Libyan President Tells a Baffled, Befuddled, and In All Ways Bewildered Ann Curry That The YouTube Clip Had Nothing to Do With The Terrorist Attack
You know, one thing I give the Libyans, and it's a pretty big thing: Since day one, they have been straight with us about this, while our own President, Secretary of State, and media have lied to us.
The whole clip is worth watching -- he says it's definitely a terrorist attack, given the fact that indirect-fire mortars (five of them) were used to attack the safe-house; that's not something that people "spontaneously" break out -- but Ann Curry's baffletude reaches a climax from 2:08 to 2:31. Here's a question I don't know the answer to: It would be the easiest thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever Obama says. So why isn't he? Think about all the reasons the Libyans have to go along with Obama's lie. Money. Shifting blame away. Covering up their own terrorist problems. General diplomatic bullshit. But they just won't. They have said from day one "This is terrorism and it's probably some Al Qaeda aligned group, or some Qaddaffi holdouts, or both."Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy
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Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:52 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Cicero at September 26, 2012 01:52 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 01:52 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 26, 2012 01:52 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 01:52 PM (9+ccr)
The last time Libya was in the news before Obama and his "Arab Spring" was when Mallomar was showing off his two blonde nurses.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:53 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2012 01:54 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Karusky at September 26, 2012 01:54 PM (dKyuh)
Before Obama's meddling, the only 'threat' out of Libya was Muamar stealing all the white blond ho's.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:54 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 26, 2012 01:54 PM (U+DUu)
The truth no longer matters. It's all praise for the Anointed One and dissing Rmoney for his gaffes.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 26, 2012 01:55 PM (ZgX/g)
Posted by: SH at September 26, 2012 01:55 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 26, 2012 01:55 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: ace at September 26, 2012 01:55 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: Cicero at September 26, 2012 01:55 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: ace at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (LCRYB)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: Cicero at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: kallisto at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (jm/9g)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (iEAdC)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:56 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (zji3t)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: ace at September 26, 2012 01:55 PM (LCRYB)
Buttfucked? Doesn't really fit the context, but ...
Posted by: eastvalleyphx says fuck islam at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (GRvW4)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (U+DUu)
bifurcated?
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Darren No. 1 at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (4df7R)
bidenesque?
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: The Q at September 26, 2012 01:57 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Toure at September 26, 2012 01:58 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: ace at September 26, 2012 01:58 PM (LCRYB)
byzantine?
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:58 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 01:58 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 26, 2012 01:58 PM (9+ccr)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 01:58 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: Savannah Guthrie at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Muad'dib at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (KjlbF)
black?
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: 2 x 4 at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (i7cDO)
Posted by: Axelpod at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (60GaT)
Probably because he has yet to learn that diplomacy means to never lie except to prevent yourself from telling the truth.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (CdCPN)
Posted by: Anchovy at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (abgDA)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (4WhSY)
It would be the easiest thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever Obama says. So why isn't he?
Why should he support Obama? Either Obama is out in November OR Obama stays in and will keep leading from behind - that is, ignoring Libya. Either way, there's no reason to help him out.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (il+Xn)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2012 01:59 PM (i7cDO)
A little After-Effects and Movie-Magic would've done wonders for the meme.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 26, 2012 02:00 PM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:00 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: MAJHAM at September 26, 2012 02:00 PM (iwbZd)
The Obama Administration for the truth getting out?
OR
Matt Lauer for having Ann Curry, hie bete noire, get the biggest news to come off that program since the 1970s?
Posted by: The Q at September 26, 2012 02:00 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 26, 2012 02:00 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: polynikes at September 26, 2012 02:01 PM (m2CN7)
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2012 02:01 PM (i7cDO)
Not just relay the message.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:01 PM (r2PLg)
-No
"It had to be the video. It was a protest, right?"
-No
"But it was the video that set off the protest."
-No
"So this video led to the deaths of Americans."
-NO YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH!! THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VIDEO. WHAT FUCKING PART OF "I AM ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK," DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!?!?!!?!?!?
Posted by: chiefjaybob at September 26, 2012 02:01 PM (tFQ2w)
Posted by: Matt Damon! at September 26, 2012 02:01 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 26, 2012 02:02 PM (vDl/w)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2012 02:02 PM (XDfSm)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:02 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: Warden at September 26, 2012 02:02 PM (0DlnM)
Posted by: Warden at September 26, 2012 02:02 PM (0DlnM)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: wheatie at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: Soona at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (57jOZ)
burrito?
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (jUytm)
Barack?
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (ggRof)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiH25LT6hFc
Posted by: RUSH at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (i7cDO)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 26, 2012 02:03 PM (Ho2rs)
Posted by: LibertarianJim at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: Barry O at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (60GaT)
But they just won't. They have said from day one "This is terrorism and it's probably some Al Qaeda aligned group, or some Qaddaffi holdouts, or both."
Libya was the one area where Arab spring resulted in a secular government winning the election. I don't think the fact that this is where Al Qaeda decided to attack us is incidental. They want us pissed at Libya, because they want us to stop supporting the government, because that way the Islamists can take it over.
If the President goes along with it just being people upset by the video, it's easier in the U.S. to blame that on all Libyans.
If he doesn't, then he points out the fact the people who did this are the same people who oppose him.
Posted by: AD at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (8+Oy4)
Posted by: Killerdog at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (3FjkF)
Appears the Libyans didn't know there were a dozen CIA in Benghazi.
