Overnight Open Thread (9-16-2012)

Well I always figured October 1979 would come around again but not quite this late in 2012. Luckily our MFM has found the root cause of the problems: a YouTube video and an arrogant Morman...

Media: You Know Who's Responsible for the Media Failing? Mitt Romney That's Who

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Talk about the conservative critique-and I think it's a fair critique, the conservative critique: that all you guys in the media were talking about Mitt Romney, you should have talked about the warnings with the embassy, etc., etc. And yes perhaps we should have.  But you know who didn't allow us to do that?

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Mitt Romney.

SCARBOROUGH: Mitt Romney. If Mitt Romney had kept his mouth shut, if he had not acted like a rank amateur, if he had not embarrassed himself-and by the way internally the campaign understands they screwed up, he's moved on, they know that. But Romney got in the way of the media looking at the president, going, wha-, wha-, what happened here? How did this happen? Now, those questions are going to be asked in the coming weeks. But they weren't asked in the first 24 hours because Romney was holding this horrific, irresponsible, press conference.

Plus Is Romney Genuinely Good Or Is His Altruism Just A Habit Out of Self-Interest?

I've already thought about these questions in general (not specifically about Romney) long and hard. My answer is that no, it doesn't matter. Good is good, and we are human beings whose motives are never pure.

So I don't much care about your secret motives for doing good. I don't much care if you want accolades for your good deeds and even if you receive them. I don't care if you perform good works because you think it will get you into heaven, or that it will make your girlfriend like you better, or if you feel compelled to do good because you feel guilty if you don't.

In the end it's behavior that matters.

Sudan to Obama: No You Can't Send Marines To Secure Your Embassy,  Obama: OK

Sudan has rejected an offer by the United States to send Marines to increase security at the U.S. embassy in Khartoum, amid protesters and police clashing. The announcement Saturday follows the United States saying it was sending Marines to Sudan to bolster security at the embassy, where Sudanese police reportedly fired on protestors trying to scale the compound walls.

Disgrace in Benghazi

Mark Steyn is angry:

So, on a highly symbolic date, mobs storm American diplomatic facilities and drag the corpse of a U.S. ambassador through the streets. Then the president flies to Vegas for a fundraiser. No, no, a novelist would say; that's too pat, too neat in its symbolic contrast. Make it Cleveland, or Des Moines.

The president is surrounded by delirious fanbois and fangurls screaming "We love you," too drunk on his celebrity to understand this is the first photo-op in the aftermath of a national humiliation. No, no, a filmmaker would say; too crass, too blunt. Make them sober, middle-aged midwesterners, shocked at first, but then quiet and respectful.

The president is too lazy and cocksure to have learned any prepared remarks or mastered the appropriate tone, notwithstanding that a government that spends more money than any government in the history of the planet has ever spent can surely provide him with both a speechwriting team and a quiet corner on his private wide-bodied jet to consider what might be fitting for the occasion.

...Like I said, no novelist would contrast Chris Stevens on the streets of Benghazi and Barack Obama on stage in Vegas. Too crude, too telling, too devastating.

Taliban Destroy 7% of all USMC Harrier Jets in a Single Raid

Painful:

Insurgent fighters wearing U.S. Army uniforms breached the defenses of the main British-run air base in southern Afghanistan on Friday. Firing guns and rockets and apparently triggering suicide vests, the attackers killed two U.S. Marines and damaged or destroyed several hangars and fueling facilities. Before they were all killed or captured, the insurgents also managed to destroy six U.S. Marine Corps jet fighters and "significantly" damage two others, landing a shocking blow against NATO air power in the region.

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A Degenerate Sort of Cult

In 112AD Pliny the Younger, governor of what is now Turkey, was dealing with a new Jewish sect and was unsure how to deal with it. His letters top Emperor Trajan are some of the first outside accounts of how Christianity was practiced in the earliest days.

They also declared that the sum total of their guilt or error amounted to no more than this: they had met regularly before dawn on a fixed day to chant verses alternately among themselves in honor of Christ as if to a god, and also to bind themselves by oath, not for any criminal purpose, but to abstain from theft, robbery and adultery, to commit no breach of trust and not to deny a deposit when called on to restore it. After this ceremony it had been their custom to disperse and reassemble later to take food of an ordinary, harmless kind; but they had in fact given up this practice since my edict, issued on your instructions, which banned all political societies. This made me decide that it was all the more necessary to extract the truth by torture from two slave-women, whom they call deaconesses. I found nothing but a degenerate sort of cult carried to extravagant lengths.

I have therefore postponed any further examination and hastened to consult you. The question seems to me worthy of your consideration, especially in view of the number of persons endangered; for a great many individuals of every age and class, both men and women, are being brought to trial, and this is likely to continue.

Trajan responded:

You have followed the right course of procedure, my dear Pliny, for it is impossible to lay down a general rule to a fixed formula. These people must not be hunted out; if they are brought before you and the charge against them is proved, they must be punished, but in the case of anyone who denies that he is a Christian, and makes it clear that he is not by offering prayers to our gods, he is to be pardoned as a result of his repentance however suspect his past conduct may be. But pamphlets circulated anonymously must play no part in any accusation. They create the worst sort of precedent and are quite out of keeping with the spirit of our age.

El Camino del Rey 2010 - Now in HD

Quite possibly the scariest walkway in the world. I believe a similar video appeared several years ago here at the HQ but this one is in HD. Do not watch if heights bother you.

Star Wars vs Star Trek Pt. 1

2012-06-24-stvsw

Son of legendary sex researchers Masters and Johnson continuing their work

Minus his pants:

The married son of renowned sex researchers Masters and Johnson has been arrested for pleasuring himself in front of female undercover police officers as they passed by his exclusive summer home in Michigan.

Charged with aggravated indecent exposure, William H. Masters III, 60, was released on $5,000 bail and is facing two years in jail for the incident, which officers say was only the latest in a string of debaucherous deeds in the area.

Female officers, posing as kayakers, were part of a local sting operation investigating the 'indecent' goings on of the posh summer homes in the Pointe aux Barques.

...'A lot of law enforcement time, effort and resources have been expended over the years on this non-sense. This was not our first operation and will not be our last.'

He added that in the past two weeks alone, there have been four such incidents.

'One thing is for certain, future "free stylists" need to take note that their actions will not be tolerated,' he said.

Also no more 'free styling' for you for another two weeks.

I m participating in No Fap September. This is going _cee50a90a765d1ba598dfa698ef89ed4

Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [979 comments] 'Sven10077@svenJolafson' [137.46 posts/day]
2 [482 comments] 'steevy'
3 [450 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
4 [394 comments] 'Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks'
5 [375 comments] 'Adam'
6 [354 comments] 'Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney'
7 [353 comments] 'thunderb'
8 [353 comments] 'Vic'
9 [349 comments] 'garrett'
10 [339 comments] 'BCochran1981'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [121 names] 'Adam' [16.99 unique names/day]
2 [93 names] 'JParker'
3 [62 names] 'Dang'
4 [60 names] 'The Political Hat'
5 [53 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
6 [49 names] 'Truck Monkey'
7 [41 names] 'kbdabear'
8 [41 names] 'andycanuck'
9 [37 names] 'Cicero'
10 [34 names] 'Dr Fish, TDY to SAT for ill mom'

The group. Yeah.

Where it's at - the Twitter

Tonight's post brought to you by the earliest known photo of beer drinking:

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Taken in 1844 in Edinburgh, Scotland.

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Comments

1 Huh?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 16, 2012 06:58 PM (DoZD+)

2 Its fucking 1300!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 06:59 PM (xoPDv)

3 Foist?

Posted by: Al at September 16, 2012 07:03 PM (MzQOZ)

4 Darn, have fallen out of the Top 10 Posters. Hey does this mean I have a life beyond this place? Whoa....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 07:03 PM (gPyYF)

5 Its 1350!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 07:50 PM (+Aarq)

6 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:25 PM (6o4Fb)

7 Obama is proof that things can always get worse.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 16, 2012 09:29 PM (DoZD+)

8 I can't really be the first one to make the obvious crack about how Masters is *not* master of his domain, can I?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at September 16, 2012 09:31 PM (OvIGs)

9 Scarborough has to be boning Mika.HAS TO.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:32 PM (6o4Fb)

10 OT/

The black model Wii Us (deluxe set) are sold out just about everywhere nationwide.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 16, 2012 09:34 PM (zrpqj)

11 I'm slacking and maybe dying or at least congested....


Steevy I think Mika is boning Joe buddy.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:34 PM (LRFds)

12 4 Anna Puma,

Congrats, we all have real lives sometimes.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:36 PM (LRFds)

13
A handful of fucking camel humpers did that much damage inside the gorram wire...WTF is going on lately?

Posted by: Jaws at September 16, 2012 09:37 PM (A3yiq)

14 Now its 1530

You guys are too early...

But since i have no life HERE I AM

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 09:37 PM (eYiNi)

15 13 Sounds like the Brits had their heads up their asses.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:38 PM (6o4Fb)

16 13 Jaws,

The ROE and mission inertia. We surrendered a lot of the Intel work to local forces in the last 3 years, add in enforced deference to local data generation and interpretation and we are defacto Karzai's hatchet team.

Good ole' Chim Chim

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:38 PM (LRFds)

17 10. Same as the iphone5 but according to the fool at radio shack we'll still get ours first thing Friday

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 09:39 PM (eYiNi)

18 Scatburough....a liberal pretending to be conservative so he can get the "that conservative guy we have that shows we are balanced" paycheck from
EM ESS please let us eat more obama cock EN BEE CEE

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 09:40 PM (ovpNn)

19 O man. Fing joe. I was never happier than the day wmal dropped Scarborough after a six month failed experiment and put Chris plante back on the air.

Posted by: Person who gives unwanted advice at September 16, 2012 09:40 PM (9MyQd)

20

When the 70’s fashions came back I knew it would all end in
tears. Now our embassies are in flames, gas prices are higher than
they’ve been since Jimmy Carter. Inflation is back big time. We’re
lectured to daily about saving energy. Real unemployment is double
digits. If Obama does a prime time speech in a sweater, I’ll really start
worrying about the integrity of the time stream.



If I had the physique I had in 1979 I wouldn’t mind it so
much. But if disco comes back, I plan to riot like the Libyans supposedly
did over a film clip: With mortars, heavy machine guns and RPGs and 400
soldiers. Oh, and lots of planning.

Posted by: theCork at September 16, 2012 09:41 PM (0hpYU)

21 Its Mitt W. Bush's fault.


Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (ovpNn)

22 Dear Friends in a Box*,

I don't comment here very often, but I read the blog every day and from so doing have come to feel that I "know" you all well enough to ask the following:

This morning my 16 year old niece underwent surgery to remove a mass from her brain. Everything went well and she is resting comfortably, but she and our family are now "sweating out" the results of the biopsy.

I know there is a vast diversity of religious and philosophical beliefs amongst the Moron Horde, and so I ask that you offer up any prayers, thoughts, or positive energies you can for the recovery of this wonderful child.

Thank you.

-Nighthawk-

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* Shamelessly stolen from OSP- hope he doesn't sue.

Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (KZFV9)

23 Anna it means you are doing real work on your novel, right?

I never get to comment anymore bc I have a new baby. But I miss you guys.

Posted by: Person who gives unwanted advice at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (9MyQd)

24 Egyptian PM chimes in.I bet he likes our dirty money though.


When the prime minister was asked whether the US should make amendments to its laws governing freedom of speech and expression, he replied,"I think we need to work out something around this because we cannot wait and see this happen again."

Qandil also called on the US "to take the necessary measures to ensure insulting billions of people – one and a half billion people – and their beliefs does not happen and people pay for what they do and at the same time make sure that the reflections of the true Egyptian and Muslims is well [represented] in Western media."

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:43 PM (6o4Fb)

25 22 Nighthawk,

Oh my God I'll pray for her.

Be strong.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:43 PM (LRFds)

26 Why do so many bloggers always mate "Taliban" with a plural verb? Taliban is one thing. You wouldn't say "German Army destroy," because you don't mean German Army [soldiers] acted as individual members of the larger Army to destroy whatever; you mean the German Army, through some of its soldiers, destroyed whatever. The same is true of "Taliban": It's a singular-sounding collective noun, and, in the absence of a reason to do otherwise, it should be mated with a singular verb.

Posted by: Vermin at September 16, 2012 09:44 PM (dAIU+)

27 Off unwanted advice sock Doh! I'm rusty

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at September 16, 2012 09:44 PM (9MyQd)

28 24 Steevy,

Iront alert.

King Putt already arguably passed a precedentary step towards this...dirty little secret alert...there are more Christians on Earth than Durkas.....

Hollywood beware if you let the Muzzy Wuzzys do this Xians will destroy you.

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:45 PM (LRFds)

29
Nighthawk: You'll have my prayers.

Posted by: theCork at September 16, 2012 09:46 PM (0hpYU)

30 Thank you Sven.

Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:46 PM (KZFV9)

31 The early Christian apologist Justin Martyr (naturally, the second part of the name was given posthumously) made hay out of Trajan's answer, pointing out that if Christians were really evil and a threat to the empire, Trajan erred by ordering officials not to hunt then down, and if they were not a threat, they should not be persecuted at all.

Posted by: Grey Fox at September 16, 2012 09:46 PM (fBCu2)

32 ok I'm a lightweight gonna slam some Nyquil and go into a coma....

I may not always mayhem but when I do you can bet I am Tali Tim, stay Jihadi my firends...

//world's most explosive man

*note parody not intended as real advocacy of Jihadic Terror

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:47 PM (LRFds)

33 ...and to you too Cork.

Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:47 PM (KZFV9)

34 24
Egyptian PM chimes in.I bet he likes our dirty money though.





When the prime minister was asked whether the US should make
amendments to its laws governing freedom of speech and expression, he
replied,"I think we need to work out something around this because we
cannot wait and see this happen again."



Qandil also called on the US "to take the necessary measures to
ensure insulting billions of people – one and a half billion people –
and their beliefs does not happen and people pay for what they do and at
the same time make sure that the reflections of the true Egyptian and
Muslims is well [represented] in Western media."

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:43 PM (6o4Fb)

Translation: Give up your right to free speech first and then lets talk about Sharia Law and how we can get that rolling for you dirty americans.
The fact that this administrtion of dickshits and fuckfarts even engages in such a discussion shows how little they respect our rights in this country.So while i still have my right to free speech i would like to say:ISLAM MUHAMMAD LIBERALS AND OBAMA CAN CHEW THE BARK OFF MY BIG FAT LOG.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 09:48 PM (ovpNn)

35 But Romney got in the way of the media looking at the president, going, wha-, wha-, what happened here? How did this happen? Now, those questions are going to be asked in the coming weeks. But they weren't asked in the first 24 hours because Romney was holding this horrific, irresponsible, press conference.


Joe Scarborough and the Cast of "Morning Joe" are Incapable of Acting as Objective Reporters and Must Be Fired, Immediately

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 16, 2012 09:48 PM (UjSt7)

36 Rugged individualists of America- unite!!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at September 16, 2012 09:48 PM (dRd8x)

37 22 Prayers on the way.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:48 PM (6o4Fb)

38 Daddy is in the dog house again. Momma was yelling "weed and gay porn! weed and gay porn!" My family is so weird I'm going to have a ghost written autobiography too!

Posted by: Malia in DC at September 16, 2012 09:48 PM (EJ6V1)

39 So we are going from "it's Bush's fault" to "it's Romney's fault."

Posted by: Marie at September 16, 2012 09:49 PM (P9OJs)

40 Awww.....looks like CAC finally tied the knot.


He tweeted Mrs. CAC's pic.....http://tinyurl.com/8fjn4p7


Congratulations CAC.....a long, happy, healthy life together. Oh and maps....lots and lots of big, colorful, plaid maps!

Posted by: Tami at September 16, 2012 09:50 PM (X6akg)

41 BEIRUT - The head of Lebanon's Shi'ite terrorist group Hezbollah on Sunday called for nationwide protests against a film mocking the Prophet Mohammad, saying the United States must be held accountable for the Internet video. Western embassies across the Muslim world remained on high alert and the United States urged vigilance after days of anti-American violence.
"We call for protests tomorrow in the southern suburbs (of Beirut) at 5 o'clock," Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah said in a televised speech.

"Muslims and Christians must remain vigilant in order to refrain from sliding towards strife. Those responsible for the film, starting with the US, must be held accountable.

"All these developments are being orchestrated by US intelligence," he said, adding that the US government was using the excuse of freedom of speech in order to justify the continued broadcast of the film.

Nasrallah also called for demonstrations around Lebanon, including the southern coastal town of Tyre on Wednesday and the northern town of Hermel on Sunday....

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:50 PM (6o4Fb)

42 It's always 1700 somewhere.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread needs a cold one at September 16, 2012 09:51 PM (5J54Q)

43 Fucking Jew bastards.

Posted by: Hillary! at September 16, 2012 09:51 PM (IoNBC)

44 39
So we are going from "it's Bush's fault" to "it's Romney's fault."

Posted by: Marie at September 16, 2012 09:49 PM (P9OJs)

When the Preezy wont take responsibility you gotta blame someone.man...if this SCoaMF gets reelected, I don't even know what to say.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 09:52 PM (ovpNn)

45 Congratulations to CAC!I guess this means fewer maps??

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 09:53 PM (6o4Fb)

46 Congrats to CAC. She's lovely. Pretty dress, too.

Hope you all had a nice weekend. Ours was pretty boss.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 09:53 PM (5H6zj)

47 If I were in charge, I'd tell the Egyptians that the damage they did to the embassy will cost $2 billion a year to fix, so therefore we'll be unable to prop up their country anymore.

So freaking sick of the Egyptians. They gave us several of the 9/11 hijackers, they mutilate their women, they're a rape culture, and they're ethnically cleansing the Coptic Christians who were there first. They can take their hurt feelings and shove them straight up their ass.

Israel is more than capable of responding to their weak-ass military, so there's no longer any need for us to pay them the hush money to enforce the Camp David accords.

Posted by: Palandine at September 16, 2012 09:54 PM (g7D8V)

48 CAC: congrats!

Nighthawk: You and yours are in my prayers.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread needs a cold one at September 16, 2012 09:54 PM (5J54Q)

49 Catching up on the comments... prayers for your niece, Nighthawk.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 09:55 PM (5H6zj)

50 Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (KZFV9)

Thoughts & Prayers!

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 09:55 PM (sZTYJ)

51 I was on a flight about a year ago after Scarborough book came out and Joe and Mika were in front of me in First Class ORD-either DCA or LGA and they were All over each other. steevy for the win

Posted by: fartist at September 16, 2012 09:55 PM (NPTNl)

52 Fuck Scarborough. His criticism of Romney is one of the most idiotic, misguided criticisms that I have ever heard. It's nonsensical. This is especially true because Romney's comments were completely correct. Once again, fuck Scarborough, that Mathew Perry lookalike douche.

Posted by: Slappy at September 16, 2012 09:55 PM (LTbLf)

53 Qandil also called on the US "to take the necessary measures to ensure
insulting billions of people – one and a half billion people – and their
beliefs does not happen



If we do it right, we can make sure that these folks never have to suffer another insult in their lives.


Want to try for Door Number Two, fuck face?

Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 09:55 PM (z9HTb)

54 Prayers up, Nighthawk.

Posted by: B5D - 19K, call me Gordon Freeman at September 16, 2012 09:55 PM (qqlqB)

55 ok I'm a lightweight gonna slam some Nyquil and go into a coma....

I may not always mayhem but when I do you can bet I am Tali Tim, stay Jihadi my firends...

//world's most explosive man

*note parody not intended as real advocacy of Jihadic Terror

Posted by: Sven10077 at September 16, 2012 09:47 PM (LRFds)


A little gentle mood music for your tussin trip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3T3ouyBa4

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 09:56 PM (sZTYJ)

56

Who bombs who first? Israel or Iran?

I know Obama is doing everything he can to make sure its Iran who gets to drop it first...

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 09:56 PM (ovpNn)

57 Nighthawk, I'm praying everything comes out ok. Too young......

Posted by: Tami at September 16, 2012 09:56 PM (X6akg)

58 Nighthawk
Prayers to you and yours from me and mine

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 09:56 PM (eYiNi)

59 Awww.....looks like CAC finally tied the knot.


He tweeted Mrs. CAC's pic.....http://tinyurl.com/8fjn4p7


Congratulations CAC.....a long, happy, healthy life together. Oh and maps....lots and lots of big, colorful, plaid maps!

Posted by: Tami at September 16, 2012 09:50 PM (X6akg)


Congrats, CAC!

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 09:57 PM (sZTYJ)

60 Well, Scarborough's twitter avi makes it look like he has AIDS so I guess Mika does, too.

Even more infuriating that Scarborough, is Politico, which still commands far too much attention on our side of the aisle. I mean, it's basically a gossip magazine. We should not read it.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 09:57 PM (5H6zj)

61 Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (KZFV9)

Healing thoughts and prayers headed your way.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 09:59 PM (96M6e)

62 Congrats to CAC!

Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at September 16, 2012 10:00 PM (+r4NB)

63 Romney is a poopy-pants for saying something bad about the lightbringer Obama!

Squirrel!

LOOK! LOOK! LOOK! SQUIRREL! SQUIRREL! SQUIRREL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Rbi8symcc

Posted by: Joe Scarborough, drinking that Grape-aid at September 16, 2012 10:01 PM (sZTYJ)

64 Well, Scarborough's twitter avi makes it look like he has AIDS so I guess Mika does, too.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 09:57 PM (5H6zj)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szE_qmzavQ

Posted by: Gary Johnston at September 16, 2012 10:02 PM (sZTYJ)

65 Also, prayers for you and yours, Nighthawk.

Posted by: Country Singer (likes teh ginger ladies) at September 16, 2012 10:03 PM (+r4NB)

66 Nighthawk, you and yours are in my prayers.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 16, 2012 10:04 PM (Gk3SS)

67 Well shit. Ace is seriously pissed. Shut down previous thread.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 10:04 PM (GEICT)

68 That dead secretary in my office? Nothing to see there.

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at September 16, 2012 10:04 PM (/YJYi)

69 40 Awww.....looks like CAC finally tied the knot.

Way to go, CAC! Guess you'll be making more than maps, wink wink nudge nudge.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:04 PM (96M6e)

70 Congrats to CAC....best wishes for the future!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:05 PM (HDcKc)

71 Posted by: Person who gives unwanted advice at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (9MyQd)

Thanks for asking. Working on novel. Plus OSP's work. And I just got an idea for yet another story. Aaiieee.

Have fun with the baby, even at 3am with the toxic waste called poop.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:05 PM (CrfL3)

72 Is it a full moon, or something?

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 10:06 PM (a4CUi)

73
Goshdarnitall
Sorry Ace

Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 10:07 PM (y2Ojs)

74 Congrats again to CAC and Mrs. CAC. Many happy years ahead.

Sven, yeah a life. What a scary concept.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:07 PM (CrfL3)

75 67 Well shit. Ace is seriously pissed. Shut down previous thread.
---
Now what?

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 10:07 PM (5H6zj)

76 Prayers Nighthawk.

Posted by: Adam at September 16, 2012 10:07 PM (/YJYi)

77 Have fun with the baby, even at 3am with the toxic waste called poop


Enjoy our fine publication with the family, any time of the day.

Posted by: Poop Magazine at September 16, 2012 10:07 PM (z9HTb)

78 Nighthawk, you and your family are on my prayer list. God bless.


Posted by: Peaches is srsly pissed off at September 16, 2012 10:08 PM (kpCLl)

79 Thank you.



-Nighthawk-



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* Shamelessly stolen from OSP- hope he doesn't sue.

Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (KZFV9)

Prayers sent.

Posted by: MrCaniac at September 16, 2012 10:08 PM (1grxW)

80 As for Joe S....Is he no thinking of running for President in 2016? I mean talk about embarrassment....I would not vote for that Jerk and Phony no matter what! He is a loser and totally without honor! That clueless clown has his lips as close to Obama's backside as Pissy Matthews. Romney screwed up?? BS!! He was the only MAN to stand up while drag queen was off in Vegas lighting up the Strip! Take a long walk Joe into the Amazon and do not return...no one will ever miss you!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:08 PM (HDcKc)

81 Scarborough 2016!


You know, i think that is the first time I have ever agreed with Olberdouche when he tweeted 'HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 10:09 PM (0VipX)

82 Now what?


Some pantywaist got all butthurt about a comment. Wouldn't let it go. Ace WENT OFF. And then closed the thread.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 10:09 PM (GEICT)

83 Its too bad everybody on MSNBC is a fool. I thought Joe Scarborough had some integrity, but clearly he acts like a high school kid doing what he thinks he needs to do to get laid.

Posted by: billypaintbrush at September 16, 2012 10:09 PM (WqcDi)

84 Well shit. Ace is seriously pissed. Shut down previous thread.


Possibly the hottest NFL cheerleader I have ever seen. Bound to drive men crazy.

Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 10:09 PM (z9HTb)

85 Wee willy-billy killed Ace's buzz so... Ace Smash thread.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:09 PM (CrfL3)

86
I was on the previous thread, and it was cancelled.
I am dis-oriented, why would that occur ?

Posted by: seamrog at September 16, 2012 10:10 PM (j8bb5)

87 If Joe Scarborough seriously runs for president in 2016 it'll look like Huntsman was a major contender by comparison.

Posted by: Adam at September 16, 2012 10:10 PM (/YJYi)

88
I'm not going to let "billy" ruin my birthday!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 10:10 PM (y2Ojs)

89 I was visiting my alma mater in Newark, Delaware this weekend, and they have generic main street banners up that promote the U of DE. One of them has the words "Talent Management" with a photo of... Slow Joe.

So much irony. Thank god for alcohol.

Posted by: Doc at September 16, 2012 10:10 PM (3HsdR)

90 Happy birthday, concrete girl.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 10:11 PM (5H6zj)

91 Happy birthday Concrete Girl! Slainte!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:11 PM (CrfL3)

92 Congrats CAC!

Posted by: MrCaniac at September 16, 2012 10:11 PM (1grxW)

93 Possibly the hottest NFL cheerleader I have ever seen.

Gorgeous, yes, well, but, no elbows, so Mythbusters says: Further data required.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:11 PM (96M6e)

94
Dear Abbey,


My husband is a cheating lout and I'm sick of his philandering ways. After every assignation, and with a temper tantrum on my part, he confesses and begs me for forgiveness.


His behavior is abominable, and most unfortunately, many of our friends, relatives, and a large number of others know of his unconscionable behavior.


We have a large network of like-minded friends and co-workers, but the embarrassment of his behavior has become unbearable. Our vows were for fidelity and honor, but he no longer seeks my favors for physical comfort, and I suspect the reason is because I'm a lesbian.


Regards,

Frustrated


Dear Frustrated,


You are trapped in a loveless marriage, and now that you are the Secretary of State, you need to divorce him and move on to a more compatible relationship with the person of your choice.


With Understanding,


Abbey

Posted by: Anonymous at September 16, 2012 10:12 PM (ndqJC)

95 I'm not going to let "billy" ruin my birthday!


You know what would make this the bestest birthday ever? If you told the ONT what that mash-cat thingy is.

Posted by: fluffy at September 16, 2012 10:12 PM (z9HTb)

96 The guy to the far right in the picture looks like, er, Han Solo.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 16, 2012 10:12 PM (2WFxS)

97 how does ed koch feel now?

