Fighting Words: NYC Bans All Speech Which Might Insult The Prophet of Islam

They've rewritten their blasphemy laws to try to fit them into the "Fighting Words" exception to free speech, as Allah admirably explains.

This means that if you would like to exercise your peaceful right to free speech, and someone else wishes to unlawfully exercise his non-peaceful non-right to engage in violence over your statement, your right is limited by his non-right.

Now, I suppose even liberals would understand the problem with this, if this "rule" were being generally applied. But they know it's not-- this "rule" shall only be applied to protect the de facto state religion of the US (the only religion afforded any sort of protection from "slander" and "provocations" in our laws), Islam.

There is a confusing aspect to this article that kept me from mentioning it earlier. I still cannot figure it out.

First the article says that ads like Pam Gellar's will be "prohibited," because violent people might use them as an excuse for illegal violence. So her rights will have to be taken away from her, so that violent thugs' non-rights aren't exercised.

But then it says this:

The authority said it believed the new guidelines adhered to the court’s ruling and would withstand any potential First Amendment challenge. Under the new policy, the authority will continue to allow so-called viewpoint ads, but each will be required to include a disclaimer noting that the ad does not imply the authority’s endorsement of its views.

Allah thinks that means other viewpoint ads will be required to run this disclaimer, whereas Gellar's will simply be prohibited.

I think that's right. I certainly don't think the NYC council voted 8-0 to keep her ad (with disclaimer). I think the statist fascists voted 8-0 to take away her (and your) right to free speech, depending on the political clout, and willingness to engage in violence and terrorism, of the group whose feelings you're hurting.

I say once again: I cannot think of any move which encourages Islamic tendencies towards violence and jihad in the name of "God" than actually sanctifying Islam's protected place in our own goddamned laws.

I also cannot think of a more effective recruiting tool for the more bloody-minded, intolerant strain of Islam.

If you were a Muslim, choosing between a more moderate form of Islam that accepted the ideals of pluralism, freedom, and secular (not religious) rule, and the bloody-minded sort that proclaimed Sharia for all, and those who insult The Prophet shall be beheaded...

...which of the two forms do you see the world's governments bowing down to?

One thing religions tend not to have is tangible, real-world proof that they're the One True Religion.

But when the governments of all the world bow down to one form of Islam (and not the other)... Well. That is at least a demonstration that one form has real power, an undeniable ability to make nonbelievers and opponents kneel and bow with respect.

We might as well just start putting up ads that say, frankly, "The Salafist, violent, close-minded, intolerant form of Islam is the True Form of Islam."

Because that's what our actions are saying.

Irony: Pam Gellar's ad is "demeaning," it is asserted, because it implies that violent, intolerant Salafists are "savage." Her ad states something like, "In a struggle between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man."

Now, the MTA says she can't run that ad because some people will be unable to restrain themselves from committing acts of violence and mayhem.

Which people?

The savages?


Posted by: Ace at 04:46 PM



Comments

1 http://tinyurl.com/c36l5f7

Hahahahahahaha Too fucking GREAT

Posted by: Evilpens at September 28, 2012 04:46 PM (ck76k)

2 FOIST!

Posted by: Evilpens at September 28, 2012 04:47 PM (ck76k)

3 hey new york....fuck islam!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know at September 28, 2012 04:47 PM (j1z2L)

4 Ace owes Pamela Gellar's big tits an apology.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 28, 2012 04:47 PM (6/bOE)

5 Bacon?!!!!!

Posted by: Mr Tea at September 28, 2012 04:47 PM (0Kph1)

6 ads like Pam Gellar's will be "prohibited," because violent people might use them as an excuse for illegal violence.

I guess my "You've got a great rack" ad isn't going anywhere.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 04:47 PM (AZGON)

7 So I can't put a Porky's/Hooters across from the WTC mosque and blare "Fiddler on the Roof" from loudspeakers?

Sharia sucks. Put Bloomberg in a burqa and dunk him in a bottomless mikvah.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2012 04:48 PM (+tqYo)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 28, 2012 04:48 PM (/eBe8)

9 the authority will continue to allow so-called viewpoint ads, but each will be required to include a disclaimer noting that the ad does not imply the authority’s endorsement of its views.

In this case, the distraction is not a squirrel but a weasel.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 04:48 PM (AZGON)

10 Well, yeah, Ace. Can't be hurtin the poor dears' feelings, now.

1st Amendment? How quaint.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (wJX79)

11 In God we Trust: Bad

Pledge and Prayer in School: Bad

Ads that target a homicidal Religion: Bad

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (UZQM8)

12 I'm telling 'ya. These Muslims ain't kosher.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (+tqYo)

13 This is cool so now I can rip down pro infanticide ads in the NYC subway system.



Posted by: General Woundwort at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (06lNq)

14 I say once again: I cannot think of any move which encourages Islamic tendencies towards violence and jihad in the name of "God" than actually sanctifying Islam's protected place in our own goddamned laws.


Insty hit the nail on the head. "My advice to the Religious Right: Deface anything you find offensive. That’s clearly how to get your way."


Doesn't this rather prove the point of the ad that a not inconsiderable portion of the Religion of Peace are savages?

Posted by: alexthechick - Stop. SMOD time. at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (VtjlW)

15 Attack us again and we'll apologize at you even harder!

Posted by: NYC at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (ggRof)

16 DOOM .... it's just around the corner.

Posted by: Myan Calendar at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (ycm4Q)

17 Oh yeah, at the office today - hence the hash.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (wJX79)

18 Europe is such a great place to be. Why WOULDN'T we want to bring it to America?

Posted by: © Sponge at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (nDcVA)

19 I just find it very surprising that a decade after Muslims unleash horrific violence on us, they are now protected rather than despised.

It's almost like, in some parallel 1950's, we elected a Nazi president. It's just baffling.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 28, 2012 04:50 PM (DuH+r)

20 One psycho bitch with a can of spray paint can make a difference!

In a liberal city of sheeple.

Fuck NYC.

Posted by: Dang© at September 28, 2012 04:50 PM (R18D0)

21 My take http://bit.ly/Px1Sd7

From earlier today.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 28, 2012 04:50 PM (/eBe8)

22 As a pastafarian, can I declare jihad on Olive Garden?

Posted by: Adriane is not religious, per se ... at September 28, 2012 04:51 PM (/OhbZ)

23 No more bacon ads?

Posted by: Dang© at September 28, 2012 04:51 PM (R18D0)

24 New York City: Once famous for notoriously rude people, now perfecting simpering cowardice towards citizens and base fawning before Islam.

Sex in the City gives way to Censorship in the Subway.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 04:51 PM (AZGON)

25 22 As a pastafarian, can I declare jihad on Olive Garden?
Posted by: Adriane is not religious, per se ... at September 28, 2012 04:51 PM (/OhbZ)


Allahu ba-fangoul?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (+tqYo)

26
MJ to Islamists: Time to put on your big boy robes and learn to take a little criticism.

Posted by: MJ at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (TR60b)

27 New York City.

Never to see an add with an offensive 32 oz. drink ever again.

Posted by: © Sponge at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (nDcVA)

28 So, essentially, telling the ugly truth about the gutter cult of islam is forbidden? While we are forced to fund abortion, payforpiss Christ, and are not allowed to pray publicly. Interesting take on the first amendment.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (cQpP1)

29 ad....dammit.

Posted by: © Sponge at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (nDcVA)

30 I will cut off one Muslim's head a day unless I get to sleep with Christina Hendricks! I talking at you Nanny B!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (84oau)

31 Allah spelled backwards is challah
Just sayin'...

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (6/bOE)

32 Oh look! An ad showing some lady skin!





I'll complain after I jack off.

A few times.

Posted by: Mohamed at September 28, 2012 04:53 PM (R18D0)

33 27 New York City.

Never to see an add with an offensive 32 oz. drink ever again.
Posted by: © Sponge at September 28, 2012 04:52 PM (nDcVA)


I should patent a 31.5 oz. soft drink cup.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2012 04:53 PM (+tqYo)

34 Rommy sux! Bad! Where my SEIU check?!

Posted by: Obamaphonegirl at September 28, 2012 04:53 PM (wIgpo)

35 Ads that target a homicidal Religion: Bad Posted by: cajun carrot

As it had to be pointed out yesterday, it doesn't even do that.

No where in the ad does it say religion, muslim, or islam.

It's a rephrasing of Prager's saying, "There are only two races of humanity; the civilized and the uncivilized."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 28, 2012 04:53 PM (CdCPN)

36 >>>I say once again: I cannot think of any move which encourages Islamic tendencies towards violence and jihad in the name of "God" than actually sanctifying Islam's protected place in our own goddamned laws.


You act like resisting the Jihad and the Word of The Prophet of Allah is something we should be allowed to do. Like not being a Sharia nation was an option.

You haven't watched "The Project" have you?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (0q2P7)

37 @28

And here's the thing, the ad is actually an Ayn Rand quote and it doesn't mention islam at all it mentions jihad.


Posted by: General Woundwort at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (06lNq)

38 It seems like if the city is going to be a part of a commerical relationship, such as selling ad space on MTA lines, they ought to have some say so as to what gets put up on its property.....

The real issue seems to be how fair they will be in regards to enforcement of the new laws.

Posted by: taylork at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (ppNDn)

39 For Bloomberg, a 32 oz Bacon Big Gulp, with an Israeli flag on it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (+tqYo)

40 Oh look! An ad showing some lady skin!


Hey, by the MTA's logic, since I'm uncovered cat meat, I deserve to be raped.



