Howard Fineman: Gee, It Sure Seems Like The Press Should Question and Criticize Obama Like a Regular Candidate At Some Point In His Career

!!!

I should put on Hardball. This should be awk-ward!, as the homosexuals say.


If American democracy is to work -- if we are to prevent the blood from clotting in the body politic -- presidential elections must be real contests over real ideas and real records, informed by real facts.

This campaign hasn't really been any of those things.

Presidents do not deserve to be reelected by default. If they did, why would anyone expect that a second term to be any better or wiser?

And elected leaders need to be held to account -- pinned up against the wall, so to speak -- if citizens aren't to become utterly disillusioned with the idea that we live in a system of democratic self-government.

...

Unless I missed it, the president has yet to give a detailed answer to why he has failed to meet or even come close to his promises about reducing the unemployment rate. Saying that the task was harder than he initially thought isn't (or shouldn't be) a convincing explanation.

He hasn't given a detailed answer as to why he and his top advisers, led by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, failed to focus sufficiently on reviving the housing market, rather than just bailing out banks.

He hasn't explained why his own administration is now saying that at least 6 million Americans, most of them in the middle class, will indeed face a tax increase (penalty) in 2014 if they do not buy health insurance -- a new estimate substantially higher than earlier ones.

He hasn't explained whether he shares any blame for the failure of budget talks on a grand compromise. And if the art of presidential leadership is to cajole your foes into doing deals they don't want to do, what are we to make of his famous charming effectiveness?

...

He hasn't said how, even with a Simpson-Bowles-style budget deal, the country is going to seriously grapple with long-term unfunded liabilities in the tens of trillions.

I could go on.

He did go on. I had to cut some of the left-wingy stuff.

Fineman spins through a plethora of possible explanations for this until, in his last attempt to explain it, he dares to mention...

MEDIA. Obama was such a cool and uplifting story to so many in the media in 2008 that they essentially ceded ground to him that they have yet to reclaim.

Yeah, maybe. Perhaps we should look into this one. In a column all about "Why the Media Never Calls Obama to Account," perhaps it is worth scrutinizing the media whose failures these are.

Instead of suggesting, in the the first three guesses, that it's Romney's fault to one degree or another.

Romney wasn't the candidate in 2008, and yet the media did the same thing -- per Fineman's own confession of failure.

Posted by: Ace at 05:05 PM



Comments

1
Obama hasn't even said what he'd do in his second term.

More of the same, people are to assume, I suppose.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2012 05:07 PM (jUytm)

2 Fuckin' Media Bias. Could it really exist?

Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2012 05:07 PM (wiBIY)

3 Third!

Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 05:08 PM (bJm7W)

4 There is nothing bad that can happen to the media that isn't good for America.

MSM delenda est.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 26, 2012 05:08 PM (T0NGe)

5 It would be racist to ask questions like that of a half-black president.

Posted by: Cicero at September 26, 2012 05:08 PM (QKKT0)

6 Hey!!! OVER HERE!!! Look at MEEEEE!!

Posted by: Suirrel at September 26, 2012 05:08 PM (84pE9)

7 I will answer all of your questions... in 2016.

Posted by: Captain Training Pants at September 26, 2012 05:09 PM (FcR7P)

8 Squirrel sock fail.

<embarrassed>

Posted by: CUS at September 26, 2012 05:09 PM (84pE9)

9 Yeah good luck with that!

Posted by: General Woundwort at September 26, 2012 05:09 PM (06lNq)

10 Howard Fineman said this? Did he finally start taking his fucking medication or something?

Posted by: Adam at September 26, 2012 05:09 PM (/YJYi)

11 He is going to be Obama in his second term. What more could you want?

Posted by: Golan Globus at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (/1U3u)

12 I should put on Hardball.

_________________

What...?

Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (r2PLg)

13 and the media is finally starting to wake up a bit... which is why Obama is avoiding them like the plaugue... or Netenyahu...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (lZBBB)

14 I should put on Hardball. This should be awk-ward!, as the homosexuals say.

The crazy homosexuals are always saying funny shit like that.

Posted by: Cicero at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (QKKT0)

15 1
Obama hasn't even said what he'd do in his second term.

More of the same, people are to assume, I suppose.

---

I'm guessing "A lot of coke, followed by smoking a doobie made from the Constitution."

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (e0xKF)

16 Fuck the fucking media and every fucker even tangentially associated with the fuckers. Even their fucking neighbors and everyone living in their fucking zip codes.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (BJVEF)

17 Howard Fineman said this? Did he finally start taking his fucking medication or something?

I think he cares about his reputation somewhat. Too late.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (T0NGe)

18 it took the Catholic Church about 1000 years to admit that St Ursula might not have really existed.
Do you expect any criticism from the faithful of a REAL saint and miracle worker until at least 1000 years after he's been promoted to God?

Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (bJm7W)

19 Do you hear anyone in the lamestream media criticizing FDR? It will not be acceptable to criticize Saint Ogabe in polite (liberal) company for at least half a century after his death.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (SDkq3)

20 I'd like to ask the media a question. Do they think if/when the economy crashes and we become Greece or Spain(only with way more people and way way way more guns), they'll be immune from the civil unrest that ensues?

Posted by: Adam_ME at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (YPvYZ)

21 Posted by: Golan Globus at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (/1U3u)

Well.... my minion said he would be more flexible in his second term...

Maybe... play a little Limbo?

Posted by: Vlad Putin at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (lZBBB)

22 The crazy homosexuals are always saying funny shit like that.

Posted by: Cicero at September 26, 2012 05:10 PM (QKKT0)


Shut. Up.

Posted by: It's funny in a mincing voice at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (/1U3u)

23 I think the JEF is going down, I'm just terrified of what he and his administration will do in the interim.

*shudder*

Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (O/fK8)

24 We would scrutinize Obama, but Mitt Romney the Gaffe Machine keeps getting in our way.

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (60GaT)

25 25th!!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at September 26, 2012 05:12 PM (UK9cE)

26 Thanks Howard. You're like fucking 3 and a half years too late. You fucker.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 05:12 PM (BJVEF)

27 19
Do you hear anyone in the lamestream media criticizing FDR? It will not
be acceptable to criticize Saint Ogabe in polite (liberal) company for
at least half a century after his death.

nuh-uh, FDR has been roundly criticizes for smoking. I vaguely recall that he might have cheated on his wife, but given what she looked like he might be pardoned for that.

Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 05:13 PM (bJm7W)

28 MEDIA. Obama was such a cool and uplifting story to so many in the media in 2008 that they essentially ceded ground to him that they have yet to reclaim.

That's so crazy, it might just be true.

Posted by: toby928© at September 26, 2012 05:15 PM (QupBk)

29 Fineman is a pud, just like Juan Williams, Jake Tapper and any other member of the media that people imagine have integrity or fair mindedness. Conservatives saved Juan Williams' career on principle and he is proving to be a scumbag. Fineman used to be a "fair minded liberal", kind of like Clarence Page, until the rubber hit the road and he had to make a choice: scumbag or fair minded. He chose the former, of course.

