Elizabeth Warren: Hey, We Need To Convert Our Economy To One More Like China's

Her suggestion is that the federal government spend an additional trillion per year on infrastructure. She does not say how she'd pay for this, and in fact all of her previous claimed agenda items relegate this newest item into the realm of the impossible -- she's already proposed a huge tax increase, but with new government mad-money dedicated to deficit reduction.

What happens when a Leviathan state has all the free money it could want? Well, let's look at China, the country Warren wants to emulate.

One of the more interesting searches you can conduct on Google is "ghost cities of China. Here, for example. Or here.

China's ghost cities are unlike any that have ever existed. The typical ghost city was once populated, but then abandoned, for one reason or another. China's ghost cities were never inhabited at all. China is building entire cities, capable of housing a million people or so each, with no one actually planning on living in them.

They're built empty, and they stay empty.

This is what happens when a state has all the money it could want and unlimited power to order economic activity to its liking, and can therefore do things that no one actually wants them to do. They are free to act upon bureaucratic dreams and civil servant caprice.

Below, a documentary on the Ghost Cities, and a famous Onion debate over the merits of similar policies.


Posted by: Ace at 02:26 PM



Comments

1 As a gay man and a gay journalist, I want to be first!

Posted by: Doug Dannger at August 01, 2012 02:27 PM (i3pKT)

2
re: Nancy Fichandler
OMG.
The goggles...they do nothing!

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2012 02:28 PM (2TOuZ)

3 Please, everyone--stop talking about me.

Posted by: Harry Reid's Dick at August 01, 2012 02:28 PM (IoNBC)

4
It's full of kids!

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2012 02:29 PM (2TOuZ)

5 The money hole does not get old.

Posted by: Mark formerly in Spokane,now in Sandy Ut at August 01, 2012 02:29 PM (GKUkS)

6 You need a lot of ghost cities to house all the dead people who vote for us.

Posted by: DNC at August 01, 2012 02:30 PM (ggRof)

7 And I certainly don't think we should emulate the Chinese and murder millions of our political opponents. *wink

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 01, 2012 02:31 PM (ggRof)

8

BRB - building an iron smelter in my backyard.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 01, 2012 02:31 PM (kdS6q)

9 The first video is of a jumping baby goat. I prefer it to the ghost cities video that should be there.

Posted by: Ben at August 01, 2012 02:31 PM (C2Y4l)

10 I just can't handle the stupid of Elizabeth Warren anymore.

Can we haz more Harry Reid Pedarest post puh-lease!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 01, 2012 02:31 PM (OWjjx)

11
Under communism....the Government is the 1%.
I can see why this would appeal to Lizzy Warren.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 02:32 PM (mtRB0)

12 So she returns to the tried and true Dem lie of we want to balance the budget by raising taxes but slips up and gives what the Dems really want to do, spend another extra trillion dollars.


No tax increase since FDR has ever "balanced the budget" because the lying shit-weasels always raised spending by more than they brought in and actually increased the deficit.


As fo4r spending an extra trillion dollars, they are already doing that by stealth. The reason the Senate has not passed a budget is so Harry can press for continuing budget resolutions from the past budget. The last budget they passed was when they controlled both houses and they were still spending an extra trillion over the previous years.


And the stimulus, it wuld be just like their last so called "Stimulus" almost zero infrastructure and 90% solcialist give-a-ways to the looter class.

Posted by: Vic at August 01, 2012 02:32 PM (YdQQY)

13 Unfortunately she is going to win in a walk.

The IQ of the Senate is going down, down down.

Posted by: General Woundwort at August 01, 2012 02:32 PM (06lNq)

14
So sad. A city of ghosts with nobody to fap for them.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2012 02:32 PM (2TOuZ)

15 BTW, someone said Warren was a pederast as well.

Posted by: Vic at August 01, 2012 02:33 PM (YdQQY)

16 Her suggestion is that the federal government spend an additional trillion per year on infrastructure.

Unlike in Communist China, most infrastructure in the American Socialist Superstate are still, ostensibly, State responsibilities. I know ... I know, there's nothing but the faintest facade of federalism left in the A.S.S. ...

Fauxcahontas needs to be deported to China. She could get a whole ghost city to herself and her imaginary Indian ancestors. It would complete her Vision Inquest.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 01, 2012 02:33 PM (X3lox)

17 Just think of what percentage of the GDP the Pharaoh spent on the Pyramids.

Posted by: tmitsss at August 01, 2012 02:33 PM (V4Pya)

18 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 01, 2012 02:31 PM (OWjjx)

Stop, PLEASE stop. I'm shriiiiiiiinking....

Posted by: Harry Reid's Dick at August 01, 2012 02:34 PM (IoNBC)

19 I love the money fire!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 01, 2012 02:34 PM (OWjjx)

20
Goat Cities....not.....Ghost Cities!
We need more Goat Cities.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 02:34 PM (mtRB0)

21 If I invest in a bench grinder to sharpen their hoes, am I a “good“ capitalist? Maybe I should wait for grant.

Posted by: Jean at August 01, 2012 02:34 PM (tvOF2)

22 Elizabeth Warren: Hey, We Need To Convert Our Economy To One More Like China's

How?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 01, 2012 02:34 PM (5vCzi)

23 So sad. A city of ghosts with nobody to fap for them.
Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2012 02:32 PM (2TOuZ)

Meh.

Just a city full of assholes, I say.

