Hey, Who's Up For A "Obama's Probably Going To Win In A Landslide" Story?

"Reporting" deep from the liberal cocoon public fool Michael Tomasky (you remember him from "Saying ObamaCare To the NAACP is Racist" and "Mitt the Wimp"-safe links) takes a look at a closely divide country facing 8+% unemployment, stagnant growth, debt as far as the eye can see and decides, yeah, the country wants 4 more years of this! (as per HQ policy, no links for idiots).

There’s a secret lurking behind everything you’re reading about the upcoming election, a secret that all political insiders know—or should—but few are talking about, most likely because it takes the drama out of the whole business. The secret is the electoral college, and the fact is that the more you look at it, the more you come to conclude that Mitt Romney has to draw an inside straight like you’ve never ever seen in a movie to win this thing. This is especially true now that it seems as if Pennsylvania isn’t really up for grabs. Romney’s paths to 270 are few.

...

So if Pennsylvania is off the boards [for Romney], let’s look around. Imagine it’s election night, say 10:45 east coast time. Four eastern states haven’t been called yet: Ohio (1, Virginia (13), North Carolina (15), and Florida (29). Also, in some Western states, the polls haven’t closed, or the races are too tight to project just yet—Colorado and Nevada, say. Arizona has just been called for Romney. At this point, Romney actually leads, 188 to 182. In this scenario I’m assuming Obama has won Iowa (6), which is admittedly close but where his lead has been stable at three or four points, and New Hampshire (4), where Obama has a similar fairly small but stable lead, and Michigan (16), where the gap appears to be opening up a little.

So it’s a six-vote Romney edge. They’re feeling great up in Boston. Especially with the big Eastern four still up in the air. Right?

Not really. Let’s look at these West Coast states. Even though they’re still voting in California, obviously Obama is going to win it (55). And equally obviously, he’s going to win Washington (12) and Oregon (7), where neither side even bothered to spend a dime. Throw in Hawaii (4). Those 78 votes haul Obama up to 260. That’s something to keep in mind for election night: Whatever Obama’s number is at 10 pm Eastern, add those 78 EV’s—they’re a mortal lock, and a hefty insurance policy. If he wins Nevada (6) and Colorado (9), it’s over.

I've never seen someone so eager to make a fool of themselves in public as Tomasky is. One can only hope that other Democrats are just as stupid.

You can make a case that Obama will win in a close race but a landslide? No.

First of all, there's no state that was red last time that Obama will win this time, so any win is going to be smaller than before. Much smaller. So right there landslide is off the table.

More to the point, I just did a quick look at the Electoral College map (which you can purchase for your Android or Kindle Fire) and it's pretty easy to see Mitt winning, even without Pennsylvania or Virginia.

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You can play around with the ap to build a case for a close win by Mitt or even a blowout and a tight win by Obama but that's about it.

I'm not saying Mitt's a lock to win but if the proposition is, who is more likely to win in a landslidee, all my money goes on Mitt.

Posted by: DrewM. at 09:24 AM



Comments

1 Ask them if the ballot machines can go to 110%.

Posted by: Acorn Fraud Engineer at August 06, 2012 09:28 AM (GQ8sn)

2
Those fingers in my hair.
That sly
come hither stare
that strips my conscience bare
it's wishcast....

Posted by: Zombie Frank Sinatra at August 06, 2012 09:28 AM (UuLBC)

3 "(as per HQ policy, no links for idiots)"


Does that include the entirety of MSNBC?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 09:28 AM (eoedh)

4 I've never seen someone so eager to make a fool of themselves in public as Tomasky is.

Matt Yglesias and Ezra Klein will be happy to accept that challenge.
I love how shocked and amazed the Dems are every four years when that whole pesky electoral college thing appears. It seems to take them by surprise each time.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 09:29 AM (VtjlW)

5 I think Mitt will grab PA and VA.

And let the Dem's behave like Baghdad Bob in the Furherbunker.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 06, 2012 09:30 AM (ykj3v)

6 Short and stupid is no way to go thru life, son.

Posted by: Forrest Stump at August 06, 2012 09:31 AM (oCMdU)

7
I am proud to accept the nomination for President of Normal America.

Posted by: El Mitto at August 06, 2012 09:31 AM (UuLBC)

8 I cannot contemplate a world where Obama is rewarded with a second term so early in the morning.

Please make the bad maps go away!

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 06, 2012 09:31 AM (06lNq)

9 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 09:32 AM (8y9MW)

10

Might want to delete #261 in the last post. It's pretty nasty.

Posted by: *need more coffee at August 06, 2012 09:33 AM (HOOye)

11 Tomasky has been reading Nate Silver, evidently.

Posted by: andrew at August 06, 2012 09:33 AM (65QIv)

12 "...and the fact is that the more you look at it, the more you come to
conclude that Mitt Romney has to draw an inside straight like you’ve
never ever seen in a movie to win this thing."

This is what a "fact" looks like to a dumbocrat?

Surreality based community. Stealing my air.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 06, 2012 09:34 AM (ksERZ)

13 Didn't someone here guarantee a landslide?

Posted by: Gerry at August 06, 2012 09:34 AM (0LIYH)

14 As Ace likes to say, Wishcasting.

Mitt had another 100 million month of fundraising, I can't wait until after the convention where he can actually start spending it....and burying JEF with commercials.

FBHO.

Posted by: RarestRX at August 06, 2012 09:34 AM (9ct4e)

15 I'm not convinced PA isn't in play. Or MI, or hell...even NV.

But I've always wondered - why is NH red up their in that cesspool of blue?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 09:35 AM (eoedh)

16 The Tax Policy Center--a "non-partisan" child of the Brookings Institute, has published a study of the Romney tax cuts,which apparently concludes that Romney's "tax cuts for the rich" will require that taxes be raised on the middle class." This seems to be all over the left end of media, but I haven't seen any Romney or conservative response, which worries me.

Posted by: Burke at August 06, 2012 09:35 AM (9N3G1)

17 This storey agrees with everything I see and read. America loves President Obama and hates that idiot Romney because he is living in the stupid and racist 1950's. We loves President Obama and know he will win with over 50 states. America's brest days our ahead and that is keeping president Obama as our leader.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at August 06, 2012 09:35 AM (48wze)

18 They said all the same shit for Jimmy Crater back in the day. But you could tell the internals were bad because the Dems came rel close to running him off the ticket.


There is talk of that same thing now with Obama.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 09:36 AM (YdQQY)

19 16 Burke,

to a moonbat economics is a zero sum game.....

they'll have to explain the math of "extending the status quo ante" being a tax raise on anyone....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 06, 2012 09:37 AM (LRFds)

20 Ask them if the ballot machines can go to 110%.

Posted by: Acorn Fraud Engineer at August 06, 2012 09:28 AM (GQ8sn)


Diebold design standards already include a 110% over-capacity for machines ordered by Dem precincts.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 06, 2012 09:37 AM (Cnqmv)

21 Here's an idea for Mitt's big cash pile ...


For election day, hold "bum parties" to get them off the streets in places like Philly and
Detroit and Milwaukee. Don’t pay them to vote - that's illegal. Just rent some empty warehouses and pay for bums to be sequestered
and fed, away from a polling center and
democrat hands. Depending on size of location and economies to be had, my guess is around $20-30 per bum for
rent, chow, security, porta-potties, and cleaning.

Posted by: Uncledave at August 06, 2012 09:37 AM (nJ32z)

22
America's brest days our ahead? How do you slur in an online post?

Posted by: Get off the sauce, lady at August 06, 2012 09:37 AM (UuLBC)

23 Short and stupid is no way to go thru life, son.

HEY!

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 09:38 AM (VtjlW)

24 Romney takes both PA and VA. NV would have to be pretty damn retarded for vote for JEF again considering what their economy is doing. If there is to be a landslide I believe Romney will be on the receiving end of it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 06, 2012 09:39 AM (jucos)

25
$20-30 per bum for

rent, chow, security, porta-potties, and cleaning.

***

I think you're gonna need a dog-catcher, too, Uncle Dave.

Posted by: Fido Sanchez, Registered Voter at August 06, 2012 09:39 AM (UuLBC)

26 Posted by: Fido Sanchez, Registered Voter at August 06, 2012 09:39 AM (UuLBC)

And a mortician!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 06, 2012 09:40 AM (Cnqmv)

27 I'd rather have a tread about hemorrhoids than even think what some liberal thinks about the election. But that's just me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 09:40 AM (05RcU)

28 I'd say he was delusional, but in reality he knows better. He knows that in reality Obama is in deep, DEEP, trouble. This is one of the ways the left attempts (often with success) to demoralize the right. We've got enough Eeyores on our side to eat it up though, usually.

Posted by: Mr. Estrada at August 06, 2012 09:41 AM (a/Pps)

29 18 They said all the same shit for Jimmy Crater back in the day. But you could tell the internals were bad because the Dems came rel close to running him off the ticket.

There is talk of that same thing now with Obama.
Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 09:36 AM (YdQQY)


This brings up a good point. I know many registered Democrats that are going to vote for Mitt.

I would bet they assume all Dems will vote for O. This year, it may very well be a disaster, even if 0.5%.

Posted by: *need more coffee at August 06, 2012 09:41 AM (HOOye)

30 Anyone foolish enough to attempt to project a Presidential race this far out deserves whatever ridicule and scorn they get.

And I am old enough to remember similar type of "the Democrat has it locked up" articles in 1980, 1988 and 2000.................

I also remember Lee Atwater declaring that the GOP had a lock in the White House with their South and West strategy.

Wake me when the conventions are over and then we can see where we are.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 09:41 AM (OWjjx)

31 Ohio is making me nervous as all hell. I live here.

Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (7vA7k)

32 "This seems to be all over the left end of media, but I haven't seen any Romney or conservative response, which worries me.

Posted by: Burke at August 06, 2012 09:35 AM (9N3G1)"


Heard that on NPR the other day and then some callers into conservative talk radio shows.

I'm at least surprised there hasn't been a response yet. It's best to jump up and down on this shit and stomp it to death before it gets legs.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (eoedh)

33 If you are cheap like I am, you can play with the numbers at this web site:

http://www.270towin.com/

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (nEUpB)

34 JEF's approval is at 44%. I even think that number is high. Call it the Bradley/Wilder effect. The real rate is probably in the mid 30's.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (jucos)

35 This seems to be all over the left end of media, but I haven't seen any Romney or conservative response, which worries me.

Ummm, didn't Romney call thata lie?

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (VtjlW)

36 Let me repeat this:

OBAMA IS RUNNING ADS IN PENNSYLVANIA. Lots of them. negatuve and positive ones.

Either this is a very expensive feint, or Tomasky is full of shit.

Posted by: rockmom at August 06, 2012 09:44 AM (aBlZ1)

37 Isn't being painfully stupid a prerequisite to be a Demotard these days?

Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2012 09:44 AM (OlN4e)

38 And all of the comfortable leads he predicates his thesis on are from polls that over sample Democrats..............

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 09:45 AM (OWjjx)

39 I mean, look at Mary from fuckhead, VT. That has got to fucking hurt.

Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2012 09:45 AM (OlN4e)

40 31
Ohio is making me nervous as all hell. I live here.


Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (7vA7k)

Ohio has Obama worried... Panicked. Something his campaign is seeing there is bad news for them. That's why he is trying to get the courts to grant him a few extra days for absentee voting that his staff can use to manufacture votes.

Posted by: f2000 at August 06, 2012 09:45 AM (39FoH)

41 @38- thank you Mallamutt, for being the first to point this out.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at August 06, 2012 09:46 AM (ksERZ)

42 Looks like the WaPo story on David Plouffe has some legs, it's getting picked up now on talk radio and on the radio news as well.

Posted by: rockmom at August 06, 2012 09:46 AM (aBlZ1)

43 Is it too late to do something about this California place?

Posted by: Holger Awakens at August 06, 2012 09:46 AM (D6Wgw)

44 31 TDPwells,

which part?

the "Bury saved GM" crap is not working in Dayton for obvious reasons....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 06, 2012 09:46 AM (LRFds)

45 And think about this, at least 6 of the blue states went (R) for Governor since 2009 (NV, NM, VA, NJ, MI, ME)

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at August 06, 2012 09:46 AM (8BaAK)

46 Ohio has Obama worried... Panicked. Something his
campaign is seeing there is bad news for them. That's why he is trying
to get the courts to grant him a few extra days for absentee voting that
his staff can use to manufacture votes.


Posted by: f2000 at August 06, 2012 09:45 AM (39FoH)
Well I wish they'd share it with the rest of us so I can sleep better.

Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 09:47 AM (7vA7k)

47 Gosh I hope my little Granite State goes red in this election. The only things that will keep that from happening are:

A) We have a wide open gubernatorial election this year, since Gov. Lynch isn't running for another term. Lynch was fairly bland and non-threatening, so despite being a Dem he never really faced a solid challenger from the 'pub side. The Dems are going to want to hold onto the Governor's seat, especially given the spanking they got in the state legislature in 2010. I don't think this year's state elections are going to be as vividly red as they were in '10, but it definitely put the Dems on guard.

and

B) Voter fraud. We border wacky Mass, granola-crunchy Vermont, and "wait, are we socialist or not?" Maine, not to mention we've got the regressive bastion of Dartmouth up there in the upper valley. Voter fraud is a very real threat.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 09:47 AM (4df7R)

48 I'm just glad to see that Vermont is solidly blue. Me and my neighbors here in Bartlesboro plan to do whatever it takes to make sure that President Obama gets a second term. We have cancelled all community fundraised till after the election so that money can go to the President's Re-Election fund. All people who die in Bartlesboro (probably becuse the Republicans won't let us have free health care) will have memorials set up for them at Re-Elect Obama. The people of Bartlesboro, Vermont stand behind you President Obama!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Bartelsboro, Vermont at August 06, 2012 09:48 AM (OWjjx)

49 Despite a bullshit level that would freak out a barnyard in the Tomasky piece, there is a point we need to remember: Bark Obama can still win.

We underestimate the numbers of brain-dead, white-gilt-ridden and dream-stupefied voters to our peril. More of them than you'd think are shilling for the Choomer-in-Chief at the local level. We cannot ignore Doodad Pro and his pals, either.

The longer we let festering sores like Harry Reid spew their lies, the longer we do not challenge the media for its unbelievable bias, the longer the NRO and Tepid Air eunuchs titter about Obama's gaffes and either ignore or downplay actions that would get damn near anyone else impeached, the more we approach a point where whatever Romney does will be rendered meaningless.

This is not a straight who-is-the-better-candidate choice. The deck is heavily stacked in favor of an arrogant, America-hating loser who has already inflicted incalculable damage on our country.

If we don't somehow put Obama's business on the street for all to see, we lose. Best not to lose sight of that.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 06, 2012 09:49 AM (wZI4b)

50
I saw this the other day.
The utter delusion these people live under is disturbing.
All Romney needs to do is win the states Bush won in 2004.

Posted by: Jay at August 06, 2012 09:49 AM (3LaGb)

51
Hey, maybe Pew is right and the country is +19 points democrat. Maybe we're destroying the planet with our SUVs and eating meat is killing us all. It could be that everything we think is right is wrong and the liberals know best.

Nah...

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 09:49 AM (ZDsRL)

52 Tomasky is clearly correct, which is why I encourage Obama to stop campaigning in order to spend more time with his true love, the golf course.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2012 09:49 AM (TZaAF)

53 If Pepsi were running ad after ad after ad and blowing through more than it's income every month, while Coke sat back and built up its capital for the 3Q advertising season, and yet Coke and Pepsi stayed completely even on market share, who would you say was winning?

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 09:49 AM (MMC8r)

54 NV would have to be pretty damn retarded for vote
for JEF again considering what their economy is doing. If there is to
be a landslide I believe Romney will be on the receiving end of it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 06, 2012 09:39 AM (jucos)

Nevada 2010 was the test case on how far they can push elector fraud... it's THE major reason to be scared of what could happen in November....It's all over but the fraud.

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at August 06, 2012 09:50 AM (8BaAK)

55 Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 09:35 AM (eoedh)

Because NH is the last outpost of the resilient New Englander who absolutely fucking hates to be told what to do.

It's changing, but for at least the next few elections it should be safe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 06, 2012 09:50 AM (nEUpB)

56 Romney is going to win Iowa, New Hampshire, as well as Nevada, so I don't see any point in Tomasky's article.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 06, 2012 09:50 AM (GfHSl)

57
Here's an idea: We'll create an organization called "White Panthers" and we'll arm them and have them stand at the polls intimidating anyone who wants to vote Blue. And after we win the election we can install an White Attorney General who can refuse to investigate any allegations of poll fixing. And we'll scream"RACISM!" whenever anyone brings the topic up.

...oh wait! That's been done already????

Posted by: MrObvious at August 06, 2012 09:50 AM (t4++D)

58
The longer we let festering sores like Harry Reid spew their lies,
the longer we do not challenge the media for its unbelievable bias, the
longer the NRO and Tepid Air eunuchs titter about Obama's
gaffes and either ignore or downplay actions that would get damn near
anyone else impeached, the more we approach a point where whatever
Romney does will be rendered meaningless.


Wait. Didn't I hear that Harry Reid is a pederast, and that his staff thinks pederasty is cute?

That is: you're preaching to the choir.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 09:51 AM (8y9MW)

59 OBAMA IS RUNNING ADS IN PENNSYLVANIA. Lots of them. negatuve and positive ones.

THIS. My sister's in PA and last night on the phone she was growling about how she couldn't watch the Olympics without having to see the Preezy flap his petulant yap every commercial break.

Here in NH, the first thing I saw this morning when I woke up and turned on the TV to get the weather forecast was Obama's flap-eared face telling me how Romney's tax plan would cut taxes for the rich while burdening the middle class, blah, blah, blah. It was not a nice way to start the week, let me tell you.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 09:51 AM (4df7R)

60 Is it too late to do something about this California place?
SMOD has an app for that.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 09:51 AM (VtjlW)

61 I think da Zero is gonna get a historic asswhuppin'. Historic.

Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2012 09:51 AM (OlN4e)

62
And two states Obama won last time, Missouri Indiana, are off the map for him.
How does one understand that and believe a "landslide" is coming for SCOAMF?

Posted by: Jay at August 06, 2012 09:52 AM (3LaGb)

63 SMOD has an app for that.

But it's tied up in Apple-Approval Limbo.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 09:52 AM (8y9MW)

64 Posted by: f2000 at August 06, 2012 09:45 AM (39FoH)

It wold be interesting to check the early warehouse rentals (for spare ballot storage) against SEIU and "ACORN-equivalent" rental contracts.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 06, 2012 09:52 AM (Cnqmv)

65 >>OBAMA IS RUNNING ADS IN PENNSYLVANIA.