Posted by: alexthechick - Stop. SMOD time. at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (VtjlW)

41 One psycho bitch with a can of spray paint can make a difference!

In a liberal city of sheeple.


It is truly astonishing how quickly rich, expensively educated liberal elites will lick the boots of the most primitive savages. It's almost as if the elites are little more than savages themselves, grasping and grubbing for money and power in the tiny confines of an asphalt wasteland.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (AZGON)

42 I was the one person that didn't like the ad here(word usage), but in no way is it inciting violence.

Yet another reason to hate NYC.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (xAtAj)

43 21 My take http://bit.ly/Px1Sd7

From earlier today.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 28, 2012 04:50 PM (/eBe

Eltahawy! Eltahawy! Eltahawy! Eltahawy! Eltahawy! Eltahawy!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (84oau)

44

*wonders if Mayor Bloomberg will undergo a cliterectomy as a sign of solidarity.

Posted by: MJ at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (TR60b)

45
Eighty five days left.
Just saying.

Posted by: Maya Calendar at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (6v/Tu)

46 Y'all ever think Bloomberg ran as a Republican just so he could tar the entire party as a bunch of nanny-statwee fuckwits like him?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (aHR5E)

47 DOOM .... it's just around the corner.


Posted by: Myan Calendar at September 28, 2012 04:49 PM (ycm4Q)



I'm starting to get a "F*ck it let's do this thing!" attitude.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (0q2P7)

48 unless I get to sleep with Christina Hendricks!

There will be sleep involved?

Posted by: Myan Calendar at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (ycm4Q)

49 "statwee?"

Urgh.

STATE.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (aHR5E)

50 I bet chuckie johanssen has a boner.

Posted by: Redd at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (guxHP)

51 And here's the thing, the ad is actually an Ayn Rand quote and it doesn't mention islam at all it mentions jihad.


Posted by: General Woundwort at September 28, 2012 04:54 PM (06lNq)


You expect Obamaphonegirl to know all that?

Surely you jest.

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 28, 2012 04:56 PM (UZQM8)

52 The required disclaimer is also a clear violation of free speech.

They've (the fascist left) have already had their asses handed to them when they went for scolding and shame "warnings" to be posted on cigarette packages.

But. They. Do. Not. Fucking. Stop.

They will not stop until everyone agrees with them whether they want to or not.


Posted by: RoyalOil at September 28, 2012 04:56 PM (imtbm)

53
Isn't the point of civilization to give the advantage to the good over evil? I guess whoever acts worse fucking wins in civilization. FUCK

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 28, 2012 04:56 PM (tsC/8)

54 *snicker*

Posted by: G.Orwell at September 28, 2012 04:56 PM (AWmfW)

55 Nothing suprises me after the country elected the next President after the occurrence of 9/11 with the name Hussein who had a muslim father and a muslim step fatherand went to a muslim school until he was 10 and traveled to muslim countries with his muslim friendsin college and proclaimedin his memoir thathe would side withIslam and that the Islamic prayer is the most beautiful sound that he has heard. Nothing suprises me anymore.

Posted by: polynikes at September 28, 2012 04:56 PM (m2CN7)

56
I am spinning so fast, I'm going to be sick.

Posted by: Ben Franklin at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (TR60b)

57 It is truly astonishing how quickly rich, expensively educated liberal elites will lick the boots of the most primitive savages.
-
That sounds suspiciously like Edward Gibbon, because that is exactly how Rome fell.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (cQpP1)

58 >>>Allah thinks that means other viewpoint ads

OH you mean the other Allah, over at tepid air. You know you really ought to be more specific on these Sharia threads

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (0q2P7)

59 48 unless I get to sleep with Christina Hendricks!

There will be sleep involved?
Posted by: Myan Calendar at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (ycm4Q)

I was trying to keep the blog a little tasteful before the "Adult Swim" cesspool of the ONT

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (84oau)

60 Do the leftards in New York actually think this shit is going to stop the next attack? I forsee a mushroom cloud over Manhatten.

Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (OlN4e)

61 The left are totalitarian freaks.

Posted by: Z Ryan at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (tsC/8)

62 If NYC is attacked yet again and they ask for help, I will answer "NYC who?"

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (Fh+xS)

63 I guess they're now going to apologize to Attah's family for building those two tall buildings

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (6/bOE)

64
I put it up there at number one so you guys would at least remember it.

Number one, people. Not five. Not two.

One.

Posted by: James Madison at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (TR60b)

65 The beatings will continue until piety improves.

Posted by: Sheikh Mike al-Bloomberg at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (AZGON)

66 62 If NYC is attacked yet again and they ask for help, I will answer "NYC who?"
Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 04:57 PM (Fh+xS)

I live here and let me be the first to say I won't hold it against you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (+tqYo)

67 19 I just find it very surprising that a decade after Muslims unleash horrific violence on us, they are now protected rather than despised.

It's almost like, in some parallel 1950's, we elected a Nazi president. It's just baffling.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 28, 2012 04:50 PM (DuH+r)

I don't. The Bible calls it 'strong delusion,' that is, believing lies.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (Su0W2)

68 I forsee a mushroom cloud over Manhatten.

---

I'm almost to the point where I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

Almost.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (aHR5E)

69
What's next?

All ads for Republican Candidates will be declared..."Insulting to Islam".
....or "Hate Speech".

Posted by: wheatie at September 28, 2012 04:58 PM (l5RhJ)

70 OK, so the new "Piss Christ" exhibit can't be advertised on NYC's subways, right? Because it's offensive to Christians, right?

Or how about someone proposing to post an ad on NYC subways *objecting* to the "Piss Christ" exhibit...

Will the prospect of "liberals" and muzzies objecting to the *objections* be considered within the "fighting words" restriction, and thus such an ad be rejected?

It's stupidity all the way down...


Posted by: Jim Sonweed at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (2c1Cq)

71 I remember a story in the Alky Anon book that talks of the play writer who goes crazy because "why can't they just do what I tell them to do?"


Libs are TFG.

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (UZQM8)

72 I bet chuckie johanssen has a boner.

Posted by: Redd at September 28, 2012 04:55 PM (guxHP)

The dude gets a chubby from bike wheels and fence post pictures.

Posted by: YIKES! at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (6v/Tu)

73 We don't dare put up anything that may offend or provoke adherents of the Religion of Peace because they are so peaceful and stuff. On a more infuriating note, tell me again why my husband is overseas fighting militant Islamists when we are surrendering the damn homeland.

Posted by: no good deed at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (mjR67)

74 Where's the ACLU?

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (0muQ0)

75 I don't have a link, but I read a quote form Gellar saying she's fine with this because she can still run her ad with the required disclaimer. I don't know if she's right about that or just being optimistic.

Posted by: mikesixes at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (JTqx9)

76 And where is Mr Jew himself, Ed Krotch on this?
Guess he's too busy kissing up to his new boyfriend Barry
"A shandah..."

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (6/bOE)

77 If NYC is attacked yet again and they ask for help

I will be unable to return your call, please leave a message.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (AZGON)

78 Now, I suppose even liberals would understand the problem with this, if this "rule" were being generally applied.


I wouldn't bet your house on that.

Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (N2yhW)

79 All ads for Republican Candidates will be declared ..."Hate Speech".

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They're not already?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (aHR5E)

80 "I'm starting to get a "F*ck it let's do this thing!" attitude."


yea, me too.

Posted by: Paladin at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (ycm4Q)

81 I'm trying to think of an ideology which has incited more violence than jihad and all I can come up with is various forms of socialism. Did the Mongols have an ideology?

Posted by: Beagle at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (sOtz/)

82 @52

It goes deeper than than just agreeing with them, you must conform and move in the direction they tell you to at their whim, with regards to everything.

You cannot be an independent person or individual in their world view, you are part of the collective, much like the human batteries in the matrix.

Posted by: General Woundwort at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (06lNq)

83 Now, the MTA says she can't run that ad because some people will be unable to restrain themselves from committing acts of violence and mayhem.
Which people?
The savages?

No, stupid. The civilized men, who are incapable of resisting their urge to physically assault someone over printed words .... oh, screw it.

Posted by: Daniel Simpson Day at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (aA2hG)

84 75 I don't have a link, but I read a quote form Gellar saying she's fine with this because she can still run her ad with the required disclaimer. I don't know if she's right about that or just being optimistic.
Posted by: mikesixes at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (JTqx9)

She's being optimistic, soon they'll pass a law where the disclaimer will have to be bigger than the text of the poster...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 28, 2012 05:01 PM (84oau)

85 Free speech? Never heard of it....

The once Great Country, America....

Posted by: the pink not panicking, but I hate the MSM,about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 28, 2012 05:01 PM (9+ccr)

86 Did the Mongols have an ideology?

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Does "rape, loot, and pillage" count?

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (aHR5E)

87 >>>Did the Mongols have an ideology?

All your wimminz and foods are belong to us. Not too much different than socialism.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (0q2P7)

88 hey new york....fuck islam!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl,

...and fuck NYC too. You give up your right to be "America's City". Stoopid humps.

Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (N2yhW)

89 Anyone remember the grief that Rudy got because he refused to fund the dung covered Madonna 'art' ? Fuck NYC. If you are a conservative NYC person, do your best to leave that city.

