Chicago Teachers Leave Hundreds of Thousands of Kids Without An Education, For the Children, Or Something

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They could make so much more in another field, you know.
Just ask 'em.

Strange, they keep saying "for the children," but every utterance out of them concerns being personally paid more.

Lots of stuff at Instapundit, including this from John Fund.

Chicago teachers have the highest average salary of any city at $76,000 a year before benefits. The average family in the city only earns $47,000 a year. Yet the teachers rejected a 16 percent salary increase over four years at a time when most families are not getting any raises or are looking for work.

The city is being bled dry by the exorbitant benefits packages negotiated by previous elected officials. Teachers pay only 3 percent of their health-care costs and out of every new dollar set aside for public education in Illinois in the last five years, a full 71 cents has gone to teacher retirement costs.

But beyond the dollars, the fact is that Chicago schools need a fundamental shakeup — which of course the union is resisting. It is calling for changes in the teacher-evaluation system it just negotiated by making student performance less important.

It's all for the children, all of it, all for the children. Why don't you understand?

President Present: No comment, says Jay Carney.


Posted by: Ace at 05:15 PM



Comments

1 Of course it's for the children.

Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at September 10, 2012 05:17 PM (cgxNI)

2 I so want to use the N word.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:17 PM (9TTOe)

3 Tradition!

Posted by: fluffy on the roof at September 10, 2012 05:18 PM (z9HTb)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:18 PM (8y9MW)

5 I wish I could go on strike because i would not accept a 16% raise over four years.

Posted by: Penfold at September 10, 2012 05:19 PM (1PeEC)

6 That is pretty expensive babysitting, now is it not? Chicago schools do not turn out a student that can read, write, or reckon, but, that is OK?

Posted by: Will be taking applications & buying love slaves nice things using oil stock dividends after R/R win at September 10, 2012 05:19 PM (kXoT0)

7 It's all for the children teachers.

Posted by: dantesed at September 10, 2012 05:19 PM (3aU+6)

8 The picture on Drudge was nearly as disgusting as the Slutwalk ones.

Posted by: Penfold at September 10, 2012 05:20 PM (1PeEC)

9 The excess of low-quality trolls today and this story are completely unrelated.

Posted by: Baghdad Jimmy-Joe at September 10, 2012 05:20 PM (ggRof)

10 No no no, it's not for the children, it's for THE CHILDREN~!

Posted by: mediumheadboy at September 10, 2012 05:20 PM (aHR5E)

11 In a sane world, they'd all be fired, have no union and be replaced by people actually want to teach.

Fuck them all. And both my late parents were NYC teachers (while still alive, unlike most of today's NYC teachers).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:20 PM (+tqYo)

12 Damn, strike thru fail me.

Posted by: dantesed at September 10, 2012 05:20 PM (3aU+6)

13 But remember (per some idiot on twitter): The teachers have no impact on graduation rates, so we should pay them more but not subject them to any objective evaluation or provide school choice.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:21 PM (8y9MW)

14 I'll believe "It's for the Children" when I see children walking out of school with checks in hand.

Posted by: Sinclair Lewis at September 10, 2012 05:21 PM (e8kgV)

15 Are there any robotic goat vaginas yet in this thread? Because that's where all threads are going today.

Posted by: wooga at September 10, 2012 05:21 PM (vjyZP)

16 Over/Under how many children are killed during the strike and how many teachers lose sleep over it?

Posted by: Adam at September 10, 2012 05:21 PM (/YJYi)

17 This is some sort of role reversal thing ? .. right ?

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at September 10, 2012 05:21 PM (e8kgV)

18
Don't let a crisis go to waste!

Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at September 10, 2012 05:22 PM (cgxNI)

19 I remember when Marva Collins was all the rage on "60 Minutes." But when she actually outperformed Chicago's unionized teachers, you never heard her story again.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:22 PM (+tqYo)

20 Interesting how they're still opening the schools so the chilluns can still get their free meals.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 05:22 PM (zxrQh)

21 Beer summit for the win baby. Mitt should point out that Choom organized Chicago and suggest a beer summit. Take away the "winning" of these fake strikes being saved after being created.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:22 PM (bx23n)

22 Every time that Karen Lewis comes on our local news here, I throw up a little bit in my mouth. Fire 'em all and imprison the leaders.

Posted by: Chris M at September 10, 2012 05:23 PM (b3vSq)

23 It would be bad enough if these people were actually producing for the money, but the fact that they want to be paid so much for so little in the way of meaningful accomplishments, either in their own credentials or the performance of their charges, is really galling.

Tip for obnoxious union members: if you can be easily replaced, and if your job security depends on the willingness of the taxpayer to foot the bill for sheer incompetence, you should be a little more circumspect about your attitude.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:23 PM (6TB1Z)

24 Yes. For the children.

Posted by: Harry Reid (Pederast) at September 10, 2012 05:23 PM (0j3R9)

25 Meat shield, ure doing it wrong.

Posted by: cajun carrot at September 10, 2012 05:23 PM (UZQM8)

26 Their spokeshag is a fine looking harpy.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:23 PM (bx23n)

27 "Are there any robotic goat vaginas yet in this thread? Because that's where all threads are going today."

I'm sure Allen G will have a post about them on his blog shortly.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (zxrQh)

28 Karen Lewis

275 lbs of shit in a 5 lb sack.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (0j3R9)

29 What I hate most about these union thugs, the democrat party's other other other organized crime wing, is dun dun dun of course the sanctimony.

You aren't working families. You're fucking civil servants. Overpaid, incompetent, highly entitled and contemptuous civil servants.

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (QxSug)

30 Media accounts indicate that the city’s latest offer was to raise teacher pay 16% over the next four years, but the senior city official and other sources with knowledge of the negotiations say the union demanded raises that would amount to at least a 35% salary increase over three years as well as guaranteed jobs for any teachers who get laid off as Chicago’s schools downsize.

Posted by: George Wallace at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (e8kgV)

31
The problem is 1) Discipline in the class room.
And 2) Insistence upon standards.

We have taken most of the power of teachers and principles away.

What do you expect in a classroom with no discipline and no respect for actual learning? And very negative consequences for improper behavior.

Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (wUFaM)

32 No only can they not teach, but the ugly stick came down hard on that bunch.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (vbh31)

33 But they need the extra money if they're to fight the racism of PB&J sandwiches!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (GEICT)

34 Teachers should make over 100K per year. The lesson planning, classroom instruction, parent contact, meetings etc require significant dedication. Go chicago!

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (AK1Ip)

35 crush the teachers union, for the children.

Posted by: PR at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (KHo8t)

36 So I'm looking at the pic, above, and I'm wondering if it's only Girl's Gym Teachers that are on strike?

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (0j3R9)

37 2 OSP,

Nag? Feel free. It is apt and short.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (bx23n)

38 What I notice in the photo above is that being in a teachers union makes one fat.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (tf9Ne)

39 20
Interesting how they're still opening the schools so the chilluns can still get their free meals.


If there's one thing these people know how to do, it's avoid the damning news story about hungry kids who just want a hot breakfast, but can't get it because the teachers want a higher COLA.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (6TB1Z)

40 Most children will learn better on their own, without the retarded teachers. No joke.

Education grads have the lowest mean GRE scores of anyone, including lower math scores than English grads and lower overall scores than the super-retarded sociology grads. They're just that bad. They don't merit minimum wage, to be perfectly honest.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (X3lox)

41 #30 Not only more pay, but more no-show jobs! The Chicago Way!

Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (wUFaM)

42 I'm sure Allen G will have a post about them on his blog shortly.

No. I leave those discussions here.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (8y9MW)

43 Teachers need more education than ever. Why are people trying to stop progress?

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (AK1Ip)

44 Charter schools still up and running. You know, actually serving the children...

Posted by: Lauren at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (wsGWu)

45 Why are so many of today's teachers fat-asses?
Come to think of it, most of my teachers were on the skinny side.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (mZ8Y2)

46 Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:23 PM (bx23n)

Is she the one on the right in the photo?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (2b4yb)

47 We're the same as engineers you know. We go to university for 5 years. So we deserve the same pay as engineers.

Posted by: Teachers Union Sentient Robot Cheetah at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (vDl/w)

48 Don't think for one second that Obama didn't want this to happen. This has been orchestrated.

Posted by: i am mad as hell and i am not going to take it anymore at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (cgxNI)

49
Prediction:

This is all orchestrated for Obama to step in and mediate a deal. It IS an election year, no??


Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (C8hzL)

50 Chants heard at the Chicago Teacher's Union rally:

"What do we want? CUPCAKES! When do we want them? NOW!"

"No Jelly Donuts, No Peace!"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (SY2Kh)

51 Unsurprisingly, the IQ of the students will probably increase with every day that the teachers aren't teaching them.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (BJVEF)

52 Though, if you're yearning for a post over at my place, I suppose I can scare something up...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (8y9MW)

53 38 What I notice in the photo above is that being in a teachers union makes one fat.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (tf9Ne)



Shouldn't the First Lady be decrying unions?!

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (GEICT)

54 Bright side:
Those two hotties up front won't be corrupting some poor unsuspecting school boys by having sex with them. For a while at least.

Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 10, 2012 05:26 PM (AlQdV)

55 "Education grads have the lowest mean GRE scores." Maybe 30 years ago. Not true today. Are you telling me a science teacher is overpaid?

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (AK1Ip)

56 Heh. I was just pimping your blog.

Apparently no one is aware of its existence.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (zxrQh)

57 You know, I used to ride train into,Chicago.

Posted by: Vic at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (YdQQY)

58 Send in CouncChocula!

Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (GvYeG)

59 and another illustration of how the democrat party holds us taxpayers hostage. First, you know, every $1 spent by government is vital and cutting it would lead to instant deaths of elderly, the poor, and minorities. Second, any cuts will be taken from front line, vital civil servant, not to the 95% of civil servants who only exist to draw a check and pay union dues.

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (QxSug)

60 I they weren't died-in-the-wool socialists, Moochelle would have those gals on forced tofu in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (vbh31)

61 contemptuous civil servants

Do you mean that the civil servants view their benefactors with contempt (contemptuous), or that we should view the teachers with contempt (contemptible). Ah, I see. No need to choose.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (6TB1Z)

62 Watch out! It's a stampede!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (BAS5M)

63 If it weren't for the t-shirts, i would have thought it was a jazzercise class for crazy old ladies.

Posted by: Penfold at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (1PeEC)

64
Charter schools are in bed with corporations. They are taking resources from public systems and should be stopped.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (AK1Ip)

65 lolz, I wonder if this is the same herd of buffalo that had one of their fatty members go crazy and charge Paul Ryan last month.

Hey girl, it's food not love.

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (QxSug)

66
@13,

Yeah, some broad in Twitter tried that one. Told her she should have her pay cut since she made no difference.

She told me that my "functionality based argument is asinine."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (Bdaaw)

67 I wonder what the graduation rate in Chicago's high schools is? Whatever it is, these leeches should get that percentage of the average city resident's income for pay.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (d0Tfm)

68 Teachers should make over 100K per year. The lesson planning, classroom
instruction, parent contact, meetings etc require significant
dedication. Go chicago!



Why is literacy declining in America?

Posted by: fluffy at September 10, 2012 05:28 PM (z9HTb)

69 What do you expect in a classroom with no discipline and no respect for actual learning? And very negative consequences for improper behavior.

Posted by: Jack at September 10, 2012 05:24 PM (wUFaM)


Nothing. Get rid of them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (bxiXv)

70 U R a big hater and raccist we diserve the rays we are teeeching yur chillun to be gud cityzens and bee smartt and wurk in aweful condityons to do this for almoste 9ine mounths in a yeer.

Dont wurry racsicst Obama will come to awr rescue and give us awl we want!

Posted by: Shoplivta Brown-Harris, Proud Member of CTU and English Teacher At Fenger High (No Fatalities This S at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (VMcoS)

71 With something like 80% of8th graders performing below grade level it should be the teacher's patriotic duty to STAY ON STRIKE.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (BJVEF)

72 46 CBD,

I am on the Samsung Galaxy, but I think sheis the one on Fox's story on it. I mean they are all beautiful, it is like a pasture in central Texas.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (bx23n)

73 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:20 PM (+tqYo)

My grandmother was a NYC schoolteacher. Perfect grammar. It was odd. She used to look at me like I was some kind of retarded subhuman when I used anything other than correct English. She actually asked my grandfather (a pediatrician) if I was a little slow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (2b4yb)

74 61, lolz, grammar police

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (QxSug)

75 RG3 gets paid millions to play football and these teachers get only $76k to teach the next generation. The difference of course is that RG3 is worth it.

Posted by: PR at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (KHo8t)

76 Those who can do.
Those who can't teach.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (0j3R9)

77
i is frum chikago and i thnk thas artilce is a bunsh of ballshet
the techars theer are the bestist!!

