06:20 PM (i0App)

303 Does V-J day stand for vagina day? That sounds pretty sexist.

Posted by: Kevin at October 10, 2012 06:54 PM (ufexm)

304 those of us who are cute enough to have to worry about being touched unwillingly when we're out in public around drunk guys might have a better perspective. . . .jimi ray
As a 58-year-old woman (but still 'cute enough to have to worry'), allow me to tell you that if that is your worry, it is probably not anybody else's. And if any person of any gender cannot handle or protect themselves against any other person of any gender who is drunk and obnoxious, then sit your 'cute enough' butt on the sofa and don't venture into those areas. I'm sorry you were raised in a bubble where you were told over and over that it was a heinous crime against your gender to be placed in any situation where somebody would bother you in a way you deemed unsightly.

How dare ANYONE equate this picture with real sexual assault! The nurse could have backed up and slapped him - she didn't. If you cannot conceive of a day where people would be absolutely thrilled and dancing in the streets because of the news that a world war had ended, fine. But do not overlay your current preciousness on a situation that you have fortunately never HAD to experience precisely because of what everybody in that picture was willing to undergo.

Posted by: dwagyak at October 10, 2012 07:29 PM (fhcrm)

305
Good thing feminsts didn't exist in 1945. They were simply called "women in comfortable shoes."

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at October 10, 2012 08:05 PM (ps3Ko)

306 Why connect the Frankfurt School to feminism? I can see the connection to the later work of Marcuse, but by that time (60s, 70s) he had become a caricature. I certainly can't see a link to Horkheimer, Adorno, or even Habermas (who would accept the political aims of ERA-era feminism, but reject the philosophical underpinnings).

I'm not a Marxist and don't want to launch into a full-throated defense of the genuine, early School here, but there is so much more intellectual integrity in the works of those early Jews that it's hard for me to reconcile that kind of philosophical acumen with the sloppy and confused relativism of New Left feminism.

But maybe I'm missing much. New to the site and your thinking, so please forgive if I've misinterpreted.

Posted by: Fabio Escobar at October 11, 2012 12:11 AM (Gcpis)

307 Yes, that was definitely sexual assault.

Posted by: Lara Logan at October 11, 2012 10:07 AM (RnTRh)

308 That picture may be interpreted as a sexual assault, but I note the nurses dangling left arm .... hardly resisting the assault ... rather she is loving it.

Posted by: John West at October 11, 2012 11:51 AM (c0zxN)






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