Someone knew, and they wanted them gone.
Posted by: Nukie at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (OL96w)
Posted by: Warden at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (0DlnM)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - I have seen Chupacabra! at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (hLRSq)
I still can not fathom his strategy here other than gross incompetence.
Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (YdQQY)
Why do you keep pointing at that chair? You act like it's saying something.
Posted by: The Libyan President at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned, ready to get this done at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (baL2B)
Posted by: CUS at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Ohiogal at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (SAYgH)
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (MVGKx)
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: dan-O at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (sWycd)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (j1gX1)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever
Obama says. So why isn't he?
1. They fear the terrorists and need our support to keep them from going Arab Spring on Libya.
2. They don't think OBumbles is going to win, and know that lying about the details of this event will cost them a lot of trust and support from the new administration.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (06lNq)
Posted by: dan-O at September 26, 2012 02:05 PM (sWycd)
That's rhetorical right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (j1gX1)
criminal investigation in an attempt to cutoff all new information about
the attack.
Then we find out that the FBI never went to Benghazi or did such a half-assed crime scene survey that CNN found the ambassador's journal.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 26, 2012 02:06 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:07 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: Lord Lightweight at September 26, 2012 02:07 PM (FcR7P)
Because 1) what he's saying is probably true; 2) if it is true, the people who did it are not friends to his regime; 3) by saying "al Qaeda elements hiding in Libya" then he can say it's not Libya's fault.
By the way, if Bush was President, I think the administration story would align with Libya's. True, we'd get a black eye for poor security and response, but we would also be able to say, "Hey, it's not the new government we put in power." Moreover, the media would have long ago ditched the movie version as laughable disinformation.
In contrast, Obama's narrative is that when these nuts act up it *has* to be because of something we've done. We can't admit that playing nice for three years hasn't made them reciprocate.
(Playing nice except for Obama's drone fetish and boasting about how President Honey Boo-boo tore Bin Laden's heart out and ate it before Binny's body hit the ground.)
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 26, 2012 02:07 PM (M2x4y)
Al Qaeda had nothing to do with the embassy attack.
They're. All. The. Same. Mob.
Call them rebels. Call them terrorists. Whatever. Same mob, different target.
Of course, the Libyan president is blaming Al Qaeda. He's not gonna admit that the people responsible are his "rebels" who we armed and funded.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 02:07 PM (jUytm)
that's her "concerned" schtick...... leaning in...tilting her head...with her unkept hair....& she's probably having a hard time reconciling the fact that she is helping to destroy her hero the scoamf.......even if she's making a career comeback....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 26, 2012 02:07 PM (Ho2rs)
I believe it's this as well.
Fucking Obama is scraping the bottom of the barrel to get elected and he doesn't care if it takes strikes on innocent people. How hard is to figure he could say it's those crazy muzzies and get people calling for strikes while out of the other side of his mouth talk this slander crap to appear the peace lover?
Posted by: ryukyu at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (Cvyuv)
Posted by: AD at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (8+Oy4)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: CUS at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (84pE9)
$500 million in change.
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (FcR7P)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever
Obama says. So why isn't he?
_________________
Damn it--that's a good question.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (bJm7W)
Posted by: Killerdog at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (3FjkF)
Posted by: Pious Agnostic at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (PiESu)
Curry: [The great and awesome] Pres. Obama isn't calling it a terrorist attack. He's stopped short of it.
Libyan Pres.: (paraphrase). Um, well, I am the president of Libya and I'm telling you it's a terrorist attack [you dumb ****]
Also, when he points out what was obvious to anyone with half a brain that the 9/11 date was significant, she has a blank look. It didn't settle into her impermeable brain.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (6zgse)
Plus, it looks like it's, you know, true.
Posted by: Secundus at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (epI4L)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: eureka! at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (cTjRR)
That's only because the Libyan president didn't understand how much of a serious enemy of America Barky is. If he had known then he would have been in with the Indonesian Dog-Eater and his lies from the very beginning.
Wait until Israel strikes Iran and we get to see the lies that Barky makes up about that, right before he takes the US to war with Israel on the French/Eurotrash say-so. I'm not joking. Barky is dying to throw a blockade on Israel to make them weak enough for the arabs to destroy and most of the Eurotrash are dying to finish the job of WWII, too.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (X3lox)
All I said was that the Easter Bunny at the Menlo Park Mall was more convincing.
Posted by: Brodie at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (i7cDO)
Bwahahahahaha. He's a muzzie. His rule book tells him to lie when talking to infidels.
More like MikeTheMoose's answer #2 in #89.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (GFM2b)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Pete at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: 13times at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (h6XiD)
Posted by: President Eye Candy at September 26, 2012 02:10 PM (wIgpo)
Libyan Pres.: That's nice. Is President Romney in?
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (FcR7P)
Remember when they used to have actual FBI press conferences detailing progress on investigations? Remember when the head of the FBI used to testify before Congress? Where is the FBI? It's like they are all in the witness protection program or something.
Oh, and for that matter, where is General Petraeus and how come HE isn't being called in to testify tot he Intelligence Committee? Is he missing as well?
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (GoIUi)
They're. All. The. Same. Mob.Posted by: soothsayer
Huh? Are you trying to say that AQM and other affiliates don't exist?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (CdCPN)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (1hLHC)
Posted by: David Frum at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (60GaT)
---
Except she looks and sounds condescending towards the Libyan Pres when she does that. But, she is one of the deciders, after all.