Posted by: vizzy at September 16, 2012 10:12 PM (c/tBt)

98 I watched the previous thread blow up. You could see it coming.

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at September 16, 2012 10:12 PM (nw0Vt)

99 Geraldo going all Capone Vaultish about the video.

Posted by: osu at September 16, 2012 10:12 PM (vgMWF)

100 "billy" get off this damn thread. Take the night off. You fuck the ONT and people will hunt you down.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 10:13 PM (GEICT)

101 Congratulations, CAC and Mrs. CAC (who is stunning!)!

Posted by: Peaches is srsly pissed off at September 16, 2012 10:13 PM (kpCLl)

102 Nighthawk. prayers sent.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:13 PM (UljOc)

103 Morning Joe barely has 200,000 viewers....talk about irrelevant! I mean who watches that boredom? If you went on the street and ask 100 people who Joe Scarborough is you would have the deer in the headlights look the whole time. He is a nothing and nobody!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:13 PM (HDcKc)

104
When the prime minister was asked whether the US should make amendments to its laws governing freedom of speech and expression, he replied,"I think we need to work out something around this because we cannot wait and see this happen again."


Well, PM Goat Humper, file an application to turn your festering bunghole of a country into a gigantic bowl of glowing glass and we'll put your request into our PDQ queue...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 16, 2012 10:13 PM (pmDdf)

105
pelosi is a scrunt
and I am still banned from rcp
fer sayin so

Posted by: vizzy at September 16, 2012 10:13 PM (c/tBt)

106 If Joe Scarborough runs for president in 2016, i am going to take a month off during the primaries and follow his short yellow campaign bus around and heckle the fuck out of him at every appearance he does.

Of course if this left leaning dickshit who pretends to be a conservative rhino is thinking of running, that certainly explains his stupid critique of Romney.

It makes it pretty damn hard for him to run of Romney wins.



Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 10:14 PM (ovpNn)

107 Oh shit.. what happened in the previous thread?? Dammit.. I swear I always miss this shit.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:14 PM (UljOc)

108 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 16, 2012 10:14 PM (JMmQ9)

109 108 Oh shit.. what happened in the previous thread?? Dammit.. I swear I always miss this shit.



See #83

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 10:15 PM (GEICT)

110 jewells45, you didn't miss much. Stupidity followed by a thread-dump.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:16 PM (96M6e)

111 evening AltonJackson.. how have you been?

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:16 PM (UljOc)

112 Hash in question is xXI4q.

Posted by: Y-not at September 16, 2012 10:16 PM (5H6zj)

113 More racism against our beloved President and his multiracial wisdom. Such right-wing hate holds America back and keeps you held hostage to the Wall Street machine, the "international bankers" if you take my meaning, and illegal Republican wars against brown people.

Lay that aside and support your President, especially against that creepy Mormon.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at September 16, 2012 10:16 PM (s1XiY)

114 You people have no idea what you are talking about. Joe Scarborough is one of the 100 most influential people in the world!

Posted by: TIME editorial board at September 16, 2012 10:16 PM (/YJYi)

115 Ace had to kill the thread. Billy was warned and wouldn't listen.

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at September 16, 2012 10:17 PM (nw0Vt)

116 #YouJustPulledAnObama if you spent more money sealing your transcripts than you did on your education.

Posted by: sTevo at September 16, 2012 10:17 PM (VMcEw)

117 >Oh shit.. what happened in the previous thread?? Dammit.. I swear I always miss this shit.


somebody didn't like the cheerleader pic

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2012 10:17 PM (8sCoq)

118 Was it a regular or a newbie that fucked up the thread?

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:17 PM (UljOc)

119 My best wishes for your niece's full recovery, Nighthawk.

wtg CAC and new spouse! Now back to work on those great electoral maps.

fwiw, those Harriers cost around $23 million per copy.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2012 10:17 PM (ccXZP)

120 Who the fuck is Billy?

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:18 PM (UljOc)

121 Wait, CAC got hitched? Mazel tov!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 16, 2012 10:18 PM (Gk3SS)

122 119 my read was someone with a history, but not a regular

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:18 PM (96M6e)

123 Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (KZFV9
-----

Done and done. Praying for the best and for strength to handle the wait.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 10:18 PM (0VipX)

124 GnuBreed re: Harriers. Getting that South Vietnam vibe. Was it Phu Cat or Da Nang where mortars wrecked jets?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:19 PM (CrfL3)

125 somebody didn't like the cheerleader pic

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2012 10:17 PM (8sCoq)


Look, the Ohio State chick is just hotter.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 10:19 PM (/D7/G)

126 hangin' in, jewells

how 'bout you?

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 16, 2012 10:19 PM (JMmQ9)

127 Shorter JoeMika: You made us rape you. You just stood there in that slutty way with all your conservatism hanging out. Why did you make us do that to you?

Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2012 10:20 PM (xSegX)

128 WOW....just saw a brutal NEW AD from Romney here in Central Floridaon HGTV..The ad is Called "Daughter"...He slams Obama's Policies for their effect on WOMEN in the workplace and economic status. I was impressed...Never seen that one before and never new anything about it. This is a nice ad....goes right at women and how many women Obama has caused to lose jobs and incomes....Very Nice!! This is what I like to see! Cuts right at Obama's allegedly being for women! More Mitt!This must be a Swing State Ad....

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (HDcKc)

129 I was lurking the other thread... Someone mentioned that Asians have pointy elbows, as if that's a bad thing, and this Bill dude was sad. Then he became mad and wanted to use the "N" word to get back at the elbow elites.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (cq3QL)

130 2016 baby. 2016!

Posted by: Morning Joe at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (ECYvo)

131 Latest PPP poll of VA just out...

1021 LV MOE 3

Barry 51 , Romney 46

D 35 R 32 I 33

Romney leads Independents by 2.

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (Jk+oU)

132 Let's talk football!!! Speaking of which, I love my job

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (/izg2)

133 Was it Phu Cat or Da Nang where mortars wrecked jets?


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:19 PM (CrfL3)
Bien Hoa had Skyraider's from VNAF, and USAF lost F-105's to mortar fire in 1966. Don't recall the number of strikes?

Posted by: Dr Fish, TDY to SAT for ill mom at September 16, 2012 10:22 PM (ndqJC)

134 119 my read was someone with a history, but not a regular

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:18 PM


I'm very regular. Every morning at 9:07 I....oh wait that's not what you're talking about. Stand up, Chuck er ah.....

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 16, 2012 10:22 PM (JMmQ9)

135 What really killed the thread.....

http://tinyurl.com/ccrf7gw


'Fap-free'.....they never, never listen :-(

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 10:22 PM (0VipX)

136 Trajan's policy looks like modern counter-insurgency doctrine ...

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 10:23 PM (ytax8)

137 Does that mean i don't get the cheerleader in the last post when my wife sobers up and dumps me?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 10:23 PM (OApiq)

138 Doin ok here Alton. Getting slammed at work right now, but other than that pretty good.

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:23 PM (UljOc)

139 Alright folks, the wife is wandering the house in nothing but a short robe. Gnight, Godspeed and good luck.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 10:24 PM (GEICT)

140 Thanks troll. Glad to see Romney is leading in VA, but we knew that.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 10:24 PM (dX4hn)

141 I'm still mad at you billy...you ruined it for ACE.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 10:24 PM (y2Ojs)

142 134. Just means you need to ref more little girl soccer
For the children of course

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 10:24 PM (OApiq)

143 Pass the mindbleach, 136 Joe Biden.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:25 PM (96M6e)

144 ban's already submitted, Billy.

You were not upset about the silly Asian jokes. You were upset about the INJUSTICE THAT BURNS IN YOUR HEART that you can't use the black jokes you want to.

I'm sick of explaining it. I'm sick of having to explain to people that all the little racists will come out of the woodwork within five minutes to get in their awesome "Watermelon" and "monkey" "puns."

I've told you to let it go. You won't. the INJUSTICE of it just burns in your heart too hot.

Since you will never get over it, and I'm tired of having the same argument with you KKK whiners, you're gone.

Posted by: ace at September 16, 2012 10:25 PM (fxHyG)

145 Wait, CAC got hitched? Mazel tov!


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Please? at September 16, 2012 10:18 PM (Gk3SS)



Holding my breath waiting for AtC to do the Stompy Boot happy dance!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 10:25 PM (/izg2)

146 From the last thread:

221
It's my birthday and I want to have FUN!
Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 09:46 PM (y2Ojs)


I was all set to wish concrete girl a Happy Birthday and the thread got nuked.

So Happy Birthday, concrete girl!

Now what's that "mash-cat" thing about? You've piqued my curiosity.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 10:25 PM (sdi6R)

147 Thanks troll. Glad to see Romney is leading in VA, but we knew that.

You know, this is just boring now. Bringing a PPP poll? This guy isn't even trying anymore.

Let's stick to talking about the cheerleaders. The Ohio State chick was hotter.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 10:26 PM (/D7/G)

148 141. Sigh
Always, fucking always...
PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 10:26 PM (OApiq)

149 Ah shit. Ace or a cob on the ONT is no good.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 10:26 PM (GEICT)

150 Wasn't it a sapper attack on an airbase that made LBJ decide to send large numbers of US troops?

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:26 PM (6o4Fb)

151 Wonder Twin Kawaii Powers activate! Form of!!!!
http://www.kittyhell.com/2010/07/31/hello-kitty-biker-girl/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:27 PM (CrfL3)

152 you know how I knew you weren't on the level, KKK faggit?

Because instead of taking it up with the commenters who made the comments, you immediately sprang to getting me involved.

Because your REAL problem is that *I* won't let you say the troglodytic stuff you'd like to.

Your problem wasn't with the comments; that was transparently false from the get-go.

But you're a passive-aggressive little whiny bitch who can't even be honest about his actual complaint, and I have NO TIME.

Goodbye.

Posted by: ace at September 16, 2012 10:27 PM (fxHyG)

153 Banhammer has fallen

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 16, 2012 10:27 PM (a4CUi)

154 Barry 51 , Romney 46 | D 35 R 32 I 33 | Romney leads Independents by 2.

(a) D+3 in Virginia? Sure, OK.
(b) So how does Obama get +5 when Romney is up among Indies and the split is almost even? The only answer is that all the Republicans they polled are David Frum.

Some of us can do math.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2012 10:27 PM (xSegX)

155 hi all
Nighthawk best of wishes to your niece and your family

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 10:27 PM (d/5qf)

156
Nevertheless, Go Niners!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 10:28 PM (y2Ojs)

157 146. Ace is on the ONT?!!!!

****puts pants on*****

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 10:28 PM (OApiq)

158 Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (Jk+oU)

LOL. i live in what is considered a 'purple' part of VA. Romney signs everywhere. I haven't seen an Obama 2012 sticker yet.

Thankfully VA is going to again be as red as the discharge in your undies after a night of 'experimenting.'

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 10:28 PM (0VipX)

159 Ace,

is there a picture of you online?

I want to photoshop you with a burning head.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 10:28 PM (ovpNn)

160 Why is it so hard for some people to understand that when you are in someones house you obey the rules of said house?

Posted by: jewells45 says Romney wins in a landslide at September 16, 2012 10:28 PM (UljOc)

161 Uh oh.

Billy showed up. Ace is pissed.

I see another thread going bye bye!

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at September 16, 2012 10:28 PM (nw0Vt)

162 On the positive side, I have to imagine that OWS's new "formal attire" policy will be good for business at Gentleman's Wearhouse.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:30 PM (96M6e)

163 159. Which would be wise since im in a home depot parking lot

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 16, 2012 10:30 PM (OApiq)

164
LOL, not even PPP can weight it anymore so Obama wins Independents?
Note that PPP had O+5 last month, so this is in fact a status quo result.

Posted by: AussieMarcus at September 16, 2012 10:30 PM (EwxYH)

165 First rule of holes: When in one, stop effin' digging.

Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:30 PM (nK2Sx)

166 Once again...Happy Birthday concrete girl!!! I'll drink to that!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 10:30 PM (/izg2)

167 I knew something was up when I got here and caught a faint whiff of ozone and heard the barely perceptible hum of the TB3K...

and also, I denounce myself for the Biden sock comment

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 16, 2012 10:30 PM (JMmQ9)

168 Not that I need to repeat it, but just to get it off my chest...

Romney's response to the Cairo tweet was correct. It was timely. It was not a mistake. It was clearly devastating, given the immediate attack it produced.

It was also effective because it forces people to evaluate Romney against Obama in this context, instead of allowing last week to be the Obama show. If he hadn't made the statement, he would have been ignored for a week, exactly like Obama and the MSM wanted.

Much like Mediscare, this didn't work out like they expected. The people claiming this "hurt Romney" are the people who are wish him the most harm. They don't offer an objective opinion.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 10:31 PM (dX4hn)

169 Billy - get your own blog!

Posted by: iamahaiangttiam at September 16, 2012 10:31 PM (nw0Vt)

170
142, Dave I love when the trolls bring in PPP....LOL!! PPP releases a Poll every Sunday Evening with Voters from the weekend...slants Dems...then they oversample women....lol....then they oversample youth votes and then try to hide the slant of Independents....lol! It is their new meme...last Sunday it was the PPP Ohio Poll where they slanted 60 percent female to 40 percent male...PPP just never stops with the games....They will NEVER show Mitt ahead because if I oversample women and 18-30 yr olds Obama will always be up and if I also poll on weekends Obama will always be up as well...Welcome to PPP!! Those Numbers are BS!! But then that is why RCP keeps the (D) after PPP....for DO NOT FALL FOR THIS CRAP!!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:31 PM (HDcKc)

171 #152, Gulf of Tonkin Incident. Allegedly North Vietnamese torpedo boats staged an attack on the US destroyer USS Turner Joy and one other ship. Congress pass the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. And after that it was LBJ selecting outhouses to get bombed while McNamara gradually escalated things, allowing North Vietnam to build a killer air defense network.

Irony being USS Turner Joy was named after the US Navy admiral who negotiated the Armistice with North Korea. He got an up close and personal look at Asian communist negotiating tactics. The captured US Jeeps they had to use still had fresh blood on them. When they sat down across from the North Koreans they found the chair legs shorter so they had to look up at the North Koreans. And when discussion turned to a specific portion of the battle line, that was where North Korea would attack; eventually the Allied negotiators started calling those sectors to warn them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:31 PM (CrfL3)

172 Guys, I'm for messing with the trolls as much as anybody, but we should at least require a minimum standard. If you're going to get everybody involved in a big debate, you should at least put some work into it--not show up here with a PPP poll.

This isn't even worth anybody's time; otherwise, we'll just encourage him to be lazy.

So, about the cheerleaders...

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 10:31 PM (/D7/G)

173 Romney leads Independents by 2.

Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (Jk+oU)

I live in Virginia, and if Romney leads among Independents, he wins, PERIOD.

Posted by: MrCaniac at September 16, 2012 10:32 PM (1grxW)

174
Wasn't it a sapper attack on an airbase that made LBJ decide to send large numbers of US troops?

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:26 PM (6o4Fb)

LBJ committed the 25th Infantry piecemeal to various locations, but ultimately the majority were at Cu Chi located about 35 clicks NNW of Saigon. The famous tunnels were located under the division, and operated underground throughout the division's tenure at Cu Chi.

Posted by: Dr Fish, TDY to SAT for ill mom at September 16, 2012 10:32 PM (ndqJC)

175 168-No, you dig up, stupid.

Posted by: Vermin at September 16, 2012 10:32 PM (dAIU+)

176 You should also follow the parody account @ppppolling on Twitter. Like Gerg, only intentionally.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2012 10:32 PM (xSegX)

177 171@Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 10:31 PM (dX4hn)

Agreed. I heard nothing the least bit objectionable in Romney's statement.

Posted by: Hillary! at September 16, 2012 10:33 PM (IoNBC)

178 I was in VA and I saw a bumper sticker with a picture of a dog that said "I bark for Barack".

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at September 16, 2012 10:33 PM (9MyQd)

179 Good grief. Socking is hard.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 10:33 PM (IoNBC)

180 Concerning the previous cheerleader thread: Without a view of her elbows, I am withholding judgement.

Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:33 PM (nK2Sx)

181 Does PPP have any wild guesses about how California will go?

Posted by: Peaches is srsly pissed off at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (kpCLl)

182 No Billly that cannot be. I have it on good authority that noone hates Asians. Must have dreamt that bit about sending the note to school that said if that little shit tells my son his mother is no better than an N my boy will have my permission to beat him until he is pulled off.
If you have never posted anything antiblack, you have no reason to appologize. And BCockring can suck my balls.


Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (pjT+p)

183 Billy, were you shocked that on an amateur website there isn't a 24/7 staff to moderate threads to your satisfaction?

Fuck off. I don't believe you. This was just you trying to stir some shit because you feel INJUSTICE.

Posted by: ace at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (fxHyG)

184 wow, looks like it's going to be one of "those" ONTs

happy birthday concrete girl! and happy nuptials CAC

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (d/5qf)

185 PPP....how is Barrett doing as Governor of Wis? Hey PPP I thought Akin was up right after his "Rape Comment" hey PPP I thought Obama was up 1 in NC...hey PPP I thought that the Marriage Amendment would not pass in NC?? Oh that is right that is your track record over the last three months...but keep trying PPP!! You are the laughing stock of the Polling Community!

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (HDcKc)

186 For the gamers - is 'Dead Island' worth playing?

And Happy Birthday concrete girl!

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 10:35 PM (0VipX)

187 174 I know that but I'm pretty sure large units were in country already for (base security".

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:35 PM (6o4Fb)

188 happy birthday concrete girl! and happy nuptials CAC
Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (d/5qf)

Ditto.

(Man, that was lazy.)

Posted by: eman at September 16, 2012 10:35 PM (Wp4rQ)

189 So what Joe Scabrous is saying is that by saying the right thing, he made it impossible for the media to do their job because - horrors! - they'd have to ADMIT HE WAS RIGHT?



Posted by: JEM at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (o+SC1)

190 Prayers on the way Nighthawk.

Posted by: Countrysquire at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (xNksW)

191 Without a view of her elbows, I am withholding judgement.

On this, I think everyone can agree.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (96M6e)

192 Nip it, nip it in the bud Andy.

Posted by: Barney at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (hWB6v)

193 Prayers Nighthawk.
As another Bible-related thing- who cares about motive when good is being done? Whether the reward is earthly or heavenly is between the altruist and God. For those who are cynical of motive perhaps Titus 1:15 applies-To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

On the other hand, I'd love to see Barack be rewarded for his works in this life. I'm selfish that way.

Posted by: Clinging, but not bitter at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (kAbKT)

194 The president is [...] cocksure
___
Damn straight he is!

Posted by: Kal Penn at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (AUeaU)

195 Evening non-fappers!

Ya know, having given up pro football for dead really frees up my Sundays. Lifted, cleaned the house, and went back to the wine festival to retrieve the wallet I left there yesterday. While sick with some horrible toddler disease.

Got SNF on, but I keep rewatching faith hill in that sweater dress. They should give her back the stomps boots though.

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 16, 2012 10:37 PM (CJwi5)

196 Tell me how PPP has NC...Obama up 1 but Ras and Local Station in NC has Romney up by 6 and 4 respectively? All in the same week? Masterful....Tell me PPP how is it that ARG has Ohio 48/47 Obamaand Ras has Ohio 47/46 Obama but you have Obama up by 5? All in the same week?

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:37 PM (HDcKc)

197 Barry 51 , Romney 46 | D 35 R 32 I 33 | Romney leads Independents by 2.

(a) D+3 in Virginia? Sure, OK.
(b) So how does Obama get +5 when Romney is up among Indies and the split is almost even? The only answer is that all the Republicans they polled are David Frum.

Some of us can do math.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 16, 2012 10:27 PM (xSegX)


Obviously it's because Obama will get 110% of the Dems!

Posted by: Public Pollin Poseurs at September 16, 2012 10:37 PM (sZTYJ)

198 Posted by: Romneylosesbig at September 16, 2012 10:21 PM (Jk+oU)

Jk+oU is that idiot 'toldyaso' troll. Pay it no mind.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 10:37 PM (yx6fZ)

199 A US Marine division landed in 1965 in South Vietnam to help provide air base security. Before that it was predominately MACV and SF helping the Republic of Vietnam.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:37 PM (CrfL3)

200 Scarborough is painful to watch

it's not even anything he says, really...it's been consistent since he was Mr. Average Joe Conservative on "Scarborough Country" and in his new role as Mr. Moderate, i can't watch him talk, the way he presents himself is just cringe-inducing.

Posted by: JParker at September 16, 2012 10:38 PM (8HhF2)

201 Firing guns and rockets and apparently triggering suicide vests, the
attackers killed two U.S. Marines and damaged or destroyed several
hangars and fueling facilities. Before they were all killed or captured,
the insurgents also managed to destroy six U.S. Marine Corps jet
fighters and "significantly" damage two others, landing a shocking blow
against NATO air power in the region.
***
Heh, remember when the State Media cared about Al Qaa Qa?

I bet this will get little discussion.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2012 10:38 PM (AUeaU)

202 202 That's what I meant.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:38 PM (6o4Fb)

203 Wow. Step away for a few minutes and people are having birthdays, gettin' hitched, havin' babies and pissing ace off.

Happy birthday concrete girl!

Congrats CAC!

Congrats elizabethe!

Not sure how to respond to the other drama...

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at September 16, 2012 10:38 PM (OvIGs)

204 So Romney spent all that untold time, money, and energy doing great things to help people much less fortunate than him for the sole purpose of furthering his political career? Oh for fuck's sake.

Posted by: Adam at September 16, 2012 10:39 PM (/YJYi)

205 I'm still chuckling over the PPP poll. Romney is leading Ind in a D+3 poll, but losing by 5. That means the found more Republicans voting for Obama than Democrats voting for Romney. Doesn't pass the laugh test.

They mucked around with the enthusiasm numbers after the demographic split and salted with a women over-sample, is my guess.

This is like the Ohio poll they put out at the request of Obama almost two weeks ago. Ohio +5 for Obama, but once you reweight the sample it is Romney +3.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (dX4hn)

206 Does PPP have any wild guesses about how California will go?

Posted by: Peaches is srsly pissed off at September 16, 2012 10:34 PM (kpCLl)


Obama will get 67 of California's 55 electoral votes, plus a few more bonus electoral votes for being so dreamy...

Posted by: Public Polling Poseurs at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (sZTYJ)

207 Jenny @ 206 - Tranquilizer dart gun?

Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (nK2Sx)

208 'Fap-free'.....they never, never listen :-(
Posted by: RWC

People, get it right already. Ace is still waxing the dolphin. He's sworn off the internet pron portion of the proceedings is all, due to the ever increasing time suck. Do you really think he would go cold turkey and risk the wrath of the ghosts?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (ZpJso)

209
For all that are interested:
Mash-Cat = One of those times you are extremely hung down
Sorry there is no sexual reference *this one time* Dagnabbit.
PS "Billy" .... Ace doesn't need me to fight his battles because he is a HE-MAN...
Butalthough it'snice to know you are married,grow up and let it go. No one was denigrating your wife.
Or anyone. I'm Sicilian. Do I care if someone says "Wop?" No....
If you want to hang around with us on my birthday, just watch the game.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (y2Ojs)

210 I bet this will get little discussion.

If the narrative doesn't fit,
you must ignore it.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (96M6e)

211 If you haven't followed PPPPollling on twitter. It's a hilarious parody of PPP.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 10:41 PM (ETWo2)

212 Ace , in case youre reading, thanks for recommending the crying of lot 49 a few weeks ago. I had it laying around the house and my mom picked it up and said she really liked it.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at September 16, 2012 10:41 PM (9MyQd)

213 PPP. My polling firm of choice.

Posted by: Markos Moulitsas at September 16, 2012 10:42 PM (ECYvo)

214
If the narrative doesn't fit,

you must ignore it.
___
Come on man. ACQUIT!

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at September 16, 2012 10:42 PM (AUeaU)

215 Adam @ 207 - Yeah, and as part of his dastardly plan, he never publicized this.

Tell me, how much charity work has TFG done?

Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:42 PM (nK2Sx)

216 If you haven't followed PPPPollling on twitter.
___
I once did PPPPolling. I couldn't walk for a week.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 16, 2012 10:42 PM (AUeaU)

217 Jenny @ 206 - Tranquilizer dart gun?
Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:40 PM (nK2Sx)
-----------------------

I'd love one, but I'm driving.

Oh. You meant to shoot at people getting all het up. Well it seems unfair that they should have all the fun, but I guess it's worth a shot.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at September 16, 2012 10:43 PM (OvIGs)

218 197 The president is [...] cocksure
___
Damn straight he is!
Posted by: Kal Penn at September 16, 2012 10:36 PM (AUeaU)


So to speak.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 10:43 PM (sdi6R)

219 First I want to say, we need to be more sensitive to the feelings of muslims.

Second, I would like to point out how humane they are, it is documented fact that when they are chopping off hands and feet they often use a local anesthetic in saudi arabia. I am not 100% if you get your hand back as a keepsake ashtray or not...but i have heard rumors.

Now, while they do not use a local anesthetic when performing a beheading, since no one has ever complained that it was too painful afterwards, so we have to give them a pass on that one.




Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 10:43 PM (ovpNn)

220 You guys ever take this Political quiz?

http://www.t___roseclose.com/calculate-your-pq/


My score;
Here’s your PQ: 1.8
Politicians with similar PQs are:
Michele Bachmann (R-Minn, 2007-09) PQ=-4.1
James DeMint (R-S.C. 1999-2009) PQ=5.1
Newt Gingrich (R-Ga., 1979-94) PQ=11.4


Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2012 10:43 PM (AUeaU)

221 Come on Ace! Just one time!!! Let me label those people for what they are!!!


Dammit man, did I mention that one time someone said "flied lice" to my wife?

Posted by: Willy Quiznos at September 16, 2012 10:44 PM (cq3QL)

222 rWC, I'm in deep blue Va (falls church) and there a re few Obama signs about

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 10:44 PM (kdfQ/)

223 Hmm, looks like Minx ate the url - try this tinyurl;

http://tinyurl.com/6qmvl9f

Posted by: 18-1 at September 16, 2012 10:44 PM (AUeaU)

224 I see that I am working my way up the sock list. I need to get to work SOON.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (jucos)

225 Well, it's off to bed for me- back to the salt mines tomorrow.

Thank you all for your kind words, thoughts, and prayers for my niece.

And in the immortal words of Lt. Col Frank Slade, USA (Ret) "RomneyIsLoosingBig, Billy, if you;re out there...FUCK YOU!"

Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (KZFV9)

226 204 haven't you heard ... the war on terror is over.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (vzfrq)

227 Dear (cq3QL), AmeriDan. If you want to get on Ace's last nerve, go for it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (CrfL3)

228 159 146. Ace is on the ONT?!!!!

****puts pants on*****
Posted by: navycopjoe

Pfft, hide your garbage!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (ZpJso)

229 I am not 100% if you get your hand back as a keepsake ashtray or not..
___
We stick a poll in it. The best back scratcher in the world infidels!

Posted by: Some Saudi Hand Chopper at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (AUeaU)

230 Incidentally, I love PPP's new Massachusetts poll showing Warren up even when the consensus (including among Democrats) is that she's running a crappy (if well-funded) campaign and that her ads suck.

Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (ECYvo)

231 Tell me, how much charity work has TFG done?

Is this a joke?

Posted by: George Obama, Burning Sticks in a Mud Hut at September 16, 2012 10:45 PM (IoNBC)

232 All. Relax and chill out.

As strange at is sounds, Romney is not “struggling to stay even.” Most of the battleground states are traditional Repub turf, and O has yet to break 50% in any battleground state poll, even those with a tremendous skew towards D.

Everyone is waiting for O to be crushed, putting the onus on R to do it after nominating Ryan. Why not think about it another way–that O has yet to break 50% in any battleground state, and even in MI he can’t do that. Polls in mid Sept that are within the margin of error are just that–within the margin of error. Not exactly the place to be as an incumbent, and his campaign, which only won in the past due to a severe financial crisis in 2008 and personal attacks in 2006, is doing the only thing they can do–deflect and spin. They don’t know how to do anything else. So where is the “Obama campaign in trouble” talk?

Great piece in the NYT today, discussing Iowa. It is a microcosm of the election in general. Everyone is disgusted with O, especially those who voted for him last time. The one guy is the piece who supported O is only doing it because “he doesn’t want O to fail.” That’s it–no other reason, no other policy decision. If that’s the best O can do, it’s not going to be enough.