Posted by: polynikes at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (m2CN7)

90 Savages have rights too, I guess.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (QKKT0)

91 The dude gets a chubby from bike wheels and fence post pictures.
Posted by: YIKES! at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (6v/Tu) That talentless hack could make Marilyn Monroe nudes boring.

Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (OlN4e)

92 81 I'm trying to think of an ideology which has incited more violence than jihad and all I can come up with is various forms of socialism. Did the Mongols have an ideology?
Posted by: Beagle at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (sOtz/)

One day in the pavilion at Karakorum he [Genghis Kahn] asked an officer of the Mongol guard what, in all the world, could bring the greatest happiness.

"The open steppe, a clear day, and a swift horse under you," responded the officer after a little thought, "and a falcon on your wrist to start up hares."

"Nay," responded the Kahn, "to crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet -- to take their horses and goods and hear the lamentation of their women. That is best."

Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (84oau)

93 Crusade

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (cQpP1)

94 some people will be unable to restrain themselves from committing acts of violence and mayhem.

We used to have places for those kind of people...they were known as mental institutions and prisons for the criminally insane.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 28, 2012 05:03 PM (bLEJy)

95 If EoJ were here, perhaps he would advise us to embrace the hate. Firmly, unapologetically. Pull it by its hair and force your tongue down its throat.

Hate, you is my bitch now.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 05:03 PM (AZGON)

96 "Nay," responded the Kahn, "to crush your enemies, to see them fall at your feet -- to take their horses and goods and hear the lamentation of their women. That is best."

JA!!!

Posted by: Ahnuld at September 28, 2012 05:03 PM (aHR5E)

97
What about..."Support Gay Marriage"?

Aren't those 'fighting words' that are 'insulting to muslims', too?

Posted by: wheatie at September 28, 2012 05:03 PM (l5RhJ)

98 test:
bold[\b]

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (izA2D)

99 If anyone denies in public that Jesus of Nazareth, born in Bethlehem in the land of Israel, is Lord and Savior and indeed God himself made flesh, was put to death for our sins, after which He rose on the third day, ascended to God the Father where He is seated awaiting His return to judge the earth and all mankind, I shall have no choice but to burn down their home and kill the head of household. I will not be able to restrain myself from doing so. I would suggest you act accordingly.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (P6QsQ)

100 91
The dude gets a chubby from bike wheels and fence post pictures.
Posted by: YIKES! at September 28, 2012 04:59 PM (6v/Tu) That talentless hack could make Marilyn Monroe nudes boring.

Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2012 05:02 PM (OlN4e)

So is Little Green Spitballs still in operation?

Posted by: the pink not panicking, but I hate the MSM,about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (9+ccr)

101 It's always us rednecks' fault.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (GFM2b)

102 Did the Mongols have an ideology?
Posted by: Beagle at September 28, 2012 05:00 PM (sOtz/)
--
They just looted, and exacted tribute. Pretty much identical to socialists, democrats, and muslims.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (cQpP1)

103 99 If anyone denies in public that Jesus of Nazareth, born in Bethlehem in the land of Israel, is Lord and Savior and indeed God himself made flesh, was put to death for our sins, after which He rose on the third day, ascended to God the Father where He is seated awaiting His return to judge the earth and all mankind, I shall have no choice but to burn down their home and kill the head of household. I will not be able to restrain myself from doing so. I would suggest you act accordingly.
Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (P6QsQ)


Let's roll.

Posted by: baldilocks at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (Su0W2)

104 The fact that it needs a disclaimer is so absurd, when you have muslim schools with text books that call Jews and unbelievers dogs and pigs; it's just unbelievable what is happening.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (GvYeG)

105
Did the Mongols have an ideology?


We win, you lose.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (bLEJy)

106

You mean ill-tempered a$sholes can get the government shut up
opinions they don't like just because they're ill-tempered a$sholes? That
doesn't seem fair.

Posted by: Even-tempered A$shole at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (Rrc6j)

107 >>>Posted by: Tim the Enchanter

Backslashes don't exist in internet land. Try forward slashes next time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (0q2P7)

108 THE LACK OF BALLS ON THESE GUYS!

Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (QupBk)

109 99 Amen, mama winger.

Posted by: Rodney Dangerfield at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (mjR67)

110 Libs- My right to publicly display photos of me with objects in my rectum is absolute! It is enshrined in the 1st Amendment1

Your right to hate speech has it's limits!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (pjT+p)

111 And so it begins....

Fuck New York and the hell with Islam and insulting Mohammed.

Posted by: mpfs at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (iYbLN)

112 "Did the Mongols have an ideology?"

Mongols first...everybody else back of the line.

Posted by: Paladin at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (ycm4Q)

113 19 It's almost like, in some parallel 1950's, we elected a Nazi president.

Not a nazi. Just a muslim.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (GFM2b)

114 And where is Mr Jew himself, Ed Krotch on this? Guess he's too busy kissing up to his new boyfriend Barry "A shandah..."

I believe he is supporting Mitt Romney.

Posted by: fluffy at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (3SvjA)

115 I have this ad I want to run on the IRT. It shows two guys dressed like Muhammed, frenching each other while standing in front of a pink altar, while a minister in dog collar and spiked heels look on approvingly. It's for a new bagel shop, so no disclaimer necessary.

What?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Harry Reid is a pederast and a strangler at September 28, 2012 05:07 PM (AZGON)

116 So is Little Green Spitballs still in operation?
Posted by: the pink not panicking, but I hate the MSM,about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (9+ccr) If you call a conga line of sychopants lined up to scarf Chucky's micro winkie operation I suppose so....

Posted by: maddogg at September 28, 2012 05:07 PM (OlN4e)

117 RE "fighting words", I thought that was used as a defense in criminal cases (for instance, I call somebody's mother a whore and they punch me in the face but they are acquitted on assault because of "fighting words"). Isn't what NYC doing here a prior restraint on speech and unconstitutional?

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at September 28, 2012 05:07 PM (KSjsb)

118 The Terrorists Veto, enshrined by the city that brought you the Criminals' Veto (Sullivan Act, Sullivan was a crime boss, ran gangs that complained of armed victims (among other reasons for that execrable "law")).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 28, 2012 05:08 PM (bxiXv)

119
People are misinterpreting the article.
All ads that are explicitly commercial continue as before.
All ads that are NOT explicitly commercial (i.e., political) have to have the notice on them, the disclaimer that says this political ad isn't endorced by the authority.
That's it.

Posted by: Fred at September 28, 2012 05:08 PM (C+qQ0)

120 >>>Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:04 PM (P6QsQ)

All we gotta do is change the vernacular from Crusade and Inquisition to Jihad and Fatwa and we are golden!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:08 PM (0q2P7)

121
*wonders if the next violent media sensation will be tied to political speech, then used as a basis to ban that speech...

Nah.

Posted by: MJ at September 28, 2012 05:09 PM (TR60b)

122 I hope Romney doesn't shoot from the hip on this issue. Criticizing the MTA's policies when they're just trying to keep people safe would be like giving a gay kid an involuntary haircut, or tying a dog to the roof of a car. Not being able to post a subway ad might inconvenience some people, but not as bad as being fired from a job and having one's wife die from lack of insurance while horses who own elevators dance on her head.

Posted by: Francois at September 28, 2012 05:09 PM (tNwd1)

123 It would appear that the survival gene has been effectively bred out of liberals.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 28, 2012 05:09 PM (vbh31)

124 Holy crap! I guess we all might aswell start learning which direction Mecca is from where we live. Geez.

Posted by: runningrn at September 28, 2012 05:09 PM (WGmy2)

125 So ... what can be done to stop this trend?

BTW, last week a couple California radio jocks called for people to make more anti-Muhammad videos and the station pulled them off the air the next day.

Posted by: Blasphemy Jones at September 28, 2012 05:09 PM (ZPrif)

126 Boycotting the NYC subway will be very easy for me.

Posted by: fluffy at September 28, 2012 05:10 PM (3SvjA)

127 The very sad part about this is that New Yorkers are putting up with this and all the other nanny-state, dictatorial edicts from it's most revered government. They've given up. They act like they don't want to be Americans anymore.

Well, then I will stop thinking of them as fellow Americans. If NYC is attacked again, don't hold out your hand to me. Seek help from Iran.

Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2012 05:10 PM (E2I3C)

128 I could never guess when, but I believe some day, there is going to be a spontaneous crusade. A breaking point will arise, but the good news is we seem to be way behind Britain in their subjugation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 28, 2012 05:10 PM (PHb2k)

129 >>>All ads that are NOT explicitly commercial

Make a foundation to stop the spread of Sharia. Put the donations phone number at the end. No disclaimer, you are now a commercial.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:10 PM (0q2P7)

130 I guess us Christians I should start killing Mohammedans to earn our protected class status.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (SzAZ7)

131 123 It would appear that the survival gene has been effectively bred out of liberals.


Works for me.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (GFM2b)

132 Isn't what NYC doing here a prior restraint on speech and unconstitutional?

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at September 28, 2012 05:07 PM (KSjsb)


Well, yeah.

On the other hand, Kelo. The Dread Judge Roberts. Miller, Gates, asset forfeiture.

I wish I knew what to do to reign in the sociopaths, who always seem to rise to the top.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (bxiXv)

133 @74 ACLU on their prayer mats facing east.

Posted by: Love Reggie at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (yU1Dt)

134 What's interesting to me about this re-interpretation of the 1st Amendment in light of the directive that "the future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam" is how the liberal Supreme Court justices will see it, when it gets there, which it will....