Wisconsin, too. I about choked to death in a bar one night last week when I accidentally saw one claiming he would make paying down the debt a priority.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 06, 2012 09:53 AM (/kI1Q)

66 Because NH is the last outpost of the resilient New Englander who absolutely fucking hates to be told what to do.

This x1000. The steady stream of Mass refugees is sadly changing that, but there are still a lot of us who really, really don't like regressive nanny statism.

We've also got a really big libertarian population. One of the reasons Luap Nor has such a big following up here.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 09:54 AM (4df7R)

67 Keep ph*kin that chicken Michael.

Posted by: dogfish at August 06, 2012 09:54 AM (N2yhW)

68 which part?

the "Bury saved GM" crap is not working in Dayton for obvious reasons....


Posted by: sven10077 at August 06, 2012 09:46 AM (LRFds)

Because we do shit ass backwards sometimes, like voting for a Dem governor at the same time we vote for a Rep president, and vice versa. Because I see Obama's crew out there but don't see Romney's crew. Because even ignoring that huge outlier poll from last month (you know the one), the polling makes me twitchy. Because Kasich's SB5 repudiation by voters in 2010 is going to be used against Romney in some way, shape, or form.
Because because because...maybe if I didn't live in this blue county, I'd feel better.

Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 09:54 AM (7vA7k)

69
37Isn't being painfully stupid a prerequisite to be a Demotard these days?

Nope. Kids with really high IQ's pay 6 figures to go to Notre Dame and get their Demotard indoctrination and brainwashing done at the same time. They also get connections to other Demotards and a good dose of "Greenhouse Gassaphobia" during their freshman year of biology.

Posted by: MrObvious at August 06, 2012 09:54 AM (t4++D)

70 Ohio is making me nervous as all hell. I live here.
Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 09:42 AM (7vA7k)


Have a drink and move

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 09:55 AM (05RcU)

71
And two states Obama won last time, Missouri Indiana, are off the map for him.

I was just going to point that out. Missouri last polled at Romney +9. That's a helluva shift.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 09:55 AM (MMC8r)

72 THIS. My sister's in PA and last night on the phone she was growling about how she couldn't watch the Olympics without having to see the Preezy flap his petulant yap every commercial break.

I can't tell if Romney's ramping up the ad buy in NC or if it's bias by the observer since I don't try to throw my back out diving for the remote when his ads come on nearly as much as I do when Jugears McShankosaur's ads come on.

I will say that I do like the RNC one with the full you didn't build that someone else made that happen line. It's the someone else part that makes me try to set things on fire with the power of my mind.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 09:55 AM (VtjlW)

73

Is it too late to do something about this California place?

***

Yes. Don't look back, or you'll turn into a pillar of salt.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 09:56 AM (UuLBC)

74 Wisconsin, too. I about choked to death in a bar one
night last week when I accidentally saw one claiming he would make
paying down the debt a priority.


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 06, 2012 09:53 AM (/kI1Q)


Anybody dumb enough to swallow that garbage deserves to be a serf for life.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 06, 2012 09:56 AM (rv/0F)

75 That is: you're preaching to the choir.

Perhaps. But since a good many members of the choir are loudly singing the "Romney will blow Obama out of the water!!11!!" song, perhaps it's a good idea to remind them of the risks, no?

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 06, 2012 09:56 AM (wZI4b)

76 Anybody dumb enough to swallow that garbage deserves to be a serf for life.

To be fair, you all deserve to be serfs for life. I'm pretty sure I already said something to that effect.

Posted by: John Roberts at August 06, 2012 09:57 AM (8y9MW)

77 Bcause Kasich

You could have stopped with that.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 09:57 AM (VtjlW)

78 I refuse to accept the possibility that that creepy rich Mormon could possibly defeat our beloved President. An overwhelming victory for his multiracial wisdom is the only correct-thinking outcome, and only racist hate and corporate corruption to steal the election can stop him. But I, and everyone I know in real life here in beautiful ecologically-friendly Vermont will vote for him.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 06, 2012 09:57 AM (jCQ+I)

79 Uggh. Relying on Wisc, Iowa and Ohio to win it is an iffy proposition at best.

Romney has been spending a fair bit of money here in Iowa, and he still hasn't pulled even in the polls. So, while it's nice that all of BHO's advertising hasn't had much effect, it doesn't seem like Romney's ads do either. The vaunted stash of cash that Romney has on hand had better be put to good use. Just running more of the same old ads doesn't seem to be the ticket.


Posted by: Cornfed at August 06, 2012 09:59 AM (Hoy9u)

80 Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 06, 2012 09:57 AM (jCQ+I)

I'm pretty sure those are a sock, but it's way too early on a Monday morning to be reading that crap.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 09:59 AM (8y9MW)

81 One small correction to what someone posted up thread,

McCain won Missouri in 08. And no, Missouri won't even be contested this year.

Carry on.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 09:59 AM (OWjjx)

82 But I, and everyone I know in real life here in beautiful ecologically-friendly Vermont will vote for him.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 06, 2012 09:57 AM (jCQ+I)


I know Mary Cloggenstein is a running joke, but I just have to say...

Mary: VT is populated by about thirty people and a million cows. I guess cow flatulence isn't the bothersome greenhouse gas the scientists tell us it is, huh?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 10:00 AM (4df7R)

83 71

Although McCain actually (barely) won Missouri, I should point out.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 10:00 AM (MMC8r)

84 I'm pretty sure those are a sock, but it's way too early on a Monday morning to be reading that crap.

AOSHQ Rule Number 12: All Mary Cloggensteins are socks.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 10:01 AM (OWjjx)

85 Because Kasich's SB5 repudiation by voters in 2010 is going to be used against Romney in some way, shape, or form.


The same election where Bammycare got smacked down by a similar margin?

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 06, 2012 10:01 AM (rv/0F)

86 They do these same charts over at Daily Kooks.. usually I just shut up because I've been banned from there before, but I just had to laugh at kos on the last one.. what a maroon.

kos is basing his "projections" on those consolidated average of polls where he gets to include all the far lefty outlier polls,, it's fucking ridiculous.. he has Obama winning Florida.. etc. etc..

Drew - I'd like to see Virginia go red.. I bet that was the eastern state Romney had polled twice recently just to leak to the Obama campaign..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 06, 2012 10:01 AM (f9c2L)

87 What constitutes a landslide in this environment? Was Bill Clinton's 2nd term a landslide? Was Obama's first term a landslide? In today's electorate, it seems we have to adjust our thinking as to what constitutes a landslide - or just accept that there may be no landslides for quite a while. Prior to Clinton's first victory, landslides had become relatively common, at least for the GOP.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 10:02 AM (gmeXX)

88 Though maybe one day we should all move to Bartlesboro, Vermont and turn it into some conservative nirvanna and see how tolerant the folks there really are...........

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 10:02 AM (OWjjx)

89 I was just going to point that out. Missouri last polled at Romney +9. That's a helluva shift.


Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 09:55 AM (MMC8r)


Your primary is tomorrow, right?

Posted by: Tami at August 06, 2012 10:02 AM (X6akg)

90 The same election where Bammycare got smacked down by a similar margin?


Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 06, 2012 10:01 AM (rv/0F)

Well like I said, we're weird like that. Prior to that election, nearly everyone was saying that if one fails, they'd both fail. And yet that's not at all what happened.

Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 10:04 AM (7vA7k)

91 Your primary is tomorrow, right

Yes, the real Missouri primary (they had some sort of faux primary early for the Presidential race that was nothing more than a show primary) is tomorrow.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 10:04 AM (OWjjx)

92 Why are you guys hating on the M-Clog? Just smile and pet her on the head.

Posted by: fluffy at August 06, 2012 10:05 AM (z9HTb)

93 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:06 AM (6o4Fb)

94 Romney has been spending a fair bit of money here in
Iowa, and he still hasn't pulled even in the polls. So, while it's nice
that all of BHO's advertising hasn't had much effect, it doesn't seem
like Romney's ads do either. The vaunted stash of cash that Romney has
on hand had better be put to good use. Just running more of the same old
ads doesn't seem to be the ticket.
Posted by: Cornfed
..............
Here's the thing with these polls.

Obama pretty much has all the voters he's gonna get. He's a known quantity.

Romney, however, can define himself at the convention and pile on tons of voters who are as yet unsure about him.

Then he goes on attack for 2 months showing every Obama 2008 campaign promise and how Obama has failed at nearly every one.

And then there's turnout. Slam dunk.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 06, 2012 10:07 AM (f9c2L)

95 Why is this even being debated? As far as I know, the Republican party disbanded after teh 08 election. At least that's what I was told.

Posted by: Ball of Hate at August 06, 2012 10:07 AM (AREf/)

96 Let them live in their fantasy world.It will be all the sweeter when reality hits them in November.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:08 AM (6o4Fb)

97 Though maybe one day we should all move to Bartlesboro, Vermont and turn it into some conservative nirvanna

Hmmm. That may be an acceptable alternative location for alextopia.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 10:08 AM (VtjlW)

98
All Romney needs to do is win the states Bush won in 2004.
Posted by: Jay




Even 2004 was a narrow, one state's worth of electoral votes win. Remember staying up later to see which way Ohio was going to go?

If Obama and Romney split Ohio and Florida, a distinct possibility, Romney's window is very tight, at best.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2012 10:08 AM (kdS6q)

99 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 10:02 AM

I prefer Noo Hampshuh (gotta give Mt. Washington a shout-out), but yeah, Vermont is a pretty state. It'd be nice to colonize either with a majority of clear-thinking, patriotic humans.

Conversely, I'd be all for making MA the refuge for all the country's lefty loons. So many are here already, and fencing 'em in would be one helluva "shovel-ready" project.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 06, 2012 10:09 AM (wZI4b)

100
Obama has taken on the true warrior spirit and the democrat party is my tribe. As my forefathers taught us young braves and squaws, you must slit the enemies throats in their sleep and selltheir children into slavery to secure a better tomorrow for me and mine (but mainly ME).
We are going to truly transform America. Join us for the final hunt.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 06, 2012 10:10 AM (f+TdG)

101 We're starting to see a TON of BO ads here in NE FL now. Watching the olympics now involves me muting the tv during pretty much every commercial break. And restraining my wife from throwing things.

Btw, Jugears McShankosaur ?

Lmao. That's a new one.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 10:10 AM (da5Wo)

102 It's the stupid, economy.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 06, 2012 10:11 AM (r2PLg)

103
"Romney has been spending a fair bit of money here in Iowa, and he still hasn't pulled even in the polls."

RCP average has O +1.5% in Iowa, and that's including an 0+5 poll from PPP. Throw that out, and its a tie.

Posted by: Jon at August 06, 2012 10:11 AM (t2DGr)

104 Brattleboro, VT is, hilariously, near Fort Dummer State Park.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2012 10:11 AM (TZaAF)

105 "Romney's window is very tight."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2012 10:08 AM (kdS6q)

I'm jealous!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 06, 2012 10:13 AM (nEUpB)

106 Just one man's opinion, but after the election we are all going to wonder why we were even worried.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 10:14 AM (gmeXX)

107
Ah, my error, McCain did win Mizzou in 2008.
Ok, so SCOAMF has zero chance of winning any state he lost in 2008.
LANDSLIDE!

Posted by: Jay at August 06, 2012 10:15 AM (3LaGb)

108 Mitt ain't winning CO, NM, NH, IA, or WIS. There simply isn't enough corporate government tit suckers to beat out the union governmenttit suckers..

Posted by: flyonthewall at August 06, 2012 10:16 AM (aZ7lL)

109 Well like I said, we're weird like that. Prior to
that election, nearly everyone was saying that if one fails, they'd both
fail. And yet that's not at all what happened.


Posted by: tdpwells at August 06, 2012 10:04 AM (7vA7k)


I can't figure it out either. Kasich just doesn't seem to be that popular throughout the state but I like him just fine. After all he beat Strickland by a very small amount even though Twitch hadn't had a single fucking thing go right for four years. I know there was a lot of Repub infighting between Kasich and that fuckhead Kevin DeWine, who was ousted from the state party steering committee by the Tea Party subsequently. Maybe that will help but I'm not sure. Repubs in the state are still recovering from the hangove that goof Taft provided.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 06, 2012 10:17 AM (rv/0F)

110 I saw that headline over at HotAir over the weekend, and I knew better than to click on it. Democrat wishcasting makes my blood pressure go up.

Here in Florida I'm seeing about 50/50 on the commercials. The Obama ones are trying to scare women that Romney is going to take their right to commit infanticide away from them. They are also running the Obama "I didn't say that" commercial.

For an attack that is supposed to be working so well, the Bain ads are suspiciously absent.

Romney has the "Doing fine?" commercial hitting Obama about unemployement, etc. Also that Winter Olympics commercial with Michele Kwon for Romney is running a lot too.

All in all, the effectiveness of the commercials seems to be in Romney's favor, but then pro-abortion advertising never seems like a good idea to me.

The US Chamber is also running a very negative ad against Bill Nelson reminding everyone he was a deciding vote on Obamacare. Nelson is hitting back with an obvious smear ad against Connie Mack, something about him being in bar fights. And Mack doesn't even have the nomination yet. It smells of desperation on Nelson's part.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 06, 2012 10:17 AM (UNbFx)

111 I'm not in the least bit worried. I know for a fact that the Obama campaign has been running internal polling in Minnesota as recently as late last week and the numbers are terrible for them. Yes, MN. And Pennsylvania consistently for the last several weeks.

When registered-voter respondents in the Twin Cities are negative on a Democrat, shit is getting real.

I'm not saying the Romney campaign will succeed in turning the Scandahoovians in Nov. I'm just saying that Obama is worried enough about it to be polling the state. And getting not-good numbers back from that polling.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 06, 2012 10:18 AM (dcoFe)

112 @108 -- so how did Walker win so decisively?

Posted by: Uncledave at August 06, 2012 10:19 AM (nJ32z)

113 Yes, the real Missouri primary (they had some sort
of faux primary early for the Presidential race that was nothing more
than a show primary) is tomorrow.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 10:04 AM (OWjjx)


So tomorrow is when McCaskill gets her walking papers.....or thrown in the mighty Missisip.

Posted by: Tami at August 06, 2012 10:20 AM (X6akg)

114 I'm not saying the Romney campaign will succeed in turning the
Scandahoovians in Nov. I'm just saying that Obama is worried enough
about it to be polling the state. And getting not-good numbers back from
that polling.


I'll say it again: every dollar he spends in what should be a "safe" Blue state, is one less dollar he can spend in a swing state or Red state.

Though, I think he has some idea that Mitt Romney is causing him trouble in those states because he's running ads there (rather than running ads there because he sees that Obama is in trouble there), because he's started making ad buys in Texas, of all places.

Yeah. That'll be money well spent.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 10:21 AM (8y9MW)

115 Thank Bush 41 and establishment republicanism for being the first presidential candidate to lose the west coast to the Dems in the modern era.

The trend is just getting worse since 1992.

Posted by: Valiant at August 06, 2012 10:21 AM (aFxlY)

116 My take is that Romney is going to win by a comfortable margin.I don't think people are being honest in responding to polls.Obama is not likeable but they are afraid to say it.They have no intention of voting for him but are afraid to say it.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:22 AM (6o4Fb)

117
@15 Burn the Witch
I'll give you a longer answer to your question, by giving you the voting habits and the reasons for them, of each New England state. And yes, I live here. Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and the eastern half of Connecticutare the most simple: they have been solid Democrat ever since the the Catholics became unionized. The western half of Connecticut leans Republican, but not by as much as they used to, because wealthy New Yorkers have move there to escape high taxes; but rather stupidly, also brought their politics with them, to an extent. Northern New England is a different matter all together. Maine has begun to lean Democratic based on immigration from French Canada to the Northern reaches of Maine, as well as some immigration from Boston to the southern areas, based again on lower taxation. No state, however, has had its demographics changed as stridently as they have in Vermont. Barely a third of current Vermonters were born there: the rest are either Canadian (mainly from Quebec), or else are hippies, who have congregated their based on the close proximity to both Canada and New York City. Look at a map of the 2000 presidential election by county, and you'll see the last gasp of Vermont Republicanism in the Northeast Kingdom before the demographics changed, in the shor term, for good. New Hampshire has had the lowest Canadian immigration in recent years (their high percentage of French Canadians have been their for generations, and have been throughly Americanized). The reason, however, that their changing demographics have kept the state Republican, however, is state history. New Hampshire has a long history of being one of the most stridently anti-tax states in the country. It has no income tax, an anti-tax pledge that nearly all politicans, of either party, sign, and the state motto is Live Free or Die. This anti-tax, small governemnt mindset attracts those who share a similar view, and so suburbs have grown along the southern edge from immigration from Massachusetts. These people however, moved to New Hampshire because of their politics, rather than in spite of them, unlike Maine and Connecticut, and that has kept New Hampshire in the competitive category in politics. A mouthfull, I know, but histroy is my passion.

Posted by: IrishNewEnglander at August 06, 2012 10:22 AM (OygJX)

118 Posted by: Uncledave at August 06, 2012 10:19 AM (nJ32z)

SHUT UP is how.

Posted by: flyonthefeces at August 06, 2012 10:23 AM (nEUpB)

119 114 I see Obama ads(quite a few) in NJ (these ads are likely run in the trui State area NY,CT,NJ).

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:23 AM (6o4Fb)

120 I prefer Noo Hampshuh (gotta give Mt. Washington a shout-out), but yeah, Vermont is a pretty state. It'd be nice to colonize either with a majority of clear-thinking, patriotic humans.

Mount Washington responds: "Holla!"

I'd be all for getting some solid conservatives in our neighboring Green Mountain state. It really is a beautiful piece of country, much more agrarian compared to NH's rugged landscape. We complement each other nicely geographically, if not politically.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 10:23 AM (4df7R)

121 Obama might win if there's enough voting fraud.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 06, 2012 10:23 AM (CRjWn)

122 If every place over samples Dems by 20 points on election night...Obama might win by five.
1948 is going to look like spot on forecasting compared to what is coming.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 06, 2012 10:25 AM (B+qrE)

123 Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) said Sunday that he doesn’t believe recent polls showing President Obama with a wide lead in his home state.

“There are two polls out that show it’s 11 points. But I don’t believe those polls,” Rendell said on CBS’ Face the Nation. “…That’s what he won by in ’08. I don’t believe that. I believe it’s going to be closer. We’ve got a very serious problem with a bad voter ID law, if the courts don’t throw it out, that could cost us 100,000 votes. So this isn’t over in Pennsylvania. And if you’re a supporter of the president, don’t think by a long shot it’s over.”