RASICTS!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (Shrag)

78 Give us all your money, and we won't rape your children. Well...too often, anyway.

Posted by: UrbanSubsidies at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (ggRof)

79 Apparently no one is aware of its existence.

Not enough. Though really what I need is other people pimping by blog on teh Tweet.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (8y9MW)

80 37 2 OSP,

Nag? Feel free. It is apt and short.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:25 PM (bx23n)


I'm a Teacher in a non union state. Unions are only part of the problem. Teachers now lack the ability to remove problem students from their classrooms because of Lawsuits. Can't remove problem teachers because of, Lawsuits. Can't teach the word of God because of, Lawsuits. Why are things so FKD up?

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (9TTOe)

81 AIRDROP RICHARD SIMMONS STAT

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (mZ8Y2)

82 The 1% is selfish and trying to take over education with things like charter schools.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (AK1Ip)

83 "Education grads have the lowest mean GRE scores." Maybe 30 years ago. Not true today.

Incorrect. As true today as ever. Go check the ETS web site ... if you can deal with numbers over 20.

Are you telling me a science teacher is overpaid?

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:27 PM (AK1Ip)


Are you unable to read?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (X3lox)

84 These are the people that were insisting all last week that what they really want is equal opportunity.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (K4AdI)

85 And here's the problem with teacher's unions: they're doing pretty well compared to other jobs of their education level, better than many. They have a job which is important in this economy. Their state is bankrupt and collapsing. And yet they want more, they demand more, and if they don't get it, they're going to stamp their foot and hold their breath.

They sure picked the right time to do it though. No way this gets very long because it would hurt Obama to have his home state full of striking fat heifers demanding more money.

Teachers' unions have absolutely no concern for children, not a bit. They exist only for the teachers and especially the union leadership. And, of course, the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (r4wIV)

86
Those "ladies" look supiciously alot like the fine gals in the "dont rape me bro" thread. hmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (C8hzL)

87 those fuckers, you know how hard it is to make $100K in the private sector. God damn, I hate these insulated union thugs. Wish they'd get busted back to $20K a year.

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (QxSug)

88 "functionality based argument is asinine."


Functionality is antithetical to teacher's unions.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 05:30 PM (GEICT)

89 Maybe 30 years ago. Not true today. Are you telling me a science teacher is overpaid?

No, it's true today. Is a science teacher overpaid? Depends. Does the science teacher have an honest to god science degree, or a degree in pedagogy? And even if the former, it depends on whether you can hire someone with that real science degree for less.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (6TB1Z)

90 57 Vic,

So did they...the stockyards are still in Chicago IIRC.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (bx23n)

91 I remember someone once describing the NYC school system as a "...repository for idlers and hack."

He was referring to the teachers, not the kids.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (+tqYo)

92 "Teachers now lack the ability to remove problem students from their classrooms because of Lawsuits. " True. Too many lawyers and the legal system needs reform.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (AK1Ip)

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (6TB1Z)

94 Bless their hearts.

Posted by: dantesed at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (3aU+6)

95 ITALIANS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (+tqYo)

96 Wow, pigs at the trough, indeed!

Posted by: runningrn at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (WGmy2)

97 Oh, now they've retreated...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (+tqYo)

98 You're right, Average Joe! How dare Charter schools exist? They only have a 90% grad rate. We should all just accept that the sub 50% grad rate in Chicago is as good as it gets. For the children, of course.

Posted by: Lauren at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (wsGWu)

99 Those who can do.
Those who can't teach.
Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (0j3R9)

Fuck you Garret. I'll take your ass on financially or academically anytime. Don't say shit like that cause it's not true. You know better.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (9TTOe)

100 72 hey! quit insulting our cattle!

Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (GvYeG)

101 I see fat white wimmen with jazz hands.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (mZ8Y2)

102 Pep: 1 Internetz and it's your turn in the barrel.

The difference of course is that RG3 is worth it.

Also that I'm not forced to pay RG3's salary.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (8y9MW)

103 Teachers can get sued for no reason and be removed. That is why they need union protection.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (AK1Ip)

104 I heard one of these brain trusts say she realizes that Chicago doesn't have the money for the raises so they need to raise the taxes to pay for it...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (W2Z3C)

105 UrbanStudies, why is literacy declining in America?

Posted by: fluffy at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (z9HTb)

106 What I notice in the photo above is that being in a teachers union makes one fat.

Send in the Let's Move squad.

Posted by: Waterhouse at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (ZPuY0)

107
oh and yeah, went to private grade and public high/ private high midway
shoutout to our lady of mt carmel, lane tech and holy trinity!!

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (Shrag)

108 If you learned to read, hug your teacher. Okay it may take 3 or 5 of you to get your little arms around her, but so it anyway. Just be prepared to dive away if she begins to sit down.

Miss Crabtree weeps.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (BAS5M)

109 89 Pep,

They shouls sell Meth less societal damage done.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (bx23n)

110 yes, they're over paid. They teach from a book. There's no original work being done. WTF, they're just overpaid baby sitters. Which is nice, not earning twice what the city makes nice. Not being immune to bad behavior and incompetency nice.

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (QxSug)

111 Average Joe...........isn't even that.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (VMcoS)

112 I'm a Teacher in a non union state. Unions are only part of the problem. Teachers now lack the ability to remove problem students from their classrooms because of Lawsuits. Can't remove problem teachers because of, Lawsuits. Can't teach the word of God because of, Lawsuits. Why are things so FKD up?


LAWYERS

*spit*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (GEICT)

113 New bad troll or unfunny sock?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (WyvSj)

114 Hedley LaMarr: Crime?

Waco Kid: Stampeding cattle.

Hedley LaMarr: That's not much of a crime.

Sheriff Bart: Through the Vatican?

Hedley LaMarr: Kinky! I like it!

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (zxrQh)

115 Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:29 PM (bx23n)

I was referring to the one in the photo at the top of this post...and then I was going to make fun of you.

Thanks for screwing up the joke.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (2b4yb)

116 "Romney Rips Chicago Teachers Union, Obama Over Strike"
http://bit.ly/PXoH9u

Posted by: 80sBaby at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (YjDyJ)

117 As I've said, my brother's wife is a union teacher who just retired. He has gotten his health insurance through her.

The new republican governor in Michigan is encouraging schools to get their benefits costs under control. He had cut some of their funding, but is giving funding back to districts that get their benefits under control. These changes aren't short term help, such as the stimulus money that went to schools.

My sister in law has been bitching because she now, as a retiree, has to pay 20% of her premiums.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (SVfeX)

118 and that's the percentage of these union thugs who actually teach! Many are in rubber rooms or useless admin types

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (QxSug)

119 "Does the science teacher have an honest to god science degree, or a degree in pedagogy? Pedagogy is just as important as science. Sciencemajors need to learn to communicate and work with children.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (AK1Ip)

120 They can stay on strike until 2100 AD for all I care, as long as they're not collecting any tax money.

I hope it spreads.

The kids are probably getting smarter by the minute not being locked up in pens several hours a day being led in a monosyllabic sing-along by a collectivist drone.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (bxiXv)

121 Hey, all this time we've been regulating the students lunches in order to fight obesity. We're doing it wrong.


What is the thinking on this, if they hate lunch, they'll hate school, and then they won't come back and become lardtastic union hacks?

Posted by: entropy at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (YUttk)

122
If Rahm listens to the same people that advise Walker, he may be able to do something positive for Chicago. But it will be painful. a LOOOONNNGGG Strike would be needed. Aint gonna happen.

Too many people are willing to capitulate too quickly to this type of extortion.
Dead Children? The union will say a few words, but does not give a shit. They know it ups the pressure on the Chicago negotiators. Those uncaring bastards on the city side only care about money (and teachers don't!?!?)
Failed tests and kids that cannot graduate? Too bad! If only Chicago gave us everything we asked for.
Kids cannot read? Not our fault! We are only teachers, we are not to blame if YOUR kid cannot read. WE won't let you even test the teachers to see if they are competent.


Posted by: rd at September 10, 2012 05:34 PM (9sUlj)

123 Best thing I can sugest is the teacher union anounce they are for Traditinal Marrage, the let the mayor chew them out for not having the same values as Chicago and tell them they are not welcome in Chicago. Public support for the union goes up because (not sure on that) but if it does win.

Posted by: Picric at September 10, 2012 05:34 PM (ZiQ5I)

124 Matt Damon's mother is a teacher.

I mean, "educator."

Matt Damon.

Matt Damon!

MAATTTTTTTT DAAMMMOONNNNNNN!!

Posted by: General Zod at September 10, 2012 05:34 PM (2+bRt)

125 Teachers can get sued for no reason and be removed. That is why they need union protection.


Posted by: UrbanStudies

Lol, if only that were true.

Posted by: Penfold at September 10, 2012 05:34 PM (1PeEC)

126 Teachers can sleep at their desk while the kids have sex in the classroom. That is why they need union protection. To make sure they can afford a video camera so they can sell the videos to child pornographers.

Posted by: UrbanSubsidies at September 10, 2012 05:34 PM (ggRof)

127 103 US,

"No reason" including carnal knowledge of students, inability to do their fucking job, trying to indoctrinate rather than do their job, etc etc

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:34 PM (bx23n)

128 I agree that teachers getting benefits likecosmetic surgery is a little over the top. I know an elementary teacher who got a facelift in Denver.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (AK1Ip)

129
Obama sez:

"Shut up."

Posted by: Optimizer at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (As94z)

130
This a.m., Rush said that the graduation rate in Chicago public schools is barely 50% and in charter schools, 90%. But gee, which option do Democrats support and which one dothey demonize?
Democrats have done so much damage to the Black community. It's absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: runningrn at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (WGmy2)

131 The kids are probably getting smarter by the minute not being locked up
in pens several hours a day being led in a monosyllabic sing-along by a
collectivist drone.


It's like raising veal.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (vbh31)

132 Yeah you cannot blame only unions, but they are one big problem with education and because of their political clout, other areas of government as well. Parents are a big problem, TV and society is another, lawsuits is another, and just flat out teachers are another. I mean, a lot of the teachers are products of the same craptastic system they contribute to.

There are some great teachers out there, just like there are moderate Muslims and modern musicians.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (r4wIV)

133 Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (AK1Ip)

Welcome! You are new here, so just a short primer on the informal rules.

If you say stunningly stupid stuff that is objectively incorrect, you will be mocked.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (2b4yb)

134 Nothing wrong with showing students an education video.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (AK1Ip)

135 Again with my sister in law.
I used to like this woman and it is getting to the point where it is very difficult for me to have a visit with her without getting into it.

I avoid bringing up topics that I know we disagree on. But she brings them up, because her union brainwashing has her convinced that what they promote is absolutely correct, and no sane person would disagree with their point of view.

These union teachers are totally oblivious to the economic sacrifices that others have had to make. They just plain don't think in terms of anyone but themselves.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (SVfeX)

136 So is this a set-up to have Obama ride in on his white charger and save the day? oops I said white... raaacist

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 05:36 PM (W2Z3C)

137 Hey Ace:

DAMONNN!

Posted by: General Zod at September 10, 2012 05:36 PM (2+bRt)

138 Yeah, Rush had this pegged.

Union kabuki to aide in Obama's re-election.

Cause a bit of controllable chaos, so President 3 words can ride in the on the white (racist?) horse and save the day...for the CHIIIILDRENNNNNN!

There are no coincidences with this bunch.

Posted by: AtlasMugged at September 10, 2012 05:36 PM (u0GTE)

139
134 let me guess.......
you're not from chicago, are you?

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:36 PM (Shrag)

140 I heard moronic folks in Chicago today actually honking in support of these strikers. Every horn honk was essentially telling the government to fuck me more, raise my taxes more, sustain a school system that fails its students. The "win" will be a raise that is ridiculous and financially unsustainable but slightly less than asked for by the teachers.

Posted by: ejo at September 10, 2012 05:36 PM (7DzVb)

141 There are some great teachers out there, just like there are moderate Muslims and modern musicians.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (r4wIV)

You can suck my dick. I'm a very good Math teacher.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (9TTOe)

142 Anyone can get sued and fired, that's no excuse for a union. Unions exist to protect workers from exploitation and abuse by employers and there's never yet been a teacher that has suffered anything like that. Lets just put an end to that nonsense right now. No government employee has ever been working just to pay off their debt to the company store, that's a pile of crap.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (r4wIV)

143 120 Mero,

You could accomplish the democrats goals more cheaply by having 1 teacher for every 50 students who show up at the library. Hell you could cater the damn thing. Let the kids finish each other off or go Pooki.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (bx23n)

144 Some leftie on the FB got all sorts of pissed when I responded to his stupid e-card thing that said "I do it for the money said no teacher ever."

I said, "so why don't they work for free?"

He's the same one that keeps posting a bunch of shit for some stupid "one million strong against Mitt Romney" that has some 250k members.

I'm thinking I need to respond to him the next time he posts one of those, "Not sure I can trust any site that represents that they are one million when they are actually a quarter of that."

Posted by: RoyalOil at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (imtbm)

145 @102
?

@119
Pedagogy is just as important as science. Sciencemajors need to learn to communicate and work with children.

No, it isn't. If you don't understand the material, you can't teach it. You can teach it badly if you understand it, but still teach it. And in any case, pedagogy tends to be 2-bit concepts wrapped up in 64-dollar phrases. It ain't that hard. In fact, most people properly motivated can do it. Most can't learn science well enough to really teach it.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (6TB1Z)

146 UrbanStudies is not interested in a conversation. I'll you why literacy is declining. Teachers are unaccountable for sub-standard performance. Unions protect teachers from accountability.


It is well past time to start over from square one.

Posted by: fluffy at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (z9HTb)

147 "trying to indoctrinate" Many teachers need to go along with the system or risk losing their jobs. I agree we need reform with a focus on content and not politics.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (AK1Ip)

148
I wonder what those harpies in the foreground teach? PE, perhaps?

Posted by: Brown Line at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (zVyMI)

149
Teachers can get sued for no reason and be removed. That is why they need union protection.


Yeah, right. That's why M.D.'s are all unionized too.

Posted by: runningrn at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (WGmy2)

150 Unions protect teachers from being fired for a bad reason or no reason.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:38 PM (AK1Ip)

151 I'm a very good Math teacher.

And there are moderate Muslims. There are even a few good modern musicians. I wasn't saying they're a myth, I was saying they're rare and under represented.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:38 PM (r4wIV)

152 141 OSP,

Great go private tutor make more money in all likelihood.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:38 PM (bx23n)

153 Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:33 PM (AK1Ip)

My apologies...I didn't realize that you are a sock.

[Just a suggestion: tune up the logic, it makes it more amusing and believable]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:38 PM (2b4yb)

154 125
Teachers can get sued for no reason and be removed. That is why they need union protection.




Posted by: UrbanStudies


Ah, I get it. US is a troll. Say no more.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (6TB1Z)

155
By the way, most of the strikers' children go to private schools because the public schools are failures. Same with most Dem leaders, including Rahm.

Posted by: ejo at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (7DzVb)

156 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:38 PM (r4wIV)


OK then :-)

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (9TTOe)

157 Yay. My two favorite topics: Public sector unions and Chicago.


Is it wrong to wish this cess-pool follows Detroit over the cliff?

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (a4CUi)

158 Slightly off topic regarding higher education. I was talking to a lady I know who is an adjunct professor. Her college (and I gather most of them) have an official policy regarding sexual relations between faculty and students. It is fully condoned as long as it isn't someone you are currently teaching.

And we wonder how the phenomena of hot 20 something girl teacher sleeping with 14 year old boys started.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (WyvSj)

159 Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (6TB1Z)

The fine for failing to close your formatting tags is 1 internetz. That is increased to 1 internetz and a turn in the barrel if your carry-over mess up other people's posts, too.

Sorry. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (8y9MW)

160 "I'm thinking I need to respond to him the next time he posts one of those, "Not sure I can trust any site that represents that they are one million when they are actually a quarter of that." The movement against Romney is growing. I am so proud of the younger generation. They see the truth.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (AK1Ip)

161 150 US,

Or a good reason or a criminal reason....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (bx23n)

162 Unions protect teachers from being fired for a bad reason or no reason.

Or, any reason at all. You can molest kids in your class and keep your job! You can suck completely and have all your kids fail, and keep your job!

Guess what, everyone can be fired for bad reasons and no reasons. That's part of being hired and working for someone else, you work at their pleasure and for their money. Deal with it, everyone else has to. If the reason is illegal, you can take them to court.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (r4wIV)

163
btw, speaking of chicago...
BEARS WIN!!!!! BEARS WIN!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:39 PM (Shrag)

164 It's like raising veal.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:35 PM (vbh31)


Veal doesn't vote.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (bxiXv)

165 >>Fuck you Garret. I'll take your ass on financially or academically anytime. Don't say shit like that cause it's not true. You know better.

GRE's at dawn, sir!

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (0j3R9)

166 There's nothing wrong with America's education system. From Pre-K to the Harrrrvard Law School. Everything is tip top.

Posted by: African American Studies in Midwifery during the 1800s at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (/YJYi)

167 Chicago is a model for elite higher education.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (AK1Ip)

168 155

By the way, most of the strikers' children go to private schools
because the public schools are failures. Same with most Dem leaders,
including Rahm.

Yes Rahms little darlings go to a school that costs 25,000 a year. Of course that is probably half of the per student cost in Chicago paid for by the public...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (W2Z3C)

169 Its all for the people who behave like children.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (D9CxV)

170 You can suck my dick. I'm a very good Math teacher.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:37 PM (9TTOe)


Picturing you writing that on the chalkboard on the first day of school. (with an exclamation point, of course)

Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (AlQdV)

171 >>>Teachers are unaccountable for sub-standard performance. Unions protect teachers from accountability.

Or they're forced by administration to "fail" kids up to the next grade. Ever wonder why so many incoming college freshmen have to take remedial classes?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2012 05:40 PM (mZ8Y2)

172 Chicago Teachers Union or Fat White Dikes Union?

Posted by: Torch-Wielding Villager at September 10, 2012 05:41 PM (sTS/8)

173 does anyone think that the average SAT score of these thugs is above 1000?

Posted by: avi at September 10, 2012 05:41 PM (51xVX)

174 I would agree that culture (or lack thereof, especially in the inner city) makes teaching that much more difficult, along with doing anything in the way that might injure a child's self-esteem (let alone give him a whack on the knuckles).

But this only goes so far. Parents are desperate to send their kids to private schools for a reason. We are spending almost $20,000 per child to allegedly educate him/her.

Better just to give the money directly to the parents so they can send to kid to a private school. Public schools are a disaster in every way, not only for the kids but for the future of this country.

Chickens, roosts, etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:41 PM (+tqYo)

175 Veal doesn't vote.

It will be on Nov. 6th. Along with the dead.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:41 PM (vbh31)

176 I had good teachers, including a great geometry teacher who taught me more about organized thought, logic, and reason than anyone else I've ever known. And I had about 3 mediocre teachers and 2 bad teachers for each good one. The good ones really made a difference and made up for the not-so-good ones.

The problem is the system is now set up to encourage the bad by protecting them and not encouraging the good. And what's worse, the educational philosophy and materials is corrosive to liberty, reason, and the future.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:41 PM (r4wIV)

177
164 Veal doesn't vote.
ummm, we are talking about chicago
you sure about that statement?

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (Shrag)

178 I worked at a Sears auto center during college. One of the service writers (the guys and gals who write down what we tool-monkeys were supposed to do to the ambulatory junkpiles our customers drove-or pushed-into the parking lot) was an African-American gent; real nice guy, but the stuff he wrote was complete, absolute gibberish. "Car idles too high when it is." "Car aligned too high." "Noise when turned."

At one lunch bull session it was mentioned that he was a Chicago school teacher, English his specialty. Yeah, right, though I, that's just cruel.

But I made the point to engage the guy in conversation, and not only did he teach in the Chicago school system, but he taught...........English. At the very same high school my parents moved out of Chicago to avoid me going to it.

Strange, but true.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (VMcoS)

179 Well I for one vote for veal!

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (a4CUi)

180 Sorry. I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.

But I should get extra credit for closing them a few posts later. Please mistress, not the lash!

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (6TB1Z)

181
I think Mitt should take a little risk here and stick his beak in.

Just say get back to work and be grateful you have jobs.

Posted by: soothsayer at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (OgiBc)

182 Chicago is a model for elite higher education.

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model - (n): a cheap plastic down scaled replica of the real article.

Posted by: Merriam - Webster at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (C8hzL)

183 173 avi,

No no act over 26 either

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (bx23n)

184 155 Of course they do, they know how bad an education they give and they can afford to send their kids to nicer schools.

Posted by: Penfold at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (1PeEC)

185 Never had a good math teacher from middle school to high school. But I didn't graduate high school that long ago.

Posted by: Adam at September 10, 2012 05:43 PM (/YJYi)

186
Chicago=Obama

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:43 PM (AK1Ip)

187 The sad thing is that they probably could already afford to pay a six-digit salary for a teacher if they were only fiscally responsible.

I'm not going to bother looking up the data for Chicago's school district, but most big school districts spend between $300,000 and $500,00 PER CLASSROOM.

How they are unable to teach the vast majority of kids with that much cash is beyond me...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 10, 2012 05:43 PM (XvHmy)

188 Don't let the children miss their anti-obesity lectures! If we don't do it, who will?

Posted by: Chicago Teacher's Moo-nion (pictured) at September 10, 2012 05:43 PM (FcR7P)

189 Well I for one vote for veal!

Thank you! I'll be here all week!

Posted by: Veal at September 10, 2012 05:43 PM (vbh31)

190 181 Soothsayer,

Hell yeah take a stand on PEUs and say "really?"

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (bx23n)

191 Unions protect teachers from being fired for minor offenses, such as drug dealing, rape, and murder. Who among you hasn't made a mistake? Should you lose your job for it?

Posted by: UrbanSubsidies at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (ggRof)

192 Her college (and I gather most of them) have an official policy regarding sexual relations between faculty and students. It is fully condoned as long as it isn't someone you are currently teaching.

College students are presumed to be adults, so its nobody's business who they make the two backed beast with, etc. Its just a professional ethics problem if you bone that cute coed that's in your class.

Of course, the creepy "he's 40 and she's barely 18" thing should apply too but the guys who make those rules are hoping that happens to them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (r4wIV)

193
186 Chicago=Obama
eat a dick

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (Shrag)

194 179
Well I for one vote for veal!

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 05:42 PM (a4CUi)



Savages! Animals have feelings too!

Posted by: PETA at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (/YJYi)

195 out of every new dollar set aside for public education in Illinois in
the last five years, a full 71 cents has gone to teacher retirement
costs.

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But we have to INVEST in EDUCATION!!

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (P6QsQ)

196 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:31 PM (9TTOe)

Garrett is slightly off.

The correct quotation is:

Those who can -- do.
Those who can't -- teach.
Those who can't teach -- teach math.

Just trying to help.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (2b4yb)

197 Posted by: African American Studies in Midwifery during the 1800s

Far, far too much scholarship going on there.

Try African American Studies in Midwifery in Alice Walker Novels.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (NRwWP)

198 This is not going over well with anyone. It's all everyone is talking about and not in a nice way. No one is saying "oh those poor teachers, everyone else has taken three pay cuts and had no raises but let's give them a huge raise"....people aren't being very nice. I tried to think of a comment suitable for posting here but almost everyone, even the non cursers, cursed......so it would be redacted to something not intelligible.

the worst are the families of teachers fired here when the union said "we want our raise, so fire those new teachers". Or the families of the people who took on debt to get a master's degree in special ed and regular ed cause they were told "it would be easier to get a job" and now they can't get one. The people in those jobs aren't moving. They have it too good. A lot of them not only had their master's paid for by the districts but also have "summer learning workshops"...at lovely vacation venues, paid for by the district. Plus the best health insurance, pensions and all the other little perks you find out about when you start to dig.

And the school district I attended was in the top ten in the country when I was there and it has fallen to below 100 yet they have been given raises and all manner of little nice things....

They all have tenure. They obviously, if the school district has fallen in the rankings, aren't doing their jobs....but they prevail and my parents property taxes keep going up.

My mom remembers when they said the lottery would go towards education. That hasn't happened as property taxes have continued to go up, so everyone always asks "where did the lottery money go?"

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (oZfic)

199 Veal is okay, so long as you pull it out of the womb before it's born.

Then it's only a viable tissue mass, so it conforms to the Dem party platform!

Mangia!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (+tqYo)

200 That crowd shot of striking teachers looks like they just rang the "fresh rolls are ready" bell at Golden Corral®.

Posted by: Dang at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (R18D0)

201 sven (#26):
Please please use a hyphen. When you mean to call somone a 'spokes-hag' and you leave out they hyphen, it's way too easy to misread it as 'spoke-shag', and that's not good.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (IEmXK)

202 152 141 OSP,

Great go private tutor make more money in all likelihood.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:38 PM (bx23n)

No, it was never about the money. I quit a six figure job to become a math Teacher. I failed 7th grade Algebra because my teacher was a FKING CNT.

I knew I could do better. After 20 years in factories and on the corporate hampster wheel, I made enough money to do what I want. I went back to College and got another degree. This one in education. Yes, I could write an entire book on what a FKN fraudulent experiance that was. I just wanted to be better than what I had. FYI, Mrs. Sailor makes big coin and OK'd this move.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (9TTOe)

203 >>You can suck my dick. I'm a very good Math teacher.

Good thing you're not a very good English teacher. Math isn't a proper noun. "Math" wouldn't be capitalized unless it began a sentence or was used as part of the title for a specific math class.

Posted by: General Zod at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (2+bRt)

204
170You can suck my dick. I'm a very good Math teacher<<<<<

Don't stand so close to me.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (Bdaaw)

205 I agree that a major problem is that good teachers speak up at meetings but eventually get fired. Bad teachers who just go along with progressive politics get promoted. Sad but true. Happens all the time in education.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (AK1Ip)

206 Just trying to help.

I always heard:

Those who can - do.
Those who can't - teach.
Those who can't teach - set policy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (8y9MW)

207 Well I for one vote for veal!

I'm no carnivore, but I'd kill a calf with a tack hammer myself if it meant getting some veal.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (r4wIV)

208 >>Just trying to help.

I lost my commas in the quest for proper spacing.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (0j3R9)

209 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:44 PM (2b4yb)



You are in so much trouble.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (GEICT)

210 The average education major's SAT score is under 500/ subject.

Posted by: Lauren at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (wsGWu)

211 193 NCJ,

Oprah said so dude....you ready to cut that deal?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (bx23n)

212 And if you're wondering why the guy going to engineering school was busting tires and wrenching mufflers while the functional illiterate was writing up the service work, well, let's just say management felt they had enough white service writers and needed someone our minority customers could relate to. I know this, because I asked.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (VMcoS)

213
198 And the school district I attended was in the top ten in the country
you can also go eat a dick

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (Shrag)

214 Who cares that an average teacher in Chicago makes $76,000 before benefits while the average family makes under $50,000 total? Teachers deserve $100,000 plus Cadillac health care plans and pensions that will bankrupt the city in the coming years. Forward! Progress!

Posted by: Urban Studiezzz at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (/YJYi)

215 I also find that churches are the ones stepping up to the plate offering a safe place and lunchesfor the kids affected by the strike. Churches!!!!

Posted by: runningrn at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (WGmy2)

216 "Math" wouldn't be capitalized unless it began a sentence or was used as part of the title for a specific math class.
Posted by: General Zod at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (2+bRt)


I think it's proof he's a German spy.

Posted by: UrbanSubsidies at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (ggRof)

217 SIGH

Some just give teachers a bad name

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (xMq47)

218 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (6o4Fb)

219 and of course, SCAOMF doesn't comment. He is coordinating with the union thugs.

One benefit of our opponents being brain dead liberals is that they believe their creation mythology, "workers unit, revolution, etc. etc." bullshit.

Posted by: joeindc44 will boo your chosen deity on TV some day too at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (QxSug)

220 I think Mitt should take a little risk here and stick his beak in. Just say get back to work and be grateful you have jobs.

And gently remind them that they are the highest paid teachers in the country, and that they are paid with tax dollars.

And also remind them of their graduation rate of around 50%.

(This is why I'm not a politician.)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (d0Tfm)

221 Mean GRE scores (2011):

Intended Major: Verbal, Quantitative, Anlytical Writing

EDUCATION: 151, 148, 3.9
Arts - Performance Arts: 153, 150, 3.8
English Language, Literature: 157, 148, 4.3

Education grads are the dumbest of anyone. This is appropriate as the Edecation Department is the biggest collection of retards at any University - and that's no mean feat given the unbelievable idiots who populate the various joke departments that sociology and psychology spawned.

The friggin actors core better than the education idiots. The fact that society lets this group of retards make any decisions. let alone determining what children should learn (most of which the educators don't know, themselves) is beyond ridiculous.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2012 05:47 PM (X3lox)

222 205 US,

Feature not a bug...your area has the mad bomber for an icon in the field

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (bx23n)

223 Suck it, PETA. I have canine teeth and healthy does of top-tier bald-monkey predator chromosomes. You keep your pasty, nutrition deficits in your dimly lit basements and I'll keep firing out healthy loads of reproductive goodness until I'm 90 years old.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (a4CUi)

224 "How they are unable to teach the vast majority of kids with that much cash is beyond me..."90% of the money goes to salaries in benefits. School politics is very bad in my town.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (AK1Ip)

225 That crowd shot of striking teachers looks like they just rang the "fresh rolls are ready" bell at Golden Corral®.

Or "buy one, get five free!" at Pizza Hut.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (vbh31)

226 Chicago police officers start at 43,104 and after first 18 months increases to 65,016.
I'm seeing a cost push effect in Chicago's future.

Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (m2CN7)

227 Those teachers are obese. What kind of example is that? The should get a 22% pay cut for their health.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (PHb2k)

228 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:45 PM (8y9MW)


Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:46 PM (0j3R9)


I was just stirring the pot with Oldsailors Poet.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (2b4yb)

229 Support your local homeschooler.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (SUKHu)

230
"Education grads are the dumbest of anyone." Then why are teachers earning more than most economics majors in the private sector??

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:49 PM (AK1Ip)

231 OK, so is this a big conspiracy to create a crisis for Obama to heroically solve, as some have joked?

I mean really - a Chicago teacher's union doing this? Now?? It's almost too perfect a gift to us... a huge loud fat greedy angry union mob demanding more taxpayer money just 50-some days away from the election.

Posted by: weew at September 10, 2012 05:49 PM (ElfHn)

232 I wonder how all these young hooligans being out on the street is going to affect the already low Chicago crime rates...

Posted by: runningrn at September 10, 2012 05:49 PM (WGmy2)

233 General Zod I'm sendinh the son of your jailer....

Math! Is always capitalized here bud.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:49 PM (bx23n)

234
I was just stirring the pot with Oldsailors Poet.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:48 PM (2b4yb)

Yeah, I figured. Know your audiance, another teaching skill.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:50 PM (9TTOe)

235 Rep. Ryan- "And so, we were going to ask, where does President Obama stand? Does he stand with his former Chief of Staff Mayor Rahm Emanuel, with the children and the parents, or does he stand with the union?"

http://yhoo.it/ROy4M1

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 10, 2012 05:50 PM (YjDyJ)

236
211 Oprah said so dude
oprah is from the robert taylor homes just outside the dreaded white sox park
she can eat a dick too

for the record, i went to college across the street from there but i'm not going to eat a dick

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:50 PM (Shrag)

237 UrbanStudies, why is literacy declining in America?
Posted by: fluffy at September 10, 2012 05:32 PM (z9HTb)


-----------------------------------------


Look a little closer at that pic in the post. Need I explain?

Posted by: Soona at September 10, 2012 05:50 PM (tchi9)

238 Fire every damn one of them. I know some people who have just graduated with teaching credentials who can't find work right now...there ya go.

Posted by: Got A Redhot Poker Up My Ass at September 10, 2012 05:50 PM (t2z5E)

239 231 Weew,

Choom ges 'em 20% scold 'em for greed looks a hero.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (bx23n)

240 Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:50 PM (9TTOe)

All in fun.

No offense intended.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (2b4yb)

241 Every teacher I know is a pot-smoking, mushroom-sucking hippie.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (0j3R9)

242 "The average education major's SAT score is under 500/ subject." Part of this is the war on women because many women educate our children. The class ceiling is still there.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (AK1Ip)

243 "Education grads are the dumbest of anyone." Then why are teachers
earning more than most economics majors in the private sector??


Just 'cause they're dumb doesn't mean they're not canny. See also: SCOAMT.

That said: they're making that kind of money because they hold a virtual monopoly on education, and are in collusion with government (well, until the situation becomes untenable) to bilk the taxpayer out of money. Just like every other public employee union.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (8y9MW)

244 144 Some leftie on the FB got all sorts of pissed when I responded to his stupid e-card thing that said "I do it for the money said no teacher ever."

-----

Just a tangent here. This "said no person ever" trend must stop, and it must stop now. It has become a telltale sign of a person with a grossly overinflated view of their own wittiness, and more often than not they deserve a punch in their teeth for the point they are trying to make when using it.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (/tk/V)

245 Yep, it's time for a PATCO Moment. best thing that could happen.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (9TTOe)

246 I mean really - a Chicago teacher's union doing this? Now??

Well aside from being grossly out of touch, they have the Illinois government over a barrel. Obama is going to lean on them hard to shut this down and they'll cave like a chair under Rosanne Barr, I expect.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (r4wIV)

247 In the district I grew up in if a good teacher spoke up, they'd find a way to get rid of that teacher. If a parent spoke up, there kids weren't treated so well after that. At the parent teacher meetings the parents would all complain and then at the school board meeting someone would get up and voice the complaints and the others would remain mute. And the teachers who were on the school board would trounce the parent who would never do that again. But it didn't matter, they'd already ruined it for their kids.

Moral of the story, the education mafia is more effective than the real mafia.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (oZfic)

248 Every teacher I know is a pot-smoking, mushroom-sucking hippie.
Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (0j3R9)

HEY, I aint sucked one FKN Mushyrooooom.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (9TTOe)

249 The purpose of public schools is to provide lifetime employment for people no one else would hire who will, in exchange, vote democrat.



Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (p4U6S)

250 Didn't Mr. Pink say he was going to start trolling the other day due to the low quality of our regular trolls?

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (zxrQh)

251 "Every teacher I know is a pot-smoking, mushroom-sucking hippie.
" So?

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (AK1Ip)

252 Lots of demands involving dicks around here. Beginning to wonder about you fellas. Next EoJ will be singing show tunes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (GEICT)

253 236 NCJ,

You're a CPO iirc so you coordinate the di*k eating...heh j/k....

So you ready to cut that deal?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (bx23n)

254 One educational issue that you seldom see dealt with in discussions about teachers' unions is the way classroom positions are filled.

Rather than the classroom position going to the teacher most qualified, the seniority of the various teachers has to be taken into account. Different districts have different policies depending on the way their contracts are written. The consequence is that if there is, for instance, a kindergarten position open, and a teacher whose experience is teaching 5th grade, that 5th grade teacher, because of seniority, can get the position, even if he/she has no idea what kindergarten teachers do. And a kindergarten teacher who has less seniority won't get the job that he/she is better qualified for.

I knew a guy who was an elementary counselor who also had the certification to teach in an elementary classroom. Teaching in an elementary classroom can involve teaching math, reading, English, science, and social studies. This guy had spent a months doing this type of teaching during his student teaching in college. That was it. A few months.

So his district did away with their elementary counselors. He bumped into a third grade classroom, even though he openly said that he hated the idea of it because of the preparation, paper grading, and so on. He put in his time for that school year while looking for another job for the following year. His students were blessed with spending one year in the classroom of a man whose goal was to look for something that he actually wanted to do.

This also goes on in middle schools and high schools. I don't even want to think about how many teaching positions in Michigan are filled according to seniority rather than qualification, or the best interests of the students.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (SVfeX)

255
Wow, these ladies are really excited about the smooth, close shave they just got with their Gillette Mach 3 Turbo razors! Their faces never looked better! Five o'clock shadows won'tmake an appearancetil 5 a.m., that's just how good those razors are!

Posted by: runningrn at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (WGmy2)

256 "Moral of the story, the education mafia is more effective than the real mafia." I agree to a point.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:53 PM (AK1Ip)

257 >>for the record, i went to college across the street from there but i'm not going to eat a dick

Put a pickle on it and tell him it's a Chicago Dog.
He'll eat it.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:53 PM (0j3R9)

258 Fire every damn one of them.

That would be my response. The state is full of teachers looking for work and subs hoping for full time. It would take you about 1 week to find enough applicants to replace them all. You want to take time off to strike? Take the rest of your life. And take your gold plated retirement with you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:53 PM (r4wIV)

259 253 what deal?

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:53 PM (Shrag)

260 "I don't even want to think about how many teaching positions in Michigan are filled according to seniority rather than qualification" Also true in NY.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (AK1Ip)

261 Wow,they put three huge FUGLY's right up front.

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (6o4Fb)

262 A lot of people today said ram should pull a reagan. That left quite an impression on a lot of folks cause it was mentioned a lot.

But he's a dem and they need the teacher's help to win and the votes so they'll probably get a huge raise and more benefits and join like minded folks and vote for BO....

like minded folks are anyone whose jobs depends on the administration getting a second term and all those on public assistance of any kind.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (oZfic)

263 We are all stupid.

We all need to be members of Democrat Approved Unions so we can get 22% raises yearly.

Of course, not all unions are equal to others. The unions at my workplace were forced to take pay cuts, so they are obviously not Democrat Approved Unions.

Democrat Approved Union Membership for All!
Membership Dues for None!
Down with Business!
Slavery is Freedom!

Posted by: shibumi at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (z63Tr)

264 What the fuck are they so happy about in that picture? They look like they just got free cars from Oprah. If they really cared about the children then you'd think they'd be showing a little restarint and remorse. This picture pretty much sums up where their interests lie.

Posted by: Uncle Milty at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (8J5Ck)

265 There are good teachers, my sister was one of them bless her liberal little heart, but the Unions suck. Bad teachers are protected and the younger ones coming up can't get a job because the old ones hang in there forever.They burn out but want that paycheck. There should be incentives for teachers who do well and removal for those who don't...

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (W2Z3C)

266 Unions are just legalized mafia - *especially* the way our labor laws are written.

You can have strong labor laws or you can have unions - if you have both, you get things like $100k/yr teachers in functionally State-mandated schools who turn your children illiterate clods and then scream at you in public because they're not getting a 25-percent raise in a depression.

Tax money, bitch. Shut it all down. Private sector.

Some red-faced bureaucrat was trying to impress on me that some parents would not bother to educate their children. I said, "would it be more than the 40 percent functionally illiterate people your system produces?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 05:54 PM (bxiXv)

267 400,000 children are out of school in chicago

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 05:55 PM (AK1Ip)

268
257 Put a pickle on it and tell him it's a Chicago Dog.
i lol'ed
and yeah...this line is officially stolen

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:55 PM (Shrag)

269 Gee, it's almost as if a government-run, Federally influenced monopoly doesn't respond to poor results and cannot be changed from within ...

I wonder if there is some unknown mechanism out there, something that would provide corrective action in response to needs and desires of the consumers?

It would have to be massive, something on the order of a free market...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 10, 2012 05:55 PM (NRwWP)

270 What are they even doing in that picture? Kinda looks like they're getting ready to bow towards Mecca.

Posted by: Adam at September 10, 2012 05:55 PM (/YJYi)

271 181 I think Mitt should take a little risk here and stick his beak in.

“President Obama has chosen his side in this fight, sending his vice
president last year to assure the nation’s largest teachers union that
‘you should have no doubt about my affection for you and the president’s
commitment to you.’ I choose to side with the parents and students
depending on public schools to give them the skills to succeed, and my
plan for education reform will do exactly that.”

http://bit.ly/PXoH9u


Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (YjDyJ)

272 Can I have a double order of fries with that?

Posted by: A Chicago Teacher at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (QgAFR)

273 After 20 years in factories and on the corporate hampster wheel

I'm guessing you didn't do so well in biology class either. But there's a part-time job at the River Oaks Sears Auto Center in lovely Calumet City that's yours for the asking!

Just don't drive your nice car. Because it'll get stolen.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (VMcoS)

274 Is our children learning?

Posted by: George W. Bush at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (MZ6SI)

275 I love the argument that teacher's unions are made up of teachers, and hence must care primarily about children. They might say that but the proof is in the pudding: what they do defines what they believe and care about. And they care about the teachers, not the kids.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (r4wIV)

276 Just a tangent here. This "said no person ever" trend must stop, and it must stop now.

Said nobody, ever.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (SY2Kh)

277 400,000 children are out of school in chicago



In a city with a far worse homicide rate than Kabul. What could go wrong?

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (a4CUi)

278 They want more money? Fine.

But during the summer months they should be sent out to graze in overgrown city lots.

Posted by: Nukie at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (mWijP)

279 Wow, these ladies are really excited about the smooth, close shave they just got with their Gillette Mach 3 Turbo razors!

I'm willing to bet that anything they might shave with has a primer bulb and says Husqvarna on its side.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (vbh31)

280 >>he/she has no idea what kindergarten teachers do

1 - Read the sentence, thenshow the picture.
2 - Not ALL pastes are edible.
3 - Nap Time comes after lunch.
What else do you need to know?

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (0j3R9)

281 50% graduation rate in their unionized schools? Why that's only a 100% better rate than Obama's presidency. I say give 'em a raise.

Posted by: Chicago Voter Not Necessarily Paying Taxes at September 10, 2012 05:58 PM (eHIJJ)

282 259 NCJ,

The deal we talked about a couple of weeks back where you back Mitt Romney to let my wife get her retirement and I won't send Guliani to make a rico case against the while city.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 05:58 PM (bx23n)

283
There is a distinct lack of African-American teachers in that photo of striking
Chicago teacher union member hacks. If I was a lawyer I'd be all over that there shiite. ( For the children... not to have a John Edwards style bank account... for the children. )

Posted by: The Guy That Falls For Almost Anything at September 10, 2012 05:58 PM (qLeRe)

284 I could read going into kindergarten and was thusly "rewarded" by the teacher lending me one of those ridiculously outdated "Dick and Jane" books to take home.
On arrival, my mother looked at it, laughed and shook her head.
This same teacher shooed me out of the non-kindergaten section of the school library, and it struck me even then: What kind of adult, let alone a teacher, would discourage a kid from reading?

So this whole "dumbing down" thing has been in my mind most of my life. And I've found the blame points left in most cases.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at September 10, 2012 05:58 PM (mZ8Y2)

285 Someone ought to tell those teachers that "just because they gave you a red t shirt, it doesn't mean you have to squeeze yourself into it like a sausage"....

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 05:58 PM (oZfic)

286 I mean really - a Chicago teacher's union doing this? Now??

They see "now" as an opportune time to do it. The dems don't want this so they'll be more inclined to settle. It's all about utterly pure, selfish greed and no thought as to the welfare of even their strongest allies. Bite the hand that feeds. Always.

Posted by: Dang at September 10, 2012 05:58 PM (R18D0)

287 Just a tangent here. This "said no person ever" trend must stop, and it must stop now.
This is just a replacement of placing 'Not' right after your statement.

Posted by: polynikes at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (m2CN7)

288
282 fool
of course i'm backing romney
i like my money

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (Shrag)

289 Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (YjDyJ)

Bringing the knowledge and the cuteness.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (0j3R9)

290 How about if we raise their taxes and then pay them more out of tha ... oh wait ... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I'll get back to ya. Where's Countchocula when you need him?

Posted by: Honey Badger the Dense Rethuglican Nazi Bastard at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (GvYeG)

291 No, it was never about the money. I quit a six figure job to become a math Teacher.

Which merely proves you're an idiot.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (p4U6S)

292 Thank God the lazy Romney campaign isn't doing a daily Chicago Teachers Union "Outrage of the Day" news release! I'd hate the voters to pay attention, and force me to push my oldest friends and allies under the bus.

Posted by: President for Life Obama at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (CofEF)

293 280
>>he/she has no idea what kindergarten teachers do



1 - Read the sentence, thenshow the picture.

2 - Not ALL pastes are edible.

3 - Nap Time comes after lunch.

What else do you need to know?

Not true ,my sister was a Kindergarten teacher. When she first started that is what it was like. Now Kindergarten is like first grade. The poor kids are expected to read and write.It's all about the tests, and more and more Kindergarteners are getting held back..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (W2Z3C)

294 Wait, how do sub 500 SAT scores have anything to do with the "war on women"? I did a hell of a lot better than that, thank you very much.

If you can't squeak out a 500, you're either very dull or you were taught by teachers just like these fine specimens. I mean really, gifted 7th graders do better.

Posted by: Lauren at September 10, 2012 06:00 PM (wsGWu)

295 "Interesting how they're still opening the schools so the chilluns can still get their free meals. "

Well, don't think for a second that the teacher's union won't simply let this lack of solidarity from the lunchlady's union go without some sort of retribution!

Posted by: reason at September 10, 2012 06:00 PM (V40IZ)

296 Iisn‘t this AOS?

No one has offered to “hit“ them?

Do I have to fly all the way home to take care of business?

Posted by: EpatPatriot at September 10, 2012 06:00 PM (WVqlY)

297 No one has offered to “hit“ them?

You can have 'em. I think we'll all chip in to buy you a barf-bag.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at September 10, 2012 06:01 PM (8y9MW)

298 I know teachers who had perfect SAT's and degrees from Havard. They are not all low performing.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:01 PM (AK1Ip)

299 I think it is great that they are striking. Let these cud chewing bottom feeders have all the exposure they want and more. They are a perfect symbol of the progressive liberal mindset.

Hell, I don't even care if Chicago gives in to their demands. I moved from that corruptocracy of a state 17 years ago and I will enjoy watching it swirl down the toilet bowl.

My sympathies, however, to all the IL morons still entrapped there.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 10, 2012 06:01 PM (ccXZP)

300
296 No one has offered to “hit“ them

take another look at the picture

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 06:01 PM (Shrag)

301 So this whole "dumbing down" thing has been in my mind most of my life. And I've found the blame points left in most cases.

As a kid I figured out pretty quickly I could pay attention to about half of what was going on and put the minimal effort out and get a solid B in every class, so that's what I did. I drew and wrote and thought about stories and imagined things in class and aced papers and tests. It ruined me for college, I was totally unprepared. Its too hard work to challenge brighter students, so the brighter students just gear down and match the low level of education.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 06:01 PM (r4wIV)

302 274 Is our children learning?
Posted by: George W. Bush at September 10, 2012 05:56 PM (MZ6SI)


Who, by the way, reads more books in a week than Obama can name.

So suck a dick, then eat it, then puke it up and eat it again.*

*in keeping with the theme

Posted by: Welshorne Skroat III at September 10, 2012 06:02 PM (MRWjR)

303 269
Gee, it's almost as if a government-run, Federally influenced monopoly
doesn't respond to poor results and cannot be changed from within ...

I
wonder if there is some unknown mechanism out there, something that
would provide corrective action in response to needs and desires of the
consumers?

It would have to be massive, something on the order of a free market...


Dude, I'm right here.

Posted by: FedEx at September 10, 2012 06:02 PM (6TB1Z)

304 "296 Iisn‘t this AOS?

No one has offered to “hit“ them?

Do I have to fly all the way home to take care of business?"


In my defense, I did toss out the obligatory "Blazing Saddles" quote.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 06:02 PM (zxrQh)

305 Posted by: Nukie at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (mWijP)

That shit is funny!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 06:02 PM (2b4yb)

306 280 >>he/she has no idea what kindergarten teachers do

1 - Read the sentence, thenshow the picture.
2 - Not ALL pastes are edible.
3 - Nap Time comes after lunch.
What else do you need to know?
Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (0j3R9)



Please actually know something about a subject before you speak about it isn't sound advice for just teachers.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 06:02 PM (GEICT)

307 Chicago teachers seem to like red shirts. They should wear blue for democrats

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:03 PM (AK1Ip)

308 307
Chicago teachers seem to like red shirts. They should wear blue for democrats

Red for communist

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 06:03 PM (W2Z3C)

309 276 Just a tangent here. This "said no person ever" trend must stop, and it must stop now.

Said nobody, ever.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 10, 2012 05:57 PM (SY2Kh)

You son of a bitch!

Posted by: Dave S. at September 10, 2012 06:03 PM (d4o2E)

310 I did toss out the obligatory "Blazing Saddles" quote.



Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at September 10, 2012 06:02 PM
------------------------
"Teacher only pawn in game of life."

Posted by: TTF at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (ay6+/)

311 I have to admit I was surprised with the photo of all the Chicago Teacher Union Thugs/Members/

When I was young, most teachers were women. Plus ça change and all that.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (T+lH2)

312 Bless your heart, US. As a defender of this mess, we really can't expect you to understand the concept of "average".

Posted by: Lauren at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (wsGWu)

313
Republicans should probably flee Chicago these days. Although, this is spreading all over USA.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (AK1Ip)

314 No they should be wearing a hammer and sickle on their red shirts.

Posted by: All Good Communists Everywhere at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (/YJYi)

315 my mom went to Catholic school. They had split sessions there were so many kids. The teachers were not highly paid.

Then the unions took over the Catholic Schools too and the tuition if very high and the parents have to fight the districts for bus service and the chance for their kids to be on district sports teams and if you have a special ed kid, those services which they don't' want to give to private school kids but their parents are paying huge property tax and tuition.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (oZfic)

316 Is that another photo from SlutWalk? /shudder

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 10, 2012 06:04 PM (oX7vY)

317 Red for communist
They are not communist..

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (AK1Ip)

318 Rhambo will handle this beautifully for me. He will cave at exactly the right time. After all, 1.5% of everything the teachers get ends up going back to the Democrat party so it's sort of like the Democrat party is on strike for more taxpayer handouts here than individual teachers. The majority of delegates who nominated me are members of a teachers or other public employee union. Even Rham gets more money from PE unions, and especially from the teachers, than from any other source.

This whole strike is a farce, designed to distract voters from my general ineptitude. Go Rham!

Posted by: President for Life Obama at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (74T7W)

319 I kind of like giving the taxpayers....you know, the schlubs that have to pay those pampered teachers final say on their pay, and benefits. But.....it's probably mean, or racist, or classist, or something-ist to suggest that only those people that pay the bills have a voice in such matters.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (L7hol)

320 No, it was never about the money. I quit a six figure job to become a math Teacher.

Which merely proves you're an idiot.
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 05:59 PM (p4U6S)


It is the tip of my Maslow's Hierarchy of needs. If more people like us jumped in the system and started swinging we could change it. Otherwise, we are left with ignorant children. Could be your children.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (9TTOe)

321 Red shirts means they're all expendable.

Posted by: Capt. Kirk at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (QKKT0)

322 Is that a picture of striking Chicago educators or a bunch of plaintiffs in a "Weight Watchers" class-action lawsuit?

Posted by: Eisenhorn at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (CrJzY)

323 317
Red for communist
They are not communist..

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (AK1Ip)

Be gone sock..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 06:05 PM (W2Z3C)

324 I hope thay my son becomes a teacher. Good profession

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (AK1Ip)

325 Posted by: nerdygirl at September 10, 2012 05:52 PM (SVfeX)

Just so you know, the teaching strategies for K-6 are the same. Yes the curriculum changes but the methods a not. As to high school, in California you need to either have a degree in the field you wish to teach or be certified for that field. You just can't bump someone just because. You have to be qualified to teach that field. Oh, I don't know about where you are but I spent 6 months doing my student teaching (non paid of course) while carrying a full class load.

I would also like to clear up a few more misconceptions. I don't do drugs and I DO lean right. I am not in the mainstream but I am far from alone in this regard.
Second, there is no tenure, at least in California. Tenure is a University privilege. The only thing I have is the union protection.
As a FYI, I am not a big fan of unions.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (xMq47)

326 As long as they aren't getting a dime of federal tax dollars I don't care. That is a true statement isn't it?!? Please oh please I hope they aren't getting any of my tax money through DOE somehow.
I say let them flush themselves down the toilet! Anybody ever see Surviving the Game? I think it would be cool if someday we could have like an "Escape from Chicago" hunting safari. By this time Chicago will look pretty much like The Walking Dead. Sothey helicopter you in and drop you off with personal food rations and asortment of weaponry.

Posted by: Andrew at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (HS3dy)

327 One thing I'll tell ya'. If that photo is representative of the 'teachers' in Chicago it explains a lot about why I haven't heard of any teacher / student sexual antics going on there.

Whew. Perish the thought.

Posted by: LGoPs at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (4x8W0)

328 Weeze teechars needz mo money to helps edumacate yo chirrun.

Posted by: Striking Teacher, and I don't mean pretty at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (BVkEs)

329
>>Now Kindergarten is like first grade. The poor kids are expected to read and write.It's all about the tests, and more and more Kindergarteners are getting held back..

Raise the standards and then have to hold more kids back...because they important thing is that the kids feel bad about themselves.

Ick.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (SUKHu)

330 "Red shirts means they're all expendable." You talk like Hitler.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (AK1Ip)

331 Chigaco School District spends $12,643 per student and has a graduation rate at just above 50%.

For a classroom of 20 students per teacher (Actual ratio is 18.96:1), this comes out to $252,860 per class of 20. If you give a teacher $100,00 a year (and just $100,000 a year), you still have over $150,000 to spend on a class.

The only other major expenditure is for the classroom itself. Even spending $5000 in rent or rent equivalent a month for twelve months leaves you with $60,000 per class or $3000 per student.

A bus pass for a month in Chicago costs $86. If we ramp it up to $100 to cover special service, and use a 10 month system, that is only $1000 per student per year.

This leaves $2000. You can get food from those diet plan places for

Bottom line: The schools are run badly, and the students are being taught a destructive and uninformative curriculum.

That is what we are dealing with now and will likely deal with in the future.

This will not end well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (XvHmy)

332 They are not communist..


====


I agree. They are clearly too stupid to understand any totalitarian socio-economic system theory.

They are actually just parasites.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (a4CUi)

333 400,000 unsupervised children running around a city where an average 24 hours includes more than a dozen homicides! Progress! Forward!

Posted by: UrbanStudiesSquared at September 10, 2012 06:06 PM (/YJYi)

334 Red shirts means they're all expendable.
Posted by: Capt. Kirk


Dah.

Posted by: Joseph Vissarionovich at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (NRwWP)

335 Where're all da' fat women at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (ay6+/)

336 Once again my view that anytime someone says "it's for the children" it's anything but.


I haven't had a hint of a thought of a possibility of a raise in over two years and I am just grateful I still have a job. Listening to people who are the public's employees bitch about not getting a 22% raise makes alex something something.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (Gk3SS)

337
Kindergarten teachers should not be paid the same as math and science teachers.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (AK1Ip)

338 Meet the fat greedy cows who edumacate your children.

Posted by: Cicero at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (QKKT0)

339 I wonder if it has occurred to dem congress critters that they don't actually want obastard to win. He will hang them out to dry. Again.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (PHb2k)

340 So what're the odds that crime on the streets of Chicago is going to skyrocket (even more than usual I mean) in light of this strike? First because there will be so many unsupervised "yutes" on the streets, and secondly because the cops are going to have to keep watch over the union strike hags.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (CA2NO)

341 288 NCJ,

Fool? My other nickname is harlekwin. Fact of the matter is I don't understand why several of the chicago retirees vote for choom king.

You stay safe.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (bx23n)

342 Chicago Teachers Leave Hundreds of Thousands of Kids Without An Education

Was this not already the case?

Posted by: t-bird at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (FcR7P)

343 I retired from the public school system because of crap like this. For every stellar teacher there are 3 or for mediocre ones, 2 horrible ones, and 1 that should never be within 100 yards of a child.

The trouble is, the union system sees all these teachers as equals, and demands that their pay be equal, their benefits be identical, and that they move up through the system with no accountability or any consequences for failure. Being good at your job has absolutely nothing to do with it.

All you have to do to move up the payscale in public education is keep breathing.


Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:07 PM (P6QsQ)

344
315 i call bullshit
my daughter, wife and i all went/go to catholic schools and the teachers are not unionized
they are all private

now go eat a dick

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (Shrag)

345 Yes, Kindergarten now teaches reading, writing,and even some basic arithmetic towards the end of the year.

It is far more than simply letting kids learn social interaction these days.

First Grade is now considered the most challenging grade a child will face as a student, in terms of the sheer "drinking from a firehose" level of information they have to take in over the course of that year. Phonics, reading, writing are expected to gel, as well as basic arithmetic, including deconstructing word problems.

We discovered my daughter's dyslexia in the first grade. It took that realization as a parent to open my eyes to just how reading-intensive first grade really has become.

Posted by: reason at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (RQDhf)

346 How do people feel about tenure?

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (AK1Ip)

347 The teachers here have a racket. They tutor for cash only after class. The district got wind of this and said you couldn't tutor kids in your own class so now they send you to someone who teaches another class. It's all done privately.

High school teacher tutors make in excess of a hundred bucks an hour, in cash, tax free.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (oZfic)

348 VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches)

I couldn't see that signal, it must have been on my blind side.

Posted by: Captain Nelson at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (r4wIV)

349 BTW - the strike has nothing to do with pay or benefits. It has everything to do with who is boss in Chicago. This is a street fight for dominance.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (P6QsQ)

350 "We discovered my daughter's dyslexia in the first grade" Sorry to hear about her disability.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (AK1Ip)

351 How do people feel about tenure?
Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (AK1Ip)

Bout the same as trolls.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (9TTOe)

352
The unions should take all the 1% money and redstribute it to the teachers who work so hard in this country that our world ranking regarding education has been dropping for decades.

79% of Chicago 8th graders are not proficient in reading! Do you know what this means!? Progress! Forward!

Posted by: Urban Studies In African American Ebonics On Coolio Albums at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (/YJYi)

353
>>Second, there is no tenure, at least in California.

Excuse me?

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (SUKHu)

354 344
315 i call bullshit
my daughter, wife and i all went/go to catholic schools and the teachers are not unionized
they are all private

now go eat a dick
Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (Shrag)

On Long Island, they are unionized.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 06:09 PM (oZfic)

355 Finally! CHEERLEADERS and no pointy elbows!!!

Posted by: Barry S at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (n/nCi)

356 How do people feel about tenure?

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (AK1Ip)


Tenured teachers should all be lined up against a wall and shot.
How do you feel about them?

Posted by: A. Hitler at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (QKKT0)

357 "High school teacher tutors make in excess of a hundred bucks an hour, in cash, tax free." I know a math teacher in Florida who makes six figures tutoring. He is in with the special ed dept.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (AK1Ip)

358 330 US,

And your side sounds like Stalin.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (bx23n)

359 Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 06:08 PM (Shrag)

Did you miss the faint aroma of cat piss?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (2b4yb)

360 343
I retired from the public school system because of crap like this. For
every stellar teacher there are 3 or for mediocre ones, 2 horrible ones,
and 1 that should never be within 100 yards of a child.

As I said my sister was a teacher for 30 years, and even though she's a screaming ass liberal she was excellent.I had the pleasure to work at a Private Catholic Girls HS.Day and night. And no they weren't all rich. Over half received tuition assistance.

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (W2Z3C)

361 >>Listening to people who are the public's employees bitch about not getting a 22% raise makes alex something something.

Go crazy?

Posted by: Marge Simpson at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (0j3R9)

362 If more people like us jumped in the system and started swinging we
could change it. Otherwise, we are left with ignorant children. Could be
your children.


Here's the problem. I could teach science in my sleep. I have a PhD and 35+ years experience in the lab. But I wouldn't be hired, because I'm unwilling to waste even a year of my life on BS "education" courses. Change that, and I could do wonders. But of course, that's not the goal of the teacher's union. It's precisely to keep people like ME out of the "profession" so that barely educated, and pliable, mediocrities can be hired to maintain the status quo.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 06:10 PM (6TB1Z)

363 Goodbye morons. Heading out to tutor

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:11 PM (AK1Ip)

364 Day and night

should have said day and night difference..

Posted by: the pink not panicking about one poll formerly known as the hobbit Donna at September 10, 2012 06:11 PM (W2Z3C)

365 1) Evacuate the public schools.
2) Burn them to the ground.
3) Bulldoze the rubble flat.
4) Sow the ground with salt.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 06:11 PM (bxiXv)

366 When I left the public schools, I took my children with me. The only reason I let them go to public school in the first place is that my office was situated next to their classrooms and I could hear their teachers through the walls, and could stay on top of the crapola.

We put them in Christian school where the teachers work for half the pay, none of the benefits, and gave them three times the education. Easily.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:12 PM (P6QsQ)

367 Goodbye morons. Heading out to tutor

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:11 PM (AK1Ip)


Please, don't leave.

Posted by: Cicero at September 10, 2012 06:12 PM (QKKT0)

368 You got your Mein Kampf in my Communist Manifesto! Well YOU got YOUR Communist Manifesto on my Mein Kampf!

Posted by: Reese's Totalitarian Cups at September 10, 2012 06:12 PM (a4CUi)

369 I haven't had a hint of a thought of a possibility of a raise in over two years and I am just grateful I still have a job. Listening to people who are the public's employees bitch about not getting a 22% raise makes alex something something.


*big swig then passes the Val U Rite*

Posted by: BCochran1981 at September 10, 2012 06:12 PM (GEICT)

370 This "said no person ever" trend must stop, and it must stop now. It has become a telltale sign of a person with a grossly overinflated view of their own wittiness, and more often than not they deserve a punch in their teeth for the point they are trying to make when using it.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 10, 2012 05:51 PM (/tk/V)


While you're at it, give that fucking Seth Meyers a junk-punch. He probably invented #SaidNoPersonEver, anyway.

Posted by: jwpaine at September 10, 2012 06:12 PM (FUozQ)

371
359 Did you miss the faint aroma of cat piss?
not really
plus i have a 21lb furball with claws literally right next to the laptop staring at me
he's either hungry or looking for weaknesses to kill me later

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 06:12 PM (Shrag)

372 "I have a PhD and 35+ years experience in the lab." You don't need that amount of education to teach high school. And you could make 10 times that much in private industry or get a university job

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:13 PM (AK1Ip)

373 Urban Studies has the same voice of a troll that was very active here a couple of months back. Can't recall the name.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:14 PM (P6QsQ)

374 353 >>Second, there is no tenure, at least in California. Excuse me?

Tenure exists are the college level, not below.
What is get is UNION PROTECTION after two years which people equate with tenure, which it is not. I had the same protections when I was in AFL/CIO

Protection, but not tenure.When I became a teacher the union was VERY keen on pointing that fact out.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 06:14 PM (xMq47)

375 Big difference between knowing and teaching, its a whole different set of skills. I had a couple college profs who knew a lot but were just awful at passing it on; they should have stuck to the lab and the books, but they had to teach too and were terrible at it. A good teacher is a gem, but its a special sort of skills, especially on some subjects that tend to be inherently dull.

Like an idiot I took a western history class at night. I never actually fell asleep in the class but I spent a lot of time in that twilight state where you're one blink from nodding off. Eventually I just stopped going to the class, I wasn't learning anything anyway.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 06:14 PM (r4wIV)

376 365 1) Evacuate the public schools.
2) Burn them to the ground.
3) Bulldoze the rubble flat.
4) Sow the ground with salt.

Amen! Preach it brother.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (p4U6S)

377 I am new to the blog and not coming back.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (AK1Ip)

378 An error was made in our 9/10/12 article on the Chicago Teacher's Strike. The photo caption should have read, "Teachers react to the news that liposuction will now be covered by their health plan.". We regret the error, and hope this thundering herd of wildebeests take advantage of yet another taxpayer funded perk.

Posted by: The Associated Press at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (VMcoS)

379 "We put them in Christian school where the teachers work for half the pay, none of the benefits, and gave them three times the education. Easily."

BINGO.

Posted by: reason at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (RQDhf)

380
373 Can't recall the name.
all trolls are average joe who sucks cocks by choice....did you forget?

btw, how about them packers?
*****slinks away giggling*****

Posted by: navycopjoe (Da Bears Win!!! get used to it h8rs) at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (Shrag)

381 Many college teachers can't actually teach.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (AK1Ip)

382 373 Urban Studies has the same voice of a troll that was very active here a couple of months back. Can't recall the name.
Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:14 PM (P6QsQ)


Drooling Idiot Shit-Stirrer #41?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 06:16 PM (bxiXv)

383 Power to the Communist party!

Posted by: President for Life Obama at September 10, 2012 06:16 PM (B5y+v)

384 "Second, there is no tenure, at least in California. Tenure is a University privilege."

I have a family member teaching in California. There most certainly is tenure. Take a look at the Los Angeles School District, and what it takes to get rid of a terrible teacher there.

Posted by: LOL at September 10, 2012 06:17 PM (QgAFR)

385 I am new to the blog and not coming back.

Posted by: UrbanStudies at September 10, 2012 06:15 PM (AK1Ip)

----------------------
Sure you are.

Of course you're not.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:17 PM (P6QsQ)

386 I don't think that public sector employees or the people that like to call themselves "servants" and make it sound like they are martyrs...have any idea what it is like out there in the real world.

The federal ones have gotten three pay raises and they changed the criteria for forgiving student loan debt. The state level ones are getting raises also...

They were the dumb ones, the ones who went to work in the jobs no one wanted cause they couldn't' get a private sector job. Now they think they are entitled and aren't even nice to the people who have lost their jobs or half their income in cuts.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 06:18 PM (oZfic)

387 Merovign -



I think it might have been #43

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:18 PM (P6QsQ)

388 navycopjoe --




do not make me hunt you down and smother you in your sleep.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:19 PM (P6QsQ)

389 384 "Second, there is no tenure, at least in California. Tenure is a University privilege." I have a family member teaching in California. There most certainly is tenure. Take a look at the Los Angeles School District, and what it takes to get rid of a terrible teacher there.

I am a teacher in California. I know its hard to get rid of some of the dead weight and I dont like that but those are union protections.

Like I said, I dont like unions.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 06:19 PM (xMq47)

390 Since the Chicago teachers want a pay raise on the backs of the taxpayers, and since they are public employees, my suggestion would be for them to put the question to the people of Illinois on the November ballot.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:21 PM (P6QsQ)

391 Apparently the only prerequisite for being a Chicago public school teacher is to look like the Numa Numa guy.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 10, 2012 06:21 PM (CIndg)

392 Here's the problem. I could teach science in my sleep.

Teaching and doing is very different. Don't assume because you have knowledge you can share it. You would be disappointed. I taught Aircraft fundamentals in the Navy, Fiber Optic termination and repair for a defense contractor, Welding to Millwright and Pipe fitter apprentices, and Skydiving. You can know a subject but not be able to teach, you can teach but FK it up by not knowing the subject. You need both. Teaching done correctly is hard. We can make jokes and poke fun but I've done a lot of stuff in my life. Teaching is one of the most difficult. No shit. Pay the good ones, fire the bad ones.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 06:22 PM (9TTOe)

393 Otherwise, we are left with ignorant children. Could be your children.

The only public school I ever got near was a small trade school in Maryland. My children and grandchildren are all private schools - from pre K to university.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 06:22 PM (p4U6S)

394 >>I am new to the blog and not coming back.

Still. Hit the Tip Jar on the way out.
Ace needs the money for Lubriderm Valu-Rite.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2012 06:22 PM (0j3R9)

395 The only public school I ever got near was a small trade school in Maryland. My children and grandchildren are all private schools - from pre K to university.
Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 06:22 PM (p4U6S)

So are mine.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Wonders what Dagny thinks at September 10, 2012 06:23 PM (9TTOe)

396 I think it might have been #43

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:18 PM (P6QsQ)


#43 has a tic, sort of a Tourettes thing.

I think it's #41, unless #43 is on some pretty strong anti-psychotics now.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 10, 2012 06:23 PM (bxiXv)

397 I have known many noble, hard working, world changing teachers. By in large though they have been flaming turd balls. Now I work in academia in higher education and I can tell you these are the most self-centered, self-important, people that refuse their poop stinks than any other group of professionals that I know of, and this includes politicians.

Posted by: Mekan at September 10, 2012 06:24 PM (T/L2Z)

398 Finally, it looks like the Bears' NFL play 60 program needs to be expanded.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN (mentioned in dispatches) at September 10, 2012 06:24 PM (p4U6S)

399 "I am a teacher in California. I know its hard to get rid of some of the dead weight and I dont like that but those are union protections."

I know the California Teachers Association doesn't like the word "tenure" - but put it this way, California state law mandates that after a two-year probationary period, teachers are effectively unfireable.

You can call that unfireable status "banana", I suppose, but people who aren't part of the teacher's union would call that "tenure".

Posted by: LOL at September 10, 2012 06:24 PM (QgAFR)

400 377 US,

be sure to tell Ax "fuck you" for us....

this ain't gonna play like your fucking idiots think with 89,000,000 distressed or unemployed workers fuckstick

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 06:25 PM (LRFds)

401 367 Cicero,

there's always new chewtoys bud...

Posted by: sven10077 at September 10, 2012 06:26 PM (LRFds)

402 Teaching is one of the most difficult. No shit. Pay the good ones, fire the bad ones.

I don't think we disagree all that much.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 06:26 PM (6TB1Z)

403 Now I work in academia in higher education and I can tell you these are
the most self-centered, self-important, people that refuse their poop
stinks than any other group of professionals that I know of

-----------


Daughter has noticed the same thing. She is in her second year of teaching nursing. She's used to being an ICU charge nurse, where they actually do stuff rather than have 8 meetings about it.

Posted by: mama winger in paul ryan's district at September 10, 2012 06:29 PM (P6QsQ)

404 Los Angeles School District, and what it takes to get rid of a terrible teacher there.
Posted by: LOL at September 10, 2012 06:17 PM (QgAFR)

A proud victim of LAUSD fun stuff.


So, screw these teachers. What makes them so special? I took physics from one of the gym teachers and geometry from a French teacher. I failed one class because I never showed up and I made up the credits at a night school where I taught myself out of the text book (a science class).

And I always laugh when people ask me what makes me qualified to teach various subjects. At least I'll never strike on my students.

I cannot wait until the rest of America wakes up and stops letting these "only the state can teach your kids and everyone has to have the exact same education" people hold their children hostage for 13 - 15 years of their lives.

Posted by: elizabethe at September 10, 2012 06:29 PM (9MyQd)

405 I wonder if Chris Matthews is dog-whistling "Chicago".

Posted by: Craig Poe at September 10, 2012 06:30 PM (BVkEs)

406 399 "I am a teacher in California. I know its hard to get rid of some of the dead weight and I dont like that but those are union protections." I know the California Teachers Association doesn't like the word "tenure" - but put it this way, California state law mandates that after a two-year probationary period, teachers are effectively unfireable. You can call that unfireable status "banana", I suppose, but people who aren't part of the teacher's union would call that "tenure".
Yes, you are right to a point. You really have to screw up to get fired. I wish there were ways to get rid of the incompetent.
But then again when I was in UFCWyou really had to screw the pooch to get fired as well.
I view it more of a union thing but I could be wrong.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 06:31 PM (xMq47)

407 Posted by: pep at September 10, 2012 06:26 PM (6TB1Z)

Unless they are smokin' hot...then just make them principals.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 10, 2012 06:31 PM (2b4yb)

408 You can call that unfireable status "banana", I suppose, but people who aren't part of the teacher's union would call that "tenure".

=====


Attorneys, cops, judges, contract agents and everyone else in the country who depends on clear and proper english disagree. Tenure is very different from union protection, chief. Lay off the man. He's right.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 06:33 PM (a4CUi)

409 I'm thinking I need to respond to him the next time he posts one of those, "Not sure I can trust any site that represents that they are one million when they are actually a quarter of that."



Tell him he should hook in with the Million Man March. I think they got about 150,000 dudes who can help him reach for the cause.

Posted by: entropy at September 10, 2012 06:33 PM (YUttk)

410 Unspoken here is how bad the problem with multiplying administrators is in schools. I had one principal in all my schools; high school with 1400 kids had a vice principal. Now they have like six at the high schools. All of those guys get big time pay, and they have a staff. Its outrageous, and that's where a lot of the pay goes.

When they cut spending in schools, its never those guys that get the axe, either. Its the new teachers, the books, the art supplies. Its the stuff that is the nuts and bolts of education, not the machine.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 06:34 PM (r4wIV)

411 Teaching and doing are very different. Don't assume because you have knowledge you can share it. You would be disappointed.

Sorry, OSP, but that's essentially a load of shit. On top of that, most of the coursework for elementary and secondary school hasn't changed in over a hundred years - some much longer. The constant idiocy of new methods to teach concepts that people learned perfectly well before is just busywork and deception to keep teaching closed off.

I taught for years. Mostly at the university level, the bulk at the undergrad level, some grad. Some secondary level tutoring (mostly for friends' kids). For math and science, the most important way to learn is to do problems and see solutions - over and over and over. There's no way around this hard work. Secondarily, there is a need for the student to not feel intimidated. That basically covers it. And the amount of preparation needed for any of these classes (which are the same subject matter year after year after year - at least they should be) is minimal.

If someone doesn't understand math then that person CANNOT teach math to anyone other than those can learn on their own, anyway. If someone does know math then he'd have to be a total asshole to be a poor teacher. It's just not that difficult of a job to do properly. A little patience is necessary. Big whoop. Teaching is not some hugely difficult task for someone who knows the material. It just isn't.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 10, 2012 06:35 PM (X3lox)

412 "Attorneys, cops, judges, contract agents and everyone else in the country who depends on clear and proper english disagree. Tenure is very different from union protection, chief. Lay off the man. He's right."

LOL. I guess the notoriously right-wing Los Angeles Times editorial board is wrong as well.

May 16, 2012, the LAT ran an editorial:

"Wrong way to reform tenure"

which started:

"California's tenure protections for teachers go too far, and the Legislature has been unwilling to do anything about it.

So it's easy to understand why Students Matter, an organization backed by a reform-minded entrepreneur in the Bay Area, is hoping the courts will do what lawmakers haven't. On Monday, it filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles County Superior Court seeking to overturn the statutes that undergird the tenure system. Those laws require schools to decide after 18 months whether a teacher deserves tenure, to lay off teachers based almost solely on seniority and go through an arcane, ridiculously lengthy and slanted appeals process before a bad teacher can be fired."

Wherever did the Los Angeles Times get the wrong-headed idea that California teachers had tenure?

Posted by: LOL at September 10, 2012 06:37 PM (QgAFR)

413 Wherever did the Los Angeles Times get the wrong-headed idea that California teachers had tenure?

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When they started hiring journalists who can't use a dictionary.

How many times have you seen that rag print stories about "automatic weapons" when they are talking about perfectly legal firearms?

If you're looking to a left-wing paper for your english, you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 06:40 PM (a4CUi)

414 Pay the good ones, fire make the bad ones register as lifetime child abusers.

FIFY

Posted by: jwpaine at September 10, 2012 06:41 PM (FUozQ)

415 Looks from the picture that Carl Sandburg's 'City of the Big Shoulders' has morphed into 'Urban Area of the Ginormous Bingo Flaps'

I for one do not see this as an improvement.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at September 10, 2012 06:44 PM (VMcoS)

416 Seems like California teachers have tenure in everything but name. But maybe I'm not understanding this.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 06:45 PM (r4wIV)

417 #119 There is no real secret to "communicating with children." If you were taught that in Ed School, it is a load of BS.

My grandparents and my mother were teachers. I have a sister, a nephew and a niece who teach. I subbed for a couple of years when my children were in school, although my degree is in geology, not education.

What I know about teaching is that you need to be able to speak with emphasis and have interesting facts to illustrate the lesson, whether it is multiplication tables or English grammar. You should appear professional, not show up in sweat suits. You should address your students with respect, and demand respect from them.

Some schools have more of a burden (such as South Side Chicago). My recommendation for those schools is to hire retired Marines. Unless discipline is maintained, no child will learn.

Posted by: Miss Marple at September 10, 2012 06:50 PM (GoIUi)

418 On Monday, it filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles County Superior Court seeking to overturn the statutes that undergird the tenure system. Those laws require schools to decide after 18 months whether a teacher deserves tenure, to lay off teachers based almost solely on seniority and go through an arcane, ridiculously lengthy and slanted appeals process before a bad teacher can be fired."

i.e. standard union rules.
I will also tell you the only time the union steps up is when it seems that they shouldn't. They make the union I was in before, theUFCW look like they have big brass ***, which they don't.

Funny story, when I was in the credential program they had a union rep come out to talk to us. She was praising the union and when I started to question her about fairness etc. she kind of got mad at me and told me I didnt know anything about unions. After I told her I had spent 10 years in UFCW and they made the teachers union look feeble she ended the spiel. THe professor wasnt happy with me but I considered it a job well done
Just because the LAT misunderstands tenure doesn't change the fact it doesn't exist for us lowly K-12 teachers.

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 06:50 PM (xMq47)

419 Tenure is a legal status. Once achieved, a tenured faculty member is legally protected for life-time employment, just like some federal judges. Can't be fired except for cause.


Teachers outside of college in California do not get this protection. What they do get is full union protection, once they get past the probationary period. The protections they get are union pricks making sure it's too much of a hassle to fire incompetents, and granting seniority preferences during a RIF.

They are completely different legal mechanisms. On the surface, they may produce similar results, but they are not the same thing in any way.

Posted by: IdowhatIwant at September 10, 2012 06:53 PM (a4CUi)

420 419 Tenure is a legal status. Once achieved, a tenured faculty member is legally protected for life-time employment, just like some federal judges. Can't be fired except for cause. Teachers outside of college in California do not get this protection. What they do get is full union protection, once they get past the probationary period. The protections they get are union pricks making sure it's too much of a hassle to fire incompetents, and granting seniority preferences during a RIF. They are completely different legal mechanisms. On the surface, they may produce similar results, but they are not the same thing in any way.

BINGO!!

Posted by: Thorisin at September 10, 2012 06:54 PM (xMq47)

421 God Damn!

No Wonder so many Liberal Men are GAY!

Look at those Liberal Women in that picture!

If i had to look at that manchick face and run the risk of being bearhugged in those meat-laden arms and smell the rancid liberal sweat from her ample armpits every night as she snores like a moose, I would probably think hmm...maybe its time to try some dick too.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at September 10, 2012 07:18 PM (ovpNn)

422 You know I wouldn't hire a one of those heifers to sweep out around my tee pee. They'd probably get tired by the time they lifted one buffalo rug. I know. I had to let Elizabeth Warren go--those 1/32nd Cherokees just don't have a damn bit of stamina.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 10, 2012 07:52 PM (oe1aw)

423 #331 makes good point. But you're forgetting all the overhead, the massive upper-tier school bureucracy, the principals, the district leaders, etc. If teachers are making $75k you can bet they are high 6 figs at a minimum. Plus add benefits and retirement package to all this. Schools are not cheap. Athletic programs, all that equipment. Computers, library, etc. Food for at least 2 meals/day. Have you seen the prices of textbooks? My gosh. Elementary schools books can be hundreds/each. They'll buy a whole curriculum set. And of course, the author probably is in the school district as well, perhaps even a teacher. Educational software for the computer... stuff is expensive. They have to do special reporting and testing, more costs there. IT department, school security, maintenance and janitors. Counselors and shrinks and speech therapists.
Youare spot on they could do it cheaply, like a mom homeschooling her kids, but they aren't taking that sort of approach. This aint Little House on the Prarie no more.

Posted by: Andrew at September 10, 2012 08:06 PM (HS3dy)

424 It appears that Michael Moore has been cloned in Chicago from that hideous photo of those pitiful people. Are they angry because of the ugly stick they were beat with?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, unbanned , ready to get this done at September 10, 2012 08:15 PM (baL2B)

425 Pound for pound Chicago teaches are by far underpaid.

Posted by: Buffalobob at September 10, 2012 08:18 PM (MkzY8)

426 The Unemployment Rate is over 8%
Replace them

Posted by: Dan Kauffman at September 10, 2012 08:29 PM (5ZsaL)

427 That picture cries out for a Demotivation poster.


Get up on it, please and thank you!

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 10, 2012 08:32 PM (lZrVJ)

428 Something like "If you can read . . . thank God you weren't educated in Chicago" might be nice.


But I know there are more clever possibilities

Posted by: Jade Sea at September 10, 2012 08:35 PM (lZrVJ)

429 wow, this is a hot button issue. I said to a lib/dem obamabot with whom I work that this was to distract us from the election. Oddly enough, he didn't disagree with me. None the less....he wanted to continue the discussion. Rarely in an office setting do you get everyone in agreement, even the ones with teacher spouses or family members are horrified. So it's actually promoting camaraderie in the work setting...how odd.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 08:37 PM (oZfic)

430 "Its too hard work to challenge brighter students, so the brighter students just gear down and match the low level of education.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 10, 2012 06:01 PM (r4wIV)"This would be an unfortunate consequence of NCLB, where the emphasis is placed on the underperforming students, or lowest common denominator. If you measure the teachers' performance by their failure rate, guess where their efforts will be directed. Education today is bound and determined to send everybody to a four yr college, at the expense of many viable and needed alternative career training programs.

Posted by: venus velvet at September 10, 2012 08:38 PM (g94P/)

431 They probably could make a lot more in another field.
Like, a pasture.
Or perhaps they could go on tour, you know, hot dog eating world championships, or something.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at September 10, 2012 08:49 PM (25KoS)

432 The lib/dems like to do a lot of yapping. Now a kid has to go to preschool. There is no choice because kindergarten is now a "rigorous curriculum"....Apparently, back in the day, it was the place where you successfully adapted to school and learned to get yourself dressed and undressed and to be organized. Now they are reading and doing math. Parents are putting their kids on the list for the elite pre schools before they are born. If the kid doesn't make the right pre school the parents often move as "their life is ruined" according to them because the pre schools feed into the right schools all the way down the line culminating in an ivy league degree.

No wonder we are a mess. People both have to work, particularly now since one or both could loose their job. If you are lucky you have maternity or paternity leave but people often go right back fearing that if they take that time off the person who stepped into their spot will keep their job. Companies are only required to give you a similar job at a similar salary, they aren't required to save your job for you. If you are very wealthy you have an at home nanny. If not you have day care. Which leads to pre school which leads to elementary school which leads to high school and all those activities you need to do to get into college.

And then college and then graduate school. I'm exhausted writing it...can you imagine what it's like living it.

The other night we were talking about "kids today"....we did all this stuff and more and apparently, it's worse now. Kids and families never relax, are always on a schedule and have the added pressure of the economy and wondering how much money uncle sam is going to take that they don't have to give.

Posted by: cynder ella at September 10, 2012 08:49 PM (oZfic)

433 Here's an idea for a Mike and Molly episode (sit-com, Mike is a Chicago cop Molly is a Chicago teacher). Mike has to escort substitutes through a CTU picket line. Molly is not amused.

Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood at September 10, 2012 09:00 PM (2FcDw)

434 >>Here's an idea for a Mike and Molly episode (sit-com, Mike is a Chicago cop Molly is a Chicago teacher).

That's pretty good, but I like my plotline better: Mike and Molly are snuggled up in organically-raised-cotton flannel jammies, checking their Thrift Savings Plan pension online while sipping Robert Sinskey biodynamic pinot, when Zombie Gacy bursts into their boudoir, in full-clown, and shows them a new, funner game.

Posted by: General Zod at September 10, 2012 09:17 PM (2+bRt)

435 After seeing these teachers I think this is a win for the school children of Chicago....

They are getting smarter the longer they stay away from these "teachers".

Posted by: izoneguy at September 10, 2012 09:24 PM (oKH8p)

436 Who let the hogs out?
Who, who, who, who, who?

Posted by: OCBill at September 10, 2012 09:26 PM (YJvVE)

437 In related news, Drudge is reporting,
"Pig farmers quit as feed prices soar"

Posted by: OCBill at September 10, 2012 09:30 PM (YJvVE)

438 So the assholes shut down Clark Street in the loop this afternoon. Great way to make people sympathetic to your cause by closing down streets and hindering people from getting home from work.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 10, 2012 09:31 PM (mWVGT)

439 This is a win-win for the Dem.-Commies. With all those teachers out of school, can you say, "If it ain't DOUBLE, it ain't fistin', girlfriend!" With all those kids out of school, the Obama uber-strategist (the guy with the little girl on the Air Force One Manhattan fly-by, and the one behind the whiskey offerings at Sen. Ted Kennedy's grave) is saying, "Magical child-sex will win the election! Don't leave the child-sex up to the teachers alone! We need this, people!"

Posted by: Thorvald at September 10, 2012 09:38 PM (1V6Pv)

440 This is like having a failing aging professional sports team saying to win a few more games you just need to pay the players more.

Like that's ever worked? Uh, no...

To make a successful team from a failed team, you pretty much need a new team, new management, new discipline, new vision. Money and benefits is secondary to that goal. Go figure, the likely solution is going to end up being more of the same old same old, with more of the same old failing result...

Just saying, this ain't rocket science... But then this is Chicago. Isn't that where the Cubs play?

Posted by: drfredc at September 10, 2012 10:39 PM (24ojZ)

441 That could be a photo of opening day of the Special Olympics. In a sane world this would be the school lunch ladies, but instead these dopes are "educating" America's kids.

Ask them who was America's second president, what's 9 X 12, what year did World War I start, how do you spell Connecticut? I promise you, 99% of them have no fucking idea.

All they know is they're government union workers and, as such, are the landed gentry, living a life of privilege.

Posted by: Matt at September 10, 2012 10:48 PM (1ha9G)

442 they sure don't look like they have missed any meals.

Posted by: vivi at September 10, 2012 11:30 PM (OTPxW)

443 Yeah. Rahm and Jabba the Lewis are fighting over the last scraps at the table. This should be a reality show or something. Put it up on the Bread and Circuses Channel. And when the little urchins, I mean pupils, walk sheepishly up to the front of the room and say "Please sir, may I have some more", they just get washed away in a large wave of red ink.

Watch the "adults", little ones, and learn.

Posted by: dissent555 at September 10, 2012 11:52 PM (yR6A1)

444 Kids looked pretty happy today, out riding their bikes and swinging in their yards. Probably better for them than the multi-culti bullshit they'd have to put up with in school.

If there were more stay-at-home moms, teachers couldn't pull this shit. Everyone would just shrug and wait it out. It's only because teachers have become glorified babysitters for parents who can't afford to get fired from their jobs that anyone gives a shit.

But one thing that must have "teachers" crapping in their pants is technology. One of my kids is now taking a computerized math course. The teacher isn't really needed, since the kids are each working independently on the computer. My son, who was failing, is now averaging a B+ on his tests and quizzes.

Posted by: Gem at September 11, 2012 12:30 AM (zw+pb)

445 "Chicago Teachers Leave Hundreds of Thousands of Kids Without An Education"

So, they're doing what they were doing before the strike, then.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 11, 2012 12:45 AM (i0App)

446 Sup[sup]ex[/sup]

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at September 11, 2012 04:23 AM (X3lox)

447 for years now, i've been about ready to bust an artery
here in victimization central (san fran bay area) over this 'poor unappreciated
teacher' thing. they pull in 80k, get a three-month vacation, have benefits up
the ying-yang, and get a LIFETIME PENSION fer
chrissake!! nonetheless, every time we turn around we're told how they suffer
for the sake of the children. they tell sad stories of how they buy their own
chalk despite that fact that OVER 50 PERCENT OF THE ENTIRE STATE BUDGET (not to
mention property taxes, lottery funds, and on and on) goes to 'education' ...and yet the sheep
are guilted into passing more and more tax increases every year to 'save the
schools' from their imminent collapse (currently, governor brown wants to 'temporarily' increase the
already exorbitant sales tax)...and then the teacher's unions give the money
back to the democrats. auuuggghhh!!! what a racket!

oh...and is our kids learnin'?? well..they get to know
plenty about ditching school for political protests and how dems are wonderful
but republicans are evil. then they drop out and becoming the newest crop of
victims. a bargain at twice the price!

Posted by: el polacko at September 11, 2012 04:29 AM (vV3Ka)

448 If your kid isn't reading by first grade, they are already doomed for McJobs. We have an alphabet, it ain't that hard to read.

Posted by: joes at September 11, 2012 08:48 AM (iatVQ)

449 Are those teachers, or orcs with red t-shirts?
i'm leaning towards orcs.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at September 11, 2012 09:11 AM (izA2D)

450 I'm just having a dickens of a time giving a crap about a bunch of fat, butch, bull-dykes.

Posted by: Paul A'Barge at September 11, 2012 12:19 PM (KXcGC)

451 These jack-wagons turn down a 16% pay raise and I've been laid off for 5 month. I think my give a damn is broken on this one.

Posted by: wrg50 at September 11, 2012 01:56 PM (yLHQs)






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