Former Clinton Chief of Staff & Democratic Senate Candidate, and Obama's Handpicked Leader on Deficit Reduction Commission, Erskine Bowles on Paul Ryan and His Budget

From September 2011. I see this in an ad.

Our ad.

And is that "MorganR" who I think it is...? Super-Researcher who used to post on Verum Serum?

If so, he seems to have dug up another clip which will influence an election (Cavuto just showed this).

Corrected: I initially called Bowles a "Clinton adviser." He was in fact Clinton's Chief of Staff. A bit more than an "adviser." Thanks to @drewmtips for that.

He also reminded me that this is Obama's handpicked leader for the deficit reduction commission, called Bowles-Simpson, for Erskine Bowles (D) and Alan Simpson (R).


Posted by: Ace at 04:39 PM



Comments

1 First?

Posted by: Adam at August 13, 2012 04:40 PM (/YJYi)

2 NOT LAST!!

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 13, 2012 04:41 PM (73P68)

3 What's with DC wonks and their fucked up names?

Erskin?

Reince 'And Repeat' Preibus?


Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 13, 2012 04:41 PM (Q/1Jp)

4 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 04:41 PM (8y9MW)

5 RACIST!!

Posted by: The MSM, fearless seekers for truth at August 13, 2012 04:42 PM (RD7QR)

6 Preibus was head of Wisconsin GOP prior to promotion to lead national GOP.

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 13, 2012 04:42 PM (73P68)

7 Now I've read Paul Ryan's budget. It is very interesting. It makes some good points.

*draws more attention to Ryan in the public eye*

That being said, he's a FUCKING FASCIST

Posted by: Barack Obama Democratic Fake-Out Strategy at August 13, 2012 04:42 PM (60GaT)

8 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2012 04:43 PM (6o4Fb)

9 I inherited a lovely set of erskine bowls from my Great Aunt Mildred...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 13, 2012 04:43 PM (wtvvX)

10 Yay! Seriously though, it's nice to see that there is still one semi intelligent democrat left somewhere in the country.

Posted by: Adam at August 13, 2012 04:43 PM (/YJYi)

11 i just heard a few screams

ouch.

Posted by: willow at August 13, 2012 04:43 PM (TomZ9)

12 Now THAT is some oven-fresh content!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (wtvvX)

13 I think that, all in all, I'm more jazzed about this election than I was about 2008.

Palin was, by herself, more exciting than Ryan (to me, comparing my opinion of her then to my opinion of him now), but Mitt is so much better than McCain was that the ticket as a whole just seems so much stronger than the one 4 years ago.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (8y9MW)

14 Bowles wasn't simply "a Clinton adviser" he was Clinton's Chief of Staff.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (WNzUA)

15 How do we ever lose to these yahoos.

Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (evdj2)

16 erskine will find a goats head under his blanket tonight?

Posted by: willow at August 13, 2012 04:45 PM (TomZ9)

17 @13:

No.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 13, 2012 04:45 PM (wtvvX)

18 @13

Yes you're wrong. Mittens Mittens Mittens.

Posted by: Concern Troll at August 13, 2012 04:46 PM (/YJYi)

19 @18 - Man I'm lucky I had my phone on mute.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 04:47 PM (8y9MW)

20 another arrow in the quiver....

I'm telling you I think Clinton will put the shiv in and give the Clinton wing permission to cross over and we will have a grown up talk in 2014-2020....

The "middle" is a lot closer to us than Bark and vanta Claus

Posted by: sven10077 at August 13, 2012 04:47 PM (LRFds)

21 16
erskine will find a goats head under his blanket tonight?

Posted by: willow

No, just a wax figurine of a goat's head. This is the Obama administration - they don't do hands-on.

Posted by: Dianna at August 13, 2012 04:48 PM (mKMj1)

22 Ad: In 2009, President Obama appointed Erskine Bowles, a Democrat, to serve on his commission to study ways to reduce the country's crushing debt. Mr. Bowles studied Paul Ryan's budget. Here's what he had to say about it:

[play clip]

Sensible. Straight-forward. Honest. Why won't Obama listen to the man he appointed?

Posted by: angler at August 13, 2012 04:48 PM (SwjAj)

23 "Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like to introduce you to my chief of staff...
Mr. Appleputty Joaquin Smith!"

Posted by: Pres. Mitt Romney 1/21/2013 at August 13, 2012 04:48 PM (Q/1Jp)

24 15 How do we ever lose to these yahoos.
Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (evdj2)
Public education. The human condition. Tribalism. I CAN HAZ GOV'T CHEEZ?

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 13, 2012 04:48 PM (73P68)

25 13 AG,

Nope I get it now Mitt was a genius and he would have fared better than Queeg in 08 maybe even won.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 13, 2012 04:48 PM (LRFds)

26 13. You're not wrong!

what recent ticket was better? I can't think of one. (I'm possibly far too anti-GHWBush, however, I mean he's a nice enough statist, but still)

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 13, 2012 04:48 PM (J6kXj)

27 This will have been taken out of context and we're all racist bigots for watching it edited like it obviously is.

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2012 04:49 PM (UK9cE)

28 How do we ever lose to these yahoos

the MSM gives the Ds AT LEAST 15 percentage points. constant propaganda and dis- and misinformation

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 13, 2012 04:49 PM (J6kXj)

29 If Sarah Palin is done running for office she should release some topless pics.Just sayin'.

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2012 04:50 PM (6o4Fb)

30 Obama used to fire up erskine bowles regularly throughout high school and college, until he graduated to cocaine.

Posted by: Dave S at August 13, 2012 04:50 PM (L2I78)

31 Palin was, by herself, more exciting than Ryan (to me, comparing my
opinion of her then to my opinion of him now), but Mitt is so much
better than McCain was that the ticket as a whole just seems so much
stronger than the one 4 years ago.


Were you perhaps distracted by Palin's rather nifty boobehs?

Sorry to say it -- and I'd be dragged across burning coals at Tepid Air, where the Palin-worshipers gather to share their butthurtedness -- but The Divine Sarah was far less qualified to be VP than Ryan. He's got the chops for repairing what might be salvaged from our economy after four years of Bark Obama, and he can take it to the enemy. She, on the other hand, hasn't shown the necessary skills to get out there and hit a few over the fence.

And, so far as I know, Ryan hasn't made a public appearance in hooker shoes, tight Capri pants and a logo t-shirt.

Mitt is far better than McCain, and Ryan is worlds better than Palin. Both of 'em make the America-hating comedy team of Choomer-in-Chief and Wetbrain Biden look like the pathetic losers they are.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 13, 2012 04:50 PM (wZI4b)

32 It's almost as if SCOMAF governed with no concern whatsoever for reelection. Like, I'm gonna say this in 2008 and do whatever is easiest to check off on this paper my aides prepared for me. Remember that? How he runs his administration, he checks the boxes?

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 13, 2012 04:51 PM (QxSug)

33
If Sarah Palin is done running for office she should release some topless pics.Just sayin'.

Sing it!

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 13, 2012 04:51 PM (mFxQX)

34 >>>Yes you're wrong. Mittens Mittens Mittens.

Oh you've got to do the full double think. Call him squishy, then call his extreme positions offputting; Say his campaign has not hit hard enough, then dig him for negative ads; Lastly call social issues the most important part of the campaign, while lambasting him for not having a salable economic plan to the millions of unemployed Americans.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 04:51 PM (0q2P7)

35 the MSM gives the Ds AT LEAST 15 percentage points. constant propaganda and dis- and misinformation
Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 13, 2012 04:49 PM (J6kXj)


A monumental torrent of lies, like a tidal wave of sewage.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 13, 2012 04:52 PM (bxiXv)

36
@13 no deffinately not, Mitt is not McCain and this is not 08, there is no longer anything historic about Obama

The media is completely be-clowning themselves in their efforts, I hear this from people that don't even normally pay attention to politics.

