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| Democrats to Debate Monitors: We Demand You Avoid Any Questions About Bowles-Simpson or Deficit ReductionIn the original letter, Sens. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Joe Lieberman, (I-Conn.) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) asked the debate commission to devote “specific and extensive attention to the question of how the candidates would get our nation’s fiscal house in order during the first debate dedicated to domestic policy.” “Specifically, we request that you ask the presidential candidates which of the recommendations of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform they would adopt as part of their plan to reduce the deficit,” they wrote. But that caused Reps. Mike Honda (D-Calif.), Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) and Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) to cry foul, writing in their own letter to the debate commission on Tuesday that although the Simpson-Bowles commission’s plan “may contain proposals helpful to our recovery…to hold it out as the only pathway to fiscal responsibility and economic success is foolish and wrong.” “We urge the [Debate] Commission to fight any effort to unnecessarily narrow such an important debate by placing disproportionate attention on one set of proposals over another,” they wrote, adding that such a question would “cheapen the debate” and “thwart the candidates’ ability to explain alternative proposals.”I have a feeling they wouldn't support questions about the stimulus or unemployment or Solyndra or Israel, either. Pretty much we'll only be able to talk about Seamus and tax returns. thanks to @justgrunt Comments1
I think they should take the advise of someone here and screw the question and just get up and say whatever the hell they want.
Screw this charade of a "debate." Get up there and tell America how bad you're getting screwed by this commie and what you're going to do to fix it. Posted by: © Sponge at August 14, 2012 04:58 PM (UK9cE) 2
All questions must be about how Romney intends to shackle people. And dog transportation methods.
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 14, 2012 04:58 PM (RD7QR) Posted by: © Sponge at August 14, 2012 04:59 PM (UK9cE) 4
Barack Obama is as stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 04:59 PM (8y9MW) 5
Chains.
Posted by: in before Biden at August 14, 2012 04:59 PM (5dGID) 6
Don't worry...
Mitt and Paul will ask you direct. If you think we're following format Barack you're a bigger fool than we think. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 04:59 PM (LRFds) 7
Romney could refuse the debates as organized and propose his own preferred forum. He is not a dark horse that needs a big play to have a shot of winning.
Posted by: fluffy at August 14, 2012 05:00 PM (3SvjA) 8
No reason to talk about what members of Obama's own administration have described as one of our biggest national security concerns and something that ties directly into the economy.
No, we need to talk about the gheys, Planned Parenthood, and abortion. Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 05:00 PM (/YJYi) 9
Has Jerry Nadler's neck engulfed his head yet?
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:00 PM (MMC8r) 10
I just want them to ask Romney one question. What is best in life and hear him say "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. "
Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:00 PM (ff2kT) 11
And no questions about dog eating!
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 14, 2012 05:01 PM (XUKZU) 12
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Has Jerry Nadler's neck engulfed his head yet? Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:00 PM (MMC8r) How would you be able to tell? Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 14, 2012 05:01 PM (RD7QR) 13
1 sponge,
damn skippy "Governor Romney states across America are passing Gay Marriage how do you feel?" R: Thanks for the question, we're in the middle of a double dip recession and you are asking me about Gay Marriage...... I think it would be nice if all Married Americans were confident the President of the United States was not blocking the XL pipeline keeping fuel costs high and illegally blocking Gulf drilling while giving an 8 billion dollar gift to Brazil to drill for oil. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:02 PM (LRFds) 14
Democrats to Debate Moderators: "It would be mean and nasty of you to ask questions we find inconvenient."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 05:02 PM (8y9MW) 15
Then I want to hear Paul Ryan say this, "Purging is at last at hand. Day of Doom is here. All that is evil, all their allies; your parents, your leaders, those who would call themselves your judges; those who have lied and corrupted the Earth, they shall all be cleansed."
Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:02 PM (ff2kT) 16
sofakingdumb
it's the main proposal of recent years, it was called by Obama, of course it should get the focus. no one's saying either candidate has to agree with all of it, just discuss it. prog reality-based community: our dreams can't be smashed by things like "budgets," "cuts," and "reform" Posted by: JParker at August 14, 2012 05:02 PM (60GaT) 17
wow, the liberal pathology really has a problem with accepting reality.
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 14, 2012 05:03 PM (QxSug) 18
http://tinyurl.com/8w78o5l
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 14, 2012 05:03 PM (ovpNn) 19
I'm hoping RR do what the rats do and say whatever they want, whatever the question. E.g., "Answering your question as phrased, Wolf, I would say not exactly, but even more important is the fact the Obama is a SCOAMF and corrupt to boot and hates America. He's proven it over and over such as by: attacking religion, attacking coal, raiding Medicare for 710 billion etc."
Posted by: eureka! at August 14, 2012 05:03 PM (1qHOu) 20
"to hear the lamentations of their women"
anytime you want, you can just tune in to Chris Matthews Posted by: irright at August 14, 2012 05:03 PM (pMGkg) Posted by: Soothsayer at August 14, 2012 05:03 PM (G/zuv) 22
for dem uccess questions only- Gov . Romney- did you know a older woman in your district died last week after following your Bus for a mile .
why did you kill her? Posted by: willow at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (TomZ9) 23
Who's damn idea was it?
Hell even wiki knows. The National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform (often called Bowles-Simpson/Simpson-Bowles from the names of co-chairs Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles; or NCFRR) is a Presidential Commission created in 2010 by President Barack Obama to identify... Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (r2PLg) 24
"I'd begin by not selling weapons to Mexican Drug gangs."
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (MMC8r) 25
Also off-limits are:
Mooch's ass (that's Barky to you) Sons (if he had 'em) that look like Barack Intelligence of Cambridge police officers The state of the private sector Who built the pyramids? VP Joey Choo-Choo's repertoire of train sounds Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (0AClR) Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (r2PLg) 27
20 "to hear the lamentations of their women"
anytime you want, you can just tune in to Chris Matthews Ok, that was spew worthy. Dammit, you made me abuse alcohol by spitting it out. Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (ff2kT) 28
"That Obama is soooo smart, we baby and coddle him like he was our caricature of George W. Bush."
Posted by: Anony at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM (qiXMt) 29
...and dead Sikhs Posted by: Soothsayer at August 14, 2012 05:05 PM (G/zuv) 30
... and chicken Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 14, 2012 05:05 PM (vRJFf) 31
No worries at all -- the debate "moderators" have certainly gotten their lists of talking points from Bark Obama's
This is a pre-stacked deck, and nothing has been left to chance. Even an affirmative-action baby like Obama, one who has never worked a day in his life and hates the country that has given him far more than he deserves, knows that he'd be in deep shit without the media, including those worthless turd-polishers who will make sure the debates go his way. Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2012 05:05 PM (wZI4b) 32
Let me get this straight-
The Democrats don't want Obama to answer for the findings of Obama's task force. Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:05 PM (r2PLg) 33
"R: Thanks for the question, we're in the middle of a double dip recession and you are asking me about Gay Marriage......"
bad answer, he should be perfectly able to defend himself on the issue besides no problem in the world (well rarely) requires 24/7 government attention to the point where you can't address lesser issues, it's just rhetorical deflection whenever either side dodges like that Posted by: JParker at August 14, 2012 05:05 PM (60GaT) 34
And no discussion of him reading "Gates and umbrellas, who do they work?"
Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:06 PM (ff2kT) 35
Shorter D Reps: The economy...not important!!!
Posted by: DangerGirl at August 14, 2012 05:06 PM (GrtrJ) 36
>>>adding that such a question would “cheapen the debate”
Bowles Simson was law Barry put his pen to. Asking about a committee he signed into law specifically for deficit reduction "cheapens" the debate? In that case, any mention of O's record at all would "cheapen" the debate. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 05:06 PM (0q2P7) 37
Romney needs to do televised town halls with Ryan and they better buy a 1 hour slot the night before the election on all the major channels to make their case one last time.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 14, 2012 05:06 PM (ovpNn) 38
Romney.... please..... refuse to debate with these moderators. REFUSE. All they want to talk about is abortion, gun violence, tax returns, racism in America ( GOP is a whitey ticket) and voter suppression. Oh yeah, and Halliburton!
Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (Mrdk1) 39
Are you sure it's not JustAGrunt?
Posted by: © Sponge at August 14, 2012 04:59 PM (UK9cE) It's both actually..... Just A Grunt @JustGrunt Posted by: Tami at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (X6akg) 40
Don't forget about Mormonism, and that cancerous magic underwear.
Posted by: Bob Schieffer at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (/YJYi) 41
"adding that such a question would “cheapen the debate” and “thwart the candidates’ ability to explain alternative proposals.”
And by candidates, they mean Romney Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (B/yDO) 42
Do guns sent to Mexican drug gangs count against our trade deficit?
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (MMC8r) 43
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 14, 2012 05:04 PM
If Moo-chelle Obama were questioned at the debates, I'd want to ask her if she's aware that her ass weighs more than Gabby Douglas.... Posted by: MrScribbler at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (wZI4b) 44
Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:02 PM (ff2kT)
Isn't that more the OWS, PETA, ELF... type of mantra? Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (lZBBB) 45
All questions must be about how Romney intends to shackle people. And dog transportation methods.
But not recipes for preparing dog satay. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (ZKzrr) 46
Who's leaking all this stuff? Hmmmmmm
Posted by: madamex at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (e9LVX) 47
I'm looking forward to hearing the candidates lay out their vision for how they would or would not murder any women that Joe Soptic may marry in the future.
Also, with regard to gay marriage, the country needs to hear the candidates talk about their position on murdering any men that Joe Soptic may marry in the future. Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (+lsX1) 48
And about Romney's apparent death wish by picking Paul Ryan as his running mate.
Posted by: Candy Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (/YJYi) 49
Also off limits, Mom jeans and girl bikes.
Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:08 PM (ff2kT) 50
Lurking entrance,
How is everyone? I'm, thoroughly impressed by all of the great comments by the "Horde", VFW was nice to me for the brisket I cooked for our affair today (get together), anyway reason I popped in is to tell you all that we are going to be back in charge of our Country from these rapists of freedom and that cocksucker that's leading their so called party, RR are going to win by the largest landslide to date in American politics IMHO! Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 14, 2012 05:08 PM (8Hnjw) 51
what a freaken waste of time.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:08 PM (05RcU) 52
Of course asking about which parts of Simpson-Bowles a candidate favors gives them plenty of opportunity to discuss alternatives to S-B. Pizza the Hutt et al don't want voters reminded that S-B was yet another cowardly FAIL by Toonces and Reid.
Posted by: spongeworthy at August 14, 2012 05:08 PM (r5w1L) 53
President Obama sets up a task force.
President Obama's task force (his idea) makes some recommendations. Now--President Obama should not be "forced" --to use the Democrat's language--to explain what he thinks of the results of his commission. Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:08 PM (r2PLg) 54
mfm- 'Obama did you realize what an evil creep Mitt Romney is for campaigning for the Presidency?'
mfm-'Romney, why are you such an evil creep?' Posted by: willow at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (TomZ9) 55
And NO MATH!
Posted by: Hair Plugs Joe at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (3ZjAP) 56
Expecting bold and hard-hitting questions about magic underwear, myself.
Posted by: Skyway Moaters at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (jNNWD) 57
President Obama, how do you stay so gosh darn good looking?
Mr. Romney, do you realize how much damage you do to the ozone layer with your hairspray? Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (ovpNn) 58
When I was a young litigator I was in trial once with another young lawyer. It was his first case. His witness was being filleted on the stand. Unable to stand it any longer he shouted "objection". The judge asked for his basis for the objection, he said that the basis was "Its killing my case!". Sounds very familiar.
Posted by: thunderb at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (Dnbau) 59
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wow, the liberal pathology really has a problem with accepting reality. Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 14, 2012 05:03 PM oh come on, they are the Reality Based Community. Giggle. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (bJm7W) 60
Question 1) Why are 50% of the sequestered cuts coming out of Defense when it's only 13% of the Budget?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (05RcU) 61
44 Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:02 PM (ff2kT)
Isn't that more the OWS, PETA, ELF... type of mantra? Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (lZBBB) Not at all. Our country has been infiltrated by communists, socialists and plain old parasites. And obviously you don't know your conan otherwise you would get the context, lol. Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (ff2kT) Posted by: Soothsayer at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (G/zuv) 63
Given the moderators that will host these stupid "non-debates" the Republicans are stupid to agree to them.
Posted by: Vic at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (YdQQY) Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (MMC8r) 65
When I was a young litigator I was in trial once with another young lawyer. It was his first case. His witness was being filleted on the stand. Unable to stand it any longer he shouted "objection". The judge asked for his basis for the objection, he said that the basis was "Its killing my case!". Sounds very familiar.
