#MATH (AOSHQDD U.S. Senate Status)

AKA: Chill the f*** out.

Missouri was a gimme, now its likely gone.
Maine is probably gone too, Slu says hold on, I call that a loss.
I see us holding Nevada and Indiana comfortably, esp after R ads hit in Indiana to tie the Democrat to Obamacare. Scott Brown has enjoyed a lead over Fauxahontas, so with this holding we are down 1 seat to 46.

Add Nebraska. That is a given, and gets you to 47.

Add Wisconsin. Baldwin has failed to make any ground, Thompson has near-perfect Republican unity and enjoys an advantage with Independents, that gets you to 48.

Add Montana and North Dakota, where internal polling shows Ds with a slight lead but public polling a different story, and where Republicans will have a monetary advantage for the cycle.

That's 50.

Romney-Ryan means 51- because VP Ryan tie-breaks the Senate.

Problem solved, without Missouri. Or Florida, Ohio, New Mexico or Virginia for that matter. Wins in any of those states gets you to 51 outright. Consider those "call of history/RINO" insurance states.

In terms of odds, I put our chances at capturing 51 seats outright at about 50/50. Getting to 50 seats? 75%. So while Missouri is a slept-on-boner-of-a-pain, all is not lost.

In terms of how likely each seat goes?
100% Nebraska, 99% Wisconsin, 90% Montana, 75% North Dakota, 60% Virginia, 50% Florida, 40% New Mexico/Ohio, 35% Hawaii/Missouri, 25% Michigan, <10% Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Connecticut.

There are more paths to a Senate majority than there are for Romney to hit 270 electoral votes, and with recent polling in the midwest, southwest and south, that's a lot of paths.

To contribute to the competitive races:
MONTANA- Rehberg
WISCONSIN- Thompson
NORTH DAKOTA- Berg
FLORIDA- Mack
VIRGINIA- Allen
OHIO- Mandel
NEW MEXICO- Wilson
and lets not forget Scott Brown of Massachusetts, facing his own fight.

Slu had also suggested we don't abandon Summers in MAINE, so send him a few bucks too.

Posted by: CAC at 08:31 PM



Comments

1
ummm, first?

Posted by: Ohiogal at August 21, 2012 08:37 PM (SAYgH)

2 I was told there would be no math on this blog.

Posted by: TwoStar at August 21, 2012 08:37 PM (3qXPO)

3 Would you be so kind as to post the Senate donation list?

My wallet has a painful need to do some donatin'.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 08:37 PM (Wp4rQ)

4 Yeah, Maine is probably a loss. Still, one can dream!

Posted by: Slublog at August 21, 2012 08:39 PM (SjVZP)

5 CAC, I'm surprised you have Florida at only 50%. Seems much stronger from here.

Posted by: TwoStar at August 21, 2012 08:39 PM (3qXPO)

6

There are more paths to a Senate majority than there are for Romney to
hit 270 electoral votes, and with recent polling in the midwest,
southwest and south, that's a lot of paths.



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I like that sentence. Maybe now we can all start climbing down from that ledge.

Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 21, 2012 08:40 PM (P6QsQ)

7 slept-on-boner-of-a-pain

Those aren't legitimate boners.

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 08:40 PM (vjyZP)

8 Akin, you jerk. All you had to do was adhere to your talking points for another 10 weeks, how hard is that?

Also, the slept-on boner line is pretty damned funny.

Posted by: andrew at August 21, 2012 08:41 PM (65QIv)

9 You're trying to use percentages to convince those who believe that 15% is a majority?!

Posted by: Gerry at August 21, 2012 08:42 PM (JKq+J)

10 CAC that's good and sorta what I guessed. What I am wondering and I want a no bullshit SWAG is what you think the impact is on turnout and EV model? I have a feeling at least 5% more of the weak Bambi fans are coming to the dance now, and I don't think we will make that up in SoCon sitouts.

What say you?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 08:42 PM (LRFds)

11 Remember Republicans vote on Tuesday, November 6th and Democrats vote on Wednesday, November 7th.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 08:42 PM (Wp4rQ)

12 Asked last thread late, so will ask here. Does MO have a sore loser law? Could anyone still enter the general?

Posted by: dogfish at August 21, 2012 08:42 PM (N2yhW)

13 Write-in for MO could still work if the GOP pick the right person and pour millions into behind that person. Akin would have the R but the write-in will have the real money and run under the Tea Party. Draft Kit Bond out of retirement to save the world. Or something like that.

Posted by: TJexcite at August 21, 2012 08:43 PM (PNDql)

14 This is a smart military blog with a #math additive for extra punch.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 21, 2012 08:43 PM (fU0YZ)

15 But . . . but . . . but . . .

You don't understand, this means I'll have to put up with Claire Bear for ANOTHER SIX FUCKING YEARS!!!1eleventy!!11!!

(I said I was done with this before. Turns out, not so much.)

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2012 08:43 PM (smvTK)

16 6 Mama Winger,

and not to be a wetblanket, but Akin KABLOW has not hit the polls yet....

I'll cross my fingers.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 08:43 PM (LRFds)

17 12 dogfish,

Yes a sore loser law, no primary loser can run without GOP approval and the GOP cannot field two candidates "formally".

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 08:44 PM (LRFds)

18
Boners are a sin.

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 08:44 PM (Z3bkC)

19 What is this math you speak of?

Posted by: President Obama, Constitutional Scholar and All Around Genius at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (/YJYi)

20 Maybe Linda McMahon can take CT away from that idiot Chris Murphy who is much like SCOAMF in that he doesn't like to show up to work either.

Posted by: Jaimo at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (v0el1)

21 For once, I'll forgive the math on the blog.



Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD/Whiteboard 2012 at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (Gk3SS)

22 Have frustrated atheists posted any anti-christian screeds in this thread yet?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (uhAkr)

23 Thx. ...but with GOP approval... ...lets move that direction. Eazy Breezy.

Posted by: dogfish at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (N2yhW)

24 12



Posted by: dogfish

Jim Geraghty said there is a sore loser law in MO. http://tinyurl.com/8fdk449

Posted by: TJexcite at August 21, 2012 08:46 PM (PNDql)

25 GOP always seem to defeat themselves. The number one strategy for the democrats is to stop talking, wait for the republicans to shot their muth off and let the main stream media do it best work.

Even if the GOP gets 50 one of them will flip just like Jeffers did years ago.

Posted by: Airandee at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (9GHCK)

26 #10

This is the important effect. Even a slight bump for Obama with independent female voters is trouble.

There is no comparable upside for this.

Posted by: Paper at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (UOC+H)

27 I see. So we throw a touchdown, then get an onside kick, throw another touchdown, another onside kick recovered, and....

Wow, and I was worried we might lose.

Thanks CAC! Oh, and brilliant move, dismissing the internal polling for the public polling. Which is always more accurate, except when it isn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (2pG7H)

28 22
Have frustrated atheists posted any anti-christian screeds in this thread yet?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (uhAkr)

Not yet, give Gerry time.

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (/YJYi)

29 DESCARTES RESEARCH GROUP NORTH CAROLINA
ROMNEY 56%
OBAMA 38%

Remember, NO bounce.

Posted by: CAC at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (LfLY7)

30 What if we get Akin and Biden in the same room?

Will they annihilate each other like an electron and a positron?

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (Wp4rQ)

31 Dude it's just a clump of cells. Or an avocado. Science yo.

Posted by: Gerry the Genius at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (60GaT)

32
That's 50...



The reelected Scott Brown goes independent because he "believes in bi-partisan solutions and wants everyone to have a say in our national dialog."* Votes for Reid and gets a plum committee chairmanship.


*wants to Leibermann into his old age.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (kdS6q)

33 Hi

Posted by: Alexander at August 21, 2012 08:48 PM (1/13k)

34 Seems GOP voters are less forgiving then liberals. There was a senator in Massachusetts who drowed a woman and the voters had no issue with that.

Posted by: Airandee at August 21, 2012 08:48 PM (9GHCK)

35
"100% Nebraska, 99% Wisconsin, 90% Montana, 75% North Dakota, 60% Virginia, 50% Florida, 40% New Mexico/Ohio, 35% Hawaii/Missouri, 25% Michigan, <10% Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Connecticut."

I'm on it...

Posted by: Optimizer at August 21, 2012 08:48 PM (As94z)

36 Did the sore loser sleep on his boner?

That's what I want to know.

Posted by: andrew at August 21, 2012 08:48 PM (65QIv)

37 Have frustrated atheists posted any anti-christian screeds in this thread yet?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 08:45 PM (uhAkr)

That's it, toss in some gasoline.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 08:48 PM (Wp4rQ)

38 http://www.tmz.com/2012/08/21/prince-harry-naked-photos-nude-vegas-hotel-party/

Prince Harry gets naked with girls in Vegas. It's good to be a Prince

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2012 08:49 PM (05RcU)

39 Even Pete Hoekstra is polling better again in Michigan against Stabenow.

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2012 08:49 PM (r2PLg)

40 Kyrillos in NJ too! He might not be the most conservative, but he's damn well better than Corzine appointee Bob Menendez. #NJSen on Twitter guys!

Posted by: NJ Libertarian (@BadMesmer) at August 21, 2012 08:49 PM (R79sT)

41
DESCARTES RESEARCH GROUP NORTH CAROLINA

ROMNEY 56%

OBAMA 38%



Remember, NO bounce.

Wait, what? Is that legit?

Posted by: andrew at August 21, 2012 08:50 PM (65QIv)

42 I like these numbers.

Posted by: Jim Jeffords at August 21, 2012 08:50 PM (z6KMg)

43 I have Pat Robertson on my side and he was our 41st president, so just chill OK?

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 08:50 PM (60GaT)

44 The reelected Scott Brown goes independent because he "believes in bi-partisan solutions and wants everyone to have a say in our national dialog."* Votes for Reid and gets a plum committee chairmanship.


*wants to Leibermann into his old age.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (kdS6q)

Except he won't. Through and through he says he'll undo Ocare even if hes lefty on other things. frankly thats the only thing that counts right now.

Posted by: CAC at August 21, 2012 08:50 PM (LfLY7)

45 38

Knight jumps Queen!

Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 08:50 PM (MMC8r)

46 forgive for being a moron, but come Nov they will say Akin who

it will be plus or minus one

Posted by: akak at August 21, 2012 08:50 PM (nk+tC)

47 There will be a break one way or another before the election, and the factors that determine the 2 or 3 point national break that decides the election will probably be the same effect that breaks 3 - 5 seats for one party's candidates or the other.

This is unlikely to have an effect this large, but there is a clear danger in handling this.

Posted by: Paper at August 21, 2012 08:51 PM (UOC+H)

48 @31 they clump of cells is a human being.

Posted by: Alexander at August 21, 2012 08:51 PM (1/13k)

49 DESCARTES RESEARCH GROUP NORTH CAROLINA
ROMNEY 56%
OBAMA 38%

Remember, NO bounce.
Posted by: CAC at August 21, 2012 08:47 PM (LfLY7)
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So what you are trying to say is that NC is a toss up?

Posted by: The Archhitect, Karl Rove at August 21, 2012 08:52 PM (jucos)

50
sockOFF

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2012 08:53 PM (nm6eP)

51 MSNBC has a new poll out, trumpeting a 4 pt Obama lead...
With a 6 pt. Dem advantage in those poll'd...
And a 9 pt advantage of those who voted Obama over McCain last election..

so... even in this way tilted sample... Ob

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2012 08:53 PM (lZBBB)

52 Why do we even get athiests here.

Posted by: Alexander at August 21, 2012 08:53 PM (1/13k)

53 I haven't seen any Connie Mack ads here in Fla but I've seen plenty of Nelson ads - they're all relentlessly negative attack ads. Of course, Nelson has nothing to run on since he's been Reid's butt buddy for the past six years.

Posted by: rabidfox at August 21, 2012 08:54 PM (HlzEB)

54 what is the national partisan registration breakdown? honest question.