Posted by: CUS at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (84pE9)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever
Obama says. So why isn't he?
****
Because exchanging one type of tyranny for another can't be all that appealing. They must know that almost any other POTUS would have had their backs, and sooner than TFG.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: General Woundwort at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (06lNq)
Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Pete at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: AD at September 26, 2012 02:08 PM (8+Oy4)
Vapidity - it's not just for the news anchor anymore...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 26, 2012 02:11 PM (136wp)
"By the way, if Bush was President, I think the administration story
would align with Libya's. True, we'd get a black eye for poor security
and response, but we would also be able to say, "Hey, it's not the new
government we put in power." Moreover, the media would have long ago
ditched the movie version as laughable disinformation."
No, people like Senator Hillary would be demanding hearings as to why we didn't prevent it, what did Bush know, etc. And Squeeky Kucinich would introduce an impeachment resolution because Bush lied.
For people like Obama, having the media on your side makes it possible to appear brilliant and incompetent at the same time.
Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (bJm7W)
Barrak: Verb: 1. To screw up due to incompetence. 2. to choose staff who you know are not competent. 3. To declare a defeat a victory.
Ex: I really barraked up Libya...
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Evilpens at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (ck76k)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (8y9MW)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever Obama says. So why isn't he?
Does "all disagreement with Obama is because of racism" apply outside of North America and Europe?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (/kI1Q)
The Obama Administration: Who are you going to believe? Me, or your lyin' eyes?
Posted by: MJ at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (TR60b)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (U+DUu)
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (oPOWQ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (j1gX1)
lie. Money. Shifting blame away. Covering up their own terrorist
problems. General diplomatic bullshit.
Because they know TFG is going down in November, and don't want to be tied to him?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Sir Mixalot at September 26, 2012 02:13 PM (i7cDO)
****
I can't remember who wrote it a few days ago but I loved it:
Who you gonna believe? Some ramshackle government or the Libyans?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 02:13 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:13 PM (1hLHC)
Plus, you know, it's true.
Posted by: Andy at September 26, 2012 02:13 PM (5Rurq)
Posted by: Mazzuchelli at September 26, 2012 02:13 PM (zAZNI)
Among phrases I didn't expect to see in ... ever. The Steelers have always had among the best defenses in the league.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:13 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (wAhNv)
Jon Ward@jonward11
UN Sec Gen Ban Ki-moon joked today about Obama not meeting w/world ldrs: "I think he must be busy with something at this moment."
Posted by: RWC at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: toby928© at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (QupBk)
Posted by: Countrysquire at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (1hLHC)
I don't know if your question would change this hypothetical--
The Libyan stronghold of resistance to Kaddafi was- Benghazi.
Now this current government does not have control over it either..
What gives them the excuse to get control of it?
The consulate attack.
Getting rid of rivals--it's as old as Stalin--older even.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: mallfly at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (bJm7W)
I think the Libyan President is banking on a Romney Presidency after the Elections...
He knows who will be signing the checks for the next four years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: Pete at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (sOtz/)
trying to explain to a kid that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny don't
exist.
****
What are you talking about?!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY DON'T EXIST?!!!!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (piMMO)
lie. Money. Shifting blame away. Covering up their own terrorist
problems. General diplomatic bullshit.
Because they know TFG is going down in November, and don't want to be tied to him?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:12 PM (8y9MW)
But, but, but the polls!
Posted by: L1berial at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (136wp)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 02:15 PM (jUytm)
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 26, 2012 02:15 PM (K/Mge)
It's the most....shall we say...Machiavellian? It makes perfect sense.
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2012 02:15 PM (GQ8sn)
Because he doesn't have our friendly media to hide behind and explain to his people how they can't believe their lying eyes. And because he doesn't see Obama as a useful ally. He knows that going along with Obama's obviously false story will do more harm than good, once Romney is in office.
Posted by: GalosGann at September 26, 2012 02:15 PM (T3KlW)
Posted by: Pious Agnostic at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (PiESu)
------------------------------------------------
How dare he diss the lightworker. Doesn't this guy know that Baraka is bestest friends with Beyonce?
Posted by: Soona at September 26, 2012 02:15 PM (57jOZ)
Option 2: Maybe the Libyan president doesn't believe the polling either?
Option 3: The immediate threat to his party's power is Jihadists rather than a pissy TFG?
Posted by: runninrebel at September 26, 2012 02:15 PM (N/1Dm)
Posted by: USA at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (RIg+t)
Posted by: imp at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: Jon laughing at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (60GaT)
with half a brain that the 9/11 date was significant, she has a blank
look. It didn't settle into her impermeable brain.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 26, 2012 02:09 PM (6zgse)
"Half a brain" is an urealistic expectation with Ann.
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (iEAdC)
I mean there was a response to a grovelling twitter tweet, that had to have some impact????
signed,
xxoo
msm
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (QxSug)
bedeviled?
Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 02:16 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 02:17 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: MT at September 26, 2012 02:17 PM (v+XsT)
Ann looks as if she is gobsmacked when she interviews a farmer who tells her potatoes grow in the ground.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 26, 2012 02:17 PM (0q2P7)
Ace,
Because Barky has been gloating about 'killing Bin Laden'?
How can that sit well, with muslims in general.