Posted by: thunderb at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (Dnbau) Wasn't that from "LIar Liar"? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (05RcU) 66
Obama is being FORCED-
who the hell are they kidding!? It's like they are running interference for their first grader. Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:10 PM (r2PLg) 67
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President Obama sets up a task force. President Obama's task force (his idea) makes some recommendations. Now--President Obama should not be "forced" --to use the Democrat's language--to explain what he thinks of the results of his commission. Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:08 PM (r2PLg) --------- He has been too busy golfing and going to swank get togethers at celebrity homes to meet with his commission. It would be patently biased and unfair to expect him to answer questions on the task force's findings when he has so much on his plate. Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (ovpNn) 68
Just wait. A month before the election we're going to release a new Bin Laden tape where he talks about Barry kicking down his door and double tapping his head before holding off half the Pakistani army on a ridge line with nothing but a M9.
Posted by: David Axelrod at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (/YJYi) 69
"Mr President, how do you answer people who tell you that they are afraid that a Romney administration will take away food, housing, medical care, school and hope for tens of millions of Americans?"
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (bJm7W) 70
Just A Grunt
@JustGrunt Posted by: Tami at August 14, 2012 05:07 PM (X6akg) I stand corrected. I wasn't sure, but since I've seen JustAGrunt posting at numerous places and I avoid Twitter like the plague, I just thought I'd ask. Posted by: © Sponge at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (UK9cE) 71
I don't even care about the size of Mooch's ass. I want to know why she gets a free pass to bully a member of the US Olympic Team for saying something not negative about one of the team sponsors.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (ZKzrr) 72
As a friend told me, they should apply the Mercy Rule and call off the VP debates now...
I mean, I can only take so much carnage... And RR should say to ANY question- ''I'll provide that answer when you provide us with say, your college transcript..'' Posted by: Mr Wolf, esq at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (Ok160) 73
"Mr Romney, are you ready to disown the Tea Party and their extremist views?"
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (bJm7W) Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (8Hnjw) 75
Sorry Little Joey can't be forced to answer those questions because the dog ate his homework.
And then he ATE HIS DOG! Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (r2PLg) 76
Gee is Beckel that big an idiot that he has no idea what the Ryan Plan is and still he had the freaken nerve to argue against it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (05RcU) 77
"Mr President, what steps are you taking to prevent Israel from starting World War Three?"
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (bJm7W) Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (MMC8r) 79
Just because moderators don't ask about it, doesn't mean Romney and/or Ryan can't bring it up....and I'm sure they will.
Posted by: Tami at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (X6akg) 80
It would be patently biased and unfair to expect him to answer questions on the task force's findings when he has so much on his plate.
Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka Wright at August 14, 2012 05:11 PM (ovpNn) ************* Ya we know what is on his plate, all right. Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:13 PM (r2PLg) 81
Bob Schieffer: Mr. Ryan, do you support the Obama Doctrine? Paul Ryan: What the fuck is the Obama Doc- Bob Schieffer: It's the practice of not harvesting minority babies for the purpose of being shipped to Israel, where they will be rendered into matzoh for the Jew-controlled international banking system. ***BZZZZT*** Bob Schieffer: I'm sorry, Congressman Ryan, your time is up. I'll just put you down for a "No." Vice President Biden, same question...Oh, I'm sorry, sir. You may finish your paste before answering and we'll just add time to the end of your answer. No, it's okay - take your time and chew thoroughly. That's what Gam-Gam says, sir. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 14, 2012 05:13 PM (JPrdt) 82
"Mr Romney, how do you answer people of your faith when they remind you that Mr Ryan belongs to the Church of Satan?"
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:13 PM (bJm7W) 83
But, they'll still have full lecterns the questioners can hide behind to give BJ's to Obama right? right?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 14, 2012 05:13 PM (UTq/I) 84
AND no questions about little Joey's disappearance.
Posted by: Harry Reid, pederast at August 14, 2012 05:14 PM (3ZjAP) 85
approved questions list
mfm- ' Romney why did you wife wear that horrid blouse to discuss your campaign with the Media" mfm-'Obama , Your wife wears the most fabulous designer clothing, where did she get her amazing fashion sense?" Posted by: willow at August 14, 2012 05:14 PM (TomZ9) 86
68 Just wait. A month before the election we're going to release a new Bin Laden tape where he talks about Barry kicking down his door and double tapping his head before holding off half the Pakistani army on a ridge line with nothing but a M9.
Posted by: David Axelrod Oh please, it will be nothing but a k-bar. Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:14 PM (ff2kT) Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:14 PM (MMC8r) 88
Would be great if, in his opening statement at the debate, Romney said:
"I'm here to debate the President on the crucially important issues presented by our catastrophic fiscal problems, our broken economy, and how to create jobs. I'm not here to answer gotcha questions. I'm not here to debate the President on gay marriage, abortion, or contraception. While those issues are important, and extremely important to some, they pale in comparison to the enormous economic challenges that face all of us. Therefore, I'm not going to spend one minute during this debate focusing on anything other than how our plan will restore America's economy and strengthen the middle class." Posted by: angler at August 14, 2012 05:15 PM (SwjAj) 89
Here it is at the first link:
Three Democratic House members objected Tuesday to a request by four senators that President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney be asked which of the commission’s proposals to address the debt they support. The Democrats said such a question would force “candidates to choose solutions from one menu of options.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79718.html#ixzz23Yckd1e0 Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:16 PM (r2PLg) 90
They can ask da Zero about his favorite recipes for dog.
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:16 PM (OlN4e) 91
Oh, and another thing on the Moose Obama and Gabby the Olympian.......that's just another PRIME example of the Obama regime trying to dictate to and close down an AMERICAN BUSINESS.
Now, followers of that viscous scrunt will boycott McDonald's because they serve BAD FOOD!!!!1111!!1!111!!! I really loathe the current occupiers of the White House. Posted by: © Sponge at August 14, 2012 05:16 PM (UK9cE) 92
That question is rhetorical, right?
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:12 PM (MMC8r) No not really. That is a pretty basic fact about the Ryan Plan. I mean he really made a fool of himself on that one. I mean a bigger fool than usual. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:16 PM (05RcU) Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 14, 2012 05:16 PM (3ZjAP) 94
"Mr President, Vice President Biden once reminded us that the economy could have been much worse without the Stimulus. How do you respond to those who question the Vice President's mental abilities?"
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:16 PM (bJm7W) 95
They can ask Joe Biden to count to eleven without taking off his shoes.
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:17 PM (OlN4e) 96
vicious...oops.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 14, 2012 05:17 PM (UK9cE) 97
Mr President, how were you able to get those chains off?
Posted by: MSM Spin doctors at August 14, 2012 05:17 PM (3ZjAP) 98
And there will be no questions about the cannibalism done by Barry and his stepdad while on vacation in Papua New Guinea.
They just needed a change of pace. Posted by: Candy Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:17 PM (wAQA5) Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 05:18 PM (0q2P7) 100
Breaking: The debate commission found Nadler's demand for free hotdogs at "all debates ever" to be beyond the scope of the commission's authority.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 14, 2012 05:19 PM (+lsX1) 101
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They can ask Joe Biden to count to eleven without taking off his shoes. well, if he keeps his shoes on he could still count to twelve. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:19 PM (bJm7W) 102
Most transparent admin EVAH
Posted by: kallisto at August 14, 2012 05:19 PM (jm/9g) 103
Oh please, it will be nothing but a k-bar.
Posted by: Midaz at August 14, 2012 05:14 PM (ff2kT) He moved like a ghost, from shadow to shadow. Hiding behind shrubbery, he stalked his prey. Keeping his eyes closed, worried that even his whites might give him away, he killed purely from instinct and divine intervention. God was with him then, will you be with him now? Posted by: Scrunt Cutter at August 14, 2012 05:19 PM (/YJYi) 104
and no questions about the number of states in the union.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (C2//T) 105
"I think they should take the advise of someone here and screw the question and just get up and say whatever the hell they want."
I agree, and it wouldn't hurt Romney at all to do that. He could give a weak gesture toward the original question and just hammer a talking point or rebut something Obama said every time. Sure the pundits would say "he never answered the questions" but when does a politician ever, anyway? Even better would be for Romney to say "nah, we're not doing a debate with that line up of moderators. Get some new ones, or just have us do a Lincoln-Douglas style debate." They would throw a bitch fit, but they have to have Romney and Ryan there or there's no debate, no viewers, and no earnings. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (r4wIV) 106
"With all due respect to the moderators, I'll be deferring all my answers this evening to little Billy Conover, a fourth-grader from Ft. Wayne, New Jersey, who has agreed to debate the vice-president while I correct some equations that the people at CERN believe will solve the Unified Field Theory."
Posted by: Paul Ryan, Math Witch at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (MMC8r) 107
These debates are going to be a freakin joke.....it's not even worth watching. The medias last gasp to save their god king......it's almost embarassing, but they have not shame so I have no sympathy for the suckers of cock..... Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (R/8dI) 108
Nam Grunt old buddy! Glad you dropped in. Put your feet up. Set a spell. Get ya a beer?
Posted by: teej at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (A9hpr) 109
Tonight's first question, an economic one for Mitt Romney: Why do you refuse gay marriage, hate all women, own an SUV, kill kittens and throw litter at the feet of a fake indian with a tear in his eye?
Posted by: jim leher at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (QK3qp) 110
Here it is from the actual letter:
Forcing candidates to choose solutions from one menu of options – here, the Simpson-Bowles plan, which puts even more on the backs of the struggling middle class – would serve merely to cheapen the debate, thwart the candidates’ ability to explain alternative proposals to solving our fiscal crisis, and suggest to voters that only one plan exists to cure our fiscal ailments. We urge the Commission not to bias the debate by focusing on one particular set of proposals, but, instead, to put forward a series of presidential debates where the candidates can engage in a robust debate about their vision for the future free from steering by questioners. Thank you for your attention, and we look forward to a thought-provoking series of debates. Sincerely, Jerrold Nadler Mike Honda Jan Schakowsky http://politicker.com/2012/08/nadler-it-aint-all- about-simpson-bowles/ Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:20 PM (r2PLg) 111
..... I remember when George Snuffulupogous was really badgering, I think Mitt, on banning birth control. Snuffy was going on and on and on and on and on about it.... really pressing. I really WISH that Mitt had said "I thought the purpose of our gathering was a debate between opponents......I was unaware this is a debate with the moderators" Posted by: fixerupper at August 14, 2012 05:21 PM (C8hzL) Posted by: madamex at August 14, 2012 05:21 PM (e9LVX) 113
I love the Romney surrogates growing a pair and not taking any shit from the mainstream media. They have to be aggressive to the point of rudeness and bitchslap the MSM. Point out the obvious bias for the more obtuse viewers. Sununu has been on fire.
Posted by: Ombudsman at August 14, 2012 05:22 PM (zXLtf) 114
Aaannnd there goes Beckel with the eff bombs again....what a asswipe Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:22 PM (R/8dI) 115
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95 They can ask Joe Biden to count to eleven without taking off his shoes. well, if he keeps his shoes on he could still count to twelve. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:19 PM Anyway, I 'm not sure Biden can get his shoes off without falling down. Would explain a lot, too. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:22 PM (bJm7W) 116
Quit hasslin' me! I've already received my pre-approved debate questions printed on official White House letterhead.
Posted by: Bob Schieffer at August 14, 2012 05:22 PM (wAQA5) 117
mfm- Romney in Fairness, we've decided to give you 50 seconds for answers.
mfm, Obama we are giviing you 15 minutes per answer , if stuck look at the prompter on the Left, we know you work very hard and have so many issues on your mnd, and you have a dreamy voice, and we miss your halo. Posted by: willow at August 14, 2012 05:22 PM (TomZ9) 118
Death to Erskine "Boll Weevil" Bowles!
Posted by: Reality-Based Progs at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (60GaT) 119
So, puppies, racism, gay marriage, and the new BCS playoff.
Is that what we're going to be talking about? FOUR TIMES? Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (B9nls) 120
Quoting Ace: "Pretty much we'll only be able to talk about Seamus and tax returns."
"...and....and...and...how Romney and Ryan kill people" ~ LSM Posted by: Mr_Write at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (VJUQK) 121
Definitely no history questions either. Hell I didn't even know the name of the concentration camp my uncle liberated (except I did because he was really a Soviet you morons).
Posted by: Choomin Soetoro at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (/YJYi) 122
Honestly we don't care what the topic is, just make sure we get a copy of the questions 48 hours before, as usual.
Posted by: Democrats at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (r4wIV) 123
oh there are words....i
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (MVKMz) Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (MMC8r) 125
Bob Beckel just said "fuckin'" on The Five and the time delay didn't catch it. He was threatening Eric with something as he was speaking.