Posted by: TD at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (DQMcq)

135 Happy Friday to everyone. Having my first glass of wine and trying to stay calm.

Posted by: Spypeach at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (pwTow)

136 New York City. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

Posted by: toby won kenobi at September 28, 2012 05:11 PM (QupBk)

137 So one is to assume that every otherad has the implied endorsement of the authority. EvenMY idiot lawyer would see the problem with that.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 28, 2012 05:12 PM (Rrc6j)

138
Fred at September 28, 2012 05:08 PM (C+qQ0)***
*
So what does this mean?
*
Pam can continue to put up ads like she did. "Support the Civilized man over the Savage."
*
But her ad will have the disclaimer that it isn't endorsed by the government.

Posted by: Fred at September 28, 2012 05:12 PM (C+qQ0)

139 BTW, last week a couple California radio jocks called for people to make more anti-Muhammad videos and the station pulled them off the air the next day.

You know who CAIR hates? This guy >>> http://michaelgraham.com/

Posted by: fluffy at September 28, 2012 05:12 PM (3SvjA)

140 whatever happened to cultural confidence? White guilt is destroying america. That's what this is, you know.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 28, 2012 05:13 PM (QxSug)

141 Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Get them losers a' rollin'
An' if there's some pollin'
Dumb 'em up, shit 'em out

AXEL-HIDE!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 28, 2012 05:13 PM (CdCPN)

142 Either that, or I will pray for you and possibly bring you a nice hotdish when you are out of work and take care of your children when you are sick.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:14 PM (P6QsQ)

143 I hate these fucking people. They don't get it. They just don't fucking get it.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at September 28, 2012 05:14 PM (GrtrJ)

144 75 mikesixes,

Gellar said she didn't object to the disclaimer requirement, as long as it was evenly enforced. What she didn't know at the time was this new 'incitement' clause was also being added to their policy, which they will now use to ban her ads once again.

Also note, this clause will have the effect of ONLY banning her ads and no one else's. At least for now. It was written with her ad in mind.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2012 05:15 PM (ccXZP)

145
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:10 PM
*
No. That is not commercial speech. That is political speech. So it still gets to be posted. But it has a disclaimer on it, saying the authority doesn't endorse it.

Posted by: Fred at September 28, 2012 05:15 PM (C+qQ0)

146 Pam Gellar's ad is "demeaning," it is asserted, because it implies that violent, intolerant Salafists are "savage."
--
Actually, it proves that salafists know what they are.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 28, 2012 05:15 PM (cQpP1)

147 Biden campaigns on free colonoscopies for seniors in Florida.
I shit you not.

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Posted by: USA at September 28, 2012 05:15 PM (RIg+t)

148
This will be litigated to the Supreme Court if it adopted more widely, or actually used to limit speech, not just place non-endorsement stickers on the material.

How comfortable are you with an Obama court on this one?

Posted by: MJ at September 28, 2012 05:15 PM (TR60b)

149 Putting that disclaimer on the ads is a stroke of genius. What really enrages Islamofascists is not the blaspheming of their prophet, but the idea that a municipal public benefit corporation responsible for commuter transportation endorses such attacks.

Posted by: Average Joe at September 28, 2012 05:16 PM (bN5ZU)

150 >>>Did the Mongols have an ideology?

Joking aside, sort of. They hated urbanity. Genghis was Khan of all peoples of the tent and he required them to not get too civilised, so any governors he left behind were made to rotate back to the steppes once in awhile. So they wouldn't get soft and pass dumbass laws that capitulate to enemies like NYC does.

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 05:16 PM (RLTt1)

151 People are misinterpreting the article.

Posted by: Fred at September 28, 2012 05:08 PM (C+qQ0)


I think some people are thinking this is an outright ban, most of us are reacting to the fact that they appear to *want* an outright ban, but the court said no, so they're working on ways to get around it.

The quotes from the people involved in the "original" article are instructive.

I mean, they rejected it in the first place, thus the court case. You can't argue they don't intent to restrict speech, they *DID*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 28, 2012 05:16 PM (bxiXv)

152 There's a bigger issue here than restrictions on speech specifically regarding Islam. For years, I think, the Left--which is now in charge of the federal government--has been seeking ways to implement hate speech laws in the United States similar to those in Europe and--until recently--Canada. The 1st Amendment is a huge obstacle to the enactment of such hate speech laws; that is, unless a way could be found through or around it.

Enter the 'fighting words' exception.If they can pass the equivalent of an anti-blasphemy law (against solely Islam, of course), then they could widen the breech incrementally to encompass any speech critical of other 'protected' groups, as well as the federal government itself. Truly, the ideologues behind these maneuvers could give a damn about hate speech. That 'hate speech' business is pap for the masses, a supremely cynical rationale. What they care about is the danger free speech presents to their hold on power.

Marxist socialism is inherently authoritarian. Authoritarian states cannot abide unhindered free speech. If the 1st Amendment can be subverted, all else follows.

Posted by: troyriser at September 28, 2012 05:16 PM (vtiE6)

153 Apparently, it's the word 'savage' that NYC opposes.

Vic put a link up this morning about half a dozen girls in Chester, Pa who laughed while they beat the shit out of a retarded woman sitting on her front step. They recorded themselves on their (possibly free) phones, then posted their little adventure on Facebook. The reporter called it a 'savage beating' the Police Commissioner said "that's one of the more horrific, savage attacks I've seen".

So, do we need to wash that word from our vocabulary? Winston Smith available?

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 28, 2012 05:16 PM (feFL6)

154 I am late to thread due to cooking supper so this may have already been covered, but the Supremes not too long ago struck down a hate speech law that congress had passed. It was similar to this shit.


I don't remember the case but it was similar to this shit. But once again it is up to some poor schmuck to get the money to challenge it in court. The ACLU will never take this case.

Posted by: Vic at September 28, 2012 05:17 PM (YdQQY)

155 so, today's the day we abandoned the war on terror

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 28, 2012 05:17 PM (QxSug)

156
1955: Rosa Parks remains seated - leads to Civil Rights progress.

2012: Mona Eltahawy defaces poster. Imposes Sharia in NY Subway.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 28, 2012 05:18 PM (il+Xn)

157 >>>It would appear that the survival gene has been effectively bred out of liberals.

That should have been apparent to you when they embraced the wholesale killing of their offspring. They are the rot in the West's rotting house as MB would say. They are what makes us beatable both philosophically and through war. Islam means "submit" they know nothing else.

Like I said, prior to my beheading I'm going to remind every homosexual in line with me "Hey all I said was your relationship wasn't a 'marriage' I didn't care about it otherwise" after I'm beheaded, I'm going to be in the beyond laughing my ass off at the slut walk feminazis as the burqas get passed out.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:18 PM (0q2P7)

158 the Supremes not too long ago struck down a hate speech law that congress had passed. It was similar to this shit.

------------


Slap a tax on "hate speech" violations. The court will go for that.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:18 PM (P6QsQ)

159
The first question asked of any civil servant, before they are sworn to uphold the Constitution should be: Are you a pussy? Cuz if you are, you're gonna fuck it up for everyone. You dig?

It should also be asked in an Eddie Murphy, channeling a pimp, voice.

Posted by: MJ at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (TR60b)

160 Headline should read: NYC Surrenders

Posted by: USA at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (RIg+t)

161 My cans of Krylon are locked and loaded. I'm gonna massively deface me some "Book of Mormon" ad posters.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (PH+2B)

162 Well its kind of a weasel lawyer trick they did. They didn't ban these ads, they just said "you have to put something on it saying this isn't endorsed by us" if the ad might reasonably be expected to incite violence.

So they can run these ads, just with a disclaimer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (r4wIV)

163 So, do we need to wash that word from our vocabulary? Winston Smith available?

I cannot respond to you because Big Brother has declared you an Unperson.

Posted by: Winston Smith at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (AZGON)

164 As for the ACLU, someone posted somewhere (here, maybe?) that the whole organization is run by Muslims now. So yeah, no word from them.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (DuH+r)

165 Good god. Let us hope our 9 Black-Robed Overlords will continue to treat the "fighting words" exception as a dead one.

Posted by: Rich at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (TOgQZ)

166
> 155 so, today's the day we abandoned lost the war on terror
Posted by: joeindc44


FTFY

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM (il+Xn)

167 PS - This Rob Lowe character surprised me. He would have been close to my last guess as to any actor espousing even one conservative idea.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 28, 2012 05:20 PM (PHb2k)

168 Vic. Someone pointed out yesterday that the Muzzies have co-opted the ACLU. Forget them and their hypocrisy.

Posted by: Love Reggie at September 28, 2012 05:21 PM (yU1Dt)

169 I think the time for armed revolution is fast approaching.

Posted by: MrShad at September 28, 2012 05:22 PM (Xqfwb)

170 Ace: ...."Irony: Pam Gellar's ad is "demeaning," it is asserted, because it implies that violent, intolerant Salafists are "savage." Her ad states something like, "In a struggle between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.""

Ace,
The actual Gellar Ad, is featured in that video you posted on Wednesday.
The one showing that Mona Eltahaway creature, trying to spray paint it.

The Ad said:

"In any War between the Civilized Man and the Savage,
Support the Civilized Man.
Support Israel.
Defeat Jihad."