The 'Pro-America Demonstration' that was held, after the attack...didn't look like it was 'Pro-TFG'.
It was just....'Pro-American'.
Posted by: wheatie at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (l5RhJ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)
And as for the blaming of it on al-Quaeda, yes, obviously that is what the Libyan gov't is after, a way to cozen up to Romney in exchange for material support upon his election. It's a certain signal to Romney that they will support Romney's appearance as presidential and in command of foreign policy, in exchange for support after Jan 20.
Posted by: imp at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (UaxA0)
Posted by: LASue at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (wAhNv)
Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (sOtz/)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (jUytm)
Sadly true, Old Age & a DC that CAN'T, WON'T change or combination of the 2
Posted by: Evilpens at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (ck76k)
****
But, but... she's seen those ads for the plants that grown upside down on your patio!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: JustDave in GR at September 26, 2012 02:19 PM (IxA54)
All things being equal I would believe the American President. But you have to take into consideration the motives each has for lying. In this case, Obama has a greater reason.
Second, you look at which story is more plausible. In this case, clearly the Libyan story is.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 26, 2012 02:19 PM (M2x4y)
That's why we have government.
Posted by: Peggy Joseph at September 26, 2012 02:19 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: maddogg at September 26, 2012 02:19 PM (OlN4e)
Here's your premium VIP membership login credentials to Ace of Spades HQ. You'll have to use the members only URL to access the special content.
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2012 02:19 PM (GQ8sn)
On Fox yesterday some dem spokeshole was STILL trying mightily to
deflect from Obama's foreign policy disasters and "bumps in the road"
comment by talking about Romney's so-called gaffe in criticising the
appeasement tweets.
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Might it have been Alan Colmes? He's been more shameless than usual these last few days.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at September 26, 2012 02:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: UW Huskies at September 26, 2012 02:20 PM (wAhNv)
Posted by: Boned at September 26, 2012 02:20 PM (CMbMd)
Posted by: 13times at September 26, 2012 02:20 PM (h6XiD)
He knows who will be signing the checks for the next four years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2012 02:14 PM (lZBBB)
I doubt the Libyans know jack about American politics and probably think that Barky will stay Emperor forever. The Libyan president likely didn't know that Barky is as shameless as any arab, hated America just as much, and would make up such a ridiculous lie to tell America (as it was clear to everyone that Barky and his junta were full of shit from the beginning). The Libyan president probably thought that he was making the same argument Barky was going to make and got himself locked into that story. Now, however, he realizes that barky is truly an enemy of America, which will give him much more leeway in the future.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 02:21 PM (X3lox)
So it's like Detroit then?
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular! With Full Stomping Power! at September 26, 2012 02:21 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2012 02:21 PM (y2Ojs)
Posted by: TOTUS at September 26, 2012 02:21 PM (dVJLS)
Posted by: Yakov Kahdafy at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (W2qJe)
Posted by: meatyboy at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (2WENO)
Posted by: Fluke. Sandra Fluke. at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: جماعة الإخوان ال at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (XvHmy)
Somebody should throw Hillary's "suspend disbelief" comment back in her face.
Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2012 02:21 PM (y2Ojs)
I'd rather throw a brick.
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Bosk at September 26, 2012 02:22 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 26, 2012 02:23 PM (3zV6k)
Ya know, I potentially have sympathy for the Libyan government. They're a brand new outfit with a tenuous grasp on power, and a bunch of crazed shitheads running amok ... gotta be tough. Hell, we can't control our feral inner city types whenever something happens that they don't like (Rodney King verdict) or even something that they do (winning a championship).
So I could cut them some slack, assuming they're on the level with us.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 26, 2012 02:23 PM (U+DUu)
Posted by: concrete girl at September 26, 2012 02:21 PM (y2Ojs)
I'd rather throw a brick.
You could print out the comment and wrap it around a brick. Win/win!
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:23 PM (8y9MW)
Egyptian President- "That's a nice embassy you got there. Would be a shame if something were to, you know, happen to it"
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2012 02:24 PM (SY2Kh)
They're so far gone, they're irredeemable.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 26, 2012 02:24 PM (vbh31)
September 24, 2012|Peter Graff and Ghaith Shennib | Reuters
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BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - Libya's government, seeking to assert its authority over private militias following the killing of U.S. diplomats in Benghazi, placed two powerful freelance units in the city under the command of full-time army officers on Monday.
Commanders of two units which have, with official sanction, been providing security since the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi were ordered removed and the men of the February 17 Brigade and Rafallah al-Sahati militia put under army orders. A third unit, Libya's Shield, would also change leadership, an official said.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:24 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: maddogg at September 26, 2012 02:19 PM (OlN4e)
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Hidden agenda? Get real. It's always about those sweet sweet American dollars.
Posted by: Soona at September 26, 2012 02:24 PM (57jOZ)
And that Yankee Go Home "certain message" was a huge F-U! to Obama and to the US intelligence and military/security forces. Regardless of years spending tax funds and spilling blood, Americans won't be any more secure in Libya than those are who've been ordered by America's CinC to nation-build Iraq, to remain in Afghanistan, or get stationed in any Muslim nation.
Obama's "private army, just as well trained and supplied as the US Military" ... The very people that our government agents spent our taxes to train and supply for the "Arab Spring" did this on 9-11 not simply "because they could" but "to carry a certain message."