We don’t want R to be complacent. Maybe all of this armchair quarterbacking from the same crowd who didn’t like R in the primaries will help. One thing, though, all you Joe Scarbouroughs, there is one thing we all have to do–kick O out of office on his butt. The Repubs could nominate a rotten banana, and you all better get out there and vote.

This is about turning a lightweight far left egomaniac out of office before he can do any real, lasting damage. It isn’t so much about who is running against him.

Hopefully nobody ever, ever forgets that.

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 10:46 PM (RE+1w)

233 Thanks Jenny.

It's a lot of weirdness the past week or two. I agree.

Congrats to cac and happy beat concrete girl.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at September 16, 2012 10:46 PM (9MyQd)

234 there a re few Obama signs about

Obama signs are like weeds. You have to pluck them out before they spread.

Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 10:46 PM (ECYvo)

235 Tell me, how much charity work has TFG done?

___
Hey I talk to you bitter clingers like every month.

Ungrateful bastards.

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 16, 2012 10:47 PM (AUeaU)

236
Dave that PPP poll from Ohio came out last Sunday....that is PPP's new meme...Swing State Poll later in evening on Sunday so it will talked about first thing in the morning and of course Obama is up...LOL!! The 60/40female to malesplit of the PPP poll in Ohio has to take the cake for me!! I am guessing that in VA PPP has women/youth way oversampled and notice always done on weekends!

But I am sure we will be told VA is turning to Obama tomorrow all morning! based on the Daily Kos/PPP (D) poll....lol!

Dave by chance did you see the new Romney ad called "Daughter" it aired here in Orlando tonight and it was awesome! Never seen before and it went right at Obama over women and the economy! Out in Brevard you may have seen as well? I hope Mitt runs more ads like this.

Posted by: bluerose75 at September 16, 2012 10:47 PM (HDcKc)

237 In Barack Obama's world, charity means what you give him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:47 PM (CrfL3)

238 Birthday happy birthday concrete girl. I hate iPhone commenting.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at September 16, 2012 10:48 PM (9MyQd)

239

Mika Brzezinski

Is a name

That does not Haiku



Burma Shave

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at September 16, 2012 10:48 PM (sJTmU)

240 Apparently "#LizCheneysGlobeHas " is trending on Twitter. Anyone know to what this is refering?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 16, 2012 10:48 PM (sZTYJ)

241 #230: I hear ya. Was aiming for Billy's nerves, but I could see thatmissing the target. I'll be good. :-)

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 10:49 PM (cq3QL)

242 OT the movie "Loopers" looks retarded.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:49 PM (6o4Fb)

243 This is about turning a lightweight far left
egomaniac out of office before he can do any MORE real, lasting damage. It
isn’t so much about who is running against him.



Hopefully nobody ever, ever forgets that.

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 10:46 PM (RE+1w)

Fixtit4u

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 10:49 PM (ovpNn)

244 cq3QL: Do not taunt happy fun Ewok.

Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:49 PM (nK2Sx)

245 Good to see CNN focusing on the important details from this week's events: facts and background on the anti-Muslim filmmaker.


Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 10:50 PM (ECYvo)

246 #244, its all good.

#245, Its Dr. Who Weeping Angels meets the mob or something. Will give it a pass.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:50 PM (CrfL3)

247 Apparently a protestor in pakistan died from smoke inhalation while buring an American flag. Terrible that.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 10:51 PM (AiZkN)

248 Thank you all for your kind words, thoughts, and prayers for my niece.

MOre prayers here nighthawk.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 10:51 PM (ZpJso)

249 I still remember when President Kennedy ordered the Marines to take Ewok Island. Damn those Indians fought hard for every inch of the frozen island. I will never forget the online videos I saw as a teenager.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 16, 2012 10:52 PM (AUeaU)

250 >>
Apparently a protestor in pakistan died from smoke inhalation while buring an >>American flag. Terrible that.

I denounce myself for laughing.

Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 10:52 PM (ECYvo)

251 240
In Barack Obama's world, charity means what you give him.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 16, 2012 10:47 PM (CrfL3)

Reminds me of the joke about the kid that says "Mom what am i going to get for xmas?" and Mom replies "X-Mas is about giving dear." to which he replies "ok...Mom, what are you giving me for xmas?"

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 10:52 PM (ovpNn)

252
BRB outting infidels!

Posted by: CNN at September 16, 2012 10:52 PM (AUeaU)

253 SACK

Posted by: concrete girl at September 16, 2012 10:54 PM (y2Ojs)

254 ...pakistan died from smoke inhalation while buring an American flag.
I'm still LMAO on that on.
Send more flags.

Posted by: harleycowboy at September 16, 2012 10:54 PM (wSTfB)

255 >>Tell me, how much charity work has TFG done?

There are pics on the web of him hanging curtains. I suppose that counts.

Posted by: sTevo at September 16, 2012 10:55 PM (VMcEw)

256 Stupid cuntne incident means Christianity is as bad as islam.


Susie Madrak at Crooks and Liars blog found one example, some group which threw a molotov cocktail at a movie theater in France in 1988:

While listening to all the outraged right wing rantings about free speech and how Muslims were a separate, primitive class of religion for their outraged and violent response in Libya to the deliberately provocative work of a California porn director, I kept thinking to myself, “Why does this all seem so familiar?”

And then, last night I watched Martin Scorcese’s 1988 film, “The Last Temptation of Christ”, and it all came flooding back. From Wikipedia:

On October 22, 1988, a French Christian fundamentalist group launched Molotov cocktails inside the Parisian Saint Michel movie theater while it was showing the film. This attack injured thirteen people, four of whom were severely burned ….

Lesson of the day: No religion has a monopoly on irrational violence.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:55 PM (6o4Fb)

257 I know this is way off topic. but I just got off a phone conversation with my 11 yo grandson about the 1st 2nd and 17yh amendment. WooHoo. Yes, kitchen is clean and I have beer goggles on.

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 10:55 PM (k7biU)

258 257 Special "toxic" flags,from China.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:56 PM (6o4Fb)

259 >>BRB outting infidels!

When Allah comes for Atlanta he will kill you last!

Posted by: Religion of Peace Extremists at September 16, 2012 10:56 PM (ECYvo)

260
This obsession with selling the "mean movie made the Muzzies mad" theme is interesting.

Just how far will they carry this? How long until people start laughing out loud at how adsurd this is?

And Joe Scarborough needs to remember that phrase from the Thomas Wolfe novel, "you can't go home again".
Joe, you hopeless mope, you haven't just burned the bridge, you burned the river. Good luck and go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at September 16, 2012 10:57 PM (sJTmU)

261 225 rWC, I'm in deep blue Va (falls church) and there a re few Obama signs about
Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 10:44 PM (kdfQ/)
----

You lucky dog you. That will save you gas as you drive around pointing and laughing at them on the 7th.

I really don't remember seeing any signs up for TFG. Even in the 2008 election.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 10:57 PM (0VipX)

262 Another thing.

If the Arabs were protesting over the production values of the anti-Mohammed movie I can sympathize with their anger.

Gosh, the dialogue and the scenery--I'd riot too, I guess.

Maybe this was the Arab way of giving the film "two thumbs down?"

Or is this perhaps their way of rating films like Rotten Tomatoes? Is there some cultural divide here that we have missed?

Maybe we should send them over a few other full length stinkers (Captain Hook, anyone--remember that) and see how they react.

We could put it up on the movie rating sites like Fandango--"the Arab riot meter."

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 10:57 PM (RE+1w)

263 Yah, TFG donated about 6.1% of his income to charity in 2006. Whereas Rmoney gave over 14% of his income in 2010. It's a real close call. Biden gave practically nothing in 2006, at a rate of 0.15%.

As I've told my children over and over, don't listen to what a person SAYS, look at their actions. That is the judgement point. A person's actions speak much more clearly than their words do.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 16, 2012 10:57 PM (ccXZP)

264
In regards to Mika's boy-toy, I think it's instructive to note that most of the reporting on his 2016 ambitions didn't state which party nomination he was interested in.

Prayers for Nighthawk's loved ones
Congrats to CAC and CACBride (Plaid or Death!)

'sup jackwagons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 16, 2012 10:58 PM (Rhie+)

265 >>Joe, you hopeless mope

Joe's in it for Mika. At least that's the conclusion I came to.

Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 10:58 PM (ECYvo)

266 Any one like port and chocolate?

Why not have them together? Choc-a-bloc port. Yum.

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 16, 2012 10:58 PM (CJwi5)

267 253
>>

Apparently a protestor in pakistan died from smoke inhalation while buring an >>American flag. Terrible that.

I denounce myself for laughing.


Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 10:52 PM (ECYvo)
HAHAHA
OMG check this out! This is why they cant have nice stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE_LBDvpkZ0

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka muhammad hussein jihadi Peace Loving soetero blame bush wright at September 16, 2012 10:58 PM (ovpNn)

268 If the 2.1 billion Christians can get the 900 million Hindus on our side, I say we should have a hoe down with the Musselmen.

Posted by: toby928© at September 16, 2012 10:58 PM (QupBk)

269 Apparently a protestor in pakistan died from smoke inhalation while buring an American flag. Terrible that.
Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 10:51 PM (AiZkN)

--------------

Is it wrong that my brain immediately started singing "You're A Grand Old Flag..."?

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at September 16, 2012 10:59 PM (OvIGs)

270 Apparently a protestor in pakistan died from smoke inhalation while buring an American flag. Terrible that.

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 16, 2012 10:51 PM (AiZkN)


I hope it was a painful, protracted, terror-filled death.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 10:59 PM (X3lox)

271 JOE SCARBOROUGH: Talk about the conservative critique-and I think it's a fair critique, the conservative critique: that all you guys in the media were talking about Barack Obama's awful foreign policyy, you should have talked about the god awful economy and jobs, etc., etc. And yes perhaps we should have.  But you know who didn't allow us to do that?
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Barack Obama.

SCARBOROUGH: Barack Obama. If Barack Obama had any kind of a coherent foreign policy, if he had not acted like a rank amateur, if he had not embarrassed himself-and by the way internally the Administration understands they screwed up, he's moved on, they know that. But Obama got in the way of the media looking at his own pathetic attempt to blow life into the economy, going, wha-, wha-, what happened here? How did this happen? Now, those questions are going to be asked in the coming weeks. But they weren't asked in the first 24 hours because Barack Obama was holding this horrific, irresponsible, "Green Jobs" program that, like the same program in Spain, killed more jobs than it created.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 16, 2012 10:59 PM (e8kgV)

272 Hi Bebe!!! How YOU doin'???

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 10:59 PM (/izg2)

273 Lesson of the day: No religion has a monopoly on irrational violence.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:55 PM (6o4Fb)


I gotta tell you, I live in the south. I'm scared to go out to wal mart because all those crazy Christians are blowing themselves up in the middle of crowds all the time. The car bombs are pretty bad too.


Posted by: Adam at September 16, 2012 11:00 PM (/YJYi)

274 #262: "When Allah comes for Atlanta he will kill you last!"

Pffft, pikers.

Posted by: General Sherman at September 16, 2012 11:00 PM (cq3QL)

275 The car bombs are pretty bad too.

Stay out of pizza pallors.

Posted by: The Lutefisk Front at September 16, 2012 11:01 PM (QupBk)

276 and parlors too.

Posted by: The Lutefisk Front at September 16, 2012 11:01 PM (QupBk)

277 I was about to ask if anyone knew when we could expect another EOJ Bourbon Cast, then remembered I bookmarked it. It too short, he didn't say fuck enough- but was otherwise awesome.

Posted by: Furious Meatball at September 16, 2012 11:01 PM (mxnUd)

278 everybody must be watching football.

Posted by: grease monkey at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (VSWPU)

279 269 You're a High Flyin Flag,

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (NmfLU)

280
This obsession with selling the "mean movie made the Muzzies mad" theme is interesting.

Just how far will they carry this? How long until people start laughing out loud at how adsurd this is?





I'm wondering how far the govt will carry this investigation and arrest of the guy that made it. The Muslim Brotherhood will want an execution. They know that; right?

Posted by: katya the designated driver at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (DoZD+)

281
According to reports the Islamist animals who murdered J. Christopher Stevens, our Ambassador to Libya, sodomized him before during and after he was killed. They followed the same formula they used when they murdered Gadhafi. To these 7th century “warriors” doing such things shows the extreme disrespect they have for the male victims. In their half- witted minds this “manly” act makes the victim a woman in death and in life after death. They are misogynist skunks who hate women because of their own sick feelings of inadequacy. Hillary Clinton should have known these things but apparently never bothered herself with details.

The blood of J. Christopher Stevens, a man who happened to be Gay but had a love of America that compelled him to step forward to work for our nation, is absolutely on the hands of Hillary Clinton as the fake she is and Barack Obama for the incompetent he is.

Clinton is a woman with no particular qualifications except that she “took one for the team” and allowed herself to be publicly humiliated by her sexually depraved husband.

Because she “put ice on her lip” and sung “Stand by your man” on 60 Minutes, the poster boy for degradation of women was elected and reelected to the presidency. The Democrats who are a Party that rewards degenerates have been thanking Hillary ever since she and her husband sold their last pardon on January 20, 2001.

We know her career path. She pushed aside all qualified and loyal New York State Democrats (Nita Lowey comes to mind) so she could run in the deepest Blue State that suited her fancy without a difficult race. She tried to be the president but was out “race carded” as her pervert husband put it.

To stay in the public’s eye she accepted the position of Secretary of State and has done an horrifically bad job at it. That happens when being a good Democrat is the only consideration for appointment to a position of high trust and importance.

For reasons know only to her she successfully urged Barack Obama to help the Muslim Brotherhood over throw the American friendly Mubarack government in Egypt and help the Brotherhood kill Gadhafi in Libya.

Then she installed a man she knew to be Gay (she said she knew him well) as the Ambassador to a country controlled by vicious Gay hating animals. She did this to win favor with America’s Gay community so they would keep contributing to the Democrat Party. Now Chris Stevens has been killed and sodomized by the people Hillary Clinton helped put in power throughout the Middle East. This goes beyond incompetence into the realm of criminal negligence. That poor man was a human sacrifice to the god of Political Correctness.

Any questions?

Posted by: sickinmass at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (bcNec)

282 Good evening.

Okay, tonight I caved. I had to, for my own sanity's sake. I've lost too much weight too quickly and it was catching up to me. Just feeling weak and sluggish...fatigued. Scaled back the running portion of my nightly walk/run a bit and I'm not feeling like I'm about to keel over. I'm way ahead of the curve on my goals anyway, I don't think I'd mind slowing it down a bit this week.

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (LUnTP)

283 Any one like port and chocolate?


And with a fine cigar.

Posted by: sTevo at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (VMcEw)

284 everybody must be watching football.

No, they're all just depressed by the PPP poll. We can't go on.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:03 PM (/D7/G)

285
A friend gave me a hard drive with 6 seasons of "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia" on it, among other things.

Why have I never heard of this show? It is fucking hilarious.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:03 PM (JDIKC)

286 >>The Muslim Brotherhood will want an execution.

Yes, but being a civilized political entity, I'm sure they'll settle for lethal injection rather than an old-fashioned stoning. They are nothing if not reasonable.

Posted by: Not Dick Saslaw at September 16, 2012 11:03 PM (ECYvo)

287 Forever in Peace may you wave,

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 11:03 PM (NmfLU)

288 I am really warming to the idea of Hollywood screening some of their films over there in Egypt and Sudan with some Islamic focus groups.

I think they really may have some excellent movie critics.

Conversation with two film execs: "Hmmm. Only one embassy attacked with this new one. I'm not sure its edgy enough. Perhaps we need to delete the scene with the Akbar the pet goat."

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 11:04 PM (RE+1w)

289 263
As
I've told my children over and over, don't listen to what a person SAYS,
look at their actions. That is the judgement point. A person's actions
speak much more clearly than their words do.


What a rotten standard. By that rule you could decide that someone was some type of miserable failure, even if women routinely faint at their speeches.

Posted by: Barack "TOTUS Master" Obama at September 16, 2012 11:04 PM (2IW5Q)

290 JDIKC

Ok. How much did you pay?

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 16, 2012 11:05 PM (pjT+p)

291 Scarborough wins the Billy Madison award this week. No points and may God have mercy on his soul.

Posted by: polynikes at September 16, 2012 11:05 PM (RM1gx)

292 Hi Bebe!!! How YOU doin'???
Posted by: NC Ref

I been better. Doggy child seems to be ok tonight, and is begging for bites of my veal parmigana. So a little bit of good news. How goes the nc reffing?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:05 PM (ZpJso)

293
It's the land that I love,

with the peace from above,

Posted by: Infidel at September 16, 2012 11:05 PM (NmfLU)

294 Made it onto Insty: http://tinyurl.com/966lemb

Posted by: DAve at September 16, 2012 11:07 PM (hXJEu)

295 Another thing.

If the Arabs were protesting over the production values of the anti-Mohammed movie I can sympathize with their anger.

Gosh, the dialogue and the scenery--I'd riot too, I guess.

Maybe this was the Arab way of giving the film "two thumbs down?"

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 10:57 PM (RE+1w)


If that were true they would have blown the whole world up over any ScyFy movie. It looked about the same quality. The clothes in this movie were cleaner, though. I've never seen an arab in my life that had clothes that clean.

But how would the muz know, anyway? The movie was in English. Subtitles wouldn't make a difference since the muslim world is about the most illiterate population on Earth ... even with trillions of petro-dollars stupidly being laid on them because we allowed the savages to steal the gulf oil fields.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 11:08 PM (X3lox)

296 If the 2.1 billion Christians can get the 900 million Hindus on our side, I say we should have a hoe down with the Musselmen.
Some are already working on it like the Hindu in my sock (how a Hindu got in my sock, I'll never know) who wants to air the Mo-Movie.

And more here (seeing as I can't sock link more than one) about a Toronto school that turned the cafeteria into a mosque every Friday being protested by many faiths.
http://tinyurl.com/8rddwqe

Posted by: andycanuck at September 16, 2012 11:08 PM (vDl/w)

297 Good grief. I leave for a few and half the thread gets eaten? AND I'm told to suck balls?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:09 PM (GEICT)

298 A clever wag hereabouts suggested -- just a few days ago, seems like years now -- that embassy flags be made of Nomex and kevlar. Cute. NBC would roll tape exactly once, of the impotent crowd unable to do any damage to it, finally giving up and just dragging it around. After that, the networks would find it just too insulting to islam to display.

Why not make them out of the most toxic plastics known to man? Something so bad that, like The Hole at Ground Zero, if one of them burned you'd still be getting undiagnosable cancers decades later just from being there when it went down? Hell, who'd even notice? But we'd know...and sooner or later it would get leaked.

Posted by: comatus at September 16, 2012 11:10 PM (qaVK+)

299 And with a fine cigar. Posted by: sTevo

You have cigars? How YOU doin?!

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at September 16, 2012 11:10 PM (ZpJso)

300 Congratulations CAC!!
Happy birthday concrete girl! But what the hell are you doing hanging out here on your birthday?
Good to see ya jewells!
Was lurking on the last thread, got disgusted and left.

Posted by: teej at September 16, 2012 11:10 PM (pUAXu)

301 sickinmass: What reports? I keep reading speculation, but didn't know there were reports.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 11:10 PM (cq3QL)

302 That Camino del Rey video was f'in nuts. I had Ms. Duke watch it and she was in awe. We passed thru those gorges this past summer en route from Malaga to Alahambra. My vertigo did not take kindly to that car drive, or that video.

Posted by: David Duke at September 16, 2012 11:11 PM (v6ewg)

303 > I've lost too much weight too quickly and it was catching up to me. Just feeling weak and sluggish...fatigued.


I recommend ice cream and Oreos

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2012 11:11 PM (8sCoq)

304 Wait... Obama sent an openly guy guy to be ambassador to Libya?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 16, 2012 11:12 PM (r4wIV)

305 They must not get TruTV over there in Araby.

Imagine the rioting we'd get then?

Even better: let's dub Honey Boo Boo into Arabic and put it up on You Tube.

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 11:13 PM (RE+1w)

306 Lie signing analysis, you don't need to know what the ppp poll says, but you can understand what is happening by where they are being paid to poll. You can be assured the the real data is getting to Obama, not this silly processed product. What McCain state is Obama polling?

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 11:13 PM (iy7de)

307
Ok. How much did you pay?<<<<<

Pay? A friend lent me his hard drive. On it, he has six seasons of this show which he recorded. Is there a follow up question?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:13 PM (JDIKC)

308
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:05 PM (ZpJso)

Awww...glad Molly's doing better. Hungry is good. Teh ref job is about like always...every time I make a call at least half the people bitch about it. But fuck them, I'm right almost always lol. And even when I'm wrong, I can sell the fact that I made the right call.
Looking forward to the next DL trip!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 11:14 PM (/izg2)

309 And CAC finally got married?

Hey, congratulations!

Now you can finally spill the secrets on what it takes for some fugly somomabiscuit like yourself to land such a hot sexy mamacita like Mrs. CAC.

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2012 11:14 PM (LUnTP)

310 Pay for the hash JDIKC

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 16, 2012 11:15 PM (pjT+p)

311 Probably one thing worth mentioning during all of this stuff in the Middle East is the Tet Offensive--in Libya at least, we just had the modern version of it.

Obviously, being informed conservatives, I'm sure you're all aware that militarily it was actually a failure, but from a media standpoint, it was fantastic. It was a turning point in the public concluding it was hopeless.

Libya is the one country that was part of the Arab Spring that had a secular government win. Gaddafi had a pseudo-religious cult built around him and living under it left the populace more antagonistic to religious government than they have been elsewhere.

So, having not won the election and looking for another way to get in power, this is how the Islamist fundamentalists can do it. They want the American public pissed at Libya. They want the America to stop helping Libya's government, so they can come into power. Obviously, there's a lot to be angry at, but as far as judging the country, that election means more than an Al Qaeda hit or even the protests.

Now, obviously there are other places that are part of the Arab Spring that are much more extremist. All polls I've seen of the Egyptian populace show them as being pretty fundamentalist.

The hit happened in Libya, not Egypt and not Tunisia, for a reason, though. Don't fall for it.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:15 PM (/D7/G)

312 I recommend ice cream and Oreos
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2012 11:11 PM (8sCoq)

I opted for a chicken pot pie instead.

Like heaven it was.

Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (LUnTP)

313 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:03 PM (JDIKC)

-----

You may have been like me. My friend tried to sell this many, many times and I always gave him the 'yeah, sounds great...i'll check it out.......' Never happened.

Then i was tipsy one night and caught the Rickety Crickety wrestling episode and proceeded to buy all the seasons I could the next day. By far the funniest show out there.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (0VipX)

314 310 Pay for the hash JDIKC

Ace should start selling hashes. New revenue stream!

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (IoNBC)

315 There goes the 49ers. They win.

Posted by: Truman North from the desktop PC at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (I2LwF)

316 Not sure I buy that ambassador was gay rumor. Dude had a wife and kids, from what I've read. Honestly, doesn't matter much.

The ambassador represents the authority of the US, and his person is supposed to be untouchable. Wars have begun over perceived insults to ambassadors, let alone the murder of one,

Put me firmly in the "kill em all" camp now.

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (CJwi5)

317 Interesting article in the Atlantic:

Moondoggle: The Forgotten Opposition to the Apollo Program

http://tinyurl.com/9838yau

/hat tip Transterrestrial Musings

I do remember seeing Jesse Jackass leading a protest at one of the later Apollo launches. He said that the money we were spending on Apollo should go to the poor instead.

Yeah, fling more money at the poor. That's worked out great.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:17 PM (sdi6R)

318 scobface-- {Jameson voice} BRILLIANT!!

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 16, 2012 11:17 PM (pjT+p)

319
@typo,

Aha! If only I could. I have a dynamic IP arrangement, and sooner or later, the power will go out, or I'll have to reset my modem for some reason, and the mighty J-Dick will be no more.

I dread that day.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:18 PM (JDIKC)

320 AmeriDan....


http://tinyurl.com/9b7a3wt

Posted by: sickinmass at September 16, 2012 11:18 PM (bcNec)

321 pQ of 3, AuH2O has Nothing on me

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 11:19 PM (hjRtO)

322 DC the only reason the gay rumors matter is what it says about the judgement of TFG.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at September 16, 2012 11:20 PM (pjT+p)

323 BSNBC must really be putting something into the water cooler. Apparently Mitt Romney is such a blinding light in the darkness that media moth horde can only respond to their hard-wired phototaxic instinct and follow him around regardless of whatever else is happening in the world. What - Mitt Romney ate some Jello? Stop the presses, we must spend days agonizing over the insult and injury to pudding lovers everywhere.

Oh screw this. Let's not bother with blaming this on the cooler water. This is just BSNBC doing what they do.

Posted by: dissent555 at September 16, 2012 11:20 PM (yR6A1)

324 From Innocence of muslims ...

Mother: Our daughter's a child and he is 55 years old.

Father: 53, not 55.


LOL. This movie is hysterical.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 11:20 PM (X3lox)

325 316, at a minimum, all of Benghazi's oil facilities should be burning

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 11:21 PM (hjRtO)

326
sickinmass at 281

Questions? No, I think that covers just about everything.

It makes you kinda wish that some day a big ol' hole in the ground would open up and swallow up Bill and Hillary! Clinton.

People say that we need to get Barack out of office before he does any lasting damage, or something like that.

Let me tell you, Billy Clinton and Barack Obama have done so much "lasting damage" to this country that it's astounding and a credit to millions of hard working Americans that things aren't WORSE than they are now.

As the saying goes, there's a lot of ruin in a country.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch (fake Internet person) writes..... at September 16, 2012 11:21 PM (sJTmU)

327 CHRIS MATTHEWS: Talk about the conservative critique-and I think it's a
fair critique, the conservative critique: that all you guys in the
media were talking about Mitt Romney, you should have talked about the
warnings with the embassy, etc., etc. And yes perhaps we should have. But you know who didn't allow us to do that?
AL SHARPTON: Mitt Romney. CHRIS MATTHEWS: Mitt Romney.
If Mitt Romney had kept out of the running for President, if he had not acted like a rank
amateur, if he had not embarrassed himself-and by the way internally
the campaign understands they screwed up, he's moved on, they know that.
But Romney got in the way of the media looking at the president, going,
wha-, wha-, what happened here? How did this happen? Now, those
questions are going to be asked in the coming weeks. But they weren't
asked in the first 24 days of the campaign because Romney was holding this horrific,
irresponsible, run for President.

Posted by: Hedy Lamarr at September 16, 2012 11:21 PM (e8kgV)

328 I dread that day.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:18 PM (JDIKC)

Yeah. If Emerson's Compensation holds, then your next hash will be something really embarrassing. Like "BoBma" or something.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:22 PM (IoNBC)

329 Where's that confounded bridge?

Posted by: grease monkey at September 16, 2012 11:23 PM (VSWPU)

330 at a minimum, all of Benghazi's oil facilities should be burning

Posted by: Jean at September 16, 2012 11:21 PM (hjRtO)


No. They should be retaken. Libya needs to be defanged and neutralized. The only way to do that is to make sure they have no control of the oil. They didn't build those wells, anyway. They just stole them. Time to take them back.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 11:24 PM (X3lox)

331 325 at a minimum, all of Benghazi's oil facilities should be burning seized

FIFY.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:24 PM (sdi6R)

332 Good evening, all! I've been desperately trying to avoid any mention of the despicable Preezy this weekend, but all for naught. He continues to beclown himself and the United States, and his media lapdogs are past the point of being merely ridiculous and have ventured into complete absurdity.


Here's one question -- is the administration still holding to the idiotic assertion that the Libyan hordes who dragged Ambassador Stevens through the streets of Benghazi were "taking him to the hospital?" Or have they finally abandoned that trite, laughable premise?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 16, 2012 11:24 PM (CA2NO)

333 EOJ, have you seen the one where thay are loading up on gas to resale late when the price goes up? funny one. and the intervention is also

Posted by: Racefan at September 16, 2012 11:25 PM (hWB6v)

334
No. They should be retaken. Libya needs to be defanged and neutralized. The only way to do that is to make sure they have no control of the oil. They didn't build those wells, anyway. They just stole them. Time to take them back<<<<<

Kick Their Ass and Take Their Gas.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:25 PM (JDIKC)

335 is the administration still holding to the idiotic assertion

I've been watching for news reports on this all day. So far as I know, they're doubling down.

Everybody knows the administration line on this is a blatant lie. Everybody.

If Romney plays this right, this could win the election for him.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:27 PM (IoNBC)

336 320: Thanks sickinmass, but I meant the reports about him being raped.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 11:27 PM (cq3QL)

337 324 From Innocence of muslims ...

Mother: Our daughter's a child and he is 55 years old.

Father: 53, not 55.

LOL. This movie is hysterical.


I agree. I thought it was funny.

And the production values make "Plan 9 From Outer Space" look like "Citizen Kane".

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:27 PM (sdi6R)

338
Hey, kids! What's new?

Besides Barack Obama being a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure, that is?

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 16, 2012 11:28 PM (6zmHV)

339 Kick Their Ass and Take Their Gas.



Should be the RR2012 campaign slogan. I nominate EOJ for campaign manager!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 11:28 PM (/izg2)

340 And the production values make "Plan 9 From Outer Space" look like "Citizen Kane".

"Goat-bud."

Posted by: Ahmed the Arrested Moderate at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (IoNBC)

341 Libya needs to be defanged and neutralized. The only way to do that is to make sure they have no control of the oil.

Sorry to be the jerk, but this is what I mean. We'd be doing Al Qaeda's work for them.

Al Qaeda opposes Libya's government. The fundamentalists in Libya oppose Libya's government. They couldn't win at the ballot box. They couldn't institute a coup, because we'd support the government. So, what do they do, they cause a big attack to make the American public hate Libya. Voila, either we do their work for them or we stop supporting the government so they can take it over.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (/D7/G)

342
@Racefan,

No, just the first three episodes of Season 1. The deal with the gay bar, the one where they go to the abortion protest to bang chicks, and the one where they let in underage drinkers and end up with prom dates.

These people are so fucking wrong. But it is some brilliant shit.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (JDIKC)

343


*** WHAT ... THE ... HELL !!!!****


While you guys were babysitting some damn fool who was destroying some unremarkable (I presume) thread, Gerald f-ing Rivera was having himselfone of hissanctimonious hissy-fits, and pretty much condemned a man to death!!!

He would up with this self-righteous blabber about how "victims are always shown, but not the perpatrators", and then proceeds to show a photo showing the face of Islam's favorite film-maker!!

So follow Geraldo's logic with me here. Making a movie that you know is send Muslims into a homicidal rage is the cause of deadly riots riots overseas, but publishing the picture of a man, when you know that it will help the same homicidal maniacs hunt down and kill him is ... righteous outing of a religious bigot, and not murder!?! Fox MUST fire that crazy sanctimonius SOB!!!

I was shocked not to see a flaming skull in here, once I got the chance to come over and see what's happening...

Posted by: Optimizer at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (As94z)

344 Yes, SiM, I do have a question. 1(a) why is Gay capitalized? Is it the new Black?

1(b), If this career employee, otherwise qualified for promotion, and protected by new anti-discrimination rules, had asked for assignment to a culture that would likely kill him if they knew his personal preferences, and the State Dept had intervened and said, no, we cannot submit you to that level of risk, how much would he have been awarded in his lawsuit?

Like Adlai, I am prepared to wait for my answer until hell freezes over, or until Gabe's morning post, whichever comes first. It probably is covered under the Law of The Sea. The common law, anyway.

Speaking of which, if there is not currently circulating evidence that this employee was practicing his constitutionally-guaranteed life style among the populace of the host nation, well, there never will be now. But ISTM that there would be an issue there. That would have made for an interesting briefing. No, he did not deserve to die for his sexual preferences, if any, but it's too late to recall the mission now innit.

Posted by: comatus at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (qaVK+)

345 I don't think I've ever seen such a look of misery and dejection on the face of my daughter as I just did a moment ago. She just couldn't understand why Mitt Romney would undermine the efforts of Islamic Jihadists. "Even my soul mate Mohamed Atta?" she asked pitifully.

I sat down with her on the sofa and (as calmly as I could) tried to explain to her why Mitt Romney has rushed to judgment and besmirched the good name of every Islamic Jihadists, past and present. "And yes honey, even pederastic expert, Mohamed Atta", I was forced to say.

I tried to keep my voice steady, but it became increasingly difficult - the rage and feelings of helplessness were just too much. I think my daughter could tell something was wrong. I found myself at such a loss for words - nothing made any sense; nothing makes sense anymore. I finally had to admit, "Honey, I just don't know - I don't know what's going on in this country anymore..."

When I finished her lower lip started to tremble and her eyes began to fill with tears, "Daddy" she said, "why are the members of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy doing this to the country?" Well, that was it for me: I finally fell apart. She just fell into my arms and we both began sobbing for several minutes.

For once she had to comfort me and get me back on my feet. Sometimes I just think it's too much, but seeing the strength in my young daughter's voice helped me to get through.

Posted by: Madcow at September 16, 2012 11:30 PM (e8kgV)

346 Trying to add up the actual war crimes. Murder of a Diplomat and exhibition of his corpse, so far.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 11:30 PM (cq3QL)

347 Holy shit. I just got around to actually reading the post. I snuck into the top ten commenters this week. Ummmm.....cool? I think?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:30 PM (GEICT)

348 Even better: let's dub Honey Boo Boo into Arabic and put it up on You Tube.

Posted by: Interested Party at September 16, 2012 11:13 PM (RE+1w)


Will they retitle it "The Dating Game"?

Posted by: محمد بن عبد الله  at September 16, 2012 11:31 PM (sZTYJ)

349 Posted by: Optimizer at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (As94z)

Forget it, Jake. It's Rivera-town.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:31 PM (IoNBC)

350 Looking forward to the next DL trip!
Posted by: NC Ref

Best fly out next weekend then, Gush & I are supposed to meet the tentacled one and his better half there.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:32 PM (ZpJso)

351
I'm gonna have to dissagree on the whole "it wasn't the video" defence by conservatives. It WAS the video, which it is why it is soaggregious. The sheer and utter trifling lameness of it speakes volumes. Whether it's the coptic christian who makes the ramshackle video, the mainstreet baker who doesn't appropriately remove bacon grease from his cheddar scone recipe, or the jokester at the local community dance who tells a few too many muslim jokes, all are now succeptible to the violent jihad mob rage, and corresponding involvementby our federal agents to police these new quasi crimes.
My suggestion to conservatives is not to shy away from this being a response to the video. To shy away is to tacitly admit that it was 'wrong' for the video to be made, rather than to confront the sheer lunacy that the federal government will now police the minutia to appease the Muslim hoard.

Posted by: biff at September 16, 2012 11:32 PM (9qOrR)

352 I snuck into the top ten commenters this week. Ummmm.....cool? I think?
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:30 PM (GEICT)

Maybe not, B. I made it a few times. When I was unemployed.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:32 PM (IoNBC)

353
While you guys were babysitting some damn fool who was destroying some unremarkable (I presume) thread,<<<<<<

Let me get this straight. Are you fussing at us because no one is jumping on your scoop in 128-pt mega font at 11:30p.m. on a Sunday?

Seriously?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:33 PM (JDIKC)

354 you will love them all........... i think i have seen most of them and they are all great.

Posted by: Racefan at September 16, 2012 11:33 PM (hWB6v)

355 343
I despise Geraldo. I have for a long time.

On Election Night 2008, I quit watching TV news, including Fox.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:34 PM (sdi6R)

356 I'm gonna have to dissagree on the whole "it wasn't
the video" defence by conservatives.Posted by: biff


Concern noted. Jog on.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 16, 2012 11:35 PM (3CiXB)

357 Argh. I took a day or two off the internet and news, hoping my rage would subside. Argh. It has not.

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Our honor will not be made whole again until Benghazi is destroyed, or Obama is removed from office.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:36 PM (xutGe)

358 Maybe not, B. I made it a few times. When I was unemployed.

Lol. Fully employed, but with plenty of time. I pretty much shattered my rage meter, repeatedly, last week with all the shit going down. Doubt I'll get up there again.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:36 PM (GEICT)

359
Weft,
I take it you didn't read beyond the first line before responding.

Posted by: biff at September 16, 2012 11:36 PM (9qOrR)

360 Sorry to be the jerk, but this is what I mean. We'd be doing Al Qaeda's work for them.

Al Qaeda opposes Libya's government. The fundamentalists in Libya oppose Libya's government. They couldn't win at the ballot box. They couldn't institute a coup, because we'd support the government. So, what do they do, they cause a big attack to make the American public hate Libya. Voila, either we do their work for them or we stop supporting the government so they can take it over.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:29 PM (/D7/G)


Without the oil al quaeda has little interest in Libya. WIthout the oil no one has any interest in Libya. THe Libyans can run around in their shithole stabbing each other in the ass, as arabs are wont to do. Who cares?

The oil is the sole source of power in the arab/persian/muslim world. That is it. They don't produce anything. They don't build anything. They don't create anything. They are nothing. Oil is the only reason anyone even bothers with the savages. Without the oil, they are nothing.

They all stole the oil fields in the foced nationalizations of the 1960s. Time to take them back and put an end to the threats to civilization that emanate from the APM world. So long as they have control of the oil we will never be safe. They live to destabilize and terrorize the world. The only way to stop them is to retake the fields.

I've been saying this for decades, already. Eventually, people will realize how obvious this solution is - and it just happens to be the one that requires the least amount of killing, too, though I couldn't give a shit how many of them have to be killed to stop their belligerent madness.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 11:36 PM (X3lox)

361
Geraldo interviewed a couple of the actresses who, as we know were duped into participating in something that wasn't what they were told. They hope that by speaking out and explaining that they didn't know what was going on, that things will be OK for them. Unfortunately, I expect that their efforts will be nothing, and this will only make things worse for them. The one is a super-gorgeous ginger from Seattle, for whom this was her first starring role.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 16, 2012 11:37 PM (As94z)

362
#356 you were able to decipher the post? Of course, I have been partaking of alcohol, so maybe that's my problem, but I couldn't make heads ner tails out of it.

Every time I see the name Biff I think of the great Far Side cartoon - "Ha, ha, ha, Biff...and now I'm going to the vet's to get tutored!"

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 16, 2012 11:37 PM (6zmHV)

363 319
Aha! If only I could. I have a dynamic IP arrangement, and sooner or later...Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 16, 2012 11:18 PM (JDIKC)Jeff, I've used this to access remote accesses that have dynamic IPs.http://www.no-ip.com/

Posted by: theCork at September 16, 2012 11:38 PM (0hpYU)

364 Best fly out next weekend then, Gush I are supposed to meet the tentacled one and his better half there.

Damn well that definitely won't happen. But I want to hear stories! And ask Cthulhu about how his better half enjoyed her historical battlefield tours here in the racist south. Enquiring minds want to know....

And hugs to Gushie for me please!!! (and send pics lol) hehehehe......

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 11:39 PM (/izg2)

365 If seeing someone hurl makes you gag, too, and then launch into a puffed-cheek, double-hands-to-the-mouth, chest-heaving dance before you either toss your own cookies or scurry safely (and dryly) away, well, we owe you a compliment.

People who feel the urge to barf when witnessing another person throw up are both compassionate and highly evolved, say two medical experts on the stomach-turning topic.

“There's good news and bad news about why upchucking causes other people in the immediate vicinity to upchuck,” said Amy Morin, who teaches psychology at Kennebec Valley Community College in Fairfield, Maine and works a licensed clinical social worker.

"The good news is, if it happens to you, it means you have empathy,” Morin said.


I knew a teacher who had a partially disabled child that had an incontinence problem and a child who was, according to this folks, an "empathy" gift/problem.

Posted by: Dr Sheldon Cooper at September 16, 2012 11:39 PM (e8kgV)

366 BCochran1981: What's up with that?

No one ever tells me to suck balls. I need to step it up, I guess.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:39 PM (0aV2C)

367 I've been saying this for decades, already. Eventually, people will realize how obvious this solution is - and it just happens to be the one that requires the least amount of killing, too, though I couldn't give a shit how many of them have to be killed to stop their belligerent madness.

Not that I necessarily disagree, but let me play devil's advocate. We take the fields. Then what? Defend them for all eternity? How much shit will they throw at us to get them back? And the sabotage. We can't keep the fuckheads off our military bases. And how long do you think it'll take before people start screaming about blood for oil and that the govt is doing big oil's bidding?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (GEICT)

368 And hugs to Gushie for me please!!! (and send pics lol) hehehehe......
Posted by: NC Ref

I suppose you would like us to include her hairless pusseh in said pics?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (ZpJso)

369 Without the oil al quaeda has little interest in Libya.

Sorry, I just disagree. Yemen is ranked 35th in oil production. It has one of the largest (if not the largest) concentrations of Al Qaeda members today.

Libya is located in the Middle East and has Muslims. I think that's enough for Al Qaeda's interest.

Posted by: AD at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (/D7/G)

370 201
Firing guns and rockets and apparently triggering suicide vests, the

attackers killed two U.S. Marines and damaged or destroyed several

hangars and fueling facilities. Before they were all killed or captured,

the insurgents also managed to destroy..."

************

God, how much better would it be to read, "before they were all killed or left gut-shot to die slowly and painfully in the hot sun by the side of the road..."




Posted by: Zombie Genl. Patton at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (41zfH)

371 Lesson of the day: No religion has a monopoly on irrational violence.

Posted by: steevy at September 16, 2012 10:55 PM (6o4Fb)

Guess it is too much to ask for the lib media to separate religious tenets from persons that claim a particular.
Pretty sure the various Christian faiths don't really have a formal policy calling for "Death to unbelievers!" although I am sure you can find a psychopath or two that will claim Christianity as his "religion of choice".
On the other hand, the muz (all flavors) have a formal written policy calling for and approving of violence against "infidels", and have helpfully provided thousands of case studies in the practical application of the principles of jihad.
But in the end, shut up, they are morally equivalent.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (Cnqmv)

372 The Libya attack was a planned AQ
operation, the US had at least 3 days warning, and the government did NOTHING to stop it. This is much much worse than any stupid video.

Posted by: Gordon at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (yJYwC)

373 #356 you were able to decipher the post? Of course, I
have been partaking of alcohol, so maybe that's my problem, but I
couldn't make heads ner tails out of it.Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan


Pretty much stop after the condescending lecture "You conthervatives should sthop!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (3CiXB)

374 I wanted to post this on the Detroit-Frisco NFL thread, but it was closed.

The problem with WoW's new expansion isn't the pandas. I don't have a
problem with that. I don't even really mind the vanity pet cockfighting
ring, although I do think it's very, very dumb.

The real problem,
IMO, is the talent tree overhaul. Every character will lose two out of
every three of his current bread-and-butter skills under this shitty, shitty new
system. Sure, things will probably be tweaked a bit to let characters
continue to be effective... but they won't be as fun to play.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (RLZvP)

375
"353Let me get this straight. Are you fussing at us because no one is jumping on your scoop in 128-pt mega font at 11:30p.m. on a Sunday?

Seriously?"


Scoop? It was over an hour ago.

Sorry, but I thought the blog that called for Obama's resignation over the government bullying this guy might be a little more excited about another a-hole marking him for death.

But, hey, "It's Sunday". My mistake, I guess. Never mind.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 16, 2012 11:42 PM (As94z)

376 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 11:36 PM (X3lox)

We may not need to take their oil. There's a genuine energy revolution afoot. I can't understand why the Romney campaign hasn't put energy independence front and center. It's a no-brainer.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:42 PM (IoNBC)

377 354 you will love them all........... i think i have seen most of them and they are all great.
Posted by: Racefan at September 16, 2012 11:33 PM (hWB6v)


I can't think of an un-memorable one.

Yes, they are sometime 'wrong' as hell, but.

And just FYI for EoJ...Mac and Dee are procreating in real life. CPS are already notified.

Posted by: RWC at September 16, 2012 11:42 PM (0VipX)

378 On Election Night 2008, I quit watching TV news, including Fox.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:34 PM


After Election Night 2004, I quit watching TV completely.

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 16, 2012 11:43 PM (JMmQ9)

379
Posted by: Robert at September 16, 2012 11:02 PM (LUnTP)

wow, that is awesome - not the fainting bit but the ahead of your goals bit

Posted by: chemjeff at September 16, 2012 11:43 PM (d/5qf)

380 For those of you that are trying to list legal crimes that were perpetrated, I would suggest you're going about it wrong.

The Middle East only understands power. And the currency of power was, is, and has always been honor.

After helping liberate that nation from a tyrant, we sent one of our own amongst the people of Benghazi. He represents, as an ambassador, all of America.

They kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered our Ambassador. His corpse was then mutilated, dragged through the streets, and otherwise disgraced.

What we have here is a matter of honor. As a matter of honor, all of Benghazi must be laid waste with nuclear fire.

Benghazi delenda est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:43 PM (xutGe)

381 366 BCochran1981: What's up with that?

No one ever tells me to suck balls. I need to step it up, I guess.
Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:39 PM (0aV2C)



Beats the shit outa me. I go spend some quality time with the wife, I come back to "you're a cockring, suck my balls."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:43 PM (GEICT)

382 The truth is SCOAMF's ego, or evil (take your pick) is going to get a fuckload of people killed. Murbarak and Kadafi were bad dudes, but they were bad dudes that had been taught the lesson that fire burns. Now, there's a new generation that, not only doesn't know that fire burns- but they don't evenknow what the fuck fire is. It will be a deadly and painful lesson.

Posted by: Furious Meatball at September 16, 2012 11:45 PM (mxnUd)

383 I suppose you would like us to include her hairless pusseh in said pics?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (ZpJso)



Of course! You know how much I like playing with Gushka's beautiful hairless pussy!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 16, 2012 11:45 PM (/izg2)

384
>>Murder of a Diplomat and exhibition of his corpse, so far.

http://tinyurl.com/9x2aka6

Posted by: sickinmass at September 16, 2012 11:46 PM (bcNec)

385 360
The oil is the sole source of power in the arab/persian/muslim world. That is it. They don't produce anything. They don't build anything. They don't create anything. They are nothing. Oil is the only reason anyone even bothers with the savages. Without the oil, they are nothing.

They all stole the oil fields in the foced nationalizations of the 1960s. Time to take them back and put an end to the threats to civilization that emanate from the APM world. So long as they have control of the oil we will never be safe. They live to destabilize and terrorize the world. The only way to stop them is to retake the fields.


DingDingDing We have a winner.

The Muslim world was once a great threat to the Western world, but once the West went through the Age of Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution, we left the muzzies in the dust. For over two centuries they were nothing more than a primitive backwater and were no threat to us.

In the mid-20th century British and American geologists, engineers, and oil companies developed the oil fields in the Middle East. Suddenly vast amounts of money began flowing there, allowing them a standard of living and access to Western technology that they did nothing to earn. With their newfound wealth and access to the West, the problem of Muslim terrorism was born.

It's OUR oil. The Arab Muslims could never have developed that resource on their own. Seize the damn oil fields. The left has already accused us of doing so, so we may as well go all the way.

Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:46 PM (sdi6R)

386 Comatus: Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the President ... they represent him in absentia.

A President can appoint or fire any one to the post as he pleases and for whatever reason he pleases. The EEOC laws do not apply here, these posts are strictly top end political appointee / plums.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 16, 2012 11:47 PM (0aV2C)

387
I went to the Art Festival.....street vendors with fine arts...in Leesburg , Va. today and the f*)()* O-bots just about ruined it for me. Walking around with signs and camped out in the main intersection. I was there to look at some paintings, not that crap.

I wonder if any of them think that I'll be buying any artwork with a 43% dividend tax come Jan. 1

Just getting it off my chest.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 16, 2012 11:48 PM (l3vZN)

388 >>As a matter of honor, all of Benghazi must be laid waste with nuclear fire.

F u c k i n g a.

Posted by: sickinmass at September 16, 2012 11:48 PM (bcNec)

389 People who feel the urge to barf when witnessing another person throw up are both compassionate and highly evolved, say two medical experts on the stomach-turning topic.

It happened to me once, but the heaving drunk was my brother, and I was just as drunk as him.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:48 PM (IoNBC)

390 381
Roly-poly, tickle my holey.
Suck my slimey slew.
Roll my balls across the halls.
I'm one of the sporting crew.

Posted by: The Peanut Man at September 16, 2012 11:48 PM (ptlfZ)

391 Not that I necessarily disagree, but let me play devil's advocate.

Go right ahead.

We take the fields. Then what? Defend them for all eternity? How much shit will they throw at us to get them back? And the sabotage. We can't keep the fuckheads off our military bases. And how long do you think it'll take before people start screaming about blood for oil and that the govt is doing big oil's bidding?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (GEICT)


People don't live in oil fields. They are the easiest land to hold. They will need to be defended, of course, but the fields should be defended right now, too - as oil is the lifeblood of the world (not the arab world, of course. They could blow the fields up and not feel much of anything, as we saw with the Iran-Iraq war and with what the other Hussein did with oil in the GUlf War). Oil is the world's most important resource that already needs the sort of defense that you are talking about. Better that we should be doing it than suicide-bombing arabs and persians, who can't be trusted with anything of value.

The cost of this maintenance, of course, is tiny in comparison to the flow from the fields and the private companies getting the contracts to pump would be doing most of the defense requirements. Better to have to defend easily defended oil fields than having to worry about the serious threats all over the world and in all spheres that those fields support from the arab/persian/muslim world.

They had their chance. They stole the fields and were allowed to keep them for 50 years. They got trillions of free petro-dollars. What do they have to show for that money? Nothing. Nothing but destruction and mayhem and costing everyone else in the world (most importantly, US) to defend against them. Enough already, I say.

They did build a couple of mile high office towers in the desert ... where land is at such a premium ... there is that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 16, 2012 11:48 PM (X3lox)

392 384

>>Murder of a Diplomat and exhibition of his corpse, so far.

http://tinyurl.com/9x2aka6

Posted by: sickinmass at September 16, 2012 11:46 PM (bcNec)


Sodomizing a corpse to insult the dead person? I guess that's as good of an excuse as any.

Posted by: Achmed and Muhammad at September 16, 2012 11:49 PM (/YJYi)

393 >>>> Yes, they are sometime 'wrong' as hell, but. they are ture Morons...........

Posted by: Racefan at September 16, 2012 11:49 PM (hWB6v)

394 The fake Bin Laden — wearing a white robe, a head scarf and a fake wiry beard — has been pelted with paint bullets here several times a night, up to three nights a week, since the Sealed Mindset gun range began offering this role-playing experience in July.

The cost: $325 per person for two hours of Navy SEAL training and a chance to re-enact the military raid on Bin Laden’s three-story compound last year in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

“It was definitely an adrenaline rush,” Mr. Schneider, a 26-year-old blender salesman for Vitamix, said after he stormed the “scenario room,” a small maze of walls inside a renovated warehouse in suburban Minneapolis.

Posted by: Dr Sheldon Cooper at September 16, 2012 11:51 PM (e8kgV)

395 #380: For those of you that are trying to list legal crimes that were perpetrated, I would suggest you're going about it wrong.


You spelled right wrong.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (cq3QL)

396 We don't have elected leaders who want to do the right thing any more

their every action is weighed against their re-election chances, not what's good for the country

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (8sCoq)

397 181
I was in VA and I saw a bumper sticker with a picture of a dog that said "I bark for Barack".





Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at September 16, 2012 10:33 PM (9MyQd)

I run away from Barack, as fast as I can... He might eat me!!! And did somebody mention SQUIRRELS????

Posted by: George W Beagle at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (Xz3iS)

398 390 381
Roly-poly, tickle my holey.
Suck my slimey slew.
Roll my balls across the halls.
I'm one of the sporting crew.



Yikes. Pretty high on the gross out factor.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (GEICT)

399

Well, let me throw in metaphor for you, and maybe that will entertain y'all.


Suppose there's some poor girl in Syracuse is raped, and the guy who did it says that he was overcome with desire because he had heard about someothergirl having worn a skirt that exposed her knees - in Wyoming, a few months ago.

Further suppose that the mayor of Syracuse issues a statement condemning rape, but that it is nonetheless the fault of that slut in Wyoming, who should know better than to tease rapists.

That's a completely nutty story - an unimaginable one, really -but it's practically equivalent towhat the President of the United States is saying right now, just a couple months before his possible re-election, with his propaganda machine backing him up 1000%.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (As94z)

400 393....hmmmm.....

The good news is I'll be at Disneyland in six days.....while embassies burn, nuclear war breaks out, the dollar becomes fashionable as toilet paper, and the Chinese see if they can outdo Japanese imperialism pre-WWII, I'll be contemplating the length of the queue for the Matterhorn.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2012 11:52 PM (kaalw)

401 388,

About 2 days ago someone in a thread asked me something like, "So, uh, you're not joking about this Benghazi Delenda Est shit are you?'

Nope. I'm not.

Nearly all persons can name Carthage, and can tell its fate. It was laid waste by the Romans, and the ground salted so that nothing could ever grow there again. 2100 years later, people still know what happened when one city, no matter how powerful, crossed and dishonored Rome.

We have become a nation without honor. Men should be weeping in public because their honor has been lessened, and demanding the destruction of that city so that their honor can once again be whole.

The precedent that is being set here is lethal and dangerous in the extreme. If an Ambassador can be treated in this fashion, with absolute impunity, then so can each and every American citizen. For the sake of honor, Benghazi must be destroyed lest our enemies believe we are weak and do not object to our honor being slighted on the world stage.

Benghazi Delenda Est. I am not fucking joking. Lay that city to waste with nuclear fire. Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:53 PM (xutGe)

402 Frank Gore is a beast.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 16, 2012 11:53 PM (yx6fZ)

403 Well I always figured October 1979 would come around again but not quite this late in 2012


I was born in October 1979.


If history is indeed repeating, does that mean there's a little MWR duplicate preparing to be born out there, who will grow up to be a cynical woman who bitches about the commie President on the internet?


If so, would that make MWR Duplicate my padawan?


Because that would rule.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 16, 2012 11:54 PM (CA2NO)

404 Evening 'rons and 'ettes. Lurking while working. Sad news at Casa del Crank, our beloved St. Bernard has a splenic tumor and is going under the knife tomorrow. The vets say there is some hope that it may be benign.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at September 16, 2012 11:54 PM (d7H2D)

405 244
cq3QL: Do not taunt happy fun Ewok.


Posted by: butch at September 16, 2012 10:49 PM (nK2Sx)

OMG - that was one of the most hysterical SNL parody ads of all time! (ball, not Ewok, for those trying to figure it out...)

Posted by: CJHinTX at September 16, 2012 11:54 PM (Xz3iS)

406 392:Sodomizing a corpse to insult the dead person? I guess that's as good of an excuse as any.


My point is that I have only seen speculation as to rape. Hearing about lots of "reports" but not seeing them.

Posted by: AmeriDan at September 16, 2012 11:54 PM (cq3QL)

407 People who feel the urge to barf when witnessing another person throw up are both compassionate and highly evolved, say two medical experts on the stomach-turning topic.

A chick barfed on me one time, right before I thought we were going to, ah, get it on. I didn't barf, which maybe speaks to my lack of compassion and evolution, but most of all, it spoiled the mood.