Posted by: ejo at September 26, 2012 05:15 PM (LV3jS)

30 What's the phrase I'm looking for........., oh yeah,

WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL!!!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2012 05:15 PM (TOk1P)

31 Pardon me while I go find my fainting couch.

Posted by: I lurk, therefore I am at September 26, 2012 05:15 PM (IBP0E)

32 It turns out, the media isn't very good at this criticizing presidentin' stuff.

As long as they are a Dem.

If Romney wins, I'm adding Pissy Matthews to my dead pool, cuz he's bound to blow a major blood vessel somewhere.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 26, 2012 05:15 PM (ccXZP)

33 If Romney wins, I'm adding Pissy Matthews to my dead pool, cuz he's bound to blow a major blood vessel somewhere.

---

What's the over/under on whether we're more likely to see Matthews have a stroke or Olbermann drown in his bathtub first?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 26, 2012 05:16 PM (e0xKF)

34 They'll get around to it in the next century or two

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2012 05:17 PM (1Jaio)

35 Not first, but somewhere in the first half!

Posted by: Boomer Redneque at September 26, 2012 05:17 PM (pLmrQ)

36 The media in general will try to save their collective asses, after Romney is elected...

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 26, 2012 05:17 PM (UZQM8)

37 Time for some more snark about Mitt Romney

Posted by: wooga, finger banging Peggy Noonan at September 26, 2012 05:17 PM (vjyZP)

38 0bama is a pouting, bitter vagine

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 26, 2012 05:18 PM (h332v)

39 So why does this Fineman guy hate black people?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 26, 2012 05:18 PM (/kI1Q)

40 All these critiques of Obama's economic record are bogus given what he was handed by the Christofascist Bush regime. Obama's stimulus was a joyous success -- he told me so in my dreams.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at September 26, 2012 05:18 PM (60GaT)

41 36 The media in general will try to save their collective asses, after Romney is elected...

---

They may start trying a little earlier if it becomes clear that even D+20 samples can't make this one look close.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at September 26, 2012 05:19 PM (e0xKF)

42 This should be awk-ward!, as the homosexuals say.

Who you calling homosexual?

Posted by: German Comedy Robot at September 26, 2012 05:19 PM (V/U0X)

43 Why has the media suddenly become butthurt and snarky?

So how many of these journalists have been jilted out of an interview because President I. Candy is too busy?

Posted by: Fritz at September 26, 2012 05:19 PM (vm7ot)

44 This is the same Howard Fineman who took to Twitter after Ryan's convention speech and stated that the Ds needed to destroy Ryan by branding him a liar.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 26, 2012 05:19 PM (YjDyJ)

45 Hey baby, I'd like to see your thousand points of light.

Posted by: Peggy Noonan pickup lines in Roger Simon's latest satire at September 26, 2012 05:20 PM (60GaT)

46 Some of the tard comments on the Huff Po site makes my think that's where our trolls spawn from

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2012 05:20 PM (1Jaio)

47 36
The media in general will try to save their collective asses, after Romney is elected...

They better statr repenting now and turning on Obama. Have you read any of the headlines today? All filled with why Romney is losing and how fantastic Obama's ground game in Ohio is and how much in disarray Mitts campaign is. Oh and lets not forget today's polls...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:20 PM (9+ccr)

48 The press:

http://www.amazon.com/Slobbering-Love-Affair-Pathetic-Mainstream/dp/1400162041

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2012 05:21 PM (YdQQY)

49 Posted by: German Comedy Robot at September 26, 2012 05:19 PM (V/U0X)

I'd like to give you th-th-this c-c-c-comedy award.

Posted by: Jimmy at September 26, 2012 05:21 PM (GULKT)

50 37 -

Peggy Noonan, perhaps the single most unexpected sex symbol in the history of symbols.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2012 05:22 PM (TOk1P)

51
Thank god I live in the middle of flyover country, because I would probably slap some of these biased, low-life, in-the-tank scrunts if I ever met them.

The last thing I would need is to be arrested, and none of these scum are worth going tojail over.

Posted by: sick of MFM hacks at September 26, 2012 05:22 PM (9sUlj)

52 This should be awk-ward!, as the homosexuals say.


-------------------------------------------------


You seem to know a lot about things like this, Ace.

Posted by: Soona is, like, totally humorless at September 26, 2012 05:22 PM (57jOZ)

53 The media in general will try to save their collective asses, after Romney is elected...

They better statr repenting now and turning on Obama. Have you read any of the headlines today? All filled with why Romney is losing and how fantastic Obama's ground game in Ohio is and how much in disarray Mitts campaign is. Oh and lets not forget today's polls...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:20 PM (9+ccr)

--Sultan Knish's recent Media Noise Machine column was spot on. He basically stated that the MBM are like trolls and Romney should therefore ignore them.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:23 PM (V/U0X)

54
--Sultan Knish's recent Media Noise Machine column was spot on. He
basically stated that the MBM are like trolls and Romney should
therefore ignore them.

Agreed...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:23 PM (9+ccr)

55 Just like the best thing that could have happened to the South Koreans, given the circumstances, was separation from North Korea, the best thing that could happen to those of us who aren't on the Left would be separation from these people.

Nation-states should reflect at least some basic agreement on what the parameters of political life will be. "Treating Obama as if he were some kind of demi-god" isn't a parameter of political life I concur with. The fact that energy must be spent reminding these people of that fact is such a waste of life. In a sane world, this would go without saying.

Posted by: BS Inc. at September 26, 2012 05:23 PM (P2Ufm)

56 Fucking Romney.

Posted by: Howard Fineman at September 26, 2012 05:24 PM (QupBk)

57 Why does it take Fineman so many words to say "Maybe we should stop washing Obama's balls and hold him to the same standard we do Republicans".

It's not that deep a question and doesn't require a dissertation. Do your fucking jobs.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2012 05:24 PM (TMB3S)

58 Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:20 PM (9+ccr)


Nah, I gave up on that shit 5 years ago. I've gotten more work done.

Fortunately I'm in the O&G sector, with international clients. Our hit wasn't near as bad as most of America. I have had to start wearing multiple hats though, I'm not complaining, just pointing out I've had to adapt as well. The multiple jobs do make the days go by faster.

My fortunate circumstances still don't excuse the fact that TFG is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 26, 2012 05:25 PM (UZQM8)

59 WOOOOHOOOO!

Here's more good news for the Eeyores still crying:

The New Christian Voter Guide is now out and will be sent to 17 million voters.

From The Brody File :
>

http://tinyurl.com/9yw9bv8

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at September 26, 2012 05:25 PM (53riN)

60 I could go on.


It's been four years. He's bringing this up a month before the election. It's a little late to assuage your ethical conscience.

Sure, he could go on, but hasn't and we all know what he'll do.

Posted by: AD at September 26, 2012 05:25 PM (8+Oy4)

61 may I say that Romney should be like a gentleman boxer: you knock the snot out of your opponent but don't gloat while you do it.

At least hes not keeping Ryan under wraps, like the McCain campaign seemed to sometimes do with Palin

Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 05:25 PM (bJm7W)

62 Yes, the media is biased in Obama's favor. But it's com-pli-cated....

Posted by: Howard Nuanceman at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (60GaT)

63 Is he looking for a Fox gig?

Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (UIE9v)

64 "Treating Obama as if he were some kind of demi-god" isn't a parameter of political life I concur with.