Of course Magarief is going to quickly denounce the terrorism; his ass is on the US line. But at the same time, there's no way he can maintain ANY semblance of stability in Libya where armaments abound in the hands of highly trained terrorists, no thanks to our US foreign aid and foreign policy, if Magarief absolutely crosses swords his first year to play the brutal dictator against Libyans, be they terrorists or not. That would prove that Libya is conquered by Westerners, which would mean his own assassination by Libyans.
So this current US puppet Libyan President is walking the tight rope razor's edge. While reprimanding the al Qaeda forces/plot, by Magarief exposing Obama to be the liar who flaunts the most STOOPID lies to cover his ass, Magarief diplomatically achieves the embarrassment of Obama, the same target meant to be shamed by the scheduled uprising and murders of Obama's US Ambassador with his top Libyan intelligence and security officials.
One thing is obvious about Magarief, he certainly knows diplomacy. You don't live long there without having proven your ability to survive.
Posted by: maverick muse at September 26, 2012 02:25 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2012 02:25 PM (1Jaio)
Fuck, my head is really starting to hurt.
Posted by: Killerdog at September 26, 2012 02:25 PM (3FjkF)
Posted by: soothsayer at September 26, 2012 02:25 PM (jUytm)
I doubt that.... you don't think they have the internet or intelligence services in Libya?
Guys not a dolt... and he may very well be reading the mood of the American Electorate better than pundits, press, or the Administration.
Don't, in your hubris, think thatEVERYONE else in the world is an idiot. Or that its not in the interest of many countries out there to follow America's internal politics.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2012 02:26 PM (lZBBB)
Posted by: USA at September 26, 2012 02:26 PM (RIg+t)
Posted by: ejo at September 26, 2012 02:27 PM (Bmz/O)
Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2012 02:27 PM (VndSC)
The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Sep 26, 2012 8:02:24 EDT
GROTON, Conn. — The Navy plans to keep fewer submarines in Groton as the military shifts its focus toward Asia, the top admiral said.
I am sure Putin will be pleased
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 26, 2012 02:28 PM (j1gX1)
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Wait. Potatoes are on a shelf, in a plastic bag at the store. What to you mean they come from the ground?
Posted by: Ann Curry at September 26, 2012 02:28 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2012 02:04 PM (YdQQY)
Ahhhhh, ye olde "Gross Incompetence" strategy. Well done indeed Obama.
Posted by: Heralder at September 26, 2012 02:28 PM (+xmn4)
It's right there in the damn photo! They refuse to believe what they photographed and are publishing!
Apparently the only person offended by the film is Obama.
Posted by: Dang© at September 26, 2012 02:28 PM (R18D0)
This.
Granted, Libya may well end up to be just another Islamicist hellhole and terrorist breeding ground, but it's unrealistic to expect them to have a fully functional government in complete control of the country after what they've been through.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2012 02:28 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 26, 2012 02:29 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2012 02:29 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:24 PM (r2PLg)
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And this is just bathroom security.
Posted by: Soona at September 26, 2012 02:29 PM (57jOZ)
Posted by: USA at September 26, 2012 02:29 PM (RIg+t)
signed, xxoo
the media
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 02:29 PM (QxSug)
Rebels didn't attack our consulate. It was a select group of AQ or other trained individuals operating outside of local control.
Think back to the footage from the uprising. The Ghaddaffi loyalists were pwning the rebels left and right in any stand up fights. They got beat back when US air power found them and dropped some JDAMs or Hellfires. The rebels were sparying and praying most of their precious ammo into the air, with a hit percentage hovering around 0.01%.
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: sherlock at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (s0hlt)
Posted by: Fritz at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (vm7ot)
Does it really need to be explained why the leader of a country with a massive power vacuum and multiple factions fighting for superiority needs this encounter to come off as an excellently planned and executed attack instead of a spontaneous event?
Why on Earth would he say something that shows his administration, which can barely disarm the other para military much less enforce peace, is weak and inept?
Christ. What the hell is up with you Pubbies and your inability to think with a modicum of depth?
Posted by: palooka at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (7JI1h)
Why does everyone get to use ace's time machine that he totally doesn't have but me? I totally deserve another 27 turns! That whole dinosaur thing wasn't my fault!
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD would let me use the time machine at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (VtjlW)
Guys not a dolt... and he may very well be reading the mood of the American Electorate better than pundits, press, or the Administration.
Don't, in your hubris, think thatEVERYONE else in the world is an idiot. Or that its not in the interest of many countries out there to follow America's internal politics.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2012 02:26 PM (lZBBB)
Please. Have you ever listened to Europeans talking about American politics? They don't even understaned our system. I doubt the Libyans have a clue. Putin thought that the American federal government controlled the presses (do you remember that episode?)
I think you overestimate what those outside of America understand about our government. No other nation has anything like it (save the Phillipines, though it is a perverted model). All they understand are party-oriented Euro-style parliamentary systems. Ours is totally different. And the internet doesn't seem to have any effect on that. Most foreigners don't know jack shit about how we operate, and that includes foreign government officials.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (X3lox)
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (r2PLg)
They're. All. The. Same. Mob.Posted by: soothsayer
Now I get it. Just like "War on Terror" became "Overseas Contingency Operations", apparently "al Qaeda" has been renamed as the "Mob."
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 26, 2012 02:31 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Steff McKee at September 26, 2012 02:31 PM (JEajI)
Wasn't Ann Curry let go for piss-poor ratings?