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 11:54 PM (96M6e)

408 I'll be contemplating the length of the queue for the Matterhorn.

They fucked it up Cooth! the stupid new cars are way more uncomfortable than the old ones and they slowed it way the hell down.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:55 PM (ZpJso)

409
Wow, I try to make the point that if the attacks were a result of the video (and not pre-planned) that it would actually be a worse example of appeasement by Obama,
and am attacked by the goons here. I said "conservatives" not "you conservatives". Jeezus, I'm about as partisan a conservative as they get, but the irrational, reflexive circling of the wagons here is a bit creepy.

Posted by: biff at September 16, 2012 11:55 PM (9qOrR)

410 Dang, I met my wife in '79.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 16, 2012 11:55 PM (l3vZN)

411 378
On Election Night 2008, I quit watching TV news, including Fox.



Posted by: rickl at September 16, 2012 11:34 PM




For me, it was the next day -- and I also canceled the daily newspaper.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 16, 2012 11:56 PM (kaalw)

412 404
Evening 'rons and 'ettes. Lurking while working. Sad news at Casa del
Crank, our beloved St. Bernard has a splenic tumor and is going under
the knife tomorrow. The vets say there is some hope that it may be
benign.

Posted by: Conservative Crank, yet another work computer at September 16, 2012 11:54 PM (d7H2D)
Hoping for benign - the beagle and I send doggy prayers your way.


Posted by: CJHinTX at September 16, 2012 11:57 PM (Xz3iS)

413 398
Oh, yeah. That's actually pretty mild for the Hot Nuts. Used to see them at The Beach Club in North Myrtle Beach back when I was a teenager.
"Nuts, hot nuts, you get 'em from the peanut man.
Nuts, hot nuts, you get 'em any way you can."

Speaking of which, when I started Robert's original post (282?) I thought it was a fap story.

Posted by: Enby at September 16, 2012 11:57 PM (ptlfZ)

414 409,

SHUN THE NONBELIEVER! Hey, want to go visit the Big Rock Candy Mountain?

Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:58 PM (xutGe)

415 >Benghazi Delenda Est. I am not fucking joking. Lay that city to waste with nuclear fire. Benghazi Delenda Est.


Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:53 PM (xutGe)

It's not gonna happen. That America is gone.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 16, 2012 11:58 PM (8sCoq)

416 Benghazi Delenda Est. I am not fucking joking. Lay that city to waste with nuclear fire. Benghazi Delenda Est.
Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:53 PM (xutGe)

I want to lay Iran to nuclear waste and to reserve less extreme measures to places like Benghazi. But I do agree that a severe price should be paid. A SEVERE price.

Posted by: Scobface at September 16, 2012 11:58 PM (IoNBC)

417 Sending prayers and good vibes your way, Conservative Crank, and hoping your St. Bernard comes through with a clean bill of health.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 16, 2012 11:59 PM (CA2NO)

418 413 Enby, that WASN'T a fap story?

Posted by: jakeman at September 16, 2012 11:59 PM (96M6e)

419 They all stole the oil fields in the foced nationalizations of the
1960s. Time to take them back and put an end to the threats to
civilization that emanate from the APM world.
************
Sorry, that line of thinking presumes that the West somehow "owned" the oil fields and is thus entitled to "take them back". Do you want occupying armies in the mideast, forever?

Instead, we drill baby, drill, and reduce OUR dependence on the towelheaded sand fleas, and let the rest of the world figure out how to deal with their mindless savagery.

There's a good reason Arab Muslims are "the wretched of the earth". They have not only forsaken, but despised, modernity and thus find themselves envying what the West has, and hating themselves for not being able to produce it themselves.

Arab car factories?

Arab-made airplanes?

Arab internet providers?

Arab oil services companies (e.e. Hallibuton)?

Hah.

Appropriately, the last Arab contribution to civilization was the concept of zero, which they (of course) stole from the Indians.





Posted by: Zombie Red Adair at September 16, 2012 11:59 PM (41zfH)

420 Posted by: biff at September 16, 2012 11:55 PM (9qOrR)



Bit of, honestly, friendly advice. We're Morons, not goons. And the Morons have had a really shitty week. I do believe that most of us wanna go blow some shit up. In a very specific area. There's also been a bit of an influx of trolls recently. So yeah, the wagons will circle, the guns come out and ugliness ensues.

Shorter version: Horde is on a hair trigger after a shitty week

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 16, 2012 11:59 PM (GEICT)

421 OK, I'm out

and just when it starts getting interesting...

FWIW, I'm in the "dust off and nuke the site from orbit" camp

tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 16, 2012 11:59 PM (JMmQ9)

422 418 Well it sure sounded like a fap story. Or a lack of fap story, not that two weeks isn't a pretty good run.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 12:01 AM (ptlfZ)

Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2012 12:01 AM (2IW5Q)

424 (sorry, inadvertent post)

Posted by: Splunge at September 17, 2012 12:01 AM (2IW5Q)

425 Cato the Elder advocated for the razing of Carthage for 20 years before the Senate and People of the City of Rome came to their senses.

It took Hannibal raping the Italian countryside with elephants and fire for them to come around.

Those are the wages one receives for allowing foreign rivals to think they can question your honor and live. They show up with elephants and pwn your bases.

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:02 AM (xutGe)

426 Ah, yes -- China and Japan. That's a happy little corner of the world right now, ne? If I were Taiwan, I would be pissing my pants. And since Taiwan is a sizable island, those would be some large pants and quite a lot of piss.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 17, 2012 12:02 AM (CA2NO)

427 SHUN THE NONBELIEVER! Hey, want to go visit the Big Rock Candy Mountain?

Posted by: Hopeless at September 16, 2012 11:58 PM (xutGe)


Oh no! You're not gonna pull that one on me twice!

Posted by: Charlie the Unicorn at September 17, 2012 12:02 AM (sZTYJ)

428 422 Enby, well, yeah, that was what I was thinking. Dry run, as it were. Heh.

Posted by: jakeman at September 17, 2012 12:03 AM (96M6e)

429 The barf thing brings up some bad memories. While in college a few friends and I got some high school girls drunk on cheap red wine. So drunk that 2 of them passed out and one of them blew chunks all over a very valuable persian rug that my parents had in the den. While getting the girl cleaned up and washed off (gross, I know) we went back to the den to find that the dog had eaten all that that young lady deposited on the rug.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 17, 2012 12:03 AM (jucos)

430 426 Ah, yes -- China and Japan. That's a happy little corner of the world right now, ne? If I were Taiwan, I would be pissing my pants. And since Taiwan is a sizable island, those would be some large pants and quite a lot of piss.



Yeah but they got the backing of the US.....oh. Ooooooohhhhhh.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:03 AM (GEICT)

431
"385 ...It's OUR oil. The Arab Muslims could never have developed that resource on their own. Seize the damn oil fields. The left has already accused us of doing so, so we may as well go all the way. ..."


Um ... Are you aware that you pretty much just gave Obama's "You didn't build that" speech?

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:04 AM (As94z)

432 It seems among Emily Dickinson's writings, there was something about this years elections:

Because I could not stop to vote
my dead uncle kindly voted for me
Now we stand halfway between this life,
and a communist dictatorship.

He slowly drove he knew now haste
And soon Baryy had put away
The first ammendment, and the second too,
while claiming civility.

We passed the school, with children mired
By union workers demanding more pay...
We passed the fields where wheat once grew
We passed the failing dollar

Or rather he passed us;
The bloggers grew quivering and chill,
For all opposition was taken down,
My tippet now with hammer and sickle.

We paused before an embassy that seemed
a swelling of the ground
The roof was scarcely visible,
The cornice but a mound.

Since then 'tis 4 years, and yet each
Feels shorter than the day
I first surmised this horses' ass
Was toward socialist dictatorship.

Posted by: rich evil republican bastard at September 17, 2012 12:04 AM (/nCpZ)

433 So getting the urge to hurl in the presence of someone actually hurling is a sign of empathy? Fuck, and I thought my empathy meter was on the permanent fritz. Sigh.

True story. I usually got off work an hour or so before the wifey, so I did the pickup from daycare routine. So I pick up the two rugrats, and the puke started flying before I could get them in the house. Both of them, repeatedly. Me too once. So I corral them in the dining room where there was no carpet, do a bit of gag mopping, and call the wife. "Are you going to be home on time? Cuz I'm dying here. If you don't hurry, there will be puke for three awaiting you."

Women seem to have more of an immunity from puke than a man in my humble experience.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2012 12:04 AM (ccXZP)

434 There's also been a bit of an influx of trolls recently.


BCochran, I believe that might count as the understatement of the week. And it's got some stiff competition.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 17, 2012 12:05 AM (CA2NO)

435 pu[Yeah but they got the backing of the US.....oh. Ooooooohhhhhh.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:03 AM (GEICT)



Exaaaaaaactly.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO supporter at September 17, 2012 12:06 AM (CA2NO)

436 Benghazi Delenda Est.
Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:02 AM (xutGe)

Dude. The problem is Iran. If we kill Iran, Libya will fall into line.

Put me in the Iran Delena Est camp.

Nukes for Iran. Then reasonable accommodation for the rest of the goatfuckers.

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:06 AM (IoNBC)

437 They fucked it up Cooth! the stupid new cars are
way more uncomfortable than the old ones and they slowed it way the hell
down.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at September 16, 2012 11:55 PM (ZpJso)

I knew it was going to be fucked up, because they were taking out the two-person cuddle seating. Now if you ride it with your date, it might as well be virtual reality. I blame single-rider lines.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 12:06 AM (kaalw)

438 420,

Having one of their cities reduced to nothing with nuclear fire for the sake of our honor being vindicated would bring some calm to their rage.

The middle east only understands one thing: power. The currency of power was, is, and has always been honor. Once it is made clear to them, again, that God Almighty, who sets the place of all nations on Earth, has made us greater than them in all matters pertaining to honor, they will know their place and their rage will cease. For they do not have the power, nor the honor, to challenge us in any way. That is how things are done in the ME.

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:06 AM (xutGe)

439
1. Never barf because someone else does.
2. Geraldo is inconsequential.
3. If Mitt would have won in the previous-previous primary, we wouldn't be in this mess.
4. Hillary and Bill and Obama are my biggest Pet-Peeves.
5. After the Niners won I switched channels to "The Departed" and although I hate, hate, hate Hollywood, I take particular pleasure in seeing Matt Damon depict a loser.
P.S. The one love scene is my cup of tea.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 12:07 AM (y2Ojs)

440 429, Truck Monkey: Seems to me that is a good memory, not a bad one. Good boy, Fido!

Posted by: jakeman at September 17, 2012 12:07 AM (96M6e)

441 Um ... Are you aware that you pretty much just gave Obama's "You didn't build that" speech?
Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:04 AM


Um...No. It's the antithesis "They didn't build that" speech.

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 17, 2012 12:08 AM (JMmQ9)

442 Disordered pair: your scenario for "taking back" oil fields would require huge occupying armies, entire ports taken over and protected by "security", as well as heavily-guarded pipelines from the fields to the ports.

Do you have any analogous examples from history to show that your idea is valid? Because essentially you are advocating violating national sovereignty of other countries via an occupying force of soldiers and civilians.

How about some numbers for a start: tell us the annual expenditures to maintain such as system, as opposed to the annual net revenues from the oil we would get. You know, like the costs of hundreds of thousands of troops and the arms/materiel to maintain them, etc.

Until then, yours is just wishful thinking.

Posted by: Zombie Red Adair at September 17, 2012 12:08 AM (41zfH)

443 Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 16, 2012 11:37 PM (6zmHV)
Hi Theresa. My granddaughter said her first word, papa.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:09 AM (EPbpF)

444 here's my prediction for the next 50-100 years here in the US



things will get worse and more fucked up over time, because stupid Americans will eventually outnumber smart Americans


and then some foreign power, not constrained by silly bullshit politicians and a self-defeating culture, will have their way with us

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:09 AM (8sCoq)

445 434 There's also been a bit of an influx of trolls recently.


BCochran, I believe that might count as the understatement of the week. And it's got some stiff competition.



You think it was coincidence they showed while all the shit was happening? I mean, it was a concerted effort to disrupt the blog.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:09 AM (GEICT)

446 Hearing Featuring DOJ Inspector General Rescheduled for Thursday, September 20th

WASHINGTON – House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., today announced that the hearing previously scheduled for Wednesday, September 19th, to examine the Department of Justice Inspector General’s report on Operation Fast and Furious has been rescheduled for Thursday, September 20th. Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz has confirmed his attendance for the September 20th hearing where he will discuss his report of the investigation into reckless conduct in Operation Fast and Furious.

Hearing Details
“IG Report: The Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General Examines the Failures of Operation Fast and Furious”

Thursday, September 20th at 9:30 am in 2154 Rayburn House Office Building and streaming online at http://oversight.house.gov.

Witness
· Inspector General Michael Horowitz, U.S. Department of Justice

Posted by: Patrick Fitzgerald at September 17, 2012 12:09 AM (e8kgV)

447 One more thing to consider:

A big reason why we have ObamaCare today is because of Bush's mishandling of the Iraq War and the subsequent war fatigue of the public, which handed power to the Democrats.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:10 AM (d/5qf)

448 Scobface:

+1. The Iranians are at the heart of this. The Saudis and Pakis are cowards, and can be kept in line.

When the Pakis got froggy during the Bush admin, he sent Cheney to talk to them. Cheney was part of the nuke em from orbit camp after 9-11.

For some damned reason, the pakis suddenly started removing public AQ members ( although they continued to hide that puke Bin Laden ).

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:10 AM (0aV2C)

449 444 Jones in CO. You've seen "Idiocracy," I assume? If not, you might not want to.

Posted by: jakeman at September 17, 2012 12:10 AM (96M6e)

450 P.S. The one love scene is my cup of tea.



Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 12:07 AM (y2Ojs)


Anybody who likes sex to Pink Floyd is awesome in my book. Even as I'm about to hit the post button I'm not sure I should.........

Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 12:11 AM (/YJYi)

451
Posted by: biff at September 16, 2012 11:55 PM (9qOrR)

Cool your jets, man.I've been watching football all day and drinking beer, andI'm more used to lighthearted, joking, boobs, bacon and guns ONTs than serious stuff, as tonight's ONT seems to be.

We alsoget a lot of "concern trolls" here.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 12:12 AM (6zmHV)

452 431
"385 ...It's OUR oil. The Arab Muslims could never have developed that resource on their own. Seize the damn oil fields. The left has already accused us of doing so, so we may as well go all the way. ..."


Um ... Are you aware that you pretty much just gave Obama's "You didn't build that" speech?


No, I'm not seeing it. The Middle Eastern oil fields were developed by Western geologists, engineers, and oil companies. The Arabs could never have done that on their own.

The oil just happens to be under their land, so they legally "own" it. But they did nothing to earn it, and they would not have that wealth if not for the West.

Posted by: rickl at September 17, 2012 12:13 AM (sdi6R)

453 Q: But you also mentioned you might change the image of the United States in the world in the talk that you gave tonight.

Obama: Well, and I believe that's true. I think that the day I'm inaugurated, the world will look at America differently. America will look at itself differently. And that's more than just symbolic, that is political capital that can be used to make America safer, and to restore its standing in the world.

Posted by: Theodoric of York at September 17, 2012 12:14 AM (e8kgV)

454 and then some foreign power, not constrained by silly bullshit politicians and a self-defeating culture, will have their way with us


There's how much in the way of privately owned firepower in this country. Plus a half a dozen different types of terrain. Massive physical land mass. No, anybody shows up landing troops is in for a rude awakening.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:14 AM (GEICT)

455 Anybody who likes sex to Pink Floyd is awesome in my book. Even as I'm
about to hit the post button I'm not sure I should.........
Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 12:11 AM (/YJYi)


C'mon baby, you know you wanna hit it.

Posted by: Fembot Fluke's little red post button at September 17, 2012 12:14 AM (ptlfZ)

456 448,

One of those interesting things lost in the shuffle of history. Cheney was always FAR more hawkish than folks realized, and things playing out the way they did was NOT "Cheney getting his way." Rather it was, "A compromise position that was as small as we could get Cheney to agree to."

He really was in the "nuke it from orbit" camp after 9/11. It's a shame we didn't settle this shit with a tactical nuclear warhead on a cruise missile being flown into Tora Bora, collapsing the entire mountain down upon itself.

Would have saved us a lot of blood and treasure. Would have let that fucktard Saddam know we were serious, and would have saved a lot of lives.

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:14 AM (xutGe)

457 >Jones in CO. You've seen "Idiocracy," I assume? If not, you might not want to.

Posted by: jakeman at September 17, 2012 12:10 AM (96M6e)

Oh, I've seen it all right
at first I thought it was a comedy, until Obama got elected. Now I see it as sort of a preview of things to come


Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:14 AM (8sCoq)

458 448 Kristophr,

Bush told the Pakis point blank 'if you are not with us, you are the enemy too'. Kinda makes things a little more immediate to your survival. Then again, they only complied.....for a while. Now, they don't really give a crap anymore since they know how weak our leadership is.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2012 12:16 AM (ccXZP)

459 Libya is about as deserving of an attack right now as Kenya was when Al Qaeda blew up our embassy there in '98--we'd be doing it's work for them. I understand being pissed and blowing off steam, but out of the countries/organizations to be pissed at (Iran, Egypt, Al Qaeda...) Libya's pretty far down the list if it's there at all.

Posted by: AD at September 17, 2012 12:16 AM (/D7/G)

460 >Anybody who likes sex to Pink Floyd is awesome in my book.

Lost my virginity to "Dark Side of the Moon"

Posted by: Jones in CO is awesome at September 17, 2012 12:16 AM (8sCoq)

461
Awww, Lou, that's too sweet!

On another subject, our teams didn't have such a good day today, did they? I had to take comfort in the fact that even "perfect" guys like Tom Brady had an off day, too.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 12:16 AM (6zmHV)

462 The ambassador represents the authority of the US, and his person is supposed to be untouchable. Wars have begun over perceived insults to ambassadors, let alone the murder of one, Put me firmly in the "kill em all" camp now.
Posted by: DC in Towson at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (CJwi5)

Exactly. It's pretty clear that Obama doesn't understand just how *personally* he should be taking this, and that's why he's not upset. In a very real way, an ambassador is a living extension of the Head of State so the murder of one is meant to be a direct insult to the president, not jus the nation.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 17, 2012 12:16 AM (chdbY)

463 sokoff

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (8sCoq)

464 457 a preview of things to come

TFG might not be as buff or eloquent as President Camacho, but I could see him implementing a Dil-dozer in his second term.

Posted by: jakeman at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (96M6e)

465 Plus, well-known right-wing shill Glenn Greenwald on Obama, Speech Suppresssion, and Democratic Excuses For Same.


Let's begin with the Democrats. On Thursday, the Obama White House called executives at Google, the parent company of YouTube, and "requested" that the company review whether the disgusting anti-Muslim film that has sparked such unrest should be removed on the ground that it violates YouTube's terms of service.

In response, free speech groups such as the ACLU and EFF expressed serious concerns about the White House's actions. While acknowledging that there was nothing legally compulsory about the White House's request (indeed, Google announced the next day they would leave the video up), the civil liberties groups nonetheless noted – correctly – that "it does make us nervous when the government throws its weight behind any requests for censorship", and that "by calling YouTube from the White House, they were sending a message no matter how much they say we don't want them to take it down; when the White House calls and asks you to review it, it sends a message and has a certain chilling effect".

Right-wing commenters loudly decried the White House's actions on free speech grounds. Some of their rhetoric was overblown (the sentiment behind the request was understandable, and they did nothing to compel its removal). But, for reasons made clear by the ACLU and EFF, these conservative objections were largely correct.

Posted by: Ming the Merciless at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (e8kgV)

466
Re: 450
No worries Adam.
I'll just keep thinking you're Adam Baldwin and things will be A-OK.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (y2Ojs)

467 454,

You're thinking about it wrong. Things like that don't start off overtly (in terms of domestic invasion etc), but pick up momentum until one day you wake up and realize that everything is different.

There is that old phrase, "How did this fall apart?" "Slowly first, and then all at once."

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (xutGe)

468 Sorry - I'm always late. What happened on the prev thread that Ace got pissed about? Also, 'sup?

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (cQmXn)

469 Gnubreed: Of course it was only for a while. All diplomacy is temporary.

Once Obama was elected, it was Katey bar the door.

During the Bush admin, we were worried about Russia invading Georgia. During the Obama admin, we couldn't be sure the Russians wouldn't take Atlanta as well.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (0aV2C)

470 Good evening my virtual moron friends

Posted by: zeera at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (XtxRN)

471 >It's pretty clear that Obama doesn't understand just how *personally* he should be taking this, and that's why he's not upset.



Look, the guy's trying to get re-elected. This is all that matters to Obama - all this icky Libya/muslim/whatzit stuff is very distracting to our President during this difficult time

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:20 AM (8sCoq)

472 Bullshit AD.

The Libyan troops assigned to guard the embassy turned the ambassador over to AQ. They were not rushing him to the hospital.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:20 AM (0aV2C)

473 I saw a pic from the new Robocop reboot at the dailymail, his suit is uh interesting.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at September 17, 2012 12:20 AM (NzBQO)

474 Compared to Romney''s 14% charitable giving in 2010, here's the record on TFG:

Below is Obama's charitable giving expressed as percentage of his income for the years 2000 to 2006:

2000: 0.9%
2001: 0.5%
2002: 0.4%
2003: 1.4%
2004: 1.2%
2005: 4.7%
2006: 6.1%

I guess the Rev. Wright didn't advocate tithing, or Teh Won didn't give a shit. I pick B.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2012 12:21 AM (ccXZP)

475 Still here. Jameson and ginger. Restaurant impossible. Robert irvine is a genius.

Still all aggro and hatey in here?

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 17, 2012 12:21 AM (CJwi5)

476 461 Awww, Lou, that's too sweet! On another subject, our teams didn't have such a good day today, did they? I had to take comfort in the fact that even "perfect" guys like Tom Brady had an off day, too.
Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 12:16 AM (6zmHV)
Yeah, my Raiders seem to be inept at everything. Sadly, I am becoming used to it with this team after the last too many years.
Hubby was right, we fire our coaches all the time, too many coaches, no consistency. And the Patriots loss cost us a winningticket, bastadds

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:21 AM (EPbpF)

477 Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:18 AM (xutGe)



Yeah, but that's even less likely now. New media, international media, google, etc. Sneaky shit on that scale is much harder to pull off now than it was 40 yrs ago. Not saying it can't happen, just not likely IMO.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:21 AM (GEICT)

478 >Sorry - I'm always late. What happened on the prev thread that Ace got pissed about?


somebody put out their Kools on his rug

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:22 AM (8sCoq)

479 A senior Iranian official says US President Barack Obama could face legal action in connection with the production of an anti-Islam movie by an American Jew.

“A complaint could be filed with US courts against Obama for his violation of articles 18 and 27 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) calling for respect of faiths,” Javad Mohammadi, the deputy head of the Supreme Council of Cultural Revolution (SCCR), said on Sunday.

“Article 18 and 27 of the ICCPR, adopted by the United Nation, stipulate that the religion and the rights of the minorities should be respected,” Mohammadi said.

The US government is a signatory to this covenant and has to respect it. Therefore, an individual or an NGO (non-governmental organization) can file a lawsuit against the president of the country for breach of the covenant, he added.

Posted by: Notorious B.I.G. at September 17, 2012 12:22 AM (e8kgV)

480 That Greenwald fellow does go on, doesn't he.

Posted by: Barky's little web off button at September 17, 2012 12:23 AM (ptlfZ)

481 The Libyan troops assigned to guard the embassy turned the ambassador over to AQ. They were not rushing him to the hospital.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:20 AM (0aV2C)


Those weren't Libyan troops (at least I don't believe they were); they were security guards. There were four of them. One gave them up.

That's not a reason to attack a country. Especially since, given Al Qaeda's practices lately, he could have easily been a mole, and especially if it's true that Libya gave us a warning three days earlier.

Posted by: AD at September 17, 2012 12:23 AM (/D7/G)

482 "The US government is a signatory to this covenant and has to respect it.
Therefore, an individual or an NGO (non-governmental organization) can
file a lawsuit against the president of the country for breach of the
covenant, he added."

That's hilariously stupid.

Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:24 AM (eEeH7)

483 somebody put out their Kools on his rug


And then got pissy because "I see other kids doing it"

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:24 AM (GEICT)

484 I can't wait 'til that Cankles speech about "carrying Chris to the hospital" can be deployed against her! What the ...?! She knew she was lying! She just thinks the voters are stupid, and I guess I can't disagree.

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 12:24 AM (cQmXn)

485 Hopeless, your views are ca-ca. Madman-ish.

We, and no nation, should kill thousands of innocent people, just because our "honor" has been besmirched.

This isn't a case of being in a formal, declared war with another country (e.g. Japan).

This is a case where an armed group of terrorists, likely from many countries, have seized on the opportunity to wreak havoc against Americans in a country without a stable working government.

You are either a troll, a fool, or both.

Take yer pick.




Posted by: Pre-Zombie Henry Kissinger at September 17, 2012 12:24 AM (41zfH)

486 The US government is a signatory to this covenant and has to respect it. Therefore, an individual or an NGO (non-governmental organization) can file a lawsuit against the president of the country for breach of the covenant, he added.
Posted by: Notorious B.I.G. at September 17, 2012 12:22 AM (e8kgV)

No way, New world Order, surely you josh!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:25 AM (EPbpF)

487 The oil just happens to be under their land, so they
legally "own" it. But they did nothing to earn it, and they would not
have that wealth if not for the West.

Posted by: rickl at September 17, 2012 12:13 AM (sdi6R)


Actually, the better argument is that they shook hands on a deal, the West moved in and did the heavy lifting, then they expropriated the results. If the old deals were revisited and paid for -- based on the price of oil today after a subsequent 50 years of mismanagement and blackmail -- the resulting payments would wipe out any value accumulated in the countries involved.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 12:25 AM (kaalw)

488 481,

I know you're not replying to me, but to clarify my position:

I'm not advocating a single troop on the ground, additional bombings. I am advocating a single action.

The complete and total razing of Benghazi with nuclear fire.

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:25 AM (xutGe)

489 "The US government is a signatory to this covenant and has to respect it.

Therefore, an individual or an NGO (non-governmental organization) can

file a lawsuit against the president of the country for breach of the

covenant, he added."



Yeah who's gonna file a lawsuit AGAINST Obama.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at September 17, 2012 12:25 AM (NzBQO)

490 kalneva: an old bigot who was butthurt about not being allowed to make black joke earlier this year showed up to act butthurt about some of the less politically correct things some morons were saying while fapping over the pretty Asian cheerleader.

Ace had to fire up his PC on his night off to tell him to knock it off, and the bigot tried to go full retard on Ace.

Actually CAPS yelled at him, and locked the thread. Then B@hammered him when he proved impervious to clues and started bitching in this thread as well.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:26 AM (0aV2C)

491 There's a problem with us using TNWs: it will make their use acceptable by anyone with a similar greviance. Trying to limit use to only the exact same greviance won't work; we already see that the muslims regard any adverse comment against Mo as worthy of revenge-killing.

However, sending in a couple of Marine brigades to encircle Bengazi and cut all power and water to the city should work nicely. I think the locals would deliver all of the perps to the CG within 10 days.

I view this as a 2 week exercise in explaining reality to the arab muslim mind.

Posted by: Arbalest at September 17, 2012 12:27 AM (JKJcb)

492 BC, who was the Jap admiral who said he would never attempt an invasion of the American mainland because there would be "a rifle behind every blade of grass"?

I'm far more *concerned* about domestic unrest than a foreign invasion. But, the one could lead to the other.

Can we get back to the boobehs and recipes now? Please?

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 17, 2012 12:27 AM (CJwi5)

493 hopeless: I agree that it would be the best way to discipline Dar Al Islam ... but it ain't going to happen, unless an American city gets nuked.