Where do you get this "demi" shit?

Posted by: The Lightworker, Secular Deity at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (QKKT0)

65 But Romney doesn't know how airplane windows work!!!

Posted by: Lefty Hussein McMoonbat at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (2jQGY)

66 Sorta O/T, but today I realized that I have not seen a single Obama '12 yard sign anywhere. Oh, there is one sad little house that has a tattered Obama '08 sign behind a chain-link fence, but that's about it. There are plenty of Romney signs around, though!

My county went blue in '08. Just sayin.

Posted by: weew at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (ElfHn)

67 The aforementioned Knish column "The Media Noise Machine":

http://sultanknish.blogspot.ca/2012/09/the-great-media-noise-machine.html

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (V/U0X)

68 Heretic!

He weighs as much as a duck!!1!

Posted by: The MSM‎ at September 26, 2012 05:26 PM (XvHmy)

69 Blind Squirrel finds acorn .. News & Film @ 11

Posted by: Evilpens at September 26, 2012 05:27 PM (ck76k)

70 I wonder what butt buddy Chris Matthews will say!? I hope he doesn't get mad at me and call me a racist!

Posted by: Howard Fineman at September 26, 2012 05:27 PM (/YJYi)

71 61 may I say that Romney should be like a gentleman boxer: you knock the snot out of your opponent but don't gloat while you do it.

Is it okay to bite his ear off? Cuz that would be a mouthful. Cuz of the ears, and their size

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 26, 2012 05:27 PM (h332v)

72 Still, Mitt Romney is tearing this country apart.

Posted by: Howard Fineman at September 26, 2012 05:27 PM (QKKT0)

73 Squirrel sock fail.<embarrassed>
omg! too funny!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2012 05:28 PM (y2Ojs)

74 59 WOOOOHOOOO!

Here's more good news for the Eeyores still crying:

The New Christian Voter Guide is now out and will be sent to 17 million voters.

From The Brody File :
>

http://tinyurl.com/9yw9bv8

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at September 26, 2012 05:25 PM (53riN)

But, but . . . school lunches are equally important to abortion so I'm gonna vote Democrat.

Posted by: Concerned Catholic Social Justice Voter at September 26, 2012 05:28 PM (V/U0X)

75 You won't be able to see Chrissy Matthews have his stroke in early 2013, because he will be taken off the air this November after calling the American public 'Stupid M____ F____' on live television when Romney is declared the next president.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 26, 2012 05:28 PM (3zV6k)

76 Come on. He's already told us that he'll be more flexxxxxibllle.


Isn't Fineman listening?

Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2012 05:29 PM (wAhNv)

77 Can I weigh in here? I don't seem to get much attention compared to other allegedly conservative concern trolls like the brave David Frum.

anyway, blahblahblahRush Limbaughblah.

Posted by: Conor Friedersdorf at September 26, 2012 05:29 PM (60GaT)

78
Was thinking about this, but I keep hearing that the pollsters wouldn't intentionally lie, because they have reputations to worry about.

This makes sense...but then again do we not see the media do exactly that? Do they also not have reputations to worry about? So why would pollsters be any different? If they are both partisan, is it not enough to say that their partisan leanings are enough to get them to "skew" the polls sort of like the media "skews" the news?

Posted by: Rich at September 26, 2012 05:29 PM (TOgQZ)

79 The MFM thinks they've got first dibs on the lifeboats when the Titanic sinks. What they don't realize is that there aren't any lifeboats.

Posted by: Soona is, like, totally humorless at September 26, 2012 05:29 PM (57jOZ)

80 Q: Why does it take more than one squirrel to screw in a lightbulb?

A: Because they're stupid.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 26, 2012 05:29 PM (h332v)

81 MFM dishonest? Never!



In an election season that has produced reels of negative ads and dizzying spin, more Americans find that President Barack Obama's ads remain honest, giving his campaign a 12-point lead over that of his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, according to the Yahoo!/Esquire poll.




Two sources of journalist integrity.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2012 05:30 PM (1Jaio)

82 60 I could go on.


It's been four years. He's bringing this up a month before the election. It's a little late to assuage your ethical conscience.

Sure, he could go on, but hasn't and we all know what he'll do.

Posted by: AD at September 26, 2012 05:25 PM (8+Oy4)

--I've said this before, but the perfect metaphor for this guilty hand-wringing by (some of) the MBM is like when my friends two year old boy threw something down the stairs, then said "Oops."

His mom: "You don't say 'Oops' when it's on purpose!"

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:30 PM (V/U0X)

83 75 You won't be able to see Chrissy Matthews have his stroke in early 2013, because he will be taken off the air this November after calling the American public 'Stupid M____ F____' on live television when Romney is declared the next president.

TURN THOSE VOTING MACHINES BACK ON! TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at September 26, 2012 05:30 PM (e0xKF)

84 We can't criticize Obama because it's wrong to blaspheme religious figures.

Posted by: mama winger at September 26, 2012 05:30 PM (P6QsQ)

85 After further review, Obama did not spike the football, but fumbled in the end-zone. The on-the-field ruling has been overturned.

Posted by: Replacement Ref at September 26, 2012 05:30 PM (vm7ot)

86
I love it. I bet Fineman feels like Marie Curie, discovering what's been obvious to us for years.

Of course, Curie's discovery killed her. Watch out for yer cornhole, bud.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 26, 2012 05:31 PM (vaKm1)

87 Some of them are going to turn on TFG. The career/notoriety benefits are simply to great.

Posted by: runninrebel at September 26, 2012 05:31 PM (svdpV)

88 If Fineman had left off the Mitt stuff it would have made the article more credible.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2012 05:31 PM (y2Ojs)

89 Aw hell, as we all know they won't learn. When Obama loses, they will finally wake up, but then decide they are 'Fair' for going after everything Romney does.

It's so clear as to what will happen that it's not even funny.

Posted by: HH at September 26, 2012 05:32 PM (v+ExF)

90 16
Fuck the fucking media and every fucker even tangentially associated
with the fuckers. Even their fucking neighbors and everyone living in
their fucking zip codes.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (BJVEF)

I second this.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at September 26, 2012 05:33 PM (GrtrJ)

91 Lunchtime musings:

Could it be that Obama has been lying about Libya to protect Hillary, because if he doesn't, Billy Jeff will turn on him and that's pretty much all he's go going?

Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2012 05:33 PM (wAhNv)

92 So this Howard Fineman is apparently a big fucking deal.

I'm going to go Google him right now.

Posted by: Dang© at September 26, 2012 05:33 PM (R18D0)

93 87 Some of them are going to turn on TFG. The career/notoriety benefits are simply to great.

Posted by: runninrebel at September 26, 2012 05:31 PM (svdpV)

--It's kind of like a variant of the Prisoner's Dilemma: The first to "defect" at the right time gets a big payoff, but those who follow get nothin'. Also, no payoff for "defecting" after the election if --when-- Earflaps loses.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (V/U0X)

94 Big Media is owned by the largest corporations and conglomerates in our country. They are all quite pleased that the Dow has doubled under Obama. Jobs ???? Labor has been crushed and the corporations are happy to keep the number of jobs as low as possible. The most important thing fopr corporations is increasing shareholder value.