Posted by: EC at September 26, 2012 02:18 PM (GQ8sn)
well, that is what the press release said, however, I have it on good authority it was mostly her complaining about everyone using her mouth as a cumdumpster and not getting reimbursed for stains on her blouses.
Posted by: yankeefifth at September 26, 2012 02:31 PM (Z9EHQ)
Posted by: State Dept. at September 26, 2012 02:32 PM (XvHmy)
Posted by: Beagle at September 26, 2012 02:32 PM (sOtz/)
"Present" Obama was on vacation hiking the never ending campaign trail.
Posted by: maverick muse at September 26, 2012 02:33 PM (BAnPT)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever
Obama says. So why isn't he?"
My guess is that the Libyan people's attitude about these militias and AQ groups are driving the Libyan President's actions. Haven't we heard that the militias are being protested? It's about power, in this aspect.
That and money. If this President is not in control, to whom is the US going to give aid? It's in his financial interest to go with the rogue terrorist group angle over a generally unruly society, still in civil strife, without a clear leader.
That, and the ME culture has never been one to be known as a paragon of honesty. Islam explicitly encourages lying to the infidel.
However, aside from his comments, it appears that this is a terrorist attack, even if you want to call it a spontaneous protest gotten out of hand. And the lie that it was not planned, I think, has been thoroughly debunked at this point.
Posted by: Flounder at September 26, 2012 02:33 PM (Kkt/i)
massive power vacuum and multiple factions fighting for superiority
needs this encounter to come off as an excellently planned and executed
attack instead of a spontaneous event?
So he's telling the truth because it's politically good for him.
Thanks for that.
Also for admitting, however tacitly, that TFG is lying. Also a SCOAMT.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 26, 2012 02:33 PM (8y9MW)
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palooka--you know what blows that out of the water?
Sean Smith's last testimony.
Thank gawd he was percent enough to take his last minutes on earth to communicate what he saw.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:33 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Captain Hate (more dagny and less curious) at September 26, 2012 02:34 PM (iEAdC)
http://is.gd/65mGca
Note to self: avoid anyone returning from the Hajj. Which is good advice anyway.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 26, 2012 02:34 PM (/kI1Q)
Posted by: fluffy at September 26, 2012 02:34 PM (O6q63)
FDR: Dear Hitler, I know, right? The joooos suck.
Hitler: um yeah, totes...
FDR: So, um, can we get Paris back now?
Hitler: um....no.
FDR: But the jooos are particularly vile! We agree.
Hitler: Damn, yo. I was just saying that to rile up the peasants (and yeah, we're killing them all anyway) to justify my power. I still want to kill you and rule the world.
FDR: so, we agree, it's the joooos fault, I'll have my sec of state go out and say that.
Hitler: don't make no never mind to me. Still keeping Paris.
Apologies but I think that's what Al Qaeda and/or Iran think when they hear SCOAMF bitch about a stupid film.
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 02:35 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Obama the Magnificent at September 26, 2012 02:35 PM (YJvVE)
Posted by: Bulldog in Kansas at September 26, 2012 02:35 PM (z1C58)
Posted by: Matt Damon!!!!! at September 26, 2012 02:35 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 26, 2012 02:35 PM (GvYeG)
Thank gawd he was *precient* enough to take his last minutes on earth to communicate what he saw.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:35 PM (r2PLg)
The Libyans do have a motive to lie. If it was terrorism it was something that happened to them as opposed to something that they did.
One of the most offensive theories of Holocaust denial is that it wasn't Hitler who did it but rather it was Goering. (Goering is the highest official whose signature is clearly on a Holocaust document.) If Goering did it without Hitler's knowledge or approval then it was a crime against Nazism rather than a crime of the Nazis.
Posted by: WalrusRex at September 26, 2012 02:36 PM (Hx5uv)
She is using the kneepad media technique of speaking slowly and breathlessly to cue in the interviewee into what the correct answer IS.
BTW, I think the Middle East is ready to be rid of the Taupe Dope. It is better for the leaderships over there if no more Arab Spring incidents arise to take them out. A strong Israel and a strong US actually benefit the Middle East power structure because it allows them to shrug and say, "It is in the hands of Allah, peace be upon Him, that we face these times with the Great Satans. Let us be patient, my brothers, and pray without ceasing for better days."
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 26, 2012 02:36 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 02:36 PM (QxSug)
It wasn't pro American. Reuters stringers interviewed protesters and the responses ranged from prophet moohammad quotations to pro US/ambassador and a few angry comments regarding al-shytbbob salafists controlling the local hospital.
YMMV
Posted by: 13times at September 26, 2012 02:36 PM (h6XiD)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever
Obama says. So why isn't he?
Because he actually gives a shit? Don't laugh, it happens sometimes.
Posted by: schizoid at September 26, 2012 02:37 PM (rR8Bw)
Posted by: sherlock at September 26, 2012 02:30 PM (s0hlt)
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This is basically my take of the situation also.
Posted by: Soona at September 26, 2012 02:37 PM (57jOZ)
massive power vacuum and multiple factions fighting for superiority
needs this encounter to come off as an excellently planned and executed
attack instead of a spontaneous event?
That it also happens to be a fucking blatantly obvious truth is irrelevant if it contradicts Chicago Jesus, right? After all, we've always been at war with Eastasia.
How dare the Libyan President refuse to lie on Obama's behalf!
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 26, 2012 02:37 PM (SY2Kh)
http://is.gd/65mGca
Posted by: HeatherRadish™
Got my fingers crossed! Maybe a meteor or two on the side?
Posted by: Dang© at September 26, 2012 02:38 PM (R18D0)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 26, 2012 02:38 PM (DoZD+)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 26, 2012 02:38 PM (48wze)
You also have to explain why the State Department put up this travel advisory on August 27, 2012 for Libya:
Travel Warning
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Bureau of Consular Affairs
PrintEmail
Libya
August 27, 2012
The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Libya. The incidence of violent crime, especially carjacking and robbery, has become a serious problem. In addition, political violence in the form of assassinations and vehicle bombs has increased in both Benghazi and Tripoli. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated September 22, 2011, and notes the resumption of full consular services to U.S. citizens on August 27, 2012.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5762.html
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:38 PM (r2PLg)
thing in the world for the Libyan President to just agree with whatever
Obama says. So why isn't he?
Because he actually gives a shit? Don't laugh, it happens sometimes.**
Because even he realizes how stupid it is to blame things on a video and saying so would make him appear stupid and weak. dangerously stupid and weak.
Also, the "we rioted over some stupid video" meme doesn't lend itself to making you appear like a civilized adult society.
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 02:38 PM (QxSug)
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As if there's no connection between the press and federal propaganda.
Plenty of Americans have that same opinion of the MFM and hoards of presstitutes. Some like it that way (Democrats). But regardless, the majority of Americans don't trust the press. And Russians don't trust their government's "news" reporting to be anything beyond official propaganda, either.
Posted by: maverick muse at September 26, 2012 02:38 PM (BAnPT)
The Libyan guy is obviously distancing himself from AQ here, blaming the attack on them says, hey, its not Libya the country that is the problem, but we have these bad guys here and they did it. I inherited this problem from Gaddafi.
He might be for real on that - because a potential answer to that is well if you can't keep your internal security in order enough to keep AQ from killing Americans, maybe we need to step up our military presence there. Which could work out for him - a la Karzai - or could work against him.
But common sense says that this was a terrorist attack. You are right, mortars don't spontaneously appear - especially already sighted in. So common sense agrees with this guy. Why does Obama persist in the lie?
Posted by: Golan Globus at September 26, 2012 02:39 PM (/1U3u)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 26, 2012 02:39 PM (PHb2k)
Posted by: not the mama at September 26, 2012 02:39 PM (kzCIn)
Posted by: Will Never Vote For a dhimmocrat at September 26, 2012 02:39 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Steff McKee at September 26, 2012 02:40 PM (JEajI)
there were "command and control" aspects to the attack.
That's not spontaneous street protest M.O.
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:40 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:42 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: Mr. Dave in SPI at September 26, 2012 02:43 PM (OBDWE)
Posted by: tasker at September 26, 2012 02:43 PM (r2PLg)
Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 26, 2012 02:46 PM (l/N7H)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 26, 2012 02:46 PM (GvYeG)
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Back one step: Why did Obama choose the lie?
Because he could. Because he doesn't know how to face opposition without blaming it on somebody else, especially a lame opponent.
And all that Obama proves is the he himself is the weakest link. Lame brain.
Obama put all of his re-election foreign policy eggs in his "Arab Spring" promotion. And the terrorist chickens are roosting on his head.
Posted by: maverick muse at September 26, 2012 02:48 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: 13times at September 26, 2012 02:48 PM (h6XiD)
I can't wait until they whack the Islamists and become safe for tourism.
Posted by: Paul A'Barge at September 26, 2012 02:49 PM (7JpOx)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 26, 2012 02:50 PM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Steff McKee at September 26, 2012 02:51 PM (JEajI)
Posted by: Steff McKee at September 26, 2012 02:52 PM (JEajI)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 26, 2012 02:52 PM (oKH8p)
Posted by: biancaneve at September 26, 2012 02:53 PM (6bYlh)
Sure dodged a 100kt on that one.
Posted by: comatus at September 26, 2012 02:58 PM (qaVK+)
Posted by: @PurpAv at September 26, 2012 02:59 PM (Q+WQU)
Posted by: OCBill at September 26, 2012 03:00 PM (YJvVE)
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 26, 2012 03:00 PM (GvYeG)
HELL NO.
You want to 'up the military presence' at the embassy? Sure. "There"? Hell no.
Posted by: entropy at September 26, 2012 03:01 PM (TULs6)
Posted by: amirite at September 26, 2012 03:03 PM (1KEUk)
Posted by: Steff McKee at September 26, 2012 03:04 PM (JEajI)
Posted by: OCBill at September 26, 2012 03:04 PM (YJvVE)
Duh. The president said so. You think Obama doesn't know this attack was the direct result of a movie? The evidence is in. Outlaw blasphemy we much.
Posted by: amirite at September 26, 2012 03:05 PM (1KEUk)
"Or that its not in the interest of many countries out there to follow America's internal politics."
I've lived abroad, and even the man in the street follows America's internal politics surprisingly closely, certainly more closely than Americans follow their own (and, of course, cubic light years more than Americans follow the internal politics of other countries).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 26, 2012 03:07 PM (U+DUu)
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Obama enabled the usurpation of all Libya's accumulated Central Bank gold and wealth. It isn't as if Romney would have or will stand in the way of those globalist finance corporatist monopolists. But Obama thought he could get away with "reforming" Libya at Libya's expense, having destroyed the entirely self sufficient infrastructure that had been coordinated via Gaddafi who refused our military stationed access to Libya's ports. There isn't a single sect or tribe in Libya that wants to be dominated by foreigners, ESPECIALLY Westerners, Americans in particular.