Posted by: wheatie at September 28, 2012 05:22 PM (l5RhJ)

171 Apparently, violence is a "race" now.

The whole "code words" thing didn't work out, so the new tack is to declare everything in the world a race.

Reminds me of Red vs. Blue and Andy the Talking Bomb declaring criticism "racist," followed by Church scream "BOMBS ARE NOT A RACE!"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 28, 2012 05:22 PM (bxiXv)

172 Uh, I've always thought New Yorkers were tough, brash, and opinionated. Do they still think they are or do they realize what c**ts they are turning into?

Posted by: ejo at September 28, 2012 05:22 PM (JrgyL)

173 Uh, didn't Mona dear refer to herself as a "proud Savage" using the hashtag #ProudSavage in one of her tweets? SO if she's proud to be a savage, then the MTA ad should be no biggie, right?

More like Mona has the right to behave like a savage, but don't you DARE call her one, raaaacist!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 28, 2012 05:23 PM (XDfSm)

174 @165

Think about this, If Obama gets re-elected he will probably get to name 3 more Supreme Court Justices and 1000's of lower court judges.

***SHUDDER***

Posted by: General Woundwort at September 28, 2012 05:23 PM (06lNq)

175 The actual "fighting words" case was Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942). The fighting words were very narrowly defined.


Without this being a "tax" it will not pass court muster.

Posted by: Vic at September 28, 2012 05:23 PM (YdQQY)

176 This Rob Lowe character surprised me. He would have been close to my
last guess as to any actor espousing even one conservative idea.

---------

Me too. Good for him.

If the members of the media had two brain cells to rub together, they could figure out that conservative actors will draw tons of fan support, conservative movies will draw tons of money, and conservative newspapers would corner the market.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:23 PM (P6QsQ)

177 Nope, Kock will piss and moan about Obama and then go tell jews to vote for him.

Posted by: ejo at September 28, 2012 05:24 PM (JrgyL)

178 How comfortable are you with an Obama court on this one?
Posted by: MJ at September 28, 2012 05:15 PM (TR60b)


---------------------------------------------


IF that ever happens, I predict that it would be the last straw with many states. The split from the union would begin there.

Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2012 05:24 PM (E2I3C)

179 114 And where is Mr Jew himself, Ed Krotch on this? Guess he's too busy kissing up to his new boyfriend Barry "A shandah..."I believe he is supporting Mitt Romney.
Posted by: fluffy at September 28, 2012 05:06 PM (3SvjA)
Nope,he's an Obama bitch.

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 28, 2012 05:24 PM (6/bOE)

180 This proves that terrorism works. If members of other religions don't want to be run over roughshod by detractors, they apparently must resort to the same tactics used by islamists.

That is the lesson we are learning more and more every day.

Posted by: Marmo at September 28, 2012 05:24 PM (QW+AD)

181 As I said years ago, in the end Islam and we will lose. Period.

Fighting against it is just buying time.

Islam is a brilliantly designed, if violent, set of memes, and the memes of capitalism, the American founding, etc., although powerful in their own right, just aren't powerful enough when compared.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:24 PM (u8eBQ)

182 Think about this, If Obama gets re-elected he will probably get to name 3
more Supreme Court Justices and 1000's of lower court judges.

------------

We will never be rid of them and the damage they will do. Remember how many cases rely on "precedent". So they set the precedent with this next round of judges and we are stuck with this crap for the rest of our lives.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:25 PM (P6QsQ)

183
great zing on E Warren just now on Howie Carr's chump line

Posted by: soothsayer at September 28, 2012 05:25 PM (FC8Yl)

184 157 Like I said, prior to my beheading


I'll never make it to my beheading. The goat fuckers are going to have to look me in the eyes as they shoot me. Because I WILL be shooting them at that point.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2012 05:25 PM (U0YpZ)

185 I knew all along that we should've been kicking the asses of flag burners and those Westboro "Baptist" "Church" freaks.

Posted by: Andy at September 28, 2012 05:25 PM (UjSt7)

186 Manipulators always start with "just this one little thing" the slippery slope as it were. One thing becomes another, and another, until they have you at their beck and call. When a manipulator asks for that one thing no matter how small, you have to come back and say NO WAY!!!!!!11!!1!1!1 That is the least painful way to keep your freedom. Once you start appeasing it is 10 times harder to stop, and as for your freedom once you have lost it, it is 1000 times harder to get back.


Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:25 PM (0q2P7)

187
The actual "fighting words" case was Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire (1942). The fighting words were very narrowly defined.


Without this being a "tax" it will not pass court muster.

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And as far as I recall it's just about the only case that has actually used "fighting words" to uphold an anti-speech law. Every other time someone tried to use the exception, they didn't buy it.

That said, I guarantee you there are at least three members of this current court who will, all of a sudden, find Chaplinsky useful again for the first time in 70 years.

Posted by: Rich at September 28, 2012 05:25 PM (TOgQZ)

188 *Islam will win

I meant to say.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:26 PM (u8eBQ)

189 We will never be rid of them and the damage they will do. Remember how many cases rely on "precedent".


Stare Decisis only applies when conservatives wish to overturn a really bad ruling.

Posted by: Vic at September 28, 2012 05:26 PM (YdQQY)

190 >>
Uh, I've always thought New Yorkers were tough, brash, and opinionated.

So? They aren't Americans. We should formalize that, honestly. And, as an Upstater, I'd be glad to see them finally get the fk lost.

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 05:27 PM (RLTt1)

191 I am watching Porlandia which is mildly funny if you like improv stuff (frankly, I'm not a big fan). It creeps me out because it has lefties pegged so accurately.

Posted by: Redd at September 28, 2012 05:27 PM (guxHP)

192 Islam will win
.


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It will not. I stake my life on that.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:27 PM (P6QsQ)

193 Intrade has Obama at 72% and Romney 28%

sorry guys

Posted by: walter at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (a+BXY)

194 Romney better bring some balls back to the WH. This shit has to be denounced, ridiculed, and then apparently explained as why a catastrophically bad idea. This "civility" ain't all its cracked up to be.

Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (N2yhW)

195 @182

Yep.

If Obama wins it will be the Obama court minimum 5-4 with the Roberts wild card for a 6-3 lock on judicial precedent for a generation.

GAME!

OVER!

Posted by: General Woundwort at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (06lNq)

196
Posted by: Redd at September 28, 2012 05:27 PM (guxHP)

The Battlestar Galactica skit had me crying with laughter.

"Women and Women First" bookstore is always a good one too.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (xAtAj)

197 Walter tells jokes.

Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (N2yhW)

198 >>> IF that ever happens, I predict that it would be the last straw with many states. The split from the union would begin there.

>>> Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2012 05:24 PM

I'm not interested in wat some fantasy-land right-wing nutbar says.

This is closer to the truth:
http://bit.ly/Sj4LxC

>>> "The land of the free and the home of the brave”?

>>> It once was but not any more. Now it’s the opposite.

>>> VorDaj on September 28, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (u8eBQ)

199 193
Intrade has Obama at 72% and Romney 28%

sorry guys


Posted by: walter at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (a+BXY)

Oh noes I'm scared!

Posted by: the pink not panicking, but I hate the MSM,about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 28, 2012 05:29 PM (9+ccr)

200 sorry guys


Posted by: walter at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (a+BXY)

---------
For what? Did you make a stinky again in your pants?

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:29 PM (P6QsQ)

201 193
Intrade has Obama at 72% and Romney 28%

sorry guys


Posted by: walter at September 28, 2012 05:28 PM (a+BXY)

Time to buy some shares.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 45% more DOOM! at September 28, 2012 05:29 PM (xAtAj)

202 **It would appear that the survival gene has been effectively bred out of liberals.**

um no, the crazy ass savages and the liberals are co-combatants. they don't care

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 28, 2012 05:29 PM (QxSug)

203 "It will not. I stake my life on that."

I am sure they will accept your proposal.

Savages speak only in violence. They can be spoken to only in violence. Sp far, we are not yet willing to converse with them in the language they understand.

Posted by: MrShad at September 28, 2012 05:30 PM (Xqfwb)

204
I remember...this time last year...that Pamela Gellar was declaring that Rick Perry was a "Dhimmi".

Which was completely ridiculous.

Well, she's got some very real 'Dhimmification' going on right now, to point to....with NYC officially becoming dhimmified.
And with TFG proclaiming his new dhimmi policy to the UN.

I still think that Gellar owes Rick Perry an apology for her screeds against him last year.
But I applaud her for putting these Ads up, in the NY subways.

Posted by: wheatie at September 28, 2012 05:30 PM (l5RhJ)

205 Muhammad fucked little girls.

Ban that NYC aka Pussy Central..

What? Truth hurts?

Islam can suck my dick before i give up my freedom of speech.

Fuck off Islam. Your prophet is a piece of shit.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 28, 2012 05:32 PM (ovpNn)

206 It will not. I stake my life on that.
Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:27 PM (P6QsQ)




Given that most so-called conservatives don't plan toactivelyresist until the muz attempt an overt take over, and even then appear to advocate pulling punches, I'm afraid you're quite right. It seems we're all staking our lives on it.The muz arevermin - lowest of the low - yet webend over backward to pacify them, rather than simply be rid of them (the only right course).It's sickening.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:32 PM (jfeoD)

207 193

No there's some free Obama money for the taking.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 28, 2012 05:32 PM (U0YpZ)

208 mama winger, if Islam is defeated, it won't be by western values anything like they are now, nor will the previous western values of either the ancient Greeks nor the relatively-recent Americans nor anything in between win either. Mostly those memes are depleted anyway, watered down to mush.

