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Some Perspective On Civilization From Victor Davis Hanson
By way of today's Transom, there's a very good, if somewhat long, Hoover Institution interview with Victor Davis Hanson that's well worth your time.
The decline in civility—in the idea of being a good citizen—has taken a particularly tough toll on men, who have not adjusted to today’s post-industrial economy as fluidly as women have. “As society has been cut off from the drudgery of nature and the tragic view of things, it has become whiney. This is probably sexist, but it’s had a more direct effect on the males of the species who have had their muscular world radically redefined.” “All the young men I knew growing up knew how to do these things. But the young kids I see today don’t know how to run a lawn mower or a chain saw. Today’s male lives at home. He kinda’ sorta’ dates a girl, kinda’ sorta’ doesn’t date her. He is becoming superfluous as a bread-winner and family head." In the ancient world, farming and war instilled a sense of duty and responsibility in men. Today? “Men don’t know much about farming, and few are in the military, but most know a great deal about video games,” says Hanson. Hanson comes back to the virtue of self-reliance and the toll its absence is taking on society: “Today’s suburban American has a therapeutic view of the world. We think we all die in our sleep at 90 years old without ever being sick. We don’t expect to lose our jobs. When these things happen, we go to counseling, thinking life’s not fair. Or we look to the government for help.” “The society’s attitude toward the citizen—that we will guarantee you a degree of material and psychological security—is something that we can’t honor.” He adds: “I think that we are emasculating the citizen.”There's a lot of carping about the Romney campaign going around on the Interwebs this morning, but I fear there's a more substantive reason than the deep details of how his convention speech was prepared that explains why he doesn't have a double-digit lead over TFG. People like free stuff. Mean guy Romney wants to take it away and put our civilization back on a paying basis. A significant amount of the SCOAMF's support is just this simple to explain. This election isn't a battle between the haves and have-nots, as the Democrats want to paint it. It's a battle between the responsible and the irresponsible; the realistic and the unrealistic; the self-reliant and the dependent. Frankly, it's a battle between an adult's view of the world and a child's. And the adults are precariously close to losing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMSHvgaUWc8
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 10:53 AM (/kI1Q)
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"It's a battle between the responsible and the irresponsible; the realistic and the unrealistic; the self-reliant and the dependent."
Now that's downright Randian.
Now that's downright Randian.
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 17, 2012 10:53 AM (J7sV0)
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Grasshoppers versus Ants.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at September 17, 2012 10:54 AM (Hj9yW)
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It's the battle of the crickets and the ants.
And the top tier ants have all been suborned by free government cheese.
And the top tier ants have all been suborned by free government cheese.
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 10:54 AM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 10:54 AM (MzQOZ)
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We. Are. Boned.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 17, 2012 10:55 AM (GFM2b)
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Spot on. Those that take responsibility and those that don't a friggin have a clue how or much less care
Posted by: Maximus at September 17, 2012 10:55 AM (Z45W7)
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Boys are no longer encouraged to become men and, because of divorce and single mother parenting, they have no examples of how to be men.
Posted by: huerfano at September 17, 2012 10:55 AM (bAGA/)
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>>>Frankly, it's a battle between an adult's view of the world and a child's. And the adults are precariously close to losing.
Look, Obama's bleeding out white and independent voters and you think it's going to be close? No it's not going to be close. Obama will have a dramatic loss. Stop listening to people who think turnout will be similar to 2008. IT WON'T
Look, Obama's bleeding out white and independent voters and you think it's going to be close? No it's not going to be close. Obama will have a dramatic loss. Stop listening to people who think turnout will be similar to 2008. IT WON'T
Posted by: Max Power at September 17, 2012 10:56 AM (+wxCD)
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Christ the Politico article is garbage. Folks like free stuff, western civ peaked about 1912.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 10:57 AM (LRFds)
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good will prevail....it has to...and if it doesn't you better have stocked up on food, weapons & ammo.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 17, 2012 10:57 AM (Ho2rs)
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Look, Obama's bleeding out white and independent voters and you think it's going to be close? No it's not going to be close. Obama will have a dramatic loss. Stop listening to people who think turnout will be similar to 2008. IT WON'T
Posted by: Max Power at September 17, 2012 10:56 AM (+wxCD)
In my heart that is what I believe, I hope we are both right
Posted by: Max Power at September 17, 2012 10:56 AM (+wxCD)
In my heart that is what I believe, I hope we are both right
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 10:57 AM (j1gX1)
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It's worth noting that "top schools" have stopped marching along the path of Western Civilization for history and English.
My daughters have both spent extensive time with India, China, Persia and Egypt. But they haven't had to read Aesop's Fables, or been required to understand the difference between Athens and Sparta.
My daughters have both spent extensive time with India, China, Persia and Egypt. But they haven't had to read Aesop's Fables, or been required to understand the difference between Athens and Sparta.
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 10:58 AM (MzQOZ)
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Remember the episode of "Lost In Space" where the kids ruled the space station?
America, 2012.
Gevalt.
America, 2012.
Gevalt.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 10:58 AM (+tqYo)
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The story of the grasshopper and ant has been around a long time so this is not just a recent phenomonen. I think this trend is more limited to the urban areas as small town southern boys still know how to hunt and fix their four wheelers and when not hunting like to tinker with their trucks by seeing if they can fix them to travel through 3 feet of mud and 3 feet of water. As fast as possible.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 10:59 AM (m2CN7)
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Make that "at -school-"
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 10:59 AM (MzQOZ)
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I've been enjoying The insta fact check over a Big Journalism.
The latest: Nolte bitchslaps Frum
Link in sig.
The latest: Nolte bitchslaps Frum
Link in sig.
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 17, 2012 11:00 AM (J7sV0)
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Now that's downright Randian.
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 17, 2012 10:53 AM (J7sV0)
Yeah, baby!
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 17, 2012 10:53 AM (J7sV0)
Yeah, baby!
Posted by: Austin Powers at September 17, 2012 11:00 AM (v+QvA)
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Pennsylvania is lost:
Poll: Obama widens lead in Pa.
President Obama, already ahead in Pennsylvania, received a small bump from the Democratic National Convention and now leads Mitt Romney in the state by 11 points, according to the Inquirer Pennsylvania Poll.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/8hs6a2z
Pennsylvania is lost:
Poll: Obama widens lead in Pa.
President Obama, already ahead in Pennsylvania, received a small bump from the Democratic National Convention and now leads Mitt Romney in the state by 11 points, according to the Inquirer Pennsylvania Poll.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/8hs6a2z
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (tOkJB)
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Stein's Law: "What can't go on forever, won't."
Posted by: The Chap with the App at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (fscec)
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John Nolte's been on fire lately.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)
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I believe that the generation that won World War II, that made the US the world's undisputed superpower, and that created the prosperity that made us all comfortable and safe, spoiled the generations that have followed. We have become accustomed to the The Easy Life. And now we vote for politicians that promise us more of that ease and comfort.
The Baby Boomers are just that- a bunch of babies. We bang on our high chairs until the nice politician sticks a pacifier in our mouths. So we vote for them over and over.
Our politicians have mastered the art of coddling us and bribing us with our own money. Bread and circuses.
The Baby Boomers are just that- a bunch of babies. We bang on our high chairs until the nice politician sticks a pacifier in our mouths. So we vote for them over and over.
Our politicians have mastered the art of coddling us and bribing us with our own money. Bread and circuses.
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (8sCoq)
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On the moon, we don't have these problems.
Posted by: Manny at September 17, 2012 11:02 AM (bwV72)
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It is a very good read, especially as I'm visiting the family farm and considering returning to it.
Posted by: t-bird at September 17, 2012 11:02 AM (b1g/X)
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I have some elderly relatives/longtime democrats ready to vote for team Mitt, in fact they are ready to vote straight ticket republican (which is no longer available in our state but whatever).
But they are getting depressed by all the polls out there that show such a huge advantage for Barky TFG. Being fairly shut in, they watch a lot of TV, and I'm spending too much time keeping their spirits up in the face of the lies and damn lies regarding polls, but it's a small price to pay to get those votes.
I will also be taking them to the polls if that's what it takes to get them there.
But they are getting depressed by all the polls out there that show such a huge advantage for Barky TFG. Being fairly shut in, they watch a lot of TV, and I'm spending too much time keeping their spirits up in the face of the lies and damn lies regarding polls, but it's a small price to pay to get those votes.
I will also be taking them to the polls if that's what it takes to get them there.
Posted by: Boots at September 17, 2012 11:03 AM (neKzn)
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The 19th Amendment lost us this battle. Sorry, moronettes, but it's true.
As soon as a little more than half the electorate is female, the country will turn female.
As soon as a little more than half the electorate is female, the country will turn female.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (I2LwF)
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One poster above hit it on the head. If you don't have a father to teach you manly things you won't know what manly things you're supposed to know. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (m2CN7)
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“All the young men I knew growing up knew how to do these things. But
the young kids I see today don’t know how to run a lawn mower or a chain
saw. Today’s male lives at home. He kinda’ sorta’ dates a girl, kinda’
sorta’ doesn’t date her. He is becoming superfluous as a bread-winner
and family head."
In the ancient world, farming and war instilled a sense of duty and
responsibility in men. Today? “Men don’t know much about farming, and
few are in the military, but most know a great deal about video games,”
says Hanson.
I have feet in both worlds. Not a good feeling.
Feel free to mock my phrasing.
the young kids I see today don’t know how to run a lawn mower or a chain
saw. Today’s male lives at home. He kinda’ sorta’ dates a girl, kinda’
sorta’ doesn’t date her. He is becoming superfluous as a bread-winner
and family head."
In the ancient world, farming and war instilled a sense of duty and
responsibility in men. Today? “Men don’t know much about farming, and
few are in the military, but most know a great deal about video games,”
says Hanson.
I have feet in both worlds. Not a good feeling.
Feel free to mock my phrasing.
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (z9HTb)
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The Inquirer? Democrat oversampled. I've been calling PA for "Americans For Prosperity". It's an outreach to swing voters. At least 1/2 of the people I got through to said they were NOT voting for Obama this year and that he has hurt the economy. Some said they voted for him in 2008 and won't be doing it this year. It's still a swing state.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (D9IU8)
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No dodgeball.
No playing Army.
Wear a helmet when you ride a bike.
No standing up to bullies.
Awwww your soccer team finished last??? Here's a trophy.
And PlayStation has whats left of your balls.
No dodgeball.
No playing Army.
Wear a helmet when you ride a bike.
No standing up to bullies.
Awwww your soccer team finished last??? Here's a trophy.
And PlayStation has whats left of your balls.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (C8hzL)
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>But they are getting depressed by all the polls out there that show such a huge advantage for Barky TFG
please explain to the folks how many polls are weighted to produce the desired result: to discourage The Other Side
please explain to the folks how many polls are weighted to produce the desired result: to discourage The Other Side
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (8sCoq)
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14 Remember the episode of "Lost In Space" where the kids ruled the space station? America, 2012. Gevalt.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 10:58 AM
The one when Dr.Smith got his groove on. He was a real hep cat, daddio.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 10:58 AM
The one when Dr.Smith got his groove on. He was a real hep cat, daddio.
Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (yBF/9)
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26 As soon as a little more than half the electorate is female, the country will turn female
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Is that kinda like those amphibians that change genders based on ambient temperature?
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Is that kinda like those amphibians that change genders based on ambient temperature?
Posted by: Boots at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (neKzn)
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Could you please stop the slurs on women?. You suggest they shouldn't have the vote? That's crap.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (D9IU8)
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One poster above hit it on the head. If you don't have a father to teach you manly things you won't know what manly things you're supposed to know. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (m2CN7)
Add to this the fact that manly virtues are ridiculed, denigrated and devalued in our culture, and you wind up with an emasculated society.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (m2CN7)
Add to this the fact that manly virtues are ridiculed, denigrated and devalued in our culture, and you wind up with an emasculated society.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (v+QvA)
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Boy, math is hard. Read datechguyblog.com today. Observe reality.
Which candidate is frantically scrambling to cover up obvious negative events? Which candidate is caught out in obvious falsehoods about said negative events? Why is the media so desperate to sow discord and create dissension in the other candidate's support ranks?
Come on, the answers are not hard.
Which campaign is calm and methodical and which campaign is frantic and desperate to change the subject. Which campaign draws attendance at events and which doesn't? Which campaign is visibly fundraising and which is doing it behind closed doors, without obvious fanfare?
Open your eyes, naysayers. Or more accurately, those naysayers that aren't intentionally sowing discord to help their guy. False flags everywhere.
Obama is losing. Watch what they do, not what they say. Avoid falling for the misdirection. This is only going to get uglier. Count on it. We must only work harder, donate more, and steel our spines even firmer to persevere.
Eyes on the prize. Be not afraid.
Which candidate is frantically scrambling to cover up obvious negative events? Which candidate is caught out in obvious falsehoods about said negative events? Why is the media so desperate to sow discord and create dissension in the other candidate's support ranks?
Come on, the answers are not hard.
Which campaign is calm and methodical and which campaign is frantic and desperate to change the subject. Which campaign draws attendance at events and which doesn't? Which campaign is visibly fundraising and which is doing it behind closed doors, without obvious fanfare?
Open your eyes, naysayers. Or more accurately, those naysayers that aren't intentionally sowing discord to help their guy. False flags everywhere.
Obama is losing. Watch what they do, not what they say. Avoid falling for the misdirection. This is only going to get uglier. Count on it. We must only work harder, donate more, and steel our spines even firmer to persevere.
Eyes on the prize. Be not afraid.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2012 11:06 AM (dcoFe)
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On the moon, we don't have these problems.
Posted by: Manny at September 17, 2012 11:02 AM (bwV72)
Do you allow dogs and do you have room for one more?
On the moon, we don't have these problems.
Posted by: Manny at September 17, 2012 11:02 AM (bwV72)
Do you allow dogs and do you have room for one more?
Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 11:06 AM (/YJYi)
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Ed, don't bring a Philadelphia newspaper poll around here
Posted by: Jean at September 17, 2012 11:07 AM (tmzN0)
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I think this trend is more limited to the urban areas as small town
southern boys still know how to hunt and fix their four wheelers and
when not hunting like to tinker with their trucks
How are the demographics? How many of those small town kids are there and how many live in suburban Atlanta, Nashville and Dallas?
southern boys still know how to hunt and fix their four wheelers and
when not hunting like to tinker with their trucks
How are the demographics? How many of those small town kids are there and how many live in suburban Atlanta, Nashville and Dallas?