As stated, the current Libyan President is a survivor and well skilled diplomat. He just proved nuance and artistry (qualities that Obama presumed incorrectly to display) having both denounced terrorism and Obama's foolish lie while simultaneously announcing the strongest of alliance between Libya and the USA. So much for Obama being "articulate".
The only way that Libya would "want" Romney to beat Obama would be if Libya wants Netanyahu's zionist version of Israel to dominate the region. That ain't the case in any Muslim nation. Rather, they probably look at Obama as the "devil they know" -- same rationale that should have prevailed to prevent US engagements via Obama that promoted the violent Arab Spring upheaval of the Middle East. Now we have the genocide of the region's minority populations resulting from our national policy, "excused with the best of intentions" in the mob sense of spreading democracy.
Posters neglect to consider that before the destruction of Gaddafi's Libya, every Libyan -- by over 50 years of the national socialist policy that spent oil profits on building and maintaining civilized and modern infrastructure -- had provided free education including universities, jobs, public housing and food, free medical attention at free hospitals. It was working for them. And Gaddafi had sponsored Obama's 2008 foreign funding from the Middle East as a bundler. Obama should not have had Hillary mock Libya: "We came, we saw, we killed, bwahahahaha!" What Obama proves is that Obama is the most untrustworthy of politicians. And the intelligent, sophisticated professionals in Libya know better now than to expect anything more than a knife in the back from Obama, to not play the dupe for Obama, especially when Obama's lie has absolutely no credibility except to idiots.
But to say that Libyans would expect 'better' from Romney has no grounds. Romney, as Netanyahu's puppet, is not going to be popular with Muslims.
Posted by: maverick muse at September 26, 2012 03:16 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 03:20 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: joeindc44 will vote Obama based on a D+20 internal poll at September 26, 2012 03:20 PM (QxSug)
At 1:27 in the clip, the Libyan president says he's not yet ready to divulge the details of their investigation - "minute details". NBC helpfully adds the subtitle "my new details".
Posted by: bgates at September 26, 2012 03:21 PM (bVnuh)
Convoluted interest. Precedence for the Batman movie screening murdered victims to sue the Hollywood producers.
Talk about deep pockets.
Posted by: maverick muse at September 26, 2012 03:22 PM (BAnPT)
Posted by: nor luap at September 26, 2012 03:30 PM (BHM5V)
Posted by: Ed Gibbon at September 26, 2012 03:37 PM (4eNxd)
Posted by: Sam Adams at September 26, 2012 03:45 PM (Y6YCz)
Posted by: Boomer Redneque at September 26, 2012 03:54 PM (pLmrQ)
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Al Qaeda had nothing to do with the embassy attack.
They're. All. The. Same. Mob.
Call them rebels. Call them terrorists. Whatever. Same mob, different target.
Of course, the Libyan president is blaming Al Qaeda. He's not gonna admit that
the people responsible are his "rebels" who we armed and funded.
Posted by: soothsayer
PerhapsAl Qaeda learned the ACORN trick of changing your
name. Maybe it was ACORN.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 26, 2012 04:00 PM (VLifP)
What the fuck was this- an exercize in how many ways to ask the same question?
Posted by: Exile at September 26, 2012 04:01 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: steevy at September 26, 2012 04:03 PM (6o4Fb)
Posted by: bobbymike at September 26, 2012 04:10 PM (wJSZn)
Posted by: papertiger at September 26, 2012 04:15 PM (+78NX)
1. blinkered. Narrow-minded, limited perspective. Blinkered people believe that George Bush Jr. is a good person Barack Obama is an American.
Got that definition from the Urban Dictionary, so it needed adjusting.
Posted by: papertiger at September 26, 2012 04:20 PM (+78NX)
He is applying pressure against the guy who left him out to dry, sort of like what Bams did to his party in 2010.
It's survival of the fittest.
Posted by: PJ at September 26, 2012 04:44 PM (DQHjw)
Posted by: alwyr at September 26, 2012 04:53 PM (Oh5R1)
Posted by: Chipperoo at September 26, 2012 04:58 PM (6c62F)
Posted by: scr_north at September 26, 2012 05:05 PM (nWVv8)
Seriously. This woman is just another parrot. What IS disgusting is how much she makes for so little.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at September 26, 2012 05:34 PM (EhYdw)
Of course we all know the correct answer and have done for nearly four years.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at September 26, 2012 05:44 PM (EhYdw)
I think you mean Anne Compton...short of breath, and hurried delivery sounding like glee whenever she talks about Obama or the Dems.
Posted by: Steff McKee at September 26, 2012 06:10 PM (JEajI)
They'll just look at you with that dead Ann Curry stare and ask, "But what evidence do you got?"
Posted by: papertiger at September 26, 2012 06:46 PM (+78NX)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl who still loves me some Rick Perry! at September 26, 2012 07:43 PM (KL49F)
Posted by: hadsil at September 26, 2012 08:17 PM (oqORR)
Posted by: Rob in Katy at September 27, 2012 12:23 AM (PiTBB)
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