That is just then way it is.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:28 AM (0aV2C)

494 Thanks, Kristophr. Glad I was in absentia for that one.

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 12:29 AM (cQmXn)

495
'441 Um...No. It's the antithesis "They didn't build that" speech.'


"If you had an oil field, and you decided you wanted to make a zillion dollars in theoil business- you didn't build that. That was built by other governments, who allowed you to own that oil field, by the American oil companies who built the factories, by the other countries of the world who police the waters that the oil tankers sail through, by the companies who built those oil tankers, by the other companies who came in and built those pipelines. ... "


Do I really have toadd a partabout roads for oil trucks to drive down?


If you're going to rant like that, at least talk about the Saudis nationalizing some foreign company assets (if that happened), or SOMETHING. Don't be showing such utter contempt for personal property rights and act shocked that someone would suggest that you're taking a page from Obama's book.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:29 AM (As94z)

496 Since I'm sure Obama is looking at this thread for advice on how to explain the American POV to the Muslim world, here's some help for Dear Leader:

Many of you want the US to implement blasphemy laws. Boy, I'd love that too (you have no idea...the things they say about me!) but here's the thing. In addition to the right to free speech, Americans believe that with freedom comes responsibility, and individuals are responsible for their own behavior. We don't punish someone for another person's bad behavior. In other words, if your people riot, kill or destroy, they are entirely responsible for those behaviors. Therefor we will not change our laws or bend to Sharia in any way because that would punish the innocent, not to mention our constitution prevents that. Sorry guys, I personally love Sharia, but these Americans are stubborn. Love, Barry. Praise Allah!

p.s. I think I read the teleprompter correctly, but since I don't know what the hell any of this means, if you have any questions, my good friend Billy Jeff can explain it better.

Posted by: Mayday at September 17, 2012 12:29 AM (F3s39)

497
early voting calendar

http://reed.edu/earlyvoting/calendar/

MI/MN/WI/VA/NH all begin accepting absentee ballots in less than a week

Posted by: Jose at September 17, 2012 12:29 AM (srIqv)

498 The oil just happens to be under their land, so they legally "own" it. But they did nothing to earn it, and they would not have that wealth if not for the West.
Posted by: rickl at September 17, 2012 12:13 AM (sdi6R)

I don't disagree with the moral argument that we could take their fucking oil. We would be morally within our rights to do so. Fuck 'em.

My argument is that it would be much better, much cheaper, and much less forceful for us to
make their oil irrelavent by developing our own sources of energy.

The energy world is changing, not in an incremental way, but in a revolutionary way.

If we have a government that adopts a policy of unabashedly exploiting ALL of our energy resources NOW, we can be energy self-sufficient within a few years.

Doing that would render the muslim world nutless. Absolutely nutless.

And the effort involved in doing that would be to our benefit: Good fucking companies paying high wages to American workers who desparately need jobs.

Where's the downside?

Nuke Iran. Tell the rest of the goatfucking community, "You could be next." Achieve energy independence.

New world order.

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:30 AM (IoNBC)

499 Look - you people advocating we take our revenge on Benghazi are whistling in the wind. The current national leadership is not interested. Most of the media is not interested.

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:31 AM (8sCoq)

500 "If Mitt Romney had kept his mouth shut, if he had not acted like a rank amateur, if he had not embarrassed himself"

And how,pray tell,is Mitt Romney supposed to avoid "embarrassing himself" by having the media take a very mild, presidential-sounding statement and screaming "GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFFFFFFFFEEEEEEE!"
over and over until morons believe it actually was one?

"-and by the way internally the campaign understands they screwed up, he's moved on, they know that. But Romney got in the way of the media looking at the president, going, wha-, wha-, what happened here?"


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's cute. So,just to be clear Joe Scarborough, you actually BELIEVE the media would have focused on Obama's failures if Romney hadn't spoken, when they FABRICATED a reason NOT to talk about Obama's foreign policies (Romney's "gaffe") and pounded a dead horse for several days to the point where even THEY were probably tired of hearing their bullshit?

Posted by: thereforIam at September 17, 2012 12:31 AM (VLauU)

501 @19 Amen to that. I remember my first (unfortunate) experience hearing him on the radio, wondering who this political hack of an imbecile was and how a so-called "conservative" could possibly be that abysmally clueless about anything *remotely* conservative. He's not even a fiscal one, so I suppose his "conservative" credentials come from the fact that he's more "conservative" than, for example, the average HuffPo diarist.

Of course, that's basically like saying that Saturn is right next to the Earth just because Pluto's farther. But Morning Joe doesn't exactly practice Earth logic.

Posted by: The Ghost of Flannery O'Connor at September 17, 2012 12:31 AM (WE5bx)

502 I'm far more *concerned* about domestic unrest than a foreign invasion. But, the one could lead to the other.

Location matters. Take the DC sniper. My wife's fam was up there right where it was going on. People were living in total fear. How would that scenario have played out in, say, Texas? Fear? Sure. But I'm guessing you would've had a lot of armed people keeping a serious lookout for him.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:31 AM (GEICT)

503 BC, who was the Jap admiral who said he would never attempt an invasion of the American mainland because there would be "a rifle behind every blade of grass"?

I thought it was Isoroku Yamamoto who that was attributed to.

Posted by: OregonMuse at September 17, 2012 12:33 AM (yx6fZ)

504 "My argument is that it would be much better, much cheaper, and much less forceful for us to
make their oil irrelavent by developing our own sources of energy...Doing that would render the muslim world nutless. Absolutely nutless."

Wrong. Europe, Japan, and China sure will get cheaper energy, though.

Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:33 AM (eEeH7)

505 485
Hopeless, your views are ca-ca. Madman-ish.

We, and no nation, should kill thousands of innocent people, just because our "honor" has been besmirched.

This isn't a case of being in a formal, declared war with another country (e.g. Japan).

This
is a case where an armed group of terrorists, likely from many
countries, have seized on the opportunity to wreak havoc against
Americans in a country without a stable working government.

You are either a troll, a fool, or both.

Take yer pick.






Posted by: Pre-Zombie Henry Kissinger at September 17, 2012 12:24 AM (41zfH)


Actually, there's a good practical reason to punish a host country for damages to embassies and ambassadors. Countries have a lot of things going on, and must prioritize where resources will be allocated. It's very easy for a government to put the security of ambassadors at somewhere between "clean toilets in the national parks" and "streetlights on country roads."

If having an embassy invaded and ambassador killed meant more than a diplomatic contretemps -- as in, carpet-bombing a major city, perhaps -- then the priorities would be clarified for future ambassadors. As it is, if I were on the US diplomatic staff in any predominately Muslim country, my notice would be in and I would in GTFO mode.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 12:35 AM (kaalw)

506 485,

The Roman Republic stood for 8 centuries before it devolved into an Empire. Ours is struggling to make it to 3. Maybe we should take a few pointers?

You are ignorant of both history and the culture we are dealing with. And it seems you value other things above honor, which is alien to me.

I am amicable to giving 24 hours notice so that women, children, and the elderly may flee. The people of Benghazi are without honor, because they allowed this to happen to an honored guest in their midst. They could have taken to the streets and hung all of those responsible for this of their own accord, for the people know who they are and where they hide.

Our Ambassador did not have his body recovered by the women of that town. Their tears did not wet the pavement before and after his body was lead in an honorable funeral procession, according to local customs, to a mosque of renown to be housed in repose until returned to its native place.

No day of mourning was declared for our Ambassador. The mothers of Benghazi did not volunteer to return with his corpse to America, so as to join our Ambassador's mother in mourning and weeping.

The men provided his corpse with no honor guard. The children played no dirge. The elderly of Benghazi did not stand up to remind the young that there was once a time when Benghazi was a city of honor and its citizens acted with honor.

No, they did none of those things. They are the uncivilized. The madmen. The crazies. They are Barbarians. And from the dawn of recorded human history, those of us that dwell behind the city gates have known: there is only one way you deal with Barbarians. You kill them where they stand.

Benghazi Delenda Est.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:35 AM (xutGe)

507 Recipes? Oh goody. I have a question. Ex used to make a sauce that started with a Burgundy wine in which dove breasts had ben baked. Any ideas what she might have added besides the sour cream. The dove meat was removed from the bones, onto noodles and the sauce poured over all. Incredible.

Posted by: teej at September 17, 2012 12:36 AM (bxpf3)

508 BC: It was amazing that they caught those two.

No one had any clue they were using a small loophole cut in the back of a large old car.

If they hadn't tried to supplement their cash supply with a robbery, and had simply returned home instead, they would have simply gotten away with it.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 12:36 AM (0aV2C)

509 Hi lous a girl, that is so sweet about your little granddaughter

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:36 AM (d/5qf)

510 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at September 16, 2012 11:41 PM (RLZvP)

Lol, the comment I got the "thread closed" message on was about WoW as well. As an exceptionally lazy player I actually like having my choices confined (and my son just started so doesn't know anything different), but I can see how it could be a deal-breaker for veteran players. I'm actually looking forward to the critter raising, possibly because I don't generally do PvP.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 17, 2012 12:36 AM (chdbY)

511 >Wrong. Europe, Japan, and China sure will get cheaper energy, though.

Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:33 AM (eEeH7)

my knowledge of economics would fit on a cereal box, but wouldn't bringing new sources of oil to the international serve to market lower prices?

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:36 AM (8sCoq)

512 BC, I was in Tennessee when that was going down, but even in sub-rural Maryland, my folks were going nuts. Of course thier only protection is a L&R .22 and a remmy 12.

Oh, how I wish I lived in a free state.

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 17, 2012 12:37 AM (CJwi5)

513 Wrong. Europe, Japan, and China sure will get cheaper energy, though.
Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:33 AM (eEeH7)

That makes no sense. Would you care to explain?

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:37 AM (IoNBC)

514 509 Hi lous a girl, that is so sweet about your little granddaughter
Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:36 AM (d/5qf)
Yep shes a smart baby. Bald as hell, but cute. Love her!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:37 AM (EPbpF)

515 Look - you people advocating we take our revenge on Benghazi are
whistling in the wind. The current national leadership is not
interested. Most of the media is not interested.


yeah, and even if we did, it would so thoroughly revolt most people in this country that it would mean handing over power to the left for a generation or more.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:38 AM (d/5qf)

516 Kristoph, would love to continue to spitball with you, but folks, I should've been asleep 2 hrs ago. Have a good night! Don't break the blog!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:39 AM (GEICT)

517 "my knowledge of economics would fit on a cereal box, but wouldn't
bringing new sources of oil to the international serve to market lower
prices?"

In the short term. But perhaps you've noticed the rapidly increasing costs of energy these last ten or fifteen years? Consumption in most of the rest of the world is outpacing production, especially in China, India, and Africa (which is drilling everywhere they can). Cheaper oil will fuel their industrialization. The Arabs will not go bust. They have PLENTY of other customers.

Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:40 AM (eEeH7)

518 If you're going to rant like that, at least talk
about the Saudis nationalizing some foreign company assets (if that
happened), or SOMETHING.


Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:29 AM (As94z)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 12:40 AM (kaalw)

519 A very young Jimmy Page. Must see, if you haven't already. The host goes off the creepy meter


.
http://tinyurl.com/5dwduf


Posted by: Craig Poe at September 17, 2012 12:40 AM (BVkEs)

520
Recipes? Oh goody. I have a question. Ex used to make a sauce that
started with a Burgundy wine in which dove breasts had ben baked. Any
ideas what she might have added besides the sour cream. The dove meat
was removed from the bones, onto noodles and the sauce poured over all.
Incredible.




Sounds like Coq-au-Vin. One of the only good things to come out of France.



I'll be making a big pot of that as soon as the temperature drops in the fall.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 12:41 AM (/izg2)

521 498
My argument is that it would be much better, much cheaper, and much less forceful for us to
make their oil irrelavent by developing our own sources of energy.


Oh, I absolutely agree with that. We have vast energy resources right here in North America that we could exploit, if our own damn government would get out of the way.

But in the meantime, it wouldn't hurt to cut off the Muslims' source of money, which is oil. Seizing and holding territory would be much easier than "nation building", "winning hearts and minds", and all that crap.

Posted by: rickl at September 17, 2012 12:42 AM (sdi6R)

522
"462 The ambassador represents the authority of the US, and his person is supposed to be untouchable. Wars have begun over perceived insults to ambassadors, let alone the murder of one, Put me firmly in the "kill em all" camp now.
Posted by: DC in Towson at September 16, 2012 11:16 PM (CJwi5)

Exactly. It's pretty clear that Obama doesn't understand just how *personally* he should be taking this, and that's why he's not upset. In a very real way, an ambassador is a living extension of the Head of State so the murder of one is meant to be a direct insult to the president, not just the nation."


No, no, no, Polli! Let me 'splain! This only occurred to me yesterday, actually.

Obama is taking this VERY personally. But, almost all Obama behavior can be explianed (in order of importance): (1) unbridled narcissism (2) socialism (3) anti-colonialism or (4) cronyism.

This is all about (1), narcissism. The only way he can protect his ego, and still explain what's going on is to LITERALLY buy this completelyretarded BS that "I wouldn't be being embarrassed right now, and have to take time out from my adoring crowds of worshipers, if not for that blankety-blank film-maker in CA." (This is really kind of a Scooby Do moment, really!) So he is taking this extremely personally, but he is venting his narcissistic rage ON THE FILM-MAKER!

He could give a crap about the ambassador, or the insult to the soveriegn territory of the US. He considers our presence there an act of colonialism that deserves to be assaulted anyway.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:42 AM (As94z)

523 Hopeless, I (used to) tend to take a more moderate stance, but I agree with your rant 100%. I can't logically argue with it, but you and I both know it ain't gonna fucking happen.

The days of massive displays of strength are long past. Unfortunately.

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 17, 2012 12:43 AM (CJwi5)

524 aargghh! Have you guys all heard my hair-dresser story? If so, skip through. When was the last huge "oil companies making obscene profits"! Profits that Hillary said she wanted to "take"? Somewhere around 2006? Anyhoo, I was in the hairchair, getting a haircut, when my independent haircutter guy starts going off on how the oil companies shouldn't be allowed to make a profit, natural resources, making money off poor people, blah, blah, blah. Now, here I am, getting a haircut for which I will be expected to pony up not only his listed charge, $55.00, but I will be expected to tip, also, around $20. You can guess what I wanted to say, which I could not say, because this man had shears in his hand and I was a hapless victim to hear all his spewage against the evil oil companies. Never went back. Needless to say. I only wish I had sent him a little cordial note detailing why I wouldn't be patronizing him ever again. If this happened today, I totally would. Back then, it was just starting to foment.

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 12:44 AM (cQmXn)

525 Kristophr, et all,

I know that I am whistling in the wind.

I encourage folks to read up on wiki about, "Carthago Delenda Est"

Cato the Elder protested for 20 years, until the Carthaginians were raping the italian countryside with elephants-- ELEPHANTS-- before the Senate and the People of the City of Rome realized that he was correct.

It ended with Carthage being razed, and the ground salted. And nearly every person in the West can still relate the story of Carthage.

The lesson was learned.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:44 AM (xutGe)

526 That Barky sum bitch is one dumb ass and a studdering fukker as well


Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 12:44 AM (2CiZb)

527 The whole 'middle east blowing up' thing only matters to Obama in how it affects his re-election prospects


and it only registers with the media for the same reason: how does this affect the Presidential race?

that's America, sad to say

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:45 AM (8sCoq)

528 Cheaper oil will fuel their industrialization. The Arabs will not go bust. They have PLENTY of other customers.
Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:40 AM (eEeH7)

So what? If we can meet our energy needs, which is a foregone conclusion given the rapidly-changing nature of our energy technology, who gives a shit what China or India pays?

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:45 AM (IoNBC)

529 Thanks NC. I'll look that up.

Posted by: teej at September 17, 2012 12:46 AM (osdNx)

530 Another POV is that each person is created in the image and likeness of God, and that the duty of each Christian is to help them arrive at that understanding.

I subscribe to that, personally, but admit that it doesn't go very far from a practical standpoint. I prefer to consider that many, many of the world's people, including many in the US, are simply unfree.

Pope Paul VI came up with a nice formulation: "Man is truly human only if he is the master of his own actions and the judge of their worth, only if he is the architect of his own progress."

As free individuals, this gives us something to say, and to live, in every interaction with every other individual.

*yawn*

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 12:47 AM (ptlfZ)

531 498
My argument is that it would be much better, much cheaper, and much less forceful for us to
make their oil irrelavent by developing our own sources of energy.


you have heard of economics and physics? yes? you dumb ass


oil works way better that the hot air comming out of your face or the farts out of your buthole


no mastter how much you personally hate oil, windmils and solar farms ain't going to cut it



Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 12:48 AM (2CiZb)

532
"518 If you're going to rant like that, at least talk
about the Saudis nationalizing some foreign company assets (if that
happened), or SOMETHING.


Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:29 AM (As94z)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco"

Exactly! If you're going to lay some sort of claim, it should start with how they screwed over our oil companies. You should be talking about the details of that, not "you didn't build that" socialist propaganda.

You could definitely argue that they owe SOMETHING, but I'm seeing that they ever sold all the rights to all their oil to anybody.

I am excited to see the suggestion that we develop our own resources, and tell those psychos to go f-themselves. Their oil fields are at maturity - we should be seeing them wane in importance over the next few decades.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:49 AM (As94z)

533 Yep shes a smart baby. Bald as hell, but cute. Love her!
Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:37 AM (EPbpF)

Heh, my wittle girl was bald as hell, too, still has no eye-brows (no, she does, but they're very blond) and she married someone even fairer than she. She jokes about having naked mole babies!

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 12:49 AM (cQmXn)

534 Can we talk about Kate Middleton's boobehs now?

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:49 AM (8sCoq)

535 I'm not sure if my two new fish don't actually like each other or if they have this weird D/S thing going on. They keep chasing each other around and poking each other.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:50 AM (d/5qf)

536 523,

Thank you. In the absence of nuclear fire, I recommend praying the Rosary. It is a more potent and powerful weapon than any warhead.

The one redeeming feature of the muzzies is that they genuinely have great regard for the Blessed Virgin Mary.

She appeared in Zeitoun Egypt in the 1960s, Our Lady of Zeitoun. It is through learning about Mary Most Holy that many of those savages have been converted, and come to follow the Lord. Also on wiki, and very interesting.

Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:51 AM (xutGe)

537 Recipe, don't buy microwave popcorn.
Strange but true, I bring homemade popcorn to parties, and people freak out, they ask me how to make it? I am always like, are you shitting me?
Pan, oil, popcorn, butter, salt, yummy. Not to difficult.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:51 AM (EPbpF)

538 Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 12:48 AM (2CiZb)

It's quite rare that a truly retarded person comments here. You're something of a pioneer. I hope you take pride in that.

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:51 AM (IoNBC)

539 I'm finna go to bed, so I'm going to drop some final comments.

Re: Seize their oil wells. Cost prohibitive, politically and otherwise. As an alternative, you could just seal the wells. A few hundred pounds of explosives at the right depth will shut down a field, and the Arabs are absolutely incapable of efficiently repair. Doesn't mean they won't get Chinese or Europeans to do it, though. Waster effort, IMHO.

Re: Energy independence as a way to bankrupt the Middle East. If only. But we only get something like 18% of our energy (and falling) from them. Europe, China, Japan, and India are far more dependent (in case you ever wondered why the Europeans are so absurdly pro-Arab, wonder no more; well, that and they hate Jews). So while if we could use our own energy rather than importing it would be convenient for us, but it will hardly put the screws to the Arabs. Rather, it will withdraw our primary strategic interest in the region as well as our leverage; if we aren't elbow deep in the oil trade, why would the Saudis give a fuck about our opinions?

We do not live in a vacuum. American action and consumption is not the end-all of foreign policy. But it is a peculiar conceit of Americans, for some reason, though it tends to affect liberals worse. Example: "We have to ban X to save the earth!!1!" Well, what about the billions of people in Asia who think you're a fucking moron, and are grateful that the price of X has fallen and will how use the hell out of it to advance their societies, pumping more X into the ecosystem than you ever dreamed of? They never think of that. Or if they do, they don't admit it.

American hawks are sometimes the same.

Posted by: dawnfire at September 17, 2012 12:51 AM (eEeH7)

540 Kate, Kate, how I dream of Kate.

Posted by: Fembot Fluke at September 17, 2012 12:51 AM (ptlfZ)

541 They keep chasing each other around and poking each other.
Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:50 AM (d/5qf)

it is called figguring out who is for lunch

Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 12:52 AM (2CiZb)

542 You bet teej...if it turns out to be what you're looking for, buy a beer for chemjeff for me when y'all get together.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 12:52 AM (/izg2)

543
@531

I don't think they were talking about green energy, and you might want to start thinking about calling it a night, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:53 AM (As94z)

544 Bald as hell, but cute. Love her!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:37 AM (EPbpF)


awesome, I am sure what hair she lacks now she will make up for it in the future

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:53 AM (d/5qf)

545 Did someone say Kate Middleton?

http://tinyurl.com/9fz6tox

not topless but the equipment is prominently displayed

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:54 AM (d/5qf)

546 it is called figguring out who is for lunch

Well they are both guppies and both the same size, so I don't know if that is even physically possible.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:54 AM (d/5qf)

547 534 Can we talk about Kate Middleton's boobehs now?
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:49 AM (8sCoq)

Tan lines? Yes, please. Damnitall, fucktheworld, Cougar is passed out and that means no fun time for DC. *angry face*

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 17, 2012 12:55 AM (CJwi5)

548 Heh, my wittle girl was bald as hell, too, still has no eye-brows (no, she does, but they're very blond) and she married someone even fairer than she. She jokes about having naked mole babies!
Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 12:49 AM (cQmXn)
Aww, my kid buzzed my grandbaby's head, I freaked, but she said it would grow in thicker?
My granddaughter now looks like a marine with a buzz cut, tee hee.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:55 AM (EPbpF)

549 It's quite rare that a truly retarded person comments here. You're something of a pioneer. I hope you take pride in that.
Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:51 AM (IoNBC)


ahh, that is cute,

you going to save the USA with windmills and solar energy?

are ya?

Drill baby, Drill !


Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 12:55 AM (2CiZb)

550 Chemjeff, I think you paid too much attention in chemistry, and not enough in biology.

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 12:56 AM (cQmXn)

551 545 And kneepads! Oh! Oh! Ooooh!

Posted by: Fembot Fluke's little red hotbutton at September 17, 2012 12:56 AM (ptlfZ)

552 550
Chemjeff, I think you paid too much attention in chemistry, and not enough in biology.


heh no they are both girl fish, so unless I have two lezzie fishes I don't think that's it

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:57 AM (d/5qf)

553 Tan lines? Yes, please. Damnitall, fucktheworld, Cougar is passed out and that means no fun time for DC. *angry face*



DC I've got some tan-lines I could show off. But you'd only appreciate it if you like the combination of knee-socks and ankle socks and a farmer's tan...on a guy. So no, I will NOT be posting pics.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 12:58 AM (/izg2)

554 "buy a beer for chemjeff..."
I'm way ahead of ya on that thought.

Posted by: teej at September 17, 2012 12:59 AM (k/Mc/)

555 My granddaughter now looks like a marine with a buzz cut, tee hee.
Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:55 AM (EPbpF)

Ha! That sounds super cute. Make sure you take pictures. Duh! Isn't it awesome that everyone has a high quality (compared to back when) camera with them at all times, now!

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:00 AM (cQmXn)

556 Oh yeah...and the double watchband tan lines on each wrist that look like Wonder Woman's bracelets. FML.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:00 AM (/izg2)

557 Kate Middleton?



http://tinyurl.com/8sshaph



My only question is what took so long to slap a ring on that finger bro?

Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 01:00 AM (/YJYi)

558 I don't think they were talking about green energy, and you might want to start thinking about calling it a night, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:53 AM (As94z)


but I just got here

It looked like green energy, what did I miss in the first 500 posts?

Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 01:01 AM (2CiZb)

559 teej thanx, I'll buy a round or two as well

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:02 AM (d/5qf)

560 So what? If we can meet our energy needs, which is a
foregone conclusion given the rapidly-changing nature of our energy
technology, who gives a shit what China or India pays?




Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 12:45 AM (IoNBC)


Each flatscreen TV sold in a Walmart is a very complex signal about the real world. It used to be said that a sale was Materials + Labor + Overhead + Profit, but that was a tad simplistic. There is a level of technology, or "know-how" in each component. There is an element of stewardship, as well -- you can just keep hiring more people when they fall into the chipper-shredder, or you can have safety classes; you can dump nastiness from your factory into the environment, or you can treat it to a reasonably safe standard. And, for every part of the formula, there is an energy input -- which can be as gross as "is it more efficient to ship the parts halfway around the planet for assembly, or should I build each unit on-site?"



If China -- who steals know-how right-and-left and cares not a whit for dumping toxins onto their own land (not to mention shared resources like air and oceans) can get their energy cheaper as well, then more stuff will be built in China and less will be built here.....no matter how skilled, educated, virtuous, environmentally-aware, or unionized the workforce is here.



We should be working night-and-day, 24/7/365, to protect our know-how, make our stewardship cost-effective, and cheapen our energy whether at home or abroad, in order to shift the global flow of resources to our benefit, or we'll be a bunch of retail clerks selling boxes of imported goods to each other.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:02 AM (kaalw)

561
I stopped by looking for an island of sanity in an ocean of madness, and all I got is a bunch of drunks spouting crazy stuff about nuking people and stealing their oil. With one or two exceptions, the only reasonable discussion is about Kate Middleton's boobs (which I doubt are even all that great, to be honest).

I appreciate the link to Mr Steyn's excellent work, and I think I'll try back some other time...

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 01:03 AM (As94z)

562 >It looked like green energy, what did I miss in the first 500 posts?



Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 01:01 AM (2CiZb)


not a whole lot

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 01:03 AM (8sCoq)

563 553 DC I've got some tan-lines I could show off. But you'd only appreciate it if you like the combination of knee-socks and ankle socks and a farmer's tan...on a guy. So no, I will NOT be posting pics.
Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 12:58 AM

Shit. This is all one big tease.

Posted by: back door barry soetoro at September 17, 2012 01:03 AM (yBF/9)

564
We found a little stray kitteh once when I was a kid and we were allowed to keep it because one of thosesmarter-than-you guys that everyone knows told us it was a male and thatconvinced my parents to let us. We named himPete. Then Pete had kittens.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:03 AM (6zmHV)

565 It's pretty obvious, Jake in Idaho, that exploiting North American oil reserves was what was meant not using unicorn-fart windmills.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 01:04 AM (vDl/w)

566 Good evening again.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:04 AM (4ixH5)

567 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Aramco"

Exactly! If you're going to lay some sort of claim, it should start with how they screwed over our oil companies. You should be talking about the details of that, not "you didn't build that" socialist propaganda.


The issue had already been covered in my original posts about "forced nationalizations" and the fact that the arabs and persians didn't build diddly-shit, which rick was adding to. And they didn't build anything. The friggin Saudis STILL can't maintain the fields without foreign expertise. The point of stating that is not that that fact entitles us to take them - it doesn't - but to impress what backward dipshits they are.

Not only that, but they don't even really use the oil which is why our security is threatened by their lack of need of the wells for anything other than holding "the oil weapon" over the West (first used in force in 1973 and threatened over the last years). I also addressed this point in my earlier posts by giving the information that they attack the oil in order to harm us and they really don't give a shit about the wells all becoming totally unusable by anyone (which the world cannot afford). This was seen in the Iran-Iraq war as well as in the first gulf war (which included no only trying to destroy the fields in Kuwait but intentionally dumping te times as much oil into the gulf as the Exxon Valdez did by accident, as we all know that Exxon wanted that oil to get to market more than anything). There have been other threats to the wells, from inside the arab/persian world, that people have to take seriously. They are SUICIDE BOMBERS. Attacking oil that the rest of the world needs is just the world's biggest suicide bomb and it's one they have ready access to.

The point at which the arab/persian/muslim world weaponized oil (as they did in 73 and spoke about after 2001) is the point at which those fields became targets for us to seize, as the first lesson of any war is to cut off the supplies and weapons of the enemy. They made the wells into weapons, not us. The wells, thus, must be treated as weapons, in addition to being treated as the source of all supplies and power that make the arab/persian/muslim world any sort of serious threat to civilization, as they clearly have been for a very long time.

You could definitely argue that they owe SOMETHING, but I'm seeing that they ever sold all the rights to all their oil to anybody.

I am excited to see the suggestion that we develop our own resources, and tell those psychos to go f-themselves. Their oil fields are at maturity - we should be seeing them wane in importance over the next few decades.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:49 AM (As94z)


They stole the fields. They used them as weapons and the fields are the key to their threats. They need to lose them. Let them complain to the Universal Government. If they had behaved like half-civilized people, even, this wouldn't be an issue. But the arabs have taken the wrong side in just about every war and then they love to complain that they can't lose anything. They violated contracts and stole assets and then think that they have some sort of legal leg to stand on. LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 01:04 AM (X3lox)

568 And I am truly looking forward to finally meeting a fellow moron cj. I expect it to be like old home week.
Also all the kc area morons if we can ever get that together.

Posted by: teej at September 17, 2012 01:04 AM (z+Xap)

569 535
I'm not sure if my two new fish don't actually like each other or if
they have this weird D/S thing going on. They keep chasing each other
around and poking each other.


Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:50 AM (d/5qf)


If they're both males (and with guppies, it's easy to tell), it's both.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:04 AM (kaalw)

570 Sorry you weren't able to optimize this thread, Optimizer!

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:05 AM (cQmXn)

571 Look, the guy's trying to get re-elected. This is all that matters to Obama - all this icky Libya/muslim/whatzit stuff is very distracting to our President during this difficult time
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 12:20 AM (8sCoq)

Very true. And his lack of understanding of how diplomacy works means he doesn't realize he should be re-acting as though someone had taken a shot at *him* personally. He'd be plenty angry if he understood what it meant, but as it is he simply stays focused on his original plans. The irony is that re-acting would have quite possibly improved his chances of re-election, but this cold going-about-of-business is very unattractive (and attractive is pretty much all he has to go on right now).

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 17, 2012 01:05 AM (chdbY)

572 Ha! That sounds super cute. Make sure you take pictures. Duh! Isn't it awesome that everyone has a high quality (compared to back when) camera with them at all times, now!
Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:00 AM (cQmXn)
Honestly, this baby is the most photographed baby in history, kid has a fancy phone. Hubby and I are stone age, we took film in to our store, four rolls to be processed forty dollars. I about shit a brick.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:05 AM (EPbpF)

573
Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 01:03 AM (As94z)

Yeah no kidding, if Republicans actually did follow through on punitive military action on Benghazi beyond symbolic Reagan-style air strikes then it would mean FDR-era supermajorities for the left for a decade or more. 2nd amendment? Gone. Single-payer? Arrived! The cost/benefit ratio is just not there.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:06 AM (d/5qf)

574 Sanity? Sanity? You can't handle the sanity!

Posted by: Col. Barky at September 17, 2012 01:06 AM (ptlfZ)

575 Hi Theresa! How bout them Seahawks?

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:07 AM (cQmXn)

576 Are you guys insane?
Do you have any idea what it would take logisticallyto take and hold the fields? let along.e the security to protect the fuel pipes?
And you forget some of that oil goes to Russia...think they'll just let it slide?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:07 AM (XrMeG)

577
Does Coq A Vin have sour cream?
Sounds like a version of burgundy beef and/or beef stroganoff.
And popcorn cooked on the stove is the only way to go lous a girl!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 01:07 AM (y2Ojs)

578 heh no they are both girl fish, so unless I have two lezzie fishes I don't think that's it


Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:57 AM (d/5qf)


Helpful hint: get a male. Everything will fall right into line.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:08 AM (kaalw)

579 People are angry as hell here, Navy. That's all.

They do have an advantage over Barky though ... they actually want to do something about it.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:08 AM (0aV2C)

580 Yeah! That was a good game, although I was hoping for a different outcome. Rough when your #1 team and #2 team play each other. Good thing it only happens every 5 years or so.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:08 AM (6zmHV)

581 Helpful hint: get a male. Everything will fall right into line.

But then I will have 40,000 fish.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:08 AM (d/5qf)

582 Hi Robert! Don't worry about backing off your your diet/exercise regimen. Your body will tell you when you're overtraining. Good job, and good luck.

Night all. Lights out at Casa de DC

Posted by: DC in Towson at September 17, 2012 01:09 AM (CJwi5)

583 Get fake plants for the guppy fry to hide in. Then get a mated pair of angelfish to eat the guppy fry.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:09 AM (0aV2C)

584 But then I will have 40,000 fish.


Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:08 AM (d/5qf)

Then you'll always know where yur next meal is coming from.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:09 AM (4ixH5)

585 Howdy, DC!

G'night, DC!

And thank you.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:10 AM (4ixH5)

586 Remember to tell your liberal friends to vote on Wednesday, because Tuesday's are racist. Or something.

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 17, 2012 01:10 AM (BVkEs)

587 I picked a bad time to be Riyadh man...fuck. That attack at Camp Bastion, anyone read that book by Dalton Fury? "Black Site". Story includes insurgents dressing like US Army and painting 2 UH60s to look American to hit a US site. WTF...

Posted by: fastfreefall at September 17, 2012 01:10 AM (PBnns)

588 And i hate this phone
Come on Friday!!!
Bring my shiny new iphone5

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:10 AM (XrMeG)

589 Oh, I'm sorry, Theresa! I just assumed! Are you from TX?

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:11 AM (cQmXn)

590 Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 12:55 AM (2CiZb)

As I said before, you're a retard.

Retardation is not to be laughed at.

I'm not laughing.

But you are a retard.

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 01:12 AM (IoNBC)

591 Okay. This link combines boobies and kicking ass.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 01:12 AM (vDl/w)

592 It's pretty obvious, Jake in Idaho, that exploiting North American oil reserves was what was meant not using unicorn-fart windmills.
Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 01:04 AM (vDl/w)


dang! good catch! I didn't s'pect a pissing match on the first post

dibs on Red Forman as a sock
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

Now idea on th back story, I read the last 3 posts.


But mother fucking but!

if we drilled the shit outa North and South AMerica

1. alot of Americans would be working

2. the price of energy would fall making the overalleconomy work better. The entire western lifestyle is based on chaep energy

3. cheap oil would cause the Wahabiis in Saudi and all the other fucko's to get less cash flow per month.


Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (2CiZb)

593 heh no they are both girl fish, so unless I have two lezzie fishes I don't think that's it




Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 12:57 AM (d/5qf)


Helpful hint: get a male. Everything will fall right into line.





And a webcam. Supplement your income with Fishporn.com vids. Promote it to the japanese market, they're crazy about anything regarding fish and sex. So I've heard lol.....

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (/izg2)

594 577

Does Coq A Vin have sour cream?
Sounds like a version of burgundy beef and/or beef stroganoff.
And popcorn cooked on the stove is the only way to go lous a girl!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 01:07 AM (y2Ojs)


With the sour cream, I'm thinking stroganoff.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (kaalw)

595 And popcorn cooked on the stove is the only way to go lous a girl!
Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 01:07 AM (y2Ojs)
Happy Birthday! Heres to sister concrete girl whos with us tonite!! So drink mfr, drink mfr, drink mfr,drink mfr,Herse to sister concrete, whos with us tonite!

Meant with Love and well wishes for the next year!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (EPbpF)

596 Posted by: Optimizer at September 17, 2012 12:42 AM (As94z)

I might be able to buy that argument. If that's the case though, that film maker's a dead man. Nothing else will satisfy sharia and if O will do *anything* not to have to be bothered to go to war, then he'll hand the guy over in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (chdbY)

597 579. This is true but reality has to arrive sooner or later
And reality isn't like cod/mw

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (XrMeG)

598 oh man, Jenna Jameson can kick my ass any day she wants

just as long as she does it nekkid

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (d/5qf)

599 Helpful hint: get a male. Everything will fall right into line.
This is what I have been trying to impart to the feminazis.

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:14 AM (cQmXn)

600
Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (/izg2)


oh lord. you do not want to know where fishporn.com redirects to

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:14 AM (d/5qf)

601 I don't think anyone here is a gaming ninja wannabe ... they just want to see someone in DC actually do their fucking job, instead of trying to appease pukes who are attacking us.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:15 AM (0aV2C)

602 ewwwww

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2012 01:15 AM (8sCoq)

603 actually I have been thinking about setting up a webcam for the fish tank

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:15 AM (d/5qf)

604 I know that I am whistling in the wind.

I encourage folks to read up on wiki about, "Carthago Delenda Est"

Cato the Elder protested for 20 years, until the Carthaginians were raping the italian countryside with elephants-- ELEPHANTS-- before the Senate and the People of the City of Rome realized that he was correct.

It ended with Carthage being razed, and the ground salted. And nearly every person in the West can still relate the story of Carthage.

The lesson was learned.
Posted by: Hopeless at September 17, 2012 12:44 AM (xutGe)

Dude.

All of Hannibal's elephants save one died crossing the Alps.

Cato the Elder did his "delenda est" stuff long after the Punic Wars - he was trying to get a single city with no army wiped out because they paid the war debt for the Invasion of Italy too fast.

Eventually the Senate got tired enough of his whining to destroy the city, virtually all of whose inhabitants died in the process.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 17, 2012 01:15 AM (rzSn3)

605 Okay, so now I'm looking up burgundy beef and strokin' off sauce too. Got it.

Posted by: teej at September 17, 2012 01:16 AM (pUAXu)

606
Oh no, Kalneva, I'm actually not bothered at all and love it when the SeaHawks win! They're going to be good this year, I think, but like a long-timeSeaHawks fan, I say that with my fingers crossed.

Never been to Texas, but I've been a Cowboys fan ever since I was a kid watching football with my dad. He was a Packers fan, and I fell in with the Cowboys during one of those great Packers/Cowboys games. 'Bout broke my daddy's heart, I did!

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:16 AM (6zmHV)

607 581
Helpful hint: get a male. Everything will fall right into line.

But then I will have 40,000 fish.


Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:08 AM (d/5qf)


Helpful hint: get another tank with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_cichlid

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:16 AM (kaalw)

608 592. All that's true but....
Who has by far the most oil and is starting to set up to drill, refine, and ship it?
Russia

In about 7 to 10 years the m/e oil will be moot point

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:16 AM (SeqiN)

609 Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 01:12 AM (IoNBC)


Dude,

Obamma just called and he wants his thin skin back.




Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 01:16 AM (2CiZb)

610 Redforman:

You are preaching to the converted here. Except for a few lib'tard trolls that wander in, everyone here would cheerfully drill everything and set up nuke plants to get out from under the house of Saud.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:17 AM (0aV2C)

611
Yes Yes mfr *clink*
...And many thanks!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 01:17 AM (y2Ojs)

612 599 Helpful hint: get a male. Everything will fall right into line. This is what I have been trying to impart to the feminazis.
Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:14 AM (cQmXn)
I love my male, why yes i do. He is funny, cute, good provider, and the best friend I have ever had!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:17 AM (EPbpF)

613 Is it Concrete Girl's birfday?

Happy birfday, Concrete Girl!

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:17 AM (4ixH5)

614 Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 01:12 AM (IoNBC)

That made me laugh! Perfect.

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:18 AM (cQmXn)

615 Bald as hell, but cute. Love her! Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 12:37 AM (EPbpF)
My parents say my sister was entirely bald her first year. Now she has incredibly thick hair, whereas I started out with thick hair and now it is very fine so looks thinner than it is.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R & R at September 17, 2012 01:18 AM (chdbY)

616 Homework was a bitch this weekend, so pretty much like sex - in and out.



Thanks folks, I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. She splits it with me, ya know.

And, since this is the ONT and nothing is OT, here is a link to an interesting little tale of fraud for you to waste some time with this morning...

http://scoamf.us/z7

Posted by: Boomer Redneque is pretty much disgusted beyond words at September 17, 2012 01:18 AM (eQnzo)

617 1. Destroy Iran.

2. Imagine what the world would look like after Iran is destroyed.

3. Any questions?

Posted by: Scobface at September 17, 2012 01:18 AM (IoNBC)

618 Does Coq A Vin have sour cream?
Sounds like a version of burgundy beef and/or beef stroganoff.




Yes it does. I think. If not, it should. And it is related to beef bourgignoun and probably stroganoff too. This is not only a smart mil-blog but a smart recipe-blog too! I'll drink to that!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:19 AM (/izg2)

619 604. May i add?
Most of the residents were sold into slavery and they didn't salt the earth
That was taken from judges in the bible

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:19 AM (SeqiN)

620 Happy birthday, Concrete Girl! Verrrry caaaaarefully clinkingmy beer to my computer screen. Cheers!

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:20 AM (6zmHV)

621 Scobface,


truce,
don't call me retarded, I'll cease and desist

Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 01:20 AM (2CiZb)

622 Enby out. Keep the lights on!

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 01:20 AM (ptlfZ)

623 617. Sure
How would we destroy a country that large?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:21 AM (SeqiN)

624 Jefe, ya know what you need in your fishtank?

An octopus.

There's a conversation starter if there ever was one.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:21 AM (4ixH5)

625 Navycopjoe:

http://tinyurl.com/8ecs9yt

The US has the second highest amount of Thorium reserves in the world, right behind India.

Add gas field fracking, N and S Dakota oilshale cracking, and forcing the retrads to allow drilling off our coasts and in the Gulf of Mexico ( the hinese shouyld not be there, despite Cuba's claims ), and we will have more than enough.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:22 AM (0aV2C)

626 Location matters. Take the DC sniper. My wife's fam was up there right where it was going on. People were living in total fear. How would that scenario have played out in, say, Texas? Fear? Sure. But I'm guessing you would've had a lot of armed people keeping a serious lookout for him.
Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 17, 2012 12:31 AM (GEICT)

Texas? Wouldn't have made a difference in that scenario. When it was going on I filled my tank many times under the huge tents they put up. Armed citizens in VA or Unarmed in MD there was no difference. It came down to the individual how much those two fucks impacted your life. I think i have a better chance at winning Powerball while being struck by lightning than being shot randomly.

Also during that fun time i had the fun time of being stopped and handcuffed while my workvan was being searched because Chief Moose KNEW it was a whitey doing the shooting.

Posted by: RWC at September 17, 2012 01:22 AM (0VipX)

627 The thing that steams me most about the trillion dollar fucking stimulus was how poorly it even tried to manage "rate of return".

A trillion dollars of nuclear farking power plants would (a) have eliminated the yapping about global warming for a generation while we get decent farking data, (b) would still be farking useful regardless, and (c) would actually provide a stimulative effect as the money would be spent locally.

I'd -still- be irritated at the spending. But at least it wouldn't be farking moronic spending. "Hey, let's pay the printers to print more money and then pay people to set it on fire!" - Hell of a stimulus.

Posted by: Al at September 17, 2012 01:22 AM (MzQOZ)

628 "Hey, baby, want to see my tentacled beast?"

Or, if that seems too over the top, you can ask it a little differently.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:22 AM (4ixH5)

629 oh lord. you do not want to know where fishporn.com redirects to



Oops. My bad. Just made it up, but am I about to be banned?



And shame on you for looking it up!!! ;p

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:23 AM (/izg2)

630
Helpful hint: get another tank with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_cichlid


Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:16 AM (kaalw)

That is a good idea but ugh I don't know if I can do a second tank right now
I think for this tank I am just going to add some pretty non-carnivorous tropical freshwater fish

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:23 AM (d/5qf)

631 Men are great! Fuck Gloria Steinem, et.al.! (Well, they're not that fuckable, but you get my meaning.)

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:23 AM (cQmXn)

632 "How would we destroy a country that large?"

I don't know, Navy, but some days I'd like to give it a try. Hopefully we can find a less extreme means to discipline these retards.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:24 AM (0aV2C)

633
Corny but true...
I for one, am looking forward to the Thanksgiving Day Recipe exchange.
I still have it saved from last year.
Thanks all!
From your B'Day (concrete) Girl.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 17, 2012 01:24 AM (y2Ojs)

634 22
Posted by: Nighthawk at September 16, 2012 09:42 PM (KZFV9)


****************

Prayers sent

Posted by: Boomer Redneque is pretty much disgusted beyond words at September 17, 2012 01:24 AM (eQnzo)

635 http://tinyurl.com/2vowc94

Doesn't that face just scream "can I haz cheezburger?"

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:24 AM (4ixH5)

636 Lou, thought about you.The store where I get my cigs and beer has had a special where you can get 6 movie-sized boxes of candy for $5.00. I am currently enjoying cherry twizzlers with my adult beverage. Malted Milk Balls, Hot Tamales and Black Crows also on hand.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:25 AM (6zmHV)

637 hmm, octopus - that would be cool

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:25 AM (d/5qf)

638 And a webcam. Supplement your income with Fishporn.com vids. Promote it to the japanese market, they're crazy about anything regarding fish and sex. So I've heard lol.....

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (/izg2)


Whatever you do, don't do an image search on that...

*shudder*

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at September 17, 2012 01:25 AM (sZTYJ)

639 "In the end it's behavior that matters."

here, here!

now *there's* an aphorism that many of the commenters at this blog need to take to heart!

Posted by: jimi ray at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (79EF9)

640 I for one, am looking forward to the Thanksgiving Day Recipe exchange.

Actually me too as I am hosting my parents again this year

We decided that we are going to go out for the big Thxgiving day feast but I still am going to prepare a few dinners here at home

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (d/5qf)

641 My parents say my sister was entirely bald her first year. Now she has incredibly thick hair, whereas I started out with thick hair and now it is very fine so looks thinner than it is.
Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada hobbbit who wants some R R at September 17, 2012 01:18 AM (chdbY)

Ditto, I was so frickin cute as a baby, ugly teenager, super skinny, aka no boobs when it mattered. beautiful twenty something, vain and did not care,awesome at thirty, but familymy went to hell, fat forty? Why does God mess with me, tee hee.
OMG, sorry, just put my diary on AOS!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (EPbpF)

642 A plea to the more knowledgeable Morons, I was diagnosed with a glandular infection last Tuesday and was prescribed Amoxil and Prednisone. My throat was swelling and it was becoming hard to breathe.

Everything felt like it was slowly getting better until this morning when all hell broke loose. It's as if the infection is spreading through my sinuses, left ear, back of my throat.

I'd run the left side of my head through a bandsaw, it hurts so fucking bad. I'm going to the doctor for a third time tomorrow. What the fuck is going on?

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (nKarc)

643 The problem with Octopodes, chemjeff, is that they won't stay in the tank.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (0aV2C)

644
Phase 1: Carpet bombing
Phase 2: Lord Humungous
Phase 3: Profit!

Posted by: Furious Meatball at September 17, 2012 01:27 AM (mxnUd)

645 And I'm used to getting it in the end.

Posted by: rimi jay at September 17, 2012 01:27 AM (vDl/w)

646 cherry twizzlers...Malted Milk Balls, Hot Tamales and Black Crows also on hand.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:25 AM (6zmHV)

Mmmmmmm.....

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:27 AM (4ixH5)

647 hmm but octopi don't live in freshwater, only salt water, and I have a freshwater aquarium. oh well.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (d/5qf)

648 It probably has spread, Erik.

Antibiotic resistant. Good luck.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (0aV2C)

649 623. I agree we have more than enough a.d sooner than later we'll be some drilling fools
632. The only way realistically is with nukes
Then the question is where will the fallout go nd there is iran's treaty with Russia...yep....the guys with passed off putin

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (OApiq)

650 Good night all. Must resume the job search tomorrow.
Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (k/Mc/)

651 OMG, sorry, just put my diary on AOS!

join the crowd

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (d/5qf)

652 hmm, octopus - that would be cool

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:25 AM (d/5qf)


Japan and tentacle pr0n goes way back...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_of_the_fisherman's_wife

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at September 17, 2012 01:29 AM (sZTYJ)

653 Good night teej, best of luck on job search
Maybe you can find something in St. Joseph area? just a thought

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:29 AM (d/5qf)

654 Cj
To thin the fish population just get a cat and don't put a lid on the tank

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:30 AM (OApiq)

655 The proper plural is either Octopuses in English or Octopodes if you insist on the original greek.

"Octopi" was the result of some Victorian era literary fools who wanted to revive Latin plurals, and then fucked up by applying it to a greek root word like Octopus.

Octopi is listen in the dictionary because it is popular, not because it is correct.

( sorry for the rant ... )

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:31 AM (0aV2C)

656 Theresa, where is this magical place? Me loves some Hot Tamales. And what are the cigarette prices like? Not that I give a rip. I smoke about a pack a month. I think my budget can handle a $2 price differential. And I have eaten about 30 (well, maybe more) Hot Tamales in the last 20 years. Isn't it crazy that we factor these things in? *maybe I'm alone!*

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:31 AM (cQmXn)

657
Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (nKarc)

Howdy, Mr. Dubya, it's been some time. I remember some months back you mentioning have problems with a racing heart. Was that ever resolved?

Maybe it's a reaction from the combination of medicines? Maybe you're allergic to one?
Take care of yourself, man.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:31 AM (4ixH5)

658 listed ... sorry.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (0aV2C)

659 Okay, sorry, Octopodes it is (they are)

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (d/5qf)

660 And a webcam. Supplement your income with
Fishporn.com vids. Promote it to the japanese market, they're crazy
about anything regarding fish and sex. So I've heard lol.....


Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:13 AM (/izg2)


True story -- I belong to a fish club....where a bunch of fish geeks get together once a month to trade, drink beer, swap lies, drink beer, have dinner, drink beer, etc. So, one year, we're in a pizza parlor discussing this incredibly rare and peculiar fish [ http://tinyurl.com/8dkg7en ] -- lives deeper than SCUBA in one lake in Africa -- and that someone had managed to get it to breed in tanks, so it might become commercially available instead of a $300/fish curiosity......and a guest speaker comes in with video.

It shows how you have to have a steep-sided rock above sand where the male will establish a breeding site, and suchlike -- something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8_PPAYPnwg , although that's not the exact video. And everyone is watching with rapt attention because knowing the details could make a rare, beautiful, and habitat-threatened fish become more common in aquaria....and one of the pizza guys comes in to deliver order #276.

So this pizza guy walks into a room with a bunch of folks intently watching fish porn in the dark.....he did look a bit nonplussed.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (kaalw)

661 Cj
To thin the fish population just get a cat and don't put a lid on the tank
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:30 AM (OApiq)

You don't even need a cat, just no lid. When we had fish, there were quite a few 'leapers' that failed to evolve lungs in time.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (rzSn3)

662 Yeah ErikW how is everything going

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (d/5qf)

663 hmm but octopi don't live in freshwater, only salt water, and I have a freshwater aquarium. oh well.


Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (d/5qf)

Just dump out the old water?
Add salt?

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (4ixH5)

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:32 AM (4ixH5)

665 Nearer my Beast to thee.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:33 AM (4ixH5)

666 ACK!

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:33 AM (4ixH5)

667 *Whew*

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:33 AM (4ixH5)

668 Roberto got the 'Bill the Cat' magic number

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:33 AM (d/5qf)

669 "Kris" @386 Ambassadors serve at the pleasure of the President ... they represent him in absentia. A President can appoint or fire any one to the post as he pleases and for whatever reason he pleases.

Mebbe I didn't make myself real clear, there, ol buddy.
What I'm saying is that the "candidate" played the gay card to get the job.
And if he hadn't gotten his posting, would have played it...ooh...harder.
And I'm strongly insinuating that he was doing things in Libya that one cannot do here, and really oughtn't to have done in Libya.

At the pleasure, as it were, of the President, and representin.
I believe the Administration mistook this for a ceremonial post.

And now the hopeless want to nuke Benghazi for gay-bashing.
Because that's how it will play on the networks, even al-Jezeera, once it's been run thought the filter.
Matthew Shepard and DADT are running our foreign policy.

Posted by: comatus at September 17, 2012 01:34 AM (qaVK+)

670 Good night, Teej.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:34 AM (4ixH5)

671 "Octopi" was the result of some Victorian era literary fools who wanted
to revive Latin plurals, and then fucked up by applying it to a greek
root word like Octopus.




The correct term, I believe, is Octopussy.

Posted by: Bond...James Bond at September 17, 2012 01:34 AM (/izg2)

672 651 OMG, sorry, just put my diary on AOS!join the crowd
Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:28 AM (d/5qf)
Yep. Wisdom is kinda cool!!
Just gotta say, if I had my late twenty looks with my forty something wisdom, I could be a badass.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:35 AM (EPbpF)

673
Kalneva, it's the Walgreen's here in Richland on G-Wash way. I get 2 packs of Pall Mall regular 100s, and it costs exactly $13.01, although I believe the price is supposed to go up soon.

I have always loved hot tamales candy. I'm gonna pull out a filling some day eating them, though. Same with black crows, which I am surprised are still called by that name.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:35 AM (6zmHV)

674 #655 Shit like this explains why you're talking to a magic box, instead of banging hot chicks. Me? I collect teapots, and massage my momma's feet Tuesday nights.

Posted by: Norman Bates at September 17, 2012 01:36 AM (mxnUd)

675 Damn! Missed the number. Doesn't matter though, since Rum isn't around to steal my soul. G'night y'all!

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:36 AM (/izg2)

676 Just gotta say, if I had my late twenty looks with my forty something wisdom, I could be a badass.

no kidding. as a famous guy once said, youth is wasted on the young.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:36 AM (d/5qf)

677 Good night, Ref.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:36 AM (4ixH5)

678 Comatus: That may very well be the case. And I can imagine Obama being afraid of being accuse of being anti-gay, even if the "victim" can't actually sue him.

Often, dangerous consulate jobs get dumped off on career state department diplomats, because political appointees do not want to go anywhere near them.

For some damned reason, this political appointee volunteered for this hardship post. Cost him his life.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:36 AM (0aV2C)

679 attention morons in Indiana and Kentucky, absentee voting starts today

vote early and often

Posted by: Jose at September 17, 2012 01:37 AM (srIqv)

680 628
"Hey, baby, want to see my tentacled beast?"

Or, if that seems too over the top, you can ask it a little differently.


Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:22 AM (4ixH5)


I've GOT to try that.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:37 AM (kaalw)

681 I cannot argue with that, James.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:37 AM (0aV2C)

682 Octopussy.


Posted by: Bond...James Bond at September 17, 2012 01:34 AM (/izg2)

No, no, that's what you call conjoined kittehs with eight legs.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:37 AM (4ixH5)

683 Do you have any idea what it would take logisticallyto take and hold the fields?

Much less than it costs to fight an endless War on Terror. Much less than it costs to have the Oil Weapon always in the background. And, as I said, weapons are fair game in battle. More than fair game, they are what much of the action revolves around. It would cost much less than it costs to have OPEC collude on prices. Much less than pretty much very cost we've shouldered for a very long time. And it would be paid for by the fields, themselves.

Cost is not an issue in this.

let along.e the security to protect the fuel pipes?

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:07 AM (XrMeG)


They need security, now. Who secures the gulf? Can we afford to have arab countries blowing the fields up, now, if they decide that's the best way to attack the West? Just because we don't the proper security on the fields at this point doesn't mean that it needn't be there. What's happening with the gas lines into Israel from Sinai? Well, extrapolate that scenario out in a few years and then see what will be necessary.

Of course, we won't do it, but not because of any costs. We won't do it because we're stupid (even without the enemy occupooping the White House who is only looking to harm America every way he can, anyway).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 01:38 AM (X3lox)

684 Same with black crows, which I am surprised are still called by that name.
Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:35 AM (6zmHV)
Racist, how in all the hell that is holy do you dare call a piece of candy a black crow

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:38 AM (EPbpF)

685 673 black crows

RACIST!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:38 AM (XrMeG)

686 632
"How would we destroy a country that large?"