Islam might be defeated by some religious-political meme yet more violent and self-policing. What I mean is Islam's killing of their apostates, codifying of permitted lying, and general structure in several similar expansive ways make it incredibly effectively virulent. What they lack in technology they more than make up for in persistent growing pervasiveness.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:32 PM (u8eBQ)

209 I think the article is unclear--perhaps deliberately so, as was the report of Chick Fil-A's bowing to homosexual pressure.

What has happened--as I read it-- is the MTA had a policy of prohibiting ads with "demeaning language." The court through that out (rightfully so). So they were left without a policy. They've now created this new one that will allow them to prohibit some ads and require other ads to say they're not endorsed by the MTA.

Should the MTA try to ban an ad as the one in question, I still don't believe it would be able to under the new policy. In fact, I'm hard-pressed to see under what circumstances you could enforce such a policy because how can a poster "incite imminent violence"? Against whom? The breach must be *immediate*. For example, stirring up Muslims halfway around the world would never meet the fighting words test.

Recall that Westboro Baptist won its case 8-1.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 28, 2012 05:32 PM (M2x4y)

210 But I applaud her for putting these Ads up, in the NY subways.



Posted by: wheatie at September 28, 2012 05:30 PM (l5RhJ)And having a big rack.
That should always be applauded.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 28, 2012 05:33 PM (2b4yb)

211 sorry guys


Posted by: walter


Really an intrade troll? Really? Really? That's what you've got? Intrade? Walter whom at team Obama can I file a complaint with for your weak ass trolling? We deserve better, smarter, more convincing trolls than you.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 28, 2012 05:33 PM (0q2P7)

212 This just in: New York MTA Kicks Winston Churchill Off Subway

Churchill's statement on the matter follows:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient" Rome.

"A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan"

Posted by: OceanusRex at September 28, 2012 05:33 PM (yAI5q)

213 I for one am glad she's not a hater. Otherwise she would have ripped down the poster, tore it up into little pieces and fed them to that woman. And she JUST HAPPENED to have a can of spray paint in her purse. If she's a liberal then why is she so outraged? Preconcieved ideas about Israel? It really is the Israelis fault. Had they obeyed God the first time we wouldn't be in this mess.

Posted by: harleycowboy at September 28, 2012 05:33 PM (wSTfB)

214 O/T on TV a movie called The Tourist was playing.... Angela Jolie and Johnny Depp. Probably the most uncomfortable love scenes since Sommersby.

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 05:34 PM (RLTt1)

215 Islam will win I meant to say.
Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:26 PM (u8eBQ)

Buck up, Sparky. We've faced bigger and badder than this and came through all right.

Posted by: troyriser at September 28, 2012 05:34 PM (vtiE6)

216 I cannot respond to you because Big Brother has declared you an Unperson.

Posted by: Winston Smith at September 28, 2012 05:19 PM


Immediately after 0bama was elected, I called my daughter and asked her to return my well-worn copy of '1984' I had asked her to read. Maybe I didn't ask her so much as plead with her to read it, since she became a soccer mom and moved off to the state of Ohio, where women seem to actually believe very strange things about freedom and liberty, preferring to surrender those concepts in return for gawd-only-knows-what.

I have my copy back, and she's still not read it. Her husband says to give her time, she'll 'get it'.

In the contest of nature vs nurture, where she lived the first 18 years of her life in a conservative, successful household to suddenly become a flaming lib once she changed zip code is beyond my comprehension. But she always liked free stuff.

Posted by: Schrödinger's cat at September 28, 2012 05:34 PM (feFL6)

217 It will not. I stake my life on that.
Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:27 PM (P6QsQ)


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I'll be standing with you, mama.

Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2012 05:34 PM (E2I3C)

218 Islam might be defeated by some religious-political meme yet more violent and self-policing.

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It will be defeated by the very hand of God.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:35 PM (P6QsQ)

219 But I can still get free birth control, right?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke Me at September 28, 2012 05:35 PM (ECYvo)

220 Methodist terrorists hurt the worst.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 28, 2012 05:35 PM (wR+pz)

221
Walter's back to defend the marauding murdering muslims. I'm shocked.

(not really)

Posted by: The Googler at September 28, 2012 05:36 PM (ggRof)

222 It is truly astonishing how quickly rich, expensively educated liberal
elites will lick the boots of the most primitive savages.


We're living in fucking Zardoz.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 28, 2012 05:36 PM (/kI1Q)

223 Remember Fabrizio Quattrocchi:

“This is how an Italian dies!”

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 28, 2012 05:37 PM (IEqKc)

224 So if the towel heads, or someone in their name, he he, take out ads saying death to the gheys, will that be OK?

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 28, 2012 05:37 PM (wR+pz)

225 >>> Buck up, Sparky. We've faced bigger and badder than this and came through all right.
Posted by: troyriser at September 28, 2012 05:34 PM (vtiE6)

Naziism, British Colonialism, and Dictatorial Communism were all ideologies that could be discredited, and societies could move on from them. Even Christianity was effectively superceded by postmodernism and quasi-effective-atheism in practise if not in declaration.

Islam is quite a dfferent animal, and has much deeper structures to self-police and replenish itself.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:37 PM (u8eBQ)

226 Just remember, the only state NOT to sign the Deceleration of Independence?


New York. They haven't changed in 300 years.

Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 28, 2012 05:39 PM (wR+pz)

227 mama winger, if Islam is defeated, it won't be by western values anything like they are now, nor will the previous western values of either the ancient Greeks nor the relatively-recent Americans nor anything in between win either.
Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:32 PM (u8eBQ)



I think you over state our historic pacivity. Rome knew how to deal withpeople who wouldn't lay down, and the way the US was settled - by getting rid of the natives - is also a good examlpe of what our kind can do. We just need to push aside the damn do gooders and do the large amount of killing that needs to be done. Alas, we've had it so good for so long that we can't get over the idea that there are poor widdle kiddies who will have to die. So, instead, we tolerate a situation which will bring death to American children instead.
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I don't know what it will take to shut up the limp wrist bleeding hearts. I like to think that maybe a Beslan incident here in the US might start thingbs rolling, but it's hard to say.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:40 PM (jfeoD)

228 so does this mean we can ban asshole leftist bumper stickers?

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 28, 2012 05:40 PM (QxSug)

229 People are misinterpreting the article.
All ads that are explicitly commercial continue as before.
All
ads that are NOT explicitly commercial (i.e., political) have to have
the notice on them, the disclaimer that says this political ad isn't
endorced by the authority.
That's it.
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Sorry, no. The law is clear.

If they accept any ads without comment, they have to accept ALL ads without comment.

The fact that they are making any distinction based on the content of the ad is . . . .

Well, fuck it. I'm getting damned sick and tired of people saying "well, this little restriction on your rights is ok because . . . ."

Grow up, stand up for yourself and act like a citizen instead of a subject for a change.

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 28, 2012 05:40 PM (imtbm)

230 Patrick Henry weeps.


As he hits 2,000 rpm.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 28, 2012 05:41 PM (BAS5M)

231 Well, then I will stop thinking of them as fellow Americans.
Yeah, this times a bunch.

When you "flyover" the U.S., New York is where you take off from.
While the rest of us were tearing our clothes and lamenting 9/11, Nyaackers were back to mocking us within a few days. Forget them.

There's no reason to hold this new affront against the Musselmen.
Islam has not changed one bit. It's NY that has changed its position.

George Washington abandoned the place. I'm with George.
I will next enter that city at the head of an armored column.

Posted by: comatus at September 28, 2012 05:41 PM (qaVK+)

232 Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:37 PM (u8eBQ)

All right, then. Off to Mecca with you.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski at September 28, 2012 05:41 PM (3SvjA)

233
Since Obama is in love with Islam, I want someone to ask him if he supports honor killings, hanging and stoning of gays, and clitoral mutilation. All those wonderful traditions ...kinda like Mom, Apple Pie and Baseball.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 28, 2012 05:42 PM (GvYeG)

234 In my nic is a link to an interesting summary of court rulings on 'fighting words'. From my reading of this summary, NY doesn't have a leg to stand on if this ordinance reaches the SC.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 28, 2012 05:42 PM (ccXZP)

235 Remember Fabrizio Quattrocchi: “This is how an Italian dies!”
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 28, 2012 05:37 PM (IEqKc)
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His example was a great one. However - I prefer a different slogan. "This is how an American KILLS." Remember what Patton said. You don't win by dying for your country. You win by making the other bastard die for his.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:42 PM (jfeoD)

236 >>>Remember Fabrizio Quattrocchi:



“This is how an Italian dies!”

Pardon, but no. I was hanging out with some Mohawk buds after the first beheading vids came out. They said, "Amateurs". I like that attitude better.

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 05:42 PM (RLTt1)

237 Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 28, 2012 05:39 PM (wR+pz)

Not true.

All colonies signed, although not all representatives from all the colonies signed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 28, 2012 05:43 PM (2b4yb)

238 >>> I think you over state our historic pacivity. Rome knew how to deal withpeople who wouldn't lay down...

Yes, but then Roman society broke down and was replaced by Christianity. I think this is similar, except Islam is much more ruthless than even early Christianity (as it was practised by kings and emperors and popes, etc.)

Further, just like the surrounding Barbarians tactics improved as Romes' stagnated, so too will it be with our enemies.