Posted by: JParker at August 21, 2012 08:54 PM (60GaT)

55 % of Americans who believe in The Devil - 70
% of Stupid Party hacks who laugh at those believers - 100
% of Stupid Party hacks who get that there's a problem here - 0

Posted by: Gerry at August 21, 2012 08:54 PM (JKq+J)

56 Thanks for the donation list, CAC!

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 08:54 PM (Wp4rQ)

57 CAC don't know what the polling says but Hoekstra beats Stabmenow in MI

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 21, 2012 08:54 PM (R/8dI)

58 Is it really too much to ask of some of the more tightly wound among us to take a glance at the Posted by: nickname/sockname before going off half cocked?

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2012 08:55 PM (smvTK)

59 also Alexander as sockpuppeteer extraordinaire i was just dissing Gerry the Science Guy a bit with that one.

Posted by: JParker at August 21, 2012 08:55 PM (60GaT)

60 >>>There are more paths to a Senate majority than there are for Romney to hit 270 electoral votes?<<<<

Not that I personally believe Romney would press it, but Ocare won't go if Obastard wins.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2012 08:56 PM (O1BLm)

61 The summers link pukes on itself.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 08:56 PM (Wp4rQ)

62 Is it really too much to ask of some of the more tightly wound among us to take a glance at the Posted by: nickname/sockname before going off half cocked?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2012 08:55 PM (smvTK)
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Sounds legitimate

Posted by: Todd Aiken at August 21, 2012 08:56 PM (jucos)

63 ...some of the more tightly wound among us

Well, there's your problem right there.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 21, 2012 08:56 PM (sfsM9)

64 So do you get off on posting inane comments Gerry? Some kind of perverse pleasure in being a dick?

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 08:57 PM (/YJYi)

65 Is it really too much to ask that some of the more bightly tuned among us frad the molasses punch dornmai kallodhalkdg;avnsza/fddf,. vvdfdffffffffff

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2012 08:58 PM (smvTK)

66 Soall hope is lost on taking the seat of Maria "The Whore of the Senate" Cantwell in WA?

If it gets tight, she may resort to vote for me and I will sleep with you.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 21, 2012 08:58 PM (C2//T)

67 Posted by: Gerry at August 21, 2012 08:54 PM (JKq+J)

Really, we want to know. What is it about airline food?

Posted by: fluffy at August 21, 2012 08:58 PM (O6q63)

68 Why do we even get athiests here.

Because this is a libertarian / conservative blog, not First Things. There do exist nonbelievers who agree with the Right- not just Christ0ph types who come in here to raise, um, hell.

Whether nonbelief is compatible with the Right is another question. But you asked about the nonbelievers as people, not the philosophical question.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo, lord of the chartreuse longbow at August 21, 2012 08:59 PM (QTHTd)

69 The summers link pukes on itself.

Very, very Zen.

Posted by: andrew at August 21, 2012 08:59 PM (65QIv)

70 If there's really a WAVE, that cornpone piece of shit Nelson is gone.

Posted by: USS Diversity-damus at August 21, 2012 08:59 PM (0CiTm)

71 Damn. Gotta stop drinking that battery acid.

Where were we?

Oh, yes.

Obama is a SCOAMF.

Carry on.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2012 08:59 PM (smvTK)

72 Nelson has nothing to run on since he's been Reid's butt buddy for the past six years.

That's slander! Nelson is not under the age of 18.

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 21, 2012 08:59 PM (HtUdo)

73 Akin even manages to insult the Swiss: http://is.gd/FKqSh7

Posted by: Gerry at August 21, 2012 09:00 PM (JKq+J)

74 Gerry's a self-important fuck, ain't he?

Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 09:01 PM (MMC8r)

75
Pete is just getting started here in Michigan.

Dem low enthusiasm will hold down turnout, this will hurt Debbie. A lot of Dems here already think that Obama will not carry the state. Some Romney coat-tails will helpHoekstra.

And just possibly the Tea Parties may just decide he is worth his salt, based on a fairly true conservative voting record.

We have our work cut out for us, there will be no rest till November.

But there may be great rewards then.

Posted by: Mister Money at August 21, 2012 09:02 PM (wN82N)

76
Gerry's a self-important fuck, ain't he?Posted by: nickless


I've been told that being a failure in real life will do that. Ain't that right, Erggy?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2012 09:03 PM (Q/1Jp)

77 Nelson has nothing to run on since he's been Reid's butt buddy for the past six years.

That's slander! Nelson is not under the age of 18.

Sorry Harry, but we all know that you're not that discriminating.

Posted by: rabidfox at August 21, 2012 09:04 PM (HlzEB)

78 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2012 09:04 PM (6o4Fb)

79 How many Florida voters are really gonna go for Romney and not Mack as well?

Posted by: The Q at August 21, 2012 09:04 PM (B/yDO)

80 We really need to pace ourselves. How are we going to generate this much vitriol over the next boneheaded gaffe.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM (2XIvU)

81 I don't mind the non-believers.

It's the ANTI-believers that I can't stand.

Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM (MMC8r)

82 Mandel just got $10.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM (Wp4rQ)

83 Baseball people: Stephen Strasburg is having a special game, and it's one of the last times you'll see him this year if you're not tuned in already

Posted by: The Q at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM (B/yDO)

84 Gimme an R
Gimme an E
Gimme a C
Gimme a O
Gimme an N
Gimme a C
Gimme an I
Gimme a fucking L
Gimme an I
Gimme a little A
Gimme a SHUN

Now shout out EXECUTIVE ORDER

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 21, 2012 09:06 PM (PH+2B)

85 Slept on boner of a pain is a piker

Posted by: stepped on bonner of a pain at August 21, 2012 09:06 PM (Bm4aK)

86 Hey CAC,

Are all the links except Rehberg supposed to not work?

Posted by: Lou at August 21, 2012 09:06 PM (xp1pq)

87 Mandel wins in Ohio if Mittney wins.

Posted by: Campbell S. Brown at August 21, 2012 09:07 PM (bDUMn)

88 Nope nope nope, Senates's going to be 100 Democrats and Obama's going to win all the electoral votes and 100% of the popular vote. You heard it here first, wingers.

Posted by: Dr. Gergenfly Tardyaso at August 21, 2012 09:07 PM (aHR5E)

89 I could look the other way if the damage started and ended with Missouri, but the left is going to try to tie every other candidate in the entire Republican Party to this guy (they're already trying that with Ryan) and Akin looks to be either so clueless or so full of himself that he'll go along with it.

We were a week into the Ryan pick and the Dems hadn't rendered any significant damage on him. Now they're working out a way to paint him as a nut.

Fantastic.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:08 PM (sefrH)

90 Baseball people: Stephen Strasburg is having a special game, and it's one of the last times you'll see him this year if you're not tuned in already
Posted by: The Q at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM (B/yDO)
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Yup. He is not even coming back in the playoffs or world series. The way they are playing they very well might not need him.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 21, 2012 09:08 PM (jucos)

91
This is a sign of where things are really going. Akin will be forgotten or considered a local irrelevancysoon enough. TheDems can run Akin ads all day every day andall it will do is get old. The shit economy will not be forgotten. Most abortion lovers care WAY more about the economy than abortion. The ones that do not fit that description were NEVER going to vote for Mitt anyway because they're libtard scum. We win on almost every issue. That will change as the libtards and gutter trash outbreed and out propagandize us, but for now all is not yet lost.


Akin is a short term blip/poll turner. Maybe the fool will lose us his state, but he's not going to lose us the war. Indeed, he may not even lose Mitt his state. There's this thing - you don't have to vote a straight ticket. I know - hard to believe, right?


Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:08 PM (jfeoD)

92 And Maine can have a fucking communist for all I care. Olympia Snowe wasn't even R enough to be INO.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 21, 2012 09:09 PM (PH+2B)

93 #79: Not sure Q. He's popular among the parasite crowd and, since he has seniority, is able to bring in some sweet Fed money to his base. So far Mack has been accused of trading on his father's name, improperly getting out of serious traffic problems, anger management problems, and drinking problems. Mack needs to hit on Nelson's voting record but so far we've heard diddly-squat from the man.

Posted by: rabidfox at August 21, 2012 09:09 PM (HlzEB)

94 Whether nonbelief is compatible with the Right is another question.

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The answer to which is yes.

Posted by: mediumheadboy at August 21, 2012 09:09 PM (aHR5E)

95 I can always tell when you guys start drinking.

Posted by: 44QuickPassOn2 at August 21, 2012 09:10 PM (EuW9O)

96 anyone know the answer to this? apologies if it already has been answered.=======================
can another candidate run as an independent, or just the 3, dem, repub, libetarian? How can an independent be stopped from running? is that a rule in MO?

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:10 PM (ACkhT)

97 73
Akin even manages to insult the Swiss: http://is.gd/FKqSh7


Posted by: Gerry at August 21, 2012 09:00 PM (JKq+J)

Don't you mean Obama? Anyways a comment stolen from this Swiss story:

"Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Obama does with mine."

Posted by: Billy Quizboy at August 21, 2012 09:10 PM (FEzSe)

98 From the visionaries who brought you "Who's Nailin' Paylin," comes "Who's Rapin' Akin..." this January.

Posted by: XXX Producers of America at August 21, 2012 09:11 PM (60GaT)

99 "Missouri was a gimme, now its likely gone."

Which leaves out of the analysis the disastrous echo effect that Akin is going to have on swing races all over the country.

Guess what? The _LA Times_ is out there right now with a scoop that the guy Akin got his evil-rape-sperm-detector nonsense from turns out to be Dr. Jack Willke, whose endorsement had previously been touted by... MITT ROMNEY. The top of the goddamned ticket. Who knows who else is going to end up tarred with that same brush?

Akin would be bad if the Akin effect were a local one confined to Missouri. It's not. This is national level collateral damage. So factor that into the analysis for those other swing Senate seats.

Someone referred to my dour comments about this earlier today as being "Buzzkillington" in nature. Fuck yeah. My own buzz has been killed stone cold dead and my mellow has been severely harshed. Losing otherwise easily winnable elections with unforced errors has that effect on me. So sorry.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 21, 2012 09:12 PM (ymG7s)

100 @89 that's not going to work. The GOP en masse has denounced Aiken and asked him to resign.

The conventions will suck all the oxygen out of this story, to say nothing of the debates.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:12 PM (uhAkr)

101 Momma always said elections was like a box a chocolates. You can pick the black, or the one that's red on the inside. Or you can pick the one that's nuts.

Posted by: Forrest "Todd" Akin at August 21, 2012 09:12 PM (2pG7H)

102 52
Why do we even get athiests here.

Posted by: Alexander at August 21, 2012 08:53 PM (1/13k


Actually, I'm under the impression there are quite a lot here, including some of the main writers (okay, if not full-scale atheists, at least non-religious). This blog isn't anti-religious people, but it's not like it's very religious either.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:12 PM (sefrH)

103 >>From the visionaries who brought you "Who's Nailin' Paylin," comes "Who's Rapin' Akin..." this January.

"...the only thing that's Akin is Todd's ass."

Posted by: Lou at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (xp1pq)

104 Baseball--channel?

Posted by: USS Diversity-damus at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (0CiTm)

105 Speaking of the convention: The Weather Channel is wetting their panties over the idea that a hurricane might hit Tampa and disrupt the Republican convention.

Posted by: rabidfox at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (HlzEB)

106 Time is on our side.

This will all pass. I really think we have been buying to much into the MSM meh.

MO? Fuck most of their cousins are their cousins and they never had sex.

That was rude.

The WAVE will carry it all and this dumb fuck will be a senator.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (3ZjAP)

107 it's OK to be a buzzkillington in times like these. i'm hoping it'll pass, especially since Obama's opposite-extremism on abortion is not a popular position (even if it doesn't involve the same dumb comment,) but we shall see.