Posted by: susietx at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (e9kQC) 126
i just won't type them today...trying to clean up my act
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at August 14, 2012 05:23 PM (MVKMz) Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:24 PM (hvwLi) 128
Tonight, we will be discussing the economy, which by definition includes homosexual marriage as teh gheys throw expensive wedding parties that're just fabulous.
Posted by: Jim Lehrer at August 14, 2012 05:24 PM (60GaT) 129
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Bob Beckel just said "fuckin'" on The Five and the time delay didn't catch it. He was threatening Eric with something as he was speaking. What is this like the third time? Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 05:24 PM (/YJYi) 130
Oh this part is rich:
Our country’s economic outlook remains at the forefront of voters’ minds, and it is critical that each candidate discuss what his plans to continue our economic recovery are if elected president. However, it also is critical that this complex and multifaceted issue not be unnecessarily narrowed by focusing merely on one possible plan to the exclusion of other viable solutions. Despite the urge to oversimplify our economic problems, and the misguided hope of some that the road to success runs magically through one plan, the candidates must be challenged to suggest solutions based on their values and vision for the future, not simply to choose a few ideas from one plan while ignoring other possibilities. You can almost here Nadler slurping through that one. Ghee! Don't want someone pulling the old magical hope and change stunt again--and over simplifying things! Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:24 PM (r2PLg) 131
can I join The Five?
Posted by: Sad Turtle Colmes at August 14, 2012 05:25 PM (60GaT) 132
From now on all of Bob Beckel's time on The Five to be prerecorded.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 14, 2012 05:25 PM (zrpqj) 133
>>These debates are going to be a freakin joke.....it's not even worth watching.
But they are always a joke in that the moderators and questions are horribly biased. Like it or not, they have become a permanent, and more importantly, expected fixture in these elections. People who are persuadable and necessary expect them to occur and can be swayed by them. Better to accept the moderator bias going in, and make the best of it, a la Newt. Reject false premises, expose the unfairness of the question, and then ignore the question and talk about what you want to talk about. Posted by: angler at August 14, 2012 05:25 PM (SwjAj) Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:25 PM (hvwLi) Posted by: fixerupper at August 14, 2012 05:26 PM (C8hzL) 136
@124 125 yep....he was monoplozing the conversation as always interrupting constantly and Eric tried to moderate to one of the ladies. Beckels acting like someone died, wonder if he was fed some shitty internal WH polls today? One can hope. Look I like it that Fox has libs on to debate but this guy is just a freaken mess.... a more disrespectful ass wipe I have not seen. Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:26 PM (R/8dI) 137
Maybe "The Five" should also stand for five-second delay.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 14, 2012 05:26 PM (zrpqj) 138
You can almost *hear* nailer slurping.
(Damn it it's hard for me to type while my blood pressure is pounding) Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (r2PLg) 139
Mr. Romney, does your support for polygamy extend to same sex couples? If not, how do you explain your homophobia?
Posted by: Candy 'Mama Cass' Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (SzAZ7) 140
Journalists are now reducing themselves to acting like parents of an untalented child on an episode of Toddlers and Tiaras.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (P6QsQ) 141
Oops--I posted bad info on the previous thread. Mrs. Thatcher is still with us. My apologies.
Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (Dm6/d) 142
Beckel instructs other Marxist on the proper technique for picking up a turd from the clean end. Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (hvwLi) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (LRFds) 144
I was just saying fucking deficits don't fucking matter.
Posted by: Bob Beckel at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (wAQA5) 145
As I've said. The MFM is going to jury-rig the debates to the point where the SCOAMT will be able to use his teleprompter. They're trying to set up a trap.
The RR team either needs to tell the MFM to go fuck themselves, or have a plan to divert the questions. Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 05:28 PM (4cXbW) 146
Honda, Nadler, and Schakowsky are all members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC).
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 14, 2012 05:28 PM (YjDyJ) 147
Wasn't Gwen Awful a moderator for one of the debates in 2008? Right about the same time her book came out praising Obama as the Second Coming?
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 14, 2012 05:28 PM (P6QsQ) 148
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Beckel.
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (MMC8r) 149
well, if he keeps his shoes on he could still count to twelve.
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:19 PM (bJm7W) <<<<<I think you give Joe too much credit to make that extrapolation. Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (OlN4e) Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (w6xK8) 151
angler I know your'e right....my hope is Mitt is up before debates and more and more of the type of interveiws Ace posted on today keep happening and the moderators realize they can't give the O a free pass..... I know hope and one hand and shit in the other and what have you got. Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (R/8dI) 152
Alan Colmes, I almost felt sorry for him when he was on Hannity and Colmes. He was such a pathetic hack, just a talking point-spewing mental lightweight.
Its true that Newt showed the way to deal with these debates, but a better way is to change the rules. Romney doesn't have to agree to this crap. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (r4wIV) 153
Replace Beckel with Kirsten Powers so we can check out her legs like Kimberly and Tarantula. Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (hvwLi) 154
Mr. Romney, does this dress make me look fat?
Posted by: Candy 'Mama Cass' Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:30 PM (SzAZ7) 155
Finally the entitlement debates comes and the Democrats are shitting their pants and trying to scare grandma.
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 14, 2012 05:30 PM (nEo/i) 156
Bob Beckel is a fat, greasy, loudmouth pussy who needs his fat ass kicked so hard he has to spread his immense butt cheeks to blow his fucking nose.
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:31 PM (OlN4e) 157
I was just saying fucking deficits don't fucking matter.
Posted by: Bob Beckel at August 14, 2012 05:27 PM (wAQA5) No, what I was saying is that when I pay for a fuck I prefer to do it with a personal check. Posted by: The Real Bob Beckel at August 14, 2012 05:31 PM (nZvGM) 158
@153 yes I love Gutfeld but Kimberly and Tantaros in the front chairs is just a great thing. I'd love to be the filling in that sammich Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (R/8dI) 159
oh man.....just scored cardinal bronco tickets and i can't go.......f bomb in 5,4,3,2,1
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (MVKMz) 160
Governor Romney, some people have said that your pick of Paul Ryan as vice presidential candidate was a play to the extreme, grandma-killing, women-enslaving, gay-bashing, Ayn Rand-worshiping far right of your disgraced party. And by some people I mean myself. How do you respond to that
Posted by: Candy "Some People" Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (60GaT) 161
137 - bwah!
I'm just sorry that it took attention away from the part where the whole panel had to explain to him that the RR plan leaves the Medicare status quo in place for those that are 55 and up, if they so desire. The idiot kept saying he didn't believe it, that they were wrong. Posted by: susietx at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (e9kQC) 162
Quoting Ace who is quoting someone else: “We urge the [Debate] Commission to fight any effort to unnecessarily
narrow such an important debate by placing disproportionate attention on one set of proposals over another,” they wrote, adding that such a question would “cheapen the debate” and “thwart the candidates’ ability to explain alternative proposals.” This kind of stupidity does NOT sound like it's coming from confident people. (or competent, for that matter) Posted by: Mr_Write at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (VJUQK) 163
hey, remember the fuss in 2004 because Bush had an ear piece, so the Secret Service could contact him in an emergency, or something like that? What are the odds Barky will use that to get answers..? Inquiring mind want to know if he also ate cat.
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (bJm7W) 164
I don't want Beckel to go anywhere. He's a slimy dissembling whore, on EVERY topic. They handle his fat ass just fine. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 14, 2012 05:32 PM (JPrdt) 165
If I hear one more supposedly conservative asshole on Fox talking about how Beckel is a nice guy I'm going to flip my shit. Juan Williams is a nice guy. Kirsten Powers is a nice gal. Joe Trippi is a nice guy. Bob Beckel is a fucking asshole.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 05:33 PM (/YJYi) 166
I'm guessing that the "moderators" of the debates will have no problem running the debates according to the Dems wishes
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 14, 2012 05:33 PM (1Jaio) 167
(Damn it it's hard for me to type while my blood pressure is pounding)
I hear ya. I think cuddling a 14" plush Paul Ryan doll might help, although YMMV. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 05:33 PM (ZKzrr) 168
MikeTheMoose Did you see they have a statue of you at the Iowa state fair made of chocolate?
http://tinyurl.com/9aoa4vh Posted by: Buzzsaw at August 14, 2012 05:33 PM (tf9Ne) 169
Gutfeld should set up that on Beckel's next show, everything he says gets bleeped.
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:34 PM (MMC8r) 170
And a special welcome to tonight's moderator, Bob Shieffer.
"Hello, Governor Romney. You've refused to release more than a couple of years of tax returns. What are you hiding from the American people?" "Welcome, Mr. President. After navigating the mess left behind by the previous administration and going on to do what they couldn't in killing Bin Laden, do you ever feel like an over-achiever held to an impossible standard?" Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 14, 2012 05:34 PM (SY2Kh) Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 14, 2012 05:34 PM (ZKzrr) 172
Wasn't Gwen Awful a moderator for one of the debates in 2008? Right about the same time her book came out praising Obama as the Second Coming? Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 14, 2012 05:28 PM (P6QsQ) You mean the cleaning lady? Posted by: Imus at August 14, 2012 05:34 PM (zXLtf) 173
Romney causes black lung disease!
Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 05:34 PM (6Cjut) 174
I think cuddling a 14" plush Paul Ryan doll might help
--------- I have my credit card all ready to go. Give me a link and I'm there. Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 14, 2012 05:35 PM (P6QsQ) 175
I think cuddling a 14" plush Paul Ryan doll might help, although YMMV.
Can mine be a plush Kate Upton doll? And instead of 14" can it be life-sized? And instead of it being a doll, can it be her? Hey, it never hurts to ask. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 05:35 PM (8y9MW) 176
"hey, remember the fuss in 2004 because Bush had an ear piece, so the Secret Service could contact him in an emergency, or something like that? What are the odds Barky will use that to get answers..?"
Heck as far as we know Bush was doing that. But Obama is so terrible off the cuff he'd mess it all up anyway. Heather, why does your plush Ryan doll take batteries? Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 05:35 PM (r4wIV) 177
The only thing useful you could do with Greasy Bob is to make about 200 pounds of low grade soap.
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:35 PM (OlN4e) 178
I may have rose colored glasses onnow, but I think that team O will have deteriorated so much by the debates that the moderators will not bow to them as much as they used to.Self preservation and all.
Posted by: Cheri at August 14, 2012 05:36 PM (G+Wff) 179
Bob Beckel hasn't seen his own dick without a mirror and tweezers in 30 fucking years.
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (OlN4e) 180
There's nothing wrong with Bob Beckel I can't fix with my hands.
Posted by: Batman at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (r4wIV) 181
In the future, Paul Ryan will run Cyberdyne. We all know how that turns out, right? Am I right? *wink/finger gun*
Now . Lemme see that mokey. I was told specifically that there would be a monkey. Honestly , how else is this supposed to work? Someone get Axlerod on the blower and tell him tot get this one fixed STAT! And while your at it find out why Patterno isnt returning my calls. Posted by: Joe Bidens Coffee Halitosis at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (nmTBe) 182
THE BALLS ON THESE GUYS!
Posted by: toby928© at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (evdj2) 183
mama winger--I don't think they're actually selling one yet, but they should.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (ZKzrr) 184
Rumor has it: Barack Obama's Twitter audience is 41% fake, and 29% of the accounts who follow him are inactive. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney's Twitter follower base is 12% fake and 30% of the accounts that follow him are inactive, according to the app. http://bit.ly/QzjoLW
Posted by: ROIGuy at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (7YnaR) 185
Kirsten Powers is a nice gal.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 05:33 PM (/YJYi) I met her once. Her, ahem, true talents don't come across on TV. She really is a gorgeous woman. A liberal bubble-head, but a gorgeous woman. Posted by: Imus at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (zXLtf) Posted by: The Question at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (LRFds) 187
I hear ya.
I think cuddling a 14" plush Paul Ryan doll might help, although YMMV. Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at August 14, 2012 05:33 PM (ZKzrr) **************** Hell short of that--I'm off to go look at pictures. Heh. Posted by: tasker at August 14, 2012 05:38 PM (r2PLg) Posted by: USA at August 14, 2012 05:38 PM (6Cjut) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:38 PM (LRFds) 190
Heh...Brett Baier threw it back to The FIve saying "Apparently on a seven second delay."
Posted by: nickless at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (MMC8r) 191
Personally I would like the moderators to pay more attention to the all-important pansexual swing-vote bloc when discussing gay marriage, instead of reinforcing this nation's oppressive gender binaries.
Posted by: Mary Gonzalez (D-Pansexual Labyrinth) at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (60GaT) 192
Brett Baier "We now return to the Five on a seven second delay."
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (nEo/i) 193
Hah! Baier just did a tease for Special Report "now back to the Five which is now on a seven second delay"
Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (R/8dI) 194
Let's face it, the last thing the American people want to hear is a bunch of policy details if they can hear about Mitt Romeny's carcinogenic vapor trail.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (LYIrp) 195
Congressman Ryan, some people believe you married your wife for her earning power so you could spend time fishing, hunting, and concocting wild entitlement revision schemes. What do you say to these people? Posted by: Candy Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (hvwLi) 196
No questions about me, please. Respect my privacy!
Posted by: The dog BO ate at August 14, 2012 05:39 PM (mQMnK) 197
Then I want to hear Paul Ryan say this, "Purging is at last at hand. Day of Doom is here. All that is evil, all their allies; your parents, your leaders, those who would call themselves your judges; those who have lied and corrupted the Earth, they shall all be cleansed."
Nice. Posted by: the angel of death in a funny hat at August 14, 2012 05:40 PM (evdj2) 198
I met her once. Her, ahem, true talents don't come
across on TV. She really is a gorgeous woman. A liberal bubble-head, but a gorgeous woman. Posted by: Imus at August 14, 2012 05:37 PM (zXLtf) ----- mebbe..... but having that soiled by Anthony Weiner crosses her off my bunk list. Posted by: fixerupper at August 14, 2012 05:40 PM (C8hzL) 199
mfm- Romney we've heard rumors about your associations and business with RICH corporations, just how much money does a corporation need, how many jets, homes , bank accts?
mfm- Obama, Romney wants corporations to own every human soul, and work for free ,true? Posted by: willow at August 14, 2012 05:40 PM (TomZ9) 200
192 Drew in MO,
*beep* you know we *beep* care about *beep* seniors but you *beep* know we both know they have ALL the *beep* wealth in this *beep* up country.... why won't you *beep* let us buy *beep* votes with new *beep* entitlements silently like you *beep* always have in the past? //Bob Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:41 PM (LRFds) 201
I didn't walk away with D's not wanting anything about deficit reduction talked about in the debates, just one particular proposal, as if doing so would give some sort of false sense of inevitability that it is the ONLY proposal that will work.
Besides the point that, hey, just because the moderator doesn't specifically name "Bowles-Simpson" in their question, don't bank on the Republican answer not specifically mentioning it, I don't see this as much more than typical D childsplay. Did I miss the part where they asked for no questions on deficit reduction at all? Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 05:41 PM (W2YA6) Posted by: Mr A at August 14, 2012 05:42 PM (r4wIV) 203
The don't want the commission mentioned because two Democrat leaders recommended Ryan's plan and panned the President's as idiotic and destructive.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 05:43 PM (r4wIV) Posted by: Drew in MO at August 14, 2012 05:43 PM (nEo/i) 205
VP is a do nothing job according to Biden. What's to debate, other than his favorite video games?
Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2012 05:43 PM (uIz80) Posted by: Hannity at August 14, 2012 05:45 PM (v1uZf) 207
Bowles is nothing but a DINO bowel movement doing the Rethuglicans' bidding.
Posted by: Daily Kosa Nostra at August 14, 2012 05:45 PM (60GaT) 208
Kimberly Guilfoyle could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch ball. A very large ball. Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:45 PM (hvwLi) 209
What's to debate, other than his favorite video games?
He no doubt also has the Thomas the Tank Engine limited edition boxed set. Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 05:46 PM (fGgg4) 210
These debates are going to be a freakin joke.....it's not even worth watching.
Hell no, the Horde liveblog will be priceless. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 14, 2012 05:46 PM (TIIx5) 211
IllTemperedCur.....There is that of course
Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 05:47 PM (R/8dI) 212
Here come the 'debates'
Left Wing 'Moderator' (to BO): What kind of tree would you be, if you weren't chocolate Jesus? SCOAMF: Just -- uh -- um -- wait where's TOTUS? Left Wing 'Moderator' (to Romney): When did you stop beating your wife? Mitt: I'm glad you asked that, because it reminds me of Moochelle. I bet Barry wishes he wasn't such a pussy and could pimpslap that disgusting commie whore some sense. Posted by: BarryS at August 14, 2012 05:47 PM (RrFr3) 213
Kimberly Guilfoyle could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch ball. A very large ball.
You mean she tinhales? Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 05:47 PM (fGgg4) 214
And sadly Bob is one of the more tolerable liberals, I would have a beer with the jackass.
Posted by: Drew in MO at August 14, 2012 05:43 PM (nEo/i)<<<<<I would like to deliver him a beat down he would remember until Satans cock is replacing fiber in his fire hose colon. Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:47 PM (OlN4e) 215
today's begging email,from Jim Messedhimself:
Congressman Paul Ryan is the poster boy for the extreme Republican leadership in a Congress whose overall approval rating is 12 percent. His plan to dismantle Medicare is deeply unpopular with the general public, and especially undecided voters. You might be wondering why the hell Romney picked this guy. But this is a strategic pick that carries real danger for us. Here's the calculation: Mitt Romney doesn't need or expect Paul Ryan to convince even one undecided voter to cast their ballot for him. That's not what he's on the ticket for. He's there to reassure and inspire ultraconservative ideologues and corporate interests that they will have one of their own a heartbeat from the presidency. That means tens or even hundreds of millions more dollars for the Romney campaign and the array of outside groups supporting him -- and if current trends hold, more than 90 percent of that money will be spent on TV ads -- lying, distorting and trashing Barack Obama. Those ads will have more impact on undecided voters than anything Paul Ryan himself does or says. Mitt Romney is convinced that picking Paul Ryan is a great investment for him. And his campaign is already touting the pledges and donations they've received as a result, with fundraising events planned for this week. (wah wah wah) Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 05:47 PM (bJm7W) 216
"a 14" plush Paul Ryan doll"
HOLY SHIT WE'D SELL MILLIONS! Perhaps have a small line of merchandise. Suited Paul Ryan smells like newly minted money. Flannel Paul Ryan smells like gunpowder and pine trees. Biz-Cas Paul Ryan smells like smoked brisket. Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 05:48 PM (W2YA6) 217
Will the Republican Candidate have to endorse obama like McCain did last time in the Debates?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:48 PM (05RcU) 218
My ancestor lost his site fighting for the North in the Civil War. Barack Obama's father is the descendent of an African tribal chief, who sold his political opponents into slavery. Posted by: Jack at August 14, 2012 05:48 PM (wUFaM) 219
Kimberly Guilfoyle could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch ball. A very large ball.
Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:45 PM (hvwLi) -------------------------------------------- Go on.... Posted by: Trailer Hitch at August 14, 2012 05:48 PM (4cXbW) 220
Both Romney and Ryan are so extreme I will step our of character and vote for President Obama, even though I'm a staunch Republican. Posted by: Meggy McCain at August 14, 2012 05:49 PM (hvwLi) 221
I donated one hundo to Romney-Ryan yesterday. However I am a poor cracker who was mindtricked into doing so by the Kochtopus
Posted by: JParker at August 14, 2012 05:50 PM (60GaT) 222
hmmmm
Posted by: phoenixgirl at work, team dagny at August 14, 2012 05:50 PM (MVKMz) 223
@208 - shut your filthy mouth. In my mind, Kimberly Guilfoyle is the consummate lady.
...now...if you were talking about Jenna whats-her-name, that is on mid-mornings... Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 05:50 PM (W2YA6) 224
204 Drew in Mo,
Oh yeah loads of charm....which is actually perversely about right.... for Moonbats in the blabbogenzia Carville and Beckel are not the craziest you meet Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:51 PM (LRFds) 225
THE BALL ON THAT TRAILER HITCH
Posted by: Truckster at August 14, 2012 05:52 PM (cCyvH) 226
"Will the Republican Candidate have to endorse obama like McCain did last time in the Debates?"
CROWLEY: "Mister President, what do you feel has been your highest accomplishment in your first term?" OBAMA: "...blah...bladdy bladdy blah..." CROWLEY: "Governor Romney, same question. What do you feel has been President Obama's greatest acomplishment?" Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 05:52 PM (W2YA6) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:53 PM (LRFds) 228
The judge in Drew Peterson's murder case says he will announce his decision on a mistrial motion Wednesday morning.
Judge Edward Burmila is again considering a possible mistrial after another blunder from prosecutors in the former police officer's trial. Peterson attorney Joel Brodsky says the trial has been filled with "an avalanche of prejudicial, illegal evidence" and the case should be thrown out. Prosecutors argued against the move. Peterson is accused in the 2004 death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio. He was charged after his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in 2007. The judge on Tuesday afternoon berated a prosecutor after she raised an order of protection, a subject the judge previously barred. The prosecutor apologized to the judge, saying it was her fault. ???? Where do they get these idiotic prosecutors from? Are they all democrats? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 05:53 PM (05RcU) 229
Although still a small boy, Ryan's first job was coaching Dale Earnhardt in the finer points of intimidation.
Posted by: Li'l Nome Factz at August 14, 2012 05:53 PM (PcoXF) 230
"Suited Paul Ryan smells like newly minted money.
Flannel Paul Ryan smells like gunpowder and pine trees. Biz-Cas Paul Ryan smells like smoked brisket." Its never made sense to me why men's colognes don't have these kind of scents. I mean do women really want a dude to smell like flowers and spices? Wouldn't you rather he smelled like axel grease and newly mowed lawn, or leather? I don't especially like the idea of men wearing essentially perfume, but I do get that it is a powerful sense memory thing for women. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 05:53 PM (r4wIV) 231
My favorite Fox chick is a news reader named Diane Macedo. Beautiful girl with great news reading ability, and a great set of hooter's. Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:54 PM (hvwLi) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 05:54 PM (LRFds) 233
@225 - I do believe we have witnessed a new variant on the AoS meme.
I propose weammend the AoS Style Handbook accordingly: When discussing a man, we shall use "The balls on this guy!" When discussing a woman, we shall use "The ball on that hitch!" Can I get a motion? Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 05:54 PM (W2YA6) 234
CROWLEY: "Governor Romney, same question. What do you feel has been President Obama's greatest acomplishment?"
Option 1: ROMNEY: "I congratulate President Obama for maintaining the Bush policies in the Global War On Terror." Option 2: ROMNEY: "I congratulate President Obama for not dribbling his coffee down his shirt just before the debate began this evening." Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 05:54 PM (8y9MW) 235
So.........if the socialists/progressives/liberals/communists want all sorts of questions to be banned, is it o.k. to ask 'Mr. Obam the Flim Flam Man' ®
"When did you renounce the Communist Party?" Posted by: alwyr at August 14, 2012 05:54 PM (Oh5R1) 236
55And NO MATH!
Posted by: Hair Plugs Joe at August 14, 2012 05:09 PM (3ZjAP) Sometimes the math looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about math is she's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When she comes at ya, she doesn't even seem to be livin'... until she tries math, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin' Posted by: Johnnyreb at August 14, 2012 05:54 PM (/JHRa) 237
Replace Beckel with Kirsten Powers so we can check out her legs like Kimberly and Tarantula.
Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 05:29 PM (hvwLi) That would make "The Three" truly awesome! Posted by: Hrothgar (Dagny Aficionado ) at August 14, 2012 05:55 PM (Cnqmv) 238
CROWLEY: "Mister President, what do you feel has been your highest accomplishment in your first term?" OBAMA: "...blah...bladdy bladdy blah..." CROWLEY: "Governor Romney, same question. What do you feel has been President Obama's greatest acomplishment?"
Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 05:52 PM (W2YA6) ------------------------------------------- Romney: That's easy. Not stumbling into the styrofoam Greek columns in 2008. Posted by: Soona at August 14, 2012 05:55 PM (4cXbW) Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 14, 2012 05:56 PM (8y9MW) 240
Second
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 14, 2012 05:56 PM (fGgg4) 241
When Ryan goes out on stage to debate Slow Joe, he should be dressed in a full ghillie suit and sporting a spiked war mace.
Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 05:56 PM (OlN4e) 242
WTF?!
You already took down the Ryan beefcake, and all you gave us instead was that treasonous witch Napolitano? Shame on you, Ace! Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at August 14, 2012 05:56 PM (F0o5k) 243
Mr. Ryan, it has been said you are in love with Ayn Rand and even have a blowup poster of her. Why do you hate Christians? Mr. Biden clearly is a devout Catholic but you sir are a big meanie.
Posted by: Candy Crowley at August 14, 2012 05:57 PM (60GaT) 244
Bill Bennett has been using paralipsis to mention the unmentionable, therefore disclosing to gist of the salty subject.
Our candidates need to practice this during the debates while moderated by leftist. Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2012 05:57 PM (hiMsy) 245
Nam Grunt.. good to see you again! Hope all is well. as well as can be expected while SCOAMF is running things anyway.
Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 14, 2012 05:58 PM (UljOc) 246
All this tells me is that Democrats are nervous about the debates, very nervous.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 14, 2012 05:58 PM (T0NGe) 247
You would think that the people would want to take the training wheels off the Obama express after 3 1/2 years.