Eventually. I say by all means fight, but I just don't see how you defeat Islam within our cultural reality. To start with, we permit much greater division.

YES this results in much greater dynamism, a better economy, a more man-per-man effective military (by far), etc., but Islam rarely if ever relinquishes what it gets, and keeps great purity by socially ostracising and/or killing unbelievers within its ranks.

Hell, they've convinced over a billion people to LOVE a mass-murdering pedophile.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:45 PM (u8eBQ)

239 Just remember, the only state NOT to sign the Deceleration of Independence?
New York. They haven't changed in 300 years.


Posted by: Billy Bob, psuedo intellectual at September 28, 2012 05:39 PM (wR+pz)

They did eventully sign it. Once the Philly delegates went home and got permission. No, not much has changed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 28, 2012 05:45 PM (BAS5M)

240
The Muslims will either be at our throats or at our feet. I know which I prefer.

More American blood will be spilled. Much more.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, CEO - Jackboot Solutions, LLC at September 28, 2012 05:46 PM (6Hf3R)

241 >>> Remember Fabrizio Quattrocchi:

>>> “This is how an Italian dies!”

>>> Pardon, but no. I was hanging out with some Mohawk buds after the first beheading vids came out. They said, "Amateurs". I like that attitude better.

I certainly don't mean to take anything away from your Mohawk buds. But Fabrizio Quattrocchi was a noble hero, especially in this day and age.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:47 PM (u8eBQ)

242 Eventually. I say by all means fight, but I just
don't see how you defeat Islam within our cultural reality.Posted by: Random


Argument from ignorance.

Well, you have to go with what you got. And in your case, that's it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 28, 2012 05:48 PM (CdCPN)

243 His example was a great one. However - I prefer a different slogan. "This is how an American KILLS." Remember what Patton said. You don't win by dying for your country. You win by making the other bastard die for his.
Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:42 PM (jfeoD)


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When I tell people that I'd once again go into harm's way to defend the Consitution, I put in a caveat saying that I'll be making sure that I'll be sending more harm downrange than is coming in my direction.

Posted by: Soona at September 28, 2012 05:48 PM (E2I3C)

244 Eyes are up here, Ace!

Posted by: Atlas' Juggs at September 28, 2012 05:48 PM (XT2y5)

245 188 *Islam will win

Only if we let it.
Every weapon it relies on is borrowed from the west and used against us.

Posted by: USA at September 28, 2012 05:48 PM (RIg+t)

246 Fuck Islam.
(I hope I'm not too late in saying that.)

Posted by: garrett at September 28, 2012 05:48 PM (LHewR)

247 >>> "This is how an American KILLS." Remember what Patton said. You don't win by dying for your country. You win by making the other bastard die for his.
>>> Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:42 PM (jfeoD)

Yeah, well put. No military in history has pulled off combined arms offensive operations better than America.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:49 PM (u8eBQ)

248 241
Not saying he wasn't. But one is resignation, the other is contempt. Contempt for the contemptible is always appropriate.

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 05:49 PM (RLTt1)

249 Radical Chic for the 21st century. I wonder if these idiots are hoping they'll be allowed to live, or just hoping to be killed last.

Posted by: Secundus at September 28, 2012 05:49 PM (t2Zxt)

250 Random at September 28, 2012 05:45 PM (u8eBQ)
And they thought Bush was a tyrant. He was an amatuer punkcompared to these people.

Posted by: harleycowboy at September 28, 2012 05:50 PM (wSTfB)

251 ]Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:45 PM (u8eBQ)

You're a rather dreary little grease-spot, aren't you?

Come by my place and we can put that mopey head of yours to good use.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at September 28, 2012 05:50 PM (3SvjA)

252 I remember Schmucky from little green spitballs hated him some Pam Geller. Right before I was banned he was on some huge tirade about her...

Posted by: the pink not panicking, but I hate the MSM,about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 28, 2012 05:50 PM (9+ccr)

253 Would "I invite you to fight me you sub human moslem POS" be considered fighting words?

Posted by: Up with people! at September 28, 2012 05:50 PM (kzFo5)

254 >>>Contempt for the contemptible is always appropriate.

Which, btw, FUCK NYC

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 05:51 PM (RLTt1)

255 Even Christianity was effectively superceded by postmodernism and quasi-effective-atheism in practise if not in declaration. Islam is quite a dfferent animal, and has much deeper structures to self-police and replenish itself.
Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:37 PM (u8eBQ)

Er, nope. Christianity is doing fine, thanks, although its adherents aren't faring so well in certain parts of the world. In my view, belief in Christ has the natural advantage in the war of ideas by the simple virtue of being true. And as to 'Woe is me, all is lost, might as well give up,' etc. You can't say you're going to fight--as you do--while simultanously dispensing with the will to fight and enjoining others to do the same.

Posted by: troyriser at September 28, 2012 05:52 PM (vtiE6)

256 I remember Schmucky from little green spitballs hated him some Pam Geller.

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Not till he was spurned. Used to adore her.

Posted by: mama winger at September 28, 2012 05:52 PM (P6QsQ)

257 Yet Pizz Christ is there in all it's glory. Someone really needs to make a Pizz Moe just for comparison purposes.

Posted by: TJexcite at September 28, 2012 05:52 PM (PNDql)

258 Further, just like the surrounding Barbarians tactics improved as Romes' stagnated, so too will it be with our enemies.
Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:45 PM (u8eBQ)




I think this assumes too much. The muz are hardly above animals. They can barely make use of modern tech. They can't maintain it or develop it. They are far less capable human beings than the European "barbarians" around Rome. They are typical Easterners - nearly incapable of improvement or innovation. Their mindset is one of total, unthinkingfatalism.
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But I'll agree that if we continue to just lay around and take it, they'll be happy to take advantage and bring us down. The question is whether anything can be done to stiffen and alter our will. Cultural change is usually slow, but a crisis can bring revolutions in thought. Look what happened to German culture between WW1 and WW2. I like to think that one day the muz will push too far, and there will be a reaction. Alas - it will probably not happen until the breakdown of the Republican party opens the way for a true nationalist party.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:52 PM (jfeoD)

259 I wonder. Americansaren't really a hateful or bigoted people. But it seems like certain groups are trying their damnedest to make us both.

Posted by: Secundus at September 28, 2012 05:53 PM (t2Zxt)

260
If you haven't seen this, take a look.

http://tinyurl.com/cyogpnx

Highly, highly interesting. Comparing 2008 Absentee requests in Ohio to 2012. So far, Republicans are on pace to well outperform their 2008 numbers in absentee voting while Democrats are significantly underperforming from their 2008 numbers.

Posted by: Rich at September 28, 2012 05:54 PM (TOgQZ)

261 Islam has been defeated in the past.
The Reconquista happened.
The Gates of Vienna happened.

It's not true that Islam always wins.

It's rock-paper-scissors

Muscular Christianity beats Violent Islam
But Secularism beats Christianity
And Islam beats Secularism

Posted by: Blasphemy Jones at September 28, 2012 05:54 PM (ZPrif)

262 Somehow I don't think the fighting words loophole would hold up in court if I kicked a judges ass for fining me $100.

Posted by: Up with people! at September 28, 2012 05:54 PM (kzFo5)

263 Obama 2012....Now thems fightin' words.

Posted by: Firing the Dhimmi in the White House in November at September 28, 2012 05:54 PM (S1RjJ)

264 I haven't been in New York City for a couple years. I won't be coming back under this regime enfante terrible or its ideological successors.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 28, 2012 05:55 PM (H5R8H)

265 Banningthead -- for whatever reason -- isclearly anunconstitutional content based restriction of speech.The company running the adshould head down to the Federal Courthouse inLower Manhatten and ask for a TROagainst enforcement of the ban. There is asubstantial liklihood they will prevail on the merits.
This is not even remotely a close question.

Posted by: nc at September 28, 2012 05:55 PM (Cxl7g)

266 new one up

Posted by: Vic at September 28, 2012 05:55 PM (YdQQY)

267 Empire of Jeff

It is bourboncast time.

Posted by: dogfish at September 28, 2012 05:56 PM (N2yhW)

268 If I were an Evil Conservative, and I am, I would form a bogus Islamic Anti-Blasphemy League and file bogus complaints against New York subway ads until I wore them down. First, no ads that reference the Sep 11 attacks nor the World Trade Center Memorial because those falsely blame violence on the Religion of Peace.
Second, no pigs. Seriously. No pigs nor pig products nor footballs made of pigskin nor football games where pigskin balls are used.
Third, no dogs. Dogs are unclean and we fake Muslims hate them and may riot, just may riot, if we are provoked by their image.
Fourth, no Coca-Cola ads. When you turn the script upside down and look at it in a mirror it says "ALLAH IS DEAD" or something like that or so some mullah said a while back. Anyway, I'm offended and it can not be posted on the subway.
Fifth, no Burger King ads ever. They drew Allah's name on an ice cream sundae they sold a while back, a gross insult to Muslims everywhere, and must be banned from all domains under Muslim law.
Sixth, no Apple ads, not since they built the Apple Mecca on Fifth Avenue shaped like our Holy Ka'aba and installed bars in it where the infidel blasphemers swill liquor. In fact, I demand the Metro Transit Authority behead everyone carrying an Apple product on the subway.
Seventh, no ads from restaurants serving Spaghetti alla Bolognese. That "alla" part in there just pisses me off and can't be allowed. In fact, I want the city of New York to ban such references on all menus in all restaurants in New York. After all, subway ads are just the beginning. We have a city full of outrages to conquer.