Rendell added that the small percentage of undecided voters reported by pollsters also isn’t a given.

“What happens post-Labor Day is people start paying more attention to the campaign. We’ve got the convention speeches. We’ve got the three debates,” the former governor said. “A lot of those so- called firmly decided voters can still shift.”

Another swing-state governor, Virginia’s Bob McDonnell (R), said on the same program that he believes his state will go to presumed Republican nominee Mitt Romney.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:26 AM (6o4Fb)

124 Micheal Yon used to be a good guy. When did he go round the bend?

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 10:26 AM (RD7QR)

125 Posted by: IrishNewEnglander at August 06, 2012 10:22 AM (OygJX)

Holy cow, thanks!

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:28 AM (eoedh)

126 JEF has also been littering the DC airwaves with his stupid commercials. I think they are aimed at Northern VA as he already (unfortunately) has MD in the bag. It smells like flop sweat to me. This election will be over by 8:15 PM EST election night when it is announced that PA and VA go to Mittens.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 06, 2012 10:31 AM (jucos)

127 @123 Rendell and McDonnell, like all prominent surrogates for their respective campaigns, have either seen the real polling numbers or are savvy enough to figure them out.

Romney out-raised Obama by 26 million in July. Like the Good Book says, you judge them by what they do, not what they say.

Obama is in deep, deep trouble.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 06, 2012 10:31 AM (dcoFe)

128 Obama might win if there's enough voting fraud.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 06, 2012 10:23 AM (CRjWn)

The Dems are sure to commit voter fraud, but they're are not sure they can commit enough to secure the Presidential election. Thus, the massive ad buys in key states and the DoJ push to suppress any voter ID requirements. When you need the fake votes to exceed 5%, it is hard to conceal the fraud.
By the way, have you ever wondered how those millions of old people that don't have photo ID and will be disenfranchised by the evil Republicans at the voting booth are still able to access billions of dollars in Medicare services (which require photo ID)?

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 06, 2012 10:31 AM (Cnqmv)

129 It's just me, but the fact that the Sikh-shooter was in the army 15 years ago that all the media is going on about is looking kind of....irrelevant at this point.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 10:31 AM (MMC8r)

130 I love when people (like at Kos) try to use polling averages to justify their preferred electoral result. Inherent in their argument is this notion of "well since we are using averages, we are removing any bias from the poll results".

The problem with this is that there are NO polls that are biased toward the GOP. Not a single one. We range from Rasmussen and Gallup that generally hit the D/R/I split fairly, to Pew with their insane D+19 poll. By definition, the poll averages are going to lean toward the Dems.

Which is the point. OFA wants the RCP average to show a consistent lead for Obama, to keep their base energize and the GOP base demoralized. By gaming the system, they can get the result they want.

However, when you look at the approval numbers, he remains well under 50%. Pew needed a D+19 to get his approval to 50%. Even Bush, in the close 2004 election, had a 51% approval.

This election will be 52/47 for Romney, with about 300 EVs. Something very significant would have to change the dynamic, and it would require Obama to act totally out of character (i.e. presidential).

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 06, 2012 10:32 AM (UNbFx)

131 Barry will win a 57 state landslide

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 06, 2012 10:32 AM (1Jaio)

132 Judicial Watch, August 3 (thanks to Mackie):

Surprise, surprise the Hezbollah terrorist released by the Obama Administration to Iraq out of respect for the country’s sovereignty won’t make it to the U.S. to face trial for killing five American soldiers.
We all knew this would happen back in December when the commander-in-chief handed over the Lebanese militant, Ali Mussa Daqduq, to Iraqi officials. A mainstream newspaper presented it as a “dilemma” for the president as American troops prepared to exit Iraq. Daqduq had been in U.S. military custody in Iraq since 2007 for his involvement in a carefully orchestrated plot that killed, kidnapped and tortured American military officers.

The atrocities took place in a city called Karbala, south of Baghdad in early 2007. Around a dozen terrorists dressed in U.S. military uniforms opened fire on Americans after approaching a camp in five sports utility vehicles resembling U.S. transports. One U.S. soldier died at the scene and four others were kidnapped, tortured and executed. Daqduq, a Hezbollah commander, was the mastermind.

But President Obama didn’t want to remove the terrorist from Iraq without permission from the country, in order not to violate its sovereignty. He also refused to take Daqduq to the U.S. Naval base in Guantanamo Cuba, which houses other high-value terrorists, because the facility is an anathema in the Middle East and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki would not approve the “unacceptable” Guantanamo option.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:35 AM (6o4Fb)

133 "This election will be over by 8:15 PM EST election night when it is announced that PA and VA go to Mittens."

Man I hope so. I'm not going to watch on TV, but after it's announced online, I will definitely tune in and furiously flip channels to observe the ashen-faced newsreaders.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:35 AM (eoedh)

134 It's just me, but the fact that the Sikh-shooter was in the army 15 years ago that all the media is going on about is looking kind of....irrelevant at this point.
Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 10:31 AM (MMC8r)

Totally irrelevant. Bu that never stopped them before

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 10:35 AM (05RcU)

135
Posted by: IrishNewEnglander at August 06, 2012 10:22 AM (OygJX)


As a native New Englander and long-time adult resident, I'd agree. I grew up in that R-leaning western half of CT, and lived many years on Boston's north shore.

The one thing I would also point out about NH demographics is that southern NH has for years been a magnet for those seeking to escape the political atmosphere of Massachusetts. Part of the attraction was lower taxes and lower real estate prices, but part as well was the lure of freedom and independence from an overweening government.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 10:36 AM (UuLBC)

136 Mitt ain't winning CO, NM, NH, IA, or WIS. There simply isn't enough
corporate government tit suckers to beat out the union governmenttit
suckers..



Were you bottle fed as a child, or did you breast feed until you were 12?

Posted by: Sigmund Freud at August 06, 2012 10:36 AM (z9HTb)

137 You all know the GOP is going to own the news cycle for either all of next week or the following, right?

See, that's when Mitt announces his VP.

Now, here's where paying attention helps. If the JEF does nothing, he's not too worried.

But, he will. He will pull some desperate gambit to try and steal the spotlight. Why? My guess: 1) His internals are shit and 2) he has no confidence whatsoever.

And in three weeks the GOP convention starts.

And that is why the JEF is shitting his pants: If he pulls a big stunt to overshadow the VP selection, he has nothing left to cloud the convention. If he saves his big play for the convention, he risks losing too much ground to the VP show. If he tries two stunts, one, and likely both, will fail, amplifying the GOP advantage.

In short, the GOP is going to own August. If the Mitt makes the sale at the end, no one will watch the Dems convention.

Remember: Every election against the incumbent is a two-part question: 1) Does the incumbent deserve to be re-elected on their record? and 2) Is the other guy a suitable replacement?

The JEF has conceded #1--or he'd be running on his record. Further, that is why he is trying to make Mitt so scary.

So, ignore everything they try to trumpet. If the Mitt is getting people to answer #2 in his favor--and everything says he is--he wins in a landslide.

Let me check the FB, see what the lefties think they've got brewing.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 06, 2012 10:36 AM (imtbm)

138 Speaking of Presidential debates, Las Vegas currently has the odds at 2:1 that the first question from Brian Williams of NBC will be: "Gov. Romney, do you have your tax returns with you for the past 10 years?"

Posted by: Holger Awakens at August 06, 2012 10:37 AM (D6Wgw)

139 They don't believe it. They say it, the same way you tell your 12 year old son he's better than all the guys playing varsity right now. It makes him feel good, and there's no way to prove it's not true. Not right now, anyway.

Wait until they start hitting for real. The skinny kid is going to get flattened, and if nobody tries to impart some truth on the boy between now and then, he'll never see it coming, and will have no idea how or why it happened.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 10:37 AM (TOk1P)

140 130

More importantly, averaging polls with different samples, methodologies, and models is absolutely stupid.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 10:37 AM (MMC8r)

141 Not to be a jerk, but $2 is quite expensive on the Android market for an app that will instantly lose all its value after November.

I'd suggest an ad-supported version and a donate version for those who would like to throw some cash your way.

I could see it getting quite popular if it was ad supported.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 10:38 AM (xAtAj)

142 Hi rons. Just got back from the grocery store. Wanna see inflation? Isles and isles of it.

Anyway, I'm pushing my cart away from the checkout line when a rather attractive woman enters sporting a lovely pair of Daisy dukes. I begin to peruse the backside of said couture when she turns and says loud enough for everyone to hear, "You get an eyeful yet"

I shot back, loud enough for everyone to hear, "Nope, give me a minute." The bag boys start laughing so hard they can't bag groceries.

So I would like to take this opportunity to thank the rons for turning me into a bigger smartass than I ever thought I would be.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:39 AM (9TTOe)

143 Does the One have to insert himself into every story. Can't I just enjoy Michael Phelps impressive run without hearing about how he received a tweet from President Obama. And why is our President tweeting?

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 10:39 AM (gmeXX)

144 Reports: Hillary Clinton Chased Out Of Malawi ByBees

http://preview.tinyurl.com/c6z95eh

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 10:42 AM (MMC8r)

145 The question is..."how will Mitt govern after the landslide?"

Will he seek common ground?

Or does he want to succeed?


Posted by: Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 06, 2012 10:42 AM (qxcKC)

146
You all know the GOP is going to own the news cycle for either all of next week or the following, right? See, that's when Mitt announces his VP.

Posted by: RoyalOil




Rob Portman picked, the Nation stands transfixed. The factories go silent, the fields are unreaped....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2012 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

147 That's some mighty fine whistling past the graveyard.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - just another rat in the race at August 06, 2012 10:43 AM (hLRSq)

148


Posted by: Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 06, 2012 10:42 AM (qxcKC)

I'm hoping Mitt would realize that the base will turn on him for the tiniest of infractions.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 10:43 AM (xAtAj)

149 Rob Portman picked, the Nation stands transfixed. The factories go silent, the fields are unreaped....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2012 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

Yep, for the first time, I don't want to know. I'm sure the stupidity of the pick will be soul crushing.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:44 AM (9TTOe)

150
Hillary Clinton Chased Out Of Malawi ByBees

***

Landing under hostile fire again, no doubt.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 10:45 AM (UuLBC)

151 "she turns and says loud enough for everyone to hear, "You get an eyeful yet"
Yeah, women who wear tight/low cutshirts or shirts with print across teh boobies who then get indignant about guys looking at what they clearly want attention drawn to are a real treat too.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:45 AM (eoedh)

152 I shot back, loud enough for everyone to hear, "Nope, give me a minute."
The bag boys start laughing so hard they can't bag groceries.


heh.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 10:46 AM (8y9MW)

153 @137 Absolutely correct. Nut-cracking time is just about upon us.

Always remember that this is only the third time in Obama's political career in which he has faced a competitive election. The first time was in the primary against Bobby Rush and Obama got beat 2-1 and was nearly despondent afterwards according to credible reporting.

The second time was obviously in 2008 where he had a dog-fight for 80% of the Dem primary and then got incalculable support from the media to put away first Hillary, and then McCain. Everything broke right for Obama in 2008. Even then, he needed economic collapse and McCain to make a colossal tactical mistake with the "campaign suspension" to finally finish him off.

This is the first time in his career where he will face an aggressive and equally-or-better financed opponent and have to do it with an actual record to defend, himself.

This doesn't end well for Barry.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 06, 2012 10:46 AM (dcoFe)

154 145 -

Exactly. They have two modes: we won, so sux for you, we do what we want.

Or: you won, now give us reach arounds across the aisle, because the American people loves them some bipartisanship!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 10:46 AM (TOk1P)

155 Rob Portman picked, the Nation stands transfixed. The factories go silent, the fields are unreaped....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2012 10:42 AM (kdS6q)

...because they all have fallen asleep.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 10:47 AM (RD7QR)

156 my VP prediction: Jindalnot going to be Rubio, and the rest are really boring white menOR they are already speaking at the convention(the latinas included)dont think it'll be Ryan or Paul(Rand Paul should stay in senate, and Ryan is needed for the budgeting committee)

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 10:47 AM (xAtAj)

157 Oh, oh. Maybe he'll pick Rick Perry, and David Dewhurst will become Governor of Texas!

Okay, my own personal nightmare is over now.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (8y9MW)

158 Speaking of Presidential debates, Las Vegas currently has the odds at 2:1 that the first question from Brian Williams of NBC will be: "Gov. Romney, do you have your tax returns with you for the past 10 years?"
Mitt would win my undying admiration if he said"No.FYNQ." I will even accept himsaying F Y N Q rather than the whole thing.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (VtjlW)

159 "And two states Obama won last time, Missouri Indiana, are off the map for him."

Obama won Missouri?

Does anyone here have a clue?

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (/zlEe)

160 "Yep, for the first time, I don't want to know. I'm sure the stupidity of the pick will be soul crushing.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:44 AM (9TTOe)"


And the media's criticism of "safe, middle-aged white guy" will totally come out of nowhere!

And, in between crayons, Joe Biden will nod in agreement.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (eoedh)

161 So I would like to take this opportunity to thank the rons for turning
me into a bigger smartass than I ever thought I would be.


I too, aspire to someday grow up to be a dirty old man.

Posted by: EC at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)

162 Yeah, women who wear tight/low cutshirts or shirts with print across teh boobies who then get indignant about guys looking at what they clearly want attention drawn to are a real treat too.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:45 AM (eoedh)
-----------------------------------------------------
“If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it … whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat?” the sheik said in his sermon. “The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred.”

Posted by: Australian Imam at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (jucos)

163 AOSHQ formatting, HOW DOES IT WORK?

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (xAtAj)

164 I too, aspire to someday grow up to be a dirty old man.
Posted by: EC at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (GQ8sn)

I'M NOT OLD!!!!

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:49 AM (9TTOe)

165 We’ve got a very serious problem with a bad voter ID law, if the courts don’t throw it out, that could cost us 100,000 votes.
___

What. A. Liar.

The PA voter ID law provides for free proof of citizenship for anyone who can't seem to locate it. Do you know how easy it is to get a birth certificate? Google PA vital records. It takes you to a site where you can get a copy of BC. It costs $19.95. If you can't afford it, take it to your State Rep I'm sure they'll be happy to give you a voucher for the cost.

Rendell is a slimy donk apologist I hate his gorilla back guts.

Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 10:49 AM (jm/9g)

166 Nobody will come out to vote for Mitt in November, just like nobody showed up at Chick-fil-A last week.
"Nobody" is scaring the crap out of the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Roy at August 06, 2012 10:49 AM (VndSC)

167
I was able to get tickets to the last Rob Portman rally.

The Velvet Room at the Holiday Inn never rocked like that before.

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 10:49 AM (ZDsRL)

168 "My take is that Romney is going to win by a comfortable margin.I don't think people are being honest in responding to polls.Obama is not likeable but they are afraid to say it.They have no intention of voting for him but are afraid to say it."

Losing campaigns always say these things. People not being honest with pollsters, lol! People afraid to tell pollsters they wont vote for Obama, lol!

When was the last time there was an upset in a Presidential election and the polls were wrong?

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 10:50 AM (Lf/c1)

169 Nobody will come out to vote for Mitt in November, just like nobody showed up at Chick-fil-A last week.

I think the better translation was "Noman."

"Noman attacked me!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 10:50 AM (8y9MW)

170 Rendell is a slimy donk apologist I hate his gorilla back guts.
Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 10:49 AM (jm/9g)

+1

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (9TTOe)

171 Does anyone here have a clue?

Yeah, but it's mostly the people who read the comments before commenting themselves, dickweed.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (evdj2)

172 I really don't care who the VP pick is as long as it isn't a really bad one(Condi for instance).

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (6o4Fb)

173 Also, anyone applying for fed or state entitlements needs a damn valid ID. I don't know who these people are who can't come up with an ID.

Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (jm/9g)

174 Stop it with the negative waves. Mitt will take VA, PA and every fucking thing absent MA.

Even the Wag the Dog is not going to save this dickhead.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (3ZjAP)

175
AOSHQ formatting, HOW DOES IT WORK?


it don't

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (mFxQX)

176 Are you all saying that polls can be wrong?

Posted by: President John F. Kerry at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (jucos)

177 Hey, it's Dr. Gerg Dragonfly-Smith, noted poll expert, who was bang on about the Walker recall. Oh wait, he was totally wrong. Never mind.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 10:52 AM (RD7QR)

178 This doesn't end well for Barry.


Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 06, 2012 10:46 AM (dcoFe)


Fuck him. Not wanting to be banned keeps me from saying what I really want for that cocksucker but imagine the worst thing I've said here previously and make it exponentially more severe in profanity and respect for other humans.

Posted by: Captain Hate (dagny solidarity) at August 06, 2012 10:52 AM (rv/0F)

179 Formatting? Formatting? We don't need no stinkin' formatting........

Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2012 10:52 AM (OlN4e)

180 Not wanting to be banned keeps me from saying what I really want for that cocksucker

Brazen bull?

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (evdj2)

181 "Ryan is needed for the budgeting committee"

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 10:47 AM (xAtAj)


I'm kind of meh on this.Ryan might help secure Wisconsin, plus I know a few Dem leaners who are impressed by hisintellect and abilities.

We have other accountants on the House who could easily step up to fill his shoes.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (eoedh)

182 Does anyone here have a clue?

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (/zlEe)

Only you, you special snowflake.

Posted by: Fred Rogers at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (z9HTb)

183 I was just going to point that out. Missouri last polled at Romney +9. That's a helluva shift.

-----

Missouri gets a double dose of the anger...... Obama.... and McCaskill.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (C8hzL)

184 Mitt would win my undying admiration if he said"No.FYNQ." I will even accept himsaying F Y N Q rather than the whole thing.


Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (VtjlW)


Personally, I'd like to see "I'd be glad to turn over those records. Just as soon as the President releases his college and law school transcripts."

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (da5Wo)

185 Mitt wins MN, PA, and VA. It's not close.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone scoundrel at August 06, 2012 10:54 AM (knrCu)

186 Tanned, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Colin Powell at August 06, 2012 10:54 AM (jucos)

187 168 -

2000 and 2004, genius. All day long in '04 the "smart" pundits were talking about all the battleground states Kerry was taking, according to the exit polls.

Yeah. I'll never forget the smug look on Susan Estrich's face that day.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 10:54 AM (TOk1P)

188 Personally, I'd like to see "I'd be glad to turn over those records. Just as soon as the President releases his college and law school transcripts."
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (da5Wo)

How about if Mitt said "Fuck You, that's why. Now here's how we get America working again."