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 11:07 AM (z9HTb)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:07 AM (/kI1Q)
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Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (8sCoq)
I would disagree. The Greatest Generation did not spoil their children. The children were ungrateful brats poisoned by the false g-ds of utopianism and socialism. They in turn became teachers, professors, "journalists" and entertainment people.
I would disagree. The Greatest Generation did not spoil their children. The children were ungrateful brats poisoned by the false g-ds of utopianism and socialism. They in turn became teachers, professors, "journalists" and entertainment people.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:07 AM (+tqYo)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:08 AM (LRFds)
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I missed Mass yesterday and am watching MSDNC as a self-imposed penance.
I will not miss Mass next week.
I missed Mass yesterday and am watching MSDNC as a self-imposed penance.
I will not miss Mass next week.
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at September 17, 2012 11:08 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2012 11:08 AM (D9IU8)
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32 Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (yBF/9)
Exactly!!! And they all kept growing younger and younger. Weird.
Exactly!!! And they all kept growing younger and younger. Weird.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:08 AM (+tqYo)
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Future Shock. We saw this coming in the 60's.
Posted by: Randy at September 17, 2012 11:09 AM (EuW9O)
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>The 19th Amendment lost us this battle. Sorry, moronettes, but it's true.
don't go there, man. Female voters aren't the problem. STUPID voters are. And they come in both genders.
don't go there, man. Female voters aren't the problem. STUPID voters are. And they come in both genders.
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 11:09 AM (8sCoq)
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The Takers scored a touchdown with Bush and Bambi and they're at the goal line again. And because of the traitor Olympia Snowe and the coward John Roberts, this is probably the Makers last stand.
Although it would have seemed almost equally futile, our nation could have withstood a lot more abuse without BambiCare. With it, America as we all know it is doomed.
Although it would have seemed almost equally futile, our nation could have withstood a lot more abuse without BambiCare. With it, America as we all know it is doomed.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:09 AM (2dn/j)
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Civilization?
Do you mean the muz brohood's goal of global caliphate?
I'm not seeing much resistance here.
Civilization?
Do you mean the muz brohood's goal of global caliphate?
I'm not seeing much resistance here.
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at September 17, 2012 11:10 AM (Sptt8)
Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 17, 2012 11:10 AM (CGjum)
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40 Heather Radish,
One could argue the combination of the 19th and societal decline may have lost the battle. Julia ain't the majority but she is the majority of the single mom crowd. Wish it weren't so.
Perhaps if the taking of federal aid was tied in to the loss of voting in national elections?
One could argue the combination of the 19th and societal decline may have lost the battle. Julia ain't the majority but she is the majority of the single mom crowd. Wish it weren't so.
Perhaps if the taking of federal aid was tied in to the loss of voting in national elections?
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:10 AM (LRFds)
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I'm not going to spend too much energy defending my disgust with the 19th.
While many women are smart, and Heather Radish is on the top of my list of smart women, no woman has ever been /required/ by her society to reason, nor be fully responsible for the consequences of bad acts- not to the extent a man has been.
As it turns out, now nobody's responsible for anything, but the reason this is true is at least tosome extent due to the feminization of the government.
While many women are smart, and Heather Radish is on the top of my list of smart women, no woman has ever been /required/ by her society to reason, nor be fully responsible for the consequences of bad acts- not to the extent a man has been.
As it turns out, now nobody's responsible for anything, but the reason this is true is at least tosome extent due to the feminization of the government.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:10 AM (I2LwF)
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Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (tOkJB)
A Philly poll? Ed, do you sit around all day punching yourself in the balls?
A Philly poll? Ed, do you sit around all day punching yourself in the balls?
Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM (6IReR)
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If you don't have a father to teach you manly things you won't know what manly things you're supposed to know.
But they've got the school systems to teach them! Oh, never mind.
One aspect of the feminization of education is that if you act rowdy- you know, as boys are wont to do-, you get mediated or put in special education.
But they've got the school systems to teach them! Oh, never mind.
One aspect of the feminization of education is that if you act rowdy- you know, as boys are wont to do-, you get mediated or put in special education.
Posted by: t-bird at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM (b1g/X)
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Ed Anger is a dumb troll that got tired of trolling HA because he was finally being ignored.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM (2dn/j)
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Could you please stop the slurs on women?. You suggest they shouldn't have the vote? That's crap.
You'll notice they don't have the balls to suggest blacks shouldn't be allowed to vote, even though they vote for statism at far, far greater percentages than white women.
Evaluating people by their genitals instead of their words and deeds. It's not just for progglodytes anymore.
You'll notice they don't have the balls to suggest blacks shouldn't be allowed to vote, even though they vote for statism at far, far greater percentages than white women.
Evaluating people by their genitals instead of their words and deeds. It's not just for progglodytes anymore.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM (/kI1Q)
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Do you allow dogs and do you have room for one more?
Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 11:06 AM (/YJYi
Only if you bring two women.
Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 11:06 AM (/YJYi
Only if you bring two women.
Posted by: Manny at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (bwV72)
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And if you continue to disagree, it is because you are uninformed or afraid to speak up against PC bullshit. Women vote Democrat 10% than men do. That's all the proof I need that women, taken as a whole, are less-informed and less-responsible voters than men, taken as a whole, are.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (I2LwF)
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How are the demographics? How many of those small town kids are there and how many live in suburban Atlanta, Nashville and Dallas?
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 11:07 AM (z9HTb)
fluffy I live in Houston and I can't speak for the ethnic population but Houston has more than its share of monster trucks and gun shows. We also have one of the largest Rodeo's in the world. We have our metrosexuals also but even some of them can't avoid being 'manly' every so often.
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 11:07 AM (z9HTb)
fluffy I live in Houston and I can't speak for the ethnic population but Houston has more than its share of monster trucks and gun shows. We also have one of the largest Rodeo's in the world. We have our metrosexuals also but even some of them can't avoid being 'manly' every so often.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (m2CN7)
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The taker/democrat class have a real problem: The productive responsible class are tired and going broke.
The taker/democrat class have a real problem: The productive responsible class are tired and going broke.
Posted by: Fresh at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (O7ksG)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (kdS6q)
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Or, to look at it another way, a war between the makers and the takers, and the takers are becoming more numerous than the makers -- something no civilization can survive.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at September 17, 2012 11:13 AM (RD7QR)
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Exactly right Andy. Civilized working grownups vs. ignorant lazy immature.
-On the whole farming and war vs. occupying Mom's basement at 32, not to worry. If QE Infinity and apologizing to muslim terrorists keeps up beyond Jan of 2013, the natural way of things will soon correct itself.
-On the whole farming and war vs. occupying Mom's basement at 32, not to worry. If QE Infinity and apologizing to muslim terrorists keeps up beyond Jan of 2013, the natural way of things will soon correct itself.
Posted by: Infidelswine at September 17, 2012 11:13 AM (s2/Mk)
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Coming up after the break on MSDNC:
Boy scouts sex abuse cover up
Occupy anniversary a carnival atmosphere
Foreign policy coverage- meme cont.
Coming up after the break on MSDNC:
Boy scouts sex abuse cover up
Occupy anniversary a carnival atmosphere
Foreign policy coverage- meme cont.
Posted by: Justamom in Achin' Akin's district at September 17, 2012 11:13 AM (Sptt8)
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And no, I don't have the balls to suggest that black people shouldn't vote for Democrats!~
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (I2LwF)
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They're locked up in my PlayStation.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (I2LwF)
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Today is Constitution Day. The local DAR is holding a bell-ringing ceremony with refreshments. They may have an event in your town too.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (FUull)
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Victor Davis Hanson is a racist and a sexist who idealizes a past filled with war and hatred. His history books sell to violent right-wing conservatives and fuel their desires to turn back the tide of human progress to some dark and barbaric time that never existed. If Hanson had his way, you people would be sacrificing brown people on altars to pagan gods, and paying each other in the gold coins that Ron Paul's nutty followers worship. Clearly, Hanson is a thought criminal and his books need to be banned.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (jCQ+I)
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Oh, and I don't believe for one fucking minute that "Pennsylvania is lost", or any other swing state for that matter.
And the people who spread that crap are full of what they're spreading.
So take your pessimism and shove it. We're going to win this thing.
And the people who spread that crap are full of what they're spreading.
So take your pessimism and shove it. We're going to win this thing.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (wtvvX)
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I think the Romney camp or a Superpac needs to do a short ad on the oversampling of Dems in polls.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (D9IU8)
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62 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (kdS6q)
Gorgo the Friendly Angel!!!
a.k.a. TFG
Gorgo the Friendly Angel!!!
a.k.a. TFG
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:14 AM (+tqYo)
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Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (kdS6q)
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one of my favorite episodes.....
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one of my favorite episodes.....
Posted by: fixerupper at September 17, 2012 11:15 AM (C8hzL)
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Could you please stop the slurs on women?. You suggest they shouldn't have the vote? That's crap.
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Yes, it is. But that doesn't stop certain posters from asserting it whenever possible. Gotta have a scapegoat.
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Yes, it is. But that doesn't stop certain posters from asserting it whenever possible. Gotta have a scapegoat.
Posted by: Tired Wench at September 17, 2012 11:15 AM (oPceJ)
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http://youtu.be/sqYubZk_Vks
I truly believe that the day I’m inaugurated, not
only does the country look at itself differently, but the world looks at
America differently. If I’m reaching out to the Muslim world, they
understand that I’ve lived in a Muslim country, and I may be a
Christian, but I also understand their point of view…
My sister is half-Indonesian. I traveled there all the way
through my college years. And so I’m intimately concerned with what
happens in these countries, and the cultures and the perspectives that
these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to
reach out to the world.
I truly believe that the day I’m inaugurated, not
only does the country look at itself differently, but the world looks at
America differently. If I’m reaching out to the Muslim world, they
understand that I’ve lived in a Muslim country, and I may be a
Christian, but I also understand their point of view…
My sister is half-Indonesian. I traveled there all the way
through my college years. And so I’m intimately concerned with what
happens in these countries, and the cultures and the perspectives that
these folks have. And those are powerful tools for us to be able to
reach out to the world.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:15 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 17, 2012 11:15 AM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Nick Noltibson at September 17, 2012 11:15 AM (z1Zdt)
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Ever heard of "Duck Dynasty"?
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 17, 2012 11:16 AM (SUKHu)
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according to the Inquirer Pennsylvania Poll.
The Inquirer. Please. Their front page today only has a small mention of Syria. 'Should we step in? Our support for democracy in the ME (Iran is not mentioned) is no guarantee against turmoil.'
The Inquirer. Please. Their front page today only has a small mention of Syria. 'Should we step in? Our support for democracy in the ME (Iran is not mentioned) is no guarantee against turmoil.'
Posted by: t-bird at September 17, 2012 11:16 AM (b1g/X)
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Okay, not going to do this flame war thing. Well played, everyone.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:17 AM (I2LwF)
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no woman has ever been /required/ by her society to reason, nor be
fully responsible for the consequences of bad acts- not to the extent a
man has been.
Sweet Bast's filthy litter box, Tru, that is the stupidest thing I've ever read here that didn't come from Palin Steele.
Go Google Mary Surrat, or Ethel Rosenberg, or Aileen Wuornos and tell me how they got off light 'cause they had a vaj.
fully responsible for the consequences of bad acts- not to the extent a
man has been.
Sweet Bast's filthy litter box, Tru, that is the stupidest thing I've ever read here that didn't come from Palin Steele.
Go Google Mary Surrat, or Ethel Rosenberg, or Aileen Wuornos and tell me how they got off light 'cause they had a vaj.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:17 AM (/kI1Q)
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Evaluating people by their genitals instead of their words and deeds. It's not just for progglodytes anymore.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM
Damn straight.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM
Damn straight.
Posted by: back door barry soetoro at September 17, 2012 11:17 AM (yBF/9)
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PeopleLiberals like free stuff
PeopleConservatives like free stuff
People"Independents" like free stuff
PeopleOld farts like free stuff
PeopleYoung fools like free stuff
PeopleOWS clowns like free stuff
PeopleTea Partiers like free stuff
PeopleEverybody likes free stuff
And that's the problem. As long as everybody is OK with forcibly extracting money from group 'A' and giving it to group 'B', it doesn't matter who we elect, the result will be the same, i.e. MOAR SPENDING!
And that's the problem. As long as everybody is OK with forcibly extracting money from group 'A' and giving it to group 'B', it doesn't matter who we elect, the result will be the same, i.e. MOAR SPENDING!
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 17, 2012 11:18 AM (yx6fZ)
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Their front page today only has a small mention of Syria. 'Should we step in? Our support for democracy in the ME (Iran is not mentioned) is no guarantee against turmoil.'
Posted by: t-bird at September 17, 2012 11:16 AM (b1g/X)
Syria is yesterday's news.
Posted by: t-bird at September 17, 2012 11:16 AM (b1g/X)
Syria is yesterday's news.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:18 AM (j1gX1)
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Hear about the blonde registering to vote for the first timeask what the was the 1-800 number and how many times she was allowed to vote?
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:18 AM (m2CN7)
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I seem to recall a similar period in my life that was a wide swath of malaise and "fuck it, I don't care anymore" mentality. The world was too big, too complex, and the citizens were on the slippery slope to accepting totalitarianism, because it would be much easier.
It was September 1980 as I recall.
It was September 1980 as I recall.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 17, 2012 11:19 AM (PG7KH)
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The children have gotten a hold of Mommy and Daddy's credit cards and maxed them out. Hopefully, come November, they'll get an ass-whooping.
Posted by: Roy at September 17, 2012 11:19 AM (VndSC)
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Makers and takers..
Our country is almost 1/2 takers, taking their handouts from the other half who are working their asses off.
Obama's goal is to nudge the takers in a majority.. a solid majority if he can, thus guaranteeing his party power for many election cycles, or until the money runs out - whichever comes first. (and by "money runs out", I mean before the world stops buying our worthless paper that we are using to pay for all this shit.)
Our country is almost 1/2 takers, taking their handouts from the other half who are working their asses off.
Obama's goal is to nudge the takers in a majority.. a solid majority if he can, thus guaranteeing his party power for many election cycles, or until the money runs out - whichever comes first. (and by "money runs out", I mean before the world stops buying our worthless paper that we are using to pay for all this shit.)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (f9c2L)
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The man to be elected after ratification of the 19th amendment was (drum roll please):
Warren G. Harding.
Case closed.
Harding was considered to be at the time a handsome man.
Warren G. Harding.
Case closed.
Harding was considered to be at the time a handsome man.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (he2LC)
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@44 Thanks but I'm just posting what seems obvious to me. I remember McCain losing badly in September and October and feeling a desire to hope for reality to change. If Romney were really losing I'm confident I'd feel the same way. I don't.