I don't know, Navy,
but some days I'd like to give it a try. Hopefully we can find a less
extreme means to discipline these retards.


Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:24 AM (0aV2C)


That's not too tough, actually -- they have one refinery....bomb it. Then bomb ports and pipelines until everything grinds to a halt.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:39 AM (kaalw)

687 Are Black Crows licorice?

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 01:39 AM (vDl/w)

688 Yes. Very tasty licorice gumdrops.

Posted by: Kristophr at September 17, 2012 01:40 AM (0aV2C)

689 Hey Robert and chemjeff.

The heart issue was me needing better BP meds and all is good now, thanks for asking.

This fucking infection makes me want to beat my head against a brick wall. I've been off work for five days now and my boss probably hates me right now.

I'm chugging beer right now just to kill the pain and maybe get some sleep! This fucking sucks.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:40 AM (nKarc)

690 Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:26 AM (nKarc)

Yeah, what indeed? Speaking from a point of view the same as yours (sorta) a month ago, just keep going to the doctor. And I was underprescribed, which may be your case, also. I think Dr.s are tryingnot to prescribe too many antibiotics, because they are over-prescribed. But there's a huge difference between an imaginary flu that's really just a cold, and a staph or MRSA infection. You let that cold go for a while, it cures itself. Let that MRSA go... different outcome. I only got better after I went to the ER where they prescribed a way huger amount of antibiotics.

Credits to all the people on this thread who said almost the exact same thing to me5 weeks ago.

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:40 AM (cQmXn)

691 683. Cost is not an issue?

To quote Teh SARAH!!!!
'WE'RE BROKE!!!!'

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:41 AM (XrMeG)

692 Just gotta say, if I had my late twenty looks with my forty something wisdom, I could be a badass.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:35 AM (EPbpF)



I'm just a Moron, but I'm pretty sure that you ARE a badass. Just lookin' for pics to prove my theory.......

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:41 AM (/izg2)

693
Andycanuck, yes. And they really stick to the teeth!

Posted by: Theresa the Teabagger Racist is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:41 AM (6zmHV)

694 Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:40 AM (cQmXn)

Captain Tripps, that is all

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 01:43 AM (EPbpF)

695 Sorry for your ills, ErikW. I hope you can get a proper treatment sorted out soon.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 01:43 AM (vDl/w)

696 Syria, where Sunni's and Shia's come to do battle with each other and there is almost no oil there.


as Ace pitched a few months ago, let this baby go on and on.

Iran will get bogged down, Saudi will get bogged down.

Jihadiis from all over will come to fight

cut off funds to Egypt and let them starve for a while

lots of possibilities for the bold

Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 01:43 AM (2CiZb)

697 To thin the fish population just get a cat and don't put a lid on the tank

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:30 AM (OApiq)



You don't even need a cat, just no lid. When we had fish, there were quite a few 'leapers' that failed to evolve lungs in time.


True, unless it's a koi. We have a ten-inch koi that started out about the size of my pinky finger and refuses to die like all his tankmates obligingly did four years ago. My son forgot to put the lid back on the tub one day - yes, koi lives in a huge, clear plastic $10 Rubbermaid storage container, with pumps and gravel and plants and all the fixin's - and he flipped himself out. Have no idea how long he was on the carpet, but he was pretty dry to the touch when we found him. Threw him back in and he was fine. These bastards live forever, so I'm told. Cher, cockroaches, and koi.

Posted by: Gem at September 17, 2012 01:43 AM (zw+pb)

698 ErikW...hope you get better soon! If you're looking for advice from the Horde, I'd recommend asking Gushka and/or Merovign. They have some really good health knowledge and connections.

And I'm out for reals now. Work comes awfully early for me tomorrow afternoon lol.

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 01:44 AM (/izg2)

699 686. Then they launch against Saudi and Kuwait and oil skyrockets maybe sink a tanker or two in the mouth of the gulf
Food and goods triple due to delivery costs

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:44 AM (iBaHp)

700 forgot that Black Sunday comes out this week on blu-ray

Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 01:45 AM (tw6Ar)

701 Jujubes, no matter the flavour, do that to my teeth too, Theresa. Not that it stops me from eating them.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 17, 2012 01:46 AM (vDl/w)

702 This fucking sucks.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:40 AM (nKarc)

Well if you can't sleep we can always entertain you with bawdy jokes and links to bikini babes until the morning.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:46 AM (4ixH5)

703 683
Do you have any idea what it would take logisticallyto take and hold the fields?



Eh, farm it out to the Israelis.....or Mexicans tired of drug cartels.....or Asians getting squeezed by the downturn in the global economy caused by -- wait for it! -- overly high energy prices.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:46 AM (kaalw)

704 698. And abe vigota

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:46 AM (iBaHp)

705 And I'm out for reals, too. Night everyone,don't ever stopbeing adorable, the whole lot of you!

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:46 AM (6zmHV)

706 I'll go to that Walgreen's, next time,Theresa. If a see a sexy chick buying Pall Malls, I'll say hello!

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 01:47 AM (cQmXn)

707 Cher, cockroaches, and koi.


Posted by: Gem at September 17, 2012 01:43 AM (zw+pb)

If I had been eating anything I'd have choked to death for certain.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:47 AM (4ixH5)

708 Thanks andycanuck.

I don't like to be the guy who bitches but dear god.

I'll be fine.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:48 AM (nKarc)

709 Good night, Theresa!

Leave the Twizzlers.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 01:48 AM (4ixH5)

710 I get 2 packs of Pall Mall regular 100s, and it costs exactly $13.01, although I believe the price is supposed to go up soon.

Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:35 AM (6zmHV)


You should start doing MYO cigarettes. $1.20/pack. $2/pack for the hoity-toity designer tobacco. Very good tasting cigarettes. I have several tobaccos that I really like. I used to be a very heavy smoker and went through Camels, Marlboros (all sorts), Merit Ultra Lights (when I was trying to cut down a bit) and had been smoking Pall Malls since 2007, when the taxes started getting really out of control. Switched to MYO in 2010. My MYO cigarettes are better than all of them in my book. I buy at "rollyourown dot com". Check it out. All legal, but it won't last much longer, I don't think.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 01:49 AM (X3lox)

711 Thanks NC, I'll remember that.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 01:49 AM (nKarc)

712 oh yeah, ncj, da bears

Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 01:49 AM (tw6Ar)

713 ErikW, if you're gonna bitch, this is the place to do it at

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:50 AM (d/5qf)

714 So I've got a dentist appointment at 10 in the morning, should have been in bed awhile ago but I wanted to leave you morons with this.



http://tinyurl.com/9kdv5nw




I dare any of you to watch that video and think of the thousands and men and women who have died in the past decade with a dry eye. The top rated comment on that video is:


"Reagan. What a man, and what a president."




He may not have been perfect but he's a damn sight better than anything we have now. I wish I could have been around when he was the man.

Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 01:53 AM (/YJYi)

715 699
686. Then they launch against Saudi and Kuwait and oil skyrockets maybe sink a tanker or two in the mouth of the gulf

Food and goods triple due to delivery costs

Posted by: navycopjoe at September 17, 2012 01:44 AM (iBaHp)


Launch what? And how did it get to the launchpad? Don't bother to hit their artillery or tanks, just hit fuel and refineries. Hit jet fuel depots, and it doesn't matter how many planes they have.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 01:53 AM (kaalw)

716 Posted by: Adam at September 17, 2012 01:53 AM (/YJYi)

I miss Reagan more and more every day

God help our Republic, it sure could use a bit of help right about now

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 01:59 AM (d/5qf)

717 Ha, yeah I should know better, chemjeff.

I'm literally sucking down beer as fast as I can to kill this.

My doctor is pretty cool, I hope he doesn't mind me stumbling through his door and hitting on his smokin' receptionist before I pass out in the exam room.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 02:00 AM (nKarc)

718 My doctor is pretty cool, I hope he doesn't mind me
stumbling through his door and hitting on his smokin' receptionist
before I pass out in the exam room.

Posted by: ErikW on the damned phone at September 17, 2012 02:00 AM (nKarc)

well, if you can get beyond the whole "giving nitrous to a drunk guy" issue, then yeah you're golden

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 02:02 AM (d/5qf)

719 710 Enby back.
TPOP, their demise is already a done deal. Loose tobacco wasn't being taxed at the manufactured cig rate, and some senator dropped an amendment to "close the loophole." The guy that invented the rolling machine, the factory that builds them and all its workers, and all the retail tobacco outlets that bought them at about $20K apiece IIRC are all just sol, suckers.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:02 AM (ptlfZ)

720 705 And I'm out for reals, too. Night everyone,don't ever stopbeing adorable, the whole lot of you!
Posted by: Theresa is 4 Romney/Ryan at September 17, 2012 01:46 AM (6zmHV)
Go Cowbouys and Raiders, and yeah, leave the twizzlers!!!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 02:02 AM (EPbpF)

721 If this whole thing melts down the mid east will fare pretty poorly.

they can't even feed themselves currently

once the oil funds dry up from the chaos, there is not enough goat grazing to feed themselves

Posted by: Red Forman at September 17, 2012 02:03 AM (2CiZb)

722 I pledge allegiance, to the flag

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 02:03 AM (cQmXn)

723 Look for Holder to arrest Mitt next, for incitement to Muslim Riotl.

Posted by: Born Free at September 17, 2012 02:04 AM (eTWFH)

724 of the United States of America

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 02:04 AM (d/5qf)

725 Raiders learned a painful lesson today at the hands of the mighty World Champion Miami Dolphins

Posted by: DAve at September 17, 2012 02:05 AM (hXJEu)

726 and to the Republic for which it stands

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:06 AM (ptlfZ)

727 and to the republic, for which it stands.

Posted by: kalneva's not a football widow anymore, but... zzzzz at September 17, 2012 02:06 AM (cQmXn)

728 and to the Republic, for which it stands....

Posted by: NC Ref at September 17, 2012 02:06 AM (/izg2)

729 one nation, under God

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 02:07 AM (cQmXn)

730 725 Raiders learned a painful lesson today at the hands of the mighty World Champion Miami Dolphins
Posted by: DAve at September 17, 2012 02:05 AM (hXJEu)
Tee hee, thanks, I needed a laugh.
Night all ya fkin conservatives, how dare you fight back against the machine!
Seriously, Love Ya, mean it!

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 02:08 AM (EPbpF)

731 Raiders learned a painful lesson today at the hands of the mighty World Champion Miami Dolphins

Posted by: DAve at September 17, 2012 02:05 AM (hXJEu)

eh, Dolphins don't have the personal but they do have good coaches

Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 02:08 AM (tw6Ar)

732 The Pledge of Allegiance is so racist! H8rs gotta H8.....

Posted by: Chris Matthews at September 17, 2012 02:09 AM (/izg2)

733 Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Inother words, the antithesis of the Bamster's creed.

Thanks for taking part. Love long time, as per usual, and keep your powderdry. Nighty-night

Posted by: kalneva at September 17, 2012 02:12 AM (cQmXn)

734 good night Kalvena, thanx for that

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 02:15 AM (d/5qf)

735 TPOP, their demise is already a done deal. Loose tobacco wasn't being taxed at the manufactured cig rate, and some senator dropped an amendment to "close the loophole." The guy that invented the rolling machine, the factory that builds them and all its workers, and all the retail tobacco outlets that bought them at about $20K apiece IIRC are all just sol, suckers.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:02 AM (ptlfZ)


No, they're not done, yet. WHat happened was that shops that make the cigarettes for their customers were shut. It was those cigarette making machines that you're talking about. I still buy bulk tobacco for about $1/oz ... $17/lb, really. I also have some premium tobaccos that go for around $30/lb. Each cigarette takes around 0.8 grams of tobacco. This is not loose cigarette tobacco, which has the $25/lb tax on it, but pipe tobacco or "dual use". The only difference in the tobaccos is the cut, not the tobacco, itself. But they are talking about raising the taxes on those tobaccos (which has not happened yet) since sale of dual use/pipe tobacco has gone from 3 million lbs/year to over 30 million.

Currently I have 3 years worth of tobacco (though I'm a bit short on tubes, at the moment) but I'm going to buy some more ... just in case. You can get 5lb bags of good Kentucky Select Red tobacco for $75.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:17 AM (X3lox)

736 Go Cowbouys and Raiders, and yeah, leave the twizzlers!!!
Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 02:02 AM (EPbpF)
Typing drunk, hey..
Cowboys. you know what I meant.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 02:18 AM (EPbpF)

737 Night guys.

Posted by: lous a girl at September 17, 2012 02:19 AM (EPbpF)

738 Good night, Kalneva.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 02:19 AM (4ixH5)

739 Good night, Lou.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 02:20 AM (4ixH5)

740 can't wait to check this game out later this week
http://tinyurl.com/9tot8u4

Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 02:21 AM (tw6Ar)

741 735 Yeah, "loose tobacco" was loose shit. But whatever, they put the machine roll thing out of business, which means you'll have to roll your own. I do it when I run out this time of night, but it's a pain.

And the loss of 600 jobs and millions in investment is a done deal.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:21 AM (ptlfZ)

742 It's for the churdren, though, so I guess I should be thankful...

that all my kids smoke.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:23 AM (ptlfZ)

743 Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 02:21 AM (tw6Ar)

ugh that gives me motion sickness just watching it

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 02:23 AM (d/5qf)

744
Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 02:23 AM (d/5qf)

better video
http://tinyurl.com/8zy9zye

Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 02:24 AM (tw6Ar)

745 Yeah, "loose tobacco" was loose shit. But whatever, they put the machine roll thing out of business, which means you'll have to roll your own. I do it when I run out this time of night, but it's a pain.

I don't roll. I have an injection machine that fills filtered tubes, just like the commercial ones. No difference really, except that mine taste better.

And the loss of 600 jobs and millions in investment is a done deal.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:21 AM (ptlfZ)


Yeah, they screwed over the shops that were buying the tobacco that I buy and then using the big injection machines to fill the tubes for their customers at the store. Typical government bullshit, of course. Most of the customers probably just bought their own home machines and do it on their own, now. The stores and the factory are SOL, though, as you said.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:25 AM (X3lox)

746 Out for real this time. G'nite all.

Posted by: Enby at September 17, 2012 02:25 AM (ptlfZ)

747 Currently I have 3 years worth of tobacco (though
I'm a bit short on tubes, at the moment) but I'm going to buy some more
... just in case. You can get 5lb bags of good Kentucky Select Red
tobacco for $75.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:17 AM


Its retarded cheap to make your own. I'm shocked more people don't do it. Smokers outlet has tobacco for
$10 per 12oz bag, so that comes out to $40 for 3 lbs, so a tad over $13 a
pound. They got tubes for $2 a box of 200. If it costs $1 per pack by the time you get done thats a lot. People are nuts spending $7-8 a pack

Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 02:30 AM (FMbng)

748 hopefully Hawken will remove the shit taste on my mouth from GW2

Posted by: The Dude at September 17, 2012 02:31 AM (tw6Ar)

749 Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 02:30 AM (FMbng)

Most people just don't know about it, I think. I only found out because a guy at work and I used to take smoke breaks together and he did MYO. But I still bought Pall Malls for 6 months after that. Then he brought me in a few MYO cigarettes (he smoked menthols so he brought me some regular cigarettes he makes for his girlfriend) and I finally smoked them. I was amazed and went to the web site to order a little bit. That was it for me. I never bought another pack of cigarettes at a store again and I've saved thousands already. Besides, it's great never having to run out to the store because I'm out of cigarettes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:35 AM (X3lox)

750 Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 02:30 AM (FMbng)

BTW, thanks for that site. Those prices are much better than my place. DIfferent tobaccos, but I'm going to try some. I learn something new every day.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:38 AM (X3lox)

751 Hey Kids.

Posted by: jc at September 17, 2012 02:39 AM (ufJKx)

752 That was it for me. I never bought another pack
of cigarettes at a store again and I've saved thousands already.
Besides, it's great never having to run out to the store because I'm out
of cigarettes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:35 AM


Thats the best part. Snow, rain, car don't start. whatever, you never need to leave the house for a pack of smokes, you always got a shitload. You're right about people not knowing about it. The crazier part is you tell them until you're blue in the face and they don't get it until they actually see you make one. I had a friend come up from florida, and I told him for 3 years to do this. I explained it to him every possible way. The tubes are done, filters and all, just add tobacco and pull the fucking lever. he still couldn't understand until he saw it, then it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I can zip out a pack faster than it takes me to go to the store.

Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 02:41 AM (FMbng)

753 BTW, thanks for that site. Those prices are much
better than my place. DIfferent tobaccos, but I'm going to try some. I
learn something new every day.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:38 AM


Try the golden harvest. Its pretty damn good.

Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 02:42 AM (FMbng)

754 hi jc
well, time for bed for me
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at September 17, 2012 02:42 AM (d/5qf)

755 Hi / Bye CJ. Sleep well.

Posted by: jc at September 17, 2012 02:43 AM (ufJKx)

756 So what's the price difference between tobacco? Tailors, rollies, pipe? Is it only the tobacco bought "bulk" from certain places taxed at a lower rate?

Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 02:50 AM (yBF/9)

757 Try the golden harvest. Its pretty damn good.

Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 02:42 AM (FMbng)


I've tried it. I'm still working through a pound of it. It has a bit of a different taste for me. I like it, but I usually mix it with 1839 or Farmer's Gold, though every so often I get into a real Golden Harvest mood. That price is really something else. I'm going to buy some of their store brand, too.

The tube prices there are pretty cool. The Vera Cruzes are cheap as shit. They're great tubes, though the long filters make them a bit of a hassle to inject.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:51 AM (X3lox)

758 Good night, Jefe.


Howdy, JC!

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 02:51 AM (4ixH5)

759
Yep,

I'll step in with this.
Did the "instant" blame for the middle east flash mobs from our own Lame Stream Media seem just a tad too...."instant?" Did ya kinda go WTF?? when the Horse Mouth Hillary shot the same wad on the same day?
I for one smell large rat droppings with a cap."D!" I see a play advanced to implant a future play advanced to...ya get the point?

Correct me if I seem "Off point."

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 02:51 AM (2IlPT)

760 So what's the price difference between tobacco? Tailors, rollies, pipe? Is it only the tobacco bought "bulk" from certain places taxed at a lower rate?

Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 02:50 AM (yBF/9)


"Cigarette" tobacco is taxed at something like $25/lb. "Pipe" and "dual use" tobaccos are only taxed at something like $1.50/lb. The only real difference is that pipe tobacco is cut longer than cigarette tobacco, but that makes for a very decent cigarette that holds together well. Same tobaccos for many brands, just different cuts to avoid the tax.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:54 AM (X3lox)

761 "Cigarette" tobacco is taxed at something like $25/lb. "Pipe" and "dual use" tobaccos are only taxed at something like $1.50/lb. The only real difference is that pipe tobacco is cut longer than cigarette tobacco, but that makes for a very decent cigarette that holds together well. Same tobaccos for many brands, just different cuts to avoid the tax.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 02:54 AM

Holy shit.So, there's a huge price difference bewteen tailors/rollies and pipe? That's awesome. Smoke that "dual use". Mind you, I could handle $7-$8 a pack, but, it's all relative, I guess.

Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 03:00 AM (yBF/9)

762 What the...predicted lows at night this week...in the 60s?

Holy crap!

I...I think summer's finally ending.

Posted by: Robert haz a happy at September 17, 2012 03:04 AM (4ixH5)

763
762
Just waiting for my Aug/Sept electric bill. My kids liked it around 76 degrees.

May have to rob a bank or two to pay off that one.

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 03:09 AM (2IlPT)

764 Holy shit.So, there's a huge price difference bewteen tailors/rollies and pipe? That's awesome.

Yeah, kind of amazing. They're eventually going to bring the taxes on the pope tobacco up. It'll still be a deal, though not nearly as good.

Smoke that "dual use". Mind you, I could handle $7-$8 a pack, but, it's all relative, I guess.

Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 03:00 AM (yBF/9)


Prices are already over $12/pack in places, so you can expect others to race to the same level eventually. I'm just offended by the prices and I like the idea of stiffing the government thieves for the revenue that they're going to abuse. To try and rip us off this badly and then turn around and ban us from smoking those overpriced cigarettes everywhere ... it makes my blood boil.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 03:09 AM (X3lox)

765 May have to rob a bank or two to pay off that one.

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 03:09 AM (2IlPT)

I'll get the Dick Nixon Halloween masks.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 03:15 AM (4ixH5)

766 The funny thing is that the Statists want there to be big companies to do things -- so they can beat them down, unionize them, extract big concessions, and regulate the crap out of 'em.....but they talk like they're in favor of "the little guy".



From tobacco [bulk tobacco is cheap, let's tax the crud out of cigarettes, making cigs out of bulk tobacco is no big deal] to beer [bulk barley is cheap, let's tax the crud out of beer, making beer out of barley is no big deal] to autos [engines and wagons are cheap, let's tax and regulate the hell out of cars, making something to tool around the farm is no big deal] to drugs [plants and cultures are cheap, costs billions to get tinctures certified by the FDA, making herbal tea is no big deal].....there seems to be a huge bootstrapping operation to make a big deal out of something so that there can be a big state intervention about the big deal, when technology is making DIY solutions for the deal cheaper every day.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 03:15 AM (kaalw)

767 ""The tube prices there are pretty cool. The Vera Cruzes are cheap as
shit. They're great tubes, though the long filters make them a bit of a
hassle to inject."'


I love those tubes. I don't have any problem injecting them at all. I have a tops topomatic, and it does them no problem.

Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 03:17 AM (FMbng)

768 http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/amazin-blaze-heatin-and-beatin.html

Videos at the link. Woik blocked. Something about welding. Figure someone here might enjoy 'em.

Posted by: Robert at September 17, 2012 03:19 AM (4ixH5)

769
So,

Gas price is about the same as when Carter the rabbit slayer was offending the seal of State. (Corrected for Inflation!)
Nowthe SCFOAMF dances wit da homey's in the same "Dit...Dit...Dit!"

YOU BUILT THAT......"BITCH!!"

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 03:21 AM (2IlPT)

770 It costs my friends a minimum of $200 a month to smoke, in some cases probably $300. Thats a car payment right there. It costs me $30 a month doing it my way. The savings is insane, and the tobacco has no chemicals. The smoke don't even bother people who usually are bothered by it, so its definitely cleaner somehow. It costs me in a year what a lot of people pay in just 1 month. No shit, I bet I saved 6-8K in the last few years alone.


Posted by: Berserker at September 17, 2012 03:23 AM (FMbng)

771 764 Yeah, kind of amazing. They're eventually going to bring the taxes on the pope tobacco up. It'll still be a deal, though not nearly as good.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 03:09 AM

Oh, yeah. Theyll do that. "Eventually" will be sooner, rather than later.

Prices are already over $12/pack in places, so you can expect others to race to the same level eventually. I'm just offended by the prices and I like the idea of stiffing the government thieves for the revenue that they're going to abuse. To try and rip us off this badly and then turn around and ban us from smoking those overpriced cigarettes everywhere ... it makes my blood boil.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 17, 2012 03:09 AM

$17 approx, around here. I hear you. The fucks should be kissing our feet. That cowboy poetry doesn't pay for itself.

Posted by: otho at September 17, 2012 03:24 AM (yBF/9)

772
770
Hell NO! You saying my MAR-27's are killing me dime for dollar?

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 03:25 AM (2IlPT)

773 Proof that sometimes Justice CAN still prevail:

Guilty! Former police officer, 72, convicted of the abduction and murder of 7-year-old 'Pretty Maria' after 55 YEARS . . . the longest cold case in history

http://tinyurl.com/8e5cytw

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 17, 2012 03:29 AM (sZTYJ)

774
I still opine
To see a truth now and then, our countryis the best...uttered in bars and dinners and, truck stops with the masses all..going about their God given rights of commerce and the freedom of movement plying the individualgoal of upward progress...towards the prize so vaulted by those who come here. Because that is what they seek, and that is why they come here. IT IS AMERICA they want after all.

IT IS AMERICA THEY WANT!

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 03:49 AM (2IlPT)

775
Strange.....
Drones are overhead....this is where we've come?

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 03:54 AM (2IlPT)

776 Here in CA, pipe tobacco is taxed way out of proportion to any other form. The tobacco I smoked for decades went up tenfold. I now buy it from another state.

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at September 17, 2012 04:09 AM (IlZPo)

777 What the...predicted lows at night this week...in the 60s?Holy crap!I...I think summer's finally ending.*****************************

They're predicting a low of 32 for us Monday evening. Gotta bring the houseplants in from the deck. And so it begins.... sigh

Posted by: zeera at September 17, 2012 04:14 AM (XtxRN)

778
Sigh....

I'm out a here...

Night all M M's

Posted by: Richard the Less...Or MORE! at September 17, 2012 04:44 AM (2IlPT)

779 Summer is over in south FL. Distinct fall weather now.

Yes, contrary to rumor, FL has distinct seasons.

Posted by: @PurpAv at September 17, 2012 05:03 AM (CKVkl)

780 I make my own cigs and have for a long time. I was making top quality 100% Turkish tobacco cigs for around $1.20 per pack but then they came along and raised tax prices on bulk cigarette cut tobacco by 2400%. So I switched to a pipe blend cut, which still had a 280% tax increase, The pipe cut requires some hand processing to make it work well as a cig, and it increased my unit cost up to around $1.70/pack; I can live with that but it is a lot more work.

Then again, I get no additive 100% Turkish cigs for $1.70 a pack. I make a lot of them while reading AoS threads so it is a twofer.

They are already trying to lose this 'loophole'; ie, they want more tax dollars. I've already investigated buying the seeds to plant my own tobacco.

I guess I should invest in making my own ethanol products too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 17, 2012 05:09 AM (ccXZP)

781 I'm not quite willing to go all Winston Wolf here on the seasons.....supposed to be 100 in LA on Thursday.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 17, 2012 05:11 AM (kaalw)

782 I will be in Orlando around noon, then back to VA early tomorrow. Fall weather suits me fine.

Posted by: sTevo at September 17, 2012 05:41 AM (ikBXS)

783 Had a heart attack yesterday. Now I'm wired up after getting three stents.

Yes, it sucks.

Posted by: Jwest at September 17, 2012 05:43 AM (WX6M1)

784 Had a heart attack yesterday. Now I'm wired up after getting three stents.



Yes, it sucks.

Posted by: Jwest at September 17, 2012 05:43 AM (WX6M1)

YIKES! How are you feeling? Sending prayers your way.

Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2012 06:05 AM (X6akg)

785 Tami, I'm feeling remarkably well. They scared the hell out of me with all the attention, but the procedure was easy.

Posted by: Jwest at September 17, 2012 06:13 AM (+z5LA)

786 Good to hear, Jwest! May you continue to feel better and better.

Posted by: Tami at September 17, 2012 06:16 AM (X6akg)

787 Amazing. If somebody said in my presence what Scarborough said above, there would surely be violence.

Posted by: epobirs at September 17, 2012 06:51 AM (kcfmt)

788
Berserker @ 767:

I love those tubes. I don't have any problem injecting them at all. I have a tops topomatic, and it does them no problem.

The Topomatic is what I use. It's the second injection machine I've bought, and compared to the first, it's built like a tank, and works great.

Someone mentioned the futility of explaining the roll your own method to other people....yeah. I have a friend who's paying 8 bucks a pack, and when I casually mention that I spend the same amount for a carton, he quickly changes the subject. He's moving to North Carolina soon...and he assures me that cigarettes there cost only ten dollars a carton. He'll soon have his rude awakening.

Another good tobacco is 'The Good Stuff', it's blended pipe/cigarette, and a six ounce bag costs between 5 and 6 dollars, and is enough for a carton. Adding in the cost of tubes at just under 2 dollars, and an entire carton costs me just under 8 dollars.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 17, 2012 06:54 AM (L7hol)






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