Overnight Open Thread (8-22-2012)

A WSJ Book Review: "Better Off Without 'Em: A Northern Manifesto for Southern Secession"

Travel writer and former Maxim editor, Chuck Thompson, really, really does not like the South (or even states that are just a little too adjacent to it). A better title for his book would be 'Rednecks in the Mist: Those Horrible Horrible People'.

Here is part of Barton Swaim's rather scathing review in the WSJ:

On the first page, the author wonders why the American electoral system must be "held hostage by a coalition of bought-and-paid-for political swamp scum from the most uneducated, morbidly obese, racist, morally indigent, xenophobic, socially stunted, and generally ass-backwards part of the country." You expect him to let up, to turn the argument around, to look at the other side of question. But he never does. For more than 300 pages, Mr. Thompson travels through the South observing customs, outlooks and people and subjecting them to an unremitting stream of denunciations.

And unshockingly he find the South to be a hellhole of racism where among other outrages black and white neighborhoods are <shudder> intermingled:

More disturbing is his refusal to take seriously any evidence that Southern racism has diminished, even when that evidence comes from African-Americans themselves.

He is aware of reports in the New York Times and elsewhere that black Americans are moving to the South in record numbers. A black New York native living in Oxford, Miss., tells him, "I love it here." But Mr. Thompson dismisses what he calls "breathless predictions of a post-racial South." They just make him look harder for racism-and of course he finds it.

...He is outraged, for example, to discover the close proximity of poor black and middle-class white neighborhoods in Southern cities.

Oh and apparently Ohio and Illinois are now part of the South since some of Thompson's examples of Dixie backwardness are located there.

But hey how can you count on mere rivers to hold back such an overwhelming tide of Southern ignorance and iniquity - or a steadily growing stream of Yankee immigrants crossing the border into deepest darkest Dixie looking for a better life.

But the best summary is from this review blurb on the Amazon page:

"Thank you for the copy of Better Off Without 'Em, but I'm afraid it's New York and San Francisco that I think should secede."

- P.J. O'Rourke

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Who gained the most from the euro?

Well based on this chart the net effect of the Euro was a massive gain for Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Finland at the expense of every other EU country.

euxfereurope

Guardian Writer: "I Wish My Mother Had Aborted Me"

I wish she had aborted me because I love her and want what is best for her.

Which is basically a long-winded way for the author to declare that her life has been a complete waste up until now. But Beisner also covers that point as well:

The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss. Everything that I have done - including parenting, teaching, researching, and being a loving partner - could have been done as well, if not better by other people. Any positive contributions that I have made are completely offset by what it has cost society to help me overcome the disadvantages and injuries of my childhood to become a functional and contributing member of society.

But after she describes how fucked up her mother was/is, I'm not sure that having a child or not would have made much difference. Perhaps a better title would have been 'I Wish My Mother Have Given Me Up For Adoption' or 'CPS - Where Were You?'.

Oh and Beisner probably needs to get her depression and self-loathing treated - if not for her sake then for her husband's and children's.

All This Just For Them?

In fact the actual number of 'swing voters' who can actually be swung is remarkably small:

In spite of clichés about Nascar dads and Walmart moms, the actual share of voters nationally who are up for grabs is probably between just 3 percent and 5 percent in this election, polling experts say. The Obama and Romney campaigns are expected to spend on the order of $2 billion, in part to try to sway this tiny share of the electorate.

"There's a very small slice of people who are genuinely undecided, but it's enough to win the presidency," said Rich Beeson, the political director for Mr. Romney's campaign.

Which is about $220 per undecided vote. And note that 'swing voters' only matter in swing states.

ONIONVOICES

MST3K and the heavily anticipated return of Manos: The Hands of Fate, and RiffTrax

Yep Manos is finally back in theaters but this time in live MST3K/RiffTrax-style.

But we were able to find, on our own, a theatrical print that's very nice. It's better than anything that's out there, so it'll be nice. You know, it tamps the "creepy" down a little bit. But the reason to do it was that we'd all forgotten it. We really had, and we thought after 19 years, there's gonna be a whole bunch of people who haven't been exposed to the horror. And it's only fair that they should have to, since we've endured it. Luckily, we've forgotten everything, so it'll be fresh eyes.

Unfortunately the live national showing was last week. Sad smile But not to worry - there's something even worse coming:

We're doing a live showing of Birdemic coming up in October, I don't know if you've seen this, but it. it just makes me smile. Manos I find kind of creepy, but Birdemic is bad on that level that...you know, every single choice this guy made was the wrong one. Like every frame of the movie was a wrong choice, every actor was wrong, and yet, it's a sublime experience. The unintentional humor is there throughout, it doesn't really drag in terms of that. That's the one that is currently my favorite.

It's important that you realize that it's a serious attempt at making a good movie. That's something you need to get over, because when I first watched it, I was like, "Well, this is ridiculous, someone just tried to make the worst movie ever made." Then you look into and you realize, "Oh no, he was entirely sincere in every bit of it," and that makes it so much more fun.

manos-mike-nelson

Worst Hotel in the US: Executive Inn in Belleville, IL

But it's only ranked #8 out of 10 so you could do worse in Belleville. Here's one of the reviews titled, "Bring some bleach. And a weapon":

The window was broken, the carpet was stained to the point that it almost looked like old flannel, the beds were broken and crooked... the bathroom would have been too gross for an uncensored HBO special, I think that the walls in the actual room were made from cardboard

...As we walked upstairs and through the hall, we were "greeted" by a man who burst out of his hotel room and looked a lot like a haggard BB King, fresh after a shot of "mace" directly to the eyes. After asking each one of us (there were 4 of us) if we had any cigarettes or anything to smoke, he let us go, but not before watching us take every last step into our 2nd room...

I would recommend visiting this place if you don't have any children to care for and want to shoot a documentary on the inner-workings of a drug ring.

On the other hand the on-site hooker is an amenity that not all chains offer.

11 Pop Culture References Younger Readers Won't Get

"Have you ever tasted a pine tree? Several parts are edible" and the term Eddie Haskell-type are just two of them.

2z4r

The After School XXX Special Awards

The newest recipient of our After School Special Awards goes to Brittni Colleps, a married mother of three and teacher from outside Ft Worth, Texas, who is accused of not only sleeping with five student athletes from her school, but having group sex with four of them all caught on tape. Brittni made sure to do her homework though, as she made sure all the students she packed on top of her were eighteen.  The prosecution was so confounded by how to prosecute her that they had to invent a brand new crime just to keep Colleps off the street.

Where the hell were these teachers when I was in school?! My female high school teachers ranged from anti-viagra up to meh at best.

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Teh Tweet!

Yahoo group. That is all.

Tonight's post brought to you by a young Teddy Roosevelt:

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Comments

1 2nd!

Posted by: The inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at August 22, 2012 10:17 PM (gaUwX)

2 I want to write a book like that about Quebec.

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 22, 2012 10:17 PM (8UijS)

3 Dear Chuck Thompson,
Bless your heart.

Posted by: Ruby at August 22, 2012 10:19 PM (vt4Ip)

4 Rifftrax is pretty damn funny. I've got a lot of their stuff on my MP3 player (mostly the shorts). Almost like MST3K never went off the air. I recommend it highly.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 22, 2012 10:19 PM (d6TfZ)

5 akin looks like Blumenthals brother. maybe comb overs drop your IQ 60 points.

Posted by: Avi at August 22, 2012 10:19 PM (51xVX)

6 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:20 PM (6o4Fb)

7 Is that really Teddy?

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:20 PM (QupBk)

8 Chuck Thompson, bless his heart.

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 22, 2012 10:21 PM (8UijS)

9 Nice ONT. I grew up in the Northeast, and had heard all my life that the South was so racist and all. I also heard others saying it was a special place, and that the Northerners had it all wrong.

So I went there, to see what it was like. From a friend of a friend's mouth, I did indeed hear the dreaded N-word, that is not uttered in polite company in the NE. But, like Chuck Thompson, I also saw white people and black people living and interacting together, far more closely than one sees in the rigid de facto segregation of the Northeast. I concluded that to avoid an entire population is far more racist than to live cheek-by-jowl with them, and insult them from time to time. Sort of like Britain and France. So you can keep your Southern racist stereotypes coming from the mouths of Northeasterners who live resolutely white. I am not buying.

The ultimate expression of this is Vermont. So self-satisfiedly liberal, so utterly devoid of black people.

Posted by: Splunge at August 22, 2012 10:21 PM (2IW5Q)

10 I'm slow....

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 22, 2012 10:21 PM (8UijS)

11 Because, Chuck, everyone knows that in such enlightened realms as New York City, Detroit, and Chicago, all races live in perfect harmony, in perfectly equitable middle class neighborhoods, and the schools have achieved 100% literacy rates. Also, you all are able to produce all of your own food and don't depend on us out here for anything.

Posted by: Ruby at August 22, 2012 10:22 PM (vt4Ip)

12 I guess I'm just a redneck in the mist. Bless your heart, Chuck.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:22 PM (UOM48)

13 TR was pretty boss. And I'm off to bed. See everybody in the a.m.

Posted by: joncelli at August 22, 2012 10:22 PM (CWlPF)

14 whoa
that's some sex tape

Posted by: chemjeff at August 22, 2012 10:23 PM (d/5qf)

15 Yeah, the WSJ point that needs repeating is that I sure as hell *wish* all the Yankee carpetbaggers would stop polluting Virginia and other fine southern states.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2012 10:23 PM (xVrjf)

16 Chuck, be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 10:23 PM (Wp4rQ)

17
So Teddy was Islamic Rage Boy's grandfather?

Posted by: Javems at August 22, 2012 10:23 PM (Yzz9l)

18 Hey Moonbats if that offer is really on the table let's get it done.

Here's the deal we figure out how the divorce rolls, 2 years to get to the side of the lines you prefer and then we're separte.


Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (LRFds)

19 Okay, I had an out-of-body experience today, and I am not sure how to react.

One of our brats needs a copy of MS Office for school She conveniently did not load the program onto her computer before she left for college (660 miles away). So, after the panicked call from the brat, I called Microsoft to see whether she can download the program and use my key. I spoke with an extremely pleasant customer service agent who said that he could ship her a copy of my install disk, complete with an extra key and two licenses, and because it was such a hassle for me he would upgrade shipping to next day for no charge.

This was Microsoft. The evil empire. I have based my computing life on hatred of this company. I don't know what to do!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (2b4yb)

20 Young Teddy bears a remarkable resemblance to Wolverine.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (3yCFy)

21 A Southern man don't need him around anyhow.

Posted by: USS Diversity-nyrd at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (0CiTm)

22 No one finds that anti Tea Party wargame scenario disturbing??

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (6o4Fb)

23 Chuck Thompson, you are too good for this country. Move to Europe.

Posted by: fluffy, damn Yankee at August 22, 2012 10:25 PM (z9HTb)

24 The live Rifftrax of Manos was sublimely hilarious. Even better than the MST3K version. I haven't laughed that hard in years. Both theaters showing it in the St. Louis area were sold out.

Posted by: Palandine at August 22, 2012 10:25 PM (4nSJk)

25 20 PW,

shh that's the sequel...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (LRFds)

26 So Chuck Thompson plagerized Whats the Matterwith Kansas?

Posted by: stillers at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (0nZm1)

27 Kiss my Rebel ass, sir.

Posted by: andrew at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (65QIv)

28 Dang- already beaten to the punch a few times re: Chuck Thompson, but I'll give him the Southern howdy anyway- Bless His Heart!!

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (1k4dd)

29 No one finds that anti Tea Party wargame scenario disturbing??

I assume there's a plan for everything.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (QupBk)

30 My name is Chuck, and I'm here to be a dumb fuck.

Bless his heart with an icepick.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (ccXZP)

31 TR could kick Obama's ass five times before he hit the ground.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (gA69l)

32 Yes, yes, keep mocking and disparaging the people with those nasty guns and anger problems. Sounds like a winning plan. Bless his heart, he tried to write a good book.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (GEICT)

33 I'm down with secesion. I think we can handle it like an amicable divorce. No need for fighting or ill will, let's just agree that it isn't working out. We can split it north/south or east/west, doesn't matter to me.

Posted by: Terry at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (nyxv/)

34 Who the fuck is Chuck Thompson and why should anyone give a flying fuck what he says?

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 10:27 PM (DWgdc)

35 The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss. Everything that I have done - including parenting, teaching, researching, and being a loving partner - could have been done as well, if not better by other people. Any positive contributions that I have made are completely offset by what it has cost society to help me overcome the disadvantages and injuries of my childhood to become a functional and contributing member of society.

I think every member of the Church of Liberal Progressive Fundamentalism should heed these words and apply for retroactive abortion.

Liberals, clear thy conscience, now!

I'll be waiting in the automotive aisle at Wal-Mart.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 10:27 PM (z/0ZY)

36 The Guardian has always been nutty left, but damn, that woman is trying to write the Mirror Universe version of "It's a wonderful life."

If she is that convinced that she ought to be dead, then perhaps she should slit her wrists.

Remember kids, its down the block... not across the street!

Posted by: Zippy the Razorblade at August 22, 2012 10:27 PM (sZTYJ)

37 20
Young Teddy bears a remarkable resemblance to Wolverine.



His rifles were made of adamantium.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 22, 2012 10:28 PM (gA69l)

38
sigh
*******looks around*******
yo hillbillies
THE NORTH WON!!!!! GET OVER IT ALREADY
******looks again*******
bitches

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:28 PM (Shrag)

39 This was Microsoft. The evil empire. I have based my computing life on hatred of this company. I don't know what to do!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (2b4yb


Drug dealers often give you the first taste for free.

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2012 10:28 PM (GULKT)

40 How about Ma and Pa Kettle?

Now get off my lawn. ;-)

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at August 22, 2012 10:28 PM (5H6zj)

41 Is that a tinfoil hat on Teddy Roosevelt's head?

Posted by: Mindy at August 22, 2012 10:28 PM (UxGCM)

42 The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss.

To quote the guy who joins Leadbelly on his recording of Goodnight Irene: Well, go ahead and kill yourself then.

Posted by: Splunge at August 22, 2012 10:29 PM (2IW5Q)

43 This was Microsoft. The evil empire. I have based my computing life on hatred of this company. I don't know what to do!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (2b4yb)

It's some sort of trick. Be careful.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 10:29 PM (Wp4rQ)

44 Yeah, Chuck and all your elitist lib friends. Keep dissing the south. When the Shit Gets Real, you'll be begging us to take you in and feed and protect you from your idiot Obamabot, northeastern pals.

Bless your fucking heart.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:29 PM (UOM48)

45 About that stupid book about the south and the racism the author claimed to observe:

the race thing is soooo played out.

My 12 year old daughter came home from school and noticed I had changed the sheets on her bed. The fresh sheets were white. She asked why I changed the bed, and I said because the old sheets were dirty.


She started hooting, "That's raaaaciiiisssst!" laughed and stomped out of the room



Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (Dnbau)

46 Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (GEICT)

I have never understood that particular stupidity on the part of the left.

I have lots of guns with lots of ammo and I am good at using them and I hate you.

So you are going to creat conditions in which survival is dependent on might?

This is not clever.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (2b4yb)

47 43 This was Microsoft. The evil empire. I have based my computing life on hatred of this company. I don't know what to do!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:24 PM (2b4yb)

It's some sort of trick. Be careful.


Whatever you do, don't answer questions about rape.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (GEICT)

48 Forget Teddy, the 1953 Brigitte Bardot on retonaut is pretty amazing.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (GZitp)

49 29 Toby,

I also can count better than the colonel...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (LRFds)

50 I'm skeptical about the lack of persuadable voters. I get that the Romney camp has to say this, but I bet a lot of those Obama voters aren't really committed.

On the other hand, anyone who has decided ABO isn't changing their minds.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (dX4hn)

51 I'm going to post a bit of the reprehensible scenario.Read the rest at American Thinker(link to the actual wargame site).

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:31 PM (6o4Fb)

52 44 Jane D'oh,

I will be strangely deaf to any obvious BAM! fan when the time comes.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:31 PM (LRFds)

53 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (JMmQ9)

54 On the first page, the author wonders why the American electoral system
must be "held hostage by a coalition of bought-and-paid-for political
swamp scum from the most uneducated, morbidly obese, racist, morally
indigent, xenophobic, socially stunted, and generally ass-backwards part
of the country."





Sounds more like a certain demo of DC, Chicago, NY, LA or ATL.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (UOM48)

55 RE: Cultural references- the other day at work, someone came to me with a list of several questions that they needed me to answer. I said "OK, let's keep going and see if you can stump the band." Is anyone else old enough to remember that?

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (1k4dd)

56 Oh man Manos. The best part for me was when Tom Servo started crying.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (Gk3SS)

57 I'm down with secesion. I think we can handle it like an amicable divorce. No need for fighting or ill will, let's just agree that it isn't working out. We can split it north/south or east/west, doesn't matter to me.
Posted by: Terry at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (nyxv/)

I vote for a split the runs East to West and roughly down the center. Would you trust the other half to safeguard the East Coast or the West Coast?

It doesn't matter in the long run. After a while we get the whole thing. A purely Lefty country will not last long.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (Wp4rQ)

58
I have never understood that particular stupidity on the part of the left.

I have lots of guns with lots of ammo and I am good at using them and I hate you.

So you are going to creat conditions in which survival is dependent on might?

This is not clever.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:30 PM (2b4yb)


Consider the source.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (GEICT)

59 This was Microsoft. The evil empire. I have based my computing life on hatred of this company. I don't know what to do!

It's a trap!

Posted by: admiral ackbar at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (QupBk)

60 The military scenario appears in the July 25, 2012 issue of the respected Small Wars Journal and posits that, while Obama will be thrown out of office in 2012, ten years of race- and immigrant-bashing by "right-wing demagogues" will have whipped white Americans into gang-like attacks on non-whites.
Then, in a carefully planned operation, a Tea Party-inspired militia occupies the city hall in Darlington, South Carolina, disbands the city council, detains the mayor, and disarms the local police and/or "turns" policemen to its cause. The story continues:
With Darlington under their control, militia members quickly move beyond the city limits to establish 'check points' -- in reality, something more like choke points -- on major transportation lines. Traffic on ... [major roads] and commercial and passenger rail lines are stopped and searched, allegedly for 'illegal aliens.' Citizens who complain are immediately detained. Activists also collect 'tolls' from drivers, ostensibly to maintain public schools and various city and county programs, but evidence suggests the money is actually going toward quickly increasing stores of heavy weapons and ammunition. They also take over the town web site and use social media sites to get their message out unrestricted[.] ...
The article goes on to explain how true Americans will expect the military to efficiently kill, dissuade, and demoralize the "enemy" as effectively "as if it were acting overseas."

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (6o4Fb)

61 Posted by: Terry at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (nyxv/)

But who's going to feed us and mow our lawns?

Posted by: Northeastern liberal at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (2b4yb)

62 51 Steevy,

I went over it the other week....

long story short it is retarded, slightly longer version....

Yes Barack would allow looser ROE here, no it wouldn't matter....

unless giggles unleashes Fort Detrick or the Candles we win....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (LRFds)

63
Ah, yes, the great "undecided" voters!

The wretched gene pool from which are selected "Luntz's Dunces" who will offer up their earnest assessments of how the candidates did during the upcoming debates.

Dumber and less informed than any box of rocks, but desirous of being courted, because "they matter".

A pox on them and their descendants...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (HmCnI)

64 I've been in FL since the mid 80's. There really is less overt racism in the south than in the north. The most flagrant racist remarks I hear are from the recent northeast transplants.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (TDoFs)

65 "Have you ever tasted a pine tree? Several parts are edible"

Shit, I remember Euwell Gibbons.

Shit....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (z/0ZY)

66 60
The military scenario appears in the July 25, 2012 issue of the
respected Small Wars Journal and posits that, while Obama will be thrown
out of office in 2012, ten years of race- and immigrant-bashing by
"right-wing demagogues" will have whipped white Americans into gang-like
attacks on non-whites.


What the hell? Doesn't seem like that "respected" tag is going to last.

Posted by: Splunge at August 22, 2012 10:34 PM (2IW5Q)

67 Meh. If it wasn't for a few key applications, I'd dump Windows for Ubuntu completely.

Now that Valve is porting their games to Linux, I'm one step closer to jumping.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 10:34 PM (MrM2k)

68 Young Teddy looks like he is wearing a collander on his head. Also, there is not a place on earth, or North America, than Boston Massachusetts.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:34 PM (jucos)

69 Chuck Thompson can go fucking DIAF and I've spent my whole life in the NE.What a POS.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:34 PM (6o4Fb)

70 66 Go read it,you will get angry,very angry.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:35 PM (6o4Fb)

71 66 splunge, it is AWC grad lib wank porn....

basically the guy says we tea partiers cut a deal with the KKJJK and start rioting and take "1 town"....

"how do you respond without blowing up SC"?

well don't forget colonel how do *I* respond as your opfor?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:35 PM (LRFds)

72 Oh man Manos. The best part for me was when Tom Servo started crying.

Those knees! What's inside those knees?!?!

Posted by: Joel at August 22, 2012 10:36 PM (opLk0)

73 What Chuck Thompson clearly doesn't understand is that it isn't just a North/South thing, but it's more an Urban/Rural thing.

The South would only be too happy to accept his prescription for his imaginary problem. The south would also be happy to watch his ass starve in his overpriced Manhattan apartment.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 22, 2012 10:36 PM (eoedh)

74 "Consider the source."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (GEICT)

I believe that the left expects the traditional concept of the proletariat to rise against the 1%. They seem to assume that the typical middle class American hates Wall Street and just can't wait to rampage through the streets killing the rich.

They don't seem to get that most middle class Americans {b]WANT to be rich.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:36 PM (2b4yb)

75
former Maxim editor

Oh, yeah, a staffer for the"Under-18 Playboy" demographic group. Deep thinker, no doubt.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 10:36 PM (HmCnI)

76 Young Teddy looks like he is wearing a collander on his head. Also, there is not a place on earth, or North America, than Boston Massachusetts.
--------------------------------------------------
I meant to say there is not a place on earth more racist than Boston.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (jucos)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (2b4yb)

78 I haven't spent much time outside of Texas (a short, ill-advised stint in San Francisco because 19 year olds are idiots) but my husband travels all over the country and swears Boston is the most racist city he's ever set foot in. He appears sort of racially ambiguous to strangers (half-Chamorro half some sort of whitish) and says he's never heard the N-word in Boston but has heard every other slur for every other race imaginable.

But, then, what do I know? I say y'all so I must be stupid.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (FIYvq)

79 Also, there is not a place on earth, or North America, than Boston Massachusetts.

How's that again in english?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (opLk0)

80 73 BTW,

imagine a US unburdened by the city rot....

free to tap industry and choked EPA energy access to renew our drive to a better tomorrow.....

yeah go ahead Libs offer a divorce...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (LRFds)

81 Posted by: Moonbeam at August 22, 2012 10:32 PM (1k4dd)
Was that "Name that Tune"?

Posted by: Stateless_Infidel at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (8UijS)

82 I'm far from a conspiracy nut but the trajectory of the rhetoric from this Admin,not to mention their behavior,gives me pause.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (6o4Fb)

83 Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (jucos)

The San Francisco Bay Area will give Boston a run for its money.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:38 PM (2b4yb)

84 Most of what people blamed MS for being evil about was actually their competition being incredibly inept and/or short sighted.

MS plays the long game, which most of their competition never did.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:38 PM (TDoFs)

85
so if the south secedes, do have to give their women back?
****looks around****
please?

ugggh, beast is home and plugging in
any requests?

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:38 PM (Shrag)

86 I recommend that we not seize any towns, and if we do, for heaven's sake don't let the mayor keep his phone.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:38 PM (QupBk)

87 82 Steevy,

in the sandboxes the US Army using 66% of its strength cannot contain 250,000 insurgents....

do some math(not being an asshole)

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:38 PM (LRFds)

88 "Have you ever tasted a pine tree? Several parts are edible"

Shit, I remember Euwell Gibbons.

Shit....
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (z/0ZY)

He didn't chomp on just pine trees. He'd turn over a rock, spot a wiggling slug thing, and pop it in his mouth.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 10:39 PM (Wp4rQ)

89 86 Toby,

no don't seize shit and you want him to call....

you leave a note in the mayors' office....

"I am not your enemy"


then leave

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:39 PM (LRFds)

90 I believe that the left expects the traditional concept of the proletariat to rise against the 1%. They seem to assume that the typical middle class American hates Wall Street and just can't wait to rampage through the streets killing the rich.

They don't seem to get that most middle class Americans {b]WANT to be rich.


They don't seem to understand the overlap in "classes." Upper lower middle class, middle class and lower upper class have more in common than a lot of people realize.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:39 PM (GEICT)

91 Jenny - You're husband is correct. I lived in Boston for a year. The most racist and bigoted place I've ever seen.

But then, they hate anyone who didn't grow up there.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:40 PM (dX4hn)

92 Most of what people blamed MS for being evil about was actually their competition being incredibly inept and/or short sighted.

Strange. I lived through those years and what I remember best was MS stealing other people's shit and then using the long lag times in the court system to effectively bankrupt them. Anyone remember Stac Industries?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at August 22, 2012 10:40 PM (opLk0)

93 Please don't throw us in that briar patch, Brer Chuck.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 22, 2012 10:40 PM (xCNVC)

94 Sure , let's split the country up .
But I'll have to insist on icefree Pacific access .
We'll take Oregon and Alaska , ya'll can have Ca. and Washington .

Posted by: awkward davies at August 22, 2012 10:40 PM (Jp1VY)

95 I meant to say there is not a place on earth more racist than Boston.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM (jucos)

Truth.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (Wp4rQ)

96 87 Oh,it's not the tactical aspect that bothers me,it's their view of conservative Americans.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (6o4Fb)

97 On the first page, the author wonders why the American electoral system must be "held hostage by a coalition of bought-and-paid-for political swamp scum from the most uneducated, morbidly obese, racist, morally indigent, xenophobic, socially stunted, and generally ass-backwards part of the country."

Yes, it would be so much better if New York City, Chicago, and the California coast completely dominated the entire country.

Posted by: rickl at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (sdi6R)

98 90 Bcochran,

the *only* thing that worries me on a long timeline after HOPIUM runs its course is *why*?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (LRFds)

99 Boston is the most racist city he's ever set foot in

Perhaps. I did 9 months in Cambridge on a contract a few years ago, and lived in Brookline and Newton for a few years in the early 80's. MA can be pretty bad.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (TDoFs)

100 I don't know what to do!


Drink. Remember the Moron Way, when in doubt, drink.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (Gk3SS)

101 Wouldn't it be funny if Issac entered the Atlantic and made a bee-line towards Charlotte, just in time for the Democrat Convention? As in "ha ha".

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (BVkEs)

102 "He is outraged, for example, to discover the close proximity of poor
black and middle-class white neighborhoods in Southern cities."

I suggest that Thompson go stand at the corner of Broadway and Castleview Terrace on Chicago's north side. Castleview was the street on which that noted lefty Studs Terkel lived: it's part of the aptly-named Gold Coast. Turn the corner onto to Broadway, and within a few strides you have walked from the top of America's economic ladder to the bottom. But that doesn't fit his prejudices, so the asshole won't even look.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 22, 2012 10:42 PM (QH2aR)

103 Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:40 PM (dX4hn)

And for Christ's sake! They're Red Sox fans!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:42 PM (2b4yb)

104 "Isaac". Good grief.

Posted by: Craig Poe at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (BVkEs)

105 96 Steevy,

they'd lose 30-40% of their combat arms in a month....

they hate us, I know they do they know they do, the officer corps knows they do, but Barack is not smart enough to win in the dirt......he sure as hell won't win here....

all he'll do is spill a lot of blood.

God forbid that it happens.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (LRFds)

106 Even more racist than OIHO?

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (0CiTm)

107 I believe we should be doing everything we can do to establish the concept that the South is a horrible place and that no self-respecting Northerner should ever set foot down here or think of living in such a hellish portion of a misbegotten country. City life is the only civilized life.

Posted by: Hrothgar unhinged for Romney/Ryan 2012 at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (Cnqmv)

108 64 I've been in FL since the mid 80's. There really is less overt racism in the south than in the north. The most flagrant racist remarks I hear are from the recent northeast transplants.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (TDoFs)


The dirty little truth. When I transplanted myself years ago, same thing. By far, the most racist individuals are consistently Chicago transplants.

By far.

...and we hate them for about the first ten years we know them. It always:

"Oh, but in Chi-caah-go....blah, blah, blah..."[i/]

Fuck you. Go back. I was born there. Fuck you. Go back. This is Southern Illinois. We don't Chi-caaaaah-go here.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (z/0ZY)

109 Only 3 of the 14 race riots since 1980 have occurred in the South. (2 in Florida and 1 in Tennessee)

The majority of the others have occurred in the progressive environs of NY, Boston, LA and Detroit.

Fuck you Chuck Thompson, FUCK YOU!!

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (DWgdc)

110 I'm far from a conspiracy nut but the trajectory of the rhetoric from this Admin,not to mention their behavior,gives me pause.
Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:37 PM


Case in point: Why does NOAA need hollowpoints?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (JMmQ9)

111 What can I say, Maet. One of the ONT in months. Teddy is creeping me out, though.

Posted by: Confederate Scandi at August 22, 2012 10:44 PM (lN2Mc)

112

P.J. O'Rourkethought he was quite the jolly joker withthe "Letters to the Editor" at Car and Driver ... but the letters originated with me. They were the origin of what you now call "sock-puppetry"

Posted by: Yuri Andropov, Cadillac Ranch, Irkutsk at August 22, 2012 10:44 PM (QmKg2)

113 Remember the violence in Boston was EPIC when school busing was forced upon them. The racism is overt and in your face. It was rather disconcerting to me.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:44 PM (jucos)

114 All those nice multi-million dollar brownstones along central park? Go a few blocks west towards the Hudson and you can get gutted like a hog for a pack of gum.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (TDoFs)

115 I am very proud of the fact that I never went to Fenway while I lived there.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (dX4hn)

116

Drink. Remember the Moron Way, when in doubt, drink
bewbs.


FIFY

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (GEICT)

117 Only 3 of the 14 race riots since 1980 have occurred in the South. (2 in Florida


Unless you are talking about the panhandle, Florida is not the South. Florida is North Jersey.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (Gk3SS)

118 Microsoft's strategy was:

1)embrace
You "embrace" the new standard! Standards are good, yay!

2)extend
Oh, btw, here's some really nice extensions we're going to unilaterally add.

3)extinguish
Good luck figuring out how to perfectly copy our extensions. Suckers. Guess everyone will have to use our formats now!

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (MrM2k)

119 I'd say Oakland would probably give Boston a run for their money.

Posted by: KG at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (IPz9m)

120 when in doubt, drink.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (Gk3SS)


My credo. The nuns never liked it much, but that sacramental wine got me through 6th grade.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (z/0ZY)

121
108 By far, the most racist individuals are consistently Chicago transplants.

Hey!!!! i'm right here!

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:46 PM (Shrag)

122 Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 22, 2012 10:41 PM (Gk3SS)

I should have been more precise.

"In addition to drinking heavily today, because the sun rose in the East, what am I to do about this odd change in the fabric of the universe?"

My drink tonight was an excellent caipirinha. And another. Because it would have been rude to drink only one.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 10:46 PM (2b4yb)

123 Lived for six years in the western suburbs of Chicago. A whiter, more racist place you'll never find. Neighbors used to mock my husbands slight southern accent. "Oh look, yawwwwwl, the Georgians are heah.....let's all talk like we have mush in our mouths."

That was actually said at an elementary school fundraiser we helped with.

My husband was more educated and successful than anyone in the damned room.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:46 PM (UOM48)

124 Why does NOAA need hollowpoints?

Because using ball ammo in a security guard's role can be shown to be reckless endangerment of bystanders in a court of law.

Ball ammo is notorious for overpenetration.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (TDoFs)

125 My husband was more educated and successful than anyone in the damned room.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:46 PM (UOM4
=============================
Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (jucos)

126 110 Alton Jackson,

they have a swat team...

so does HUD look I agree it is crazy, but I am 85% certain he sulks pouts screams and leaves

at the end of the day they have a lot more to lose than we do....

a team of 96 competent marksmen can shut down a municipal grid's highways choking food supplies, most cities have 3-7 days of foodstuffs for a whole metro area....

You try to find the old War Plan Color Code army studies, the one on an insurgency in the US has all kinds of fascinating factoids.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (LRFds)

127 Th Master will be pleased.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (r8w8q)

128 DOS was just bootleg CP/M. Born in sin.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (QupBk)

129
I was born and halfway raised in NYC, the other half in FL and CA, went to college in SC, and have lived in GA for the past 20 years. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to the NE corridor or LA. I know it's not necessarily about North/South as much as it's about urban/rural, but you have to draw the lines somewhere.

If Chuckles and his ilk want a fucking divorce, I'm game. Let's draw up the damn papers and get it over with before we end up killing each other (again).

Either that, or we can return to living under the Federalism the Founders envisioned and let the States offer true alternatives to each other. If Mass wants to be a high tax nanny state - let 'em. If TX wants to be low tax with no social safety net - let 'em.

Posted by: Jaws at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (A3yiq)

130
shit, you guys aren't even close to racism
come to hawaii
we'll show you how racism is done

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (Shrag)

131 "Unless you are talking about the panhandle, Florida is not the South. Florida is North Jersey."

The Space Coast begs to differ.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (dX4hn)

132 124 PA,

also I suspect Holder is cute and driving up ammo costs....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (LRFds)

133 Psst.

If we want to win we gotta out breed them.

Let them abort their future


Posted by: Jake in ID at August 22, 2012 10:49 PM (X92nA)

134 Hell,I have a NY accent,I don't criticize people for their accents.An instance sticks out in my mind,a guy called in to Rush and started out with something,"I'.m not a a stupid guy despite my accent."I was shocked,why would he even say such a thing(he had a drawl but so what?).

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:49 PM (6o4Fb)

135 129 Jaws,

precisely....it is why I always laugh when libs act like we are afriad of no "safety net"....


hey Libs Obama has a noose not a net

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:49 PM (LRFds)

136 @117

1 occurred in Talahassee the other in Miami.

Miami is supposed to be a rather progressive city.

I will now take this opportunity to say:

FUCK YOU CHUCK THOMPSON, FUCK! YOU!

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 10:49 PM (DWgdc)

137 Unless you are talking about the panhandle, Florida is not the South. Florida is North Jersey."

The Space Coast begs to differ.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (dX4hn)
----------------------------------------------------
Jacksonville is NOT Jersey.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 22, 2012 10:49 PM (jucos)

138 You know something that Southerners never say?

"You know, when I retire, I think I'll move up North."

Posted by: Dirty Old Man at August 22, 2012 10:50 PM (qPTE1)

139 Unless you are talking about the panhandle, Florida is not the South. Florida is North Jersey.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 - Feel the burn! at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (Gk3SS)


Not really true. Florida south of Orlando is Cubans and old folks. The panhandle is...interesting. You want full on Neck Florida? Northeast and middle of the state.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:50 PM (GEICT)

140 come to hawaii
we'll show you how racism is done


So I hear. Brother928 moved back to the mainland because it was so bad, as were the schools.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:50 PM (QupBk)

141 I'm only guessing not really knowing Mr. Thompsons actual politics but I'd bet his most assuredly liberal stance on border security would change if his wish of a separate south were ever realized.

Posted by: catmman at August 22, 2012 10:51 PM (C8XlI)

142 Ther hollowpoint doesn't bother me,it's the quantity.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:51 PM (6o4Fb)

143 He didn't chomp on just pine trees. He'd turn over a rock, spot a wiggling slug thing, and pop it in his mouth.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 10:39 PM (Wp4rQ)


Johnny Carson did a funny bit on him once:

"Did you know most picnic tables are edible?"

....then munched on one.

Shit. I remember Johnny Carson.

Shit.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 10:51 PM (z/0ZY)

144 123
Lived for six years in the western suburbs of Chicago. A whiter, more
racist place you'll never find. Neighbors used to mock my husbands
slight southern accent. "Oh look, yawwwwwl, the Georgians are
heah.....let's all talk like we have mush in our mouths."
That was actually said at an elementary school fundraiser we helped with.
My husband was more educated and successful than anyone in the damned room.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:46 PM (UOM4


Their contempt for anyone living to the north of them is equally strong. Chicagoans ruined the western Michigan lakeside town where my sister once lived - she bailed out a decade ago.
That contempt is largely true of all denizens of large cities in the Midwest. When they lower themselves to come out among the hoi polloi, they are granting US a great boon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 10:51 PM (HmCnI)

145 That Guardian broad should simply STFU and perform a 40th-ish trimester abortion on herself and save us all the sanctimonious whining.

Having recently transplanted from NYC to the deep south, I have some thoughts in the matter. Some striking differences. Actually had a colleague say the following: "you northerners love the race but hate the people, but we down here love the people, but hate the race." Still trying to figure out why one would be better than the other.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at August 22, 2012 10:51 PM (Tlo57)

146 Hey remember in 2004 when we were all "United States of Canada vs. Jesusland," "FUCK MIDDLE AMERICA" and then in 2008 we were all "we're in dis 2gether

btw we would've been nicer to Middle Amurrica but you Mitch McConnell meanies tried to bring down Our Black Savior

Posted by: Libruls in 2004 and 2008 at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (8HhF2)

147 5 of the 14 occurred in California (Oakland, Fontana?, 3 LA)

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (DWgdc)

148 I have to admit, even I'm prejudiced against southern drawl.

I grew up in the north, so we're quite bigoted against southerners in general.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (MrM2k)

149
138 You know something that Southerners never say?
"You know, when I retire, I think I'll move up North."

to add "crap, i own too many guns"

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (Shrag)

150 142 Steevy,

and there's some validity to that, BUT it keeps....

I shoot ammo from '77 in my wife's AR-15 carbine...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (LRFds)

151 @138

Thread winner

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (DWgdc)

152 If Chuckie Thompson had done a little fact checkin', he'd find out that the KKK is a joke in the South, it's the Rust Belt that they find new members and sympathizers

But I guess racial harmony eludes those folk in the South like it does in Los Angeles, Brooklyn, Detroit, Newark, and Chicago.

Elitist pukes like Chuck Thompson and Thomas Frank want to live in Europe, but they hate the individual tax rates there. Besides, it's full of white people who'll lecture you on racism in America and then throw bananas at African soccer players.




Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (wwsoB)

153 Florida's a mix, but there way too many transplants to call it Old South. There are parts, though...

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (0CiTm)

154 My sister had a great story about northerners finding out just how racist they were when they came down south.Sis was a vet student at Mississippi State and had her friend and fellow student from Jersey in the car. Friendmade a habit of remarking about how racist the South was since she was still fairly new and hadn't left campus that much. They stopped at a convenience store in some small MS town that was majority black to get some drinks for the road.

My sis, without a second thought, jumped out of the car to go inside and turned to talk to her friend who was still sitting petrified inside the car.

Sis walks back and says "Aren't you coming in?" Friend says "No." Sis says "Why not?" Friend says "There's nothing but black people in there!"

Needless to say, her friend's sanctimonious northern hectoring ceased after that day.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (eoedh)

155 60
The military scenario appears in the July 25, 2012 issue of the
respected Small Wars Journal and posits that, while Obama will be thrown
out of office in 2012, ten years of race- and immigrant-bashing by
"right-wing demagogues" will have whipped white Americans into gang-like
attacks on non-whites.

Then, in a carefully planned operation, a Tea Party-inspired militia
occupies the city hall in Darlington, South Carolina, disbands the city
council, detains the mayor, and disarms the local police and/or "turns"
policemen to its cause. The story continues:

With Darlington under their control, militia members quickly move
beyond the city limits to establish 'check points' -- in reality,
something more like choke points -- on major transportation lines.
Traffic on ... [major roads] and commercial and passenger rail lines are
stopped and searched, allegedly for 'illegal aliens.' Citizens who
complain are immediately detained. Activists also collect 'tolls' from
drivers, ostensibly to maintain public schools and various city and
county programs, but evidence suggests the money is actually going
toward quickly increasing stores of heavy weapons and ammunition. They
also take over the town web site and use social media sites to get their
message out unrestricted[.] ...

The article goes on to explain how true Americans will expect the
military to efficiently kill, dissuade, and demoralize the "enemy" as
effectively "as if it were acting overseas."

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:33 PM (6o4Fb)

Hell, I always thought it would be Talledega that would spark the revolution.

Posted by: Dale Earnhardt, Jr at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (1grxW)

156 Remember this?If it was just one thing,I'd shrug it off.

To answer some of this, let's go back to 2009, when the Department of Homeland Security prepared its infamous report on right-wing extremism. There, we learned:
Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.
While that report singled out disgruntled military veterans, in a footnote it explained who else is worthy of close scrutiny:
Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (6o4Fb)

157 As a Southerner, I'll be pirating that book shortly to read on my Kindle.

Posted by: Jordan at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (RSG1I)

158 there are more magic uterus worshippers than you realize:
http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147525971#.UDTqAqRp6MA.twitter

Posted by: Avi at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (51xVX)

159 I suggest that Thompson go stand at the corner of Broadway and Castleview Terrace on Chicago's north side. Castleview was the street on which that noted lefty Studs Terkel lived: it's part of the aptly-named Gold Coast. Turn the corner onto to Broadway, and within a few strides you have walked from the top of America's economic ladder to the bottom. But that doesn't fit his prejudices, so the asshole won't even look.

Posted by: Brown Line at August 22, 2012 10:42 PM (QH2aR)


Years ago I ended up working in Chicago on a long-term contract and was looking for place to live. And pretty much all my co-workers - even black ones - told me that as a person of pallor I should never consider a place east of street X or south of Y. There was basically just a safe-zone rectangle where racism wouldn't result in my premature demise.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (pAlYe)

160 Case in point: Why does NOAA need hollowpoints?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2012 10:43 PM (JMmQ9)


Shooting butterfly's of course

Posted by: Nuage Fractal at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (sZTYJ)

161 Little known fact I learned a few weeks back. You know where the term "cracker" came from? Florida has always been the largest beef producer in the US. But here the cattle are allowed to roam free until round up time. Crackers were the cowboys using their whips to herd the cattle.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (dX4hn)

162 "Florida's a mix, but there way too many transplants to call it Old South. There are parts, though..."

The farther north you go, the farther south you get.

Posted by: Jordan at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (RSG1I)

163 What a perfect cover for that book - all the things Chuck wants to do away with. Guns. Trucks. Religion. And of course, the champion of all those evils, Republicans.

Give him credit, he is honest about his likes and dislikes. Bless his heart.

Posted by: BetaPhi at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (CFuLv)

164 OK. But our XM stations will only play music that was conceived south of the Mason-Dixon.

So, no Blues, Jazz, Country or Rock and Roll for the folks in "The Good Peoplestan".

In other words, they get to keep their NPR.

Posted by: Indonesia Jones and the Temple of Choom at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (KZi9D)

165
>>If you know Brittni, you know she's an empathetic loving, loyal person,”

"who pulls a train like a Portland Western 2303.", he added.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (r8w8q)

166
144 HEY!!! i'm right here!!
damn you haters

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (Shrag)

167 I haven't traveled outside the area in quite a while, so it's hard to compare. I don't see the rampant racism. Not arguing with anyone, it just doesn't jump out at me.


The provincialism, on the other hand, is pea-soup thick. A lot of people around here are rather taken with themselves for living in such an enlightened place. They don't stop to ponder that 'The Athens of America' elected Mumbles Menino to 5 terms in office.

Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (z9HTb)

168 Bullets here! Get your bullets here! Get your real live bullets here.....

Posted by: Bullet Barker at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (BVkEs)

169 The Darlington scenario...That should have occurred when Nascar moved the Southern 500 from Labor Day weekend.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (HiKk0)

170 Drink. Remember the Moron Way, when in doubt, drink.

And porn.....don't forget the porn.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (wEPzS)

171 151 @138

Thread winner

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (DWgdc)

--Agreed.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (xVrjf)

172 156 steevy,

yeah we know....the wife and I are both dom ters....hi Jan but neither of us are armed psycho sorority serial harassers....

they hate us, they are from a system that kills millions, AND Obama's educational mentor is on record saying "25 million dead capitalists sounds dandy"....

what can we do?

be wideawake

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (LRFds)

173 Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:52 PM (Shrag)



Or, "I don't need a truck!"

Posted by: Hrothgar unhinged for Romney/Ryan 2012 at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (Cnqmv)

174 DOS was just bootleg CP/M. Born in sin.

Not really. DOS kinda mimic's some of the low number Int21 FCB call functionality for porting ease reasons, but the guts of the systems were quite different.

IBM actually looked into getting in bed with DRI when the MS relationship was strained, but the DR-DOS code base was such an incompatible mess it didn't work out.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (TDoFs)

175 We need to be the party that appeals to WHITE TRASH with Confederate flags on their pickup trucks. You hear that WHITE TRASH?

Posted by: Doctor Dean Strategery at August 22, 2012 10:55 PM (8HhF2)

176 Air conditioning changed the South. In my earliest memories, the only places that had A/C in our town was the movie theater and a couple of grocery stores. Even banks and department stores just had big ceiling fans.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:56 PM (QupBk)

177 The picture of Eddie Haskell ... with appropriate text, looks like a potential substitute/extension forselected events where theFlaming Skull is used.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2012 10:56 PM (QmKg2)

178 161 Interesting.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 10:56 PM (6o4Fb)

179 @117

uh, some of us southerners probably would take issue with the true "south" being identified with the type of culture represented in the floridian panhandle...

we have real educations and real cities down here, too, y'know...we're not all a bunch of bass-ackwards redneck farmers.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 10:57 PM (79EF9)

180 IBM actually looked into getting in bed with DRI when the MS relationship was strained, but the DR-DOS code base was such an incompatible mess it didn't work out.

If I remember correctly, it was a licensing dispute that killed the deal.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:58 PM (QupBk)

181 While we were living in Chicagoland, my husband took three of his biggest clients to play the Bobby Jones Golf Trail in Alabama.

The very first day they started with the "n" word. He pulled the car off the road at one point and said, "Look guys. You're in the South. We get along down here and we never, ever use that word. Okay?"


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:58 PM (UOM48)

182
175 psssssst
white trash vote democrat cause they are all on welfare

thank you for playing and no you don't get a fucking toaster

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:58 PM (Shrag)

183
Traffic on ... [major roads] and commercial and passenger rail lines are

stopped and searched, allegedly for 'illegal aliens.'


Hell, and to think I lived in SC for over five years and never dreamed that Darlington was the choke-em-dead nexus of all travel in the Southeast!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (HmCnI)

184 I live in a small town in the Texas Panhandle with a lot of Spanish speakers who complain about not being able to understand the Somalians and the Burmese when they converse among themselves. I just laugh.

Posted by: huerfano at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (bAGA/)

185 Thank you Mr. Thompson. A beautiful and perfect summary of the South.

Just for starters, their welfare and unemployment benefits are draconian and heartless. Not a drug rehab, PP clinic or LBGT resource center anywhere to be found. ...and they're damn near Nazis when it comes to their treatment of undocumented Americans. When you throw in the fact everyone is armed to the teeth and halfway into a bottle of Jack by noon, it's only a matter of time until they all kill each other.


Why anyone would ever even dream of leaving the North or the West coast and moving to this hellhole is a complete mystery.

Posted by: Icedog at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (PTS+l)

186 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 10:58 PM (UOM4


Word on the home bound hero?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (GEICT)

187 True Story. Everything I know about hating southerners I learned from Bugs Bunny.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (r8w8q)

188 Posted by: Avi at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (51xVX)

Dude, take it down site somewhere.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (QupBk)

189 fluffy - You know what annoyed me the most in Mass? Every story on the local news included the phrase "the Boston connection".

I couldn't figure out if they were self absorbed or insecure.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (dX4hn)

190 Everyone knows that the South is raaacist! When those evil Repuglicans started the civil war to keep their slavery and oppress Africans and stuff, the Progressive vanguard rose up and defeated them, but then the Repuglican actor named Ronald Reagan shot Abraham Lincoln who was also an African and they all oppressed the poor, womyn, and gays!

Posted by: Howard Zinn at August 22, 2012 11:00 PM (sZTYJ)

191
181 real chicagoians don't use the n word
we call them jigaboos

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:00 PM (Shrag)

192 BCochran1981, he's back at his duty station. Twenty pounds lighter.

Thanks for asking! He'll be home on leave in a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:00 PM (UOM48)

193
>>no you don't get a fucking toaster

That's a dual input sex-box to a redneck.

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 11:00 PM (r8w8q)

194 161 Little known fact I learned a few weeks back. You know where the term "cracker" came from? Florida has always been the largest beef producer in the US. But here the cattle are allowed to roam free until round up time. Crackers were the cowboys using their whips to herd the cattle.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:53 PM (dX4hn)

-No, it originated in England Back in the Day (same with "redneck" and "hick").

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2012 11:01 PM (xVrjf)

195 "shit, you guys aren't even close to racismcome to hawaiiwe'll show you how racism is done

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (Shrag)"


Whaddayou mean "we" haole?

Posted by: Waimanalo Unity Club at August 22, 2012 11:01 PM (eoedh)

196 Lynn Beisner and Anna Breslaw need to be locked in the same room for at least one cycle.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 22, 2012 11:01 PM (QjSgY)

197 I couldn't figure out if they were self absorbed or insecure.

Both.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Former Masshole at August 22, 2012 11:01 PM (wEPzS)

198 Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:58 PM (QupBk)

I was a beta tester for a huge system my old employer built on OS2. I actually liked it a lot; the mouse commands were duplicated in keystrokes, and that helped our system tremendously. We had all sorts of IBM corporate pukes in our facility for weeks (probably one of you assholes).

We talked shit about them, but they knew what they were doing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 11:01 PM (2b4yb)

199 Posted by: Howard Zinn at August 22, 2012 11:00 PM

Howard, I am grateful to you. You taught me an important lesson.

Anything that follows the word "People's" is a lie.

Posted by: Splunge at August 22, 2012 11:02 PM (2IW5Q)

200 would any self respecting Southerner claim Todd Akin?

Posted by: Avi at August 22, 2012 11:02 PM (51xVX)

201 '"Look guys. You're in the South. We get along down here and we never, ever use that word. Okay?"'

I grew up in Birmingham, Alabama. I hear that word more in Colorado than I did there. Southerners, for the most part, are mortified by the idea of appearing racist and do not use language like the n-word.

Posted by: Jordan at August 22, 2012 11:02 PM (RSG1I)

202 shit, you guys aren't even close to racism
come to hawaii
we'll show you how racism is done


I've always heard that. It occurred to me that the only real racism that Obama may have ever personally experienced was likely from Indonesians and native Hawaiians.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 22, 2012 11:02 PM (T0NGe)

203 I couldn't figure out if they were self absorbed or insecure.

or both

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2012 11:02 PM (JMmQ9)

204 Whaddayou mean "we" fucking haole?

You forgot the standard island modifier.

FIFY

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:03 PM (wEPzS)

205 I grew up in New Orleans. My family's white, and we lived next door to a black family, so I guess that means RACISM. It was only when I moved up North that I saw segregated neighborhoods. I guess this means segregation is non-RACISM since they do it in the North but not the South.

The other thing I saw for the first time in the North was entire towns full of nothing but white people. We didn't have that in the South. Any given town in any Southern state has both black and white people (and probably a bunch of Mexicans, too). So now I know that all-Aryan towns are non-RACISM because that's a Yankee thing, but towns with a mix of different people are RACISM.

I went to school with black kids, asian kids (including some south Asians, a rarity in those days in the US), and a multiracial girl. That was in the South in the 1970s-80s. Thirty years later my kids are in school in Massachusetts with nothing but white kids. So all-white schools are non-RACISM, and schools with kids of all colors are RACISM. Who knew? We could have saved all that bother about school desegregation back in the 1950s if we'd just had this guy's wisdom to guide us.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 22, 2012 11:03 PM (mkv9V)

206 192 BCochran1981, he's back at his duty station. Twenty pounds lighter.

Thanks for asking! He'll be home on leave in a couple of weeks.


Glad to hear it! And I'm sure that you'll be able to help with that weight.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 11:03 PM (GEICT)

207
Having once had a NYC accent which has long since been washed out by SoCal surferspeak and a midsouth drawl, I have to say that a thick NY/Jersey/Baaaahsten brogue sounds just as retarded (if not more so) than the most backwoods trailerpark drawl.

Northeastern libs have nothing on Palistinians when it comes to projecting their own shortcomings on others.

Posted by: Jaws at August 22, 2012 11:04 PM (A3yiq)

208 129
I was born and halfway raised in NYC, the other half in FL and CA, went to college in SC, and have lived in GA for the past 20 years. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to the NE corridor or LA. I know it's not necessarily about North/South as much as it's about urban/rural, but you have to draw the lines somewhere.

If Chuckles and his ilk want a fucking divorce, I'm game. Let's draw up the damn papers and get it over with before we end up killing each other (again).

Either that, or we can return to living under the Federalism the Founders envisioned and let the States offer true alternatives to each other. If Mass wants to be a high tax nanny state - let 'em. If TX wants to be low tax with no social safety net - let 'em.
Posted by: Jaws at August 22, 2012 10:48 PM (A3yiq)


Wouldn't bother me in the slightest. We're sitting on two or three Saudi Arabia's in coal down here.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:05 PM (z/0ZY)

209 As we all know, every post-1964 Republican presidential victory was the result of racism. No reasonable person could have opposed the flawless Democratic Party of George McGovern for example.

my black wife informz me on these matters

Posted by: Paul Krugman at August 22, 2012 11:05 PM (8HhF2)

210 The part of NJ I grew up in would horrify Chucky, and it's 50 miles from NYC

James Carville has called Pennsylvania "Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between". He's not that far off.

I think if Thompson spent a weekend in Upstate NY apart from his fellow lefties, he'd be horrified at the attitude and manners of the locals there too

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2012 11:05 PM (wwsoB)

211
193 i'm going have to use that line on T sometime
if she kills me i'm going to haunt your happy ass

btw, navycoplette is pounding out heaven sent by dokken now (using my pacer, lighter than the esp)
she's doing the guitar and vocals for her first talent show

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:05 PM (Shrag)

212 115 I am very proud of the fact that I never went to Fenway while I lived there.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 22, 2012 10:45 PM (dX4hn)

Gla you stayed away, Dave. More Fenway franks for the rest of us! Bless your heart.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at August 22, 2012 11:06 PM (Tlo57)

213 208 98zjUSMC,

and if they're giving you up to Ohio, Illinois et al.....

yeah in a heartbeat....shale potential....

yessir.

You mean I get the refineries and the petrobucks?

See ya Berkeley

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:06 PM (LRFds)

214 As for that stupid limey bitch.Go find a tall building or bridge you dumb bitch.Or just go into the NHS for some minor surgery.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:06 PM (6o4Fb)

215 Anything that follows the word "People's" is a lie.

Posted by: Splunge at August 22, 2012 11:02 PM (2IW5Q)


ಠ_ಠ

Posted by: The Rock at August 22, 2012 11:06 PM (sZTYJ)

216 First time I ever experienced northern racism was living on an AFB in Illinois. My little southern mother was being teased and mocked by two other officers' wives who were total bitches. They teased her for her accent and one of them asked her if she ever "owned any darkies." Seriously.

Then the new base chaplain moved in next door to us and he and his wife and two young daughters became close friends of ours.

They were black.

The white officers' wives bitches were livid and wanted the black chaplain off the base. Didn't happen.

I was just a little girl and remember it vividly to this day.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:07 PM (UOM48)

217 Race riot....At the local dirt track we call the Saturday night.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 22, 2012 11:07 PM (HiKk0)

218 I live in Jackson, MS. If there is one thing every single white person knows it is that you absolutely, positively cannot appear racist in public. Can't do it. You get some bitching in private about black crime, the welfare state, that sort of thing. But overt, vocal racism? Forget about it. The price is just too damned high.

Now, when I lived in DC for school? Yeah, all sorts of naked hostility there.

Posted by: andrew at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (65QIv)

219 "The farther north you go, the farther south you get.

Posted by: Jordan at August 22, 2012 10:54 PM (RSG1I)"



You ain't lyin.

Posted by: Jacksonville, Florgia at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (eoedh)

220
Hell, and to think I lived in SC for over five
years and never dreamed that Darlington was the choke-em-dead nexus of
all travel in the Southeast!


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 10:59 PM (HmCnI)

It would shut down travel to and from Myrtle Beach.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (1grxW)

221 Steevy, I remember a similar scenario where the crisis was home-schoolers taking over a public school and holding people hostage.

Posted by: Mindy at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (UxGCM)

222 Can you guys actually imagine a split? We literally wouldn't have to change a thing in the overall structure. Just actually apply the Constitution. I'm lmao at two countries, side by side, using the same founding documents and basic structure, yet with wildly different results.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (GEICT)

223 Regardless of what Chuck Thompson says, I don't think northerners really hate southerners.

I think we just don't want whatever you're doing down there to be the norm for the entire country. Red states have much poorer health statistics. Alabama leads the country in obesity. Red states have the lowest life expectancy and the highest infant mortality. Higher in teen pregnancies too.

We northerners that are blue states also prefer our racial diversity - It helps while we work to improve the lives of people of all ethnic backgrounds and not just white and christian people like you all do. I guess that's why democrats appeal so much more to people of diverse ethnic backgrounds. Tell me, how the heck did you manage to send only 1 single Jewish person to congress? We have like 35 of them.

So keep doing whatever you're doing. Its cool. We'll spend our high-tech San Francisco and New York dollars at your Cracker Barrels. No prob. Just please keep your southern stuff in the south. We northerners have a thing called "science" (not sure if you heard of it) and we teach out kids about the facts of evolution. We certainly don't want any creationist insanity poluting our far-superior schools - mm-kay?

Thanks, Carry on, Jeb..

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)

224 You know, I think ultimately Barack Obama may have a positive effect on race relations in the US. He has used the "RACISM!" excuse so often and for such trivial reasons that most white people in the country now just snort derisively when they hear the word. The PC bullshit which has perpetuated racial division far more effectively than any Jim Crow laws may finally fade away with the end of the Age of Obama.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (mkv9V)

225 If I remember correctly, it was a licensing dispute that killed the deal.

The license dispute is what motivated IBM to look at DRI.

MS said the DOS 6.0 compression and memmaker weren't part of DOS and were part of a separate product called "enhanced tools". They actually used the "enhanced tools" nomenclature on the product media to try and make the distinction.

MS withheld functioning code for the compression driver load, so IBM did a clean room reverse engineering of it and contracted with AddStor to make a MS compression interface compatible compression driver. That's what shipped in the 6.1 and 6.3 IBM releases. The IBM DOS 7 release switch to Stacker, but the stacker driver was also moded to use the reverse engineered MS compression driver interface.

The MS interface loaded the compression driver prior to processing config.sys so the compressed drives were visible to subsequent config.sys processing by the DOS kernel/loader. All the prior schemes that had to work without kernel support were a lot clunkier.


Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 11:09 PM (TDoFs)

226
204 You forgot the standard island modifier.
so true
*****warning**** extreme profanity follows
a local in hawaii ordering a beer after work

hey brah, i do can get one fucking heiny, it fucking too fucking hot today and the fucking bitch done no get the fuckingdinnah fucking ready yet

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:09 PM (Shrag)

227 Jimmy Joe (OMG ironic name lol)

most Jews are liberals??? u are insightful.

Posted by: JParker at August 22, 2012 11:09 PM (8HhF2)

228 Jimmy Joe is so dense he bends light.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:10 PM (QupBk)

229 Bless your heart, Jimmy Joe.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:10 PM (UOM48)

230 Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)

Yup, attitude just as provincial as I remember it.

So glad I left Massachusetts.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:10 PM (wEPzS)

231
The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss.


The writer's conclusion is a form of narcisism in itself. Most people are content to just be; to live for the pure joy of living. But the author isn't satisfied with this. Since her life is not extraordinary, she doesn't deserve to live. Idiot.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (DoZD+)

232 223
Regardless of what Chuck Thompson says, I don't think northerners really hate southerners.


I think we just don't want whatever you're doing down there to be
the norm for the entire country. Red states have much poorer health
statistics. Alabama leads the country in obesity. Red states have the
lowest life expectancy and the highest infant mortality. Higher in teen
pregnancies too.


We northerners that are blue states also prefer our racial diversity
- It helps while we work to improve the lives of people of all ethnic
backgrounds and not just white and christian people like you all do. I
guess that's why democrats appeal so much more to people of diverse
ethnic backgrounds. Tell me, how the heck did you manage to send only 1
single Jewish person to congress? We have like 35 of them.


So keep doing whatever you're doing. Its cool. We'll spend our
high-tech San Francisco and New York dollars at your Cracker Barrels. No
prob. Just please keep your southern stuff in the south. We northerners
have a thing called "science" (not sure if you heard of it) and we
teach out kids about the facts of evolution. We certainly don't want any
creationist insanity poluting our far-superior schools - mm-kay?


Thanks, Carry on, Jeb..
Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)


Jeebus, being so chock-full of all that smug, do you ever shit?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (HmCnI)

233 Yeah the south is definitely different. I went to the sturgis rally one year in S dakota, and there were some people from Mississippi in the camp ground. Interesting couple, the wife looked like she would tear the asshole out of an alligator. The people camped out next to them were from Germany, so she greeted them in the middle of the night by cutting their tent lines, pulled down her shorts, and pissed on their tent. Meanwhile, her husband burned a fucking cross in the campground and all but beat the shit out of another dude because he had a black step father. The only reason he even found out he had a black father was because he was acting like a troll gatekeeper on a self proclaimed toll road, and was ASKING people as they passed through what their thoughts were on black Americans.

Yeah...um... that was pretty enlightening. These people actually do exist.

Posted by: Berserker at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (FMbng)

234
223 I don't think northerners really hate southerners.
we just want their women.....
wait, the ones with all their teeth

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (Shrag)

235 Thanks, Carry on, Jeb..

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)


Now that is how you perform an effective trolling. Ergie and raykon - I hope you're paying attention here.

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (pAlYe)

236 We don't have any teen pregnancies...well OK we do. We just like to "hide" 'em a little bit.

/broad brush

Posted by: Blue State Morality at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (8HhF2)

237


Re: The Carmelo Anthony post earlier today..


In the year of the 2012 Olympics, there is video of a prominent NBA player
and Obama contributor laughing about throwing his bronze medal in "in a
lake somewhere."





And we can’t make something of that?

Posted by: CJ at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (9G+G5)

238
Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)


Yeah, Detroits doing awesome isn't numbmuts? How soon until The Lions, Tigers and Pistons have stadiums surrounded by nothing but miles of farmland?

Posted by: buzzion at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (GULKT)

239 The first time I ever heard the word n*%@$er I was seven years old and some shit rednecks called my best friend Joey one. I ran home, asked my dad if I could hit someone, ran back to the playground and punched the little fucker in the face.

Joey's dad was a professor of medicine. Shit redneck's dad was not.

I always got a kick out of that.

And in case you didn't guess, it was in the North (of course).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2012 11:12 PM (2b4yb)

240 When Yankees talk about the value of "diversity" they love to blather about "different viewpoints" but in practice what they want is different skin tones and ideological lockstep.

Hey, Jimmy Joe: have you considered that the Blue states send more Jewish politicians to Congress because that's where the Jews live? It's hard to vote for someone who lives in a different state, you brain-dead Yankee.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 22, 2012 11:12 PM (mkv9V)

241 Looks like I should continue to work on my writing project: "A Progressive Case for Splitting Up the United States."

Posted by: Alex at August 22, 2012 11:12 PM (KFBsH)

242 Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)

--Are you Chuckie Thompson's stringer?

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2012 11:13 PM (xVrjf)

243 Jimmy Joe must be Average Joe, who sucks cock by choice, bless his heart

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:13 PM (Dnbau)

244 Yeah, Detroits doing awesome isn't numbmuts? How soon until The Lions, Tigers and Pistons have stadiums surrounded by nothing but miles of farmland

Next Tuesday!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:13 PM (wEPzS)

245 Posted by: Trimegistus at August 22, 2012 11:03 PM (mkv9V)

---------------

Yeah, segregated neighborhoods were a totally alien concept to me, too, for the longest time. A kind of Pollyanna-ish embarrassingly long time. As in: a few years ago when my niece was talking about the integration efforts in her high school (in Milwaukee) it suddenly occurred to me that I could not think of a neighborhood or high school "drawing area" in my own cities that people thought of as belonging to one race or another. Like, did not compute. I knew most schools/neighborhoods had more of one race than another---usually Mexican in my hometown---but the idea of an all-Mexican or white neighborhood really seemed like something you see on TV that doesn't actually happen anymore. Bad neighborhoods and good neighborhoods I could understand, but not "black" and "white" ones.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at August 22, 2012 11:13 PM (FIYvq)

246 Hey, Jimmy Joe, what's the murder rate in Chicago?

Posted by: huerfano at August 22, 2012 11:13 PM (bAGA/)

247 P.S. Jimmy Joe iIf the South sucks so bad, why are so many of you fucking Yankees moving down there and sullying it?

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2012 11:14 PM (xVrjf)

248 242 No,he's his fluffer.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:14 PM (6o4Fb)

249 While Chuck Thompson wallows in his own bigotry and racism, a picture that will traumatize any adult with an IQ above room temperature, home-schooled children, and kangaroos. This was posted on previous threat. Its truly a war crime to show this picture. The inmates at Gitmo started to eat waffles after seeing it. I give you President Obama's Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton channeling Phyllis Diller from about 1969.

http://tinyurl.com/8rhoj9y

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:14 PM (fU0YZ)

250 223 Jimmy Joe,

1) I'm an Ohioan

2) there's newer and more profitable auto manufacturing and tech in the south than the north

3) I prefer any southern Military hospital to any of the non DC Military District ones.

4) "racial diversity"? seriously? Okay you say so Texas, Florida, Louisiana....nm

5) Y'all don't want flyover country and the south to go because California wants to control all the resources, and NYC might have to encourage Michigan to cut their wages and get off their butts so you'd have banking capital.

The south/midwest would eat the coasts lunch in 3 generations unless the "elite" put the unicorn gas down.

put the papers on the table

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:14 PM (LRFds)

251 Brittni got a 5 year sentence:
tinyurl.com/9za23fg



Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 22, 2012 11:14 PM (IN7k+)

252 I don't think we hate the South. We just wish you'd BURN IN HELLLL@R)RT@)(BF#)@W

Posted by: Jimmy Joe reporting from the People's Republic of Obamistan at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (8HhF2)

253 Good evening.

Geoff Tate debuts the title and cover of his new solo album.

http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=8997

Absolutely pathetic.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (HWUv9)

254 MY KID IS VOTING STRATE DEMOCRAT IN HIS FIRST ELECTION. HE WONT LET YOU *SPIT* GODBAG NAZI FUCKS BRING BACK THE SODIMY LAWS!

Posted by: KayInMaine at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (/Aauo)

255 Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)


Sad and disturbing and funny all at the same time.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (Wp4rQ)

256 Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 11:09 PM (TDoFs)

That's not how I remember it at all. When IBM when shopping for an OS for the PC, Microsoft didn't have one. They were a compiler company. CP/M was the dawg for the 8080 chip so IBM went to Digital to get a 8086(?) variant of CP/M.

At least that's how I remember it. I was a 370 guy at the time.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (QupBk)

257 I see Kay is still illiterate

There really is a reason she's a single mom.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:16 PM (wEPzS)

258 We northerners that are blue states also prefer our racial diversity


MAKE ME A MAH-TEENI, YOU FAT, FUCKIN' RETAHD!!!

Posted by: Casey Affleck at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (z9HTb)

259 223 btw, my wife from tennessee, the one with the dba and the jd says to suck her dick

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (Shrag)

260 Jimmy Joe, chill out, have some Copenhagen, do a little reloadin' and contemplate the relative merits gas versus diesel trucks.

Posted by: andrew at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (65QIv)

261 176 Air conditioning changed the South. In my earliest memories, the only places that had A/C in our town was the movie theater and a couple of grocery stores. Even banks and department stores just had big ceiling fans.
Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:56 PM (QupBk)

The ancestral castle up in Mount Prospect. Il never had air up until dad put a window unit in around '68, I think.

Put in Central A/C in....uhhhhhh...' 73?

Being a wee tyke, I was out riding my bike all day and night getting into loads of trouble. Didn't even notice it, really.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (z/0ZY)

262 Remember that racist tv character, Archie Bunker?

Where did he live? Oh ... never mind

Posted by: kbdabear at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (wwsoB)

263 250 bert der bert der burr... unicorns.. whaaa?

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (okvIY)

264
249
http://tinyurl.com/8rhoj9y
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:14 PM (fU0YZ)



Crime against humanity. This is your last warning!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:17 PM (HmCnI)

265 235 Maet,

I reckon....

of course never forget what was said to Grant's Illinois and Ohio boys on the drive to Louisville....

in reply to: "I thought you Southerners said you could each whip 5 of us"

Oh nossir we were talking about them New York boys...

*indeed*

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:18 PM (LRFds)

266 254

dammit, first Akin then they found out our other top priority!!

Posted by: Mitt Romney's Secret Agenda at August 22, 2012 11:18 PM (8HhF2)

267 223
Regardless of what Chuck Thompson says, I don't think northerners really hate southerners.



I think we just don't want whatever you're doing down there to be
the norm for the entire country. Red states have much poorer health
statistics. Alabama leads the country in obesity. Red states have the
lowest life expectancy and the highest infant mortality. Higher in teen
pregnancies too.



We northerners that are blue states also prefer our racial diversity
- It helps while we work to improve the lives of people of all ethnic
backgrounds and not just white and christian people like you all do. I
guess that's why democrats appeal so much more to people of diverse
ethnic backgrounds. Tell me, how the heck did you manage to send only 1
single Jewish person to congress? We have like 35 of them.



So keep doing whatever you're doing. Its cool. We'll spend our
high-tech San Francisco and New York dollars at your Cracker Barrels. No
prob. Just please keep your southern stuff in the south. We northerners
have a thing called "science" (not sure if you heard of it) and we
teach out kids about the facts of evolution. We certainly don't want any
creationist insanity poluting our far-superior schools - mm-kay?



Thanks, Carry on, Jeb..

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)

Atta boy. Tell them whatfor!!!!!

Posted by: Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Oregon at August 22, 2012 11:18 PM (1grxW)

268 Until the advent of insecticide and A/C, Washington DC was a hell hole.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:18 PM (fU0YZ)

269 Kids mostly seem immune to heat and cold.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:18 PM (6o4Fb)

270 Until the advent of insecticide and A/C, Washington DC was a hell hole.

Was???

I live here. Use the present tense please.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (wEPzS)

271
Little girl rockin' out the Dokken is great news, joe. What is it with the kids and the hair metal these days?

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (r8w8q)

272 That yankee asshole can kiss my ass. I moved home to Mississippi 2 years ago from Philadelphia, after 20+ years, and I am SO HAPPY to be back home. I am SO SICK of the racist bullshit I hear from my NE friends I can't even tell you. We actually get along here. They have no idea and I am so sick of the ignorance and bias.

Posted by: magnolia at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (3TW2Q)

273 "Yeah...um... that was pretty enlightening. These people actually do exist.

Posted by: Berserker at August 22, 2012 11:11 PM (FMbng)"


Right, and David Berkowitz, Ed Gein, and Jeffery Dahmer are real enlightening as to what the north produces, right champ?

Posted by: Jacksonville, Florgia at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (eoedh)

274 Hey Krebs I thought my warning was pretty explicit. Your fault for clicking on it after that.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (fU0YZ)

275 Ace, can you hear me?

It's about that last post of yours. Your sixth grade English teacher called, Sister Annunciation?

She wants you to call her.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 22, 2012 11:20 PM (6dNRj)

276 as an ethnic jew, i can speak for those of us who have seen the light: we are awfully embarrassed that most of our brethren have yet to develop the necessary political intuition to cross over to the side which best represents their interests.

in other words, it's mainly a jew problem, not a republican problem. now, the black thing...the hispanic thing...i can see those. but jewish folks who are STILL voting democrat are pretty much voting against their self-interests.

that being said, jimmy joe DOES have a mildly valid point: new england, for example, has the lowest crime rates, the lowest rates of divorce, the best educations, &c., of any region in the country...and it sure isn't because of religion!!!!

they must be doing SOMETHING right -- and i don't mean voting (D)! something about their society and the elevated consciousness has allowed them to really come together and progress in a way that we southerners have not yet been able to progress.

i think maybe it's just that new englanders have figured out how to have adult conversations about hot topics -- not being called a "pussy fag" for expressing an alternate opinion, as is apparently so common with TRUE CONSERVATIVES, does WONDERS for fomenting a sense of community!

there really IS a lot of value in trying to take on other perspectives every once in a while. we are all the centres of our own respective universes, sure...but sometimes trying to see things through another pair of eyes can be surprisingly enlightening.

food for thought!

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:20 PM (79EF9)

277
254
MY KID IS VOTING STRATE DEMOCRAT IN HIS FIRST ELECTION. HE WONT LET YOU *SPIT* GODBAG NAZI FUCKS BRING BACK THE SODIMY LAWS!
Posted by: KayInMaine at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (/Aauo)


ChairScrunt of your skool bord, are you?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:20 PM (HmCnI)

278
Where did he live? Oh ... never mind

Then he moved down South for In the Heat of the Night. No racial tension in that series...

Posted by: garrett at August 22, 2012 11:21 PM (r8w8q)

279 I hope Jimmy Joe doesn't live in the same Norrthern State than I do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 22, 2012 11:21 PM (/f+n8)

280 254 MY KID IS VOTING STRATE DEMOCRAT IN HIS FIRST ELECTION. HE WONT LET YOU *SPIT* GODBAG NAZI FUCKS BRING BACK THE SODIMY LAWS!
Posted by: KayInMaine at August 22, 2012 11:15 PM (/Aauo)


Is this the honest to God drooling infant or is someone sock-puppeting?

I can't tell.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:21 PM (z/0ZY)

281 jimi ray stop being such a pussy fag.

Posted by: The Confederasah at August 22, 2012 11:21 PM (8HhF2)

282 My condolences on that prison sentence Sean. I still remember trying to find Chinatown in DC. All I found was a red torri in a sea of industrial gray. Or was it just all gray. I think I blocked that horrible experience out of my mind.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:21 PM (fU0YZ)

283 I mentioned Chuck Thompson a week or so ago and I'll say again what I said then. I'm fine with the south seceding as long as they agree to take the inhabitants of Atlanta with them.

As for the Guardian writer, someone else commented several days ago that "she loves abortion more than she loves life" and I think that about sums it up. Pretty fucking pathetic IMO and the arguement she uses about keeping people out of poverty is just asking to be turned into a China-esque policy where people who make under a certain amount of money should be forced to abort pregnancies.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 11:21 PM (/YJYi)

284 Is this the honest to God drooling infant or is someone sock-puppeting?

No, that one is the real deal. Click that link and you'll have the confirmation.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:22 PM (wEPzS)

285
We have massive long term unemployment, a lawless executive branch, a DOJ that actively opposes states trying to curb illegal immigration and voter fraud, a runnaway debt problem and all the media and too many Republicans want to talk about is Akin? Pull your head out of your ass RNC!

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:22 PM (JKNDp)

286 Heh - apparently Jimmy Joe is KayinMaine's slightly more coherent brother who's done found us all out. http://minx.cc/?blog=86post=332141#c19176558

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 22, 2012 11:22 PM (pAlYe)

287 Avi something. Avi Normal, I think.

Posted by: Igor at August 22, 2012 11:22 PM (vDl/w)

288
271 i think its us old bastards trying to relive our glory days
and metal was so much better than the crap now
heres a youtube for you and robert about 'the day'
http://tinyurl.com/m46mqt

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:23 PM (Shrag)

289 Abbie Normal?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:23 PM (fU0YZ)

290 276 Jimi Ray,

Yeah really a lot of diversity in thought in the blue coastline....

you have lower crime?

Gee the Mafia might have something to do with that, and the fact that the metro areas have a cop for every what 210 people?

Socialism is poison, rots everything it touches on a long enough timeline.

There's nothing in Blue Country I need.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:23 PM (LRFds)

291
274
Hey Krebs I thought my warning was pretty explicit. Your fault for clicking on it after that.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (fU0YZ)


I read it as being Sir Edmund's namesake "in 1969", not today's Medusa. The shock was... considerable.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:23 PM (HmCnI)

292 She is channeling the Phyllis Diller from 1969...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (fU0YZ)

293 Until the advent of insecticide and A/C, Washington DC was a hell hole.

There is a WPA film about the little town where I lived at one time in Alabama. It was mostly about the wonderful things the Feds were doing with the swamp draining and mosquito control. They casually mentioned that in 1929, the malaria rate in that town was 30%. 30 effin percent. One out of every three people got effin malaria.

Mindboggling.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (QupBk)

294 I think we just don't want whatever you're doing down there to be
the norm for the entire country.

--------------

What, like having jobs? Creating jobs? Building cars and airplanes without unions? Yeah, that puts a real damper on the welfare-getting and the navel-gazing and all that. We'll keep our work ethic away from y'all, sure.

Posted by: Jenny Tries Too Hard at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (FIYvq)

295 My condolences on that prison sentence Sean.

Could be worse. I could be working somewhere other than DoD.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (wEPzS)

296 286 Maet,

I told him/her to ask Larry Flynt in Hustler to reconcile the competing narratives on our right wing sexuality....

I am pretty sure the AoS lifestyle is down with sodomy

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (LRFds)

297 Found this...

Christopher Colleps, Brittni's husband, said that he was working to forgive his wife for what she did. Though the couple had engaged in legal group sex with other adults together, he felt wronged by her actions with her students, he said.


Fuck this guy. $20 says he and her planned it as a thrill, and when she got caught he has to play the wounded husband in order to prevent CPS from getting involved. I feel sorry for the kids: at best they have a father who is a weakling and a fool, or at worst two parents who are scum.

Posted by: Alex at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (KFBsH)

298 Jimmy Joe!
Of courseMexicans African-Americans support Democrats. Minorities in this country would probably starve if not for the selfless devotion and actions of compassionate and progressive Americans such as yourself. It's amazing that in this day and age there are still racist Southerners in this country who continue to spout the same tired rhetoric thatMexicans African-Americans have the intellect, work ethic, and character to succeed "on their own"....without necessary affirmative action programs and mentorship by progressiveAmericans such as yourself.

Without visionary founding Norheners Democrats such as George Wallace, Woodrow Wilson, William Fulbright, Sam Ervin and Al Gore Sr., blacks would still be stuck on plantations.

Posted by: Icedog at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (PTS+l)

299 "In my earliest memories, the only places that had A/C in our town was the movie theater and a couple of grocery stores. Even banks and department stores just had big ceiling fans.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:56 PM (QupBk)"


Was that back when every man wore white suits too?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 22, 2012 11:25 PM (eoedh)

300 So Teddy was apparently a Hobbit.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at August 22, 2012 11:25 PM (6uY89)

301 i think maybe it's just that new englanders have figured out how to have adult conversations about hot topics


Bless your heart.

Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 22, 2012 11:25 PM (z9HTb)

302 Posted by: Igor at August 22, 2012 11:22 PM (vDl/w)

Wasn't that hump on the other side?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:25 PM (wEPzS)

303 I am pretty sure the AoS lifestyle is down with sodomy

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (LRFds)


Wait - are we talking sodomy-sodomy or just old-school sorta naughty sodomy?

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 22, 2012 11:26 PM (pAlYe)

304 i think maybe it's just that new englanders have figured out how to have adult conversations about hot topic

Um, yeah. Think again.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:26 PM (HmCnI)

305 Okay, who's the icedog sockpuppet? No one can actually be that stupid.


Without visionary founding Norheners Democrats such as George Wallace,
Woodrow Wilson, William Fulbright, Sam Ervin and Al Gore Sr., blacks
would still be stuck on plantations.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:26 PM (UOM48)

306 i think maybe it's just that new englanders have figured out how to have adult conversations about hot topics -- not being called a "pussy fag" for expressing an alternate opinion, as is apparently so common with TRUE CONSERVATIVES, does WONDERS for fomenting a sense of community!




whaaa. having recently escaped northern New Jersey I can tell you for sure that North East Progs are for diversity of everything but opinion. I do not recall this civil discourse you speak of

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:27 PM (Dnbau)

307 297 Alex,

I dunno GIs do one of three things when they come home and there is chaos.....

1) ignore it(this guy)

2) go nuts

3)express thanks divorce and run like hell....

what I've seen around Fort Polk anyway

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:27 PM (LRFds)

308 Young Teddy looks like the imam of one of those shittier London mosques. Without a shirt.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 22, 2012 11:27 PM (QTHTd)

309 Just when you thought there could be nobody stupider than Akin:

from his supporter Marygonzo on Freeper:

Akin is now a national hero for courage under witless criticism. He has emerged now as a hero to millions. He will be loved and revered for countless decades as Senator Akin and as a fearless Marine and American for life.
You folks that want to criticize his correct statement — do you want to kill the baby for that alleged “rape” in the back seat? Is that what you want?

WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Avi at August 22, 2012 11:27 PM (51xVX)

310 Working counter-drug in South America was fun because of the State Department's silly rulings. One week we could go see a movie because the place was one of the few buildings with A/C. Then next week State Department would place the theater off limits because they thought the A/C had been bought with drug money. Then a week later, the ban would be lifted. After such experiences my opinion of the State Department has been low and they have never disappointed me in meeting those expectations.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:28 PM (fU0YZ)

311 303 Maet,

well Sodomy in the old coals and shoals military law book covered everything from oral favors to 4th point of contact spelunking.....

so "it's a wide topic" in my parlance

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:28 PM (LRFds)

312 icedog has to be goofing if he thinks Woodrow Wilson was anything but the worst racist ever to hold executive office here, and I include Jefferson Davis in that.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 22, 2012 11:28 PM (QTHTd)

313 i think maybe it's just that new englanders have figured out how to have adult conversations about hot topics -- not being called a "pussy fag" for expressing an alternate opinion, as is apparently so common with TRUE CONSERVATIVES, does WONDERS for fomenting a sense of community!


Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:20 PM (79EF9)

Ha! Not even close. I lived in MA for 50 years, dude.

New Englanders ain't like that.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 11:29 PM (Wp4rQ)

314 They casually mentioned that in 1929, the malaria rate in that town was 30%. 30 effin percent. One out of every three people got effin malaria.

Mindboggling.
Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (QupBk)

--------------------

Sure, yeah, some humans got sick and died of a horrible illness. But the eggshells of eagles were .008 inches thicker! Surely you're not suggesting that it's better to save humans than to save eagles from suffering the fate of a thin eggshell?

Posted by: Rachel Carson, all science-y and shit at August 22, 2012 11:29 PM (FIYvq)

315 304 i think maybe it's just that new englanders have figured out how to have adult conversations about hot topic

Oh! Absolutely! Maine is in New England. Go ahead, ask KayInMaine about that topic.

You might want to wait until the lithium kicks in though.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:29 PM (wEPzS)

316 309 Avi,

am I alone in hoping that's a sock for some Kos tard?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (LRFds)

317 Right, and David Berkowitz, Ed Gein, and Jeffery Dahmer are real enlightening as to what the north produces, right champ?

Posted by: Jacksonville, Florgia at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM


Oh we produce some real fucking retards, no 2 ways about it, way more than the south as far as I'm concerned. My point was that these people were like from a whole different planet. I'm talking like real KKK mofo's from the 1950s or some shit, like they fell out of a time warp. It was like going back in time and meeting people you only read about from history.

Posted by: Berserker at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (FMbng)

318 "GODBAG NAZI FUCKS"

Ok, seriously? That right there is fucking funny.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (eoedh)

319 Hey, Chuck, you wanna talk about better off without 'em? You're talking to a native Californian, who's seen his beloved state fucked up by asshole liberals just like you.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (oX7vY)

320 298

i'm not really into using Dixiecrats to score political points against Democrats because the ideologies and demographics of the two parties have shifted over time. that's not an attempt to say racism is "conservative" in nature or whatever, just that the party of George McGovern and its heirs is not the FDR-LBJ coalition Democratic Party that included George Wallace etc.

the Obama-Pelosicrats got their own set of problems

Posted by: JParker at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (8HhF2)

321 272 That yankee asshole can kiss my ass. I moved home to Mississippi 2 years ago from Philadelphia, after 20+ years, and I am SO HAPPY to be back home. I am SO SICK of the racist bullshit I hear from my NE friends I can't even tell you. We actually get along here. They have no idea and I am so sick of the ignorance and bias.
Posted by: magnolia at August 22, 2012 11:19 PM (3TW2Q)

As a born-n-bred Bahstonian, I agree that the northeast is very racist wrapped in a thin veneer of tolerance. However living in MS myself now, to suggest there is little to no racism here is laughable. Might be less "polite" to express it, but it's definitely there.

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (Tlo57)

322 "The fact of evolution." J.J.: a half-assed theory isn't a fact.

Posted by: CMU VET at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (dPSpR)

323 New Englanders make a good hoagie, I'll grant you that.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (QupBk)

324 312 BH Wilson was arguably the 1st, 2d, or 3d American fascist President....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (LRFds)

325 And I've yet to have a lobster roll in the deep south.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (QupBk)

326 Jimi Ray - watch the movie Idiocracy and notice how all the future idiots always call smart people "fags". It just like the people on this site! Every retort on this site is gay-porn related. Really disgusting.

If you're really conservative, you might want to look into Obama. We're paying the lowest taxes in 30 years right now. He's more conservative than the total screw-up of a miserable failure these Ace readers sent the white house the last time.... I still can't get over what a bad a president these people chose! I mean - WOW! Anyway Ace assures me he knows better now - But mmm I don't know, ya know?

Anyway - nice meeting you and yes you are so right!

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (okvIY)

327 Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:27 PM (LRFds)
That's true, but the guy admitted that they had group sex with other adults. He could be lying, but why?Several of my soldiers got into similar situations anditnever ended well. Like I said, since he's admitting that they weren't monogamous, my sympathy goes to zero. Knowing Joe, I'm pretty sure he knew about it.

When were you at Fort Polk, BTW?

Posted by: Alex at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (KFBsH)

328
Man, I don't know what happened to Hillary. No one could ever call her pretty (Hillary, least of all), but during Willie's term, she dressed verywell (most of the time)and always had nice hair. Not it's as though she's not even trying. In fact, it's as though she's trying to look as bad as possible. Come on, woman, show some self-respect!

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (DoZD+)

329 Ok, seriously? That right there is fucking funny.

If you go read her blog for about, oh, 30 seconds you will see that she is quite mentally ill.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:32 PM (wEPzS)

330 Well I'll stir the pot a bit and say one of the reasons that New England has all of those things is because its one of the regions with the fewest minorities.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 11:32 PM (/YJYi)

331 "Air conditioning changed the South. In my earliest memories, the only places that had A/C in our town was the movie theater and a couple of grocery stores. Even banks and department stores just had big ceiling fans."

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:56 PM (QupBk)

Hotel AC was a big part of the magic of Summer vacations in Florida when I was a kid.Walking into that ice-cold hotelroom after a day-long drive(no car AC either, just vent windows and mom smoking) is something I'll never forget. My sister and I used to crank thathotel AC down to frosty, and mom and dad never objected. Those ceiling fans, especially the wobbly ones, used to alarm me when I was little. I would try to position myself in the space that was not directly under them.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 22, 2012 11:32 PM (QjSgY)

332 I was born in Atlanta and grew up in North FL, north of JAX.
I have lived in Miami Beach (USCG), Fort Pierce, Vero Beach, Columbia, SC., Spencer, IA, and Cheyenne, WY.

Never, and I mean never, have I seen the overt racism I have seen since moving to Chicago.
I never KNEW a person who so casually used the N word, so casually talked of "shines" or "shitheads."

I love Chicago and don't mean to paint with a broad brush. The South has problems just like the NE and the West and the SW and everywhere else.
I don't intend to move again.

But damn, y'all, they RACIST up here.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 22, 2012 11:32 PM (oiTOF)

333 Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (okvIY)

You mad, bro?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (wEPzS)

334 #302 What hump?

BTW, do you know a LauraW?

Posted by: Igor at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (vDl/w)

335 katya, yeah Hillary has come down with a bad case of "I don't giva sh*t anymore"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (fU0YZ)

336 Jimi Ray - [tongue bathing redacted]


Anyway - nice meeting you and yes you are so right!

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM (okvIY)
---
Moby on moby action. Gonna need a scorecard to keep up at this rate.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (+/VIS)

337
Manos MST3K!

My wife and I attended a live-feed RiffTrax show last summer of Joe the Giant Killer...we watched it from a small New Jersey movie theater while on vacation. The original MST shows helped bring us together. Watch out for snakes!

Posted by: CJ at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (9G+G5)

338 Regarding the racism of the south, how many of the white liberals that Chuck Thompson hangs out with live in neighborhoods that have a lot of low income blacks, how many of them send their kids to the same schools with low income blacks.

What I continually point out in discussions about racism and rich fatcats is that, when it comes to every day behavior and contact with the poor and minorities, there is no difference between well to do white liberals and republicans. None.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (DDye+)

339 Sure, yeah, some humans got sick and died of a
horrible illness. But the eggshells of eagles were .008 inches thicker!
Surely you're not suggesting that it's better to save humans than to
save eagles from suffering the fate of a thin eggshell?

Posted by: Rachel Carson, all science-y and shit at August 22, 2012 11:29 PM


Maybe they should have fed the eagles in the study whole fish instead of fish filets and then their shells would have been thicker because of adequate dietary calcium. But, that would not have delivered the desired result of banning DDT. If you want to ban a pesticide, you have to expect a few million deaths in Africa.

Posted by: huerfano at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (bAGA/)

340 don'tcha love how select people like to try and claim Obama as a "conservative" as if it's some brilliant piece of political rhetoric

if he's conservative shouldn't you hate him? yeah i forgot, libs prefer conservatives in the worthless, pseudo-Burkean sense.

Posted by: JParker at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (8HhF2)

341 @290

yeah so i'm not sure what you're talking about, because

1) mafia is NYC and, NYC is not new england;

2) i'm back in texas, where i am from, and i'm goddamn proud of it;

3) for all your railing against the counterproductive socialist police policy being responsible for the lower crime rates (?), there's still the lower divorce rates, better educations, and better senses of community in general in new england to be accounted for; and

4) although i was only in new york, i had lots of friends and colleagues from new england with decidedly liberal political views, and although my views were far less similar to their views than they are to the views of the commentariat here, i *never* was subjected to the sort of childish name-calling that is directed at me on this website.

granted, there's the whole Internet Napoleon syndrome to factor in, but it's still pretty striking to see how true it is that conservative partisans are just an unreasonable as liberal partisans...especially after years of arguing the opposite to my more left-leaning friends up north!

i'm not saying we should import new england POLITICS down here; god, no! i'm just saying we probably have a little bit to learn about treating others with the respect and dignity that should be afforded to any human being who is doing no worse than offering alternative opinions and viewpoints.

anyway, i know if you try really hard, you might be able to get over me, sven! i have faith in you! ♥

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (79EF9)

342 "I'm talking like real KKK mofo's from the 1950s or some shit, like they fell out of a time warp."

Well, the real KKK mofos were from the 20s in Indiana, but hey, the movies always get it right, right?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (eoedh)

343 326 JJ,'


yeah hey champ "we're paying the lowest taxes in 30 years"....

you do not grasp the innate and awesome hilarity of claiming that as a "bragging point" in a "recovery from recession"?

"oops"

the rates are stagnant, revenue is way down because well your jugeared retard gets in the way of business buddy....

hang on a few more months and we'll show you.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (LRFds)

344 Hagbard Celine. There is Shark Week. Then there is Troll Week. Bring your pump-action, extra ammo, and Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (fU0YZ)

345 316 309 Avi,

am I alone in hoping that's a sock for some Kos tard?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:30 PM (LRFds)

I wish , but she and others seem to make Akin look pro choice.
WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!!

Posted by: avi at August 22, 2012 11:35 PM (51xVX)

346 We're paying the lowest taxes in 30 years right now.

Who's this we? And besides which, we are borrowing $3K for every man, women, and child per year, thanks to President Stumblefuck, bless his heart.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:35 PM (QupBk)

347 @330 consider the pot stirred

Posted by: Ezra's Equal at August 22, 2012 11:35 PM (Tlo57)

348 Jimmy Joe

You left out the crystal meth, moonshine, and oxycontin. Yep, we have problems in the red states, and we know exactly what they are. So go ahead and keep those high tech jobs, and we in the energy producing states hope those high tech jobs can keep on keeping on being powered by unicorn farts and Barack's magic light. Oh you didn't know that almost all of your energy comes from those nasty red states? Well they do.

As for you education system, hey we will be more than happy to make sure that none of our students go to your schools, now would you please make sure that your kids don't go to any of ours.

As for us being obese, got us there also. But don't you worry about that, when we stop shipping all of our nasty food to everyone in the blue states, you all will be much thinner, we will be much fatter.

But hey, we in the red states are much more charitable than those in the blue states, so we probably would send some bags of food to all of you. Hell, we will probably even stencil the sides of the bags like the UN does in 3rd world shitholes!

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 22, 2012 11:35 PM (1grxW)

349
332 But damn, y'all, they RACIST up here.
IGNORE THIS POSTER!!!! WHITE SOX FAN!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:36 PM (Shrag)

350 341 Jimi Ray,

so the Patriarca family is in New York?

The Di Meo's?

"yeah ok" and that is just the "mafia" not even counting the ethnic gangs.

You are at AoSHQ not the goddamned National Topsailor stud....

Tell you what like most "Yawkuhs" if it's so dreamy GO HOME.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:37 PM (LRFds)

351 Isn't Chicago the fattest city in the nation now?

God knows I'd believe it.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 22, 2012 11:37 PM (oiTOF)

352 335
katya, yeah Hillary has come down with a bad case of "I don't giva sh*t anymore"
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (fU0YZ)


Or, as I am now saying at work (outta here at month's end!): "My Give-A-Shit-O-Meter has been flat-lined for months...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 22, 2012 11:37 PM (HmCnI)

353 you do know that the whole DDT thing was to kill the darkies right?

cuz, I'm a proud early 20th century progressive like my pal Margaret Sanger who worked on the other side of the problem

Posted by: Rachel Carson at August 22, 2012 11:37 PM (X92nA)

354 349.

As a transplant, I root for both.
That's how you know I'm a transplant.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 22, 2012 11:38 PM (oiTOF)

355 342 BTW,

well that was "peak" you know when about 21% of the nation dabbled in it mostly in the rust belt...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:38 PM (LRFds)

356 Jimi Ray,
I was all onboard with the jewish thing, but you lost me on the NE bit. Care to clarify "NE".....that encompasses a lot of territory.

I just spent the last two years livingright between Baltimore DC (yes,not "NE"), and if you actually believe all that crap you just typed,you've obviously never been to Prince George, Washington, orAlexandria Counties.

Posted by: Icedog at August 22, 2012 11:38 PM (PTS+l)

357 The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss.


The self-hating, suicidally nihilistic left in all its gory depravity.

As I say, this self-hate the leftist hold is their only reasonable position. It's a shame they don't act on it and take themselves out quietly instead of holding on so that they can bring their private misery to everyone around them. The self-hating left only stays alive because they see others who don't hate themselves and they feel it's their duty to make life as miserable for those others as their own are. Pathetic ... but the left already knows that about itself.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 11:38 PM (X3lox)

358 338 Regarding the racism of the south, how many of the white liberals that Chuck Thompson hangs out with live in neighborhoods that have a lot of low income blacks, how many of them send their kids to the same schools with low income blacks.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 11:33 PM (DDye+)

Ding ding ding. That's what is so funny about these people who live in areas where minorities make up less than 3% of the population acting like they're all chummy with them.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 11:38 PM (/YJYi)

359 Krebs -

Jo Dee Messina: My Give A Damn's Busted
http://youtu.be/DFG9dwolo3Q

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:39 PM (fU0YZ)

360
341 i'm just saying we probably have a little bit to learn about treating others with the respect
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....wrong
respect is earned....but thank you for playing and no, you don't get a fucking toaster either

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (Shrag)

361 and if you actually believe all that crap you just typed,you've obviously never been to Prince George, Washington, orAlexandria Counties.

Alexandria isn't a county. It's not even in a county. It's an independent city.

Posted by: Sean Bannion, Noted Pedant at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (wEPzS)

362 358 Adam,

"but I see them"

//Bostonian

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (LRFds)

363
I treated myself to a little hopper time the evening after my birthday.
.
http://tinypic.com/r/346b2n5/6
.
http://tinypic.com/r/5mbkb5/6

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (JKNDp)

364 Was it legitimate rape-rape?

Posted by: Whoppie at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (51xVX)

365 If you're really conservative, you might want to look into Obama...

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:31 PM


WTF? over?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (JMmQ9)

366 fantastic ONT....#36 wins hands down tho....

Posted by: enzo at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (Z6Lyt)

367 Beisner needs to remember what Rippy the Razor says: It's donw the block, not across the street. You've been a failure your entire life so try not to screw this up as well.

Posted by: Alex at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (KFBsH)

368 ONT Book Club. That looks like some heavy reading.

Posted by: sTevo at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (VMcEw)

369 Hey, some of my best friends are black! OK, one of my best friends. OK, half-back. And he's more like an acquaintance.

Posted by: Upstanding Blue State SWPL at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (8HhF2)

370 That's what is so funny about these people who live in areas where minorities make up less than 3% of the population acting like they're all chummy with them.

I think that Connecticut insists that every town have one.

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM (QupBk)

371 Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (79EF9)

--What does "better education rate" mean? More bullshit degrees in womyn's studies? It's gotta be categorized between libtard arts and hard sciences, and all in between.

Posted by: logprof at August 22, 2012 11:41 PM (xVrjf)

372 360 NCJ,

but as an "enlightened elite" we do have this lovely chicken.....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:41 PM (LRFds)

373 I's is dissapoint that Curiosity has been delayed for a month

Posted by: The Dude at August 22, 2012 11:41 PM (tw6Ar)

374 jimi ray, bless your heart. Don't go away all butt-hurt.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:41 PM (UOM48)

375 That's what is so funny about these people who live in areas where minorities make up less than 3% of the population acting like they're all chummy with them.

THIS

Ever notice how liberals really tend toward projection? It's like it's their universal nervous tic.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 22, 2012 11:42 PM (wEPzS)

376 "So Teddy was apparently a Hobbit."
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at August 22, 2012 11:25 PM (6uY89)

One witha tiny balrog, certainly. Look at those wee feet!'Tis nowonder he looks so vexed. Fokken Leprechaun, if I was to be asked.

Posted by: Dildo Buggins at August 22, 2012 11:42 PM (QjSgY)

377
354 wow...just wow
thats some navy seal walking into an ambush level bravery there

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:42 PM (Shrag)

378 I am pretty sure the AoS lifestyle is down with sodomy

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:24 PM (LRFds)


Did someone say "sodomy"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCcaMIcwz30

Posted by: Sebastian the Fox at August 22, 2012 11:42 PM (sZTYJ)

379 I went to school with a black guy once. Never really talked to him, but he was there. He was clean, articulate, and didn't speak with a negro dialect unless he wanted to (of course there were no other black kids so he never did).

Posted by: Liberal New Englander at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (/YJYi)

380 creationist insanity poluting our far-superior schools - mm-kay?

Rather unfortunate those superior schools neglected to teach spelling, eh wot?

Or, don't you have spell checking technology yet?

As a graduate of those superior schools, I say to you:

Fuckin' bummer......

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (z/0ZY)

381 ... how many of the white liberals that Chuck Thompson hangs out with live in the same neighborhoods as Jeremiah Wright?

My guess is that Chuck Thompson and hisneighbors are allCoffee Clatch Liberals ...

Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (QmKg2)

382 This is getting retarded.


FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) -- The government has a Wednesday deadline to tell an appeals court why an Army psychiatrist charged in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage should be clean-shaven during his murder trial.
Last week the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces delayed Maj. Nidal Hasan's court-martial while it considers his objection to being forcibly shaved.

Hasan has grown a beard in violation of Army regulations, saying it's an expression of his Muslim faith. The judge, Col. Gregory Gross, has banned Hasan from courtroom hearings but said he will be forcibly shaved before the trial if he does not shave the beard himself.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the attack on the Texas Army post.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (6o4Fb)

383 Leave it to PJ to deflate this book and its viewpoint in a single sentence.

Posted by: vivi at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (OTPxW)

384 344
Hagbard Celine. There is Shark Week. Then there is Troll Week. Bring your pump-action, extra ammo, and Valu-Rite.


Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:34 PM (fU0YZ)
---
Check, check, and checkity-check-check.

Sadly the trolls are doing more crotch sniffing and less ass chewing in this thread. Maybe they'll get riled up if we poke them with a stick.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (+/VIS)

385 Hey, some of my best friends are black! OK, one of my best friends. OK, half-back. And he's more like an acquaintance.

Posted by: Upstanding Blue State SWPL at August 22, 2012 11:40 PM


You friended Barry on Facebook, didn't you?

Posted by: huerfano at August 22, 2012 11:44 PM (bAGA/)

386 365 AJ,


yeah we've crossed the fuck over through the looking glass....

retard liberal has decided that they are seriously gonna argue that since revenues as a % of GDP are down due to that smoking crater Obama has built that used to be a box called "economy" they are going to try to sell "taxes are lower" as if Brack lowered marginal rates or something worthwhile....

SCOAMF cannot help it moonbats, he has to be "fair"....hey maybe the NE Crackerjack squad can help me out....how is cutting the capitalization rate of Social Security doing anything other than increasing its speed at going broke?

oh I know "not a goddamned thing"

thanks for playing SCOAMF fans

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:44 PM (LRFds)

387 re: "If you're really conservative, you might want to look into Obama. We're paying the lowest taxes in 30 years right now. He's more conservative than the total screw-up of a miserable failure these Ace readers sent the white house the last time"

Weak troll is weak.

Posted by: Icedog at August 22, 2012 11:45 PM (PTS+l)

388 @362

uh, yeah, obama being conservative....not so much.

i was a finance guy until i grew weary of the abject greed...i like romney...and i like that social cons don't really care for him, too. and i absolutely ADORE paul ryan -- i was talking about him for PRESIDENT way back before primary season. i think we need someone who knows about finance to get this country's finances bacl in order...as it is, we are the brokest nation in the history of evar, and obama ain't gittin' 'r dun.

i also think that the majority of your first post is just as illustrative of the sort of immature, intentionally insulting rhetoric from which we need to get AWAY as the "fag" insults i agree are so immature. in order to really reap the progress afforded by a strong sense of "working for the community", even when members of the community have different political attitudes, we have GOT to rise above this trading of intentional insults as a common expression of politicla disagreement.

to boil it down: i hate when people use "haha u fag" as the go-to mode of argument, but i sure don't like it when people call southerners "dumbasses", either.

in other words, i wasn't signing on to most of what you said, so please don't try to rewrite my begrudged admission of your "mildly valid point" as any sort of endorsement...

i'm unpopular enough around here already! xD

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:45 PM (79EF9)

389
Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted of 13
counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated
murder in the attack on the Texas Army post.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (6o4Fb



All the expense of a trial, and the evil bastard is still receiving a salary from the army.

Shoot him in the head and be done.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22, 2012 11:45 PM (UOM48)

390 Speaking of the South:

http://tinyurl.com/9x68ffk

Posted by: ザ 政治的 帽子 at August 22, 2012 11:45 PM (sZTYJ)

391 382 Steevy,

been resolved he is getting shaved....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:45 PM (LRFds)

392 "we're paying the lowest taxes in 30 years"....

Gee....and I thought it was because we can't afford anything.

Go Lightbringer!

*facepalm*

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:46 PM (z/0ZY)

393 And unshockingly he find the South to be a hellhole of racism where
among other outrages black and white neighborhoods are <shudder>
intermingled:
***
I've lived in the South, I've lived in the North.

I had actual honest to goodness not white people in my neighborhood in the former while in the latter, excluding Asians, segregation is the rule of the day.

I knew some bigots in the south, and they were loud and ugly - but they weren't respected. I've met many people in the North who have told me they are the most racially tolerant people in the world - and then gotten their ugly version of the "truth about the races" after a few beers.

And the worst bible thumping busybody I ever met in the South has *nothing* on the average environmentalist I've met in the North.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:46 PM (AUeaU)

394 When IBM when shopping for an OS for the PC, Microsoft didn't have one

But they knew a guy who did, bought it cheap, finished up the hardware interface layer and presented it to IBM. That was DOS 1.0

DRI's problem was always arrogance. They thought they were the only game in town and IBM would have to come to them. They were wrong.

In the market is where MS had the huge advantage. CP/M had the name, but DRI wanted huge money for CP/M-86 and IBM was forced to offer it at around $400, while they could offer the MS product for about $79 (IBM also offered IBM branded UCSD P-system initially and Xenix after the XT showed up).

It was the huge price delta that decided who got the market share, not any particular treachery. By the time DOS 2.0 appeared, its architected driver interface, handle based I/O, and path/directory structure had it eclipsing CP/M-86 from a developer's POV.

MS was willing to do the IBM hardware guys needed too. Every DOS release from 1.0 through 5.0 was driven by significant hardware advances.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 11:46 PM (TDoFs)

395 The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss

I'm a loser, baby... so why don't ya kill me.

Posted by: sleeps on the loveseat at August 22, 2012 11:47 PM (cQmXn)

396 i'm unpopular enough around here already! xD
Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:45 PM (79EF9)


Sufferin' Succotash.

Posted by: eman at August 22, 2012 11:47 PM (Wp4rQ)

397 377. My charming personality has allowed me to avoid problems thus far. It helps that I haven't attended the Cubs/Sox series, not because I wouldn't like to but because tickets sell out quickly.
And for that, I'd just wear a Chicago flag shirt like the chickenshit I am.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 22, 2012 11:47 PM (oiTOF)

398 I read the chapter about SEC football online, and even though I'm a lifelong New Yorker, it was impossible to not notice that the author isn't right in the head.

Posted by: Abe Froman at August 22, 2012 11:48 PM (E55AK)

399 Blacks support Obama over Romney 96% to 0% but the white rednecks in the South are the racists. I don't think any race has a lock on pure rational thought.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:48 PM (JKNDp)

400 I'd go to a Cubs game wearing a Marlins T-shirt...just to piss them off ;->

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (TDoFs)

401 fappin to that chart of 'who gained from the euro' was challenging at first, but my inner moron kicked in and after one minute or so I was going to town.

dang straight

!

Posted by: 1st moron to chart fap at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (X92nA)

402 Ah yeah, why do Northern liberals tend to treat southern states like Banana Republics? Because for decades after the Civil War, they lectured the South how to conduct its business and society while they stole everything not nailed down to the floor

Posted by: I'd rather be Surfing at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (U+y6a)

403 "Thank you for the copy of Better Off Without 'Em, but I'm afraid it's New York and San Francisco that I think should secede."
***
One thing I've been told by liberals many times is that it is the blue States that are the productive ones and the red states the parasites.

They often point to New York's large tax base, led by the very liberal New York City.

But the same liberals will tell me that Wall Street is to blame for the current depression. And Wall Street is the financial engine of New York City.

Odd isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (AUeaU)

404 310 Working counter-drug in South America was fun because of the State Department's silly rulings. One week we could go see a movie because the place was one of the few buildings with A/C. Then next week State Department would place the theater off limits because they thought the A/C had been bought with drug money. Then a week later, the ban would be lifted. After such experiences my opinion of the State Department has been low and they have never disappointed me in meeting those expectations.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 22, 2012 11:28 PM (fU0YZ)

Roger that Anna Puma. DOS is f****d up.

Posted by: Hammer at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (5buGz)

405 Someone on here debunked the whole tax cut nonsense recently. He lowered the amount the gov't witholds from your check, not the actual amount you pay. So you either get less of a refund or you end up owing money.

The payroll tax cut, yeah that was brilliant. Let's bankrupt the entitlement programs even faster while not even acknowleding they're going bankrupt.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (/YJYi)

406
397 you're lucky, i was born and raised down the street from wrigley
i have cubbies blood

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (Shrag)

407 400. NOW THAT'S JUST WRONG.
/spit

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 22, 2012 11:50 PM (oiTOF)

408 382 This is getting retarded.


FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) -- The government has a Wednesday deadline to tell an appeals court why an Army psychiatrist charged in the 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage should be clean-shaven during his murder trial.
Last week the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces delayed Maj. Nidal Hasan's court-martial while it considers his objection to being forcibly shaved.

Hasan has grown a beard in violation of Army regulations, saying it's an expression of his Muslim faith. The judge, Col. Gregory Gross, has banned Hasan from courtroom hearings but said he will be forcibly shaved before the trial if he does not shave the beard himself.

Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted of 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the attack on the Texas Army post.
Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:43 PM (6o4Fb)


Perhaps, Mr. Jimmy Joe could enlighten us? He must know more about muslims than he does about tax revenue, being so diverse.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:50 PM (z/0ZY)

409 Shoot him in the head and be done.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 22,

This

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:50 PM (Dnbau)

410 Cool,I watch the old show almost every night.

Do not adjust your television set: the Mamets are going to be all over it.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, CBS is aiming to have acclaimed writer/director David Mamet reboot the old Western Have Gun – Will Travel. The Pulitizer Prize-winner — whose television credits include The Unit and episodes of Hill Street Blues and The Shield — would helm the updated series about a gunslinger named Paladin, which originally ran from 1957 to 1963.

“Mamet will serve as writer and executive producer on the project, alongside non-writing EP Elliott Webb. If the pilot is ordered, Mamet also would direct,” THR reports. Hollywood.com has reached out to both CBS and Mamet’s reps for a statement, but has not immediately heard back.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:50 PM (6o4Fb)

411 He's more conservative than the total screw-up of a miserable failure these Ace readers sent the white house the last time"


Not so sure about that, Tiger. Bush was opposed to gay marriage 100% of his time in office. Obama has only opposed it for 92%

Posted by: fluffy, true conservative at August 22, 2012 11:51 PM (z9HTb)

412 399 OD,

I don't think it is racism, I think that every member of that block has done serious detailed analysis of the issues and done a compare and contrast analysis of the platforms and relative experience of both candidates.

SCOAMF just seems more able to fire up this economy, look the first 5.2 trillion in deficit spending did not get it done, BUT give him another 7 or 11 and we'll get 'er right this time....

the Unicorn is in the mail

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:51 PM (LRFds)

413
402 while they stole everything not nailed down to the floor

um, check the front yard in front of the trailor for all that missing stuff
(whew...she's in the kitchen)

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:51 PM (Shrag)

414 I think it was George Soros who benefited most from the Euro. Don't ya think?

Posted by: TheOtherJay at August 22, 2012 11:52 PM (nojhZ)

415 Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:52 PM (JKNDp)

416
413 or maybe the trailer
fml

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:52 PM (Shrag)

417 Sean,
re: "Alexandria isn't a county. It's not even in a county. It's an independent city."

Sorry, been frozenfor last 100 years(In 1870, the independent City of Alexandria seceded from Alexandria County, and because of the confusion between the city and the county having the same name, a movement started to rename Alexandria County. In 1920, the name Arlington County was adopted)

Obviously didn't mean to say "Alexandria County"

Posted by: Icedog at August 22, 2012 11:52 PM (PTS+l)

418 405 Adam,

we call it OBAMACARE, you call it "dude where the fuck's my medicare?"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (LRFds)

419 I wish she had aborted me because I love her and want what is best for her.
***
There is a very dark place in the center of strongly political liberals.

If you look at someone like O'Rourke or Breitbart, you see men that loved life.

When you look into the liberal heart though, you often see the love of death. Normally it is pointed outward - too many brown people using too many resources, too many religious people stopping the march of science, too many archaic individuals who refuse to get with the program...and wouldn't we all be better without these types...really?

But it is nihilism ultimately. They've replaced religion with politics. And it has made them sick.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (AUeaU)

420 Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.
Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:52 PM (JKNDp)

oh, I do

fap

fap

fap

Posted by: 1st moron to chart fap at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (X92nA)

421 They should have let Hasan bleed out right there where he committed his crime.A few kicks and stomps even,to help him along.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (6o4Fb)

422 406. We lived for a time in a graystone at Montrose and Greenview - walking distance to the park, but far enough so not too much piss or Old Style vomit wound up on our lawn.

Great 'hood. I miss it during baseball season.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (oiTOF)

423 Sven, I think you may need a prybar to remove your tongue from your cheek.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (JKNDp)

424 No one finds that anti Tea Party wargame scenario disturbing??

Posted by: toby928© at August 22, 2012 10:26 PM (QupBk)

Sort of, but these armchair assholes are always so unprepared for what actually occurs that if you maneuver around them for awhile they'll crash and burn, fall asleep or go home and eat dinner. I think the real trick is just to stay out of it.

What does concern me some is that we apparently need a Jane's Book of Federal Agencies to keep track of the arms race going on there. But again, see above, so only marginally agitated about that, too.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (QjSgY)

425 @350

your ability to bring up a few mafia families in other parts of the country (don't pat yourself on the back too hard -- they are all over, after all!) does little to mitigate the absolute fact that, with few exceptions, the mafia have little actual centralised power in the new england towns that dot the NE landscape as they do in places like chicago and manhattan.

crime is lower in new england mostly because there are fewer criminals. there are fewer criminals in new england mostly, i'll posit, because there is a much stronger sense of community up there.

that's all i'm saying. if you weren't so encumbered by these visceral psychological reactions you have every time you read my name, maybe you'd be able to see that it's not really a particularly controversial point i'm trying to make (and it's a point that accords pretty well with christian social philosophy, for that matter!).

like i said, if you work hard at it, you'll be able to get over me -- i really believe in you!

i mean, besides being suu~uuper cute and adorable and *inordinately* cuddle-worthy, i'm not really much to write home about

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (79EF9)

426 398
I read the chapter about SEC football online, and even though I'm a
lifelong New Yorker, it was impossible to not notice that the author
isn't right in the head.


Posted by: Abe Froman at August 22, 2012 11:48 PM (E55AK)


I guess he didn't have a chapter on Penn State football.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 22, 2012 11:54 PM (1grxW)

427 Carpet bagging yankees are still somewhat of an issue down here when you get inland off the coastal areas...

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 22, 2012 11:54 PM (TDoFs)

428 404
Roger that Anna Puma. DOS is f****d up.

-------

That's what they get for making a cheap rip-off of CP/M.

Wait... what?

Posted by: Anachronda at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (1c58W)

429 I've met many people in the North who have told me they are the most racially tolerant people in the world - and then gotten their ugly version of the "truth about the races" after a few beers.

And the worst bible thumping busybody I ever met in the South has *nothing* on the average environmentalist I've met in the North.


Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:46 PM (AUeaU)


:-) Yep.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (z/0ZY)

430 Gonna tell you a story. I am born and raised in the New Orleans area. Fast fwd to 2008 I get to go to Menominee Michigan to go to school at Enstrom Helicopter Corp. to learn to work on a helicopter that was purchased by a local sheriffs office. Well its march so its cold as fuck and snowing a bit. I get to school the first day and its a mostly white class of mechanics except for the one black guy. Turns out he is from Kenya. Speaks with a british accent which blew my hair back. Fast forward to day two. Im driving my rental from the hotel to school (about a mile or so) I see Job (my african classmate) trudging thru the snow to class. I pull over and ask him whats up? Come to find out he doesnt have a rent a car because of the right hand drive/left hand side of the road that they do in Kenya (british holdover). Its about 8 degrees out and I told him to hop in. I tell him ill drive him to and from class every day even tho we aren't staying at the same hotel. He likes beer, I like beer so we go out to a local bar/grill after work just about every night to shoot the shit and grab some grub. He tells me that he is uncomfortable because everyone stares at him, and there aren't many blacks around and that I'm the only guy that has tried to be friendly. I told him I grew up in a very integrated part of the south and that talking to a black guy or hanging out with one is no big deal where im from. So a guy from the deep south befriended an African in Northern Michigan when no one else even would give the guy the time of day. So Kiss my Stars and Bars ass Chuck Thompson.

Posted by: helofixer at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (t5xaP)

431 '38 You know something that Southerners never say?
"You know, when I retire, I think I'll move up North." '

That's partly due to the fact that blizzards are tough on old people. I can't imagine a 75 year old from Georgia saying, "Hey, I think I'll move up to Michigan so I can freeze my ass off for 5 months, shovel snow, and slip on the ice and break my hip. "

That being said, I've visited places in the south where people strike me as being friendlier and more helpful than I am used to.

And none of them said to me, "Bless your heart", or " Isn't that outfit lovely".

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (DDye+)

432 ""Blacks support Obama over Romney 96% to 0% but the white rednecks in the South are the racists""


Yeah thats a riot. The thing that kills me about the NE lib is they couldn't give a flying fuck about minorities. They just like to pretend they do because libs love to feel morally superior. They are first in line with the "not in my backyard" thing.

Posted by: Berserker at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (FMbng)

433 423 OD,

I am a history ed major econ minor drop out who spends a LOT of time wondering what history will say about the last 12 years....

we've been around each other enough for you to know why I am laughing and have a new migraine....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (LRFds)

434 The prosecution was so confounded by how to prosecute her that they had
to invent a brand new crime just to keep Colleps off the street.
***
Um...ex post facto law?

That being said...this is what you get when you eliminate shame from a culture.

There are a whole host of things that should not be endorsed by society, but not criminalized by it either.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (AUeaU)

435
422 we used to fish over at montrose harbor when we were kids
and of course the other way we always hung out at horner park

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 11:56 PM (Shrag)

436 431 NerdyGrl,

You have to have a mindset, grim immune to common sense....

yeah in my twilight I am going back on the tundra.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 22, 2012 11:56 PM (LRFds)

437 rime is lower in new england mostly because there are fewer criminals. there are fewer criminals in new england mostly, i'll posit, because there is a much stronger sense of community up there.



whaaa

dud I'm from Jersey, land of Patterson, Newark, Trenton and Camden

What is this lower crime rate you speak of?

Posted by: thunderb at August 22, 2012 11:57 PM (Dnbau)

438 Re: TR does the chin-beard cause unhappy pictures or versa-visa?

Posted by: DaveA at August 22, 2012 11:57 PM (Ve9V9)

439 Rock Center ?@RockCenterNBC

Do you know what Mormons believe? @bwilliams @HarrySmith @tvkatesnow report #MormonInAmerica Thu 10/9c on #RockCenter.

just shameless

Posted by: Jose at August 22, 2012 11:57 PM (srIqv)

440 They should have let Hasan bleed out right there where he committed his crime.A few kicks and stomps even,to help him along.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (6o4Fb)


Would have been nice. In truth, he deserves a long, painful, terror-filled death that ends with him unrecognizable and then thrown into a Mexican landfill.

Of course, I'm sure Barky would like to see the shooter get full muslim rites and a decent burial as was given to bin laden, who should have been fed to the birds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 22, 2012 11:57 PM (X3lox)

441 "If you're really conservative, you might want to look into Obama.

I've looked. BO is a Socialist. He spouts Socialist policy.

We're paying the lowest taxes in 30 years right now.

Unemployment is at 8.3%, and has been above 8% for BO's entire term, due to the Bawney-Fwank-and-Democrat-controlled-2006-Congress-Engineered Economic Crash of 2008 ...

... and unemployed people tend to have very low taxes, much lower than they like. It's the lack of a paycheck ....

He's more conservative than the total screw-up of a miserable failure these Ace readers sent the white house the last time"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... BO is as bad as Biden when he goes off-Teleprompter: "You didn't build that". His resume is, well,ACTUALLY BUILT, well, maybe '[manufactured", by others ...

BO hides his transcripts. What is he hiding? Bad grades? A lot of Socialist/Marxist crap (with bad grades?). Perhaps BO didn't really graduste from Columbia ... no one remembers him in class ... perhaps he's missing a passing grade or two ... didn't quite earn admission to Harvard ... this would be a real "screw-up".


Jimmy Joe and jimi ray:
Allow me to congratulate the two of you on your scripted Moby-fest. You two are mediocre ...

Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2012 11:58 PM (QmKg2)

442 Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.

I just assumed "Dennis"

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2012 11:58 PM (JMmQ9)

443 We northerners that are blue states also prefer our racial diversity - It helps while we work to improve the lives of people of all ethnic backgrounds and not just white and christian people like you all do. I guess that's why democrats appeal so much more to people of diverse ethnic backgrounds. Tell me, how the heck did you manage to send only 1 single Jewish person to congress? We have like 35 of them.
Posted by: Jimmy Joe at August 22, 2012 11:08 PM (okvIY)

Are you on crack? Out of the top ten states for black population, nine are southern states. Delaware is 8th.

Posted by: Adam at August 22, 2012 11:58 PM (/YJYi)

444 "Brittni made sure to do her homework though, as she made sure all the students she packed on top of her were eighteen. "

Wow. That teacher goes way past skank into pig territory.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 22, 2012 11:58 PM (DDye+)

445 One thing I've been told by liberals many times is that it is the blue States that are the productive ones and the red states the parasites. They often point to New York's large tax base, led by the very liberal New York City.But the same liberals will tell me that Wall Street is to blame for the current depression. And Wall Street is the financial engine of New York City.Odd isn't it?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:49 PM (AUeaU)

Let these large metropolitan area-dwelling assholes live on the produce produced (heh) on their precious organic, local, grass-fed, free-rangebullshit "farms" and see how they like our lack of productivity. Probably as much as they'll like our second amendment rights.

Posted by: sleeps on the loveseat at August 22, 2012 11:59 PM (cQmXn)

446 Tell me, how the heck did you manage to send only 1

single Jewish person to congress? We have like 35 of them.


OMIGOD, I'm a Shiksa!!!!!





Posted by: Debbie Watsername Schultz D-FL at August 23, 2012 12:00 AM (wwsoB)

447 ""dud I'm from Jersey, land of Patterson, Newark, Trenton and Camden



What is this lower crime rate you speak of?""


I always say its a nice state with too many zoos.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 12:00 AM (FMbng)

448 Uh, OK, Just cueing up the sock for the next few days. Because I care.

Posted by: uh, Fuck You at August 23, 2012 12:00 AM (kzFo5)

449
He's more conservative than the total screw-up of a miserable failure these Ace readers sent the white house the last time"
***
For all the complaints about Bush, and there are many valid ones, there isn't one area Obama has improved on.

When Obama and friend took congress in 2006 we had 4.5% unemployment and a $450B deficit.

Who wouldn't trade the Obamaconomy for the Bush one in a heartbeat?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2012 12:00 AM (AUeaU)

450
Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.


You either have Dish Network or an infestation of kangaroo rats...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (HmCnI)

451 425 JR,

The Patriarca family at peak exerted influence over 25 counties. If you want to pretend that there is not a stabilizing influence on crime by the overt presence of people like the southies we can just shrug and assume it is because all the communities have roaring membership in the Rotarians and toastmasters...

I'm game because I could not possibly care less.

If I had immortality and an endless supply of hacksaw blades I'd start cutting at the mason dixon line, and on the other side of Philly Metro I'd cut a line through PA and *push* NE right out past Nova Scotia......

"dreams"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (LRFds)

452 I'm offended that Jimmy Joe doesn't include me in his ritual denunciations of conservatives.

Posted by: Norman Podhoretz, Nefarious Neocon-in-Chief at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (8HhF2)

453 394
DRI's
problem was always arrogance. ... DRI
wanted huge money for CP/M-86 and IBM was forced to offer it at around
$400, while they could offer the MS product for about $79 . ... By the time DOS 2.0
appeared, its architected driver interface, handle based I/O, and
path/directory structure had it eclipsing CP/M-86 from a developer's
POV.


---------

Ha! Well, you can't confuse *me* with facts!

Posted by: Anachronda at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (1c58W)

454 New development in the anti muslim bacon outrage I posted last night.


Hi, Deborah,” the anonymous man said on the voice mail of the local reporter. “This is– I was reading the article about the horrible incident of bacon and Muslims in the park and I wanted to let you know that is not my intention,” stopping himself before saying his name.

“I had put the bacon there. It was going bad in my trunk and I put it out for the scavengers like the opossums and the raccoons and sea gulls, and I did not intend for that to cause anybody any problems.”

“It was not any (inaudible) anti-Muslim act, and I did not want to offend anybody in way. Thank you and have a good day,” he concluded.

However, the NYPD is still investigating the incident as a possible hate crime. Apparently, an online individual threatened to bring a pig to the widely-publicized event beforehand, and Islamic officials are understandably skeptical of the confession.

Posted by: steevy at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (6o4Fb)

455 "Brittni made sure to do her homework though, as she made sure all the students she packed on top of her were eighteen. "

So...those boys are free nowadays?

Posted by: Meggie Mac at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (AUeaU)

456 435. Yep, we used to take the doggies to the Doggy Beach over by 'dere.

Speaking of that, honest to God, the other day one of my employees said, "Chicago doesn't have an accent." I said, "For God's sake, D, there's an entire SNL skit that revolves around the Chicawgo accent." She said...

WELL MAYBE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

I said, "There is so much wrong in what you just said." She insisted she was right.

I texted one of my police officers (I'm a dispatcher) and related the story. His text back was, "Dere's no accent in Chicawwwwgo. How you doin' over by dere?"

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM (oiTOF)

457 there is a much stronger sense of community up there


While that may be true for some areas, I'm pretty sure that part of New England is sparsely populated.


Jimmy Ray, are you familiar with Providence, RI?

Posted by: fluffy at August 23, 2012 12:02 AM (z9HTb)

458 456 THERE IS NO CHICAGO ACCENT!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:03 AM (Shrag)

459 425
@350



your ability to bring up a few mafia families in other parts of the
country (don't pat yourself on the back too hard -- they are all over,
after all!) does little to mitigate the absolute fact that, with few
exceptions, the mafia have little actual centralised power in the new
england towns that dot the NE landscape as they do in places like
chicago and manhattan.



crime is lower in new england mostly because there are fewer
criminals. there are fewer criminals in new england mostly, i'll posit,
because there is a much stronger sense of community up there.



that's all i'm saying. if you weren't so encumbered by these
visceral psychological reactions you have every time you read my name,
maybe you'd be able to see that it's not really a particularly
controversial point i'm trying to make (and it's a point that accords
pretty well with christian social philosophy, for that matter!).



like i said, if you work hard at it, you'll be able to get over me -- i really believe in you!



i mean, besides being suu~uuper cute and adorable and *inordinately* cuddle-worthy, i'm not really much to write home about

Posted by: jimi ray at August 22, 2012 11:53 PM (79EF9)

Bullshit on the "lower crime rate". It is a case of the crimes not being reported. Either the victim decides it is too much of a hassle, or the locality doesn't report it to the FBI. It helps to make the blue city politicians look like they have cut down on crime.
Stonger sense of community? I guess you haven't been anywhere near a high school in a red state on a Friday night in the fall.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 23, 2012 12:03 AM (1grxW)

460 458 NCJ,

um, "yeah"

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:03 AM (LRFds)

461 One time a guy laughed while telling me about the town we were in, how back in the 40's the town had signs telling blacks "not to let the setting sun find you in this town"

The town?

Glendale, California

Oh, the guy laughing about it was a Mexican-American

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:03 AM (wwsoB)

462 While that may be true for some areas, I'm pretty sure that part of New England is sparsely populated.
***
Yep. Middle of nowhere people in Maine are almost as friendly as southerners.

Bostonians? Fuck is the verb, adjective, and noun of choice.

They are like evil Smurfs.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2012 12:03 AM (AUeaU)

463 454 Steevy,

Bacon aerosol it's the only way to be sure...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:04 AM (LRFds)

464
Ryan is the Ray 'O Sunshine......
So, having read P.J. O'Rourke's previous missive on" Of America I sigh"...
it is obvious that the baby boomers screwed the pooch and allowed the fostering of the COMMIES,UNIONS and the most hated EnviorFREAKS!!
Thus unleashed, They now strut around the halls of our seat of Government...LIKE THEY OWN THE PLACE. AND!!! they make up their own rules as they go along subverting the checks and balance of our Constitution AS THEY PLEASE!!! I for one look at Washington in it's present state and think of things like....Toilet Bowl Cleaner, Bug Bombs...
Flame Throwers!..."Target Rich!!" and one way tickets to Iran....(Pre IDF terminal TAKE DOWN!!!) This I Dream....This I Wish...

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 12:04 AM (wlisC)

465 "I think if Thompson spent a weekend in Upstate NY apart from his fellow lefties, he'd be horrified at the attitude and manners of the locals there too"

His fellow lefties have very nice attitudes about low income blacks. They just don't want any contact with them. Seriously, go to one of those nice, private Manhattan schools, fill it with 33% scholarship students from the ghetto, watch the people find excuses to transfer their snowflakes.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 23, 2012 12:04 AM (DDye+)

466 When did Jason Biggs get a show on MSNBC? And why is he stuffing sock?

Posted by: RWC at August 23, 2012 12:05 AM (gwWRQ)

467 I guess you haven't been anywhere near a high school in a red state on a Friday night in the fall.
Posted by: MrCaniac at August 23, 2012 12:03 AM (1grxW)


Could rob the town blind. Wouldn't even have to break in. Just walk right through the front door, because of the actualy low crime rate instead of the fantasy low crime rate of new england.

Posted by: buzzion at August 23, 2012 12:05 AM (GULKT)

468 @371

i'm talking more about the primary education. yes, PUBLIC schools in new england are just as fucked up as they are everywhere else -- hell, possibly more so.

there are some fantastic universities all over the country -- texas in particular has a couple of really top unis in certain subjects!

and your point is extremely well-taken about wymyn's studies. i'm a science guy, and i hate the fact that i had to pay SO MUCH MONEY for my degree because of the artificial demand placed on higher education by humanities students who don't do anything but get drunk and fuck and never ever ever use their degree.

it seems like the northern universities...the "more liberal" unis, tho they are all unfortunately pretty damn liberal...are more susceptible to that problem. no arguments from me there; i don't really think the northern university systems have any advantage over southern unis outside of the nominal prestige and the sheer historicity (and all of the actually useful academic legacy being an old university affords).

but the high-school students in new england test better than any other region of the country...and the west coast has a lot more asians, so that's saying a whole lot!

xP

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:06 AM (79EF9)

469 461. Any black man in Chicago can tell you a story of accidentally crossing the border into Bridgeport or several other areas and getting run to the tune of "GTFO N----r."

I mean, people MY AGE.
This is not a story just the old folks tell.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:06 AM (oiTOF)

470 445 Sorry, rookie sock error. Promise it won't happen again! I know you know I'm lying right now.

Posted by: sleeps on the loveseat at August 23, 2012 12:06 AM (cQmXn)

471 navycop,
I'm referring to the dismal results from carpetbaggers post civil war. As a result there were parts of the south that suffered for several decades. A classic case were the mining contracts signed by destitute families after the war; uneducated mothers who did not understand the enormous wealth on their lands, which they were signing away. For over a century, northern owners made huge fortunes from coal and natural gas. They never resided in the area, paid almost no tax and made any sort of contribution to the region. The big profits went out of the state. hence - a banana republic.

Posted by: I'd rather be Surfing at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (U+y6a)

472 561 KBDabear,

There was a sign outside of Midland TX I saw, old and faded thank God looked to be from the LBJ era I was young.....

"The Whitest Smiles, and Darkest Soil".....

locals said it was next to a KK* sign.....

so was it there?

Yeah probably but is it stereotyped?

Only Klan flag I've seen the last decade was right here in Indy Metro on a pick up....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (LRFds)

473 What happened to Colleps is a travesty. There are congressmen who've tapped shit younger than she did that weren't sent to prison.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (TDoFs)

474 468 is this cat pee's brother?

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (Shrag)

475 and the west coast has a lot more asians




Raaaacciiisssssstt

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (Dnbau)

476 Dammit!

Posted by: kalneva at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (cQmXn)

477 458. Like I kept telling D --- "I'm not saying it's a BAD accent. I love it. I love to hear it. But for God's sake, ashphalt, frunchroom, saasage, Chicawgo. Open your EARS, woman!"

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:08 AM (oiTOF)

478 it actually sounds like cat pee

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 12:09 AM (Dnbau)

479 dan harris ‏@danbharris Coming up on @ABCWorldNews: so much curiosity about Mormonism, with Mitt Romney about to be nominated. So what do they actually believe?

Posted by: Jose at August 23, 2012 12:09 AM (srIqv)

480
but the high-school students in new england test
better than any other region of the country...and the west coast has a
lot more asians, so that's saying a whole lot!



xP

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:06 AM (79EF9)


Asians? I don't think that afghanis, pakistanis and turks test very highly, at all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:09 AM (X3lox)

481 474
468 is this cat pee's brother?
Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:07 AM (Shrag)


I hear ya... my thoughts exactly!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 23, 2012 12:09 AM (HmCnI)

482
471 i was kidding dude
i like to make fun of all you boones strawberry hill drinkers
****looks arounds**** she's at the table with the beast
whew

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:09 AM (Shrag)

483 I've known blacks in NJ and CA. Almost all said they'd move to the South when the got the chance.

Racism? Sure, but it's a whole lot easier to spot the racists in the South.

I grew up in NJ. No shortage of closet Klansmen there

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:10 AM (wwsoB)

484 but the high-school students in new england test better than any other region of the country...and the west coast has a lot more asians, so that's saying a whole lot!

Well then thank God for those private schools run by those dirty dirty social conservatives that you hate doing so well at teaching those students huh you braindead jackass.

Posted by: buzzion at August 23, 2012 12:11 AM (GULKT)

485 What a fucking douchebag.... seriously? The south holds THEM hostage with the electoral college? I'm sure he's perfectly okay with the fact that liberal California, Illinois and New York alone representing a pretty large chunk of the electoral votes.

Perhaps if Chuck Thompson plucked his skinny neck out from the bowels of his tight liberal ass, wiped the crud out of his peepers and take a look west and east while slumming it here in the Midwest (also known as "the south" to some assholes and the the compass-impaired) he'd figure out it's actually he and the rest of his douchebag progressive friends that have a stranglehold on the rest of the country.

Posted by: skinnydipinacid at August 23, 2012 12:11 AM (zEPqG)

486
477 ashphalt, frunchroom, saasage, Chicawgo.

i WILL find you....

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:11 AM (Shrag)

487 " Isn't Chicago the fattest city in the nation now?

God knows I'd believe it.
Posted by: Cathy"

People in Michigan are a lot fatter than people in Chicago.And I don't have a problem with people getting overweight if that's what they want. I've been through weight watchers myself. But when I've been to Chicago, friends remark about how thin people on the street are. Then we head to "The Cheesecake Factory".

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 23, 2012 12:12 AM (DDye+)

488 486

477 ashphalt, frunchroom, saasage, Chicawgo.

DIT-KA!

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 12:12 AM (+/VIS)

489 486.
Okay, but I'm armed.


Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:12 AM (oiTOF)

490
A hopper:

http://tinypic.com/r/346b2n5/6
.
http://tinypic.com/r/5mbkb5/6

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 23, 2012 12:12 AM (JKNDp)

491 Never heard racist shit said until I lived in a Blue state. True fuckin Story

Posted by: Zakn at August 23, 2012 12:13 AM (7F9i5)

492 New England is frozen and covered with snow for half the year.

If I were a criminal, I'd go to Florida for the Winter.

The Winter also makes folks up there keep to their own business.

I am a New Englander and I have seen the best and worst of it and many things
in between. New Englanders tend to be impatient and rude, especially when driving. It's actually the Law in MA.

Please stop spewing drivel about close communities and higher function up in New England. It just ain't so. They are average folks who muddle through life just like folks everywhere. But they do have high taxes, high cost of living, and months of bitter cold each year.

BTW, a New Englander will call you a fag and then take your parking spot and give you the finger. Translation: Welcome to Massachusetts.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:13 AM (Wp4rQ)

493 487. Some magazine or some such rates the "fattest city" each year. I swear last year it was Chicago? Or maybe the year before...
(The way they do it is dumb, though. Amount of gym memberships, amount of sidewalks, etc.)

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:14 AM (oiTOF)

494
489 Okay, but I'm armed
i'm telling rham

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:14 AM (Shrag)

495 Sure glad I don't have to put up with no racist cops like they do in Atlanta

Posted by: Rodney King at August 23, 2012 12:14 AM (wwsoB)

496 the high-school students in new england test
better


In NY a lot of that is due to the Regent's system standards. I never took the SAT because I got a Regent's scholarship. If you got one of those, admission to any of the SUNY colleges or CC's didn't require a SAT.

I couldn't find any way to avoid the GRE though and had to suffer through that for a whole day.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:14 AM (TDoFs)

497 Ok then, no hushpuppies for your!

Posted by: Hushpuppy Nazi at August 23, 2012 12:14 AM (BAS5M)

498 Posted by: steevy at August 23, 2012 12:01 AM

OK, I think I got it

1.) Buy some bacon, put it in the trunk of the commuter-mobile

B.) Wait a week or so

III.) Drive around Dearbornistan, slinging individual slices of sweet, sweet bacon out the window for the birds / feral cats / hobos as a humanitarian act.

This, I can do. It's good to have goals

we now return you to your regularly scheduled AltonJackson

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 23, 2012 12:15 AM (JMmQ9)

499 Appropriate for tonight topic...

http://tinyurl.com/9p994ls

Posted by: 18-1 at August 23, 2012 12:16 AM (AUeaU)

500
BTW, a New Englander will call you a fag and
then take your parking spot and give you the finger. Translation:
Welcome to Massachusetts.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:13 AM (Wp4rQ)


Don't forget the sad fact that New Englanders are the worst drivers in the world. They make third world drivers seem semi-civilized.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:16 AM (X3lox)

501
well kiddies, dinner time
T made...... man i don't know what the hell that stuff is

fml

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:16 AM (Shrag)

502 494. Someone said the reason he says the murder rate is declining is that he can only count to 9.5, so every 10th murder isn't counted. Or some such thing.
Hahaha!

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:16 AM (oiTOF)

503 501. Enjoy! Hope it's got saaasage like any decent meal would.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:17 AM (oiTOF)

504 'sup, you knuckleheads?

Posted by: zeera at August 23, 2012 12:17 AM (XtxRN)

505 Don't forget the sad fact that New Englanders are
the worst drivers in the world. They make third world drivers seem
semi-civilized.


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:16 AM

Miss one bridge in the middle of the night and they brand everybody in the state!!

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at August 23, 2012 12:18 AM (wwsoB)

506 My best friend in high school was one of the most liberal people I've known in my life. He used the "N" word more than rappers do.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 12:18 AM (/YJYi)

507 Driving inside the 495 beltway in MA is a blood sport. When I first moved there a friend showed me how to park. It involved smashing into and shoving the cars to the front and rear enough so that you could fit yours in.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:18 AM (TDoFs)

508 "365 If you're really conservative, you might want to look into Obama...

Posted by: Jimmy Joe"

Uh, huh, because as a conservative he's going to try to get even more people on food stamps and the gubmint dole.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 23, 2012 12:18 AM (DDye+)

509 Don't forget the sad fact that New Englanders are the worst drivers in the world. They make third world drivers seem semi-civilized.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:16 AM (X3lox)


Worst is such a strong word.

How about creative?

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:19 AM (Wp4rQ)

510 Hmm

http://tinyurl.com/8ntapaw

Posted by: A new OT meme? at August 23, 2012 12:20 AM (AUeaU)

511 They are also quite fond of retarded blue laws in the NE. Or at least they were 10 years ago when I was there.
GOD what you have to go through to get some booze in some of those places.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:20 AM (oiTOF)

512 Coming up on @ABCWorldNews: so much curiosity about Mormonism, with Mitt Romney about to be nominated. So what do they actually believe?

Mormons couldn't be bothered with their Kenyan brother living in a cardboard box.

True story.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2012 12:20 AM (FcR7P)

513 I swear to God, I love aos commentors. You guys/gals are the supreme best. Kicking jimmybob/jimiray/catpiss ass. Just Love you. Reading hubby the comments, we are laughing.

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 23, 2012 12:21 AM (EPbpF)

514 BTW, a New Englander will call you a fag and then take your parking spot and give you the finger. Translation: Welcome to Massachusetts.
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:13 AM (Wp4rQ)

I know its not New England but when my oldest was 6 we took him to a Jets game. He heard the word "Fag" so often from the booing fans we had to take him home.

But the east is so much more respectful in their disgreements than here

Posted by: thunderb at August 23, 2012 12:21 AM (Dnbau)

515 In Rome, the traffic signs are only suggestion, and pedestrians are targets.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:21 AM (TDoFs)

516 Don't forget the sad fact that New Englanders are
the worst drivers in the world.


Please check the plates and notice the 'Massachusetts" feature.

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2012 12:21 AM (FcR7P)

517 Don't forget the sad fact that New Englanders are the worst drivers in the world. They make third world drivers seem semi-civilized.
Felt like Mad Max everyday I jumped on I-95 after 5 PM....and the sorry Yankee bastards won't even acknowledge youwhen you let them cut-in on you. That shit will get you shot in Texas.

Posted by: Icedog at August 23, 2012 12:22 AM (PTS+l)

518 I would move south in a heartbeat if I could. It would have to be near the coast though, I don't want to give that up. I love Texas too, I have a blast when I go there.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 12:22 AM (FMbng)

519 I grew up in South Dakota, where the dialect is very similar to Minnesota's, esp. in the eastern part, where we were. To this day, when meeting strangers on vacation or whatnot, we can identify each other as Minnesotans and South Dakotans, even though I only spent my first 14 years there. Been almost 3xthat timethat I've been in WA, but the accent is still there, according to my friends. But Chicago is even more pronounced, just admit it. "DA BEARSss!"
Michelle Bachman drove me crazy during the debates, because her 'sota accent is sooooo pronounced! She would always say "preznent of the u-nine-id states". GRRRR.

Posted by: kalneva at August 23, 2012 12:23 AM (cQmXn)

520 I've never driven in DC, but I went there for an NYLC in 2006. Even riding around in a big ass coach bus I feared for my safety.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 12:23 AM (/YJYi)

521 Having been a Southerner for most of my life, I have only one thing to say to Mr. Thompson.

"Well, bless your HEART!!!"

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 23, 2012 12:23 AM (5J54Q)

522 PurpAv, that is giving them in Italy too much credit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 23, 2012 12:23 AM (fU0YZ)

523 Could rob the town blind. Wouldn't even have to
break in. Just walk right through the front door, because of the actualy
low crime rate instead of the fantasy low crime rate of new england.

Posted by: buzzion at August 23, 2012 12:05 AM (GULKT)

Yeah, but granny is probably packing back at the homestead.
but the high-school students in new england test
better than any other region of the country...and the west coast has a
lot more asians, so that's saying a whole lot!



xP

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:06 AM (79EF9)

Dude, racist.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 23, 2012 12:23 AM (1grxW)

524 so many fucking retards in MWO

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 12:24 AM (tw6Ar)

525 yeah, Obama is conservative like adolph hitler was a fucking rabbi.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 12:24 AM (FMbng)

526 They are also quite fond of retarded blue laws in the NE. Or at least they were 10 years ago when I was there.
GOD what you have to go through to get some booze in some of those places.
Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:20 AM (oiTOF)

When I moved to CA and saw that the alcoholic beverages were not guarded by dragons on Sunday, I was in Heaven.

Teh Blue Laws sucked monkey ass. And not freshly showered monkey ass, but crusty monkey ass.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:24 AM (Wp4rQ)

527 the sorry Yankee bastards won't even acknowledge youwhen you let them cut-in on you.

First rule of driving in MA -- never ever make eye contact because that's viewed as a sign of weakness and will be exploited. If you need to change lanes just do it and let the other guy react.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:26 AM (TDoFs)

528
Worst is such a strong word.



How about creative?

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:19 AM (Wp4rQ)


When I moved to Rhode Island I was appalled by the insanity on the roads. I loved how they would make left turns onto roads - pull out to stop traffic in the oncoming lane and then slowly inch into the far lane until you feel like giving it some gas. And keep your right turn signal on the whole time ... and for two more miles down the road.

There used to be major crashes all the time while I was there. I-95 was like bumper cars and traffic would snarl in both directions every other morning as everyone stopped to gawk at the latest wreck. I remember one of the first days I was there driving and I approached a yellow light. I was tentative about going through but finally did only to see 4 cars behind me all drive right through with no hesitation, at all. It made my jaw drop.

And the Rhode Islanders used to make jokes about how they drove in Massachusetts. I told them they were all crazy. They made Israelis look like sane drivers, which is something.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:26 AM (X3lox)

529 Someone linked the MWO homepage in the orkplace renegade chat and I thought it looked like a pretty heavy slackjaw magnet.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 12:26 AM (+/VIS)

530 477 ashphalt, frunchroom, saasage, Chicawgo.i WILL find you....
Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 23, 2012 12:11 AM (Shrag)

What about "yestahday" ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 23, 2012 12:26 AM (DU15A)

531 519. One thing I love about Chicagoans is their embrace of complete and utter vulgarity when speaking. Actual radio transmission from CPD today:

Joe, is she calmed down over dere?

Yeah, pretty much.

Alright, fuck her, letter go den.


Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:26 AM (oiTOF)

532 I was tentative about going through but finally did only to see 4 cars
behind me all drive right through with no hesitation, at all.


2nd rule of driving in MA - a minimum of 4 people are allowed to run a red light. If you pull into an intersection before that's happened and get hit, its your fault.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:29 AM (TDoFs)

533 530. They also add an s to shit just because they feel like it.

Goin ta get groceries at da Jewelssss over by dere.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:29 AM (oiTOF)

534 Reported Hate Crimes by State per 100K population

Highest 10

NJ - 6.31
DC - 6.00
MN - 5.97
SD - 5.79
CT - 5.63
KS - 5.56
OR - 5.45
NE - 5.13
MA - 5.05
KY - 4.67

Lowest 10

GA - 0.14
MS - 0.24
AL - 0.28
PA- 0.37
LA - 0.50
IA- 0.60
TX - 0.67
FL - 0.70
WI - 0.96
NC - 1.10

Source http://tinyurl.com/8bo38jx



Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:30 AM (wwsoB)

535 Come on DC, you're slacking!

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 23, 2012 12:30 AM (MrM2k)

536 @36: It's "Cross the street to get some attention, down the road to get somewhere."

Posted by: Topper Harley at August 23, 2012 12:31 AM (9mbNo)

537 Driving inside the 495 beltway in MA is a blood sport.


"Road rage"? Pffft!

Posted by: fluffy at August 23, 2012 12:31 AM (z9HTb)

538 Hmm, Georgians not leaving much bacon in the park huh?

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:32 AM (oiTOF)

539 519
I grew up in South Dakota, where the dialect is very similar to
Minnesota's, esp. in the eastern part, where we were. To this day, when
meeting strangers on vacation or whatnot, we can identify each other as
Minnesotans and South Dakotans, even though I only spent my first 14
years there. Been almost 3xthat timethat I've been in WA, but the accent
is still there, according to my friends.
Posted by: kalneva at August 23, 2012 12:23 AM (cQmXn)

I can hear a Yooper accent from a mile away (Upper Peninsula of Michigan for you benighted types). My own comes back the second that I strike up a conversation with the owner.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 23, 2012 12:33 AM (HmCnI)

540
2nd rule of driving in MA - a minimum of 4
people are allowed to run a red light. If you pull into an intersection
before that's happened and get hit, its your fault.


Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:29 AM (TDoFs)


In Rhode Island (when I was there) hardly anyone carried insurance so it didn't much matter whose fault it was

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:33 AM (X3lox)

541 Who doesn't like a little pork in the park? Savages...

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 12:34 AM (+/VIS)

542 You know, the little foaming trolls are right. The South is so fucked. I had completely forgotten about the band Little Massachusetts and their hit song, God Blessed Massachusetts. Notice the NEbeauty at about the 0:58 mark wearing the Mass. state flag bikini, displaying her short thick neck, blotchy rough skin, stumpy bowlegs, humped rounded back, short practical hair, and patchy fur over pale pasty skin. God what a beauty!

http://youtu.be/mbH60wCO-Yw

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 23, 2012 12:34 AM (BAS5M)

543 541. And how!

Posted by: Kerry Gauthier at August 23, 2012 12:34 AM (oiTOF)

544 NE drivers cans sense when you desperately need to do a lane change.

Like a lion seeing a zebra limp a bit.

You are doomed.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:34 AM (Wp4rQ)

545 Hate crimes reports for a few other notable states, lowest to highest incidents per 100K;

IN - 1.47
IL - 1.52
UT - 1.75
MD - 1.79
VA - 1.90
TN - 2.68
AR - 2.72
SC - 2.72
CA - 2.75
WA - 3.13
MI - 3.19
NY - 3.35
AZ - 3.37
ME - 3.79
VT - 3.95
CO - 4.20

Source http://tinyurl.com/8bo38jx




Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:36 AM (wwsoB)

546 534

Kentucky's in the Top 10? That's sad for me.

I lived there until my mid-teens when the family moved to TX. It's beautiful country, but I hear stories about what happened to some of the folks I went to school with and I thank God that Mom and Dad got us out of there.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 23, 2012 12:36 AM (5J54Q)

547 544. The trick is to pretend you don't need to. Be very blase.
Tap your fingers on the steering wheel to imaginary music, maybe check your teeth in the rear view....

then WHAM. Lane change.

Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:36 AM (oiTOF)

548 kbdabear, it's illegal to introduce facts intoa keyboarddebate!

Posted by: Icedog at August 23, 2012 12:37 AM (PTS+l)

549 I used to hang around Harvard Square a lot when I was working Cambridge. The scenery at 2:00am in a Walmart was hotter.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:38 AM (TDoFs)

550 ME - 3.79
VT - 3.95

So, Kay in Maine and Mary Clogginstein, how ashamed are you to be from the HATE STATES

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:40 AM (wwsoB)

551
A YAK did a flyby and circled our balloons last night.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (JKNDp)

552 @496

i'm not sure what it is, but i totally believe you for NY, because i really have no knowledge of the subject whatsoever :3

either way, NY isn't new england! there are only 6 states in new england: CN, RI, VT, NH, ME, and...well, i know there is a sixth! ;P (just kidding)

whatever they are doing up there -- perhaps they have a similar system to the regents system -- they seem to be doing it right. if we DO end up having kids -- if the bioengineering community figures out human androgenetic offspring before we get too old -- i'd like to see my kids in that sort of school.

i like private schools (obviously), but i'm just so wary of sending my children to a school that rejects the tenets of modern science! that's what you have to be careful of with private schools down here...some of them ARE headed up by hard-core religious mystics who won't countenance such relative uncontroversial topics such as the age of the earth and whether or not hominids were historically concurrent with dinosaurs!

i went to private school as a kid, and there were no good jewish schools close when we moved to the 'burbs, so i switched to a christian school. the amount of unscientific inanity that was presented as established fact was a bit shocking, even at my young age. perhaps even more shocking were the accusations of "false prophecy" that i was subjected to by *the school's administration* for having the audacity to question the age of the earth in biology class.

...against a curious kid? :/

whatever! i got a fantastic education, all things considered...i was way ahead of most of my public-system colleagues when i transferred to a half-public magnet school for high school, so i appreciate the education i got!...but i certainly wouldn't want *my* children in any "learning" environment where their teachers are presenting as scientific fact a 6000-year-old earth.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (79EF9)

553
Dang!

Wish we could pull us some driving shit like dat in L.A!!
But we SSSUUURE have us some HIGH SPEED PERSUITS LIKE nutin anyways else...dag-gum.... and you get no less than 5... COUNT-EM 5! news
Helicopters to feed ya the blow-by-blow to the bitter end!

BeatTHAT bitches!!!!

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (wlisC)

554 550
ME - 3.79
VT - 3.95

So, Kay in Maine and Mary Clogginstein, how ashamed are you to be from the HATE STATES


Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:40 AM (wwsoB)
Let's not forget Mary Jane Rottencrotch- has to be a Jersey girl:NJ - 6.31

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 12:42 AM (+/VIS)

555 Kentucky is still a nice place with nice folks. Along the Ohio River a good chunk of Covington and Newport contribute mightily to the states crime rate. Other than than there are few places there I would fear to tread.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 23, 2012 12:42 AM (JKNDp)

556 Wow. Got caught up in the mental floss. Lots of memories. Archie Bunker. Wish we had one of him today.

Posted by: Infidel at August 23, 2012 12:43 AM (g7aoF)

557 Hating on Southerners and fat people -- the last two mostly PC hates you are allowed to express in the US. That's excepting religion, where atheists hate all religions and all religions detest each other to varying degrees while hating the atheists most.

Thanks to Maet for an enlightening ONT as the overall tone has been pretty civil, and I know he has had to babysit this thread due to it's controversial topic.

And finally, since there hasn't been an Akin related post in the last 3 seconds, get this for irony -- Akin is on the House Science and Technology Committee.

The stupid, it burns.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 12:45 AM (ccXZP)

558 "So a guy from the deep south befriended an African in Northern Michigan when no one else even would give the guy the time of day. So Kiss my Stars and Bars ass Chuck Thompson.
Posted by: helofixer"

If it makes you feel any better, Chuck Thompson would be just as contemptuous of the yoopers in Menominee as he is of southerners. I always like the movie "Fargo" because it reminds me of yoopers. They're nice people but they really don't see too many black folks, I'm still surprised they'd let some poor guy trudge along in the snow in 8 degree weather.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 23, 2012 12:45 AM (DDye+)

559 549
I used to hang around Harvard Square a lot when I was working Cambridge. The scenery at 2:00am in a Walmart was hotter.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:38 AM (TDoFs)




Well, this is after store hours, it is Target, and it is a movie, but it's a definite improvement...

http://youtu.be/6HxnYXS1w_4

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 23, 2012 12:46 AM (HmCnI)

560 you get no less than 5... COUNT-EM 5! news
Helicopters to feed ya the blow-by-blow to the bitter end!



God bless L.A!!

Posted by: YouTube at August 23, 2012 12:46 AM (z9HTb)

561 Off topic (is there really a topic on the ONT?), but I linked this pretty late last night and I don't know if anybody noticed it. I think it's kind of cute:

We're NASA and We Know It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFvNhsWMU0c

Posted by: rickl at August 23, 2012 12:46 AM (sdi6R)

562 VT - 3.95

It's a leftists monochrome state with all of 650,000 people

Who are they attacking, Canadians?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:46 AM (wwsoB)

563 kbdabear,
To be fair, your stats are a little misleading. In the South, if someone pisses you off, you usually just beat their ass (or get your ass kicked), but either way, it's done. .....we don't normally run to the local FBI to report a "hate" crime.

Posted by: Icedog at August 23, 2012 12:47 AM (PTS+l)

564 555 I'm sure you're right, Dan. I was thinking more of the little town I grew up in (I'd rather not name it) along I-75. Lots of drug traffic through there. Some family, close friends and schoolmates got caught up in that crap and ended up losing their lives over it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 23, 2012 12:47 AM (5J54Q)

565 557 Hating on Southerners and fat people -- the last two mostly PC hates you are allowed to express in the US.

*cough*

Posted by: Smokers at August 23, 2012 12:47 AM (sdi6R)

566 GnuBreed, I'd also add Asians to that group (see: Rosie)

Posted by: Icedog at August 23, 2012 12:48 AM (PTS+l)

567 Kentucky is still a nice place with nice folks. Along the Ohio River a
good chunk of Covington and Newport contribute mightily to the states
crime rate. Other than than there are few places there I would fear to
tread.



Is this your first trip to the holler?

Posted by: Boyd Crowder at August 23, 2012 12:49 AM (z9HTb)

568 Wish we could pull us some driving shit like dat in L.A!!
But
we SSSUUURE have us some HIGH SPEED PERSUITS LIKE nutin anyways
else...dag-gum.... and you get no less than 5... COUNT-EM 5! news
Helicopters to feed ya the blow-by-blow to the bitter end!

BeatTHAT bitches!!!!

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM

Nothing brought me the annoyance and laughs like Lauren Sanchez's commentary during those live chases when she didn't have a teleprompted script

All fake tits and no brains

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:50 AM (wwsoB)

569 Um...ex post facto law?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2012 11:55 PM (AUeaU)


Great idea? Mind if I use that during my impending eternal Imperial reign second term?

Posted by: Barack Obama, SCoaMF of SCoaMFs at August 23, 2012 12:50 AM (sZTYJ)

570 558
If it makes you feel any better, Chuck Thompson would be just as
contemptuous of the yoopers in Menominee as he is of southerners. I
always like the movie "Fargo" because it reminds me of yoopers. They're
nice people but they really don't see too many black folks, I'm still
surprised they'd let some poor guy trudge along in the snow in 8 degree
weather.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 23, 2012 12:45 AM (DDye+)



When I was in school in the U. P. (Marquette) in the 60s 70s, there were two, count 'em, two African-American families in our town. They were both affiliated with NMU and contributed a grand total of four yoots to the public school system.


Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 23, 2012 12:51 AM (HmCnI)

571 Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (79EF9)

Well that's the only thing you've said so far that makes any sense to me. I went to a private academy for middle school and while there were no problems with the curriculum,the teachers weren't very good andthey were very totalitarian when it came to their authority.

I was seriously threatened with suspension in 8th grad because one of my teachers saw me and some friends at the movies and we were going to see one of the matrix sequels. It didn't matter to them that my mother had bought the ticket for me because seeing an R rated mvie was against school rules. Just check their accreditation and make sure to go over school policies before sending your kid to one.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 12:51 AM (/YJYi)

572 You should meet my neighbor in Alabama, an extremely fat Asian lady who smoked 2 packs a day....lifewasalivinghell.com

Posted by: Icedog at August 23, 2012 12:51 AM (PTS+l)

573 either way, NY isn't new england!

Once you get 60 miles or so north of the NYC clusterfuck its pretty much like western MA or VT. At the time, the little town I grew up in 20 miles outside Albany was pure Norman Rockwell indistinguishable from any small town in MA/VT/NH.

NY is really two states. NYC/long island and on up to about Putnam/Orange counties, then everything else. Eastern Rensselaer county where I grew up was pretty rural and redneck, and still is to this day...the whole 1960's/hippy thing never really made it that far...or if it did, it was promptly shot and dragged out into the woods.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:52 AM (TDoFs)

574 You NE fellers got enough heatin' oil laid up to last through winter? Good, good. 'Cause when the flag goes up, imma push this lil' bitty ol' button here to shut down all the gas pipeline compressors north of the Mason-Dixon.

Tell ya what. Iffen you boys get to feeling a bit chilly, why not just bring a trailer full of gold coins and bullion and we'll set down and work something out.

Y'all come back now, ya hear?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 23, 2012 12:53 AM (BAS5M)

575 They are also quite fond of retarded blue laws in the NE. Or at least they were 10 years ago when I was there.
GOD what you have to go through to get some booze in some of those places.
Posted by: Cathy in The Chi at August 23, 2012 12:20 AM (oiTOF)

When I moved to CA and saw that the alcoholic beverages were not guarded by dragons on Sunday, I was in Heaven.

Teh Blue Laws sucked monkey ass. And not freshly showered monkey ass, but crusty monkey ass.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 12:24 AM (Wp4rQ)


It's nice living in a state with no state restrictions on alcohol. If I want to go out and get some whiskey at 4 A.M. in the morning, I can do it.

Freedom baby, yay!

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 12:53 AM (sZTYJ)

576 I hope every obnoxious, liberal Yankee/Left Coaster reads Thompson's book, absorbs its message about the South, and STAYS AWAY FROM HERE.

Posted by: C.T. at August 23, 2012 12:55 AM (lU9av)

577 @548

yeah, cherry-picking "hate crime" data to supposedly represent all crime is a definitely "factual" approach to having an open, non-obscurantist discussion, isn't it?

/rolleyes

here are the full statistics, from 2010, for violent crimes per capita (lowest 10 states):

[http://www.infoplease.com/us/statistics/crime-rate-state.html]

Maine 122
Vt. 130.2
N.H. 167
Wyo. 195.9
Utah 212.7
Va. 213.6
Idaho 221
N.D. 225
Minn. 236
Ky. 242.6

the three LEAST VIOLENT STATES are all new england states. RI is 12, and CT is 20. MA doesn't do so quite so well...it's got that nasty boston, after all, and a penal system that doesn't terribly incentivise refusal to engage in violent crime...but it's still better than 12 southern states (and a couple northern ones)!

i couldn't find regional data, but if half of your states occupy the top three spots, it's not a mental stone too far to throw...

incidentally, here are the bottom ten states:

Ark. 505.3
Fla. 542.4
Md. 547.7
La. 549
N.M. 588.9
S.C. 597.7
Tenn. 613.3
Del. 620.9
Alaska 638.8
Nev. 660.6
DC 1,330.20

with the exception of MD, DE, and AK, those are all southern states (and even MD is really a southern state!)

so when you look at the actual violent crime stats and not just some ridiculous focus on hate crimes, the difference is pretty stark.

it's a complex issue, and it has a WHOLE LOT MORE to do with the lack of major cities, which are a known breeding ground for social anonymity and the violent crime that follows naturally from less opportunity to be held to account by the community, so please don't ascribe any irresponsible confusion of causation and correlation to me!

i am a southerner and a proud southerner, but i also wish that the crime, education, and divorce profiles of new england states were applicable to my own state, as well.

i know, for one thing at least, we are kicking there ASS at job creation here in TX, so i'm not down on my state. just think we have some things to learn from new england society, just as they have things to learn from texan economics.

sorry that's been such a point of contention for those who absolutely refuse to admit that blue states can ever possibly get anything right -.-

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:55 AM (79EF9)

578 Hey, Asshole! They-uhs a ship in the hahbah, down from Canader. Full o' gas, ya bastid!

Posted by: charming guy from Ree-vee-yuh at August 23, 2012 12:56 AM (z9HTb)

579
Kentucky has a long and rich history of moonshining. That has been usurped with a marjuana cash crop. Some of the clashes in coal country between unions and coal companies have been epic. I have spent a little time in Clay county and Hazard. There are places where there are satelite dishes on really run down shacks and trailers. By and large though It is beautiful country with friendly open folks. I like that state. My family on my father's side hails from Liberty, Ky.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 23, 2012 12:56 AM (JKNDp)

580 .but i certainly wouldn't want *my* children in any
"learning" environment where their teachers are presenting as scientific
fact a 6000-year-old earth.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (79EF9)


Big fucking deal. Public schools "teach" more bullshit PC lies than any religious school could even think to. And the public schools come down harder on any students who don't toe the bullshit PC line harder than any parochial schools, too.

So they taught you about a young Earth. Who gives a shit? Your parents are around for a reason. School is not the be all and end all of knowledge. It's only the public schools that have demanded that status and they are the ones that force the most ridiculous, clearly untrue bullshit on kids.

There is nothing in this world as twisted and demented as a public school curriculum. Nothing.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 23, 2012 12:57 AM (X3lox)

581 Yikes - it's cold here.

Posted by: Jornolist in Santa Barbara Mountains freezing at August 23, 2012 12:57 AM (TKpwb)

582 Anybody who believes any crime data from anywhere has their head up their ass, it's all cooked for whatever the local police need to show the chumps, excuse me, taxpayers.

Posted by: booger at August 23, 2012 12:58 AM (HI6wa)

583 My eyeballs are beginning to ache. Time to go to bed.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 23, 2012 12:59 AM (JKNDp)

584 Tolerance among races in New York

http://tinyurl.com/3qfte3p

http://tinyurl.com/9lasbwq

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 12:59 AM (wwsoB)

585 cherry-picking "hate crime" data to supposedly represent all crime

No such claim was made from what I read. If you believe it was, then a quoteback is in order to support that position. Provide it.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:00 AM (TDoFs)

586 I'm in wine country smoking menthols drinking miller lite. Now that's class baby.

Posted by: Jornolist in Santa Barbara Mountains freezing at August 23, 2012 01:00 AM (TKpwb)

587 Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.

Posted by: Ohio Dan


Very cool. I'd hope there's extra padding for the brass ones required to operate that thing.

Posted by: DaveA at August 23, 2012 01:03 AM (Ve9V9)

588 Somewhat related, here is a pretty good article on PJM I was reading earlier:

http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/08/15/the-3-most-poisonous-movie-cliches-of-the-60s-and-70s/

One of the cliches was "Stupid Evil Southerners". It generated lots of comments.

Posted by: rickl at August 23, 2012 01:03 AM (sdi6R)

589 Remember how Obama said he didn't want to meddle in Iran? Remember Neda Soltan? Remember how Obama meddled in Egypt and Libya, calling it the Arab Spring while our enemies called it the Islamist Awakening.

http://tinyurl.com/mno6d2


Posted by: Craig Poe at August 23, 2012 01:03 AM (BVkEs)

590 One of the cliches was "Stupid Evil Southerners". It generated lots of comments.

Posted by: rickl at August 23, 2012 01:03 AM (sdi6R)


Queue up "Dueling Banjos"...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 01:04 AM (sZTYJ)

591 Anybody who believes any crime data from anywhere has their head up their ass

NCVS may be more accurate for broad aggregate data. Its not based on crime reports like the UCR is, rather an extensive household survey, so it can pick up a lot of the more petty shit that never gets reported to the police. Its still a sample, but they try to do a better job than most political pollsters and the sample size is huge.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:05 AM (TDoFs)

592 Hmmm ... maybe Chicago natives are a little better;

http://tinyurl.com/9cffgnf

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 01:05 AM (wwsoB)

593 There is a relatively new movie out called "Killer Joe" (2011)
It is a dark comedy, totally weird.
Every southern cliche you can name is in that movie.
Nonetheless, I enjoyed it.
But I felt bad about enjoying it later.

Posted by: navybrat at August 23, 2012 01:05 AM (xn8dF)

594 I just emailed Rich Lowry - I have an idea for NRO to raise funds to fight Michael Mann's legal challenge.

Have Mark Steyn autograph Hockey Sticks - miniature hockey sticks and sell em.

Dude ---- this Could be fun.

Posted by: Jornolist in Santa Barbara Mountains freezing at August 23, 2012 01:06 AM (5g2Fy)

595 yeah, cherry-picking "hate crime" data to supposedly represent all crime
is a definitely "factual" approach to having an open, non-obscurantist
discussion, isn't it?


What cherry-picking? I presented hate crime statistics and said as such, for a "what say you" example for those "we're morally superior" Northeasterners

You butt-hurt, bro?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 23, 2012 01:08 AM (wwsoB)

596 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlMomLvu_4

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:09 AM (TDoFs)

597 Yeh, cherry picking statistics is really chickenshit!

Posted by: Aaron Sorkin at August 23, 2012 01:11 AM (wwsoB)

598
JJEEEEZZZZ,

So testy, so confused...WTF happened to the MandM cool flow???

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 01:12 AM (wlisC)

599 415
Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 22, 2012 11:52 PM (JKNDp)


Kind o' figured it out from the pic.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 01:12 AM (kaalw)

600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAlMomLvu_4

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:09 AM (TDoFs)


Love that vid.

Anyone know what the original song it is parodying is?

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 01:12 AM (sZTYJ)

601 580 .but i certainly wouldn't want *my* children in any
"learning" environment where their teachers are presenting as scientific
fact a 6000-year-old earth.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (79EF9)


Take it from someone who was educated, as opposed to simply schooled, Catholic. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 23, 2012 01:13 AM (ox6Re)

602 579

My dad's family were from (mostly) Whitley and Bell Counties.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 23, 2012 01:14 AM (5J54Q)

603 Again I'll mention that the northeast has a much lower number of minorities then southern states do. This is important when it comes to crime statistics because according to the DOJ, African Americans have been responsible for 52% of murders in the past 35 years and other violent crime statistics are similar.

I'm not trying to sound like a racist, I'm just stating fact. When 13% of the population is responsible for over 50% of serious crime in the country and alarge of that 13% lives in southern states, it's going to skew the numbers a bit.

This is what happens when the so called leaders of the black community are still living in the 1960's and believe that racism is still the biggest issue facing their community instead of the fact that black people are killing themselves off more effectively then racists could ever dream of doing.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 01:14 AM (/YJYi)

604 Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:55 AM (79EF9)

You do not seem to be paying attention to your own data.

Compare VT, NH, ME, and MN. Similar States politically and in other ways, yet the crime stats are quite different.

Look at AK. It is similar to New England in several ways, yet the crime rate is much higher.

I think giving New England high grades for doing well is premature.

Fit MD, DE, NM, NV into your Southern States vs. New England States model.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:15 AM (Wp4rQ)

605 600

Tommy James - "Draggin' The Line"

http://youtu.be/skydln4BhDI

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 23, 2012 01:17 AM (5J54Q)

606 601 580 .but i certainly wouldn't want *my* children in any "learning" environment where their teachers are presenting as scientific fact a 6000-year-old earth. Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (79EF9) Take it from someone who was educated, as opposed to simply schooled, Catholic. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 23, 2012 01:13 AM (ox6Re)
*my*
What the hell?

Posted by: lou's a girl at August 23, 2012 01:17 AM (EPbpF)

607
604
Just a "Hey!"

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 01:18 AM (wlisC)

608
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:52 AM (TDoFs)

Those aren't rednecks...they're woodchucks.
and you are right, New York would be heaven if it wasn't carrying the giant herpes sore of NYC.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2012 01:19 AM (aSUk8)

609 My Cousin Vinny was a documentary.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 23, 2012 01:20 AM (BAS5M)

610 567
The Newport mafia was cleaned up a few decades ago, but NKy has a rep for being unfriendly not only to minorities, but to non-Catholics or anyone who moved in from out-of-town. they just don't like strangers and don't accept newcomers. The rest of the state is quite different. Culturally, Ky is really four very different regions. NKy is a suburb of Cincinnati. East, West and Central have very distinct and separate cultures and accents as well. East is an extension of West Virginia, while Central is very southern with a dash of British. Central Kentuckians of different races have attended each others weddings and funerals since the Civil War - which means even when they disagree they still talk to each other. It impacted the racial history of the area - and prevented the more nastier forms of racism you see in areas like Cincinnati.
A unique community and often misunderstood.

Posted by: I'd rather be Surfing at August 23, 2012 01:21 AM (U+y6a)

611 Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 12:52 AM (TDoFs)

Those aren't rednecks...they're woodchucks.
and you are right, New York would be heaven if it wasn't carrying the giant herpes sore of NYC.
Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2012 01:19 AM (aSUk


I have kin from Upper NY State, about a stone's throw from Canada near Plattsburg.

You leave the main roads up there and head into the hills and it's like going back in time. Some folks up there have accents so thick you actually can't understand them.

And stay off the Res.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:22 AM (Wp4rQ)

612 Cajones....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYZZPwJr_cfeature=related

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:23 AM (TDoFs)

613 Love that vid.

I'd never noticed that he annihilates the Stanford Tree. (what a dumb mascot)

Posted by: t-bird at August 23, 2012 01:25 AM (FcR7P)

614
Sounds like ...."Strife?"
Pull it all back in campers and jus breath deep a couple O' times...serious, then lets regain the conversation with our pirate wit and social rep-r-tee....
NOW GIVE ME an "AAARRRRRRGGGGGH!" "ME MATEY!!!!"

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 01:26 AM (wlisC)

615
It's a pocket of humanity up there around Pburg.

Posted by: garrett at August 23, 2012 01:26 AM (aSUk8)

616 @601

lol, i'd put my education up against yours any day, champ!

thanks for your totally substantive addition to the discussion, tho! you've really moved the conversation forward by offering that i don't have a clue what i'm talking about with a story about something that happened to me in life!!!!

@604

...uhm, what the fuck are you talking about?

the crime stats aren't "quite different" at all between the new england states you've mentioned; in fact, VT, NH, ME all lie close together at the exact fucking top of the list!!!!!

and i'm sure you aren't seriously comparing alaskan society: the absolutely epitome of do-it-myself rugged individuality to the (perhaps overzealous) community orientation of new england society?

note that alaska has pretty awful terribly crime stats per capita. new england largely has excellent crime stats (relatively speaking).

sorry, but i wasn't considering "cold northern state near canada" to be a valid point of comparison when discussing factors that might affect crime...

and MD, DE, NM, NV...three of these are SOUTHERN STATES. with VERY BAD CRIME STATS.

you are making my point for me.

...

i really HAVE to believe that you guys are just trolling me now. this is *twilight-zone-level* inanity. o.o

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:27 AM (79EF9)

617 Math: not for everyone.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at August 23, 2012 01:30 AM (/YJYi)

618 MD, DE, NM, NV...three of these are SOUTHERN STATES. with VERY BAD CRIME STATS.

It would seem all of them are Democrat leaning states too...with md/de/nv being notoriously corrupt.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:30 AM (TDoFs)

619 Cajones....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYZZPwJr_cfeature=related
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:23 AM (TDoFs)

No parachute. I guess Superman was standing by.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:31 AM (Wp4rQ)

620 @582

oh, i totally agree. i'm not a big fan of police bureaucracy...i appreciate the service officers who are busy working dangerous beats to protect and serve the citizens of the municipalities, but i'm well aware that the police bureaucracies -- just like any other centralised bureaucracy, including corporations! -- are well practised in the art of Statistical Bullshit.

the saving grace is that EVERYONE pretty much engages in the same sort of Statistical Bullshit, so on average, it sort of evens out.

either way, the best way to compare crime across regions without having personally lived in each region is still relying on cooked statistics...with fingers crossed that most people are cooking the stats in similar ways!

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:32 AM (79EF9)

621 i really HAVE to believe that you guys are just trolling me now. this is *twilight-zone-level* inanity. o.o Posted by: jimi ray

Incorrect. It is impossible to troll a troll.

Posted by: RonPaulity Check at August 23, 2012 01:33 AM (Q/1Jp)

622 From those heights, you wouldn't even need a BASE rig. A pilots bailout reserve could be used. I think I'd rather have that with an AAD than just a safety strap.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:33 AM (TDoFs)

623 I just emailed Rich Lowry - I have an idea for NRO to raise funds to fight Michael Mann's legal challenge. Have Mark Steyn autograph Hockey Sticks - miniature hockey sticks and sell em. Dude ---- this Could be fun.
Posted by: Jornolist in Santa Barbara Mountains freezing at August 23, 2012 01:06 AM (5g2Fy)

heh. did the fog roll back in ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 23, 2012 01:34 AM (DU15A)

624 It is impossible to troll a troll.

A singularity would form.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:35 AM (TDoFs)

625 i really HAVE to believe that you guys are just trolling me now. this is *twilight-zone-level* inanity. o.o
Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:27 AM (79EF9)

Compare VT, ME, NH not with each other but with MN.

How is it that AK scores much worse than New England states? Is it more like Kentucky than Maine?

NM and NV are Western States not Southern States.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:35 AM (Wp4rQ)

626 MD, DE, NM, NV...three of these are SOUTHERN STATES. with VERY BAD CRIME STATS.
NE (New Mexico) and NV (Nevada) did not exist as states during the Civil War, and are not considered "Southern" states ... "The South"does not extend farther west than Texas.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 23, 2012 01:36 AM (QmKg2)

627 but i certainly wouldn't want *my* children in any
"learning" environment where their teachers are presenting as scientific
fact a 6000-year-old earth.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 12:41 AM (79EF9)

Take it from someone who was educated, as opposed to simply schooled, Catholic. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 23, 2012 01:13 AM (ox6Re)

The geologists and biologists that discovered the fossils and anatomy that gave evidence for Evolution were to a large extent all Catholics.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2012 01:36 AM (rzSn3)

628 I'd call MD and DE Mid Atlantic States, not Southern States.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:36 AM (Wp4rQ)

629 989th!!

Sorry, drunk posting again. I do have work, but it's mostly part-time.

On the plus side, got and watched my DVD of Ken Russell's "Lisztomania." It has to be at LEAST in the top ten of all-time weirdest movies ever made. Thank goodness for "Tommy" because without "Tommy"'s success, we'd have never gotten this dictionary definition of "bizarre." There's not another film like it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 23, 2012 01:37 AM (i0App)

630 @618

yes, i am not a democrat, and i think democrat policies are bad for crime.

i'm not into the draconian punishments for victimless crimes like some conservatives seem to be, but you can rest assured that i find the democrats' laxity on crime to be counterproductive to the social incentives NOT to engage in criminal behaviour.

...which is ALL THE MORE REASON to question what, exactly, is driving the difference between the high per-capita crime in republican alaska crime and the low per-capita crime in democratic new england.

i am really starting to tire of having to explain a relatively simple logical progression of thought.

it's not the politics of new england that are keeping the crime down, that's for sure.

the question i am asking is not "how can we reduce our anti-criminal legal incentives to be more like new england?"; it's "what part of their apparently better-adjusted social compact can we learn from in order to get our crime down?"

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:37 AM (79EF9)

631
O.K then..
No biting, no punches below the belt, knives are O.k, small caliber hand guns are O.K, poison darts are O.K, laser beams that blind are O.K, punji stick pits if laid out DIRECTLY in front of your opponent are O.K, claymore mines...IF DIRECTLY laid out in front of your opponent are O.K!

Now.... LETS HAVE A NICE CLEAN FIGHT!!!!

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 01:39 AM (wlisC)

632 628 I'd call MD and DE Mid Atlantic States, not Southern States.
Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:36 AM (Wp4rQ)

Nah, apparently anything that isn't New England and doesn't border Canada is a southern state.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 01:39 AM (/YJYi)

633 "what part of their apparently better-adjusted social compact can we learn from in order to get our crime down?"

I have a solution ...

Posted by: Cotton Mather at August 23, 2012 01:39 AM (QmKg2)

634 616 and MD, DE, NM, NV...three of these are SOUTHERN STATES. with VERY BAD CRIME STATS.

Um, MD and DE were in the Union, and NM and NV are Western.

(OK, Maryland was a border state. In the cemetery where my parents are buried, there are both American and Confederate flags on the graves. Pretty cool, actually.)

Posted by: rickl at August 23, 2012 01:40 AM (sdi6R)

635 There a couple of NJ counties south of the horizontal component of the old Mason-Dixon line.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:40 AM (TDoFs)

636 ... and, no, taking ergot hits is not part of the solution.

Posted by: Cotton Mather at August 23, 2012 01:40 AM (QmKg2)

637 @621

ah, yes, responding respectfully and substantively to a constant barrage of internet invective and illogic makes *me* a troll.

riiiiiiight.

:3

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:41 AM (79EF9)

638 581
Yikes - it's cold here.

Posted by: Jornolist in Santa Barbara Mountains freezing at August 23, 2012 12:57 AM (TKpwb)



Went to school in SB.....it's quite nice in the spring and fall, and can be absolutely chilly in midsummer.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 01:42 AM (kaalw)

639 637 ah, yes, responding respectfully and substantively to a constant barrage of internet invective and illogic makes *me* a troll.

Perhaps it's actually your scripted performance up-thread ...

Posted by: Cotton Mather at August 23, 2012 01:43 AM (QmKg2)

640 Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:37 AM (79EF9)

Nonsense.

You have not supported your hypothesis very well at all.

You don't even know what is a Southern State and what is not. You can't explain why MN has higher crime stats than VT.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:43 AM (Wp4rQ)

641 what, exactly, is driving the difference between the high per-capita
crime in republican alaska crime and the low per-capita crime in
democratic new england.


Well, you could educate yourself. I'd suggest googling "FBI UCR" and "NIJ" to start your adventure in learning. The perp breakdowns should provide all the wisdom you seek.

I fear you will not like what you find though...

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 23, 2012 01:44 AM (TDoFs)

642 The other thing about CA is that the altitude rises very fast. I'm about 30 minutes from the coast but live at a higher elevation than Chicago, St Louis or Ohio.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2012 01:44 AM (rzSn3)

643 Alaska is a pretty easy answer. Drugs and alcohol and nothing else to do. I've already provided you one reason why New England has lower crime rates overall then the south. And if you're getting tired of pushing your "logic", nobody is keeping you here bro.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 01:45 AM (/YJYi)

644 Plus any deviation for "Republican" crime in Alaska..per capita crime, so we are already fudging the results...are swamped by the huge crime numbers for every inner city in the nation, all ruled by Democrats.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 23, 2012 01:48 AM (rzSn3)

645 581 Yikes - it's cold here. Posted by: Jornolist in Santa Barbara Mountains freezing at August 23, 2012 12:57 AM (TKpwb) Went to school in SB.....it's quite nice in the spring and fall, and can be absolutely chilly in midsummer.
Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 01:42 AM (kaalw)

That fog can be a chiller especially if there is a breeze. I live in Ventura

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 23, 2012 01:49 AM (DU15A)

646 Someone (Iowahawk?) had a brilliant takedown of statistics where he showed that Texas did better in some statistic for blacks than 90% of the other other states; did better for Latinos than 90% of the other states; and did better for whites than 90% of the other states.....but was shown in the bottom 10% overall because of the mix.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 01:51 AM (kaalw)

647 I think VT. NH, and ME have low rates because they are mostly empty, fairly rugged, frozen half the year, and essentially rural.

If I were a criminal I'd ply my trade somewhere else. I doubt the poetry classes in the local colleges are acting like garlic to vampires.

jimi ray is just trying to say liberalism saves lives and protects property and conservatism does the opposite.

He thinks he has some easy to see geographical truth to tell. He can't even get state regions right and conveniently labels liberal enclaves as Southern States in order to mask his deceit.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:52 AM (Wp4rQ)

648 @640

last time i checked, south was a direction. but you learn something new from these southern-educated folks every day, i guess.

as to MN, minnesota isn't part of new england. being as the point i was making was that THE STRUCTURE OF NEW ENGLAND SOCIETY was partially responsible for the reduction in per capita crime, i don't know why you think i should have to explain a deviation from the pattern of a NON-NEW-ENGLAND STATE.

try thinking these things through on your own.

furthermore, whether the states are west of texas or not, the fact remains that the population of states in the south are relatively less educated, relatively more criminal, and relatively more divorced than the population of new england states.

that point still stands.

i'm sorry you all seem to hate so bad that a blue state can be good at something....but the world doesn't work in black and white, regradless of what your preacherman told you.

it's ok that red states aren't the best at everything.

nobody is perfect; instead of looking for idiotic ways to rationalise why new england must really actually suck ass in crime, it would be more productive to try to find out how we can improve red states and steal even THOSE crowns from them.

but far be it from me to suggest that we try t actually improve ourselves instead of rationalising why we don't need to be improved at all ~.~

children. you're really like children, psychologically.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:53 AM (79EF9)

649 Maple syrup. States with easy access to Maple Syrup have lower crime rates and better test scores.

The other states use crappy corn syrup based maple flavored syrup... It's shit. It makes us angry for the rest of the day!

Also, the real stuff is healthier. Explains the obesity.

PDF: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6myzpuc

Posted by: Disgruntled Lurker at August 23, 2012 01:53 AM (UPoZk)

650 Yup, Iowahawk -- here we go: http://tinyurl.com/4q8pboz

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 01:54 AM (kaalw)

651 @647

the stats are PER CAPITA.

alaska is also "mostly empty, fairly rugged, frozen half the year, and essentially rural".

so much for THAT point.

"jimi ray is just trying to say liberalism saves lives and protects property and conservatism does the opposite."

lol yeah ok

good night, children.

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:54 AM (79EF9)

652 children. you're really like children, psychologically. Posted by: jimi ray


ah, yes, responding respectfully and substantively to a constant barrage of internet invective and illogic makes *me* a troll. Posted by: jimi ray


Heal thyself, psychopath.

Posted by: RonPaulity Check at August 23, 2012 01:58 AM (Q/1Jp)

653 648 @640 last time i checked, south was a direction. but you learn something new from these southern-educated folks every day, i guess.
Are you fucking serious? That may be the most asinine thing that I've ever heard.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 01:58 AM (/YJYi)

654 children. you're really like children, psychologically.
Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:53 AM (79EF9)

Oh my. But, the central model we would take from the New England way of life is their politics. I am (was) a New Englander. We can't fly, you know. We live as other folks do.

By your hypothesis MN should be like VT. Yet it is not.

Using VT, NH, and Me is cheating, BTW. MA, CT, and RI are more comparable to other States because VT, NH, and ME are basically empty.



Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 01:58 AM (Wp4rQ)

655 Nobody with half a brain would consider Delaware or Maryland southern states.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 01:59 AM (/YJYi)

656 You are not fooling anyone, jimi ray.

You want to convince us that New England suffers from less crime due to liberalism, but you can't admit it.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 02:03 AM (Wp4rQ)

657 Seriously though, thank you. "Last time I checked south was a direction", that really made my night.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 02:05 AM (/YJYi)

658 648 jimi ray

"last time i checked, south was a direction. but you learn something new from these southern-educated folks every day, i guess."

... such as "The South", when referring to the U.S.,has a specific geographic meaning. It specifically does not refer to any state west of Texas, and everyone who had graduated high school in the US knows this.
"as to MN, minnesota isn't part of new england. being as the point i was making was that THE STRUCTURE OF NEW ENGLAND SOCIETY was partially responsible for the reduction in per capita crime, ..."

Your data does not support your claim

"... i don't know why you think i should have to explain a deviation from the pattern of a NON-NEW-ENGLAND STATE.

try thinking these things through on your own.
"

Ahhh, "Moving Goal Posts" ... weak.

"furthermore, whether the states are west of texas or not, the fact remains that the population of states in the south are relatively less educated, relatively more criminal, and relatively more divorced than the population of new england states. that point still stands."

No. Plainly no. Read previous response.
"i'm sorry you all seem to hate so bad that a blue state can be good at something....but the world doesn't work in black and white, regradless of what your preacherman told you."

... except that we're starting to see that "blue" states have some real ugly problems, just like "red" states ... except with generally higher crime rates.
"it's ok that red states aren't the best at everything.
nobody is perfect; ...

children. you're really like children, psychologically.
"

"I know you are, but what am I?" ... really, this is it??

Posted by: Cotton Mather at August 23, 2012 02:06 AM (QmKg2)

659 I don't think it makes any sense to talk about state crime statistics.

Crime tends to be localized in particular neighborhoods. Every state has high crime and low crime areas. The better states have more low crime areas and the worst ones have more high crime areas.

Posted by: rickl at August 23, 2012 02:07 AM (sdi6R)

660 "i'm sorry you all seem to hate so bad that a blue state can be good at something....but the world doesn't work in black and white, regradless of what your preacherman told you. "

Posted by: jimi ray at August 23, 2012 01:53 AM (79EF9)

Generalize much?

I pay little attention to preachermen.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 02:07 AM (Wp4rQ)

661 637
@621



ah, yes, responding respectfully and substantively to a constant barrage of internet invective and illogic makes *me* a troll.



riiiiiiight.
:3


Posted by: jimi ray



There are two major possibilities I would entertain here:



-You are earnest in your statements, and simply have no fucking idea what kind of site you are commenting into.



-You are a shitty troll who still thinks the subtle sarcasm that most of us shed in puberty is just amazingly hilarious.



Either way, you have no idea why people around here call themselves
Morons. One reason is that anyone trying to act otherwise will instantly
have ten people who are *actually* way smarter than them jump up and
*prove* the offender doesn't know shit. You are proving this by example.



If you actually paid attention, Professor, you might also notice that in
general people who regularly post to these hallowed halls don't engage in the
obnoxious drama queenery of eyerolling, stupid emoticons, and acting
persecuted. You really need to make an effort to smell less like prissy cat piss and more like hobo-blood to fit in around here, whether it's to enjoy the Moron lifestyle or troll the fuck out of it.

It's probably against the rules to smarten up a chump around here, and I'll probably lose a corner off my recently issued Moron card, but seriously- either figure out who you are talking to, or troll harder, noob. The quality of troll that originally hooked me on this site is really starting to slip, and we are all expecting you to STEP UP YOUR GAME.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 02:08 AM (+/VIS)

662 Dear Mr Thompson,
When you once again visit our Southern States I would like to welcome you with open arms. We will be having a lot of smoked meat, BBQ, fish fry with hush puppies, cheese grits, tater salad and baked beans. I would sincerely like for you to meet all of the diverse people at our little get together.
And "after a good time was had by all", the hogs need to eat too.

Yours, G R Dukes.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 02:08 AM (oH/I/)

663 Good evening again.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)

664 Hello, what have we here?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)

665 *cough*

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)

666 646 cthulhu

Yep it was Iowahawk that demolished the argument that WI had better schools than TX -- it came up because of the Scott Walker reforms and the howling of the union teachers in WI.

jimi ray, I still think you are a troll but a fairly polite one that is trying to engage. So I will give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment and point a few facts to you that you seem to be trying to avoid at all costs. @PurpAv has been trying to steer you to them, but I'll boil down a couple for you.

VT is over 95% white, with a touch over 1% blacks.
MS is almost 58% white, with 37.3% blacks

Those are 2011 census figures.

Now take a look at this analysis of crime by race:

http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

Yes, this is a 2005 report, relying on government provided statistics and heavily footnoted with sources.

If you have any honesty in you, you check out this report and then quit comparing the apples and oranges of your beloved NE states with the rethuglican rest of the planet. Or something like that.

I'll check back here in a bit. It's a long report.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (ccXZP)

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)

668
Listen UP!!!!

Stop your pathetic low brow bull-shit about which southern or northern state has the best "Dairy-Queen!" or lowest crime rate...WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!

November 2012...THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS!!!

UN-FUCK YOURSELVES!!!!

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (wlisC)

669 Evening all.

In time for teh Number?

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:10 AM (N/WI2)

670 GNU gets teh soulzzz!!!!!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:10 AM (4ixH5)

671 664 Hello, what have we here?
Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (4ixH5)

I don't think anyone is quite certain what it is.

Posted by: Adam at August 23, 2012 02:11 AM (/YJYi)

672 Damnit, you chatty fuckers stole what I intended to steal!

that's like super double theft, I think.

Also, is the troll tired of having his balls used like a speed bag yet?

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:12 AM (N/WI2)

673 Gushie's got a couple of links for the Squid.

First, some Dork Tower...

http://tinyurl.com/8eu52ht

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:12 AM (4ixH5)

674 UN-FUCK YOURSELVES!!!!
Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:09 AM (wlisC)

Hmph. This will make it much worse.

Vermont maple syrup is panther piss compared to New York maple syrup.

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 02:13 AM (Wp4rQ)

675 OOh yeah baby, teh sexy 666 on a long ass post to boot.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 02:14 AM (ccXZP)

676 Aaaaannnnndddddd...

http://tinyurl.com/8b3r2bb

VOILA!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:14 AM (4ixH5)

677
I give up....

night Robert....

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:15 AM (wlisC)

678 im here
dont go richard

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 23, 2012 02:16 AM (r7Ddb)

679 >>>rationalising why we don't need to be improved at all

Who spells rationalize with an 's', I'll give you a hint: not a red stater.

I've lived in New England, you can keep it. I'll take the South with it's faults any day. Is that adult enough for you?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 23, 2012 02:16 AM (GE1+K)

680 Howdy, Richard!

Good night, Richard!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:16 AM (4ixH5)

681 i wanted to make sure Coothie got his funnies!

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 23, 2012 02:17 AM (r7Ddb)

682 "last time i checked, south was a direction. but you learn something new from these southern-educated folks every day, i guess."

[face palm]

Sooo....what are your views on Capt. America and his relevance to US foreign policy?

Posted by: Mætenloch at August 23, 2012 02:18 AM (xROTy)

683 Gushie! And Robert, gnu, Richard!

Everyone well this fine morning?

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:18 AM (N/WI2)

684 Howdy, DC!

Doin' pretty good. If I can survive this night...WEEKEND!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:19 AM (4ixH5)

685 Richard, all is well.

SCoAMF Haiku

November flitters
across the misty garden
lands and detonates

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 02:20 AM (Wp4rQ)

686 its all good with me DC. the sick horse that came in yesterday didnt have to get killed today, so i guess its all sunshine and roses till tomorrow..

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 23, 2012 02:20 AM (r7Ddb)

687
Geebo's
gush said stay...robert said night...and I should offer anything...."WHAT??" to the thread at this point?

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:22 AM (wlisC)

688 i dont even know whats going on really. Start with bringing me up to speed richard!

Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 23, 2012 02:22 AM (r7Ddb)

689 and I should offer anything...."WHAT??" to the thread at this point?

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:22 AM (wlisC)

Hot chicks in bikinis?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:23 AM (4ixH5)

690 Geebo's
gush said stay...robert said night...and I should offer anything...."WHAT??" to the thread at this point?
Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:22 AM (wlisC)

How about some sexy anime?

Posted by: eman at August 23, 2012 02:24 AM (Wp4rQ)

691 Fire is hot,
Water is wet,
This is the hottest and most humid summer,
That we've had in these here parts yet ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 02:25 AM (xNOVO)

692 Hiya DC etal.

Damn how'd it get so late? I better kill this beer and catch some winks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 23, 2012 02:27 AM (ccXZP)

693 Gush, not killing critters is a good start, hope he/she recovers.

Robert, screw you and your weekend. Although once mine gets here, I've Princess' b-day party, which involves 20 adults drinking and 5 kiddies drinking slightly less.

Also, today is my fake 4 year anniversary! Yay, us. Real 5 year anniversary is in December.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:28 AM (N/WI2)

694
The South is gonna do it for us again. Yeeee- Haw!!!!!!!!!!
With a rebel yell, I said "more, more, more!"
I love the South!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at August 23, 2012 02:28 AM (Sedwk)

695 673
Gushie's got a couple of links for the Squid.

First, some Dork Tower...

http://tinyurl.com/8eu52ht


Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:12 AM (4ixH5)


I love it!


Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Bacon!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:30 AM (kaalw)

696 So, Robert, since I have no direct contact with Gushka, how'd she like to do a Moron Disneyland meet on September 22 or 23?

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:31 AM (kaalw)

697 681
i wanted to make sure Coothie got his funnies!


Posted by: gushka's got a Kitty what plays fetch! ! at August 23, 2012 02:17 AM (r7Ddb)


Gushka!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:32 AM (kaalw)

698 MD, DE, NM, NV...three of these are SOUTHERN STATES. with VERY BAD CRIME STATS.
NE (New Mexico) and NV (Nevada) did not exist as states during the Civil War, and are not considered "Southern" states ... "The South"does not extend farther west than Texas.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 23, 2012 01:36 AM (QmKg2)


Not if I had had my way, you slavery hating bastards!

Posted by: Jefferson Davis at August 23, 2012 02:32 AM (sZTYJ)

699 screw you and your weekend. Although once mine gets here, I've Princess' b-day party, which involves 20 adults drinking and 5 kiddies drinking slightly less.

Also, today is my fake 4 year anniversary! Yay, us. Real 5 year anniversary is in December.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:28 AM (N/WI2)


Barring a hot date, I might give it a tug or two...wait, wut?

*Cough*

Uh, so we talkin' Whiskey for the ay-dults, Miller for the kids?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:34 AM (4ixH5)

700 Nobody with half a brain would consider Delaware or Maryland southern states.

Not for want of trying...

Posted by: Robert E. Lee's well hung horse at August 23, 2012 02:35 AM (sZTYJ)

701 since I have no direct contact with Gushka, how'd she like to do a Moron Disneyland meet on September 22 or 23?


Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:31 AM (kaalw)

Let me ask.
Hey, Gushie! Cooth wants to know what you think of a Moron meetup at Disneyland!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:35 AM (4ixH5)

702 ... how'd she like to do a Moron Disneyland meet on September 22 or 23?

It's a trap!!!!

Wait a minute, he might share with a fellow squidling ... ahem, Disneyland, carry on ...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at August 23, 2012 02:35 AM (xNOVO)

703
Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 02:25 AM (xNOVO)

*NABS*

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:36 AM (4ixH5)

704 I love it!


Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Bacon!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:30 AM (kaalw)



Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu Bacon wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Posted by: Cthulhu Cultist's House of Human Sacrifice & Waffles at August 23, 2012 02:36 AM (sZTYJ)

705 701
since I have no direct contact with Gushka, how'd she like to do a Moron Disneyland meet on September 22 or 23?




Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:31 AM (kaalw)

Let me ask.
Hey, Gushie! Cooth wants to know what you think of a Moron meetup at Disneyland!


Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:35 AM (4ixH5)



Yeah, I walked right into that one. Didn't think I was that far off of Real Time on the thread.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:37 AM (kaalw)

706 Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at August 23, 2012 02:28 AM (Sedwk)

Sock, troll, or bless-his-heart?



I dont recognize the hash, and iPad doesn't let me do ctrl-F. Mainly because there's no ctrl key.

Stupid Steve Jobs, all I get is this magical device that lets me connect to the Internet and play cards and look at pron all sorts of productive activities, but no 'find' function?

Worthless junk.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:37 AM (N/WI2)

707 According to her hash Adriane is new.

Well...new-ish.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:37 AM (4ixH5)

708 Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu Bacon wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Posted by: Cthulhu Cultist's House of Human Sacrifice Waffles at August 23, 2012 02:36 AM (sZTYJ)


....and the eggs scrambled dry with a bit of cheese.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:38 AM (kaalw)

709 >700 Nobody with half a brain would consider Delaware or Maryland southern states.

Not for want of trying...


Can't expect someone who didn't grow up here to understand the difference between the north, south, Midwest and west.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 02:38 AM (GE1+K)

710
I am all to you
a post
sincere!
Spends nights all
Blundering, blistering
to your thoughts and
perspective and my
desireto engage!
You are my safe
haven from
the world enraged.
My MandM's
My MandM's

Goodnight my Friends

Posted by: Richard at August 23, 2012 02:39 AM (wlisC)

711 G'night, Richard!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:40 AM (kaalw)

712 Can't expect someone who didn't grow up here to understand the difference between the north, south, Midwest and west.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 02:38 AM (GE1+K)


Nuh-uh!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama II at August 23, 2012 02:40 AM (sZTYJ)

713 Gushka?

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:40 AM (kaalw)

714 >>>Sock, troll, or bless-his-heart?

Sock, rarely post.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (GE1+K)

715 Good ngiht, Richard!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (4ixH5)

716 ....maybe if we roll out the TPAKTOP....

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (kaalw)

717 Gushka?


Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:40 AM (kaalw)

Occupied by a meow-meow?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (4ixH5)

718 I live in NM. We are racist against each other and outsiders.

Posted by: osoloco at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (ATWS5)

719 *Poses heroically*

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (4ixH5)

720 "last time i checked, south was a direction. but you learn something new from these southern-educated folks every day, i guess."When I grew up it pretty much was. We didn`t care where you were from as long as you fit in and did not try to change us to your way of thinking. Then Hollywierd and the politicians decided to bring back old prejudices, and portray Southeners as backwoods hicks. I have had to fight an accent being associated with lack of intelligence since the early 80`s.

So.... fuck `em, and if you want to throw down IQ`s, I`m good to go.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 02:42 AM (oH/I/)

721 Occupied by a meow-meow?


Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:41 AM (4ixH5)


More likely occupied by a Marine who is two axe-handles across the shoulders.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:43 AM (kaalw)

722 Robert, you've got it all wrong.

the adults get drinks, the kids get drinks in sippy cups. Well, after the first two or thirteen, I might be required by circumstances outside my control to switch to a sippy cup myself.

Or at least a wacky straw.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:43 AM (N/WI2)

723 *Fans self*.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:43 AM (kaalw)

724 ....maybe if we roll out the TPAKTOP....

Rolling out the barrel is much more fun ...

Posted by: Beer Barrel Polka at August 23, 2012 02:44 AM (xNOVO)

725 Or at least a wacky straw.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:43 AM (N/WI2)

Loops or nothing!
http://www.xkcd.com/1095/

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:46 AM (4ixH5)

726 Bless his heart. I think I'm going to pop on over and give him a nice, big, ol' Southern book review on Amazon. Bless his heart indeed.

Posted by: David Duke at August 23, 2012 02:46 AM (v6ewg)

727 This night shift to day shift bullshit has got to stop. Any hope of developing a regular sleep schedule is gone.

Oh well, sleep is for the weak anyway.

*pours pint glas full of box wine*

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (N/WI2)

728 More likely occupied by a Marine who is two axe-handles across the shoulders.


Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:43 AM (kaalw)

What, you think they're in the middle of a game of competetive solitaraire?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (4ixH5)

729 Did Robert chase Adriane away? How are the projects going? Last coat of polyurethane on the window today, and it looks maaaaahhhhvelous!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (kaalw)

730 *Hands* Robert an accordion ...

Posted by: Adriane knows who Lawrence Welk was ... at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (xNOVO)

731 sleep is for the weak anyway.



Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (N/WI2)

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Juan Valdez and his finest bean at August 23, 2012 02:48 AM (4ixH5)

732 Posted by: Adriane knows who Lawrence Welk was ... at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (xNOVO)


Are you ready to ROCK?!?!?!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQZmoKPTedY

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:50 AM (4ixH5)

733 What, you think they're in the middle of a game of competetive solitaraire?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:47 AM (4ixH5)


Only if it is strip solitaire...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 02:52 AM (sZTYJ)

734 Oh, here's something to make you all feel better about yourselves at my expense:

It's been many moons since I worked construction, and I did not realize just how perishable that skill set is.

Tried to build an outdoor pullup bar. Pressure treated 4x4s, 3/4" pipe with flanges, 250 lbs of concrete per leg.

Dug the holes to the proper depth, laid footers, raised the whole assembly...snapped the godamn 3/4" pipe in two places when the thing got torqued.

Two whole days wasted. And the concrete set, so there's no fixing it now. You may commence mocking me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:53 AM (N/WI2)

735 How are the projects going?

Congratulations on the winder ...

I have an idea for our bedroom sill ... going to get decals with "Here comes the Sun" lyrics and notes and stuff and place a bar or so on each of the tiles. In the gaps // spaces necessary to get an even number of uncut tiles, sun // sunbeam mosaics (small tiles - the sill isn't that large).

Need to figure out how to affix the decals, since it's probably going to be xeroxed at Kinko's kind of decals ....

In other news, going to strip the 2nd BR door tomorrow. Then try out the newly cleaned and prepped sprayer to paint it ...

Posted by: Adriane is not related to Bob Villa at August 23, 2012 02:53 AM (xNOVO)

736 so many dumb people in MWO

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 02:53 AM (tw6Ar)

737 FUCK!!! Too early for Christmas music

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 02:55 AM (tw6Ar)

738 You may commence mocking me.

There but for the grace of God go I ...

Posted by: Adriane is not religious, per se ... at August 23, 2012 02:56 AM (xNOVO)

739 4) although i was only in new york, i had lots of friends and colleagues
from new england with decidedly liberal political views, and although
my views were far less similar to their views than they are to the views
of the commentariat here, i *never* was subjected to the sort of
childish name-calling that is directed at me on this website.

Dude, this is the Ace of Spades. Go to PJ Media if you want more erudite and less funny discourse.

Posted by: Alana at August 23, 2012 02:56 AM (tlVhX)

740 Time for a nightcap and bed before having to hsake my fist at malfunctioning equipment non-working reactions...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 23, 2012 02:58 AM (sZTYJ)

741 I`m the perfect God damn example of how stupid don`t rise up to meet smart, shit works the other way.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 02:58 AM (oH/I/)

742 You may commence mocking me.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:53 AM (N/WI2)

"Goddamn" should have two Ds in it.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 02:59 AM (4ixH5)

743 FUCK!!! Too early for Christmas music

Jingle Bells,
Ba Rock smells,
Michelle ate every egg in Denny's ... and the pancakes and saunsages and killed the little ol' white lady in the next booth who had the temerity to say, 'Excuse me, miss ... i think that's my toast' ...

Posted by: Adriane loves the Classics but is Easily Confused at August 23, 2012 03:01 AM (xNOVO)

744 Hey Kids


Be sure to vote McCaskill/Akins. Then beat your forehead with a brick.

Posted by: jc, campaign manager for the McCaskill/Akin campaign at August 23, 2012 03:01 AM (ufJKx)

745 Hey, JC!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 03:02 AM (4ixH5)

746 Meh, I blame pixy. Everyone else does.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 03:03 AM (N/WI2)

747 5977 signatures so far!

Posted by: Still Standing With Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 03:03 AM (zrpqj)

748 Naw , I seperated `em, ` of course I`m stupid now sooo....

Howdy Robert.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:04 AM (oH/I/)

749 huh low, jc ...

How are YOU today?

Posted by: all the polite, well-behaved kids ... at August 23, 2012 03:04 AM (xNOVO)

750 Pixy gave me crabs.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 03:04 AM (4ixH5)

751 Howdy, Rightly!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 03:05 AM (4ixH5)

752 Pixy gave me crabs.

Soft shell or crabbie patties ?

Posted by: Sponge Bob, Contraception Specialist ... at August 23, 2012 03:06 AM (xNOVO)

753 Ugh, if it's Akin time I'm outta here.

Just gotta chug this fine wine right quick...


I seriously thought the I-stand-with-Akin guy was socking poorly for like three days. Finally clicked the nic, and nope he's serious.

And people wonder why I drink.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 03:07 AM (N/WI2)

754 Are you ready to ROCK?!?!?!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQZmoKPTedY


Oh Yeah!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKpzCCuHDVY

Posted by: Alfred Hitchcock's Proper British Accent at August 23, 2012 03:08 AM (xNOVO)

755 Goodnight/morning fake internet friends.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 03:09 AM (N/WI2)

756 415
Apparently no one was curious as to what a hopper is.

I was. I looked at your pictures.

Posted by: Alana at August 23, 2012 03:09 AM (tlVhX)

757 What do you mean by socking poorly?

Posted by: Still Standing With Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 03:09 AM (zrpqj)

758 Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:53 AM (N/WI2)

DC, I'm not seeing the disaster here. Are the 4x4's straight? If so, why not drill 1" holes in each leg, run a piece of 3/4" pipe through both holes, and cap both ends to hold it in place?

Posted by: Scobface at August 23, 2012 03:09 AM (IoNBC)

759 Since we desperately need some content to ridicule, I'm going with the window story.

We bought this house in 1997, it was built in '55, but has been substantially remodeled by every single cotton-pickin' owner since.....whether justified in his self-assessment of remodeling skills or not. One of its original features is a crank-out window in the bathroom.

Now, we've hated this thing since before we moved in, but we had another remodel done right when we bought it and discovered that the interior door frames were really odd. As in, they probably had been scavenged from a contemporary hotel project that fell through -- because they were made of thick steel and had tabs that extended about 10" into the wall. To move one doorway, we came very close to nuking the entire house from orbit......just to be sure. This crank-out window was made of steel and was embedded in a stucco wall, so we were cautious.

The BH, however, had a 3-week work assignment out-of-state, and my favorite insane handyman guy was available, so I figured we'd try it as soon as she flew out.

I measured the size of the window, compensated for the thickness of the drywall, and ended up with a somewhat standard size (48" W x 24" H). To get that with obscure glass is a special order that took 2 weeks. No problemo.

BH left, I started tearing into the wall and.....er.....there was no drywall, they'd skimmed over studs. The window opening was, like, 46-1/2 inches wide. No way to special order that in time, so I got creative. 3'Wx2'H windows weren't special order -- grab one of those. Then fill in the extra area with glass blocks.

Things went pretty well for a while there, until it became obvious that glass blocks, the interior wall, the exterior wall, and the window were not even close to lining up at the same depth......which led to another improvisation. I grabbed $100 of red oak in 1/4", 1/2", and 3/4" and started to piece together a vaguely Arts-and-Crafts melange.

So, that I can say "Last coat of polyurethane on the window today, and it looks maaaaahhhhvelous!" is the end of a "tightrope without a net" experience.....oh, which BTW got gobsmacked when the BH's project got torpedoed a week in -- on Thursday, she was saying that things were going well enough but she might need to stay for an extra week to work out the bugs; on Friday, she told me she was flying back the next day.

OK, let's see how far behind I've gotten while typing this......

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:09 AM (kaalw)

760 And people wonder why I drink.

Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 03:07 AM (N/WI2)

Hey DC. For the calories?

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:10 AM (ufJKx)

761 And people wonder why I drink.

'cause yew thirsty?

Posted by: Albert Einstein, Certified Genius at August 23, 2012 03:10 AM (xNOVO)

762 I'm "serious cat" and I'm obviously not serious about Todd Akin's pathetically low signature count.

I thought I was socking cleverly.

Posted by: Still Standing With Todd Akin at August 23, 2012 03:12 AM (zrpqj)

763 Guess I need to read before I comment, in other words put brain in gear before putting keyboard mouth in ether motion.
goddamn.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:12 AM (oH/I/)

764 Hey Adriane


Did you get a new hash? Bet you painted over the old one.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:12 AM (ufJKx)

765 Did you get a new hash? Bet you painted over the old one.

well, had the computer off line at the old new house for a few days ... so maybe the electrons got shaken up ...

But Holy Cow, I was soooooooooooo tired after that last coat of 'Harmonic Tan' I could barely see straight ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 03:15 AM (xNOVO)

766 758
Posted by: DC in Towson at August 23, 2012 02:53 AM (N/WI2)



DC, I'm not seeing the disaster here. Are the 4x4's straight? If
so, why not drill 1" holes in each leg, run a piece of 3/4" pipe through
both holes, and cap both ends to hold it in place?

Posted by: Scobface at August 23, 2012 03:09 AM (IoNBC)


Pretty similar to my thoughts.....but I was thinking more of cut wood block, drill 3/4" hole, then saw block in half. Screw 1/2 block to 4x4 below pipe, insert pipe, screw other 1/2 block to 4x4 above pipe.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:15 AM (kaalw)

767 Good ngiht, DC!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 03:17 AM (4ixH5)

768 If the sprayer works OK-ish for the door, then we bring it inside for the 3rd coat of white ceiling ... roller just not cutting it.

I'm going to TARP the walls by executive order ... not asking for votes or nothin'!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 03:17 AM (xNOVO)

769 Hello Adriane and jc

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:19 AM (oH/I/)

770 Happy Thursday Morning, rightly ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 03:21 AM (xNOVO)

771 """Now, we've hated this thing since before we moved in, but we had another
remodel done right when we bought it and discovered that the interior
door frames were really odd. As in, they probably had been scavenged
from a contemporary hotel project that fell through -- because they were
made of thick steel and had tabs that extended about 10" into the wall.
To move one doorway, we came very close to nuking the entire house from
orbit......just to be sure.""



I hate those frigging door frames. I ran into those quite a few times, depending on what development I was working in. That shit was standard in some houses, so yours isn't actually unique, and yeah, removing one requires orbital mass drivers.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 03:21 AM (FMbng)

772 Just left Akin a polite message asking him to bow out. He is damaged goods and even if he still possibly had a chance he won't by November. I can not stand the thought of Claire retaining Mo's Senate seat. On a side note some people have blamed Missourians in previous posts for Akin. I would like to point out that over 2/3 of us voted for Brunner and Steelman, Akin's victory can directly be attributed to Democrat interference in the primary.

Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 03:23 AM (MkgGw)

773 Hey, Rightly.


So, you rushing right out to buy the shitbag's book? Wonder what hellhole he lives in. That degree of fulla shit implies NY to me.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:24 AM (ufJKx)

774 Just left Akin a polite message asking him to bow
out.


Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 03:23 AM (MkgGw)

That's not gonna work. Call him a pussy faggot, that gets the point through quicker.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 03:25 AM (4ixH5)

775 Oh, and vaguely apropos of nothing.....I come to find out with all these little wood pieces that "oak" is "roble" in Spanish -- which I never knew despite the many times I've driven through Paso Robles. Similarly, no matter how many times I'd heard "alamo pintado" (e.g. http://www.alamopintado.com/ ), it never occurred to me that it might mean "painted poplar".

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:25 AM (kaalw)

776 772
Just left Akin a polite message asking him to bow out. He is damaged
goods and even if he still possibly had a chance he won't by November. I
can not stand the thought of Claire retaining Mo's Senate seat. On a
side note some people have blamed Missourians in previous posts for
Akin. I would like to point out that over 2/3 of us voted for Brunner
and Steelman, Akin's victory can directly be attributed to Democrat
interference in the primary.


Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 03:23 AM (MkgGw)

===
good luck. any chance that a write-in candidate could win?

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:26 AM (ufJKx)

777 My glass keeps staying half full no matter how many times I decide I need more in it, eventually I`ll get to the bottem of this.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:28 AM (oH/I/)

778 Half-listening to the radio, and I keep hearing a soundbite on the news that I swear is Biden yelling something like:

"You think things are bad? Things aren't that bad... things got just as bad for the Roman Empire, but... well they later collapsed so that's a bad example."

But I keep missing the lead-in to the clip. Trying to dig it up on twitter now.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 03:29 AM (+/VIS)

779 I hate those frigging door frames. I ran into those
quite a few times, depending on what development I was working in. That
shit was standard in some houses, so yours isn't actually unique, and
yeah, removing one requires orbital mass drivers.


Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 03:21 AM (FMbng)


One of the funny things about growing up near LA is getting all the earthquake-drill stuff. They keep saying over-and-over that you should stand and brace yourself within a door frame.....and, yeah, that made sense after we built some houses -- you wouldn't be in the middle of some clear span that might collapse, but it's still just framed a little better. But these fuckin' metal doorframes wouldn't just be the best place to take shelter if there was a quake, they'd be the last things standing if SF got nuked.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:29 AM (kaalw)

780 ""Wonder what hellhole he lives in. That degree of fulla shit implies NY to me.""


Probably, its amazing how superior libs think they are just because they live in a fucking human parking garage.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 03:30 AM (FMbng)

781 they'd be the last things standing if SF got nuked.

Good God! man ... don't give the EPA any ideas!!! or HHS !!!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 03:31 AM (xNOVO)

782 Btw, I saw Dick Morris put forth the theory that this Akin business helps Romney as it gives him the opportunity to highlight his own "exceptions" position, which in turn will make him seem "safe" to moderate voters.

No one else is making that argument.

I dunno. *shrugs*

Posted by: Serious Cat, lousy at sock puppeting at August 23, 2012 03:32 AM (zrpqj)

783 The sock is the same,
But changed, did the hash ...
I'll figure it out later,
Right now I'm going to crash...

Good night, good people,
er lie in the morning taking the car in for front end alignment ...

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 03:34 AM (xNOVO)

784 Good night, Adriane!

Sweet dreams of Ben Browder changing your oil and inflating your tires.

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 03:36 AM (4ixH5)

785 jc sadly no, Missouri has too many low information voters who vote for party alone. It would take someone with the celebrity of George Brett to successfully carry off a write in campaign that people in MO would pay attention to, but sadly he lives in KS now.

Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 03:36 AM (MkgGw)

786 Bottem be a knew word, a combo word, a word of many meanings.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:36 AM (oH/I/)

787 781
they'd be the last things standing if SF got nuked.



Good God! man ... don't give the EPA any ideas!!! or HHS !!!

Posted by: A cynical but rarely angry Adriane at August 23, 2012 03:31 AM (xNOVO)


If the EPA wants to beat themselves to death against my doorframes, they're welcome to do so.

Alternatively, if they'd like to relocate to SF and get nuked, that'd be fine also.

Or if they'd like to build a new HQ on the San Andreas fault using ecologically-sensitive building materials like recycled glass, I'd say that was also fine.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:37 AM (kaalw)

788 G'night, Adriane! Sweet dreams!

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:38 AM (kaalw)

789 780
""Wonder what hellhole he lives in. That degree of fulla shit implies NY to me.""


Probably, its amazing how superior libs think they are just because they live in a fucking human parking garage.


Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 03:30 AM (FMbng)

===
New Yorkers have such a distorted view of where they live. "It's so fast paced." No, it's not. People rush from one long line to another long line and wait their asses off for almost everything. Waiting is a lot of things, but fast paced isn't one of them.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:39 AM (ufJKx)

790 Invited to work the weekend again. Argh

Posted by: Zakn at August 23, 2012 03:40 AM (7F9i5)

791 Goodnight, Adriane.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:40 AM (ufJKx)

792 So, you rushing right out to buy the shitbag's book? Wonder what hellhole he lives in. That degree of fulla shit implies NY to me.

I`d just like to give him a big ol hug. I would let go when he turned purple.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:40 AM (oH/I/)

793 Good night Adriane, sleep tight.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:42 AM (oH/I/)

794 785
jc sadly no, Missouri has too many low information voters who vote for
party alone. It would take someone with the celebrity of George Brett to
successfully carry off a write in campaign that people in MO would pay
attention to, but sadly he lives in KS now.


Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 03:36 AM (MkgGw)

===
Last night we were goofing on the idea of forcibly marrying McCaskill to Akin like a prez/VP thing. You know, Kerry/Edwards, only make it McCaskill/Akin. Then, running a shit load of ads bashing the McCaskill/Akin campaign.
May not work, but it would be obnoxiously fun.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 03:44 AM (ufJKx)

795 OK, let's see if this works -- http://___23.imageshack.us/___23/1000/egfffbha.jpg

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:45 AM (kaalw)

796 That would evidently be "no". How 'bout this -- http://tinyurl.com/9ondzsm

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:48 AM (kaalw)

797 796
That would evidently be "no". How 'bout this -- http://tinyurl.com/9ondzsm


Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:48 AM (kaalw)


There we go -- ain't that purdy? It's only about 90% done in that pic.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:50 AM (kaalw)

798 ""New Yorkers have such a distorted view of where they live. "It's so fast
paced." No, it's not. People rush from one long line to another long
line and wait their asses off for almost everything. Waiting is a lot of
things, but fast paced isn't one of them.""


Man no shit. I can't handle going there, its like heading to the gates of Mordor. I'm about an hour from there, and had to take the train into NYC a few days in a row because I was helping a friend for a few days who was doing some wiring in madison square garden. It was the most depressing thing I ever did, and the very LAST thing I thought I would ever do ...take a train into NYC like a commuter. I would pitch a teepee in fallujha and sell goat shit before ever doing that again.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 03:52 AM (FMbng)

799 I think you should cover all the walls in your house with that oak panneling.

Posted by: Serious Cat, lousy at sock puppeting at August 23, 2012 03:53 AM (zrpqj)

800
I think you should cover all the walls in your house with that oak panneling.

Posted by: Serious Cat, lousy at sock puppeting at August 23, 2012 03:53 AM (zrpqj)

god bless the 70's

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 03:54 AM (tw6Ar)

801 Getting that time to hit the hay. So once again I tip my hat and say Stranger, pass by.
Good night all and wishing well for the day ahead.

Posted by: rightlysouthern(my dog`s gettin old quick just like me) at August 23, 2012 03:56 AM (oH/I/)

802 799
I think you should cover all the walls in your house with that oak panneling.

Posted by: Serious Cat, lousy at sock puppeting at August 23, 2012 03:53 AM (zrpqj)


I've seen where that goes ( http://www.gamblehouse.org/photos/virtual/living.html ).....and, while undeniably gorgeous, it's (a) pricey and (b) a bit dark.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 03:59 AM (kaalw)

803 Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 03:52 AM (FMbng)

You think hot shit you are, Amrikan? We show you how al-Fallujah throw down!

Posted by: Goat Shit Merchants Local #4692 at August 23, 2012 03:59 AM (4ixH5)

804 Good night, Rightly!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 04:00 AM (4ixH5)

805 nightly, rightly.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 04:01 AM (ufJKx)

806 Roman Empire quote was Gov Moonbeam rather than Biden. Hard to tell the difference sometimes.

Posted by: Hagbard Celine at August 23, 2012 04:05 AM (+/VIS)

807 god bless the 70's


Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 03:54 AM (tw6Ar)


It's only 70's if it's paneling veneer (or vinyl print) over particleboard. If it's actually pieced thin oak boards (as mine is), it's more 1900's (Gamble House, for instance, finished 1909).

In this case, the real problem is a lack of standardization. If current standard techniques had been used, the 24x48 window would have worked. Or, using a 24x36 window and glass blocks, they'd have been the same thickness. Or the drywall had been there, or the whole damned thing been square.....so going retro solved very practical problems. For instance, the glass blocks are about 1/2 inch depressed from the drywall (they're similarly depressed from the stucco outside, so it isn't like I could borrow from the one for the other). I did a "picture frame" of oak strips to make up the difference. The fact that this complex structure is visually interesting and shows off the woods is a nice bonus.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 04:08 AM (kaalw)

808 Jeez Zakn, they're gonna turn you into a crispy critter at this rate. It's looking like I'll get my two days off this weekend, thank God

Posted by: zeera at August 23, 2012 04:10 AM (XtxRN)

809 ""I think you should cover all the walls in your house with that oak panneling.""


Yeah, gotta love wood walls, has a nice early american shit shack feel to it. When I got my house the chucklehead who owned it had paneled the family room with a dark cheap paneling, and he had the balls to paint all the molding black AND put a dark brown rug in the room. I felt like I was living in a dirty cigar box. I gutted the pos down to the studs. The only wood in there now is the oak floor I put in.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 04:11 AM (FMbng)

810 809
""I think you should cover all the walls in your house with that oak panneling.""


Yeah,
gotta love wood walls, has a nice early american shit shack feel to it.
When I got my house the chucklehead who owned it had paneled the family
room with a dark cheap paneling, and he had the balls to paint all the
molding black AND put a dark brown rug in the room. I felt like I was
living in a dirty cigar box. I gutted the pos down to the studs. The
only wood in there now is the oak floor I put in.


Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 04:11 AM (FMbng)


After moving in, we discovered that one wall of the LR/Dining nook (the one with the fireplace) was paneling over studs. No insulation, no drywall, nada. Tried to hang a picture, went right through. Some genius in the intervening years had floated it flat with drywall compound and applied a weird seagrass wallpaper.Tried to strip the wallpaper, and had chunks coming off that had traces of original paneling grooves, finally figured it out.

I'm sure you'll all be shocked to know that it now has insulation and drywall.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 04:17 AM (kaalw)

811 hot damn, finally finished this design for a bench seat. Now hopefully I can build it after work and Saturday to meet the deadline on Saturday night

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 04:17 AM (tw6Ar)

812 gotta go kids. goodnight.

Posted by: jc at August 23, 2012 04:19 AM (ufJKx)

813 ""In this case, the real problem is a lack of standardization.""


yeah not back then. Wall studs were rough cut and it was up to the plasterer to actually make straight walls, and they seem to size the windows according to the space they could shove them in. 90% of the work I did were in houses built between the 1880's and 1930's. Mostly kitchens and baths, but a lot of times it was whole interior remodeling. It always involved a long list of problems to be overcome. I'm not shy about saying the old houses have charm, but they totally blow ass to work on.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 04:24 AM (FMbng)

814 Good night, JC!

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 04:30 AM (4ixH5)

815 ""After moving in, we discovered that one wall of the LR/Dining nook (the
one with the fireplace) was paneling over studs. No insulation, no
drywall, nada""


yeah when I gutted the family room I found out the assclown before me used old suspended ceiling tiles for insulation for the front wall. The dude who had this place was the original owner, but he did an endless amount of stupidity in it. Every time I go to do something I find hidden surprises. Some people just need their ass removed.

Posted by: Berserker at August 23, 2012 04:30 AM (FMbng)

816 I really need to learn how to weld

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 04:34 AM (tw6Ar)

817
1) Sanctity of life
2) Rights of the minority
I do not believe the 51% should impose their morality on the 49%
If you don't like abortion, get you ass off the couch and convince people to eschew it.
It should not be a matter of law.

Posted by: RokShox at August 23, 2012 04:44 AM (r2y+f)

818 The Graves family -- that did a fairly successful garage conversion in 1986 -- evidently had a "project-of-the-month-club" thing going on with some buddies. That's how we ended up with kitchen countertops of four different heights when we moved in (since remedied with The Great Kitchen Makeover of '04). If any had leftover parts, they'd put 'em in their own houses in someplace unusual -- we have lovely upper cabinets in our laundry room, probably from some kitchen somewhere.


On the other hand, there were several less-successful ideas -- putting in cheesy Home Depot cabinets, then laying tile to meld them in. Can't pull the cabinets without leaving a gaping hole in the tile.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 04:46 AM (kaalw)

819 Should be able to grab a welding class at a votec for pretty cheap.

Posted by: Zakn at August 23, 2012 04:51 AM (7F9i5)

820 Pro-life folks are doing it wrong.

Gotta ban abortion incrementally.

How will any fetus be safe while wire hangers are still plentiful throughout the land?

Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 04:52 AM (4ixH5)

821 820
Pro-life folks are doing it wrong.

Gotta ban abortion incrementally.

How will any fetus be safe while wire hangers are still plentiful throughout the land?


Posted by: Robert's Invincible Rape Sperm at August 23, 2012 04:52 AM (4ixH5)


Pro-life folks are doing it wrong. They should spend all their time trying to recruit from the few surviving sons and daughters of the pro-choice folks. After all, it's not like they'll be outnumbered.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 23, 2012 04:55 AM (kaalw)

822 Should be able to grab a welding class at a votec for pretty cheap.

Posted by: Zakn at August 23, 2012 04:51 AM (7F9i5)

I know, I just don't have the time even though it would help immensely with furniture making

Posted by: The Dude at August 23, 2012 04:58 AM (tw6Ar)

823 I am Pro-Life and right now I would be happy with a government that did not force tax payers to pay for abortions or use tax payer funds to fund planned parenthood. Keep in mind that a government that is powerful enough to police what is morally right or wrong is powerful enough to redefine what is morally right or wrong at a whim.

Posted by: Drew in MO at August 23, 2012 04:59 AM (MkgGw)

824 Chuck Thompson is a faggot.

Posted by: General Zod at August 23, 2012 05:19 AM (2+bRt)

825 FYI...the Akin contact email in the sidebar is not longer accepting email. I hope that's a sign he's gotten flooded with requests to drop out.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at August 23, 2012 06:01 AM (qEkGZ)

826 Haven't read the entire thread but in case no one got the "stump the band" from early on it's from Johnny Carson.
Letterman and Leno aren't worthy to lick wash his toes.

Posted by: teej at August 23, 2012 06:05 AM (tWrwm)

827 I'm sure it's coincidence; about this time yesterday, referring to the insane KayInMaine, I wrote 'bless her heart'. Then I read it ~ 100 times yesterday. that mem got old quick. But, I get what's to like. It's reminiscent of Reagan's ;well, there you go, again. It's a very nice way to say, "You're batshit crazy." And, squishes like that tone.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 23, 2012 06:10 AM (mxnUd)

828 I'm not a southerner, but it's obvious to me that racism in the Northeast is far worse than racism in the south.

The real topic this book raises is tiresome bigotry against southerners.

Posted by: Village Idiot at August 23, 2012 06:11 AM (utXSy)

829 My name's teej, and I'm a bigot.

All libs are idiots.

And barky is a lying, racist, elitist, corrupt, freedom hating, dictator wannabe.

Posted by: teej at August 23, 2012 06:40 AM (BfZ1r)

830 jimi ray- New England is small in area and has a small population. And most of its population is very white. The genetics there is homologous. Most everyone is the same. Very little urban sprawl. All this makes for a better learning environment. Compare a mostly white suburb schooltest scores with an inner city school test scores. So congrats. You are from a part of the country with few large cities and almost no diversity. The rest of us deal with the real world. If you see one of the 34 minorities that live in New England remember to wave.

Posted by: Case at August 23, 2012 06:47 AM (gyQY/)

831 Good Morning all. Chuck Thompson is an idiot and his book is a pack of lies with zero real research. Obviously he came down to a bar somewhere in redneckville spouting his BS and somebody beat the hell out of him.


I have lived all over the country, North, South, East, and West. The most racist person ever met was a guy in the Navy from North Dakota. The first black he ever met was in the Navy and he soon learned that the cat IV blacks in the Navy were not the "best of the bunch".


The only place where I have ever seen a live KKK march and parade was in MD. In fact, the States with the highest KKK membership are IL and IN.


Sure there are bigots here, there are bigots in NY, and there bigots in CA. And This Thompson SOB is a biggot as well. My word for him is he can kiss my redneck ass.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (YdQQY)

832 Mornin' Vic.
Wish me luck folks. Bumped out of my job Monday. Today is day long classes to "help in transition".
57 and starting over,,, again.

Posted by: teej at August 23, 2012 06:48 AM (/BwGa)

833 Of the 11 pop culture references we will not get only one is one I did not know about. Never heard of Reula Lenska.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 06:50 AM (YdQQY)

834 Morning teej. Good luck. Are they paying you for the classes? If not I would skip them. 57 is a tough age to start job hunting at unless you are in a field that is screaming for people.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 06:52 AM (YdQQY)

835 News up

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2012 06:54 AM (YdQQY)

836 Anyone still undecided at this late date should be banned from voting.

Posted by: steve walsh at August 23, 2012 07:02 AM (4KT6I)

837 "Oh and apparently Ohio and Illinois are now part of the South since some of Thompson's examples of Dixie backwardness are located there."

IIRC, Southern Illinois was long seen as being rather Southern.

Posted by: pst314 at August 23, 2012 07:35 AM (mFPMV)

838
Forgot who said it but it's worth repeating:

"North, east, and west are directions. The South is a place."

The most prejudiced place I've ever visited was upstate New York. They even hate each other.

Posted by: Libra at August 23, 2012 08:54 AM (kd8U8)

839 Why aren't there any cries from the media about anti-religious bigotry? The author shows his hatred of Christians with the fish symbol on the cover. Imagine the reaction if a conservative "manifesto" book had a symbol of the Muslim faith on the cover and talked about how our country would be better off "only if..."

Posted by: Restless at August 23, 2012 09:36 AM (/wpH/)

840 My sister and my brother-in-law--a white guy--just moved to ::::shudder:::: Texas! (No worries, Texans. They both vote R.)

I'll be along directly.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 23, 2012 10:11 AM (6kWFm)

841 Oh and thanks for the link to my co-blogger!

Posted by: baldilocks at August 23, 2012 10:12 AM (6kWFm)

842 If only New England and New York left the Union in the War of 1812 like some of them wanted....

See two can play that game. The Northeast is a declining power in this country and this book is just their jealously coming out. They have regulated and taxed themselves into decline.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 23, 2012 11:50 AM (rwioF)

843 Gas the racists!

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at August 23, 2012 07:00 PM (5e6JG)






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