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:55 AM (9TTOe)

189 Yeah, but it's mostly the people who read the comments before commenting themselves, dickweed.
Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 10:51 AM (evdj2)


Wait....we're supposed to read the comments??? All of them?? That's kind of a lot of work....

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 10:55 AM (da5Wo)

190
cocksucker


****

Apropos of nothing, I received that epithet from a supporter of gay marriage on twitter.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 10:56 AM (UuLBC)

191 188 Personally, I'd like to see "I'd be glad to turn over those records. Just as soon as the President releases his college and law school transcripts."
Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 10:53 AM (da5Wo)

How about if Mitt said "Fuck You, that's why. Now here's how we get America working again."
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 10:55 AM (9TTOe)

FYNQ - stick with the classics

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 06, 2012 10:56 AM (136wp)

192 Wait....we're supposed to read the comments???

It makes Breitbart smile.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 10:56 AM (evdj2)

193 How about if Mitt said "Fuck You, that's why. Now here's how we get America working again."

Also acceptable. lol

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 10:56 AM (da5Wo)

194 Apropos of nothing, I received that epithet from a supporter of gay marriage on twitter.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 10:56 AM (UuLBC)

Was it a question or a statement?

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 06, 2012 10:57 AM (136wp)

195 Apropos of nothing, I received that epithet from a supporter of gay marriage on twitter.

The Goddess Irony laughed.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 10:57 AM (evdj2)

196 @168, I believe the polls were wrong in 2004, they were quite wrong in 1980. In 2008, even McCain led in some polls as some point. I don't necessarily think the polls are wrong, they are just pollingthe wrong thing. They are only polling an outcome based on today. Perhaps if the election were held today, Obama would win. But what will the polls say after Mitt is formally nominated, after people start paying more attention, after more media ads.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 10:57 AM (gmeXX)

197 Oh good at least we waited until nearly 11 to start talking about Chick Fil A.

When was the last time there was an upset in a Presidential election and the polls were wrong?

Dewey defeats Truman.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 10:57 AM (VtjlW)

198 I still think whoever wins Ohio wins it because that, to me, is the median state.

Virginia is also very interesting.

If I'm either campaign and I have both Ohio and Virginia on election night, I'm pretty damn confident of victory.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at August 06, 2012 10:57 AM (J8gK5)

199
AOSHQ formatting, HOW DOES IT WORK?
Posted by: HoboJerky





AOSHQ - Now Mosaic Compliant!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 06, 2012 10:58 AM (kdS6q)

200 "Does anyone here have a clue?

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 10:48 AM (/zlEe)"


The two or three that corrected an honest mistake shortly afterward? Just spitballin' here, but I tend to read, think, then post. YMMV

Posted by: Burn the Witch at August 06, 2012 10:58 AM (eoedh)

201 I have sold all of my old Joan Baez, Janis Joplin, Carley Simon and Jefferson Airplane Vinyl records and sent the money to support President Obama. However, I will not sell my Tye-Dye T-Shirts or my autographed Bob Dylan/Jim MorrisonBong. That is way too much for me..

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at August 06, 2012 10:58 AM (48wze)

202 @168 once again I must school the liar, and now pulling a curious and changing handles, poll troll Greg. Most polling at this point are RV polls which favor Dem candidates. At this point in 2004, Kerry lead in the polls thanks to RV polls. Once we go to only LV models I suspect that will change. If Obama leads mid-September then i'll push the panic button. Now go back and find some other BS talking point to push.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 10:58 AM (yAor6)

203 I think I just blew my wad!

Posted by: Gerg at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (vDl/w)

204 OT - The Prime Minster of Syria defected to Jordan.

Also, in unconfirmed news, Twitter is abuzz claiming that Bashar Al-Assad has been injured or killed, with the purported source being the Russian ambassador.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (e0xKF)

205 196 @168, I believe the polls were wrong in 2004, they were quite wrong in 1980. In 2008, even McCain led in some polls as some point. I don't necessarily think the polls are wrong, they are just pollingthe wrong thing. They are only polling an outcome based on today. Perhaps if the election were held today, Obama would win. But what will the polls say after Mitt is formally nominated, after people start paying more attention, after more media ads.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 10:57 AM (gmeXX)

As a pole, I resent that

Posted by: Lil' Mynx Removable Dance Poles at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (136wp)

206 but I tend to read, think,

Now now thinking is against the Moron Way.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (VtjlW)

207 The two or three that corrected an honest mistake shortly afterward? Just spitballin' here, but I tend to read, think, then post. YMMV

That presupposes that Greg McDragonfly can think.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (8y9MW)

208 Opportunity and I vote for Mitt.

Barsoom for Mitt!

Posted by: Curiosity at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (5JwLu)

209 During his recent trip to Europe and Israel, Mitt Romney’s failure to take many questions from the frustrated reporters traveling with him sparked an uproar in Washington, even though Romney did in fact hold a press availability during the trip.

Obama’s silencing of the White House press corps has drawn no similar protest.

To the contrary, Daily Caller White House reporter Neil Munro was derided by his colleagues when he interrupted Obama’s remarks in the Rose Garden June 15 to try to ask about immigration. Munro said he thought Obama had finished.

It turns out that was one of the last questions any White House reporter has asked the president.

Posted by: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (e8kgV)

210 Also remember that the media have both an ideological and a business-case motivation to have a "close-race" narrative for as long as they can semi-credibly sell it. Manipulating polling samples for top-line headline numbers will continue until is can't credibly. A forgone conclusion Romney win more than 30 days before election day will depress both Dem voters and eyeballs watching news shows.

I don't worry about Romney likely voters staying home if they think he has it in the bag. The desire to beat Obama's ass and "send a message" is pretty strong. Witness last Wednesday. OTOH, Obama voters are decidedly lukewarm outside of the 20% hardcore Lefty base. They will bail on voting if they think Obama is toast.

The media will do all in its [more and more meager] power to put off that reckoning as long as they credibly can.

Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 06, 2012 11:00 AM (dcoFe)

211 203 I think I just blew my wad!
Posted by: Gerg at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (vDl/w)

Your boyfriends name is wade, it's spelled with and e at the end. Gives it the long vowel sound.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:01 AM (9TTOe)

212 Just wondering, are all the Olympics ads national, or local? I know we see a lot in Iowa (both Romney and Obama ads), but what about everywhere else?

Posted by: Jay in Ames at August 06, 2012 11:01 AM (UEEex)

213 It doesn't matter who the VP pick is because, good or bad, it's publicity.

That said: Ignore all the wishing for a rock star pick and focus on who is most likely to reinforce Romney's message discipline. Romney knows that his only job between now and November is to convince voters that he would be a suitable replacement for the JEF. He doesn't need someone who can help carry this state or that state: He needs someone who helps him say, "I am competent enough to do a better job than the JEF."

The person that fits the bill is: Older but not old; has a record of accomplishments; has been elected or served in public office before; probably ex-military. If there was a version of Rick Perry that hadn't stepped all over his dick, he'd be the ideal VP.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 06, 2012 11:01 AM (imtbm)

214 204
OT - The Prime Minster of Syria defected to Jordan.

Also, in
unconfirmed news, Twitter is abuzz claiming that Bashar Al-Assad has
been injured or killed, with the purported source being the Russian
ambassador.


Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (e0xKF)

Don't know why the Russians haven't put him and the wife on an airplane for Moscow. They should have known the jig was up when Bashar had to pull back to the Alawite areas on the coast.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 11:01 AM (RD7QR)

215 Now now thinking is against the Moron Way.

Somebody really should come up with the Creed of the Moron. Vastly entertaining.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 11:02 AM (da5Wo)

216 209 During his recent trip to Europe and Israel, Mitt Romney’s failure to take many questions from the frustrated reporters traveling with him sparked an uproar in Washington, even though Romney did in fact hold a press availability during the trip.

Obama’s silencing of the White House press corps has drawn no similar protest.

To the contrary, Daily Caller White House reporter Neil Munro was derided by his colleagues when he interrupted Obama’s remarks in the Rose Garden June 15 to try to ask about immigration. Munro said he thought Obama had finished.

It turns out that was one of the last questions any White House reporter has asked the president.
Posted by: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (e8kgV)

Why should I answer question of the proles? I am the ELITE! Bow down before the magnificent glow of neurons. My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at August 06, 2012 11:02 AM (136wp)

217 If Romney wins anything but those Bible thumpin', bitter clingin', inbred, Southern hillbilly states, there is rampant fraud going on!

Posted by: GErg(le) at August 06, 2012 11:02 AM (WGmy2)

218 We saw a lot of Dewhurst ads in Texas. Those worked out well.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:02 AM (gmeXX)

219
Ask Obama questions?

Why does the demi-god need a press conference?

Presumptious bumpkins.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:03 AM (RFeQD)

220 Reminder: Greg said 63 seats in 2010 was not a wave, as he lied and claimed he was on our side

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:03 AM (yAor6)

221 214 The Russians want him to stick it out and win or they lose face.I doubt they really care if he lives or dies if he falls.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:03 AM (6o4Fb)

222 OT - The Prime Minster of Syria defected to Jordan.

Also, in
unconfirmed news, Twitter is abuzz claiming that Bashar Al-Assad has
been injured or killed, with the purported source being the Russian
ambassador.


Great, possibly another lawless out of control muzztard nation with stocks of Chemical weapons. HOOORAY!!!

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:03 AM (9TTOe)

223 Isnt it now clear that the reason details of the pink-haired fanook have been scant is because his motivation is (I strongly believe) Occupy/left wing/anti-capitalist?

And less than, what, 12 hours, after the Sikhs get killed we All About the shooter and his motivations.

The WI shooting fits the narrative, whereas the CO shooting hurts the Left Wing.


Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:03 AM (xIRXC)

224 I think we worry too much about the VP pick. It doesn't matter. No matter who is picked, the media will pick him apart. If the Dems nominate an clown, no one cares.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:04 AM (gmeXX)

225 The Harry Reid tax return thing is just the beginning of the mud. You never, ever hear pundits warning Democrats that it makes the middle scared.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 06, 2012 11:05 AM (7vSU0)

226
The media will cover its ass about misleading polls just like they did in the Reagan/Carter election. When it comes down to the election, they will be talking about an "unexpected, last minute shift" in the electorate.

"Who could have predicted this outcome?"

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 11:05 AM (ZDsRL)

227 OT: Live news conf on Sikh Temple Shooting (Fox6 in WI): http://tinyurl.com/888dash

Posted by: Baldy at August 06, 2012 11:05 AM (opS9C)

228 Hi homies! I'm TOTALLY on your side. A real conservative, you sister-humping redne--- I mean, totally on your side. You know, I think we should consider the possibility that this thing could go badly, you gun-totin' mutant---uh, my old buddies.

Posted by: Dr. Gerg Dragonfly-Smith, noted poll expert at August 06, 2012 11:05 AM (RD7QR)

229 It turns out that was one of the last questions any White House reporter has asked the president.
Posted by: Baron Vladimir Harkonnen at August 06, 2012 10:59 AM (e8kgV)

That's because they're not there to ask questions. Obama has the gall to give them their talking points *in public*.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at August 06, 2012 11:06 AM (S//GH)

230 Don't know why the Russians haven't put him and the wife on an
airplane for Moscow. They should have known the jig was up when Bashar
had to pull back to the Alawite areas on the coast.

I think the Russians are convinced that their client state will be fine if they just pour enough guns and ammo into the area.

They did that with Chechnya for years and, while it's worked, it hasn't solved the problem.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 11:06 AM (e0xKF)

231 174 Stop it with the negative waves. Mitt will take VA, PA and every fucking thing absent MA.

Even the Wag the Dog is not going to save this dickhead.



Time to pull out all the stops and run a picture of a shirtless Obama, rising from the sea...

Posted by: runningrn at August 06, 2012 11:06 AM (WGmy2)

232 When Mitt wins Hillary will do a crips dance.

Posted by: eman at August 06, 2012 11:07 AM (5JwLu)

233 Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:03 AM (xIRXC)

---

That and the labels they use to describe the incidents. Hassans shooting in Ft Hood is STILL referred to as workplace violence by some of the talking bobbleheads....

The Sikh shooter was proclaimed a "domestic terrorist" from the git go.


Im thinking it wont be long until the skinhead is described as a "tea partier", "typical Republican" and "Romney Supporter".

Posted by: fixerupper at August 06, 2012 11:08 AM (C8hzL)

234
I think we worry too much about the VP pick. It doesn't matter. No matter who is picked, the media will pick him apart. If the Dems nominate an clown, no one cares.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:04 AM (gmeXX)


This. Happily the fools will keep Biden, so the VP debates will be good for our side (to the extent that anyone pays attention). If we can't pick someone who can pound Biden in a debat, then all is truly lost. That dude is one of the stupidest people alive.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:08 AM (xUM1Q)

235
The Reagan / Carter election was somewhat clouded by the presence of John Anderson, who got ~ 6% of the popular vote.

I think the final (approximate)percentage (popular vote) was
Reagon 50%
Carter 44%
Anderson 6%

The electoral vote was much more lop-sided.

Barring any kind of significant third party, there will be quite a bit of "indecision" up until 2-3 weeks before the election.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:09 AM (RFeQD)

236
btw, terrorism, are you shittin me?

terrorism is an act of violence to force political change

there is absolutely no evidence of that in WI, whereas Ft Hood...

they really wanted to call it a Hate Crime but instead they decided to go for the jackpot...terrorism...

white terrorism.

(btw, the president's skin color is dark...just like those Sikhs, if you get my drift, nudge, nudge, racism...)

Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:09 AM (k+YdJ)

237 Im thinking it wont be long until the skinhead is described as a "tea partier", "typical Republican" and "Romney Supporter".



Well, duh!!!

Posted by: MFM at August 06, 2012 11:10 AM (WGmy2)

238
O/T: Gutsy Landing?

http://tinyurl.com/cj53b7o

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 11:10 AM (UuLBC)

239 156 Ryan is needed for the budgeting committee

Having served his six years, he is going to need to receive a waiver to retain his chairmanship. The Steering Committee will probably make an exception in his case but there is no guarantee.

http://bit.ly/IBWMHS

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 06, 2012 11:10 AM (YjDyJ)

240 "I believe the polls were wrong in 2004, they were quite wrong in 1980. In 2008, even McCain led in some polls as some point."

Here are the final Bush/Kerry polls. Look pretty accurate to me...


Poll Date Sample Bush (R) Kerry (D) Spread
Final Results -- -- 50.7 48.3 Bush +2.4
RCP Average 10/27 - 11/1 -- 48.9 47.4 Bush +1.5
Marist 11/1 - 11/1 -- 49 50 Kerry +1
GW/Battleground 10/31 - 11/1 -- 50 46 Bush +4
IBD/TIPP 10/30 - 11/1 -- 50.1 48 Bush +2.1
CBS News 10/29 - 11/1 -- 49 47 Bush +2
Harris 10/29 - 11/1 -- 49 48 Bush +1
FOX News 10/30 - 10/31 -- 46 48 Kerry +2
Reuters/Zogby 10/29 - 10/31 -- 48 47 Bush +1
CNN/USA Today/Gallup 10/29 - 10/31 -- 49 49 Tie
NBC/WSJ 10/29 - 10/31 -- 48 47 Bush +1
ABC/Wash Post 10/28 - 10/31 -- 49 48 Bush +1
ARG 10/28 - 10/30 -- 48 48 Tie
CBS News/NY Times 10/28 - 10/30 -- 49 46 Bush +3
Pew Research 10/27 - 10/30 -- 51 48 Bush +3
Newsweek 10/27 - 10/29 -- 50 44 Bush +6

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:11 AM (eX3h/)

241 237 Im thinking it wont be long until the skinhead is described as a "tea partier", "typical Republican" and "Romney Supporter".



Well, duh!!!
Posted by: MFM at August 06, 2012 11:10 AM (WGmy2)

Give us a chance, we deleted the template copy...

Posted by: MFM - too at August 06, 2012 11:11 AM (136wp)

242 If the Dems nominate an clown, no one cares.
Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:04 AM (gmeXX)
--------------------------------------------------------
When have they ever done that?

Posted by: Joey Biden at August 06, 2012 11:12 AM (jucos)

243 His supporters have a frightening aspect as if the second term is a done deal and they've moved on to planning and executing their goals.

"Nothing is a sure thing,, ask michaela maroney" is what my response to them has been. They cockily answers, "this is"

Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:12 AM (oZfic)

244 lol Old Sailor.. that's pretty funny.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 06, 2012 11:13 AM (l/N7H)

245
Whatever Obama’s number is at 10 pm Eastern, add those 78 EV’s—they’re a mortal lock, and a hefty insurance policy.

Hell, I guess there's not much point in holding an election then. Go ahead, Barry, you have four more years to lead us to the Promised Land.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 06, 2012 11:13 AM (oX7vY)

246 @235 Reagan lead the final Gallup poll by a mere 3 points. The final popular vote was Reagan 51% Carter 41% Anderson 7% Others/Etc 1%. Of course Gallup was using an RV model. They didn't start LV models until other cycles.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:13 AM (yAor6)

247 smells like catpiss

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:13 AM (yAor6)

248 Obama the ass sucking liar, and the ass sucking liars around him.

Posted by: Berserker at August 06, 2012 11:13 AM (FMbng)

249 @240. Thank you. Good post. Now please post the final polling numbers for this election.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:14 AM (gmeXX)

250 "Nothing is a sure thing,, ask michaela maroney" is what my response to them has been. They cockily answers, "this is"

Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:12 AM (oZfic)
Am I the only one who is tired of our side having to win beyond the margin of fraud? That margin is fatter each year. Yet the idiots we elect do nothing to fight it.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:14 AM (xUM1Q)

251
"Whatever Obama’s number is at 10 pm Eastern..."

At 10 PM Eastern, the networks will be reporting New Jersey is too close to call.

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 11:15 AM (ZDsRL)

252 @240 exit polls were wrong about Kerry which is what they are referring to. Those polls are based on LV models. RV models had Kerry ahead, (ie: Gallup's final polls). Kerry lead at this point in 2004, that proves right there that your claim Obama is going to win because he leads RV polls today means he's a lock is ridiculous. But please do keep liying and making an ass out of yourself.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:16 AM (yAor6)

253
The thing to remember about older polls is that the further back you go, the less overtly and carelessly partisan the polling was. Every year it gets worse, as the left has come to see the polling data as a tool rather than a metric. From now forward, poll results will be more and more suspect every year.


Also, it's hard to imagine, but there was a time when a small, select group of elected Dems were not total law-breaking turdbags. That time has now passed, but there was a time.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:16 AM (xUM1Q)

254 i don't have high hopes of winning VA. Northern Va is blue, blue, blue

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (p3a8+)

255 I leave lurking to comment some here and Greg and curious troll the same thread. FML?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (yAor6)

256 Can I get Tomosky to come be a guest speaker at our Democrat Women's club? He is so darn smart.

Posted by: Liberal Airhead at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (+XVQe)

257 Scott Walker? TOTALLY goin' down. But I'm on your side! Truly!

Posted by: Dr. Gerg Dragonfly-Smith, noted poll expert at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

258 What is happening is that those who aren't hooked into politics are thinking this is a done deal, that the president will win a second term. So people who were getting annoyed at the jobs numbers are now saying "well, maybe I should vote for him again, cause he's winning". This isn't American Idol, this is the Presidential election and they can't seem to be able to see the difference.

Those are the people that worry me.

Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (oZfic)

259 Just for fun I was counting sidearms at our Church a couple of sundays ago. About 200 parishioners, 9 sidearms.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:18 AM (9TTOe)

260 Killing Bashear would be low on my bucket list as as Syrian rebel, his kin are hardcore and he might be the moderating influence.

Posted by: Jean at August 06, 2012 11:18 AM (JjNG+)

261 Those are the people that worry me.Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (oZfic)Universal suffrage. Worse idea EVER.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:18 AM (xUM1Q)

262
I love how shocked and amazed the Dems are every four years when that whole pesky electoral college thing appears.

The irony is that not that long ago they were mortally opposed to the Electoral College, and wanted to replace it with direct popular vote (easier to game through fraud in Democrat-infested areas).

They're always fighting the last war, as in MA, where they changed the law on filling a Senate vacancy. Having a Republican governor, they changed the law so that the governor no longer appointed a replacement, but had to call a special election. But when Ted Kennedy (/spit) died, they had a Democrat governor, so they would've been happier with the old law, but they now had to call a special election, which Republican Scott Brown won.

You have to laugh.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 06, 2012 11:19 AM (oX7vY)

263 255 I leave lurking to comment some here and Greg and curious troll the same thread. FML?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (yAor6)

so making a comment, giving an opinion, that doesn't agree somehow with your opinion is now called "trolling"?

Last night on the curiosity thread there was a new "curious" with a new hashtag. so maybe you want to address that person.

Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:19 AM (oZfic)

264 #258: that is what worries me too. it is incomprehensible to me that the black population is going to vote for Bambi since young black male unemployment is what, like 25% or higher. don't they get it?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 06, 2012 11:19 AM (p3a8+)

265 260
Killing Bashear would be low on my bucket list as as Syrian rebel, his
kin are hardcore and he might be the moderating influence.

Posted by: Jean at August 06, 2012 11:18 AM (JjNG+)

Seems to me that the Alawites don't have many options, so they might as well fight. I doubt the Muslim Brotherhood is going to give a bunch of Shia apostates a break.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 11:20 AM (RD7QR)

266 @263 *sighs* same old dumbass curious

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:20 AM (yAor6)

267 Just for fun I was counting sidearms at our Church a couple of sundays ago. About 200 parishioners, 9 sidearms.Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:18 AM (9TTOe)That's good to hear. Those Sikhs could have learned a thing or two from your church.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:20 AM (xUM1Q)

268




Presidential

Candidate


Popular Vote


Electoral
Vote





Ronald Reagan


Republican


43,903,230


50.75%


489


90.9%




James Carter


Democratic


35,480,115


41.01%


49


9.1%




John Anderson


Independent


5,719,850


6.61%


0


0.0%




Edward Clark


Libertarian


921,128


1.06%


0


0.0%




Barry Commoner


Citizens


233,052


0.27%


0


0.0%




Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:20 AM (RFeQD)

269 257Scott Walker? TOTALLY goin' down. But I'm on your side! Truly!
Posted by: Dr. Gerg Dragonfly-Smith, noted poll expert at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (RD7QR)
Gray Davis? A lock!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 06, 2012 11:21 AM (oX7vY)

270 Kelley, always has been and with high turnout. That turnout really cant go much higher or bluer. Obama needs the turn out in Richmond and the Tidewater to be better then 2008, and thats not happening.

Posted by: Jean at August 06, 2012 11:21 AM (JjNG+)

271

Well crap, another formatting fail.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:21 AM (RFeQD)

272 Even the Wag Wagyu the Dog is not going to save this dickhead.
Fixed. Fixed good with onions.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at August 06, 2012 11:21 AM (vDl/w)

273 Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:20 AM (RFeQD)

If your dick was as long as this post, you would be a porn star.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:22 AM (9TTOe)

274 Am I the only one who is tired of our side having to
win beyond the margin of fraud? That margin is fatter each year. Yet
the idiots we elect do nothing to fight it.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:14 AM (xUM1Q)


The Election Accountability Project is doing good work. There are branches in Texas, California and other states.

http://www.electionintegrityproject.com/

Posted by: Arms Merchant at August 06, 2012 11:22 AM (+XVQe)

275 So if 135K jobs for the entire country, for the entire month of July, is good enough to propel Obama to a 2-point lead on Rasmussen (today's polling, Ras' assessment), then we are well and truly choomed.

I await my fate to be shot in the head at some smelly Arby's waiting for my curly fries by some tattooed jackass receiving orders from his pet ferret who will then receive 40+ years of psychological counseling.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (Ec6wH)

276
Dana Loesch is in for Glenn Beck, today.

Anybody else notice the significance or interestjng aspect of this?

Dana is from Breitbart. Glenn and Andrew Breitbart were not at all friends, whatsoever.

Evidently Glenn Beck and The Breitbart group made peace and are now allies, which is nice.

Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (atmwW)

277 jean, thanks for your small ray of hope for Va. As a native Virginian, I am personally humiliated to have my Commonwealth as a blue state. We are working hard in 5CD to change what we can.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (p3a8+)

278 If your dick was as long as this post, you would be a porn star.

And I do believe that's our first pron mention of the day. Congrats OSP.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (da5Wo)

279 on turnout, in 2008 it was D+7. In 2010 it was even. pollsters are polling like it'll be 08 and some (Pew and NBC) have polled even bigger turnouts then that for the Dems. Problem is, Ras Gallup both track turnout and both think the electorate will be anywhere from D+2 at worst for us, to R+1 at best.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (yAor6)

280 265
260
Killing Bashear would be low on my bucket list as as Syrian rebel, his
kin are hardcore and he might be the moderating influence.

Posted by: Jean at August 06, 2012 11:18 AM (JjNG+) Seems
to me that the Alawites don't have many options, so they might as well
fight. I doubt the Muslim Brotherhood is going to give a bunch of Shia
apostates a break.

I'm just hoping that both sides entrench themselves. A protracted fight between AQ / Muslim Brotherhood / etc on one side and the Alawites / Iranians / Hezbollah / Russian and Chinese support and the other side may open up some opportunities elsewhere, such as kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (e0xKF)

281 The comment section could be 50% Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT and it still wouldn't be enough for me.

Posted by: Clownf*cker at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (kZVsz)

282 The funny thing about the Reagan-Carter election was that Anderson was supposed to be a dirty trick by the Dems to siphon votes from Reagan. Instead,he was so damned liberal and the donks hated Carter so much he siphoned votes from Carter instead.


Reagan won 47 States.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (YdQQY)

283 Harry Reid's spokesman calls Preibus, Graham "cowards" and "henchman for Romney"







http://preview.tinyurl.com/d3mcplh



Most laughable quote- "'They couldn’t hold a candle to Harry Reid.'"

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 06, 2012 11:24 AM (YjDyJ)

284 Your boyfriends name is wade, it's spelled with and e at the end. Gives it the long vowel sound.
Usually my mouth is full so I can't pronounce anything!

Posted by: Gerg at August 06, 2012 11:24 AM (vDl/w)

285 @254 - This is what confuses me about your statement that VA is blue blue blue. (1) That is simply not true. It voted for Obama, yes, but so did IN. It is a historically Republican state and has a popular GOP gov. So even if it votes Obama again, to call it blue blue blue is just wrong. Maybe it is changing, so ... (2) VA is fiarly red, other than NOVA. But NOVA is exactly the type of area that a moderate like Mitt is to excel in. It is basically one big suburb. This will be an interesting test to see if a moderate GOP nominee can truly win the suburbs like we have been told.

The obvious caveat is that it is doing well because of the federal government. But a lot of those are related to the military, so that should favor the GOP.

Frankly, I just don't see VA voting again for Obama, but if they do, I hope we retire the idea that moderates are needed to win the suburban vote.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:24 AM (gmeXX)

286 Mitt wins MN, PA, and VA. It's not close.

If Mitt wins MN, his first executive order will be to issue 1 million hunting licenses for the necessary flying pig season.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (SY2Kh)

287 276

Dana also has a radio show, so she's an experienced fill-in.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (MMC8r)

288 Most laughable quote- "'They couldn�t hold a candle to Harry Reid.'"

Not so laughable when you realize where Harry Reid has been sticking candles on little boys for years.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (e0xKF)

289
don't they get it?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 06, 2012 11:19 AM (p3a8+)

3 words. Single Issue Voters.

The Dems have been the cause of nearly all problems that black Americans have suffered. It doesn't matter.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (xUM1Q)

290 @164: I noticed you're not denying the "dirty" part though. (snicker)

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (izA2D)

291 VA is now a "purple State" thanks to all the libtards moving into Northern VA to work for the government.


It will go to Romney though this time.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 11:26 AM (YdQQY)

292 The Dems have been the cause of nearly all problems that black Americans have suffered. It doesn't matter.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (xUM1Q)

You left off - because "they care", results don't matter, it's how you feel

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (136wp)

293 Frankly, I just don't see VA voting again for Obama, but if they do, I
hope we retire the idea that moderates are needed to win the suburban
vote.

The reason VA may go Obama is that the DC beltway is one of the few areas with a lot of growth in the past 4 years, with Virginia getting a lot of that growth because of the hard-left policies of the DC and MD governments.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (e0xKF)

294 The shooter is "terrorist" because he was white and he killed "people of color".

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (6o4Fb)

295 I'm just hoping that both sides entrench themselves. A protracted fight between AQ / Muslim Brotherhood / etc on one side and the Alawites / Iranians / Hezbollah / Russian and Chinese support and the other side may open up some opportunities elsewhere, such as kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 06, 2012 11:23 AM (e0xKF)

The choices in Syria are pretty clear actually. It's a choice between shitty, real shitty, batshit crazy shitty, and my head is throbbing and I don't want to think about it. But letting them all kill each other sounds ok to me.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (05RcU)

296 290 @164: I noticed you're not denying the "dirty" part though. (snicker)
Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 06, 2012 11:25 AM (izA2D)

I am many things. A liar is not one of them.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (9TTOe)

297
I wouldn't worry about Virginia. As Michael Barone has pointed out,

"...in the last three presidential elections, the winning candidate has won a percentage of the popular vote identical to or within 1% of the percentage of the popular vote for the House of Representatives in the election held two years before."

Dems only got 42% of the vote in 2010.

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (ZDsRL)

298 I hope Romney's first XO is that all Obama XOs are hereby cancelled and that every new regulation written or modified by the Obama regime is restored to pre-2009 status.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (YdQQY)

299
Well if you add Anderson's totals to Reagan's totals (from 1980) you just about get the Reagan vote total for 1984.

Hard to really say "who helped who", but while Anderson was an articulate man whom the Media loved, most of what he said sounded to me like total nonsense. Anderson drifted pretty farleft after 1980, too.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (RFeQD)

300 Obama's surging in Rasmussen due to the good jobs report...

Obama 47
Romney 45

Obama landslide coming...

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (t8tck)

301 Hey Ace-
Jerry Pournelle picked up on the pederast thing.
Chaos Manor: http://tinyurl.com/c5utfz4

Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (y67bA)

302 yeah and Dana is also very cute


Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (OA1Yc)

303 294 The shooter is "terrorist" because he was white and he killed "people of color".
Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:27 AM (6o4Fb)

Allah Ackbar!

Posted by: Nidal Hasan at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (136wp)

304 300 Obama's surging in Rasmussen due to the good jobs report...

Obama 47
Romney 45

Obama landslide coming...
Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (t8tck)

We have not yet begun to snark!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 06, 2012 11:29 AM (136wp)

305 302 yeah and Dana is also very cute


Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (OA1Yc)

Cute? She drips sex like honey off a comb.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:29 AM (9TTOe)

306 The choices in Syria the Middle East are pretty clear actually. It's a choice between
shitty, real shitty, batshit crazy shitty, and my head is throbbing and I
don't want to think about it. But letting them all kill each other
sounds ok to me.


FIFY

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (da5Wo)

307 Obama's surging in Rasmussen due to the good jobs report...



Obama 47

Romney 45



Obama landslide coming...

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (t8tck)


Is this a parody of a troll?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (1Jaio)

308 Hard to really say "who helped who", but while
Anderson was an articulate man whom the Media loved, most of what he
said sounded to me like total nonsense. Anderson drifted pretty farleft
after 1980, too.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:28 AM (RFeQD)

All the articles I have read said he took more votes from Carter.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (YdQQY)

309 @307 yes

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (yAor6)

310

Dana Loesch is the Chik-Fil-In

eh?eh?



Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (TXseM)

311 @293. Yes, true, but my guess is that DOD spending still accounts for the largest share of government spending in NOVA. Maybe I'm wrong. So I would think that those employees would be extremely worried about what would happen to that spending in a 2nd Obama administration.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (gmeXX)

312 Okay. Gerg is a sock to drive up comments, isn't he? It's done got laughable. Next stage: 'embarrassing.'

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (MMC8r)

313 Greg/Dragonfly/Toldyouso, you wouldn't happen to go by "Robbie" at another blog do you?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (yAor6)

314 OT Gibson guitars completely surrendered to the government.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (6o4Fb)

315 Is this a parody of a troll?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (1Jaio)

I think it's a parody of a parody, you know a pairody.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (9TTOe)

316 This is a cool interactive from the NYT's. Every once in a while they do something good:
http://tinyurl.com/96eobhx

It's about Olympic sprinting.

Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (oZfic)

317 The SCOAMT with easily get 270, in Europe.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (9HhTH)

318
Psychological bump from jobs report, so I'm sure that the Dem weighting went from +7 to +11.
These blips and bumps are going to keep happening between now and November. Are these likely voters or are they just registered voters?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (RFeQD)

319
eh?

Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (80Qb8)

320 255 I leave lurking to comment some here and Greg and curious troll the same thread. FML?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:17 AM (yAor6)

so making a comment, giving an opinion, that doesn't agree somehow with your opinion is now called "trolling"?

Last night on the curiosity thread there was a new "curious" with a new hashtag. so maybe you want to address that person.
Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 11:19 AM (oZfic)

I mistakenly typed "Curious" into the name box last night on the Mars thread. I meant to type "Curiosity".

For the record, oZfic, nearly everyone here knows you are a troll. There were doubts early on, but no more.

At least that's what all my friends in NYC say.

Posted by: eman at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (5JwLu)

321 @Steevy- Care for a full ride scholarship?

Posted by: Columbia School of Journalism at August 06, 2012 11:31 AM (3AGkp)

322
>>>Dana Loesch is in for Glenn Beck, today.

Dana is so much hotter than cute.

Posted by: garrett at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (Pdnm2)

323 "Is this a parody of a troll"

Then Scott Rasmussen must be a troll because he attributes the Obama surge in his tracking coming from the jobs report bump.

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (eX3h/)

324 Syria rebels threaten to execute Iranian captives
Published: 08.06.12, 18:13 / Israel News



Syrian rebels said three Iranian captives were killed on Monday during an air attack in Damascus province by government forces, and threatened to kill their remaining captives unless the army stopped its attack.

"They were killed when the aircraft attacked, one of the houses they were in collapsed over their heads," the group's spokesman, Moutassam al-Ahmad, told Reuters. "We will kill the rest if the army does not stop its assault. They have one hour." (AP)


"Kill the rest". Hey don't let me stand in your way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (05RcU)

325 "For the record, oZfic, nearly everyone here knows you are a troll. There were doubts early on, but no more." she's been labeled a troll for over a year now, why she hasn't been banned yet after some of her actions, i'll never know

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:33 AM (yAor6)

326
Vic
Only going on anecdotal word, from a few people that I know who voted for Anderson in 1980, and voted for Reagan in 1984. Means nothing (anecdotes), just my personal observation.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:33 AM (RFeQD)

327 The Election Accountability Project is doing good work. There are branches in Texas, California and other states.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at August 06, 2012 11:22 AM (+XVQe) Thanks for the link - that's a good thing. But I wonder - how many people are actually going to jail? Not enough - that much is certain.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:33 AM (xUM1Q)

328 @323 it's also just a 1 day poll. but please do keep making an ass out of yourself

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:34 AM (yAor6)

329 Rasmussen is likely voters.

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:34 AM (+nx7V)

330 Getting excited about any particular poll/map/pundit spew this far out is either A) a waste of time or B) an excuse to masterbate to "Dear Leaders" greatness.

You guys are wasting time. Greg is, well, lets say there was a reason I put option B into the comment.

And 8.3% unemployment is a great jobs report........anyone else long for the days of the bad job number of 5.3% under Bush?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 11:34 AM (OWjjx)

331 so many troll parody around, who knows which is the real one?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (yAor6)

332
Then Scott Rasmussen must be a troll because he attributes the Obama surge in his tracking coming from the jobs report bump.

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (eX3h/)


Yes, because the jobs report was so spectacular.
Where were you last week when those numbers were reversed....which would have meant, according to your logic, a Romney landslide?

Posted by: Tami at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (X6akg)

333 Not me!

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (ggRof)

334 From Rasmussen today...

"President Obama appears to be enjoying a bounce in the polls following last Friday’s jobs report.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows President Obama attracting 47% of the vote, while Mitt Romney earns support from 45%. Four percent (4%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

This is only the second time in more than two months of daily tracking that Obama has reached the 47% level of support. Prior to today, he had led Romney on only one of the preceding 34 days. Romney led by four on Friday morning just before the jobs report. See tracking history. As with all bounces, it remains to be seen whether this reflects a lasting change in the race or is merely statistical noise.

Forty percent (40%) say they are certain to vote for Romney and will not change their mind. Thirty-nine percent (39%) say the same of Obama. Among all voters not affiliated with either major party, Obama leads by nine."

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (Xa2if)

335 328 @323 it's also just a 1 day poll. but please do keep making an ass out of yourself
Posted by: AuthorLMendez at August 06, 2012 11:34 AM (yAor6)

Number one identifying mark of a troll - all lowercase sock.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (136wp)

336 I thought all trolls were average joe.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (9TTOe)

337 President BlameBush for four more years! He still has lots more new ways to blame Bush. /s

Posted by: theCork at August 06, 2012 11:35 AM (hbAdE)

338 Who sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 11:36 AM (MMC8r)

339
Over the past year I know I have hyperventilated several times about the 'one man - one vote' legislation several states have adopted. The purpose is to legally require a state's electors to cast their votes consistent with the national popular vote rather than how than how the majority of voters in thatstate voted and do so without amending the Constitution.

Perhaps sweet irony will bite the Dems in the ass yet. I took a second look at this. Most of the states that have adopted this legislation are in the tank dem states: Cal, Wash, Md, Ill, etc who are polling for BO. I would suggest to Romney that he do what he can to win the popular vote. There is not enough pudding in the world to sate my pudding lust if BO won the popular vote in Cal butloses its electoral votes because the national popular vote goes Romney. Like the old Palmolive soap ads with Madge: "You're soaking in it."

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (qwK3S)

340 I thought all trolls were average joe.

Who sucks cock by choice..............
or


By choice, sucks cock..................

or

Making a chice, chooses to suck cock.

Posted by: The Commentor Who Reminds Everyone that Average Joe Sucks Cock By Choice at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (OWjjx)

341 The PA voter ID law provides for free proof of citizenship for anyone who can't seem to locate it. Do you know how easy it is to get a birth certificate? Google PA vital records. It takes you to a site where you can get a copy of BC.

I don't think it can be a copy, it has to have a "raised seal."

Gotta say, here in PA, the Voter ID law makes me a little uncomfortable. I'm used to routinely defending conservative/GOP ideas, anytime, anywhere. But this one is tough. With few cases of voter fraud prosecuted (I know, how can you prosecute what you can't identify?) it makes for a tough argument, especially since the state keeps revising upward its estimates of people who currently lack acceptable ID.

I was born and raised in Philadelphia, so I know how Dems do elections. I knew how they would get dementia patients in nursing homes to sign absentee ballots, etc. But, man...

Finally, the PA House GOP leader who announced that the new law will allow Romney to win PA has YET to go out and explain his remarks, which made national news. Maybe there was no easy way to do this, but damn...

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (9KqcB)

342 Pelosi defends Reid, says his story on Romney taxes 'is true'

"'Harry Reid made a statement that is true. Somebody told him. It is a
fact,' Pelosi said to The Huffington Post on Sunday. [...]

Earlier on Sunday Republican National Committee Chairman Reince
Priebus and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) both strongly criticized Reid's
claim. Priebus called Reid a 'dirty liar' for the accusation.

When asked about Priebus's comment, Pelosi initially said 'Who?'

'Well
he doesn't know that,' Pelosi added. 'Harry Reid is a person who is, as
we know, A, is a fighter, B, he wouldn't say this unless it was true
that somebody told him that.'"http://bit.ly/Ms0pb6

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (YjDyJ)

343 Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes...Free Miss Marple! at August 06, 2012 11:20 AM (RFeQD)

Notepad is your friend. Unlike the formatting here.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (VtjlW)

344 What with AverageJoe out there and the speculation that Curious is Ace I'm starting to wonder if there are any real trolls on this blog.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (9HhTH)

345 The most painful part of election night 2008 was seeing my adopted Commonwealth (http://minx.cc/?post=277447 ) break for Teh Won.

So if there's a West Virginia, can there be a South Virginia? I think we'd be better served with more states.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 06, 2012 11:38 AM (Ec6wH)

346 B, he wouldn't say this unless it was true that somebody told him that.

Sounds air-tight!

Posted by: Politifact at August 06, 2012 11:38 AM (TZaAF)

347
"They were killed when the aircraft attacked, one of the houses they were in collapsed over their heads," the group's spokesman, Moutassam al-Ahmad, told Reuters. "We will kill the rest if the army does not stop its assault. They have one hour." (AP)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (05RcU)

While I am in no way a fan of the muz or their deeds, we could learn from them in this case. They know how to make other muz pay attention. Violence. Nothing but violence. Lots of it, pre-announced when convenient, and always carried through with.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:39 AM (xUM1Q)

348 Why the Republicans are not running wall-to-wall ads about Obama clipping $500B out of Medicare is a mystery to me.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (evdj2)

349 Please give to the dyslexic sock fund. It's for the diks.

Posted by: Gerg at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (vDl/w)

350 Gotta say, here in PA, the Voter ID law makes me a little uncomfortable. I'm used to routinely defending conservative/GOP ideas, anytime, anywhere. But this one is tough.

It should not be harder to cash a check than to vote. It should not be more difficult to get into a Federal courthouse than to vote. It should not require more proof of id to get a Wal Mart charge card than to vote.



Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (VtjlW)

351 Not spending any money in Washington state? So are those Obama ads I have seenPSAs?

Not saying Mitt will win WA just saying Obama is paying for TV time.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (C2//T)

352 346 One of curious's friends(cats) told Harry Reid that Mitt didn't pay taves for 10 years.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (6o4Fb)

353


"Kill the rest". Hey don't let me stand in your way

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (05RcU)

Yes, no good guys here. I feel bad for the average Syrian who's caught in the middle, but as for the Iranians/Bashar's thugs/MB/all the rest -- let them kill each other in great, bloody batches, please.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 11:41 AM (RD7QR)

354 Greg, of course, does not suck cock by choice.

Greg sucks cock for a living.

Posted by: The Commentor Who Reminds Everyone that Greg Sucks Cock For A Living at August 06, 2012 11:42 AM (OWjjx)

355
"Finally, the PA House GOP leader who announced that the new law will allow Romney to win PA has YET to go out and explain his remarks..."

I'm fairly sure he meant that with only live, legal citizens voting in PA, Romney will win.

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 11:42 AM (ZDsRL)

356 It should not be harder to cash a check than to vote. It should not be more difficult to get into a Federal courthouse than to vote. It should not require more proof of id to get a Wal Mart charge card than to vote.
Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (VtjlW)


And let's not forget it should not require more proof of id to buy a pack of cigarettes or a Mike's Hard Lemonade than to vote.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 11:42 AM (4df7R)

357 GOOD jobs report? It just sucked less than expected and they had to massively play with the birth/death and seasonal adjustments ghost jobs to get that

We kept hearing how the 1Q was going to be the surge in the economy that would make it a walk for the SCOAMF. The revised numbers were European level suckage

Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (Y7XKa)

358 Am I the only one who dosen't worry about the National Popular Vote act? If individual states want to use the national popular vote to allocate their electoral college votes, what do I care. I suspect it wouldn't last long, because it would have unintended consequences - a law that liberals have never yet found to exist. I find nothing constiutionally objectionable about it. And if individual states want to neutar themselves in that way, so be it.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (gmeXX)

359 355
"Finally, the PA House GOP leader who announced that the new law will allow Romney to win PA has YET to go out and explain his remarks..."

I'm fairly sure he meant that with only live, legal citizens voting in PA, Romney will win.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 11:42 AM (ZDsRL)

No justice, no... BRAINS!

Posted by: Zombie PA Voters at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (136wp)

360 @ 212,
They are national, we get them in Maryland as well.

Posted by: Ed Wood vs Godzilla at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (Lku11)

361
It should not be harder to cash a check than to vote. It should not be more difficult to get into a Federal courthouse than to vote. It should not require more proof of id to get a Wal Mart charge card than to vote.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (VtjlW)


Amen. Indeed, there should be hurdles to voting, so that only the truly committed would get registered. It should be inconvenient. It should be unpleasant. And it SHOULD COST MONEY. At least some tiny sum - like $10. Or whatever amount equates to the cost of a cheap fifth of vodka. That alone would almost assuredly gain us a couple points in every election.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (xUM1Q)

362 There is not enough pudding in the world to sate my pudding lust if BO
won the popular vote in Cal butloses its electoral votes because the
national popular vote goes Romney. Like the old Palmolive soap ads with
Madge: "You're soaking in it."


That. Would. Be. Awesome.

However I'm still hoping for a 269-269 electoral tie, with the GOP House electing Romney. Nancy Pelosi's blood pressure would be high enough to initiate cold fusion.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (SY2Kh)

363 Greg sucks cock for a living.

It's an avocation, not an occupation.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 11:43 AM (MMC8r)

364 Meh, popular vote would be a great thing.

I hate living in blue states where there is absolutely no reason to campaign there or appeal to the voters.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 11:44 AM (xAtAj)

365 Nothing but violence. Lots of it, pre-announced when convenient

The warning and offer of capitulation is actually a requirement of the Koran when dealing with other Muslims.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:44 AM (Ev4Um)

366 I'd be open to reasons why popular vote is bad, but I've never heard a good reason.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 11:45 AM (xAtAj)

367 So, Gerg.....Izzat all you got?

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 11:45 AM (MMC8r)

368 365 Nothing but violence. Lots of it, pre-announced when convenient

The warning and offer of capitulation is actually a requirement of the Koran when dealing with other Muslims.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:44 AM (Ev4Um)

And before a Muzzie does his goat...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 06, 2012 11:45 AM (136wp)

369 Approaching 400 comments and Noon Eastern. We can haz new post?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 11:45 AM (4df7R)

370 That's nothin'. I been trollin' 300,000,000 of you for YEARS.

Posted by: Choom Lord Soetoro at August 06, 2012 11:45 AM (Qr2ZV)

371 The warning and offer of capitulation is actually a requirement of the Koran when dealing with other Muslims.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:44 AM (Ev4Um) Interesting. I wonder how often it's actually followed...My bet - seldom.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:46 AM (xUM1Q)

372 Finally, the PA House GOP leader who announced that
the new law will allow Romney to win PA has YET to go out and explain
his remarks, which made national news. Maybe there was no easy way to do
this, but damn...

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM

I'd like to hear the Dems explain their lawsuit to keep active military from absentee and early voting. But hey, they say they support the troops, saying it is enough, right?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2012 11:46 AM (Y7XKa)

373 And it SHOULD COST MONEY. At least some tiny sum - like $10.

It already does. Most places pull their jury duty lists from voting rolls. Jury duty is a financial burden for anyone with a job.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:46 AM (Ev4Um)

374 @317: What? A Gordon Ramsay sock without ONE F-bomb? Needs moar realistic.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 06, 2012 11:46 AM (izA2D)

375 358 The Sates are free to divvy up electoral votes any way they want including proportionally.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:47 AM (6o4Fb)

376 Approaching 400 comments and Noon Eastern. We can haz new post


Relax, the Noon Open Thread will soon be here, followed by the Mid-Afternoon Open Thread, the Dinner Time Open Thread, Evening Open Thread and then the ONT.

Content Free AOSHQ...........This Fall!

Posted by: AOSHQ Scheduler at August 06, 2012 11:47 AM (OWjjx)

377 339 Over the past year I know I have hyperventilated several times about the 'one man - one vote' legislation several states have adopted. Most of the states that have adopted this legislation are in the tank dem states: Cal, Wash, Md, Ill, etc who are polling for BO. There is not enough pudding in the world to sate my pudding lust if BO won the popular vote in Cal butloses its electoral votes because the national popular vote goes Romney.

---------

Don't know about the other states, but I'm pretty certain the variant they were pushing here in CA had a "this law doesn't take effect until x% of other states also pass it" clause.

Meaning it won't make a difference this time 'round.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 06, 2012 11:48 AM (xGZ+b)

378 @325: We keep her alive to serve this ship. So, curious, row well and live.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 06, 2012 11:49 AM (izA2D)

379 I'd be open to reasons why popular vote is bad, but I've never heard a good reason.

It could render entire states irrelevant in the voting. Oddly and converse to the above, it would make the incentive for widespread vote fraud greater. Currently, there is no incentive to forge votes in the solid Red/Blue states, so the places to watch closely are less numerous.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 11:49 AM (evdj2)

380 Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 11:37 AM (9KqcB)
___

How is it tough? Upthread I already described how it costs $20. to get your BC online. That's if you use a credit card. If you pay by check it's $9.95. I've had to get both BCs and a death certificate for others in my family. It's not difficult.

And the voter ID law provides free ID for anyone who doesn't have one. Anyone in an identified vulnerable population has an ARRAY of county social services available to them to assist them in getting their ID - free of charge. And your state rep would be happy to assist, no matter which political affiliation. Constituent service is what keeps getting them re-elected.
Getting a valid ID can only help a citizen when they need one for any other various and sundry purposes. Any excuse with the people in vulnerable populations they're trotting out for propaganda is just bullshit. Instead of getting on busses to demonstrate in Harrisburg, why don't these people start their ID acquisition efforts now? They have plenty of time before November.

Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 11:49 AM (jm/9g)

381 This just in: Barack Obama is still a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 11:49 AM (8y9MW)

382
It already does. Most places pull their jury duty lists from voting rolls. Jury duty is a financial burden for anyone with a job.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:46 AM (Ev4Um)


True, but that's actually more of a problem than a solution. Jury duty is easy to get out of, especially for the scum. They just admit "I hate da po-po" and they're out.
I want this to be a burden that that trash of our civilization will choose to forego. I want them to have to give up some hawgmaws and beer for it.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:50 AM (xUM1Q)

383 Ol' Ace blew his load last week. A man's gotta sleep for a while after a shot like that.

Posted by: Choom Lord Soetoro at August 06, 2012 11:50 AM (Qr2ZV)

384 @375 - that's my point. If an individual state wants to award their electoral votes based on height, what do I care, unless it is my state. Assuming the National Popular Vote were the law in a state such as MD, that votes 60% for Obama, but then has to award its EV to Mitt because Mitt wins the popular election - I'm fairly certain that law would be repealed very quickly. The whole law is stupid frankly. But whatever.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:50 AM (gmeXX)

385 It has been brought to my attention that some wanker is socking me. Listen, donkey, f#!king get it right......you sockis crap! I've f#!king seen better socks on my dear old mum than what you are doing.

Posted by: Gordan Ramsey at August 06, 2012 11:50 AM (OWjjx)

386 356
It should not be harder to cash a check than to vote. It should not
be more difficult to get into a Federal courthouse than to vote. It
should not require more proof of id to get a Wal Mart charge card than
to vote.



And let's not forget it should not require more proof of id to buy a pack of cigarettes or a Mike's Hard Lemonade than to vote.


It should not require more proof of id to get a library card than it does to vote.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 11:50 AM (da5Wo)

387 364 Meh, popular vote would be a great thing.I hate living in blue states where there is absolutely no reason to campaign there or appeal to the voters.

-------

With popular vote, there would be no reason to compaign anywhere except NY, LA, and other similar large cities.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 06, 2012 11:51 AM (NmR1a)

388
" . . . won't make a difference this time 'round"

An unexpected rise in pudding futures this morning ebbed by the closing. Analysts claimed irrational exuberance.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 06, 2012 11:51 AM (qwK3S)

389 They keep having me interview these you would-be Dentists who are trying to get into the Navy? I feel like I am interviewing my replacements

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 06, 2012 11:52 AM (05RcU)

390 So what kind of boost do you think Obama is expecting from Bernake announcing QE3 which seems to be likely. Romney has already come out against it.

Posted by: small town girl at August 06, 2012 11:52 AM (XWMH0)

391 Posted by: Gordan Ramsey

He said more cursing, not misspelling his name.

Wanker!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 06, 2012 11:52 AM (uCNam)

392 want this to be a burden that that trash of our civilization will choose to forego. I want them to have to give up some hawgmaws and beer for it.

Yea, uh, the Supreme Court already threw all this stuff you want out once. Poll Tax.......struck down.

Voter ID and proper registration,,,,yes. After that, forget it.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (OWjjx)

393 Popular vote = mob rule. The electorate has proven over and over again its judgment isn't that good.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (Ev4Um)

394 OT can you say,"shakedown"?


Gibson Guitar Corp. agreed to settle charges that it illegally purchased and imported ebony wood from Madagascar and rosewood and ebony from India, the Justice Department said today.

The company will pay a $300,000 fine under a criminal enforcement agreement that defers prosecution for criminal violations of the Lacey Act. Another $50,000 fine will go to the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation “to be used to promote the conservation, identification and propagation of protected tree species used in the musical instrument industry and the forests where those species are found.”

Since May 2008, it has been illegal under the Lacey Act to import into the United States plants and plant products that have been harvested and exported in violation of the laws of another country. Raids of Gibson factories by federal authorities led to concerns from some guitar owners that they could also be found in violation and pursued for having instruments made of illegal wood.

Last August, Gibson officials accused the government of “bullying” the company. “Gibson has complied with foreign laws and believes it is innocent of any wrong doing. We will fight aggressively to prove our innocence.”

Under the agreement with the Justice and Interior departments, Gibson will also withdraw its civil claim to retrieve $261,844 worth of Madagascar ebony seized in a raid.

“As a result of this investigation and criminal enforcement agreement, Gibson has acknowledged that it failed to act on information that the Madagascar ebony it was purchasing may have violated laws intended to limit overharvesting and conserve valuable wood species from Madagascar, a country which has been severely impacted by deforestation,” said Assistant Attorney General Moreno. “Gibson has ceased acquisitions of wood species from Madagascar and recognizes its duty under the U.S. Lacey Act to guard against the acquisition of wood of illegal origin by verifying the circumstances of its harvest and export, which is good for American business and American consumers.”

The criminal enforcement agreement includes a detailed statement of facts describing the conduct for which Gibson accepts and acknowledges responsibility. Gibson received four shipments of Madagascar ebony fingerboard blanks from its supplier between October 2008 and September 2009.

Posted by: steevy at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (6o4Fb)

395


Then Scott Rasmussen must be a troll because he attributes the Obama surge in his tracking coming from the jobs report bump.

Posted by: toldyaso at August 06, 2012 11:32 AM (eX3h/)
The jobs report wasn't good enough to explain a 4-point shift in 1 day. More likely he just happened to get a bad 1-day sample, but pollsters don't like to admit they get bad samples.

Posted by: Jon at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (t2DGr)

396 Anything that moves us closer to popular vote is something I oppose. Popular vote is why we're in this vile mess to begin with. The populace as a whole does way too much voting, after way too little thinking.

Posted by: Reactionary at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (xUM1Q)

397 @60 SMOD has an app for that.

alexthehick - that was some weapons-grade funny, there. Thanks for that, I needed the laugh.

Posted by: docj at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (Vf9mM)

398
43Is it too late to do something about this California place?


Never too late to nuke us from space. I'll call down the strike on my own position, just to make sure we get the highest concentration of liberals.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 06, 2012 11:54 AM (oX7vY)

399 How can Obama be up by 9 points among unaffiliated voters?

Posted by: Unemployed since February at August 06, 2012 11:54 AM (06qTP)

400 I'm taking the day off and in a mellow mood. You want F-bombs? Tomorrow you shall have them.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at August 06, 2012 11:54 AM (9HhTH)

401 No. no. no.no.no. NNNOOOO!!!!!1!!! The Dems flee to Canada to prevent a vote a la Wisconsin and Texas fucktards. Barky rules indefinately.

Posted by: Beefy Chunk Blower at August 06, 2012 11:54 AM (yn6XZ)

402 That was for #362

Posted by: Beefy Chunk Blower at August 06, 2012 11:55 AM (yn6XZ)

403 Donkey fucking?! That's my job, Gorden Ramsey!

Posted by: Gerg at August 06, 2012 11:56 AM (vDl/w)

404 It should not be harder to cash a check than to vote. It should not be more difficult to get into a Federal courthouse than to vote. It should not require more proof of id to get a Wal Mart charge card than to vote.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 06, 2012 11:40 AM (VtjlW)

All true.

Just doesn't answer the "Solution in search of a problem" charge.

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 11:57 AM (9KqcB)

405 I got that covered.

Posted by: San Andrea's Fault at August 06, 2012 11:57 AM (yn6XZ)

406 That new Mars rover is big! Big as a car. I had no idea it was that big.

Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2012 11:57 AM (OlN4e)

407 Harry Reid is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable pederast.

The word is out. Just out there. For all to see.

Who will screech this in the well of the Senate?

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at August 06, 2012 11:58 AM (PH+2B)

408 @401. As a political junkie, I would love to see a tie just because it would be so historical and have so much drama built in - and also because we basically would win. But I would much rather see a landslide for Mitt that gives him a mandate to do some things. Good luck repealing Obamacare if you are awarded the Presidency via House vote.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 11:59 AM (gmeXX)

409 I'm fairly sure he meant that with only live, legal citizens voting in PA, Romney will win.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 11:42 AM (ZDsRL)

Me too. But when your statement becomes a key talking point across the nation for Dems and is used to put every conservative in the state on the defensive, you get your ass out there and fix it.

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 11:59 AM (9KqcB)

410
I just don't see Romney winning Ohio (as is depicted in the graphic). Obama has a pretty steady lead here. That makesfor a muchmore difficult path for Romney to win.
I've nearly resigned myself to another Obama win. If the US can produce one or two months of 200k job creation, he'll be a lock.

Posted by: Pigilito at August 06, 2012 11:59 AM (CU+o0)

411 This post is going to stay on top all day? Why? Some clown writessomething about Obama winning, and we can't find anything else to discuss?

Great.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 11:59 AM (TOk1P)

412 Popular vote = mob rule. The electorate has proven over and over again its judgment isn't that good.


Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 11:53 AM (Ev4Um)

So... we have EC that votes along the popular? Do you believe this is better?

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 12:00 PM (xAtAj)

413 @385: Much, much better. And this French Onion soup- looks like someone sliced onions into boiling dishwater. Tastes like someone pissed in it.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at August 06, 2012 12:01 PM (izA2D)

414 Some crazy woman just shot up a riverboat in Detroit...one critical. She got away.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:01 PM (Ev4Um)

415 Harry Reid is still a Mumbling clusterfuck of a miserable Senate Leader.

Posted by: Forrest Stump at August 06, 2012 12:01 PM (oCMdU)

416 Ok the only real thing I can think of is that it lets dirty states like IL pad the votes beyond their EC.

That's a real reason.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 12:02 PM (xAtAj)

417 >we can't find anything else to discuss?

The heat has turned 25th street here into a mess I wouldn't attempt in a little front wheel drive econobox. The one fool in town who bought a Prius hardest hit.

Posted by: Gordon undead Ramsay at August 06, 2012 12:02 PM (9HhTH)

418 Some crazy woman just shot up a riverboat in Detroit...one critical. She got away.

I have a webpage of a woman who is in the Tea Party....more when we have it.

Posted by: Brian Ross at August 06, 2012 12:02 PM (MMC8r)

419 414 Some crazy woman just shot up a riverboat in Detroit...one critical. She got away.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:01 PM (Ev4Um)

Her EBT card prolly ran out.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 12:02 PM (9TTOe)

420 406
That new Mars rover is big! Big as a car. I had no idea it was that big.

Posted by: maddogg at August 06, 2012 11:57 AM (OlN4e)

Part of the reason for the Rube Goldberg landing procedure.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 12:03 PM (RD7QR)

421 Put up the Ewok Signal.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 12:04 PM (evdj2)

422 So... we have EC that votes along the popular? Do you believe this is better?

In normal cases, it doesn't matter. If the public goes insane though, I'd like to hope that some adults might be in a position to correct that.

Selection of electors should be taken very seriously.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:04 PM (Ev4Um)

423 I have heard recently that Harry Reid enjoys a little sodomy with pre-teen boys from time to time. Maybe we could discuss that.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:05 PM (TOk1P)

424 Slightly OT but not really because in some ways every single post here is about Commie Fail:

For the second time in my life, I accidentally heard a fairly significant chunk of "Prairie Home Companion," and also for the second time in my life, I thought it was the most boring, unfunny, overrated thing I'd ever heard, ever. FWIW, I read/watch a lot from commies which I find funny, smart, or entertaining, and I'd like to know what I'm missing here.

Did it used to actually be funny, and Keiller went moonbat?
Was it never funny and it's the Barack Obama of radio programs?
Is it a Minnesota thing I'm just not getting?

Put me some f'ing knowledge here.

Posted by: Filly at August 06, 2012 12:06 PM (HD+Dm)

425 Selection of electors should be taken very seriously.


Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:04 PM (Ev4Um)

Alright fair enough. I just don't think the country as we know it would survive if the EC ignored the vote. We'd already be in a really bad position if that had to happen anyways I guess.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 12:06 PM (xAtAj)

426 The electoral college helps act as a balance between urban, rural, and regional interests. It also better represents the Federalist model of sovereign states participating in a union rather than a large, single population.

All a candidate would have to do to win a popular vote election is bribe Chicago, LA, and the NW corridor with promises of everybody else's money.

Posted by: Brian Ross at August 06, 2012 12:06 PM (MMC8r)

427 414 Some crazy woman just shot up a riverboat in Detroit...one critical. She got away.
Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:01 PM (Ev4Um)
**
Wow!!! the Tea Party is on FAYA!!!

Posted by: Brian Ross at August 06, 2012 12:07 PM (eavT+)

428 Posted by: soothie at August 06, 2012 11:30 AM (TXseM)

Lol, although I did have to read it twice to catch the joke.

Posted by: Polliwogette, teahada Hobbit at August 06, 2012 12:07 PM (S//GH)

429 Something about boobs? Who is that chick, the one with the big ones? That we like to see pics of?

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 06, 2012 12:07 PM (7vSU0)

430 Put up the Ewok Signal.

Or the Upton Signal.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2012 12:07 PM (TZaAF)

431 Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 11:57 AM (9KqcB)
___

Call Rep Steve Barrar's office, he and some other politicians have documented numerous instances of voter fraud in PA. The only people who make noise about there being no fraud in the state are the ones who are committing it. You don't need to give absentee ballots to dementia patients. They'll go in and personally take patients to the polls. Theydo this with patients at Norristown State Hospital.
In 2008, citizens in the precinct where Lincoln U. is located were prevented from casting their votes because busses of youth suddenly appeared and caused a disruption claiming they had registered, when there was no evidence of them on the rolls. Locals got tired of waiting to cast their ballots and just left without voting. Philadelphia shenanigans are a story in and of themselves. You can go in and claim you're the person who lives at an abandoned property and vote. And poll watchers who squawk when they see the same person vote again as themselves have to shut up because they bring union goons in as intimidation. Everybody is so focussed on the NBP intimidation in Philly when white union goons stay to "maintain order" at the polls as a matter of course.

Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 12:08 PM (jm/9g)

432 Okay, RE: the Sikh temple shooting. First off, my thoughs and prayers are with the victims and their families. I hope the wounded recover and that those who lost their lives are able to rest in peace.

But the whole "The shooter was a neo-nazi white supremacist" storyline is pissing me off. You want to know why? Here's why. From the AP story at AP.org:

Page was a "frustrated neo-Nazi" who led a racist white supremacist band, the Southern Poverty Law Center said Monday.

It's entirely possible that the asshole is a white supremacist; I'm not disputing that. But if the only evidence we have of that so far is the word of the g-ddamn SPLC, then dare I say maybe the MFM should WAIT before leaping ont hat bandwagon?

Oh, what the hell am i saying. The MFM wait for confirmation? HAH!

Regardless of the man's reasons, I hope he gets the chair.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 12:08 PM (4df7R)

433 Did it used to actually be funny, and Keiller went moonbat?
Was it never funny and it's the Barack Obama of radio programs?
Is it a Minnesota thing I'm just not getting?

Put me some f'ing knowledge here.


Posted by: Filly at August 06, 2012 12:06 PM (HD+Dm)

It's liberals trying their best to be folksy and accessible. They feel that they have to listen to it just so they can say that they aren't snobs. It's an obligation with an occasional chuckle thrown in.

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at August 06, 2012 12:08 PM (RD7QR)

434 Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 11:49 AM (jm/9g)

Again, I'm not sure if online copies meet the requirement of "raised seal" documents. I ask because I haven't seen them referenced in any of the state info on how to obtain one.

Our PR on this sucks. I don't know any conservative in PA who was pushing for this, it moved in the legislature in a matter of months. And we might lose a court battle on it right before election day. The backers need to do a much better job selling this.

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:08 PM (9KqcB)

435 All a candidate would have to do to win a popular
vote election is bribe Chicago, LA, and the NW corridor with promises of
everybody else's money.


Posted by: Brian Ross at August 06, 2012 12:06 PM (MMC8r)

That was the one reason I agreed with. Might even be enough.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 12:08 PM (xAtAj)

436 My point is that I am not against the idea of states using the popular vote to determine how their EV are allocated. I don't want to replace the EV system. And in general, I think it is a bad idea. But I see nothing constitutionally that would prohibit them from using the popular vote to make this decision. Plus, I wouldn't see it lasting long because it will very quickly produce a result that an individual state does not like.

Posted by: SH at August 06, 2012 12:09 PM (gmeXX)

437
Regardless of the man's reasons, I hope he gets the chair.

Man, you are hardcore.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 12:09 PM (MMC8r)

438 Man, you are hardcore.
Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 12:09 PM (MMC8r)


Mass murder is mass murder.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 12:10 PM (4df7R)

439 429 -

You are being way too specific, and at the same time not anywhere nearly specific enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:11 PM (TOk1P)

440 Put up the Ewok signal.
Ding! Ding! Ding!

Posted by: crichton ringing his bell and pointing at harry reid at August 06, 2012 12:11 PM (vDl/w)

441 It's entirely possible that the asshole is a white supremacist; I'm not disputing that. But if the only evidence we have of that so far is the word of the g-ddamn SPLC, then dare I say maybe the MFM should WAIT before leaping ont hat bandwagon?

Actually, thismight bethe best thing to happen to "white supreacists." In New America, the response to mass religious/ideological killings is to shield the attacker's cause from any judgment or generalizations.

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:12 PM (9KqcB)

442 Man, you are hardcore.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 12:09 PM (MMC8r)



Mass murder is mass murder.



A little joke. See, he's already dead.

Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 12:12 PM (MMC8r)

443 Trying to figure out how this shooter is right away domestic terrorism.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 06, 2012 12:12 PM (7vSU0)

444 Trying to figure out how this shooter is right away domestic terrorism.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 06, 2012 12:12 PM (7vSU0)


He's white.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 06, 2012 12:13 PM (1Jaio)

445 A little joke. See, he's already dead.
Posted by: nickless at August 06, 2012 12:12 PM (MMC8r)


Ah-hah. Gotcha. See, this is what happens on a Monday.

And honestly? My opinion? Still stands.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 12:14 PM (4df7R)

446 \He's white.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 06, 2012 12:13 PM (1Jaio)


And the victims are brown.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit and ABO Supporter at August 06, 2012 12:14 PM (4df7R)

447 This whole line of reasoning in regards to voter ID being a burden to voting is ridiculous.

There is no legal voting age citizen at any economic level in this country that does not have a photo ID of some sort. Period!

The only reason that Democrats/Progressives fight this is because it reduces the opportunities for them to cheat. That is all.


Posted by: General Woundwort at August 06, 2012 12:14 PM (06lNq)

448 Regardless of the man's reasons, I hope he gets the chair.

Isn't he already dead?

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 12:14 PM (evdj2)

449 Death Penalty = Retroactive Abortion

See how easy it was to get the left on board with executing scum. Change the language, change the game.

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:15 PM (Ev4Um)

450 442 -

Oh... I didn't get it either, but now that you point that out the mental picture is freakin' hilarious.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:15 PM (TOk1P)

451 324, Win-Win

Posted by: Jean at August 06, 2012 12:15 PM (Pvjul)

452 "It's an obligation with an occasional chuckle thrown in."

There was this line in which a character said of a picture of his ex-girlfriend, "She was wearing a tweed suit" and it totally got a laugh. It was such a dynamic contrast between total non-humor and the typical human response to humor that I almost screamed.

It's like someone showed me a very blurry photograph and said "Look at the great sharp lines here!"

Posted by: Filly at August 06, 2012 12:15 PM (HD+Dm)

453
"Mass murder is mass murder."

But what if these Sikhs were gathering to deny global warming? Wouldn't if be justified then?

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 12:16 PM (ZDsRL)

454 Direct popular vote for Senators has worked out just dandy. What could go wrong with a direct popular vote for President? I mean, what's not to like about the Northeast and CA controlling the Presidential election?

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 06, 2012 12:16 PM (imtbm)

455 "(Video) Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Going Out of Business!'

It's from Hyscience, and in light of the successful landing of curiosity, appropriate to think about...
http://tinyurl.com/bnurhv6

Posted by: , at August 06, 2012 12:16 PM (oZfic)

456 Drawing and quartering is still available though.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 12:17 PM (evdj2)

457 456 -

Sure.Afterwards we burn the pieces, feed the ashes to wolves. Then blow up the wolves.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:18 PM (TOk1P)

458 Call Rep Steve Barrar's office, he and some other politicians have documented numerous instances of voter fraud in PA.

That's what I mean by horrible PR,kallisto. Call his office to get the most important info on the hottest debate in the state? Go to his website, he doesn't mention any of it. And he's supposed to be one of the go-to guys.

Like I said, I sleep well. I'm pretty familiar with Dem voter fraud, and payback is a bitch. But don't think this isn't turning off squishy moderates. How could it not, with only one side making the case?

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:19 PM (9KqcB)

459 Damn, no women's beach volleyball today with which to waste some work time. Then again, my two fave teams are already out.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2012 12:19 PM (TZaAF)

460 O/T Incredible, incredible!, photos taken by MRO of the Curiosity dangling from it's huge chute! Astonishing accomplishment. Is it good to be us, or what!!!

Posted by: and irresolute at August 06, 2012 12:20 PM (Q492A)

461 O/T Incredible, incredible!, photos taken by MRO of the Curiosity dangling from it's huge chute! Astonishing accomplishment. Is it good to be us, or what!!!
Posted by: and irresolute at August 06, 2012 12:20 PM (Q492A)

We can do great things. Looking at the control room photos, I was thinking "How much longer will we be able to turn out graduates smart enough to accomplish this?"

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:23 PM (9KqcB)

462 459 Damn, no women's beach volleyball today with which to waste some work time. Then again, my two fave teams are already out.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 06, 2012 12:19 PM (TZaAF)
**
The Chek-Chicks looked delish yesterday.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 06, 2012 12:23 PM (eavT+)

463 460 -

And what is the chute dangling from? A dolly crane? A tree? A church steeple?

Or are you REALLY suggesting they went to Mars??

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:24 PM (TOk1P)

464 Muslim outreach.

Posted by: Truman North, iPhone scoundrel at August 06, 2012 12:24 PM (knrCu)

465
"Looking at the control room photos..."

I saw that on CNN with the sound off. I thought it was the kiss-in at Chik fil A.

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 12:26 PM (ZDsRL)

466 Surprised to see Virginia projected blue in this map.

Posted by: navybrat at August 06, 2012 12:26 PM (btv7u)

467 Direct popular vote for Senators has worked out just
dandy. What could go wrong with a direct popular vote for President? I
mean, what's not to like about the Northeast and CA controlling the
Presidential election?


Posted by: RoyalOil at August 06, 2012 12:16 PM (imtbm)

The democrat hellholes already control CA's EC.... I don't really get this critique.

Posted by: HoboJerky, profit of DOOM! at August 06, 2012 12:26 PM (xAtAj)

468 Muslim outreach.
Posted by: Truman North, iPhone scoundrel at August 06, 2012 12:24 PM (knrCu)


Nope. No civilized muslims up here, either. Guess we'll have to reach out farther.
I found more evidence that #HarryReidIsAPederast, though.

Posted by: Curiousity Rover at August 06, 2012 12:26 PM (ggRof)

469 Or are you REALLY suggesting they went to Mars??Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:24 PM (TOk1P)LOL!! You clever devil! You saw right through that, and so quickly!

Posted by: and irresolute at August 06, 2012 12:27 PM (Q492A)

470 464 -

I dated a Bosnian chick. I outreached.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:27 PM (TOk1P)

471 "How much longer will we be able to turn out graduates smart enough to accomplish this?"

Yea, that dogma based science doesn't work too well in space...

Posted by: @PurpAv at August 06, 2012 12:28 PM (Ev4Um)

472 The democrat hellholes already control CA's EC.... I don't really get this critique.

But they don't control Indiana's (which really surprises me). The whole point of the EC is to keep the large states from riding roughshod over the smaller states, since their interests usually diverge.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 06, 2012 12:29 PM (/kI1Q)

473 Yea, that dogma based science doesn't work too well in space...

Word.

Posted by: Trofim Lysenko at August 06, 2012 12:29 PM (evdj2)

474 I dated a Bosnian chick. I outreached.

You outreached? Does that mean she was out of your league, but you got her drunk enough not to notice? "Man, that chick would never have talked to me normally, I really outreached myself on that one."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channelling Breitbart at August 06, 2012 12:30 PM (8y9MW)

475
First look at Sikh shooter: sporting a prison p*ssy.

Posted by: Wodeshed at August 06, 2012 12:30 PM (UuLBC)

476 If they find any work on Mars the Feds will message it into the numbers before the election.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 06, 2012 12:31 PM (aZ6ew)

477 Obama will win 303 electoral votes.

Posted by: Paulie Carbone at August 06, 2012 12:31 PM (KzWwC)

478 474 -

Ummm, no. I mean part of me reached part of her, and not just our hands.

I'd explain it further, but this is a family blog.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:31 PM (TOk1P)

479 Obama will win 303 electoral votes.

I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 12:32 PM (evdj2)

480 Did any of you leave a dead relative at the Indianapolis International Airport?
http://is.gd/IhvGt6

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 06, 2012 12:34 PM (/kI1Q)

481 I'm in the habit of leaving my dead relatives at the cemetery, but thanks for asking.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 06, 2012 12:35 PM (aZ6ew)

482 A family blog.

Wow do potato chips hurt coming out my nose.

Posted by: alexthechick -f u autocorrect at August 06, 2012 12:35 PM (NY3kI)

483 Content? We don't need no stinkin content!

Posted by: Detective Thorn at August 06, 2012 12:36 PM (0q2P7)

484 OT: I made The Ethicist's new "Unethical Quote of the Week"!!

The quote was "There is nothing more ethical and fair than reciprocity."

I have been given a master's lesson in ethics - he banned me (without my having written anything more "offensive" than "LOL", which he said was 'mockery', evidently beyond the pale) and then wrote a nasty post about me (it was more funny than nasty, but he did try) that I can't respond to.

I shall pass along some of the other great master's lessons in ethics to all of you:

Pop’s “reciprocity” holds that once someone has treated another human
being badly, it is ethical for that person to treat him or her just as
badly in the same manner, presumably on the false assumption that this
will teach him better “ethics.”


I, of course, made no such assumption. All I said was that it was eminently fair to treat someone as he treats me. Which it obviously is. I don't care to be running around teaching ethics to everyone.

Even isolating such a distorted ethical system to single episodes, the
result is ugly. Pop believes it is ethical for a husband to cheat on his
adulterous wife after reconciliation. He believes that it is ethical
for a physically abused spouse to return the abuse in kind, turning
marriage into perpetual physical conduct. He believes that liars can be
ethically lied to, and rumor-mongers should be made the victim of
rumors. Thieves should be robbed. Jerry Sandusky should be sexually
molested…or perhaps his grandchildren. If someone insults you, insult
her: that’s ethical, in Pop’s world. Pop’s world is, you see, violent,
uncivil, mean and driven by retribution. There is no integrity, because
it is ethical to adopt the bad conduct of others for the purpose of
revenge.


Funny how the ethicist seems to assume that all husbands are physically abusive to their wives, here ... but I guess that's his personal issue. Other than that, it's pretty clear that any normal person would have to say that everything else listed are fair reactions, if one cares to do them.

I am proud of this dishonor heaped on me by The Ethicist and would like to thank everyone who made this possible. Mostly common sense, but others also played a role in getting me to this award.

The Ethicist also threw in a little ditty about the eligibility argument (to show what an idiot he really is, in case anyone was left in doubt). Funny stuff.

http://ethicsalarms.com/

I'm lucky I only wrote "LOL" in my original debate and not "ROFLMAO". That would have been far too vicious a form of mockery and I'm not sure what The Ethicist would have done in reaction to that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 06, 2012 12:36 PM (X3lox)

485 Damn you 70's scifi sock!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 06, 2012 12:37 PM (0q2P7)

486 Did it used to actually be funny, and Keiller went moonbat?
Was it never funny and it's the Barack Obama of radio programs?
Is it a Minnesota thing I'm just not getting?

Put me some f'ing knowledge here.


When I was a senior in HS, we had a series of substitute teachers for English for the entire first semester because the regular teacher was ill.

One of these was a hippy-dippy type who lasted less than a month. When Steve Goodman died, she started a class by playing "City of New Orleans" for us on a record player checked out of the school library. She had tears in her eyes. The girl who was our valedictorian savaged that sub with mockery until the hippy ran from the room bawling. We never saw her again.

While she was with us, that hippy could not get enough of Garrison Keillor and his "Prairie Home Companion" even to the point that she used to play that shit in class.

Keillor has been an unfunny, elitist douchebag at least since 1984. Even worse than that, the basis of his humor is such that only other elitist douchebags can find him funny.

He and his fans try to pass off his shtick as intelligent musings on absurdity, but his presumptuous smug cannot help but surface.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 06, 2012 12:37 PM (ogdab)

487 I'm reliably informed by Ace of Ace of Spades Headquarters that Mitt Romney will garner 924% of the vote.

I'm going with that.



Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2012 12:38 PM (KXm42)

488 I saw that on CNN with the sound off. I thought it was the kiss-in at Chik fil A.
Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 12:26 PM (ZDsRL)

There was a disgraceful lack of diversity. I hope the feds get on that. Breathtaking advances and humanity's quest for knowledgeare nice, but not as important as projecting a NASA that looks like America.

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:38 PM (9KqcB)

489 I'd explain it further, but this is a family blog.

It is?? Well damn, guess I better put away that link to Miranda Kerr newd pics I had ready for an appropriate moment...

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 12:39 PM (da5Wo)

490 tldr

Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2012 12:39 PM (KXm42)

491 “We all have our little faults. Mine's in California.”

Posted by: Lex Luthor at August 06, 2012 12:39 PM (KFQzb)

492
Re#162 Australian Imam
Ogling is not rape.

Posted by: RayJ at August 06, 2012 12:40 PM (pI/IV)

493 Did any of you leave a dead relative at the Indianapolis International Airport?
http://is.gd/IhvGt6


Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at August 06, 2012 12:34 PM (/kI1Q)

Ha! You made me look since my brother flies in and out of that airport nearly every week. Wasn't him, though. We offered to cremate him but he said 'wait until I'm dead first.'

Posted by: Retread at August 06, 2012 12:41 PM (I2fq9)

494 Toby, 303 is the map at the top of the page plus Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa, all states Obama is currently leading in.

Posted by: Paulie Carbone at August 06, 2012 12:42 PM (KzWwC)

495 No wonder ethicist malpractice premiums have skyrocketed.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 06, 2012 12:42 PM (aZ6ew)

496 Of course the Harry Reid is a pederast thing is unfair.

That's the point.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 06, 2012 12:42 PM (7vSU0)

497 Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 12:39 PM (da5Wo)

"Family" is such a wildly defined and overused term like Racism and Terrorism. I feel we can safely post your pictures and the make up the definition of family to suit our social/political purposes. In other words, post the fucking pictures.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 12:43 PM (9TTOe)

498 Sikh temple shooter identified as Wade Michael Page

Why do these lunatics always have three names? Or is it just that the MBM uses all three?

Posted by: Retread at August 06, 2012 12:44 PM (I2fq9)

499 Why do these lunatics always have three names? Or is it just that the MBM uses all three?
Posted by: Retread at August 06, 2012 12:44 PM (I2fq9)

Yeah, like Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 12:45 PM (9TTOe)

500 ...but not as important as projecting a NASA that looks like America. Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:38 PM (9KqcB)You can bet your wallet that some asshole, somewhere in the admin., has that EXACT fallacy written down in big bold letters. So sad, so stupid and absurd to sandbag our best efforts for the sake of appearances....but we will. sniff.

Posted by: and irresolute at August 06, 2012 12:46 PM (Q492A)

501 Or is it just that the MBM uses all three?Posted by: Retread

yes, as Brian Ross learned the hard way last month.

(I thought everyone understood that reason... )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 06, 2012 12:46 PM (uCNam)

502 Of course the Harry Reid is a pederast thing is unfair.



That's the point.

Posted by: Golan Globus at August 06, 2012 12:42 PM (7vSU0)


It would be unfair to do it to anyone else but it's clearly fair to do it to Hairy Reed. He got to choose the rules of debate that he wants to live with, now he should live with them.

And the pedophile jabs at Reed will never have nearly the impact of a Senate majority leader making unfounded, public accusations from the Senate floor. We in the public don't have the power that Reed has to abuse, nor the legal shield of "anything said in Congress".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 06, 2012 12:47 PM (X3lox)

503 489 -

I don't believe I am familiar with Ms. Kerr, nor do I have any knowledge of her "talents." I take it that I should?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:47 PM (TOk1P)

504 Keillor has been an unfunny, elitist douchebag at
least since 1984. Even worse than that, the basis of his humor is such
that only other elitist douchebags can find him funny.



Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 06, 2012 12:37 PM

Reminds me of The Simpsons where the TV says "next on PBS, Garrison Keilor ... ", then Homer bangs the set and yells "damn you TV, BE FUNNY !! "

Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2012 12:48 PM (Y7XKa)

505 Why do these lunatics always have three names? Or is it just that the MBM uses all three?
Posted by: Retread at August 06, 2012 12:44 PM (I2fq9)
-----------------------------------------------------
If his middle name was Wayne the body count would have been a lot higher.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 06, 2012 12:49 PM (jucos)

506 (I thought everyone understood that reason... )

It's to help differentiate insane sadistic assholes from other people with similar name.

Just saying it out loud for the record.

Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2012 12:49 PM (KXm42)

507 Why do these lunatics always have three names? Or is it just that the MBM uses all three?
Posted by: Retread at August 06, 2012 12:44 PM (I2fq9)
**
To avoid confusion with other Wade Page's. This rule obviously does not apply to Brian Wilson.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (eavT+)

508 I don't believe I am familiar with Ms. Kerr, nor do I have any knowledge of her "talents." I take it that I should?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:47 PM (TOk1P)

I think by viewing Miss Kerr you can educate your family on who this young person is. I think this has just become a mandatory view for our family sensitive blog.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (9TTOe)

509 Just saying it out loud for the record.Posted by: eleven

I think some commenters take the moniker of 'moron' waaaaay too literally.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (uCNam)

510 Whenever a comedian who won't shut up about leftist politics isn't funny, he's called a "humorist" by the MBM

Prime examples; Keilor, Al Franken

Posted by: kbdabear at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (Y7XKa)

511 Now if your middle name is also the same you're SOL.

Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (KXm42)

512 Miranda Kerr

Super NSFW

http://tinyurl.com/y8tw6d8

http://tinyurl.com/bp656uu

http://tinyurl.com/9jamxc9

Posted by: BCochran1981 at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (da5Wo)

513 Brian Wilson. Er...Brian Ross.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 06, 2012 12:50 PM (eavT+)

514 303 is the map at the top of the page plus Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa, all states Obama is currently leading in.

And? I meet your assertion with a guffaw.

Barry's going down in November like it was Chi-town Friday night.

Posted by: toby928© at August 06, 2012 12:51 PM (evdj2)

515 It's to help differentiate insane sadistic assholes from other people with similar name.

Just saying it out loud for the record.


OK, I'm just surprised the MBM is that responsible.

Posted by: Retread at August 06, 2012 12:51 PM (I2fq9)

516 >>>The uncovered meat is the problem.

You know, that quote is so indicative of so many problems with the philosophy.

1. The meat is covered. It comes with it's own nifty packaging called "skin"
2. Human beings are not animals. Giving license to immoral behavior by saying "Well the stray cats would do it" lowers humanity below where we can make any claim to the love and grace of God as a being cast in his image. Where I come from people leave open meat in the backyard specifically to attract the stray cats...to shoot them...because they are thieving vermin. So that when the Sunday dinner is placed outside as the family gathers, no one need fear interloping vermin stealing the feast of Gods day. That's the answer, not hide your meat, kill the damn rodents.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Lite! 98% Anger Free! at August 06, 2012 12:52 PM (0q2P7)

517 Kindle Daily Deal:

Eastern Inferno

While fighting with Germany's anti-tank battalion as they deployed along the Soviet frontier in June 1941, Hans Roth kept a series of remarkable journals before he went missing in action. Written with an honest, private style as events transpired, Roth's gripping account lays bare the horrific war Germany waged in Russia.

Posted by: Vic at August 06, 2012 12:53 PM (YdQQY)

518
"There was a disgraceful lack of diversity. I hope the feds get on that. Breathtaking advances and humanity's quest for knowledgeare nice, but not as important as projecting a NASA that looks like America. "
Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:38 PM (9KqcB)It's pretty obvious NASA doesn't share the same meaning of the word "successful" as we doconcerning their mission to Mars. What joy can one take in any endeavor devoid of Native Americans and Eskimos?

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 12:54 PM (ZDsRL)

519 508 -

I just familiarized myself with Ms. Kerr, but I am at work, so I shall wait until I get home later to become more familiar with her.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 06, 2012 12:55 PM (TOk1P)

520 OK, I'm just surprised the MBM is that responsible.

You'll notice recently they strayed from tradition with predictable results.

Posted by: eleven at August 06, 2012 12:55 PM (KXm42)

521 I had line breaks in my comment. Honest, I did.

Posted by: jwest at August 06, 2012 12:56 PM (ZDsRL)

522 I had line breaks in my comment. Honest, I did.

And delicious they were.

Posted by: Pixyware 2000 at August 06, 2012 12:59 PM (TZaAF)

523 We in the public don't have the power that Reed has to abuse, nor the legal shield of "anything said in Congress".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 06, 2012 12:47 PM (X3lox)


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You just made me stop and think. Perhaps this is what they're aiming for. Nothing would stop the open debate in this country better than speech laws limiting what our senaters and representatives can say.

The left always goes totally whacked until something is done toward their goals for something less whacked. And then they up the ante again gain even more of what's "whacked". It's how they do everything.

Posted by: Soona at August 06, 2012 01:02 PM (9CSNx)

524 521 I had line breaks in my comment. Honest, I did.

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And they were delicious.

Posted by: Pixy's Hamsters at August 06, 2012 01:06 PM (NmR1a)

525 From ethicsalarms:

Such warped reciprocity seeds a perpetual cycle of hatred and escalating feuds, because it begins a cycle that can never stop short of death, terror, or surrender.

All Reid needs to do is to publicly admit that he was wrong to say what he said about Romney. If this escalates to terror or death, then whose fault was it?

What this "Ethicist" shithead fails to see is that we either have reasoned debate with logical rules, a shared understanding of what constitutes truth, and harsh consequences for lying, or we are stuck with everything else. And I mean everything else because the only distinctions among what's left have their bases in whatever the majority feels like pulling out of their ass on any given day. That path leads ultimately to "might makes right," and wandering in that wilderness puts us one preference cascade away from some horrifying shit.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 06, 2012 01:06 PM (ogdab)

526 The electoral college limits their after poll lawyering to a few spots in a few states. Without it we'd see lawsuits in every precinct that's > 25% Dem.

Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2012 01:08 PM (DVJEd)

527 atc,
Nobody said healthy family.

Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2012 01:13 PM (DVJEd)

528 And I'm commenting to myself.


Posted by: DaveA at August 06, 2012 01:18 PM (DVJEd)

529 over at tepid air they are hyping a poll showing 52% support for abortion.....

A woman has the right to murder her "clump of tissue" but not the right to choose her light bulb or what size soft drink she gets right leftoids?

the moonbats don’t get it it if the state has the right to micromanage
my diet then when we take their brave new world’s toolbox at whatever
point we will once the firewalls of deference to our political past are
burnt through have the right to inflict our preference cascade but like
Cicero watching the rise of the Triumvirate we are watching the slow
destruction of the Republic.

Posted by: sven10077 at August 06, 2012 01:19 PM (LRFds)

530 528 And I'm commenting to myself.

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And loving it!

Posted by: Maxwell Smart, Agent 86 at August 06, 2012 01:23 PM (xGZ+b)

531 I read this piece of crap article yesterday and it made me so pissed I donated $50 to Romney afterwards. I suggest you all do the same.

Posted by: DeusExMachina at August 06, 2012 01:33 PM (6RTwM)

532 Pa will go for Mitt . Watch the polls in Bucks and Mont. Counties . Philadelphia turnout will go down with voter ID. Even Chris Matthews admitted that there would be 3 pairs of legs in the voting booths of Dem areas in Philadelphia .

Posted by: DrDrill at August 06, 2012 01:35 PM (j9oZw)

533 Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 12:08 PM (9KqcB)
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Yes, they do. There's a watermark on the document, which indicates it serves in the same capacity as a raised seal certificate and that photocopying it is expressly forbidden. I have used these documents to satisfy I9 requirements at my workplace, and used the death certificates obtained this wayto settle estates.

You don't know any conservatives that backed the voter ID initiative? All the state reps and governor who enacted the law must have felt pretty safe in their decision, given the results of the 2010 midterms.

You said upthread that some rep's statements made conservatives defensive. I'm not in the least defensive. How about the vote cheats be defensive about disenfranchising my vote for once? How about the perps being defensive rather than those of us who are operating in good faith?

Here's some PR for you: I support the PA Voter ID law because voter fraud disenfrachises me and all the other Pennsylvanians operating in good faith. You need examples of rampant voter fraud, call Don Adams of the Independence Hall Tea Party, I'm sure he'll be happy to oblige.

Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 01:38 PM (jm/9g)

534

Also, it's hard to imagine, but there was a time when a small, select group of elected Dems were not total law-breaking turdbags. That time has now passed, but there was a time.


And were loyal patriotic Americans.

Seems so long ago now ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at August 06, 2012 01:49 PM (oX7vY)

535 If you right-wing haters are going to troll your own threads pretending to be me, the least you could do is learn how to spell. Then again, the schools aren't very good in your red states where fucking your sisters and cousins is legal. Sill haters. In the end, there will only be Progress.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 06, 2012 02:03 PM (jCQ+I)

536 Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 01:38 PM (jm/9g)

I don't doubt your b/c info, but I can't find reference to it anywhere in PA gov links.

I know plenty of conservatives who support photo ID, including me. I said that the PA GOP has been AWOL, including the GOP Majority Leader who poured gasoline on the fire and then ran.

Your repeated suggestions to "call" various sources makes my point: the PR on this - the most animating issue for PA Democrats - is pathetic.

Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 02:04 PM (9KqcB)

537 535 MaryJane Rottencrotch,

here's to you sugarbumps...

Posted by: sven10077 at August 06, 2012 02:05 PM (LRFds)

538 I can buy that Obama might win, but there is absolutely not chance that he wins in a landslide. No chance.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 06, 2012 02:07 PM (r4wIV)

539 Posted by: CJ at August 06, 2012 02:04 PM (9KqcB)
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I don't doubt your b/c info, but I can't find reference to it anywhere in PA gov links.
state dot pa dot us
go to the PA Dept. of Health link, there's a hot link to the Voter ID requirements. The birth and death certificate online application is within the Pa Dept of Health section of the state portal. I'll do a screenshot and post tomorrow in the Open Thread. I'm trying to get out of work quickly and don't feel like doing the upload and tinyurl right now.

I repeatedly suggested you "call" various sources because you expressed doubt that such a thing as voter fraud exists. You can become part of the PR solution...have you posted any commentary on PA news blogs, or called a local talk radio show when this subject arises? If the establishment is doing a lousy PR job then we have to pick up the slack.

Posted by: kallisto at August 06, 2012 05:24 PM (jm/9g)






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