This thing could spin out of control for the democrats very fast, I personally think it has already started.

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 13, 2012 04:52 PM (R/8dI)

37 What's an "erskine"?

Posted by: Cricket at August 13, 2012 04:53 PM (DrC22)

38
Bowles wasn't simply "a Clinton adviser" he was Clinton's Chief of Staff.

Don't you mean'staph'.

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at August 13, 2012 04:53 PM (0cvFd)

39 Clinton had a few CoS that are still relevant today. Panetta at Defense (and the one politician responsible for killing bin Laden), Bowles moving forward a deficit plan . . .

Ironically, the least relevant Clinton Admin vet still working today is Hillary!

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM (B/yDO)

40 Were you perhaps distracted by Palin's rather nifty boobehs?

Perhaps.

Though, again, I'm comparing perception of her then to perception of him now, to be as fair to both as possible. Her now, I don't put anywhere near the same league as him now. Not even a question.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM (8y9MW)

41 Clinton's speech at the convention is going to be interesting.

Does he give Obama big wet kisses, or concentrate on down ticket problems to save the party?

Posted by: Jean at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM (liPvR)

42 With 23 million Americans looking for work, let us talk about ghey marriage and porn.

Posted by: Rick Santorum at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM (/YJYi)

43 16
erskine will find a goats head under his blanket tonight?

Posted by: willow at August 13, 2012 04:45 PM (TomZ9)

lol, I guess Barky can't afford horse heads, either that or the Mooch like to chew on them.

Posted by: Killerdog at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM (CZrbJ)

44 Extremism in kicking Obama's ass is no vice.

Posted by: Paul Goldryan at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM (60GaT)

45 15 How do we ever lose to these yahoos.
Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (evdj2)


The Dems will indeed backstab each other, but I don't see them constantly and bitterly re-fighting old primaries and bitching each other out about old elections.

That's part of it.

It frees up a lot of energy that they don't give a shit about who was right, only who won.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 13, 2012 04:55 PM (bxiXv)

46 31
Disagree that Ryan is world's better. Unless being a legislator in DC give you the inside skinny on how the beaurocracy/MSM/Dems will work to scuttle any efforts at honest reform. No private sector experience. No executive experience. Palin had private sector and executive experience and, if properly reported on, an excellent record of reforming corrupt gov't.

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at August 13, 2012 04:55 PM (73P68)

47
I like Ryan's budget plan, too.

Two skeleton bone thumbs up!

Posted by: Caspar Weinberger at August 13, 2012 04:55 PM (9Q7Nu)

48 Sarah Palin has boobs?

Posted by: Cricket at August 13, 2012 04:55 PM (DrC22)

49 In defense of myself, I don't come across like an incoherent moron and then bitch that it was the media's fault.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at August 13, 2012 04:56 PM (60GaT)

50 Not to refight the Palin Wars, but keep in mind that the lady was very knowledgeable on Alaskan issues and a damn good governor.

McCain gave her all of 3 days to learn about non-Alaska issues.

That said, this ticket is way better because Mitt is miles better than McCain. And truthfully, Mitt today is miles better than Mitt from even a few weeks ago

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 04:56 PM (B/yDO)

51 What's an "erskine"?

Posted by: Cricket at August 13, 2012 04:53 PM (DrC22)


I know of former Dallas Star Jon Erskine, now currently of the Washington Capitals, but other than that, I got nuthin.

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2012 04:56 PM (UK9cE)

52 >>>but The Divine Sarah was far less qualified to be VP than Ryan.

Remember that back when Palin was picked, we weren't in a depression. That took another month and a half to hit. McCain was struggling with keeping any sort of distinction between him and O and any sort of enthusiasm from the base. I personally don't think McCain could have done better with his veep pick as far as resuscitating his campaign, but, he couldn't keep any kind of momentum because his campaigning sucked that much.

Yes Ryan is far more qualified. That doesn't make Sarah a bad pick last time.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 04:56 PM (0q2P7)

53 13 I think that, all in all, I'm more jazzed about this election than I was about 2008.Palin was, by herself, more exciting than Ryan (to me, comparing my opinion of her then to my opinion of him now), but Mitt is so much better than McCain was that the ticket as a whole just seems so much stronger than the one 4 years ago.Am I wrong?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 04:44 PM (8y9MW)


I dont recall Ace posting a topless pic of Palin in the sidebar, so there's that.

Posted by: Havedash at August 13, 2012 04:56 PM (F0WNa)

54
How do we ever lose to these yahoos.

I love Yoo-Hoo!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 13, 2012 04:57 PM (0cvFd)

55 48
Big Ones.

Posted by: Todd Palin at August 13, 2012 04:57 PM (rmSzF)

56 A monumental torrent of lies, like a tidal wave of sewage.


And always the "seeing the story through the eyes of the dems" crypto slant on every story ever, as Ace has written about.

And every shitty comedian and actor. And teacher and professor.


Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2012 04:57 PM (KXm42)

57 Sarah Palin has boobs?

Posted by: Cricket at August 13, 2012 04:55 PM (DrC22)


Yes. They're REAL and they're SPECTACULAR!!

Posted by: Sarah P. at August 13, 2012 04:58 PM (UK9cE)

58
you guys remember after the 2000 election, Bush and Gore each had former SoS's represent them?

Bush had the very capable Baker.

And Gore had, who was it, Weinberger? Les Aspen?

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 04:59 PM (9Q7Nu)

59
I'm happy with Ryan in the VP slot, but if I was running for the senate or congress, Palin is the person I would want endorsing and making appearances for me.

My biggest problem with what happened to Palin was the unfairness and backstabbing that came from inside the campaign and elitists on our own side. How many good people will never consider running for any office after the way she was treated?

Posted by: jwest at August 13, 2012 04:59 PM (ZDsRL)

60 What's an "erskine"?

Erskine is a town in the council area of Renfrewshire, and historic county of the same name, in the west central Lowlands of Scotland.

You may continue.

Posted by: Soledad O'Lyin's Earpiece at August 13, 2012 04:59 PM (ZKzrr)

61 I lived in Philly and read only the DN/Inky, City Paper and the other free paper I can't remember the name of . . . it was like . . . yes I was a liberal! I read only those and didn't really care about politics at all.

I was working off of amazingly bad premises to form my liberal opinions. Then I started to notice that many of the local media people I actually met were . . . insane assholes. opened my eyes a little bit!

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 13, 2012 04:59 PM (J6kXj)

62 What's an "erskine"?

Fake hoo-hah hair.

Posted by: Joe Biden, finger on the pulse at August 13, 2012 05:00 PM (eXUci)

63 The Five today - no Gutfeld but extra legs

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 05:00 PM (B/yDO)

64 >>Disagree that Ryan is world's better.

You couldn't be more wrong. Ryan's command (not grasp) of the central issues facing this country is so superior to Palin's as to be laughable. Even hard-core libs have to concede he knows more about the debt, deficit, budget and entitlements than anyone and everyone in the room.

Private sector experience can be overrated. It really isn't necessary if the person already has an appreciation for, and is a proponent of, the free market system.

On matters of opinion, it's not unusual to expect differences. But Ryan is objectively far superior to Palin in just about every way.

Posted by: angler at August 13, 2012 05:00 PM (SwjAj)

65 DangerGirl: Flyer sent.

If you're looking for something not-the-normal, the Sweet-Potato Casserole Cheesecake is superb.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:00 PM (8y9MW)

66 omg . . . Merkin Bowles!

now that's pretty funny!

Posted by: BlackOrchidMissesDagny at August 13, 2012 05:01 PM (J6kXj)

67 But is Paul Ryan one of The Folks?

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at August 13, 2012 05:01 PM (60GaT)

68 I know one Erskine but he goes by "Bubba". Cool guy.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 13, 2012 05:01 PM (R/Tto)

69 I didn't even know an Earskin had balls......

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:02 PM (OlN4e)

70 My biggest problem with what happened to Palin was the unfairness and backstabbing that came from inside the campaign and elitists on our own side. How many good people will never consider running for any office after the way she was treated?
Posted by: jwest at August 13, 2012 04:59 PM (ZDsRL)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
T H I S

Posted by: Havedash at August 13, 2012 05:02 PM (F0WNa)

71 It's quite obvious that Erskine Bowles is RACIST!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 13, 2012 05:02 PM (1Jaio)

72 @63
I may not have the nicest legs, but I've got the magic snatch.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 13, 2012 05:02 PM (/YJYi)

73 Just hit Romney with another meeelion dollar donation.

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2012 05:02 PM (KXm42)

74 psssh, Bowles is a Lieberman-esque bowel movement on the Democratic Party. Kill All DINOs.

Posted by: Daily Kostra Nostra at August 13, 2012 05:03 PM (60GaT)

75 Could we please leave Sarah Palin the fuck alone?

She was never a problem, she revitalized the moribund McCain campaign and
has been a great advocate for conservative candidates as witnessed by being sought for endorsements and being asked to speak at rallies for candidates.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 13, 2012 05:03 PM (06lNq)

76 Another Clinton confidante was positive about Ryan also, saying she would be perfectly willing to blow him if he ever gets to the Oval Office.

Posted by: Cicero at August 13, 2012 05:03 PM (QKKT0)

77 I got a rash on my erskine once.

Once.

Posted by: nickless at August 13, 2012 05:03 PM (MMC8r)

78 Conservative Republican Rick Santorum will campaign for his former presidential rival Mitt Romney in the key swing state of Ohio this week, officials with the Romney campaign said on Monday.

Santorum, an ex-U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, emerged as Romney's main challenger during their party's state-by-state nominating contest earlier this year, portraying the former Massachusetts governor as not being a true conservative.

He has only campaigned once on behalf of Romney since bowing out of the race and endorsing the White House hopeful.

Romney officials, speaking to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said Santorum would make the appearance in Ohio on Wednesday.

Conservatives have rallied to Romney's cause after he announced on Saturday that he had chosen Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan, a darling of conservative Republicans, to be his vice presidential running mate for the Nov. 6 election.

Santorum, who praised Romney's choice of Ryan, says he plans to appear more frequently on Romney's behalf and hopes to boost enthusiasm for the Republican ticket among voters in northern industrial states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana who were attracted to Santorum's social conservatism and focus on revitalizing the manufacturing sector.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 13, 2012 05:03 PM (e8kgV)

79 Could we please leave Sarah Palin the fuck alone?

Her announcement that she wouldn't be speaking at the convention brought a whole new dumpload for her today, if that makes any fucking sense. Plenty of Pavlovian response on this side of the aisle, too.

Posted by: nickless at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (MMC8r)

80 Not to refight the Palin Wars,

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 04:56 PM (B/yDO)


Too late, it's pointless infighting and insult each other time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (bxiXv)

81 My biggest problem with what happened to Palin was the unfairness and
backstabbing that came from inside the campaign and elitists on our own
side. How many good people will never consider running for any office
after the way she was treated?


I mostly agree with you. Actually, re: the stuff from inside the campaign, I completely agree with you. That said, I think a lot of the Palin apologists did her no favors because they tended (some of them still tend to) try to call anyone who has any reservations about her, or her stated positions on something an "elitist" and claim they just don't like women (or other ad hominem attacks).

I remember when the C4P folks were still deluding themselves that she would run this year, and there were over here every day complaining that the HQ wasn't sufficiently conservative.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (8y9MW)

82 i think it's not contradictory to acknowledge that a) a decent amount of the response to Palin was hysterical and b) she really didn't do all that well in the spotlight (for reasons not related to media bias, although yes Charlie Gibson's "Bush Doctrine" condescension was dumb,) good VP debate aside.

Posted by: JDP at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (60GaT)

83 I got a rash on my erskine once.

Once.


Posted by: nickless at August 13, 2012 05:03 PM (MMC8r)


My dad hung me on a hook once......

Once.

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (UK9cE)

84 Also, the famous Battle of Wyenshire occurred there in 1236 AD after a very drunken and very confused Earl of Fristworth ordered his farmhands to attack his own flock of sheep after mistaking them for Viking invaders.

Posted by: Lord Fauntleroy Fudgehammer, 17th Earl of Roundbottom, British Historical Society at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (3MliW)

85 >>Could we please leave Sarah Palin the fuck alone?

Pointing out that Ryan is a better candidate than she was doesn't mean she was a terrible candidate, and it certainly isn't an attack on her.

Posted by: angler at August 13, 2012 05:05 PM (SwjAj)

86 Personally, Ryan is an infinitely more exciting pick than Palin. Though he doesn't have executive experience, he makes up for it through his long experience in the House and his economic experience. He's a policy wonk and knows what needs to be done to start fixing the nation's financial crisis. I don't dislike Palin, but she's nothing compared to Ryan when it comes to policy.

Posted by: Little Lebowski Urban Acheiver at August 13, 2012 05:06 PM (8LCi0)

87 72@63
I may not have the nicest legs, but I've got the magic snatch.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 13, 2012 05:02 PM (/YJYi) <<<<<Actually, Ms. Fluck, as a leg man, I would have to day I've seen better legs on a Daddy Longlegs spider. More of 'em too.

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:06 PM (OlN4e)

88 Sarah who?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 13, 2012 05:06 PM (0cvFd)

89 How to we lose to these yahoos?

Probably because of the herd mentality and lying pollsters.

Ever wonder why the trolls come in here with-

'polling results"?

Most of the time Democrats win by depressing Republican turn out.

Just how bad is the polling?

Remember the Republican primary for the Missouri senate that was less than two weeks ago?

Is the press reporting how off that polling was--or did it get buried?

Let's just say this--

PPP (Democrat junk polling) did most of the polling--

and they only had to poll Republicans and they were off-

Big Time.

****

2012 Missouri Senate Republican Primary Polls


PPP (D) 8/4 - 8/5 590 RV

Brunner 35% +5%

Mason-Dixon 7/23 - 7/25 400 LV

Brunner 33% +6%

PPP (D) 5/24 - 5/27 430 RV

Steelman 28% +3%

PPP (D) 1/27 - 1/29 574 RV

Steelman 28% +5%

PPP (D) 9/9 - 9/12/11

Steelman 40% or +11%

PPP (D) 4/28 - 5/1/11 400 LV

Steelman 27% +4%

**************


Actual Results-

Akin -36% + 6%

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:07 PM (r2PLg)

90 Allen, they all look great. Not a big fan of sweet potato casserole, but I do love caramel. The bananas foster is very tempting as well. Thanks so much for sending the flyer.

Posted by: DangerGirl at August 13, 2012 05:07 PM (GrtrJ)

91 Let's face facts people, Mr. Ryan does not have any private-sector experience. Now as we all know private-sector work is evil, but you would think the Romney campaign should at least be consistent in their evilness.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 13, 2012 05:08 PM (60GaT)

92
Sarah Palin has much, much better legs than Ruan. Much better tits too. And a nicer ass, and a prettier face.

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:08 PM (OlN4e)

93 37
What's an "erskine"?

Posted by: Cricket at August 13, 2012 04:53 PM

----------------------

It's like a merkin for covering Willy.

Posted by: irright at August 13, 2012 05:08 PM (pMGkg)

94 come on, it's always a good time to refight the palin wars. Maybe we can debate COD too? I just hope that in 2012, when the october surprise comes, Mitts doesn't suspend campaign in a panic.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 13, 2012 05:09 PM (QxSug)

95 RINOS!

Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 05:09 PM (evdj2)

96 my superduper reality TV show about my journey as a single mom is really humanizing the Republican Party. yeppers

Posted by: Bristol Palin at August 13, 2012 05:09 PM (60GaT)

97 Posted this video to my dusty FB account. I got moonbats all up in the place now.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 13, 2012 05:10 PM (4136b)

98
I think a lot of the Palin apologists did her no favors because they tended (some of them still tend to) try to call anyone who has any reservations about her, or her stated positions on something an "elitist" and claim they just don't like women (or other ad hominem attacks).<<>>

And by "some of them", you mean "jwest." And by "tended to" you mean "last Friday."

It's fucking tiresome. To the point where the constant whining about her maltreatment offends me more than the actual offenses against her.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2012 05:10 PM (BushJ)

99
"On matters of opinion, it's not unusual to expect differences. But Ryan is objectively far superior to Palin in just about every way."

Not to get into a whole Palin thing again, but something should be pointed out....

Ryan has mastery of all matters economic on a level that Palin couldn't hope to understand. No question. And that command of all the facts and figures promise to make him a great manager and policy wonk, but that's not what I look for in a president.

The president needs to be an executive - which is far different than a manager. Most great executives provide a vision and the character to shape the policies and tactics used to achieve them. Great executives make shitty managers. Most managers make terrible executives. It is just two separate worlds.

Palin proved she had what it took in executive roles. I'll continue to stick up for her in that respect.

Posted by: jwest at August 13, 2012 05:10 PM (ZDsRL)

100 I just hope that in 2012, when the october surprise comes, Mitts doesn't suspend campaign in a panic.

Yeah. Great way to show you're ready to handle the multiple simultaneous problems that a President will face. Yeesh. Please don't remind me.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:10 PM (8y9MW)

101 Moonbats frighten me.

Posted by: Bruce Wayne at August 13, 2012 05:11 PM (60GaT)

102 Hey, we got a Clintonoid on tape praising Ryan. Why waste time talking about Palin?

Posted by: nickless at August 13, 2012 05:11 PM (MMC8r)

103 As I've been telling people on Twitter...

Sarah Palin NOT speaking at the RNC is a very, very, *good* thing, and this is coming from someone who is an unapologetic Palin supporter. I loves TEH SARAH!!!111oneoneone

But here's the deal, and I think Palin knows this - because she's a lot smarter than I think most people realize: If Palin speaks at the RNC, the media is going to put all the attention on her, and not on Romney / Ryan. Why? Because that's all the media has, since their Obamessiah is such a SCOAMF.

Palin's speech would get played, replayed, and they'd trot out the attacks on her and Todd and Bristol and the whole 2008 witch hunt again.

By NOT appearing at the RNC, Palin is forcing the MSM to beclown themselves looking for dirt on two guys who appear to be squeaky clean - Romney and Paul Ryan the Math Nerd (and this is meant as a compliment).

No, Palin's role should be exactly what she's doing - cheerleading and energizing the base to turnout to elect Mittens and Captain Awesome-At-Math Paul Ryan this November, and to that end, Sarah's doing her part.

Bottom line: Paul Ryan is AWESOME.

Posted by: Naqamel at August 13, 2012 05:11 PM (UMwMT)

104 If you wonder why PPP (Democrat) pollster would wreck their credibility like that--maybe their function for that election was to cause the republican candidate that won to spend their war chest on the primary fight--rather than using it to blow-

Claire McCaskill out of the water.

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:11 PM (r2PLg)

105
just hope that in 2012, when the october surprise comes, Mitts doesn't suspend campaign in a panic.

I would not worry about Mitt. He is no Juan McLame

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 13, 2012 05:12 PM (mFxQX)

106 ace also Alan Simpson endorsed Paul Ryan over the week-end as well. Yeah, I know he's a republican but still, when both guys on Obama's budget committee come out for the other guy's budget....should be a clue!

Posted by: small town girl at August 13, 2012 05:12 PM (TbVED)

107 And by "some of them", you mean "jwest." And by "tended to" you mean "last Friday."

I wasn't going to say that.

Partially because I don't actually want this thread to devolve into a Palin War thread. I was actually pointing out that, at the time, I liked Palin more (in a vacuum) than I do Ryan now (in a vacuum). That can hardly be called a dig against Palin.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:12 PM (8y9MW)

108 it is amusing how fast the left wing pathology is having a meltdown over this Veep pick. Maybe the leftwing pathology just can't handle the idea of GOP vice presidential nominees?

"glorb, he's attractive...feel strange feeling in no-touch zone. must flail helplessly and spew hate!!!!"

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 13, 2012 05:12 PM (QxSug)

109
AHOY!

Posted by: PALINISTO! at August 13, 2012 05:13 PM (0cvFd)

110
Oh, and Empire of Jeff...

Go fuck yourself.

Posted by: jwest at August 13, 2012 05:13 PM (ZDsRL)

111 What I don't understand is that Palin scared the living daylights out of the left, but many on the right bought into their propaganda. They created the narative that anyone who supported Palin was equally as stupid as she was.They saw her as a female Reagan and went into full contact mode to destroy her. To me, this demonstrated her strength and viability. Even now they are still working to destroy her. This proves how much they fear her. She should not be outcast or shunned.

Those who the left truly fear, we should hold in highest regard!

Posted by: Havedash at August 13, 2012 05:14 PM (F0WNa)

112 >>The president needs to be an executive - which is far different than a
manager. Most great executives provide a vision and the character to
shape the policies and tactics used to achieve them. Great executives
make shitty managers. Most managers make terrible executives. It is just
two separate worlds.

You must be thrilled, then, by the fact that you just described Mitt Romney.

And also, Ryan is not running for president. The first time he'll be able to do so (hopefully) is after obtaining executive experience as VP.

Posted by: angler at August 13, 2012 05:14 PM (SwjAj)

113 I'm trying to think of the pop culture or video game reference of a crazed monster or other idiot that these lefty stage crashers are like.

it's in their blood, like how those code pink weirdos crash hearings with their stupid painted sheets.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 13, 2012 05:14 PM (QxSug)

114 It's profitable for that "divide" to be fractioned--for the Democrats.

What do you think PPP(D) was doing polling a-

Republican primary to death?

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:14 PM (r2PLg)

115 I'm thinking Sarah Palin would make a wonderful chief of staff or press secretary. Hmm, definitely top three for press secretary.

Posted by: Fritz at August 13, 2012 05:14 PM (RuVpG)

116 ofgs.

Posted by: willow at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (TomZ9)

117
Go fuck yourself.<<<<<

I get that a lot.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (BushJ)

118 Enough about Erskine. I want to hear from his brother, Foreskin.

Posted by: Soona at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (R+gW6)

119 I personally could never see what women saw in Bill Clinton, but I think Paul Ryan is just yummy.

Posted by: Sharon at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (DtEq4)

120 ofgs.

That's easy for you to say.

Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (evdj2)

121 I'm thinking Sarah Palin would make a wonderful chief of staff or press
secretary. Hmm, definitely top three for press secretary.


Energy Sec.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (8y9MW)

122 On the other hand, this Barack fellow could probably handle my coffee order without screwing it up too much.

Posted by: Erskine Bowels at August 13, 2012 05:16 PM (QKKT0)

123
>>Hmm, definitely top three for press secretary.

Nobody wants to hear her talk that much. Nobody.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2012 05:16 PM (0cvFd)

124 fraction--damn it I meant "factioned" as in--

The Balkans.

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:16 PM (r2PLg)

125 Meh, Palin wars was so last election.

I prefer to rehash the SoCon wars of this last primary.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 13, 2012 05:16 PM (xAtAj)

126 I got a sneaking suspicion about Mr. Ryan. Something about his mannerisms.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at August 13, 2012 05:16 PM (60GaT)

127 On the other hand, this Barack fellow could probably handle my coffee order without screwing it up too much.

He'll call you a racist if you don't want it black.

Posted by: nickless at August 13, 2012 05:17 PM (MMC8r)

128 The Divine Sarah was far less qualified to be VP than Ryan. He's got the chops for repairing what might be salvaged from our economy after four years of Bark Obama, and he can take it to the enemy. She, on the other hand, hasn't shown the necessary skills to get out there and hit a few over the fence.

Yeah, having an approval rating in the mid to high 80th percentile and banking billions for her state during good times just screams incompetence. Oh, and negotiating the AGIA gas lineafter 20 years of stagnation from other govs was pretty lame, too. Odd that she's been out there endorsing and campaigning for all the congress critter races while all those "qualified" people didn't make a peep and may as well have been invisible.

Posted by: RushBabe at August 13, 2012 05:17 PM (tQHzJ)

129 We not only have Clintonoids praising Paul Ryan on tape, we have the Big Dawg himself praising Ryan

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 05:17 PM (B/yDO)

130 >>>Nobody wants to hear her talk that much. Nobody.

Precisely. A big "fuck you" to the MBM.

Posted by: Fritz at August 13, 2012 05:17 PM (RuVpG)

131 >>>the media is going to put all the attention on her

They just can't pass up a taste of sweet sweet Palin hate. You are more likely to see a hardened heroin junky turn down a hit than the media pass up an opportunity to hate on Palin.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 05:17 PM (0q2P7)

132 Love the idea of Sarah Palin as Energy Sec.

Though I'd rather see the Department of Energy just go away.

Posted by: Naqamel at August 13, 2012 05:17 PM (UMwMT)

133 Palin also said everything she needed to say at the 2008 Convention.

The only thing she could do this year is say, "53%, how my ass taste?"

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 05:18 PM (B/yDO)

134
yeah, it's a real mystery on why we lose to them


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:18 PM (9Q7Nu)

135 I for one would love to hear Ms. Palin's voice, screaming my name passionately and repeatedly, whilst digging her nails into my back.......

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:19 PM (OlN4e)

136 "Yeah, having an approval rating in the mid to high 80th percentile and
banking billions for her state during good times just screams
incompetence"

people're talking nationwide dude, c'mon. i think it's pretty clear that Palin boosted the campaign initially and then turned into a drag for people outside the Republican base. of course there probably wasn't much McCain could do about his loss in any circumstance, but still.

Posted by: JDP at August 13, 2012 05:19 PM (60GaT)

137 Moonbats frighten me.
Posted by: Bruce Wayne at August 13, 2012 05:11 PM (60GaT)
--------------------------------------------------
Pussy

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at August 13, 2012 05:19 PM (jucos)

138 Though I'd rather see the Department of Energy just go away.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

But, also, as I have pointed out before: The last time I checked, our tanks and other vehicles ran on diesel fuel. Most of our Navy is nuclear powered now, but I don't think they can fit a reactor into an Abrams, yet.

There are good (if not completely convincing) arguments in favor of the Department of Energy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:20 PM (8y9MW)

139 Back to Mitt, the guy who's actually going to have the executive power.

I've had my doubts about him (and endured the silly outrage of people who gasp that not voting for Romney is a defacto vote for Obama, woe is the Republic).

But, I think he's serious. I think he actually intends to fix what ails us. He grabbed the third rail and is holding on tight. I'm pleasantly surprised, and he's earned my vote.

Posted by: sandy burger at August 13, 2012 05:20 PM (UwqBE)

140 Is there nothing I can steal here?

Posted by: Fareed Zakaria at August 13, 2012 05:20 PM (wAQA5)

141
sewing
bows
catfish canoodlin
Sarah Palin's jugs


oh look, a Pop Tart


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:20 PM (9Q7Nu)

142
"....Ryan is not running for president. The first time he'll be able to do so (hopefully) is after obtaining executive experience as VP."

I like Ryan. I'm glad he's the VP candidate. I'm not saying anything bad about him.

Mitt is an executive. He looks at the big picture, tries to surround himself with smart people and let's them run with the ball. I hope Ryan becomes that type of person, but it just seems right now that his personality is more of the managerial style. Who knows. Only time will tell.

Posted by: jwest at August 13, 2012 05:20 PM (ZDsRL)

143 >>>there probably wasn't much McCain could do about his loss in any circumstance

I'm no expert but he could have tried campaigning. That's what all the smart folks say you should do when you run for office.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 05:21 PM (0q2P7)

144 Erskine: What ends up on the floor after a circumcision.

Posted by: Col. Angus at August 13, 2012 05:21 PM (Kkt/i)

145 134

We aren't the Stupid Party for no reason.

Posted by: Big T Party at August 13, 2012 05:21 PM (rmSzF)

146 Biden: "Show me your budget... "

We've seen your personal budget and you gave about $369 each year to charity over the past few years. That's around 1.5% of your income.

We see what's important to Slow Joe.

Posted by: Dang at August 13, 2012 05:21 PM (Ky1+e)

147 but but but Palin made decisions on matters in which there were pros and cons, if we just focus on the cons to a tough decision, we can make it sound like an overall bad decision.

Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 13, 2012 05:22 PM (QxSug)

148 Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 13, 2012 04:41 PM (Q/1Jp)

Completely agree.

Why can't they have American names?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 13, 2012 05:22 PM (2b4yb)

149 Amazingly delicious clip. I hope it plays so much that 3/4 the country can quote it on election day.

Posted by: SamIam at August 13, 2012 05:22 PM (VDpzM)

150
Johnny Pesky gone.

that hurts

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:23 PM (9Q7Nu)

151 >>>>Most of our Navy is nuclear powered now, but I don't think they can fit a reactor into an Abrams, yet.


Buzzzzz. Most of the Navy is gas turbine powered.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 05:23 PM (0q2P7)

152 1.5% I'm assuming you mean more like .15%?

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 13, 2012 05:23 PM (xAtAj)

153 well i'm not trying to deflect blame. just talking about how it happened up to that point

Posted by: JDP at August 13, 2012 05:23 PM (60GaT)

154 McCain campaigned like he flew jets. He spent more time ejecting then he did in the air. I also head that McCain famously told his fellow aviators that they had nothing to fear from the North Vietnamese SAM missle sites.

Posted by: Havedash at August 13, 2012 05:24 PM (F0WNa)

155 All this talk of Palin reminds me of how much I loathe Juan McAmnesty.

Posted by: Big T Party at August 13, 2012 05:24 PM (rmSzF)

156 The two are not mutually exclusive.

Put her in charge of downsizing the agency, something I believe she'd be OK with.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2012 05:24 PM (d0Tfm)

157 Buzzzzz. Most of the Navy is gas turbine powered.

Well, even more reason to keep the gas flowing, no?

And I thought most of the fleet had converted to nuke. Where did I hear that?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:24 PM (8y9MW)

158
Biden: Show me your bush and I'll know all about your values.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:24 PM (9Q7Nu)

159 "Were you perhaps distracted by Palin's rather nifty boobehs?"

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 13, 2012 04:50 PM (wZI4b)

My God, you really are a pig.......

Her behind is the best part. Not that her rack isn't first class, but she is in her late 40s and still has a lovely, lovely butt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 13, 2012 05:24 PM (2b4yb)

160 But he was our FRIEND!!!

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 13, 2012 05:25 PM (xAtAj)

161 I only have two things left to say about the 2008 campaign.

1) McCain lost by what, 52% to 48%? Sarah Palin on the ticket gave the McCain campaign a 45% boost.

2) It is now August 13th, 2012. John McCain, current status: still alive
The media should be shamed for their incessant "one heartbeat away" horsepuckey every election cycle for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: reason at August 13, 2012 05:25 PM (V40IZ)

162 Its been mentioned above but its worth repeating.

Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 13, 2012 05:25 PM (DGIjM)

163
>>>there probably wasn't much McCain could do about his loss in any circumstance
>><>>>>

Oh, I don't know. He could have tried NOT ENDORSING HIS OPPONENT.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2012 05:25 PM (BushJ)

164 yeah but everyone knows the presidency would've given Old McCain a heartattack.

Posted by: The Media at August 13, 2012 05:25 PM (60GaT)

165 He could have tried NOT ENDORSING HIS OPPONENT.

Also not trying to call a "Time Out" on the campaign.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:25 PM (8y9MW)

166 >>>Well, even more reason to keep the gas flowing, no?
And I thought most of the fleet had converted to nuke. Where did I hear that?

IDK... 1975? Nowadays submarines and aircraft carriers. Everything else is gas turbines.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (0q2P7)

167 Go fuck yourself.<<<<<I get that a lot.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2012 05:15 PM (BushJ)

Heh

Posted by: The Jackhole at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (nTgAI)

168
Buzzzzz. Most of the Navy is gas turbine powered.

And all of the new cruise ships. GT is the way to go

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (mFxQX)

169 Erskine is a game me and the little staffer boys play during sleepovers in the office.

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (xAtAj)

170 all i meant is that The Fundamentals (tm) of 2008 did not favor the GOP. thatisall.

Posted by: JDP at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (60GaT)

171 Look, Palin might not be Reagan reincarnated, but let's be honest--she was hardly the problem with that ticket.

Plus, she's not running for anything this year. She's acting as attack dog/surrogate, which I've said for some time is really her best utilization for the time being.

So quit arguing the counterfactuals, put away the longbows and crossbows, post some Cake Girl--Kate Upton--Christina Hendricks galleries and settle down a'ready!

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (GBXon)

172
more like 53 to 46, and it was pretty much, but just barely, a landslide

ten million votes, red states turned blue

we got smoked

(no racist)

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (9Q7Nu)

173 I fugure if they can fit a nuclear reactor into the Mars Rover, they could fit one into an Abrams.

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:27 PM (OlN4e)

174 142.

It's pretty hard to say that Ryan is just a manager when he has repeatedly been touted as one of the intellectual leaders of the fiscal conservative movement and multiple conservative heads over the weekend have noted that he has a lot of Reagan in him.

While I agree Romney is an executive and a superior one he is also credited as being a fantastic hands on leader. It is possible to be a good manager and a good executive. I see Ryan as a younger Romney who has less private sector executive experience but much better political skills. No reason Ryan can't grow to be a fantastic executive, he certainly has the tools.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2012 05:27 PM (TMB3S)

175 GT is the way to go

Real Question: Why is that? What make GT superior to nuke?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:27 PM (8y9MW)

176 141
sewing
bows
catfish canoodlin
Sarah Palin's jugs


oh look, a Pop Tart


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:20 PM (9Q7Nu)

*******

There's a Pop Tart on this thread?

You missed chocolate cheese cake.

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:27 PM (r2PLg)

177 McCain stopping campaigning to go back to Washington during the crisis would have made some sense, IF HE HAD VOTED AGAINST TARP. As it was, he just voted with his opponent.

Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (evdj2)

178 161
McCain cost us that election. And 2 Supreme Court Justices.
A competent candidate would have won and wed be in much better shape right now.

Posted by: Big T Party at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (rmSzF)

179 You missed chocolate cheese cake.

Dark Chocolate Mint cheesecake.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (8y9MW)

180 So quit arguing the counterfactuals, put away the
longbows and crossbows, post some Cake Girl--Kate Upton--Christina
Hendricks galleries and settle down a'ready!

Posted by: Brother Cavil presents at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (GBXon)

Put away the longbows and crossbows...
bring out the compound bows.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (xAtAj)

181 I fugure if they can fit a nuclear reactor into the Mars Rover, they could fit one into an Abrams.

If the M1A1 could run on 100watts, they could.

Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (evdj2)

182 Erskine is a game me and the little staffer boys play during sleepovers in the office.


Posted by: Harry Reid at August 13, 2012 05:26 PM (xAtAj)


Oh. I thought that was "hide the sausage" and "dingle my berries."

Posted by: Sponge at August 13, 2012 05:29 PM (UK9cE)

183 The Bill Ayers clip linked from that Youtube video can be cut nicely:

Start with Obama's You didn't build that with someone's voice over saying that we shouldn't expect different, my mom always said you can judge a person by the friends they keep. President Obama launched his first political campaign in this man's living-room:

Bill Ayers: "I get up every morning and think, today I'm going to end capitalism. Today, I'm going to make a revolution. I go to bed disappointed, but I'm back again tomorrow..."

http://tinyurl.com/d7jft5h

Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 13, 2012 05:29 PM (Wa+Fw)

184 1.5% I'm assuming you mean more like .15%?


Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM!

DOH! A typo, you are correct. Romney gave 15%.

Posted by: Dang at August 13, 2012 05:29 PM (Ky1+e)

185 >>I'm not saying anything bad about him.

Of course. Except when you're pointing out that he lacks the qualifications you feel are essential for the job.

Posted by: angler at August 13, 2012 05:30 PM (SwjAj)

186
...and power plants on ships

and peach shakes

keep it up, furballs

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:30 PM (9Q7Nu)

187 Shooting at Texas AM leave two humans and the shooter dead. Link in the sig.

Posted by: Truman North at August 13, 2012 05:30 PM (I2LwF)

188 I fugure if they can fit a nuclear reactor into the Mars Rover

The Rover has an RTG, which isn't a reactor.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 13, 2012 05:30 PM (eXUci)

189 If the M1A1 could run on 100watts, they could.Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (evdj2) <<<<<It could. Might hurt the top speed and acceleration some......

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:30 PM (OlN4e)

190 179 You missed chocolate cheese cake.

Dark Chocolate Mint cheesecake.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (8y9MW)

********\

Okay..that just really kills me.

I thought the Chick-Fil-A cravings would be--


gone.

And now ^this.

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:31 PM (r2PLg)

191
in b4 the "gun dicks" get whipped out

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:31 PM (9Q7Nu)

192 Although this place has cured my need for--

pudding.

Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:31 PM (r2PLg)

193 Posted by: tasker at August 13, 2012 05:31 PM (r2PLg)

You in D/FW? You buy, we'll deliver.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:32 PM (8y9MW)

194
it occurred to me that we don't give Ace enough shit for that one

heh, gun dicks

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 13, 2012 05:32 PM (9Q7Nu)

195 Brother Cavil:
>> Palin might not be Reagan reincarnated, but let's be honest--she was hardly the problem with that ticket.

McCain could have picked Paul Ryan, and he would have lost just the same. The problem was where it always is: at the top of the ticket.

And frankly, Palinistas ought to be half glad they lost. Really, what could she have accomplished with McCain as her boss? The VP has almost no real power. Her name would have been attached to his mistakes.

Posted by: sandy burger at August 13, 2012 05:32 PM (UwqBE)

196
@189

You couldn't traverse the turret with 100W.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 13, 2012 05:32 PM (BushJ)

197 Good lord, this needs to go viral for cryin' out loud.

Posted by: Pipe Holder at August 13, 2012 05:33 PM (VTeUD)

198 Start with Obama's You didn't build that with someone's voice over saying that we shouldn't expect different, my mom always said you can judge a person by the friends they keep. President Obama launched his first political campaign in this man's living-room:Bill Ayers: "I get up every morning and think, today I'm going to end capitalism. Today, I'm going to make a revolution. I go to bed disappointed, but I'm back again tomorrow..."http://tinyurl.com/d7jft5h
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 13, 2012 05:29 PM (Wa+Fw)


Shhhhh! You can't mention that kind of stuff. It's just a distraction from the real issues...just like those "transcripters" and "birthers" and racist haters. Stick to the issues <sarc off>

Posted by: Havedash at August 13, 2012 05:33 PM (F0WNa)

199 The hand picked debt commission that Obama completely ignored.

Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2012 05:33 PM (6o4Fb)

200
you can't even bake a mini cake with 100watts!

Posted by: Your little sister's Easy Bake Oven at August 13, 2012 05:34 PM (9Q7Nu)

201 The proper terminology is "stroking our gun dicks", and he can never get enough shit over that pusstastic statement.

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:34 PM (OlN4e)

202
>>Good lord, this needs to go viral

Too late.

Posted by: Bill CLinton's Staff at August 13, 2012 05:34 PM (p8aDp)

203 >>>Why is that? What make GT superior to nuke?

Two things.

1. Money. Nukes cost a bunch more over the life of the powerplant.
2. Responsiveness, GTs can generate full power both ahead and to the rear over 4 times as fast as a Nuke.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Regular With Full Stomping Power! at August 13, 2012 05:34 PM (0q2P7)

204 McCain cost us that election. And 2 Supreme Court Justices. A competent candidate would have won and wed be in much better shape right now.

Agreed. However, winning in '08 would've been an uphill slog anyway, IMO. After eight years of Bush-bashing (and him not ever fighting back, ever), the MFM helped a lot. Perhaps they reached the pinnacle of their success four years ago since they're sure as hell being pilloried by the New Media these days.

On the bright side, I guess that's what it took to wake up the unthinking masses to the dangers of progressivism, so there's that. I still think this is going to be a blowout for the GOP, and we'll take the Senate, too. I've talked to plenty of my Dim buds who say they won't vote for teh SCOAMF again.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (d0Tfm)

205 Posted by: toby928 at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (evdj2)

And maybe you need to delete that comment because the fucking retards at DoD will run with that idea and build a "green" main battle tank that burns unicorn farts, has a top speed of 12mph, and fires .22 Winchester magnum rimfire rounds.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (2b4yb)

206 Bullshit EoJ. Give mea long enough lever and I will move the world.

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (OlN4e)

207 Does anyone else find it rather strange that we have had all these shootings lately? Aurora, the temple and now Texas AM? Has there ever been another time where we have had a succession of shootings like this? My memory isn't what it was, so lay some knowledge on me if I am wrong. But this is really starting to stink.

Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (UljOc)

208 yeah, I just had a bowles movement...or somthin

Posted by: Chippa at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (2cfUo)

209
: Your little sister's Easy Bake Oven at August 13, 2012 05:34 PM (9Q7Nu)

That thing wasn't for baking, it was to get her in the proper position.

Posted by: Donny Osmond at August 13, 2012 05:36 PM (p8aDp)

210 Posted by: steevy at August 13, 2012 05:33 PM (6o4Fb)
___

In the vid Bowles pretty much calls preazy's budget a big doubledecker shit sandwich.

Posted by: kallisto at August 13, 2012 05:37 PM (jm/9g)

211 .....and fires .22 Winchester magnum rimfire rounds.

------

Hey boss.... we can save 3 cents a round if we switch to .22 shorts.

Posted by: Obamas Military Budget Hacks at August 13, 2012 05:37 PM (C8hzL)

212 "I fugure if they can fit a nuclear reactor into the Mars Rover, they could fit one into an Abrams."

a) That Mars rover needs a lot less juice to move than an Abrams. It's not armored, and it's not manned.
b) If something funny happens to the Mars rover, it's pretty far away. Few enviroweenies will make huge stinky protests over the rover having a mishap and irradiating some rocks on another planet. If something happens to an Abrams (and let's face it, we tend to put them into somewhat dangerous environments), and you wind up with a nuclear material leak, there will be Problems to Deal With. If something happens to an Abrams tank, and the enemy gets their hands on the wreckage, you've just handed them the makings of (at minimum) a dirty bomb.

Unfortunately, sometimes you have to consider who you are inviting to dinner before you chose the good China over the stack of paper plates.

Posted by: reason at August 13, 2012 05:37 PM (V40IZ)

213 Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:34 PM (OlN4e)

Yeah...that kind of proves Ace's origins....Northeastern liberal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 13, 2012 05:37 PM (2b4yb)

214 Dark Chocolate Mint cheesecake.

Hush. Yo. Mouf.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2012 05:38 PM (d0Tfm)

215 lol, I guess Barky can't afford horse heads, either that or the Mooch like to chew on them.


Posted by: Killerdog at August 13, 2012 04:54 PM


I just spit my cigarette out. lol

Posted by: Berserker at August 13, 2012 05:38 PM (FMbng)

216 Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (OlN4e)

Very, very slowly!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (2b4yb)

217 a massive Bowles movement

Posted by: Chippa at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (2cfUo)

218 chocolate mind cheesecake?
Stop this post i want a bite!

Posted by: willow at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (TomZ9)

219 BackwardsBoy:
>> On the bright side, I guess that's what it took to wake up the
unthinking masses to the dangers of progressivism, so there's that.


It's also what it took to wake up unthinking right-wingers to the dangers of GOP corruption. The Republican party was being led by the likes of Trent Lott. They deserved to lose.

Posted by: sandy burger at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (UwqBE)

220
Posted by: reason at August 13, 2012 05:37 PM (V40IZ) <<<<<




Hell, dude. I said it could be done. Didn't say anything about it being practical.

Posted by: maddogg at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (OlN4e)

221 Heh. Soona, there was a senile ranger at the last GC I worked at who was constantly telling golfers that he was Elvis's older brother named Enis. Elvis the Pelvis...

Posted by: ErikW at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (3MliW)

222 #103 Agree completely. She is robbing the media of their hoped-for diversion. Also agree she isn't as dumb as so many think.

Another thing gives Ryan an advantage is that he's a good-looking guy. Sadly, speaking from listening to members of my own sex, there are quite a few women who don't like her, mostly borne out of jealousy. A great many of these are older women.

Romney already has a lead amongst white men, so Ryan's trick (besides drawing in the Tea Party) will be to attract the independent women and the older dem and GOP women. Sadly, this is modern politics. TV image is way important.

And this is a definite advantage over Obama. No amount of fancy camera angles are going to hide those jug ears, not to mention the mole on his face and his frequent tendency to purple lips. Obama only looked sexy next to McCain. Put him up against Mitt and there is no contest. And Ryan against Biden is even more of a winner for us.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 13, 2012 05:39 PM (GoIUi)

223 mind, mint.
freudiAN

Posted by: willow at August 13, 2012 05:40 PM (TomZ9)

224 207 Does anyone else find it rather strange that we have had all these shootings lately? Aurora, the temple and now Texas AM? Has there ever been another time where we have had a succession of shootings like this? My memory isn't what it was, so lay some knowledge on me if I am wrong. But this is really starting to stink.
Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 13, 2012 05:35 PM (UljOc)

There is an interesting video I saw after the Batman shooting. Its about the media and the path they always follow, spending way too much time sensationalizing the killer, not on the victims, play by play of the violence, computer animated videos of the crime, ridiculous analysts...ect .. it spurs on more shootings.. happens every time.
Not just here.. all over the world. and every time.. there are warped killers who see it and think it will give them final glory too.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 13, 2012 05:41 PM (DGIjM)

225 Posted by: reason at August 13, 2012 05:37 PM (V40IZ)

Is it possible that the comment was made with tongue tucked firmly in cheek?

And besides, the acceleration from the turbine is hard to beat with an electric motor.

By the way, the Abrams puts on about 1500HP, which is something like 1100KW.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 13, 2012 05:42 PM (2b4yb)

226 Does anyone else find it rather strange that we have had all these shootings lately?

My theory: It's a Reichstag Fire so Obama can cram gun control down our throats.

Posted by: Naqamel at August 13, 2012 05:42 PM (UMwMT)

227 we have an esrkine bowles postage machine at work

Posted by: Chippa at August 13, 2012 05:43 PM (2cfUo)

228 It's also what it took to wake up unthinking right-wingers to the dangers of GOP corruption. The Republican party was being led by the likes of Trent Lott. They deserved to lose.

Good point. SarahCuda enabled true fiscal conservatives to finally come out of the closet, so to speak. And make no mistake, 90% of her problems were created by MFM spin. She had (and still has) plenty of policy chops, but you'd never know it by listening to the presstitutes ignore her record as guv.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 13, 2012 05:44 PM (d0Tfm)

229 Believe me, I am not a conspiracy theorist. But this is just odd. The temple shooting and the Texas shooting.. both gunmen were killed or offed themselves correct?

Posted by: jewells45 is scarred for life because of ace at August 13, 2012 05:45 PM (UljOc)

230
All I can say about that video is: heh.

Tear that video into 10 ads.

This one is a gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Ryan dances the jig of murder at August 13, 2012 05:46 PM (HOOye)

231 Ryan worked the grill at McDonald's while in high school.

That's more real life experience that Barack Obama.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 13, 2012 05:46 PM (e8kgV)

232 Bush set up the whole big meeting photo op as a request from the McCain campaign.

And McCain didn't say a single damn thing the entire meeting

Posted by: The Q at August 13, 2012 05:46 PM (B/yDO)

233 "Hell, dude. I said it could be done. Didn't say anything about it being practical."

I'm sorry. I was just enjoying the thought-experiment. I didn't mean to break your idea...

No hard feelings?

Posted by: reason at August 13, 2012 05:47 PM (CGjum)

234 My theory: It's a Reichstag Fire so Obama can cram gun control down our throats.

Prior to fast and furious, I would have dismissed such notions out of hand. Obama has shaken faith in govt so badly, even non-conspiracy theorists at least have to allow for the possibility now, no matter how remote.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 13, 2012 05:49 PM (3KEs2)

235 150. Johnny Pesky gone.



that hurts


??? ;-(

Posted by: barack obumbles fauxcahontas at August 13, 2012 05:49 PM (p18em)

236 Sock fail

Posted by: beancounter at August 13, 2012 05:49 PM (p18em)

237 New RR ad:

In 1969, when American wanted to put an American on the Moon, it turned to Math Nerds to achieve that goal.

In 2012, when American wanted to put an American in the White House, it turned to Math Nerds.

Tag line:
Math Nerds. Totally uncool until you actually need something done.

alternate tag line:
Math nerds. When you're counting on winning, it helps to have somebody who can count.

Posted by: jwpaine at August 13, 2012 06:03 PM (FUozQ)

238 2. Responsiveness, GTs can generate full power both ahead and to the rear over 4 times as fast as a Nuke.


Posted by: Mike the moose, etc.

According to my submarine machinist mate source, that's just engineering.

Though I think you're right, what do I know?

Posted by: Dianna at August 13, 2012 06:07 PM (mKMj1)

239
Speaking of math nerds (and I am 1) I just took a look at the graphic representations of EU and US debt and the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars.
It's one thing to comtemplate the meaning of the numbers but quite another when you see them represented as stacks of pallets of 100 dollar billsin square footprints climbing into the sky.
A very disturbing visual which should be required viewing by all tax payers.

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at August 13, 2012 06:12 PM (cCxiu)

240 #229 - Jewells, I think it's reporting, not the shootings themselves. We've seen a rise in mass murders world-wide - think of the 8 murdered in China by one man with a knife - but the intensity of the reporting has more to do with it than incidences. The AM shooter hardly counts, if you think about it. 2 victims, and he's dead either at his own hand or the police. It was loud and scary, but there are whole weeks like that in Oakland and Richmond, and nobody bothers to report them.

Posted by: Dianna at August 13, 2012 06:14 PM (mKMj1)

241 In Scottish, the name Erskine means- from the top of the cliff ascending.
The name Erskine orginated as an Scottish name. The name Erskine is most often used as a boy name or male name.


Scottish Name Meaning - from the top of the cliff ascending
Origin - Scotland

http://www.meaning-of-names.com/scottish-names/erskine.asp

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 13, 2012 07:16 PM (kXoT0)

242 Dark Chocolate Mint cheesecake.


Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 13, 2012 05:28 PM (8y9MW)

Stop teasing the 'Ettes with dessert.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 13, 2012 07:20 PM (kXoT0)

243 #229 and #240 -- There have always been mass murders. In the Old West, if a guy got pissed off at the town, he shot up the town. In Olde England, a guy wanted your cattle, town, or daughter, he hacked his way to it with a broadsword. It is just now we have the press to bring them to us instantly live and in bleeding color.

Posted by: Will Be Taking Applications and Assimilating The Love-slaves at August 13, 2012 07:22 PM (kXoT0)

244
I like the cut of this young fella's jib. He has a way about him, an insousance, to use a French term, that must come from somewhere in his loins.

He is a studly young guy, full of vim and vigor, reminds me of myself remembering what myself used to look like back in the days of buggys and horsedung all over the streets.

I repdict he''l make a fine vice President.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Alan Simpson at August 13, 2012 07:53 PM (ApGOC)

245
The over/under on number of days it takes Bowles to go to and from the Obama Woodshed/Doghouse/Choomwagon, takea beating by Valerie Jarrett thenretract his earlier more generous and honest appraisal of Ryanwith a vitriolic statement 180 degrees opposite to this one is 5 days and I am taking the Under.

Posted by: MikeD at August 13, 2012 08:45 PM (p8QOg)






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