Posted by: CAC at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (RWCCo)

24
The best part about the chinese one child policy?
All the little boys.

Posted by: Harry Reid at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (2TOuZ)

25 I get it. The Buttermilk video is a symbolic statement about the futility of building empty cities that "jump" ahead of their utility.

Posted by: slatz at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (mE0Rl)

26 No tax increase since FDR has ever "balanced the budget" because the lying shit-weasels always raised spending by more than they brought in and actually increased the deficit

Somehow, this fact is lost on the 100 or so 2%ers that so desperately want to raise taxes.............on someone other than them.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (OWjjx)

27 The Flying Monkey party. Life is magic in Oz.

Posted by: eleven at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (KXm42)

28 I can't tell if the Buttermilk video re-post is a joke, or just AoSNormal posting fail.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (ZpFwu)

29 The truth about the Chinese "ghost" cities is that for the past fifty years due to China's one child policy, they have been aborting their female fetuses and disposing of the ones who actually get born. Voila, no baby girls to grow up to produce Chinese babies, so what to do to keep all the guys with no families busy...you two basic choices, Army or use the labor to build something.

Posted by: Will Assimilate For Chick-Fil-A at August 01, 2012 02:35 PM (kXoT0)

30
just can't handle the stupid of Elizabeth Warren anymore.


And she will probably be elected

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (mFxQX)

31 The infrastructure in many parts of Europe is quite impressive. Nice train stations, high-speed rail, amazingly smooth roads, etc.

But...the marginal tax rates are shocking, and coupled with systemic unemployment of at least 10%-12% guarantees a society that will remain stratified. That's exactly what America does not want, but these people don't really care. They are confident that they will be at the top, so...fuck the plebes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (nEUpB)

32 Finally! I said the same thing after the 2008 Olympics! So what if it takes eighteen hours to drive fifty miles.... China rocks!!

Posted by: Thomas L. Friedman at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (msPO3)

33 She does not say how

Except when she's saying hello.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (5vCzi)

34 Only academia can produce minds that don't think about little details such as how to pay for massive projects and what to do with them. In the end it becomes really expensive busy work. It occupies the class period and gives them something to do, but wastes a day better spent learning about geography and what not.

Posted by: Ed Wood vs Godzilla at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (pop1z)

35 I'd hit it.

Posted by: Dr. MoneyCock at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (RuVpG)

36 Damn, it's not an accidental pr0n link. Not even for Harry Reid.

Although I hear he got excited when he heard it was full of kids.

Posted by: Andy at August 01, 2012 02:36 PM (5Rurq)

37 Who's a cute little ghost city? You are! You are!

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 01, 2012 02:37 PM (Qxdfp)

38 20, the goat cities are in Iran, like an islamic Vegas - what happens in goat city, stays in goat city

Posted by: Jean at August 01, 2012 02:37 PM (tvOF2)

39 Empty cities? We know how to fill them.

Posted by: "french" "youths" at August 01, 2012 02:37 PM (TOk1P)

40 Our unbiased, absolutely conducted to scientific certainty, not skewed one way or another poll shows that 4,000,000,000 per cent of Americans want their taxes increased!

Posted by: CBS/NYT/Quinnipac Polling Outfit at August 01, 2012 02:37 PM (OWjjx)

41 I can't be a pederast. I prefer little girls! Now, that Harry Reid fellow, I hear that he is definitely an alledgedly convicted child molester.
#HarryReidIsAPedarast

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at August 01, 2012 02:37 PM (ggRof)

42 What is the Dem's problem with events that happened more than 15 seconds ago. they are like stupid goldfish.

Posted by: Penfold at August 01, 2012 02:38 PM (1PeEC)

43 Stop tempting me with your internet child porn infidel.

Posted by: Mustapha at August 01, 2012 02:38 PM (Qxdfp)

44 Do not taunt The Money Hole.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 01, 2012 02:38 PM (4cRnj)

45 As a gay man and a gay journalist, I want to be first!

Posted by: Doug Dannger

Were you born this way, or was it the Poppers?

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2012 02:38 PM (Ky1+e)

46 I can't tell if the Buttermilk video re-post is a joke, or just AoSNormal posting fail.

You can have my normal posting fail when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

Posted by: eleven at August 01, 2012 02:38 PM (KXm42)

47 As when the Chinese government bureaucrat explained to Milton Friedman, “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.”

To which Friedman replied, “Oh I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 01, 2012 02:38 PM (f9c2L)

48 She may want to convert it to a "China economy" but Obama has different ideas, he and "the fed" are converting it to an Argentinean economy.

Posted by: Vic at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (YdQQY)

49
Buttermilk video re-post is a joke, or just AoSNormal posting fail.

Has to be a fail.
If it was a joke, Ace would have explained it.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (2TOuZ)

50 I see goats. Do you see goats?

Must be some sort of high-brow joke about Warren putting goat cheese recipes in a Nat. American cookbook.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (SUKHu)

51 Empty cities? Behold, the new Obama Re-Education Cities!

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (Ky1+e)

52 @ 38 Now that was funny, right there.

Posted by: ErikW at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (uSLGj)

53 The infrastructure in many parts of Europe is quite impressive. Nice
train stations, high-speed rail, amazingly smooth roads, etc.


The stagnation of their economies tends to keep it in newarly new shape, too. "Slightly used train station for sale. Owned by an old Eurotrash country, only ridden on Sundays ..."

They make good target s for the muzz, too. After a day of burning cars (WTF is that about??) nothing like a clean train to detonate oneself on.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (X3lox)

54 ghost ride the whip!

Posted by: that guy who ran himself over at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (27KAF)

55 Ghost cities? More like goat village.

Posted by: Cicero at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (QKKT0)

56 This is beginning to remind me of the movie Big, where the character looks like an adult, but thinks like a child, and has no idea about the value of money.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 01, 2012 02:39 PM (GfHSl)

57 Brasilia

Posted by: CAC at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (RWCCo)

58 Yes why wouldn't a free country that has the #4 HDI follow a tolitarian country that is getting the piss beat out of it by 100 other countries including such powerhouses as Mexico, Armenia, Iran, Tunisia, Jordan, and the Dominican Republic.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Recent Graduate of the Sith Academy at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (0q2P7)

59 Ugh...what a load of crap.

I know people from America in China right now.

First shocker for them--people walking around with broken limbs that didn't heal right.

Skin diseases that look like flipping...well..speculation but close to leprosy.

People lining up for days to see a doctor.

Then there is the multiple layers of government corruption...

If you need a real eye opener go to China Smack IIRC

It's a site that loads and translates Chinese comment threads before the government shuts them down.

The sarcasm is funny as hell. One of the best running *jokes* is about the recycled cooking oil.

Posted by: tasker at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (r2PLg)

60 Empty cities? I don't see a problem here.

Posted by: Detroit at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (QKKT0)

61 I think he did mean Goat City....give the Palestttttttinians a homeland....

Posted by: fu52 at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (NYXC6)

62 If it was a joke, Ace would have explained it.

Posted by: garrett

Oh, c'mon! You don't get it?!?

Posted by: Dang -nervously waiting for someone else to explain it at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (Ky1+e)

63 So a ghost city is like a spastic baby goat? Is this that "irony" thing I keep hearing about?

Posted by: joncelli, who wants you off his damn lawn at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

64 Here--read the hell away.

http://www.chinasmack.com/

Posted by: tasker at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (r2PLg)

65 Every time this dumass opens her mouth, something stupid comes out. Maybe we can turn this into a drinking game.

Posted by: Dirty Old Man at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (ex1ST)

66 Dude, China's Ghost Cities are awesome!


You can get a Shanghai Double Half and half for one ghost dollar.

Posted by: Casper at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (54vf8)

67 The comedians on The Onion clip make more economic sense than Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (OWjjx)

68 She can shut THE HELL up.

Posted by: tasker at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (r2PLg)

69 goat cities?cool!

Posted by: Buttermilk the Jumping Kid at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (8g9qq)

70 Three words: High speed rail.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (qnXrY)

71 i fixed the first vid... wasn't a joke, just didn't copy the correct code properly, so it posted the code already in memory.

Posted by: ace at August 01, 2012 02:42 PM (115KO)

72 Mexico does the same thing. I went to Mexico city several years ago and they had construction workers building a new building right next to 5 abandoned ones.

Whatever puts people to work though, right?


Epic stupidity. Sad thing is, she's JUST LIKE 80% of our politicians running our country.....

Posted by: © Sponge at August 01, 2012 02:42 PM (UK9cE)

73 Ghost cities or Goat cities?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at August 01, 2012 02:42 PM (F7Mfi)

74 Behold, I am the Mall King!

Posted by: The Only Chinese Vagrant In The Entire Place at August 01, 2012 02:42 PM (QKKT0)

75 28 I can't tell if the Buttermilk video re-post is a joke, or just AoSNormal posting fail.

It could be both. It could be a dessert topping AND a floor wax.

Posted by: m at August 01, 2012 02:43 PM (9z9wm)

76 China's been operating on the Cool Hand Luke theory of economics.

"Better dig a hole."

Three hours later . . .

"That hole needs to be filled."

Posted by: The Q at August 01, 2012 02:43 PM (B/yDO)

77
Every Lib loves China
They daydream in mastabatory glee, lattee and blueberry scone forgotten on the counter, hoping China's great success will show the way to their Socialist dream world
As with everything else, including their messia, it's all a paper thin illusion.

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 01, 2012 02:43 PM (R/8dI)

78 How else can we win at badminton unless we embrace a Chinese Democracy?

Posted by: Lizzie Warren at August 01, 2012 02:43 PM (136wp)

79 can't we just give fauxahontas Warren to the Chinese? I realize she would be as useless as breasts on that Chinese olympic swimmer (alleged) chick, but what the hell...

Posted by: the Butcher at August 01, 2012 02:44 PM (8g9qq)

80 Mexico does the same thing. I went to Mexico city several years ago and
they had construction workers building a new building right next to 5
abandoned ones.

Whatever puts people to work though, right?


And just imagine the jobs created if they gave them spoons instead of shovels.

Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman at August 01, 2012 02:44 PM (QKKT0)

81 70 Three words: High speed rail.

Dude. That's four words.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2012 02:44 PM (IoNBC)

82 Remember that other Progressive PhD (in Education), Bill Ayres ... who helped Teh JEF spend about $150million on education and stuff in Chicago ...

... Utter failure. No Measureable Improvement.

We should expect the same result from Elizabeth "She Who Advances by Fabricating Heritage, not By Ability" Warren

Posted by: Arbalest at August 01, 2012 02:44 PM (qCdB7)

83 "Monorails" would go well here as well

Posted by: Jean at August 01, 2012 02:44 PM (WkuV6)

84 i fixed the first vid... wasn't a joke, just didn't copy the correct code properly, so it posted the code already in memory.

Posted by: ace

You're wrong, Ace. It was a joke. It was funny. And I got it. *puts hand up for an awesome high five*


Posted by: Dang - digging deeper at August 01, 2012 02:45 PM (Ky1+e)

85 We're doomed.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 01, 2012 02:45 PM (8sCoq)

86 81 70 Three words: High speed rail.

Dude. That's four words.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 01, 2012 02:44 PM (IoNBC)

You are an oxymoron

Posted by: Lizzie Warren at August 01, 2012 02:45 PM (136wp)

87 Western Sinophile: "The Great Wall of China! Yay!! Beautiful."

Chinese: "The World's Longest Graveyard ... stuffed with our carcasses."

Western Sinophile, "We need to be more like China!! More corpsemen walls!!"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 01, 2012 02:46 PM (X3lox)

88 " She does not say how she'd pay for this,"

I know how she's going to pay for it. She'll charge it to the children and grandchildren of today's voters. People like Injun Lizzie better stop pushing to abort all those fetuses, or there won't be enough babies to pay for all the bills she wants to run up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 01, 2012 02:46 PM (hUGg0)

89 65 -

Pardon moi?

Posted by: Alexandre Dumas at August 01, 2012 02:46 PM (TOk1P)

90 Elizabeth Warren is just an idiot I can no longer take......

Anymore news stories about people having sex in Wal-Marts? At least there is a point to those people's existence...........

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 01, 2012 02:47 PM (OWjjx)

91 Of course, in China, unless you go along with every single idiotic "suggestion" the Party comes up with, you are labeled a troublemaker and sent in to a forced labor camp where you will die and be ground up in to fertilizer. Be enough of a troublemaker and you and whole family just disappear, and when that happens, it is as if you never existed.

Posted by: navybrat at August 01, 2012 02:47 PM (AMpt+)

92 In fact, I own some property,property I purchased at a recent foreclosure auction, that would make a perfect site for one of these new cities!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's Five Year Plan at August 01, 2012 02:47 PM (2TOuZ)

93 Don't make me come over there to save capitalism again.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren, Who Only Wanted A Nice Luncheon With Some Injuns at August 01, 2012 02:47 PM (QKKT0)

94 Yeah, Democratic Party keynote speaker. This is what they stand for and really think the American people want to hear? I hope they're wrong but some days I wonder.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (r4wIV)

95 Uhhh... Ace? We're already like China... but our empty cities are better, because they are built by Crony Capital Energy firms...

(look up Pegasus Energy, and the city they are building in New Mexico).

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (lZBBB)

96 And--what's kind of surprising is the Chinese commenters are funny as hell.

They use sarcasm and irony to get past the censors as long as they can.

So, you will see comments like--

"All thanks to our great government and superior China they slowly poison us so that those of us that live are stronger than any other race.."

Stuff like that.

I can't even replicate it well.

Posted by: tasker at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (r2PLg)

97 If it is remotely true that WWII brought lots of new jobs to the United States, as did the space race, the China artificial building boom is the same thing, a true artificial stimulus. It hires folks in the construction business, and it spreads wealth all over China. Is it inflationary? Of course, but China is a country that has kept its currency weak for so long, and has a surplus account, that the jobs are better than the inflation is bad.

Most of the construction is so flimsy, although beautiful, that in ten years much of all this will be a tear down. But, during the next few decades, Chinese workers will have construction jobs, China will also be developing the best universities, and will have some real high tech muscle very soon. Maybe they will fill those cities after all?

Posted by: Keating Willcox at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (YZxuS)

98 92 In fact, I own some property,property I purchased at a recent foreclosure auction, that would make a perfect site for one of these new cities!
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren's Five Year Plan at August 01, 2012 02:47 PM (2TOuZ)

You Teutonic Twat, that's our sacred burial ground...

Posted by: Cherokee Nation at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (136wp)

99 "Unfortunately she is going to win in a walk."

I haven't seen even a poll that shows her in the lead.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (r4wIV)

100 Does anyone know who owns or is behind The Onion? The bastards are funny as hell. How are they making money?

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (3ZjAP)

101 we now have a solution to ows'rs needing a place to live.

or the cities really weren't built for people but to make realLIVE video games

Posted by: willow at August 01, 2012 02:49 PM (TomZ9)

102
1/32 Cherokee
31/32 Clueless

Posted by: WarrenHo: They didn't build that wall... at August 01, 2012 02:49 PM (HOOye)

103 Why is everyone convinced Warren is going to win? I personally think Brown will prevail.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 01, 2012 02:49 PM (l/N7H)

104 So one of the key speakers at the Democrat convention believes that we shouldignore all possible environmental standards, use political prisoners as slave labor, enforce a one child policy, perform unwanted abortions on women, shoot political prisoners in the head and then charge the family for the bullet and prepare to go to war with Japan and probably Russia? I mean, since we're going to be like China and all.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 01, 2012 02:49 PM (VtjlW)

105 100 Does anyone know who owns or is behind The Onion? The bastards are funny as hell. How are they making money?
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at August 01, 2012 02:48 PM (3ZjAP)

Shssh, last person who asked about that would up....

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 01, 2012 02:50 PM (136wp)

106 " Does anyone know who owns or is behind The Onion? The bastards are funny as hell."

They are kind of hit and miss. Sometimes they are just killing hilarious and a lot of the time they are "meh." It can't be easy writing political satire these days. The real events are so often ahead of you on the curve.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 02:51 PM (r4wIV)

107 Lizzy Warren should be running an arts and crafts store instead of spending other people's money. Her mind cognitive grasp of reality is almost childlike.

Posted by: Fritz at August 01, 2012 02:51 PM (RuVpG)

108 How about you continue your ongoing project to make the Massachusetts economy more like China? The other 56 states might learn something.

Posted by: SpongeBob Saget at August 01, 2012 02:51 PM (SDkq3)

109 Does sherealize that they got rid of all of the current political people when they had the revolution?

Posted by: harleycowboy at August 01, 2012 02:51 PM (wSTfB)

110 And time for another CFA update.
Took the three teenage boys up to the Timonium CFA in Baltimore.
Both Drive thru lanes backed up and into the main lane of traffic.
People eating under the trees sitting on the grass.
Staff greeting people at the door, and welcoming them with a "Thank you for supporting us".

I had the chance to talk to the marketing manager for about 3-4 minutes, and exchanged some thoughts and questions.
From that exchange, and interaction with several other people eating there......
It isn't about SSM.
Not one person asked, responded that it had to do with gays.
It is about civil rights, freedom of speech, and government overreaching.
It's about the thought police, and Mayors telling companies they have to think correct thoughts in order to not be run out of town.
There was a sense of silent but determined outrage.
People are pissed.

And the sammiches were delicious.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 01, 2012 02:51 PM (3aIoN)

111 alex, be fair, those hopes are only for certain people.

tea.

Posted by: willow at August 01, 2012 02:52 PM (TomZ9)

112 So another trillion + an additional trillion-point-five to balance the budget...we're talking another 1/6 of GDP swallowed up by the statists.

And that's not counting the virtual take-over of another 1/7 via ObamaCare...

Posted by: nickless at August 01, 2012 02:52 PM (MMC8r)

113 Warriors, come out to play-i-ay!

Posted by: Luther at August 01, 2012 02:52 PM (XvHmy)

114 My money is still on Warren being replaced as the D candidate before November.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 01, 2012 02:52 PM (TOk1P)

115 Gee, considering China only recognized private property rights starting in 2004, we certainly want to emulate those guys. Why didn't our founders think of that?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 01, 2012 02:52 PM (Qt4f7)

116 13
Unfortunately she is going to win in a walk.

The IQ of the Senate is going down, down down.


Don't worry, I'll take up the slack.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at August 01, 2012 02:52 PM (3ZjAP)

117 China is building ghost cities because it keeps the young men busy, and away from already populated areas. Think of it as crowd control.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 01, 2012 02:53 PM (GfHSl)

118 Oh god. I just heard that we have some anal warts in the neighborhood. Great. Just fuckin' great.

Posted by: Harry Reid's Dick at August 01, 2012 02:53 PM (IoNBC)

119
@103 "Why is everyone convinced Warren is going to win? I personally think Brown will prevail."

Why would you expect the majority of Masshole voters to, well, *not* be Massholes two elections in a row?

Posted by: Jaws at August 01, 2012 02:53 PM (4I3Uo)

120 "30
just can't handle the stupid of Elizabeth Warren anymore.
And she will probably be elected
Posted by: Velvet Ambition"

If she drives her lover off a bridge into the water, and runs off like a selfish coward leaving him/her to drown for 9 hours before reporting it, that should clinch the election for her. Massachusetts voters love that kind of shit.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 01, 2012 02:54 PM (hUGg0)

121

The Ghost Cities in China illustrate the same sort of thinking that Barky and Warren engage in....
Forced 'capitalism'.
Which isn't really capitalism at all.

Forcing the development of 'Green Energy' companies is a good example of this.
Billions of dollars poured into expensive green energy projects....have accomplished nothing, except wasting money.
Just like China's ghost cities.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 02:54 PM (mtRB0)

122
@104 Yeah, yeah, but look! All the purty roads and bridges and buildings and shopping centers and apartments and sports arenas.
They're pristine! Not like here in America where they would be infested with those dirty nasty people, doing business and spending money and making money. Yuck

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 01, 2012 02:54 PM (R/8dI)

123
So one of the key speakers at the Democrat convention believes that we
shouldignore all possible environmental standards, use political
prisoners as slave labor, enforce a one child policy, perform unwanted
abortions on women, shoot political prisoners in the head and then
charge the family for the bullet and prepare to go to war with Japan and
probably Russia? I mean, since we're going to be like China and all.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 01, 2012 02:49 PM (VtjlW)

Alex, honey, you are just being picky. Seriously, every time someone tries to sell the idea of a socialist or communist utopia, they have to try to sell it over the top of misery piled on top of misery. But, nuts like Lizzie who are PRO-abortion because of a woman's right to choose can find lots of room in her empty headspace for the Chinese women held down while her fetus is forcibly aborted.

Posted by: Will Assimilate For Chick-Fil-A at August 01, 2012 02:54 PM (kXoT0)

124 Uh an extra trillion in spending, too bad there's not a enough tax increases in the world to cover our deficits.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 01, 2012 02:55 PM (ZhEoC)

125 Thank you, willow.

The infrastructure in many parts of Europe is quite impressive. Nice train stations, high-speed rail, amazingly smooth roads, etc.

Yeah amazing what happens when everything gets bombed to hell and gone and has to be rebuilt brand new.

Posted by: alexthechick SMOD. Our only hope. at August 01, 2012 02:55 PM (VtjlW)

126 " the goat cities are in Iran, like an islamic Vegas - what happens in goat city, stays in goat city
Posted by: Jean"

What happens in the goat city stays in the goat city.

Posted by: Imam who came up with boobquakes and screwing dead wives at August 01, 2012 02:55 PM (hUGg0)

127 For a good time, North quadrant, block 32, building 71, floor 14, section E, suite 1409, room D7.

Posted by: Happy Ending Skeleton at August 01, 2012 02:55 PM (Qxdfp)

128 Quickly, lads! Surround the squeekhole! Once more, into the breach!

Posted by: Those anal warts at August 01, 2012 02:55 PM (Ky1+e)

129 More like China, where Lizzy Warren would have been
aborted because of her gender.

More like China, where they where surgical masks because of the air pollution, risk of disease.

More like China, where entire populations are forced to move by government edict in order to build the ghost cities, and high speed rail trains that are unable to run at high speed without massive failure.

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at August 01, 2012 02:56 PM (AEcBS)

130
Lizzy Warren should be running an arts and crafts store

Elizabeth Warren does kinda remind me of Ms. Lippy from Billy Madison.

Posted by: garrett at August 01, 2012 02:56 PM (2TOuZ)

131 Yes, its time to start the Long March to correct all these Social Injustices... for we must destroy Capitalism, in order to save it...

Posted by: Lizzy 'The Red' Warren at August 01, 2012 02:56 PM (lZBBB)

132 Yeah amazing what happens when everything gets bombed to hell and gone and has to be rebuilt brand new.
I wouldn't know.

Posted by: ground zero more than 10 years later at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (vDl/w)

133 I once worked for a DC company that had a locally, privately owned franchise in China. After a year of set-up and negotiating contracts on how this local Chinese business would interact with the parent LLC in DC, and 2 months before it was set to go "live", the Chinese government swooped in and "acquired" the local business (and all of its assets). We had to renegotiate everything (and it was one-sided, the government doesn't bother negotiating). Yeah, I TOTALLY want to implement this economic approach in the USA!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (Qt4f7)

134 Actually, in a just world, Lizzie would be doing arts and crafts therapy in a padded cell somewhere after being medicated to help here deal with her delusions of competence.

Posted by: Will Assimilate For Chick-Fil-A at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (kXoT0)

135 64
Here--read the hell away.



http://www.chinasmack.com/

Posted by: tasker at August 01, 2012 02:41 PM (r2PLg)

My mom never took me to a bath house, I had to find the way.

Posted by: Barney at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (3ZjAP)

136 More like China, because the first trillion dollars in the stimulus money hole was not enough.

Posted by: Live Free Or Die at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (AEcBS)

137 Sorry to go OT but does anyone knowwhy Steve King is supposedly supporting dogfighting? I always thought that was more of a Dem thing.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (YOZSv)

138 Lizzy Warren should be running an arts and crafts store

Shit, Lizzie. Enough with the god's eyes.


Posted by: Irritable "crafty" senior at August 01, 2012 02:59 PM (Ky1+e)

139 That dudes name is Nancy, heh

Posted by: Smelly Hippie at August 01, 2012 02:59 PM (HfQMH)

140 107
Lizzy Warren should be running an arts and crafts store instead of
spending other people's money. Her mind cognitive grasp of reality is
almost childlike.


This is how we Cherokee think. Racist!

Posted by: Injuin Elizabeth at August 01, 2012 03:00 PM (3ZjAP)

141 "Does anyone know who owns or is behind The Onion? The bastards are funny as hell. How are they making money?
Posted by: Billy Bob, "

The quality of their work is excellent. There was a video a few years ago of a congressman who had to bring his toddler to work because the nanny had the day off or something. It was hilarious and had great acting. Funnier than 98% of the comedy on tv.

Posted by: Imam who came up with boobquakes and screwing dead wives at August 01, 2012 03:00 PM (hUGg0)

142 Infrastructure? Anyone remember the Big Dig? Yeah, that turned out well

Posted by: AlaskaGal at August 01, 2012 03:01 PM (J8XHG)

143
OT but I'm betting a shitload of Chick-fil-a resturaunts have to close down early because they run out of food.

Some of the pictures on twitter are unreal.
Unfortunately they only have one franchise in MI and it's 65miles from me.

Posted by: Finn McCool at August 01, 2012 03:01 PM (R/8dI)

144 But all the beads they made by hand, are nowadays made in Japan. Japan, Lizzie. Not China!

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2012 03:01 PM (Ky1+e)

145 I think he did mean Goat City....give the Palestttttttinians a homeland....
Posted by: fu52 at August 01, 2012 02:40 PM (NYXC6)


--------------------------------------------------


You actually may be on to something here.

Posted by: Soona at August 01, 2012 03:02 PM (6fmMm)

146 Sorry to go OT but does anyone knowwhy Steve King is supposedly supporting dogfighting? I always thought that was more of a Dem thing.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (YOZSv)


Are you kidding? I'd pay good money to see Warren and Pelosi fight to the death!

Posted by: Not Me at August 01, 2012 03:03 PM (ggRof)

147
137Sorry to go OT but does anyone knowwhy Steve King is supposedly supporting dogfighting? I always thought that was more of a Dem thing.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 01, 2012 02:58 PM (YOZSv)

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Where is this coming from?
Has King actually said that he's in favor of dogfighting?
I can't imagine him being for something like that.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 03:03 PM (mtRB0)

148 Apparently Wendys just said that Chik-Fil-A doesn't serve gay people or something. Morgan Smith Goodwin hardest hit.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 03:03 PM (r4wIV)

149 I don't really care one way or another about dog fighting. I know it makes dog lovers feel awful but they're just animals. Cockfighting doesn't bother me much either. I wouldn't want to watch it but who cares really. Do people think they wouldn't fight or kill if left in the wild, or something?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 03:05 PM (r4wIV)

150 Injuin not happy. Nearest Chick Fil A is 5 miles from Cherokee, NC.

I make law to change that.

Posted by: Injuin Elizabeth at August 01, 2012 03:06 PM (3ZjAP)

151
143
OT but I'm betting a shitload of Chick-fil-a resturaunts have to close down early because they run out of food.

-----------

When I was at a Chick-Fil-A yesterday....I noticed a big truck in the back, off-loading a lot of supplies.
Hopefully they've stepped up their supply line.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 03:06 PM (mtRB0)

152 Uh an extra trillion in spending, too bad there's not a enough tax increases in the world to cover our deficits.
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at August 01, 2012 02:55 PM (ZhEoC)


----------------------------------------------------


It's the marxist way. Make the idea of money totally useless. Then all we do is work and toil 14 hours a day so that we can be rewarded with the smiles of our glorious leaders.

Posted by: Soona at August 01, 2012 03:07 PM (6fmMm)

153
Goat Cities....not.....Ghost Cities!
We need more Goat Cities.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 02:34 PM (mtRB0)



Did someone call for me?

Posted by: Goatse at August 01, 2012 03:07 PM (TIIx5)

154 This just in...

Fifty Shades of Grey: A Pantone guide for color correcting Harry Reid's crotch shots.

Posted by: Will Assimilate For Chick-Fil-A at August 01, 2012 03:08 PM (kXoT0)

155
"Does anyone know who owns or is behind The Onion? The bastards are funny as hell. How are they making money?

Posted by: Billy Bob, "

They make money from all the ads I don't see on their site because I have adblocker.

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2012 03:10 PM (Ky1+e)

156 I don't really care one way or another about dog fighting. I know it makes dog lovers feel awful but they're just animals. Cockfighting doesn't bother me much either. I wouldn't want to watch it but who cares really. Do people think they wouldn't fight or kill if left in the wild, or something?


--------------------------------------------


If you really think this way, then your as sick as Michael Vick. FOAD!

Posted by: Soona at August 01, 2012 03:10 PM (6fmMm)

157 Posted by: Goatse at August 01, 2012 03:07 PM (TIIx5)

Show some respect!

Posted by: Harry Reid's Dick at August 01, 2012 03:10 PM (IoNBC)

158
149I don't really care one way or another about dog fighting. I know it makes dog lovers feel awful but they're just animals. Cockfighting doesn't bother me much either. I wouldn't want to watch it but who cares really. Do people think they wouldn't fight or kill if left in the wild, or something?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 03:05 PM (r4wIV)

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'Fighting in the wild' is very different.
Very different.
Dog fighting envolves brutalizing the dogs....beating them...intentionally making them more fierce, than they would've been otherwise.

In the wild, the dog being attacked at least has the opportunity to run away.
In dogfighting.....the dogs are put into a pit....there is no hope of escape.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 03:12 PM (mtRB0)

159 Cockfighting is true art.

Posted by: Harry Reid's Dick at August 01, 2012 03:14 PM (IoNBC)

160 Apparently Wendys just said that Chik-Fil-A doesn't serve gay people or something. Morgan Smith Goodwin hardest hit.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor


Here's the rub..

Wendy's franchise owner puts "We support Ckick-Fil-A" on sign out front - for reals.
Later he takes it down.
Then Wendy's corporate Tweets that Wendy's serves gays.

Like Chick-Fil-A doesn't?

Walk back in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2012 03:14 PM (Ky1+e)

161 I wouldn't want to watch it
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Because if you did, you would change your mind.

Posted by: Dang at August 01, 2012 03:16 PM (Ky1+e)

162 Then Wendy's corporate Tweets that Wendy's serves gays.

Wendy's (which I used to love) was one of the first to screw their food up with non-trans-fat crap and the like. I used to live off of Wendy's triples back in the day ... Haven't been neat one in years, now. Their fires, which used to be great, turned to total shit.

Now that Wendy's wants to be known as the gay eatery ... no big surprise. Wendy's is shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 01, 2012 03:19 PM (X3lox)

163 You'll have to transpose a few letters in my above comment to decipher it. It's all about encoding thoughts, these days ... just like in China.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 01, 2012 03:22 PM (X3lox)

164 "Because if you did, you would change your mind."

But would that be objective truth or just a gut level emotive "awww" reaction? Because I prefer to make my decisions based on reason and fact, not emotion.
"'Fighting in the wild' is very different."

They don't end up mangled and dead?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 03:23 PM (r4wIV)

165 I am not feeling too good about this whole Chick Fil A thing.

A lot of my relatives are going to get fucked. I can feel it.

Posted by: The Chicken at August 01, 2012 03:23 PM (3ZjAP)

166 Now that Wendy's wants to be known as the gay eatery ... no big surprise. Wendy's is shit.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 01, 2012 03:19 PM (X3lox)

Dave Thomas is spinning in his grave... on a barbecue spit

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 01, 2012 03:29 PM (136wp)

167 But would that be objective truth or just a gut level emotive "awww" reaction? Because I prefer to make my decisions based on reason and fact, not emotion. "'Fighting in the wild' is very different." They don't end up mangled and dead?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 03:23 PM (r4wIV)

Are you for real or just pretending to be a clueless prick?

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at August 01, 2012 03:30 PM (YOZSv)

168 .....they should change the tag line to Fuk.Mor.Chikn....

Posted by: The Chicken at August 01, 2012 03:31 PM (NYXC6)

169
164...."'Fighting in the wild' is very different."


They don't end up mangled and dead?

Dogs are pack animals.
In the wild...they run in packs.
When a new dog encounters a pack....if he/she surrenders to the pack....he/she is accepted into the pack.

Sometimes...rarely...two packs will clash.
It usually comes down to a fight between the Aphas, the pack leaders.
In which case it can result in the eventual death of the loser....from infection from their wounds.
But more often, the smaller pack will just run away...when they see that the larger pack is a threat.

Posted by: wheatie at August 01, 2012 03:32 PM (mtRB0)

170 168....... BOHICA.....

Posted by: Fu52 at August 01, 2012 03:33 PM (NYXC6)

171 That poor couple thinking the government can save them - or would - and that dickshit academic worried that the slaves might revolt.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 01, 2012 03:40 PM (bxiXv)

172 Holy CRAP their economy is going to SKYROCKET.

I mean they've got all this INFRASTRUCTURE so the economic boom has to happen soon. Look at all the buildings, roads, and bridges... that is ALL you need for any economic success... right?

...

Oh, that's only true in the Warren/Obama "Cargo Cult" economic theory and not in reality? Whoopsie.

Posted by: gekkobear at August 01, 2012 03:42 PM (X0NX1)

173 Lizzie Warren. Chicom Values right down to her Moe Haircut.

Posted by: The Duke of East Dallas at August 01, 2012 03:42 PM (KHo8t)

174 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 01, 2012 04:03 PM (6o4Fb)

175 Maybe Lizzie can open a casino on her reservation to pay for it.

Posted by: dogfish at August 01, 2012 04:21 PM (N2yhW)

176 Spending stimulates the economy in a recession, ending up paying for itself many times over. Austerity in a recession makes it worse. These are proven facts.

Elizabeth Warren will hopefully end up the first female President. Which would be good for the country and bad for right wing ideology.

Admit it - the last thing you guys want is economic recovery right now, which would seal the deal for Obama. That's why you have to invent this fiction that Keynsian economics doesn't work, and so you push austerity, which makes the economy worse in the short term. If Romney wins, watch the military Keynsians run the show. That's because in a recession (or depression, if you want) government is the spender of last resort. These are facts.

President Elizabeth Warren. Get used to the idea. Your ideology will go the way of the dodo bird, because it's wrong. But dont despair - that will be good for the country. You're just going to have to change your minds. (Or flail hopelessly in the wind.)

Posted by: Lefty at August 01, 2012 04:32 PM (7/c8Q)

177 @162 "Their fires, which used to be great, turned to total shit."

Dude. Like, Biblical.

Posted by: comatus at August 01, 2012 04:39 PM (qaVK+)

178 #176 You must be a sock ...or a comedian. PRIVATE sector spending stimulates an economy you dope. If your premise were true, Obama would have had us all living like kings by now with all the debt spending he has done. Come back when you need more schooling.

Posted by: dogfish at August 01, 2012 05:13 PM (N2yhW)

179 41 I can't be a pederast. I prefer little girls! Now, that Harry Reid fellow, I hear that he is definitely an alledgedly convicted child molester. #HarryReidIsAPedarast

Heard it from a Bain investor.....don't know if it's true but there you have it.

Posted by: bverwey at August 01, 2012 05:16 PM (/qM3V)

180 "Spending stimulates the economy in a recession, ending up paying for itself many times over. Austerity in a recession makes it worse. These are proven facts."

Proven. Facts. Got it.

"It usually comes down to a fight between the Aphas, the pack leaders.
In which case it can result in the eventual death of the loser....from infection from their wounds."

Correct. Mangled or dead.

You guys seem to think I love the idea of dog fights. I just don't care one way or another. That dog isn't my family. That dog isn't human. Its a dog. I understand dog lovers really really love dogs and the idea of puppy getting killed like that makes you feel like someone killed your baby but its not. Its a dog.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 01, 2012 08:26 PM (r4wIV)

181 Hey! Maybe we can build electric cars that catch fire, and sell a bunch to affluent pyromaniacs. Oh, that's already been done. Shee-ite.

Posted by: Dirty Old Man at August 01, 2012 10:59 PM (96HSt)

182 Heinlein had a famous quote about how you could throw two Chinamen into a pit and they both would get rich selling rocks to each other.

That was meant as a compliment to their industriousness but somehow it got translated into the official economic policy of the PRC.

Warren and Obama see two guys in a pit and think that looks like a really good idea so the government should build a pit for everyone.

Posted by: Voluble at August 01, 2012 11:43 PM (qYvEa)

183 Ha! Look! FEMA-cities! I knew it!!

Posted by: Ronulan No 23 at August 02, 2012 01:09 AM (a2nka)






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