Posted by: JParker at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (60GaT)

108 Funny,I don't remember this "torquewrench" fellow until the Akin story.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (6o4Fb)

109 I saw at least 1 poll with Lingle ahead in Hawaii. It's an open seat and she was pretty popular. We could swap RINOs- Maine for Hawaii.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:15 PM (4WQJ/)

110 Baseball--channel?
Posted by: USS Diversity-damus at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (0CiTm)
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MASN in the DC market

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 21, 2012 09:15 PM (jucos)

111 Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:15 PM (4WQJ/)
Yea, but wait until the Akin-stench gets into Hawaii.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:16 PM (ACkhT)

112 Every one who supports Akin, from Huckabee to his staff, needs to be told they will never work for th pubs again if they persist in this charade.

Akin won't succumb to pressure, he's on a mission from God. Maybe they will

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:16 PM (Dnbau)

113 @99. To be fair mitts association with that doctor is his problem.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:16 PM (2XIvU)

114 105 Speaking of the convention: The Weather Channel is wetting their panties over the idea that a hurricane might hit Tampa and disrupt the Republican convention.
Posted by: rabidfox at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (HlzEB)

________________

Hell if it gets us more viewers looking for-

ArmaConvention --I'll take it!

Posted by: tasker at August 21, 2012 09:17 PM (r2PLg)

115 When the cycle started, we were a shoe-in to take over the senate. Then Snowe's departure was an obstacle, now this dickhead in MO. Anyways, we still are good.

And there's no reason at all to think that democrat senate candidates might have their own surprises still to come. Breathe deep, and go help a republican get elected to the US senate.

Posted by: Schnack at August 21, 2012 09:17 PM (sl7j5)

116 can you say broken links?

Posted by: moron at August 21, 2012 09:18 PM (68nUO)

117 As a North Dakotan, Berg needs some fucking help. I think he can win but Heidi is adored here.....for some reason, she'll put up a strong attempt but with enough support Berg can win it.

What i'm worried about is that he won't get much, because "Hey, ND, so a lock." Don't call it a lock, Berg can still lose this. You gotta remember that ND had solid (D) reps/senators until 2010, if Berg wins we would have flipped both our senate seats and rep. chair.

Posted by: Cashin at August 21, 2012 09:18 PM (4Iz2n)

118 My goodness, I can't remember ever seeing this much hand wringing. Really. C'mon people. We can still win this. Akin will be forgotten by next week. Romney/Ryan are not stupid. They have proven that. No one with a brain cell gives a shit about abortion or gay rights or any of that shit right now. They care that their paycheck isn't going as far as it used to. They care they haven't had a raise in 3 years. They care they have BOTH kids living back home because one lost his job and the other is waiting patiently for the other to complete school. They care because mom needs help now with her medical bills. They care that gas is $3.59 a gallon. They care about the rising price of food and utilities. They care because the small business they work for is in real danger of going under and then THEY are out of a job. THIS is what we need to keep our focus on. Fuck Akin and his fucking horse. Let's get this done!

Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:19 PM (UljOc)

119 My own buzz has been killed stone cold dead and my
mellow has been severely harshed. Losing otherwise easily winnable
elections with unforced errors has that effect on me. So sorry.Posted by: torquewrench


And we're glad to know the elections are all about you.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2012 09:19 PM (Q/1Jp)

120 Florida is a likely R pickup, as Connie Mack the Eighteenth has beaucoup name recognition from his father and great-grandfather, etc. Bill Nelson is a hack with the charm of a moldy outhouse


Trayvonn Enterprises was an attempt to stir up The Base, who are 13 % of the pop and maybe 10 % of voters. Ryan and an effective use of the Medicare debate will stir up the Double-Secret Probation R Base: Cranky Old White People

Posted by: Tim in Timbuktu at August 21, 2012 09:19 PM (Dll6b)

121 Wasn't it Menken who said that the problem with democracy is that only psychopaths run for office? Not sure I agree with absolute statements like that but seems rather apt for Akin.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:19 PM (4WQJ/)

122 @89 that's not going to work. The GOP en masse has denounced Aiken and asked him to resign.

I'm watching it work. I've already seen it work with a couple people I know. Yeah, that's not a representative sample (I probably shouldn't go the "curious" route) and I hope this subsides. I hope you're right, but I thought the evidence was so overwhelming that the Jared Loughner storyline wouldn't be damaging to us either--you get enough people in the media behind one storyline, though, and spread it enough around people who aren't political junkies and, voila, you'll do some damage. You'll especially do some damage when you have a willing/clueless candidate helping you out.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:20 PM (sefrH)

123 Mandel just got $10.Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM That's a race that could go Repub. Brown is a dick and not that well liked personally. He comes off as a ditz.

Posted by: Deanna at August 21, 2012 09:21 PM (3nJk7)

124 torquewrench, do you like gladiator movies ???????????????

Posted by: Carl in Carlsbad at August 21, 2012 09:21 PM (Dll6b)

125 Funny,I don't remember this "torquewrench" fellow until the Akin story.Posted by: steevy

The USS Concern seems to arrive at odd times.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2012 09:21 PM (Q/1Jp)

126 Yea, but wait until the Akin-stench gets into Hawaii.

With the timezone change and the way that light and sound have to travel through the earth's core to get there, no way the Morlocks let this so-called "scandal" reach Hawaii before November.

It is known.

Posted by: Dr. Professor Akin, MD, DDS, SCOAMF at August 21, 2012 09:21 PM (q5NFp)

127
Ace...thanks for the Twitter wisdom today.

Posted by: NanceHanson at August 21, 2012 09:21 PM (PTC4e)

128 108Funny,I don't remember this "torquewrench" fellow until the Akin story.Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2012 09:14 PM (6o4Fb)Nor "Kristophr," who evidently bears a strong antipathy towards "fundies." Funny, that.

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 21, 2012 09:22 PM (az+j/)

129 "There's this thing - you don't have to vote a straight ticket. I know - hard to believe, right?"
Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:08 PM (jfeoD)

------------------------------

I guess it depends on how much McCaskill has worn out her welcome. We'll see. She might have been a little too clever for her own good. Just supposing the Lord's Own Biden manages to pull out a win over McCaskill,it will be a tricky task chaining that particular cannon to the Senate deck.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 09:22 PM (QjSgY)

130 It's human nature to overreact. Without it we wouldn't have sports talk radio and a lot of needless laws or the department of homeland security.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:22 PM (2XIvU)

131 Given the abysmal failure known as mcaskKILL, what makes you think the voters in the state of misery aren't stupid enough to vote for Todd anyway?

[I say this by right of being a FORMER resident]

Posted by: Blacksmith8✡ at August 21, 2012 09:22 PM (O2Gu6)

132 Is anyone planning on heading to the Convention, hurricane notwithstanding?

Posted by: USS Diversity-damus at August 21, 2012 09:23 PM (0CiTm)

133 @122 It's August. Anybody stupid enough to let this affect their voting habits will either forget about it by November in favor of the next shiny object or they weren't voting for us anyway.

What Mitt and Barry say at the conventions and debates will have much, much more effect on the elections across the board than this. This affects MO.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:24 PM (uhAkr)

134 Watching Hannity's interview with Ryan, I'd rather have him as president. He reminds me of a younger reagan.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:25 PM (ACkhT)

135
Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:19 PM (UljOc)



This. Let the libtards waste their ad budgets on Akin. We have more money, and 50 more winning issues. We win. Akin is a misfortune, but not a fatal one.


Michigan is leaning Right. Akin is not changing that, because nobody here cares about him except the hard core leftists anyway. Were you planning on their votes? Are you that retarded?

Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:25 PM (jfeoD)

136 Chiming in from NJ, I have to say Menendez is polling below 50. Nobody in NJ likes him. Christie has that persuasive quality that could make NJ interesting. Wait

Posted by: mantuaBill at August 21, 2012 09:25 PM (A0xmq)

137 Are you that retarded?
Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:25 PM (jfeoD)

Dude, never ask that question here.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 09:26 PM (Wp4rQ)

138 349 Found this article today that points out that what Akin said about rape rarely leading to pregnancy, has been a widely held view of major pro-lifers for DECADES:

http://tinyurl.com/9qsqxxg
From the article:

"While U.S. Rep. Todd Akin cited only "doctors" as his source of information about the rarity of pregnancy resulting from rape, it is two pages, from Mecklenburg's 1972 article, "The Indications for Induced Abortion: A Physician's Perspective," that have influenced two generations of anti-abortion rights activists hoping to build a medical case to ban all abortions without exception...

Mecklenburg's article was one of 19 in a book called "Abortion and Social Justice," published a year before the U.S. Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision...
The book was edited by a doctor and a lawyer, and funded by Americans United for Life, the major legal arm of the anti-abortion movement.
Americans United for Life was founded by Brent Bozell, a Catholic activist (and William F. Buckley's brother-in-law) who wrote for the National Review.
On Monday, the National Review's editors called for Akin to quit the race, saying there was "no evidence for Akin's biological claim."

That last part is really something.

Oh, and this:

"The dissemination of Mecklenburg's article may have had more to do with the influence of his wife, Marjory, an early opponent of abortion rights who was a chairwoman of the National Right to Life Committee, an adviser to Gerald Ford's 1976 presidential campaign and director of the Office of Adolescent Pregnancy Programs in the administration of President Ronald Reagan."

Akin did not just pull this out of his butt, it's a viewpoint held by pro-lifers since the '70s.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 21, 2012 09:15 PM (KL49F)


If this is correct, aren't all right to life candidates going to be pilloried on this?

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:26 PM (Dnbau)

139 134 Watching Hannity's interview with Ryan, I'd rather have him as president. He reminds me of a younger reagan.
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:25 PM (ACkhT)


Thinking the same thing. Has quite a bit of Ronaldus' sense of humor also.

Good trait.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 21, 2012 09:27 PM (x5v9i)

140 I've felt since the beginning that we were overreacting to the Akin situation.We haven't learned the Dem trick of just shutting the fuck up when one of our people says somethin stupid.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2012 09:27 PM (6o4Fb)

141
123 Mandel just got $10.Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 09:05 PM That's a race that could go Repub. Brown is a dick and not that well liked personally. He comes off as a ditz.
Posted by: Deanna at August 21, 2012 09:21 PM (3nJk7)


I see Mandel's ads and think the guy looks like a kid. And he's older than me. I hope he shoves Sherrod's face in the dirt.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 09:28 PM (GULKT)

142 When the Dems have to defend 23 seats why in God's name does our margin of victory seem so narrow? It seems like we'd be ecstatic with a pick-up of 4 seats. 2010 was a much less friendly map for the Republicans and we squeezed out 6 wins. We should have had 9 in 2010 but chose 3 bad candidates (Buck, Angle, O'Donnell). It just seems like lowered expectations.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:28 PM (4WQJ/)

143 this is not the stupid dick you were looking for...

(smoothly waves hand over eyes)

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:28 PM (Dnbau)

144 [137 Are you that retarded?
Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:25 PM (jfeoD)

Dude, never ask that question here.
Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 09:26 PM (Wp4rQ)


Heh.....

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 21, 2012 09:29 PM (x5v9i)

145 Akin is just a bump in the road. It will okay. Really.I still honestly think he could win Missouri. Anyone that does not live herehas no idea how much we hate that bitch. Still time for him to do damage control. By that I mean keep his trap shut til November.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:29 PM (UljOc)

146 If every repub entity has pulled their money from Akins, where is he going to get his money? (and how long will he last with no money)He cannot have that many donations, heck Iwas ready todonate to him before this all happened.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:29 PM (ACkhT)

147
Lets pull Mandel over the finish line for my buckeye state.

Washington is broken? Send in the Marine!!

Posted by: knob (R-OH) at August 21, 2012 09:30 PM (p5w11)

148 If this is correct, aren't all right to life candidates going to be pilloried on this?Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:26 PM (Dnbau)If is this was really widespread, why is this the first time I have heard it? I have spent 30 years among pro-life folks, helped picket the local abortionist office, was very close to the family ofa guy who has taken protesting abortion as his life's work, and I have never, ever, heard this before!

Posted by: Grey Fox at August 21, 2012 09:30 PM (az+j/)

149 145
Akin is just a bump in the road. It will okay. Really.I still honestly
think he could win Missouri. Anyone that does not live herehas no idea
how much we hate that bitch. Still time for him to do damage control. By
that I mean keep his trap shut til November.



He's got no funding mechanism left either official or from outside groups. In month he won't have money for TV ads.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:30 PM (4WQJ/)

150
Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 09:22 PM (QjSgY)



Point taken. But so long as Mitt wins, we don't even really need the Senate. He can waiver Deathcare out of existence. Obie has proven that the executive branch selectively enforces what laws it likes, spends any amount of money it wants, appoints who it wants, and basically ignores congress at will.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:30 PM (jfeoD)

151 A: the TSA.


Q: what we get when we overreact?

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:31 PM (2XIvU)

152 140 Steevy,

The problem is not just the media. You have captive audience in high school and college, you have the Federal work environment they all devolve into lib echo chambers. The media will not let go, look at the tax thing.

I am not going to pretend hos much worse he'd get today, but I knew from his "apology" and "prayer vigil" that somehow God told him, "Todd YOU need to make this right."

Akin heard something a lot different in that than I would...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:31 PM (LRFds)

153 @138 no, because that article is total nonsense.

The argument against aborting babies is pretty straightforward - they are human beings and innocent of their fathers' actions.

I've never heard that other crap until Aiken. If it were a
Major pro-life position, the GOP wouldn't be abandoning him.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:31 PM (uhAkr)

154 I'll send him $25 if he promises to keep his mouth shut. (j/k)

Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:32 PM (UljOc)

155
138....If this is correct, aren't all right to life candidates going to be pilloried on this?

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:26 PM (Dnbau)
---------

Yep.
This thing with Akin is the gift that just keeps giving.
Giving to the Donkeys, that is.
He has just made it harder....for everyone....in every race.

Posted by: wheatie at August 21, 2012 09:33 PM (mtRB0)

156 I gave to everyone, including Linda Lingle and Deb Fischer. The country my Dad, husband, uncles, friends, cousins fought for is worth it. I figure if we send the list on to our known friends who are Conservative, we can do some good.

As I posted on another thread, as an Oklahoman with real Cherokee heritage it gave me great pleasure to give Scott Brown money to help him defeat a former Oklahoman and non-Cherokee. I also enjoyed donating to Summers because my Liberal idiot boss is from Maine.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 21, 2012 09:33 PM (kXoT0)

157 146 John,

Claire and the DNC will give it to him which should be setting off alarms as her funding him should have set MO GOP alarms off.

This half wit truly thinks Claire is being nice and Huck is feeding that.

Huck needs about 60 pounds kicked off his body.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:33 PM (LRFds)

158 "Akin would be bad if the Akin effect were a local one confined to Missouri. It's not.
Guess what? The _LA Times_ is out there right now with a scoop that the guy Akin got his evil-rape-sperm-detector nonsense from turns out to be Dr. Jack Willke, whose endorsement had previously been touted by... MITT ROMNEY."
Posted by: torquewrench at August 21, 2012 09:12 PM (ymG7s)
Yeahh, no."The Network Revealed" and "Follow the Flowchart of Evil" stuff doesn't captivate anyone, right or left, for more than fifteen minutes. So either Good Luck With That, or Don't Sweat the Seven Degrees, depending on where you're coming from.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 09:33 PM (QjSgY)

159 155 Wheatie,

and should we lose enough he has set back the pro-life cause between 6-12 years.

"Good work Todd"

//God

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:33 PM (LRFds)

160 Yes when did our expectation become 51 seats. I thought we were shooting for 55 or more

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:34 PM (2XIvU)

161 Was away for awhile.

Baseball - MLB Network in most areas of the country. Some areas showing Yankees/WhiteSox

Posted by: The Q at August 21, 2012 09:34 PM (B/yDO)

162 I've felt since the beginning that we were overreacting to the Akin
situation.We haven't learned the Dem trick of just shutting the fuck up
when one of our people says somethin stupid.


When you have a sympathetic media, you can just shut up and, more often than not, that stupid thing is not going to do much damage to you.

When you don't have a sympathetic media, that's much less likely to happen.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:34 PM (sefrH)

163 The RNC needs to put their efforts to other close races that are winnable. Here, they need to start showing some pro-Allen, Anti-Kaine ads. Tim Kaine was the DNC chair for goodness sake. Let's help Allen beat Kaine. Then the path to 51+ becomes clear.

Then let's make Jim DeMint the Majority Leader instead of Squishy McConnell.

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at August 21, 2012 09:34 PM (pxur/)

164 If every repub entity has pulled their money from
Akins, where is he going to get his money? (and how long will he last
with no money)He cannot have that many donations, heck Iwas ready
todonate to him before this all happened.Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat


At this point he could just coast into the loser slot but I was disturbed* to see that McAssface funded some pseudo-negative ads against Akin that supposedly pushed primary voters towards him. So it's not unfathomable to think that some Clean Government PAC or NoLabels group can throw in a few bucks just keep him in the race.

*that's my passive aggressive way of admitting that I was wrong earlier today when another commenter noted that McAssface was part of the reason the primary voters voted for Akin.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2012 09:35 PM (Q/1Jp)

165 A: the TSA.





Q: what we get when we overreact?

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:31 PM (2XIvU)


Yep. And Bush was warned by conservatives that it was a TERRIBLE idea that would never do what it was supposed to, would be impossible to get rid of, and would unionize and become another permanent and twisted federal piece of shit. But, Bush was worried about what the left and the squishes would say if he didn't follow the recommendations of that insane 9/11 commission, which was the biggest joke of a leftist piece of shit we have seen. But ... being worried about "how it would look" not to follow the idiots, we got the TSA and are now stuck with it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 09:35 PM (X3lox)

166 153 BL,

Exactly, the usual weasel position is the easiest and best for the party nationally, BUT a simple I am staunchly pro-life no exceptions followed by I answered let's move on" I'd have his back.....

this is "different" a LOT "different".

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:35 PM (LRFds)

167 shutting up never worked for Bush

Didnt we hollar that he needed to stand up and defend himself?

Which is it

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:36 PM (Dnbau)

168 Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:33 PM (LRFds)
Actually he didn't even know that 1.5 million was spent by Claire to praise him in the primaries. How someone this dumbwitted got this far, I cannot figure out.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:36 PM (ACkhT)

169 thats just it. Akin is a dimwit. Some one must pull the strings and tell him what to do. Get to that person

Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:38 PM (Dnbau)

170 thats just it. Akin is a dimwit. Some one must pull the strings and tell him what to do. Get to that person
Posted by: thunderb at August 21, 2012 09:38 PM (Dnbau)


Call the DNC.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 09:38 PM (Wp4rQ)

171 130. When the Republican nominee for President asks you to drop out, when the head of the RNC asks you to drop out and tells you you won't be getting any cash and aren't welcome at the convention, when practically every senior Republican politician and political commentator asks you to drop out of a layup Senate race ... I don't think we are overreacting. I think we are echoing the concern of people who know exactly how toxic this can be if its not contained double plus fast.

Here's something that has been on the news all day. The Republican platform which is being drafted right now has language in it that states that Republicans do not support abortion with no exceptions. Not rape or incest. Same platform since Ronald Reagan but now it will be an issue.

Anything that allows Obama and the left to be on the offense in the worst economy in decades is weapons grade stupid. Akin is a dunce and he has given the left a club to beat us with.

Terrific.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2012 09:39 PM (TMB3S)

172 I've felt since the beginning that we were overreacting to the Akin situation.We haven't learned the Dem trick of just shutting the fuck up when one of our people says somethin stupid.

Not shutting up but turning it around and attacking the left's positions - i.e. how they abuse exceptions in law to totally destroy law, how they want to kill aborted babies born alive, how they promote the idea of abortion until the moment of delivery (which is as insane as it gets), ...

But, instead, our wonderful people prefer to turn on our own and show that they are better shots at conservatives than the left.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 09:39 PM (X3lox)

173 "It's the economy, stupid!"

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:40 PM (uhAkr)

174 we got the TSA and are now stuck with it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 09:35 PM (X3lox) Meh. Our side has nothing to lose from eliminating the TSA. It would win more votes than it would lose - that much is certain. Everyone knows its a joke. Everyone hates it.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:40 PM (jfeoD)

175 7 slept-on-boner-of-a-pain
You didn't build that boner.

Posted by: Barky O''Bumbles at August 21, 2012 09:40 PM (/TMxX)

176 so an independent can run, maybe they can get one of the nonprior candidates to run, ready to run with lots of superpacs, if Akin does not drop out by Sept 25th.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:41 PM (ACkhT)

177 What a bunch of nervous nellies. I have been coming to this Blog since 2007 and you guys always get caught up in the media who ha that goes on. Yes Akin said something dumb, but he has apologized and the new AD he is running to his fellow Missourian's (sp?) is very good. Mea Culpa.I predict he will win MO anyway. Mcasgill(sp? who cares!) is not popular in MO. In this realignment election 2012 is to be will carry him. ....thereare 23 DEM seats are up this yr only 10 GOP. All are safe even Scooter Brown in MA. GOP will win at least 7 to 9 seats. that includes Lingle in HA. She is ahead and will win by 10 or so. Akin did the right thing, he could have quit, but he faced his mistake, owned it, apologized to MO, the ADs when you see them online are compelling. You are right on contributions.. they all need dough, because the DEMs are broke and SS Obama/Biden are heading down.

Posted by: Allen D. Warren at August 21, 2012 09:41 PM (pbxRU)

178 @174 actually the TSA consistently polls well. I blame lack of knowledge among the general public.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:41 PM (uhAkr)

179 173
"It's the economy, stupid!"

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:40 PM (uhAkr)

Oh, God. Now you've done it.

Posted by: Adam at August 21, 2012 09:41 PM (/YJYi)

180 But, instead, our wonderful people prefer to turn on our own and show that they are better shots at conservatives than the left.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 09:39 PM (X3lox)


Someone that until 2 days ago believed that "if you got pregnant then you weren't raped" is not one of my own.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 09:42 PM (GULKT)

181 So clair-a-boo has found a reverse operation chaos and is thinking she has BOUGHT herself another term?

Well, what are YOU ALL gonna do about it?

Posted by: Blacksmith8✡ at August 21, 2012 09:42 PM (O2Gu6)

182 168 John,

We hope.

I'll ask again if Huck and Todd were trying to hurt as as an op what would be different?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:42 PM (LRFds)

183 We haven't had Maine since the Maine Sisters got elected. It's not a loss actually. It's a push.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2012 09:44 PM (4QI0N)

184 Not shutting up but turning it around and attacking the left's positions - i.e. how they abuse exceptions in law to totally destroy law, how they want to kill aborted babies born alive, how they promote the idea of abortion until the moment of delivery (which is as insane as it gets), ...


Alright--head out and get every sympathetic journalist, every sympathetic newspaper, and every sympathetic news anchor that we have on that right now.

Get set. Go!

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:44 PM (sefrH)

185 thank you, Prince Harry! (for the eye candy and the "squirrel")

Posted by: 56 and loving RR at August 21, 2012 09:46 PM (e9kQC)

186 What about Maryland's Cardin v Bongino race?

Maybe the RNC should divert some of that MO senate race monies to my neck of the woods?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2012 09:46 PM (zrpqj)

187 @174 actually the TSA consistently polls well. I blame lack of knowledge among the general public.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 21, 2012 09:41 PM (uhAkr) Among who? What populations are sampled? And with what wording of the questions? Most of us on the hard Right hate it. Anyone who flies should hate it. The leftards hate it. Sheesh... They're as useful as tits on a bull. Ah well. It would be pretty damn easy to run a campaignagainst them. Alas - one more issue that is too low on the priority list to fix.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 21, 2012 09:46 PM (jfeoD)

188 thunderb : One good thing about this brouhaha - it is shining a light on some bullshit that had been going around the Right for too long. It's good that it's being mucked out of our stables.

The timing sucks; but it could have happened on November the First, and that would have been worse.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 21, 2012 09:47 PM (QTHTd)

189 *sigh* and you know this will be fodder at the debate between Obama and Romney. Christ. I was starting to feel better...

Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:47 PM (UljOc)

190 Even if we get 51 who are we stuck with? Who are the power brokers? Lingle replacing Snowe? RINO. Scott Brown? Spends 75% of his time ripping his own party, pro choice. Tommy Thomspson? Pro-Choice RINO. I trust these RINOs to repeal O-Care or rather the 85% that can be repealed through reconciliation. We may have a slim majority but which of these folks is going to suck it up and vote for the Ryan budget or some similar budget?
These folks are going to be like Arlen Specter and his gang of 14 with judicial nominees. We need a solid conservative core. Missouri hurts.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:47 PM (4WQJ/)

191
Well, what are YOU ALL gonna do about it?

Masturbate to porn, like always.

Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 09:48 PM (MMC8r)

192 184 AD,

I'm ON IT!

We've turned the fact SCOAMF is ignoring Congress subpoenaing the FF records as opposed to asking for Mitt's taxes so well BREAK!

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:48 PM (LRFds)

193 163 The RNC needs to put their efforts to other close races that are winnable. Here, they need to start showing some pro-Allen, Anti-Kaine ads. Tim Kaine was the DNC chair for goodness sake. Let's help Allen beat Kaine. Then the path to 51+ becomes clear.
Here in northern Virginia Iseealmost as many anti Kaine TV ads as anti Obama ads. The battle is on.

Posted by: Barky O''Bumbles at August 21, 2012 09:48 PM (/TMxX)

194 Someone that until 2 days ago believed that "if you got pregnant then you weren't raped" is not one of my own.

Damn it, buzzion; we're supposed to be enemies, why are you saying shit that makes sense. Cognitive dissonance makes my head hurt.

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 21, 2012 09:48 PM (QTHTd)

195 Maine is winnable... the clueless lib vote is gonna be split between unknown democrap Cynthia Dill, and independent Angus King, the former gov who has name recognition but a rather pathetic spending and jobs record..... yes it is bad that snowe is a turncoat but because of the split, Charlie in Maine CAN WIN. Forget that douchebag from Missouri, lost cause..... dontate to Charlie Summers http://www.summersformaine.com/

Posted by: maineconservative at August 21, 2012 09:49 PM (QCTnA)

196 Alright--head out and get every sympathetic
journalist, every sympathetic newspaper, and every sympathetic news
anchor that we have on that right now.

Get set. Go!

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:44 PM (sefrH)


I said nothing about sympathetic journalists. I spoke about how conservatives need to handle the questions from antagonistic journalists. This ain't rocket science.

Next, the MFM will start back up on the "magic underwear" theme ... but what the MFM wants to do says nothing about how conseratives can easily deal with them - and not by shooting our own (buzzion, excepted, of course) in some idiotic self-sacrificial ritual.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 09:49 PM (X3lox)

197 189 jewell,

Cheer up. Romney is 3 times tougher a candidate than I hoped, and he may decide you know what fluke this I'm going downtown!

We'll see. Akin just hurt because literally ALL he had to do was be boring.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:50 PM (LRFds)

198 @191.. snort.. sputter.. uh.. nickless I think you owe me a glass of wine. If there is ever a meetup, and you are there.. I'm cashing inbaby.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:50 PM (UljOc)

199 We've turned the fact SCOAMF is ignoring Congress
subpoenaing the FF records as opposed to asking for Mitt's taxes so well
BREAK!


You know, that's the conciliation I'm going to take out of this. We're no longer talking about the tax records. Awesome.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:51 PM (sefrH)

200 Damn sock.

Posted by: TmxX at August 21, 2012 09:52 PM (/TMxX)

201 I'm gettin' 404'd on most of those links.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 21, 2012 09:52 PM (kaalw)

202 I wonder if under the radar the RNC and all its apparatus is basically saying any consultant who works to encourage Akin to continue will not be hired in the future. I cannot believe this man is coming to his delusion's statementsby himself, maybe his consultants are telling him to weather this. And maybe the RNC et all will be going after them next.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:52 PM (ACkhT)

203 sven.. true that. I have been impressed with him so far. He wants this more than anything and he will do whatever it takes to win. I am counting on it.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 21, 2012 09:52 PM (UljOc)

204 Well, what are YOU ALL gonna do about it?

Masturbate to porn, like always.

Posted by: nickless at August 21, 2012 09:48 PM (MMC8r)


Nah. Cheescake/Soft Core.

Gotta leave something to the imagination.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Fapping Imaginatively Since Time Immemorial at August 21, 2012 09:52 PM (x5v9i)

205 Let's not forget Pete Hoekstra in Michigan, running against Lil'Debbie Stabenow

https://transaxt.com/Donate/UU3ZY7/HoekstraforSenate/

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 21, 2012 09:52 PM (JMmQ9)

206 2627 signatures so far!

Posted by: Still Standing with Todd Akin at August 21, 2012 09:53 PM (zrpqj)

207 I said nothing about sympathetic journalists. I spoke about how
conservatives need to handle the questions from antagonistic
journalists. This ain't rocket science.


This is the best way to damage control.

If you can make the reason you're doing damage control go away (as opposed to it going on until the election), I prefer taking that route.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:54 PM (sefrH)

208 199 AD,

there you go see when life hands you a lemon....you're about to have a safe fall on you.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:54 PM (LRFds)

209 Any Missouri morons able to weigh in on whether a write in Senate campaign is possible? CouldMO Repubs quickly agree on an alternate candidate?

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at August 21, 2012 09:55 PM (/TMxX)

210 OK, Akin is not dropping out. So what do we do, we send money where we can and encourage others to do the same. I can't work directly for any of the candidates that I sent money to today, but, maybe, if enough bucks come in, one or two or three or five or nine of the races goes our way.

I had a long talk with myself and I asked myself this one question, "How much money was I willing to put on the line for the chance to not have Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader any more?" Then I divided that up and sent the money to 11 candidates.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 21, 2012 09:55 PM (kXoT0)

211 203 Jewell,

Seriously. Use word of mouth, if need be bust out Barry and the Linen Closet....

we can't quit, and we won't.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:55 PM (LRFds)

212 A: the TSA. Q: what we get when we overreact?
Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:31 PM (2XIvU)

-----------
Don't leave outthe DHS.


And when we don't pay attention, we get a weaponized Department of Education.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 09:56 PM (QjSgY)

213 PA in play? I know, I know but.... Voter ID passed, no more 115% Dem voter turnout in Philly. The fracking is turning the State ecomomy around INSPITE of GreenyProgDem lawsuits / lies and.....Casey is an empty suit with an even more empty head. It could happen. Maybe? Please????

Posted by: Jr at August 21, 2012 09:56 PM (BdVar)

214 193 Glad to see that you guys are seeing some ads. Down here in the land of "you didn't build that" I see a Romney followed by an Obama. Almost no senate ads at all yet. George was here for a meet and greet right after O. but no ads at all.

Posted by: RKinRoanoke at August 21, 2012 09:56 PM (pxur/)

215 I wonder if under the radar the RNC and all its apparatus is basically
saying any consultant who works to encourage Akin to continue will not
be hired in the future. I cannot believe this man is coming to his
delusion's statementsby himself, maybe his consultants are telling him
to weather this. And maybe the RNC et all will be going after them next.


Dana Perino just suggested the same thing--re: it's the consultants who are encouraging him to stay in so they can get paid.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:56 PM (sefrH)

216 206

VICTORY!....wait a sec ar theremore than 5300 people in MO?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 09:56 PM (LRFds)

217
Is two days of saying this is the end of the world enough? AD is right. The media will harp on this and harp on this. But the media doesn't always get their way. If they did, gay marriage would be allowed in every state and no one would own a gun. I'm ready to move on and fight the good fight. I can't wait until they overplay their hand.

That is what I think we are overreacting to. Not the initial reaction and trying to get him to resign. But the belief that this will be a costly drag on the entire nationwide ticket.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:56 PM (2XIvU)

218 Watching Ryan's interview gives me some faith, him not winning in novembermakes me lose that faith.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 09:57 PM (ACkhT)

219 160 Yes when did our expectation become 51 seats. I thought we were shooting for 55 or more
Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 09:34 PM (2XIvU)


I think we're shooting for intergalactic travel one day too, buuuuut.......

Posted by: Star Voyager Gus Grissom at August 21, 2012 09:57 PM (x5v9i)

220 There must be a way to punish Akin enough so that he drops the fuck out. Or they could try to get a Republican to run as an independent but that may require a shit ton of signatures before 9/30 and agreement on who goes ahead.
You can't write in one of the primary losers. FUCK. There's really not much wiggle room here.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:59 PM (4WQJ/)

221 Ohio, Lads!

Posted by: The Crimson Permanent Assurance at August 21, 2012 10:00 PM (Wp4rQ)

222 94 Whether nonbelief is compatible with the Right is another question.

Absolutely. From a believer (Catholic), I wouldn't have it any other way.

Fundies scare me.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 21, 2012 10:00 PM (x5v9i)

223 193: I think the Allen team has noworries aboutSW Virginia.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at August 21, 2012 10:00 PM (/TMxX)

224 221,

Imperium en Imperia!

Ave Ohio!

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:01 PM (LRFds)

225 On Greta's show: retired navy seal calls Barry "arrogant and condescending and belittling"

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:01 PM (ACkhT)

226 There must be a way to punish Akin enough so that he drops the fuck out.
Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 09:59 PM (4WQJ/)

We could lock him in a room with my ex-wife.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:01 PM (Wp4rQ)

227 Couldn't disagree more with your odds of Senate v. Romney. Getting 51 without Romney is about 33%. Getting 50 with Romney is much easier.

Posted by: Naj at August 21, 2012 10:02 PM (tAHf5)

228 I miss the good old days of COD and Angle.

Posted by: Ed Anger at August 21, 2012 10:02 PM (tOkJB)

229 220 There must be a way to punish Akin enough so that he drops the fuck out.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

(lack thereof)

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 21, 2012 10:02 PM (x5v9i)

230 There must be a way to punish Akin enough so that he drops the fuck out.

Paging BDSM moronette lurkers . . .

Posted by: Boulder Hobo at August 21, 2012 10:04 PM (QTHTd)

231 How about we offer Akin command of Moonbase Alpha?

Posted by: Newt at August 21, 2012 10:04 PM (Wp4rQ)

232 Better check your math again. In the Florida Primary last week, Mack was 20,000 short of Nelson - while Mack had a 5 way race and Nelson a 2 way race. If people stay on party, it will be a landslide Mack victory. Plus the RNC needs to start airing commercials about Nelson being the Senator who introduced Obamacare to the Senate - Tie him to it and take him down.

Posted by: Mycroft at August 21, 2012 10:04 PM (qDICb)

233 If you can make the reason you're doing damage
control go away (as opposed to it going on until the election), I prefer
taking that route.


Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 09:54 PM (sefrH)


Not if you do more damage in the process (which is obvious) and make people worry that you will turn on anyone in a second, both of which are the outcomes of these asinine circular firing squads that the center-right (and now right) launch into whenever there is a whiff of possible "embarrassment". I don't know that I would trust any of the people who turned on Akin in a second.

People hold all sorts of views, some of which we agree with, some of which we don't. There are many who share the same conclusions as I might but get there by radically different reasoning (poor reasoning on their parts). But that is life and it is not the most important thing in the world, especially when we can each provide our own reasoning and understanding of whatever the topic is - and then turn it all against the left. Showing a bit of loyalty and not being cowed by the despicable, lying scumbag left is much more important. Like I said, I wouldn't trust many of this bunch for any sort of backing and that is fatal. More damage than anything about a particular candidate or his ideas.

Of course, so few on the right have had the guts to defend America against the onslaught of the Indonesian Imbecile, calling the retard "intelligent" for YEARS and cowing to him and his asshole junta on the Hill. The Crybaby and Bitch Mcconell have helped the America-hating idiot for the whole time, scared to defend anything - lest they be viewed as attached to the "violent" Town Hallers and Tea Partiers ... I would have loved to see this sort of reaction to the Crybaby and McConnell as they fucked us over after the 2010 election ... but no. No one (of the punditry) cared too much about that. But they are going ape-shit over Akin and having to address the idea of abortion and rape exceptions 9which they should be able to handle, no matter what their position is).

This is all too pathetic, really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:05 PM (X3lox)

234
I freakin hate pixie.

This is not the hill to die on at this point in time. We can work on that later. Right now our Country is in peril, we need to gain seats in the House, gain control of the Senate andreturn some class and dignity to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

just my .02.

Posted by: Infidel at August 21, 2012 10:05 PM (rkWzl)

235 So clair-a-boo has found a reverse operation chaos and is thinking she has BOUGHT herself another term?Well, what are YOU ALL gonna do about it?

Posted by: Blacksmith8✡ at August 21, 2012 09:42 PM (O2Gu6)

That's what I'm sayin'. Ifthe GOP isstuck with Akin,they can still go negative on McCaskill. That shit does work. Let the lord provide for Todd, and take a shovel to the snake.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 10:06 PM (QjSgY)

236 225 On Greta's show: retired navy seal calls Barry "arrogant and condescending and belittling"
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:01 PM (ACkhT)


Those kookulas. I told them to stop being so generous.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 21, 2012 10:07 PM (x5v9i)

237
@190 Winning the Senate is about Obamacare and that is it.
This must happen or we will have this shitpile around forever....
It will become SS Medicare/aid and welfare
Something we may be able to tinker with but never get rid of.

Budgets and the rest are up to Romney and Ryan to work the congress.
Which I think they have the stones for although I didn't a few months ago.

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 21, 2012 10:07 PM (R/8dI)

238 235 66 Chevelle,

Maybe but we need to figure out whether we go write in, God calls Todd back up, or just napalm Obamacare in general mentioning Claire bear...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:07 PM (LRFds)

239 Summers link not working.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at August 21, 2012 10:09 PM (u2SdM)

240 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:05 PM (X3lox)





The fuckhead said if you got pregnant, you didn't get raped. The guy must go, end of story.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 10:10 PM (rLvxx)

241 There must be a way to punish Akin enough so that he drops the fuck out.

Forget about Akin. Punish his consultants and punish Huckabee. Just because.

But the belief that this will be a costly drag on the entire nationwide ticket.

I appreciate the comments, but if he damages tournout in MO, that'll damage the entire ticket. What really p***es me off is that we were making headway with Ryan. The Dems hadn't laid a hand on him. Now they're tying him to Akin and everybody has forgotten about the $716 billion cut in Medicare that seemed to be making headway just a couple days ago.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:10 PM (sefrH)

242 231 How about we offer Akin command of Moonbase Alpha?
Posted by: Newt at August 21, 2012 10:04 PM (Wp4rQ)



Nah.

It blew up.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC in Johnson County laughing at Cook County at August 21, 2012 10:11 PM (x5v9i)

243 Gee, a blog that talks about boozin' trannies with cursin' and the holy rollers here wonder if any atheists come here.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:11 PM (dZQh7)

244 But they are going ape-shit over Akin and having to address the idea of abortion and rape exceptions 9which they should be able to handle, no matter what their position is).This is all too pathetic, really.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:05 PM (X3lox)


You're still sticking your fingers in your ears and imagining this is about "opposed to abortion in all instances" insteadof "Until 2 days ago I really did think if you got pregnant then you weren't really raped" I see

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:12 PM (GULKT)

245 243 Sexy Pig,

it is confusing...but it's home.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:12 PM (LRFds)

246 The fuckhead said if you got pregnant, you didn't get raped. The guy must go, end of story.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 10:10 PM (rLvxx)


That's not what he said so just shut the fuck up, already. He said, originally, that it was "rare", which it is as a point of fact.

Go change your diaper.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:12 PM (X3lox)

247 My favorite Todd Akin quote justifying forced rape-pregnancies (which you'll soon be hearing a lot more of, I'd reckon)? "There are great people, a songwriter from Missouri and others, who are products of rape."

SING IT, TODD!

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 21, 2012 10:14 PM (/COnL)

248 This is all too pathetic, really.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:05 PM (X3lox)

Staying loyal to a clown like Akin is political suicide. Akin fucked up. The only person that deserves to suffer for that is Akin.

We want to win. To win we must get more votes. To get more votes we must be persuasive. To be persuasive we must avoid bad errors. Akin made that much more difficult.

It was Akin's job to make himself worthy of our loyalty and trust and treasure. He failed at his job and should step aside.

Your lament and analysis need some rethinking.

Posted by: Newt at August 21, 2012 10:14 PM (Wp4rQ)

249 246
The fuckhead said if you got pregnant, you didn't get raped. The guy must go, end of story.



Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 10:10 PM (rLvxx)



That's not what he said so just shut the fuck up,
already. He said, originally, that it was "rare", which it is as a point
of fact.

Go change your diaper.


That is what he said and what he meant dickhead. He believed that women's body have a magic rape shut off valve.

Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 10:15 PM (4WQJ/)

250
Posted by: naes at August 21, 2012 10:15 PM (4WQJ/)


Go argue with Jeff B. He seems to disagree with you about this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:16 PM (X3lox)

251 Get thee to Space, Newt!

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:18 PM (Wp4rQ)

252 @240, but the guy is not going. So now what? Do we continue to harp on it, or do we now shut up about it? Will we be doing more or less damage by leaving it alone? I think it is a legitimate question at this point. You can keep saying he must go. But he is not. What's next?

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 10:18 PM (2XIvU)

253
Congrats Akin, you just lost anyway. What a turd.

Posted by: Fresh at August 21, 2012 10:19 PM (O7ksG)

254 Yeah, Aken said it was rare that a witch drowns, but that most witches float, and its the innocent womenfolk drown, so its all cool everyone.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:19 PM (dZQh7)

255 Not if you do more damage in the process (which is obvious) and make
people worry that you will turn on anyone in a second, both of which are
the outcomes of these asinine circular firing squads that the
center-right (and now right) launch into whenever there is a whiff of
possible "embarrassment". I don't know that I would trust any of the
people who turned on Akin in a second.



TPOP, find me a major Dem who will go in front of a video camera right now and advocate:

killing aborted babies born alive, and promoting the idea of abortion until the moment of delivery

and I'll go along with this plan. (Yes, I know Obama supported a bill to keep doctors from assisting babies who were born alive. We bring that up--he says the bullshit he already said: "I was doing it for a procedural reason to protect other aspects; not because I favored that" and the issue goes away.)

More importantly, find me sympathetic journalists, sympathetic newspapers, and sympathetic reporters who are willing to pepper the Democrats with it for a few months.

We don't have that.

So, this route is a non-starter.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:19 PM (sefrH)

256 "...God calls Todd back up..."

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:07 PM (LRFds)

Hehheh...I'm assuming you mean god Lumberg calls Todd back on the Holy Hotline and says, "Todd,ummm...about that Senate Seat...yeah, I'm gonna need you to do something different for me this week...."

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 10:19 PM (QjSgY)

257 252 SH,

shun him so we can try to defuse this...if the MSM won't let go ask them about Barack and linen Closets

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:19 PM (LRFds)

258 @240, but the guy is not going. So now what? Do we continue to harp on it, or do we now shut up about it? Will we be doing more or less damage by leaving it alone? I think it is a legitimate question at this point. You can keep saying he must go. But he is not. What's next?
Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 10:18 PM (2XIvU)

I gave money to the dude in Ohio and will soon give some to others.

Give money and other help as you can. Cancel out as much of the Akin damage as possible.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:20 PM (Wp4rQ)

259 >>> I think the Allen team has noworries aboutSW Virginia.

Exactly the opposite in fact. I have a fairly strong dislike for Allen, personally, but I know people on his campaign team and they're good guys, very pro and very solid. Not only are they not worried about SW Virginia, they know it's a major source of votes and strength and are working overtime to max out there.

What they're worried sleepless about is NoVA, especially the formerly reliably GOP counties like Loudon, Fauquier, and Stafford which cockpunched him in 2006 and went for Obama in '08. They swung super-hard back to McDonnell in '09 (but then again McDonnell was such a juggernaut that he actually won FAIRFAX), so there's real hope.

Allen (and Romney) will win if 1.) those swing NoVa counties can be brought back on board; 2.) they get high turnout in the rural areas, particular in the coal country of SW VA; 3.) Wilder is only 'meh'-level engaged in turnout for the Richmond Dems...and this last is a good sign for us given his fondness for McDonnell and Romney -- even though he'll never openly endorse. But he hates the state Dem party and our guys are willing to kiss the ring.

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 21, 2012 10:20 PM (/COnL)

260 @ SH...September 25th has not arrived. He can still honorably withdraw.

How about all of your so-cons call your pastor up tonight and get 'er done?

I solemnly promise than when a libertarian-leaning candidate I like mentions "legitimate rape" I will do my best to get him to drop out and not whine and defend his "misunderstood" comments.



Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:21 PM (dZQh7)

261 Again, all comments at so-cons not directed at the vast majority of them who get it...still might not be bad to call the pastor up...somebody must have gone to divinity school with Aken's pastor.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:22 PM (dZQh7)

262 Sven, how can we shun him any more than he has already been shunned? Its possible that at some point, we will no longer be helping the cause than hurting it.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 10:25 PM (2XIvU)

263 As to the idea of stress having strong effects on bodily functions, you folks do understand that conventional wisdom is leaning towards the idea that stress causes such reactions in the body that it may be a cause of cancer. This is no defense of his claim but just to show that it isn't half as crazy as most of you people want to claim it is.

From the National Cancer Institute (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/stress):

Can stress increase a personís risk of developing cancer?

Studies done over the past 30 years that examined the relationship between psychological factors, including stress, and cancer risk have produced conflicting results. Although the results of some studies have indicated a link between various psychological factors and an increased risk of developing cancer, a direct cause-and-effect relationship has not been proven.

Some studies have indicated an indirect relationship between stress and certain types of virus-related tumors. Evidence from both animal and human studies suggests that chronic stress weakens a personís immune system, which in turn may affect the incidence of virus-associated cancers, such as Kaposi sarcoma and some lymphomas.

More recent research with animal models (animals with a disease that is similar to or the same as a disease in humans) suggests that the bodyís neuroendocrine response (release of hormones into the blood in response to stimulation of the nervous system) can directly alter important processes in cells that help protect against the formation of cancer, such as DNA repair and the regulation of cell growth.


As I said, this is not a defense of Akin's ideas on the body shutting down in cases of rape but you folks should realize that that sort of thinking, applied to many bodily functions, is not far from the conventional wisdom and is discussed seriously.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:26 PM (X3lox)

264 Now is the time to focus on the patients we can save.


Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:27 PM (Wp4rQ)

265 I really think we could use a line in the sand on statements that we should not support/defend those who say them. I suggest we begin with drawing the line so that we are on the other side of the guy who thinks "If you got pregnant then you weren't raped" is a reasonable view. We can discuss moving the line back further later on.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:28 PM (GULKT)

266 the guy who thinks "If you got pregnant then you
weren't raped" is a reasonable view.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:28 PM (GULKT)


He didn't say that so why do you have it in quotes?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:30 PM (X3lox)

267 262 SH,

If we had any impact on Todd he'd be gone, it is important that we not be seen "pulling for him"....I want him persona non grata along with Huck, I want even Chris Tingle worried that this will boomerang....

I want a person who bings Todd Akin to see 50 different slags at 50 different rightwing blogs on him so they wonder "wow the guys on his side sure think he's a tard I wonder if the MSM is lying about anything else?"...

sorry

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:30 PM (LRFds)

268 Okay, Palin just alluded to encouraging Sarah Stillman to run as a third-party candidate on Fox News.

Apparently, Palin supported her against Akin in the MO primary.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:31 PM (sefrH)

269 *Steelman

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:31 PM (sefrH)

270 @265.I would say most people are on the side you want them to be on, with a few exceptions. But once you have marked and shunned someone for being on the wrong side, what do you do next? Keep shunning them? Does that mean you have to keep bringing it up? Or once you have properly shunned him, is it ok to just move on.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 10:31 PM (2XIvU)

271 He didn't say that so why do you have it in quotes?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:30 PM (X3lox)


Because I "can." Are your fingers in your ears or are you finally willing to realize that on Hannity today Akin talked about how he has learned over the last two days that you can actually get pregnant from rape.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:32 PM (GULKT)

272 Go Gov Palin!
I'd donate heavily to a sarah steeleman 3rd party run. My MO dem relatives voted for steeleman because of Palin's endorsement.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:32 PM (ACkhT)

273 Again. Nelson and Obama will win together or lose together. You get Ryan and Mack together, or neither of them. And if you don't get Ryan, who really gives a shit about the Senate?

Medicare/Ryan/Nelson are all tightly coupled, and will determine the results in Florida.

Unless you want to imagine a path to victory that doesn't include Florida, which is pretty unlikely.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 10:33 PM (dX4hn)

274 kay, Palin just alluded to encouraging Sarah Stillman to run as a third-party candidate


I think that's illegal in Missouri. Sore loser laws?

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:33 PM (Ci0JG)

275 Okay, now she's getting stronger.

Palin just said, if he doesn't get out by the 25th, "it's going to be third party."

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:33 PM (sefrH)

276 @263 - yes the body does weird things, like have daughters more when times are bad and sons more when times are good.

The rape defense idea is really appealing if you are a right-to-lifer who doesn't want to really talk about rape babies. "Won't happen thus not an issue." Sort of like libs and entitlement money running out - the hardcore libs just say "we aren't running out of money."

The problem with the rape defense theory is that Mother Nature and Human History belie it.

Mother Nature is interested in procreation of strong genes, and in Human History those are sometimes carried by assholes on horseback with bows or in ships with axes and horns on their helmets.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:34 PM (dZQh7)

277 Also, I'm surprised by your Ohio percentage. Last I heard that race is tied. Or are there older polls giving Sherrod a boost?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 10:34 PM (dX4hn)

278 Sven - Fair enough. But when does it stop. After the final final deadline in September? My opinion is that it is time to move on from the whole affair. That does not mean I defend him. Just a different opinion.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 10:34 PM (2XIvU)

279 Well, sounds like the 'cuda is dead set on pushing Akin out. Here's hoping she does it quick.

Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 10:34 PM (rLvxx)

280
268 Okay, Palin just alluded to encouraging Sarah Stillman to run as a third-party candidate on Fox News.Apparently, Palin supported her against Akin in the MO primary.
Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:31 PM (sefrH)


Palin is likely unaware of the difference between Alaska's election laws and Missouri's.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:34 PM (GULKT)

281 the guy who thinks "If you got pregnant then you
weren't raped" is a reasonable view.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:28 PM (GULKT)


He didn't say that so why do you have it in quotes?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:30 PM (X3lox)

What matters is the effect. He said something close enough to that quote that it might as well have been what he said.

Politics is about manipulating human emotions and thinking and actions with words and symbols and other such things.

A poorly chosen word, a mistaken gesture, a missed step is all it takes to crash the whole castle.

Akin fucked up and we are duty bound now to compensate for his error.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:35 PM (Wp4rQ)

282 anyone who has been through OSUT at Ft Benning can tell you about
grenade training....they have a nice concrete pipe you are in, and in
case you freeze they will drag you down into the pipe....

Todd
God bless him he threw as many in as he could and he dropped a grenade
at all our feet....wounded he them celebrated by calling in a constant
time on target arty barrage on us....

"almighty, almighty, this is Zealot 6 I need WP, HE, APDS, Beehive, ILUM, and Smoke over....on my position!"

yeah thanks Huck

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:35 PM (LRFds)

283 I think that's illegal in Missouri. Sore loser laws?

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:33 PM (Ci0JG)


Damnit, please no.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:36 PM (sefrH)

284 Damned if I didn't think this whole thing was insane from the start, but I do think he's now successfully so damaged he can't really win. No one can help him, they've all denounced him.


There is a libertarian in the race I think. He would probably caucus with the GOP, be a hell of a lot better than McCaskill, a vote against Obamacare and against deficit spending.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:37 PM (Ci0JG)

285 ok, if not steelman, then someone else, Claire is very unpopular in MO from everything I've heard.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:37 PM (ACkhT)

286 If we do get so lucky to eventually replace Akin, I think it really ought to be a women as to help inoculate the ticket from the horrible damage done by Akin.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2012 10:37 PM (zrpqj)

287 Put up a link to the libertarian candidate...get them donations.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:40 PM (dZQh7)

288 If we do get so lucky to eventually replace Akin, I think it really ought to be a women as to help inoculate the ticket from the horrible damage done by Akin.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 21, 2012 10:37 PM (zrpqj)

(Insert tasteless Moronic remark about female body parts.)

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:40 PM (Wp4rQ)

289 Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:34 PM (dZQh7)


I wasn't defending the statement but many here are acting as if the idea that stress affects bodily processes is some alien notion that would be laughed out of modern medical research.

Of course I know that rape can yield pregnancy. I'm Jewish and I learned long ago that one of the reasons that Judaism is passed maternally is because many of my ancestors were being raped by marauders and to have the children as Jews and not ostracized by the community it was important to have the line defined by the mother.

Akin was trying to soften his position to appeal more to the pro-abortion PC crowd with that argument and it was a stupid one, but not totally out of bounds, given what medical research looks into in other areas. Just an erroneous argument and a bad justificiation when he should just state his anti-abortion position and not try to soften it with such arguments. But holding ideas like that are not the worst thing in the world and they are not that far off from other considerations that medical research looks into. I would think that the notion that stress causes cancer would be much odder than the idea that stress can stop a pregnancy, but we get lots of research into the stress/cancer connection.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:40 PM (X3lox)

290 278 SH,

it stops when he quits or his idiocy no longer hurts...

he is hard at work "doing good"....

he literally could not do more harm if he were a mole.

"almighty, almighty this is Zealot 6, I need candles* on my position..."

*candles is slang for atomic arty

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 10:41 PM (LRFds)

291 I don't think the dude has a website yet. He's total amateur hour I would guess, but who knows. Could be realistic or not depending.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:41 PM (Ci0JG)

292 I think the repub party should assume this deluded nutjob Akin will not quit, just get an independent ready and back with several superpacs, the sept 25th deadline then will no longer matter, just freeze him out if he doesn't get any sense.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:41 PM (ACkhT)

293 Jonathan Dine (Libertarian) - Fitness Personal Trainer, Marijuana Legalization Activist & '10 Nominee

---Ahhhhh, maybe not. Just his bio says NO.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:42 PM (dZQh7)

294 I think the repub party should assume this deluded nutjob Akin will not quit, just get an independent ready and back with several superpacs, the sept 25th deadline then will no longer matter, just freeze him out if he doesn't get any sense.
Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:41 PM (ACkhT)

Sounds like a plan.

Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:43 PM (Wp4rQ)

295 His bio says no but his policy superiority over McCaskill says yes.


I don't know if that makes it rape or not but I don't think I can get pregnant from it.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:43 PM (Ci0JG)

296 Can we trade the guy an ounce of weed to cede the slot to Steelman?

Posted by: mugiwara at August 21, 2012 10:43 PM (rLvxx)

297 Does Missouri have lots of twenty-something unemployed potheads?

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:44 PM (Ci0JG)

298 @289...

1) He used the word legitimate and rape right next to each other.

2) If you apply his logic, it means that women who get pregnant from rape weren't "raped-raped"

3) Todd Aken and Whoopi Goldberg jokes...those should already exist, no?

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:44 PM (dZQh7)

299 Can we trade the guy an ounce of weed to cede the slot to Steelman?

Here, just convince Steelman to include a "legalize marijuana" position in her platform. Nobody on our side would hold it against her and it might work.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:45 PM (sefrH)

300 But holding ideas like that are not the worst thing in the world and they are not that far off from other considerations that medical research looks into

Holding the idea until the last two days that You cannot get pregnant from legitimate rape is not one of the worst ideas in the world?

See until Hannity today you could have claimed that he just had a case of foot in mouth and that he really didn't mean to say that. But on Hannity he admitted to only discovering over the last 2 days that rape can result in pregnancy. So his idea of the magic goalie blocking rape sperm from the net really was the same as believing you weren't really raped if you got pregnant from it.

Pull your fingers out of your ears and listen.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:45 PM (GULKT)

301 What matters is the effect. He said something close enough to that quote that it might as well have been what he said.





Posted by: eman at August 21, 2012 10:35 PM (Wp4rQ)


Then buzzion should have had the intellectual honesty to write something like, "some guy who basically thinks that ..." instead of trying to quote it and make it appear as if they were Akin's words. buzzion has a bug up his ass about this and is pulling out all the stops to push his idiocy. He can't just be honest about it and make his argument like a mensch. I guess he thinks his argument isn't strong enough ... or, as buzzion would write, "My argument isn't strong enough to make it without attributing fake quotes."

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:46 PM (X3lox)

302 @294...that is a good plan. It also has the benefit for the next time, pour encourager les autres.

Used to be Congressmen would only serve 1-2 terms and the Party would put someone new in, regardless.

That system has benefits.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:47 PM (dZQh7)

303 Seriously socons, can weed be worse than communism or rape babies?


You'd think, just on that alone - communism, weed, or rape babies - the fucker should be polling 83%.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:48 PM (Ci0JG)

304 I think the MO repubs will try to convince Akin to leave by this weekend, while the national repubs will cut off all funding, take name of any of Akin's consultants promising they would be frozen from any future jobs. And if within a weekend its obvious this nut job won't budge, get Ashcroft, a soda can a ham sandwich and get superpacs to run against Mccakill. My sense is that MO residents still has not been saturated by the full extent of what Akin has said, when it does, it will be easier for the MO repubs and national repubs to completely freeze him out.

Posted by: johnc_ex-democrat at August 21, 2012 10:49 PM (ACkhT)

305 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:46 PM (X3lox)

How do you feel that Akin aborted 75% of your defending him today on Hannity numbnuts? Still think its a good idea to act like a democrat and pretend that he didn't actually say it because you want to ignore it? Why is it that you want to be just like the supporters of Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Dick Blumenthal, and Barack Obama?

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:49 PM (GULKT)

306 "Holding the idea until the last two days that You cannot get pregnant from legitimate rape is not one of the worst ideas in the world? "

I actually mentioned this on FB that if you were a pro-life person, it would be a very comforting fiction to believe. I think it softens my scorn of his belief in the pseudo-science. Sort of like how we all believe that Fido went to Doggie Heaven.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:51 PM (dZQh7)

307 I think we'll a 1-2 seat majority, but let's not forget about Senators like Murkowski.

I think we'll win Florida's Senate seat, but VA and Ohio will probably stay in Democrat hands. I see Romney winning both states, but I doubt either will be in blowout territory. I have this fantasy though where Virginia looks close, but Romney wins by 7 points and pulls Allen across the finish line.

I've written off Missouri and am not counting on it, but I still think there's a good chance a write in campaign may force Akin off. It's definitely worth a shot, especially if you can find a big name. The worst mistake Republicans would make is trying to salvage the seat with Akin, that's not going to fly.


Keep in mind, if it wasn't for SoCon idiots, between this election and the last, we'd have a comfortable majority in the Senate.
Thank you, Christine O'Donnell, Ken Buck, Sharon Angle, and now Akin. none of these clown lost because they were too severe about "legitimate" fiscal issues.


Posted by: Jalopy at August 21, 2012 10:52 PM (XDRsa)

308 @ entropy...they fear the demon weed will lead to communism and its attendant rape babies.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:53 PM (dZQh7)

309 Posted by: Jeff B. at August 21, 2012 10:14 PM (/COnL)
And yet, it is true. See, here's the problem. This guyblurts uncomfortable things, sometimes very clumsily, so clumsily that it obscures whatever truth he was aiming to communicate, and it infuriates his natural allies that he does this. If Dennis Miller had said, "There are great people, a songwriter from Missouri and others, who are products of rape.", we'd all laugh with him, and not at him, but it wouldn't makethe statementany less true.

Sure,Akin hasmangled the delivery (no pun intended) of socon/prolife tenets to the delight of faithless enemies, but the more they dig for Akin gold, the more liable they are to unwittingly paint a more sympathetic picture of the guy, at least to those whomwe need to vote for him. And the stone cold fact is that he's in the breech (again, no pun intended), he got there legally, and the only way to get him out is to pull the trigger.

The GOP had best figure out how to take their best shot with what they've got, and try to turn this gun back on McCaskill. Push back on all the crap the left dredges up, because as some have noted above,the left may come afterall the socon/prolifers with this line of attack. I hope the other potential targets are brushing up on their moral jujitsu right now.

All this talk of protocol, right-of-succession, pick-up-the-toys-and-go-home hoodoo needs to end. The guy is staying put, so deal with it. The Dems do.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 10:54 PM (QjSgY)

310 OT question...would you rather live in a communist state or theocracy like Iran?

I think I'd have to lean commie on that score. I like religious people more than lefties, but I suspect that in communism eventually everyone wink-winks nudge-nudges, but not so in a theocracy.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:55 PM (dZQh7)

311 I think maybe because religious people are more genuine in their beliefs..is that a back-handed compliment?

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:56 PM (dZQh7)

312 Does Missouri have lots of twenty-something unemployed potheads?

Doesn't every State have lots of twenty-something unemployed potheads?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 21, 2012 10:57 PM (JMmQ9)

313
Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:49 PM (GULKT)


His original statement was that pregnancy from rape was "rare", not "impossible".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:57 PM (X3lox)

314 Islamic theocracy, if I had money. Soviet communism if I was broke.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 10:57 PM (Ci0JG)

315
The GOP just needs to get rid of the socons. They only cause problems. Just get them out of the party.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 10:58 PM (2XIvU)

316 "d the stone cold fact is that he's in the breech (again, no pun intended), he got there legally, and the only way to get him out is to pull the trigger.

The GOP had best figure out how to take their best shot with what they've got, and try to turn this gun back on McCaskill. "

Is this like when the King of England said "will no one rid me of this man" about the bishop of Canterbury?

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:58 PM (dZQh7)

317 His original statement was that pregnancy from rape was "rare", not "impossible".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2012 10:57 PM (X3lox)


And then on Hannity today he said he's learned over the past two days that yes you can get pregnant from rape. So that means he just admitted that until August 19th 2012, he really did believe that you could not get pregnant from rape.

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2012 10:59 PM (GULKT)

318 Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 10:56 PM (dZQh7)

In a communist state, the true believers wind up getting killed within a couple decades, so you always wind up with cynical people in power. That said, you could still wind up with North Korea.

Posted by: AD at August 21, 2012 10:59 PM (sefrH)

319 @ 314, excellent distinction. Make sure to be rich in some important way, like own an industry that requires foreign travel...blow off steam in Dubai with booze and Thai hookers once in a while and it all becomes easier to deal with.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 11:00 PM (dZQh7)

320 @318 I guess you roll the dice and hope for Cuba instead of North Korea.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 11:01 PM (dZQh7)

321 310 sexy pig,

sure they do as in "a majority of the Caliphate's existence"....

theocratic regimes are cyclic just like everything else, and peole like money and eating, and vice....

the problem is flawed as the west is it is the best on record we've ever had it...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 11:01 PM (LRFds)

322 Depends on the theocracy.

Posted by: SH at August 21, 2012 11:01 PM (2XIvU)

323 blow off steam in Dubai with booze and Thai hookers once in a while and it all becomes easier to deal with.


Exactly.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 11:01 PM (Ci0JG)

324 "100% Nebraska, 99% Wisconsin, 90% Montana, 75% North Dakota, 60%
Virginia, 50% Florida, 40% New Mexico/Ohio, 35% Hawaii/Missouri, 25%
Michigan, <10% Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Connecticut."

Anyone remember college statistics? I'm pretty sure that the odds of getting to 5 seats with these odds are higher than 50/50.

(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .6) = .40
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .5) = .33
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .4) = .26
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .35) = .23
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .25) = .16
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .1) = .06
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .1) = .06
(1 * .99 * .9 * .75 * .1) = .06

Sum = 1.56

Instinctively, I know the odds aren't over 100% but I can't remember how to get to the right odds.


Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2012 11:03 PM (dX4hn)

325 What have you got to do to appease a Mullah really?


Have 3 wives and treat them all like shit in public?


Make them do all the work and support you while you smoke hookahs with your buddies?


Not all that hard really.


If I was a chick I think I'd take communism though.

Posted by: entropy at August 21, 2012 11:04 PM (Ci0JG)

326
"100% Nebraska, 99% Wisconsin, 90% Montana, 75% North Dakota, 60% Virginia, 50% Florida, 40% New Mexico/Ohio, 35% Hawaii/Missouri, 25% Michigan, <10% Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Connecticut."

With these probabilities, even giving PA, NJ, and CT 0% gives a 98.9% chance of at least 50 seats. Feel better?

Posted by: Optimizer at August 21, 2012 11:06 PM (As94z)

327 What the F'ing F? The RNC is considering adopting the no abortion under rape scenario? I am as pro-life as they come, but FFS, in any other time, we could get away with that, but with Todd Akin, oh hell to the no.

Posted by: sybilll at August 21, 2012 11:07 PM (gUZhL)

328 327 sybill,

been status quo...

since '80...we'll see

Posted by: sven10077 at August 21, 2012 11:08 PM (LRFds)

329 https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.dine

He doesn't look too crazy and I like the Gadsen flag.

Posted by: sexypig at August 21, 2012 11:08 PM (dZQh7)

330 "I'm pro life and I stand with todd akin"..... http://tinyurl.com/9mpgwt4

gawker sent me there: http://tinyurl.com/9t7yfzq

I went to gawker to read about Prince Harry and "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" romp....only it's apparently on TMZ with full color pics of ol harry in the buff (as my mom would say in polite company)

Here's the TMZ link: http://tinyurl.com/bguyf

BUT BE WARNED, ON THEIR FRONT PAGE IS THE PICTURE OF HARRY IN HIS BIRTHDAY SUIT SO DON'T OPEN IN FRONT OF LITTLE CHILDREN OR AT WORK OR IF YOU JUST AREN'T REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING HARRY IN HIS ALL TOGETHER..

this certainly is a God send for Kevin Yoder...with him there are no pics...

Posted by: cynder ella at August 21, 2012 11:13 PM (oZfic)

331 >>>Then buzzion should have had the intellectual honesty to write something
like, "some guy who basically thinks that ..." instead of trying to
quote it and make it appear as if they were Akin's words.


Dude, I instead think you oughta be asking yourself what it is that would put buzzion and me -- our history of smacking each other upside the head in genuine anger around here dates back half a decade -- on the exact same friggin' page in terms of our attitude about Akin. Again, it's like when Mark Levin and David Frum are singing from the same choirbook: if you can unify people across the board like that, then anybody caught out should start wondering what it is they're missing.

And FWIW I didn't think buzzion was being unfair. Akin basically DID say that. Everyone HEARD that -- and rightfully so, given what he's gone on to say -- so it's actually splitting hairs to argue that, hey, if we just parse his exact wording a bit here, we can get something slightly more acceptable out of it.

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 21, 2012 11:17 PM (/COnL)

332 "Is this like when the King of England said "will no one rid me of this man" about the bishop of Canterbury?"

Right now, its more like Todd "Taylor Grey Meyer" Akin and the GOPadres. The ball is in Reince's court.

Posted by: 66chevelle at August 21, 2012 11:18 PM (QjSgY)

333 Just look at Akin, is he not the most perfect look for a religious fundamentalist wack job?

I mean, Democrats could not have genetically engineered a more perfect look for the stereotypical SoCon. It's so easy seeing him screaming at rape victim that they had it coming because they dressed slutty.

You can tell these people are wired this way just by looking at them, take Santorum for instance. Just one look tells you he's WAAAY to into obsessing over issues regarding sexual morality and uteruses.

Posted by: Jalopy at August 21, 2012 11:39 PM (XDRsa)

334 the weirdos in 2010 may have been "socons" but acting as though the Democrats can't successfully paint certain Republicans as extreme on fiscal issues is just wrong. i like Paul Ryan but it's not as though he was a "safe" pick, it could go either way as net positive/net negative depending on how things shake out, and not cuz he's a devout Catholic.

Posted by: JParker at August 21, 2012 11:56 PM (8HhF2)

335 and honestly i'm just tired of this constant chopping of the GOP into an artifical socon/fiscon divide. abortion is an important issue to a lot of people, myself included. of course it's not gonna be the MAIN THEME in a campaign and it shouldn't. but without the GOP's stance on the issue you'd have a good amount of people in key states staying home

Posted by: JParker at August 21, 2012 11:58 PM (8HhF2)

336
I agree that Akin should drop out, but the vitriol against social cons, particularly here, does not endere me to Romney or any other fiscal con shit sandwich I'm forced to swallow.

Isn't there a way to express disagreement within our party without being as ugly as Democrats?

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at August 22, 2012 12:20 AM (aPkU9)

337 endear, not endere. My brain is slower than my fingers.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at August 22, 2012 12:21 AM (aPkU9)

338
336 ugly as Democrats?
shiiiiiitttttt
democrats are sexy
don't h8

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 12:31 AM (Shrag)

339 330 hey kitty puddle...what up?

Posted by: navycopjoe (looking for that sweet sweet dem cash) at August 22, 2012 12:32 AM (Shrag)

340 Draft Kit Bond out of retirement to save the world. Or something like that. Posted by: TJexcite at August 21, 2012 08:43 PM (PNDql)
Draft Tony LaRusso! He'll win St. Louis!

Posted by: Donna V. at August 22, 2012 12:38 AM (EflcN)

341 Why do people think Scott Brown will flip on Obamacare? He's a RINO, surely, but wasn't he elected in the first place because he was AGAINST Obamacare?

Posted by: Donna V. at August 22, 2012 12:44 AM (EflcN)

342 "Problem solved, without Missouri. Or Florida, Ohio, New Mexico or Virginia for that matter."

Without Florida or Ohio a/o VA, Mitt loses. Senate control means less, in that case.

Posted by: Jordan at August 22, 2012 12:47 AM (RSG1I)

343 "Todd Akin Could Be A Huge Game Changer For Barack Obama"

http://tinyurl.com/8op9kjx

"It is too early to determine what kind of ripple effect Akin's decision will have for the rest of the ticket. But recent polling numbers out of Missouri indicate that President Barack Obama could be one of the biggest beneficiaries of Akin's biology stumble."

Posted by: cynder ella at August 22, 2012 02:46 AM (oZfic)

344 "Harry, did your parents have a whole bunch of money to lend you?" Obama called out, before touting his cooperation with Reid on bills to set up a college tax credit and extend lowered interest rates on student loans."

http://tinyurl.com/8ks2ymo

Posted by: cynder ella at August 22, 2012 02:50 AM (oZfic)

345 Achin for more Akin?

Don't worry, like herpes, Akin is the gift that will keep on giving...

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 22, 2012 04:45 AM (ovpNn)

346 If we get 50 seats, or 51 with Ryan, then there will definitely be a Republican who switches over. The Democrats will bribe one of them to become a Democrat. We need more of a cushion than that.

Posted by: Baldy at August 22, 2012 05:48 AM (opS9C)

347 We will capture the Senate and hold the house. as far as Obama. He will be lucky to geto 200 votes IMO. I think the MSM is the only thing holding the line for him and I have zero faith in thses polls. I think a lot of folks are lying through their teeth when they say they will vote for Obama. He will be lucky ot get 40% of the vote.

Posted by: retired military at August 22, 2012 11:48 AM (SElov)

348 Don't give up on PA yet. Smith is tying Casey to Obama's anti-coal, anti-energy agenda... and Obama ain't cuttin' it in the 'burbs any more. There's a legitimate chance -- a long one right now, to be sure, but a chance. Remember, Pat Toomey won PA as a solid conservative.

Posted by: dead chickens at August 22, 2012 04:51 PM (EGSGm)






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Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat