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Media Actually Bothered By Obama's Malignant Ad
Drudge's wordplay, of course. Good word choice.
Michelle Malkin wants an investigation into illegal coordination between Obama and PrioritiesUSA. So why this vicious ad, coordinated at the highest levels by Obama? Well, remember that Larry Sabato analysis I'm so fond of.Larry Sabato looked at previous polls and had several conclusions: 1, there are not very many swing voters at all. 2, they're unenthusiastic about voting (which either causes, or is caused by, the fact that they're uncommitted and don't love either candidate). And 3, they don't much like this Barack Obama character:So Obama's gambit here may wind up helping him. Soptic's wife was white and female (presumably as to the former, required by the then-existing laws for the latter). The sob story is deliberately chosen to turn white female undecided voters away from the election -- they may despise Obama, especially after this ad, but they'll still remember the lie, won't they? Obama's strategy is to simply disgust all voters except for his hardest-core partisans and depress the vote of all groups except those reliable Obamabots. Everything he does must be seen in this light -- yes, he's turning people off, but he's turning people off from politics as a general matter, turning them off of voting, period. Which is his only hope.Swing voters had much more negative opinions of President Obama’s job performance than other voters. In fact, their opinions were almost as negative as those of Romney supporters. Only 11% of swing voters approved of Obama’s job performance compared with 6% of Romney voters. In contrast, 92% of Obama voters approved of the president’s job performance.[Quoting Sabato, if that's not clear.] Sabato's conclusion was that a higher-turnout election actually favored Romney, because if these unenthusiastic Obama critics actually make it to the polls, they'll vote against Obama (or against him about 70% to 30%). Interestingly, Obama's down-and-dirty negative campaign dovetails nicely with his best strategy, which is to depress the vote among all but his most reliable partisans. Making the election about nothing except negative attacks should do that for him. Even though Romney has an edge with these True Undecideds, they're small in number. Sabato, IIRC, pegged them at no more than 10%, and yesterday's CBS/NYT poll had it that only four percent were undecided. (Four percent?!) Still, a 70/30 split with 5% of the population means a net gain of 2% in the overall vote (3.5% for Romney, 1.5% for Obama)-- assuming we can get these people to the polls, which, at the current moment, is in doubt. Sabato noted of the True Undecideds......compared with voters supporting a candidate, swing voters were disproportionately white and female.I don't know how "disproportionately" white and female they were, though.
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Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:06 PM (9Q7Nu)
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So how many Delphi retirees is Barry killing now?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:07 PM (UOM48)
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I think you gotta boxing problem...html wise.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:07 PM (r2PLg)
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Which is his only hope.
I prefer SMOD.
I'd forgotten that the prior Soptic ad was the one that referred to Romney as a vampire. Sooooo, vampires cause cancer now? Is that a side effect of the sparkles?
I prefer SMOD.
I'd forgotten that the prior Soptic ad was the one that referred to Romney as a vampire. Sooooo, vampires cause cancer now? Is that a side effect of the sparkles?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:07 PM (VtjlW)
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Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (8y9MW)
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Inside baseball stuff and Sabato is an idiot. Obama did not win white female voters in 2008. He will do even worse in 2012.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)
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if the election is a referendum on energy costs and jobs, you can bet your ass that voters would be enthusiastic
if the election is a referendum on energy costs and jobs, you can bet your ass that voters would be enthusiastic
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (9Q7Nu)
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The fact that Mika was not-amused caused a couple of pigs to fly past my breakfast room window.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (UOM48)
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Grayson County, Texas officials will honor Randy Travis next week by naming a stretch of ditch after him.
Posted by: Nukie at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (AxE3L)
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You know, when this clown is evicted from the White House I might
actually have a nice glass of scotch and smoke a celebratory cigar.
I really, really hate this guy.
actually have a nice glass of scotch and smoke a celebratory cigar.
I really, really hate this guy.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 09, 2012 01:09 PM (06lNq)
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obama is a nasty prick and liar and we should call him on it over and over and over and over again.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (05RcU)
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Grayson County, Texas officials will honor Randy Travis next week by naming a stretch of ditch after him.
There's a ditch on a Hawaiian island named after Barry and the Choom van.
Grayson County, Texas officials will honor Randy Travis next week by naming a stretch of ditch after him.
There's a ditch on a Hawaiian island named after Barry and the Choom van.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (UOM48)
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This ad is ludicrous. I don't think Romney needs to spend any time on it. He needs to flesh out how his tax plan is going to help middle class Americans.
Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (5H6zj)
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Does that mean watching Twilight will give me teh cancer?
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (pVvkk)
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Everything he does must be seen in this light -- yes, he's turning people off, but he's turning people off from politics as a general matter, turning them off of voting, period.
I wish I didn't believe this, but I do.
And we need some way to fix it. I like the campaign slogan "Getting America Working Again."
But we also need a vicious attack machine to absolutely destroy these dishonest and (yes) malignant ads so that while independents may remember the lie, they'll also remember that it was a lie.
I wish I didn't believe this, but I do.
And we need some way to fix it. I like the campaign slogan "Getting America Working Again."
But we also need a vicious attack machine to absolutely destroy these dishonest and (yes) malignant ads so that while independents may remember the lie, they'll also remember that it was a lie.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (8y9MW)
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Under Governor Romneys plan, you would have access to double-posted videos.
Posted by: Andrea Saul at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (PReJ3)
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I think people are starting to see how Chicago-thug this guy really is. BTW, any "low attention" voters who might not hear the particulars of the multiple ways this ad is a stellar clusterfark, sure aren't going to understand any nuances about superPAC vs Obama Campaign.
He owns this ad and there ain't nothing he can do to make the stink of it go away on him. And yes, people remember this kind of low blow.
He owns this ad and there ain't nothing he can do to make the stink of it go away on him. And yes, people remember this kind of low blow.
Posted by: Eviva at August 09, 2012 01:10 PM (whMsz)
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Just when I thought politicians couldn't become any more cynical. "Hey, let's not try to get voters to pull the lever for us, let's turn them off of voting completely so that they'll stay home."
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (JxMoP)
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This is a terrible strategy. Conservatives are so fired up, even with a mediocre candidate. 57 state landslide.
Posted by: sb at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (80w08)
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Holy crap:
RT @DRUDGE_REPORT: New Dem ad depicts Allen West punching white women, stealing money... http://t.co/KBKmJQI6
RT @DRUDGE_REPORT: New Dem ad depicts Allen West punching white women, stealing money... http://t.co/KBKmJQI6
Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (Jv47P)
Posted by: Brown Line at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (VrNoa)
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You know, when this clown is evicted from the White House I might
actually have a nice glass of scotch and smoke a celebratory cigar.
I kind of look forward to footage of the Marines prying Mooch's fingernails off the door frame, a la Garfield-going-to-the-vet.
actually have a nice glass of scotch and smoke a celebratory cigar.
I kind of look forward to footage of the Marines prying Mooch's fingernails off the door frame, a la Garfield-going-to-the-vet.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (/kI1Q)
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All these videos and none of Cake Girl!
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (YdQQY)
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Every week when I think I can't despise The One and his supporters any more, they still manage to surprise me... it's only August. Who knows what crap they'll throw out between now and November.
Yuck.
Yuck.
Posted by: GuyfromNH at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (kbOju)
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With all due respect to the female moronettes here, if females would just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men, this race would be over
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (05RcU)
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I've said this in other threads: Obama does not care about a political consensu, his poll numbers, or the amount of people he pisses off with his policies. He is ruling like a tyrant now and he plans on doing it in his second term. Hell I don't even think he will bother with a budget for the next 4 years if possible. He will govern my executive fiat.
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (fqVpd)
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6 Inside baseball stuff and Sabato is an idiot. Obama did not win white female voters in 2008. He will do even worse in 2012.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)
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Boom! That is surprisingly correct.
I have to keep looking that exit polling up however because that isn't the--
conventional wisdom.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)
**********
Boom! That is surprisingly correct.
I have to keep looking that exit polling up however because that isn't the--
conventional wisdom.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (r2PLg)
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You know, when this clown is evicted from the White House I might
actually have a nice glass of scotch and smoke a celebratory cigar.
I've got a Siglo IV and a bottle of Maker's 46 waiting.
actually have a nice glass of scotch and smoke a celebratory cigar.
I've got a Siglo IV and a bottle of Maker's 46 waiting.
Posted by: EC at August 09, 2012 01:13 PM (GQ8sn)
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The Obama campaign needs to get away from these ridiculous murder accusations and refocus on the ridiculous felony tax evasion accusations.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (+lsX1)
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Can we have an election night Moron Meetup?
JEF loses, we have a drink in his dishonor.
JEF wins, we all drink kool-aid.
JEF loses, we have a drink in his dishonor.
JEF wins, we all drink kool-aid.
Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (xAtAj)
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I miss cake girl.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (9TTOe)
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if females would just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men
You might want to read Vic's comment at #6.
You might want to read Vic's comment at #6.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (/kI1Q)
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Great - a president who will poison the well in order to win.
Oh, he'll do much more than that to win. They're just cranking up the felony grade tactic right now...
Oh, he'll do much more than that to win. They're just cranking up the felony grade tactic right now...
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (3Thg4)
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2008 Exit polls for white women voters - Obama 46%, McCain 53%
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (05RcU)
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With all due respect to the female moronettes here, if females would
just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men, this race
would be over
But.....Obama is so dreamy!!!! (typical female lib)
With all due respect to the female moronettes here, if females would
just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men, this race
would be over
But.....Obama is so dreamy!!!! (typical female lib)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (UOM48)
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With all due respect to the female moronettes here, if females would
just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men, this race
would be over
We need to have a Fifty Shades of Romney ad.
Just try to imagine it...
just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men, this race
would be over
We need to have a Fifty Shades of Romney ad.
Just try to imagine it...
Posted by: EC at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (GQ8sn)
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If this is correct, then in my view it will be crucial for Mitt's late-game message to be one of Reaganesque hopefulness. He needs to offer people a better option. It's not like we lack easy, resonating ideas. Make promises of sunshine and happiness, as did the jugeared fool, and have some actual workable concepts to share. It may be sufficient to maintain a desire to vote among the mushy middle.
I think there are people looking for some life line.
I think there are people looking for some life line.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (xUM1Q)
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"With all due respect to the female moronettes here,
if females would just get their heads out of their asses and vote like
men, this race would be over
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (05RcU)"
But...but...we NEED government to take other people's stuff on our behalf or where would we be???? You actually expect me to WORK to get the things I want??
if females would just get their heads out of their asses and vote like
men, this race would be over
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (05RcU)"
But...but...we NEED government to take other people's stuff on our behalf or where would we be???? You actually expect me to WORK to get the things I want??
Posted by: the Julia with no eyes, no face and feet forever akimbo at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (whMsz)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (9Q7Nu)
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Yup that is why our pacs have to point out Barry's hypocrisy on the war and gitmo in San Fran with over the top heat of our own......
Blow for blow
Blow for blow
Posted by: sven10077 at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (EXgH8)
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if females would just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men
You might want to read Vic's comment at #6.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (/kI1Q)
So the black women vote is screwing with results? OK I'll buy that. Never mind
You might want to read Vic's comment at #6.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:14 PM (/kI1Q)
So the black women vote is screwing with results? OK I'll buy that. Never mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (05RcU)
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Rush is doing this bit right now.
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone evangelist at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (YbQvR)
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36 TOO FAR? NEW ATTACK AD TARGETING ALLEN WEST DEPICTS HIM BEATING WOMEN
At Drudge
A new low?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (05RcU)
If it was wasserman shultz I'll send him some money.
At Drudge
A new low?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:15 PM (05RcU)
If it was wasserman shultz I'll send him some money.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (9TTOe)
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Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2012 01:11 PM (5H6zj)
Wow. Democrats portraying a black man as boxing, beating up old ladies and stealing from white people?
And THIS is why they call everything racist. So everyone can be desensitized to it when they bring out the real McCoy.
Wow. Democrats portraying a black man as boxing, beating up old ladies and stealing from white people?
And THIS is why they call everything racist. So everyone can be desensitized to it when they bring out the real McCoy.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (Jv47P)
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Here's the exit polling for 2008 where Sabato can refresh his memory:
White women:
53% McCain
46% Obama
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1
White women:
53% McCain
46% Obama
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (r2PLg)
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2008 Exit polls for white women voters - Obama 46%, McCain 53%
I expect that black women voted for SCOAMF in roughly the same percentages as black men did, but can we look that up just to make sure?
I expect that black women voted for SCOAMF in roughly the same percentages as black men did, but can we look that up just to make sure?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (/kI1Q)
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@26
Do you realize the goofball in chief thinks the election is going to turn on the amount of free rubbers he can shovel at women?
Yes he thinks women are that stupid.
I've destroyed the economy and killed thousands of jobs, here's some rubbers
don't use them all in the same place!
Are women really that stupid?
Do you realize the goofball in chief thinks the election is going to turn on the amount of free rubbers he can shovel at women?
Yes he thinks women are that stupid.
I've destroyed the economy and killed thousands of jobs, here's some rubbers
don't use them all in the same place!
Are women really that stupid?
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (06lNq)
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Rush is doing this bit right now.
Has anyone ever seen Rush and Ace at the same place at the same time?
Has anyone ever seen Rush and Ace at the same place at the same time?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:17 PM (8y9MW)
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I almost feel sorry for the DNC. They resemble nothing so much as a troupe of shit flinging monkeys.
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:17 PM (OlN4e)
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The heroine of the left is Sandra Fluke, slut.
The heroine of the right is Rachel, Chick-Fil-A sweetheart.
The heroine of the right is Rachel, Chick-Fil-A sweetheart.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (WGmy2)
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So the black women vote is screwing with results? OK I'll buy that. Never mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (05RcU)
It wasn't just black women, it was ALL minority women voting for him in mass numbers. A lot of those are going to stay at home this time because they are disillusioned.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (05RcU)
It wasn't just black women, it was ALL minority women voting for him in mass numbers. A lot of those are going to stay at home this time because they are disillusioned.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (YdQQY)
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You might want to read Vic's comment at #6.
But is TheOne™ trying to appeal to that demographic, or is he trying to get them to stay home?
But is TheOne™ trying to appeal to that demographic, or is he trying to get them to stay home?
Posted by: Henry Hill and Tommy DeSimone at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (kqqGm)
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26 With all due respect to the female moronettes here, if females would just get their heads out of their asses and vote like men, this race would be overPosted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:12 PM (05RcU)
Yeah. Of course, this is yet more proof (as if it were needed) that enfranchising the half of the population that most often makes decisions based on feelings and a need to feel taken-care-of was a BAD, STUPID, nation-killing move.
As long as women can vote, the welfare state can never be effectively turned back.
Yeah. Of course, this is yet more proof (as if it were needed) that enfranchising the half of the population that most often makes decisions based on feelings and a need to feel taken-care-of was a BAD, STUPID, nation-killing move.
As long as women can vote, the welfare state can never be effectively turned back.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (xUM1Q)
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So the black women vote is screwing with results? OK I'll buy that. Never mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (05RcU)
Or latino men.
64% Obama
33% McCain
Also white men did not significantly outperform white women when voting for McCain because I doubt 57% is outside the MOE difference.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (05RcU)
Or latino men.
64% Obama
33% McCain
Also white men did not significantly outperform white women when voting for McCain because I doubt 57% is outside the MOE difference.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (r2PLg)
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Oh, crap. I comment on the 3 week old post by accident. Am I going to hell, or getting banhammered?
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (mxnUd)
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I expect that black women voted for SCOAMF in
roughly the same percentages as black men did, but can we look that up
just to make sure?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (/kI1Q)
http://is.gd/fipvNU
roughly the same percentages as black men did, but can we look that up
just to make sure?
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (/kI1Q)
http://is.gd/fipvNU
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (YdQQY)
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51 maddog.....
Yup they only succeed with a sole guided narrative, and as such are vulnerable when unguided.
Yup they only succeed with a sole guided narrative, and as such are vulnerable when unguided.
Posted by: sven10077 at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (EXgH8)
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Does that mean watching Twilight will give me teh cancer?
Yes.
I am fairly certain that the 'ette consensus is that Nineteenth Amendment should be repealed.
Yes.
I am fairly certain that the 'ette consensus is that Nineteenth Amendment should be repealed.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (VtjlW)
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I expect that black women voted for SCOAMF in roughly the same percentages as black men did, but can we look that up just to make sure
I'm guessing the black female vote is higher than the black male vote because it's hard to vote from prison (isn't it?)
I expect that black women voted for SCOAMF in roughly the same percentages as black men did, but can we look that up just to make sure
I'm guessing the black female vote is higher than the black male vote because it's hard to vote from prison (isn't it?)
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (WGmy2)
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Someone rebury my body. My corpse is getting awfully beaten up being drug around by these opportunistic assholes like my husband and the fucktard Barry.
Posted by: Mrs Joe Soptic at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (YOZSv)
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This is a terrible strategy. Conservatives are so fired up, even with a mediocre candidate. 57 state landslide.
There's an interesting phenomenon that happens with presidential elections: We are all told how important it is to vote, no matter how uninformed you are. Rock the Vote, Vote or Die, etc.
Lots of people only vote in presidential elections, so what Obama would be counting on is that the undecided or wavering members of his natural constituencies would be so disgusted with politics that they would stick their fingers in their ears until November and then take them out just to pull the lever.
I don't think it will work, but what else does he have?
There's an interesting phenomenon that happens with presidential elections: We are all told how important it is to vote, no matter how uninformed you are. Rock the Vote, Vote or Die, etc.
Lots of people only vote in presidential elections, so what Obama would be counting on is that the undecided or wavering members of his natural constituencies would be so disgusted with politics that they would stick their fingers in their ears until November and then take them out just to pull the lever.
I don't think it will work, but what else does he have?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2012 01:19 PM (T0NGe)
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And while I am at it--surprisingly the latino vote is only about 7% of the general election turnout population.
IOW the media over sells that--a long with the white women vote thing.
IOW the media over sells that--a long with the white women vote thing.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (r2PLg)
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Obama's strategy is to simply disgust all voters except for his
hardest-core partisans and depress the vote of all groups except those
reliable Obamabots.
I would normally (with a sentient being in the White House) say, "Nothing new. That's his strategy on unemployment - to discourage enough people to leave the workforce to lower the fanciful unemployment rate."
But Barky is no sentient being and he has no such "strategy". The actual truth is much worse and much simpler: Barky the Dog-Eater wants to destroy this nation - to utterly tear apart this society - and he is just doing whatever the hell he wants to bring as much animus and strife to as many people as his pea-brain can think of. That's it. Not much else. He doesn't care about lying ... well ... he loves lying, but that isn't the point for him, here. He doesn't care about anything, just doing anything to break our society, our institutions and our culture. Not to erect anything in its place (Barky doesn't have any concept of building anything - he's too friggin stupid to even bother thinking about the construction of anything and he just doesn't care, anyway) but just to tear down everything he can and bring as much destruction to us as he can. He is a suicide bomber on his run and this is what it looks like.
That's really all there is to EVERYTHING the Ineligible Idiot from Indonesia does. Whatever seems to do the most damage ... that's what he'll go with, and push it even after it becomes a busted con, relying on the reluctance to take down an affirmative action baby on anything. That is the weakness he exploits (his only strength, in fact) and we are still too weak and cowardly in the face of PC to do anything about it, evidently.
Obama's strategy is to simply disgust all voters except for his
hardest-core partisans and depress the vote of all groups except those
reliable Obamabots.
I would normally (with a sentient being in the White House) say, "Nothing new. That's his strategy on unemployment - to discourage enough people to leave the workforce to lower the fanciful unemployment rate."
But Barky is no sentient being and he has no such "strategy". The actual truth is much worse and much simpler: Barky the Dog-Eater wants to destroy this nation - to utterly tear apart this society - and he is just doing whatever the hell he wants to bring as much animus and strife to as many people as his pea-brain can think of. That's it. Not much else. He doesn't care about lying ... well ... he loves lying, but that isn't the point for him, here. He doesn't care about anything, just doing anything to break our society, our institutions and our culture. Not to erect anything in its place (Barky doesn't have any concept of building anything - he's too friggin stupid to even bother thinking about the construction of anything and he just doesn't care, anyway) but just to tear down everything he can and bring as much destruction to us as he can. He is a suicide bomber on his run and this is what it looks like.
That's really all there is to EVERYTHING the Ineligible Idiot from Indonesia does. Whatever seems to do the most damage ... that's what he'll go with, and push it even after it becomes a busted con, relying on the reluctance to take down an affirmative action baby on anything. That is the weakness he exploits (his only strength, in fact) and we are still too weak and cowardly in the face of PC to do anything about it, evidently.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (X3lox)
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Out, damn sockpuppet.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (kqqGm)
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The FIRM was an amazing show. Jimmy Page did a fap-worthy rendition of the Whole Lotta Love solo.
Posted by: Time Travelling Mulcter at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (ay6+/)
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>>>Obama's strategy is to simply disgust all voters except for his hardest-core partisans and depress the vote of all groups except those reliable Obamabots.
There's inflection point, I would assume, where the voters decide finally to cast a punishment vote against Jeffrey Mc Greymustard.
There's inflection point, I would assume, where the voters decide finally to cast a punishment vote against Jeffrey Mc Greymustard.
Posted by: Max Power at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (+wxCD)
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It wasn't just black women, it was ALL minority women voting for him in mass numbers. A lot of those are going to stay at home this time because they are disillusioned.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (YdQQY)
Huh. Yeah. Looks like going gold digging for a more generous sugar daddy didn't work out that well after all...
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (YdQQY)
Huh. Yeah. Looks like going gold digging for a more generous sugar daddy didn't work out that well after all...
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (xUM1Q)
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As I said when last idiotic poll was pushed by Pew, spelunking the numbers gives Romney a 60-40 edge. Of course, if there are no truly undecideds, then that means...?
Maybe turnout being true bitter hate filled liberals without the traditional blue dogs and other soft non-hate filled liberals versus enthusiastic GOP base and some independents who hate hate hate Obama...
Romney 70, Obama 30.
Maybe turnout being true bitter hate filled liberals without the traditional blue dogs and other soft non-hate filled liberals versus enthusiastic GOP base and some independents who hate hate hate Obama...
Romney 70, Obama 30.
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 09, 2012 01:20 PM (QxSug)
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I'm betting on a lot of Barry's voters from '08 being too lazy/stoned to vote in November.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:21 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: SENATOR Al Franken at August 09, 2012 01:21 PM (PReJ3)
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I think there is a lot of women with 20 somethings living in their basements going WTF.
Women do much of the shopping. Take a trip to the grocery store and it's $40 for two bags of groceries.
Women get it, they sit silently waiting to pitch Obamas ass out.
Women do much of the shopping. Take a trip to the grocery store and it's $40 for two bags of groceries.
Women get it, they sit silently waiting to pitch Obamas ass out.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:21 PM (9TTOe)
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I am fairly certain that the 'ette consensus is that Nineteenth Amendment should be repealed.
With a fairly emphatic "Over my dead body" from HeatherRadish, IIRC.
With a fairly emphatic "Over my dead body" from HeatherRadish, IIRC.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:21 PM (8y9MW)
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Inside baseball stuff and Sabato is an idiot. Obama did not win white female voters in 2008. He will do even worse in 2012. Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (YdQQY)
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This is true. I'm thinking all of this is to make the voting public think that the SCOAMT's election tactics are an insurmountable juggernaut. How can we possibly go up against that? All is lost. Let's go home.
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This is true. I'm thinking all of this is to make the voting public think that the SCOAMT's election tactics are an insurmountable juggernaut. How can we possibly go up against that? All is lost. Let's go home.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:21 PM (oMjsq)
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Has anyone ever seen Rush and Ace at the same place at the same time?
I'm pretty sure Rush was in that tank.
I'm pretty sure Rush was in that tank.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:21 PM (VtjlW)
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psychobabble
Posted by: grease monkey at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (VSWPU)
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I have a question for the wimmens.
Pretend you don't know anything about politics so you're more like an undecided, apathetic female voter in the middle. It's hard to turn off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run on.
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Pretend you don't know anything about politics so you're more like an undecided, apathetic female voter in the middle. It's hard to turn off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run on.
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
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@50: If they're the same person, there should be a post momentarily about Bloomberg shutting down the free vibrator giveaway in NYC.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (tqwMN)
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Are women really that stupid?
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (06lNq)
Why no. No, we are not.
This Obama fellow has no idea what is going to hit him on the first Tuesday night in November. The narcissistic rage afterward from his cry room afterwards will be something to behold.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 09, 2012 01:16 PM (06lNq)
Why no. No, we are not.
This Obama fellow has no idea what is going to hit him on the first Tuesday night in November. The narcissistic rage afterward from his cry room afterwards will be something to behold.
Posted by: It's going to be biblical at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (whMsz)
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (WGmy2)
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I'm still waiting on Barry to pay for my gas and my mortgage. But the food stamp money has made my nails look phat.
Posted by: That one chick in 2008 at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (YOZSv)
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Well actually I've always thought his best hope was-
to depress Romney's turn out.
IOW we lose the election by the number of conservative that stay home.
Conservatives still out number Liberals by a significant majority in this country.
to depress Romney's turn out.
IOW we lose the election by the number of conservative that stay home.
Conservatives still out number Liberals by a significant majority in this country.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (r2PLg)
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I'm gonna stay out of the woman bashing. I still covet having one of my own.
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Midaz at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (ff2kT)
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Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
You might have worded that a little differently.
Or is there something you're trying to say?
You might have worded that a little differently.
Or is there something you're trying to say?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:23 PM (8y9MW)
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85 I'm gonna stay out of the woman bashing. I still covet having one of my own.
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
Yep, and I married up.
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
Yep, and I married up.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:23 PM (9TTOe)
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Kos has been writing a lot of cocky articles the last few days about how Obama's definitely winning the election.
A well needed dose of hilarity, especially when he says that all the polls are accurate except for Rasmussen
A well needed dose of hilarity, especially when he says that all the polls are accurate except for Rasmussen
Posted by: The Q at August 09, 2012 01:23 PM (B/yDO)
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Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
He has a purty mouth and puts wordstogether beautifully! Plus, he's smart! Lots of things to find attractive about Paul Ryan! (Besides a great head of hair, beautiful blue eyes, snappy dresser, sigh!)
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
He has a purty mouth and puts wordstogether beautifully! Plus, he's smart! Lots of things to find attractive about Paul Ryan! (Besides a great head of hair, beautiful blue eyes, snappy dresser, sigh!)
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (WGmy2)
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Those disgusting tactics and strategies would not work for Obama... let us not overrate Obama and his fools...
Posted by: mnjg at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (e3hs8)
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So is violence justified yet?
Posted by: Trump at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (q7YY1)
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And the media being bothered by idiotic, stupid and lazy Obama gaffe? Hmm, first rule of liberal pathology club is that there is no reprecussion for bad behavior. This will be forgotten by Fri....
hey look a squirrel!
hey look a squirrel!
Posted by: joeindc44 says choom on fuckers at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (QxSug)
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Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
He's smart and adorable. Like make him pancakes and coo over him while he eats them, then snuggle him for a nap adorable.
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
He's smart and adorable. Like make him pancakes and coo over him while he eats them, then snuggle him for a nap adorable.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (YOZSv)
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79 I have a question for the wimmens.
Pretend you don't know anything about politics so you're more like an undecided, apathetic female voter in the middle. It's hard to turn off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run on.
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
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Doesn't Romney do all that?
IOW does Romney need-
more attractive?
Pretend you don't know anything about politics so you're more like an undecided, apathetic female voter in the middle. It's hard to turn off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run on.
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
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Doesn't Romney do all that?
IOW does Romney need-
more attractive?
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (r2PLg)
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>>>Inside baseball stuff and Sabato is an idiot. Obama did not win white female voters in 2008. He will do even worse in 2012. Posted by: Vic
Vic, of course he will lose them. The question is by how much. It's all about margins. It's not inside baseball, it's the central front of the political campaign, and you're revealing yourself as a bit of a naif.
Romney will lose Hispanics. It makes a large difference if he looses them 58-42 as opposed to 68-32.
Similarly Obama will lose the white vote, both male and female. But Republicans who win elections win the female white vote strongly, and Republicans who lose win female whites weakly.
Vic, of course he will lose them. The question is by how much. It's all about margins. It's not inside baseball, it's the central front of the political campaign, and you're revealing yourself as a bit of a naif.
Romney will lose Hispanics. It makes a large difference if he looses them 58-42 as opposed to 68-32.
Similarly Obama will lose the white vote, both male and female. But Republicans who win elections win the female white vote strongly, and Republicans who lose win female whites weakly.
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:24 PM (fxHyG)
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So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to
women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing
enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that
these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually
have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Ummm.........what? (fantasizes about stuff)
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to
women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing
enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that
these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually
have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Ummm.........what? (fantasizes about stuff)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:25 PM (UOM48)
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Women do much of the shopping. Take a trip to the grocery store and it's $40 for two bags of groceries.
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$40 for two bags? That's a fucking bargain. I guess if one only bought pinto beans and cheap hot-dog wieners, could two bags be filled for $40.
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$40 for two bags? That's a fucking bargain. I guess if one only bought pinto beans and cheap hot-dog wieners, could two bags be filled for $40.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:25 PM (oMjsq)
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So what should Mitt do. With respect to this ad, Mitt's best strategy was to do nothing, because in this case the press is backing him up and telling the voters that this ad is disgusting. They sort of did the same thing with Reid. Of course then Mitt's spokesperson steps on it and angers the base for no purpose. But even that may have been a short-term blip. Using a basketball analagy, maybe it is a good idea to trip up going into the tournament and not during the tournament. The tournament starts at the convention and really after Labor Day.
If the case has been made against Romney, his best strategy may be to go postive. But differently from Obama's "positive" campaign of 2008 which centered around him. Use more of Reagan's 1994 playbook. Make the case for America. Be bullish on small business, be bullish on solving our problems, but don't be fake with Hope and Change. I actually think this will be his strategy, but we'll see.
If the case has been made against Romney, his best strategy may be to go postive. But differently from Obama's "positive" campaign of 2008 which centered around him. Use more of Reagan's 1994 playbook. Make the case for America. Be bullish on small business, be bullish on solving our problems, but don't be fake with Hope and Change. I actually think this will be his strategy, but we'll see.
Posted by: SH at August 09, 2012 01:25 PM (gmeXX)
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We should send some morons on a Raid to Kos falseflagging support for his position that donk turnout will exceed 2008 like the D+19 polls show.....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 09, 2012 01:25 PM (EXgH8)
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@6 Vic
No, but he did win the college-educated white women (the 'we hate men' crowd) and generally comentators are refering to this voting block, rather than non-college educated women, who went for McCain.
Full disclosure: College educated white women lean Republican as well, but by an extremely small margin of 1-2%. They gave Obama slightly under 52% of their vote.
@6 Vic
No, but he did win the college-educated white women (the 'we hate men' crowd) and generally comentators are refering to this voting block, rather than non-college educated women, who went for McCain.
Full disclosure: College educated white women lean Republican as well, but by an extremely small margin of 1-2%. They gave Obama slightly under 52% of their vote.
Posted by: IrishNewEnglander at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (OygJX)
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So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough
Yes.
What's that? A notebook with Ryan/Jindal 2016 4EVA! in pink sparkly pen on it behind me? I have no idea what you're talking about.
Unrelated: guy rubs dog crap on his mother's face because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State! http://bit.ly/OSfSgL
Yes.
What's that? A notebook with Ryan/Jindal 2016 4EVA! in pink sparkly pen on it behind me? I have no idea what you're talking about.
Unrelated: guy rubs dog crap on his mother's face because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State! http://bit.ly/OSfSgL
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (VtjlW)
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I am fairly certain that the 'ette consensus is that Nineteenth Amendment should be repealed.
Yeah, I don't get the whole "please, treat me like I'm nothing more than the property of my father/brother/husband!!" thing, possibly because my father encouraged me to be self-reliant and my brother's a jackass.
Yeah, I don't get the whole "please, treat me like I'm nothing more than the property of my father/brother/husband!!" thing, possibly because my father encouraged me to be self-reliant and my brother's a jackass.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (/kI1Q)
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It's hard to turn off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
hahahaha, reason and accountability just called and said...
It's hard to turn off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
hahahaha, reason and accountability just called and said...
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (9Q7Nu)
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85 I'm gonna stay out of the woman bashing. I still covet having one of my own.
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
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Well, at least we know you're thinking it...
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (OlN4e)
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Well, at least we know you're thinking it...
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (8y9MW)
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@79
If Romney need to pick a VP that gets women's juices flowing it's got to be
Marco Rubio.
Tall, Dark, Handsome, and have you ever seen him talk?
The dude knows how to talk and is smart.
He's a little bit too enamored with the amnesty crap but he's solid, if you know what I mean.
If Romney need to pick a VP that gets women's juices flowing it's got to be
Marco Rubio.
Tall, Dark, Handsome, and have you ever seen him talk?
The dude knows how to talk and is smart.
He's a little bit too enamored with the amnesty crap but he's solid, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: General Woundwort at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (06lNq)
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don't get angry with me, Jack Nicholson said it
don't get angry with me, Jack Nicholson said it
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (9Q7Nu)
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Unrelated: guy rubs dog crap on his mother's face
because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State!
http://bit.ly/OSfSgL
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (VtjlW
I'll go with Florida for $200, alex.
because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State!
http://bit.ly/OSfSgL
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (VtjlW
I'll go with Florida for $200, alex.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (UOM48)
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nrelated: guy rubs dog crap on his mother's face because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State! http://bit.ly/OSfSgL
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (VtjlW)
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Vodka....
Ohio?
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (VtjlW)
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Vodka....
Ohio?
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (r2PLg)
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As long as women can vote, the welfare state can never be effectively turned back.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (xUM1Q)
Um, what?
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:18 PM (xUM1Q)
Um, what?
Posted by: I run a business so don't tell me all women want handouts, loser at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (whMsz)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:27 PM (8y9MW)
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107 @79
If Romney need to pick a VP that gets women's juices flowing it's got to be
Marco Rubio.
Tall, Dark, Handsome, and have you ever seen him talk?
*************
Look you are NOT a chick.
I can tell.
If Romney need to pick a VP that gets women's juices flowing it's got to be
Marco Rubio.
Tall, Dark, Handsome, and have you ever seen him talk?
*************
Look you are NOT a chick.
I can tell.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (r2PLg)
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Thought the Morning Jag crew clip might actually rip Barry on this but it's just a lot of hang wringing about how bad this is making Barry look and they are so super smart and shouldn't have let it happen
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (1Jaio)
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>Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
>>You might have worded that a little differently.
Or is there something you're trying to say?
No, I mean, come on. I don't have to be gay to note that a guy is objectively good-looking. But not being inclined to be actually attracted to men, I don't know if he's actually attractive to people attracted to men.
Some guys may be sort of good looking but for whatever reason women might just say "Meh." Whereas a less attractive guy might have an It Factor working for him that women find appealing.
I don't know. Only women know.
So I ask them.
It's not often I ask them to run their yap-holes instead of baking their men sex-cakes, but I have to do so now.
>>You might have worded that a little differently.
Or is there something you're trying to say?
No, I mean, come on. I don't have to be gay to note that a guy is objectively good-looking. But not being inclined to be actually attracted to men, I don't know if he's actually attractive to people attracted to men.
Some guys may be sort of good looking but for whatever reason women might just say "Meh." Whereas a less attractive guy might have an It Factor working for him that women find appealing.
I don't know. Only women know.
So I ask them.
It's not often I ask them to run their yap-holes instead of baking their men sex-cakes, but I have to do so now.
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (fxHyG)
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I have a question for the wimmens.
Pretend you don't know anything about politics so you're more like
an undecided, apathetic female voter in the middle. It's hard to turn
off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our
leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous
to run on.
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to
women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing
enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that
these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually
have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
So is Ace hijacking his own post?
Pretend you don't know anything about politics so you're more like
an undecided, apathetic female voter in the middle. It's hard to turn
off parts of your brain but try to pretend.
So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our
leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous
to run on.
So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to
women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing
enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that
these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually
have a non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
So is Ace hijacking his own post?
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (kqqGm)
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Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
I don't vote based on physical appearance, but on policy. But since you're asking about a female judgement on physical appearance and demeanor here it is:
I am of the opinion that Paul Ryan would end up being a positive, regardless of entitlement reform, if we're looking at things in the way you propose. He is what I'd call a "cutie." Not hot, but attractive in a boyish sort-of way, and without fail he comes across as sincere and a genuinely nice guy.
So, as far as that part of women's thinking goes, I think he is cute enough that some women would ignore the "throw granny off the cliff" rhetoric you'd get.
I don't vote based on physical appearance, but on policy. But since you're asking about a female judgement on physical appearance and demeanor here it is:
I am of the opinion that Paul Ryan would end up being a positive, regardless of entitlement reform, if we're looking at things in the way you propose. He is what I'd call a "cutie." Not hot, but attractive in a boyish sort-of way, and without fail he comes across as sincere and a genuinely nice guy.
So, as far as that part of women's thinking goes, I think he is cute enough that some women would ignore the "throw granny off the cliff" rhetoric you'd get.
Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker for dagny at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (qFpRI)
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Unrelated: guy rubs dog crap on his mother's face because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State!
Flori-duh?
Unrelated: guy rubs dog crap on his mother's face because she wouldn't give him a shot of vodka. Guess! That! State!
Flori-duh?
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (WGmy2)
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:28 PM (r2PLg)
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but does the fact that Paul Ryan drinks expensive wine bother you, ladies?
(I know it bothered one particular nosy woman)
but does the fact that Paul Ryan drinks expensive wine bother you, ladies?
(I know it bothered one particular nosy woman)
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (9Q7Nu)
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The sob story is deliberately chosen to turn white female undecided voters away from the election -- they may despise Obama, especially after this ad, but they'll still remember the lie, won't they?
Exactly - as I put it, it is to scare the old ladies in Florida who love them some Romney.
But yes I hope they get busted for coordination, the guy is wearing the same shirt in the official campaign ad and in the independent ad. The law says they cannot coordinate, which is why it makes the "we can't tell our supporters what to do" line work. Even though the press is on Republicans to do it all the time.
Bonus: having some hate-chicken for lunch, the waffle fries are yummy!
Exactly - as I put it, it is to scare the old ladies in Florida who love them some Romney.
But yes I hope they get busted for coordination, the guy is wearing the same shirt in the official campaign ad and in the independent ad. The law says they cannot coordinate, which is why it makes the "we can't tell our supporters what to do" line work. Even though the press is on Republicans to do it all the time.
Bonus: having some hate-chicken for lunch, the waffle fries are yummy!
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (7vSU0)
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Yeah, I don't get the whole "please, treat me like I'm nothing more than the property of my father/brother/husband!!" thing, possibly because my father encouraged me to be self-reliant and my brother's a jackass.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (/kI1Q)
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It's usually not about themselves. It's about the fact that if you look at any 5 or 10 of your female friends, and then ask yourself whether a majority of themshould be involved in making political decisions, the answer will probably be an emphatic "NO." When friends' wives get bent out of shape over my opinion on the matter I ask them to carry out that thought exercise. Shuts them up 100% of the time.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (/kI1Q)
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It's usually not about themselves. It's about the fact that if you look at any 5 or 10 of your female friends, and then ask yourself whether a majority of themshould be involved in making political decisions, the answer will probably be an emphatic "NO." When friends' wives get bent out of shape over my opinion on the matter I ask them to carry out that thought exercise. Shuts them up 100% of the time.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (xUM1Q)
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Remember USA vs Japan women's soccer gold medal match 2:00PM
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (05RcU)
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Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:26 PM (/kI1Q)
Well, see, you're using reason and accountability and thus proving you're an outlier and thus worthy of the franchise.
Well, see, you're using reason and accountability and thus proving you're an outlier and thus worthy of the franchise.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (VtjlW)
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (r2PLg)
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So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to women
to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to
activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True
Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a
non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
I'll let a couple of other women answer that for ya:
http://heygirlitspaulryan.tumblr.com/
to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to
activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True
Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a
non-rational positive feeling towards him?
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
I'll let a couple of other women answer that for ya:
http://heygirlitspaulryan.tumblr.com/
Posted by: Eviva at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (whMsz)
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So my question for the wimmens: Is Paul Ryan attractive enough to women to, um, you know, I don't mean sexually, but is he appealing enough to activate any of the non-rational parts of the brain so that these True Undecided apathetic disconnected women voters might actually have a non-rational positive feeling towards him? Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
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You're creepin' me out a bit here, Ace.
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You're creepin' me out a bit here, Ace.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (oMjsq)
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"Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Posted by: ace"
I think Paul Ryan would flip that "ooo, he's so dreamy" switch for undecided women in a big way.
Posted by: ace"
I think Paul Ryan would flip that "ooo, he's so dreamy" switch for undecided women in a big way.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (Y2CR/)
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I would think that women would be more likely to have a depressed turnout from a GOP who look like they aren't able to stand up and defend anything of value. That, of course, would go for men, too. No one likes a coward and no one trusts a coward - even against a nasty, retarded lying sack of shit.
Barky's ads would have no effect on any GOPers, whatsoever, if we had a GOP that had at least one nut. But the exact thing they are scared to do - to impeach the America-hating criminal or even talk about it - is what makes the GOP so untrustworthy and leads people to start thinking about other things rather than the election.
If we dumped the Weeping Boner things would radically change immediately. He's an anchor dragging us and everything down with his tears and fear of everything.
Barky's ads would have no effect on any GOPers, whatsoever, if we had a GOP that had at least one nut. But the exact thing they are scared to do - to impeach the America-hating criminal or even talk about it - is what makes the GOP so untrustworthy and leads people to start thinking about other things rather than the election.
If we dumped the Weeping Boner things would radically change immediately. He's an anchor dragging us and everything down with his tears and fear of everything.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (X3lox)
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I am overwhelmingly white and female, and I haven't been more excited to vote EVER!
#79- Paul Ryan is super good looking. Sexy in a clean cut way. Especially when he rolls up his shirts sleeves to mid-forearm. Romney is attractive, too IMO.
But I can't turn off that part of my brain that thinks it will be dangerous to campaign on Ryan's economic plan.
#79- Paul Ryan is super good looking. Sexy in a clean cut way. Especially when he rolls up his shirts sleeves to mid-forearm. Romney is attractive, too IMO.
But I can't turn off that part of my brain that thinks it will be dangerous to campaign on Ryan's economic plan.
Posted by: LASue at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (wAhNv)
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Ace, I got two words for you:
Thaddeus McCotter.
A face only a mother could love, but he slices like a f'n hammer rhetorically on the House floor.
Thaddeus McCotter.
A face only a mother could love, but he slices like a f'n hammer rhetorically on the House floor.
Posted by: EC at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (GQ8sn)
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When I turn off my brain and pretend to be a normal woman, I don't see anyone who swooned at "it's wrong for men to have lower health insurance premiums just because they won't need prenatal care" and "I will give free medicines to all the sick rising oceans!!" getting turned on by Paul Ryan's math talk.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (/kI1Q)
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to depress Romney's turn out...
That's a sucker play when nobody is actually voting "for" Romney, rather against Obama. The relentless patently dishonest attacks just harden the anti-Obama sentiment, and slowly peel off the low-info types as they get more info.
Obama can't add voters anymore (other than the fraud of course), but Romney can pick some up.
That's a sucker play when nobody is actually voting "for" Romney, rather against Obama. The relentless patently dishonest attacks just harden the anti-Obama sentiment, and slowly peel off the low-info types as they get more info.
Obama can't add voters anymore (other than the fraud of course), but Romney can pick some up.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (3Thg4)
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Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Ruh roh! Paul Ryan better start locking up his garbage...
Or his he just MY idea of what an attractive guy is?
Ruh roh! Paul Ryan better start locking up his garbage...
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (WGmy2)
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>>Romney will lose Hispanics. It makes a large difference if he looses them 58-42 as opposed to 68-32.
This is why R.Money will tap Rubio. Imagine him on UniVison, Telemundo, and that new Fox Espanol channel speaking directly to the in fluent Spanish telling them what a fuck up Ogabe is
This is why R.Money will tap Rubio. Imagine him on UniVison, Telemundo, and that new Fox Espanol channel speaking directly to the in fluent Spanish telling them what a fuck up Ogabe is
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 09, 2012 01:32 PM (Yhu4q)
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When I turn off my brain and pretend to be a normal woman, I don't see
anyone....getting turned on by
Paul Ryan's math talk.
That's because math is hard for wimminz.
* runs *
anyone....getting turned on by
Paul Ryan's math talk.
That's because math is hard for wimminz.
* runs *
Posted by: EC at August 09, 2012 01:32 PM (GQ8sn)
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Ryan is super-smart and not another old white guy.
Rubio is smart, has a great story, not another old white guy, and attractive to the latino voters.
Either of them would be a good choice.
Plus, they're both hot. So there's your wimmins' vote.
Rubio is smart, has a great story, not another old white guy, and attractive to the latino voters.
Either of them would be a good choice.
Plus, they're both hot. So there's your wimmins' vote.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (UOM48)
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ace I believe that you were supposed to say "No homo" at the end of your comment. Unless, well...
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (7vSU0)
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No, I mean, come on. I don't have to be gay to note that a guy is objectively good-looking. But not being inclined to be actually attracted to men, I don't know if he's actually attractive to people attracted to men.
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No he is hot but does Romney want someone who will eclipse him in the--
That's Hot--department?
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No he is hot but does Romney want someone who will eclipse him in the--
That's Hot--department?
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (r2PLg)
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Vic, of course he will lose them. The question is by how much. It's all about margins.
What I am saying is that he lost white women in 2008 which was a wave election for Democrats. He will do MUCH worse with them in 2012 based on the 2010 election.
He will still win 95% of blacks and 70% of the Hispanics, but the turnout for those will be much lower than 2008, thus he will lose this election by 5% to 8% in the popular count and probably will only win 10 States overall.
What I am saying is that he lost white women in 2008 which was a wave election for Democrats. He will do MUCH worse with them in 2012 based on the 2010 election.
He will still win 95% of blacks and 70% of the Hispanics, but the turnout for those will be much lower than 2008, thus he will lose this election by 5% to 8% in the popular count and probably will only win 10 States overall.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (YdQQY)
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This is why R.Money will tap Rubio. Imagine him on UniVison, Telemundo, and that new Fox Espanol channel speaking directly to the in fluent Spanish telling them what a fuck up Ogabe is
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 09, 2012 01:32 PM (Yhu4q)
Oh, and when he starts preaching a cloudy form of amnesty, well that'll really get em goin.
This is why R.Money will tap Rubio. Imagine him on UniVison, Telemundo, and that new Fox Espanol channel speaking directly to the in fluent Spanish telling them what a fuck up Ogabe is
Posted by: Albie Damned at August 09, 2012 01:32 PM (Yhu4q)
Oh, and when he starts preaching a cloudy form of amnesty, well that'll really get em goin.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (9TTOe)
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@79 ace
I'm not a wimmens, but I did post an article about Ryan on facebook, and the female reaction to him was overwhelmingly positive. Most of these girls don't know nothing about politics either, so it is a good sign as to his, ahem, sexual appeal, even if it is a small one. One comment that sticks out in my mind is one: "I'D vote for him," even though she knew nothing of his politics.
@79 ace
I'm not a wimmens, but I did post an article about Ryan on facebook, and the female reaction to him was overwhelmingly positive. Most of these girls don't know nothing about politics either, so it is a good sign as to his, ahem, sexual appeal, even if it is a small one. One comment that sticks out in my mind is one: "I'D vote for him," even though she knew nothing of his politics.
Posted by: IrishNewEnglander at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (OygJX)
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One of my Sailor's posted on her facebook page that her manager at her civilian job was an asshole. I gently suggested she might want to deep six that post so the manager does not see it. She really is one of the best sailors in my Unit and did not want to see her get into any trouble. It's gone. Smart girl
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (05RcU)
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I really sick of everyone on our side who think that everything done by the Obama is purposeful to their ends. These guys are arrogant losers and lowlifes and losers and lowlifes make mistakes. This was not a winner but a big loser for them. Period
Posted by: mikey at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (kmxWt)
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@135: So what is "SCOAMF" en Espanol?
Posted by: Ian S. at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (tqwMN)
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:34 PM (3Thg4)
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No he is hot but does Romney want someone who will eclipse him in the--
That's Hot--department?
Not ALL MA Republicans run based on having been the centerfold of a women's magazine.
That's Hot--department?
Not ALL MA Republicans run based on having been the centerfold of a women's magazine.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:34 PM (8y9MW)
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138 ace I believe that you were supposed to say "No homo" at the end of your comment. Unless, well...
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (7vSU0)
The new term is "No Gay In Me"
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (7vSU0)
The new term is "No Gay In Me"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
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Only because they've been told that 6 is really 10
That whole "Size 0" crap was the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on women. I still laugh when I see it in stores.
That whole "Size 0" crap was the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on women. I still laugh when I see it in stores.
Posted by: EC at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (GQ8sn)
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This is the way the machine has run elections in Chicago for at least my lifetime. It enhances the voter turnout ability for the party apparatus i.e. city workers, unions, etc. and suppresses the turnout of independents and reformers
Posted by: @huffpeter at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (NHNJt)
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Only because they've been told that 6 is really 10
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:34 PM (3Thg4)
SHHHHHHHH!!!!
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:34 PM (3Thg4)
SHHHHHHHH!!!!
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (7vSU0)
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@52: But..but.. she's a soulless ginger!
Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (izA2D)
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The new term is "No Gay In Me"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
I believe you mean "not a gay in me."
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
I believe you mean "not a gay in me."
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (7vSU0)
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (/kI1Q)
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132 When I turn off my brain and pretend to be a normal woman, I don't see anyone who swooned at "it's wrong for men to have lower health insurance premiums just because they won't need prenatal care" and "I will give free medicines to all the sick rising oceans!!" getting turned on by Paul Ryan's math talk.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (/kI1Q)
I see you need to be introduced to some of my in-laws. Your opinion on this subject will change rather rapidly.
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (/kI1Q)
I see you need to be introduced to some of my in-laws. Your opinion on this subject will change rather rapidly.
Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker for dagny at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (qFpRI)
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These guys are arrogant losers and lowlifes and losers and lowlifes make mistakes.
Blind squirrel, nut. Where's Obama's nut? You can't fuck up as relentlessly as he has without it being on purpose.
Blind squirrel, nut. Where's Obama's nut? You can't fuck up as relentlessly as he has without it being on purpose.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (3Thg4)
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Ryan if he actually wants to succeed.
Posted by: Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (qxcKC)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (mFxQX)
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (VtjlW)
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thus he will lose this election by 5% to 8% in the popular count and probably will only win 10 States overall.
If that happens, I'm road-tripping to SC and buying you dinner.* I just don't see a 40-state landslide in the cards for Romney.
*- not really, I don't have that kind of spare change lying around, but I might buy you a drink at the Inauguration Moron Meetup if you show.
If that happens, I'm road-tripping to SC and buying you dinner.* I just don't see a 40-state landslide in the cards for Romney.
*- not really, I don't have that kind of spare change lying around, but I might buy you a drink at the Inauguration Moron Meetup if you show.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (8y9MW)
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Imagine him on UniVison, Telemundo, and that new
Fox Espanol channel speaking directly to the in fluent Spanish telling
them what a fuck up Ogabe isPosted by: Albie Damned
I'm guessing that it would be the first time the audience will have heard anything remotely like it.
Which is to say, he'll be assumed to be an escaped lunatic.
Fox Espanol channel speaking directly to the in fluent Spanish telling
them what a fuck up Ogabe isPosted by: Albie Damned
I'm guessing that it would be the first time the audience will have heard anything remotely like it.
Which is to say, he'll be assumed to be an escaped lunatic.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (H4Rpo)
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The new term is "No Gay In Me"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
Do you have any gay in you?
Would you like some?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
Do you have any gay in you?
Would you like some?
Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (wWVtJ)
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I usually roll my eyes when conservatives talk about turning out the base, but I do belive that's what is going to blow all of the projections out of the water. I've never in my life seen Republicans this fired up, or Democrats this depressed.
If the Republicans outperform what they turned out in 2004, it will be a blowout of epic proportions, as we'll also easily carry the independents.
If the Republicans outperform what they turned out in 2004, it will be a blowout of epic proportions, as we'll also easily carry the independents.
Posted by: Brady at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (0kf1G)
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I don't think the analysis needs to be so finessed. Axelshit et. al wants to drill it into the public consciousness that Romney is a criminal. Felon, wife-killer, whatever it takes. They must have focus grouped that soptic drivel and gotten good results. Or the results were bad, but V. Jarrett just decided that it was a FABULOUS idea that would never blow up in their collective Chicago Commiecrat face.
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (jm/9g)
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That's because math is hard for wimminz.
I call bullshit, the misses helped me through statistics.
I call bullshit, the misses helped me through statistics.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (9TTOe)
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Look, if I was an uninformed independent voter, and either Rubio or Ryan were on the ticket, I'd definitely take a second look. Especially if my groceries and gas prices were on the rise, my husband was out of work, and I hadn't gotten a raise in three years. It might be enough for me to put 2+2 together.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (Y2CR/)
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@58: The choices are not mutually exclusive. You can have both.
Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (izA2D)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (UOM48)
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Obama's strategy is to simply disgust all voters except for his hardest-core partisans and depress the vote of all groups except those reliable Obamabots.
This would be an awesome premise for a late night sketch comedy show known for pointed political humor. You know, succeedingly more desperate, over-top-ads appealing to a shrinking group of voters.
If only such a program existed.
This would be an awesome premise for a late night sketch comedy show known for pointed political humor. You know, succeedingly more desperate, over-top-ads appealing to a shrinking group of voters.
If only such a program existed.
Posted by: CJ at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (9KqcB)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (kqqGm)
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"It's about the fact that if you look at any 5 or 10
of your female friends, and then ask yourself whether a majority of
themshould be involved in making political decisions, the answer will
probably be an emphatic "NO." When friends' wives get bent out of shape
over my opinion on the matter I ask them to carry out that thought
exercise. Shuts them up 100% of the time.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (xUM1Q)"I would love it if about 95% of my female friends were in charge of all the political decisions for the entire US of A. Perhaps your time would be better spent examining your choice of "friends" rather than railing at half the population with flimsy anecdotal evidence.
of your female friends, and then ask yourself whether a majority of
themshould be involved in making political decisions, the answer will
probably be an emphatic "NO." When friends' wives get bent out of shape
over my opinion on the matter I ask them to carry out that thought
exercise. Shuts them up 100% of the time.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:29 PM (xUM1Q)"I would love it if about 95% of my female friends were in charge of all the political decisions for the entire US of A. Perhaps your time would be better spent examining your choice of "friends" rather than railing at half the population with flimsy anecdotal evidence.
Posted by: one pissed conservative female at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (whMsz)
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26 With all due respect to the female moronettes here...
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I was going to snark about non-female moronettes, but then I realized that would just piss off the Thai tranny hooker moron demographic.
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I was going to snark about non-female moronettes, but then I realized that would just piss off the Thai tranny hooker moron demographic.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (xGZ+b)
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No Rubio is not a good pick.
Again too young looking.
He really needs to get rid of the john boy haircut.
Again too young looking.
He really needs to get rid of the john boy haircut.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (r2PLg)
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Easy prediction: more Joe Sobstory ads are in the offing, featuring other helpless victims of Romney's vampirism. Think this is backfiring? Obama doubled down on his "you didn't build that" theme. He's not going to abandon this mangy horse either.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Randy Travis is free with the body at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (AZGON)
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Paul Ryan is attractive. Looks like the all american good husband and father type.. and he is young and good looking.
Rick Perry.. is just HOT... he has that arrogant in a fun way sex appeal.
Allen West... smoking HOT. His confidence is extremely sexy.
Rick Perry.. is just HOT... he has that arrogant in a fun way sex appeal.
Allen West... smoking HOT. His confidence is extremely sexy.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (DGIjM)
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Romney is attractive enough for the women. Fit enough, tall, little salt and pepper. Plus he has sired 5 men, and his wife is attractive and not just "for her age."
Romney needs something for the fellas. I still say Kleefisch.
Romney needs something for the fellas. I still say Kleefisch.
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (7vSU0)
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I call bullshit, the misses helped me through statistics.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (9TTOe)
Then you must know what an "outlier' is...
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:37 PM (9TTOe)
Then you must know what an "outlier' is...
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (xUM1Q)
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At Drudge: Apparently the tolerant, non-racist Dems have an ad portrayng Alan West as beating up old white women and stealing money.
The death throes of the Democrats will not be pretty.
The death throes of the Democrats will not be pretty.
Posted by: Chicken Little at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (YmPwQ)
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Everything the OBama camp is doing now indicates that their polling shows massive problems.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (eavT+)
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162 The new term is "No Gay In Me"
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
Do you have any gay in you?
Would you like some?
Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (wWVtJ)
Would having "Gay" in me make me want to watch "The View"?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:35 PM (136wp)
Do you have any gay in you?
Would you like some?
Posted by: Stark Dickflüssig at August 09, 2012 01:36 PM (wWVtJ)
Would having "Gay" in me make me want to watch "The View"?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (136wp)
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Rubio isn't eligible and he has a totally toxic amnesty-mongering position. I can barely think of a worse pick than Rubio, both Constitutionally and politically.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (X3lox)
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romney will win independents, but it's a big difference winning by 5, or winning by 10, or even winning by 15.
It's also important how many of them show up. Obama's strategy is to disgust them from voting and have a base v. base contest (which we could actually lose, as there are in fact more democrats than Republicans).
It's also important how many of them show up. Obama's strategy is to disgust them from voting and have a base v. base contest (which we could actually lose, as there are in fact more democrats than Republicans).
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (fxHyG)
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The only way to address this is:
A. At the convention - call them out on the lies - vehemently
B. Romney face to face with Obama in the debates calling him out as a liar.
A. At the convention - call them out on the lies - vehemently
B. Romney face to face with Obama in the debates calling him out as a liar.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (f9c2L)
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He really needs to get rid of the john boy haircut.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (r2PLg)
Yeah, he needs a mullet.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (r2PLg)
Yeah, he needs a mullet.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (9TTOe)
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I think Paul Ryan would flip that "ooo, he's so dreamy" switch for undecided women in a big way.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (Y2CR/)
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Yes, especially after whoever it was upthread talked about him rolling up his sleeves to reveal his forearm. Budget, shmudget, a sexy forearm really draws our attention to the important matters in life.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:30 PM (Y2CR/)
___
Yes, especially after whoever it was upthread talked about him rolling up his sleeves to reveal his forearm. Budget, shmudget, a sexy forearm really draws our attention to the important matters in life.
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (jm/9g)
187
Paul Ryan prefers the long bow over the crossbow. Discuss how this helps/doesn't help.
Posted by: taylork at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (ppNDn)
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140 "probably will only win 10 States overall"
Love the optimism, but there's no way this is happening.
NY, CA, OR, WA, MA, ME, NH, VT, DE, MD, and IL are all guaranteed.
I think he's also definitely taking VA, NJ, MN. I think he's got a good shot at NV, NM, CO, WI, MI, and OH.
Obama's winning at least 15 states, maybe close to 20
Love the optimism, but there's no way this is happening.
NY, CA, OR, WA, MA, ME, NH, VT, DE, MD, and IL are all guaranteed.
I think he's also definitely taking VA, NJ, MN. I think he's got a good shot at NV, NM, CO, WI, MI, and OH.
Obama's winning at least 15 states, maybe close to 20
Posted by: The Q at August 09, 2012 01:39 PM (B/yDO)
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:40 PM (Y2CR/)
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"I would love it if about 95% of my female friends were in charge of all the political decisions for the entire US of A. Perhaps your time would be better spent examining your choice of "friends" rather than railing at half the population with flimsy anecdotal evidence.
Posted by: one pissed conservative female at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (whMsz)
Amen.. I dont have any female friends who are voting Obama.
Posted by: one pissed conservative female at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (whMsz)
Amen.. I dont have any female friends who are voting Obama.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 09, 2012 01:40 PM (DGIjM)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 09, 2012 01:40 PM (kqqGm)
192
Everything the OBama camp is doing now indicates that their polling shows massive problems.
That's what ulsterman has been saying...
That's what ulsterman has been saying...
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:40 PM (3Thg4)
193
The death throes of the Democrats will not be pretty.
Plus we're facing an epic popcorn and pudding shortage as a result.
Plus we're facing an epic popcorn and pudding shortage as a result.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at August 09, 2012 01:40 PM (VtjlW)
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I have the feeling the Romney camp is letting BO show his cards early while most aren't paying attention. The ones that are paying attention are probably decided. Hopefully Romney will hit hard after the convention. Don't start the sprint too early. You risk having to change tactics to close to the end.
i denounce myself
i denounce myself
Posted by: The Jackhole at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (nTgAI)
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>>>Racimo-cogida de tardamudeo de un incidente desgraciado
Hah! I tried myself. Is that close to a good translation? If so I might have to start using that.
Hah! I tried myself. Is that close to a good translation? If so I might have to start using that.
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (fxHyG)
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79...So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run on. ....
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
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Paul Ryan is kinda cute....but not all that attractive, imo.
He comes across as sort of wimpy, in some ways.
Women like 'hero' types.
Ryan is painfully honest sometimes.
And this could hurt him with the ditzy females......the ones who fall for the type of demagoguery that Team Barky would do with Ryan's budget-cutting.
Ryan's honesty is refreshing to me....but unfortunately, I don't think it would be to the liberal-leaning swing-voter females.
If Ryan were more charismatic....he could pull it off better.
Women tend to take brutal honesty better...from a charismatic hero type.
Barky ran in 2008 as a 'hero type'.
But now that charade is crumbling....and they're starting to see him as the smooth-talking cad that he really is.
79...So, I think Paul Ryan is an appealing, attractive guy.
He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run on. ....
Posted by: ace at August 09, 2012 01:22 PM (fxHyG)
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Paul Ryan is kinda cute....but not all that attractive, imo.
He comes across as sort of wimpy, in some ways.
Women like 'hero' types.
Ryan is painfully honest sometimes.
And this could hurt him with the ditzy females......the ones who fall for the type of demagoguery that Team Barky would do with Ryan's budget-cutting.
Ryan's honesty is refreshing to me....but unfortunately, I don't think it would be to the liberal-leaning swing-voter females.
If Ryan were more charismatic....he could pull it off better.
Women tend to take brutal honesty better...from a charismatic hero type.
Barky ran in 2008 as a 'hero type'.
But now that charade is crumbling....and they're starting to see him as the smooth-talking cad that he really is.
Posted by: wheatie at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (mtRB0)
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No he is hot but does Romney want someone who will eclipse him in the-- That's Hot--department?
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (r2PLg)
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Since Ace has suddenly turned this into a latent ghey thread, I'd say, from what I know from a woman's point of view, is that there is older-man hot, and then there's younger-man hot. It'll appeal to all the wimmins.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:33 PM (r2PLg)
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Since Ace has suddenly turned this into a latent ghey thread, I'd say, from what I know from a woman's point of view, is that there is older-man hot, and then there's younger-man hot. It'll appeal to all the wimmins.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (oMjsq)
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WHAT ABOUT ME ACE? I thought we had something special going.
Posted by: Marco Rubio's garbage at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (YOZSv)
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Has anyone noticed that Stephanie Cutter is a sour-puss, lying scrunt?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (UOM48)
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http://is.gd/jPJdnU
The Twitter account managed by Ace of Spades, a conservative blog,
now declares that it is “[a]n account to remember the alleged victims of
Harry Reid, and those fresh victims inevitably to come.”
“If Harry Reid isn’t a pederast, why is everyone saying he is?” that
account tweeted Aug. 2. “People don’t just make up vicious smears for
political advantage.”
http://is.gd/jPJdnU
The Twitter account managed by Ace of Spades, a conservative blog,
now declares that it is “[a]n account to remember the alleged victims of
Harry Reid, and those fresh victims inevitably to come.”
“If Harry Reid isn’t a pederast, why is everyone saying he is?” that
account tweeted Aug. 2. “People don’t just make up vicious smears for
political advantage.”
Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (/kI1Q)
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No, I mean, come on. I don't have to be gay to note that a guy is
objectively good-looking. But not being inclined to be actually
attracted to men, I don't know if he's actually attractive to people
attracted to men.
So you're saying that you are heterosexual, don't have a gay in you? That's what I've been saying!
objectively good-looking. But not being inclined to be actually
attracted to men, I don't know if he's actually attractive to people
attracted to men.
So you're saying that you are heterosexual, don't have a gay in you? That's what I've been saying!
Posted by: Adam Smith at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (+lsX1)
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base v. base contest (which we could actually lose, as there are in fact more democrats than Republicans).
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So when polling shows more Conservatives in the country--they are unaffiliated?
Didn't know that.
Hell the South has Conservative super religious--Democrats.
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So when polling shows more Conservatives in the country--they are unaffiliated?
Didn't know that.
Hell the South has Conservative super religious--Democrats.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (r2PLg)
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OR, WA, NH, MN, and VT are in play for Romney.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (YdQQY)
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Wow...this is turning into the Mt Rushmore of Blumders, Somewhere Ms.Loose Lips Saul is thanking her luckyRINO stars.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (eavT+)
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which we could actually lose, as there are in fact more democrats than Republicans
Not when the silent majority shows up. IMO, Obama has irritated them enough that they'll show just to show him the door.
Not when the silent majority shows up. IMO, Obama has irritated them enough that they'll show just to show him the door.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (3Thg4)
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The best math teacher I ever had taught me Calculus. She was from the Yukatan Peninsula of Mexico and was mean as hell. Threw me out of her class for wisecracks 3 times. During the final test, she almost tossed me a 4th when I asked her if it was too late to drop the class.
Posted by: maddogg at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (OlN4e)
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Yes Paul Ryan is cute, dresses nice and above all is SMART. When talking to my 82 yr old mom about him, she said.. you know he reminds me of a Kennedy. Oy vey... I had to have a serious talk with her. But it did make me think.. hmmm.. I wonder how many other older women think that? That could be a plus since most people not paying attention have no clue how horrible Kennedy men are. If they still have this "camelot" vision in their heads about the Kennedy's it could work in his favor with independent older women.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (l/N7H)
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This is why having a Paul Ryan will help Romney. It gives the people something to voe for
Posted by: Carl at August 09, 2012 01:43 PM (ST0CS)
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204 Wow...this is turning into the Mt Rushmore of Blumders, Somewhere Ms.Loose Lips Saul is thanking her luckyRINO stars.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (eavT+)
Blumders? That's funny right there.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (eavT+)
Blumders? That's funny right there.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:43 PM (9TTOe)
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It's also important how many of them show up. Obama's strategy is to
disgust them from voting and have a base v. base contest (which we could
actually lose, as there are in fact more democrats than Republicans).
Based on Primary turnout, that's a baseless fear. Republicans are absolutely destroying Democrats in turnout at primaries- even when Democrats have contested primaries.
Now, some of that is because Republicans have a Presidential Primary and Democrats don't, but then look at what happened in WI- I'm just not seeing enough enthusiasm among Democrats to make a base v base contest any better for SCOAMT, and maybe worse.
disgust them from voting and have a base v. base contest (which we could
actually lose, as there are in fact more democrats than Republicans).
Based on Primary turnout, that's a baseless fear. Republicans are absolutely destroying Democrats in turnout at primaries- even when Democrats have contested primaries.
Now, some of that is because Republicans have a Presidential Primary and Democrats don't, but then look at what happened in WI- I'm just not seeing enough enthusiasm among Democrats to make a base v base contest any better for SCOAMT, and maybe worse.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 09, 2012 01:43 PM (8y9MW)
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> yes, he's turning people off, but he's turning people off from politics as a general matter, turning them off of voting, period. Which is his only hope.
Yes. Absolutely.
> He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on
entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run
on. ....
Perhaps, but when you win--if you win--it helps to be able to say this is what Americans said they wanted, especially if you're going to take on entitlements.
Yes. Absolutely.
> He's got some positives which are actually negatives: He's our leader on
entitlement reform, which is absolutely crucial, but dangerous to run
on. ....
Perhaps, but when you win--if you win--it helps to be able to say this is what Americans said they wanted, especially if you're going to take on entitlements.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 09, 2012 01:43 PM (J8gK5)
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Oh geez! The Daily Mail has a big spread about Moochelle visiting the Team U.S.A. and their"adorable children"at the Olympics at the top of the page and her "touching photo diary".
A little farther down the page is a story how Romney committed yet more gaffes: calling "Sikhs" "Sheiks" in a condolence speech for the tragedy that occurred earlier this week and also how he crashed a wedding.
"The Republican presidential candidate made the blunder whilst attending a
fundraiser in New Jersey at the same venue where an Orthodox Jewish wedding was
taking place. The moment Romney pulled up in his motorcade the bride and groom's
family 'abandoned' them and ran towards him. The happy couple were left standing
around as 10 of their loved ones desperately tried to take a photo of the
candidate."
That Mitt Romney is such a horrible, nasty man! Not only does he smite women with cancer, he ruins a woman's wedding--the most important day of a woman's life has been destroyed by Mitt Romney. Just when you think he can't go low enough, he does. And Michelle really is patriotic and loves America. She also loves children. And puppies...
I don't see how anyone can be undecided after this!
Oh geez! The Daily Mail has a big spread about Moochelle visiting the Team U.S.A. and their"adorable children"at the Olympics at the top of the page and her "touching photo diary".
A little farther down the page is a story how Romney committed yet more gaffes: calling "Sikhs" "Sheiks" in a condolence speech for the tragedy that occurred earlier this week and also how he crashed a wedding.
"The Republican presidential candidate made the blunder whilst attending a
fundraiser in New Jersey at the same venue where an Orthodox Jewish wedding was
taking place. The moment Romney pulled up in his motorcade the bride and groom's
family 'abandoned' them and ran towards him. The happy couple were left standing
around as 10 of their loved ones desperately tried to take a photo of the
candidate."
That Mitt Romney is such a horrible, nasty man! Not only does he smite women with cancer, he ruins a woman's wedding--the most important day of a woman's life has been destroyed by Mitt Romney. Just when you think he can't go low enough, he does. And Michelle really is patriotic and loves America. She also loves children. And puppies...
I don't see how anyone can be undecided after this!
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:44 PM (WGmy2)
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199 Has anyone noticed that Stephanie Cutter is a sour-puss, lying scrunt?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (UOM4
Yes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (UOM4
Yes.
Posted by: Mandy P., long-time lurker for dagny at August 09, 2012 01:44 PM (qFpRI)
Posted by: nickless at August 09, 2012 01:44 PM (MMC8r)
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Dems love the Ryan shoving wheelchair granny off the cliff ad.
Somehow Ryan has to get it through independents' heads that he doesn't want to kill Medicare.
Somehow Ryan has to get it through independents' heads that he doesn't want to kill Medicare.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:44 PM (UOM48)
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Since Ace has suddenly turned this into a latent ghey thread, I'd say, from what I know from a woman's point of view, is that there is older-man hot, and then there's younger-man hot. It'll appeal to all the wimmins.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (oMjsq)
*****
That actually works.
Still I think Rubio is so young looking that on a subconscious level--(which is what I think Ace was trying to get us to think about in an oxymoronic way...)
Rubio does not inspire confidence. IOW he looks too young to be President.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (oMjsq)
*****
That actually works.
Still I think Rubio is so young looking that on a subconscious level--(which is what I think Ace was trying to get us to think about in an oxymoronic way...)
Rubio does not inspire confidence. IOW he looks too young to be President.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:45 PM (r2PLg)
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Cabrera of the Tigers kills the Yankees like Manny Ramirez used to. He owns the Yankees
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:45 PM (05RcU)
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Jane D'oh:
>> Obama es un clusterfuck balbuceante de un fracaso
Awesome.
Obama es un socialisto incompetente.
Somos mejor que antes?
>> Obama es un clusterfuck balbuceante de un fracaso
Awesome.
Obama es un socialisto incompetente.
Somos mejor que antes?
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 01:45 PM (UwqBE)
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Yes Paul Ryan is cute, dresses nice and above all is SMART. When talking to my 82 yr old mom about him, she said.. you know he reminds me of a Kennedy. Oy vey... I had to have a serious talk with her.
Does he drive an Oldsmobile? Does he take Ambien?
Yes Paul Ryan is cute, dresses nice and above all is SMART. When talking to my 82 yr old mom about him, she said.. you know he reminds me of a Kennedy. Oy vey... I had to have a serious talk with her.
Does he drive an Oldsmobile? Does he take Ambien?
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:46 PM (WGmy2)
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207 Yes Paul Ryan is cute, dresses nice and above all is SMART. When talking to my 82 yr old mom about him, she said.. you know he reminds me of a Kennedy. Oy vey... I had to have a serious talk with her. But it did make me think.. hmmm.. I wonder how many other older women think that? That could be a plus since most people not paying attention have no clue how horrible Kennedy men are. If they still have this "camelot" vision in their heads about the Kennedy's it could work in his favor with independent older women.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (l/N7H)
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Woah that is interesting.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (l/N7H)
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Woah that is interesting.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:46 PM (r2PLg)
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Ace,
I tend to see the worst in every event. Not necessarily as my entire analysis, But certainly as a significant part of it. For instance, Every time the Yankees lose, a part of me is convinced that the season is over.
But I watched that attack ad and I saw nothing that wasn't transparent and manipulative.
Chicks might operate emotionally, but most of them will wonder in the back of their minds why this cocksucker didn't do more for his wife. He had insurance, but she didn't? Wow, that's a real man. What a great husband! They will connect the sniveling scumbag's behavior to Obama, and that might be a good thing for Romney!
And that is before the facts came out!
I tend to see the worst in every event. Not necessarily as my entire analysis, But certainly as a significant part of it. For instance, Every time the Yankees lose, a part of me is convinced that the season is over.
But I watched that attack ad and I saw nothing that wasn't transparent and manipulative.
Chicks might operate emotionally, but most of them will wonder in the back of their minds why this cocksucker didn't do more for his wife. He had insurance, but she didn't? Wow, that's a real man. What a great husband! They will connect the sniveling scumbag's behavior to Obama, and that might be a good thing for Romney!
And that is before the facts came out!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:46 PM (nEUpB)
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40 states. Can't be said enough.
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone evangelist at August 09, 2012 01:46 PM (YbQvR)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 09, 2012 01:46 PM (mFxQX)
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He looks like a Slavic Kennedy.
Posted by: tasker at August 09, 2012 01:46 PM (r2PLg)
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Wow...this is turning into the Mt Rushmore of Blumders, Somewhere Ms.Loose Lips Saul is thanking her luckyRINO stars. Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:42 PM (eavT+) Blumders? That's funny right there.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:43 PM (9TTOe)
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Yeah you know a "Blumder" its like a Blumkin without the nasty after taste.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:43 PM (9TTOe)
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Yeah you know a "Blumder" its like a Blumkin without the nasty after taste.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:47 PM (eavT+)
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OR, WA, NH, MN, and VT are in play for Romney.
I live in WA. No way. Also no way in OR. They are lost causes, CA north.
OR, WA, NH, MN, and VT are in play for Romney.
I live in WA. No way. Also no way in OR. They are lost causes, CA north.
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:47 PM (WGmy2)
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I have had seven college math Profs, all women. Men are dumber, period.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:47 PM (9TTOe)
Posted by: toby928© at August 09, 2012 01:47 PM (QupBk)
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"The Republican presidential candidate made the blunder whilst attending a fundraiser in New Jersey at the same venue where an Orthodox Jewish wedding was taking place. The moment Romney pulled up in his motorcade the bride and groom's family 'abandoned' them and ran towards him. The happy couple were left standing around as 10 of their loved ones desperately tried to take a photo of the candidate."
Far from a blunder, that's a truly encouraging sign. Of course, we know that Orthodox Jews lean right pretty heavily but it's nice to have a very public example here and there.
Far from a blunder, that's a truly encouraging sign. Of course, we know that Orthodox Jews lean right pretty heavily but it's nice to have a very public example here and there.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (X3lox)
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Of course, this is yet more proof (as if it were needed) that enfranchising the half of the population that most often makes decisions based on feelings and a need to feel taken-care-of was a BAD, STUPID, nation-killing move.
The 16th, 17th, and 18th amendments all came before the 19th.
Woodrow Wilson was elected and reelected before the 19th was ratified.
The 16th, 17th, and 18th amendments all came before the 19th.
Woodrow Wilson was elected and reelected before the 19th was ratified.
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (ogdab)
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Ace @79
Whether Ryan is appealing depends on a lot. I don't think women see men as hot/not hot based just on looks the way men do. Women have a lot of storyline wrapped up in whether someone is attractive. Which is why you see some woman gaga over freaky looking dudes like Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler.
I think wimmens pick presidents based on who looks like he can take care of things. So the fact that Ryan is kind of a nerd would probably work in his favor, because most women over 30 (voters) know, deep down, that the nerds end up making a good living and hot bad boy is going to leave you alone, in debt, and with 2 kids to take care of. Being a little older, like obviously 45, would probably work inRyan's favor too.
However, what would work best for the ticket with the wimmens would be somebody who can control a room and control a conversation. Somebody who can question the questioner and tell the media how it's going to be. Reagan was good at that, but I'm not sure the media openlyhated Republicans as much as they do now.
Whether Ryan is appealing depends on a lot. I don't think women see men as hot/not hot based just on looks the way men do. Women have a lot of storyline wrapped up in whether someone is attractive. Which is why you see some woman gaga over freaky looking dudes like Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler.
I think wimmens pick presidents based on who looks like he can take care of things. So the fact that Ryan is kind of a nerd would probably work in his favor, because most women over 30 (voters) know, deep down, that the nerds end up making a good living and hot bad boy is going to leave you alone, in debt, and with 2 kids to take care of. Being a little older, like obviously 45, would probably work inRyan's favor too.
However, what would work best for the ticket with the wimmens would be somebody who can control a room and control a conversation. Somebody who can question the questioner and tell the media how it's going to be. Reagan was good at that, but I'm not sure the media openlyhated Republicans as much as they do now.
Posted by: the other coyote at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (yK44T)
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that "sikh" and "sheik" gaffe is probably horsepoop
because I'll bet my leftnut that Romney knows enough to pronounce "sheik" as shake, not sheek, which just so happens to rhyme with 'sikh.'
so I give that gaffe story 4 Pinocchios
that "sikh" and "sheik" gaffe is probably horsepoop
because I'll bet my leftnut that Romney knows enough to pronounce "sheik" as shake, not sheek, which just so happens to rhyme with 'sikh.'
so I give that gaffe story 4 Pinocchios
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (9Q7Nu)
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Romney will win VA, OH, IA and Fl.
Only state I think is really in play is Wisconsin.
Michigan will do its usual stupidity.
Only state I think is really in play is Wisconsin.
Michigan will do its usual stupidity.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (DGIjM)
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Jane.. Mitt could counter with an ad of Obama pushing a wheelchair off a cliff with a giant map of the United States sitting in the chair.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 09, 2012 01:49 PM (l/N7H)
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Paul Ryan is a handsome man, but those rumors about him burning down his own puppy mill to collect the insurance money could hurt him with women voters.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 09, 2012 01:49 PM (+lsX1)
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Far from a blunder, that's a truly encouraging sign. Of course, we know that Orthodox Jews lean right pretty heavily but it's nice to have a very public example here and there.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (X3lox)
From what I read the bride and groom lean strongly to the tright
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 09, 2012 01:48 PM (X3lox)
From what I read the bride and groom lean strongly to the tright
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:49 PM (05RcU)
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@ #186. Men don't seem to understand the awesome power of a good forearm reveal.
Posted by: LASue at August 09, 2012 01:49 PM (wAhNv)
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Paul Ryan is toxic. Forget it. Name him VP and we lose. Just forget about Ryan.
Don't get me wrong. I like him, and I like most of his ideas.. but his stupid budget that had zero chance of passing, with its gutting of Medicare loses the elderly vote. And it doesn't matter if it even makes sense or not. You don't put out a proposal like that 1 year before a major election. It's like showing your hole cards before the Flop. That's something you do after you are in power and it has a chance to pass.
Don't get me wrong. I like him, and I like most of his ideas.. but his stupid budget that had zero chance of passing, with its gutting of Medicare loses the elderly vote. And it doesn't matter if it even makes sense or not. You don't put out a proposal like that 1 year before a major election. It's like showing your hole cards before the Flop. That's something you do after you are in power and it has a chance to pass.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (f9c2L)
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Mr. Soptic's wife worked for the IRS for 13 years before working for 5 years at the thrift store. Don't federal employees even former ones get gold plated benefits or was the husband just a cheap bastard?
Did she get any pension from the IRS? I want to know.
Did she smoke? I want to know.
Did she regularly go to the doctor? I want to know.
Did she meet the standard of obese by the federal government? I want to know.
I demand to know.
How do I know these things? The intarwebs.
Did she get any pension from the IRS? I want to know.
Did she smoke? I want to know.
Did she regularly go to the doctor? I want to know.
Did she meet the standard of obese by the federal government? I want to know.
I demand to know.
How do I know these things? The intarwebs.
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (iYbLN)
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I love how the CNN guy allowed Stephanie Liar Cutter to go on and on and on with absolutely no interruption or follow-up questions.
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (m95KA)
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nood (sidebar) post up
nood (sidebar) post up
Posted by: Soothsayer, Saying Today What Everyone Else Will Say Tomorrow, Since 2005 at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (9Q7Nu)
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Jumbo Shrimp:
>> I dont have any female friends who are voting Obama.
I don't have any female friends who are voting for Romney, as far as I know. Even though they're all pretty thoroughly disillusioned with Obama, Romney is "mean and out of touch".
Hey, I live in California.
>> I dont have any female friends who are voting Obama.
I don't have any female friends who are voting for Romney, as far as I know. Even though they're all pretty thoroughly disillusioned with Obama, Romney is "mean and out of touch".
Hey, I live in California.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (UwqBE)
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Which is why you see some woman gaga over freaky looking dudes like Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler.
They both make me want to vomit. Those women are deranged.
They both make me want to vomit. Those women are deranged.
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (X6akg)
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I would love it if about 95% of my female friends were in charge of all the political decisions for the entire US of A. Perhaps your time would be better spent examining your choice of "friends" rather than railing at half the population with flimsy anecdotal evidence.
Posted by: one pissed conservative female at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (whMsz)
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All matriarchal societies (granted - therehaven't been many)have failed. There's a reason for that. Also, if you look at the social spending charts, immediately after women's suffrage the chart ramps up dramatically and stays ramped up.
Posted by: one pissed conservative female at August 09, 2012 01:38 PM (whMsz)
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All matriarchal societies (granted - therehaven't been many)have failed. There's a reason for that. Also, if you look at the social spending charts, immediately after women's suffrage the chart ramps up dramatically and stays ramped up.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (xUM1Q)
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That's a sucker play when nobody is actually voting "for" Romney, rather against Obama.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (3Thg4)------------>>>As an unfortunate member of the underemployed, I'm currently tutoring physics at a community college. While the engineering/physics majors hate President Obama, the behavior of the general population is more telling. So far, I have seen zero hopey-changey t-shirts being worn and the SCOAMF has decended on Ohio multiple times.
That's a sucker play when nobody is actually voting "for" Romney, rather against Obama.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 09, 2012 01:31 PM (3Thg4)------------>>>As an unfortunate member of the underemployed, I'm currently tutoring physics at a community college. While the engineering/physics majors hate President Obama, the behavior of the general population is more telling. So far, I have seen zero hopey-changey t-shirts being worn and the SCOAMF has decended on Ohio multiple times.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at August 09, 2012 01:51 PM (xFgmp)
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CNN lets Cutter rant on and on with her lies. This is a group that will do anything and say anything to get him re-elected. No shame.
CNN lets Cutter rant on and on with her lies. This is a group that will do anything and say anything to get him re-elected. No shame.
Posted by: mike z at August 09, 2012 01:51 PM (vmyXX)
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@212 - See? Michelle Obama cares about people like you - because I am sure that her visit to the Olympic village was no disruptive in any way, Romney, not so much, because he did not bother to find out if somewhere he was going might also be a place where people cared more about him than their own children.
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Posted by: CJ at August 09, 2012 12:25 PM (9KqcB)
I think he is the real deal Catholic. He sleeps in his office and goes home on the weekend. I don't think he is the partying typel
I think he is the real deal Catholic. He sleeps in his office and goes home on the weekend. I don't think he is the partying typel
Posted by: madamex at August 09, 2012 01:51 PM (e9LVX)
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231 "what would work best for the ticket with the wimmens would be somebody
who can control a room and control a conversation. Somebody who can
question the questioner and tell the media how it's going to be"
But also not come across as a major league douchebag. Clinton had the gift of doing that and not coming across as the douchebag he truly is.
Newt Gingrich fits your description, but he comes across as a major league douchebag
who can control a room and control a conversation. Somebody who can
question the questioner and tell the media how it's going to be"
But also not come across as a major league douchebag. Clinton had the gift of doing that and not coming across as the douchebag he truly is.
Newt Gingrich fits your description, but he comes across as a major league douchebag
Posted by: The Q at August 09, 2012 01:51 PM (B/yDO)
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OR, WA, NH, MN, and VT are in play for Romney.
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (YdQQY)
Not a chance. He'll take NH because it's still an R state, but the others? Come on!
Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2012 01:41 PM (YdQQY)
Not a chance. He'll take NH because it's still an R state, but the others? Come on!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:52 PM (nEUpB)
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I'm afraid it can't be Ryan. The run-up to a huge election is not the time to be left defending a reality-based entitlement reduction plan. And if it's Ryan, that's all we'll be doing from now until election day.
If Mitt loses, he'll be well positioned to run for the top spot in 2016.
If Mitt loses, he'll be well positioned to run for the top spot in 2016.
Posted by: CJ at August 09, 2012 01:52 PM (9KqcB)
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Either way we are boned, nevertheless it is an existential proposition that we get rid of Obastard. The commie narcissistic balls on that guy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 09, 2012 01:52 PM (QK3qp)
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Barky ran in 2008 as a 'hero type'.
But now that charade is crumbling....and they're starting to see him as the smooth-talking cad that he really is.
Dennis Miller calls Choomie a grifter. I'd have to say Dennis is correct. I'd add grafter too.
Barky ran in 2008 as a 'hero type'.
But now that charade is crumbling....and they're starting to see him as the smooth-talking cad that he really is.
Dennis Miller calls Choomie a grifter. I'd have to say Dennis is correct. I'd add grafter too.
Posted by: runningrn at August 09, 2012 01:52 PM (WGmy2)
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"Which is why you see some woman gaga over freaky looking dudes like Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler"
I would also do them. No, seriously.
I would also do them. No, seriously.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:53 PM (Y2CR/)
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217 Cabrera of the Tigers kills the Yankees like Manny Ramirez used to. He owns the Yankees
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:45 PM (05RcU)
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I can't look.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2012 01:45 PM (05RcU)
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I can't look.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 09, 2012 01:53 PM (eavT+)
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They both make me want to vomit. Those women are deranged.
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (X6akg)
Jagger is probably worth $500,000,000.
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 01:50 PM (X6akg)
Jagger is probably worth $500,000,000.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:54 PM (nEUpB)
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He sleeps in his office and goes home on the weekend. I don't think he is the partying typel
You know else did that while in the Congress? Mark Sanford. Just sayin.
You know else did that while in the Congress? Mark Sanford. Just sayin.
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:54 PM (7vSU0)
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This Soptic guy is a piece of work.
Why didn't he go get another job in 5 years?
Why didn't his wife go get another job after her "injury"?
If they had creditable coverage under HIPPA, and it sounds like they both did, then the new employer's health insurance can't deny treatment for a pre-existing condition.
Why didn't she go to the doctor, even without insurance, and at least get checked out if she thought she was sick?
there's Medicaid and teaching hospitals and charity hospitals and medical financing to cover people without insurance. And emergency rooms, which our illegal population frequents DAILY without paying. My sis in law works at a children's hospital and half the cancer cases don't pay a dime (they won't even pay their deductible).
Or is this really Soptic lashing out at everyone else because he and his wife blew off her symptoms until it was too late... which, BTW, every pancreatic cancer victim I know has done... all with the same lousy result.
People with AWESOME insurance get diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer every day because (1) they had no symptoms until it was too late or (2) they blew off the warning signs because they were too busy. If you are sick in this country, you will get taken care of, even if you have no moneySoptic is just lying, probably out of some sense of guilt. And based on his previous ad appearances, it looks like misplaced guilt and envy all wrapped into one. I think the word I'm looking for is Scapegoat; Soptic blames Romney for his own failings in life.
Why didn't he go get another job in 5 years?
Why didn't his wife go get another job after her "injury"?
If they had creditable coverage under HIPPA, and it sounds like they both did, then the new employer's health insurance can't deny treatment for a pre-existing condition.
Why didn't she go to the doctor, even without insurance, and at least get checked out if she thought she was sick?
there's Medicaid and teaching hospitals and charity hospitals and medical financing to cover people without insurance. And emergency rooms, which our illegal population frequents DAILY without paying. My sis in law works at a children's hospital and half the cancer cases don't pay a dime (they won't even pay their deductible).
Or is this really Soptic lashing out at everyone else because he and his wife blew off her symptoms until it was too late... which, BTW, every pancreatic cancer victim I know has done... all with the same lousy result.
People with AWESOME insurance get diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer every day because (1) they had no symptoms until it was too late or (2) they blew off the warning signs because they were too busy. If you are sick in this country, you will get taken care of, even if you have no moneySoptic is just lying, probably out of some sense of guilt. And based on his previous ad appearances, it looks like misplaced guilt and envy all wrapped into one. I think the word I'm looking for is Scapegoat; Soptic blames Romney for his own failings in life.
Posted by: the other coyote at August 09, 2012 01:55 PM (yK44T)
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Jagger is probably worth $500,000,000.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:54 PM (nEUpB)
Heck I'd do him then.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:54 PM (nEUpB)
Heck I'd do him then.
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:55 PM (7vSU0)
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Soptic got a check, end of story.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:56 PM (9TTOe)
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Posted by: LASue at August 09, 2012 01:49 PM (wAhNv)
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I only ever chased one man in my life and it was because of his cotdam forearm. And that ended up to be a fun ride for about seven years. So yeah Team Romney, pick Ryan and unleash all the ads with rolled-up sleeve Ryan. He won't have to explain his budget away, all he'll have to do is flash that beguiling smile...
MONEY
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I only ever chased one man in my life and it was because of his cotdam forearm. And that ended up to be a fun ride for about seven years. So yeah Team Romney, pick Ryan and unleash all the ads with rolled-up sleeve Ryan. He won't have to explain his budget away, all he'll have to do is flash that beguiling smile...
MONEY
Posted by: kallisto at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (jm/9g)
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I would also do them. No, seriously.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:53 PM (Y2CR/)
Yeah.. I'd hit it too
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2012 01:53 PM (Y2CR/)
Yeah.. I'd hit it too
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (DGIjM)
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I think the word I'm looking for is Scapegoat; Soptic blames Romney for his own failings in life.
Posted by: the other coyote at August 09, 2012 01:55 PM (yK44T)
That isn't the way to play it. Look, you just don't care about this poor man and his wife, looking up all those facts and stuff.
Posted by: the other coyote at August 09, 2012 01:55 PM (yK44T)
That isn't the way to play it. Look, you just don't care about this poor man and his wife, looking up all those facts and stuff.
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (7vSU0)
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Reactionary:
>> Also, if you look at the social spending charts, immediately after women's suffrage the chart ramps up dramatically and stays ramped up.
True, but that's because women's suffrage was a positive side-effect of a generally malign influence. If you read "Liberal Fascism", it talks quite a bit about this stuff.
>> Also, if you look at the social spending charts, immediately after women's suffrage the chart ramps up dramatically and stays ramped up.
True, but that's because women's suffrage was a positive side-effect of a generally malign influence. If you read "Liberal Fascism", it talks quite a bit about this stuff.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (UwqBE)
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Did you ever notice how women will cut another one's throatfor taking an extra six inches of counter top space in an office? Romney needs to exploit that jealousy. Obama favors some women, but expects the others to fund the ones willing to sit on his lap.
Posted by: Invictos at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (OQpzc)
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The 16th, 17th, and 18th amendments all came before the 19th.
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Now that's some fucking math I can get into.
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Now that's some fucking math I can get into.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 01:58 PM (oMjsq)
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227 I have had seven college math Profs, all women. Men are dumber, period.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:47 PM (9TTOe)
LOL. You must really be pushing for something good there at home...
But seriously. Men invented practically everything. Developed every philosophical system work arguing over. Accomplished nearly every great deed that has been accomplished, and dominate every respected field. Though I conceed that there's one thing woman are better at - being mom.
Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at August 09, 2012 01:47 PM (9TTOe)
LOL. You must really be pushing for something good there at home...
But seriously. Men invented practically everything. Developed every philosophical system work arguing over. Accomplished nearly every great deed that has been accomplished, and dominate every respected field. Though I conceed that there's one thing woman are better at - being mom.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 01:59 PM (xUM1Q)
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@200 - oh, waah, the Harry Reid is a pederast thing isn't fair. No shit, that's the point!
Posted by: Golan Globus at August 09, 2012 02:00 PM (7vSU0)
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If Romney wins Vermont, I'm moving there.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 09, 2012 02:00 PM (mFxQX)
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Jagger is probably worth $500,000,000.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:54 PM (nEUpB)
So if I do him, will he give me ALL his money?
Nah....still not worth it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:54 PM (nEUpB)
So if I do him, will he give me ALL his money?
Nah....still not worth it.
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 02:00 PM (X6akg)
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CJ:
>> The run-up to a huge election is not the time to be left defending a reality-based entitlement reduction plan.
How sad is that?
We love to blame Obama, but really, it all comes down to dumb voters. It's depressing as hell that our country has to learn basic arithmetic the hard way.
>> The run-up to a huge election is not the time to be left defending a reality-based entitlement reduction plan.
How sad is that?
We love to blame Obama, but really, it all comes down to dumb voters. It's depressing as hell that our country has to learn basic arithmetic the hard way.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 02:01 PM (UwqBE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 02:01 PM (nEUpB)
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True, but that's because women's suffrage was a positive side-effect of a generally malign influence. If you read "Liberal Fascism", it talks quite a bit about this stuff.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (UwqBE)
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Positive side effect? Sounds more like a self-reinforcing system to me. Once the Left figured out that Uncle Sam could be used to replace a husband they knew they'd won. It was just a matter of time.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 01:57 PM (UwqBE)
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Positive side effect? Sounds more like a self-reinforcing system to me. Once the Left figured out that Uncle Sam could be used to replace a husband they knew they'd won. It was just a matter of time.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 02:02 PM (xUM1Q)
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Now that I think about it, there's only ONE thing that Obama does with any degree of competence--poison the well.
Posted by: Warden at August 09, 2012 02:02 PM (0DlnM)
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"So if I do him, will he give me ALL his money?
Nah....still not worth it."
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 02:00 PM (X6akg)
Yes...you are young and hot. But when you are old and decrepit you will regret not screwing the creepy old man with the large bank account!
Nah....still not worth it."
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 02:00 PM (X6akg)
Yes...you are young and hot. But when you are old and decrepit you will regret not screwing the creepy old man with the large bank account!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 02:03 PM (nEUpB)
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I wonder if Mr. Soptic got a pension after he was laid off.
Posted by: PJ at August 09, 2012 02:03 PM (DQHjw)
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This type of strategy didn't work so well for Dewhurst in Texas.
He tried the same type of thing against Cruz, the ad insinuating Cruz was responsible for the suicide of a troubled kid.
All it did was piss people off and galvanize them against Dewhurst.
He tried the same type of thing against Cruz, the ad insinuating Cruz was responsible for the suicide of a troubled kid.
All it did was piss people off and galvanize them against Dewhurst.
Posted by: catmman at August 09, 2012 02:04 PM (C8XlI)
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Not a chance. He'll take NH because it's still an R state, but the others? Come on!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:52 PM (nEUpB)
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As I've been saying. All bets are off for this election. Too much at stake, and every day more and more people are starting to realize this.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 01:52 PM (nEUpB)
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As I've been saying. All bets are off for this election. Too much at stake, and every day more and more people are starting to realize this.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 02:04 PM (oMjsq)
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We love to blame Obama, but really, it all comes down to dumb voters. It's depressing as hell that our country has to learn basic arithmetic the hard way.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 02:01 PM (UwqBE)
True. We say we want the truth, but we really don't. If a truth-speaker won a big election, politicians would use that model. But it doesn't happen.
I was actually thinking, if we were sure to lose, go for Ryan as VP, and we'll lose making a point. If we were way up in the polls, go for Ryan because he's ready to be pres and we could absorb the media hits. But, sadly, not in a close race.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 02:01 PM (UwqBE)
True. We say we want the truth, but we really don't. If a truth-speaker won a big election, politicians would use that model. But it doesn't happen.
I was actually thinking, if we were sure to lose, go for Ryan as VP, and we'll lose making a point. If we were way up in the polls, go for Ryan because he's ready to be pres and we could absorb the media hits. But, sadly, not in a close race.
Posted by: CJ at August 09, 2012 02:04 PM (9KqcB)
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So, should we be referring to this as a "voter suppression effort?"
Because it sounds like that's what it is.
Because it sounds like that's what it is.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2012 02:06 PM (bxiXv)
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All it did was piss people off and galvanize them against Dewhurst.Posted by: catmman at August 09, 2012 02:04 PM (C8XlI)..........................................That is true in my case. That was low.
Posted by: Invictos at August 09, 2012 02:07 PM (OQpzc)
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8 The fact that Mika was not-amused caused a couple of pigs to fly past my breakfast room window.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (UOM4
Wait, you have a separate room just for breakfast?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2012 01:08 PM (UOM4
Wait, you have a separate room just for breakfast?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2012 02:07 PM (bxiXv)
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All it did was piss people off and galvanize them against Dewhurst.
True DAT. And then was all magnanimous and said he would support Cruz in the election like that will make any fucking difference in result.
All it did was piss people off and galvanize them against Dewhurst.
True DAT. And then was all magnanimous and said he would support Cruz in the election like that will make any fucking difference in result.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 09, 2012 02:08 PM (mFxQX)
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They need to get Stephanie Cutter and Bill Burton out there on TV more.
I'm not sure which comes across as a more slimy bag-of-shit, but I'm thinking Burton appears as more just an asshole, where as Stephanie just comes across as the crass bitch you hate from work, or your sister-in-law who won't STFU and must get in the last word.
I'm not sure which comes across as a more slimy bag-of-shit, but I'm thinking Burton appears as more just an asshole, where as Stephanie just comes across as the crass bitch you hate from work, or your sister-in-law who won't STFU and must get in the last word.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at August 09, 2012 02:09 PM (Wa+Fw)
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Positive side effect? Sounds more like a self-reinforcing system to me. Once the Left figured out that Uncle Sam could be used to replace a husband they knew they'd won. It was just a matter of time.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 02:02 PM (xUM1Q)
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One of the reasons for the feminist movement. "You don't need a man. The government will take care of you".
None of this would matter, however, if the voting laws of this country could be changed so that only land/real estate/business owners would be allowed to vote.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 09, 2012 02:02 PM (xUM1Q)
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One of the reasons for the feminist movement. "You don't need a man. The government will take care of you".
None of this would matter, however, if the voting laws of this country could be changed so that only land/real estate/business owners would be allowed to vote.
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 02:10 PM (oMjsq)
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Most lung cancer isn't diagnosed until too late. People don't want to admit they are sick and they don't want to know. If you had a spouse who gave a damn they would drag you to the doctor whether you wanted to go or not.
There is also this little know program called MEDICAID you fucking douchebag.
What a bitter, nasty person. I bet Soptic's personality has always been this way. Bitter and angry at other people his whole life. He just looks like a glass half empty kind of guy.
There is also this little know program called MEDICAID you fucking douchebag.
What a bitter, nasty person. I bet Soptic's personality has always been this way. Bitter and angry at other people his whole life. He just looks like a glass half empty kind of guy.
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:13 PM (iYbLN)
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Wait, you have a separate room just for breakfast?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
Merovign,
Jane lives in the South. Of course she has a separate room for breakfast. She probably has servants! Quelle horror!!!!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith
Merovign,
Jane lives in the South. Of course she has a separate room for breakfast. She probably has servants! Quelle horror!!!!
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:15 PM (iYbLN)
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What a bitter, nasty person. I bet Soptic's personality has always been this way. Bitter and angry at other people his whole life. He just looks like a glass half empty kind of guy.
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:13 PM (iYbLN)
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He's the guy selling the cursed car to the kid in the book (not the movie) "Christine".
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:13 PM (iYbLN)
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He's the guy selling the cursed car to the kid in the book (not the movie) "Christine".
Posted by: Soona at August 09, 2012 02:16 PM (oMjsq)
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Merovign,
Jane lives in the South. Of course she has a separate room for breakfast. She probably has servants! Quelle horror!!!!
Doesn't everyone?
Merovign,
Jane lives in the South. Of course she has a separate room for breakfast. She probably has servants! Quelle horror!!!!
Doesn't everyone?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 09, 2012 02:17 PM (mFxQX)
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Yes...you are young and hot. But when you are old
and decrepit you will regret not screwing the creepy old man with the
large bank account!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 02:03 PM (nEUpB)
Young and hot?! Bwahahahahaha! You're my new best friend!
and decrepit you will regret not screwing the creepy old man with the
large bank account!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 02:03 PM (nEUpB)
Young and hot?! Bwahahahahaha! You're my new best friend!
Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2012 02:19 PM (X6akg)
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Jane lives in the South. Of course she has a separate room for breakfast. She probably has servants! Quelle horror!!!!
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:15 PM (iYbLN)
That's it, I'm moving!
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:15 PM (iYbLN)
That's it, I'm moving!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2012 02:19 PM (bxiXv)
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you will regret not screwing the creepy old man with the
large bank account!
I don't regret it. I did.
large bank account!
I don't regret it. I did.
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:22 PM (iYbLN)
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Most lung cancer isn't diagnosed until too late.
People don't want to admit they are sick and they don't want to know. If
you had a spouse who gave a damn they would drag you to the doctor
whether you wanted to go or not.
There is also this little know program called MEDICAID you fucking douchebag.
What
a bitter, nasty person. I bet Soptic's personality has always been this
way. Bitter and angry at other people his whole life. He just looks
like a glass half empty kind of guy.
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:13 PM (iYbLN)
My mom died on medicaid in ohio.....
This ad had me spitting iron, I could sell my sould and piss on hers by wailing about "the government said her care wold be as good as anyone elses'......Barack Obama killed my mama!"
it is a lot more complicated than that....but hey if we are gonna be in the dystopic fairytale of angst campaign mode anything goes right?
Mom passed shortly after 9/11 was mentally ill and asked to be taken off chemo after her mom died....
but who's to know bambi didn't have a time machine back in 2001 to force death panels on my mama?The evil and stupidity of these grifting bastards know no bounds....
People don't want to admit they are sick and they don't want to know. If
you had a spouse who gave a damn they would drag you to the doctor
whether you wanted to go or not.
There is also this little know program called MEDICAID you fucking douchebag.
What
a bitter, nasty person. I bet Soptic's personality has always been this
way. Bitter and angry at other people his whole life. He just looks
like a glass half empty kind of guy.
Posted by: mpfs at August 09, 2012 02:13 PM (iYbLN)
My mom died on medicaid in ohio.....
This ad had me spitting iron, I could sell my sould and piss on hers by wailing about "the government said her care wold be as good as anyone elses'......Barack Obama killed my mama!"
it is a lot more complicated than that....but hey if we are gonna be in the dystopic fairytale of angst campaign mode anything goes right?
Mom passed shortly after 9/11 was mentally ill and asked to be taken off chemo after her mom died....
but who's to know bambi didn't have a time machine back in 2001 to force death panels on my mama?The evil and stupidity of these grifting bastards know no bounds....
Posted by: sven10077 at August 09, 2012 02:23 PM (LRFds)
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Wait, you have a separate room just for breakfast?Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2012 02:07 PM (bxiXv)...........................Doesn't everyone? We use the east facing solarium. With some extra braces we can even skin a hobo in the light of the rising sun, if the hunt runs long.
Wait, you have a separate room just for breakfast?Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2012 02:07 PM (bxiXv)...........................Doesn't everyone? We use the east facing solarium. With some extra braces we can even skin a hobo in the light of the rising sun, if the hunt runs long.
Posted by: Invictos at August 09, 2012 02:27 PM (OQpzc)
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Romney is not doing well he is not going to win even rasmussen shows that to be a fact
Posted by: occam at August 09, 2012 02:27 PM (4+lE0)
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With some extra braces we can even skin a hobo in the light of the rising sun, if the hunt runs long.
Posted by: Invictos at August 09, 2012 02:27 PM (OQpzc)
Good times, good times.
Posted by: Invictos at August 09, 2012 02:27 PM (OQpzc)
Good times, good times.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2012 02:28 PM (bxiXv)
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Ace,
I don't find Paul Ryan all that attractive. But then I didn't think Obama was handome either and apparently a lot of women do. Mitt Romney is VERY attractive, so he doesn't really need to go for the looks with a running mate IMO. But picking a good-looking guy could produce some great visuals like Clinton and Gore got in 1992.
I don't find Paul Ryan all that attractive. But then I didn't think Obama was handome either and apparently a lot of women do. Mitt Romney is VERY attractive, so he doesn't really need to go for the looks with a running mate IMO. But picking a good-looking guy could produce some great visuals like Clinton and Gore got in 1992.
Posted by: rockmom at August 09, 2012 02:36 PM (NYnoe)
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Romney is not doing well he is not going to win even rasmussen shows that to be a fact
Posted by: occam at August 09, 2012 02:27 PM (4+lE0)
Right that is why Grifter Jesus has been concentrating on his accomplishments and acting as vacuous and airheadedly retarded as he did last time right?
Your guys' behavior shows he KNOWS turnout is more like '10 than '08 scooter
Romney is not doing well he is not going to win even rasmussen shows that to be a fact
Posted by: occam at August 09, 2012 02:27 PM (4+lE0)
Right that is why Grifter Jesus has been concentrating on his accomplishments and acting as vacuous and airheadedly retarded as he did last time right?
Your guys' behavior shows he KNOWS turnout is more like '10 than '08 scooter
Posted by: sven10077 at August 09, 2012 02:36 PM (LRFds)
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In trying to justify this ad, Bill Burton is actually arguing that Mitt Romney is responsible to take care of Joe Whatshisnuts and Family for the rest of his life because of a contractual agreement. If I were Romney I would not be pissed about this ad, I'd be thankful for it and Bill Burton for the explanation of Obamanomics - straight from their own mouths.
In trying to justify this ad, Bill Burton is actually arguing that Mitt Romney is responsible to take care of Joe Whatshisnuts and Family for the rest of his life because of a contractual agreement. If I were Romney I would not be pissed about this ad, I'd be thankful for it and Bill Burton for the explanation of Obamanomics - straight from their own mouths.
Posted by: Hutch at August 09, 2012 02:36 PM (fxA1Z)
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This Cutter woman (nomen est omen) is making it retract into my body cavity.
Posted by: Guido at August 09, 2012 02:40 PM (0pSJD)
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Does anyone else think Reactionary has a very small, and very limp, penis?
Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 09, 2012 02:44 PM (17FRN)
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Oh, and you're wrong about the intent of that ad, it's not tryong to target women, it's really just a ratcheting up of the previous Joe Soptic attack on Romney and Bain Capital. They're trying to drive home to blue-collar white men that Romney is the guy that laid them off, or sent their job to China, or took over their plant and cut their wages, and he doesn't understand the misery he has left in his wake. I think Bill Burton might be genuinely surprised at the blowback on this ad, and he might actually believe it was not intended to imply that Mitt Romney killed Joe Soptic's wife. In other words, he fucked up with this ad, just as much as Obama fucked up with his "you didn't build that" speech.
Posted by: rockmom at August 09, 2012 02:44 PM (NYnoe)
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occam - "Romney is not doing well he is not going to win even rasmussen shows that to be a fact".
Rasmussen has Romney up 4 and Romney hasn't even been able to spend his campaign cash. I have to hand it to Occam, however. Such a strong statement despite the absence of any facts.
Rasmussen has Romney up 4 and Romney hasn't even been able to spend his campaign cash. I have to hand it to Occam, however. Such a strong statement despite the absence of any facts.
Posted by: Spike at August 09, 2012 02:46 PM (TdwGH)
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Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 09, 2012 02:44 PM (17FRN)
I have never pondered the mysteries of his penis.
I stopped thinking about him when I realized that he is a fucking psychopath.
I have never pondered the mysteries of his penis.
I stopped thinking about him when I realized that he is a fucking psychopath.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2012 02:47 PM (nEUpB)
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rockmom:
>> They're trying to drive home to blue-collar white men that
Romney is the guy that laid them off, or sent their job to China, or
took over their plant and cut their wages
Totally agree.
They're not even competent enough to do class warfare right. Obama has zero managerial experience, with predictable consequences.
>> They're trying to drive home to blue-collar white men that
Romney is the guy that laid them off, or sent their job to China, or
took over their plant and cut their wages
Totally agree.
They're not even competent enough to do class warfare right. Obama has zero managerial experience, with predictable consequences.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 02:51 PM (UwqBE)
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"Soptic's wife was white and female (presumably as to the former, required by the then-existing laws for the latter)"
I saw what you did there.
I saw what you did there.
Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at August 09, 2012 02:53 PM (g9neE)
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"Media Actually Bothered By Obama's Malignant Ad"
Isn't this where they pick some meaninglessside-issue to get all spun up about - something that doesn't matter?
Like when Obama bombed Libya without consulting Congress, "bombing some hapless arab country out of racism and lust for oil", ousting some dictator "who has the right to survive", all like the "evil dictator George W Bush", and they complained loudly and bitterly about how much itCOST -$1B (yes, with a "B", not a "T").
Isn't this where they pick some meaninglessside-issue to get all spun up about - something that doesn't matter?
Like when Obama bombed Libya without consulting Congress, "bombing some hapless arab country out of racism and lust for oil", ousting some dictator "who has the right to survive", all like the "evil dictator George W Bush", and they complained loudly and bitterly about how much itCOST -$1B (yes, with a "B", not a "T").
Posted by: Optimizer at August 09, 2012 02:55 PM (As94z)
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Hate to be late to the discussion, but if THIS is his best strategy, I hope he is working on that Speaker's Bureau contract, because he will need it in Feb 2013.
Being that his wife hasn't been pulling in the big buck, ya know.
Being that his wife hasn't been pulling in the big buck, ya know.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 09, 2012 03:01 PM (UNbFx)
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Don't knock that voter turnout stuff. We had a Republican primary Tuesday here in Wichita for Sheriff, District Attorney and some judges and state legislatures that normally would not get more than 12-14%. Instead we got about 21% which is unheard of for a primary of this type.
Posted by: Samuel Adams at August 09, 2012 03:13 PM (ZOf1l)
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Remember folks, we already know Ace has a giant crush on Rubio. After all, Rubio had to take out that restraining order on him in 2010.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 09, 2012 03:23 PM (UNbFx)
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I hope a Romney surrogate goes nuclear. Create an ad with a person identifed as an independent voter talking about all the jobs Obama has destroyed in the coal industry and in general. Hammer home the crushing debt and the indifference to individual accomplishment that is the hallmark of our Dear Leader. Bring up the lies and distortions surrounding Obama's gutting of welfare reform. Build these up to the election. A week before the election, release a reworked ad with the tagline: "We can't sit this one out. We can't take four more years of this."
In short, if they try to make people hate Romney, show them they can't afford that hate.
In short, if they try to make people hate Romney, show them they can't afford that hate.
Posted by: Glen at August 09, 2012 03:24 PM (K1CbB)
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#251: Romney has supported Ryan's entitlement reform plan since the beginning; it's too late to worry about that being something that can be used to attack him. He already has been attacked for it. I don't think it'd hurt Romney to have the guy who can best explain the planon his ticket.
Posted by: Eddie Willers at August 09, 2012 03:26 PM (bRdb3)
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The dog on the car meme is definitely to drive white single voters away form Romney.
No matter how shitty a job a white woman has in the Obama economy, and how shitty her prospects are, she will still not vote for Romney because of the dog thing. [Im referring to the typical white female undecided/lean democrat voter]
No matter how shitty a job a white woman has in the Obama economy, and how shitty her prospects are, she will still not vote for Romney because of the dog thing. [Im referring to the typical white female undecided/lean democrat voter]
Posted by: Tee Zieldors at August 09, 2012 03:38 PM (lBFxV)
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Romney'12: Never ate Dog.
Posted by: toby928© at August 09, 2012 03:40 PM (evdj2)
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I bet you anything that Obama never ate a dog, either. But having told the lie, he's stuck with it.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 09, 2012 03:49 PM (UwqBE)
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Just wait until a pro-Romney Super PAC ad does some uncomfortable truth and the Obama team has lies that link the Romney team direct to it. They already have the press released typed just need the date and the Super PAC.
Posted by: TJexcite at August 09, 2012 03:53 PM (3qeX5)
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Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2012 04:20 PM (6o4Fb)
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The thing is I think more people have heard about the lies and how this ad was full of crap that saw the ad.
No matter how shitty a job a white woman has in the Obama economy, and how shitty her prospects are, she will still not vote for Romney because of the dog thing.
Yeah, dog lovers are REALLY dog lovers, and more than a few would consider the election a done deal based on that alone. He was mean to his dog, I'll NEVER vote for him!
No matter how shitty a job a white woman has in the Obama economy, and how shitty her prospects are, she will still not vote for Romney because of the dog thing.
Yeah, dog lovers are REALLY dog lovers, and more than a few would consider the election a done deal based on that alone. He was mean to his dog, I'll NEVER vote for him!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 09, 2012 05:18 PM (r4wIV)
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I don't get this analysis. If O makes himself so disgusting in his ads by accusing Mitt of murder, that doesn't turn people off politics, it turns them off O. Nothing happens in a vacuum and Mitt will be running positive ads about himself simultaneously. Mitt is selling himself and not disgusting people.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at August 09, 2012 06:00 PM (KL49F)
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oh come on. the negative ads work and they have worked. obama has been running them non stop in battleground states. he's defined romney as a gordon gecko, the guy that fired ya, the reason why you are out of a job, the reason you lost your house, etc., and the people that don't follow politics, who are easily distracted by shiny things, well, they buy this crap. they see the sob story, the personal anecdote, and they feel sorry for the guy. romney's people have blown it by being too nice, naive, and by thinking that they can run ads saying things like, "i'll put people back to work,"etc. while obama's minions are painting a really decent man as the vulture capitalist incarnate. it's worked! we all knew obama would do this, so why wasn't the romney campaign prepared for it? why weren't they on the attack? why haven't they attacked first, hard, and blasted obama in the battleground states? why? because they are running a campaign against a clinton or an al gore. they don't get that smear is the name of the game now, and that obama will do anything to - lie, cheat, distort - hold onto power. just wait till obama gets done with a second term. you won't even recognize this country when he's done with it. and the republican establishment has no one to blame but themselves. they have a duty to save this country from the very damaging and dangerous ideology of this megalomaniac, and they have shirked their responsibility. i mean, this is the party of lincoln for christ's sake! this is the party that was started will the purpose of ending slavery, and they've allowed the leftists to turn them into the party of bigotry? wow...all i can say is...wow. what incompetence, and what a tragedy for this nation.
Posted by: mistress overdone at August 10, 2012 08:26 AM (2/oBD)
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why didn't the romney campaign go find some people that have lost jobs and make an add of their own? where are the ads featuring GM dealers that lost their dealerships? where are they? where are the response ads that feature the details of how obama has been playing dirty politics since he first started? where is the ad that shows that obama is doing the same thing he did to his opponents in illinois? obama actually had the gall to leak divorce documents, and he even challenged the signatures of his opponents! hello! do an ad that shows, blow by blow, that is nothing new, and that this is what obama does...AND SPEND GAZILLIONS RUNNING THE ADS OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN BATTLE GROUND STATES. oh, but we don't want to "stoop to their level," and my personal favorite, "the truth is on our side." WELL THE TRUTH MAY BE ON YOUR SIDE BUT NO ONE IS GOING TO KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS UNTIL YOU TELL 'EM.
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