As long as they don't restrict answers then I would pop off an answer based around the banned Bowles question. Posted by: Drider at August 14, 2012 05:59 PM (PsHkt) Posted by: Democrats to debate monitors at August 14, 2012 05:59 PM (wUFaM) 249
You already took down the Ryan beefcake, and all you gave us instead was that treasonous witch Napolitano?
You sound like you might like to buy a Paul Ryan plushie doll. Posted by: fluffy at August 14, 2012 06:00 PM (3SvjA) 250
Beckel apologizes? Fire his scummy ass! Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 06:00 PM (hvwLi) 251
Quite right AmishDude. They are shitting their collective pantaloons.
Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 14, 2012 06:00 PM (UljOc) 252
CROWLEY: "Governor Romney, same question. What do you feel has been President Obama's greatest acomplishment?" "Figuring out the difference between the windows andthe doors at the White House." "Oh, and figuring out how to work those tricky umbrellas. Impressive." Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 14, 2012 06:00 PM (oX7vY) 253
Posted by: AmishDude at August 14, 2012 05:58 PM (T0NGe) <<<<< Heh, they're spray painting their walls with the contents of their colons. Posted by: maddogg at August 14, 2012 06:01 PM (OlN4e) 254
@242, I agree.
Ace or one of the cob-loggers should post this pic right away (close up the spaces): http:// heygirlitspaulryan .tumblr.com /image/ 29411118713 Posted by: Palandine at August 14, 2012 06:01 PM (g7D8V) 255
Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:02 PM (6o4Fb) 256
"but I do get that it is a powerful sense memory thing for women."
Mrs. Reason tells me that one of the main reasons she fell head-over-heels for me was because I happened to wear the same cologne her father wears on our first date. I mean, what are the odds? But hey, I won't complain. I have no clue what half of the "smells" men are "supposed" to wear are about. Honestly, I have no clue what "Arctic Fresh!" means on my deodorant. But it smells better to me than the "Pure Sport!" alternative, so I go with it. I would absolutely wear the hell out of a cologne that smelled like something relevant to tasks that men traditionally accomplish. Freshly mowed lawn. Turtle wax. Topsoil. Seared meat. Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 06:02 PM (W2YA6) 257
Watching Ed's podcast and MKH appears to be broadcasting from her boudior....how freakin xclent....
Posted by: Finn McCool at August 14, 2012 06:02 PM (R/8dI) 258
I would absolutely wear the hell out of a cologne that smelled like something relevant to tasks that men traditionally accomplish. Freshly mowed lawn. Turtle wax. Topsoil. Seared meat.
Hoppes No. 9 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:04 PM (ogdab) 259
These debates are a waste of time.
Posted by: natasha at August 14, 2012 06:04 PM (pyYXJ) 260
I'm glad that the "Hey Girl" gave a shout-out to Janna Ryan.
I wonder what Ryan thinks of all this. He's an attractive man (although I'm not swooning) but I have a feeling since he's quite a a thoughtful, cerebrall person he would be rather embarrassed by it, Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2012 06:06 PM (kKAaV) 261
I would absolutely wear the hell out of a cologne that smelled like
something relevant to tasks that men traditionally accomplish. Freshly mowed lawn. Turtle wax. Topsoil. Seared meat. Where were you when I was trying to market my "farted in bed" cologne? Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 14, 2012 06:07 PM (SY2Kh) 262
FOR OBAMA: Mr President, in light of the massive fiscal crises you inherited from previous administrations and considering the deft and highly intellegent way in wich you set this sinking ship to right, please tell us why the American people and the world at large has not recognized your supreme awesomeness?
FOR ROMNEY: Hey Gov, when did you stop beating your wife? Posted by: Jay at August 14, 2012 06:07 PM (397Yw) 263
"I propose weammend the AoS Style Handbook accordingly:
When discussing a man, we shall use "The balls on this guy!" When discussing a woman, we shall use "The ball on that hitch!" " As long as you use "hit the rotors" instead of "jumped the shark" as per Tim Blair's idea too The advantage of wearing manly smells would be that you'd chase off the women who prefer metrosexuals. Unless it stirred something primal him them and changed them over... Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:07 PM (r4wIV) Posted by: Necrophiliac at August 14, 2012 06:08 PM (VE1KN) 265
Old Spice. If it was good enough for grandpa...
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 14, 2012 06:09 PM (cCyvH) 266
"I wonder what Ryan thinks of all this."
My guess is he's confused and surprised. Not a lot of guys really think of themselves as desirable or sexy to women, unless they're vain pricks to begin with. His wife probably is just nodding with that "I've known it all along, girls" look on her face. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:09 PM (r4wIV) 267
"Where were you when I was trying to market my "farted in bed" cologne?"
New, exclusively from Calvin Klein. Own the intensity. Own the power. Own Dutch Oven. Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 06:09 PM (5npD/) 268
Long time reader, very rare poster. Was hoping to vent to the moron community.
Went down to the local GOP HQ today, deciding that the time had come for me to volunteer. This isn't small stuff for me. I have a lot of social anxiety. Making that leap to "I'm going to be a part of this" is a big deal for me, and also is in general. The local county clowns don't even have internet in their office. Called the state office after helping out a bit, asked what I could do, and explained what had happened at the local county office. The lady was nice, she laughed with me a bit, then told me she wasn't surprised. And this, morons, is why I am jaded. Posted by: Hopeless at August 14, 2012 06:10 PM (reCR+) 269
Again, ladies I direct you to S. Weasel's bodice ripper version of Ryan:
http://tinyurl.com/c3x2vfa Her stoatiness approves strongly of Ryan. Oh yes. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:10 PM (r4wIV) 270
Actually, I swear by Joop. I've had strange women come up to me out of the blue to say how good I smell. Hubba!
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 14, 2012 06:11 PM (cCyvH) 271
I agree with you, Christopher and I don't think Ryan is a narcissist..
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2012 06:11 PM (kKAaV) 272
ymmv Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 14, 2012 06:12 PM (cCyvH) 273
"I wonder what Ryan thinks of all this."
I hope he gets a big kick out of it. I know I do. But yeah, he's a good, modest, decent man. So I'm sure he blushes more than Janna does over one of the more recent additions from yesterday: Hey Girl, I like big cuts and I cannot lie. Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 06:12 PM (5npD/) 274
And this, morons, is why I am jaded.
It's fine to feel jaded right now. The enthusiasm isn't really needed for another month or two. It's too early for phone banking, door knocking and the like to have much effect. They probably just didn't have much for you to do right now, but that'll change soon enough. Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 14, 2012 06:13 PM (SY2Kh) 275
"The local county clowns don't even have internet in their office."
Al Gore invented that! He might use it to spy on us! Posted by: local county clowns at August 14, 2012 06:14 PM (5npD/) 276
Okay, here are the rules of the debate: No talking about money, in any way, shape or form. No talking about jobs, debt, racism, animals, vegetables, minerals (including oil), no references to previous promises, speeches or books. And you cannot use any words that contain the letters E, S, T, N, R, or O. Let's get started Posted by: Democrats for free speech at August 14, 2012 06:14 PM (B1lqk) Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 14, 2012 06:14 PM (ZKzrr) Posted by: Hopeless at August 14, 2012 06:14 PM (reCR+) 279
Why does our side tolerate this? Ironic that Fox creams all the others in ratings yet they are not on it....just Libs. BS!!!
Posted by: Barry S at August 14, 2012 06:14 PM (HClPL) 280
Hopeless-
Good for you for volunteering.! I have had to call people for campaigns and I didn't like it but did it anyway because I felt I needed to. I am sorry they seem ill prepared. Are you from a state that is either very blue or a red one which takes Repub votes for granted. Could you volunteer at the larger office? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2012 06:14 PM (kKAaV) 281
I was embarrassed by some of the more recent additions. I assume Ryan might be,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2012 06:15 PM (kKAaV) 282
"Old Spice. If it was good enough for grandpa..."
Dad always used Old Spice, and I thought it smelled OK but I'd rather smell like raked leaves and that ozone smell of rain. Or pine sap and newly sawdust. Something that screams MAN. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:15 PM (r4wIV) 283
I only snort coke from the ass of a hooker wearing Jovan Musk. I especially enjoy Krystal who has a tat on her lowerback with arrows pointing towards the sweet spot. The inscription reads ENTER HERE with a down arrow. Posted by: Dick Morris at August 14, 2012 06:15 PM (hvwLi) 284
Your answer must be in the form of a question.
Posted by: Alex Trebek at August 14, 2012 06:16 PM (cCyvH) 285
Brit Hume is a tough, tough, interviewer. Fair, yes, but probing in a quiet "Colombo-esque" manner.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 14, 2012 06:16 PM (zrpqj) 286
"Again, ladies I direct you to S. Weasel's bodice ripper version of Ryan: "
Wouldn't that make it a Weasel Zipper? Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 06:16 PM (5npD/) 287
I hear Sex Panther works pretty well.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 14, 2012 06:18 PM (cCyvH) 288
Way off topic
Is Shaq a republican? the reason I ask is he is campaigning for a republican sheriff in Florida. Posted by: Long Island at August 14, 2012 06:18 PM (p12qs) 289
It smells like bigfoot's dick.
Posted by: Intern at August 14, 2012 06:18 PM (/YJYi) 290
This Ryan pick makes me think more highly of Romney. Apparently he went against the advice of some of his people. Unlike Obama who picked a man as VP who wasn't threatening at all, Romney picked a person who is young, intelligent and good looking. It shows he is a good kind of leader-a secure person who surrounds himself with good talent.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2012 06:19 PM (kKAaV) Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:19 PM (r4wIV) Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 06:19 PM (0q2P7) 293
Nothing about Shaq's politics on wiki except that he is a Muslim and Freemason, neither of which I knew.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:21 PM (/YJYi) 294
yick
Posted by: willow at August 14, 2012 06:21 PM (TomZ9) 295
Special Edition I-Am-Making-New-Hampshire-Pink Plush Paul Ryan doll will smell like maple syrup.
Posted by: reason at August 14, 2012 06:22 PM (5npD/) 296
Nothing about Shaq's politics on wiki except that he is a Muslim and Freemason, neither of which I knew.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:21 PM (/YJYi) Shaq is a Muslim? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:22 PM (05RcU) 297
@296, that's what wiki said.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:23 PM (/YJYi) Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 14, 2012 06:23 PM (cCyvH) 299
Why did the Dims even have to write a letter?
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:24 PM (a9Izx) 300
Nothing about Shaq's politics on wiki except that he is a Muslim and Freemason, neither of which I knew.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:21 PM (/YJYi) I just read that ....and I didn't know either of those things about him also. Posted by: Tami at August 14, 2012 06:24 PM (X6akg) 301
@289 - go on...
Posted by: B. Fwank at August 14, 2012 06:25 PM (NBj0d) 302
268 Hopeless,
it happens... when you hear "ghost of lee atwater" that is what is being lamented... we lose this thing if all don't break loose a lot of us need to step up and fight for either this party's heart or build a new party... Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:25 PM (LRFds) 303
Special Edition I-Am-Making-New-Hampshire-Pink Plush Paul Ryan doll will smell like maple syrup.
The vibrating version costs extra though. Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 14, 2012 06:26 PM (SY2Kh) 304
Shaq is a Muslim? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:22 PM (05RcU) 297 @296, that's what wiki said. Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:23 PM (/YJYi) A born again muslim? give me a break Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:26 PM (05RcU) 305
we lose this thing if all don't break loose a lot of us need to step up and fight for either this party's heart or build a new party...
Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:25 PM (LRFds) Some of us have been there for a couple of elections already. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (lZBBB) 306
These Sikh's seem to have their heads on straight(They are traditionally warriors)
SEAN SORRENTINO visits a Sikh temple, encounters friendly, patriotic gun enthusiasts. “The guys I was sitting next to were both Sikh and gun owners. We talked about guns, and we’ll be getting together sometime soon to go shooting. One of my new friends said that he was surprised that no one in the Temple shot at the intruder. He was mystified as to why there was no one with a gun available to shoot back. He assured me that it was almost certain that there were concealed carriers in the congregation. I did not go to the temple to advocate for concealed carry. I was, however, treated to a discussion of how banning guns would not change anything. I was told that criminals would get guns no matter what the laws, and that taking guns from the honest people would only make things worse. In short, it was a discussion pretty much like any that you would read on any pro-gun blog. Then we had a tasty lunch.” Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (6o4Fb) 307
"Why did the Dims even have to write a letter?"
I'm glad they did, because now its public record and can be reacted to rather than a gut instinct of collusion. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (r4wIV) 308
I would absolutely wear the hell out of a cologne that smelled like something relevant to tasks that men traditionally accomplish. Freshly mowed lawn. Turtle wax. Topsoil. Seared meat.
