BREAKING: McCaskill up 10 pts over Akin in Missouri Poll

Rasmussen will be releasing a poll this morning showing Akin costing us dearly in Missouri: McCaskill 48% Akin 38%.

Time to pack it up and stop screwing us, big guy.
Poll result here

More telling- most Democrats want him to stay, most Republicans want him out. Which party is he representing again?

Posted by: CAC at 09:43 AM



Comments

1 I wish the idiot would slink back into whatever closet he escaped from.

Posted by: Gmac at August 23, 2012 09:44 AM (IanLz)

2 Good, this moron needs a dose of reality.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 09:44 AM (QXlbZ)

3 Oh, and first...

Posted by: Gmac at August 23, 2012 09:44 AM (IanLz)

4
Aikins is a SCOAMF!

Posted by: Warthog at August 23, 2012 09:45 AM (WDySP)

5 Interesting that even with this, ClairBear can't break 50%

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 09:45 AM (QXlbZ)

6 Who gets put in his place when he goes?

Posted by: LtT26 at August 23, 2012 09:45 AM (zJ28s)

7 But Toby doesn't want to talk about it.

Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 09:45 AM (Gx3Fe)

8 Who could have predicted it?

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 09:46 AM (jm/9g)

9 If Akin does not win could that hurt the Bidin/Akin 2016 ticket? Or would it be better for us to have Todd free to stump Oiho?

Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 09:46 AM (QSHbO)

10 That fuck Akin was touting his fundraising as a reason to stay in. he hit 100K

"housands of people stepped up and helped us raise over $100,000! The message is clear... voters should pick candidates, not party bosses."

all Dems have to do is toss him enough money so he can over pay his family members running his campaign and he'll stay in. then quietly slink off into retirement the day after the election.

Posted by: bannor, voting Sweet Meteor of Death 2012 at August 23, 2012 09:46 AM (HEa5q)

11 Current odds of taking the Senate, even with Akin in the race: 95.1%

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 09:47 AM (QXlbZ)

12 #11
Those odds balloon even higher with Akin out and a competent R in.

Posted by: CAC at August 23, 2012 09:47 AM (HnvH5)

13 Not really, CAC. They only go to 98.2%.

Missouri only affects the probability of a Senate win by about 4%.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 09:49 AM (QXlbZ)

14 It seems he's gone into 'me against the world' mode, though, and with certain people (Tony Perkins, etc) egging him on, I'm not sure we're going to be rid of him.

It's so frustrating to lose several winnable seats in '10 because of lousy candidates, only to repeat the same mistake this time around. What were you thinking, MO?

Posted by: Chris at August 23, 2012 09:50 AM (gI9Bk)

15 There are so many R's and D's that think they are entitled to power. It is time to sacrifice for the country for the good of the nation Akin (hey that kinds rhymes - nation Akin)

Posted by: bobbymike at August 23, 2012 09:50 AM (wJSZn)

16 Dick Cheney needs to fly to Missouri and personally "talk" with Akin about his near future employment as an elected official.

And by "talk" I mean beat him senseless with his WarCock of Agony and Pain.

Posted by: EC at August 23, 2012 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)

17 From the Hotair greenroom, Todd Akin: The Dailykos pick

http://tinyurl.com/9ay32zu

Posted by: willy at August 23, 2012 09:50 AM (kUCQ4)

18 Rasmussen is one of the party bosses who are trying to end my providential march to the US Senate !

Posted by: Todd Akin, OBGYN at August 23, 2012 09:51 AM (WR5xI)

19 I wouldn't be surprised if Akin was a gift from bigot Huckabee to the Mormon / Catholic ticket. This is a hostage crisis, and I bet like every two-bit televangelist, Akin is holding out for a sizeable check to his favorite charity. The only calls he takes are from his brothers in arms or those who can screw with his plans owing to their political connections in the state like Bond and Blunt. What a nasty piece of work Todd Akin is.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 09:51 AM (bmHOj)

20 I am sure R&R can and will win anyway.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 09:51 AM (Wp4rQ)

21
But no women I raped ever got pregnant.

These jokes just write themselves. Be nice if the scrunt Akin went bankrupt.

Posted by: Rapin Akin at August 23, 2012 09:52 AM (wUFaM)

22 Sarah called this one right....boy, she's really stupid, isn't she?

Posted by: Havedash at August 23, 2012 09:52 AM (F0WNa)

23 The best way to get him out of this race is to ignore him. Let him continue pushing that rope uphill, while we write off MO the same way we wrote off CA.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 09:53 AM (QXlbZ)

24 Akin "tricked students into playing a stripping game": http://is.gd/NAs6Tm

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 09:53 AM (kycA/)

25 Keep in mind that Rasmussen works for the Republican Party bosses. I frankly do not believe this poll.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 09:53 AM (YdQQY)

26 If you want to talk to me one on one, bring cash, small denomination unmarked bills. That would be providential.

Posted by: Todd Akin, OBGYN at August 23, 2012 09:53 AM (WR5xI)

27 The depth of displeasure I have for this Missouri moron equals the depth of the Marianas Trench.

There aren't enough bad things and Biblical plagues that I wish could be thrown upon him.

Sweet Jesus, go... go!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 23, 2012 09:53 AM (kbOju)

28 This is good news for Barack and Maichele Obama......I am very happy today and the birds are chirpping for them too.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at August 23, 2012 09:54 AM (48wze)

29 and we are getting our first proof from Rasmussen that Akin has an impact on the national races as well...

the generic congressional close to +1 GOP from +4, and SCOAMF and Romney are neck and neck....

thanks Huck....

"Almighty, Almighty this is DealaMeal Razorback6 I need everything you got on Mitt's position over?"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 09:54 AM (LRFds)

30 if i were a cynical person*, i'd wonder who was behind getting this dirtbag to run in the first place, then set him up for failure and got him to double down on stupid when they did...

(*i'm not cynical, i'm experienced. %-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 23, 2012 09:54 AM (8MasJ)

31 The perfect poll, she can't break 50% and 38% would rather vote for a complete idiot then her. Not that she's not a complete idiot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 23, 2012 09:54 AM (CrOSO)

32 Nice that we are down to every other post (or so) being about Akin.

Posted by: Penfold at August 23, 2012 09:55 AM (1PeEC)

33 Just be glad we don't have a Presidential nominee who believes in magic underwear.

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 09:55 AM (kycA/)

34 Well, perhaps all the Akin Eeyores, the Kos Mobies, and the DNC concern trolls will all gravitate to this post and leave the rest alone.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 09:56 AM (YdQQY)

35 Be even gladder we don't have a VP nominee who believes he eats the body and drinks the blood of somebody who died almost 2000 years ago.

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 09:56 AM (kycA/)

36 33 Gerry,

no you have one that believes in magic economic mana through graft

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 09:57 AM (LRFds)

37 You say that like you think it's a bad thing
"Time to pack it up and stop screwing us, big guy"

Posted by: BarneyTheHappy at August 23, 2012 09:57 AM (QSHbO)

38 35 Gerry,

no you have one who thinks he's fucked 3 Presidents

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 09:57 AM (LRFds)

39 AFA and FRC!


Name 2 organizations I'm going to shun should they keep backing this idiot?

Posted by: Memories at August 23, 2012 09:57 AM (UKYQ/)

40 gerry

did you forget your sarc tag or are you of the cat piss mind set?

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 23, 2012 09:58 AM (Ho2rs)

41 When last I checked....

Joe Biden is also a Catholic.

Jeebus, these trolls are idiots.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 09:58 AM (B+qrE)

42 Gerry, you need to go put up some more atheist billboards in the middle of the bible belt.



Make sure you put a note at the bottom that say approved and paid for by the DNC.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 09:59 AM (YdQQY)

43 39 memories,

it'll be Ironic if the "God through Politics Duo gets us Communism

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 09:59 AM (LRFds)

44 Some of you are making me bang my head on my desk, seriously. Yes, unfortunately this matters, 4 percent is significant, and Indy women's votes and feelings about the R party are significant.

Oooookay, so I tried to do some small thing - I sent a very polite missive to the Akin campaign, hopefully he will see the light on this sooner rather than later. It truly is a shame and honestly, I think he believed the physical truth of what he said (and please, don't tell me he didn't say what he freaking well said, I'm not stupid!) - and I understand HOW he could have grown up believing it.

Unfortunately for him, the rest of us, and The Convenient Things We Wish Were So - it just isn't true. Honestly the willingness of an adult to believe it doesn't speak well of him. He has to deny the existence - or worse, deny the truth of the crimes committed against - women who were violently raped and consequently impregnated throughout human history.

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 09:59 AM (J6kXj)

45 The fabulous thing about Akin is that even if he wins what we're getting is a guy who flipped the bird to virtually everyone of note in the conservative movement AND to our future (we hope) President and Vice President.

So savor that for a moment.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 09:59 AM (5H6zj)

46 And don't worry, Gerry. Sometime you'll have your chance to explain your theology or lack thereof to someone who died 2000 years ago.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 10:00 AM (B+qrE)

47 I once had a CPA friend who said, "My job is to make 2 + 2 = anything you want." That's about what you get with most polls if you can't see the crosstabs.

At least with the PPP poll that showed Akin and McCaskill tied you could see the oversampling of Republicans. Why doesn't Rasmussen release crosstabs, so you can see if there's a finger on the scale or not? Not being snarky here, it's a real question - does anyone (CAC, Vic, Dave In FL) know why they don't? Or do they, and I somehow missed it?

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:00 AM (ZiYQG)

48 This is nonsense. When all the conservatives and evangelicals who stayed home in 2008 show up I'll win in a landslide.
And just wait for the polls done by the democratic party bossescome out. They'll show me way ahead.

Posted by: Dr. Akin FACOG at August 23, 2012 10:00 AM (Gx3Fe)

49 Gerry believes posting idiotic anti-christian screeds to a blog makes him smart.

You are not smart Gerry. You are tiresome.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 23, 2012 10:00 AM (UjSt7)

50 NEWS FLASH: Joe Lieberman believes that some sort of magical bread can fall from the sky.

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kycA/)

51 even if he wins

I will take ALL action on that proposition.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (B+qrE)

52 if i were a cynical person*, i'd wonder who was behind getting this dirtbag to run in the first place, then set him up for failure and got him to double down on stupid when they did...

I agree with you. Something stinks.

but then again, I wonder how "Republican" someone like, say, Huckster really is, kwim?

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (J6kXj)

53 Akin has to go ASAP. It's a distraction from the real problem driving us to the cliff of fiscal doom, and that problem is Boehner.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (SDkq3)

54 Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 09:56 AM (kycA/)


Oh you mean like Nancy Pelosi?

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (Wp4rQ)

55 not a NEWS FLASH: The Stupid Party acts stupidly.

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kycA/)

56 You can't ignore him. He ties in with this War On Women theme the Dems have been relentlessly pushing. They won't let up during the convention, either. The wookie will be on Letterman while Paul Ryan gives his speech. Washyourhair-Shultz and Plugs will be in Tampa. Obama will tour IA, VA and CO. The Dems added 9 women speakers to their lineup not including Sandra Fluke. Kathleen Turner was on MTP talking about how important women are to this election. Akin was a godsend to them just when Republicans were gaining.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (UOYbf)

57 Akin? Doesn't he play for the Mets?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:02 AM (05RcU)

58 The fabulous thing about Akin is that even if he wins what we're getting is a guy who flipped the bird to virtually everyone of note in the conservative movement AND to our future (we hope) President and Vice President.

Exactly, Y-Not. I am having trouble seeing his high morals here.

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 10:02 AM (J6kXj)

59 Is Mary from Vermont sarcastic or a lib?

Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 10:02 AM (Gx3Fe)

60 not a NEWS FLASH: Nancy Pelosi believes that Botox is one of the four major food groups

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:03 AM (kycA/)

61 Unleash your rage. Let it all out, - feel the burn!

Posted by: Fritz at August 23, 2012 10:03 AM (/ZZCn)

62 But look at the PPP poll! He is doing so well!

He doesn't need to step down due to the abortion gaffe. He needs to step down because he is an idiot.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 23, 2012 10:03 AM (hlUJY)

63 gerry...some of your loser dem friends believe that too.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 23, 2012 10:03 AM (Ho2rs)

64 52 SBS,

Um, "no" Barack Obama holds the entire US Military hostage every time Boner tries to rein him in champ....but don't worry you may get your wish and not have Boner in charge in a half year....

"Miss me yet?"

//Pelosi

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:04 AM (LRFds)

65 Gerry, did you run out of fingerpaints or something? You seem bored. Go look for the paste.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2012 10:04 AM (lTVJy)

66 I just finished a two-day teambuilding/annual meeting thingie. Lots of young women work with me and they are not terribly political, but your ordinary "Jon Stewart=news" types

They were excited about Romney/Ryan. Things were going well. I don't speak about politics but I listen. They were (and hopefully still are) ready to go over. It was, frankly, amazing.

Then this guy. THIS GUY. yeah, no big deal tho. We don't need PA or anything. We don't need women's votes.

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 10:05 AM (J6kXj)

67 Breaking O/T: Our Old Lady of the Ecco Homo Restoration has a facebook page. She does Beef Jerky Portraits. Mitt, Barry and Michelle are pictured:


http://tinyurl.com/bv93d6w

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 10:05 AM (QjSgY)

68 56 -

You know, the strident, angry feminist voice just doesn't play well in 2012. They can pack and stack their convention with as many latterday Abzugs and Steinems as they please. That is not the issue of the moment. And they in no way present acceptable eye candy to the American female.

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:05 AM (jm/9g)

69 biggest non-news flash of this thread so far: Stupid Partiers still can't figure out why they are Stupid Partiers

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:06 AM (kycA/)

70 @66 but, but, it's the economy!

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 23, 2012 10:06 AM (UjSt7)

71 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:06 AM (8y9MW)

72 15
There are so many R's and D's that think they are entitled to power


That's the answer! We'll have Dick Lugar persuade him to drop out.

Posted by: pep at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (YXmuI)

73 I am deeply concerned for Akin, and how this issue affects my strong, and deeply held, Christian moral values.

Posted by: Mobi Juan Bendovi at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (dFN3f)

74 is gerry a sock....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (Ho2rs)

75 "The Stupid Party acts stupidly."

I would not go there if I were you; Clinton giving keynote address ? seriously ? Akin be gone by Labor day, Clinton who splattered his semen all over an intern in the oval office, is still speaking for the Dem Party. See what I mean ?

Posted by: runner at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (WR5xI)

76 Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 10:02 AM (Gx3Fe)

I'd go with sockastic.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (QjSgY)

77 donk party 2012:

Church of Saint Bella of the Latterday Abzugs

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (jm/9g)

78 Here. Lemme combine the threads. Maybe we can send Vince to smack Akin with a folding chair.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:07 AM (VtjlW)

79 Fox zombie video are killing my phone again, wtf this has been going on for months

Posted by: Jean at August 23, 2012 10:08 AM (5HAgy)

80 Be even gladder we don't have a VP nominee who believes he eats the body
and drinks the blood of somebody who died almost 2000 years ago.


Because JFK was such a horrible, horrible president, right?

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 10:08 AM (1sjSo)

81 I see Akin is counting on the "evangelicals" to save him and, taking a cue from the Democrats. he also is making abortion the most important issue.

Apparently ordinary people in Missouri aren't buying it if this poll is correct.

Well at least Republicans. I hear Democrats are trying to throw him a financial lifeline to stay in.

So now it's all about Akin, stealth Democrat - is it?

Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:08 AM (GGCsk)

82 My mother is an older fairly low information voter but dead set against Obama. I was talking to her last night about making sure my parents are registered and driving them to a poling station for the election and she asked: Why did Romney say that about abortion?

All she saw was a headline about forcible rape and magic biology and a picture of Romney next to it. I explained that it wasn't Romney but some jackwagon from Missouri.

This dude Akin is costing us.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 10:08 AM (SzAZ7)

83 >>>69 biggest non-news flash of this thread so far: Stupid Partiers still can't figure out why they are Stupid Partiers

Projection is a terrible thing. I hope you get that worked out for yourself.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:09 AM (tBduy)

84 Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:06 AM (kycA/)


Have you said anything intelligent here this week? No?

How about a more realistic standard....have you said anything intelligent here this year?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 23, 2012 10:09 AM (sbV1u)

85 78
YES!

I'll bring the D batteries.

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:09 AM (jm/9g)

86 @75

I was just in a mini-rant about how the Dems proudly promote an impeached, disbarred, perjuring adulterer as their moral compass and political lodestar. What a bunch of shitheads.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 23, 2012 10:09 AM (HethX)

87 78
Here. Lemme combine the threads. Maybe we can send Vince to smack Akin with a folding chair.


I'm gonna go to Missori. What? And I'm gonna find Todd Akin. What? And I'm gonna hit him with a chair. What? And I'm gonna hit him with another. What? And another. What? And another. What? And another. What?

etc.

Posted by: Stone Cold Steve Austin at August 23, 2012 10:09 AM (e0xKF)

88 I was kinda hoping for a bad poll or two to roll in this week on Akin. This ought to up the pressure on him.

Yes, I think he's getting some Dem donations right now to tempt him to stay in.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 10:10 AM (ccXZP)

89 As a woman myself, I'd just like to know....what exactly is this war on women supposed to be about? All I can really determine is that the war consists of the D's wanting the entire country to pay for any and all abortions and birth control and the R's are saying, no, that's not right... and btw, abortion should be a state issue. Where exactly is this war?

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2012 10:10 AM (lTVJy)

90 Shall we review the record of atheistic governance?

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 10:10 AM (Uon6A)

91 I see Akin is counting on the "evangelicals" to save him

Just a scratch, it'll buff right out.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (1sjSo)

92 The Democrat Sith Lords put Akin there and are keeping him there.

He is a patsy at best, an enemy agent at worst.

The Sith knew they had to do this because the economy is pissing blood and too many people want Obama out.

Since Akin won't budge we must revert to containment of the damage. Repudiate him, mock him, do a write-in, whatever it takes to weaken the Democrat effort to use Akin against us.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (Wp4rQ)

93 Nowhere near MO but this crap is all the Lefties are talking about. Loudly and to all who will listen, or don't. It has become a means to lambaste ALL Republican Senatorial candidates, as an indication of the level of intelligence required to be a Republican candidate, seeing as how we've won him the Primary and won't get rid of him, etc. IOW HELLZYES it has an effect. Akin must go, if only to silence the shrieking of the wymmenz out here.

Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (3ZtZW)

94 Or do they, and I somehow missed it?

I think (though I'm not certain) that it's part of the paid service- you get the results sooner and you get to see some more of the internals.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (8y9MW)

95 A write in campaign isn't out of the question. If someone with high name recognition in MO would be willing (Kitt Bond, John Ashcroft), there's no reason they can't trounce both Akin and McAskill.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (tBduy)

96 http://tinyurl.com/d7ctulp


cue Beijing Billy lying his ass off about Obama's "plans"....

goddamnit I hate the media....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (LRFds)

97 Is the Missouri Republican Party legally obligated to allow Akin to run as its nominee or can the Party step in and replace him?I understand that these things aren't typically done, perhaps for fear of burning bridges, but sometimes you've gone a bridge too far.

As an extreme example, suppose the primary winner came out after the fact and denied the Holocaust. Would the Party be required to keep the candidate or could they cut him loose?

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 23, 2012 10:12 AM (JxMoP)

98 We were making some progress in the culture war, and then Akin represents the worst stereotypes about evangelicals. He is claiming their support is keeping him in the race, and the money he is getting from Dems sustains him. Every woman in the country knows his name and associates him with the GOP and the pro-life movement.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:12 AM (5kRy2)

99 Shall we review the record of atheistic governance?

I say we start with Modern North Korea and move backwards.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:12 AM (8y9MW)

100 Where exactly is this war? Posted by: Lady in Black at August 23, 2012 10:10 AM (lTVJy)



When you tell a lib they can't have everything they want....it's a war.

Or a tantrum....I forget which.


Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 23, 2012 10:12 AM (sbV1u)

101 Shall we review the record of atheistic governance?

Mass graves, purges, gulags, and lot and lots of fail. Mmmmmm....tasty

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 10:12 AM (1sjSo)

102 95
A write in campaign isn't out of the question. If someone with high
name recognition in MO would be willing (Kitt Bond, John Ashcroft),
there's no reason they can't trounce both Akin and McAskill.

Bond is probably an easy choice, depending on the write-in rules.

A really short and easy to remember name makes it much easier to win as a write-in. So does massive name recognition, which helped out that Murky skank from Alaska against Joe Miller.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 23, 2012 10:13 AM (e0xKF)

103 I say we start with Modern North Korea and move backwards.

The Kim dynasty is not founded on atheism.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 23, 2012 10:13 AM (B+qrE)

104 It's ok. I've been told repeatedly here it doesn't matter.

I'll just sit back and let President Perry deal with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:13 AM (TMB3S)

105 Just a question.

Will Democrats appoint a monitor to ensure Bill Clinton stays away from Sandra Fluke?

Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (GGCsk)

106 50 NEWS FLASH: Joe Lieberman believes that some sort of magical bread can fall from the sky.
Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kycA/)


Hey Gerry. Why don't you be a real brave man and go stand outside a mosque and ridicule islam. I'm sure you have equal disdain for islam as you do Christianity.

Posted by: Havedash at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (F0WNa)

107 Its a tantrum. They start convulsing and screaming. Plus crying and trying to do combat theater with puppets. And defecating on police cars.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (kDokH)

108 Kit Bond would be great, but he'd have to come out of retirement and accept. Then the party would have to push him like they did Murkowski. It's possible.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (5kRy2)

109 Yeah, the guys an idiot, but the polls would not have shifted so quickly if the Republicans would have just said they disagree with the comments and then moved on. All this piling on always costs us.

Posted by: k at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (uBVzH)

110 Dick Cheney needs to fly to Missouri and personally "talk" with Akin about his near future employment as an elected official.

Posted by: EC at August 23, 2012 09:50 AM (GQ8sn)

-------
"Todd, hey, this is Dick Cheney. Congrats on your win. Listen, I was thinking maybe a little bird-hunting photo-op would goose your campaignsome. Coupla drinks, a little shootin'...if you don't drink, I'll drink for ya. Let's do this real soon."

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (QjSgY)

111 Appropriate comic strip, H/T Tammy Bruce:

Speaking of someone forcing himself on you against your will... http://t.co/NhYzOlvY

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (5H6zj)

112 This is very similar to the DE race...


"The new Rasmussen poll of the Delaware Senate race, conducted yesterday in the aftermath of conservative activist Christine O’Donnell’s upset win in the Republican primary, shows Democratic New Castle County Executive Chris Coons with a double-digit lead.

The numbers: Coons 53%, O’Donnell 42%. The survey of likely voters has a ±4.5% margin of error. In the previous Rasmussen survey from two weeks ago, Coons led O’Donnell by 46%-36% — and Rep. Mike Castle, the moderate Republican who O’Donnell defeated on Tuesday, led Coons by 49%-37%. The TPM Poll Average gives Coons a lead of 52.2%-38.8%."

Posted by: Serious Cat, lousy at sock puppeting at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (zrpqj)

113 >>>A really short and easy to remember name makes it much easier to win as a write-in. So does massive name recognition, which helped out that Murky skank from Alaska against Joe Miller.

Exactly. It can't be any of the primary challenges due to MO's Sore Loser law, it has to be someone who hasn't run yet.

Bond and Ashcroft have name recognition in MO, Bond being the better choice since Ashcroft will have some Bush stank on him.

If Murckowskiey can win a fucking write in campaign based solely on a her temper tantrum, I don't see why we can't pull one off on principle and saving the fucking country.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (tBduy)

114 But is it using the newer, more accurate, R+9 model?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (2v+KF)

115 Really? Rape pregnancy and a wag the dog war on women is what this presidential campaign cycle is about? Anybody who makes this a plank should be pointed at and laughed at till they cry...F this shit. How about we in michigan kick stab the cow out and make up for it?

Posted by: Red Shirt at August 23, 2012 10:16 AM (FIDMq)

116 Here we goooo....

Posted by: dananjcon at August 23, 2012 10:16 AM (eavT+)

117 107 AP,

the problem is the donks are going to flat out lie their asses off using Operation Shiny Objects to court the retard vote.....

maybe *we* ought to riot and destroy W 57th street

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:16 AM (LRFds)

118
"Hey Gerry. Why don't you be a real brave man and go stand outside a mosque and ridicule islam. I'm sure you have equal disdain for islam as you do Christianity."


He'll never do it. Physical and moral cowardice go hand in hand. Same reason Libs will go ape-shit about "big companies" hurting the poor, but won't drive 2 miles to the nearest slum and say jack-shit to the drug dealers and other assorted dregs who actually DO damage the lives of the poor. Utter pussbags, every one of them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 23, 2012 10:16 AM (HethX)

119 Hey Gerry, your retarded brother,( the smart one), wants his computer back.

Posted by: My Ass Burns...stick it out the window and cool it off at August 23, 2012 10:16 AM (t2z5E)

120 this is not a so con vs fis con fight

it is in everyone's best interest that he go now

it does no good to pretend this isn't hurting us

the focus needs to be on the economy, jobs and debt

but we should not be afraid to defend ourselves on abortion

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:17 AM (Dnbau)

121 I want to go tot Vegas with McCaskill, she's the luckiest SOB in America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:17 AM (05RcU)

122 47 - Rasmussen releases crosstabs to subscribers. He is a for profit service.

However, his methodology is well known and respected. He conducts a monthly poll for party affiliation using a 15,000 person sample. He then weights his results based on that monthly sample. If he is giving R+2, that is because his monthly identification poll is showing R+2.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 10:17 AM (QXlbZ)

123 We need to move on as best we can from the Akin thing. Honestly, I don't think Akin will be allowed to drop out. The Democrat dominated MO court has to
approve Akin dropping out, don't they? Dems cheat, and there are a majority of Democrats on the
court. I watched the Torricelli hearing, where the judges polished up the silver platter they used to hand the Dem's their
Lautenberg ruling with their robes. The law in NJ was crystal clear, and the Dem judges
didn't give a tinker's damn. If the Dem MO Secretary of State files a
motion to oppose this -- and OF COURSE the Dems will make sure it gets
filed -- the judges will tell Akin he can't get off the ballot. Period.
They'll just make up some reason. Only GOP judges are persuadable, Dem judges vote a straight party line,
as Judge Roberts taught us a couple months ago.

Seriously, it's time to move on from Akin and donate to some other mighty fine GOP campaign.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at August 23, 2012 10:18 AM (8kq7+)

124 114
But is it using the newer, more accurate, R+9 model?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 23, 2012 10:15 AM (2v+KF)

Question regarding that...name the number of polls that had a greater than 4 R sampling? I wont bother with 9 as it has to be never

Posted by: Red Shirt at August 23, 2012 10:18 AM (FIDMq)

125 I think it's laughable Democrats have President McSplugestain leading their "war on women".

It's like making Roman Polanski your babysitter.

Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:18 AM (GGCsk)

126 If Teh SARAH were to move there today she could run third party and save us all
TEAM SWEATER PUPPIES
bonus if she banned the cardinals too

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 23, 2012 10:18 AM (3A7PP)

127 No one has ever lost an election after a legitimate gaffe. If it does happen, it is very rare. The electoral system, it has ways of shutting that kind of thing down.

Posted by: The Akin Theory at August 23, 2012 10:18 AM (V40IZ)

128 Normally, I'm not in favor of encouraging old men to stay in public office for all eternity (Bond, Ashcroft), but if Akin is perfectly happy to play Useful Idiot to the Democrats, I'll make an exception.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:18 AM (tBduy)

129 121 NGU,

this ain't luck this is an op....

Mike Huckabee needs his ass beaten, and his bloodied pus ridden inert form dropped unconscious in front of 1600 Pennsylvania avenue


Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:19 AM (LRFds)

130 an NBC poll found 0% support for Romney amongst Black voters. Oh yeah great poll. NBC, a little biased are we?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:19 AM (05RcU)

131 109 Yeah, the guys an idiot, but the polls would not have shifted so quickly if the Republicans would have just said they disagree with the comments and then moved on. All this piling on always costs us.
Posted by: k at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (uBVzH)

Thats not true. The MFM is beating this like a drum. Saying nothing never helped Bush. We had to distance ourselves from Akin. Abortion is wrong, but he is the wrong standard bearer. He is a dope

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:19 AM (Dnbau)

132 Sven, let them riot. Then we move in with the D-7s and treat them like St. Pancake with full public support.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:19 AM (kDokH)

133 >>>130 an NBC poll found 0% support for Romney amongst Black voters. Oh yeah great poll. NBC, a little biased are we?

Next week they'll have a poll saying Uncle Toms support Romney 100 percent.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (tBduy)

134 >>but we should not be afraid to defend ourselves on abortion

It's not about abortion. It was never about abortion.

It's about a dumb fuck who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and has now become the face of abortion.

Super.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (TMB3S)

135 "Sarah called this one right....boy, she's really stupid, isn't she?"

SHE IS TEH DUMBZ!
SHE JUST GOT LUCKY WITH HER GUESSES.
27 TIMES IN A ROW!
*fnargle snarf glarfng!*

Posted by: moonbat sarah haterz at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (V40IZ)

136 MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH

Posted by: Party Boss at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (pUOs2)

137 8.3% unemployment is the biggest artillery barrage against women.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (Wp4rQ)

138 @AllenG - Thanks for the reply. There's a first!

I'll freely admit, my general friendliness to all partisans doesn't extend far enough for me to pay Rasmussen. But if that data is out there for subscribers, you'd think someone would post it somewhere, right? (Insert easy shot at "liberal wants free lunch" here.) Especially on hot button polls like this. In any event, aren't you curious, when you see their numbers, to know the basis for why they're generally different?

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (ZiYQG)

139 130
an NBC poll found 0% support for Romney amongst Black voters. Oh yeah great poll. NBC, a little biased are we?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:19 AM (05RcU)

Dont forget..its whitey thats racist too

Posted by: MFM at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (FIDMq)

140 "If Teh SARAH were to move there today she could run third party and save us all TEAM SWEATER PUPPIES "

Palin / Hendricks 2012 - Earthquakes in Iran Like Never Before!

Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 10:21 AM (V40IZ)

141 @Dave In Fla - got it, thanks.

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:21 AM (ZiYQG)

142 “Chance of departure today… uh, eighty percent? seventy-five, eighty? ”

Posted by: Phil Connors Blair at August 23, 2012 10:21 AM (2v+KF)

143 +1,000 strength

+1,000,000 stamina

Posted by: Party Boss at August 23, 2012 10:22 AM (pUOs2)

144 Geeeee, I never saw that coming...

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 10:22 AM (W2Z3C)

145 Off topic but I see on Drudge that NBC and ABC are doing segments or shows on the Mormon church. I guess Obama is doing really poorly in his internal polls. I suspect in another couple of weeks we'll know more about every aspect of the Mormon church than we'll ever know about black liberation theology. I don't think we'll have to be listening for dog-whistles either, the coming bigotry will be straight up.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 10:22 AM (SzAZ7)

146 142 PCB,

zero....

we got played....

Huck you're dead in this party of this party splits.....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:23 AM (LRFds)

147 OT
---
From the 08/27/12 issue of 'Air Force Times'
Woman sexually assaults airman.
[link]

Posted by: RioBravo at August 23, 2012 10:23 AM (eEfYn)

148 >>>134It's not about abortion. It was never about abortion.
It's about a dumb fuck who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and has now become the face of abortion.
Super.

Exactly. The 'rape or incest' question isn't exactly a bolt out of the blue GOTCHA question. It's very common and serious question asked to pro-lifers.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:23 AM (tBduy)

149 CAC is just another party boss trying to get rid of a true conservative.

Posted by: Ben at August 23, 2012 10:23 AM (C2Y4l)

150 Akin: Proof that you can't fix stupid.

McCaskill: Proof that you can't fix socialism.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 10:23 AM (Hx5uv)

151 Doesn't Bill Clinton have a Masters in Gynecology or something similar?

Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:23 AM (GGCsk)

152 "an NBC poll found 0% support for Romney amongst Black voters. Oh yeah great poll. NBC, a little biased are we?"

*doomy attack-ad music*
Even Paul Ryan's black ex-girlfriend won't vote for Mitt Romney...
Is this the type of ticket we can expect to bring our newly post-racial America to the next level?

Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 10:24 AM (V40IZ)

153 Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:20 AM (ZiYQG)
___

Do you think there is a place in the donk party for conservatives such as Artur Davis?

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:24 AM (jm/9g)

154 Random thought / side question for CAC:

When figuring out 'how much Hispanic voters' like candidate X, do they weigh the responses by party? If not, why not?

Why is it that when we want to know what 'voters' think, we take a small (IMO) sample then weigh it. When we want to know what 'women/hispanics/etc' think, we take a small (IMO) sample and run with it.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 23, 2012 10:24 AM (X/+QT)

155 In Jersey they resurrection FRank Lautenberg from the dead a month before the election IIRC in order to save a completely clusterfarked campaign.

Why can't we do that with Kit Bond?

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:24 AM (Dnbau)

156 *rolls eyes*

The trolling is getting so out of hand here.

"The polls wouldn't have shifted"

Yeah, they have all shifted in Romney's and GOP candidate's direction. With the exception of MO.

Probability that the GOP retakes the Senate is currently, including this poll, 95.1%.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 10:25 AM (QXlbZ)

157 @88- "Yes, I think he's getting some Dem donations right now to tempt him to stay in."

At the risk of sounding somewhat cynical and jaded... well shoot, I don't care about that, never mind-

Doesn't RMoney have a couple boxcars full of caysh right now? Can he not just send someone to Missouri with a large bat and a blank check to get this jackhole to uh, see some sense (and cents) and GTFO of the race?


Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 23, 2012 10:25 AM (ksERZ)

158 Does Kit Bond want to be senator again?

Posted by: Janetoo at August 23, 2012 10:25 AM (FUW1H)

159 What thunderb said.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (5H6zj)

160 "Masters in Gynecology"

Honorary Doctorate from Northwestern.

Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (V40IZ)

161 But if that data is out there for subscribers, you'd think someone would post it somewhere, right?

Intellectual Property Law, do you speak it? I don't know that IP comes into play there, but I suspect it does. At the very least, the terms of service probably preclude you giving that information away for free, since that's part of how he makes his money.

As for curiosity? Not really. Ras has been proven over the years to be among the most accurate pollsters, and he makes his living by providing accurate polling. If he suddenly went in the crapper, it would hurt his credibility, and, thus, his business.

Also, people I trust, and who understand polls better than I do, have assured me that he's accurate and reliable. I trust them, so I trust him.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (8y9MW)

162 @158 - "Does Kit Bond want to be senator again?"

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Zombie Kit Carson at August 23, 2012 10:26 AM (ksERZ)

163 155
In Jersey they resurrection FRank Lautenberg from the dead a month
before the election IIRC in order to save a completely clusterfarked
campaign.

I've seen Lautenberg in person. I am pretty sure he's a zombie, which works for him I guess.

Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (GGCsk)

164 not a NEWS FLASH: The Stupid Party acts stupidly.


Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:01 AM (kycA/)

not a NEWS FLASH: Gerry's IP is democrats.orj

Posted by: National Inquirer at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (PcoXF)

165
@158 - "Does Kit Bond want to be senator again?"

Yoo hoo!

Posted by: Zombie Kitty Carlysle at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (ksERZ)

166 Even if he were to "leave" wouldn't he have to petition the Dem. run Court there ?

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (W2Z3C)

167 Repeat after me:

Akin is a sideshow. Containment is achieved.

Now go back inside and off that ledge. We need all hands on deck, and suicides will be shot for desertion.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (GBXon)

168 @158 - "Does Kit Bond want to be senator again?"

uh, vrrrooooooom?

Posted by: KIT 2000 at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (ksERZ)

169 The difference between the Republican Party and the Democrat Party is this: We shun and rebuke our stupid and extremist candidates. They put theirs at the top of the ticket in the number one and number two spots.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (P6QsQ)

170 Best idea I've heard is Akin drops out, but runs for re-election in his old seat, while the woman who is running for his seat runs for the Senate seat.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (5H6zj)

171 Posted by: Exile at August 23, 2012 10:27 AM (GGCsk)
___


The Lout showed up at the Ryan rally in West Chester PA the other day, to protest. I guess our own donk senator Bob Casey (the Lesser) couldn't be bothered on such a hot day. So they imported the old man from Joisey. A real wtf moment.

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (jm/9g)

172 Toricelli was under federal indictment about 6 weeks before the election.

Dems asked Ben Bradley to replace him but he said no. Then they went to Lautenberg, who had retired and begged him.

They replaced him on the ballot. NJ pubs sued, and lost. Lautenberg is still the senator


Where is our political jujitsu?

Somebody tell Kit Bond it is his duty to gain the MO seat, perhaps the Senate and the republic

Huckabee needs to stop playing guitar and have a real come to Jesus with this buffoon. Now

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (Dnbau)

173 "uh, vrrrooooooom?
Posted by: KIT 2000 at August 23, 2012 10:28 AM (ksERZ) "

Imposter!

Posted by: K.I.T.T. at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (V40IZ)

174 The website for Huckabee's favorite candidate is no longer accepting e-mails.

Posted by: Cowboy Bob at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (V9qC6)

175 What shall we talk about?

Posted by: Uber Creepy Nazi Guy at August 23, 2012 10:29 AM (Wp4rQ)

176 I don't think we'll have to be listening for dog-whistles either, the coming bigotry will be straight up.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 10:22 AM


Hard to believe that Brian Williams, who delivers at least one sloppy BJ to Bark Obama on NBC "news" every night, can go farther into the tank for his Messiah. But I'm positive he will, since he has Eeeeevil Mormonism to attack.

It is, of course, Wrong and Intolerant to report on the crimes committed in the name of Islam.

I have this increasingly forlorn hope that at least a few voters will one day look at Choom Boy's commercials (and those of his co-conspirators) and think "WTF?," but with so much non-stop cheerleading going on, I'm doubting it will happen.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (wZI4b)

177 Doesn't RMoney have a couple boxcars full of caysh right now? Can he not
just send someone to Missouri with a large bat and a blank check to get
this jackhole to uh, see some sense (and cents) and GTFO of the race?


No. Can you imagine the outrageous outrage over Romney paying Akin to get out of the race? We'd be told, nonstop, how Romney had "thwarted the will of the voters" and "meddled in a State race" with a "corrupt pay-off" of Akin.

Nope, Romney is doing the best think he can do: "The guy's an idiot. I don't agree with his statement. Next question."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (8y9MW)

178
Breaking O/T: Our Old Lady of the Ecco Homo Restoration has a facebook
page. She does Beef Jerky Portraits. Mitt, Barry and Michelle are
pictured:





http://tinyurl.com/bv93d6w

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Is that Mooch on the left?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (Hx5uv)

179 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmsYqWXAZgc

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (1sjSo)

180 168
@158 - "Does Kit Bond want to be senator again?"

Meow???

Posted by: Hello Kitty at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (wtvvX)

181 @Kallisto - I don't know, you mean, for guys who decide they want to switch parties after they lose a primary so they can get a convention speaking slot?

IIRC he was asking about running as a D in Virginia pretty recently, and when he got rebuffed, he started making overtures to R's. He might be an opportunistic politician, BIRM.

And I don't buy that there's not room for a black moderate in the party. D's went to the wall for Harold Ford in 2006's TN Senate race, and plenty of liberals didn't like him or agree with him all that much. But they weren't trying to excommunicate him or anything. Then again, Ford wasn't bashing D's from the podium of the RNC.

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (ZiYQG)

182 Huckabee needs to stop playing guitar and have a real come to Jesus with this buffoon. Now

Huckabee is not the solution. Huckabee is the problem.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (GBXon)

183 Akin is a plant. I have NEVER in my 45 years heard anyone say ANYTHING like that. I think the jack hole was paid off. The fact that he wont get out makes me even more convinced of it.

Posted by: lowfibass at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (BrqlK)

184 "In any event, aren't you curious, when you see their numbers, to know the basis for why they're generally different?"

Not really, because I know why. Partisan ID normalization. I know why Rasmussen normalizes and where he gets his factors from. What I don't know is why the Q poll uses a D+8, the Fox poll uses a D+11, and the Pew poll uses a D+19.

Providing crosstabs are nice, but they don't explain why they chose that normalization factor, when there are no electoral results that support it.

A few people have renormalized some of these polls (which is not something that results in perfect accuracy) and come up with a Romney lead of about 3 or 4 across the board. Pretty much in line with Rasmussen (and Gallup now).

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (QXlbZ)

185 167 Cavil,

He chewed up out lead on the congressional generic, he chewed up a 2point Romney lead in Ras....

Bill Clinton just let loose with a vacuous lie based hail mary on the economy....

The goddamned Media is going to donate over 2 billion dollars worth of ad time to Obama....

and all because the hypocrit "god squad" of GOP mouthbreathers are religious bigots who will not attack obama's "faith" but want a Jihad on mitt's....



Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (LRFds)

186 >>>Huckabee needs to stop playing guitar and have a real come to Jesus with this buffoon. Now

I honestly think Fuckabee's getting a kick out of all this. He hates Romney, hates the party, hates other religions and hates that he's a washout in talk radio.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (tBduy)

187 182 Cavil,

yup someone needs to break his guitar over his damn head

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (LRFds)

188 But... I'm on a mission from God?

Posted by: Akin at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (/YJYi)

189 My mother called and wants to know if I will work for Akin.
She is planning to attend his victory party.
She is 75 and also believes that pregnancy is thwarted by trauma.
I don't want to get into it with her.
I'll have to vote for him if he's still on the ballot, and I want a R in the Senate, but what a fricking idiot embarrassment he is.
😖

Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (Sptt8)

190 NEWS FLASH: Shirley Maclaine claims to be rape child of Akin and Cleopatra!

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (kycA/)

191 Even if he were to "leave" wouldn't he have to petition the Dem. run Court there ?

I think it's just some paperwork that has to be filed, and a Court Order issued. Technically the Court might reject it, but they'd be hard pressed to explain why. That is, if Akin chooses to drop out.

If the GOP tries to force him out (which would be bad), that's a different story, of course.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (8y9MW)

192 Well if Akin won't go then I would encourage him to switch Party to Dem. I'd even give him a pile of cash as a going-away present.

Posted by: Uterus Cannon at August 23, 2012 10:32 AM (3ZtZW)

193 Looking at TS Isaac data. It will finally reach Cat 1 strength one hour before landfall in the Dominican Republic. At 29Hr forecast it winds will reach 75mph, At 30Hr forecast Cat 1 Hurricane Isaac will make landfall somewhere near the town of Los Patos. It will travel across the island with center of circulation passing just south of Port au Prince at 36Hr forecast and winds will be around 70mph.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (kDokH)

194 Huckabee needs to stop playing guitar and have a real come to Jesus with this buffoon.

Huckabee is neither conservative or a republican based on past actions, he's just religious.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (1sjSo)

195 pink cracker -- Yes, he would have to get permission from the MO supreme court. I am happy for someone to correct me, but I thought it was 6 Dems - 3 GOP judges. The law is written that the request is supposed to be honored, but these are Democrats -- I have zero faith they will follow the law if they can save a Senate seat. I would bet cash money the court denies Akin the right to withdraw.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (8kq7+)

196 Lautenberg -- that's really weird, kallisto! how as the rally? I had a couple IRL friends who went - not terribly conservative/republican women, either. They said it was packed and he was great!

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (J6kXj)

197 131
109 Yeah, the guys an idiot, but the polls would not have shifted so
quickly if the Republicans would have just said they disagree with the
comments and then moved on. All this piling on always costs us.


Posted by: k at August 23, 2012 10:14 AM (uBVzH)



What?! RR came out immediately and said they disagreed with Akin. The MO GOP tried to get him to drop out immediately. Current and former senators from MO advised him to drop out. Jon Cornyn pulled Akin's funding as did Karl Rove....immediately.



They can't move on because the MFM won't let them move on.



Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (X6akg)

198 @185:

You off your meds?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (wtvvX)

199 Maybe Akin could arrange to be caught getting a rest stop BJ from a 17 yo boy. Then maybe the news would go quiet on him. That's what happens right?

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (SzAZ7)

200 What shall we talk about?


How about this, holy crap it's been 20 years since Ruby Ridge? I would have said, maybe, maybe 10.


Related, kids born in 1994 get to vote this year.


If you'll excuse me, I'm going to curl up in a little ball under my desk now.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (VtjlW)

201 "Can you imagine the outrageous outrage over Romney paying Akin to get out of the race?"

I can imagine the outrageous outrage if it became KNOWN that RMoney had done this.


Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (ksERZ)

202 "Rasmussen is one of the party bosses who are trying to end my providential march to the US Senate !"

And, that Sarah Palin is another one. She and her cohort Levin run the Republican Party; everybody knows that.

Posted by: Todd (I am all you need me to be) Akin at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (3xuEM)

203 >>>167 Repeat after me:
Akin is a sideshow. Containment is achieved.

I'll remember that when we're 1 vote in the Senator short to repeal Obamacare (or stop a filibuster)

The stakes could not be higher. This is not a distraction, it's a collapsing front that we need to remedy.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (tBduy)

204
Kit Bond is an old, old man too long retired to shift himself eight hours per day.
Plus, his blood alcohol content must be a constant .20%.
Sorry.

Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (Sptt8)

205 @Allen - IIRC, 2010 wasn't Ras's finest hour. I'm not assigning motive, I'm just saying they were off, and I never saw a serious dissection of exactly why, anywhere, and I read conservative blogs a lot. That's pretty impressive discipline to IP law on the internet (always a model for such a thing!) from a very wide cross-section of interested people, I'd think.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (ZiYQG)

206 "Where is our political jujitsu? "

It is largely weak. As responsible adults, we tend to expect one another to also be responsible adults. When they don't, well, that's when we start trying to figure out alternatives, but the clock is already running.

Dems, on the other hand, as back-stabbling children, expect one another to also be back-stabbing children, and thus make sure they've gotten four levels of Survivor-esque alliances and alternatives lined up for whenever the back-stabbing commences.

Put it another way - if Biden really did go unspinnably full-retard in a stump speech somewhere, do you think that there would be a big ordeal about trying to "convince" him to step aside? Fuck no. He'd be gone before the next sun rose. There are Mechanisms in Place. And he knows it, so he limits himself to only the unintentional stupidity.

Now, do you think that there is any sort of alternate contingency plan in place right now for Paul Ryan? Seriously, anything more than maybe a couple notes on a piece of paper somewhere?

Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 10:35 AM (V40IZ)

207 I guess hoping Akin's doing a lot of travelling in small planes during the campaign would be wrong, huh?

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 10:35 AM (Uon6A)

208 I can't believe that Yahoo is running this story:



Dave Krepcho,
director of the Second Harvest Food Bank, checks inventory at the food
bank warehouse in Orlando, Fla. In the past four years, food
distribution to 500 pantries, shelters, and other relief agencies in the
six-county area has jumped about 60 percent. In the last year alone,
that amounted to 36 million pounds of food. Krepcho estimates about 30
percent of those seeking help are first-timers. They're blue-collar and
white-collar, many middle class, even some upper middle class. They
include college-educated couples and professionals.




Things have gotten worse in the last four years? Let's run on this on pound Barry over the head for the shitty economy.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (1Jaio)

209 @158 - "Does Kit Bond want to be senator again?"
Meow???


Posted by: Hello Kitty at August 23, 2012 10:31 AM (wtvvX)

How can Hello Kitty meow? She has NO mouth.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (kDokH)

210 198 Tex Lovera,

Gee Huck who blocked Romney for McCain in '08 doesn't have a hatred of Mormons?

Akin who decides he's on a mission for God just happens to blow up the GOP right in time for "Eye on Mormonism"?

I am not on meds but you might want to take some...

BTW welcome to AoS glad you made it from wherever...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (LRFds)

211 Is that Mooch on the left?
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 10:30 AM (Hx5uv)

Well. it didn't exactly say so. I just interpreted it that way, since it was right next to Barry. My apologies if it was supposed to be Jesus next to Chicago Jesus next to Satan.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (QjSgY)

212 I hope this is a wake-up call to all the dimwits around here calling for doubling down on anti-abortion rhetoric taking front seat in the Presidential race.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (f9c2L)

213
# 127

No one has ever lost an election after a legitimate gaffe. If it does
happen, it is very rare. The electoral system, it has ways of shutting
that kind of thing down.


I just did a google news search for Todd Akin. 8,060,000 results. Then I did a search for Obama's 'OIHO' gaffe. 336 results. And that was using just the word 'OIHO' as a search parameter. Using '+obama +ohio +gaffe' got zero results. Using '+obama +oiho' also got zero results.

Democrats are not going to let this go...every time a dem finds him/her/itself in a room with a reporter, they're going to mention Akin, Romney, and the RNC. The guy is a distraction, and is hurting conservative chances in races outside of MO. He needs to man up, and drop out.


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (L7hol)

214 You stupid party stupids are so stupid you probably don't know there are 57 states, you stupid stupidheads!

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (aHR5E)

215 They should rename MSNBC: Abortion Central, All Day, All The Time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (05RcU)

216
Shit, Nickless, you want his wife in??!!

Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (Sptt8)

217 @Dave - "Partisan ID normalization."

I honestly don't know what that means in terms of numbers, and I'm curious. Care to spell it out? You know, for the benefit of the class?

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:37 AM (ZiYQG)

218 "I'll remember that when we're 1 vote in the Senator short to repeal Obamacare (or stop a filibuster)"

Current odds that we take the Senate, even with Akin in the race: 95.1%

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (QXlbZ)

219 >>>216
Shit, Nickless, you want his wife in??!!

Rumor has it, she's the one with all the pull and the current reason he's not dropping out.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (tBduy)

220
Kit Bond is an old, old man too long retired to shift himself eight hours per day.
Plus, his blood alcohol content must be a constant .20%.
Sorry.
Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (Sptt

Have you seen Lautenberg? He looks as tho he has been dead for at least 2 years. He looks like an extra in a vampire movie. He too had been retired.
We need a placeholder with name recognition stat!

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (Dnbau)

221 She's still under 50% after all of this. Anybody except Akin or Charles Manson could beat her.

Posted by: forest at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (7RBBe)

222 216

LOL.

Posted by: nickless at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (Uon6A)

223 NEWS FLASH: I just ate a booger.

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (aHR5E)

224 IIRC, 2010 wasn't Ras's finest hour.

Most accurate != totally accurate.

And I don't recall exact what Ras was predicting just before the butt-kickenning, but I don't remember anyone who actually got it right: some were way too optimistic on the side of Republicans, and some were way to optimistic on the side of the Democrats, but I don't think anybody got much closer (in absolute value) than Ras did, either.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM (8y9MW)

225 You know another rough age? 5 year olds. With Kindgergarten starting, and the defiant attitude. It can be a rough time for mothers. Now don't get me wrong, killing kindergartners isn't a pleasant thought. Nobody gets joy from that. But I support a mother's right to choose.

Posted by: Barack Obama - most interesting man in the world at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (/Mla1)

226 218 "I'll remember that when we're 1 vote in the Senator short to repeal Obamacare (or stop a filibuster)"
Current odds that we take the Senate, even with Akin in the race: 95.1%

Yes, I'll remember that poll, when we're one vote short.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (tBduy)

227 Not questioning ras, every dem I know sent me that poll the minute it emerged.

But beck is touting a gannett poll with mitt leading by 14 points. So it makes you wonder. If they have the press in their pocket how do you know they don't have the pollsters too?

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (oZfic)

228 Sometimes people just gotta put their hand on the burner before they'll believe its hot.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (1sjSo)

229 I'll remember that when we're 1 vote in the Senator short to repeal Obamacare (or stop a filibuster)

If we need that one vote, it's not where the MO seat is that I'm worried about, it's the squishes that honeycomb the 'sure seats'.

Folks are way too bipolar on this crap. We have plenty of opportunities with candidates that aren't blatant stealth Dems--enough to tilt the balance and then some. Don't buy the doom, that's what the Ds want you to do.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (GBXon)

230 Hannibal Lector vs Claire...

Who will bring the fava beans and Chianti?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:39 AM (kDokH)

231
212
I hope this is a wake-up call to all the dimwits around here calling for
doubling down on anti-abortion rhetoric taking front seat in the
Presidential race.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (f9c2L)



Well, if you're hoping for change in that regard, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
Such a fickle thing, hope.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (LMHSz)

232 213 SW,

The newsies will run this nonstop to get the muddled morons listening and then have Clennis lie about "well recovery is right around the corner and the whole thing was Bush's fault"....

F**k Huck

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (LRFds)

233 Fuck a duck.

The jobless rate just went up again. The CBO came out yesterday and said we are basically on the precipice of a depression. Entitlements are threatening to crush us ... and we are talking about abortion.

A fucking issue that will only be solved IF we win the presidency and get some conservative judges and IF someone brings a case that makes it to the SC. Which will never happen if WE DON'T WIN THE WHITE HOUSE.

How fucking simple is this? Its the fucking economy.

Period.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:40 AM (TMB3S)

234 Too many comments to respond directly to
He has to go. Evidence is piling up that he is costing the GOP not only in MO but nationally. Without Akin reporters aren't pestering R/R about abortion
Rasmussen is one of the most accurate pollsters there is. Saying he is a plant of the GOP and this a GOP designed poll to get him out is ridiculous. Saying the PPP poll that was R+9 was designed to keep him in was more accurate
The GOP needed to cut him off - they have completely denounced him and yet the media and Dems are using him to bash the GOP
The GOP needs run someone against him and McCaskill. The poll shows that McCaskill is still beatable with another candidate. Even if the GOP falls short in MO running another candidate it would helpisolate this issue to MO and prevent it from spreading (GOP can say hey look we wanted somebody else)
Idon't expect him to drop out. He thinks it was just one word in one sentence in one comment that was the problem, not the whole package. And if he doesn't get that McCaskill spent $1.5MM in ads helping him in the GOP primary to ensure he won he is naive
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Posted by: NoBama12 at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (ykY2u)

235 Who-eeee! With all these angry womyn speakers in Charlotte, we're going to be up to our goiters in poon!

Posted by: J-Nap Sapphic SWAT team... at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (L5yyj)

236 229 Cavil,

he IS having an impact dude because he is either the world's biggest douchehammer or a democrat plant.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (LRFds)

237 NEWS FLASH: I get lonely down here in mommy's basement.

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (aHR5E)

238 Obama's 'OIHO' gaffe

---

I'm not sure that was a gaffe. Isn't O-I-Oh what the Wicked Witch of the West's guards were singing as they marched into her castle? I think it's just the Obama fight song. Next: evil flying monkeys.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (Hx5uv)

239 Yeah but.......what's the word on the street?

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 10:41 AM (gKGI0)

240 John Lennon's killer has been denied release from prison in his seventh appearance before a parole board.
The New York Department of Corrections says Mark David Chapman was denied parole after a hearing Wednesday.
Chapman shot Lennon in December 1980 outside the Manhattan apartment building where the former Beatle lived. He was sentenced in 1981 to 20 years to life in prison after pleading guilty to second-degree murder.
The 57-year-old Chapman was transferred in May from the Attica Correctional Facility to the nearby Wende Correctional Facility. Both are maximum security. The prison system doesn't disclose why inmates are transferred.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (05RcU)

241 Kit Bond is an old, old man too long retired to shift himself eight hours per day.

Plus, his blood alcohol content must be a constant .20%.

Sorry.

Posted by: Justamom at August 23, 2012 10:34 AM (Sptt



Have you seen Lautenberg? He looks as tho he has been dead for at
least 2 years. He looks like an extra in a vampire movie. He too had
been retired.

We need a placeholder with name recognition stat!

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:38 AM


Barbaric! Barbaric!!!

Posted by: zombie Robert Byrd at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (bAGA/)

242 Should we rename the Democrats' convention the Lesbos Convention in honour of Janet Nappytano and her power-grrls of DHS?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (kDokH)

243 Ladies and gentlemen of Missouri, either you are closing your eyes to a situation you do not wish to acknowledge, or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated by the presence of a pool table an Akinin your community!

Posted by: Professor Harold Hill, Gold Medal Class of '05, Gary Conservatory of Music at August 23, 2012 10:42 AM (BAS5M)

244 If his swords weren't enough it doesn't help that he's a creepy looking old dude...

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (W2Z3C)

245 233 Jack Straw,

EXACTLY without the whitehouse we cannot fix the economy because Obama will ignore the law and inflict damage with regulatory fiat...

and Huckabee does NOT care because he is butthurt he is not the Prom King....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (LRFds)

246 Fuck a duck.

The jobless rate just went up again.



*blows whistle*


You forgot unexpectedly. That's a clear style foul. Related, I am considering taking up a donation to buy the AP a thesaurus. C'mon, can't they do with surprisingly? Strangely? Shockingly? Anything else at all?


I will only cite you for the caps since you are generally a responsible caps driver.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (VtjlW)

247 I have not yet begun to fight!

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (gKGI0)

248 Things have gotten worse in the last four years? Let's run on this on pound Barry over the head for the shitty economy.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM


Just goes to show how well Boooosh! planned to take down the country!

New unemployment claims "rose unexpectedly" again as well, according to Bloomberg News.

Couldn't we get off this "Nameless Candidate in MO" shit now? Everyone who is worked up about it has chimed in here at least 42 times, and their positions are well known.

We still face a shitstorm from Bark Obama that will dwarf anything this possible hurricane can do to Tampa. Whingeing about some worthless small-time fuckstick may be fun for those who indulge, but it's Shiny Stuff that takes eyes off the real dangers we face.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (wZI4b)

249 @Allen - actually, Ras was near the bottom of the pack for 2010:

http://americanresearchgroup.com/ratings/2010/summary/

They were off by 4-5 points generally (that's a Nate Silver stat), but it didn't matter in every race for the bottom line call. Still, that year, they were in the bottom tier for overall accuracy, not the top tier. Doesn't damn them forever, but that's the most recent record.

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 10:43 AM (ZiYQG)

250 "Akin is a plant."

I take serious offense to this. You will be hearing from our lawyers.

Posted by: The Flora Anti-Defimation League at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (5npD/)

251 Todd Akin is not a plant. He is a tar baby and everyone is getting stuck on him.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (kDokH)

252 I haven't clicked into it but I'm absolutely horrified by this headline on drudge:

"Obama: Team Romney coming on strong, playing dirty, time to 'put them away'..."

"put them away" is mafia type talk...

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (oZfic)

253 Sometimes people just gotta put their hand on the burner before they'll believe its hot.

The big yellow sticker on an HP LaserJet's fuser assembly was a finger magnet.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (ogdab)

254 The jobless rate just went up again. The CBO came out yesterday and said
we are basically on the precipice of a depression. Entitlements are
threatening to crush us ... and we are talking about abortion.


---

There are many in the Donk base who don't care about economics, don't care about foreign policy, don't care about constitutional liberty but who do care about sexual liberation.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (Hx5uv)

255 204
Kit Bond is an old, old man too long retired to shift himself eight hours per day.
Plus, his blood alcohol content must be a constant .20%.
Sorry.

Then put Matt Blunt up to it. He beat McCaskill in 2005 for the Governorship of the state and he's got a shit-ton of name recognition due to his own service and that of his dad, Roy.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (e0xKF)

256 212
I hope this is a wake-up call to all the dimwits around here calling for
doubling down on anti-abortion rhetoric taking front seat in the
Presidential race.


Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:36 AM (f9c2L)
Careful, someone may insult you like a petulant 12 year old child for living in the real world where abortion is in the single digits percentage wise when it comes to importance for voters.


Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (/YJYi)

257 I say fuck it, embrace it.

There are two realities.

Those who are fully pro-choice and all that that entails.
Those who are fully pro-life and all that that entails.

The GOP is fully pro-life.
The Donks are fully pro-choice.

It would seem the providence has pushed this fight into the spotlight.

Let's have at it and let the chip's fall where they may.

If the election truly hinges on this, then the Republic has already been lost all that is left is to manage the decline. Let the Donks do that I will be heading to the ramparts.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (06lNq)

258 Todd Akin is not a plant. He is a tar baby


Say it with me now raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!


How's the word count coming along?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (VtjlW)

259
If his swords weren't enough it doesn't help that he's a creepy looking old dude...

Okay "swords"? I meant words, but words are mightier than the sword and his have certainly cut Our throats...

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (W2Z3C)

260 The Republican Party of Wisconsin announced today the addition of a
ticker on its website, showcasing, down to the minute, the amount of
time it has been since President Obama stepped foot in the important
swing state of Wisconsin.

“President Obama talks a great game on how important Wisconsin is in
his race to the White House, yet hasn’t set foot in the Badger State in
more than six months,” said Nathan Conrad, Communications Director for
the Republican Party of Wisconsin. “Wisconsin has consistently been in
play on a national level and the most recent polls have shown Mitt
Romney and Paul Ryan with all the momentum. Our goal is for the people
of Wisconsin to not forget President Obama and his inability to remember
us as he continually flies over for his endless fundraisers.”

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (P6QsQ)

261 Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 23, 2012 10:33 AM (J6kXj)
___

As much as we can appreciate Ryan's appeal from his photos, you have to see him in person to get an idea of his charisma. But he's not just a pretty face (and bod). He's informed, articulate, focussed, and displays all the true marks of a leader without the scariness. His opening remarks had to do with defense cuts, and then went on to the economic platform.

If Team Romney gets him out to critical counties in swing states, I don't think they'll have to worry too much about the women's vote.

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (jm/9g)

262 Oh, you got trouble my friends. Big, big trouble.

Posted by: Professor Harold Hill, Gold Medal Class of '05, Gary Conservatory of Music at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (BAS5M)

263 I haven't clicked into it but I'm absolutely horrified by this headline on drudge: "Obama: Team Romney coming on strong, playing dirty, time to 'put them away'..." "put them away" is mafia type talk...
Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (oZfic)

It's the "new tone", baby!

Posted by: Barack Obama - most interesting man in the world at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (/Mla1)

264 *doomy attack-ad music* Even Paul Ryan's black ex-girlfriend won't vote for Mitt Romney... Is this the type of ticket we can expect to bring our newly post-racial America to the next level?
Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 10:24 AM (V40IZ)
-------------------------
Barack Obama's composite ex-girlfriendcan't vote for Obama because she's not real. Yeah, that's the ticket to bring our hope and changey-based America back to reality.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (QjSgY)

265 Word count, need to get back to it. But broke 29,000 words. Now onto 31,000 words and beyond!!! Oh wait not writing science fiction like Galaxy Express. Never mind....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:46 AM (kDokH)

266 I think the speculation that this is Huckabee's plan to smear Mormans and Mitt is probably closer to the truth than anything.

Remember: It was a mere four years ago that that turd was open and proud about smearing Mitt over religion. It takes a man of the worst character to use another man's religion for political gain. And Huck couldn't wait to do so.

There is no way that Huck comes out against Akin. Because 1) I think Huck would rather Obama win than a Morman win. He has well proven that his hatred of Mormons exceeds all else (Name one Huckabee criticism of Obama?). 2) He sees this as his play to gain back power. However stupidly, he thinks he can leverage the threat of Akin's Mutually Assured Destruction for concessions from the GOP.

We need to wrap our heads around the fact that there are evangelicals who view Mormans worse than moslums; they hold "Bible studies" about how Mormons aren't Christians, they talk from the pulpit about how Mormons are a cult and on and on. It is a fringe, a small fringe but, they are out there fully convinced only they have God's Truth.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (imtbm)

267 This new poll could hardly be a surprise but I REALLY want to have a close look at the 38% who said they would still vote for this ignorant, selfish, absolutely unqualified man.
Sooner or later the Republican Party will very seriously regret its attachment at the hip to the so-con political movements. How many more loons are lurking around out there just waiting for the rocks to be turned over and their true selves to be revealed ?
My guess is more than one would care to think.

Here's the thing though. If as many suspect, this stupid, ignorant, man has a clear history of this type of insanity, which is probably why the Dems supported him, why did not SANE Republicans call him out on it before it all blew up in their faces ? Were they content that he was a complete loon as long as it was not noticed ? Did they not see what a danger such a candidate could be ----- Across The Country ?

"This selfish swine, Todd Akin, is going to hurt the Republican party.
We're not only going to lose a guaranteed Republican pick-up seat... but
it is going to bleed over into other races." --Ann Coulter.

Selfish swine, indeed. The selfish part might be somewhat new, but the swine part is clearly of very long standing. How could this have happened ? In 2012 ?
How ?

Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (aHnDq)

268 >>hey were off by 4-5 points generally (that's a Nate Silver stat), but it didn't matter in every race for the bottom line call. Still, that year, they were in the bottom tier for overall accuracy, not the top tier. Doesn't damn them forever, but that's the most recent record.

No, actually. The most recent same type poll was the 2008 presidential race and Rasmussen was the most accurate pollster. They were pretty much dead on.

Nate Silver is a statistician, not a pollster. All he does is aggregate polls.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (TMB3S)

269 The only way this effort can save Obama is nothing happens in the next 10 weeks here or elsewhere to distract us from Akin and teh GOP War on Women.

Put a containment plan in place and execute it.

Over the course of weeks the plan and unrelated events will neutralize the Akin damage.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (Wp4rQ)

270 "Obama: Team Romney coming on strong, playing dirty, time to 'put them away'..." "put them away" is mafia type talk...

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (oZfic)



It's the "new tone", baby!

Maybe they think it's time to drop the October "surprise" early?

Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (W2Z3C)

271 Or was that Galaxy Quest? Yeah back to not writing science fiction with movie references.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (kDokH)

272 249 and superstar baseball card man Nate Silver got it right?

oh no no he didn't.....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (LRFds)

273 Did anyone else see that Michelle Obama made a pitch for everyone to be sure to come out and vote on November 2nd?



The election is November 6th.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (P6QsQ)

274 "put them away" is mafia type talk...

Posted by: cynder ella
...........
It's also sports talk.. don't be so sensitive.. you'll start sounding like a libtard.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (f9c2L)

275 199 Maybe Akin could arrange to be caught getting a rest stop BJ from a 17 yo boy. Then maybe the news would go quiet on him. That's what happens right?
-----
The truck stop pervert dropped out this morning.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)

276 Huckabee should have stuck with what he knew, fried chicken.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)

277 JackStraw has it. It is the economy, stupids.

So Akin fucked up? Remember:
1. It's a sideshow issue
2. If you are going to replace Akin, you had better have someone who steps in at the 11th hour and can do it, or else you are just cowering before the Liberal Media Narrative.

Jeff Goldstein of Protein Wisdom sums it up:

We witnessed gross anti-intellectualism and the insidious politically correct chilling of speech through an aggressive, Twitter-fueled pique of competitive outrage. It was disgusting to watch frankly — with people actively trying to one-up each other in their purported bother over a minor point on the pro life continuum. The reasons for this I can only speculate upon: a desire to be seen as a “thinking” conservative, set apart from those kind, whose godbothery social conservatism has always made them suspect to the cognoscenti; a cynical opportunism to replace one candidate with a preferred candidate; an ostentatious sanctimony that seems very important to a large portion of the online right.
Whether Akin should have stepped down or not was never my concern. My concern — and my criticism — has always been aimed at the those who placed our Senate chances in Missouri in jeopardy by reacting to a gaffe as they did. And it wasn’t Todd Akin — who did the perfunctory apology tour almost immediately. Or rather, his contribution was minor, and his recovery would have been easy had it not been for the reaction from the right — from online calls for his removal, to press releases sent by GOP officials, and so on. In the end, this is what sunk Missouri for the Republicans: if you are going to publicly call for the removal of a candidate as a show that you, too, are FOR WOMEN!, you’d better first make sure he’s willing to step aside to give you your moment of cheap grace and social posturing.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (ujg0T)

278 Leave him alone, I am enjoying the rest.

Posted by: The Chicken at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (3ZjAP)

279 I REALLY want to have a close look at the 38% who said they would still
vote for this ignorant, selfish, absolutely unqualified man.

--------



People who are looking at the end game. That's who.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (P6QsQ)

280 "Care to spell it out?"

Sure. Let me give a shoutout to a professional pollster who went by the name Aurora back in 2004. He taught me an incredible amount about polling.

All polls provide a wide range of sampling. If you are only asking 800 people their opinions, then it is pretty easy to end up getting 600 Democrats in your sample. What most pollsters do is they will use a party ID sample as a screen to determine if they will count the results of that response. They will then drop a random set of responses from the sample and not count them in the results. Sometimes they will also keep polling until they get enough of the proper ID to generate a statistically significant sample.

This is normalization, you want your results to be statistically significant, so you adjust the number based on the factors you consider important. Other common screens to use a likely voter, registered voter, and gender. Sometimes a poll might look for racial makeup as well.

So a normalized poll of 800 likely voters may have samples from 1200 people. But a number of those aren't counted because they need the final result to match a specific model. In Rasmussen's case, he is normalizing based on a secondary poll, which is a really good methodology. In the case of a poll like Pew, with a D+19 sample, you have to wonder what their normalization criteria was. They could say they didn't use one, they just happened to get a D+19 response. But what makes us all suspicious is that they never seem to get an R+12 result.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (QXlbZ)

281 Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 10:45 AM (06lNq)

Not a good idea.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (Wp4rQ)

282 266 Royal Oil,

they will get to embrace the baby butchers because if the CC back Huck's play and we lose I am done with them.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (LRFds)

283 Bill Clinton just let loose with a vacuous lie based hail mary on the economy....The goddamned Media is going to donate over 2 billion dollars worth of ad time to Obama....------

They. Were. Going. To. Do. This. Anyway.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (YmPwQ)

284 Did anyone else see that Michelle Obama made a pitch for everyone to be sure to come out and vote on November 2nd?
The election is November 6th.


Posted by: mama winger
..........
That's cuz in Chicago the motto is "vote early, and vote often"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 23, 2012 10:49 AM (f9c2L)

285 The Democratic idea of Democracy:

1) only whites can be racist
2) only women are allowed to make decisions about women

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (05RcU)

286 Maybe they think it's time to drop the October "surprise" early?
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (W2Z3C)

they are way over confident. smirking and twinkling their eyes, giddy with anticipation...like they have an entire month of "somethings" that will seal the deal of a second term...

they are truly getting on my nerves how upbeat and happy they are....and when you throw the national debt, student loan debt, economy in general, back at them ....they smugly say..."you'll see".....ugh

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (oZfic)

287 273
Did anyone else see that Michelle Obama made a pitch for everyone to be sure to come out and vote on November 2nd?



The election is November 6th.


Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (P6QsQ)

Come on gurl, you know the 2nd is when the dead people vote!

Posted by: Mooochelle at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (/YJYi)

288 Mafia... hey stop stealing my novel's material...

"I see a couple of familiar faces in cheap suits and bad haircuts loitering in front of the building."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (kDokH)

289 277 Curmudgeon,

the party that defends rapists, choom kings, and whomever come what may is down the hall....

this is not about abortion, or "freedom of speech" this is about a man so weapons' grade stupid he is destroying the party.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (LRFds)

290 Akins: "jewish mind control is the hardest to break out of" http://is.gd/vgBtEm

Posted by: Gerry at August 23, 2012 10:51 AM (kycA/)

291 276
Huckabee should have stuck with what he knew, fried chicken squirrel.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)

FIFY

Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (X6akg)

292 286 CE,

again go play in traffic

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (LRFds)

293 Word count, need to get back to it. But broke 29,000 words.


Hey, getting over the half way hump is a major step. Once you hit that, you know you can do it. Remember, it's only 21,000 more you need! *pompoms*


Also, you're thinking Galaxy Quest. Never give up! Never surrender!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 10:52 AM (VtjlW)

294 Akin is living in his own little bubble. Let's hope this poll pops it.

I'm betting that he's going to rationalize that it's a biased poll and keep going. Reality will only break upon him on election night.

I do hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Lee at August 23, 2012 10:53 AM (RtwOA)

295 *detects cat piss*

*opens a window*

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (Wp4rQ)

296 @281

Ok.

But you do realize this is not going to go away.

Reporters are going to start asking Republican candidates all sorts of wonderfully pointed questions to entice "responses" which can be fully exploited by the Donks.

It would be nice if

A) We either fully embrace it and have a GOP widespread brainstorming session.

B) Learn how to deflect or turn around these questions.

Because now every Republican has to formulate a response to being accused of being anti-science and being pro rape. Which is completely unfair but this is where we are.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (06lNq)

297 The truck stop pervert dropped out this morning.
Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:48 AM (5H6zj)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nice, even a truck stop pervert has more sense than Viceroy Akin.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (SzAZ7)

298 How many days until our convention? Reince and Mitt need to take care of this problem before the convention. I pray this poll sinks in to Akin

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (Dnbau)

299 288 Mafia... hey stop stealing my novel's material...

"I see a couple of familiar faces in cheap suits and bad haircuts loitering in front of the building."
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (kDokH)

ok, the mafia has the very best fine custom made italian suits and they use the best barbers....

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (oZfic)

300 257 I say fuck it, embrace it.

There are two realities.

Those who are fully pro-choice and all that that entails.
Those who are fully pro-life and all that that entails.
----

The GOP platform cmte approved a "no exceptions" pro-life position, again. That's not the issue. The issue is that this dude Akin is a knuckle dragging moron. He *knew* the right argument to make re rape, he even *voiced* that argument, but he undercut everything with his magical hooha theory.

Then in his various nonpologies it became clear that he does not understand what is wrong with what he said. He doubled down on the stupid.

I am no exceptions pro-life, including morning after pills, but there's no way in God's green earth the American people are ready for that. I think we have to work towards that sort of goal, but the only way we get there is by educating the public. Magical Hooha Boy does not help that cause.

If I lived in MO I probably would not be able to vote for the guy. I would try to do a write-in. He's as bad as Al Gore, using whackadoodle understandings of scientific studies to justify public policy decisions. Do. Not. Want.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 10:54 AM (5H6zj)

301
they are truly getting on my nerves how upbeat
and happy they are....and when you throw the national debt, student loan
debt, economy in general, back at them ....they smugly say..."you'll
see".....ugh

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (oZfic)


Honey bunny......'they' are cats and cats don't vote.

Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 10:55 AM (X6akg)

302 283 DS,


no .shit .sherlock .guess. what? low.information. retard. voter. you. know. barry's. base?
they. are. watching. and. will. now. bray. louder. DUH

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 10:55 AM (LRFds)

303 the party that defends rapists, choom kings, and whomever come what may is down the hall....this is not about abortion, or "freedom of speech" this is about a man so weapons' grade stupid he is destroying the party.

In other words, you are dancing to theLiberal Media Tune.

Akin screwed up, apologized, and had it not been for the piling on, that could have been the end of it. Had the posturing members on our side instantly started talking about McCaskill’s abortion position vs that of Akin’s — that is, saying something along the lines of what I offered up yesterday — they would have recovered quickly and the subject dropped by the left.
The truth is, many on the right who keep telling us that this is the most important election ever and we have to win are the same ones whose first instinct is to help neuter conservative candidates.
Sorry, but that’s just what I see.

I am not anti-abortion, and I am all for replacing Akin if it can be done at the 11th hour. But General Woundwort has it: Let's point out whatdisgusting Baby killers the Obamunists are with their 9th month and even after birth abortions.

Also, for a pro-life candidate to be talking about abortion in addition to fiscal and economic matters, I addressed it in the post: Akin is pro life and has always run as such; McCaskill helped support a government mandate that requires the Catholic Church, among others, to pay for abortifacients. That creates a stark choice for voters who perhaps like the President’s manipulation of markets but doesn’t like his insinuation into religious issues.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 10:56 AM (ujg0T)

304 "Yes, I'll remember that poll, when we're one vote short"

Which means we lost ND, MT, MA, VA, and FL. I'm pretty confident that no one will be looking at MO and calling that the defining moment in the election, if that is the case.

95.1%

Would you rather be on the Dem side looking at less than a 5% chance of holding the Senate?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (QXlbZ)

305 There's definitely going to be a shortage of batteries in Charlotte (and no just because Joey-Biden keeps eating them)...

Posted by: J-Nap Sapphic SWAT team... at August 23, 2012 10:57 AM (mWijP)

306 Alexthechick, I know. 21,000 words and finish line. This story may run longer than that. The characters want to talk about everything. Which is far better than sullen characters you have to prod with a shock-stick.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (kDokH)

307 Come on gurl, you know the 2nd is when the dead people vote!


Posted by: Mooochelle at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (/YJYi)

Chicago Hell Night.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (PcoXF)

308
Careful, someone may insult you like a petulant
12 year old child for living in the real world where abortion is in the
single digits percentage wise when it comes to importance for voters.




Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 10:44 AM (/YJYi)


Foolishness like this is precisely why the country will continue to swirl the drain, regardless of what masturbatory delusions you cook up about how Mitt Romney's gonna save the economy. This whole charade will repeat itself, and do you know why?

Because, by and large, the people do not care about anything other than their own benefit, and wish to be left to that. That attitude is precisely why, even if the Republicans do take wide-ranging control of the government, there will be no will to effect the truly necessary changes to save the country. The basic problem remains - nobody gives a damn about anything other than themselves. They'll seek to ensure their own well-being with little regard for the well-being or safety of others; sure, someone's going to protest mightily how unfair that charge is, but if you shove your faux righteous indignation aside for a moment, you'll see the truth of it.


"Mountain of infant corpses? Who gives a fuck, there's payroll to consider." You can't understand it, I know, but a nation without justice is doomed to die off. It's gonna happen. It is gonna happen. And since you cannot see the forest for the trees, all you can do is whine about how nobody's paying attention to the primary topic of importance. Blind.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (LMHSz)

309 he IS having an impact dude because he is either the world's biggest douchehammer or a democrat plant.

They had a tactical success (assuming, as seems likely, the seat stays D), but there are enough other races starting to show signs of life (Connecticut? Who knew?) that it may wind up being a wash on the numbers--and in any event, you can't assume an R will vote like an R automatically (Maine sisters and Brother Brown, take a bow hike).

Strategically, they actually run the risk of falling into their own trap. If they go all-abortion/wymmyn's issues, all the time, they wind up looking even more pathetically out of touch than they already do--and with the R's having acted swiftly, ruthlessly, and with as close to unanimity as I've ever seen, the odds that they can be painted with that brush with any real success are very, very low...and any success in 'flipping' anyone with it will be negated by losing folks disgusted with the distraction from the core economic issues.

Short form: Lighten up, Francis. We can do this.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 10:58 AM (GBXon)

310 I don't know about wimminz, but my cat Flurry (3 mos. old kitten) has declared a war on Q-tips. All morning I was wondering where the little bits of white material I was picking up came from. Then I just went into the bathroom and saw a half-dozen Q-tips on the floor, some decapitated, and then thecat ran by with onehanging out ofhis mouth like a cigarette.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 23, 2012 10:59 AM (HethX)

311 >>In the end, this is what sunk Missouri for the Republicans: if you are going to publicly call for the removal of a candidate as a show that you, too, are FOR WOMEN!, you’d better first make sure he’s willing to step aside to give you your moment of cheap grace and social posturing.

Nah. What sunk Akin is Akin's mouth.

This wasn't a gaffe. This was a neutron bomb of stupid. The fallout has been felt across the country and will continue to be.

The Republicans who called on him to drop out, which is pretty much everyone, did so because they understand the world they live in, politics. There are certain things you just can't say and stylistic musing on rape is one of them.

Let me repeat that. If you want to start riffing on rape do so somewhere other than if front of a fucking camera.

People who keep insisting that this is a giant nothing burger are being naive. The donks are organizing their entire convention around this dumbass issue because they understand politics. Clearly, we don't.

The only reason Romney is not blowing Obama out right now is the woman vote. We are always behind in this vote, Democrats have a double digit lead in women registration over Republicans. All we have to do is keep it close.

Talking about rape does not equal keeping it close. Talking about rape equals getting beat.

Akin won't get out because he wants to be a senator and his wife wants to be a senators wife and it hasn't dawned on his cement head yet that that ship has sailed. He's never going to be a senator. Ever.

All we are doing now is waiting to see how much damage he wants to inflict on the country on his way down.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (TMB3S)

312 Even if Akin quits, we are now stuck with the abortion questions. We shouldn't run from it.

However, the longer he stays in the more it will suck all the air from the room. He has to go. If we lose this election nothing else matters.

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (Dnbau)

313 This incident is a good indicator that many on the right have not learned the lesson about controlling the narrative, or at least following their own narrative, rather than buckling under to the narrative created by the left. The "progressive" Commiecrats should feel very proud of themselves. They have the right falling all over themselves to demonstrate their "progressive" credentials.

Yes, Akin fucked up. But it's still the Obamunist Oh-conomy, stupids.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (ujg0T)

314 Fluffy wants to be a Cool Kat. Run with Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (kDokH)

315 Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 10:50 AM (oZfic)

This is the sooper-sekrit insider idiocy you were peddling in 2010. How'd that work out for you, babbling fuckwit?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 23, 2012 11:00 AM (xr29d)

316 God told him to stay in fight Satan. End of story. I'm not being sarcastic. Goodbye Missouri.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (dZ756)

317 sven10077,

I don't think they care. Huckabee and his followers are suicide bombers of a nominally Christian faith.

If they can't force you to believe as they do then they'd rather destroy everyone.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 23, 2012 11:01 AM (imtbm)

318 Cavil I agree that if they go all abortion as sacrament at their convention it will backfire.

Still Akin has to go. Now. It will hurt us. It has legs beyond MO. We need to win

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (Dnbau)

319 "Reporters are going to start asking Republican candidates all sorts of wonderfully pointed questions"

Ryan handled this yesterday pretty well, "Rape is rape, next question"

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:02 AM (QXlbZ)

320 "I am no exceptions pro-life, including morning after pills, but there's
no way in God's green earth the American people are ready for that. I
think we have to work towards that sort of goal, but the only way we get
there is by educating the public. Magical Hooha Boy does not help that
cause.

If I lived in MO I probably would not be able to vote for the guy. I
would try to do a write-in. He's as bad as Al Gore, using whackadoodle
understandings of scientific studies to justify public policy decisions.
Do. Not. Want" Y-not

A well thought out comment. I absolutely do not agree with your position but at least it is intellectually defensible, even if it ignores the social consequences of its implementation. But if you can sell it over the fullness of time, in a campaign of education, so be it. I don't think you can but that's just my opinion. But I can easily see having a civil discussion of the issue with you. I could NEVER sit down with a moron like Akin without wanting to send him a fish wrapped in a newspaper.

Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 11:03 AM (aHnDq)

321 303crumbmuncher,

I am not anti-pro life I am anti retard. Akin is legitimately the most retarded non mentally ill by obvious read GOP candidate I have ever seen. I hate the DNC with every fiber of my being and I would not vote for him.

His "apologies" compounded the problem and were likely a snare to try to drag everyone ten points down with him....

I am not pissed that we are down so little, I am pissed that thanks to huck helping the DNC "oopsie daisy" at a minimum we have this mess.

You do not reward Corky for burning down the diner.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (LRFds)

322 And we call the liberals the emotional ones.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (QXlbZ)

323 CNN's Robin Meade did a country cover of Don Henley's 'Dirty Laundry'

http://youtu.be/WXeYzCE3h94

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 11:04 AM (kDokH)

324
# 303

Akin screwed up, apologized, and had it not been for the piling on, that
could have been the end of it. Had the posturing members on our side
instantly started talking about McCaskill’s abortion position vs that of
Akin’s — that is, saying something along the lines of what I offered up
yesterday — they would have recovered quickly and the subject dropped
by the left.


The left is not dropping it, nor will they.

Google news search 'todd akin', more than eight million hits.

Google news search 'kerry gauthier', less than 8 thousand hits.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (L7hol)

325
I'm all in for a War on Women. I think I'll start with curious and crash her fuckin jaw. Think about the benefits of winning this war:

- They don't get to vote. Or drive.

- Sammiches on demand.

- Not allowed within 35 feet of devices broadcasting football games except for sammich delivery.

The possibilities are endless and most chicks aren't very tough. We should do this thing.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (nxyLn)

326 Did anyone else see that Michelle Obama made a pitch for everyone to be sure to come out and vote on November 2nd?The election is November 6th.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 10:47 AM (P6QsQ)
-----------

She was sending out a code. The date for stuffing boxes of ballots in car trunks is November 2nd. All cars must be loaded and ready to depart the Chicago marshalling yard by 7:00 AM on the 3rd and in situ awaiting discovery as needed by 8:00 PMon the 4th.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (QjSgY)

327 The poster so dumb, cats ask for it by name.

Posted by: oZfic at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (pUOs2)

328 319 DaveinFla,

yes and I highlighted why contra to Ace I thought that was the right way...

the media is reporting it as "avoiding the question" and running Mitt's picture next to Akin's positions and words....

that is not an "oopsie daisy" either....

I think we saved ourselves from the Nestea plunge by flaming the hell out of him, but I am also certain this whole mess was needless and could have been prevented by destroying Huck between '08 and now

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:06 AM (LRFds)

329 "NEWS FLASH: I just ate a booger."

There you go with the misinformation tactics again, rethugz!

I didn't eat it. I just breathed in really hard and it wound up shooting out of my sinus and down my throat.

Posted by: Gerrie at August 23, 2012 11:06 AM (5npD/)

330 I could NEVER sit down with a moron like Akin without wanting to send him a fish wrapped in a newspaper.
-----------------
*I* could never have a conversation with Akin without wanting to smack him around with that dead fish.

His thought-process is so warped, so ignorant, and so destructive that it offends me as a scientist, as a woman, and as a conservative.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (5H6zj)

331
"I don't know about wimminz, but my cat Flurry (3 mos. old kitten) has
declared a war on Q-tips. All morning I was wondering where the little
bits of white material I was picking up came from. Then I just went into
the bathroom and saw a half-dozen Q-tips on the floor, some
decapitated, and then thecat ran by with onehanging out ofhis mouth like
a cigarette" 310

That made my morning, in the midst of this Akin lamenting. I do likes me some kitties.
Thanks.

Posted by: Dougf at August 23, 2012 11:07 AM (aHnDq)

332 Think about the benefits of winning this war:

- They don't get to vote. Or drive.

---------------


Wisconsin Lutheran Synod is a step ahead of you. Women can't vote (in church matters). They can still drive though. How else will the sammiches get to the church for potluck?

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (P6QsQ)

333 It's only a flesh wound.

Posted by: Todd Akin, Knight of Nicht at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (qwK3S)

334 @Dave - Thank you, very clear. So if I read this right, differences in results can come from not just differences in the Party ID of the poll itself, but the underlying data a firm is using to "normalize" results to match that underlying data to prevent a freakshow of getting 800 R's or D's in a sample of 1,000.

I guess then, if that underlying data somehow shifts over time, it's possible to be off by "x" percent. And at each firm, someone is in charge of handling the incoming underlying data and ultimately making the call on what the accurate voter model is at the time of the poll. This, to me, if I have this right, is where the differences show up. So the person making the call does count for something.

As to your question (why never R+12?), this is anecdotal, but I have a feeling there are more Indies who are disaffected R's, so they self ID as Indie instead, and then the majority of them pull the R trigger. In reality, I think D's don't have a shot at as many of those Indies as R's do. Again, that's a gut feeling, so whatevs, but there it is.

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 11:08 AM (ZiYQG)

335 317 RO,

I am inclined to agree with that portion of the CC.

They screw us and lead us down the path to hard socialism that will take a war to undo quickly I am done with 'em, matter of fact even if we win it all I am probably done with 'em....I'd rather pay the bribes to the Union boys to get them back and split the donks by running against the EPA than have the holy martyr brigade in my FOB's AO.....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:09 AM (LRFds)

336 People who keep insisting that this is a giant nothing burger are being naive.

People who think this is The Doom Of The Cause are losing perspective. It has effects, but it's not fatal--it might have been, but the immediate reaction is limiting the damage and losses.

Anyone who thinks the Dems win on 'moral issues' is mistaken. They win on economic issues, after a fashion--that they bring the goodies. If they stray from that, they falter.

They are straying from that. They are doing so because the position is becoming indefensible. So they're going back to the 'identity issues', and make no mistake, that's what abortion really is for them. Is that a savvy read of the electorate? I don't have the internal polling from either party, but that whiff of something in the air is whispering, "No."

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 11:09 AM (GBXon)

337 what is tel # to call and tellem

GTFO

Posted by: Bruce at August 23, 2012 11:10 AM (O2jNi)

338 Don't even waste any time with trying to go the legal route to get him off the ballot. The leftists on the panel will just stonewall.

Write in Ann Wagner. And let's go up with some superPac money and get Romney to appear with her. This is so infuriating. Let's hand it Tommy Thompson for picking up the slack! That's a pickup. And Heller and Brown are closing the door, so it's not armagedeon. But let's not forsake MO, Write in Ann Wagner.

Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 11:10 AM (iHqLy)

339 During the primary wasn't claire really down with the numbers? Is it possible for something to turn around like this, this quickly and so monumentally?

Could people just be out and out lying to rasmussen?

I'm asking this as a serious question cause it seems wholly bizarre that she could turn things around that fast with one mis speak on the part of her erstwhile opponent.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:10 AM (oZfic)

340 I am anti retard.

That hurts, Sven. I try so hard.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (8kq7+)

341 Bill Clinton didn't talk about rape. Bill Clinton actually raped someone.
Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by: polynikes at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (m2CN7)

342 I spoke the truth...after all, I rape myself almost daily and I've never gotten pregnant. So there.

Posted by: Akin will be out in a at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (mWijP)

343 The idea that Akin's damage can be contained to Missouri is ridiculous. He will cost us multiple Senate seats. I guess the national party has zero carrots/sticks to affect the Huckabee wing of the party because somehow Akin is still in the race.

Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (I4NNt)

344 I think we saved ourselves from the Nestea plunge by flaming the hell out of him, but I am also certain this whole mess was needless and could have been prevented by destroying Huck between '08 and now

I think we can agree on this part. Hucksterbee Delenda est!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (GBXon)

345 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 23, 2012 11:05 AM (nxyLn)


I will give you the first one. If you think you are keeping me from football, well, bless your heart, you have another think coming.


{good work on setting loose a squirrel in this thread}

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (VtjlW)

346 @Jack Straw- "No, actually. The most recent same type poll was the 2008 presidential race and Rasmussen was the most accurate pollster. They were pretty much dead on."

When you say "same type poll", Is there something about a Ras Senate poll as of right now that has more in common with 2008's metholodolgy than 2010? I saw the MO-SEN Poll in the post, that's what got me wondering. And what was off about that ARG link I posted?

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at August 23, 2012 11:12 AM (ZiYQG)

347 340 Joey Plugz,

I know bless your heart Joe...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:12 AM (LRFds)

348 Sven - Here is the thing. I think they were going to run this line of attack anyway. Sure they are using Akin, but they would have found someone else without him. It's the only thing they've got.

Personally, I think Akin is a Godsend. He brought the issue out early, and let Romney kill it hard. The ads about "Romney being against abortion even in the case of rape" were ALREADY running in Florida, months before Akin.

The Dems are going to overplay this, because it is all they have and they really do believe they hold the majority opinion on murdering babies.

See Memorial, Wellstone.

This affects only the MO SEN race, which frankly became a problem when Akin won the primary. The MO voters didn't know he is a total fucking idiot. It has minimal effect on Romney or the rest of the Senate races.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:12 AM (QXlbZ)

349 He will cost us multiple Senate seats.


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Which ones?

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 11:12 AM (P6QsQ)

350 344 Brother cavil,

I am serious if the Donks win and the CC tries to powerplay the GOP into the GOD! party based on the nuclear detonation Akin is risking I say we buy off the unions....

people forget we had the unions until Clinton a bigger portion anyway.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:14 AM (LRFds)

351 I am anti retard.

That hurts, Sven. I try so hard.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (8kq7+)

Bless your heart

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:14 AM (Dnbau)

352 "How many days until our convention? Reince and Mitt need to take care of this problem before the convention."

Reince and Mitt pick Akin up at the airport in Tampa.
Akin: "Hey guys! How ya doing? I'm really excited to go to the convention today! Let's go! *sticks his head out of the open window and lets his tongue loll out as they pull away*

*Mitt and Reince remain silent as Reince drives out of the city, smiling softly, sympathetically*

Akin: "Hey guys! I didn't know we moved the convention out here! It's really pretty out here, this is a great place for the convention!"

Mitt: "Here's good." *Reince pulls to the side of the empty two-lane country road*

Mitt: "Hey Akin! You're a good boy, Akin! Let's get out and play!"

*Mitt throws a frisbee. Akin retrieves it and brings it back. Mitt throws it further. Akin finds it and brings it back*

Akin: "This is a great convention, guys! I love this convention!"

*Mitt throws the frisbee really far and off to one side. It lands in an overgrown drainage culvert, deep in the tall grass. Akin spends several minutes finding the frisbee, digging it out, and then bounds back to where the car used to be parked on the side of the now completely-empty road. He pants softly, looking one way and then the other, his tail wags slowly, expectantly...*

Posted by: Gerrie at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (CGjum)

353 348 - Those ads now will get traction because voters have been reminded that there a quite a few religious nuts in the R party. Disaster.

Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (I4NNt)

354 The Cylon Committee to De-Elect the President hereby issues the following as its final statement on the matter:

http://youtu.be/qvPugcb7QGE

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (GBXon)

355 He will cost us multiple Senate seats.
Posted by: Spike

Disagree. The damage will be contained. The response was swift and harsh. Scott Brown is crushing Warren in post-Akin polling. Don't be defeatist. We will wash our hands of Akin, and we will Murkowski him and Air Claire.

Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (iHqLy)

356 Stupid Gerrie sock.

Posted by: reason at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (CGjum)

357 "The idea that Akin's damage can be contained to Missouri is ridiculous. He will cost us multiple Senate seats."

No.

Current probability that we will take the Senate, including Akin staying the race is 95.1%

Funny how stubborn math can be. It just refuses to bend to a narrative.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (QXlbZ)

358 348 Dave in Fla,

I had put the anxiety away Dave but he chewed up 3 points of Generic Congressional approval, and 2 points in the Presidential at Ras....

all of this was unneeded we should have Old Yellered Huckadoodle in '09

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (LRFds)

359 The left is not dropping it, nor will they.
Of course not. The Left never drops their pet causes. But Brother Cavil at #336 has it. Let the Left continue with the phony "war on womyn" while *real* women watch their household finances contract.

The Left has been trying this shit ever since 6 months ago when George Snivelopolus brought up a stupid question seemingly out of nowhere about contraception to Mitt Romney at a presidential candidate debate. The Left has been planning this meme for months if not years.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:16 AM (ujg0T)

360 Spike - Bullshit. Go troll somewhere else.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:17 AM (QXlbZ)

361 there a quite a few religious nuts in the R party. Disaster


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Hi. My name's Disaster. Nice to meet you.



Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 23, 2012 11:18 AM (P6QsQ)

362 #349 Off the top of my head, MA and CT. I think we had a real opportunity to completely rout the Dems this time. Now there will be some voters in the soft middle who will be scared off. They are low information voters and the left wing media's constant talk of Akin's statement will scare them off.

Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 11:18 AM (I4NNt)

363 >>Anyone who thinks the Dems win on 'moral issues' is mistaken. They win on economic issues, after a fashion--that they bring the goodies. If they stray from that, they falter.

Nonsense. Take a good hard look at the Obama campaign. The one thing they are specifically not talking about is the economy.

Obama has done nothing this cycle but give out goodies to specific interest groups. Gays get marriage. Illegals get green cards. Womens get "free" healthcare. That is the Democratic coalition. Whats in it for me?

It boogles my mind that everyone from St Sarah of the North to the head of the RNC to the Republican presidential nominee has told this guy to disappear and some people here do not get the danger this guy represents. You don't tell a guy who should have won a contested Senate seat by eating ding dongs and snapping his carrot to get out unless he is terminally toxic well beyond his borders.

It's now Thursday and we are still talking about this shit. Do you think this is winning us any votes?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 11:19 AM (TMB3S)

364 Let's point out whatdisgusting Baby killers the Obamunists are with their 9th month and even after birth abortions.

Highlight the mechanical aspects of partial birth abortions. If the media wants to talk abortion, IMMEDIATELY start talking about skull puncturing and vacuum sucking of brains. Don't talk "murder", forget moral arguments, etc. The mildly pro-abortion crowd has a natural immunity against those arguments.

Keep the discussion mechanical and focused on the cringe factor of SUCKING BRAINS OUT THROUGH A TUBE.

The media will switch topics very quickly because that shit is straight up nasty and brutal and tough to sell to the 90% of the public that's not rabid single issue pro-abortion.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (1sjSo)

365 "NBC GETS NO ROMNEY CAMPAIGN HELP ON MORMON SPECIAL"

http://tinyurl.com/9hh3yh9

"ABC "World News" Does Four Minute Segment On Mormon Church"

http://tinyurl.com/9eb9de3

These are the actual links for these drudge headlines:

"NBC plans one-hour special on Romney religion..."

"ABC NEWS Does Segment On Mormon Church..."

I can't watch the video but I will watch it later.

I was a little horrified to read on one of these threads this morning the fact that someone thinks Huckabee attacked Romney in 2008 over his religion. Does anyone have any links to this for research? TIA

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (oZfic)

366 I have a gut feeling that the gang that can't shoot straight ("Remember to vote Nov 2") is going to fail with the fem/lib lineup at the convention---hanging everything on what this one guy said--when every one in his party has publicly and all over the media begged him to leave and called his comments stupid.
Women aren't stupid as a block, but they are wooable.
Even charming Bill Clinton isn't enough to offset the dreariness of a stream of whining women. They've taken the temperature of the electorate using a rectal thermometer stuck up their own ass.

Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (e9kQC)

367 "I had put the anxiety away Dave but he chewed up 3 points of Generic
Congressional approval, and 2 points in the Presidential at Ras...."

No he didn't. Get a grip.

Generic congressional shifts all the time, and had nothing to do with this. The odds that we will lose the House are 0%. The odds we will take the Senate are 95.1%, down from 98.6%. Romney is exactly where he was in Rasmussen before all of this hit. One week ago Rasmussen was showing Obama +2, today it is even.

Think long term, whatever affect this had will be long gone in November. We aren't voting tomorrow.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:22 AM (QXlbZ)

368 I was a little horrified to read on one of these
threads this morning the fact that someone thinks Huckabee attacked
Romney in 2008 over his religion. Does anyone have any links to this
for research? TIA





Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (oZfic)


Wait.....I thought you were a day ahead of everyone else here....and you're asking us for something Huckabee said in....2008?!

Posted by: Tami at August 23, 2012 11:22 AM (X6akg)

369 Nonsense. Take a good hard look at the Obama campaign. The one thing they are specifically not talking about is the economy.

Obama has done nothing this cycle but give out goodies to specific interest groups. Gays get marriage. Illegals get green cards. Womens get "free" healthcare. That is the Democratic coalition. Whats in it for me?


Not jobs.

Not sane gas and food prices.

Those things are nice, but when you can't make ends meet, they're hollow benefits. And even the Dem dead-enders know it.

Game over.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 11:23 AM (GBXon)

370 Does anyone have any links to this
for research? TIA

For you? No.

Posted by: Scobface at August 23, 2012 11:25 AM (IoNBC)

371 You know who is a subject matter expert on rape? Bill Clinton, that's who.

Posted by: Juanita Broaddrick at August 23, 2012 11:26 AM (SzAZ7)

372 370 Does anyone have any links to this
for research? TIA

For you? No.
Posted by: Scobface at August 23, 2012 11:25 AM (IoNBC)

It was sort of a nice way of asking said person to back up what they said about Huckabee with some kind of tangible proof.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:26 AM (oZfic)

373 367 Dave,

Hey Dave it's me I don't see losing the house as real, I am using the GC% as an indicator of what turnout models to use though bud....

that is while not precise not a bad rule of thumb.

The problem is the compression of crap the Media and the donks will be throwing at an energized base....

Bill Clinton *may* represent enough of a "hey look a squirrel!" to the retard base that they get less glum about going to vote instead of getting stoned...

I have faith in our ABO voters, but the longer Akin shows his ass the more likely we have a civil war in the CC/FiCon ranks in our party and to tell you the truth if the CC types REALLY make the argument "we owe it to Akin" I am gonna side with the FiCons.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:27 AM (LRFds)

374 (JACKSTRAW)It's now Thursday and we are still talking about this shit. Do you think this is winning us any votes?

Exactly, Jack! Rather than acknowledging it was a gaffe and moving on, we have people on our side who think they can make the liberal media like them by posturing and baying for Akin's blood, rather than quietly working behind the scenes (if something can be done at this 11th hour), and then making the best of it when they realize there is not.

I'm not surprised Akin decided to get pigheaded and hang in there. I mean, having your own side — from the Presidential candidate on down — calling for you to step aside, surrender your career, and take one for the team who just helped fuck you, that tends to piss a guy off.

We social cons really should learn to listen to our betters and not get so uppity!

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:28 AM (ujg0T)

375 we dont owe shit to Akin

take that back, we owe him a ride into the NJ marshlands

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:28 AM (Dnbau)

376 Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:26 AM (oZfic)

Not like it's tough to find. Huckster apologized for it.

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 11:28 AM (73P68)

377 372 CE,

If you can't go back and look at Mitt's shit from late Campaign for Nomination '08 I am not doing your homework....it is soft bigotry but bigotry.

http://tinyurl.com/957kx4s

I cannot be bothered with a "Christian" who is angered by Mormonism, but gives Jerry Wright and Islam a shrug

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:30 AM (LRFds)

378 374 CrumbMuncher,

Yeah I must have missed our purging the SoCons like the Donks have the BlueDogs....

he is a retard, end of story....

I am not a Ron Paul guy either same reason a retard who hurts the party

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:31 AM (LRFds)

379 302 283 DS,no .shit .sherlock .guess. what? low.information. retard. voter. you. know. barry's. base?they. are. watching. and. will. now. bray. louder. DUH
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If the "low information retardvoter" is Barry's base...andI agree that they are...they were gonna vote for him anyway.Aikindoesn't matter in that regard. As for braying louder, they havealready dialed itup to 11, 24/7.
The way you worded your post, looks like you were tryuing to say that Aikin is motivating Dems to act like Dems. Which they are. Bill Clinton was gonna lie and bray about the economy anyway. The media is/was gonna donate 2 billion dollars of free advertising for Obama, anyway. No shit, Sherlock,.
Not gonna say that this doesn't hurt the GOP at all.I wish the guy would leave, too. But I'm betting that the Dems will overplay their hand as usual, and that the "no information voters" who ain't paying attentionnow will have better things to worry about when they decide on Nov 6. Or 2nd, if you listen to Moochelle.

Posted by: The guy who says Mike Castle! at August 23, 2012 11:32 AM (YmPwQ)

380 this is not about abortion, its about Akin and stupidity. He is gonna lose in MO. And we will be very lucky if it stops at the borders.

I could not care less what the MFM thinks. But I do not let my animus toward the media blind me to reality

we can win the election, and the abortion argument, but not with akin. He hurts us. He hurts the prolife movement

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:32 AM (Dnbau)

381 At the very least, Akin is a gullible patsy being set up by people who do not care if /want Republicans to win this election. In other words, democrats.

I'm seriously beginning to straight-up think that he's a Dem plant. He's done more harm to the pro-life cause than 40 years of pro-abortion media propaganda.

Posted by: Book at August 23, 2012 11:32 AM (oxqtW)

382 >>We social cons really should learn to listen to our betters and not get so uppity!

No, you should learn the game you're in. The game is politics whether you like it or not.

It's getting a little tiring hearing social cons strap on the hair shirt and play the victim. This is not an indictment on all social cons, this is an indictment on a dumbass back bencher who only won his primary because of Democratic assistance. He fucked up. Now he needs to go.

This really isn't all that hard if you actually care more about your issues than you do this goof.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 23, 2012 11:33 AM (TMB3S)

383 he isn't a dem plant but they are using him like he is one and he is too stupid and ego driven to see it

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:33 AM (Dnbau)

384 Unless a deal in place for a conservative to replace him, one as strong as he is on social issues, the Republican and conservative establishments can screw themselves.


Posted by: Kirk at August 23, 2012 11:34 AM (Ligdw)

385 Off, really smelly sock. Sheesh.
And listen to Dave in Fla. He is wise.

Posted by: Damn Sock at August 23, 2012 11:35 AM (YmPwQ)

386 Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 23, 2012 11:20 AM (e9kQC)
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I agree. In a weird, "providential" way...dimbulb Akin may have done our side a favor.


Come election day, this won't even be on anyone's radar. So many international hotspots: the Middle East, China getting aggressive with its neighbors... by November the American electorate may be much more invested in saving their own asses rather than worrying about womanhood's collective vajayjay.

Posted by: kallisto at August 23, 2012 11:35 AM (jm/9g)

387 381 Book,

It will not shock me in the least if at a minimum Huck, and possibly Akin are both Donk shills and it comes out in the next decade.

There is a coordinated effort to split the Protestant churches on secular lines going on and even the CC is floating AGW worship as a valid GOP position...."we can help through carbon credits"....

best case scenario is "compassionate conservatives" want a new cookie har, worst case is they really believe the Gaia cult's bullshite and are a sign the end is coming

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:35 AM (LRFds)

388 has tyler gone to the dark side?

http://tinyurl.com/bp4sjyh

funny thing is, the commenters don't start refuting his notion until way way down. they might know money and the economy but they seem to not know politics.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:35 AM (oZfic)

389 "It's so frustrating to lose several winnable seats in '10 because of
lousy candidates, only to repeat the same mistake this time around. What
were you thinking, MO?"


We were thinking we liked Brunner or Steelman, but Claire ran unopposed, so a bunch of Dems in St. Louis and Kansas City went and voted in the Republican Primary, to pick the worst possible challenger.

Posted by: KSB at August 23, 2012 11:35 AM (kUYEl)

390 "we have people on our side who think they can make the liberal media like them" Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:28 AM (ujg0T)

You do realize that this is August, 2012, right? The braying would be for the media if it were 2011, or even May, 2012. We are now in "voters are beginning to make up their minds" territory. We are not trying to convince the media. We are trying to convince the soft-squishy, completely unprincipled voter.

Meanwhile, Akin grabs ahold of the (R) party while failing to notice the concrete anchor he attached to himself through his own stupidity.

At least you acknowledge that he is only in it for himself, and that it has nothing to do with a stand on principle, since we both know that he is hurting his professed cause, as well as general fiscal sanity.

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 11:36 AM (73P68)

391 the Republican and conservative establishments can screw themselves.

Really,

if he stays, and we lose, what will the gain be for so cons?

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:38 AM (Dnbau)

392 You know I was thinking this morning, romney/ryan aren't doing so bad for people who have their funds tied up until after the convention. I mean, if they aren't running ads everywhere like the prez is then they are doing pretty well.

Must give the BO campaign team agita.

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 11:39 AM (oZfic)

393 When do I get my command in the war on women?

Posted by: John Edwards at August 23, 2012 11:39 AM (SzAZ7)

394 391 thunderb,

they will try to spin it as "we should have made OUR pov the center of the platform and recruited Huck!" unless I miss my guess....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:39 AM (LRFds)

395 "if he stays, and we lose, what will the gain be for so cons?"

Easy! Increased federal funding for abort.... wait, wha?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 11:40 AM (73P68)

396 344
I think we saved ourselves from the Nestea plunge by flaming the hell
out of him, but I am also certain this whole mess was needless and
could have been prevented by destroying Huck between '08 and now



I think we can agree on this part. Hucksterbee Delenda est!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, covering his bases at August 23, 2012 11:11 AM (GBXon)

^ThisFuck Akin we already did a full court press letting the country know the party and everyone that matters wants him out. This is not Obama's ameikkka yet where you can force people to do what you say. Just keep hitting that when asked and quickly move on.And Fuck Fuckabee. that fat meddlesome bumbling piece of shit and his crappy tv show and even crappier radio show and his craptastic fat family and animal torturing kids need to go.And that's all i got. Let this fool and his fool eneabler keep making bigger fools of themselves.Just be ready with the back up plan on who you are running if he drops out. Althought him dropping out even if he is -40 to claiire mcfatasskill isnt likely.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 23, 2012 11:42 AM (ovpNn)

397 He's representing Todd Akin. No one else.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 23, 2012 11:42 AM (qvify)

398 "Partisan ID normalization."

Polling firms can justify just about any partisan ID combination they want.They can simply apply the last presidential election breakdown, use combinations of historical data and current registrations or just make shit up and work backwards to make the math semi-believable.

Sometimes, people will give the other side favorable numbers because of the way other pollsters slide from adults to registered to likely as the election nears. If they start with abias towards dems, as the other pollsters switch to more accurate modelthey can reinforce the preference cascade by adjusting their numbersmore toward reality.


Posted by: jwest at August 23, 2012 11:44 AM (ZDsRL)

399 (sven) "they will try to spin it as "we should have made OUR pov the center of the platform and recruited Huck!" unless I miss my guess...."

Now who is saying this? Huck isn't running. And frankly, he has been backpedaling from his 2008 fuckup gaffe--publicly--ever since then, you can watchhis Fox News show as living proof.

Akin fucked up, we all know this. But (1) the issue is still a sideshow, and (2) the attempts of some of you to make the liberal media like you won't work and they never have.

If the Commiecrats want to die on the abortion hill, then let's go partial birth and after birth on them. Meanwhile, Obama is still a SCOAMF, and Claire McCaskill is an Obamunist stooge

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:45 AM (ujg0T)

400 Hold the presses, but the newpaper of record says Akin can still win.
"Victory for Akin Seen as Difficult, but Still Possible" NYT H/T Hotgass
Isa Moron is punching at the NYT punching up or down?

Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 11:45 AM (0udxW)

401 I wasn't offended by what he initially said. I'm offended that he thinks he's better than the fallout when he's clearly not. Started a #standaside on teh twitters

Posted by: David C. at August 23, 2012 11:47 AM (ZtMso)

402 the dem and NYT want him to stay in. I am sure they have our best interests at heart.

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 11:47 AM (Dnbau)

403 "
The fabulous thing about Akin is that even if he wins what we're
getting is a guy who flipped the bird to virtually everyone of note in
the conservative movement AND to our future (we hope) President and Vice
President.



Exactly, Y-Not. I am having trouble seeing his high morals here."

I'm seeing another Murkowski is what I'm seeing.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 23, 2012 11:47 AM (qvify)

404 Amazing how there are so many Republicans who say they could never support Akin.
How many Democrats do you think would say they could never support McCaskill if she had said the same thing?
Obviously it's not quite the same thing since the MSM would have made sure that hardly anyone heard about it, but it still says something about the morals of the two parties.

BTW - If it meant the difference between winning or losing the Senate I would still vote for the idiot. The other 50 Republican senators would more than drown him out, which is far better than letting Harry "Wizard of the KKK" Reid stay in control.

Posted by: Norcross at August 23, 2012 11:50 AM (4EA5K)

405 399 Crumbmuncher,

You go on ahead and mosey over to hotair and see the Church groups lining up behind Captain Error.....

Huckafuck is relying on the Christians closing ranks behind Akin and enough will they'll raise hell win or lose.

This is a retarded attempt by Huckabuck to Xanatos gambit the GOP FiCon wing....

and ME giving two shits about the newsies liking me?

Yeah I can tell you're around a lot then dude.

I want to start having the GOP break necks and jaws of the newsies....

you got the wrong cowboy there pardner....I just understand the reality of the battlescape.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:51 AM (LRFds)

406 402 Thunderb,

The NYT is always there with Conservatism and Pro-choice prospects earnestly hoped for and argued for....

*sigh*

al-NYT why won't you like *my* picks?

Oh that's right they kick socialist ass unlike the Akin wing

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:52 AM (LRFds)

407 Amazing how there are so many Republicans who say they could never support Akin.
Posted by: Norcross at August 23, 2012 11:50 AM (4EA5K)

Amazing how many Republicans actually want to win the Senate.

Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 11:53 AM (rrpa4)

408 sven dear: do you have anyone at this 11th hour who can step in and win, given MO election rules? I didn't think so. If you "understand the reality of the battlescape", then understand *that*.

If you really "understand the reality of the battlescape", then realize this is a sideshow, thatMcCaskill is a SCOAMF stooge, and that you shouldn't give up, even after an admittedly dumbass mistake.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 11:55 AM (ujg0T)

409 408 CrumbMuncher,

Darling, I could give a shit about the MO Senate seat. Banging your heels together muttering there is no place like home does not change the media jihad on the GOP using Fuckstick's retardese Vagina monologues as a club bless both your hearts. He should have left, and in trying to hang on is either a defacto or dejure Dem operative.

Cut his ass off and someone should cauterize his vocal chords.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 11:59 AM (LRFds)

410 Mr. Akin, Do you believe that abortion should be outlawed, even in cases of rape or incest?

"On the issue of abortion, I'd simply like to contrast my position with that of President Obama, who believes that a baby, out of the womb and breathing, should be left to die if that is the will of the mother. I stand against infanticide!"

Is that really so hard?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 23, 2012 12:03 PM (73P68)

411 408 sven dear: do you have anyone at this 11th hour who can step in and win, given MO election rules? I didn't think so. If you "understand the reality of the battlescape", then understand *that*.

---

Ann Wagner:
http://chesterfield.patch.com/articles/will-ann-wagner-take-akins-spot-on-the-ballot

It's actually the smartest solution, b/c it allows Akin to save face by running for re-election in his Congressional district. So the Party could offer to help him do that, while greatly reducing the damage of his continued candidacy for Senate.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 12:03 PM (5H6zj)

412 411 Y-not,

he will not go for it, it was already on the table and that bit of gymnastics requires MO donk court approval....that is why I think Akin is a knowing or patsy stooge for Huck....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:05 PM (LRFds)

413 >>he will not go for it

Whether or not he'll go for it is on him and the minority of conservatives who are deluding themselves into thinking that he is some Conservative Warrior and the only option. I am sick of being accused of being some sort of MSM stooge for demanding this asshole face facts.

I've read conflicting things about the feasibility of it happening from a logistical standpoint, even given the composition of the judges involved.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 12:07 PM (5H6zj)

414 413 I think we can assume that Huck's Mormon hate trumps his pro-life positions. I have disliked him since the vile comments he made about Mormonism in his "gosh shucks" type of delivery.

I wish we knew for sure. I would go after Huck with everything I had, including demanding Ailes cancel his contract.

By the way, Huck's home is in Florida now. He built a big mansion down there.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 23, 2012 12:09 PM (GoIUi)

415 (sven) Darling, I could give a shit about the MO Senate seat.


And there you have it. What you care about is posturing. Never mind that we can't move someone into position this late in the game, never mind that this issue is still a SIDESHOW, never mind that if they really want to go full on abortion, then let's talk about partial birth and even retroactive.

Some of us don't want to give up the field, even after a serious fumble. You apparently do. And again, to use the football analogy, I'd be more than happy to move in another QB and send Akin to the showers--if we could get one up to speed this late.

Some on the right have a constant need to distance themselves from part of their base and even their party platform — and to do so very publicly and ostentatiously and with an increasing propensity to brook no dissent on matters that have been socially settled in their circles, where they need to make the media like them. It’s either sanctimony or intellectual hubris that drives it, but it’s there.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 12:09 PM (ujg0T)

416 I think he'll still win.

http://imageshack.us/f/267/akino.jpg/

Posted by: Rob at August 23, 2012 12:10 PM (v0FG1)

417 413 Ynot,

Tell me about it...."yiu want the media to like you.." no ; want to win and I hope akin and the media burn in hell

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:11 PM (LRFds)

418 I don't get it! Why do the Republicans insist on pandering to Christians, who we all know are majorities?

Posted by: typical commenter at August 23, 2012 12:11 PM (kycA/)

419 I have no qualms about distancing myself about a part of the base that believes in magical hoohas.

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 12:11 PM (5H6zj)

420 Current probability that we will take the Senate, including Akin staying the race is 95.1%

Funny how stubborn math you can be. It just refuses to bend ....


Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 23, 2012 11:15 AM (QXlbZ)


Fixed that for you.
Todd Akin is a liability and there is a 95% probability that he will say something stupid and hurt again. Any idiot can cast a vote the right way in the Senate, there's nothing that special about this guy that you should risk one percentage point for him.

Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 23, 2012 12:12 PM (FEzSe)

421 1. Does this guy have no internal polling. If these are the stats they shouldn't be news to him.

2. If I were in the DNC, I'd be finding a way to get this guy a few million as quick as possible.

Posted by: AD at August 23, 2012 12:14 PM (78B0w)

422 415 crumb muncher,

You can try to build your tough guy cred by saying screw the media but Captain Dipshit is being used to sway ntional turnout and attack every GOP canedidate......

Now I have discussed how to stop this ticky tack bullshit, but we will likely never do it. I wish he'd go Bud Philpott and fix this. It'd be a nice honorable FU to media bias.

Instead God told him personally to fuck the GOP so this GOPer says fuck him

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:15 PM (LRFds)

423 ICYM: http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2012/08/blunt-takes-lea.php

Posted by: Y-not at August 23, 2012 12:15 PM (5H6zj)

424 39 states, bitchez.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone rapscallion at August 23, 2012 12:17 PM (I2LwF)

425 419 Y-Not,

absolutely....

I am not, nor is the GOP under any obligation to aid a vain retard who decided God called him up and said, "be a tool for Obama Todd I'll cast all the votes needed bud hang in there".....

that type of ego ends up with dead people and the 6'o clock news blaming the GOP and such.

Don't worry though concern trolls I am almost certain his ego will prevent the Philpot solution

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:20 PM (LRFds)

426 Next up on the internet agenda:

"GOP lawmaker: Virtually impossible to get AIDS through heterosexual sex"

http://tinyurl.com/9833lef

Posted by: cynder ella at August 23, 2012 12:20 PM (oZfic)

427 Wooo Woooo.
We are the deciding demographic! Rush says Oboma is pandering for the moron vote.

Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 12:21 PM (0udxW)

428 427 Bidenoid,

Yes, yes you are.....if you're thrilled with a kid who thinks the 3 branches of government are for hanging a swing on.....thank a teacher.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:27 PM (LRFds)

429 (Y-NOT)Ann Wagner: http://chesterfield.patch.com/articles/will-ann-wagner-take-akins-spot-on-the-ballot It's actually the smartest solution, b/c it allows Akin to save face by running for re-election in his Congressional district. So the Party could offer to help him do that, while greatly reducing the damage of his continued candidacy for Senate.

I have seen three different replacement names tossed out on this thread already. If overwhelming consensus on a good replacement, AND getting that replacement up to speed,can be done at this 11th hour, great, but I fear it can't.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 23, 2012 12:29 PM (ujg0T)

430 384 Unless a deal in place for a conservative to replace him, one as strong as he is on social issues, the Republican and conservative establishments can screw themselves.Posted by: Kirk at August 23, 2012 11:34 AM
__________________
Do they have to be f*cking retarded as well, or is that point negotiable?

Posted by: buzz at August 23, 2012 12:33 PM (i27M5)

431 429 Crubmudeon,

ah got it....well screw it what we should have done all along is throw all our resources behind Sentaor Ed special dude from MO?

This is not the "11th hour"....

wonderboy has not even been the nominee a month before he decided to go suicide bomber

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:34 PM (LRFds)

432 430 Buzz,

I am not sure a dead guy is as harmful as would be senator Special Ed has been...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:35 PM (LRFds)

433 Get your ass out of the race, Akin.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Hobbit S.O.B. at August 23, 2012 12:36 PM (e63u/)

434 The solution that won't happen but is my favorite is to get Oboma to nominate McCaskill as his Veep and then get Biden to run for the Missouri seat. Biden and Akin debate then do a joint porn video.

Posted by: BidenloidTheHappy at August 23, 2012 12:38 PM (0udxW)

435 #415

"Some on the right have a constant need to distance themselves from part of their base and even their party platform — and to do so very publicly and ostentatiously and with an increasing propensity to brook no dissent on matters that have been socially settled in their circles, where they need to make the media like them. It’s either sanctimony or intellectual hubris that drives it, but it’s there."

Any voting coalition, R , D whatever are going to have frictions. We fiscal cons realize we need you guys to win elections. What I don't understand is why you guys often seem incapable of making expected value calculations. You want to move the public policy to the right, yet you often make choices that that ultimately will ultimately move the country to the left because having a candidate spouting off socon red meat is more important than winning elections. It is frustrating.

Posted by: Spike at August 23, 2012 12:39 PM (I4NNt)

436 The problem with switching him and Wagner is that we don't need him in Congress, PERIOD. He's more like NARAL's caricature of a pro-lifer, rather than an actual pro-lifer. No one will ever want to co-sponsor anything with him, ever. He's 65 years old. Time to sit back, smell the roses, and most importantly shut your pie hole.
Wagner will be just as conservative as him, at least on any issue that has any chance of passing or even coming to a vote. She'll also be a heck of a lot more effective. Same goes for anyone who replaces him on the ballot for Senate (first and foremost, they will have an efficetiveness edge over Akin by virtue of actually getting elected.)

Posted by: buzz at August 23, 2012 12:40 PM (i27M5)

437 if akin will quit, a replacement can still be elected if it is a known name, a known quantity.

Its happened in Jersey any number of times

Are there no MO party bosses? Enough of this begging

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 12:41 PM (Dnbau)

438 The blueprint to run a write-in candidate has been laid out. Will Murkowskicampaign for Ann Wagner? Akin doesn't have the money to compete with SuperPacs and the NRC and NRSC blasting the airwaves with a write-in campaign for Ann Wagner. But I fear that some MO primary voters will be bitter . . . . oh wait all the Akin primary voters were democratsdoing a solidfor Air Claire. Write in Wagner.

Posted by: Schnack at August 23, 2012 12:44 PM (SHqN1)

439 435 Spike,

It is because to them the point of politics is emotional and spiritual validation, "LOOK I AM GODLY!" Politics should be about the art of the possible, and the possible was that Akin's damage could have been neutered quickly had he just quit. Instead he got his Jihad on.

If they think they are going to get their way from the aftermath of this they are dumber than Akin.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:45 PM (LRFds)

440 What disturbs me the most is not that this idiot is the stupidest , most embarrassing , negative narrative filling characature of a Republican I have ever seen.
No what really disturbs me is now that there is polling data, Biden and the economy and Ryan are off the headlines, we still have people defending what the schmuck said, saying his apology should suffice, saying its a minor distraction ,saying its been discussed enough,, saying he will still win, saying Ras is cooking the numbers, and saying it won't affect the senate or presidential election .
THAT IS WHAT DISTURBS ME.

Posted by: Avi at August 23, 2012 12:46 PM (Gx3Fe)

441 440 Avi,

Tune in to the Mike Huckadoodle show where huck plays the guitar and explains to Todd on air that Rasmussen is part of the media machine Todd keep going buddy you said you were sorry!

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:49 PM (LRFds)

442 Methinks that there should be some shameful self-reflection and not on the part of Todd Akin. George Neumayr is spot-on here. http://tinyurl.com/9p235tx

Posted by: Deb at August 23, 2012 01:06 PM (eaUNb)

443 442 Deb,

That's right Deb we should have had faith that Chuck Todd and firends would buckle down, say in a manly way "apology accepted Todd" and get back to reporting on the war, the economy, and Obama's lies.....

um "no"....the guy is too stupid to trust with any power.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 01:09 PM (LRFds)

444 The fabulous thing about Akin is that even if he wins what we're
getting is a guy who flipped the bird to virtually everyone of note in
the conservative movement AND to our future (we hope) President and Vice
President.

Considering they're overreacting on this issue as much if not more than democrats, they need the finger given to them.

Posted by: Earl at August 23, 2012 01:24 PM (a3d3c)

445 444 Earl,

Gee earl that is a copy and paste job....well played well played

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 01:30 PM (LRFds)

446 Todd Akin is a maverick, just like our favoritest candidates evuh, McCain and Palin.

Ooh, you stick it to TEH ESTVBLISHMENT, you fighter you!

Posted by: Anony at August 23, 2012 02:37 PM (qiXMt)

447 Akin will be gone by month end.

Posted by: LorenU at August 23, 2012 03:12 PM (NqJX/)

448 6
Who gets put in his place when he goes?

Alan Keyes?

Posted by: Sammy Finkelman at August 23, 2012 04:42 PM (9n4lg)

449 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 23, 2012 06:13 PM (6o4Fb)






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