Posted by: Evil Conservative at September 28, 2012 05:56 PM (659DL)

269 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 28, 2012 05:56 PM (Ts9tU)

270 "Rome knew how to deal withpeople who wouldn't lay down, and the way the
US was settled - by getting rid of the natives - is also a good examlpe
of what our kind can do."

Speak for yourself, Kemosabe. First of all, you're a fuckstick if you want to be anything like Rome. Dago mafiosi with very literate slaves.

And then, only natives who were unable to adapt to the closure of communal range were "got rid of." The vast majority became part of the new civilization, and had a big influence, too, on their way in. I know where you got that line, and I think those boots look silly on you.

"Your kind" wouldn't even recognize the life of the homelands you left, if you had to live in them today. In short, you could not be more wrong.

Posted by: comatus at September 28, 2012 05:56 PM (qaVK+)

271 >>> The question is whether anything can be done to stiffen and alter our will.

This is indeed the question.

I'll turn it around another though: I just don't see what will significantly unnerve and deter Islam; its very design is to prevent this, despite its many other shortcomings.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:56 PM (u8eBQ)

272 I am impatient for World Peace.....that is why we should reduce our nuclear arsenal....

...by using some of them.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 28, 2012 05:57 PM (ovpNn)

273 Yeah, well put. No military in history has pulled off combined arms offensive operations better than America.
Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:49 PM (u8eBQ)
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Happily we have 1 major, and historically unique, advantage. If we wanted to kill off the muz, we COULD. Those in the US could be eliminated within a couple years max. Easily. The key cities inmuz nations could be conventional nuked, neutron bombed, or nerve gassed within the space of a few days if we really chose to do it. Then the random survivors here and there would be so low innumber that they would be little threat.


As with so many things, it's just a matter of WILL.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:57 PM (jfeoD)

274
Well, "Islam" does mean "submission". And the gutless NY commissioners submitted.

Posted by: Brown Line at September 28, 2012 05:57 PM (VrNoa)

275 *another way

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:57 PM (u8eBQ)

276 The Prophet of Islam is an illiterate clusterf*ck of a syphilitic goat molester.

Posted by: Rule #2 at September 28, 2012 05:57 PM (doas6)

277 I'll turn it around another though: I just don't see what will significantly unnerve and deter Islam; its very design is to prevent this, despite its many other shortcomings.
Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 05:56 PM (u8eBQ)
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I agree. That's why Islam must be eliminated entirely, both as an ideology and as a collection of individuals.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 28, 2012 05:59 PM (jfeoD)

278 Just remember this. The Mexican President was allowed to stand in the well of the House and chastise us for our immigration policies. Mexico. The country that turns everyone away from it's southern border. Restricts land purchases and business ownership to citizens only.

Fuck I'm tired of being told I need to accept this crap to avoid offending "the enlightened ones."

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 28, 2012 05:59 PM (BAS5M)

279
I have a minor quibble with Ace's qualification of "strains" of Islam.

In 1979, the Shiites were the bad ones, taking our Embassy staff hostage and shouting "Death to America" in Tehran.

In 1991, it was the Sunni minority in Iraq who were oppressing the poor Shiites in Kuwait.

In 2001, it was the Wahabbi lunatics of the Afghan Taliban who were the violent ones spreading hatred of the West.

Now in 2012, it's the Salafists?

Fuck that. It's ISLAM that's the problem. Every time we attempt to stratify these fucking primates into their potential immediate danger to our security, we ignore the underlying problem:

Fucking ISLAM.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, CEO - Jackboot Solutions, LLC at September 28, 2012 05:59 PM (ll6WS)

280 Taking down islam can only be done once we have destroyed liberalism and its media arm, the philosophy that says "Anything anti-American is good, anything pro-American is bad."

Before that, any action taken against the barbarians will be portrayed, well, the way it is now by Hollywood, the Left, etc, as Evil Republican Christians demonizing and attacking Poor Helpless Brown People because They're Not Christians.

Media, Liberalism, etc must die first.

Oddly, I was watching "Patton" last night. It amazes me that a great military commander like him was nearly derailed by one little slap to the face. (Yes, I confess my ignorance of his story.) The Media have long been the enemies of civilization.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 28, 2012 06:00 PM (DuH+r)

281 I am going to start studying sculpture

I have this idea for a performing art piece called Poop Turban Muhammad that I think would go great next to Piss Christ.

And it will be extra amazing cause i wont use my hands.


Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 28, 2012 06:00 PM (ovpNn)

282 The presence of that Jew temple offends me and I might do violence.

Posted by: N. Y. Muzzie at September 28, 2012 06:00 PM (xfxCl)

283 "As with so many things, it's just a matter of WILL."

And that summarizes my point well: we have the technology; they have the will. Also, we are in an age of huge spread of technology and information. And one doesn't need to invent or even understand technology to use it.

Barack Hussein Obama is President. I mean, how much more can I say?

He's a protected of a domestic terrorist who bombed the Pentagon. He was partly raised in Indonesia. He's a radical leftist.

And he is the duly and constitutionally elected sitting President of the United States.

Regardless of what happens in this forthcoming election, this does not bode well for America's long-term will.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 06:01 PM (u8eBQ)

284 You mean "savage" like the people that killed my friends and neighbors at the WTC and those who continue to support them?

Or "savage" like the people who murdered Ambassador Stevens?

When anyone tries to find a reason to limit free-speech, beware. Because only tyranny lurks behind such action.

Posted by: exile at September 28, 2012 06:02 PM (GGCsk)

285 *protege

Gee. Not "protected". Sigh@typos.

Posted by: Random at September 28, 2012 06:03 PM (u8eBQ)

286 >>I would form a bogus Islamic Anti-Blasphemy League

Could do a People's Cube style website. Islam even has a Cube...

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 28, 2012 06:04 PM (RLTt1)

287 I guess when someone murders over 3,000 Americans, cuts peoples heads off and starts a Jihad due to the "Piss Christ", the NYC Council will vote to give Christians special free-speech rights also.

Posted by: exile at September 28, 2012 06:06 PM (GGCsk)

288 The left worried that free speech/dissent /invasion of privacy/browshirts at you door all this would be a threat with a republicn President

i guess because they Knew They would do so if they could.
I am certain this will all work out well for America.
this use of power will only work to 'Their' advantage. They won't end up being repressed as everyone's opinions they dislike.

Posted by: willow at September 28, 2012 06:08 PM (TomZ9)

289 It does seem when given the' Choice', Mulims choose Islamic Fundamentalists as their Leaders.
have any countries in the ME chosen a secular or moderate govt after the Arab Spring?

Posted by: willow at September 28, 2012 06:13 PM (TomZ9)

290 Quebec Act.

Not something I would have cared about...but these thing *do* matter.

Posted by: A. at September 28, 2012 06:30 PM (EiODI)

291
150>>> Did the Mongols have an ideology?

....yeah, What's in your wallet.

Posted by: Some Prick at September 28, 2012 06:33 PM (D9ELu)

292 This idea that you can ban speech because people react violently to it is at odds with Supreme Court rulings and basic First Amendment axioms. The Supreme Court has rejected this so-called “heckler’s veto” in cases like Terminiello v. Chicago (1949). In that decision, the Supreme Curt ruled that the First Amendment protected unsavory, anti-semitic speech that enraged an “angry and turbulent” crowd. The Supreme Court rejected the idea that speech can be banned to prevent unrest, declaring that “a function of free speech under our system of government is to invite dispute. -- Scapegoating Free Speech

Posted by: DANEgerus at September 28, 2012 06:34 PM (e3/KR)

293 So our Constitution is really only secondary to some fugly Egyptian slag?

Posted by: Mr Wonderful at September 28, 2012 07:41 PM (lD8ju)

294 Start a Jihad if you're all that upset about it.

Posted by: youdidnotjustsaythat at September 28, 2012 07:45 PM (uNwBa)

295 Has anyone check his pulse lately? I think the propeht of islam is dead. How can you insult a dead prophet?

Posted by: not really here at September 28, 2012 08:04 PM (mh6j2)

296 Well I guess that means that all Korans in the world must be destroyed because they are nothing but fighting words.

Posted by: Mekan at September 28, 2012 08:22 PM (T/L2Z)

297 Ace it is Geller not Gellar.

Posted by: Travis at September 28, 2012 09:27 PM (ychgM)

298
Hey NYC,
Is a 32 oz cup filled with 16oz still a 32 oz cup?

Posted by: Ringo at September 28, 2012 10:16 PM (dQ/Oc)

299 How come I cant find a Prophet Muhhamed Halloween costume?

Posted by: Ringo at September 28, 2012 10:21 PM (dQ/Oc)

300 Waco rules baby!
This is Waco rules writ large without the APC's and fire.

Posted by: Mt Top Patriot at September 29, 2012 12:03 AM (NGuNB)

301 violence get rewarded!
Bring back the Crusades

Posted by: sdsd at September 29, 2012 12:18 AM (g6lWQ)

302 Does anyone have a contact number for these smucks?

Posted by: gonzotx at September 29, 2012 06:53 AM (dBjpV)

303 Without WILL, civilizations fall. We are heading toward the Grand Caliphate.

Posted by: GrandCaliphate at September 29, 2012 07:22 AM (N9O8x)






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