I'm not hoping for miracles because they are unnecessary. Romney isn't losing.
It is possible that I'm completely wrong and the polling firm I work for isn't getting the numbers we are getting, but I doubt it. You always want to be self-critical and not delude yourself. I see what the campaigns are dong and where they are spending their money and what priorities they have.
We all can do the math on where this campaign is if we only open our eyes.
Romney is a methodical, numbers and results-driven guy. He's spent 6+ years and hundreds of millions of dollars to formulate a plan to win this thing.
I'm confident that they have game-planned an almost-incomprehensible number of scenarios for the last 50 days. Columnists, TV news, and bloggers have to fill content every day or readers and ad dollars leave. This leads to some of the most counter-factual and stupid crap being written and called "analysis." Grain of salt is an understatement of how you need to regard most of it.
Be not afraid.
I'm not hoping for miracles because they are unnecessary. Romney isn't losing.
It is possible that I'm completely wrong and the polling firm I work for isn't getting the numbers we are getting, but I doubt it. You always want to be self-critical and not delude yourself. I see what the campaigns are dong and where they are spending their money and what priorities they have.
We all can do the math on where this campaign is if we only open our eyes.
Romney is a methodical, numbers and results-driven guy. He's spent 6+ years and hundreds of millions of dollars to formulate a plan to win this thing.
I'm confident that they have game-planned an almost-incomprehensible number of scenarios for the last 50 days. Columnists, TV news, and bloggers have to fill content every day or readers and ad dollars leave. This leads to some of the most counter-factual and stupid crap being written and called "analysis." Grain of salt is an understatement of how you need to regard most of it.
Be not afraid.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (dcoFe)
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I saw that PA poll last Friday. The Stinquirer also has Zero up in NJ by 14. I couldn't find the partisan splits anywhere.
I was on the "Finally, this is the year for PA!!" bandwagon. I still think Romney can pull it out depending on the voter ID ruling by the PA Supremes. But I got a bad vibe from the hearing last week.
There isn't nearly as muchenthusiasm for Zero in the city as in 2008, but I can't get a gauge on what, if any, support Romney has. Those of us who are going to vote for him don't dare put bumper stickers or window signs up (most of us in the city don't have front yards). I haven't been out to the 'burbs in awhile so I don't know how it looks out there. I hardly watch network TV so I don't see any commercials by either side. I'm still getting fundraising phone calls (on my cell, no less) from the Romney people, if that means anything.
One man's observation here in the formerly great City of Brotherly Love.
I was on the "Finally, this is the year for PA!!" bandwagon. I still think Romney can pull it out depending on the voter ID ruling by the PA Supremes. But I got a bad vibe from the hearing last week.
There isn't nearly as muchenthusiasm for Zero in the city as in 2008, but I can't get a gauge on what, if any, support Romney has. Those of us who are going to vote for him don't dare put bumper stickers or window signs up (most of us in the city don't have front yards). I haven't been out to the 'burbs in awhile so I don't know how it looks out there. I hardly watch network TV so I don't see any commercials by either side. I'm still getting fundraising phone calls (on my cell, no less) from the Romney people, if that means anything.
One man's observation here in the formerly great City of Brotherly Love.
Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (YmPwQ)
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Seriously, women shouldn't vote? I hear Saudi Arabia is nice this time of year.
Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (/YJYi)
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/17/romney-using-new-wave-ads-to-spell-out-how-would-govern/
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (LRFds)
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And you are right, Andy. Someone who stands up and says the party's over is a killjoy.. hard to get votes running on that.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 17, 2012 11:21 AM (Ho2rs)
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60 The taker/democrat class have a real problem: The productive responsible class are tired and going broke.Posted by: Fresh at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (O7ksG)
In which case they become takers. Before you know it we'll all be grateful the government instructs us how to cook grass.
The natural end to this is catastrophe. There is no easy out, and socialism has no shelf life, no matter what level of poverty we've reached.
In which case they become takers. Before you know it we'll all be grateful the government instructs us how to cook grass.
The natural end to this is catastrophe. There is no easy out, and socialism has no shelf life, no matter what level of poverty we've reached.
Posted by: lesbian seagull at September 17, 2012 11:21 AM (xXhWA)
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"Anyway, Tommy sees Kirk and Spock watching his father's log entry. He then begins pumping his fist up and down, and it's a gesture that, to put it mildly, is definitely open to other interpretations. Interpretations along the lines of, say, "doing the five-knuckle shuffle". Or "shaking the snake". Or "jerking the turkey". Or "dating Rosie Palm and her five sisters". Or "tenderizing the tube steak". Or "polishing the purple people pleaser". If you get what I mean."
-- Agony Booth review of that shitty Trek episode
-- Agony Booth review of that shitty Trek episode
Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 17, 2012 11:22 AM (FUull)
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76, no, I don't. I am the REAL Mary Cloggenstein, and my spelling is almost always immaculate. There are a few formatting errors to my work only because the sexually deviant Ewok who runs this blog spends his time molesting peoples' garbage cans and not running proper software. "Proper" in this case would be defined as anything made after 1998. As soon as he finishes violently pleasuring himself to pictures of Megyn Kelly and Marco Rubio, I'm sure he'll get right on that.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 17, 2012 11:22 AM (jCQ+I)
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kids hazve "soft foazm" ground in their play areas.
no dad around to get em off the video games or to even watch a ball game with.
no work ethic is instilled.
the single mother has to act
BOTH roles.
the suburbs are demonized as being where "uncultured whites flee to" (cities and their suburbs cannot exist without each other for the most part.)
theres plenty more to add. we're not completely boned as of yet, but the penetration is comin fast....whoah...did i jus say that?
no dad around to get em off the video games or to even watch a ball game with.
no work ethic is instilled.
the single mother has to act
BOTH roles.
the suburbs are demonized as being where "uncultured whites flee to" (cities and their suburbs cannot exist without each other for the most part.)
theres plenty more to add. we're not completely boned as of yet, but the penetration is comin fast....whoah...did i jus say that?
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at September 17, 2012 11:22 AM (nVqtU)
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Hail, hail
fire and snow
call the angel
we will go
Far away
for to see
friendly angel
come to me
And he looks like a lawyer!
fire and snow
call the angel
we will go
Far away
for to see
friendly angel
come to me
And he looks like a lawyer!
Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 11:23 AM (vDl/w)
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off topic: There is a great graph over at the Blaze that puts the whole polling crap into an easily digestible format.
Posted by: ballofhate at September 17, 2012 11:23 AM (AREf/)
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92 Adam,
I would rather my mother have not voted when I was a child for a few reasons:
1) she was insane
2) she was on federal aid
3) Federal aid recipients who vote are incentivized in a direction without pain to themselves.
If you receive a federal handout you should not vote. I don't count social security or medicare as handouts Food Stamps and Welfare payments are.
I would rather my mother have not voted when I was a child for a few reasons:
1) she was insane
2) she was on federal aid
3) Federal aid recipients who vote are incentivized in a direction without pain to themselves.
If you receive a federal handout you should not vote. I don't count social security or medicare as handouts Food Stamps and Welfare payments are.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:24 AM (LRFds)
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59 polynikes, my point about demographics is urban/suburban vs rural
We have our metrosexuals also but even some of them can't avoid being 'manly' every so often.
We need the culture to be more like this, so that such things are part of the atmosphere and you can't help absorbing some.
We have our metrosexuals also but even some of them can't avoid being 'manly' every so often.
We need the culture to be more like this, so that such things are part of the atmosphere and you can't help absorbing some.
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 11:24 AM (z9HTb)
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>>21
John Nolte's been on fire lately.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)
I've noticed the same thing. I go there specifically to read his stuff and not only am I never disappointed, he often exceeds expectations.Definitely on a mission to rip the lefty liars in the MFM a new one. He will reliably pop his head up and return withering fire.
A new favorite of mine.
John Nolte's been on fire lately.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 17, 2012 11:01 AM (/kI1Q)
I've noticed the same thing. I go there specifically to read his stuff and not only am I never disappointed, he often exceeds expectations.Definitely on a mission to rip the lefty liars in the MFM a new one. He will reliably pop his head up and return withering fire.
A new favorite of mine.
Posted by: ontherocks at September 17, 2012 11:24 AM (aZ6ew)
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Just once I would like to read the blog news with my coffee and not find people ready to jump off the building because it's all over! We're gonna lose! Woe, is me, the media told me Mitt is in disarray. I don't need the ulcers. I know if the MSM speaks it's gonna be lies, and damned lies. Just hang in there!
Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (W2Z3C)
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (z9HTb)
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>> Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (kdS6q)
Ha! I was this >< close to putting a clip of that episode in the post.
Ha! I was this >< close to putting a clip of that episode in the post.
Posted by: Andy at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (AxE3L)
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It's time for the Gulch. I don't want any part of this any more.
Posted by: dulce at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (Okd5n)
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This election isn't a battle between the haves and have-nots, as the Democrats want to paint it. It's a battle between the responsible and the irresponsible; the realistic and the unrealistic; the self-reliant and the dependent.
I tried to make this point over the weekend in a horribly-formatted post. Trying again:
Gallup:
Married registered voters prefer Republican challenger Mitt Romney over Democratic President Barack Obama by 54% to 39%, according to Gallup data collected from June to August. On the other hand, nonmarried voters break strongly for the president over Romney, 56% to 35%. Marriage is a significant predictor of presidential vote choice even after income, age, race, gender, education, religiosity, region, and having minor children are statistically controlled for.
http://tinyurl.com/99cyqbl
A lot of conservatives *yawn* when the subject of declining marriage rates come up, they figure it’s one of them social issues, has nothing to do with winning elections. But in a Makers v. Takers electorate, those are our people.
Less marriage = more Takers. More out-of-wedlock births = more Takers. More Takers = bye bye GOP.
Time to start talking about this, openly. For tactical reasons. We cannot win elections if this trend continues unchallenged. Can. Not. Win.
Reason.com offers explanations for a possible Obama victory. Win or lose this November, we have to recognize that the numbers of Takers v. Makers are moving in a bad direction:
The third possible explanation is one I hope is not true, but that lurks as a fear in the minds of many of those dismayed by the polls. That is that the *“takers” have started to outnumber, and outvote, the “makers.”* Add together the 46.7 million Americans on food stamps, the 8.7 million Americans receiving Pell Grants, the 7.6 million unionized government employees, and weigh them against the top 5% of income earners, the roughly 7 million taxpayers making more than about $154,000 a year, who earn about 32% of the adjusted gross income and pay about 59% of the nation’s individual income taxes. We have all kinds of systems and laws in America for protecting the rights of unpopular minorities, but no one has quite figured out how to prevent an election from devolving into “four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
http://tinyurl.com/8hrzhbn
Conservatives need to acknowledge this trend and alter their approach. We are no longer campaigning to elect a particular party. We have to campaign to save the very concept of individual responsibility
I tried to make this point over the weekend in a horribly-formatted post. Trying again:
Gallup:
Married registered voters prefer Republican challenger Mitt Romney over Democratic President Barack Obama by 54% to 39%, according to Gallup data collected from June to August. On the other hand, nonmarried voters break strongly for the president over Romney, 56% to 35%. Marriage is a significant predictor of presidential vote choice even after income, age, race, gender, education, religiosity, region, and having minor children are statistically controlled for.
http://tinyurl.com/99cyqbl
A lot of conservatives *yawn* when the subject of declining marriage rates come up, they figure it’s one of them social issues, has nothing to do with winning elections. But in a Makers v. Takers electorate, those are our people.
Less marriage = more Takers. More out-of-wedlock births = more Takers. More Takers = bye bye GOP.
Time to start talking about this, openly. For tactical reasons. We cannot win elections if this trend continues unchallenged. Can. Not. Win.
Reason.com offers explanations for a possible Obama victory. Win or lose this November, we have to recognize that the numbers of Takers v. Makers are moving in a bad direction:
The third possible explanation is one I hope is not true, but that lurks as a fear in the minds of many of those dismayed by the polls. That is that the *“takers” have started to outnumber, and outvote, the “makers.”* Add together the 46.7 million Americans on food stamps, the 8.7 million Americans receiving Pell Grants, the 7.6 million unionized government employees, and weigh them against the top 5% of income earners, the roughly 7 million taxpayers making more than about $154,000 a year, who earn about 32% of the adjusted gross income and pay about 59% of the nation’s individual income taxes. We have all kinds of systems and laws in America for protecting the rights of unpopular minorities, but no one has quite figured out how to prevent an election from devolving into “four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”
http://tinyurl.com/8hrzhbn
Conservatives need to acknowledge this trend and alter their approach. We are no longer campaigning to elect a particular party. We have to campaign to save the very concept of individual responsibility
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (9KqcB)
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One poster above hit it on the head. If you don't have a father to teach
you manly things you won't know what manly things you're supposed to
know. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (m2CN7)
i can tell a man raised by a woman and a man raised by a father (who was raised by men) just by the sound of his voice, and his speech patterns... I had not realized this bugged me, until my Marine and i hooked up. He would apologize for how rough he sounded and i couldn't help but laugh... I liked listening to a man talk like a (little bit rough) man better.
The ex working in Hollywood, and all the idiom that went with it was so brittle, whiny and counterfit, even when they were swearing, that the marine barking every once in a while at least sounded manly and honest.
One poster above hit it on the head. If you don't have a father to teach
you manly things you won't know what manly things you're supposed to
know. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (m2CN7)
i can tell a man raised by a woman and a man raised by a father (who was raised by men) just by the sound of his voice, and his speech patterns... I had not realized this bugged me, until my Marine and i hooked up. He would apologize for how rough he sounded and i couldn't help but laugh... I liked listening to a man talk like a (little bit rough) man better.
The ex working in Hollywood, and all the idiom that went with it was so brittle, whiny and counterfit, even when they were swearing, that the marine barking every once in a while at least sounded manly and honest.
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 17, 2012 11:26 AM (r7Ddb)
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VDH is spot on. I call it The Pussification of America.
Posted by: maddogg at September 17, 2012 11:26 AM (OlN4e)
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>>my newest favorite show
I'd never heard of it til yesterday!
Saw a clip of the episode where Phil is making his grand kids do manual labor.
Wanted to post it, but A and E doesn't have that episode on line.
>>my newest favorite show
I'd never heard of it til yesterday!
Saw a clip of the episode where Phil is making his grand kids do manual labor.
Wanted to post it, but A and E doesn't have that episode on line.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 17, 2012 11:26 AM (SUKHu)
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<i>If you receive a federal handout you should not vote. I don't count
social security or medicare as handouts Food Stamps and Welfare payments
are.</i>
Although both of those should have an explicit line marking the point "This much -you- paid for your own benefits" and "This much is was confiscated from others for your benefit."
social security or medicare as handouts Food Stamps and Welfare payments
are.</i>
Although both of those should have an explicit line marking the point "This much -you- paid for your own benefits" and "This much is was confiscated from others for your benefit."
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 11:27 AM (MzQOZ)
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"Add to this the fact that manly virtues are ridiculed, denigrated and devalued in our culture, and you wind up with an emasculated society."
Enter Al Bundy.
He's a blue-collar schlub! It's funny!
His family uses him and gives him no respect! It's funny!
His daughter's a skank and his son's an effette loser! It's funny!
Even the dog secretly hates him! It's funny!
And society ate it up. And impressionable mush-minds watched, and assumed that this was the way the world really works.
Don't be Al Bundy and take a loser-job.
Don't be Al Bundy and submit yourself to a wife, two kids, and a dog suburbia life.
Were the problems in society already long before MWC ran? Yes.
But I firmly believe that it was the lethal blow.
The killer already stabbed the victim multiple times, but then they got tired of the game and took the rock and smashed in the skull.
Enter Al Bundy.
He's a blue-collar schlub! It's funny!
His family uses him and gives him no respect! It's funny!
His daughter's a skank and his son's an effette loser! It's funny!
Even the dog secretly hates him! It's funny!
And society ate it up. And impressionable mush-minds watched, and assumed that this was the way the world really works.
Don't be Al Bundy and take a loser-job.
Don't be Al Bundy and submit yourself to a wife, two kids, and a dog suburbia life.
Were the problems in society already long before MWC ran? Yes.
But I firmly believe that it was the lethal blow.
The killer already stabbed the victim multiple times, but then they got tired of the game and took the rock and smashed in the skull.
Posted by: reason at September 17, 2012 11:27 AM (W2YA6)
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This has been a discussion around my house for the last ten years, although from a slightly different point of view.
I grew up on a farm, I'm an engineer (BSME, MSIE, not a sanitation engineer), and I'm former military (USN Submarines, Engineer Qualified). I look at how hard engineers work and compare it to how hard my friends in finance work vs. how much each group gets paid. The math simply doesn't work!
I grew up on a farm, I'm an engineer (BSME, MSIE, not a sanitation engineer), and I'm former military (USN Submarines, Engineer Qualified). I look at how hard engineers work and compare it to how hard my friends in finance work vs. how much each group gets paid. The math simply doesn't work!
Posted by: Grim at September 17, 2012 11:27 AM (tO352)
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The fallacy of the makers/takers argument is the assumption that once someone becomes a taker, they want to remain there.
That might be true in a third world country where wealth is determined by cronyism, but in the US there are countless examples of people pulling themselves up from poverty and making a comfortable life for themselves.
There are plenty of people who are happy to remain government dependent, but the notion that close to 50% of the voters feel that way, when close to 50% of the voters are getting some form of government assistance is a fallacy.
Back in 2001 I spent 3 months on unemployment. I hated it it more than anything in my life.
"You can't fool all of the people, all of the time"
That might be true in a third world country where wealth is determined by cronyism, but in the US there are countless examples of people pulling themselves up from poverty and making a comfortable life for themselves.
There are plenty of people who are happy to remain government dependent, but the notion that close to 50% of the voters feel that way, when close to 50% of the voters are getting some form of government assistance is a fallacy.
Back in 2001 I spent 3 months on unemployment. I hated it it more than anything in my life.
"You can't fool all of the people, all of the time"
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 17, 2012 11:28 AM (PG7KH)
Posted by: fixerupper at September 17, 2012 11:28 AM (C8hzL)
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Sigh, I denounce myself.
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 11:28 AM (MzQOZ)
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Add to this the fact that manly virtues are
ridiculed, denigrated and devalued in our culture, and you wind up with
an emasculated society.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (v+QvA)
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This.
I know he is somewhat of a running gag around here, but if you want a good illustration of the rather stark differences between 1940's males and 1990's males check out the Mel Gibson flick "Forever Young".
ridiculed, denigrated and devalued in our culture, and you wind up with
an emasculated society.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 17, 2012 11:05 AM (v+QvA)
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This.
I know he is somewhat of a running gag around here, but if you want a good illustration of the rather stark differences between 1940's males and 1990's males check out the Mel Gibson flick "Forever Young".
Posted by: Nighthawk at September 17, 2012 11:29 AM (RSqz2)
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Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (LRFds)
Sven... that article has the rotting smell of the maggot covered Associated Press.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:20 AM (LRFds)
Sven... that article has the rotting smell of the maggot covered Associated Press.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (2dn/j)
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111 VDH is spot on. I call it The Pussification of America.
Posted by: maddogg at September 17, 2012 11:26 AM (OlN4e)
Try this little experiment:
Watch any movie, TV show or commercial (easiest and most obvious IMO). The male is either, dumb, incompetent, mean or a combination of all and the chick/girl/woman is smart, heroic and makes the guys look like total idiots.
Posted by: maddogg at September 17, 2012 11:26 AM (OlN4e)
Try this little experiment:
Watch any movie, TV show or commercial (easiest and most obvious IMO). The male is either, dumb, incompetent, mean or a combination of all and the chick/girl/woman is smart, heroic and makes the guys look like total idiots.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (+tqYo)
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"We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst." - C. S. Lewis
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (QupBk)
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Get out of the city before it's too late.
Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at September 17, 2012 11:31 AM (SDkq3)
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GUSHKA!!!!!! ♥
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 17, 2012 11:31 AM (Ho2rs)
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Okay, here y'all go.
Short clip, kinda on topic,that should make you want to watch the show:
http://youtu.be/_cKZ3awBMbA
And I'll try to get the clip with the grandkids getting their hands dirty (gasp).
Okay, here y'all go.
Short clip, kinda on topic,that should make you want to watch the show:
http://youtu.be/_cKZ3awBMbA
And I'll try to get the clip with the grandkids getting their hands dirty (gasp).
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 17, 2012 11:32 AM (SUKHu)
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sven,
SS and Medicare ARE welfare. We have been corrupted for at least three generations to expect the gubmint to provide for our retirement.
SS and Medicare ARE welfare. We have been corrupted for at least three generations to expect the gubmint to provide for our retirement.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:32 AM (he2LC)
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Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (QupBk)
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finish lewis's quote... it applies
"We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful"
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finish lewis's quote... it applies
"We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful"
Posted by: fixerupper at September 17, 2012 11:32 AM (C8hzL)
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"Watch any movie, TV show or commercial (easiest and most obvious IMO). The male is either, dumb, incompetent, mean or a combination of all and the chick/girl/woman is smart, heroic and makes the guys look like total idiots. "
---exactly. also look for more of the "demonized suburbia" traits. silly family values, picket fences or just all around snobbish attitude as compared to city dwellers.
---exactly. also look for more of the "demonized suburbia" traits. silly family values, picket fences or just all around snobbish attitude as compared to city dwellers.
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at September 17, 2012 11:32 AM (nVqtU)
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Ah screw it you know what I changed my mind I agree with the Democrats. let's let housepets and kids vote. Why not? I'm pretty sure I'll get a videogame subsidy if 12 year olds have a national caucus.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:32 AM (LRFds)
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122 "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst." - C. S. Lewis
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (QupBk)
Is that from "The Abolition of Man"?
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (QupBk)
Is that from "The Abolition of Man"?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 17, 2012 11:33 AM (136wp)
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102, 92 Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:24 AM (LRFds)
I would take it a step further. You can only vote if you paid money to the government on your tax return.
I would take it a step further. You can only vote if you paid money to the government on your tax return.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:33 AM (+tqYo)
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The Right’s mistake when dealing with the #OWS movement is to think
that anybody needs to defend Wall Street. There are probably more
Democrats on Wall Street than there are Republicans, and their sins have
been plenty. Worse, Democrats in this Administration have been
complicit with Wall Street.
The biggest mistake is that Democrats have forged this bond between
the “sins of Wall Street” and raising taxes on the “rich.” It’s an easy
jump for Democrats to make, but Republicans shouldn’t get sucked in
their jet wash.
The Right’s mistake when dealing with the #OWS movement is to think
that anybody needs to defend Wall Street. There are probably more
Democrats on Wall Street than there are Republicans, and their sins have
been plenty. Worse, Democrats in this Administration have been
complicit with Wall Street.
The biggest mistake is that Democrats have forged this bond between
the “sins of Wall Street” and raising taxes on the “rich.” It’s an easy
jump for Democrats to make, but Republicans shouldn’t get sucked in
their jet wash.
Posted by: #OccupyAnthonyWeinersShorts at September 17, 2012 11:33 AM (e8kgV)
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Back in 2001 I spent 3 months on unemployment. I hated it it more than anything in my life.
Yeah, so did my brother, although it was longer than 3 months. And I caught up with him back in May after not speaking for about five years. In the process, I grazed politics with him only to find out that he's a Bambi zombie.
His reasoning is that "he inherited a big mess and hasn't had enough time to clean it up". There's absolutely no getting through to him. He's positive that opposition to Bambi is unfair because of racism. He's in Philly and reads the Inquirer every day. He's also a pretty virulent racist. Go figure.
Back in 2001 I spent 3 months on unemployment. I hated it it more than anything in my life.
Yeah, so did my brother, although it was longer than 3 months. And I caught up with him back in May after not speaking for about five years. In the process, I grazed politics with him only to find out that he's a Bambi zombie.
His reasoning is that "he inherited a big mess and hasn't had enough time to clean it up". There's absolutely no getting through to him. He's positive that opposition to Bambi is unfair because of racism. He's in Philly and reads the Inquirer every day. He's also a pretty virulent racist. Go figure.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:33 AM (2dn/j)
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>>That's all the proof I need that women, taken as a
whole, are less-informed and less-responsible voters than men, taken as a
whole, are.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (I2LwF)
That may or may not be true, but speaking for myself, I much prefer taking women as a whole IYNWIMandIreallyfuckinghopethatyoudo Truman.
whole, are less-informed and less-responsible voters than men, taken as a
whole, are.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:12 AM (I2LwF)
That may or may not be true, but speaking for myself, I much prefer taking women as a whole IYNWIMandIreallyfuckinghopethatyoudo Truman.
Posted by: ontherocks at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (aZ6ew)
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I look at how hard engineers work and compare it to how hard my friends
in finance work vs. how much each group gets paid. The math simply
doesn't work!>>
This makes me think of a slightly re-engineered Stalin quote.
"It's not the people who make stuff that count. It's the people who count the money"
in finance work vs. how much each group gets paid. The math simply
doesn't work!>>
This makes me think of a slightly re-engineered Stalin quote.
"It's not the people who make stuff that count. It's the people who count the money"
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: fixerupper at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (C8hzL)
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126 Bart,
Social security and medicare as legislated are not welfare or my paycheks lied to me. As they are ran yes unarguably you are correct. I changed my mind.
If Cookie Monster gets to vote 5,000 times each cycle we should let everyone vote illegal alien male female boy george.
Vote or don't folks because I am pretty sure the democrats vote for you several times over anyway.
Social security and medicare as legislated are not welfare or my paycheks lied to me. As they are ran yes unarguably you are correct. I changed my mind.
If Cookie Monster gets to vote 5,000 times each cycle we should let everyone vote illegal alien male female boy george.
Vote or don't folks because I am pretty sure the democrats vote for you several times over anyway.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (LRFds)
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (QupBk)
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Here you go:
Duck Dynasty: From getting only an apple for Christmas to growing up rich in a couple generations.
"Find him a squirrel eating woman."
http://youtu.be/YvHu_RbwUoY
Here you go:
Duck Dynasty: From getting only an apple for Christmas to growing up rich in a couple generations.
"Find him a squirrel eating woman."
http://youtu.be/YvHu_RbwUoY
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (SUKHu)
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Back in 2001 I spent 3 months on unemployment. I hated it it more than anything in my life."You can't fool all of the people, all of the time"
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 17, 2012 11:28 AM (PG7KH)
I don't necessarily consider unemployment benefits to be a taker. That is insurance paid for by your employer on your behalf. Now if you are one of those that refuses to take employmentbecause its not up to your standards and believe the length oftime for benefits should pratically be unlimited, then yes you're a taker.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 17, 2012 11:28 AM (PG7KH)
I don't necessarily consider unemployment benefits to be a taker. That is insurance paid for by your employer on your behalf. Now if you are one of those that refuses to take employmentbecause its not up to your standards and believe the length oftime for benefits should pratically be unlimited, then yes you're a taker.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:35 AM (m2CN7)
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134 Posted by: ontherocks at September 17, 2012 11:34 AM (aZ6ew)
Reminds me of a riddle.
Q: What are the 3 best things about anal sex?
A: Location, location, location.
Reminds me of a riddle.
Q: What are the 3 best things about anal sex?
A: Location, location, location.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:35 AM (+tqYo)
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I'm confident that they have game-planned an
almost-incomprehensible number of scenarios for the last 50 days.
Columnists, TV news, and bloggers have to fill content every day or
readers and ad dollars leave. This leads to some of the most
counter-factual and stupid crap being written and called "analysis."
Grain of salt is an understatement of how you need to regard most of it.
Be not afraid.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
..........
I agree. But he doesn't control all inputs.. the SCOAMF has the ability to invent crises and scenarios that Mitt has no controll over.
almost-incomprehensible number of scenarios for the last 50 days.
Columnists, TV news, and bloggers have to fill content every day or
readers and ad dollars leave. This leads to some of the most
counter-factual and stupid crap being written and called "analysis."
Grain of salt is an understatement of how you need to regard most of it.
Be not afraid.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
..........
I agree. But he doesn't control all inputs.. the SCOAMF has the ability to invent crises and scenarios that Mitt has no controll over.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 17, 2012 11:35 AM (f9c2L)
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In the ancient world, farming and war instilled a sense of duty and responsibility in men. Today? “Men don’t know much about farming, and few are in the military, but most know a great deal about video games,” says Hanson.
Why do all that hard stuff when they can send anonymous obscenity laden threats, fantasize about how they beat someone senseless on comments boards, and become the Internet Tough Guy
Why do all that hard stuff when they can send anonymous obscenity laden threats, fantasize about how they beat someone senseless on comments boards, and become the Internet Tough Guy
Posted by: kbdabear at September 17, 2012 11:36 AM (wwsoB)
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133 TMI,
As brilliant a set of reasoning as my Sister in Law in San Diego, Barack Obama is more Republican than the GOP racist.
"ok"
As brilliant a set of reasoning as my Sister in Law in San Diego, Barack Obama is more Republican than the GOP racist.
"ok"
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:36 AM (LRFds)
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that CS Lewis quote explains why the Left hated and villified the Promise Keepers back in the '90's
men acting like responsible fathers and sons, accountable to God-- no, no, can't have that
that CS Lewis quote explains why the Left hated and villified the Promise Keepers back in the '90's
men acting like responsible fathers and sons, accountable to God-- no, no, can't have that
Posted by: soothsayer at September 17, 2012 11:36 AM (SaGLz)
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It's not like if the 19th Amendment went away women wouldn't get a vote. Their husbands would be the one making it. ;-)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (ZWvOb)
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No, our problems didn't start because we let women vote.
Our problems started because we let women drive. *rimshot*
Our problems started because we let women drive. *rimshot*
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (SY2Kh)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:30 AM (+tqYo)
Right. That's why culturally we can only worship men now if they're dressed in some f*ggy superhero costume. Masculinity is now apparently racist.
Right. That's why culturally we can only worship men now if they're dressed in some f*ggy superhero costume. Masculinity is now apparently racist.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (2dn/j)
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Not to be a contrarian, but I think most guys growing up go through the kinda has a girlfriend thing.
Posted by: eleven at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (KXm42)
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"---exactly. also look for more of the "demonized suburbia" traits. silly
family values, picket fences or just all around snobbish attitude as
compared to city dwellers."[/]i
There's a Verizon commercial about the evils of bundling that is essentially hitting you in the face with it. "WE ...AAAALLLLL... BUNDLE"
family values, picket fences or just all around snobbish attitude as
compared to city dwellers."[/]i
There's a Verizon commercial about the evils of bundling that is essentially hitting you in the face with it. "WE ...AAAALLLLL... BUNDLE"
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (MzQOZ)
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That might be true in a third world country where wealth is determined by cronyism, but in the US there are countless examples of people pulling themselves up from poverty and making a comfortable life for themselves.
But it's not up from poverty anymore. More and more working class families are growing dependent. That's the dangerous trend.
There are plenty of people who are happy to remain government dependent, but the notion that close to 50% of the voters feel that way, when close to 50% of the voters are getting some form of government assistance is a fallacy
The fallacy here is the notion that it's only thedirect recipients who will vote in support of increasing assistance, when in factthere is a large group of moderates/independents/liberals who will vote liberal not because they receive aid, but because they thinkothers need it.The Democratic Party could not survive without them.
But it's not up from poverty anymore. More and more working class families are growing dependent. That's the dangerous trend.
There are plenty of people who are happy to remain government dependent, but the notion that close to 50% of the voters feel that way, when close to 50% of the voters are getting some form of government assistance is a fallacy
The fallacy here is the notion that it's only thedirect recipients who will vote in support of increasing assistance, when in factthere is a large group of moderates/independents/liberals who will vote liberal not because they receive aid, but because they thinkothers need it.The Democratic Party could not survive without them.
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:38 AM (9KqcB)
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You may have heard that men often think with their dicks. Women vote with their....crotches.
Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:38 AM (he2LC)
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>>>>Stein's Law:
Pretty much. Laziness, dependency, and irresponsibility cost money and the Federal Government has just about burnt it all up. The people VDH is talking about will get a chance to redeem themselves when the government's role in their lives dissolves.
All all the sad little leftists that view government as their parental figure will face a change as well when they get orphaned.
Pretty much. Laziness, dependency, and irresponsibility cost money and the Federal Government has just about burnt it all up. The people VDH is talking about will get a chance to redeem themselves when the government's role in their lives dissolves.
All all the sad little leftists that view government as their parental figure will face a change as well when they get orphaned.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 11:38 AM (N/1Dm)
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However, when we hear "close to 50% are receiving government checks, therefor they will vote for Obama" they are including unemployment.
My argument is that the true "takers" is not as close to 50% as everyone is thinking. If it were that big, then we wouldn't have a functioning economy.
My argument is that the true "takers" is not as close to 50% as everyone is thinking. If it were that big, then we wouldn't have a functioning economy.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 17, 2012 11:38 AM (PG7KH)
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146 It's not like if the 19th Amendment went away women wouldn't get a vote. Their husbands would be the one making it. ;-)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (ZWvOb)
And the women wouldn't be left out, they could be in the kitchen making sandwiches for when the men come home from voting... ;-)
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (ZWvOb)
And the women wouldn't be left out, they could be in the kitchen making sandwiches for when the men come home from voting... ;-)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 17, 2012 11:39 AM (136wp)
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Forever Young is good movie for an example of the decline but I prefer Blast From The Past as a better example. Funnier too.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:39 AM (m2CN7)
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Dear Cthulhu.
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 11:39 AM (MzQOZ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 17, 2012 11:39 AM (Ho2rs)
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142 KBdabear,
Hear, hear...
I wish the OW$ assholes would take a good hard look at that Government thing they so love.
Alaska is 1/5th the size of CONUS and the feds own 90% of that outright.
I'd like to be able to try to make farming profitable in Alaska, but it'd take a lot of land and greenhouses.
Hear, hear...
I wish the OW$ assholes would take a good hard look at that Government thing they so love.
Alaska is 1/5th the size of CONUS and the feds own 90% of that outright.
I'd like to be able to try to make farming profitable in Alaska, but it'd take a lot of land and greenhouses.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:39 AM (LRFds)
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>>>Watch any movie, TV show or commercial (easiest and most obvious IMO). The male is either, dumb, incompetent, mean or a combination of all and the chick/girl/woman is smart, heroic and makes the guys look like total idiots.
Happened to catch some commercial last night where the wife was emptying multiple cans of air freshener in vain,until the slightly smirking husband came in and placed one of those automated time release ones to solve the problem.
Needless to say, I was completely shocked.
Happened to catch some commercial last night where the wife was emptying multiple cans of air freshener in vain,until the slightly smirking husband came in and placed one of those automated time release ones to solve the problem.
Needless to say, I was completely shocked.
Posted by: Lurking Canuck at September 17, 2012 11:39 AM (NF2Bf)
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If it were that big, then we wouldn't have a functioning economy.
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You havent been paying attention......
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You havent been paying attention......
Posted by: fixerupper at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (C8hzL)
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Reuters) - Lebanese President Michel Suleiman asked Iran on Monday for a formal assurance that its Revolutionary Guards, who helped found the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon 30 years ago, have no presence there now, the president's office said.
That's like asking a guy to promise he will not come in your mouth
That's like asking a guy to promise he will not come in your mouth
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (j1gX1)
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The sad thing is Kennedy was probably as conservative as old Mitt is. That's how far the bar has shifted in 50 years.
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (ZWvOb)
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As someone sorta noted above, it's not 'men / women' in voter split-- it marriage
Married White women are somewhat more likely to vote R than single White men.
Marriage makes the difference, not 'gender'; single people ( no offense intended ) are far more likely to be f*cked up, poor, mentally disturbed, etc
Married White women are somewhat more likely to vote R than single White men.
Marriage makes the difference, not 'gender'; single people ( no offense intended ) are far more likely to be f*cked up, poor, mentally disturbed, etc
Posted by: DOA in Scrambletown, FLA at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (Dll6b)
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55 Ed Anger is a dumb troll that got tired of trolling HA because he was finally being ignored.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM (2dn/j)
Naw, just doing my best Eeyore imitation. Some of you'uns really take the bait.
55 Ed Anger is a dumb troll that got tired of trolling HA because he was finally being ignored.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:11 AM (2dn/j)
Naw, just doing my best Eeyore imitation. Some of you'uns really take the bait.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (tOkJB)
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Years ago, Kim Du Toit, from The Other Side Of Kim, wrote a great essay called The Pussification Of The Western Male. He pretty much lays out the history of this change in the Western culture over the last 90+ years or so. He and his wife gave up their blog a few years ago, but I had downloaded his essay and had saved it. If I can figure some place to post it, I'll post the link here. A very good read.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (MbeR6)
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>>A: Location, location, location.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:35 AM (+tqYo)
And THAT'S why I come here.
......so to speak
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 11:35 AM (+tqYo)
And THAT'S why I come here.
......so to speak
Posted by: ontherocks at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (aZ6ew)
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152 You may have heard that men often think with their dicks. Women vote with their....crotches.
Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:38 AM (he2LC)
It would seem to work better the other way... I could vote if I was tumid and would be able to flip a lever in an erect stat, I doubt a woman could voter could use any part of her sexual anatomy to accomplish the same...
Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:38 AM (he2LC)
It would seem to work better the other way... I could vote if I was tumid and would be able to flip a lever in an erect stat, I doubt a woman could voter could use any part of her sexual anatomy to accomplish the same...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (136wp)
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Not to be a contrarian, but I think most guys growing up go through the kinda has a girlfriend thing.
Posted by: eleven at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (KXm42)
I think he was referring to the trend of 'hooking up' and not really going on dates.
Posted by: eleven at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (KXm42)
I think he was referring to the trend of 'hooking up' and not really going on dates.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (m2CN7)
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124
GUSHKA!!!!!! ♥
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 17, 2012 11:31 AM (Ho2rs)
HI PG! BTW thats not my Grim up there. he would prolly call himself something else if he talked to imaginary people in a box. Which he refuses to do anyway. Seriously this cultural situation gets me down. producers and military are treated like fools and chumps. Hell even in the military the workhorse NCOs are treated that way. Somethings gotta change. we are not rented mules. We either kick over the traces and shatter the wagon, or let them pull it themselves. But its gotten so heavy we will die if we just keep pulling without question, while they beat us, yelling "Faster! faster!"
And yeah in the military some of the workhorses are run into the ground until the quit or die. Its sad. I heard someone tell me sadly "The system is broken. They dont want to do things right or fix anything, all they care about is politics and their own careers"
GUSHKA!!!!!! ♥
Posted by: phoenixgirl, what did huma abedin know? at September 17, 2012 11:31 AM (Ho2rs)
HI PG! BTW thats not my Grim up there. he would prolly call himself something else if he talked to imaginary people in a box. Which he refuses to do anyway. Seriously this cultural situation gets me down. producers and military are treated like fools and chumps. Hell even in the military the workhorse NCOs are treated that way. Somethings gotta change. we are not rented mules. We either kick over the traces and shatter the wagon, or let them pull it themselves. But its gotten so heavy we will die if we just keep pulling without question, while they beat us, yelling "Faster! faster!"
And yeah in the military some of the workhorses are run into the ground until the quit or die. Its sad. I heard someone tell me sadly "The system is broken. They dont want to do things right or fix anything, all they care about is politics and their own careers"
Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (r7Ddb)
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Police in northeast Ohio say they've arrested a woman charged with stealing her son's state and federal income tax refunds while he was serving with the U.S. Army in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The Repository in Canton reports police stopped 42-year-old Jennifer Fletcher on Sunday in Brewster after determining the vehicle she was driving had been reported stolen. The newspaper reports Fletcher is suspected of withdrawing $7,500 from her son's account in 2010 and 2011 and forging his signature to cash checks in his name.
Court records show she was arrested on charges of theft, identify fraud and forgery.
Nice mom
The Repository in Canton reports police stopped 42-year-old Jennifer Fletcher on Sunday in Brewster after determining the vehicle she was driving had been reported stolen. The newspaper reports Fletcher is suspected of withdrawing $7,500 from her son's account in 2010 and 2011 and forging his signature to cash checks in his name.
Court records show she was arrested on charges of theft, identify fraud and forgery.
Nice mom
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:42 AM (j1gX1)
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There's a Verizon commercial about the evils of bundling that is
essentially hitting you in the face with it. "WE ...AAAALLLLL... BUNDLE"
And I thought those two look eerily like caricatures of the Romneys. But then I think I'm getting paranoid.
Then again, there was an electric toothbrush commercial in the Fall of 2008 that featured a dude that looked just like Bambi and he raised his (toothbrush enclosed) fist in the air with the text on the screen "Power to the People". Seriously.
essentially hitting you in the face with it. "WE ...AAAALLLLL... BUNDLE"
And I thought those two look eerily like caricatures of the Romneys. But then I think I'm getting paranoid.
Then again, there was an electric toothbrush commercial in the Fall of 2008 that featured a dude that looked just like Bambi and he raised his (toothbrush enclosed) fist in the air with the text on the screen "Power to the People". Seriously.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:42 AM (2dn/j)
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I'd refute you, but Michelle says that I have to take the girls to school today. But you just wait until I get back.
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 17, 2012 11:42 AM (mV8sg)
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Adam Carolla also wrote a very funny book on this subject. He also rants about it everyday on his podcast.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:42 AM (m2CN7)
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Glenn is going over the casualty stats in Afghanistan under Obama's mis-management.
Shame on us for staying silent.
Shame on us for staying silent.
Posted by: soothsayer at September 17, 2012 11:42 AM (6OiNi)
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Feminists have been trying to pussify the men in this country for about 40 years now.
Posted by: real joe at September 17, 2012 11:43 AM (3EB+F)
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I think he was referring to the trend of 'hooking up' and not really going on dates.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (m2CN7)
I'm not seeing the problem with that.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (m2CN7)
I'm not seeing the problem with that.
Posted by: Charlie Harper at September 17, 2012 11:43 AM (/YJYi)
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Victor Davis Hanson is a racist and a sexist who idealizes a past filled with war and hatred
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If you turn on a tv right now you can see people chanting "Shut Up America" and throwing tear gas cannisters at US consulates.
The world is full of hatred and Obama is dropping bombs on suspected terrorists every day.
Victor Davis Hanson is a racist and a sexist who idealizes a past filled with war and hatred
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If you turn on a tv right now you can see people chanting "Shut Up America" and throwing tear gas cannisters at US consulates.
The world is full of hatred and Obama is dropping bombs on suspected terrorists every day.
Posted by: Jay at September 17, 2012 11:43 AM (3LaGb)
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Not to be a contrarian, but I think most guys growing up go through the kinda has a girlfriend thing.
Posted by: eleven at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (KXm42)
NO, they go thru that AFTER they are married. Girl to guy at bar.." Are you married" .."Well kinda, it's complicated"
Posted by: eleven at September 17, 2012 11:37 AM (KXm42)
NO, they go thru that AFTER they are married. Girl to guy at bar.." Are you married" .."Well kinda, it's complicated"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (j1gX1)
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Naw, just doing my best Eeyore imitation. Some of you'uns really take the bait.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (tOkJB)
Yeah, you sure fooled me with the exact behavior you've been displaying in every single post of yours for the last year. Guess I better go kill myself.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:40 AM (tOkJB)
Yeah, you sure fooled me with the exact behavior you've been displaying in every single post of yours for the last year. Guess I better go kill myself.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (2dn/j)
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Watch any movie, TV show or commercial (easiest and most obvious IMO). The male is either, dumb, incompetent, mean or a combination of all and the chick/girl/woman is smart, heroic and makes the guys look like total idiots.
Pretty wife/homely husband is the rule. I'm waiting for the next wacky sitcom to feature a Playboy bunny wife with a husband portrayed by The Elephant Man.
Pretty wife/homely husband is the rule. I'm waiting for the next wacky sitcom to feature a Playboy bunny wife with a husband portrayed by The Elephant Man.
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (9KqcB)
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I agree with VDH. Having worked at State U, I know the while male is the cause of all the world's problems.
And my neighborhood is different than when I moved in 25 years ago. Back then, it was Mayberry. Now we have cops called out for domestic disputes, gang bangers moving in and out, yard dog barking all night long. It's a big F-U to the neighbors. So much for civic virtues.
And my neighborhood is different than when I moved in 25 years ago. Back then, it was Mayberry. Now we have cops called out for domestic disputes, gang bangers moving in and out, yard dog barking all night long. It's a big F-U to the neighbors. So much for civic virtues.
Posted by: PJ at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (DQHjw)
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171 NGU,
My mom stole 85% of my lump sum payment for my hip from the Army.
I got to watch her and the drunks from my plat piss it away, quite literally. I was stupid for not putting it in a safe deposit box. Ah the early 20s when you think your parents are who they were at 11.
Now that I think about she started the breakdown she never came back from between 11 and 12 though.
I was dumb hope the kid has more luck than me getting his money back.
My mom stole 85% of my lump sum payment for my hip from the Army.
I got to watch her and the drunks from my plat piss it away, quite literally. I was stupid for not putting it in a safe deposit box. Ah the early 20s when you think your parents are who they were at 11.
Now that I think about she started the breakdown she never came back from between 11 and 12 though.
I was dumb hope the kid has more luck than me getting his money back.
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 11:45 AM (LRFds)
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I think he was referring to the trend of 'hooking up' and not really going on dates.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (m2CN7)
I'm not seeing the problem with that."
---there isnt one, some people are inherently independent. this was about the only thing i disagreed with VDH on in this article.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:41 AM (m2CN7)
I'm not seeing the problem with that."
---there isnt one, some people are inherently independent. this was about the only thing i disagreed with VDH on in this article.
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at September 17, 2012 11:45 AM (nVqtU)
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Pretty wife/homely husband is the rule. I'm waiting for the next wacky sitcom to feature a Playboy bunny wife with a husband portrayed by The Elephant Man.
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (9KqcB)
I'm in love with Jack of Jack In the Box's wife.
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (9KqcB)
I'm in love with Jack of Jack In the Box's wife.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:46 AM (m2CN7)
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I hope that the last 4 years have taught everyone to parse what anyone (particularly someone who wants to sell you on something) says.
Looking back at some of the major statements by Barack Obama, I can say that for the most part, he told the truth.
He did what he claimed he would do.
It just wasn't in the positive manner that so many thought was what he meant.
Parse : parse/pärs/
Verb: Analyse (a sentence) into its component parts and describe their syntactic roles.
Noun: An act of or the result obtained by parsing a string or a text.
Synonyms: analyse
The key is to analyse what the meaning of each word, exactly.
Change is not necessarily good. Fundamental means foundational and he has definitely changed the way the world looks at the United States.
Perhaps forever.
Looking back at some of the major statements by Barack Obama, I can say that for the most part, he told the truth.
He did what he claimed he would do.
It just wasn't in the positive manner that so many thought was what he meant.
Parse : parse/pärs/
Verb: Analyse (a sentence) into its component parts and describe their syntactic roles.
Noun: An act of or the result obtained by parsing a string or a text.
Synonyms: analyse
The key is to analyse what the meaning of each word, exactly.
Change is not necessarily good. Fundamental means foundational and he has definitely changed the way the world looks at the United States.
Perhaps forever.
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 17, 2012 11:46 AM (Vh0f5)
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<<"Frankly, it's a battle between an adult's view of the world and a child's. And the adults are precariously close to losing.">>
I've said it before. There's a reason why liberal politics appeal to young people - they are the party of adolesence. They are utopian idealists with a nasty streak of intolerance when things aren't going their way. They believe in double-standards - onefor themselves (and their "cool friends") and other people they don't like. When things go wrong, they cry about life not being fair. They are elitists. They worship the superficial over substance.Liberals do not want to take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions when things go wrong. They expect to be bailed out, but are rarely grateful to the people who help them after things get better.
Conservatives are the party of old, tightassed, crew cut-wearing dads and moms who won't let you date boys with tattoos. We expect everyone to live by rules - more so, the same rules as everyone else regardless of how pretty they are or what toys they have. We invented the phrase "no one said life was fair." We make you eat your vegetables before dessert. We don't expect handouts but are usually the ones offering to help when the shit hits the fan. We're the mom and dad party.
<<"Frankly, it's a battle between an adult's view of the world and a child's. And the adults are precariously close to losing.">>
I've said it before. There's a reason why liberal politics appeal to young people - they are the party of adolesence. They are utopian idealists with a nasty streak of intolerance when things aren't going their way. They believe in double-standards - onefor themselves (and their "cool friends") and other people they don't like. When things go wrong, they cry about life not being fair. They are elitists. They worship the superficial over substance.Liberals do not want to take responsibility for the consequences of their own actions when things go wrong. They expect to be bailed out, but are rarely grateful to the people who help them after things get better.
Conservatives are the party of old, tightassed, crew cut-wearing dads and moms who won't let you date boys with tattoos. We expect everyone to live by rules - more so, the same rules as everyone else regardless of how pretty they are or what toys they have. We invented the phrase "no one said life was fair." We make you eat your vegetables before dessert. We don't expect handouts but are usually the ones offering to help when the shit hits the fan. We're the mom and dad party.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (WLuv5)
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Yeah, you sure fooled me with the exact behavior you've been displaying in every single post of yours for the last year. Guess I better go kill myself.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (2dn/j)
Try something that doesn't hurt very much.
Yeah, you sure fooled me with the exact behavior you've been displaying in every single post of yours for the last year. Guess I better go kill myself.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:44 AM (2dn/j)
Try something that doesn't hurt very much.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (tOkJB)
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8 Boys are no longer encouraged to become men and, because of divorce and single mother parenting, they have no examples of how to be men.
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I have absolutely no idea what you mean
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I have absolutely no idea what you mean
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (SO2Q8)
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Conservatives are the party of old, tightassed, crew cut-wearing dads and moms who won't let you date boys with tattoos. We expect everyone to live by rules - more so, the same rules as everyone else regardless of how pretty they are or what toys they have. We invented the phrase "no one said life was fair." We make you eat your vegetables before dessert. We don't expect handouts but are usually the ones offering to help when the shit hits the fan. We're the mom and dad party.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (WLuv5)
Outstanding
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (WLuv5)
Outstanding
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:48 AM (j1gX1)
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I was at a cookout yesterday where there were a lot of like-minded individuals - "makers" versus "takers". There was a fair amount of political discourse through the afternoon, and I sensed a great amount of frustration and resentment regarding the state of affairs in this country under the gross malfeasance of TFG. Unfortunately, I still didn't sense enough of an "I've had it and I'm not going to take it anymore" vibe. I left wondering how much more is it going to take to mobilize a cohesive, effective countermeasure to this bullshit?
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 17, 2012 11:48 AM (vbh31)
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Try something that doesn't hurt very much.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (tOkJB)
Great idea. How about I read a pile of your posts and paint-dry myself to death.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:47 AM (tOkJB)
Great idea. How about I read a pile of your posts and paint-dry myself to death.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:49 AM (2dn/j)
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[strike]Feminists[/strike] Women have been trying to pussify the men in this country for about 40 years now.
Posted by: real joe at September 17, 2012 11:43 AM (3EB+F)
Posted by: real joe at September 17, 2012 11:43 AM (3EB+F)
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 17, 2012 11:49 AM (Vh0f5)
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[del]Feminists[/del]
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 17, 2012 11:49 AM (Vh0f5)
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What. We've lost the brackets now too?
Posted by: Jcw46 at September 17, 2012 11:50 AM (Vh0f5)
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Whoa, someone reported Rasmussen wrong earlier. Romney +2 not +1 today.
And on a Monday too (historically the GOP's worst day of the week in tracking polls).
And on a Monday too (historically the GOP's worst day of the week in tracking polls).
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 17, 2012 11:50 AM (PG7KH)
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32 14 Remember the episode of "Lost In Space" where the kids ruled the space station? America, 2012. Gevalt. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 17, 2012 10:58 AM The one when Dr.Smith got his groove on. He was a real hep cat, daddio. ---
And they sent Judy away. unfuckingbelievable. The show lost its credibilty right there.
And they sent Judy away. unfuckingbelievable. The show lost its credibilty right there.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at September 17, 2012 11:51 AM (SO2Q8)
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Great idea. How about I read a pile of your posts and paint-dry myself to death.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:49 AM (2dn/j)
I hear the silver paint Buddy Ebsen wore in The Wizard of Oz works pretty well.
Great idea. How about I read a pile of your posts and paint-dry myself to death.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:49 AM (2dn/j)
I hear the silver paint Buddy Ebsen wore in The Wizard of Oz works pretty well.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:52 AM (tOkJB)
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Traditionally a boy becomes a man when he has to go to work. In many cultures, maturity is advanced, not retarded.
In the 70's and 80 delayed maturity was sold. The movie "Animal House" portrays and glorifies college-age adolescents.
Now it's denied maturity. Little Peter Pan never wants to grow up.
In the 70's and 80 delayed maturity was sold. The movie "Animal House" portrays and glorifies college-age adolescents.
Now it's denied maturity. Little Peter Pan never wants to grow up.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:52 AM (he2LC)
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I'm not seeing the problem with that." ---there isnt one, some people are inherently independent. this was about the only thing i disagreed with VDH on in this article.
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at September 17, 2012 11:45 AM (nVqtU
Sure there's a problem with that. Men no longer know how to treat a woman with respect that is necessary to have a successful long term relationship. Any bump in the road no matter how slight , now leads to a breakup of marriages with no stigma because that's how it was during the mating process. Hook up for sex, no strings attached, no effort needed. Frankly Iblame this on the distributor of the poontang.
Posted by: laughing at neck braces at September 17, 2012 11:45 AM (nVqtU
Sure there's a problem with that. Men no longer know how to treat a woman with respect that is necessary to have a successful long term relationship. Any bump in the road no matter how slight , now leads to a breakup of marriages with no stigma because that's how it was during the mating process. Hook up for sex, no strings attached, no effort needed. Frankly Iblame this on the distributor of the poontang.
Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2012 11:52 AM (m2CN7)
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Is it possible that conservative women are less prone to fall into the trap of voting the "feelings" things that are thrown out there all the time by the commies, but fall into the same trap when baited in such a clever and sophisticated manner by Truman North?
....maintain even heat while stirring occasionally
....maintain even heat while stirring occasionally
Posted by: ontherocks at September 17, 2012 11:53 AM (aZ6ew)
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Damn you go read drudge right now. Looks like open global war on the way. WTF? Lock and load.
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 17, 2012 11:53 AM (WY3bD)
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43 I missed Mass yesterday and am watching MSDNC as a self-imposed penance. I will not miss Mass next week.
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I have it on good authority that they play only CNN in purgatory. MSNBC in Hell.
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I have it on good authority that they play only CNN in purgatory. MSNBC in Hell.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at September 17, 2012 11:53 AM (SO2Q8)
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What. We've lost the brackets now too?
No, strike through is just the letter s. Bold is b, italics are i and underline is u. That's all we get to play with here nowadays.
What. We've lost the brackets now too?
No, strike through is just the letter s. Bold is b, italics are i and underline is u. That's all we get to play with here nowadays.
Posted by: Ed Anger at September 17, 2012 11:55 AM (tOkJB)
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Damn you go read drudge right now. Looks like open global war on the way. WTF? Lock and load.
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 17, 2012 11:53 AM (WY3bD)
It's a coming. In my humble opinion, better now than later
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 17, 2012 11:53 AM (WY3bD)
It's a coming. In my humble opinion, better now than later
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:56 AM (j1gX1)
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178, that is merely justified anger at America's long past of racism and imperialism. And President Obama carefully uses force in a bipartisan and wise manner for our own good. It's not like when that stupid cowboy from who pretended to be from Texas wanted to shoot up the entire Middle East because he thought Jesus told him to make a few billion for Halliburton and the oil companies.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 17, 2012 11:56 AM (jCQ+I)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:56 AM (he2LC)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 17, 2012 11:57 AM (2dn/j)
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Bette Midler: Charge Mohammed Filmmakers With Murder…
Oddly, no mention of the people who actually murdered four Americans in Benghazi.
Bette, baby bubbi, I've seen your show. You oughta be charged with fraud for impersonating an entertainer and women
Oddly, no mention of the people who actually murdered four Americans in Benghazi.
Bette, baby bubbi, I've seen your show. You oughta be charged with fraud for impersonating an entertainer and women
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:58 AM (j1gX1)
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Definitely OT
A few threads back, someone posted about Aussies calling US citizens "seppos"
Explanation - an old custom Down Under but sadly dying out with the oldies is the use of rhyming slang
For example - plates of meat means feet, having a Barry Crocker(a now dead Aussie TV personality), means having having a shocker of a day
So calling you a seppo in rhyming slang - Yank > septic tank> seppo - well it sort of rhymes
Nothing to do with your sewerage systems!
BTW we had our own delightful Aussie muzzies have a violent (what else) protest in the Sydney CBD last Saturday and I'm sure you've seen pics of the little boy holding that poster with that peaceful message (Behead All Those who Insult the Prophet) with mummy proudly taking a photo on her phone
We were in the city having a birthday lunch at a club right where these peaceful protesters were bashing police officers and screaming Allah Akbar and we missed it all!
A few threads back, someone posted about Aussies calling US citizens "seppos"
Explanation - an old custom Down Under but sadly dying out with the oldies is the use of rhyming slang
For example - plates of meat means feet, having a Barry Crocker(a now dead Aussie TV personality), means having having a shocker of a day
So calling you a seppo in rhyming slang - Yank > septic tank> seppo - well it sort of rhymes
Nothing to do with your sewerage systems!
BTW we had our own delightful Aussie muzzies have a violent (what else) protest in the Sydney CBD last Saturday and I'm sure you've seen pics of the little boy holding that poster with that peaceful message (Behead All Those who Insult the Prophet) with mummy proudly taking a photo on her phone
We were in the city having a birthday lunch at a club right where these peaceful protesters were bashing police officers and screaming Allah Akbar and we missed it all!
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 11:58 AM (ICsS/)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 11:58 AM (he2LC)
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Damn you go read drudge right now. Looks like open global war on the way.
It reads like the plot buildup in a Tom Clancy novel.
It reads like the plot buildup in a Tom Clancy novel.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 17, 2012 11:58 AM (vbh31)
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<< Women have been trying to pussify the men in this country for about 40 years now.>>
Feminists have, and they've succeeded, at least with their own kids.
About 10 years ago a friend and I said something to a drunk kid in his 20's that he aparently didn't like. He stormed off, drunkenly muttering, then reappeared 10 minutes later with his angry girlfriend in tow. She proceeded to harangue us about being bad people, tell us what a wonderful, sensitive guy he is, and generally bitch-shame us into submission. It took both of us a week to stop laughing. That's the modern male response ? I'm going to go get my girlfriend ?
One other observation - notice how many "kick-ass-chick" movies we've seen since the 1990's ? Starting with the "Buffy" movie, then we get TV shows, the Ultraviolets, Dominos, Resident Evils, Sucker Punch - I can't begin to list them all.
I think it has a lot to do with single-mommy households and weak (or absent) father figures. Women are the "strong horses" of the last few generations.
<< Women have been trying to pussify the men in this country for about 40 years now.>>
Feminists have, and they've succeeded, at least with their own kids.
About 10 years ago a friend and I said something to a drunk kid in his 20's that he aparently didn't like. He stormed off, drunkenly muttering, then reappeared 10 minutes later with his angry girlfriend in tow. She proceeded to harangue us about being bad people, tell us what a wonderful, sensitive guy he is, and generally bitch-shame us into submission. It took both of us a week to stop laughing. That's the modern male response ? I'm going to go get my girlfriend ?
One other observation - notice how many "kick-ass-chick" movies we've seen since the 1990's ? Starting with the "Buffy" movie, then we get TV shows, the Ultraviolets, Dominos, Resident Evils, Sucker Punch - I can't begin to list them all.
I think it has a lot to do with single-mommy households and weak (or absent) father figures. Women are the "strong horses" of the last few generations.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 11:59 AM (WLuv5)
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It reads like the plot buildup in a Tom Clancy novel.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 17, 2012 11:58 AM (vbh31)
The French gonna tow that Aircraft Carrier of their's out for show again?
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 17, 2012 11:58 AM (vbh31)
The French gonna tow that Aircraft Carrier of their's out for show again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 11:59 AM (j1gX1)
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The problem is not women voting, but that single parenthood has made so many dependent on Uncle Sam. Dependent people vote democrat and single mothers fit that bill.
The problem wasthe policies leading to so much illegitimacy.
The problem wasthe policies leading to so much illegitimacy.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at September 17, 2012 12:00 PM (SO2Q8)
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Bette Midler: Charge Mohammed Filmmakers With Murder…
The Divine Miss M should be beheaded for her butchery of Mary Rose Foster in The Rose.
The Divine Miss M should be beheaded for her butchery of Mary Rose Foster in The Rose.
Posted by: toby928© for TB at September 17, 2012 12:00 PM (QupBk)
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"You may have heard that men often think with their dicks. Women vote with their....crotches.
Posted by: Bart"
The only way I would vote like that is if Ewan McGregor ran for president, and probably not even then.
Posted by: Bart"
The only way I would vote like that is if Ewan McGregor ran for president, and probably not even then.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at September 17, 2012 12:01 PM (OFoUo)
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Bold?
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 12:02 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: the next rollercoaster at September 17, 2012 12:02 PM (IPhbB)
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In the ancient world, farming and war instilled a sense of duty and responsibility in men. Today? “Men don’t know much about farming, and few are in the military, but most know a great deal about video games,” says Hanson.
Didn't Hanson see all the occupoopers who took over a few acres of UC Berkeley property to become collectivized organic farmers?
Why, all that's needed to farm are daily lectures, work assignments, some water jugs, and someone to unload the seedlings from Home Depot
Didn't Hanson see all the occupoopers who took over a few acres of UC Berkeley property to become collectivized organic farmers?
Why, all that's needed to farm are daily lectures, work assignments, some water jugs, and someone to unload the seedlings from Home Depot
Posted by: kbdabear at September 17, 2012 12:02 PM (wwsoB)
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My older daughter is such a good conservative
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:03 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Sven10077 at September 17, 2012 12:03 PM (LRFds)
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One other observation - notice how many "kick-ass-chick" movies we've
seen since the 1990's ? Starting with the "Buffy" movie, then we get TV
shows, the Ultraviolets, Dominos, Resident Evils, Sucker Punch - I
can't begin to list them all.
The kick ass chick movies aren't as big a problem as the weak female protagonists.
The confused and weak male crap (Crime and Punishment, thinking of you) is irritating too. Ok, even Hamlet. Plenty of particularly WTF thinking.
seen since the 1990's ? Starting with the "Buffy" movie, then we get TV
shows, the Ultraviolets, Dominos, Resident Evils, Sucker Punch - I
can't begin to list them all.
The kick ass chick movies aren't as big a problem as the weak female protagonists.
The confused and weak male crap (Crime and Punishment, thinking of you) is irritating too. Ok, even Hamlet. Plenty of particularly WTF thinking.
Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 12:04 PM (MzQOZ)
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Military absentee ballot requests are off 92% this year in Virginia. In a close race this is bad news.
I can't make the link post here, but it is a current story, search "Virginia military absentee ballots"
Military absentee ballot requests are off 92% this year in Virginia. In a close race this is bad news.
I can't make the link post here, but it is a current story, search "Virginia military absentee ballots"
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 17, 2012 12:04 PM (l3vZN)
Posted by: SJP at September 17, 2012 12:04 PM (pJpLq)
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A few threads back, someone posted about Aussies calling US citizens "seppos"
Explanation - an old custom Down Under but sadly dying out with the oldies is the use of rhyming slang
Damn Cockneys are everywhere.
Do people try out new phrases and the good ones stick, or do they just go with the traditional ones? Getting a pint at the nuclear sub can't be very old.
Explanation - an old custom Down Under but sadly dying out with the oldies is the use of rhyming slang
Damn Cockneys are everywhere.
Do people try out new phrases and the good ones stick, or do they just go with the traditional ones? Getting a pint at the nuclear sub can't be very old.
Posted by: fluffy at September 17, 2012 12:05 PM (z9HTb)
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Iran atomic chief says 'explosives' cut power at facility
drudge
Posted by: the next rollercoaster at September 17, 2012 12:02 PM (IPhbB)
I believe that actually happened a while back. But it does show that bulk of the electricity for their underground facilities still comes from the surface so an EMP attack would cripple them. I am sure the Israelis are continually attacked Iran one way or another
drudge
Posted by: the next rollercoaster at September 17, 2012 12:02 PM (IPhbB)
I believe that actually happened a while back. But it does show that bulk of the electricity for their underground facilities still comes from the surface so an EMP attack would cripple them. I am sure the Israelis are continually attacked Iran one way or another
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:05 PM (j1gX1)
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The Politico article was a big nothing-burger. So there was a change of Romney's speech a week before the Convention? Oh no's! The campaign is on the ropes!
Posted by: McAdams at September 17, 2012 12:05 PM (0kf1G)
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I would take it a step further. You can only vote if you paid money to the government on your tax return.
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Heck, i'd weight the votes based on the dollars paid. People receiving more than they pay would still get to vote...but it would subtract from their candidate. Wonder how long it'd take for them to figure that out.
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Heck, i'd weight the votes based on the dollars paid. People receiving more than they pay would still get to vote...but it would subtract from their candidate. Wonder how long it'd take for them to figure that out.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at September 17, 2012 12:07 PM (SO2Q8)
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Dependency, western socialized dependency, is subtle and insidious. Alternatively described as the blue velvet glove worn over iron fist.
Marijuana use is the corollary. Too much drink; one pays the piper in spades. Too much weed; eh, pass teh bong. insidious.
2:45m youtube DS9 scene.
http://tinyurl.com/9mfhygl
Marijuana use is the corollary. Too much drink; one pays the piper in spades. Too much weed; eh, pass teh bong. insidious.
2:45m youtube DS9 scene.
http://tinyurl.com/9mfhygl
Posted by: 13times at September 17, 2012 12:07 PM (h6XiD)
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I don't know about the causes but I saw an end of the world as we know it special on some network, Discovery I think it was. They interview people as to how they would survive after a global or even national catasrophe. There were the ususal I will move into the hinterlands and grow my own food, build a cabin, etc. types. There were also those who admitted they were clueless as to any abilities to do this, so they would use violence and steal what they needed, sell it, and kill off the others. Yes, they actually admitted this, which they rationalized as," survival of the fittest baby," to quote one of the idiots. When it was pointed out that sooner or later there would be nothing left to steal, they were surprised and didn't know what to do.
I don't know about the causes but I saw an end of the world as we know it special on some network, Discovery I think it was. They interview people as to how they would survive after a global or even national catasrophe. There were the ususal I will move into the hinterlands and grow my own food, build a cabin, etc. types. There were also those who admitted they were clueless as to any abilities to do this, so they would use violence and steal what they needed, sell it, and kill off the others. Yes, they actually admitted this, which they rationalized as," survival of the fittest baby," to quote one of the idiots. When it was pointed out that sooner or later there would be nothing left to steal, they were surprised and didn't know what to do.
Posted by: Deanna at September 17, 2012 12:08 PM (ERTVE)
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226 fluffy
Those Cockneys were deported out here to our prison colony - brought there habits with them
Now our younger generations speak TV speak ,imported from the US
Those Cockneys were deported out here to our prison colony - brought there habits with them
Now our younger generations speak TV speak ,imported from the US
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:09 PM (ICsS/)
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146 It's not like if the 19th Amendment went away women wouldn't get a vote. Their husbands would be the one making it. ;-)
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screw you
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Posted by: Ellen Degneris & rosie odonnell at September 17, 2012 12:10 PM (SO2Q8)
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Now our younger generations speak TV speak ,imported from the US
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:09 PM (ICsS/)
That's weird because over here we throw a few shrimp on the barbie and host a fosters?
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:09 PM (ICsS/)
That's weird because over here we throw a few shrimp on the barbie and host a fosters?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:10 PM (j1gX1)
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 12:11 PM (he2LC)
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The children have gotten a hold of Mommy and Daddy's credit cards and
maxed them out. Hopefully, come November, they'll get an ass-whooping.
Posted by: Roy at September 17, 2012 11:19 AM (VndSC)
Nope. Mommy and Daddy will just go out and get another job/ and or put off their retirement for another 20 years. Their precious little snowflake has some hard work to do killing all those goblins in their video games.
The children have gotten a hold of Mommy and Daddy's credit cards and
maxed them out. Hopefully, come November, they'll get an ass-whooping.
Posted by: Roy at September 17, 2012 11:19 AM (VndSC)
Nope. Mommy and Daddy will just go out and get another job/ and or put off their retirement for another 20 years. Their precious little snowflake has some hard work to do killing all those goblins in their video games.
Posted by: MrCaniac at September 17, 2012 12:12 PM (1grxW)
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That's weird because over here we throw a few shrimp on the barbie and host a fosters?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:10 PM (j1gX1)
Yep, and I've met a host of twenty somethings that respond to everything with "No Worries."
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:10 PM (j1gX1)
Yep, and I've met a host of twenty somethings that respond to everything with "No Worries."
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 17, 2012 12:12 PM (9TTOe)
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Yep, and I've met a host of twenty somethings that respond to everything with "No Worries."
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 17, 2012 12:12 PM (9TTOe)
Ain Bahya
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 17, 2012 12:12 PM (9TTOe)
Ain Bahya
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:14 PM (j1gX1)
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>>>>You can only vote if you paid money to the government on your tax return.
Eh, how about eliminate 80% of the government, get rid of income tax or make it very low and perfectly flat, and leave each other alone?
I'd prefer not to participate, thank you very much. And I'd really like it if politics was left to old ladies voting on which day to have the local celebratory parades.
Eh, how about eliminate 80% of the government, get rid of income tax or make it very low and perfectly flat, and leave each other alone?
I'd prefer not to participate, thank you very much. And I'd really like it if politics was left to old ladies voting on which day to have the local celebratory parades.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:14 PM (N/1Dm)
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152 You may have heard that men often think with their dicks. Women vote with their....crotches. Kennedy, Clinton, Obama.
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They barelyaveraged 50%
try 61% bitchez
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They barelyaveraged 50%
try 61% bitchez
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 17, 2012 12:15 PM (SO2Q8)
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I'm a suburbanite Gen-Xer who grew up with Atari and Apple-IIe. But I'm now a parent, and the new video games totally leave me cold. Of course my kids like playing Wii or DS, but we're trying to keep them involved in the real world too. My 12YO spent the weekend at Girl Scout camp learning to tie knots and hiking with her friends. And I spent the weekend trying to fix my car. The damned power window failed with the window down! But the part is only $100, and I can do the work, so why not? Sure, I killed half of our landscaping this summer through neglect. And I'd probably starve to death if I were forced to grow my own food. But there are other things that I can do. And I'm a cheap enough bastard to try to do them. No car payments since '02! I've fixed some of my kids' stuff too, so hopefully they are absorbing the fact that you don't always have to just throw it away and buy a new one.
Posted by: Chris M at September 17, 2012 12:15 PM (b3vSq)
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The idea of the emasculated American reminds me of something I have noticed (or at least has drawn my attention the last few years). It seems much more common for a young man to be in the passenger seat of a car with a woman driving. "Back in my day"...I know. But really, about the only excuse for this would have been the guy was too drunk, injured, or otherwise incapacitated, and so the girl had to drive. Anybody have any stats to back this up?
The guy has become the pampered, ornamental feature of the modernrelationship, in which the girl brings the money, car, and any shred of responsibility. While this might seem superficially attractive tothe guy, it's eventually ennervating. There's only so much X-box you can play before you realize, if you have this much time for video games and music, then you really aren't that essential to anything real.Just another symptom of the death of the culture of the West.
The guy has become the pampered, ornamental feature of the modernrelationship, in which the girl brings the money, car, and any shred of responsibility. While this might seem superficially attractive tothe guy, it's eventually ennervating. There's only so much X-box you can play before you realize, if you have this much time for video games and music, then you really aren't that essential to anything real.Just another symptom of the death of the culture of the West.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at September 17, 2012 12:16 PM (Hj9yW)
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234 Nevergiveup
Goodness everytime I see your posts I remember it's time to visit the dentist!
That's weird because over here we throw a few shrimp on the barbie and host a fosters
It's globalisation - we have ketchup and Cajun cooking with a bit of NY cheesecake and baseball thrown in!
Goodness everytime I see your posts I remember it's time to visit the dentist!
That's weird because over here we throw a few shrimp on the barbie and host a fosters
It's globalisation - we have ketchup and Cajun cooking with a bit of NY cheesecake and baseball thrown in!
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:16 PM (ICsS/)
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I went to the Funeral Home that will handling my burial when the time comes. I signed up of the Libyan Drag to the cemetery and I was able to cut my bill by 75%.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:16 PM (j1gX1)
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"I missed Mass yesterday and am watching MSDNC as a self-imposed penance. I will not miss Mass next week. "
That's pretty hardcore and twisted right there.
I mean, I usually just went for the studded dog-collar inside-out around my thigh...
That's pretty hardcore and twisted right there.
I mean, I usually just went for the studded dog-collar inside-out around my thigh...
Posted by: reason at September 17, 2012 12:17 PM (q/kmn)
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Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: steevy at September 17, 2012 12:17 PM (6o4Fb)
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Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:16 PM (ICsS/)
So, like I am getting free publicity down under?
So, like I am getting free publicity down under?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:18 PM (j1gX1)
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<<I would take it a step further. You can only vote if you paid money to the government on your tax return.>>
I and most friends of mine would agree with that in a heartbeat. It's the only way to break the "democracy fails when the majority realizes it can vote itself the minority's money" trap.
But it's raaaaaacist !!!!
<<I would take it a step further. You can only vote if you paid money to the government on your tax return.>>
I and most friends of mine would agree with that in a heartbeat. It's the only way to break the "democracy fails when the majority realizes it can vote itself the minority's money" trap.
But it's raaaaaacist !!!!
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 12:19 PM (WLuv5)
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Yep, and I've met a host of twenty somethings that respond to everything with "No Worries."
My young European cousins and friends say this all the time
It's now truly international - another fine Aussie export
Yep, and I've met a host of twenty somethings that respond to everything with "No Worries."
My young European cousins and friends say this all the time
It's now truly international - another fine Aussie export
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:19 PM (ICsS/)
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>>>>>It seems much more common for a young man to be in the passenger seat of a car with a woman driving.
What is up with that? That's been a pet peeve of mine for a couple of years. How emasculating! They look like children being driven around by mommy.
What is up with that? That's been a pet peeve of mine for a couple of years. How emasculating! They look like children being driven around by mommy.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:20 PM (N/1Dm)
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Actually, the other way to break the majority vote minority money conundrum would be to get the government out of the economy business ala Ayn Rand. One man one vote isn't confiscatory if no one's looting. Frankly it's more realistic to hope for "property requirement" style solutions than Galt's Gulch, so I'll still go for "net dependent = no vote."
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 12:21 PM (WLuv5)
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Not to mention that most of these guys are sloppy fat, lacking muscle, and they wear those stupid looking droopy beanies that scream 'I have the testosterone level of a female fetus.'
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:23 PM (N/1Dm)
Posted by: goy at September 17, 2012 12:23 PM (QsFws)
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247 Nevergiveup
You're a bit too far away to have my dental stuff done however you are like a reminder system for me- read a post of yours the other day, remembered to make a appointment with my dentist who is a bit closer than you are! (Like 10,000kms)
You're a bit too far away to have my dental stuff done however you are like a reminder system for me- read a post of yours the other day, remembered to make a appointment with my dentist who is a bit closer than you are! (Like 10,000kms)
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:23 PM (ICsS/)
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In the 18th and part of the 19th century, you had to own real estate in order to vote, in some states.
The renters would riot if we tried to impose that again.
The renters would riot if we tried to impose that again.
Posted by: Bart who lurks with SMOD 2012, master of his domain at September 17, 2012 12:23 PM (he2LC)
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Gamers are taking an unfairbeating here. Consider it like social drinking vs. being a total booze-hound. I spoke with a 30-something I know the other day and he said he'd rather play games than date. That's a problem. I'm a gamer and I'm well into middle-age. Give it a proper limited place and you're OK. When it overrides your dick, get some help.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 17, 2012 12:24 PM (WLuv5)
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We have to campaign to save the very concept of individual responsibility
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (9KqcB)I know alot about individual responsibility. And ethical behavior.
Posted by: CJ at September 17, 2012 11:25 AM (9KqcB)I know alot about individual responsibility. And ethical behavior.
Posted by: Gen Colin Powell at September 17, 2012 12:24 PM (qwK3S)
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You're a bit too far away to have my dental stuff done however you are like a reminder system for me- read a post of yours the other day, remembered to make a appointment with my dentist who is a bit closer than you are! (Like 10,000kms)
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:23 PM (ICsS/)
I wonder if I can get a referral fee from your Dentist?
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:23 PM (ICsS/)
I wonder if I can get a referral fee from your Dentist?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 17, 2012 12:26 PM (j1gX1)
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Folks I lurk here a lot, pretty much have given up on HA. Allah makes me want to throw my laptop in the lake. I do not post much but read most of the comments. Starting to understand most of what I read but still having to Google some things to understand.
However I cannot understand the following.
69. Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT
Is this a real person?
Thanks
However I cannot understand the following.
69. Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT
Is this a real person?
Thanks
Posted by: LRBnSC at September 17, 2012 12:28 PM (AS8tL)
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I spoke with a 30-something I know the other day and he said he'd rather play games than date. That's a problem.
Gaming's a hell of a lot cheaper, plus no head games or nagging.
Gaming's a hell of a lot cheaper, plus no head games or nagging.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 17, 2012 12:32 PM (DrWcr)
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28 Nevergiveup
I was going to paste my answer on the ^^^thread, but you're here as well
I wonder if I can get a referral fee from your Dentist?
No harm in asking
No worries!
I was going to paste my answer on the ^^^thread, but you're here as well
I wonder if I can get a referral fee from your Dentist?
No harm in asking
No worries!
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:32 PM (ICsS/)
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Obama!
Posted by: Octomom at September 17, 2012 12:34 PM (qwK3S)
Posted by: aussie at September 17, 2012 12:34 PM (ICsS/)
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263. Aussie, thanks. Definitely do not want it ti be.
Posted by: LRBnSC at September 17, 2012 12:38 PM (AS8tL)
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What is up with that? That's been a pet peeve of mine for a couple of years. How emasculating! They look like children being driven around by mommy.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:20 PMWell in fairness I know a few young guys who let their wives or girl friends drive for many reasons...they can drink, they can be on their cells/blackberries/etc., or like my kid who is on the road for work so he likes the break.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:20 PMWell in fairness I know a few young guys who let their wives or girl friends drive for many reasons...they can drink, they can be on their cells/blackberries/etc., or like my kid who is on the road for work so he likes the break.
Posted by: Deanna at September 17, 2012 12:42 PM (ERTVE)
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>>>>>It seems much more common for a young man to be in the passenger seat of a car with a woman driving.
What
is up with that? That's been a pet peeve of mine for a couple of years.
How emasculating! They look like children being driven around by mommy.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:20 PM (N/1Dm)
It is "Cougaring" of our young men. A friend of MrsCaniac decided a few years ago that the "Cougar" lifestyle was going to be for her. She gets her "Cub", and off they go. After 2 years of him laying about the house smoking dope, playing video games, living in her house, driving her car, having her cook and clean, buy his groceries, pay for his trips, and buy him clothes, they broke up. He still hasn't gotten a job, and still smokes his dope and kills all the goblins he can in his videogames. He is 30 years old. This "kid" is the face of Obamacare.
>>>>>It seems much more common for a young man to be in the passenger seat of a car with a woman driving.
What
is up with that? That's been a pet peeve of mine for a couple of years.
How emasculating! They look like children being driven around by mommy.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2012 12:20 PM (N/1Dm)
It is "Cougaring" of our young men. A friend of MrsCaniac decided a few years ago that the "Cougar" lifestyle was going to be for her. She gets her "Cub", and off they go. After 2 years of him laying about the house smoking dope, playing video games, living in her house, driving her car, having her cook and clean, buy his groceries, pay for his trips, and buy him clothes, they broke up. He still hasn't gotten a job, and still smokes his dope and kills all the goblins he can in his videogames. He is 30 years old. This "kid" is the face of Obamacare.
Posted by: MrCaniac's at September 17, 2012 12:43 PM (1grxW)
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But the young kids I see today don’t know how to run a lawn mower
Please! They are not 'lawn mowers' and we do not 'run' them. Mexicans are our honored guests.
Please! They are not 'lawn mowers' and we do not 'run' them. Mexicans are our honored guests.
Posted by: One of the kids he's talking about at September 17, 2012 12:45 PM (b1g/X)
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I've been thinking about this subject for a while. Earlier this year I had some time to do some genealogy. Looking at census report after census report, I was struck by how many people had to actually work - physical labor - in the 1800's. Most of my ancestors arrived here before the Revolutionary War, yet they were still farmers, sailors, fishermen, sailmakers, grocers, laborers, etc in the 19th century. It seems kind of obvious now, but I was astounded to think about their lives and realize how physically hard my ancestors had to work virtually all their lives.
I think we've lost something when we fail to provide opportunities for hard work to boys and men today.
I've been thinking about this subject for a while. Earlier this year I had some time to do some genealogy. Looking at census report after census report, I was struck by how many people had to actually work - physical labor - in the 1800's. Most of my ancestors arrived here before the Revolutionary War, yet they were still farmers, sailors, fishermen, sailmakers, grocers, laborers, etc in the 19th century. It seems kind of obvious now, but I was astounded to think about their lives and realize how physically hard my ancestors had to work virtually all their lives.
I think we've lost something when we fail to provide opportunities for hard work to boys and men today.
Posted by: biancaneve at September 17, 2012 12:59 PM (6bYlh)
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Protestors at embassy in Jakarta shouting fuck America ... yeah I'd say they are mad at us.
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 17, 2012 01:08 PM (Xfofp)
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Why does not Obama have a DOUBLE DIGIT lead over Romney? The MSM traunces him everyday...hit piece after hit piece, attacked 24/7 from the left and right.....heck why is the race tied.....why has Obama not taken a 20 point lead is the better question!
Posted by: bluerose75 at September 17, 2012 01:08 PM (HDcKc)
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The 19th Amendment lost us this battle. Sorry, moronettes, but it's true.
As soon as a little more than half the electorate is female, the country will turn female.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (I2LwF)
I'd argue if I could.
The 19th Amendment lost us this battle. Sorry, moronettes, but it's true.
As soon as a little more than half the electorate is female, the country will turn female.
Posted by: Truman North at September 17, 2012 11:04 AM (I2LwF)
I'd argue if I could.
Posted by: Klawnet at September 17, 2012 01:10 PM (ndZ7+)
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"Yep, and I've met a host of twenty somethings that respond to everything with "No Worries.""
It's our problem freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
It's our problem freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...philosophyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Posted by: Pumba at September 17, 2012 01:10 PM (kZVsz)
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My car, though a "standard" four-door sedan, is a little too small for the family of four. Sure, it can get us where we need to go if needed, but the family as a whole prefers Mrs. Reason's assigned vehicle, the Suburban.
As it is Mrs. Reason's assigned vehicle, Mrs. Reason usually drives it, even when I am one of the passengers.
I am OK with this, because it means that the Passenger -> Driver Correction Chatter is reduced to near-zero.
My father-in-law is, by all accounts, a man's man. Dude knows how to fix everything in, on, and under the house, and the only thing that stops him from building everything he needs is sheer age. He is a man's man, and a guy that I look up to literally as a second father. Whenever he and his wife go anywhere, he lets her drive too. And he openly admits that it is for precisely the same reason that I give above.
Part of being a man is problem-solving. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is simply to remove yourself from an unnecessary spotlight.
As it is Mrs. Reason's assigned vehicle, Mrs. Reason usually drives it, even when I am one of the passengers.
I am OK with this, because it means that the Passenger -> Driver Correction Chatter is reduced to near-zero.
My father-in-law is, by all accounts, a man's man. Dude knows how to fix everything in, on, and under the house, and the only thing that stops him from building everything he needs is sheer age. He is a man's man, and a guy that I look up to literally as a second father. Whenever he and his wife go anywhere, he lets her drive too. And he openly admits that it is for precisely the same reason that I give above.
Part of being a man is problem-solving. Sometimes the best solution to a problem is simply to remove yourself from an unnecessary spotlight.
Posted by: reason at September 17, 2012 01:16 PM (kZVsz)
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270 because he sucks
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 17, 2012 01:17 PM (Xfofp)
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Stealing your closing paragraphs Andy, that was this election in a nutshell
Posted by: hobbes at September 17, 2012 01:21 PM (OEQY9)
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"If you receive a federal handout you should not vote."
How aboutfarm subsidies?
How aboutfarm subsidies?
Posted by: palancik at September 17, 2012 01:31 PM (hLWio)
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you're putting too much value on economics.
not to say this election isn't about the economy, because it is obviously. but parties for certain people are more about cultural identity than anything. a lot of liberals honestly have swallowed the idea that conservatives are big meanie grumpy white men and will never vote for them. there's also people for whom Obama's social liberalism makes him a lock regardless of how bad the economy is. same in reverse for a good chunk of the conservative base.
i get that places like Reason _want_ the explanation of Obama's level of support to be entirely about how large our welfare state is, because they hate the cultural side of the GOP and wish it would go away, but it doesn't explain why Democrats get a significant amount of support from super-rich people for instance.
not to say this election isn't about the economy, because it is obviously. but parties for certain people are more about cultural identity than anything. a lot of liberals honestly have swallowed the idea that conservatives are big meanie grumpy white men and will never vote for them. there's also people for whom Obama's social liberalism makes him a lock regardless of how bad the economy is. same in reverse for a good chunk of the conservative base.
i get that places like Reason _want_ the explanation of Obama's level of support to be entirely about how large our welfare state is, because they hate the cultural side of the GOP and wish it would go away, but it doesn't explain why Democrats get a significant amount of support from super-rich people for instance.
Posted by: JParker at September 17, 2012 01:32 PM (60GaT)
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"Frankly, it's a battle between an adult's view of the world and a child's. And the adults are precariously close to losing."
we aren't "close" to losing, we ARE losing.
we aren't "close" to losing, we ARE losing.
Posted by: Shoey at September 17, 2012 04:57 PM (jdOk/)
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Dead thread, but I just have to respond to "people like free stuff": in 2010 the Republicans, fueled by the Tea Party's disdain for "free" healthcare, took over the House and gained several Senate seats. If people loved "free stuff" so much, we would never have won on a platform of taking away the biggest "free" thing of all -- Ocare. Not buying this meme. It's skewed polls, period.
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John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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