So, just mow your lawn with seared meat, or wax your turtle with topsoil. Posted by: toby928© at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (QupBk) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (LRFds) 310
Although Waxing your turtle sounds like something from the Urban Dictionary.
Posted by: toby928© at August 14, 2012 06:28 PM (QupBk) 311
"Although Waxing your turtle sounds like something from the Urban Dictionary."
Something that involves beans and flicken. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:29 PM (r4wIV) 312
292, thats an oxymoron
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:29 PM (v9wwx) 313
Has anybody come out with a story as to how we got these moderators anyway? Who is this debate commission?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 14, 2012 06:29 PM (T0NGe) 314
we lose this thing if all don't break loose a lot of us need to step up and fight for either this party's heart or build a new party...
Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:25 PM (LRFds) Some of us have been there for a couple of elections already. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (lZBBB) If we lose this election, the country that will be left in 2016 will be unrecognizable Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:29 PM (05RcU) 315
Well I read the source article for it and apparently he's friends with crazy lou farrahkan. Now I wish I hadn't read the source article.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:29 PM (/YJYi) 316
I think someone needs to get together a "Hey, gilr" Romney website for the older ladies here. Considering Romney is always called stiff, it might make him laugh and he's actually a nice looking man.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 14, 2012 06:30 PM (kKAaV) Posted by: Hopeless at August 14, 2012 06:30 PM (reCR+) 318
saw this via Althouse, from Rasmussen:
Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan’s favorables are up after the first blush of national media exposure following Mitt Romney’s selection of him as his vice presidential running mate. But as is generally the case with running mates, Ryan gives only a slight boost to Romney. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable opinion of Ryan, while 32% view him unfavorably. This includes 29% with a Very Favorable view of Romney’s vice presidential pick and 13% with a Very Unfavorable one. Only 13% are now unfamiliar with Ryan, and five percent (5%) are not sure about him. Just prior to being picked as Romney’s running mate, only 39% viewed Ryan favorably, while 25% held an unfavorable opinion of him. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 06:30 PM (bJm7W) 319
Apparently, I've been using the wrong email address in all of my posts for a while now. The correct one appears int his post, for those cobs who care.
Posted by: Truman North at August 14, 2012 06:30 PM (I2LwF) 320
Who is this debate commission?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 14, 2012 06:29 PM (T0NGe) Not friends of ours Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:30 PM (05RcU) 321
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Posted by: Underground Vulgarian at August 14, 2012 06:30 PM (OIuTH) 322
314 NGU,
we'll rally in Texas boys... Yeah I know....the party needs to win or split because this "donk by default" shit sucks....Bush passed a LOT I structurally hate Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:31 PM (LRFds) 323
From Legal Insurrection.
A whistleblower former employee of the Illinois Student Assistance Commission (ISACorps) has revealed that she was coerced to attend Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow PUSH partisan forum with Nancy Pelosi, pose for photo ops, given instructions on loading students up with student debt, and then reimbursed travel and hotel expenses with federal funds. As reported in the Daily Caller this morning, the whistleblower signed an affadavit attesting to these claims, which appear to reveal ISACorps as either illegally or unethically coercing 76 state employees essentially to stump for Democratic Party candidates. Nancy Pelosi was the headline speaker at the event the 76 ISACorps employees attended, where she endorsed Jesse Jackson Jr. for Congress and praised the elder Jackson’s handle on the U.S. Constitution, as originally reported by Rebel Pundit (VIDEO) in March 2012. After the meeting, according to the affadavit, the ISACorps employees were escorted to a back room: “Jesse Jackson Sr. said to work hard to help as many students as possible acquire student loans. Jackson Sr. encouraged us to network students, hold rallies and organize for ‘student loan forgiveness legislation,’” she wrote in her affidavit…. “Jesse Jackson Sr. also told us not to worry about loading students up with too much college debt, because Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats will eventually forgive all student loan debt. On the promise of debt forgiveness, ‘those people will continue to vote Democratic.’” Bailey added that Jackson Sr. “asked how many ISACorps workers would be able to come to future events because our massive support looked great both in-person and on television.” Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:31 PM (6o4Fb) 324
318 MALLY,
he is up among LVs despite the newsies vetting him more in 4 days than Ogabe in 4 years folks,..... the scare mongering etc etc We got a wave building Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:32 PM (LRFds) 325
steevy, you don't expect people to pay back college loans when they didn't learn anything, do you?
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 06:33 PM (bJm7W) 326
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:27 PM (6o4Fb)
Sikh men wear a traditional knife, called a kirpan, as a symbol of baptism. Traditionally, the knife can be used only for self-defense or in defense of those who cannot defend themselves. Add in the 'never bring a knife to a gun fight'? and its a wonder that the cops got that guy first... Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 06:33 PM (lZBBB) 327
Paul Ryan voted against Simpson-Bowles. It was as good a plan as we will get too.
Tom Coburn voted for it, btw. Posted by: Mary Jane Rottencrotch at August 14, 2012 06:33 PM (SuuHM) Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:34 PM (fJody) 329
" Let me repeat.
No fecking internet." Sounds like that's where you need to be, for your input and leadership. You could be their net consultant and run the website, handle local social media stuff. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:34 PM (r4wIV) 330
317 Helpless,
Well I am not gonna slash my wrists over it...if the office is not up yet and the state party doesn't man it it is sunk cost... pessimism is down the hall this cycle we have a nation to save. Let America Work RR12 Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:34 PM (LRFds) 331
326 Inside about 8-10 feet a knife is very competitive with a gun,if the other guy has to draw the gun first.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:35 PM (6o4Fb) 332
"steevy, you don't expect people to pay back college loans when they didn't learn anything, do you?"
15% of all college loans unpaid are with people over 50 years old. If you ain't paid it by then, you probably aren't going to. http://tinyurl.com/9q83jzm Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:35 PM (r4wIV) 333
328 Eliz,
exactly...of course one or the other could shrug and say thanks for the cash.... and might I suggest if all hell breaks loose join the Free Masons they have international contacts and may help you go to ground. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:35 PM (LRFds) 334
A lot of Sikhs are concealed carry guys: they are the Warriors of God, according to their faith. Apparently none were packing in the temple, probably assuming that they shouldn't need to in a place of religion, in America.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:36 PM (r4wIV) Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:36 PM (05RcU) 336
I have heard that Shaq is a muslim but he never changed his name nor does he speak about it that I've heard.Maybe Kareem got him into it.As far as him being a Republican,he is a very pro law enforcement guy and his father was ca reer Army NCO.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (6o4Fb) 337
Is freemasonry haram?
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (4jJCE) 338
elizabethe IIRC something I watched on the History Channel stated that Freemasons are required to believe in a Creator, but not anything specific, just as long as you acknowledge there is a God. I could be wrong though.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (/YJYi) 339
How can you be a Muslim and a Freemason? It's not possible.
Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:34 PM (fJody) Your not under the assumption that Shaq is in Mensa are you? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (05RcU) 340
So, who's the next Attorney General: Rudy Giuliani or Chris Christie?
Posted by: A confident Craig Poe at August 14, 2012 06:38 PM (BVkEs) 341
Eau De Ryan would smell like freshly made bratwurst. He kills, skins and butchers his own deer and makes his own sausage from it.
Posted by: mama winger in Paul Ryan's district at August 14, 2012 06:38 PM (P6QsQ) 342
From the politico article, "PBS’s Jim Lehrer, the
veteran moderator who in November 2011 stated unequivocally that he would never host another presidential debate, told POLITICO. (He explains his change of heart by likening the invitation to a draft notice. “You have to do it,” he says.)" See Jim had to come back if it meant doing his part to get Obama elected. Posted by: Drew in Mo at August 14, 2012 06:38 PM (nEo/i) 343
337 Jean,
you betcha... Knights Templar style... Hell it may well be we need to get back some of that old Crusader magic one day Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:38 PM (LRFds) 344
Freemasons are deists,not necessarily religious.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:38 PM (6o4Fb) 345
So, who's the next Attorney General: Rudy Giuliani or Chris Christie?
Posted by: A confident Craig Poe at August 14, 2012 06:38 PM (BVkEs) What about that guy Joe the Sheriff from Arizona? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:39 PM (05RcU) 346
"Inside about 8-10 feet a knife is very competitive with a gun,if the other guy has to draw the gun first."
longer, if you're James Coburn http://youtu.be/YjDR9aMRUhg Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:39 PM (r4wIV) 347
Christie is a morbidly obese dhimmi.Fuck him.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:39 PM (6o4Fb) 348
338 Adam,
and that is to technically allow protestant and catholic not to kill each other.... could a Muslim join? Yeah....according to the Masons Islam on the other hand wants to have a chat copy? Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:39 PM (LRFds) 349
328 How can you be a Muslim and a Freemason? It's not possible.
Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:34 PM (fJody) Actualy, there are both Jewish, and Moslem Freemason Lodges... you must believe in the Fatherhood of God... not a particular Prophet. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 06:39 PM (lZBBB) 350
Another OT question: Is Jesse Jackson, Jr. still a Congressman when in rehab? Is he still a candidate?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (T0NGe) 351
346 I lnow the clip without having to look.Magnificent Seven.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (6o4Fb) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (LRFds) 353
My Husband is a Mason and yes you can be a Muslim,Jew, Protestant, Catholic, or any other religion as long as you believe in a Supreme being...
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (W2Z3C) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:41 PM (LRFds) 355
Your not under the assumption that Shaq is in Mensa are you?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (05RcU) No, no, of course not. I happen to like Shaq (I used to work at the Forum when the Laker's played there). It's just that Muslim's are usually so fervent. Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (/YJYi) I was just looking at the Freemasonry website and they have a lot of emphasis on God the Father. Something Muslims are not big on, IIRC. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:41 PM (fJody) 356
"BARACK OBAMA
Buys Brews at State Fair 'FOUR MORE BEERS!'" http://tinyurl.com/92s3d7b Not TMZ too...and there is a poll asking who you are voting for in the article "The video's hilarious -- Obama even tells the crowd, "Hey everybody who's over 21, you gotta buy a beer!" Let's see Paul Ryan pull something that cool." Is he worried that cause he's way over 50 that he's not cool anymore? Presidential midlife crisis? Guess we'll be seeing the sports car and the blond soon? Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 06:41 PM (oZfic) 357
Alright, again according to wiki, to be a Freemason you must acknowledge a Supreme Being, or creator. No explanation of beliefs is required and it's forbidden to speak of politics or religion inside a temple.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 06:41 PM (/YJYi) 358
Brit Hume is a tough, tough, interviewer. Fair, yes, but probing in a quiet "Colombo-esque" manner.
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 14, 2012 06:16 PM (zrpqj) I think he is one of the better news guys. I was bummed when he semi retired from Special Report Posted by: The Jackhole at August 14, 2012 06:42 PM (nTgAI) 359
by the way on the Islam and Masonry thing....the one notable exception is the NoI led by Calypso Louie is in bed deep with Illinois lodges
Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:42 PM (LRFds) 360
My Husband is a Mason and yes you can be a Muslim,Jew, Protestant, Catholic, or any other religion as long as you believe in a Supreme being...
Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (W2Z3C) Defer to the knowledge. Supposedly my Grandfather was a Mason; but he never shared any of that with us. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:42 PM (fJody) 361
Another OT question: Is Jesse Jackson, Jr. still a Congressman when in rehab? Is he still a candidate?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (T0NGe) He's a Democrat so he can do as he likes. Now STFU Posted by: The Democrats at August 14, 2012 06:42 PM (05RcU) 362
and his father was ca reer Army NCO.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 06:37 PM (6o4Fb) Stepfather. According to Wiki, he has no relationship with his biological father. I think it said he's never spoken to him. Posted by: Tami at August 14, 2012 06:43 PM (X6akg) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:43 PM (LRFds) 364
Inside about 8-10 feet a knife is very competitive with a gun,if the other guy has to draw the gun first.
Not really arguing here--just retransmitting what I've seen demonstrated: If the gun is holstered and the knife is out, it's seven yards for competitive shooters. It's goes up from there for your average permit holder. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (ogdab) 365
James Coburn was so badass he only said 4 words before killing a man. Before that movie he wasn't much of a star. Everyone expected the kid playing the local was going to be a huge star, but it was Coburn that walked away big from that film.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (r4wIV) Posted by: NAACP, ACLU, CBC at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (/YJYi) 367
If Shaq is in bed with crazy louie from the nation of islam then he can drop dead as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (05RcU) 368
Politico says that Soledad Chuck Todd were considered as debate moderators but shot down.
I wonder why? Posted by: The Q at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (B/yDO) 369
Another OT question: Is Jesse Jackson, Jr. still a Congressman when in rehab? Is he still a candidate?
Is he still a Democrat? Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a plush Paul Ryan doll at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (ZKzrr) 370
353 My Husband is a Mason and yes you can be a Muslim,Jew, Protestant, Catholic, or any other religion as long as you believe in a Supreme being... Posted by: the pink cracker formerly known as the hobbit Donna at August 14, 2012 06:40 PM (W2Z3C) I don't think Catholics are too big on the Masons though. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (GULKT) 371
Yeah....according to the Masons Islam on the other hand wants to have a chat copy?
Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:39 PM (LRFds) that was my thought. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (fJody) 372
355 Eliz,
indeed... like I said I am late to joining I have forebears that were....it can be done...Masonry is fine with any that adhere to its philosophy but the other faiths...."eh" ask the French about it. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (LRFds) Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (dAoHD) 374
"If the gun is holstered and the knife is out, it's seven yards for competitive shooters. It's goes up from there for your average permit holder."
I don't think most people understand the reach that you can have even with a short blade. One step and arm's length is over six feet. And you can do it FAST. Put a sword in that and you have a ten foot circle of death around you. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (r4wIV) 375
I don't think Catholics are too big on the Masons though.
Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (GULKT) One of the Docs in my Navy Unit is a Catholic and a Mason and a Strong Conservative and a Yankee Fan Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (05RcU) 376
It's just that Muslim's are usually so fervent.
I see that sven beat me @359, but Nation of Ex-Cons is not quite the same. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:46 PM (ogdab) 377
370 Buzzion, Yeah ask the French....but exactly....
I respect the Masons but a Mason is a Mason who has to cope with the nearby non masons more than with his brothers. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:46 PM (LRFds) 378
331, thats where the hammerless snubs take over ... or the asp. Never want to get in a knife on knife fight.
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:46 PM (duqON) 379
I don't think Catholics are too big on the Masons though.
Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (GULKT) That's the other way around. Freemason's have been historically anti-papist (and anti-royal) hence its popularity among the Founders. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:46 PM (fJody) 380
364 Inside about 8-10 feet a knife is very competitive with a gun,if the other guy has to draw the gun first. Not really arguing here--just retransmitting what I've seen demonstrated: If the gun is holstered and the knife is out, it's seven yards for competitive shooters. It's goes up from there for your average permit holder. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (ogdab) Remember goofy knife guy with jean shorts attacking cardboard cutouts? That was supposed to be what he was emphasizing. That silly video had him talking about 21 feet a lot. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:47 PM (GULKT) 381
I don't think Catholics are too big on the Masons though.
The devout have Knights of Columbus to scratch that itch. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:47 PM (ogdab) 382
They should let Greg Gutfeld moderate all the debates
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 06:48 PM (05RcU) 383
"The Catholic Church has declared that she considers those societies illicit and forbidden which (1) unite their members for the purpose of conspiring against the State or Church; (2) demand the observance of secrecy to such an extent that it must be maintained even before the rightful ecclesiastical authority; (3) exact an oath from their members or a promise of blind and absolute obedience; (4) make use of a ritual and ceremonies that constitute them sects. http://tinyurl.com/26acmup
My mom has always told us that Catholics are forbidden to join "secret societies". It seems from this article though that their position has evolved since my mom was a kid and learned this from the brothers. Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 06:48 PM (oZfic) 384
The worst part about the knife / gun debate is when the guy shoots you after you stab him
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 14, 2012 06:48 PM (nTgAI) 385
Like Kate Upton?
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (dAoHD) http://tinyurl.com/9g8fjw6That'll do donkey, That'll do. Posted by: Shrek at August 14, 2012 06:49 PM (/YJYi) 386
381 KoC are some tough guys too.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 06:50 PM (LRFds) 387
Remember goofy knife guy with jean shorts attacking cardboard cutouts? That was supposed to be what he was emphasizing. That silly video had him talking about 21 feet a lot.
I never saw that. The demonstration I saw was for driving home the point that it pays to be alert. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:50 PM (ogdab) 388
Well, that's the problem with any of these fights. L'Amour was fond of pointing out that almost nobody dies from the first gunshot. Yeah it hurts a lot and you might wish you were dead, but you can usually keep fighting. So one shot, one stab... still got enough life in you to keep going and put the hurts on people.
Most protestant denominations forbid secret societies and such as well. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:52 PM (r4wIV) 389
My KoC has five bars on thr premises.
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:52 PM (duqON) 390
America has no problem that can't be solved by more abortions.
Posted by: Barky O'Genius at August 14, 2012 06:53 PM (QKKT0) 391
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 06:45 PM (r4wIV)
With the 45 inch Rapiers I fence with (Elizabethan Fencer)... Measura Larga (Large Measure, where I have to move to hit you, not just extend my arm), in a full Fleche (cross step lunge).... pretty close to 15 feet... Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 06:54 PM (lZBBB) 392
379 I don't think Catholics are too big on the Masons though. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (GULKT) That's the other way around. Freemason's have been historically anti-papist (and anti-royal) hence its popularity among the Founders. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 06:46 PM (fJody) Hence the reason for the Church to not be fond of them. This is the wiki page on the Declaration of Masonic Associations. http://tinyurl.com/9o7h3sh They consider anyone enrolled in a masonic organization to be sinning. Seems like that still is the policy. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:54 PM (GULKT) 393
The worst part about the knife / gun debate is when the guy shoots you after you stab him
Good point. I was approaching the question from the other direction and under the conditions steevy gave @331. I have no idea who would have the advantage at various starting distances if both the gun and the knife were drawn. The seven yards scenario presumes a determined attacker with a knife using surprise. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:55 PM (ogdab) 394
Romeo13, how do think you would fair vs. an Asp?
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:57 PM (duqON) 395
>>>I don't think Catholics are too big on the Masons though. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:44 PM (GULKT) >>>That's the other way around. Freemason's have been historically anti-papist (and anti-royal) hence its popularity among the Founders. Both actually. Both the Papacy has at times outright forbidden membership under penalty of cannon law, or as today, treats it as a sin, placing one ineligible to receive communion so long as membership is maintained. The Masons have at different times stood against the Church. Most recently the Scottish Rite's opposition to the autonomy of parochial schools. So no, no love lost there. Strictly speaking, belief in both institutions is incompatible. As far as Royalty while US lodges of the Masons have been against royalty; The British lodges have been for it. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 06:57 PM (0q2P7) Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Schultz at August 14, 2012 06:57 PM (HtUdo) 397
I never saw that. The demonstration I saw was for driving home the point that it pays to be alert.
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:50 PM (ogdab) Here you go FTL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk59imFr6yI Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 06:57 PM (GULKT) 398
L'Amour was fond of pointing out that almost nobody dies from the first gunshot.
When deliberate suicides are removed from the stats, handguns have a remarkably poor one-shot *stop* rate (kill rates are somewhat immaterial since your opponent could die five days later in the hospital after slashing you to death). Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 06:59 PM (ogdab) 399
Oh fuck a duck I'm going to just stick with watching Ancient Aliens all the time. That makes way more sense than reality right now.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 14, 2012 06:59 PM (Gk3SS) 400
399 Oh fuck a duck I'm going to just stick with watching Ancient Aliens all the time. That makes way more sense than reality right now. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 14, 2012 06:59 PM (Gk3SS) That hair defies the laws of gravity. You know what I'm talking about. Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 07:00 PM (GULKT) 401
Yeah a lot of the British royals in the past have been Masons. From Hell postulates that it was largely a freemason conspiracy protecting the Prince that resulted in the Ripper killings. Good read, and seems really plausible as well.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 07:01 PM (r4wIV) 402
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 06:57 PM (0q2P7)
Wow, the moron horde comes through with the knowledge on every topic. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 07:01 PM (fJody) 403
oh, and from Yahoo/ABC News:
Chelsea Clinton may follow in her parents' footsteps after all. After years of shooting down rumors that she may run for office, the 32-year-old Clinton left the door open to having another Clinton on the electoral ballots. "Before my mom's campaign I would have said no," Clinton said in an interview published in the latest issue of Vogue magazine. "And now I don't know. . ." "If there were to be a point where it was something I felt called to do and I didn't think there was someone who was sufficiently committed to building a healthier, more just, more equitable, more productive world?" Clinton continued. "Then that would be a question I'd have to ask and answer." )read the last paragraph and ask yourself what kind of crap she's talking about. Sounds like her mother's BS.) Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 07:01 PM (bJm7W) Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 14, 2012 07:02 PM (kdS6q) 405
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Oh fuck a duck I'm going to just stick with watching Ancient Aliens all the time. That makes way more sense than reality right now. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 14, 2012 06:59 PM (Gk3SS) You know you think that guy with the awesome hair is hot. Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at August 14, 2012 07:02 PM (/YJYi) 406
speaking of tv better than reality, the new season of Grimm started up.
Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 07:02 PM (fJody) 407
I just hope the Debate Commission reminds the moderators to ask, repeatedly if necessary, whether all Teabaggers are racist or just most of them. Also, please ask if the Republican candidate support all of the Bush presidency . If they take issue with any part of the Bush presidency, please make sure they are specific as to which parts they don't like.
Posted by: President for Life Obama at August 14, 2012 07:03 PM (ytax8) 408
Damn it buzzion you beat me to it.
Posted by: Adam at August 14, 2012 07:03 PM (/YJYi) 409
Here you go FTL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk59imFr6yI
Thank you, sir! As mall-ninja whack as that video looks, it's an excellent illustration of the Tueller Drill. Tueller was the demo that I saw. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 07:03 PM (ogdab) 410
That hair defies the laws of gravity. You know what I'm talking about.
That hair pretty much proves alien tech. I mean what else can it be? Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 14, 2012 07:03 PM (Gk3SS) 411
Like others have pointed out, I'd really like it if RR simply ignored the questions posed to them, and started talking and asking pointed questions at the opposition.
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 14, 2012 07:04 PM (MrM2k) 412
FTL, I have never understood cop tactics of hanging about with pistol drawn well after initial contact - that shotgun or rifle in the car should be out.
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 07:04 PM (duqON) 413
building a healthier, more just, more equitable, more productive world?" Clinton continued. "Then that would be a question I'd have to ask and answer."
)read the last paragraph and ask yourself what kind of crap she's talking about. Sounds like her mother's BS.) Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 07:01 PM (bJm7W) And this pampered little bastard knows about a productive world how? What did she ever do but get by on mommy's and daddy's name and dime? A Just world? If there was any justice your dad would have been in jail or thrown out of office. Must I go on? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 07:04 PM (05RcU) 414
so maybe 3 percent of the population is homosexual and maybe 15 percent are out of work. The moderators need to ask about both, because 3 times 15 is 45 percent and that makes it important.
Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 07:05 PM (bJm7W) 415
411 HJ,
Yup....they'd melt down and start screaming Paul Ryan could explain to Joe Biden with a dry erase board how freedom works. Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:06 PM (LRFds) 416
414 so maybe 3 percent of the population is homosexual and maybe 15 percent are out of work. The moderators need to ask about both, because 3 times 15 is 45 percent and that makes it important. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 07:05 PM (bJm7W) Yeah what do you have to say about that Math Witch? You can't argue with the math. Answer the question! Posted by: Veep Debate Moderator at August 14, 2012 07:06 PM (GULKT) 417
"If there were to be a point where it was something I felt called to do
and I didn't think there was someone who was sufficiently committed..." that's the money line to me, like she's expecting to take her mother's place as most caring and committed person in the world. Airhead. Posted by: mallfly at August 14, 2012 07:07 PM (bJm7W) 418
Wow, the moron horde comes through with the knowledge on every topic.
Distributed Horde knowledge is a powerful thing. You know you think that guy with the awesome hair is hot. Posted by: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos at August 14, 2012 07:02 PM (/YJYi) The power of The Hair does compel. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 14, 2012 07:07 PM (Gk3SS) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:07 PM (LRFds) 420
That hair pretty much proves alien tech. I mean what else can it be?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 14, 2012 07:03 PM (Gk3SS I think his skintone does too. Of course that puts Crist and Boehner as aliens too. Posted by: Veep Debate Moderator at August 14, 2012 07:08 PM (GULKT) 421
The Knights of Columbus are a bunch of teddy bears, they are everyone's dad.
They usually have a nice hall that they rent out for baptisms and birthdays and such. They compete with the local fire dept for business in the rental of the hall and are usually at a disadvantage cause they don't have taxpayer funds to constantly renovate their space but they do alright. And they do great things for the parish and the diocese. Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 07:08 PM (oZfic) 422
"read the last paragraph and ask yourself what kind of crap she's talking about."
It means 'yes' but she's trying to sound thoughtful and like it would be only if she really HAD to. "What did she ever do but get by on mommy's and daddy's name and dime?" She was an awkward Howdy Doody lookalike on her TV show, so she's done something. But then, she only got the job because of her mom and dad so... Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 14, 2012 07:08 PM (r4wIV) 423
bad liberal sock Bad!
Posted by: buzzion at August 14, 2012 07:09 PM (GULKT) 424
Yeah a lot of the British royals in the past have been Masons. From
Hell postulates that it was largely a freemason conspiracy protecting the Prince that resulted in the Ripper killings. Good read, and seems really plausible as well. It was Mary Pearcey. Posted by: It could happen at August 14, 2012 07:09 PM (HtUdo) 425
she may be Fido II Clintonleone Family's revenge....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:07 PM (LRFds) Did she inherit her mother's backside? Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 07:10 PM (05RcU) 426
One more reason why the RNC should be up in arms about the moderation lineup.
These assholes got the letter from the dhimmicrats and said, why are you telling us this? We were already going to do that anyway. Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at August 14, 2012 07:10 PM (6IReR) 427
Did she inherit her mother's backside?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 14, 2012 07:10 PM (05RcU) and her frontside. Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at August 14, 2012 07:10 PM (6IReR) Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 07:10 PM (oZfic) 429
No Barack! That's not dinner! That's my daughter!
Posted by: Hillary at August 14, 2012 07:11 PM (GULKT) 430
The Republicans are idiots for accepting lib moderators.
Posted by: Meremortal, now freed from facebutt at August 14, 2012 07:12 PM (1Y+hH) Posted by: WesternCon at August 14, 2012 07:12 PM (fM/kk) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:12 PM (LRFds) 433
FTL, I have never understood cop tactics of hanging about with pistol drawn well after initial contact - that shotgun or rifle in the car should be out.
It's a policy thing, and as I understand it, that pendulum spends no time at all in the Goldilocks zone. A dude at the gym (NoVa) was DC Metro police and a Navy reservist master at arms. He was involved in an incident that made him apply for a SWAT billet. According to him, policy was driven by the DC council, and the only two modes they understood was holstered handguns and full rock-and-roll. I'm glad to be living on the other side of that river. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 07:12 PM (ogdab) 434
Knife vs Gun.
Drank with an old TX sheriff and he said they were more afraid of knives on a traffic stop. They had a test for the new guys. To see if they would get knifed. all did. First, you can not see the knife till it is too late, second the guy can pull one faster that you can get your pistol out of the hostler. He said the closest he came to getting killed. He was behind a car taking a tag number, guy gets out of the car and pulls a knife, before he could get his pistol out the guy cut him. True. Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at August 14, 2012 07:13 PM (3ZjAP) 435
From Hell postulates that it was largely a freemason conspiracy protecting
the Prince that resulted in the Ripper killings What am I, chopped liver? Posted by: Murder by Decree at August 14, 2012 07:13 PM (dAoHD) 436
What about pointed sticks?
Posted by: Eric Idle at August 14, 2012 07:13 PM (nZvGM) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:13 PM (LRFds) 438
elizabethe, the new episode of Grimm last night was pretty good.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 14, 2012 07:14 PM (61onk) Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:14 PM (LRFds) 440
394 Romeo13, how do think you would fair vs. an Asp?
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 06:57 PM (duqON) Well.... seeing as how my prefered style is sword and DAGGER? /smile... If I was dumb enough to let someone with the Asp inside... the Dagger goes to work.... And as someone who works with 45 inch blades a couple times a week, you disengage, and use your feet to control the Measure (distance) of the fight... But then... an Asp is much easier to carry... and conceal... so its all situational... and I'd still use a gun first.... (.45 For Teh WIN!) Posted by: Romeo13 at August 14, 2012 07:14 PM (lZBBB) Posted by: sTevo at August 14, 2012 07:15 PM (VMcEw) Posted by: Dr Fish at August 14, 2012 07:16 PM (hvwLi) 443
The Knights of Columbus are a bunch of teddy bears, they are everyone's dad.
Clarification: I raised their name without meaning to imply any of the baggage [I have no idea whether any of it is justified, so I assume not] associated with "secret societies." I know that KoC is not a secret society. When I said they reminded me of the Masons, I meant only that they do the networking and good works things. I've been invited to join (as has probably everyone else in the parish). I'm not devout enough. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 07:17 PM (ogdab) 444
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What about pointed sticks? Posted by: Eric Idle at August 14, 2012 07:13 PM (nZvGM) SHUT UP! Posted by: Unclefacts, now with even more summoning power. at August 14, 2012 07:18 PM (6IReR) 445
421, my koc buys lots of ultrasound machines, so the kiddies can hear the heatbeat early.
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 07:19 PM (v9wwx) 446
Not this time...
it'll work for us Bob Schieffer KNOWS he is caught... Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:13 PM (LRFds) ::::::;;;;;Sven, I'll only buy that if they have the balls to reject the premise of gotchaquestions, as Newt did. I don't think they will do that, certainly not Romney's style. Ryan is very congenial-natured too. Posted by: Meremortal, freed from facebutt at August 14, 2012 07:19 PM (1Y+hH) 447
elizabethe, the new episode of Grimm last night was pretty good.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 14, 2012 07:14 PM (61onk I agree. Not enough Munroe. but I liked it otherwise. I had a few shaky moments last season when I thought they were going to start going all blatantly liberal talking point, but they walked it back. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 07:19 PM (fJody) 448
my koc buys lots of ultrasound machines, so the kiddies can hear the heatbeat early.
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 07:19 PM (v9wwx) they do that in my inlaws parish as well. Posted by: elizabethe at August 14, 2012 07:20 PM (fJody) 449
Remember seeing some demos back in the day between PKA bouts.
How would a ninja handle 4 thugs in an alley. Ninja in one corner of the ring, thugs start walking towards him from opposite corner. Ninja reaches in his little bag, pulls out a semi-auto and drops 'em all. Crowd loved it as did sensei and I. Posted by: teej at August 14, 2012 07:20 PM (EYfcP) 450
FTL, too devout to drink?
Posted by: Jean at August 14, 2012 07:22 PM (WnnBz) 451
I didn't see all the eps last year, so I must have missed that. Guess I'm glad I did. I'm hoping we'll see more Monroe once Nick's mom stops trying to kill him.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 14, 2012 07:25 PM (61onk) 452
446 Mere,
so was Reagan BOOM! It's time for moderates to man up and for harder Cons to run through walls for 'em Posted by: sven10077 at August 14, 2012 07:25 PM (LRFds) 453
Boom bitches, Obama's got our endorsement now. This shit is ovah.
Posted by: DJ's for Obama at August 14, 2012 07:29 PM (/YJYi) 454
Ithought the Catholics problem with the Masons is that the Masons believe in one world government.The idea that man is perfectable on earth.
Posted by: steevy at August 14, 2012 07:29 PM (6o4Fb) 455
@ Nam Grunt...Thank You for your service sir! USAF Vet.
Posted by: My Ass Burns...stick it out the window and cool it off at August 14, 2012 07:31 PM (t2z5E) 456
Unreal. While the democrat left is busy whitewashing history and facts like Obama's political mentor Durbin voted for the Erskin-Bowles in commission (almost certainly at Obama's urging), the republicans should be winning. I've been really depressed the last few weeks about the state of affairs. The only thing that has brought a smile to my face was the undenied fact that Harry Reid is a pederast. It'll be less funny in November if we can't put this one away.
Posted by: Schnack at August 14, 2012 07:31 PM (sl7j5) 457
@440 - Romeo, what you call the measure we called the gap.
Break your opponents timing and close the gap. Bait your opponent into throwing something being ready with a counter. Many different ways to handle it. Posted by: teej at August 14, 2012 07:34 PM (4+PCd) 458
FTL, too devout to drink?
On that axis, I'm too devout for moderation. Seriously, though, I had a bit of a problem with a priest during the '04 Kerry campaign. The very Sunday after they started airing Michael J. Fox's "elephant's vibrator" ads to assail GWB's ESC funding ban, the resident marxist/liberation theology priest decided to praise Fox in his homily for Fox's courage in facing his Parkinson's. The pastor gave me the "you can't be more catholic than the Pope" line when I asked him why he put up with that kind of shit. I switched to secular mode. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 14, 2012 07:37 PM (ogdab) 459
knife/gun
Stab in the throat or slash the gunhand forearm, you'll be a'ight for the kill stroke. Sweet, Elizabethan Fencer! Posted by: BarryS at August 14, 2012 07:40 PM (RrFr3) 460
I bet they don't ask why all those bills are held up in the Senate.
Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at August 14, 2012 07:45 PM (nonzP) 461
>>>Ithought the Catholics problem with the Masons is that the Masons
believe in one world government.The idea that man is perfectable on earth. No not exactly. The Chruch has heartburn with the Masons because their doctrine expresses their members are given some special insight into God, mankind's relationship with him, and a higher vision of morality from that...AND that special insight is a secret, only available to Masons, selected and approved. Furthermore all non-Masons are considered outsiders for not having this knowledge. This goes squarely against the belief of the Catholic Church that. 1. The way of God is NOT hidden, and is available to all. 2. To the extent that God needed an institution on Earth to represent him, that institution is the Catholic Church. 3. All members of the Church are brothers and sisters in Christ. There are no "outsiders" to the way of God within that Holy Communion. We are all called to Christ's table. Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 14, 2012 07:45 PM (0q2P7) 462
After todays race baiting by Bite-Me and his gaffe of asking Virginians to cross over and help carry NC I bet they wheel Bite-Me out strapped in a wheel chair and ball gagged for the Ryan debates,
Presstitute Moderator: "ah, good evening ladies and gents, tonight Bite-Me has a bad case of laryngitis so TOTUS will be assisting slow, er sick, er Joe!" Now lets get started the first question is for Valerie, er Joe Bite ME Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at August 14, 2012 07:49 PM (nonzP) 463
addendum to the beer buying story. According to the Gateway Pundit, the prez bought beer for everyone but the RomneyRyan supporter...
ooooo harsh... Honestly why am I htinking romney would have bought waaaay more than ten beers and he wouldn't have cared who you supported, same with Paul Ryan.. But then again .. Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 07:51 PM (oZfic) 464
Ryan is from WI he would a bought a keg!
Cheap sake Obama shut down the outside beer tent getting his peeps screeened in the guys tent costing the beer tent guy 25,000. Posted by: ConcealedKerry or SubMitt at August 14, 2012 07:58 PM (nonzP) 465
I've seen more cock than a rooster farmer!
Posted by: kevim duramt fam at August 14, 2012 08:00 PM (GULKT) 466
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Bob Schieffer: Mr. Ryan, do you support the Obama Doctrine? Paul Ryan: What the fuck is the Obama Doc- Bob Schieffer: It's the practice of not harvesting minority babies for the purpose of being shipped to Israel, where they will be rendered into matzoh for the Jew-controlled international banking system. ***BZZZZT*** Bob Schieffer: I'm sorry, Congressman Ryan, your time is up. I'll just put you down for a "No." Vice President Biden, same question...Oh, I'm sorry, sir. You may finish your paste before answering and we'll just add time to the end of your answer. No, it's okay - take your time and chew thoroughly. That's what Gam-Gam says, sir. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 14, 2012 05:13 PM (JPrdt) EOJ, there is no reason to drag Gam-Gam into this. Posted by: MrCaniac at August 14, 2012 08:06 PM (1grxW) 467
I remember hearing that a lot of the founders were masons. So I'm thinking if they believed in a one world government and the perfection of man on eaerth then they wouldn't have so carefully crafted the Constitution to protect us from our own stupidity and to prevent us from being taken over by our own stupidity.
Maybe one of you historical scholars and this site has many can educate me on this, I realize my public education was geared more to passing those APs and Regent's exams than to actually making sure we got all the concepts. Posted by: kevin durant fan at August 14, 2012 09:02 PM (oZfic) 468
Just got a chance to check out this thread and for those asking @JustGrunt is my twitter handle. It used to be JustAGrunt but I changed email accounts and Twitter didn't take kindly to that so I had to change the screen name. Anyway anybody foolish enough to want to actually follow me here is the url. https://twitter.com/JustGrunt
Work has been crazy stupid in the last couple of months which is also my way of explaining why you haven't seen me over at Jammie Wearing Fool in awhile. Would love to talk about it but let's just say I r-e-a-l-l-y hate Obamacare. Thanks for the H/T Posted by: Just A Grunt at August 14, 2012 09:03 PM (+KDIM) 469
that's the money line to me, like she's expecting to take her mother's place as most caring and committed person in the world.
Webb Hubbell would be so proud. Posted by: toby928© at August 14, 2012 09:56 PM (QupBk) Processing 0.08, elapsed 0.0839 seconds. |
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