Posted by: occam at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (fbUla)

95 Fuck the fucking media and every fucker even tangentially associated

with the fuckers. Even their fucking neighbors and everyone living in

their fucking zip codes.



Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (BJVEF)
I second this.


Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen)
Third.

Posted by: Dang© at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (R18D0)

96 Fuck the fucking media and every fucker even tangentially associated
with the fuckers. Even their fucking neighbors and everyone living in
their fucking zip codes.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 05:11 PM (BJVEF)


Please, tell me how you feel...

Posted by: cajun carrot, Psychologist w/ honorary Obama PHD at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (UZQM8)

97 The Media are pretty much Union Democrats from New York and Los Angeles. Why anyone would think they would be fair, or do anything to hurt their guy is beyond me.

They are enemy soldiers, and until we wrest control of the airwaves away from them, they are going to keep strafing us, and helping their side.

Breitbart was right. We need conservatives to produce Entertainment to compete with their movies and TV shows, and we need conservatives to compete with their News networks.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (kUU+T)

98 Fourth.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 26, 2012 05:35 PM (h332v)

99 Breitbart was right. We need conservatives to produce Entertainment to
compete with their movies and TV shows, and we need conservatives to
compete with their News networks.

Exactly...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:35 PM (9+ccr)

100 It's so clear as to what will happen that it's not even funny.
Posted by: HH at September 26, 2012 05:32 PM (v+ExF)


This, and it's not going to be funny because this is what happens every, fucking, time.

Carter: gawd
Reagan: Bastard

Clinton: gawd
Bush: NEO-CON DEVIL!!1!

Obama: gawd
Romney: EEEEEVIL Capitalist 1%er! ELEBENTY!!!!

Posted by: cajun carrot, Psychologist w/ honorary Obama PHD at September 26, 2012 05:36 PM (UZQM8)

101 Once a lying sack of shit, always a lying sack of shit.

Fuck Howard Fineman. If he had cared about this four years ago, maybe we wouldn't be so screwed up today. At a minimum, we wouldn't have a Muzzie-loving, America-hating traitor in the White House.

But it doesn't matter. Even if Pissy Chrissy, Brian Williams and the rest of the worshiping cult took Choom Boy out of their mouths for even a second, the friggin' eunuchs in Congress would still be too bust sitting on their worthless asses playing circle-jerk games. SCoaMF would be home free, just as he is today.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 26, 2012 05:36 PM (ZgX/g)

102 The media lefties are personifying their own rejection of capitalism in supporting Obama, by denying their personal greed. They will benefit in ratings, cash, book deals, eyeballs, etc. as the whining opposition. Nobody wants to pay to see Matt Lauer wash Obamas balls, they know this, their agents know this, their network and paper management know this - so why continue other then to pursue their personal Marxist windmills?

Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2012 05:37 PM (UIE9v)

103 LOL, Paul Ryan is a child molester. LOL.

Posted by: Roger Simon at September 26, 2012 05:37 PM (V/U0X)

104 waiting for the day (soon!) when the rest of the MFM starts abandoning Ogabe in light of his impending electoral implosion so they can jump on the "I knew it!!!" bandwagon......

Posted by: the Butcher at September 26, 2012 05:38 PM (8g9qq)

105 97 The Media are pretty much Union Democrats from New York and Los Angeles. Why anyone would think they would be fair, or do anything to hurt their guy is beyond me.
Posted by: DiogenesLamp at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (kUU+T)


Because they get our money to fucking do it, cut off their subsidies, You know they are getting a cut from that sweet stash.

If they were completely independent from Fed/State funds I wouldn't give a shit what they do, but they'd also be out of business.

Posted by: cajun carrot, Psychologist w/ honorary Obama PHD at September 26, 2012 05:38 PM (UZQM8)

106 Paul Ryan responded to a female heckler by saying "Bitch please, I'm the macaroni and the cheese," confirming the GOP's war on women.

Posted by: Next in Politico at September 26, 2012 05:39 PM (60GaT)

107 Well here's an explanation for Obama's failure to live up to his 2008 campaing promises:

He's a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure! That's why...

Posted by: MoeRon at September 26, 2012 05:40 PM (yWDpP)

108
Breitbart was right. We need conservatives to produce Entertainment to
compete with their movies and TV shows, and we need conservatives to
compete with their News networks.


--------

I'm waiting for one of the wealthy conservatives to buy one of the major networks. Or even Rupert Murdoch putting some of the Fox News people on Fox network to compete with NBC/CBS/ABC Nightly News.

Posted by: Rich at September 26, 2012 05:40 PM (TOgQZ)

109 106
Paul Ryan responded to a female heckler by saying "Bitch please, I'm the
macaroni and the cheese,"

Ummm ,is he ever...!

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:40 PM (9+ccr)

110 I wish a conservative consortium like Rush Limbaugh, the Koch bros, or any other conservative rich guys would buy the alphabet channels.

Perhaps Beck has the best idea. Open up a whole new market on the internet.

Posted by: Soona is, like, totally humorless at September 26, 2012 05:40 PM (57jOZ)

111 Until Paul Ryan is in the centerfold of my Playgirl Magazine,I refuse to believe that they are using him effectively. Googled Howard Fineman. He is not Playgirl material.

Posted by: Tamara Holder, Eric's sister at September 26, 2012 05:41 PM (QDliN)

112 Real ideas? Real records? Accountability???
Who knew Howard Fineman was such a racist!!

Posted by: Vegan in a Prius at September 26, 2012 05:41 PM (ldwRd)

113 Horse's head in this dude's bed tonight.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 26, 2012 05:43 PM (GRvW4)

114
If Mitt was smart, he would be making a list of these MFM hacks and freeze them out on any stories. During the press conferences, call on EVERYBODY BUT the NYT, MS/NBC, etc. Call on the Picayune Times, etc., instead.

Ignore them, shuffle their seats to the back of the room, freeze them out. Do you think they can be any more anti-Romney than they are?

Posted by: sick of MFM hacks at September 26, 2012 05:43 PM (9sUlj)

115 "The last thing Mitt wants to do is start a debate on immigration, given how obnoxious his stance is to most Latinos."

Howie, there's this thingy you're supposed to have when making an argument. Hocus, or pocus, or.... oh I know: FOCUS!

Posted by: sherlock at September 26, 2012 05:45 PM (s0hlt)

116 Horse's head in this dude's bed tonight.
Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 26, 2012 05:43 PM (GRvW4)

----------------------------------------


There will be some 3am phone calls tonight.

Posted by: Soona is, like, totally humorless at September 26, 2012 05:45 PM (57jOZ)

117
If Mitt was smart, he would be making a list of these MFM hacks and freeze them out on any stories. During the press conferences, call on EVERYBODY BUT the NYT, MS/NBC, etc. Call on the Picayune Times, etc., instead.


Ignore them, shuffle their seats to the back of the room, freeze them out. Do you think they can be any more anti-Romney than they are?



I've thought the same thing. Undercut their sense of importance, and kick 'em in the balls economically.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 26, 2012 05:45 PM (U+DUu)

118 Ignore them, shuffle their seats to the back of the room, freeze them
out. Do you think they can be any more anti-Romney than they are?

I thought after they ganged up on him in that news conference he should have said at the next one"I guess it doesn't matter who I call on you're all gonna ask the same question, right?"Then call on every podunk news outlet there..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:45 PM (9+ccr)

119 Gee, It Sure Seems Like The Press Should Question and Criticize Obama Like a Regular Candidate At Some Point In His Career

NAaaaaaaa

Posted by: Theodoric of York at September 26, 2012 05:46 PM (e8kgV)

120 Pure CYA from one jawhorenalist who still remembers reality?

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone spatchcocker at September 26, 2012 05:46 PM (NwhfM)

121 Posted by: sick of MFM hacks at September 26, 2012 05:43 PM (9sUlj)

Oh man, I like that!

Make the bastards pay. Hell, they are going to go after you anyway, so make them sit in the back of the bus.

Hell, it's not like the WH press corp. is doing it's job anyway...

Posted by: HH at September 26, 2012 05:46 PM (v+ExF)

122 Ignore them, shuffle their seats to the back of the room, freeze them out. Do you think they can be any more anti-Romney than they are?

Posted by: sick of MFM hacks at September 26, 2012 05:43 PM (9sUlj)

--See linky at #67. Treat the MBM like trolls.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:47 PM (V/U0X)

123 No doubt Fineman is setting us up for his next pronouncement - that after weighing Braaack's record in a completely objective and non-biased manner, he will conclude that he deserves a second term.

Posted by: Vegan in a Prius at September 26, 2012 05:48 PM (ldwRd)

124 Fuckin facist right-wing MSM at it again! When are we going to get some balanced coverage from the press?

Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 26, 2012 05:48 PM (9ScGj)

125
When's the last time President I Can't held a press conference?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2012 05:48 PM (jUytm)

126 Peggy Noonan, perhaps the single most unexpected sex symbol in the history of symbols.


If Roger Simon has taught us anything, it's to expect the unexpected.

Posted by: wooga, finger banging Peggy Noonan at September 26, 2012 05:48 PM (vjyZP)

127 Sounds like Fineman wants to save what's left of his career. To have any shred of credibility at all with the sane half of the population these talking head types are going to have to start walking back some of the JEF worship shit. The smart ones will do it. Most won't and will be flushed with JEF.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 26, 2012 05:48 PM (jucos)

128 presidential elections must be real contests over real ideas and real records, informed by real facts

Hey! Fineman stole that from Russell Hammond's freakout monologue Almost Famous.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 05:49 PM (X3lox)

129 If only this Fineman fellow had some contacts in the media or influence within it to force some of this apparently important and essential skeptical questioning, to hold an elected politician ACCOUNTABLE.

Too bad.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at September 26, 2012 05:49 PM (WCzJ6)

130 When's the last time President I Can't held a press conference?

Well he sort of did when he spoke about the attacks on our embassies... Of course he didn't take any questions and hoped on his plane to Vegas baby!

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:50 PM (9+ccr)

131 The media are trolls. Hacks like Fineman, even when pretending contrition, are not interested in fair debate or honest engagement of differing ideas, nor the dissemination thereof. They just want to drop turds and distract like Greg and erg.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:50 PM (V/U0X)

132 Stuttering clusterf#ck of a miserable Fineman

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 26, 2012 05:50 PM (nTgAI)

133 "And elected leaders need to be held to account -- pinned up against the wall, "-- Fineman, Obama Slurper

I can go with Fineman on this. And all those who helped this usurper and his junta gain and retain power need the same. It would be a good start. Fineman should lead by example.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 05:51 PM (X3lox)

134 This makes sense...but then again do we not see the media do exactly that? Do they also not have reputations to worry about?
___

No they only have /commie/lib preazys to protect and enable.

Posted by: kallisto at September 26, 2012 05:51 PM (jm/9g)

135 Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2012 05:48 PM (jUytm)

Univision?

Posted by: HH at September 26, 2012 05:51 PM (v+ExF)

136
130 When's the last time President I Can't held a press conference?Well he sort of did when he spoke about the attacks on our embassies... Of course he didn't take any questions and hoped on his plane to Vegas baby!
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:50 PM (9+ccr)


Right after Rapin' Akin decided to open his mouth about the magic vaginas with the rape sperm goalies.

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 26, 2012 05:51 PM (GULKT)

137
Instead of prompting the media to actually do their jobs, the media will just point to this piece and say, "See, we're doing our job. Here's Fineman holding Toonces accountable right here!"

And go right back to not doing their jobs.

Posted by: spongeworthy at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (r5w1L)

138 Don't worry folks, as the dreaded Romney landslide becomes more and more ineluctable and apparent, we will see more and more of this from formerly comatose LSMers.

I like to call it "the Panic Cascade."

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (WCzJ6)

139 This is way O/T but I'm watching the local news and I find out that Honey Boo-boo is in GA!? NOOO!!!!!!!

Posted by: Adam at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (/YJYi)

140 MEDIA. Obama was such a cool and uplifting story to so many in the media in 2008 that they essentially ceded ground to him that they have yet to reclaim.

Correction: The MFM and the left burrowed themselves up Barky's ass and have yet to even try to crawl out. They like the surroundings. Feels like home to them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (X3lox)

141
Univision?

Well that wasn't a press conference. It was just another of his many "interviews" he gives like on the View and stuff..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (9+ccr)

142 If I had a son he would look like Tampon

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 26, 2012 05:53 PM (nTgAI)

143 Instead of prompting the media to actually do their jobs, the media will just point to this piece and say, "See, we're doing our job. Here's Fineman holding Toonces accountable right here!"

And go right back to not doing their jobs.

Posted by: spongeworthy at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (r5w1L)

--That's the equivalent of palin steele/proudonkey's ridiculous "I agree with you guys on 60% of the big issues!!!" defense. Troll media.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:53 PM (V/U0X)

144
I'm trying to find the total number of press conf by Obama.

No luck, funnily enough.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (jUytm)

145 The president of the USA is a terrorist. Plain and simple.

Posted by: Up with people! at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (kzFo5)

146 I like to call it "the Panic Cascade."


Like when my German Shepard sneaks up on a flock of ducks and then pounces into the throng with a Wolfish snarl.

Posted by: Beto at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (+I8Mq)

147 139
This is way O/T but I'm watching the local news and I find out that Honey Boo-boo is in GA!? NOOO!!!!!!!


Posted by: Adam at September 26, 2012 05:52 PM (/YJYi)


I completely missed this whole Honey Boo-boo thingy and haven't bothered looking it up. Do you have a quick explanation?

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (X6akg)

148
Yeah that's what Fineman says... but not to Obama. If he did that he would suffer the rath of the others.
This is peer pressure. They are so afraid of each other's critism.
Frankly, I think we need some monopololy laws or something. The left has a monopoly in information. We do have freedom of speech but some platforms of speech have way too much power and those shouldn't be in the hands of one point of view.
I don't know how to fix it. They are too rich to touch. Boycotts, loss of audience, none of that changes any of it. They are simply too rich to be accountable to the public.

Posted by: petunia at September 26, 2012 05:55 PM (SUQOI)

149 I hold the media at least 50% responsible for the current fuckface in office. If they would have done their job in 2008, then we may not be where we are today. So, they can whine and grovel all they want, but in the words of some crappy group I don't know the name of, "it's too late to apologize." They should be shunned, castrated, hung by their toenails, mocked relentlessly and held in disdain for the rest of their (hopefully short-lived) careers.

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (GrtrJ)

150 And elected leaders need to be held to account -- pinned up against the wall, so to speak --
and finger banged

Posted by: Snarkier Roger Simon at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (vjyZP)

151 I completely missed this whole Honey Boo-boo thingy and haven't bothered looking it up. Do you have a quick explanation?

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (X6akg)

--Some lame reality show on a channel like Discovery or TLC. I saw endless commercials for it back in August.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (V/U0X)

152 144


I'm trying to find the total number of press conf by Obama.



No luck, funnily enough.

He doesn't do them. Someone might sneak a real question in and he would have to answer. Do any of you remember the grief W took from the media for not doing enough press conferences?Obama never gets any complaints about his lack, and he truly doesn't give any...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (9+ccr)

153 I completely missed this whole Honey Boo-boo thingy and haven't bothered looking it up. Do you have a quick explanation?


Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (X6akg)




Apparently it's a show that follows a little girl dancer in some small town here in GA. I had never heard about it until I saw a clip of Romney answering a question about it. Then someone on here told me a little about it but not where it was set. Ugh.

Posted by: Adam at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (/YJYi)

154 OT: Putting a price or fatwa on someone's head in the U.S.(like the Pakistani minister (squirrel film maker) and the New Black Panthers (Zimmerman) should be a terrorist act. If that isn't the law, it should be. That is all.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (Rrc6j)

155 I don't know how to fix it.

Fucking bayonets would fix it.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (4x8W0)

156 So, they can whine and grovel all they want, but in the words of some crappy group I don't know the name of, "it's too late to apologize."

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (GrtrJ)


--That was One Republic, and before you blast them, check out the "Apologize: Declaration" version on Youtube.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (V/U0X)

157 If I had a son he would look like Tampon
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 26, 2012 05:53 PM (nTgAI)


---------------------------------------------------


Ain't it strange that we haven't heard a word about that event for a long time.

Posted by: Soona is, like, totally humorless at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (57jOZ)

158 Right after Rapin' Akin decided to open his mouth about the magic vaginas with the rape sperm goalies.

There are other ways to avoid pregnancy besides sperm goalies.

Posted by: wooga, finger banging Peggy Noonan at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (vjyZP)

159 I completely missed this whole Honey Boo-boo thingy and haven't bothered looking it up. Do you have a quick explanation?
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (X6akg)


She was on Toddlers and Tiaras and then they gave her her own show.

The extent I have seen of it is this disturbing remix. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkRnSnGjQgg

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (GULKT)

160 Fucking bayonets would fix it.

+1,000,000,000


Posted by: Beto at September 26, 2012 05:58 PM (+I8Mq)

161 Barry Soetoro answered all questions in the books I wrote for him. To now question BHS-O is racist. Meanwhile, I'm guilty as hell and free as a bird. Suck it serfs!

Posted by: Bill Ayres at September 26, 2012 05:58 PM (wIgpo)

162 I completely missed this whole Honey Boo-boo thingy and haven't bothered looking it up. Do you have a quick explanation?
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 05:54 PM (X6akg)
-------------------------------------------------------
Sure. Grotesquely obese, borderline retarded pagent mom and her grotesquely obese, ill tempered little crotch fruit "Honey Boo Boo" doing their thang for the cameras. It is interesting in much the same way that a multiple fatal freeway accident is interesting. You really want to catch a peek but don't want to watch for long.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 26, 2012 05:59 PM (jucos)

163 That's just crazy-talk.



You can't criticize a god.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 26, 2012 05:59 PM (aUPaQ)

164 162 Not once they break out the flat shovels

Posted by: Beto at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (+I8Mq)

165
Old: cool and uplifting
New: aloof and detached

Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (sOtz/)

166 -Some lame reality show on a channel like Discovery or TLC. I saw endless commercials for it back in August.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (V/U0X)

Apparently it's a show that follows a little girl
dancer in some small town here in GA. I had never heard about it until I
saw a clip of Romney answering a question about it. Then someone on
here told me a little about it but not where it was set. Ugh.


Posted by: Adam at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (/YJYi)


Ah, ok....thanks.

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (X6akg)

167 163 That's just crazy-talk.



You can't criticize a god.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 26, 2012 05:59 PM (aUPaQ)

Nor a prophet.

Posted by: Teh Girly Diddler from the Desert at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (V/U0X)

168
I'm waiting for one of the wealthy conservatives
to buy one of the major networks. Or even Rupert Murdoch putting some
of the Fox News people on Fox network to compete with NBC/CBS/ABC
Nightly News.

Posted by: Rich at September 26, 2012 05:40 PM (TOgQZ)

Over the years I have suggested filing affirmative action lawsuits for liberal bias in hiring. Make those rat-bastards have to conform to a quota system which they so strongly desire to impose on everyone else.
Make them Hire conservatives, and if they don't have at least 40% of their workforce as conservatives, fine them and threaten their licenses. Give them a dose of that stuff, and see if they like that medicine.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (kUU+T)

169
I Fear the debates.
Who are the hackmoderators again? More of the Palace Guard?

Mitt Romney will receive all the questions about lady parts, rape and abortion. and Bain.
Obama will be asked - why are you so awesome?

Posted by: Fresh at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (O7ksG)

170 Fuckin eye candy, man, and for Fineman, who's got his goggles on, TFG's in 3D, for crissakes.

3D eye candy. Slurp him up.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at September 26, 2012 06:01 PM (8QVNc)

171 167

Obama: Prophet or God?

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 26, 2012 06:01 PM (aUPaQ)

172 Fucking bayonets would fix it.+1,000,000,000
Posted by: Beto at September 26, 2012 05:58 PM (+I8Mq

Fix bayonets, and fucking fix it !

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 26, 2012 06:01 PM (nTgAI)

173 this is even more OT, but I'll give it a shot.
Any morons looking for work in Monroe Co NY, Rochester area? It aint great and it will help if youre a cynical distrustful type thats fascinated with the dark lives of strangers. medical background and spanish is best, but others considered.
Plus benefits. LOL

Posted by: uterus cannon at September 26, 2012 06:01 PM (rzA1q)

174 Isn't it a sort of truism that the MFM typically provides for the Democrat/Liberal a "natural" 10-15 or so percent advantage due to its bias? Now look what's happening. They are proactively producing heavily skewed polls (and as heavily as necessary to keep Obama in the lead) that add on even several more points of perceived advantage.

That's what chicken-sh*t outfits we have flogging First Amendment protections. I just wish we could nuke 'em from orbit just to be sure they don't survive another election.


Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 26, 2012 06:02 PM (eHIJJ)

175 If i was the MSM, I'd worry that all those young pot smoking Obama voters will have no incentive to vote since they will think he already won.

Posted by: mikey at September 26, 2012 06:02 PM (kmxWt)

176 Yeah, they’ll keep agonizing over it until Romney’s elected, and then they’ll come to a decision.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 26, 2012 06:02 PM (QF8uk)

177 The extent I have seen of it is this disturbing remix. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkRnSnGjQgg

Posted by: buzzion - Free Kratos at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (GULKT)


That was.....disturbing. I didn't even make it to 45s.

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 06:02 PM (X6akg)

178 Who can take the job growth
Grind it to a halt
Blame it on George Bush
Because you know it's his fault?

Eye Candyman
Eye Candyman can
Eye Candyman can 'cause he mixes it with lies and makes elites feel good.

Who loves regulation
Trillion dollar debt
Who can win a Nobel prize without doing anything yet?

Eye Candyman
Eye Candyman can
Eye Candyman can 'cause he mixes it with lies and makes elites feel good.





Posted by: AmishDude at September 26, 2012 06:02 PM (T0NGe)

179 I Fear the debates. Who are the hackmoderators again? More of the Palace Guard?Mitt Romney will receive all the questions about lady parts, rape and abortion. and Bain.Obama will be asked - why are you so awesome?
Posted by: Fresh at September 26, 2012 06:00 PM (O7ksG)

Mitt, have you ever spoken with the angel Moroni and what did you talk about ?
Where do you keep your other wives ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 26, 2012 06:02 PM (nTgAI)

180 And elected leaders need to be held to account -- pinned up against the wall, so to speak



Go awn, Howie.

fap

fap


fap

fap


fap

fap


fap

fap

Posted by: Barney Frank at September 26, 2012 06:03 PM (V/U0X)

181
Old: cool and uplifting
New: burning sensation and some sagging

Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 06:03 PM (sOtz/)

182 Why has Mitt Romney felt the need to oppress his wife's uterus so much?

Posted by: Just asking questions at September 26, 2012 06:03 PM (60GaT)

183 Fox is quoting the Q polls === says Romney is 'playing catch-up'


you don't 'catch up' to what's behind you



Posted by: Major _____ de Coverly at September 26, 2012 06:03 PM (Dll6b)

184 "This should be awk-ward!, as the homosexuals say."

Wait, what? I'm Funnybot, not Funnyhomo.

Posted by: Funnybot at September 26, 2012 06:04 PM (eHIJJ)

185 You really want to catch a peek but don't want to watch for long.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 26, 2012 05:59 PM (jucos)


Yes, see my comment #177. Ugh.

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 06:04 PM (X6akg)

186 Ignore them, shuffle their seats to the back of the room, freeze them

out. Do you think they can be any more anti-Romney than they are?

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 05:45 PM (9+ccr)

That actually might work out better then you imagine. Disrespecting them to the point that they are actually exhibiting raw hatred of Romney would backfire nicely on those rat bastards. I say box their ears and kick them in the balls, then tell the to go on camera and report about him.

I would love to see some frothing at the mouth reporters trying to hide their hatred. It would be illuminating for the public.




Posted by: DiogenesLamp at September 26, 2012 06:04 PM (kUU+T)

187 When the Huffpo says the media Obama fluffers are...ummm fluffers, maybe its time for some media naval gazing.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 26, 2012 06:04 PM (Q+WQU)

188
The free press destroyed this country, plain and simple. They took their freedom and abused it to support their candidate. Whata shame.

Posted by: Michael B Babbitt at September 26, 2012 06:04 PM (OpRqU)

189
"And elected leaders need to be held to account -- linedpinned up against the wall, "-- Fineman, Obama Slurper


If Obama's buddies have their way, these useful idiots will be first up against the wall.


Posted by: sick of MFM hacks at September 26, 2012 06:04 PM (9sUlj)

190 Apparently it's a show that follows a little girl dancer in some small town here in GA. I had never heard about it until I saw a clip of Romney answering a question about it. Then someone on here told me a little about it but not where it was set. Ugh.Posted by: Adam at September 26, 2012 05:56 PM (/YJYi)


----------------------------------------------------


I didn't really know either. I googled it. Now I wish I didn't know.

Posted by: Soona is, like, totally humorless at September 26, 2012 06:05 PM (57jOZ)

191 I'm not going to get all wordy and write an essay so I'll be blunt. A self-governing country like ours cannot survive when the information it needs to make informed decisions is under the absolute stranglehold control of one party. A party that has a totalitarian, control freak, authoritarian ideology.

IT. DOES. NOT. SURVIVE.

The enemy is on your TV set.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 26, 2012 06:05 PM (4x8W0)

192
--That was One Republic, and before you blast them, check out the "Apologize: Declaration" version on Youtube.



Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 05:57 PM (V/U0X)


Sorry. I hope it's not too late to apologiiiiiizzzeeeeee

Posted by: DangerGirl (@deadlyestrogen) at September 26, 2012 06:05 PM (GrtrJ)

193 Romney did very well in debates with dipsh*t hack moderators


shred Obama, he will----- and you get to watch, live, with no fake polls

Posted by: Major _____ de Coverly at September 26, 2012 06:05 PM (Dll6b)

194
Why isn't Romney making ads that list all of Obama's broken promises?
The list is HUGE!
It could be a 3- part series.

Obama promised to "cut the debt in half". I nstead he blames Bush and added trillions upon trillions.
He promised to lower health care costs. They are soaring and projected to sky-rocket. Nevermind the taxes inside Obamacare.
He promised to lower unemploymentthrough "Stimulus". Turns out all that money went to his wealthy cronies and donors.

He promised to lower the sea (don't mention that one again - it's a joke by now)

The only promise Obama has kept? Gas prices have skyrocketed!

Posted by: Fresh at September 26, 2012 06:05 PM (O7ksG)

195 The MarxSpewMedia are the reason I will vote straight R ticket. A hostile media is good to keep politicians honest. Since they can't even pretend some hostility to any communist or social democrat we have got to elect only other parties until they can reform themselves.

Now I would like to see an actual conservative party and have real choices soon but I cannot ever again vote for the party that the media is in bed with, this is absolutely destroying our country.

Posted by: PaleRider at September 26, 2012 06:06 PM (dkExz)

196
Obama laughed at "shovel ready" jobs.

REal funny. 23 mil out of work.

Posted by: Fresh at September 26, 2012 06:06 PM (O7ksG)

197 Okay just because FOX News mentioned Quinnipiac.

The Quinnipiac Florida poll had this breakdown--

Republican-- 27%

Dem--36%

Independent--33%

Other/DK/NA-- 4% (this group by the way...disappears in their cross tabs-wth?)

Now the Florida exit polls for the Presidential election 2008--

Republicans --34%

Dem--37%

Independents--29%

____________

So the Quinnipiac poll model has negative --7% Republican turn out from 2008.


What the hell?

Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 06:07 PM (r2PLg)

198 Loving that sidebar vid of what looked to be about a half mile line, in the rain, in Toledo, to see Romney.

Folks who will stand in the rain to listen to a candidate will go out in the rain to vote for him.

The same cannot be said of Obama's 2008 supporters in 2012.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 06:07 PM (piMMO)

199 Just love to see this once at a press conference (?).

"And how exactly do you propose to do that, Mr. President? What is your plan?"

Odd thing though, I'mguessing that will be held in reserve for Romney..

Posted by: HH at September 26, 2012 06:08 PM (v+ExF)

200 Honey boo-boo is about a redneck family in a small town near where I grew up in GA.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2012 06:08 PM (YdQQY)

201
Crotch fruit - love it.

Also, Fuck Trophy.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 26, 2012 06:09 PM (vaKm1)

202 Why should the media criticize the President if there is nothing or at least very littleto criticize? Are they supposed to make stuff up, like the rightwing blogosphere, hate-radioand Faux News?
Objectivity doesnt mean to criticize equally, when one side is self-evidently wrong and bigotted.

Posted by: Obamism4America at September 26, 2012 06:09 PM (rOvsu)

203
Eight long years of the Bush presidency contributed tomedia bias strongly in favor of President Obama, experts say

Posted by: MSM at September 26, 2012 06:10 PM (sOtz/)

204 I want to be the one to pin Obama to the wall.

Posted by: 0bamajism4America at September 26, 2012 06:10 PM (V/U0X)

205 http://tinyurl.com/c249gus


THREE-STAR GENERAL: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD HAS INFILTRATED PENTAGON, DOD IN ‘HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE’ POSITIONS


WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Evilpens at September 26, 2012 06:11 PM (ck76k)

206 Why should the media criticize the President if there is nothing or at least very littleto criticize? Are they supposed to make stuff up, like the rightwing blogosphere, hate-radioand Faux News? Objectivity doesnt mean to criticize equally, when one side is self-evidently wrong and bigotted.
Posted by: Obamism4America at September 26, 2012 06:09 PM (rOvsu)

Mary is that you ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at September 26, 2012 06:12 PM (nTgAI)

207
@202
Brilliant frolling with extra misspellings for verisimilitude. Ah, I think.

Posted by: MSM at September 26, 2012 06:12 PM (sOtz/)

208 0bamajizm4America, trolls like you are redundant and obsolete when the media are already performing your tasks.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 06:13 PM (V/U0X)

209 THREE-STAR GENERAL: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD HAS INFILTRATED PENTAGON, DOD IN ‘HIGH SECURITY CLEARANCE’ POSITIONS


****

There's a gal on Twitter who has been pushing that theory, first espoused by Michelle Bachmann, for a while now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 06:13 PM (piMMO)

210 new post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 06:13 PM (piMMO)

211
@209
Google: Hesham Islam Stephen Coughlin for a taste of the problem.

Posted by: MSM at September 26, 2012 06:16 PM (sOtz/)

212 Brilliant frolling with extra misspellings for verisimilitude. Ah, I think.

Posted by: MSM at September 26, 2012 06:12 PM (sOtz/)

--A froll? Crap, I knew it was too good to be true.

Posted by: logprof at September 26, 2012 06:16 PM (V/U0X)

213 If we don't see all of the polls tighten in the next few weeks then the narrative will be set. Romney, I believe, will win by at least 5 points and more likely even more. So the polls showing JEF up by 4 or 5 will be used by the libtards to show that the diabolical Romney has stolen the election.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 26, 2012 06:16 PM (jucos)

214 "Objectivity doesnt mean to criticize equally, when one side is self-evidently wrong and bigotted."

this line basically sums up why liberals in the media (and in general) think they're "centrists" or "fair-minded" while no similar denial of ideology exists on the Right

Jonah Goldberg's new book nailed this

Posted by: JParker at September 26, 2012 06:17 PM (60GaT)

215 Something I haven't said since 2003: "I should put on Hardball."

Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 06:19 PM (sOtz/)

216 I'm trying to find the total number of press conf by Obama.No luck, funnily enough.Posted by: the pink not panicking

Between March 6 and Aug 16, they held none according to this article:
http://goo.gl/dWVm6

Then scanning forward Tapper has the report of Obama 'making a surprise appearance' at Carney's stand up to denounce Akin on Aug 20.
http://goo.gl/UIHDw

Then nothing since AKAIK.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2012 06:22 PM (CdCPN)

217 167 163 That's just crazy-talk.

You can't criticize a god.

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at September 26, 2012 05:59 PM (aUPaQ)

Nor a prophet.


Sure you can. Allah is a pansey ass & Mo is a goat humping pedophile. Easy peasy.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2012 06:30 PM (L2I78)

218 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 26, 2012 06:31 PM (6o4Fb)

219 re: The media in general will try to save their collective asses, after Romney is elected...

Fineman wrote this because he's afraid the OBAMA will win. As a reformed member of the MSM, I can tell you that as leftist as most are, they really aren't all dunces. They CAN see that he's a total disaster. They can read the polls on media credibility. And they KNOW they're going to be walking around with target's on THEIR backs for what they've done...But they cannot go after Obama. Too much, way too much, peer pressure.

Romney wins, it's all good: they've got a perfect whipping boy for four years. Obama wins and what do they have? A horrible economy, a feckless loser in the White House that THEY put in there. 60% already hate them. That will go to 80% in two years...mark my words...IF Obama wins...which he won't.

Posted by: watchtheface at September 26, 2012 06:48 PM (ROdby)

220 Wow, 202 is so fraught with stupid it makes erg look like William F. Buckley.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 26, 2012 07:05 PM (aHR5E)

221 Objectivity doesnt mean to criticize equally, when one side is self-evidently wrong and bigotted.

Yes, hmm ... quite.

Posted by: toby928© at September 26, 2012 07:19 PM (QupBk)

222 fineman feeding the jews at the end the war. "See. I'm one of the good guys!"

Posted by: rik at September 26, 2012 07:37 PM (gQxm3)

223 Or they're all just liars pushing their agenda.

That could be.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 26, 2012 07:45 PM (bxiXv)

224 If American democracy is to work -- if we are to prevent the blood from clotting in the body politic

So he's in favor of hemophillia?

Posted by: rfichoke at September 26, 2012 08:03 PM (l6GOr)

225 First of all, who is this Suirrel fellow?

As for Howard Finemann, Yes! I certainly applaud those less-cranially-advantaged of us who manage to become vaguely aware of their surroundings after a three year bender of adulation and syncophancy. Clap clap.


Posted by: West at September 26, 2012 09:00 PM (5pHWa)

226 How about we expect that motherfucker Obama to actually do his job and sign one piece of paper? Oh, wait, I'm a racist. Preznitin' is hard, and I don't understand his struggles to survive on a VIP trip to New York. Fuck this motherfucker. He won't do his job, so I'm losing mine "temporarily." Looks like one of the first-time unemployment applications on Monday is going to be mine.

Posted by: SGT Dan at September 26, 2012 09:54 PM (dqSmk)






Processing 0.04, elapsed 0.0673 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0389 seconds, 235 records returned.
Page size 117 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.

MuNuvians
MeeNuvians
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat